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Those of us who voted for Donald Trump in hopes that he would turn out to be the peace candidate are facing disappointment. He has increased the already bloated military budget by $54 billion and has appointed an outspokenly anti-Russian and anti-Iranian active duty general as his National Security Advisor. A retired general with pretty much the same views heads the Pentagon. President Trump meanwhile vows to “extinguish” ISIS without presenting any plan regarding how exactly that might be accomplished.

The most important objective of all, resetting with Moscow to avoid World War 3, is in reverse gear, with the appointment of Fiona Hill, a critic of Vladimir Putin, as Russian specialist at the National Security Council. Meanwhile, our clueless United Nations Ambassador calls for Russia to withdraw from Crimea, where 58% of the population is Russian and only 24% is Ukrainian. Reports circulating in Washington suggest that the one phone call between Trump and Putin was a disaster, with the U.S. president demanding an end to the New START nuclear weapons reduction treaty, which the Kremlin wants to renew, before going off on a tangential monologue about his unexpected electoral victory.

In fact, even though the individual neocons have largely been outed from the foreign and security policy positions they once dominated it would not be completely inappropriate to suggest that their legacy of military interventionism lives on in terms of what the Trump administration has been so far promoting to keep America “safe.” Where all of this will go is anyone’s guess.

But if there is one constant in all of this it is the bright shining beacon of Israel, with Trump recently enthusing over the “unbreakable” bond between the two countries. One hopes that he misspoke and really meant “unbearable” or even “unspeakable” but it is clear from other indications that The Donald has succumbed to the inevitable Washington groupthink regarding America’s greatest ally and best friend in the whole wide world.

On Sunday New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss “trade and security issues” without anyone complaining that he was in violation of the Logan Act, which apparently only applies if you are talking to Russians. And a congressional delegation is in Israel right now studying the feasibility of moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, which most foreign policy pundits consider to be a very bad idea. Meanwhile at the United Nations, the U.S. has blocked the appointment of former Palestinian prime minister Salam Fayyad as special representative to Libya. U.S. Ambassador Nikki Haley explained the veto, saying irrelevantly “For too long the U.N. has been unfairly biased in favor of the Palestinian Authority to the detriment of our allies in Israel. The United States does not currently recognize a Palestinian state or support the signal this appointment would send within the United Nations.”

Ambassador Haley has also denounced the international body in general terms, stating that she was “underscore[ing] the ironclad support of the United States for Israel,” adding that “I am here to emphasize that United States is determined to stand up to the U.N.’s anti-Israel bias.” And if anyone failed to understand, on March 1st, U.S. envoy to the U.N. Human Rights Council in Geneva Erin Barclay told the group that it must drop its “obsession with Israel” or risk Washington withdrawing from the organization. The suggestion that the U.S. might consider departing came, incidentally, directly from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who proposed such action to Donald Trump to “delegitimize” the U.N. body.

It is ironic that in the midst of a media and congressional feeding frenzy on foreign interference in the U.S., the one country in the world that consistently leads Washington by the nose is immune from criticism. The subservient role dutifully played by every U.S. president since JFK when dealing with Tel Aviv has resulted in defining United States national interests in terms of Israeli perceptions. The real irony is that even though Trump is giving the Israelis everything they want and is bowing to the Israel Lobby and Jewish groups at every opportunity, it is still not enough. It is never enough. That is because the neoconservatives, who are mostly Jewish and themselves complete Israel-firsters, hate him, having overwhelmingly favored Hillary Clinton as president due to their conviction that she would be the more aggressive president. They now believe that if they succeed in forcing Trump’s resignation or impeachment they will return to power in whatever new government formulation is put in place, so they continue to pile on.

Israel’s friends characteristically either run or have the ear of the media and they are supported by a formidable Washington based lobbying machine to get their point across. Whenever anything happens in the Middle East or elsewhere that is related to Israel’s perceived interests the machine goes to work with multiple position papers presented to every congressional office the next morning by runners from AIPAC, AEI, FPI, WINEP, JINSA and FDD. No one else has the clout of the Israel Lobby.

And Trump is also being battered by Jewish interests coming from the political left. France’s greatest living poseur-hypocrite Bernard-Henri Levy, described as a “philosopher, filmmaker and activist,” has hammered Trump twice recently, first in The New York Times on January 19th. Levy, who has described the brutal Israel Defense Forces as “a democratic army, which asks itself so many moral questions” and who was a war-on-Libya cheerleader, warns that Trump is a threat to all American Jews. Why? Because even though he has showered benefits on Israel his love for the Jewish people is “insufficient.” Levy explains, “This love is precisely what is required of an American president in dealings affecting Israel.”

The reader might well be astonished by the chutzpah of Levy in demanding love on top of the $38 billion already in the pipeline and wonder even more why The New York Times would print such garbage. But the French whiz kid does not really explain his remark, instead going on to denounce the “betrayal” of Israel by President Barack Obama at the United Nations before explaining that as Trump is “deeply unpopular” it would not do for American Jews to embrace him closely even if it appears he is doing good things for Israel. And Levy provides “evidence” that Trump might not be what he seems, citing inter alia his speech before the Republican Jewish Coalition in which he said he didn’t need their money. Levy sees this as a precursor to genuine, full blooded anti-Semitism, and speculates that Trump will take revenge against Jews to show “that he is indeed smarter than they are.” Why would he do that? Because he “respects only power, money and the perquisites of the palace.”

Levy’s second foray, on CNN a month later, took Trump to task for his “incredible slip” on January 27th, Holocaust Remembrance Day, when he did not single out Jewish victims of Nazi crimes and instead cited all of those exterminated by the Germans. For Levy, Jewish deaths are intrinsically more memorable and valuable than those of others and the failure to grant them special status is a “tell-tale trope of Holocaust deniers” and a “hallmark of the new anti-Semitism.”

Bernard-Henri goes on to cite more evidence of Trump’s closet anti-Semitism, including the assertion that he has failed to address the reality of “Jewish children who go to school full of fear.” While it is possible to dismiss Levy as a completely self-serving bullshit artist who badly needs a haircut and a bath, he is far from alone. Also on the left there is the renowned Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard University.

Dershowitz, threatening to leave the Democratic Party if it elected Keith Ellison chair of the party’s central committee, appeared frequently on television and in the print media claiming that Ellison was an enemy of Israel and of the Jewish people. The threat to leave the Democrats produced numerous jokes directed at the abrasive and unpopular lawyer somewhat akin to those crafted at the expense of the Hollywood celebrities who promised to leave the country if Donald Trump were elected president. Unfortunately, I have to note that neither Dershowitz nor Barbra Streisand has yet departed.

Ellison was the preferred candidate of the Bernie Sanders liberal wing of the party and initial opinion polls suggested that he would likely win the position. While Dershowitz’s bombast could be regarded with some amusement, there was another, darker side to the campaign to sideline Ellison, who is black, a Muslim and not openly hostile to the Palestinians. This last attribute inevitably made it possible to start a whispering campaign labeling him as anti-Semitic and a number of Jewish Democratic fundraisers, to include Israeli Haim Saban of Hillary Clinton fame, privately made it known that they would end their donations to the party if Ellison were elected. Barack Obama and the Clintons also piled on, even working the phones to stop Ellison.

When Ellison lost in a close result, Dershowitz announced that he would not be leaving the party after all because the result was a “victory in the war against bigotry, anti-Semitism, [and] the anti-Israel push of the hard left within the Democratic Party.” As evidence of Ellison’s anti-Israel sentiment Dershowitz cited the congressman’s vote against funding Iron Dome, which is the Israel missile defense system. “Can you imagine any reasonable person voting against a missile system designed to protect innocent civilians against terrorist rocket attacks?”

Indeed Dersh, but maybe the Israelis should be paying for it, not the American taxpayer, which is actually the crux of the matter. I for one am tired of the perpetual whining of Alan Dershowitz and international professional Jews like Bernard-Henri Levy, who is frequently in the U.S. doing richly rewarded speaking tours on the so-called “Synagogue circuit.” And someone should wake U.N Ambassador Nikki Haley up to the fact that her job is to take care of the American people, not Israel. Quite frankly, if these folks are so much in love with Israel they should go live there and leave the rest of us as well as the U.S. Treasury alone.

If we are heading into yet another round of Israel-centric foreign policy we will be inevitably involved in new wars, starting with Iran which has always been Netanyahu’s enemy of choice. And then there is Syria, where the Israelis would prefer a continuation of chaos, presumably carried out by Washington which can pay the bills and take the casualties. As Bernard-Henri Levy has made clear and the Talmud asserts, Jewish lives are more important than those of gentiles, so it is fit and proper that Americans should fight and die to make sure that Israel might prosper.

 
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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “President Trump meanwhile vows to “extinguish” ISIS without presenting any plan regarding how exactly that might be accomplished.”

    It’s easy. Do NOTHING, and ISIS will eventually crumble.

    ISIS and Jihadis spread all over because US and its proxies aided them.

    End the support, and ISIS will eventually fail.

    • Replies: @Ace
  2. Mark Green says: • Website

    Is there any country or collection of people in the world more self-centered than God’s Chosen ones? Not that I can think of. Their ethnocentrism is off the charts. In his diaries, Truman called them “very, very selfish”, which may turn out to be an understatement.

    What’s worse, their modern ability to steer political events and mold public perception is greater than ever. This is a recipe for disaster.

    Israel’s moral particularism is also bursting with mind-numbing, double-standards. Equal Treatment Under Law? Not so fast. These aggrieved and endangered darlings are special and they demand to be treated accordingly. So stop ‘obsessing’ over Israel. It’s anti-Semitic!

    Like the moribund ‘peace process’ itself, the rule of law–when it comes to Israel–is just theatrical background noise. After all, when you’re facing an existential threat each and every day, anything goes! Rules must be broken. It’s life or death. What’s most important is maintaining Israeli security and the eradicating the scourge of ‘anti-Semitism’. Onward! More financial aid to Israel. And weapons, too. We’ve only just begun.

    This kosher value system now permeates America’s governing establishment (deep state). It’s multi-faceted influence (money, media, law, education) has corrupted US policies since WWI. Even Trump is now under its thrall.

    The US is slowly going bonkers. And Israel’s rising influence is a prime reason why. Understanding Washington’s maniacal, hypocritical, and ruthless operations cannot be comprehended without examining the vast and deep corridors of American power occupied by crypto-Israelis. These agents of influence have more than a little to say about who’s praised, who gets the money, who gets nominated, who gets pushed aside, and who gets bombed. So enjoy this unhappy circus while it lasts. Our hollow center will not long last.

  3. HBM says:

    Phil goes hard in the paint.

    I still hold out hope that Trump knows all too well who exactly he is dealing with, and still isn’t afraid to play hardball even while sending all the right (and, as Phil says, never enough) kosher signals.

    Trump understands that he can’t play fair with them (or naively assume that since what he’s doing is just that that means success is inevitable) — I feel pretty certain of that, but I do wonder if Trump believes he can in some sense fix the Jews if only he’s firm and vigilant enough.

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    , @geokat62
    , @druid
  4. They claim to “heal the world”. Always assume the opposite of what a jew tells you.

  5. Glad you mentioned The Talmud.

    The Talmud makes The Protocols of Zion read like light-hearted pro-Jewish propaganda.

    Here’s the big thing ordinary Jews, who support the ‘project’ but know nothing about The Talmud, should know.

    JUDAISM IS A SUPREMACIST POLITICAL PROJECT POSING AS A RELIGION.

    So enough of Cultural Marxism and all that phoney “equality”, “liberalism”, “multiculturalism” and “anti-racism”!
    This method for hijacking man’s moral sensibilities is a Judaic creation and a Satanic ruse designed to ensnare mankind under a centralised tyranny. The Protocols and The Talmud speak of one-world government under a “Jewish King”. So-called Liberal Jews are mostly unaware and blind to this stuff.
    Understand this.

    THEY MEAN IT.

    • Replies: @druid
  6. Donald Trump was always on Netanyahu’s side. I don’t see how anyone could see otherwise. He went on Israeli TV to campaign for the man. He actually has been more moderate towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than I expected he would be. He surprised me in a positive way by bringing up Israeli settlements. He has sounded like a typical American president begging Israel to behave and doing nothing to make Israel behave. Haley was a bad appointment but her reasoning on Israel is what I always expected from Trump.

    Hillary offered us war with Russia with her no fly zone. How much would Obama’s signature foreign policy victory (the Iran deal) would have tied her hands I do not know. She showed a great deal of interest towards Russia. I do know that Trump always showed himself as a typical Republican on Iran. He campaigned for Netanyahu. The Israelis think he is on their settler’s state side. What I saw as the choice on November 8, 2016 was between near certain war with Russia and a likely war with Iran. I chose the latter. I was hoping he would stick it to the Saudis and Qataris. He supposed to make the Saudis pay us. They could start with the cost of the war on terror. Most of US will survive the coming bankruptcy if the very likely war with Iran happens. Nuclear weapons on the other hand are actually a serious threat compared to whatever Iran could conjure up.

    After our Empire has grown hungry for a fight with a nuclear power in order to protect Al Qaeda and Neo-Nazis who overthrew their democratically elected government I’m starting to think maybe bankruptcy wouldn’t be such a bad thing for the US when the alternative is a nuclear holocaust. I don’t know if the US political class has a death wish or something but a mass nuclear suicide isn’t how I wanna leave this world.

    I could imagine the grand bargain with the Russians would have them keep Crimea, end sanctions, calm things down in Europe, and the Israel-Saudi axis get their American benefactor into a quagmire in Iran on their behalf. Do the Israelis care about Russia beyond it getting in their way in the Middle East? I think the Neocons believe that there has to be an Empire because nature abhors a vacuum. They support Israel but they like to style themselves as the philosopher king’s (Sophist) of the American Empire. Trump has promised to be America first, but right behind Israel. They dislike the fact that Trump isn’t in everyone’s business and that he fired them from government. His pro-American nationalism (outside his Israeli-Saudi subservience) grates on them. They despise his more realist version of the American Empire. Where he recognizes spheres of influence the Neocons see land yet to be conquered and they don’t care about the consequences. What I don’t get is why isn’t Israel giving their agents in the US their marching orders to support Trump since President Trump may very well be the most pro-Israel president ever. For Bush it was for faith. For Trump its friendship and family.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @tjm
    , @tjm
  7. Randal says:

    Those of us who voted for Donald Trump in hopes that he would turn out to be the peace candidate are facing disappointment.

    Probably so, but not all that surprising. There’s still the comfort of knowing that a President Clinton would have been ten times worse, and the pleasure of seeing the ongoing hysterical self-discrediting of the left and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself).

    The latter extends of course also to the pro-Israel-hysterics, antisemitism witch-finders and jewish nationalist zealots, who as described are overplaying their hand dramatically and will lose credibility accordingly, especially on the right (insofar, at least, as it’s possible to meaningfully lose credibility in US sphere politics when your backers are absurdly wealthy and influential).

    The response to Trump has imo opened a lot of eyes in the US, and in the wider US sphere, about the real nature of those in positions of power and influence.

    As far as Russia is concerned, it has been an eye-opener even for an old cynic such as me, regarding just how widespread and how deep the irrational elite hostility to Russia goes in the US sphere, and the lengths to which they are prepare to go to protect the policy of hostile confrontation. Dreams of a “grand bargain” were always just that – pipedreams, but it was reasonable to hope that Trump could at least find enough staffers at the top level to run US foreign policy rationally. But it appears not, and the gratuitous forcing of Russia and China to veto yet another troublemaking UNSC resolution just last week suggests that the crazies are still making US foreign policy.

    The Russians will have been watching and will I think have drawn the appropriate conclusions – that (for those amongst the Russian elite who might still have dreamed of it) honest cooperation with the US on any basis beyond specific and watchfully enacted tactical deals will not be possible for a generation at least. Certainly events like last week’s UNSC veto should remind Russia that their alignment with China and with Iran must be regarded as an absolutely necessary protection against inevitable US hostility and aggression.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  8. Seraphim says:

    BHL (who shows the ravages of ageing of his face and not only on his mind) illustrates again what the real problem of Jews is. They are afflicted by a psychological disorder called ‘Excessive attention seeking disorder’. Psychologists have determined that excessive attention seeking is not a character flaw, but a brain wiring response to early developmental trauma caused by neglect (in their case the secret fear that they are not really the ‘chosen ones’). Extreme attention seekers often go to unhealthy lengths that are driven by emotional desperation. They need to be permanently reassured that they are indeed the ‘chosen’, that God has not abandoned them.
    A mechanism to ease the anxiety of wanting more attention than you are getting is drama. The attention seeker would make a big fuss of his misery, sufferance, humiliation, unfair treatment, etc.
    Psychologists found out also that drama causes the pituitary gland and hypothalamus to secrete endorphins, which are the pain-suppressing and pleasure-inducing compounds and people can easily become addicted to drama. Like in any addiction, one builds up a tolerance that continuously requires stronger drugs to get the same effect. So, drama becomes more intense, one needs more and more crises to get the same thrill.
    Another interesting finding was that using drama as a drug feels good so it is rewarding. Reward uses dopamine, which works by releasing more dopamine on anticipating getting the reward. They develop what Gilad Atzmon called Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

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    , @Alden
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  9. Hey Phil, you could have mentioned it was Lévy, the initial cheerleader and behind the lobby for bringing the Americans onboard, was perhaps THE key figure behind what became the NATO overthrow of Gaddafi’s Libya.

    In any case, I expect this lampoon of Lévy is an apt description of his putrid character:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/14/the-great-bernard-henry-levy/

    ^ Enjoy!

  10. This is a fantastic article.

    I predict the job of “Israel-cheerleader”commenters, for one example Sam Shama, will be to knock Mr. Giraldi’s article off-point/topic.

    Thanks Mr. G. for giving American citizens a turn to speak (in concert) now without excess fear of Israeli retribution.

    • Replies: @iffen
  11. @Ronald Thomas West

    Ronald – I did mention it but you are quite right that he was actually a leading figure in Europe pushing for intervention – it fits in with his belief that Arab countries are okay only when we change their governments to fit in with his worldview

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  12. The real irony is that even though Trump is giving the Israelis everything they want and is bowing to the Israel Lobby and Jewish groups at every opportunity, it is still not enough.

    While it may be irony, it certainly is consistency.

    Appeasement, anyone!??

  13. @Seraphim

    They develop what Gilad Atzmon called Pre-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

    Purported Trauma Stress Disorder too.

  14. “even though he [Trump] has showered benefits on Israel his love for the Jewish people is “insufficient.”
    I read this & at first I thought I was going insane…& then reality reasserted itself & I knew who really IS insane.
    Trump shows “insufficient” “love” for this FORIEGN nation ? “LOVE” ???
    Strictly speaking this is not an Israel issue: it would be horrendous that the leaders of ANY sovereign nation kow towed to ANY other nation, so OBVIOUSLY against it’s own self interest.
    I don’t really like to say this, ( I am not a US citizen) but I actually feel sorry for average US citizens: that they must suffer both the shame of their nation being treated with such disdain, such sickening arrogance by a piddly little nation AND have to suffer watching their own elites LICKING UP such arrogance & disdain
    with such obvious relish.
    Almost makes you wish you WERE insane.
    ( remember always, 1967, & the the USS Liberty)

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Seraphim
  15. @HBM

    It’s said it’s easier to imagine the end of the world rather than the end of capitalism.
    Well, I will add to that: it’s easier to imagine the end of capitalism AND the world, before the end of Israel’s domination of the US & much of the West.

  16. geokat62 says:

    Phil, did I ever mention that I love you? One of your best. If more patriotic American journalists were to muster even a fraction of your courage to write what you bravely write, the prospects for wilting the night flower would be much brighter.

    To that end, here is a comment I’ve drafted that I intend to post on Justin Raimondo’s (of antiwar.com) next column:

    While Justin spouts his predictable commentary about irrelevant issues related to domestic and foreign policy, there are other, admittedly few, respected commentators out there, like Phil Giraldi, who are courageous enough to tackle head on the number one issue that is menacing the American people:

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/cheerleading-for-israel/

    I used to look forward to reading Justin’s provocative column’s a few years back, but I no longer do so because of his unfortunate reluctance to draw attention to the elephant in the room.

    Need proof? Here’s the concluding paragraph of the article I linked to:

    If we are heading into yet another round of Israel-centric foreign policy we will be inevitably involved in new wars, starting with Iran which has always been Netanyahu’s enemy of choice. And then there is Syria, where the Israelis would prefer a continuation of chaos, presumably carried out by Washington which can pay the bills and take the casualties. As Bernard-Henri Levy has made clear and the Talmud asserts, Jewish lives are more important than those of gentiles, so it is fit and proper that Americans should fight and die to make sure that Israel might prosper.

    Could any of Justin’s faithful readers even imagine Justin writing something like this? Needless to say, that was a rhetorical question.

    P.S. I’d like to give a special shout out to the publisher of this webzine, Ron Unz, and thank him for giving Phil a platform to get his important message out to the American people.

  17. geokat62 says:
    @HBM

    Phil goes hard in the paint.

    Damn right! And to think a commenter awhile back had the temerity of accusing Phil of pulling his punches.

  18. @geokat62

    I share your distaste for the arrogant little _hit. Years ago I quit donating to Antiwar.com as a result of a couple of snotty-hostile comments via e-mail that I got from that piece of work.

    He’s way too long winded, too, which comes as no surprise. Typical mouthy, blowhard, narcissist.

    • Replies: @Ace of Hearts
  19. LondonBob says:

    Too soon to say, it is noticeable that Netanyahu feels the need to do his buddy routine with Trump, like he has to with Putin, rather than his preferred show of contempt that he reserved for Obama, confident in his knowledge that there would be no consequences. Whatever the rhetoric a more realist foreign policy is an anathema for the Israelis, the fear and loathing remains palpable.

    At the end of the day my hope with Trump is he wouldn’t start any daft new wars or regime changes etc. So far Syria looks promising. Listening to the more sensible voice in the US military would be an improvement on listening to the neocons.

    Anyway one must always remember that JFK’s big mistake was taking on too many special interests at once, don’t fight too many battles at once.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @tjm
  20. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website

    Fiona Hill, a critic of Vladimir Putin, as Russian specialist at the National Security Council

    At present moment “Russian” and “specialist” pretty much on any level of US academe and government, with some very rare exceptions, is an oxymoron.

  21. Agent76 says:

    Nov 15, 2016 Did you vote to #DrainTheSwamp? Take the #TrumpPledge?

    Do you have the sinking feeling that Trump may start backing off his promises now that he’s in power. Is there the niggling doubt that the banksters, criminals and party insiders he’s surrounding himself with may not follow through on that draining of the swamp? Never fear!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  22. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    Damn, geo, I didn’t know that you were an ambidextrous multitasker.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  23. iffen says:

    starting with Iran which has always been Netanyahu’s enemy of choice.

    If this is true and if it is also true that the Israelis run the foreign policy of the US, why did we invade Iraq and not Iran?

  24. Pull the string on Derschowitz more Phil. You nearly have it. He defended Epstein in court. Epstein ran the videotaped paedophile rings on love island to entrap politicians for Mossad. Franklin Nebraska and the ring around Ted Heath were also Zion.

    The CIA is Zion’s secret police in the USA. No different to the Gestapo.

    Zion’s is a high IQ, low empathy gamma male race of man whose abilities have been documented by all races and civilisations of man for near 3000 years. They are the only nomadic barbarian race of man to have developed high IQ under unique evolutionary pressures.

    You’re getting very close now. I suspect you know the truth already: The left and right aren’t the political story. The real story is gentiles and the struggle for freedom against the shadow rulers of the West – Zion.

    This explains the neoconservative consensus of the establishmenet – social liberalism, economic conservatism and aggressive wars against Zion’s non puppets and lebensraum in the Middle East all across the Western World.

    The world will rumble. In the end, the curtain will be pulled back to reveal the same ‘stereotype’ our ancestors have caricatured for 500 years and who convinced us they were being ‘race-ist’, the cunning Jewish ‘chosen ones’.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Druid
  25. MEexpert says:

    The great political minds of the Americans let others do their thinking. Israel wants to maintain its super power status in the Middle East. It does not want any rivals. Hence, any hint that Iran might be her opponent in this area, Israel is trying very hard to destroy Iran but without losing any Jewish blood or Money. Now Saudi Arabia has joined in to protect their murderous regime.

    Trump, who campaigned on ending the endless wars in the Middle East has bought into the Israeli/neocon propaganda and has gone in with his head first. All through his campaign , he maintained that he will let Russians clean out ISIS in Syria. Now he wants to set up Hillary’s “Safe Zones” in Syria, setting up a conflict with the Russians.

    Similarly, the US has absolutely no business in Yemen. If Saudi Arabia wants war with Yemen, let them fight it out. US does not have unlimited sources to run around and fight everyone’s war. Houthis are no proxies of Iran but we and the Saudis are bombing the heck out of them on that basis. There is absolutely no proof that Iran has any involvement in Yemen. We have forgotten the real enemy, the Al-Qaeda, and are concentrating in doing our part in creating femine in Yemen. Mean while, Al-Qaeda is coming back and flourishing in Yemen. ISIS, which we swore to destroy, is popping up in every other place in the world while we concetrate against Iran to please Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    It has come to the point that if any country wants our help, all she has to do is shout Iran and we will come rushing in with boots and planes.

  26. iffen says:

    the curtain will be pulled back to reveal

    Dorothy never said anything about the Wizard being Jewish.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
    , @Anonymous
  27. Ram says:

    Cheerleading for Israel is a national disease, that has reached pandemic proportions in the US.

  28. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    knock Mr. Giraldi’s article off-point/topic

    No real need for this woodchuck.

    One thousandth iteration of dem Jews are up to no good in US politics, and zero practical suggestions about what can be done about it. If there was a presentation of a coherent plan for influencing the political process in order to change said corrupt influence, a plan that showed any promise of success, one could assume that those opposed to any changes would show up.

    We’ll see if any defenders of the faith show up.

  29. What can one say other than that pandering politicians are shameless? It’s too bad that putting the interests of Americans first (including ordinary Jewish Americans) is denounced as antisemitic. But if I am not for myself, then who? And if not now, when?

  30. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @geokat62

    I gave up on Antiwar.com years ago after I discovered that while Raimondo is purported to be a critic of Israel and America’s foreign policy, his real enemies are some of Israel’s most effective critics: people like Gilad Atzmon and Unz.com”s very own Israel Shamir. Even the mere mention of either of these two men’s names in the comments section of the Antiwar.com’s website would get the post immediately censored and often the poster outright banned.

    I have personally observed Raimondo become absolutely enraged and left sputtering and momentarily unable to speak when the mere mention Gilad Atzmon’s name was made by someone in the audience during one of Raimondo’s public appearances. It was truly bizarre to watch this behavior.

    Has anyone noticed that the links on the Antiwar.com website now lead invariably to articles posted on the New York Times or AP or Reuters sites? These are very strange choices indeed for a website that is supposedly libertarian. Few alternative sites are ever mentioned. Articles by my personal hero Paul Craig Roberts, for instance, vanished from Antiwar.com way back in 2009 ( if memory serves me correctly).

    The Antiwar.com website is overseen day to day by long time Raimondo chum Eric Garris. I have heard that Garris loves to brag about his having been brought up by his fellow traveling mother as a “red diaper” baby. He must feel that mentioning this proves his bona fides to select people and makes him less susceptible to criticism by them. Considering the absolute immensity of Communist crimes isn’t this about the same as bragging about having a parent who looked favorably on mass murder.

    • Replies: @tjm
  31. tjm says:
    @Mark Green

    Very well said.

    The disconnect between America and the US gov is becoming increasingly obvious, THUS the increased use of distraction to try and hype it, or at least not talk about it.

    As you say, they control money, media, law, education, and not to forget entertainment. And in each of these areas they corrupt, condition and sicken the American people.

    Americans, or westerners in general just don’t get how pervasive the problem is, how interrelated and how interconnected the Zionist Jewish tribe is within the system.

    I believe they truly hate us, all the while so many white fools are so devoted protecting the tribe, so conditioned they have been.

    • Replies: @Druid
  32. annamaria says:
    @Mark Green

    The article nicely reviews the roots of “anti-semitism.”
    Greed, hate, arrogance, dishonesty, bloody warmongering – in short, the Lobby is the embodiment of the banality of evil.
    As a side note, neither the half-wit Bernard-Henri Levy (he desperately wants to be recognized as a brilliant thinker, to no avail, since his thinking machine has small capacity), nor Dershowitz and others that populate Anti-Defamation League and the Lobby, have any problem with the rise of neo-Nazism in Ukraine thanks to the ziocons policies there. The Israel-firsters today have a spectacular task of performing a contortionist trick by demanding a world-wide sympathy for the special victimhood (the sympathy must have certain denomination and amount) – hence the incessant squealing “holocaust, holocaust!!!!” – but at the same time the Israel-firsters must accept wholeheartedly the murderous progeny of the Nazis in eastern Europe. The acceptance of neo-Nazists, as well as Israel’s support for the useful jihadis in Syria, is an integral part of ziocons’ grandiose plans.
    That is indeed an interesting zioconic attempt at reconciliation the support for neo-Nazism with Holocaust victimhood. Let the Lobby (and other Friends of Israel) talk more.

  33. geokat62 says:
    @iffen

    Damn, geo, I didn’t know that you were an ambidextrous multitasker.

    There’s a lot you don’t know about me.

    btw – you get full marks for euphemism of the year.

  34. geokat62 says:
    @iffen

    If this is true and if it is also true that the Israelis run the foreign policy of the US, why did we invade Iraq and not Iran?

    Look at a map of the ME and tell me which large country is currently surrounded by foreign troops? I’ll give you a clue: bomb, bomb, bomb… bomb, bomb —-.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  35. tjm says:
    @iffen

    You seem to think the two are mutually exclusive.

    Where you asleep when B. Netanyahu went before the US Congress to demand we attack Iraq?

    The Zio machine is not single minded, they have many enemies, just give them time and they will get to you.

  36. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    Interesting…I did not know this

    Nikki Haley was born Nimrata Randhawa in Bamberg, South Carolina, on January 20, 1972, to an Indian Sikh family. She was “always called Nikki, which means ‘little one,’ by her family.” Her parents, father Ajit Singh Randhawa and mother Raj Kaur Randhawa, are immigrants from Amritsar District, Punjab, India.

  37. annamaria says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    There was a previous suggestion that the current mess in DC reflects a fight between two competing subgroups of the oligarchy. A charitable comment would be that one of the subgroups, by having a better understanding of the outcome of a nuclear crisis, is more sane than the other. But then there are also weapon manufacturers and the whole parasitic class of contractors and subcontractors…. Depressing.

  38. I do deeply resent calling Levy a philosopher.
    He is nothing but propagandist,
    Not much matters anymore.
    US military adventurism is standing in front of a brick wall now.
    Natanyahu wants US to invade Iran.
    It is a no go. it is not going to happen.
    If US bites into Iran, it will end up toothless.

    • Replies: @Ace
    , @Cortes
  39. annamaria says:
    @Randal

    “There’s still the comfort of knowing that a President Clinton would have been ten times worse, and the pleasure of seeing the ongoing hysterical self-discrediting of the left and the mainstream media….The latter extends of course also to the pro-Israel-hysterics… The response to Trump has imo opened a lot of eyes in the US, and in the wider US sphere, about the real nature of those in positions of power and influence.”
    Thank you for the great outline.

  40. annamaria says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Bernard-Henri Levy is a farcical figure unable to comprehend his very obvious limitations: https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/14/the-great-bernard-henry-levy/

  41. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The spineless impulse in some of you to align your Americanism with Zionism ignores the realities of Israeli transgressions against our nation. Whether it be wars and American bloodshed for Israel or the intimidation, corruption and erosion of our political system by Israel’s special interest groups and the current attack against freedom of speech, not to mention, so much more not yet uncovered, for all this to be ignored by some “whites” simply because of your wet dreams of a white supremacist ethnostate like Israel is fucken pathetic. Most of you sided with your pimp hero “Bibi” even when he showed no respect for our President simply because of your fickle minded hatred of “Obummer” the muzzie lol. Guess what, dont wonder why these Israelis laugh at the stupidity of Americans who keep paying them and fighting their wars, who wouldn’t take advantage. And btw, there are a million reasons to hate Obama but when Bibi pulled his bullshit, seeing Americans on so many different forums talk that Bibi the hero bullshit made me wanna gag

  42. annamaria says:
    @LondonBob

    “So far Syria looks promising…”
    Hopefully the (former) Soviet Jews in Israel put some sorely lacking wisdom into Bibi’s head re playing games with Russian federation.

  43. annamaria says:
    @Tha Philosopher

    here are the links: http://yournewswire.com/video-bill-clinton-on-paedophile-island/
    “Flight logs reveal the many trips Bill Clinton and Alan Dershowitz took on pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet with anonymous women”
    http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/13/will-the-jeffrey-epstein-pedophile-case-snare-clinton/
    “Democrat mega donor and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was tied by Palm Beach Police to as many as 40 underaged girls and allegedly provided minor girls to Prince Andrew and lawyer Alan Dershowitz, among others”

    • Replies: @Ivy
  44. tjm says:
    @Anon

    It is amazing how we can know any truth, considering how much control these forces have over our information.

    Certainly some areas are obvious, the MSM, CNN, NPR and alike, then industries like Wall Street and banking, then perhaps obvious Congress and the President. Then that it gets more subtle, the education system, Hollywood movies, and Music. But there are areas even more deceptive sites that play like they are “progressive” are in fact “controlled opposition”, like “InfoWars (who remain “neutral on Israel”), and perhaps the site you mentioned.

    What is also quite manipulative is the use of paid bloggers who comment on web sites, giving the impression of wide spread support for something, that is actually just paid for.

  45. Sherman says:

    I have my issues with Trump – primarily his proposed economic policies.

    But I applaud his pro-Israel stance.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Druid
    , @iffen
  46. tjm says:
    @iffen

    The first goal of eliminating the corrective influence of Zionism in the US, if first pointing out it’s existence.

    There is no such thing as too much information on this topic. While the powers of deceit and deception have worked hard to hide their activities, the truth is slowly leaking out, which is when the “tribe” gets most dangerous…

    • Replies: @iffen
  47. @iffen

    “We’ll see if any defenders of the faith show up.”

    Iffen,

    Are you downing Johnnie Walker Black (JWB) too? Your paragraph reflects an intoxicated search for sense.

    As many “defenders” of the Christian faith understandably clam up for fear of reprisal from Jews, I will show you an article written by former-Jew, Brother Nathanael Kapner who understands that Americans have a shrinking window to become AWARE of the ugly net that ungodly Zionists have them trapped in.

    I well understand you’re impervious to anything spiritual except for that which Zionist Christianity “sells” to you, but in the article “linked” below, Brother Nathanael’s thought can possibly even help YOU begin to partake in “solid food” instead of, for example, Sam the Sham’s “Happy Kosher Meals.”

    Given your having a self-shrunken attention span, I will first discuss the important fact that Brother N. has even constructively taken Paul Craig Roberts to the “woodchuck shed.”

    Nathanael writes: “Others say the media is corporate owned, and Paul Craig Roberts calls media moguls “Presstitutes.” (Note that in the recent past I, “woodchuck,” fuss up to my having fallen into the trap and used the term “Corporate Media”)

    I believe that the respected Paul Craig Roberts would wince when reading what Brother Nathanael conveyed next: “My answer to them: Jews in the press do not ‘prostitute’ themselves for their fellow Jews who own Capital Hill… And assigning ‘corporate ownership’ to the media is a journalistic cover for the fear of the Jews.”

    Iffen, I completely understand how little intake of “solid food’ you can endure, but for the sake of other commenters and P. Giraldiwho who seek wisdom, Brother Nathanael Kapner’s full article is linked below.

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=1194

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
  48. @Agent76

    Corbett is correct on all points. I’d take the pledge, but I didn’t vote for the Trumpster or the Harridan.

    I simply have no faith in the system at all.

    • Replies: @Druid
  49. utu says:
    @iffen

    “If this is true and if it is also true that the Israelis run the foreign policy of the US, why did we invade Iraq and not Iran?”

    I presume you do not argue in good faith because I do not think you are that stupid to make this argument seriously.

    From Bagdad you can go to Damascus or Teheran. In 2003 when the US troops were getting to Bagdad everybody (who can think) wondered whether they will turn left and go to Damascus or right and go to Teheran. At that time there was media campaign trying to implicate Syria in helping Iraq with some kind of radar jammers, so one may think that the neocons wanted Syria to be dealt with first however US military did not have stomach for it at that time.

    • Replies: @iffen
  50. Alden says:
    @Seraphim

    BHL’s ravaged face is not because of age. He is old, but the ravages are probably caused by severe alcoholism. He really does have the face of a long term drunk.

    I agree about the lift drama queens get from their histrionics. There’s another troublesome American ethnic group that enjoys continual drama.

    • Replies: @iffen
  51. iffen says:
    @tjm

    Whether the influence is corrective or corrupting is open to debate.

    That said, most everyone here knows the Truth. Everyone interested in the subject area knows the Truth. The important question is whether the Truth should be changed. If it should be changed, how is that to be accomplished?

  52. Sparkon says:

    This is an excellent, ballsy article by Philip Giraldi.

    However, while the Zionist Jewish State of Israel has been leading the USA around by one testicle since the end of WWII, Blighty has been able to maintain a royal, but firm grip on the other for much longer than that.

    ‘No surprise really, when you consider the notorious Balfour Declaration helped hornswoggle the USA into two massive rounds of bloodletting in Europe, with the establishment of the Jewish State one of the big booby prizes for the so-called victors of the second slaughter.

    But I confess to some confusion about Fiona Hill. Are there two?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Hill

    As Theresa May stood to address regional leaders of the Gulf states in Bahrain last week…sitting immediately behind the PM, her closest adviser and most ferocious defender, Fiona Hill.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/12/fiona-hill-theresa-may-adviser-chief-staff

    Presumably, that Fiona Hill is not the same person as Trump’s reported appointee to his Russian affairs adviser.

    The daughter of a coal miner from County Durham looks set to be appointed by Donald Trump as his top adviser on Russian affairs, as part of the US President’s security team.

    http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2017-03-04/county-durham-miners-daughter-set-for-top-us-white-house-job/

    According to Phil’s (troublesome) FP link in his article, reported appointed Fiona Hill is indeed a dual citizen.

    Hill, a dual U.S.-U.K. citizen and former U.S. intelligence officer from 2006 to 2009, has written critically of Putin’s autocratic tendencies and desire of a “weakened U.S. presidency.”

    Anyway, it’s too bad bout ‘Babs. ‘Great set of pipes, but just another Second Hand Rose, after all.

  53. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    This creepy one? Sounds like his mental circuits got crossed on psychedelic drugs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathanael_Kapner

  54. iffen says:
    @Alden

    but the ravages are probably caused by severe alcoholism.

    Friggin Neanderthal bad skin genes.

    Friggin Neanderthal addictive behavior genes.

  55. lavoisier says: • Website
    @iffen

    She may have if she had listened carefully to what the scarecrow was trying to tell her.

  56. @Sherman

    But I applaud his pro-Israel stance.

    Why?

    Are you an anti-Semite er sumpin?

  57. iffen says:
    @utu

    I presume you do not argue in good faith because I do not think you are that stupid

    I’ll have you know that I am stupid enough to argue in bad faith as well as, or better, than any of the 88s here, et tu.

  58. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    “We’ll see if any defenders of the faith show up.”

    Damn. Defenders of the Jewish faith, woodcuck.

    If PG’s article was a threat then Defenders of the Faith, The Jewish Faith, would show up.

    No wonder we are losing.

  59. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    What is it with these 88s and their, “I found a Jew who said xyz.” I haven’t seen this much attention and importance placed on what some Jew had to say since Moses came down from Mt. Sinai.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  60. Alden says:
    @geokat62

    I’ve posted this before.

    What’s the marching song of the Israeli Army?

    Onward Christian Soldiers.

    • Replies: @iffen
  61. Corvinus says:
    @Mark Green

    The fascination that Jews are the scourge of the world and the bane of Americans by some people is mind blowing. Fortunately, most Americans don’t buy in to this notion that da Joos are squarely responsible for what is wrong with our nation.

  62. jack ryan says: • Website

    I ‘m more than willing to trade some same old, same old US unconditional support for Israel as a Jewish ethno state for some patriotic immigration policies, US border control, build the wall like Israel’s immigration walls.

    The reality is that the American fake news, lying press – Lugenpresse is heavily Jewish. CNN’s top guy Jeff Zucker is currently in Jerusalem Israel giving as speech lying that the American MSM mainstream media is doing just great, better than ever, more profitable and more trusted than ever.

    I wish this ASE*#* Jeff Zucker would just stay in Israel – a country he has loyalty to as he has known for our country the USA.

    The reality is that in this year 2017 “an Anti Semite” is someone the Jews hate, not someone who hates Jews.

    President Trump doesn’t hate Jews in anyway, but the Jews in the US Media, Hollywood, Lib Left Democrat politics and also in (falling in number) Neo Conservative GOP politics really hate Trump and really hate Trump supporters (Working class White Americans in fly over states).

    So what’s to be done?

    I don’t much care what the Indian Lib former South Carolina Governor says in the United Nations – at least she got replaced as governor of South Carolina.

    I think most of the anti Russian talk is just that: talk.

    Talk is cheap.

    Let’s build that wall.

  63. druid says:
    @HBM

    Seems to me Trump has already been cowed by the Ziofascists! Dershowitz and Levy are two of the worst people I have ever encountered in my readings!

  64. iffen says:
    @Alden

    I presume this was put in place long after 1096?

  65. druid says:
    @ThereisaGod

    I totally agree. I have come to the conclusion that Judaism is a big hoax and therefore I suspect Christianity and parts of Islam that are based on them. Islam still makes the most sense, though, based on it’s teaching, despite the relentless propaganda against it!

  66. @Sam Shama

    Sam the Sham,

    My brother in Corpus Christi, below you can take a good “trip” and look into the N.P.O. origins of wikipedia. Jimmy Wales.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales

    Otherwise, I apologize to others as I have (once again) allowed Sam The Sham & sidekick iffen’s bad acid to take me off another one of Mr. Giraldi’s excellent topics.

  67. druid says:
    @Seraphim

    True, and I happen to believe that he has evil in him, just like Dershowitz and so many of their brethren!

  68. @geokat62

    “I’ll give clue… bomb, bomb, bomb… bomb, bomb.”

    Dear geokat62,

    Respectfully, I reply to you (this time) mainly to convey a point that all should pause in order to look around the cyberspace “map.”

    At present we all should know who operates and profits from Facebook, and please consider the “Fourwinds” article below?

    http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/media/internet/news.php?q=1262024557

    We are not getting “bombed” & deceived merely by the Big 6 Corporate Media. Question. Why did Wikileaks cast their net so shallow, selectively?

    post scriptum: So comical to observe how Sam the Sham and iffen are now in over time “Damage Control” mode!

    post scriptum:

  69. zyezek says:

    The fact that America’s government is full of Israel-firsters shouldn’t be shocking. America has been a Plutocracy for a long time now. Many of the plutocrats who anchor or ruling classes are the same wealthy Zionists & Jews who collectively created (and still run) Israel as well.

    The problem is this corrupt plutocracy, not the fact that Jews produce way more of these plutocrats per capita than most other groups. One of the reasons the USA’s rulers have this implacable, seemingly irrational hatred of Russia is that it keeps squashing their dreams of ruling the world. Russians don’t bow to anybody except other Russians- not Subutai Khan, not Napoleon, not Hitler, and certainly not to the likes of George Soros. The Chinese have a similar tradition, but they now control enough ‘Western’ wealth that they can hit back where it really hurts- the rich peoples’ wallets. Both nations committed the unforgivable sin of telling the West’s plutocrats to f**k off & making it stick, especially the Russians in the 1990s who denied these clowns both the opportunity to easily continue the Cold War AND the only victory in it they really cared about (economically colonizing the former USSR). But Russians don’t have the leverage the Chinese do. So while you hear a lot of murmuring about China, it is Russia that is the Official Enemy.

    The American people don’t want endless war, don’t hate Russia, and have no great desire to eternally subsidize Israel & or (frankly) care about its issues. But the people who actually rule the USA DO want those things, and their Tel Aviv compatriots do too. Ordinary Americans are just along for the ride.

  70. annamaria says:
    @Corvinus

    The “fascination?”
    Two points for you to contemplate:
    1.The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and Israel’ influence on the US Congress
    2. First loyalty of the powerful ziocons (they are also extraordinarily numerous, considering the 2.2% of Jews among the US population)

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  71. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    It’s telling, isn’t it? That washed up Jews like Atzmon and this drug addict ‘Brother Nathaneal’ should be Exhibit A to prop up their even madder world views.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @iffen
  72. Ace says:
    @Anon

    Yes. Stop doing SOMETHING and it’s over for ISIS and al-Qaida.

  73. @Sam Shama

    It’s telling, isn’t it? That washed up Jews like Atzmon and this drug addict ‘Brother Nathaneal’

    Ooooh! Sounds like someone’s anteee-Semitic! Tut, tut!

  74. RobinG says:

    “PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ABSULUTELY RIGHT”
    about being wiretapped by Obama, NSA whistleblower Bill Binney told Sean Hannity – who now pretends to be shocked that mass surveillance is happening.


    NSA Whistleblower William Binney on The Sean Hannity Radio Show
    (3/6/2017)

  75. Ivy says:
    @Seraphim

    BHL, Woody Allen and Alan Greenspan walk into a bar and are asked if there is a family reunion scheduled. They look quite a bit alike.

  76. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    “hard-core neo-Nazis, racists, anti-Semites and Holocaust deniers” endorse Atzmon, including David Duke, Kevin B. MacDonald and Israel Shamir.

    An honorable mention for our very own Israel Shamir in the Wiki entry for Atzmon.

  77. Ivy says:
    @annamaria

    Politicians, ball players and others become much more pliable after a few drinks, and of course those photos. A game as old as time, one version was played on the Tom Cruise character in The Firm.

  78. Jews used to be monotheist. They believed their God is only true God while all other gods are false. As Yahweh said, “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.”

    So, Jews believed there is only one true God, and that God favors Jews above all other peoples. All other gods of all other gentiles are false and beneath contempt.

    Ever since Jews abandoned God, they’ve replaced worship of God with self-worship as the Master Race. Their new god is the Glob, the god of globalism controlled by themselves, Jewish Supremacists.

    And Jews now say THERE SHALL BE NO NATION BEFORE OURS, THE ONE TRUE NATION, ISRAEL.
    Therefore, ALL PEOPLES(gentiles) must surrender their own nations to mass invasion & migration and forgo any sense of ethno-national identity.
    The ONLY nation they must believe in, support, defend, and honor is Israel, which is to be a JEWISH state where ONLY JEWS are allowed to immigrate.

    Jews went from monotheism to mono-ethnicism, a conviction that ONLY THE JEWISH ETHNICITY is sacred and worthy of preservation, not least with the blind devotion by gentiles of the world to Jews as their masters.

    When Jews say humanity must abandon nationalism, they really mean gentiles must abandon their false nationalisms and worship & serve the one true nationalism of the Jews. So, all of gentile humanity are to become a mixed-and-matched bag of glob-mob without strong identities of their own.

    As for the gentile hunger for identity, it shall be satiated by serving the strong eternal identity of the Jews and their Jewish state. Gentiles must vicariously ‘share’ in the glory and supremacy of the Jews.

    So, we have Irish, Polish, French, Swedes, Dutch, Germans, Norwegians, white Americans, and etc all rejecting their own identities and nations as tainted and ‘false’ while praising and worshiping Israel as the only nation that deserves to be honored and preserved.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  79. @Corvinus

    It’s funny that you can’t seem find a good word for most Americans in any other case that I can think of. Funny how that works.

  80. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    The fascination that Jews are the scourge of the world and the bane of Americans by some people is mind blowing. Fortunately, most Americans don’t buy in to this notion that da Joos are squarely responsible for what is wrong with our nation.

    Every day now the existence of the Deep State is being revealed. Clearly, all those people avow alliance to Zionist Israel. That fact is unescapable. The Jew house of lies is getting shaky.

    It is getting harder for all the Jew MSM pundits to square all the facts coming out about who is spying on who and why. The talking heads at Fox Jews are struggling to find a set of words to explain away the Deep State attack on Trump. Clearly the Jew personalities at Fox are all anti-Trump. As long as Trump says “America First” Jews will attack him.

    The “Trump collaborates with Russia” attacks are dirty and ugly. They emanate from the Jew power structure that straddles American government. They are aimed at bringing down our President. Chucky Israel and all the left and right wing Jews are leading the attack – this will not be lost on the American people.

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  81. Ace says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The axis of evil nonsense about Iraq was cause for the human equivalent of what you see in some dogs who cock their head in puzzlement at something they can quite figure out. The WMD deal made a certain sense given the energy Saddam Hussein put into clandestine weapons procurement, including calutrons. GWB changed the mission to nation building which was and is absurd. What a simpleton. Yes, George. You could fix Iraq, no problemo.

    Still, the imperative was to do something after 9/11, even if it was the wrong thing. The nation building absurdity totally negated the salutary effect of what should have been a short, violent intervention followed by withdrawal. The American genius for attacking the tar baby was, however, demonstrated with a vengeance. (One of these days we can turn NATO over to the genius Europeans who can show us how it’s done, but we’re sure to hang on for another 50 years. But one day.)

    With that bit of background in mind, it’s a stretch that Americans will embrace the “Iran foremost exporter of terrorism in the world” flapdoodle. Arrogant, miserable ******** that they are, the evidence for that is pretty slim, as is it is for the “Assad the brutal dictator” claim as it relates to a highly popular, enlightened, decent person suddenly called upon to deal with the charnel house of as-is Middle East politics. Assad, the mad dog ophthalmologist!

    Americans have begun to realize that the lust for aggressive war is buried deep in the hearts of our Treason Class and that the MSM are purveyors of slop a pig wouldn’t touch.

    There is little enthusiasm for a stupid war with Iran, or Russia for that matter, regardless of the utter nonsense you see on FoxNews from Ralph Peters, Jack Keane, and K.T. McFarland. Utterly without contradiction, I might add. And do.

  82. Corvinus says:
    @annamaria

    “The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) and Israel’ influence on the US Congress…”

    Our Congress is influenced by a host of groups, from the Jews to black organizations to Fortune 500 Companies.

    “First loyalty of the powerful ziocons (they are also extraordinarily numerous, considering the 2.2% of Jews among the US population)”

    Let us assume that Jews do run everything in America. So what? Should not non-Jews just work that much harder to get where the Jews are at? Do not non-Jews have the opportunity to better themselves, to get ahead in this country, or is everything stacked against them squarely due to Jewish machinations?

    Let us flip the script. Assume that non-Jews were in a similar circumstance, that they controlled our institutions. Would they feel “sorry” for Jews because they lack influence and power? Would they give willingly give up what they earned just to make Jews feel better about themselves?

    Put it this way…what are YOU actively doing to stop this Jewish cabal that has apparently pulled the wool over the eyes of most (white) Americans?

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @annamaria
  83. Corvinus says:
    @Art

    “It is getting harder for all the Jew MSM pundits to square all the facts coming out about who is spying on who and why. The talking heads at Fox Jews are struggling to find a set of words to explain away the Deep State attack on Trump. Clearly the Jew personalities at Fox are all anti-Trump. As long as Trump says “America First” Jews will attack him.”

    Correct, it is a conspiracy of epic proportions. How can white America be so stupid and naive? I mean, you are clearly smarter than everyone. So, how do you propose to properly indoctrinate, I mean educate, me and my fellow whites about Jews and their dominating power? How do you propose to take them down? I’m sure you have crafted a well-conceived, step by step plan to carry out your mission. Please, by all means, show us the way.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Art
  84. Corvinus says:
    @Priss Factor

    “So, we have Irish, Polish, French, Swedes, Dutch, Germans, Norwegians, white Americans, and etc all rejecting their own identities and nations as tainted and ‘false’ while praising and worshiping Israel as the only nation that deserves to be honored and preserved.”

    Let us assume what you propose is true, that tens of millions of people have been duped by Jews, that they have completely lost their way. So what? How does that personally impact YOUR life? Is it not the liberty of these people to follow another group if they deem that group worthy to follow? And how are YOU engaging in a grass roots campaign to convince the world to remove this scourge known as Jews?

    Now, of course, these groups have NOT rejected their identity, do NOT view their nation as tainted. You are making a broad generalization because they make their own decisions regarding race and culture, and you find their choices to be in opposition of your worldview. Talk about desiring for everyone to be monolithic according to the world of The Priss Factor/anon/Blair Witch Mountain and your other identities on this fine blog.

    It is mere jealousy on your part, nay impotence, that you lash out at Jews for your failures. Scapegoating and projection are, unfortunately, your strengths.

  85. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    http://pagesix.com/2017/03/07/mandy-patinkin-homeland-to-improve-muslim-depiction/

    Classic Case of IS IT GOOD FOR THE JEWS?

    When it was advantageous for Jewish interests to stir up anti-Muslim hatred(especially among white Christians) to expand Wars for Israel, the ‘Muzzies’ were the baaaaaaaaaaaaad guys!!!

    But now that Jews need Muslims as allies against ‘Literally Hitler Trump’, Jewish Hollywood is making Muslims as ‘not-so-bad-guys’, and maybe even ‘sort-of-good-guys’ on condition that they are depicted as ‘victims’ of ‘white supremacism’. Never mind it was Jewish control of US foreign policy that brought so much grief to the Muslim World.

  86. chris says:
    @iffen

    I appreciate your frustration iffen, but remember, Phil is our hero and friend !

    Historically, there’s only been one or two cures for this type of situation: bankruptcy and or war; then they do leave (as in Russia since the 1980s). The good news is we’re well on our way with both.

    To see what happens to the host after they leave, see the antagonism toward Russia with the goal of its utter destruction, currently underway.

    .

    • Replies: @iffen
  87. Druid says:
    @animalogic

    I am a US citizen and I feel just that way

  88. Druid says:
    @Tha Philosopher

    Very well said. It’s amazing to me how most people don’t seem to see past the propaganda and see the “chosen” for who they really are.

  89. Druid says:
    @tjm

    They really do hate us!

  90. Rurik says:

    Quite frankly, if these folks are so much in love with Israel they should go live there and leave the rest of us as well as the U.S. Treasury alone.

    If we are heading into yet another round of Israel-centric foreign policy we will be inevitably involved in new wars, starting with Iran

    and all of it is a direct consequence of allowing a handful of Jewish banksters to control our money supply

    with that control, it gives them the financial wherewithal to own and control our media and politicians and all the institutions of our culture and government

    I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world — no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.

    ~ Woodrow Wilson

    – reflecting on what he had done by chartering the Fed and allowing private bankers (the greediest men on the planet) to control this nation’s money supply

    and that was a hundred years ago!

    since then we’ve had nothing but wars (to create and benefit Israel) and a mass-looting of the wealth of this nation and others, and always in homage to Israel.

    As it always will be unless we find a way to end the Fed and free humanity from the chains that Wilson shackled upon our collective destiny.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  91. Druid says:
    @Sherman

    Why don’t you move to your Ziofascist nirvana!

  92. Z-man says:

    Great article. I guess Philip Giraldi has a good 401 K plan as it’s almost suicidal to talk in these terms for a respected commenter but then again he is the head of CNI so he has already shown his courage or ‘gone beyond the point of no return’, lol.
    You can see the fear of some of these talking heads on TV when the scent of ‘questioning our blind allegiance’ to Ishrael comes up in conversation. I remember a few years back the lovely Margaret Brennan of CBS was edging towards the truth on some Mid East crisis at the time and she knew to hold back or she’d be long gone. Even I, as an internet warrior, was careful, when I was younger, to beware the power of the ‘few’.
    I’m glad Giraldi picked on that smelly ‘Frenchman’ besides the usual suspect, Douche-a-Witz. For Levy was even more despicable than smelly Alan. Hiding his rabid Zionism behind the fakeness of being a ‘humanist’. I say ‘was’ because I’ve observed that Levy has become more vocal in his support for the Zionist Entity since his helping to destroy Libya. As one gets older his true colors come out. I’m sure he is even less popular now in France and elsewhere. Good riddance!
    I’m glad Mr. Giraldi has had the ‘cogliones’ to keep the faith even when he was a little younger and could have lost his 401K.
    Too all like minded readers share this article with as many sites as possible!!!

  93. @Corvinus

    Well, Corvy, only the paranoids and sociopaths have no soft spots and are rarely caught off guard. I don’t know what will happen, but if Jewish history plays out the same as it has so many times before, my guess is that nobody will care what happens to Jews if they lose out this time. I know I won’t care one bit.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  94. Z-man says:

    BTW Ellie Wiesel, very appropriate name, is another phony who gladly is no longer with us. I always get him and Levy confused as the same person, understandably so, lol.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  95. Druid says:
    @Corvinus

    One huge difference. Jews never work for their host countries, only yhemselves. Now it’s all for Israel and its fascist policies

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  96. “Chucky Israel and all the left & right wing Jews are leading the attack — this will not be lost on the American people.”

    Art,

    I truly respect your comments but I am not as optimistic as you regarding the latent awareness of the “American people.” I would really like to believe in President Trump as being a Charles Lindbergh- style America-Firster, but I don’t want to yield to what old folk called “pipe-dreams.”

    In fact, during periods of maximum pessimism, I suggest that tomorrow President Trump could come out and level with citizens with the following Tweet without doing anymore harm to himself than what his Zionist have already allowed him to do:

    President Trump (imaginary) Tweet: “The U.S.A. is in worst condition than I thought! For one example, Springfield Illinois lawmakers (hee-hee) are in such doo-doo that they’re moving to designate October 2017 as ‘Zombie Preparedness Month.’ I’d return to the Apprentice before I let such crisis happen to the rest of the U.S.A., and today I announce that we’re officially under Israeli domestic and foreign policy management.”

    Next day poll result on CNN, MSNBC, Fox News: 45% favor Israel taking total control of U.S. government; 30% against, and 25% willing to take what’s given.

    (Note: Art, I know what I wrote above sounds crazy, but please look at today’s Wall Street Journal article titled, “Illinois Is Prepared — for Zombies,” written by labor lawyer, Gerald Skonig)

    Also, I would be happier were America getting screwed by an honest-crooked government which tells the masses exactly how & what the word in & out “screwed” is.

    No more bullshit about wanting to give the D.O.D. $50 billion more to “keep us safe” and make all competitors shit scared of the U.S. military! No more bullshit about improving the crooked A.C.A. (Obamacare) by allowing vanquished American workers to buy “good’ health care plans (without having enough money to afford even crappy ones), and then piss on everybody by stating, “you’ll get tax credits!”

    Yes — like you wrote above, Art, The “Trump collaborates with Russia ” attacks are dirty and ugly. ” What’s dirtier and uglier is the fact that all goes silent when, in the plain words of Brother Nathanael, “Trump collaborates with Israel.”

    In summary, I believe we’re really fucked, but it’s healthy to take heart in P. Giraldi’s expose articles, while of course doing so is still possible.

    • Replies: @Art
  97. I associate myself with the thoughts contained in Giraldi’s lead paragraph. As one who voted for Trump, I’m getting bad vibes about the way his foreign policy is heading. . . .

    Giraldi mentions Alan Dershowitz, that pond scum-sucking Zionist shyster. That cretin is nothing but an apologist for the boys back in Tel Aviv. The Douche ought to get the hell over there–permanently.

    And, yeah, there’s Israel. They’re economically deprived, unarmed, and facing the wealthy, nuclear-armed Palestinians. Ain’t it a bitch?

  98. Paul C. says:
    @Rurik

    That’s it in a nutshell. Not only do they control the FED, but every central bank in the world, maybe with the exception of one or two (North Korea, Cuba).

    • Replies: @Rurik
  99. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Why ” don’t buy in to this notion that da Joos are squarely responsible for what is wrong with our nation”

    BECAUSE in this short sample that shows the existence of the perversion of the reality – achieved by money media and maligning

    1 I srael’s friends characteristically either run or have the ear of the media and they are supported by a formidable Washington based lobbying machine to get their point across. Whenever anything happens in the Middle East or elsewhere that is related to Israel’s perceived interests the machine goes to work with multiple position papers presented to every congressional office the next morning by runners from AIPAC, AEI, FPI, WINEP, JINSA and FDD. No one else has the clout of the Israel Lobby.

    2 Bernard-Henri Levy, writes in The New York Times and no alternate voices are allowed and the asshole goes unpunished for lying and because people are educated and instructed and forced to think he is French Philosopher that the world badly needs

    3 because another asshole is allowed to get away with confusion and lying statements on ““victory in the war against bigotry, anti-Semitism, [and] the anti-Israel push of the hard left within the Democratic Party.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  100. @Mark Green

    I’ll let Mr. Green say it:

    “The US is slowly going bonkers. And Israel’s rising influence is a prime reason why. Understanding Washington’s maniacal, hypocritical, and ruthless operations cannot be comprehended without examining the vast and deep corridors of American power occupied by crypto-Israelis. . . .”

  101. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “Well, Corvy, only the paranoids and sociopaths have no soft spots and are rarely caught off guard.”

    Are you part of these fun groups?

    “I don’t know what will happen, but if Jewish history plays out the same as it has so many times before, my guess is that nobody will care what happens to Jews if they lose out this time.”

    You underestimate the compassion of white people.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  102. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “Why ” don’t buy in to this notion that da Joos are squarely responsible for what is wrong with our nation” BECAUSE in this short sample that shows the existence of the perversion of the reality – achieved by money media and maligning”

    Priss Factory/anon/War For Blair Mountain, you have an alternative reality. Regardless, what are YOU doing other than lamenting on a blog to ensure that Jewish people will not get away with things anymore? It seems that you ought to praise their clout and try to imitate their success rather than curse at their accomplishments out of jealousy and rage.

    • Replies: @tjm
  103. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Was British empire dealt the fatal blow by East European ( Russian ) Jews ? Did they cause earlier same destructive troubles in Russia and Germany between 1900 and 1947?

    Are they now causing same to USA? Will they find another host ? they have been thinking of moving to another country and find another enabler It was evident in discussion in Tablet and Isreli news paper Even Cohen spoke about this .

  104. iffen says:
    @Sherman

    Talha and I, and animal lovers the world over demand assurances from you that Rehmat’s goat is in a safe space.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  105. Seraphim says:
    @animalogic

    @his love for the Jewish people is “insufficient.”

    I ventured an explanation of Jewish behavior at #8:
    ‘Like in any addiction, one builds up a tolerance that continuously requires stronger drugs to get the same effect. So, drama becomes more intense, one needs more and more crises to get the same thrill’.

    The disorder is as old as the birth of this ‘nation’. It was well entrenched when the Christ told them:
    “THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat: 3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. ” (Matthew 23:1-13).

    • Replies: @iffen
  106. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    So, how do you propose to properly indoctrinate, I mean educate, me and my fellow whites about Jews and their dominating power? How do you propose to take them down?

    White black or brown – I have already turned to the Jew’s greatest enemy – Jesus Christ.

    Jesus said “the truth will set you free.” I am telling the truth about a very bad tribe of people.

    Jesus also said to “forgive those who do not know what they are doing.” So I do not seek revenge for the robotic Jews that have been terrorized by their elders at very early age.

    Jesus set the example to get mad at the money changers. This we must do.

    Jesus said “to love our enemy.”

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @tjm
  107. iffen says:
    @chris

    I appreciate your frustration iffen, but remember, Phil is our hero and friend !

    The Jews What Done it has limited political appeal to the American people and it will not be influential in any alternative political opposition that might develop.

    I may be wrong and the Jew York Times might be right and this may be the beginning of Trumpen Reich, but I am not putting any money on it.

  108. iffen says:
    @Seraphim

    So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

  109. RobinG says:

    Following Vault 7 ??

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/world/europe/wikileaks-cia-hacking.html?_r=0
    WikiLeaks Releases Trove of Alleged C.I.A. Hacking Documents

  110. @Druid

    Why discredit your arguments with ridiculous exaggeration. Or maybe you are just sliding through an argument which uses “themselves” to mean sometimes “Jews generally” and when it suits, “the individual Jew whose actions are being examined” and has as its premise that whatever private or group advantage *might* or probably will accrue is the only real motive (even when it is actually not a motive at all).

    BTW have you noticed that “no man can serve two masters” is actually false? And “dual”or “divided” loyalties has always been the reality of most civilised people’s lives? Cf. multiple identities. Most people don”t drive themselves mad trying constantly to reconcile them all.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Druid
  111. Corvinus says:
    @Art

    “Jesus said “the truth will set you free.” I am telling the truth about a very bad tribe of people.”

    No, you are telling YOUR version of the truth. And by essentially saying that God is on your side against the “enemy”, you fall prey to the “my religion is better than your religion” phenomenon.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Seraphim
  112. Rurik says:
    @Paul C.

    Not only do they control the FED, but every central bank in the world, maybe with the exception of one or two (North Korea, Cuba).

    they didn’t have Libya until recently, and they’re trying very hard to get Syria

    they use our own money to enslave us

    it’s a vile and humiliating state of affairs

    So when people scratch their head, and wonder ‘why do the Jews have all this power?’

    well, it’s as simple as owning the Fed (money machine)

    if anyone’s interested in this Biblical level of betrayal of the American people, all they have to do is research it – it’s all out there.

    we will be their slaves and toil so that they can ‘live off the fat of the land’, while our children are ground up in their devil’s wars. Every time you hear a “Christian” preacher invoke the name of ‘Israel’ in his ministry and sermons (studiously pretending that it isn’t the anti-Christ center of global strife today), you can be sure there’s some shekels clinking under the frock.

    The rot is deep Paul C., to be sure 😉

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  113. Art says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    but I am not as optimistic as you regarding the latent awareness of the “American people.

    Chuck,

    I agree I was too much of an optimist. Actually, I am a total near term pessimist. But I do think that today, there are more people aware of the menacing Jew then yesterday.

    Something has changed from a year ago – there are only two groups of commenters – the usual robotic Jews, and those who are aware of the great Judaic jeopardy. The “oh gee golly” fence sitters of the past are gone.

    When 10 to 20% of the people acknowledge the Jew menace – change can occur. Some event has to trigger that to happen. Let us hope that it is a minor catastrophe – not a world shaking event.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. As too “Trump collaborates with Israel” – sad but true, no one could be elected president who opposes Israel. Period.

  114. iffen says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    has as its premise that whatever private or group advantage *might* or probably will accrue is the only real motive (even when it is actually not a motive at all).

    Group advancement is a motive.

    Not that the commenter established that Jews, some or any, are so motivated.

  115. @Corvinus

    Compassion has limits, even for whites.

    Fun groups? I’ve met individual Jews that I liked, but I don’t care at all for the Jewish collective, culture, power structure homeland, or anything associated. I’m in opposition to it all, just as most Jews oppose the Gentile/Christian/white collective.

    I’m an anti-semite to a similar degree that many Jews tend towards being anti-gentile.

    • Replies: @tjm
    , @Corvinus
  116. tjm says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    Out in America there is the vast ignorance of the contrived belief that there is “a left and a right” in America, not because we know it, but because that it what the media shows us.

    JFK was a lie, 9/11 was a lie, the reasons we attacked Iraq a lie, people who want secure borders are racist is a lie…the point is, we are surrounded by lies, but you choose to believe those liars.

    Clinton was NEVER going to be President, what she got out of this is a get out of jail free card…This was always Trump’s.

    Trump said all along the election was rigged, people thought he was talking about the Dems, typical misdirection. Trump was in debt to the tune of $4,000,000,000.00, to 70 Jewish NY banks, what do you think he did to get them to back off, what promises did he make?

    • Replies: @Johnny F. Ive
  117. tjm says:
    @Johnny F. Ive

    The point is, you are thinking way too small, this is about world conquest, it always has been. They will never be happy until all the world is their slave.

    You divide up Clinton and Trump like their is a difference, yet Zionists own them both.

    They also own the media which is what paints the lie that there is difference.

    It astounds me that people know the media and the powers that be lie, but don’t apply that knowledge to everyday events.

    The media only reports what they want us to hear, even when it does not even happen. That is why the very idea of polling is so ridiculous, as anyone should trust polls.

  118. Druid says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    Point taken and correct!

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  119. Druid says:
    @jacques sheete

    I’ve lost my faith. Voted Jill Stein!

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  120. tjm says:
    @LondonBob

    Dream on, at what point, if any will people like you admit Trump is not saving America, but just another Zionist troll.

    Is it more important to you if a person says they support America, or if they actually do it?

    Because as yet, the orange hair prick talks a lot, but has done nothing for America, except some asinine travel ban on people from nations Israel had us destroy.

    Reading your comment is like reading the front page of the NYTimes, total shit, as if one word of it is true.

    Trump is owned by the Zionists, and the idea that Trump filling his cabinet with warmongers, and Wall Street Zionist filth, is “promising”, are you mental?

    JFK MADE NO MISTAKES, the mistake was that the American people did not rise up then and kick the Zionist filth out of our nation then. Close the central bank, and bomb Israel into the dark ages, where it belongs. Zionism is destroying America and the world, they own both the dems and the republicans. I guess Obama looking the other way when Israel stole land, killed Palestinians and gave the Zionist monsters $38,000,000,000.00 was not enough, Trump will give them even more. Could you lower the bar anymore?

  121. Wally says:
    @Mark Green

    neurotic Jews:

    the bride at every wedding, the corpse at very funeral

    The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion
    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/the-costs-to-american-taxpayers-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html

    and little details like:

    ‘Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security’
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs/

    Fact:
    every US taxpayers ‘loan’ that “that shitty little country” has received has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives/forgave” all these huge debts.

    Let’s not mention the vast sums they receive from ‘Homeland Security’ to do much of the spying.

    Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country.
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo

    and:
    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg

    and:
    “IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology”
    http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/08/idf-unit-8200-cyberwar-veterans-developed-nsa-snooping-technology/

    Of course, auditing the Federal Reserve is being resisted tooth & nail by Zionist interests. Why?

    and then:
    “There’s no business like Shoah business.”

    Cash to Israel:
    It totals more than $120 billion.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/U.S._Assistance_to_Israel1.html

    It is 3 billion plus EVERY YEAR and that number does not include additional co-production schemes that benefit the Israeli armaments industry, which competes with our own, or special funds voted by congress like the current $280 million to enable Israel to develop iron dome, which it will then try to sell to other countries like India. And also “every penny” is completely wrong. The Israelis claim that they spend 75% of the money on US weapons, which may or may not be correct. The US provides more than 20% of Israel’s total defense budget and we get squat in return but I guess you think it is a good investment for the US taxpayer.

    • Replies: @tjm
  122. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Iffen,
    I did inform you in Ilana’s article that Rehmat and his chèvre are holidaying at an exclusive couples only resort in Bagram province, Afghanistan.

    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
  123. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Keith says

    ” Dorothy never said anything about the Wizard being Jewish”

    That is because Dorothy never lived in Jewyork and invested with Berni Madoff…. The financial Wizard who fleeced billions from Americans.

  124. tjm says:
    @Corvinus

    “It seems that you ought to praise their clout and try to imitate their success rather than curse at their accomplishments out of jealousy and rage”.

    What a great statement, and how exactly to imitate such “success”.

    Jewish Hollywood LOVES to paint every white man as a slave owner, rubbing salt on an open wound in America’s past. Yet, Jews don’t tell the whole story, while 30% of whites owned slaves when it was “legal”, 70% of JEWISH FAMILIES OWNED SLAVES, as well as owned many of the salve ships and slave trading companies. Of course, this is no surprise to anyone who knows history. But in America we are bombarded with Zionist Jewish propaganda to make them look good at the price of everyone else. Jews have been hated, not because of some abstract idea of anti-Semitism, but because they have always seem themselves as “other than”, outsiders in every nation. To imitate Jewish success is to be a parasite on a nation. Carpet baggers where Jews, after WW1, it was the Jews who came in and took advantage of the destroyed German economy…same thing in Russia after the downturn, and that pig Yeltsin handed over his people’s resources to the Jews to pillage. First thing that Putin did was start locking them up, and Jews have hated him ever since. Jews are not better than anyone, they use their money to always take care of other Jews. Jews love to push “multiculturalism” on America, yet Hollywood is almost entirely run by Jews, and that’s OK with them. That way they can insure only Zionist propaganda gets made. And while those Jews push for multiculturalism and open borders in America, it’s against the law for a Jew to marry a non Jew in Israel, and for immigration you need a blood test to get into Israel. Yet in America they use their media to demonize anyone who wants secure borders.

    Jews are not successful in the ways that are important, they are successful in ways that are wholly destructive and lead to nothing but WAR, death and suffering.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @schmenz
  125. tjm says:
    @Art

    In reality, one need not scratch far under the surface to find a Zionist at work.

    In America, every aspect of our society is disproportionately effected by Jewish Zionist influence, yet when you point out how this influence is destructive, they recoil and get angry that you generalize.

    I have heard the one thing you can’t call a Jew, is a Jew. They live in a world of hypocrisy. They use Hollywood to paint every white man a slave owner and every priest a pedophile, yet Hollywood, which is totally controlled by Jews, pedophilia is a open secrete. And while Hollywood loves to rub the sin of slavery in the face of white and lacks in America, far more Jews owned slaves in America than did white families, on a percentage basis. As well as much of the slave ships were Jewish owned. Jewish organizations have been at the for front of open borders and mass migration, even much of the legislation that helped create our migrations disaster was authored and championed by Jews. Jews are always leading the way to America’s guilt, and using that guilt to undermine us as every turn.

    America gives them money, gives them weapons and protects them, and how to they pay us back, Wall Street?! They are the enemy within, and have worked against our society for decades, if not centuries. It is always galling how these Jewish organizations demonize Americans for wanting secure borders, using their media to paint us as “racist”, yet in Israel, they celebrate their walls, and one needs a blood test to gain citizenship.

    They are hypocrites and this does not even touch on their atrocities in pushing America to war with Iraq, Iran, and every other nation their central banks can’t infiltrate.

    They own Trump, he is just a whore, who owed Jewish NY banks some $4 billion, and now he is setting up for something big, be sure whatever it is, the Zionists will benefit and the American people will suffer.

  126. Cheering for Israel is the same thing as cheering for the American victim cult.

    The American victim cult is based on the same ideology that the Israeli victim cult is based.

    The following are notable similarities between the US and Israel:

    1. US-Israel are national democracies with no effective constitutional limits on their national government’s law making power. Government powers are based on the whims of whomever is appointed to the Supreme Court.

    2. US-Israel are dominated by an organized, super-majority of voters who self-identify as a victim cult that is supposedly oppressed by Nazi. This victim cult is recognized by the central government as a bunch of entitled-by-law protected class groups. This victim cult advertises itself as being anti-Nazi.

    3. US-Israel victim cults define a Nazi profile as being white-gentile-Christian-straight-gringo-healthy-independent-militia-occidental-constitution-loving-male.

    4. US-Israel have 2-party systems that dominate national politics

    5. US Republicans = conservative Judaism = Israeli Likud Party

    6. US Democrats = secular Judaism = Israeli Labor Party

    7. US-Israel have a super-majority of protected victim cult class voters, special people that demand and receive thousands of class based federal entitlements by law in exchange for their votes.

    8. US-Israel are fascist and aggressive proponents of the American-Israeli protected victim class supremacy scheme in the world

    9. US-Israel coordinate their attacks and sabotage of Jewish-Israeli enemies in the middle east and around the world.

    10. US-Israel coordinate their black operations

    11. US-Israel share their military technology and intelligence

    12. US-Israel are international pariah states for the same reasons and share the same enemies.

    13. US-Israel have biased immigration and voting policies in favor of victim cult people.

    14. US-Israel cover for each others transgressions in the UN

    15. US-Israel military and foreign aid agreements are heavily biased toward victim cult enrichment

    16. US-Israel relationship is such that Israel can attack the US Navy, and be rewarded for doing so (USS Liberty)

    17. US-Israel contain many Judeo-Christian (aka Jewish Messiah) devotees, people that venerate Jewish Old Testament morality.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  127. tjm says:
    @Wally

    and that $3 Billion a year does not touch the money paid to the Federal Reserve…

    One could write and write and write giving examples of the way Americans pay for Israel/Jewish interests.

    Each election season, we are witness to one groveling whore after another, each fighting to show who is more supportive of Israel.

    Trump was no different, he just played lip service to Americans which of course got him branded a racist by the Zionist Jews who hate US.

    Jews don’t mind Israel’s draconian immigration laws, or Apartheid governemnt, but in America, they use their media to destroy anyone who speaks up for America’s culture or society. They condition Americans to hate our history, our past, our founding fathers. You look behind the scenes, at the names and organizations who have spear headed “multiculturalism”, open borders and amnesty, you will find “altruistic Jews”, yet again, where is this altruism in Israel. You see the same thing going on in Europe.

    There is no easy answer, but for sure people are waking up, and all I ask is that everyone in America needs to be putting America first, and I don’t see that happening any time soon.

    • Agree: anarchyst
  128. annamaria says:
    @Corvinus

    You obviously mistook unscrupulous mentality for intelligence.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Keith says:

    “Sounds like his mental circuits got crossed on psychedelic drugs”.

    No, his mental circuits got crossed after reading the Talmud.

    • Replies: @Art
  130. Svigor says:

    The fascination that Jews are the scourge of the world and the bane of Americans by some people is mind blowing. Fortunately, most Americans don’t buy in to this notion that da Joos are squarely responsible for what is wrong with our nation.

    Oh, we already know you’re a total hypocrite, Corvanus: past European colonialism bad and worth constant mention; current Jewish colonialism nonexistent, never worth mention.

    • Agree: Z-man
  131. Svigor says:

    Corvanus, we’ll accept your “blown mind” as genuine when you consider some form of criticism against European, NON-JEWs to be “mind-blowing” as well. There’s certainly plenty of it out there, with you contributing far more than your share.

    Why would Jews be excepted? Chosen people of God?

  132. Svigor says:

    “It seems that you ought to praise their clout and try to imitate their success rather than curse at their accomplishments out of jealousy and rage”.

    Corvanus, pay closer attention to history; criticizing Jews is precisely an imitation of Jews’ behavior.

  133. tjm says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    I will say this, I was not born an anti-Semite, I became one through observation and experience.

    At the university I went to, I saw Jewish groups limiting any type of open debate about Israel. Yet they would be the first ones to support anyone who wants to come and attack America, our immigration, our culture, you name it.

    A Jewish women sat next to me in a class, and told me how she belonged to a Jewish group that was their to give “support”. I said support for what, “against antisemitism”. And listening to this self-righteous bitch, was more than I could take. She was always the victim, in her own mind, and the minds of her fellow Jews.

    But what is most challenging is the fact that Jews such social justice warriors, women’s rights, gay rights, blacks…not because they respect them, no, but because they like to promote the victim culture, the culture they wallow in. Fighting for human rights is wonderful, but they are into “special rights”, “affirmative action, dreamers”.

    I could go on, but the point is, much of our situation in America is predicated on the fact that Jewish influence over our society is so pervasive, it is undeniable. This influence, does not bring us together, lift us up, unite us, quite to the contrary, it divides us, pit us against one another, which is something they have been doing to other cultures long before America was created, or so I have been told. I don’t hate anyone, Jews included, I hate what they do, with they power we give them.

    • Replies: @Paul C.
  134. Corvinus says:
    @tjm

    “Yet, Jews don’t tell the whole story, while 30% of whites owned slaves when it was “legal”, 70% of JEWISH FAMILIES OWNED SLAVES, as well as owned many of the salve ships and slave trading companies.”

    You are a liar.

    The source of the claim that 70% of Southern Jews were slave owners is “The Secret History…”.

    At his press conference, Farrakhan cited the book (and held it up for the cameras), then made the more absurd claim that 75% of slaves were held by Jews. For this claim he cited the Jewish historian Harold Brackman. Mr. Brackman wrote the following letter to the New York Times,
    published Feb 14, 1994.

    To the Editor:

    [MORE]

    Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, stated in his Feb. 3 news conference that my unpublished 1977 dissertation for the University of California, Los Angeles, on the history of black-Jewish relations agreed “with everything we said” in “The Secret Relationship Between Black and Jews.” That anonymous Nation of Islam book claims that the Atlantic slave trade was “dominated” by Jewish merchants (who, according to the authoritative Jacob Rader Marcus, accounted for “considerably less than 2 percent” of the traffic).

    Mr. Farrakhan’s is the age-old anti-Semitic technique of distorting the work of Jewish scholars (and Jewish religious literature) to defame Jews. His animus against me is for writing for the Simon Siesenthal Center “Farrakhan’s Reign of Historical Error,” exposing “The Secret Relationship” as hate propaganda masquerading as history.

    My doctoral thesis – while unflinchingly documenting the involvement of Jews in the slave trade – came to the same conclusion as every other reputable work of scholarship: that in the overall scheme of things, it was extremely marginal.

    A new charge made by Mr. Farrakhan is that my dissertation proves that the rabbis who compiled the Talmud “invented” racism by concocting the so-called “Ham myth.” As best I could, based on English translations, I discussed racial attitudes during this period, not only in Jewish sources, but also in the writings of Hellenistic physicians and geographers, as well as the church fathers.

    None of my conclusions correspond to this vicious libel. In recent ears, Ephraim Isaac of the Institute of Semitic Studies at Princeton University (an Ethiopian-born Jew) and David B. Davis of Yale University have shown that the Talmudic sages never extended their negative speculations about Ham, Noah’s son, and Canaan, Ham’s son, to Cush, Ham’s other son, identified as progenitor of the African peoples south of Egypt.

    The fateful linkage between slave status and black skin as part of a divine curse was first made centuries later by Islamic writers. They used it to rationalize the Arab slave trade, which, according to the best estimates, carried more Africans in bondage north across the Sahara and east over the Red Sea (14.4 million between the years 60 and 1900) than were shipped west in European ships in the four centuries of the Atlantic slave trade.

    Mr. Farrakhan also claimed that “75 percent of the slaves owned in the South were owned by Jewish slave-holders.” In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. Jews owned only a fraction of 1 percent – thousands, not millions – of the enslaved population.

    Harold Brackman, San Diego, Feb 4, 1994

    “Of course, this is no surprise to anyone who knows history. But in America we are bombarded with Zionist Jewish propaganda to make them look good at the price of everyone else.”

    Clearly you jealous. I suggest improving yourself.

    “Jews love to push “multiculturalism” on America…”

    In reality, Americans have pushed it since its inception.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  135. Paul C. says:
    @Rurik

    Without a doubt. I wonder how many Christian ministers know the truth. Clearly those taking the money do. I’ve noticed Chuck Baldwin revealing the truth.

    All levels of society have been corrupted beyond the gov’t, banking and media. We have to include medical (repressed cures), pharmaceutical (treat symptoms only), food (GMO), water (fluoride), education (heliocentric model), history (lies regarding all wars), aerospace (fake NASA), energy (repressed breakthroughs such as ‘free energy’) and legal system (Maritime corp law vs Common law).

    What makes it even worse is many “elites” are satanic and follow the Talmud. They control Freemasonry (based on the Kabbalah) which is the system used to control society through the courts, police and brain washing via music industry and Hollywood.

    The rabbit hole is deep. We need a mass awakening.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  136. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “Compassion has limits, even for whites.”

    Not for Christians who white and non-whites.

    “but I don’t care at all for the Jewish collective, culture, power structure homeland, or anything associated.”

    That is your cross to bear.

    “I’m in opposition to it all, just as most Jews oppose the Gentile/Christian/white collective.”

    No, most Jews are not in opposition. You are assuming and projecting.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  137. Corvinus says:
    @annamaria

    “You obviously mistook unscrupulous mentality for intelligence.”

    That would describe yourself in a nutshell. Now, if you desire to get out of purgatory, please answer honestly my inquiries.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  138. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Franklin

    Your diatribe typifies victimhood. Why are you, compared to most whites, other than duped? How do you propose to indoctrinate, I mean teach, Americans of their propensity to overlook the machinations of Jews?

    • Replies: @Joe Franklin
  139. Seraphim says:

    @he is just a whore

    He is a pimp who sold his own daughter.

  140. Art says:
    @Corvinus

    And by essentially saying that God is on your side against the “enemy”, you fall prey to the “my religion is better than your religion” phenomenon.

    “my religion is better than your religion” phenomenon — not so!

    Jesus said “the truth will set you free.”

    What is religious about that – those words do not invoke god – they invoke facts and brains – those words are philosophical – not religious.

    No question, my philosophy of truth seeking is superior to your inferior Jew philosophy of endless lie telling.

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  141. @Druid

    I’ve lost my faith. Voted Jill Stein!

    Nope. Voting is for chumps.

  142. @iffen

    Someone is unaware of the connection between smoke and fire. Or, at least he expects others to deny the connection.

  143. L.K says:

    Great article by Mr.Giraldi.

    Funny thing how in the comment section of Giraldi’s articles on Israel and its 5th column we always, and I mean always, find the same crowd of Zio scumbags, liars and trolls pushing their stale lies and the usual obfuscation tactics;
    Shameless, iffen, Sherman, Corvinus, etc…

    I have to say that for this comment section though, our boy corvinus takes the cake.

    • Replies: @Z-man
  144. @Corvinus

    All I have to do is listen to Jews themselves to understand the ethnocentrism that is so common among them. Many Jews brag about their radicalism, which is little more than ethnic aggression disguised as altruism. Jewish dislike for white and Christian America is so out in the open, that it’s not worth debating, even with an honest person.

    Opposing Jewish culture, values, or whatever you want to call it, is a rational decision, not a cross to bear.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  145. Art says:
    @Anonymous

    Keith says:

    “Sounds like his mental circuits got crossed on psychedelic drugs”.

    No, his mental circuits got crossed after reading the Talmud.

    Poor Mr. Shama.

    His mental circuits were never formed – at the age of 5 his elders traumatized him into shutting out all criticism of his Jew identity.

    When he sees something critical of Judaism, his brain short circuits the negative images into his subconscious junk mail box.

    The upshot is that the poor Shama man-boy, is blind to reality, when the question of Jews comes up. He just cannot fathom that Jews do any wrong.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Shama’s big problem is that he can never flush his junk mail box. The subconscious truth is haunting him. We must feel sorry for him and forgive him. Because of his elders, the man-boy is not in charge of himself.

  146. Z-man says:
    @L.K

    LOL, what are you new to the internet? Besides some regular liars, lol, Israel has professional trolls on many, many web sites where criticism of the Zionist state can occur. They cleverly, or not so cleverly, hit back any and all who dare speak up against ‘mother’ Israel. This is to intimidate but most people have seen thru this and of course hit back. Hopefully this tide will turn on the airwaves soon, but we shall see as we all know who runs the MSM.

  147. […] The Unz Review: Cheerleading for Israel. Everyone’s doing it By PHILIP GIRALDI. But if there … […]

  148. JIm Kapor says:
    @Mark Green

    Thanks a million, Mr. Green! I could never put it better than simply re-writing your points. However, rest assured of this: The Zionists’ time of dragging America by the nose is up. They will pay for all of their crimes, and be stripped of all the wealth they accumulated by deceptive means.

  149. Trump should make a deal with Bibi: recognize that Jerusalem will be always and forever united and Israeli, in exchange for clearing out enough Jewish settlements to give the Palestinians a contiguous area for a homeland in the West Bank. Give the Pals autonomy — limited independence with no military, as security would be provided by the UN. Can we trust the crazies not to shoot rockets into Israel? Hell no. Would we expect the Muslims to give part of Mecca for to the Jews? Those Arabs remaining in East Jerusalem can accept Israeli citizenship or emigrate, with fair compensation for their lost property.

    • Replies: @anon
  150. @Druid

    I welcome and congratulate you on your civility! Apart from the presumption in favour of anyone with your moniker that we share genes you are also exempted from suspicion – properly I think attached to one four letter moniker – that you caused the 24 hour interruption to my posting that was achieved by manipulation of a spam filter!

  151. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    “Yet, Jews don’t tell the whole story, while 30% of whites owned slaves when it was “legal”, 70% of JEWISH FAMILIES OWNED SLAVES, as well as owned many of the salve ships and slave trading companies.”

    The figure tjm quoted (70% of Jewish families owned slaves) is accurate according to Professor Tony Martin who informs us that this information comes from Jewish sources.

    The only reason I’m familiar with this information is thanks to another Unz commenter, who posted a video of Professor Tony Martin giving a presentation on the topic of: Jewish tactics as exemplified in the controversy over Jewish involvement in the transatlantic slave trade.

    Here’s the background he provided on the controversy before he introduced the tactics wielded by the Jewish Lobby:

    And what that book did, relying primarily on sources written by Jews (Jewish sources of a variety of different types) that book tried to synthesize the existing information of Jewish involvement in the slave trade, the bringing of Africans slaves from Africa to the so-called New World. There wasn’t that much in the book that was new in the sense that all the information, practically, was secondary information which had already been published, although it had been hidden away to a large extent in very esoteric Jewish journals which the average Jew, I discovered later, had no idea about.

    Nevertheless it wasn’t new information. It was new to many people, including myself, and I found it very interesting that I had taught African-American history for many years but had only been dimly aware of the role of Jews in that slave trade. What I discovered was that the Jewish role in that slave trade had been very cleverly camouflaged for many, many years. Where Jews were involved they tended not to be identified as Jews, whereas where Christians were involved, where Muslims were involved, there was ready identification of such persons by their ethnicity, by their religious affiliation, and so on. In the case of Jews, they would be called other things: Portuguese, Spanish, Brazilian, whatever. But that crucial identification tended to be obscured. So, as a good professor… I’m always on the lookout for new information to enrich my classes. So I was very fascinated by this new information and decided to add a few readings from this book to my class. And that’s when, as the saying goes, all hell broke loose.

    Prof. Martin was able to distill the following list of tactics from his subjective interactions with the Jewish Lobby over the course of 9 or 10 years:

    Jewish tactics as exemplified in the controversy over Jewish involvement in the transatlantic slave trade:

    1. Their proclivity to tell lies
    2. Their proclivity towards attempting to damage one professional credibility
    3. Dirty tricks
    4. Going for the economic jugular
    5. Great presumptuousness
    6. A tendency to sidestep the real issues
    7. A tendency to introduce “men of straw”
    8. Their ability to plant misinformation on the record and then to use that information as though it was some kind of well documented primary source
    9. Use of quislings, surrogates, and Uncle Toms
    10. Their ability to leverage off of the influence which they undoubtedly have in high places
    11. Their tendency on occasion to shoot themselves in the foot
    12. Their use of the major media
    13. The use of organizations (e.g., ADL)
    14. The unseemly histrionics
    15. They try to pin a nickname on you
    16. Their very good at a good cop/bad cop kind of a thing
    17. They try to play you for a fool
    18. Their propensity for hate mail
    19. Tendency towards violence

    According to Prof. Martin, the Lobby attempted to use tactic #15 against Minister Farrakhan:

    Minister Louis Farrakhan from The Nation of Islam made a slip. He was talking about the fact that about 75% of Jewish households in 1830 owned slaves. But he got it kind of wrong, you know. As one often does in the midst of a speech, a little slip of the tongue. When he said it came out as Jews own 75% of the slaves. It was obviously a slip of the tongue. But every time they mentioned him since, they always put that sound bite in to make it look like he was this great distorter of the truth. Here was, you know, Minister Farrakhan saying Jews on 75% of the slaves and so on.

    I’m afraid you owe tjm an apology, as the statistic that 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is historical fact.

    P.S. I highly recommend viewing the video. It is highly entertaining.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Chuck Orloski
  152. Miro23 says:

    They now believe that if they succeed in forcing Trump’s resignation or impeachment they will return to power in whatever new government formulation is put in place, so they continue to pile on.

    Somewhat counter intuitively, it would be in the Jewish ethnic minority interest to welcome Donald Trump and actively help him to “Make America Great Again”. He condemns anti-Semitism and has a strong positive attitude towards Israel, choosing to ignore that country’s racist and expansionist policies.

    Trump is not a “facade Goy” like Clinton, but he is offering US Jews a shared and honorable place in his project. It would surely be better for them to take it, and accept that they have reached the high water mark of economic and political power obtainable through racial patronage in a Democracy.

    The reality is that taking down Trump would have little potential upside and plenty of potential downside, but it ‘s probably driven by short sighted anger at the US public rejection of their chosen Presidential candidate ( in other words, the challenge to their power).

    • Replies: @mcohen
  153. Good 4Trumm. Great him.
    Now just show filling the 2nd line of Trummism to lock the worst colonial ideology that play diabolic issue of humanity.

    And to survive normal norms in globe. Yeah. Fortunately there is equilibrium to balance bad behaviour. Everything has a limit, here n there. Dont worry. Natural energy.

  154. Seraphim says:
    @Corvinus

    It is the truth of the Christ who is THE TRUTH, THE WAY AND THE LIFE, in his own words. Necessarily then, the religion that he brings to the world is better than that of his enemies. It’s not God who is on ‘our side’, we are on the side of God and his enemies not. We know better, because he told us the truth:

    “O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: 26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? 27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself “(Luke 24:25-27).

    “And he took it, and did eat before them. 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things” (Luke 24:43-48).

    • Replies: @mcohen
    , @Corvinus
  155. @Sam Shama

    I han’t noticed the absence of the Rehmst syndicate from UR comments. But it has been absent for a long time now. Perhaps a PR professional gave its organisers a bit of good advice based on its doing the Islamic cause actual harm.

  156. mcohen says:
    @Miro23

    the bullshit about trump,the idiot puntits who promote this circus have failed to realize that the smokescreen created by this bullshit(no other word to describe it)…….the burning of said manure has hidden the rise of the generals since the middle of last year.
    there you have it….one game is being played on one level and another on a different level.it would be wise to pay attention to people like generals and staff dunford,mattis,scaparrotti to name a few.it is amost as if the political class has become a sideshow for the masses.
    the last 10 years of warfare have given rise to military leaders with degrees from university and combat experience.that is what has changed…..the leadership post vietnam is a scholar and a warrior.
    however ,the weapons systems,the technology have changed the end game.dropping the bomb is worlds away,that end game is gone forever.and here is the problem…..the end game has become for the first time unknowable.no matter what rules one lays down on the battlefield there is a chance,a twist of fate,is a good word to describe it,that the end game can change and the result could be catastrophic for both sides.the question has to be asked then can any army afford full scale warfare.or do we make do with managed regional contained clashes.do these scholar/warriors have the vision to manage the end game without mutual destruction.?
    have we finally reached the era where we have no other choice but to turn swords into ploughshares.

    3 companions,7 falling stars,the earth shall open,an ancient river shall flow again.

  157. mcohen says:
    @Seraphim

    seraphim

    as a seaonal jew.summer for work,winter for praying i get christianity and islam and all the other relegions,i really do.belief is good .

    but you need to fully fully grasp one very very very important point.there are billions of human beings and many ,many different relegions and no one relegion is better than the other.as i have said before survival comes first and relegion gives you the will and intent to survive.
    one single universal relegion,adopted by all of humanity simply does not exist.do you fully grasp what this means…….no one single relegion is better than another.embrace it because ……….if we were all the same,no one would make a difference.(TM)

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  158. Seraphim says:
    @mcohen

    As long as you think that religions are just human creations, no one is better than the others. But if religions are revealed by various gods of different levels of divinity (‘celebrating difference’) then, of course, a hierarchy established itself. And when a religion is revealed by the supreme God, then it is the best. If you do not believe in God there is no point in comparing the respective merits of religions at all. You are endowed with the freedom to pursue happiness and invent the religion that makes you feel good and happy.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @mcohen
  159. annamaria says:
    @Corvinus

    Cannot live without insulting others, particularly when spotting a female name? So very courageous of you.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  160. Corvinus says:
    @Art

    Truth in this context as the Word of God, which is religious philosophy.

    “No question, my philosophy of truth seeking is superior to your inferior Jew philosophy of endless lie telling.”

    There is significant doubt here, considering your version of religious philosophy is other than superior.

  161. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “I’m afraid you owe tjm an apology, as the statistic that 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is historical fact.”

    Try again.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/

    “Martin, in one of his endorsements, made a startling assertion concerning slave ownership by Jews: “Using the research of Jewish historians, the book suggests that based on the 1830 census, Jews actually had a higher per capita slave ownership than for the white population as a whole.” The Secret Relationship does in fact approach making that suggestion, and since the claim would appear to be a pivotal one, it is worth examining.

    In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact.

    In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

    Moreover, Professor Martin made this accusation –> Rhode Island Jewish merchants controlled between 60 and 90 percent of the American trade in African slaves.

    Indeed, from 1709-1807, there are 934 recorded voyages in which Rhode Island merchants were responsible for procuring 106,000 slaves. Now, Jews arrived in Newport as early as 1658. On the eve of the Revolution, they were estimated to be around thirty families. According to historical records used (e.g. naval office shipping lists, censuses, tax records) that identified merchants and planters as Jewish, there were 347 slave ships sent to Africa by Rhode Island slave traders from 1761-1774, with 21 being funded by Aaron Lopez, a Portuguese Jew. That means 326 voyages were underwritten by non-Jews during this time frame. Of course, Jews played a role in the peddling of human flesh. The extent in this particular case is nominal compared to other ethnic groups.

    Furthermore, I was led to believe by many of the fine posters on this blog that blacks can never be trusted with historical or scientific research due to their overall low IQ. Do you agree or disagree with their contention?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @geokat62
  162. Corvinus says:
    @Seraphim

    “It’s not God who is on ‘our side’, we are on the side of God and his enemies not.”

    I suggest NOT employing SJW logic here. If you are on the side of God, it was God Himself who called you to join Him. However, you brought to Him your list of enemies to justify His wrath against said enemies.

  163. Corvinus says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    “All I have to do is listen to Jews themselves to understand the ethnocentrism that is so common among them. Many Jews brag about their radicalism, which is little more than ethnic aggression disguised as altruism. Jewish dislike for white and Christian America is so out in the open, that it’s not worth debating, even with an honest person.”

    Project much?

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  164. iffen says:
    @Seraphim

    And when a religion is revealed by the supreme God, then it is the best.

    Once one makes the commitment to believing that the “original” Jewish God is “the” one true God, one can choose which variety of Judaism is the “original.” If you reject an “original” Judaism then one has to pick an update, whether that be a variety of Christianity, a variety of Islam or even the Joseph Smith brand, or any of the other hundreds that are available (some of which are no longer supported by the original vendors.)

    Could God not explain and explicate his original intent or did he change his mind and provide an update(s)? Those are the only two possibilities. If we go with the changed mind and updates, then one update is just as valid as any other.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  165. mcohen says:
    @Seraphim

    seraphim

    how many different relegions have you studied……1 maybe 2,most people probably none.
    how would you know which relegion has been chosen as the primo deluxo.
    there is no connection between G-d and relegion.none.zero.between man and G-d definitely a spiritual connection.relegion is just a guide,man made.no different to a language because that is what it is.a language with different dialects.some you never even knew existed.imagine billions of human beings and only a few you can speak the dialect.do you understand the story about the tower of babel.that happened a long time before christianity or islam.
    the spiritual dialect,the sacred language is as old as man himself.its all there in the old testament.you should read it sometime …….the stories give you a hint of a sacred dialect.
    seraphim is an angelic being.here ‘s one i wrote on a boat.and no,it has nothing to do with wicca.wrote it after the bali bombing.the attack by moslem extremists on christians in a hindu area.

    when day turns to night
    and angels do take flight
    when souls begin to burn
    let the brave stand firm
    come let us join together
    in a circle we shall stand
    to bring the light
    to shine upon this land

    The precise number of religions in the world is not known, but available estimates show the number to be about 4,300, according to Adherents.com. Only two religions can claim more than one billion adherents each. Christianity has approximately 2 billion and Islam 1.3 to 1.5 billion believers.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  166. Rurik says:
    @Paul C.

    I’ve noticed Chuck Baldwin revealing the truth.

    he seems like the only one

    there’s an amiable lunatic out there called Brother Nathanial, who was raised Jewish but now is an uber-Christian, and he’s an eccentric, but I’ve watched a few of his videos, and he tells more truth about Zionism and Jewish intrigue and treachery than all the Christian preachers and ministers put together.

    Occasionally I’ll tune in to the Christians on the radio or television just to get a dose of what they’re shilling, and invariable they’re reading from scripture as if Jesus Christ is a war monger and proponent of slaughtering Palestinians, (His modern day relatives no less) in particular and Muslims in general. They say ‘Israel’ with all the Biblical intonations of reverence that should be applied to the principles of peace and decency (love, kindness, justice, forgiveness etc..), but instead they apply it to the name, with deliberate and calculated results; [Christian fealty to the current- and murderous- Jewish state]

    We have to include medical (repressed cures), pharmaceutical (treat symptoms only), food (GMO), water (fluoride), education (heliocentric model), history (lies regarding all wars), aerospace (fake NASA), energy (repressed breakthroughs such as ‘free energy’) and legal system (Maritime corp law vs Common law).

    yes, it’s daunting how bad things are. I don’t necessarily blame ‘the Jews’ for all of that. There’s tons and tons of Gentile corruption and venality to be sure, but the Zionist Jews aren’t helping much, and it seems like their control of our money supply is an insidious plague that corrupts everything else from the top down.

    They control Freemasonry (based on the Kabbalah) which is the system used to control society through the courts, police and brain washing via music industry and Hollywood.

    I was recently asked to join the Masons, and I started reading about it. It turns out there’s this Jesus like figure, a one Hiram Abiff, who’s this Jewish martyr who they all honor and hold up as the moral paragon of their world view.

    Anyways, I didn’t join.

    The rabbit hole is deep. We need a mass awakening.

    yep

    End the Fed !

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Paul C.
  167. @geokat62

    “According to Professor Tony Martin, the Lobby tried to use tactic # 15 (‘try to pin a nickname on you) against Minister Louis Farrakhan.”

    Dear geokat62:
    I appreciate your having introduced the heavily attacked historical/political thought of Louis Farrakhan which would likely have forced even the outspoken & martyred Dr. Martin Luther King to make retreat into a less sensitive subject. Thank you!

    As the Sam Shama, Corvinus & iffen Censorship Trio struggles to take Mr. Giraldi’s excellent and daring article off topic, I ask you to please look at the David Duke video, below, that describes the “shocking” Jewish role in slavery business. (F.Y.I., there is a Part II)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg

    Within the “comment “thread of a past Unz Review article by P. Giraldi, you might recall how Sam Shama branded me, in an excellent C.D.C.-style, as “a viral bacterial strain.” But now & thanks to Lil’ iffen, I got demoted to being merely called “woodchuck.” Humph — why did I get demoted?

    Sam the Sham’s “knowledge” is of the most deceptive kind, and yet he still fails to recognize that I can smell the sulfur exhausting from his comments and I know what he is. (Thanks Hugo Chavez, R.I.P.!)

    As Shama recently named David Duke to the top of his “Thought-Crime-To-Immediately-Censor” list, along with Kevin McDonald, I am sincerely anxious to see what name he might give to Louis Farrakhan who just might be a (non-advertised) “Cheerleader” for Mr. Giraldi’s thought process.

    Thanks gekat62, continue to be unflappable while we could do so!

    post scriptum: Thanks to Wally for the quote, “there’s no business like Shoah business.’

  168. @iffen

    Reason the Zios have concentrated on Syria, rather than Iran, post-Iraq is simple: completing the theft of the Golan Hgts for Genie Energy & the PROFITZ! beneath

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israel-grants-illegal-oil-rights-inside-syria-to-murdoch-and-rothschild/5517488

    Anything else you’d like to know, hasbara-boy?

  169. @Corvinus

    “I was led to believe by many of the fine posters on this blog that blacks can never be trusted with historical or scientific research due to their overall low IQ. ”

    Corvinus,

    Although I do not believe that I qualify to be among what you described as “fine posters,” I do not have any clue as to the level of Minister Louis Farrakhan’s IQ, but I am aware about his daring thought & the Minister’s having gotten the attention of The Times of Israel. Refer to the very well written article “linked” below.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/farrakhan-lying-murderous-zionist-jews-behind-911/

    A question, Corvinus? By any chance, do you know of a despotic research institute available on the internet that publishes (Jewish approved) current event history? For example, maybe one called… Fraud Trash ’em. Please let me know and thank you!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  170. Z-man says:
    @Z-man

    BTW great picture of that ‘weasel’ Levy.

  171. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    Can we trust the crazies not to shoot rockets into Israel?

    Can we trust the stupidities of you are not actually coming from the killer IDF ?

    Trump should look back and analyze what devastated German UK, and Russia . It was the International Jewry now known as Neocons America is on the chopping blocks . It will face same fate .To add Kosher salt to the injuries ,neocons will blame America as they gleefully blamed Britain Germany and Russia.

    They even went to India and Indonesia and told the gullible how Zionist freed Palestine from the colonizing Britain

  172. Corvinus says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    “I ask you to please look at the David Duke video, below, that describes the “shocking” Jewish role in slavery business…”

    What you ought to be doing is writing a cogent rebuttal to my points that address gekat62’s claims rather than link to an extremist like Farrakhan.

    Interesting how he, as a radical black Muslim, is cited to call into question the past history and current motivations of a dangerous group…when he himself is part of a dangerous group frequently called out for his own past history and current motivations.

  173. @Corvinus

    I did note that it’s not even worth debating with an honest person. With you, I understand that I’ll get nothing but nonsense replies.

  174. Sam Shama says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Hey Ronald,
    Good to see you back! Slightly OT, but what do you make of all these WikiLeaks dumps?

    I am fine with Wikileaks doing things like this. The more transparency the better! However, I have one important question: why isn’t Wikileaks doing something similar with the really no-nonsense authoritarian regimes out there like China, Russia, Turkey, et al? For that matter, why aren’t they doing something similar with Britain, France, South Korea ? Is the US the only nation-state whose abuse of power needs to be unmasked? Doesn’t that just leave us more vulnerable than the others?

    For the longest time, I had my doubts that Russia was behind all this, but I am beginning to change my mind.

    If anyone still has doubts that Wikileaks and the Russians are working together to undermine and destabilise our government institutions, erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in our country, this latest document dump should erase all doubt. We are under attack by an adversarial nation, with a President here at the helm who seems not to take any of this seriously.

    Spy agencies spy, this should come as no shock — this is how they infiltrate potential terrorist plots against America and keep us safe. We are less safe today thanks to Wikileaks and Assange’s unholy alliance with Putin.

  175. “What you ought to be doing…”

    Spat… phhooey!

    Look, Corvinus… do you think you are my wife and can tell me what to do?

    America is already filled with prejudiced & highly paid ideologues who try and tell people how to think and what to do. They menace the entire nation, and I definitely do not need you to arrogantly tell me, “to write a cogent response that address geokat62’s claims.”

    Worthy of such monumental task, maybe “geokat62” will try and remove the boulder that’s keeping your closed mind within a New City of Jerusalem tomb? Not me this time.

    Also, you arrogantly called Minister Farrakhan a “Radical Black Muslim” and is “part of a dangerous group.” If the dangerous group you refer to is those who like P. Giraldi’s stuff, & those who completely reject P. Zelikow’s “9-11 Report” and have read Christopher Bollyn’s book “Solving 9-11,” you can count me in as being a Radical Caucasian-Byzantine Christian.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  176. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama

    Hey Sam,

    Glad you reached out to RTW. His perspective has been missed here at the UR. One of the more intelligent and knowledgeable contributors to be sure. (even if we didn’t always agree ; )

    why isn’t Wikileaks doing something similar with the really no-nonsense authoritarian regimes out there like China, …

    well Sam, that just might possibly be because China (and Russia and all those other nations you mention) are not driving the planet to the brink of nuclear war. It is the ZUSA that is doing that, and there are a lot of people who would prefer that they stop it, and start acting like a sane nation, rather than a Zio-crazed, murderous asshole on the world’s stage.

    Sure, England and N. Korea have their warts, and can be a problem, but the regime that’s been savaging nation after nation, and has been destroying entire countries in the Middle East and on Russia’s border, is the ZUSA.

    So it makes a ton of sense for Wikileaks, (and all the rest of us) to concentrate on the source of the problem. And that problem has been the ZUSA, not Russia.

    In fact, if you want to know why there’s been so much saber rattling at Putin’s Russia, this is why 😉

    http://russia-insider.com/en/netanyahu-demands-summit-putin-after-russia-iran-ruin-israels-plan-syria/ri19126

    http://presstv.com/Detail/2017/02/24/511832/Israel-Netanyahu-Golan-Heights-Syria

    so you see Sam..

    .. it isn’t that Wikileaks is working for Russia, but rather it’s the entire sane world that is on Russia’s side, while the Zio-deep state tries desperately to conflate all criticism with the ZUSA’s serial atrocities with being Putin’s agents.

    ~ Rurik (secret agent of Vlad Putin)

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  177. annamaria says:

    “We are under attack by an adversarial nation…” Danger! Existential danger!!! Is this why the US has increased the number of military bases (to some 800-1000) around the globe during the last decades and is this why the US has conducted numerous regime changes and other “humanitarian interventions” around the globe, including a coup d’etat next door to the Russian federation?
    You are directly insinuating that Russians “erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in our country..” – are you serious? Russia was a powerless, wounded state after the dissolution of the USSR; at this very time the US has been directing certain policies, both internally and abroad, that did indeed “erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in our country..” For instance, have you noticed that people lost their confidence in the government of Cheney and John Yoo? … Actually, what is “your” country?
    For example, the enormous national debt (re “havoc in our country”) is not related at all to either a renovation of infrastructure or to universal health care that the US sorely needs. Nothing came from the general desire to have the universal care, even during the last 8 years under the rule of a charming faux peace laureate. Again, what is “your” country?
    It is insulting how you treat the UnzReview readers by first implanting, softly, an idea that you “beginning to change your mind” re the Russian influence (really?) and then going a full force of victimhood (“our” poor country suffering terribly from the “erosion of confidence” and “havoc” because of bad Russians). And how come that nothing and nobody is worse for you than Assange (who stands fearlessly for the accountability from the state) and Putin (caring for the well-being of his country.) But Clintons, Obama, and Bibi and Saudis are, of course wonderful; they produce no erosion in “public confidence in our government” and no “havoc.”
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/08/the-united-states-and-the-russian-devil-1917-2017/

    • Agree: geokat62
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  178. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    ” We are less safe today thanks to Wikileaks and Assange’s unholy alliance with Putin.

    You must be kidding! What is making America, and all Western democracies and the world less safe, is America’s unholy alliance with Israel and international Jewry.

    Evidently you didn’t read Philip Giraldi’s
    ” Cheerleanding for Israel” post.

    Maybe you can learn something by reading the comments on why we should stop cheerleading for Israel and the treasonous American Zionists.

    Mr. Sam the Sham …. please stop trying to divert the subject away from Israel.

    Keith

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  179. Paul C. says:
    @Rurik

    Brother Nathaniel is quite good. He and Henry Makow seem to be following the foot steps of other truth tellers of jewish background, Myron Fagan and Benjamin Freedman. They’re excellent.

    Christian ministers on TV and the radio are most likely charlatans, focused on running a business and are unlikely of the faith.

    I fully agree that those who control the money supply control society. Like the FED in the US, the central banks of the world are controlled by Jews. Unfortunately many of these private bankers follow the Talmud. I’m coming to the realization that the Talmud is akin to Satanism. And satanic influence is permitting society and corrupting it.

    The CDC is supposedly a watchdog agency making sure medicine is safe. In fact it’s a corporation, like every other federal agency, just look them all up in Dun and Bradstreet. The CDC executives are profiting from the use of vaccines and withholding information on their safety.

    Although I’ve never been religious nor believed in satan, I’m starting to see things differently. There’s many wonderful jews but those controlling society are believers in which looks to be an evil doctrine, the Talmud. Where child sacrifice and rape is okay. Think about the pedophilia problem that exists at the highest levels of all societies. Coincidence, likely not.

    The Vatican seems to be equally corrupt and working side by side working with the Rothschilds. Freemasonry is the satanic system of control. Most politicians are masons. Just look at Merkel flashing her hand signs at every chance she gets.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=merkel+hand+signs&tbm=isch&imgil=22y7foLvuFdbqM%253A%253BdrxQ4-6QzA4FwM%253Bhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fforum.davidicke.com%25252Fshowthread.php%25253Ft%2525253D256575&source=iu&pf=m&fir=22y7foLvuFdbqM%253A%252CdrxQ4-6QzA4FwM%252C_&usg=__jtIKt7lHIVjqi5vzdQ4uksnDZvI%3D&biw=1522&bih=912&ved=0ahUKEwjOpfDIycfSAhWKrlQKHfeTA2sQyjcIJQ&ei=YlLAWM7sMIrd0gL3p47YBg#imgrc=22y7foLvuFdbqM:

    These politicians are under the thumb of the Rothschilds and have no allegiance to the nation they serve. This is why Obama’s legacy is no different than Bush. More wars in the Middle East that the American public doesn’t support. The media obfuscates, misleads and promotes these conflicts as they are a tool of the system of control.

    The people of the world are starting to realize they have no power and are enslaved. Europeans don’t want mass immigration but the politicians in control are allowing it. And no one is talking about why there’s an immigration problem, which is the result of the West’s relentless bombing of the Middle East as a result of the 9/11 false flag. The zionist system of control is driving this.

    Ending the Fed would be an amazing first step but no one is focused on it. 99% don’t understand the Fed or how money is created and this is not an accident. This is exactly what the system of control intended. It’s an uphill fight but forums such as this and the internet give us a chance.

  180. Svigor says:

    “Jesus said “the truth will set you free.” I am telling the truth about a very bad tribe of people.”

    No, you are telling YOUR version of the truth. And by essentially saying that God is on your side against the “enemy”, you fall prey to the “my religion is better than your religion” phenomenon.

    See? A leftist. Not just a leftist, but a boring leftist.

    Any religion worth a man’s time says it’s the One True Way. Just like leftism does.

    “Yet, Jews don’t tell the whole story, while 30% of whites owned slaves when it was “legal”, 70% of JEWISH FAMILIES OWNED SLAVES, as well as owned many of the salve ships and slave trading companies.”

    You are a liar.

    Pot calls kettle black, film at 11. Corvanus finally makes a substantive comment, that includes something more than his own hot air and assertions. And it’s…in defense of the Jews.

    I’m shocked, shocked I tell you. Corvanus frequently throws European colonialism of the (often distant) past in Unzers faces, but I have never once seen him acknowledge, much less object to, ongoing Jewish colonialism in Palestine.

    Where is the oldest synagogue in America? AFAIK, it’s in Charleston, SC. What was it built with? Money from Jewish slavers.

    A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact.

    Most drug dealers have lived in towns and cities, too. Because that’s where the trade is.

    Same with slavery. It doesn’t exactly assault the senses, imagining the wheeling, dealing, retailing Jews as wheeling, dealing, and retailing slaves.

    Not for Christians who white and non-whites.

    Corvanus is a busy boy – far too busy for complete sentences.

    “but I don’t care at all for the Jewish collective, culture, power structure homeland, or anything associated.”

    That is your cross to bear.

    What an enlightening comment, Corvanus. Give us more.

    In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.

    Jews have been concentrated in urban areas for like 2,000 years. Time to acknowledge it as a fundamental part of their HBD. It’s sure as fuck no excuse for their slave-owning and -trading.

    What a pathetic excuse.

    It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

    So, point made: a llloooot of Jews owned slaves. “Yeah but that’s because we were rich!” Yeah, great excuse there, buddy.

    Furthermore, I was led to believe by many of the fine posters on this blog that blacks can never be trusted with historical or scientific research due to their overall low IQ. Do you agree or disagree with their contention?

    We’ve been led to believe, by leftists like you blaring from every minaret 24/7/365 for the last fifty years, that blacks are eminently capable; do you agree or disagree?

  181. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    Hey Rurik,
    States compete for security. Some do so more offensively while others are relatively defensive; most of the relatively defensive nations are also structurally limited in the sense that their objective to maximise security competition is limited by factors mainly related to resource constraints of one degree or another.

    Most do not stop to ponder questions such as: Why do states want power? How much? And, what are the causes of war?

    These are not questions easily addressed through any appeal to morality or idealism alone. In fact, doing so would be tragically trivial. You, among a few, might appreciate a read:

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/StructuralRealism.pdf

    Vlad Putin is no more evil or altruistic than any leader of a power structure constantly competing with other power structures. Forgetting that won’t do us any good.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  182. Svigor says:

    K, so Corvanus probably got his handle from “Michael Corvinus,” the cheesy, cliched half-blood “unite the houses” hero from a cheesy, cliched series of vampire movies. So he’s probably a half-blood, too. And since he’s finally broken down and fully revealed his Jewish sympathies (big suprise, no, really), one half is probably Jew.

    What’s the other half, Corvy? Negro? It needs to be non-White, because otherwise the half-blood hero thing wouldn’t reach comment handle status.

    Or are your kids the mutts?

  183. Corvinus says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    “Look, Corvinus… do you think you are my wife and can tell me what to do?”

    If elites, especially Jews, are a menace, and all you do is talk tough on a blog, rather than get in the game to change things, are you not to blame for the plight of today’s American white men and women?

    “America is already filled with prejudiced & highly paid ideologues who try and tell people how to think and what to do. They menace the entire nation, and I definitely do not need you to arrogantly tell me, “to write a cogent response that address geokat62′s claims.”

    That would take intellectual horsepower on your part. Perhaps your engine is sputtering. Take a break and get back to me.

    “Worthy of such monumental task, maybe “geokat62″ will try and remove the boulder that’s keeping your closed mind within a New City of Jerusalem tomb? Not me this time.”

    How is it a “closed mind” on my part when I offered counter evidence to his claim? You noblely came to his defense. The least you can do is try to muster up facts and figures to refute my statement.

    “Also, you arrogantly called Minister Farrakhan a “Radical Black Muslim” and is “part of a dangerous group.””

    It’s not arrogance, but fact. At least that is what a number of white folks say about the man, especially on the Alt-Right. Are they wrong in their assessment? In what way?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  184. Svigor says:

    Somewhat counter intuitively, it would be in the Jewish ethnic minority interest to welcome Donald Trump and actively help him to “Make America Great Again”. He condemns anti-Semitism and has a strong positive attitude towards Israel, choosing to ignore that country’s racist and expansionist policies.

    Nah. Read the story of the princess and the pea. The princess bitches about the pea because she can. She’s got it that good. Jews are in a similar position. Everybody is eager to do their bidding on Israel, so nobody really earns anything by doing likewise – they only earn enmity by failing to do so.

    Jews can afford to be picky.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  185. Sam Shama says:
    @annamaria

    Well, your country is Russia. Mine is the United States. It’s of no use refuting either, especially on an internet forum.

    The USSR failed for one simple reason: it was economically incapable of corralling an agenda which proved far too ambitious for its resource constraints. Period. This despite the massive state propaganda and suppression of free speech, thought manipulation and a muzzled press. Yes, I am fully aware that you’d call our’s presstitutes etc, but look a bit closely and a different picture will start to emerge. The freedom of our press is absolute compared to the one you grew up with. Our MSM from aloft, presents a perspective perhaps somewhat compromised by special interests – all of which compete for power – yet there are many non-MSM sites, UNZ being a stellar one, Breitbart another, all publishing exactly what they want without fear. Putin, on the other hand, prefers Polonium for his detractors.

    I would ask you to not to trouble your sensitive faculties with our national debt [try to engage in things more naturally suited; have you considered baking, e.g.?] a matter which the international debt market has resoundingly spoken for. American assets are more in demand than ever and I won’t even bother speaking of your’s in the same context. The havoc [a figure of speech] in our country, I spoke of, is the increasing distrust between peoples in the coasts and the interior, of lumping all immigrants from Mexico as criminals etc. This too shall pass and the robust strengths of the republic, prevail.

    So in summary, my dear lady, your peripatetic cutting-and-pasting crusade impresses me not all that much.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @Sam Shama
    , @Anon
  186. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    You are not sincere in claiming your loyalty: your loyalty belongs to Israel (though it is quite possible that you live in the US).
    You obviously wanted to demonstrate (kind of strenuously) that you also loyal to the US by listing all the wonderful powerful things about the “the robust strengths of the republic” (which was quite entertaining, thank you). Relax. The readers have got your ways of thinking already.
    As for your expression of American victimhood, the Snowden 2.0 phenomenon is indeed very timely: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/08/americas-homegrown-assault-on-democracy/

    Here is difference between the two US dwellers: I care about accountability from the governments, international law, and world peace. You are passionate about Israel and, as a consequence, about the US hegemony by any means; the latter passion is not healthy in our times of nuclear arsenals.

    PS: “The havoc [a figure of speech]” is popular among the former Soviets in Israel.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  187. Sam Shama says:
    @Sam Shama

    Must say our POTUS whom I support, has begun to assert his scrutiny with this tweet I’d missed:

    For eight years Russia “ran over” President Obama, got stronger and stronger, picked-off Crimea and added missiles. Weak! @foxandfriends

  188. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Putin’s detractors are many (in absolute though not in relative terms) and most remain, depending on your point of view, depressingly or hearteningly polonium-free.

    Media in the U.S. is indeed free –to an extent– but to disbelieve in our own polonium analogues, now or during the Cold War, is rather naive.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  189. Seraphim says:
    @mcohen

    It is no good to study too many. It makes you mcincoherent.

  190. Sam Shama says:
    @Svigor

    Jews have traditionally been liberal in their outlook; call it the result of knowing the pitfalls of many other systems from rather close a view. Cosmopolitanism e.g. has historically corresponded with urbanity and education. Yet, there are many Jews with worldviews remarkably conservative, or libertarian or constructive and, not to belabour a simple point, have you noticed the Jews working for Trump [including his family]? My point being, as a relatively well-educated and industrious group they find themselves invariably in positions of some impact. That your interlocutor finds jews to be a confounding lot, of disparate ideologies, not stand in contradiction to your other position of Jews possessing a hive mind? E.g. when many assert that Jews of the diaspora speak with one voice?
    I understand your intentions, though….

  191. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    I don’t disbelieve in our own analogues as you put it; my objection I wish noted, is mainly to counter the proposition that somehow Mr Putin approaches U.S. affairs with an entirely defensive, if not a benevolent eye. I’ll wager the man is most likely celebrating the politicalt chaos in the U.S. over beluga and crystal.

    I am a realist.

  192. Sam Shama says:
    @annamaria

    Spare me the sanctimony; you flit around pushing Putin’s/Russian agenda and little else. The probability of nuclear war is basically nil. Strifes are going to be initiated, fought and resolved via other methods.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  193. Seraphim says:
    @iffen

    The ‘update’ was brought by the Logos of God in person. He did explain his intentions and gave us a ‘testament’, setting some rules for us if we want to inherit the ‘Kingdom of God’.

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not… And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth…(John 1).

    “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) 3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ” 4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us”.(1 John, 1-10)

    So, there is a difference between the updates made by God himself and the ‘updates’ invented by humans however ‘spiritual’ and ‘inspired’ they might believe they were. They are not equally valid. The free market of religions had still to wait to cross the Ocean. But man had always the freedom to accept the inheritance or to renounce it. The ball is in his court.

  194. @Corvinus

    “Take a break and get back with me.”

    Corvinus,

    You offered up counter evidence… “The Atlantic Monthly?” W.T.F.? Were I geokat62, I’d tell you to stick an entire year’s subscription of that magazine up your ass.

    Don’t try to fuck with my mind, Corvinus, especially because I was the person, (using my actual name), and who “linked” the verboten David Duke presentation video which went deeply into the historical slave trade and not just the percentage of Jews (city or rural-based) who either owned or operated plantations with slaves.

    You are an asshole. I (Chuck Orloski) provided the David Duke video “link” for geokat62 to look at it and”CONSIDER,” and now you want to drag me into the Zionist “Alt Right” creation?

    Most importantly, here you are making multiple “off topic” comments on a concise & powerful article titled “Cheerleading for Israel.” And then you have the smelly balls to ask me, “are you not to blame for the plight of today’s white American men and women?”

    Your question was so absurdly bigoted that I was sincerely tempted to paraphrase a joke from the film “The Jerk,” starring Steve Martin, and shout in reply — “Hey Corvinus… I am no whitey, I am a nigger!” And what the fuck are you doing to “change things,” except of course the topic of P. Giraldi’s article?

    F.Y.I, this past February, The Nation of Islam “got into the (Jewish) game,” and hosted a discussion panel which included author, Christopher Bollyn. (Humph) I suppose you want me to “link” the conference’s transcripts and get me (at minimum) bounced from this Unz comment “Thread.”

    Let me end by making a sound offer which can not be rationally refused?

    Without a usury fee involved, I offer you, Sam The Sham, and iffen the following realistic political slogan that is based in historical FACT as to what sicko-Zionists have successfully done to the U.S.A. in little more than 1/2 of a century: Make Sodom and Gomorrah Great Again!

    Run with it, Corvy! Selah.

  195. Cortes says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    There’s an old word totally appropriate for BHL: mountebank.

    The Belgian anarchist Noel Godin (l’entarteur – cream pie thrower) knew that years ago even when BHL had hair. Here’s a link:

    Godin’s other victims include Bill Gates…

  196. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Try again.

    Seriously? I suggest you reread the excerpt of the article you posted a little more carefully to zero in on the crux of his argument:

    Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis.

    Instead of challenging the veracity of the statistic (75% of Jewish households owned slaves), the author of the article is rationalizing why it was as high as it was. And you consider that to qualify as a refutation? LOL

    Furthermore, I was led to believe by many of the fine posters on this blog that blacks can never be trusted with historical or scientific research due to their overall low IQ. Do you agree or disagree with their contention?

    Neither. While different ethnic groups may have different average IQ scores, any individual from any ethnic group could have a score that lies anywhere on a normal distribution. It is safe to say that Prof. Tony Martin has an IQ score that probably falls in the right tail of this distribution.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  197. KenH says:

    Cheerleading for Izzy will go on forever. And ever. Diaspora Jewry is so firmly ensconced in every facet of the American system that only a complete collapse whereby Jews lose most or all of their collective wealth could lead to a hard reset.

    Or an ultra white nationalist could miraculously come to power and enact a campaign of intense discrimination and dispossession against Jews similar to what the German national socialists enacted. Donald Trump is clearly not that man not that man given his slavish devotion to the Jewish people and Israel and his firm belief in multiracialism and wish to unite the disparate racial groups.

    The only silver lining is that Trump doesn’t hate whites or isn’t evil like most other politicians. But he will never make race based appeals to us as he as blacks and Latinos and any help or improvement in our situation will be coincidental.

  198. @Anon

    “Mr. Sam the Sham… please stop trying to divert the subject away from Israel.”

    Hey Anon (Keith),

    With SolontoCroesus and Rehmat down and not able to stomp on Sam the Sham, I want to say “good job” on your attempt to evoke some shame from him. Based upon his numerous comments, I too wonder if Sam the Sham even bothered to read P. Giraldi’s article.

    Right now, I admit to having let amateur “Corvinus” get me in a huff and now it’s time to pack, & convey to YOU a rather silent COERCIVE matter that tends to “stir up” the attention of average Americans — The National Football League, which has taken quite a strong tilt for Israel! I’ll explain & then pack-it-in for the evening.

    In today’s Wall Street Journal, page A3, there’s a column titled “NFL’s Raiders Closer to Move,” by Matthew Fetterman. First paragraph, “The N.F.L. has decided that Las Vegas is a viable N.F.L. city, a determination that gets the Oakland Raiders closer to moving there.” My first reaction was, “well those greedy m-fuckers now want to take the beloved Raiders away from Oakland’s diehard fans!”

    The article continued, “… the ‘Raiders’ (& that’s definitely not the traditional fan base) scrambled to secure financing for a proposed 65,000 seat domed stadium in Las Vegas that may cost as much as $1.9 billion.”

    Here comes the “special teams” “kicker” onto the field now: the article’s author Fetterman reported that, “Billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and investment bank Goldman Sachs Group Inc. pulled out of the project earlier this year, raising questions about whether the team could secure the needed funds.”

    Vegas show girl cheerleaders, “Let’s Make The (Corporate) Raiders Great Again!”

    Good night, anon (Keith)! Thank you.

    .

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  199. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    For the longest time, I had my doubts that Russia was behind all this, but I am beginning to change my mind.

    And I’m beginning to change my mind about you, Sam. This comment is truly insulting as it clearly shows the low regard in which you hold most goy.

    In terms of the list of tactics Prof. Tony Martin presented, here are the ones your comment makes use of (indicated by bolding):

    1. Their proclivity to tell lies
    2. Their proclivity towards attempting to damage one professional credibility
    3. Dirty tricks
    4. Going for the economic jugular
    5. Great presumptuousness
    6. A tendency to sidestep the real issues
    7. A tendency to introduce “men of straw”

    8. Their ability to plant misinformation on the record and then to use that information as though it was some kind of well documented primary source
    9. Use of quislings, surrogates, and Uncle Toms
    10. Their ability to leverage off of the influence which they undoubtedly have in high places
    11. Their tendency on occasion to shoot themselves in the foot
    12. Their use of the major media
    13. The use of organizations (e.g., ADL)
    14. The unseemly histrionics
    15. They try to pin a nickname on you
    16. They’re very good at a good cop/bad cop kind of a thing
    17. They try to play you for a fool
    18. Their propensity for hate mail
    19. Tendency towards violence

    If you have a shred of integrity, please present the verifiable, concrete, tangible evidence that has convinced you to change your mind… and it better be more convincing than the hitch’s top 10 list you cited earlier to support your argument that Iraq represented an existential threat to the US, instead of Israel.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @iffen
    , @geokat62
  200. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    You, among a few, might appreciate a read:

    http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/StructuralRealism.pdf

    What’s this? Sam Shama citing John Mearsheimer of Mearsheimer and Walt fame? Hell has just frozen over!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  201. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    To that end, here is a comment I’ve drafted that I intend to post on Justin Raimondo’s (of antiwar.com) next column:

    Well, needless to say, when I tried posting my comment on antiwar.com (I waited until midnight last night so it would receive top billing), it was quickly deleted.

    Just goes to show how legitimate most of these so-called anti war websites are. They are very leery of venturing into forbidden territory, lest they fall afoul of the thought police.

  202. Corvinus says:

    “You offered up counter evidence… “The Atlantic Monthly?” W.T.F.? Were I geokat62, I’d tell you to stick an entire year’s subscription of that magazine up your ass.”

    No, you defended geokat62. I offered material that clearly counters his claim. Rather than intelligently engage in discourse, instead of investigating this matter further, you merely dismissed the entire source. That is exactly the conduct of a radical (left or right) who relies on their confirmation bias to get them through. In this manner, it protects your world view. Any disruption would cause great consternation on your part. If you remember from your schooling, in a discussion, one must refute the statements provided.

    “Don’t try to fuck with my mind, Corvinus, especially because I was the person, (using my actual name), and who “linked” the verboten David Duke presentation video which went deeply into the historical slave trade and not just the percentage of Jews (city or rural-based) who either owned or operated plantations with slaves.”

    Before we go into the Duke presentation, focus on the evidence I provided. Find other sources that clearly calls into question what was written regarding geokat62’s position. Then we will be able to proceed.

    “You are an asshole. I (Chuck Orloski) provided the David Duke video “link” for geokat62 to look at it and”CONSIDER,” and now you want to drag me into the Zionist “Alt Right” creation?”

    No, you supported his initial assertion and used the video as further evidence of his points, which are now significantly compromised. It is time for you to own up to your responsibility rather than run away from discourse.

    “Most importantly, here you are making multiple “off topic” comments on a concise & powerful article titled “Cheerleading for Israel.” And then you have the smelly balls to ask me, “are you not to blame for the plight of today’s white American men and women?””

    If you are not out on the front lines everyday in the open to defeat the scourge of Jews, then indeed you are to blame. Calling out the manipulations of this group on a website without direct action shows impotence on your part.

  203. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “Instead of challenging the veracity of the statistic (75% of Jewish households owned slaves), the author of the article is rationalizing why it was as high as it was. And you consider that to qualify as a refutation? LOL”

    No, the author directly questioned that statistic and offered specific evidence to show that it is purposely misleading. It is now up to you to counter his statements with proof. That is, take the excerpt I provided and step by step show how and why it is other than accurate. Do you have the intellectual horsepower for such an endeavor?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  204. @geokat62

    Thanks Geo – you might also note that they have not replayed this article – they rarely do when it relates to Israel. I have noted lately that they less and less choose to replay my pieces and only then when it is safe subject matter like lambasting the US government. They are real chickenshit players and every time they do one of their pathetic whining fundraisers I fervently hope that they will come up so short that they will be silenced forever, enabling genuine critics of the status quo to take the lead.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Z-man
    , @Che Guava
  205. Z-man says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Yes, I was quickly banned from posting on disqus- [email protected]. A little frustrating but also humorous.

    Hello Mr. Giraldi. All the best!

  206. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    No, the author directly questioned that statistic and offered specific evidence to show that it is purposely misleading. It is now up to you to counter his statements with proof.

    No, it is up to you to provide proof the statistic, 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is wrong, not merely misleading, as you originally alleged.

    If 75% is the wrong statistic, surely you can tell us what the correct statistic is? Is it 50%, 40%, 30%, or is it 74%? If you reject the accuracy of a statistic, it behooves you to propose a more accurate statistic (and explain the reasons for its enhanced accuracy). Simply asserting it is wrong won’t do. You have to explain how much it is wrong by 25%, 35%, 45%, or 1%? So what do you propose as a replacement statistic, in place of 75%, for the percentage of Jewish households that owned slaves in 1830?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  207. Svigor says:

    Our Congress is influenced by a host of groups, from the Jews to black organizations to Fortune 500 Companies.

    Yeah, that about sums it up Corvy, well-said.

    Jews have a plurality of the power, though.

    Jews have traditionally been liberal in their outlook

    Nah. Faux leftist. Generally speaking, Jews are leftist when and where that’s best for the Jews, and rightist when and where that’s best. Jewish Supremacism is the term.

    call it the result of knowing the pitfalls of many other systems from rather close a view. Cosmopolitanism e.g. has historically corresponded with urbanity and education. Yet, there are many Jews with worldviews remarkably conservative, or libertarian or constructive and, not to belabour a simple point, have you noticed the Jews working for Trump [including his family]? My point being, as a relatively well-educated and industrious group they find themselves invariably in positions of some impact. That your interlocutor finds jews to be a confounding lot, of disparate ideologies, not stand in contradiction to your other position of Jews possessing a hive mind? E.g. when many assert that Jews of the diaspora speak with one voice?
    I understand your intentions, though….

    There are many, many Zionist Jews. They hold the majority of power among Jewry. Oddly, I can’t think of a single Jew who advocates for “Zionisms” for Europeans. Just think, all of those millions of Zionist Jews, very intelligent, very politically active, and so very diverse, and none of them has tumbled to “Zionisms” for Europeans yet! Jews are so good at forgetting the idea of “Zionisms” for Europeans, that you can remind them as many times as you like, and they’ll still forget about it after the conversation’s over, and need reminding again the next time you talk. It’s a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    There are other areas of agreement; lots of Jews who think Whites are the cancer of history, a la Sontag, but not so many who say that sort of thing about Jews. And this in an era of a bumper crop of Whites willing to disparage their own race.

    Whites would behoove themselves to pay more attention to Jewish behavior. Start pegging their behavior to Jews’; “yeah, I’ll talk trash on Whites when Jews start talking trash on Jews. I’ll support Israel when Jews start supporting Zions for Europeans. Etc.

    Must say our POTUS whom I support, has begun to assert his scrutiny with this tweet I’d missed:

    For eight years Russia “ran over” President Obama, got stronger and stronger, picked-off Crimea and added missiles. Weak! @foxandfriends

    Trump has been living rent-free in Hussein’s head for the better part of a year now. He’s given the Magic Mulatto several severe stuttering fits.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  208. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    [And I’m beginning to change my mind about you, Sam. ]

    No! Please say it ain’t so. Please Please!

    [it clearly shows the low regard in which you hold most goy.]

    That is your personal strawman, not mine; beat it to your heart’s content

    In terms of the list of tactics Prof. Tony Martin presented

    Never heard of “Prof” Tony Martin. He seems to be constructing a stupid laundry list of characteristics that can be applied to the entire human race, with one possible exception: a paragon of virtue amongst men, a true hellene and a canuck to boot.

    Tangible evidence for what? That Russia is possibly involved? Don’t make me laugh. Or please do, actually. Are you really that gullible? Do you think Russia plays for your interest or mine? Get serious. Does one need tangible evidence to see that the U.S. solely is getting targeted? Are you f*king blind? If Wikileaks is so damn concerned with transparency and all that why don’t they dump something on Russia, or China? Or are you claiming with “tangible evidence” that these nations are faultless?

    I prefer to believe the security agencies of the U.S. before I believe the KGB or its legacies. Why don’t you provide evidence that Wikileaks got all that material on it own without the active participation of a spy agency? If you believe that you’ll believe in the tooth fairy. Wait, do you? LOL.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  209. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Why shouldn’t I appreciate a piece when it deserves to be recognised? Reading the piece explained a great deal to me. You should read it as well if you haven’t already.

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Chuck Orloski
  210. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Here comes the “special teams” “kicker” onto the field now: the article’s author Fetterman reported that, “Billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and investment bank Goldman Sachs Group Inc. pulled out of the project earlier this year, raising questions about whether the team could secure the needed funds.”

    That’s the cue for you and your mates at Dunkin Donuts to step in and fill the vacuum, Woodchuck.

  211. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Here’s my previous comment:

    If you have a shred of integrity, please present the verifiable, concrete, tangible evidence that has convinced you to change your mind… and it better be more convincing than the hitch’s top 10 list you cited earlier to support your argument that Iraq represented an existential threat to the US, instead of Israel.

    I see you learned your lesson from the last time you endeavoured to make a convincing case that Iraq represented an existential threat to the US, instead of Israel? Instead of going down that comical path again, you wisely decided to stick to your old standby, diatribe.

    And here I thought you had come across some very incriminating evidence buried deep within “all these WikiLeaks dumps” that proves beyond any doubt that the evil Ruskies done did it. Fat chance.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Seraphim
  212. Slightly OT, but has anyone noticed that Amazon has stopped carrying Holocaust revisionism books? Must be the enormous pressure of the Evangelical Lobby. Can Kevin MacDonald’s books be far behind? Free speech is good speech, presumably.

  213. Sam Shama says:
    @Svigor

    There are many, many Zionist Jews. They hold the majority of power among Jewry. Oddly, I can’t think of a single Jew who advocates for “Zionisms” for Europeans. Just think, all of those millions of Zionist Jews, very intelligent, very politically active, and so very diverse, and none of them has tumbled to “Zionisms” for Europeans yet!

    If by Zionist you mean Israel holding a favoured nation status in their hearts then you are right. It might even be somewhat stronger than that, but really not substantially different than Irish or Italian Americans holding a special place in their hearts for the mother nation. I know what you mean by Jews not endorsing “Zionism” for Europeans. I can’t be dead sure of course, but I think they do; at least in principle in Israel. I reckon the general feeling in Israel is that Europeans after giving Israel so much hell at the U.N, for so many decades, should get a taste for the Arabs they so valiantly championed in their own drawing rooms. Just my sense, could be wrong.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  214. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Why shouldn’t I appreciate a piece when it deserves to be recognised?

    Oh, so this work by Mearsheimer deserves to be recognized, but not his other work he co-authored with Stephen Walt? I wonder why.

    Here is one of your previous comments:

    About M&W; they may be profs but they do not have the last word as you often seem to believe. They are agenda driven as much as the next academic, bound to surface with equally motivated causes to promote.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  215. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    You need to understand something mate: my visits here are not consumed by endeavours to convince you of anything or answer any questions you pose. In other words you are consumed by your own world, not I. You may have noticed that my original comments were directed at RTW and Rurik, not you, although you are free to pipe in, just as you did.

    And here is my previous answer to you. Let’s play the stupid game shall we [not]?

    Tangible evidence for what? That Russia is possibly involved? Don’t make me laugh. Or please do, actually. Are you really that gullible? Do you think Russia plays for your interest or mine? Get serious. Does one need tangible evidence to see that the U.S. solely is getting targeted? Are you f*king blind? If Wikileaks is so damn concerned with transparency and all that why don’t they dump something on Russia, or China? Or are you claiming with “tangible evidence” that these nations are faultless?

    You really are a disingenuous bloke and I don’t mind telling you that. Don’t talk to me about integrity wrapped in your holier-than-thou cloak. I don’t need to find any “incriminating evidence buried deep” in the Wikileaks dumps. Our security agencies are working on it as you may very well guess, ordinary citizens being obviously incapable of carrying out such investigations. But, the same ordinary citizens can apply their little grey cells and ask obvious questions, which I did and which as usual you ran away from. No one is asking for proof beyond any reasonable doubt, at least not from ordinary citizens at this point. But you seem to prefer Americans simply disregard questions leaping out in this whole drama. That is a subversive position, especially from a Canadian.

    Again, Why are their no dumps on Russia? Or China? Or do you think they are saints?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  216. Seraphim says:
    @geokat62

    @A tendency to sidestep the real issues

    This is actually the basic trick.
    “Ignoratio elenchi, also known as irrelevant conclusion, is the informal fallacy of presenting an argument that may or may not be logically valid, but fails nonetheless to address the issue in question. More colloquially, it is also known as missing the point”.

  217. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    If Sam writes:

    Tangible evidence for what? That Russia is possibly involved? Don’t make me laugh. Or please do, actually. Are you really that gullible? Do you think Russia plays for your interest or mine? Get serious. Does one need tangible evidence to see that the U.S. solely is getting targeted? Are you f*king blind?

    not a peep is heard.

    But if geokat62 or others write:

    Tangible evidence for what? That Israel is possibly involved? Don’t make me laugh. Or please do, actually. Are you really that gullible? Do you think Israel plays for your interest or mine? Get serious. Does one need tangible evidence to see that the U.S. solely is getting targeted? Are you f*king blind?

    the howls of antisemitism are heard far and wide.

    Interesting, how that works.

  218. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Oh, so this work by Mearsheimer deserves to be recognized, but not his other work he co-authored with Stephen Walt?

    Precisely so.

    Please oh please, why can’t narrow mindedness have limits?

    Do you love every film, every book, every painting, every poem by your favourite filmaker, writer, artist or poet? If you do, you belong to a special class of groupie partying on cheap drugs.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  219. @tjm

    Yes, there is no major difference between left and right besides some rhetoric. Do you have a source for Trump’s debt and his creditors?

    Trump is going to and is supporting the Israeli-Saudi axis against Iran. Hopefully that doesn’t include nuclear war with Russia.

  220. annamaria says:
    @Sam Shama

    Well, first, in response to the article about the malicious ziocons’ influence on the US policies, and specifically on the half-wit Levy’ activities, you have detoured to the alarming “We are under attack by an adversarial nation…Russians erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in our country..” Do you recognize your words? Then you insinuate other reader in “pushing Putin’s/Russian agenda” because the reader pointed to the alarmist tenor of your above statement.
    It is surprising that you do not demand the authorities’ attention to the “subversive” Unz Review site…

    For some obvious reason you have not noticed the following in the article: “On Sunday New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss “trade and security issues” without anyone complaining that he was in violation of the Logan Act, which apparently only applies if you are talking to Russians.” – Is this also “pushing Putin’s/Russian agenda?”
    Or that: “It is ironic that in the midst of a media and congressional feeding frenzy on foreign interference in the U.S., the one country in the world that consistently leads Washington by the nose is immune from criticism. The subservient role dutifully played by every U.S. president since JFK when dealing with Tel Aviv has resulted in defining United States national interests in terms of Israeli perceptions.” – Time to look for polonium under your bed?

    What about this well-deserved description: “Levy, who has described the brutal Israel Defense Forces as “a democratic army, which asks itself so many moral questions” and who was a war-on-Libya cheerleader, warns that Trump is a threat to all American Jews. Why? Because even though he has showered benefits on Israel his love for the Jewish people is “insufficient.” Levy explains, “This love is precisely what is required of an American president in dealings affecting Israel.”
    Not interested in discussing this scandalous situation? Or you are preparing to inform the readers, again, that “the robust strengths of the republic, prevail,” as if the readers need your cheerleading that smacks of State Dept. “expressed wisdom.”

  221. Tony says:

    Hey giraldi why dont you go move to iran.

  222. @Sam Shama

    Few, if any, Irish- or Italian-Americans conflate the interests of the “mother country” with the interests of America, or agitate for unconditional American intervention on behalf of those countries. Normal well-wishing for one’s distant ancestral heritage has nothing to do with it. There is a reason there is no Law of Return in Italy or Ireland.

  223. @Sam Shama

    Hi Sam

    I would politely (noting other comments) disagree. I expect what we are witnessing is a war within the national security state and a clique (likely NSA based) is determined to take the CIA down.

    Putin only need sit back and watch the USA tear itself apart.

    I read here at Phil’s column but mostly just keep to myself, prefer engaging other pursuits –

  224. mcohen says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    hi phil.giraldi

    “Those of us who voted for Donald Trump in hopes that he would turn out to be the peace candidate are facing disappointment.”

    the military industrial complex pays you a hefty sum to right these useless articles.have you considered a tom clancy type book to entertain the president jack ryan fans.there, gold in those hills my boy..

  225. @Ronald Thomas West

    pss, recalling wikileaks has promoted the use of tor in its leaks submissions, a USA Department of Defense developed & funded platform, points to the organization serving elements within the American national security state all along. I’ve been pointing this out for quite some time; but it is only with certain recent events we see more than the obvious Department of Defense funding:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/29/us-government-funding-tor-18m-onion-router

    https://wikileaks.org/wiki/WikiLeaks:Tor

    http://www.srnnews.com/child-porn-case-dropped-as-us-refuses-to-show-software-code/

    Now that tor is in the open as perfectly compromised by the USA security apparatus (immediate preceding link, above), one should presume this had been the case all along.

    Did Snowden know this? Note Snowden did not leak to WikiLeaks and did not use any online ‘secure’ system, notably tor or securedrop, but used USB external or flash drives. What did Snowden know? Coming from the NSA, recalling NSA is a department run by the Pentagon, it’s clear he knew better –

    Now, this all gets very sticky in the game of spy v spy, and internal competitions vs external espionage, and why I’ve tended to simply observe –

  226. […] Giraldi:  “Cheerleading for Israel”.  Note the comment on suspicious Zionism at […]

  227. @Sam Shama

    Sam the Sham,

    In your proliferating comments, I find zero (0) evidence that points to your having read “Cheerleading For Israel.”

    In fact, your 365-24/7 deceitful M.O. is to simply hunt down Unz Review “comments” which are unfavorable and do ham to criminal Israel’s doctored image.

    Therefore, to all commenters, I ask, “why would Sam the Sham have to take time to read Giraldi when his job only requires ‘blocking’ the words ‘passed’ to others who have also read, for one example, “Cheerleading for Israel”?

    As you know how the “woodchuck” riddle goes, a conclusion can be made that, I (“Woodchuck” Chuck Orloski) can not “chuck wood.” But as you well know, Sam the Sham, I can bite into P. Giraldi nourishing articles, and, as Jack Nicholson once famously said in Few Good Men, “you “can’t handle the truth” and you’re compelled (by Satan) to squash it.

    I know what you are. Very sad.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Sam Shama
    , @Seraphim
  228. @Ronald Thomas West

    That Ronald West article is unreadable shit. Not that Henri-Levy isn’t indeed despicable, but get an editor.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  229. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    Do you love every film, every book, every painting, every poem by your favourite filmaker, writer, artist or poet? If you do, you belong to a special class of groupie partying on cheap drugs.

    Absolutely true. But what does this have to do with a political analyst? Perhaps you’re suggesting that they too are artists of some form (the BS artist variety)? Here’s the difference, Sam. Unlike a filmmaker, (novel) writer, artist or poet, a political analyst is someone who has a tendency to write with objective integrity or someone who is “agenda driven,” as you so aptly put it. They tend not to be both. So either John Mearsheimer belongs in the former category or the latter category… he can’t be in both. So, which is it?

    • LOL: iffen
  230. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    [You need to understand something mate: my visits here are not consumed by endeavours to convince you of anything or answer any questions you pose.]

    That goes without saying, Sam. But you keep saying it for some reason.

    [You really are a disingenuous bloke and I don’t mind telling you that. Don’t talk to me about integrity wrapped in your holier-than-thou cloak.]

    You need to update the profile you wrote about me a few weeks back, Sam, as it appears you failed to mention the disingenuous part:

    (3) Geokat= decent, philosophical Canuck, BDS man with an unrequited passion for “the truth”, which in recent days has started to include an embrace of Joe Webb.

    [That is a subversive position, especially from a Canadian.]

    Oh, I’m the one with the subversive position because I do not hold the Ruskies responsible for influencing the election results, but you are not guilty of holding a subversive position for suggesting that Iraq represented an existential threat to the US, instead of Israel. Do I have that right?

    [Again, Why are their no dumps on Russia? Or China? Or do you think they are saints?]

    Or dumps on Israel, I might add.

    Look, the explanation is really trivial, Sam. The Ruskies and Chinese have built domestic lobbies so strong that the intelligence agencies are simply terrified of doing anything untoward against them. If you don’t find that explanation particularly satisfying, Sam, perhaps you wouldn’t mind offering up one of your own.

  231. geokat62 says:

    Let’s recall the key points in our exchange:
    SS – For the longest time, I had my doubts that Russia was behind all this, but I am beginning to change my mind.

    If anyone still has doubts that Wikileaks and the Russians are working together to undermine and destabilise our government institutions, erode public confidence in our government, and generally wreak havoc in our country, this latest document dump should erase all doubt. We are under attack by an adversarial nation, with a President here at the helm who seems not to take any of this seriously.

    geokat62 – If you have a shred of integrity, please present the verifiable, concrete, tangible evidence that has convinced you to change your mind…

    SS – I don’t need to find any “incriminating evidence buried deep” in the Wikileaks dumps. Our security agencies are working on it as you may very well guess, ordinary citizens being obviously incapable of carrying out such investigations.

    So, Sam, if the security agencies are still working on it, isn’t it a little premature to conclude the nefarious Ruskies did indeed influence the election results when no new information has yet surfaced? Isn’t the obvious question: what made you change your mind about those dastardly Ruskies?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  232. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    They are very leery of venturing into forbidden territory,

    Odd.

    Why wouldn’t every media outlet want to give itself over to “dem Jews what done it” 24/7?

  233. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “No, it is up to you to provide proof the statistic, 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is wrong, not merely misleading, as you originally alleged.”

    I called you a liar for a reason. You made a statement–70% of jewish families owned slaves– without even documenting a source. I investigated further and discovered Louis Farrakan made this claim. This claim was disputed by this evidence by a historian–In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. Jews owned only a fraction of 1 percent – thousands, not millions – of the enslaved population.”

    It is now YOUR job to counter this claim. Surely you can tell us how and why he is other than truthful. Indeed, if you believe in the accuracy of the statistic offered by Farrahkan, it behooves you to submit verifiable, concrete, and tangible evidence.

    Now, according to Bertram W. Korn’s research (Jews and Negro Slavery in the Old South, 1789-1865), census records and slave purchasing documents show that southern Jews “who owned slaves were concentrated in cities, not in the plantation districts containing ninety percent of the enslaved population. For example, there were only four Jews – less than one-tenth of one percent – among the 11,000 Southerners who in 1830 owned fifty or more slaves.”

    According to David Brion Davis, Professor of History Emeritus at Yale University, he writes “To keep matters in perspective, we should note that in the American South, in 1830, there were only 120 Jews among the 45,000 slaveholders owning twenty or more slaves and only twenty Jews among the 12,000 slaveholders owning fifty or more slaves. Even if each member of this Jewish slaveholding elite had owned 714 slaves—a ridiculously high figure in the American South—the total number would only equal the 100,000 slaves owned by black and colored planters in St. Domingue in 1789, on the eve of the Haitian Revolution…Of course, some Jews were involved in the slave trade. Every European Western nation was. There were also some regions in which the slave trade was more accessible to Jews—Rhode Island, Newport, Holland, to name a few striking examples. The Dutch Jews weren’t persecuted, so there were quite a few who were involved.”

    It is now up to you to counter these particular claims with verifiable, concrete, and tangible evidence.

    • Replies: @HdC
    , @Anon
    , @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  234. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    And I’m beginning to change my mind about you, Sam. This comment is truly insulting as it clearly shows the low regard in which you hold most goy.

    And I gave you the benefit of doubt and it is just about gone.

    You just can’t seem to get away from the: you lie, you dishonest, you be hasbara shtick.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  235. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    How many cow chips could a woodchuck chuck

    If a woodchuck could tell cow chips from fresh BS?

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  236. Sam Shama says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    [Putin only need sit back and watch the USA tear itself apart.]

    This is precisely the critical danger I was speaking of earlier, which many commenters here cheerfully wave away. Narrow visions…..

    I can believe the inter-agency rivalry explanation as a far more satisfying theory than the stupid fable pushed by some here, of Wikileaks breaching security systems exclusively via whistleblowers. I think even those who follow the proceedings often make the flawed assumption that Snowden’s was the only source. It wasn’t and isn’t.

    The Tor angle makes good sense. Still, I am not entirely convinced, given Wiki attacks the NSA as well:

    https://wikileaks.org/nsa-201602/

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  237. @Penguinchip

    Dip-f**k, the article is exaggeration Lévy’s style… the whole point of the lampoon (if you read the very beginning, a baboon IQ could sort that, sadly for you)

    • Replies: @Penguinchip
    , @iffen
    , @RobinG
  238. @jacques sheete

    You mean the editors of Antiwar.com didn’t jump for joy when they received your copypasta. Keep your nickles. You might need them.

  239. @Ronald Thomas West

    People who think you suck are stupid assholes who just can’t understand you. I get it now.

  240. @Sam Shama

    “Still, I am not entirely convinced, given Wiki attacks the NSA as well”

    That would be almost predictable, a method employed in false-flag which could be described as to ‘shoot one’s own toe off, to expedite putting a bullet in the brain of your adversary’ or place something that appears to damage the guilty party, to throw the bloodhounds off.

    This is all supposition, of course, but that’s what nearly all intelligence analysis is, the metaphor would be assembling a sensible picture from a half dozen incomplete jigsaw puzzles.

    Trump is no lily-white knight, in fact as his whole distraction over the ‘Russian threat’ plays out, elsewhere people are assembling (rather a deconstruction) the biggest assault on citizens protections our republic has/ever will have seen (whether one agrees with the following or not, it is a radical agenda), as the following bills HAVE been introduced:

    1. HR 861 Terminate the Environmental Protection Agency
    2. HR 610 Vouchers for Public Education
    3. HR 899 Terminate the Department of Education
    4. HJR 69 Repeal Rule Protecting Wildlife
    5. HR 370 Repeal Affordable Care Act
    6. HR 354 Defund Planned Parenthood
    7. HR 785 National Right to Work (this one ends unions)
    8. HR 83 Mobilizing Against Sanctuary Cities Bill
    9. HR 147 Criminalizing Abortion (“Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act”)
    10. HR 808 Sanctions against Iran

    Per 610 (#2, above) as a single example:

    House Bill 610 introduced by Steve King. For the racists who frequent this site, note this bill would negatively impact many poor Whites in some respects (there are more of those everyday.) Kids would be thrown under the bus regardless of race in most respects:

    610 will effectively start the school voucher system to be used by children ages 5-17, and starts the defunding process of public schools.

    The bill will eliminate the Elementary and Education Act (ESSA) of 1965, which is the nation’s educational law and provides equal opportunity in education. ESSA is a comprehensive program that covers programs for struggling learners, AP classes, ESL classes, classes for minorities such as Native Americans, Rural Education, Education for the Homeless, School Safety (Gun-Free schools), Monitoring and Compliance and Federal Accountability Programs.

    House Bill 610 would also abolish the Nutritional Act of 2012 (No Hungry Kids Act) which provides nutritional standards in school breakfast and lunch. For our most vulnerable, this may be the ONLY nutritious food they have in a day.

    The bill has no wording whatsoever protecting special needs kids, no mention of IDEA and FAPE.

    Some things (the proposed to be eliminated) ESSA does for Children with Disabilities
    -Ensures access to the general education curriculum.
    -Ensures access to accommodations on assessments.
    -Ensures concepts of Universal Design for Learning
    -Includes provisions that require local education agencies to provide evidence-based
    interventions in schools with consistently underperforming subgroups.
    -Requires states in Title I plans to address how they will improve conditions for learning including reducing incidents of bullying and harassment in schools, overuse of discipline practices and reduce the use of aversive behavioral interventions (such as restraints and seclusion).

    Of course Hillary would have kept these preceding as she employed 1000 dishonest means of screwing the American people, her primary method, of course, starting unnecessary wars our great-grand-kids would be expected to pay for at this point of our incomprehensible national debt.

    A sort of ‘heads I win, tails, you lose’ circumstance that translates ‘the good news is Hillary lost, the bad news is, Trump won’ where we can expect a sore loser throwing her support behind a USA Soros sponsored ‘color revolution’, as well plots from the Evangelical right to put their man Pence in power could fit the Soros agenda hand to glove (it is like Mad Magazine)

    The USA is set to tear itself apart at every level… and then what becomes of the nukes? Too many generals work for Trump … generals with a Russia-Iran animus. Ouch.

    Now, you see why I have stayed clear … and will go back to figuring how to grow stuff my grandkids can eat in a post-nuclear world –

  241. @iffen

    “How many cow chips could a woodchuck chuck “iffen” a woodchuck could tell cow chips from fresh BS.”

    iffen,

    I have wasted time by reading way too many of your stupid comments, but given the one above, you have reached a lower bottom.

    By the way, and I completely understand that you’d have to don off your red tights & tail, but… what is your real name? Your screen name “iffen” sounds like something a pretty cheerleader once said to me while in the backseat of my 1961 Chevy Bel Air, “OK, Chuck, we can do it, that is iffen you have a rubber.”

    (Sigh) You are just another phony that doesn’t bother to even read Phil Giraldi articles!

    If you think it will be helpful to the criminal Zionist Cause you so foolishly serve & defend, below is “fresh & chippy” satire which I wrote, and used my real name:

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

    Post scriptum: Hey Sam the Sham, instead of the pennysucker name “Woodchuck,” can you consider giving my old nick name “viral bacterial strain” back to me? Thank you.

    • Replies: @L.K
  242. iffen says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    A baboon level lampoon designed to knock you out of your cocoon.

  243. RobinG says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Excellent, from your site. (This is not the lampoon, of course.)

    Paraphrasing a former MI5 agent I had seen interviewed, under Qaddhafi: if one were not particularly political, a citizen could go about a normal life, attain free education, travel and study abroad and enjoy a standard of living approximating a middle class American, the envy of North Africa .. Since the ‘fall of Tripoli’, a $5 taxi ride from the airport has gone up to $500. The capital and the country are divided into fiefs by competing tribal war lords and the militias are refusing to disarm, women’s rights have vanished and torture, murder and rape are rampant throughout the country. In the end, it is likely the rank and file Libyan citizenry will look back and wish they’d never heard of ‘democracy.’
    RTW

  244. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Not Woodchucks but I love hunting Nazis; got a few

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Chuck Orloski
    , @Anon
  245. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Strange how people – who are aware of the misrepresentations about Israel – are not skeptical of other “reporting” [read, Fake News] in our media.

    This is the shortest, and most disturbing, indictment I’ve seen of the propaganda directed at Syria. The headline is Mr. Ferrada, but it’s really the Swedish doctors who should be cited.
    Two minutes. Please watch.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGgl-9vO8o4&feature=youtu.be
    Marcello Ferrada de Noli talks to RT about White Helmets in Syria

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Sam Shama
  246. iffen says:

    P. Giraldi, thank you for censoring my last comment directed at Chuck O. It was completely OT, served no good purpose, was crude and tasteless, even by my standards. However, it did meet my exacting standard for humor.

    I offer as my defense the fact that I am still completely discombobulated by S. Shama’s offering up of C. Hitchens’ ten justifications for the 2nd Iraq War http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/7193 in a comment to I. Mercer’s article http://www.unz.com/imercer/islam-not-trump-is-the-elephant-in-the-room-threatening-jewish-survival/#comment-1789276. Until such time as I am able to sort through this confusion I will try to limit my commenting.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @Sam Shama
  247. schmenz says:
    @tjm

    Tragic…but well said.

  248. L.K says:
    @geokat62

    Not only that, geokat, but also I have long suspected some of their(antiwar.com) key financial backers, those ‘angels’, must be compromised.
    They are largely gatekeepers.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  249. @geokat62

    “So, Sam, if the security agencies are still working on it, isn’t it a little premature to conclude the nefarious Russkies did indeed influence the (POTUS) election results.”

    Dear geokat62,

    It’s somewhat understandable that you allow such off-topic comments written by Sam the Sham and Corvinus “tie” you down on this truly important article.

    Doubtless, by looking at the sane-to-insane comment ratio, you can see how these Deceit Artists have succeeded at stimulating boredom, and subsequently drove away some honest and well considered commenters.

    Alas, you are a rare gentleman and refrain to tell Sam the Sham and Corvinus to fuck off and get on topic for a change. Please consider that it’s actually morally constructive for you to come straight out and suggest to former-ideological ally, for example, Sam The Sham, that he’s just a lying uptown geek.

    Oh well, geokat62. A question — By chance, are you on William Blum’s email list for receiving his very informative “Anti-Empire” reports? If not, below, is his latest which I would immediately stick in front of Sam the Sham’s big nose.

    https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149

    (Note: One can email William Blum and he will kindly add you to his “Anti-Empire Report” email list)

    post scriptum: Given the fact that Mr. Blum’s legendary book “Killing Hope” is so expensive, I feel pretty bad that my current earnings as a Scranton school bus driver fail to cover the cost of buying the book for my bookshelf collection. It’s clear O.B.L. read “Killing Hope” before he had to hideout in an Islamabad basement, and temporarily resorted to using either candles or a battery powered light-source to read P. Zelikow’s 9-11 Report.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  250. L.K says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Chuck to Zio Troll, ‘ iffen’;

    “Your screen name “iffen” sounds like something a pretty cheerleader once said to me while in the backseat of my 1961 Chevy Bel Air, “OK, Chuck, we can do it, that is iffen you have a rubber.”

    Chuck, thanks for putting a smile on my face, sir!
    🙂

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  251. @iffen

    “… I am still discombobulated by S. Shama’s offering up of C. Hitchens’ ten justifications for the 2nd Iraq war. ”

    First of all, because I really enjoy when people like you insult me, I sincerely feel bad that “P. Giraldi” censored your latest “crude, tasteless” comment, directed at me! In fact, and I might be wrong, but I feel very bad for you, given the fact it’s rather unlikely that Mr. Giraldi’s jobis to censor comments here.

    Try again and maybe your comment will “Hitch” and stick!

    Finally, ‘iffen,’ how long have you been dialoguing with Sam the Sham? (Sigh) For you to have just noticed that S.S. tends to “discombobulate”Unz Review commenters seems impossible! Or as (uncensored) President Trump might say, “Iffen unbelievable!”

  252. @L.K

    You’re welcome, L.K.! He makes it pretty “iffen” easy for one to mock him.

    I must go now and drive p.m. school bus! Thanks.

  253. Svigor says:

    If by Zionist you mean Israel holding a favoured nation status in their hearts then you are right. It might even be somewhat stronger than that, but really not substantially different than Irish or Italian Americans holding a special place in their hearts for the mother nation. I know what you mean by Jews not endorsing “Zionism” for Europeans. I can’t be dead sure of course, but I think they do; at least in principle in Israel. I reckon the general feeling in Israel is that Europeans after giving Israel so much hell at the U.N, for so many decades, should get a taste for the Arabs they so valiantly championed in their own drawing rooms. Just my sense, could be wrong.

    And the 200m Europeans who have been so instrumental to Israel’s continued survival and success, so strongly on Team Israel these many years, they’re just chopped liver?

    The French, who helped Israel get nukes, need to die?

    The Germans, who sell them submarines, are roadkill?

    And the Jews, who were so instrumental to the October Revolution, the Holodomor, the Red Terror, the gulags, and millions of dead Europeans, they get an ethno-state?

    This is what I mean about that ethnocentrism thing.

    That Ronald West article is unreadable shit. Not that Henri-Levy isn’t indeed despicable, but get an editor.

    It’s funny that he thinks his comments are a good advertisement for his blog. Okay, they are, just in the opposite direction than he seems to think.

    I called you a liar for a reason. You made a statement–70% of jewish families owned slaves– without even documenting a source. I investigated further and discovered Louis Farrakan made this claim. This claim was disputed by this evidence by a historian–In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. Jews owned only a fraction of 1 percent – thousands, not millions – of the enslaved population.”

    Because you’re on Team Jew. That’s why you criticize Europeans for their colonialism 200 years ago, and long since ended, despite how much they’ve done to ameliorate, while you refuse to even acknowledge the ongoing and unapologetic Jewish colonialism in Palestine, no matter how many times the question is brought to your attention.

    Jews only owned a fraction because they were heavily into slave dealing, not slave-holding. Like drug dealers.

    You just can’t seem to get away from the: you lie, you dishonest, you be hasbara shtick.

    To be fair, Jews have earned that schtick well.

  254. Svigor says:

    Meant to ask:

    And the 200m Europeans in America, who have been so instrumental to Israel’s continued survival and success, so strongly on Team Israel these many years, they’re just chopped liver?

  255. Svigor says:

    And the Europeans (Brits, Americans, Russians) who pulled Jews’ fat out of the fire in WWII; screw them too, I guess.

  256. @L.K

    Exactly. Antiwar.com is an outlet for non-interventionist libertarians to say critical things about Israel that they can’t say in polite company. You know, blame it on wild man Raimondo, who in reality doesn’t go nearly far enough (does he still think the Bible-thumpers are the real power behind pro-Israel advocacy?). Just goes to show how useless so many libertarians are.

    • Replies: @utu
  257. utu says:

    Bernard-Henri is caricature of what we thought French intellectual was. Garrison Keillor got him right in this review of Bernard-Henri’s most pretentious book about America.

    On the Road Avec M. Lévy
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/books/review/on-the-road-avec-m-levy.html

  258. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I offer as my defense the fact that I am still completely discombobulated by S. Shama’s offering

    Hahahahahaaa

    Sorry Iffen, I thought you might have picked up an anagram I left before. Gist: I like to liven things up when bored, particularly when a surfeit of “truth-telling” fills the air.

    Not doing it again, at least not imminently.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Anon
    , @Anon
  259. utu says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Just goes to show how useless so many libertarians are.” – I haven’t met a useful one, yet.

    • Replies: @Beefcake the Mighty
  260. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Well, I knew that there had to be an explanation, I just couldn’t get to it.

    However, I have realized that this comment was not the source of my emotional and intellectual (what little there is) angst.

    The wheels are lining up in my realization that I have been mistaken for most of my life about politics in the US. For many years I have assumed that the possibility of effective political action on behalf of “my” side was extremely unlikely. Even so, I assumed that should lightning strike and there was a sea change in politics then the will of the people could, in fact, express itself in a change in the direction of the government. I realize now that it cannot happen. The elites will not let it happen. I got my first inkling when a Republican Supreme Court installed Bush as President over Gore.

    We had a damn good run.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  261. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    However, I have one important question: why isn’t Wikileaks doing something similar with the really no-nonsense authoritarian regimes out there like China, Russia, Turkey, et al?

    A more important question is why isn’t Wikikleaks exposing the Mossad and Israel?

    What CIA and NSA and FBI info goes direct to Israel?

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  262. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Iffen,
    The elites have always ruled. There is an interesting analysis in Thomas Piketty’s book, Capital, which indisputably demonstrates that, even after the French Revolution the distribution of incomes by family lineage and the influence of these same families on the political power structure, had not changed much. In fact, in many ways, they got stronger.

    I don’t think there is anything terribly wrong with the U.S. when viewed over a longer arc of time. We are merely going through a period of angst where a deep economic downturn exposed the underbelly of a nascent programme to globalise the world and certain age groups got especially struck by a juxtaposition of these two trends. The key is to restore a semblance of economic parity for those groups affected in the hinterland of the country. I feel Trump and Bannon feel this in their bones.

    Most Americans are a generous, honest lot and not a bit racist; they put Donald in power mainly because he was an “outsider” and a billionaire. Yes, there is something which attracts everybody to demonstrated success. Trump is a realist and wants to attract the best immigrants to this country; for they, amongst all people, keep this country dynamic. What he wants to prevent is an inundation from South of the border as well as eradicate the extractive trade practices of Mexico and China.

    We need to deliver on the economic agenda. That will solve 90% of issues. The geopolitical stuff is simply the age old story of nation states jostling each other for a greater share of power.

    • Replies: @iffen
  263. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    Good question. Why not? Mossad’s got a hand in Wikileaks?

  264. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    What was the anagram? I tried “You’ll gather but not many”, the best answer was “A man try ugly buttonhole”. Then again there were some less polite ones …

  265. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    For the longest time, I had my doubts that Russia was behind all this, but I am beginning to change my mind.

    How can any human being be that dishonest – oh my’ – he just decided “that Russia is a bad guy.”

    Really – that has been Jew MSM hasbara boilerplate for at least 2 years. What can explain that totally dishonest insulting statement from Shama?

    Hmm – is Sam Shama human – or is Sam – AI (artificial intelligence)?

    Paying half the Israeli populace to do Hasbara, may be getting too expensive. Considering the past poor quality of Sam’s work – maybe he was one of the first people to be replaced?

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Just thinking!

  266. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Dr Giraldi,

    Something was bothering me after I read your piece yesterday.

    You write:

    On Sunday New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss “trade and security issues” without anyone complaining that he was in violation of the Logan Act,

    Now, I won’t venture into whether Cuomo’s trip was warranted as a general protocol – that might be a matter of opinion and moreover, such visits have been customary.

    The Post Article, I paste here [short enough] says in entirety the following:

    Gov. Cuomo will meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Sunday to discuss trade and security measures.

    “Israel is very advanced when it comes to providing security and there’s a lot that New York can learn from them in that regard,” Cuomo said Saturday following a round-table discussion with local Jewish leaders at Park East Synagogue on 67th Street.

    The governor’s trip to the Holy Land, the second of his administration, comes after a rash of anti-Semitic incidents, including a Staten Island Jewish Community Center bomb threat and a vandalized Jewish cemetery in Rochester.

    Cuomo vowed to “fight with all the strength” in his body any threats toward Jewish organizations.

    “We will not tolerate this anti-Semitic behavior and we will do everything that we can to stop it,” he said.

    In addition to meeting with Netanyahu, Cuomo will tour the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Western Wall and Yad Vashem, the country’s official memorial to Holocaust victims.

    I fail to see is where does any of it stand in violation of the Logan Act which only prohibits private citizens from negotiating on behalf of the U.S., security matters with a sovereign currently engaged in a dispute with the United States.

    ??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    , @Art
  267. HdC says:
    @Corvinus

    Germany, or more accurately the member states of the Holy Roman Empire of the Germanic Nations NEVER engaged in slavery nor any if its aspects or derivatives.

    In the USA no German expatriate owned slaves. HdC

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @utu
  268. @Sam Shama

    Thanks Sam – I was being a bit cutesy about how the Logan Act was being cited constantly relating to any associate from the Trump administration discussing any foreign policy related issue with a foreign government official. So should Cuomo be discussing national security with the Israelis? I personally have no problem with it but we now live in a world in which every interaction with Russia is somehow being seen as treasonous while everything else is okay. If Flynn violated the Logan Act by speaking with the Russian Ambassador and committing to nothing then Cuomo is also violating it by discussion security issues with the Israelis. In my opinion, neither one of them has done anything wrong.

  269. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    (75% of Jews owning slaves) != (75% of slaves owned by Jews).

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Corvinus
  270. Seraphim says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    @I know what you are.

    We all found out eventually: a hasbara troll.

  271. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    we now live in a world in which every interaction with Russia is somehow being seen as treasonous while everything else is okay.

    Well, I certainly agree with this, seeing as I have been swayed into thinking that Russia has to be behind the voluminous Wikileaks exposes. Of course, playing in the back of my mind was “some foreign power has to be involved, mere whistleblowers cannot be doing this for fear of what has already happened to Snowden, and, what might very well happen to him in the future.”

    RTW then pointed out that it is quite likely intra-agency rivalry, or possibly China’s handiwork. So all of those things are possible, but it seems naive to assume that Putin isn’t enjoying the whole spectacle.

    So while I readily concede that it may not have been Russia, at least not with any degree of certitude, it still begs several questions: (a) Why did a plurality of our agencies conclude a Russian hand in our elections? (b) Why isn’t Wiki dumping compromising material on Russia/China/Turkey and yes, even Israel???

    • Replies: @Art
  272. Z-man says:

    I would indict Cuomo just for sucking up to Israel, but that’s just me. lol

  273. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Israel is very advanced when it comes to providing security and there’s a lot that New York can learn from them in that regard,” Cuomo said Saturday following a round-table discussion with local Jewish leaders at Park East Synagogue on 67th Street.

    Say Sam AI,

    What is your programmed response to the idea that Israel is the most secure country on the planet – when all we hear is that Israel needs more military prowess to combat all the people who hate it?

    How can Israel be both secure and need more arms?

    We are waiting for your programmed response.

    Thanks (hope you are programmed so we can be human with you).

    Peace — Art

  274. RobinG says:
    @Anon

    So you failed Junior High School math, eh?

    • Replies: @Anon
  275. Corvinus says:
    @HdC

    The Black Slaves of Prussia, by Frank Weston (1918)–He was an English Bishop and missionary to German East Africa that describes the state of affairs here.

    Essentially, no, the Germans did not practice formal slavery, in that the Germans themselves did not own slaves. They also forbade the taking/creation of any new slaves under their rule, but did allow existing slaves (owned by the Africans) to continue to exist as slaves and considered their children slaves as well as was the East African custom. What they did insist on was a system wherein a slave could buy their freedom for a set price. In practice, this basically led to a system of virtual slavery that even the Germans participated in.

    If you were a German planter or officer, etc. and desired a laborer or woman, you would go to the local tribal chief and purchase some of his slaves. You would hold onto their certificate of freedom and force them to work or accompany you until they were no longer useful and then they were given their certificate and allowed to go on their way.

    So, the German government officially did not support slavery (they even issued decrees stating it), but they turned a blind eye to the practice of virtual slavery that was common. You basically ended up with a tiered system:

    Germans
    African Leaders and Africans who worked with Germans
    Regular Africans
    Freed Slaves paying off debt in a form of unofficial indentured servitude that were owned by Germans
    Slaves owned by African leaders that were often sold to the Germans or rented out as labor

    • Replies: @HdC
  276. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    If you have something substantial to add to the conversation, we are all ears.

    • Replies: @Anon
  277. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    I watched it and I must say it is shocking that white hats are engaged in this sort of work. I’ll follow up on it to verify further. Thx.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  278. @Sam Shama

    “Not woodchucks but I love hunting Nazis; got a few.”

    Dear Sam the Sham,

    (My reaction to your above comment) Oh my… brrr, rattle-rattle-rattle, teeth chatter!

    While possible, and since you have “got a few,” I suppose I best change your accurate nickname to something more Zio-Politically Correct! Uh, would you cotton to my calling you Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg?

    Also, & as a slight reprieve, please let me know if you could “book” me (ideally) after Scranton School District bus drivers payday, tomorrow? Thanks and by the way — I denounce Vladimir Putin, P. Giraldi, & God bless you and all illegal Israeli settlements!

    Note: For others here who are old enough & might be implicated with any Nazis, “linked” below is an old cartoon video called “Deputy Dawg” which I watched while a whippersnapper Brownshirt, and studying hard to pass the standard Reich-test in order to drive bus for the Baden-Baden School District!

  279. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    I called you a liar for a reason. You made a statement–70% of jewish families owned slaves– without even documenting a source.

    Permit me to refresh your memory. Here is my original statement:

    The figure tjm quoted (70% of Jewish families owned slaves) is accurate according to Professor Tony Martin who informs us that this information comes from Jewish sources.

    So, who’s the liar?

    Speaking of lying, are you seriously suggesting the statistic of 75% needs to be revised downward to “a fraction of 1 percent… ” of Jewish households owned slaves in the 1800s?

    Just wanted to give you another opportunity to confirm this is so before I cough up the money to purchase Prof. Martin’s book, The Jewish Onslaught: Despatches from the Wellesley Battlefront so I can blast that statistic out of the water.

  280. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    You apparently don’t, despite the fact that you’ve been posting on here like there’s no tomorrow. What happened, lose your jobs as Obama speechwriters? Your last post attempted somewhat fatuously to prove that the proposition is false that three out of every four enslaved blacks in the South was owned by a Jew. Point out someone here who claimed the proposition to be true and the crow collective gets a gold star on its term report.

    Goodbye. You are now ignored.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  281. geokat62 says:
    @iffen

    You just can’t seem to get away from the: you lie, you dishonest, you be hasbara shtick.

    If I’m not mistaken, I believe even you yourself admitted to being “discombobulated” by the hasbara shtick, as you put it:

    I offer as my defense the fact that I am still completely discombobulated by S. Shama’s offering up of C. Hitchens’ ten justifications for the 2nd Iraq War…

    But I guess you were able to decipher Sam’s anagram enough to your satisfaction that you are now convinced that Iraq indeed represented an existential threat to the US, not Israel, justifying a preemptive attack.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  282. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @RobinG

    Nope.

    You usually make quite intelligent comments. Please think a little and then write back, if you feel like it. Btw, that was a very informative video you linked a few comments ago.

    RB

    Postscriptum: You may have been confused by the != sign. This is common programming shorthand for the “not equal” sign. See here: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/22336/what-is-the-origin-of-in-the-meaning-not-equal-to .

    • Replies: @RobinG
  283. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Oh well, geokat62. A question — By chance, are you on William Blum’s email list for receiving his very informative “Anti-Empire” reports?

    Hey, Chuck. I wasn’t aware of William Blum, but after visiting his website and reading his wiki entry, he appears to be a righteous Jew.

    I intend to read a few of his reports on his website before deciding to sign up for them.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  284. utu says:
    @HdC

    Germany, or more accurately the member states of the Holy Roman Empire of the Germanic Nations NEVER engaged in slavery nor any if its aspects or derivatives.

    I do not think this is correct. The trade in slaves was conducted on the territory of the Holy Roman Empire in middle ages. There were big slave markets in Prague, Italy and France, where the slaves were brought and prepared for sale (castration) and sold. The final destination of slaves was Norther Africa and Souther Spain under muslim rule. The slavers were mostly Jewish. Church was against slavery and eventually had it banned. St. Adalbert was known for his activity agains Jewish slave traders:

    7) He has a vision of Christ telling him to save Christians from slavery by the Jewish traders
    8) He pleads with the Duke of Bohemia for the release of Christians slaves by their Jewish masters
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gniezno_Doors

    A form od slave trade was also going on through Crimea till Crimea was conquered by Russia in 18 century. A part of the business was collecting ransom for people kidnapped in Poland, Ukraine and Russia by Tartars and Cossacks who were brought to Crimea and kept there or sold South to Iraq or Turkey. As usual Jews were the most prominent among the traders.

    • Replies: @HdC
  285. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    So you didn’t notice, the White Helmets have been thoroughly exposed as anti-Assad, NATO-sponsored agitprop. Travesty that the movie won an Oscar, but if there was a propaganda category it might deserve it. (Goebbels nods from grave.)

    The film-makers and their crew never set foot in Syria, did all their ‘movie-making’ at the rebel base in Gaziantep, Turkey. All the shaky footage the White Helmets shot in al-Nusra held parts of Syria is phony crap like this.

    There are a few decent journalists who actually go to Syria (unlike our MSM that files reports from Beirut or Istanbul) but almost nobody pays any attention.

    Tulsi Gabbard introduced a bill (again) to Stop Funding Terrorists, but our Congress is so wrapped up in stupid Russia bashing that they can’t imagine Putin and Assad aren’t the villains in Syria.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  286. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “Your last post attempted somewhat fatuously to prove that the proposition is false that three out of every four enslaved blacks in the South was owned by a Jew.”

    Several sources contradict that proposition. Again, are you able to muster up the courage to dispute the facts offered?

    “Point out someone here who claimed the proposition to be true and the crow collective gets a gold star on its term report.”

    I prefer stamps. With smiley faces.

  287. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    “Not Woodchucks but I love hunting Nazis; got a few”

    It is a sad day in America when a Zionist dual Jewish Israel American citizen, can make a veiled threat against a patriotic American school bus driver and feel he is justified simply by deploying the ” you are a NAZI defense maneuver”.

    This just shows that the “Chosen” never learn from their sorry history. This is not the first time, Sam, you have threaten patriotic Americans.

    The last time, if you can recall, you said you will easily dispatch the
    “Dunkin Donut Radicals”.

    Sam.. this tactic is getting as old as over chewed gum.

    ” it’s a trick, the Jews always use it”

    Are you the “Bat Jew” in the Jewish wet dream movie ” Inglorious Bastereds “?

    Or… are you a member of the Jewish Defense League?

    The last time I checked, the Jewish Defense League was still on the US terrorist watch list.

    Keith

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  288. @Philip Giraldi

    Dear Mr. Giraldi,

    If anyone gets “cutesy” here with citing shaky “cutesy” things, I nominate Sam Shama.

    As I suspected, he makes comments without having read your articles. Below is a 3-pointed factual example.

    1. The Unz Review posted “Cheerleading for Israel” on Tuesday, March 7th.

    2. In his comment #270, dated March 9, S.S. addressed you & opined, “Something was bothering me AFTER I read your piece yesterday.” (Uh, yesterday was March 8)

    3. I did a little “Deputy Dawg” snooping into precisely when S.S. issued his first (1st) comment on your article. And evidence indicates Sam Shama made comment # 53 on March 7th — a day earlier than March 8th when he professed to having read your “Cheerleading for Israel.”

    Doubtless, Sam the Sham will talk down to me and insist he reread “Cheerleading for Israel” today. Moral to this comment: “woodchucks” can’t collar Nazis, but they can get calendar timelines right!

    Thank you, Sir, for this fantastic article.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  289. HdC says:
    @utu

    I do not think that Prague, France, nor Italy, where you stated that slavery occurred, were members of the Holy Roman Empire.

    Fairly recently I read that the first protestors against slavery in the USA were German expatriates in Philadelphia, sometimes during the 1600’s. (this from memory as I remember it in passing). HdC

    • Replies: @utu
  290. HdC says:
    @Corvinus

    Certainly interesting history indicating that there were exceptions to the accepted rules. Perhaps to accommodate local realities? HdC

  291. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    So while I readily concede that it may not have been Russia, at least not with any degree of certitude, it still begs several questions: (a) Why did a plurality of our agencies conclude a Russian hand in our elections? (b) Why isn’t Wiki dumping compromising material on Russia/China/Turkey and yes, even Israel???

    So Sam AI 1.0,

    You are in a big loop here – it is Russia Russia Russia – that is so plastic.

    Please make it interesting for us humans – in Sam AI 2.0 mix it up a little!

    Peace — Art

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  292. @geokat62

    “I intend to read a few (W.B.) reports on his web site before signing up for them.”

    Geokat62,

    I respect you for doing such.

    To help enhance objectivity, I want to let you know that, several months ago, William Blum issued a special report where he hammered Muslim terrorists. F.Y.I., a number of his his biggest supporters became angry with W.B. and perhaps considered him < a "righteous Jew."

    At any rate, Mr. Blum is nearing 80-years old and I consider his latest "Anti-Empire Report" great.
    In fact, one day I would love to read his history making book "Killing Hope."

    Thanks!

    P.S.: In comment # 282, I provided a "link" to a "Deputy Dawg" cartoon. Most will consider watching Deputy Dog reruns as quite mindless, but I assure you that it's timely hysterical and you may appreciate the wise ending, and what happens to the Hollywood film crew.

  293. utu says:
    @HdC

    “I do not think that Prague, France, nor Italy, where you stated that slavery occurred, were members of the Holy Roman Empire.”

    I am sorry, but your thinking or lack of it has no power to change the borders of the Holy Roman Empire. Bohemia, Northern Italy and some eastern provinces of France were part of it. Moving slaves from Eastern and Central Europe (also slaves from Finland and Scandinavia and from Balto-Slavic lands) required the caravans with slaves to move through current territory of Germany where tolls to German municipalities and principalities had to be paid by the slave traders. HRC (including Germans) profited from the slavery. Prague and Lyon, the largest slave markets, were part of HRE. Venice that had one of the larges slave markets, technically was not part of HRC but all the routes to it were controlled by HRE.

    “the first protestors against slavery in the USA were German expatriates in Philadelphia” – The 1688 Germantown Quaker Petition Against Slavery is not called German expatriate petition but Quaker petition for a reason. This was the Mennonite and Quaker thing rather than the German thing.

    • Replies: @HdC
  294. @utu

    Not all of them. The old Rothbard/Hoppe wing rejected mainstream libertarian dogma on open borders and accepted race realism, and supported historical revisionism (Rothbard was probably a Holocuast “denier”, he was certainly sympathetic to the main ideas). Their old comrade Rockwell strove for greater “respectability”, with utterly predictable results. Raimondo was in that orbit as well, he’s carved out his niche as the phony opposition to the US imperium. (That’s not totally fair, he still writes some very good stuff, but he clearly knows just how far he can go.)

  295. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    You pathetic imposter, writing with that feigned “oldster” style may not realise that topics covered by Phil Giraldi’s articles, especially those entitled “Israel etc etc” are not substantially different in their overall message. I don’t fault Mr. Giraldi for doing it, for that is his conviction and his right in a free society as much as it is my right to voice my opinion, as and when it pleases me. I read the comments [even before the articles sometimes], mainly to entertain myself and they frequently do. I am always struck by the fascinating display of obsessive pathologies.

    Doubtless, you are a moron and as I said before shove your post-scriptums up your proplapsed rectum.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  296. Sam Shama says:
    @Art

    So Art the incessant kvetcher,

    Please make it interesting for me. Write a few intelligent sentences, not even asking for well-reasoned theories, about (a) and (b) in the box you highlighted above.

    Perhaps getting off the constant bs mode, which I’m sure you think is some species of noble war you wage, will actually prove beneficial for your frontal lobe which decays with disuse.

    In the meantime, I need to go and administer the compulsory evening whipping to my Palestinians.

    cheerio

    • Replies: @Art
  297. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    I think I have discerned the root of your confusion. Let’s recall the gist of the exchange:

    tjm – [Yet, Jews don’t tell the whole story, while 30% of whites owned slaves when it was “legal”, 70% of JEWISH FAMILIES OWNED SLAVES, as well as owned many of the salve ships and slave trading companies.]

    Corvinus – [You are a liar.

    The source of the claim that 70% of Southern Jews were slave owners is “The Secret History…”.

    At his press conference, Farrakhan cited the book (and held it up for the cameras), then made the more absurd claim that 75% of slaves were held by Jews.]

    geokat62 – [The figure tjm quoted (70% of Jewish families owned slaves) is accurate according to Professor Tony Martin who informs us that this information comes from Jewish sources.

    According to Prof. Martin, the Lobby attempted to use tactic #15 against Minister Farrakhan:

    Minister Louis Farrakhan from The Nation of Islam made a slip. He was talking about the fact that about 75% of Jewish households in 1830 owned slaves. But he got it kind of wrong, you know. As one often does in the midst of a speech, a little slip of the tongue. When he said it came out as Jews own 75% of the slaves. It was obviously a slip of the tongue. But every time they mentioned him since, they always put that sound bite in to make it look like he was this great distorter of the truth. Here was, you know, Minister Farrakhan saying Jews on 75% of the slaves and so on.

    I’m afraid you owe tjm an apology, as the statistic that 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is historical fact.]

    Corvinus – [I called you a liar for a reason. You made a statement–70% of jewish families owned slaves– without even documenting a source. I investigated further and discovered Louis Farrakan made this claim. This claim was disputed by this evidence by a historian–In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household.]

    So, tjm asserted that 70% of Jewish families owned slaves, not that Jews owned 70% of the slaves as was attributed to Minister Farrakhan. My comment made clear that, according to Prof. Tony Martin, Farrakhan had made a slip of the tongue: instead of saying that Jews owned 75% of the slaves, he meant to say that 75% of Jewish households owned slaves.

    So the statistics you cited (If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household) are completely irrelevant. If, as you state, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews in 1860 and 75% of them owned slaves, this does not imply that every Jewish man, woman and child would own 200 slaves or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. It means the 75% of Jewish households owned slaves. How many slaves they owned is a function of the average number of slaves owned per household. If that number was say 10 (for mathematical simplicity sake) and there were 3,000 Jewish households (assume 15,000/5 people per hshld), that would imply that Jewish households owned a total of 30,000 slaves.

    So, the issue isn’t about the number of slaves owned by Jewish households, but the number of Jewish households that owned slaves. The Jewish sources of the Secret Relationship suggest 75%… I haven’t seen any information produced by you or anyone else that refutes this statistic.

    Bottom line: you should be a little more careful next time before accusing people of being liers without be absolutely clear about what they are asserting.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Corvinus
  298. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    It is a sad day in America when a Zionist dual Jewish Israel American citizen, can make a veiled threat against a patriotic American school bus driver and feel he is justified simply by deploying the ” you are a NAZI defense maneuver”.

    I a not a dual citizen. I suspect woodchuck is a Nazi sympathiser and I hate those. When I took my citizenship test one of the questions was “are you a member of a neo-Nazi group or were you in the past a member of the Nazi Party?” An answer in the affirmative is an automatic disqualifier.

    So I think I am certain that the U.S. does not want Nazis. Capisce?

    This just shows that the “Chosen” never learn from their sorry history. This is not the first time, Sam, you have threaten patriotic Americans.

    I never claimed we are Chosen or any such thing; that’s your constant mewling which I cannot prevent. Remind me when was the first time I supposedly “threatened” you? I don’t issue threats but I promise that all Nazis shall be found and eradicated in the fullness of time.

    Are you the “Bat Jew” in the Jewish wet dream movie ” Inglorious Bastereds “?

    Or… are you a member of the Jewish Defense League?

    The last time I checked, the Jewish Defense League was still on the US terrorist watch list.

    No I am a freindly Jew who loves Jew haters.

    JDL is for losers. I am a member of Jews for Everyone.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  299. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Hi Robin,
    No, I hadn’t noticed it, and as I said before it irks me. Although, not entirely surprised. Stories of people like Christiane Amanpour whooping it up in the best hotels in Ramallah over single malts and canapes while “reporting” on the “atrocities” committed by the IDF are very familiar to me as well.

    Who are these journalists you consider honest?

    • Replies: @RobinG
  300. RobinG says:
    @Anon

    Thanks for the clarification. Good to know that != means ‘does not equal.’

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  301. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    You didn’t read and process past your pre-confirmations yet again.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  302. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    It means the 75% of Jewish households owned slaves.

    How was the other 25% making do without any?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  303. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    yeah I believe I had used that shorthand on ….was it ‘Anon’ or someone else? Caused a bit of a furor.

  304. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    You didn’t read and process past your pre-confirmations yet again.

    What do you expect from a goyishe kop?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  305. Art says:
    @Sam Shama

    In the meantime, I need to go and administer the compulsory evening whipping to my Palestinians.

    So Sam AI 1.0,

    As an AI (Artificial Intelligence) isn’t that what you do with every word? Don’t you steal a square foot of Palestine with your every comment? (I know the real Mr Shama was only getting a half square foot.)

    If I were the real Mr. Shama, I would be angry that my name is being used with no glory for myself.

    Poor real Mr Shama has lost his identity to a computer. No hasbara money too. Sad!

    Peace — Art

    p.s. Hmm – has Sam AI 1.0’s programmer ever met the real Mr Shama?

    p.s. Maybe there is no problem – when you follow the Big Jews there is little space for individuality anyway – it’s tribe tribe tribe – always tribe.

    p.s. I am beginning to wonder about iffen – same AI programmer?

  306. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    How was the other 25% making do without any?

    I guess they kvetched the whole time.

  307. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    ” in my opinion, neither one of them has done anything wrong”

    Technically you are correct. However from a patriotic American from the Bronx viewpoint, there is a big difference between Flynn’s communication with Russian officials and Cuomo’s , the slavish shill for Israel, meeting with Netanyahu.

    Let’s start with Flynn. The Deep State
    ( Zionist oligarchs from Wall Street ) had their insiders leak the news of Flynn’s discussions with the Russians.

    Why did they leak this damaging information? See attached William Blum’s
    “The Zionist Empire” for a detailed explanation.

    https://williamblum.org/aer/read/149

    To paraphrase Blum explanation for taking down Flynn, Flynn wanted to reset American relations with Russia and the Zionist oligarchs on Wall Street wouldn’t have it. They are determine to force regime change in Russia and take out Putin. They want to put another Yeltsin drunk in power so they can rape Russia for a third time.

    Getting back to Cuomo, Cuomo claims the Israelis have advanced security skills that New York needs to keep Americans safe.

    Did Cuomo forget it was an Israeli security firm that was suppose to provide security at the airports, where on 911, the alleged Arab terrorists bordered the airlines with box cutters.

    Israeli security experts. No way!

    We need a American patriotic security company to protect Americans. Not a foreign firm. Especially Israel. New York is a terrorist target because of Cuomo’s support for Netanyahu and Israel.

    Since New York is a sanctuary city, will Coumo build a security wall around the Bronx, like Israel did, where my relatives live to protect them from Islamic Jihadist terrorism. Terrorism attacks instigated by New York politicians for their limitless Cheerleading for Israel. Phil, does this statement sound familiar?

    I thought Cuomo was against building walls.

    Lastly, who should be charged with violating the Logan Act? Sheldon Adelson. The dual Israeli American citizen who bought the US presidency.

    Money well spent to get the US to nuke Iran for Israel.

    Phil… you are my hero. Don’t lose credibility by entertaining the Hasbara propagandists.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @LOL
    , @Philip Giraldi
  308. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Well, without looking (there are >half dozen, from Germany, France, etc., but I forget names), I can endorse Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett.

    Eva, a Canadian, speaks colloquial Arabic and has been to Syria many times. She has no sponsor (accepts donations) and self funds. She applies for her own visa (the MSM are lying when they say there’s no access to Syria), and on her last trip went by road from Beirut to Damascus and Aleppo.

    Vanessa, a Brit, was in Aleppo when the eastern quarter “fell” – which was considered liberation by the civilians there. Vanessa and an elderly gentleman were the only foreign journalists present at the processing center for civilians, who described being held hostage by the ‘rebels.’ There are several youtube videos of this.

    A great deal was made in MSM about Aleppo (bombed hospitals, starved people, the “last doctor” etc.), but after the liberation there’s silence because it was largely fake. Of course, Eva and Vanessa are labeled ‘Assad apologists’ for not toeing NATO’s line. (They reported how the ‘rebels’ were bombing and sniping civilians in western Aleppo.)

    Tulsi Gabbard, a Hindu, was also pilloried – for going to see for herself. In this video, a Syrian priest explains very clearly that the rebels were terrorists from the beginning.

    US Rep Tulsi Gabbard’s visit to Aleppo | January 2017

    • Replies: @annamaria
  309. @Sam Shama

    “I don’t fault Mr. Giraldi for doing it, for that is his conviction, and his right in a free society…”

    Dear Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg,

    In contrast to yours, P. Giraldi’s “convictions’ are based upon knowledge of history, current political events, career experience, and experience. Like “Anon,” in comment 311, I also hope P.G. avoids falling prey to your Hasbara junk!

    You delight in calling me a “moron” (above) but to date nothing in your Unz Review comments suggests that you read any history of pre-WWII Germany except that which is approved by “Jews for Everyone” — that is of course “Everyone” who submits to Zionist-approved historical distortion.

    I am fairly confident in saying that you never read anything written by about author Victor Suvorov who wrote “The Ice Breaker” and “The Chief Culprit.” In the latter book, Mr. Suvorov wrote, “Communists (1927) did not call Hitler’s Party ‘Nazis’ because they did not want their people to know the truth about the ‘socialist’ and ‘worker’ aspects of Hitler’s Party.”

    Given the narrow breadth of your historical knowledge on WWII, I genuinely take it as a high compliment when you comically announce that I am “pathetic imposter.” To help you escape even a fraction of self-imposed delusion, which I do not feel is possible, please consider actually reading the Haaretz “link” below before denouncing it ?

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/books/a-red-cloak-and-dagger-saga-1.38054

    Post scriptum: I hope you have survived having read “Anon’s” (N.Y.C.-style) blunt, patriotic, intelligent, and truthful comments. As I humanely said to you before, Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dog, you can not handle anything but Zionist-approved Truth.

  310. LOL says:
    @geokat62

    Netanyahu really loves to quote ancient grudges.

    *******************

    In a meeting with Putin in Moscow, Netanyahu said Persia had made “an attempt to destroy the Jewish people that did not succeed” some 2,500 years ago, an event commemorated through the Jewish holiday of Purim, which Israel will celebrate starting Saturday night and lasting in some places until Monday.

    “Today there is an attempt by Persia’s heir, Iran, to destroy the state of the Jews,” Netanyahu said. “They say this as clearly as possible and inscribe it on their ballistic missiles.”

    Adopting a conciliatory tone, Putin said that the events described by Netanyahu had taken place “in the fifth century B.C.”

    “We now live in a different world. Let us talk about that now,” Putin said.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  311. LOL says:
    @Anon

    The funniest part of Cuomo’s excellent adventure in ass-kissing:

    (CNN)Authorities have determined that tombstones disturbed at a historic Jewish cemetery in New York this weekend were damaged by environmental causes and not by vandalism.
    A New York City Police Department hate-crime task force had been investigating whether the damage to the granite and marble tombstones at Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn was intentional.

    The task force concluded its investigation on Sunday, finding that the cause was environmental, which can include soil erosion and lack of maintenance.

    ************

    • Replies: @Z-man
  312. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    I think that I will have to start referencing you as Sams.

    Have you not paid any attention to my comments in our exchanges? Is my writing so poor that you think that you need to write something like this:

    The elites have always ruled.

    Of course the elites have always ruled and always will. That’s not the problem. The problem is that the sewer pond scum elites like the Koch brothers and the Romneyites are going to be able to block most of Trump’s economic initiatives.

    SO to woodchuck:

    Re-read this article by PG and substitute warmongers for dastardly Jews.

    I don’t think there is anything terribly wrong with the U.S. when viewed over a longer arc of time.

    Nothing is wrong if you use a long enough time frame.

    underbelly of a nascent programme to globalise the world and certain age groups

    Yes, and said structural economic changes and globalization didn’t fall from the fucking sky. And it sure as hell is no accident as to which groups are being fornicated.

    they, amongst all people, keep this country dynamic

    We don’t want dynamic, we want peace and prosperity.

    Let’s take a page from our eveready Canadian, he of endless questions fame who spends all of his time worrying about the US’s problems with the lobby/Lobby.

    With full use of 20/20 hindsight:

    Was the launching of 2nd Iraq war in the interest of the American people?

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Sam Shama
  313. @Anon

    Okay, I was trying to be nice. In reality I think clowns like Cuomo crawling to Bibi so they can kiss his ass and ask for advice are disgusting.

    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sam Shama
  314. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Far better, from this particular one. Not so much from the kvetchers

  315. geokat62 says:
    @iffen

    Was the launching of 2nd Iraq war in the interest of the American people?

    Holy shit, iffen, what are you trying to do putting this type of question to Sam Shama… upend my understanding of the space-time continuum?

    We don’t want dynamic, we want peace and prosperity.

    You just explained why I “spend all of [my] time worrying about the US’s problems with the lobby/Lobby.”

  316. annamaria says:
    @RobinG

    Thank you for reminding about Vanessa Beeley, Eva Bartlett, and Tulsi Gabbard – the courageous, principled, highly intelligent women – vs. the spineless, opportunistic, petty kind populating the MSM.
    The “rebels” have been sanctified for the main purpose of rationalizing (1). the theft of Syria’s natural resources and (2). the theft of the Golan Heights. Is not it great that the new technology allows us to revisit the propaganda opuses of the war profiteers and pitiful little logs struggling for their paycheck by producing obvious loss.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  317. annamaria says:
    @annamaria

    that was supposed to be “by producing the obvious lies”

  318. annamaria says:

    News from Aleppo: “A little joy returns to Aleppo. Public buses in Aleppo take to the streets after 5 years of Obama’s ISIS war on Syria” http://theduran.com/aleppo-slowly-returns-normal-stable-life-watch-public-buses/

  319. Clyde says:
    @annamaria

    In his musings Corvinus is even more ridiculous than you with your mono-mania, one trick pony shtick. In his favor, at least he diversifies. Corvinus is not consumed by a mono-mania. I am an impartial judge of such matters.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  320. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Keith says:

    “Ok, I was trying to be nice”

    Phil, thank you for replying to my post.

    By the way… you were very nice. Cuomo may be a clown, but you have to admit he is a smart clown. No New York politician can get elected to a high level NY government position, unless they kiss International Jewry’s ass. Including Bibi’s ass.

    Sadly, this is the same situation with most of our congressional offices, presidential cabinet positions, and even the US presidency.

    I lived in Jewyork for over 54 years and when people outside of New York ask me about the “Big Apple” I reply;

    New York is unlike any other city. In fact, it is a Zionist country inside the US. It is the capital of International Jewry.

    It is not a coincident that the financial capital of the US and the world, and the Zio main stream media is located in the Big Apple.

    I moved from NY because the Apple is corrupt to the core. The center of the spoiled Apple is Wall Street and MSM. America will never be “Great Again” unless we cut out the rotten core.

    Trump is not the right man to do what is needed. He is the last hope for the Globalists.

    “Drain the Swamp” no way! Trump picked alligators for his cabinet, and now has released them in the swamp.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  321. annamaria says:
    @Clyde

    “I am an impartial judge of such matters.”
    Doubtful, since your unsolicited comment smacks of misogyny.

  322. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    Originally, Professor Martin made this claim —> “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent. So according to an analysis of the 1830 census by Jewish historians, Jews were more than twice as likely, on a percentage basis, to own slaves.”

    There are several problems here. First, the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation. Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy? One must delve into the number of Jewish families who were wealthy and owned slaves and who were wealthy and did not own slaves, and compare them to whites in the same two categories. Martin ought to have figures showing correlation of household wealth to slaveowner households and show that indeed Jewish households of the period tended to be be among wealthier households. It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner. Third, Martin claims that this number came from Jewish historians, but from what particular source? Why should we automatically assume that this statistic is valid if Martin did not offer exactly where it came from and how it was generated, given that Jews are allegedly liars and thieves?

    Martin also took this statement from one of the Jewish sources “In 1820, over 75% of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves”, but conveniently left out the year and specific localities. In other words, he purposely misrepresented information and made it appear that 75% of all Jewish families in the South owned slaves. Then when Louis Mr. Farrakhan made the statement that “75 percent of the slaves owned in the South were owned by Jewish slaveholders”, there was no “slip of the tongue” despite Martin’s white knighting. In fact, an author that Farrakhan claimed to “agree with everything we said in The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews” vigorously contested that charge and offered evidence to the contrary.

    Winthrop D. Jordan’s article in the Atlantic, “Slavery and the Jews,stated “In order to assess such a claim, one must resort to details. Martin’s purported actuality [the 75% statistic] is wrong on its face if applied to the “white population” of the United States “as a whole,” because in 1830 only a handful of white northerners still owned slaves. Jews were concentrated in the North, and they constituted a very small minority there. Even if the statement is taken as applying only to the states in the American South that had not adopted gradual emancipation laws, it remains badly flawed. A careful and honest footnote in The Secret Relationship reveals that “Jewish scholars” had concluded that Jews in the South lived mostly in towns and cities. Neither this book nor Martin’s explains the significance of this fact. In actuality, slave ownership was much more common in southern urban areas than in the southern countryside. The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion. It is also the case that urban slaveholders of whatever background owned fewer slaves on average than rural slaveholders, including those on large plantations. Thus the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis. In this instance, as in so many others, the statistical data do not stand up and cry out their own true significance.”

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Chuck Orloski
  323. HdC says:
    @utu

    The Germantown anti-slavery protest in 1688 was organized by 4 immigrants from Germany, and the majority of the residents of that settlement were from Germany and Holland. A modicum of googling will disclose this. Wikipedia downplays this by emphasizing the Quaker and Mennonite connection. It appears that a fair number of Quakers were German, something that I didn’t know.

    Anti-slavery laws existed in the Holy Roman Empire since the 1200’s. If on the periphery of that society some slavery did occur, that does not negate the German distaste for such anti-human action. HdC

    • Replies: @utu
  324. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    Of course “Sam Shama” is itself an anagram for “Amass ham”; was this the message? Or do you wish to be known as “Hamas Sam”? Or if you are in fact not a Jew but an Indian (Muslim?), “Assam ham”? “Mama’s ash” suggests filial piety, but in a culture practicing cremation, thus excluding both Muslims and (most) Jews.

    I am sure many eagerly await the solution of this anagrammatic enigma.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  325. @geokat62

    You got booted from Antiwar.com like everyone else in the unz.com threads because you’re an idiot. Non-donating, free loading pinko idiot.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  326. @Sam Shama

    “When I took my citizenship test, one of the questions was, “are you a member of a neo-Nazi or were you in the past a member of the Nazi.”

    Dear Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg,

    I do not know the date when you took the “citizenship test” question, (described above),
    but it seems quite outdated, irrelevant. A basic history question. Do you recall how “Operation Paperclip” facilitated the entrance of former-Nazi scientists into the U.S.A.?

    A more investigative “citizenship test” questions would be, 1.) Do you agree that the Israeli attack on the USS liberty was a misunderstanding?” 2.) “Do you have any association with the Mossad who had foreknowledge of the 9-11 terror attacks?”

    Would not surprise me to one day learn that the Mossad recruits Neo-Nazis (“Skinheads”) to do stupid & evil things like toppling tombstones. Otherwise, so marginalized & monitored, they drink lots of beer in “dive” bars, and “Skinheads” would be hard pressed to accurately toss snowballs at Cuomo’s passing limo and get away with it. (sigh) As even a “Jew for Everyone” (like you) might admit, the U.S. support neo-Nazi political operations in the Ukraine!

    Post scriptum To Anon: Thanks for mentioning Q. Tarantino’s castrated history film, “Inglorious Bastards.” Your having asked the Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg, “Are you the Bat Jew” must have cracked him in the nuts! Also, I am very pleased that author Phil Giraldi issued a comment which showed respect for your extraordinary intelligence and revulsion for Hasbara deception.

  327. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Second, if one says rawly that “75 percent of Jewish households owned slaves, according to the 1830 census”, was the possession of slaves due to the fact of being Jew or being wealthy?… It could just be a coincidental correspondence between economic status and slaveowner rather than religion and slaveowner.

    I’m afraid you’re going to have to expand on this point a bit further. I’m not following why this should make a difference or have an impact on the accuracy of the statistic?

    The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or religion.

    Again, why is this of significance in terms of the accuracy of the statistic. Like the prior point, it seems more of a justification than a refutation.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  328. geokat62 says:
    @Ace of Hearts

    You got booted from Antiwar.com like everyone else in the unz.com threads because you’re an idiot. Non-donating, free loading pinko idiot.

    Sherm, is that you?

  329. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Really, there is no need for polite replies just “to be nice” to me. Matter of fact, before I stumbled upon the UR, debates of note in which I was a participant, roundly expected commonplace courtesies, all acrimony properly attired in wit and decorum. It’s a bridge too far I realised, for the bedraggled infantry to cross over in this acrid patch.

    They remind me oddly of fish in that acrid patch; opening and shutting their mouths, always the same words, seething; never articulate, but invariably churlish when they swallow the unwelcome proposal to explain what on earth they meant.

    Take for instance this matter of the Logan Act; Flynn or Cuomo, which among the two violated the Act?

    Noting sir, the small matter of your personal distaste for Flynn of whom you wrote “Others, to include Michael Flynn the National Security Advisor and Nikki Haley as U.N. Ambassador, unfortunately, did manage to squeak through and will presumably be well placed to wreak havoc over the next four years”, leaves your reader facing the curious dilemma as to why Flynn gets pedestaled in this piece whereas Cuomo gets the lash.

    We shan’t mention – at least not with any mind to pay serious thought – the bedlam rising from the backbenches about Adelson. So again, why does Cuomo get the lash? I understand you find his chumminess with Bibi cringeworthy, yet the Governor’s meeting with the PM over matters related to the security of his State and City stand in perfect concordance with the law. And Israel in not a nation we are engaged in any dispute with.

    A plain reading of the Logan Act flags Flynn’s meeting with Putin as troubling; as one between a private citizen discussing [by his own admission], national security matters. Which is why he got sacked.

    So I say to the fish: contain the predictable gulps and look at things objectively.

    • Replies: @iffen
  330. Z-man says:
    @LOL

    LOL. Edited, ‘Cuomo’s excellent ass kissing adventure.’
    Man the vast majority of whores err…I mean politicians are owned by the chosen few. Geesh, makes you wanna wish for the ‘Second Coming’ and I certainly ain’t no Christian Zionist. (Grin)

    The power of the Cabal is immense.

  331. @Corvinus

    “The relatively high proportion of Jewish slaveholding was a function of of the concentration of Jews in cities and towns, not of their descent or their religion.”

    Dear Corvinus,

    I don’t really care how you spend your time, but can you pause a moment & please tell me why the fuck you are so obsessed with transforming Mr. Giraldi’s fantastic article “Cheerleading for Israel” into a forum on the well documented Jewish involvement with the trans-Atlantic slave trade?

    Were AIPAC “cheerleaders” around during the profitable 19th century slavery days, I project that many Abolitionist Congressmen would have been handsomely compensated to pass legislation that would make the righteous Underground Railroad run two (2) ways, back & forth, so that only non-criminal/skilled slaves could get “emancipated.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  332. @Corvinus

    Victim cult ideology is recognized and supported by the US federal government and Israeli government.

    Here’s an example:

    http://www.unk.edu/offices/human_resources/aaeo/hiring_guidelines/identification_of_protected.php

    Identification of Protected Class Groups

    The following five groups are considered “Protected Classes” under various federal laws. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) requires reporting employment information on the first two groups, females and minorities, which are traditionally underutilized.

    1.FEMALES

    2.INDIGENOUS MINORITIES. Groups for whom established patterns of discrimination have been determined to exist (based on self-identification):

    •Black: (not Hispanic origin): All persons having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.

    •Hispanic: All persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.

    •American Indian or Alaskan Native: All persons having origins in any of the original peoples of North America, and who maintain cultural identification through tribal affiliation or community recognition.

    •Asian or Pacific Islander: All persons having their origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, the Indian Subcontinent or the Pacific Islands. For example: China, Japan, Korea, the Philippine Islands and Samoa.

    3.INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES: Defined as an individual who has a physical or mental impairment that constitutes a substantial limitation on a major life activity, a person with record of such an impairment, or a person who is perceived as having such an impairment. The law also protects those who are in a relationship or associated with someone with a disability.

    4.VETERANS AND DISABLED VETERANS

    5.PERSONS AGE 40 OR OVER.

    Last Update: 5/2003

    Critics say the special status of Jewish nationality has been a way to undermine the citizenship rights of non-Jews in Israel, especially the fifth of the population who are Arab. Some 30 laws in Israel specifically privilege Jews, including in the areas of immigration rights, naturalization, access to land and employment.

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/lawsuit-challenges-israels-discriminatory-citizenship-definition/8767

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  333. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    It’s a bridge too far I realised, for the bedraggled infantry to cross over in this acrid patch.

    We can read, you know.

    I understand you find his chumminess with Bibi cringeworthy

    It is unbecoming for a Governor to disrespect the current President, and our country, by meeting with Bibi after Bibi’s recent bringing to heel our previous President regarding the exact amount of foreign aid due Israel.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  334. @Anon

    “he is the last hope for the Globalists.”

    WOW, Anon (Keith)!

    You’re stream of “unspeakable” facts are liable to put Sam Shama, “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” into either cardiac arrest or an emergency Thought Police response !

    F.Y.I., I’ve been reading the Wall Street Journal lately, and I specifically recall an article that described Donald Trump’s close confidante, (?) Scaramucci’s speech to the Davos assembly, 2017. With China’s leader, Xi Xinping, in the audience, Mr. Scaramucci opined, “President Trump is the last hope for Globalists.” (Sorry that I wrote with haste & likely misspelled Scar’s name and failed to remember his baptismal name)

    Your 54 years lived in Jewyork resulted in the passing on of great wisdom. Thank you from Scranton, PA, where the nation’s 2nd largest St. Patrick’s Day parade will take place tomorrow.

    (Note: I am curious if U.S. Senator Bobby Casey (Scranton native) will be in attendance at the big parade and drum up local D.N.C. Trump Hate? If so, University of Scranton students who partake in beer, had better “watch what they say” because Senator Casey was the legislator who sponsored legislation to patrol “anti-semitic” speech on U.S. campuses)

  335. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Sorry just saw this comment. You wrong me Iffen! :0)

    I think that I will have to start referencing you as Sams.

    Have you not paid any attention to my comments in our exchanges? Is my writing so poor that you think that you need to write something like this:

    Of course, I have, and your writing is impeccable. I merely thought your very last sentence [we had a good run] contained an implicit sigh and you were losing hope on America. My inner realist rose to the surface

    The problem is that the sewer pond scum elites like the Koch brothers and the Romneyites are going to be able to block most of Trump’s economic initiatives.

    They won’t be successful. Naturally there’s going to be some horse trading but Trump knows the deal our hinterland needs. Infrastructure projects are going to be unleashed. This is the cornerstone of Steve Bannon’s plan and I estimate it is an early 2018 agenda. Wall in the south happens 3rd quarter this year. Trump is no fool, nor Bannon and Kushner and they will have all of it done. Gary Cohn is of the same mind.

    Yes, and said structural economic changes and globalization didn’t fall from the fucking sky. And it sure as hell is no accident as to which groups are being fornicated.

    Certainly globalisation or any economic policy for that matter has frictional costs which tend to vanish with time. On the cultural front, I don’t think we are talking about a total cultural monochromaticity tomorrow, but if there is one thing I spot in the generations younger than my own, and I speak for the younger set the world over, they are nothing like the samples one would encounter on the UR. They are a smart lot; principled, open-minded, deeply caring for the shared values of humanity and above all extremely grounded. They want a world of their own choosing and shreiks from the older generations will not make them budge. This may not be my wish, [in fact I am a localist and a Monarchist to boot] but as I have repeated, I am a realist.

    We don’t want dynamic, we want peace and prosperity.

    Like the Hobbit? I do too, which is why my time spent with my horses are the best….

    Let’s take a page from our eveready Canadian, he of endless questions fame who spends all of his time worrying about the US’s problems with the lobby/Lobby.

    Certainly. I like him; smart fellow, reminds me of a classmate we used to affectionately call Rover, never used to let go of the bone and so forth don’t you know….

    Was the launching of 2nd Iraq war in the interest of the American people?

    Course not. Thought you understood I was looking for a good mix up which I have done here in the past and tend to do when things get too ho-hum. So steady on old chap.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @geokat62
  336. iffen says:

    By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS APRIL 28, 2016, NY Times

    WASHINGTON — President Obama has proposed granting Israel the largest package of military aid ever provided by the United States to another nation, but he and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu remain deeply at odds over a figure for the assistance despite months of negotiations.

    Out in the acrid hinterland, this here is what we call a dispute. I mean, people get kilt over money ereday.

    Logan Act per Wiki:

    § 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

    Any citizen of the United States … directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof … in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States …

    I wonder if any Muricans met with Bibi or other Israeli officials before the aid legislation was passed and signed.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  337. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    Oh, that’s not fair. If you use your name or even your usual handle I could give it a spin. Have fun: I’ll even allow you more combinations with the version we used three generations ago, which would have rendered my family name Schama, so Samuel Avner Schama.

    • Replies: @Anon
  338. utu says:
    @HdC

    “German distaste for such anti-human action.” – Are you a child with a German fetish? Believe me, German sh..t stinks like everybody else’s.

    All countries in Europe, including those on German lands, and various segments of their societies were involved in slavery in Middle Ages. Actually w/o German participation moving of slaves from East to West would not be possible. For instance:

    As German rulers of Saxon dynasties took over the enslavement (and slave trade) of Slavs in the 10th century, Jewish merchants bought slaves at the Elbe, sending caravans into the valley of the Rhine. Many of these slaves were taken to Verdun, which had close trade relations with Spain. Many would be castrated and sold as eunuchs as well.

    Here you can read a whole book about slavery in Germany:

    Slavery in Germanic Society During the Middle Ages, Agnes M. Wergeld, Journal of Political Economy
    https://books.google.com/books?id=NlRLAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=Slavery+in+Germany+in+the+Middle+Ages&source=bl&ots=YlvvU1EKqI&sig=h2kXNNILBaNhMcb619KpOwYIThE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFqMiW38zSAhVB04MKHUQhBoI4ChDoAQhLMA4#v=onepage&q=Slavery%20in%20Germany%20in%20the%20Middle%20Ages&f=false

    A slave marriage ceremony from early medieval Germany: A note and a document in translation
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01440399508575159?journalCode=fsla20

    The Germantown anti-slavery petition was consistent with the fact that the petitioners were Quakers. Some of them were former Mennonites from Germany who became Quakers after arriving to America. It was their christian faith that motivated them and not their German identity that in the era before the birth of nationalism must have been still very weak.

    Grow up.

    • Replies: @HdC
  339. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Well, that is not a dispute. It’s Bibi overreaching. Secondly, I still don’t completely understand – I certainly wish that aid discontinued, for it means little from an economic perspective and only earns Israel more antipathy. Why does the U.S give aid to the following nations?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid

    • Replies: @iffen
  340. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Social Evolution Forum

    The End of Prosperity: Why Did Real Wages Stop Growing in the 1970s?

    Something happened in the 1970s.

    During most of the 20th century—until the 1970s—wages of American workers grew much faster than inflation. In the half-century after 1927 real wages of unskilled labor increased by a factor of 3.5, while wages of manufacturing workers, expressed in inflation-adjusted dollars, increased 4-fold. Then came a break. Last year, 2012, real wages of both unskilled and manufacturing workers were actually lower than in 1978.

    Certainly globalisation or any economic policy for that matter has frictional costs which tend to vanish with time.

    Forty years, Sam, just how much fricking frictional time do you need?

    Plus 5 more, do I need to go and get the proof of exploding wage growth in the last 5?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  341. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Sam Shama

    My “usual handle” is consonantal, so nothing useful there. From one form of my name “Berry Namer” can be obtained, or the suggestive “NY Reb Armer”. “Anon” is pretty much a dead end unless you want to link it to “The Cruise of the Nona”.

    Still waiting for that mysterious anagram (from “You’ll gather” etc. arise many things, far too many actually; “Not an ugly army —- —-” being my favourite barring the one in a comment above). That’s the trouble with anagrams: always too many answers.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  342. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Historically, empires made payments and bribes to leaders of rambunctious states while some states paid tribute. Frequently the bribes became tribute and who was paying tribute and who was supposed to pay to whom and how much was often “disputed.” In any case, did any of the other states on your list refuse the offered amount and conduct “negotiations” in public over the amount for many months?

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  343. Hey iffen!

    Are you OK? (sigh) You guys are identical twins; iffen like the crooked D.N.C., and Sam Shama like the crooked R.N.C.!

    (Humph) Are you attempting to throw me off base, and persuade me to think there’s an ideological difference going on between you and S.S?

    (sigh) The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg pontificated, “Bibi is overreaching.” Jeezuz… I ain’t buying that! “Bibi” never has to stoop so low because his demands and actions are gradually governed by Wall Street, and President Trump must obey or else he’s “out” like Flynn(t).

    Anyway, iffen, I’d sincerely like to intervene & help patch things up between you two Love Birds. Below you’ll find an article that covers the 1st domestic act of terror! Although the writer forgot about the terrorist murder of President John F. Kennedy @ Dealey Plaza, the article discusses the (March 1977) Hanafi Muslim siege at BNaiBrith Institute, Washington, D.C.

    At the time, Shah Pahlavi was Iran’s good despot, approved by the U.S. and Israel, and he helped bring the siege to an end. Given there’s any real dispute going on, I pray that you and S.S. will make up and mooch… no no, I regressed and meant to say “smooch.” Thanks and please refer to the historical article, “linked” below?

    http://wtop.com/dc/2017/03/one-first-acts-serious-domestic-terrorism-1977/slide/1/

    • Replies: @iffen
  344. Corvinus says:
    @Joe Franklin

    “Victim cult ideology is recognized and supported by the US federal government and Israeli government.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> For various reasons, the American people, through their representatives, consented to ensure that Constitutional rights ought to be specifically guaranteed to specific groups due to past actions. Designations focus on race, color, religion, national origin, age, sex, pregnancy, citizenship, familial status, disability status, veteran status, and genetic information. White people in particular benefit from said designations.

  345. Corvinus says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    “I don’t really care how you spend your time, but can you pause a moment & please tell me why the fuck you are so obsessed with transforming Mr. Giraldi’s fantastic article “Cheerleading for Israel” into a forum on the well documented Jewish involvement with the trans-Atlantic slave trade?”

    Because a couple of posters here thought they could defend questionable statistics regarding Jewish involvement in slavery and get away with it.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  346. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “I’m afraid you’re going to have to expand on this point a bit further. I’m not following why this should make a difference or have an impact on the accuracy of the statistic?”

    Was it 75% of all Jewish households that owned slaves or was it 75% of all wealthy Jewish households that owned slaves. If there are 100 Jewish families, and 75 owned slaves, that would indicate widespread ownership among this group. If there were 100 Jewish families, with 60 of them wealthy, and 40 of them not wealthy, then one would investigate further if they owned slaves. If 45 of the 60 who were wealthy owned slaves (75% of wealthy Jews owned slaves), and 30 of the 40 who were not wealthy did not own slaves (75% of not wealthy Jews did not own slaves), then these are two distinct statistics.

    You still have much explaining to do. How do you account that the 1830 census did NOT specify slaveholders and their religious affiliation? What is the source or sources that Martin claims came from Jewish historians regarding this 75% figure? To what extent was their research accurate? How do you account Martin for failing to consider that the 75% figure from 1820 did NOT represent all Jewish households who owned slaves in the entire South, it ONLY represented those Jewish households who owned slaves in three southern cities? And what about the facts I submitted into evidence regarding the other historians who dispute the contentions made by Martin and Farrakhan? How do you refute their positions on this matter?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @geokat62
    , @geokat62
  347. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Hey crow-eater,

    How disingenuous can you become? You admit that in three cities of the South with heavy Jewish populations 75% of Jewish families owned slaves.

    Yet you call the fellow who says over 70% of Jewish families owned slaves a “liar”.

    I can’t even.

    @people in general: Don’t waste your time. “Corvinus” seeks primarily to get you to waste your time, and so far seems to be succeeding. Just put him, her, it, or them on “ignore” and you will lose nothing of substance.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  348. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    How do you refute their positions on this matter?

    There is an old saying in statistics: torture the numbers long enough and they’ll confess.

    This all started by your claiming that I was a liar for stating the following:

    The figure tjm quoted (70% of Jewish families owned slaves) is accurate according to Professor Tony Martin who informs us that this information comes from Jewish sources.

    I still stand by the veracity of this statement.

    What is clear is you take issue with the figure of 75%. I get it. One can poke holes in any figure that is put out there. You yourself proposed an alternate statistic of a fraction of one percent. This statistic, however, is problematic because it was based on the faulty premise that the problem we were trying to solve was to demonstrate the proportion of slaves owned by Jews, instead of the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves.

    That said, I ask again, what statistic do you propose as being more suitable than the 75% statistic for the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830/1840s and what sources can you cite that are more robust than the sources cited in TSR, to support your proposed statistic?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  349. geokat62 says:
    @Sam Shama

    iffen rocks my world by putting to Sam Shama the same query I put to him:

    Was the launching of 2nd Iraq war in the interest of the American people?

    To which Sam responds:

    Course not. Thought you understood I was looking for a good mix up which I have done here in the past and tend to do when things get too ho-hum. So steady on old chap.

    So, Sam, instead of honestly answering the same question I originally put to you, you decided to toy with me and respond by citing The Hitch’s feeble attempt at justifying the unjustifiable. All because you like to get the dumb goy to chase their tails when things are getting a bit too ho-hum?

    Quite the remarkable character trait, old chap.

    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @Sam Shama
  350. Jett Rucker says: • Website

    Evidence of (yet) further inroads into the power structure of America may be seen in the (unannounced, not even after the fact) of Amazon to expunge over 70 titles (see my website by clicking my name) documenting the thousands of ways the standard Holocaust story MUST be doubted. E.g., gas chambers.

    Amazon has resisted these calls for decades. But now, we’ve got Trump, and his hatchet man, Jared Kushner.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  351. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Anyway, iffen, I’d sincerely like to intervene

    I gave you a shout out in one of my comments re reading the article.

    Get on back to fantasizing about those cheerleaders who never paid you any attention before I try to slip the x rated version of my comment by the censor because I am in a real kerfuffle, triggered to the max and devoid of safe spaces.

    RE: 88 prop, maxed out until next year thanks to all the helpful 88s in the comment section here at Unz.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  352. Seraphim says:
    @LOL

    Very few mentions were made of the ‘gift’ presented by Putin to Netanyahu, and none about the veiled message of the gesture.

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday gave visiting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a copy of Josephus Flavius’ ‘The Jewish War’ which was printed in Tuscany, Italy, in 1526, the Kremlin press service announced…
    ‘The Jewish War’ (Latin Bellum Judaicum or De Bello Judaico) was Josephus’ first work after arriving in Rome, following the repression of the Great Revold of the year 70. In 78 CE he finished the seven-volume account in Greek. It starts with the period of the Maccabees and concludes with accounts of the fall of Jerusalem, and the succeeding fall of the fortresses of Herodion, Macharont and Masada and the Roman victory celebrations in Rome, the mopping-up operations, Roman military operations elsewhere in the Empire and the uprising in Cyrene”…
    @http://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/putin-gives-netanyahu-500-year-old-copy-of-the-jewish-war/2017/03/10/

    The Jewish war is about the folly of the Jewish Zealots (precursors of the Zionists) who rebelled against Roman rule believing that “At about that time, one from their country would become ruler of the habitable world.”  It led to the destruction of the Temple and the annihilation of the Jewish state.

  353. Sam Shama says:
    @Anon

    [that’s the trouble with anagrams: always too many answers.]

    Yes indeed, and tbh it was rather silly of me to have thought anyone could have possibly gotten it, it being the result of a partial anagram coined by our debating union group to signal the end of all further meaningful exchange, with only playfulness and subterfuge remaining. ‘In the fullness of time’ came to be that expression which someone anagrammed ‘I’m [an] effluent loss’ — There you have it Berry Namer. Are you a NY Reb?

    🙂

  354. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    [do I need to go and get the proof of exploding wage growth in the last 5?]

    No, you don’t. Fully aware of the numbers which really started disintegrating after St. Reagan destroyed labour’s bargaining power.

    There’s a meeting of minds there, on the issue of labour’s share of income between Trump and Bernie which people did not necessarily catch on to.

  355. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    What is the source or sources that Martin claims came from Jewish historians regarding this 75% figure?

    Excerpt from The Secret Relationship between Blacks and Jews (pp. 129-30):

    Ira Rosenwaike analyzed the 1820 data which indicates the number of domestic slaves held by Jews:

    The Jewish population in 1820 is concentrated in a few principle towns, in particular the five centers which then had functioning congregations; New York, Philadelphia, Charleston, Richmond and Savannah… In Charleston, Richmond and Savannah the large majority (over three-fourths) of the Jewish households contained one or more slaves; in Baltimore only one out of three households were slaveholding; in New York, one out of eighteen… Among the slaveholding households the median number of slaves owned ranged from five in Savannah to one in New York.

    Rosenwaike, whose Jewish population studies have been published in the major Jewish historical journals, has recently analyzed the 1971 population studies of Lee Soltow. Rosenwaike does not dispute Soltow’s startling findings:

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.695

    Footnotes:

    695 Rosenwaike, Edge of Greatness, p. 66. Also Lee Soltow, “Economic Inequality in the United States in the Period from 1790 to 1860,” Journal of Economic History, vol. 31 (1971), pp. 825-26; Korn, “Jews and Negro Slavery,” p. 183: “The proportion of Jewish slave-owners, then, was possibly even larger than that of non-Jews, since the overwhelming majority of Southern Jews lived in the towns and cities,”

    btw – tried procuring Rosenwaike’s Edge of Greatness, but it’s not available on Amazon.

  356. RobinG says:
    @geokat62

    Like my crewmate said as we rowed across the Beaufort channel against the tide, “Well….we’re closer than we’ve ever been before.” (Thank you, Rand Paul. :))

    For Immediate Release
    March 10, 2017

    GABBARD’S STOP ARMING TERRORISTS ACT INTRODUCED IN SENATE

    [MORE]

    Washington, DC—Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s Stop Arming Terrorists Act has been introduced in the U.S. Senate by Senator Rand Paul. The bipartisan legislation (H.R.608 and S.532) would prohibit any Federal agency from using taxpayer dollars to provide weapons, cash, intelligence, or any support to al-Qaeda, ISIS and other terrorist groups, and it will prohibit the government from funneling money and weapons through other countries who are directly or indirectly supporting terrorists.

    The legislation is currently cosponsored by Reps. John Conyers (D-MI), Scott Perry (R-PA), Peter Welch (D-VT), Tom Garrett (R-VA), Thomas Massie (R-KY), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Walter Jones (R-NC), Ted Yoho (R-FL), and Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and endorsed by Progressive Democrats of America (PDA), Veterans for Peace, and the U.S. Peace Council.

    “For years, the U.S. government has been supporting armed militant groups working directly with and often under the command of terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda in their fight to overthrow the Syrian government. Rather than spending trillions of dollars on regime change wars in the Middle East, we should be focused on defeating terrorist groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda, and using our resources to invest in rebuilding our communities here at home,” said Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. “The fact that American taxpayer dollars are being used to strengthen the very terrorist groups we should be focused on defeating should alarm every Member of Congress and every American. We call on our colleagues and the Administration to join us in passing this legislation.”

    “One of the unintended consequences of nation-building and open-ended intervention is American funds and weapons benefiting those who hate us,” said Dr. Rand Paul. “This legislation will strengthen our foreign policy, enhance our national security, and safeguard our resources.”

    Background: The Stop Arming Terrorists Act prohibits U.S. government funds from being used to support al-Qaeda, ISIS or other terrorist groups. In the same way that Congress passed the Boland Amendment to prohibit the funding and support to CIA backed-Nicaraguan Contras during the 1980’s, this bill would stop CIA or other Federal government activities in places like Syria by ensuring U.S. funds are not used to support al-Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, ISIS, or other terrorist groups working with them. It would also prohibit the Federal government from funding assistance to countries that are directly or indirectly supporting those terrorist groups. The bill achieves this by:

    · Making it illegal for any U.S. Federal government funds to be used to provide assistance covered in this bill to terrorists. The assistance covered includes weapons, munitions, weapons platforms, intelligence, logistics, training, and cash.

    · Making it illegal for the U.S. government to provide assistance covered in the bill to any nation that has given or continues to give such assistance to terrorists.

    · Requiring the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) to determine the individual and groups that should be considered terrorists, for the purposes of this bill, by determining: (a) the individuals and groups that are associated with, affiliated with, adherents to or cooperating with al-Qaeda, Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, or ISIS; (b) the countries that are providing assistance covered in this bill to those individuals or groups.

    · Requiring the DNI to review and update the list of countries and groups to which assistance is prohibited every six months, in consultation with the House Foreign Affairs and Armed Services Committees, as well as the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

    · Requiring the DNI to brief Congress on the determinations

    • Replies: @geokat62
  357. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Own up. You like it too; a good mix up that is. And invoking Hitch was a guaranteed draw for this neighbourhood.

    • Replies: @iffen
  358. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    They most certainly lobby hard to get more. All the time, if not quite as brazenly as Bibi. Egypt e.g. with the implicit backing of the House of Saud puts up a good haggle every year. Just that it’s not on the front pages.

    • Replies: @iffen
  359. geokat62 says:
    @RobinG

    Like my crewmate said as we rowed across the Beaufort channel against the tide, “Well….we’re closer than we’ve ever been before.” (Thank you, Rand Paul. :))

    Well, well, well, what do you know… it look like there may be a glimmer of hope, after all. I guess this means I lost the bet. Starbucks on me next time I’m in DC.

  360. @Corvinus

    “Because a couple of posters here thought that they could defend questionable statistics regarding Jewish involvement in slavery and get away with it.”

    Oh, I see now, Corvinus! I hope you get the bastard “posters” and they leave “Cheerleaders for Israel” alone!.

    I certainly appreciate what you do, but have you ever read any mid-19th letters published by the “Bintel Brief”? Very interesting stuff especially for one as determined as you!

    F.Y.I., This publication featured painful (personal) letters written by immigrant Jews who were bewildered by the polyglot society they settled within and often exploited by Gentile port managers who operated New Orleans (ferry boat) transfer stations of blacks from the Congo to upriver Louisiana plantations, owned by former-Irish Catholics who converted to Judaism “for the money advantage.”

    The following is a “Bintel Brief” letter-to-the-editor (dated 1851) and republished by the Jewish Daily Forward which started in 1897, and still survives to this date in N.Y.C. Corvinus, I suggest that you might research the letter’s controversial subject matter, and eventually offer a response to me here on this “thread” exchange which has sort of run amok by “posters” who commit treason by obsessive pursuit of innocent Israeli “cheerleaders” :

    Dear Editor To Bintel Brief:

    I was born in a small town town in Russia, and until I was sixteen I studied in Talmud Torahs and yeshivas, but when my parents moved close to the Ukraine border I changed quickly into a “freethinker” for fear that Orthodox “nuts” would think my skin was too “olive colored” and send me back to Ekaterinberg & become a “serf” in the employ of a superfluous and lazy Russian landowner.

    However, my family paid a bribe to a Czarist immigration officer and I ended up traveling across the Atlantic in a retired whaling boat owned by Newfoundland Jews! They used to hold synagogue on the deck and they even let me be a cantor so that I could chant melodic prayers for all the black slaves who were interred on the ship!. No one knew that the “whaling boat” was really one (1) of ten (10) crafts that delivered thousands of blacks from a Madagascar port to what eventually became known as Fort Sumter, Carolina!

    When I finally reached the New Orleans port, and looking to start a great plantation management career, I was gloomy and depressed when I learned that nineteen (19) secular Jews posed as A-rabs and got their (expletive) names placed ahead of mine. Oy vay! And I complained about the slight to the port’s top Italian immigrant boss. Angry, I said, “This is a crime, Sir, why are you pissing on me? And can’t you tell these so-called Jews are really ragheads?” The wop just laughed and told me, “Ha — so you’ve gotten ‘pissed’ upon, eh? Go get yourself a raincoat and work gloves and report back to me in ten minutes for inhuman dock work!” Dear Bintel Brief” Editor… does he really have the (expletive) right to do this to me?…. I hope you will print my letter and give your opinion.

    Selah,
    Milton Rosenthal, Jr.

    • Replies: @mcohen
  361. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    It is unbecoming for a Governor to disrespect the current President, and our country, by meeting with Bibi after Bibi’s recent bringing to heel our previous President ….

    Cuomo disrespects Trump by flying to Tel Aviv because Trump is smarting from the snubbing Obama received?!!!

    No; you must be right on this one, seeing as this is the first instance of a U.S. governor taking a trip to TA, but more importantly, Trump and Obama are best friends….or …or…something of real gravity like …help me.

    P.S. btw did you miss Bibi’s recent visit to DC, where he invited Trump and several senators and governors for a reciprocal visit?

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @iffen
  362. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Just that it’s not on the front pages.

    I wonder if the peanut gallery could give us ideas on why this might be the case?

  363. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Yes, I do it as well. This one just went over my head.

    Geo does it every time he cuts and pastes “blood and treasure.”

  364. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    our country

    A normal patriot should resent the public bringing to heel of our President. To meet with the foreign leader that did this, so soon after its occurrence, is disrespectful of the Office of the President and of our country.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  365. mcohen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    hi chuck

    did i get a whiff of paki,some curry,a remnant of a rehmat.

    wait a bit i got a sniff…….something my man something.

    fetch the shadows of the moon

    which one of you is connected to the bomb threats and grave stone vandalism.who has got the ouijai on top of the cup .these questions and more to be answered in ripley,s believe it and knot.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @Anon
  366. @iffen

    Hey iffen,

    Look at article, below, and see who might be permitted to come back and domicile in Jewish Hollywood! Who knows? The new Chinese?Hollywood film producers might even like the stuff Roman Polanski does, for one example, “Rosemary’s Baby.”

    http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/10/roman-polanski-to-judge-say-ive-done-my-time-and-ill-come-back/

    Gentile Southern California parents of both elementary & high school age “cheerleaders” best keep an eye on Roman P. when & iffen he returns!

    I hope you successfully “slip in the X-rated comment by” the Unz Review moderator soon, and I also hope you can patch it up with Sam the Sham soon! Why our having two (2) united fools are better than downsizing to only one (1) on Unz article “threads”!

    F.Y.I., Must go now because I am driving bus in today’s Scranton St. Patrick’s day parade! Look forward to reading more of your fascinating confusion.

    Selah.

  367. Corvinus says:
    @Anon

    “How disingenuous can you become? You admit that in three cities of the South with heavy Jewish populations 75% of Jewish families owned slaves.”

    Correct. Was it because of their Jewness or because of their wealth?

    “Yet you call the fellow who says over 70% of Jewish families owned slaves a “liar”.”

    For making the false claim that 70% of all Jewish families in the United States owned slaves. Martin neglects to mention from the source that he used that “of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion—75 percent—were owners of one or more slaves.” So Martin just takes the percent and fails to offer the proper context.

    Are you that much of a dupe?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  368. @mcohen

    “which one of you are connected to the bomb threats and grave stone vandalism.”

    M Cohen,

    As the U.S. President and Department of Justice allowed those who vandalized (took down) down the three (3) W.T.C. towers to remain at-large and in power, it’s very likely that more forensic research is being implemented now in order to catch those connected with “bomb threats and grave stone vandalism.”

    Above is a real good “ouijai” ritualistic one for Ripley’s “Believe it or not” to entertain, eh Cohen?

    Selah!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  369. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    you must be right on this one, seeing as this is the first instance of a U.S. governor taking a trip to TA

    I see the deal.

    Everybody and his brother can pick the facts, events, timelines, personalities, etc. that support his view, ignoring contradictory or non-supporting information, but let me try it and here comes Sam.

    Tweet.

    Unfair!!!

  370. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Martin neglects to mention from the source that he used that “of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion—75 percent—were owners of one or more slaves.” So Martin just takes the percent and fails to offer the proper context.

    Based on my previous comment, I think it is very clear which passage of The Secret Relationship Prof. Martin is citing when he references the 75% statistic. The source of this statistic is Ira Rosenwaike’s Edge of Greatness, in which on page 66, he cites Lee Soltow’s population studies published in 1971, pp 825-26:

    Rosenwaike, whose Jewish population studies have been published in the major Jewish historical journals, has recently analyzed the 1971 population studies of Lee Soltow. Rosenwaike does not dispute Soltow’s startling findings:

    Soltow estimates that 36 percent of the 625,000 families in the South in 1830 were slaveholders. Of the 322 household heads identified in the present study as [Jewish] residents of the same states at this enumeration, a considerably larger proportion – 75 percent – were owners of one or more slaves.695

    695 Rosenwaike, Edge of Greatness, p. 66. Also Lee Soltow, “Economic Inequality in the United States in the Period from 1790 to 1860,” Journal of Economic History, vol. 31 (1971), pp. 825-26; Korn, “Jews and Negro Slavery,” p. 183: “The proportion of Jewish slave-owners, then, was possibly even larger than that of non-Jews, since the overwhelming majority of Southern Jews lived in the towns and cities,”

    Are you that much of a dupe?

    If we are being duped, all you have to do is get hold of these two sources and reproduce the relevant pages to see if they contain the information they are purported to contain.

    We all look forward to seeing the results of your investigation.

    P.S. TSR was penned by the Research Department of the Nation of Islam – i.e., neither by the Minister nor the Prof.

  371. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “There is an old saying in statistics: torture the numbers long enough and they’ll confess.”

    Exactly what you are demonstrating here.

    “You yourself proposed an alternate statistic of a fraction of one percent.”

    No, I did NOT propose this alternative statistic. Another diversion on your part.

    “That said, I ask again, what statistic do you propose as being more suitable than the 75% statistic for the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830/1840s and what sources can you cite that are more robust than the sources cited in TSR, to support your proposed statistic?”

    tjm, who ran away, originally stated that “70% of Jewish families owned slaves” without offering a source. You came to his rescue, stating that a black historian referenced “Jewish historians who have analyzed the 1830 census have discovered that whereas something like 30-odd percent of the white population may have owned one or more slaves in the South, for Jewish households it was over 70 percent.”

    Martin took this statement from one of the Jewish sources “In 1820, over 75% of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves”, but conveniently left out the year and specific localities. So this statistic ONLY pertains to three southern cities, NOT the entire nation.

    Martin states that a Jewish historian used the 1830 census to derive his figures, except the census at that time did not specify slave owners and religious affiliation.

    Martin used Jewish sources we are to automatically believe is accurate, despite Jews being commonly labeled as liars and thieves.

    Martin neglects to consider the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis.

    There were several other related points that I made that you have overtly ignored or yet to offer a cogent rebuttal.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  372. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    well ok, I’ll buy that, but reluctantly

    • Replies: @RobinG
  373. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Hitler fanboy, don’t try too hard

    selah indeed.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @iffen
  374. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @mcohen

    ” These questions and more to be answered in Ripley’s believe it or Knot”

    McCohen are you related to Max Cohen who anglicized his name to Max Cohn?

    I think I am getting a whiff of Lox.

    No… I think I am getting more stench from another Hasbara troll.

    Max Cohen was the Jewish father of
    Frank Collins, the infamous NeoNAZI from the famed Skoki Ill. ACLU first amendment trial.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin

    If you don’t remember this well documented event that got worldwide exposer, it was even played repeatedly on the Zio History Channel, it was about the NAZI Frank Collins who was later outed as being Jewish after being arrested for sexually abusing little boys.

    After this revelation, the Zio media never
    corrected their story and never reported that Collins was a Jewish phony NAZI.

    Mccohen…. you should spend more time investigating the phony Jewish NAZIs
    and less time calling patriotic American school bus drivers NAZIs because they disagree with sending Americans to fight wars for Israel.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @mcohen
  375. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    No, I did NOT propose this alternative statistic. Another diversion on your part.

    Previous exchange:

    geokat62 – No, it is up to you to provide proof the statistic, 75% of Jewish households owned slaves is wrong, not merely misleading, as you originally alleged.

    Corvinus – I called you a liar for a reason. You made a statement–70% of jewish families owned slaves– without even documenting a source. I investigated further and discovered Louis Farrakan made this claim. This claim was disputed by this evidence by a historian–In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. Jews owned only a fraction of 1 percent – thousands, not millions – of the enslaved population.”

    It is now YOUR job to counter this claim.

    So much for the diversion.

    Martin took this statement from one of the Jewish sources “In 1820, over 75% of all Jewish families in Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah owned slaves”, but conveniently left out the year and specific localities. So this statistic ONLY pertains to three southern cities, NOT the entire nation.

    As I stated previously, Prof. Martin cited The Secret Relationship for his assertions, which are based on several Jewish sources (especially Rosenwaike), including these references:

    “In Charleston, Richmond, and Savannah,” he continues, “the overwhelming proportion (over four-fifths) of the Jewish households contained one or more slaves; in New Orleans over three-fifths were slaveholders; in Baltimore, less than one-fifth.”696 Nationwide, “Probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…697″

    Korn, “Jews and Negro Slavery,” p. 183: “The proportion of Jewish slave-owners, then, was possibly even larger than that of non-Jews, since the overwhelming majority of Southern Jews lived in the towns and cities.”

    696 Rosenwaike, Edge of Greatness, p. 66.
    697 Rosenwaike, “Jewish Population of 1820,” p. 18. These figures correspond to data collected seventy years later by the Bureau of the Census which surveyed American Jews. See Raphael, p. 17: “Even more striking: two-thirds of all the Jewish families in the United States had at least one servant! Jews had clearly achieved a comfortable position in American society.”

    So, stepping back, I again emphasize that it is a relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable. The important point to make is this: rather than playing a trivial role in the slave trade and slave ownership, as the Jewish lobbies were endeavouring to do, The Secret Relationship provided incontrovertible evidence that Jews played a significant role in the slave trade as well as slaveownership.

    Now, did as many as 70% of Jewish households own slaves in the 1830/1840s? That number, like any number, can be disputed. But what can’t be disputed, based on the Jewish sources sited in TSR, is this: the proportion of Jewish slaveowners probably exceeded that of non-Jewish slaveowners.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  376. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama

    Atzmon is often long-winded (perhaps understandable in a saxophonist 🙂 ), but here he gets right to the point, (with great wit, and the assistance of Dershowitz), in 5 min.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn1DIPQXoMg&feature=youtu.be
    United Against Freedom
    “In Britain, the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) , a ultra Zionist body, is crudely interfering with elementary human rights. It seems as if the campaign that was formed to fight Jew-hatred, has achieved the complete opposite. These developments can only hurt British Jews…”

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  377. Miro23 says:
    @Jett Rucker

    Evidence of (yet) further inroads into the power structure of America may be seen in the (unannounced, not even after the fact) of Amazon to expunge over 70 titles (see my website by clicking my name). ……………..

    Amazon has resisted these calls for decades. But now, we’ve got Trump, and his hatchet man, Jared Kushner.

    I’d be surprised if Trump was aware of the deletions, but if he was, you’re right that it wouldn’t bother him.

    For example, he knows exactly what happened to the WTC buildings (he’s a New York high rise developer after all – with a recording of his initial reaction) and he happens to be best friends with the people who set it up.

    If books questioning the official 9/11 story also disappeared from Amazon he wouldn’t give it a moment’s notice either. Trump is interested in the power structure that supports Trump, not some airy-fairy notions of Truth and Justice.

    If he has a weakness, it comes from conflicts within this power structure. Being “all things to all men” is a good way to get elected but some supporters are going to be disappointed – it’s just not clear which ones.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  378. @Sam Shama

    “Hitler fanboy, don’t try too hard.”

    Dear Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg,

    As you know by now, any insults I get from you are entirely desirable.

    You can call me anything you so desire because I know WHAT you are… a chickenhawk Jew who wants to dispatch Americans soldier to wars for the sake of Israel.

    Selah.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  379. utu says:
    @Anon

    “McCohen are you related to Max Cohen who anglicized his name to Max Cohn?”

    Jewish literary talent in America has been exhausted in the effort to disguise the name Cohen of which you may find in the New York Telephone Directory no less than twenty-four variations: Cohen, Cohn, Cone, Cunn, Curie, Coan, Coon, Cohene, Cane, Kohn, Kohne, Kohen, Kohene, Kuhn, Kuhne, Kun, Kunn, Koen, Konn, Coone, Cahn, Kone, Kann, and Kahn.

    Now and Forever — A Conversation with Israel Zangwill (New York: Robert M. McBride & Co., 1925)

  380. Svigor says:

    Not all of them. The old Rothbard/Hoppe wing rejected mainstream libertarian dogma on open borders

    Libertardianism is useful as a transition state (many go on to saner things). Remaining there signals uselessness, cowardice, Asperger’s, etc.

    Bottom line: you should be a little more careful next time before accusing people of being liers without be absolutely clear about what they are asserting.

    Just FYI, Corvanus is a lying piece of shit. I say that to save you time.

    Corvanus supporting the Deep State:
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/the-deep-state-targets-trump/#comment-1770517

    Corvanus LARPS as White Nationalist:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/when-work-disappears-manufacturing-decline-and-the-falling-marriage-market-value-of-men/#comment-1781167

    Corvanus defends megacorporations:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/not-wanting-america-to-be-a-colony-of-the-world-is-mccarthyite/#comment-1782084

    Corvanus defends Jewish slave-owners with “because they were rich!”:
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/cheerleading-for-israel/#comment-1792273

    What you won’t find, is a comment from Corvanus criticizing the ongoing Jewish colonialism in Palestine. Corvanus finds centuries-old, long-over European colonialism very salient, mentioning it on a pretty regular basis. But ongoing Jewish colonialism just doesn’t merit mention in his mental universe.

  381. Svigor says:

    BTW have you noticed that “no man can serve two masters” is actually false? And “dual”or “divided” loyalties has always been the reality of most civilised people’s lives? Cf. multiple identities. Most people don”t drive themselves mad trying constantly to reconcile them all.

    I have noticed no such thing. A “master” is an overriding loyalty. “Two Masters” implies two equal loyalties, at the top of one’s hierarchy. IMO it doesn’t exist; one is always greater.

    You’re describing a hierarchy of loyalties, “master” describes the one at the top.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  382. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “So much for the diversion.”

    I am not the creator of this statement–”In 1860, there were about 15,000 Southern Jews and 4 million slaves. If 3 million (75 percent) were so owned, this would mean 200 slaves for every Jewish man, woman and child, or 1,000 slaves for every Jewish head of household. Jews owned only a fraction of 1 percent – thousands, not millions – of the enslaved population.”

    That would be Harold Brackman, who took Lous Farrakhan to task for claiming that Brackman supported the claim that 75% of slaves were held by Jews. I merely referenced Brackman’s quotation.

    “As I stated previously, Prof. Martin cited The Secret Relationship for his assertions, which are based on several Jewish sources (especially Rosenwaike), including these references.”

    A statistic that HE claimed to be nationwide, but in reality was local. Since he misinformed his audience on this particular point, it has lead people to doubt his other claims, as evident by the refutations I provided that you have yet to address.

    And, again, how are we to trust Jewish sources on slavery if people like Martin have other than trust for Jews in general?

    “Probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…”

    Probably, but not a certainty. You do realize that three-fifths of non-Jewish families owned slaves. Praytell, what was the breakdown of each ethnic group or nationality of this group? Was purchasing slaves a sign of one’s ethnic display of superiority or because of the family’s wealth, or both?

    “The proportion of Jewish slave-owners, then, was possibly even larger than that of non-Jews, since the overwhelming majority of Southern Jews lived in the towns and cities.”

    Possibly, indeed. Korn made this conclusion ONLY by offering the proper context–”Another statistical indication of Jewish ownership of slaves, probably more accurate in terms of proportions than the census returns, are references to slaves in Jewish wills. Over the years, Professor Jacob R. Marcus has assembled at the American Jewish Archives, one hundred and twenty-nine wills of identifiable Southern Jews who died during the period of interest. Of these, 33 refer to the ownership and disposition of slaves. [That would mean 96 did NOT own slaves] This would mean, if it is a reliable index, that perhaps one-fourth of Southern Jewish adults were slave owners. [That would mean three-fourths Southern Jewish adults were NOT slave owners]. It is instructive that this matches the federal figures for the 1860 census, namely, that three-fourths of the white population of the South were not slave owners. Equally important, however, is the fact that only one-seventh of Southern Negroes were domiciled in towns and cities.”

    “Even more striking: two-thirds of all the Jewish families in the United States had at least one servant!”

    Servant. Does that mean black slave or white servant? Moreover, would not this statistic indicate that wealthy Jews compared to not wealthy Jews had been more likely to express their status when it comes to outside help? How is their behavior any different to wealthy non-Jews of the same time period? Furthermore, what is the ethnic breakdown of those wealthy Americans who owned slaves from 1820-1860? Would it not be fair to say that, for example, if the Scots-Irish consisted of the largest slave-holding ethnic group, that one could reasonable argue the Scots-Irish was more of a menace to blacks compared to Jews?

    “So, stepping back, I again emphasize that it is a relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable.”

    So only until you realize you were backed into a corner that the statistic suddenly becomes “trivial” and “based on a number of assumptions”. You got your hat handed to you.

    “The important point to make is this: rather than playing a trivial role in the slave trade and slave ownership, as the Jewish lobbies were endeavouring to do, The Secret Relationship provided incontrovertible evidence that Jews played a significant role in the slave trade as well as slaveownership.”

    Some Jews downplay their role in the slave trade, and some non-Jews overstate their role in the slave trade. The Secret Relationship offered evidence that Jews played a role in the slave trade and slave ownership. Significant? Widespread? That depends on one’s point of view.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  383. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG

    Jez Turner is an imbecile as Nazis often are, but I am glad to give him the megaphone if only to speed his demise as a spokesperson for nationalists. England needs a Bannon.

    Gideon Falter errs bringing to bear the weight of the CPS, when clowns are best left alone to invariably lose their voice through normal public disdain. That said, I’d ask Gilad what he thinks of Dershowitz’s little homily to fellow Jews, cherry picking mixing well it seems, with nuttiness and the Saxophone.

  384. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Nazi dipshit, my 1st cousins both served two tours of Aghanistan.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Chuck Orloski
  385. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Nazi dipshit, my 1st cousins both served two tours of Aghanistan.

    Hot damn, smoke’em if you got’em.

  386. @Miro23

    “Trump is interested in the power structure that supports that supports Trump, not some airy-fairy notions of Truth and Justice.”

    Thanks for posting this informative comment and the web site, Miro23!

    The quotation (above) employs the term “power structure” which floats around in my mind like an matter-energy field that our human minds know is there, but our ability to tangibly see the power structure” is stunted like the forbidden books named in the “linked” web site.

    It seems fair to say that Wall Street, the world’s big banks, oligarchs, and multi-billionaires make up the essential core of the “power structure.” Do you agree?

    In addition, in Thursday’s Wall Street Journal, March 9, 2017, there’s a front page (lengthy) article called “Family Offices Blitz The Street,” and written by Das & Chung. Following is a paragraph from the article which I trust you may access and read:

    “On a warm October day in 2014, envoys from 15 of America’s wealthiest families gatered at Circle T, Ross Perot Jr.’s 2,5000-acre ranch out side Dallas… The purpose of the two day retreat was for families to get acquainted and eventually team up to pursue investments.”
    (PARAGRAPH BREAK)
    “bankers take notice… Goldman Sachs bankers last year started paying more attention to “family offices” after realizing they were losing out on merger deals involving such offices… KKR Co. Mr. Jim Burns, leader for individual-investment business asserted, “It’s an ocean of wealth.”

    Miro23 — I now finally return to the point of one’s recognizing the “power structure.”

    First of all, I fully admit that I am aware of my smallness within what Burns described as an “ocean of wealth.” I can not fathom the awesome political influence such holders of this wealth have over President Trump.

    One thing that (I believe) is valid is that 6 out of the 7 “oceans of wealth” desire to waterboard President Vladimir Putin until he obeys what covers > 2/3 of the Earth’s surface — liquidity (H20) I have no guess as to what you might think at this juncture, Miro23, but I would surely appreciate learning.

    Finally, I am not a Karl Marx scholar but I have read his works, in English. I recall how the philosopher noted how under the evolutionary model of capitalism, money (capital) tends to increase and assemble into fewer and fewer hands.

    Although the 1% has made hamburger out of Marx’s revolt, it appears to me that “Family Offices” offer evidence for my political view that no one gets to be POTUS without support of the “power structure” Ann now, Miro23, I end where I started and thanks again!

    Post scriptum: 1.) Regret that I did not take time to find the book where the Karl Marx quote came from. 2.) To “anon” from his comment # 378; F.Y.I., the weird dude’s name is mcohen and is not the Irish-sounding “McCohen” that you mistakenly employed. Danke schon. ‘ .

    • Replies: @Miro23
  387. Many of us who voted from Trump thought he would be less hawkish than Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, such a choice was risky because it is very difficult to predict the foreign policy of an incoming president. Lyndon Johnson ran as the peace candidate against hawk Barry Goldwater, but it was Johnson who dramatically escalated the Vietnam War. Neither of the Bushes were expected to be very hawkish, but they both were. Reagan was not nearly as hawkish as some people expected. Many people thought Nixon would quadruple the military budget and start WWIII, but it didn’t happen.

  388. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    That would be Harold Brackman, who took Lous Farrakhan to task for claiming that Brackman supported the claim that 75% of slaves were held by Jews. I merely referenced Brackman’s quotation.

    Prof. Martin clarified that this was a slip of the tongue, but you insist on repeating it as if he actually believed this to be true.

    And, again, how are we to trust Jewish sources on slavery if people like Martin have other than trust for Jews in general?

    The Jewish sources cited in TSR stand on their own merits and the veracity of these sources can be confirmed, regardless of someone’s level of trust for Jews.

    You do realize that three-fifths of non-Jewish families owned slaves.

    Not sure where you got that stat from. According to the Ira Rosenwaike source (cited in TSR), only 36% of all households owned slaves in 1830.

    Some Jews downplay their role in the slave trade, and some non-Jews overstate their role in the slave trade. The Secret Relationship offered evidence that Jews played a role in the slave trade and slave ownership. Significant? Widespread? That depends on one’s point of view.

    Here is how one critic summarized the significance of The Secret Relationship:

    Historian Ralph A. Austen heavily criticized the book and said that although the book may seem fairly accurate, it is an anti-Semitic book. However, he added that before the publication of The Secret Relationship, some scholars were reluctant to discuss Jewish involvement in slavery because of fear of damaging the “shared liberal agenda” of Jews and African Americans. In that sense, Austen found the book’s aims of challenging the myth of universal Jewish benevolence throughout history to be legitimate even though the means to that end resulted in an anti-Semitic book.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery

    P.S. Before one can determine who was handed his hat, you need to provide a statistic of your own, with supporting sources, for the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830/1840s. I’m still waiting.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Chuck Orloski
  389. @Sam Shama

    “Nazi dispshit, my first cousins both served two tours in Afghanistan,”

    Dear Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg,

    Thanks for calling me “Nazi dipshit” — you always seem to make me feel better!

    Regarding the Afghanistan (military?) service of your two first cousins, you might write to Cuomo and ask him if he would ask the I.D.F. command to give them an honorary “Medal of Valor.” That would be nice.

    Understand also that service “tours” could mean anything ranging from that of U.S. soldiers, to a contractors working on natural gas pipelines, and to the poppy-heroin trade which is back in business since the W. Bush attack which was designed to corner O.B.L. in Tora Bora?

    Thanks again for the so-so “dip shit” crack… I know you can do better!

    Selah.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  390. geokat62 says:
    @Svigor

    BTW have you noticed that “no man can serve two masters” is actually false? And “dual”or “divided” loyalties has always been the reality of most civilised people’s lives?

    It’s quotes like these that prompted me to rechristen the WofO, the Wizard of Sophistry.

  391. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “Prof. Martin clarified that this was a slip of the tongue, but you insist on repeating it as if he actually believed this to be true.”

    Sure, a slip of the tongue. Even if that was true, Farrakhan mouthed off that a Jewish historian supported his claim, and that historian took him to task.

    “The Jewish sources cited in TSR stand on their own merits and the veracity of these sources can be confirmed, regardless of someone’s level of trust for Jews.”

    Good to know for future reference. Those sources may be indeed valid, but the conclusions Martin drew from them could also be other than valid.

    “Not sure where you got that stat from. According to the Ira Rosenwaike source (cited in TSR), only 36% of all households owned slaves in 1830.”

    Pay closer attention. You submitted a quote directly from Rosenwaike, who stated “Probably close to two-fifths of the Jewish families of 1820 owned slaves…”.

    I then replied,”Probably, but not a certainty. You do realize that three-fifths of non-Jewish families owned slaves.” My remark is in reference to Rosenwaike’s conclusion.

    “Here is how one critic summarized the significance of The Secret Relationship”

    The terms “anti-semitic”, “racist”, and “sexist” have been co-opted by the radical left and the reactionary right as to render them useless. While there is merit to Martin’s work, there are also significant holes in his scholarship, as several sources I have offered indicate, which you still have yet to make any substantial remarks about. Interesting, to say the least.

    “P.S. Before one can determine who was handed his hat, you need to provide a statistic of your own, with supporting sources, for the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830/1840s. I’m still waiting.”

    What we DO KNOW is that the 70% statistic had directly referred to three southern cities where Jews owned slaves at that point in time, NOT the entire United States, as touted by Martin.

    And didn’t you just say that it is a “relatively trivial thing to challenge a particular statistic ( i.e., 70%), as there are a number of assumptions upon which this statistic is based that are easily assailable”?

    And didn’t I say that the proportion of slaveholders has never been an accurate measure of the social or economic importance of slaveholding, unless it is assessed on a broadly regional or state-by-state basis?

    Perhaps NO one actually knows the actual answer to the “proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830’s/1840’s”.

    But, to show you I’m a good sport, Junius Rodriguez (The Historical Encyclopedia of World Slavery, Volume 1, ABC-CLIO, 1997) referenced…

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…as successful as these Jewish Southerners were by Southern standards, they represent a very tiny percentage of the 20,000 Jews residing in the antebellum South who could, or would, ever aspire to own a slave. About 5,000 Jews owned one or more slaves – about 1.25 percent of all the slaveowners in the antebellum South…For those Jews who did own slaves, the records demonstrate that they were not significantly different from other masters in their treatments of their bondsmen.”

    Note that the antebellum period covers the period before the Civil War, 1820-1860.

    Regardless of factual accuracy, some would argue that these numbers are meaningless since they neglect to account for any other difference in demographics besides religion. For example, poorer families were less likely to own slaves than wealthier families.

    If we account for all other factors, it ends up there is no statistically significant difference between Jews and the overall population in terms of slave ownership, especially since levels of slave ownership varied in the southern states and in southern cities. For example, this source (forward.com/articles/205455/slaves-of-charleston/?p=all) notes that in 1830 the proportion of Jewish residents of Charleston who owned slaves was similar to that of the general white population (83% versus 87%).

  392. @geokat62

    “… you (Corvinus) need to provide a statistic of your own… for the proportion of Jewish households that owned slaves in the 1830/1840. I’m still waiting.’

    Dear geokat62,

    As always, I come to you in peace. Regrading you marathon debate with Corvinus, and as I a far from being an expert on slave ownership during mid-1800’s, I offer the two suggestions, below:

    1.) I trust there are others here @ Unz Review interested in the topic on the percentage of Jews (based in southern states) who owned slaves. Speaking respectfully, the argument is narrow to a point of my wanting to whack myself in the head!

    With G-d’s help and by comment # 400, I am hopeful you guys will ask the BIG question as to WHO PROFITED by organizing slave round ups and transporting them to the New World for assignment. No doubt, this highly organized EVIL slave trade operation might be compared to the profits garnered in today’s life destroying heroin trade! Does this pick your arm with a dirty needle?

    2.) What Corvinus and you debate is “small change” in comparison to the activities of Sephardic Jews & the West Indies Co. which was the primary outfit that transported slaves to the New World! (Sigh) While you guys argue endlessly about percentages of slaves owned by Jews in the American south (mid-19th century)…, I am gone NUMB that zero (0) consideration is given to the fact that slaves were also delivered to countries like Brazil & the Caribbean Islands and astronomical high profit margins prevailed for the shipping magnates. Who were the S. American slave owners, & besides being adherents to satanism, what creed?

    Finally, there is not one (1) even mid-level “Cheerleader for Israel” who would break trust and describe WHO manages & profits from mighty Afghanistan opium cultivation and multi-national distribution. But please note that there’s one guy (presently M.I.A. at The Unz Review comment exchange) who has the balls to say that which patriotic American parents of heroin addicts need to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

    Peace be upon Rehmat1 and refer to his web site below?

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/11/20/israel-benefits-from-afghan-opium-cultivation/

    Post scriptum: Geokat62, please try and subdue ill feelings for me? I know how you intellectually, & with a conscience, engage in serious discussions. However, I am smelling the exhaust of missing Zyklon B each time I see you and Corvinus wrestle with the abomination that happened during the mid-19th century when there is so much evil shit happening right now…, while millions of slaves-to-the-TV are sadly more interested in determining who killed JonBenet Ramsey. Thanks and good night!

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @Corvinus
  393. Miro23 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    I don’t have any secret knowledge about the US Election, but I’ve read Trumps books and followed what he’s been doing over the years.

    I would call him an opportunist. He’s good at evaluating different situations and when he thinks that he can put together a winning coalition he goes for it in a big way. He works hard (hands on), values personal loyalty and quickly eliminates people who don’t perform.

    In other words he’s a very effective player, as he proved again in the Republican selection process and the election itself.

    His “Power Structure” is just an alliance of all the people who supported him (I don’t see any shadowy forces in the background) :

    – The middle class who have little improvement in their standard of living
    – The unemployed hit by outsourcing.
    – The unskilled facing competition from large scale Latino immigration.
    – The military through having long term friendly contacts with him and being traditionalists.
    – The MIC through promises to increase military spending.
    – The South through being described as “Deplorables” by HRC.
    – The Neo-cons through his targeting Iran.
    – Israelis through his lack of interest in Palestinians and “Jerusalem as capital” statement.
    – Some women through his desire to reform education.
    – Some Blacks through his promise to tackle inner city unemployment.
    – Some Latinos through his traditional social views.
    – Many people through his emphasis on Law and Order and support of the police.
    – Small business owners looking forward to lower taxes.
    – People sick of the waste and expense of ME wars, wanting money spent on infrastructure.
    – People who didn’t like Clinton’s reckless plan to provoke Russia and risk WW3

    The only people who seem to be excluded are the SJW crowd, the MSM and outsourcing corporations/Wall St. (with all the associated Special Interest Plutocrats) although they seem to be coming round.

    Trump has gathered together a very disparate group of supporters and he can’t give them all that they want, so on past form, he’ll probably wait to see which way the wind blows and then decide which of them to emphasize/fade to best suits his purposes (Trump First).

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  394. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Post scriptum: Geokat62, please try and subdue ill feelings for me? I know how you intellectually, & with a conscience, engage in serious discussions. However, I am smelling the exhaust of missing Zyklon B each time I see you and Corvinus wrestle with the abomination that happened during the mid-19th century when there is so much evil shit happening right now…, while millions of slaves-to-the-TV are sadly more interested in determining who killed JonBenet Ramsey. Thanks and good night!

    In deference to your wishes, Chuck, Rover will let this bone go.

  395. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    No; 1st Combat Engineer Bat and 2nd Bat 1st Marines.

    You think too highly of the brand of “patriotism” you push on these pages imposter, otherwise also noted as the first refuge of scoundrels and Nazis.

  396. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    Rover will let this bone go

    Good for you geo, Sam is smiling.

    I did tell you that Nazis don’t have a sense of humor, didn’t I?

  397. mcohen says:
    @Anon

    Mcohen does not need to investigate….mcohen nose.the big hooked one can sniff the stench out from afar

    Yes I can get a sniff of something,sweat is running down the spine.pooling at the pucker.then on its way extra potent to the feet.yes yes I smell it now…stinkfoot

    There are not many nazi,s left.1945 has passed.so no this has nothing to do with nazi,s.
    So anon…..forget the NAZI bullshit diversion in bus driver from nut bush city limits crap.
    stinkfoot as zappa would point out is called homo drono.

    Fetch it my shadows and show them in the light.then apply the talcum.and now from the great man himself

    Frank zappa

  398. geokat62 says:

    I did tell you that Nazis don’t have a sense of humor, didn’t I?

    Three comments in a row using the N-word. Not sure how these comments get past the moderator.

    • Replies: @iffen
  399. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Speaking of the devil, we haven’t had any propaganda of the week picks from S2C.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    , @Anon
  400. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    We can use the N-word, we just can’t use the n-word.

    Such rules are vaguely familiar.

    Some might claim that one is a political choice and the other is not, but some would disagree.

    Some would say it depends on the power and who’s exalted and who’s vilified.

    Sounds vaguely familiar. Who? Whom?

    • Replies: @geokat62
  401. geokat62 says:
    @iffen

    Sounds vaguely familiar. Who? Whom?

    Kind’ a like lobby/Lobby?

    • Replies: @iffen
  402. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    He is in Scranton PA at the Dunkin Donuts giving his handle a rest save a few strokes; happily paired with an ‘assorted dozen-box’, coffee and a copy of Mein Kampf.

    • Replies: @iffen
  403. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    Kind’ a like lobby/Lobby?

    Not exactly, but deciding whether one should use lobby or Lobby would be a step in the process of deciding who/whom.

  404. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    He is in Scranton PA at the Dunkin Donuts giving his handle a rest

    I am leery of you slipping another one over my head.

    Anyway, he can’t be the same person unless he has some sort of emotional instability. (But that might be part of the definition of most of these 88s.)

    I go by the interaction in the comments to my comments and S2C and woodchuck are completely different. The only commonality that I see is the continuous pushing of prepackaged 88 propaganda.

    I am not sure people can change some things.

    For example, no matter how many times that I try, I can’t provoke RobinG.

    If RobinG. started interacting in the comment section with me it would have to be a different RobinG.

    But that does not mean that there is not a sockpuppet RobinG and I am not clever enough to detect it.

  405. JOK says:

    Trump is starting to look like a major disappointment with respect to Russia and Israel. He seems to be in the tank for Israel and the war party. A continuation of what was before. Today there are reports we just rescued a couple of ISIS commanders. Trump was supposed to annihilate them, not rescue them. A further indication he’s gone over. Not good.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  406. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    For the longest time, I had my doubts that Russia was behind all this, but I am beginning to change my mind.

    I asked Sam if he could point to any new incriminating evidence that demonstrates Russian culpability. Well, rather than waiting for Sam to do so, I came across a very revealing article by Robert Parry of consortiumnews.com that sheds new light on this issue.

    The title of the article says it all: ‘Fresh Doubts about Russian ‘Hacking

    Here are some of the more pertinent excerpts:

    WikiLeaks’ disclosure of documents revealing CIA cyber-spying capabilities underscores why much more skepticism should have been applied to the U.S. intelligence community’s allegations about Russia “hacking” last year’s American presidential election. It turns out that the CIA maintains a library of foreign malware that could be used to pin the blame for a “hack” on another intelligence service…

    Or put differently — based on the newly available CIA material — the possibility that these telltale signs were planted to incriminate Moscow doesn’t sound as farfetched as it might have earlier…

    In other words, CrowdStrike cited the sophistication of the tradecraft as proof of a state-sponsored cyber-attack, yet it was the sloppiness of the tradecraft that supposedly revealed the Russian links, i.e. the old malware connections, the Cyrillic letters and the Dzerzhinsky reference…

    “It’s very hard to buy the argument that the Democrats were hacked by one of the most sophisticated, diabolical foreign intelligence services in history, and that we know this because they screwed up over and over again.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/08/fresh-doubts-about-russian-hacking/

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  407. @geokat62

    “In deference to your wishes, Chuck Rover will let this bone go.”

    Dear geokat62,

    It’s of course your prerogative to “let this bone” goand I do endorse doing so. But since SolontoCroesus is M.I.A. from Unz Review comment exchanges which consistently provides accurate history insights, I sincerely conclude that Zionist Sacked North America Needs You!

    For what it’s worth and during his Purim celebration, The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg is spreading word that I am “happily paired with an assorted (Dunkin’ Donuts) dozen-box, coffee and a copy of Mein Kampf.”

    Regular reading of the Deputy-Nazi- Hunting Dawg’s sophomoric & deceitful Unz Review comments (alias, Sam “The Sham” Shama ) is the best argument I can offer for average and patriotic Americans to enable the withdrawal of their analytical brain functions from the inner chambers of Tel Aviv assholes.

    As I mentioned before on this thread, serious commenters now have a timely opportunity to blow the balls off swinish activities perpetually conducted by (well rewarded) “Lowerarchy” cheerleaders for Israel. (Note: in “The Screwtwape Letters,” C.S. Lewis mockingly invented the Demonic Majesty High Command as being the “Lowerachy” rather than the Hierarchy, and the nickname stuck in my head)

    At any rate, as The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg taunted me for dissemination of the classic work, “Mein Kampf” (comment # 406), he is incredibly foolish in not being able to realize that I have upgraded my knowledge base of current American “struggles” in order to learn historical-political Truth, and have perused Christopher Bollyn’s taboo book, “Solving 9-11.”

    geokat62 — Without conscience, Sam the Sham will lay a bad rap on just about anyone who rocks the Zionist Love Boat Party in Washington, D.C. What’s more, especially given the feast day of Purim, I am truly honored by his tenacious efforts to do so with me! (F.Y.I., I love confronting intellectual tyrants!)

    If I may take up more “comment” space, please note that yesterday, the jovial (Scranton,PA-based) Rabbi Daniel Swartz, summed up the Purim observance, holiday story. In The Sunday Times, the Rabbi explained that the holiday concerns “a Ruler who has both supporters and detractors, who is known for harassing women, who has a secretive adviser who tells him to persecute one (1) religion and eliminate them from the country.”

    I am for one very pleased how Rabbi Swartz conveyed some very interesting Purim history. (A reverent “pause” now to give credit to The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg who would, of course for public distraction purposes, explain the Purim holiday to the unwashed American masses who pine for the coming of the N.C.A.A. college basketball tournament “bracket” revelations)

    But right now, geokat62, there is something huge [email protected] (Gehenna-based) Ground Zero , and I will cal;l it “The Greatest 21st Century Story Never Told.” As Sam Shama recently boasted about his “first cousins” military service in the abominable U.S.-Zionist Afghanistan war, please read the article below, written by Gordon Duff, a U.S. Marine combat vet of the Vietnam War, now disabled.

    As a preview to Mr. Duff’s daring article, “linked” below, I will scale down his words which I really PRAY will, & like they say in street-smart sections of N.Y.C., “grow legs” and become a gamechanger beginning for mass American rejection of the basis for the U.S.-Zionist War of (!) Terror!

    G. Duff: “(The one who ate from the fruit of married-Pamela Anderson) ) Julian Assange insists investigation into 9-11 & Israel are a “waste of time.” We (at Veterans Today) suggest Assange actually reads Wikileaks.”

    G, Duff’s introduction to Wayne Madsen’s article: “Can someone send this to Trump? We need to add one more country to the U.S. immigration ban.”

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/10/blockbuster-wikileaks-suppressed-mossad-ran-911-arab-hijacker-terrorist-operation/

    To conclude with a paraphrase of the words of late-New York Yankee catcher, Yogi Berra, “The game ain’t over ’til it’s over.” With some divine help, Gordon Duff’s article might place America’s Zio-battered “defense” into extra innings. (sigh) It’s not the U.S. military that needs billions of dollars more to “rebuild,” we really need a few brave, moral, and influential “souls” who will expend their intellectual capital to make Americans Aware Again!

    Thank you for listening geokat62! As you may understand, the passionate words above reflect MY Struggle.

    post scriptum to Sam Shama: Beware, The Ghost of Charles Lindbergh is stirring across the U.S.A. Boo!

  408. RobinG says:
    @JOK

    “Today there are reports we just rescued a couple of ISIS commanders.”

    Source, please?

  409. HdC says:
    @utu

    OK you win.

    I’ll correct my original statement of “never” and limit it to the last 1000 years or so.

    Thusly, during the slave trading mania years the Germanic nations of the Holy Roman Empire decried slavery and did not participate in same.

    As to “some of them were …” I submit that the majority of the inhabitants of Germantown were from Germany and some from Holland; consequently the anti-slavery petition was of German immigrant origin and backing. A perusal of newspapers of that time, available via google, would disclose this.

    Just in passing: Ad hominem attacks are the final refuge of the out-argued scoundrel.” HdC

    • Replies: @utu
  410. KA says:

    A detailed memo on the White House strategy for the 1972 election coauthored by Pat Buchanan,
    suggested that the defense secretary Melvin laird should speak out on what effect cut in the navy

    ‘s budget proposed by George McGovern would have on Israel, ‘ with the conclusion,not
    unjustified ,that the future of Israel,the survival of Israel l- with McGovern’s naval cuts – would
    be the decision of the soviet politburo ,again,the lead should be that…. without building the F-14
    and F-15 to combat the Mig 23, “us navy should not intervene to save Israel ‘

    – page 188 DANGEROUS LIAISON The Inside Story of the US-Israeli Covert Relationship.

    Today’s lies will come to bite tomorrow . “Amen Corner” did not get its start in 1990 . Even those “noble Lies” used to buttress essential American capabilities under the guise of helping Israel!

    It is good playbook for anybody to gather more power clout and build base even if they didi not mean a word underlying their reasons

  411. @geokat62

    “Well waiting for Sam to do so ‘pointing to new incriminating evidence…”

    Geaoakt,

    As you know, I respect who you are and your dedication to the lively, & to date uncensored, Unz Review comment exchanges.

    As you know, Sam The Sham has proved himself to be a phony who relishes in having the morally sick “talent” to upgrade typical and expected Hasbara bullshit. Shama has no shame.

    As you know, & like I (Chuck Orloski) have emphasized in the recent past, and unless either lying Dershowitz or Kristol show up here @ Unz Review comment exchanges, Sam “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama is the best phony that we could get here.

    Unless you want to get “jerked off” and distracted, please consider aiming your keen intelligence, wit, & valid insights at commenters whose intent is not to confuse?

    Thanks & selah! Ha — my use of the latter (rather phantom) word irks Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs!

  412. Svigor says:

    Historian Ralph A. Austen heavily criticized the book and said that although the book may seem fairly accurate, it is an anti-Semitic book. However, he added that before the publication of The Secret Relationship, some scholars were reluctant to discuss Jewish involvement in slavery because of fear of damaging the “shared liberal agenda” of Jews and African Americans. In that sense, Austen found the book’s aims of challenging the myth of universal Jewish benevolence throughout history to be legitimate even though the means to that end resulted in an anti-Semitic book.

    Well said (the truth is “anti-Semitic”). Though Jewish colonialism in Palestine is evidence enough that the myth is but a myth.

    “A few Jews even became prominent slave owning planters in the Old South…

    Yes, they mostly stuck to trading in slaves. Much quicker turnaround, and none of that pesky building things nonsense.

    And they mostly stuck to Iberian colonies. They were thick with Jewish slave merchants. Interestingly enough, these places were much deadlier destinations for slaves…

  413. Che Guava says:
    @Philip Giraldi

    Hello Mr. Giraldi.

    Always appreciate your writing.

    This thread is a stirred-up nest of lame Israeli and pro-Israel insects (pseudo-wasps), as I am sure you are aware, it is only as active as it is because you made a few telling points re. Israel and their U.S. colonial policy. Many commentors on this thread, playing regulars, never saw their u-names before, jamming it, making sure there can be no logic in the thread.

    It is interesting to compare numbers.

    I first read one of your articles on Antiwar.com (think I had read one or two others before).

    Your comments here, re. Antiwar.com, are amusing.

    I always wonder what happened to Mr. Raimondo’s post-9/11 book, he suddenly stopped mentioning it well over twelve years ago, but I had read of many of the things he used in that in other mainstream outlets, including print at the time (the art students, the cheer squad filming, the later Carl Cox documentary, much more).

    Down the memory hole, indeed.

    Here in Tokyo, the homeless have largely vanished. They are all working on the Fukushima ‘clean-up’. Nobody wants to notice that is the reason.

    What a wunnerful world!

  414. @Miro23

    “I read Trump’s books and followed his fortunes… I would call him an opportunist… and he’ll probably wait to see which way the wind blows.”

    Dear Miro23,

    I regret having taken so long to make response to your commendable political thought, comment # 397.

    These days, & for better or worse, the high art of political poetry ( in the U.S.) has turned into what’s called “identity,” agenda driven poetry. i.e.; Affordable mouth wash for pet dogs! Such poets typically get opportunities to read their works at White House elite Democrat or G.O.P. bonfire-assemblies & that result in resounding cheers.

    Such watered-down poetry is a U.S. political reality, and singer-songwriters sometimes fill the void, for one example, when Steve Earle released his unconventional L.P. titled, “Jerusalem.” To my dismay, after he released the great song, “The Revolution Starts Now,” the rather obscure & rebellious Mr. Earle came to terms with GMC truck and his radical song became soundtrack for Chevy truck TV commercials.

    In good conscience, how can I, as a Scranton School bus driver, complain about Steve Earle’s having reached for “bigger fruit” that hangs low on the American “Bread and Circus” vine? I won’t do that, miro23.

    However, and by chance, did you ever hear the Simon & Garfunkel song “The Boxer” including the proverb-style lyric, “A man hears what he wants to here and disregards the rest.” Isn’t that generally HOW things really go with probably > 90 percent of mankind?

    Although I read & learned from all the valuable points you have listed in # 397, there is a problem. American citizens, that is of course those who pay close attention and are capable of filtering out highly toxic “News”, will naturally come to a conclusion that there is a powerful & united global force that requires (Shee)people to “see what they want you to see, pay tribute, and obediently disregard what makes COMMON SENSE to them.” (R.I.P., Thomas Paine)

    Finally, miro23, and speaking with respect for your thought, I conclude that planet Earth’s oligarchs and multi-billionaires (the 1%) are quite united in support of Zionist Israel’s political Cause and territorial expansion goal. You may (rightly) ask, “OK, Herr Orloski, but where is your itemized list (evidence) which I have honestly provided for you?”

    The best I can (rather lamely) answer is, “Watch more so what President Trump does for Wall Street & Tel Aviv rather than the “good” which he plans to do for broken cities like Scranton, PA

    Be on guard for stupor-inducing (365 / 24-7) cognitive dissonance… and thank you very much for tuning in, miro23! Look to read more of your thought here.

    • Agree: Z-man
  415. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  416. @Anonymous

    Dear Anonymous,

    Corresponding beautifully with this article’s picture, your “link” is a real pisser. Tremendous find! And thanks for posting it.

    A suggestion. It will be nice if Unz Review commenters would input thought on what they think the (depicted) witch is saying, while pointing it’s sickly green finger at our bewildered faces?

    Oh well… I’ll start with a paraphrase of the popular U.S. military slogan, from 1940s-1950s era.

    “Uncle Sam Shama needs you to support Israel’s wars!”

  417. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Keith says:

    ” We haven’t had any propaganda of the week picks from S2C.”

    That statement coming from Hasbara central is like the pot calling the kennel black.

    How much does the Lobby pay you to challenge the “American First” Dunkin Donut radicals here in the UNZ?

    I know… you consider me a NAZI because I am an American Nationalists.

    “Remember, it is a trick”, the Jews always call American First Nationalists, NAZIs.

    The American First position is not racist. American Nationalists don’t care if Jews get circumcised, separate food on their dinner plate, how they slaughter their cattle, or pray to King Netanyahu.

    We just have different national interests than the Jewish dual loyalists.

    We are loyal to America and America only. The American Zionists are Israel firsters.

    ITS JUST POLITICS – it has nothing to do with NAZISM.

    To learn more about the the political divide, go to the Institute for Historical Review and read about the Spanish Inquisition.

    Bibi Netanyahu’s father was a historian and wrote about the politics that was behind the Spanish inquisition. History is repeating itself.

    American Nationalists don’t have an insurance policy like the American Jews.
    If America falls apart, we do not have a country we can run to, like the American Jews.

    America is all we got, this is why nationalism is on the rise.

    • Replies: @iffen
    , @Chuck Orloski
  418. utu says:
    @HdC

    Peace! Actually I am on your side. Understand your sentiments but sentiments must be subservients to facts.

  419. Corvinus says:
    @geokat62

    “In deference to your wishes, Chuck, Rover will let this bone go.”

    Especially when you got taken to the intellectual woodshed. Run, run away.

    • Replies: @geokat62
  420. Corvinus says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    “With G-d’s help and by comment # 400, I am hopeful you guys will ask the BIG question as to WHO PROFITED by organizing slave round ups and transporting them to the New World for assignment.”

    Easy answer. Europeans. Some were Jews and others were non-Jews.

    “I am gone NUMB that zero (0) consideration is given to the fact that slaves were also delivered to countries like Brazil & the Caribbean Islands and astronomical high profit margins prevailed for the shipping magnates. Who were the S. American slave owners, & besides being adherents to satanism, what creed?”

    Another easy answer. Europeans. Some were Jews and others were non-Jews.

  421. iffen says:
    @Anon

    If America falls apart, we do not have a country we can run to, like the American Jews.

    Yeah, that does seem to be quite the advantage, having a back-up country, but they have put a lot of effort into making it a success. Credit where credit is due.

    Just look at Lebanon. The great powers set up Lebanon around the same time and they couldn’t even keep it on the road, much less add to it.

    • Replies: @Anon
  422. @Anon

    “if America falls apart, we do not have a country we can run to, like the American Jews.

    Dear Anonymous,

    I disagree.

    # 1, America has fallen apart due to the prolonged deviate work of Zionists who have taken control over the three branches of the U.S. government. Hollywood, TV, and the Corporate Media has put the wrecking ball to higher Christian principles which at one time helped form my world view.

    # 2, I will be frank. Life is short and the only Country one can really run to is that which was not made by mortal human hands. That’s what persecuted Jesus Christ meant when he gave a “heads up” to his followers, and spoke (rather mystically) about “His Kingdom and not being of this world.”

    #3, With all my heart, I respect what you say, “We are loyal to America and America only…. IT’S JUST (extremely distorted) POLITICS — it has nothing to do with NAZISM.”

    To iffen, Sam “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama, and any other people who get high by calling me a Nazi, I say this: I live at 601 Union Street, 2nd floor Apartment, Taylor, PA 18517. The best time to confront me is after my school bus run which ends daily @ 8:30 a.m. I will be available to make encounter with the two of you, and as you please, perhaps a “Nazi-hunting” goon squad… like the one author Christopher Bollyn reportedly encountered when he started research on his book, “Solving 9-11.” If you’re serious, I will issue my cell phone number to hasten an appointment!

    Thanks, Anonymous… I trust you have the wisdom to realize that it’s not my intent to insult your intelligence and goodwill. Decades ago, I read Herman Melville’s “Billy Budd” and I learned a lot about how to handle petty tyrants with above average IQ’s. Consequently, I am not about to take any shit from iffen and Sam Shama, and I really do not care if Zionist affiliated agents of our sold-out government are monitoring this comment exchange.

    Saint Paul to The Romans, 229; pax in terra and good night. I

    • Replies: @geokat62
    , @iffen
  423. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus

    Especially when you got taken to the intellectual woodshed. Run, run away.

    Ah, the crow has finally landed. I’ve been waiting for you.

    Look, I promised Chuck that I wouldn’t clog up Phil’s comment section with any more OT comments. But should you wish to continue this conversation, I suggest you waddle over to another thread [No Campus (Or Country) for White Men], where the topic of Prof. Martin and black slavery is more apropos.

    I look forward to your response to comment #19.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  424. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    I live at 601 Union Street, 2nd floor Apartment, Taylor, PA 18517.

    Hey, Chuck. If I’m ever near your neck of the woods, I’ll be sure to pay you a visit.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  425. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Keith says:

    “Credit where credit is due”?

    Are serious or a practical joker?

    Why give credit to the welfare state of Israel. They receive 3.8 billion dollars from the American taxpayers a year and our country has a 21 trillion dollar debt. Our infrastructure is delapated and millions of Americans don’t have adequate health care. Israelis are building subsidized homes on ethnic cleansed land and millions of Americans have foreclosed on their homes. America has spent several trillion dollars fighting wars for Israel and we lost thosands of Americans in wars in the Middle East. We now face terrorism because of our support for Israel and Cheerleading for Israel in the UN. Lastly, we have Dual loyalist Israelis buying our politicians, including the US presidency.

    Without American financial, political and economic slavish support,
    Israel would be a cat litter box country, trying to survive just like Lebanon.

    Why wait for the America ship to sink and abandon it like rats. Leave now and see if you can, on your own, with the other dual loyalists, and personally make an effort to insure Israel’s success.

    Maybe you will be even given a opportunity to fight and die for your back-up country.

    In the mean time, I will do what I can to “Make American Great” and safe and prosperous for my family.

    Thank you for making my case for the need for American nationalism.

    If you make Aliya now, you will be able to gear up in time for war with Iran.

    Israel always gets their wars.

    • Replies: @iffen
  426. iffen says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    To iffen, Sam “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama, and any other people who get high by calling me a Nazi

    Deep breathe, Chuck, get those panties out of a wad.

    Stop parroting Nazi propaganda and nobody will know.

    • Replies: @Anon
  427. iffen says:
    @Anon

    They receive 3.8 billion dollars from the American taxpayers a year and our country has a 21 trillion dollar debt

    Can’t do big numbers after 4 glasses of wine.

    3.8 billion = chicken feed as part of 21 trillion dollar debt
    3.8 billion = chicken feed as part of Israeli budget

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
  428. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Keith says:

    “Stop parroting NAZI propaganda and nobody will know”

    Iffen… stop using the “N” word. The defensive trick doesn’t work any longer on American Nationalists.

    http://www.wethepeoplereport.com/israel/israeli-minister-called-accusation-anti-semitism-trick-silence-criticism-israel-video/

    You are starting to sound like an enforcer for the ADL.

    The only people who see a NAZI under every rock, are the Hasbara trolls, useful idiots in Hollywood, who know who butters their bread, and the Christian Zionists.

    Stop parroting the ADL propaganda and nobody will know. Are you trying to raise donations
    for the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center?

    http://www.wethepeoplereport.com/israel/israeli-minister-called-accusation-anti-semitism-trick-silence-criticism-israel-video/

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  429. @geokat62

    Dear geokat62,

    If a you’re ever nearby the N.E. Pennsylvania area, I’d be very happy to welcome you to stay at our Taylor home and, given time, I’d show you around town. Thank you!

    post scriptum: I’d make the same offer to iffen-iffen, but I fear he might go to the Taylor Hill laundromat, steal panties out of working girl’s dirt laundry baskets, and start to chew on soiled panties.

  430. @Anon

    Dear Anon (Keith),

    (Iffen)-iffen has limited brain power and the excellent articles you have “linked” are way beyond his comprehension cap.

    In all likelihood, he must now wait for Sam “The Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama’s special forces “Hasbara” reinforcement to arrive.

    One more thing, did you read (iffen)-iffen’s remarkably stupid comment on Lebanon’s inability to grow and prosper like leach Israel did? Ha-ha! Even Sam The Sham must have cringed at such a stupid comment.

    “Hi-ho,hi ho,” it’s off to an honorable form of work I go…, thank you!

  431. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @iffen

    Keith says:

    “3.8 billion = Chicken Feed as part of of a 21 trillion dollar debt.”

    Tell that to the schools kids in Detroit who
    have been drinking lead contaminated water. We could use the chicken feed to rebuild our inner cities.

    3.8 billion= Chicken feed as part of Israel’s budget.

    You must be drinking potent German beer.

    Again, you are making my case against aid to Israel. If Israel is so successful financially, why does Israel, every ten years come begging?

    Just the other day, I saw a commercial on Fox News, where a Rabbi is asking for more money from Americans to buy care packages to feed Holocaust survivors.

    Is the 3.8 billion going to Bibi to buy ice cream”?

    If Israel doesn’t need the foreign aid, then why demand it. Is Israel just trying to piss off the American Nationalists and put on display their power over our corrupt politicians? The treasonous US politicians, who can’t stop Cheerleading for a foreign country?

    Iffen… you are starting to make the Hasbara trolls look bad. I strongly suggest you just sip the beer and be silent.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
  432. @geokat62

    geokat62 speaking to Corvinus”:
    “Look I promised Chuck to not clog up Phil’s comment section with more OT comments.”

    The world of Jewish deception is too much with Corvinus, and I avoided making a reply to his attempt to take me hostage inside his “Romper Room”-level game where he cleverly fixes the outcome to his argument’s advantage.

    What’s more, geokat62, I truly believe that Corvinus could not face the facts of his own existence.

    I hate to draw either you, or anyone else away, from Anonymous (Keith’s) very intelligent, witty, and important comments, (#’s 429 & 439), but I just want to ask you to pause a moment in order to remember the life of the Dead Man noted in the Haaretz article, “linked” below .
    .
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/this-day-in-jewish-history/1864-global-trade-tycoon-david-sassoon-dies-1.475878

    P.S.: Iffen-iffen Calling Sam “The Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama! ; Help! Nazi commenters are circling around my bubble bath (which I feel is a flagrant violation of Bathsheba’s law). Help me, Sam? I need your intervention quick before I sink any lower!

  433. @iffen

    If it’s such a trivial sum, why do Israel and its American fifth column fight tooth-and-nail to keep the subsidies flowing?

  434. iffen says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    If it’s such a trivial sum, why do Israel and its American fifth column fight tooth-and-nail to keep the subsidies flowing?

    Maintaining and strengthening the bond.

    It’s the thought that counts.

  435. @Beefcake the Mighty

    “Why do Israel & its American fifth column fight tooth-in-nail to keep subsidies flowing?”

    Excellent question, Beefcake the Mighty!

    Below, I will offer a guess:

    In his classic book, “Confessions,” St. Augustine writes about a strong (inner) impulse to steal rhubarb out of a garden, even though he did not like to eat it.

    I believe that wealthy Israel (legally) steals American money simply because they can not defeat the temptation to avoid not doing so.

    Even Sam “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” has expressed that he wished Israel would stop taking American “subsidies” which the Federal Reserve manages to simply put on the Un-American Express Gold Credit Card!

    Thanks again for your insightful comment!

  436. Sam Shama says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty

    Large nations throughout history have given “aid”, which to this day remains a catch-all euphemism for influence capture, soft to direct regional dominance and genuine developmental assistance. Today, almost all of it gets packaged under Developmental Credit.

    I’d say as a percentage of GDP, the United States is getting a very decent deal spending all of 0.17% of GDP on ODA. Compare that to the European nations, Japan etc. and you’ll get the picture. So, the dollars and cents “saved” if the U.S totally withdrew from ODA would be about $101.25 per capita per annum and if done selectively to Israel about $11.91. I don’t think even your stupidest Congressperson will fail to see the cost-benefit equation.

    I’ve also made it clear that as a matter of economic impact, the loans sent to Israel are not very significant, but issued mostly on account of two things: (a) ongoing defence initiatives and (2) pure signalling.

    Here is the list of ODA’s by country:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_development_aid_country_donors

    As China makes her way to the economic summit, it interesting to note that while she provides a much smaller ODA, her overall broader economic assistance through direct investment is remarkable!

    http://blogs.cfr.org/development-channel/2013/03/26/emerging-voices-callan-blak-and-thomas-on-chinas-foreign-aid-and-investment-2/

    So, while it pleases many on this site to decry all foreign aid – a common refrain during periods of lower labour-force participation – it is an imperative never to be stopped simply so a group of characters will stop croaking on the internet.

    • Replies: @iffen
  437. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    I’ve also made it clear that as a matter of economic impact, the loans sent to Israel are not very significant

    I made my comment out of thin air.

    I am correct that by any economic measure, 3.8 billion is insignificant to the US.

    However, it seems that I am incorrect when considering the Israeli defense budget. According to Business Insider, the 3.8 billion works out to be about 21% of the defense budget and therefore does not qualify as chicken feed.

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  438. ” — it is an imperative never to be stopped simply so a group of characters will stop croaking on the internet.”

    Dear Sam The Sham:

    How convenient that you dodged “Anonymous” (Keith) on this shameful “aid” matter and dropped deception bombs upon another Unz Review comment participant! Doing so is your M.O. and many here have caught on.

    Since I am here as Sam the Sham puts it, ” on the internet” and prior to going to work, (below) I will ask Anonymous (Keith) a question about a burning war issue now going on.

    (Please zip it, Sam “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg” Shama, because my question is strictly for a person who has intellectual integrity and a conscience )

    Remember the W. Bush Neoconservatives most advertised war in human history? It was dubbed “Operation Iraq Freedom.” Presently, as North Korea has nuclear weapons & ICBM systems that allegedly can strike Japan and America, please look at the “Businessinsider” article, below, which (for me) advertises what Kim’s regime should be soon expecting from the Trump administration:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-seals-f-35s-decapitation-strike-north-korea-2017-3

    Incredibly insane to recall how candidate Trump insisted that it’s “not good” to tip off the Enemy about U.S. war plans? But now, and knowing how all the world is trained to consider Kim a madman (nut), what do you think he might be thinking (& might do) as word is put out that Navy Seals are ready to trounce Pyongyang like Baghdad 2003?

    The U.S./Zionists are now apparently fucking with North Korea who is said to possess a nuclear weapon arsenal. Anonymous (keith”: Although Goldman Sachs Group is salivating to do un-tethered business in Jiaoping’s China, do you see anything morally wrong with “Business Insider” having given an internet “heads up” to the rogue sate, N. Korea, while millions of people could get killed?

    If this situation is just waved off as old fashioned “gunboat diplomacy,” we better do as Mao Zedong once recommended to his people during the Sino-Soviet split, which was “Dig deep holes.”

    At least Iffen-iffen will be preoccupied with Sam Shama’s article “links” for a spell?

    Thank you very much!

    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  439. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    Strategic Trade Authorization Exception, section 740.20(c)(1) of title 15, Code of Federal Regulations, basically is the applicable law under which Israel among a group of nations, can export and re-export defense armaments.

    Also look at Title 22, U.S. Code § 8603 – United States actions to assist in the defense of Israel and protect United States interests. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/8603

    • Replies: @iffen
  440. Sam Shama says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    You are right of course, this has a nuclear war potential second only to the other strike force which has been on the make for decades, and only now in deployment phase. They are so effective that need for secrecy – something in common with the decapitation forces you mention – is entirely unnecessary.

    I speak of this exceedingly lethal force : http://m.imdb.com/title/tt3949660/

    To borrow your inimitable words : I am deeply grateful to you for paying your precious attention to such

  441. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Are you are making the case that we should in the main consider Israel as a conduit?

    Should we subtract from the 3.8 amount that which is used for “US interests” and “US interests and Israeli interests,” leaving a much smaller pure “Israeli interests” sum?

    • Agree: Sam Shama
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
  442. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen

    I have not pursued this matter in depth though I’ve always wanted to. There is a competition for the spot of major broker for the U.S. arms industry. It benefits only a very select group in Israel.

    Israel has a significant industry itself, but also retrofits U.S. equipment

    • Replies: @iffen
  443. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama

    Another commenter had the temerity to tell me that there was no historical value in Charlie Wilson’s War. 🙂

    Now that I give it more thought it seems that it would be a safer and more effective way of handling transfers. Outfitting an army and hoping that when that army threw down its weapons and fled the scene, the “correct” groups would end up with the weapons seems like a high risk plan.

  444. @Beefcake the Mighty

    I note that the leading Hasbaras here have not bothered to answer this question.

  445. @Anon

    Dear Anonymous,

    You might be either at work or sleeping, but I have asked you a question (see comment # 442) where I linked a “Business Insider” report on how the Trump administration is gearing up a Navy Seal team to liberate North Korean Kim from his leadership job.

    While driving school bus and listening to elementary students scream and a pretty good song by Beyonce, I began to consider how in the hell did the “Business Insider” get word on the president’s ‘plan to out Kim. Humph — talk about all the “leaks” jumping out of the White House woodwork sine New Years, I naturally began to wonder how “Business Insider” got their rather high-level information.

    Upon reaching my iffen-flat, I searched the internet in order to determine the ownership of “Business Insider.” My search was a success, and I learned that in September 2015, “Business Insider” was acquired by the German publishing “powerhouse,” Axel Springer for only $450 million The Axel Springer C.E.O. is Mathias Dopfner; spelled with an umlaut “o.”

    Having looked further into “Axel Springer,” I found the pressreader article (below) in which you might be interested. (Note: Had iffen-iffen an independent brain from that of Sam the Sham, I would advise him to search “pressreader”)

    https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-jewish-chronicle/20170120/282016147031416

    post scriptum: I regret an attempt to overfill your “cup,” but in today’s Wall Street Journal “Letters to the Editor,” there is one that stands out and will be certain to please “The Deputy Nazi-Hunting Dawg.”

    The WSJ letter was written by Harry M. Fleisch, titled “Beware the Dismissal of Germany’s Nazi Past.” Mr. Fleissh’s letter is quite long but since I’m doing little more than this, I will type it in full, below. (NOTE: First off, draw your gas mask from out of your family’s home “survival kit” and be ready to don it)

    To the Editor:

    “(Fraulein) Frauke Petry of the AdF party asserts that American forces after WW II allowed German P.O.W’s to die of hunger in in the camps on the Rhine meadows. I was a first lieutenant in those forces with responsibility for coordination & treatment of Germans exactly in the Rhine meadows.”

    “In chaotic circumstances, masses of Germans were thrust under our authority starting in February 1945, before war ended in May of that year.”

    “I can personally assure Ms. Petry that we American soldiers made enormous efforts to feed and shelter displaced Germans in a humane manner. Some Germans did die in an outbreak of typhoid. All of this stands in utter contrast to THE GERMAN MURDEROUS GASSING OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. (it’s my ‘capital’ letter emphasis) Any comparison is beyond moral relativism, it is simply not true.”

    “Revived German pride, buttressed with revisionist false history is dangerous. It is precisely what alarms those few of us still alive who were there. And it should concern Germans and German watchers the world over.” — by Harry M. Fleisch, Rye, N.Y., March 13, 2017

    Oh well, Anonymous, I must go gas some Franco American canned spaghetti and eat. Good night!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  446. Pal says:

    All Zionists who constantly try to disarm anybody who wisely disagrees with our foreign policy toward Israel, are labeled anti-Semitic.. This is to intimidate us into silence.. The beauty part about this is they themselves are the one who are anti-everybody.. What hypocrite’s.. Because Wash.D.C. is as Pat Buchanan put it, ”Israeli Occupied Territory,” we find ourselves in this pickle we’re in. We are the mother and the father of ISIS thanks to our Pres. G. Bush’s decision to take out Israel’s enemy, Saddem.. No Iraq invasion, no ISIS, not to mention his washing his hands in the Pal-Israeli peace process, where he got the ball on the one yard line. Maybe, just maybe had he taken the ball in, instead of leaving ”Mickey Mouse” to fight it out with ”Godzilla”, Sept. 11th would have been aborted. I see no hope off things ch

  447. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chuck Orloski

    Harry M Fleisch
    Age: 97

    Rye, NY, formerly Mamaroneck, NY

    LBI News | LEO BAECK INSTITUTE – NEW YORK BERLIN

    “In 1955, a group of émigré intellectuals gathered to found an institute to preserve their shared German-Jewish history. Notable scholars including Ernst Simon, Robert Weltsch, Martin Buber, and Gershom Scholem met in Jerusalem and appointed Rabbi Leo Baeck the Institute’s first president and established independent centers in New York, London, and Jerusalem.
    Sixty years later, the Leo Baeck Institute continues to carry out the founders’ mission to preserve and promote the history and culture of German-speaking Jewry.”

    Spring 2015
    LEO BAECK INSTITUTE 2015 BERLIN DINNER CONTRIBUTIONS
    Harry M. Fleisch, Mamaroneck, NY

    https://www.lbi.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LBI_Spring15News.pdf

    Harry M Fleisch is most likely Jewish, most likely German Jewish, based on his contribution to the Berlin Dinner of the Leo Baeck Institute.

    He was about 25 yrs old when he was, as he claims, a first lieutenant supervising German POWs (which Eisenhower re-classified, “Disarmed Enemy Combatants”) in the Rhineland.

    Many, many Jews created and enforced policies and carried out control of Germans, both civilian and military, during the years of the war and for as much as a decade after the war.

    Many of those policies are characterized by utter brutality; Cora Sol Goldstein describes how (predominantly Jewish agents) carried out psychological warfare against the German people for at least five years after the war ended.

    “The Ritchie Boys” were young German Jewish immigrants to USA who volunteered for service in US military and were trained in espionage, propaganda, and de-moralization techniques that they carried out in Germany and among German forces during the war. Ritchie Boys played a major role in acquiring German records and documents; post-war, Ritchie Boys played a prominent role in the prosecutions in the Nuremberg trials.

    The Morgenthau Plan is probably known to many readers of this forum. In a 2011 panel discussion titled “Myths, Misconceptions and Surprises of World War II,”

    Gerhard Weinberg (dec) averred that “the Morgenthau plan was very soft on Germans,” and that “the millions of Germans who were removed from their homes would have preferred the tender mercies of the Morgenthau plan.”
    University of Virginia historian William Hitchcock demurred, citing his research into the attitudes of French, German and other Europeans toward the “liberating” US forces: Hitchcock’s research reveals that the Allies caused far more death and destruction among civilians in France other states under Axis occupation, than did German occupiers.

    Further, Hitchcock observed that although Allied Occupying forces were sternly instructed, as a matter of policy, to treat all Germans as dangerous enemies who deserved to be further punished, as indicated in this US military training film, “Our Job in Germany,” which implicated the entirety of German history and the German population as a “threat to civilization.”

    Many GIs were appalled at the policy as well as at the devastation and suffering of the German people; they felt the Germans had “suffered enough,” and many disregarded the orders to continue to treat Germans harshly. It’s hard to credit Fleisch with such humane tendencies, given the otherwise hateful comments contained in his letter to WSJ.

    Freda Utley describes the maltreatment of Germans in The High Cost of Vengeance

    The difference between the crimes against humanity — the firebombing of 130 German cities and destruction of 75% of German civilian infrastructure — and the maltreatment of defeated Germany by US occupiers, and what Fleish alleges as the “murderous gassing of millions of people” is that the former realities have not been propagandized in film, television, books and dogmatized education programs, while the latter, fantasized psychodramas have been enforced upon people all over the world.

    Harry Fleish is a very old man. It seems he has not used the many years granted to him to dispel the deep, triumphalist hate that oozes from every frame of the US military “War Department Orientation Film” but instead has nurtured hate like an obsession.

    He should be ashamed of himself.

    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    , @Art
  448. @anonymous

    WOW, anonymous! What amazing research and writing.

    If Harry happens to read your comment, he’ll do what Harry Chapin did (in song) & get the next taxi out of town.

  449. Art says:
    @anonymous

    Harry Fleish is a very old man. It seems he has not used the many years granted to him to dispel the deep, triumphalist hate that oozes from every frame of the US military “War Department Orientation Film” but instead has nurtured hate like an obsession.

    He should be ashamed of himself.

    “Ashamed” never happen. Normal people just do not understand the hate and loathing that Jews have for their fellow humans.

    The Jew superiority complex is real. There is no question, the Jew is superior at conning people – he is without question ready willing and able. The Jew is a master at hiding their true intent. The Jew has no compunction or scruples when it comes to lies. They abuse people with this evil talent. One must hate those they continually abuse – it is human nature. The only way one can continue to con people is to look down on them and hate them.

    Make no mistake Shama, iffen, et al are true conmen and haters.

    Peace — Art

    • Disagree: SolontoCroesus
  450. What surprises the most is that you were not terminated before? You state what should be obvious to anyone, but in the end it’s all of us who lose… Jewish interests influence the media, the entertainment industry, and much of the military. As a result, most especially in the film industry, story lines, directing and producing films is strictly limited by Jewish boundaries, and although Jewish influence is considerably entertaining, it is by default limiting itself to Jewish perceptions, and thus misses out on the talent and artistic representations of multi-faceted ethnic richness.

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