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The hysteria unfolding regarding events in Charlottesville reminds me of the anti-Russia madness that has made front page news ever since Hillary Clinton discovered that she had lost the presidential election to Vladimir Putin. The media train is again rushing headlong into a terra incognita with its only goal being to bring down President Donald Trump by riding a wave of anti-right wing extremist revulsion. The establishment press is essentially enforcing its own code of ethics, insisting that just because what the mainstream characterizes as morally repugnant “Nazi-scum” and white nationalists exist they are ultimately fully responsible for any violence that is required to defeat them and disrupt their activities. For the ubiquitous talking heads like Wolf Blitzer and Rachel Maddow to believe otherwise is to posit moral equivalency between the good guys and bad guys, something that cannot be tolerated.

As far as I can determine, almost no one knows much about the specific agendas of the various parties that were involved in last week’s fracas in Charlottesville. My own viewpoint extends only as far as a strong belief that the deconstruction of this nation through the elimination of select historical monuments is wrong, particularly when said monuments commemorate people who fought and died for their country. As I am a Vietnam-era army veteran I would concede that my judgment in that regard is somewhat skewed.

That aside, there are several other issues that should be of general interest that have been largely obscured by the violence that erupted and the media interpretation of the event to fit in with its own preferred narrative.

First and foremost is the free speech issue which is being conveniently ignored by a media and political class intent on punishing the white nationalist protesters no matter what rights have to be trampled along the way. As far as I can determine, the primary objective of the Unite-the-Right gathering was to protest against removing a statue, so one has to at least assume that some demonstrators were there in good faith based on that issue. And surely many of the counter-demonstrators were there to protest peacefully against some of the admittedly extremist groups marching under the Unite umbrella.

If President Donald Trump chooses to describe those individuals as good people, that is up to him to make that assessment based on what he was witnessing and hearing, but that is not what is really important. As far as I am concerned it matters not a whit whether some of the Unite marchers call themselves neo-Nazis or alt-Right because they had a permit to march and had a perfect right to gather, speak out and demonstrate. No one has a right to attack someone else or silence them because you disapprove of them. That is what the First Amendment is all about, the protection of every individual’s right to speak his or her own mind, particularly important if one is expressing unpopular or unorthodox views. It matters not at all if the speaker is a Communist, Fascist, a Green or a Libertarian, he or she has the same right. If that speaking-out morphs into threats of violence or degenerates into actual violence there are laws to deal with that, so free speech is not and should not be construed as a license to run amok.

Likewise, the so-called Antifa protesters had a right to demonstrate and deliver their message, though it is somewhat troubling that they appear not to have had a permit to gather and the police allowed them to effectively take control of the streets. One might also note that it is the political left, so called progressives, that have been in the forefront of using violence, particularly on college campuses, to shut down debate on issues they object to. They have successfully denied access to speakers who are routinely vilified as “racists” or “Nazi-scum,” including Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, Charles Murray and Ben Shapiro, and have “shut down” pro-Donald Trump rallies. They push their agenda while simultaneously ignoring the racism and domestic terror agenda of groups that they approve of like Black Lives Matter. This counter-demonstration in Charlottesville might easily be seen as the latest manifestation of that particular form of left-wing self-righteous bigotry, to shut down by violence a group that hard core leftists are not willing to tolerate.

It is important to bear in mind that there is great danger in selectively endorsing politically correct Free Speech. If either the left or right is successful and we lose our First Amendment rights through “hate speech” legislation or other forms of state censorship such as have been introduced in Europe it is safe to say that we will have lost our republic.

A second major issue is the role of local, state and federal government in what both did and did not happen. I have looked at a lot of footage of the rioting and have also spoken to several people who were there as observers. I wanted to know just how big the alleged Nazi and Klan contingents were, – 100, 500, a 1,000? – which would seem to me to be essential to understanding what took place. When I sought to discover more about the size of the groups that demonstrated and counter-demonstrated I learned that there was nothing definitive in the media on the issue.

I had been told by one of the witnesses that the so-called white nationalists were greatly outnumbered and had not initiated the violence, which would certainly alter the narrative, so I picked up the phone and eventually got through to the Charlottesville police department only to be told that there had been no public declaration of the numbers involved or sequence of events but someone would call me back. No one has returned the call and I find it very odd that those in authority have not even bothered to describe the event and how it developed from an official point of view, if only for “lessons learned” to correct the procedures in place that led to the violence.

There was in fact a considerable police presence in the area, even accounting for bathroom breaks and donut runs, but it was invisible where it needed to be, i.e. keeping the two groups separated, which it had apparently agreed to do after meeting with the organizers of Unite-the-Right. Both right-wing and left-wing participants in the protests have described how the police closed the park with the Lee statue before standing around and only “looking on” when the fighting started. It is difficult to describe this failure to separate the groups and clear the streets as an oversight, so it must have been deliberate.

Charlottesville has a liberal Democratic mayor named Mike Signer who quickly climbed on the bandwagon to condemn the Unite-the-Right protesters before, during and after the events of Friday night and Saturday. He appeared on national television in an interview with Jake Tapper on the morning after the Saturday riot to lay the blame for the unrest on Donald Trump. One wonders what orders the Charlottesville police had received, not to mention the numerous state troopers present who were under the control of Governor Terry McAuliffe, another liberal Democratic stalwart. Who attacked whom? Why did no one intervene until the fighting was well under way? Was the official indifference just dumb or deliberate?

And finally, there is the possible role of the federal government in what developed. One media source has identified some of the allegedly radical groups that came together to demonstrate on both sides. Among the so-called supremacist groups one finds the Alt Knights, Klu Klux Klan, Identity Evropa, Traditionalist Youth Network, League of the South and the so-called “3% Risen.”

On the left, there was Antifa and Redneck Revolt. Interestingly, though the media has made much of the fact that some of the right-wing activists were armed, it has chosen to overlook the fact the some of the left, most particularly Redneck Revolt, also brought their guns along while many more counter-protesters were prepared for action, carrying baseball bats and wearing helmets and balaclavas to hide their faces. In any event, neither side resorted to the use of firearms.

In reviewing the list of the various groups involved in the protests, I was reminded of the old quip that the American Communist Party only survived financially speaking in the post Second World War environment because it had been heavily infiltrated by dues paying members planted by the FBI. Placing one’s informants in the middle of a radical group is a time-honored practice that has exploded in the U.S. since 9/11. Hardly any arrests in so-called terrorism cases are made without an FBI informant being somewhere on the scene. Of course, the informant is not supposed to encourage or participate in any illegal action, but lacking a fly on the wall when something goes down who is to know? FBI officers get promoted on the basis of arrests made and both domestic and international terrorism constitute high priority targets. I would assume that there FBI informants among the Klu Kluxers, the neo-Nazis and also within Richard Spencer’s National Policy Institute. On the left, I would bet there were some inside sources working the Redneck Revolt and Antifa.

The likelihood that there were paid FBI informants on both sides of the conflict leads me to believe that the federal government knows exactly what took place on August 12th in Charlottesville, but perhaps no one has either the guts or requisite integrity to be honest about it as it might be embarrassing all around. What if it turns out that the politically more acceptable counter-demonstrators deliberately provoked the violence and were allowed to get away with it?

Even as I write this the tsunami “orgy of self-righteousness,” as George Neumayr describes it, connected to Charlottesville continues to grow. Steven Sailer has asked how long it will be before an alleged neo-Nazi is publicly lynched with the media blaming the victim for his own demise? And with all those apparent storm troopers marching around, it hasn’t taken long for Jewish groups to raise the specter of a tide of anti-Semitism in America all due to Trump, which inevitably means that the accommodating media and pandering politicians will get their talons into this story for a long time to come on that basis alone. Al Sharpton meanwhile wants to defund the Jefferson Memorial and there are moves afoot to remove all the statues of former slaveholders from the Capitol building. Can James Madison, James Monroe and even George Washington himself be next? Will Washington the city be renamed Tubman? Stay tuned.

 
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  1. Alfa158 says:

    “The likelihood that there were paid FBI informants on both sides of the conflict leads me to believe that the federal government knows exactly what took place on August 12th in Charlottesville, but perhaps no one has either the guts or requisite integrity to be honest about it as it might be embarrassing all around. What if it turns out that the politically more acceptable counter-demonstrators deliberately provoked the violence and were allowed to get away with it?”

    Gee you think?

    Well there won’t be any embarrassment because a) the Imperial media will never cover such a story and if it leaked out anyway; b) The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.

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    • Replies: @jack ryan
    Yeah, maybe some. But, almost all of this was done by corrupt, lying folks in Virginia state and local. The Virginia governor and the (J tribe) Charlottesville VA mayor openly worked to deny the UnitetheRight their legal right to demonstrate in Lee Park/Emancipation Park and the local police and state national guard force the UnitetheRight Demonstrates to exit the park to be attacked by massed mobs of Antifa/BlackLivesMatter mobs. This was deliberate. So it wasn't all some Federal conspiracy in the Trump administration.

    These college towns like Charlottesville VA or Durham (Duke) N.C. have been taken over politically and in the faculty by hard core Leftists, anti Whites - the wealthy alumni of these once solid Conservative Southern colleges generally doesn't care as long as the basketball teams do well and the College rankings stay high (rankings done by Harvard and Yale type academics).

    I know the score as I went to the former Southern Conservatives University of Vanderbilt University in Nashville TN. Vanderbilt now has a J tribe Chancellor Nicholas Zeppos who was a former Leftist Law professor at the University of Wisconsin Madison - the same college town that now has an openly Castro Communist mayor who just ripped out Confederate grave stones outside of Madison.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.
     
    I have cast about for several months, looking for an encompassing term to include "Deep State", "Alt-Left", "neocons", and of course the ubiquitous generic, "democrat".

    I rather like your coinage of "The Empire", and will begin using it frequently.

    Check's in the mail. ;-)
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  2. Dube says:

    Charlottesville: the numbers in the field. If you don’t know the numbers and deployment, you don’t know the event.

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  3. Based on eyewitness accounts and video footage of what took place in Charlottesville, these facts have emerged: antifa agitators came to Charlottesville impose street justice on their ‘Nazi’ opponents and shut down the lawful and peaceful assembly of a conservative minority.

    This is not the first time that antifa activists have unleashed premeditated violence upon their political adversaries.

    Antifa thugs (and their political enablers) are on a dark mission: to deny the constitutional guarantees of free speech, public assembly and free association to racially-conscious whites. This is a totalitarian agenda.

    Further, the mainstream media–using biased analysis and inflammatory reporting–is enabling this pernicious pattern of antifa violence to spread.

    Today, Americans are taught to celebrate the ‘Jewish Community’, the ‘gay community’, the ‘black community’, the ‘Hispanic community’.

    But never the ‘white community’. That is not allowed. Never–even though Euro-Americans are the heart and soul of our extraordinary, English-speaking civilization.

    Fact: white advocacy is not ‘white supremacy’.

    Yet our mainstream media declares it so.

    This deception does real harm. Whites are divided. Ashamed.

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    White cohesion has been declared racist and uniquely evil. This may be good news for ambitious and envious blacks, gays, Hispanics and Jews. But whites are in decline.

    This worldview is partly the product of double standards. These double-standard are underhanded.

    Antifa extremism is being used by the Liberal establishment to crush if not eradicate white memory and white continuity.

    Please sign and circulate the petition to declare antifa a terrorist organization.

    https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization

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    • Replies: @tjm
    You are putting blacks, Latinos and Jews on equal footing, that is ridiculous.

    The ruling class are Zionist Jews, who use blacks and Latinos to destroy American society, to pit us against each other.

    Those behind the "antifa" are the same rich Zionists that have pushed for the destruction of Russia, Spain, England...

    The "Tribe" is at war with US, they control the media, Washington and Wall Street.
    , @lavoisier
    Everything you are saying is true. But the real puzzle here is that the people who most despise Western Civilization and the white people who created that civilization are other white people.

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people. These braindead ethnomasochists are the problem, and I do not believe it is simply brainwashing that has led them to act in such a destructive way towards their own civilization and people.

    Sure, the Jewish control of the media and the culture and their frequent hostility to the goyim has encouraged this destructive impulse, but these people are responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

    The modern white liberal has become a genuine threat to our freedoms, our way of life, and our survival as a civilization.

    Their ethnomasochism has to be defeated if Western Civilization has any hope to survive.

    , @Rurik

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.
     
    there is an epidemic of white men committing suicide

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ywsSInVMF8
    , @Wally

    "The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

    The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone."

    - from: 'The Spirit Of Militarism', by Nahum Goldmann

    Goldmann was the founder & president of the World Jewish Congress
     
    , @Brendan Tnais
    Thank you Mark Green for including the petition and for your comment.I just read a Congressional Resolution generated from the Senate which required the President's signature though it was not clear to me what that bound the President to do if anything. The Resolution “rejects white nationalism, white supremacy and neo-Nazism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values that define the people of the United States.”
    And: "The resolution assiduously avoids blaming any other parties for the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, last month, when white supremacists sought to protect Confederate monuments. An alleged white supremacist rammed his car into a group of counter-protestors, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who is named and honored in the resolution". [note: the preceding quotes are from a JTA article of Sept. 7, 2017. I just learned yesterday that Heather Heyer was not struck aby any vehicle but was present at the sight and collapsed with a heart attack and when EMT people were resuscitating her on the ground at the site she had a second cardiac arrest and died. She was obese and I saw no info about her medical history. However, it is unreasonable to blame the driver for her death. There is no mention of the city police stand down.
    One interview I saw on youtube was with a young man who was involved in organizing the' unite the right' march and said he that he had worked with the city police for two months planning a march route and police placements that were designed to minimize the likelihood of violent confrontations between the marchers who had obtained a city permit to march and the presumed hostile armed and dangerous ANTIFA/BLM type violent memed anti-White people organizations presumed to be funded by a famed mischievous Billionaire psychopath. But, on the day of the march the city police never showed up and instead surrounding the park were state police who were not interested in the plans made by the city police and forced the marches into a veritable Gauntlet situation where the had to go down s street with crowds of hostile adversaries positioned to left and right and who commenced to physically assault the marchers and throw bags or balloons of feces and urine onto them! It was a set up asserted the young organizer.

    JTA also notes that President Trump was essentially finessed into signing the Resolution which blames White people alone for the Charlottesville VA Psy-op event's violence: "The Senate has advanced a bipartisan resolution post-Charlottesville calling on President Donald Trump to reject white supremacists and, in a rare move, requiring his signature." What appears to have occurred with the Resolution was a Congress taking aides with ANTIFA, the nature of which cannot be reasonably misunderstood as other than a group that exists to violently suppress White people engaging in Public Expression of Political Free Speech regarding their perceived self interest.
    ANTIFA was designed to be a psychopath magnet and attracts only people wanting to violently and viciously attack other people under cover of their political utopian theories while enjoying a remarkable protection from the police and mass media, and perhaps hidden hands and now apparently from the US Congress explicitly! What young psychopath would be without.
    Essentially Congress and ANTIFA are as one in this matter and Congress actively protected that violent [Jewish?] agenda agency of free speech suppression. It is appalling and darkly significant.
    There is no one except President Trumping trumping the need to be fair and reasonable and he was apparently finessed and signed the Resolution although he could have braved the media echochamber of hysterical accusations and defamations of him an his family and sent the Resolution back to Congress with conditions for his signature that included a change of terms condemningAny racial/ethnic supremacism not the imaginary White Supremacism alone. After all, in reality Jewish Supremacism is the only racial supremacist entity in America today; not withstanding bused-in loads of red neck looking-whitemen with white t-shirts with 18 inch KKK letters written with magic markers on front and back. And ANTIFA should have been specifically mentioned as the evidence is remarkably complete that they exist as a violent suppression tactic group comprised of ardent supporters of jewish-political-communism and it's sister entity anarchism whose target has been so clearly, and repeatedly articulated by Berkeley CA area ANTIFA organizer Yvette Felarca in interviews viewable on youtube and one with Tucker Carlson on Fox news; which is also viewable on youtube. Felarca is a self described 47 y.o immigrant filipena who
    clearly states her position as ANTIFA organizer that White supremacists do not have any right to free speech; and their political public speech represents neo-nazi recruitment and must be stopped BAMN by any means necessary. In essence this is the game: ANTI-First Amendment-by Any Means necessary. The resolution passed by Congress is a very bad sign that leaves no doubt as to their hostile view of and intentions toward White Americans. All the more so as the Charlottesville VA
    seems highly likely to be a set-up from the beginning though it is possible that the alt-right Spencer
    was not intentionally knowledgeable about that. The actual organizers, about whom I know nothing,
    may well have been part; the mass media was totally on board with persistent false and inaccurate
    coverage, which was consistent with the previous year of ANTIFA attack events which also involved police stand downs which is surely a novel element that favors only ANTIFA which is an attack force
    that appears to outnumber their targets in the events i looked into via the youtube videos which are plentiful regarding UCB Berkeley on the Milo talk cancellation date -where both university and city police were on stand down and nowhere to be seen for the hours of the melee where a large cadre of all in black ISIS-like coutured people with faces covered by black scarves and armed with at least pepper spray and clubs or poles or metal pipes set about assaulting targeted people whom they determined were white supremacists or neonazis etc. in some inexplicable way-but really they just targeted White people who looked isolated. In Sacramento the police were present but did not interfere with ANTIFA attacks unless in the third stage [my terminology] the kicking was sufficiently vicious and persisted for an extended period with no sign of abatement and was nearby a policeman or two they would intervene in the penultimate moment before murder occurred. That is how it looks repeatedly in the videos of last year's Sacramento CA ANTIFA attack on a group of White men who had obtained a permit to protest [immigration policy I think] at the Capitol. The attack was visibly vicious and afterward the triumphant Yvette Felarca gave an interview which is also on youtube where she scorned the cowardice of ANTIFA's targeted white supremacists who wisely ran away when possible but it was not always possible to escape the numerous black clad faces covered attackers. The three stages I have seen in the videos are first an antifa assassin pepper sprays the target's eyes suddenly from in front with no warning and as the target instinctively reacts to cover his eyes [or hers, there was an important female attack in Berkeley to which Felarca admitted to once she was identified as the front attacker] and almost concurrently an antifa agent from the rear starts pounding the target's skull from behind in what appears to be an intention to crack thhe skulls of the targets. In some cases the target starts running away soon enough as to have a chance of escape but quiteoften in the videos the target ends up falling or being tripped to fall on the ground. It must be in their training to do this as once a target is on the ground all available antifa gang members in the immediate vicinity rush over and start kicking the target viciously all over the body; sometimes there are too many antifans and their kicks interrupt each others. It was in the Sacramento videos which were all in daylight that the police though not interfering with the ANTIFA attackers generally did on rare occasions intervene when they saw the kicking stage being prolonged and posing the prospect of likely lethal outcomes. Were the police ordered to intervene only if an attack looked likely to be fatal? Or was that a breach of their stand down orders due to human compassion and a sense of responsibility endowed by the possession of a badge [shield] that protects them to an extraordinary degree from legal ramifications of their acts which occur during their functioning as guardians of public safety? I do not know the answer but there is no question that the Sacramento police stood by and allowed a vicious ANTIFA assault with clubs etc. on an otheriwse peaceful political demonstration about a national and state issue of massive numbers of immigrants, 60 million combined legal and illegal in the last 30 years alone. One last thing, the 1965 immigration law was a reverse of the law it replaced and allowd for only a possible 10 % of annual immigrants to be from White European peopled countries; it was and is an anti-White immigration law. Perhaps thre should be a Change.org petition to change that law and reverse it to be what it had been before the 1965 law but preferably to have a 10 year moratorium on any immigration at all.
    their have likely been well over 80 million immigrants, mostly non-White since 1965. Yet in the past 30-40 years most of the US manufacturing capacity, machinery from factories, has been removed to off shore locations, primarily Communist China in a process call de-industrialization facilitated by Wall St. in cooperation with Congress which also removed the protective tariffs under which US manufacturing was nurtured and grew to be an enormously powerful WealthGenerating apparatus.
    The Goose that laid Golden eggs for America removed to Communist China. So huge immigration for numerous years was certainly not a logical modality. the purpose of the massive specifically non-White immigration is to make White Americans a Minority in America. And its had been going on
    and escalating for two generations without the mass media nor Congress alerting the American people who were 90% of the 1965 population and now may scarcely be 66%. You should try to get the information from the CENSUS BUREAU which is tracking the date by which Whites will be irrevocably a minority in this country. I will end this comment with a link to a free article PDf download from the author's website which documents in detail the struggle from 1881 to 1965 for the control of the US Immigration Law & Policy. And anyone who knows how to write a petition might consider one to put a complete moratorium cessation on immigration for 10 or 15 years.
    www. kevinmacdonald .net/immigration .pdf White Americans [ and in much or all of Europe] should be afraid and channel their logical reality based fear into at least learning as much as possible about the reality of America and the supremacist Jewish power elite which rules here [and over the West as a whole]. And figure out how to unite to protect White people before it is too late, assuming it is not already. Turning off the mind control mass-media apparatus is probably necessary
    to break the spell we are all under; mesmerized by endless entertainments featuring walking dead , whether zombies, vampires or the number of new modalities of walking dead created for our entertainment.[?] And perhaps change.org can play a part in warding off the genocide of White Americans which is as real today as it was for the Russian people circa 1910.
    , @Rainsrg
    No one seems to be asking the important question: Why were weapons (from clubs to semi-automatic weapons), shields, and torches allowed at Charlottesville? I am in favor of free speech for both sides. However, reasoned debate does not require semi-automatic weapons, shields, or torches. When a group wants to demonstrate they should be limited to verbal communication, paper handouts stating their position, and signs. NO WEAPONS!! Anyone bringing a weapon (including someone who has a concealed carry permit) should be either turned away or arrested. Rainsrg
  4. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Another excellent essay. Mr. Giraldi, I would appreciate knowing what you think about one particular aspect of the stagecraft.

    Having watched a few (not all, especially as some have been squelched) of the videos assembled under the parallel Cleburne article, my impression is that these so-called Uniters of The Right may have selected the forum because they, like the Establishment generally, desired a violent altercation.

    The Friday night torchlight parade as filmed by Vice seems almost scripted, provocative “reality TV” to stoke fear and loathing among the American manipullati. Men who look like Haven Monohan’s frat brothers chanting “Blood And Soil” (really?!), in perfect formation behind a drum major who looks like a Viking Hell’s Angel, all left undisturbed by observers. Are these even the same people sent packing on Saturday from the park and down the street to be abused by hundreds of counter-protestors, as seen in the Goldy video?

    Thank you.

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    • Replies: @Redman
    Thank you for this. I had the same impression but have been unable to find any analysis of the "blood and soil" video being shown by CNN and the "International" media which you describe.

    It seemed to be filmed as if by a documentary film crew with lighting, quick cuts and special effects.

    The participants looked like Hollywood actors rather than the typical people you see at a protest. Even the "fights" appeared to be staged. More like a mosh pit being filmed. Punches are seen being thrown, but you never see anyone hit or any blood. And there was just ONE arrest according to the media. Hmmm....
    , @Wade
    It was almost certainly scripted. It resembles the Svoboda marches in Ukraine down to the Tiki torches, "Blood and Soil" chants and style of flags that the US to overthrow the president of Ukraine. Watch this:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L58T2dl997A
    , @Talleyrand
    Blood and Soil (really?!) Well silly me. I thought it was a reference to Spengler's The Decline of the West because Spengler came real close to nailing it.
  5. “… particularly when said monuments commemorate people who fought and died for their country ….”

    There’s a self-proclaimed “Great American” Conservative talk-show host, Bill Cunningham, who makes a great deal of the fact that leaders of the CSA and its forces were in open rebellion against the USA and are therefore not worthy of being memorialized. He is, of course, looking at this in the post-Civil War context, where the Union is now deemed to essentially be indivisible by a decision of the Supreme Court (Texas v. White, 74 US 700 (1869)). Had the war gone to a draw or a CSA victory, one could easily say that these folks were indeed fighting and dying for their country, but that is apparently controversial even on the self-proclaimed right.

    I would agree in any case that they were fighting and dying for a country as they knew it in the context of their times and its contemporaneous politics; there is no question that they were fighting and dying for their respective States and the overall cause of the rights of those States.

    The Civil War was fought for a number of reasons, of which slavery is but a minor cause, but it has been co-opted to lend a moral credence to the second vanquishment not only of the Southern States but all of the States.

    This isn’t about erasing the memories of slavery so much as to cement once and for all a Federal supremacy, regardless of whether or not it is being run by and for the benefit of some unsavory characters and their pet causes, and you in your local communities are to have no say whatsoever on the course it will run.

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    • Replies: @JudgeSmails
    Good analysis although I've heard Cunningham recently since Charlottesville remark more than once that the southern states "declared war" on the northern states. This is factually untrue. Neither side made such a declaration.

    Secession, rebellion, insurrection are all more accurate terms for the South's actions. A "Great American" like Cunningham who makes his living with words (he's also a law-ya) should be more precise with them.
    , @Carroll Price
    Confederate soldiers fought defending a nation known as the Confederate States of America which came into existence following formal documents being written, signed and submitted to foreign nations declaring itself an independent nation. With these documents being also submitted to the adjacent United States of America which exactly 84 years earlier, had taken the same legal steps in declaring it's independence the British Crown which, by the way would have never happen had the Southern people not essentially defeated the British on their own. The fact that none of this is known by most Americans, including Southerners is due to deliberate attempts being made to de-legitimize the Southern people's heroic struggle to create and defend a nation that was more in keeping with what they thought they were getting when they became part of the United States.
  6. The weird thing in recent history is that what the British wanted with WWI was the break up op the multicultural Habsburg empire.
    There should be self determination.
    Equally weird is that jews felt safe in this multicultural empire, they also feel safe in the multicultural USA, I suppose one of the reasons AIAC has an office in Brussels.
    USA president Wilson supported this bre

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    published too soon

    Wilson supported this break up by his princple of self determination, nationalism.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, equals racism etc.
    Pre WWI GB wanted the break up of the Habsburg empire, they feared Pan Germanism, direction ME, India and Far East.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, threatens the EU.
  7. @jilles dykstra
    The weird thing in recent history is that what the British wanted with WWI was the break up op the multicultural Habsburg empire.
    There should be self determination.
    Equally weird is that jews felt safe in this multicultural empire, they also feel safe in the multicultural USA, I suppose one of the reasons AIAC has an office in Brussels.
    USA president Wilson supported this bre

    published too soon

    Wilson supported this break up by his princple of self determination, nationalism.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, equals racism etc.
    Pre WWI GB wanted the break up of the Habsburg empire, they feared Pan Germanism, direction ME, India and Far East.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, threatens the EU.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Pan-Germanism wasn't fostered by the existence of the multicultural, multinational Austro-Hungarian Empire, so that is a reason, just one of a number, to doubt your assertion that the British, before WWl, had a serious purpose of breaking it up. What is your authority, where are your references for such a novel view?
    , @Seamus Padraig
    Realize that Warmonger Wilson's 'Fourteen Points' were only intended to apply to enemy powers: Germany, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire. They were never intended to apply to the British or French Empires. Wilson's alleged nationalism was a complete sham.
    , @Skeptikal
    Yes, it is decidedly interesting and worth noting how the concepts such as nationalism change their spots. What is right an dgood in one era suddenly lbecomes evil in the next. I guess it all depends on how the elites see their bread buttered.

    One of Churchill' s main strategic goals with WWI was the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and a land grab for Brits and French. Screw the Arabs! Jews had been in pretty good shape in the Ott. Empire. They could move to Palestine if they wanted to and could buy land. But they, and the Brits, completely sidelined the Palestinian Arabs' nationalistic aspirations. In fact, all of the Arabs.
    Perfidious Albion!!!
  8. CalDre says:

    Great points.

    But not complete without mentioning that the Oligarch Media translated Trump repeatedly condemning neo-Nazis, KKK, racism and bigotry but saying there were “good and bad people on both sides” into “Trump endorses Adolph Hitler and mournfully laments the defeat of Nazism in 1945″.

    Because not only do you deserve state-sanctioned (and Oligarch Media incited) violence if you have an opinion the Oligarch Media finds odious (read: challenges the Oligarch’s grasp on power), you deserve death even if you knowingly associate with them. There can be no “good person” marching with a KKK member in opposition to a political decision.

    Let’s call out ANTIFA for what it is – neo-Bolshevism, in all its essential tenets. It is still the Communists who claim to be “anti-fascist”, as if somehow that exonerates them from their own wrongdoings (which in many respects exceed those of “fascists” and certainly those of “neo-Nazis”, who AFAICT haven’t committed any major physical crimes) in an “ends-justify-the-means” type of justification (spoiler alert: the ends are the same as the means).

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    • Replies: @Bogart
    This isn't "Neo-Bolshevism" but just plain Bolshevism. And the Nazi Brown Shirts were based upon the Bolsheviks. The worst part is that Stalin flipped his propaganda to be more like the Nazis and their "National" component versus the Bolshevik "International/Class" component.

    And the insanity of things like this fellow Robert Lee being reassigned only goes to show how far the West has fallen.
    , @Carroll Price
    The only real difference between neo-Nazis and ANTIFA is that neo-Nazis are traditional nationalist while ANTIFA are Communist Internationalist. If I had to side with either one, I'd side with the neo-Nazis, as would (I hope) a large percentage of Americans.
  9. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Nobody died at Columbine. Boston Marathon 9/11 passengers, etc.
    Its time Americans wake up to reclaim the nation.

    Staging this kind of event is child’s play for the CIA.. For them, its part of the standard regime change profile.
    Mind control technology delivers activist to the place in the space to commit overt ….acts and to take in true patsy form the untraceable source of the blame for conflict of ideas to be escalated to mayhem.
    Conflict escalation [Ce} was a major tool for the Leninist plan to bring the Czar of Russia down in February, 1917 Such Ce and it has been successfully applied in the political space of many nations to bring down well like national leaders. Ce Chaos is the name of the game! Chaos is one of the dispersant that can be added to separate the people of a nation from the peace afforded to them by their political structures. Chaos unleashes abusive power the law and order prevent. Those hidden behind the scenes have a plan..but it cannot be implemented if the political and cultural structures of the target society remains strong and its principles upheld . To weaken structure: opposing interest are pitted against each other to disturb the peace and to create chaos. As the structural integrity of the target political and cultural system begin to weaken the plan is put into action.
    The nations people’s support for the structure is generally strong enough to keep the political and cultural structure in place(i.e.the people continue to adhere to the law and order accustomed to their national society). What destroys that structure is chaos! Chaos works because it weakens the leadership. What chaos does is to allow behind the scene take-overs, it allows to enrage the uninformed public so, that the public itself encourages legislatures to enact the kind of Draconian rules that self-generate chaos (i.e. limits on free speech, curfews, and intrusions by governments of law and use of force). My fellow Americans find themselves once again victims of a mirage staged by those who intended chaos to be generated, the tools of the chaos generating teams were used to stir to a frenzy, those who were sincere as to a heart-felt. I quote the article “radical groups .. came together to demonstrate on both sides?” just as was done in 1917 Russia!
    OUTCOME: chaos disperses the people caught inside of media controlled political space..

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    • Replies: @Chris Dakota
    I said to a cop a few yrs ago "Boston Marathon was a false flag" he said "Does it even matter?"
    True it doesn't matter, it is taken as real and the objective is realized anyway.
    Trump didn't call out Charlottesville as a false flag, he folded to the deep state and extended the war in Afghanistan.
    , @Alden
    Were the millions killed and imprisoned between 1917 and 1955 in the Soviet Union crisis actors in some elaborate American intelligence operation?
  10. The Antifa:”We give our enthusiastic support to the hardcore racial identity politics of Blacks…Hispanics…Muslims…Hindus…Sihks…Asians….if Whites engage in White Identity Politics….We will kill them!!!”

    This Antifa are the shock troops of the Corporations….

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Is that a real quote from somewhere (that has not just made it up) or have you made it up?
  11. Redman says:
    @anonymous
    Another excellent essay. Mr. Giraldi, I would appreciate knowing what you think about one particular aspect of the stagecraft.

    Having watched a few (not all, especially as some have been squelched) of the videos assembled under the parallel Cleburne article, my impression is that these so-called Uniters of The Right may have selected the forum because they, like the Establishment generally, desired a violent altercation.

    The Friday night torchlight parade as filmed by Vice seems almost scripted, provocative “reality TV” to stoke fear and loathing among the American manipullati. Men who look like Haven Monohan’s frat brothers chanting “Blood And Soil” (really?!), in perfect formation behind a drum major who looks like a Viking Hell’s Angel, all left undisturbed by observers. Are these even the same people sent packing on Saturday from the park and down the street to be abused by hundreds of counter-protestors, as seen in the Goldy video?

    Thank you.

    Thank you for this. I had the same impression but have been unable to find any analysis of the “blood and soil” video being shown by CNN and the “International” media which you describe.

    It seemed to be filmed as if by a documentary film crew with lighting, quick cuts and special effects.

    The participants looked like Hollywood actors rather than the typical people you see at a protest. Even the “fights” appeared to be staged. More like a mosh pit being filmed. Punches are seen being thrown, but you never see anyone hit or any blood. And there was just ONE arrest according to the media. Hmmm….

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    • Replies: @The King is a Fink

    The participants looked like Hollywood actors rather than the typical people you see at a protest.
     
    I thought exactly the same. It looks like a reconstruction for a documentary. Its incredibly fake looking.
  12. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Gee, look at the positive side, at least if your part of the MIC or a TBTF Wall Street Casino. The riots helped box Trump in on the Afghanistan war thing, as he now declares we’ll stay there, bombing the rubble for years to come.

    That Afghan opium will keep flowing and the hundreds of billions laundered by those Wall Street gangsters will also continue to flow.

    When the hate-filled Senator Graham admires Trump’s Afghan war speech, you know the nation is in trouble.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
    In an indirect way USA citizens continued to pay for the Afghan war, with high collateral costs, drugs prevention, overdose deaths, and crime.
    Paying through taxes would have been far cheaper.

    I for many years wondered what the USA wanted in Afghanistan, but maybe Goldman Sachs solved the problem: Afghanistan has huge lithium reserves, they stated recently.
    As some of us know, Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.

    But now there emerges another riddle: has climate change been invented in order to make a profit on conquering Afghanistan?
    And was Trump, a business man, informed of the reason to conquer and occupy the land?
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Lindsey Graham definitely has an interest in the whole man-boy love thing they've got going on in Afghanistan.
  13. tjm says:

    “The media train is again rushing headlong into a terra incognita with its only goal being to bring down President Donald Trump by riding a wave of anti-right wing extremist revulsion”.

    What a load of main stream media BS!

    The media is owned by the same Wall Street Zionist filth that own Trump.

    This idea that Trump is an “American Firster”, worked during the election, but has been seen for the lie it truly is now.

    Trump has filled his cabinet with Wall Street Zionists, continued sales of weapons to terrorist states, has INCREASED our presence in Isreal’s wars, and has continued to antagonize Russia, while TOTALLY IGNORING MASS LATINO IMMIGRATION.

    Just like with Obama, the media is playing a role as “anti-Trump”, to give Trump cover for being another Zionist puppet. When Obama was in office the ZioMedia called him the “most liberal President”, even as he took away our rights, bailed out Wall Street and sold arms to third world despots.

    Americans need to GROW UP, stop thinking the world is so black and white and see how we are being played for fools. Zionists rule Washington, and certainly Trump. Peter Thiel and Adleson are Trump’s biggest financial supporters, are we supposed to believe THEY ARE AMERICA FIRSTERS, please, they hate America, they are Zionists.

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    • Replies: @Moi
    Agree, and would add that Trump's most trusted advisers are his Jewish Orthodox son-in-law and daughter Yael.
  14. tjm says:
    @Mark Green
    Based on eyewitness accounts and video footage of what took place in Charlottesville, these facts have emerged: antifa agitators came to Charlottesville impose street justice on their 'Nazi' opponents and shut down the lawful and peaceful assembly of a conservative minority.

    This is not the first time that antifa activists have unleashed premeditated violence upon their political adversaries.

    Antifa thugs (and their political enablers) are on a dark mission: to deny the constitutional guarantees of free speech, public assembly and free association to racially-conscious whites. This is a totalitarian agenda.

    Further, the mainstream media--using biased analysis and inflammatory reporting--is enabling this pernicious pattern of antifa violence to spread.

    Today, Americans are taught to celebrate the 'Jewish Community', the 'gay community', the 'black community', the 'Hispanic community'.

    But never the 'white community'. That is not allowed. Never--even though Euro-Americans are the heart and soul of our extraordinary, English-speaking civilization.

    Fact: white advocacy is not 'white supremacy'.

    Yet our mainstream media declares it so.

    This deception does real harm. Whites are divided. Ashamed.

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    White cohesion has been declared racist and uniquely evil. This may be good news for ambitious and envious blacks, gays, Hispanics and Jews. But whites are in decline.

    This worldview is partly the product of double standards. These double-standard are underhanded.

    Antifa extremism is being used by the Liberal establishment to crush if not eradicate white memory and white continuity.

    Please sign and circulate the petition to declare antifa a terrorist organization.

    https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization

    You are putting blacks, Latinos and Jews on equal footing, that is ridiculous.

    The ruling class are Zionist Jews, who use blacks and Latinos to destroy American society, to pit us against each other.

    Those behind the “antifa” are the same rich Zionists that have pushed for the destruction of Russia, Spain, England…

    The “Tribe” is at war with US, they control the media, Washington and Wall Street.

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    • Agree: anarchyst, ChuckOrloski
    • Replies: @lavoisier
    The Tribe is not marching in the street and trashing the place. They are behind the curtain for sure, but it is the braindead white liberal who is the main stormtrooper for the left.

    These ethnomasochists must be seen clearly for what they are-- dangerous enemies of Western Civilization.

  15. The torch march scared a lot of people because ordinary people do actually feel this way now which is why they must scrub the internet of the real history they have sewn.
    Cultural Marxism is the tool used to soften up the base, it ends like Europe with feminized males who are incapable of fighting back.

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    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    Yeah, but garden torches? We might all profess to hate Nazis and White Supremacists, but it's kind of hard to be afraid of suburban Nazis and White Supremacists who can't even fashion their own torches.
  16. @Anonymous
    Nobody died at Columbine. Boston Marathon 9/11 passengers, etc.
    Its time Americans wake up to reclaim the nation.

    Staging this kind of event is child's play for the CIA.. For them, its part of the standard regime change profile.
    Mind control technology delivers activist to the place in the space to commit overt ....acts and to take in true patsy form the untraceable source of the blame for conflict of ideas to be escalated to mayhem.
    Conflict escalation [Ce} was a major tool for the Leninist plan to bring the Czar of Russia down in February, 1917 Such Ce and it has been successfully applied in the political space of many nations to bring down well like national leaders. Ce Chaos is the name of the game! Chaos is one of the dispersant that can be added to separate the people of a nation from the peace afforded to them by their political structures. Chaos unleashes abusive power the law and order prevent. Those hidden behind the scenes have a plan..but it cannot be implemented if the political and cultural structures of the target society remains strong and its principles upheld . To weaken structure: opposing interest are pitted against each other to disturb the peace and to create chaos. As the structural integrity of the target political and cultural system begin to weaken the plan is put into action.
    The nations people's support for the structure is generally strong enough to keep the political and cultural structure in place(i.e.the people continue to adhere to the law and order accustomed to their national society). What destroys that structure is chaos! Chaos works because it weakens the leadership. What chaos does is to allow behind the scene take-overs, it allows to enrage the uninformed public so, that the public itself encourages legislatures to enact the kind of Draconian rules that self-generate chaos (i.e. limits on free speech, curfews, and intrusions by governments of law and use of force). My fellow Americans find themselves once again victims of a mirage staged by those who intended chaos to be generated, the tools of the chaos generating teams were used to stir to a frenzy, those who were sincere as to a heart-felt. I quote the article "radical groups .. came together to demonstrate on both sides?" just as was done in 1917 Russia!
    OUTCOME: chaos disperses the people caught inside of media controlled political space..

    I said to a cop a few yrs ago “Boston Marathon was a false flag” he said “Does it even matter?”
    True it doesn’t matter, it is taken as real and the objective is realized anyway.
    Trump didn’t call out Charlottesville as a false flag, he folded to the deep state and extended the war in Afghanistan.

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    It matters to me when a government performs terror shows, with or without killing its own citizens.
    Such governments should be behind bars until their natural deaths.
    , @Redman
    Trump has given away a lot with his new Afghan policy. But there's no way to call something a false flag at that level without proof.

    It may be true. And in C'ville it was likely the case. But to call it that opens Trump up to a whole other level of attack. He showed balls attacking the media for their blatant bias. Can't expect much more.
  17. “It is important to bear in mind that there is great danger in selectively endorsing politically correct Free Speech. If either the left or right is successful and we lose our First Amendment rights through “hate speech” legislation or other forms of state censorship such as have been introduced in Europe it is safe to say that we will have lost our republic.”

    I hate to break it to this writer … but the train has already left the station, and some time ago. The left HAS been successful beyond “endorsing politically correct Free Speech”. They now with little resistance enforce the ever expanding PC speech codes because they own the enforcement apparatus, i.e., the MSM, the courts, the propaganda outlets that make the shaming machinery of popular culture so efficient. They have us self-censoring. Go to any university campus and see how far free speech takes you. At your workplace just casually mention a politically incorrect fact, like black-on-white homicide statistics, and see where your career goes. Technically, yes, state censorship is not yet in place, but the left doesn’t really need it that much. Plus the censorious SJWs are just one or two Supreme Court (Democrat appointed) justices in the near future, who will mop things up by upholding “hate speech” legislation that will criminalize speech that includes facts that hurt the feelings of “marginalized” people — delayed for a bit by Trump’s surprise upending of Hillary Hugo Chavez Clinton.

    The left wants more than state censorship. They see the destruction of European (white) civilization.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    The left HAS been successful beyond “endorsing politically correct Free Speech”. They now with little resistance enforce the ever expanding PC speech codes because they own the enforcement apparatus, i.e., the MSM, the courts, the propaganda outlets that make the shaming machinery of popular culture so efficient. They have us self-censoring.
     
    when I read that Israel was working on biological weapons, I instinctively didn't even think of the Palestinians. I immediately thought of those of us in the West, for whom, I've come to realize they harbor a psychotic malice so all-consuming, so netherworld-like that it transcends anything I can even possibly comprehend. I know that I'll never be even capable of glimmering that kind of soul-consuming race-hate intellectually, let alone falling victim to it, because that kind of hate is as alien to me as if it were the proclivity of a Martian from outer space.

    But nevertheless I know it exists, because I've read of it in the Ukraine in the 30s, and realize I've been marinating in it my entire life. So have the Palestinians, so have the Germans. (Especially the Germans)

    So when I heard about the biological weapons program, I winced a bit.

    but then I realized they don't need it. They've figured out an even more sinister weapon. They would simply use what they've been using on the Palestinians: ubiquitous, daily, hourly, relentless and caustic and vicious ethnic, cultural, all the way to even existential humiliation

    they would control the airwaves and the radio bands and the print, and with that they would sneer from their media bullhorns: 'you are evil people!!!' - so perniciously and relentlessly that eventually some would lose the will to even exist.

    And you see that. What are the white, SJW screeching about 'white privilege!' unless they're self-loathing zombies who've been conditioned to their (and their fellow whites) own intractable and congenital wickedness?

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GDzqEsIL2_U/WWBIFQZw7nI/AAAAAAACjNY/94vs56Jpgsgjduc6xkQjOOoOeywa0VBFQCLcBGAs/s1600/%2521%2BtWEETSpture%2B%25281%2529.JPG

    so I realized that they didn't need biological weapons per se, they'd just use humiliation and vilification and Hollywood and Madison Ave. relentless degradation as a weapon. The biological part would kick in when the females were so thoroughly racially self-loathing and offended by the startling evil of their male counterparts.. that they'd do everything in their power to avoid having an evil spawn.

    And you see this with all the white Hollywood starlets running around with kaleidoscopic broods

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/3b/ed/a8/3beda861bb4987e169307e590876ce5c.jpg

    it's the ultimate virtue signaling

    and it affects women from every niche and corner of the Western world. That is the biological weapon they have in mind, and are using to enormous success. When eventually the turning point happens, and we deplorables are a national voting minority, then things will start to happen very quickly indeed.



    BTW, I followed your link, and read your article, and I must say my hat is off to you sir!

    I could not have said it better, and wow, have you seen them for what they are.

    kudos and cheers
    , @ia
    That's an interesting article, but I don't think the anti-whites are idealogical at all. They are merely responding to the culture of human rights enshrined in the French and American revolutions. The Democrats are simply being practical in their quest for power. They more eagerly serve the human rights god's demands on believers. The god, it seems, is a black hermaphrodite.
  18. @jilles dykstra
    published too soon

    Wilson supported this break up by his princple of self determination, nationalism.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, equals racism etc.
    Pre WWI GB wanted the break up of the Habsburg empire, they feared Pan Germanism, direction ME, India and Far East.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, threatens the EU.

    Pan-Germanism wasn’t fostered by the existence of the multicultural, multinational Austro-Hungarian Empire, so that is a reason, just one of a number, to doubt your assertion that the British, before WWl, had a serious purpose of breaking it up. What is your authority, where are your references for such a novel view?

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    Sir Campbell Stuart, K.B.E., 'The Secrets of Crewe House, The Story of a Famous Campaign', London, 1920

    The book is about how British WWI propaganda was organised and conducted, and what the war aims were.
    Wilson's Eighteen Points were carefully coordinated with Northcliffe's policies, Nothcliffe led Crewe House.
    Pan Germanism of course could not exist without a German, or pro German, mentality in the Habsburg empire.
    WWI GB propaganda was that even the Ottomans were pro German.

    WWI had as purpose the breaking up of three empires, the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman.
    Hitler resurrected the German empire, what remained of the Otoman empire was far more than foreseen by the Treaty of Sèvres of 1921, just the objective of breaking up the Habsburg empire was realised.
    Atatürk is the man who maybe most changed world history, intended world history.

    The three mentioned empires were all along the Berlin Baghdad railway, nowhere I ever saw the objective of WWI so brilliantly explained as in a pamphlet made and distributed by Crewe House, the pamphlet had a map of the Berlin Baghdad railway.
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    What's your authority for being such a pompous ass?
  19. @Greg Bacon
    Gee, look at the positive side, at least if your part of the MIC or a TBTF Wall Street Casino. The riots helped box Trump in on the Afghanistan war thing, as he now declares we'll stay there, bombing the rubble for years to come.

    That Afghan opium will keep flowing and the hundreds of billions laundered by those Wall Street gangsters will also continue to flow.

    When the hate-filled Senator Graham admires Trump's Afghan war speech, you know the nation is in trouble.

    https://youtu.be/Ddgm0ScSnx4

    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
    In an indirect way USA citizens continued to pay for the Afghan war, with high collateral costs, drugs prevention, overdose deaths, and crime.
    Paying through taxes would have been far cheaper.

    I for many years wondered what the USA wanted in Afghanistan, but maybe Goldman Sachs solved the problem: Afghanistan has huge lithium reserves, they stated recently.
    As some of us know, Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.

    But now there emerges another riddle: has climate change been invented in order to make a profit on conquering Afghanistan?
    And was Trump, a business man, informed of the reason to conquer and occupy the land?

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    • Replies: @jack ryan
    "Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe."

    I respond:

    What ridiculous nonsense. Everything isn't about money. The Arab vs Israeli conflict isn't all about money - it's a racial, tribal thing.

    Why do you think Madeleine Albright and all the Zionists, Neo Conservatives went ape sh** about Nationalist Serbs trying to retake their sacred province of Kosovo? You think it was about mineral reserves. You're really either really stupid or just another liar.

    Madeleine Albright and the Zionists, Neo Conservatives were frankly just honest for a short while stating that no European country could be homogenous, nationalist. It makes no difference that the Serbs fought with the Russians/Soviets against Nationalist Germany in both World Wars or professed support for Israel.

    The tribe, neo Conservatives in the US and in the Diaspora will vigorously oppose any European oriented people who attempt nationalist immigration, military policies - everybody's a NAZI to them.

    Jeees.
    , @Chris Mallory

    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
     
    Except that the Taliban had come close to shutting down the Afghan poppy fields and the raping of little boys, before the US invaded.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Kosovo: the only country conquered for its lignite. Amazing. Revusky would be proud to call you an ally.
  20. @War for Blair Mountain
    The Antifa:"We give our enthusiastic support to the hardcore racial identity politics of Blacks...Hispanics...Muslims...Hindus...Sihks...Asians....if Whites engage in White Identity Politics....We will kill them!!!"


    This Antifa are the shock troops of the Corporations....

    Is that a real quote from somewhere (that has not just made it up) or have you made it up?

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Wizo


    It is the Antifa position...just google photos of the Antifa holding signs at the Charlottesville and Boston Protests...The Antifa don't hide their genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class....


    When Alt Right Rock Star Richard Spencer appeared on 20/20 this past Friday Night he should have said this to Antifa Lucy McCauley:"the Antifa and the Democratic Party have open violent genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority....The Alt Right is the frontline resistance to this..."
  21. @Chris Dakota
    I said to a cop a few yrs ago "Boston Marathon was a false flag" he said "Does it even matter?"
    True it doesn't matter, it is taken as real and the objective is realized anyway.
    Trump didn't call out Charlottesville as a false flag, he folded to the deep state and extended the war in Afghanistan.

    It matters to me when a government performs terror shows, with or without killing its own citizens.
    Such governments should be behind bars until their natural deaths.

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  22. @Wizard of Oz
    Pan-Germanism wasn't fostered by the existence of the multicultural, multinational Austro-Hungarian Empire, so that is a reason, just one of a number, to doubt your assertion that the British, before WWl, had a serious purpose of breaking it up. What is your authority, where are your references for such a novel view?

    Sir Campbell Stuart, K.B.E., ‘The Secrets of Crewe House, The Story of a Famous Campaign’, London, 1920

    The book is about how British WWI propaganda was organised and conducted, and what the war aims were.
    Wilson’s Eighteen Points were carefully coordinated with Northcliffe’s policies, Nothcliffe led Crewe House.
    Pan Germanism of course could not exist without a German, or pro German, mentality in the Habsburg empire.
    WWI GB propaganda was that even the Ottomans were pro German.

    WWI had as purpose the breaking up of three empires, the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman.
    Hitler resurrected the German empire, what remained of the Otoman empire was far more than foreseen by the Treaty of Sèvres of 1921, just the objective of breaking up the Habsburg empire was realised.
    Atatürk is the man who maybe most changed world history, intended world history.

    The three mentioned empires were all along the Berlin Baghdad railway, nowhere I ever saw the objective of WWI so brilliantly explained as in a pamphlet made and distributed by Crewe House, the pamphlet had a map of the Berlin Baghdad railway.

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    • Replies: @hyperbola
    Oil and the origins of the
    ‘War to make the world safe for Democracy’
    http://www.oilgeopolitics.net/History/Oil_and_the_Origins_of_World_W/oil_and_the_origins_of_world_w.HTM

    At first almost unnoticed after 1850, then with significant intensity after the onset of the Great Depression of 1873 in Britain, the sun began to set on the British Empire. By the end of the 19th Century, though the City of London remained undisputed financier of the world, British industrial excellence was in terminal decline. .....
    .... The conversion of the British Navy under Churchill to oil from coal meant a high risk strategy as England had abundant coal but no then-known oil. It secured a major concession from the Shah of Persia in the early 1900’s. The Baghdad rail link was increasingly seen in London as a threat to precisely this oil security. The British response to the growing German disruption of the European balance of power after the 1890’s was to carefully craft a series of public and secret alliances with France and with Russia—former rivals—to encircle Germany. As well, she deployed a series of less public intrigues to disrupt the Balkans and encourage a revolt against the Ottoman Sultan via the Young Turks that severely weakened the prospects for the German Drang nach Osten. The dynamic of the rise of German assertiveness, including in addition to the Baghdad rail, the decision in 1900 to build a modern navy over two decades that could rival England’s, set the stage for the outbreak of a war in August 1914 whose real significance was a colossal and tragic struggle for who would succeed the ebbing power of the British Empire. The resolution of that epic struggle was to take a second world war and another quarter century before the victor was undeniably established. The role of oil in the events leading to war in 1914 is too little appreciated. When the historical process behind the war is examined from this light a quite different picture emerges. The British Empire in the decades following 1873 and the American Century hegemony in the decades following approximately 1973 have more in common than is generally appreciated....
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Thank you. Maybe doesn't quite get the story back to pre WW1 but hyperbola's link does serve as a reminder that oil was being though about by some at least from the time of the conversion of the navy from coal. It seems unlikely that this would have led to much thought of breaking up the rather decrepit Hapsburg empire before WW1. (It does occur to me that the thoughts of the highminded who had supported revolt against the Turks for a long time might have made logical extensions of their thinking to Austria-Hungary).
  23. JackOH says:

    Philip, thanks. My local newspaper, an intelligent and literate independent, came out against neo-Nazis today. I suspect the editor was pressured into it, because the phenomenon of neo-Nazism as a meaningful political movement doesn’t exist in my area. Neo-Nazism doesn’t exist as a meaningful political phenomenon in the United States.

    Chrissake–I’m venting here–does anyone else here see an obvious parallel between the actual historical Nazis opportunistically grasping for power after the Reichstag fire, and the Left grasping at opportunities to efface the memory of prominent Southerners using the trivial Charlottesville fracas as a pretext? What’s that old saw: he who accuses, excuses. The real Nazis seem to me the other guys–the Left.

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    The real Nazis seem to me the other guys–the Left.
     
    It's telling that I keep seeing this - referring to the violent Globalists as "Nazis". No, they are Bolsheviks. But it goes to show how Nazis, who were far less destructive than Bolsheviks, have been demonized and the Bolsheviks whitewashed. By our Star of David MSM.

    The real issue is that the "neo-Nazis" are a small, splintered, powerless group, while the neo-Bolsheviks are on the rise and have a firm grip on most organs of power.
  24. @Wizard of Oz
    Is that a real quote from somewhere (that has not just made it up) or have you made it up?

    Wizo

    It is the Antifa position…just google photos of the Antifa holding signs at the Charlottesville and Boston Protests…The Antifa don’t hide their genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class….

    When Alt Right Rock Star Richard Spencer appeared on 20/20 this past Friday Night he should have said this to Antifa Lucy McCauley:”the Antifa and the Democratic Party have open violent genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority….The Alt Right is the frontline resistance to this…”

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    "The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority"

    That oft-repeated description of your kind is cute.

    I have another oft-repeated one, for the likes of you;

    The Pagan Polytheist Human Worshipping Spiritual Ciphers.

  25. jack ryan says: • Website

    The Mainsteam Media including supposedly “Conservative” media like National Review is worse than worthless. Pravada in the 1930s gives more fair and balanced news reporting on events like the UnitetheRight rally in Charlottesville VA

    I’m having solid, small success contacting Virginia state representative (R) assistants and expressing my displeasure with the riots, the bad faith actions of Charlottesville mayor and the Virginia governor and also the fake news, lying media.

    I encourage others to contact the VA state reps and do the same. Here are some tips, be polite, be brief, don’t lecture, rant and rave. Don’t lie, but no reason to volunteer information that discredits the call.

    In my case I don’t live in Virginia, I live in Chicago. But, I explain that I applied and was accepted to the University of Virginia Charlottesville and was accepted. I explain that I wanted to go to a Southern University that respected Southern history and Southern heritage and I ended up attending Vanderbilt University which was in the mid 1980s a very Southern School. It isn’t that way now, going the way of Duke University.

    I strongly objected to the forced removal of statues of Robert E Lee and other Confederate leaders and I strongly objected to mobs of Antifa Communists, BlackLivesMatter and other Leftist mobs attacking people with baseball bats, bricks, bear mace, urine and feces and the mainstream media covering up these cowardly attacks.

    Here’s the contact link to Virginia state represents:

    http://virginiageneralassembly.gov/house/members/members.php

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  26. jack ryan says: • Website
    @Alfa158
    "The likelihood that there were paid FBI informants on both sides of the conflict leads me to believe that the federal government knows exactly what took place on August 12th in Charlottesville, but perhaps no one has either the guts or requisite integrity to be honest about it as it might be embarrassing all around. What if it turns out that the politically more acceptable counter-demonstrators deliberately provoked the violence and were allowed to get away with it?"

    Gee you think?

    Well there won't be any embarrassment because a) the Imperial media will never cover such a story and if it leaked out anyway; b) The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.

    Yeah, maybe some. But, almost all of this was done by corrupt, lying folks in Virginia state and local. The Virginia governor and the (J tribe) Charlottesville VA mayor openly worked to deny the UnitetheRight their legal right to demonstrate in Lee Park/Emancipation Park and the local police and state national guard force the UnitetheRight Demonstrates to exit the park to be attacked by massed mobs of Antifa/BlackLivesMatter mobs. This was deliberate. So it wasn’t all some Federal conspiracy in the Trump administration.

    These college towns like Charlottesville VA or Durham (Duke) N.C. have been taken over politically and in the faculty by hard core Leftists, anti Whites – the wealthy alumni of these once solid Conservative Southern colleges generally doesn’t care as long as the basketball teams do well and the College rankings stay high (rankings done by Harvard and Yale type academics).

    I know the score as I went to the former Southern Conservatives University of Vanderbilt University in Nashville TN. Vanderbilt now has a J tribe Chancellor Nicholas Zeppos who was a former Leftist Law professor at the University of Wisconsin Madison – the same college town that now has an openly Castro Communist mayor who just ripped out Confederate grave stones outside of Madison.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow

    Philip David Zelikow born September 21, 1954) is an American attorney, diplomat, academic and author. He has worked as the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, and Counselor of the United States Department of State. He is the White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia and was American Academy in Berlin Axel Springer Fellow, in the fall of 2009.
     
    , @JudgeSmails
    I also attended Vanderbilt University (in the 80's) and have witnessed the descent into its current state of diversity worshipping, politically correct admission policies. I know of several fellow alums whose children were denied admission despite academic records that should have easily merited acceptance. This has been a great disappointment to many families. One good friend, after two of his children were denied admission said to me, "I enjoyed my time at Vanderbilt, but the school is dead to me."

    Not so ironically, Vanderbilt was ahead of the curve in regards to the hysteria over removing any symbols of or any commemoration of the Old South. A building on the school's Peabody School of Education campus was known as Confederate Memorial Hall. It's now known as Memorial Hall. Seems as if the diversity was offended, and "Confederate" had to be chiseled into oblivion. This happened a few years ago.

    My question now is: Where will the line be drawn? And more importantly, by whom?
  27. anarchyst says:

    Has anyone noticed that the so-called “white supremacists” were holding brand new, recently unfolded flags and were wearing brand new, recently unfolded k kk regalia?
    It is no secret that a jewish-owned company “Crowds On Demand” was advertising for (left-wing) protesters for Charlottesville on craigslist.
    Sorta tells you something…
    The “Unite the Right” promoter Kessler was an 0′bama operative…
    The whole thing was orchestrated in order to further demonize whites…

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  28. Moi says:
    @tjm
    "The media train is again rushing headlong into a terra incognita with its only goal being to bring down President Donald Trump by riding a wave of anti-right wing extremist revulsion".

    What a load of main stream media BS!

    The media is owned by the same Wall Street Zionist filth that own Trump.

    This idea that Trump is an "American Firster", worked during the election, but has been seen for the lie it truly is now.

    Trump has filled his cabinet with Wall Street Zionists, continued sales of weapons to terrorist states, has INCREASED our presence in Isreal's wars, and has continued to antagonize Russia, while TOTALLY IGNORING MASS LATINO IMMIGRATION.

    Just like with Obama, the media is playing a role as "anti-Trump", to give Trump cover for being another Zionist puppet. When Obama was in office the ZioMedia called him the "most liberal President", even as he took away our rights, bailed out Wall Street and sold arms to third world despots.

    Americans need to GROW UP, stop thinking the world is so black and white and see how we are being played for fools. Zionists rule Washington, and certainly Trump. Peter Thiel and Adleson are Trump's biggest financial supporters, are we supposed to believe THEY ARE AMERICA FIRSTERS, please, they hate America, they are Zionists.

    Agree, and would add that Trump’s most trusted advisers are his Jewish Orthodox son-in-law and daughter Yael.

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  29. jack ryan says: • Website
    @jilles dykstra
    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
    In an indirect way USA citizens continued to pay for the Afghan war, with high collateral costs, drugs prevention, overdose deaths, and crime.
    Paying through taxes would have been far cheaper.

    I for many years wondered what the USA wanted in Afghanistan, but maybe Goldman Sachs solved the problem: Afghanistan has huge lithium reserves, they stated recently.
    As some of us know, Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.

    But now there emerges another riddle: has climate change been invented in order to make a profit on conquering Afghanistan?
    And was Trump, a business man, informed of the reason to conquer and occupy the land?

    “Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.”

    I respond:

    What ridiculous nonsense. Everything isn’t about money. The Arab vs Israeli conflict isn’t all about money – it’s a racial, tribal thing.

    Why do you think Madeleine Albright and all the Zionists, Neo Conservatives went ape sh** about Nationalist Serbs trying to retake their sacred province of Kosovo? You think it was about mineral reserves. You’re really either really stupid or just another liar.

    Madeleine Albright and the Zionists, Neo Conservatives were frankly just honest for a short while stating that no European country could be homogenous, nationalist. It makes no difference that the Serbs fought with the Russians/Soviets against Nationalist Germany in both World Wars or professed support for Israel.

    The tribe, neo Conservatives in the US and in the Diaspora will vigorously oppose any European oriented people who attempt nationalist immigration, military policies – everybody’s a NAZI to them.

    Jeees.

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    But wasn't Kosovo separated from Setbia to appease the nationalim of the Albanian/Kosovan nationalists?
    , @jilles dykstra
    My whole life I admired mind readers.
    Lacking such capability I must use my brains to find motives.
    Kosovo is the most mineral rich area of Europe.
    The zionist Palestinian conflict is about land, 'back to Palestine', after the E European pogroms.
    The Israel Arab conflict is the result of jews stealing land, ethnically cleansing Palestine.
    As Israel refuses any sensible solution of the Palestinian question Isrel is hated by most Muslims, Israel therefore must be one of the most powerful military powers in the world, and must prevent that neighbouring states become a military threat.
  30. iffen says:

    Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer and Governor Terry McAuliffe should be under investigation for criminally negligent manslaughter.

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    • Replies: @The King is a Fink
    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.
  31. Jim Bovard says: • Website

    Excellent piece. I hope we find out what the feds knew and when they knew it.

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  32. @jilles dykstra
    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
    In an indirect way USA citizens continued to pay for the Afghan war, with high collateral costs, drugs prevention, overdose deaths, and crime.
    Paying through taxes would have been far cheaper.

    I for many years wondered what the USA wanted in Afghanistan, but maybe Goldman Sachs solved the problem: Afghanistan has huge lithium reserves, they stated recently.
    As some of us know, Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.

    But now there emerges another riddle: has climate change been invented in order to make a profit on conquering Afghanistan?
    And was Trump, a business man, informed of the reason to conquer and occupy the land?

    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.

    Except that the Taliban had come close to shutting down the Afghan poppy fields and the raping of little boys, before the US invaded.

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  33. @jilles dykstra
    As I understand it Afghan opium just was collateral profit, the CIA ran out of money to finance the Taliban, who were supposed to drive the USSR out of Afghanistan, and needed money.
    In an indirect way USA citizens continued to pay for the Afghan war, with high collateral costs, drugs prevention, overdose deaths, and crime.
    Paying through taxes would have been far cheaper.

    I for many years wondered what the USA wanted in Afghanistan, but maybe Goldman Sachs solved the problem: Afghanistan has huge lithium reserves, they stated recently.
    As some of us know, Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe.

    But now there emerges another riddle: has climate change been invented in order to make a profit on conquering Afghanistan?
    And was Trump, a business man, informed of the reason to conquer and occupy the land?

    Kosovo: the only country conquered for its lignite. Amazing. Revusky would be proud to call you an ally.

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  34. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Mark Green
    Based on eyewitness accounts and video footage of what took place in Charlottesville, these facts have emerged: antifa agitators came to Charlottesville impose street justice on their 'Nazi' opponents and shut down the lawful and peaceful assembly of a conservative minority.

    This is not the first time that antifa activists have unleashed premeditated violence upon their political adversaries.

    Antifa thugs (and their political enablers) are on a dark mission: to deny the constitutional guarantees of free speech, public assembly and free association to racially-conscious whites. This is a totalitarian agenda.

    Further, the mainstream media--using biased analysis and inflammatory reporting--is enabling this pernicious pattern of antifa violence to spread.

    Today, Americans are taught to celebrate the 'Jewish Community', the 'gay community', the 'black community', the 'Hispanic community'.

    But never the 'white community'. That is not allowed. Never--even though Euro-Americans are the heart and soul of our extraordinary, English-speaking civilization.

    Fact: white advocacy is not 'white supremacy'.

    Yet our mainstream media declares it so.

    This deception does real harm. Whites are divided. Ashamed.

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    White cohesion has been declared racist and uniquely evil. This may be good news for ambitious and envious blacks, gays, Hispanics and Jews. But whites are in decline.

    This worldview is partly the product of double standards. These double-standard are underhanded.

    Antifa extremism is being used by the Liberal establishment to crush if not eradicate white memory and white continuity.

    Please sign and circulate the petition to declare antifa a terrorist organization.

    https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization

    Everything you are saying is true. But the real puzzle here is that the people who most despise Western Civilization and the white people who created that civilization are other white people.

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people. These braindead ethnomasochists are the problem, and I do not believe it is simply brainwashing that has led them to act in such a destructive way towards their own civilization and people.

    Sure, the Jewish control of the media and the culture and their frequent hostility to the goyim has encouraged this destructive impulse, but these people are responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

    The modern white liberal has become a genuine threat to our freedoms, our way of life, and our survival as a civilization.

    Their ethnomasochism has to be defeated if Western Civilization has any hope to survive.

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    • Replies: @Ximenes

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people.
     
    Has it occurred to you that most of the "white people" wearing masks and carrying weapons at antifa campaigns may be Jews?
  35. To see the root cause of the radical lefts attempt to cause discord and violence , read THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION and THE COMMITTEE OF 300 by John Coleman, can be had on Amazon, and go to Henry Makow.com.

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  36. lavoisier says: • Website
    @tjm
    You are putting blacks, Latinos and Jews on equal footing, that is ridiculous.

    The ruling class are Zionist Jews, who use blacks and Latinos to destroy American society, to pit us against each other.

    Those behind the "antifa" are the same rich Zionists that have pushed for the destruction of Russia, Spain, England...

    The "Tribe" is at war with US, they control the media, Washington and Wall Street.

    The Tribe is not marching in the street and trashing the place. They are behind the curtain for sure, but it is the braindead white liberal who is the main stormtrooper for the left.

    These ethnomasochists must be seen clearly for what they are– dangerous enemies of Western Civilization.

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    They are behind the curtain for sure...
     

    The ADL, by its own admission, was working intensively “behind the scenes” with police and government networks in Charlottesville. Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told one Jewish media outlet in the aftermath of ‘Unite the Right’:

    We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to during and after the rally. Our Center on Extremism has been collaborating with law enforcement for weeks, providing intelligence on the various white supremacist groups who subsequently showed up in Charlottesville, and investigating specific threats in real time. We remain in close contact with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders and others and continue to provide critical research, resources and community support. All of our offices have been working around the clock to respond, inform and take action [emphasis added].

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
     
  37. @jack ryan
    "Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe."

    I respond:

    What ridiculous nonsense. Everything isn't about money. The Arab vs Israeli conflict isn't all about money - it's a racial, tribal thing.

    Why do you think Madeleine Albright and all the Zionists, Neo Conservatives went ape sh** about Nationalist Serbs trying to retake their sacred province of Kosovo? You think it was about mineral reserves. You're really either really stupid or just another liar.

    Madeleine Albright and the Zionists, Neo Conservatives were frankly just honest for a short while stating that no European country could be homogenous, nationalist. It makes no difference that the Serbs fought with the Russians/Soviets against Nationalist Germany in both World Wars or professed support for Israel.

    The tribe, neo Conservatives in the US and in the Diaspora will vigorously oppose any European oriented people who attempt nationalist immigration, military policies - everybody's a NAZI to them.

    Jeees.

    But wasn’t Kosovo separated from Setbia to appease the nationalim of the Albanian/Kosovan nationalists?

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    During Tito's time ethnic Albanians were allowed to settle into Kosovo - ancient Serbia's homeland. The Serbs just wanted to hold onto what was always theirs. The US with it's idiotic nonsense about self-determination decided that anybody could declare themselves independent if they had the votes (of course that doesn't apply to Crimea).
  38. iffen says:

    though it is somewhat troubling that they appear not to have had a permit to gather and the police allowed them to effectively take control of the streets.

    Supposedly the counter-protestors had permits to assemble at two other parks. If they had not been allowed to effectively take control of the streets they would not have been in place to assault the UTR people when the police pushed the UTR people out of Emancipation Park.

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  39. TheJester says:

    Yes, this is confusing. One day Vladimir is coming to get us … he is hiding under our beds and infecting our computer systems. Disregard. The next day it is the Alt-Right hiding under our beds and infecting our water supply.

    It appears that the MSM and Progressive movement, no matter how well organized, are a “one-trick pony”. They can only posture one hysterical The End is Nigh meme at a time for public consumption. This in itself should raise suspicions that these are all pre-staged political carnivals … theaters of the absurd. The question, Who is organizing and paying for these carnivals and to what end?

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  40. @Alfa158
    "The likelihood that there were paid FBI informants on both sides of the conflict leads me to believe that the federal government knows exactly what took place on August 12th in Charlottesville, but perhaps no one has either the guts or requisite integrity to be honest about it as it might be embarrassing all around. What if it turns out that the politically more acceptable counter-demonstrators deliberately provoked the violence and were allowed to get away with it?"

    Gee you think?

    Well there won't be any embarrassment because a) the Imperial media will never cover such a story and if it leaked out anyway; b) The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.

    The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.

    I have cast about for several months, looking for an encompassing term to include “Deep State”, “Alt-Left”, “neocons”, and of course the ubiquitous generic, “democrat”.

    I rather like your coinage of “The Empire”, and will begin using it frequently.

    Check’s in the mail. ;-)

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    That should be, "The Evil Empire."

    You're welcome, and don't forget to mail that cheque, ok.
  41. Mob rule is not coming to America.
    It is already here.
    People never learn!

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  42. @jilles dykstra
    published too soon

    Wilson supported this break up by his princple of self determination, nationalism.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, equals racism etc.
    Pre WWI GB wanted the break up of the Habsburg empire, they feared Pan Germanism, direction ME, India and Far East.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, threatens the EU.

    Realize that Warmonger Wilson’s ‘Fourteen Points’ were only intended to apply to enemy powers: Germany, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Ottoman Empire. They were never intended to apply to the British or French Empires. Wilson’s alleged nationalism was a complete sham.

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  43. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @jack ryan
    Yeah, maybe some. But, almost all of this was done by corrupt, lying folks in Virginia state and local. The Virginia governor and the (J tribe) Charlottesville VA mayor openly worked to deny the UnitetheRight their legal right to demonstrate in Lee Park/Emancipation Park and the local police and state national guard force the UnitetheRight Demonstrates to exit the park to be attacked by massed mobs of Antifa/BlackLivesMatter mobs. This was deliberate. So it wasn't all some Federal conspiracy in the Trump administration.

    These college towns like Charlottesville VA or Durham (Duke) N.C. have been taken over politically and in the faculty by hard core Leftists, anti Whites - the wealthy alumni of these once solid Conservative Southern colleges generally doesn't care as long as the basketball teams do well and the College rankings stay high (rankings done by Harvard and Yale type academics).

    I know the score as I went to the former Southern Conservatives University of Vanderbilt University in Nashville TN. Vanderbilt now has a J tribe Chancellor Nicholas Zeppos who was a former Leftist Law professor at the University of Wisconsin Madison - the same college town that now has an openly Castro Communist mayor who just ripped out Confederate grave stones outside of Madison.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow

    Philip David Zelikow born September 21, 1954) is an American attorney, diplomat, academic and author. He has worked as the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, and Counselor of the United States Department of State. He is the White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia and was American Academy in Berlin Axel Springer Fellow, in the fall of 2009.

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    • Replies: @desert fox
    Zelikow was one of the neocons who helped coverup 911 which was perpetrated by the deepstate and Israel and is one of the most horrendous attacks on America in our history, and is further proof of Zionist control of the U.S. government.
    , @hyperbola
    Axel Springer Chef : "Ich bin ein Zionist"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu4ywLZc_VQ

    The Israel Lobby in Germany | Freemasonry - Scribd
    https://es.scribd.com/document/236970539/The-Israel-Lobby-in-Germany
    The ProSieben / Sat1 Group, which combines the German TV station ProSieben, Sat.1, Kabel eins, N24, 9Live and which are especially designed for women transmitter Sixx under one roof, is in possession of the Jew Haim Saban. The Axel Springer Foundation, which was part of the Axel Springer AG conducted from 1981 to 2010 by the Jew Ernst Cramer. After Cramer's death Friede Springer himself took over as CEO. Friede Springer is a Zionist and got 2000 even the Leo Baeck Prize, the highest award of the Central Council of Jews in Germany. CEO of Axel Springer AG is the Zionist Dopfner Matthias, who has held a position at the Aspen Institute Berlin at the same time. The Aspen Institute is an American lobby, which was founded after WW2 propaganda purposes. The Institute is managed by Trustees, the President and CEO is the Jew Walter Isaacson
  44. Joe Hide says:

    To Phillip Giraldi,
    You had me laughing with some of your writings. For instance, “When Hillary Clinton discovered she had lost the election to Vladimir Putin.” …HA!
    Also, Your style of asking questions and then giving only some of the possible answers made me do some thinking I wouldn’t have done otherwise. I hope You continue with this great style in the future.

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  45. Tubman? No reason not to, really. Not that her views coincide with the delusions circulating these days, either.

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    ok
    Tubman

    but what to do about District of Columbia?
    that reminds of the evil Columbus.

    Surely that should be changed to District of Netanyahu.
  46. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Fran Macadam
    Tubman? No reason not to, really. Not that her views coincide with the delusions circulating these days, either.

    ok
    Tubman

    but what to do about District of Columbia?
    that reminds of the evil Columbus.

    Surely that should be changed to District of Netanyahu.

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  47. Sbaker says:

    This was forwarded to me by the former police commissioner of Honolulu. Sbaker

    WE ARE BEING LIED TO AND WILL LOSE OUR COUNTRY IF THIS doesn’t STOP!

    _”STAND DOWN”_ (Video)

    Only one side had permits .

    Charlottesville was a set up …

    http://truthuncensored.net/charlottesville-police-come-forward-told-stand-ignite-race-war-video/

    [1]

    CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE COME FORWARD: _WE WERE TOLD TO “STAND
    DOWN”_ TO IGNITE RACE WAR (VIDEO)

    Lauren Richardson [2]

    _“WE [CHARLOTESVILLE POLICE] WERE ORDERED TO BRING THE RIVAL GROUPS
    TOGETHER – AND THEN…”_

    A CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE OFFICER HAS COME FORWARD TO EXPRESS HIS
    OUTRAGE AT BEING TOLD TO “STAND DOWN” BY THE CITY MAYOR DURING
    VIOLENT CLASHES BETWEEN PROTESTERS. The officer also claims the
    protests, which pitched “white supremacists” against members of
    Antifa, were “set up” to allow for the groups to ignite into
    exactly what happened.

    “_We [Charlotesville police] were ordered [3]to bring the rival
    groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we
    were told TO STAND DOWN. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to
    arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even
    allowed to stop the driver as he sped away._“

    “_The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it
    went like clockwork_.”

    At no point is the car that plowed into the crowd of protesters
    perused by police – there is not a police car in sight leading into
    the area, or out.

    NEW VIDEO: Car That Plowed Into Charlottesville Crowd Spotted Leaving
    the Scene

    — Breaking911 (@Breaking911) 2:00 PM – Aug 14, 2017 [4]

    Michael Signer, the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand
    down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests
    – despite police protests against the orders.

    “_WE WANTED TO DO OUR JOB AND KEEP THE PEACE. BUT THESE
    MOTHER******S IN CHARGE REALLY WANT TO DESTROY AMERICA_.”

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  48. Well, Phil, I would conjecture the entire event is being ‘milked by mainstream’ to bring pressure on Trump to eventually resign, the ‘cannot unite the nation’ mantra. Of course this could have nothing to do (to the troglodytes, this irony) with putting Pence in power. Every retired general sitting a military-industrial corporate board would prefer ‘family man’ (Coe cult’s) Pence if only because he believes in literal Armageddon and that’s good for profits.

    Now, what that might have to do with a former Department of State operative returned from Central Africa (remember the LRA’s Kony?) being CNN’s man on the spot as events unfolded I couldn’t precisely tell you, but it smells really BAD:

    https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/charlottesville-attack-brennan-gilmore-and-the-stop-kony-2012-pysop-what/

    But I expect the immediate preceding [link-facts] is all about deep state exploiting racial divide for ulterior purpose, that would be nothing new, here’s my take:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/08/13/on-charlottesville/

    Phil writes: “Can James Madison, James Monroe and even George Washington himself be next? Will Washington the city be renamed Tubman? Stay tuned”

    As far as I’m concerned, Lee’s statue can go, and so can Washington’s -

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2017/08/19/dissident-son-of-the-confederacy/

    ^

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  49. @Redman
    Thank you for this. I had the same impression but have been unable to find any analysis of the "blood and soil" video being shown by CNN and the "International" media which you describe.

    It seemed to be filmed as if by a documentary film crew with lighting, quick cuts and special effects.

    The participants looked like Hollywood actors rather than the typical people you see at a protest. Even the "fights" appeared to be staged. More like a mosh pit being filmed. Punches are seen being thrown, but you never see anyone hit or any blood. And there was just ONE arrest according to the media. Hmmm....

    The participants looked like Hollywood actors rather than the typical people you see at a protest.

    I thought exactly the same. It looks like a reconstruction for a documentary. Its incredibly fake looking.

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  50. @iffen
    Charlottesville mayor Mike Signer and Governor Terry McAuliffe should be under investigation for criminally negligent manslaughter.

    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Amendment XIV

    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Apparently does not apply to white people with views not approved by the elite.
    , @iffen
    From Wiki:

    Criminally negligent manslaughter

    Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, and gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

    It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness...

    Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death.

    , @Chris Mallory

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.
     
    Legally, no the cops do not have any requirement to protect anyone from harm. There have been several SCOTUS decisions, along with state court decisions, that have said this.
  51. CIA says:

    Oklahoma City is the template for this new CIA provocation. CIA moles under FBI cover run agents provocateur like Dillon Irizarry and Kessler (who previously did the same to Occupy as an equal-opportunity snitch.) CIA has provocateurs provoking each other to a frenzy, informing on each other to the Man, unaware that CIA is paying them all. Meanwhile other CIA agents, loaners from foreign intelligence counterparts like Mossad or BND, are planning the touchy large-scale attacks on the civilian population. The foreign loaner agents will be protected as sources with eyes-only intelligence liaison agreements. When the foreign loaners pull off CIA’s terror spectacle, CIA will exfiltrate them and pick the dumbest provocateur to get framed for it. Just like Oklahoma City.

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2015/04/22/exclusive-oklahoma-city-bombing-breakthrough-part-1-of-2/

    Just like the Boston Marathon too: Tsarnaev’s double sets off the fireworks, gets sprung from jail and sent home, Tsarnaev gets publicly executed, and his bewildered kid brother gets framed. Mass State cops Cinelli and Gagne carry out death-squad murder of the Tsarnaev associate who knew he was press-ganged as a provocateur.

    https://whowhatwhy.org/2014/12/21/boston-bombing-primer/

    https://whowhatwhy.org/category/boston-marathon-bombing/

    Let’s hope this time Kessler gets picked to play the Tamerlan Tsarnaev part.

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  52. Rurik says:
    @Mark Green
    Based on eyewitness accounts and video footage of what took place in Charlottesville, these facts have emerged: antifa agitators came to Charlottesville impose street justice on their 'Nazi' opponents and shut down the lawful and peaceful assembly of a conservative minority.

    This is not the first time that antifa activists have unleashed premeditated violence upon their political adversaries.

    Antifa thugs (and their political enablers) are on a dark mission: to deny the constitutional guarantees of free speech, public assembly and free association to racially-conscious whites. This is a totalitarian agenda.

    Further, the mainstream media--using biased analysis and inflammatory reporting--is enabling this pernicious pattern of antifa violence to spread.

    Today, Americans are taught to celebrate the 'Jewish Community', the 'gay community', the 'black community', the 'Hispanic community'.

    But never the 'white community'. That is not allowed. Never--even though Euro-Americans are the heart and soul of our extraordinary, English-speaking civilization.

    Fact: white advocacy is not 'white supremacy'.

    Yet our mainstream media declares it so.

    This deception does real harm. Whites are divided. Ashamed.

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    White cohesion has been declared racist and uniquely evil. This may be good news for ambitious and envious blacks, gays, Hispanics and Jews. But whites are in decline.

    This worldview is partly the product of double standards. These double-standard are underhanded.

    Antifa extremism is being used by the Liberal establishment to crush if not eradicate white memory and white continuity.

    Please sign and circulate the petition to declare antifa a terrorist organization.

    https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    there is an epidemic of white men committing suicide

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    What, really?!

    You mean there is still hope that this wretched world can avoid nuclear annihilation?

    Hmm...

    Nah, who are you kidding.
  53. iffen says:
    @The King is a Fink
    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.

    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Amendment XIV

    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Apparently does not apply to white people with views not approved by the elite.

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  54. iffen says:
    @The King is a Fink
    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.

    From Wiki:

    Criminally negligent manslaughter

    Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, and gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

    It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness…

    Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    I am not aware of a single case where law enforcement has been held _criminally_ liable for failure to perform.

    There have been several case where cops have not responded to 911 calls, callers have been killed, and courts have held that cops have no duty to save any one's life.

    [WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.]*

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (.....for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.

    ________________
    *
    [Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
    , @Sam Shama
    The Charlottsville administration appears rather incompetent in allowing both Antifa and the various White Supremacists to appear in the public square concurrently. I do agree McAuliffe and Co. need to be investigated, principally to discover if their motives were beyond that which can be explained by incompetence.
  55. @anonymous
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow

    Philip David Zelikow born September 21, 1954) is an American attorney, diplomat, academic and author. He has worked as the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, and Counselor of the United States Department of State. He is the White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia and was American Academy in Berlin Axel Springer Fellow, in the fall of 2009.
     

    Zelikow was one of the neocons who helped coverup 911 which was perpetrated by the deepstate and Israel and is one of the most horrendous attacks on America in our history, and is further proof of Zionist control of the U.S. government.

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  56. @The King is a Fink
    What is the legal position in the USA with respect to law enforcement officers not enforcing the law?

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.

    Legally, no the cops do not have any requirement to protect anyone from harm. There have been several SCOTUS decisions, along with state court decisions, that have said this.

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    Thanks for clarifying.

    Any reasonable person would probably agree that a police officer directly witnessing a violent crime in progress and possessing the means to intervene should do so to protect the victims.

    But I guess my mistake is assuming that the law is reasonable. It would nonetheless be interesting to see this taken to the courts. It seems odd that a full-scale riot can develop due to a poor policing decision and no-one is accountable at any level.
  57. geokat62 says:
    @lavoisier
    The Tribe is not marching in the street and trashing the place. They are behind the curtain for sure, but it is the braindead white liberal who is the main stormtrooper for the left.

    These ethnomasochists must be seen clearly for what they are-- dangerous enemies of Western Civilization.

    They are behind the curtain for sure…

    The ADL, by its own admission, was working intensively “behind the scenes” with police and government networks in Charlottesville. Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told one Jewish media outlet in the aftermath of ‘Unite the Right’:

    We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to during and after the rally. Our Center on Extremism has been collaborating with law enforcement for weeks, providing intelligence on the various white supremacist groups who subsequently showed up in Charlottesville, and investigating specific threats in real time. We remain in close contact with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders and others and continue to provide critical research, resources and community support. All of our offices have been working around the clock to respond, inform and take action [emphasis added].

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    Thanks George - I hadn't seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment's notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It's the same way AIPAC works Congress.
    , @iffen
    I refer to the ADL site all the time. They have the money and resources to turn out the information. I just read with a grain of kosher salt. :)
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Geokat62,

    Thanks for providing this valuable information.
  58. Wally says: • Website
    @Mark Green
    Based on eyewitness accounts and video footage of what took place in Charlottesville, these facts have emerged: antifa agitators came to Charlottesville impose street justice on their 'Nazi' opponents and shut down the lawful and peaceful assembly of a conservative minority.

    This is not the first time that antifa activists have unleashed premeditated violence upon their political adversaries.

    Antifa thugs (and their political enablers) are on a dark mission: to deny the constitutional guarantees of free speech, public assembly and free association to racially-conscious whites. This is a totalitarian agenda.

    Further, the mainstream media--using biased analysis and inflammatory reporting--is enabling this pernicious pattern of antifa violence to spread.

    Today, Americans are taught to celebrate the 'Jewish Community', the 'gay community', the 'black community', the 'Hispanic community'.

    But never the 'white community'. That is not allowed. Never--even though Euro-Americans are the heart and soul of our extraordinary, English-speaking civilization.

    Fact: white advocacy is not 'white supremacy'.

    Yet our mainstream media declares it so.

    This deception does real harm. Whites are divided. Ashamed.

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.

    White cohesion has been declared racist and uniquely evil. This may be good news for ambitious and envious blacks, gays, Hispanics and Jews. But whites are in decline.

    This worldview is partly the product of double standards. These double-standard are underhanded.

    Antifa extremism is being used by the Liberal establishment to crush if not eradicate white memory and white continuity.

    Please sign and circulate the petition to declare antifa a terrorist organization.

    https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-declare-antifa-a-terrorist-organization

    “The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

    The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone.”

    - from: ‘The Spirit Of Militarism’, by Nahum Goldmann

    Goldmann was the founder & president of the World Jewish Congress

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Hmmm. What was this "new order" of which Goldmann speaks? Can you be specific? I'm particularly impressed, because this particular book was published in German and was never translated.
    , @CCZ
    A current WJC petition:

    "Back in September 2015, Dr. Jens-Christian Wagner, the director of the foundation ‘Stiftung Niedersächsische Gedenkstätten’ and of the Bergen-Belsen Memorial, wrote a letter to Google Deutschland calling for the removal of offensive songs by the neo-Nazi band ‘Kommando Freisler’ from YouTube....No action was taken.

    As a member of the World Jewish Congress, American Section, I am calling on Google and YouTube, in the strongest possible terms, to take all necessary steps to live up to your promise and remove, once and for all, this offensive and obscene material that is fueling a dramatic rise in anti-Semitic incidents around the world.

    Google and YouTube must assume corporate responsibility and take a more proactive approach toward alleviating this serious problem. The World Jewish Congress stands ready to assist you in identifying offensive material."

  59. @geokat62

    They are behind the curtain for sure...
     

    The ADL, by its own admission, was working intensively “behind the scenes” with police and government networks in Charlottesville. Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told one Jewish media outlet in the aftermath of ‘Unite the Right’:

    We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to during and after the rally. Our Center on Extremism has been collaborating with law enforcement for weeks, providing intelligence on the various white supremacist groups who subsequently showed up in Charlottesville, and investigating specific threats in real time. We remain in close contact with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders and others and continue to provide critical research, resources and community support. All of our offices have been working around the clock to respond, inform and take action [emphasis added].

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
     

    Thanks George – I hadn’t seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It’s the same way AIPAC works Congress.

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    • Replies: @Rurik

    So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up
     
    I'm shocked, shocked !
    , @ia
    That was a very good article.

    Certainly, there are Jews who engage in activity to undermine whites. But, I keep asking myself why they became so powerful in the last 60 years or so. After all, Jews have been around for millennia and were kept at bay.

    When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights. And the oppressor group is the most successful, white men. So, the Jews jumped on the bandwagon.

    The rise of the bohemian class in the 19th century was not directed by Jews.

    p. 55 – "The naïve nineteen-year-old who tried to curry favor with high society in order to sell subscriptions to Le Livre d’or, keepsake du grand monde had become an ardent proponent of a république démocratique et sociale (democratic and socialist republic) or in shorthand, démoc-soc. The opportunistic twenty-four-year-old who had signed on as secretary to a reactionary delegate in the Chamber of Deputies was now, in his late twenties, in permanent revolt against the government, even if the government was democratically elected." – The Great Nadar: The Man Behind the Camera, by Adam Begley – it's at amazon (they won't let me link because the page is encrypted!)

    , @geokat62

    It’s the same way AIPAC works Congress.
     
    The same, indeed.
    , @Sam Shama
    [it's the same way AIPAC works Congress]

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this [other than the usual conspiracy themed speculations one can hardly be unfamiliar with when UR columns are read with any regularity]?

  60. iffen says:
    @geokat62

    They are behind the curtain for sure...
     

    The ADL, by its own admission, was working intensively “behind the scenes” with police and government networks in Charlottesville. Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told one Jewish media outlet in the aftermath of ‘Unite the Right’:

    We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to during and after the rally. Our Center on Extremism has been collaborating with law enforcement for weeks, providing intelligence on the various white supremacist groups who subsequently showed up in Charlottesville, and investigating specific threats in real time. We remain in close contact with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders and others and continue to provide critical research, resources and community support. All of our offices have been working around the clock to respond, inform and take action [emphasis added].

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
     

    I refer to the ADL site all the time. They have the money and resources to turn out the information. I just read with a grain of kosher salt. :)

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    [I imagine....that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! ]

    I think PG writes the above with tongue firmly in cheek. ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression. It is only when views devolve into explicit or potential plans to cause violence that ADL, as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws, shares information with law enforcement.

  61. Avery says:
    @iffen
    From Wiki:

    Criminally negligent manslaughter

    Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, and gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

    It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness...

    Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death.

    I am not aware of a single case where law enforcement has been held _criminally_ liable for failure to perform.

    There have been several case where cops have not responded to 911 calls, callers have been killed, and courts have held that cops have no duty to save any one’s life.

    [WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.]*

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (…..for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.

    ________________
    *
    [Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone]

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

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    • Replies: @iffen
    I am not talking about individual police officers. I am talking about the State of Virginia's obligation to provide equal protection to citizens. I am talking about the criminal negligence of the State of Virginia provoking riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.
    , @Talha

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (…..for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
  62. Jake says:

    The USA created by Mr. Lincoln – who had to slaughter hundreds of thousands of whites and make many more whites dirt poor in order to achieve his vision – is showing what it is.

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  63. iffen says:
    @Avery
    I am not aware of a single case where law enforcement has been held _criminally_ liable for failure to perform.

    There have been several case where cops have not responded to 911 calls, callers have been killed, and courts have held that cops have no duty to save any one's life.

    [WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.]*

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (.....for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.

    ________________
    *
    [Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

    I am not talking about individual police officers. I am talking about the State of Virginia’s obligation to provide equal protection to citizens. I am talking about the criminal negligence of the State of Virginia provoking riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    { I am talking ....... riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.}

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).
    Sad, but true.

    btw: no one can prove in a court of law, that cops were "pushing hostile groups....."
    They were, but impossible to prove in court, because cops have so many outs and reasonable "explanations" in a chaotic situation like that.

    The State always covers its ass, and if it can't - changes the rules.
    You, the individual, the taxpayer - will always lose.

  64. Rurik says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Thanks George - I hadn't seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment's notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It's the same way AIPAC works Congress.

    So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up

    I’m shocked, shocked !

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  65. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally

    "The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

    The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone."

    - from: 'The Spirit Of Militarism', by Nahum Goldmann

    Goldmann was the founder & president of the World Jewish Congress
     

    Hmmm. What was this “new order” of which Goldmann speaks? Can you be specific? I’m particularly impressed, because this particular book was published in German and was never translated.

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  66. ia says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Thanks George - I hadn't seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment's notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It's the same way AIPAC works Congress.

    That was a very good article.

    Certainly, there are Jews who engage in activity to undermine whites. But, I keep asking myself why they became so powerful in the last 60 years or so. After all, Jews have been around for millennia and were kept at bay.

    When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights. And the oppressor group is the most successful, white men. So, the Jews jumped on the bandwagon.

    The rise of the bohemian class in the 19th century was not directed by Jews.

    p. 55 – “The naïve nineteen-year-old who tried to curry favor with high society in order to sell subscriptions to Le Livre d’or, keepsake du grand monde had become an ardent proponent of a république démocratique et sociale (democratic and socialist republic) or in shorthand, démoc-soc. The opportunistic twenty-four-year-old who had signed on as secretary to a reactionary delegate in the Chamber of Deputies was now, in his late twenties, in permanent revolt against the government, even if the government was democratically elected.” – The Great Nadar: The Man Behind the Camera, by Adam Begley – it’s at amazon (they won’t let me link because the page is encrypted!)

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights."

    Damn Locke and Voltaire and the rest of the crew for promoting human kind's ability to use reason to solve problems and challenge the status quo. The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.
    , @Jake
    No, the rise of the 'bohemian class' was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn't Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.
    , @Carroll Price

    But, I keep asking myself why they became so powerful in the last 60 years or so.
     
    Answer: Since Jews were virtually the only group to benefit from WW 2, why would they NOT have become powerful in the last 60 years
  67. How to trigger an Antifa to publicly express their genocidal intent towards THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY?

    Answer:

    Richard Spencer:”The Alt Right encourages Native Born White American young couples to have large families again…around 10 per Native Born White American couple…”

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  68. CCZ says:
    @Wally

    "The historical mission of our world revolution is to rearrange a new culture of humanity to replace the previous social system. This conversion and re-organization of global society requires two essential steps: firstly, the destruction of the old established order, secondly, design and imposition of the new order. The first stage requires elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new order.

    The first task of our world revolution is Destruction. All social strata and social formations created by traditional society must be annihilated, individual men and women must be uprooted from their ancestral environment, torn out of their native milieus, no tradition of any type shall be permitted to remain as sacrosanct, traditional social norms must only be viewed as a disease to be eradicated, the ruling dictum of the new order is; nothing is good so everything must be criticized and abolished, everything that was, must be gone."

    - from: 'The Spirit Of Militarism', by Nahum Goldmann

    Goldmann was the founder & president of the World Jewish Congress
     

    A current WJC petition:

    “Back in September 2015, Dr. Jens-Christian Wagner, the director of the foundation ‘Stiftung Niedersächsische Gedenkstätten’ and of the Bergen-Belsen Memorial, wrote a letter to Google Deutschland calling for the removal of offensive songs by the neo-Nazi band ‘Kommando Freisler’ from YouTube….No action was taken.

    As a member of the World Jewish Congress, American Section, I am calling on Google and YouTube, in the strongest possible terms, to take all necessary steps to live up to your promise and remove, once and for all, this offensive and obscene material that is fueling a dramatic rise in anti-Semitic incidents around the world.

    Google and YouTube must assume corporate responsibility and take a more proactive approach toward alleviating this serious problem. The World Jewish Congress stands ready to assist you in identifying offensive material.”

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  69. Rurik says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    "It is important to bear in mind that there is great danger in selectively endorsing politically correct Free Speech. If either the left or right is successful and we lose our First Amendment rights through “hate speech” legislation or other forms of state censorship such as have been introduced in Europe it is safe to say that we will have lost our republic."

    I hate to break it to this writer ... but the train has already left the station, and some time ago. The left HAS been successful beyond "endorsing politically correct Free Speech". They now with little resistance enforce the ever expanding PC speech codes because they own the enforcement apparatus, i.e., the MSM, the courts, the propaganda outlets that make the shaming machinery of popular culture so efficient. They have us self-censoring. Go to any university campus and see how far free speech takes you. At your workplace just casually mention a politically incorrect fact, like black-on-white homicide statistics, and see where your career goes. Technically, yes, state censorship is not yet in place, but the left doesn't really need it that much. Plus the censorious SJWs are just one or two Supreme Court (Democrat appointed) justices in the near future, who will mop things up by upholding "hate speech" legislation that will criminalize speech that includes facts that hurt the feelings of "marginalized" people -- delayed for a bit by Trump's surprise upending of Hillary Hugo Chavez Clinton.

    The left wants more than state censorship. They see the destruction of European (white) civilization.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

    The left HAS been successful beyond “endorsing politically correct Free Speech”. They now with little resistance enforce the ever expanding PC speech codes because they own the enforcement apparatus, i.e., the MSM, the courts, the propaganda outlets that make the shaming machinery of popular culture so efficient. They have us self-censoring.

    when I read that Israel was working on biological weapons, I instinctively didn’t even think of the Palestinians. I immediately thought of those of us in the West, for whom, I’ve come to realize they harbor a psychotic malice so all-consuming, so netherworld-like that it transcends anything I can even possibly comprehend. I know that I’ll never be even capable of glimmering that kind of soul-consuming race-hate intellectually, let alone falling victim to it, because that kind of hate is as alien to me as if it were the proclivity of a Martian from outer space.

    But nevertheless I know it exists, because I’ve read of it in the Ukraine in the 30s, and realize I’ve been marinating in it my entire life. So have the Palestinians, so have the Germans. (Especially the Germans)

    So when I heard about the biological weapons program, I winced a bit.

    but then I realized they don’t need it. They’ve figured out an even more sinister weapon. They would simply use what they’ve been using on the Palestinians: ubiquitous, daily, hourly, relentless and caustic and vicious ethnic, cultural, all the way to even existential humiliation

    they would control the airwaves and the radio bands and the print, and with that they would sneer from their media bullhorns: ‘you are evil people!!!’ – so perniciously and relentlessly that eventually some would lose the will to even exist.

    And you see that. What are the white, SJW screeching about ‘white privilege!’ unless they’re self-loathing zombies who’ve been conditioned to their (and their fellow whites) own intractable and congenital wickedness?

    so I realized that they didn’t need biological weapons per se, they’d just use humiliation and vilification and Hollywood and Madison Ave. relentless degradation as a weapon. The biological part would kick in when the females were so thoroughly racially self-loathing and offended by the startling evil of their male counterparts.. that they’d do everything in their power to avoid having an evil spawn.

    And you see this with all the white Hollywood starlets running around with kaleidoscopic broods

    it’s the ultimate virtue signaling

    and it affects women from every niche and corner of the Western world. That is the biological weapon they have in mind, and are using to enormous success. When eventually the turning point happens, and we deplorables are a national voting minority, then things will start to happen very quickly indeed.

    BTW, I followed your link, and read your article, and I must say my hat is off to you sir!

    I could not have said it better, and wow, have you seen them for what they are.

    kudos and cheers

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  70. Talha says:
    @Avery
    I am not aware of a single case where law enforcement has been held _criminally_ liable for failure to perform.

    There have been several case where cops have not responded to 911 calls, callers have been killed, and courts have held that cops have no duty to save any one's life.

    [WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.]*

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (.....for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.

    ________________
    *
    [Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html

    US residents have an _obligation_ to pay taxes to fund police (…..for protection), but police are not obligated to provide protection to you, the taxpayer.

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  71. @Chris Mallory

    Another comment on a different site claims that officers were not legally obliged to intervene. This seems odd to me. If this is the case, it may not be a legal dereliction of duty but it certainly seems to be a moral dereliction of duty.
     
    Legally, no the cops do not have any requirement to protect anyone from harm. There have been several SCOTUS decisions, along with state court decisions, that have said this.

    Thanks for clarifying.

    Any reasonable person would probably agree that a police officer directly witnessing a violent crime in progress and possessing the means to intervene should do so to protect the victims.

    But I guess my mistake is assuming that the law is reasonable. It would nonetheless be interesting to see this taken to the courts. It seems odd that a full-scale riot can develop due to a poor policing decision and no-one is accountable at any level.

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  72. ia says:
    @Stephen Paul Foster
    "It is important to bear in mind that there is great danger in selectively endorsing politically correct Free Speech. If either the left or right is successful and we lose our First Amendment rights through “hate speech” legislation or other forms of state censorship such as have been introduced in Europe it is safe to say that we will have lost our republic."

    I hate to break it to this writer ... but the train has already left the station, and some time ago. The left HAS been successful beyond "endorsing politically correct Free Speech". They now with little resistance enforce the ever expanding PC speech codes because they own the enforcement apparatus, i.e., the MSM, the courts, the propaganda outlets that make the shaming machinery of popular culture so efficient. They have us self-censoring. Go to any university campus and see how far free speech takes you. At your workplace just casually mention a politically incorrect fact, like black-on-white homicide statistics, and see where your career goes. Technically, yes, state censorship is not yet in place, but the left doesn't really need it that much. Plus the censorious SJWs are just one or two Supreme Court (Democrat appointed) justices in the near future, who will mop things up by upholding "hate speech" legislation that will criminalize speech that includes facts that hurt the feelings of "marginalized" people -- delayed for a bit by Trump's surprise upending of Hillary Hugo Chavez Clinton.

    The left wants more than state censorship. They see the destruction of European (white) civilization.

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-exterminationist-left-happy-trails.html

    That’s an interesting article, but I don’t think the anti-whites are idealogical at all. They are merely responding to the culture of human rights enshrined in the French and American revolutions. The Democrats are simply being practical in their quest for power. They more eagerly serve the human rights god’s demands on believers. The god, it seems, is a black hermaphrodite.

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  73. Avery says:
    @iffen
    I am not talking about individual police officers. I am talking about the State of Virginia's obligation to provide equal protection to citizens. I am talking about the criminal negligence of the State of Virginia provoking riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.

    { I am talking ……. riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.}

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).
    Sad, but true.

    btw: no one can prove in a court of law, that cops were “pushing hostile groups…..”
    They were, but impossible to prove in court, because cops have so many outs and reasonable “explanations” in a chaotic situation like that.

    The State always covers its ass, and if it can’t – changes the rules.
    You, the individual, the taxpayer – will always lose.

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    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @CalDre

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).

     
    It's worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens' constitutional rights - a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.

    I actually wish someone would sue the VA governor and Charlottesville mayor.
  74. hyperbola says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Sir Campbell Stuart, K.B.E., 'The Secrets of Crewe House, The Story of a Famous Campaign', London, 1920

    The book is about how British WWI propaganda was organised and conducted, and what the war aims were.
    Wilson's Eighteen Points were carefully coordinated with Northcliffe's policies, Nothcliffe led Crewe House.
    Pan Germanism of course could not exist without a German, or pro German, mentality in the Habsburg empire.
    WWI GB propaganda was that even the Ottomans were pro German.

    WWI had as purpose the breaking up of three empires, the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman.
    Hitler resurrected the German empire, what remained of the Otoman empire was far more than foreseen by the Treaty of Sèvres of 1921, just the objective of breaking up the Habsburg empire was realised.
    Atatürk is the man who maybe most changed world history, intended world history.

    The three mentioned empires were all along the Berlin Baghdad railway, nowhere I ever saw the objective of WWI so brilliantly explained as in a pamphlet made and distributed by Crewe House, the pamphlet had a map of the Berlin Baghdad railway.

    Oil and the origins of the
    ‘War to make the world safe for Democracy’

    http://www.oilgeopolitics.net/History/Oil_and_the_Origins_of_World_W/oil_and_the_origins_of_world_w.HTM

    At first almost unnoticed after 1850, then with significant intensity after the onset of the Great Depression of 1873 in Britain, the sun began to set on the British Empire. By the end of the 19th Century, though the City of London remained undisputed financier of the world, British industrial excellence was in terminal decline. …..
    …. The conversion of the British Navy under Churchill to oil from coal meant a high risk strategy as England had abundant coal but no then-known oil. It secured a major concession from the Shah of Persia in the early 1900’s. The Baghdad rail link was increasingly seen in London as a threat to precisely this oil security. The British response to the growing German disruption of the European balance of power after the 1890’s was to carefully craft a series of public and secret alliances with France and with Russia—former rivals—to encircle Germany. As well, she deployed a series of less public intrigues to disrupt the Balkans and encourage a revolt against the Ottoman Sultan via the Young Turks that severely weakened the prospects for the German Drang nach Osten. The dynamic of the rise of German assertiveness, including in addition to the Baghdad rail, the decision in 1900 to build a modern navy over two decades that could rival England’s, set the stage for the outbreak of a war in August 1914 whose real significance was a colossal and tragic struggle for who would succeed the ebbing power of the British Empire. The resolution of that epic struggle was to take a second world war and another quarter century before the victor was undeniably established. The role of oil in the events leading to war in 1914 is too little appreciated. When the historical process behind the war is examined from this light a quite different picture emerges. The British Empire in the decades following 1873 and the American Century hegemony in the decades following approximately 1973 have more in common than is generally appreciated….

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    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
    GB now is a third rate country.
    Berlin is the capital of continental Europe.
    GB lost the 1914 1945 war, already in 1956, when Eisenhower ended the GB Israel France conspiracy against Egypt.
    The USA now is in the same situation of GB in 1900, no longer capable of defending the world wide empire.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Thank you for that link and quote. A thought about the 1873 reference to GB's relative decline. What do you think of the importance of the US also having gone into a long economic depression at about the same time? Did that affect GB greatly but not Germany? Also what might have been the importance of differential demographics? Didn't Protestant British (starting with the upper middle class) start limiting their families from about that date? By contrast even Hitler still had enough young Germans to think Lebensraum was necessary.
  75. Ximenes says:
    @lavoisier
    Everything you are saying is true. But the real puzzle here is that the people who most despise Western Civilization and the white people who created that civilization are other white people.

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people. These braindead ethnomasochists are the problem, and I do not believe it is simply brainwashing that has led them to act in such a destructive way towards their own civilization and people.

    Sure, the Jewish control of the media and the culture and their frequent hostility to the goyim has encouraged this destructive impulse, but these people are responsible for their own thoughts and actions.

    The modern white liberal has become a genuine threat to our freedoms, our way of life, and our survival as a civilization.

    Their ethnomasochism has to be defeated if Western Civilization has any hope to survive.

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people.

    Has it occurred to you that most of the “white people” wearing masks and carrying weapons at antifa campaigns may be Jews?

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    • Replies: @lavoisier
    No.

    Some may be, but the majority are your generic braindead easily manipulated white liberal.

    , @Skeptikal
    Yep, I reckon so. That thought occurred to me, too.
  76. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    From Wiki:

    Criminally negligent manslaughter

    Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, and gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.

    It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness...

    Criminally negligent manslaughter occurs where there is an omission to act when there is a duty to do so, or a failure to perform a duty owed, which leads to a death.

    The Charlottsville administration appears rather incompetent in allowing both Antifa and the various White Supremacists to appear in the public square concurrently. I do agree McAuliffe and Co. need to be investigated, principally to discover if their motives were beyond that which can be explained by incompetence.

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    I don't think the Antifa protesters were "allowed" in the square.
    They had no permit.
    They weren't "allowed" to be anywhere around there and should have been made to disperse and go somewhere else, with force if necessary (I mean to be made to go somewhere else to hold their protest).
    The police do this all the time.
    "Cage" protesters to avoid problems they foresee.
    So, WFT, C'ville Police???

    McAuliffe definitely had a hand in this "standing down."

  77. hyperbola says:
    @anonymous
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow

    Philip David Zelikow born September 21, 1954) is an American attorney, diplomat, academic and author. He has worked as the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, and Counselor of the United States Department of State. He is the White Burkett Miller Professor of History at the University of Virginia and was American Academy in Berlin Axel Springer Fellow, in the fall of 2009.
     

    Axel Springer Chef : “Ich bin ein Zionist”

    The Israel Lobby in Germany | Freemasonry – Scribd

    https://es.scribd.com/document/236970539/The-Israel-Lobby-in-Germany

    The ProSieben / Sat1 Group, which combines the German TV station ProSieben, Sat.1, Kabel eins, N24, 9Live and which are especially designed for women transmitter Sixx under one roof, is in possession of the Jew Haim Saban. The Axel Springer Foundation, which was part of the Axel Springer AG conducted from 1981 to 2010 by the Jew Ernst Cramer. After Cramer’s death Friede Springer himself took over as CEO. Friede Springer is a Zionist and got 2000 even the Leo Baeck Prize, the highest award of the Central Council of Jews in Germany. CEO of Axel Springer AG is the Zionist Dopfner Matthias, who has held a position at the Aspen Institute Berlin at the same time. The Aspen Institute is an American lobby, which was founded after WW2 propaganda purposes. The Institute is managed by Trustees, the President and CEO is the Jew Walter Isaacson

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  78. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    I refer to the ADL site all the time. They have the money and resources to turn out the information. I just read with a grain of kosher salt. :)

    [I imagine....that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! ]

    I think PG writes the above with tongue firmly in cheek. ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression. It is only when views devolve into explicit or potential plans to cause violence that ADL, as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws, shares information with law enforcement.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws

    Do you mean ones like the $PLC?
    , @MarkinLA
    Maybe you forgot those stories during the Obama administration of agencies like the FBI using garbage from the SPLC as part of their training. I imagine they also use garbage from the ADL. When that nonsense becomes part of their training what do you think that does for their investigations?

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/27/no-the-fbi-hasnt-ditched-the-southern-poverty-l/198645

    https://www.adl.org/what-we-do/combat-hate/law-enforcement-partnerships
    , @RobinG
    "ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression."

    Surely you jest. You think the ADL isn't working to criminalize BDS and other criticism of Israel? Is ADL not involved in censoring SJP on campuses? Tentacles, man. Tentacles. The US 1st Amend. tops the Israel-firsters' hit list.
  79. @Sbaker
    This was forwarded to me by the former police commissioner of Honolulu. Sbaker


    WE ARE BEING LIED TO AND WILL LOSE OUR COUNTRY IF THIS doesn't STOP!

    _"STAND DOWN"_ (Video)

    Only one side had permits .

    Charlottesville was a set up ...
    http://truthuncensored.net/charlottesville-police-come-forward-told-stand-ignite-race-war-video/
    [1]

    CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE COME FORWARD: _WE WERE TOLD TO “STAND
    DOWN”_ TO IGNITE RACE WAR (VIDEO)

    Lauren Richardson [2]

    _“WE [CHARLOTESVILLE POLICE] WERE ORDERED TO BRING THE RIVAL GROUPS
    TOGETHER – AND THEN…”_

    A CHARLOTTESVILLE POLICE OFFICER HAS COME FORWARD TO EXPRESS HIS
    OUTRAGE AT BEING TOLD TO “STAND DOWN” BY THE CITY MAYOR DURING
    VIOLENT CLASHES BETWEEN PROTESTERS. The officer also claims the
    protests, which pitched “white supremacists” against members of
    Antifa, were “set up” to allow for the groups to ignite into
    exactly what happened.

    “_We [Charlotesville police] were ordered [3]to bring the rival
    groups together. As soon as they were in contact with each other, we
    were told TO STAND DOWN. It was outrageous. We weren’t allowed to
    arrest anyone without asking the mayor first. We weren’t even
    allowed to stop the driver as he sped away._“

    “_The event was being set up as far back as at least May and it
    went like clockwork_.”

    At no point is the car that plowed into the crowd of protesters
    perused by police – there is not a police car in sight leading into
    the area, or out.

    NEW VIDEO: Car That Plowed Into Charlottesville Crowd Spotted Leaving
    the Scene

    — Breaking911 (@Breaking911) 2:00 PM - Aug 14, 2017 [4]

    Michael Signer, the mayor of Charlottesville, ordered police to stand
    down during the most chaotic and destructive period of the protests
    – despite police protests against the orders.

    “_WE WANTED TO DO OUR JOB AND KEEP THE PEACE. BUT THESE
    MOTHER******S IN CHARGE REALLY WANT TO DESTROY AMERICA_.”

    I do not know that if I should believe this.

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  80. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Ah, finally, the mask comes off PG’s mug! He is revealed for the white supremacist he is.

    His opposition to a certain shitty nation, makes even more sense now.

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    • LOL: Talha
    • Replies: @iffen
    finally, the mask comes off

    The mask? The mask? LOL

    Seriously, just because one worries about what dem Jews are up to doesn't make one a white supremacist.

    Anyway, I'm not sure he's a bona fide anti-Semite. I think he might be sincerely worried about what some of dem Jews are up to.

    I am not sure he has expressed opposition to the existence of Israel, just its policy vis-a-vis the US and the behavior of some Jews and others (here's looking at you Evangelicals, including philosophical Evangelicals like me).

    , @Z-man
    You right about that 'certain nation' being shitty!
  81. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama
    [I imagine....that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! ]

    I think PG writes the above with tongue firmly in cheek. ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression. It is only when views devolve into explicit or potential plans to cause violence that ADL, as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws, shares information with law enforcement.

    as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws

    Do you mean ones like the $PLC?

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    No I certainly don't mean the SPLC, an organisation set up to destroy the history and culture of the South. I despise them.
  82. Wade says:
    @anonymous
    Another excellent essay. Mr. Giraldi, I would appreciate knowing what you think about one particular aspect of the stagecraft.

    Having watched a few (not all, especially as some have been squelched) of the videos assembled under the parallel Cleburne article, my impression is that these so-called Uniters of The Right may have selected the forum because they, like the Establishment generally, desired a violent altercation.

    The Friday night torchlight parade as filmed by Vice seems almost scripted, provocative “reality TV” to stoke fear and loathing among the American manipullati. Men who look like Haven Monohan’s frat brothers chanting “Blood And Soil” (really?!), in perfect formation behind a drum major who looks like a Viking Hell’s Angel, all left undisturbed by observers. Are these even the same people sent packing on Saturday from the park and down the street to be abused by hundreds of counter-protestors, as seen in the Goldy video?

    Thank you.

    It was almost certainly scripted. It resembles the Svoboda marches in Ukraine down to the Tiki torches, “Blood and Soil” chants and style of flags that the US to overthrow the president of Ukraine. Watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L58T2dl997A

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  83. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    But wasn't Kosovo separated from Setbia to appease the nationalim of the Albanian/Kosovan nationalists?

    During Tito’s time ethnic Albanians were allowed to settle into Kosovo – ancient Serbia’s homeland. The Serbs just wanted to hold onto what was always theirs. The US with it’s idiotic nonsense about self-determination decided that anybody could declare themselves independent if they had the votes (of course that doesn’t apply to Crimea).

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  84. Corvinus says:

    “As far as I can determine, almost no one knows much about the specific agendas of the various parties that were involved in last week’s fracas in Charlottesville.”

    Yes, we do know about the agendas of the sides involved. You have a group on the hard right, some of whom wore nice clothes and carried tiki torches in an effort to look respectable. Others, however, were armed and ready for a fight. Their collective intention was to excite the opposition by going on the offensive with Nazi and Confederate gear in tow and rhetoric too boot. You have another group on the hard left, who likewise desire a battle royale and who appear to be on the moral high ground by denouncing certain ideas they deem to be other than American. Both groups then cried foul when the police were brought in to control the scene and when they seemingly refused or avoided arresting their opponents–when in reality they took down those individuals regardless of side who clearly broke the law.

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    " Both groups then cried foul when the police were brought in to control the scene and when they seemingly refused or avoided arresting their opponents–when in reality they took down those individuals regardless of side who clearly broke the law."

    You get this info where?
    This is not supported by the accounts that I have seen/read.
  85. MarkinLA says:
    @Sam Shama
    [I imagine....that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! ]

    I think PG writes the above with tongue firmly in cheek. ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression. It is only when views devolve into explicit or potential plans to cause violence that ADL, as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws, shares information with law enforcement.

    Maybe you forgot those stories during the Obama administration of agencies like the FBI using garbage from the SPLC as part of their training. I imagine they also use garbage from the ADL. When that nonsense becomes part of their training what do you think that does for their investigations?

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/27/no-the-fbi-hasnt-ditched-the-southern-poverty-l/198645

    https://www.adl.org/what-we-do/combat-hate/law-enforcement-partnerships

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  86. Corvinus says:
    @ia
    That was a very good article.

    Certainly, there are Jews who engage in activity to undermine whites. But, I keep asking myself why they became so powerful in the last 60 years or so. After all, Jews have been around for millennia and were kept at bay.

    When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights. And the oppressor group is the most successful, white men. So, the Jews jumped on the bandwagon.

    The rise of the bohemian class in the 19th century was not directed by Jews.

    p. 55 – "The naïve nineteen-year-old who tried to curry favor with high society in order to sell subscriptions to Le Livre d’or, keepsake du grand monde had become an ardent proponent of a république démocratique et sociale (democratic and socialist republic) or in shorthand, démoc-soc. The opportunistic twenty-four-year-old who had signed on as secretary to a reactionary delegate in the Chamber of Deputies was now, in his late twenties, in permanent revolt against the government, even if the government was democratically elected." – The Great Nadar: The Man Behind the Camera, by Adam Begley – it's at amazon (they won't let me link because the page is encrypted!)

    “When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights.”

    Damn Locke and Voltaire and the rest of the crew for promoting human kind’s ability to use reason to solve problems and challenge the status quo. The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.

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    • Replies: @ia
    White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad.
    , @ia

    The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.
     
    Blacks have little talent, that's the problem.
    , @Not Bob
    Haven't read Locke.

    Voltaire it seems, like Hillary Clinton, had different "public and private" positions. In his private writings, Enlightenment was possible only for his wealthy white male friends. Black men were referred to as "les animaux negres", able to talk but barely able to think. Women (and peasants) did not fare much better in his opinion. Never mind Jews.

    In his basically brown-nosing letters to the nobilty of Europe, he displayed his contempt for the deplorables, and talked about the necessity of lying to create the public persona of the Great Humanist, epecially the use of the Big Lie, repeated often.

    This attitude was not exclusive to Voltaire. In the earliest editions of L' Encyclopedie the articles about Humanism, Diderot, et al, included this kind of thing. For example, an article on Africa from that period (1750's) describes the natives as having little in the way of thoughts, and Benin and Angola as a good sources for gold, Blacks, and other commodities.

    If you read French, I refer you to Xavier Martin's "Naissance du sous-homme au coeur des Lumieres". The "high ideals" were promoted by cynical pretenders, mostly for their own financial and public benefit. If Voltaire's private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.

    I understand that the ideals themselves can be separated from the writers, and am not commenting on the application, benefits, demerits or possible "cherry picking" of those ideals. But it can be shown that the "originators" of these ideals did not, in fact, believe they should or could be applied to everyone. They were just like "public thinkers" of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts.
  87. @geokat62

    They are behind the curtain for sure...
     

    The ADL, by its own admission, was working intensively “behind the scenes” with police and government networks in Charlottesville. Anita Gray, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League, told one Jewish media outlet in the aftermath of ‘Unite the Right’:

    We have been working on the ground and behind the scenes leading up to during and after the rally. Our Center on Extremism has been collaborating with law enforcement for weeks, providing intelligence on the various white supremacist groups who subsequently showed up in Charlottesville, and investigating specific threats in real time. We remain in close contact with law enforcement, elected officials, community leaders and others and continue to provide critical research, resources and community support. All of our offices have been working around the clock to respond, inform and take action [emphasis added].

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net
     

    Geokat62,

    Thanks for providing this valuable information.

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  88. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Wizo


    It is the Antifa position...just google photos of the Antifa holding signs at the Charlottesville and Boston Protests...The Antifa don't hide their genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class....


    When Alt Right Rock Star Richard Spencer appeared on 20/20 this past Friday Night he should have said this to Antifa Lucy McCauley:"the Antifa and the Democratic Party have open violent genocidal intent towards The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority....The Alt Right is the frontline resistance to this..."

    “The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority”

    That oft-repeated description of your kind is cute.

    I have another oft-repeated one, for the likes of you;

    The Pagan Polytheist Human Worshipping Spiritual Ciphers.

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  89. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @John Jeremiah Smith

    The Empire is inherently incapable of being embarrassed about anything.
     
    I have cast about for several months, looking for an encompassing term to include "Deep State", "Alt-Left", "neocons", and of course the ubiquitous generic, "democrat".

    I rather like your coinage of "The Empire", and will begin using it frequently.

    Check's in the mail. ;-)

    That should be, “The Evil Empire.”

    You’re welcome, and don’t forget to mail that cheque, ok.

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    • Replies: @John Jeremiah Smith

    That should be, “The Evil Empire.”
     
    IMO, all empire is ethically ambivalent, so ... denied!

    Cost of denial deducted from your check. You owe me 29 cents.
  90. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Ximenes

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people.
     
    Has it occurred to you that most of the "white people" wearing masks and carrying weapons at antifa campaigns may be Jews?

    No.

    Some may be, but the majority are your generic braindead easily manipulated white liberal.

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  91. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws

    Do you mean ones like the $PLC?

    No I certainly don’t mean the SPLC, an organisation set up to destroy the history and culture of the South. I despise them.

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  92. CalDre says:
    @JackOH
    Philip, thanks. My local newspaper, an intelligent and literate independent, came out against neo-Nazis today. I suspect the editor was pressured into it, because the phenomenon of neo-Nazism as a meaningful political movement doesn't exist in my area. Neo-Nazism doesn't exist as a meaningful political phenomenon in the United States.

    Chrissake--I'm venting here--does anyone else here see an obvious parallel between the actual historical Nazis opportunistically grasping for power after the Reichstag fire, and the Left grasping at opportunities to efface the memory of prominent Southerners using the trivial Charlottesville fracas as a pretext? What's that old saw: he who accuses, excuses. The real Nazis seem to me the other guys--the Left.

    The real Nazis seem to me the other guys–the Left.

    It’s telling that I keep seeing this – referring to the violent Globalists as “Nazis”. No, they are Bolsheviks. But it goes to show how Nazis, who were far less destructive than Bolsheviks, have been demonized and the Bolsheviks whitewashed. By our Star of David MSM.

    The real issue is that the “neo-Nazis” are a small, splintered, powerless group, while the neo-Bolsheviks are on the rise and have a firm grip on most organs of power.

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    • Replies: @JackOH
    I should have been more clear that I meant something like "Nazi-like" in the Left's unscrupulously taking the Charlottesville incident and grossly magnifying it to push its agenda. Agree that both the historical Bolsheviks and Nazis were "by-whatever-means-necessary" slobs.

    BTW-Why haven't our mainstream media folks bothered to ask: "What happens, or what's supposed to happen, after all those statues come down?" This is looking like the gratuitous destruction of civic memory to me, and I've yet to hear a media bobblehead mention that.
  93. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    White children are increasingly isolated and estranged from their own roots and community. Political self-loathing and downward mobility have become common among whites.
     
    there is an epidemic of white men committing suicide

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ywsSInVMF8

    What, really?!

    You mean there is still hope that this wretched world can avoid nuclear annihilation?

    Hmm…

    Nah, who are you kidding.

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    • Replies: @Rurik
    it isn't white men who're diving the world to the brink my friend

    http://i1.wp.com/theralphretort.com/wp-content/uploads/fat-bill.jpg

    unless you consider this corpulent bag of pus a white man

    I don't

    Putin and Trump are white men and they're doing all they can to stop the Eternal WarsⓊ that the ((neocons)) are foisting upon the world's people
  94. ia says:
    @Corvinus
    "When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights."

    Damn Locke and Voltaire and the rest of the crew for promoting human kind's ability to use reason to solve problems and challenge the status quo. The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.

    White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad."

    So God didn't make His people in His image? You know, the ability to use reason and improve society And in what ways did the Enlightenment thinkers demonstrate excessive pride? Do you even fathom their contribution to the evolvement of humankind?

    "Blacks have little talent, that’s the problem."

    Actually, the problem is your anti-human, anti-Christian attitude toward your fellow person.

  95. geokat62 says:

    ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression.

    Do you think the ADL was on board with AIPAC’s Israel Anti-Boycott Act?

    Punishment for violating IABA:

    Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    It's not within the purview or charter of ADL to overtly insert itself in Congress' functions. The IABA, an Act of Congress, amends the EXIM Bank Act of 1975 and the Export Administration Act of 1979.
  96. geokat62 says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Thanks George - I hadn't seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment's notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It's the same way AIPAC works Congress.

    It’s the same way AIPAC works Congress.

    The same, indeed.

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  97. ia says:
    @Corvinus
    "When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights."

    Damn Locke and Voltaire and the rest of the crew for promoting human kind's ability to use reason to solve problems and challenge the status quo. The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.

    The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.

    Blacks have little talent, that’s the problem.

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  98. CalDre says:
    @Avery
    { I am talking ....... riot by pushing hostile groups into physical contact with each other.}

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).
    Sad, but true.

    btw: no one can prove in a court of law, that cops were "pushing hostile groups....."
    They were, but impossible to prove in court, because cops have so many outs and reasonable "explanations" in a chaotic situation like that.

    The State always covers its ass, and if it can't - changes the rules.
    You, the individual, the taxpayer - will always lose.

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).

    It’s worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens’ constitutional rights – a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.

    I actually wish someone would sue the VA governor and Charlottesville mayor.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {It’s worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens’ constitutional rights – a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.}

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.
  99. Rurik says:
    @anonymous
    What, really?!

    You mean there is still hope that this wretched world can avoid nuclear annihilation?

    Hmm...

    Nah, who are you kidding.

    it isn’t white men who’re diving the world to the brink my friend

    unless you consider this corpulent bag of pus a white man

    I don’t

    Putin and Trump are white men and they’re doing all they can to stop the Eternal WarsⓊ that the ((neocons)) are foisting upon the world’s people

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    • Replies: @Jake
    These endless wars are the contemporary conflicts of the British Empire, The US took over for the dying Empire, so that the WASP worldview would control the globe. So, yes, it is white men who are responsible.

    WASPs made Jews their junior partners in first running roughshod over the vast majority of British isles natives and then of the world. It is only in recent decades that Jews have replaced WASPs as the more important partner in the Anglo-Zionist empire.
  100. @jack ryan
    "Kosovo was liberated in order that the west, not Serbia, could exploit the most mineral rich area of Europe."

    I respond:

    What ridiculous nonsense. Everything isn't about money. The Arab vs Israeli conflict isn't all about money - it's a racial, tribal thing.

    Why do you think Madeleine Albright and all the Zionists, Neo Conservatives went ape sh** about Nationalist Serbs trying to retake their sacred province of Kosovo? You think it was about mineral reserves. You're really either really stupid or just another liar.

    Madeleine Albright and the Zionists, Neo Conservatives were frankly just honest for a short while stating that no European country could be homogenous, nationalist. It makes no difference that the Serbs fought with the Russians/Soviets against Nationalist Germany in both World Wars or professed support for Israel.

    The tribe, neo Conservatives in the US and in the Diaspora will vigorously oppose any European oriented people who attempt nationalist immigration, military policies - everybody's a NAZI to them.

    Jeees.

    My whole life I admired mind readers.
    Lacking such capability I must use my brains to find motives.
    Kosovo is the most mineral rich area of Europe.
    The zionist Palestinian conflict is about land, ‘back to Palestine’, after the E European pogroms.
    The Israel Arab conflict is the result of jews stealing land, ethnically cleansing Palestine.
    As Israel refuses any sensible solution of the Palestinian question Isrel is hated by most Muslims, Israel therefore must be one of the most powerful military powers in the world, and must prevent that neighbouring states become a military threat.

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  101. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression.
     
    Do you think the ADL was on board with AIPAC's Israel Anti-Boycott Act?

    Punishment for violating IABA:

    Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.

    It’s not within the purview or charter of ADL to overtly insert itself in Congress’ functions. The IABA, an Act of Congress, amends the EXIM Bank Act of 1975 and the Export Administration Act of 1979.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    It’s not within the purview or charter of ADL to overtly insert itself in Congress’ functions.

    What has that got to do with anything? Everything depends on the leadership of the ADL and what they want to do at any given moment.
  102. schrub says:

    I just realized that I might have seen a rather revealing late night video that suddenly appeared on my computer screen while browsing around hours a fews hours after after the Charlotteville riot that apparently very few others have seen. It might have been part of a TV news story or it might have been somebody’s video .I forget. Now I can’t seem to find it again.

    It shows a young, thin, masked Antifa guy (girl?) in the midst of this altercation getting in the face of a much bigger and much tougher looking guy in the opposition crowd. (All these Antifa members are masked and dressed identically with a red piece of clothing (shirt?) to identify themselves to one another.

    Suddenly, a big and brawny guy suddenly runs out of the far background and puts his arms around the mid section of the Antifa member in danger. He then lifts the Antifa member up bodily and carries him/her out of the crowd and deposits him/her about fifty or one hundred feet away away, safely out of danger. He then releases the Antifa member and then seems to start berating the much smaller Antifa member for apparently doing something wrong and against orders.

    Then I noticed the printing on the back of this bigger fellow’s yellow tee shirt. It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star..

    It suddenly occurs to me that he is the one overseeing this one particular Antifa group from the sidelines. He is apparently also there to jump in and defend the Antifa group members if things get out of hand.

    I thought the JDL had been put on the terrorist watch list years ago and put out of business ago after its then leader, Irv Rubin, was convicted and imprisoned for attempting to bomb the office of Congressman Darrel Issa.

    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL’s very visible presence at this rally?

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    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL’s very visible presence at this rally?
     
    I'm shocked, shocked
    , @RobinG
    JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE was in ANTIFA in CHARLOTTESVILLE

    Thanks, schrub. Let's look out for the video you describe in comment #105.
    , @Corvinus
    "It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star."

    Find the video and share it with us. Now, assuming it to be true....BOO. A Jew was at a rally. OMG, what is the world going to come to! Your fixation is duly noted.
  103. @hyperbola
    Oil and the origins of the
    ‘War to make the world safe for Democracy’
    http://www.oilgeopolitics.net/History/Oil_and_the_Origins_of_World_W/oil_and_the_origins_of_world_w.HTM

    At first almost unnoticed after 1850, then with significant intensity after the onset of the Great Depression of 1873 in Britain, the sun began to set on the British Empire. By the end of the 19th Century, though the City of London remained undisputed financier of the world, British industrial excellence was in terminal decline. .....
    .... The conversion of the British Navy under Churchill to oil from coal meant a high risk strategy as England had abundant coal but no then-known oil. It secured a major concession from the Shah of Persia in the early 1900’s. The Baghdad rail link was increasingly seen in London as a threat to precisely this oil security. The British response to the growing German disruption of the European balance of power after the 1890’s was to carefully craft a series of public and secret alliances with France and with Russia—former rivals—to encircle Germany. As well, she deployed a series of less public intrigues to disrupt the Balkans and encourage a revolt against the Ottoman Sultan via the Young Turks that severely weakened the prospects for the German Drang nach Osten. The dynamic of the rise of German assertiveness, including in addition to the Baghdad rail, the decision in 1900 to build a modern navy over two decades that could rival England’s, set the stage for the outbreak of a war in August 1914 whose real significance was a colossal and tragic struggle for who would succeed the ebbing power of the British Empire. The resolution of that epic struggle was to take a second world war and another quarter century before the victor was undeniably established. The role of oil in the events leading to war in 1914 is too little appreciated. When the historical process behind the war is examined from this light a quite different picture emerges. The British Empire in the decades following 1873 and the American Century hegemony in the decades following approximately 1973 have more in common than is generally appreciated....

    GB now is a third rate country.
    Berlin is the capital of continental Europe.
    GB lost the 1914 1945 war, already in 1956, when Eisenhower ended the GB Israel France conspiracy against Egypt.
    The USA now is in the same situation of GB in 1900, no longer capable of defending the world wide empire.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    I should acknowledge occasional unambiguous agreement, so I do.
  104. iffen says:
    @anonymous
    Ah, finally, the mask comes off PG's mug! He is revealed for the white supremacist he is.

    His opposition to a certain shitty nation, makes even more sense now.

    finally, the mask comes off

    The mask? The mask? LOL

    Seriously, just because one worries about what dem Jews are up to doesn’t make one a white supremacist.

    Anyway, I’m not sure he’s a bona fide anti-Semite. I think he might be sincerely worried about what some of dem Jews are up to.

    I am not sure he has expressed opposition to the existence of Israel, just its policy vis-a-vis the US and the behavior of some Jews and others (here’s looking at you Evangelicals, including philosophical Evangelicals like me).

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism? Zion Über Alles!!
  105. Sam Shama says:
    @Philip Giraldi
    Thanks George - I hadn't seen the citation. So it would seem that they were doing their best to criminalize the gathering even before anyone showed up. I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment's notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! It's the same way AIPAC works Congress.

    [it's the same way AIPAC works Congress]

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this [other than the usual conspiracy themed speculations one can hardly be unfamiliar with when UR columns are read with any regularity]?

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    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    Ycch! From Scranton, I can smell another one of Sam the Sham's regular emmissions of pure (non-innuendo) sulfur.

    The E.P.A. should list hasbara indoctrination as hazardous to human mental health.

    Selah.
    , @Rurik

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen?
     
    http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/images/joomgallery/originals/cool_705/age_old_questions_answered_by_the_internet_1081/does-a-bear-crap-in-the-woods_20150603_1562667678.jpg
    , @Wizard of Oz
    I doubt if he's referring to regular use of the equivalent of criminal blackmail but the standard donor lobbyists' actual or veiled threat to support an opponent in the primaries or election unless various lines are toed would surely be likely to be supported by indications that certain things were known - even without a good capitalist bonus system for Congressional behaviour outcomes.
  106. JackOH says:
    @CalDre

    The real Nazis seem to me the other guys–the Left.
     
    It's telling that I keep seeing this - referring to the violent Globalists as "Nazis". No, they are Bolsheviks. But it goes to show how Nazis, who were far less destructive than Bolsheviks, have been demonized and the Bolsheviks whitewashed. By our Star of David MSM.

    The real issue is that the "neo-Nazis" are a small, splintered, powerless group, while the neo-Bolsheviks are on the rise and have a firm grip on most organs of power.

    I should have been more clear that I meant something like “Nazi-like” in the Left’s unscrupulously taking the Charlottesville incident and grossly magnifying it to push its agenda. Agree that both the historical Bolsheviks and Nazis were “by-whatever-means-necessary” slobs.

    BTW-Why haven’t our mainstream media folks bothered to ask: “What happens, or what’s supposed to happen, after all those statues come down?” This is looking like the gratuitous destruction of civic memory to me, and I’ve yet to hear a media bobblehead mention that.

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  107. Avery says:
    @CalDre

    Sovereign Immunity.

    Laws for Thee, but not for Me (the Sovereign).

     
    It's worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens' constitutional rights - a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.

    I actually wish someone would sue the VA governor and Charlottesville mayor.

    {It’s worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens’ constitutional rights – a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.}

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    There's always a first time. I know one Black retired Police Major who has stated publicly that the police (all branches) behaved improperly in C'ville. Reputedly, at least one cop has stated they were ordered to stand down, and were not happy about it. Anyone who can impartially separate 1st amend. rights from the emotional claptrap can see this. Unite the Right needs to get a good lawyer.
    , @CalDre
    One example? There are literally tens of thousands of "civil rights" cases that have been brought under Section 1983. Here are Supreme Court cases decided under that statute - almost 2,000 cases and the Supreme Court hears less than 1% of appeals (never mind cases that settle before or after trial court judgment or appellate review). Most of these "settlements" you hear about regarding police brutality are brought under 42 USC 1983. Here is a brief primer.

    Also lots of First Amendment cases have been brought under 1983 - not just free speech but those cases that object to prayer in school or a cross on a Christmas tree. This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.
  108. eah says:

    Charlottesville has a liberal Democratic mayor named Mike Signer

    He’s also a Jew — if you don’t think that’s relevant, talk to Andrew Joyce or Kevin MacDonald.

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    • Replies: @eah
    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/899742803185598464
  109. MarkinLA says:
    @Sam Shama
    It's not within the purview or charter of ADL to overtly insert itself in Congress' functions. The IABA, an Act of Congress, amends the EXIM Bank Act of 1975 and the Export Administration Act of 1979.

    It’s not within the purview or charter of ADL to overtly insert itself in Congress’ functions.

    What has that got to do with anything? Everything depends on the leadership of the ADL and what they want to do at any given moment.

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  110. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama
    [I imagine....that they are ready to produce for law enforcement on a moment’s notice to demonstrate what bad dudes we are! ]

    I think PG writes the above with tongue firmly in cheek. ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression. It is only when views devolve into explicit or potential plans to cause violence that ADL, as do other similar organisations created to aid vigilance of state and federal laws, shares information with law enforcement.

    “ADL is not in the business of inculpating anyone for merely exercising their rights of free expression.”

    Surely you jest. You think the ADL isn’t working to criminalize BDS and other criticism of Israel? Is ADL not involved in censoring SJP on campuses? Tentacles, man. Tentacles. The US 1st Amend. tops the Israel-firsters’ hit list.

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  111. eah says:
    @eah
    Charlottesville has a liberal Democratic mayor named Mike Signer

    He's also a Jew -- if you don't think that's relevant, talk to Andrew Joyce or Kevin MacDonald.

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  112. @Wizard of Oz
    Pan-Germanism wasn't fostered by the existence of the multicultural, multinational Austro-Hungarian Empire, so that is a reason, just one of a number, to doubt your assertion that the British, before WWl, had a serious purpose of breaking it up. What is your authority, where are your references for such a novel view?

    What’s your authority for being such a pompous ass?

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  113. @Sam Shama
    [it's the same way AIPAC works Congress]

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this [other than the usual conspiracy themed speculations one can hardly be unfamiliar with when UR columns are read with any regularity]?

    Ycch! From Scranton, I can smell another one of Sam the Sham’s regular emmissions of pure (non-innuendo) sulfur.

    The E.P.A. should list hasbara indoctrination as hazardous to human mental health.

    Selah.

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  114. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Any word of truth on any matter of any momentum can be published only where the readers already know it, and nowhere else.

    Unfortunate.

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  115. Rurik says:
    @schrub
    I just realized that I might have seen a rather revealing late night video that suddenly appeared on my computer screen while browsing around hours a fews hours after after the Charlotteville riot that apparently very few others have seen. It might have been part of a TV news story or it might have been somebody's video .I forget. Now I can't seem to find it again.

    It shows a young, thin, masked Antifa guy (girl?) in the midst of this altercation getting in the face of a much bigger and much tougher looking guy in the opposition crowd. (All these Antifa members are masked and dressed identically with a red piece of clothing (shirt?) to identify themselves to one another.

    Suddenly, a big and brawny guy suddenly runs out of the far background and puts his arms around the mid section of the Antifa member in danger. He then lifts the Antifa member up bodily and carries him/her out of the crowd and deposits him/her about fifty or one hundred feet away away, safely out of danger. He then releases the Antifa member and then seems to start berating the much smaller Antifa member for apparently doing something wrong and against orders.

    Then I noticed the printing on the back of this bigger fellow's yellow tee shirt. It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star..

    It suddenly occurs to me that he is the one overseeing this one particular Antifa group from the sidelines. He is apparently also there to jump in and defend the Antifa group members if things get out of hand.

    I thought the JDL had been put on the terrorist watch list years ago and put out of business ago after its then leader, Irv Rubin, was convicted and imprisoned for attempting to bomb the office of Congressman Darrel Issa.

    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL's very visible presence at this rally?

    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL’s very visible presence at this rally?

    I’m shocked, shocked

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  116. @Greg Bacon
    Gee, look at the positive side, at least if your part of the MIC or a TBTF Wall Street Casino. The riots helped box Trump in on the Afghanistan war thing, as he now declares we'll stay there, bombing the rubble for years to come.

    That Afghan opium will keep flowing and the hundreds of billions laundered by those Wall Street gangsters will also continue to flow.

    When the hate-filled Senator Graham admires Trump's Afghan war speech, you know the nation is in trouble.

    https://youtu.be/Ddgm0ScSnx4

    Lindsey Graham definitely has an interest in the whole man-boy love thing they’ve got going on in Afghanistan.

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  117. RobinG says:
    @iffen
    finally, the mask comes off

    The mask? The mask? LOL

    Seriously, just because one worries about what dem Jews are up to doesn't make one a white supremacist.

    Anyway, I'm not sure he's a bona fide anti-Semite. I think he might be sincerely worried about what some of dem Jews are up to.

    I am not sure he has expressed opposition to the existence of Israel, just its policy vis-a-vis the US and the behavior of some Jews and others (here's looking at you Evangelicals, including philosophical Evangelicals like me).

    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism? Zion Über Alles!!

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    • Replies: @iffen
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.
  118. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    [it's the same way AIPAC works Congress]

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this [other than the usual conspiracy themed speculations one can hardly be unfamiliar with when UR columns are read with any regularity]?

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen?

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    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik,

    A question --
    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?
  119. RobinG says:
    @Avery
    {It’s worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens’ constitutional rights – a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.}

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.

    There’s always a first time. I know one Black retired Police Major who has stated publicly that the police (all branches) behaved improperly in C’ville. Reputedly, at least one cop has stated they were ordered to stand down, and were not happy about it. Anyone who can impartially separate 1st amend. rights from the emotional claptrap can see this. Unite the Right needs to get a good lawyer.

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  120. Not Bob says:
    @Corvinus
    "When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights."

    Damn Locke and Voltaire and the rest of the crew for promoting human kind's ability to use reason to solve problems and challenge the status quo. The nerve of those white Europeans to make individuals aware of their own talents.

    Haven’t read Locke.

    Voltaire it seems, like Hillary Clinton, had different “public and private” positions. In his private writings, Enlightenment was possible only for his wealthy white male friends. Black men were referred to as “les animaux negres”, able to talk but barely able to think. Women (and peasants) did not fare much better in his opinion. Never mind Jews.

    In his basically brown-nosing letters to the nobilty of Europe, he displayed his contempt for the deplorables, and talked about the necessity of lying to create the public persona of the Great Humanist, epecially the use of the Big Lie, repeated often.

    This attitude was not exclusive to Voltaire. In the earliest editions of L’ Encyclopedie the articles about Humanism, Diderot, et al, included this kind of thing. For example, an article on Africa from that period (1750′s) describes the natives as having little in the way of thoughts, and Benin and Angola as a good sources for gold, Blacks, and other commodities.

    If you read French, I refer you to Xavier Martin’s “Naissance du sous-homme au coeur des Lumieres”. The “high ideals” were promoted by cynical pretenders, mostly for their own financial and public benefit. If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.

    I understand that the ideals themselves can be separated from the writers, and am not commenting on the application, benefits, demerits or possible “cherry picking” of those ideals. But it can be shown that the “originators” of these ideals did not, in fact, believe they should or could be applied to everyone. They were just like “public thinkers” of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    The Enlightenment thinkers primary contributions that liberty is a natural human right and that reason and scientific knowledge—not the state or the church—was responsible for human progress was a blessing and a curse. A blessing, because these ideas were used to eventually destroy the institution of slavery. A curse, because Enlightenment thought served as a rationale for its implementation and expansion, based on a hierarchy of races.

    "If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work."

    He was a product of his times. One must properly view his thoughts in that particular manner. The Enlightenment Thinkers believed these ideas could be applied to ALL men, which in their world was white. Africans and tribal groups were considered savages--other than men. So naturally, but falsely, they would think life, liberty, and property were concepts these two groups could not fully grasp.

    "They were just like “public thinkers” of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts."

    So how much coin did the Enlightenment thinkers get for their thoughts? Pennies or pounds? Did they become wealthy for being a "huckster"?
    , @Ronald Thomas West
    Locke here (brown nosing was the norm of the day)

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/03/john-locke/

    The 'pantheon'

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/06/perverts-of-western-philosophy/

    My favorite going to today's 'ethical' theory:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/06/david-hume/

    The main (shared) characteristic of the 'age of enlightenment' philosophers seems to have been complicated circumlocutions intended to bury the inherent contradictions in their positions -
  121. RobinG says:
    @schrub
    I just realized that I might have seen a rather revealing late night video that suddenly appeared on my computer screen while browsing around hours a fews hours after after the Charlotteville riot that apparently very few others have seen. It might have been part of a TV news story or it might have been somebody's video .I forget. Now I can't seem to find it again.

    It shows a young, thin, masked Antifa guy (girl?) in the midst of this altercation getting in the face of a much bigger and much tougher looking guy in the opposition crowd. (All these Antifa members are masked and dressed identically with a red piece of clothing (shirt?) to identify themselves to one another.

    Suddenly, a big and brawny guy suddenly runs out of the far background and puts his arms around the mid section of the Antifa member in danger. He then lifts the Antifa member up bodily and carries him/her out of the crowd and deposits him/her about fifty or one hundred feet away away, safely out of danger. He then releases the Antifa member and then seems to start berating the much smaller Antifa member for apparently doing something wrong and against orders.

    Then I noticed the printing on the back of this bigger fellow's yellow tee shirt. It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star..

    It suddenly occurs to me that he is the one overseeing this one particular Antifa group from the sidelines. He is apparently also there to jump in and defend the Antifa group members if things get out of hand.

    I thought the JDL had been put on the terrorist watch list years ago and put out of business ago after its then leader, Irv Rubin, was convicted and imprisoned for attempting to bomb the office of Congressman Darrel Issa.

    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL's very visible presence at this rally?

    JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE was in ANTIFA in CHARLOTTESVILLE

    Thanks, schrub. Let’s look out for the video you describe in comment #105.

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  122. Z-man says:

    In NYC rumblings of removing the Columbus statue are being heard in the hard left City Council. I wonder what DeBlasio would do? Not to mention what would they call the sans Columbus Circle? Indigenous Square? LOL!!

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  123. Corvinus says:
    @ia
    White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad.

    “White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad.”

    So God didn’t make His people in His image? You know, the ability to use reason and improve society And in what ways did the Enlightenment thinkers demonstrate excessive pride? Do you even fathom their contribution to the evolvement of humankind?

    “Blacks have little talent, that’s the problem.”

    Actually, the problem is your anti-human, anti-Christian attitude toward your fellow person.

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    • Replies: @ia
    I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year. You can report back on the humane and pro-Christian treatment you recieve and dispense.Whata ya say?
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Cuck.
  124. Z-man says:
    @anonymous
    Ah, finally, the mask comes off PG's mug! He is revealed for the white supremacist he is.

    His opposition to a certain shitty nation, makes even more sense now.

    You right about that ‘certain nation’ being shitty!

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  125. Corvinus says:
    @schrub
    I just realized that I might have seen a rather revealing late night video that suddenly appeared on my computer screen while browsing around hours a fews hours after after the Charlotteville riot that apparently very few others have seen. It might have been part of a TV news story or it might have been somebody's video .I forget. Now I can't seem to find it again.

    It shows a young, thin, masked Antifa guy (girl?) in the midst of this altercation getting in the face of a much bigger and much tougher looking guy in the opposition crowd. (All these Antifa members are masked and dressed identically with a red piece of clothing (shirt?) to identify themselves to one another.

    Suddenly, a big and brawny guy suddenly runs out of the far background and puts his arms around the mid section of the Antifa member in danger. He then lifts the Antifa member up bodily and carries him/her out of the crowd and deposits him/her about fifty or one hundred feet away away, safely out of danger. He then releases the Antifa member and then seems to start berating the much smaller Antifa member for apparently doing something wrong and against orders.

    Then I noticed the printing on the back of this bigger fellow's yellow tee shirt. It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star..

    It suddenly occurs to me that he is the one overseeing this one particular Antifa group from the sidelines. He is apparently also there to jump in and defend the Antifa group members if things get out of hand.

    I thought the JDL had been put on the terrorist watch list years ago and put out of business ago after its then leader, Irv Rubin, was convicted and imprisoned for attempting to bomb the office of Congressman Darrel Issa.

    Why did the authorities and MSM deliberately ignore the the JDL's very visible presence at this rally?

    “It very clearly says JDL and Jewish Defense League on the back. He then turn around and the shirt reveals a Star of David on the front with what appears to be clenched fist in the middle of the star.”

    Find the video and share it with us. Now, assuming it to be true….BOO. A Jew was at a rally. OMG, what is the world going to come to! Your fixation is duly noted.

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  126. Jake says:
    @ia
    That was a very good article.

    Certainly, there are Jews who engage in activity to undermine whites. But, I keep asking myself why they became so powerful in the last 60 years or so. After all, Jews have been around for millennia and were kept at bay.

    When you also take into account the rise of blacks and feminism it seems apparent to me it began with the Enlightenment. Human Rights. And the oppressor group is the most successful, white men. So, the Jews jumped on the bandwagon.

    The rise of the bohemian class in the 19th century was not directed by Jews.

    p. 55 – "The naïve nineteen-year-old who tried to curry favor with high society in order to sell subscriptions to Le Livre d’or, keepsake du grand monde had become an ardent proponent of a république démocratique et sociale (democratic and socialist republic) or in shorthand, démoc-soc. The opportunistic twenty-four-year-old who had signed on as secretary to a reactionary delegate in the Chamber of Deputies was now, in his late twenties, in permanent revolt against the government, even if the government was democratically elected." – The Great Nadar: The Man Behind the Camera, by Adam Begley – it's at amazon (they won't let me link because the page is encrypted!)

    No, the rise of the ‘bohemian class’ was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn’t Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.

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    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation...The most fervent Protestants produced groups...

    Dang, just how many times do those Germanic tribes get to collapse Western Civilization?
    , @ia
    Rereading my comment I see I didn't make it plain that of course Jews played no part in early liberalism or bohemianism. I meant they jumped on long after whites started the ball rolling. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Writing is not my strong suit.
    , @ia
    Mary Wollstonecraft is considered the first feminist with her Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792):

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wollstonecraft/

    She was the mother of Mary Shelley author of Frankenstein.

    Wollstonecraft was intimately involved with the Enlightenment figures such as the Reverend Price who influenced Jefferson and Franklin.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    I think you have tossed this off from imperfect memory flavoured by preconception. This thought became hard to resist when you wrote "as soon as Cromwell gained control of the government [scil.1649] .... he made alliance with the Jews....allowing the Jews back into England". The Jews (apart from Crypto Jews, see link below) were - quite informally only - allowed back into England about September 1956. Cromwell died in September 1958.

    See http://www.fupress.net/index.php/cromohs/article/view/13673/12738
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Oops! For my 1956 and 1958 read 1656 and 1658 of course in my earlier reply...
  127. Corvinus says:
    @Not Bob
    Haven't read Locke.

    Voltaire it seems, like Hillary Clinton, had different "public and private" positions. In his private writings, Enlightenment was possible only for his wealthy white male friends. Black men were referred to as "les animaux negres", able to talk but barely able to think. Women (and peasants) did not fare much better in his opinion. Never mind Jews.

    In his basically brown-nosing letters to the nobilty of Europe, he displayed his contempt for the deplorables, and talked about the necessity of lying to create the public persona of the Great Humanist, epecially the use of the Big Lie, repeated often.

    This attitude was not exclusive to Voltaire. In the earliest editions of L' Encyclopedie the articles about Humanism, Diderot, et al, included this kind of thing. For example, an article on Africa from that period (1750's) describes the natives as having little in the way of thoughts, and Benin and Angola as a good sources for gold, Blacks, and other commodities.

    If you read French, I refer you to Xavier Martin's "Naissance du sous-homme au coeur des Lumieres". The "high ideals" were promoted by cynical pretenders, mostly for their own financial and public benefit. If Voltaire's private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.

    I understand that the ideals themselves can be separated from the writers, and am not commenting on the application, benefits, demerits or possible "cherry picking" of those ideals. But it can be shown that the "originators" of these ideals did not, in fact, believe they should or could be applied to everyone. They were just like "public thinkers" of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts.

    The Enlightenment thinkers primary contributions that liberty is a natural human right and that reason and scientific knowledge—not the state or the church—was responsible for human progress was a blessing and a curse. A blessing, because these ideas were used to eventually destroy the institution of slavery. A curse, because Enlightenment thought served as a rationale for its implementation and expansion, based on a hierarchy of races.

    “If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.”

    He was a product of his times. One must properly view his thoughts in that particular manner. The Enlightenment Thinkers believed these ideas could be applied to ALL men, which in their world was white. Africans and tribal groups were considered savages–other than men. So naturally, but falsely, they would think life, liberty, and property were concepts these two groups could not fully grasp.

    “They were just like “public thinkers” of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts.”

    So how much coin did the Enlightenment thinkers get for their thoughts? Pennies or pounds? Did they become wealthy for being a “huckster”?

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    “If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.”

    Another monument taken down. How many more? I'd say thousands. Tens of thousands,
  128. @jilles dykstra
    GB now is a third rate country.
    Berlin is the capital of continental Europe.
    GB lost the 1914 1945 war, already in 1956, when Eisenhower ended the GB Israel France conspiracy against Egypt.
    The USA now is in the same situation of GB in 1900, no longer capable of defending the world wide empire.

    I should acknowledge occasional unambiguous agreement, so I do.

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  129. Ron Unz says:

    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it’s actually even more appropriate here…

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

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    • LOL: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Alden
    Remember when Norman Lear's Freedom From Religion Foundation pressured Los Angeles County to remove the microscopic cross from the county seal?

    The joke then was the next anti Catholic move would be to change the Saint named cities, counties colleges, hospitals etc to secular ones. It was a joke then, but it's happening.

    Latest insanity from the UK is a movement to knock down all the statues of Admiral Lord Nelson on the grounds that he oppressed minorities.

    As far as I know, the only people Nelson oppressed were the French and the reluctant allies of Napoleon Bonaparte. Story is in the guardian.

    Newspapers should be abolished on the grounds of separation of church and state. After all, one of the first newspapers in early modern times was published in Paris as a project of Cardinal Richelieu.
    , @Alden
    But will millions of tourists and conventioneers want to visit "West Bay City"?
    , @Jake
    The Spanish conquered the Aztecs, who were nature-loving egalitarians in that wonderful Native American way. So yes, the Spanish were EVIL! Evil white men who must be eradicated from history save as evil villains.
    , @JackOH
    Ron, the ideologically sound New American Man has been in the making for close to two generations. Those of us who didn't get the memo, well, we're the folks going bat-crap crazy commenting here.
    , @Sam Shama
    None of this nonsense is likely to see the light of day in NYC. New Yorkers will never tolerate GWB, Columbus Circle etc being renamed.
    , @Ronald Thomas West
    I'd be up for rewriting-strengthening a history of the Spanish missions, e.g. they could rename Carmel by the Sea 'Misión de los pedófilos' for a recent Catholic saint:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/22/junipero-serra/

    Not really pc though ;)
  130. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    Nobody died at Columbine. Boston Marathon 9/11 passengers, etc.
    Its time Americans wake up to reclaim the nation.

    Staging this kind of event is child's play for the CIA.. For them, its part of the standard regime change profile.
    Mind control technology delivers activist to the place in the space to commit overt ....acts and to take in true patsy form the untraceable source of the blame for conflict of ideas to be escalated to mayhem.
    Conflict escalation [Ce} was a major tool for the Leninist plan to bring the Czar of Russia down in February, 1917 Such Ce and it has been successfully applied in the political space of many nations to bring down well like national leaders. Ce Chaos is the name of the game! Chaos is one of the dispersant that can be added to separate the people of a nation from the peace afforded to them by their political structures. Chaos unleashes abusive power the law and order prevent. Those hidden behind the scenes have a plan..but it cannot be implemented if the political and cultural structures of the target society remains strong and its principles upheld . To weaken structure: opposing interest are pitted against each other to disturb the peace and to create chaos. As the structural integrity of the target political and cultural system begin to weaken the plan is put into action.
    The nations people's support for the structure is generally strong enough to keep the political and cultural structure in place(i.e.the people continue to adhere to the law and order accustomed to their national society). What destroys that structure is chaos! Chaos works because it weakens the leadership. What chaos does is to allow behind the scene take-overs, it allows to enrage the uninformed public so, that the public itself encourages legislatures to enact the kind of Draconian rules that self-generate chaos (i.e. limits on free speech, curfews, and intrusions by governments of law and use of force). My fellow Americans find themselves once again victims of a mirage staged by those who intended chaos to be generated, the tools of the chaos generating teams were used to stir to a frenzy, those who were sincere as to a heart-felt. I quote the article "radical groups .. came together to demonstrate on both sides?" just as was done in 1917 Russia!
    OUTCOME: chaos disperses the people caught inside of media controlled political space..

    Were the millions killed and imprisoned between 1917 and 1955 in the Soviet Union crisis actors in some elaborate American intelligence operation?

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    Were the millions killed and imprisoned between 1917 and 1955 in the Soviet Union crisis actors in some elaborate American intelligence operation?
     
    in a way, yes.
    US first looked the other way, then gave political and financial support for Soviet Union genocide.

    they weren't acting. the poor people peasants & kulaks -- Christians -- died for real.
  131. @Sam Shama
    [it's the same way AIPAC works Congress]

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this [other than the usual conspiracy themed speculations one can hardly be unfamiliar with when UR columns are read with any regularity]?

    I doubt if he’s referring to regular use of the equivalent of criminal blackmail but the standard donor lobbyists’ actual or veiled threat to support an opponent in the primaries or election unless various lines are toed would surely be likely to be supported by indications that certain things were known – even without a good capitalist bonus system for Congressional behaviour outcomes.

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    Wiz,
    my question was prompted by this line:
    "I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site". Dossiers are highly suggestive of blackmail, aren't they?
  132. @hyperbola
    Oil and the origins of the
    ‘War to make the world safe for Democracy’
    http://www.oilgeopolitics.net/History/Oil_and_the_Origins_of_World_W/oil_and_the_origins_of_world_w.HTM

    At first almost unnoticed after 1850, then with significant intensity after the onset of the Great Depression of 1873 in Britain, the sun began to set on the British Empire. By the end of the 19th Century, though the City of London remained undisputed financier of the world, British industrial excellence was in terminal decline. .....
    .... The conversion of the British Navy under Churchill to oil from coal meant a high risk strategy as England had abundant coal but no then-known oil. It secured a major concession from the Shah of Persia in the early 1900’s. The Baghdad rail link was increasingly seen in London as a threat to precisely this oil security. The British response to the growing German disruption of the European balance of power after the 1890’s was to carefully craft a series of public and secret alliances with France and with Russia—former rivals—to encircle Germany. As well, she deployed a series of less public intrigues to disrupt the Balkans and encourage a revolt against the Ottoman Sultan via the Young Turks that severely weakened the prospects for the German Drang nach Osten. The dynamic of the rise of German assertiveness, including in addition to the Baghdad rail, the decision in 1900 to build a modern navy over two decades that could rival England’s, set the stage for the outbreak of a war in August 1914 whose real significance was a colossal and tragic struggle for who would succeed the ebbing power of the British Empire. The resolution of that epic struggle was to take a second world war and another quarter century before the victor was undeniably established. The role of oil in the events leading to war in 1914 is too little appreciated. When the historical process behind the war is examined from this light a quite different picture emerges. The British Empire in the decades following 1873 and the American Century hegemony in the decades following approximately 1973 have more in common than is generally appreciated....

    Thank you for that link and quote. A thought about the 1873 reference to GB’s relative decline. What do you think of the importance of the US also having gone into a long economic depression at about the same time? Did that affect GB greatly but not Germany? Also what might have been the importance of differential demographics? Didn’t Protestant British (starting with the upper middle class) start limiting their families from about that date? By contrast even Hitler still had enough young Germans to think Lebensraum was necessary.

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  133. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    Remember when Norman Lear’s Freedom From Religion Foundation pressured Los Angeles County to remove the microscopic cross from the county seal?

    The joke then was the next anti Catholic move would be to change the Saint named cities, counties colleges, hospitals etc to secular ones. It was a joke then, but it’s happening.

    Latest insanity from the UK is a movement to knock down all the statues of Admiral Lord Nelson on the grounds that he oppressed minorities.

    As far as I know, the only people Nelson oppressed were the French and the reluctant allies of Napoleon Bonaparte. Story is in the guardian.

    Newspapers should be abolished on the grounds of separation of church and state. After all, one of the first newspapers in early modern times was published in Paris as a project of Cardinal Richelieu.

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  134. geokat62 says:

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this…?

    As one of my previous comments indicates, it’s a bit of both:

    This is how the game is played: through the power of The Lobby, the USG has entered into an MOU with the Zionist state to “share” signal intelligence that is collected on all US citizens. And to mitigate against the risk of blackmail, the MOU stipulates that should the Israelis come across information on high level USG officials, they will immediately destroy it.**

    Ever wonder why some congress people – Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Dennis Hastert, Jan Schakowsky, etc. – are passionate defenders of the Zionist state?… now you know.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

    ** Here is the exact wording taken from the MOU:

    IV. (U) RESPONSIBILITIES

    b. (U) ISNU shall:

    7) (U//FOUO) Destroy upon recognition any communication contained in raw SIGINT provided by NSA that is either to or from an official of the U.S. Government. “U.S. Government officials” include officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the U.S. Federal Court system (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court). “Officials” include civilian and military members and employees performing the official business of these branches of government, and is independent of seniority or position.

    Do you think the Israelis might’ve had their fingers crossed when they entered into this non-legally binding agreement?

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    This is nothing more than a description of a partner-competitor dynamic between the allied intelligence agencies; a state of affairs which has always existed, between US/European, US/Far Eastern and US/ME allied services. To say nothing of the strict constitutional protections not discarded; it strengthens not a bit the highly speculative and libellous charge you make without evidence - of Congressmen being blackmailed.
  135. Jake says:
    @Rurik
    it isn't white men who're diving the world to the brink my friend

    http://i1.wp.com/theralphretort.com/wp-content/uploads/fat-bill.jpg

    unless you consider this corpulent bag of pus a white man

    I don't

    Putin and Trump are white men and they're doing all they can to stop the Eternal WarsⓊ that the ((neocons)) are foisting upon the world's people

    These endless wars are the contemporary conflicts of the British Empire, The US took over for the dying Empire, so that the WASP worldview would control the globe. So, yes, it is white men who are responsible.

    WASPs made Jews their junior partners in first running roughshod over the vast majority of British isles natives and then of the world. It is only in recent decades that Jews have replaced WASPs as the more important partner in the Anglo-Zionist empire.

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    the WASP worldview would control the globe. So, yes, it is white men who are responsible.
     
    this seems an obsession of yours Jake

    I know a lot of WASPs, and none of them like wars and homomania and mass-immigration and crony-capitalism 0r any of the rest of the zio-evils that plague this planet and its people.

    the few WASPs I see are quislings of Zion. Like Tony Blair or George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary.. et al.

    all the WASPs I know just want to return to a Normal Rockwell/Leave It To Beaver type of existence that they seem to thrive in so well.

    in fact the worst of the Christians seem to be huddled in the Vatican behind their massive walls these days, demanding Western civilization ("Christendom") commit suicide

  136. Alden says:
    @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    But will millions of tourists and conventioneers want to visit “West Bay City”?

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  137. @jilles dykstra
    Sir Campbell Stuart, K.B.E., 'The Secrets of Crewe House, The Story of a Famous Campaign', London, 1920

    The book is about how British WWI propaganda was organised and conducted, and what the war aims were.
    Wilson's Eighteen Points were carefully coordinated with Northcliffe's policies, Nothcliffe led Crewe House.
    Pan Germanism of course could not exist without a German, or pro German, mentality in the Habsburg empire.
    WWI GB propaganda was that even the Ottomans were pro German.

    WWI had as purpose the breaking up of three empires, the German, the Habsburg and the Ottoman.
    Hitler resurrected the German empire, what remained of the Otoman empire was far more than foreseen by the Treaty of Sèvres of 1921, just the objective of breaking up the Habsburg empire was realised.
    Atatürk is the man who maybe most changed world history, intended world history.

    The three mentioned empires were all along the Berlin Baghdad railway, nowhere I ever saw the objective of WWI so brilliantly explained as in a pamphlet made and distributed by Crewe House, the pamphlet had a map of the Berlin Baghdad railway.

    Thank you. Maybe doesn’t quite get the story back to pre WW1 but hyperbola’s link does serve as a reminder that oil was being though about by some at least from the time of the conversion of the navy from coal. It seems unlikely that this would have led to much thought of breaking up the rather decrepit Hapsburg empire before WW1. (It does occur to me that the thoughts of the highminded who had supported revolt against the Turks for a long time might have made logical extensions of their thinking to Austria-Hungary).

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  138. Jake says:
    @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    The Spanish conquered the Aztecs, who were nature-loving egalitarians in that wonderful Native American way. So yes, the Spanish were EVIL! Evil white men who must be eradicated from history save as evil villains.

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  139. iffen says:
    @RobinG
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism? Zion Über Alles!!

    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

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    Oh, dear, what have we here?
    , @Sam Shama
    [some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.]

    Yes, I can see it as well. Note nevertheless, around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries who found sanctuary in Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries
    , @Wizard of Oz
    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state? After all Tony Judt was one of those.
    , @Rurik

    some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.
     
    wow

    how generous you are!

    what about their houses?

    Can they get those back? or do you only offer the Palestinians your sympathy?
  140. CalDre says:
    @Avery
    {It’s worth noting that states do not have sovereign immunity for violating citizens’ constitutional rights – a federal statute, 42 USC 1983, provides a right of action.}

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.

    One example? There are literally tens of thousands of “civil rights” cases that have been brought under Section 1983. Here are Supreme Court cases decided under that statute – almost 2,000 cases and the Supreme Court hears less than 1% of appeals (never mind cases that settle before or after trial court judgment or appellate review). Most of these “settlements” you hear about regarding police brutality are brought under 42 USC 1983. Here is a brief primer.

    Also lots of First Amendment cases have been brought under 1983 – not just free speech but those cases that object to prayer in school or a cross on a Christmas tree. This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.

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    You are throwing out a lot chaff.
    You did a Google search on “42 USC 1983″ and it threw out a lot non related stuff.

    Here is one from that list:
    [Heck v. Humphrey, 512 US 477 - Supreme Court 1994]
    [This case presents the question whether a state prisoner may challenge the constitutionality of his conviction in a suit for damages under 42 U. S. C. § 1983.]

    Yeah, it mentions the U.S.C. code: So?…..Unrelated legalese gobbledygook.

    Again: find one case where an individual or group of individuals prevailed against the State in circumstances substantially similar to the Charlottesville situation.

    The original post argued for one or more individuals to sue the State and the City for “failure….”.
    And I argued that it can’t be done in practice, because the State, the City, the Police have too many escape clauses built in a priori.

    {Also lots of First Amendment cases …….This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.}

    Yeah, OK: have that attorney bring a 1st amendment suit against the State and the City, see how far it will go.

  141. iffen says:
    @Jake
    No, the rise of the 'bohemian class' was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn't Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation…The most fervent Protestants produced groups…

    Dang, just how many times do those Germanic tribes get to collapse Western Civilization?

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    So far, Germanics have played definitive, decisive, roles in 2 destructions of Western Civilization: the one that produced the Dark Ages and the one we are experiencing.

    Unless culturally Germanic peoples are significantly Latinized, Romanized, by liturgy and scholarship, they will move toward cultural destruction. They will a-Viking Western civilization to death. And in the late stages, they will exhibit total desire for cultural and racial suicide: the Germanic Gotterdammerung.

    That pattern is as sure as are the patterns of blacks, Jews, and Arabs.

  142. @Rurik

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen?
     
    http://www.worldwideinterweb.com/images/joomgallery/originals/cool_705/age_old_questions_answered_by_the_internet_1081/does-a-bear-crap-in-the-woods_20150603_1562667678.jpg

    Rurik,

    A question –
    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?

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    Hey Chuck,

    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?
     
    actually he just left another AIPAC on the forest leaves, there to remind others of Sam's query
  143. JackOH says:
    @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    Ron, the ideologically sound New American Man has been in the making for close to two generations. Those of us who didn’t get the memo, well, we’re the folks going bat-crap crazy commenting here.

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  144. ia says:
    @Corvinus
    "White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad."

    So God didn't make His people in His image? You know, the ability to use reason and improve society And in what ways did the Enlightenment thinkers demonstrate excessive pride? Do you even fathom their contribution to the evolvement of humankind?

    "Blacks have little talent, that’s the problem."

    Actually, the problem is your anti-human, anti-Christian attitude toward your fellow person.

    I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year. You can report back on the humane and pro-Christian treatment you recieve and dispense.Whata ya say?

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year."

    I would, as I have traveled abroad everywhere. Alas, I have a family and a job. And there is a consistent civil strife in the Congo, it would not make sense for outsiders to travel there. Maybe you have a death wish...

    Saudi Arabia is not as bad as you think. You proudly wear that anti-humanity dunce cap.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/before-you-go/why-expat-life-in-saudi-arabia-is-more-fun-than-you-might-think/
  145. Avery says:
    @CalDre
    One example? There are literally tens of thousands of "civil rights" cases that have been brought under Section 1983. Here are Supreme Court cases decided under that statute - almost 2,000 cases and the Supreme Court hears less than 1% of appeals (never mind cases that settle before or after trial court judgment or appellate review). Most of these "settlements" you hear about regarding police brutality are brought under 42 USC 1983. Here is a brief primer.

    Also lots of First Amendment cases have been brought under 1983 - not just free speech but those cases that object to prayer in school or a cross on a Christmas tree. This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.

    You are throwing out a lot chaff.
    You did a Google search on “42 USC 1983″ and it threw out a lot non related stuff.

    Here is one from that list:
    [Heck v. Humphrey, 512 US 477 - Supreme Court 1994]
    [This case presents the question whether a state prisoner may challenge the constitutionality of his conviction in a suit for damages under 42 U. S. C. § 1983.]

    Yeah, it mentions the U.S.C. code: So?…..Unrelated legalese gobbledygook.

    Again: find one case where an individual or group of individuals prevailed against the State in circumstances substantially similar to the Charlottesville situation.

    The original post argued for one or more individuals to sue the State and the City for “failure….”.
    And I argued that it can’t be done in practice, because the State, the City, the Police have too many escape clauses built in a priori.

    {Also lots of First Amendment cases …….This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.}

    Yeah, OK: have that attorney bring a 1st amendment suit against the State and the City, see how far it will go.

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    • Replies: @CalDre
    My initial response was to your claim about "sovereign immunity" and citizens not being able to sue governments, and I replied to that particular claim with the response that States and government officials can be sued for constitutional violations under 42 USC 1983. To which you replied:

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.
     
    And I gave lots of examples.

    Now, you've done an attempted switcheroo, asking for a case where someone won a judgment for a cop refusing to uphold the law. Well, given that tens of thousands of published Section 1983 decisions, I'm not about to review them all, though I do recall reading about a case where an officer was held liable for failure to protect.

    But I don't think that is the case here. Here there is testimony from cops stating they were ordered to march the protesters and counter-protesters together and to "stand down" when the fisticuffs began. That's not a failure to intervene, that's deliberately provoking violence. If I were a Virginia litigator I would take that case, assuming I could confirm some of these claims. Moreover, there is a claim against the city for banning the rally before it took place, after a federal court had ordered the permit to be issued.

    Aside from the free speech issue, there's the issue of equal protection of the laws. The city banned a lawfully authorized protest by peaceful people (after banning it the first time and having a federal court overrule him) but permitted an unlawful gathering of Commie thugs, not only in general, but specifically at the place where the other protest was occurring.

    There is plenty of evidence to support all this, and in the end, a jury decides who is guilty. But even if there is not enough evidence, the point is, if the police did intentionally use third parties to suppress free speech, the third parties are deemed to be "operating under color of state law" and hence they and the police would be legally liable.
  146. ia says:
    @Jake
    No, the rise of the 'bohemian class' was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn't Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.

    Rereading my comment I see I didn’t make it plain that of course Jews played no part in early liberalism or bohemianism. I meant they jumped on long after whites started the ball rolling. Thanks for pointing out my mistake. Writing is not my strong suit.

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  147. ia says:
    @Jake
    No, the rise of the 'bohemian class' was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn't Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.

    Mary Wollstonecraft is considered the first feminist with her Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792):

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wollstonecraft/

    She was the mother of Mary Shelley author of Frankenstein.

    Wollstonecraft was intimately involved with the Enlightenment figures such as the Reverend Price who influenced Jefferson and Franklin.

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    The first Feminist conference in America was in 1848 in Seneca falls, NY. And almost all the (WASP only) women present knew Mary Wollstonecraft's work well.

    Mary Wallstonecraft's husband was William Godwin. Godwin was a forerunner of utilitarianism (a quintessentially British philosophy that is antithetical to Christianity) and one of the earliest anarchists. He was that typical Anglo-Saxon type who seemed to have high IQ and yet be oblivious to the fact that his good intentions in the hands of other could lead to Hell.

    Godwin I see as a standard example of how Calvinist thought deeply practiced produces a great deal of atheism by the third or fourth generation.
  148. ia says:
    @Corvinus
    The Enlightenment thinkers primary contributions that liberty is a natural human right and that reason and scientific knowledge—not the state or the church—was responsible for human progress was a blessing and a curse. A blessing, because these ideas were used to eventually destroy the institution of slavery. A curse, because Enlightenment thought served as a rationale for its implementation and expansion, based on a hierarchy of races.

    "If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work."

    He was a product of his times. One must properly view his thoughts in that particular manner. The Enlightenment Thinkers believed these ideas could be applied to ALL men, which in their world was white. Africans and tribal groups were considered savages--other than men. So naturally, but falsely, they would think life, liberty, and property were concepts these two groups could not fully grasp.

    "They were just like “public thinkers” of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts."

    So how much coin did the Enlightenment thinkers get for their thoughts? Pennies or pounds? Did they become wealthy for being a "huckster"?

    “If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.”

    Another monument taken down. How many more? I’d say thousands. Tens of thousands,

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    "Another monument taken down. How many more? I’d say thousands. Tens of thousands."

    You are hyperventilating. Here is a virtual brown paper bag.
  149. Corvinus says:
    @ia
    I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year. You can report back on the humane and pro-Christian treatment you recieve and dispense.Whata ya say?

    “I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year.”

    I would, as I have traveled abroad everywhere. Alas, I have a family and a job. And there is a consistent civil strife in the Congo, it would not make sense for outsiders to travel there. Maybe you have a death wish…

    Saudi Arabia is not as bad as you think. You proudly wear that anti-humanity dunce cap.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/before-you-go/why-expat-life-in-saudi-arabia-is-more-fun-than-you-might-think/

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    • Replies: @ia
    You think you're the only one who's been overseas?

    The author of the Saudi piece:

    "Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija"

    LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?
  150. notice says:

    If white people would like to help downtrodden whites prosper and have larger families (a white birthrate of 3 children per female for a couple of generations), I think a sort of antipoverty organization dedicated to whites mentoring younger whites and transmitting life skills and some trade skills would be a better way to accomplish this than what we are seeing.

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  151. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Alden
    Were the millions killed and imprisoned between 1917 and 1955 in the Soviet Union crisis actors in some elaborate American intelligence operation?

    Were the millions killed and imprisoned between 1917 and 1955 in the Soviet Union crisis actors in some elaborate American intelligence operation?

    in a way, yes.
    US first looked the other way, then gave political and financial support for Soviet Union genocide.
    they weren’t acting. the poor people peasants & kulaks — Christians — died for real.

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  152. ia says:
    @Corvinus
    "I invite you to one-year trip to Kinshasa, paid by me. Or if not that how about Mecca? You live with humanity for one year."

    I would, as I have traveled abroad everywhere. Alas, I have a family and a job. And there is a consistent civil strife in the Congo, it would not make sense for outsiders to travel there. Maybe you have a death wish...

    Saudi Arabia is not as bad as you think. You proudly wear that anti-humanity dunce cap.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/before-you-go/why-expat-life-in-saudi-arabia-is-more-fun-than-you-might-think/

    You think you’re the only one who’s been overseas?

    The author of the Saudi piece:

    “Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija”

    LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?

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    Most likely, yes.
    , @Corvinus
    "The author of the Saudi piece: “Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija”

    So? How has his decision personally affected your life?

    "LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?"

    First, my bride is American. Second, you do realize that you just dissed Derbyshire, an Alt Right hero, with your comment. Third, you assume that it is other than manly for a man of the West to marry outside of their race and/or culture. Finally, your ignorance is telling.

  153. @Corvinus
    "White men committed the error of hubris. Nemesis is at hand. Whom the gods wish to destroy they first drive mad."

    So God didn't make His people in His image? You know, the ability to use reason and improve society And in what ways did the Enlightenment thinkers demonstrate excessive pride? Do you even fathom their contribution to the evolvement of humankind?

    "Blacks have little talent, that’s the problem."

    Actually, the problem is your anti-human, anti-Christian attitude toward your fellow person.

    Cuck.

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  154. @ia
    You think you're the only one who's been overseas?

    The author of the Saudi piece:

    "Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija"

    LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?

    Most likely, yes.

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  155. Skeptikal says:
    @jilles dykstra
    published too soon

    Wilson supported this break up by his princple of self determination, nationalism.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, equals racism etc.
    Pre WWI GB wanted the break up of the Habsburg empire, they feared Pan Germanism, direction ME, India and Far East.
    Nowadays nationalism is wrong, threatens the EU.

    Yes, it is decidedly interesting and worth noting how the concepts such as nationalism change their spots. What is right an dgood in one era suddenly lbecomes evil in the next. I guess it all depends on how the elites see their bread buttered.

    One of Churchill’ s main strategic goals with WWI was the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and a land grab for Brits and French. Screw the Arabs! Jews had been in pretty good shape in the Ott. Empire. They could move to Palestine if they wanted to and could buy land. But they, and the Brits, completely sidelined the Palestinian Arabs’ nationalistic aspirations. In fact, all of the Arabs.
    Perfidious Albion!!!

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    Should we be upset His Majesty's Govt of the period, pushed aside the Turks and Arabs from inheriting all of the Middle East? After all haven't we noticed what superb nation builders Arabs have been during the period since?
  156. Skeptikal says:
    @Ximenes

    Look at the leftist scum populating the anti-fascist movement who are not wearing masks. They are white people.
     
    Has it occurred to you that most of the "white people" wearing masks and carrying weapons at antifa campaigns may be Jews?

    Yep, I reckon so. That thought occurred to me, too.

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  157. Jake says:
    @iffen
    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation...The most fervent Protestants produced groups...

    Dang, just how many times do those Germanic tribes get to collapse Western Civilization?

    So far, Germanics have played definitive, decisive, roles in 2 destructions of Western Civilization: the one that produced the Dark Ages and the one we are experiencing.

    Unless culturally Germanic peoples are significantly Latinized, Romanized, by liturgy and scholarship, they will move toward cultural destruction. They will a-Viking Western civilization to death. And in the late stages, they will exhibit total desire for cultural and racial suicide: the Germanic Gotterdammerung.

    That pattern is as sure as are the patterns of blacks, Jews, and Arabs.

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  158. Skeptikal says:
    @iffen
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

    Oh, dear, what have we here?

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  159. Skeptikal says:
    @Sam Shama
    The Charlottsville administration appears rather incompetent in allowing both Antifa and the various White Supremacists to appear in the public square concurrently. I do agree McAuliffe and Co. need to be investigated, principally to discover if their motives were beyond that which can be explained by incompetence.

    I don’t think the Antifa protesters were “allowed” in the square.
    They had no permit.
    They weren’t “allowed” to be anywhere around there and should have been made to disperse and go somewhere else, with force if necessary (I mean to be made to go somewhere else to hold their protest).
    The police do this all the time.
    “Cage” protesters to avoid problems they foresee.
    So, WFT, C’ville Police???

    McAuliffe definitely had a hand in this “standing down.”

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  160. Jake says:
    @ia
    Mary Wollstonecraft is considered the first feminist with her Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792):

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wollstonecraft/

    She was the mother of Mary Shelley author of Frankenstein.

    Wollstonecraft was intimately involved with the Enlightenment figures such as the Reverend Price who influenced Jefferson and Franklin.

    The first Feminist conference in America was in 1848 in Seneca falls, NY. And almost all the (WASP only) women present knew Mary Wollstonecraft’s work well.

    Mary Wallstonecraft’s husband was William Godwin. Godwin was a forerunner of utilitarianism (a quintessentially British philosophy that is antithetical to Christianity) and one of the earliest anarchists. He was that typical Anglo-Saxon type who seemed to have high IQ and yet be oblivious to the fact that his good intentions in the hands of other could lead to Hell.

    Godwin I see as a standard example of how Calvinist thought deeply practiced produces a great deal of atheism by the third or fourth generation.

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  161. geokat62 says:

    Seems like the ball of yarn is unraveling faster than expected.

    Excerpt from Jews argue whether Zionism is racism — in the Forward!

    The best news is that the Forward, America’s leading liberal Jewish publication, published a piece by Naomi Dann of Jewish Voice for Peace last week equating Zionism with racism. That’s revolutionary. Time was when that argument was made by Arabs at the United Nations and then stifled as supposed anti-Semitism. Now it’s in the Forward, from the mouth of a Jew!

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/08/whether-zionism-forward/

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    George, as you well know, JVP is a gatekeeper and funds Mondoweiss. They provide a controlled opposition to Jewish power to prevent a mass uprising. They banned people like Gilad Atzmon and Alison Weir (http://ifamericaknew.org/) labelling them as anti-semites as is the standard weapon of diversion and distraction. People like Jeff Blankfort were banned because of his views on the Jewish historical role in the rise of the Nazis in Germany were banned from Mondoweiss.

    Alison Weir is a patriot who has struggled long and hard against the Jewish Lobby that JVP pretends to oppose with feeble gestures. Her book, Against Our Better Judgment, is a must-read ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/149591092X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=149591092X&linkCode=as2&tag=ifamericankne-20 ) and Gilad Atzmon's book, The Wandering Who ( https://www.amazon.com/Wandering-Who-Gilad-Atzmon/dp/1846948754/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1503546641&sr=1-3&keywords=gilad+atzmon ) on Jewish Identity Politics has made him persona non grata in the Jewish community and his shows as a jazz musician are frequently protested.

    You may be rejoicing prematurely...

  162. CalDre says:
    @Avery
    You are throwing out a lot chaff.
    You did a Google search on “42 USC 1983″ and it threw out a lot non related stuff.

    Here is one from that list:
    [Heck v. Humphrey, 512 US 477 - Supreme Court 1994]
    [This case presents the question whether a state prisoner may challenge the constitutionality of his conviction in a suit for damages under 42 U. S. C. § 1983.]

    Yeah, it mentions the U.S.C. code: So?…..Unrelated legalese gobbledygook.

    Again: find one case where an individual or group of individuals prevailed against the State in circumstances substantially similar to the Charlottesville situation.

    The original post argued for one or more individuals to sue the State and the City for “failure….”.
    And I argued that it can’t be done in practice, because the State, the City, the Police have too many escape clauses built in a priori.

    {Also lots of First Amendment cases …….This attorney specializes in free speech cases under 1983.}

    Yeah, OK: have that attorney bring a 1st amendment suit against the State and the City, see how far it will go.

    My initial response was to your claim about “sovereign immunity” and citizens not being able to sue governments, and I replied to that particular claim with the response that States and government officials can be sued for constitutional violations under 42 USC 1983. To which you replied:

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.

    And I gave lots of examples.

    Now, you’ve done an attempted switcheroo, asking for a case where someone won a judgment for a cop refusing to uphold the law. Well, given that tens of thousands of published Section 1983 decisions, I’m not about to review them all, though I do recall reading about a case where an officer was held liable for failure to protect.

    But I don’t think that is the case here. Here there is testimony from cops stating they were ordered to march the protesters and counter-protesters together and to “stand down” when the fisticuffs began. That’s not a failure to intervene, that’s deliberately provoking violence. If I were a Virginia litigator I would take that case, assuming I could confirm some of these claims. Moreover, there is a claim against the city for banning the rally before it took place, after a federal court had ordered the permit to be issued.

    Aside from the free speech issue, there’s the issue of equal protection of the laws. The city banned a lawfully authorized protest by peaceful people (after banning it the first time and having a federal court overrule him) but permitted an unlawful gathering of Commie thugs, not only in general, but specifically at the place where the other protest was occurring.

    There is plenty of evidence to support all this, and in the end, a jury decides who is guilty. But even if there is not enough evidence, the point is, if the police did intentionally use third parties to suppress free speech, the third parties are deemed to be “operating under color of state law” and hence they and the police would be legally liable.

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    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    And _you_ did't give any relevant examples: just a bunch of cases that had the string “42 USC 1983″ in them. Totally irrelevant to Charlottesville, as I showed you with one case from _your_ list about a prisoner. Anybody can throw a string at Google and then list the results: useless.
    Waste of time.

    The “sovereign immunity” clause is applicable, because you (i.e. the plaintiff) will be arguing that the State, or the City, or the Police should or should not have done something or other.
    It won't go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of "experts" will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
    And the fact that some cop said this or that is immaterial: for every cop that says something against the City, the City will bring dozens of cops of all levels to debunk them.

    And how many cops do you think will risk their careers to testify on behalf of people who have already been painted as 'Nazis', 'White Supremacists', 'KKK' ?

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.


    btw: the State is already going after at least one guy from the so-called "Alt-right".
    (Guess why)
    An arrest warrant has been issued for one Cantwell. The warrant is for two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of "malicious bodily injury by means of any caustic substance or agent,"

    , @Skeptikal
    "if the police did intentionally use third parties to suppress free speech, the third parties are deemed to be “operating under color of state law” and hence they and the police would be legally liable."

    Couldn't this also be a RICO case?
    Conspiracy to deprive others of rights to free speech?
  163. Sam Shama says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I doubt if he's referring to regular use of the equivalent of criminal blackmail but the standard donor lobbyists' actual or veiled threat to support an opponent in the primaries or election unless various lines are toed would surely be likely to be supported by indications that certain things were known - even without a good capitalist bonus system for Congressional behaviour outcomes.

    Wiz,
    my question was prompted by this line:
    I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site“. Dossiers are highly suggestive of blackmail, aren’t they?

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    I would agree that PG got very close to unambiguously accusing them of blackmail but I don't think the word "dossier" is the key to that. The info that all political parties, including video and audio clips, transcripts of interviews and voting records could properly be described as dossiers. Mind you slips in the voting record could be just as good for blackmail (non-technical sense) as slips in the mistress's bathroom.
  164. Redman says:
    @Chris Dakota
    I said to a cop a few yrs ago "Boston Marathon was a false flag" he said "Does it even matter?"
    True it doesn't matter, it is taken as real and the objective is realized anyway.
    Trump didn't call out Charlottesville as a false flag, he folded to the deep state and extended the war in Afghanistan.

    Trump has given away a lot with his new Afghan policy. But there’s no way to call something a false flag at that level without proof.

    It may be true. And in C’ville it was likely the case. But to call it that opens Trump up to a whole other level of attack. He showed balls attacking the media for their blatant bias. Can’t expect much more.

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  165. Sam Shama says:
    @geokat62

    Is that an innuendo suggesting AIPAC blackmails Congressmen? Is there any evidence of this...?
     
    As one of my previous comments indicates, it's a bit of both:

    This is how the game is played: through the power of The Lobby, the USG has entered into an MOU with the Zionist state to “share” signal intelligence that is collected on all US citizens. And to mitigate against the risk of blackmail, the MOU stipulates that should the Israelis come across information on high level USG officials, they will immediately destroy it.**

    Ever wonder why some congress people – Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Dennis Hastert, Jan Schakowsky, etc. – are passionate defenders of the Zionist state?… now you know.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

    ** Here is the exact wording taken from the MOU:

    IV. (U) RESPONSIBILITIES

    b. (U) ISNU shall:

    7) (U//FOUO) Destroy upon recognition any communication contained in raw SIGINT provided by NSA that is either to or from an official of the U.S. Government. "U.S. Government officials" include officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the U.S. Federal Court system (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court). "Officials" include civilian and military members and employees performing the official business of these branches of government, and is independent of seniority or position.
     

    Do you think the Israelis might've had their fingers crossed when they entered into this non-legally binding agreement?

    This is nothing more than a description of a partner-competitor dynamic between the allied intelligence agencies; a state of affairs which has always existed, between US/European, US/Far Eastern and US/ME allied services. To say nothing of the strict constitutional protections not discarded; it strengthens not a bit the highly speculative and libellous charge you make without evidence – of Congressmen being blackmailed.

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    Can you point to the equivalent completeness of unfiltered coverage and reliance on undertakings amongst the Five Eyes countries?

    On the face of it, unless the arrangement with Israel is just boilerplate wording I would regard it as naive to believe that one of DC's most powerful lobbies doesn't use it to control USG people found to have dirty secrets. Why wouldn't they?

    If it is just boilerplate and there is no real likelihood of misuse of SIGINT it is probably because of something we don't know about the whole operation; e.g. what is collected, or some sort of regular checking for embarrassing material which may have been picked up because of lack of realtime filtering and which is somehow neutralised.
    , @ChuckOrloski
    Hey Sam the Sham,

    As you know, AIPAC takes possession of U.S. Congress by the implementation of a fiendish business plan that is on record in The Book of Genesis, Chapter 3.

    To plain spokenly summarize the matter, AIPAC's perpetual covenant with ambitious Congressmen is this: Eat from The Lobby vine and you are mine!

    People like ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney refused and she was dispatched to ZUSA's paradise-in-reverse "garden" door.

    Post scriptum to geokat: Having foolishly launched a libel charge against you, the Shammy has demonstrated his affinity for the ancient "Serpent" modus operandi.
  166. @Sam Shama
    Wiz,
    my question was prompted by this line:
    "I imagine they have dossiers on both you and me and on many others who write into this site". Dossiers are highly suggestive of blackmail, aren't they?

    I would agree that PG got very close to unambiguously accusing them of blackmail but I don’t think the word “dossier” is the key to that. The info that all political parties, including video and audio clips, transcripts of interviews and voting records could properly be described as dossiers. Mind you slips in the voting record could be just as good for blackmail (non-technical sense) as slips in the mistress’s bathroom.

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    Agreed. I suppose one might call "dossier" records such as those you mention regarding Congressmen; yet here, the dossiers were asserted to be on columnists and commentators as well - many of the latter no more significant than feral animals really, ones which choose boorish uninvited responses to our posts. I hardly believe ADL has any worse items on its agenda than keeping dossiers on crotchety old bus drivers or inconsequential and hysterical ne'er-do-wells.
  167. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

    [some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.]

    Yes, I can see it as well. Note nevertheless, around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries who found sanctuary in Israel.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

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    around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries

    Yes, I can see the injustice done to both ME Jews and Palestinians. The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.
  168. Avery says:
    @CalDre
    My initial response was to your claim about "sovereign immunity" and citizens not being able to sue governments, and I replied to that particular claim with the response that States and government officials can be sued for constitutional violations under 42 USC 1983. To which you replied:

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.
     
    And I gave lots of examples.

    Now, you've done an attempted switcheroo, asking for a case where someone won a judgment for a cop refusing to uphold the law. Well, given that tens of thousands of published Section 1983 decisions, I'm not about to review them all, though I do recall reading about a case where an officer was held liable for failure to protect.

    But I don't think that is the case here. Here there is testimony from cops stating they were ordered to march the protesters and counter-protesters together and to "stand down" when the fisticuffs began. That's not a failure to intervene, that's deliberately provoking violence. If I were a Virginia litigator I would take that case, assuming I could confirm some of these claims. Moreover, there is a claim against the city for banning the rally before it took place, after a federal court had ordered the permit to be issued.

    Aside from the free speech issue, there's the issue of equal protection of the laws. The city banned a lawfully authorized protest by peaceful people (after banning it the first time and having a federal court overrule him) but permitted an unlawful gathering of Commie thugs, not only in general, but specifically at the place where the other protest was occurring.

    There is plenty of evidence to support all this, and in the end, a jury decides who is guilty. But even if there is not enough evidence, the point is, if the police did intentionally use third parties to suppress free speech, the third parties are deemed to be "operating under color of state law" and hence they and the police would be legally liable.

    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    And _you_ did’t give any relevant examples: just a bunch of cases that had the string “42 USC 1983″ in them. Totally irrelevant to Charlottesville, as I showed you with one case from _your_ list about a prisoner. Anybody can throw a string at Google and then list the results: useless.
    Waste of time.

    The “sovereign immunity” clause is applicable, because you (i.e. the plaintiff) will be arguing that the State, or the City, or the Police should or should not have done something or other.
    It won’t go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of “experts” will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
    And the fact that some cop said this or that is immaterial: for every cop that says something against the City, the City will bring dozens of cops of all levels to debunk them.

    And how many cops do you think will risk their careers to testify on behalf of people who have already been painted as ‘Nazis’, ‘White Supremacists’, ‘KKK’ ?

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.

    btw: the State is already going after at least one guy from the so-called “Alt-right”.
    (Guess why)
    An arrest warrant has been issued for one Cantwell. The warrant is for two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of “malicious bodily injury by means of any caustic substance or agent,”

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    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.
     

    No, we weren't. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite, I understand. No worries. You made a claim about "sovereign immunity", which I easily debunked. End of story.

    The string "42 USC 1983" is relevant because they are largely cases brought against sovereigns. And it's not just a "string", it's a reference to a statute (indeed, a statute that removes sovereign immunity), something you apparently don't know, sad as that is.


    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.
     
    WTF? There's not even an event that is "substantially similar to Charlottesville". And I'm certainly not conducting legal research for you for free - $500/hr might convince me.

    And you are simply again demonstrating that you have not even the slightest clue what "sovereign immunity" means. There is no sovereign immunity for violating constitutional rights. As to your point about a "blue wall" and the like, as I noted, with my references, police lose these cases all the time. One example: Abner Louima. Yeah, it's hard to win cases against any large, well-funded organization. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with "sovereign immunity".

    , @CalDre
    Cantwell is a revolting narcissist with absolutely no redeeming quality, probably an agent (as I refuse to believe a genuine person could be such a total POS). And the sooner he gets as far away from being presented as in any way representing anything other than the CIA, George Soros or his pathetic self, the better. In the event he actually is independent, the Globalists could not dream up a better "opponent".

    His arrest warrant doesn't prove a thing. Could be the CIA trying to improve his street creds (seems the charge is rather baseless). But no matter what, he is a pathetic POS.
    , @fnn

    It won’t go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of “experts” will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
     
    That would take quite a bit of twisted Talmudic reasoning given that the fuzz did precisely the opposite. But I defer to your superior knowledge.
  169. @anonymous
    Another excellent essay. Mr. Giraldi, I would appreciate knowing what you think about one particular aspect of the stagecraft.

    Having watched a few (not all, especially as some have been squelched) of the videos assembled under the parallel Cleburne article, my impression is that these so-called Uniters of The Right may have selected the forum because they, like the Establishment generally, desired a violent altercation.

    The Friday night torchlight parade as filmed by Vice seems almost scripted, provocative “reality TV” to stoke fear and loathing among the American manipullati. Men who look like Haven Monohan’s frat brothers chanting “Blood And Soil” (really?!), in perfect formation behind a drum major who looks like a Viking Hell’s Angel, all left undisturbed by observers. Are these even the same people sent packing on Saturday from the park and down the street to be abused by hundreds of counter-protestors, as seen in the Goldy video?

    Thank you.

    Blood and Soil (really?!) Well silly me. I thought it was a reference to Spengler’s The Decline of the West because Spengler came real close to nailing it.

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    I doubt that many of the torch bearers have read that book (nor have I), but my point is that the video of the Friday night march looks staged. Several others here have agreed.

    Do you have any opinion about that?
  170. Sam Shama says:
    @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    None of this nonsense is likely to see the light of day in NYC. New Yorkers will never tolerate GWB, Columbus Circle etc being renamed.

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    Rubbish. New Yorkers will roll over en masse the minute they're accused of racism, and you can be sure the bankers and other elites will be in full support.
  171. Sam Shama says:
    @Skeptikal
    Yes, it is decidedly interesting and worth noting how the concepts such as nationalism change their spots. What is right an dgood in one era suddenly lbecomes evil in the next. I guess it all depends on how the elites see their bread buttered.

    One of Churchill' s main strategic goals with WWI was the breakup of the Ottoman Empire and a land grab for Brits and French. Screw the Arabs! Jews had been in pretty good shape in the Ott. Empire. They could move to Palestine if they wanted to and could buy land. But they, and the Brits, completely sidelined the Palestinian Arabs' nationalistic aspirations. In fact, all of the Arabs.
    Perfidious Albion!!!

    Should we be upset His Majesty’s Govt of the period, pushed aside the Turks and Arabs from inheriting all of the Middle East? After all haven’t we noticed what superb nation builders Arabs have been during the period since?

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    My main point was this:
    "Yes, it is decidedly interesting and worth noting how the concepts such as nationalism change their spots. What is right and good in one era suddenly becomes evil in the next. I guess it all depends on how the elites see their bread buttered. "

    The rest of my post was more or less meant as an example of changes in how empires/nations were/are viewed. (As an advocate of Palestinian rights, I just stuck in a few points on that situ.)

    My info on the Ottoman Empire was meant as an addendum to the point about the Hapsburg Empire made in the previously linked post, by Dykstra. Then, the breakup of empire and creation of nations; now, the suppression of nations/sovereignty in favor of "empire" (EU; USA empire).

    Of course #1 it is quite possible, if not probable, that the idea then was that nations would be easier to control than empires, no matter how shambolic. Of course #2, shambolic empires are/were veerrrry tempting to other empire builders, including their corporate "nations" such as the Anglo-Persian Oil Co. and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. (a.k.a. British Petroleum).

  172. Corvinus says:
    @ia
    You think you're the only one who's been overseas?

    The author of the Saudi piece:

    "Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija"

    LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?

    “The author of the Saudi piece: “Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija”

    So? How has his decision personally affected your life?

    “LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?”

    First, my bride is American. Second, you do realize that you just dissed Derbyshire, an Alt Right hero, with your comment. Third, you assume that it is other than manly for a man of the West to marry outside of their race and/or culture. Finally, your ignorance is telling.

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    Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care, but you're the cuck, not me. And interesting you'd hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a "hero" of the alt-Right.
  173. Corvinus says:
    @ia
    “If Voltaire’s private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.”

    Another monument taken down. How many more? I'd say thousands. Tens of thousands,

    “Another monument taken down. How many more? I’d say thousands. Tens of thousands.”

    You are hyperventilating. Here is a virtual brown paper bag.

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  174. CalDre says:
    @Avery
    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    And _you_ did't give any relevant examples: just a bunch of cases that had the string “42 USC 1983″ in them. Totally irrelevant to Charlottesville, as I showed you with one case from _your_ list about a prisoner. Anybody can throw a string at Google and then list the results: useless.
    Waste of time.

    The “sovereign immunity” clause is applicable, because you (i.e. the plaintiff) will be arguing that the State, or the City, or the Police should or should not have done something or other.
    It won't go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of "experts" will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
    And the fact that some cop said this or that is immaterial: for every cop that says something against the City, the City will bring dozens of cops of all levels to debunk them.

    And how many cops do you think will risk their careers to testify on behalf of people who have already been painted as 'Nazis', 'White Supremacists', 'KKK' ?

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.


    btw: the State is already going after at least one guy from the so-called "Alt-right".
    (Guess why)
    An arrest warrant has been issued for one Cantwell. The warrant is for two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of "malicious bodily injury by means of any caustic substance or agent,"

    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    No, we weren’t. Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite, I understand. No worries. You made a claim about “sovereign immunity”, which I easily debunked. End of story.

    The string “42 USC 1983″ is relevant because they are largely cases brought against sovereigns. And it’s not just a “string”, it’s a reference to a statute (indeed, a statute that removes sovereign immunity), something you apparently don’t know, sad as that is.

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.

    WTF? There’s not even an event that is “substantially similar to Charlottesville”. And I’m certainly not conducting legal research for you for free – $500/hr might convince me.

    And you are simply again demonstrating that you have not even the slightest clue what “sovereign immunity” means. There is no sovereign immunity for violating constitutional rights. As to your point about a “blue wall” and the like, as I noted, with my references, police lose these cases all the time. One example: Abner Louima. Yeah, it’s hard to win cases against any large, well-funded organization. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with “sovereign immunity”.

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    {Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite, I understand. No worries. You made a claim about “sovereign immunity”, which I easily debunked. End of story.}

    You debunked nothing.
    And reading comprehension isn't your strong suit: accept it and live with it.
    It's OK. Tomorrow is another day.

    {And you are simply again demonstrating that you have not even the slightest clue what “sovereign immunity” means. }

    I am pretty sure I have a clue and I am pretty sure you don't.
  175. Sam Shama says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I would agree that PG got very close to unambiguously accusing them of blackmail but I don't think the word "dossier" is the key to that. The info that all political parties, including video and audio clips, transcripts of interviews and voting records could properly be described as dossiers. Mind you slips in the voting record could be just as good for blackmail (non-technical sense) as slips in the mistress's bathroom.

    Agreed. I suppose one might call “dossier” records such as those you mention regarding Congressmen; yet here, the dossiers were asserted to be on columnists and commentators as well – many of the latter no more significant than feral animals really, ones which choose boorish uninvited responses to our posts. I hardly believe ADL has any worse items on its agenda than keeping dossiers on crotchety old bus drivers or inconsequential and hysterical ne’er-do-wells.

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  176. CalDre says:
    @Avery
    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    And _you_ did't give any relevant examples: just a bunch of cases that had the string “42 USC 1983″ in them. Totally irrelevant to Charlottesville, as I showed you with one case from _your_ list about a prisoner. Anybody can throw a string at Google and then list the results: useless.
    Waste of time.

    The “sovereign immunity” clause is applicable, because you (i.e. the plaintiff) will be arguing that the State, or the City, or the Police should or should not have done something or other.
    It won't go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of "experts" will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
    And the fact that some cop said this or that is immaterial: for every cop that says something against the City, the City will bring dozens of cops of all levels to debunk them.

    And how many cops do you think will risk their careers to testify on behalf of people who have already been painted as 'Nazis', 'White Supremacists', 'KKK' ?

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.


    btw: the State is already going after at least one guy from the so-called "Alt-right".
    (Guess why)
    An arrest warrant has been issued for one Cantwell. The warrant is for two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of "malicious bodily injury by means of any caustic substance or agent,"

    Cantwell is a revolting narcissist with absolutely no redeeming quality, probably an agent (as I refuse to believe a genuine person could be such a total POS). And the sooner he gets as far away from being presented as in any way representing anything other than the CIA, George Soros or his pathetic self, the better. In the event he actually is independent, the Globalists could not dream up a better “opponent”.

    His arrest warrant doesn’t prove a thing. Could be the CIA trying to improve his street creds (seems the charge is rather baseless). But no matter what, he is a pathetic POS.

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  177. fnn says:
    @Avery
    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.

    And _you_ did't give any relevant examples: just a bunch of cases that had the string “42 USC 1983″ in them. Totally irrelevant to Charlottesville, as I showed you with one case from _your_ list about a prisoner. Anybody can throw a string at Google and then list the results: useless.
    Waste of time.

    The “sovereign immunity” clause is applicable, because you (i.e. the plaintiff) will be arguing that the State, or the City, or the Police should or should not have done something or other.
    It won't go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of "experts" will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
    And the fact that some cop said this or that is immaterial: for every cop that says something against the City, the City will bring dozens of cops of all levels to debunk them.

    And how many cops do you think will risk their careers to testify on behalf of people who have already been painted as 'Nazis', 'White Supremacists', 'KKK' ?

    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.


    btw: the State is already going after at least one guy from the so-called "Alt-right".
    (Guess why)
    An arrest warrant has been issued for one Cantwell. The warrant is for two counts of illegal use of tear gas and one count of "malicious bodily injury by means of any caustic substance or agent,"

    It won’t go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of “experts” will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.

    That would take quite a bit of twisted Talmudic reasoning given that the fuzz did precisely the opposite. But I defer to your superior knowledge.

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    { But I defer to your superior knowledge.}

    I wouldn't know what 'Talmudic reasoning' means: I am of Armenian ancestry, Armenian Apostolic Christian Church. As far removed from Talmud as one can get.

    And I have no superior knowledge.
    I have lived in US many years and have a habit of following and studying these types of things.
    My knowledge, if any, comes from observing how the US in-Justice system works in actuality vs what many (most?) people think how it works in theory or how it should work.
  178. Mr. Giraldi, I’m a huge fan of your articles and I had personally hoped that the president would have appointed you as director of the CIA with the express orders to clean it up. I’ve always been drawn to your use of humor in your articles, and I am a proud African American who was drawn to your articles because you shared many of my opinions on the Obama presidency. I liked the way you published your thoughts on his presidency without resulting in name calling and trying to diminish his presidency because of race(much respect). I write this article however saddened by your closing sentence. I’m in agreement with most of your article and point of view. I think you drove home your point. As you well know there’s much more to domestic and racial politics in America. I wish you would have left the Tubman quote out of the article, I do understand your frustration. In the future I hope you stay the class act you have been so far, even if I disagree with your arguments. I would love to continue to read your articles.

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  179. @Not Bob
    Haven't read Locke.

    Voltaire it seems, like Hillary Clinton, had different "public and private" positions. In his private writings, Enlightenment was possible only for his wealthy white male friends. Black men were referred to as "les animaux negres", able to talk but barely able to think. Women (and peasants) did not fare much better in his opinion. Never mind Jews.

    In his basically brown-nosing letters to the nobilty of Europe, he displayed his contempt for the deplorables, and talked about the necessity of lying to create the public persona of the Great Humanist, epecially the use of the Big Lie, repeated often.

    This attitude was not exclusive to Voltaire. In the earliest editions of L' Encyclopedie the articles about Humanism, Diderot, et al, included this kind of thing. For example, an article on Africa from that period (1750's) describes the natives as having little in the way of thoughts, and Benin and Angola as a good sources for gold, Blacks, and other commodities.

    If you read French, I refer you to Xavier Martin's "Naissance du sous-homme au coeur des Lumieres". The "high ideals" were promoted by cynical pretenders, mostly for their own financial and public benefit. If Voltaire's private views were more available today, he would be vilified as racist, misogynist, anti-Semitic, go down the list. Instead, he is in the Pantheon. Propaganda does work.

    I understand that the ideals themselves can be separated from the writers, and am not commenting on the application, benefits, demerits or possible "cherry picking" of those ideals. But it can be shown that the "originators" of these ideals did not, in fact, believe they should or could be applied to everyone. They were just like "public thinkers" of our time who are mostly interested in advancing their bank accounts.

    Locke here (brown nosing was the norm of the day)

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/03/john-locke/

    The ‘pantheon’

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/06/perverts-of-western-philosophy/

    My favorite going to today’s ‘ethical’ theory:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/06/david-hume/

    The main (shared) characteristic of the ‘age of enlightenment’ philosophers seems to have been complicated circumlocutions intended to bury the inherent contradictions in their positions -

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  180. @Ron Unz
    I left this comment on Steve blog, but it's actually even more appropriate here...

    The America’s Great Diversitarian Cultural Revolution has finally reached California!

    The front-page of this morning’s SF Chronicle carried a big story about a new drive being launched in San Francisco to cleanse the city and probably the entire state of any memorials to vile Spanish heritage:

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/SF-is-facing-its-own-battle-over-controversial-11948403.php

    Presumably, all the names of the major cities like SF, Los Angeles, San Diego, and San Jose will be changed to less triggering names such as Quetzalcoatl or Lumumba or Malcolm X. I’d assume that all the surviving missions will also need to be knocked down or converted into Holocaust Memorials.

    After all, the Spaniards were almost as evil as the Nazis or the Confederates…

    I’d be up for rewriting-strengthening a history of the Spanish missions, e.g. they could rename Carmel by the Sea ‘Misión de los pedófilos’ for a recent Catholic saint:

    https://ronaldthomaswest.com/2015/04/22/junipero-serra/

    Not really pc though ;)

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  181. @Sam Shama
    This is nothing more than a description of a partner-competitor dynamic between the allied intelligence agencies; a state of affairs which has always existed, between US/European, US/Far Eastern and US/ME allied services. To say nothing of the strict constitutional protections not discarded; it strengthens not a bit the highly speculative and libellous charge you make without evidence - of Congressmen being blackmailed.

    Can you point to the equivalent completeness of unfiltered coverage and reliance on undertakings amongst the Five Eyes countries?

    On the face of it, unless the arrangement with Israel is just boilerplate wording I would regard it as naive to believe that one of DC’s most powerful lobbies doesn’t use it to control USG people found to have dirty secrets. Why wouldn’t they?

    If it is just boilerplate and there is no real likelihood of misuse of SIGINT it is probably because of something we don’t know about the whole operation; e.g. what is collected, or some sort of regular checking for embarrassing material which may have been picked up because of lack of realtime filtering and which is somehow neutralised.

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    What compromising material spy agencies use against public officials of both friendly and unfriendly nations I shall leave for our imaginations. On the level of sharing with Five Eyes? But of course! It is an intelligence sharing pact most sweeping in scope. Please do read Ed Snowden's interview which follows, where he says [more to follow later in this post] .

    SNOWDEN: "In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK's General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has a system called TEMPORA. TEMPORA is the signals intelligence community's first "full-take" Internet buffer that doesn't care about content type and pays only marginal attention to the Human Rights Act. It snarfs everything, in a rolling buffer to allow retroactive investigation without missing a single bit. Right now the buffer can hold three days of traffic, but that's being improved. Three days may not sound like much, but remember that that's not metadata. "Full-take" means it doesn't miss anything, and ingests the entirety of each circuit's capacity. If you send a single ICMP packet and it routes through the UK, we get it. If you download something and the CDN (Content Delivery Network) happens to serve from the UK, we get it. If your sick daughter's medical records get processed at a London call center … well, you get the idea.
     
    Hereafter, for those unfamiliar with Five Eyes, are a series of blockquotes to put a bit of perspective on the complete, unfiltered intelligence sharing, snooping, etc. practiced by these intelligence agencies. Israel more recently co-operates with NSA pretty extensively, e.g., Stuxnet was co-written by Isr8200/ and NSA.

    The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence. In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on spying.[8]

    As the surveillance capabilities of the FVEY continue to increase to keep up to pace with technological advancements, a global surveillance system has been gradually developed to capture the communications of entire populations across national borders.[9] The following list contains a handful of targets of the FVEY who are public figures in various fields. In order for a person to be included in the list, there must be well-documented evidence based on reliable sources, such as leaked or declassified FVEY documents or whistleblower accounts, which demonstrate that the person involved is, or was, intentionally targeted for surveillance.

     

    Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain "some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets".[Wiki]

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/navy-spy-probe-kept-military-in-dark-documents-1.1856151

    Rob Gordon. "Navy spy probe kept military in dark: documents". Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 20 October 2013. The military's fears were well-founded, given Delisle had access to terabytes of some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets. He operated a computer system called Stone Ghost, which links the intelligence services of the Five Eyes: the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

     

    Here is Snowden's interview with Spiegel:

    In an interview released this week, Mr. Snowden said that Germany’s intelligence services are “in bed” with the National Security Agency, “the same as with most other Western countries.” The assertion has added to fresh scrutiny in the European news media of Berlin and other European governments that may have benefited from the enormous American snooping program known as Prism, or conducted wide-ranging surveillance operations of their own.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edward-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/world/europe/for-western-allies-a-long-history-of-swapping-intelligence.html

     

    The UKUSA Agreement born of the Cold War period is the most expansive in its class. Here is the link from National Archives:
    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/

    The scope and language guiding these agreements which filtered through to FiveEyes and subsequently to certain Asian and Nordic countries are simply unparalleled.

    Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973, and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005. On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online. Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War's most important documents, with immense historical significance. [Wiki]

    The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/world-signals-intelligence-and-gcsb-context-ns-129503

  182. @iffen
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state? After all Tony Judt was one of those.

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    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state?

    I don’t consider myself as having a dog in the fight except as it spills over into the foreign policy of the US. The Israelis can do as they please with regard to the Jewishness question (problem). I would be a little perturbed considering all the human suffering that has gone into its creation. I have the same feelings toward Germany and some of the other European states. Millions died and suffered and endured forced migrations into order to get to some semblance of ethnic nation states and now they are haphazardly destroying the whole project.

    Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.
  183. @Jake
    No, the rise of the 'bohemian class' was not by Jews. The first feminist conference was a 100% WASP thing. No Jews, no Irish or Italians or Poles or Russians. 100% WASP.

    Abolitionism likewise was not a Jewish thing. Abolitionism was a WASP thing. It wasn't Jews in the 1850s talking about the need to slaughter large numbers of whites to uplift the Negro; it was WASPs.

    The Revolution against Western Civilization began with the Reformation, which required people to despise most of the past 1500 years of European history. The justification for the revolution was that the Church for 1500 years was wrong about everything important, which necessarily means that all prior culture was at best suspect and easily dismissible. The most fervent Protestants produced groups that quickly became anti-intellectual and anti-high culture, for those things were Catholic.

    For the Reformation to justify itself, it always had to denigrate almost all of 1500 years of European culture.

    And yes, Jews did play a major role in that. Jews often printed Protestant broadsides, sometimes at cost and many times are minimal profit. Many Jews did see the Reformation as ideal for Jews.

    Specific to our world, Anglo-Saxon Puritianism was a Judaizing heresy, and as soon as Cromwell gained control of government and beheaded the king, he made alliance with Jews, taking their money in loans and allowing Jews back into England. Cromwell allied the WASP Elites with Jews against the vast majority of the natives of the British Isles.

    All Anglophone history has been the playing out of the implications of that deal.

    Post WW2, Jews began to take control of that partnership. But the senior partner who started the firm is the WASP.

    I think you have tossed this off from imperfect memory flavoured by preconception. This thought became hard to resist when you wrote “as soon as Cromwell gained control of the government [scil.1649] …. he made alliance with the Jews….allowing the Jews back into England”. The Jews (apart from Crypto Jews, see link below) were – quite informally only – allowed back into England about September 1956. Cromwell died in September 1958.

    See http://www.fupress.net/index.php/cromohs/article/view/13673/12738

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    My dad knew Cromwell and took me along to see him in hospital shortly before he died, I think that was during the summer of 1958. I was quite small of course and don't remember very much. I thought he seemed quite a nice old fellow but dad later referred to him as God's Executioner and, as you can imagine, that was very confusing for a child.
  184. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Talleyrand
    Blood and Soil (really?!) Well silly me. I thought it was a reference to Spengler's The Decline of the West because Spengler came real close to nailing it.

    I doubt that many of the torch bearers have read that book (nor have I), but my point is that the video of the Friday night march looks staged. Several others here have agreed.

    Do you have any opinion about that?

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  185. geokat62 says:

    This is nothing more than a description of a partner-competitor dynamic between the allied intelligence agencies

    Dissembling 24/7. Looking forward to your response to Wiz’s query in #186. Unfortunately, I anticipate more dissembling.

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  186. @jack ryan
    Yeah, maybe some. But, almost all of this was done by corrupt, lying folks in Virginia state and local. The Virginia governor and the (J tribe) Charlottesville VA mayor openly worked to deny the UnitetheRight their legal right to demonstrate in Lee Park/Emancipation Park and the local police and state national guard force the UnitetheRight Demonstrates to exit the park to be attacked by massed mobs of Antifa/BlackLivesMatter mobs. This was deliberate. So it wasn't all some Federal conspiracy in the Trump administration.

    These college towns like Charlottesville VA or Durham (Duke) N.C. have been taken over politically and in the faculty by hard core Leftists, anti Whites - the wealthy alumni of these once solid Conservative Southern colleges generally doesn't care as long as the basketball teams do well and the College rankings stay high (rankings done by Harvard and Yale type academics).

    I know the score as I went to the former Southern Conservatives University of Vanderbilt University in Nashville TN. Vanderbilt now has a J tribe Chancellor Nicholas Zeppos who was a former Leftist Law professor at the University of Wisconsin Madison - the same college town that now has an openly Castro Communist mayor who just ripped out Confederate grave stones outside of Madison.

    I also attended Vanderbilt University (in the 80′s) and have witnessed the descent into its current state of diversity worshipping, politically correct admission policies. I know of several fellow alums whose children were denied admission despite academic records that should have easily merited acceptance. This has been a great disappointment to many families. One good friend, after two of his children were denied admission said to me, “I enjoyed my time at Vanderbilt, but the school is dead to me.”

    Not so ironically, Vanderbilt was ahead of the curve in regards to the hysteria over removing any symbols of or any commemoration of the Old South. A building on the school’s Peabody School of Education campus was known as Confederate Memorial Hall. It’s now known as Memorial Hall. Seems as if the diversity was offended, and “Confederate” had to be chiseled into oblivion. This happened a few years ago.

    My question now is: Where will the line be drawn? And more importantly, by whom?

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  187. Skeptikal says:
    @Sam Shama
    Should we be upset His Majesty's Govt of the period, pushed aside the Turks and Arabs from inheriting all of the Middle East? After all haven't we noticed what superb nation builders Arabs have been during the period since?

    My main point was this:
    “Yes, it is decidedly interesting and worth noting how the concepts such as nationalism change their spots. What is right and good in one era suddenly becomes evil in the next. I guess it all depends on how the elites see their bread buttered. ”

    The rest of my post was more or less meant as an example of changes in how empires/nations were/are viewed. (As an advocate of Palestinian rights, I just stuck in a few points on that situ.)

    My info on the Ottoman Empire was meant as an addendum to the point about the Hapsburg Empire made in the previously linked post, by Dykstra. Then, the breakup of empire and creation of nations; now, the suppression of nations/sovereignty in favor of “empire” (EU; USA empire).

    Of course #1 it is quite possible, if not probable, that the idea then was that nations would be easier to control than empires, no matter how shambolic. Of course #2, shambolic empires are/were veerrrry tempting to other empire builders, including their corporate “nations” such as the Anglo-Persian Oil Co. and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. (a.k.a. British Petroleum).

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  188. @Sam Shama
    This is nothing more than a description of a partner-competitor dynamic between the allied intelligence agencies; a state of affairs which has always existed, between US/European, US/Far Eastern and US/ME allied services. To say nothing of the strict constitutional protections not discarded; it strengthens not a bit the highly speculative and libellous charge you make without evidence - of Congressmen being blackmailed.

    Hey Sam the Sham,

    As you know, AIPAC takes possession of U.S. Congress by the implementation of a fiendish business plan that is on record in The Book of Genesis, Chapter 3.

    To plain spokenly summarize the matter, AIPAC’s perpetual covenant with ambitious Congressmen is this: Eat from The Lobby vine and you are mine!

    People like ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney refused and she was dispatched to ZUSA’s paradise-in-reverse “garden” door.

    Post scriptum to geokat: Having foolishly launched a libel charge against you, the Shammy has demonstrated his affinity for the ancient “Serpent” modus operandi.

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    Hello Woodchuck,
    What a pleasure! Has the Dunkin Donuts club expanded since we last spoke? Members sound in body and mind I trust? Excellent. Now keep those children safe during your afternoon runs, Chucky. Final word; limit yourself to no more than three of the establishment's offerings per shift.

    Cheers
  189. @Corvinus
    "The author of the Saudi piece: “Neil Bunting, the author of this article, with his wife Wija”

    So? How has his decision personally affected your life?

    "LOL. Are you another rather wimpy looking westerner who found love elsewhere, Corvinus?"

    First, my bride is American. Second, you do realize that you just dissed Derbyshire, an Alt Right hero, with your comment. Third, you assume that it is other than manly for a man of the West to marry outside of their race and/or culture. Finally, your ignorance is telling.

    Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care, but you’re the cuck, not me. And interesting you’d hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a “hero” of the alt-Right.

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    "Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care..."

    Yes, my wife is white. And you do care since you asked and have this obsession with me.

    "but you’re the cuck, not me."

    Meaningless term.

    "And interesting you’d hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a “hero” of the alt-Right."

    The Alt-Right, not I, hails him as a hero. Do you not realize his clout within the Alt-Right?
  190. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama
    [some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.]

    Yes, I can see it as well. Note nevertheless, around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries who found sanctuary in Israel.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

    around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries

    Yes, I can see the injustice done to both ME Jews and Palestinians. The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.

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    [The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.]

    Yes, true. The nation needed to be created and an unplanned population transfer occurred.
  191. iffen says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state? After all Tony Judt was one of those.

    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state?

    I don’t consider myself as having a dog in the fight except as it spills over into the foreign policy of the US. The Israelis can do as they please with regard to the Jewishness question (problem). I would be a little perturbed considering all the human suffering that has gone into its creation. I have the same feelings toward Germany and some of the other European states. Millions died and suffered and endured forced migrations into order to get to some semblance of ethnic nation states and now they are haphazardly destroying the whole project.

    Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.

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    [Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.]

    Well, human suffering has been as much a constant as time has been inconstant. For those with a certain burr under their saddles, this is all they need know to render that burr nonirritating. Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions. It is country formed explicitly to offer sanctuary to Jews escaping persecution. While there is little of it today, now it but a moment in time. An issue to be cognizant of is population density.
  192. KenH says:

    White supremacist and Nazi is a loaded term that just means any white person who doesn’t despise their own race and heritage and welcome the prospect of dispossession and genocide. Therefore, if the “white supremacists” at the Unite the Right rally are guilty of anything it was believing that they can advocate for their racial interests like every non-white groups is allowed and encouraged to do by the (((media))) and government.

    The Unite the Right applied for and received a permit from the city of Charlottesville, worked with the city authorities and took every precaution necessary to ensure it was a peaceful rally. They did everything right. The city reneged on the deal then forced the rally goers to walk through a gauntlet of violent antifa counter protesters which forced rally goers to protect themselves which the media spin doctors made into “Nazi violence” in keeping with the template.

    My takeaways are:
    1) Since the (((establishment))) can’t circumscribe the first amendment or legally intimidate people who express non-PC opinions, they’ve outsourced tyranny and thuggery of speech transgressors to antifa and other left wing groups. We’re now ruled by the left wing mob and heckler’s veto.
    2) Increasingly, the police will not protect the lives and property of white people who are known to hold non-PC and “white supremacist opinions”. This is especially true in blue states and cities run by ultra leftists.
    3) A Nazi and white supremacist is anyone to the right of Barack Hussein Obama.
    4) Antifa claims to reject racial supremacy but is aligned with black supremacy groups like BLM and never disrupts meetings or rallies by La Raza, NAACP or Nation of Islam.
    5) Antifa claims to oppose Nazism because of its record of murder,but subscribes to an ideology (Marxism/communism) that has murdered 100 million vs the alleged 6 million by the Nazis.
    6) Pro-white websites and opinion get demonetized or deplatformed based on the flimsiest of pretexts. BLM and websites spewing hatred towards whites or celebrating the violence against police, Republicans and “white supremacists” are untouched.

    Non-whites and self hating whites still live in America where their rights are scrupulously protected and defended. Non-PC whites now live in the Soviet Union where they can have their lives and livelihoods destroyed or have their websites deplatformed and demonetized for expressing opinions on multiculturalism that is out of step with the Jewish power structure and their shabbos goy stooges in government.

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    On Antifa's hypocrisy/dishonesty on race, you could also add that they are silent on Israel and Zionism (although like most left-wing groups you can probably find some isolated pro-Palestinian factions).
  193. Corvinus says:
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care, but you're the cuck, not me. And interesting you'd hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a "hero" of the alt-Right.

    “Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care…”

    Yes, my wife is white. And you do care since you asked and have this obsession with me.

    “but you’re the cuck, not me.”

    Meaningless term.

    “And interesting you’d hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a “hero” of the alt-Right.”

    The Alt-Right, not I, hails him as a hero. Do you not realize his clout within the Alt-Right?

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    Cuck is entirely meaningful and utterly appropriate in your case. You are white (or claim to be) but regularly call out any criticism, however mild or reasonable, of non-whites, esp. Jews. These are groups which collectively NEVER offer any such reciprocity to mis-placed white altruism. Why you go to bat for them here is mystifying. It is one thing to be fair-minded, quite another to take turning-the-other-cheek as an act of moral imperative. That's the essence of cuckoldry. (You also insinuate that posters here should take some sort of "action" which is likely to lead to their arrest, not sure what your agenda there is.)

    Re. Derb, I suppose he's the media's favorite alt-rightist since he's pro-Israel (like Bannon, BTW). The rank-and-file know he's unreliable, at best. (Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't write interesting stuff from time to time, Unz (to his great credit) offers a wide range of viewpoints here.)
  194. Bogart says:
    @CalDre
    Great points.

    But not complete without mentioning that the Oligarch Media translated Trump repeatedly condemning neo-Nazis, KKK, racism and bigotry but saying there were "good and bad people on both sides" into "Trump endorses Adolph Hitler and mournfully laments the defeat of Nazism in 1945".

    Because not only do you deserve state-sanctioned (and Oligarch Media incited) violence if you have an opinion the Oligarch Media finds odious (read: challenges the Oligarch's grasp on power), you deserve death even if you knowingly associate with them. There can be no "good person" marching with a KKK member in opposition to a political decision.

    Let's call out ANTIFA for what it is - neo-Bolshevism, in all its essential tenets. It is still the Communists who claim to be "anti-fascist", as if somehow that exonerates them from their own wrongdoings (which in many respects exceed those of "fascists" and certainly those of "neo-Nazis", who AFAICT haven't committed any major physical crimes) in an "ends-justify-the-means" type of justification (spoiler alert: the ends are the same as the means).

    This isn’t “Neo-Bolshevism” but just plain Bolshevism. And the Nazi Brown Shirts were based upon the Bolsheviks. The worst part is that Stalin flipped his propaganda to be more like the Nazis and their “National” component versus the Bolshevik “International/Class” component.

    And the insanity of things like this fellow Robert Lee being reassigned only goes to show how far the West has fallen.

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    For your information, the Brown Shirts were recruited by Adolph Hitler and welded into an effective fighting force to physically confront and defeat Communist thugs who showed-up at all his public speaking engagements to disrupt and shout him down. I suggest anyone interested in gaining and insight as to what actually transpired at Charlottesville (particularly relating to the disruptive tactics employed by ANTIFA thugs) read the book, Mein Kampf. It's an eye-opener to say the least.
  195. @KenH
    White supremacist and Nazi is a loaded term that just means any white person who doesn't despise their own race and heritage and welcome the prospect of dispossession and genocide. Therefore, if the "white supremacists" at the Unite the Right rally are guilty of anything it was believing that they can advocate for their racial interests like every non-white groups is allowed and encouraged to do by the (((media))) and government.

    The Unite the Right applied for and received a permit from the city of Charlottesville, worked with the city authorities and took every precaution necessary to ensure it was a peaceful rally. They did everything right. The city reneged on the deal then forced the rally goers to walk through a gauntlet of violent antifa counter protesters which forced rally goers to protect themselves which the media spin doctors made into "Nazi violence" in keeping with the template.

    My takeaways are:
    1) Since the (((establishment))) can't circumscribe the first amendment or legally intimidate people who express non-PC opinions, they've outsourced tyranny and thuggery of speech transgressors to antifa and other left wing groups. We're now ruled by the left wing mob and heckler's veto.
    2) Increasingly, the police will not protect the lives and property of white people who are known to hold non-PC and "white supremacist opinions". This is especially true in blue states and cities run by ultra leftists.
    3) A Nazi and white supremacist is anyone to the right of Barack Hussein Obama.
    4) Antifa claims to reject racial supremacy but is aligned with black supremacy groups like BLM and never disrupts meetings or rallies by La Raza, NAACP or Nation of Islam.
    5) Antifa claims to oppose Nazism because of its record of murder,but subscribes to an ideology (Marxism/communism) that has murdered 100 million vs the alleged 6 million by the Nazis.
    6) Pro-white websites and opinion get demonetized or deplatformed based on the flimsiest of pretexts. BLM and websites spewing hatred towards whites or celebrating the violence against police, Republicans and "white supremacists" are untouched.

    Non-whites and self hating whites still live in America where their rights are scrupulously protected and defended. Non-PC whites now live in the Soviet Union where they can have their lives and livelihoods destroyed or have their websites deplatformed and demonetized for expressing opinions on multiculturalism that is out of step with the Jewish power structure and their shabbos goy stooges in government.

    On Antifa’s hypocrisy/dishonesty on race, you could also add that they are silent on Israel and Zionism (although like most left-wing groups you can probably find some isolated pro-Palestinian factions).

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    • Replies: @Anon
    You don't know what you're talking about. Most Antifa folks are very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and unembarrassed to say so.
  196. Sam Shama says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Can you point to the equivalent completeness of unfiltered coverage and reliance on undertakings amongst the Five Eyes countries?

    On the face of it, unless the arrangement with Israel is just boilerplate wording I would regard it as naive to believe that one of DC's most powerful lobbies doesn't use it to control USG people found to have dirty secrets. Why wouldn't they?

    If it is just boilerplate and there is no real likelihood of misuse of SIGINT it is probably because of something we don't know about the whole operation; e.g. what is collected, or some sort of regular checking for embarrassing material which may have been picked up because of lack of realtime filtering and which is somehow neutralised.

    What compromising material spy agencies use against public officials of both friendly and unfriendly nations I shall leave for our imaginations. On the level of sharing with Five Eyes? But of course! It is an intelligence sharing pact most sweeping in scope. Please do read Ed Snowden’s interview which follows, where he says [more to follow later in this post] .

    SNOWDEN: “In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK’s General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has a system called TEMPORA. TEMPORA is the signals intelligence community’s first “full-take” Internet buffer that doesn’t care about content type and pays only marginal attention to the Human Rights Act. It snarfs everything, in a rolling buffer to allow retroactive investigation without missing a single bit. Right now the buffer can hold three days of traffic, but that’s being improved. Three days may not sound like much, but remember that that’s not metadata. “Full-take” means it doesn’t miss anything, and ingests the entirety of each circuit’s capacity. If you send a single ICMP packet and it routes through the UK, we get it. If you download something and the CDN (Content Delivery Network) happens to serve from the UK, we get it. If your sick daughter’s medical records get processed at a London call center … well, you get the idea.

    Hereafter, for those unfamiliar with Five Eyes, are a series of blockquotes to put a bit of perspective on the complete, unfiltered intelligence sharing, snooping, etc. practiced by these intelligence agencies. Israel more recently co-operates with NSA pretty extensively, e.g., Stuxnet was co-written by Isr8200/ and NSA.

    The “Five Eyes” (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence. In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another’s citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on spying.[8]

    As the surveillance capabilities of the FVEY continue to increase to keep up to pace with technological advancements, a global surveillance system has been gradually developed to capture the communications of entire populations across national borders.[9] The following list contains a handful of targets of the FVEY who are public figures in various fields. In order for a person to be included in the list, there must be well-documented evidence based on reliable sources, such as leaked or declassified FVEY documents or whistleblower accounts, which demonstrate that the person involved is, or was, intentionally targeted for surveillance.

    Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain “some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets“.[Wiki]

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/navy-spy-probe-kept-military-in-dark-documents-1.1856151

    Rob Gordon. “Navy spy probe kept military in dark: documents”. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 20 October 2013. The military’s fears were well-founded, given Delisle had access to terabytes of some of the Western world’s most closely guarded secrets. He operated a computer system called Stone Ghost, which links the intelligence services of the Five Eyes: the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    Here is Snowden’s interview with Spiegel:

    In an interview released this week, Mr. Snowden said that Germany’s intelligence services are “in bed” with the National Security Agency, “the same as with most other Western countries.” The assertion has added to fresh scrutiny in the European news media of Berlin and other European governments that may have benefited from the enormous American snooping program known as Prism, or conducted wide-ranging surveillance operations of their own.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edward-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/world/europe/for-western-allies-a-long-history-of-swapping-intelligence.html

    The UKUSA Agreement born of the Cold War period is the most expansive in its class. Here is the link from National Archives:

    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/

    The scope and language guiding these agreements which filtered through to FiveEyes and subsequently to certain Asian and Nordic countries are simply unparalleled.

    Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973, and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005. On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online. Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War’s most important documents, with immense historical significance. [Wiki]

    The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.

    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/world-signals-intelligence-and-gcsb-context-ns-129503

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    Complementary information:




    echelon-ep-fin.htm European Parliament Final Report on Echelon September 7, 2001
    echelon-090501.htm European Commission Resolution on Echelon September 6, 2001

    https://cryptome.org/cryptome-2001.htm
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Thanks. There's a lot to re-read there. Like Snowden himself, and Manning, it suggests thst there are all sorts of possibilities for stealing and giving or selling damaging material to blackmailers.

    You wouldn't really be surprised if AIPAC - or maybe a grizzled Old Turk working at AIPAC - used embarrassing information about someone in Congress or Administration to keep him in line would you?
  197. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    What about opposition to Israel remaining permanently as a Jewish state?

    I don’t consider myself as having a dog in the fight except as it spills over into the foreign policy of the US. The Israelis can do as they please with regard to the Jewishness question (problem). I would be a little perturbed considering all the human suffering that has gone into its creation. I have the same feelings toward Germany and some of the other European states. Millions died and suffered and endured forced migrations into order to get to some semblance of ethnic nation states and now they are haphazardly destroying the whole project.

    Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.

    [Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.]

    Well, human suffering has been as much a constant as time has been inconstant. For those with a certain burr under their saddles, this is all they need know to render that burr nonirritating. Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions. It is country formed explicitly to offer sanctuary to Jews escaping persecution. While there is little of it today, now it but a moment in time. An issue to be cognizant of is population density.

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    Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions.

    True, but in my opinion it is a Jewish state, regardless of whether some right wing political group in Israel gets that written into law or not. You can argue the point with the detractors and claim that diversity in Israel is the same as the push for globalism in the US and Europe if you want. I don't see it as making any difference to my opinion of the matter. My simplistic view is that Zionism is a form of nationalism and all nationalisms should get examined by the same standards.

    , @CalDre
    I think you missed the point about the hypocrisy, which can be explained best by combining with the other observations that Jews (as a tribe) seek to rule the world with Jerusalem as their global headquarters.
  198. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    around 800k Middle Eastern Jews were driven from Arab countries

    Yes, I can see the injustice done to both ME Jews and Palestinians. The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.

    [The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.]

    Yes, true. The nation needed to be created and an unplanned population transfer occurred.

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    Well, Sam, it appears you have emerged as quite the practiced advocate from your sojourn to observe "the summer rituals" on Cape Cod. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975939


    I do hope you still feel inclined -- "obligated" was your term -- to respond to my queries of Aug 19
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975119

    Please explain how you define “the virus of Nazism.”
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics — Who did what to whom, when and why — define the “virus of Nazism,” s’il vous plait.
     
    Thanks in advance.

    Y'r ob'd servant
    StC
    , @RobinG
    "...... an unplanned population transfer occurred."

    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before "Israel" was created. Maybe GeoKat has the quotation of the early Zionists at his fingertips.
  199. Sam Shama says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Hey Sam the Sham,

    As you know, AIPAC takes possession of U.S. Congress by the implementation of a fiendish business plan that is on record in The Book of Genesis, Chapter 3.

    To plain spokenly summarize the matter, AIPAC's perpetual covenant with ambitious Congressmen is this: Eat from The Lobby vine and you are mine!

    People like ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney refused and she was dispatched to ZUSA's paradise-in-reverse "garden" door.

    Post scriptum to geokat: Having foolishly launched a libel charge against you, the Shammy has demonstrated his affinity for the ancient "Serpent" modus operandi.

    Hello Woodchuck,
    What a pleasure! Has the Dunkin Donuts club expanded since we last spoke? Members sound in body and mind I trust? Excellent. Now keep those children safe during your afternoon runs, Chucky. Final word; limit yourself to no more than three of the establishment’s offerings per shift.

    Cheers

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  200. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama
    [Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.]

    Well, human suffering has been as much a constant as time has been inconstant. For those with a certain burr under their saddles, this is all they need know to render that burr nonirritating. Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions. It is country formed explicitly to offer sanctuary to Jews escaping persecution. While there is little of it today, now it but a moment in time. An issue to be cognizant of is population density.

    Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions.

    True, but in my opinion it is a Jewish state, regardless of whether some right wing political group in Israel gets that written into law or not. You can argue the point with the detractors and claim that diversity in Israel is the same as the push for globalism in the US and Europe if you want. I don’t see it as making any difference to my opinion of the matter. My simplistic view is that Zionism is a form of nationalism and all nationalisms should get examined by the same standards.

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    The situation in present-day Israel would make an old advocate of "Jim Crow" legislation proud. There are separate roads for Jews and Arabs. Quite often, the Arab roads are substandard, with arbitrary blockades and checkpoints. Even automobile license plates are identified by ethnicity.
    Try walking certain Israeli city streets wearing a crucifix or other means of identifying as a Christian. You may be spat on, criticized, or shunned (given the "evil eye") by jews. Israel's Arabs are much more respectful and accommodating of Christians than Jews.
    Now if you are one of Hagee's "Christian shills for Israel", you will be carefully guarded from such behavior.
    , @Sam Shama
    I am myself a nationalist. There are qualifications each citizen must fulfill. There are limits to what has been termed globalism. If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce, exchange of ideas etc. then I am against it.
  201. @Sam Shama
    [The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.]

    Yes, true. The nation needed to be created and an unplanned population transfer occurred.

    Well, Sam, it appears you have emerged as quite the practiced advocate from your sojourn to observe “the summer rituals” on Cape Cod. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975939

    I do hope you still feel inclined — “obligated” was your term — to respond to my queries of Aug 19

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975119

    Please explain how you define “the virus of Nazism.”
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics — Who did what to whom, when and why — define the “virus of Nazism,” s’il vous plait.

    Thanks in advance.

    Y’r ob’d servant
    StC

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    Oh, dash it! I thought I'd get a free pass to negotiate out of what is likely to be a post which requires more than the few minutes of thought typically expended on the other sundry rubbish. No; that is not to be. Well, I shall be back S2C, sacrificing my customary Cape afternoon of masterly inactivity.
    , @Sam Shama
    Hello S2C:
    Here we are, once again labouring in service of a topic we've seen hung drawn and quartered on these pages. I considered remaining silent; on a subject which surely tests our will to Truth, such as we sculpt it, and such perforce, with the promise of a rendezvous of familiar inquiries; niaiserie all mine?

    You ask me to write with moral clarity, with definitions and explanations; on Nazism and why I call it a virus. I do so for reasons, at least in part, to hold in view, then diminish if not destroy, Adolf Hitler's comparison of modern finance and capitalism to an infection on the body politic. He was deeply confused; a mind riven by thoughts and ideas far beyond the capacity given him by his maker who, in the privacy of his domain must've quietly chuckled at his own creation and the maelstrom he was about to unleash on all and sundry. Greek gods did not have anything on that maker and his ward; of Christ, the latter was not, nor of the G'd of Jews. [Save rumours about the Shicklegrubers which apparently sent Dolf on a path of fury; curious, as no harsher hands exist than those of self-loathing Jews beating their kin.]

    I say he was confused, not a conclusion derived chiefly from his actions, which were planned, thorough, devious, predictable if one reads history, but just as importantly from a study of the untidy blueprint he called his struggle, Mein Kampf. He did struggle to write it, that much is clear, if for no other exemplary and confused reason than an explicit adoption a method of subversion and subjugation of his people, facets of Marxism, which he hated!

    Marxism is to be despised; it is a pernicious doctrine all too vulnerable to, nay designed for, central totalitarianism. So, while the man hated Marxism he cherished its final outcome. Thus is Nazism like Marxism, a virus: designed to create havoc on the body it enters while leaving debilitation, destruction and weakness in its wake. It is a virus since the effects cannot remain in humanity, the host, for periods more than a few moments of time, absent a death of the host or of itself.

    Rhetorical arguments aside, one notes with a measure of clarity which you demanded, this recurrent theme in Germany's political ambitions, each one a child of the last, and each a study in how not to apply deviousness when dealing with an adversary superior in both political science and arms. Not to mention international code of conduct. Perhaps all of these are derived of morality, perhaps not; but I remain quite certain of the pitfalls of applying standards of personal morality to the questions of statecraft.

    Permit me to summon as protagonists, Thomas Babington Macaulay and G.K. Chesterton, great writers of the Victorian and the Georgian-Edwardian eras respectively; not merely to aid my meagre pen, but more as observers of a pattern of behaviour [of a virus?] so ably described in their essays. And of course, Shirer of whom and his book Hugh Trevor-Roper wrote ' The standard, indeed the classic, history of Nazism. We should be thankful to the historian whose solid work will permanently preserve the truth.’


    Here is Macaulay describing Frederick of Prussia, called Great, in his dealings with the Queen of Hungary, Maria Theresa, during the Seven Years War of 1756-1763.

    ...[ ] in the very act of pouring forth compliments and assurances of goodwill, Frederic commenced hostilities. Many thousands of his troops were actually in Silesia before the Queen of Hungary knew that he had set up any claim to any part of her territories. At length, he sent her a message which could be regarded only as an insult. If she would but let him have Silesia, he would, he said, stand by her against any power which should try to deprive her of her other dominions; as if he was not already bound to stand by her, or as if his new promise could be of more value than the old one.
    Had the Silesian question been merely a question between Frederic and Maria Theresa, it would be impossible to acquit the Prussian King of gross perfidy. But when we consider the effects which his policy produced, and could not fail to produce, on the whole community of civilized nations, we are compelled to pronounce a condemnation still more severe.
     
    Here is Chesterton on the barbarism of Berlin of WWI:

    Prussia, France, and England had all promised not to invade Belgium. Prussia proposed to invade Belgium, because it was the safest way of invading France. But Prussia promised that if she might break in, through her own broken promise and ours, she would break in and not steal. In other words, we were offered at the same instant a promise of faith in the future and a proposal of perjury in the present.

    One could make a kind of comic calendar of what would have happened to the English diplomatist, if he had been silenced every time by Prussian diplomacy. Suppose we arrange it in the form of a kind of diary:

    July 24: Germany invades Belgium.
    July 25: England declares war.
    July 26: Germany promises not to annex Belgium.
    July 27: England withdraws from the war.
    July 28: Germany annexes Belgium, England declares war.
    July 29: Germany promises not to annex France, England withdraws from the war. July 30: Germany annexes France, England declares war.
    July 31: Germany promises not to annex England.
    Aug. 1: England withdraws from the war. Germany invades England.

    How long is anybody expected to go on with that sort of game; or keep peace at that illimitable price? How long must we pursue a road in which promises are all fetishes in front of us; and all fragments behind us? No; upon the cold facts of the final negotiations, as told by any of the diplomatists in any of the documents, there is no doubt about the story. And no doubt about the villain of the story.

     

    Adolf's Road to War
    One might as Chesterton did, list a sequence of events, eerily resembling the behaviour of a cadre of diplomatists and politicians of the last war, falling prey to Hitler's guile:

    [based on Shirer]
    (i) Anschluss: February 12 and March 11 1938 " The Four Weeks’ Agony.” Since the Austro-German agreement of July 11, 1936, in which Schuschnigg, in a secret annex to the treaty, had made far-reaching concessions to the Austrian Nazis,∗ Franz von Papen, Hitler’s special ambassador in Vienna, had been continuing his labors to undermine the independence of Austria and bring about its union with Nazi Germany.

    Without firing a shot and without interference from Great Britain, France and Russia, whose military forces could have overwhelmed him, Hitler [..] gained a strategic position of immense value to his future plans. [...] he now possessed in Vienna the gateway to Southeast Europe.

    (ia) Protest and shock from von Neurath the foreign minister, Schacht, Blomberg upon learning Hitler's armed plans [on Austria and] Czechoslovakia. "I was extremely upset at Hitler’s speech,” he [von Neurath] later told the Nuremberg tribunal, "because it knocked the bottom out of the whole foreign policy which I had consistently pursued.” Generals Beck and von Fritsch were "shattered" [from Hossbach's diary]

    (ib) Protest from Britain? From Russia or France? None to speak of

    (ii) Sudetenland: Oct 1-Oct 10, 1938: The "peaceful annexation of Bohemia and Moravia". Protests? None, but followed by a profusion of solemn proclamations of the Munich Agreements.

    (iii) Munich Agreements signed Sep 29, 1938: Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Daladier sign the Munich Pact with Adolf Hitler. The agreement averted the outbreak of war but gave Czechoslovakia away to German conquest. No protests, but an AGREEMENT!

    (iv) March 1939: Remaining Czechoslovakia falls: Within ten days of affixing his signature to the Munich Agreement – before even the peaceful military occupation of the Sudetenland had been completed – Adolf Hitler got off an urgent top-secret message to General Keitel, Chief of OKW. It was to prepare for the rest of Czechoslovakia. Did Chamberlain and Daladier protest? No again, and this non-action following an agreement, in which the British and French governments undertook to lend the Czechoslovak government ₤8 million and make a gift of ₤4 million for resettlement!

    (v) Sep 1, 1939, Poland's Turn: Fall Weiss or Case White was the campaign to bring Poland under the Nazi jackboot. As well under the Russian Bear. On October 24, 1938, less than a month after Munich, Ribbentrop was host to Jozef Lipski, the Polish ambassador in Berlin, at a three-hour lunch at the Grand Hotel in Berchtesgaden. Poland, like Germany and indeed in connivance with her, had just seized a strip of Czech territory. It was necessary, first of all, [said Ribbentrop], ”to speak with Poland about Danzig.” It should ”revert” to Germany.

    So Poland, in this case, was given a concession of theft in the present followed by a demand for quid pro quo in the near future!

    Those were the acts of a clever but confused warlord. Yet why were Chamberlain, Daladier, Stalin and the rest of the European leadership blind to Adolf's actions? He might be blamed for many things, but not rendering in plain language [through his muddled blueprint], could not have been one of them. The inaction of European leadership remains to this day, the most fatal of failures, one from which important lessons are to be drawn for posterity.

    We return briefly to his "Struggle"


    Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf (Volume I):

    And so,
    internally armed with faith in the goodness of God and the impenetrable stupidity of the electorate, the struggle for what is called ‘the reconstruction of the Reich’ can now begin.

    Financial operations succeed easier than war operations. Hence it was no longer any great attraction for a true hero or even a statesman to be brought into touch with the nearest Jew banker. Real merit was not interested in receiving cheap decorations and therefore declined them with thanks. But from the standpoint of good breeding such a development was deeply regrettable. The nobility began to lose more and more of the racial qualities that were a condition of its very existence, with the result that in many cases the term ‘plebeian’ would have been more appropriate.

    A serious state of economic disruption was being brought about by the slow elimination of the personal control of vested interests and the gradual transference of the whole economic structure into the hands of joint stock companies.

    Before the War the internationalization of the German economic structure had already begun by the roundabout way of share issues. It is true that a section of the German industrialists made a determined attempt to avert the danger, but in the end, they gave way before the united attacks of money-grabbing capitalism, which was assisted in this fight by its faithful henchmen in the Marxist movement.



    Mein Kampf Volume II [Weltanshauung]

    But a general conception of life can never be given an organic embodiment until it is precisely and definitely formulated. The function which dogma fulfills in religious belief is parallel to the function which party principles fulfill for a political party which is in the process of being built up. Therefore, for the conception of life that is based on the folk idea it is necessary that an instrument be forged which can be used in fighting for this ideal, similar to the Marxist party organization which clears the way for internationalism.

    And this is the aim which the German National Socialist Labour Movement pursues.

     

    And there it must end. At least today. The beaches of Hyannis beckon :-)

    I remain,
    Your Obedient Servant,
    SS
  202. CalDre says:
    @Sam Shama
    [Of course the burr under the saddle for many here are diaspora Jews who support globalism for all countries except Israel.]

    Well, human suffering has been as much a constant as time has been inconstant. For those with a certain burr under their saddles, this is all they need know to render that burr nonirritating. Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions. It is country formed explicitly to offer sanctuary to Jews escaping persecution. While there is little of it today, now it but a moment in time. An issue to be cognizant of is population density.

    I think you missed the point about the hypocrisy, which can be explained best by combining with the other observations that Jews (as a tribe) seek to rule the world with Jerusalem as their global headquarters.

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  203. RobinG says:
    @Sam Shama
    [The fact remains that the creation of Israel precipitated both expulsions.]

    Yes, true. The nation needed to be created and an unplanned population transfer occurred.

    “…… an unplanned population transfer occurred.”

    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before “Israel” was created. Maybe GeoKat has the quotation of the early Zionists at his fingertips.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before “Israel” was created.

    Other than undercutting Sam's terminology, what difference does it make?

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?
    , @Sam Shama
    Arab populations left as much of their own accord, due to exhortations of the Arab leadership promising a return upon "throwing the Jews into the Sea", as on account of Jewish forces sending some on the run. Very much the same happened to Mizrachi Jews from all over the Arab world fleeing anticipated and immediately inflicted harm upon them. Maybe you can find an all-encompassing "quote" to disclaim all of that? I won't be surprised.
    , @geokat62

    Maybe GeoKat has the quotation of the early Zionists at his fingertips.
     
    Will this do?

    “In this building [the Red House], on a cold Wednesday afiemoon, 10 March 1948, a group of eleven men, veteran Zionist leaders together with young military Jewish officers, put the final touches to a plan for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. That same evening, military orders were dispatched to the units on the ground to prepare for the systematic expulsion of the Palestinians from vast areas of the country. The orders came with a detailed description of the methods to be employed to forcibly evict the people: large-scale intimidation; laying siege to and bombarding villages and population centres; setting fire to homes, properties and goods; expulsion; demolition; and, finally, planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled inhabitants from returning.” – excerpt from Ilan Pappe’s, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine
     
  204. @Sam Shama
    What compromising material spy agencies use against public officials of both friendly and unfriendly nations I shall leave for our imaginations. On the level of sharing with Five Eyes? But of course! It is an intelligence sharing pact most sweeping in scope. Please do read Ed Snowden's interview which follows, where he says [more to follow later in this post] .

    SNOWDEN: "In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK's General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has a system called TEMPORA. TEMPORA is the signals intelligence community's first "full-take" Internet buffer that doesn't care about content type and pays only marginal attention to the Human Rights Act. It snarfs everything, in a rolling buffer to allow retroactive investigation without missing a single bit. Right now the buffer can hold three days of traffic, but that's being improved. Three days may not sound like much, but remember that that's not metadata. "Full-take" means it doesn't miss anything, and ingests the entirety of each circuit's capacity. If you send a single ICMP packet and it routes through the UK, we get it. If you download something and the CDN (Content Delivery Network) happens to serve from the UK, we get it. If your sick daughter's medical records get processed at a London call center … well, you get the idea.
     
    Hereafter, for those unfamiliar with Five Eyes, are a series of blockquotes to put a bit of perspective on the complete, unfiltered intelligence sharing, snooping, etc. practiced by these intelligence agencies. Israel more recently co-operates with NSA pretty extensively, e.g., Stuxnet was co-written by Isr8200/ and NSA.

    The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence. In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on spying.[8]

    As the surveillance capabilities of the FVEY continue to increase to keep up to pace with technological advancements, a global surveillance system has been gradually developed to capture the communications of entire populations across national borders.[9] The following list contains a handful of targets of the FVEY who are public figures in various fields. In order for a person to be included in the list, there must be well-documented evidence based on reliable sources, such as leaked or declassified FVEY documents or whistleblower accounts, which demonstrate that the person involved is, or was, intentionally targeted for surveillance.

     

    Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain "some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets".[Wiki]

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/navy-spy-probe-kept-military-in-dark-documents-1.1856151

    Rob Gordon. "Navy spy probe kept military in dark: documents". Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 20 October 2013. The military's fears were well-founded, given Delisle had access to terabytes of some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets. He operated a computer system called Stone Ghost, which links the intelligence services of the Five Eyes: the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

     

    Here is Snowden's interview with Spiegel:

    In an interview released this week, Mr. Snowden said that Germany’s intelligence services are “in bed” with the National Security Agency, “the same as with most other Western countries.” The assertion has added to fresh scrutiny in the European news media of Berlin and other European governments that may have benefited from the enormous American snooping program known as Prism, or conducted wide-ranging surveillance operations of their own.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edward-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/world/europe/for-western-allies-a-long-history-of-swapping-intelligence.html

     

    The UKUSA Agreement born of the Cold War period is the most expansive in its class. Here is the link from National Archives:
    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/

    The scope and language guiding these agreements which filtered through to FiveEyes and subsequently to certain Asian and Nordic countries are simply unparalleled.

    Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973, and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005. On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online. Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War's most important documents, with immense historical significance. [Wiki]

    The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/world-signals-intelligence-and-gcsb-context-ns-129503

    Complementary information:

    echelon-ep-fin.htm European Parliament Final Report on Echelon September 7, 2001
    echelon-090501.htm European Commission Resolution on Echelon September 6, 2001

    https://cryptome.org/cryptome-2001.htm

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  205. Sam Shama says:
    @Hagia Sofia
    Complementary information:




    echelon-ep-fin.htm European Parliament Final Report on Echelon September 7, 2001
    echelon-090501.htm European Commission Resolution on Echelon September 6, 2001

    https://cryptome.org/cryptome-2001.htm

    Thank you.

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  206. iffen says:
    @RobinG
    "...... an unplanned population transfer occurred."

    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before "Israel" was created. Maybe GeoKat has the quotation of the early Zionists at his fingertips.

    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before “Israel” was created.

    Other than undercutting Sam’s terminology, what difference does it make?

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?

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    (((Israel))). Happy?
    , @DFH

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?
     
    Christ is the true Israel
  207. Sam Shama says:
    @RobinG
    "...... an unplanned population transfer occurred."

    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before "Israel" was created. Maybe GeoKat has the quotation of the early Zionists at his fingertips.

    Arab populations left as much of their own accord, due to exhortations of the Arab leadership promising a return upon “throwing the Jews into the Sea”, as on account of Jewish forces sending some on the run. Very much the same happened to Mizrachi Jews from all over the Arab world fleeing anticipated and immediately inflicted harm upon them. Maybe you can find an all-encompassing “quote” to disclaim all of that? I won’t be surprised.

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    Arab populations left as much of their own accord
     
    So fleeing a war and roaming gangs of terrorists is leaving "of your own accord"? So I guess, a priori, if you leave your home in the morning to go to work, or park your car, someone can just occupy your house or car and keep it, being as, well, you left it "of your own accord"?
    , @Skeptikal
    This whole post is BS. Disgraceful.
    The photographic and even film record of "Nakba'd" Palestinians is extensive.

    Same as those forcibly expatriated by the Nazi regime, who supposed "left of their own accord" becuase they didn't fancy getting shot or being sent to a "reeducation" camp.

    , @Rurik

    Arab populations left as much of their own accord,
     
    the Jews were handing out invitations to become Israeli citizens at places like Deir Yassin, only the Arabs simply considered the manor that the invitations were being delivered as less than cordial

    at places like Deir Yassin, the murderous savagery of the Jewish terrorists was so beyond heinous, because it was deliberately calculated to strike sheer terror into the hearts of the Arab populations in a demonic plan to cause them to flee, en masse for their lives and the lives of their children.

    and flee they did, from the horrors visited upon men, women and children


    According to a count conducted by International Red Cross representative Jacques de Reynier, apart from bodies left lying in the streets, 150 corpses were found in one cistern alone, among them people who had been either decapitated or disemboweled.[5] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem.[6] Morris wrote that there were also cases of mutilation and rape.[7]
     
    and this from the kosher Wiki

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

    I've read they hacked babies out of mother's wombs, and then bashed their brains out on the stone walls

    it's not unlike what they do today in Gaza, with their operations like Cast Lead, where they deliberately terrorize the Arabs with weapons like White Phosphorus that burns the skin off

    http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1105960/thumbs/o-ISRAEL-WHITE-PHOSPHOROUS-facebook.jpg

    http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/D/D_Amon/20090107/20090107164017.jpg?1321618443

    only now the Arabs have no where to even run to

    they're trapped, and forced to endure the psychotic cruelty of the Jewish supremacists daily

  208. Sam Shama says:
    @CalDre
    I think you missed the point about the hypocrisy, which can be explained best by combining with the other observations that Jews (as a tribe) seek to rule the world with Jerusalem as their global headquarters.

    Did I miss the point? Ask Iffen.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    I was parroting.

    I do not view it as hypocrisy, but I see how it can easily be interpreted as such.

    If we had an instance of another country that was specifically founded in modern times to provide a safe space for a people persecuted for millennia and subjected to repeated attempts of genocide and a diaspora Jew insisted upon open borders for that country while advocating closed borders for Israel then we would have hypocrisy.

  209. RobinG says:
    @iffen
    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before “Israel” was created.

    Other than undercutting Sam's terminology, what difference does it make?

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?

    (((Israel))). Happy?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    That was easy enough, try your hand at the 1st question.
  210. anarchyst says:
    @iffen
    Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions.

    True, but in my opinion it is a Jewish state, regardless of whether some right wing political group in Israel gets that written into law or not. You can argue the point with the detractors and claim that diversity in Israel is the same as the push for globalism in the US and Europe if you want. I don't see it as making any difference to my opinion of the matter. My simplistic view is that Zionism is a form of nationalism and all nationalisms should get examined by the same standards.

    The situation in present-day Israel would make an old advocate of “Jim Crow” legislation proud. There are separate roads for Jews and Arabs. Quite often, the Arab roads are substandard, with arbitrary blockades and checkpoints. Even automobile license plates are identified by ethnicity.
    Try walking certain Israeli city streets wearing a crucifix or other means of identifying as a Christian. You may be spat on, criticized, or shunned (given the “evil eye”) by jews. Israel’s Arabs are much more respectful and accommodating of Christians than Jews.
    Now if you are one of Hagee’s “Christian shills for Israel”, you will be carefully guarded from such behavior.

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    This is a lie. There are ultra-orthodox scumbags in limited parts of Jerusalem who would spit on the ground if they spot anyone not an orthodox jew by sight. They make no distinctions between overt christians or secular jews. These ultra-orthodox are a despicable group and the modern orthodox and certainly the secular would like nothing better than having them committed to hard labor.
  211. Sam Shama says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Well, Sam, it appears you have emerged as quite the practiced advocate from your sojourn to observe "the summer rituals" on Cape Cod. http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975939


    I do hope you still feel inclined -- "obligated" was your term -- to respond to my queries of Aug 19
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-chorus-sings-again/#comment-1975119

    Please explain how you define “the virus of Nazism.”
    In your analysis, What is pathological about Nazism?
    With moral clarity and specifics — Who did what to whom, when and why — define the “virus of Nazism,” s’il vous plait.
     
    Thanks in advance.

    Y'r ob'd servant
    StC

    Oh, dash it! I thought I’d get a free pass to negotiate out of what is likely to be a post which requires more than the few minutes of thought typically expended on the other sundry rubbish. No; that is not to be. Well, I shall be back S2C, sacrificing my customary Cape afternoon of masterly inactivity.

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  212. DFH says:
    @iffen
    NONSENSE. The violent expulsion of the Arab population was anticipated and planned many decades before “Israel” was created.

    Other than undercutting Sam's terminology, what difference does it make?

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?

    Why do you put Israel in quotes?

    Christ is the true Israel

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  213. CalDre says:
    @Sam Shama
    Arab populations left as much of their own accord, due to exhortations of the Arab leadership promising a return upon "throwing the Jews into the Sea", as on account of Jewish forces sending some on the run. Very much the same happened to Mizrachi Jews from all over the Arab world fleeing anticipated and immediately inflicted harm upon them. Maybe you can find an all-encompassing "quote" to disclaim all of that? I won't be surprised.

    Arab populations left as much of their own accord

    So fleeing a war and roaming gangs of terrorists is leaving “of your own accord”? So I guess, a priori, if you leave your home in the morning to go to work, or park your car, someone can just occupy your house or car and keep it, being as, well, you left it “of your own accord”?

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  214. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    Israel contains a highly diverse population of many races and religions.

    True, but in my opinion it is a Jewish state, regardless of whether some right wing political group in Israel gets that written into law or not. You can argue the point with the detractors and claim that diversity in Israel is the same as the push for globalism in the US and Europe if you want. I don't see it as making any difference to my opinion of the matter. My simplistic view is that Zionism is a form of nationalism and all nationalisms should get examined by the same standards.

    I am myself a nationalist. There are qualifications each citizen must fulfill. There are limits to what has been termed globalism. If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce, exchange of ideas etc. then I am against it.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce

    There is a lot of imprecision in terms in current use. That is willful on the part of some, but not me in this instance. I was using it in the sense of open borders. The idea that national borders are the problem and that we need to get rid of such out dated ideas. The idea that everyone in the world has an inalienable right to migrate to wherever they want. I will add that to the extent that international trade and commerce harms me and mine more than it helps; I will definitely oppose that aspect as well.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Your "I am a nationalist" seems to be ambiguous. Are you saying it of yourself as someone with emotional feeling for one national body? (If so which?). Or are you affirming that national polities benefit from their people being united by nationalistic feeling (loyalty/tradition/dentiment)?

    If the latter, I comment that your reference to "qualifications each citizen must fulfill" is a bit thin and bloodless.

    And I presume you would see difficulty about maintaining a unifying nationalism in some nations if they introduce large or just powerful incompatible minorities even if they aren't rapidly outbreeding the earlier natives.
  215. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama
    Did I miss the point? Ask Iffen.

    I was parroting.

    I do not view it as hypocrisy, but I see how it can easily be interpreted as such.

    If we had an instance of another country that was specifically founded in modern times to provide a safe space for a people persecuted for millennia and subjected to repeated attempts of genocide and a diaspora Jew insisted upon open borders for that country while advocating closed borders for Israel then we would have hypocrisy.

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  216. @anonymous
    That should be, "The Evil Empire."

    You're welcome, and don't forget to mail that cheque, ok.

    That should be, “The Evil Empire.”

    IMO, all empire is ethically ambivalent, so … denied!

    Cost of denial deducted from your check. You owe me 29 cents.

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  217. Sam Shama says:
    @iffen
    I was parroting.

    I do not view it as hypocrisy, but I see how it can easily be interpreted as such.

    If we had an instance of another country that was specifically founded in modern times to provide a safe space for a people persecuted for millennia and subjected to repeated attempts of genocide and a diaspora Jew insisted upon open borders for that country while advocating closed borders for Israel then we would have hypocrisy.

    Agree entirely

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  218. iffen says:
    @Sam Shama
    I am myself a nationalist. There are qualifications each citizen must fulfill. There are limits to what has been termed globalism. If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce, exchange of ideas etc. then I am against it.

    If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce

    There is a lot of imprecision in terms in current use. That is willful on the part of some, but not me in this instance. I was using it in the sense of open borders. The idea that national borders are the problem and that we need to get rid of such out dated ideas. The idea that everyone in the world has an inalienable right to migrate to wherever they want. I will add that to the extent that international trade and commerce harms me and mine more than it helps; I will definitely oppose that aspect as well.

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  219. Rurik says:
    @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik,

    A question --
    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?

    Hey Chuck,

    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?

    actually he just left another AIPAC on the forest leaves, there to remind others of Sam’s query

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    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    Rurik,

    Thanks... laughter helps me cope with hasbara assaults upon the "general population" awareness!

    One matter?

    As discussed, C.S. Lewis wrote the satirical book, "The Screwtape Letters," where an elder demon coaches a younger upstart. *

    In the forward, Lewis makes the claim that devils ("fiends") hate to be mocked and such insight lends to inspire my U.R. comment Missives to Sam the Sham and iffen-iffen.

    Thanks!

    * In Oxford, C.S. Lewis passed away on the day J.F.K. was murdered, November 22, 1963.
    Trappist Monk Thomas Merton had doubt about President Kennedy's moral strength
    to deny the plans of the "Unspeakable" forces aligned against his administration.
  220. @Sam Shama
    I am myself a nationalist. There are qualifications each citizen must fulfill. There are limits to what has been termed globalism. If by anti-globalism, on the other hand, we mean an imposed cessation of international trade and commerce, exchange of ideas etc. then I am against it.

    Your “I am a nationalist” seems to be ambiguous. Are you saying it of yourself as someone with emotional feeling for one national body? (If so which?). Or are you affirming that national polities benefit from their people being united by nationalistic feeling (loyalty/tradition/dentiment)?

    If the latter, I comment that your reference to “qualifications each citizen must fulfill” is a bit thin and bloodless.

    And I presume you would see difficulty about maintaining a unifying nationalism in some nations if they introduce large or just powerful incompatible minorities even if they aren’t rapidly outbreeding the earlier natives.

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    I am a nationalist in that I believe it is normal for a citizen vested in the culture and traditions of a nation to steer his own actions for the common good of other citizens, i.e., the nation at large. Easier for smaller nations than vastly larger ones. This, in effect, leads me to adopt a combination of personal libertarianism and fiscal Keynesianism [though many confuse Keynes as a socialist; he most decidedly was not!] I must add, when in the U.K., I'm a steady man for the Monarchy :-)

    On the second portion of your post, I'd say it depends on the minority [Jews, e.g. are deeply loyal to HM], whilst unassimilable minorities are problematic.
  221. Rurik says:
    @Jake
    These endless wars are the contemporary conflicts of the British Empire, The US took over for the dying Empire, so that the WASP worldview would control the globe. So, yes, it is white men who are responsible.

    WASPs made Jews their junior partners in first running roughshod over the vast majority of British isles natives and then of the world. It is only in recent decades that Jews have replaced WASPs as the more important partner in the Anglo-Zionist empire.

    the WASP worldview would control the globe. So, yes, it is white men who are responsible.

    this seems an obsession of yours Jake

    I know a lot of WASPs, and none of them like wars and homomania and mass-immigration and crony-capitalism 0r any of the rest of the zio-evils that plague this planet and its people.

    the few WASPs I see are quislings of Zion. Like Tony Blair or George Bush, Dick Cheney, Hillary.. et al.

    all the WASPs I know just want to return to a Normal Rockwell/Leave It To Beaver type of existence that they seem to thrive in so well.

    in fact the worst of the Christians seem to be huddled in the Vatican behind their massive walls these days, demanding Western civilization (“Christendom”) commit suicide

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  222. Avery says:
    @fnn

    It won’t go anywhere, because everybody in authority and dozens and dozens of “experts” will testify that the police and City officials acted in a way to maintain peace, maintain order, etc, etc, etc.
     
    That would take quite a bit of twisted Talmudic reasoning given that the fuzz did precisely the opposite. But I defer to your superior knowledge.

    { But I defer to your superior knowledge.}

    I wouldn’t know what ‘Talmudic reasoning’ means: I am of Armenian ancestry, Armenian Apostolic Christian Church. As far removed from Talmud as one can get.

    And I have no superior knowledge.
    I have lived in US many years and have a habit of following and studying these types of things.
    My knowledge, if any, comes from observing how the US in-Justice system works in actuality vs what many (most?) people think how it works in theory or how it should work.

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  223. Rurik says:
    @iffen
    So in your book, opposition to the [as it's currently constructed] existence of Israel is de facto proof of anti-Semitism?

    More or less, but I am open to rational explanations as to why that is not true in general or in particular. I make some exceptions, for example, some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

    some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.

    wow

    how generous you are!

    what about their houses?

    Can they get those back? or do you only offer the Palestinians your sympathy?

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    • Replies: @iffen
    700,000 vis-a-vis 800,000

    Close enough for government work. :)

    I think that it would be a gesture of trying to right an injustice if Israel paid compensation to those expelled. Ditto for the ME countries that expelled Jews. However, the clock is ticking for this sort of action.

  224. Skeptikal says:
    @Corvinus
    "As far as I can determine, almost no one knows much about the specific agendas of the various parties that were involved in last week’s fracas in Charlottesville."

    Yes, we do know about the agendas of the sides involved. You have a group on the hard right, some of whom wore nice clothes and carried tiki torches in an effort to look respectable. Others, however, were armed and ready for a fight. Their collective intention was to excite the opposition by going on the offensive with Nazi and Confederate gear in tow and rhetoric too boot. You have another group on the hard left, who likewise desire a battle royale and who appear to be on the moral high ground by denouncing certain ideas they deem to be other than American. Both groups then cried foul when the police were brought in to control the scene and when they seemingly refused or avoided arresting their opponents--when in reality they took down those individuals regardless of side who clearly broke the law.

    ” Both groups then cried foul when the police were brought in to control the scene and when they seemingly refused or avoided arresting their opponents–when in reality they took down those individuals regardless of side who clearly broke the law.”

    You get this info where?
    This is not supported by the accounts that I have seen/read.

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    "You get this info where? This is not supported by the accounts that I have seen/read."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

    "And white nationalists, neo-Nazis and others -- who have been blamed for provoking violence at last week's "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia -- claim it was Antifa groups that first got aggressive. A 20-year-old man who had attended the rally later used his car to ram a crowd of counterprotesters, killing one of them. Though counterprotesters deny they are to blame for violence, Trump this week declared "blame on both sides" -- and has drawn intense criticism for his view."

    It's really easy here. Wear a mask, carry a stick at a protest march...get arrested. Regardless of the side.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html

    "We cover our face because the Nazis will try to find out who we are. And that is a very bad thing because they harass people," he said. "We're trying to stop them from organizing. ... When they organize, they kill people, they hurt people, they fight people. And we're the ones who are fighting back."

    It's a position taken by many Antifa activists: "This is self-defense." Antifa activists often don't hesitate to destroy property, which many see as the incarnation of unfair wealth distribution.

    "Violence against windows -- there's no such thing as violence against windows," a masked Antifa member in Union Square told CNN. "Windows don't have -- they're not persons. And even when they are persons, the people we fight back against, they are evil. They are the living embodiment, they are the second coming of Hitler."

    I would imagine that the Alt Right protestors share similar sentiments of their ideological enemy.
  225. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anarchyst
    The situation in present-day Israel would make an old advocate of "Jim Crow" legislation proud. There are separate roads for Jews and Arabs. Quite often, the Arab roads are substandard, with arbitrary blockades and checkpoints. Even automobile license plates are identified by ethnicity.
    Try walking certain Israeli city streets wearing a crucifix or other means of identifying as a Christian. You may be spat on, criticized, or shunned (given the "evil eye") by jews. Israel's Arabs are much more respectful and accommodating of Christians than Jews.
    Now if you are one of Hagee's "Christian shills for Israel", you will be carefully guarded from such behavior.

    This is a lie. There are ultra-orthodox scumbags in limited parts of Jerusalem who would spit on the ground if they spot anyone not an orthodox jew by sight. They make no distinctions between overt christians or secular jews. These ultra-orthodox are a despicable group and the modern orthodox and certainly the secular would like nothing better than having them committed to hard labor.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Say what?

    All Jews are not interchangeable?

    Are you sure about this? Because many of the commenters here ....
    , @anarchyst
    Not a lie...personally experienced "all of the above"...are you a hasbara??
  226. Avery says:
    @CalDre

    {And I gave lots of examples.}

    The examples you gave had nothing to do with Charlottesville.
    We are discussing Sovereign Immunity in the case of Charlottesville.
     

    No, we weren't. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suite, I understand. No worries. You made a claim about "sovereign immunity", which I easily debunked. End of story.

    The string "42 USC 1983" is relevant because they are largely cases brought against sovereigns. And it's not just a "string", it's a reference to a statute (indeed, a statute that removes sovereign immunity), something you apparently don't know, sad as that is.


    Again, if you think the plaintiffs have a case, then, find one case that is substantially similar to Charlottesville and where the plaintiff won the case against Sovereign Immunity.
     
    WTF? There's not even an event that is "substantially similar to Charlottesville". And I'm certainly not conducting legal research for you for free - $500/hr might convince me.

    And you are simply again demonstrating that you have not even the slightest clue what "sovereign immunity" means. There is no sovereign immunity for violating constitutional rights. As to your point about a "blue wall" and the like, as I noted, with my references, police lose these cases all the time. One example: Abner Louima. Yeah, it's hard to win cases against any large, well-funded organization. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with "sovereign immunity".

    {Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suite, I understand. No worries. You made a claim about “sovereign immunity”, which I easily debunked. End of story.}

    You debunked nothing.
    And reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit: accept it and live with it.
    It’s OK. Tomorrow is another day.

    {And you are simply again demonstrating that you have not even the slightest clue what “sovereign immunity” means. }

    I am pretty sure I have a clue and I am pretty sure you don’t.

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    Municipalities typically do not have Sovereign Immunity. If they have any immunity, it typically derives from the State. In the case of VA, immunity might apply if the tort was deemed to arise from a government function, while it might not apply if the tort arises from a management function. I'm sure the city would argue that policing is a government action.

    Maybe you can bark up the tree with the limb that pursues 18 USC 242, which applies where an official deprives a person of his civil rights under color of law.
  227. @Sam Shama
    What compromising material spy agencies use against public officials of both friendly and unfriendly nations I shall leave for our imaginations. On the level of sharing with Five Eyes? But of course! It is an intelligence sharing pact most sweeping in scope. Please do read Ed Snowden's interview which follows, where he says [more to follow later in this post] .

    SNOWDEN: "In some cases, the so-called Five Eye Partners go beyond what NSA itself does. For instance, the UK's General Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) has a system called TEMPORA. TEMPORA is the signals intelligence community's first "full-take" Internet buffer that doesn't care about content type and pays only marginal attention to the Human Rights Act. It snarfs everything, in a rolling buffer to allow retroactive investigation without missing a single bit. Right now the buffer can hold three days of traffic, but that's being improved. Three days may not sound like much, but remember that that's not metadata. "Full-take" means it doesn't miss anything, and ingests the entirety of each circuit's capacity. If you send a single ICMP packet and it routes through the UK, we get it. If you download something and the CDN (Content Delivery Network) happens to serve from the UK, we get it. If your sick daughter's medical records get processed at a London call center … well, you get the idea.
     
    Hereafter, for those unfamiliar with Five Eyes, are a series of blockquotes to put a bit of perspective on the complete, unfiltered intelligence sharing, snooping, etc. practiced by these intelligence agencies. Israel more recently co-operates with NSA pretty extensively, e.g., Stuxnet was co-written by Isr8200/ and NSA.

    The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement for joint cooperation in signals intelligence, military intelligence, and human intelligence. In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other in order to circumvent restrictive domestic regulations on spying.[8]

    As the surveillance capabilities of the FVEY continue to increase to keep up to pace with technological advancements, a global surveillance system has been gradually developed to capture the communications of entire populations across national borders.[9] The following list contains a handful of targets of the FVEY who are public figures in various fields. In order for a person to be included in the list, there must be well-documented evidence based on reliable sources, such as leaked or declassified FVEY documents or whistleblower accounts, which demonstrate that the person involved is, or was, intentionally targeted for surveillance.

     

    Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain "some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets".[Wiki]

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/navy-spy-probe-kept-military-in-dark-documents-1.1856151

    Rob Gordon. "Navy spy probe kept military in dark: documents". Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. Retrieved 20 October 2013. The military's fears were well-founded, given Delisle had access to terabytes of some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets. He operated a computer system called Stone Ghost, which links the intelligence services of the Five Eyes: the United States, Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

     

    Here is Snowden's interview with Spiegel:

    In an interview released this week, Mr. Snowden said that Germany’s intelligence services are “in bed” with the National Security Agency, “the same as with most other Western countries.” The assertion has added to fresh scrutiny in the European news media of Berlin and other European governments that may have benefited from the enormous American snooping program known as Prism, or conducted wide-ranging surveillance operations of their own.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edward-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/world/europe/for-western-allies-a-long-history-of-swapping-intelligence.html

     

    The UKUSA Agreement born of the Cold War period is the most expansive in its class. Here is the link from National Archives:
    http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/

    The scope and language guiding these agreements which filtered through to FiveEyes and subsequently to certain Asian and Nordic countries are simply unparalleled.

    Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973, and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005. On 25 June 2010, for the first time in history, the full text of the agreement was publicly released by the United Kingdom and the United States, and can now be viewed online. Shortly after its release, the seven-page UKUSA Agreement was recognized by Time magazine as one of the Cold War's most important documents, with immense historical significance. [Wiki]

    The global surveillance disclosure by Edward Snowden has shown that the intelligence-sharing activities between the First World allies of the Cold War are rapidly shifting into the digital realm of the Internet.
    https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/world-signals-intelligence-and-gcsb-context-ns-129503

    Thanks. There’s a lot to re-read there. Like Snowden himself, and Manning, it suggests thst there are all sorts of possibilities for stealing and giving or selling damaging material to blackmailers.

    You wouldn’t really be surprised if AIPAC – or maybe a grizzled Old Turk working at AIPAC – used embarrassing information about someone in Congress or Administration to keep him in line would you?

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    [You wouldn’t really be surprised if AIPAC – or maybe a grizzled Old Turk working at AIPAC – used embarrassing information about someone in Congress or Administration to keep him in line would you?]

    I shouldn't be surprised, but I wouldn't base the general opinion on a matter of some importance on such a speculation, however plausible.
  228. Skeptikal says:
    @Sam Shama
    Arab populations left as much of their own accord, due to exhortations of the Arab leadership promising a return upon "throwing the Jews into the Sea", as on account of Jewish forces sending some on the run. Very much the same happened to Mizrachi Jews from all over the Arab world fleeing anticipated and immediately inflicted harm upon them. Maybe you can find an all-encompassing "quote" to disclaim all of that? I won't be surprised.

    This whole post is BS. Disgraceful.
    The photographic and even film record of “Nakba’d” Palestinians is extensive.

    Same as those forcibly expatriated by the Nazi regime, who supposed “left of their own accord” becuase they didn’t fancy getting shot or being sent to a “reeducation” camp.

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  229. iffen says:

    Off Topic (or maybe not)

    From VOX:

    CNN revealed Tuesday night that the frontrunner in an Alabama Senate race has repeatedly questioned President Barack Obama’s citizenship…
    Judge Roy Moore, who won the first round of the Alabama GOP Senate primary this August…
    Famous for refusing to take down a monument to the Ten Commandments from his courthouse, and then again for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, Moore has defied federal court orders, addressed a white supremacist group, penned invectives against Perez Hilton over same-sex marriage, and argued that Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) should not be seated as a Congress member because he is Muslim…
    A poll published Monday found Moore leads Strange by 19 points.

    Here come da Judge!

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  230. @The Alarmist

    "... particularly when said monuments commemorate people who fought and died for their country ...."
     
    There's a self-proclaimed "Great American" Conservative talk-show host, Bill Cunningham, who makes a great deal of the fact that leaders of the CSA and its forces were in open rebellion against the USA and are therefore not worthy of being memorialized. He is, of course, looking at this in the post-Civil War context, where the Union is now deemed to essentially be indivisible by a decision of the Supreme Court (Texas v. White, 74 US 700 (1869)). Had the war gone to a draw or a CSA victory, one could easily say that these folks were indeed fighting and dying for their country, but that is apparently controversial even on the self-proclaimed right.

    I would agree in any case that they were fighting and dying for a country as they knew it in the context of their times and its contemporaneous politics; there is no question that they were fighting and dying for their respective States and the overall cause of the rights of those States.

    The Civil War was fought for a number of reasons, of which slavery is but a minor cause, but it has been co-opted to lend a moral credence to the second vanquishment not only of the Southern States but all of the States.

    This isn't about erasing the memories of slavery so much as to cement once and for all a Federal supremacy, regardless of whether or not it is being run by and for the benefit of some unsavory characters and their pet causes, and you in your local communities are to have no say whatsoever on the course it will run.

    Good analysis although I’ve heard Cunningham recently since Charlottesville remark more than once that the southern states “declared war” on the northern states. This is factually untrue. Neither side made such a declaration.

    Secession, rebellion, insurrection are all more accurate terms for the South’s actions. A “Great American” like Cunningham who makes his living with words (he’s also a law-ya) should be more precise with them.

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  231. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    On Antifa's hypocrisy/dishonesty on race, you could also add that they are silent on Israel and Zionism (although like most left-wing groups you can probably find some isolated pro-Palestinian factions).

    You don’t know what you’re talking about. Most Antifa folks are very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and unembarrassed to say so.

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    I would say their record is mixed, at best. They certainly don't carry on about knee-jerk US support for Israel like they would, say, for even limited support for the old South Africa.

    http://m.jpost.com/American-Politics/Antifa-the-group-that-fought-white-supremacists-in-Charlottesville-502721

    But let's say you're right. You would say, then, that anti-Fa is consistent in opposing Jewish racism?
  232. @Anon
    You don't know what you're talking about. Most Antifa folks are very pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel and unembarrassed to say so.

    I would say their record is mixed, at best. They certainly don’t carry on about knee-jerk US support for Israel like they would, say, for even limited support for the old South Africa.

    http://m.jpost.com/American-Politics/Antifa-the-group-that-fought-white-supremacists-in-Charlottesville-502721

    But let’s say you’re right. You would say, then, that anti-Fa is consistent in opposing Jewish racism?

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  233. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Arab populations left as much of their own accord, due to exhortations of the Arab leadership promising a return upon "throwing the Jews into the Sea", as on account of Jewish forces sending some on the run. Very much the same happened to Mizrachi Jews from all over the Arab world fleeing anticipated and immediately inflicted harm upon them. Maybe you can find an all-encompassing "quote" to disclaim all of that? I won't be surprised.

    Arab populations left as much of their own accord,

    the Jews were handing out invitations to become Israeli citizens at places like Deir Yassin, only the Arabs simply considered the manor that the invitations were being delivered as less than cordial

    at places like Deir Yassin, the murderous savagery of the Jewish terrorists was so beyond heinous, because it was deliberately calculated to strike sheer terror into the hearts of the Arab populations in a demonic plan to cause them to flee, en masse for their lives and the lives of their children.

    and flee they did, from the horrors visited upon men, women and children

    According to a count conducted by International Red Cross representative Jacques de Reynier, apart from bodies left lying in the streets, 150 corpses were found in one cistern alone, among them people who had been either decapitated or disemboweled.[5] Several villagers were taken prisoner and may have been killed after being paraded through the streets of West Jerusalem.[6] Morris wrote that there were also cases of mutilation and rape.[7]

    and this from the kosher Wiki

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

    I’ve read they hacked babies out of mother’s wombs, and then bashed their brains out on the stone walls

    it’s not unlike what they do today in Gaza, with their operations like Cast Lead, where they deliberately terrorize the Arabs with weapons like White Phosphorus that burns the skin off

    http://cdn-ak.f.st-hatena.com/images/fotolife/D/D_Amon/20090107/20090107164017.jpg?1321618443

    only now the Arabs have no where to even run to

    they’re trapped, and forced to endure the psychotic cruelty of the Jewish supremacists daily

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  234. iffen says:
    @Anonymous
    This is a lie. There are ultra-orthodox scumbags in limited parts of Jerusalem who would spit on the ground if they spot anyone not an orthodox jew by sight. They make no distinctions between overt christians or secular jews. These ultra-orthodox are a despicable group and the modern orthodox and certainly the secular would like nothing better than having them committed to hard labor.

    Say what?

    All Jews are not interchangeable?

    Are you sure about this? Because many of the commenters here ….

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  235. anarchyst says:
    @Anonymous
    This is a lie. There are ultra-orthodox scumbags in limited parts of Jerusalem who would spit on the ground if they spot anyone not an orthodox jew by sight. They make no distinctions between overt christians or secular jews. These ultra-orthodox are a despicable group and the modern orthodox and certainly the secular would like nothing better than having them committed to hard labor.

    Not a lie…personally experienced “all of the above”…are you a hasbara??

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    Yeah sure you experienced it. Like I experienced slit-eyed chinamen poisoning the tea for white christian demons when I was traveling in China.

    So what if you did experience this? Did you read the rest of my post? Travel to other parts of the world especially the ME, why even parts of Europe and you'll find many such objectionable behaviors.
  236. @Corvinus
    "Yeah, but is she (your wife) white? Not that I really care..."

    Yes, my wife is white. And you do care since you asked and have this obsession with me.

    "but you’re the cuck, not me."

    Meaningless term.

    "And interesting you’d hail a philo-Semite like Derb as a “hero” of the alt-Right."

    The Alt-Right, not I, hails him as a hero. Do you not realize his clout within the Alt-Right?

    Cuck is entirely meaningful and utterly appropriate in your case. You are white (or claim to be) but regularly call out any criticism, however mild or reasonable, of non-whites, esp. Jews. These are groups which collectively NEVER offer any such reciprocity to mis-placed white altruism. Why you go to bat for them here is mystifying. It is one thing to be fair-minded, quite another to take turning-the-other-cheek as an act of moral imperative. That’s the essence of cuckoldry. (You also insinuate that posters here should take some sort of “action” which is likely to lead to their arrest, not sure what your agenda there is.)

    Re. Derb, I suppose he’s the media’s favorite alt-rightist since he’s pro-Israel (like Bannon, BTW). The rank-and-file know he’s unreliable, at best. (Doesn’t necessarily mean he doesn’t write interesting stuff from time to time, Unz (to his great credit) offers a wide range of viewpoints here.)

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    Yes, I would say Antifa opposes all racism.
    , @Corvinus
    "Cuck is entirely meaningful and utterly appropriate in your case."

    You are one trick pony. The term is observably devoid of substance.

    "You are white (or claim to be) but regularly call out any criticism, however mild or reasonable, of non-whites, esp. Jews."

    Pro-race is code for anti-humanity. Feel free to engage in the race baiting. You have a place among the Coalition Fringe Groups. You belong with Coates and Spencer, Wu and Coulter.

    Feel free to be "pro-white". What normies object to is being labeled "anti-white" for making their own racial decisions.

    "These are groups which collectively NEVER offer any such reciprocity to mis-placed white altruism."

    First, it is other than mis-placed white altruism. It simply is people being altruistic.

    Second, you now have to prove your claim considering that when you use an absolute term-- "never".

    This source counters your assertion--Jews are reciprocal when it comes altruism.

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1334-altruism

    Third, Jews call out Jews.

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/polish-jewish-feud-intensifies-as-one-leader-calls-others-court-jews/

    "The rank-and-file know he’s unreliable, at best."

    It is one thing to be fair-minded, quite another to take turning-the-other-cheek as an act of moral imperative. That's the essence of cuckoldry. Hoisted with your own petard.
  237. @Rurik
    Hey Chuck,

    Does that bear hail from secret duty on a (private) hasbara-owned horse ranch?
     
    actually he just left another AIPAC on the forest leaves, there to remind others of Sam's query

    Rurik,

    Thanks… laughter helps me cope with hasbara assaults upon the “general population” awareness!

    One matter?

    As discussed, C.S. Lewis wrote the satirical book, “The Screwtape Letters,” where an elder demon coaches a younger upstart. *

    In the forward, Lewis makes the claim that devils (“fiends”) hate to be mocked and such insight lends to inspire my U.R. comment Missives to Sam the Sham and iffen-iffen.

    Thanks!

    * In Oxford, C.S. Lewis passed away on the day J.F.K. was murdered, November 22, 1963.
    Trappist Monk Thomas Merton had doubt about President Kennedy’s moral strength
    to deny the plans of the “Unspeakable” forces aligned against his administration.

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    Thanks Chuck,

    Your comments are always a pleasure to read.

    cheers
  238. iffen says:
    @Rurik

    some Palestinians and their descendants that were expelled or exiled during its creation would get some sympathy from me on Jew hating.
     
    wow

    how generous you are!

    what about their houses?

    Can they get those back? or do you only offer the Palestinians your sympathy?

    700,000 vis-a-vis 800,000

    Close enough for government work. :)

    I think that it would be a gesture of trying to right an injustice if Israel paid compensation to those expelled. Ditto for the ME countries that expelled Jews. However, the clock is ticking for this sort of action.

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    700,000 vis-a-vis 800,000

    Close enough for government work. :)
     

    I know it's estimated that app. 700,000 Arabs were driven into the desert by the Jewish terrorists, but I don't know what the other number refers to.

    In any case, I guess you're mocking the Palestinians with that reference. Seems gratuitously mean-spirited if you ask me. You guys have taken all they have, and now you mock them?

    >>sigh<<


    if Israel paid compensation
     
    so I guess as to the question of them getting their houses back, it's no, eh?

    what about Jerusalem, can they at least have part of that for their own?

  239. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Beefcake the Mighty
    Cuck is entirely meaningful and utterly appropriate in your case. You are white (or claim to be) but regularly call out any criticism, however mild or reasonable, of non-whites, esp. Jews. These are groups which collectively NEVER offer any such reciprocity to mis-placed white altruism. Why you go to bat for them here is mystifying. It is one thing to be fair-minded, quite another to take turning-the-other-cheek as an act of moral imperative. That's the essence of cuckoldry. (You also insinuate that posters here should take some sort of "action" which is likely to lead to their arrest, not sure what your agenda there is.)

    Re. Derb, I suppose he's the media's favorite alt-rightist since he's pro-Israel (like Bannon, BTW). The rank-and-file know he's unreliable, at best. (Doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't write interesting stuff from time to time, Unz (to his great credit) offers a wide range of viewpoints here.)

    Yes, I would say Antifa opposes all racism.

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    Not quite what I asked you (and you're replying to the wrong comment, BTW), but ok.
    , @MarkinLA
    What does that mean when they support groups like BLM that are openly anti-white?
  240. Skeptikal says:
    @CalDre
    My initial response was to your claim about "sovereign immunity" and citizens not being able to sue governments, and I replied to that particular claim with the response that States and government officials can be sued for constitutional violations under 42 USC 1983. To which you replied:

    Give me one example of an someone (an individual) having used 42 USC 1983 to have successfully sued a State or local official.
     
    And I gave lots of examples.

    Now, you've done an attempted switcheroo, asking for a case where someone won a judgment for a cop refusing to uphold the law. Well, given that tens of thousands of published Section 1983 decisions, I'm not about to review them all, though I do recall reading about a case where an officer was held liable for failure to protect.

    But I don't think that is the case here. Here there is testimony from cops stating they were ordered to march the protesters and counter-protesters together and to "stand down" when the fisticuffs began. That's not a failure to intervene, that's deliberately provoking violence. If I were a Virginia litigator I would take that case, assuming I could confirm some of these claims. Moreover, there is a claim against the city for banning the rally before it took place, after a federal court had ordered the permit to be issued.

    Aside from the free speech issue, there's the issue of equal protection of the laws. The city banned a lawfully authorized protest by peaceful people (after banning it the first time and having a federal court