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UPDATE: On the morning of September 21st Phil Giraldi was fired over the phone by The American Conservative, where he had been a regular contributor for fourteen years. He was told that “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars” was unacceptable. The TAC management and board appear to have forgotten that the magazine was launched with an article by founder Pat Buchanan entitled “Whose War?” which largely made the same claims that Giraldi made about the Jewish push for another war, in that case with Iraq. Buchanan was vilified and denounced as an anti-Semite by many of the same people who are now similarly attacking Giraldi.
I spoke recently at a conference on America’s war party where afterwards an elderly gentleman came up to me and asked, “Why doesn’t anyone ever speak honestly about the six-hundred-pound gorilla in the room? Nobody has mentioned Israel in this conference and we all know it’s American Jews with all their money and power who are supporting every war in the Middle East for Netanyahu? Shouldn’t we start calling them out and not letting them get away with it?”
It was a question combined with a comment that I have heard many times before and my answer is always the same: any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity. Jewish groups and deep pocket individual donors not only control the politicians, they own and run the media and entertainment industries, meaning that no one will hear about or from the offending party ever again. They are particularly sensitive on the issue of so-called “dual loyalty,” particularly as the expression itself is a bit of a sham since it is pretty clear that some of them only have real loyalty to Israel.
Most recently, some pundits, including myself, have been warning of an impending war with Iran. To be sure, the urging to strike Iran comes from many quarters, to include generals in the Administration who always think first in terms of settling problems through force, from a Saudi government obsessed with fear over Iranian hegemony, and, of course, from Israel itself. But what makes the war engine run is provided by American Jews who have taken upon themselves the onerous task of starting a war with a country that does not conceivably threaten the United States. They have been very successful at faking the Iranian threat, so much so that nearly all Republican and most Democratic congressmen as well as much of the media seem to be convinced that Iran needs to be dealt with firmly, most definitely by using the U.S. military, and the sooner the better.
And while they are doing it, the issue that nearly all the Iran haters are Jewish has somehow fallen out of sight, as if it does not matter. But it should matter. A recent article in the New Yorker on stopping the impending war with Iran strangely suggests that the current generation “Iran hawks” might be a force of moderation regarding policy options given the lessons learned from Iraq. The article cites as hardliners on Iran David Frum, Max Boot, Bill Kristol and Bret Stephens.
Daniel Larison over at The American Conservative has a good review of the New Yorker piece entitled “Yes, Iran Hawks Want Conflict with Iran,” which identifies the four above cited hawks by name before describing them as “…a Who’s Who of consistently lousy foreign policy thinking. If they have been right about any major foreign policy issue in the last twenty years, it would be news to the entire world. Every single one of them hates the nuclear deal with Iran with a passion, and they have argued in favor of military action against Iran at one point or another. There is zero evidence that any of them would oppose attacking Iran.”
And I would add a few more names, Mark Dubowitz, Michael Ledeen and Reuel Marc Gerecht of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies; Daniel Pipes of the Middle East Forum; John Podhoretz of Commentary magazine; Elliot Abrams of the Council on Foreign Relations; Meyrav Wurmser of the Middle East Media Research Institute; Kimberly Kagan of the Institute for the Study of War; and Frederick Kagan, Danielle Pletka and David Wurmser of the American Enterprise Institute. And you can also throw into the hopper entire organizations like The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) and the Hudson Institute. And yep, they’re all Jewish, plus most of them would self-describe as neo-conservatives. And I might add that only one of the named individuals has ever served in any branch of the American military – David Wurmser was once in the Navy reserve. These individuals largely constitute a cabal of sanctimonious chairborne warriors who prefer to do the heavy thinking while they let others do the fighting and dying.
So it is safe to say that much of the agitation to do something about Iran comes from Israel and from American Jews. Indeed, I would opine that most of the fury from Congress re Iran comes from the same source, with AIPAC showering our Solons on the Potomac with “fact sheets” explaining how Iran is worthy of annihilation because it has pledged to “destroy Israel,” which is both a lie and an impossibility as Tehran does not have the resources to carry out such a task. The AIPAC lies are then picked up and replayed by an obliging media, where nearly every “expert” who speaks about the Middle East on television and radio or who is interviewed for newspaper stories is Jewish.
One might also add that neocons as a group were founded by Jews and are largely Jewish, hence their universal attachment to the state of Israel. They first rose into prominence when they obtained a number of national security positions during the Reagan Administration and their ascendancy was completed when they staffed senior positions in the Pentagon and White House under George W. Bush. Recall for a moment Paul Wolfowitz, Doug Feith, and Scooter Libby. Yes, all Jewish and all conduits for the false information that led to a war that has spread and effectively destroyed much of the Middle East. Except for Israel, of course. Philip Zelikow, also Jewish, in a moment of candor, admitted that the Iraq War, in his opinion, was fought for Israel.
Add to the folly a Jewish U.S. Ambassador to Israel who identifies with the most right-wing Israeli settler elements, a White House appointed chief negotiator who is Jewish and a Jewish son-in-law who is also involved in formulating Middle East policy. Is anyone providing an alternative viewpoint to eternal and uncritical support for Benjamin Netanyahu and his kleptocratic regime of racist thugs? I think not.
There are a couple of simple fixes for the dominant involvement of American Jews in foreign policy issues where they have a personal interest due to their ethnicity or family ties. First of all, don’t put them into national security positions involving the Middle East, where they will potentially be conflicted. Let them worry instead about North Korea, which does not have a Jewish minority and which was not involved in the holocaust. This type of solution was, in fact, somewhat of a policy regarding the U.S. Ambassador position in Israel. No Jew was appointed to avoid any conflict of interest prior to 1995, an understanding that was violated by Bill Clinton (wouldn’t you know it!) who named Martin Indyk to the post. Indyk was not even an American citizen at the time and had to be naturalized quickly prior to being approved by congress.
Those American Jews who are strongly attached to Israel and somehow find themselves in senior policy making positions involving the Middle East and who actually possess any integrity on the issue should recuse themselves, just as any judge would do if he were presiding over a case in which he had a personal interest. Any American should be free to exercise first amendment rights to debate possible options regarding policy, up to and including embracing positions that damage the United States and benefit a foreign nation. But if he or she is in a position to actually create those policies, he or she should butt out and leave the policy generation to those who have no personal baggage.
For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
As none of the above is likely to happen, the only alternative is for American citizens who are tired of having their country’s national security interests hijacked by a group that is in thrall to a foreign government to become more assertive about what is happening. Shine a little light into the darkness and recognize who is being diddled and by whom. Call it like it is. And if someone’s feelings are hurt, too bad. We don’t need a war with Iran because Israel wants one and some rich and powerful American Jews are happy to deliver. Seriously, we don’t need it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11771952/Two-Israelis-charged-in-arson-attack-on-Church-of-Loaves-and-Fishes.html
And I also wanted to mention the disservice to this country and yourself done by Valerie Plame for her disavowal of this article, and even worse, her pandering apology for tweeting it. She and everyone else in the political arena and media knows it to be true. I'm shocked she was so easily intimidated.
Nevertheless, I will continue to post on internet articles about Mid East policy making your assessment as follows: “….the Israeli government is a rogue regime ….Worse still, it has successfully manipulated.. the US, and has done terrible damage both to our political system and to the American people, a crime that I just cannot forgive, condone, or explain away."
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“Why the Media Loves Antifa!”
“Trump’s Jews and Generals!”
Its laughable that society still has haters against the Jews when they are less than 1% of the population. So stop trying to motivate the troops for your own political and financial gains, because you are the lowest form of life, lower than defecation on the bottom of the ocean!
With the businessman, Trump, in charge America would probably manage to wage wars at a lesser cost.
In a not-so-long-ago Congressional hearing; John Kerry divulged – stressing the point twice! – that the Saudis had proposed to underwrite all expenses for a US war to topple the Assad regime would incur.
Imagine how much easier starting a war with Iran would look to Trump if the Saudis were ready to pay for it.
Wow, Phil, you hit another one right out of the ball park!
Still good tho :-)
The only reason the average American is silenced about parasitical Zionists and Israel is because they’ve had their head filled with various absurd fictions such as Holocaust propaganda, “Judeo-Christian values”, and Jews being a uniquely righteous, exceptional, and persecuted people. The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are scientifically impossible frauds.
see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
http://codoh.com
No name calling, level playing field debate here:
http://forum.codoh.comWe're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable 'holocaust' storyline is the message.
Trump will exterminate the Iranians.
What an albino illiterate zionist stooge can do to civilized people like Persians? Iranian civilization is older than 7000 years with proven facts. YOU, the mass murderers, will be destroyed first, yet the Persians will be here to purge the ziofascits baby killers.
Translation, the US brass has been sending the US boys to fight with ISIS for Golan Heghts to please Israel.
Each and every war veteran of the Middle Eastern wars has to send a note of reparation to each and every prominent ziocon.
Well said Mr Giraldi! Unfortunately the Jewish Mafia in this country won’t allow truth to be said and will do anything to keep us in the dark!
Amen brother! And I would like to throw some gasoline on your Neocon fire. President Trump has never worked with military generals before and he is extremely naive to their absolute Machiavellian manipulation of him. Most generals today are expert political backstabbers who advanced during the tragic Neocon and PC era of the past 30 years. Who can forget the disgusting General Casey when he said, “And what happened at Fort Hood was a tragedy, but I believe it would be an even greater tragedy if our diversity becomes a casualty here.” The generals that Trump hired for his administration are now running circles around him, particularly McMaster. They want war to keep the Neocons happy and that is what this crop of generals has been trained to do.
When you get right down to it though, you people are saying that only the rich, influential Jews around the world are the ones controlling the course of the Middle East, the United States and God only knows how many other countries so that number is what, about 20 to 30 thousand people? Hell, let's go crazy and say it's one hundred thousand people. Is that what you are saying?
Seriously, is that what you people truly believe? If so then perhaps you should consider investing in Alcoa and other aluminum processors so you can have a ready supply of foil hats available to block out their insidious mind control beams.
Antisemitism is the one of the longest running games of finger pointing in the history of mankind. Since before the time of Christ Jews have been the world's whipping post, with no reasonable reason given. I seriously thought that thinking like this had gone the way of the pogroms that swept from one end to the European and Asian continents and back again in the middle Ages, which is what your level of reasoning amounts to.
All I can say is thank God that you people are a distinct minority in the world and that your paranoia filled conspiracies are still nothing but the ravings of a minuscule fringe of today's society. And God help us if you ever break into the mainstream.
Jews are white.
As a tribe, once can read Kevin MacDonald's work to see how they work in remarkable ethnic cohesion--not necessarily as an "organized conspiracy" (though that certainly happens), but as an ethnic drive.
Being neither European as such, nor Christian, and although their skin is white, they are not White.
"White" implies a lack of detectable sub-saharan African and Arab genes if we are speaking about any tribe from Europe, the ME, or Africa. Racial Jews have both.
The statement that "Jews are White" is not only false insofar as they are concerned, but is also an implication that other Whites can have African genes but remain as White as Whites without them.
Jews are obsessed with outrunning their race-mixing shame, or in other words with outrunning the African gene, which is a large motivator behind their equality politics. They are essentially a race mixed tribe who couldn't deal with:
1. what they did in a race mixing context
2. what they did as justification for further race mixing or extinction
3. the spiritual (as per God's biblical edicts) implications of their race mixing
4. and the practical (HBD) ramifications of their race mixing.
So, in essence, we have a tribe who has long resigned themselves to creating a world wherein there is no better tribe than their race mixed tribe, where their race mixed tribe is somehow looked upon as god's tribe, and in which they survive as an inbred race mixed tribe.
They can never outrun their gene, and will always be sore about that fact. Everytime that you see a "Jew Fro", be reminded of their gene, what they claim about themselves, and their motivations.
That god's tribe is a race-mixed tribe is a ridiculous notion. God, as a concept, is both nature and a racial King (both concepts can be readily proven in historical religious studies - the "unknowable" god that Jews currently present to outsiders is a parallel to the mesopotamian AN, and other non-anthropomorphic sky god's that always come into existence when a tribe wants to rule multiple other tribes and therefore needs to depart from the racial King concept).
Most race mixed tribe's would come to the conclusion that either continued race mixing or fading into the good night would be reasonable outcomes for them. However, with this tribe we have a refusal to concede to their past sin and thus a demand for all other pure tribes to be destroyed so that they may thrive and rule.
PROTHINK.ORG
access to universities and government positions - they are a separate race, deserving of special status
within Israel - they are white and all of a sudden proudly European, and disgusted by immigrants
when seeking upscale housing and social status benefits, they are 110% white.
when denouncing American Nationalists, they are a separate race of wise and learned individuals
when supporting unrestricted immigration in the US, they are white people with a conscious
when applying for welfare benefits in New jersey and New York, completely separate race and oppressed minority,
They are chameleons that manipulate every other group they interact act with.
They are the wolf in sheep's clothing
We are. So are Hispanics, Arabs, persians, etc., etc. What's the point?
just like they acquire western firstnames, they mix to sneak in.
Europeans know this topic very well.
Too well in my opinion.
I like ‘Chairborne warrior,’ but ‘Chairborne Ranger’ has a better ring to it. The Dead Kennedys had a song entitled ‘Winnebago Warrior,’ but I doubt you would ever find one of these guys pulling a Winnebago.
On another note, these folks have such a hate-on for Iran, they are willing to be in bed with Wahabbi KSA. Go figure.
Though it goes against political correctness (itself a term invented in the DDR (East Germany) to describe those not on board with the regime, what is stated is obvious to those looking at it dispassionately. If, as a result things go wrong, provided we survive the failure, scapegoats will be sought after for the debacle.
Yet, in a classic, paradox-tinged pro-Israel loop-back, the ‘alt-Right’ and ‘white nationalist’ movement, is increasing positive links with security-fence-building, also-ethnic-nationalist Israel:
The above from an interesting article by British activist and Nazareth, Palestine resident Jonathan Cook, speaking of how Israel’s Netanyahu is making an alliance with even the anti-Semitic Western alt-right, with the instinct to show all other Jews that Israel is their only home & safe haven … and hence the ‘progressive’ Jews should abandon any support for boycott of Israel or for Palestinian rights:
I guess Bolsheviks never change wherever they live.
Neocon is just another way of saying Bolshevik.
Same people. Same envy of others who they know are superior to them.
You know Alfred, that producing comments of such egregious political inaccuracy & ignorance is helpful only to Elites who are able to flourish in a media landscape of lies, half truths, & emotional irrationally.
Yes, I'm sure you can cherry pick "similarities" however, such should not justify your terminological & conceptual confusion. (Another favorite is to say, oh, the Nazi's & Stalinism were the same: both are forms of totalitarianism)
I'll believe that the first time I hear a neocon call for the nationalization of a bank. That's the sort of thing a real Bolshevik would call for. Neocon's instead get checks from bankers, which puts them on the entirely opposite side of things.
Dude: You really need to get some psychiatric help for your anti-Semitism. Yikes! WTF is wrong with you? Did your dad run off with a Jewish woman or something? Spike Lee’s dad did so I understand his anti-Semitism. What caused yours? Get some help, you sick f–k.
Ho hum! I'll Try Again!
I am not an anti-Semite. I like Arabs.
Arabs, including Palestinians, are 99% Semitic peoples (peoples from the Middle East). The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites (from the Middle East). Jews are relatively recent converts, hailing from Europe, mostly Poland, Germany, and Russia.
Koestler's book "The Thirteenth Tribe," is just one of a hundred places to peruse this line of research.
Zionist Jews are the worst Racist anti-Semites on the planet, as they hate Arabs (Semites), murder them by the millions, steal their land, and slander them (Semites).
Participants on this forum - kindly clean up your terminology. Recall that Orwell's major complaint in his famous 1984, was that the oppressing Oligarchs were cynically destroying our ability to reason, through the destruction of our use of Linguistic Communication. Call it the Mainstream Hollywood Syndrome.
It is doubly difficult to resist oppression if we are not able to conceptualize our imprisonment.
Restore the Republic!
Durruti
Giraldi on Freud's couch. ROTFL.
Oh my – more delusions of Jew grandeur – he thinks Jews can completely ignore the reality of their deeds and cover them up with “in your face attacks.”
Poor Little Jew - his Stockholm Syndrome attack is getting him nowhere.
Little Jews listen to Big Jews and coerce their fellow humans with intimidation and big lies. (The Big Jews end up the gold - the Little Jews the troubles.)
Think Peace --- Art
So I prefer to refer to them as Zionists rather than 'jews' as I do not want to smear a whole religion for what some who run a bad government do.
Gosh Phil,
At last, a wonderful, truthful article recognizing the facts about which no-one may speak unless they have giant balls of brass. You must be so endowed.
Well spoken indeed.
“And I would add a few more names, Mark Dubowitz, Michael Ledeen and Reuel Marc Gerecht…”
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business”.
This even became known as “The Ledeen Doctrine”; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable “small crappy little country”. If so, he is very badly mistaken.
This is not possible without White Submissivism to Jewish Globalism.
That's why Jews freaked out about Charlottesville.
Charlottesville called for White Liberation/Independence from Globalism.
Without Whites serving as attack dogs and drone bees, Jewish Power will wilt.... just like British Power in India wilted when the People of Dot pushed for Indian Disobedience.
Charlottesville was about Ethno-Disobedience against Globalism.
White Disobedience will be the most revolutionary force in the world. The Uncuckening.
It’s more likely that the western establishment is hiring some Jews to hide themselves than Jews really being behind driving wars.
Anyone who reads knows that Israel (and its agents, where not dual citizens, the Jewish ones effectively all are, and the goyim dupes and toadies, who are not, 'cept sometimes with marriage) have been the tail that wags the US dog for many years, starting over a century ago, in finance, commerce, and law in NYC, in a small way the scope is ever wider and the effects more and more blatant.
The USA is a colony of Israel, everybody is knowing it, but some lie and deny.
From my reading of history, I would placing the tipping point from 'excessive power' to 'colonial masters' at the 1967 war of Israel and its neighbours.
Others may dating it to the end of the Third Reich, with all sorts of Jewish DPs and US Jews who had never seen combat running around in US military and MP uniforms to persecuting and killing Germans, under the command of Eisenhauer, the Morgenthau plan, etc.
Others may picking a different time.
It is funny that you are posting as Anonymous on this, can only mean that you are a more subtle pro-Israel troll with your usual u-name.
With all due respect, isn’t that a rather oddly mild term to use, when:
‘Descendants of invading aliens, both then as now ethnic-cleansing squatters whose preferred m.o. is by murdering force [~70 bloody years long with no end anywhere in sight], whilst continually lying about it’ – would be a bit more apposite? OK; much longer, but IMHO accuracy is key. rgds
Do you think we’ll ever see a headline like this splashed across the front pages or television screens of the Lugenpresse of Weimerica (LOW)? What am I saying? Why should we expect the LOW to publish such headlines when non-interventionist sites, like antiwar.com, are terrified of doing so?
It takes real courage to defy The Lobby, but, unfortunately, few have it.
Co-Authors Reflect Ten years After Publishing Controversial Book,
'The Israel Lobby'
https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview-podcast/coauthors-reflect-ten-years-after-publishing-controversial-book-the-israel-lobby/912a4c83-8144-442e-99b2-93e6156f39f4
"The 2007 book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy argued that a loose coalition of interests, which supports Israel, lobbies the U.S. government to skew U.S. foreign policy to Israel’s favor. The authors also assert this reality damages, both America’s and Israel’s, long-term interests. “The Israel Lobby” ignited a firestorm of debate. Critics accused the authors of giving voice to historic anti-Semitic slurs. Supporters hailed the book as opening a door to needed dialogue on a taboo subject.
Ten years later, the book’s co-authors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, join Worldview to discuss the changes in Middle East dialogue in the decade since they wrote the book. Mearsheimer is professor of political science at the University of Chicago and authored numerous books including, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics. Walt is a professor of International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. He also authored the book, Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy."
What do we do with the SJW Jews who are destroying so much on the domestic front? They are worse than the Zionist Israel-Onliers.
From an April 2003 Haaretz article:
The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible.
This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
If we’re not careful, these same treacherous back-stabbing thugs will get the USA involved in a hot war with Iran, while Israel sets on the sideline, laughing about how gullible and stupid those Americans are.
If Jews are “white”, they are a special kind. The Jews, you see, are “God’s chosen” people with a special relationship with the diety … something that eludes the rest of the human race. Jews, at least for the hardcore, must be born of Jewish mothers. So, evidently the privilege of being “chosen” is a genetic disposition associated with the female mitochondria that must be handed down from one generation to another. Therefore, the rest of us, born of non-Jewish mothers, do not and cannot have this privilege.
It takes real courage to defy The Lobby, but, unfortunately, few have it.
This was made for you, Geo.
Co-Authors Reflect Ten years After Publishing Controversial Book,
‘The Israel Lobby’
https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview-podcast/coauthors-reflect-ten-years-after-publishing-controversial-book-the-israel-lobby/912a4c83-8144-442e-99b2-93e6156f39f4
“The 2007 book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy argued that a loose coalition of interests, which supports Israel, lobbies the U.S. government to skew U.S. foreign policy to Israel’s favor. The authors also assert this reality damages, both America’s and Israel’s, long-term interests. “The Israel Lobby” ignited a firestorm of debate. Critics accused the authors of giving voice to historic anti-Semitic slurs. Supporters hailed the book as opening a door to needed dialogue on a taboo subject.
Ten years later, the book’s co-authors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, join Worldview to discuss the changes in Middle East dialogue in the decade since they wrote the book. Mearsheimer is professor of political science at the University of Chicago and authored numerous books including, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics. Walt is a professor of International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. He also authored the book, Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy.”
The debate about the Mearsheimer/Walt book continues. 60 Minutes declines to do a segment:https://snuffysmithsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/debate-about-mearsheimerwalt-book.htmlWalt & Mearsheimer’s Proof That ‘Tail Wagged the Dog’ Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos:http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me/Mearsheimer/Walt 'The Israel Lobby' book mentioned during following radio show Phil Giraldi was on yesterday:http://renseradioarchives.com/archives/USS_Liberty/101217.mp3
That’d be “counter – semitism” to you Freud.
I’m strongly against any war with Iran, but this comes of as an unhinged and bigoted rant. Not nearly everyone who is pushing for war with Iran is Jewish, and this narrative perpetuates the myth, beloved by alt-right types and paleocons, of a well-intentioned but naive Trump administration that was hijacked by Jewish neocons. In reality, despite differences within the administration, Iran was always something they could all agree on. H.R. McMaster and James Mattis are well known Iran hawks, and neither are Jewish. Nikki Haley isn’t Jewish, nor is Rex Tillerson. Steve Bannon and Michael Flynn wouldn’t have stopped Trump from going to war if they hadn’t been forced out of the administration, as both, especially the latter, were absolute lunatics when it came to Iran. On that subject, they were worse than neocons. And of course there’s Trump himself, whose bloodlust regarding Iran has always been on full display from the beginning, if you were paying attention. Hostility toward Iran might in fact be the most consistent theme of the Trump administration and of Trump himself, who has been known to vacillate on virtually every issue, except this one.
If you supported Trump because you thought he might be some sort of isolationist dove, you have only yourself to blame. Evil Jewish neocons didn’t force you to ignore the massive evidence that was always right in front of your face.
The Evil Empire and its Evil b!tch both share the same satanic vision of world domination. Two evil nations, made for each other, in a match made in Hell.
Btw, the orange scumbag was hilariously evil at the UN.
Both N.Korea and Iran should simply call this bastard's bluff, by literally giving him the finger. I say, let the chips fall where they may. Let's see how the American, Japanese, S.Korean, Israeli & "Royal" pussies like the consequences.
To you N.Koreans, its been written that you will target the thousands of American Terrorists stationed in the south. I am counting on that, so don't you miss chaps.
His grandchildren are Jews. His money is entwined with Jews. His administration is staffed with Jews. His generals are also not impartial and independent – they are all Deep State players who willingly fight Israel’s battles. If they did not – they would have been purged long ago.
The whole trust of your comment is a lie – it is a ruse. Many may be Gentile – but they are not free and independent. There are NO unconstrained independent Gentile people in the US elite establishment – they all answer to the Jews agenda. Name one – name ten – name a hundred people who openly oppose the Jew scheme.
Those people live in terror of the Jews. They will all mouth the victim status of the Jews.
The recommended site, History Commons, quotes "19,700 events and more than 18,000 entities, e.g. individuals, governments/agencies, businesses and organizations." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Commons
According to Wikipedia, "The History Commons is a web site and organization that documents events and issues of great social and political significance, focusing primarily on events and issues from the 1970s to the present day." The History Commons is currently blocked on all search engines because the Commons document (among other things) the activities of Israel-firsters, which led to the ongoing wars in the Middle East.
The ziocons (deep state) are not for truth.
These are people who proudly and publicly have sworn allegiance with the Zionists state. US is just their plantation
Any war with my country will be terrible for our world.
Of course, many the Jews have huge influence in the US stablishment, but this not discharge the many Americans, military, academic or civilians who join them in destabilizing the Middle East and the whole world for their profit.
Utterly ridiculous.
Tbere’s a problem with your diagnosis, a potentially fatal problem. In contrast to your mere abuse and vituperation PG makes a reasoned case that America is being pushed towards war with Iran that cannot benefit the US by American Jews who put what they perceive as the interests of Israel first. If you can attack his case on its facts or its reasoning why don’t you do so? It could enlighten impartial readers. But perhaps you are a troll as Che Guava suggests and your purpose is to add strength to PG’s persuasiveness.
Liking your last sentence, wasn't thinking of that possibility.
Since it is Mr. Hollywood's only post (unless he is also an anon on this thread), would guessing there will be no more, if there are no more, he likely was meaning it in a less subtle way.
I doubt that the Israeli 'net influence campaigns are excluding ad hominem attacks.
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business".
This even became known as "The Ledeen Doctrine"; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable "small crappy little country". If so, he is very badly mistaken.
Surely Ledeen was being ironic or sarcastic?
Phil Giraldi’s title, admittedly, is infelicitous because it gives ammunition to ADL and their ilk to label the article, guess what,…Antisemitic, their favorite slur. Though again I disagree with the choice of his title, which makes it an easy target, I understand Giraldi’s frustration at witnessing the apocalyptic blow AIPAC delivers to the sustainability of the United States as a country. Obviously, not all Jews in DC’s and NYC’s elite are driving us to war, and of course many non-Jews are. It remains incontrovertible, however, that a very active, powerful, organized, and influential minority of people, who identify as Jewish, are restless and effective Israel-firsters. They see dragging America into Israel’s wars in the Middle East as furthering Israel’s national security interest. Only a fool would deny the obscene amount of power the Zionist faction wields in the USA.
Good for Giraldi!
RE:
BUSH-CHENEY-CLINTON-TRUMP--MCMASTER--KELLY---AND THE LOT OF THEM ALL AIN'T JEWS:
WELL PUT. GIRALDI IS A MIXED BAG, WRITES SOME GOOD STUFF, BUT IT MISIDENTIFIES THE PROBLEM--THE ENEMY-- BY LABELING IT AS "THE JEWS". THE NEO-CONS--AND NEO-LIBERALS--WHO DRIVE U.S. FOREIGN POLICY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD COME IN MANY FLAVORS.
I'M AN ANTI-ZIONIST, AND IT'S CRUCIAL TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND I DON'T QUITE GET WHY GIRALDI DOESN'T USE THE TERM ZIONIST.
That might help explain why one of our most ardent Zionists here at UR was a big supporter of DT, right from the get go.
Someone needs to visit the library more
Bullshit.
Anyone who reads knows that Israel (and its agents, where not dual citizens, the Jewish ones effectively all are, and the goyim dupes and toadies, who are not, ‘cept sometimes with marriage) have been the tail that wags the US dog for many years, starting over a century ago, in finance, commerce, and law in NYC, in a small way the scope is ever wider and the effects more and more blatant.
The USA is a colony of Israel, everybody is knowing it, but some lie and deny.
From my reading of history, I would placing the tipping point from ‘excessive power’ to ‘colonial masters’ at the 1967 war of Israel and its neighbours.
Others may dating it to the end of the Third Reich, with all sorts of Jewish DPs and US Jews who had never seen combat running around in US military and MP uniforms to persecuting and killing Germans, under the command of Eisenhauer, the Morgenthau plan, etc.
Others may picking a different time.
It is funny that you are posting as Anonymous on this, can only mean that you are a more subtle pro-Israel troll with your usual u-name.
Certainly SOME Israelis and American Jews are involved in developing policy designed to generate hostility to the point of potential war.
But Dick Cheney and Erik Prince, among other prominent non-Jews, bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Jew fixation here is duly noted. Boo! Goes the Joo!
"The USA is a colony of Israel".
Fake News Story. Now, let us assume that to be true. What are personally doing about this situation? What active measures are you taking to free yourself from the shackles of your oppressor? Or, are simply impotent while taking it good and hard?
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it's peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush - two greedy, corrupt oil barons - were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called 'christ' followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
Phil,
Do you submit everything you write to the CIA Publications Review Board? Do they badger you about your live appearances?
This morning on Fault Lines with Nixon ad Stranahan (Radio Sputnik 105.5FM, 7-10am) John Kiriakou told a story about you. I’ll post it when available.
The Neocon Jews went over to the Republican party to destroy it. They already controlled the Democrat party because they joined it and hijacked it.
Stop taking loans, don’t hire them, watch their TV/Films, friend them or listen to them.
It may seem hopeless but we are winning which is why they have turned to violence.
Too many people know now, the internet they thought would create a small world for globalism has exposed them. I recall 10 yrs ago when they ended comments on Yahoo msg boards due to exposing Jews. I was the last person in the Yahoo message boards, behind their curtain. It was funny all alone in there…:)
"The lender always wields the whip-hand."
YT voluntarily indentures himself with college loans and home mortgages.
There's plenty of marginal property here in Philly that can be developed for petty cash...
Although there has to be a willingness to home school as well..
Unless you are actually college material and are studying for a STEM degree, college is a waste of money!
I’m intrigued by the sudden anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish line on the US internet. My theory: for about 45 years, the CIA and various private American groups have been trying to destroy what is now called the EU, seen as a challenge to US global hegemony. Up to the Ukrainian coup, Putin was a neocon, and probably also CIA, “asset”. His job was to serve as a battering ram to break up the EU and then as a bogeyman to frighten the resulting plethora of small and largely defenceless statelets to cling to the US for protection, thereby restoring and reinforcing US global hegemony. The idea was to “unwin” the cold war, so to speak! Putin either double-crossed his handlers or quite simple messed up but, in either event, he went for m being an asset to being a major liability. He was discrediting the US and consequently, strengthening the EU, the very opposite of what he was supposed to do. The neocons and the CIA leadership therefore broke with Putin, without, one assumes, giving up the idea of destroying the EU. However, part of the US hegemonist “clan” still thinks it can use Putin to destroy the EU. So they held back Obama. Didn’t work. Then they tried to install a Putin stooge in the White House. Blew up in their faces. Then they tried to install a Putin stooge in France. Didn’t work. The present Israeli government seems to share the neocons’ view that Putin is a liability that must be removed. Logically, therefore, the next step must be to try to install a Putin stooge in Israel. That probably won’t work either but I think the current anti-Israel and anti-Jewish line is the start of that process. The saving grace in all this is the sheer ineptitude of the CIA. At best, their schemes don’t work and at worst, they turn out to be cures worse than the disease!
Most astute people are familiar with the term “dynamic silence.” This is what happens to people who speak too much about Jewish power, as Giraldi referred to in the first paragraph. We’ve all heard the line “you’ll never work in this town again” that lots of actors and others in showbiz are familiar with. Now where and from whom did this line of thinking originate? Hollywood and the Jews whose tight fraternity rule it and always have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgt2J54iZOQ&t=130s
Do you submit everything you write to the CIA Publications Review Board? Do they badger you about your live appearances?
This morning on Fault Lines with Nixon ad Stranahan (Radio Sputnik 105.5FM, 7-10am) John Kiriakou told a story about you. I'll post it when available.
Yes Robin they badger me about written stuff but so far not about live appearances. And I also get occasional visits from the FBI. Look forward to hearing the link…
FAULT LINES W/ NIXON AND STRANAHAN — 9/19/17 — w/ Ex-CIA John Kiriakou
John comes on at 3:16, your story at 8:45
BTW, on Monday they did a great interview (2 segments, over half hour) with Bill Binney, much about the VIPS memo to Trump regarding the DNC leak (which I think you didn't sign). Bill states, had there been an earlier hack, the NSA would have picked it up, so the VIPS memo not addressing that is irrelevant.
Wiz,
Liking your last sentence, wasn’t thinking of that possibility.
Since it is Mr. Hollywood’s only post (unless he is also an anon on this thread), would guessing there will be no more, if there are no more, he likely was meaning it in a less subtle way.
I doubt that the Israeli ‘net influence campaigns are excluding ad hominem attacks.
The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible.
This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
If we're not careful, these same treacherous back-stabbing thugs will get the USA involved in a hot war with Iran, while Israel sets on the sideline, laughing about how gullible and stupid those Americans are.
Thanks for the Haaretz link. Tom Friedman got it pretty well right.
Nope. As far as I know, he was being perfectly serious.
And that is exactly the way the power elite think – although they are usually much more cautious about speaking their mind in public.
Anyway, the American public has shown many times that it really doesn’t give a rat’s ass about foreigners being killed or maimed – not three of them, not three million of them. Foreigners might as well be bugs. What really matters is that feeling of power and superiority: their country is Top Nation and can whip anyone else, yes sir. Politicians continually rely on that undercurrent of nationalist chuavinism, and it never lets them down.
The evil empire sustains itself primarily through this attitude of its people. It does not matter how the Jews connive to shape it. Only thing that matters is that they buy into it without exercising their conscience.
Americans, remember, such glory has a cost. You will find soon enough that a cancerous soul is too high a price to be "Top Nation," for essentially a blink in cosmic time.
This always confuses me. Do people like Bibi actually want all jews to move back to Israel and is there a large contingent who agrees? I’m not sure I buy it, as much as I wish forced zionism could be utilized to finally rid ourselves of these people and the endless problems they create.
“For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.”
How does that happen? The question defies the entire article. The “Media”. The media Phil just described, is Jewish owned and operated. Who the Hell is going to get the Jewish Jeff Bezos (to cite only one example, but a huge one in Washington), who supports losing enterprise Washington Post, the AEI, the AJC and all the rest with BIG money, how are you going to get HIM to splash across the front page that Bill Kristol is, “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” ? How does that work? What are the mechanics of such a proposition? Loss of subscribers? Check, already done. Boycott the WashPost’s advertisers? They already lost those because the paper isn’t viable in the business model of a newspaper, it’s only a very loud megaphone for the Jewish interest. The damned thing runs a 60 million dollar deficit every month, supported tirelessly by Amazon. But nowadays it has become a Pro-Israeli rap-sheet, a monster-shouter for these wars, all of them. How are we to oppose THAT?
Phil also forgets (or maybe Jewish influence and owndership is so great and such a hegemony he can’t cover it all) the death-grip stranglehold Jews hold on our courts, the banks, Wall Street. Protest any of it, you’re an “Anti”, a racist, a bigot, a Nazi. The most racist, Nazi race/religion/monolith on the planet, Jews, label all who oppose it, racist. And that’s the mantra and they have the media to back it up. Oppose their instruments, the Clintons, all of a sudden, shazzzaaam! You’re dead of a robbery on the streets at 4:00 AM. There are dozens of dead on the tab of this cabal. This is Israel’s crew and nobody fucks with these guys.
Ye Gawds, growing up in the 60′s, the WashPost was hideously anti-war. Look at them now. And their new banner, “Democracy Dies In The Darkness”, boy is that an evil and disingenuous point to push, breathtaking in its dishonesty, the sheer hubris with which they operate. It went up after Obama was out and Trump in. All of a sudden, Jewish media is interested in our “Democracy”, which was never supposed to be one in the first place.
Excuse me, I need to go throw up now..
Hasbara Tactics
By controlling information one can control people and the social networks. Hasbara volunteers help to police social networks for Israel. The big media are dealt with through BICOM and AIPAC, whilst the social media are policed unofficially by the Hasbara troll brigade. Priority is to stop influencers being compromised by anti-Israel sentiment.
Troll techniques
1. Turn up randomly asking question about Israel, trying to engage/educate.
2. Guilt by association, they point to some source your are linked to as being anti-semitic or neo-nazi.
3. Opportunity to redeem – the offer chance to recant from your naive ways.
4. Smears and insults – if the top 3 fail then it’s just character assassination.
5. Name bombing – using seo in blackhat ways to denounce and smear people. ie website with 37 mentions of someones name will prob get a Page one on Google.
6. Hasbara trolls generally follow the rules of social networks, because they want to continue to influence people and subvert open and free debate.
There are forty or so congress critters and thousands of policy wonks who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. THAT is a problem.
Dual citizenship should be strictly prohibited…
Anything of substance to add? No?
Unhinged and bigoted? Bloodlust? Really?
The Zionist Jews that control the US media are fully complicit in horrific war crimes and intentionally deceiving the American people. That fact is easily proven as they have been supporting the FSA, the White Helmets and other terrorist groups and ruses in Syria. These covert actions and propaganda campaigns have led to the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent people. The entire Syrian war is being misreported in the US media. Israel and the US are on the same side with Saudi Arabia and are pumping billions of dollars to terrorist factions in the warzones. That fact is continually being covered up by the CIA infiltrated US mainstream media. The proof of such is here:
Massive White Helmets Photo Cache Proves Hollywood Gave Oscar to Terrorist Group
https://clarityofsignal.com/2017/02/27/massive-white-helmets-photo-cache-proves-hollywood-gave-oscar-to-terrorist-group/
Father of Invention: Media Portrayed Grief Stricken Dad Turns Out To Be al-Nusra Front Terrorist
https://clarityofsignal.com/2017/05/02/father-of-invention-media-portrayed-grief-stricken-dad-turns-out-to-be-al-nusra-front-terrorist/
To be fair, he is standing on the shoulders of giants. He could never have got away with this were it not for the constant stream of unz.com articles getting closer and closer to the point without actually saying it.
Still good tho
Well, he ought to know.
If an article titled “America’s Jews are Behind America’s Wars” isn’t unhinged and bigoted, I’d like you to tell me what is. If Trump’s insane rhetoric on Iran and push for war isn’t an example of bloodlust, why don’t you tell me what it is? Instead sitting there gaping with your mouth open. And if you have any substantive point to make that doesn’t consist of acting shocked and offended and triggered by my word choice, feel free to make it.
Or is it not the statement of the facts that you are outraged by, but merely the proposed solutions? If so, then what solutions to the problem identified by Giraldi and by Haaretz would you propose?Good examples might be the desperate attempts to prevent the deal with Iran that hopefully will prove to have cauterised the longstanding efforts to use the spurious nuclear weapons issue to push the US towards confrontation and war with Iran:
KEY JEWISH DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SAY THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST IRAN DEAL
Or when Israel's primary agents of political influence in the US went "all out" to try to get the US to attack Syria and hand yet another country to (even more) jihadist-ridden chaos:
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
But hey, I suppose for you those are just more examples of "unhingedness" and "bigotedness".
It must be strange living in the world you inhabit, so far removed from basic reality by a desperate need to avoid being seen as any kind of badwhite.
I wonder if Raimondo & Co. will have the gonads to pick up Phil’s piece for Antiwar.com.
No. Israel would be untenable without the support of the Jewish diaspora.
There is no mystery here. Zilch. Culture follows itself, rather like a tree follows its life pattern.
WASP culture was born from the Reformation.Specifically, it was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces culture that is pro-Semitic. That is true of even the earliest WASPs. Thomas Cromwell allied with Jews, inviting them back into England, because that made sense according to the theology that drove him and the entire Puritan Revolution.
By the beginning of the Victorian era, virtually 100% of the British Empire’s WASP Elites were rathr hardcore pro-Semitic. A majority of them were pro-Jewish, in a secular way that would have seemed wrong to ‘orthodox’ Puritans but actually was the inevitable child of that movement and its driving doctrines and passions. The rest of the pro-Semitic WASP Elites of the Victorian era were pro-Arabic and pro-Islamic (a few of those pro-Moslems were either pro-Iranian or pro-Turkish, but most were pro-Arabic).
Out of that divide would come two things: the Balfour Declaration, and thus the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, and the Brits backing the House of Saud and thus necessarily Wahhabi Islam.
The pro-Semitic nature of WASP (Elite) culture guaranteed – because nobody was powerful enough to stop WASP culture from creating them – both Israel and Saudi Arabia.
And look what we have today: the successor to the British Empire, the USA, backing both Israel and Saudi Arabia as they do endless mischief, more than a bit of it evil.
WASP culture created both Israel and the power of the Saudis. WASP cultural Elites are anything but innocent victims of Jewish and Saudi manipulations.
Typical Jew 'we didn't do nuthin', blame their own actions on WASPs.
Still obsessing about country clubs we see. LOL.
Makes sense.
I just think that the belief, which resulted in collusion now got into phase where 'minority group' simply DIRECT the way.
They are good, know what they want, control two important levers of power (finance and media) and simply go for what they want.
So, yes, collusion definitely, but which group holds primacy in defining strategic goals is open to debate.
Oliver Cromwell to a degree yes.
The Saudis were (((American))) backed while the Hashemites were the British pick.
By controlling information one can control people and the social networks. Hasbara volunteers help to police social networks for Israel. The big media are dealt with through BICOM and AIPAC, whilst the social media are policed unofficially by the Hasbara troll brigade. Priority is to stop influencers being compromised by anti-Israel sentiment.
Troll techniques
1. Turn up randomly asking question about Israel, trying to engage/educate.
2. Guilt by association, they point to some source your are linked to as being anti-semitic or neo-nazi.
3. Opportunity to redeem – the offer chance to recant from your naive ways.
4. Smears and insults – if the top 3 fail then it’s just character assassination.
5. Name bombing – using seo in blackhat ways to denounce and smear people. ie website with 37 mentions of someones name will prob get a Page one on Google.
6. Hasbara trolls generally follow the rules of social networks, because they want to continue to influence people and subvert open and free debate.
Hasbara controls FreeRepublic. They use handles like Texas Fossil, Berlin FReeper, et al. They are indefatigable in the snide vilification of Pat Buchanan, Iran, Assad, Putin, Russia and any conservatives who deviate from the neocon line. They try to dupe the patriotic conservative goyim by constantly suggesting Russia/Putin are communists/Soviets and that Iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism.
They should. If Raimondo starts blaming the Jews, he can avoid taking responsibility for his idiotic and embarrassing cheerleading for the current warmonger-in-chief.
I remember the debate between Pence and the hideous Tim Kaine where the Democrat vowed that there would be No Fly Zone over Syria which would certainly have allowed the head chopping rebels to gain a stronger foothold.
In addition to all that, Trump has also cut off aid to the Syrian rebels. His Afghanistan policy /escalation is also symbolic. US troops won't be in direct combat and there will only be 15000 there anyway.
Wow, Giraldi cracked the code!
I was in my Talmud discussion last week and we planned how to get the US to invade Iran on Israel’s behalf.
We had a bunch of powerful Jews from the media and the Bilderbergs and the Trilateral Commission and Goldman Sachs join us.
I thought the class was supposed to be top secret but I guess Giraldi has his sources.
Good work!
does SS share same cubicle.
America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars
He says that they are driving, not that every passenger in the bus is a Jew. Maybe he meant some American Jews. Aren’t some American Jews well known peaceniks?
'Peaceniks' only in matters that aren't "good for Jews".
more:
The True Cost of Parasite Israel
Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/
Thank you for yet another excellent article Mr. Giraldi.
One of my concerns when trying to imagine what could be done to wake up americans to the immense danger to our country and our true values as americans, is the fact that there is, I am certain, a problem with demographic stats.
I do not believe for a second that in the USA the percentage of jews is as low as we are usually told. After all lets not forget, where we are getting such stats from: MSM ? It is simply not true. Nothing that comes from MSM is true. It is all jew poison.
Anyhow, wherever I go, the jews are everywhere. Sure, since most of them are repulsive racists they always ensure that everybody around them knows that they are jews, which makes them seem more numerous, but guys, they are not 2% of the population.
I am going way beyond the well understood fact that power centers are controlled by the jews (from the white house to the press, Hollywood, the Fed ….. the internet).
Roars of laughter from the reader are the likeliest of sounds to follow on the heels of that gem. Sorry PG, but you’ve been pushing that story for years; at least a decade and then a few!
When shall we stop paying attention this oft-repeated, “Imminent! War on Iran!” trope?
A war on Iran is simply not on the cards. Some of us have commented on this. Netanyahu is given to melodrama and it is best to take his words with a large grain of salt. I will agree that Neocons [both Jew and Gentile] make noises about it, but there is a much larger group of similar minded, wealthy and influential [J/G] people who, discreetly and effectively, steer the ship away from these noises. Iraq has taught a lesson.
So what drives your narrow anger which can only be described a certain way?
Maybe he is frustrated and for some inexplicable reason thinks that frequently throwing red meat to the foot soldiers can accomplish something.
When shall we stop paying attention this oft-repeated, “Imminent! Iran is an Existential Threat” trope?
You will the first to be exterminated idiot.
What an albino illiterate zionist stooge can do to civilized people like Persians? Iranian civilization is older than 7000 years with proven facts. YOU, the mass murderers, will be destroyed first, yet the Persians will be here to purge the ziofascits baby killers.
I supported and voted for Trump as well. I don’t like his neocon turn now, but which candidate in that election (save for Rand Paul and possibly Jill Stein) wouldn’t have declared a non-fly zone in Syria and actively supported the overthrow of Assad? And started plans for attacking Iran? Who? Hillary? Hahahaha. Ted Cruz? Hahahaha. Etc.
The simple, publically acceptable, and eventually inexpensive and convenient solution to 90% of all these problems. Technological screening of persons in positions of power for excessive psychopathic, deceptive, and manipulative personalities. If put on cell phones as aps, say involving cell phone aps of retinal scanning, heart rate changes, etc., even prospective spouses, business partners, etc could be evaluated. “The Darkness hates the Light because the Light exposes the Darkness for it’s evil deeds.” So let’s do some exposing!
the FBI ? on what basis ?
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/351274-us-opens-first-permanent-military-base-in-israel
Justin Raimondo and faux left winger Amy Goodman of TV’s “Democracy Now” share one very curious thing in common. They both become absolutely apoplectic at the mere mention of Gilad Atzmon’s name. Atzmon is the devil incarnate to both of them, absolutely enemy number one.
I have seen Raimondo go almost insane when an audience member at one of his speeches simply mentioned Atzmon’s name. Raimondo literally became babbling and incoherent for about ten seconds seconds until he was able to recover.
For those that are unfamiliar with Gilad Atzmon, check him out here.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/141-5439335-6947367?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=gilad+atzmon
Raimondo and his site Antiwar.com and Matt Drudge also are increasingly sharing something else in common. The articles they link to on their web pages are now often coming off absolutely unreliable, rabidly pro Israel sites like the Rothschild family owned Associated Press and Reuters pages.
So what drives your narrow anger which can only be described a certain way?
Maybe he is frustrated and for some inexplicable reason thinks that frequently throwing red meat to the foot soldiers can accomplish something.
All wars since 1913 with passage of Zionist sponsored Federal Reserve and the IRS have been Zionist wars and the latest in the ME were brought on by 911 which was done by Zionist Israel and the U.S. deep state, and just as a parasite eventually kills its host so will the Zionists kill America.
Hahaaaa. Good one. It would be interesting to graph PG’s increasing shrillness over at least the last twelve years on the subject.
I think we are witnessing a peak, yet I might be wrong; soon to be followed by the Protocols? As a Jew should I recuse myself from all commentary? But then, I forget, I lack a conscience, or something, something…….
Noble admission, Sam The Sham!
Those who lack conscience and wield power are most to be feared and exposed.
Selah.
We must not passover Shama's foolish description of Mr. Giraldi's daring words as "shrillness."
In addition, Sam The Sham must have missed Mr. Giraldi's comment # 37 where one can learn he's already "graphed" by CIA and FBI ! As a shrill Jew, Shammy should run to the authorities and report that P.G. knows he's being "tailed."
Selah.
One point where Shama is correct (by accident) is his words, "we are witnessing a peak."
Donald Trump is the latest in a dynastic line of ZUSA emperors. His key job assignment is to eliminate the threat of the Islamic Republic of Iran and facilitate plans for M.E. map redrawing to include Greater Israel.
Selah.
Before 9/11, please note how ZUSA co-emperor W. Bush Cheney reigned? How convenient for Ariel Sharon to be leading the "only democracy in the Middle East!" And we goyim must wonder (in awe) as to why the hell 9/11 never underwent serious crime investigation?
Selah.
I conclude now with the theater presentation observable during the reign of ZUSA Emperor Obama. As a smooth but deceptive Nobel Peace prize winner, Obama knew that the nuclear weapons deal with Iran was born to fail. Evidence of his duo- royal loyalty was the gift of $3.9 billion and its extension for ten (10) years to Netanyahu's Iran-hating & scandal plagued government.
Selah.
It's soon likely that Corporate Media "Talking Heads" (especially Fox News) will be repeating the mantra of crooked / approved regime historians who will report, "Obama was Chamberlain and now the Homeland is lucky to have a Churchill in the tweets of President Donald J. Trump!"
Selah peak shrill Jew.
Of course I had to allow scripts from truetorahjews.org in order to comment.
So much for Unz.
By way of a reminder: http://www.unz.com/article/international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/#comment-1890518
Anyone who reads knows that Israel (and its agents, where not dual citizens, the Jewish ones effectively all are, and the goyim dupes and toadies, who are not, 'cept sometimes with marriage) have been the tail that wags the US dog for many years, starting over a century ago, in finance, commerce, and law in NYC, in a small way the scope is ever wider and the effects more and more blatant.
The USA is a colony of Israel, everybody is knowing it, but some lie and deny.
From my reading of history, I would placing the tipping point from 'excessive power' to 'colonial masters' at the 1967 war of Israel and its neighbours.
Others may dating it to the end of the Third Reich, with all sorts of Jewish DPs and US Jews who had never seen combat running around in US military and MP uniforms to persecuting and killing Germans, under the command of Eisenhauer, the Morgenthau plan, etc.
Others may picking a different time.
It is funny that you are posting as Anonymous on this, can only mean that you are a more subtle pro-Israel troll with your usual u-name.
“So it is safe to say that much of the agitation to do something about Iran comes from Israel and from American Jews.”
Certainly SOME Israelis and American Jews are involved in developing policy designed to generate hostility to the point of potential war.
But Dick Cheney and Erik Prince, among other prominent non-Jews, bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Jew fixation here is duly noted. Boo! Goes the Joo!
“The USA is a colony of Israel”.
Fake News Story. Now, let us assume that to be true. What are personally doing about this situation? What active measures are you taking to free yourself from the shackles of your oppressor? Or, are simply impotent while taking it good and hard?
Jeff Bezos is not a Jew.
The Negev installation has been there for about a decade. Together with the new missile defense system at Beersheva, they monitor and provide a defense against any joint Iranian and Hezbollah offensives. All U.S. allies in the region are glad for it.
What joint offensive?
Last time Israel butted heads with Hezbollah is when Israel _invaded_ Lebanon.
As in an offensive against the sovereign state of Lebanon by Israel.
{All U.S. allies in the region....}
Would that include the medieval head-chopping Wahhabist, terrorist sponsoring Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? The one currently conducting mass murder and war crimes in Yemen?
You folks really think you can vote your way out of this mess?
Coup d’état or shut-up; also, no dual citizenship–ever.
I had emailed the following comment to a friend just a few hours ago. It seems germane, so I’m taking the liberty of just pasting it here, in the context of the Iran policy discussion :
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As you know I had high hopes of Trump, based mostly on my wishful thinking about his dog-whistles. Now I am mostly inclined to view him in terms appropriate to the sell-out to the Judaic world order detailed by Petras in his recent article on Who Rules America.
The main serious person I know of who continues to harbour hopes about Trump’s hidden agenda is Mark Glenn of The Ugly Truth.
I had shared with you my opinion that the anti-Iran bluster was just that, given that Russia is Iran’s strategic partner. But lately I concluded that it was probably just dangerous Judaic policy. A recent editorial essay in Rothschild’s Economist has given me pause. The article strongly opposes taking on the nuclear pact with Iran. So what are the mega-Jews concerned about? Maybe Trump intends to lever Iran into nuclear status. Their leadership says that’s what will happen. Trump, like Bannon with his absurd affirmations of allegiance to Judeo-Christian civilisation, might be loving the Jews to death. A nuclear armed Iran might very well be what humanity needs. And America as well. Just a thought.
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21728896-it-right-worry-about-irans-growing-influence-trump-administration-may-be-about
I know this will not convince you. That’s okay. It’s just a possibility. But keep it tucked away in a recess of your head for future reference.
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If Iran gives every indication of proceeding with nuclear arming, once the US leaves it no alternative, it would require a nuclear umbrella until such time as it could defend itself. That might come from Russian or Chinese nukes under the rubric of SCO. Like American nukes in Turkey and Germany, these could be put at the disposal of the Iranis without violating the Non-Proliferarion Treaty, or at least no more than the American nukes under foreign control do.
{…monitor and provide a defense against any joint Iranian and Hezbollah offensives.}
What joint offensive?
Last time Israel butted heads with Hezbollah is when Israel _invaded_ Lebanon.
As in an offensive against the sovereign state of Lebanon by Israel.
{All U.S. allies in the region….}
Would that include the medieval head-chopping Wahhabist, terrorist sponsoring Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? The one currently conducting mass murder and war crimes in Yemen?
http://www.resalat-news.com/fa/?code=251219A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
Outside of an almost symbolic launch of cruise missiles into Syria in April, how has Trump been a warmonger?
I remember the debate between Pence and the hideous Tim Kaine where the Democrat vowed that there would be No Fly Zone over Syria which would certainly have allowed the head chopping rebels to gain a stronger foothold.
In addition to all that, Trump has also cut off aid to the Syrian rebels. His Afghanistan policy /escalation is also symbolic. US troops won’t be in direct combat and there will only be 15000 there anyway.
Including the Tomahawks in April, that's a total of 6 deliberate attacks on the Syrian Arab Republic or its allies (so far), which is already 6 more than Obama carried out during his entire presidency. And it's not like this is the end of Trump's tenure, either; it's the 9th goddamn month since he's been in office. I'm sure the war hawks in Wahington are quite pleased with his progress, as they should be.Anyone could tell by that point that Assad isn't going to be overthrown. The aim now is to limit the Assad regime's territorial gains as much as possible, and the "rebels" proved they were useless at doing that when Shia militia reached the Iraqi border at al-Tanf, and cut them off from reaching Deir ez-Zor back in May (which was what one of the attacks mentioned above was about).
After that, the Trump administration put all its eggs in the "Syrian Democratic Forces/People's Protection Units (SDF/YPG) basket, the mainly Kurdish (with some Arab fighters) militia that the US has been using to fight ISIS since 2015 (it's also, ironically, a hard left socialist organization. Think Kurdish Antifa. Though I doubt Trump knows or cares or could do anything about it even if he did). Trump has given the SDF <a href="https://sputniknews.com/amp/middleeast/201709141057402885-america-weaponry-deir-ez-zor/"heavy weaponry with the aim of confronting Assad and limiting his territorial gains. They've also been pressuring the rebel groups they formerly supported to join the SDF.
I have sympathy for the SDF/YPG and the Syrian Kurds, and it made sense to support them when they were under direct assault from ISIS (though US motives were hardly altruistic even then). But ISIS is all but beaten now, and this is a dangerous game the US is playing, which could readily lead to a military confrontation betweeen the US and Russia and/or Iran. In fact, just a few days ago, the SDF seized part of Deir ez-Zor after SAA forces reached the city, and the Pentagon is now accusing Russia (which has in the past at least had good relations with the SDF/YPG), of deliberately bombing SDF fighters, in close proximity to American special forces.Only 15,000! I guess you wouldn't mind, then, if they Taliban, or the Afghan Army for that matter, or any other country, put 15,000 troops on American soil, as a "symbolic" gesture.
Trump has also accelerated US collaboration in the sadistic torture of Yemen by the Saudis, past the levels under even Obama, which was already shameful.
And again, we should also keep in mind that it's only been 9 months. For his next act, Trump might be thinking about ending the Iran deal in October.
You are confusing Big Israel+militarists with Jews.
Anti Zionist Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
http://www.truetorahjews.org
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro explains the reasons why Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Israeli army
Maybe Mr Unz could include some ‘true’ Jews amoung his commentators.
There are also secular Jewish anti Zionists.
In fact, there are Orthodox who firmly support the state of Israel, including Orthodox who have immigrated to Israel.
One comment that Rabbi Shapiro made was that the Israeli military didn't need or want the Orthodox Yeshiva students. If true, the question or drafting Yeshiva students becomes a matter of internal Israeli policy, to be determined by the political process in Israel. If so, what can the effect of a rally in New York, USA be? Are the Orthodox trying to influence US pressure on Israel? Why should the government of Israel listen to New York Orthodox at all?
As far as the internal politics of Israel, many of the people on this thread see Israel as the racist aggressor in the Middle East, pressuring the US to cause chaos and destruction in the area.
I'm an American Firster, but I do support the existence of Israel. I think it's the responsibility of Israel, and not the US to maintain the existence of Israel. I fully support the commenter who wanted to do away with dual ciizenship. A citizen can have only one primary loyalty. This extends to dual citizenship with Israel, Mexico, Iran, or Hungary (though I have much sympathy with Hungarian citizens).
The government of Israel wants the character of Israel to be Jewish (although Rabbi Shapiro would argue, not TOO Jewish. That's an internal Israeli affair, on which I wish to have no influence. In my opinion, any state that wishes to maintain its existence will have to pursue policies that could be termed as racist. Like, the US totally excluding Muslims from further immigration. Racist perhaps, and totally necessary. But, the US should not become involved in the internal affairs of other countries. And yes, that means stopping US foreign aid to Israel.
As far as the 2003 attack on Iraq being a result of Jewish dual loyalists: it's possible. But, if so, let me point out that whatever influence the Jewish neocons had on the Iraqi attack was the stupidest ever. In fact, Jewish popular opinion tends, in my opinion, to be extremely stupid and self-destructive. In 2003, there were at least two states in the Middle East very hostile to Israel: Iraq and Iran. Who was the biggest enemy of Iran: Iraq. So, was taking out Iraq as a country helpful to Israel? Now, Iran is no longer facing Iraq, which had the population, and is only facing Saudi Arabia, which has only money and mercenaries. Was Israel a net beneficiary? So, if the neocons were acting out of Israel's interest and not the US's, they were being extremely stupid. I do consider neocons to be stupid, but that's the point.
Looking at Jewish US popular opinion, Jews voted 70% for Obama and almost the same proportion for Hillary in 2016. Is it in the interest of US Jews to bring in more Muslims? More Muslims in Sweden and France have made parts of those countries unbearable for the Jews, who favored the open border policies. If you look on the websites of Jewish organizations in the US, you'll see almost universal horror at the very mild travel exclusions of the Trump Presidency. Whatever Jewish influence there is, runs directly counter to the real interests of Jewish US citizens.
Someone mentioned that Israel itself is instituting ideological tests for aliya, or Jewish immigration to Israel. I think this is a sensible policy for Israel. If Israel wishes to maintain its character, the immigrants should reflect the ideological and cultural identity of the current population. But, I wish to make that an internal policy of Israel through, at a minimum, ceasing foreign aid to Israel and doing away with dual citizenship.
Purim festival 2.0
Certainly SOME Israelis and American Jews are involved in developing policy designed to generate hostility to the point of potential war.
But Dick Cheney and Erik Prince, among other prominent non-Jews, bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Jew fixation here is duly noted. Boo! Goes the Joo!
"The USA is a colony of Israel".
Fake News Story. Now, let us assume that to be true. What are personally doing about this situation? What active measures are you taking to free yourself from the shackles of your oppressor? Or, are simply impotent while taking it good and hard?
… but Corvinus, I am not a USA person, so your ‘watcha gonna do about it’ is to falling flat.
From Money Manipulation And Social Order (Dublin: Browne and Nolan, 1944) by Fr. Denis Fahey, C.S.Sp., Professor of Philosophy and Church History, Holy Ghost Missionary College, Dublin:
Gorgar approves of this article and takes some comfort in knowing that the goyim are waking up.
This has been obvious for decades. I used to call Joe Lieberman, the Senator from Tel Aviv. I was explaining to my son the other night, who the neocons are and from where they came. I doubt most Americans have a clue.
Same people. Same envy of others who they know are superior to them.
“Neocon is just another way of saying Bolshevik.”
You know Alfred, that producing comments of such egregious political inaccuracy & ignorance is helpful only to Elites who are able to flourish in a media landscape of lies, half truths, & emotional irrationally.
Yes, I’m sure you can cherry pick “similarities” however, such should not justify your terminological & conceptual confusion. (Another favorite is to say, oh, the Nazi’s & Stalinism were the same: both are forms of totalitarianism)
Certainly SOME Israelis and American Jews are involved in developing policy designed to generate hostility to the point of potential war.
But Dick Cheney and Erik Prince, among other prominent non-Jews, bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Jew fixation here is duly noted. Boo! Goes the Joo!
"The USA is a colony of Israel".
Fake News Story. Now, let us assume that to be true. What are personally doing about this situation? What active measures are you taking to free yourself from the shackles of your oppressor? Or, are simply impotent while taking it good and hard?
The cucks have arrived.
The only way, in the end, to get rid of an elite-imposed taboo is to ridicule it, and to break it with ever increasing impunity. Evading and thereby respecting it merely reinforces it.
Good for Giraldi!
Exactly. I was puzzled by that too. FBI? The Behavioral Analysis Unit? Or perhaps PG is pulling our legs.
I just want to point out, being a (fake) “news” consumer, I hear about Israel all the time, all while not hearing a lot of follow-up detail about Israel and its interests. Isn’t that a clever sleight of hand? According to the pro-Israel (by extension jews) propaganda I’m required to care about, despite it having nothing to do with my life, my family’s life, my neighbors’ lives, and my community’s lives… Israel is that big of a deal. Actually, I hear more about Israel in the media than I hear about my home state of Michigan. Michigan is probably a lot more important to the US economy, US security, US tourism industry, Midwestern industrial technology industry, US engineering industry, and the Midwestern Farming economy, than Israel is. Then there are the people who live here, who are Americans. Israel first, then Americans? Okay, got it.
If the public were exposed to as much emotionally captivating propaganda about Michigan as they were about Israel, I’d posit the public would see a far better investment in Michigan than they would in Israel. That includes an emotional investment.
I don’t know what can be politely said or how it would shape up, but Midwesterners desperately need to understand the Israel (by extension jewish) problem. They’re bleeding us and getting away with it, all while getting away with incessantly calling us racists and anti-semites. Because again, caring about Michigan and its people first is just morally irreprehensible. Israel first, then Israel second, etc… Got it bigot? That sleight of hand, it’s just always there. I don’t fully grasp how this large scale agit-prop psychology works. I do understand jewish solidarity. I’ll hand it to jews, they have the strongest ethnic/religious/cultural solidarity I’ve ever seen. If Midwesterners realized the value of this level of solidarity, they wouldn’t enlist their sons in the military to serve jewish interests overseas.
What joint offensive?
Last time Israel butted heads with Hezbollah is when Israel _invaded_ Lebanon.
As in an offensive against the sovereign state of Lebanon by Israel.
{All U.S. allies in the region....}
Would that include the medieval head-chopping Wahhabist, terrorist sponsoring Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? The one currently conducting mass murder and war crimes in Yemen?
It is, historically speaking, not a good idea to airily dismiss the word of hostile nations. Iran is not exactly friendly toward the U.S., is it?
This report from farsi news-reporting:
http://www.resalat-news.com/fa/?code=251219
A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
I tried Babylon but couldn't get a translation.the most basic bit of non-PhD-level hunting & pecking, and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but this bit of reindeer poo (the deer in the 'hood are really bad this time of year) --Washington Examiner
Jamie Whinestein, contributor
July 13 - 14, 2017
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/answering-tucker-carlson-why-iran-is-a-grave-threat-to-the-us/article/2628597/commentsAnswering Tucker Carlson: Why Iran is a grave threat to the UShere's what Sam Shama wrote (pasted):A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.Michael Khattib, July 13 2017, Sam Shama Sept 20, 2017
same sameJust like reindeer poo: one steaming pile looks just like every other steaming pile.btw, neither one of you steaming piles -- not Michael nor Sam -- seems to know the difference between could and would:could, simple past tense of can, where can means
to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to:the online dictionary cautions against confusing with, or misusing for, or misinterpreting could with
would, simple past tense of will, where will means
is expected or required to:
is determined or sure to (used emphatically)Here's an example:
If I roll over that steaming pile of deer poo in the driveway I could flatten it, but I would not do that because it would leave a stain on the pavers.See the difference, Sam (and Michael)? It's about ability vs intention.-----------As for your highly insightful and erudite commentary, about "Iran not being very friendly toward USA," I had a bit of a conversation with Sebastian Gorky some months ago (before Gorky was hired then fired by the Trump). Gorky said that Iran was a threat to the USA; I suggested that Gorky look at a map and count the bases USA had surrounding Iran, then tally up the bases that Iran had on or around US territory. "What is Iran doing to USA, that USA should aim so many guns at Iran, on its own home turf," I asked SG.
Honest to god -- I have it on record -- Gorky came near to popping a blood vessel when he screamed in my face: "Iran says Death to America!"
For that reason, USA should maintain Iran in the crosshairs of 36 military bases, about which, in your cribbed view, Iran should be totally complacent.
One of the great triumphs of Zionism is its success at conflating Zionism with Judaism. In some sense Zionism is the antithesis of Judaism. Zionism is the suicidal ideology that seeks to replace the native inhabitants of Palestine with alien Jews. These Jews will then be surrounded by implacable enemies who will sooner or later wipe them out. Throughout their history, Jews have had a fatal attraction to this kind of zealotry. It’s why Jews have a fascination with communism and it’s what got the Jews booted out of Palestine, in the first place, nearly two thousand years ago.
Anyway, the vast majority of American Jews voted for the anti-Iraq war candidate in 2008 over the "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" candidate.
Giraldi clearly has an emotionally based animus toward and obsession with Jews. Good for the American Conservative.
The title isn’t unhinged and bigoted if it’s true. If you’re really interested in learning more, I suggest the 2003 BBC Documentary, “The War Party.” It should still be available on YouTube. It shed quite a bit of light on the Jewish effort behind the Iraq war without intending to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4
The War Party-Panorama-BBC
Here is who led us into this mess. Meet the NEOCONS and what they want.
http://www.resalat-news.com/fa/?code=251219A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
You’re right, it’s not a good idea for Iran to airily dismiss the word of hostile nations. I’m glad they have the capability, if need be, to destroy the hostile military bases that encircle them and are intended to threaten them. I can only imagine the American response if there were Iranian military bases in Canada and Mexico.
How is the article’s factual content fundamentally different from the similar content of the Haaretz article linked by Greg Bacon in post 21 above? Is the Haaretz piece “unhinged and bigoted”?
Or is it not the statement of the facts that you are outraged by, but merely the proposed solutions? If so, then what solutions to the problem identified by Giraldi and by Haaretz would you propose?
Good examples might be the desperate attempts to prevent the deal with Iran that hopefully will prove to have cauterised the longstanding efforts to use the spurious nuclear weapons issue to push the US towards confrontation and war with Iran:
KEY JEWISH DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SAY THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST IRAN DEAL
Or when Israel’s primary agents of political influence in the US went “all out” to try to get the US to attack Syria and hand yet another country to (even more) jihadist-ridden chaos:
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
But hey, I suppose for you those are just more examples of “unhingedness” and “bigotedness”.
It must be strange living in the world you inhabit, so far removed from basic reality by a desperate need to avoid being seen as any kind of badwhite.
https://www.adl.org/search?keys=unz
No! He wasn’t. The context made that quite clear. Ledeen is just another Zionist chicken hawk.
“… I lack a conscience.”
Noble admission, Sam The Sham!
Those who lack conscience and wield power are most to be feared and exposed.
Selah.
We must not passover Shama’s foolish description of Mr. Giraldi’s daring words as “shrillness.”
In addition, Sam The Sham must have missed Mr. Giraldi’s comment # 37 where one can learn he’s already “graphed” by CIA and FBI ! As a shrill Jew, Shammy should run to the authorities and report that P.G. knows he’s being “tailed.”
Selah.
One point where Shama is correct (by accident) is his words, “we are witnessing a peak.”
Donald Trump is the latest in a dynastic line of ZUSA emperors. His key job assignment is to eliminate the threat of the Islamic Republic of Iran and facilitate plans for M.E. map redrawing to include Greater Israel.
Selah.
Before 9/11, please note how ZUSA co-emperor W. Bush Cheney reigned? How convenient for Ariel Sharon to be leading the “only democracy in the Middle East!” And we goyim must wonder (in awe) as to why the hell 9/11 never underwent serious crime investigation?
Selah.
I conclude now with the theater presentation observable during the reign of ZUSA Emperor Obama. As a smooth but deceptive Nobel Peace prize winner, Obama knew that the nuclear weapons deal with Iran was born to fail. Evidence of his duo- royal loyalty was the gift of $3.9 billion and its extension for ten (10) years to Netanyahu’s Iran-hating & scandal plagued government.
Selah.
It’s soon likely that Corporate Media “Talking Heads” (especially Fox News) will be repeating the mantra of crooked / approved regime historians who will report, “Obama was Chamberlain and now the Homeland is lucky to have a Churchill in the tweets of President Donald J. Trump!”
Selah peak shrill Jew.
Civilta Cattolica, 1890.
Any nation that turns from the church will end up being ruled by the jew:
http://originsofman.angelfire.com/pdf/jqseg1.pdf
http://originsofman.angelfire.com/pdf/jqseg2.pdf
Maybe he is frustrated and for some inexplicable reason thinks that frequently throwing red meat to the foot soldiers can accomplish something.
It has to be the red meat ration, I agree. Happened to be speaking with a young cousin yesterday. He tells me that the mood on campus is perceptively changing. More and more students are joining the Trump side of things.
Are you in favor of the Iranians being exterminated? If yes, why?
Excellent article. In matters involving Israel, politically-active Jewish-Americans have a conflict of interest the size of Brooklyn. This conflict must be identified. And loudly.
Since every Jew is automatically eligible for Israeli citizenship, these Diaspora Zionists should be sidelined from playing a decisive role in formulating US policies in the Middle East. This exclusion represents nothing more than common sense.
Sadly, few writers, pundits or intellectuals dare to examine the poisonous consequences of this ongoing charade. Jewish privilege is has reached its zenith in American life. People are afraid.
Zionists have successfully orchestrated a series of criminal, preemptive wars and invasions based on deliberate falsehoods and manufactured disinformation. These ongoing Jewish machinations go back to WWI, and earlier.
Meanwhile, millions of lives have been destroyed. Trillions of dollars have been squandered. Today, Israel confiscates more and more territory, gets to keep its nuclear WMD, and quietly goes about expelling non-Jews from its ever-expanding territories. The Zionist state’s aggressive, race-based policies are totally at odds with everything America supposedly stands for. Yet they endure in plain view and with virtually no criticism. This is Jewish power.
To sustain these glaring double-standards, political and cultural life in the US has been completely warped. Israel’s unique and perilous status requires it. Even Free Speech is being criminalized. And it’s all in order to preserve the special status of Washington’s most sacred cow.
The time has come to unmask these mega-powerful crypto-Israelis and Zionist institutions for what they are: ruthless agents an unscrupulous global cabal.
if it weren't for the ease with which every single Gentile leader in the West today toadies to all things Jewi$h, then ((they'd)) get exactly nowhere.
I don't know which is worse, Jewish treachery or Gentile perfidy
on the scale of execrable scoundrels, certainly Dick Cheney and Tony Blair will go down as two of history's most loathsome villains imaginable. There doesn't even seem to be a precedent for this kind of historic betrayal of one's own people and nations- to the tender mercies of their most intractable enemy.
perhaps only the story of Judas compares
Only the Ashkenazis could be considered Caucasian. But that is ending because they have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians.
They can certainly try, and, I suppose you’d require the U.S. to stay her hand as a matter of fair principle while watching said bases destroyed. Nice idea, but I’d stick to reality. U.S. has vast interests, including economic ones; those which benefit every U.S. citizen, and, to be practical, all her allies.
Watch out for the evil Zioevangizer Mike Pence. He’s itching for wars for Israel.
When examined objectively the power that one very small ethnic group wields in this country is frightening and a direct threat to constitutional democracy. Jews are a little over one percent of the population, yet individual Jews, almost all Zionist and anti-Christian, exercise overwhelming control of the entertainment and news industries. Similar individual Jews have a nearly overwhelming presence in higher education, the legal system, the financial sector. Until recently such Jews formed a majority of the Supreme Court. Jews like Adelson, Saban and many others wield overwhelming financial control of the political system in this country. Others have formed innumerable open and covert organizations to promote Jewish interests, e.g., Soros, Dees, et al. There is no Elders of Zion but that this country is now essentially run by people, all drawn from this minority of Zionist, anti-Christian Jews, drawn in turn from a very small Jewish minority should be of concern to any rational citizen, Jew or non-Jew.
Noble admission, Sam The Sham!
Those who lack conscience and wield power are most to be feared and exposed.
Selah.
We must not passover Shama's foolish description of Mr. Giraldi's daring words as "shrillness."
In addition, Sam The Sham must have missed Mr. Giraldi's comment # 37 where one can learn he's already "graphed" by CIA and FBI ! As a shrill Jew, Shammy should run to the authorities and report that P.G. knows he's being "tailed."
Selah.
One point where Shama is correct (by accident) is his words, "we are witnessing a peak."
Donald Trump is the latest in a dynastic line of ZUSA emperors. His key job assignment is to eliminate the threat of the Islamic Republic of Iran and facilitate plans for M.E. map redrawing to include Greater Israel.
Selah.
Before 9/11, please note how ZUSA co-emperor W. Bush Cheney reigned? How convenient for Ariel Sharon to be leading the "only democracy in the Middle East!" And we goyim must wonder (in awe) as to why the hell 9/11 never underwent serious crime investigation?
Selah.
I conclude now with the theater presentation observable during the reign of ZUSA Emperor Obama. As a smooth but deceptive Nobel Peace prize winner, Obama knew that the nuclear weapons deal with Iran was born to fail. Evidence of his duo- royal loyalty was the gift of $3.9 billion and its extension for ten (10) years to Netanyahu's Iran-hating & scandal plagued government.
Selah.
It's soon likely that Corporate Media "Talking Heads" (especially Fox News) will be repeating the mantra of crooked / approved regime historians who will report, "Obama was Chamberlain and now the Homeland is lucky to have a Churchill in the tweets of President Donald J. Trump!"
Selah peak shrill Jew.
What the heck does “Selah” mean?
So in memory of H.S.T., I also deploy "selah" to end my comments at the U.R.
That okay with you? (Sigh)
The larger issue for me is WHO the hell are you, AnonymouZ.
Selah.
Interestingly it is used virtually exclusively in Western (the 12 "lost tribes") music. But the word itself is most common in the Book of Psalms.
Jewish power and paranoia: disastrous wars on behalf of Israel and the transformation of the United States into a nonwhite-majority nation to preclude the rise of a Nazi-like regime.
"to preclude the rise of a Nazi like régime" is in line with John Derbyshire's observation a few months ago that there is still a small fraction of America's Jewish community which hears the horses of the Cossack horses riding to the latest pogrom. It is a rational updating. It supports a "better to be safe than sorry" attitude for Jews conscious of how well assimilated German Jews were. Sadly, their even more assimilated American grandchildren are likely to regret it.
FreeRepublic became a joke almost a decade ago. That’s about when I stopped playing in that sandbox.
Hasbara. And void of content to boot. Are they paying you full rate for this?
Dual loyalty is an avoided and career-ending subject for a couple reasons. One must never, ever, criticize Jews (a third rail at complete odds with) and one may not criticize immigrants’ behavior. The obvious problem is Treason. Just how much Treason is the result of so-called “dual loyalty”?
And isn’t Treason subject to some rather serious legal sanctions? Why aren’t we hanging Traitors instead of quietly flying them back to Israel or wherever?
Ultimately the reason is that Jews are Holy objects to Christians. Christians worship Yeshua (a Jew) and his putative father-god YHWH. It really is that simple. America has enough Evangelicals alone to ensure the course never deviates and will fulfill their sacred prophesies. Jews run media? So what? Jews run RELIGION in America – both the communist bureaucratic State diversity cult as well as Christianity (Yeshuanity). It’s awfully hard to condemn Jews when one worships them.
Having trouble getting off the ground with this? Think of Grandma who brought up young Jack to be a law abiding good citizen and is completely sure that his shooting of one dead individual was not murder, but she has a lifelong loyalty to good citizenship supporting the police and law and order...
Ashkenazi Jews, and those are the ones we are mainly dealing with, are an endogamous caste of bankers, progressive journalists, lawyers, and social scientists (including, now, education), that have migrated all over Europe, but never identifying as European, with exceptions that prove the rule.
As a tribe, once can read Kevin MacDonald’s work to see how they work in remarkable ethnic cohesion–not necessarily as an “organized conspiracy” (though that certainly happens), but as an ethnic drive.
Being neither European as such, nor Christian, and although their skin is white, they are not White.
Why whenever I see that picture of William Kristol does it look like he has a gun pointed to his head?
Well with that smirk he does have a gun pointed at all of our heads, inciter of global mass murder that he is….
If he were to ever realize this, as Christians and others do believe that even such sociopaths have a conscience, then maybe the smirk will turn to a shame…A shame that his conniving side might realize that the only way out is to do what he has done to the world.
Of course the news of Kristol having committed suicide by a self inflicted shot to his own temples would be scrubbed…including his bloody temple.
That said Kristol is truly one of the most pathetic creatures there is, sub species Smarmicus Homicidicus
Philip Giraldi:
Ho hum! I’ll Try Again!
I am not an anti-Semite. I like Arabs.
Arabs, including Palestinians, are 99% Semitic peoples (peoples from the Middle East). The overwhelming majority of Jews are not Semites (from the Middle East). Jews are relatively recent converts, hailing from Europe, mostly Poland, Germany, and Russia.
Koestler‘s book “The Thirteenth Tribe,” is just one of a hundred places to peruse this line of research.
Zionist Jews are the worst Racist anti-Semites on the planet, as they hate Arabs (Semites), murder them by the millions, steal their land, and slander them (Semites).
Participants on this forum – kindly clean up your terminology. Recall that Orwell‘s major complaint in his famous 1984, was that the oppressing Oligarchs were cynically destroying our ability to reason, through the destruction of our use of Linguistic Communication. Call it the Mainstream Hollywood Syndrome.
It is doubly difficult to resist oppression if we are not able to conceptualize our imprisonment.
Restore the Republic!
Durruti
recuse is too mild. their hands, tongues, ears should be removed and they should never be allowed to deal with anything beyond their own toilet requirements.
only right.
if one builds and fuels a car and maps the direction and destination and the ending, one will also drive it or force it to be driven.
“Conspiracy Theory” smear. We are on to you.
Of course they are! They look a little weirder too. (oops, did I say that loud)
Anyway, how else to explain their unlimited Evil (seriously, they actively connive to prolong the suffering of innocents, such as in Syria, so that they can prosper!!), Greed, Psychopathy and Supremacist ideology?
I remember the debate between Pence and the hideous Tim Kaine where the Democrat vowed that there would be No Fly Zone over Syria which would certainly have allowed the head chopping rebels to gain a stronger foothold.
In addition to all that, Trump has also cut off aid to the Syrian rebels. His Afghanistan policy /escalation is also symbolic. US troops won't be in direct combat and there will only be 15000 there anyway.
You haven’t been paying attention. Since the initial strike in April, the Trump administration has deliberately attacked regime or allied forces an additional five times. (one, two, three, four, five).
Including the Tomahawks in April, that’s a total of 6 deliberate attacks on the Syrian Arab Republic or its allies (so far), which is already 6 more than Obama carried out during his entire presidency. And it’s not like this is the end of Trump’s tenure, either; it’s the 9th goddamn month since he’s been in office. I’m sure the war hawks in Wahington are quite pleased with his progress, as they should be.
Anyone could tell by that point that Assad isn’t going to be overthrown. The aim now is to limit the Assad regime’s territorial gains as much as possible, and the “rebels” proved they were useless at doing that when Shia militia reached the Iraqi border at al-Tanf, and cut them off from reaching Deir ez-Zor back in May (which was what one of the attacks mentioned above was about).
After that, the Trump administration put all its eggs in the “Syrian Democratic Forces/People’s Protection Units (SDF/YPG) basket, the mainly Kurdish (with some Arab fighters) militia that the US has been using to fight ISIS since 2015 (it’s also, ironically, a hard left socialist organization. Think Kurdish Antifa. Though I doubt Trump knows or cares or could do anything about it even if he did). Trump has given the SDF <a title=”"https://sputniknews.com/amp/middleeast/201709141057402885-america-weaponry-deir-ez-zor/"https://sputniknews.com/amp/middleeast/201709141057402885-america-weaponry-deir-ez-zor/"heavy weaponry with the aim of confronting Assad and limiting his territorial gains. They’ve also been pressuring the rebel groups they formerly supported to join the SDF.
I have sympathy for the SDF/YPG and the Syrian Kurds, and it made sense to support them when they were under direct assault from ISIS (though US motives were hardly altruistic even then). But ISIS is all but beaten now, and this is a dangerous game the US is playing, which could readily lead to a military confrontation betweeen the US and Russia and/or Iran. In fact, just a few days ago, the SDF seized part of Deir ez-Zor after SAA forces reached the city, and the Pentagon is now accusing Russia (which has in the past at least had good relations with the SDF/YPG), of deliberately bombing SDF fighters, in close proximity to American special forces.
Only 15,000! I guess you wouldn’t mind, then, if they Taliban, or the Afghan Army for that matter, or any other country, put 15,000 troops on American soil, as a “symbolic” gesture.
Trump has also accelerated US collaboration in the sadistic torture of Yemen by the Saudis, past the levels under even Obama, which was already shameful.
And again, we should also keep in mind that it’s only been 9 months. For his next act, Trump might be thinking about ending the Iran deal in October.
Anti Zionist Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
Http://www.truetorahjews.org
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro explains the reasons why Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Israeli army
http://www.truetorahjews.org/images/rabbishapirovideo.mp4
Maybe Mr Unz could include some 'true' Jews amoung his commentators.
There are also secular Jewish anti Zionists.
Also, not all Muslims are terrorists!
Iran isn’t stupid or suicidal. Its anti-ship missiles are for deterrence, which Iran has plenty of need for, as sociopaths like you populate the American, Israeli, and Saudi governments and are itching to attack.
Before you decide to label as sociopath, anyone who proposes a worldview grounded in reality, you might think long and hard about the multitude of paths this world can take under the scenario of a wholesale withdrawal of U.S. presence in the Gulf. Most one hears on this forum, including your own, reduce to precious nothing over virtue signalling.
Like it or not the world is never going to assume the shape of a collection of nations equal in power, interests and endowments. Hoping for that is to live in a state of delusion.
U.S. does not wish to go on an offensive mission against Iran. Far from it; yet facilitating her allies' aspirations to join the American vision isn't one we are about to walk away from. That is not chest beating. It is eminently in evidence from the number of nations wishing to join the Western economic and cultural model. I am keenly aware of the lunatics on this forum who believe they'd be perfectly happy to embrace other cultures, I can only invite them to make haste.
Spare me the rest of your sanctimony.
Speaking of unhinged
Good post, but for the sake of accuracy, Morris Dees is not Jewish (easy to make the mistake, though). He was named after his father, a demented Christian Zionist who was given the name of a Jewish friend of the grandfather.
The irony here is perhaps the greatest. The Jew blaming is almost Stormfront level while the commenters pound their translated Hebrew books and whinge that the Jews are conspiring against them. They are far more brainwashed than any communist AntiFa type. "None are so blind as those who refuse to see" and all that. Worshipping some random Jewish bastard who became a handyman or some random desert cave dwelling Jew with vivid hallucinations is exactly the same as the Jews' worship of a lunatic who talks to god from a mountaintop (or his LDS successor).
IF there's a Jew conspiracy it's a couple thousand years old at this point and half the planet is part of it.
Regarding jew and war:
Bill kristol appearing on c-span to push, agitate for the 2nd Iraq war was asked by a caller if he had served in the (U.S.) military.
kristol said he had not served but had a friend(s) who had and that he served in other ways.
When a country drafts into the military, can one get out of service by saying, “My friend served”?
reckon his serving in other ways was/is lying and pushing for wars for his real country israel.
Of the 58,220 Americans who were sacrificed during the Vietnam War, 270 were Jewish. That's approximately 0.46 percent or less than a half of one-percent.
Guess they were too busy partying in college, while pursuing their law degrees.
During the Vietnam war the U.S. selective service system gave deferments to those attending college, which delayed their eligibility for conscription.
"Among partners of the top law firms in New York, I estimate that at least 25% are Jews."
source: https://www.archives.gov/research/military/vietnam-war/casualty-statistics.html
source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4726694_Going_to_College_to_Avoid_the_Draft_The_Unintended_Legacy_of_the_Vietnam_War [accessed Sep 19, 2017].
source: http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2014/6/5/is-lack-of-diversity-at-big-law-firms-a-crisis
https://eltemplodelaluzinterior.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/fiestaibiza1.jpg
On another note, these folks have such a hate-on for Iran, they are willing to be in bed with Wahabbi KSA. Go figure.
It is called divide and conquer.
First Iran, then onto to other Arab idiots who can’t see who the real enemies are.
Or is it not the statement of the facts that you are outraged by, but merely the proposed solutions? If so, then what solutions to the problem identified by Giraldi and by Haaretz would you propose?Good examples might be the desperate attempts to prevent the deal with Iran that hopefully will prove to have cauterised the longstanding efforts to use the spurious nuclear weapons issue to push the US towards confrontation and war with Iran:
KEY JEWISH DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SAY THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST IRAN DEAL
Or when Israel's primary agents of political influence in the US went "all out" to try to get the US to attack Syria and hand yet another country to (even more) jihadist-ridden chaos:
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
But hey, I suppose for you those are just more examples of "unhingedness" and "bigotedness".
It must be strange living in the world you inhabit, so far removed from basic reality by a desperate need to avoid being seen as any kind of badwhite.
I didn’t say there weren’t any Jews pushing for a war with Iran, I said there are plenty of non-Jews pushing for one too, including Trump himself. Hostility toward Iran (and imperialism generally) is deeply rooted in the American foreign policy establishment (which isn’t close to being all or mostly Jewish), and can’t be explained by naive WASPs being manipulated by clever Jews. It’s not just bigoted, it’s a cartoonishly stupid “explanation”.
In fact, the reality is that Giraldi might be guilty of, at most, overstatement, but since a large part of the problem is precisely that any reference at all to the problem is suppressed, one might expect an honest opponent of the US's military interventionism to temper his criticism of Giraldi's piece appropriately. For whatever reason, instead, you seem to feel the need to hysterically accuse it as though it contains no truth whatsoever.
What gives?Of course, the Israel Lobby is much bigger than just jews, and stupid American Christians manipulated by their church leaders into believing fatuous ideas about Israel based upon dubiously interpreted biblical nonsense has historically provided a lot of its political clout.
That's another problem, but it doesn't make the problem highlighted by Giraldi not a problem. The jewish individuals named by Giraldi still massively disproportionately dominate the foreign policy media and political debate on ME wars, and the wealthy jewish Israel supporters mentioned by him still massively disproportionately influence who gets heard and which opinions are suppressed and which promoted.
one of the lower level cubicle jew.
does SS share same cubicle.
The late-Hunter S. Thompson used “selah” in many terrific letters and I like the way he thought.
So in memory of H.S.T., I also deploy “selah” to end my comments at the U.R.
That okay with you? (Sigh)
The larger issue for me is WHO the hell are you, AnonymouZ.
Selah.
Maybe he is frustrated and for some inexplicable reason thinks that frequently throwing red meat to the foot soldiers can accomplish something.
oh stop beating around the bush
it’s *obviously* anti-Semitism!
anyone who points out Jewish treachery and relentless war mongering on behalf of Israel is obviously an anti-Semite (who hates all Jews for no other reason than envy for their choseness)
anyone who believes the war on Iraq was due to the black-hearted treachery of Jewish neocons in the Bush administration are clearly anti-Semites. Just as anyone who believes the msm is owned and controlled by zio-Jews = are anti=Semites.
just as anyone who doubts Israel’s ownership of all of the lands of Palestine (and the Golan Heights!) are obviously raging racists are anti-Semites!
it’s really quite simple..
if you point out their Jewish supremacist intrigues for war or relentless Marxism or say anything less than gushing about Jews = you are a hateful bigot and racist, Nazi terrorist and anti-Semite who wants to push Ann Frank into an oven
so now I hope I’ve saved you and Sam and Sherman and all the others the trouble.
if you point out Jewish treachery for wars = you’re an anti-Semite and you hate all Jews because you are a Nazi or Palestinian terrorist
now you guys can take a break. I covered it for you
No you did not!
Did you see my comment - # 109?
In Friendship.
Durruti
It’s all enabled by The Big Lie.
The only reason the average American is silenced about parasitical Zionists and Israel is because they’ve had their head filled with various absurd fictions such as Holocaust propaganda, “Judeo-Christian values”, and Jews being a uniquely righteous, exceptional, and persecuted people.
The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are scientifically impossible frauds.
see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:
http://codoh.com
No name calling, level playing field debate here:
http://forum.codoh.com
We’re talking about an alleged ’6M Jews & 5M others’ … 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.
Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.
He says that they are driving, not that every passenger in the bus is a Jew. Maybe he meant some American Jews. Aren't some American Jews well known peaceniks?
Yes, there are those who are ‘shills’, bought & sold.
‘Peaceniks’ only in matters that aren’t “good for Jews”.
more:
The True Cost of Parasite Israel
Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/
[In comments, allcaps is shouting. Stop shouting or your comments will be trashed.]
RE:
BUSH-CHENEY-CLINTON-TRUMP–MCMASTER–KELLY—AND THE LOT OF THEM ALL AIN’T JEWS:
WELL PUT. GIRALDI IS A MIXED BAG, WRITES SOME GOOD STUFF, BUT IT MISIDENTIFIES THE PROBLEM–THE ENEMY– BY LABELING IT AS “THE JEWS”. THE NEO-CONS–AND NEO-LIBERALS–WHO DRIVE U.S. FOREIGN POLICY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD COME IN MANY FLAVORS.
I’M AN ANTI-ZIONIST, AND IT’S CRUCIAL TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND I DON’T QUITE GET WHY GIRALDI DOESN’T USE THE TERM ZIONIST.
Giraldi is discussing the latter and not the former, and doing a service to the American nation by his taboo-busting.
Any relation to Dean Wurmser (sic) of Faber College?
Bernie Sanders (a scary Jew!) wasn’t nearly as anti-imperialist as I would have liked him to be, but I doubt he would have attacked Assad regime forces 6 times like Trump has by this point, and certainly not without Congressional approval (which he probably wouldn’t have gotten, even if he had wanted it).
Even under Hillary, the Iran deal would have stood a better chance, since she was at least verbally committed to it (unlike even Rand Paul), and there would have been Obama loyalists within the Clinton administration who would have been desperate to preserve Obama’s signature foreign policy achievement (and one of the only worthwhile ones, in my opinion, along with restoration of diplomatic ties with Cuba).
For extensive rants about slippery shill Sanders, see videos of Sane Progressive (if you can stand it).
Meanwhile, millions of lives have been destroyed. Trillions of dollars have been squandered. Today, Israel confiscates more and more territory, gets to keep its nuclear WMD, and quietly goes about expelling non-Jews from its ever-expanding territories. The Zionist state's aggressive, race-based policies are totally at odds with everything America supposedly stands for. Yet they endure in plain view and with virtually no criticism. This is Jewish power. To sustain these glaring double-standards, political and cultural life in the US has been completely warped. Israel's unique and perilous status requires it. Even Free Speech is being criminalized. And it's all in order to preserve the special status of Washington's most sacred cow.The time has come to unmask these mega-powerful crypto-Israelis and Zionist institutions for what they are: ruthless agents an unscrupulous global cabal.
and raging Gentile venality and cowardice
if it weren’t for the ease with which every single Gentile leader in the West today toadies to all things Jewi$h, then ((they’d)) get exactly nowhere.
I don’t know which is worse, Jewish treachery or Gentile perfidy
on the scale of execrable scoundrels, certainly Dick Cheney and Tony Blair will go down as two of history’s most loathsome villains imaginable. There doesn’t even seem to be a precedent for this kind of historic betrayal of one’s own people and nations- to the tender mercies of their most intractable enemy.
perhaps only the story of Judas compares
WASP culture was born from the Reformation.Specifically, it was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces culture that is pro-Semitic. That is true of even the earliest WASPs. Thomas Cromwell allied with Jews, inviting them back into England, because that made sense according to the theology that drove him and the entire Puritan Revolution.
By the beginning of the Victorian era, virtually 100% of the British Empire's WASP Elites were rathr hardcore pro-Semitic. A majority of them were pro-Jewish, in a secular way that would have seemed wrong to 'orthodox' Puritans but actually was the inevitable child of that movement and its driving doctrines and passions. The rest of the pro-Semitic WASP Elites of the Victorian era were pro-Arabic and pro-Islamic (a few of those pro-Moslems were either pro-Iranian or pro-Turkish, but most were pro-Arabic).
Out of that divide would come two things: the Balfour Declaration, and thus the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, and the Brits backing the House of Saud and thus necessarily Wahhabi Islam.
The pro-Semitic nature of WASP (Elite) culture guaranteed - because nobody was powerful enough to stop WASP culture from creating them - both Israel and Saudi Arabia.
And look what we have today: the successor to the British Empire, the USA, backing both Israel and Saudi Arabia as they do endless mischief, more than a bit of it evil.
WASP culture created both Israel and the power of the Saudis. WASP cultural Elites are anything but innocent victims of Jewish and Saudi manipulations.
Laughable.
Typical Jew ‘we didn’t do nuthin’, blame their own actions on WASPs.
Still obsessing about country clubs we see. LOL.
“now you guys can take a break. I covered it for you ;)”
No you did not!
Did you see my comment – # 109?
In Friendship.
Durruti
Not if you ask Jews.
The fact that there are so many who profess to the Christian faith, who are as evil as those Joo neocons, such as those you mentioned, simply cannot be denied. Even if hypothetically speaking the Joos were to vanish overnight, the wars of aggression by the Evil Empire will continue unabated.
The Evil Empire and its Evil b!tch both share the same satanic vision of world domination. Two evil nations, made for each other, in a match made in Hell.
Btw, the orange scumbag was hilariously evil at the UN.
Both N.Korea and Iran should simply call this bastard’s bluff, by literally giving him the finger. I say, let the chips fall where they may. Let’s see how the American, Japanese, S.Korean, Israeli & “Royal” pussies like the consequences.
To you N.Koreans, its been written that you will target the thousands of American Terrorists stationed in the south. I am counting on that, so don’t you miss chaps.
I am glad you think Iran isn’t stupid or suicidal. Yet it doesn’t square with your earlier statement which reads “I’m glad they have the capability, if need be, to destroy the hostile military bases that encircle them“. There are no scenarios in which Iran could destroy US bases without changing the meaning of the word “suicidal”, is there?
Before you decide to label as sociopath, anyone who proposes a worldview grounded in reality, you might think long and hard about the multitude of paths this world can take under the scenario of a wholesale withdrawal of U.S. presence in the Gulf. Most one hears on this forum, including your own, reduce to precious nothing over virtue signalling.
Like it or not the world is never going to assume the shape of a collection of nations equal in power, interests and endowments. Hoping for that is to live in a state of delusion.
U.S. does not wish to go on an offensive mission against Iran. Far from it; yet facilitating her allies’ aspirations to join the American vision isn’t one we are about to walk away from. That is not chest beating. It is eminently in evidence from the number of nations wishing to join the Western economic and cultural model. I am keenly aware of the lunatics on this forum who believe they’d be perfectly happy to embrace other cultures, I can only invite them to make haste.
Spare me the rest of your sanctimony.
Which certainly doesn’t mean there isn’t a particular problem, exactly as Giraldi describes it with plenty of sound supporting examples, of dual loyalty jews pushing wars that favour Israel.
In fact, the reality is that Giraldi might be guilty of, at most, overstatement, but since a large part of the problem is precisely that any reference at all to the problem is suppressed, one might expect an honest opponent of the US’s military interventionism to temper his criticism of Giraldi’s piece appropriately. For whatever reason, instead, you seem to feel the need to hysterically accuse it as though it contains no truth whatsoever.
What gives?
Of course, the Israel Lobby is much bigger than just jews, and stupid American Christians manipulated by their church leaders into believing fatuous ideas about Israel based upon dubiously interpreted biblical nonsense has historically provided a lot of its political clout.
That’s another problem, but it doesn’t make the problem highlighted by Giraldi not a problem. The jewish individuals named by Giraldi still massively disproportionately dominate the foreign policy media and political debate on ME wars, and the wealthy jewish Israel supporters mentioned by him still massively disproportionately influence who gets heard and which opinions are suppressed and which promoted.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must've seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
Truth hurts, America.
Of the 58,220 Americans who were sacrificed during the Vietnam War, 270 were Jewish. That’s approximately 0.46 percent or less than a half of one-percent.
Guess they were too busy partying in college, while pursuing their law degrees.
During the Vietnam war the U.S. selective service system gave deferments to those attending college, which delayed their eligibility for conscription.
“Among partners of the top law firms in New York, I estimate that at least 25% are Jews.”
source: https://www.archives.gov/research/military/vietnam-war/casualty-statistics.html
source: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/4726694_Going_to_College_to_Avoid_the_Draft_The_Unintended_Legacy_of_the_Vietnam_War [accessed Sep 19, 2017].
source: http://manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2014/6/5/is-lack-of-diversity-at-big-law-firms-a-crisis
I wonder where Mr. Giraldi would put David Horowitz on the list? Although Horowitz is not a public policy maker, but rather an author and blogger, but definitely is a known Jewish voice. I respect Horowitz tremendously because of his background as an ex-Communist and his dead-on criticism of the American Left, both historically and currently. Although rather knee-jerk in his defense of Israel, I would not doubt his loyalty to this country one iota. I do not know if David Horowitz is a dual Israeli-American citizen, but he is not a legislator nor a government policy maker, so as far as I am concerned, the issue is moot. If one questions the loyalty to America, of Jews or any other group for that matter, the issue of holding dual citizenship while holding certain government offices should be something of concern. Once out of public office or service, then they can resume their dual citizenship. It makes the issue of loyalty less questionable.
as sociopaths like you
Speaking of unhinged
RE:
BUSH-CHENEY-CLINTON-TRUMP--MCMASTER--KELLY---AND THE LOT OF THEM ALL AIN'T JEWS:
WELL PUT. GIRALDI IS A MIXED BAG, WRITES SOME GOOD STUFF, BUT IT MISIDENTIFIES THE PROBLEM--THE ENEMY-- BY LABELING IT AS "THE JEWS". THE NEO-CONS--AND NEO-LIBERALS--WHO DRIVE U.S. FOREIGN POLICY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD COME IN MANY FLAVORS.
I'M AN ANTI-ZIONIST, AND IT'S CRUCIAL TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND I DON'T QUITE GET WHY GIRALDI DOESN'T USE THE TERM ZIONIST.
There’s a place for using the term “Zionist” and a place for using the term “jew” (the two are most certainly not interchangeable). The wider Zionist Israel Lobby in the US is certainly a big problem, but there is also the problem of jewish nationalists being disproportionately represented in the US foreign policy, media and political elites, while their likely nationalist ulterior motives are not mentioned and are largely unnoticed because of the prevailing taboo against mentioning it..
Giraldi is discussing the latter and not the former, and doing a service to the American nation by his taboo-busting.
Good for Giraldi!
Do you know if the ADL is aware of the existence of UR?
Speaking of unhinged
I’d say the sentiment that America has the right to threaten and/or attack other countries to maintain its “economic interests” is sociopathic. What would you call it? And I didn’t say that he personally was in charge of US/Israeli/Saudi policy towards Iran, if that’s what you thought I meant. That would be unhinged. I just said that sociopaths like him are.
As an actual American born US Citizen, it would be to the benefit of every American if we brought all our troops home and left the Middle East to what ever vulture wanted it. Other than the UK and Canada the US has no allies.
Or is it not the statement of the facts that you are outraged by, but merely the proposed solutions? If so, then what solutions to the problem identified by Giraldi and by Haaretz would you propose?Good examples might be the desperate attempts to prevent the deal with Iran that hopefully will prove to have cauterised the longstanding efforts to use the spurious nuclear weapons issue to push the US towards confrontation and war with Iran:
KEY JEWISH DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SAY THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST IRAN DEAL
Or when Israel's primary agents of political influence in the US went "all out" to try to get the US to attack Syria and hand yet another country to (even more) jihadist-ridden chaos:
AIPAC to go all-out on Syria
But hey, I suppose for you those are just more examples of "unhingedness" and "bigotedness".
It must be strange living in the world you inhabit, so far removed from basic reality by a desperate need to avoid being seen as any kind of badwhite.
Never mind.
https://www.adl.org/search?keys=unz
The Jews must be exterminated.
A courageous article and spot on. Once again I’m thankful for Ron Unz and the Unz Review. You would never read such an article in the MSM.
The late Samuel Huntington said in his amazing book Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order that Saudi Arabia and Iran are fighting for supremacy in the Islamic world. Syria is a proxy war between the two countries. Now Israel has become BFF with Saudi Arabia because they too want a piece of Syria, for the oil reserve in the Golan Heights. So now US troops are suddenly bombing “ISIS” in Syria while supplying “rebels” with arms, even though by the CIA’s own admission most of the arms supplied have fallen into the hands of ISIS since the rebels joined forces with them.
Make no mistake Jews and Arabs run this country. That is why Trump went to Israel and SA for his first foreign trip, he knows who America’s daddy is, even if most Americans are still in the dark. His entire administration is crawling with Israel loving Jews, starting with his son-in-law the most loyal son of Israel. Even Steve Bannon and Breitbart are crazy gung ho pro-Israel. Nikki Haley might as well be renamed Israel’s ambassador to the UN. Every time that daft woman opens her mouth the US is in danger of going to war with somebody, usually on behalf of Israel.
When was the last time Iran conducted a jihad against the west? All the Muslim terrorists now attacking the west are Sunnis, funded by Saudi Arabia. The only time Iran had direct armed conflict with the US was when they kicked us out of Tehran, for trying to steal their oil. All their beef is with Israel, not with the US. Why are we taking up Israel’s cause? Trump is a moron of the first order and has no understanding of what really goes on in the mideast. He surrounds himself with pro-Israel neocons and Jews and is easily manipulated. He’s stupid and dangerous. I voted for him because he presented himself as someone completely different, someone anti-war and anti-immigration, now he’s a neocon globalist libtard, the worst of all worlds. Someone needs to primary him out in 2020.
True words sir!
The evil empire sustains itself primarily through this attitude of its people. It does not matter how the Jews connive to shape it. Only thing that matters is that they buy into it without exercising their conscience.
Americans, remember, such glory has a cost. You will find soon enough that a cancerous soul is too high a price to be “Top Nation,” for essentially a blink in cosmic time.
Before you decide to label as sociopath, anyone who proposes a worldview grounded in reality, you might think long and hard about the multitude of paths this world can take under the scenario of a wholesale withdrawal of U.S. presence in the Gulf. Most one hears on this forum, including your own, reduce to precious nothing over virtue signalling.
Like it or not the world is never going to assume the shape of a collection of nations equal in power, interests and endowments. Hoping for that is to live in a state of delusion.
U.S. does not wish to go on an offensive mission against Iran. Far from it; yet facilitating her allies' aspirations to join the American vision isn't one we are about to walk away from. That is not chest beating. It is eminently in evidence from the number of nations wishing to join the Western economic and cultural model. I am keenly aware of the lunatics on this forum who believe they'd be perfectly happy to embrace other cultures, I can only invite them to make haste.
Spare me the rest of your sanctimony.
In the case of a defensive war with United States, there sure would be. At that point Iran would not have much hope but to inflict as much damage as possible on the aggressor. Although Iran does not nearly have the ability to fully reciprocate the harm the US can inflict on it, it hopefully has the capability to inflict enough damage so that an offensive war against it would be intolerable to the US. That’s how deterrence works.
If that’s true, and I sincerely hope it is, it’s because Iran has sufficient deterrent capacity, which includes not only the anti-ship missiles in the Gulf, but also Hezbollah’s arsenal of ~130,000 short, medium and long-range rockets capable of reaching every square inch of Israeli territory.
Believe me, I’m a realist. You don’t have to lecture me on the reality of aggressive rogue nations.
So in memory of H.S.T., I also deploy "selah" to end my comments at the U.R.
That okay with you? (Sigh)
The larger issue for me is WHO the hell are you, AnonymouZ.
Selah.
Once writers could safely assume their readers’ familiarity with the Bible. Hunter Thompson used the word “Selah” humorously(?) to mark points to which he thought his readers should pay particular attention. Selah is the English transliteration of a word, appearing in many of the Psalms, which seems to be an indicator of some kind of liturgical/performance action. Based on context it seems to assign an especial importance to the preceding verse or verses.
In fact, the reality is that Giraldi might be guilty of, at most, overstatement, but since a large part of the problem is precisely that any reference at all to the problem is suppressed, one might expect an honest opponent of the US's military interventionism to temper his criticism of Giraldi's piece appropriately. For whatever reason, instead, you seem to feel the need to hysterically accuse it as though it contains no truth whatsoever.
What gives?Of course, the Israel Lobby is much bigger than just jews, and stupid American Christians manipulated by their church leaders into believing fatuous ideas about Israel based upon dubiously interpreted biblical nonsense has historically provided a lot of its political clout.
That's another problem, but it doesn't make the problem highlighted by Giraldi not a problem. The jewish individuals named by Giraldi still massively disproportionately dominate the foreign policy media and political debate on ME wars, and the wealthy jewish Israel supporters mentioned by him still massively disproportionately influence who gets heard and which opinions are suppressed and which promoted.
“What gives” is that I think lunatic screeds about “America’s Jews” (like Noam Chomsky?) manipulating foreign policy do damage to the anti-war cause. I think solidarity and internationalism are the best weapons against militarism and imperialism.
That’s slightly better than the 1-dimensional Joo-paranoia, but it doesn’t begin to describe the problem. You’d be on the right track if you started paying attention to the central American goal since 1945 of keeping Middle Eastern oil in the hands of obedient governments within the American orbit, so it can serve as a non-Russian/non-Soviet, American-controlled source of energy for American allies (and economic competitors) in Europe and Japan.
Fair enough I suppose, but I reserve the right to point out the self-fulfilling nature of your objections to discussing that particular aspect of reality. You kowtow to an elite-imposed taboo that protects what is, at the least, one of the strongest pro-war lobbies from criticism, and thereby reinforce that taboo.
Your choice, I suppose, but your hysterical accusations against Giraldi remain both hysterical and based in your ideological dogma rather than in reality.Ok. Personally, I'm not a hippy so I tend to regard such drippy idealism as naïve nonsense. Especially as "solidarity and internationalism", far from being weapons against militarism, have in fact been dogmas used precisely to drive ahead one of the major strands of military interventionism, namely "R2P" and all the rest of the "humanitarian" interventionist nonsense.
Dream on, though. At least you can feel good about your own virtuous opposition to badwhite thinking whilst you ineffectually flap against the next war.Again, you try to reinforce your own desperate attempt to avoid recognising a real problem that you find ideologically difficult to acknowledge by waving your hands about other aspects of the problem.
It takes real courage to defy The Lobby, but, unfortunately, few have it.
I checked but it doesn’t look like American Conservative or Antiwar.com is running this piece. It would be great to get it shared far and wide on social media though!
The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible.
This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
If we're not careful, these same treacherous back-stabbing thugs will get the USA involved in a hot war with Iran, while Israel sets on the sideline, laughing about how gullible and stupid those Americans are.
Hey Greg,
Excellent link. This is great – we have a source for the 25 names – all of whom seem to still be around and within that same location. Let’s get them and put them on that island!
Maybe some break away portion of Antarctica…
That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
I love this line! Perhaps we can drop them off complimentary bottles so they can have a toast to their new life!
Peace.
So, I see that Arts is letting you drive the 88 this afternoon.
I am not willing to say that he is anti-Semitic, although I lean in that direction, and certainly leaned that way in the past. I am trying to move away from labeling and trying to concentrate on the ideas and arguments. I was proposing an explanation as to why he would write in a manner that would arouse anti-Semitic passions from people such as yourself and your fellow travelers. Is anti-Semitism the only reason?
Do you believe that anti-Aryanism is de facto wrong?
If Judaism has political goals, which it does as its central reason for existence, then are you in essence saying that fighting back against those political goals is de facto wrong (antisemitic)?
of course it's only anti-Semitism!
why else would someone criticize serial wars for Israel, torture and genocide?!
I can't believe you would even suggest something so anti-Semitic as if anyone who criticizes some of the things some Jews do are motivated by anything other than an evil and irrational hatred of all Jews simply because they're Jews
we may have to send you back to the ADL re-education center for expressing such egregious sentiments
What a great article !!! To which is nothing to add, except, probably, the immortal Dante Alighieri’s:
“The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.”
You casually throw into this thread which is mostly about Jewish influence on ME policy a devastatingly perceptive rational explanation for Jewish attitudes to immigration policy and multiculturalusm.
“to preclude the rise of a Nazi like régime” is in line with John Derbyshire’s observation a few months ago that there is still a small fraction of America’s Jewish community which hears the horses of the Cossack horses riding to the latest pogrom. It is a rational updating. It supports a “better to be safe than sorry” attitude for Jews conscious of how well assimilated German Jews were. Sadly, their even more assimilated American grandchildren are likely to regret it.
America has the right to threaten and/or attack other countries to maintain its “economic interests”
What other interests are there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHH9EYZHoVU
Sometimes you gotta crack (Persian) heads to show everyone who's in charge and that you have to be part of the team.
Peace.
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business".
This even became known as "The Ledeen Doctrine"; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable "small crappy little country". If so, he is very badly mistaken.
Ledeen was involved with CIA & overthrow of Allende, I believe. I refer you to Louis Wolfe’s “Counterspy,” the magazine of the 1970′s.
In fact, the reality is that Giraldi might be guilty of, at most, overstatement, but since a large part of the problem is precisely that any reference at all to the problem is suppressed, one might expect an honest opponent of the US's military interventionism to temper his criticism of Giraldi's piece appropriately. For whatever reason, instead, you seem to feel the need to hysterically accuse it as though it contains no truth whatsoever.
What gives?Of course, the Israel Lobby is much bigger than just jews, and stupid American Christians manipulated by their church leaders into believing fatuous ideas about Israel based upon dubiously interpreted biblical nonsense has historically provided a lot of its political clout.
That's another problem, but it doesn't make the problem highlighted by Giraldi not a problem. The jewish individuals named by Giraldi still massively disproportionately dominate the foreign policy media and political debate on ME wars, and the wealthy jewish Israel supporters mentioned by him still massively disproportionately influence who gets heard and which opinions are suppressed and which promoted.
“overstatement” the word, if applied, would be an understatement. As I wrote in #59, PG has been at it since at least 2005. The refrain has only increased in targeting Jews, to the point where today it is almost the solitary factor. Jews are prominently represented in all areas which require cognitive leadership, but I won’t call it a preponderance. Calling it so would be inaccurate, if not wilfully mendacious.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must’ve seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
One side: Jews are only to blame (Anglos are just naive and deceived.......). That "naive and deceived" is just hilarious.
Other side: Anglos are the only to blame. Well, looking for ethnic makeup of Neocon group, not quite true.
Maybe there IS something in that "Jews are prominently represented in all areas which require cognitive leadership".
Haaretz wrote in that year:
"In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history."
That paragraph is not incorrect, even if it is not the full story.Can you not conceive that the undoubted "prominent representation" (at least) in the area of foreign policy, and the evident tilt of that foreign policy towards wars that appear to be in the interests of Israel (or at any rate the interests of Israel as they are seen by those prominent representatives), could create a justified concern in a reasonable opponent of US military interventionism that US policy in that area is being pushed in the wrong direction by a powerful group whose loyalties are at least conflicted?
Can you not accept that dual loyalty could ever be a legitimate concern for those who don't like the way US policy is pushed by the "prominent representation" you are prepared to admit to?
Can you not accept that "dual loyalty" is a perfectly legitimate suspicion to raise against anyone with clear nationalist or religious ties to a foreign country?Indeed, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the case Giraldi makes here, except to the extent that you speculate that it is motivation for presenting it.
In that sense, it is mere ad hominem.An assertion that has nothing to do with Giraldi's argument here.
I don't understand the Trump opposition to the Iran deal. Do you?
Wars tend to advance military careers so it is a bit worrying that Trump seems to love generals in such an unbalanced way.
PG may ne a bit overboard in his suggestion (if I rightly infer it) that the neocons who seized the opportunity after 9/11 to grab the agenda for their own uniquely thought out agenda did so for Israel rather than America but is it possible to ignore the less highminded control of US politicians by AIPAC and similar lobby groups supported ny the money of people like Sheldon Adeldon? (A politician whose domestic policy positions have been bought by four or five domestic lobby groups is surely not going to leave his ME policy unsold).
Oh well, was Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin "thinking with his (cognitive) dick" when he had ZUSA military jet fly him & bride Louise Linton around Europe for their honeymoon?
Selah let 'dem eat cake.
And Australia though, as an Australian, I have been increasingly worried about US reliability for 20 years or so. Australia has been allied to the US in more wars than any other country. The only upgrade is that Australians are no longer likely to be called “our Bulgarians” as they allegedly were by a US general in Vietnam.
Curse the Romans for taking the Jews out of Israel and dispersing them all over Europe. The diaspora has been nothing but trouble for every country they’ve lived in for the past two thousand years. Even today many of these people simply cannot be loyal to whichever country they live in. Their loyalty is and always will be with their tribe. I said many because there are certainly exceptions. Not all Jews support Israel and many are as anti-war as they come.
As millions of gentile youth went to Europe to fight Hitler and save their arses from the Nazis, the Jews overwhelming enrolled in colleges to avoid the draft. Once the war is over they’ve become the most well educated and were in perfect position to take over the media, academia, Wall Street, Hollywood, Capitol Hill, the judiciary, and now the latest conquest, Silicon Valley.
Instead of some much needed introspection on why Hitler came to power, Jews hide behind the convenient label of “anti-semitism” and did everything they could to wrest power from the WASPs and actively bring the entire west to ruins through mass immigration, endless foreign wars and financial manipulation. But they’re getting a little ahead of themselves with this open borders madness. As Europe and America become more Muslim, it’ll also become more anti-semitic. In the end they might just be signing their own death warrant with what they promote.
Agree.
Ultimately, none! But there’s no such thing as “American” economic interests. The American (and international) ruling class certainly has economic interests, but “America” doesn’t have anything of the sort.
I don't know with great certainty whether American values, including her economic model, will persist for as long as Rome did - which was for 1400 years - mired in more wars per annum than the U.S ever has, but I am willing to wager that some version of the American construct will persist for a long time. I don't see a superior alternative.
So you prefer to ignore the problem Giraldi highlights for ideological reasons?
Fair enough I suppose, but I reserve the right to point out the self-fulfilling nature of your objections to discussing that particular aspect of reality. You kowtow to an elite-imposed taboo that protects what is, at the least, one of the strongest pro-war lobbies from criticism, and thereby reinforce that taboo.
Your choice, I suppose, but your hysterical accusations against Giraldi remain both hysterical and based in your ideological dogma rather than in reality.
Ok. Personally, I’m not a hippy so I tend to regard such drippy idealism as naïve nonsense. Especially as “solidarity and internationalism”, far from being weapons against militarism, have in fact been dogmas used precisely to drive ahead one of the major strands of military interventionism, namely “R2P” and all the rest of the “humanitarian” interventionist nonsense.
Dream on, though. At least you can feel good about your own virtuous opposition to badwhite thinking whilst you ineffectually flap against the next war.
Again, you try to reinforce your own desperate attempt to avoid recognising a real problem that you find ideologically difficult to acknowledge by waving your hands about other aspects of the problem.
Still, it would be good to know where Trump's anti-Iran views come from.
WASP culture was born from the Reformation.Specifically, it was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces culture that is pro-Semitic. That is true of even the earliest WASPs. Thomas Cromwell allied with Jews, inviting them back into England, because that made sense according to the theology that drove him and the entire Puritan Revolution.
By the beginning of the Victorian era, virtually 100% of the British Empire's WASP Elites were rathr hardcore pro-Semitic. A majority of them were pro-Jewish, in a secular way that would have seemed wrong to 'orthodox' Puritans but actually was the inevitable child of that movement and its driving doctrines and passions. The rest of the pro-Semitic WASP Elites of the Victorian era were pro-Arabic and pro-Islamic (a few of those pro-Moslems were either pro-Iranian or pro-Turkish, but most were pro-Arabic).
Out of that divide would come two things: the Balfour Declaration, and thus the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, and the Brits backing the House of Saud and thus necessarily Wahhabi Islam.
The pro-Semitic nature of WASP (Elite) culture guaranteed - because nobody was powerful enough to stop WASP culture from creating them - both Israel and Saudi Arabia.
And look what we have today: the successor to the British Empire, the USA, backing both Israel and Saudi Arabia as they do endless mischief, more than a bit of it evil.
WASP culture created both Israel and the power of the Saudis. WASP cultural Elites are anything but innocent victims of Jewish and Saudi manipulations.
Thoughtful post.
Makes sense.
I just think that the belief, which resulted in collusion now got into phase where ‘minority group’ simply DIRECT the way.
They are good, know what they want, control two important levers of power (finance and media) and simply go for what they want.
So, yes, collusion definitely, but which group holds primacy in defining strategic goals is open to debate.
That’s their major problem. They’ve run out of crappy little countries to throw against the wall. They’ve out of options with Ukraine and Syria, and the latest crappy little country to call their bluff is North Korea. I’m laughing my ass off.
Trump is not an independent unfettered player. Your statement is a lie — the truth is that Trump lives in a Jew centric world where he is surround by Jewish interests.
His grandchildren are Jews. His money is entwined with Jews. His administration is staffed with Jews. His generals are also not impartial and independent – they are all Deep State players who willingly fight Israel’s battles. If they did not – they would have been purged long ago.
The whole trust of your comment is a lie – it is a ruse. Many may be Gentile – but they are not free and independent. There are NO unconstrained independent Gentile people in the US elite establishment – they all answer to the Jews agenda. Name one – name ten – name a hundred people who openly oppose the Jew scheme.
Those people live in terror of the Jews. They will all mouth the victim status of the Jews.
And isn't Treason subject to some rather serious legal sanctions? Why aren't we hanging Traitors instead of quietly flying them back to Israel or wherever?
Ultimately the reason is that Jews are Holy objects to Christians. Christians worship Yeshua (a Jew) and his putative father-god YHWH. It really is that simple. America has enough Evangelicals alone to ensure the course never deviates and will fulfill their sacred prophesies. Jews run media? So what? Jews run RELIGION in America - both the communist bureaucratic State diversity cult as well as Christianity (Yeshuanity). It's awfully hard to condemn Jews when one worships them.
And, this is how they view one essential element of your faith… those f-cking ingrates;
Say what you want about Judaism, but at least we’re a monotheistic religion. One G-d. No footnotes. No loopholes. Christianity? Not so much.
We still remember our response when the Holy Trinity was first explained to us. We were astounded how fucked up this whole thing is. So G-d is Jesus’ father, but they are also one and the same? How the hell is that possible? Who in their right mind came up with this crap? And then… who the devil is that?
The Holy Ghost, that’s who. Yeah, we just don’t get it. The Holy Ghost is the supposed creator of the universe, but wouldn’t that make him G-d? So why the duality? Or is he/she G-d’s spiritual form? What the hell is that supposed to mean? And then he/she sometimes appears as a dove? So the Holy Spirit can take a material form, but that of fowl? Weirdness.
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Sorry, Christians. It’s all poppycock to us.
Pick one.
1. Good-feel post ('I am so enlightened"). Treat this post as idiotic. Makes you feel even better I guess.
2. Interested in topic but with 15 seconds attention span plus "I want it all NOW" plus "I deserve perfect life" Treat this post as idiotic too.
3. I am not a Christian.Not even religious....I guess. Maybe, if one wants a definition....agnostic wold work. Probably.
So, if you really want to understand it, well, you'll need to dig into that a lot more. A.......lot..........more....
It's simply....deep.
So, it's 1 or 2 then.
Monotheism is an analogy for World government. All relatively modern (within the past 5000 years or so for civilized tribes) concepts of god are analogies for Kingship or rulership.
God began from the concept of the tribal hero or leader, who evolved into an ethnic King either in reality or later myth, and then we had deified ancestor Kings as gods.
Later, when tribes had the opportunity to spread empire and rule other tribes, the deified ancestor king concept was unhitched from its tribal roots and the non-anthropomorphic and unknowable "sky god" was imagined so that the different tribes could believe in the same god without ethnic conflict. This much is even well explained on Wikipedia, if you know where to read.
Your god is fake, and not even legitimate insofar as religious anthropology is concerned. Most deifiied ancestor kings turned sky god would still have a racial connotation. Your sky god supposedly is one that originated from a mixed race tribe, which is laughable if there is supposed to be any notion of true spirituality linked to your god. That original spirituality, apart from any political imperialism, being inextricably linked to racial Kings, Heroes, and ancestors.
It doesn't matter how much "weird" Kabbalah you invent to place yourselves at the foot of your World King, this phantasm is just that. Most people take medication for schizophrenia.
I can see ancestor veneration as a form of spirituality, because there are at least genes connecting the prayerful person to the deceased. But to worship a politically invented "unknowable" being in the hope that the world will do the same has to be a form of mental illness. If not mental illness, then its pure imperialism.
Last, let's get real. You don't actually worship a god, but the Sabbath; which is the result of your hopes for world imperialism that will have the rest of the world working while you do not. A master-slave relationship, yes?
Now if you could only get gentiles to always at least carry something in their pockets on Saturdays to represent work and so the Sabbath is not desecrated, while you wait for every Jew to eschew work two Saturdays in a row to mark the arrival of your world empire.
The Christian god is a mega universal god seeking peace for all --- not a puny tiny, one tribe god – a god that exhibits himself in Israel, a nation of haters and terrorists.
Our Christian god is hopeful and merciful seeking peace for all of humanity. The Jew god favors one tribe. The Christian god is moving humanity to peace – the Jew god to division, hate, chaos and war.
The Jew god exhibits himself in Israel. He champions apartheid, summery killing, torture, detention without trial, squatting, gross unfair internal wars against defenseless people, and endless waring attacks on its neighbors. "By deception it makes war."
Clearly the pip squeak tribal Jew god is immoral and inferior.
Think Peace --- Art
Really? How many volumes in Talmud? (The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long.)
Baseball!
Sometimes you gotta crack (Persian) heads to show everyone who’s in charge and that you have to be part of the team.
Peace.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must've seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
Agree with
It’s interesting, actually.
One side: Jews are only to blame (Anglos are just naive and deceived…….). That “naive and deceived” is just hilarious.
Other side: Anglos are the only to blame. Well, looking for ethnic makeup of Neocon group, not quite true.
Maybe there IS something in that “Jews are prominently represented in all areas which require cognitive leadership”.
Yes, but PG did not mention one significant factor–that the reason Jews are so successful at this game is because Christians, particular American Christians, have a visceral hatred of Islam/Muslims. The Jews have taken advantage of this hate and channeled it.
I am ethnically Chinese and I am the first to hit out at flaws in the Chinese culture. Mainland Chinese are the most atrocious and corrupt bunch today and the US would do well to deter more of this group from immigrating here today. My loyalty is to the United States, not to China or “my tribe”. F the tribe.
If the Jews were more introspective and self-critical rather than always hiding behind charges of anti-semitism to deflect any and all blames so they don’t have to change their behavior, perhaps they wouldn’t be so unpopular today.
That’s false, in any discerning context.
“White” implies a lack of detectable sub-saharan African and Arab genes if we are speaking about any tribe from Europe, the ME, or Africa. Racial Jews have both.
The statement that “Jews are White” is not only false insofar as they are concerned, but is also an implication that other Whites can have African genes but remain as White as Whites without them.
Jews are obsessed with outrunning their race-mixing shame, or in other words with outrunning the African gene, which is a large motivator behind their equality politics. They are essentially a race mixed tribe who couldn’t deal with:
1. what they did in a race mixing context
2. what they did as justification for further race mixing or extinction
3. the spiritual (as per God’s biblical edicts) implications of their race mixing
4. and the practical (HBD) ramifications of their race mixing.
So, in essence, we have a tribe who has long resigned themselves to creating a world wherein there is no better tribe than their race mixed tribe, where their race mixed tribe is somehow looked upon as god’s tribe, and in which they survive as an inbred race mixed tribe.
They can never outrun their gene, and will always be sore about that fact. Everytime that you see a “Jew Fro”, be reminded of their gene, what they claim about themselves, and their motivations.
That god’s tribe is a race-mixed tribe is a ridiculous notion. God, as a concept, is both nature and a racial King (both concepts can be readily proven in historical religious studies – the “unknowable” god that Jews currently present to outsiders is a parallel to the mesopotamian AN, and other non-anthropomorphic sky god’s that always come into existence when a tribe wants to rule multiple other tribes and therefore needs to depart from the racial King concept).
Most race mixed tribe’s would come to the conclusion that either continued race mixing or fading into the good night would be reasonable outcomes for them. However, with this tribe we have a refusal to concede to their past sin and thus a demand for all other pure tribes to be destroyed so that they may thrive and rule.
Also curly hair is not evidence of being black. Europeans can have "fros" too -- like Steven Moffat, a Scottish guy.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must've seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
Indeed, and the Iraq War occurred in 2003.
Haaretz wrote in that year:
“In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history.”
That paragraph is not incorrect, even if it is not the full story.
Can you not conceive that the undoubted “prominent representation” (at least) in the area of foreign policy, and the evident tilt of that foreign policy towards wars that appear to be in the interests of Israel (or at any rate the interests of Israel as they are seen by those prominent representatives), could create a justified concern in a reasonable opponent of US military interventionism that US policy in that area is being pushed in the wrong direction by a powerful group whose loyalties are at least conflicted?
Can you not accept that dual loyalty could ever be a legitimate concern for those who don’t like the way US policy is pushed by the “prominent representation” you are prepared to admit to?
Can you not accept that “dual loyalty” is a perfectly legitimate suspicion to raise against anyone with clear nationalist or religious ties to a foreign country?
Indeed, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the case Giraldi makes here, except to the extent that you speculate that it is motivation for presenting it.
In that sense, it is mere ad hominem.
An assertion that has nothing to do with Giraldi’s argument here.
I do not mean to say that all U.S. wars were the fruit of clear-headed thinking, indeed some weren't, but I am yet to be presented with a roster of such, waged by other great powers, never in question, never in fault nor folly.Quite so in the case of this particular piece. And I meant more the commentaries which inevitably call as home, Giraldi's corner.
Further, I must say the lines demarcating his various articles do get blurred in my view, each vying to outdo the previous in its single-minded reviling of a certain group. In those articles, should you feel disposed to search, you will find that infernal idea of which I speak.
Randal, simplicity tends to produce the correct answers. One might disagree with American policy; Neocon policy; or those of Zionism; or those of the Mafia. Let's not call them Jewish or Italian conspiracies, shall we?
And here’s some firsthand testimony from a non-American:
Gilad to these people is like showing the cross to the devil
The creation of a Jewish state in the middle of the Arab-Islamic world was pure insanity, both for the Jews and the United States, our “ally” as our bane. The creation of Israel was opposed by George Marshall, Dean Acheson, Dean Rusk, and others I’m sure (I’m hardly an expert on the matter). They knew what would happen, generally if not specifically: wars, terrorism, involving not only Israel but also the U.S. and it’s allies. Though I’m sure they didn’t envision 9/11 and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and much else, nor what will occur henceforth: the bombing and invasion and occupation of Iran?
Fair enough I suppose, but I reserve the right to point out the self-fulfilling nature of your objections to discussing that particular aspect of reality. You kowtow to an elite-imposed taboo that protects what is, at the least, one of the strongest pro-war lobbies from criticism, and thereby reinforce that taboo.
Your choice, I suppose, but your hysterical accusations against Giraldi remain both hysterical and based in your ideological dogma rather than in reality.Ok. Personally, I'm not a hippy so I tend to regard such drippy idealism as naïve nonsense. Especially as "solidarity and internationalism", far from being weapons against militarism, have in fact been dogmas used precisely to drive ahead one of the major strands of military interventionism, namely "R2P" and all the rest of the "humanitarian" interventionist nonsense.
Dream on, though. At least you can feel good about your own virtuous opposition to badwhite thinking whilst you ineffectually flap against the next war.Again, you try to reinforce your own desperate attempt to avoid recognising a real problem that you find ideologically difficult to acknowledge by waving your hands about other aspects of the problem.
Harsh criticism of AIPAC and related organizations for their substantial negative influence in the places where it does exist (like US promotion of Israeli settlement policy, which serves no immediate American interest), is appropriate and highly welcome. Claiming that “America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars” is not, because (a) it isn’t true, (b) it’s bigoted, (c) it makes you look cranky and turns a lot of people off. Proposing to label people on TV by ethnicity (Kristol isn’t repellent because he’s Jewish) is similarly obnoxious.
It’s only the best weapon in the imperialist countries. In the targeted countries like Iran and North Korea, the best weapons (at least in the short term) are things like rockets, missiles, and hydrogen bombs (all of these are meant as deterrents, of course). I’m not entirely a hippy.
A colonial ideology like “R2P” isn’t an example of solidarity and internationalism anymore than its 19th century predecessors like “The White Man’s Burden” were.
It’s the dominant problem (or one of them). That ought to force a shift in priorities.
You may be tempted to make the point that not all Jews believe in the political program, which I would then retort with pointing out that in fact Kristol does. He's as politically Jewish as it comes.
I'd relent to your point for Jews who denounce Judaism. No others.
"The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. "
But presumably Haaretz's writer was just another unhinged bigot, in your view.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must've seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
I think you are ignoring that Haaretz article cited by Greg Bacon. I have to say I found it a bit shocking. I recall a Jewish editor friend who had been US correspondent for a major newspaper responding in 2003 to statements about the Jewishness of neo-cons noting that Rumsfeld and Cheney weren’t Jewish. I think it is hard to get away from groupthink (among Jewish neo-cons) as part of the disaster and that groupthink would include seeing no difference between US and Israeli interests in what it took, in missionary spirit, to sort out the undemocratic ME. Think of the way Australians and New Zealanders lined up to fight for the British Empire from the Boer War (and earlier) to WW2. Not exactly analagous but near enough.
I don’t understand the Trump opposition to the Iran deal. Do you?
Wars tend to advance military careers so it is a bit worrying that Trump seems to love generals in such an unbalanced way.
PG may ne a bit overboard in his suggestion (if I rightly infer it) that the neocons who seized the opportunity after 9/11 to grab the agenda for their own uniquely thought out agenda did so for Israel rather than America but is it possible to ignore the less highminded control of US politicians by AIPAC and similar lobby groups supported ny the money of people like Sheldon Adeldon? (A politician whose domestic policy positions have been bought by four or five domestic lobby groups is surely not going to leave his ME policy unsold).
Even if America decided to go to war against Iran on behalf of Israel, who is going to fight? Young white men, the majority of military men are becoming increasingly aware of the slow motion genocide being waged against them by Jews at home, right here in America. I don’t believe aggrieved white men are going to volunteer to fight and risk their lives fighting for a people that hate them and want them dead. Who fights then? Transsexuals, minorities and women?
You’re right….it’s hilarious watching the pathetic US proxy doing the jooie cultists’ bidding. Maybe Americans are just naturally subservient suck-butts and need someone to lead them around by the nose. And there is zero chance of an attack on Korea……nothing in it for the jooies so it won’t happen.
Three options.
Pick one.
1. Good-feel post (‘I am so enlightened”). Treat this post as idiotic. Makes you feel even better I guess.
2. Interested in topic but with 15 seconds attention span plus “I want it all NOW” plus “I deserve perfect life” Treat this post as idiotic too.
3. I am not a Christian.Not even religious….I guess. Maybe, if one wants a definition….agnostic wold work. Probably.
So, if you really want to understand it, well, you’ll need to dig into that a lot more. A…….lot……….more….
It’s simply….deep.
So, it’s 1 or 2 then.
His grandchildren are Jews. His money is entwined with Jews. His administration is staffed with Jews. His generals are also not impartial and independent – they are all Deep State players who willingly fight Israel’s battles. If they did not – they would have been purged long ago.
The whole trust of your comment is a lie – it is a ruse. Many may be Gentile – but they are not free and independent. There are NO unconstrained independent Gentile people in the US elite establishment – they all answer to the Jews agenda. Name one – name ten – name a hundred people who openly oppose the Jew scheme.
Those people live in terror of the Jews. They will all mouth the victim status of the Jews.
Have a look at what you wrote about Trump back on Election Day. Given that Trump having Jewish friends, family, and business partners was public information for decades, you must be colossally stupid. No wonder the Jews run everything, when their enemies are so lame.
Yes - you Jews are running things – but right into the ground. What craziness and chaos that is going on in today’s American culture is on YOU JEWS – you broke it - you own it!
Think Peace --- Art
Fair enough I suppose, but I reserve the right to point out the self-fulfilling nature of your objections to discussing that particular aspect of reality. You kowtow to an elite-imposed taboo that protects what is, at the least, one of the strongest pro-war lobbies from criticism, and thereby reinforce that taboo.
Your choice, I suppose, but your hysterical accusations against Giraldi remain both hysterical and based in your ideological dogma rather than in reality.Ok. Personally, I'm not a hippy so I tend to regard such drippy idealism as naïve nonsense. Especially as "solidarity and internationalism", far from being weapons against militarism, have in fact been dogmas used precisely to drive ahead one of the major strands of military interventionism, namely "R2P" and all the rest of the "humanitarian" interventionist nonsense.
Dream on, though. At least you can feel good about your own virtuous opposition to badwhite thinking whilst you ineffectually flap against the next war.Again, you try to reinforce your own desperate attempt to avoid recognising a real problem that you find ideologically difficult to acknowledge by waving your hands about other aspects of the problem.
I think Matt got off to a bad start with his rant against what he called a rant and now you have found him out waffling about solidarity and internationalism. You might also have pointed out unkindly his failure in basic logic as exemplified by the reference to Noam Chomsky as if PG eere saying that all Jews agreed.
Still, it would be good to know where Trump’s anti-Iran views come from.
Just a guess.
Peace.
As for how all the obsessively dishonest and irrational nonsense about Iran came to be mainstream in the US, I have in the past suggested the following as explaining the situation:
1. Undue political and media influence from Iran's regional rivals, Israel and Saudi Arabia, whose interests a paranoid US fear of Iran clearly serves;
2. Lingering soreness about the US getting some much-deserved payback from Iranians at the time of the hostage crisis, for decades of bloody interference in Iranian affairs;
3. Simple outrage at the sight of a medium sized developing country daring not to breathlessly ask "how high, sir?", when told to jump by Washington.
[To 2 can be added soreness about other occasions when the US has received some kickback against its own military aggression from Iran or Iran's allies, such as Lebanon, Iraq and most recently Syria.]
Also, one can look for people in Trump's family and close associates who are members of or have affiliations to the groups that have the strongest reasons to badmouth Iran - Israelis, jews who identify as pro-Israel, Saudis, sunni muslims in general.
I don't think there's any great mystery there.
Ignoring what we could say about your religion’s weirdness, and how easily Christian symbolism is explained, your “monotheism” is nothing to be proud of and especially in this comments section.
Monotheism is an analogy for World government. All relatively modern (within the past 5000 years or so for civilized tribes) concepts of god are analogies for Kingship or rulership.
God began from the concept of the tribal hero or leader, who evolved into an ethnic King either in reality or later myth, and then we had deified ancestor Kings as gods.
Later, when tribes had the opportunity to spread empire and rule other tribes, the deified ancestor king concept was unhitched from its tribal roots and the non-anthropomorphic and unknowable “sky god” was imagined so that the different tribes could believe in the same god without ethnic conflict. This much is even well explained on Wikipedia, if you know where to read.
Your god is fake, and not even legitimate insofar as religious anthropology is concerned. Most deifiied ancestor kings turned sky god would still have a racial connotation. Your sky god supposedly is one that originated from a mixed race tribe, which is laughable if there is supposed to be any notion of true spirituality linked to your god. That original spirituality, apart from any political imperialism, being inextricably linked to racial Kings, Heroes, and ancestors.
It doesn’t matter how much “weird” Kabbalah you invent to place yourselves at the foot of your World King, this phantasm is just that. Most people take medication for schizophrenia.
I can see ancestor veneration as a form of spirituality, because there are at least genes connecting the prayerful person to the deceased. But to worship a politically invented “unknowable” being in the hope that the world will do the same has to be a form of mental illness. If not mental illness, then its pure imperialism.
Last, let’s get real. You don’t actually worship a god, but the Sabbath; which is the result of your hopes for world imperialism that will have the rest of the world working while you do not. A master-slave relationship, yes?
Now if you could only get gentiles to always at least carry something in their pockets on Saturdays to represent work and so the Sabbath is not desecrated, while you wait for every Jew to eschew work two Saturdays in a row to mark the arrival of your world empire.
"White" implies a lack of detectable sub-saharan African and Arab genes if we are speaking about any tribe from Europe, the ME, or Africa. Racial Jews have both.
The statement that "Jews are White" is not only false insofar as they are concerned, but is also an implication that other Whites can have African genes but remain as White as Whites without them.
Jews are obsessed with outrunning their race-mixing shame, or in other words with outrunning the African gene, which is a large motivator behind their equality politics. They are essentially a race mixed tribe who couldn't deal with:
1. what they did in a race mixing context
2. what they did as justification for further race mixing or extinction
3. the spiritual (as per God's biblical edicts) implications of their race mixing
4. and the practical (HBD) ramifications of their race mixing.
So, in essence, we have a tribe who has long resigned themselves to creating a world wherein there is no better tribe than their race mixed tribe, where their race mixed tribe is somehow looked upon as god's tribe, and in which they survive as an inbred race mixed tribe.
They can never outrun their gene, and will always be sore about that fact. Everytime that you see a "Jew Fro", be reminded of their gene, what they claim about themselves, and their motivations.
That god's tribe is a race-mixed tribe is a ridiculous notion. God, as a concept, is both nature and a racial King (both concepts can be readily proven in historical religious studies - the "unknowable" god that Jews currently present to outsiders is a parallel to the mesopotamian AN, and other non-anthropomorphic sky god's that always come into existence when a tribe wants to rule multiple other tribes and therefore needs to depart from the racial King concept).
Most race mixed tribe's would come to the conclusion that either continued race mixing or fading into the good night would be reasonable outcomes for them. However, with this tribe we have a refusal to concede to their past sin and thus a demand for all other pure tribes to be destroyed so that they may thrive and rule.
The fact free wanking of a social isolate.
Quien es mas antisemítico?
Here, you are asking us to, for a moment, believe that Judaism isn’t a political program. It absolutely is. Therefore, it isn’t unreasonable to mention Jewishness in light of a Jew’s political commentary.
You may be tempted to make the point that not all Jews believe in the political program, which I would then retort with pointing out that in fact Kristol does. He’s as politically Jewish as it comes.
I’d relent to your point for Jews who denounce Judaism. No others.
The United States, like all great powers, has in her history an unbroken record of wars preceding the rise of Neocons [not interchangeable with Jews]. That Jews in leadership positions have contributed to foreign policy [here in the U.S., as they did for various HMGs] is not in dispute; what is, is this infernal charge of a Jewish plan spanning millennia. You must've seen it here. No matter whether one subscribes to a reality-based worldview or otherwise, that charge, strips off agency from all others: a patently absurd position, which can only arise from Antisemitism.
“Jews are prominently represented in all areas which required cognitive leadership.” Sam The Sham, comment # 156.
Oh well, was Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin “thinking with his (cognitive) dick” when he had ZUSA military jet fly him & bride Louise Linton around Europe for their honeymoon?
Selah let ‘dem eat cake.
Not quite, though they wish. They do weasel in whenever possible though.
Follow the corruption money making, there is where you find them.
What is antisemitism and why should we accept your implication that it is de facto wrong?
Do you believe that anti-Aryanism is de facto wrong?
If Judaism has political goals, which it does as its central reason for existence, then are you in essence saying that fighting back against those political goals is de facto wrong (antisemitic)?
The fact free rebuttal of a propagandist.
Is there anything specific that you think you can adequately discuss or refute?
You may be tempted to make the point that not all Jews believe in the political program, which I would then retort with pointing out that in fact Kristol does. He's as politically Jewish as it comes.
I'd relent to your point for Jews who denounce Judaism. No others.
Well, Orthodox Judaism does have a political program in the sense that it desires the resurrection of the Davidic monarchy in Palestine in the post-Messianic age. But that won’t be for some time, I’m told, and besides, the most hardcore Orthodox Jews tend not to be Zionists, which is what you seem to be primarily worried about.
There are so many varieties of Orthodox Jew, even "hardcore variety", that it is impossible to make such sweeping statements. However, if a statement were to be made, I can tell you from lengthy first hand intimate experience that the majority are not anit-Zionist unless you are using anti-Zionism as a qualification for "hardcore".
If that's the case, then most Orthodox Jews are not "hardcore". But you could fool me, because everything that they do in life is directed and defined by their Judaism, from clothing, to food, to Shabbos, to dating and marriage, to education, etc.
For me, the biggest "things" to worry about are two (2).
One is the crooked elite secular (non-Orthodox) American Jews who staunchly support perpetual US wars for the creation of Greater Israel.
My (close) # 2 concern is the extremely (!) crooked Russian-Jewish oligarchs who lay in wait for their shot to replace President Vladimir Putin.
THANKS.
Not all Jews are Zionists, but actually, not all Jews are Jews. Demographically Orthodox Jews will eventually, possibly rather soon, overwhelm the other ‘styles’ of Jewishness. Orthodox Jews like the Satmar will likely be the future. So you should start listening to them now.
Still, it would be good to know where Trump's anti-Iran views come from.
Maybe some Persian honey wouldn’t let him grab her lady parts.
Just a guess.
Peace.
Steve Bannon and his supposed alt-right rag Breitbart are incredibly pro-Israel. I supposed it has something to do with its founder Andrew Breitbart being a Jew. Every time Trump or Nikki Haley says something nasty about Iran, you’ll get plenty of Breitbart commenters echoing their sentiment egging them on, you can tell by their inane comments many have no idea why they should hate Iran, other than Breitbart told them to. They’ve fully bought into the Breitbart narrative that Iran is evil and must be destroyed. The Trump fan boys/girls who continue to blindly support him despite all his betrayals are every bit as stupid as the libtards they claim to hate.
The real puzzle is - of the three, Trump, Bannon or Breitbart, who is the most assiduous Zionist?
Still, it would be good to know where Trump's anti-Iran views come from.
“America’s Jews” reads, to me, like it refers to all Jews in America. At the very least, using the phrase indicates that one tends to see the differences among such a large group of people as unimportant enough to justify viewing them as a monolith rather than a diverse group of human beings who display wide variation in beliefs and behavior. I’d call that bigotry. If Giraldi would like to clarify, he’s free to do so.
It probably comes in part from a bigoted view of Islam and Muslims, one that collapses even such coarse-grained distinctions as the Sunni-Shia split, which makes him incapable of recognizing that the threat from “radical Islamic terror” comes overwhelmingly from Sunni jihadists, and essentially not at all from Shia. Resentment over the 1979 hostage crisis probably also plays a role. He no doubt remembers it, as it was on TV at the time quite a bit.
As for why Iran is so hated among other influential actors, the fact that it is an independent country that sits on a large amount of oil is no doubt the predominant factor. Veteran military and intelligence guys are no doubt still seething over losing such an important American ally as the Shah (same reason they hated Castro so much). The memory of the hostage crisis exacerbates this, as it probably does with Trump himself. And yes, the fact that Iran supplies Hezbollah, the major deterrent to Israeli aggression and colonialism, plays a role as well.
What? Are you really that sappy? What is “America” but its citizens which aspire to a life in pursuit of liberty, prosperity, and happiness? Let’s not indulge in wishy-washy nonsense.
I don’t know with great certainty whether American values, including her economic model, will persist for as long as Rome did – which was for 1400 years – mired in more wars per annum than the U.S ever has, but I am willing to wager that some version of the American construct will persist for a long time. I don’t see a superior alternative.
Just a guess.
Peace.
I think that he boxed himself in politically by opposing the agreement. Now that he is Prez he needs to stick to some of his rhetoric. There is no political downside to opposing the Iran deal.
I think the only real thing keeping us from making a move is that we know if we hit Iran, they will hit back, and this time it'll hurt. And this to me is the nightmare scenario:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XQan1qo8T4
Peace.
Clearly it is true, as Giraldi has demonstrated it by naming high profile and highly influential individuals involved in the driving, and you have not effectively contested his point. All you have done is point to other issues that you feel are more important in that driving. That’s fine as far as it goes, but it isn’t a refutation.
Again, this is your ideological dogma speaking and it has no relation to reality. Declaring it as “bigoted” merely because it offends your antiracist ideology is particularly absurd since Giraldi has adduced evidence to support his case whereas you have merely declared it anathema on principle. You should ponder who is the bigot here (clue – it isn’t Giraldi).
Again, you merely kowtow to the taboo that is one of the strongest weapons in the US militarist armoury. Taboos (political ones that are imposed in order to protect elites and their dogmas from attack) should be smashed, not meekly worshipped.
The proposal (tongue in cheek, of course, because of the inherent absurdity of expecting the US media of all groups to do any such thing) is to highlight the potential nationalist bias of a supposed expert on foreign policy who is presumably expounding the supposed benefits of a policy that just happens to benefit (as they see it) the country they feel loyalty to. Doesn’t seem particularly unreasonable when you put it that way.
Just like all those “drawbacks” of communist regimes around the world didn’t justify criticism of communism, because they “weren’t real communism”. I’m afraid R2P and “humanitarian” intervention are absolutely the very essence of “internationalism” and “solidarity”. You just don’t want to admit it because it calls your faith into question.
That’s your opinion. I think the quote from Haaretz linked in post 21 above better reflects the reality of the invasion of Iraq, at least – probably the single worst (most costly and most egregiously illegal and immoral) example of military interventionism in recent years:
“The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. ”
But presumably Haaretz’s writer was just another unhinged bigot, in your view.
The “messianic age” is a political program that the resurrection of the Davidic Monarchy is a part of. Getting the world to that Messianic time comprises the political actions to which I was referring.
There are so many varieties of Orthodox Jew, even “hardcore variety”, that it is impossible to make such sweeping statements. However, if a statement were to be made, I can tell you from lengthy first hand intimate experience that the majority are not anit-Zionist unless you are using anti-Zionism as a qualification for “hardcore”.
If that’s the case, then most Orthodox Jews are not “hardcore”. But you could fool me, because everything that they do in life is directed and defined by their Judaism, from clothing, to food, to Shabbos, to dating and marriage, to education, etc.
When did the Supreme Court have a majority of Jews on it? Total BS of course and do easy to check that it marks you ďown as afflicted by the Rothschilds-Own-Evetything madness whoch means everything you say had to be treated even more sceptically than most comments.
Good for the goose. This is what media, academia and the political classes ruled at the tip-top by folks of Jewish persuasion. Sorry, but I'll buy in when Palestinians have hiring preference in the Israeli government and economy. Oh, sorry, they can't even get in. I don't know why they don't take advantage of the pools of cheap labor from the West Bank, Gaza and so on? If it's good for us, why not them? They too create refugees..
I think this is what is considered a deep thinker in CA.
Just a guess.
Peace.
That’s very possibly a factor.
Just a guess.
Peace.
It comes from holding US embassy staff hostage for 400+ days in Tehran.
Iranians had every right to expel the Embassy staff, but Iranian leadership screwed up big time by allowing the hot headed students to take and hold Americans hostage that long. The hurt was compounded by the failed rescue attempt disaster.
Americans are non-vindictive and quite generous when victorious (e.g. Germany and Japan), but don’t take defeat and humiliation very well (e.g. Viet Nam).
Of course Americans, including Trump, only remember what was done to Americans, but conveniently forget that US&UK started it all when they overthrew the democratically elected Mosaddegh in 1953, installed the unelected Shah, trained SAVAK to torture Iranians for decades,…..and the rest is history, as they say.
Nevertheless, even though they were the wronged party, Iranian should have sent the entire embassy staff to the airport first day, swept the embassy for anything useful, then raise it to the ground. Sort of like what they did to the two US patrol boats that ‘accidentally’ invaded Iranian territorial waters. The US sailors were treated well, were fed, then quickly released. Incident closed.
All this “Jews this” and “Jews that” just feels simply not quite right.
Can’t really put my finger on it, but reminds me of blaming tobacco companies executives/marketing/sales people for smoking induced health issues.
Or, blaming food companies executives/marketing/sales people for being overweight.
Feels……disingenuous.
Jews rule media. Media is this/that.
Fine….don’t read/buy/watch/enjoy it.
Or, more likely….I do like that, and I do know it’s bad, but, I also do have that “Jews did it”. No blame on myself. None.
US itself was created by constant expansion, mostly by force of arms. Since its creation. Since The War of 1812.
Blaming Jews for all that is just……not correct.
Nobody disputes they are what they are.
Cynic would say they are just better in that then other competitors in the same game.
But, blaming post Cold War US foreign policy just on Jews is …wrong.
There is their portion of blame, of course.
But, there is a lot to blame other players too.
I guess that properly appointing the blame on all the players would be good.
Maybe starting with some of core US values wouldn’t be a bad idea?
Do you mean incorrect, or do you mean wrong?
I have an idea. Why don’t we all immediately stop listening to any Jews as it regards politics, banking, news, education, and any science other than math and physics.
the biggest war monger of them all was zero Jewish.
Dick Cheney
Someone explain to me how that happened ?????
from George Will to Tony Blair, Paul Ryan to Marco Rubio, they're feces-eaters and they'll do *anything* for their bag of thirty shekels - (access to little boys from war-torn regions for Lindsey Graham, television time for John McCain, political power for Paul Ryan)
many of the Jewish neocons at least have some shred of dignity, as their treachery is at least intended to benefit their own tribe. But the goyim who serve Israel are lower than snail slime on the scale of abased human depravities. Marco would eat the **** literally out of Sheldon Adelson's *** for a chance to be potus. Same for Jeb and all the other goyim feces feasters.
it is because guys like Paul Ryan are utterly without a shred of human integrity or dignity that they've been anointed to serve the tribe.
Still, it would be good to know where Trump's anti-Iran views come from.
Good point – missed that one. Disappointing to have done so, since it’s such a common feature of the spurious antiracist critique.
Do normal American views in an American Presidential candidate particularly require explaining? In Trump’s case they go back to before his candidacy, so it’s not just a result of the preponderance of anti-Iranian zealots around him now.
As for how all the obsessively dishonest and irrational nonsense about Iran came to be mainstream in the US, I have in the past suggested the following as explaining the situation:
1. Undue political and media influence from Iran’s regional rivals, Israel and Saudi Arabia, whose interests a paranoid US fear of Iran clearly serves;
2. Lingering soreness about the US getting some much-deserved payback from Iranians at the time of the hostage crisis, for decades of bloody interference in Iranian affairs;
3. Simple outrage at the sight of a medium sized developing country daring not to breathlessly ask “how high, sir?”, when told to jump by Washington.
[To 2 can be added soreness about other occasions when the US has received some kickback against its own military aggression from Iran or Iran's allies, such as Lebanon, Iraq and most recently Syria.]
Also, one can look for people in Trump’s family and close associates who are members of or have affiliations to the groups that have the strongest reasons to badmouth Iran – Israelis, jews who identify as pro-Israel, Saudis, sunni muslims in general.
I don’t think there’s any great mystery there.
Much more.We "discussed" that in some other threads, and, of course, disagreed.Maybe we can call your version "moral".
Mine could be called "cynical".But, again, since 1812, when one looks at US foreign policy, looks to me as leaning more towards "cynical" than "moral".So, in this case, Iran, I believe what really drives towards the war is US national interest.
"Jewish/Zionist/Israel connection" is secondary there, just riding an opportunity.
Or at least that’s what they tell the goys they want to die for Isreal.
I don't know with great certainty whether American values, including her economic model, will persist for as long as Rome did - which was for 1400 years - mired in more wars per annum than the U.S ever has, but I am willing to wager that some version of the American construct will persist for a long time. I don't see a superior alternative.
How did you get “sappy” from what I said? I’d call your statement sappy, and the statement of mine you quoted the opposite of sappy.
Giraldi is correct. There must be a situation whereby those with a personal [pro or con] relationship with any foreign country be recused from holding any policy position. Even those elected to serve in the Congress and vote for disbursement of taxes for any foreign country with which there is a family or ethnic relationship shall not be qualified to vote. Tax dollars must be objectively voted for the benefit of the interests of the U.S. This does not restrict first amendment rights or the selection of those elected. These restrictions shall apply to every U.S. citizen regardless of race or religion. U.S. tax dollars are currently awarded on the basis of those receiving campaign contributions which contributes to corruption. Furthermore, it denies U.S. citizens benefits from their own taxes.
The entire news media is corrupt as well as Hollywood. Moreover, citizens must begin to sue in Federal courts when they can prove that a group, such as AIPAC or the ADL, is seeking punishment or actually instigated punishment because a U.S. citizen has exercised the right to freely object to serving the interests of any particular foreign country. If it is lawful and within our constitutional rights to criticize our own country, it is indeed lawful to criticize any country on this earth, Israel included!
Or hasbarists and their xian Zionist sidekicks, especially those with PEA (Philosophical Evangelical Atheist) brains.
If the Iranian threat against Israel is fake, why do the American Jews want to go to war against Iran?
I was kidding of course, but I agree with you here. As well as the fact that both Israel and Saudi have his ear – those are the two main places where this foreign policy nonsense of no-negotiating-with-the-iranis-or-you-are-a-hitler-appeaser comes from. And now that anti-Russian sentiment has been hyped up and because Iran is becoming closer to Russia, it’s just that much easier to pull off the chest-thumping (no political downsides as you said).
I think the only real thing keeping us from making a move is that we know if we hit Iran, they will hit back, and this time it’ll hurt. And this to me is the nightmare scenario:
Peace.
It’s not the Jews
The real reason behind America’s wars is the very american idolatry of egalitarianism and democracy
An advisor to Woodrow Wilson hoped that WW1 will finally put european monarchies to rest. League of Nations was situated in Geneva. Lincoln said: “No man is good enough to govern another man without the other’s consent.”. This need to democratize the world is pre-neocon, neocons could only take advantage of it
Since american elites reason only in terms of Equality and Democracy, once you achieve those aims in your country, then you naturally shift your attention to foreign affairs and try to extend those ideas there
If Israel wasn’t perceived as “democratic”, then it wouldn’t get american support
Haaretz wrote in that year:
"In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history."
That paragraph is not incorrect, even if it is not the full story.Can you not conceive that the undoubted "prominent representation" (at least) in the area of foreign policy, and the evident tilt of that foreign policy towards wars that appear to be in the interests of Israel (or at any rate the interests of Israel as they are seen by those prominent representatives), could create a justified concern in a reasonable opponent of US military interventionism that US policy in that area is being pushed in the wrong direction by a powerful group whose loyalties are at least conflicted?
Can you not accept that dual loyalty could ever be a legitimate concern for those who don't like the way US policy is pushed by the "prominent representation" you are prepared to admit to?
Can you not accept that "dual loyalty" is a perfectly legitimate suspicion to raise against anyone with clear nationalist or religious ties to a foreign country?Indeed, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with the case Giraldi makes here, except to the extent that you speculate that it is motivation for presenting it.
In that sense, it is mere ad hominem.An assertion that has nothing to do with Giraldi's argument here.
I said as much. Krauthammer & Co were instrumental, but they were hardly the lead pieces in the orchestra.
I can conceive it and indeed concede it, that Kristol & Co were influential. A president’s policy is ultimately his own and various interests always seek to align themselves with it, perhaps gaining in other sundry concerns. But the recent wars had many promoters, GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice to name a few. I am deeply sceptical of the notion that these wars were conceived on Israel’s behalf. I am further amused, if not troubled, by this idea that Jews in this country are steadfast in their support of Israel as a monolithic bloc. You’d be hard-pressed to find a group more given to argument and disagreement. But, as in Britain, to call into question loyalties of U.S. Jews, would be to give succour to a favourite falsehood of the fringe. American Jews no more support the state of Israel than do the gentile citizenry.
I do not mean to say that all U.S. wars were the fruit of clear-headed thinking, indeed some weren’t, but I am yet to be presented with a roster of such, waged by other great powers, never in question, never in fault nor folly.
Quite so in the case of this particular piece. And I meant more the commentaries which inevitably call as home, Giraldi’s corner.
Further, I must say the lines demarcating his various articles do get blurred in my view, each vying to outdo the previous in its single-minded reviling of a certain group. In those articles, should you feel disposed to search, you will find that infernal idea of which I speak.
Randal, simplicity tends to produce the correct answers. One might disagree with American policy; Neocon policy; or those of Zionism; or those of the Mafia. Let’s not call them Jewish or Italian conspiracies, shall we?
Still good tho :-)
Care to provide a few examples of these so called giants?
As for how all the obsessively dishonest and irrational nonsense about Iran came to be mainstream in the US, I have in the past suggested the following as explaining the situation:
1. Undue political and media influence from Iran's regional rivals, Israel and Saudi Arabia, whose interests a paranoid US fear of Iran clearly serves;
2. Lingering soreness about the US getting some much-deserved payback from Iranians at the time of the hostage crisis, for decades of bloody interference in Iranian affairs;
3. Simple outrage at the sight of a medium sized developing country daring not to breathlessly ask "how high, sir?", when told to jump by Washington.
[To 2 can be added soreness about other occasions when the US has received some kickback against its own military aggression from Iran or Iran's allies, such as Lebanon, Iraq and most recently Syria.]
Also, one can look for people in Trump's family and close associates who are members of or have affiliations to the groups that have the strongest reasons to badmouth Iran - Israelis, jews who identify as pro-Israel, Saudis, sunni muslims in general.
I don't think there's any great mystery there.
Well, I think you are correct in all that but you stopped short of full explanation.
There is more, IMHO, in (possible) war with Iran then above and Jewish/Zionist/Israel connection”.
Much more.
We “discussed” that in some other threads, and, of course, disagreed.
Maybe we can call your version “moral”.
Mine could be called “cynical”.
But, again, since 1812, when one looks at US foreign policy, looks to me as leaning more towards “cynical” than “moral”.
So, in this case, Iran, I believe what really drives towards the war is US national interest.
“Jewish/Zionist/Israel connection” is secondary there, just riding an opportunity.
The Iranian threat against the US is fake but Israel keeps insisting that it is real, which is a lie. American Jews want to go to war on behalf of Israel because their fundamental loyalty is to Israel, not to the US. Does that describe you Mark?
Say what you want about Judaism, but at least we’re a monotheistic religion. One G-d. No footnotes. No loopholes. Christianity? Not so much.
The Christian god is a mega universal god seeking peace for all — not a puny tiny, one tribe god – a god that exhibits himself in Israel, a nation of haters and terrorists.
Our Christian god is hopeful and merciful seeking peace for all of humanity. The Jew god favors one tribe. The Christian god is moving humanity to peace – the Jew god to division, hate, chaos and war.
The Jew god exhibits himself in Israel. He champions apartheid, summery killing, torture, detention without trial, squatting, gross unfair internal wars against defenseless people, and endless waring attacks on its neighbors. “By deception it makes war.”
Clearly the pip squeak tribal Jew god is immoral and inferior.
Think Peace — Art
"Summery" should be "summary".
"Waring" should be "warring".
Shalom,
Sherm
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matt. 10:34)
Kill Thy Enemies, Awkward Moments Children's Bible
www.awkwardmomentsbible.com/jihadjesus/
Also, let's not forget...
"[T]he Quran derives from a Syriac Christian lectionary."
The Christian Origins of Islam
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/12/the-christian-origins-of-islam
"Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible," Jenkins says.
Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?
npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788
…or something, yeah, a foreskin.
Of course I had to allow scripts from truetorahjews.org in order to comment.
So much for Unz.
Can't really put my finger on it, but reminds me of blaming tobacco companies executives/marketing/sales people for smoking induced health issues.
Or, blaming food companies executives/marketing/sales people for being overweight.
Feels......disingenuous.
Jews rule media. Media is this/that.
Fine....don't read/buy/watch/enjoy it.
Or, more likely....I do like that, and I do know it's bad, but, I also do have that "Jews did it". No blame on myself. None.
US itself was created by constant expansion, mostly by force of arms. Since its creation. Since The War of 1812.
Blaming Jews for all that is just......not correct.
Nobody disputes they are what they are.
Cynic would say they are just better in that then other competitors in the same game.
But, blaming post Cold War US foreign policy just on Jews is ...wrong.
There is their portion of blame, of course.
But, there is a lot to blame other players too.
I guess that properly appointing the blame on all the players would be good.
Maybe starting with some of core US values wouldn't be a bad idea?
Straightforward ideas, hardly disputable. Good comment.
“Drives” implies it’s the predominant factor. And anyway, Giraldi’s list doesn’t include a single person who is actually in the Trump administration. Most of the people (Frum, Boot, et al.) he lists are in fact harsh critics of Trump (for mostly bad reasons, imo), whose influence on his administration is doubtful. My list (Mattis, McMaster, etc.) was, on the other hand, entirely made up of people currently (or formerly, in the case of Flynn and Bannon), in the administration. Who do you think is more likely to be driving the push behind war?
The top brass of the U.S. military is one of the prime factors behind confrontation with not only Iran, but Russia (even more dangerously). These guys have been prepping for the Big One since their days at West Point. And as anti-Semites love pointing out, the number of Jews in the military (and especially the top ranks) is negligible.
Why is the Trump administration and Congress about to sell heavy weaponry to the junta in Ukraine, that has ties to anti-Semitic nationalists? Who is the more anti-Jewish party in that conflict, Ukraine or Russia? Putin has good relations with Israel and with Jewish (and non-Jewish) Russian oligarchs. If the Jews back Ukraine over Russia, they must be stupid. How is it then that they have so much influence?
This (unlike “America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars”) isn’t ipso facto anti-Semitic, but it’s a gross exaggeration. The main “drivers” of that war were Cheney and Rumsfeld, neither of whom were Jewish.
Yes – the Gentiles, Cheney and Rumsfeld, were signatories to the Zionist Jew neocon screed the PNAC (Project for a New American Century). Why is a mystery to me.
Again, the Jews supplied the political and media muscle to do Iraq and Afghanistan. YOU Jews own 9/11 and the Iraq war.
Think Peace --- Art
How many Christians are not Zionists? They all worship the Jewish god YHWH. They all worship his putative son Yeshua. The majority believe ole Yeshua is coming back to fight off that evil old (and also Jewish) Satan. Furthermore, they believe this great title bout must occur in – yessiree – the “holy land” (i.e. Israel/Zion/Jerusalem).
The irony here is perhaps the greatest. The Jew blaming is almost Stormfront level while the commenters pound their translated Hebrew books and whinge that the Jews are conspiring against them. They are far more brainwashed than any communist AntiFa type. “None are so blind as those who refuse to see” and all that. Worshipping some random Jewish bastard who became a handyman or some random desert cave dwelling Jew with vivid hallucinations is exactly the same as the Jews’ worship of a lunatic who talks to god from a mountaintop (or his LDS successor).
IF there’s a Jew conspiracy it’s a couple thousand years old at this point and half the planet is part of it.
Protestantism has always had a heretical standpoint on the jews.
Catholic and Orthodox are NOT Zionist.In fact, please take a read of the Civilta Cattolica article I posted above and you will see that the church is intimately connected to resusting jewish power, as jewish power leads eventually to the rise of the antichrist. Also, search for John Chrysostom 'Against the Jews' to understand how Christianity and the Jews are absolutely opposites.Christian Zionism will likely morph into the religion of the antichrist, becoming THE most deadly heresy.http://originsofman.angelfire.com/pdf/jqseg2.pdf
So what? There’s nothing wrong with ‘antisemitism’.
And do pay attention Zionist, you and those like you are being found out, read the article.
Keep on sweating, The Big ’6M’ Lie is next.
Still owning you.
Oh well, was Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin "thinking with his (cognitive) dick" when he had ZUSA military jet fly him & bride Louise Linton around Europe for their honeymoon?
Selah let 'dem eat cake.
“Jews are prominently represented in all areas which required cognitive leadership.”
Not quite, though they wish. They do weasel in whenever possible though.
Follow the corruption money making, there is where you find them.
The owmer of the stinky quotation you posted is Sam The Sham Shama... not me!
Retreat to my comment and you'll see?
Otherwise your advice to "follow the corrupt money trail" can lead explorers to find out about the Bantustan Solution for American citizens who are opposed to the undercover Talmud golden rule which is to NEVER HELP THOSE WE GRANT 'TOUGH LOVE' TO BE FREE & ESCAPE FROM US.
Post scriptum: Originally, Friedrich Von Hugel said something like that. Uh, Hugel is with an umlaut "u."
THANKS Wally!
Matt,
For me, the biggest “things” to worry about are two (2).
One is the crooked elite secular (non-Orthodox) American Jews who staunchly support perpetual US wars for the creation of Greater Israel.
My (close) # 2 concern is the extremely (!) crooked Russian-Jewish oligarchs who lay in wait for their shot to replace President Vladimir Putin.
THANKS.
First post … Hasbara? I wonder how much they get paid for a five-minute s(troll) and response on a website.
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As you know I had high hopes of Trump, based mostly on my wishful thinking about his dog-whistles. Now I am mostly inclined to view him in terms appropriate to the sell-out to the Judaic world order detailed by Petras in his recent article on Who Rules America.
The main serious person I know of who continues to harbour hopes about Trump's hidden agenda is Mark Glenn of The Ugly Truth.
I had shared with you my opinion that the anti-Iran bluster was just that, given that Russia is Iran's strategic partner. But lately I concluded that it was probably just dangerous Judaic policy. A recent editorial essay in Rothschild's Economist has given me pause. The article strongly opposes taking on the nuclear pact with Iran. So what are the mega-Jews concerned about? Maybe Trump intends to lever Iran into nuclear status. Their leadership says that's what will happen. Trump, like Bannon with his absurd affirmations of allegiance to Judeo-Christian civilisation, might be loving the Jews to death. A nuclear armed Iran might very well be what humanity needs. And America as well. Just a thought.
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21728896-it-right-worry-about-irans-growing-influence-trump-administration-may-be-about
I know this will not convince you. That's okay. It's just a possibility. But keep it tucked away in a recess of your head for future reference.
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If Iran gives every indication of proceeding with nuclear arming, once the US leaves it no alternative, it would require a nuclear umbrella until such time as it could defend itself. That might come from Russian or Chinese nukes under the rubric of SCO. Like American nukes in Turkey and Germany, these could be put at the disposal of the Iranis without violating the Non-Proliferarion Treaty, or at least no more than the American nukes under foreign control do.
You plaster Beware of BS all over your comment by showing yourself afflicted with the Rothschilds-Own-Everything Disease. You really ought to be looking out for Keyser Sõze you know. The Agnelli interest in The Economist is the biggest one since the Pearson group sold out. But you might have called it the Quaker Economist because of the Cadbury family instead of Rothschild’s Economist and caused real confusion…
Zionist sedition in the US is integral to the federal diversity and inclusion scheme.
The diversity scheme is entitlement supremacy of protected class groups, and Zionist are a de facto protected class group in the US.
If you desire to rid the US of Zionist and neocon influence in the US, you would first need to dismantle their victim cult-promoting diversity scheme.
Return to equal protection of the laws as specified in the US constitution.
Feminist are entitled by law because of presumed Male oppression
Jewish are entitled by law because of presumed Gentile oppression
Queers are entitled by law because of presumed Straight oppression
Muslims are entitled by law because of presumed Christian oppression
Disabled are entitled by law because of presumed Healthy oppression
Afro-blacks are entitled by law because of presumed White oppression
Latinos are entitled by law because of presumed Gringo oppression
Hispanics are entitled by law because of presumed Gringo oppression
Military Veterans are entitled by law because of presumed Militia oppression
Native Americans are entitled by law because of presumed Paleface oppression
Asians are entitled by law because of presumed Occidental oppression
International Socialist are entitled by law because of presumed Local Government oppression
Social Justice Crony Capitalist are entitled by law because of presumed Honest Businessmen oppression
Zionist-Neocons are entitled by law because of presumed Anti-Fascist oppression
Bill Clinton was the first black president.
Donald Trump is the first Jewish president.
FDR may have been a Jewish puppet, but he did protect American White Goyim from Jewish plans to destroy us.
But in just 4 years Johnson rammed through congress the laws that are destroying us.
Here is what I wrote then:
I am a Christian and therefor I am hopeful. I was hopeful then and I am hopeful now. No question but that Trump is negatively influenced by his Jew connections. He very well may stupidly kill the Iran nuke treaty, but that does not mean war. Until NKorea is settled, no war is going to happen with Iran.
Yes – you Jews are running things – but right into the ground. What craziness and chaos that is going on in today’s American culture is on YOU JEWS – you broke it – you own it!
Think Peace — Art
No more philosophical, Arts? What happen? Did'ja respond to the altar call this last Sunday and get right with Jesus?
Anti Zionist Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
Http://www.truetorahjews.org
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro explains the reasons why Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Israeli army
http://www.truetorahjews.org/images/rabbishapirovideo.mp4
Maybe Mr Unz could include some 'true' Jews amoung his commentators.
There are also secular Jewish anti Zionists.
Very interesting film and commentary.
In fact, there are Orthodox who firmly support the state of Israel, including Orthodox who have immigrated to Israel.
One comment that Rabbi Shapiro made was that the Israeli military didn’t need or want the Orthodox Yeshiva students. If true, the question or drafting Yeshiva students becomes a matter of internal Israeli policy, to be determined by the political process in Israel. If so, what can the effect of a rally in New York, USA be? Are the Orthodox trying to influence US pressure on Israel? Why should the government of Israel listen to New York Orthodox at all?
As far as the internal politics of Israel, many of the people on this thread see Israel as the racist aggressor in the Middle East, pressuring the US to cause chaos and destruction in the area.
I’m an American Firster, but I do support the existence of Israel. I think it’s the responsibility of Israel, and not the US to maintain the existence of Israel. I fully support the commenter who wanted to do away with dual ciizenship. A citizen can have only one primary loyalty. This extends to dual citizenship with Israel, Mexico, Iran, or Hungary (though I have much sympathy with Hungarian citizens).
The government of Israel wants the character of Israel to be Jewish (although Rabbi Shapiro would argue, not TOO Jewish. That’s an internal Israeli affair, on which I wish to have no influence. In my opinion, any state that wishes to maintain its existence will have to pursue policies that could be termed as racist. Like, the US totally excluding Muslims from further immigration. Racist perhaps, and totally necessary. But, the US should not become involved in the internal affairs of other countries. And yes, that means stopping US foreign aid to Israel.
As far as the 2003 attack on Iraq being a result of Jewish dual loyalists: it’s possible. But, if so, let me point out that whatever influence the Jewish neocons had on the Iraqi attack was the stupidest ever. In fact, Jewish popular opinion tends, in my opinion, to be extremely stupid and self-destructive. In 2003, there were at least two states in the Middle East very hostile to Israel: Iraq and Iran. Who was the biggest enemy of Iran: Iraq. So, was taking out Iraq as a country helpful to Israel? Now, Iran is no longer facing Iraq, which had the population, and is only facing Saudi Arabia, which has only money and mercenaries. Was Israel a net beneficiary? So, if the neocons were acting out of Israel’s interest and not the US’s, they were being extremely stupid. I do consider neocons to be stupid, but that’s the point.
Looking at Jewish US popular opinion, Jews voted 70% for Obama and almost the same proportion for Hillary in 2016. Is it in the interest of US Jews to bring in more Muslims? More Muslims in Sweden and France have made parts of those countries unbearable for the Jews, who favored the open border policies. If you look on the websites of Jewish organizations in the US, you’ll see almost universal horror at the very mild travel exclusions of the Trump Presidency. Whatever Jewish influence there is, runs directly counter to the real interests of Jewish US citizens.
Someone mentioned that Israel itself is instituting ideological tests for aliya, or Jewish immigration to Israel. I think this is a sensible policy for Israel. If Israel wishes to maintain its character, the immigrants should reflect the ideological and cultural identity of the current population. But, I wish to make that an internal policy of Israel through, at a minimum, ceasing foreign aid to Israel and doing away with dual citizenship.
Peace.
For me, the biggest "things" to worry about are two (2).
One is the crooked elite secular (non-Orthodox) American Jews who staunchly support perpetual US wars for the creation of Greater Israel.
My (close) # 2 concern is the extremely (!) crooked Russian-Jewish oligarchs who lay in wait for their shot to replace President Vladimir Putin.
THANKS.
As Russian and Ukrainian anti-Semites are constantly pointing out, Putin gets along quite well some Jewish oligarchs. He doesn’t get along so well with others. The same can be said for the non-Jewish ones.
any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
"The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. "
But presumably Haaretz's writer was just another unhinged bigot, in your view.
This comment was meant in reply.
After looking into the matter, I see that, even though many past presidents and now Donald Trump have promised to defend Israel if attacked and to treat Israel as any other American ally, America has no formal defense treaty with Israel. It would seem that a president who guarantees the security of another nation without first negotiating a formal treaty that is ratified by the Senate is acting unconstitutionally and should be threatened with impeachment if he persists in the matter.
We don't need no stinking treaty. Treaties are frequently discarded or broken.
Not so with unshakeable bonds between kindred peoples.
In the lowest point in American history, congress dishonored the president, and grovelingly gave Netanyahu 29 standing ovations.
Shame Shame Shame!
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. The idea "no formal defense treaty with Israel" is meaningless - it is a flat out lie like Israel and nukes.
Yes - you Jews are running things – but right into the ground. What craziness and chaos that is going on in today’s American culture is on YOU JEWS – you broke it - you own it!
Think Peace --- Art
I am a Christian and therefor I am hopeful.
No more philosophical, Arts? What happen? Did’ja respond to the altar call this last Sunday and get right with Jesus?
The top brass of the U.S. military is one of the prime factors behind confrontation with not only Iran, but Russia (even more dangerously). These guys have been prepping for the Big One since their days at West Point. And as anti-Semites love pointing out, the number of Jews in the military (and especially the top ranks) is negligible.
Why is the Trump administration and Congress about to sell heavy weaponry to the junta in Ukraine, that has ties to anti-Semitic nationalists? Who is the more anti-Jewish party in that conflict, Ukraine or Russia? Putin has good relations with Israel and with Jewish (and non-Jewish) Russian oligarchs. If the Jews back Ukraine over Russia, they must be stupid. How is it then that they have so much influence?This (unlike "America's Jews are Driving America's Wars") isn't ipso facto anti-Semitic, but it's a gross exaggeration. The main "drivers" of that war were Cheney and Rumsfeld, neither of whom were Jewish.
This (unlike “America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars”) isn’t ipso facto anti-Semitic, but it’s a gross exaggeration. The main “drivers” of that war were Cheney and Rumsfeld, neither of whom were Jewish.
Yes – the Gentiles, Cheney and Rumsfeld, were signatories to the Zionist Jew neocon screed the PNAC (Project for a New American Century). Why is a mystery to me.
Again, the Jews supplied the political and media muscle to do Iraq and Afghanistan. YOU Jews own 9/11 and the Iraq war.
Think Peace — Art
America has no formal defense treaty with Israel
We don’t need no stinking treaty. Treaties are frequently discarded or broken.
Not so with unshakeable bonds between kindred peoples.
Speaking of the Protocols, on another thread you claimed to have ordered the book from Amazon, and promised to report on your thoughts when you had read it. Did you?
By way of a reminder: http://www.unz.com/article/international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/#comment-1890518
I have it in my possession, read about a third, with the intervening showers, and can report that a merry read it isn't. More on it, once I complete the task.
actually it’s rather anti-Semitic for you to even ask that question.
of course it’s only anti-Semitism!
why else would someone criticize serial wars for Israel, torture and genocide?!
I can’t believe you would even suggest something so anti-Semitic as if anyone who criticizes some of the things some Jews do are motivated by anything other than an evil and irrational hatred of all Jews simply because they’re Jews
we may have to send you back to the ADL re-education center for expressing such egregious sentiments
I do not mean to say that all U.S. wars were the fruit of clear-headed thinking, indeed some weren't, but I am yet to be presented with a roster of such, waged by other great powers, never in question, never in fault nor folly.Quite so in the case of this particular piece. And I meant more the commentaries which inevitably call as home, Giraldi's corner.
Further, I must say the lines demarcating his various articles do get blurred in my view, each vying to outdo the previous in its single-minded reviling of a certain group. In those articles, should you feel disposed to search, you will find that infernal idea of which I speak.
Randal, simplicity tends to produce the correct answers. One might disagree with American policy; Neocon policy; or those of Zionism; or those of the Mafia. Let's not call them Jewish or Italian conspiracies, shall we?
He’s an educated man. He knows that Jews have been accused of disloyalty to the state a hundred years before Israel even existed; even before emancipation in Europe. Why do you have to use inflammatory language like that? Why not just call them war mongers or extremist hawks? It’s not like if the Jews dropped out they wouldn’t be replaced by non-Jews.
In fact, there are Orthodox who firmly support the state of Israel, including Orthodox who have immigrated to Israel.
One comment that Rabbi Shapiro made was that the Israeli military didn't need or want the Orthodox Yeshiva students. If true, the question or drafting Yeshiva students becomes a matter of internal Israeli policy, to be determined by the political process in Israel. If so, what can the effect of a rally in New York, USA be? Are the Orthodox trying to influence US pressure on Israel? Why should the government of Israel listen to New York Orthodox at all?
As far as the internal politics of Israel, many of the people on this thread see Israel as the racist aggressor in the Middle East, pressuring the US to cause chaos and destruction in the area.
I'm an American Firster, but I do support the existence of Israel. I think it's the responsibility of Israel, and not the US to maintain the existence of Israel. I fully support the commenter who wanted to do away with dual ciizenship. A citizen can have only one primary loyalty. This extends to dual citizenship with Israel, Mexico, Iran, or Hungary (though I have much sympathy with Hungarian citizens).
The government of Israel wants the character of Israel to be Jewish (although Rabbi Shapiro would argue, not TOO Jewish. That's an internal Israeli affair, on which I wish to have no influence. In my opinion, any state that wishes to maintain its existence will have to pursue policies that could be termed as racist. Like, the US totally excluding Muslims from further immigration. Racist perhaps, and totally necessary. But, the US should not become involved in the internal affairs of other countries. And yes, that means stopping US foreign aid to Israel.
As far as the 2003 attack on Iraq being a result of Jewish dual loyalists: it's possible. But, if so, let me point out that whatever influence the Jewish neocons had on the Iraqi attack was the stupidest ever. In fact, Jewish popular opinion tends, in my opinion, to be extremely stupid and self-destructive. In 2003, there were at least two states in the Middle East very hostile to Israel: Iraq and Iran. Who was the biggest enemy of Iran: Iraq. So, was taking out Iraq as a country helpful to Israel? Now, Iran is no longer facing Iraq, which had the population, and is only facing Saudi Arabia, which has only money and mercenaries. Was Israel a net beneficiary? So, if the neocons were acting out of Israel's interest and not the US's, they were being extremely stupid. I do consider neocons to be stupid, but that's the point.
Looking at Jewish US popular opinion, Jews voted 70% for Obama and almost the same proportion for Hillary in 2016. Is it in the interest of US Jews to bring in more Muslims? More Muslims in Sweden and France have made parts of those countries unbearable for the Jews, who favored the open border policies. If you look on the websites of Jewish organizations in the US, you'll see almost universal horror at the very mild travel exclusions of the Trump Presidency. Whatever Jewish influence there is, runs directly counter to the real interests of Jewish US citizens.
Someone mentioned that Israel itself is instituting ideological tests for aliya, or Jewish immigration to Israel. I think this is a sensible policy for Israel. If Israel wishes to maintain its character, the immigrants should reflect the ideological and cultural identity of the current population. But, I wish to make that an internal policy of Israel through, at a minimum, ceasing foreign aid to Israel and doing away with dual citizenship.
Hey RonaldB,
This is not racist. Islam is not a race – it is a religion. To exclude Muslims would be to exclude whites (like Bosnians) as well as Blacks (like Senegalese).
Agreed, I wouldn’t hire them to be janitors, they seem inept at everything (especially foreseeing the results of their actions) except at making messes other people have to clean up.
Peace.
As much as I admire Mr. Giraldi, when he mentioned an elderly man at the beginning of his article it shows the irony of the situation that I will expand upon. That Mr. Giraldi has, with the passing of time, become more bold in exposing ‘The Lobby’ and speaking the truth is great but it seems that you have to be of a certain age to feel less threatened by the pernicious tentacles of the ‘Cabal’. Younger people have (need) to take up the baton.
Another Irony is that most American Nationalists have something in common with some far left groups in their anti Zionist ideology although I thing that the left groups could be more easily bought off.
Expose Israel and Zionism NOW!!!
Let’s be honest, that promise to defend Israel is coerced out of the American political system.
In the lowest point in American history, congress dishonored the president, and grovelingly gave Netanyahu 29 standing ovations.
Shame Shame Shame!
Think Peace — Art
p.s. The idea “no formal defense treaty with Israel” is meaningless – it is a flat out lie like Israel and nukes.
of course it's only anti-Semitism!
why else would someone criticize serial wars for Israel, torture and genocide?!
I can't believe you would even suggest something so anti-Semitic as if anyone who criticizes some of the things some Jews do are motivated by anything other than an evil and irrational hatred of all Jews simply because they're Jews
we may have to send you back to the ADL re-education center for expressing such egregious sentiments
Why don’t you and Arts throw in together, Hell, see if you can get the woodchuck to help, and come up with a coherent comment?
Dick Cheney
Someone explain to me how that happened ?????
the most contemptible Zionists are always the goyim.
from George Will to Tony Blair, Paul Ryan to Marco Rubio, they’re feces-eaters and they’ll do *anything* for their bag of thirty shekels – (access to little boys from war-torn regions for Lindsey Graham, television time for John McCain, political power for Paul Ryan)
many of the Jewish neocons at least have some shred of dignity, as their treachery is at least intended to benefit their own tribe. But the goyim who serve Israel are lower than snail slime on the scale of abased human depravities. Marco would eat the **** literally out of Sheldon Adelson’s *** for a chance to be potus. Same for Jeb and all the other goyim feces feasters.
it is because guys like Paul Ryan are utterly without a shred of human integrity or dignity that they’ve been anointed to serve the tribe.
Jonathan, is that you?
Yup, and it precedes even that!
Can't really put my finger on it, but reminds me of blaming tobacco companies executives/marketing/sales people for smoking induced health issues.
Or, blaming food companies executives/marketing/sales people for being overweight.
Feels......disingenuous.
Jews rule media. Media is this/that.
Fine....don't read/buy/watch/enjoy it.
Or, more likely....I do like that, and I do know it's bad, but, I also do have that "Jews did it". No blame on myself. None.
US itself was created by constant expansion, mostly by force of arms. Since its creation. Since The War of 1812.
Blaming Jews for all that is just......not correct.
Nobody disputes they are what they are.
Cynic would say they are just better in that then other competitors in the same game.
But, blaming post Cold War US foreign policy just on Jews is ...wrong.
There is their portion of blame, of course.
But, there is a lot to blame other players too.
I guess that properly appointing the blame on all the players would be good.
Maybe starting with some of core US values wouldn't be a bad idea?
blaming post Cold War US foreign policy just on Jews is …wrong.
Do you mean incorrect, or do you mean wrong?
If we disregard a bit of "semantic play" and undercurrent of, say, certain attitude in the question, it's legit.
So, it is incorrect.
Wrong (I guess in moral sense) doesn't apply in geopolitics.
As I've been saying, the very history of United States (all of the Big Guys in history of humankind, that is) is constant GROWTH. The thing, if successful, simply grows.
First attempt Canada.
Then towards Mexico.
Then, having some "empty" space within, West.
Hawaii.
Then Cuba....Philippines....and the rest till today.
Constant.........growth.
It's easy to even mark it: just follow the builds of US military bases.
Collapse of Soviet Union simply gave the same idea just a new, fresh impetus.
So, blaming Jews for Canada 1812 is just ridiculous.
And from then on it's simply the same game.
I just believe that a good regional war is necessity for US national interest.
Not only "elites", but everyone in US (and loyal satellites and vassals).
That's how it's been since US got conceived.
I mean, everyone except Trump supporters want war.
And what do Trump supporters want: make America great.....again.
If I got all that right, they want, what, US from late 50's?
Wasn't that a direct result from being a winner, without internal destruction, of WW2?
So......
It must be a war, IMHO, somewhere, to keep the same system going on.
Now, if we don't want the war, well, really, we'd want to change the system.
That's in another universe, at the moment.
from George Will to Tony Blair, Paul Ryan to Marco Rubio, they're feces-eaters and they'll do *anything* for their bag of thirty shekels - (access to little boys from war-torn regions for Lindsey Graham, television time for John McCain, political power for Paul Ryan)
many of the Jewish neocons at least have some shred of dignity, as their treachery is at least intended to benefit their own tribe. But the goyim who serve Israel are lower than snail slime on the scale of abased human depravities. Marco would eat the **** literally out of Sheldon Adelson's *** for a chance to be potus. Same for Jeb and all the other goyim feces feasters.
it is because guys like Paul Ryan are utterly without a shred of human integrity or dignity that they've been anointed to serve the tribe.
they’re feces-eaters
Jonathan, is that you?
from what I understand, the best kapos in the camps were homosexuals. And they'd do anything to be allowed certain privileges. It was well known that they were enamored of their handsome, tall, blonde Nazi captors, and were in no small measure willing to abase themselves in every way possible to endear themselves to the guards and Kommandant.
The services they offered went from ratting out their fellow Jews to the guards- to offering lewd favors for those guards who'd deign to accept them. So yes, the vulgar description at the top of this post is on occasion apropos, and I can't help but see Paul Ryan as one of these modern day kapos, willing to do anything, no matter how abased, to please his masters. It's just that now the roles are somewhat reversed, and Sheldon Adelson is playing the part of Nazi Kommandant, and Paul Ryan is the homosexual kapo willing and eager to perform depraved favors to earn Sheldon's approval, while betraying his own people for a few privileges.
don't you agree that the parallels between Ryan (and Lindsey and McCain, etc..) and those homosexual kapos are too eerily analogous to ignore?
Precisely. And I rest my case.
By way of a reminder: http://www.unz.com/article/international-campaign-is-criminalizing-criticism-of-israel-as-antisemitism/#comment-1890518
Hi Erebus,
I have it in my possession, read about a third, with the intervening showers, and can report that a merry read it isn’t. More on it, once I complete the task.
http://www.resalat-news.com/fa/?code=251219A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
Hasbara BS. Iran has every reason to distrust the US and Israel. Israel wants chaos in the rest of the ME and the US is israels pawn. No amount of has area rubbish can change that.
David Horowitz is loathsome rubbish!
What’s wrong with being “antisemitic”?
Rather a normal reaction to the vile behavior of Jews.
The world is changing. We’re so on to you.
antisemitic:
any thought or person that a Jew doesn’t like
Israelis, and American Zionists and their lackeys, push for a war against Iran because they think they can win cheaply. This is what they thought about Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria. They think they can engineer this without fatal damage against both Israel and the AngloZionist Empire. Despite what McMaster and Mattis may say for political consumption and to keep their jobs, they know that as a military mission this is impossible for the US in 2017. Any preemptive strike will ignite a general war in the Mideast, with the real possibility of drawing in Russia and China, in a nuclear exchange. The former US and Israel will have no other allies. The fighting could easily lead to
the Israelis’ deploying the Samson Option – self-immolation; it is ringed with 100,000 Hezbollah rockets. The former US would confront an economic crisis it cannot print its way out of, and ignition of war will provide the impetus for the breakup both of the Zionist State – what radioactive remnant there is left – and the former US, by no means assured of
preventing major military and economic damage to the Heimat.
Hubris. Chosen. The Exceptional Nation. God and Karma are just. If they ignite a war, they will
get what they deserve; if they do not, they will also get what they deserve.
Why do literate people keep using this term that the Jews of the media have inflicted upon the discussion? This use of the word “Semite” or “Semitic” as a substitute for saying “Jewish” is just plain silly. The vast majority of the world’s Semites are Arabs, just as Arabic is by far the most important Semitic language. They use this euphemism, because as secular Jews they do not want to suggest they they are religious Jews.
I took the Israeli Ulpan program once in Jerusalem, the three-month intensive Hebrew language course. In that class there were around 20 adult immigrants to Israel, and of that group there were three of us who claimed to believe in God. Most of the class were Russian or Ukrainian immigrants, secular Jews who had lost their place in the Communist government, so they moved to Israel. Every day one of them would say “I don’t believe in God at all. Judaism is my race.” Then all the others would shake their heads in agreement. This is what being a secular Jew is all about: atheists who still think they are Jews on the basis of race.
In the middle of the first millennium AD there was a tribal chief in Central Asia who converted to Judaism, and he brought in Jewish scholars to teach his people. These Kazars became Jews, and these people with very very few Semitic, Middle Eastern genes make up the majority of the European, Ashkanazi Jews. It should be pretty obvious that these people have few ancestors indeed who can trace their families back to the Levant, and gene studies bear this out. So, calling these people Semites is just plain ridiculous; nor does it make sense to call someone an anti-Semite just because he denies that European secular Jews have a right to go take over land that has been occupied by Muslims and Christian Arabs for the last thousand years. This is, like so much else in our media world, is a scam enabled by gentile ignorance.
Many true Jews apparently would also agree and have warned about the frauds that use the Jewish narrative to further their own greedy, perverted causes.
I do wish real Jews would speak out against them more frequently and get more exposure.
The Christian god is a mega universal god seeking peace for all --- not a puny tiny, one tribe god – a god that exhibits himself in Israel, a nation of haters and terrorists.
Our Christian god is hopeful and merciful seeking peace for all of humanity. The Jew god favors one tribe. The Christian god is moving humanity to peace – the Jew god to division, hate, chaos and war.
The Jew god exhibits himself in Israel. He champions apartheid, summery killing, torture, detention without trial, squatting, gross unfair internal wars against defenseless people, and endless waring attacks on its neighbors. "By deception it makes war."
Clearly the pip squeak tribal Jew god is immoral and inferior.
Think Peace --- Art
Hey Genius,
“Summery” should be “summary”.
“Waring” should be “warring”.
Shalom,
Sherm
Do you mean incorrect, or do you mean wrong?
Actually, not that bad a question.
If we disregard a bit of “semantic play” and undercurrent of, say, certain attitude in the question, it’s legit.
So, it is incorrect.
Wrong (I guess in moral sense) doesn’t apply in geopolitics.
As I’ve been saying, the very history of United States (all of the Big Guys in history of humankind, that is) is constant GROWTH. The thing, if successful, simply grows.
First attempt Canada.
Then towards Mexico.
Then, having some “empty” space within, West.
Hawaii.
Then Cuba….Philippines….and the rest till today.
Constant………growth.
It’s easy to even mark it: just follow the builds of US military bases.
Collapse of Soviet Union simply gave the same idea just a new, fresh impetus.
So, blaming Jews for Canada 1812 is just ridiculous.
And from then on it’s simply the same game.
I just believe that a good regional war is necessity for US national interest.
Not only “elites”, but everyone in US (and loyal satellites and vassals).
That’s how it’s been since US got conceived.
I mean, everyone except Trump supporters want war.
And what do Trump supporters want: make America great…..again.
If I got all that right, they want, what, US from late 50′s?
Wasn’t that a direct result from being a winner, without internal destruction, of WW2?
So……
It must be a war, IMHO, somewhere, to keep the same system going on.
Now, if we don’t want the war, well, really, we’d want to change the system.
That’s in another universe, at the moment.
Elaboration please, I've misplaced my cryptoictionary.
any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
You’re a miserable specimen, twisted by hatred.
Anti Zionist Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
Http://www.truetorahjews.org
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro explains the reasons why Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Israeli army
http://www.truetorahjews.org/images/rabbishapirovideo.mp4
Maybe Mr Unz could include some 'true' Jews amoung his commentators.
There are also secular Jewish anti Zionists.
Thanks for sharing that video. So many in America today confuse Zionism with true Judaism.
any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
Guess what, tiny? We’re ready for you this time. Just try it. I dare you.
What an albino illiterate zionist stooge can do to civilized people like Persians? Iranian civilization is older than 7000 years with proven facts. YOU, the mass murderers, will be destroyed first, yet the Persians will be here to purge the ziofascits baby killers.
Notice the obliqueness of his statement. I asked him if he was in favor of it. No response. Ignoring me. I say he thinks it’s a great idea. You are correct. Iran cannot be destroyed. Their average IQ is 84, but they are a huge country. Only a couple of nukes can wipe them out. But the neocons won’t go there. They’ll try, but it won’t work.
any thought or person that a Jew doesn't like
I was defending Putin, though! Don’t I get some credit for that?
Peace.
Hey Talha: “Islam is not a race – it is a religion.” It is a Christian heresy, a false religion.
Yes – the Gentiles, Cheney and Rumsfeld, were signatories to the Zionist Jew neocon screed the PNAC (Project for a New American Century). Why is a mystery to me.
Again, the Jews supplied the political and media muscle to do Iraq and Afghanistan. YOU Jews own 9/11 and the Iraq war.
Think Peace --- Art
Many things are a mystery to you, undoubtedly. You must walk through life with a constant sense of wonder at your surroundings.
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business".
This even became known as "The Ledeen Doctrine"; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable "small crappy little country". If so, he is very badly mistaken.
A person who throws a smaller person against a wall is, at the very least, a bully, and may be arrested for assault and battery.
If you are spoiling for a fight, pick on someone your own size. Oh, well, that’s the goyim idea of a fair fight.
Do you recognize this? You should.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the first beast of Revelation 13, and its sidekick and loyal political puppet ruler, the second beast of Rev 13;11 (the “president” of the United States).
Stop taking loans, don't hire them, watch their TV/Films, friend them or listen to them.
It may seem hopeless but we are winning which is why they have turned to violence.
Too many people know now, the internet they thought would create a small world for globalism has exposed them. I recall 10 yrs ago when they ended comments on Yahoo msg boards due to exposing Jews. I was the last person in the Yahoo message boards, behind their curtain. It was funny all alone in there...:)
“..
It’s that simple CD, no need to endlessly analyze the jews. Simply un-plug from the Jewish pigsty.
“The lender always wields the whip-hand.”
YT voluntarily indentures himself with college loans and home mortgages.
There’s plenty of marginal property here in Philly that can be developed for petty cash…
Although there has to be a willingness to home school as well..
Unless you are actually college material and are studying for a STEM degree, college is a waste of money!
Opening paragraph of Chapter 1 of Stephen Sniegoski’s The Transparent Cabal:
They would care if their kids were drafted. Our excellent adventures in the middle east were fought by volunteers, so there is a disconnect.
“Surely Ledeen was being ironic or sarcastic.”
Decide for yourself –
this has gotten me so depressed and aggravated at the same time. I hoped Trump would not have become forced into more wars and killing (falling for false flags in Syria, etc.) by the Neocons and Neoliberals. But, I suppose he thought working with the Mafia in the City over the decades gave him some sort of experience with being coerced…we’ll never know how much he has been threatened, I guess. Sad. I am just beyond disgusted that these American Generals have also been bought and paid for to send innocent young people into the Middle East to kill & maim innocent civilians. Everything really is only about money ( for many people; not me)…it had been money and sex; now it is just money. Well, with anarchy, nihilism and chaos, everybody loses…particularly the wealthy…they’ll be the last to suffer…and will wish they could go fast. End all Wars…just End Wars – do it.
Thank you Mr. Giraldi for an excellent article. I think you are exhibiting a lot of courage by discussing these issues. It would be my hope that readers of this article would be encouraged to also bring attention to this taboo subject by writing comments on various sites and spreading the truth throughout the internet. My optimism is not high that we can save our country but I do think it is worth trying. Thank you again and keep the information coming.
You’re right. Before Gorsuch joined the Court only 3/8 were Jewish. Not a majority but still….
FAULT LINES W/ NIXON AND STRANAHAN — 9/19/17 — w/ Ex-CIA John Kiriakou
John comes on at 3:16, your story at 8:45
BTW, on Monday they did a great interview (2 segments, over half hour) with Bill Binney, much about the VIPS memo to Trump regarding the DNC leak (which I think you didn’t sign). Bill states, had there been an earlier hack, the NSA would have picked it up, so the VIPS memo not addressing that is irrelevant.
I’m quite sure Kristol’s friend that served is Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/militaristic-adelson-kristol/
I know!!! Can you believe it??!!
Ezra? Who was Abu Said Al-Khudri, and why did he say (that the Jews will say) that the Jews worship Uzair (Ezra), and who was this Ezra? (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.6)
Not quite, though they wish. They do weasel in whenever possible though.
Follow the corruption money making, there is where you find them.
Hey Wally,
The owmer of the stinky quotation you posted is Sam The Sham Shama… not me!
Retreat to my comment and you’ll see?
Otherwise your advice to “follow the corrupt money trail” can lead explorers to find out about the Bantustan Solution for American citizens who are opposed to the undercover Talmud golden rule which is to NEVER HELP THOSE WE GRANT ‘TOUGH LOVE’ TO BE FREE & ESCAPE FROM US.
Post scriptum: Originally, Friedrich Von Hugel said something like that. Uh, Hugel is with an umlaut “u.”
THANKS Wally!
What got the Jews kicked out of Israel two thousand years ago was their rejection of Jesus Christ as the Jewish Messiah. He then pronounced a judgment upon them; their Temple would be destroyed and they would be dispersed amongst the nations.
Co-Authors Reflect Ten years After Publishing Controversial Book,
'The Israel Lobby'
https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview-podcast/coauthors-reflect-ten-years-after-publishing-controversial-book-the-israel-lobby/912a4c83-8144-442e-99b2-93e6156f39f4
"The 2007 book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy argued that a loose coalition of interests, which supports Israel, lobbies the U.S. government to skew U.S. foreign policy to Israel’s favor. The authors also assert this reality damages, both America’s and Israel’s, long-term interests. “The Israel Lobby” ignited a firestorm of debate. Critics accused the authors of giving voice to historic anti-Semitic slurs. Supporters hailed the book as opening a door to needed dialogue on a taboo subject.
Ten years later, the book’s co-authors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, join Worldview to discuss the changes in Middle East dialogue in the decade since they wrote the book. Mearsheimer is professor of political science at the University of Chicago and authored numerous books including, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics. Walt is a professor of International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. He also authored the book, Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy."
Listened to the full 50 min podcast. The two professors clearly come across as two of the most virulent antisemites known in academia (not).
Thanks for recommendation.
The War Party-Panorama-BBC
Here is who led us into this mess. Meet the NEOCONS and what they want.
Since the occupying entity first destroyed Gaza in 2008-09, I learned all of this, and i have been posting it. The thing about, “dual allegiance of jews”, is this: each and every jew, born anywhere in the world, is an, “israeli”, so we don’t need to look for their passport to the lunatic-occupying entity. It is so without them applying. The only jews I truly trust, in full, would be those who disavow the occupying entity (and i mean they occupy Palestine as well as D.C., and every Western nation, and much of the Gulf, too…, and Japan, encroaching on China, etc..) Those people are few and hard to find. But, they are out there.
Excellent piece, of course, since I agree with all of it!
Peace.
Israel is administratively a democracy, but it defines itself by race/blood. Any other country that did so would not only receive no US support, but would be the target of sanctions, with many American Jews leading the charge.
The irony here is perhaps the greatest. The Jew blaming is almost Stormfront level while the commenters pound their translated Hebrew books and whinge that the Jews are conspiring against them. They are far more brainwashed than any communist AntiFa type. "None are so blind as those who refuse to see" and all that. Worshipping some random Jewish bastard who became a handyman or some random desert cave dwelling Jew with vivid hallucinations is exactly the same as the Jews' worship of a lunatic who talks to god from a mountaintop (or his LDS successor).
IF there's a Jew conspiracy it's a couple thousand years old at this point and half the planet is part of it.
Christianity is of course a historical offshoot of Judaism, but its central tenets have more in common with Islam than Judaism. (Ask which religion has a more favorable viewpoint of Christ.) Evangelical prostration for modern Israel is sickening and stupid, but fortunately not all Christians are that dense.
Be careful what you wish for. A storm front is heading your way.
The Jewish system indicted by the documentary record by Edmondson, Robert Edward, b. 1872. -https://archive.org/details/TheJewishSystemIndictedByTheDocumentaryRecord
Bernie argued FOR a No-Fly zone in Syria, still pushes the “brutal dictator Assad kills his own people” and “Russia invaded Crimea” memes., and loves his F-35 ‘Deefence Plant’ in VT. And what makes you think Bernie wouldn’t have morphed into Deep State Puppet if he’d been elected, just like all the others? There’s no telling what he might have done under R2P rubric.
For extensive rants about slippery shill Sanders, see videos of Sane Progressive (if you can stand it).
"Summery" should be "summary".
"Waring" should be "warring".
Shalom,
Sherm
1978 Tel Aviv, All-city Spelling Bee Champion
Jews were accused of disloyalty because in many cases they were actually disloyal– they made excellent spies in the great conflict between Islam and Christendom, and before that between Persia and Rome.
“Why Israel Should Not Exist!”
No dual citizen should be allowed to serve in any official capacity at the federal, state, or local level in these United States of America.
In December, 1956 — just six months before his untimely death at age 48 — Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy gave a speech “George Washington’s Surrender” in which he recounted British Gen. Cornwallis’s warning to Gen. Washington, that, despite its victory at Yorktown, the United States would become the British Crown’s poodle on the leash of Judaized Christianity.
https://truthinourtimebackup.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/senator-joseph-mccarthy-speech-george-washingtons-surrender/
Can I call it a hatchet job?
Shouldn’t anti-Semites (Jewish and gentile alike) have to recuse themselves from commenting on Jews?
I guess the only people who should be commenting on Jews are those who have not formulated an opinion... (shrug)
It depends; are there conflicts of interest necessarily involved?
We have to put these “Jews” someplace. Today’s Jews are not related to the Jews of Jesus’ time. It’s the RCC and Zioevangizers who give them their status. The priesthood ended when the temple was destroyed. They want to rebuild the temple, but that will never happen. Julian the Apostate tried that. What would happen today is another earthquake. If these “Jews” want to practice the Old Testament ways let them and we must send the Jews in the West to Israel.
I know the Bible said they were to be disbursed but those original Jews are gone. Today’s “Judaism” is a mishmash of the Kabbala and the Talmud. Nothing to do with the Old Testament. Let these strange people do their own thing.
For extensive rants about slippery shill Sanders, see videos of Sane Progressive (if you can stand it).
He opposed a no-fly zone. I don’t where you’re getting this from.
".... our fight is to destroy ISIS first, and to get rid of Assad second." Bernie Sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaj7H_o11tw&app=desktop
Excellent piece, of course, since I agree with all of it!
Peace.
Annebeck 58: “The only jooie I truly trust in full……….” Correct answer: “a dead jooie” and even then one of the buggers rose from the grave to cause more trouble for 2000 years.
Since we are on the subject of Jews, here are some very informative links:
https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com
https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2016/04/08/the-jewish-roots-of-takfiri-culture/
https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/isil-helps-israel-conceal-its-historical-origin/
https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/hebrew-bible-plagiarized-mythology-and-defaced-monotheism/
https://ashraf62.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/jewish-roots-of-islams-extremism/
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U8VK8JE?*Version*=1&*entries*=0
http://www.rense.com/general96/CNNmemwar.html
https://ibb.co/jxoD1a
Please use an analytical, inquiring, open-minded approach. The information contained may upset those with willfully blind religious beliefs and years of conditioned programming. Self-courage and a desire for REAL knowledge leads to freedom.
We don't need no stinking treaty. Treaties are frequently discarded or broken.
Not so with unshakeable bonds between kindred peoples.
Which Israelis and Americans are emphatically (and obviously) not.
As the Petro-Dollar dies, so shall the USSA, the Rothschild Talmudic created state of Israel, and the German Monarchy of UK.
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/news/middle-east/united-states-establishes-first-permanent-military-base-israel/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=TheEvent2014&utm_content=United%20States%20Establishes%20First%20Permanent%20Military%20Base%20in%20Israel#
Join the 3DS movement.
Deconstruct, Defund, Dismantle the criminal state of Israel.
The irony here is perhaps the greatest. The Jew blaming is almost Stormfront level while the commenters pound their translated Hebrew books and whinge that the Jews are conspiring against them. They are far more brainwashed than any communist AntiFa type. "None are so blind as those who refuse to see" and all that. Worshipping some random Jewish bastard who became a handyman or some random desert cave dwelling Jew with vivid hallucinations is exactly the same as the Jews' worship of a lunatic who talks to god from a mountaintop (or his LDS successor).
IF there's a Jew conspiracy it's a couple thousand years old at this point and half the planet is part of it.
Christian Zionism did not start until the late 19th century publication of the Scofield bible.
Protestantism has always had a heretical standpoint on the jews.
Catholic and Orthodox are NOT Zionist.
In fact, please take a read of the Civilta Cattolica article I posted above and you will see that the church is intimately connected to resusting jewish power, as jewish power leads eventually to the rise of the antichrist.
Also, search for John Chrysostom ‘Against the Jews’ to understand how Christianity and the Jews are absolutely opposites.
Christian Zionism will likely morph into the religion of the antichrist, becoming THE most deadly heresy.
http://originsofman.angelfire.com/pdf/jqseg2.pdf
Hey, even better! Thanks for the link…. that shows Bernie advocating US take direct action for regime change of a sovereign nation. (And on the no-fly zone, I’m pretty sure that’s either a flip or a flop.)
“…. our fight is to destroy ISIS first, and to get rid of Assad second.” Bernie Sanders
As for Sanders advocating the removal of Assad through "negotiated settlement", yes, he has advocated this, but everyone knows that he would have no power to do this unless military force was used, which Sanders opposes. So it's meaningless boilerplate. Besides, we're not talking about whether Sanders is great on foreign policy (I agree he isn't), we're talking about whether he would have been better than Trump. I think it's clear he would be. Trump has not only, at times, talked about removing Assad, he's actually attacked Assad with military force 6 times so far, without even Congressional approval. Sanders is pretty bad on foreign policy, but it would be hard for him to be worse than Trump.
I don’t believe that asinine comment by a dopey U.S. general compares to the brutal, horrific carnage that British generals inflicted on brave Australian men by using them as cannon fodder during first half of the 20th century. And you are 100% correct about U.S. reliability, just look at the current Ukrainian fiasco (started by a U.S. 1994 agreement), Muammar Khaddafi, Hosni Mubarek, & Sirik Matak (which is the saddest) among countless others. I think it may have been Bernard Lewis that said, “The U.S. is harmless as an enemy, but treacherous as a friend.” https://www.steynonline.com/6417/harmless-as-an-enemy-treacherous-as-a-friend
If you rely on the impression given by Peter Weir's ?(David Williamson's) film "Gallipoli" that it was an English officer giving the fatal order for the worst suicidal attack then you have been, like many of us, taken in by the voìce - which was not untypical of the kiñd of officer class Australian who actually gave the order. More generally, Australians and other Dominion troops tended to be physically bigger and fitter than the English and often from a rural background of familiarity with guns and observing terrain. They weren't so much used as cannon fodder (none on the dreadful first day of the Somme I think) as chosen for the tough battles necause they were good - and all volunteers. Indeed Australia had largely managed to get its troops in France out of the clutches of inadequate professional British generals by forming a corps under Gen. John Monash whom Lloyd George wrote up in his memoirs as the general who should have become British Commander-in-Chief in 1919. (My first boss, snorted at this when I quoted it though he had known and enormously admired Monash - a quote " any - presumably plaintiff's - solicitor who hadn't - pre WW1 - retained Monash as expert [engineering] witness was prima facie guilty of negligence". Monash was the son of Prussian Jewish immigrants who went to Scotch College and built up a big civil engineering business while advancing as part time soldier. My said first boss was quite capable of making generalisations about Jews which weren't entirely favourable but for honourable character I think he would have put Monash and Lloyd George at opposite poles, which explaìned the snort).
Having just read upon Ledeen I was surprised by your suggestion of a connection with Chile and Allende. So I did the obvious and searched for “Ledeen and “Allende”. As I thought no evidence that Ledeen had anything to do with Allende’s downfall. So why do you suggest a connection?
It seems that it is Jonah Goldberg’s recollection of a speech by Ledeen and the description “Ledeen Doctrine” is described in the same Ledeen Wikipedia article as “tongue in cheek”. Ledeen showing off I would infer from the rather unflattering picture of whom that the article, as well ss others, conveys. A bit like some of Trump’s “locker room” talk.
Well maybe braggart and blowhard if not chickenhawk but see my reply to Tom Welsh #301 (as at present numbered). Michael Ledeen should not be influential with grown up policy makers.
In December, 1956 -- just six months before his untimely death at age 48 -- Sen. Joseph R. McCarthy gave a speech "George Washington's Surrender" in which he recounted British Gen. Cornwallis's warning to Gen. Washington, that, despite its victory at Yorktown, the United States would become the British Crown's poodle on the leash of Judaized Christianity.
https://truthinourtimebackup.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/senator-joseph-mccarthy-speech-george-washingtons-surrender/
Poor Joe McCarthy — may his brave soul rest in peace — can’t get an inch of column space at Unz.com.
Can I call it a hatchet job?
Thanks. I shall finish listening. But not for the specific quote with its context. See my #301 reply to Tom Welsh.
Now 3 out of 9 and, just writing on that which I know, I don’t see why you would regard Stephen Breyer’s Jewish ancestry as significant other than perhaps for the genes which equip him to be a good lawyer. After all he has long been married to a member of the Anglo-Irish aristocracy and his avocations include writing on Proust.
He says that they are driving, not that every passenger in the bus is a Jew. Maybe he meant some American Jews. Aren't some American Jews well known peaceniks?
This is a fallacy, same as the furore over Pakistani men -> grooming gangs. The left is claiming that the phrase implies ‘all’ [collective punishment is not allowed (collective guilt is though)]. But that is incorrect. If one wants to make the point that all am-jews are driving am-wars then one would have to explicitly state that, otherwise the default meaning is ‘some’. Tell me I’m wrong, but that’s how I learned the dear old lingo.
This can be hard to sort out. Are we talking about disproportion with regard to totals so that the stereotype has some validity? Are American Jews disproportionately extreme and belligerent war hawks? Does that disproportion exceed that of my peeps?
It has to be considered in context and the context here, according to PG, is that American Jews who have affection for Israel should have no standing on issues related to Israel. American policy toward Cuba has been driven by the Cuban-American community since the 1960’s. Most Cuban-Americans have affection for Cuba. Should Cuban-Americans recuse themselves on issues concerning Cuba? Do American blacks need to recuse themselves on matters concerning Africa? Do Hawaiians need to recuse themselves on issues related to Polynesia and Japan?
I notice those people who claim that whites are evil incarnate and the cause of all wickedness in the world. Shouldn’t they have to say “some whites”?
Hey Talha, if you please,
Ezra? Who was Abu Said Al-Khudri, and why did he say (that the Jews will say) that the Jews worship Uzair (Ezra), and who was this Ezra? (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.6)
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (ra) was a Companion (ra) of the Prophet (pbuh). The hadith you are referring to is basically a reiteration of a verse of Qur'an that denounces some Jews for claiming "Uzayr" is the son of God. There honestly aren't a whole lot of details in the authentic sources and I have read various explanations by the scholars. The one that makes the most sense to me is that there was a (now-extinct) heretical group living among the Jews in the Hijaz that had developed due to isolation from major Jewish learning centers and being surrounded by pagans - only God knows, barring any discovery of major new evidence on the matter.
Probably the most comprehensive write-up (at least in English) that I have come across is the one from Prof. Jonathan Brown:
http://almadinainstitute.org/blog/the-quran-the-jews-and-ezra-as-the-son-of-god/
As far as Ezra (assuming this "Uzayr" in the Qur'an is referring to him), he was a major Jewish priest in the time after the Babylonian Exile:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ezra-the-scribe
Peace.
Think of my mention of Rothschild in “Rothschilds’ Economist” as a metonym for mega-Jews. A surprising number of very wealthy Europeans who are not halachically Jewish identity as Jews amongst themselves. That would include Lord Rothschild, whose mother was a Guiness.
On your reasoning we would be expected to infer that the Cadburys and Agnellis identified as Jews. Why do you utter such crap?
I have seen Breitbart described as a psyops operation using Cass Sunstein’s cognitive infiltration method. It infiltrated the alternative media in order to neutralize it, by injecting stale old establishment talking points (such as that Iran poses an “existential threat” to Israel) under right cover. Breitbart News, posing as part of the alt-Right, has thus repolarized audiences that were increasingly seeing through the bipartisan control that corporate-financial special interests hold over Western society. The frequent reference to Breitbart as alt-Right by the mainstream media closes the circle of deception: the MSM audience is left in no doubt that Breitbart is beyond the pale and can be safely ignored, while Breitbart’s immense crowd of dupes, reassured that they form part of a breakaway movement, remain trapped in their silo.
Mearsheimer and Walt already publicised their book in 2007.
As Karin Kwiatskovsky says about jews ‘cowards, who let others fight their wars’.
Few people can see that already WWII was a jewish war, Bernard Baruch, Frankfurter and Brandeis the main organisers.
Bruce Allen Murphy, ‘The Brandeis/Frankfurter Connection, The Secret Political Activities of Two Supreme Court Justices’, New York, 1983
But FDR of course was quite willing to wage war too.
That he was no puppet he made clear in his last speech, when he said ‘that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters of rabbi’s’.
He promised Saud reduction of jewish immigration in Palestine.
Few people know that he died in suspicious circumstances shortly thereafter, or that what he said was not recorded in the official rccord.
See Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)
Wouldn’t you just love to take that smirk off Kristol’s face. With a Louisville slugger!
Your smokescreen notwithstanding, we’re speaking of representation on the Court out of all proportion to their percentages in the population, no? Fair is fair. This is the body that’s been real BIG on apportioned Affirmative Action, upholding EEOC regs, ethnic preference hiring, you name it. In terms of hiring, Blacks are a new Master Race. But I don’t see representative proportion on the Supreme Court. Proportionate to their numbers in the population there should be a few Jewish legal interns at most..
Good for the goose. This is what media, academia and the political classes ruled at the tip-top by folks of Jewish persuasion. Sorry, but I’ll buy in when Palestinians have hiring preference in the Israeli government and economy. Oh, sorry, they can’t even get in. I don’t know why they don’t take advantage of the pools of cheap labor from the West Bank, Gaza and so on? If it’s good for us, why not them? They too create refugees..
What smokescreen? And are you aware that you appear to be complaining that st least 6 non-Jewish justices have been too weak in character or intellect to resist the persuasion of a maximum of 3 Jewish justces? Are you really that stupid?
Moreover you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the court hss long had on it 6 Catholic and 3 Jewish Justices, but no Protestants, in a country gounded by Protestants and still substsntially Pròtestant. Nothing to say?
Commenting at all makes you suspect. It is a matter of common sense that people have their own interests which may be inimical to those of others. Ergo when these conflict, admit it for public digestion. That is all that may be necessary just now.
Bring it
Must-see documentary by highly credible Media Education Foundation:
Occupation of the American Mind–Israeli PR war inside U.S.:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47823.htm
The Occupation of the American Mind (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crY9qMIxznA
(Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
(Part 3) - [I think this really is Part 3, but with some commentary]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwGGmFy96w
It has to be admitted, “Organized Jewry”, archaic as it sounds, probably would have been a better choice of words than “America’s Jews”. Not that the two are completely unrelated by any means, but the relationship is separable.
they made excellent spies in the great conflict
You forgot the modern era and their good work for the Bolsheviks.
This is a fallacy… Tell me I’m wrong, but that’s how I learned the dear old lingo.
This can be hard to sort out. Are we talking about disproportion with regard to totals so that the stereotype has some validity? Are American Jews disproportionately extreme and belligerent war hawks? Does that disproportion exceed that of my peeps?
It has to be considered in context and the context here, according to PG, is that American Jews who have affection for Israel should have no standing on issues related to Israel. American policy toward Cuba has been driven by the Cuban-American community since the 1960’s. Most Cuban-Americans have affection for Cuba. Should Cuban-Americans recuse themselves on issues concerning Cuba? Do American blacks need to recuse themselves on matters concerning Africa? Do Hawaiians need to recuse themselves on issues related to Polynesia and Japan?
I notice those people who claim that whites are evil incarnate and the cause of all wickedness in the world. Shouldn’t they have to say “some whites”?
Good for the goose. This is what media, academia and the political classes ruled at the tip-top by folks of Jewish persuasion. Sorry, but I'll buy in when Palestinians have hiring preference in the Israeli government and economy. Oh, sorry, they can't even get in. I don't know why they don't take advantage of the pools of cheap labor from the West Bank, Gaza and so on? If it's good for us, why not them? They too create refugees..
“Your smokescreen notwithstanding”!!! When a pathetic loser rèveals himself as the ignoramus he is I would be inclined to go easy but your throwing in totally unjustified abuse at the outset relieves me me from giving effect to any pity.
What smokescreen? And are you aware that you appear to be complaining that st least 6 non-Jewish justices have been too weak in character or intellect to resist the persuasion of a maximum of 3 Jewish justces? Are you really that stupid?
Moreover you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the court hss long had on it 6 Catholic and 3 Jewish Justices, but no Protestants, in a country gounded by Protestants and still substsntially Pròtestant. Nothing to say?
" Disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination"
But of course when the civil service turned 70 percent instead of 12 percent black, that wasn't clear and present evidence of discrimination.
No. Eastern European Ashkenazi Jews (97%), and Sephardic Middle Eastern Jews (3%), are not genetically “White” and say so themselves.
Firstly, I completely agree with Giraldi’s analysis on everything. Secondly, Priss, why you would post Michael J. Knowles’ commentary of a Hollywood movie? Boycott Hollywood! Knowles works with Ben Shapiro at The Daily Wire. Shapiro is a big-time Neocon and is a “one issue” guy. That makes Knowles part of the controlled-media dialectic. Knowles mocks Palestinians on his Twitter account but at the same time invokes the Blessed Sacrament and Saint Peter in this specific YouTube video. Catholics should find Knowles as offensive as Colbert considering they both support Israel’s terrorism and ethnic cleansing. http://thedialog.org/gazas-christians-work-together-to-stay-safe/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11771952/Two-Israelis-charged-in-arson-attack-on-Church-of-Loaves-and-Fishes.html
Transformational Marxism, aka Cultural Marxism, common called Political Correctness, the former Soviets referred to it as “shaming” was “invented” at the Frankfort School by Jews in the 1930′s..
As Karin Kwiatskovsky says about jews 'cowards, who let others fight their wars'.
Few people can see that already WWII was a jewish war, Bernard Baruch, Frankfurter and Brandeis the main organisers.
Bruce Allen Murphy, ‘The Brandeis/Frankfurter Connection, The Secret Political Activities of Two Supreme Court Justices’, New York, 1983
But FDR of course was quite willing to wage war too.
That he was no puppet he made clear in his last speech, when he said 'that ten minutes with Saud had taught him more about zionism than hundreds of letters of rabbi's'.
He promised Saud reduction of jewish immigration in Palestine.
Few people know that he died in suspicious circumstances shortly thereafter, or that what he said was not recorded in the official rccord.
See Robert E. Sherwood, ‘Roosevelt und Hopkins’, 1950, Hamburg (Roosevelt and Hopkins, New York, 1948)
“World War 2 was a Jewish war”. That’s just barmy stuff. What did Jews have to do with the Anschluss or Hitler’s invasions of Czechoslovakia and Poland? What did they have to do with Japan’s attacks on China then SE Asia and Pearl Harbor?
As to the "death camps", there was no such thing. These "camps" were recreated by the soviets after WW2 as propaganda pieces. That famous holohoax (oops, I mean "holocaust ™") showplace, Auschwitz has a chimney not connected to anything, poor design of the so-called "gas chambers" which would have resulted in the deaths of the operators, and doors that swing "the wrong way" making it impossible to retrieve the bodies. In fact, claims about the efficiency of the crematoria (thousands of bodies totally cremated per day) cannot be duplicated today, even with today's technology.
As to the true nature of the "camps", they were work camps, complete with housing, dining facilities, medical and dental facilities, and a wealth of recreational facilities. Now, if these "camps" were "death camps", why all the ancillary facilities? It would have been easier to dispatch the enemies in place, rather than using Germany's energy-poor rail and other transportation systems.
It is long overdue for this greatest "hoax of the 20th century" to be thrust on to the "ash heap of history"...
Germany had the exact same problem (with exact same results) prior to Adolph Hitler temporarily solving the problem. The best documentation I’ve seen on the subject is: Jewish Domination of Weimer Germany, by Eckart Verlag (ISBN 978-1492991960)
How much is this MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM and American service people COSTING AMERICAN TAX PAYERS? Based upon Iran’s military offensive record, Iran has not attacked any group or country for over two hundred years! Iran has been attacked by the U.S. in the past 70 years. Moreover, the U.S. has done “regime change” in Iran by once again overthrowing an Iranian independent government and installing a “Shah” as the ruler. Trita Parsi has written excellent books about Iran as has Hillary Mann written an excellent book which explains the present Iranian Government. Of course, our presidents and United Nations representatives are not even aware that books have been written and are available concerning Iran much less reading a factual, objective analysis of present day Iran. Nicki Haley believes and lives in NEOCON wonderland as did Samantha Power!
If Hezbollah launches missiles against Israel, we will gain valuable real time anti-missile expertise.
Priceless.
As you are probably aware, (although most Americans never heard of it) the US Embassy In Tehran and CIA staff) was used as a staging area for Mosaddegh’s overthrow in 1953. Of course Iranians were well aware of their own history, which explains why they chose to hold US Embassy staff members as hostages. All The Shah’s Men, by Steven Kinzer provides a detailed account of the above.
Sounds like an excellent idea to me. Most people would be far better off today if they had done exactly what you suggest.
I’d go with Jewish Intellectual Influences.
World Jewry declared economic war on Germany in 1933–yes, 1933. With books such as “Germany Must Perish” published by Jewish interests, who could fault the German government from protecting its citizens from the Jewish Bolsheviks, who were fomenting this violence? It is a loosely-guarded secret that Jewish Zionists made deals with the German government to make life difficult for German Jews, in order to help populate what was then known as Palestine. As Jews were the “cream of German society”, who could blame them for not wanting to leave?
As to the “death camps”, there was no such thing. These “camps” were recreated by the soviets after WW2 as propaganda pieces. That famous holohoax (oops, I mean “holocaust ™”) showplace, Auschwitz has a chimney not connected to anything, poor design of the so-called “gas chambers” which would have resulted in the deaths of the operators, and doors that swing “the wrong way” making it impossible to retrieve the bodies. In fact, claims about the efficiency of the crematoria (thousands of bodies totally cremated per day) cannot be duplicated today, even with today’s technology.
As to the true nature of the “camps”, they were work camps, complete with housing, dining facilities, medical and dental facilities, and a wealth of recreational facilities. Now, if these “camps” were “death camps”, why all the ancillary facilities? It would have been easier to dispatch the enemies in place, rather than using Germany’s energy-poor rail and other transportation systems.
It is long overdue for this greatest “hoax of the 20th century” to be thrust on to the “ash heap of history”…
It is beyond just American Jewry, this extends into total financial global control, fashioned from the twisted playbook of a Central Bank scheme to make every nation succumb like Greece. Push has come to shove;
“CHINA MAKES THE BIG MOVE OF THE CENTURY”
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=83560
Goldman Sachs Group wants to make its "Big Move of the Century."
November 2016, Wall Street Journal reported that Goldman Sachs Group is coaxing incredibly populated China to have untethered (market) investment acces$ there.
Such initiative is helped by the ZUSA government's big plan for an economic & military "pivot" to the Far East which of course under Obama was called the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Some might recall how candidate Trump called the trade agreement "bad" for America and vowed to do a better deal? Where is it? (SIGH)
Today, interested ZUSA subjects hear nothing about Emperor Trump's plan for a Far East "pivot" that will also help make America "great again."
However, North Korea's "Rocket Man" has served the ZUSA government ( including Secretary Mnuchin's beloved Goldman Sachs Group) very well by facilitating an astronomical boost of military weaponry around the China neighborhood.
When young in Scranton, I used to hear a lot of the song, "When Irish eyes are smiling."
No doubt, given Kim's relentless "craziness," Military-Industrial-Complex eyes are smiling. Also are the G.S.G. Jewish eyes smiling.
THANKS for the inspiring comment, Paul Leo Faso!
Let’s not forget Israel’s “Samson Option” in which Israel promises to vaporize a European or American city if its interests are gravely threatened.
Israel has consistently refused international inspection of its nuclear facilities, as it cannot account for its nukes.
You see, Israel’s nukes are already “in place” in the various cities around the world, and can be “lit off” with very little effort.
Israel holds a “Damocles sword” over the rest of the world–most politicians “in the know” realize this.
THIS is the major reason that Israel can get away with just about anything.
I honestly don't believe that the world's politicians slavishly serve Jews and Israel out of fear for their lives or their cities. Most of the world's politicians would happily see their cities reduced to rubble if it meant a few more shekels in their pockets and reelection, even to lord it over the rubble.
Merkel for instance, or take McCain. Would ether of these politicians lose a moment's sleep if their nations were to become desolate hell-holes of despair and death? I rather think they'd applaud such an outcome, so long as they personally held on to positions of power.
Would Hillary give one whit if Idaho were nuked by Israel? I suspect she'd cackle at it.
Bill presided over the holocaust in Waco, where the people he was responsible for protecting from harm were burned alive by his goons, including the children. Do you think such a man cares about the American people?! Hell no he doesn't, that's why ((they)) chose him.
Did Dubya care about the people in NYC on 9/11? Or the tens of thousands of Americans who either died or were maimed in his wars? Did you see him joking about the missing WMD?
all Western politicians of any consequence today are selected because they're willing to betray their people and their nations for personal gain. If the Fiend told Merkel to start a war with Russia, and she had the wherewithal to make it happen, do you think that sow would hesitate for a second?
IOW it isn't the stick that motivates these people, but the proverbial carrot.
it isn't fear of their nations being destroyed that motivates today's Western politicians, but rather the perks and privileges (in a word; power) that these politicians enjoy that makes them willing to betray their people and nations to the tender mercies of the Fiend.
one of the best characterizations for today's Western politicians is that hunchback from the movie 300. He didn't betray his people out of fear of death or even suffering, but rather so he could enjoy sexual favors and decadent privileges.
That is why Merkel is betraying and destroying Germany. That is why John McCain and Paul Ryan are destroying their nations and condemning so many innocents to die in contrived wars.
so they can personally be lavished with more perks
I wish you were right, and it was out of fear of nuclear annihilation that they betray their people. That would be more palatable than seeing them betray their nations and people for a dalliance here and a liaison there.
More BS! Ate you too grand to actually bother to look things up that you know bu**er all about. At least you would have got the name of the well known Guinness family right. And you would know that Lord Rothschild’s mother was not a. Guinness, though the late (Mr) Amschel Rothschild, who committed suicide in 1995, did have three children with his Guinness wife. Son James is only in his early 30s and not a peer.
On your reasoning we would be expected to infer that the Cadburys and Agnellis identified as Jews. Why do you utter such crap?
” US military attempts to block Syrian governments access to ISIS-held gas, oilfields in Deir Ezzor” http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/breaking-us-military-attempts-to-block.html
Translation, the US brass has been sending the US boys to fight with ISIS for Golan Heghts to please Israel.
Each and every war veteran of the Middle Eastern wars has to send a note of reparation to each and every prominent ziocon.
“Anti-Semitism” is a normal reaction to Jewish behavior. A. Einstein, in his book Finance and Politics.
Two things:
First, the above picture of Kristol brilliantly captures the smugness (see his perpetual smile) of the American Jews who are in control of the U.S. and very well know it.
Secondly, American Jews, by and large, don’t fight in the American wars they instigate. Their presence in the American armed services, percentage wise, is far below their percent representation in the general population. Their representation in combat arms is even more dismal, but, there’s plenty of Jewish doctors and lawyers in the service.
I signed induction papers to become a Marine enlisted man in 1972 and was discharged honorably as an officer in late 1979, almost 8 years of service in the infantry. I met 10′s of thousands of Marines during those years…but met only one Jewish infantry officer and absolutely no Jewish enlisted men.
It’s hard to remain objective about them given these things.
I’m delighted that Philip had the courage to write what many of us already think about them…they’re cowards, have dual-loyalties and cannot be depended upon to do anything useful for America but fleece us and advance the interests of what Charles De Gaul called “That shitty little country”, Israel.
Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel recently bragged about his offspring joining the IDF. I guess the U S military was not good enough.
THIS is a prime example of how dual nationality and citizenship of the jew will NEVER be used to benefit the American jew's host country...the USA.
Dual citizenship must be abolished. Those who refuse to give up their dual citizenship should be summarily deported--no exceptions...
Any American who serves in a foreign country's military should lose American citizenship...no exceptions
The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible.
This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
If we're not careful, these same treacherous back-stabbing thugs will get the USA involved in a hot war with Iran, while Israel sets on the sideline, laughing about how gullible and stupid those Americans are.
By a happy coincidence, state of Israel is situated between Russia and Iran. The former Soviet Jews (who are planning to live in Israel and are not packing for Russia) should start working on their local egomaniac Bibi and trimming his virtual mustaches a la Adolph, before Israel is converted into a glassy parking lot.
Great article. The war in Iraq was orchestrated by U.S. Jews and had nothing to do with American interests. The middle east would be no more important to Washington then it is to Mexico but for the all powerful Jews who run the USA.
How much is this MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEM and American service people COSTING AMERICAN TAX PAYERS?
If Hezbollah launches missiles against Israel, we will gain valuable real time anti-missile expertise.
Priceless.
When it serves their interests. Although most Ashkenazi Jews seem white, Jews are no more native to Europe then Arabs are.
If we disregard a bit of "semantic play" and undercurrent of, say, certain attitude in the question, it's legit.
So, it is incorrect.
Wrong (I guess in moral sense) doesn't apply in geopolitics.
As I've been saying, the very history of United States (all of the Big Guys in history of humankind, that is) is constant GROWTH. The thing, if successful, simply grows.
First attempt Canada.
Then towards Mexico.
Then, having some "empty" space within, West.
Hawaii.
Then Cuba....Philippines....and the rest till today.
Constant.........growth.
It's easy to even mark it: just follow the builds of US military bases.
Collapse of Soviet Union simply gave the same idea just a new, fresh impetus.
So, blaming Jews for Canada 1812 is just ridiculous.
And from then on it's simply the same game.
I just believe that a good regional war is necessity for US national interest.
Not only "elites", but everyone in US (and loyal satellites and vassals).
That's how it's been since US got conceived.
I mean, everyone except Trump supporters want war.
And what do Trump supporters want: make America great.....again.
If I got all that right, they want, what, US from late 50's?
Wasn't that a direct result from being a winner, without internal destruction, of WW2?
So......
It must be a war, IMHO, somewhere, to keep the same system going on.
Now, if we don't want the war, well, really, we'd want to change the system.
That's in another universe, at the moment.
certain attitude in the question
Elaboration please, I’ve misplaced my cryptoictionary.
They are called “ziocons” — read PNAC (am elaboration of Oded Yinon plan) and take a look at the chronicle of the events (below), which resulted in the millions of civilians deaths – the responsibility of ziocons.
The recommended site, History Commons, quotes “19,700 events and more than 18,000 entities, e.g. individuals, governments/agencies, businesses and organizations.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_Commons
According to Wikipedia, “The History Commons is a web site and organization that documents events and issues of great social and political significance, focusing primarily on events and issues from the 1970s to the present day.” The History Commons is currently blocked on all search engines because the Commons document (among other things) the activities of Israel-firsters, which led to the ongoing wars in the Middle East.
The ziocons (deep state) are not for truth.
As to the "death camps", there was no such thing. These "camps" were recreated by the soviets after WW2 as propaganda pieces. That famous holohoax (oops, I mean "holocaust ™") showplace, Auschwitz has a chimney not connected to anything, poor design of the so-called "gas chambers" which would have resulted in the deaths of the operators, and doors that swing "the wrong way" making it impossible to retrieve the bodies. In fact, claims about the efficiency of the crematoria (thousands of bodies totally cremated per day) cannot be duplicated today, even with today's technology.
As to the true nature of the "camps", they were work camps, complete with housing, dining facilities, medical and dental facilities, and a wealth of recreational facilities. Now, if these "camps" were "death camps", why all the ancillary facilities? It would have been easier to dispatch the enemies in place, rather than using Germany's energy-poor rail and other transportation systems.
It is long overdue for this greatest "hoax of the 20th century" to be thrust on to the "ash heap of history"...
Even if true it is not a response to my comment.
Ezra? Who was Abu Said Al-Khudri, and why did he say (that the Jews will say) that the Jews worship Uzair (Ezra), and who was this Ezra? (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol.6)
Hey RobinG,
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (ra) was a Companion (ra) of the Prophet (pbuh). The hadith you are referring to is basically a reiteration of a verse of Qur’an that denounces some Jews for claiming “Uzayr” is the son of God. There honestly aren’t a whole lot of details in the authentic sources and I have read various explanations by the scholars. The one that makes the most sense to me is that there was a (now-extinct) heretical group living among the Jews in the Hijaz that had developed due to isolation from major Jewish learning centers and being surrounded by pagans – only God knows, barring any discovery of major new evidence on the matter.
Probably the most comprehensive write-up (at least in English) that I have come across is the one from Prof. Jonathan Brown:
http://almadinainstitute.org/blog/the-quran-the-jews-and-ezra-as-the-son-of-god/
As far as Ezra (assuming this “Uzayr” in the Qur’an is referring to him), he was a major Jewish priest in the time after the Babylonian Exile:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ezra-the-scribe
Peace.
Well, that is really more than I care about. It was just so odd to read, it really suffices that it referred to an isolated sect, and not some whole secret train of thought that I was unaware of.
Peace, indeed.
You were talking about centuries before the existence of Israel, no?
Jonathan, is that you?
Rurik’s not Revusky; in fact they had a falling out.
Jonathan, is that you?
there are times when it is appropriate to speak in vulgar terms if you want to actually describe something accurately
from what I understand, the best kapos in the camps were homosexuals. And they’d do anything to be allowed certain privileges. It was well known that they were enamored of their handsome, tall, blonde Nazi captors, and were in no small measure willing to abase themselves in every way possible to endear themselves to the guards and Kommandant.
The services they offered went from ratting out their fellow Jews to the guards- to offering lewd favors for those guards who’d deign to accept them. So yes, the vulgar description at the top of this post is on occasion apropos, and I can’t help but see Paul Ryan as one of these modern day kapos, willing to do anything, no matter how abased, to please his masters. It’s just that now the roles are somewhat reversed, and Sheldon Adelson is playing the part of Nazi Kommandant, and Paul Ryan is the homosexual kapo willing and eager to perform depraved favors to earn Sheldon’s approval, while betraying his own people for a few privileges.
don’t you agree that the parallels between Ryan (and Lindsey and McCain, etc..) and those homosexual kapos are too eerily analogous to ignore?
Israel has consistently refused international inspection of its nuclear facilities, as it cannot account for its nukes.
You see, Israel's nukes are already "in place" in the various cities around the world, and can be "lit off" with very little effort.
Israel holds a "Damocles sword" over the rest of the world--most politicians "in the know" realize this.
THIS is the major reason that Israel can get away with just about anything.
I must take a slight issue with this characterization anarchist
I honestly don’t believe that the world’s politicians slavishly serve Jews and Israel out of fear for their lives or their cities. Most of the world’s politicians would happily see their cities reduced to rubble if it meant a few more shekels in their pockets and reelection, even to lord it over the rubble.
Merkel for instance, or take McCain. Would ether of these politicians lose a moment’s sleep if their nations were to become desolate hell-holes of despair and death? I rather think they’d applaud such an outcome, so long as they personally held on to positions of power.
Would Hillary give one whit if Idaho were nuked by Israel? I suspect she’d cackle at it.
Bill presided over the holocaust in Waco, where the people he was responsible for protecting from harm were burned alive by his goons, including the children. Do you think such a man cares about the American people?! Hell no he doesn’t, that’s why ((they)) chose him.
Did Dubya care about the people in NYC on 9/11? Or the tens of thousands of Americans who either died or were maimed in his wars? Did you see him joking about the missing WMD?
all Western politicians of any consequence today are selected because they’re willing to betray their people and their nations for personal gain. If the Fiend told Merkel to start a war with Russia, and she had the wherewithal to make it happen, do you think that sow would hesitate for a second?
IOW it isn’t the stick that motivates these people, but the proverbial carrot.
it isn’t fear of their nations being destroyed that motivates today’s Western politicians, but rather the perks and privileges (in a word; power) that these politicians enjoy that makes them willing to betray their people and nations to the tender mercies of the Fiend.
one of the best characterizations for today’s Western politicians is that hunchback from the movie 300. He didn’t betray his people out of fear of death or even suffering, but rather so he could enjoy sexual favors and decadent privileges.
That is why Merkel is betraying and destroying Germany. That is why John McCain and Paul Ryan are destroying their nations and condemning so many innocents to die in contrived wars.
so they can personally be lavished with more perks
I wish you were right, and it was out of fear of nuclear annihilation that they betray their people. That would be more palatable than seeing them betray their nations and people for a dalliance here and a liaison there.
Regards,
Don’t EVER underestimate just how strong is the support of most American Jews for Israel. I have never seen this support go much below 83% even when Israel’s behavior towards it neighbors was at its most barbarous stages such as during its numerous and murderous forays into Lebanon or Gaza over the years.
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/US-Jews-strongly-support-Israel-new-poll-shows
This support hasn’t manage to go much below this 83% figure even when it has became increasingly evident that it was Israel that had pushed for the US’s numerous interventions in the Mideast. Even recent, increasing evidence that Israel has supplied much or most of the support for the ISIL rebel movement in Syria seems to have not budged this figure either. These people are real “true believers’ and their support for Israel continues irregardless of how outrageous Israel’s behavior becomes.
But history simply repeats itself. This strong support for Israel resembles just how American Jews continued to strongly support Stalin well into the early 1950s even though news of mass genocides in the USSR in places like the Ukraine had started to became apparent as far back as the early and mid 1930s. Jews then, as now, simply ignored the the evidence (the message) but made absolutely sure to harshly punish the messengers.
This article, for instance, on the Ukrainian genocide of 1932-1933 (AKA The Holomador) not only got Malcolm Muggeridge, who had actually visited the Ukraine when this genocide was occurring, fired as a reporter from the Manchester Guardian Newspaper but also blacklisted for almost two decades (or more) afterwards.
http://www.garethjones.org/soviet_articles/soviet_and_the_peasantry_2.htm)
The NY Times NEVER forgave him for contradicting its shill, the infamous (and Pulitzer Prize winning) Walter Duranty.
After all, it was only gentiles who were the ones being murdered and we all know that it is only considered genocide when Jews are the ones dying.
The French author and philosopher Voltaire, who had supplied the intellectual firepower behind the most important parts of our own Bill of Rights (freedom of religion, freedom of speech) said it very presciently over two hundred years ago that:
“They (Jews) are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race…”
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
"The French author and philosopher Voltaire, who had supplied the intellectual firepower behind the most important parts of our own Bill of Rights (freedom of religion, freedom of speech) said it very presciently over two hundred years ago that:
“They (Jews) are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race…”
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
Paul Craig Roberts in “Trump’s UN Speech” writes:
{I listened to part of Trump’s UN speech this morning. I was so embarrassed for him and for my country that I had to turn it off.
I wonder if whoever wrote the deplorable speech intended to embarrass Trump and inadvertently embarrassed America as well, or whether the speechwriter(s) is so imbued with the neoconservative arrogance and hubris of our time that the speechwriter was simply blind to the extraordinary contradictions that stood out like sore thumbs all through the speech.}
https://dissidentvoice.org/2017/09/trumps-un-speech/
Doesn’t Mr. Roberts know that a ziofascist by the name of Stephen Miller is writing Trump’s garbage for the interest of the zionist Jews. The zionist Jews have already sucked blood out of another US empire to serve the jewish interest.
Israelnationalnews “The Jew who wrote Trump’s speech” writes:
{Stephen Miller writes Trump’s UN speech, detailing an almost biblical view of independent nations..
Miller is 32 years old. Born in Santa Monica, California, he second son of real estate investor Michael Miller’s three children. Miller’s maternal grandparents immigrated with their daughter from Belarus in the early 1900s. Some of his family members were tailors.
Miller received a liberal education typical of other American Jews, but adopted a more conservative perspective in high school. As a student at Duke University, Miller became active in David Horowitz’s conservative Freedom Center think tank and began to fight the silencing of conservative viewpoints.
In January 2016, he joined Trump’s election campaign. Later the same year, he was chosen to serve as one of the President’s advisers.}
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235792
The zionist jew, Stephen Miller, is not an expert in ANYTHING, he is advisor because he is a jew. He has ONLY a BA degree in liberal art, yet he is advising an illiterate zionist stooge on world issues and the complicated Middle East and writing his weaponized ‘speeches’ to boost the Jews’ interest against the interest of the rest in the world.
This illiterate fellow copies from the garbage that comes from a baby killer, Netanyahu, and feed it to the world. The people in the middle East reject the zionist garbage when they see it, since they are knowledgeable. The comments in the region has pained trump A ZIONIST CLOWN, at the best.
But how about ignorant Americans who are supportive of zionist garbage read by a clown?
The evidence about Ledeen and the overthrow of Allende may not be on the Internet. It may be in a book in a university library. Or an article in Foreign Affairs and other magazines.
Middle eastern Jews are known as Mizrahi, not Sephardic. 2 very different groups.
Jew and Arabs are cousins. That’s the problem, because the family feud is the worst feud.
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/US-Jews-strongly-support-Israel-new-poll-shows
This support hasn't manage to go much below this 83% figure even when it has became increasingly evident that it was Israel that had pushed for the US's numerous interventions in the Mideast. Even recent, increasing evidence that Israel has supplied much or most of the support for the ISIL rebel movement in Syria seems to have not budged this figure either. These people are real "true believers' and their support for Israel continues irregardless of how outrageous Israel's behavior becomes.
But history simply repeats itself. This strong support for Israel resembles just how American Jews continued to strongly support Stalin well into the early 1950s even though news of mass genocides in the USSR in places like the Ukraine had started to became apparent as far back as the early and mid 1930s. Jews then, as now, simply ignored the the evidence (the message) but made absolutely sure to harshly punish the messengers.
This article, for instance, on the Ukrainian genocide of 1932-1933 (AKA The Holomador) not only got Malcolm Muggeridge, who had actually visited the Ukraine when this genocide was occurring, fired as a reporter from the Manchester Guardian Newspaper but also blacklisted for almost two decades (or more) afterwards.
http://www.garethjones.org/soviet_articles/soviet_and_the_peasantry_2.htm)
The NY Times NEVER forgave him for contradicting its shill, the infamous (and Pulitzer Prize winning) Walter Duranty.
After all, it was only gentiles who were the ones being murdered and we all know that it is only considered genocide when Jews are the ones dying.
The French author and philosopher Voltaire, who had supplied the intellectual firepower behind the most important parts of our own Bill of Rights (freedom of religion, freedom of speech) said it very presciently over two hundred years ago that:
"They (Jews) are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race..."
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
Deserves to be reposted:
“The French author and philosopher Voltaire, who had supplied the intellectual firepower behind the most important parts of our own Bill of Rights (freedom of religion, freedom of speech) said it very presciently over two hundred years ago that:
“They (Jews) are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race…”
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
A special point that must be kept secret is how the Federal Reserve is used by Wall Street to embezzle billions daily from the US government. Ref. https://www.scribd.com/document355085824 . Embezzlement by Federal Reserve–.document 355085824
Would we agree that the jewish mafia has their headquarters in the financial centers of Wall Street ? Ref. https://www.scribd.com/document355085824 . Embezzlement by Federal Reserve–.document 355085824
I find Benjamin Ginsberg’s mention in FATAL EMBRACE; JEWS AND THE STATE of the London financiers inducing King John to invade Normandy which led to the Baron’s revolt that terminated in the Magna Carta. The Barons would have had to man and finance the invasion. King Edward, and the masses, eventually deseized, man-handled, and exiled the jews in later years.
Phil’s discussion of jews and war-mongering has a lengthy history.
"CHINA MAKES THE BIG MOVE OF THE CENTURY"
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=83560
Hey Paul Leo Faso,
Goldman Sachs Group wants to make its “Big Move of the Century.”
November 2016, Wall Street Journal reported that Goldman Sachs Group is coaxing incredibly populated China to have untethered (market) investment acces$ there.
Such initiative is helped by the ZUSA government’s big plan for an economic & military “pivot” to the Far East which of course under Obama was called the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Some might recall how candidate Trump called the trade agreement “bad” for America and vowed to do a better deal? Where is it? (SIGH)
Today, interested ZUSA subjects hear nothing about Emperor Trump’s plan for a Far East “pivot” that will also help make America “great again.”
However, North Korea’s “Rocket Man” has served the ZUSA government ( including Secretary Mnuchin’s beloved Goldman Sachs Group) very well by facilitating an astronomical boost of military weaponry around the China neighborhood.
When young in Scranton, I used to hear a lot of the song, “When Irish eyes are smiling.”
No doubt, given Kim’s relentless “craziness,” Military-Industrial-Complex eyes are smiling. Also are the G.S.G. Jewish eyes smiling.
THANKS for the inspiring comment, Paul Leo Faso!
Of interest there is a very astute Australian by the name of Brendon O'Connell who has a you tube account with many keen observations regarding the moves being made in China. I have not reviewed all of the content but one I will link below as to the nature of his reporting being on target.
"Netanyahu Visits Down Under"
http://youtu.be/RzOocNEW0
If I miss the link - go to his you tube page for the index
Thanks again
Mizrahi relates to Arab jews. Ashkenszia relates to the larger body of jews from central Europe which has occupied Wall Street and Israel. They have no biological connection with either Shepardic or Mizrahi. The Ashkenzia jewish faith was imposed by their ruler.
Sephardi are not indigenous MENA Jews. They are descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and then spread north to Europe and south to the MENA.
Mizrahi like many MENA Christians are actually descendants of the original Jews who lived in the MENA centuries before both the 650AD Arab Muslim invasion and the creation of Christianity, 2,000 years ago.
In addition to Chaldeans, Assyrians, Berbers Yazidis, Zorastrians, , and Mizrahi Jews, there are plenty of groups in the MENA who are NOT ARABS but descendants of ancient indigenous people.
There are also Persian Jews, an ancient and powerful group who have lived in Persia for at least 4,000 years. They have recently invaded and conquered Beverly Hills Ca.
I know all about the Khazar theory and the Ashkenazi Jews. Why tell me about them.
People who know little about Jews, Palestine and Jewish history generally don't know that Mizrahi Jews exist and think that they are Sephardi Jews. Like you.
First, the above picture of Kristol brilliantly captures the smugness (see his perpetual smile) of the American Jews who are in control of the U.S. and very well know it.
Secondly, American Jews, by and large, don't fight in the American wars they instigate. Their presence in the American armed services, percentage wise, is far below their percent representation in the general population. Their representation in combat arms is even more dismal, but, there's plenty of Jewish doctors and lawyers in the service.
I signed induction papers to become a Marine enlisted man in 1972 and was discharged honorably as an officer in late 1979, almost 8 years of service in the infantry. I met 10's of thousands of Marines during those years...but met only one Jewish infantry officer and absolutely no Jewish enlisted men.
It's hard to remain objective about them given these things.
I'm delighted that Philip had the courage to write what many of us already think about them...they're cowards, have dual-loyalties and cannot be depended upon to do anything useful for America but fleece us and advance the interests of what Charles De Gaul called "That shitty little country", Israel.
First, Semper Fi to you! Served later than you, but noticed the same thing about the Marines and other branches of the service, as I was often in joint service situations. Jews are physically chicken. The also don’t have the concept of giving back to this country, which has given them so much. My Dad was Jewish, so I might have ended up in that typical group of Jews you talk about; except for certain reasons. Saw communism up close and personal within the former East Germany and Czechoslovakia in the 1980′s. My dad was a World War Two veteran. I know he originally voted for Wendell Willie and didn’t want to go, but he was called up in the first peace time draft in 1941. I was pretty young when he died, but he was thrilled that his parents had the good sense to come here after World War One. He used to call this country “the best one in the world” So I did grow up with the idea that one day I would do something in return for this country. Couldn’t be infantry of course, I’m female, but proud that I went.
PLEASE stop saying “American Jews” when what you really mean is “American Zionists.” Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.
PLEASE - where are the Jew voices in America that do not support their tribal agenda?
There is not a whisper of defiance in the Jew community. There may be intra tribal debates – but nothing public. “American Jews” act as one.
US Jews are mostly all cowards (99%) when it comes to openly and publicly condemning anything Israel does. They fear each other – they fear their Big Jews.
Together as a tribe, US Jews terrorize any truth seeking American who questions Israel. They threaten their livelihood with anti-Semite charges.
US Jews call themselves “American Jews” because in their mind they are separate from the rest of us.
Think Peace --- Art
no can do.
All Jews in the USA need to be made to feel extremely uncomfortable.
A week or so ago a US Congressional committee held a hearing on Syria. More than two or three of the reps said things like, "There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. We need to persuade the good Muslims to call out the bad Muslims."
In other words, in the view of the US Congress it is appropriate -- necessary, even, to put the entire Muslim community under the microscope so that we inherently good Americans may pass judgment on them, and also so that Muslim A can be induced to rat out Muslim B.
I couldn't believe it.
But if that's the way things work according to US Congress, then I see no reason why the same system should not apply to Jews, all American Jews. And given the cosmopolitanism of Jews, maybe not just American Jews but ALL Jews should be put under the microscope, examined and judged, and required to call out those of their number who offend against American interests.
Plenty of Jews are, you just happen to be responding to Sam the Sham, a zionist shill. His job is to defend an indefensible stance with a mix of dishonesty, obfuscation and diversion.
Nevertheless, as I said, plenty of intellectually honest Jews exist, although unfortunately they are not the majority.
See:
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1145734278/
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/7/7/chilcot-israel-and-the-lobby
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/the-iraq-war-coverup-what-did-aipac-do-and-when-did-it-do-it/
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/02/ten-reasons-why-the-israel-lobby-aipac-is-so-dangerous/
Goldman Sachs Group wants to make its "Big Move of the Century."
November 2016, Wall Street Journal reported that Goldman Sachs Group is coaxing incredibly populated China to have untethered (market) investment acces$ there.
Such initiative is helped by the ZUSA government's big plan for an economic & military "pivot" to the Far East which of course under Obama was called the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP). Some might recall how candidate Trump called the trade agreement "bad" for America and vowed to do a better deal? Where is it? (SIGH)
Today, interested ZUSA subjects hear nothing about Emperor Trump's plan for a Far East "pivot" that will also help make America "great again."
However, North Korea's "Rocket Man" has served the ZUSA government ( including Secretary Mnuchin's beloved Goldman Sachs Group) very well by facilitating an astronomical boost of military weaponry around the China neighborhood.
When young in Scranton, I used to hear a lot of the song, "When Irish eyes are smiling."
No doubt, given Kim's relentless "craziness," Military-Industrial-Complex eyes are smiling. Also are the G.S.G. Jewish eyes smiling.
THANKS for the inspiring comment, Paul Leo Faso!
Thank you Chuck.
Of interest there is a very astute Australian by the name of Brendon O’Connell who has a you tube account with many keen observations regarding the moves being made in China. I have not reviewed all of the content but one I will link below as to the nature of his reporting being on target.
“Netanyahu Visits Down Under”
http://youtu.be/RzOocNEW0
If I miss the link – go to his you tube page for the index
Thanks again
Sorry for the tardy response, and I must access Brendon in the recommended alternative way!
Please do not miss reading SolontoCroesus terrific comment # 374 where his conversation with Sebastian Gorky is shared!
While I am not an “insider” to geo-politics, I have to put in a word about the anti-Semitism I detect here. Most of my Jewish friends are as patriotic as I. They may think of Israel as a “nice idea” but they are definitely “America first”. In fact many are disappointed with the undemocratic treatment of the Palestinians. Without doubt, there are some who closet Zionists.
What the heavy hitters in the Zionist game may be doing is far removed from me, but I doubt they have substantial support among the rank and file.
a device to use collective guilt in such a one-sided and dishonest way that it allows Zionists to murder and genocide an entire people with impunity, and even claim victim status as they do it.
is it any wonder that some people have had it with the endless shrieking about the Holocau$t?
what are there, about twelve movies every month demonizing Germans and southern men while all Jews are always made out to be victims or violin-playing geniuses?
I agree that there are a lot of good and decent Jews, and that blanket stereotypes about people in general are not fair to the individuals who represent the exceptions, but then where were the Jewish voices of outrage when Israel was dropping white phosphorous in Gaza? It seems like John Stewart was the last Jewish voice on the msm that spoke of the Palestinians as humans.
I didn't watch the Emmys, but I doubt there were many people there who spoke out against the Eternal Wars for Israel that the ZUSA has been engaged ever since the 9/11 false flag attack.
with all the moral preening going on, you'd think some of them would say something other than Trump = Adolf Hitler.
“Disappointed” is a mealy-mouthed word when it comes to the treatment of the Palestinians. They right word is “outraged.”
Think Peace --- Art
Uh-oh.
What we really need to understand is that these fr**King NeoCon Artists are deliberately pushing for the deaths of bombs in the United States forcing both China and Russia into war.
Known or not it was atheist Jewish extracts that created the Bolshevik revolution that killed 10s of millions Christian Russians.
Equally it was the drive of Jewish influence in Russian, Great Brittain, United States media control that created the hate everything German which allowed for the civilian bombing of all major German cities killing over 20 million Germans during WW2.
Trust me: NeoCons don’t care a wit how many Americans die.
killery was less of a hawk on Iran? Please. Too, put this in your peace pipe and smoke it: “I know the blasphemy of those who say they Jews and are not but are s synagogue of Satan.”. Jesus rev. 2:9. Was that alt-right or alt-left? It was dead center and right on the mark.
What the heavy hitters in the Zionist game may be doing is far removed from me, but I doubt they have substantial support among the rank and file.
curious, I took a quick look at your comment history
many people believe the Holocaust is a blood libel cynically used to demonize the German people in particular and all people of European extraction in general.
a device to use collective guilt in such a one-sided and dishonest way that it allows Zionists to murder and genocide an entire people with impunity, and even claim victim status as they do it.
is it any wonder that some people have had it with the endless shrieking about the Holocau$t?
what are there, about twelve movies every month demonizing Germans and southern men while all Jews are always made out to be victims or violin-playing geniuses?
I agree that there are a lot of good and decent Jews, and that blanket stereotypes about people in general are not fair to the individuals who represent the exceptions, but then where were the Jewish voices of outrage when Israel was dropping white phosphorous in Gaza? It seems like John Stewart was the last Jewish voice on the msm that spoke of the Palestinians as humans.
I didn’t watch the Emmys, but I doubt there were many people there who spoke out against the Eternal Wars for Israel that the ZUSA has been engaged ever since the 9/11 false flag attack.
with all the moral preening going on, you’d think some of them would say something other than Trump = Adolf Hitler.
Are Jews or commies the ones responsible? They are not the same. Just ask Russia.
http://www.resalat-news.com/fa/?code=251219A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
don’t insult our intelligence, Sam.
Your link goes to a page in Farsi. You speak Farsi? Didn’t think so.
I tried Babylon but couldn’t get a translation.
the most basic bit of non-PhD-level hunting & pecking, and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but this bit of reindeer poo (the deer in the ‘hood are really bad this time of year) –
Washington Examiner
Jamie Whinestein, contributor
July 13 – 14, 2017
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/answering-tucker-carlson-why-iran-is-a-grave-threat-to-the-us/article/2628597/comments
Answering Tucker Carlson: Why Iran is a grave threat to the US
here’s what Sam Shama wrote (pasted):
A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.
Michael Khattib, July 13 2017, Sam Shama Sept 20, 2017
same same
Just like reindeer poo: one steaming pile looks just like every other steaming pile.
btw, neither one of you steaming piles — not Michael nor Sam — seems to know the difference between could and would:
could, simple past tense of can, where can means
to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to:
the online dictionary cautions against confusing with, or misusing for, or misinterpreting could with
would, simple past tense of will, where will means
is expected or required to:
is determined or sure to (used emphatically)
Here’s an example:
If I roll over that steaming pile of deer poo in the driveway I could flatten it, but I would not do that because it would leave a stain on the pavers.
See the difference, Sam (and Michael)? It’s about ability vs intention.
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As for your highly insightful and erudite commentary, about “Iran not being very friendly toward USA,” I had a bit of a conversation with Sebastian Gorky some months ago (before Gorky was hired then fired by the Trump). Gorky said that Iran was a threat to the USA; I suggested that Gorky look at a map and count the bases USA had surrounding Iran, then tally up the bases that Iran had on or around US territory. “What is Iran doing to USA, that USA should aim so many guns at Iran, on its own home turf,” I asked SG.
Honest to god — I have it on record — Gorky came near to popping a blood vessel when he screamed in my face: “Iran says Death to America!”
For that reason, USA should maintain Iran in the crosshairs of 36 military bases, about which, in your cribbed view, Iran should be totally complacent.
SolontoCroesus,
I respect your satoric words (above) and I predict Sam The Sham might return spin the image thusly,
"The amazing economic advantage inherent in reindeer droppings emote remarkably high b.t.u. value and is a fine byproduct to undergo a groundbreaking scientific Jewish 'Fuels Blending' process in combination with Mount Tabor-scale piles of (high octane) Siberian elk- herd dung that Sarah Palin obsequiously first observed from a Juneau-based chalet during the solar eclipse... she said, 'Geewillikers, wait 'til McCain hears this, blah, blah, blah."
Seriously, S2C. inflated intellectual "experts" like Sebastian Gorky never cease to amaze!
How does one possessing high IQ and a good (stilted) education engage another with similar traits, and (mindlessly) screams, "Iran says death to America!"
W.T.F.?
Everywhere one looks in The Corporate Media, an intelligent, well spoken / groomed & charismatic person appears in front of the American consumer and triumphantly tells lies.
Hundreds of shit elite media examples!
What is going on here? Methinks it boils down to the Jewish money outla and career advancement opportinity built into the lying job description. But why does affluent Sam The Sham Shama sarin gas reality? (Sigh) I know that he's just a "bad" Hasbara hombre.
Amazing how the Bolshevik official rag spawned samizdat and now the totalitarian MSM has sprouted where we now write?
Thank you.
Great article. As long as the Jewish, zionist, luciferian bankers control the Federal Reserve and therefore create currency out of thin air and charge Amercian’s and our government interest, nothing will change. More wars, more fluoride in the water, more chemtrails in the sky, more GMO, more death and destruction around the globe. Consider that these bankers control all Central banks for almost all countries. The world is enslaved moving towards their one world government, which is pure evil. Americans are slowly waking up, but most unfortunately are still asleep. Although it’s tough to blame them. They’re propagandized 24/7 by the banker’s controlled media, hollywood and education (indoctrination) system. Presidents who have pushed back against the Central bankers have been eliminated: Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, Kennedy. And Nixon was forced out. America is firmly in the grip of the 5th column enemy.
https://www.henrymakow.com
PLEASE stop saying “American Jews” when what you really mean is “American Zionists.” Not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.
PLEASE – where are the Jew voices in America that do not support their tribal agenda?
There is not a whisper of defiance in the Jew community. There may be intra tribal debates – but nothing public. “American Jews” act as one.
US Jews are mostly all cowards (99%) when it comes to openly and publicly condemning anything Israel does. They fear each other – they fear their Big Jews.
Together as a tribe, US Jews terrorize any truth seeking American who questions Israel. They threaten their livelihood with anti-Semite charges.
US Jews call themselves “American Jews” because in their mind they are separate from the rest of us.
Think Peace — Art
Their supreme ignorance is that a few anti Zionist Jews have any influence whatsoever on the Zionist Jews.
There are no secular or reform Jews who want to see the end of the state of Israel. A few, very very few Orthodox Jews do not approve of the state of Israel for obscure religious reasons. But most of them live in Israel, do not work and live on welfare.
So they, like the Rabbi in the video don't want to the state of Israel go back to Palestine. You saw the Yeshiva "scholars" didn't you? They will not do a lick of work their entire lives and neither will their wives except to collect welfare.
There are some Jews who object to the treatment of Palestinians. But 99 percent of them are totally in favor of the state of Israel.
Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (ra) was a Companion (ra) of the Prophet (pbuh). The hadith you are referring to is basically a reiteration of a verse of Qur'an that denounces some Jews for claiming "Uzayr" is the son of God. There honestly aren't a whole lot of details in the authentic sources and I have read various explanations by the scholars. The one that makes the most sense to me is that there was a (now-extinct) heretical group living among the Jews in the Hijaz that had developed due to isolation from major Jewish learning centers and being surrounded by pagans - only God knows, barring any discovery of major new evidence on the matter.
Probably the most comprehensive write-up (at least in English) that I have come across is the one from Prof. Jonathan Brown:
http://almadinainstitute.org/blog/the-quran-the-jews-and-ezra-as-the-son-of-god/
As far as Ezra (assuming this "Uzayr" in the Qur'an is referring to him), he was a major Jewish priest in the time after the Babylonian Exile:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ezra-the-scribe
Peace.
TY Prof. T.! It’s good to know it’s a bit of a mystery, because I never heard of any Jews believing there was a son of God. But then the name thing… This came from a footnote in a Quran. They have Ezra in parens, (like that is the English translation of Uzayr), so not a separate person. Or is this Jewish priest the same ‘son of God’?
Well, that is really more than I care about. It was just so odd to read, it really suffices that it referred to an isolated sect, and not some whole secret train of thought that I was unaware of.
Peace, indeed.
The nuance is found when you accept certain aspects about the Arabic language and rhetoric. According to the rules of rhetoric, it is completely fine to state "the Jews" or "the people" any either of the following cases; 1) when all of the group is meant, 2) when some of the group is meant, 3) when just one of the group is meant. The context must be explored in order to determine the intention.
In fact, one might say a similar discussion is going on in this thread regarding Mr. Giraldi's use of the phrase "American Jews" in his title; context and intention is key.
Languages are quirky like that and don't translate well always. For instance, it is a completely valid grammatical statement in Arabic (and the sentence has its own qualification) to say something like; all the men left the room except the cat.
Peace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzziah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azariah_(prophet)
We don't really know because, those people are gone (like some of the heretical ancient Christian strains) - unless we find something new in an archaeological dig or something. In fact, I don't even think there is external evidence for any historical Jewish presence - period - in the Hijaz other than Muslim sources. I think they were completely off the grid.
sorry.
no can do.
All Jews in the USA need to be made to feel extremely uncomfortable.
A week or so ago a US Congressional committee held a hearing on Syria. More than two or three of the reps said things like, “There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. We need to persuade the good Muslims to call out the bad Muslims.”
In other words, in the view of the US Congress it is appropriate — necessary, even, to put the entire Muslim community under the microscope so that we inherently good Americans may pass judgment on them, and also so that Muslim A can be induced to rat out Muslim B.
I couldn’t believe it.
But if that’s the way things work according to US Congress, then I see no reason why the same system should not apply to Jews, all American Jews. And given the cosmopolitanism of Jews, maybe not just American Jews but ALL Jews should be put under the microscope, examined and judged, and required to call out those of their number who offend against American interests.
A quick glance at history ought to convince the cleverer of the bunch to willingly try to stop the war machine which they are helping to fuel through their money and political pressure.
Very interesting, TY. Do you recall who described Breitbart this way?
We don't need no stinking treaty. Treaties are frequently discarded or broken.
Not so with unshakeable bonds between kindred peoples.
Yeah, right! Treaties are also rather pesky because they tend to codify a certain quid pro quo into law. If you bypass them, then you just get the quid without having to pay the quo.
What the heavy hitters in the Zionist game may be doing is far removed from me, but I doubt they have substantial support among the rank and file.
Please — in private they say one thing to you – but where are they in public – 2 to 1 that in public, 99% of them support Israel politically. A US Jew who supports Israel is NOT an American patriot. It is a perversion of language to say someone can be “loyal” to two like entities.
“Disappointed” is a mealy-mouthed word when it comes to the treatment of the Palestinians. They right word is “outraged.”
Think Peace — Art
Occupation of the American Mind--Israeli PR war inside U.S.:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47823.htm
Thanks, Bob! Great that this excellent film can now be shared on YouTube.
The Occupation of the American Mind (Part 1)
(Part 2)
(Part 3) – [I think this really is Part 3, but with some commentary]
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2013963
Occupation of the American Mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
In the first part, Sut Jahlly, at about 7 min, Jhally introduces Frank Luntz and the manual he prepared in 2009, The Global Language Dictionary. Jhally reviews key points and processes taught through the GLD https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
@ 16 min, narrates how the devastating images of Israel's killing activities in Lebanon in 1982 -- its war against Lebanon, then the massacre at Sabra and Shatilla, which were broadcast round the world, were the near-equivalent of the concentration camp images that US psychological warfare practitioners used to such long-lasting effect against Germany.
Jhally says:
That is the argument of a cretin. Would the article’s title still be “unhinged and bigoted”, if it were actually true ?
Thought so.
Well, that is really more than I care about. It was just so odd to read, it really suffices that it referred to an isolated sect, and not some whole secret train of thought that I was unaware of.
Peace, indeed.
Hey RobinG,
Nah! I can’t think of a single scholar who thought this applied to all Jews in general – it most certainly did not.
The nuance is found when you accept certain aspects about the Arabic language and rhetoric. According to the rules of rhetoric, it is completely fine to state “the Jews” or “the people” any either of the following cases; 1) when all of the group is meant, 2) when some of the group is meant, 3) when just one of the group is meant. The context must be explored in order to determine the intention.
In fact, one might say a similar discussion is going on in this thread regarding Mr. Giraldi’s use of the phrase “American Jews” in his title; context and intention is key.
Languages are quirky like that and don’t translate well always. For instance, it is a completely valid grammatical statement in Arabic (and the sentence has its own qualification) to say something like; all the men left the room except the cat.
Peace.
I honestly don't believe that the world's politicians slavishly serve Jews and Israel out of fear for their lives or their cities. Most of the world's politicians would happily see their cities reduced to rubble if it meant a few more shekels in their pockets and reelection, even to lord it over the rubble.
Merkel for instance, or take McCain. Would ether of these politicians lose a moment's sleep if their nations were to become desolate hell-holes of despair and death? I rather think they'd applaud such an outcome, so long as they personally held on to positions of power.
Would Hillary give one whit if Idaho were nuked by Israel? I suspect she'd cackle at it.
Bill presided over the holocaust in Waco, where the people he was responsible for protecting from harm were burned alive by his goons, including the children. Do you think such a man cares about the American people?! Hell no he doesn't, that's why ((they)) chose him.
Did Dubya care about the people in NYC on 9/11? Or the tens of thousands of Americans who either died or were maimed in his wars? Did you see him joking about the missing WMD?
all Western politicians of any consequence today are selected because they're willing to betray their people and their nations for personal gain. If the Fiend told Merkel to start a war with Russia, and she had the wherewithal to make it happen, do you think that sow would hesitate for a second?
IOW it isn't the stick that motivates these people, but the proverbial carrot.
it isn't fear of their nations being destroyed that motivates today's Western politicians, but rather the perks and privileges (in a word; power) that these politicians enjoy that makes them willing to betray their people and nations to the tender mercies of the Fiend.
one of the best characterizations for today's Western politicians is that hunchback from the movie 300. He didn't betray his people out of fear of death or even suffering, but rather so he could enjoy sexual favors and decadent privileges.
That is why Merkel is betraying and destroying Germany. That is why John McCain and Paul Ryan are destroying their nations and condemning so many innocents to die in contrived wars.
so they can personally be lavished with more perks
I wish you were right, and it was out of fear of nuclear annihilation that they betray their people. That would be more palatable than seeing them betray their nations and people for a dalliance here and a liaison there.
You make very good salient points. You are correct about the politicians not “giving a damn” about Israel’s nukes. The “movers and shakers” do not give a damn about the population. However, the threat from Israel still exists. One political figure who refuses to kowtow to the Israeli line could see a city vaporized by an Israeli nuke. Just look at what happened to John F. Kennedy when he bucked the establishment “deep state”…
Regards,
Of interest there is a very astute Australian by the name of Brendon O'Connell who has a you tube account with many keen observations regarding the moves being made in China. I have not reviewed all of the content but one I will link below as to the nature of his reporting being on target.
"Netanyahu Visits Down Under"
http://youtu.be/RzOocNEW0
If I miss the link - go to his you tube page for the index
Thanks again
Paul Leo Faso,
Sorry for the tardy response, and I must access Brendon in the recommended alternative way!
Please do not miss reading SolontoCroesus terrific comment # 374 where his conversation with Sebastian Gorky is shared!
The jewish “moneyed interests” have financed BOTH sides of every war for hundreds of years. They rely on the suffering of others to make their shekels…
No.
Well, that is really more than I care about. It was just so odd to read, it really suffices that it referred to an isolated sect, and not some whole secret train of thought that I was unaware of.
Peace, indeed.
Sorry, missed the editing window…
Ezra is certainly the front runner, could also have been men like:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzziah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azariah_(prophet)
We don’t really know because, those people are gone (like some of the heretical ancient Christian strains) – unless we find something new in an archaeological dig or something. In fact, I don’t even think there is external evidence for any historical Jewish presence – period – in the Hijaz other than Muslim sources. I think they were completely off the grid.
David Horowitz’ promotion of Israeli myths is a disservice to America. He obscures, falsifies, bastardizes history. This is directly harmful to Americans, who endorse criminal foreign policy because they are so radically misinformed.
More precise information please.
More precise information please.
Americans, who endorse criminal foreign policy because they are so radically misinformed
I appreciate the dispensation, but wouldn't dis-interested be more accurate?
In what was perhaps the most clear choice in over 150 years in a Presidential election only 55% bothered.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11771952/Two-Israelis-charged-in-arson-attack-on-Church-of-Loaves-and-Fishes.html
Knowles works with Ben Shapiro at The Daily Wire. Shapiro is a big-time Neocon and is a “one issue” guy.
I can disagree on a lot of things about a guy but still find his views on other matters of interest.
If a neocon says 2 + 2 = 4, should we deny it because he’s s neocon?
Btw, here is a neo-coon.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10155946623721833&id=514621832
Certainly SOME Israelis and American Jews are involved in developing policy designed to generate hostility to the point of potential war.
But Dick Cheney and Erik Prince, among other prominent non-Jews, bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Jew fixation here is duly noted. Boo! Goes the Joo!
"The USA is a colony of Israel".
Fake News Story. Now, let us assume that to be true. What are personally doing about this situation? What active measures are you taking to free yourself from the shackles of your oppressor? Or, are simply impotent while taking it good and hard?
Tell us more about this Christianity of yours which forbids you to use sarcasm.
I said Jews had been accused of disloyalty (by anti-Semites) for many years before the existence of Israel. My point being that the existence of the State of Israel is not in any way a prerequisite for the charge of disloyalty and then you came in and provided precise examples. Then I reminded you of one of the favorite modern examples; Jewish communists spying for the USSR. -Rosenberg, Greenglass, Oppenheimer?, etc.
Breitbart was a JINO, in name only. Actually more closely ethnically related to .. Steve Bannon and The Donald.
Not even a real Jewish mother to love him. A convert. Oh dear how sad never mind.
The real puzzle is – of the three, Trump, Bannon or Breitbart, who is the most assiduous Zionist?
The Mizrahi are really NOT ARABS.
Sephardi are not indigenous MENA Jews. They are descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and then spread north to Europe and south to the MENA.
Mizrahi like many MENA Christians are actually descendants of the original Jews who lived in the MENA centuries before both the 650AD Arab Muslim invasion and the creation of Christianity, 2,000 years ago.
In addition to Chaldeans, Assyrians, Berbers Yazidis, Zorastrians, , and Mizrahi Jews, there are plenty of groups in the MENA who are NOT ARABS but descendants of ancient indigenous people.
There are also Persian Jews, an ancient and powerful group who have lived in Persia for at least 4,000 years. They have recently invaded and conquered Beverly Hills Ca.
I know all about the Khazar theory and the Ashkenazi Jews. Why tell me about them.
People who know little about Jews, Palestine and Jewish history generally don’t know that Mizrahi Jews exist and think that they are Sephardi Jews. Like you.
Sephardi are not indigenous MENA Jews. They are descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and then spread north to Europe and south to the MENA
Please - help - good god - not another division of Jews.
All I know is that 99% of US Jews of all stripes, support Israel First - NOT America First.
Think Peace --- Art
I tried Babylon but couldn't get a translation.the most basic bit of non-PhD-level hunting & pecking, and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but this bit of reindeer poo (the deer in the 'hood are really bad this time of year) --Washington Examiner
Jamie Whinestein, contributor
July 13 - 14, 2017
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/answering-tucker-carlson-why-iran-is-a-grave-threat-to-the-us/article/2628597/commentsAnswering Tucker Carlson: Why Iran is a grave threat to the UShere's what Sam Shama wrote (pasted):A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.Michael Khattib, July 13 2017, Sam Shama Sept 20, 2017
same sameJust like reindeer poo: one steaming pile looks just like every other steaming pile.btw, neither one of you steaming piles -- not Michael nor Sam -- seems to know the difference between could and would:could, simple past tense of can, where can means
to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to:the online dictionary cautions against confusing with, or misusing for, or misinterpreting could with
would, simple past tense of will, where will means
is expected or required to:
is determined or sure to (used emphatically)Here's an example:
If I roll over that steaming pile of deer poo in the driveway I could flatten it, but I would not do that because it would leave a stain on the pavers.See the difference, Sam (and Michael)? It's about ability vs intention.-----------As for your highly insightful and erudite commentary, about "Iran not being very friendly toward USA," I had a bit of a conversation with Sebastian Gorky some months ago (before Gorky was hired then fired by the Trump). Gorky said that Iran was a threat to the USA; I suggested that Gorky look at a map and count the bases USA had surrounding Iran, then tally up the bases that Iran had on or around US territory. "What is Iran doing to USA, that USA should aim so many guns at Iran, on its own home turf," I asked SG.
Honest to god -- I have it on record -- Gorky came near to popping a blood vessel when he screamed in my face: "Iran says Death to America!"
For that reason, USA should maintain Iran in the crosshairs of 36 military bases, about which, in your cribbed view, Iran should be totally complacent.
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Well, why should we take lightly the words and intentions of you Supreme Leader and his Advisors as anything but a threat? They did say very similar things [Khomeini was exhorting his followers from Paris] months prior to taking over the U.S. embassy in ’79.
As for speaking Farsi, I do speak some [time spent in the Gulf] and Khatib’s writing is a very helpful paraphrase of what was said. You’ve got a shitty translator. That’s all. I’ve got a far better one evidently. Let me give you a direct translation :
OK. I wasn’t sure what you meant and was rather confused.
What the heavy hitters in the Zionist game may be doing is far removed from me, but I doubt they have substantial support among the rank and file.
a word about the anti-Semitism I detect here.
Uh-oh.
Peace.
Speaking about the “Muslim ban”, what do you think about it?
I understand – judging by your sarcastic comments on the origins of Trump’s Iranophobic sentiments – you feel offended by the failed ban attempt?
As I posted a long time ago...
Every nation has a right to set immigration policies it feels are best for its future. If the people of the US decided they only wanted nubile Brazilian women with certain chest and hip ratios – it is fully within their rights.
I'm not an SJW Muslim, I don't get triggered by people trying to keep Muslims out of Western countries. With the way certain Muslims behave when allowed into secular-free societies, it may actually be doing them a favor (for their spiritual well-being and afterlife) if they are kept in societies that have rules to keep their behavior in check if they are not spiritually mature enough to do it themselves.I clarified on post #211.
I'm not a fan of Trump - but that's not because I'm a Leftist - I simply have very high standards on who I am willing to support on the issue of running the country. Trump won because he's not Hillary.
Peace.
‘sokay, happens to me all the time; usually around the 3rd glass of merlot or pinot grigio.
Israeli myths
More precise information please.
Israeli myths
More precise information please.
Americans, who endorse criminal foreign policy because they are so radically misinformed
I appreciate the dispensation, but wouldn’t dis-interested be more accurate?
In what was perhaps the most clear choice in over 150 years in a Presidential election only 55% bothered.
What smokescreen? And are you aware that you appear to be complaining that st least 6 non-Jewish justices have been too weak in character or intellect to resist the persuasion of a maximum of 3 Jewish justces? Are you really that stupid?
Moreover you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the court hss long had on it 6 Catholic and 3 Jewish Justices, but no Protestants, in a country gounded by Protestants and still substsntially Pròtestant. Nothing to say?
But those Supreme Court justices were all appointed by Protestant presidents. The most anti White justice was Brennan, not a Jew. I don’t know if he was a Catholic. He wrote the infamous death sentence for Whites.
” Disproportionate representation is in and of itself clear and present evidence of discrimination”
But of course when the civil service turned 70 percent instead of 12 percent black, that wasn’t clear and present evidence of discrimination.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11771952/Two-Israelis-charged-in-arson-attack-on-Church-of-Loaves-and-Fishes.html
What a demonic homo monster. Mocking the victims of a murdering, godless pseudo-state (I agree with Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro) and displaying his Catholic faith while doing so.
Hey Wulf,
It wasn’t a “Muslim ban” – it was obviously targeted towards certain Muslim countries while exempting others. Calling it a “Muslim ban” was the Left trying to shift the parameters of the discussion.
As I posted a long time ago…
Every nation has a right to set immigration policies it feels are best for its future. If the people of the US decided they only wanted nubile Brazilian women with certain chest and hip ratios – it is fully within their rights.
I’m not an SJW Muslim, I don’t get triggered by people trying to keep Muslims out of Western countries. With the way certain Muslims behave when allowed into secular-free societies, it may actually be doing them a favor (for their spiritual well-being and afterlife) if they are kept in societies that have rules to keep their behavior in check if they are not spiritually mature enough to do it themselves.
I clarified on post #211.
I’m not a fan of Trump – but that’s not because I’m a Leftist – I simply have very high standards on who I am willing to support on the issue of running the country. Trump won because he’s not Hillary.
Peace.
Hillary lost because she was not the Grand Marshal of Salute to Israel Day Parade, 2016.
Selah.
Sephardi are not indigenous MENA Jews. They are descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and then spread north to Europe and south to the MENA.
Mizrahi like many MENA Christians are actually descendants of the original Jews who lived in the MENA centuries before both the 650AD Arab Muslim invasion and the creation of Christianity, 2,000 years ago.
In addition to Chaldeans, Assyrians, Berbers Yazidis, Zorastrians, , and Mizrahi Jews, there are plenty of groups in the MENA who are NOT ARABS but descendants of ancient indigenous people.
There are also Persian Jews, an ancient and powerful group who have lived in Persia for at least 4,000 years. They have recently invaded and conquered Beverly Hills Ca.
I know all about the Khazar theory and the Ashkenazi Jews. Why tell me about them.
People who know little about Jews, Palestine and Jewish history generally don't know that Mizrahi Jews exist and think that they are Sephardi Jews. Like you.
The Mizrahi are really NOT ARABS.
Sephardi are not indigenous MENA Jews. They are descendants of Jews who lived in Spain and then spread north to Europe and south to the MENA
Please – help – good god – not another division of Jews.
All I know is that 99% of US Jews of all stripes, support Israel First – NOT America First.
Think Peace — Art
The Occupation of the American Mind (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crY9qMIxznA
(Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
(Part 3) - [I think this really is Part 3, but with some commentary]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwGGmFy96w
Excellent documentary, RobinG. Thanks for sharing.
Here’s my favourite quote:
It was by Joseph Goebbels. Just kidding, it’s actually a quote by Israeli PM Benjamin Nutnyahoo.
I tried Babylon but couldn't get a translation.the most basic bit of non-PhD-level hunting & pecking, and what to my wondering eyes should appear, but this bit of reindeer poo (the deer in the 'hood are really bad this time of year) --Washington Examiner
Jamie Whinestein, contributor
July 13 - 14, 2017
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/answering-tucker-carlson-why-iran-is-a-grave-threat-to-the-us/article/2628597/commentsAnswering Tucker Carlson: Why Iran is a grave threat to the UShere's what Sam Shama wrote (pasted):A look at the speech reveals something ominous. What Hojjat al-Islam Mojtaba Zonour, a former advisor to the Supreme Leader’s representative to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, actually threatened was that Iran could use its missiles to destroy 36 different U.S. military bases. He singled out the U.S. Fifth Fleet headquarters in Bahrain specifically and said Iran could flatten it.Michael Khattib, July 13 2017, Sam Shama Sept 20, 2017
same sameJust like reindeer poo: one steaming pile looks just like every other steaming pile.btw, neither one of you steaming piles -- not Michael nor Sam -- seems to know the difference between could and would:could, simple past tense of can, where can means
to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to:the online dictionary cautions against confusing with, or misusing for, or misinterpreting could with
would, simple past tense of will, where will means
is expected or required to:
is determined or sure to (used emphatically)Here's an example:
If I roll over that steaming pile of deer poo in the driveway I could flatten it, but I would not do that because it would leave a stain on the pavers.See the difference, Sam (and Michael)? It's about ability vs intention.-----------As for your highly insightful and erudite commentary, about "Iran not being very friendly toward USA," I had a bit of a conversation with Sebastian Gorky some months ago (before Gorky was hired then fired by the Trump). Gorky said that Iran was a threat to the USA; I suggested that Gorky look at a map and count the bases USA had surrounding Iran, then tally up the bases that Iran had on or around US territory. "What is Iran doing to USA, that USA should aim so many guns at Iran, on its own home turf," I asked SG.
Honest to god -- I have it on record -- Gorky came near to popping a blood vessel when he screamed in my face: "Iran says Death to America!"
For that reason, USA should maintain Iran in the crosshairs of 36 military bases, about which, in your cribbed view, Iran should be totally complacent.
“… steaming reindeer poo piles, Michael and Sam.”
SolontoCroesus,
I respect your satoric words (above) and I predict Sam The Sham might return spin the image thusly,
“The amazing economic advantage inherent in reindeer droppings emote remarkably high b.t.u. value and is a fine byproduct to undergo a groundbreaking scientific Jewish ‘Fuels Blending’ process in combination with Mount Tabor-scale piles of (high octane) Siberian elk- herd dung that Sarah Palin obsequiously first observed from a Juneau-based chalet during the solar eclipse… she said, ‘Geewillikers, wait ’til McCain hears this, blah, blah, blah.”
Seriously, S2C. inflated intellectual “experts” like Sebastian Gorky never cease to amaze!
How does one possessing high IQ and a good (stilted) education engage another with similar traits, and (mindlessly) screams, “Iran says death to America!”
W.T.F.?
Everywhere one looks in The Corporate Media, an intelligent, well spoken / groomed & charismatic person appears in front of the American consumer and triumphantly tells lies.
Hundreds of shit elite media examples!
What is going on here? Methinks it boils down to the Jewish money outla and career advancement opportinity built into the lying job description. But why does affluent Sam The Sham Shama sarin gas reality? (Sigh) I know that he’s just a “bad” Hasbara hombre.
Amazing how the Bolshevik official rag spawned samizdat and now the totalitarian MSM has sprouted where we now write?
Thank you.
Lyndon Johnson was the first Jewish President as in the space of 4 years he rammed through congress the anti White civil rights law of 1964, the turd world immigration law of 1965 and the great Jewish triumph, the 1968 affirmative action law.
FDR may have been a Jewish puppet, but he did protect American White Goyim from Jewish plans to destroy us.
But in just 4 years Johnson rammed through congress the laws that are destroying us.
PLEASE - where are the Jew voices in America that do not support their tribal agenda?
There is not a whisper of defiance in the Jew community. There may be intra tribal debates – but nothing public. “American Jews” act as one.
US Jews are mostly all cowards (99%) when it comes to openly and publicly condemning anything Israel does. They fear each other – they fear their Big Jews.
Together as a tribe, US Jews terrorize any truth seeking American who questions Israel. They threaten their livelihood with anti-Semite charges.
US Jews call themselves “American Jews” because in their mind they are separate from the rest of us.
Think Peace --- Art
Reverend Mother Marcy, like all too many goyim commenters on various sites really doesn’t know much about American and Israeli Jews.
Their supreme ignorance is that a few anti Zionist Jews have any influence whatsoever on the Zionist Jews.
There are no secular or reform Jews who want to see the end of the state of Israel. A few, very very few Orthodox Jews do not approve of the state of Israel for obscure religious reasons. But most of them live in Israel, do not work and live on welfare.
So they, like the Rabbi in the video don’t want to the state of Israel go back to Palestine. You saw the Yeshiva “scholars” didn’t you? They will not do a lick of work their entire lives and neither will their wives except to collect welfare.
There are some Jews who object to the treatment of Palestinians. But 99 percent of them are totally in favor of the state of Israel.
International Jewry would have also been a good choice of words.
Are you admitting it’s not true?
Instead, on the contrary, I am stating categorically for the record, that since it IS clearly, obviously, and demonstrably TRUE, then by definition the article's title CANNOT be "deranged and bigoted", but simply... umm... True.
Did you see what I did there ?
As I posted a long time ago...
Every nation has a right to set immigration policies it feels are best for its future. If the people of the US decided they only wanted nubile Brazilian women with certain chest and hip ratios – it is fully within their rights.
I'm not an SJW Muslim, I don't get triggered by people trying to keep Muslims out of Western countries. With the way certain Muslims behave when allowed into secular-free societies, it may actually be doing them a favor (for their spiritual well-being and afterlife) if they are kept in societies that have rules to keep their behavior in check if they are not spiritually mature enough to do it themselves.I clarified on post #211.
I'm not a fan of Trump - but that's not because I'm a Leftist - I simply have very high standards on who I am willing to support on the issue of running the country. Trump won because he's not Hillary.
Peace.
Talha,
Hillary lost because she was not the Grand Marshal of Salute to Israel Day Parade, 2016.
Selah.
Peace.
Thanks for nice Bernard Lewis quote which I shall happily accept as genuine despite BL being Jewish and therefore specially liable to be subjected to fake quotes. I don’t think the Brits treated Australians as worse cannon fodder than their own in the early 20th century. Despite Churchill’s understandable ruling class preference for Imperial Indian interests over anything to do with those low class colonials lots of upper and upper middle class English men (and women) knew the young Australia and appreciated it, not least for the money they had made.
If you rely on the impression given by Peter Weir’s ?(David Williamson’s) film “Gallipoli” that it was an English officer giving the fatal order for the worst suicidal attack then you have been, like many of us, taken in by the voìce – which was not untypical of the kiñd of officer class Australian who actually gave the order. More generally, Australians and other Dominion troops tended to be physically bigger and fitter than the English and often from a rural background of familiarity with guns and observing terrain. They weren’t so much used as cannon fodder (none on the dreadful first day of the Somme I think) as chosen for the tough battles necause they were good – and all volunteers. Indeed Australia had largely managed to get its troops in France out of the clutches of inadequate professional British generals by forming a corps under Gen. John Monash whom Lloyd George wrote up in his memoirs as the general who should have become British Commander-in-Chief in 1919. (My first boss, snorted at this when I quoted it though he had known and enormously admired Monash – a quote ” any – presumably plaintiff’s – solicitor who hadn’t – pre WW1 – retained Monash as expert [engineering] witness was prima facie guilty of negligence”. Monash was the son of Prussian Jewish immigrants who went to Scotch College and built up a big civil engineering business while advancing as part time soldier. My said first boss was quite capable of making generalisations about Jews which weren’t entirely favourable but for honourable character I think he would have put Monash and Lloyd George at opposite poles, which explaìned the snort).
You have to be kidding. Of course the vile Brits used your countrymen as cannon fodder. They also used your country as a nuke test site for their atmospheric H-Bomb testing (Maralinga), blasting radioactive materials willy nilly. Your Brit masters also used your country as a nuke waste dumping ground. Sometime in the 1960s your ridiculous duly elected pols decided to switch dominatrices and became the Yank's bitch. As revealed by the falconer, Christopher Boyce, your Labor Party was completely owned by the CIA. To this day, you still supply cannon fodder and fig leaves to cover for ZUSA imperial adventures .....but at least you have not been degraded down to the level of Canada, Amerika's favorite butt boy. Cheers.....
".... our fight is to destroy ISIS first, and to get rid of Assad second." Bernie Sanders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaj7H_o11tw&app=desktop
If Sanders ever advocated a no-fly zone, you should be able to find him doing so somewhere in the public record. Of course, the reason you haven’t produced any such example is because there isn’t one. Since you were so sure that Sanders had advocated a no-fly zone, this just confirms that you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and should probably shut up forever.
As for Sanders advocating the removal of Assad through “negotiated settlement”, yes, he has advocated this, but everyone knows that he would have no power to do this unless military force was used, which Sanders opposes. So it’s meaningless boilerplate. Besides, we’re not talking about whether Sanders is great on foreign policy (I agree he isn’t), we’re talking about whether he would have been better than Trump. I think it’s clear he would be. Trump has not only, at times, talked about removing Assad, he’s actually attacked Assad with military force 6 times so far, without even Congressional approval. Sanders is pretty bad on foreign policy, but it would be hard for him to be worse than Trump.
Yes, in fact, Hillary was less hawkish on Iran. She supported (but was not enthusiastic about) the Iran deal, and in any case she would have had at least some Obama loyalists in her administration pushing her to preserve it. Trump not only apparently personally opposes the deal, but almost the entirety of his administration and party is pushing him to oppose it.
So why It cant say same to the dark donor money which has been referred to by
President Obama
Ex Sec of NATO ( W. Clarke )
And by other in relation to the shaping of American polices by Israel to Iran despite misgivings , despite clear danger, despite negative effects on America?This shows and there are thousands other littering American history from 1917 which also show the harmful effects of the influences exerted (Zionist) through donor money ,bribes, and pressure . It also shows dereliction of duties on the part of NYT.
This works well for the Zionists who would claim " Where did you hear it? Where did you see it ?. I don't believe Nobody should pay attention to anti Semitic tropes. " Then add " America is seeing resurgence of antisemitism"
Does the ideological consistency of the goyim confuse you? Why wouldn’t an ethnic-nationalist support other ethnic-nationalists? So far as I can tell, all the hostility to Israel from the right stems from the fact that “right wing,” (neoconservative) Jews have shamelessly supported ethnic-nationalism in Israel while demanding even a shadow of civic nationalism be stomped out and suppressed anywhere else. What possible problem could Zionists have with supporting whites in their own struggle to stem a brown tide of violent neighbors? Chutzpah is going to be the end of us.
Cultural Marxism is the political/social aspect of Communism. It’s Communism minus the communes.
“no biological connection” presumably refers to Arthur Koestler’s 13th Tribe almost-total-nonsense.
Why repeat old stuff rehashed by ageing anti-Semites when there is DNA evidence? According to Greg Cochran Ashkenazim are have 40 to 50+ per cent of their DNA from the ME. Some Cohens will tell you, probably correctly, that their Y chromosomes can becyraced back to 500 BC.
Why is monotheism inherently better than polytheism? Is it more or less likely to be true based on our current understanding of our universe? Part of the reason I think Yeshuanity and Mohamsterism are so screwed up is that they are both alien mythologies overlaid upon existing native mythologies – so solstices become Yeshuan holy days etc. Catholics hold some bizarre rituals like the cannibalistic eating the body of Yeshua but at least they built some interesting temples.
For those who think that the universe was created, monotheism is better than polytheism because monotheism best describes the physical universe. The universe is consistent, its rules of organization are the same everywhere.
An atom of hydrogen is the same everywhere in the universe. Logically if there were different gods then atoms of hydrogen would have different makeups.
Think Peace --- Art
Hillary lost because she was not the Grand Marshal of Salute to Israel Day Parade, 2016.
Selah.
Wow, Chuck! I did not know that – dang man – them boys got clout! I guess we can safely say all this rhetoric we here about Trumpalufagus not being sufficiently pro-Israel is bunk!
Peace.
If you rely on the impression given by Peter Weir's ?(David Williamson's) film "Gallipoli" that it was an English officer giving the fatal order for the worst suicidal attack then you have been, like many of us, taken in by the voìce - which was not untypical of the kiñd of officer class Australian who actually gave the order. More generally, Australians and other Dominion troops tended to be physically bigger and fitter than the English and often from a rural background of familiarity with guns and observing terrain. They weren't so much used as cannon fodder (none on the dreadful first day of the Somme I think) as chosen for the tough battles necause they were good - and all volunteers. Indeed Australia had largely managed to get its troops in France out of the clutches of inadequate professional British generals by forming a corps under Gen. John Monash whom Lloyd George wrote up in his memoirs as the general who should have become British Commander-in-Chief in 1919. (My first boss, snorted at this when I quoted it though he had known and enormously admired Monash - a quote " any - presumably plaintiff's - solicitor who hadn't - pre WW1 - retained Monash as expert [engineering] witness was prima facie guilty of negligence". Monash was the son of Prussian Jewish immigrants who went to Scotch College and built up a big civil engineering business while advancing as part time soldier. My said first boss was quite capable of making generalisations about Jews which weren't entirely favourable but for honourable character I think he would have put Monash and Lloyd George at opposite poles, which explaìned the snort).
Hey Wizard of Iz,
You have to be kidding. Of course the vile Brits used your countrymen as cannon fodder. They also used your country as a nuke test site for their atmospheric H-Bomb testing (Maralinga), blasting radioactive materials willy nilly. Your Brit masters also used your country as a nuke waste dumping ground. Sometime in the 1960s your ridiculous duly elected pols decided to switch dominatrices and became the Yank’s bitch. As revealed by the falconer, Christopher Boyce, your Labor Party was completely owned by the CIA. To this day, you still supply cannon fodder and fig leaves to cover for ZUSA imperial adventures …..but at least you have not been degraded down to the level of Canada, Amerika’s favorite butt boy. Cheers…..
Oh and before we reach the merry-go-round of the “anti-zionist,” Jews: Nobody who advocates nationalism for their own people is going to appreciate the ravings of communist lunatics. Whether or not those Jews are consistent in their hatred of nationalism is immaterial. Any blanket anti-nationalist is simply a genocidal maniac and that goes double for Jews as we understand what it is to be nationless.
The Occupation of the American Mind (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crY9qMIxznA
(Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
(Part 3) - [I think this really is Part 3, but with some commentary]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwGGmFy96w
not a maddow fan
His Christianity is really cuckoldry.
One G-d. No footnotes. No loopholes.
Really? How many volumes in Talmud? (The entire Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long.)
Matthew 6:24
“No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”
America loves mammon, and the Jews control mammon.
It is funny that in literature it is referred to as the European admixture while often the admixture is more than 50%. Should Ashkenazi be called Europeans with ME admixture?
Good idea, but where? Europe already has Europeans and Palestine already has Palestinians and neither want to suffer the strange influences of these strange people.
You have to be kidding. Of course the vile Brits used your countrymen as cannon fodder. They also used your country as a nuke test site for their atmospheric H-Bomb testing (Maralinga), blasting radioactive materials willy nilly. Your Brit masters also used your country as a nuke waste dumping ground. Sometime in the 1960s your ridiculous duly elected pols decided to switch dominatrices and became the Yank's bitch. As revealed by the falconer, Christopher Boyce, your Labor Party was completely owned by the CIA. To this day, you still supply cannon fodder and fig leaves to cover for ZUSA imperial adventures .....but at least you have not been degraded down to the level of Canada, Amerika's favorite butt boy. Cheers.....
I don’t normally read your posts but did read this one addressed to me. As you seem to think that mere clamorous assertion of matters you clearly no little about and your personal opinion of these is a worthwhile communication my advice may be of no effect but I do advise you to inform yourself better about matters on which you know a lot less than others before you try teaching grandmothers to suck eggs. I have actually provided answers to another commenter who thought Boyce was a witness òf truth and, like you, also misrepresented what would have followed if he had been. Your version is even wilder than most in suggesting the CIA “owned” the Labor Party. It was not the Labor Party which had Whitlam dismissed but the Libs and Nats. As for somehow being taken for a ride when covering (as did many other countries) for the imperial adventure you presumably are not aware that, while over 4000 Americans were being killed in Iraq only one Australian was – and he shot himself by accident in his bunk room!
"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."
America loves mammon, and the Jews control mammon.
Do you think “Matthew” heard correctly? As it appears in the scriptures it is rubbish. Even Jesus’s contemporaries must have been able to conceptualise timesharing and gigs….
“Selah” is a Hebrew (not “Jewish”) word signifying a break in the vocals of a song to allow for a stretch of instrumental only (typically eight bars) after which the vocals resume.
Interestingly it is used virtually exclusively in Western (the 12 “lost tribes”) music. But the word itself is most common in the Book of Psalms.
I think the tribe is Hebrew as Einstein and his contemporaries and elders might have put it. Despite the rule (since when?) of Jewishness through the mother it was originally a very patriarchal society and, in Europe it would have been skilled males and merchants marrying local wives who converted. I don’t think Christian Europeans saw them way back then as anything but foreign.
Israeli Mossad did 9/11 which started these endless wars for the Jewish state.
The British administrators of Imperial India were not likely to recuse themselves over questions involving India’s relationship with Great Britain.
There are some strong parallels here.
The British in India regarded themselves as racially superior to Indian nationals, showed a high level of ethnic solidarity, and had social systems in place to separate them from the natives, along with rewards for working in the Imperial administration (i.e. they lived in a comfortable elite bubble – with, as Ron pointed out elsewhere, a select group of Anglicized high caste native collaborators).
Imperial India was required to provide troops and funding for British wars , with trade and finance designed to benefit British interests and the Home country (Great Britain).
Natives calling for independence from Great Britain, were harassed and investigated, and faced prison as subversives, with Indian Nationalism being denounced in the British owned Indian press.
In fact the British crushed the attempt of Mahatma Gandhi and the Indian National Congress to force them to “quit India” in 1942 but they were weakened by the mass campaign and exhausted officials + the lack of sufficient troops to defeat renewed mass campaigns that eventually led them to leave.
To my mind, it’s a question of how the small Ziocon minority intend to run their US colony over the longer term (and how they plan to deal with dissent).
The bad precedents are the lethal Jewish Bolshevik dictatorships applied to Russia and Hungary, which could well be what’s on the way, and BTW which are still celebrated in books like Slezkine’s “The Jewish Century”.
Idiotic how all these anti Iran government officials and media pundits ignore that all of the radical Islamic terrorists that have attacked Europe, the USA, Southeast Asia, etc., are Sunni moslems not Shiites from Iran, or Assad’s government in Syria, or Hezbolla in Lebanon, or the Houthies in Yemen. And most of these terrorist Sunnies are Wahabbi. ISIS is Wahabbi. Wahabbism is the state sanctioned religion of Saudi Arabia. Yet Iran is branded as “the leading state sponsor of radical Islamic terrorism” and we do hundreds of millions of dollars in military spending with Saudi Arabia who really deserves that label.
Those non Jews are the worst. Those are the “unsullied slaves” of the Zionists. Any dirty work a Zionist doesn’t want to get his hands in, he’ll command these goyim slaves to do it. Why fight and risk your life, your wealth, your greed when you have all these slave soldiers happy and proud to die for you, steal for you, and pay all expenses, and pimp your women (Hollywood, Porn Industry, Sex slaves, and brothels). The cuck general will assist the Jewy Zionists in achieving this ” honorable ” mission
These are people who proudly and publicly have sworn allegiance with the Zionists state. US is just their plantation
A. Onward Christian Soldiers
It’s not just ‘the Jews’ folks, there’s a much bigger picture:
The CFR and the Media: https://cfrmedia.com
Not all Jews, not even in Israel itself, are Zionists. There’s even a fair number of Jewish non-Zionists in the US. To blame them for this situation is silly and unjust. Here’s an Israeli Jewish Anti-Zionist site: https://972mag.com Quite a few others exist, in Israel and in the US.
First, the above picture of Kristol brilliantly captures the smugness (see his perpetual smile) of the American Jews who are in control of the U.S. and very well know it.
Secondly, American Jews, by and large, don't fight in the American wars they instigate. Their presence in the American armed services, percentage wise, is far below their percent representation in the general population. Their representation in combat arms is even more dismal, but, there's plenty of Jewish doctors and lawyers in the service.
I signed induction papers to become a Marine enlisted man in 1972 and was discharged honorably as an officer in late 1979, almost 8 years of service in the infantry. I met 10's of thousands of Marines during those years...but met only one Jewish infantry officer and absolutely no Jewish enlisted men.
It's hard to remain objective about them given these things.
I'm delighted that Philip had the courage to write what many of us already think about them...they're cowards, have dual-loyalties and cannot be depended upon to do anything useful for America but fleece us and advance the interests of what Charles De Gaul called "That shitty little country", Israel.
You are more likely to find that those jews who embrace military service do not advocate AMERICAN military service, despite American support for Israel.
Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel recently bragged about his offspring joining the IDF. I guess the U S military was not good enough.
THIS is a prime example of how dual nationality and citizenship of the jew will NEVER be used to benefit the American jew’s host country…the USA.
Dual citizenship must be abolished. Those who refuse to give up their dual citizenship should be summarily deported–no exceptions…
Any American who serves in a foreign country’s military should lose American citizenship…no exceptions
There are some strong parallels here.
The British in India regarded themselves as racially superior to Indian nationals, showed a high level of ethnic solidarity, and had social systems in place to separate them from the natives, along with rewards for working in the Imperial administration (i.e. they lived in a comfortable elite bubble - with, as Ron pointed out elsewhere, a select group of Anglicized high caste native collaborators).
Imperial India was required to provide troops and funding for British wars , with trade and finance designed to benefit British interests and the Home country (Great Britain).
Natives calling for independence from Great Britain, were harassed and investigated, and faced prison as subversives, with Indian Nationalism being denounced in the British owned Indian press.
In fact the British crushed the attempt of Mahatma Gandhi and the Indian National Congress to force them to “quit India” in 1942 but they were weakened by the mass campaign and exhausted officials + the lack of sufficient troops to defeat renewed mass campaigns that eventually led them to leave.
To my mind, it's a question of how the small Ziocon minority intend to run their US colony over the longer term (and how they plan to deal with dissent).
The bad precedents are the lethal Jewish Bolshevik dictatorships applied to Russia and Hungary, which could well be what's on the way, and BTW which are still celebrated in books like Slezkine's "The Jewish Century".
Interesting and compelling parallel. Sadly, as with the British case, it will take a major calamity (economic depression and war) to break the empire.
Hay they know that all too well. But then again they also work for them whenever “moderate rebels” are needed in the middle east. So you can’t punish people who do your own bidding now do you
Plus the Saudis are on rather warm terms with the Israelis and we all know how much the US and the west kisses Zionist ass. In fact, ‘Prince’ Salman recently said he wants to establish brotherly relations with Israel (https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170918-saudi-plan-to-accept-israel-as-a-brotherly-state/). Now that seals their safety in the west (at least for the moment). So no, nothing is gonna happen to them from the west. No not happening
It isn’t they aren’t aware but they want it that way. Those terrorist ‘incidents’ in the west help too! In passing draconian laws that would rather be difficult to pass otherwise
In a few years there won’t be any ‘free’ internet either. They would ban or try to control that as well. You know, for ‘national security’ as well as to ban ‘hate speech’. Alreaady happening on FB. You can bet money on that and win
The United States has never been threatened militarily, and probably not economically for that matter, ever, by any foreign power, except Israel.
Every one of it’s wars has been waged under fake threats and false pretexts.
I have not read all 436 comments, so I don’t know if this issue has been addressed, but I must say that it appear to me extremely important to distinguish “Jews” from violent Zionists with control issues.
Most Jews are no worse than any others, while most modern Zionists seem to be the big problem.
Ethically, philosophically, and practically it makes no more sense to bash all Jews than it does to bash all Muslims.
In a practical sense, we goyim would do well to avoid rejecting all Jews for the very simple reason that the ethical, honest and intelligent ones are a huge force against the nutcase violent Zionists and Israel firsters.Also, it makes no sense whatsoever to disperse our energy struggling against the good guys while it makes sense to target and marginalize the key culprits such as the troublemakers named in the article. I suspect that all it would take would be to isolate and defang a relative few and it wouldn’t be long before the rest of us could enjoy a little peace.
Unfortunately, it takes continuous effort to suppress the goof balls who sprout at every opportunity like mushrooms after a rain on a compost pile, and most goyim don’t get that, so we’re screwed outta the gate.
The violent Zionists and Israel firsters are no doubt as big a threat to ethical Jews as they are to the goyim, and this has been recognized by the perceptive ones since the first rumblings of Zionist agitation over a century ago.
When one feels a little guilty, you start to think up counter-arguments and defenses: instead of saying, ie. "It was totally wrong to write that ALL Jews must be made to feel uncomfortable," I try to defend it, parse it, point out its rationality.
Best I could come up with is the experience of joining J-Street in its very earliest days. I went to the local temple to organizing meeting, attended training sessions, practiced media presentations, planned & hosted interfaith events -- the works. Then J Street grew - phenomenally -- and became AIPAC lighte. J-Street co-sponsored, with ZOA and AIPAC, the Iran Task Force, whose mission was to take down Iran economically. So from my perspective, I had been seduced to join in solidarity (god I hate that word) with the "good guys" who were, in my hope, going to counter the efforts of the "bad guys" who were threatening Iran, against the best interests of MY primary interest, the USA. But in fact, J-Street was merely the back bench.
How do you know who the "good Jews" are?
After that painful lesson w/ J-Street, I took my advocacy efforts straight to pro-Iran groups (carefully vetted -- MEK has "Iran" attached to it, but MEK seeks to destroy Iran.) I became active with groups that organized and prepared activists to lobby Congress in support of the JCPOA. We had arranged a final meeting before our scheduled visit to Capitol Hill. A Jewish guy appeared at that meeting and more or less commandeered it; he knew more about what we were doing than we did; he pretended to support our activism, got everyone talking freely, got everyone slobbering all over Jews and their rights to defensible borders etc etc etc, then, in effect, he pulled off his shirt and displayed his SuperJew loyalty: "Your efforts will fail," he assured us. "And if JCPOA does pass, it will still be a benefit to Israel, because Israel will then have access to Iran's nuclear secrets."
In other words, how do you know who the "good Jews" are?
I no longer contribute my support "in solidarity" with Jewish groups of any stripe.
I think it's time we non-Jewish Americans stood up and claimed America for Americans; it's time for US to organize and infiltrate and speak out as boldly and as forcefully as Jewish groups do.
I typed this -- but I'm not sure about it ---> if Jews wish not to be marginalized and targeted as members of the "bad Jews" cohort, then they will have to give their support to OUR efforts and OUR organizations.
I'm not sure about it because I have witnessed infiltrators -- I participated in a seminar planned and hosted by Muslims in my community, with the goal of making Islam known to non-Muslim members of the community. A break-out session was arranged so that small groups could talk with a practicing Muslim. The "Muslim" woman assigned to my small group was dressed in long robe, hair covered, etc. As the conversation progressed she revealed that she was born & raised in a Jewish family, converted to Christianity, now converted again to Islam. iow, a spy, an infiltrator. damn it.
re your statement:Really? How's that working out so far (where "so far" means the last century or so)?
I talk to far more Iranians (non-Jewish) who argue that the Iranian people and Israelis/Jews are age-old friends and should be so again, than I hear of Jews who argue that Israel and Iran should renew their age-old friendship. I suspect this is so because the Jews who run Israel, or at least the ideological basis for the form of zionism that dominates Israel (from its earliest Jabotinskyite days until today) are mostly of Eastern European origin: they are NOT majority Iranian Jews (I'd hazard a guess that there are more Iranian Jews in Los Angeles than in Israel).
Israel's leaders -- and American Jewish "trouble makers" are, similarly, not German Jews, not Sephardic or Mizrahi, they are East European Jews (although those Tehrangeles Jews ARE among the trouble-maker class: Ed Royce, Eliot Engel, Brad Sherman, Diane Feinstein, even Pelosi dance to their tune. They behave as would be expected of an expatriated group who may have lost wealth or possessions or status upon leaving Iran -- compare them to exiled Cubans who resent like hell being dispossessed of their gambling enclaves and sugar plantations, etc.); they're from Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus. Their orientation to things Jewish is Talmudic; their long history in Poland is extremely important to understand inasmuch as it influenced their ways of being-in-the-world, which they brought to Israel AND TO USA; their worldview is inflected by Heinrich Graetz's version of Jewish history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeRpiVQ-9YAgree wholeheartedly.You are more optimistic than I.
My tendency is to start by learning all that can be gleaned about the topic ('zionism' may be the broadest topic in all of modern history, inasmuch as zionists/Jews inhabited in and adapted from at least a dozen cultures).
Our next step, as non-Jewish Americans seeking to "enjoy a little peace" ought to be to summon the courage to speak the truth in love (not squishy sentimentality but with love that is manly integrity, preparing the world for our children & grandchildren). Host lectures in your church and library, your living room and local newspaper. Share what you have learned: I believe people are eager to be well-informed.
This packet of information about the American Jewish Congress might serve as an aid to identifying, "isolating and defanging" those "relative few . . ."
http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=365446
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jewish_Congress#Ms._Magazine
If someone is just, like, helping out a mensch, and it so ends up contributing, even in a small way, to seditious conspiracy?
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2015240What if there was an embedded cultural norm to always favour the perceived 'in-tribe'?How would you differentiate?If you drew the line at the US Federal Law 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115, how many would qualify as "bad"?The volume would likely cause the Federal court system to implode, even if a large percentage of the workers in the system were not on trial.
Dude: You really need to provide a cogent and reasonable definition anti-Semitism. Otherwise I suggest that you take your own advice regarding psychiatric help.
Better question.:
When shall we stop paying attention this oft-repeated, “Imminent! Iran is an Existential Threat” trope?
The evil empire sustains itself primarily through this attitude of its people. It does not matter how the Jews connive to shape it. Only thing that matters is that they buy into it without exercising their conscience.
Americans, remember, such glory has a cost. You will find soon enough that a cancerous soul is too high a price to be "Top Nation," for essentially a blink in cosmic time.
That certainly is a key problem, but American goyim also appear not to give much of a rat’s tuschie about the sewage pumped into their brains by the mass media and the schooling systems either, nor do they seem to care about funding the enemy in every way possible such as staying ignorant about the federal reserve and corporate bailouts, supporting taxes that invariably flow directly into the hands of real enemies, assuming debt to buy glittering useless junk, and supporting churches that support the state from the pulpit and stage, to name just some other ways the goyim stay ignorant and support their own demise.
Thank you for another interesting article, that so, so few people are willing to enter the discussion, publically, anyways.
In line with that, I am quite curious as to why you are allowed to ‘get away with it?
…. but perhaps another time…
Your headline is interesting, using the word “recuse”:
Shouldn’t they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?
It is refreshing to find a word at this stage of my reading and writing career that I either don’t know, or know so little about. For me, it first came to (renewed) awareness with the Jeff Sessions involvement in the “Russia” inquiries.
At dictionary.com we get, “2. to withdraw from a position of judging so as to avoid any semblance of partiality or bias.”
But it seems to denote that the subject of the recusing, would qualify for the position, otherwise?!
I don’t think this is the case with U.S.A. policy in the Middle East, specifically.
As a matter of fact, the condition of performing duties, for the U.S. government, under oath, but actually performing those duties with the primary interest that of a different, independent political faction and/or nation-state is well covered in the U.S. Constitution, and under U.S. Federal Law; one place it can be seen is at this link:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115
18 U.S. Code Chapter 115 – TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
18 U.S. Code § 2381 – Treason: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)”
18 U.S. Code § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy:
“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, § 1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)”
It seems quite straight-forward under U.S. Federal law that persons who will not work in the best interests of (all/majority of) the people of the United States of America, on Middle East affairs, or anything else, all fit into the same category for treatment under the existing law, they do NOT qualify for positions in the U.S. government, and may not qualify for citizenship in the U.S.A..
Am I missing something?
Hey, Wizard of Iz: Liar. You read every one of them. You failed to address the use of your country as a pommie nuke test site and dumping ground. Humble nsa knows (note the spelling) whereof he speaks……graduated Melbourne High School back when Australia sensibly accepted only white immigrants and disdained their pushy jooies. Your pommie pals sure took a beating during breaks…….and the meat pies were inedible.
Most Jews are no worse than any others, while most modern Zionists seem to be the big problem.
Ethically, philosophically, and practically it makes no more sense to bash all Jews than it does to bash all Muslims.
In a practical sense, we goyim would do well to avoid rejecting all Jews for the very simple reason that the ethical, honest and intelligent ones are a huge force against the nutcase violent Zionists and Israel firsters.Also, it makes no sense whatsoever to disperse our energy struggling against the good guys while it makes sense to target and marginalize the key culprits such as the troublemakers named in the article. I suspect that all it would take would be to isolate and defang a relative few and it wouldn't be long before the rest of us could enjoy a little peace.
Unfortunately, it takes continuous effort to suppress the goof balls who sprout at every opportunity like mushrooms after a rain on a compost pile, and most goyim don't get that, so we're screwed outta the gate.
The violent Zionists and Israel firsters are no doubt as big a threat to ethical Jews as they are to the goyim, and this has been recognized by the perceptive ones since the first rumblings of Zionist agitation over a century ago.
You make many good points, jacques, & I confess to being a tad chastened.
When one feels a little guilty, you start to think up counter-arguments and defenses: instead of saying, ie. “It was totally wrong to write that ALL Jews must be made to feel uncomfortable,” I try to defend it, parse it, point out its rationality.
Best I could come up with is the experience of joining J-Street in its very earliest days. I went to the local temple to organizing meeting, attended training sessions, practiced media presentations, planned & hosted interfaith events — the works. Then J Street grew – phenomenally — and became AIPAC lighte. J-Street co-sponsored, with ZOA and AIPAC, the Iran Task Force, whose mission was to take down Iran economically. So from my perspective, I had been seduced to join in solidarity (god I hate that word) with the “good guys” who were, in my hope, going to counter the efforts of the “bad guys” who were threatening Iran, against the best interests of MY primary interest, the USA. But in fact, J-Street was merely the back bench.
How do you know who the “good Jews” are?
After that painful lesson w/ J-Street, I took my advocacy efforts straight to pro-Iran groups (carefully vetted — MEK has “Iran” attached to it, but MEK seeks to destroy Iran.) I became active with groups that organized and prepared activists to lobby Congress in support of the JCPOA. We had arranged a final meeting before our scheduled visit to Capitol Hill. A Jewish guy appeared at that meeting and more or less commandeered it; he knew more about what we were doing than we did; he pretended to support our activism, got everyone talking freely, got everyone slobbering all over Jews and their rights to defensible borders etc etc etc, then, in effect, he pulled off his shirt and displayed his SuperJew loyalty: “Your efforts will fail,” he assured us. “And if JCPOA does pass, it will still be a benefit to Israel, because Israel will then have access to Iran’s nuclear secrets.”
In other words, how do you know who the “good Jews” are?
I no longer contribute my support “in solidarity” with Jewish groups of any stripe.
I think it’s time we non-Jewish Americans stood up and claimed America for Americans; it’s time for US to organize and infiltrate and speak out as boldly and as forcefully as Jewish groups do.
I typed this — but I’m not sure about it —> if Jews wish not to be marginalized and targeted as members of the “bad Jews” cohort, then they will have to give their support to OUR efforts and OUR organizations.
I’m not sure about it because I have witnessed infiltrators — I participated in a seminar planned and hosted by Muslims in my community, with the goal of making Islam known to non-Muslim members of the community. A break-out session was arranged so that small groups could talk with a practicing Muslim. The “Muslim” woman assigned to my small group was dressed in long robe, hair covered, etc. As the conversation progressed she revealed that she was born & raised in a Jewish family, converted to Christianity, now converted again to Islam. iow, a spy, an infiltrator. damn it.
re your statement:
Really? How’s that working out so far (where “so far” means the last century or so)?
I talk to far more Iranians (non-Jewish) who argue that the Iranian people and Israelis/Jews are age-old friends and should be so again, than I hear of Jews who argue that Israel and Iran should renew their age-old friendship. I suspect this is so because the Jews who run Israel, or at least the ideological basis for the form of zionism that dominates Israel (from its earliest Jabotinskyite days until today) are mostly of Eastern European origin: they are NOT majority Iranian Jews (I’d hazard a guess that there are more Iranian Jews in Los Angeles than in Israel).
Israel’s leaders — and American Jewish “trouble makers” are, similarly, not German Jews, not Sephardic or Mizrahi, they are East European Jews (although those Tehrangeles Jews ARE among the trouble-maker class: Ed Royce, Eliot Engel, Brad Sherman, Diane Feinstein, even Pelosi dance to their tune. They behave as would be expected of an expatriated group who may have lost wealth or possessions or status upon leaving Iran — compare them to exiled Cubans who resent like hell being dispossessed of their gambling enclaves and sugar plantations, etc.); they’re from Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus. Their orientation to things Jewish is Talmudic; their long history in Poland is extremely important to understand inasmuch as it influenced their ways of being-in-the-world, which they brought to Israel AND TO USA; their worldview is inflected by Heinrich Graetz’s version of Jewish history
Agree wholeheartedly.
You are more optimistic than I.
My tendency is to start by learning all that can be gleaned about the topic (‘zionism’ may be the broadest topic in all of modern history, inasmuch as zionists/Jews inhabited in and adapted from at least a dozen cultures).
Our next step, as non-Jewish Americans seeking to “enjoy a little peace” ought to be to summon the courage to speak the truth in love (not squishy sentimentality but with love that is manly integrity, preparing the world for our children & grandchildren). Host lectures in your church and library, your living room and local newspaper. Share what you have learned: I believe people are eager to be well-informed.
This packet of information about the American Jewish Congress might serve as an aid to identifying, “isolating and defanging” those “relative few . . .”
http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=365446
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jewish_Congress#Ms._Magazine
Thanks for the ton of info, particularly for the news of the infiltrators, the phony organizations,and the links.
I'm happy to hear confirmation of my suspicion that the Zios are going to great lengths trying to BS the masses. I think it'll all turn out to be wasted effort but it'll be a while before their whole house of BS comes toppling down because even the professionals that I hang out with are completely brainwashed and cucked out. The ignorance is astounding and will not vanish for while, at least as long as they are kept fat and happy.I know quite a few people from that area, and I would agree with you that the bunch you've singled out is particularly violent, opinionated and belligerent.
Anyway, I'm neither a bible scholar nor thumper, but I do find Isaiah full of astonishing things, and there is no doubt that history will repeat, and the day will come when they'll get what's coming to them, which is what they dish out to the goyim every chance they get. Also, as for knowing who the good ones are, it's the old deal about identifying a tree by the fruit it bears.
I'm off to check your links.
Bless you, and thanks for being here and offering fine comments.
You flatter yourself. I can’t even remember what kind of derangement I saw in your posts which made me give up reading them. Your anti-Semitic reference vaguely reminds me. I presume you don’t live in Australia now and have become obsessed by the much stronger Jewish lobbies of North America.
You daft racists.
If, as you say, it’s all about money and influence over our elected officials, then take the god damned money out of politics! Are you a fan or foe of Citizens United? Cut those strings and then let’s see about how much influence “wealthy American Jews” have over wars. I am American, Jewish and NOT A FAN of picking fights to protect Israel. But alas, I am not wealthy so my voice is limited to this platform. Put your money where mouths are. If you care that much and this isn’t just veiled antisemitism, work to level the playing field. Start by speaking out against the greatest threat to our safety and sovereignty- the ability that private wealthy citizens have to disproportionally influence politics. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe the Koch bros are Jewish!
Is there a law against not liking Jews?OH -- why, yes there is.
Unlike the Kochs, Jews have special protections from people who might call out Jews who do what are thought to be evil deeds.
How did that come about? How did Jews get to be a privileged group to the extent that there is a special office that sniffs under toilet seats and into medicine cabinets to discover any whiff of antisemitism?do you suppose some people might think special privileges for Jews and no one else flies in the face of US Constitutional principles?
the problem isn't David Geffen and his millions. The problem is that from the length and breath of our media to the Wall Street banks to the universities to the courts to even our Supreme Court, the ill-gotten lucre looted from our Treasury is used as a weapon against us, to corrupt and corrode our institutions; the very institutions we all depend on to inform and educate us all.
and that's why there are so many Jews sitting on our courts
lurking in our universities
slithering on Wall Street and using their poodles like Bubba to hand Robert Rubin the keys to the Treasury and kill Glass–Steagall so they can loot near infinite truck loads of our hard-earned wealth all to themselves. And then use that wealth to further corrupt our politicians and create a circle of theft and villainy that is seems only a proverbial 'strong man' can save us from.
perhaps the thieves at the Fed will decide they've looted enough lucre and exerted enough nefarious power over the lives of others, that they'll decide on their own to hand over power and the coining of our currency back to the representatives of the republic, who'll return to governing for the sake of a principled and moral standing in the world. But I'm not holding my breath.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ValeriePlame/status/910884546723196929
The pearl-clutching is next-level.
I tried to read Giraldi’s article on the computer of a hotel business center, and it was blocked, as were articles by the Saker and Israel Shamir…
I KNEW the Koch brothers would be mentioned!
Bernie Sanders scarcely made a speech without blasting the Kochs, but I don’t recall him hinting at the excessive wealth/power wielded by Haim Saban or Adelson.
When you bother to think about it, you realize that Jews arrived in USA with more wealth and more educational attainment –courtesy of their former host countries — than any other immigrant group. Phil Weiss one wrote a column expressing his “gratitude to Jewish bankers” who helped his family and so many others get a jump-start.
So why bash the Kochs — they made their money the hard way, they earned it, employing thousands in the process and committed to American interests and USA inside the global community. You got a problem with that?
If you can bash the Kochs, so what if others are antisemitic?
Is there a law against not liking Jews?
OH — why, yes there is.
Unlike the Kochs, Jews have special protections from people who might call out Jews who do what are thought to be evil deeds.
How did that come about? How did Jews get to be a privileged group to the extent that there is a special office that sniffs under toilet seats and into medicine cabinets to discover any whiff of antisemitism?
do you suppose some people might think special privileges for Jews and no one else flies in the face of US Constitutional principles?
This was another fine piece by Mr. Giraldi. The thing I liked best is that the author used the word “Jews” several times.
What amazes me, though is the number of comments. This has to be a record, at least for as long as I’ve read the Unz Review.
I’d say a showdown is very near.
Even if this is all true, so what? Threatened with extinction, what would you do differently?
Is there a law against not liking Jews?OH -- why, yes there is.
Unlike the Kochs, Jews have special protections from people who might call out Jews who do what are thought to be evil deeds.
How did that come about? How did Jews get to be a privileged group to the extent that there is a special office that sniffs under toilet seats and into medicine cabinets to discover any whiff of antisemitism?do you suppose some people might think special privileges for Jews and no one else flies in the face of US Constitutional principles?
Thanks as always Solon – and I might also point out that the Koch Brothers support and anti-interventionist foreign policy, quite the reverse from the Jewish groups and individuals that I have identified!
But comparing globalism and zionism is like comparing Republicans to Catholics or southern blacks to democrats. There's a lot of overlap, of course, but it ain't necessarily so. The comparison is kinda silly if you asked me.
I'll bet you $20 that when the final showdown happens, neither the Koch's nor Sheldon Adelson will turn their backs on the zionists.
For now, though, they like their money a lot more than their so-called "religion".
"McMaster also repeatedly brushed off Israel's concerns about Hezbollah, at one point yelling at the Israeli delegation, which included Mossad chief Yossi Cohen, the Israel Defense Forces Military Intelligence head Maj. Gen. Herzl Halevi, and Zohar Palti, who heads the Defense Ministry's political-security department."
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235466
Report: McMaster says Hezbollah not a terror group
It seems on the right, the Paleocons and Paleolibertarians have balanced foreign policy views (there might be some smaller groups too).
Shame that the Neocons kicked them out after the Reagan years.
Wont comment too much about the left, but some of them have normal foreign policy view,
though modern liberalism is interventionist and mixed with neoconsertavism. (clintons, etc).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8FlJy62Y8
Your anti semetic rhetoric for profit is disgusting. If you believe 10% of what you are stating I would be surprised, especially since I analyzed your movements and body language!
Its laughable that society still has haters against the Jews when they are less than 1% of the population. So stop trying to motivate the troops for your own political and financial gains, because you are the lowest form of life, lower than defecation on the bottom of the ocean!
This Little Jew is very naive – he thinks he can terrorize us with the “anti-Semite” charge and that we all fall for the “six million lie.”
The Stockholm Syndrome attack is losing its punch.
His Big Jews need to give him new instructions.
Think Peace --- Art
I just HATE self-serving Semitics, who feel they have some special right to violate the divine free will of other human beings (e.g. "Let's commit cold-blooded acts of serial-terror, and blame it on someone else!").
BTW, what's a "semetic?"
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2013/11/08/18/NewYork-epa.jpg
Is there a law against not liking Jews?OH -- why, yes there is.
Unlike the Kochs, Jews have special protections from people who might call out Jews who do what are thought to be evil deeds.
How did that come about? How did Jews get to be a privileged group to the extent that there is a special office that sniffs under toilet seats and into medicine cabinets to discover any whiff of antisemitism?do you suppose some people might think special privileges for Jews and no one else flies in the face of US Constitutional principles?
Your comments truly reflect the hatred in your heart for individuals who have added many attributes to this great nation, including financing the birth of the USA. so you can talk out of your sphincter all you want, but the reality is you are hate filled individual who pretends to be some sort of priest by wearing a black cloak and crosses that you probably purchased in a flea market because no god fearing man other than Mr. T would wear that many necklaces because it reflects your values are not from the heart, unless of course your heart and soul are blackened by the evil from w/in!
So, Jews financed white supremacist imperialism, conquest, genocide, and slave trade?
At last, a wonderful, truthful article recognizing the facts about which no-one may speak unless they have giant balls of brass. You must be so endowed.
Well spoken indeed.
I hope your being sarcastic, otherwise you must have a brain the size of a pea!
No doubt with your giant heavyweight brain you are totally comfortable with Jewish oversight. Others, less so, and little to do with peas or other insulting comments.
Why is monotheism inherently better than polytheism? Is it more or less likely to be true based on our current understanding of our universe?
For those who think that the universe was created, monotheism is better than polytheism because monotheism best describes the physical universe. The universe is consistent, its rules of organization are the same everywhere.
An atom of hydrogen is the same everywhere in the universe. Logically if there were different gods then atoms of hydrogen would have different makeups.
Think Peace — Art
Tucker Carlson needs to have Phil Giraldi on this discuss this article. Let’s start the petition!
Silly article. Israeli military and intelligence community pleaded with Bush not to attack Iraq as its demise would elevate the region’s real threat – Iran. Of course Jews are always the cause of the world’s problems to anti-Semites. Imagine a world without Jews. No conflict. No North Korea angst. No Russian oppression. Turkey would be lame and tame. Iran would cow-tow to the world. Stupid premise. Really.
But Israeli intelligence didn't share what it knew about 9/11 hijackers whom the Israelis had been tracking.
Also, there is no single Israeli voice. Jews hedge their bets by playing good cop-bad cop.
It's like the Iran Deal. Some in Israeli Intelligence backed it but Netanyahu denounced it.
At any rate, American Jews, not Israeli Jews, hold the real ace cards.
Bush's Neocon madness could have been derailed if the Liberal Zionist media had used their power against it. But they chose to support the neocons. And they cheered Obama's war-making policies.
That seems to be the opinion of many, that globalists and zionists are two distinct groups. Mike King is another who shares your view.
But comparing globalism and zionism is like comparing Republicans to Catholics or southern blacks to democrats. There’s a lot of overlap, of course, but it ain’t necessarily so. The comparison is kinda silly if you asked me.
I’ll bet you $20 that when the final showdown happens, neither the Koch’s nor Sheldon Adelson will turn their backs on the zionists.
For now, though, they like their money a lot more than their so-called “religion”.
The pearl-clutching is next-level.
Uh oh, Unz.com will be targeted for domain-doom… just like gab.
Israeli military and intelligence community pleaded with Bush not to attack Iraq as its demise would elevate the region’s real threat – Iran
But Israeli intelligence didn’t share what it knew about 9/11 hijackers whom the Israelis had been tracking.
Also, there is no single Israeli voice. Jews hedge their bets by playing good cop-bad cop.
It’s like the Iran Deal. Some in Israeli Intelligence backed it but Netanyahu denounced it.
At any rate, American Jews, not Israeli Jews, hold the real ace cards.
Bush’s Neocon madness could have been derailed if the Liberal Zionist media had used their power against it. But they chose to support the neocons. And they cheered Obama’s war-making policies.
including financing the birth of the USA.
So, Jews financed white supremacist imperialism, conquest, genocide, and slave trade?
Goebbels couldn’t express it better. According to Giraldi’s philosophy, it was a great pitty that America followed the jewish credo and fought against symbols of morality such as Nazi Germany, U.S.S.R, Comunist China, Hussein’s Iraq, El Qaida, ISIS and now possibly Iran and North Korea. What a cosmic paradise and heaven on earth America had lost by subordinating itself the subversive Jews who just happened to be on wrong side and against those pure angels adored by Philip Giraldi and his followers.
Groups from AIPAC to the state of Israel pay for rooms full of professional trolls to make sure that this opinion is pasted onto anyone who doesn't agree that we should send all our money to Israel as well as our children to die for Israel.
To bad Morgan Freeman didn't make a video about "War with Israel", which has done far more to meddle and interfere with American politics and government. How many candidates travel to Israel to do fund-raising? Many is the answer.
sham-selectively.
In the past, Wasp Military Industrial Complex was most responsible for US military involvements.
Today, much of US foreign policy revolves around Jewish neurosis since Jews are in top positions.
Should the US, which is 98% gentile, be so slavish to Jewish interests? Now, if Israel is all about Jewish interests, that is understandable since it is a Jewish state that serves Jewish power.
But when 98% of Americans who are not Jewish are supposed to serve Jewish interests in world affairs, that's nuts. It's like Hindus being forced to serve British interests than their own during the Age of Empire. Brits told Hindus that they are part of the Glorious British Empire and that their first loyalty must be to the King or Queen of Britain. But why? We don't have to admire Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and etc. The thing is they are NOT 'New Nazis', and they pose no threat to us. Jews hate them because they are either a rival of Israel(esp Iran) or because they represent national sovereignty when so much of the world is now under the hegemony of Jewish-Homo hegemony. Also, Jewish Power gains from the clash of titans. If gentiles are bashing and hating one another, Jews can do yojimbo and work all sides against one another. Jews pose as friends to all of them while pitting all sides against each other. Notice how Netanyahu plays both Putin and the US. Because of the Holocaust-as-religion, it is taboo for ANY nation to badmouth Jews. So, all sides seek support of Jews. Even people who are attacked by Jews have to pay protection money to Jews. Russia does this all the time. Russia is the main target of Jewish ire, but Putin has to work with Jews to reduce the vitriol. Jewish venom against Russia knows no bounds, but Russians have to be very nice to Jews.
If you're a banker, you want to lend money to both sides. While they bash each other, they need your money. Also, if you don't want the people to come after your kind, you have to make the people hate other people. As long as dumb Americans are made to hate Russians, Iranians, Chinese, Syrians, Venezuelans, North Koreans, Cubans, Libyans, and etc. they have no time to ponder WHO has the real Power.
Did your dad run off with a Jewish woman or something? Spike Lee’s dad did so I understand his anti-Semitism.
Giraldi on Freud’s couch. ROTFL.
Same people. Same envy of others who they know are superior to them.
“Neocon is just another way of saying Bolshevik. ”
I’ll believe that the first time I hear a neocon call for the nationalization of a bank. That’s the sort of thing a real Bolshevik would call for. Neocon’s instead get checks from bankers, which puts them on the entirely opposite side of things.
(In the linked talk, Ledeen waxes eloquent on how Bridge players make great leaders and businessmen, while Chess players frequently fail at leadership and business.)
It's interesting that the Medici used their banking wealth to support great artists who created extraordinary art that still inspires the world.
Cayne/Ledeen, on the other hand, left behind destruction and aesthetic degradation.
Wow. It was difficult to finish reading this disgusting anti-Semitic story. What a complete smear of an entire religion. You clearly have no understanding of how organizations like AIPAC generates the grassroots support of Jews and many non-Jews. I do because I’ve been deeply involved with them for decades.
Regarding Iran, it almost comedy when you claim that this conflict would be for Israel and American Jews. Why? Well, let’s start with the “death to America” chant coming from Iranian leaders and the IRG. Then let’s recall the Americans, non-Jews no doubt, illegally kidnapped by Iran. Then let’s recall all the American military patriots who were maimed and murdered by Iranian IED’s. Then let’s go back to the bombing of American embassy’s around the world that Iran is behind. Then let’s recall the Marine baracks bombed in Lebanon. And finally, let’s recall the American hostages held by Iran for 444 days after they took over our embassy in Tehran.
But, yeah, I guess you’re right……it’s the Jews fault. It’s always the Jews fault. Got it.
What reaction would anyone have for such a dirty game.
Blame the patriotic Lebanese Why turn on Iran for every failure our government make and blame a country that has been under direct and indirect attack since they broke the chains of bondage. Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, Al Shabab, ISIS, all caused by Iran? What about USS Liberty, Polard, Rosenbergs , Netanyahu, Lieberman , Cardin.......it'll take an encyclopedia to list them all.
Is there a real "reason " to make Iran our enemy? Really?
How about recalling the toppling of the Shah?
Do you recall that the US shot down Iranian passenger airliner 655, which was in Iranian territory?
How'z about recalling the continuous provocation and threats against Iran including economic sanctions ( a prelude to war), by the US and Israel?
I'm sure if you tried hard you could do some recalling, no?
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business".
This even became known as "The Ledeen Doctrine"; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable "small crappy little country". If so, he is very badly mistaken.
“Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business”.
This is not possible without White Submissivism to Jewish Globalism.
That’s why Jews freaked out about Charlottesville.
Charlottesville called for White Liberation/Independence from Globalism.
Without Whites serving as attack dogs and drone bees, Jewish Power will wilt…. just like British Power in India wilted when the People of Dot pushed for Indian Disobedience.
Charlottesville was about Ethno-Disobedience against Globalism.
White Disobedience will be the most revolutionary force in the world. The Uncuckening.
And of course, anyone who argues against America’s foreign policy being devoted to the interests of a foreign power is a nasty anti-semite who hates Israel. Typical and Predictable and by this point quite boring.
Groups from AIPAC to the state of Israel pay for rooms full of professional trolls to make sure that this opinion is pasted onto anyone who doesn’t agree that we should send all our money to Israel as well as our children to die for Israel.
To bad Morgan Freeman didn’t make a video about “War with Israel”, which has done far more to meddle and interfere with American politics and government. How many candidates travel to Israel to do fund-raising? Many is the answer.
Its laughable that society still has haters against the Jews when they are less than 1% of the population. So stop trying to motivate the troops for your own political and financial gains, because you are the lowest form of life, lower than defecation on the bottom of the ocean!
How typical of a Jew to think – money and poop.
This Little Jew is very naive – he thinks he can terrorize us with the “anti-Semite” charge and that we all fall for the “six million lie.”
The Stockholm Syndrome attack is losing its punch.
His Big Jews need to give him new instructions.
Think Peace — Art
Hi Art. Reading Advisor519's odd, inappropriate, ad hominem based retorts, is it perhaps not a Jew at all, but a hasbara computer bot?
oh jester, must you jest always!!!
Dude: You really need to get some psychiatric help for your anti-Semitism.
Oh my – more delusions of Jew grandeur – he thinks Jews can completely ignore the reality of their deeds and cover them up with “in your face attacks.”
Poor Little Jew – his Stockholm Syndrome attack is getting him nowhere.
Little Jews listen to Big Jews and coerce their fellow humans with intimidation and big lies. (The Big Jews end up the gold – the Little Jews the troubles.)
Think Peace — Art
Phil: remember what happened to Marlon Brando? Get your apology ready
Do you mean Vito Corleone?
Thank-you, Valerie!
CNN all news commentator
Against Iran
.wolf pushing Iran got money from Obama
Speak the truth
I agree w the comments made.Americans ought to make decisions re war/intervention s in/with a country,Not “certain.financially powerful people!!
So bush, cheney, rumsfeld and other wasps who had real power were just custodians serving powerful Jews – perle, wolfowitz, etc. And these Jews had absolutely no power nad hated Israel. In other ways they were JINOs. and btw most of the jews in this country were opposed to Iraq invasion. You wrong on all accounts. Just say I hate Jews and that’s enough.
Hmm - I did not hear them!
As philosophical Christians we hate the sin - not the sinner. It is the inferior chaos creating Jew culture that is the problem. It is the fear of the Big Jews by the Little Jews that is the problem.
They still believe in an "eye for a eye" - how backwards - how inferior!
Think Peace --- Art
F'ckin cowards all. Their ostensible opposition amounted to f'ck all.
In every comment that favors Jews and Israel there is always a BIG Lie.
The Big Lie in this comment is that the “jewish credo” is in part responsible for creating — Nazi Germany, U.S.S.R, Comunist China, Hussein’s Iraq, El Qaida, ISIS.
Jew bankers brought Hitler to power, a Jew (Marx) created communism, and the Arabs are reacting to Israeli aggression.
A war on Iran is 100% about Israel. And NKorea is a legacy of communism.
The Jews are clever with words – but in very chaos creating coercive ways.
Think Peace — Art
When one feels a little guilty, you start to think up counter-arguments and defenses: instead of saying, ie. "It was totally wrong to write that ALL Jews must be made to feel uncomfortable," I try to defend it, parse it, point out its rationality.
Best I could come up with is the experience of joining J-Street in its very earliest days. I went to the local temple to organizing meeting, attended training sessions, practiced media presentations, planned & hosted interfaith events -- the works. Then J Street grew - phenomenally -- and became AIPAC lighte. J-Street co-sponsored, with ZOA and AIPAC, the Iran Task Force, whose mission was to take down Iran economically. So from my perspective, I had been seduced to join in solidarity (god I hate that word) with the "good guys" who were, in my hope, going to counter the efforts of the "bad guys" who were threatening Iran, against the best interests of MY primary interest, the USA. But in fact, J-Street was merely the back bench.
How do you know who the "good Jews" are?
After that painful lesson w/ J-Street, I took my advocacy efforts straight to pro-Iran groups (carefully vetted -- MEK has "Iran" attached to it, but MEK seeks to destroy Iran.) I became active with groups that organized and prepared activists to lobby Congress in support of the JCPOA. We had arranged a final meeting before our scheduled visit to Capitol Hill. A Jewish guy appeared at that meeting and more or less commandeered it; he knew more about what we were doing than we did; he pretended to support our activism, got everyone talking freely, got everyone slobbering all over Jews and their rights to defensible borders etc etc etc, then, in effect, he pulled off his shirt and displayed his SuperJew loyalty: "Your efforts will fail," he assured us. "And if JCPOA does pass, it will still be a benefit to Israel, because Israel will then have access to Iran's nuclear secrets."
In other words, how do you know who the "good Jews" are?
I no longer contribute my support "in solidarity" with Jewish groups of any stripe.
I think it's time we non-Jewish Americans stood up and claimed America for Americans; it's time for US to organize and infiltrate and speak out as boldly and as forcefully as Jewish groups do.
I typed this -- but I'm not sure about it ---> if Jews wish not to be marginalized and targeted as members of the "bad Jews" cohort, then they will have to give their support to OUR efforts and OUR organizations.
I'm not sure about it because I have witnessed infiltrators -- I participated in a seminar planned and hosted by Muslims in my community, with the goal of making Islam known to non-Muslim members of the community. A break-out session was arranged so that small groups could talk with a practicing Muslim. The "Muslim" woman assigned to my small group was dressed in long robe, hair covered, etc. As the conversation progressed she revealed that she was born & raised in a Jewish family, converted to Christianity, now converted again to Islam. iow, a spy, an infiltrator. damn it.
re your statement:Really? How's that working out so far (where "so far" means the last century or so)?
I talk to far more Iranians (non-Jewish) who argue that the Iranian people and Israelis/Jews are age-old friends and should be so again, than I hear of Jews who argue that Israel and Iran should renew their age-old friendship. I suspect this is so because the Jews who run Israel, or at least the ideological basis for the form of zionism that dominates Israel (from its earliest Jabotinskyite days until today) are mostly of Eastern European origin: they are NOT majority Iranian Jews (I'd hazard a guess that there are more Iranian Jews in Los Angeles than in Israel).
Israel's leaders -- and American Jewish "trouble makers" are, similarly, not German Jews, not Sephardic or Mizrahi, they are East European Jews (although those Tehrangeles Jews ARE among the trouble-maker class: Ed Royce, Eliot Engel, Brad Sherman, Diane Feinstein, even Pelosi dance to their tune. They behave as would be expected of an expatriated group who may have lost wealth or possessions or status upon leaving Iran -- compare them to exiled Cubans who resent like hell being dispossessed of their gambling enclaves and sugar plantations, etc.); they're from Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus. Their orientation to things Jewish is Talmudic; their long history in Poland is extremely important to understand inasmuch as it influenced their ways of being-in-the-world, which they brought to Israel AND TO USA; their worldview is inflected by Heinrich Graetz's version of Jewish history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeRpiVQ-9YAgree wholeheartedly.You are more optimistic than I.
My tendency is to start by learning all that can be gleaned about the topic ('zionism' may be the broadest topic in all of modern history, inasmuch as zionists/Jews inhabited in and adapted from at least a dozen cultures).
Our next step, as non-Jewish Americans seeking to "enjoy a little peace" ought to be to summon the courage to speak the truth in love (not squishy sentimentality but with love that is manly integrity, preparing the world for our children & grandchildren). Host lectures in your church and library, your living room and local newspaper. Share what you have learned: I believe people are eager to be well-informed.
This packet of information about the American Jewish Congress might serve as an aid to identifying, "isolating and defanging" those "relative few . . ."
http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=365446
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jewish_Congress#Ms._Magazine
Excellent analysis!
Look, Mr Giraldi, you made the NY Post, indirectly. A shaming response that demonstrates one of your points:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/valerie-plame-jews-driving-america-wars-tweet-article-1.3511614
Anyone who reads knows that Israel (and its agents, where not dual citizens, the Jewish ones effectively all are, and the goyim dupes and toadies, who are not, 'cept sometimes with marriage) have been the tail that wags the US dog for many years, starting over a century ago, in finance, commerce, and law in NYC, in a small way the scope is ever wider and the effects more and more blatant.
The USA is a colony of Israel, everybody is knowing it, but some lie and deny.
From my reading of history, I would placing the tipping point from 'excessive power' to 'colonial masters' at the 1967 war of Israel and its neighbours.
Others may dating it to the end of the Third Reich, with all sorts of Jewish DPs and US Jews who had never seen combat running around in US military and MP uniforms to persecuting and killing Germans, under the command of Eisenhauer, the Morgenthau plan, etc.
Others may picking a different time.
It is funny that you are posting as Anonymous on this, can only mean that you are a more subtle pro-Israel troll with your usual u-name.
che guava
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it’s peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush – two greedy, corrupt oil barons – were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called ‘christ’ followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
This time no one gets out alive.
Also, could refuting you on some points if bothering, but can't be bothered.
That the number of comments on this thread is to approaching or exceed 500 (exceptional for this site), is a good demonstration of Israeli swarm tactics on the 'net.
Even your u-name is appearing to be machine-generated.
Don't worry, many other conscious posters here, they are also to seeing it with your colleagues.
Valerie Plame says:
https://twitter.com/ValeriePlame/status/910884546723196929
Whites are submissive to leftists, blacks and muslims. They can murder only defenseless innocent Jewish women and children. They did this 2000 years. Now time of reconing is coming.The worst enemie of Jews – muslims will conquer you and you will capitulate without a squeak.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/valerie-plame-jews-driving-america-wars-tweet-article-1.3511614
‘Tis also making waves at Newsweek, Politico and elsewhere. Poor Valerie Plame is getting roasted for tweeting that she agreed with me before the deluge hit her! They don’t seem interested in discussing what I am arguing and are, in fact, distorting it (what a surprise!)
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!" - George Orwell
No Shiksa better get uppity.
It’s surprising how many people actually think that Jared Kushner may be the Anti-Christ.
Valerie Plame is dancing up a storm about re-Tweeting Philip Giraldi’s Unz Review article on the Neo-Cons and US military interventionism.
Steve Winwood says:
Valerie, call on me
Call on me, Valerie
Come and see me
I’m the same boy I used to be
Another philosemitic apologia from you.
Any chance you’ll go on the media circuit to discuss your article? I know it’s unlikely any would have you on to explain yourself but if they did, I’m sure it would be an international news sensation.
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!” – George Orwell
Jews are NOT WHITE, only a jew or non-white would make this claim. Jews are at an eternal war with whites. The middle east wars are only fomented to create a white genocide causing rapefugee crisis. Our steady declining numbers and massive psychological ops meant to push miscegenation should show this to be true.
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Your delirious insanity will not disappear after throw up. You shamelessly lie. Besos never was a jew. Jews are powerless group that only clamors and lose every significant deal. They lost Iran. They won 6 wars with arabs, return them most of the land saturated with Jewish blood and ask genocidal arabs for peace. Most of neocons as well as jewish leftists are JINOs and enemies of Israel. Crystol specifically supported ethnic cleansing of Jews from gaza which brought war to Israel.
Regarding Iran, it almost comedy when you claim that this conflict would be for Israel and American Jews. Why? Well, let’s start with the “death to America” chant coming from Iranian leaders and the IRG. Then let’s recall the Americans, non-Jews no doubt, illegally kidnapped by Iran. Then let’s recall all the American military patriots who were maimed and murdered by Iranian IED’s. Then let’s go back to the bombing of American embassy’s around the world that Iran is behind. Then let’s recall the Marine baracks bombed in Lebanon. And finally, let’s recall the American hostages held by Iran for 444 days after they took over our embassy in Tehran.
But, yeah, I guess you’re right......it’s the Jews fault. It’s always the Jews fault. Got it.
Much worse than the “Death to Iran” chants coming from AIPAC, Tel Aviv and their followers in the US. McCain’s “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” was just a song parody.
You mean the dual citizen Iranians who went back to Iran and broke the law? Or the ex FBI spook who went missing while “investigating” cigarette smuggling?
I hate that Americans were killed and injured, but that is a risk when you invade another nation. Death in war is not “murder”. We would have been better off bringing all our troops home and leaving Iraq to the Iraqis.
Those have tended to be Al Qaeda inspired, AQ is allied with Saudi and Israel not Iran.
The sad result of using the USS New Jersey to shell villages in the hills above Beirut. US troops should have never been sent in. Reagan did the right thing by pulling our troops out of Israel’s mess and bringing them home.
Support a torturer and his secret police and you will have some blowback. A prime example of why the US should not be meddling in the Middle East.
Peace.
Solid responses Chris.
Always needs to go back to the beginning with Operation Ajax; Mossadegh out and Shah in. We kick-started it; the Iranis had no reason to dislike us from the get-go.
Peace.
They are only about 14 million Jews in the whole world.
There are about 2.5 Billion Christians who believe in the Bible and their Jewish Messiah, born in Yisrael. All Evangelical Christians believe and support Yisrael with prayers and some with money. Bible command us Christians to support Yisrael.
Romans 15.27 – Yes, they were pleased to do so, and they are indebted to them (Jews). For if the Gentiles have shared in their spiritual things, they are indebted to minister to them also in material things.
So include all of us (Christians) who support Yisrael in your wrong thinking.
it isn’t really private wealthy citizens but rather International banking cartels that own our central bank and use our own money to corrupt our politics and buy our media and subvert our universities until ‘we the people’ are disenfranchised slaves in our own lands.
the problem isn’t David Geffen and his millions. The problem is that from the length and breath of our media to the Wall Street banks to the universities to the courts to even our Supreme Court, the ill-gotten lucre looted from our Treasury is used as a weapon against us, to corrupt and corrode our institutions; the very institutions we all depend on to inform and educate us all.
and that’s why there are so many Jews sitting on our courts
lurking in our universities
slithering on Wall Street and using their poodles like Bubba to hand Robert Rubin the keys to the Treasury and kill Glass–Steagall so they can loot near infinite truck loads of our hard-earned wealth all to themselves. And then use that wealth to further corrupt our politicians and create a circle of theft and villainy that is seems only a proverbial ‘strong man’ can save us from.
perhaps the thieves at the Fed will decide they’ve looted enough lucre and exerted enough nefarious power over the lives of others, that they’ll decide on their own to hand over power and the coining of our currency back to the representatives of the republic, who’ll return to governing for the sake of a principled and moral standing in the world. But I’m not holding my breath.
btw most of the jews in this country were opposed to Iraq invasion. You wrong on all accounts. Just say I hate Jews and that’s enough.
Hmm – I did not hear them!
As philosophical Christians we hate the sin – not the sinner. It is the inferior chaos creating Jew culture that is the problem. It is the fear of the Big Jews by the Little Jews that is the problem.
They still believe in an “eye for a eye” – how backwards – how inferior!
Think Peace — Art
Stick the oilcan up your tush!
WASP culture was born from the Reformation.Specifically, it was born of Anglo-Saxon Puritanism, which was a Judaizing heresy. Judaizing heresy necessarily produces culture that is pro-Semitic. That is true of even the earliest WASPs. Thomas Cromwell allied with Jews, inviting them back into England, because that made sense according to the theology that drove him and the entire Puritan Revolution.
By the beginning of the Victorian era, virtually 100% of the British Empire's WASP Elites were rathr hardcore pro-Semitic. A majority of them were pro-Jewish, in a secular way that would have seemed wrong to 'orthodox' Puritans but actually was the inevitable child of that movement and its driving doctrines and passions. The rest of the pro-Semitic WASP Elites of the Victorian era were pro-Arabic and pro-Islamic (a few of those pro-Moslems were either pro-Iranian or pro-Turkish, but most were pro-Arabic).
Out of that divide would come two things: the Balfour Declaration, and thus the eventual creation of the nation of Israel, and the Brits backing the House of Saud and thus necessarily Wahhabi Islam.
The pro-Semitic nature of WASP (Elite) culture guaranteed - because nobody was powerful enough to stop WASP culture from creating them - both Israel and Saudi Arabia.
And look what we have today: the successor to the British Empire, the USA, backing both Israel and Saudi Arabia as they do endless mischief, more than a bit of it evil.
WASP culture created both Israel and the power of the Saudis. WASP cultural Elites are anything but innocent victims of Jewish and Saudi manipulations.
Thomas Cromwell did no such thing.
Oliver Cromwell to a degree yes.
The Saudis were (((American))) backed while the Hashemites were the British pick.
Let’s confuse issues Schmuel.
I don’t know much about the Bilderberg etc. I’m not big on hidden conspiracy.
But I do think the Jewish people are our misfortune. It’s all out in the open fam.
bring Kleenexes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8FlJy62Y8
So true, gives meaning to the “tale wag the dog” expression!
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it's peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush - two greedy, corrupt oil barons - were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called 'christ' followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
Israel should be smashed into Oblivion.
This time no one gets out alive.
Actually, I found the statement Shepardic had no biological connection with Ashkanazi on a jewish website.
What Jew in America fell on his sword over the Iraq invasion? What Jew committed a “Propaganda of the Deed” to stop the war or punish a Bush or Cheney for it?
F’ckin cowards all. Their ostensible opposition amounted to f’ck all.
They prove the point by policing Mrs Wilson.
No Shiksa better get uppity.
Ain’t gonna happen Rurik! If Jews don’t want to be called out publicly they would be well advised to stop running our foreign policy in the Middle East (they also hate Russia, clearly).
who don't they hate?
and when Marlin or all the rest start blubbering their contrition, it only adds contempt
Mel also wallowed in penance, and they still hate his guts ;)
Yes Güys let’s be good Goys and recall the sleights of the Iranian Republic and go to Iran and get shot at so Israelis can sleep a little easier.
Most Jews are no worse than any others, while most modern Zionists seem to be the big problem.
Ethically, philosophically, and practically it makes no more sense to bash all Jews than it does to bash all Muslims.
In a practical sense, we goyim would do well to avoid rejecting all Jews for the very simple reason that the ethical, honest and intelligent ones are a huge force against the nutcase violent Zionists and Israel firsters.Also, it makes no sense whatsoever to disperse our energy struggling against the good guys while it makes sense to target and marginalize the key culprits such as the troublemakers named in the article. I suspect that all it would take would be to isolate and defang a relative few and it wouldn't be long before the rest of us could enjoy a little peace.
Unfortunately, it takes continuous effort to suppress the goof balls who sprout at every opportunity like mushrooms after a rain on a compost pile, and most goyim don't get that, so we're screwed outta the gate.
The violent Zionists and Israel firsters are no doubt as big a threat to ethical Jews as they are to the goyim, and this has been recognized by the perceptive ones since the first rumblings of Zionist agitation over a century ago.
How would you draw the line on this spectrum/distribution?
If someone is just, like, helping out a mensch, and it so ends up contributing, even in a small way, to seditious conspiracy?
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2015240
What if there was an embedded cultural norm to always favour the perceived ‘in-tribe’?
How would you differentiate?
If you drew the line at the US Federal Law 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115, how many would qualify as “bad”?
The volume would likely cause the Federal court system to implode, even if a large percentage of the workers in the system were not on trial.
I would like to remind everyone here that the war is always between the arrogant, greedy, unjust SOBs of all stripes, and the rest of us, so let's not turn this into a religious or ethnic conflict.
we live in interesting times Mr. G
who don’t they hate?
and when Marlin or all the rest start blubbering their contrition, it only adds contempt
Mel also wallowed in penance, and they still hate his guts
Given the Valerie P. entrance, this article is become "real time" true history and I am honored to appear here with you and other noble commenters.
No matter if Mossad played an role at influencing her to speak the truth, and a victory is a victory.
Lastly, a selah for crooked Sam Shama.
Article on Drudge.
Valerie Plame on her knees!
Think Peace — Art
Hope I am bonkers, but Valerie Plame might be a recycled Zionist actress much like the tragic-heroine who takes center stage in Le Carre's "The Little Drummer Girl."
They reasonably figure that we consistently fail to observe past practice!
Pax in terra.
This complaint is a staple of Jew-hatred, and has been for a thousand years. The Jews, you see, are not REAL Americans or REAL Frenchmen or REAL Brits—their true loyalty is to Israel or (before there was an Israel), to the secret nation of world Jewry that exists inside their heads. They can never be trusted, you see.
Dressing it up in modern “neocons are evil” language doesn’t make this slur any less disgusting.
If, over time, I'd had 19 different neighbors, all of whom hated me, I think I'd be a tad introspective and wonder a little about my deportment....
There was no ethnic cleansing of Jews from Gaza. Sharon decided it was less costly to remove the Jewish occupation there than continue Army protection and support for the Jews in Gaza. This also gave Sharon the opportunity to iniatate armed support for the Palestinnian Authority to attack Hamas and divide the group. Moreover, the U.S. tax payer paid the expenses for Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza. Each Israeli family that was displaced received U.S. tax dollars to build a new home and cover additional expenses. Remember the Jews left nothing for the Palestinians but the desolate land upon which the Palestinians quickly cultivated to grow vegetables that could be sold in the West Bank. However, the armed, poor victim Jews would not allow the vegetables to leave Gaza and be sold. Therefore the Palestinians had to watch their efforts and vegetables rot while the armed Israelis stood watch. There are towers and armed soldiers surrounding the Gaza strip which is approximately 6 miles wide and 26 miles long. Our Secretary of State, Condelessa Rice, went to Israel to solve the rotting vegetable problem. To add to the Palestinians suffering, the Israelis demanded that al Sissi of Egypt close the gateway crossing into Egypt. Sissi gained power through an armed takeover of Egypt, thus under U.S. law, it is illegal for the U.S. to provide foreign aid to any country gained through armed insurrection! The U.S. has ignored it own law and coninues to provide $1.5 billion tax dollars to Egypt.
I'll believe that the first time I hear a neocon call for the nationalization of a bank. That's the sort of thing a real Bolshevik would call for. Neocon's instead get checks from bankers, which puts them on the entirely opposite side of things.
Jimmy Cayne, disgraced former head of failed Bear-Stearns, was Michael Ledeen’s patron over the span of 40 years; they also shared passion for playing Bridge. https://www.c-span.org/video/?123852-1/machiavelli-modern-leadership
(In the linked talk, Ledeen waxes eloquent on how Bridge players make great leaders and businessmen, while Chess players frequently fail at leadership and business.)
It’s interesting that the Medici used their banking wealth to support great artists who created extraordinary art that still inspires the world.
Cayne/Ledeen, on the other hand, left behind destruction and aesthetic degradation.
“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America’s entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.” -Univ. of Chicago Professor, John J. Mearsheimer, and Harvard Professor, Stephen M. Walt, in their book, “The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy”
These are FACTS that are written. Check your history! Is the Unz Review frightened of facts?
Rice did go to Israel to settle the Tomato problem! The U.S. did fund the removal of the Jews from Gaza. Check the facts!
Perhaps you do not follow the news kept from Americans. You must read the New York Times for information which explains your lack of knowledge!
They are fanatics, true believers in their own messiahhood. They will burn it down and not bat an eye. Look at history. They actually tried to take on the Roman legions, for crying out loud. Rejection of the Logos has made these people mad with scheming and plotting.
United States Establishes First Permanent Military Base in Israel
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/news/middle-east/united-states-establishes-first-permanent-military-base-israel/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=TheEvent2014&utm_content=United+States+Establishes+First+Permanent+Military+Base+in+Israel#
Or do you consider a German barracks on a US base to be a "German base"?
Yes, it is legal semantics, but definitions do matter. It is probably classed as a "facilities only site" by the DOD.
Jesus was a Judean, not a “Jewish” man. There is a difference. Iranian followers of the Hebrew religion have never called themselves “Jewish”, they have always been called and called themselves “Ya-hood”. That translates to Judean, not Jewish. Their community is 2,500 years older than any “Jews” that sprung up in history.
Judeans are Middle Eastern; Jews are ancestral converts to Judaism (only in appearance) from a Turko-Mongolic fallen country known as Khazaria. Judaism, like all other -isms, is a construct of the European banking cartels, which are composed and headed by Khazarians. The Khazarians are everyone’s problem today because of their “chosen” ideology and the depths to which they’ve implemented it over centuries. The Khazarian Jews morphed a Yiddish culture into a Semitic appearing one. They are not Semites. They are descendants of Cain, not Shem or Sem.
The Hebrew religion is only the Books of Moses. Judaism is the Books of Moses as amended and defied by the Talmud and Kabala. The Talmud and Kabala are aimed at creating loopholes in the Word of God as passed on to Moses. They took the first five books of the Torah, and added their own. Because the Talmud and Kabala defy the Word of God, they are, by definition, Satanic. They have added books to the Tanakh that are purely political and a mountainload of tactics and strategies on how to dominate Gentiles.
The Judean consider “Israel” to be all of mankind, not simply a nation. They consider Abraham’s covenant with God to pre-date Moses, and therefore, the Judean religion. It is a covenant with all mankind. The “Jews” consider only themselves to be “Chosen”.
Because the labels are applied in English and European languages, Iran’s Judeans are called Jewish as well, but they are not the same thing at all. Iran’s Judeans are direct descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, the Jews are simply political imposters. They are basically trying to steal the identity of the Judeans.
- Nikademus Lawman
You are obviously an anti-Semitic bigot. You should label your comments that you spew rat poison!
Oh my - look at some of these comments --- they have taken the chains off the mad dog hasbara types.
What original names and handles.
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. We are expected to fear this and buy these Jew lies.
You are an anti-semitic pompous windbag, and those who applaud your obnoxious comments are gutless guttersnipes.
Valerie Plame Wilson retweeted this article, lol. http://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/351745-valerie-plame-tweets-story-blaming-americas
who don't they hate?
and when Marlin or all the rest start blubbering their contrition, it only adds contempt
Mel also wallowed in penance, and they still hate his guts ;)
Rurik,
Given the Valerie P. entrance, this article is become “real time” true history and I am honored to appear here with you and other noble commenters.
No matter if Mossad played an role at influencing her to speak the truth, and a victory is a victory.
Lastly, a selah for crooked Sam Shama.
[for the record, and for all the people who take a peek at the comment section of this article, no one is blaming all the Jews of the world for the serial wars of the neocon Jews and their myriad goyim stooges. But it's past time for us all to speak what everyone by now knows; and that is that the wars in the Middle East and relentless sabre rattling at Russia are a consequence of the inordinate power and influence Jews have attained by hook and crook over our foreign policy and media, etc... Duh]with the advent of inane and vapid comments from Greg Boles and "An American Patriot", it would seem this article is generating an increased and well-deserved interest. It should be fun to watch as the shills and fools flay themselves on the rocks of Unz Review truth.
Bring on the shills!
In other words you didn’t understand it and reading is hard…but you are sure it’s badthink, because someone told you it was!
No, I am not – as you very well understand.
Instead, on the contrary, I am stating categorically for the record, that since it IS clearly, obviously, and demonstrably TRUE, then by definition the article’s title CANNOT be “deranged and bigoted”, but simply… umm… True.
Did you see what I did there ?
Dressing it up in modern "neocons are evil" language doesn't make this slur any less disgusting.
And, regrettably, calling it “disgusting” doesn’t make it any jot less true.
What about philo-Semites? Seems so…
I guess the only people who should be commenting on Jews are those who have not formulated an opinion… (shrug)
That's where the logic of this "recusal" talk inexorably leads.
I hereby strongly disavow Valerie Plame’s seeming disavowal of her re-Tweet of Philip Giraldi’s article “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars” which appeared in Ron Unz’s Unz Review. I fully support Valerie Plame’s decision to disseminate Philip Giraldi’s article via the method of re-Tweeting the Unz Review article. The Jewish involvement in foreign policy decision-making and the Jewish involvement in the corporate media coverage of foreign policy is a legitimate topic of discussion.
I also hereby disavow President Trump’s actions which signal the continuation of Neo-Con involvement in the formation of foreign policy for the United States. George W Bush and the Neo-Cons dragged the United States into the Iraq War debacle. George W Bush is gone, but the Neo-Cons remain. Many millions of us voted for President Trump in the hope that he would dispense with the disastrous foreign policy advice emanating from the Neo-Cons.
This writer is an idiot and exemplary of why Jews must protect themselves from antisemites. I could pick his article apart bit by bit but given time contraints, I’ll mention just a few bonehead statements.
Concerning Iran he does not mention once that the most popular slogan by crowds is Death to America. Yes, it’s Death to Israel too, but you can bet they would go after America if they had the means and it would have nothing to do with Jews. The 1979 riots against America and kidnapping had zero to do with Jews.
The writer suggests that Iran does not wish to destroy Israel. Idiot. They say it over and over just as that German guy said it 70 years ago. What is there not to understand here?
A complete dunce, his remedy is that Jews in America should never make decisions on the mideast, but suggests they those in security have the North Korea portfolio instead. Really? North Korea is a greater threat to Israel in many ways than other Islamic countries. North Korea was building the nuclear reactor in Syria which Israel destroyed ten years ago, killing several top North Koreans. North Korea is happy to export weapons to all of Israel’s main enemies and would continue with nuclear weapons if possible. Iran gets much of its nuclear technology from North Korea. So if Jews were overlooking NK, might they not have a similarly harsh view as they do of mideast countries that are out to destroy them?
If Jews are sensitive to Israel and concerned about potential enemies, the reason lies in the misinformation dolts and idiots spread about Israel, thus always putting it in danger. There are more lies told about Israel than any country in the world. Want proof? The once highly thought of British medical journal The Lancelet picked on Israel for years, writing hundreds of incendiary pieces disparaging that country. Finally they went to far with an overtly anti-semitic piece and the top person of the Lancelet made a trip to Israel to see for himself, after being the chief critic for over a decade. He came back saying he was wrong, that he had made serious errors and that Israel was not the country he had been led to believe. He vowed to stop writing those types of articles.
Much of the world condemns Israel without knowing facts. Same with countries. So if Jews are interested in protecting Israel it’s the truth they are most interested in protecting.
There is a saying when a serious event occurs. “What’s in it for the Jews?” Some will jump on that as typical self serving Jewishness but what it really means is this. Jews are the canary in the coal mine when it comes to serious political matters. It may be the Jews who suffer first but eventually it will be everyone. So when it is asked, “What’s in it for the Jews?” it really means, what is the future looking like for all of us.
Now I could never expect an antisemite turd like this writer to get any of that. His position is clearly revealed early on. He doesn’t like or trust Jews and blames them for wars. Never mind that a host of countries trying to develop nukes would love to try one out on Israel only to see what improvements they might need to use the next one on the US. Israel and Jews are the canaries. Personally I’d like to see those canaries live and prosper because that would be good news for the rest of us. Anything less would be a harbinger that would and should scare all Americans, idiot writer included.
explains a lot I guessthis from Wiki regarding Israel's involvement with Iran's terror organization under the Shahmore:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
I like that they place the "primary goal" of the torture in quotes, to point out that the primary goal was really sadistic cruelty for its own sake.
when Israel's Mossad was given a free hand to torture Iran's men and women into submission to Israel's agenda, Iran and Israel were bestest buddies. But ever since Iran freed itself from the brutal Shah regime, Israel has demanded Iran's destruction.
And it's only because the US has acted like Israel's bitch and relentlessly threatened Iran, that Iran resents the US. Only the dumbest of the dumb think Iran dislikes America because we're too free.
that's like saying the Palestinians hate the Jews because Israel is a democracy
This is a nice little conspiracy theory, but none of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are Jewish, and I think they were able to make their own decisions. Trump, Pence, Mattis = non-Jews. Suddenly, Trump feels he must listen to the “Jew-controlled MSM”? Please.
This whole thing is getting silly, isn’t it? Jews are less than 2% of the US population. Of the Richest 25 families in the US, the only obviously Jewish one (IMHO) is Ziff. How the heck do these people have more wealth/power than the other 98%+ of Americans combined?
Maybe the suits at the top of the American pyramid look out for Israel not only to curry favor with their rich, Jewish friends, but also because it is the most westernized, democratic, pro-America country in the region?
Could you post the list of names? After all, 2% is so few.
What about the early American sephardi crypto/converso immigrants. Do their descendants count?
What about James DeWolf's descendants: the Colts, the Perrys, the Bradfords, the Middletons, or the Gibsons?
What is your opinion of Judah P. Benjamin? If the Confederates had made a statue of him, would you have it removed?
Exactly what is your definition of "semite"? Why should someone be "for" or "against" them?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions. I appreciate your jewish perspective.
“rat poison” doesn’t help your case – it displays animus rather than dispassionate assessment
You are obviously an anti-Semitic bigot. You should label your comments that you spew rat poison!
Oh my – look at some of these comments — they have taken the chains off the mad dog hasbara types.
What original names and handles.
Think Peace — Art
p.s. We are expected to fear this and buy these Jew lies.
Mr. Giraldi,
Thank you for your article.
I see the Valerie Plame Wilson tweet has already given you some TRUTH TELLING FAME.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/valerie-plame-wilson-tweets-link-to-blog-blaming-jews-for-americas-middle-eastern-wars/article/2635151
I also see by the comment numbers (525) that you have attracted Unit 8200 and their Hasbara techniques of spamming/ burying truths and eternal cries of anti-semitism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_8200
Please support the BDS movement and hit the Talmudic Terrorist where it hurts the most, their purses.
Given the Valerie P. entrance, this article is become "real time" true history and I am honored to appear here with you and other noble commenters.
No matter if Mossad played an role at influencing her to speak the truth, and a victory is a victory.
Lastly, a selah for crooked Sam Shama.
thanks Chuck, and the honor is mine in poking fun at these war pigs and psychopaths with you sir
[for the record, and for all the people who take a peek at the comment section of this article, no one is blaming all the Jews of the world for the serial wars of the neocon Jews and their myriad goyim stooges. But it's past time for us all to speak what everyone by now knows; and that is that the wars in the Middle East and relentless sabre rattling at Russia are a consequence of the inordinate power and influence Jews have attained by hook and crook over our foreign policy and media, etc... Duh]
with the advent of inane and vapid comments from Greg Boles and “An American Patriot”, it would seem this article is generating an increased and well-deserved interest. It should be fun to watch as the shills and fools flay themselves on the rocks of Unz Review truth.
Bring on the shills!
Valerie Plame names (((dual))) loyalists, breaks internet. LOL
Thank you, Valerie. **smooch**
Stop attaching the White Ashkenazic to we Mizrahi people. We have no link and NO connection to them. They have in droves went into our communities in Yemen and took very important religious articrafts in an attempt to claim it as their own. The same way they have took articrafts from Syrian Hebrews. We Mizrahi tradition and worship is nothing like the White Ashkenazic. We Mizrahi are the original descendants from the Hebrews as well as Syrian Hebrews, Persians which some remains in Tehran to this day being protected by the Tehranian government and old public office in Tehran. Ashkenazic are racist. They treat we Mizrahi in Israel with no respect . We have more claim to this land along with our Palestinian brothers and sisters. Another fact. The majority of Palestinians here in Israel are not Muslims. They are ingenuous Christians !
When one feels a little guilty, you start to think up counter-arguments and defenses: instead of saying, ie. "It was totally wrong to write that ALL Jews must be made to feel uncomfortable," I try to defend it, parse it, point out its rationality.
Best I could come up with is the experience of joining J-Street in its very earliest days. I went to the local temple to organizing meeting, attended training sessions, practiced media presentations, planned & hosted interfaith events -- the works. Then J Street grew - phenomenally -- and became AIPAC lighte. J-Street co-sponsored, with ZOA and AIPAC, the Iran Task Force, whose mission was to take down Iran economically. So from my perspective, I had been seduced to join in solidarity (god I hate that word) with the "good guys" who were, in my hope, going to counter the efforts of the "bad guys" who were threatening Iran, against the best interests of MY primary interest, the USA. But in fact, J-Street was merely the back bench.
How do you know who the "good Jews" are?
After that painful lesson w/ J-Street, I took my advocacy efforts straight to pro-Iran groups (carefully vetted -- MEK has "Iran" attached to it, but MEK seeks to destroy Iran.) I became active with groups that organized and prepared activists to lobby Congress in support of the JCPOA. We had arranged a final meeting before our scheduled visit to Capitol Hill. A Jewish guy appeared at that meeting and more or less commandeered it; he knew more about what we were doing than we did; he pretended to support our activism, got everyone talking freely, got everyone slobbering all over Jews and their rights to defensible borders etc etc etc, then, in effect, he pulled off his shirt and displayed his SuperJew loyalty: "Your efforts will fail," he assured us. "And if JCPOA does pass, it will still be a benefit to Israel, because Israel will then have access to Iran's nuclear secrets."
In other words, how do you know who the "good Jews" are?
I no longer contribute my support "in solidarity" with Jewish groups of any stripe.
I think it's time we non-Jewish Americans stood up and claimed America for Americans; it's time for US to organize and infiltrate and speak out as boldly and as forcefully as Jewish groups do.
I typed this -- but I'm not sure about it ---> if Jews wish not to be marginalized and targeted as members of the "bad Jews" cohort, then they will have to give their support to OUR efforts and OUR organizations.
I'm not sure about it because I have witnessed infiltrators -- I participated in a seminar planned and hosted by Muslims in my community, with the goal of making Islam known to non-Muslim members of the community. A break-out session was arranged so that small groups could talk with a practicing Muslim. The "Muslim" woman assigned to my small group was dressed in long robe, hair covered, etc. As the conversation progressed she revealed that she was born & raised in a Jewish family, converted to Christianity, now converted again to Islam. iow, a spy, an infiltrator. damn it.
re your statement:Really? How's that working out so far (where "so far" means the last century or so)?
I talk to far more Iranians (non-Jewish) who argue that the Iranian people and Israelis/Jews are age-old friends and should be so again, than I hear of Jews who argue that Israel and Iran should renew their age-old friendship. I suspect this is so because the Jews who run Israel, or at least the ideological basis for the form of zionism that dominates Israel (from its earliest Jabotinskyite days until today) are mostly of Eastern European origin: they are NOT majority Iranian Jews (I'd hazard a guess that there are more Iranian Jews in Los Angeles than in Israel).
Israel's leaders -- and American Jewish "trouble makers" are, similarly, not German Jews, not Sephardic or Mizrahi, they are East European Jews (although those Tehrangeles Jews ARE among the trouble-maker class: Ed Royce, Eliot Engel, Brad Sherman, Diane Feinstein, even Pelosi dance to their tune. They behave as would be expected of an expatriated group who may have lost wealth or possessions or status upon leaving Iran -- compare them to exiled Cubans who resent like hell being dispossessed of their gambling enclaves and sugar plantations, etc.); they're from Poland, Lithuania, Hungary, Belarus. Their orientation to things Jewish is Talmudic; their long history in Poland is extremely important to understand inasmuch as it influenced their ways of being-in-the-world, which they brought to Israel AND TO USA; their worldview is inflected by Heinrich Graetz's version of Jewish history https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqeRpiVQ-9YAgree wholeheartedly.You are more optimistic than I.
My tendency is to start by learning all that can be gleaned about the topic ('zionism' may be the broadest topic in all of modern history, inasmuch as zionists/Jews inhabited in and adapted from at least a dozen cultures).
Our next step, as non-Jewish Americans seeking to "enjoy a little peace" ought to be to summon the courage to speak the truth in love (not squishy sentimentality but with love that is manly integrity, preparing the world for our children & grandchildren). Host lectures in your church and library, your living room and local newspaper. Share what you have learned: I believe people are eager to be well-informed.
This packet of information about the American Jewish Congress might serve as an aid to identifying, "isolating and defanging" those "relative few . . ."
http://digifindingaids.cjh.org/?pID=365446
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jewish_Congress#Ms._Magazine
S2C, I would never even think of chastising you and only made the points I did because I think they needed to be aired.
Thanks for the ton of info, particularly for the news of the infiltrators, the phony organizations,and the links.
I’m happy to hear confirmation of my suspicion that the Zios are going to great lengths trying to BS the masses. I think it’ll all turn out to be wasted effort but it’ll be a while before their whole house of BS comes toppling down because even the professionals that I hang out with are completely brainwashed and cucked out. The ignorance is astounding and will not vanish for while, at least as long as they are kept fat and happy.
I know quite a few people from that area, and I would agree with you that the bunch you’ve singled out is particularly violent, opinionated and belligerent.
Anyway, I’m neither a bible scholar nor thumper, but I do find Isaiah full of astonishing things, and there is no doubt that history will repeat, and the day will come when they’ll get what’s coming to them, which is what they dish out to the goyim every chance they get. Also, as for knowing who the good ones are, it’s the old deal about identifying a tree by the fruit it bears.
I’m off to check your links.
Bless you, and thanks for being here and offering fine comments.
Judeans are Middle Eastern; Jews are ancestral converts to Judaism (only in appearance) from a Turko-Mongolic fallen country known as Khazaria. Judaism, like all other -isms, is a construct of the European banking cartels, which are composed and headed by Khazarians. The Khazarians are everyone's problem today because of their "chosen" ideology and the depths to which they've implemented it over centuries. The Khazarian Jews morphed a Yiddish culture into a Semitic appearing one. They are not Semites. They are descendants of Cain, not Shem or Sem.
The Hebrew religion is only the Books of Moses. Judaism is the Books of Moses as amended and defied by the Talmud and Kabala. The Talmud and Kabala are aimed at creating loopholes in the Word of God as passed on to Moses. They took the first five books of the Torah, and added their own. Because the Talmud and Kabala defy the Word of God, they are, by definition, Satanic. They have added books to the Tanakh that are purely political and a mountainload of tactics and strategies on how to dominate Gentiles.
The Judean consider "Israel" to be all of mankind, not simply a nation. They consider Abraham's covenant with God to pre-date Moses, and therefore, the Judean religion. It is a covenant with all mankind. The "Jews" consider only themselves to be "Chosen".
Because the labels are applied in English and European languages, Iran's Judeans are called Jewish as well, but they are not the same thing at all. Iran's Judeans are direct descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, the Jews are simply political imposters. They are basically trying to steal the identity of the Judeans.
- Nikademus Lawman
Funny that, being that Christianity is characterized as a “Jews First” (Romans 1:16) religion. Is the New Testament wrong?
L’Shana Tovah to Y’all.
Or, for Wally, Herpes New Year.
These are people who proudly and publicly have sworn allegiance with the Zionists state. US is just their plantation
Q. What’s the marching song of the Israeli army?
A. Onward Christian Soldiers
Where in the world have all these pseudo intellectual anti semites been hiding. All of you who are applauding this idiot must have sheets hidden away, Lugers in your dresser drawer and a supply of canned goods waiting for the final showdown. You are not thinking nor civilized people. Is this what Trump brought out in you, to legitimize hate of everyone not like you? You’re sick people
I took the Israeli Ulpan program once in Jerusalem, the three-month intensive Hebrew language course. In that class there were around 20 adult immigrants to Israel, and of that group there were three of us who claimed to believe in God. Most of the class were Russian or Ukrainian immigrants, secular Jews who had lost their place in the Communist government, so they moved to Israel. Every day one of them would say "I don't believe in God at all. Judaism is my race." Then all the others would shake their heads in agreement. This is what being a secular Jew is all about: atheists who still think they are Jews on the basis of race.
In the middle of the first millennium AD there was a tribal chief in Central Asia who converted to Judaism, and he brought in Jewish scholars to teach his people. These Kazars became Jews, and these people with very very few Semitic, Middle Eastern genes make up the majority of the European, Ashkanazi Jews. It should be pretty obvious that these people have few ancestors indeed who can trace their families back to the Levant, and gene studies bear this out. So, calling these people Semites is just plain ridiculous; nor does it make sense to call someone an anti-Semite just because he denies that European secular Jews have a right to go take over land that has been occupied by Muslims and Christian Arabs for the last thousand years. This is, like so much else in our media world, is a scam enabled by gentile ignorance.
Thank you for your information. I’ve long held similar views and i believe it’s correct.
Many true Jews apparently would also agree and have warned about the frauds that use the Jewish narrative to further their own greedy, perverted causes.
I do wish real Jews would speak out against them more frequently and get more exposure.
Why lump Mizrahi to Ashkenazic people? We have no link to them. They are not Hebrew lineage from biblical times the way we Mizrahi , Syrians, Persians, Ethiopians are. We Mizrahi do not convert people. Only people the do that is Ashkenazic . There’s no such thing to convert people to a race! It is why Ashkenazic and their lineage will NEVER be true Hebrew like we Mizrahi people. Stop linking us to them. The Ashkenazic Satmer people have already took all of our articrafts out of our Yemeni communities in Yemen under the guise that they offer compensation. Now, Ashkenazic are destroying Syria and taking very important Biblical articrafts out of Syria . Tehran have very important Biblical articrafts too that they are now after to try and make it their own.
Most Americans have never heard of Mizrahi Jews. American Jewry is ruled by Ashenazi. Most Americans don't know that a substantial number of Jews never left the ancient homelands in the MENA.
So just keep posting.
“Would you like to know what is so strange about the neocons?
Almost all have Ashkenazi names and they are not shy about their brazen demands on the American empire to do their wars for them. Imagine if a bunch of Muhammad’s, Ahmed’s, Ali’s were roaming around the corridors of power demanding that America go attack this or that country on their behalf. Some eyebrows would be raised. But nobody seems to notice when a bunch of Kagan’s, Abram’s, Cohen’s, Perl’s are breathing on the neck of the Empire and demanding incessantly that Empire go and attack an Arab country. ”
Truth!!!!!!!!!!
Was Isaiah complaining about the goyim, or what? All one had to do is read the first 5 or 6 chapters to get a grip on who was picking on whom.
Do you recognize this? You should.
Why American Jewish groups support war with Iraq
Once a pillar of the American peace movement, mainstream Jewish groups and leaders are now among the strongest supporters of an American invasion of Baghdad.
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Peace.
The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel
Although it is generally understood that American neoconservatives pushed hard for the war in Iraq, this book forcefully argues that the neocons’ goal was not the spread of democracy, but the protection of Israel’s interests in the Middle East. Showing that the neocon movement has always identified closely with the interests of Israel’s Likudnik right wing, the discussion contends that neocon advice on Iraq was the exact opposite of conventional United States foreign policy, which has always sought to maintain stability in the region to promote the flow of oil. Various players in the rush to war are assessed according to their motives, including President Bush, Ariel Sharon, members of the foreign-policy establishment, and the American people, who are seen not as having been dragged into war against their will, but as ready after 9/11 for retaliation.
https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172
http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/
Philip Giraldi
Please be careful whoever exposed the Jewish agenda and policies and their culprit mind, they don’t let them to live in this world must Mosad planning to kill you.
You can find a list from history till yet.
Thanks for sharing this and about their fakeing news and please write about their world orders whatever wars they wanna start in Middle east just because expand the territories of Israel and want to begin world war three for demolishing Al-Aqsa Mosque and for welcoming their Messiah.
I do tend to be philosemitic for reasons that probably come down to no bad expetiences with Jews and appreciation of wit, himour and intellect that I happen to enjoy and value rather than, by contrast, their disproportionate support for philanthropic causes I approve of, like hospitals, or enjoy, like the Arts. (It is not so much that I cynically assess the publicised philanthropic efforts of rich self-made Jews and non-Jews alike as ways of buying social acceptance but I regard giving by the rich as just a good part of all civilised traditions and of human psychology; cf. Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs).
Now, would you try to make sense of the particular. I mean “Another philosemitic apologia”. What was philosemitic about what I wrote? What makes it an “apologia” either in the traditional and dictionary sense – or in some version you might care to define for your purposes?
You are a piece of work. This rant will convince no one who isn’t a believer. But I will say the comments are among the dumbest I’ve come across.
Dual citizenship should be strictly prohibited...
The Jewish members of CongressDO NOT have dual citizenship. They are eligible if they move to Israel,but thyre not citizens.
As such, being Jewish and being Israeli is effectively the same thing. Jews can therefore be considered dual citizens and hence have conflicts of interest with regards to America's foreign policy.
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it's peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush - two greedy, corrupt oil barons - were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called 'christ' followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
Yes, there are those Israel first TV and new media people who belatedly want to convince us that Iraq was all about oil. For some reason, oil was never mentioned throughout the nineties as the cause to attack Iraq. Moreover, oil was not given as the reason to invade Iraq by Bush or Cheney — remember it was WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! Indeed, Colin Powell did not discuss oil when he presented the U.S. case for attacking Iraq at the United Nations meeting. The U.S. was not suffering an oil shortage. Although the U.S. had the CIA working inside Iraq with the Kurds for years, the CIA was not there seeking knowledge of Iraq’s oil — just guess why the U.S. was paying tax dollars to the Kurds. Did Kissinger at one time promise the Kurds their own state as compensation for their cooperation? Oil was never the reason that Iraq was attacked — Israel had been promised regime change in Iraq.
If Jews should recuse themselves from issues dealing with the Middle East, shouldn’t Christians also? After all, Christianity began there. And Islam too. So let the athiests and pagans decide what’s best.
Can’t we just move all the jewish people in Israel over here to the US and give them a homeland in Arizona?
All that biblical nonsense is not worth blowing up the whole world over. God will forgive the Jews if they trade a piece of dirt in Israel for a piece of dirt someplace else. I’m tired of hearing about how he chose you to be his pets over everybody else. I’m tired of the US government sending billions a year to Israel.
I guess the only people who should be commenting on Jews are those who have not formulated an opinion... (shrug)
“I guess the only people who should be commenting on Jews are those who have not formulated an opinion… (shrug)”
That’s where the logic of this “recusal” talk inexorably leads.
Bernie Sanders: Saudi Arabia Is “Not an Ally” and the U.S. Should “Rethink” Its Approach to Iran
In a wide-ranging interview ahead of his set-piece speech on foreign policy in Fulton, Missouri, on Thursday morning, the independent senator said the United States is “complicit” in Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territories and said he would be willing to consider voting to cut U.S. aid to the Jewish state
Although it is generally understood that American neoconservatives pushed hard for the war in Iraq, this book forcefully argues that the neocons' goal was not the spread of democracy, but the protection of Israel's interests in the Middle East. Showing that the neocon movement has always identified closely with the interests of Israel's Likudnik right wing, the discussion contends that neocon advice on Iraq was the exact opposite of conventional United States foreign policy, which has always sought to maintain stability in the region to promote the flow of oil. Various players in the rush to war are assessed according to their motives, including President Bush, Ariel Sharon, members of the foreign-policy establishment, and the American people, who are seen not as having been dragged into war against their will, but as ready after 9/11 for retaliation.
https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172
The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its Impact on World History by E. Michael Jones (Fidelity Press South Bend, Indiana, 2008, 1194 pp.)
PDF copy here (20.4 mb)
This whole thing is getting silly, isn't it? Jews are less than 2% of the US population. Of the Richest 25 families in the US, the only obviously Jewish one (IMHO) is Ziff. How the heck do these people have more wealth/power than the other 98%+ of Americans combined?
Maybe the suits at the top of the American pyramid look out for Israel not only to curry favor with their rich, Jewish friends, but also because it is the most westernized, democratic, pro-America country in the region?
Why not be pro-American — U.S. tax payers contribute billions to Israel. The last Memorandum of Understanding also provides that the U.S. share its science developments and provide its “raw” intelligence with Israel. Also, Israel has the American market of 330 million within which to sell its products. Israel gives the U.S. a market of perhaps 5 million people for sales. Israel is not a democratic state; it is a religious state. Most disturbing is that Israel will not proclaim that it has borders. Israel does not recognize international law — only laws from which it alone can benefit.
Concerning Iran he does not mention once that the most popular slogan by crowds is Death to America. Yes, it's Death to Israel too, but you can bet they would go after America if they had the means and it would have nothing to do with Jews. The 1979 riots against America and kidnapping had zero to do with Jews.
The writer suggests that Iran does not wish to destroy Israel. Idiot. They say it over and over just as that German guy said it 70 years ago. What is there not to understand here?
A complete dunce, his remedy is that Jews in America should never make decisions on the mideast, but suggests they those in security have the North Korea portfolio instead. Really? North Korea is a greater threat to Israel in many ways than other Islamic countries. North Korea was building the nuclear reactor in Syria which Israel destroyed ten years ago, killing several top North Koreans. North Korea is happy to export weapons to all of Israel's main enemies and would continue with nuclear weapons if possible. Iran gets much of its nuclear technology from North Korea. So if Jews were overlooking NK, might they not have a similarly harsh view as they do of mideast countries that are out to destroy them?
If Jews are sensitive to Israel and concerned about potential enemies, the reason lies in the misinformation dolts and idiots spread about Israel, thus always putting it in danger. There are more lies told about Israel than any country in the world. Want proof? The once highly thought of British medical journal The Lancelet picked on Israel for years, writing hundreds of incendiary pieces disparaging that country. Finally they went to far with an overtly anti-semitic piece and the top person of the Lancelet made a trip to Israel to see for himself, after being the chief critic for over a decade. He came back saying he was wrong, that he had made serious errors and that Israel was not the country he had been led to believe. He vowed to stop writing those types of articles.
Much of the world condemns Israel without knowing facts. Same with countries. So if Jews are interested in protecting Israel it's the truth they are most interested in protecting.
There is a saying when a serious event occurs. "What's in it for the Jews?" Some will jump on that as typical self serving Jewishness but what it really means is this. Jews are the canary in the coal mine when it comes to serious political matters. It may be the Jews who suffer first but eventually it will be everyone. So when it is asked, "What's in it for the Jews?" it really means, what is the future looking like for all of us.
Now I could never expect an antisemite turd like this writer to get any of that. His position is clearly revealed early on. He doesn't like or trust Jews and blames them for wars. Never mind that a host of countries trying to develop nukes would love to try one out on Israel only to see what improvements they might need to use the next one on the US. Israel and Jews are the canaries. Personally I'd like to see those canaries live and prosper because that would be good news for the rest of us. Anything less would be a harbinger that would and should scare all Americans, idiot writer included.
interesting
explains a lot I guess
this from Wiki regarding Israel’s involvement with Iran’s terror organization under the Shah
more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
I like that they place the “primary goal” of the torture in quotes, to point out that the primary goal was really sadistic cruelty for its own sake.
when Israel’s Mossad was given a free hand to torture Iran’s men and women into submission to Israel’s agenda, Iran and Israel were bestest buddies. But ever since Iran freed itself from the brutal Shah regime, Israel has demanded Iran’s destruction.
And it’s only because the US has acted like Israel’s bitch and relentlessly threatened Iran, that Iran resents the US. Only the dumbest of the dumb think Iran dislikes America because we’re too free.
that’s like saying the Palestinians hate the Jews because Israel is a democracy
“Gentile Neo-Cons ? Name one?
And isn't Treason subject to some rather serious legal sanctions? Why aren't we hanging Traitors instead of quietly flying them back to Israel or wherever?
Ultimately the reason is that Jews are Holy objects to Christians. Christians worship Yeshua (a Jew) and his putative father-god YHWH. It really is that simple. America has enough Evangelicals alone to ensure the course never deviates and will fulfill their sacred prophesies. Jews run media? So what? Jews run RELIGION in America - both the communist bureaucratic State diversity cult as well as Christianity (Yeshuanity). It's awfully hard to condemn Jews when one worships them.
“Dual loyalty” deserves more nuanced treatment than just the thinking time coterminous with uttering the words. Start by considering that we all have multiple identities, sometimes several of equal importance to us. Then perhaps move to how one reconciles one’s dual or multiple loyalties.
Having trouble getting off the ground with this? Think of Grandma who brought up young Jack to be a law abiding good citizen and is completely sure that his shooting of one dead individual was not murder, but she has a lifelong loyalty to good citizenship supporting the police and law and order…
Off the map. First Washington DC, then Tel Aviv. No exceptions, no exscuses.
Orthodox Judaism allows for conversion, although the rules are very strict. Example: Ivanka.
Typically Jewish! That’s a compliment BTW. Now go to work on belief in that Abrahamic tyrant who is supposed to care about and communicate with his creation but never bothers to sort out the errors of successive big mouths from Moses to Jesus to Early Fathers to The Prophet to Hus, Luther, Calvin and all.
A very succinct and pragmatic comment, thank you.
Once a pillar of the American peace movement, mainstream Jewish groups and leaders are now among the strongest supporters of an American invasion of Baghdad.
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Another excellent post! How the heck did that get published in Salon??!!
Peace.
Hi Talha,
The answer is simple - people really want to discuss the subject of Jew control over our country.
Support for the Jew agenda in America is a mile wide and a millimeter thick. Even the elite would love to get this monkey off our backs.
Think Peace --- Art
Someone asked for some non-Jewish neocons. So, again: W, Cheney, Rumsfeld. How much cognitive dissonance does it require to blame Jews for the actions of Christians leaders?
Just stop with this crap already – it’s getting embarrassing…
A positive glimmer?
“McMaster also repeatedly brushed off Israel’s concerns about Hezbollah, at one point yelling at the Israeli delegation, which included Mossad chief Yossi Cohen, the Israel Defense Forces Military Intelligence head Maj. Gen. Herzl Halevi, and Zohar Palti, who heads the Defense Ministry’s political-security department.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235466
Report: McMaster says Hezbollah not a terror group
This Little Jew is very naive – he thinks he can terrorize us with the “anti-Semite” charge and that we all fall for the “six million lie.”
The Stockholm Syndrome attack is losing its punch.
His Big Jews need to give him new instructions.
Think Peace --- Art
“This Little Jew…….”
Hi Art. Reading Advisor519′s odd, inappropriate, ad hominem based retorts, is it perhaps not a Jew at all, but a hasbara computer bot?
With this thinking an American of African ancestry may not become an ambassador to an African or Caribbean nation nor someone of your ilk should represent the United States in the Vatican.
…they most certainly DO have Israeli citizenship. Look how they vote…
Phil I just wanted to note that you omitted another jewish prime mover in Trump’s inner circle..his speech writer (and Muslim ban co-designer) Stephen Miller.
And I also wanted to mention the disservice to this country and yourself done by Valerie Plame for her disavowal of this article, and even worse, her pandering apology for tweeting it. She and everyone else in the political arena and media knows it to be true. I’m shocked she was so easily intimidated.
Nevertheless, I will continue to post on internet articles about Mid East policy making your assessment as follows: “….the Israeli government is a rogue regime ….Worse still, it has successfully manipulated.. the US, and has done terrible damage both to our political system and to the American people, a crime that I just cannot forgive, condone, or explain away.”
ROTFL. Actually, her disavowal only vindicated Giraldi's point.
any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity. Jewish groups and deep pocket individual donors not only control the politicians, they own and run the media and entertainment industries, meaning that no one will hear about or from the offending party ever again.
I think it's turned into a game of know-but-no. Jewish globalists know they got the power. People like Plame know. They know-know but play no-no. It's Mutual Pretense Pact on the premise that if you say No to what you Know, you will be showered with prizes. If not, you will be exiled.
Valerie Plame on her knees!Think Peace --- Art
Hey Art,
Hope I am bonkers, but Valerie Plame might be a recycled Zionist actress much like the tragic-heroine who takes center stage in Le Carre’s “The Little Drummer Girl.”
They reasonably figure that we consistently fail to observe past practice!
Pax in terra.
Peace.
I know right ?? Who would’ve known!!
I call this “phony indignation”.. the typical sympathy stun grenade jew trolls drop on every article to make Americans feel guilt and shame about criticizing the “jewish state” and its policies. Meanwhile these hypocrites spew vile, demented racist invective about Muslims all day long and all night long and then have the nerve..the gall.. to call everybody anti-semites. It’d be laughable if it wasn’t so blatantly malicious..
Iran supports Hezbollah. Hezbollah kicked the IDF out of Lebanon. Ergo, Iran must be destroyed so Israel can extend their power into Lebanon and abuse the Lebanese as they do the Palestinians.
Israel treats the Palestinians in the exact way the Nazis treated jews in Europe. The Nazis were wrong, but the Israelis are not. No double standard here.
And I also wanted to mention the disservice to this country and yourself done by Valerie Plame for her disavowal of this article, and even worse, her pandering apology for tweeting it. She and everyone else in the political arena and media knows it to be true. I'm shocked she was so easily intimidated.
Nevertheless, I will continue to post on internet articles about Mid East policy making your assessment as follows: “….the Israeli government is a rogue regime ….Worse still, it has successfully manipulated.. the US, and has done terrible damage both to our political system and to the American people, a crime that I just cannot forgive, condone, or explain away."
And, despite Valerie Plame’s apology, what she has done will neither be forgiven nor forgotten. She’s toast! It would have been far more honorable and honest for her to have stayed with her support for Phil Giraldi and his accurate, brave and well written article. The Tribe neither forgives nor forgets. All of us who cross swords with the Israel Firsters for the good of our country need to remember how these people operate…and treat them the same way.
Most Israelis are atheists-who believe God gave them Palestine.
Dressing it up in modern "neocons are evil" language doesn't make this slur any less disgusting.
“The Jews, you see, are not REAL Americans or REAL Frenchmen or REAL Brits…”
If, over time, I’d had 19 different neighbors, all of whom hated me, I think I’d be a tad introspective and wonder a little about my deportment….
Regarding Iran, it almost comedy when you claim that this conflict would be for Israel and American Jews. Why? Well, let’s start with the “death to America” chant coming from Iranian leaders and the IRG. Then let’s recall the Americans, non-Jews no doubt, illegally kidnapped by Iran. Then let’s recall all the American military patriots who were maimed and murdered by Iranian IED’s. Then let’s go back to the bombing of American embassy’s around the world that Iran is behind. Then let’s recall the Marine baracks bombed in Lebanon. And finally, let’s recall the American hostages held by Iran for 444 days after they took over our embassy in Tehran.
But, yeah, I guess you’re right......it’s the Jews fault. It’s always the Jews fault. Got it.
Are yourself and Advisor519 the same person, or were two brand new Hasbara operatives drafted in just for this article?
Peace.
Excellent comments man.
What does this mean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc
"God gave us free will; he gave us the choice to accept or reject god . . .
Jews rejected the messiah . . . and they killed him. In rejecting Jesus the messiah they rejected god, they rejected logos . . .
The gospel of John starts with, "In the beginning was the word" . . . what does word mean? In the Greek, it's "logos."
Logos is the order of the universe. Logos is the mind of god . . . Logos is the voice in us that tells us what is right and what is wrong . . ."
I wish she would have stuck with her guns. But intimidating her into a corner is not really doing Jewish people any favors ….this is ultimately just adding to the resentment.
From a purely pragmatic view, an Israeli passport is not a great asset and there’s no real advantage over having just a USA passport. This means American Jews with full loyalty to Israel may still choose to hold only American citizenship. They know that if things get difficult for them personally or for America as a whole, they can go straight to Israel with no questions asked. Until then, they can hedge their bets by remaining superficially American while intrinsically Israelis-in-waiting.
As such, being Jewish and being Israeli is effectively the same thing. Jews can therefore be considered dual citizens and hence have conflicts of interest with regards to America’s foreign policy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWNchHXrOpk
Isn’t that just the world’s most exclusive citizenship-by-investment program?
Quite a few 1-comment posters on this thread, looks like the Plame controversy made this forum a high value target.
Peace.
As such, being Jewish and being Israeli is effectively the same thing. Jews can therefore be considered dual citizens and hence have conflicts of interest with regards to America's foreign policy.
I’ve seen this before:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWNchHXrOpk
You Israel-haters realize you are on the same side as the far-left Che Guevara crowd, right?
How many countries have the Jews been expelled from? How many people, nations, and movements dislike Israel and the Jews?
What is it they say...“... the only common denominator in all of your failed relationships is you.”
"...the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish..."
www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
Where do you come up with stupidity? I read this and I am again convinced that there are some people who will say the stupedist crap just to get their 15 minutes of fame. Yeah, Barack Obama signed an agreement with Iran for the benefit of Israel. Because that’s what he was all about. That’s about the stupedist thing I’ve ever read. If this is what Israel got for all its efforts and the efforts of its deep pocketed compatriots, American Jews, well it’s pretty sad, as the agreement sucks for Israel. Oh and for every Sunni majority country in the area as well. Actually, though if you think about it the agreement did more for peaceful stability in the Middle East than a well thought out agreement would have accomplished. Israel and Saudi Arabia on the same side of an issue? Actually, Israel calming the Saudis and assuring them that push comes to shove and there will be a whole lot of nothing where Iran used to be. Yeah, we are a crafty bunch aren’t we. Are we manipulating the U.S. response to North Korea as well? Because they’re a much bigger threat to the U.S. than Iran is. With its non existent economy, fraction of the population of Iran and people who get to eat every once in a while, they’re the real enemy.
They say they aren’t white when that’s convenient and they spend most of their time making sure that whites can’t survive, so how can they be white?
What do you think of more than 100 years of Jewish support for anti White causes such as NAACP and other black lobbyists, school desegregation, school busing, affirmative action, support for whoever America is at war with i.e. Cuba, Vietnam Russia during the Cold War etc ACLU, SPLC, Freedom from Religion Foundation( abolition of the very word Christmas), creation of the feminazis..
Then there is Jewish enabled turd world immigration, HI B visas which take STEM jobs from Americans, Jewish legal foundations that made our criminal justice system pro criminal, Jewish immigration legal foundations that made it almost impossible to deport anyone, Jewish legal foundations that enabled blacks to destroy our great cities and entire school systems.
I made a list of all the attorneys involved in all the school desegregation, school busing, and especially the affirmative action lawsuits.
More than 90 percent of the attorneys on the anti White side of those lawsuits had obviously Jewish names.
If you like Jews, you’ll like their pet causes, affirmative action discrimination against Whites, black on White crime and unlimited turd world immigration.
Aren’t you Australian? You should hope Jews don’t do to Australian Whites what they have done to American Whites.
Simonin NOT Peyos
Most Americans have never heard of Mizrahi Jews. American Jewry is ruled by Ashenazi. Most Americans don’t know that a substantial number of Jews never left the ancient homelands in the MENA.
So just keep posting.
Why is it that Jews get collectively blamed by Mr. Giraldi and many commenters on the article for the hawkish views of Jewish neoconservatives, but not praised for the dovish views of left-leaning Jewish anti-war activists and writers? Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, Howard Zinn, Max Blumenthal, Matt Yglesias, Eric Alterman, Phillip Weiss, etc.—-Jews are highly overrepresented among prominent critics of American foreign policy as well as supporters. (Libertarian Jews, like Murray Rothbard, are also generally very critical of American foreign policy.)
Indeed, the anti-Vietnam War movement of the 1960s and early 1970s was heavily Jewish (e.g. Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman). I presume that, based on the standards of collective responsibility he uses in this article, Mr. Giraldi would be happy to thank and praise American Jews collectively for their opposition to the epically disastrous Vietnam War, the architects of which were largely Gentiles. (Unlike the Jewish architects of the Iraq War, such as President George W. Bush, Vice-President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. Gentile supporters of the war were mostly relatively low ranking officials, like speechwriter David Frum or “Special Assistant for [x, y z]” Elliot Abrams.)
(To drop the sarcasm for a moment in case someone doesn’t get this—I’m not in fact saying that Jews should collectively be praised for anti-Vietnam War activism; I think the idea of assigning collective moral responsibility to ethnic groups is stupid. I also, for instance, think it’s stupid to collectively blame whites for African slavery, Germans for the Holocaust, Americans for crimes against Amerindians, etc. as opposed to the ideologies and institutions responsible for a given atrocity.)
Where are the bulk of the Jews when it comes to Israeli atrocities – how about Jew control of congress – and Jew control of the media – and an honest investigation into 9/11? Where are Jew folk on these most important matters to all Americans? We know the truth – they are supporting the Big Jews – they support Israel first.
Little Jews get blamed because they support the Big Jews who do all these evil things.
These Little Jews need to get on the Big Jew web sites and publicly voice their disapproval.
Until than they are as guilty as the Big Jews.
Yelling Jew victim - Jew victim – Jew victim – is not going to get the Little Jews off the hook.
Think Peace --- Art
One God, many Gods, tree worship, it’s all good.
True. Both are Semites.
Great article and totally on the mark.Why have we allowed our country to be taken,used and turned into something unrecognizable by the powerful Jews?How can we fight back against their media and educational control in which we are brainwashed constantly.My only answer is that just as the Jews have their father Satan propelling them to power,soon our father in Heaven will give us the path to free ourselves from this perverted atheistic murdering tribe.We cannot do it without his guidance and blessing.From porn to feminism to mass immigration they have laid waste to America and Europe in ways that make their wars in the Middle East seem tame.For homes and villages can be rebuilt but lost souls and culture are forever gone.Thank you so much for speaking the truth.My prayers are with you to be safe and to be protected from the evil you expose.
We are all Jews now
By Gilbert Porter Blythe
October 19, 2003
Since September 11, 2001, George W. Bush has made no attempt to understand the motives of people who hate us. A few hours after the World Trade Center collapsed, he announced that “America was targeted for attack because we’re the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world.” Two days later, he spoke of terrorists who “hate our values” and “hate what America stands for.” President Bush has never deviated from this theme. He insists that attacks on our soldiers in Iraq are led by people who “hate freedom.”
In Mr. Bush’s view, Arabs, the Taliban, al Qaeda, and Muslims all around the world do not hate us because we have hurt them or harmed their interests in any way. They hate us because they hate freedom, and America stands for freedom. It is only a small step to conclude that they hate us because we are good and they are bad. Some of the president’s less simple-minded advisors paint a slightly more complex picture: Arabs are jealous of America’s cultural and economic success, and their oppressive regimes channel internal discontent into hatred for America and Israel.
It is convenient but dangerous for Americans to convince themselves that their enemies have no real grievances, but want to kill us only because they hate our goodness and blame us for their own failures. If they really hate us for what we are rather than what we do, they cannot be reasoned with but must be treated as dangerous madmen. We need not think seriously about their motives or consider what we may have done to injure or offend them.
The almost deliberate blindness required for this point of view is particularly evident in the president’s insistence that Iraqis attack our soldiers because the attackers “hate freedom.” What they hate, of course, is occupation by foreigners, rule by infidels, daily humiliation, and the steady stream of Iraqi casualties added to the estimated tens of thousands we killed during the initial phase of the war. They do not hate freedom; they seek freedom from occupation and humiliation.
To insist that Osama bin Laden also hates freedom is equally obtuse, in light of his clearly stated reasons for opposing the United States: the presence of American troops on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia, economic sanctions against Iraq, and especially our unwavering support for Israel. In his October 18 message to Americans he was quite explicit: “We are counting our dead, may God bless them, especially in Palestine, who are killed by your allies the Jews. We are going to take revenge for them from your blood, God willing, as we did on the day of New York.” Mr. bin Laden has frequently denounced what he describes as the cultural and moral decadence of the West, but he has never cited it as a reason to kill us.
It is only by convincing ourselves we are the blameless victims of unfathomable hatred that we can justify acts that shock the world and that even our European allies oppose: preemptive war, unilateral violence, and detention without charges. We are so convinced of our own purity and of the irrational wickedness of our enemies that we turn on our former friends, most strikingly against the French, if they fail to understand that we are in a struggle of pure good versus pure evil.
There is a not-coincidental similarity between the president’s views of good and evil and the Jewish preoccupation with anti-Semitism. Jews have always insisted that if gentiles dislike them it is because of who they are, not what they do. Adopting a view like that of Mr. Bush’s view of attacks against the United States, they refuse to consider whether their own actions may cause hostility. In the United States, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and countless smaller organizations are on constant alert for anti-Semitism anywhere in the world, yet the ADL and the Wiesenthal Center are silent as to why anyone would dislike Jews. The Steven Roth Institute of Contemporary Anti-Semitism and Racism at Tel Aviv University has extensive files of reported anti-Semitism but nothing to say about what causes it. For those organizations, anti-Semitism is like Mr. Bush’s conception of Osama bin Laden: an irrational upwelling of pure evil.
Some Jews have tried to explain anti-Semitism. Hannah Arendt concluded that 20th-century anti-Semitism was an outgrowth of totalitarian Marxism and Nazism that somehow singled out Jews as unacceptable outsiders. Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer of the Frankfurt School argued that it was part of what they called “the authoritarian personality” and was something akin to mental illness. In his 1978 book In Bluebird’s Castle, George Steiner wrote that Nazis were anti-Semites because Jews had better, more humane values. Robert Wistrich, who calls anti-Semitism “the longest hatred,” published his views in a 1999 book whose title summarizes his findings: Demonizing the Other.
Some Jews have argued that Christians hate Jews because they see them as “Christ-killers,” but that does not explain persistent hostility toward Jews by the ancient Greeks and Romans, or why Muslims have repeatedly repressed Jews. The most common view among Jews is the one expressed by the World Union of Jewish Students in its brief Internet discussion of the causes of anti-Semitism, in which it concludes it is a “persistent hate without logic.” That is an almost perfect expression of Mr. Bush’s view of anti-American terror: it, too, is “hate without logic.”
The Jewish dismissal of gentile grievances is just as sweeping and self-serving as Mr. Bush’s dismissal of Arab and Muslim grievances against us. Human beings do not “hate without logic.” Sustained hatred takes too much energy for it to be wasted on millions of innocents. Over the centuries, Jews have been disliked because of their clannishness, contempt for non-Jews, disrespect for national institutions, disloyalty, sharp business practices, and many other things people do not like. But just as Mr. Bush has convinced himself that the Iraqis who attack our soldiers “hate freedom,” Jews have convinced themselves they are blameless targets of irrational hatred.
For many Jews, any criticism of Jews or of Israel is hatred and bigotry. Practically the entire world deplores Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, yet the Israeli authorities refuse to examine their own motives or behavior. Instead, they insist their critics are anti-Semites, meaning, presumably, that if any other group treated Palestinians as they do, the world would approve.
It is, of course, very much in the interest of American Jews to encourage Mr. Bush in his delusions about the motives of our enemies. Arabs and Muslims hate us primarily because we support Israel and pay for the weapons with which it kills Palestinians. If we were to think about the motives of terrorists rather than dismiss them as delusional murderers, we might reconsider our support for Israel. That would be anathema for Jews, many of whom make no secret of their passionate commitment to Israel.
For the many influential Jews in Mr. Bush’s circle and in the media, that is why it is important to encourage Americans to think like Jews, that is, to ignore or downplay the concrete reasons others may have to hate us, and to think of them as irrational fanatics who respond only to force. It is in the interest of Jews for gentiles to think like Jews, to see the world as a black-and-white battleground of the virtuous against the wicked, rather than as a complex tangle of competing claims in which there may be legitimacy on both sides. George W. Bush is only the most important and powerful convert to that view of the world.
It would be entirely in keeping with our increasingly Jewish way of thinking to invent a new word, analogous to anti-Semitism, to describe those who hate freedom. “Anti-libertism” or “libertophobia” are awkward constructions, but with enough repetition, Americans could be trained to believe that all attacks on the United States are just vicious, irrational acts of “anti-libertism” to be forcibly put down. Acts of “anti-libertism” obviously would be the work of maniacs rather than rational men acting on real grievances.
In fact, the word is unnecessary. We already have the word we need. Only America stands with Israel in a world filled with anti-Semites. Only the United States defended Israel when it bombed what it said was a terrorist camp in Syria in retaliation for a Palestinian suicide bombing in October. Only the United States and its client states — Micronesia and the Marshall Islands — voted with Israel against a UN General Assembly resolution in September urging Israel to withdraw its threat to “remove” Yasser Arafat. No fewer than 133 nations voted the other way. In 2001, when delegates to a conference on racism in South Africa criticized Israel, only the Americans walked out in solidarity with Israel. It is no surprise that the Arab world sees America and Israel as joint enemies. Muslims burn American flags at the same rallies at which they burn Israeli flags, and chant “death to America” with almost as much as passion as they chant “death to Israel.”
Mr. Bush may as well announce that American and Israeli interests really are indistinguishable, and that attacks on the United States are really attacks on Israel, motivated by the same blinkered hatreds. Let us therefore use the word that most readily comes to mind, and recognize that those who hate us are, first and foremost, anti-Semites and that hatred of America is simply another form of “the longest hatred.” More than ever, in our thinking and in our behavior, we are all Jews now.
It appears to have been published on The Last Ditch/Thornwalker. http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/othercontents.htm
iirc, Dr. Stephen Sniegoski's The Transparent Cabal debuted on www.thornwalker, then found mainstream publication
http://www.culturewars.com/2010/Cabal.html
The Transparent Cabal presents evidence and argument for the claim that
In regards to this article’s title “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars
Shouldn’t they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?”, here is a present day real-time example:
http://www.awdnews.com/index/zalmay-khalilzad-aipac-israel-lobby-insist-kurdistan-independence/
http://www.voltairenet.org/article197968.html
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/09/21/535936/Iraq-Kurdish-independence-referendum
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Netanyahu-I-support-Kurdish-independence-360958
The Talmudic Terrorists are soiling their diapers over the imminent defeat of their (Mossad/CIA) created ISIS terrorists in Syria. The competing Saudi/Qatari Oil/Gas pipeline lost out to the Iran/Iraq/Syria Oil/Gas pipeline (PRIMARY reason for the Syrian War BTW). Therefore, the Talmudic crybabies/history revisionists are trying to go back to the dead Yinon Plan by attempting to use and eventually throw the Kurds under the bus through another regional brushfire.
More REAL TIME info regarding Mossad/CIA Kurdistan independence movement
http://www.voltairenet.org/article197997.html
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.545661
http://news.antiwar.com/2014/11/24/aipac-leads-call-for-sanctions-to-sabotage-iran-talks/
https://iq.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/erbil/ Operational Field HQ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAlyYG8UmhE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rW7-kqiAGA
I don't know about all of you, but if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then....
Where ever the Talmudic Terrorists go, the cancer grows.
It is important to distinguish between American Jews as a class and its (self-appointed!) leadership. The American Jewish community as a whole is moderate and reasonable. For example, polls taken before the Iraq war started showed that Jews were no more likely to support the Iraq war than were Americans generally and were far less likely to support the war than white evangelical Christians. Many Jews were active in the anti-war movement.
The leadership is an altogether different subject. In fact, many are hawkish and angling for war–while never sending their own children to serve in the US military or serving themselves. No honest history of foreign policy in the Middle East can ignore the actions of AIPAC and the neoconservatives in promoting both wars against Iraq and the cruelly punishing sanctions on Iran.
It detracts, however, from the credibility of any article on this topic when those of us who oppose AIPAC and the neoconservatives fail to distinguish carefully between the leadership and ordinary Jewish people.
Let's take a purely logical approach to this proposition. Is it not true that a war against Iraq was an important Israeli strategic objective (see the Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC's A Clean Break)? Was not PNAC's remaking of MENA pushed by the neocons to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. Isn't it the case that the overwhelming majority of American Jewry have a passionate attachment to the villa? Doesn't it follow that they would be supportive of policies that promoted the security interests of said villa?
What are we to make of this statement by Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations:
"In the American Jewish community, there's a great deal of support for the president's stand [on invading Iraq]."
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Isn't it true that while American Jewry is usually at the forefront of progressive issues, they are mostly silent on the issue of I/P. Isn't that the origin for the expression PEP, Progressive except Palestine? Isn't this the reality that Philip Weiss often writes about? Isn't that why he'd like to have a more open debate within the American Jewish community about whether support for the special relationship is in the long term interests of America and Israel?
So, to prove the validity of your proposition, isn't it incumbent upon the majority of the members of the American Jewish community to publicly acknowledge that the interests of the US and Israel are not identical (as The Lobby contends) and that The Lobby is doing tremendous damage to the interests of the American people?
Isn't it time for the majority of the Jewish community to publicly renounce its support for the special relationship? Won't this definitively demonstrate, once and for all, they are prepared to put the interests of the US ahead of those of any foreign country, including Israel?
Final question: are you, yourself, prepared to renounce support for the special relationship?
It’s a big club…and maybe that should give you pause.
How many countries have the Jews been expelled from? How many people, nations, and movements dislike Israel and the Jews?
What is it they say…“… the only common denominator in all of your failed relationships is you.”
Read the book “when Jews became white” which is taught in graduate level courses. Chomsky also states that the rich and influential segment of Jewish population in the West, broke with the progressive Jewish tradition in the 20th century and sided with the oppressors. Neocons as a group are mostly former Terotskysts who found their new Jesus in militant capitalism.
My Israeli friends tell me that Israeli government represented by BiBi never dreamed of succeeding in force US to apply coercive pressure on Iran and get to this point. Now that they have succeeded, they want to go all the way and see if a war can be encouraged.
Well there are certainly some Jewish neocons who are hawkish, but the majority of American Jews are urban white collar liberals who get nothing out of the American military industrial complex. American Jews don’t fly or design expensive fighters, they don’t drive tanks, they don’t man nuclear submarines.
The US military industrial complex is a form of bribery to appease Southern American conservatives who might otherwise abandon the Republican party and start a separatist movement.
American Jews, like urban white collar gentiles, are certainly a pain in the ass in terms of pushing political correctness and supporting mass immigration, but they can’t hardly be described as warmongers.
-- ~Thirty years ago when Lockheed merged with Martin-Marietta, the merged corporation hired flocks of Jews who spoke Hebrew and sent them to Israel for months at a time to sell weapons systems.
-- Dov Zakheim held a top-tier position in Pentagon. While in DoD Zakheim arranged for Israel to purchase aircraft from USA for pennies on the dollar. Zakheim went on to head Booz Allen, a "government services firm."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-03-04/news/8701170712_1_lavi-project-lavi-jets-dov-zakheim
http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/04/critics-blast-shipment-fighter-jets-israel-170426074948986.html
Douglas Feith set up his "Office of Special Plans" in the Pentagon.
He says that they are driving, not that every passenger in the bus is a Jew. Maybe he meant some American Jews. Aren't some American Jews well known peaceniks?
The majority of well-know American Jew peacenicks are either banished from the tribe, smeared endlessly or outed as controlled opposition.
This whole thing is getting silly, isn't it? Jews are less than 2% of the US population. Of the Richest 25 families in the US, the only obviously Jewish one (IMHO) is Ziff. How the heck do these people have more wealth/power than the other 98%+ of Americans combined?
Maybe the suits at the top of the American pyramid look out for Israel not only to curry favor with their rich, Jewish friends, but also because it is the most westernized, democratic, pro-America country in the region?
@Joe
Could you post the list of names? After all, 2% is so few.
What about the early American sephardi crypto/converso immigrants. Do their descendants count?
What about James DeWolf’s descendants: the Colts, the Perrys, the Bradfords, the Middletons, or the Gibsons?
What is your opinion of Judah P. Benjamin? If the Confederates had made a statue of him, would you have it removed?
Exactly what is your definition of “semite”? Why should someone be “for” or “against” them?
Thanks in advance for answering my questions. I appreciate your jewish perspective.
Of course. Israel is a sliver of a country and they neeed assurance they won’t be taken out. They’re not so much as war hawks, but doing preemptive survival. They know much more than our own intel on what is going on in Iran. It doesn’t mean they want us to start a war with Iran, they just want comfort in their ally knowing and not forgetting about the issue.
The biggest key for Israel is to find a link between Iran and NK’s swiftness at creating their nuclear program. Is it conspiracy or fact?
You Israel-lovers realize you are on the same side as the far-left Che Guevara crowd, right?
“…the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish…”
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Putin-First-Soviet-government-was-mostly-Jewish-317150
The Christian god is a mega universal god seeking peace for all --- not a puny tiny, one tribe god – a god that exhibits himself in Israel, a nation of haters and terrorists.
Our Christian god is hopeful and merciful seeking peace for all of humanity. The Jew god favors one tribe. The Christian god is moving humanity to peace – the Jew god to division, hate, chaos and war.
The Jew god exhibits himself in Israel. He champions apartheid, summery killing, torture, detention without trial, squatting, gross unfair internal wars against defenseless people, and endless waring attacks on its neighbors. "By deception it makes war."
Clearly the pip squeak tribal Jew god is immoral and inferior.
Think Peace --- Art
The Christian god is moving humanity to peace? The Christian godman disagrees.
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.” (Matt. 10:34)
Kill Thy Enemies, Awkward Moments Children’s Bible
http://www.awkwardmomentsbible.com/jihadjesus/
Also, let’s not forget…
“[T]he Quran derives from a Syriac Christian lectionary.”
The Christian Origins of Islam
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/12/the-christian-origins-of-islam
“Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible,” Jenkins says.
Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?
npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788
Jesus said “blessed are the peacemakers – live by the sword die by the sword.”
Jesus gave us a different view of god – his view is hopeful and forgiving.
There are many foolish Christians who follow the Old Testament tribal imperatives of the Jews.
The Old Testament bible pounders are not being Christian when they advocate tribal wars.
Think Peace --- Art
Why is pointing out facts, like the number of Israeli’s and American Jews plugging these endless ME wars anti-Semitic?
Why is pointing out that only Jews have been the FED head since 1979 anti-Semitic?
Is truth now anti-Semitic?
Only Lies and Deceit need to hide behind Laws. The Holohoax is a scam. The REAL Holocaust is happening now to the occupied Palestinians by the Jews. Where are the Judaic Terrorist's crocodile tears for them?
Israel has hundreds of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons!!!
NETANYAHU PROMISES TO TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under." (Benjamin Netanyahu, Guardian September 21, 2003)
Why is it all right for Netanyahu to threaten the entire world like this? Kim Jong Un is going to get nuked for saying much less. One rule for Israel, and one rule for everyone else in the world.
WHAT DOES THE TALMUD SAY?
The Talmud is the heart and soul of Judaism. It was written over 1,500 years ago in the year 500. Here is a direct quote from the Midrasch Talpioth section of the Talmud. Only Jews are humans, and everyone else are just beasts in clothes. You can't argue with this, as it is a direct quote.
"Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by Beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and commanded to serve the Jew day and night." Midrasch Talpioth, pg 225-L
Being antiJewish would be something like "kill them all", "they all suck", etc.
Some people tend to overexagerate their power or numbers though.
Of course plenty of people who work for or complain to ADL would be aware of UR. Perhaps your question should be about its formal or quasi formal usual procedures for bringing an issue or institution to the attention of its executive cimmittee for formulation of a policy or watching brief.
After I posted that I immediately remembered that I could just go to the site and search for Unz which I did. There is only one hit and that is from 2014. That article is quoted and referenced in some of the current comments and media pieces. Of particular note to me was that the piece from 2014 took great care to side-step the answer to the question of whether R. Unz is anti-Semitic. One question that I have is what exactly is the upper limit for publishing anti-Semitic material before the publisher can be considered anti-Semitic?
They are "royalty " and above all, slave masters.
Have we been reading the same stuff? Who do you think has been accusing Obama of doing the deal with Iran for Israel?
One of the most truthful articles I’ve read in a long time. Our great nation has been hijacked by a group of people who have no loyalty to the US and their main priority is Israel’s interest at the expense of American’s interests.
Judeans are Middle Eastern; Jews are ancestral converts to Judaism (only in appearance) from a Turko-Mongolic fallen country known as Khazaria. Judaism, like all other -isms, is a construct of the European banking cartels, which are composed and headed by Khazarians. The Khazarians are everyone's problem today because of their "chosen" ideology and the depths to which they've implemented it over centuries. The Khazarian Jews morphed a Yiddish culture into a Semitic appearing one. They are not Semites. They are descendants of Cain, not Shem or Sem.
The Hebrew religion is only the Books of Moses. Judaism is the Books of Moses as amended and defied by the Talmud and Kabala. The Talmud and Kabala are aimed at creating loopholes in the Word of God as passed on to Moses. They took the first five books of the Torah, and added their own. Because the Talmud and Kabala defy the Word of God, they are, by definition, Satanic. They have added books to the Tanakh that are purely political and a mountainload of tactics and strategies on how to dominate Gentiles.
The Judean consider "Israel" to be all of mankind, not simply a nation. They consider Abraham's covenant with God to pre-date Moses, and therefore, the Judean religion. It is a covenant with all mankind. The "Jews" consider only themselves to be "Chosen".
Because the labels are applied in English and European languages, Iran's Judeans are called Jewish as well, but they are not the same thing at all. Iran's Judeans are direct descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, the Jews are simply political imposters. They are basically trying to steal the identity of the Judeans.
- Nikademus Lawman
I would follow up your reference to Iranian Judaeans with interest if you hadn’t shown yourself so oblivious to best evidence in your blather about Khazarians. Try looking up respectable sources on the DNA evidence. At the very least you need to confront what Greg Cochran has said about it on UR.
Why should the US be regarded as dangerously threatened by a pipsqueak (comparatively) like Iran just because of the hostility expressed by Iran to US military bases in its part of the world, especially when the US has a history of interference in Iranian affairs in theinterests of Americans and favoured allies?
AKA “self hating Jews”.
Peace.
I totally agree, this is a tremendous find.
I was especially surprised by the level of honesty contained in the two concluding paragraphs:
It must have been written by an antisemite. Drats, it was authored by Michelle Goldberg… she must be a self-hating Jew.
E Michael Jones explains it here (10 min in)
“God gave us free will; he gave us the choice to accept or reject god . . .
Jews rejected the messiah . . . and they killed him. In rejecting Jesus the messiah they rejected god, they rejected logos . . .
The gospel of John starts with, “In the beginning was the word” . . . what does word mean? In the Greek, it’s “logos.”
Logos is the order of the universe. Logos is the mind of god . . . Logos is the voice in us that tells us what is right and what is wrong . . .”
I think what you are saying is that the Logos is an 'overmind' to which we are all innately linked and from which intuition springs. When the link is strong, our Logos-fed intuition naturally guides us towards value systems, cultures and legal systems that are in tune with natural law. On a societal level, everything flows naturally and there is peace.
But when the link is severed, the newly isolated beings must build their own artificial value systems based upon a self-referential complex of core beliefs such as 'we are the chosen people' and 'I think therefore I am' and 'there is no God'. As these foundations are artificial and arbitrary, subsequent thinking is freed of moral/ethical restrictions and societal depravity may arise.
It seems to me that what we're really talking about here is satanism. Rather than allow the emergence of a belief system grounded in the Logos, the satanist first rejects existent belief systems then creates a new one and keeps it levitating in mental space purely by the energy of their own conscious intent. They believe they are the true masters of the universe and hone their metal abilities to create and maintain mental realities in accordance with their ego's desire. They fool themselves, and lots of other people too.
So then, is exile from Israel a metaphor for the satanist's mental departure from the Logos?
Of course plenty of people who work for or complain to ADL would be aware of UR.
After I posted that I immediately remembered that I could just go to the site and search for Unz which I did. There is only one hit and that is from 2014. That article is quoted and referenced in some of the current comments and media pieces. Of particular note to me was that the piece from 2014 took great care to side-step the answer to the question of whether R. Unz is anti-Semitic. One question that I have is what exactly is the upper limit for publishing anti-Semitic material before the publisher can be considered anti-Semitic?
Why is pointing out that only Jews have been the FED head since 1979 anti-Semitic?
Is truth now anti-Semitic?
Check out my posts above: 295, 297, and 534 Your answers are there.
Only Lies and Deceit need to hide behind Laws. The Holohoax is a scam. The REAL Holocaust is happening now to the occupied Palestinians by the Jews. Where are the Judaic Terrorist’s crocodile tears for them?
Israel has hundreds of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons!!!
NETANYAHU PROMISES TO TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.” (Benjamin Netanyahu, Guardian September 21, 2003)
Why is it all right for Netanyahu to threaten the entire world like this? Kim Jong Un is going to get nuked for saying much less. One rule for Israel, and one rule for everyone else in the world.
WHAT DOES THE TALMUD SAY?
The Talmud is the heart and soul of Judaism. It was written over 1,500 years ago in the year 500. Here is a direct quote from the Midrasch Talpioth section of the Talmud. Only Jews are humans, and everyone else are just beasts in clothes. You can’t argue with this, as it is a direct quote.
“Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by Beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and commanded to serve the Jew day and night.” Midrasch Talpioth, pg 225-L
The US military industrial complex is a form of bribery to appease Southern American conservatives who might otherwise abandon the Republican party and start a separatist movement.
American Jews, like urban white collar gentiles, are certainly a pain in the ass in terms of pushing political correctness and supporting mass immigration, but they can't hardly be described as warmongers.
You are misinformed.
– ~Thirty years ago when Lockheed merged with Martin-Marietta, the merged corporation hired flocks of Jews who spoke Hebrew and sent them to Israel for months at a time to sell weapons systems.
– Dov Zakheim held a top-tier position in Pentagon. While in DoD Zakheim arranged for Israel to purchase aircraft from USA for pennies on the dollar. Zakheim went on to head Booz Allen, a “government services firm.”
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1987-03-04/news/8701170712_1_lavi-project-lavi-jets-dov-zakheim
http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/04/critics-blast-shipment-fighter-jets-israel-170426074948986.html
Douglas Feith set up his “Office of Special Plans” in the Pentagon.
Because that opposition is nothing but posturing.
Yea Bubba! Because the Jews faired so freakin’ well under the Soviet Regime. The Bolshevik Jews had zero religious or zionistic intention. Their simple dream was to join with the non-believing masses as a way of ending antisemitism. In effect,they wanted to self-anialiate Judaism. Only they woke up after the revolution to find Stalin forcing them to list “jew” as an identity. Damned if one does. Damned if one doesn’t. Sounds like you and this dolt of a commentator would be more down with Stalin than any other. Ironically, it was that discrimination which fueled the largest brain-drain in modern history — from USSR to Israel and the USA. Now Russia is an empty shell of designer clad sheep and their best , brightest and most talented have fueled American and Israeli innovation in tech, medicine and the arts. If you hate Jews, then figure out a way besides your computer, cell phone and internet to communicate.
Before the Jewish Bolsheviks became "victims" (again?) some of them killed and tortured a lot of non-Jews and some were particularly active at destroying the Russian culture. Just check the names of Kaganovich, Yagoda, and Zemlyachka, for starter. https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
Not all Jews were evil and not all bright Jews have left Russia. Moreover, not many bright Jews want to live in Bibi-land.
OMG! I have found a Jew who said, “yada, yada, yada.”
Finally! An insider who is calling out the corruption and power imbalance that affects the daily lives of US citizens. We are all being duped.. and sadly do not have a clue
Peace.
Quite a few 1-comment posters on this thread
Quite a few of the commenters only have one post in them and that includes many of the “regulars”.
But you gotta admit - this one has lit up some radars in Tel Aviv and elsewhere. I think we're going to break our previous record. This thing could easily be the "Titanic"* of UNZ forums.
Peace.
*For a host of reasons, eh?
The leadership is an altogether different subject. In fact, many are hawkish and angling for war--while never sending their own children to serve in the US military or serving themselves. No honest history of foreign policy in the Middle East can ignore the actions of AIPAC and the neoconservatives in promoting both wars against Iraq and the cruelly punishing sanctions on Iran.
It detracts, however, from the credibility of any article on this topic when those of us who oppose AIPAC and the neoconservatives fail to distinguish carefully between the leadership and ordinary Jewish people.
Sounds like a very reasonable proposition… on the surface at least. But if we dig a little deeper, we’ll find issues with this assertion.
Let’s take a purely logical approach to this proposition. Is it not true that a war against Iraq was an important Israeli strategic objective (see the Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC’s A Clean Break)? Was not PNAC’s remaking of MENA pushed by the neocons to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. Isn’t it the case that the overwhelming majority of American Jewry have a passionate attachment to the villa? Doesn’t it follow that they would be supportive of policies that promoted the security interests of said villa?
What are we to make of this statement by Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations:
“In the American Jewish community, there’s a great deal of support for the president’s stand [on invading Iraq].”
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Isn’t it true that while American Jewry is usually at the forefront of progressive issues, they are mostly silent on the issue of I/P. Isn’t that the origin for the expression PEP, Progressive except Palestine? Isn’t this the reality that Philip Weiss often writes about? Isn’t that why he’d like to have a more open debate within the American Jewish community about whether support for the special relationship is in the long term interests of America and Israel?
So, to prove the validity of your proposition, isn’t it incumbent upon the majority of the members of the American Jewish community to publicly acknowledge that the interests of the US and Israel are not identical (as The Lobby contends) and that The Lobby is doing tremendous damage to the interests of the American people?
Isn’t it time for the majority of the Jewish community to publicly renounce its support for the special relationship? Won’t this definitively demonstrate, once and for all, they are prepared to put the interests of the US ahead of those of any foreign country, including Israel?
Final question: are you, yourself, prepared to renounce support for the special relationship?
A few bits from The Rulers of Russia (1938) by Rev. Denis Fahey, C.S.Sp., Professor of Philosophy and Church History, Holy Ghost Missionary College, Dublin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8FlJy62Y8
American wars in the Middle East benefit Israel primarily, but we mustn’t forget the war contractors, who also find excellent opportunities to plunder American taxpayers because of these military conflicts.
With the businessman, Trump, in charge America would probably manage to wage wars at a lesser cost.
In a not-so-long-ago Congressional hearing; John Kerry divulged – stressing the point twice! – that the Saudis had proposed to underwrite all expenses for a US war to topple the Assad regime would incur.
Imagine how much easier starting a war with Iran would look to Trump if the Saudis were ready to pay for it.
Why spoil whatever case you have by something as blatantly false as “in the exact ways the Nazis treated Jews in Europe. Even assuming you are referring only to Nazi treatment of Jews in Germany before WW2 the comparison is nonsense. Israeli Palestinians, unlike German Jews, sit in the national legislature, remain in the public service, remain in academic positions and so on all the way down the line.
Let's take a purely logical approach to this proposition. Is it not true that a war against Iraq was an important Israeli strategic objective (see the Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC's A Clean Break)? Was not PNAC's remaking of MENA pushed by the neocons to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. Isn't it the case that the overwhelming majority of American Jewry have a passionate attachment to the villa? Doesn't it follow that they would be supportive of policies that promoted the security interests of said villa?
What are we to make of this statement by Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations:
"In the American Jewish community, there's a great deal of support for the president's stand [on invading Iraq]."
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Isn't it true that while American Jewry is usually at the forefront of progressive issues, they are mostly silent on the issue of I/P. Isn't that the origin for the expression PEP, Progressive except Palestine? Isn't this the reality that Philip Weiss often writes about? Isn't that why he'd like to have a more open debate within the American Jewish community about whether support for the special relationship is in the long term interests of America and Israel?
So, to prove the validity of your proposition, isn't it incumbent upon the majority of the members of the American Jewish community to publicly acknowledge that the interests of the US and Israel are not identical (as The Lobby contends) and that The Lobby is doing tremendous damage to the interests of the American people?
Isn't it time for the majority of the Jewish community to publicly renounce its support for the special relationship? Won't this definitively demonstrate, once and for all, they are prepared to put the interests of the US ahead of those of any foreign country, including Israel?
Final question: are you, yourself, prepared to renounce support for the special relationship?
Why don’t you address this statement with something other than weasel talk?
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I'm aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it's the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world's sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won't happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz, ;) there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be 'good for the Jews', you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: 'what is good for the Jews' ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they're perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn't warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it... Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was "very good", and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who've pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn't Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/03/04/opinion/4wed1WEB/4wed1WEB-master1050.jpg
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered 'good for Israel'.
It isn't your Jewish dentist who's to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn't the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they're unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I'm reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
https://cdn.lrb.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jersey-cow.png
Phil's discussion of jews and war-mongering has a lengthy history.
why did the London financiers want the king to invade Normandy?
For the same reason that they wanted us to hit Omaha Beach over 700 years later: taller stacks of shekels. :)
Shouldn't they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?", here is a present day real-time example:
http://www.awdnews.com/index/zalmay-khalilzad-aipac-israel-lobby-insist-kurdistan-independence/
http://www.voltairenet.org/article197968.html
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/09/21/535936/Iraq-Kurdish-independence-referendum
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Netanyahu-I-support-Kurdish-independence-360958
The Talmudic Terrorists are soiling their diapers over the imminent defeat of their (Mossad/CIA) created ISIS terrorists in Syria. The competing Saudi/Qatari Oil/Gas pipeline lost out to the Iran/Iraq/Syria Oil/Gas pipeline (PRIMARY reason for the Syrian War BTW). Therefore, the Talmudic crybabies/history revisionists are trying to go back to the dead Yinon Plan by attempting to use and eventually throw the Kurds under the bus through another regional brushfire.
RE: Post 599
More REAL TIME info regarding Mossad/CIA Kurdistan independence movement
http://www.voltairenet.org/article197997.html
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.545661
http://news.antiwar.com/2014/11/24/aipac-leads-call-for-sanctions-to-sabotage-iran-talks/
https://iq.usembassy.gov/embassy-consulates/erbil/ Operational Field HQ?
I don’t know about all of you, but if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then….
Where ever the Talmudic Terrorists go, the cancer grows.
{I listened to part of Trump’s UN speech this morning. I was so embarrassed for him and for my country that I had to turn it off.
I wonder if whoever wrote the deplorable speech intended to embarrass Trump and inadvertently embarrassed America as well, or whether the speechwriter(s) is so imbued with the neoconservative arrogance and hubris of our time that the speechwriter was simply blind to the extraordinary contradictions that stood out like sore thumbs all through the speech.}
https://dissidentvoice.org/2017/09/trumps-un-speech/
Doesn't Mr. Roberts know that a ziofascist by the name of Stephen Miller is writing Trump's garbage for the interest of the zionist Jews. The zionist Jews have already sucked blood out of another US empire to serve the jewish interest.
Israelnationalnews "The Jew who wrote Trump's speech" writes:
{Stephen Miller writes Trump's UN speech, detailing an almost biblical view of independent nations..
Miller is 32 years old. Born in Santa Monica, California, he second son of real estate investor Michael Miller's three children. Miller's maternal grandparents immigrated with their daughter from Belarus in the early 1900s. Some of his family members were tailors.
Miller received a liberal education typical of other American Jews, but adopted a more conservative perspective in high school. As a student at Duke University, Miller became active in David Horowitz's conservative Freedom Center think tank and began to fight the silencing of conservative viewpoints.
In January 2016, he joined Trump's election campaign. Later the same year, he was chosen to serve as one of the President's advisers.}
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/235792
The zionist jew, Stephen Miller, is not an expert in ANYTHING, he is advisor because he is a jew. He has ONLY a BA degree in liberal art, yet he is advising an illiterate zionist stooge on world issues and the complicated Middle East and writing his weaponized 'speeches' to boost the Jews' interest against the interest of the rest in the world.
This illiterate fellow copies from the garbage that comes from a baby killer, Netanyahu, and feed it to the world. The people in the middle East reject the zionist garbage when they see it, since they are knowledgeable. The comments in the region has pained trump A ZIONIST CLOWN, at the best.
But how about ignorant Americans who are supportive of zionist garbage read by a clown?
Part of any speech is directed at stupid Americans. What do you think would happen to Trump is he just said. Well America, there really isn’t anything we can do about NK. We will watch and be always ready to react to anything that they might do.
Now Trump might very well be an idiot believing the garbage in that speech but he has to make it even if he doesn’t believe it.
Judeans are Middle Eastern; Jews are ancestral converts to Judaism (only in appearance) from a Turko-Mongolic fallen country known as Khazaria. Judaism, like all other -isms, is a construct of the European banking cartels, which are composed and headed by Khazarians. The Khazarians are everyone's problem today because of their "chosen" ideology and the depths to which they've implemented it over centuries. The Khazarian Jews morphed a Yiddish culture into a Semitic appearing one. They are not Semites. They are descendants of Cain, not Shem or Sem.
The Hebrew religion is only the Books of Moses. Judaism is the Books of Moses as amended and defied by the Talmud and Kabala. The Talmud and Kabala are aimed at creating loopholes in the Word of God as passed on to Moses. They took the first five books of the Torah, and added their own. Because the Talmud and Kabala defy the Word of God, they are, by definition, Satanic. They have added books to the Tanakh that are purely political and a mountainload of tactics and strategies on how to dominate Gentiles.
The Judean consider "Israel" to be all of mankind, not simply a nation. They consider Abraham's covenant with God to pre-date Moses, and therefore, the Judean religion. It is a covenant with all mankind. The "Jews" consider only themselves to be "Chosen".
Because the labels are applied in English and European languages, Iran's Judeans are called Jewish as well, but they are not the same thing at all. Iran's Judeans are direct descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, the Jews are simply political imposters. They are basically trying to steal the identity of the Judeans.
- Nikademus Lawman
Thank you; I appreciate your comment.
The problematic Jews are Liberal/Leftists/Neoconservatives. (yep its most Jews, but not all).
I support Jews going to Israel. They need to go there faster. By that sense I am slightly Zionist.
But there lobbies, duel citizens, meddling in Western nations, bombing neighbouring states is nasty.
USA should ban duel-citizenship in lobbies, politics, banking.
Why is pointing out that only Jews have been the FED head since 1979 anti-Semitic?
Is truth now anti-Semitic?
Pointing out Jewish names, saying they are the richest group, and stuff is fine. Though the adl, sjws and pc would say its antiJewish.
Being antiJewish would be something like “kill them all”, “they all suck”, etc.
Some people tend to overexagerate their power or numbers though.
I’ll take a shot..
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I’m aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it’s the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world’s sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won’t happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz,
there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be ‘good for the Jews’, you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: ‘what is good for the Jews’ ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they’re perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn’t warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it… Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was “very good”, and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who’ve pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn’t Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered ‘good for Israel’.
It isn’t your Jewish dentist who’s to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn’t the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they’re unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I’m reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
Now where did I leave my pitchfork?
"Imagine if every Anglo-Saxon in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!"
or, even better
"Imagine if every CITIZEN in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!"
Looking from outside this post has the most comments (and still running strong).
But, looking at those comments......man......it's...........interesting.
A lot of them feel, for me, like:
"A person is fat. He's fat because he is weak and lazy. He can't stop gorging on all those hamburgers. He can't stand physical exercise, let alone physical work. But he can't admit it to himself. So, he blames McDonald's. And all his friends, all like him, agree. They have found the core cause for them being fat. Bad....bad....McDonald's".
Feels great.
Explains everything.
I assume we will be limiting the leadership in question to geographical limits of the United States. Foreign entities may influence actions but leadership is submitted to be a different element.
Perhaps AIPAC or rabbi/religious groups may be mentioned, but I would suggest Wall Street bankers as having a dominate influence in the manifestation of social changes in our society. In my opinion, they have induced the United States into every military conflict—either for their economic gain, to destroy imagined religious infidels, or to provide cover for their nefarious acts---for 120 years. Their use of the CIA to assist and initiate the military actions has been documented by Perkins, Blum, Kinzer, Talbot, Valentine, Prouty, and others. Their impoverishment of nations as a deliberate agenda for decades has been documented by Chossudovsky and is prominently visible in Greece.
They are alleged to surreptitiously receive trillions of dollars from the United States using the Rothschild Ponzi scheme but unfortunately the effort has failed to gain traction. The scheme appears to be an obvious and inescapable embezzlement. Ref. https://www.scribd.com/document355085824 . Embezzlement by Federal Reserve--document 355085824 The fraudulent National debt developed by this scheme has been projected to impoverish the United States in the same manner as in Greece but WS successfully avoids public identification of their scheme.
It is submitted the funding, and leadership, of the Zionist movement and the establishment of Israel is in Manhattan.
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I'm aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it's the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world's sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won't happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz, ;) there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be 'good for the Jews', you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: 'what is good for the Jews' ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they're perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn't warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it... Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was "very good", and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who've pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn't Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/03/04/opinion/4wed1WEB/4wed1WEB-master1050.jpg
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered 'good for Israel'.
It isn't your Jewish dentist who's to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn't the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they're unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I'm reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
https://cdn.lrb.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jersey-cow.png
My eyes! My eyes!
Now where did I leave my pitchfork?
Someone should ask why are America’s Jews driving America’s wars. It was pointed out in this conversation that there is a general reduction of white men occurring in the United States, and the logical question is who is going to fight the wars for Israel? Women, trannies, minorities? Wars are a very good way of reducing a population. Open borders, multiculturalism, promotion of feminism and gay culture are other good ways to reduce a population. All of these have been initiated by similar ethnic interests and it makes the object of the cultural Marxist social war fairly clear.
Interesting. Didnt know that about Koch brothers.
It seems on the right, the Paleocons and Paleolibertarians have balanced foreign policy views (there might be some smaller groups too).
Shame that the Neocons kicked them out after the Reagan years.
Wont comment too much about the left, but some of them have normal foreign policy view,
though modern liberalism is interventionist and mixed with neoconsertavism. (clintons, etc).
why did the London financiers want the king to invade Normandy?
For the same reason that they wanted us to hit Omaha Beach over 700 years later: taller stacks of shekels.
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/news/middle-east/united-states-establishes-first-permanent-military-base-israel/?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=TheEvent2014&utm_content=United+States+Establishes+First+Permanent+Military+Base+in+Israel#
There should be no US troops or aid to Israel. But calling this a “base” is a bit of a misnomer. Saying the US now has a few dozen troops stationed in Israel would be more correct. The “base” is nothing but a barracks and another building or two on an Israeli base.
Or do you consider a German barracks on a US base to be a “German base”?
Yes, it is legal semantics, but definitions do matter. It is probably classed as a “facilities only site” by the DOD.
I support Jews going to Israel. They need to go there faster. By that sense I am slightly Zionist.
But there lobbies, duel citizens, meddling in Western nations, bombing neighbouring states is nasty.
USA should ban duel-citizenship in lobbies, politics, banking.
USA should ban duel-citizenship. PERIOD
I don’t care if the other nation is Ireland, Iceland, India, or Israel.
Why does Valerie Palme Wilson apologizes for posting this article? Now, Manning description of
America as a POLICE STATE makes a lot of sense.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/ex-cia-agent-tweets-article-blaming-jews-for-us-wars-then-apologizes
[Ex-CIA agent tweets article blaming Jews for US wars, then apologizes
Valerie Plame Wilson links to piece called 'America's Jews are driving America's wars,' then says she is of 'Jewish decent,' finally says she made a 'doozy' of a mistake]
The connected Trump family Mafia and the Jewsih Mafia are cooking a war against another country in the Middle East to serve the interest of the ziofascists. They don’t get this fact that ODED YINON PLAN IS DEAD FOR GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.
The White House Is Secretly Planning for Confrontation with Iran: Report
[According to six current and former U.S. officials, the U.S. will be looking at more hostile responses to Iran’s forces, its proxy armies in Iraq and Syria, and its support for militant groups.
According to the sources, the current proposal was drafted by Defense Secretary Jim “Mad Dog” Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, national security advisor General H.R. McMaster, and several other top officials before it was presented to President Trump at a National Security Council meeting on September.]
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-white-house-is-secretly-planning-for-confrontation-with-iran-report/5610051
Unadulterated Truth
Valerie Plame should Tweet a link to the USS Liberty Wiki
I always find it hilarious when blatant anti-Semites blame Jews for the ills of the country, or the world. The fact that so many people can, with a straight face, that a country of less than 9 million, minus the approximate 20% of the population that is Arab, which is about 2 million, so 7 million has the power to influence and control events in a world with over 7 BILLION people. Is that what you are saying?
When you get right down to it though, you people are saying that only the rich, influential Jews around the world are the ones controlling the course of the Middle East, the United States and God only knows how many other countries so that number is what, about 20 to 30 thousand people? Hell, let’s go crazy and say it’s one hundred thousand people. Is that what you are saying?
Seriously, is that what you people truly believe? If so then perhaps you should consider investing in Alcoa and other aluminum processors so you can have a ready supply of foil hats available to block out their insidious mind control beams.
Antisemitism is the one of the longest running games of finger pointing in the history of mankind. Since before the time of Christ Jews have been the world’s whipping post, with no reasonable reason given. I seriously thought that thinking like this had gone the way of the pogroms that swept from one end to the European and Asian continents and back again in the middle Ages, which is what your level of reasoning amounts to.
All I can say is thank God that you people are a distinct minority in the world and that your paranoia filled conspiracies are still nothing but the ravings of a minuscule fringe of today’s society. And God help us if you ever break into the mainstream.
Giraldi is not blaming the Jews "for the ills of the country, or the world" as you suggest. Giraldi makes the case convincingly that the Jewish establishment have a very significant degree of control over US middle eastern policy and that that is detrimental to the USA as it puts Israeli interests ahead of American interests.
Anti Zionist Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
Http://www.truetorahjews.org
Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro explains the reasons why Orthodox Jews do not serve in the Israeli army
http://www.truetorahjews.org/images/rabbishapirovideo.mp4
Maybe Mr Unz could include some 'true' Jews amoung his commentators.
There are also secular Jewish anti Zionists.
This http://www.truetorahjews.org account was suspended since I last watched it a few days ago.
But they are still on YouTube.
Here a good interview with Rabbi Shapiro:
The Real Reason that Netanyahu and Israeli Leader’s Claim to Speak for All Jews
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4_1dfp3tAM
One-trick ponies abound!
But you gotta admit – this one has lit up some radars in Tel Aviv and elsewhere. I think we’re going to break our previous record. This thing could easily be the “Titanic”* of UNZ forums.
Peace.
*For a host of reasons, eh?
When you get right down to it though, you people are saying that only the rich, influential Jews around the world are the ones controlling the course of the Middle East, the United States and God only knows how many other countries so that number is what, about 20 to 30 thousand people? Hell, let's go crazy and say it's one hundred thousand people. Is that what you are saying?
Seriously, is that what you people truly believe? If so then perhaps you should consider investing in Alcoa and other aluminum processors so you can have a ready supply of foil hats available to block out their insidious mind control beams.
Antisemitism is the one of the longest running games of finger pointing in the history of mankind. Since before the time of Christ Jews have been the world's whipping post, with no reasonable reason given. I seriously thought that thinking like this had gone the way of the pogroms that swept from one end to the European and Asian continents and back again in the middle Ages, which is what your level of reasoning amounts to.
All I can say is thank God that you people are a distinct minority in the world and that your paranoia filled conspiracies are still nothing but the ravings of a minuscule fringe of today's society. And God help us if you ever break into the mainstream.
Right, in all these nations and eras, it is always someone else’s fault. Never are the Jews to blame for how others react to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obtgaZ97Kdc
"God gave us free will; he gave us the choice to accept or reject god . . .
Jews rejected the messiah . . . and they killed him. In rejecting Jesus the messiah they rejected god, they rejected logos . . .
The gospel of John starts with, "In the beginning was the word" . . . what does word mean? In the Greek, it's "logos."
Logos is the order of the universe. Logos is the mind of god . . . Logos is the voice in us that tells us what is right and what is wrong . . ."
Great video. Thanks.
I think what you are saying is that the Logos is an ‘overmind’ to which we are all innately linked and from which intuition springs. When the link is strong, our Logos-fed intuition naturally guides us towards value systems, cultures and legal systems that are in tune with natural law. On a societal level, everything flows naturally and there is peace.
But when the link is severed, the newly isolated beings must build their own artificial value systems based upon a self-referential complex of core beliefs such as ‘we are the chosen people’ and ‘I think therefore I am’ and ‘there is no God’. As these foundations are artificial and arbitrary, subsequent thinking is freed of moral/ethical restrictions and societal depravity may arise.
It seems to me that what we’re really talking about here is satanism. Rather than allow the emergence of a belief system grounded in the Logos, the satanist first rejects existent belief systems then creates a new one and keeps it levitating in mental space purely by the energy of their own conscious intent. They believe they are the true masters of the universe and hone their metal abilities to create and maintain mental realities in accordance with their ego’s desire. They fool themselves, and lots of other people too.
So then, is exile from Israel a metaphor for the satanist’s mental departure from the Logos?
Anyway, Bacon liked to create metaphors and similes. He said there are three types of thinkers, Ants, Spiders, and Bees. Ants are very diligent, they scurry around gathering (information) but they do not put it to effective use.
Spiders draw upon a substance within themselves to spin theories and ideas; they do not necessarily relate to reality or truth (Truth being The Mind's Assent to Reality).
Bees also are very busy about gathering nectar (information) from nature, which they take to an organizing center where it is put in its proper place and put to creative use. (Spoiler Alert: Bees = the ideal Enlightenment thinker).When Ron Suskind quoted someone in the Bush White House as having said, "We create reality . . ." -- I thought, That is Spider thinking. And I believe Jews specialize in Spider thinking: they are very creative; they firmly believe that the web woven in their brains IS reality. But it often is not supported by the evidence of nature.
This entire composition was shockingly anti-Semitic. I wonder how the American public would feel if you analyzed African-Americans’ influence on entertainment and music, positing that they’ve devolved our culture to emoticons instead of language. How would it be received? You could single out stars like Jayzee and Kanye West. There would be riots in the street and outrage from every corner of academia, media and all other institutions, and rightfully so. I’m disgusted with this.
I am sure you know the answer to your own question. Obviously, it takes much more than a regional power to threaten the U.S. mainland; Iran certainly does not fit the bill.
I’ll be clear. There exists today, no reason to expect a war with Iran, neocon saber-rattling notwithstanding, theatrics from the Iran fan club notwithstanding either.
That doesn’t wish away, however, a few simple facts: the U.S. is, like it or not, the major global power with global interests to safeguard and advance; a power called upon to finance and guarantee the free ingress and egress of goods and services over every channel on the Earth’s surface and above. That these functions encounter resistance as the world re-balances is fully priced in; remarkable, or rather unremarkable, is the failure on the part of many to recognise the view from a long historical perspective, that the conduct of the U.S. as anything but good, misconducts exiguous, and moreover, the all too predictable repercussions, certain to arise, were the U.S. to not safeguard her interests and withdraw from bases of which the 36 are integral.
To reiterate, the U.S. does not seek war with Iran. But what could possibly be the set of reasons to ignore explicit threats against her military bases? If we have military bases surrounding Iran it is only so at the invitation of those nations hosting them, nations which positively care to align with U.S. policies.
At the same time, there are -- what, a dozen? more than a dozen? -- brand new/one-time commenters to this article,
Did Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, division of Hasbara hire on a bunch of temps? Are they threatening your rank? Are you a-fearing one of them might develop talents at diversion and obfuscation that outstrip your own?
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As for you Phil -- you do realize that this article is going to cost the US taxpayer, don't you? Somebody is going to have to pay for these extraneous keyboard warriors. I suggest we all phone our Congresscritters and respectfully suggest that they inform their AIPAC handlers that unless Israel outsources Hasbara to a call center in Bangalore, the annual stipend will be increased by only 4%.
That's the claim, but the reverse is more relevant - “strategic denial.”Engdahl writes here about Africa, but the same applies to ME of course.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-s-war-on-libya-is-directed-against-china-africom-and-the-threat-to-china-s-national-energy-security/26763
NATO’s War on Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the Threat to China’s National Energy Security
Otherwise... I would say you are a real time realist compared to me. Maybe I should leave my criticisms of America for its past and systematic failures in the waste basket of naive dreams. However....
I am hardly a naive idealist. I am a calculator and imaginative about what can go wrong, and I think I have a pretty realistic view of the range of human follies and prejudices. Consistently - I would say because I have long seen America's actual and growing weaknesses - I have seen America's true course as engaging China, especially, and Russia, with India perhaps to follow, in the management of the world. Instead of American hubris leading to impoverishment of the masses by militarism there could have been a flattering acknowledgment of what the great Chinese civilisation and the stalwart Russian people had to contribute to a highly innovative post Cold War world.
I have long said that neither the Chinese nor the Indians are going to let a bunch of oil rich Arabs or other Muslims hold them to ransom so, especially since the fracking revolution, why does the US spend its treasure on hubristic neo-con (including Rumsfeld and Cheney) fantasies except that the mind of the born again ex-governor of Texas was a vacant space waiting to be occupied by the few Americans who had mental passports and otganised ideas about the rest of the world.
Another version of my kind of realism you can treat as a test case..... While Australia should not drop the defence advantages it gets from close alliance with the US it should continue to treat itself as a country under no major threat in the forseeable future. Consider the populous and or rich and or powerful countries in our neighbouhood.
Would any one of Indonesia, China, Japan, South Korea or India take lightly interference with the well run quarry (and education provider to 500,000 of their children) that Australia is and will be for dwcades to come? Why couldn't the US have invited China and India to take over the burden and opportunities in Afghanistan? At least since frackung took off why shouldn't the Muslim ME and Central Asia be left to China, India and Russia to keep in order?
“For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up”
I have an idea, maybe we can put yellow stars on their clothing!
Now where did I leave my pitchfork?
Apparently, Unz.com thinks that bovine image adds more to the conversation about the influence of Jews than Joe McCarthy’s speech “George Washington’s Surrender,” excerpts of which I posted in my comment #289, but which someone at Unz decided to hide behind the [MORE] button.
When you get right down to it though, you people are saying that only the rich, influential Jews around the world are the ones controlling the course of the Middle East, the United States and God only knows how many other countries so that number is what, about 20 to 30 thousand people? Hell, let's go crazy and say it's one hundred thousand people. Is that what you are saying?
Seriously, is that what you people truly believe? If so then perhaps you should consider investing in Alcoa and other aluminum processors so you can have a ready supply of foil hats available to block out their insidious mind control beams.
Antisemitism is the one of the longest running games of finger pointing in the history of mankind. Since before the time of Christ Jews have been the world's whipping post, with no reasonable reason given. I seriously thought that thinking like this had gone the way of the pogroms that swept from one end to the European and Asian continents and back again in the middle Ages, which is what your level of reasoning amounts to.
All I can say is thank God that you people are a distinct minority in the world and that your paranoia filled conspiracies are still nothing but the ravings of a minuscule fringe of today's society. And God help us if you ever break into the mainstream.
Do you deny the basic theme of Giraldi’s article, to wit that Jewish organizations like AIPAC and rich Jews like Sheldon Edelson are keen to get the US into a war against Iran for Israel’s benefit?
Giraldi is not blaming the Jews “for the ills of the country, or the world” as you suggest. Giraldi makes the case convincingly that the Jewish establishment have a very significant degree of control over US middle eastern policy and that that is detrimental to the USA as it puts Israeli interests ahead of American interests.
I have an idea, maybe we can put yellow stars on their clothing!
Why should these guys get to pretend they are delivering disinterested commentary when they are shills for the Zionist enterprise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8FlJy62Y8
The fastest way to bankrupt a nation is to engage in endless warfare.
Wall Street’s initiation of WW I and WW II (Robert Stinnett, DAY OF DECEIT) is well documented. After 1947, the task was given to the CIA to conceal WS involvement (Stephen Kinzer, THE BROTHERS; David Talbot, DEVIL’S CHESSBOARD; John Perkins, CONFESSIONS OF ECONOMIC HIT MAN).
CIA action has evolved into SE Asia, Afghanistan, and Iran. (Douglas Valentine, CIA AS ORGANIZED CRIME; Michel Chossudovsky, GLOBALIZATION OF WAR). [Valentine has written CIA actions he has seen overseas is observed in the US.] Multitudinous world-wide actions are documented by William Blum (KILLING HOPE) with numerous updates added on the internet by others.
And still our Republicans attempt to tout fiscal responsibility includes unlimited military expenditure even after the audit of billions of dollars loss investigation in the Pentagon being destroyed by the 9/11 target by ferriners? And nobody fingers WS ??
Well said. The cost of ignoring the obvious is too great and we need to man up and say what needs to be said for the sake of all the people whose lives will be lost or ruined by further wars. Russia is also a Jewish issue. Jews preferred Russia under Communism. They have centuries old hostilities with the Slavs and look to US, EU and NATO to keep the Slavs from self-government and on the path to PC now that Communism is gone and Christianity is reviving. Why American Christians seem not to have noticed or to care that 70 years of outlawing and vilifying the faith have come to an end is beyond me. Self-hating Christians? Learned haplessness? Republican’s Disease? ALSO, Jews worry that North Korea will help Iran arm itself against Israel and are considerably more likely than gentiles to push us into irrational nuclear catastrophe. Kim correctly fears US neocons have regime change in mind and don’t care if a large number of Koreans get killed along the way.
There’ll soon be a separate department of Hasbara trolls for Unz dot com
Yo, Sam, your outdoing yourself in contorted abductive reasoning.
At the same time, there are — what, a dozen? more than a dozen? — brand new/one-time commenters to this article,
Did Israel’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, division of Hasbara hire on a bunch of temps? Are they threatening your rank? Are you a-fearing one of them might develop talents at diversion and obfuscation that outstrip your own?
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As for you Phil — you do realize that this article is going to cost the US taxpayer, don’t you? Somebody is going to have to pay for these extraneous keyboard warriors. I suggest we all phone our Congresscritters and respectfully suggest that they inform their AIPAC handlers that unless Israel outsources Hasbara to a call center in Bangalore, the annual stipend will be increased by only 4%.
Ever occurred to you that this alleged Cornwallis confession is fake?
I have been searching in vain for any speeches given by McCarthy in late '56. Either that material has all been scrubbed, or someone has made up out of whole cloth the entire story of this alleged speech by Joe McCarthy, and Cornwallis's warning from Legions of Satan by Jonathan Williams, who indeed served under Washington at Yorktown, and who was an author, but no trace of the book.
Over at David Icke forum, one commenter gave an Amazon link (dead) for Legions of Satan, while others cite sources claiming the book had been removed from the Library of Congress, once was in 50 libraries, but none now, etc...
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=98265
When I last visited this issue several years ago, I recall finding more on it, but many of the links seem to have gone dead. As it stands, I can't find much to support the idea that McCarthy even gave such a speech
Pending further research, I will retract my griping and grumbling about the [more] button, and acknowledge that Unz.com may have reasonable justification to hide the alleged speech.
But you gotta admit - this one has lit up some radars in Tel Aviv and elsewhere. I think we're going to break our previous record. This thing could easily be the "Titanic"* of UNZ forums.
Peace.
*For a host of reasons, eh?
this one has lit up some radars in Tel Aviv and elsewhere
Yes, it has lit up some bumper bars outside of this little rabbit hole.
Think about this, Talha:
In the outside it is playing out as anti-Semitism, and will be disregarded and flushed. Suppose that he had chosen his language differently and made his point without all of the Jew mongering; the article could still have legs out there. The outside discussion could be going on about extremist hawks and warmongers leading us into more failed wars. Instead, it is all about dem Jews. If you are sincere about ending our excessive interventions and wars, why would you make the discussion about Jews rather than the wars and the people who initiate and goad them along? You have switched the focus from excessive war and intervention on the part of the US to dem Jews, and that insures that the important issue, too many wars, will not be discussed.
I wouldn't have worded some of the things the same way - due to the same concerns you brought up. I think Neocons and war-mongers of all stripes need to be targeted and exposed (and definitely many of them are Israeli-firsters whether they are Jews or not) - for instance, Saudis get too easy of a pass on these issues.
I did think Mr. Giraldi was attempting to clarify by using phrases like:
Those American Jews who...
For those American Jews who...
But it seems some of the better insights he has in the matter (and some of his suggestions about common sense policies in putting neutral people in positions like ambassadors - for instance, I should not be allowed to be an ambassador to Pakistan since I still have family there) are being drowned out by the cloud of controversy - which is a shame.
Peace.
So what you are really saying is, if it didn't keep calling out the Jews, the Jews would like it more. Well that's certainly logical!
Unfortunately, many of us are well past a point where we care what they like. We know full well that they are a problem and we assign great respect to authors such as Mr. Giraldi who are able to clearly, eloquently and fairly point out the elephant in the room and all the damage it's causing to the furniture.
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I'm aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it's the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world's sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won't happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz, ;) there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be 'good for the Jews', you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: 'what is good for the Jews' ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they're perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn't warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it... Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was "very good", and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who've pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn't Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/03/04/opinion/4wed1WEB/4wed1WEB-master1050.jpg
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered 'good for Israel'.
It isn't your Jewish dentist who's to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn't the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they're unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I'm reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
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What is your source or sources or argument for saying Israel knew in advance about 9/11?
a group of five Mossad agents were arrested after they were seen dancing and 'high fiving' and celebrating the first plane hitting the WTC. They were held by the FBI for several months until Israeli citizen and future head of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff allowed them to quietly return to Israel, where they eventually went on Israeli television and explained that they were there to "document the event".
If they were there to document the event, then the Mossad knew that 9/11 was about to happen. And if the Mossad knew, then the Israeli government also knew.
the owner of the WTC, one 'Lucky Larry Silverstein', was (and presumably still is) a close friend of Netanyahu, and they were known to speak on the phone regularly.
check out 'Lucky Larry' too, (if you have a strong stomach)
And I also wanted to mention the disservice to this country and yourself done by Valerie Plame for her disavowal of this article, and even worse, her pandering apology for tweeting it. She and everyone else in the political arena and media knows it to be true. I'm shocked she was so easily intimidated.
Nevertheless, I will continue to post on internet articles about Mid East policy making your assessment as follows: “….the Israeli government is a rogue regime ….Worse still, it has successfully manipulated.. the US, and has done terrible damage both to our political system and to the American people, a crime that I just cannot forgive, condone, or explain away."
And I also wanted to mention the disservice to this country and yourself done by Valerie Plame for her disavowal of this article, and even worse, her pandering apology for tweeting it.
ROTFL. Actually, her disavowal only vindicated Giraldi’s point.
any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity. Jewish groups and deep pocket individual donors not only control the politicians, they own and run the media and entertainment industries, meaning that no one will hear about or from the offending party ever again.
I think it’s turned into a game of know-but-no. Jewish globalists know they got the power. People like Plame know. They know-know but play no-no. It’s Mutual Pretense Pact on the premise that if you say No to what you Know, you will be showered with prizes. If not, you will be exiled.
Everyone, this is all about the Jewish banking system. The only two countries’ banking systems that the Jews do not control are North Korea and Iran. Before 9/11 there were 5 or 6 countries that were not controlled by Jews. That changed quickly didn’t it? Once they have the last two banks, globalism will have won. Nationalism won’t mean anything. President Wilson lost America for us when he gave our money to the Federal Reserve, which is a private bank, to keep his extra-marital affair out of the Jewish press.
And FYI who ever thinks Jews are white is wrong; they are genetically and biological different from caucasians. They have lower IQs and have more genetic diseases.
fully priced in?
like the oil embargo we suffered when Nixon pulled out all the stops to save Israel’s arse after she attacked her neighbors in 67? You remember, the year of the cowardly attack on the USS Liberty?
was that priced in?
how about all the hatred and inflated oil prices the energy hungry US has suffered for decades since Jewish terrorists murdered the inhabitants of Palestine and stole their land? How many billion$ has been looted from the American tax slave to lavish on Israel and Egypt in order to bribe them to get along?
was that priced in?
what about the serial wars we’ve fought against Israel’s well-earned enemies over the years and decades? You can even go back to the Balfour Declaration to see that Jews have been using treachery and corruption to drag Americans into wars on their behalf for over a century.
Was that priced in, eh Sam?
how about 9/11, and the loss of our hard won freedoms, codified in blood by our sacred Constitution, all tossed out the window by neocon regimes in order to effectively make all Americans into Palestinians, with check points and total police state surveillance. Even if you leave out that it was obviously Israel that had its fingers all over 9/11.
Was that also priced in?
not to mention the racial strife and hatred and cultural sewage America suffers from a Hollywood and Madison Ave. that relentlessly portrays (especially German and Southern) white men as evil or pathetic or both.
how do we price that in Sam? By what metric do we cypher the cost of relentless hatred and abuse and untold victims of hate-crimes against whites that are always spiked and ignored by the Jewish media?
how do we calculate the cost of wars, loss of our freedoms, well-earned hatred of the people of the planet who are sick of our serial belligerence on behalf of that ‘shitty little state’, not to mention all the cultural rot and hatred and racial tension that can all be traced right back to Jewish Hollywood and all those precious SJW celebrities that refer to us as irredeemable and deplorable because we’re sick and tired of being second-class citizens in our own countries.
What about the serial looting on Wall Street with Goldman Sachs holding the keys to our Treasury? Or the missing trillions from the Pentagon under the watchful eye of Israeli citizen rabbi Dov Zakheim?
I doubt it will be a simple matter to price all of that in, and figure just how much this special relationship has actually cost America in blood and treasure and something even more important; our very souls.
Israel has made us Americans into genocidal, mass-murdering fiends on the global stage Sam.
they’ve robbed our children of their innocence, and sent our young men and women to slaughter, main and displace millions of innocent people the world over or die trying.
has that too been ‘priced in’ Sam?’
Someone asked me for a list of all American Jews because they make up less than 2% of Americans. Well, 300,000,000 x 2% = 6,000,000. I’ll just consult the Complete Database Registry of American Jews and spook that off for him.
I was raised Jewish. Never heard a single Jew state that “what’s good for the Jew” is a principle. Neither have I ever heard a single Jew profess a preference for Israel over the US. All I’ve ever heard is “Thank god I was born in the US, where I’m safe and free to love a ‘normal’ life.”
Why are Jews obligated to speak out about Wolfowotz, et al? Are Christians obligates to speak out against every stupid Christian?
And now I have people asserting that I’m not white? For realz? I sure LOOK white. I dress white. I play hockey, I shop at The Gap — I gotta be white!
Why is it that none of the faithful here respond to assertions that the leadership is Christian. You know: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi Rice; Trump, Pence, all the generals surrounding Trump. Christians all. But Da Joos is starting all dem wars, dammit!
And what’s this “they’re not ‘real Jews’” stuff? WTF is a “real Jew”? What are you talking about?
BTW, those supposed excerpts from the Talmud saying that Jews are to use Gentiles as servants are total BS. I know many here will simply find some “alt” site that says it’s true, and wouldn’t believe me even if I taught them to read and translate Hebrew (which would be a neat trick, because I don’t know how to read and translate Hebrew), they still wouldn’t believe it. (“Well, then how do you know it’s BS if you just admitted that you can’t translate it yourself?” Because I know someone who can, that’s how. Derp.) Since some seem to think themselves to learned in the Talmud, they should check out http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html.
Maybe the most important thing, re “Jews are the chosen people”. Do Christians not believe that one must accept Christ as his lord and savior to gain entry to heaven? Isnt it a fundamental tenet of all deist religions that it’s adherents are “right” in their worship? So, would it be so awful of Jews thought they worshipped in the “right” way? Now to really mess you up: it really means that Jews were (supposedly) chosen to spread gods word, not that they were superior.
And how many people do you think believe any of that rot anyway? How many Jews do you think have read the Talmud? FFS, how many of the conspiracy theorists here have any contact with any Jews? Are you certain you’d even know, or that you wouldn’t like some of them if you did know them?
You know why I’m Jewish? The same reason that the vast majority of people are Jewish/Christian/Muslim/whatever: because my parents are. Over the years, I occasionally went to temple, learned some lore (like the story of the Chanukah candles, or Masada, or the Maccabees kicking some ass) and came to feel like it was “my” history a bit, that my ancestors did some cool shit.
Maybe the chasidim (the guys with the long sideburns) believe some of the nasty things attributed to Jews, or maybe they don’t, but if they did, it’d be like saying all Christians are nuts because Jim Jones served poison Kool Aid.
I don’t want to move to Israel. I like it here. I don’t speak Hebrew and I don’t particularly want to learn. I like baseball, football, and hockey. I was born American and that’s where my allegiance is. Sure, I root for Israel, as I think it’s important that Jews have a place to run if Nazi-like insanity ever recurs, and because Israel is the most America-like country in the region. But I also root for Canada and England, because they too are like us and allies.
This has become a ridiculously long rant. Can’t we all just be nice to each other? Is it that friggin’ hard?
Human nature.Good luck.
oh geeze
it was Johnson in 67, who allowed Israel to murder our sailors on the USS Liberty
Nixon came to their aid in 73!
I can’t keep all of Israel’s wars Americans have to die in straight
but then, it’s not like they teach all of that in our kosher schools now, is it?
Goebbels couldn’t express it better. According to Giraldi’s philosophy, it was a great pitty that America followed the jewish credo and fought against symbols of morality such as Nazi Germany, U.S.S.R, Comunist China, Hussein’s Iraq, El Qaida, ISIS and now possibly Iran and North Korea.
LOL. Giraldi is not a fan of world powers. He’s skeptical of all power. Also, it was Jews, not people like Giraldi, who had a huge role in Soviet Bolshevism, which led to fears in Europe that led to support of Fascism and National Socialism. Also, it was Jews who during most of the Cold War attacked anti-communists as ‘paranoid’. Many Jews were opposed to the Vietnam War and cheered for Castro in Cuba. And it was Liberals who were happier with Nixon’s opening to China. Jews now bitch about Russia ‘hacking’ and stir up all this hysteria, but I grew up being told a million times by Jews how crazy this nation was during McCarthyite paranoia. Now, I understand. Jews were ‘anti-paranoia’ then and are now ‘pro-paranoia’ now for the same reason: Jewish interests. Back then, Wasp conservatives went after Jewish radicals. So, Jews denounced it as ‘paranoia’. Now, Jews got the supreme power and blacklist and censor their critics and enemies. So, they push ‘paranoia’ about ‘nazis’ and ‘kkk’.
Giraldi isn’t admiring of foreign regimes. He just thinks US role in world affairs has often been self-serving or imperialist under the guise of ‘human rights’, a political weapon that is used so
sham-selectively.
In the past, Wasp Military Industrial Complex was most responsible for US military involvements.
Today, much of US foreign policy revolves around Jewish neurosis since Jews are in top positions.
Should the US, which is 98% gentile, be so slavish to Jewish interests? Now, if Israel is all about Jewish interests, that is understandable since it is a Jewish state that serves Jewish power.
But when 98% of Americans who are not Jewish are supposed to serve Jewish interests in world affairs, that’s nuts. It’s like Hindus being forced to serve British interests than their own during the Age of Empire. Brits told Hindus that they are part of the Glorious British Empire and that their first loyalty must be to the King or Queen of Britain. But why?
We don’t have to admire Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and etc. The thing is they are NOT ‘New Nazis’, and they pose no threat to us. Jews hate them because they are either a rival of Israel(esp Iran) or because they represent national sovereignty when so much of the world is now under the hegemony of Jewish-Homo hegemony.
Also, Jewish Power gains from the clash of titans. If gentiles are bashing and hating one another, Jews can do yojimbo and work all sides against one another. Jews pose as friends to all of them while pitting all sides against each other. Notice how Netanyahu plays both Putin and the US. Because of the Holocaust-as-religion, it is taboo for ANY nation to badmouth Jews. So, all sides seek support of Jews. Even people who are attacked by Jews have to pay protection money to Jews. Russia does this all the time. Russia is the main target of Jewish ire, but Putin has to work with Jews to reduce the vitriol. Jewish venom against Russia knows no bounds, but Russians have to be very nice to Jews.
If you’re a banker, you want to lend money to both sides. While they bash each other, they need your money. Also, if you don’t want the people to come after your kind, you have to make the people hate other people. As long as dumb Americans are made to hate Russians, Iranians, Chinese, Syrians, Venezuelans, North Koreans, Cubans, Libyans, and etc. they have no time to ponder WHO has the real Power.
Just a quick note: I ranted via cell phone, so please pardon the many typos.
By Gilbert Porter Blythe
October 19, 2003
Since September 11, 2001, George W. Bush has made no attempt to understand the motives of people who hate us. A few hours after the World Trade Center collapsed, he announced that "America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world." Two days later, he spoke of terrorists who "hate our values" and "hate what America stands for." President Bush has never deviated from this theme. He insists that attacks on our soldiers in Iraq are led by people who "hate freedom."
In Mr. Bush's view, Arabs, the Taliban, al Qaeda, and Muslims all around the world do not hate us because we have hurt them or harmed their interests in any way. They hate us because they hate freedom, and America stands for freedom. It is only a small step to conclude that they hate us because we are good and they are bad. Some of the president's less simple-minded advisors paint a slightly more complex picture: Arabs are jealous of America's cultural and economic success, and their oppressive regimes channel internal discontent into hatred for America and Israel.
It is convenient but dangerous for Americans to convince themselves that their enemies have no real grievances, but want to kill us only because they hate our goodness and blame us for their own failures. If they really hate us for what we are rather than what we do, they cannot be reasoned with but must be treated as dangerous madmen. We need not think seriously about their motives or consider what we may have done to injure or offend them.
The almost deliberate blindness required for this point of view is particularly evident in the president's insistence that Iraqis attack our soldiers because the attackers "hate freedom." What they hate, of course, is occupation by foreigners, rule by infidels, daily humiliation, and the steady stream of Iraqi casualties added to the estimated tens of thousands we killed during the initial phase of the war. They do not hate freedom; they seek freedom from occupation and humiliation.
To insist that Osama bin Laden also hates freedom is equally obtuse, in light of his clearly stated reasons for opposing the United States: the presence of American troops on the sacred soil of Saudi Arabia, economic sanctions against Iraq, and especially our unwavering support for Israel. In his October 18 message to Americans he was quite explicit: "We are counting our dead, may God bless them, especially in Palestine, who are killed by your allies the Jews. We are going to take revenge for them from your blood, God willing, as we did on the day of New York." Mr. bin Laden has frequently denounced what he describes as the cultural and moral decadence of the West, but he has never cited it as a reason to kill us.
It is only by convincing ourselves we are the blameless victims of unfathomable hatred that we can justify acts that shock the world and that even our European allies oppose: preemptive war, unilateral violence, and detention without charges. We are so convinced of our own purity and of the irrational wickedness of our enemies that we turn on our former friends, most strikingly against the French, if they fail to understand that we are in a struggle of pure good versus pure evil.
There is a not-coincidental similarity between the president's views of good and evil and the Jewish preoccupation with anti-Semitism. Jews have always insisted that if gentiles dislike them it is because of who they are, not what they do. Adopting a view like that of Mr. Bush's view of attacks against the United States, they refuse to consider whether their own actions may cause hostility. In the United States, the Anti-Defamation League, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and countless smaller organizations are on constant alert for anti-Semitism anywhere in the world, yet the ADL and the Wiesenthal Center are silent as to why anyone would dislike Jews. The Steven Roth Institute of Contemporary Anti-Semitism and Racism at Tel Aviv University has extensive files of reported anti-Semitism but nothing to say about what causes it. For those organizations, anti-Semitism is like Mr. Bush's conception of Osama bin Laden: an irrational upwelling of pure evil.
Some Jews have tried to explain anti-Semitism. Hannah Arendt concluded that 20th-century anti-Semitism was an outgrowth of totalitarian Marxism and Nazism that somehow singled out Jews as unacceptable outsiders. Theodor Adorno and Max Horkheimer of the Frankfurt School argued that it was part of what they called "the authoritarian personality" and was something akin to mental illness. In his 1978 book In Bluebird's Castle, George Steiner wrote that Nazis were anti-Semites because Jews had better, more humane values. Robert Wistrich, who calls anti-Semitism "the longest hatred," published his views in a 1999 book whose title summarizes his findings: Demonizing the Other.
Some Jews have argued that Christians hate Jews because they see them as "Christ-killers," but that does not explain persistent hostility toward Jews by the ancient Greeks and Romans, or why Muslims have repeatedly repressed Jews. The most common view among Jews is the one expressed by the World Union of Jewish Students in its brief Internet discussion of the causes of anti-Semitism, in which it concludes it is a "persistent hate without logic." That is an almost perfect expression of Mr. Bush's view of anti-American terror: it, too, is "hate without logic."
The Jewish dismissal of gentile grievances is just as sweeping and self-serving as Mr. Bush's dismissal of Arab and Muslim grievances against us. Human beings do not "hate without logic." Sustained hatred takes too much energy for it to be wasted on millions of innocents. Over the centuries, Jews have been disliked because of their clannishness, contempt for non-Jews, disrespect for national institutions, disloyalty, sharp business practices, and many other things people do not like. But just as Mr. Bush has convinced himself that the Iraqis who attack our soldiers "hate freedom," Jews have convinced themselves they are blameless targets of irrational hatred.
For many Jews, any criticism of Jews or of Israel is hatred and bigotry. Practically the entire world deplores Israel's treatment of Palestinians, yet the Israeli authorities refuse to examine their own motives or behavior. Instead, they insist their critics are anti-Semites, meaning, presumably, that if any other group treated Palestinians as they do, the world would approve.
It is, of course, very much in the interest of American Jews to encourage Mr. Bush in his delusions about the motives of our enemies. Arabs and Muslims hate us primarily because we support Israel and pay for the weapons with which it kills Palestinians. If we were to think about the motives of terrorists rather than dismiss them as delusional murderers, we might reconsider our support for Israel. That would be anathema for Jews, many of whom make no secret of their passionate commitment to Israel.
For the many influential Jews in Mr. Bush's circle and in the media, that is why it is important to encourage Americans to think like Jews, that is, to ignore or downplay the concrete reasons others may have to hate us, and to think of them as irrational fanatics who respond only to force. It is in the interest of Jews for gentiles to think like Jews, to see the world as a black-and-white battleground of the virtuous against the wicked, rather than as a complex tangle of competing claims in which there may be legitimacy on both sides. George W. Bush is only the most important and powerful convert to that view of the world.
It would be entirely in keeping with our increasingly Jewish way of thinking to invent a new word, analogous to anti-Semitism, to describe those who hate freedom. "Anti-libertism" or "libertophobia" are awkward constructions, but with enough repetition, Americans could be trained to believe that all attacks on the United States are just vicious, irrational acts of "anti-libertism" to be forcibly put down. Acts of "anti-libertism" obviously would be the work of maniacs rather than rational men acting on real grievances.
In fact, the word is unnecessary. We already have the word we need. Only America stands with Israel in a world filled with anti-Semites. Only the United States defended Israel when it bombed what it said was a terrorist camp in Syria in retaliation for a Palestinian suicide bombing in October. Only the United States and its client states — Micronesia and the Marshall Islands — voted with Israel against a UN General Assembly resolution in September urging Israel to withdraw its threat to "remove" Yasser Arafat. No fewer than 133 nations voted the other way. In 2001, when delegates to a conference on racism in South Africa criticized Israel, only the Americans walked out in solidarity with Israel. It is no surprise that the Arab world sees America and Israel as joint enemies. Muslims burn American flags at the same rallies at which they burn Israeli flags, and chant "death to America" with almost as much as passion as they chant "death to Israel."
Mr. Bush may as well announce that American and Israeli interests really are indistinguishable, and that attacks on the United States are really attacks on Israel, motivated by the same blinkered hatreds. Let us therefore use the word that most readily comes to mind, and recognize that those who hate us are, first and foremost, anti-Semites and that hatred of America is simply another form of "the longest hatred." More than ever, in our thinking and in our behavior, we are all Jews now.
Thanks for this.
It appears to have been published on The Last Ditch/Thornwalker. http://www.thornwalker.com/ditch/othercontents.htm
iirc, Dr. Stephen Sniegoski’s The Transparent Cabal debuted on http://www.thornwalker, then found mainstream publication
http://www.culturewars.com/2010/Cabal.html
The Transparent Cabal presents evidence and argument for the claim that
At the same time, there are -- what, a dozen? more than a dozen? -- brand new/one-time commenters to this article,
Did Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, division of Hasbara hire on a bunch of temps? Are they threatening your rank? Are you a-fearing one of them might develop talents at diversion and obfuscation that outstrip your own?
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As for you Phil -- you do realize that this article is going to cost the US taxpayer, don't you? Somebody is going to have to pay for these extraneous keyboard warriors. I suggest we all phone our Congresscritters and respectfully suggest that they inform their AIPAC handlers that unless Israel outsources Hasbara to a call center in Bangalore, the annual stipend will be increased by only 4%.
You fall victim to linear thinking. I’ll only state this for your relief, that the pursuit of international negotiations, dealmaking if you will, is best practiced in layers. Warmer relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and therefore with other parties, are in the offing. Hasan Rouhani is deeply engaged in severely limiting the IRGC’s influence in the economy just as Mohd Bin Salman is seriously considering the removal of hardline al-Jubeir from his foreign ministry.
No need to push yourself into this self-feeding binary world of mental tussles.
sham-selectively.
In the past, Wasp Military Industrial Complex was most responsible for US military involvements.
Today, much of US foreign policy revolves around Jewish neurosis since Jews are in top positions.
Should the US, which is 98% gentile, be so slavish to Jewish interests? Now, if Israel is all about Jewish interests, that is understandable since it is a Jewish state that serves Jewish power.
But when 98% of Americans who are not Jewish are supposed to serve Jewish interests in world affairs, that's nuts. It's like Hindus being forced to serve British interests than their own during the Age of Empire. Brits told Hindus that they are part of the Glorious British Empire and that their first loyalty must be to the King or Queen of Britain. But why? We don't have to admire Russia, China, Iran, Syria, and etc. The thing is they are NOT 'New Nazis', and they pose no threat to us. Jews hate them because they are either a rival of Israel(esp Iran) or because they represent national sovereignty when so much of the world is now under the hegemony of Jewish-Homo hegemony. Also, Jewish Power gains from the clash of titans. If gentiles are bashing and hating one another, Jews can do yojimbo and work all sides against one another. Jews pose as friends to all of them while pitting all sides against each other. Notice how Netanyahu plays both Putin and the US. Because of the Holocaust-as-religion, it is taboo for ANY nation to badmouth Jews. So, all sides seek support of Jews. Even people who are attacked by Jews have to pay protection money to Jews. Russia does this all the time. Russia is the main target of Jewish ire, but Putin has to work with Jews to reduce the vitriol. Jewish venom against Russia knows no bounds, but Russians have to be very nice to Jews.
If you're a banker, you want to lend money to both sides. While they bash each other, they need your money. Also, if you don't want the people to come after your kind, you have to make the people hate other people. As long as dumb Americans are made to hate Russians, Iranians, Chinese, Syrians, Venezuelans, North Koreans, Cubans, Libyans, and etc. they have no time to ponder WHO has the real Power.
My god, why are so many people convinced that Jews view gentiles as “others”? You think I think less of my kids because their mother is catholic? Or like my closest friends – none of whom is Jewish – any less? If there are these smoke-filled rooms where plots are hatched and monies disbursed, why haven’t I been invited? Not even once! It’s just so ridiculous…
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
Well it seems to be a common belief amongst the leading Jewish intelligencia. I mean, did Sontag include Jews in her condemnation?
The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.[
Alan Dershowitz went on the Neo-Con Network Fox News and attacked “Girardi” for so-called “anti-Semitism.” Manners prevent me from suggesting that the anti-White scoundrel Dershowitz deliberately mispronounced the name of Giraldi just to be a snot.
Joe Girardi was a fine baseball player and is now the manager of the New York Yankees. Since Dershowitz is a professor at Harvard in Boston, it could be that Dershowitz is so used to hearing “Girardi” while watching baseball games that he made an honest mistake. Since I don’t think Dershowitz is capable of any honesty whatsoever, I think Dershowitz did it to be a snot.
Philip Giraldi should write about how Rupert Murdoch and the Murdoch Mob allows the Neo-Cons and those who support them to have prime television coverage of their opinions and worldviews. If Giraldi has covered Murdoch’s Neo-Con proclivities previously, perhaps he could update his stance on the Murdoch Mob.
Dershowitz on the Murdoch Mob’s Fox News Neo-Con propaganda network:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/22/alan-dershowitz-valerie-plame-tweeting-anti-semitic-article-jews-causing-americas-wars
Google (or Bing or DuckDuckGo) the “dancing Israelis”
a group of five Mossad agents were arrested after they were seen dancing and ‘high fiving’ and celebrating the first plane hitting the WTC. They were held by the FBI for several months until Israeli citizen and future head of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff allowed them to quietly return to Israel, where they eventually went on Israeli television and explained that they were there to “document the event”.
If they were there to document the event, then the Mossad knew that 9/11 was about to happen. And if the Mossad knew, then the Israeli government also knew.
the owner of the WTC, one ‘Lucky Larry Silverstein’, was (and presumably still is) a close friend of Netanyahu, and they were known to speak on the phone regularly.
check out ‘Lucky Larry’ too, (if you have a strong stomach)
This is a repulsive article, it really is. There’s nothing wrong with being jewish and arguing for policies that might favor fellow jews: the policies are good or bad for the United States as well regardless of the religion of the people who advocate them, just as there is nothing wrong with being a woman and arguing for policies that might benefit women. This is a really repellant piece.
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matt. 10:34)
Kill Thy Enemies, Awkward Moments Children's Bible
www.awkwardmomentsbible.com/jihadjesus/
Also, let's not forget...
"[T]he Quran derives from a Syriac Christian lectionary."
The Christian Origins of Islam
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2012/12/the-christian-origins-of-islam
"Much to my surprise, the Islamic scriptures in the Quran were actually far less bloody and less violent than those in the Bible," Jenkins says.
Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?
npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788
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The Old Testament is Jewish – NOT Christian. The Old and New Testaments are NOT the same – there is a meaningful difference. The Old Testament is filled with evil – it has an evil bloody revengeful mean god in it. It celebrates Jew massacres and slaughters. The Old Testament is tribal — the New Testament universal and peace seeking.
Jesus said “blessed are the peacemakers – live by the sword die by the sword.”
Jesus gave us a different view of god – his view is hopeful and forgiving.
There are many foolish Christians who follow the Old Testament tribal imperatives of the Jews.
The Old Testament bible pounders are not being Christian when they advocate tribal wars.
Think Peace — Art
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I'm aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it's the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world's sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won't happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz, ;) there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be 'good for the Jews', you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: 'what is good for the Jews' ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they're perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn't warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it... Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was "very good", and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who've pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn't Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/03/04/opinion/4wed1WEB/4wed1WEB-master1050.jpg
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered 'good for Israel'.
It isn't your Jewish dentist who's to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn't the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they're unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I'm reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
https://cdn.lrb.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jersey-cow.png
Well, why not then
“Imagine if every Anglo-Saxon in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!”
or, even better
“Imagine if every CITIZEN in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!”
Looking from outside this post has the most comments (and still running strong).
But, looking at those comments……man……it’s………..interesting.
A lot of them feel, for me, like:
“A person is fat. He’s fat because he is weak and lazy. He can’t stop gorging on all those hamburgers. He can’t stand physical exercise, let alone physical work. But he can’t admit it to himself. So, he blames McDonald’s. And all his friends, all like him, agree. They have found the core cause for them being fat. Bad….bad….McDonald’s”.
Feels great.
Explains everything.
“….guarantee the free ingress and egress of goods and services ….”
That’s the claim, but the reverse is more relevant – “strategic denial.”
Engdahl writes here about Africa, but the same applies to ME of course.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/nato-s-war-on-libya-is-directed-against-china-africom-and-the-threat-to-china-s-national-energy-security/26763
NATO’s War on Libya is Directed against China: AFRICOM and the Threat to China’s National Energy Security
I feel your pain, JoeCool, but on the flip side.
When I go to the library to try to find out about what my Mother’s life was like in Italy, and what she must have felt when she was forced to leave because of war, I’m confronted with row upon row upon row of books on holocaust, and this, that and the other Jew’s expressions of their suffering, but very little about Italy, in an essential way.
I know that thousands of Italians died in WWII — most of them by Allies; and that tens of thousands of Italian children were orphaned by the war. But when I search online for information about “Italian war orphans,” the top hits are about “the largest orphanage in Italy” in the war, that housed Jewish children, in a building that had been designed & built for Italians. Jews want the building preserved as a museum to “Jewish suffering.”
Jews have sucked all of the oxygen out of the affairs of not just Italy but of so many other countries and peoples.
Can you understand this on a human level — We want to pass on to our children and grandchildren what their grandparents’ lives were like.
I was trying to learn about the military campaign in which my Father was injured, and somehow came across articles in Der Spiegel about how German children are urged to demand that their grandparents ‘fess up, before they die, “What did you do in the war, Grandpa? Did you apologize for killing Jews?”
That’s low.
That’s snaketurd low, JoeCool.
I can’t think of anything lower or more disgusting or dehumanizing than to teach a child to hate his grandpa.
I get it that you, JoeCool, didn’t do that. Somebody whose absorbed with hockey and baseball? Nah. (btw, to the extent that such activities represent What it means to be American, USA is screwed; such things are distractions — but never mind ). So it wasn’t you who started the campaign to teach German children to hate their grandparents.
Somebody did.
And it was probably Jews.
As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.
I can’t get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.
If I’m wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so.
It’s even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated ‘histories’ and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that’s just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents — their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.
Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences.
What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.
So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
I wish I could say you were wrong, Solon; but I can't.
Some people didn't even get to know about their Grandpa.
Some have Grandpas like mine who sent my Dad into the coal mines at age 15 and took his pay every week. Worked right alongside some of your peeps, S2C. They were dagos then, but that was a long time ago.
I was raised Jewish. Never heard a single Jew state that “what’s good for the Jew” is a principle. Neither have I ever heard a single Jew profess a preference for Israel over the US. All I’ve ever heard is “Thank god I was born in the US, where I’m safe and free to love a ‘normal’ life.”
Why are Jews obligated to speak out about Wolfowotz, et al? Are Christians obligates to speak out against every stupid Christian?
And now I have people asserting that I’m not white? For realz? I sure LOOK white. I dress white. I play hockey, I shop at The Gap -- I gotta be white!
Why is it that none of the faithful here respond to assertions that the leadership is Christian. You know: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi Rice; Trump, Pence, all the generals surrounding Trump. Christians all. But Da Joos is starting all dem wars, dammit!
And what’s this “they’re not ‘real Jews’” stuff? WTF is a “real Jew”? What are you talking about?
BTW, those supposed excerpts from the Talmud saying that Jews are to use Gentiles as servants are total BS. I know many here will simply find some “alt” site that says it’s true, and wouldn’t believe me even if I taught them to read and translate Hebrew (which would be a neat trick, because I don’t know how to read and translate Hebrew), they still wouldn’t believe it. (“Well, then how do you know it’s BS if you just admitted that you can’t translate it yourself?” Because I know someone who can, that’s how. Derp.) Since some seem to think themselves to learned in the Talmud, they should check out http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html.
Maybe the most important thing, re “Jews are the chosen people”. Do Christians not believe that one must accept Christ as his lord and savior to gain entry to heaven? Isnt it a fundamental tenet of all deist religions that it’s adherents are “right” in their worship? So, would it be so awful of Jews thought they worshipped in the “right” way? Now to really mess you up: it really means that Jews were (supposedly) chosen to spread gods word, not that they were superior.
And how many people do you think believe any of that rot anyway? How many Jews do you think have read the Talmud? FFS, how many of the conspiracy theorists here have any contact with any Jews? Are you certain you’d even know, or that you wouldn’t like some of them if you did know them?
You know why I’m Jewish? The same reason that the vast majority of people are Jewish/Christian/Muslim/whatever: because my parents are. Over the years, I occasionally went to temple, learned some lore (like the story of the Chanukah candles, or Masada, or the Maccabees kicking some ass) and came to feel like it was “my” history a bit, that my ancestors did some cool shit.
Maybe the chasidim (the guys with the long sideburns) believe some of the nasty things attributed to Jews, or maybe they don’t, but if they did, it’d be like saying all Christians are nuts because Jim Jones served poison Kool Aid.
I don’t want to move to Israel. I like it here. I don’t speak Hebrew and I don’t particularly want to learn. I like baseball, football, and hockey. I was born American and that’s where my allegiance is. Sure, I root for Israel, as I think it’s important that Jews have a place to run if Nazi-like insanity ever recurs, and because Israel is the most America-like country in the region. But I also root for Canada and England, because they too are like us and allies.
This has become a ridiculously long rant. Can’t we all just be nice to each other? Is it that friggin’ hard?
No we can’t and yes it is hard.
Human nature.
Good luck.
It is part of the Unz anti-Semite team plan to bankrupt Israel by forcing them to hire millions of Hasbarists. They haven’t figured out what to do about those of us who do if for free. Feels good, man.
I have an idea, maybe we can put yellow stars on their clothing!
all inmates of the German camps had triangles on their lapel of one of six colors to indicate the nature of their confinement; i.e., unemployed, gay, political, mental, criminal, jew. The jews received a second triangle after a young jew killed a German diplomat in Paris.
Hmm – as a fellow American and a Jew, do you not have responsivities to set things straight?
I do not see you condemning Israel’s vile activities against the Palestinians – nor AIPAC’s control of congress – nor Jew monopoly control of the MSM – I do not see you begging for an honest investigation into 9/11.
The “I’m just a good old American Joe” responsible for nothing is not righting the wrongs of the Big Jews. You should absolutely be worried – the question is, how are YOU going to right the ship?
What we see in this comment is you typically crying “victim – victim – Jew victim.”
We need more than that from you.
Think Peace — Art
Hey iffen,
I wouldn’t have worded some of the things the same way – due to the same concerns you brought up. I think Neocons and war-mongers of all stripes need to be targeted and exposed (and definitely many of them are Israeli-firsters whether they are Jews or not) – for instance, Saudis get too easy of a pass on these issues.
I did think Mr. Giraldi was attempting to clarify by using phrases like:
Those American Jews who…
For those American Jews who…
But it seems some of the better insights he has in the matter (and some of his suggestions about common sense policies in putting neutral people in positions like ambassadors – for instance, I should not be allowed to be an ambassador to Pakistan since I still have family there) are being drowned out by the cloud of controversy – which is a shame.
Peace.
so how does your sort of prostitute pay her pimp?
She's not a prostitute; she just loves to fuck. Feels really good, man.
I wouldn't have worded some of the things the same way - due to the same concerns you brought up. I think Neocons and war-mongers of all stripes need to be targeted and exposed (and definitely many of them are Israeli-firsters whether they are Jews or not) - for instance, Saudis get too easy of a pass on these issues.
I did think Mr. Giraldi was attempting to clarify by using phrases like:
Those American Jews who...
For those American Jews who...
But it seems some of the better insights he has in the matter (and some of his suggestions about common sense policies in putting neutral people in positions like ambassadors - for instance, I should not be allowed to be an ambassador to Pakistan since I still have family there) are being drowned out by the cloud of controversy - which is a shame.
Peace.
There wouldn’t be a discussion at all in that case any more than there is already. What is emphasized here is the Israeli connection, which is insufficiently discussed (as is the Saudi connection which is however less significant). I don’t know if Mr. Giraldi is successful in this aim because his readers mostly seem to be either rabid anti-semites or rabid philo-semites. Possibly this is due to his phrasing, as for example the rather incendiary title to this article.
no can do.
All Jews in the USA need to be made to feel extremely uncomfortable.
A week or so ago a US Congressional committee held a hearing on Syria. More than two or three of the reps said things like, "There are good Muslims and bad Muslims. We need to persuade the good Muslims to call out the bad Muslims."
In other words, in the view of the US Congress it is appropriate -- necessary, even, to put the entire Muslim community under the microscope so that we inherently good Americans may pass judgment on them, and also so that Muslim A can be induced to rat out Muslim B.
I couldn't believe it.
But if that's the way things work according to US Congress, then I see no reason why the same system should not apply to Jews, all American Jews. And given the cosmopolitanism of Jews, maybe not just American Jews but ALL Jews should be put under the microscope, examined and judged, and required to call out those of their number who offend against American interests.
Yeah, sadly it’s only when you put it in this perspective, that it becomes clear how off-the-wall their entire approach in dealing with other peoples is; because it seems completely unimaginable to use this technique on them.
A quick glance at history ought to convince the cleverer of the bunch to willingly try to stop the war machine which they are helping to fuel through their money and political pressure.
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
Wow!
I wish I could say you were wrong, Solon; but I can’t.
It is more repellent when dual citizens argue for polices that are against the interests of the United States and the American people. Doesn’t matter what religion they are, but in the US it is primarily Israelis who work to harm our nation.
I was listening to Marc Levin last night and he was PISSED about this article.
I figured it must be pretty good to get him so enraged.
It was.
Levin is a so called conservative Jew who gets many things right about the liberal Jewish destruction of America’s culture.
He goes on and on about free speech and the US constitution – but when the ME comes up, he is 100% NECON and goes off the deep end – he has one set of rules for America and another for Israel.
Michael Savage is another Jew radio host, who has exactly the same stick.
They both are flawed dishonest Little Jews fearful of the Big Jews.
Think Peace --- Art
So, because five Jews take up all the MSM peace movement oxygen (always diverting attention away from Israel) – we must ignore the rest of the tribe’s activities?
Where are the bulk of the Jews when it comes to Israeli atrocities – how about Jew control of congress – and Jew control of the media – and an honest investigation into 9/11? Where are Jew folk on these most important matters to all Americans? We know the truth – they are supporting the Big Jews – they support Israel first.
Little Jews get blamed because they support the Big Jews who do all these evil things.
These Little Jews need to get on the Big Jew web sites and publicly voice their disapproval.
Until than they are as guilty as the Big Jews.
Yelling Jew victim – Jew victim – Jew victim – is not going to get the Little Jews off the hook.
Think Peace — Art
Do you really mean to say it is OK for Jews to pervert the political process here so that American blood is spilled for Israel and Zionism while in no way benefiting the United States? Shame on you!
It seems “they” have complete control over all your bodily functions, most notably observed in the hysterics and the strange melodrama of a selection of your words.
I wouldn't have worded some of the things the same way - due to the same concerns you brought up. I think Neocons and war-mongers of all stripes need to be targeted and exposed (and definitely many of them are Israeli-firsters whether they are Jews or not) - for instance, Saudis get too easy of a pass on these issues.
I did think Mr. Giraldi was attempting to clarify by using phrases like:
Those American Jews who...
For those American Jews who...
But it seems some of the better insights he has in the matter (and some of his suggestions about common sense policies in putting neutral people in positions like ambassadors - for instance, I should not be allowed to be an ambassador to Pakistan since I still have family there) are being drowned out by the cloud of controversy - which is a shame.
Peace.
are being drowned out by the cloud of controversy – which is a shame.
Exactly.
It’s no secret that Cuban-Americans have had veto power over our foreign policy with regards to Cuba since the 1960′s and continue to do so. Hell, Giraldi and his cohorts used to sponsor invasions by irregulars and assassination attempts on Castro. We even lost “real” American. Nobody got their panties in a big knot about Cuban-Americans. Nobody accuses Little Marco of dual loyalty.
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
What is preventing you and your friends from memorialising them? Erecting monuments? Building museums in their memory? Are there laws preventing you? Seriously.
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
Jews have sucked all of the oxygen out. – Now they can charge for it.
I suppose Ledeen still believes what he said fifteen years ago, when the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were still young and dewy-fresh:
"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business".
This even became known as "The Ledeen Doctrine"; I am sure he is very proud.
Perhaps today he thinks Iran is a suitable "small crappy little country". If so, he is very badly mistaken.
Israel is the shitty little country we should bomb the shit out of they deserve it for all their evil antics over the last 60 years they are the worst they are zionazis and they need to be shut down but Trump won’t ever do this he’s owned by Israel. Sad!
"Imagine if every Anglo-Saxon in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!"
or, even better
"Imagine if every CITIZEN in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!"
Looking from outside this post has the most comments (and still running strong).
But, looking at those comments......man......it's...........interesting.
A lot of them feel, for me, like:
"A person is fat. He's fat because he is weak and lazy. He can't stop gorging on all those hamburgers. He can't stand physical exercise, let alone physical work. But he can't admit it to himself. So, he blames McDonald's. And all his friends, all like him, agree. They have found the core cause for them being fat. Bad....bad....McDonald's".
Feels great.
Explains everything.
so if the men on the USS Liberty blame Israel for murdering their friends and trying to murder them, it’s the same as a fat person blaming McDonalds?
if the American people lost loved one fighting a war based on lies to benefit Israel in Iraq, and complained about neocon, Jewish treachery in the death of their loved ones, it’s the same as a fat person blaming McDonalds?
how many wars.. how many serial destabilizations.. how much torture and genocide and human misery must we Americans be forced to participate in – due to Jewish, Zionist, neocon treachery, before we’re allowed to complain about it, with out being called a ‘fat person complaining about McDonalds? Eh?
Tell us, where did all that "Jew thing" start in US?
Pick the number:
1. 1812 -Canada
2, 1830 Indian Removal Act
3. 1846-Mexico
4. 1894-Hawaii
5. 1895-Cuba
6. 1899-Philippines
Let's stop at 6 for the moment.
So...when in all that push/expansion, by force of arms, Jews were instigators/in control?
Just pick a number.
so how does your sort of prostitute pay her pimp?
She’s not a prostitute; she just loves to fuck. Feels really good, man.
What is preventing you and your friends from memorialising them? Erecting monuments? Building museums in their memory? Are there laws preventing you? Seriously.
Well, monuments of ancestors are problematic these days.
It is indeed and roundly condemned by many, including my friends and I. [e.g. we've sent a message to our Mayor that any attempts to remove/change/rename Columbus Circle or any other historical landmark will be met by responses which he won't like a bit during the next election cycle]
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
So you are in fact encouraging physical harm on Jews, Big and small, and attempting to present a species of twisted justification for it, because….because…you could not find the material you were looking for in the library! Good show.
And you end this bizarre rant by telling Jews that they should “suck it up”
Sorry mate, “suck it up” we shan’t anymore. All attempts to physically hurt us will be dealt with, in keeping with the law. Perhaps discussed over a cup of tea?
go hide behind your Christian girlfriend
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speaking of the tough-talking moral high-grounders on this forum:
What's the difference between Phil Giraldi and Peter AUS?
Giraldi puts his background, his work experience, his analysis, and his name on the line.
Peter AUS? He's hiding out down under
Peter is very protective of his/her background & his/her name:
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-letter-to-my-american-friends/#comment-2015904Who are you afraid will "f*&k you up," Peter?
Phil Giraldi?
Ron Unz?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum. It's not unlikely Shama has connections that could implement his threats.
ADL runs a business based on exposing and intimidating people whose ideas and thoughts fail to comply with their ordained dogma.
Mark Zuckerberg just said his Facebook money machine isBut thank goodness,https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hacking-of-america/facebook-turn-over-russia-linked-ads-congress-n803581
Whew. That's a relief.
With Zuckerberg on the case, at least our elections will be secure and free of influence from foreign sources.
Oh, but did Z guarantee the privacy of participants on Facebook?
If he's "turning over" some advertisers, allegedly identified as linked to Russians, that means he can identify and segregate FB participants, and is willing -- even eager -- to reveal their identities, if conditions suit Zuckerberg's interests.
How secure does that make you feel, Peter AUS?
yea, I was just being told that Americans who’re unhappy about zio-con treachery and war mongering = fat people complaining about McDonalds
snide is also a trait, isn’t it?
when Jews complain about the Holocaust, how many revisionists say they’re like fat people complaining about McDonalds?
I’m reminded of the way they laughed at Rachel Corrie, and called her ‘bulldozer girl’ and said how stupid she was for trusting an IDF soldier with her young life.
I guess if her parents complain about how callously she was murdered, it would be like a fat person complaining about McDonalds, huh?
here’s a picture of Rachel before and after she was murdered by an Israeli
somehow I imagine Bill Kristol thinking of her in the picture at the head of this article
Any?
Or...you really believe it's just simply:Forced to participate?
By Jews.
Man...so ludicrous it's funny.
Forced to do what all empires have been doing since the dawn of history
And reaping, as empire's citizens, benefits of all that work.
Get the benefits (power, material wealth) but then blame something/somebody else for all those uncomfortable things that type of work creates.
Looks exactly as a fatty does when blaming McDonald's.
And it was probably Jews.As Art has pointed out numerous times, it was probably Big Jews.I can't get at Big Jews to deliver the punch in the face they so richly deserve for teaching children to hate their grandparents.
Little Jews are more accessible.
Somebody might come across you at a hockey game.
Sometimes anger gets misdirected.If I'm wrong in thinking that it is really, really outrageous to teach children to hate their grandparents, go on a rant and tell me so. It's even broader and worse than that: Jewish-dominated 'histories' and media tell lies about what my forebears and my culture did and represented. Jews have manhandled and distorted my proud Italian heritage, and that's just a particle of what has been done to German culture, by Jews.
MY people, MY parents, MY grandparents -- their lives had value, and heroism, and their suffering should be acknowledged. It MUST be acknowledged and it WILL be acknowledged.Jews have effectively and essentially demanded that only THEY are entitled to memorialization of their life experiences. What my parents and grandparents suffered is valueless, only Jews lives matter.So if someone takes a poke at you, or, heaven forfend, speaks or writes an inconvenient fact about Jewish malfeasance and thereby offends your sensitivities, consider that you may have found yourself on the totally incidental end of a misdirected but long-suppressed pain.
And do what we in the non-Jewish world have been doing for all our lives: Suck. It. Up.
Got Grandpa problems, S2C, suck it up!
Some people didn’t even get to know about their Grandpa.
Some have Grandpas like mine who sent my Dad into the coal mines at age 15 and took his pay every week. Worked right alongside some of your peeps, S2C. They were dagos then, but that was a long time ago.
My salute. Did a road trip through Appalachia a few years ago and absolutely loved the locals. Most in America do not realise they preserve a version of old Scottish inflected Shakespearean English! ["She-fox" etc :) ]
First, I haven’t seen any Jew “complain” about the Holocaust. Overwhelmingly, what goes on UR can be simply described as insane Jew haters bringing up the Holocaust and ranting over it. Some of your fellow travelers [might've been you I don't remember] have gone to the extent of suggesting another Holocaust is in the offing and richly deserved. Why, look around this comment section. Do I see any of you moral giants condemning any of it? I didn’t think so. With the exception of Jacques. Credit where it is due. Go do a search of the word “Holocaust” in the archives and it’ll be amply evident who brings it up and for what effect. You are given to mendacity, theatrics, and melodrama a fishwife of the Late Antiquity would be proud of.
Then, of course, the Jewish nation is always working around the clock to censor their massacring of Palestinians.
"Last week, a major censorship controversy erupted when Facebook began deleting all posts containing the iconic photograph of the Vietnamese “Napalm Girl” on the ground that it violated the company’s ban on “child nudity.” Facebook even deleted a post from the prime minister of Norway, who posted the photograph in protest of the censorship. As outrage spread, Facebook ultimately reversed itself — acknowledging “the history and global importance of this image in documenting a particular moment in time” — but this episode illustrated many of the dangers I’ve previously highlighted in having private tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, and Google become the arbiters of what we can and cannot see.
Having just resolved that censorship effort, Facebook seems to be vigorously courting another. The Associated Press reports today from Jerusalem that “the Israeli government and Facebook have agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network.” These meetings are taking place “as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence.” In other words, Israel is about to legislatively force Facebook to censor content deemed by Israeli officials to be improper, and Facebook appears eager to appease those threats by working directly with the Israeli government to determine what content should be censored.'
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
I guess Jews have appointed themselves the master of our discourse. Is it anti-Semitic to point this out??
that's all I've heard my entire life!
It permeates every Hollywood movie and television show and newspaper day in, day out!
it's our fucking religion for Christ's sake!!
Jews kvetching about the Holocaust from lying Elie Wiesel to Stephan Spielberg to virtually every text book or history book published in the Western world for severty years man!
and you haven't seen any Jew complain about the Holocaust!
hahahah ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
ROTFLMAOWOW, what a POS you are Sam
Oh my – look who brings up the “six million lie” – our resident chief Jew terrorist.
This Jew manages to twist everything into being about Jew victimhood.
He says “knuckle under you stupid people – I and my tribe will personally destroy you if you complain about our coercive activities in America - screw your concerns about America’s future. Even though you Americans ended our nightmare in WWII - you have guilt – even though you have been kind to us – even though you have allowed us to get unconsciously rich – we are your victims.”
The Jew says – “We will attack you if you mention Israeli deeds – if you talk about control of congress – if you demand a 9/11 investigator – if you say anything about Jew media control – and if you question Jew wealth and banks.”
The Jew says – “we are terrorists – we own you - you must fear us - and you must always give us a pass because of the holocaust.”
Think Peace (even for the Jews) --- Art
p.s. The Jew bitches about threats – in 700 comments, remarkably there is only one or two.
p.s. The Jew has the balls to demand a perfect world when he brings nothing but chaos to humanity.
Yeah……
Tell us, where did all that “Jew thing” start in US?
Pick the number:
1. 1812 -Canada
2, 1830 Indian Removal Act
3. 1846-Mexico
4. 1894-Hawaii
5. 1895-Cuba
6. 1899-Philippines
Let’s stop at 6 for the moment.
So…when in all that push/expansion, by force of arms, Jews were instigators/in control?
Just pick a number.
when Woodrow Wilson handed a cabal of Jewish banksters the keys to our Treasury
since then it's been wars and more wars and world wars and wars for Israel and more wars for Israel...
and the corruption and subversion of our currency with the Fed printing money to hand out to their Jewish bankster buddies until our dollar is worth a penny of its original value.
and our politicians serving the money men at the direct expense of the American people
duh
Would that both idiot Roosevelt cousins had been strangled in the crib. Instead of fighting Spain, the Navy should have been sinking ships bringing immigrants to our shores.
I am glad we did not take Canada. The US has enough frozen tundra unfit for human habitation as it is.
Removing the stone age savage from our land was a good and just act.
Mexico should not have picked a fight over the Rio Grande.
a group of five Mossad agents were arrested after they were seen dancing and 'high fiving' and celebrating the first plane hitting the WTC. They were held by the FBI for several months until Israeli citizen and future head of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff allowed them to quietly return to Israel, where they eventually went on Israeli television and explained that they were there to "document the event".
If they were there to document the event, then the Mossad knew that 9/11 was about to happen. And if the Mossad knew, then the Israeli government also knew.
the owner of the WTC, one 'Lucky Larry Silverstein', was (and presumably still is) a close friend of Netanyahu, and they were known to speak on the phone regularly.
check out 'Lucky Larry' too, (if you have a strong stomach)
Top of Unz Review. A piece also by Giraldi.
[Well, monuments of ancestors are problematic these days.]
It is indeed and roundly condemned by many, including my friends and I. [e.g. we've sent a message to our Mayor that any attempts to remove/change/rename Columbus Circle or any other historical landmark will be met by responses which he won't like a bit during the next election cycle]
Yes, I do remember your comment.
will be met by responses which he won't like a bit
Good for you, Sam. Reminds me of Archie Bunker's threat of sic'ing his seven savage Jews on his opponent.:)
insane Jew haters
They are not insane. They are true believers, everyone of them from the rubber boots types to the pellet droppers and on to the copy and paste propagandists. They are normal people and that is the scary part.
The idea that all these normal people want to kill Jews is a canard. It is not true – they want their country and culture back – no more. There are always those with blood in their eye – but they are a small minority.
Face it, when Mr. Sam says these things, he is reflexively doing his Stockholm Syndrome duties.
Think Peace --- Art
So, in
and
there is no ANY blame to appoint to US leadership at the moment in general, and on an average US citizen in particular?
Any?
Or…you really believe it’s just simply:
Forced to participate?
By Jews.
Man…so ludicrous it’s funny.
Forced to do what all empires have been doing since the dawn of history
And reaping, as empire’s citizens, benefits of all that work.
Get the benefits (power, material wealth) but then blame something/somebody else for all those uncomfortable things that type of work creates.
Looks exactly as a fatty does when blaming McDonald’s.
plentyhere's your typical American reaping the benefits of Jewish war mongering
http://c5.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/N59065380/7864514_5Mi6Z.jpegthe working class of this country has been brutalized, while the one percent, especially on Wall Street, have been awash in Federal Reserve lucre
and you've got the pus-nads to suggest the American people have benefited by your zio-wars?
as they've been looted of trillions of dollars + debt to pay for them?
and justifiably hated the world over for America's serial belligerence and war criminality?
only a pus-filled POS like you would claim that as a benefit we should all be grateful for
kudos, you're winning the POS of the week award!
keep it up, let's see what other gems you can come up with.
perhaps the woman at that grave should be grateful her loved one died in wars based on lies to benefit a POS like you, eh?
To claim that Jews do not control our foreign policy - is beyond ludicrous.
Why do you do that?
Think Peace --- Art
Aren’t the groups who put pressure Amazon to stop selling Holocaust denial literature and are currently putting the squeeze on youtube to stop airing videos on holocaust denial Jewish?
Then, of course, the Jewish nation is always working around the clock to censor their massacring of Palestinians.
“Last week, a major censorship controversy erupted when Facebook began deleting all posts containing the iconic photograph of the Vietnamese “Napalm Girl” on the ground that it violated the company’s ban on “child nudity.” Facebook even deleted a post from the prime minister of Norway, who posted the photograph in protest of the censorship. As outrage spread, Facebook ultimately reversed itself — acknowledging “the history and global importance of this image in documenting a particular moment in time” — but this episode illustrated many of the dangers I’ve previously highlighted in having private tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, and Google become the arbiters of what we can and cannot see.
Having just resolved that censorship effort, Facebook seems to be vigorously courting another. The Associated Press reports today from Jerusalem that “the Israeli government and Facebook have agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network.” These meetings are taking place “as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence.” In other words, Israel is about to legislatively force Facebook to censor content deemed by Israeli officials to be improper, and Facebook appears eager to appease those threats by working directly with the Israeli government to determine what content should be censored.’
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
I guess Jews have appointed themselves the master of our discourse. Is it anti-Semitic to point this out??
Wonder if FB will work with the Chinese and Saudi governments to also determine what should be censored?
Peace.
It is indeed and roundly condemned by many, including my friends and I. [e.g. we've sent a message to our Mayor that any attempts to remove/change/rename Columbus Circle or any other historical landmark will be met by responses which he won't like a bit during the next election cycle]
roundly condemned by many, including my friends and I.
Yes, I do remember your comment.
will be met by responses which he won’t like a bit
Good for you, Sam. Reminds me of Archie Bunker’s threat of sic’ing his seven savage Jews on his opponent.:)
Anyone remember this????
Its sad enough to massacre a people the way the israelis did it a couple of years ago and actually every couple of years but then for AMERICAN Jews to intimidate human beings from raising their voice about it is absolutely sick and evil
http://americanfreepress.net/jews-who-control-hollywood-tell-stars-better-not-mention-palestine/
Jews Who Control Hollywood Tell Stars: Better Not Mention Palestine
Right now the No. 1 rule in Hollywood is that you can talk about anything political—except Israel’s attack on the Christians and Muslims in Gaza, Palestine. That’s not a conspiracy theory from critics of Israel or Jew-hating neo-Nazis. Instead, that was the thesis of a candid article in the August 1 edition of The Hollywood Reporter (THR), influential trade journal of the entertainment industry.
In fact, the article was bluntly titled: “Rule 1: Talk About Anything Political in Hollywood . . . Except Gaza.”
That such an article would appear in a magazine considered “must” reading for those in show business was a not-so-subtle warning that anyone who violates that rule is in for a tough road ahead.
Noting several celebrities had expressed sympathies for the plight of Gaza, THR commented ominously that—“for now at least” —powerful Jewish moguls in Hollywood were simply dismissing those entertainers as being “uninformed.” However, continue speaking out this way and there will be trouble.
Adding breezily that it is commonplace for Hollywood executives “to be on a first name basis with prominent Israeli politicians and business leaders,” THR cooed that this intimacy with Israel explains why so many Hollywood figures who otherwise have much to say about a lot of political issues are silent about Gaza—with only a few exceptions.
Those exceptions—which caused a stir in Jewish circles and a big buzz in Hollywood—included such well-known names as husband-and-wife acting team Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz (both Academy Award winners) and two-time Oscar-winning director Pedro Almodavor, who joined dozens of fellow Spanish actors, directors, musicians and writers in an open letter condemning the assault on Gaza, describing Israel’s policies as “genocide.”
Meanwhile, American actor Jon Voight jumped into action, charging Bardem, Ms. Cruz and their colleagues with “inciting anti-Semitism,” which, of course, brought denials from the accused. Ms. Cruz rushed to explain she was “not an expert” and shouldn’t be misunderstood.
Voight has spent his own entire career vocally proving his love for Israel, well aware it is common knowledge among Hollywood power brokers that his late uncle—the legendary political writer Joseph P. Kamp—was an outspoken critic of Jewish intrigues, particularly targeting the notorious Anti-Defamation League, a big player in Hollywood affairs. Kamp—by the way—was a contributing editor to The Spotlight, AMERICAN FREE PRESS’s forerunner. Voight’s equally politically-outspoken daughter, actress Angelina Jolie, has made it so big she is now a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
THR reported that powerful Hollywood kingpin Haim Saban—an Israeli citizen—drafted a statement responding to Israel’s critics that was “so strong” that—after being sent to his publicist for review—was never issued. In short: Saban is really mad, and Israel’s critics better watch out. After all, billionaire Saban, who has said his number one concern is protecting Israel, puts his money where his mouth is, bankrolling endeavors—such as the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution in Washington—that promote the Zionist agenda.
In two other Gaza-related “scandals,” actress Selena Gomez dared to post an image on “Instagram” that read: “It’s about humanity. Pray for Gaza,” and popular hip-hopper Rihanna posted “Free Palestine” to the Internet. After coming under fire, Ms. Gomez assured fans she wasn’t taking sides and Rihanna deleted her own post eight minutes after posting it.
Comic Jackie Mason—a trained rabbi—told conservative radio host Aaron Klein that entertainment industry critics of Israel come from “anti-Semitic, low-class backgrounds where a Jew is the most disgusting thing in the world to them.”
THR quoted Ken Solomon, chairman and chief executive officer of The Tennis Channel, Inc., and top Democratic fundraiser—whose grandparents lived in Israel. Solomon, who audaciously said in response to Rihanna and the others: “I think there’s a place for celebrities to get involved, whether it’s the environment or social issues. But getting involved in foreign policy debates? It doesn’t make a lot of sense. . . . With all due respect to Rihanna, unless she’s been studying this, she shouldn’t be talking about it.” In other words, in foreign policy, unless you’re pro-Israel, just shut up.
Jewish comic Joan Rivers, born Joan Molinsky, would have no problem with that argument. Believing Israel is imperiled, she once said: “I worry they’re going to wipe it off the Earth. I only hope they [Israel] will take us all with them, because Jews shouldn’t go quietly this time. If they’re going to kill us, we’re going to kill you right back.”
Those violent comments, it seems, are acceptable, since, after all, Ms. Rivers is Jewish and pro-Israel.
Some people didn't even get to know about their Grandpa.
Some have Grandpas like mine who sent my Dad into the coal mines at age 15 and took his pay every week. Worked right alongside some of your peeps, S2C. They were dagos then, but that was a long time ago.
[Some have Grandpas like mine who sent my Dad into the coal mines at age 15 and took his pay every week.]
My salute. Did a road trip through Appalachia a few years ago and absolutely loved the locals. Most in America do not realise they preserve a version of old Scottish inflected Shakespearean English! ["She-fox" etc
]
It's a cultural thing. If you love your children you will teach them how to survive on their own with no help. We coulda made pretty good Spartans I think.
AHHHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!
that’s all I’ve heard my entire life!
It permeates every Hollywood movie and television show and newspaper day in, day out!
it’s our fucking religion for Christ’s sake!!
Jews kvetching about the Holocaust from lying Elie Wiesel to Stephan Spielberg to virtually every text book or history book published in the Western world for severty years man!
and you haven’t seen any Jew complain about the Holocaust!
hahahah ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
ROTFLMAO
WOW, what a POS you are Sam
Tell us, where did all that "Jew thing" start in US?
Pick the number:
1. 1812 -Canada
2, 1830 Indian Removal Act
3. 1846-Mexico
4. 1894-Hawaii
5. 1895-Cuba
6. 1899-Philippines
Let's stop at 6 for the moment.
So...when in all that push/expansion, by force of arms, Jews were instigators/in control?
Just pick a number.
in 1913
when Woodrow Wilson handed a cabal of Jewish banksters the keys to our Treasury
since then it’s been wars and more wars and world wars and wars for Israel and more wars for Israel…
and the corruption and subversion of our currency with the Fed printing money to hand out to their Jewish bankster buddies until our dollar is worth a penny of its original value.
and our politicians serving the money men at the direct expense of the American people
duh
Or at least I am trying to see.
Could you help me clarify a couple of things, please?
From 1812 to 1913 US expanded using force of arms.
At the time Anglo-Saxons were the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was O.K, apparently.
From 1913 to today US has also been expanding by force of arms.
As you say, Jews have been the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was not O.K.
So, what exactly is not O.K. from 1913 to today?
Expansion by force of arms or Jews being in charge of that expansion?
And, based on previous question, should, by some miracle, Jews aren't in charge anymore but, say, Anglo-Saxons again, then expansion by force of arms will be O.K. again?
Or, expansion by force of arms is O.K. as long as MY group is in charge?
Sounds about right?
big tough Sammy Shammy
go hide behind your Christian girlfriend
–
speaking of the tough-talking moral high-grounders on this forum:
What’s the difference between Phil Giraldi and Peter AUS?
Giraldi puts his background, his work experience, his analysis, and his name on the line.
Peter AUS? He’s hiding out down under
Peter is very protective of his/her background & his/her name:
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-letter-to-my-american-friends/#comment-2015904
Who are you afraid will “f*&k you up,” Peter?
Phil Giraldi?
Ron Unz?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum. It’s not unlikely Shama has connections that could implement his threats.
ADL runs a business based on exposing and intimidating people whose ideas and thoughts fail to comply with their ordained dogma.
Mark Zuckerberg just said his Facebook money machine is
But thank goodness,
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hacking-of-america/facebook-turn-over-russia-linked-ads-congress-n803581
Whew. That’s a relief.
With Zuckerberg on the case, at least our elections will be secure and free of influence from foreign sources.
Oh, but did Z guarantee the privacy of participants on Facebook?
If he’s “turning over” some advertisers, allegedly identified as linked to Russians, that means he can identify and segregate FB participants, and is willing — even eager — to reveal their identities, if conditions suit Zuckerberg’s interests.
How secure does that make you feel, Peter AUS?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum.
Where did he do this?
As for that moron upthread, baying like a possessed banshee, I now realise I was in error defending him when he was threatened by Jonathan.
Scott McNealy said it close to 20 years ago.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2013/07/31/have-no-privacy-get-over-it.html
Any?
Or...you really believe it's just simply:Forced to participate?
By Jews.
Man...so ludicrous it's funny.
Forced to do what all empires have been doing since the dawn of history
And reaping, as empire's citizens, benefits of all that work.
Get the benefits (power, material wealth) but then blame something/somebody else for all those uncomfortable things that type of work creates.
Looks exactly as a fatty does when blaming McDonald's.
of course there is idiot
plenty
here’s your typical American reaping the benefits of Jewish war mongering
the working class of this country has been brutalized, while the one percent, especially on Wall Street, have been awash in Federal Reserve lucre
and you’ve got the pus-nads to suggest the American people have benefited by your zio-wars?
as they’ve been looted of trillions of dollars + debt to pay for them?
and justifiably hated the world over for America’s serial belligerence and war criminality?
only a pus-filled POS like you would claim that as a benefit we should all be grateful for
kudos, you’re winning the POS of the week award!
keep it up, let’s see what other gems you can come up with.
perhaps the woman at that grave should be grateful her loved one died in wars based on lies to benefit a POS like you, eh?
I thought we were engaged in a meaningful conversation.
My bad.
Keep up the good work.
Then, of course, the Jewish nation is always working around the clock to censor their massacring of Palestinians.
"Last week, a major censorship controversy erupted when Facebook began deleting all posts containing the iconic photograph of the Vietnamese “Napalm Girl” on the ground that it violated the company’s ban on “child nudity.” Facebook even deleted a post from the prime minister of Norway, who posted the photograph in protest of the censorship. As outrage spread, Facebook ultimately reversed itself — acknowledging “the history and global importance of this image in documenting a particular moment in time” — but this episode illustrated many of the dangers I’ve previously highlighted in having private tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, and Google become the arbiters of what we can and cannot see.
Having just resolved that censorship effort, Facebook seems to be vigorously courting another. The Associated Press reports today from Jerusalem that “the Israeli government and Facebook have agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network.” These meetings are taking place “as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence.” In other words, Israel is about to legislatively force Facebook to censor content deemed by Israeli officials to be improper, and Facebook appears eager to appease those threats by working directly with the Israeli government to determine what content should be censored.'
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
I guess Jews have appointed themselves the master of our discourse. Is it anti-Semitic to point this out??
Wow!!! That is pretty damn amazing!
Wonder if FB will work with the Chinese and Saudi governments to also determine what should be censored?
Peace.
• Sowing distrust in political institutions: In this case, fake account operators may not have a topical focus, but rather seek to undermine the status quo of political or civil society institutions on a more strategic level.
So yes, or does this only apply to us subversives here it Murica?
Does this mean that the US should never allow a Muslim to occupy a position of influence with regard to Muslim countries or exercise authority on any issues that might impact Muslims or Islam?
I will shoot you in front of your mother ‘– Israeli forces follow through on threat to Palestinian youth
Almost one month after Israeli forces shot him seven times during a night raid in Deheisha refugee camp, 22-year-old Raed al-Salhi succumbed to his wounds on Sunday in Jerusalem’s Hadassah hospital. His mother Zaynab heard the news as she sat at home in Deheisha, in the West Bank. She didn’t even have a chance to say goodbye.
Israeli forces had warned Raed al-Salhi in late July that they were coming for him.
“They called him and told him ‘we will shoot you in front of your mother’,” Khaled, 24, one of Raed’s four older brothers told Mondoweiss days before Raed died in the raid to arrest him, in the small living room of their home in the camp, located in the southern occupied West Bank.
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/israeli-through-palestinian/
This is what is happening in the home nation of the supposed champions of our American freedoms and civil rights in America..how splendid. Glad to see they care so much about us but can give a shit about these values when it comes to Israel. You know Israel, the country where American Jews send their children to enlist and fight.
They have enough time to run around pussy parading when Trump is elected but a very, very small fraction will even acknowledge what is being done to the Palestinians, I mean hat’s off to the lone voices that do say something but the vast majority support Israel, right or wrong.
First, I haven’t seen any Jew “complain” about the Holocaust. Overwhelmingly, what goes on UR can be simply described as insane Jew haters bringing up the Holocaust and ranting over it
Oh my – look who brings up the “six million lie” – our resident chief Jew terrorist.
This Jew manages to twist everything into being about Jew victimhood.
He says “knuckle under you stupid people – I and my tribe will personally destroy you if you complain about our coercive activities in America – screw your concerns about America’s future. Even though you Americans ended our nightmare in WWII – you have guilt – even though you have been kind to us – even though you have allowed us to get unconsciously rich – we are your victims.”
The Jew says – “We will attack you if you mention Israeli deeds – if you talk about control of congress – if you demand a 9/11 investigator – if you say anything about Jew media control – and if you question Jew wealth and banks.”
The Jew says – “we are terrorists – we own you – you must fear us – and you must always give us a pass because of the holocaust.”
Think Peace (even for the Jews) — Art
p.s. The Jew bitches about threats – in 700 comments, remarkably there is only one or two.
p.s. The Jew has the balls to demand a perfect world when he brings nothing but chaos to humanity.
Maybe not true believers , but conscient of the fact that Jews are 2% of the population of the US and in a Democracy 2% is 2%, i.e. a minor voice.
Before replying I glanced at the other replies and, at least at first glance, I think the questioning of “priced in” is a major and valid point.
Otherwise… I would say you are a real time realist compared to me. Maybe I should leave my criticisms of America for its past and systematic failures in the waste basket of naive dreams. However….
I am hardly a naive idealist. I am a calculator and imaginative about what can go wrong, and I think I have a pretty realistic view of the range of human follies and prejudices. Consistently – I would say because I have long seen America’s actual and growing weaknesses – I have seen America’s true course as engaging China, especially, and Russia, with India perhaps to follow, in the management of the world. Instead of American hubris leading to impoverishment of the masses by militarism there could have been a flattering acknowledgment of what the great Chinese civilisation and the stalwart Russian people had to contribute to a highly innovative post Cold War world.
I have long said that neither the Chinese nor the Indians are going to let a bunch of oil rich Arabs or other Muslims hold them to ransom so, especially since the fracking revolution, why does the US spend its treasure on hubristic neo-con (including Rumsfeld and Cheney) fantasies except that the mind of the born again ex-governor of Texas was a vacant space waiting to be occupied by the few Americans who had mental passports and otganised ideas about the rest of the world.
Another version of my kind of realism you can treat as a test case….. While Australia should not drop the defence advantages it gets from close alliance with the US it should continue to treat itself as a country under no major threat in the forseeable future. Consider the populous and or rich and or powerful countries in our neighbouhood.
Would any one of Indonesia, China, Japan, South Korea or India take lightly interference with the well run quarry (and education provider to 500,000 of their children) that Australia is and will be for dwcades to come? Why couldn’t the US have invited China and India to take over the burden and opportunities in Afghanistan? At least since frackung took off why shouldn’t the Muslim ME and Central Asia be left to China, India and Russia to keep in order?
Well, if it walks like a duck talks, and quacks like a duck, it probably is a _____________________. Anyone in the know, knows who’s running what.
This is the best source of information that corroborates this claim:
Then, of course, the Jewish nation is always working around the clock to censor their massacring of Palestinians.
"Last week, a major censorship controversy erupted when Facebook began deleting all posts containing the iconic photograph of the Vietnamese “Napalm Girl” on the ground that it violated the company’s ban on “child nudity.” Facebook even deleted a post from the prime minister of Norway, who posted the photograph in protest of the censorship. As outrage spread, Facebook ultimately reversed itself — acknowledging “the history and global importance of this image in documenting a particular moment in time” — but this episode illustrated many of the dangers I’ve previously highlighted in having private tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, and Google become the arbiters of what we can and cannot see.
Having just resolved that censorship effort, Facebook seems to be vigorously courting another. The Associated Press reports today from Jerusalem that “the Israeli government and Facebook have agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network.” These meetings are taking place “as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence.” In other words, Israel is about to legislatively force Facebook to censor content deemed by Israeli officials to be improper, and Facebook appears eager to appease those threats by working directly with the Israeli government to determine what content should be censored.'
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
I guess Jews have appointed themselves the master of our discourse. Is it anti-Semitic to point this out??
If they are, what of it? Do you expect them to promote Holocaust denial? If they are asking Amazon to deny a platform, they are not laying down a modern-day Edict of Compiègne, where Protestants ran the risk of being rendered a head shorter, are they? Nor like the Librorum Prohibitorum, which the Roman Catholic Church still endorses and enforces through the “moral force of positive ecclesiastical law”; all for following Protestantism and not the canon of Catholic belief. To say nothing of the glorious Islamic grand Ayatollahs, pronouncing an edict for the murder of Salman Rushdie for writing a Novel!!!! Where are you on that????
The Israel Palestine conflict has resulted in a 1-6 ratio of deaths between the two sides. 22k Palestinians have died over the 50 years or more of the conflict. Is that a “massacre”? Go around the world, restrict yourself to the same period and find out for yourself how many other ethnicities have had deaths amounting to far larger numbers. Is your interest really about the Pals, for whom you would spare a tuppence? I’ll wager I know more Palestinians and Arabs personally than all the lachrymose crocodiles on this page.
Facebook is not a government service, subject to the First Amendment, although I do think at this point they ought to be regulated much like a natural monopoly.
To answer your question, no, I don’t think it is anti-Semitic to point it out. It is merely incorrect. That you wrote here all you wanted to write, been the beneficiary of Valery Plame’s retweet, hardly reinforces the notion that Jews are the “Masters of discourse”.
U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel
https://theintercept.com/2017/07/19/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to-criminally-outlaw-support-for-boycott-campaign-against-israel/
The blacklisting of students who dare criticize Israeli policy???
Exposed: Pro-Israel Modern Day McCarthyites Going to Extremes to Slime Human Rights Activists
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/modern-day-mccarthyists-are-going-extremes-slime-activists-fighting-israels
Claiming to be operated by “students and concerned citizens,” who were not identified, Canary Mission is essentially a blacklist of students, academics and activists involved with pro-Palestine solidarity activities on campus. “It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees,” the anonymous female narrator of a promotional video posted on Canary Mission’s website declared. In their campaign against supporters of the BDS movement, Canary Mission’s masked staffers have vilified more than 140 activists, many of whom are current or recent students enrolled in the University of California system.
University bills attempting to be passed conflating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism???
Fighting Israeli Occupying Forces Is “Terrorism.” Boycotting Is “Anti-Semitism.” What’s Allowed?
In California, the regents of the nation’s largest university system just enacted a resolution strongly implying that BDS activism is anti-Semitic and thus in violation of university rules. In New York last week, dozens of state legislators, from both parties, have demanded the de-funding of a pro-Palestinian group at CUNY, a move denounced by the campus free speech group FIRE. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, when running for office, announced that BDS “has no place on Canadian campuses.” In France, people are literally arrested as criminals under “hate speech” laws for wearing T-shirts advocating BDS. Measures in the U.K. have been enacted to legally bar support for such boycott movements. Laws and proposed bills in Israel ban advocacy of the movement and bar supporters from entering Israel.
Sure, youtube and facebook are private venues but don't act like Jews aren't salivating at the possibility of outlawing holocaust denial like it has been done in so many European countries
Any?
Or...you really believe it's just simply:Forced to participate?
By Jews.
Man...so ludicrous it's funny.
Forced to do what all empires have been doing since the dawn of history
And reaping, as empire's citizens, benefits of all that work.
Get the benefits (power, material wealth) but then blame something/somebody else for all those uncomfortable things that type of work creates.
Looks exactly as a fatty does when blaming McDonald's.
All our military adventures since Vietnam have been because of our Jew foreign policy. Even the first Iraq war was because we had built up Iraq in its war with Iran.
To claim that Jews do not control our foreign policy – is beyond ludicrous.
Why do you do that?
Think Peace — Art
Then, of course, the Jewish nation is always working around the clock to censor their massacring of Palestinians.
"Last week, a major censorship controversy erupted when Facebook began deleting all posts containing the iconic photograph of the Vietnamese “Napalm Girl” on the ground that it violated the company’s ban on “child nudity.” Facebook even deleted a post from the prime minister of Norway, who posted the photograph in protest of the censorship. As outrage spread, Facebook ultimately reversed itself — acknowledging “the history and global importance of this image in documenting a particular moment in time” — but this episode illustrated many of the dangers I’ve previously highlighted in having private tech companies like Facebook, Twitter, and Google become the arbiters of what we can and cannot see.
Having just resolved that censorship effort, Facebook seems to be vigorously courting another. The Associated Press reports today from Jerusalem that “the Israeli government and Facebook have agreed to work together to determine how to tackle incitement on the social media network.” These meetings are taking place “as the government pushes ahead with legislative steps meant to force social networks to rein in content that Israel says incites violence.” In other words, Israel is about to legislatively force Facebook to censor content deemed by Israeli officials to be improper, and Facebook appears eager to appease those threats by working directly with the Israeli government to determine what content should be censored.'
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/12/facebook-is-collaborating-with-the-israeli-government-to-determine-what-should-be-censored/
I guess Jews have appointed themselves the master of our discourse. Is it anti-Semitic to point this out??
And Jews who care about or at least think about being Jewish, especially if they care at all about Israel are not behaving irrationally in trying to limit some kinds of expression. Consider how American use of drone attacks compares with outrageous Jewish/Israeli Holocaust denial as a matter of morality – and be willing to think it could be problematic. That is unless you take the bland free speech line that every distorter of history and group libeller ought to be answered in open debate instead of censored. (It arises in that form in Australia whenever some notorious speaker/writer like David Irving is denied a visa). How much time and money should be devoted to combatting repeated lies?
Suppose Israel’s enemies decided, as they well might, that an effective medium to long term strategy might be to multiply anti-Semitic myths and lies for every age group in every country not just for the direct effects but to damage Jews reputations as civil libertarians and to cost them enormous amounts of effort and money to counter the attacks? Might not Jews sensibly recall what Catholic Europe did to Jews and their reputations for hundreds of years?
See my complementary comment – for now #728
My salute. Did a road trip through Appalachia a few years ago and absolutely loved the locals. Most in America do not realise they preserve a version of old Scottish inflected Shakespearean English! ["She-fox" etc :) ]
Yeah, some of us do. If and.
It’s a cultural thing. If you love your children you will teach them how to survive on their own with no help. We coulda made pretty good Spartans I think.
Too bad. As was always G-d’s will, we now control the world. Get used to it.
go hide behind your Christian girlfriend
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speaking of the tough-talking moral high-grounders on this forum:
What's the difference between Phil Giraldi and Peter AUS?
Giraldi puts his background, his work experience, his analysis, and his name on the line.
Peter AUS? He's hiding out down under
Peter is very protective of his/her background & his/her name:
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-letter-to-my-american-friends/#comment-2015904Who are you afraid will "f*&k you up," Peter?
Phil Giraldi?
Ron Unz?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum. It's not unlikely Shama has connections that could implement his threats.
ADL runs a business based on exposing and intimidating people whose ideas and thoughts fail to comply with their ordained dogma.
Mark Zuckerberg just said his Facebook money machine isBut thank goodness,https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hacking-of-america/facebook-turn-over-russia-linked-ads-congress-n803581
Whew. That's a relief.
With Zuckerberg on the case, at least our elections will be secure and free of influence from foreign sources.
Oh, but did Z guarantee the privacy of participants on Facebook?
If he's "turning over" some advertisers, allegedly identified as linked to Russians, that means he can identify and segregate FB participants, and is willing -- even eager -- to reveal their identities, if conditions suit Zuckerberg's interests.
How secure does that make you feel, Peter AUS?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum.
Where did he do this?
2. search the archives
I don't know if I fit into the category of Sam The Sham's having threatened to "dox" me, but I reckon he came mighty close to bestowing such honor!
At any rate, The Hasbara Cowboy is on record as having branded me a "bacterial strain" school bus driver, and boasted about the joys of "Nazi hunting" and some (to date) unconfirmed non-combatants. Hee-hee.
Had you recovered from an advanced learning deficiency, you would recall Sam The Sham having bared his fangs and warned me that "Winer is Coming" and unpleasantries when his tribe has complete control over how the rubble "buys and sells."
(Sigh)
I figure you and The Sham would make a perfect dox-ed couple at a Jeffrey Epstein Halloween bash. Boo!
Selah.
What?
With "thou shalt not kill" we have long absorbed exceptions we are brought up to be comfortable with so it is hardly even a reference point for discussion. But principles of free speech and only killing Americans after due process and foreigners in lawful wars in lawful ways should, when ee confront reality, make us avoid oversimplifying the issues or the answers.
Why don’t the Little Jews fear it when normal people hate them – why don’t they get after their Big Jews, who cause the trouble? These Jews are a very weak people – they cannot even help themselves. They are lemmings. (We philosophical Christians hate the sin – not the sinner.)
The idea that all these normal people want to kill Jews is a canard. It is not true – they want their country and culture back – no more. There are always those with blood in their eye – but they are a small minority.
Face it, when Mr. Sam says these things, he is reflexively doing his Stockholm Syndrome duties.
Think Peace — Art
Censoring YouTube and facebook are part of a larger trend. How many bills are circulating through congress to outlaw the boycott of Israel as we speak?
U.S. Lawmakers Seek to Criminally Outlaw Support for Boycott Campaign Against Israel
https://theintercept.com/2017/07/19/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to-criminally-outlaw-support-for-boycott-campaign-against-israel/
The blacklisting of students who dare criticize Israeli policy???
Exposed: Pro-Israel Modern Day McCarthyites Going to Extremes to Slime Human Rights Activists
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/modern-day-mccarthyists-are-going-extremes-slime-activists-fighting-israels
Claiming to be operated by “students and concerned citizens,” who were not identified, Canary Mission is essentially a blacklist of students, academics and activists involved with pro-Palestine solidarity activities on campus. “It is your duty to ensure that today’s radicals are not tomorrow’s employees,” the anonymous female narrator of a promotional video posted on Canary Mission’s website declared. In their campaign against supporters of the BDS movement, Canary Mission’s masked staffers have vilified more than 140 activists, many of whom are current or recent students enrolled in the University of California system.
University bills attempting to be passed conflating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism???
Fighting Israeli Occupying Forces Is “Terrorism.” Boycotting Is “Anti-Semitism.” What’s Allowed?
In California, the regents of the nation’s largest university system just enacted a resolution strongly implying that BDS activism is anti-Semitic and thus in violation of university rules. In New York last week, dozens of state legislators, from both parties, have demanded the de-funding of a pro-Palestinian group at CUNY, a move denounced by the campus free speech group FIRE. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, when running for office, announced that BDS “has no place on Canadian campuses.” In France, people are literally arrested as criminals under “hate speech” laws for wearing T-shirts advocating BDS. Measures in the U.K. have been enacted to legally bar support for such boycott movements. Laws and proposed bills in Israel ban advocacy of the movement and bar supporters from entering Israel.
Sure, youtube and facebook are private venues but don’t act like Jews aren’t salivating at the possibility of outlawing holocaust denial like it has been done in so many European countries
go hide behind your Christian girlfriend
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speaking of the tough-talking moral high-grounders on this forum:
What's the difference between Phil Giraldi and Peter AUS?
Giraldi puts his background, his work experience, his analysis, and his name on the line.
Peter AUS? He's hiding out down under
Peter is very protective of his/her background & his/her name:
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-letter-to-my-american-friends/#comment-2015904Who are you afraid will "f*&k you up," Peter?
Phil Giraldi?
Ron Unz?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum. It's not unlikely Shama has connections that could implement his threats.
ADL runs a business based on exposing and intimidating people whose ideas and thoughts fail to comply with their ordained dogma.
Mark Zuckerberg just said his Facebook money machine isBut thank goodness,https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hacking-of-america/facebook-turn-over-russia-linked-ads-congress-n803581
Whew. That's a relief.
With Zuckerberg on the case, at least our elections will be secure and free of influence from foreign sources.
Oh, but did Z guarantee the privacy of participants on Facebook?
If he's "turning over" some advertisers, allegedly identified as linked to Russians, that means he can identify and segregate FB participants, and is willing -- even eager -- to reveal their identities, if conditions suit Zuckerberg's interests.
How secure does that make you feel, Peter AUS?
You have, on more than one occasion threatened Jewish public figures and ordinary Jews with death and violence. You should be ashamed if it is in your capacity to feel shame. If stopping your potential acts, as well those of inspired others, consequent to your words, require further undertaking, I would not object.
As for that moron upthread, baying like a possessed banshee, I now realise I was in error defending him when he was threatened by Jonathan.
Israel has hundreds of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons!!!
NETANYAHU PROMISES TO TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under." (Benjamin Netanyahu, Guardian September 21, 2003)
Holocaust and Anti-Semitism scam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE
Who is threatening who? Who is subverting who?
The idea that all these normal people want to kill Jews is a canard. It is not true – they want their country and culture back – no more. There are always those with blood in their eye – but they are a small minority.
Face it, when Mr. Sam says these things, he is reflexively doing his Stockholm Syndrome duties.
Think Peace --- Art
Why don’t the little Philosophical Christians “get after” the Christians like George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Donny Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice? Or are they Pagans?
now, didn't we?
The MSM is terrified of the alt rt, hence the banishment of A Anglin and the official enactment of hate speech legislation, and the censorship of free speech aimed at curbing white coalescence and advocacy
Your people at the ADL and SPLC have been exposed- for all the normies to see- what perfidious scum you people have always been.
We do - they are not peacemakers - they will never be invited to my house for dinner!
Think Peace --- Art
Wonder if FB will work with the Chinese and Saudi governments to also determine what should be censored?
Peace.
This is from Facebook’s White Paper from April:
• Sowing distrust in political institutions: In this case, fake account operators may not have a topical focus, but rather seek to undermine the status quo of political or civil society institutions on a more strategic level.
So yes, or does this only apply to us subversives here it Murica?
The idea that all these normal people want to kill Jews is a canard. It is not true – they want their country and culture back – no more. There are always those with blood in their eye – but they are a small minority.
Face it, when Mr. Sam says these things, he is reflexively doing his Stockholm Syndrome duties.
Think Peace --- Art
Philosophical Christians cannot go to Heaven; they can only go to a philosophical heaven where they watch Hogan’s Heroes reruns all day. On the other hand they can go to the real Hell. At altar call this Sunday go there and get on your knees and pray for forgiveness. Jesus loves you and will forgive you for spreading hate for his peeps.
You are joking -- right - you do not believe in the Jew god - he is a mean bastard - we can never have peace with the Jew view of god.
Think Peace --- Art
Here is the swamp fighting back…………..
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11042/plame-knew-what-she-was-tweeting
Maybe she found it the same way that you did.
LOL
Our PEA-brain Zionist sidekick is trying to make the case that the Cuban lobby is the equivalent of the Zionist lobby.
If that’s indeed the case, you shouldn’t have any difficulty explaining to us Dumb Goyim who the Cuban equivalent is of:
Paul (combs his hair with his own spit) Wolfowitz, former Deputy Secretary of Defense?
I Lewis (writer of the poplars love letter to Judith Miller) Libby, former Chief of Staff for VP Dick Cheney?
Douglas (the dumbest fucking guy on the planet) Feith, former under secretary of Defense for Policy?
Richard (the Prince of Darkness) Pearl, former chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee?
etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,
While you’re at it, could you also tell us how many wars the US launched against Cuba’s neighbours in an effort to enhance the security of the Cuban people and how the price tag for those wars compares to the $6 T shelled out by the American taxpayer for the wars to remake the ME?
Could you tell us the amount the US taxpayer has paid in annual tribute to Cuba at the behest of the Cuban lobby and how it compares to the $3.8 B they pay to Israel at the behest of the Zionist lobby?
Good luck!
To an outsider who observes what Americans call a democracy with amazed disbelief the differences between the Cuban and Israeli lobbies are less numerous than their similarities. True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequetial ànd far more costly than anything to do with Cuba but both lobbies are distortions of the process of democratic government which probably harm the average American. Both deal in corruption of the democratic process.
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum.
Where did he do this?
1. ask Sam
2. search the archives
As for that moron upthread, baying like a possessed banshee, I now realise I was in error defending him when he was threatened by Jonathan.
Yawn.
Of course they are driving America’s wars, and their fingerprints are ALL OVER the lead up, perpetration, and cover up of 9/11.
My god, why are so many people convinced that Jews view gentiles as “others”? You think I think less of my kids because their mother is catholic?
Why do you assume that you are a typical Jew? And why do you think Jewish Power is aligned with how Jews like you think?
Also, if Jews don’t see gentiles as others, they should give up their Jewish identity which is inherently us-versus-them as it’s premised on the notion of Jews having a special Covenant with God.
Now, I don’t mind Jews seeing gentiles as Others. I don’t mind any people seeing other people as Others. They should.
What bothers me is that Jews seem to think Others exist to support and serve interests that are meaningful only to Jews.
I mean, why should I hate Russia, Iran, Syria, Libya, etc?
Not my business.
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum.
Where did he do this?
Hey iffen-iffen,
I don’t know if I fit into the category of Sam The Sham’s having threatened to “dox” me, but I reckon he came mighty close to bestowing such honor!
At any rate, The Hasbara Cowboy is on record as having branded me a “bacterial strain” school bus driver, and boasted about the joys of “Nazi hunting” and some (to date) unconfirmed non-combatants. Hee-hee.
Had you recovered from an advanced learning deficiency, you would recall Sam The Sham having bared his fangs and warned me that “Winer is Coming” and unpleasantries when his tribe has complete control over how the rubble “buys and sells.”
(Sigh)
I figure you and The Sham would make a perfect dox-ed couple at a Jeffrey Epstein Halloween bash. Boo!
Selah.
If they are, what of it? Do you expect them to promote Holocaust denial?
The “six million lie” (holocaust) is a political matter – killing political speech is WRONG!
Now the First Amendment has to go – all for the “poor” victim Jews.
In stead of terrorizing America – maybe the Little Jews should go after the Big Jews!
(Hmm – that would require some courage.)
Think Peace — Art
p..s. When is it going to end – it is always the holocaust – it justifies all manor of evil. We are losing America and Western culture because of that it.
After I posted that I immediately remembered that I could just go to the site and search for Unz which I did. There is only one hit and that is from 2014. That article is quoted and referenced in some of the current comments and media pieces. Of particular note to me was that the piece from 2014 took great care to side-step the answer to the question of whether R. Unz is anti-Semitic. One question that I have is what exactly is the upper limit for publishing anti-Semitic material before the publisher can be considered anti-Semitic?
I hope the upper limit is calculated so as to discount the tedious repetitions of some of the regulars, e.g. Art and Wally.
When Jewish groups (ADL, AJC, etc.) were hypocritically denying the Armenian genocide, Phil Giraldi could have spoken up, but he didn’t.
He let these Jewish groups off the hook. He could have slammed them.
I followed his comments on this at the time (2007-8).
But I know for a fact that he does not like ethnic groups such as Armenian Americans, and so he let the issue alone. So even Phil is silent about Jews sometimes. He let Jewish hypocrites off the hook.
I’m referring generally to the problem we normally avoid thinking about when we have competing values which draws close to having to qualify near absolute values.
With “thou shalt not kill” we have long absorbed exceptions we are brought up to be comfortable with so it is hardly even a reference point for discussion. But principles of free speech and only killing Americans after due process and foreigners in lawful wars in lawful ways should, when ee confront reality, make us avoid oversimplifying the issues or the answers.
when Woodrow Wilson handed a cabal of Jewish banksters the keys to our Treasury
since then it's been wars and more wars and world wars and wars for Israel and more wars for Israel...
and the corruption and subversion of our currency with the Fed printing money to hand out to their Jewish bankster buddies until our dollar is worth a penny of its original value.
and our politicians serving the money men at the direct expense of the American people
duh
I see.
Or at least I am trying to see.
Could you help me clarify a couple of things, please?
From 1812 to 1913 US expanded using force of arms.
At the time Anglo-Saxons were the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was O.K, apparently.
From 1913 to today US has also been expanding by force of arms.
As you say, Jews have been the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was not O.K.
So, what exactly is not O.K. from 1913 to today?
Expansion by force of arms or Jews being in charge of that expansion?
And, based on previous question, should, by some miracle, Jews aren’t in charge anymore but, say, Anglo-Saxons again, then expansion by force of arms will be O.K. again?
Or, expansion by force of arms is O.K. as long as MY group is in charge?
Sounds about right?
Absolutely – if America decided to do something for itself – that not is only OK - it is imperative.
Jews First and Israel are a fifth column, a different country – we must do what is good for us – NOT them.
No question, America has done some good things and some bad things in history – but always we acted in our own interest. We are not doing that now – the Jews political cabal will not let us.
Think Peace --- Art
Jesus loves you and will forgive you for spreading hate for his peeps.
You are joking — right – you do not believe in the Jew god – he is a mean bastard – we can never have peace with the Jew view of god.
Think Peace — Art
plentyhere's your typical American reaping the benefits of Jewish war mongering
http://c5.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/N59065380/7864514_5Mi6Z.jpegthe working class of this country has been brutalized, while the one percent, especially on Wall Street, have been awash in Federal Reserve lucre
and you've got the pus-nads to suggest the American people have benefited by your zio-wars?
as they've been looted of trillions of dollars + debt to pay for them?
and justifiably hated the world over for America's serial belligerence and war criminality?
only a pus-filled POS like you would claim that as a benefit we should all be grateful for
kudos, you're winning the POS of the week award!
keep it up, let's see what other gems you can come up with.
perhaps the woman at that grave should be grateful her loved one died in wars based on lies to benefit a POS like you, eh?
My apologies.
I thought we were engaged in a meaningful conversation.
My bad.
Keep up the good work.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11042/plame-knew-what-she-was-tweeting
I actually read the Philip Giraldi article before I was aware of the Plame tweet. I read it on a neo-Nazi website, where Giraldi’s articles are frequently featured… She must explain how she came upon the article? Who sent it to her? Does she regularly read bigoted website?
Maybe she found it the same way that you did.
With "thou shalt not kill" we have long absorbed exceptions we are brought up to be comfortable with so it is hardly even a reference point for discussion. But principles of free speech and only killing Americans after due process and foreigners in lawful wars in lawful ways should, when ee confront reality, make us avoid oversimplifying the issues or the answers.
Okay, that’s what I was thinking, I just wanted to make sure.
You are joking -- right - you do not believe in the Jew god - he is a mean bastard - we can never have peace with the Jew view of god.
Think Peace --- Art
Just exactly how many Gods do you philosophical Christians believe exist?
Peace.
Another excellent post! How the heck did that get published in Salon??!!
Hi Talha,
The answer is simple – people really want to discuss the subject of Jew control over our country.
Support for the Jew agenda in America is a mile wide and a millimeter thick. Even the elite would love to get this monkey off our backs.
Think Peace — Art
Mr. Christian–You write very clearly and with great accuracy. And given your facts and thematic content, in looking at these same Tribal Zio-Dynamics played out now for 75 years, one is forced to ask: “How was Hitler wrong about Anything?” Maybe he read the “Talmud” !! Certainly, the long-wished-for extermination of the White Race is now underway in Europe. Ask any Swede ! “…And we shall drive them before us like Cattle–as Beasts of the Fields we shall drive them before us….”
There you go, again, with the W word.
I thought I clearly and directly addressed this statement by pointing out that while organized Jewry is ultimately responsible for pushing policies that are detrimental to the interests of the American people, the Jewish community must, as Philip Weiss has repeatedly pointed out, also step up to the plate and withdraw their support for these policies.
But to be fair, it isn’t just the Jewish community that must withdraw their support for these policies, their xtian Zionist sidekicks must do so, as well.
So the question I put to Jessica, can be put to you, as well:
2. search the archives
You search the archives and show me.
S2C is a mature & honorable thinker and has no need for my intervention here, but I know what you are.
Toying with an advantageous definition of the word "dox," you are no better than Zionist POTUS Slick Willie who made famous the assertion, "uh, it depends upon what is the definition of the word 'is' is."
I know what you are
Hopefully there will be no "jawohl Herr Hasbara Cowboy Commandant," response from S2C regarding your directive to search the U.R. archives for proof.
Bah!
In the words of Boris & Natasha, "poof you are a goof."
(Sigh) A few months ago. it is YOU who cunningly made a didactic comment at U.R. and informed "Anonymous" that all (comment) criticisms of Jewish political behavior are being monitored and collected for future "dox" associated recrimination.
To no avail, "Anonymous" pleaded with you to provide detail and explain what you know about Jewish surveillance and codification of the free thought of patriotic & aware Americans. Perhaps with some luck "Anonymous" will make timely comeback?
Again, I know what you are, an uptown Jew phoney.
Selah.
The Occupation of the American Mind (Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crY9qMIxznA
(Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
(Part 3) - [I think this really is Part 3, but with some commentary]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwGGmFy96w
h/t to Bob Beal and to RobinG for drawing attention to
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2013963
Occupation of the American Mind:
In the first part, Sut Jahlly, at about 7 min, Jhally introduces Frank Luntz and the manual he prepared in 2009, The Global Language Dictionary. Jhally reviews key points and processes taught through the GLD https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
@ 16 min, narrates how the devastating images of Israel’s killing activities in Lebanon in 1982 — its war against Lebanon, then the massacre at Sabra and Shatilla, which were broadcast round the world, were the near-equivalent of the concentration camp images that US psychological warfare practitioners used to such long-lasting effect against Germany.
Jhally says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbN2GEYW9w
Gates prefers not to use "zionist" to name the Criminal State, and argues that many Jews (Little Jews) are just as much the dupes and victims of the Criminal gang (Big Jews) as are the actual targets and assets of the crime gang.
Gates discusses how this Criminal Gang dominates the "middle space" -- the media: that space from which the population acquires the information it uses to make decisions.
Gates defines the "middle space."
Jhally reports on how Frank Luntz, Speilvogel, and numerous other Jewish media and PR experts conferred and came to a consensus (i.e. conspired) to shape the middle space to achieve Jewish ends by maneuvering American means.
As for that moron upthread, baying like a possessed banshee, I now realise I was in error defending him when he was threatened by Jonathan.
Would your circumcised self wish to address the following?
Israel has hundreds of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons!!!
NETANYAHU PROMISES TO TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD
“We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force…. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.” (Benjamin Netanyahu, Guardian September 21, 2003)
Holocaust and Anti-Semitism scam
Who is threatening who? Who is subverting who?
Of course, Netanyahu would be the one ordering that into something actionable (which I am fairly confident he would), but I don't think he would be as stupid as to make that publicly known to the world through his mouth.
Peace.
…But we did our part in the last election-
now, didn’t we?
The MSM is terrified of the alt rt, hence the banishment of A Anglin and the official enactment of hate speech legislation, and the censorship of free speech aimed at curbing white coalescence and advocacy
Your people at the ADL and SPLC have been exposed- for all the normies to see- what perfidious scum you people have always been.
Or at least I am trying to see.
Could you help me clarify a couple of things, please?
From 1812 to 1913 US expanded using force of arms.
At the time Anglo-Saxons were the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was O.K, apparently.
From 1913 to today US has also been expanding by force of arms.
As you say, Jews have been the ruling group.
And that expansion by force of arms was not O.K.
So, what exactly is not O.K. from 1913 to today?
Expansion by force of arms or Jews being in charge of that expansion?
And, based on previous question, should, by some miracle, Jews aren't in charge anymore but, say, Anglo-Saxons again, then expansion by force of arms will be O.K. again?
Or, expansion by force of arms is O.K. as long as MY group is in charge?
Sounds about right?
Or, expansion by force of arms is O.K. as long as MY group is in charge?
Absolutely – if America decided to do something for itself – that not is only OK – it is imperative.
Jews First and Israel are a fifth column, a different country – we must do what is good for us – NOT them.
No question, America has done some good things and some bad things in history – but always we acted in our own interest. We are not doing that now – the Jews political cabal will not let us.
Think Peace — Art
When you say ‘outside’ and ‘out there’, are you talking about the Jewish-controlled corporate media and social networks that fire journalists, terminate accounts, and censor comments that might offend the tribe?
So what you are really saying is, if it didn’t keep calling out the Jews, the Jews would like it more. Well that’s certainly logical!
Unfortunately, many of us are well past a point where we care what they like. We know full well that they are a problem and we assign great respect to authors such as Mr. Giraldi who are able to clearly, eloquently and fairly point out the elephant in the room and all the damage it’s causing to the furniture.
Let's take a purely logical approach to this proposition. Is it not true that a war against Iraq was an important Israeli strategic objective (see the Oded Yinon Plan and PNAC's A Clean Break)? Was not PNAC's remaking of MENA pushed by the neocons to enhance the security of the villa in the jungle. Isn't it the case that the overwhelming majority of American Jewry have a passionate attachment to the villa? Doesn't it follow that they would be supportive of policies that promoted the security interests of said villa?
What are we to make of this statement by Malcolm Hoenlein, executive vice chairman of the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations:
"In the American Jewish community, there's a great deal of support for the president's stand [on invading Iraq]."
http://www.salon.com/2002/09/14/jews_iraq/
Isn't it true that while American Jewry is usually at the forefront of progressive issues, they are mostly silent on the issue of I/P. Isn't that the origin for the expression PEP, Progressive except Palestine? Isn't this the reality that Philip Weiss often writes about? Isn't that why he'd like to have a more open debate within the American Jewish community about whether support for the special relationship is in the long term interests of America and Israel?
So, to prove the validity of your proposition, isn't it incumbent upon the majority of the members of the American Jewish community to publicly acknowledge that the interests of the US and Israel are not identical (as The Lobby contends) and that The Lobby is doing tremendous damage to the interests of the American people?
Isn't it time for the majority of the Jewish community to publicly renounce its support for the special relationship? Won't this definitively demonstrate, once and for all, they are prepared to put the interests of the US ahead of those of any foreign country, including Israel?
Final question: are you, yourself, prepared to renounce support for the special relationship?
Wouldn’t you know it, right on cue, here is an excerpt from Phil Weiss’ latest installment on this very topic:
Israel has hundreds of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons!!!
NETANYAHU PROMISES TO TAKE DOWN THE ENTIRE WORLD
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force.... We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under." (Benjamin Netanyahu, Guardian September 21, 2003)
Holocaust and Anti-Semitism scam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE
Who is threatening who? Who is subverting who?
Was that Netanyahu? I thought that was the Israeli military historian, Martin van Creveld, talking. I could be wrong – it’s been a while since I read the quote.
Of course, Netanyahu would be the one ordering that into something actionable (which I am fairly confident he would), but I don’t think he would be as stupid as to make that publicly known to the world through his mouth.
Peace.
1) Israel has HUNDREDS of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons.
2) Israel has waged illegal wars on its neighbors and committed numerous war crimes on the Palestinians.
3) The Israeli Lobby in America has been working overtime to encourage these behaviors and suppress the evidence.
Why don’t the little Philosophical Christians “get after” the Christians like George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Donny Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice? Or are they Pagans?
We do – they are not peacemakers – they will never be invited to my house for dinner!
Think Peace — Art
On another note, these folks have such a hate-on for Iran, they are willing to be in bed with Wahabbi KSA. Go figure.
the alarmist why do not you rveal your true iranian name instead of hidding benide a fictious one?
It’s hilarious that a modern welfare/warfare state of 350 million people with the most expensive military on the planet is being led around on a leash by a small band of conniving jooie cultists led by a furniture salesman from Philadelphia. Talk about pitiful helpless giants……
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2013963
Occupation of the American Mind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7BBIhzI1Qc
In the first part, Sut Jahlly, at about 7 min, Jhally introduces Frank Luntz and the manual he prepared in 2009, The Global Language Dictionary. Jhally reviews key points and processes taught through the GLD https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
@ 16 min, narrates how the devastating images of Israel's killing activities in Lebanon in 1982 -- its war against Lebanon, then the massacre at Sabra and Shatilla, which were broadcast round the world, were the near-equivalent of the concentration camp images that US psychological warfare practitioners used to such long-lasting effect against Germany.
Jhally says:
Jeff Gates has analyzed the persons, organizations, and methods of what he calls the “Criminal State.”
Gates prefers not to use “zionist” to name the Criminal State, and argues that many Jews (Little Jews) are just as much the dupes and victims of the Criminal gang (Big Jews) as are the actual targets and assets of the crime gang.
Gates discusses how this Criminal Gang dominates the “middle space” — the media: that space from which the population acquires the information it uses to make decisions.
Gates defines the “middle space.”
Jhally reports on how Frank Luntz, Speilvogel, and numerous other Jewish media and PR experts conferred and came to a consensus (i.e. conspired) to shape the middle space to achieve Jewish ends by maneuvering American means.
[for the record, and for all the people who take a peek at the comment section of this article, no one is blaming all the Jews of the world for the serial wars of the neocon Jews and their myriad goyim stooges. But it's past time for us all to speak what everyone by now knows; and that is that the wars in the Middle East and relentless sabre rattling at Russia are a consequence of the inordinate power and influence Jews have attained by hook and crook over our foreign policy and media, etc... Duh]with the advent of inane and vapid comments from Greg Boles and "An American Patriot", it would seem this article is generating an increased and well-deserved interest. It should be fun to watch as the shills and fools flay themselves on the rocks of Unz Review truth.
Bring on the shills!
As much as I despise the neocons, I despise the leftist, SJW Jews even more, because I think that the SJWs are more corrosive. Both groups are likely to destroy the U.S., but the Zionists at least need a functioning host.
Phil, it seems your provocative article has inspired others to follow your suit. I’ve been reading consortium news for awhile now, but I have never read anything as provocative as Robert Parry’s most recent article, The Crazy Imbalance of Russia-gate. It starts off by referencing “the 8,000-pound gorilla in the room,” and it only gets better from that point onward. I think it’s fair to say that, unlike Valerie Plame, Parry more or less agrees with the thesis of your article. Hopefully, he won’t end up recanting as Plame did.
All I can say is, I hope this is the tip of the proverbial iceberg:
This is exactly why they'll be getting livid, denouncing Phil, trying to block further escalations in order to prevent other people from feeling encouraged to speak up.
They're having crisis meetings about how to deal with this right now!
Well, given the media firestorm and gigantic traffic surrounding Phil’s column, I decided I might as well actually read the piece myself (though certainly not the 75,000 words of comments!), something I only rarely find time to do with the material published on my small webzine. Just as I’d assumed from the title, the article was entirely accurate and correct.
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent—and prospective!—Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel’s various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as “ignorant half-wits,” but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I’d go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had “legs.” This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I’d still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor’s New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python’s LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks “Are any of you women?” all reply “No!” in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out “No Jews here!” at the top of their lungs…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1DkTruth and ACTUAL facts are kryptonite to Clan Circumcision.ALL religions have their share of meatheads. Since this article is about Israel and American Jews, this is where I have focused. It is impossible to talk about the Middle East without including Israel. A clip from the great comedian George Carlin RIP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuEAn example of a meathead and his stooge:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/09/21/benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-is-israels-best-puppet/And another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWhKk4t8C6QFree your mind and your arse will follow
LOL
If so this would certainly affirm your loyalty to America. You can't have dual loyalty if you're banned from Israel, hence you're solely American.
Perhaps we should encourage as many Jews as possible to follow suite and get themselves banned from Israel }:-)
Disagree with my opinion and this is what you are.
This is one of the things that I love about UR; ad hominem is not frowned upon, nay, it has an honored place.
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
For both yourself and Mr Giraldi however, I have one question: Of the non-Jew Israel Firsters, how many are Evangelicals, or rely on the Military Industrial Complex for livelihood, or military officers who make ridiculous sums when deployed to “war” zones? Aren’t they ALL self-dealing traitors???
Regarding Iran, it almost comedy when you claim that this conflict would be for Israel and American Jews. Why? Well, let’s start with the “death to America” chant coming from Iranian leaders and the IRG. Then let’s recall the Americans, non-Jews no doubt, illegally kidnapped by Iran. Then let’s recall all the American military patriots who were maimed and murdered by Iranian IED’s. Then let’s go back to the bombing of American embassy’s around the world that Iran is behind. Then let’s recall the Marine baracks bombed in Lebanon. And finally, let’s recall the American hostages held by Iran for 444 days after they took over our embassy in Tehran.
But, yeah, I guess you’re right......it’s the Jews fault. It’s always the Jews fault. Got it.
Every conflict in ME now is under the orders of World Zionists. If we revisit the past Iran vs Anglo-American-Zionists axis, I’m afraid UK will go bankrupt paying Iran the stolen wealth. The US will have to cut “protection money “payments to their boss, the Zionists . Iran never fought a war against The US or Israel.
The Beirut bombings happened during the Lebanese civil war. The US sent a naval blockade to broker peace. Instead, they sided with Phalanges, when they were supposed to be “neutral “. Has America ever been neutral when it comes to the Zionists?
American ships started bombing villages in the Shuff mountains , just above Beirut, shelling Muslim villages No reason was ever given by Reagan regime for The unprovoked shelling of the innocents. They wou repeat this again when Iran wouldn’t lose the war against her by the US ( on the covert side) European countries, most of Arab countries, and purposely with full knowledge shot down a commercial airliner and murdered in cold blood 290 innocent lives.
Neutral, fair, or an unpaid slaves?
What reaction would anyone have for such a dirty game.
Blame the patriotic Lebanese Why turn on Iran for every failure our government make and blame a country that has been under direct and indirect attack since they broke the chains of bondage. Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, Al Shabab, ISIS, all caused by Iran?
What about USS Liberty, Polard, Rosenbergs , Netanyahu, Lieberman , Cardin…….it’ll take an encyclopedia to list them all.
Is there a real “reason ” to make Iran our enemy? Really?
“If you hate Jews, then figure out a way besides your computer, cell phone and internet to communicate” — You mean, no true Jew should listen to Beethoven?
Before the Jewish Bolsheviks became “victims” (again?) some of them killed and tortured a lot of non-Jews and some were particularly active at destroying the Russian culture. Just check the names of Kaganovich, Yagoda, and Zemlyachka, for starter. https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/
Not all Jews were evil and not all bright Jews have left Russia. Moreover, not many bright Jews want to live in Bibi-land.
Anything said that is negative about Jews is anti-Semitic. They can never do wrong and can only be judged by fellow tribe members.
They are “royalty ” and above all, slave masters.
This is incorrect.
The idea that merely criticizing actions or behavior by Jews or Israeli policies is anti-Semitic is a propaganda meme spread by anti-Semites.
Why do you hate truth ? Because it is antisemitic ?
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Thank you Mr. Unz and Giraldi. Here’s a clip of the hilarious Monty Python stoning scene:
Truth and ACTUAL facts are kryptonite to Clan Circumcision.
ALL religions have their share of meatheads. Since this article is about Israel and American Jews, this is where I have focused. It is impossible to talk about the Middle East without including Israel. A clip from the great comedian George Carlin RIP:
An example of a meathead and his stooge:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/09/21/benjamin-netanyahu-donald-trump-is-israels-best-puppet/
And another:
Free your mind and your arse will follow
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Hi Ron. Well said! So true! Zionist power and influence is real. And it is immense. It is also destructive. Whole nations have been destroyed. Millions have died. And there’s more mayhem to come.
The Zionist phenomena needs to be examined critically and without censorship. Thank you for providing a much-needed platform for Philip Giraldi. a brilliant analyst and courageous American. Please don’t let the pro-Zionist censors stop you. Unz.com is a vital intellectual resource.
Of course, Netanyahu would be the one ordering that into something actionable (which I am fairly confident he would), but I don't think he would be as stupid as to make that publicly known to the world through his mouth.
Peace.
I just tried searching the Guardian for this quote I had bookmarked many years ago. It is now missing from their archives (why am I surprised?).
Would it actually surprise anyone if Nutsnyoyo had stated this?
Underlining FACTS:
1) Israel has HUNDREDS of ILLEGAL Nuclear Weapons.
2) Israel has waged illegal wars on its neighbors and committed numerous war crimes on the Palestinians.
3) The Israeli Lobby in America has been working overtime to encourage these behaviors and suppress the evidence.
Thanks for pointing to that article..it was excellent and the comment section is also a great read!!
This unholy alliance between U.S. neoconservatives and Netanyahu was no accident. They had long been partners. Back in the late 1970’s, Netanyahu convened many of these same thinkers to Israel for a summit at the Jonathan Institute—an event which some have called the birth of the American neoconservative movement. Back then, their focus was hostility to the Soviet Union and the “national liberation movements” alleged to be Soviet pawns. The ideology they spawned was decidedly pro-Israel and anti-Arab, and extremely hostile to all things Palestinian.
https://972mag.com/netanyahus-israel-is-a-cauldron-waiting-for-the-next-explosion/129815/
An opening note to the book states:There were 48 speeches in the seven sessions of the conference; 26 of the speeches used the word "terror" in its title; only one of the speeches mentioned the Soviets: Brian Crozier's presentation was titled "Soviet Support for International Terrorism." This comment/correction is not just a pedantic quibble with Zogby's misstatements. The Jonathan Institute, the raid at Entebbe that gave rise to it, and this conference and the memes, vocabulary, frames, personalities and (already well-established) ideologies represented at it, are crucial for understanding the US - Israel relationship and the wars that have been fought as a consequence of that relationship.
LOL …this guy gave some of you hope??
“In fact, Bannon loves Israel and the Jewish people, and hates anti-Semites and racists. In his former position in the Trump administration and at Breitbart, Bannon has been and continues to be a leading defender of Israel and the Jewish people.
Vanity Fair recently reported that, in his position in the Trump administration, Bannon valiantly fought to move the United States Embassy in Israe lto Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, and refused to attend a White House meeting with Palestinian Authority Ppresident Mahmoud Abbas, saying, “I’m not going to breathe the same air as that terrorist.”
Bannon bravely fought to place the strongest possible defenders of Israel and the toughest opponents of Iran’s nuclear and terrorist activities in key Mideast policy positions in the Trump administration. A well-known top-level Israeli official told me privately: “Mort, you know from the outside that Bannon is a friend of Israel. I can tell you as an insider that he is the greatest friend of Israel imaginable.”
http://forward.com/opinion/382126/steve-bannon-loves-israel-and-the-jews-really/
I figured it must be pretty good to get him so enraged.
It was.
I was listening to Marc Levin last night and he was PISSED about this article.
Levin is a so called conservative Jew who gets many things right about the liberal Jewish destruction of America’s culture.
He goes on and on about free speech and the US constitution – but when the ME comes up, he is 100% NECON and goes off the deep end – he has one set of rules for America and another for Israel.
Michael Savage is another Jew radio host, who has exactly the same stick.
They both are flawed dishonest Little Jews fearful of the Big Jews.
Think Peace — Art
Yeah, our political strategists may not have understood the entire risk we were taking on, but the dancing Israelis on 911 and their leaders sure did.
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Brilliant reply!!!
LOL
Good point, Geo !
This is exactly why they’ll be getting livid, denouncing Phil, trying to block further escalations in order to prevent other people from feeling encouraged to speak up.
They’re having crisis meetings about how to deal with this right now!
Advisor,
No doubt with your giant heavyweight brain you are totally comfortable with Jewish oversight. Others, less so, and little to do with peas or other insulting comments.
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
I call them traitors.
I love that, right back to Hitler. I point to the avarice and desire of present day American Jews to undermine the society through their media and YOU trot out Hitler. Said American Jews advocate behaviors in our young through academia and media that they would never desire for their own. Modern-Day Israel has walls and gun towers keeping out the Arabs (not that I blame them), yet Jewish media in this country advocates free-borders. Their hypocrisy is breathtaking. Yet, you drag out Hitler. As for the United States, they could write a book about the Family Krupp-Stein (Lockeed, Boeing, all the rest) and the wars they drive. Do a who’s who of the biggest stockholders and boards and corporate members. Please.
My clan is substantially smaller for WW2, my Pop and all his brothers had 6 or more kids and so the 6 or 8 that he knew of that got killed in Europe didn’t get to beget more Christian kiddies for themselves. And they got croaked in some measure, on behalf of Jews. So spare me Hitler in all this. As for me, I danced on the flight decks of a couple of carriers in an A6 squadron, mostly in the eastern Mediterranean in direct support of Israel and Carter’s gunboat diplomacy and while I was at it wandered all over that God-Forsaken rock-turned-oasis. With all this, MY conscience is QUITE clean. We’re not talking Hitler, we’re pointing out excesses and undermining of the society that came to save “what was left of the Jews” from Hitler 75 years back. If Hitler was doing all that killing, it sure was a good thing we came to help! Ignored by Jews of today, but there WAS sacrifice on their behalf. Instead, WE get credit for Hitler.
Pointing out Jewish-owned media’s push for degraded behavior and social norms while they demand the opposite for their own isn’t Hitler, it’s a demand for accountability, but that flew long ago. Protest, it’s “Hitler!”. Hilarious meme, that.
Excellent.
There are about 2.5 Billion Christians who believe in the Bible and their Jewish Messiah, born in Yisrael. All Evangelical Christians believe and support Yisrael with prayers and some with money. Bible command us Christians to support Yisrael.
Romans 15.27 - Yes, they were pleased to do so, and they are indebted to them (Jews). For if the Gentiles have shared in their spiritual things, they are indebted to minister to them also in material things.
So include all of us (Christians) who support Yisrael in your wrong thinking.
You so called “Christians” should not conflate Jews with Zionists. You also need to include the writings of Isaiah in your studies. And I hope you’re not including the State of Israel in your prayers because it is an evil entity. As evil as the USA.
Here’s another
And another
I'll worry about Arab claims when they return Egypt to Christendom. It took centuries to get Iberia back, if you remember.
Our PEA-brain Zionist sidekick is trying to make the case that the Cuban lobby is the equivalent of the Zionist lobby.
If that's indeed the case, you shouldn't have any difficulty explaining to us Dumb Goyim who the Cuban equivalent is of:
Paul (combs his hair with his own spit) Wolfowitz, former Deputy Secretary of Defense?
I Lewis (writer of the poplars love letter to Judith Miller) Libby, former Chief of Staff for VP Dick Cheney?
Douglas (the dumbest fucking guy on the planet) Feith, former under secretary of Defense for Policy?
Richard (the Prince of Darkness) Pearl, former chairman of the Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee?
etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.,
While you're at it, could you also tell us how many wars the US launched against Cuba's neighbours in an effort to enhance the security of the Cuban people and how the price tag for those wars compares to the $6 T shelled out by the American taxpayer for the wars to remake the ME?
Could you tell us the amount the US taxpayer has paid in annual tribute to Cuba at the behest of the Cuban lobby and how it compares to the $3.8 B they pay to Israel at the behest of the Zionist lobby?
Good luck!
That’s quite a rant? Whar set it off? You seem to be accusing Iffen of being a “Zionist sidekick” which is beyond absurd if you bother at all about fairness and accuracy. (I recall the very odd statement that he didn’t know any Jews or Palestinians though I don’t rely on that for my opinion of his stance).
To an outsider who observes what Americans call a democracy with amazed disbelief the differences between the Cuban and Israeli lobbies are less numerous than their similarities. True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequetial ànd far more costly than anything to do with Cuba but both lobbies are distortions of the process of democratic government which probably harm the average American. Both deal in corruption of the democratic process.
It means that my views and opinions about Jews and Israel are not influenced (contaminated?) by the fact that my best friend is a Jew. Of course the flip side is also true.
True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequential
Yes, we spent a lot of treasure years ago combating the evil Cuban influence in Central and South America.
I am a Zionist to the extent that, in political terms, I give retroactive approval to the establishment of the Mandate and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel by the Jews in Palestine.
In an earlier life I was an Evangelical Christian and believed in a Biblical justification for the existence of Israel. Most of the people that I care about are Evangelical Christians and within the context of American electoral politics I believe that they are entitled to have their preferences, including their preferences with regard to Israel, considered and I support them in their exercise of political influence.
I consider Zionism a form of nationalism.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
Regarding Iran, it almost comedy when you claim that this conflict would be for Israel and American Jews. Why? Well, let’s start with the “death to America” chant coming from Iranian leaders and the IRG. Then let’s recall the Americans, non-Jews no doubt, illegally kidnapped by Iran. Then let’s recall all the American military patriots who were maimed and murdered by Iranian IED’s. Then let’s go back to the bombing of American embassy’s around the world that Iran is behind. Then let’s recall the Marine baracks bombed in Lebanon. And finally, let’s recall the American hostages held by Iran for 444 days after they took over our embassy in Tehran.
But, yeah, I guess you’re right......it’s the Jews fault. It’s always the Jews fault. Got it.
In all your recalling, why don’t you consider recalling the Allies’ surprise attack on Iran (Persia) in 1941 (prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor) and the subsequent confiscation of Iran’s oil fields and oil industry and the establishment of the Persian Corridor through which the Allies, the USA included, shipped enough war materiel to Bloody Joey Stalin sufficient to equip 60 Soviet divisions?
How about recalling the toppling of the Shah?
Do you recall that the US shot down Iranian passenger airliner 655, which was in Iranian territory?
How’z about recalling the continuous provocation and threats against Iran including economic sanctions ( a prelude to war), by the US and Israel?
I’m sure if you tried hard you could do some recalling, no?
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Ron, I wonder if you, like Norman Finkelstein, have already been declared persona non grata by Israel.
If so this would certainly affirm your loyalty to America. You can’t have dual loyalty if you’re banned from Israel, hence you’re solely American.
Perhaps we should encourage as many Jews as possible to follow suite and get themselves banned from Israel }:-)
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter.
Disagree with my opinion and this is what you are.
This is one of the things that I love about UR; ad hominem is not frowned upon, nay, it has an honored place.
If someone is just, like, helping out a mensch, and it so ends up contributing, even in a small way, to seditious conspiracy?
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2015240What if there was an embedded cultural norm to always favour the perceived 'in-tribe'?How would you differentiate?If you drew the line at the US Federal Law 18 U.S. Code Chapter 115, how many would qualify as "bad"?The volume would likely cause the Federal court system to implode, even if a large percentage of the workers in the system were not on trial.
Why would one need to?
I would like to remind everyone here that the war is always between the arrogant, greedy, unjust SOBs of all stripes, and the rest of us, so let’s not turn this into a religious or ethnic conflict.
They are "royalty " and above all, slave masters.
Anything said that is negative about Jews is anti-Semitic.
This is incorrect.
The idea that merely criticizing actions or behavior by Jews or Israeli policies is anti-Semitic is a propaganda meme spread by anti-Semites.
Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
Jews have too much power in the business world
Jews have too much power in international financial markets
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust
Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind
Jews have too much control over global affairs
Jews have too much control over the United States government
Jews think they are better than other people
Jews have too much control over the global media
Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars
People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave
I got 4 out of 11!
To an outsider who observes what Americans call a democracy with amazed disbelief the differences between the Cuban and Israeli lobbies are less numerous than their similarities. True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequetial ànd far more costly than anything to do with Cuba but both lobbies are distortions of the process of democratic government which probably harm the average American. Both deal in corruption of the democratic process.
I stand corrected, Wiz. Henceforth, I’ll be sure to include the word “former”:
And, in deference to the Wiz, by some “former” xtian Zionists.
Tell us, where did all that "Jew thing" start in US?
Pick the number:
1. 1812 -Canada
2, 1830 Indian Removal Act
3. 1846-Mexico
4. 1894-Hawaii
5. 1895-Cuba
6. 1899-Philippines
Let's stop at 6 for the moment.
So...when in all that push/expansion, by force of arms, Jews were instigators/in control?
Just pick a number.
The first three were for the benefit of the United States and the American people. The last three we should not have been involved with . Your numbers 5 & 6 are really one conflict. We did not have the Philippines until we took them from the Spanish during the war over Cuba. I do blame that idiotic war for most of our problems in the 20th Century, at least in the Pacific. No Spanish American War then you have no empire spread across the Pacific then you have no conflict with Japan in the late 1930′s and early 1940′s.
Would that both idiot Roosevelt cousins had been strangled in the crib. Instead of fighting Spain, the Navy should have been sinking ships bringing immigrants to our shores.
I am glad we did not take Canada. The US has enough frozen tundra unfit for human habitation as it is.
Removing the stone age savage from our land was a good and just act.
Mexico should not have picked a fight over the Rio Grande.
Hey Shammy,
S2C is a mature & honorable thinker and has no need for my intervention here, but I know what you are.
Toying with an advantageous definition of the word “dox,” you are no better than Zionist POTUS Slick Willie who made famous the assertion, “uh, it depends upon what is the definition of the word ‘is’ is.”
I know what you are
Hopefully there will be no “jawohl Herr Hasbara Cowboy Commandant,” response from S2C regarding your directive to search the U.R. archives for proof.
Bah!
In the words of Boris & Natasha, “poof you are a goof.”
(Sigh) A few months ago. it is YOU who cunningly made a didactic comment at U.R. and informed “Anonymous” that all (comment) criticisms of Jewish political behavior are being monitored and collected for future “dox” associated recrimination.
To no avail, “Anonymous” pleaded with you to provide detail and explain what you know about Jewish surveillance and codification of the free thought of patriotic & aware Americans. Perhaps with some luck “Anonymous” will make timely comeback?
Again, I know what you are, an uptown Jew phoney.
Selah.
To an outsider who observes what Americans call a democracy with amazed disbelief the differences between the Cuban and Israeli lobbies are less numerous than their similarities. True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequetial ànd far more costly than anything to do with Cuba but both lobbies are distortions of the process of democratic government which probably harm the average American. Both deal in corruption of the democratic process.
I recall the very odd statement that he didn’t know any Jews or Palestinians
It means that my views and opinions about Jews and Israel are not influenced (contaminated?) by the fact that my best friend is a Jew. Of course the flip side is also true.
True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequential
Yes, we spent a lot of treasure years ago combating the evil Cuban influence in Central and South America.
Well I stand more fully informed anyway! I didn’t remeember or indeed see that declaration. I remain surprised at the possibility that he really doesn’t know any Jews. (He did say that didn’t he?). But, come to think of it, I don’t know any Evangelical Zionists or indeed any Evangelicals at all, although I will stick up for the memory of those Evangelicals who tried to make the Anglican (CofE/Episcopal) Church an improving moral force from about 1750.
Rich, coming from a “former” xtian Zionist who accuses others of being rubber boot wearers, droppers of pellets, or modern day nazis.
Disagree with my opinion and this is what you are.
This is one of the things that I love about UR; ad hominem is not frowned upon, nay, it has an honored place.
Nice try iffen, you will have noticed, however, that Ron didn’t talk about his “opinion”! He, was simply concurring with Phil’s point that many of the pro Iran war opinion shapers were Jewish. Now, if you have facts to suggest that Kristol, Wurmser, Abrams, and the whole class from hell are not Jewish, we (and they, I am sure) will be very interested to hear more about that, otherwise we will have to assume that their ethnicity is not a matter of our humble opinions.
Yes, indeed. And all that effort was primarily due to the machinations of the Cuban neocons and other members of the American Cuba Public Affairs Commmittee (ACPAC).
To an outsider who observes what Americans call a democracy with amazed disbelief the differences between the Cuban and Israeli lobbies are less numerous than their similarities. True, in recent times the ME policies are far more consequetial ànd far more costly than anything to do with Cuba but both lobbies are distortions of the process of democratic government which probably harm the average American. Both deal in corruption of the democratic process.
Users of weasel language demand that others be very precise with the words that they use, yet hold themselves exempt from doing so.
I am a Zionist to the extent that, in political terms, I give retroactive approval to the establishment of the Mandate and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel by the Jews in Palestine.
In an earlier life I was an Evangelical Christian and believed in a Biblical justification for the existence of Israel. Most of the people that I care about are Evangelical Christians and within the context of American electoral politics I believe that they are entitled to have their preferences, including their preferences with regard to Israel, considered and I support them in their exercise of political influence.
I consider Zionism a form of nationalism.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
Thus, once again, If-it endorses murder, theft, lying, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid.
"...on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state." Well actually, Israel's terms are quite different from other people/states. Certainly nothing like ours.
Israel is an entirely different case. It first came into existence in the minds of European Jews living in Europe and it was only later that the demographic foundation was established. It was established by coercion and forced migration, both in to and out of an arbitrary and already populated piece of land. Israel is illegitimate firstly because there was no substantial history of Jewish residence on the claimed land, secondly because the preexistent population was disserviced and remains to this day aggrieved, and thirdly because the borders have never been officially established.
So by the 'same terms as any other people', the Palestinians would have the absolute right to establish their own state, whereas Israel is illegitimate and the Ashkenazis should go back to wherever they originally came from.
Are you capable of switching gears – of changing your opinion? In the fullness of time, what was created by Zionism turned out to be very ugly.
Zionism is a racist fascist ideology – why does it have a right to a slice of our earth? Could not some other Jewish ideology establish Israel?
It is 100% for sure that Zionism has been a negative force in this world. Zionism continues to do bad things.
Why are you still a Zionist?
Think Peace --- Art
Yeah, yeah, we get it. Only your kind are entitled to feel that way. Read the article. Who is threatening whom with physical harm?
I guess only “Jews” can are entitled to feel victimized and are the only ones entitled to advocate physical harm on others. How special. Tender, too.
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Careful, Ron. You’re likely to be accused of being a “self-hating Jew” by our resident hasbarist Zionists and their “former” xtian Zionist sidekicks.
Hannah Arendt, to name just one, predicted that.
From Giraldi’s article:
“…any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity.”
It didn’t take long for Giraldi’s prophecy to be fulfilled: The Board at The American Conservative magazine fired him.
All I can say to those folks, Robert Merry, Jon Basil Utley, Scott McConnell, Bradley Birzer, Boyden Gray and the rest of the panicky crew, is run, run into the arms of the Neocons at Commentary and National Review. Run, you little shits.
It’s too bad the Zionists, (aka fake Jews) have suckered so many otherwise decent Jews into supporting their causes.
The troublemakers obviously don’t give a flip about the “Jew in the street” any more than they care about anyone else.
I guess all their Muslim baiting and bashing along with their vilification of anything related to Christianity hasn’t fomented enough strife and chaos, so now they’re turning up the heat on real Jews.
The rats named in the article, and their lackeys, have nothing to do with Jews. Nothing at all, and the type has been with humanity from the beginning. They come in all forms, too, so we must never lose sight of that.
It’s a relative handful of uber-rich cloacas who are the problem and not all of them are Jews. Please remember that.
The title of the article should be, “America’s Fraudulent Jews Are Driving American Plutocrats’ Wars.”
"...any organization that aspires to be heard on foreign policy knows that to touch the live wire of Israel and American Jews guarantees a quick trip to obscurity."
It didn't take long for Giraldi's prophecy to be fulfilled: The Board at The American Conservative magazine fired him.
All I can say to those folks, Robert Merry, Jon Basil Utley, Scott McConnell, Bradley Birzer, Boyden Gray and the rest of the panicky crew, is run, run into the arms of the Neocons at Commentary and National Review. Run, you little shits.
Source?
I had never heard of Philip Giraldi before coming across a link to his latest tirade against Jewish folk, while reading the Times of Israel this past week. My gosh, if his article was written in German, I would have believed that it came from Der Stuermer in 1934 Germany.
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960′s (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same …. Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi’s previous articles clearly exposes this ‘eminent’ historian’s ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, …. you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN … ‘friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America’s other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America’s annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel”.
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message …… it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi’s bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America’s best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
It appears the thrust of the argument you've put forward rests on an assessment of the net benefits that the special relationship proffers the US. And on the basis of your 700 word comment, you would like the reader to believe the scales indicate the assets outweigh the liabilities... and you provide the following as just one example of those benefits:There's one problem with this line of argument, though. Two distinguished Profs. (Mearsheimer & Walt) from two of the most prestigious academic institutions in the country (University of Chicago and Harvard) wrote a book (463 pages), The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, in which they devoted an entire chapter on this very topic, Ch. 2 Israel: Strategic Asset or Liability?
Here's a summary of their assessment that shows the opposite - i.e., the liabilities outweigh the assets:
You need to go back and continue reading The Times.
This whole comment is a lie a sentence - but the above is truly galling.
Thousands of US solders dead, hundreds of thousands maimed for life, trillions in treasure - and we are supposed to be grateful to the Jews.
It is no wonder that Jews are hated.
(Hate the sin – not the sinner.)
Think Peace --- Art
is that what all those billions of dollars of aid the Americans who died on that day were paying for?
"it's very good"
I would like to remind everyone here that the war is always between the arrogant, greedy, unjust SOBs of all stripes, and the rest of us, so let's not turn this into a religious or ethnic conflict.
Did I misunderstand you at all times when we parried words? What you wrote here is all that needs be said. Period. When a reader encounters as relentless a stream of attack as at the UR, they are bound to attack back. Anyway, you have spoken the basic, honest truth.
I believe my source is reliable and my post to be correct.
Why don’t you go to the TAC site, contact the mag’s Board members directly and ask them yourself? I’m sure they are anxious to trumpet their courageous action.
[I guess only “Jews” can are entitled to feel victimized and are the only ones entitled to advocate physical harm on others. ]
I should really like to know, precisely when I said or implied that. Did I ever, write threatening the death of known public figures? Ever imply or directly encourage physical harm upon anyone? There is a difference. One never knows when some complete mental case might take his cue after reading the material here and decide to harm, even assassinate one of these public figures.
Like I said, read the article. I should not have to point out that the State of Israel and its poodle, the USA, present themselves as swaggering bullies every chance they get. It gets tiresome.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum .
Not that I disagree with the substance of your comment though the monopolistic power of entities like Google and to a vastly lesser extent Facebook begins to alarm me.
Does this mean we don’t get to parry words any longer? With whom shall I practice my poetry?
Let me parry a few words with Ron, as I just noticed his comment entry!
You never did, but those who you seem to defend, certainly do. I could be wrong about who you seem to defend tho.
Like I said, read the article. I should not have to point out that the State of Israel and its poodle, the USA, present themselves as swaggering bullies every chance they get. It gets tiresome.
I am a Zionist to the extent that, in political terms, I give retroactive approval to the establishment of the Mandate and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel by the Jews in Palestine.
In an earlier life I was an Evangelical Christian and believed in a Biblical justification for the existence of Israel. Most of the people that I care about are Evangelical Christians and within the context of American electoral politics I believe that they are entitled to have their preferences, including their preferences with regard to Israel, considered and I support them in their exercise of political influence.
I consider Zionism a form of nationalism.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
“I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state ….”
Thus, once again, If-it endorses murder, theft, lying, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid.
“…on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.” Well actually, Israel’s terms are quite different from other people/states. Certainly nothing like ours.
Who is this "ours" of which you speak, Kemosabe?
Judeans are Middle Eastern; Jews are ancestral converts to Judaism (only in appearance) from a Turko-Mongolic fallen country known as Khazaria. Judaism, like all other -isms, is a construct of the European banking cartels, which are composed and headed by Khazarians. The Khazarians are everyone's problem today because of their "chosen" ideology and the depths to which they've implemented it over centuries. The Khazarian Jews morphed a Yiddish culture into a Semitic appearing one. They are not Semites. They are descendants of Cain, not Shem or Sem.
The Hebrew religion is only the Books of Moses. Judaism is the Books of Moses as amended and defied by the Talmud and Kabala. The Talmud and Kabala are aimed at creating loopholes in the Word of God as passed on to Moses. They took the first five books of the Torah, and added their own. Because the Talmud and Kabala defy the Word of God, they are, by definition, Satanic. They have added books to the Tanakh that are purely political and a mountainload of tactics and strategies on how to dominate Gentiles.
The Judean consider "Israel" to be all of mankind, not simply a nation. They consider Abraham's covenant with God to pre-date Moses, and therefore, the Judean religion. It is a covenant with all mankind. The "Jews" consider only themselves to be "Chosen".
Because the labels are applied in English and European languages, Iran's Judeans are called Jewish as well, but they are not the same thing at all. Iran's Judeans are direct descendants of the Hebrews of the Bible, the Jews are simply political imposters. They are basically trying to steal the identity of the Judeans.
- Nikademus Lawman
I’m surrounded by people who call themselves Persian Jews, not Iranian Judeans. They immigrated to my neighborhood starting in 1980 and are now the predominant group. I asked a few about Iranian Judeans. None ever heard of Iranian Judeans including a couple old men who go to shul every day.
Well, there probably aren’t any Jews there. The ones pushing for constant war are more likely fraudulent Jews, JINOs, and they make the real Jews look bad.
Hannah Arendt, to name just one, predicted that.
You seem to be mixed up between several things here.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum .
Not that I disagree with the substance of your comment though the monopolistic power of entities like Google and to a vastly lesser extent Facebook begins to alarm me.
Certainly of one mind with you when it comes to Google, FB and even Twitter. Start with breaking up Google into baby Googlettes.
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960's (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same .... Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi's previous articles clearly exposes this 'eminent' historian's ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, .... you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN ... 'friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America's other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America's annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel".
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message ...... it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi's bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America's best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
The above is a clip and paste from every Jewish community publication. I’ve read and heard it all my life.
Oh I wouldn’t miss it if I could help, and do practice poetry, I enjoy your writing
Let me parry a few words with Ron, as I just noticed his comment entry!
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960's (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same .... Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi's previous articles clearly exposes this 'eminent' historian's ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, .... you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN ... 'friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America's other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America's annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel".
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message ...... it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi's bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America's best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
If you don’t mind, could you be a little more specific by providing direct quotes from the article that are good examples of these failings?
It appears the thrust of the argument you’ve put forward rests on an assessment of the net benefits that the special relationship proffers the US. And on the basis of your 700 word comment, you would like the reader to believe the scales indicate the assets outweigh the liabilities… and you provide the following as just one example of those benefits:
There’s one problem with this line of argument, though. Two distinguished Profs. (Mearsheimer & Walt) from two of the most prestigious academic institutions in the country (University of Chicago and Harvard) wrote a book (463 pages), The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, in which they devoted an entire chapter on this very topic, Ch. 2 Israel: Strategic Asset or Liability?
Here’s a summary of their assessment that shows the opposite – i.e., the liabilities outweigh the assets:
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it's peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush - two greedy, corrupt oil barons - were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called 'christ' followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
Cannot seeing anything relevant to my comment in your reply.
Also, could refuting you on some points if bothering, but can’t be bothered.
That the number of comments on this thread is to approaching or exceed 500 (exceptional for this site), is a good demonstration of Israeli swarm tactics on the ‘net.
I am a Zionist to the extent that, in political terms, I give retroactive approval to the establishment of the Mandate and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel by the Jews in Palestine.
In an earlier life I was an Evangelical Christian and believed in a Biblical justification for the existence of Israel. Most of the people that I care about are Evangelical Christians and within the context of American electoral politics I believe that they are entitled to have their preferences, including their preferences with regard to Israel, considered and I support them in their exercise of political influence.
I consider Zionism a form of nationalism.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
How disingenuous! It’s not on the same terms at all. Normal states are formed in an act of self determination by the longstanding landed population, eg. Indonesia, Timor Leste, Bangladesh. The key to their legitimacy is that the population making the declaration has had a long and unchallenged residence upon that land, which equates to de facto ownership. Accordingly, no one else suffers a disservice when they formalise their statehood and gain an internationally recognised monopoly over the use of force within their carefully demarcated patch of the Earth.
Israel is an entirely different case. It first came into existence in the minds of European Jews living in Europe and it was only later that the demographic foundation was established. It was established by coercion and forced migration, both in to and out of an arbitrary and already populated piece of land. Israel is illegitimate firstly because there was no substantial history of Jewish residence on the claimed land, secondly because the preexistent population was disserviced and remains to this day aggrieved, and thirdly because the borders have never been officially established.
So by the ‘same terms as any other people’, the Palestinians would have the absolute right to establish their own state, whereas Israel is illegitimate and the Ashkenazis should go back to wherever they originally came from.
Yes, they do, but since they haven't yet done so tells me that there is not much chance of it happening in the future.
Before requesting a source, I did an online search and came up empty.
So, this information is not yet publicly available – i.e., it must’ve been obtained from inside sources.
You (especially) know how The National Review eliminated the late-Joseph Sobran as editor for his unwanted presentation of common sense on Israel's ruinous influence on U.S foreign policy. Pathetic & shameful American "conservative" action, eh?
If American Conservative has really shown Mr. Giraldi "the door," I am confident he departs with his noble "head" held high, just like Mr. Sobran!
P.S.: I maintain hope that one day you & I can start diplomatic relations because the elite Jewish ballistic shit is even "hitting the (U.R. comment section) fan."
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960's (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same .... Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi's previous articles clearly exposes this 'eminent' historian's ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, .... you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN ... 'friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America's other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America's annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel".
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message ...... it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi's bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America's best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
Son, you are way in over your head here.
You need to go back and continue reading The Times.
Let me parry a few words with Ron, as I just noticed his comment entry!
Let me parry a few words with Ron
Good. His spurious straw man of “no Jews here” was a riot.
Thus, once again, If-it endorses murder, theft, lying, terrorism, ethnic cleansing, and apartheid.
"...on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state." Well actually, Israel's terms are quite different from other people/states. Certainly nothing like ours.
Certainly nothing like ours.
Who is this “ours” of which you speak, Kemosabe?
This is an accurate translation of that article:
In fact, it sounds like he's "threatening" to defend himself against a threat. Where are those bases and fleets located, again? Yup, ominous for sure.
Hey weasel speaker, care to show me where I have used the term “self-hating Jew”?
Whether or not Zionism is “good for the Jews”, it does serve a valuable purpose for Americans. If you don’t want pesky Jews here, then the Middle East is the most logical and convenient dumping ground for them, isn’t it? Even the early National Socialists thought as much.
I’ll worry about Arab claims when they return Egypt to Christendom. It took centuries to get Iberia back, if you remember.
Anyway, my comment stands and it's apparent to me that you already have it all figured out.
BS
Israel was dismantled in 70 AD, it's peoples disbursed throughout the nations. It did not become a country until 1948 after the evils of WWII.
Dick Cheney and Bush - two greedy, corrupt oil barons - were the minds behind war with Iraq (it should have been Pakistan, where the real President found Osama Bin Laden living). Iraq was all about OIL, the stealing of it and the Bush daddy-issue punishment of Saddam Hussein. I still tsk to myself when I hear so-called 'christ' followers complaining about the jews, when Jesus was a traditional jew. The blood of Christ is the blood of a Jewish man. Ignorance to this fact, laid out in the Bible about his ancestry (of the tribe of Benjamin), makes neocons look very foolish indeed. The jews are not the ones behind going to wars. Big corporations who stand to gain billions are. The military industrial complex is. That includes corrupt war-criminal Dick Cheney and his ilk.
… and, of course, that is your one and only comment on this site (I checked ).
Even your u-name is appearing to be machine-generated.
Don’t worry, many other conscious posters here, they are also to seeing it with your colleagues.
I hear them coming, Ron. They’re on their way!
The difference between you and me, Dad, is that for me as an Israeli it has been ‘living history’ for the past 50 years, through wars of survival, creating a technological and agricultural powerhouse and achieving the first threads of piece with our neighbours, while for you and the other armchair warriors, it is sadly an expression of a distorted lust gene in your DNA.
My genes must be on open display.
Weasel speaker only recently accused me of having bloodlust.
(or would, if he hadn't rotted away his face through his out-of-control chomping on cigars. Shrink, shrink thyself.)
Israel is an entirely different case. It first came into existence in the minds of European Jews living in Europe and it was only later that the demographic foundation was established. It was established by coercion and forced migration, both in to and out of an arbitrary and already populated piece of land. Israel is illegitimate firstly because there was no substantial history of Jewish residence on the claimed land, secondly because the preexistent population was disserviced and remains to this day aggrieved, and thirdly because the borders have never been officially established.
So by the 'same terms as any other people', the Palestinians would have the absolute right to establish their own state, whereas Israel is illegitimate and the Ashkenazis should go back to wherever they originally came from.
One wonders why “Jews” or anyone else (except Palestinians) need a state in Palestine when they have all the Zion anyone could ever ask for right here, in the US of A.
Anyway, the discussion would undoubtedly benefit from a definition of terms. Here’s a reason why.
I see a lot of appeal in having a back-up state. I have envisaged everyone having a back-up state. I am certain that it would reduce anxiety and allow us all to be BFFs.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum .
Not that I disagree with the substance of your comment though the monopolistic power of entities like Google and to a vastly lesser extent Facebook begins to alarm me.
Yes, thanks for clarifying what might easily be construed as both being one and the same. My object was to provide instances of censorship; Edict Compiègne the Index Librorum Prohibitorum being two such. Of course the second is more about the restriction of certain intellectual heresies – which I now discover included the Principia! – and lascivious titles, whereas the first was aimed at extirpating Protestantism in France accompanied by the mild persuasion of potential decapitation.
Certainly of one mind with you when it comes to Google, FB and even Twitter. Start with breaking up Google into baby Googlettes.
Ominous? Sounds a bit hyperbolic bordering on hysterical to me.
In fact, it sounds like he’s “threatening” to defend himself against a threat. Where are those bases and fleets located, again? Yup, ominous for sure.
Peace.
Also, could refuting you on some points if bothering, but can't be bothered.
That the number of comments on this thread is to approaching or exceed 500 (exceptional for this site), is a good demonstration of Israeli swarm tactics on the 'net.
What do you think? Are they Hasbara / Zionists or are they newly redpilled MSM readers who can’t take the reality shake?
A thousand replies is very unusual for an article on this site.
Why do you think that may be?
In any case, you posting as Anomymous, by alance of probaiity, sure, you are likely Zionist Jew or what you are calliing Hasbara.
I‘ll concede that it could be, but fake or not, it seems to be a reasonably accurate description of America’s current peril.
I have been searching in vain for any speeches given by McCarthy in late ’56. Either that material has all been scrubbed, or someone has made up out of whole cloth the entire story of this alleged speech by Joe McCarthy, and Cornwallis’s warning from Legions of Satan by Jonathan Williams, who indeed served under Washington at Yorktown, and who was an author, but no trace of the book.
Over at David Icke forum, one commenter gave an Amazon link (dead) for Legions of Satan, while others cite sources claiming the book had been removed from the Library of Congress, once was in 50 libraries, but none now, etc…
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=98265
When I last visited this issue several years ago, I recall finding more on it, but many of the links seem to have gone dead. As it stands, I can’t find much to support the idea that McCarthy even gave such a speech
Pending further research, I will retract my griping and grumbling about the [more] button, and acknowledge that Unz.com may have reasonable justification to hide the alleged speech.
No proof that this book ever existed. Perhaps somebody could research how and where was it first mentioned on internet. Imo, it i s safe to assume it is hoax at this point.
It is easy to make a hoax preying on desire for confirmation bias like when you expressed it by " it seems to be a reasonably accurate description of America’s current peril." The same argument as you as made by the holocaust scholar and propagandists Deborah Lipstadt . When several books about holocaust like one by Benjamin Wilkomirski or by Misha Defonseca were proven to be confabulations and hoaxes Deborah Lipstadt stated that it was not a problem because the books describe reality of Holcaust well and thus could be used for educational (propaganda and indoctrination) purposes.
It is possible that some easy to expose anti-semitic hoaxes are created on purpose to make allegations that some legitimate records are also a hoax. I am thinking of Protocols of Elders of Zion which are being tried to be dismissed as hoax for last 100 years with a mixed success.
“Donor anger was one reason for Republicans’ zeal to take on healthcare repeal again. Carl Hulse writes. Page A12” NY Times 9/23/17 Front Page under Money Woes
It is obvious NY Times car attribute the blame, raise the possibility, and put it out on the front page . It can when it wants indicate how dark money underwrites polices how donor can sabotage or strengthen certain positions and polices.
So why It cant say same to the dark donor money which has been referred to by
President Obama
Ex Sec of NATO ( W. Clarke )
And by other in relation to the shaping of American polices by Israel to Iran despite misgivings , despite clear danger, despite negative effects on America?
This shows and there are thousands other littering American history from 1917 which also show the harmful effects of the influences exerted (Zionist) through donor money ,bribes, and pressure . It also shows dereliction of duties on the part of NYT.
This works well for the Zionists who would claim ” Where did you hear it? Where did you see it ?. I don’t believe Nobody should pay attention to anti Semitic tropes. ” Then add ” America is seeing resurgence of antisemitism”
Since chi stands for “Christ” and not “Chris” the proper term should be Xian and not Xtian, following the analogy of Xmas.
https://972mag.com/netanyahus-israel-is-a-cauldron-waiting-for-the-next-explosion/129815/
thanks for the quote and the link to James Zogby’s article in 972 Mag.
Unfortunately, Zogby is radically mistaken in stating that the July, 1979 Jonathan Conference marked “the birth of the neoconservative movement.” Neoconservatism was born in cribs and grew up in Trotskyite playpens set up in the corners of free colleges in New York City in the early post-war years.
The Jonathan Conference is more appropriately identified as the birth — or the blueprint — of the Global War on Terror.
Nor was the focus of that conference, its participants, or the movement it kicked off “hostility to the Soviet Union” and its “liberation movements.” The focus was terrorism. Benjamin Netanyahu edited the book that collected the speeches delivered at the conference. https://books.google.com/books/about/International_Terrorism.html?id=s8Pm37gg5JkC
An opening note to the book states:
There were 48 speeches in the seven sessions of the conference; 26 of the speeches used the word “terror” in its title; only one of the speeches mentioned the Soviets: Brian Crozier’s presentation was titled “Soviet Support for International Terrorism.”
This comment/correction is not just a pedantic quibble with Zogby’s misstatements. The Jonathan Institute, the raid at Entebbe that gave rise to it, and this conference and the memes, vocabulary, frames, personalities and (already well-established) ideologies represented at it, are crucial for understanding the US – Israel relationship and the wars that have been fought as a consequence of that relationship.
The difference between you and me, Dad, is that for me as an Israeli it has been 'living history' for the past 50 years, through wars of survival, creating a technological and agricultural powerhouse and achieving the first threads of piece with our neighbours, while for you and the other armchair warriors, it is sadly an expression of a distorted lust gene in your DNA.
an expression of a distorted lust gene in your DNA
My genes must be on open display.
Weasel speaker only recently accused me of having bloodlust.
One wonders why “Jews” or anyone else (except Palestinians) need a state in Palestine
I see a lot of appeal in having a back-up state. I have envisaged everyone having a back-up state. I am certain that it would reduce anxiety and allow us all to be BFFs.
Would back-up states be established on the basis of ethnicity -- like Germans hoped to do; on basis of religion, like Tibet?
What if the same ethnic group has differing religious allegiances, like the Irish -- would there be a separate state for Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants?How would the British sort themselves into back-up states? Monarchists HERE, former colonials THERE, Immigrants somewhere else?Would there be roads to connect the various back-up states? Who would pay for them? Who could use them? What system of laws would apply in back-up states?Wasn't Robert E Lee, in effect, fighting for the right to have a back-up state?
Are you saying his effort should have been honored?What would happen to people already settled on a territory designated for a back-up state for some different group -- should that native group be required to move out? Where would they go? Do they get a back-up state?
The difference between you and me, Dad, is that for me as an Israeli it has been 'living history' for the past 50 years, through wars of survival, creating a technological and agricultural powerhouse and achieving the first threads of piece with our neighbours, while for you and the other armchair warriors, it is sadly an expression of a distorted lust gene in your DNA.
Freud smiles.
(or would, if he hadn’t rotted away his face through his out-of-control chomping on cigars. Shrink, shrink thyself.)
Got it. Thx.
Israel is an entirely different case. It first came into existence in the minds of European Jews living in Europe and it was only later that the demographic foundation was established. It was established by coercion and forced migration, both in to and out of an arbitrary and already populated piece of land. Israel is illegitimate firstly because there was no substantial history of Jewish residence on the claimed land, secondly because the preexistent population was disserviced and remains to this day aggrieved, and thirdly because the borders have never been officially established.
So by the 'same terms as any other people', the Palestinians would have the absolute right to establish their own state, whereas Israel is illegitimate and the Ashkenazis should go back to wherever they originally came from.
So by the ‘same terms as any other people’, the Palestinians would have the absolute right to establish their own state
Yes, they do, but since they haven’t yet done so tells me that there is not much chance of it happening in the future.
You seem to agree with my assertion that Israel wasn't established on the same terms as other states so, to return to the original quote, do you still give approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state, even if it is not 'on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state' ?
If so, why do you consider this to be a special case?
An opening note to the book states:There were 48 speeches in the seven sessions of the conference; 26 of the speeches used the word "terror" in its title; only one of the speeches mentioned the Soviets: Brian Crozier's presentation was titled "Soviet Support for International Terrorism." This comment/correction is not just a pedantic quibble with Zogby's misstatements. The Jonathan Institute, the raid at Entebbe that gave rise to it, and this conference and the memes, vocabulary, frames, personalities and (already well-established) ideologies represented at it, are crucial for understanding the US - Israel relationship and the wars that have been fought as a consequence of that relationship.
I appreciate the information.
George,
You (especially) know how The National Review eliminated the late-Joseph Sobran as editor for his unwanted presentation of common sense on Israel’s ruinous influence on U.S foreign policy. Pathetic & shameful American “conservative” action, eh?
If American Conservative has really shown Mr. Giraldi “the door,” I am confident he departs with his noble “head” held high, just like Mr. Sobran!
P.S.: I maintain hope that one day you & I can start diplomatic relations because the elite Jewish ballistic shit is even “hitting the (U.R. comment section) fan.”
Geo, nor any other critic of some of the things Israel does, has never condemned (as far as I'm aware) all Jews everywhere.
nor are the millions of Jewish minions guilty of a crime. Rather it's the support for evil their leaders promote that is the problem. The tacit support, without which, the Palestinian people would not be getting genocided.
You see iffen, were it not for the tacit support from the world's sanguine Jews for so many evils, (like the serial wars for Israel), perhaps some of these wars and evil might be brought to heal, no?
Imagine if every Jew in NYC demanded a real investigation into the murderous perpetrators of 9/11?!
But that won't happen, will it iffen, because just as with the wiz and other Jews here at Unz, ;) there is an obvious kneejerk reflex to obfuscate what happened on 9/11, (the false flag pretext to all these wars for Israel), and rationalize and dissemble, because for the American people to ever really understand what happened on 9/11, would not be 'good for the Jews', you see?
Did you know that the mantra that most Jews grow up with is that they must always consider in their heart of hearts, at all times, the motivation: 'what is good for the Jews' ?
So what that does is it creates a meme in their psyches that puts Jewish interests, (however they're perceived) over the interests of the people among whom they live, you see?
And this can cause problems, when those interests conflict (which at times they must).
Just consider 9/11, and the fact that the Israeli government knew it was going to happen, but didn't warn Americans in peril of being horrifically slaughtered in fireballs of hell.
Even Jews died in those flames, and yet Bibi and the government of Israel were happy about it... Bibi even blurting out that 9/11 was "very good", and that it would create sympathy for Israel.
Now there are and have been some Jews who've pointed out all of this treachery, like the Jewish Army War College Prof. Alan Sabrosky and others, but the problem isn't Jewish individuals, but rather the collective evils that are a consequence of concentrated Jewish power.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/03/04/opinion/4wed1WEB/4wed1WEB-master1050.jpg
just look at those sniveling sycophants gushing over that man who not only cheered the deaths of Americans on 9/11, but also knew they were going to be killed and let it happen, because doing so was considered 'good for Israel'.
It isn't your Jewish dentist who's to blame for this, but the treasonous congress-critters who slavishly worship the Jewish media and financial power to make or break their re-election ambitions, you see?
So it isn't the average Jew on the street who are the problem, except insofar as they're unwilling to hold the Jewish criminals to account.
Somehow I'm reminded of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who was exalted to the head of the DNC by president Obama, only to return the favor by going to watch her patron be humiliated in his own capital house by Bibi, who mocked the president, and had in attendance a Jewish head of the DNC, who decided to symbolically repudiate the leader of her party, to stand in fealty with the man who mocked the deaths of so many Americans on 9/11, and who came to Washington to demand that more Americans die in contrived wars to benefit Israel.
whew
I feel a little off whenever I discuss such iniquity and evil, and point these things out to an insouciant world.
https://cdn.lrb.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jersey-cow.png
For all that you have said —to great length—I do not believe you have distinguished the typical “American Jews as a class and its (self-appointed!) leadership.”
I assume we will be limiting the leadership in question to geographical limits of the United States. Foreign entities may influence actions but leadership is submitted to be a different element.
Perhaps AIPAC or rabbi/religious groups may be mentioned, but I would suggest Wall Street bankers as having a dominate influence in the manifestation of social changes in our society. In my opinion, they have induced the United States into every military conflict—either for their economic gain, to destroy imagined religious infidels, or to provide cover for their nefarious acts—for 120 years. Their use of the CIA to assist and initiate the military actions has been documented by Perkins, Blum, Kinzer, Talbot, Valentine, Prouty, and others. Their impoverishment of nations as a deliberate agenda for decades has been documented by Chossudovsky and is prominently visible in Greece.
They are alleged to surreptitiously receive trillions of dollars from the United States using the Rothschild Ponzi scheme but unfortunately the effort has failed to gain traction. The scheme appears to be an obvious and inescapable embezzlement. Ref. https://www.scribd.com/document355085824 . Embezzlement by Federal Reserve–document 355085824 The fraudulent National debt developed by this scheme has been projected to impoverish the United States in the same manner as in Greece but WS successfully avoids public identification of their scheme.
It is submitted the funding, and leadership, of the Zionist movement and the establishment of Israel is in Manhattan.
I’m really much too busy with my software work to waste any time on all this nonsense, any more than I would be willing to argue with some kindergarteners who dispute whether the clear sky is really blue. But I got a little curious about the dozen or more MSM stories regarding the controversy, and glancing at a few of them that topped the list at Google News, I noticed something quite telling.
Offhand I’d say that Valerie Plame is probably about the most famous undercover CIA agent in American history, and during the 2000s her name was regularly on the the front pages. Even this past year, I’ve seen her occasionally mentioned in my morning NYT/WSJ. And we have someone of such reasonable prominence sending out an utterly explosive Tweet with the headline “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars,” then backtracking an hour or two later under massive pressure and apologizing. That certainly seems like a pretty major story.
Yet the coverage was almost entirely confined to second- or mostly third-rank media outlets, with virtually no significant journalists or foreign policy figures seeming to provide any critical quotes and almost all the shrill attacks I saw coming from people whom I’d never heard of. The only prominent public critics I noticed were Alan Dershowitz and Marc Levin, both especially fanatic Jewish Neocons. And not a single word got into the NYT, the WSJ, or any other top-tier mainstream news outlet.
The obvious explanation of such remarkable silence is that roughly 100% of all the serious foreign policy experts and journalists know perfectly well that Plame and Giraldi were absolutely correct, and don’t want to have all their friends laughing at them if they publicly claim otherwise. Perhaps they’re also a bit concerned about putting statements on the record that might place them in front of a hangman’s noose a bit down the road.
Anyway, I need to return to my software and let all of you get back to arguing about whether or not the sky is blue…
Optics matter.
The 'dumb blonde' who excelled as a spy - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/30/usa.helenasmith
"Blue" is a psycho-physical phenomenon and the perception of it depends on many variables, so the claim is no more cut and dried than the claim in the title of PG's otherwise excellent article. In other words, what seems obvious is probably better described as simplistic.
I see a lot of appeal in having a back-up state. I have envisaged everyone having a back-up state. I am certain that it would reduce anxiety and allow us all to be BFFs.
How would that work?
Would back-up states be established on the basis of ethnicity — like Germans hoped to do; on basis of religion, like Tibet?
What if the same ethnic group has differing religious allegiances, like the Irish — would there be a separate state for Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants?
How would the British sort themselves into back-up states? Monarchists HERE, former colonials THERE, Immigrants somewhere else?
Would there be roads to connect the various back-up states? Who would pay for them? Who could use them?
What system of laws would apply in back-up states?
Wasn’t Robert E Lee, in effect, fighting for the right to have a back-up state?
Are you saying his effort should have been honored?
What would happen to people already settled on a territory designated for a back-up state for some different group — should that native group be required to move out? Where would they go? Do they get a back-up state?
Same as it works for the primary state.
Choose up sides and fight it out.
I have been searching in vain for any speeches given by McCarthy in late '56. Either that material has all been scrubbed, or someone has made up out of whole cloth the entire story of this alleged speech by Joe McCarthy, and Cornwallis's warning from Legions of Satan by Jonathan Williams, who indeed served under Washington at Yorktown, and who was an author, but no trace of the book.
Over at David Icke forum, one commenter gave an Amazon link (dead) for Legions of Satan, while others cite sources claiming the book had been removed from the Library of Congress, once was in 50 libraries, but none now, etc...
https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=98265
When I last visited this issue several years ago, I recall finding more on it, but many of the links seem to have gone dead. As it stands, I can't find much to support the idea that McCarthy even gave such a speech
Pending further research, I will retract my griping and grumbling about the [more] button, and acknowledge that Unz.com may have reasonable justification to hide the alleged speech.
Legions of Satan by Jonathan Williams
No proof that this book ever existed. Perhaps somebody could research how and where was it first mentioned on internet. Imo, it i s safe to assume it is hoax at this point.
It is easy to make a hoax preying on desire for confirmation bias like when you expressed it by ” it seems to be a reasonably accurate description of America’s current peril.” The same argument as you as made by the holocaust scholar and propagandists Deborah Lipstadt . When several books about holocaust like one by Benjamin Wilkomirski or by Misha Defonseca were proven to be confabulations and hoaxes Deborah Lipstadt stated that it was not a problem because the books describe reality of Holcaust well and thus could be used for educational (propaganda and indoctrination) purposes.
It is possible that some easy to expose anti-semitic hoaxes are created on purpose to make allegations that some legitimate records are also a hoax. I am thinking of Protocols of Elders of Zion which are being tried to be dismissed as hoax for last 100 years with a mixed success.
“Pointing out Jewish-owned media’s push for degraded behavior and social norms while they demand the opposite for their own isn’t Hitler, it’s a demand for accountability…”
Excellent.
Speaking of weasel speakers, you first show me where I explicitly stated you used the term “self-hating Jew”?
Now, what I’ve been implying in a few of my comments is based on the principle of something called “logical inference.”
I have been attacked by yourself and your Most Beloved Zionist Brethren on repeated occasions for merely pointing out the nefarious deeds of The Lobby. Not once in my over 2,000 comments have I even remotely incited hatred towards Jews. Yet, your MBZB took the liberty of accusing me of being, and I quote, “a Jew hater,” while you yourself chose to go with the somewhat less offensive terms of “pellet dropper” or “modern day Nazi.”
So, here’s the “logical inference” part, pay attention.
If you or your MBZB are prepared to label me a “Jew hater” for shining a light on the machinations of The Lobby, doesn’t it stand to reason you would do the same to someone who is Jewish, if they did the same thing. And since it is awkward to call a Jew a “Jew hater,” wouldn’t it be more likely to call them a “self-hating Jew”?
Even a blurry-eyed weasel should be able to see the difference, no?
Ditto
You (especially) know how The National Review eliminated the late-Joseph Sobran as editor for his unwanted presentation of common sense on Israel's ruinous influence on U.S foreign policy. Pathetic & shameful American "conservative" action, eh?
If American Conservative has really shown Mr. Giraldi "the door," I am confident he departs with his noble "head" held high, just like Mr. Sobran!
P.S.: I maintain hope that one day you & I can start diplomatic relations because the elite Jewish ballistic shit is even "hitting the (U.R. comment section) fan."
I agree 100%, Chuck.
go hide behind your Christian girlfriend
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speaking of the tough-talking moral high-grounders on this forum:
What's the difference between Phil Giraldi and Peter AUS?
Giraldi puts his background, his work experience, his analysis, and his name on the line.
Peter AUS? He's hiding out down under
Peter is very protective of his/her background & his/her name:
http://www.unz.com/tsaker/a-letter-to-my-american-friends/#comment-2015904Who are you afraid will "f*&k you up," Peter?
Phil Giraldi?
Ron Unz?
Sam Shama has threatened to dox folks on this forum. It's not unlikely Shama has connections that could implement his threats.
ADL runs a business based on exposing and intimidating people whose ideas and thoughts fail to comply with their ordained dogma.
Mark Zuckerberg just said his Facebook money machine isBut thank goodness,https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/hacking-of-america/facebook-turn-over-russia-linked-ads-congress-n803581
Whew. That's a relief.
With Zuckerberg on the case, at least our elections will be secure and free of influence from foreign sources.
Oh, but did Z guarantee the privacy of participants on Facebook?
If he's "turning over" some advertisers, allegedly identified as linked to Russians, that means he can identify and segregate FB participants, and is willing -- even eager -- to reveal their identities, if conditions suit Zuckerberg's interests.
How secure does that make you feel, Peter AUS?
Good points.
Just the opposite. I came to believe years ago that if you can’t identify the product on the internet, YOU are the product.
Scott McNealy said it close to 20 years ago.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2013/07/31/have-no-privacy-get-over-it.html
It is true that I was fired yesterday morning over this article.
Sorry to hear about your victimhood from the Zionist Jewish Lobby. Perhaps you and/or Mr. Unz could establish a Patreon page to receive donations from us that value Alternative Media.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/russia-is-foreign-propaganda-even-effective/comment-page-1/#comment-8329768
The Russians can dish it out, but don't expect Americans to swallow everything.
How can one take an article like this serious when the nation that works 24/7 to influence our media, churches and even school systems is not mentioned.Look at what happened when McGraw Hill published school textbooks showing before and after maps of Palestine, they were hit with the anti-Semitism tag and pulled all those books off the shelf. We are continuously editing history to placate the Jews.
Textbooks destroyed
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/08/mcgraw-hill-education-withdraws-textbook-maps-viewed-anti-israel
McGraw-Hill destroys textbook to placate pro-Israel bloggers
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-placate-pro-israel-bloggers
McGraw-Hill Destroys Textbook After Complaints That Maps Are Anti-Israel
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-after-complaints-maps-are-anti-israel
You (especially) know how The National Review eliminated the late-Joseph Sobran as editor for his unwanted presentation of common sense on Israel's ruinous influence on U.S foreign policy. Pathetic & shameful American "conservative" action, eh?
If American Conservative has really shown Mr. Giraldi "the door," I am confident he departs with his noble "head" held high, just like Mr. Sobran!
P.S.: I maintain hope that one day you & I can start diplomatic relations because the elite Jewish ballistic shit is even "hitting the (U.R. comment section) fan."
It is true Chuck – I was fired yesterday morning!
The American Conservative should be ashamed of such "purge" because in reverse they have memorialized your Chosen Option to freely convey unwanted facts.
Ideally Pat Buchanan will nobly address the critical matter.
Lastly, I hesitate to fully accept that Valerie Plame is NOT an actress starring in CIA / Mossad black psy-ops. For me, the Zio sky is not so "blue."
Who benefits? Maybe agents who share similar passion for truth telling.
Thank you from the most inner part of my heart!
Selah.
http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/ (not to be confused with Center for the National Interest, cftni )CNI was founded by Congressman Paul Findley and Congressman Paul “Pete” McCloskey.CNI's Mission:--In the last few days several people who had participated on Flynt and Hillary Leverett's blog, http://goingtotehran.com (formerly RaceforIran) asked about the Leveretts and expressed the wish that they could return to this rambunctious marketplace of ideas. goingtotehran.com has been inactive for several years.The Leveretts' postings were of the very highest calibre -- Flynt heads a department of international affairs at Penn State, and Hillary has taught at Yale and American Universities. Both were members of George Bush's national security team.Ron, Phil, others -- what would it take, or how would one go about enticing the Leveretts to contribute to Unz.com, or to re-activate their blog?
I only went to read articles there when one of your articles was linked from antiwar.com; otherwise I found TAC pretty boring. Anything else of interest which they publish appears on Unz and other sites anyway.
Still I am sorry for you and for us all, because we may not be able to stop the war on Iran which our friends are cooking up. Maybe, your "ex-"fellow agent, Ms Palme, as Ron is alluding to, just picked up and dropped your article in order to bring attention to it, with the expected result.
I hope you'll fill us in on all the beck channel communication which you will have had regarding this article.
Thank you for everything you do and good luck!
(consider crowd funding or publishing a book !)
After article was rejected and publishers yawned, Walt and Mearsheimer dropped ‘The Israel Lobby’ in 2005
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/powerful-mearsheimer-publishing/
Publication ruined both men’s chances to serve in government or in university administration. Mearsheimer:
I had no interest whatsoever in a government position. But I did think that when we wrote the piece, that it would mean that we would never get a high level government position. Even medium level government position. It would also make it almost impossible for us to get any meaningful administrative job in the academic world.
Mearsheimer was then 59 years old and in Chicago. But Steve Walt was a sprightly 50 and on I-95, on the Harvard springboard to presidential elbows. The book forever changed his horizon:
I was academic dean in the Kennedy School. I think it’s fair to say that both universities did stand by us in the sense that they didn’t put any formal censure on us. There were various ways of what you might call informal marginalization at least for a while, because the leaderships in both universities were very nervous about the fallout. Universities don’t really like controversy very much.
I did understand that this was probably going to eliminate any possibility of government service in my case, which is something I do regret, because it’s something I would have appreciated, had that opportunity presented itself at some point down the road.
Walt went on to say that they had to do it. “If we weren’t willing to do that, then hardly anybody else would be. We couldn’t lose our jobs. We didn’t necessarily need government employment to pay the mortgage.”
The two men actually gave up on the article and book years before it was published because doors kept closing. Here is some of the history.
Mearsheimer spoke about the idea first at the American Political Science Association meetings in Boston in 2002; and a friend said the Atlantic wanted to commission an article on that very subject. The Atlantic magazine assigned Walt and Mearsheimer in 2002. Then it got cold feet and killed the piece in early 2005. At that time, Walt said, the two scholars thought that no other outlet in the United States would publish it, but they could flesh it out as a “short book,” so they consulted a “number” of publishers and a couple of literary agents.
We got what you would call polite interest but nothing you could call enthusiasm. At one point we basically decided to drop the project entirely.
Jesus H. Christ.
After that, though, an editor who had a copy of the piece showed it to a scholar at UCLA who reached out to Mearsheimer and said the London Review of Books might be interested. The LRB version was eventually published in March 2006, and “provoked an immediate firestorm,” Walt said.
Ironically once it provoked that firestorm, suddenly publishers and literary agents recognized that there was a product people were interested in and suddenly they were contacting us and offering us book contracts.
Mearshimer said it was the internet that published that piece as much as the LRB:
The internet was indispensable for making this article available to people all over the world. If this had been published in the London Review of Books in 1985 or 1990 when there was no internet, hardly anybody would have taken notice. But in the age of the internet, this article just ricocheted all over the world very, very quickly.
Rashid Khalidi at Columbia University told me that the morning after the piece had hit the internet, 14 different people had sent him a link for the piece. It was such a big bombshell.
Now here is the sad conclusion. Mearsheimer:
I don’t think we– or anyone else– has had much influence on policy. I think the lobby is still as powerful as ever. It’s now more out in the open, and that’s not necessarily a good thing for a lobby, but it’s still remarkably effective. This is why you saw all those Republicans falling all over themselves in the 2016 Republican primaries to say how devoted they were to Israel, because they understand that you don’t want to cross the lobby.
Or to put that another way: This interview was not on 60 Minutes, MSNBC, or the New York Times!
In fact, it sounds like he's "threatening" to defend himself against a threat. Where are those bases and fleets located, again? Yup, ominous for sure.
This is normative discourse living in the time of Pax America. Try stating on the MSM that Iraqi soldiers had a moral right to fire back at our invading US soldiers (based on the fact that, yeah – Iraq was actually telling the truth) – it was completely unacceptable. You must submit to be invaded and if you dare to claim to defend yourself (and actually be capable of it), well, you just crossed a red line.
Peace.
But there is a reason we call it the ZUSA, and that because we're also supposed to consider ourselves as 'exceptional, just like the Zionist Jews do, as they murder and steal other people's land.
and to point out that it's wrong to murder people and steal their land, is now considered 'anti-Semitic, and heresy, and you can be fired from your job at the kosher TAC.
it's really amazing, and like Mr. Unz points out, we're all supposed to look at the sky and remark at how pretty the color green is, and how blue are all the trees, and how Iraqis have no right to defend their nation from criminal and unjustified attack.
Peace
At last someone tells it like it is. It ought to be that high government appointments rule out anyone carrying dual citizenship. That makes sense, doesn’t it? Instead, Israel controls American Middle East policy completely. The smug pic of Kristol says it all. “We’re in control and there’s nothing you can do about it!”
Like Sharon said something to the effect that the Jewish people control America and Americans know it!
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
Ron,
What you did is known as a “drive-by”. Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I’ll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much “victim talk” – many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn’t especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark “maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built” etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn’t be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB’s wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O’Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn’t been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
1, Either you have free speech or not. Or, better, who gets the power over what gets filtered. As YOU said:"Power has a way of corrupting men."
2. As above.
3.Death of many Jews during WW2 has been used as a political, social engineering, even spiritual weapon and increasingly so. THAT is the problem.
4.Looks as a witch hunt. Related to 1,2 and 3.
5.Again, mostly agree.
Oh my. And from there to THINK OF THE HOLOCAUST!!!
800 words of manipulative self-dealing bullshit. Devoid entirely of evidence and Reason.
And so utterly devoid of self-awareness that you can’t see that YOU are the “stereotypical Jew” who gives rise and cause to Jew-haters. Meanwhile the honest Jews who seek facts and employ objective Reason like Ron Unz have their voices drowned out by your incessant and boring bullshit.
'targeted' how?
What are you implying?
Oh my, the arrogant horror, the didactic horror!
(sigh)
And here's hoping Ron continues a Chief of U.R
Staff car "drive by" of comment # 866!
Selah majoritarianism 6 million blushing fiend.
I am a Zionist to the extent that, in political terms, I give retroactive approval to the establishment of the Mandate and the subsequent establishment of the State of Israel by the Jews in Palestine.
In an earlier life I was an Evangelical Christian and believed in a Biblical justification for the existence of Israel. Most of the people that I care about are Evangelical Christians and within the context of American electoral politics I believe that they are entitled to have their preferences, including their preferences with regard to Israel, considered and I support them in their exercise of political influence.
I consider Zionism a form of nationalism.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
I am a Zionist if Zionist means that one gives approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state.
Are you capable of switching gears – of changing your opinion? In the fullness of time, what was created by Zionism turned out to be very ugly.
Zionism is a racist fascist ideology – why does it have a right to a slice of our earth? Could not some other Jewish ideology establish Israel?
It is 100% for sure that Zionism has been a negative force in this world. Zionism continues to do bad things.
Why are you still a Zionist?
Think Peace — Art
Shit, I’m sorry to hear that, Philip.
"The American Conservative adheres to old and proven principles that are often discarded or paid lip service in the pursuit of power."
The American Conservative adheres to the old and proven principles of opportunism to secure their paycheck and equal standing among the ziocon moral and intellectual pigmies.
Offhand I'd say that Valerie Plame is probably about the most famous undercover CIA agent in American history, and during the 2000s her name was regularly on the the front pages. Even this past year, I've seen her occasionally mentioned in my morning NYT/WSJ. And we have someone of such reasonable prominence sending out an utterly explosive Tweet with the headline "America's Jews Are Driving America's Wars," then backtracking an hour or two later under massive pressure and apologizing. That certainly seems like a pretty major story.
Yet the coverage was almost entirely confined to second- or mostly third-rank media outlets, with virtually no significant journalists or foreign policy figures seeming to provide any critical quotes and almost all the shrill attacks I saw coming from people whom I'd never heard of. The only prominent public critics I noticed were Alan Dershowitz and Marc Levin, both especially fanatic Jewish Neocons. And not a single word got into the NYT, the WSJ, or any other top-tier mainstream news outlet.
The obvious explanation of such remarkable silence is that roughly 100% of all the serious foreign policy experts and journalists know perfectly well that Plame and Giraldi were absolutely correct, and don't want to have all their friends laughing at them if they publicly claim otherwise. Perhaps they're also a bit concerned about putting statements on the record that might place them in front of a hangman's noose a bit down the road.
Anyway, I need to return to my software and let all of you get back to arguing about whether or not the sky is blue...
I have not read the comments, so I don’t know if this was brought up already…
I think the reason why she is so famous and why the establishment is so nervous about this is and her, is pretty obvious. She is extremely easy on the eyes.
Optics matter.
The ‘dumb blonde’ who excelled as a spy
– https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/30/usa.helenasmith
Why The Best Spies in Mossad And The CIA Are Women- https://www.forbes.com/sites/crossingborders/2012/09/30/why-the-best-spies-in-mossad-and-the-cia-are-women/#61bb04222bb0
I noticed how elegantly and skillfully Ms. Plame handled this controversy, like a true pro, with no ego, etc.
Apologies all. There is so much there that’s problematic AF and I should have recognized it sooner. Thank you for pushing me to look again.
I’m not perfect and make mistakes. This was a doozy. All I can do is admit them, try to be better, and read more thoroughly next time. Ugh.
https://twitter.com/ValeriePlame/status/910914285311754240
Peace.
Hey, Talha. Just wanna give you props for making a very good thought-provoking political comment.
Peace.
Mr. Giraldi,
The American Conservative should be ashamed of such “purge” because in reverse they have memorialized your Chosen Option to freely convey unwanted facts.
Ideally Pat Buchanan will nobly address the critical matter.
Lastly, I hesitate to fully accept that Valerie Plame is NOT an actress starring in CIA / Mossad black psy-ops. For me, the Zio sky is not so “blue.”
Who benefits? Maybe agents who share similar passion for truth telling.
Thank you from the most inner part of my heart!
Selah.
It's a conversation we all need to have.
for a people to be used so ignobly as the Americans (and others) have been and are being- to mass-murder innocents and rain down horrors upon the people of this planet is an enormity of staggering consequence, and for which there will be a heavy price to pay. Which no doubt will be born by more innocents who had nothing to do with any of these devil's wars.
we need to point the finger at the malignant scum who're foisting these wars; Jews and Gentiles alike. But the pall over any discussion of Jewish involvement per se, needs to end.
Kristol, Kagan, Krauthammer, and all the other sinister little shills for death and rapine must be made to answer for their crimes. And their Shabbos goys in congress too.
Cheers
A cursory check reveals that poster S.S. used the word “ominous”.
I read the article as intended for internal consumption. Like the CP of China, the IR of Iran can not afford damage to its perceived prestige by the subject nation.
Iran has already capitulated by being the subject of “additional” protocols no other nation has to suffer under IAEA, the intrusions of JCPOA, enduring a “black market” economic regime, entering into one sided deals, and soon, becoming a protectrate of Russia.
Right now, the US mafia is signalling to IR mafia that they require even more sweetheart deals. EU mafia plays along and Russian mafia has declared it will “defend the document”. LOL.
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
Agree.
Now, I am sure that a LOT will reply to the rest of your questions with gusto.
My take, briefly:
1, Either you have free speech or not. Or, better, who gets the power over what gets filtered. As YOU said:”Power has a way of corrupting men.”
2. As above.
3.Death of many Jews during WW2 has been used as a political, social engineering, even spiritual weapon and increasingly so. THAT is the problem.
4.Looks as a witch hunt. Related to 1,2 and 3.
5.Again, mostly agree.
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960's (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same .... Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi's previous articles clearly exposes this 'eminent' historian's ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, .... you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN ... 'friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America's other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America's annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel".
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message ...... it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi's bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America's best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America’s other allies together.
This whole comment is a lie a sentence – but the above is truly galling.
Thousands of US solders dead, hundreds of thousands maimed for life, trillions in treasure – and we are supposed to be grateful to the Jews.
It is no wonder that Jews are hated.
(Hate the sin – not the sinner.)
Think Peace — Art
A cursory check reveals that poster Sam the Sham used the word “ominous”. Kinda blew his rational hardnosed realist cover.
As for the article, it seems entirely for internal consumption.
That’s unfortunate, Phil, for American Conservative.
“Lies are what the world lives on, and those who seek the truth, and live their lives in accord, are not the many but the few.” – Joseph Campbell, Myths to Live By
otoh, now you’ll have more time to dedicate to Council for the National Interest (CNI)
http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/
(not to be confused with Center for the National Interest, cftni )
CNI was founded by Congressman Paul Findley and Congressman Paul “Pete” McCloskey.
CNI’s Mission:
–
In the last few days several people who had participated on Flynt and Hillary Leverett’s blog, http://goingtotehran.com (formerly RaceforIran) asked about the Leveretts and expressed the wish that they could return to this rambunctious marketplace of ideas. goingtotehran.com has been inactive for several years.
The Leveretts’ postings were of the very highest calibre — Flynt heads a department of international affairs at Penn State, and Hillary has taught at Yale and American Universities. Both were members of George Bush’s national security team.
Ron, Phil, others — what would it take, or how would one go about enticing the Leveretts to contribute to Unz.com, or to re-activate their blog?
Whether one either believes or disbelieves, FEAR is an ancient, powerful motivator and demotivator.
A well known example is when Jewish-born Jesus died and was taken down the cross. Recognized as a Follower of The Way, a central disciple, Peter, tried his best to deny what he witnessed and learned.
Let me look at the good case you have made for "enticing" the Leveretts to either "contribute to U.R. or reactivate their blog."
# 1, I don't know why they have deactivated their blog.
# 2, I do not know what was either lost or gained by doing # 1.
# 3, FEAR of Zionist "push back" is powerful thing and I trust the Leveretts are unafraid to express & share what they know at the U.R.
I do sense why powerful Jews shut down The Daily Stormer web site. They prefer web sites who keep up the minimal standards of endarkenment and monitor the rest.
Oddly, they continue to allow into "light of day," ex-airline stewardess, Rebekka Roth's gripping web page and You Tube videos. Hmm.
The enticement for the Leverret couple to intensify the proliferation of what they know can indeed happen by the encouragement and EXAMPLE of other bright, fearless, and respectably noble writers.
In the end though, the strongest enticement comes from within people who are albeit born with a passion to expose deceit.
Appears to me, for one final & grossly under publicized example, that Mary Pinchot Meyer, the late ex-wife of CIA Cord Meyer, Jr. had that exceptional "truth telling" instinct within her and was murdered.
"Fear is a powerful thing." Full disclosure, S2C, the "glitterati" rocker & loyal Hillary Clinton disciple, Bruce Springsteen, once said that in a song. Thank you!
Optics matter.
The 'dumb blonde' who excelled as a spy - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/30/usa.helenasmith
Typo, one *is* too many: … why the establishment is so nervous about this and her …
Why The Best Spies in Mossad And The CIA Are Women
– https://www.forbes.com/sites/crossingborders/2012/09/30/why-the-best-spies-in-mossad-and-the-cia-are-women/#61bb04222bb0
I noticed how elegantly and skillfully Ms. Plame handled this controversy, like a true pro, with no ego, etc.
Apologies all. There is so much there that’s problematic AF and I should have recognized it sooner. Thank you for pushing me to look again.
I’m not perfect and make mistakes. This was a doozy. All I can do is admit them, try to be better, and read more thoroughly next time. Ugh.
Indeed, absolutely everyone with the slightest knowledge of American foreign policy knows perfectly well that Jewish groups and activists have been almost totally responsible for all our recent---and prospective!---Middle East wars, which have (unsurprisingly) always targeted Israel's various regional enemies.
Normally, I might be tempted to describe those who deny this simple reality as "ignorant half-wits," but in this particular situation such a characterization is far too mild. Instead, I'd go so far as to say that anyone who disputes the basic truth has clearly unmasked himself as an obvious mental-defective or a blatant liar, much more likely the latter. Thus, incidents such as this are sometimes a useful metric for evaluating the nature of journalists and public pundits.
Supposedly in Victorian England it was considered horrifically improper to mention that women actually had "legs." This produced some rather bizarre circumlocutions, whether in written or spoken form, but nonetheless I'd still think that most Victorians quietly recognized that women possessed some bodily part connecting their torsos with their feet. Consider also the old fable of The Emperor's New Clothes.
But the most amusing tableau that comes to my mind is the public stoning scene from Monty Python's LIFE OF BRIAN. Although religious edict prohibited women from participating, every eager stoner was actually a woman wearing an obviously fake beard, purchased from the fake-beard vendor just outside the arena. As the suspicious official asks "Are any of you women?" all reply "No!" in their fake-masculine voices. Similarly, Bill Kristol and the 117 other Jewish Neocon pundits and mega-donors all fanatically pushing for an Iran War together cry out "No Jews here!" at the top of their lungs...
But Ron, you are obviously just a “self-hating Jew” whose opinions are thereby invalidated. Why you’re nearly as deplorable as I am. You’re just another David Cole type!
For both yourself and Mr Giraldi however, I have one question: Of the non-Jew Israel Firsters, how many are Evangelicals, or rely on the Military Industrial Complex for livelihood, or military officers who make ridiculous sums when deployed to “war” zones? Aren’t they ALL self-dealing traitors???
Even though they support Israel, some pastors have their doubts about Israel’s military actions. About 4 in 10 (41 percent) agree with the statement, “It is hard to defend Israel’s military tactics.” Fifty percent disagree, while 9 percent are not sure.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2015/july/new-research-should-christians-support-israel-most-think-so.html
39% of US thinks Israel has too much influence
15% of US thinks Israel has too little influence (lol)
https://www.brookings.edu/research/american-attitudes-on-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
Now, what I've been implying in a few of my comments is based on the principle of something called "logical inference."
I have been attacked by yourself and your Most Beloved Zionist Brethren on repeated occasions for merely pointing out the nefarious deeds of The Lobby. Not once in my over 2,000 comments have I even remotely incited hatred towards Jews. Yet, your MBZB took the liberty of accusing me of being, and I quote, "a Jew hater," while you yourself chose to go with the somewhat less offensive terms of "pellet dropper" or "modern day Nazi."
So, here's the "logical inference" part, pay attention.
If you or your MBZB are prepared to label me a "Jew hater" for shining a light on the machinations of The Lobby, doesn't it stand to reason you would do the same to someone who is Jewish, if they did the same thing. And since it is awkward to call a Jew a "Jew hater," wouldn't it be more likely to call them a "self-hating Jew"?
Even a blurry-eyed weasel should be able to see the difference, no?
Now, what I’ve been implying in a few of my comments is based on the principle of something called “logical inference.”
Ditto
Ginsberg indicates King John had been induced to believe Normandy was by some hereditary theory British property and should be reclaimed. The financier’s motivation, I would suspect, was that they would be able to “lend” credit, at interest, to King John. If they had developed the Rothschild/Federal Reserve scheme at that time, the principal of the “loan” would have been their profit when they sold the king’s promise to pay the bankers (the ‘loan’ collateral; i.e., Treasury security) for their creating a book-entry credit to pay the king’s suppliers.
no, they are not
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lynyrd Skynyrd
This is incorrect.
The idea that merely criticizing actions or behavior by Jews or Israeli policies is anti-Semitic is a propaganda meme spread by anti-Semites.
Here is list of what International Jewry (ADL) considers antisemitic:
Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
Jews have too much power in the business world
Jews have too much power in international financial markets
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust
Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
Jews have too much control over global affairs
Jews have too much control over the United States government
Jews think they are better than other people
Jews have too much control over the global media
Jews are responsible for most of the world’s wars
People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave
I got 4 out of 11!
[some] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[some] Jews think they are better than other people
[some] People hate Jews because of the way [some] Jews behave
Me too!
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
Sam, it ain’t rocket science.
Dissemblers, most of them, they call it themselves.
What is the issue: Unnecessary and failed wars?
or is it: Dem Jews?
It’s pretty clear to me what most of ‘em think.
It’s interesting that if a minority in the US (2%) want power over the 98% they can only get it at present though controlling the power structure – President, Congress, the administration, the media and the financial system .
The risk for them is 1) the subversion becoming publicly obvious and 2) the state itself (their power transmission system) beginning to crumble.
If that’s what’s happening now, then their only option is dictatorship – which the Ziocs in fact seem to be going for, with their “Hate Crime” laws aimed at US citizens, and supposedly legitimizing their Antifa Red Guards.
Next stop, probably, Homeland Security detentions of “Domestic Terrorists”, reeducation camps, mass arrests and Zioc State and County Commissars with absolute powers to root out dissidents.
It’s happened before, for example in Russia after 1917, where, the Bolsheviks (the Zioc’s Nº1 heroes), “legally” set it up with extreme violence against any opposition.
So could they do the same in the US? Absolutely they could – they did 9/11, wasted $ 6 trillion on Israel’s wars and have already caused the deaths of 1000′s of US civilians and servicemen.
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
Oh my. And from there to THINK OF THE HOLOCAUST!!!
800 words of manipulative self-dealing bullshit. Devoid entirely of evidence and Reason.
And so utterly devoid of self-awareness that you can’t see that YOU are the “stereotypical Jew” who gives rise and cause to Jew-haters. Meanwhile the honest Jews who seek facts and employ objective Reason like Ron Unz have their voices drowned out by your incessant and boring bullshit.
The petty opportunists at the American Conservatives like pretending to be some courageous and principled people (that they are not). They even make some quite bold declarations: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/about-us/
“The American Conservative adheres to old and proven principles that are often discarded or paid lip service in the pursuit of power.”
The American Conservative adheres to the old and proven principles of opportunism to secure their paycheck and equal standing among the ziocon moral and intellectual pigmies.
Also, Mr. Giraldi might be interested in Mr. Sobran's phrasing/terminology and important distinction, from back in 1990, when it comes to criticizing and confronting Jewish Privilege:- http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/what-do-jennifer-rubin-and-brett-stephens-have-against-nativism-oh-wait/#comment-1584909
The Alt Right uses the term:
https://www.counter-currents.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Iceberg.jpg
Source: https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/against-right-wing-sectarianism/
Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
Jews have too much power in the business world
Jews have too much power in international financial markets
Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust
Jews don't care what happens to anyone but their own kind
Jews have too much control over global affairs
Jews have too much control over the United States government
Jews think they are better than other people
Jews have too much control over the global media
Jews are responsible for most of the world's wars
People hate Jews because of the way Jews behave
I got 4 out of 11!
[some] Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
[some] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[some] Jews think they are better than other people
[some] People hate Jews because of the way [some] Jews behave
Me too!
[some] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[some] Jews think they are better than other people
Correction:
[most] Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
[most] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[most] Jews think they are better than other people
Although many Jews do not like what Israel is doing – they NEVER complain – the Little Jews fear the Big Jews more than they cherish the truth. They do not have the courage to be free of Zionism.
Think Peace --- Art
For both yourself and Mr Giraldi however, I have one question: Of the non-Jew Israel Firsters, how many are Evangelicals, or rely on the Military Industrial Complex for livelihood, or military officers who make ridiculous sums when deployed to “war” zones? Aren’t they ALL self-dealing traitors???
Among the most ardent of Israel’s supporters are senior pastors of Protestant churches. Most (80 percent) agree “Christians should support Israel.”
Even though they support Israel, some pastors have their doubts about Israel’s military actions. About 4 in 10 (41 percent) agree with the statement, “It is hard to defend Israel’s military tactics.” Fifty percent disagree, while 9 percent are not sure.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2015/july/new-research-should-christians-support-israel-most-think-so.html
39% of US thinks Israel has too much influence
15% of US thinks Israel has too little influence (lol)
https://www.brookings.edu/research/american-attitudes-on-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/
I’m also very sorry to hear that, Phil.
I only went to read articles there when one of your articles was linked from antiwar.com; otherwise I found TAC pretty boring. Anything else of interest which they publish appears on Unz and other sites anyway.
Still I am sorry for you and for us all, because we may not be able to stop the war on Iran which our friends are cooking up. Maybe, your “ex-”fellow agent, Ms Palme, as Ron is alluding to, just picked up and dropped your article in order to bring attention to it, with the expected result.
I hope you’ll fill us in on all the beck channel communication which you will have had regarding this article.
Thank you for everything you do and good luck!
(consider crowd funding or publishing a book !)
The Jews what done it!
The genre is wide open.
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
Mukasey is Jewish
So… You are ADMITTING now that the Jews run everything – including America’s wars ?
The article (on the initiation of war), and most comments, are limited to recent events.
However, it should be noted that US engagement in WW I has been suggested to have been initiated by Wall Street to protect the millions in loans they had made to European nations. HMS Lusitania was a set-up for WW I http://www.mujahidkamran.com/articles.php?id=48 ; Nomi Prins, ALL THE PRESIDENTS BANKERS.
WW II has been documented by Robert Stinnett, DAY OF DECEIT, based upon government documents obtained by FOIA, to have been the result of a 17 month agenda connived by FDR and his cronies on Wall Street to force Japan into aggression. Pearl was not a surprise.
The initial use of the CIA to further Wall Street exploitation was their funding of CIA’s Kermit Roosevelt to put the Shah as ruler of Iran in 1953.
Whether Wall Street is synonymous with Jews is not determined.
http://www.councilforthenationalinterest.org/new/ (not to be confused with Center for the National Interest, cftni )CNI was founded by Congressman Paul Findley and Congressman Paul “Pete” McCloskey.CNI's Mission:--In the last few days several people who had participated on Flynt and Hillary Leverett's blog, http://goingtotehran.com (formerly RaceforIran) asked about the Leveretts and expressed the wish that they could return to this rambunctious marketplace of ideas. goingtotehran.com has been inactive for several years.The Leveretts' postings were of the very highest calibre -- Flynt heads a department of international affairs at Penn State, and Hillary has taught at Yale and American Universities. Both were members of George Bush's national security team.Ron, Phil, others -- what would it take, or how would one go about enticing the Leveretts to contribute to Unz.com, or to re-activate their blog?
SolontoCroesus,
Whether one either believes or disbelieves, FEAR is an ancient, powerful motivator and demotivator.
A well known example is when Jewish-born Jesus died and was taken down the cross. Recognized as a Follower of The Way, a central disciple, Peter, tried his best to deny what he witnessed and learned.
Let me look at the good case you have made for “enticing” the Leveretts to either “contribute to U.R. or reactivate their blog.”
# 1, I don’t know why they have deactivated their blog.
# 2, I do not know what was either lost or gained by doing # 1.
# 3, FEAR of Zionist “push back” is powerful thing and I trust the Leveretts are unafraid to express & share what they know at the U.R.
I do sense why powerful Jews shut down The Daily Stormer web site. They prefer web sites who keep up the minimal standards of endarkenment and monitor the rest.
Oddly, they continue to allow into “light of day,” ex-airline stewardess, Rebekka Roth’s gripping web page and You Tube videos. Hmm.
The enticement for the Leverret couple to intensify the proliferation of what they know can indeed happen by the encouragement and EXAMPLE of other bright, fearless, and respectably noble writers.
In the end though, the strongest enticement comes from within people who are albeit born with a passion to expose deceit.
Appears to me, for one final & grossly under publicized example, that Mary Pinchot Meyer, the late ex-wife of CIA Cord Meyer, Jr. had that exceptional “truth telling” instinct within her and was murdered.
“Fear is a powerful thing.” Full disclosure, S2C, the “glitterati” rocker & loyal Hillary Clinton disciple, Bruce Springsteen, once said that in a song. Thank you!
[some] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[some] Jews think they are better than other people
[some] People hate Jews because of the way [some] Jews behave
Me too!
[some] Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
[some] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[some] Jews think they are better than other people
Correction:
[most] Jews are more loyal to Israel than to [this country/to the countries they live in]
[most] Jews don’t care what happens to anyone but their own kind
[most] Jews think they are better than other people
Although many Jews do not like what Israel is doing – they NEVER complain – the Little Jews fear the Big Jews more than they cherish the truth. They do not have the courage to be free of Zionism.
Think Peace — Art
The whole f*cking MENA is up in smoke, with over a million innocents killed. The Islamists are sprouting like mushrooms, half a million Iraqi children have died b/c of sanctions, and rather than being contrite, those responsible for this atrocity simply tell us “the price was worth it.”
But when we shine a light on those who are responsible for this atrocity, we are immediately accused of inciting violence, of being racists, of being Jew haters. And, as we’ve seen in many cases, the consequences are severe if one steps too far out of line.
As I’ve mentioned many times before, we are living in Orwellian times, indeed.
Can’t get a more weasely response than that… now, can you?
“European values” in Poland: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/404313-poland-destroys-monuments-soviet-russia/
“The destruction of Soviet monuments looks more and more like a part of a big plan of rewriting history and remaking the consciousness of Poles. Obviously initiated by the US and the European Union in the 1990s, to this plan was added a radical nationalist face lift that went badly wrong in the last few years. … since the early 2000s, changes in histo-ry textbooks and on city squares turned more and more against Poland’s neighbors – Russia and Germany.” — – Not a word from the US State Dept. and the many hysterical haters of Hitler in the US.
A tale of a decent Polish man: “…once, when I was returning to Warsaw by train, I said a few cruel words to a Russian woman who was travelling to visit the grave of her husband and lamented lack of gratitude from us. I said: ‘I did not ask anyone to liberate me.’ Now I understand I was wrong. This war against Soviet monuments is a real omen, it re-flects and exacerbates tensions inside our own society. Look at the verbal war of Poles against Poles that we are having now! Now I understand that the old woman was right.”
There is also the ongoing destruction of Ukraine: http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/09/saakashvilis-ploys-are-only-tip-of.html
“Ever since the US State Department’s Special Representative for Ukraine, Kurt Volker, commented to the effect that “Saakashvili is fighting corruption and Ukraine is a state of the rule of law” (sic!), the old Georgian revolutionary now poses great risk for President Poroshenko. … The Americans, who did so much to get Poroshenko elected President of Ukraine in the first round of elections, are unlikely to change out their appointed president as long as his usefulness does not wear out. Poroshenko controls is gradually slipping out of his hands, as his party, the Petro Poroshenko Bloc, has an abysmal approval rating that does not exceed 5%.”
Mr. Saakashvil is kind of an economic migrant in Ukraine: http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2017/Mikheil-Saakashvili-and-a-small-crowd-of-supporters-shoved-their-way-through-a-line-of-guards-on-the-Ukrainian-border-Sunday-making-good-on-the-politician-s-vow-to-return-to-the-land-th/id-c023fcdacf6d4678a608c7a37a382cdc
The glorious Kagans’ revolution is on the march.
I only went to read articles there when one of your articles was linked from antiwar.com; otherwise I found TAC pretty boring. Anything else of interest which they publish appears on Unz and other sites anyway.
Still I am sorry for you and for us all, because we may not be able to stop the war on Iran which our friends are cooking up. Maybe, your "ex-"fellow agent, Ms Palme, as Ron is alluding to, just picked up and dropped your article in order to bring attention to it, with the expected result.
I hope you'll fill us in on all the beck channel communication which you will have had regarding this article.
Thank you for everything you do and good luck!
(consider crowd funding or publishing a book !)
publishing a book !)
The Jews what done it!
The genre is wide open.
Hahaaaaa. You and your fellow travelers are so predictable. Finding Jews is really your passion, nothing else. Also, didn’t you reflexively “Troll” my post. What gives S2C?
Yes I did Troll your post.
There was no option for "Dude, you are in a serious meltdown," so I had to settle for Troll.
Mukasey's particular pedigree of Jewishness speaks directly to the fundamental -- make that incriminating -- element in your rant.
Did you read geokat62's #896?
Read it again.
Predictably, there is no (zero) comment-evidence that illustrates you have read & comprehended this fact filled article by P. Giraldi.
The shameful fact is that you (!) are the only one here who does not know about the highly predictable SHAMS that you routinely post here.
Except that is of course your loyal sidekick, & ever predictable "Ditto Head," iffen-iffen who has knowledge "on high % loan- interest" from American Jews who are much more affluent & possibly more arrogant than you.
(Sigh)
Because P.G. has stomped upon a precious Zio 3rd Rail and got the strange attention of Valerie Plame, you even gave up family / prayer time to post high Hasbara Cowboy bullshit here!
(Sigh)
I know what you are.
Selah.
But when we shine a light on those who are responsible for this atrocity, we are immediately accused of inciting violence, of being racists, of being Jew haters. And, as we've seen in many cases, the consequences are severe if one steps too far out of line.
As I've mentioned many times before, we are living in Orwellian times, indeed.
You thought you shone a light, but the filters you installed, revealed only that which you had predetermined to see.
I'll worry about Arab claims when they return Egypt to Christendom. It took centuries to get Iberia back, if you remember.
Evidently not.
Anyway, my comment stands and it’s apparent to me that you already have it all figured out.
Dear Sam,
Yes I did Troll your post.
There was no option for “Dude, you are in a serious meltdown,” so I had to settle for Troll.
Mukasey’s particular pedigree of Jewishness speaks directly to the fundamental — make that incriminating — element in your rant.
Did you read geokat62′s #896?
Read it again.
On the contrary; "Troll" signifies the user disdaining to read a post. Yet you did read it and precisely as I expected found the Jew!
Thus if I listed the hundreds of names in the State Department and other agencies, staffers and decision makers, high and low, who supported the neocon agenda, you would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew. That was my point. Very little else matters for you, Geokat and Giraldi.
Why is it that Giraldi, Unz, I and some others are the ones with the filters, but you and your xian Zionist sidekicks are supposedly filter-free? Might it be a classic case of projection?
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
Damn, Sam! I’ve written similar things myself, many times, in many forums and given our past history here, I’ shocked to know that you would write such excellent stuff!
WTF is everyone arguing about? I think Rodney King said it best!
I do reckon we think similarly. A major difference arises in that I am an unrepentant realist, you the romantic; where I endeavour to do what I think I can achieve within constraints erected by the system in which we all find ourselves, you search for idealism. It's of no use my spilling the contours of what I do on an internet forum since that would be self-defeating. It is a difficult object for most men in power to venture beyond their zones of comfort and envisage the common good. Most fail. Exhibit A the man in the Oval Office. Enough said.
It is truly sad to hear of Mr. Giraldi’s firing from The American Conservative. That action just proves the power the Zionists exercise over our country, especially in foreign policy. They will not tolerate anyone speaking the truth. Mr. Giraldi joins a long list of those that the Zionists have tried to silence. He joins Joseph Sobran, Paul Craig Roberts, Joe Francis, and many others. I hope this will encourage Phil to speak out even more and I am eagerly awaiting the book I hope he will write. Phil, thanks for being our voice and saying so elegantly what we feel.
I live in NJ. “Some of my best friends are Jews” and some of my family are Jewish converts. I have never heard of violence being threatened against them on that account, certainly not by UR types.
Are you equally concerned that Ms. Mercer’s articles will spur violence against Muslims? Mr. Derbyshire’s or Mr. Kersey’s against blacks? Mr. Karlin’s against Ukrainians? Those of Dawkins (who doesn’t publish here) against Catholics?
If I were in Mr. Giraldi’s place I would not have titled this article as he does. But were I in Mr. Unz’s place I would not, I think, take any editorial action.
Oh my. And from there to THINK OF THE HOLOCAUST!!!
800 words of manipulative self-dealing bullshit. Devoid entirely of evidence and Reason.
And so utterly devoid of self-awareness that you can’t see that YOU are the “stereotypical Jew” who gives rise and cause to Jew-haters. Meanwhile the honest Jews who seek facts and employ objective Reason like Ron Unz have their voices drowned out by your incessant and boring bullshit.
There is more than sufficient reason in each of the points, as well as evidence. Perhaps you might consider adding a second middle name to include ‘b’ since ‘d’, ‘b’ and the Last name as is, complete the trifecta of your condition.
900+ comments and counting.
1,000 coming up.
"The American Conservative adheres to old and proven principles that are often discarded or paid lip service in the pursuit of power."
The American Conservative adheres to the old and proven principles of opportunism to secure their paycheck and equal standing among the ziocon moral and intellectual pigmies.
I don’t know much about this situation, but this article seems to support your claim:
– http://www.nationalreview.com/article/354893/american-conservative-unfused-betsy-woodruff
Also, Mr. Giraldi might be interested in Mr. Sobran’s phrasing/terminology and important distinction, from back in 1990, when it comes to criticizing and confronting Jewish Privilege:
– http://www.unz.com/jderbyshire/what-do-jennifer-rubin-and-brett-stephens-have-against-nativism-oh-wait/#comment-1584909
The Alt Right uses the term:
Source: https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/08/against-right-wing-sectarianism/
Oh my. And from there to THINK OF THE HOLOCAUST!!!
800 words of manipulative self-dealing bullshit. Devoid entirely of evidence and Reason.
And so utterly devoid of self-awareness that you can’t see that YOU are the “stereotypical Jew” who gives rise and cause to Jew-haters. Meanwhile the honest Jews who seek facts and employ objective Reason like Ron Unz have their voices drowned out by your incessant and boring bullshit.
Those are the hallmarks of a top notch dissembler.
Lil Roddy Dreher probably got a case of the vapors and had to retire to his fainting couch after reading Phil’s writings.
It's happened before, for example in Russia after 1917, where, the Bolsheviks (the Zioc's Nº1 heroes), "legally" set it up with extreme violence against any opposition.So could they do the same in the US? Absolutely they could - they did 9/11, wasted $ 6 trillion on Israel's wars and have already caused the deaths of 1000's of US civilians and servicemen.
Excellent comment…
Offhand I'd say that Valerie Plame is probably about the most famous undercover CIA agent in American history, and during the 2000s her name was regularly on the the front pages. Even this past year, I've seen her occasionally mentioned in my morning NYT/WSJ. And we have someone of such reasonable prominence sending out an utterly explosive Tweet with the headline "America's Jews Are Driving America's Wars," then backtracking an hour or two later under massive pressure and apologizing. That certainly seems like a pretty major story.
Yet the coverage was almost entirely confined to second- or mostly third-rank media outlets, with virtually no significant journalists or foreign policy figures seeming to provide any critical quotes and almost all the shrill attacks I saw coming from people whom I'd never heard of. The only prominent public critics I noticed were Alan Dershowitz and Marc Levin, both especially fanatic Jewish Neocons. And not a single word got into the NYT, the WSJ, or any other top-tier mainstream news outlet.
The obvious explanation of such remarkable silence is that roughly 100% of all the serious foreign policy experts and journalists know perfectly well that Plame and Giraldi were absolutely correct, and don't want to have all their friends laughing at them if they publicly claim otherwise. Perhaps they're also a bit concerned about putting statements on the record that might place them in front of a hangman's noose a bit down the road.
Anyway, I need to return to my software and let all of you get back to arguing about whether or not the sky is blue...
The sky is not always perceived as blue, Sir!
“Blue” is a psycho-physical phenomenon and the perception of it depends on many variables, so the claim is no more cut and dried than the claim in the title of PG’s otherwise excellent article. In other words, what seems obvious is probably better described as simplistic.
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
{Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.}
‘targeted’ how?
What are you implying?
Are you equally concerned that Ms. Mercer's articles will spur violence against Muslims? Mr. Derbyshire's or Mr. Kersey's against blacks? Mr. Karlin's against Ukrainians? Those of Dawkins (who doesn't publish here) against Catholics?
If I were in Mr. Giraldi's place I would not have titled this article as he does. But were I in Mr. Unz's place I would not, I think, take any editorial action.
For sure. An otherwise fine piece of work is ruined by the title.
My god, why are so many people convinced that Jews view gentiles as “others”?
Well it seems to be a common belief amongst the leading Jewish intelligencia. I mean, did Sontag include Jews in her condemnation?
The white race is the cancer of human history; it is the white race and it alone—its ideologies and inventions—which eradicates autonomous civilizations wherever it spreads, which has upset the ecological balance of the planet, which now threatens the very existence of life itself.[
Hey Sam The Sham,
Predictably, there is no (zero) comment-evidence that illustrates you have read & comprehended this fact filled article by P. Giraldi.
The shameful fact is that you (!) are the only one here who does not know about the highly predictable SHAMS that you routinely post here.
Except that is of course your loyal sidekick, & ever predictable “Ditto Head,” iffen-iffen who has knowledge “on high % loan- interest” from American Jews who are much more affluent & possibly more arrogant than you.
(Sigh)
Because P.G. has stomped upon a precious Zio 3rd Rail and got the strange attention of Valerie Plame, you even gave up family / prayer time to post high Hasbara Cowboy bullshit here!
(Sigh)
I know what you are.
Selah.
Metaphysical issu
Well, let’s start cutting away at the bits we have illuminated and then see if the symptoms abate.
Yes, they do, but since they haven't yet done so tells me that there is not much chance of it happening in the future.
Right. Because the norms of international law have been suspended by force.
You seem to agree with my assertion that Israel wasn’t established on the same terms as other states so, to return to the original quote, do you still give approval to the right of Jews in Palestine to establish a national state, even if it is not ‘on the same terms as any other people establishing a national state’ ?
If so, why do you consider this to be a special case?
Yes I did Troll your post.
There was no option for "Dude, you are in a serious meltdown," so I had to settle for Troll.
Mukasey's particular pedigree of Jewishness speaks directly to the fundamental -- make that incriminating -- element in your rant.
Did you read geokat62's #896?
Read it again.
Dear SolontoCroesus
On the contrary; “Troll” signifies the user disdaining to read a post. Yet you did read it and precisely as I expected found the Jew!
Thus if I listed the hundreds of names in the State Department and other agencies, staffers and decision makers, high and low, who supported the neocon agenda, you would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew. That was my point. Very little else matters for you, Geokat and Giraldi.
I suspect you want a point-by-point debate of your comment.
Not gonna do it.
That was one reason for the brief, unembroidered mention that Mukasey is Jewish: it's a simple, true (but pregnant) fact that provided a droll response to what I thought was an unhinged, almost hysterical rant. End of my investment in the discussion.
You addressed Ron. Maybe he'll take the bait, but if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Phil highlighted geokat62's comment that shone a spotlight on your unintended, or subconscious proof that Phil's thesis is correct: you complained that discussion of Jewish involvement in America's wars was being conducted in a way that might cause harm to Jews. You harangued Ron for not being worried about Jews.
geokat62 focused on the destructive aspect of the wars themselves, and on the reality that a million or more innocent people have died and entire states are in turmoil and ruin, for generations; that is the important reality to confront.
You are worried about a hypothetical, older Jew in New York City being harmed by words typed by an anonymous, amorphous blogger.
To borrow a phrase Frank Luntz might love, there does not seem to be a moral equivalence between your concerns and geokat62's.
I really wasn't thinking about the "counting Jews" part of your comment: I guess you were focusing on a comparative head-count aspect, trying to make the point that a lot of the people who are behind decisions to go to war are not Jewish, and that is certainly true.
But why is USA so entangled in that part of the world in the first place? See comments #783 and #846 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017858 : USA is involved in MENA because of fanatical Jabotinskyites who, at the Jonathan Institute in July 1979 rolled out the blueprint for the Global War on Terror.
The Jonathan Institute was established to memorialize Jonathan Netanyahu, who died in the Israeli raid on Entebbe on July 4, 1976: the date was not a mere coincidence: Israelis believe that that raid on the day that USA was celebrating its 200th anniversary of independence was Israel's declaration of its status as co-equal guardian of "liberty and democracy." The July 1979 conference in Jerusalem documented that status.
In July, 1979 the Shah was still in (tenuous) power in Iran; Iran was not a focus of the Conference -- Arafat and PLO were the major sources of 'terrorism.'
However -- if you want to understand the complexity and intensity of Bibi's animus toward Iran, consider this scenario: Jonathan Netanyahu was Bibi's older brother and the apple of his father's eye. After his death Benzion worshipped his son like a martyr; in fact, Israel views Jonathan as a national hero-martyr; his collected letters have acquired the stature of Anne Frank's diary. Benjamin was studying at Columbia when Jonathan died; he left the USA and returned to Israel where he and his father set up the Jonathan Institute. There is also a shrine to Jonathan in Philadelphia, where the Netanyahus grew up. (It was also in Philadelphia -- in Independence Hall -- that the American Jewish Congress was formed in 1918.)
Jonathan was wounded at Entebbe because he did something stupid. Ephraim Sneh was the medic on the Entebbe team; he failed to save Jonathan's life. Think about that: if you're the guy who presided over the death of Israel's major martyr, what do you do to redeem yourself? Sneh was elected to Knesset and became one of the earliest and most vocal and persistent critics of Iran. It was Sneh who introduced to the Knesset the notion that Iran's nuclear capabilities should be eradicated. All of these emotionally charged events bled into each other and dramatically shaped Bibi Netanyahu.
It is fanciful to suppose that Netanyahu will change his stripes: he is psychologically bound to his crazy father, and Benzion Netanyahu was Jabotinsky's spokesperson and adroit political operative in NYC when Revisionist zionist steamrollered American Jewry. Bibi can as readily turn his back on that generational legacy as Eli Weisel could turn the holocaust museum into a sports bar.
BTW Check out Mukasey's background. He fits the definition of 'fanatical Jabotinskyite.'
Oh no! Those Gentiles are looking for traitor Jews. This Jew does not like that. Therefor he must terrorize them with guilt.
What quilt you say – of course, they are totally guilty of wanting to kill Jews. (NOT)
You can bet that he has a reeducation camp waiting for those two.
Mr. Sam Holocaust – please what is the name of your new gulag? You are a very clever Jew – tell us. How about Camp Holocaust?
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. Everyone who opposes Jews is NOT willing to kill them. That is a canard and a Big Jew lie told by the Littler Jews.
p.s. Of course there are always one or two with blood in their eye – but they are the types who cannot put two words together – that disqualifies all UR commenters.
Phil, sorry to hear this but TAC is not outlet of integrity. At least not anymore. It is their loss.
Well Jacques,
I do reckon we think similarly. A major difference arises in that I am an unrepentant realist, you the romantic; where I endeavour to do what I think I can achieve within constraints erected by the system in which we all find ourselves, you search for idealism. It’s of no use my spilling the contours of what I do on an internet forum since that would be self-defeating. It is a difficult object for most men in power to venture beyond their zones of comfort and envisage the common good. Most fail. Exhibit A the man in the Oval Office. Enough said.
It’s not so much that I’m a romantic; but that I call it like I sees it, and most systems either suck or soon will. I think the main difference is that you have a higher tolerance for BS than I, and I don’t think our efforts count for much in a positive sense, i.e., we’re better at doing damage than building anything positive that lasts. Any improvements in mankinds’ behavior is pretty much a matter of evolution if there’s any possibility of it at all. But whatever, you done good in your power comment.
BTW, that ain’t no man (at least by my definition) in de WH. It’s a huge compost heap that doesn’t realize what a jackass it is, and is among the least who should be in a position of power.
Now my former “allies” here are gonna be on my tail. Oh, well…
Spouting more ridiculous assertions, as usual.
Look, if The Lobby were comprised of little green men that were diverting the country from its national interests, by lobbying our government to attack its regional enemies (Saturn and Jupiter) at great expense to the homeland in terms of treasure and lives, I am convinced you would probably join forces with us in resisting and denouncing the foreigner’s activities, rather than accusing us of being anti-Martians.
Are you honest enough to admit this?
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Its laughable that society still has haters against the Jews when they are less than 1% of the population. So stop trying to motivate the troops for your own political and financial gains, because you are the lowest form of life, lower than defecation on the bottom of the ocean!
I’m not anti-Semitic (Arabs, Hebrews, Mandaeans, Maronites, Mhallami, Druze, Samaritans, Assyrians, etc.), per se.
I just HATE self-serving Semitics, who feel they have some special right to violate the divine free will of other human beings (e.g. “Let’s commit cold-blooded acts of serial-terror, and blame it on someone else!”).
BTW, what’s a “semetic?”
No proof that this book ever existed. Perhaps somebody could research how and where was it first mentioned on internet. Imo, it i s safe to assume it is hoax at this point.
It is easy to make a hoax preying on desire for confirmation bias like when you expressed it by " it seems to be a reasonably accurate description of America’s current peril." The same argument as you as made by the holocaust scholar and propagandists Deborah Lipstadt . When several books about holocaust like one by Benjamin Wilkomirski or by Misha Defonseca were proven to be confabulations and hoaxes Deborah Lipstadt stated that it was not a problem because the books describe reality of Holcaust well and thus could be used for educational (propaganda and indoctrination) purposes.
It is possible that some easy to expose anti-semitic hoaxes are created on purpose to make allegations that some legitimate records are also a hoax. I am thinking of Protocols of Elders of Zion which are being tried to be dismissed as hoax for last 100 years with a mixed success.
Solzhenitsyn explained in 200 yrs together that The Protocols as such were fake, produced by Tsarist government department.
Not true. Solzhenitsyn did not render a judgment on The Protocols authenticity. Though yes he does not belief in the existence of "the Elders of the Zion." Actually what does authenticity of the Protocols really mean is entirely different question. What matters is the insight and predictive power of the Protocols which many other post fact hoaxes do not have. The Protocols appeared long before the Bolshevik Revolution on can be judged on the accuracy of predicting the system in Soviet Union. Solzhenitsyn was actually so impressed with how savvy were the Protocols in terms of modern concept of sociology, psychology and social engineering that he doubted that they could have been procured by Okhrana. He wrote
Mr. Giraldi,
Sorry to hear about your victimhood from the Zionist Jewish Lobby. Perhaps you and/or Mr. Unz could establish a Patreon page to receive donations from us that value Alternative Media.
Anyone notice how the cowardly Zionist Jew Trolls have completely ignored commenting on Israel’s HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL NUCLEAR WEAPONS?
Anyone notice how the cowardly Zionist Jew Trolls have completely ignored commenting on the Fake Holocaust or crybaby Anti-Semitic subversive memes?
http://www.renegadetribune.com/the-six-million-myth
Stop feeding the cowardly Zionist Jew Trolls. You are only playing into their Hasbara AKA Hanna Barbara cartoonish hands and making yourselves look the fool.
I just realized that Sam Sharma’s initials are SS. Maybe he is the progeny of one of Hitler’s Zionist Jewish soldiers.
I know I said to stop feeding the Zionist Jewish Trolls, but this Lay Up was just too funny to resist.
”Genius Explains with Facts Why and How Israel Did 9/11”
"The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior."
A lot of us posting comments at TAC have been permanently banned…..usually for fingering the conniving jooies and their cuck goy minions as the main cause of these stupid slaughters in the ME. Censorship is a TAC specialty, and chances are it was the religious phony editor, Dreher, who stuck the knife in your back…..at the behest of the many jooies on the TAC staff. Dreher is fond of posting pics of himself posing as a saint…..my favorite pic is of St. Rod in horn rims (sign of extreme intelligence) ladling out slop to 300 lb slobs of all colors at his local food bank somewhere in a mosquito infested bayou.
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matt 6:2
On the contrary; "Troll" signifies the user disdaining to read a post. Yet you did read it and precisely as I expected found the Jew!
Thus if I listed the hundreds of names in the State Department and other agencies, staffers and decision makers, high and low, who supported the neocon agenda, you would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew. That was my point. Very little else matters for you, Geokat and Giraldi.
Dear Sam Shama,
I suspect you want a point-by-point debate of your comment.
Not gonna do it.
That was one reason for the brief, unembroidered mention that Mukasey is Jewish: it’s a simple, true (but pregnant) fact that provided a droll response to what I thought was an unhinged, almost hysterical rant. End of my investment in the discussion.
You addressed Ron. Maybe he’ll take the bait, but if I were you, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Phil highlighted geokat62′s comment that shone a spotlight on your unintended, or subconscious proof that Phil’s thesis is correct: you complained that discussion of Jewish involvement in America’s wars was being conducted in a way that might cause harm to Jews. You harangued Ron for not being worried about Jews.
geokat62 focused on the destructive aspect of the wars themselves, and on the reality that a million or more innocent people have died and entire states are in turmoil and ruin, for generations; that is the important reality to confront.
You are worried about a hypothetical, older Jew in New York City being harmed by words typed by an anonymous, amorphous blogger.
To borrow a phrase Frank Luntz might love, there does not seem to be a moral equivalence between your concerns and geokat62′s.
I really wasn’t thinking about the “counting Jews” part of your comment: I guess you were focusing on a comparative head-count aspect, trying to make the point that a lot of the people who are behind decisions to go to war are not Jewish, and that is certainly true.
But why is USA so entangled in that part of the world in the first place? See comments #783 and #846 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017858 : USA is involved in MENA because of fanatical Jabotinskyites who, at the Jonathan Institute in July 1979 rolled out the blueprint for the Global War on Terror.
The Jonathan Institute was established to memorialize Jonathan Netanyahu, who died in the Israeli raid on Entebbe on July 4, 1976: the date was not a mere coincidence: Israelis believe that that raid on the day that USA was celebrating its 200th anniversary of independence was Israel’s declaration of its status as co-equal guardian of “liberty and democracy.” The July 1979 conference in Jerusalem documented that status.
In July, 1979 the Shah was still in (tenuous) power in Iran; Iran was not a focus of the Conference — Arafat and PLO were the major sources of ‘terrorism.’
However — if you want to understand the complexity and intensity of Bibi’s animus toward Iran, consider this scenario: Jonathan Netanyahu was Bibi’s older brother and the apple of his father’s eye. After his death Benzion worshipped his son like a martyr; in fact, Israel views Jonathan as a national hero-martyr; his collected letters have acquired the stature of Anne Frank’s diary. Benjamin was studying at Columbia when Jonathan died; he left the USA and returned to Israel where he and his father set up the Jonathan Institute. There is also a shrine to Jonathan in Philadelphia, where the Netanyahus grew up. (It was also in Philadelphia — in Independence Hall — that the American Jewish Congress was formed in 1918.)
Jonathan was wounded at Entebbe because he did something stupid. Ephraim Sneh was the medic on the Entebbe team; he failed to save Jonathan’s life. Think about that: if you’re the guy who presided over the death of Israel’s major martyr, what do you do to redeem yourself? Sneh was elected to Knesset and became one of the earliest and most vocal and persistent critics of Iran. It was Sneh who introduced to the Knesset the notion that Iran’s nuclear capabilities should be eradicated. All of these emotionally charged events bled into each other and dramatically shaped Bibi Netanyahu.
It is fanciful to suppose that Netanyahu will change his stripes: he is psychologically bound to his crazy father, and Benzion Netanyahu was Jabotinsky’s spokesperson and adroit political operative in NYC when Revisionist zionist steamrollered American Jewry. Bibi can as readily turn his back on that generational legacy as Eli Weisel could turn the holocaust museum into a sports bar.
BTW Check out Mukasey’s background. He fits the definition of ‘fanatical Jabotinskyite.’
Thank you for the important historical reference. This explains a lot about the madness of Bibi-land policies and about the stupidity of American Jews who follow the Piper, out of a sense of alleged ethnic superiority, towards the global (final) catastrophe, this time entirely self-inflicted. The Middle Eastern wars have produced some 4 million civilian deaths. Hundreds of thousands of the victims are children. The whole countries have been ruined following the PNAC blueprint. Time to convert the Eli-Weisel-Holocaust museums into the museums of de-Zionification.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=oded_yinon
http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=project_for_the_new_american_century
On the contrary; "Troll" signifies the user disdaining to read a post. Yet you did read it and precisely as I expected found the Jew!
Thus if I listed the hundreds of names in the State Department and other agencies, staffers and decision makers, high and low, who supported the neocon agenda, you would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew. That was my point. Very little else matters for you, Geokat and Giraldi.
Your point, Sam is that if you swing a dead among the people in positions of power, you can’t help but hit a good number of your countrymen; which we then use as confirmation bias for our arguments, however, neither Phil nor anyone else is making this point!
The only point in the article is that if you were to swing the dead cat among the propaganda arm of the war machine, besides hitting mainly your countrymen, NONE of which would be against starting a war against Iran.
Quite right. All these agencies and senior positions are filled mainly by Americans.
I am a Jew who lives in Dixie and I agree with this article.
Yawn. Your anti-Semitism is boring.
VULGAR methods as expected...
A truly disgusting and despicable article. Mr Giraldi has forfeited his reputation with serious people- if he ever had any in the first place. Mr Unz- this website is going off the deep end. It’s actually getting boring and predictable as well as vile. I’ve been reading it for a few months, but with articles like these, I’m losing interest.
and, particulalry, this? -- http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeenMichael Ledeen: “Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize.” [Wall Street Journal, 9/4/2002]
“I think the level of casualties is secondary. I mean, it may sound like an odd thing to say, but all the great scholars who have studied American character have come to the conclusion that we are a warlike people and that we love war.… What we hate is not casualties but losing. And if the war goes well and if the American public has the conviction that we’re being well-led and that our people are fighting well and that we’re winning, I don’t think casualties are going to be the issue.” [American Enterprise Institute, 3/25/2003]
Do you have a strong enought moral fiber to meet the facts?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
"Ledeen was was a founder and former member of the Board of Advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs." https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/who_is_michael_ledeen/
Wonder if FB will work with the Chinese and Saudi governments to also determine what should be censored?
Peace.
common sense policies in putting neutral people in positions like ambassadors
Does this mean that the US should never allow a Muslim to occupy a position of influence with regard to Muslim countries or exercise authority on any issues that might impact Muslims or Islam?
If it is determined that one cannot find Muslim citizens that can be neutral with regard to any Muslim countries (due to their natural inclinations of a spiritual brotherhood) and cannot carry out their duties with a detached mindset that conforms to the policies of the government that they represent - then sure, Muslims shouldn't be ambassadors to other Muslim countries. Especially if they are using their position to benefit the other country to the detriment of the US. I don't see that as a problem.
Peace.
Hasbara have so low levels of argumentativitet…. ”higher voerbal aikiu”
VULGAR methods as expected…
Thank you so much Matt.
Any war with my country will be terrible for our world.
RE: Giraldi’s pink slip from TAC
Where’s the looney “everything is a false flag” conspiracy brigade? Do they have the week off? Maybe they have never taken the time to notice that when the wind changes the flapping of the flag changes.
Would back-up states be established on the basis of ethnicity -- like Germans hoped to do; on basis of religion, like Tibet?
What if the same ethnic group has differing religious allegiances, like the Irish -- would there be a separate state for Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants?How would the British sort themselves into back-up states? Monarchists HERE, former colonials THERE, Immigrants somewhere else?Would there be roads to connect the various back-up states? Who would pay for them? Who could use them? What system of laws would apply in back-up states?Wasn't Robert E Lee, in effect, fighting for the right to have a back-up state?
Are you saying his effort should have been honored?What would happen to people already settled on a territory designated for a back-up state for some different group -- should that native group be required to move out? Where would they go? Do they get a back-up state?
How would that work?
Same as it works for the primary state.
Choose up sides and fight it out.
does this come from your evangelical background?
Wow! Finally a voice of reason: Israel bad, Iran good. If Iran seeks Israel’s extermination, why would that lead anyone to be against Khomeini?
There sits an Arab, smoking his hookah,
Even if it begun in Siberia,
Or in Hollywood, with Hava Nagilah.
-Me'ir Arielwhile clinging to those same Semitic - Abrahamic roots that marked them as "Chosen" and conveyed to them title to that plot of land where they transplanted their European fantasy-utopia, and simultaneously persuading themselves that they are "blood brothers" to the Persian empire, per Yossi Alpher. Now, realize that in exchange for a few pieces of silver, US legislators give to these deeply identity-conflicted people access to information as well as the most sophisticated weapons in the world, and that they have more nuclear weapons than anybody knows about, and Kim Jong-Un begins to look like a model partner: at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.
With "thou shalt not kill" we have long absorbed exceptions we are brought up to be comfortable with so it is hardly even a reference point for discussion. But principles of free speech and only killing Americans after due process and foreigners in lawful wars in lawful ways should, when ee confront reality, make us avoid oversimplifying the issues or the answers.
Who gets to decide if it is a lie? How can we get at “the truth” if some speech is prohibited? How many times does a lie get to be repeated before the investigation is closed?
Consider the hackneyed, “We need to have a conversation about race.” Only the naïve believe that the speaker is desirous of and willing to have a real conversation about race.
Consider the JQ. It has been decided that the disproportionate representation of Jews in media, finance, academia, government, etc. is off limits to discussion. I can see the logic in limiting the discussion based upon historical events, but that presupposes that disproportionate representation is not a problem. Who got to make the decision that it was not a problem? Were all the facts in play during the decision making process?
The presumption has to be in favour of free speech and I think it is easy enough to come down in fsvour of the David Irvings getting visas because in fact well resourced groups are well equipped to counter the likes of him with an outcome which could even be favourable to the anti-denialist cause in the long run. While I might find it oppressive to have to be always on top of the arguments one can take it that the Jewish community – in any country with a substantial Jewish community – is equipped and ready for battle. But that justification does suggest that there might be a case for protecting some less well equipped victims of slander.
Supposing the Chinese government promoted lies against Tibetans to try and ensure that few countries gave them asylum. Supposing a propagandist against Tibetans was coming to Australia to recruit Chinese students (though not too obviously: mostly by meretricious rhetoric) to spread the anti Tibetan message throughout the small states in the Pacific? We must hope that our Foreign Affairs and Immigration departments are full of wise, i formed and judicious people!
A corolĺary is that Jews are damned if they dpo and damned if they don’t. Set aside the misfortune of those Jewish neocons being ready with a package for the ME when 9/11 gave them the Bush Administration’s attention
Same as it works for the primary state.
Choose up sides and fight it out.
iow you haven’t given this much more thought than your basic rutting dog.
does this come from your evangelical background?
Cont… Forget about the unpleasant ways some see the ADL etc behaving…. Some such organisations are rationally justified if you have a history of being persecuted and lied about. Suppose there were no state of Israel….. Well that’s a speculation too far though I don’t see the European Holocaust on its own as sufficient to keep organised Jewry in America as fully armed as it is….
I was hoping that you would address the JQ within the purview of what you wrote here:
Does this mean that the US should never allow a Muslim to occupy a position of influence with regard to Muslim countries or exercise authority on any issues that might impact Muslims or Islam?
Hey iffen,
Is a fairly strong position to take. I think citizens should be vetted for the position based on their opinions and common sense evaluation to see if they would be biased. For instance a Moroccan Muslim might be a good fit to be an ambassador to, say, Malaysia. But possibly not if he has a Malaysian wife.
If it is determined that one cannot find Muslim citizens that can be neutral with regard to any Muslim countries (due to their natural inclinations of a spiritual brotherhood) and cannot carry out their duties with a detached mindset that conforms to the policies of the government that they represent – then sure, Muslims shouldn’t be ambassadors to other Muslim countries. Especially if they are using their position to benefit the other country to the detriment of the US. I don’t see that as a problem.
Peace.
Malaysia is essentially British at the core, the government positions and GLCs are monopolised by the Malays and their coreligionists the Muslim Indians, while the private economy is run almost entirely by the Chinese, with abundant cheap labour provided by foreign workers from various impoverished Asian countries.
There is a national slogan, 'Satu Malaysia' (one Malaysia) and more recently 'Sehati Sejiwa' (one heart, one soul) and both are patently false. I count, at minimum three Malaysias: The Malaysia of the Malays, the Malaysia of the Chinese, and the Malaysia of the foreign workers.
So in this situation, pretty much any ambassador would have a conflict of interest!
The question is why the United States should get involved !
What you did is known as a "drive-by". Drop a set of comments and then disappear to your more *important works*. But I am sure you are reading some of the comments, particularly those tagging your own. Therefore, in the interests of brevity, I'll frame my post as a set of separate but related points [accompanied by brief observations]:
1. You have an interesting and arguably valuable Webzine. It is also arguably the venue for a class of lunatics and potentially dangerous individuals because you allow completely unfiltered entry, which also very conveniently leaves you with the plausible argument, which you customarily avail of, that you are unaware of what gets written both above and below the commentary sections. It is a clever ploy, but nevertheless leaves open the question as to whether you as the Editor-in-chief and obviously someone with an interest in influencing the court of public opinion, are acting as amicus curiae or animus nocendi? More on this later.
2. I happen to strongly support free speech and have written about it often. When free speech devolves into high levels of acrimony as they do here, and the logical conclusions of which might easily end with ordinary Jews getting physically hurt, do you at all spare a few minutes of your precious day worrying about it? You might dismiss this as so much "victim talk" - many here claim that to be a Jewish obsession [I never whine, but ironically many of my interlocutors who make those charges here, do, and simply, I am not a bit worried about being able to take care of myself], but I am worried about those easily identified older ordinary Jewish persons who might find themselves at the receiving end of the anger of some lunatic which frequents this board. Yes, do a search and you will find plenty of instances where Jews are targeted on the UR. Living in CA, you might not appreciate it, but NY is a different story.
3. Some of your contributors and certainly many of the regular commentators wallow in Holocaust denial. What are your views on that subject? My own is that many millions died in WWII and it isn't especially important in context to distinguish, that 6 million Jews or 55 million humans perished in that blighted episode of our history. While Holocaust museums commemorate Jews who died, they also contain the story of many others who died. It is repugnant sarcasm to remark "maybe another Holocaust memorial might be built" etc. etc. when the key should be to internalise the reminder, and to guard against a repetition.
4. The intersection of the set that (a) denies the Holocaust, (b) calls Hitler the saviour incarnate of the German people, (c) all Jews the planners of WWII, (d) Jews the conspirators of 9/11 is also the union of those subsets. You know very well this is the case. If I exaggerate, it is not an extreme exaggeration. What are your views on this matter? Do you belong to this superset?
5. Iran, recent U.S. wars, and Israel. You wrote clearly that 117 Jews are behind the recent wars and each was waged for the benefit of Israel. Here are my thoughts. It shouldn't be especially remarkable beyond the proportionality aspect, that Jews were key influencers behind GWB's wars, which also had more than a few non-Jewish hands endorsing the same faulty casus belli: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, Clinton, Robert Gates, John Ashcroft, Mukasey, George Tenet, Gordon England, Stephen Hadley, Meghan O'Sullivan, Douglas Lute, Negroponte, John Bolton, Karl Rove, to name a few.
The Israeli leadership, most prominently Netanyahu, found himself with yet another opportunity to jump on the bandwagon. He did jump, very unwisely despite the objections of the generals of the IDF, who actually have the task of prosecuting wars. The situation is vastly different now. There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have it. Thus his incessant melodrama, mainly to please his Black-hat coalition. The man is a power fiend.
The point is Ron, the 117 Jews did what all men in power have always done. Power has a way of corrupting men. The history of these United States, as are the histories of all other powers, great and small, replete with the very same behaviour. It is also the case that citizens of the winners in wars get to benefit far more than the losers. Obviously. Lives get lost. A tragedy, but more the blighted tradition of Mankind. Old men foment wars and young men die. Apparently, our system of majoritarianism hasn't been able to buck that tradition of a thousand years, Jews or no Jews! Yet what can be said about the U.S. without blushing, is that of all nations, she has re-built many a continent after war ravaged them.
Not quite the Roman Empire to Carthage. What are views on this matter?
Sam The Sham pontificating, top-to-bottom, to Ron Unz: “There is not a whit of a chance Netanyahu can do anything to push a war against Iran. The generals will not have.”
Oh my, the arrogant horror, the didactic horror!
(sigh)
And here’s hoping Ron continues a Chief of U.R
Staff car “drive by” of comment # 866!
Selah majoritarianism 6 million blushing fiend.
FYI commenters, we added an update to the article: “On the morning of September 21st Phil Giraldi was fired over the phone by The American Conservative, where he had been a regular contributor for fourteen years. He was told that “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars” was unacceptable. The TAC management and board appear to have forgotten that the magazine was launched with an article by founder Pat Buchanan entitled “Whose War?” which largely made the same claims that Giraldi made about the Jewish push for another war, in that case with Iraq. Buchanan was vilified and called an anti-Semite by many of the same people who are now going after Giraldi.”
The main justified objection in my view is that your article talks solely about 'Jews' whereas a lot of commentators have pointed out that they're Jewish but have nothing to do with 'The Jews'. Perhaps you could think about adopting a 'Big Jews' / 'Little Jews' split? Or perhaps we could revive the term 'Judea' to refer to the collective global nation of Jews, of which Israelis are only a part.
I found Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran, and yourself
to be critical of Jewish influence, but not hating Jews.
Antisemite is a very strange term and it gives power to certain groups.
Facts are:
Semites are a large group of many people Arabs, Jews, etc.
The people in power can label anyone antisemite and they have power to ruin someones reputation.
Stereotypes about Jews,
vs criticizing an individual Jew
vs generalizing Jews
vs hating Jews
all different things.
Saying many Jews are rich shouldnt be antisemitic.
or to some other organizations/groups with whom your point of view coalesces?--> form small groups of Unz Forum habitués to host events, from the salon/living room level to our churches and libraries, where sound information can be presented? --> if more of us come out of the closet, put our own "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" on the line, as you have?
We've seen all sorts of groups come "out of the closet." How about those of us who truly believe in "America First," and that American policy AND AMERICAN HISTORY should have an equal voice in the public square, summon the courage to "Out" ourselves, ADL & its intimidation tactics be damned. Make it the next new movement.
You've taken the vanguard position, Phil. The least we can do is fall in behind you or better yet, beside you.
THANKS for the important update.
To reiterate a past comment, I am eager to read Pat Buchanan's take on The American Conservative's disgraceful deed. Please "be all you can be," Patrick!
Soviet Russia under Khrushchev only needed de-Stalinization. Much worse is the present US government plight. We desperately need de-Zionization and even elite Democrat Party stalwart Jews know President Trump "ain't no Hitler."
May God bless your exposure of powerful institutional evil.
Before arriving at this conclusion, though, he had given this concise summary of the two opposing camps, the Israel-firsters vs. the America-firsters:There's that "t" word again. Good luck trying to convince ardent Zionists and their xian Zionist tools (esp. the PEA brain variety) about the veracity of that statement.
He then provides the following details regarding the underlying motivation for the neocons policy of remaking the ME:
[besides hitting mainly your countrymen, NONE of which would be against starting a war against Iran.]
Quite right. All these agencies and senior positions are filled mainly by Americans.
Simply disgraceful.
Henceforth, The American Conservative magazine should be disparagingly referred to as The American Cuckservative magazine, and boycotted by those of us who cherish the few brave souls who are willing to speak truth to power, no matter how offensive it is to those in power and their acolytes.
[…] For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril. Phil Giraldi […]
You are right. I was an early subscriber to TAC, and have a copy of the first issue published. Too bad the magazine was hijacked. I’m surprised that you lasted as long as you did. Thank you for your work, and good luck in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yutvaoLg1gQ
“Empire with a foreign brain” – true. Mind-altering venom injected to the US “brain”, to be precise:
“The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior.”
If it is determined that one cannot find Muslim citizens that can be neutral with regard to any Muslim countries (due to their natural inclinations of a spiritual brotherhood) and cannot carry out their duties with a detached mindset that conforms to the policies of the government that they represent - then sure, Muslims shouldn't be ambassadors to other Muslim countries. Especially if they are using their position to benefit the other country to the detriment of the US. I don't see that as a problem.
Peace.
If it is determined that one cannot find Muslim citizens that can be neutral with regard to any Muslim countries (due to their natural inclinations of a spiritual brotherhood)
I think that you see the problem that I envisage.
Should Cuban-Americans have any input into policy regarding Cuba? Should Mexican-Americans be considered reliable with regard to Mexico and immigration issues? Should Gary Locke have been allowed to serve as ambassador to China? Can white judges be relied upon when the victim is white and the defendant is black?
I rib people for being afraid of a slippery slope, but if this is not one then there is no such a thing.
My question is why is it that only the Jews are questioned? Why not all the others?
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
Well done, Phil! You must have got close enough to the mark!
The main justified objection in my view is that your article talks solely about ‘Jews’ whereas a lot of commentators have pointed out that they’re Jewish but have nothing to do with ‘The Jews’. Perhaps you could think about adopting a ‘Big Jews’ / ‘Little Jews’ split? Or perhaps we could revive the term ‘Judea’ to refer to the collective global nation of Jews, of which Israelis are only a part.
I suspect you want a point-by-point debate of your comment.
Not gonna do it.
That was one reason for the brief, unembroidered mention that Mukasey is Jewish: it's a simple, true (but pregnant) fact that provided a droll response to what I thought was an unhinged, almost hysterical rant. End of my investment in the discussion.
You addressed Ron. Maybe he'll take the bait, but if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Phil highlighted geokat62's comment that shone a spotlight on your unintended, or subconscious proof that Phil's thesis is correct: you complained that discussion of Jewish involvement in America's wars was being conducted in a way that might cause harm to Jews. You harangued Ron for not being worried about Jews.
geokat62 focused on the destructive aspect of the wars themselves, and on the reality that a million or more innocent people have died and entire states are in turmoil and ruin, for generations; that is the important reality to confront.
You are worried about a hypothetical, older Jew in New York City being harmed by words typed by an anonymous, amorphous blogger.
To borrow a phrase Frank Luntz might love, there does not seem to be a moral equivalence between your concerns and geokat62's.
I really wasn't thinking about the "counting Jews" part of your comment: I guess you were focusing on a comparative head-count aspect, trying to make the point that a lot of the people who are behind decisions to go to war are not Jewish, and that is certainly true.
But why is USA so entangled in that part of the world in the first place? See comments #783 and #846 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017858 : USA is involved in MENA because of fanatical Jabotinskyites who, at the Jonathan Institute in July 1979 rolled out the blueprint for the Global War on Terror.
The Jonathan Institute was established to memorialize Jonathan Netanyahu, who died in the Israeli raid on Entebbe on July 4, 1976: the date was not a mere coincidence: Israelis believe that that raid on the day that USA was celebrating its 200th anniversary of independence was Israel's declaration of its status as co-equal guardian of "liberty and democracy." The July 1979 conference in Jerusalem documented that status.
In July, 1979 the Shah was still in (tenuous) power in Iran; Iran was not a focus of the Conference -- Arafat and PLO were the major sources of 'terrorism.'
However -- if you want to understand the complexity and intensity of Bibi's animus toward Iran, consider this scenario: Jonathan Netanyahu was Bibi's older brother and the apple of his father's eye. After his death Benzion worshipped his son like a martyr; in fact, Israel views Jonathan as a national hero-martyr; his collected letters have acquired the stature of Anne Frank's diary. Benjamin was studying at Columbia when Jonathan died; he left the USA and returned to Israel where he and his father set up the Jonathan Institute. There is also a shrine to Jonathan in Philadelphia, where the Netanyahus grew up. (It was also in Philadelphia -- in Independence Hall -- that the American Jewish Congress was formed in 1918.)
Jonathan was wounded at Entebbe because he did something stupid. Ephraim Sneh was the medic on the Entebbe team; he failed to save Jonathan's life. Think about that: if you're the guy who presided over the death of Israel's major martyr, what do you do to redeem yourself? Sneh was elected to Knesset and became one of the earliest and most vocal and persistent critics of Iran. It was Sneh who introduced to the Knesset the notion that Iran's nuclear capabilities should be eradicated. All of these emotionally charged events bled into each other and dramatically shaped Bibi Netanyahu.
It is fanciful to suppose that Netanyahu will change his stripes: he is psychologically bound to his crazy father, and Benzion Netanyahu was Jabotinsky's spokesperson and adroit political operative in NYC when Revisionist zionist steamrollered American Jewry. Bibi can as readily turn his back on that generational legacy as Eli Weisel could turn the holocaust museum into a sports bar.
BTW Check out Mukasey's background. He fits the definition of 'fanatical Jabotinskyite.'
“Benzion Netanyahu was Jabotinsky’s spokesperson and adroit political operative in NYC when Revisionist zionist steamrollered American Jewry.”
Thank you for the important historical reference. This explains a lot about the madness of Bibi-land policies and about the stupidity of American Jews who follow the Piper, out of a sense of alleged ethnic superiority, towards the global (final) catastrophe, this time entirely self-inflicted. The Middle Eastern wars have produced some 4 million civilian deaths. Hundreds of thousands of the victims are children. The whole countries have been ruined following the PNAC blueprint. Time to convert the Eli-Weisel-Holocaust museums into the museums of de-Zionification.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=oded_yinon
http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=project_for_the_new_american_century
Dare to differentiate between anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism?
Mearsheimer & Walt have a relatively straightforward answer to this question in The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy:
If it is determined that one cannot find Muslim citizens that can be neutral with regard to any Muslim countries (due to their natural inclinations of a spiritual brotherhood) and cannot carry out their duties with a detached mindset that conforms to the policies of the government that they represent - then sure, Muslims shouldn't be ambassadors to other Muslim countries. Especially if they are using their position to benefit the other country to the detriment of the US. I don't see that as a problem.
Peace.
I keep seeing you mentioning Malaysia as a Muslim country, Talha. That’s really only a half truth.
Malaysia is essentially British at the core, the government positions and GLCs are monopolised by the Malays and their coreligionists the Muslim Indians, while the private economy is run almost entirely by the Chinese, with abundant cheap labour provided by foreign workers from various impoverished Asian countries.
There is a national slogan, ‘Satu Malaysia’ (one Malaysia) and more recently ‘Sehati Sejiwa’ (one heart, one soul) and both are patently false. I count, at minimum three Malaysias: The Malaysia of the Malays, the Malaysia of the Chinese, and the Malaysia of the foreign workers.
So in this situation, pretty much any ambassador would have a conflict of interest!
That is unfortunate.
I found Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran, and yourself
to be critical of Jewish influence, but not hating Jews.
Antisemite is a very strange term and it gives power to certain groups.
Facts are:
Semites are a large group of many people Arabs, Jews, etc.
The people in power can label anyone antisemite and they have power to ruin someones reputation.
Stereotypes about Jews,
vs criticizing an individual Jew
vs generalizing Jews
vs hating Jews
all different things.
Saying many Jews are rich shouldnt be antisemitic.
Do you enjoy this? — http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=project_for_the_new_american_century
and, particulalry, this? — http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeen
Michael Ledeen: “Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize.” [Wall Street Journal, 9/4/2002]
“I think the level of casualties is secondary. I mean, it may sound like an odd thing to say, but all the great scholars who have studied American character have come to the conclusion that we are a warlike people and that we love war.… What we hate is not casualties but losing. And if the war goes well and if the American public has the conviction that we’re being well-led and that our people are fighting well and that we’re winning, I don’t think casualties are going to be the issue.” [American Enterprise Institute, 3/25/2003]
Do you have a strong enought moral fiber to meet the facts?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
“Ledeen was was a founder and former member of the Board of Advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.” https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
http://www.alternet.org/story/15860/who_is_michael_ledeen/
It’s easy (rhetorical) virtue to say, “We’ve got your back, Phil,” so in an effort at a bit more authenticity (hell, I’m still basically a coward),
How can we “have your back,” Phil?
–> contribute to CNI http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2018000
or to some other organizations/groups with whom your point of view coalesces?
–> form small groups of Unz Forum habitués to host events, from the salon/living room level to our churches and libraries, where sound information can be presented?
–> if more of us come out of the closet, put our own “lives, fortunes, and sacred honor” on the line, as you have?
We’ve seen all sorts of groups come “out of the closet.” How about those of us who truly believe in “America First,” and that American policy AND AMERICAN HISTORY should have an equal voice in the public square, summon the courage to “Out” ourselves, ADL & its intimidation tactics be damned. Make it the next new movement.
You’ve taken the vanguard position, Phil. The least we can do is fall in behind you or better yet, beside you.
Cynthia's program of 'power cells' -- cutting progressive/conservative divides -- reminds me of your proposal for deep study groups. Join forces? Use contact@unrig.net
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2X9ubpVso&spfreload=5
A Talk with Cynthia Mckinney | Israeli Lobby and Awangate
no ethnic lobby has diverted that policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise suggest
So Jews have to pay a penalty because they are better at lobbying than other groups?
BTW, you never have sent me my very own copy of “the national interest.”
http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeen
It is not for nothing that there is a definition "Israel-firsters." None of other ethnic groups in the US could rival the Jewish Lobby' self-serving and subversive activities that have been harmful for the US.
Jewish and North European cultures are different. Jewish culture is more like south European culture. North European/protestant cultures are/were higher trust and less macho than south European cultures. so the salient point is the mixture of cultures; the effect of cultures on each other, and the backstory about why and how those cultures came to be mixed.
It seems that you are giving conflicting views regarding free speech. Is it bland or do the David Irvings get their platform? Should Giraldi have received a pink slip from TAC?
I was hoping that you would address the JQ within the purview of what you wrote here:
Well I do pride myself in eing willing to bight the bullet when necessary ans I would say yes to the David Irving visa for Australia but probably not for South Pacific nationscif he was being sponsored by tran to to rpund picking up UN votes against Israel by telling them that Israel was founded on systematic lies...
PG getting the pink slip, if true, is as outrageous as John O'Sillinan's and John Derbyshire's from the NR.
I have only just discovered the urban dictionary definition of JQ and my first response is that the simple minded who infest blogs and who are likely to tell you that the Rothschilds are Zionists who own all the central banks would be a bigger problem for modern civilisation if they had two IQ points to rub together. Am not sure where to start on your proposed addressing of "JQ". Try me with aninitial proposition and perhaps explain how you derive it.
or to some other organizations/groups with whom your point of view coalesces?--> form small groups of Unz Forum habitués to host events, from the salon/living room level to our churches and libraries, where sound information can be presented? --> if more of us come out of the closet, put our own "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" on the line, as you have?
We've seen all sorts of groups come "out of the closet." How about those of us who truly believe in "America First," and that American policy AND AMERICAN HISTORY should have an equal voice in the public square, summon the courage to "Out" ourselves, ADL & its intimidation tactics be damned. Make it the next new movement.
You've taken the vanguard position, Phil. The least we can do is fall in behind you or better yet, beside you.
Thank you Solon! Indeed, support those who have been confronting these issues for years. I am the executive director of the Council for the National Interest, which has been around for going on thirty years, trying to fix the Israel-dominated foreign policy that prevails. We are an educational foundation, tax exempt and we welcome contributions to keep working to tell Americans the truth about what is going on in the US. More generally, we should all be following your advise to get out into the public space and make your views known. Tell your Congressmen and religious leaders. Most of them won’t like to hear it, but some will occasionally listen!
Why would I thinking anything in paticular?
A thousand replies is very unusual for an article on this site.
Why do you think that may be?
In any case, you posting as Anomymous, by alance of probaiity, sure, you are likely Zionist Jew or what you are calliing Hasbara.
So you’re comfortable with continuing with the status quo. The rules need not be amended to correct for these unfortunate circumstances… the swamp is in no need of draining, as far as you’re concerned?
While there may not be a uniform consensus as to what the national interest is, I think most would agree, whatever it is, it as sure as hell is not identical to that of another country.
Not sure why an American would struggle with this rather basic concept. If I had to speculate, my sense is that this might be a condition that affects many/most Americans with PEA brains.
9/11 ROGUE AGENDA – ZIONISTS ARE DIRECTING AMERICA TO WAR!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0dGq4u0ysjU/
with PEA brains.
And just when I decide to confront one of my frailties for the umpteenth time and resolve to refrain from ad hominem and wrestling in the mud, a comment from weasel speaker, who suffers from Jews on the brain disease, lands in my inbox.
So, weasel speaker, are Jews to be penalized because they are good at lobbying or not?
And before you start the anti-Semite crap, I'll admit that I despise Jewish culture, the Jewish collective, and Jewish power, and given the power, hatred towards others, and corrosiveness shot through all of it, I think that any Gentile who isn't an anti-Semite is either dishonest, stupid, or blind.
Although Ely Wiesel's surname would be better rendered as Weasel, since he was demonstrably a iiar, at times forced to admit that by himself.
Iffen, you are to making good postings at times, try to suppress your zio-neocon inclining, think a little outside that?
Learn first and only then speak your mind: http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=project_for_the_new_american_century
http://historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeen
It is not for nothing that there is a definition “Israel-firsters.” None of other ethnic groups in the US could rival the Jewish Lobby’ self-serving and subversive activities that have been harmful for the US.
So, Mr. PEA brain, if you are in favour of maintaining the status quo, can it not be inferred that you are also in favour of penalizing the average American, who is not very good at lobbying?
Okay, you are not going to answer a simple question.
Should American Jews be prohibited from lobbying?
I reiterate my position that while you condemn all Jews [manifestly diverse in their political philosophies] of "Israel firsting", your fallback position is girded by the writings of many Jews, while your cynical j'accuse! features exclusively Jews, no matter their stripe.
Malaysia is essentially British at the core, the government positions and GLCs are monopolised by the Malays and their coreligionists the Muslim Indians, while the private economy is run almost entirely by the Chinese, with abundant cheap labour provided by foreign workers from various impoverished Asian countries.
There is a national slogan, 'Satu Malaysia' (one Malaysia) and more recently 'Sehati Sejiwa' (one heart, one soul) and both are patently false. I count, at minimum three Malaysias: The Malaysia of the Malays, the Malaysia of the Chinese, and the Malaysia of the foreign workers.
So in this situation, pretty much any ambassador would have a conflict of interest!
Ok – Uzbekistan then…
Mr. Giraldi,
THANKS for the important update.
To reiterate a past comment, I am eager to read Pat Buchanan’s take on The American Conservative’s disgraceful deed. Please “be all you can be,” Patrick!
Soviet Russia under Khrushchev only needed de-Stalinization. Much worse is the present US government plight. We desperately need de-Zionization and even elite Democrat Party stalwart Jews know President Trump “ain’t no Hitler.”
May God bless your exposure of powerful institutional evil.
1. Khomeini died almost 30 years ago.
2. Ever since Haman, Jews have performed the mental gymnastics of turning defense of one’s own nation/interests into “they want to exterminate da Joos.” Since Haman, Jews have defined themselves as the world’s victim. At the same time, Jews boast that THEY ‘survived’ but other ancient peoples have disappeared. Rather a contradiction, but as Gideon Levy pointed out in a conference in DC in 2015, the conflicting narrative is a pillar of Israeli society. It’s tiresome.
3. Moreover, while he was still alive, and Iran was embroiled in a savage war with Iraq– goaded by US strategists like Zbigniew Brzezinski — Israel was fully engaged with Khomeini’s government in selling weapons to Iran.
In “The Secret War with Iran,” Ronen Bergman explained the rationale for Israel’s practice of ‘supporting’ the Islamic Republic of Iran. Violating the embargo United States placed on selling weapons to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, Israel’s Defense Ministry sold weapons to Iran, in secret, in Operation Seashell:
It’s a good idea to keep these attitudes and practices in mind when considering the multiple forces that push for war in the Middle East and against Iran– including, not least, American Jews; and also the nature and real goals of JCPOA, what its real purposes were (i.e. to gain insider information in furtherance of acquiring dominance over banking/finance), and whether or not, or for what larger strategic purposes it will be abrogated.
4. Given the murderous contempt expressed and carried out by Israelis against the Iranian people throughout the Iran-Iraq war, Yossi Alpher’s more recent explanation of the attitude “most Israelis” hold toward Iran is breathtakingly arrogant and hypocritical. In discussing his book on Israel’s search for new “periphery partners,” Alpher confided to Bruce Reidel that so many Israelis who “go back to the time of the Shah” still have “periphery nostalgia:”
Think of the complexities that zionists/Jews have created for themselves, when Polish and Lithuanian Jews, having planted Berlin-on-the-Mediterranean, shrink with horror from their ancient Semitic roots, as expressed in this epigraph to Gil Eyal’s “The Disenchantment of the Orient” –
At the end of every Hebrew sentence that you utter,
There sits an Arab, smoking his hookah,
Even if it begun in Siberia,
Or in Hollywood, with Hava Nagilah.
-Me’ir Ariel
while clinging to those same Semitic – Abrahamic roots that marked them as “Chosen” and conveyed to them title to that plot of land where they transplanted their European fantasy-utopia, and simultaneously persuading themselves that they are “blood brothers” to the Persian empire, per Yossi Alpher.
Now, realize that in exchange for a few pieces of silver, US legislators give to these deeply identity-conflicted people access to information as well as the most sophisticated weapons in the world, and that they have more nuclear weapons than anybody knows about, and Kim Jong-Un begins to look like a model partner: at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.
SolontoCroesus,
Previously, you inquired as to what can be done to support Mr. Giraldi's noble & brave work.
In comment # 979 corresponding to this now historic article, I know "Jew Boy" and perhaps even Sam The Sham has heard your strong voice speak into the diabolical (Operation) Seashell.
Thank you.
Voltaire wrote about the Jews: ”They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.” http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
Voltaire was exaggerating by assigning the “raging fanaticism” to all of them, and yet it seems that Voltaire’s writing for prophetic with regard to the deadliness of the self-selected “chosen” to the human race.
Here is Michael ledeen, an influental American ziocon: “Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize.” [Wall Street Journal, 9/4/2002] http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeen
Ledeen is a pride of the American Enterprise Institute and a founder and former member of the Board of Advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.
Wolfowitz: “Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative undersecretary of policy for Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, promotes the export of advanced AIM-9M air-to-air missiles to Israel. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, aware that Israel has already been caught selling an earlier version of the AIM missile to China in violation of a written agreement between Israel and the US, intervenes to stop the missile sales. Wolfowitz retains his position at the Defense Department until he and most of his neoconservative colleagues are turned out of the federal government by the onset of the Clinton administration.” [COUNTERPUNCH, 2/28/2004]
Perle: “On October 1970, an FBI wiretap at the Israeli Embassy in Washington picks up Richard Perle, an aide to Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, discussing classified information with an Israeli official. This is the second time Perle has been involved in providing classified information to Israel (see Late 1969).
Perle and Wolfowitz: “In 1973, Richard Perle, a senior staff member on the Senate Armed Services Committee and an aide to Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, uses his position to help fellow neoconservative Paul Wolfowitz gain a position with the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA). Neoconservatives such as Perle and Wolfowitz do not believe in either arms control or disarmament (see 1965 and August 15, 1974). In 2004, author Stephen Green will write, “Wolfowitz also brought to ACDA a strong attachment to Israel’s security, and a certain confusion about his obligation to US national security.” [COUNTERPUNCH, 2/28/2004]
Voltaire was right.
Helping the needy is a good thing. Posting pictures of yourself doing it, well Jesus had something to say about that.
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Matt 6:2
Does this mean that the US should never allow a Muslim to occupy a position of influence with regard to Muslim countries or exercise authority on any issues that might impact Muslims or Islam?
The US should not have any Muslims or Jews residing within our borders, much less in government employment.
Giraldi is and has been spot on for years. Israel poses the greatest threat to We the People that we have ever seen. From their attack on the USS Liberty, to their involvement in 911, to their spying apparatus, their training of American police compliments of the ADL and JINSA, and operation Talpiot where all of America’s high technology is being stolen by Israel, and is being set up to be used against our military in an upcoming false flag that will be used to attack Iran. Make no mistake about it: The terrorist state of Israel is setting up the US for a Bolshevik 2.0, and not only is Trump complicit, he has surrounded himself with these demons who have proven over and over again that their loyalties lie with Israel, not you and me. As if all of this isn’t bad enough, we have a corrupted Congress with 26 dual US/Israeli citizens and number of pedophiles who are being blackmailed by said terrorist state. (Lindsey Graham and John McCain being at the top of that list).
The bottom line is if we don’t wake up and wake up fast, and if our military stays as ignorant and unwilling to stop all these unconstitutional wars for the benefit of the worlds worst pariah/ terrorist state, the future is bleak, and the control these fake Jews have over the monetary system through the fed will only exacerbate the problems that these other circumstances represent.
It’s all by design y’all and make no mistake about it, China and Russia are all the way in on what’s coming about for the good ol USofA.
“Who’s Pushing War With North Korea?”
“Secrets About Kissinger.”
“Secrets You Must Know.”
Quite right. All these agencies and senior positions are filled mainly by Americans.
Of course, Sam, but their ethnicity would be a fantastically accurate predictor of their loyalty!
After spending the last 70 years wringing every last penny and drop of blood from their supposed enemies and persecutors, is it now the Jewish line that their very real sins and crimes are just lobbying? I hope social justice catches up with the Jewish collective, and I hope it is the bitch that they deserve.
And before you start the anti-Semite crap, I’ll admit that I despise Jewish culture, the Jewish collective, and Jewish power, and given the power, hatred towards others, and corrosiveness shot through all of it, I think that any Gentile who isn’t an anti-Semite is either dishonest, stupid, or blind.
There sits an Arab, smoking his hookah,
Even if it begun in Siberia,
Or in Hollywood, with Hava Nagilah.
-Me'ir Arielwhile clinging to those same Semitic - Abrahamic roots that marked them as "Chosen" and conveyed to them title to that plot of land where they transplanted their European fantasy-utopia, and simultaneously persuading themselves that they are "blood brothers" to the Persian empire, per Yossi Alpher. Now, realize that in exchange for a few pieces of silver, US legislators give to these deeply identity-conflicted people access to information as well as the most sophisticated weapons in the world, and that they have more nuclear weapons than anybody knows about, and Kim Jong-Un begins to look like a model partner: at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.
“… in exchange for a few pieces of silver.”
SolontoCroesus,
Previously, you inquired as to what can be done to support Mr. Giraldi’s noble & brave work.
In comment # 979 corresponding to this now historic article, I know “Jew Boy” and perhaps even Sam The Sham has heard your strong voice speak into the diabolical (Operation) Seashell.
Thank you.
This isn’t completely true – Saudi Arabia is the one “driving” the US into war in Yemen. But there is enough truth to it that I now contemplate a quote from the New Testament – “You can’t serve to masters and be loyal to both of them”.
Offhand I'd say that Valerie Plame is probably about the most famous undercover CIA agent in American history, and during the 2000s her name was regularly on the the front pages. Even this past year, I've seen her occasionally mentioned in my morning NYT/WSJ. And we have someone of such reasonable prominence sending out an utterly explosive Tweet with the headline "America's Jews Are Driving America's Wars," then backtracking an hour or two later under massive pressure and apologizing. That certainly seems like a pretty major story.
Yet the coverage was almost entirely confined to second- or mostly third-rank media outlets, with virtually no significant journalists or foreign policy figures seeming to provide any critical quotes and almost all the shrill attacks I saw coming from people whom I'd never heard of. The only prominent public critics I noticed were Alan Dershowitz and Marc Levin, both especially fanatic Jewish Neocons. And not a single word got into the NYT, the WSJ, or any other top-tier mainstream news outlet.
The obvious explanation of such remarkable silence is that roughly 100% of all the serious foreign policy experts and journalists know perfectly well that Plame and Giraldi were absolutely correct, and don't want to have all their friends laughing at them if they publicly claim otherwise. Perhaps they're also a bit concerned about putting statements on the record that might place them in front of a hangman's noose a bit down the road.
Anyway, I need to return to my software and let all of you get back to arguing about whether or not the sky is blue...
Wow, what a nutty explanation of media silence! By this logic, whenever the mainstream media covers something critically (e.g. James Damore’s Google memo, Jason Richwine’s dissertation, Trump’s proposed Muslim ban), the mainstream media view must be right, or else they wouldn’t cover it!
By this reasoning—”anyone who studies this issue knows that the controversial conclusion is true, so the media won’t cover it to avoid embarrassment”—one should be free (even as an allegedly notable figure like Plume) to say anything one wishes about the simple facts of the links between race and IQ, because the media would be too afraid of embarrassment to mention the topic!
I think the rather more obvious explanation of the “silence” is that it isn’t remarkable at all—Plume is simply not a very notable figure, and her tweeting of a somewhat controversial article from a relatively fringe outlet is hardly a front-page, stop the presses story. (I strongly suspect that if a genuinely notable figure, say Paul Ryan or Andrew Cuomo, made an entire speech making the same factual claims Mr. Giraldi makes in this article, the mainstream media would indeed cover it.)
I think that it is obvious that one can't get to be a genuine notable figure making these "factual" claims and if some such figure were to come out of the closet and make these claims he wouldn't be a notable figure much longer.
Weasels gotta weasel.
Okay, you are not going to answer a simple question.
Should American Jews be prohibited from lobbying?
why is the cutout permitted that allows a subset of AIPAC to take US congressmen to Israel on what is, effectively, the taxpayer's dime?
Like the-late JFK and RFK desired long ago, AIPAC should be registered as an agent of a foreign government.
(Sigh) Get on the ball!
Under AIPAC sway, US legislators and the president betrayed all norms of "pursuit of justice" and refused to lobby for a real 9/11 crime investigation.
Even you should be capable of understanding that Jewish owned US legislators & presidents tend to especially LIKE you because they did not have to spend a "bundle" in exchange for your reliable stupidity.
It is all really simple, iffen-iffen, that is once you let the dense Hasbara fog lift.
(Sigh)
Alas, for now, you remain self-ideologically blinded and there's no D.C.-based
pool of Siloam lobbying for you!
(Sigh)
A starter-suggestion. Objectively, read P.G.'s article. (Sigh) If zealot Moonies could undergo successful de-programming, perhaps there's hope for you.
Selah Madoff Chertoff Milchan
We shouldn’t have any neo-Nazis or Pol Pot wannabes either, but we’ve got’em.
(I strongly suspect that if a genuinely notable figure, say Paul Ryan or Andrew Cuomo, made an entire speech making the same factual claims Mr. Giraldi makes in this article, the mainstream media would indeed cover it.)
I think that it is obvious that one can’t get to be a genuine notable figure making these “factual” claims and if some such figure were to come out of the closet and make these claims he wouldn’t be a notable figure much longer.
but then exposes his own trite attempt at guile by admitting that anyone who tells the truth about Jewish power is excommunicated post haste.
it's like when CNN news anchor Rick Sanchez mentioned Jews run the network, he was canned on the spot, proving that yes, Jews do own and run the networks, and will suffer no criticism as such.
but you have these pathetic shills running around demanding that there's no consolidated Jewish identity politics at CNN or other (obviously Jewish owned and dominated) networks, and that Jewish ownership and control has ZERO!! to do with any content or any reporting on Israel/Palestine or the serial wars America is forced to fight on behalf of Israel, and any suggestion that it (Jewish ownership) does, it nothing less than the ranting of hatred-consumed Nazis and anti-Semites!!!!
by their actions, like firing Mr. G from TAC, they only prove how right he is!
Mr. G, like Joseph Sobran, and so many, many others, simply posses too much integrity as men of character to participate in the shabby fraud, and refuse to bleat the platitudes about the 'emperor's fine and flowing raiment - that one must never, never mention 'dem Jews'.
And the paradigm that they've set up carefully over generations is to equate any criticism of the actions of some Jews, as a criticism of ALL Jews everywhere, as if because of the Holocaust, all Jews everywhere are immune to any criticism- because they're Jews. Which doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room when it's *obvious* that many Jews who own our media or dominate our financial system - use that power to help other Jews gain power and privilege and position, and often steer our ship of state in ways that are harmful for non-Jews. But you're not allowed to point that out. And if you do, it can only mean you're a closet Himmler who wants to gas all Jews.
So it's like a pressure cooker, where the outrages of some Jews can never be pointed out, until it simmers and roils under the surface. And one day explodes on the scene, as it did in Germany and other places in history.
why not just have an honest conversation about Jewish power, and give them credit when they deserve it, and criticism when it's valid?
Pardon my rudeness.
Mr. Weasel.
You won’t answer the question because you are a copy and paste propagandist with upside potential as a pellet dropper.
All you anti-Semites yammer and whine continuously, but when someone asks, “What should be done about it?” it’s all whistling and eyeballs and nobody here but us concerned citizens shining fucking flashlights.
just the other day you were fucking shining flashlights.
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017001
Offhand I'd say that Valerie Plame is probably about the most famous undercover CIA agent in American history, and during the 2000s her name was regularly on the the front pages. Even this past year, I've seen her occasionally mentioned in my morning NYT/WSJ. And we have someone of such reasonable prominence sending out an utterly explosive Tweet with the headline "America's Jews Are Driving America's Wars," then backtracking an hour or two later under massive pressure and apologizing. That certainly seems like a pretty major story.
Yet the coverage was almost entirely confined to second- or mostly third-rank media outlets, with virtually no significant journalists or foreign policy figures seeming to provide any critical quotes and almost all the shrill attacks I saw coming from people whom I'd never heard of. The only prominent public critics I noticed were Alan Dershowitz and Marc Levin, both especially fanatic Jewish Neocons. And not a single word got into the NYT, the WSJ, or any other top-tier mainstream news outlet.
The obvious explanation of such remarkable silence is that roughly 100% of all the serious foreign policy experts and journalists know perfectly well that Plame and Giraldi were absolutely correct, and don't want to have all their friends laughing at them if they publicly claim otherwise. Perhaps they're also a bit concerned about putting statements on the record that might place them in front of a hangman's noose a bit down the road.
Anyway, I need to return to my software and let all of you get back to arguing about whether or not the sky is blue...
Excellent observation Mr. Unz. It’s difficult to bring myself to comment on Phil’s excellent articles due to their immediate descent into sub-logical squabbling between antisemitic monomaniacs and the usual Hasbara robots. The threads grow long enough to see Theseus through a Luxembourg sized labyrinth. What’s the point commenting on a thread consisting of dolts debating not with the article, but with each other? I hope Phil Geraldi knows that these commenters do not represent the commonality of his readers.
Solzhenitsyn explained in 200 yrs together that The Protocols as such were fake, produced by Tsarist government department.
Not true. Solzhenitsyn did not render a judgment on The Protocols authenticity. Though yes he does not belief in the existence of “the Elders of the Zion.” Actually what does authenticity of the Protocols really mean is entirely different question. What matters is the insight and predictive power of the Protocols which many other post fact hoaxes do not have. The Protocols appeared long before the Bolshevik Revolution on can be judged on the accuracy of predicting the system in Soviet Union. Solzhenitsyn was actually so impressed with how savvy were the Protocols in terms of modern concept of sociology, psychology and social engineering that he doubted that they could have been procured by Okhrana. He wrote
Well, if someone wrote an essay that concluded with this paragraph, it’s easy to see why they would accuse him of being an anti-Semite:
Pretty racist stuff, huh? But, not willing to leave well enough alone, he hastened to add:
Can you spot the blatent racist statement made by PB? He’s clearly a racist because he insisted that US and Israel interests are not identical. What blasphemy!
Before arriving at this conclusion, though, he had given this concise summary of the two opposing camps, the Israel-firsters vs. the America-firsters:
There’s that “t” word again. Good luck trying to convince ardent Zionists and their xian Zionist tools (esp. the PEA brain variety) about the veracity of that statement.
He then provides the following details regarding the underlying motivation for the neocons policy of remaking the ME:
Okay, you are not going to answer a simple question.
Should American Jews be prohibited from lobbying?
better question: How is it that American Jews get away with refusing to comply with registering lobbyist under FARA?
why is the cutout permitted that allows a subset of AIPAC to take US congressmen to Israel on what is, effectively, the taxpayer’s dime?
Remember this?:
And if you look carefully, you’ll notice that I’m already on the record about what should be done with respect to foreign lobbying (clue, see item #2)
After some additional reflection, the only item missing from this list is:
11. reinstate the draft
Americans need to demand their elected representatives commit to implementing every single item on this list, period. Then, and only then, can they be assured that the swamp draining can begin in earnest.
Please don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. All American Jews are not Zionists AND all Zionists are not Jews. I am virulently anti-AIPAC and anti Sheldon Adelson and anti-Netanyahu — I think he’s a war criminal and a racist, to put it mildly. It really scares me when you put all American Jews in the same basket.
We hear NOTHING in the MSM saying you Little Jews are against those evil people.
It really is all up to you – only if you publicly break ranks, will there be a chance for peaceful resolution. We know that takes courage – let’s see what the Jews are really made of.
Think Peace --- Art
should we call that progress?
just the other day you were fucking shining flashlights.
http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017001
why is the cutout permitted that allows a subset of AIPAC to take US congressmen to Israel on what is, effectively, the taxpayer's dime?
Asked and answered more than once, weasel II.
Per weasel nature you neglected to post my response.
IIRC I had a list that you weaseled past.
I didn’t do that gaga. I named and identified the people that I was talking about!
Why wasn’t the title, These Jewish Neo-cons ……?
Because they don’t all identify as neocons – they all identify as Jewish and strong supporters of Israel,
Careful, Phil. If your responses are not to the PEA brain’s satisfaction, he’s liable to start calling you weasel III. LOL
• LOL: geokat62Listen you green toothed oompa loompa, it would help if you could afford to hire someone to explain things to you. He said he couldn't call them neo-cons because they did not self-identify as neo-cons. My point was that they are neo-cons so why not call them that. Why go the Jew route to engender attaboys from people like you.
So, you are essentially helpless in the face of self-identification. You can’t identify a duck unless it says I am a duck?
I was hoping that you would address the JQ within the purview of what you wrote here:
[Too many typos.]
Well I do pride myself in eing willing to bight the bullet when necessary ans I would say yes to the David Irving visa for Australia but probably not for South Pacific nationscif he was being sponsored by tran to to rpund picking up UN votes against Israel by telling them that Israel was founded on systematic lies…
PG getting the pink slip, if true, is as outrageous as John O’Sillinan’s and John Derbyshire’s from the NR.
I have only just discovered the urban dictionary definition of JQ and my first response is that the simple minded who infest blogs and who are likely to tell you that the Rothschilds are Zionists who own all the central banks would be a bigger problem for modern civilisation if they had two IQ points to rub together. Am not sure where to start on your proposed addressing of “JQ”. Try me with aninitial proposition and perhaps explain how you derive it.
On the contrary; "Troll" signifies the user disdaining to read a post. Yet you did read it and precisely as I expected found the Jew!
Thus if I listed the hundreds of names in the State Department and other agencies, staffers and decision makers, high and low, who supported the neocon agenda, you would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew. That was my point. Very little else matters for you, Geokat and Giraldi.
would unfailingly pursue your single-minded cause of discovering the Jew.
Oh no! Those Gentiles are looking for traitor Jews. This Jew does not like that. Therefor he must terrorize them with guilt.
What quilt you say – of course, they are totally guilty of wanting to kill Jews. (NOT)
You can bet that he has a reeducation camp waiting for those two.
Mr. Sam Holocaust – please what is the name of your new gulag? You are a very clever Jew – tell us. How about Camp Holocaust?
Think Peace — Art
p.s. Everyone who opposes Jews is NOT willing to kill them. That is a canard and a Big Jew lie told by the Littler Jews.
p.s. Of course there are always one or two with blood in their eye – but they are the types who cannot put two words together – that disqualifies all UR commenters.
Okay, you are not going to answer a simple question.
Should American Jews be prohibited from lobbying?
Iffen-iffen,
Like the-late JFK and RFK desired long ago, AIPAC should be registered as an agent of a foreign government.
(Sigh) Get on the ball!
Under AIPAC sway, US legislators and the president betrayed all norms of “pursuit of justice” and refused to lobby for a real 9/11 crime investigation.
Even you should be capable of understanding that Jewish owned US legislators & presidents tend to especially LIKE you because they did not have to spend a “bundle” in exchange for your reliable stupidity.
It is all really simple, iffen-iffen, that is once you let the dense Hasbara fog lift.
(Sigh)
Alas, for now, you remain self-ideologically blinded and there’s no D.C.-based
pool of Siloam lobbying for you!
(Sigh)
A starter-suggestion. Objectively, read P.G.’s article. (Sigh) If zealot Moonies could undergo successful de-programming, perhaps there’s hope for you.
Selah Madoff Chertoff Milchan
What a shame that TAC fired brave truth teller Giraldi for this important article. It is time to end the brutal regime of the American War mongers who all put Israel first, US second (but only if we pander to Israel and do it’s bidding) and humanity last.
Oh no! Those Gentiles are looking for traitor Jews. This Jew does not like that. Therefor he must terrorize them with guilt.
What quilt you say – of course, they are totally guilty of wanting to kill Jews. (NOT)
You can bet that he has a reeducation camp waiting for those two.
Mr. Sam Holocaust – please what is the name of your new gulag? You are a very clever Jew – tell us. How about Camp Holocaust?
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. Everyone who opposes Jews is NOT willing to kill them. That is a canard and a Big Jew lie told by the Littler Jews.
p.s. Of course there are always one or two with blood in their eye – but they are the types who cannot put two words together – that disqualifies all UR commenters.
Arts, you didn’t get right with Jesus this morning.
I can tell these things.
Like the-late JFK and RFK desired long ago, AIPAC should be registered as an agent of a foreign government.
(Sigh) Get on the ball!
Under AIPAC sway, US legislators and the president betrayed all norms of "pursuit of justice" and refused to lobby for a real 9/11 crime investigation.
Even you should be capable of understanding that Jewish owned US legislators & presidents tend to especially LIKE you because they did not have to spend a "bundle" in exchange for your reliable stupidity.
It is all really simple, iffen-iffen, that is once you let the dense Hasbara fog lift.
(Sigh)
Alas, for now, you remain self-ideologically blinded and there's no D.C.-based
pool of Siloam lobbying for you!
(Sigh)
A starter-suggestion. Objectively, read P.G.'s article. (Sigh) If zealot Moonies could undergo successful de-programming, perhaps there's hope for you.
Selah Madoff Chertoff Milchan
October coming up. Time for hibernation for all good woodchucks.
Who's going to drive the school-bus? What of the Donuts at Dunkin, shall we leave a few in Woodchuck's burrow for the winter?
Quack quack
Which of the perps over at The American Cuckservative banned you? My bet it was Saint Rod the Holy.
Is the problem war mongers, or is the problem dem Jews?
There is a yuge potential for political opposition to the war mongers.
Not so much for persecution of dem Jews.
Quack quack
Then call it a neo-con, not a Jew.
Then call it a neo-con, not a Jew.
Iffen – you are the quack - you are not qualified to shine Phil’s shoes.
Little Zionists like you are trouble – Big Zionists are evil and you protect them with your silly got-ya word games. You are an obstructionist – they are a shell game that hides the Jew from responsibility for the wrong doing of their tribe.
Anyone who gleefully admits they are a Zionist – is very stupid. No good person would do that.
Jews do not have a right to an evil state.
Think Peace --- Art
If you do not PUBLICLY attack those Big Jews, you will be put in the same basked – end of story.
We hear NOTHING in the MSM saying you Little Jews are against those evil people.
It really is all up to you – only if you publicly break ranks, will there be a chance for peaceful resolution. We know that takes courage – let’s see what the Jews are really made of.
Think Peace — Art
Well I do pride myself in eing willing to bight the bullet when necessary ans I would say yes to the David Irving visa for Australia but probably not for South Pacific nationscif he was being sponsored by tran to to rpund picking up UN votes against Israel by telling them that Israel was founded on systematic lies...
PG getting the pink slip, if true, is as outrageous as John O'Sillinan's and John Derbyshire's from the NR.
I have only just discovered the urban dictionary definition of JQ and my first response is that the simple minded who infest blogs and who are likely to tell you that the Rothschilds are Zionists who own all the central banks would be a bigger problem for modern civilisation if they had two IQ points to rub together. Am not sure where to start on your proposed addressing of "JQ". Try me with aninitial proposition and perhaps explain how you derive it.
Wiz, I think we have a bad connection. Let’s try again later.
Quack quack
• LOL: geokat62
Listen you green toothed oompa loompa, it would help if you could afford to hire someone to explain things to you. He said he couldn’t call them neo-cons because they did not self-identify as neo-cons. My point was that they are neo-cons so why not call them that. Why go the Jew route to engender attaboys from people like you.
I like to mock you via several ways to which you foolishly let yourself open.
While you're on the subject of calling entities / people by accurate names, I have a question.
What the iffen-fuck is an "iffen"? Who are you?
(Sigh) Tell me, by chance, is "iffen" the Hebrew translation for dupe? Hmm.. To say asshole in Russian, they say "DOO-PAH."
Maybe your multi linguist ventriloquist Sam The Sham really knows "iffen" means dupe / doo-pah and he's yet to break the bad news to you? (Sigh) After neo-con prayer time's up, maybe The Sham will slither down from the rafters and proclaim what is the dismal meaning of "iffen."
Selah Thomas L. Friedman Mnuchin usury
Bolsheviks, Zionists, Neo-cons, who cares? It's the ever changing face of Judea's PR department.
Thanks Phil for your noble effort in trying to prevent this absurd war with Iran from happening by drawing attention to the agitators, who are the usual suspects.
Their minions, commenting on this site, have tried to misrepresent your article as saying that you are singling them out, when you plainly said:
People which you then proceed to name in the next paragraphs ! That makes it pretty clear that you’re obviously talking about a sub-set of people!
In order to discredit your argument, someone was even trying to make the absurd point that Iran is not actually being threatened ! Meaning, that you’re making up the Iran war thereat in order to singls out Jews for derision. Their other line of approach was to ask why you’re picking on Jews just because they just happen to occupy positions of power. You have to love their glaring inconsistency there, because if we accept this line of argument that, of course there are lots of Jews in position of power because they are so capable, then considering the results of our ME misadventures over the last decades, their self-admited over-representation may justifiably be brouhght up for our scorn.
We will not have heard the last of this saga, but I sincerely hope your article may help foil the evil plot which is afoot.
Iran or Charlottesville, it's Jewish Supremacism in action.
Israel has nukes and no inspections. Israel stole US secrets. US carried out USS Liberty attack. Israel worked with Pollard to sell US secrets to the Soviets. During the Cold War, Jews slipped Stalin the secret of the Bomb. Neocon Jews instigated all these wars that have destroyed so much.
BUT we are supposed to pretend Iran is the great terrorist aggressor while Israel is a this poor beleaguered state. And Jewish Neocons, the top warmongers of the world, get to play the role of 'human rights' champions.
In Charlottesville, white patriots assembled legally under US laws. Jewish mayor violated their rights. Police turned on them. The state let Antifa thugs attack Alt Right people.
But Alt Right is 'nazi' and 'terrorist' and the aggressors. Meanwhile, even the loathsome Antifa scum are lionized as heroes akin to US soldiers who stormed Normandy.
Iranians and whites have been Palestinianized. In a way, whites deserve some of this. Why? Palestinians never did them any wrong, but whites aided Zionist destruction of Palestine and laughed at all those Palestinians living under tyranny. Poetic justice. Whites who mocked Palestinians in their service to Jewish Power are now being Palestinianized by the same Jews.
Speaking of the Ashkenazi, they are white only when its convenient and to their advantage
access to universities and government positions – they are a separate race, deserving of special status
within Israel – they are white and all of a sudden proudly European, and disgusted by immigrants
when seeking upscale housing and social status benefits, they are 110% white.
when denouncing American Nationalists, they are a separate race of wise and learned individuals
when supporting unrestricted immigration in the US, they are white people with a conscious
when applying for welfare benefits in New jersey and New York, completely separate race and oppressed minority,
They are chameleons that manipulate every other group they interact act with.
They are the wolf in sheep’s clothing
access to universities and government positions
It's like Mexicans and being 'American'.
Mexicans in the US will often say they are NOT American as it means 'gringo' or 'yanqui imperialist'. They are proudly Mexican.
But if say they should go back to Mexico, they say "I'm just as American as you, bro."
Que?
Quack quack
Then call it a neo-con, not a Jew.
Iffen – you are the quack – you are not qualified to shine Phil’s shoes.
Little Zionists like you are trouble – Big Zionists are evil and you protect them with your silly got-ya word games. You are an obstructionist – they are a shell game that hides the Jew from responsibility for the wrong doing of their tribe.
Anyone who gleefully admits they are a Zionist – is very stupid. No good person would do that.
Jews do not have a right to an evil state.
Think Peace — Art
There sits an Arab, smoking his hookah,
Even if it begun in Siberia,
Or in Hollywood, with Hava Nagilah.
-Me'ir Arielwhile clinging to those same Semitic - Abrahamic roots that marked them as "Chosen" and conveyed to them title to that plot of land where they transplanted their European fantasy-utopia, and simultaneously persuading themselves that they are "blood brothers" to the Persian empire, per Yossi Alpher. Now, realize that in exchange for a few pieces of silver, US legislators give to these deeply identity-conflicted people access to information as well as the most sophisticated weapons in the world, and that they have more nuclear weapons than anybody knows about, and Kim Jong-Un begins to look like a model partner: at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.
“…at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.” – As compared to ziocons who pleasure themselves with the idea of “choseness” and other ridiculous “most moral” and “most victimized” stuff. The stuff has been falling apart, along with the unraveling of the global tragedy.
Voltaire wrote about the Jews: ”They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some day become deadly to the human race.” http://www.nytimes.com/1990/09/30/books/l-voltaire-and-the-jews-590990.html
Voltaire was exaggerating by assigning the “raging fanaticism” to all of them, and yet it seems that Voltaire’s writing for prophetic with regard to the deadliness of the self-selected “chosen” to the human race.
Here is Michael ledeen, an influental American ziocon: “Stability is an unworthy American mission, and a misleading concept to boot. We do not want stability in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and even Saudi Arabia; we want things to change. The real issue is not whether, but how to destabilize.” [Wall Street Journal, 9/4/2002] http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_ledeen
Ledeen is a pride of the American Enterprise Institute and a founder and former member of the Board of Advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs.
Wolfowitz: “Paul Wolfowitz, the neoconservative undersecretary of policy for Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, promotes the export of advanced AIM-9M air-to-air missiles to Israel. The Joint Chiefs of Staff, aware that Israel has already been caught selling an earlier version of the AIM missile to China in violation of a written agreement between Israel and the US, intervenes to stop the missile sales. Wolfowitz retains his position at the Defense Department until he and most of his neoconservative colleagues are turned out of the federal government by the onset of the Clinton administration.” [COUNTERPUNCH, 2/28/2004]
Perle: “On October 1970, an FBI wiretap at the Israeli Embassy in Washington picks up Richard Perle, an aide to Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, discussing classified information with an Israeli official. This is the second time Perle has been involved in providing classified information to Israel (see Late 1969).
Perle and Wolfowitz: “In 1973, Richard Perle, a senior staff member on the Senate Armed Services Committee and an aide to Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson, uses his position to help fellow neoconservative Paul Wolfowitz gain a position with the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency (ACDA). Neoconservatives such as Perle and Wolfowitz do not believe in either arms control or disarmament (see 1965 and August 15, 1974). In 2004, author Stephen Green will write, “Wolfowitz also brought to ACDA a strong attachment to Israel’s security, and a certain confusion about his obligation to US national security.” [COUNTERPUNCH, 2/28/2004]
Voltaire was right.
• LOL: geokat62Listen you green toothed oompa loompa, it would help if you could afford to hire someone to explain things to you. He said he couldn't call them neo-cons because they did not self-identify as neo-cons. My point was that they are neo-cons so why not call them that. Why go the Jew route to engender attaboys from people like you.
Hey iffen-iffen,
I like to mock you via several ways to which you foolishly let yourself open.
While you’re on the subject of calling entities / people by accurate names, I have a question.
What the iffen-fuck is an “iffen”? Who are you?
(Sigh) Tell me, by chance, is “iffen” the Hebrew translation for dupe? Hmm.. To say asshole in Russian, they say “DOO-PAH.”
Maybe your multi linguist ventriloquist Sam The Sham really knows “iffen” means dupe / doo-pah and he’s yet to break the bad news to you? (Sigh) After neo-con prayer time’s up, maybe The Sham will slither down from the rafters and proclaim what is the dismal meaning of “iffen.”
Selah Thomas L. Friedman Mnuchin usury
access to universities and government positions - they are a separate race, deserving of special status
within Israel - they are white and all of a sudden proudly European, and disgusted by immigrants
when seeking upscale housing and social status benefits, they are 110% white.
when denouncing American Nationalists, they are a separate race of wise and learned individuals
when supporting unrestricted immigration in the US, they are white people with a conscious
when applying for welfare benefits in New jersey and New York, completely separate race and oppressed minority,
They are chameleons that manipulate every other group they interact act with.
They are the wolf in sheep's clothing
Speaking of the Ashkenazi, they are white only when its convenient and to their advantage
access to universities and government positions
It’s like Mexicans and being ‘American’.
Mexicans in the US will often say they are NOT American as it means ‘gringo’ or ‘yanqui imperialist’. They are proudly Mexican.
But if say they should go back to Mexico, they say “I’m just as American as you, bro.”
Thanks Phil for your noble effort in trying to prevent this absurd war with Iran from happening by drawing attention to the agitators, who are the usual suspects.
Iran or Charlottesville, it’s Jewish Supremacism in action.
Israel has nukes and no inspections. Israel stole US secrets. US carried out USS Liberty attack. Israel worked with Pollard to sell US secrets to the Soviets. During the Cold War, Jews slipped Stalin the secret of the Bomb. Neocon Jews instigated all these wars that have destroyed so much.
BUT we are supposed to pretend Iran is the great terrorist aggressor while Israel is a this poor beleaguered state. And Jewish Neocons, the top warmongers of the world, get to play the role of ‘human rights’ champions.
In Charlottesville, white patriots assembled legally under US laws. Jewish mayor violated their rights. Police turned on them. The state let Antifa thugs attack Alt Right people.
But Alt Right is ‘nazi’ and ‘terrorist’ and the aggressors. Meanwhile, even the loathsome Antifa scum are lionized as heroes akin to US soldiers who stormed Normandy.
Iranians and whites have been Palestinianized. In a way, whites deserve some of this. Why? Palestinians never did them any wrong, but whites aided Zionist destruction of Palestine and laughed at all those Palestinians living under tyranny. Poetic justice. Whites who mocked Palestinians in their service to Jewish Power are now being Palestinianized by the same Jews.
or to some other organizations/groups with whom your point of view coalesces?--> form small groups of Unz Forum habitués to host events, from the salon/living room level to our churches and libraries, where sound information can be presented? --> if more of us come out of the closet, put our own "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" on the line, as you have?
We've seen all sorts of groups come "out of the closet." How about those of us who truly believe in "America First," and that American policy AND AMERICAN HISTORY should have an equal voice in the public square, summon the courage to "Out" ourselves, ADL & its intimidation tactics be damned. Make it the next new movement.
You've taken the vanguard position, Phil. The least we can do is fall in behind you or better yet, beside you.
Great post, S2, and great timing. Last night Cynthia McKinney did a long interview about her UNRIG campaign, also recounting crossing swords with the Israel Lobby. UNRIG started out as more general opposition to Deep State, but after being attacked/harassed it’s become a little more like LFTL.
Cynthia’s program of ‘power cells’ — cutting progressive/conservative divides — reminds me of your proposal for deep study groups. Join forces? Use contact@unrig.net
A Talk with Cynthia Mckinney | Israeli Lobby and Awangate
There sits an Arab, smoking his hookah,
Even if it begun in Siberia,
Or in Hollywood, with Hava Nagilah.
-Me'ir Arielwhile clinging to those same Semitic - Abrahamic roots that marked them as "Chosen" and conveyed to them title to that plot of land where they transplanted their European fantasy-utopia, and simultaneously persuading themselves that they are "blood brothers" to the Persian empire, per Yossi Alpher. Now, realize that in exchange for a few pieces of silver, US legislators give to these deeply identity-conflicted people access to information as well as the most sophisticated weapons in the world, and that they have more nuclear weapons than anybody knows about, and Kim Jong-Un begins to look like a model partner: at least Kim knows who he is and what his cultural roots are.
Thank you for your intelligent response. Truth and ACTUAL facts are kryptonite to the Jew Trolls.
Thanks for sharing, RobinG
As you know, I’m a big fan of Cynthia McKinney.
I’m about half way through the interview and I was delighted that she devoted a bit of time to discussing Phil’s article (she inadvertently attributed authorship to Robert Parry, for some reason).
At any rate, she also freely discussed the pledge issue, stating that funding for her reelection campaign dried up after refusing to sign the pledge of support for Israel.
Given CM’s proven track record for integrity and her obvious integrity, although it sounds outlandish, I think these pledge forms might actually exist.
What a bombshell it would be if someone actually produced a signed copy and uploaded it on the Internet?
Having grown up in the mixed French- Anglo Saxon culture of Montreal Canada in the 1960's (before the era of the neocons), I was exposed to similar Zionist conspiracy theories espoused by so-called friends, colleagues and teachers. The specific themes may have been different, but the focus was always the same .... Jews control this and that, they caused all our wars, etc. etc. I could never dissect the source of this invective, which I found even in folks who, previous to myself, had never met a Jew in their life. G-d forbid, these were all armchair warriors, none of whom had put their lives at risk for their country.
A brief read of Mr Giraldi's previous articles clearly exposes this 'eminent' historian's ingenuous manipulation, distortion and omission of historical facts regarding Jews in general and Zionism is particular.
Yes, Jewish Americans are prominent neocons. They also excel as researchers in physics and biology, as engineers, entertainers, movie moguls, financiers, software programmers, writers, benefactors of universities, hospitals and the poor, .... you name it, far out of proportion to their representation in the general population. As for controlling the media, just read the New York Times or watch CNN ... 'friends of Israel???
In WW II, 550,000 Jewish men and women served in the American armed forces. At that time, Jewish Americans comprised 4.3% of the total armed forces, while representing 3.3% of the total population. Jewish fighters included 2,000 young men, refugees from Germany before 1939, who were attached to the spearhead of each America fighting unit, from Normandy to the final defeat of Germany. 11,000 Jewish Americans gave their lives for the USA defending democracy.
Today, young Israeli soldiers spend three years of their lives, immediately after high school, on the front line of defense of democratic values and freedom for the western world. These young people are not armchair warriors. They hold political views from the left to the right of the political spectrum. Since 1948, nearly 10,000 Israeli soldiers sacrificed their lives to defend their country, equivalent to some 500,000 American lives. The number of civilians killed in terrorist attacks is in the thousands.
As for Israel-Palestine-Iran, we are witnessing today in North Korea the danger of nuclear weapons in a rogue state threatening to destroy America. Why, Iran espouses this venomous invective against Israel on a daily basis. Does Israel not have the right to defend its interests as does America?
Palestine already exists. For the attention of Mr Giraldi, it is called Jordan and comprises 74% of the British Mandate, a country gifted as the booby prize to an Arab sheikh in 1922.
Arguably, Israel has done more for American security in the past decade than all of America's other allies together. The $3B in military aid granted to Israel is used to procure armaments in the USA, while the joint development of anti-missile technology, active armor, drone development and cyber counter-terrorism technologies, have and will save lives and grant to both Americans and Israelis the ability to plan near and long-term defense strategies for mutual benefit. The cost of these programs pales in comparison to the hundreds of billions of dollars spent from America's annual defense budget to station forces in South Korea, Japan, and Europe.
Israeli technology, in the fields of science, medicine, biology, communication, and even autonomous cars, has contributed enormously to the American economy, adding thousands of jobs, high salaries and enormous initiative for future development and well-being.
As for TV screens, I would sincerely suggest that every time Mr Giraldi gives an interview the following label should pop up: “Warning: the commentator is a rabid hater of Jews and Israel".
Finally, and certainly not the least important part of my message ...... it is not the rich, powerful Jewish lobby paying Mr Giraldi's bills. I suspect that funding comes from off-shore sources, all with a nefarious goal in mind and not necessarily serving America's best interests. In whose pockets is he, this man?
Excuse me, Mr Giraldi, for my conspiracy theory!
like sitting by and watching 3000 Americans get incinerated while the Israeli Mossad agents filmed it and celebrated dancing and high fiving?
is that what all those billions of dollars of aid the Americans who died on that day were paying for?
“it’s very good”
Hey Phil,
Which of the perps over at The American Cuckservative banned you? My bet it was Saint Rod the Holy.
I assume we will be limiting the leadership in question to geographical limits of the United States. Foreign entities may influence actions but leadership is submitted to be a different element.
Perhaps AIPAC or rabbi/religious groups may be mentioned, but I would suggest Wall Street bankers as having a dominate influence in the manifestation of social changes in our society. In my opinion, they have induced the United States into every military conflict—either for their economic gain, to destroy imagined religious infidels, or to provide cover for their nefarious acts---for 120 years. Their use of the CIA to assist and initiate the military actions has been documented by Perkins, Blum, Kinzer, Talbot, Valentine, Prouty, and others. Their impoverishment of nations as a deliberate agenda for decades has been documented by Chossudovsky and is prominently visible in Greece.
They are alleged to surreptitiously receive trillions of dollars from the United States using the Rothschild Ponzi scheme but unfortunately the effort has failed to gain traction. The scheme appears to be an obvious and inescapable embezzlement. Ref. https://www.scribd.com/document355085824 . Embezzlement by Federal Reserve--document 355085824 The fraudulent National debt developed by this scheme has been projected to impoverish the United States in the same manner as in Greece but WS successfully avoids public identification of their scheme.
It is submitted the funding, and leadership, of the Zionist movement and the establishment of Israel is in Manhattan.
that would be a mistake IMHO
the ultimate leadership of the Jews, so to speak, it the House of Rothschild- the International bankster who basically owns or controls the world’s central banks
add to that the Orthodox Jewish rabbis in the Israeli Knesset, and their ugly poodle- Israel’s putative leader Bibi, and you’re a lot closer to the ‘leadership of the Jews’ than anything being done by the Jews who operate (for Rothschild) our Federal Reserve Bank or the minions on Wall Street and Hollywood.
I fully respect your perspective, but I’d posit that it’s really in London, and has been for centuries.
what was that the Rothschild matriarch said, ‘if my sons don’t want war, there’d be no war’, or something like that.
anyways, I see your point
Peace.
Hey Talha,
not just a right, but a duty and obligation to protect their families and nation from an illegal and aggressive invasion based on lies.
But there is a reason we call it the ZUSA, and that because we’re also supposed to consider ourselves as ‘exceptional, just like the Zionist Jews do, as they murder and steal other people’s land.
and to point out that it’s wrong to murder people and steal their land, is now considered ‘anti-Semitic, and heresy, and you can be fired from your job at the kosher TAC.
it’s really amazing, and like Mr. Unz points out, we’re all supposed to look at the sky and remark at how pretty the color green is, and how blue are all the trees, and how Iraqis have no right to defend their nation from criminal and unjustified attack.
Peace
American Conservative had a lot of Qatar propaganda. Do they get funding from Qatar? They had articles defending Qatar for aiding American imperialism (ex. Libya) like that is some noble good that trumps Qatar’s support for Salafi Jihadist that threaten the US. They were fighting to uphold the liberal international order that they thought Trump threatened.
I think this article is right but I think you should have made more clear early on that you were only discussing a small but powerful minority of Jewish Americans. Valerie Plame became Israel occupied. Shame.
The vast majority of American Jews support those bad Jews - they are also responsible for "Jew" activities. There are very very few Jews publicly speaking out against Big Jews (less then ten).
Together the Jews broke America - together they own our troubles.
Think Peace --- Art
The American Conservative should be ashamed of such "purge" because in reverse they have memorialized your Chosen Option to freely convey unwanted facts.
Ideally Pat Buchanan will nobly address the critical matter.
Lastly, I hesitate to fully accept that Valerie Plame is NOT an actress starring in CIA / Mossad black psy-ops. For me, the Zio sky is not so "blue."
Who benefits? Maybe agents who share similar passion for truth telling.
Thank you from the most inner part of my heart!
Selah.
Hey Chuck,
I hope so
It’s a conversation we all need to have.
for a people to be used so ignobly as the Americans (and others) have been and are being- to mass-murder innocents and rain down horrors upon the people of this planet is an enormity of staggering consequence, and for which there will be a heavy price to pay. Which no doubt will be born by more innocents who had nothing to do with any of these devil’s wars.
we need to point the finger at the malignant scum who’re foisting these wars; Jews and Gentiles alike. But the pall over any discussion of Jewish involvement per se, needs to end.
Kristol, Kagan, Krauthammer, and all the other sinister little shills for death and rapine must be made to answer for their crimes. And their Shabbos goys in congress too.
Cheers
Roman Catholic Pat Buchanan has written bravely and he's not getting younger.
Hope he speaks on behalf of P. Giraldi!
Thanks!
Geo, they no longer use an actual Israel-first pledge form, so it would have to be from internal AIPAC archives. Indeed, that would be Wikileaks-worthy!
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11042/plame-knew-what-she-was-tweeting
So Dershowitz regularly reads “neo-Nazi” websites. That’s entirely reasonable, no matter what his views. Why is it odd or objectionable that Plame, a former CIA agent, should read a wide range of material? She seems competent enough. I wouldn’t expect anything less.
• LOL: geokat62Listen you green toothed oompa loompa, it would help if you could afford to hire someone to explain things to you. He said he couldn't call them neo-cons because they did not self-identify as neo-cons. My point was that they are neo-cons so why not call them that. Why go the Jew route to engender attaboys from people like you.
Because then we’d be chasing shadows.
Bolsheviks, Zionists, Neo-cons, who cares? It’s the ever changing face of Judea’s PR department.
I think this article is right but I think you should have made more clear early on that you were only discussing a small but powerful minority of Jewish Americans. Valerie Plame became Israel occupied. Shame.
I think this article is right but I think you should have made more clear early on that you were only discussing a small but powerful minority of Jewish Americans.
The vast majority of American Jews support those bad Jews – they are also responsible for “Jew” activities. There are very very few Jews publicly speaking out against Big Jews (less then ten).
Together the Jews broke America – together they own our troubles.
Think Peace — Art
The article is also evidence that a majority of American Jews have an unhealthy attachment to West Asia while most Americans don't care. The 30% of American Jews that want conflict would find a better home in Israel and do not belong in the US.
I think what you are saying is that the Logos is an 'overmind' to which we are all innately linked and from which intuition springs. When the link is strong, our Logos-fed intuition naturally guides us towards value systems, cultures and legal systems that are in tune with natural law. On a societal level, everything flows naturally and there is peace.
But when the link is severed, the newly isolated beings must build their own artificial value systems based upon a self-referential complex of core beliefs such as 'we are the chosen people' and 'I think therefore I am' and 'there is no God'. As these foundations are artificial and arbitrary, subsequent thinking is freed of moral/ethical restrictions and societal depravity may arise.
It seems to me that what we're really talking about here is satanism. Rather than allow the emergence of a belief system grounded in the Logos, the satanist first rejects existent belief systems then creates a new one and keeps it levitating in mental space purely by the energy of their own conscious intent. They believe they are the true masters of the universe and hone their metal abilities to create and maintain mental realities in accordance with their ego's desire. They fool themselves, and lots of other people too.
So then, is exile from Israel a metaphor for the satanist's mental departure from the Logos?
Thank you for the thoughtful response.
The concept of Satan never played a large role in my thinking.
I do rely on a lecture I heard about Francis Bacon, said to be a father of the Enlightenment. Bacon insisted that the basis for knowledge — or the “first premise” in a logical argument (syllogism) — should be derived from observations of nature, not from authority (where authority, in Bacon’s time, meant the Church).
Anyway, Bacon liked to create metaphors and similes. He said there are three types of thinkers, Ants, Spiders, and Bees. Ants are very diligent, they scurry around gathering (information) but they do not put it to effective use.
Spiders draw upon a substance within themselves to spin theories and ideas; they do not necessarily relate to reality or truth (Truth being The Mind’s Assent to Reality).
Bees also are very busy about gathering nectar (information) from nature, which they take to an organizing center where it is put in its proper place and put to creative use. (Spoiler Alert: Bees = the ideal Enlightenment thinker).
When Ron Suskind quoted someone in the Bush White House as having said, “We create reality . . .” — I thought, That is Spider thinking. And I believe Jews specialize in Spider thinking: they are very creative; they firmly believe that the web woven in their brains IS reality. But it often is not supported by the evidence of nature.
I think you're exactly spot on with the Jew/Spider Thinking metaphor. Perhaps this is why they've been expelled from gentile lands so many times (over 100?) throughout history. At first, they're clever and successful but eventually the web they weave is so out of tune with reality that the Logos-connected natives rise up and rebel. All cleverness and no common sense!
Bacon was a huge influence on me, and a towering philosophical thinker, imho
Cheers
Anyway, Bacon liked to create metaphors and similes. He said there are three types of thinkers, Ants, Spiders, and Bees. Ants are very diligent, they scurry around gathering (information) but they do not put it to effective use.
Spiders draw upon a substance within themselves to spin theories and ideas; they do not necessarily relate to reality or truth (Truth being The Mind's Assent to Reality).
Bees also are very busy about gathering nectar (information) from nature, which they take to an organizing center where it is put in its proper place and put to creative use. (Spoiler Alert: Bees = the ideal Enlightenment thinker).When Ron Suskind quoted someone in the Bush White House as having said, "We create reality . . ." -- I thought, That is Spider thinking. And I believe Jews specialize in Spider thinking: they are very creative; they firmly believe that the web woven in their brains IS reality. But it often is not supported by the evidence of nature.
I mentioned satanism because it seems to be about creating reality through one’s own will without acknowledging a higher truth. My understanding is based on reading Anton Lavey and Aliester Crowley. Both of them were basically rebels against corrupt religion and threw the baby (Logos) out with the bath water (Christianity). I think Francis Bacon would deem them to be spiders!
I think you’re exactly spot on with the Jew/Spider Thinking metaphor. Perhaps this is why they’ve been expelled from gentile lands so many times (over 100?) throughout history. At first, they’re clever and successful but eventually the web they weave is so out of tune with reality that the Logos-connected natives rise up and rebel. All cleverness and no common sense!
So I have noted that the great Phillip Giraldi has touched a nerve when mentioning the obvious with things related to US foreign policy economic ,and social policy how jews or me being one myself let us be frank fake jews the Ashkenazi , I myself am of Sephardic . Great Youtube video noting that 10 out of 11 members of his administration are Ashkenazi and one sephardic. Hence Phillip Giraldi as well as Robert Perry when they speak truth with verifiable facts askanazi’s come out of the woodwork and start throwing their bile at people who use reason and logic along with verifiable facts and start insulting them gas lighting them. I will share another great verifiable fact that most westerners tend to not know. anglo-zionism was invented by British and European old oligarchical class in the late 18and early 19th century that is why it is referenced as anglo-zionism Theodore Herzl is always referenced as the father of Zionism when in reality sionism SION was devised and invented in England by the oligarchs of the British Empire and banking families of old Europe. Herzl like most things related to Israel or judaism is fabricated lies. MOSSAD MOTO BY DECEPTION YOU MAY WAGE WAR.
Docius in Fundem last but not least Lincoln and Mckinley’s assassins were connected to anglo-zionist Rothschild agents.
As Tolstoy use 2 say history would be a wonderful thing if only it was true. Victors write history never the vanquished. Here is another truth. in Israel proper 90 percent of Israeli jews are of Ashkenazi DNA they r as semitic as the inuits. Ashkanazi’s are of Turkic origins. Facts are facts and especially when they r verifiable.
It's a conversation we all need to have.
for a people to be used so ignobly as the Americans (and others) have been and are being- to mass-murder innocents and rain down horrors upon the people of this planet is an enormity of staggering consequence, and for which there will be a heavy price to pay. Which no doubt will be born by more innocents who had nothing to do with any of these devil's wars.
we need to point the finger at the malignant scum who're foisting these wars; Jews and Gentiles alike. But the pall over any discussion of Jewish involvement per se, needs to end.
Kristol, Kagan, Krauthammer, and all the other sinister little shills for death and rapine must be made to answer for their crimes. And their Shabbos goys in congress too.
Cheers
Rurik,
Roman Catholic Pat Buchanan has written bravely and he’s not getting younger.
Hope he speaks on behalf of P. Giraldi!
Thanks!
All Americans are perfectly capable, in fact, rather good at lobbying for whatever cause/agenda motivates them. The real question, which Iffen has been asking, and you have skirted, remains the crucial one.
I reiterate my position that while you condemn all Jews [manifestly diverse in their political philosophies] of “Israel firsting”, your fallback position is girded by the writings of many Jews, while your cynical j’accuse! features exclusively Jews, no matter their stripe.
[Time for hibernation for all good woodchucks.]
Who’s going to drive the school-bus? What of the Donuts at Dunkin, shall we leave a few in Woodchuck’s burrow for the winter?
• LOL: geokat62Listen you green toothed oompa loompa, it would help if you could afford to hire someone to explain things to you. He said he couldn't call them neo-cons because they did not self-identify as neo-cons. My point was that they are neo-cons so why not call them that. Why go the Jew route to engender attaboys from people like you.
Enoch Peinovich has no use for explanations-schmecplanations!
Anyway, Bacon liked to create metaphors and similes. He said there are three types of thinkers, Ants, Spiders, and Bees. Ants are very diligent, they scurry around gathering (information) but they do not put it to effective use.
Spiders draw upon a substance within themselves to spin theories and ideas; they do not necessarily relate to reality or truth (Truth being The Mind's Assent to Reality).
Bees also are very busy about gathering nectar (information) from nature, which they take to an organizing center where it is put in its proper place and put to creative use. (Spoiler Alert: Bees = the ideal Enlightenment thinker).When Ron Suskind quoted someone in the Bush White House as having said, "We create reality . . ." -- I thought, That is Spider thinking. And I believe Jews specialize in Spider thinking: they are very creative; they firmly believe that the web woven in their brains IS reality. But it often is not supported by the evidence of nature.
great post S2C, as usual
Bacon was a huge influence on me, and a towering philosophical thinker, imho
Cheers
This article/thread should be published! geokat62, jacques sheete, Mike Johnson, even our sounding board Sam have all offered important perspectives.
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This thread's too long already. Perhaps in a shorter article Priss Factor will connect his/her earlier explanation of the Rainbow Flag displacing the US flag; with the removal of the Confederate flag and monuments, and then with this latest stunt involving football players and to Flag or not to Flag. If the Confederate flag can be banned, then so can the Stars and Stripes. What will replace it?
Roman Catholic Pat Buchanan has written bravely and he's not getting younger.
Hope he speaks on behalf of P. Giraldi!
Thanks!
Maybe you and Rurik should be writing to Pat instead of opining on a 1000 comment thread that he’ll never read.
a roiling tempest of truth that is as unstoppable as it is momentous!
Try as he might, Pat Buchanan can not ignore it anymore than he can ignore the sun coming up
this 1000+ comment thread is but a puzzle piece in the burgeoning truth~ epoch-altering passage that will mark humanity's and the earth's moment in time from its cultural revolutionary and evolutionary chrysalis, from catatonic slumber to full awakening!
no one, not Pat Buchanan nor the Pope nor Methuselah nor Mordecai can ignore this portentous moment in human tragedy and hope.
the stars are aligned, the ancients are stirred, the Biblical and Quranic and Lord Rama Himself are all eyes and wonderment as this harrowing moment in the travails and antics of human affairs.
we are all uniquely blessed at this opportunity to be part of this ineffable time of celestial veracity
a turning and a quiescence
a simple prayer for truth and love and beauty, heard
and answered
The reason Jewish lineage is thru the mother has nothing to do with genes, but everything to do to the fact that we always know who the babies’ mother is, but cannot 100% confirm who the father is (today we can, but years ago we couldn’t).
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Have you ever read the following document created by a Jew named Oded Yinon? The document is called, “A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s.” It outlines the Middle Eastern countries Israel wants to destroy in order to gain more land – the “promise land” as the Jews call it.
The countries are Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia. One country down, and five more to go!
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The%20Zionist%20Plan%20for%20the%20Middle%20East.pdf
Docius in Fundem last but not least Lincoln and Mckinley's assassins were connected to anglo-zionist Rothschild agents.
As Tolstoy use 2 say history would be a wonderful thing if only it was true. Victors write history never the vanquished. Here is another truth. in Israel proper 90 percent of Israeli jews are of Ashkenazi DNA they r as semitic as the inuits. Ashkanazi's are of Turkic origins. Facts are facts and especially when they r verifiable.
Thank you for writing the truth. I recently came across two Jewish men, who like you, are telling the truth. The first is Dr. Eran Elkaik who did his research and discovered the Ashkanazi DNA is not from the Middle East, but Khazaria bloodline (Eastern European). They are Turkothean Mongoloids and not Semites. The second is Sholmo Sand, who wrote the book, “The Invention of the Jewish People.” His book also outlines the bloodline to Khazars.
I think that it is obvious that one can't get to be a genuine notable figure making these "factual" claims and if some such figure were to come out of the closet and make these claims he wouldn't be a notable figure much longer.
iffen says:
hilarious that Mr. G exposed the vile duplicity of this ‘I’m not a Jew!!!’ person, who goes around relentlessly insisting that it’s not “dem Jews” who wield power, and it’s unacceptable to point it out when it is ‘dem Jews’
but then exposes his own trite attempt at guile by admitting that anyone who tells the truth about Jewish power is excommunicated post haste.
it’s like when CNN news anchor Rick Sanchez mentioned Jews run the network, he was canned on the spot, proving that yes, Jews do own and run the networks, and will suffer no criticism as such.
but you have these pathetic shills running around demanding that there’s no consolidated Jewish identity politics at CNN or other (obviously Jewish owned and dominated) networks, and that Jewish ownership and control has ZERO!! to do with any content or any reporting on Israel/Palestine or the serial wars America is forced to fight on behalf of Israel, and any suggestion that it (Jewish ownership) does, it nothing less than the ranting of hatred-consumed Nazis and anti-Semites!!!!
by their actions, like firing Mr. G from TAC, they only prove how right he is!
Mr. G, like Joseph Sobran, and so many, many others, simply posses too much integrity as men of character to participate in the shabby fraud, and refuse to bleat the platitudes about the ‘emperor’s fine and flowing raiment – that one must never, never mention ‘dem Jews’.
And the paradigm that they’ve set up carefully over generations is to equate any criticism of the actions of some Jews, as a criticism of ALL Jews everywhere, as if because of the Holocaust, all Jews everywhere are immune to any criticism- because they’re Jews. Which doesn’t leave a lot of wiggle room when it’s *obvious* that many Jews who own our media or dominate our financial system – use that power to help other Jews gain power and privilege and position, and often steer our ship of state in ways that are harmful for non-Jews. But you’re not allowed to point that out. And if you do, it can only mean you’re a closet Himmler who wants to gas all Jews.
So it’s like a pressure cooker, where the outrages of some Jews can never be pointed out, until it simmers and roils under the surface. And one day explodes on the scene, as it did in Germany and other places in history.
why not just have an honest conversation about Jewish power, and give them credit when they deserve it, and criticism when it’s valid?
[…] of the CIA Philip Giraldi, explained how American Jews have been pushing for a war with Iran. He wrote that these people “have been very successful at faking the Iranian threat, so much so that […]
I suspect you want a point-by-point debate of your comment.
Not gonna do it.
That was one reason for the brief, unembroidered mention that Mukasey is Jewish: it's a simple, true (but pregnant) fact that provided a droll response to what I thought was an unhinged, almost hysterical rant. End of my investment in the discussion.
You addressed Ron. Maybe he'll take the bait, but if I were you, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Phil highlighted geokat62's comment that shone a spotlight on your unintended, or subconscious proof that Phil's thesis is correct: you complained that discussion of Jewish involvement in America's wars was being conducted in a way that might cause harm to Jews. You harangued Ron for not being worried about Jews.
geokat62 focused on the destructive aspect of the wars themselves, and on the reality that a million or more innocent people have died and entire states are in turmoil and ruin, for generations; that is the important reality to confront.
You are worried about a hypothetical, older Jew in New York City being harmed by words typed by an anonymous, amorphous blogger.
To borrow a phrase Frank Luntz might love, there does not seem to be a moral equivalence between your concerns and geokat62's.
I really wasn't thinking about the "counting Jews" part of your comment: I guess you were focusing on a comparative head-count aspect, trying to make the point that a lot of the people who are behind decisions to go to war are not Jewish, and that is certainly true.
But why is USA so entangled in that part of the world in the first place? See comments #783 and #846 http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/americas-jews-are-driving-americas-wars/#comment-2017858 : USA is involved in MENA because of fanatical Jabotinskyites who, at the Jonathan Institute in July 1979 rolled out the blueprint for the Global War on Terror.
The Jonathan Institute was established to memorialize Jonathan Netanyahu, who died in the Israeli raid on Entebbe on July 4, 1976: the date was not a mere coincidence: Israelis believe that that raid on the day that USA was celebrating its 200th anniversary of independence was Israel's declaration of its status as co-equal guardian of "liberty and democracy." The July 1979 conference in Jerusalem documented that status.
In July, 1979 the Shah was still in (tenuous) power in Iran; Iran was not a focus of the Conference -- Arafat and PLO were the major sources of 'terrorism.'
However -- if you want to understand the complexity and intensity of Bibi's animus toward Iran, consider this scenario: Jonathan Netanyahu was Bibi's older brother and the apple of his father's eye. After his death Benzion worshipped his son like a martyr; in fact, Israel views Jonathan as a national hero-martyr; his collected letters have acquired the stature of Anne Frank's diary. Benjamin was studying at Columbia when Jonathan died; he left the USA and returned to Israel where he and his father set up the Jonathan Institute. There is also a shrine to Jonathan in Philadelphia, where the Netanyahus grew up. (It was also in Philadelphia -- in Independence Hall -- that the American Jewish Congress was formed in 1918.)
Jonathan was wounded at Entebbe because he did something stupid. Ephraim Sneh was the medic on the Entebbe team; he failed to save Jonathan's life. Think about that: if you're the guy who presided over the death of Israel's major martyr, what do you do to redeem yourself? Sneh was elected to Knesset and became one of the earliest and most vocal and persistent critics of Iran. It was Sneh who introduced to the Knesset the notion that Iran's nuclear capabilities should be eradicated. All of these emotionally charged events bled into each other and dramatically shaped Bibi Netanyahu.
It is fanciful to suppose that Netanyahu will change his stripes: he is psychologically bound to his crazy father, and Benzion Netanyahu was Jabotinsky's spokesperson and adroit political operative in NYC when Revisionist zionist steamrollered American Jewry. Bibi can as readily turn his back on that generational legacy as Eli Weisel could turn the holocaust museum into a sports bar.
BTW Check out Mukasey's background. He fits the definition of 'fanatical Jabotinskyite.'
You wrote a great deal, equal parts pet propaganda, misrepresentation of my post, and downthread, the farcical travel back in Time of a thousand years.
You know full well that words ‘[..]typed by an anonymous, amorphous blogger.‘ are not the literal concern over which I spend fretful minutes; words cannot break a bone. It is, on the other hand, the inspiration which a true believer of tenancy in this space who might jolly well assume the burden of carrying out the logical endgame which concerns me. This is not a mere isolated piece, nor a sporadic one; it is the unsurprising instalment of an unbroken theme which permeates Mr Giraldi’s writing, as well those populating the commentary section: the ‘undercurrent’ Plame failed to realise initially, yet to her credit, corrected in the end.
What prompts your belief, Mukasey, a sufficiently waspy sounding name, was a nescient insertion? It was – my laughter afterwards one would’ve thought ample clue – a deliberate inclusion, and true to form he was smoked out!
The highlighted comment you refer to, without circumlocution, was entirely self-serving. That, my dear S2C, is what must be crystal clear to anyone with even a brief familiarity of the proceedings here: this favourite corner of like-minded “patriots”.
I am familiar with the Jonathan Institute. Yes, it is the pet project of Netanyahu and a coterie of individuals with an equal interest in terrorism as in simoleon. So, I suffer no delusions. It is, like so many other institutes, little toadstools appearing after the rain. They all blot the landscape, these institutes from all sides of the spectrum, and I hardly think it is the first of its particular purpose. Lord Chalfont and Gillian Baker, veterans of the terrorism industry in the U.K, both wrote of the media’s role in these matters and were, I believe, associated with Bibi’s little gig. None of it is especially remarkable. But of course, you discover some deep plan for world domination. I am reading the Protocols, which when I am done with, will be sure to put to good use formulating my own stratagem.
Bibi, I keep repeating, is a melodramatic queen. Whether he has any true animus toward Iran, I cannot say; but I doubt it. He is merely trying to hold his Black-hat coalition together.
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
She had a little help – like every Jew terrorist in America breathing down her back!
Within an hour she was on her knees begging for her cultural life.
Another good American succumbs to Jew terror – how very sad.
Think Peace --- Art
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
Hmm - what are you going to call your new reeducation gulag like you Jews ran in Russia?
I can see it now – Camp Holocaust – Unz Review Division.
Think Peace --- Art
I lean toward an intentional orchestrated “outing.”
I commented before that he writes a sanitized version at TAC which you attributed to editorial control.
Evidently you have been reading his work for several years and have a better perspective.
All in all, educational and interesting.
The vast majority of American Jews support those bad Jews - they are also responsible for "Jew" activities. There are very very few Jews publicly speaking out against Big Jews (less then ten).
Together the Jews broke America - together they own our troubles.
Think Peace --- Art
If a majority of American Jews support such policies then that data should be clearly cited so they can’t weasel their way out of it. What percentage of American Jews? 30%, 50%, 99%, 100%, including the research data to back it up? Here is an article saying about 30% of American Jews have evil intentions on Iran: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/27/jewish-americans-support-the-iran-nuclear-deal/?utm_term=.abccbc27aacf
The article is also evidence that a majority of American Jews have an unhealthy attachment to West Asia while most Americans don’t care. The 30% of American Jews that want conflict would find a better home in Israel and do not belong in the US.
The Chosen have no shame and no dignity. They use the US as a host. Here is an illustration (simplified) of the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdY
we’re part of a zeitgeist Robin
a roiling tempest of truth that is as unstoppable as it is momentous!
Try as he might, Pat Buchanan can not ignore it anymore than he can ignore the sun coming up
this 1000+ comment thread is but a puzzle piece in the burgeoning truth~ epoch-altering passage that will mark humanity’s and the earth’s moment in time from its cultural revolutionary and evolutionary chrysalis, from catatonic slumber to full awakening!
no one, not Pat Buchanan nor the Pope nor Methuselah nor Mordecai can ignore this portentous moment in human tragedy and hope.
the stars are aligned, the ancients are stirred, the Biblical and Quranic and Lord Rama Himself are all eyes and wonderment as this harrowing moment in the travails and antics of human affairs.
we are all uniquely blessed at this opportunity to be part of this ineffable time of celestial veracity
a turning and a quiescence
a simple prayer for truth and love and beauty, heard
and answered
Was no real escape from Robing's admonishment for me to nudge Patrick Buchanan to offer thought on the TAC purge of Phil Giraldi.
So moments ago, I went to Mr. Buchanan's official web site and found out reader comments are made by Facebook.
(Sigh) RobinG's assessment is likely correct that "he (P.B.) will never read" all the comments posted on this article, understandably perhaps that he hasn't enough time to do so.
In comparison, & speaking as a school bus driver, I have neither time nor the will to devote to Facebook conversations.
Doubtless, Patrick Buchanan has neither time nor a will to look at my mug while I transport kids to places where they ought "hit the books."
That's the way it goes, Rurik.
However, while on the topic of books, Mr. Buchanan advertises his latest work, "The Greatest Comeback," on his web site. And fans can get an autographed copy! (Sigh) I want to read the book, but for me, P.B.'s greatest comeback-at- 'em will be an Irish-American Catholic issuance of a salty opinion on what deep throated slit TAC gave Mr. Giraldi.
Thank both you and Robing.
Remember when Trump grabbed his ankles for AIPAC during his campaign….as an outsider to this whole Jew thing…I found that shocking. Leaders don’t get up and give speeches to any other countries during their campaigns?
Why just Israel? Why not Nigeria? Japan? Iceland?
Isn’t that kinda strange?
This opened my eyes to the whole Jew thing…..made me take notice that there may be something (((there))).
The open paragraph of this article now mentions how Mr. Giraldi has been purged by The American Conservative Magazine (TAC) for writing it.
Is this the very same The American Conservative Magazine which had previously withdrawn a job offer that it had been made to the late, very heroic and then destitute Joseph Sobran because Joe had simply appeared as a paid speaker before groups that The Anti Defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center had deemed less than sensitive to Jewish sensibilities?
Yes, it most definitely is
I guess and weak knees are again in fashion.
When Mr. Gilardi was purged by TAC, he joined Joe Sobran is some truly sainted company.
The person most responsible for Sobran’s purging was most likely the then TAC editor, Avon cosmetic heir, and society dilettante Scott McConnell.
The person most likely responsible for Gilardi’s current purging is apparently current TAC editor Robert Merry. I can imagine Merry having to literally go home to change his underwear after having crapped in his pants as a result of the abject terror experienced while reading Gilardi’s article. Merry’s decision to rid himself of Gilardi was undoubtedly and enthusiastically supported and encouraged by the truly execrable, increasingly politically correct, and now virtually totally unreadable TAC writer Rod Dreher.
Keep all those names in mind for future reference: McConnell, Merry, Dreher. I know I will.,
Why do supposedly patriotic sites seem cave into such pressure.to time after time again ? Because TAC and sites like Antiwar.com get lazy and begin accepting large donations from mysterious and often very dubious groups and people whose only real desire is to seek to control these sites’ editorial content. Needless to say, these large contributors often also seem to also often have a rather avid affection for Israel.
Once they started drinking from this poisonous financial trough, their future is doomed, and like TAC (or increasingly, Antiwar.com) they become tainted, irrelevant, and increasingly untrustworthy.
Here is a further example of this type of corruption. Alex Soros (George’s son and heir) is now apparently a major financial supporter of the online civil rights group The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). One of his Alex Soros’s employees, Brian Behlendorf, is now chairman of the board of EFF.
Scary indeed!
Scroll down
http://tau-investment.com/en_US/team/alexander-soros/
https://www.eff.org/about/board (scroll down to Behlendorf)
Here is an example of a charity entirely funded by Alex and George Soros . Read how the site claims it was behind the firing of Bannon et al.
http://www.jewishaction.us/
As we all know, if anyone criticizes Israel or Jewish influence in US war policy, the very next step is the holocaust of all the world’s Jews.
Thus we can’t have an open and honest discussion of AIPAC/Jewish influence, because it always leads to genocide.
I mean just look, back in the 1990s both Buchanan and Samuel Francis were speaking critically of AIPAC and the ethnic tribalist neocons and just look at the millions of American Jews that were exterminated because of that.
just as Unz's own geokat62 (Geo) posts irrefutable and authoritative scholarly tomes pointing out that Mr. Giraldi's article not only has merit, but is of dire and imperative importance today, as we're on the brink of even more wars for Israel, only to have another commenter here accusing him of being a 'pellet-dropping Nazi, (or some such idiocy), implying Geo is motivated by genocidal hatred for all Jews- simply for speaking the obvious truth about Jewish/neocon war mongering and treachery.
they've created this paradigm wherein any and all criticism of any Jews = Adolf Hitler and gas chambers
even as Gaza burns and Syria hemorrhages the blood of untold innocents
we're all supposed to dutifully bow our collective heads over the 'suffering of the Jews', as if we're all eternally guilty and they're all eternally victims, as they demand billions more in armaments to genocide the Palestinians with
http://dy00k1db5oznd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Sheldon-Adelson.png
You were on spot.
Thus we can't have an open and honest discussion of AIPAC/Jewish influence, because it always leads to genocide.
I mean just look, back in the 1990s both Buchanan and Samuel Francis were speaking critically of AIPAC and the ethnic tribalist neocons and just look at the millions of American Jews that were exterminated because of that.
exactly!
just as Unz’s own geokat62 (Geo) posts irrefutable and authoritative scholarly tomes pointing out that Mr. Giraldi’s article not only has merit, but is of dire and imperative importance today, as we’re on the brink of even more wars for Israel, only to have another commenter here accusing him of being a ‘pellet-dropping Nazi, (or some such idiocy), implying Geo is motivated by genocidal hatred for all Jews- simply for speaking the obvious truth about Jewish/neocon war mongering and treachery.
they’ve created this paradigm wherein any and all criticism of any Jews = Adolf Hitler and gas chambers
even as Gaza burns and Syria hemorrhages the blood of untold innocents
we’re all supposed to dutifully bow our collective heads over the ‘suffering of the Jews’, as if we’re all eternally guilty and they’re all eternally victims, as they demand billions more in armaments to genocide the Palestinians with
Hey iffen,
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn’t being abused now, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people – I’m not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the “green men” calling for war in outer space…the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy – is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region – or to help establish “Greater Armenia”, then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem – for people like me – are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making – and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn’t these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world – we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that’s not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That’s not to say there aren’t Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is – they’re just fairly marginalized. And it doesn’t let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I’m fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt – and if people like me had ours, we’d open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
other questions are bound to arise, e.g., who decides the "integrity" of the Jew in question? Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison? In which world did that happen? Those were words straight out of the Volkisher Beobachter!
Let’s put that aside and assume that the Jews are making bad decisions with regard to the ME. They are citizens and we are stuck with their bad decisions just as we benefit from their good decisions. Jews have as much right to screw up America as anyone else. This is the crux; either Jews are accepted as equal or they are not.they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down. I think that I have agreed that there are problems with the political use of the Holocaust. It’s complicated to me. I just hope that they don’t start spelling it H*******t; that would be a really bad sign.Why shouldn’t these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?Should all of the churches, organizations, businesses and families of the non-Jewish warmongers be forced to make public disavowals? Should Yale be forced to disavow Bush, etc., etc?I repeat my question. Why can’t we just name the warmongers without additional tags? In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guiltNo doubt, some would want you in the boats with them, perhaps leaky boats. :)
I want to repeat a quote from Sam’s comment. If you can’t “see” the undercurrent then you are going to have a very different view. I see the undercurrent.
Talha's right. Every time there's a Muslim gone crazy in Europe, all the local Muslim organisations disavow and carry out vigils, hand in hand with Christian natives. I'm vaguely aware of the existence of Neturei Karta and a few individuals like Finkelstein and Atzmon but I've never seen any real life acknowledgement or disavowal of the wrongdoing of Jewry. I think it's almost always denial and willful ignorance.
The article is also evidence that a majority of American Jews have an unhealthy attachment to West Asia while most Americans don't care. The 30% of American Jews that want conflict would find a better home in Israel and do not belong in the US.
Johnny, please do not pretend naiveté on this forum. Take trouble to attend any of the synagogues in the US, as well as any “cultural” events graced by Jewish luminaries, and you would hear with your own ears how, at some point, there will be a peon to Israel and a plea that all Jews must support Israel. The outliers like Gilad Atzmon are so rare that their influence is negligible. Until we see Jewish mass protests against the ziocons and their policies, the US will continue on its slaughterhouse-path in the Middle East and the Jews worldwide will be perceived as bloody murderers, on the strength of facts: http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=neoconinfluence&neoconinfluence_neoconservative_think_tanks
The Chosen have no shame and no dignity. They use the US as a host. Here is an illustration (simplified) of the process:
the ‘undercurrent’ Plame failed to realize initially, yet to her credit, corrected in the end.
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
She had a little help – like every Jew terrorist in America breathing down her back!
Within an hour she was on her knees begging for her cultural life.
Another good American succumbs to Jew terror – how very sad.
Think Peace — Art
Don't 'Think Peace' too much, G'd forbid it might have unintended consequences.
a roiling tempest of truth that is as unstoppable as it is momentous!
Try as he might, Pat Buchanan can not ignore it anymore than he can ignore the sun coming up
this 1000+ comment thread is but a puzzle piece in the burgeoning truth~ epoch-altering passage that will mark humanity's and the earth's moment in time from its cultural revolutionary and evolutionary chrysalis, from catatonic slumber to full awakening!
no one, not Pat Buchanan nor the Pope nor Methuselah nor Mordecai can ignore this portentous moment in human tragedy and hope.
the stars are aligned, the ancients are stirred, the Biblical and Quranic and Lord Rama Himself are all eyes and wonderment as this harrowing moment in the travails and antics of human affairs.
we are all uniquely blessed at this opportunity to be part of this ineffable time of celestial veracity
a turning and a quiescence
a simple prayer for truth and love and beauty, heard
and answered
Hey Rurik,
Was no real escape from Robing’s admonishment for me to nudge Patrick Buchanan to offer thought on the TAC purge of Phil Giraldi.
So moments ago, I went to Mr. Buchanan’s official web site and found out reader comments are made by Facebook.
(Sigh) RobinG’s assessment is likely correct that “he (P.B.) will never read” all the comments posted on this article, understandably perhaps that he hasn’t enough time to do so.
In comparison, & speaking as a school bus driver, I have neither time nor the will to devote to Facebook conversations.
Doubtless, Patrick Buchanan has neither time nor a will to look at my mug while I transport kids to places where they ought “hit the books.”
That’s the way it goes, Rurik.
However, while on the topic of books, Mr. Buchanan advertises his latest work, “The Greatest Comeback,” on his web site. And fans can get an autographed copy! (Sigh) I want to read the book, but for me, P.B.’s greatest comeback-at- ‘em will be an Irish-American Catholic issuance of a salty opinion on what deep throated slit TAC gave Mr. Giraldi.
Thank both you and Robing.
I am reading the Protocols, which when I am done with, will be sure to put to good use formulating my own stratagem.
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
Hmm – what are you going to call your new reeducation gulag like you Jews ran in Russia?
I can see it now – Camp Holocaust – Unz Review Division.
Think Peace — Art
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
Well, I’d have no problems putting that question to the Jewish citizens, most of whom wouldn’t have the faintest clue as to what is being asked of them, I daresay. When the question comes from someone who also wrote:
For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
other questions are bound to arise, e.g., who decides the “integrity” of the Jew in question? Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison? In which world did that happen? Those were words straight out of the Volkisher Beobachter!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg_lQNv6onw
Likewise words written or spoken by whatever Saudi prince is currently handling English-based PR.
What is wrong with full disclosure on running a label under Kristol when he speaks on TV saying, "Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel" - is this not true? I would say, make sure to add a bullet point of how he fully supported the Iraq War, Libya, etc. Why is it wrong to mention I am a Muslim (and was born in Pakistan) if I am interviewed on TV for related foreign policy subjects?
Watch this video; the **** is this guy laughing about? Do people like him think it's a joke??!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDCbM8Jcy0
Why would it be wrong to put up a label? Listen to those jerks at Fox News, they might run the label in a bragging posture.
Peace.
Please don't insult with the claim that "non-Jews do it too." Yes indeed, they do. Benjamin Ginsberg writes of how Jews linked up with east coast Anglican Protestants to gin up hatred, then war against Germany -- Charles Lindbergh was right (Ginsberg gloats in describing how Lindbergh was attacked, his character assassinated, his life made miserable.)
For at least a decade Roman Catholic Ed Royce has been fellating Orange County donkeys who must cheer when he imposes another round of sanctions on Iran, or gives another rabble-rousing speech about how evil Iran is. He's a disgrace to personhood much less Catholicism. Words can kill, and nobody has, in the past, or in the present, used words with more deadly effect than Jews. Go ahead and challenge my general statement, Sam; there's chapter a verse aplenty in those rows and rows of holocaustiana that so many "mediocre intellects" seem to delight to produce, and that our public libraries expend their budgets & shelf space on. Bring it on.
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
She had a little help – like every Jew terrorist in America breathing down her back!
Within an hour she was on her knees begging for her cultural life.
Another good American succumbs to Jew terror – how very sad.
Think Peace --- Art
How is it, dear Art, that she should have to ‘beg’ for her cultural life? So this culture, apparently controlled by the terrorists, seems to be heartily embraced by most ‘good Americans’. Any thoughts?
Don’t ‘Think Peace’ too much, G’d forbid it might have unintended consequences.
We concede the current battle of words to your brilliant brain trust.
Flippant arrogant threatening words are winning the current battles – but then, as is apparent, the other side is just waking up.
1000+ comments.
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. Every time you comment, you expose your contempt.
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
great and interesting post, Talha; thanks !
Cynthia McKinney in this interview agrees that the formal, written pledge is no longer used – instead, they will explore your political website to ensure you make similar statements and affirmations on it and, if not, then they drop your funding and support. In other words, still a backdoor way of getting you to “sign on”. See here
at ~3:30+ where she says “at that time” (ie when she was running for office) and then at ~5:07 she clarifies what I just said above. Bottom line: you still need to wholly support Israel causes, or else.
Mr. Sam Holocaust,
Hmm - what are you going to call your new reeducation gulag like you Jews ran in Russia?
I can see it now – Camp Holocaust – Unz Review Division.
Think Peace --- Art
Camp Shalom. You’ll be appointed cook, but no Pork and Beans, please.
For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
other questions are bound to arise, e.g., who decides the "integrity" of the Jew in question? Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison? In which world did that happen? Those were words straight out of the Volkisher Beobachter!
Hey Sam,
Beats me – maybe we can have a metric that we can agree to; you get to support one disastrous war and you are outed unless you disavow what you did or admit to your disastrous mistake. Dual citizenship, etc.
Words written or spoken by a Jew like Kristol should be labeled rat poison – yes. Why is this an issue? Men like him and Krauthammer are disgusting war-mongers – they are constantly trying to get us into an aggressive posture towards anybody in the Middle East that don’t conform to our imperial marching orders or are rivals to Israel. This is the definition of “entangling alliances”. Do you not see a problem here:
Likewise words written or spoken by whatever Saudi prince is currently handling English-based PR.
What is wrong with full disclosure on running a label under Kristol when he speaks on TV saying, “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel” – is this not true? I would say, make sure to add a bullet point of how he fully supported the Iraq War, Libya, etc. Why is it wrong to mention I am a Muslim (and was born in Pakistan) if I am interviewed on TV for related foreign policy subjects?
Watch this video; the **** is this guy laughing about? Do people like him think it’s a joke??!!
Why would it be wrong to put up a label? Listen to those jerks at Fox News, they might run the label in a bragging posture.
Peace.
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
Excellent comment as usual.
I’m not one of those*.
No, I don’t believe that you are. I think that the only question that I have ever had about you was some of the high-fives that you gave to some comments.
the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy – is there any doubt to this?
I don’t have any doubt that this is true.
Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of.
I don’t accept the wording “they have been.” Incompetents, extremist hawks and warmongers in general have been giving us a disastrous foreign policy. As I said in a previous comment, drop all the Jews out of the foreign policy establishment and they would be replaced by gentile warmongers before the Jews could get out of the offices and conference rooms. To my mind, even if there were no Jews in the foreign policy positions we would still have a disastrous ME policy with all its attendant wars. It is open for debate whether Israel and American Jews are driving the ME wars. (I suspect that “your”
Sunni/Shia global conflict is the main cause.) I have stated before that surely Israel would much prefer a Jordan on its border to another Lebanon. Commenter and contributor Andrei Martyanov makes a good case that Syria will come out of this war with a much improved military capability. Is this what the Jews instigated the Syrian war for? Please notice that I said this is debatable, but for many of the commenters here it is a proven point of departure.
Let’s put that aside and assume that the Jews are making bad decisions with regard to the ME. They are citizens and we are stuck with their bad decisions just as we benefit from their good decisions.
Jews have as much right to screw up America as anyone else. This is the crux; either Jews are accepted as equal or they are not.
they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
I think that I have agreed that there are problems with the political use of the Holocaust. It’s complicated to me. I just hope that they don’t start spelling it H*******t; that would be a really bad sign.
Why shouldn’t these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Should all of the churches, organizations, businesses and families of the non-Jewish warmongers be forced to make public disavowals? Should Yale be forced to disavow Bush, etc., etc?
I repeat my question. Why can’t we just name the warmongers without additional tags?
In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt
No doubt, some would want you in the boats with them, perhaps leaky boats.
I want to repeat a quote from Sam’s comment. If you can’t “see” the undercurrent then you are going to have a very different view. I see the undercurrent.
"'In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State. They don’t have the capabilities that Iran has,' Ya’alon told a conference held by the Institute of National Security Studies in Tel Aviv."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
Israeli-firsters wanted Assad gone, they didn't think he was going to survive - they certainly didn't calculate Russia. The defense minister said, it is preferable that Syria is in ruins under Daesh rather than stable and together under an Irani proxy regime - do you not see the self-serving mentality that goes into that kind of a posture? So this was a massively bad calculation on their part - I agree with Andrei. They screwed up big time!
And another note, look what the Ya'alon says:
"Many in the West refuse to acknowledge this — won’t even say ‘radical Islam,'” Ya’alon said. “Of course not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists in the world today are Muslim. We can’t ignore that."
Agreed - most of your run-of-the-mill terrorists are Muslim - I'll admit to that. So why should we ignore the Israeli connection (due to ethnicity) in many of the people that are disproportionately represented among the Necons? If we can admit to having our radicals, why can't Jews admit to having a "radical" strain among them?Agreed - what does full disclosure have anything to do with making them unequal.You do know as a member of a minority that is automatically asked to disavow anything, anytime some fool like Baghdadi sneezes, I lose absolutely zero in saying everyone should be held to the standards Muslims are held to. And yes, United Methodists did (to their credit) publicly denounced Bush and ask him to repent - sending him a message called:
“A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent"
http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19162/Additional tags can be helpful in establishing the whole picture; anything from dual citizenship, ethnic background, if one served in a foreign army, if one gets paid by foreign govts as a consultant, companies one owns stock in, religious persuasion, etc. What is wrong with full disclosure on items pertinent to the subject matter? I mean, I don't need to know what size shoe he wears or if he has a license to drive a semi or if he likes cats more than dogs.
I agree that some people have an "undercurrent" they are riding. As I said, that's not me - I'm asking for the same principles I would have applied on my community if a disproportionate number of them were similarly knee-deep.
Peace.
For those American Jews who lack any shred of integrity, the media should be required to label them at the bottom of the television screen whenever they pop up, e.g. Bill Kristol is “Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel.” That would be kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison – translating roughly as “ingest even the tiniest little dosage of the nonsense spewed by Bill Kristol at your own peril.”
other questions are bound to arise, e.g., who decides the "integrity" of the Jew in question? Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison? In which world did that happen? Those were words straight out of the Volkisher Beobachter!
“Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison? In which world did that happen? Those were words straight out of the Volkisher Beobachter! ”
Anyone who’s honest will find that, on balance, the Germans were far more honest to the facts, and less hateful, than British and Jewish-American anti-German propaganda.
words with the potential to kill should be labeled as such.
isn’t that your main premise, that words lead to- or incite action?
Who has done more than members of the Jewish community, who have outsized access to media, to speak words, create memes and images that engender hatred of some designated Other, with the intent and purpose of ultimately causing grievous harm to that targeted group.
Jews did it to Germans in order to “educate” the American people on the need to firebomb and kill German civilians; they used lies of the most outrageous kinds, and manipulated legal and political institutions in the US and elsewhere to achieve their goal.
Jews are at the vanguard of using words to effect the destruction of Iran, similar to the way the same process was rolled out against Iraq and Syria.
Please don’t insult with the claim that “non-Jews do it too.” Yes indeed, they do. Benjamin Ginsberg writes of how Jews linked up with east coast Anglican Protestants to gin up hatred, then war against Germany — Charles Lindbergh was right (Ginsberg gloats in describing how Lindbergh was attacked, his character assassinated, his life made miserable.)
For at least a decade Roman Catholic Ed Royce has been fellating Orange County donkeys who must cheer when he imposes another round of sanctions on Iran, or gives another rabble-rousing speech about how evil Iran is. He’s a disgrace to personhood much less Catholicism.
Words can kill, and nobody has, in the past, or in the present, used words with more deadly effect than Jews.
Go ahead and challenge my general statement, Sam; there’s chapter a verse aplenty in those rows and rows of holocaustiana that so many “mediocre intellects” seem to delight to produce, and that our public libraries expend their budgets & shelf space on. Bring it on.
Sam The Sham: “… who decides the ‘integrity’ of the Jew in question?”
Ask iffen-iffen!
A Final Judgement-warning though, Shammy. (Sigh)
He might suggest the “Decider” is actually Jesus of Nazareth.
Selah Rothchild Citizens United Adelson.
I think others have adequately addressed your pathetic attempts to try and portray me as a Jew hater for simply trying to shine a light on the machinations of The Lobby, so I won’t go there.
What I will say, though, is this. As I’ve mentioned many times before, I have Hellenic roots. And I must admit, reading your comment reminded me of the great sophists of the past. Thrasymachus immediately comes to mind. That said, your specious “argument” reminded me of another specious “argument” made by a present-day sophist, Bret Stephens. I’m sure you have already viewed the debate that took place last year. It was part of the Intelligence Squared series of debates, Blame the elites for the Trump phenomenon.
For the Motion was Timothy Carney, Ben Domenech. Against the Motion was Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens and the Moderator was John Donvan.
Here’s a brief excerpt from the transcript of that debate:
What a breathless display of sophistry, no? Thrasymachus would have been proud to see that his rhetorical traditions are still going strong over two millennia later!
Where was I? Oh, yes. So, just as Bret Stephens was trying to convince the audience that they were the elite (not the leading figures of society’s key institutions – i.e., political, media, academic, religious, business, etc.), you are trying to convince us that any ordinary American has the opportunity to come together with other likeminded Americans to create a Lobby that could counter the influence of the all-powerful Zionist Lobby.
While what you say has, in theory, a kernel of truth to it, the reality is, as you know, quite different. There are a number of conditions that have to be satisfied before a successful Lobby can be established. While the big lobbies (big pharma, big finance, big Zion, etc.) have clearly satisfied these conditions, Aunt Bee from Mayberry and Joe Sixpack from Main Street fall far short from doing so. And we have The Lobby to thank for this, as well. As Prof. MacDonald has clearly demonstrated, The Lobby was instrumental in pushing for a non-restrictionist immigration policy. And Prof. Putnam’s study clearly demonstrated the intended consequences of such a policy – i.e., a more heterogeneous society that is less likely to bowl together, let alone have the necessary social cohesion to form a Lobby powerful enough to counter the Zionist Lobby.
But not to worry, all hope is not lost. As Philip Weiss constantly reminds us, he believes the Jewish community itself will fracture on the issue of I/P and when that happens, the influence of The Lobby will diminish to such an extent that it will not be able to prevent the inevitable – i.e., the elimination of apartheid in Palestine and a rebalancing of the special relationship to a more normal footing.
I’m a patient man. Time will prove who is right and who is wrong on this issue… so, we’ll just have to wait and see.
P.S. Props go out to Rurik, Talha, and Chuck for their support.
We are witnessing a "progressive" community mired in identity politics, and not only silent on wars of aggression, but stoking the anti-Russia fervor. In his lament for the phantom US peace movement John Pilger writes, "There is plenty of sound and fury at Trump the odious one, the “fascist”, but almost none at Trump the symptom and caricature of an enduring system of conquest and extremism." The Democrats, split into Hillary and Bernie camps, are still united in their support for militarism. Stephen Lendman writes of Sanders, "He supports America’s imperial agenda, its phony war on terror, raping and destroying nations. He wrongfully blames Hamas for Israeli high crimes." http://stephenlendman.org/2017/09/bernie-sanders-israel-iran/
Phil Weiss may believe that the Jewish community will fracture over I/P, but will it remain united on Israel/US hegemony in greater ME? Wars for alleged R2P or Israeli security? As it stands, most of the US pro-Palestinian SJWs are anti-Assad, anti-Iran, and anti-Russia. If you are putting hope in the Jews to rebalance themselves and their relation to US, I suggest you review Gilad Atzmon's explanation of Jewish triangulation. And you're pretty funny blaming immigrants for "native" Americans' inability to organize. I guess Joe Sixpack is so absorbed in hating on 'foreigners' that he doesn't have time to talk to Aunt Bee.
other questions are bound to arise, e.g., who decides the “integrity” of the Jew in question? Words written or spoken by a Jew should be labelled rat poison?
Play it Sam – sing Holocaust!
Always always endlessly sing holocaust.
Do it – terrorize people with false guilt. Terrorized them and control them with personal threats.
Knock them down – prostrate them – flatted them with fear for their livelihood like you did Valerie.
Though they were not even alive – never let them escape the pseudo-guilt of the holocaust.
That’s it, crush them Sam, like all good Jews do.
Think Peace — Art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg_lQNv6onw
Likewise words written or spoken by whatever Saudi prince is currently handling English-based PR.
What is wrong with full disclosure on running a label under Kristol when he speaks on TV saying, "Jewish and an outspoken supporter of the state of Israel" - is this not true? I would say, make sure to add a bullet point of how he fully supported the Iraq War, Libya, etc. Why is it wrong to mention I am a Muslim (and was born in Pakistan) if I am interviewed on TV for related foreign policy subjects?
Watch this video; the **** is this guy laughing about? Do people like him think it's a joke??!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDCbM8Jcy0
Why would it be wrong to put up a label? Listen to those jerks at Fox News, they might run the label in a bragging posture.
Peace.
You’d eliminate the entirety of Washington’s political class! And those of each state’s capital. And then some. Nice sentiment. Not about to happen.
So the basic issue cannot be dealt with quite so easily as writing a few lines in a blog. My view is this: A group of people called neoconservatives filled the latest vacancies in America’s long record of waging war [heck, why just America, world history screams and suggests itself here]. Further tags, as insightfully pointed out by Iffen, are not required; any such requirement is the exclusive domain of a certain group.
I don’t think you’ve thought through this stupid proposition. It would undoubtedly move beyond political commentary. Taken to its logical conclusion every politician, every pundit, every commentator on television, every professor, every columnist, every movie producer, director, actor, comedian, would have a running label of their ethnicity and religion for all their appearances and opinions.
A ludicrous notion. It would start as a most loathsome practice and quickly reduce to meaningless nonsense along the lines of prescription drug warnings. Besides being loathsome and reminiscent of a time and practice we’ve hopefully left behind. But I repeat myself.
It is fine to dislike Kristol, or whoever else, but the suggestion was to label as rat poison the opinion of all Jews who do not possess integrity. And presumably, the writer and his cohorts get to sit as judge, jury and executioner.
A thought occurred to me: were you thinking of living in America with a dhimmi status?
Almost all have Ashkenazi names and they are not shy about their brazen demands on the American empire to do their wars for them. Imagine if a bunch of Muhammad’s, Ahmed’s, Ali’s were roaming around the corridors of power demanding that America go attack this or that country on their behalf. Some eyebrows would be raised. But nobody seems to notice when a bunch of Kagan’s, Abram’s, Cohen’s, Perl’s are breathing on the neck of the Empire and demanding incessantly that Empire go and attack an Arab country. ”"
So if a bunch of Muhammad's, Ahmed's and Ali's were pushing for Washington to war on behalf of Saudi Arabia, you believe that pointing out that they are muslim is irrelevant or should not be pointed out?
"Once the real meaning is understood, there is no need to quibble over names."If those rights are restricted, I'll re-evaluate my presence here.Peace.
Oh my - we know where this is going - the suggestion is, hate one Jew - means wanting to kill them all (NOT).
(Hasbara 101 – hide a Jew's wrong doing in the general – never allow the Jew to be singled out. “Never is the Jew the worst.” When it comes to coercion, Jews are always second from the bottom – ask them.)
Think Peace --- Art
America is simply like a dumb as the little bird that has a cuckoo in its nest; killing its own kind and steadily exhausting the adult bird. All should read The protocols of the elders of zion see http://jewwatch.com/jew-references-protocols-full-text-folder.html then then realise there are Jews burt there are also Zionists
““Would you like to know what is so strange about the neocons?
Almost all have Ashkenazi names and they are not shy about their brazen demands on the American empire to do their wars for them. Imagine if a bunch of Muhammad’s, Ahmed’s, Ali’s were roaming around the corridors of power demanding that America go attack this or that country on their behalf. Some eyebrows would be raised. But nobody seems to notice when a bunch of Kagan’s, Abram’s, Cohen’s, Perl’s are breathing on the neck of the Empire and demanding incessantly that Empire go and attack an Arab country. ””
So if a bunch of Muhammad’s, Ahmed’s and Ali’s were pushing for Washington to war on behalf of Saudi Arabia, you believe that pointing out that they are muslim is irrelevant or should not be pointed out?
Don't 'Think Peace' too much, G'd forbid it might have unintended consequences.
Play It Sam – Sing Holocaust,
We concede the current battle of words to your brilliant brain trust.
Flippant arrogant threatening words are winning the current battles – but then, as is apparent, the other side is just waking up.
1000+ comments.
Think Peace — Art
p.s. Every time you comment, you expose your contempt.
Hey Sam,
Yeah – you know, it’s a tough job to remove mold and rotting wood.
Sure, I’m sure Mr. Giraldi knows that what he is proposing has little chance of going through. Sometimes rattling the cage is a good enough start.
Not required, no. But it’s helpful to know if someone is Jewish when it comes to the Middle East just as much as it is to know someone is Muslim or even an Evangelical Christian as opposed to, say, a Chaldean. In the case of my Armenian example, it would be nice to know if the speaker was an ethnic Armenian. I think this facade of people bringing unbiased and objective perspectives is farcical – let’s just be open about it and argue the facts. If people see that a whole heck of a lot of Neocons (watch the video I linked) happen to have a personal stake with or relationship with Israel – let it be known. If a bunch of Muslims were disproportionately on Neoconservative boards/think tanks/publications, I want them to be outed – I want our community shunning them, I don’t want them to be able to marry Muslim daughters, I want Muslim imams balking at leading their funeral prayers, I want to bear full social pressure from within our community to stop them.
That’s fine – we can argue it from a perspective of it being a technically viable thing to do, but I simply don’t get why it is taken as an immoral stance to take – there is a difference between the two.
I think you are conflating. I saw Mr. Giraldi as specifically using Kristol as an example of how he defines those Jews without integrity and “rat poison” views. And frankly, I agree – the man seems to be a demon from among mankind. Those Jews (and others) who think like him – are likewise. He seems to have zero empathy for the misery he is causing and thinks it’s a joke.
I wouldn’t presume; Mr. Giraldi is right here – ask him who would be setting standards.
The sacred law already assumes that I am. One with a boatload of rights and privileges for sure, but as Imam Ghazali (ra) once pointed out:
“Once the real meaning is understood, there is no need to quibble over names.”
If those rights are restricted, I’ll re-evaluate my presence here.
Peace.
Sam The Sham to Talha: “You’d eliminate the entirety of Washington’s political class!”
(Cough, yuck)
AIPAC’ s purchase of the Washington political class is a money bleed which the elite Jews would love to discharge as soon as Greater Israel borders are established and the “pivot” takeover of China’s political class intensifies.
Post scriptum to Talha: The Sham is very cunning. He well knows that Jews long ago eliminated what remained of a patriotic American “political class.”
Selah Dulles James Angleton LBJ Remember The Liberty McCain.
Play It Sam – Sing Holocaust,
Oh my – we know where this is going – the suggestion is, hate one Jew – means wanting to kill them all (NOT).
(Hasbara 101 – hide a Jew’s wrong doing in the general – never allow the Jew to be singled out. “Never is the Jew the worst.” When it comes to coercion, Jews are always second from the bottom – ask them.)
Think Peace — Art
http://Www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/25/holocaust-denier-ordered-to’visit-concentration-camps
Let’s put that aside and assume that the Jews are making bad decisions with regard to the ME. They are citizens and we are stuck with their bad decisions just as we benefit from their good decisions. Jews have as much right to screw up America as anyone else. This is the crux; either Jews are accepted as equal or they are not.they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down. I think that I have agreed that there are problems with the political use of the Holocaust. It’s complicated to me. I just hope that they don’t start spelling it H*******t; that would be a really bad sign.Why shouldn’t these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?Should all of the churches, organizations, businesses and families of the non-Jewish warmongers be forced to make public disavowals? Should Yale be forced to disavow Bush, etc., etc?I repeat my question. Why can’t we just name the warmongers without additional tags? In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guiltNo doubt, some would want you in the boats with them, perhaps leaky boats. :)
I want to repeat a quote from Sam’s comment. If you can’t “see” the undercurrent then you are going to have a very different view. I see the undercurrent.
Hey iffen,
Possibly – look, war mongering is not an exclusive monopoly of Semites (any more than prophethood is). Then we could also put pressure on them as well. Neither am I letting the military industrial complex off the hook either. I don’t think this is a black and white issue with just Jews under the microscope. If some guy has major stock options in or is on the board of a war manufacturer – that should also be posted under their name because it is a legitimate piece of information – the fact that the guy is half Italian, half Native American may not be in cases dealing with the Middle East.
Again, this is possible, but the voices clamoring the loudest for war in Iraq (and the whole “Clean Break” crowd) and trying to sell it were top-heavy with these elite NeoCon Jewish voices. The other big crowd were the Evangelicals – they own this mess as well. There were definitely NeoCon people from among the Muslims as well, but they simply were not as prominent.
Not “the” main cause, but a significant contributor – again, something our community needs to own up to.
Look – it is not debatable that the Israelis would rather have the Syrian territory in shambles rather than a strong central government propped up by Iran:
“‘In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State. They don’t have the capabilities that Iran has,’ Ya’alon told a conference held by the Institute of National Security Studies in Tel Aviv.”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
Israeli-firsters wanted Assad gone, they didn’t think he was going to survive – they certainly didn’t calculate Russia. The defense minister said, it is preferable that Syria is in ruins under Daesh rather than stable and together under an Irani proxy regime – do you not see the self-serving mentality that goes into that kind of a posture? So this was a massively bad calculation on their part – I agree with Andrei. They screwed up big time!
And another note, look what the Ya’alon says:
“Many in the West refuse to acknowledge this — won’t even say ‘radical Islam,’” Ya’alon said. “Of course not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists in the world today are Muslim. We can’t ignore that.”
Agreed – most of your run-of-the-mill terrorists are Muslim – I’ll admit to that. So why should we ignore the Israeli connection (due to ethnicity) in many of the people that are disproportionately represented among the Necons? If we can admit to having our radicals, why can’t Jews admit to having a “radical” strain among them?
Agreed – what does full disclosure have anything to do with making them unequal.
You do know as a member of a minority that is automatically asked to disavow anything, anytime some fool like Baghdadi sneezes, I lose absolutely zero in saying everyone should be held to the standards Muslims are held to. And yes, United Methodists did (to their credit) publicly denounced Bush and ask him to repent – sending him a message called:
“A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent”
http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19162/
Additional tags can be helpful in establishing the whole picture; anything from dual citizenship, ethnic background, if one served in a foreign army, if one gets paid by foreign govts as a consultant, companies one owns stock in, religious persuasion, etc. What is wrong with full disclosure on items pertinent to the subject matter? I mean, I don’t need to know what size shoe he wears or if he has a license to drive a semi or if he likes cats more than dogs.
I agree that some people have an “undercurrent” they are riding. As I said, that’s not me – I’m asking for the same principles I would have applied on my community if a disproportionate number of them were similarly knee-deep.
Peace.
What I will say, though, is this. As I've mentioned many times before, I have Hellenic roots. And I must admit, reading your comment reminded me of the great sophists of the past. Thrasymachus immediately comes to mind. That said, your specious "argument" reminded me of another specious "argument" made by a present-day sophist, Bret Stephens. I'm sure you have already viewed the debate that took place last year. It was part of the Intelligence Squared series of debates, Blame the elites for the Trump phenomenon.
For the Motion was Timothy Carney, Ben Domenech. Against the Motion was Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens and the Moderator was John Donvan.
Here's a brief excerpt from the transcript of that debate:What a breathless display of sophistry, no? Thrasymachus would have been proud to see that his rhetorical traditions are still going strong over two millennia later!
Where was I? Oh, yes. So, just as Bret Stephens was trying to convince the audience that they were the elite (not the leading figures of society's key institutions - i.e., political, media, academic, religious, business, etc.), you are trying to convince us that any ordinary American has the opportunity to come together with other likeminded Americans to create a Lobby that could counter the influence of the all-powerful Zionist Lobby.
While what you say has, in theory, a kernel of truth to it, the reality is, as you know, quite different. There are a number of conditions that have to be satisfied before a successful Lobby can be established. While the big lobbies (big pharma, big finance, big Zion, etc.) have clearly satisfied these conditions, Aunt Bee from Mayberry and Joe Sixpack from Main Street fall far short from doing so. And we have The Lobby to thank for this, as well. As Prof. MacDonald has clearly demonstrated, The Lobby was instrumental in pushing for a non-restrictionist immigration policy. And Prof. Putnam's study clearly demonstrated the intended consequences of such a policy - i.e., a more heterogeneous society that is less likely to bowl together, let alone have the necessary social cohesion to form a Lobby powerful enough to counter the Zionist Lobby.
But not to worry, all hope is not lost. As Philip Weiss constantly reminds us, he believes the Jewish community itself will fracture on the issue of I/P and when that happens, the influence of The Lobby will diminish to such an extent that it will not be able to prevent the inevitable - i.e., the elimination of apartheid in Palestine and a rebalancing of the special relationship to a more normal footing.
I'm a patient man. Time will prove who is right and who is wrong on this issue... so, we'll just have to wait and see.
P.S. Props go out to Rurik, Talha, and Chuck for their support.
After thinking about it a little more, I realized just how insane the proposition is that average Americans should have to form a lobby to influence their own elected representatives to put the interests of the general public ahead of the interests of the special interests. And this is exactly the situation in which the average American finds himself, today. That’s why it is commonly referred to as a “swamp.” And expecting the American people to form a lobby so they can take back their gov’t isn’t the answer. Unfortunately, things have deteriorated to the point where the rot is so deep and widespread, the stench of the swamp so toxic that a root and branch approach is the only solution.
I've got to shine
Whistle, whistle
Nobody here but us light shiners
What I will say, though, is this. As I've mentioned many times before, I have Hellenic roots. And I must admit, reading your comment reminded me of the great sophists of the past. Thrasymachus immediately comes to mind. That said, your specious "argument" reminded me of another specious "argument" made by a present-day sophist, Bret Stephens. I'm sure you have already viewed the debate that took place last year. It was part of the Intelligence Squared series of debates, Blame the elites for the Trump phenomenon.
For the Motion was Timothy Carney, Ben Domenech. Against the Motion was Jennifer Rubin, Bret Stephens and the Moderator was John Donvan.
Here's a brief excerpt from the transcript of that debate:What a breathless display of sophistry, no? Thrasymachus would have been proud to see that his rhetorical traditions are still going strong over two millennia later!
Where was I? Oh, yes. So, just as Bret Stephens was trying to convince the audience that they were the elite (not the leading figures of society's key institutions - i.e., political, media, academic, religious, business, etc.), you are trying to convince us that any ordinary American has the opportunity to come together with other likeminded Americans to create a Lobby that could counter the influence of the all-powerful Zionist Lobby.
While what you say has, in theory, a kernel of truth to it, the reality is, as you know, quite different. There are a number of conditions that have to be satisfied before a successful Lobby can be established. While the big lobbies (big pharma, big finance, big Zion, etc.) have clearly satisfied these conditions, Aunt Bee from Mayberry and Joe Sixpack from Main Street fall far short from doing so. And we have The Lobby to thank for this, as well. As Prof. MacDonald has clearly demonstrated, The Lobby was instrumental in pushing for a non-restrictionist immigration policy. And Prof. Putnam's study clearly demonstrated the intended consequences of such a policy - i.e., a more heterogeneous society that is less likely to bowl together, let alone have the necessary social cohesion to form a Lobby powerful enough to counter the Zionist Lobby.
But not to worry, all hope is not lost. As Philip Weiss constantly reminds us, he believes the Jewish community itself will fracture on the issue of I/P and when that happens, the influence of The Lobby will diminish to such an extent that it will not be able to prevent the inevitable - i.e., the elimination of apartheid in Palestine and a rebalancing of the special relationship to a more normal footing.
I'm a patient man. Time will prove who is right and who is wrong on this issue... so, we'll just have to wait and see.
P.S. Props go out to Rurik, Talha, and Chuck for their support.
Hi Geo,
We are witnessing a “progressive” community mired in identity politics, and not only silent on wars of aggression, but stoking the anti-Russia fervor. In his lament for the phantom US peace movement John Pilger writes, “There is plenty of sound and fury at Trump the odious one, the “fascist”, but almost none at Trump the symptom and caricature of an enduring system of conquest and extremism.” The Democrats, split into Hillary and Bernie camps, are still united in their support for militarism. Stephen Lendman writes of Sanders, “He supports America’s imperial agenda, its phony war on terror, raping and destroying nations. He wrongfully blames Hamas for Israeli high crimes.” http://stephenlendman.org/2017/09/bernie-sanders-israel-iran/
Phil Weiss may believe that the Jewish community will fracture over I/P, but will it remain united on Israel/US hegemony in greater ME? Wars for alleged R2P or Israeli security? As it stands, most of the US pro-Palestinian SJWs are anti-Assad, anti-Iran, and anti-Russia. If you are putting hope in the Jews to rebalance themselves and their relation to US, I suggest you review Gilad Atzmon’s explanation of Jewish triangulation. And you’re pretty funny blaming immigrants for “native” Americans’ inability to organize. I guess Joe Sixpack is so absorbed in hating on ‘foreigners’ that he doesn’t have time to talk to Aunt Bee.
"'In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State. They don’t have the capabilities that Iran has,' Ya’alon told a conference held by the Institute of National Security Studies in Tel Aviv."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
Israeli-firsters wanted Assad gone, they didn't think he was going to survive - they certainly didn't calculate Russia. The defense minister said, it is preferable that Syria is in ruins under Daesh rather than stable and together under an Irani proxy regime - do you not see the self-serving mentality that goes into that kind of a posture? So this was a massively bad calculation on their part - I agree with Andrei. They screwed up big time!
And another note, look what the Ya'alon says:
"Many in the West refuse to acknowledge this — won’t even say ‘radical Islam,'” Ya’alon said. “Of course not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists in the world today are Muslim. We can’t ignore that."
Agreed - most of your run-of-the-mill terrorists are Muslim - I'll admit to that. So why should we ignore the Israeli connection (due to ethnicity) in many of the people that are disproportionately represented among the Necons? If we can admit to having our radicals, why can't Jews admit to having a "radical" strain among them?Agreed - what does full disclosure have anything to do with making them unequal.You do know as a member of a minority that is automatically asked to disavow anything, anytime some fool like Baghdadi sneezes, I lose absolutely zero in saying everyone should be held to the standards Muslims are held to. And yes, United Methodists did (to their credit) publicly denounced Bush and ask him to repent - sending him a message called:
“A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent"
http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19162/Additional tags can be helpful in establishing the whole picture; anything from dual citizenship, ethnic background, if one served in a foreign army, if one gets paid by foreign govts as a consultant, companies one owns stock in, religious persuasion, etc. What is wrong with full disclosure on items pertinent to the subject matter? I mean, I don't need to know what size shoe he wears or if he has a license to drive a semi or if he likes cats more than dogs.
I agree that some people have an "undercurrent" they are riding. As I said, that's not me - I'm asking for the same principles I would have applied on my community if a disproportionate number of them were similarly knee-deep.
Peace.
because it is a legitimate piece of information
full disclosure on items pertinent to the subject matter
Who gets to decide this?
If you were on trial for sexual assault on Miss Magnolia Blossom of 1935 in Yoknapatawpha County, do I, as public prosecutor, get to introduce in evidence the fact that you have a Nordic Princess as a wife?
Anyway, disclosure of Jewish ethnicity is not the issue for me. I don’t think that there is anything wrong with reporting x of y Federal Reserve Governors are Jews, x of y billionaires are Jews, x of y film directors are Jews, x of y professors are Jews, x of y Neo-cons are Jews, etc., etc.
I object when this information is harped on over and over and it is already known and in the public arena. This is inciting distrust, plain and simple.
I object to calls for disqualifying Jews or any other group from full citizenship.
I might think that it’s really not a good idea to have blacks on a jury when the defendant is black and the victim is white. Can I get blacks disqualified from jury duty?
Having captions reading purveyor of rat poison for Jewish pundits is beyond the pale.
What’s next? A bloodsucking Jew caption for Janet Yelling?
Good god - I hope so - speaking the truth over and over - is not propaganda.
Think Peace --- Art
How about a Vampire Squid emblem for Yellen' s pant suit?
Do you cotton to that?
(SIGH)
You better quit now before Ethopian Jews disqualify you from hasbara jury duty during The Corporate Fake News Media coverage of the Netanyahu couple's looming trial!
Selah Greenspan Jewish American Princess wannabe Nikki Oppenheimer.
*I just read Perry Mason.
Again, I'm talking about reasonable, pertinent details; for instance, Francis Fukuyama may well fit into the NeoCon framework (having worked with Wolfowitz in the past), but his ethnicity has little to do - intrinsically - with how he relates to the Middle East. Maybe that changes if the Far East is in question when dealing with North Korea and Japan. And I'm willing to undergo the same scrutiny for people in my community - let the discussion include being open and honest about where our biases lie.
Actually - to be honest - I would be happier with the kind of reporting that goes on in Israel with regard to dissident voices. Seeing some of the stuff I've read in Haaretz and even blatantly honest right-wing Israeli opinions about their callous intentions is a breath of fresh air. I would say the debate is much more lively in Israel; everything reported here is filtered for mass consumption.
Peace.
"'In Syria, if the choice is between Iran and the Islamic State, I choose the Islamic State. They don’t have the capabilities that Iran has,' Ya’alon told a conference held by the Institute of National Security Studies in Tel Aviv."
https://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-i-would-prefer-islamic-state-to-iran-in-syria/
Israeli-firsters wanted Assad gone, they didn't think he was going to survive - they certainly didn't calculate Russia. The defense minister said, it is preferable that Syria is in ruins under Daesh rather than stable and together under an Irani proxy regime - do you not see the self-serving mentality that goes into that kind of a posture? So this was a massively bad calculation on their part - I agree with Andrei. They screwed up big time!
And another note, look what the Ya'alon says:
"Many in the West refuse to acknowledge this — won’t even say ‘radical Islam,'” Ya’alon said. “Of course not every Muslim is a terrorist, but most terrorists in the world today are Muslim. We can’t ignore that."
Agreed - most of your run-of-the-mill terrorists are Muslim - I'll admit to that. So why should we ignore the Israeli connection (due to ethnicity) in many of the people that are disproportionately represented among the Necons? If we can admit to having our radicals, why can't Jews admit to having a "radical" strain among them?Agreed - what does full disclosure have anything to do with making them unequal.You do know as a member of a minority that is automatically asked to disavow anything, anytime some fool like Baghdadi sneezes, I lose absolutely zero in saying everyone should be held to the standards Muslims are held to. And yes, United Methodists did (to their credit) publicly denounced Bush and ask him to repent - sending him a message called:
“A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent"
http://www.wnd.com/2003/06/19162/Additional tags can be helpful in establishing the whole picture; anything from dual citizenship, ethnic background, if one served in a foreign army, if one gets paid by foreign govts as a consultant, companies one owns stock in, religious persuasion, etc. What is wrong with full disclosure on items pertinent to the subject matter? I mean, I don't need to know what size shoe he wears or if he has a license to drive a semi or if he likes cats more than dogs.
I agree that some people have an "undercurrent" they are riding. As I said, that's not me - I'm asking for the same principles I would have applied on my community if a disproportionate number of them were similarly knee-deep.
Peace.
The other big crowd were the Evangelicals – they own this mess as well.
We are not responsible, it’s genetic, our great grandfathers were border reivers.
a root and branch approach is the only solution.
Calls for final solution.
This little light of mine
I’ve got to shine
Whistle, whistle
Nobody here but us light shiners
We are witnessing a "progressive" community mired in identity politics, and not only silent on wars of aggression, but stoking the anti-Russia fervor. In his lament for the phantom US peace movement John Pilger writes, "There is plenty of sound and fury at Trump the odious one, the “fascist”, but almost none at Trump the symptom and caricature of an enduring system of conquest and extremism." The Democrats, split into Hillary and Bernie camps, are still united in their support for militarism. Stephen Lendman writes of Sanders, "He supports America’s imperial agenda, its phony war on terror, raping and destroying nations. He wrongfully blames Hamas for Israeli high crimes." http://stephenlendman.org/2017/09/bernie-sanders-israel-iran/
Phil Weiss may believe that the Jewish community will fracture over I/P, but will it remain united on Israel/US hegemony in greater ME? Wars for alleged R2P or Israeli security? As it stands, most of the US pro-Palestinian SJWs are anti-Assad, anti-Iran, and anti-Russia. If you are putting hope in the Jews to rebalance themselves and their relation to US, I suggest you review Gilad Atzmon's explanation of Jewish triangulation. And you're pretty funny blaming immigrants for "native" Americans' inability to organize. I guess Joe Sixpack is so absorbed in hating on 'foreigners' that he doesn't have time to talk to Aunt Bee.
Yeah, I know. I kinda mucked that one up. That’s why I quickly posted a follow-up comment. Hopefully, you and others think it’s an improvement.
Only a PEA-brain like you would arrive at that conclusion from what I wrote. Pathetic.
“This is inciting distrust, plain and simple.”
Good god – I hope so – speaking the truth over and over – is not propaganda.
Think Peace — Art
Iffen-iffen,
How about a Vampire Squid emblem for Yellen’ s pant suit?
Do you cotton to that?
(SIGH)
You better quit now before Ethopian Jews disqualify you from hasbara jury duty during The Corporate Fake News Media coverage of the Netanyahu couple’s looming trial!
Selah Greenspan Jewish American Princess wannabe Nikki Oppenheimer.
Bacon was a huge influence on me, and a towering philosophical thinker, imho
Cheers
Thank you, Rurik, and also thanks to Chuck Orloski, The Thread that Runs so True.
This article/thread should be published! geokat62, jacques sheete, Mike Johnson, even our sounding board Sam have all offered important perspectives.
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This thread’s too long already. Perhaps in a shorter article Priss Factor will connect his/her earlier explanation of the Rainbow Flag displacing the US flag; with the removal of the Confederate flag and monuments, and then with this latest stunt involving football players and to Flag or not to Flag. If the Confederate flag can be banned, then so can the Stars and Stripes. What will replace it?
"Ignorance is strength"
I see Merkel was re-elected
At this point I’m mostly just bloating the thread which I think has the most comments of any article here ever but as to “Who gets to decide this? ” I’d be happy if nobody got to suppress it, or got ostracized for pointing it out.
Probably? I’m not a lawyer, though*, so maybe not.
Well, it suggests opinions on certain matters may not be free from bias so perhaps 100% trust would be inappropriate in those cases.
Depends.
No but depending on the judge you might get whites.
*I just read Perry Mason.
Hey iffen,
These are details where I get a bit stuck. If we had trustworthy journalism, they’d be asking these questions and bringing up these details to flesh things out.
Sure, I assume the judge decides whether it is pertinent to the case.
So we agree. I would also like disclosure of other details that may be pertinent; some of which I thought were reasonable and outlined.
Again, I am not calling for this – Jews are not a monolith – there are also Jewish people that I find to be fairly reasonable and balanced in their approach to the topic of Israel and the Middle East. I’m not talking those who agree with me 100%, but rather those who are not chicken-hawks like Kristol.
It simply looked to me like he was using hyperbole. Check out Mercer’s latest article for grand use of hyperbole – “Life with Islam” – Oy Vey!
Again, I’m talking about reasonable, pertinent details; for instance, Francis Fukuyama may well fit into the NeoCon framework (having worked with Wolfowitz in the past), but his ethnicity has little to do – intrinsically – with how he relates to the Middle East. Maybe that changes if the Far East is in question when dealing with North Korea and Japan. And I’m willing to undergo the same scrutiny for people in my community – let the discussion include being open and honest about where our biases lie.
Actually – to be honest – I would be happier with the kind of reporting that goes on in Israel with regard to dissident voices. Seeing some of the stuff I’ve read in Haaretz and even blatantly honest right-wing Israeli opinions about their callous intentions is a breath of fresh air. I would say the debate is much more lively in Israel; everything reported here is filtered for mass consumption.
Peace.
And we know who controls journalism, right? ;-)
Are Jews (and Evangelicals) who are adamant in their insistence upon the legitimacy of the State of Israel biased to the point that they should be excluded and labeled?
If, in 2017, Senator Roy Moore introduces a bill that requires any American citizen who professes (or is suspected of professing, or who had any ancestor to the 7th generation that professed) Islam as their faith, and who wishes to enter public service in any capacity, be required to publically disavow the authority and supremacy of the Ulema? Would such legislation just be getting at “bias”?
The Jews (not Jews individually but the swarming hive of Jewry) brought the opprobrium of the world down upon them when they concurred with their spiritual descendants in choosing Barabbas over Christ.
They eschew the truth and promote the lie.
They reject the beautiful and promote the ugly.
They turn their hearts against cooperation and insist upon litigation.
They hate concord among nations, instead promoting strife.
They work against social peace and promote revolution.
They undermine industry and promote usury.
They hide from the light and welcome the darkness.
They despise high culture and advance degeneracy.
They oppose innocence with corruption.
They encourage war and work against peace.
Antisemitism is hardly an enigma. It is a natural, immunilogical response of a healthy culture and society to a potential infection which threatens it. The only healthy response is excision. Those ethnic Jews who choose to assimilate and swear an oath of allegiance to their host culture and its normative institutions should be allowed to stay and welcomed. Those who do not should be kicked out. That is the ultimate, time tested formula for success in Europe. Hopefully it will be normative practice for America as well, some day.
Valerie Plame Wilson had to resign from Ploughshares Fund as a result of her tweet. Any honest talk about the role of neocon Jews in getting us into unending wars in the Middle East results in harsh reprisals.
The Chosen have no shame and no dignity. They use the US as a host. Here is an illustration (simplified) of the process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdY
I’ve never been to a synagogue so I wouldn’t know. I’ve heard that stuff in Christian churches and by televangelist though. A person being exposed to peer pressure in a synagogue and cultural events doesn’t mean that they are so weak as to conform to that pressure. I like statistical proof on such topics as who supports what. Abrahamic religions are an American security concern. No doubt about that. The world would be better without the three worst faiths in human history.
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
I think that’s a fine idea. Muslims are taught from before they can walk to be wary of Jews. That foreknowledge will keep any Jewish minority in check.
I have it in my possession, read about a third, with the intervening showers, and can report that a merry read it isn't. More on it, once I complete the task.
I look forward to your thoughts. Perhaps you’d consider writing an article about your experience for UR?
I will wholeheartedly agree that this is potentially a slippery slope that has the potential for abuse. Unfortunately, if the system wasn't being abused now, we wouldn't be having this conversation.There are some people that would be accusing Jews of all sorts of vile things even while stamping with boots on the faces of their children. There is not much you can do about certain people - I'm not one of those*.
However, as geokat brought up the issue of the "green men" calling for war in outer space...the issue is that Jewish people seem to have a problem in their community. Here is the problem (as I see it); the Jewish community has a disproportionate amount of influence on foreign policy - is there any doubt to this? Some of their elite are disproportionately involved in the decisions to go to war, make or break treaties, etc. And they have been putting us on a foreign policy track that the majority of Americans do not approve of and are sick and tired of. And they keep at it, relentlessly and will not leave nor admit being wrong or even mistaken.
Now if, say, we had a bunch of ethnic Armenians ensconced in such high level positions who were constantly trying to get us into disastrous wars with Turkey or Azerbaijan or Iran in order to make sure Armenia remains top-dog in the region - or to help establish "Greater Armenia", then we would be having conversations about them. And any time you bring up the fact that a disproportionate percentage of them are involved in steering the ship of state towards icebergs, they bring up the Armenian Genocide to beat you down.
So the problem - for people like me - are not Jews per se, but the fact that so many of their elite are involved in Neocon policy-making - and Mr. Ghiraldi named names and was fairly clear about which kind of Jews he was talking about. Why shouldn't these men and women be brought into the open and their disastrous policies exposed and the Jewish community/orgs asked to disavow them?
Now every community has a problem. My community certainly has one; our youth are disproportionately involved in terrorist acts in the world - we are constantly putting out statements disavowing people. Every time and incident happens all the Muslim orgs scramble to send out disavowal notices. We have to face up to this and try to do our part to figure out and prevent radicalization of our youth. That is our burden, but that's not going to get anywhere without us first acknowledging there is a problem that we have to own.
That's not to say there aren't Jews out there trying to fight and expose the beast for what it is - they're just fairly marginalized. And it doesn't let the other non-Jewish Neocon voices off the hook either; I'm fairly sick and tired of men like Zalmay Khalilzad and other Muslims who want to use US power and influence to carry out nonsense imperial policies overseas.
Peace.
*In fact, if some people had their way in the West, there would be boatloads of Jews being shipped out regardless of guilt - and if people like me had ours, we'd open up the Muslim lands to resettle them as we had done historically.
I feel this is one of the most profound paragraphs in all the commentary on this article.
Talha’s right. Every time there’s a Muslim gone crazy in Europe, all the local Muslim organisations disavow and carry out vigils, hand in hand with Christian natives. I’m vaguely aware of the existence of Neturei Karta and a few individuals like Finkelstein and Atzmon but I’ve never seen any real life acknowledgement or disavowal of the wrongdoing of Jewry. I think it’s almost always denial and willful ignorance.
But little of them are vocal against other Islamist views.
Dont have numbers on Islamist, conservative, moderate, liberal Muslims though.
Jewish groups:
Ultraorthodox (tend to oppose Zionism)
Orthodox (more Zionist than above group).
Conservative (most Zionist)
Liberal Jews (tend to be Zionist)
Progressive/Social Dem (less Zionist)
im aware of the Neturei Karta, Kairites, but there numbers are very small.
It’s a strange slog, exceedingly dull at times yet curiosity keeps one coming back to it. Write a piece for UR? Perhaps we should collaborate, but then again, would you wish to belong to a club that would have you? Seriously, I hardly think my writing would receive anything but a hostile audience, Editor included.
Why pre-judge Editor Ron Unz?
Submit an article!
but then exposes his own trite attempt at guile by admitting that anyone who tells the truth about Jewish power is excommunicated post haste.
it's like when CNN news anchor Rick Sanchez mentioned Jews run the network, he was canned on the spot, proving that yes, Jews do own and run the networks, and will suffer no criticism as such.
but you have these pathetic shills running around demanding that there's no consolidated Jewish identity politics at CNN or other (obviously Jewish owned and dominated) networks, and that Jewish ownership and control has ZERO!! to do with any content or any reporting on Israel/Palestine or the serial wars America is forced to fight on behalf of Israel, and any suggestion that it (Jewish ownership) does, it nothing less than the ranting of hatred-consumed Nazis and anti-Semites!!!!
by their actions, like firing Mr. G from TAC, they only prove how right he is!
Mr. G, like Joseph Sobran, and so many, many others, simply posses too much integrity as men of character to participate in the shabby fraud, and refuse to bleat the platitudes about the 'emperor's fine and flowing raiment - that one must never, never mention 'dem Jews'.
And the paradigm that they've set up carefully over generations is to equate any criticism of the actions of some Jews, as a criticism of ALL Jews everywhere, as if because of the Holocaust, all Jews everywhere are immune to any criticism- because they're Jews. Which doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room when it's *obvious* that many Jews who own our media or dominate our financial system - use that power to help other Jews gain power and privilege and position, and often steer our ship of state in ways that are harmful for non-Jews. But you're not allowed to point that out. And if you do, it can only mean you're a closet Himmler who wants to gas all Jews.
So it's like a pressure cooker, where the outrages of some Jews can never be pointed out, until it simmers and roils under the surface. And one day explodes on the scene, as it did in Germany and other places in history.
why not just have an honest conversation about Jewish power, and give them credit when they deserve it, and criticism when it's valid?
It would indeed be “hilarious”, histrionics being the normal humour for some, yet to miss the apostrophe in Iffen’s factual statement is to miss the boat altogether.
Again, I'm talking about reasonable, pertinent details; for instance, Francis Fukuyama may well fit into the NeoCon framework (having worked with Wolfowitz in the past), but his ethnicity has little to do - intrinsically - with how he relates to the Middle East. Maybe that changes if the Far East is in question when dealing with North Korea and Japan. And I'm willing to undergo the same scrutiny for people in my community - let the discussion include being open and honest about where our biases lie.
Actually - to be honest - I would be happier with the kind of reporting that goes on in Israel with regard to dissident voices. Seeing some of the stuff I've read in Haaretz and even blatantly honest right-wing Israeli opinions about their callous intentions is a breath of fresh air. I would say the debate is much more lively in Israel; everything reported here is filtered for mass consumption.
Peace.
If we had trustworthy journalism
And we know who controls journalism, right?
Not only that, I don’t argue that Jews don’t have power, in fact, I have acknowledged it on many occasions. I just think that it’s time we stop blaming them for killing Jesus.
Is Anglican a religion or a ethnicity?
Talha's right. Every time there's a Muslim gone crazy in Europe, all the local Muslim organisations disavow and carry out vigils, hand in hand with Christian natives. I'm vaguely aware of the existence of Neturei Karta and a few individuals like Finkelstein and Atzmon but I've never seen any real life acknowledgement or disavowal of the wrongdoing of Jewry. I think it's almost always denial and willful ignorance.
Muslims tend to oppose ISIS (90%+).
But little of them are vocal against other Islamist views.
Dont have numbers on Islamist, conservative, moderate, liberal Muslims though.
Jewish groups:
Ultraorthodox (tend to oppose Zionism)
Orthodox (more Zionist than above group).
Conservative (most Zionist)
Liberal Jews (tend to be Zionist)
Progressive/Social Dem (less Zionist)
im aware of the Neturei Karta, Kairites, but there numbers are very small.
Who did kill Jesus? Should whoever it was be praised, blamed, or given a pass?
here is iffen’s factual statement:
so it isn’t an apostrophe that you’re speaking of, but quotation marks, intended to imply that it isn’t factual at all, and yet ironically in the same breath he goes on to repudiate his own point, by saying anyone who mentions Jewish treachery will feel the wrath of that treachery tout de suite, as was the case with Mr. Giraldi, and Valerie Plame and Joe Sobran and Rich Sanchez and Mel Gibson and Charlie Reese and Marlon Brando and James Traficant [RIP] and David Irving.. ad infinitum…
one wonders…
if Sam here had the means and wherewithal, for instance if this was Canada and not the ZUSA, where there actually are laws against questioning some obscure detail of the Holocaust, and Sam could make a phone call and have humble Rurik arrested for “Holocaust denial”, one wonders…
We could get a conviction before an impartial jury on this statement alone.
Again, I'm talking about reasonable, pertinent details; for instance, Francis Fukuyama may well fit into the NeoCon framework (having worked with Wolfowitz in the past), but his ethnicity has little to do - intrinsically - with how he relates to the Middle East. Maybe that changes if the Far East is in question when dealing with North Korea and Japan. And I'm willing to undergo the same scrutiny for people in my community - let the discussion include being open and honest about where our biases lie.
Actually - to be honest - I would be happier with the kind of reporting that goes on in Israel with regard to dissident voices. Seeing some of the stuff I've read in Haaretz and even blatantly honest right-wing Israeli opinions about their callous intentions is a breath of fresh air. I would say the debate is much more lively in Israel; everything reported here is filtered for mass consumption.
Peace.
let the discussion include being open and honest about where our biases lie.
Are Jews (and Evangelicals) who are adamant in their insistence upon the legitimacy of the State of Israel biased to the point that they should be excluded and labeled?
If, in 2017, Senator Roy Moore introduces a bill that requires any American citizen who professes (or is suspected of professing, or who had any ancestor to the 7th generation that professed) Islam as their faith, and who wishes to enter public service in any capacity, be required to publically disavow the authority and supremacy of the Ulema? Would such legislation just be getting at “bias”?
Labeled? Sure, why not? As I said - I am biased too - I don't mind having the label Muslim being placed on me when the issue of Israel or the Middle East comes up because that gives the reader/listener a better perspective as to how to gauge what I am saying; are my biases coming through or not, etc.Yeah - that legislation is getting at bias - a religious bias for sure (though I don't get it in the case of the whole ancestors thing - that's just weird). Then it'll go to court to see if it violates Article 6 "...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
If it does, the solution is straight forward; 1) strike out the bill as unconstitutional or 2) get a super-majority going to amend the Constitution to get rid of that clause to allow legal discrimination of Muslims in public office positions.
I can tell you right now, any Muslim running for office already has association with Islam being used against them - so that's just par for the course at this time - been there, done that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRelEwM4OTo
But all that aside - what does this hypothetical situation have to do with what I'm talking about; namely simply allowing for public full disclosure of the parts of a person's background (including religion or ethnicity) that relates to them having a bias on a given subject. For instance Andrea Mitchell is a journalist - but she's also married to Alan Greenspan. If the issue of the Federal Reserve came up in a discussion she was involved in (especially when he was in charge), that is a relevant piece of info (not because she married a Jewish guy, but the president of the Fed).
I'm not talking about laws excluding all Jews from office - others might be.
Peace.
But little of them are vocal against other Islamist views.
Dont have numbers on Islamist, conservative, moderate, liberal Muslims though.
Jewish groups:
Ultraorthodox (tend to oppose Zionism)
Orthodox (more Zionist than above group).
Conservative (most Zionist)
Liberal Jews (tend to be Zionist)
Progressive/Social Dem (less Zionist)
im aware of the Neturei Karta, Kairites, but there numbers are very small.
There are two flavors of American jooies: those who are Izzy Firster traitors and those who lie about it.
humble Rurik
We could get a conviction before an impartial jury on this statement alone.
Making a set of “factual” statements is usually the path to oblivion if not infamy. That is the only meaning in that statement. Besides, as Iffen points out, he never disputed the power which Jewish groups wield.
Mel Gibson and Marlon Brando felt the wrath? If they did the effects were entirely indiscernible. What happened to Joe Sobran one laments; he wrote some of the most original thoughts on Shakespeare’s Sonnets.
I wrote clearly my views regarding the Holocaust. Based on those views, I’d have you subjected to that uniquely Canadian punishment of fries with dressing and gravy; or roasted Moose heart.
Dear UR friends,
“Tut tut – their not working was nothing – their genius being lost to us all was nothing – normalizing terror is my advocation.”
“I am your friendly assigned UR terrorist keeping you fine folks (beasts) in line – temper you words little ones – don’t say Jew to often - and never forget the “six million lie.”
“See, everything is normal – we Jews are in charge – there are no problems. Just listen to me – mind me – take my guidance - and all will be well.”
"You'll are such a nice little herd."
Your lovely friend (bully) - Sam.
Sam the Sham,
Why pre-judge Editor Ron Unz?
Submit an article!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUjIqFeN7U
Former PA Attorney, Andy Ostrowski Arrested LIVE on FB - Calls Out Judicial Corruption
Are Jews (and Evangelicals) who are adamant in their insistence upon the legitimacy of the State of Israel biased to the point that they should be excluded and labeled?
If, in 2017, Senator Roy Moore introduces a bill that requires any American citizen who professes (or is suspected of professing, or who had any ancestor to the 7th generation that professed) Islam as their faith, and who wishes to enter public service in any capacity, be required to publically disavow the authority and supremacy of the Ulema? Would such legislation just be getting at “bias”?
Hey iffen,
Excluded? Of course not.
Labeled? Sure, why not? As I said – I am biased too – I don’t mind having the label Muslim being placed on me when the issue of Israel or the Middle East comes up because that gives the reader/listener a better perspective as to how to gauge what I am saying; are my biases coming through or not, etc.
Yeah – that legislation is getting at bias – a religious bias for sure (though I don’t get it in the case of the whole ancestors thing – that’s just weird). Then it’ll go to court to see if it violates Article 6 “…no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
If it does, the solution is straight forward; 1) strike out the bill as unconstitutional or 2) get a super-majority going to amend the Constitution to get rid of that clause to allow legal discrimination of Muslims in public office positions.
I can tell you right now, any Muslim running for office already has association with Islam being used against them – so that’s just par for the course at this time – been there, done that:
But all that aside – what does this hypothetical situation have to do with what I’m talking about; namely simply allowing for public full disclosure of the parts of a person’s background (including religion or ethnicity) that relates to them having a bias on a given subject. For instance Andrea Mitchell is a journalist – but she’s also married to Alan Greenspan. If the issue of the Federal Reserve came up in a discussion she was involved in (especially when he was in charge), that is a relevant piece of info (not because she married a Jewish guy, but the president of the Fed).
I’m not talking about laws excluding all Jews from office – others might be.
Peace.
My point was, of course, that along with all the difficulties involved in deciding whom should be captioned and which bias should be labeled, there is the difficulty of deciding who is a Jew and who is not.
When Andrea Mitchell is on the air, should she have a caption that says “Married to a Jew”?
When Janet Yellen is on the air, and she frequently is, should she have a caption that says, “Jew, just like all the other Federal Reserve Chairmen for the last 30 years”?
Bottom line:
I think that all identifiers are relevant and denounce any attempts at suppression. I think that it is definitely important information and I use it every day in my thinking. I don’t even read most anonymous comments here for that reason.
Identification of the speaker as to identities is a completely different issue from what is advocated in this article.
The Media Education Foundation documentary that got my attention was Occupation of the American Mind; it’s about the Israeli PR war in the U.S.. You can see it free here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47823.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47823.htm
Excellent film, and unique in its perspective – deconstructing propaganda. Thanks for posting again!
Why pre-judge Editor Ron Unz?
Submit an article!
Chuck, you’re not far from Wilkes-Barre. Check this out – (Since he’s ‘disappeared’ maybe you can find him.) From what I gather quickly, this (as seems always the case) is an imperfect man battling a compromised system, so he’s all too easily derided. The truth is enigmatic.
Former PA Attorney, Andy Ostrowski Arrested LIVE on FB – Calls Out Judicial Corruption
Thanks and will indeed view the linked video.
With a nifty old Samsung cell phone, I am device-challenged, but as you please Google search (Pennsylvania) and learn how this past Friday, both PA State Police & FBI agents raided the Lackawanna County Prison in response to (decades long) staff sexual abuse of female prisoners and "Officials" who used prisoner "handyman" talents for personal gain.
Still, like my favorite Jewish singer, Neil Diamond, my Samsung still sings blue.
Memorably great comments you offered here, Robing! Thank you from the bottom
of my heart.
“So Jews have to pay a penalty because they are better at lobbying than other groups?”
Jewish and North European cultures are different. Jewish culture is more like south European culture. North European/protestant cultures are/were higher trust and less macho than south European cultures. so the salient point is the mixture of cultures; the effect of cultures on each other, and the backstory about why and how those cultures came to be mixed.
I was going to write “Great Article,” but that is too tame. It’s amazing! Giraldi has all the creds that his “esteemed” colleagues in the media, academia and politics have, but more guts than most of them.
Paul Craig Roberts also cited Jewish-American power in a recent article of his. PCR is always first-rate, but even he was tame compared to this piece by Giraldi.
If only the multi-millionaire football players would “take a knee to American-Jewish power,” we might make some real progress towards greater peace and prosperity in this world! Whimsical–yeah, I know….
Gary Corseri
Mel Gibson and Marlon Brando felt the wrath? If they did the effects were entirely indiscernible.
Dear UR friends,
“Tut tut – their not working was nothing – their genius being lost to us all was nothing – normalizing terror is my advocation.”
“I am your friendly assigned UR terrorist keeping you fine folks (beasts) in line – temper you words little ones – don’t say Jew to often – and never forget the “six million lie.”
“See, everything is normal – we Jews are in charge – there are no problems. Just listen to me – mind me – take my guidance – and all will be well.”
“You’ll are such a nice little herd.”
Your lovely friend (bully) – Sam.
American Conservative is a hack of a site anyways, look at today’s article and amazingly, no mention of Israel being an example of how foreign propaganda is effective.
Is Foreign Propaganda Even Effective?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/russia-is-foreign-propaganda-even-effective/comment-page-1/#comment-8329768
The Russians can dish it out, but don’t expect Americans to swallow everything.
How can one take an article like this serious when the nation that works 24/7 to influence our media, churches and even school systems is not mentioned.
Look at what happened when McGraw Hill published school textbooks showing before and after maps of Palestine, they were hit with the anti-Semitism tag and pulled all those books off the shelf. We are continuously editing history to placate the Jews.
Textbooks destroyed
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/08/mcgraw-hill-education-withdraws-textbook-maps-viewed-anti-israel
McGraw-Hill destroys textbook to placate pro-Israel bloggers
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-placate-pro-israel-bloggers
McGraw-Hill Destroys Textbook After Complaints That Maps Are Anti-Israel
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-after-complaints-maps-are-anti-israel
When Traficant came under attack by a certain lobby, so did the school. It, too, has sanitized its textbooks and teaches from only the Facing (((Our))) History program. The lobby -- or the criminal gang, or cartel, or neocons, call the entity what you will-- does not merely take victims and demand victory, it demands capitulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUjIqFeN7U
Former PA Attorney, Andy Ostrowski Arrested LIVE on FB - Calls Out Judicial Corruption
Robing,
Thanks and will indeed view the linked video.
With a nifty old Samsung cell phone, I am device-challenged, but as you please Google search (Pennsylvania) and learn how this past Friday, both PA State Police & FBI agents raided the Lackawanna County Prison in response to (decades long) staff sexual abuse of female prisoners and “Officials” who used prisoner “handyman” talents for personal gain.
Still, like my favorite Jewish singer, Neil Diamond, my Samsung still sings blue.
Memorably great comments you offered here, Robing! Thank you from the bottom
of my heart.
Labeled? Sure, why not? As I said - I am biased too - I don't mind having the label Muslim being placed on me when the issue of Israel or the Middle East comes up because that gives the reader/listener a better perspective as to how to gauge what I am saying; are my biases coming through or not, etc.Yeah - that legislation is getting at bias - a religious bias for sure (though I don't get it in the case of the whole ancestors thing - that's just weird). Then it'll go to court to see if it violates Article 6 "...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
If it does, the solution is straight forward; 1) strike out the bill as unconstitutional or 2) get a super-majority going to amend the Constitution to get rid of that clause to allow legal discrimination of Muslims in public office positions.
I can tell you right now, any Muslim running for office already has association with Islam being used against them - so that's just par for the course at this time - been there, done that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRelEwM4OTo
But all that aside - what does this hypothetical situation have to do with what I'm talking about; namely simply allowing for public full disclosure of the parts of a person's background (including religion or ethnicity) that relates to them having a bias on a given subject. For instance Andrea Mitchell is a journalist - but she's also married to Alan Greenspan. If the issue of the Federal Reserve came up in a discussion she was involved in (especially when he was in charge), that is a relevant piece of info (not because she married a Jewish guy, but the president of the Fed).
I'm not talking about laws excluding all Jews from office - others might be.
Peace.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/26/opinion/contributors/valerie-plame-antisemitic-state-department.html
Do you support and would you sign this , I'm curious? I truly applaud efforts like this by Jewish citizenry in America, its not easy for them to go against the grain.
Statement of support for Professor Rabab Abdulhadi, and students at SFSU under attack by anti-Arab, anti-Muslim group
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/statement-professor-abdulhadi/
As members of Jewish communities across the United States and around the world, we stand in solidarity with Professor Rabab Ibrahim Abdulhadi, General Union of Palestinian Students and other students and advocates for justice in Palestine at San Francisco State University (SFSU) currently under attack by the Lawfare Project.
Identifying itself as “the legal arm of the pro-Israel community,” this small but well-funded group filed a suit against SFSU on June 19, 2017. Conflating criticism of Israel and its denial of Palestinian rights with anti-Semitism, the Lawfare Project charges SFSU with violating the rights of Jewish students. The intent is familiar: to silence and punish those advocating for Palestinian rights while downplaying the seriousness of anti-Muslim and anti-Arab racism. Indeed, Lawfare Project Director Brooke Goldstein has dismissed Islamophobia as a “made-up term propagated by the Muslim Brotherhood” and denied the existence of Palestinians, remarking that “there’s no such thing as a Palestinian person.”
The lawsuit references a 2016 protest by SFSU students of Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat, who has a history of racism and ethnic cleansing, demolishing Palestinian homes and implementing a plan for massive displacement to forcibly reduce the size of Palestinian population of Jerusalem. After students protested his talk, an organized group of Zionists falsely charged student protesters with being antisemitic and physically threatening toward Jewish students. SFSU conducted an independent investigation and determined these allegations to be unfounded. The lawsuit names the Board of Trustees of the California State University System, SFSU President Leslie Wong, and several other University officials and employees, including Professor Abdulhadi, senior scholar and director of the Arab and Muslim Ethnicities and Diasporas (AMED) Studies program at SFSU. As Jewish people, we object to this attack on Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim groups, an action produced through the cynical misuse of the notion of antisemitism and the pretense of protecting Jewish students from threats that do not exist.
In recent years, Dr. Abdulhadi has faced relentless defamation, intimidation, and assaults because of her advocacy for justice in Palestine as part of what she aptly calls “the indivisibility of justice,” including support for the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement. BDS is a strategy to oppose the occupation of Palestine by Israel–it is a global campaign modeled after the successful anti-Apartheid movement for justice in South Africa and is in no way antisemitic. The Lawfare Project has mischaracterized Dr. Abdulhadi’s denunciation of Israeli colonialism and apartheid policies. Like many other Zionist organizations, it purports to speak on behalf of “the legal rights of the Jewish people around the globe,” despite the fact that growing numbers of Jews object to Israeli state violence and work to hold Israel accountable for the ongoing mistreatment of Palestinians.
We take antisemitism seriously, and so does Professor Abdulhadi. There is nothing inherently antisemitic in promoting Palestinian rights and freedoms, or in opposing the racist violence of the Israeli state–for many, our Jewishness prompts us to take such action in pursuit of justice. Further, Lawfare Project’s tactic of conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism is itself fundamentally antisemitic, because it identifies Jewishness with a litany of racist policies and human rights violations, and marginalizes the ever-increasing numbers of Jews who actively oppose these crimes. Far from doing anything to challenge or eliminate actual antisemitism, the lawsuit bolsters the propagandistic claims of the Israeli government at the expense of academic freedom and the constitutionally protected rights of students and faculty.
We, the undersigned, call upon SFSU President Dr. Les Wong and CSU Chancellor Dr. Tim White to:
1) Refuse to settle this lawsuit or concede any of its slanderous allegations, and conduct a vigorous and principled legal defense against this complaint;
2) Publicly and unambiguously defend the academic freedom and the intellectual reputation of our colleague Prof. Abdulhadi, by making a public statement that clears her name of the vicious and unfounded smear attacks against her, and by doing so to protect the intellectual integrity of SFSU;
3) Publicly, clearly and unambiguously express your moral and financial support for the AMED Studies program and the College of Ethnic Studies at SFSU, and defend their fundamental role in the SFSU educational mission.
As Jewish people related to multiple histories of oppression, we demand justice for all people. We know Professor Abdulhadi as an ally over decades of struggle. Many of us have learned from and worked alongside her. We strongly urge SFSU and the CSU to defend her against these attacks.
To sign the statement please visit here.
By the way, Lawfare is also behind the blacklisting of university students who protest against Israeli occupation trying to prevent them from gaining employment after they graduate by smearing them as antisemites.
Maybe because the oil industry does not have sovereign statesWhen James Baker became secretary of state in 1989, he continued to help remove suspicions about Jews from the national security establishment. And how did he do that? White papers? Free and open discussions in all the national media of importance? So I went on: If he was Irish and had to work on problems related to Ireland or if he was Italian and had to work on Italy, would you ask that question? Do you want us to understand that Irish-Americans vis-à-vis Ireland are equivalent to Jewish Americans vis-à-vis Israel? Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?These attitudes foster an “us versus them” mentality. So here is my contribution to this us vs. them:Indeed, to live a Jewish life one must be committed to the Jewish community, [not like traitors like Plame] but also to others. Jews have an obligation to promote justice, mercy, compassion, tolerance and peace.Because as we all know, non-Jews can’t be committed to their community and to others, much less do they have any humanitarian obligations arising from the milieu of their community.In the United States, diversity of peoples and opinions is our strength as a democracy.In fact, this is actually a weakness. It would be much better to discuss the problem without engaging in mis-direction.Listening to one another, as opposed to labeling one another, can restore civil debate.So, you and others who are like-minded are going to be after TAC like chickens after a Junebug?I made a simple comment on that article in American Conservative saying nothing about Jews but simply that Israel should be in the conversation of that article and they didn’t even approve that lol
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/russia-is-foreign-propaganda-even-effective/comment-page-1/#comment-8329768
The Russians can dish it out, but don't expect Americans to swallow everything.
How can one take an article like this serious when the nation that works 24/7 to influence our media, churches and even school systems is not mentioned.Look at what happened when McGraw Hill published school textbooks showing before and after maps of Palestine, they were hit with the anti-Semitism tag and pulled all those books off the shelf. We are continuously editing history to placate the Jews.
Textbooks destroyed
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/08/mcgraw-hill-education-withdraws-textbook-maps-viewed-anti-israel
McGraw-Hill destroys textbook to placate pro-Israel bloggers
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/rania-khalek/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-placate-pro-israel-bloggers
McGraw-Hill Destroys Textbook After Complaints That Maps Are Anti-Israel
http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/mcgraw-hill-destroys-textbook-after-complaints-maps-are-anti-israel
see Rurik @ #1113
Mr. Traficant was a high school football hero. His high school was only two or three years old, thus the team very young, but as quarterback he led the team to a city-wide victory and established the school as one that played hard, played fair, and displayed spirit and pride. Traficant retained his commitment to the school and his city in the many legislative efforts he undertook on their behalf.
When Traficant came under attack by a certain lobby, so did the school. It, too, has sanitized its textbooks and teaches from only the Facing (((Our))) History program. The lobby — or the criminal gang, or cartel, or neocons, call the entity what you will– does not merely take victims and demand victory, it demands capitulation.
When Traficant came under attack by a certain lobby, so did the school. It, too, has sanitized its textbooks and teaches from only the Facing (((Our))) History program. The lobby -- or the criminal gang, or cartel, or neocons, call the entity what you will-- does not merely take victims and demand victory, it demands capitulation.
Appreciate the info, I was wondering who Traficant was.
Wondering if anyone of you can take a second to read this little entry about Israel by John Michael Greer from the Archdruid Report and give me your thoughts, do you agree, disagree??
“A Cautionary Tale
Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel’s sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it’s America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it’s a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it’s resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel’s survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it’s present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) “Never again”.
Call it Kharma, or simply say: “what goes around, comes around”.
Thanks for sharing.
Peace.
How very interesting – the parallels are substantial.
Historically the Jews implode – they break up into mini-tribes and fight each other. Today in Israel, there is a very real cast system headed by Euro Jews. The only thing that keeps them together is all the help given to them by the diaspora Jews.
There truly is a fanatical element in the Jews makeup. Today fanatical Zionism rules Israel. This will not change without a cataclysm.
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. What is it about the Jews – that the worst in them always prevails?
Protestants tend to support Israel more so than Catholics.
I think:
Catholics supported Israel, in the sense that it gives them their own country, and Europe can be free from Jews. (less tension). in Catholicism Israel is spiritual, not a country or chosen Jews.
Protestants because most think modern Israel is Biblical, end times, return of some messiah, (orthodox and catholics believe this to be the antichrist).
Freemasons because of solomons temple, and stuff like that.
Perhaps I give The Wizards of Tel Aviv too much credit, but they are not in the business of "making strategic blunders."
Besides, even when Israel does make a transparent strategic blunder, for one example, doing & mindlessly covering up their central role in the 9/11 attacks, they simply "move on" minus any serious accountability.
Strategic blunders are made by those nations former-Secretary of (offensive) Defense called "dead enders."
Otherwise, I for one give a bright green bird (Saladin) light to "A Cautionary Tale" for provoking both history-based & long term thought. (Sigh) However, and lest anyone happen to forget, elite and influential secular US Jews encourage the masses to "think-outside-the-box" as long as its external borders are not trespassed.
Very sad for me to say, but few intelligent, conscientious & daring writers trespass. One example for our time is P. Giraldi. And "peace be upon him."
Thank you... frankly I am a pessimistic optimist.
Selah by deception we do war.
Play It Sam – sing Holocaust,
From the article written by Denis Ross:
Clearly, no question – with the Jew Shultz in charge of the State Department – America First went away.
Hmm – earlier in this thread there was talk about metaphorical rats.
Think Peace — Art
Philosophical rats, Arts, philosophical ones, not metaphorical.
"A Cautionary Tale
Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel's sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it's America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it's a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it's resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel's survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it's present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) "Never again".
Call it Kharma, or simply say: "what goes around, comes around".
Wow – that was one of the best summations of the long-term reality of the situation in Israel/Palestine.
Thanks for sharing.
Peace.
Interesting, Mike Johnson.
One aspect that distinguishes Israel from the “Crusader Kingdom” pattern is that Israel has turned on its European sponsors: the very first supporters — maybe not sponsors but certainly supporters — of Jewish settlement in Palestine, was Germany. During that period, Jews and Arabs lived together harmoniously.
WWI ended that.
Germans were not whistling Dixie when they griped of ‘stab in the back.’
Eastern European Jews gambled that Britain would win WWI (they used loaded dice: Chaim Weizmann maneuvered to involve USA in war, in exchange for British promise of a homeland for Jews. So now British are sponsors of the Jewish “Crusader Kingdom.” Indeed, the Brits established the mandate for their own purposes as well: Jews were to be the guardians of important transits to India & elsewhere in British empire.
Well before WWII ended, the Jewish settlers in Palestine turned on the British, harried them, killed a lot of British troops who were trying to keep the peace between Jews and Arabs, until finally the British abandoned the project. see Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944-1948, by Robert Lackner
Enter USA.
This pattern, of Jewish settlers of Israel turning on their sponsors, gives an inkling of how this statement of yours will play out:
You wrote:
Putting on my Swami hat: US will not withdraw its support, Israel will turn on USA. This is a drop-dead certainty.
Less certain but possible is that Zionist Jews will stir up so much turmoil in USA that Jews in USA will be induced to/ scared into leaving USA for Israel. By that time, USA will be an economic basket case, by design. There may even be a hot war/revolution/secessionist movements taking place in USA. Jews will call it antisemitic persecution of Jews and will urge American Jews to leave. Germany 1933 redux.
I don’t think the last part will happen.
Try this scenario: I believe Jews in Israel (and elsewhere) are already planning for the time when they will throw out USA, and they have a new ‘Saladin’ lined up: Saudi Arabia will fill the bill in the short term, providing shit-stirring functions to harry Israel’s restive neighbors and keep them unstable and off-balance, until China has One Belt One Road pretty fully operational and China has fully eclipsed USA as economic superpower, then Israel will complete its link-up with China. Israel is also already planning for alliance with India http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-india-israel-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrR7xR7PzI (Nikki Haley was not chosen for her southern charm).
I was going to ‘predict’ that Israel will ally with Russia, maybe even with Iran, but that’s just a hunch, not based on Israeli documents. If the pattern that I perceive holds true, it’s pretty certain USA will be odd man out.
Fifteen years ago Dennis Ross was the charter chairman of the committee to plan for that eventuality http://powerbase.info/index.php/Jewish_People_Policy_Institute
http://jppi.org.il/new/en/library/publications/#.WcrRHxR7PzI
and especially
http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-policy-paper-china-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrRdxR7PzI
In the past I have expressed that exact same sentiment.
The Jews and Chinese are brother tribalists. They both feel slighted – they both have a giant chip on their shoulders. And they both love money. They both have tribal tunnel vision. (The Jews are bloodier.)
In the next 50 years, the combination of Jew control of Western banking and communications, and the Chinese productive capacity are going to be a one two blow to the world’s prospects for a stability. They will both need more control over the masses to maintain their power.
But in the long run, they will user in the end of the nation state. The breakup of the nation state is already in progress. Different peoples are demanding autonomy. Small local control is gaining steam. Jew corporate globalization and the massive Chinese state will be seen as the enemy of the common folks. The modern economic serfdom of the central banking and 1% ownership of production and communications will end.
The nation state will be replaced by local ownership of goods, services, and government by local folks.
Think Peace --- Art
This article/thread should be published! geokat62, jacques sheete, Mike Johnson, even our sounding board Sam have all offered important perspectives.
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This thread's too long already. Perhaps in a shorter article Priss Factor will connect his/her earlier explanation of the Rainbow Flag displacing the US flag; with the removal of the Confederate flag and monuments, and then with this latest stunt involving football players and to Flag or not to Flag. If the Confederate flag can be banned, then so can the Stars and Stripes. What will replace it?
Hey S2C,
“Ignorance is strength”
I see Merkel was re-elected
Germans were not whistling Dixie when they griped of 'stab in the back.'Eastern European Jews gambled that Britain would win WWI (they used loaded dice: Chaim Weizmann maneuvered to involve USA in war, in exchange for British promise of a homeland for Jews. So now British are sponsors of the Jewish "Crusader Kingdom." Indeed, the Brits established the mandate for their own purposes as well: Jews were to be the guardians of important transits to India & elsewhere in British empire.
Well before WWII ended, the Jewish settlers in Palestine turned on the British, harried them, killed a lot of British troops who were trying to keep the peace between Jews and Arabs, until finally the British abandoned the project. see Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944-1948, by Robert Lackner Enter USA.This pattern, of Jewish settlers of Israel turning on their sponsors, gives an inkling of how this statement of yours will play out: You wrote:Putting on my Swami hat: US will not withdraw its support, Israel will turn on USA. This is a drop-dead certainty.
Less certain but possible is that Zionist Jews will stir up so much turmoil in USA that Jews in USA will be induced to/ scared into leaving USA for Israel. By that time, USA will be an economic basket case, by design. There may even be a hot war/revolution/secessionist movements taking place in USA. Jews will call it antisemitic persecution of Jews and will urge American Jews to leave. Germany 1933 redux.I don't think the last part will happen.Try this scenario: I believe Jews in Israel (and elsewhere) are already planning for the time when they will throw out USA, and they have a new 'Saladin' lined up: Saudi Arabia will fill the bill in the short term, providing shit-stirring functions to harry Israel's restive neighbors and keep them unstable and off-balance, until China has One Belt One Road pretty fully operational and China has fully eclipsed USA as economic superpower, then Israel will complete its link-up with China. Israel is also already planning for alliance with India http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-india-israel-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrR7xR7PzI (Nikki Haley was not chosen for her southern charm). I was going to 'predict' that Israel will ally with Russia, maybe even with Iran, but that's just a hunch, not based on Israeli documents. If the pattern that I perceive holds true, it's pretty certain USA will be odd man out.Fifteen years ago Dennis Ross was the charter chairman of the committee to plan for that eventuality http://powerbase.info/index.php/Jewish_People_Policy_Institutehttp://jppi.org.il/new/en/library/publications/#.WcrRHxR7PzIand especially
http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-policy-paper-china-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrRdxR7PzI
Interesting stuff, I’m going to check those links out.
From the article written by Denis Ross:Clearly, no question - with the Jew Shultz in charge of the State Department – America First went away.
Hmm - earlier in this thread there was talk about metaphorical rats.
Think Peace --- Art
Hmm – earlier in this thread there was talk about metaphorical rats.
Philosophical rats, Arts, philosophical ones, not metaphorical.
Walt and Mearsheimer’s playing field totally changed after their landmark book, The Israel Lobby came out but where some opportunities close, others will open :
After article was rejected and publishers yawned, Walt and Mearsheimer dropped ‘The Israel Lobby’ in 2005
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/powerful-mearsheimer-publishing/
Publication ruined both men’s chances to serve in government or in university administration. Mearsheimer:
I had no interest whatsoever in a government position. But I did think that when we wrote the piece, that it would mean that we would never get a high level government position. Even medium level government position. It would also make it almost impossible for us to get any meaningful administrative job in the academic world.
Mearsheimer was then 59 years old and in Chicago. But Steve Walt was a sprightly 50 and on I-95, on the Harvard springboard to presidential elbows. The book forever changed his horizon:
I was academic dean in the Kennedy School. I think it’s fair to say that both universities did stand by us in the sense that they didn’t put any formal censure on us. There were various ways of what you might call informal marginalization at least for a while, because the leaderships in both universities were very nervous about the fallout. Universities don’t really like controversy very much.
I did understand that this was probably going to eliminate any possibility of government service in my case, which is something I do regret, because it’s something I would have appreciated, had that opportunity presented itself at some point down the road.
Walt went on to say that they had to do it. “If we weren’t willing to do that, then hardly anybody else would be. We couldn’t lose our jobs. We didn’t necessarily need government employment to pay the mortgage.”
The two men actually gave up on the article and book years before it was published because doors kept closing. Here is some of the history.
Mearsheimer spoke about the idea first at the American Political Science Association meetings in Boston in 2002; and a friend said the Atlantic wanted to commission an article on that very subject. The Atlantic magazine assigned Walt and Mearsheimer in 2002. Then it got cold feet and killed the piece in early 2005. At that time, Walt said, the two scholars thought that no other outlet in the United States would publish it, but they could flesh it out as a “short book,” so they consulted a “number” of publishers and a couple of literary agents.
We got what you would call polite interest but nothing you could call enthusiasm. At one point we basically decided to drop the project entirely.
Jesus H. Christ.
After that, though, an editor who had a copy of the piece showed it to a scholar at UCLA who reached out to Mearsheimer and said the London Review of Books might be interested. The LRB version was eventually published in March 2006, and “provoked an immediate firestorm,” Walt said.
Ironically once it provoked that firestorm, suddenly publishers and literary agents recognized that there was a product people were interested in and suddenly they were contacting us and offering us book contracts.
Mearshimer said it was the internet that published that piece as much as the LRB:
The internet was indispensable for making this article available to people all over the world. If this had been published in the London Review of Books in 1985 or 1990 when there was no internet, hardly anybody would have taken notice. But in the age of the internet, this article just ricocheted all over the world very, very quickly.
Rashid Khalidi at Columbia University told me that the morning after the piece had hit the internet, 14 different people had sent him a link for the piece. It was such a big bombshell.
Now here is the sad conclusion. Mearsheimer:
I don’t think we– or anyone else– has had much influence on policy. I think the lobby is still as powerful as ever. It’s now more out in the open, and that’s not necessarily a good thing for a lobby, but it’s still remarkably effective. This is why you saw all those Republicans falling all over themselves in the 2016 Republican primaries to say how devoted they were to Israel, because they understand that you don’t want to cross the lobby.
Or to put that another way: This interview was not on 60 Minutes, MSNBC, or the New York Times!
and you don’t see the contradiction in that?
so it was “factual” and factual all at the same time, eh? Sort of like true lies?
How Talmudic of you Sam
well, what do you expect for a couple of guys who were known as Mr. Christian?
Poutine is not Canadian, it’s Quebecois
Retired flight attendant Rebekah Roth, wrote Methodical Illusion, Methodical Deception, Methodical Conclusion about 9/11. They are written as “fiction” but come from research and inside knowledge of what an actual flight crew would do in those situations, and how none of this protocol was followed at all. Even the vocabulary supposedly used by some of the parties (“air hostess” when flight attendants or even stewardess is what they would be called in American.)
A strange cacophony of enemies has been trying to discredit her because she uses a nom de plume, and some of them even made a porn site with her name. That struck her as hilarious because she a 66 year old grandmother.
The most recent Hagmann interview is one of her best. 9/11 was not only an “inside job.” It was a Mossad/CIA inside job. Not all Jewish, Gentiles involved too, no doubt about it. Perhaps in the latter case, the motives are even lower. Probably no Arabs or Moslems involved at all with the execution of the whole.
We really are in an “Info War” but I think we always have been. The weapons are just faster now.
"A Cautionary Tale
Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel's sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it's America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it's a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it's resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel's survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it's present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) "Never again".
Call it Kharma, or simply say: "what goes around, comes around".
Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
How very interesting – the parallels are substantial.
Historically the Jews implode – they break up into mini-tribes and fight each other. Today in Israel, there is a very real cast system headed by Euro Jews. The only thing that keeps them together is all the help given to them by the diaspora Jews.
There truly is a fanatical element in the Jews makeup. Today fanatical Zionism rules Israel. This will not change without a cataclysm.
Think Peace — Art
p.s. What is it about the Jews – that the worst in them always prevails?
"A Cautionary Tale
Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel's sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it's America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it's a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it's resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel's survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it's present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) "Never again".
Call it Kharma, or simply say: "what goes around, comes around".
Zionism has/had support from secular, religious, imperialist and other groups.
Protestants tend to support Israel more so than Catholics.
I think:
Catholics supported Israel, in the sense that it gives them their own country, and Europe can be free from Jews. (less tension). in Catholicism Israel is spiritual, not a country or chosen Jews.
Protestants because most think modern Israel is Biblical, end times, return of some messiah, (orthodox and catholics believe this to be the antichrist).
Freemasons because of solomons temple, and stuff like that.
Labeled? Sure, why not? As I said - I am biased too - I don't mind having the label Muslim being placed on me when the issue of Israel or the Middle East comes up because that gives the reader/listener a better perspective as to how to gauge what I am saying; are my biases coming through or not, etc.Yeah - that legislation is getting at bias - a religious bias for sure (though I don't get it in the case of the whole ancestors thing - that's just weird). Then it'll go to court to see if it violates Article 6 "...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
If it does, the solution is straight forward; 1) strike out the bill as unconstitutional or 2) get a super-majority going to amend the Constitution to get rid of that clause to allow legal discrimination of Muslims in public office positions.
I can tell you right now, any Muslim running for office already has association with Islam being used against them - so that's just par for the course at this time - been there, done that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRelEwM4OTo
But all that aside - what does this hypothetical situation have to do with what I'm talking about; namely simply allowing for public full disclosure of the parts of a person's background (including religion or ethnicity) that relates to them having a bias on a given subject. For instance Andrea Mitchell is a journalist - but she's also married to Alan Greenspan. If the issue of the Federal Reserve came up in a discussion she was involved in (especially when he was in charge), that is a relevant piece of info (not because she married a Jewish guy, but the president of the Fed).
I'm not talking about laws excluding all Jews from office - others might be.
Peace.
Sorry, I misremembered. If there is a subconscious, I added the 3rd and 4th to get to seven or in light of what genetics informs us these days, I took it upon myself to make a little correction on His behalf.
My point was, of course, that along with all the difficulties involved in deciding whom should be captioned and which bias should be labeled, there is the difficulty of deciding who is a Jew and who is not.
When Andrea Mitchell is on the air, should she have a caption that says “Married to a Jew”?
When Janet Yellen is on the air, and she frequently is, should she have a caption that says, “Jew, just like all the other Federal Reserve Chairmen for the last 30 years”?
Bottom line:
I think that all identifiers are relevant and denounce any attempts at suppression. I think that it is definitely important information and I use it every day in my thinking. I don’t even read most anonymous comments here for that reason.
Identification of the speaker as to identities is a completely different issue from what is advocated in this article.
The answer is an unqualified – YES - if the audience is unaware that she is a Jew – then they should be informed.
She being a Jew is highly relevant to the America people. The fact that Jews have run the Fed for over thirty years strait is even more relevant.
For the last thirty years these Jews have risked our monetary system with ever more debt – personal and government. Savers now get near ZERO interest – and the 1% get near interest free money. Wall Street syphons off a slice of almost every transaction in America.
There are now three things that are inevitable – death, taxes, and Wall Street getting a slice off of every transaction.
The Jews have done this – it is relevant to all Americans.
Think Peace --- Art
p.s. So you openly oppose free speech!
Germans were not whistling Dixie when they griped of 'stab in the back.'Eastern European Jews gambled that Britain would win WWI (they used loaded dice: Chaim Weizmann maneuvered to involve USA in war, in exchange for British promise of a homeland for Jews. So now British are sponsors of the Jewish "Crusader Kingdom." Indeed, the Brits established the mandate for their own purposes as well: Jews were to be the guardians of important transits to India & elsewhere in British empire.
Well before WWII ended, the Jewish settlers in Palestine turned on the British, harried them, killed a lot of British troops who were trying to keep the peace between Jews and Arabs, until finally the British abandoned the project. see Zionist Terrorism and Imperial Response: British Policies towards Jewish Resistance in Palestine 1944-1948, by Robert Lackner Enter USA.This pattern, of Jewish settlers of Israel turning on their sponsors, gives an inkling of how this statement of yours will play out: You wrote:Putting on my Swami hat: US will not withdraw its support, Israel will turn on USA. This is a drop-dead certainty.
Less certain but possible is that Zionist Jews will stir up so much turmoil in USA that Jews in USA will be induced to/ scared into leaving USA for Israel. By that time, USA will be an economic basket case, by design. There may even be a hot war/revolution/secessionist movements taking place in USA. Jews will call it antisemitic persecution of Jews and will urge American Jews to leave. Germany 1933 redux.I don't think the last part will happen.Try this scenario: I believe Jews in Israel (and elsewhere) are already planning for the time when they will throw out USA, and they have a new 'Saladin' lined up: Saudi Arabia will fill the bill in the short term, providing shit-stirring functions to harry Israel's restive neighbors and keep them unstable and off-balance, until China has One Belt One Road pretty fully operational and China has fully eclipsed USA as economic superpower, then Israel will complete its link-up with China. Israel is also already planning for alliance with India http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-india-israel-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrR7xR7PzI (Nikki Haley was not chosen for her southern charm). I was going to 'predict' that Israel will ally with Russia, maybe even with Iran, but that's just a hunch, not based on Israeli documents. If the pattern that I perceive holds true, it's pretty certain USA will be odd man out.Fifteen years ago Dennis Ross was the charter chairman of the committee to plan for that eventuality http://powerbase.info/index.php/Jewish_People_Policy_Institutehttp://jppi.org.il/new/en/library/publications/#.WcrRHxR7PzIand especially
http://jppi.org.il/new/en/article/english-policy-paper-china-and-the-jewish-people/#.WcrRdxR7PzI
until China has One Belt One Road pretty fully operational and China has fully eclipsed USA as economic superpower, then Israel will complete its link-up with China.
In the past I have expressed that exact same sentiment.
The Jews and Chinese are brother tribalists. They both feel slighted – they both have a giant chip on their shoulders. And they both love money. They both have tribal tunnel vision. (The Jews are bloodier.)
In the next 50 years, the combination of Jew control of Western banking and communications, and the Chinese productive capacity are going to be a one two blow to the world’s prospects for a stability. They will both need more control over the masses to maintain their power.
But in the long run, they will user in the end of the nation state. The breakup of the nation state is already in progress. Different peoples are demanding autonomy. Small local control is gaining steam. Jew corporate globalization and the massive Chinese state will be seen as the enemy of the common folks. The modern economic serfdom of the central banking and 1% ownership of production and communications will end.
The nation state will be replaced by local ownership of goods, services, and government by local folks.
Think Peace — Art
My point was, of course, that along with all the difficulties involved in deciding whom should be captioned and which bias should be labeled, there is the difficulty of deciding who is a Jew and who is not.
When Andrea Mitchell is on the air, should she have a caption that says “Married to a Jew”?
When Janet Yellen is on the air, and she frequently is, should she have a caption that says, “Jew, just like all the other Federal Reserve Chairmen for the last 30 years”?
Bottom line:
I think that all identifiers are relevant and denounce any attempts at suppression. I think that it is definitely important information and I use it every day in my thinking. I don’t even read most anonymous comments here for that reason.
Identification of the speaker as to identities is a completely different issue from what is advocated in this article.
When Janet Yellen is on the air, and she frequently is, should she have a caption that says, “Jew, just like all the other Federal Reserve Chairmen for the last 30 years”?
The answer is an unqualified – YES – if the audience is unaware that she is a Jew – then they should be informed.
She being a Jew is highly relevant to the America people. The fact that Jews have run the Fed for over thirty years strait is even more relevant.
For the last thirty years these Jews have risked our monetary system with ever more debt – personal and government. Savers now get near ZERO interest – and the 1% get near interest free money. Wall Street syphons off a slice of almost every transaction in America.
There are now three things that are inevitable – death, taxes, and Wall Street getting a slice off of every transaction.
The Jews have done this – it is relevant to all Americans.
Think Peace — Art
p.s. So you openly oppose free speech!
Aw shucks!
$30 million McCuck bucks suck hind teat in Sweet Home Alabama
Hobbits Win! Hobbits Win! Hobbits Win!
"A Cautionary Tale
Modern Israel is simply a re-incarnation of the Crusader kingdoms. It is an invasion from the West, mainly Europe, supported by the West, to establish a religious-based government in the area. The first time around, it was Roman Catholic, this time, it is Jewish, but the dynamic is the same.
The Crusader kingdoms lasted a couple of hundred years, which is long, measured against the span of a single human life, but rather short, considering the whole sweep of history. Those Crusader kingdoms, like modern Israel, could only be established, and continue to survive, so long as their Western base (at that time, Europe) continued to provide support.
Given the ups and downs that all great empires experience, it is only a matter of time before Israel's sponsors and benefactors in the West (this time, it's America), are distracted by some other problem, whether it's a war, a depression, or some other difficulty, and will be unable, or unwilling to maintain support. It is also just a matter of time before the Muslim world has another of it's resurgences. It has happened before, including the original period of the spread of Islam, the age of Saladin, (when the Crusader kingdoms were wiped out), and during the heyday of the Ottomans.
When those conditions come together, modern Israel, as we know it, will disappear. That is not to say, however that the population of Israel will disappear. There, are, after all, Maronite Christians still living in Lebanon, and elsewhere in the Middle East, including present day Israel, West Bank, and Gaza. There are even a few Assyrians in the region, even though their empire collapsed a couple of millenia ago.
The fate of the Jewish people in Israel, as opposed to the Jewish state, itself, will depend upon how Israelis treat the majority population of the Middle East. If the Israelis act humanely and fairly, they will most likely be living there, raising their families, and practicing their culture, long after the present Israeli regime collapses, just as they did in many Middle Eastern countries for centuries, prior to 1948.
But the long term danger is that during their present Crusader kingdom phase; the Israelis will act so badly, will develop such a reputation, and will be hated so much, as a result of their actions, that when Israel's survival conditions no longer exist (i.e., U.S. support); and when a new Saladin emerges, they will be thrown out of the Middle East, entirely.
Israel wins short-term tactical victories, but is making a huge strategic blunder, with it's present policies. The people of Gaza, and Jenin, and Hebron, are going to remember what has happened to them for generations. They will probably build museums to keep the memorabilia of their suffering, and they will teach their children to say: (in the ultimate irony) "Never again".
Call it Kharma, or simply say: "what goes around, comes around".
Very interesting, Mike Johnson.
Perhaps I give The Wizards of Tel Aviv too much credit, but they are not in the business of “making strategic blunders.”
Besides, even when Israel does make a transparent strategic blunder, for one example, doing & mindlessly covering up their central role in the 9/11 attacks, they simply “move on” minus any serious accountability.
Strategic blunders are made by those nations former-Secretary of (offensive) Defense called “dead enders.”
Otherwise, I for one give a bright green bird (Saladin) light to “A Cautionary Tale” for provoking both history-based & long term thought. (Sigh) However, and lest anyone happen to forget, elite and influential secular US Jews encourage the masses to “think-outside-the-box” as long as its external borders are not trespassed.
Very sad for me to say, but few intelligent, conscientious & daring writers trespass. One example for our time is P. Giraldi. And “peace be upon him.”
Thank you… frankly I am a pessimistic optimist.
Selah by deception we do war.
Did y’all get a chance to read the article our ardent hasbarist linked to in his response to Talha (see comment #1128)? It was written by Israel’s lawyer, Dennis Ross.
I suspect he directed it to Talha because of this sentence:
Totally unacceptable. Dropping bombs on them is just fine, but don’t you dare try singling them out as extremists.
While it’s worth reading the entire article, I’ve reproduced the more pertinent sections with my commentary provided in [square brackets]:
‘Good at lobbying’：ROFLMAO at that very third-rate weasel wording.
Although Ely Wiesel’s surname would be better rendered as Weasel, since he was demonstrably a iiar, at times forced to admit that by himself.
Iffen, you are to making good postings at times, try to suppress your zio-neocon inclining, think a little outside that?
This is a reply to “Philip Giraldi’s Remedy for Wars” by Shamir, but he does not post it!!!!!!!
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This article is biased because he has ignored the power of the tribe worldwide. He writes:
[Did the US keep out of wars before the Rise of Jews in late 1960s?]
He deliberately separates the jews in America from the tribe all over the world. He suddenly forgets that American power rose after WWII to replace the criminal British empire in late 1969, especially in the rich resource region of the Middle East. the Jewish power was on the rise since 1880’s in AMERICA, where they established themselves through slave trade, garment industry, banking and finance, Hollywood and fashion industry, beauty industry.
The British Empire controlled by Rothschild family, where this family funded their wars to colonize countries in Asia, Africa and the so called Middle East to rob them of their resources which was very important for accumulation of wealth and building their market and creating jobs for their people, like TODAY. . Behind the 1953 coup in Iran was British empire controlled by Jewish Rothschild family where they had important interest in Oil industry, and the new empire going to replace the old one. British Empire could complete with the fresh one which soon going to be controlled by the same tribe.
Nathan Rothschild said:
[Nathan said (1777-1836): "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." ]
This shows that British Empire like American Empire is controlled by the economic power of the Jewish tribe. The tribe’s power is their WEALTH accumulated by capitalism, a usuary system, where Sombat called it JEWISH.
The “new world order” is very much designed by people whose wealth is based on control of resources and markets around the world rubbing nation after nation. That’s why this group and their extension want to erect “world government” with ONE CENTRAL BANK and control of worldwide resources to keep the world under their hegemony.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CUT THEIR ECONOMIC POWER BASE. BOYCOTT THEIR GOODS.
Palestine was bought by Rothschild family’s money to have a FOOT in rich resource region to put one against the other based on ethnic, religion diversity to control their resources . We all ARE UNITED AGAINST THE ENEMY AND THEIR SERVANTS.
The Fashion industry, like, Hollywood and Banking system is under their control.
http://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/the-jewish-controlled-fashion-industry/
Elsewhere, Estelle Sommers founded the Capezio dancewear brand, Ann Klein [originally Hannah Golofski] has become a widely recognized “designer” brand, as has Donna Karan and her DKNY label. Isaac Mizrahi and Tommy Hilfiger are other famous Jewish fashion brands, as is that of the Iranian-Jewish mogul of perfume and self-promotion, Bijan (Pakzad), also known as the “designer of what’s probably the world’s most expensive menswear.” [DORFMAN] Rudi Gernreich and John Weitz are other Jews who have been prominent fashion designers. Designer Arnold Scassi’s last name is Isaacs (his original surname) spelled backwards. Kenneth Cole (originally: Kenneth Cohen) developed popular lines of shoes, belts, and leather jackets. Judith Lieber manufacturers luxury handbags.
Liz Claiborne founded her company with her Jewish husband Arthur Ortenberg and Leonard Boxer. She retired in 1989 whereupon Jerome Chazen became chairman of the firm. Other prominent executives in the company are Harvey Falk and Jay Margolis. In 1988, Nicholas Coleridge listed the American “power buyers” (those who buy for stores) of the fashion world. Most of the people listed are Jewish, and a huge percentage of the stores are Jewish-owned:
“Daria Retain, fashion director of Neiman Marcus; Ellin Saltzman, director of fashion and product development at Saks Fifth Avenue; James Fowler and Mary Talbot, vice-president and design buyer of Jacobsons Stores, Michigan; Kaye von Bergen, designer buyer of Bendel’s; Lois Ziegler and Sue Bicksler, fashion directors of J.C. Penney; Bernie Ozer, vice-president of the Associated Merchandising Corporation; Barbara Weiser of Charivari; Barbara Warner, formerly of Barneys, who virtually single-handedly turned the store into an upbeat designer terminus; Lynne Manulis, president of Marthas; Joan Weinstein, president of Ultimo; James Sullivan, fashion director of Jordan Marsh; Missy Lomonaco, fashion director of Bonwit Teller; Betty Hahn, designer buyer of Garfinkels, Washington; Jean Navin, vice-president and fashion director of Lord & Taylor; Kal Ruttenstein, vice-president and fashion director of Bloomingdales; Terry Melville, fashion director of Macy’s; and Sal Ruggerio of Marshall Field, Chicago.” [COLERIDGE, p. 259]
In 2000, the National Post noted the heart of the garment district in Montreal, Canada — the Jewish center of Chabenel Street. The article addressed the bribery of store buyers by clothing makers and its long tradition in the Jewish community. (In Yiddish: “Az men shmert nit, fort men nit.” — If you don’t bribe, you don’t ride). Kickbacks, noted Doug Robinson, a Canadian fraud squad officer is “a dirty secret of the industry.” [KUITENBROWER, P., 4-1-2000, p. D1]
Elsewhere, Israeli-born Elia “Tahari is among the most respected names in department and specialty stores.” [HOOD, p. 1E] In California Severin Wunderman’s company, the Severin Group ($500 million a year in sales), remains “the sole manufacturer, marketer, and distributor of Gucci timepieces and Fila sports watches.” These products’ retail cost run between $225 and $14,000 apiece. “The word ‘demanding’ is repeatedly used to describe [Severin]. In addition to shouting and breaking things, he has tossed more than one cellular phone out the window of his chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce.” The head of the French luxury jewelry firm, Cartier, is also Jewish: Alain Dominique Perrin. In 1996, during a visit to Israel, he announced “plans to donate an unspecified percentage of the revenue from the sale of $10 million worth of jewelry to WIZO [the World International Zionist Organization].” [CASHMAN, 1996, p. 14] Kenneth Jay Lane, “the fake jewelry king,” [HORYN, C., 12-12-99, sec. 9, p. 1] is also Jewish. Nudie Cohen, head of Nudie’s, was the “costume designer who pasted Nashville in rhinestones in the 1940s and ’50s.” [LONGINO, M., 9-8-2000] He supplied the Hollywood/Las Vegas cowboy image to people like Roy Rogers and Gene Autry. Others fitting such stars were “Nathan Turk and his East coast counterpart Rodeo Ben (Bernard Lichtenstein), both Eastern European immigrants” whose “clothes brought western wear into its heyday.” [MOORE, B., 2001, p. E3] Adrian’s was the logo of Adrian Goldberg, a famous dress designer for Hollywood in the 1930s and ’40s. Sidney Toledano is today’s president and CEO of Christian Dior.
http://americanjewisharchives.org/publications/journal/PDF/2012_64_01_00_cohen.pdf
do you have similar research on Jews in medicine?
Jews run the organization that decides who goes to medical school.
Jewish firms -- many of them based in Israel and run for the benefit of Israel -- figure large in off-patent medicines.
It was Jews who first took hospitals from an eleemocenary or at least non-profit basis to a for-profit system, only about 30 years ago. It was when providing medical care became a for-profit industry that "health insurance" became first lady Hillary Clinton's hobby: how to make it possible, even necessary, for the Masses to become paying customers of Jewish run for profit hospitals, and have US taxpayers guarantee and subsidize payment?
Can't really put my finger on it, but reminds me of blaming tobacco companies executives/marketing/sales people for smoking induced health issues.
Or, blaming food companies executives/marketing/sales people for being overweight.
Feels......disingenuous.
Jews rule media. Media is this/that.
Fine....don't read/buy/watch/enjoy it.
Or, more likely....I do like that, and I do know it's bad, but, I also do have that "Jews did it". No blame on myself. None.
US itself was created by constant expansion, mostly by force of arms. Since its creation. Since The War of 1812.
Blaming Jews for all that is just......not correct.
Nobody disputes they are what they are.
Cynic would say they are just better in that then other competitors in the same game.
But, blaming post Cold War US foreign policy just on Jews is ...wrong.
There is their portion of blame, of course.
But, there is a lot to blame other players too.
I guess that properly appointing the blame on all the players would be good.
Maybe starting with some of core US values wouldn't be a bad idea?
Pure projection.
******
This article is biased because he has ignored the power of the tribe worldwide. He writes:
[Did the US keep out of wars before the Rise of Jews in late 1960s?]
He deliberately separates the jews in America from the tribe all over the world. He suddenly forgets that American power rose after WWII to replace the criminal British empire in late 1969, especially in the rich resource region of the Middle East. the Jewish power was on the rise since 1880’s in AMERICA, where they established themselves through slave trade, garment industry, banking and finance, Hollywood and fashion industry, beauty industry.
The British Empire controlled by Rothschild family, where this family funded their wars to colonize countries in Asia, Africa and the so called Middle East to rob them of their resources which was very important for accumulation of wealth and building their market and creating jobs for their people, like TODAY. . Behind the 1953 coup in Iran was British empire controlled by Jewish Rothschild family where they had important interest in Oil industry, and the new empire going to replace the old one. British Empire could complete with the fresh one which soon going to be controlled by the same tribe.
Nathan Rothschild said:
[Nathan said (1777-1836): "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." ]
This shows that British Empire like American Empire is controlled by the economic power of the Jewish tribe. The tribe’s power is their WEALTH accumulated by capitalism, a usuary system, where Sombat called it JEWISH.
The “new world order” is very much designed by people whose wealth is based on control of resources and markets around the world rubbing nation after nation. That’s why this group and their extension want to erect “world government” with ONE CENTRAL BANK and control of worldwide resources to keep the world under their hegemony.
IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CUT THEIR ECONOMIC POWER BASE. BOYCOTT THEIR GOODS.
Palestine was bought by Rothschild family’s money to have a FOOT in rich resource region to put one against the other based on ethnic, religion diversity to control their resources . We all ARE UNITED AGAINST THE ENEMY AND THEIR SERVANTS.
The Fashion industry, like, Hollywood and Banking system is under their control.
http://theunhivedmind.com/UHM/the-jewish-controlled-fashion-industry/
Elsewhere, Estelle Sommers founded the Capezio dancewear brand, Ann Klein [originally Hannah Golofski] has become a widely recognized “designer” brand, as has Donna Karan and her DKNY label. Isaac Mizrahi and Tommy Hilfiger are other famous Jewish fashion brands, as is that of the Iranian-Jewish mogul of perfume and self-promotion, Bijan (Pakzad), also known as the “designer of what’s probably the world’s most expensive menswear.” [DORFMAN] Rudi Gernreich and John Weitz are other Jews who have been prominent fashion designers. Designer Arnold Scassi’s last name is Isaacs (his original surname) spelled backwards. Kenneth Cole (originally: Kenneth Cohen) developed popular lines of shoes, belts, and leather jackets. Judith Lieber manufacturers luxury handbags.
Liz Claiborne founded her company with her Jewish husband Arthur Ortenberg and Leonard Boxer. She retired in 1989 whereupon Jerome Chazen became chairman of the firm. Other prominent executives in the company are Harvey Falk and Jay Margolis. In 1988, Nicholas Coleridge listed the American “power buyers” (those who buy for stores) of the fashion world. Most of the people listed are Jewish, and a huge percentage of the stores are Jewish-owned:
“Daria Retain, fashion director of Neiman Marcus; Ellin Saltzman, director of fashion and product development at Saks Fifth Avenue; James Fowler and Mary Talbot, vice-president and design buyer of Jacobsons Stores, Michigan; Kaye von Bergen, designer buyer of Bendel’s; Lois Ziegler and Sue Bicksler, fashion directors of J.C. Penney; Bernie Ozer, vice-president of the Associated Merchandising Corporation; Barbara Weiser of Charivari; Barbara Warner, formerly of Barneys, who virtually single-handedly turned the store into an upbeat designer terminus; Lynne Manulis, president of Marthas; Joan Weinstein, president of Ultimo; James Sullivan, fashion director of Jordan Marsh; Missy Lomonaco, fashion director of Bonwit Teller; Betty Hahn, designer buyer of Garfinkels, Washington; Jean Navin, vice-president and fashion director of Lord & Taylor; Kal Ruttenstein, vice-president and fashion director of Bloomingdales; Terry Melville, fashion director of Macy’s; and Sal Ruggerio of Marshall Field, Chicago.” [COLERIDGE, p. 259]
In 2000, the National Post noted the heart of the garment district in Montreal, Canada — the Jewish center of Chabenel Street. The article addressed the bribery of store buyers by clothing makers and its long tradition in the Jewish community. (In Yiddish: “Az men shmert nit, fort men nit.” — If you don’t bribe, you don’t ride). Kickbacks, noted Doug Robinson, a Canadian fraud squad officer is “a dirty secret of the industry.” [KUITENBROWER, P., 4-1-2000, p. D1]
Elsewhere, Israeli-born Elia “Tahari is among the most respected names in department and specialty stores.” [HOOD, p. 1E] In California Severin Wunderman’s company, the Severin Group ($500 million a year in sales), remains “the sole manufacturer, marketer, and distributor of Gucci timepieces and Fila sports watches.” These products’ retail cost run between $225 and $14,000 apiece. “The word ‘demanding’ is repeatedly used to describe [Severin]. In addition to shouting and breaking things, he has tossed more than one cellular phone out the window of his chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce.” The head of the French luxury jewelry firm, Cartier, is also Jewish: Alain Dominique Perrin. In 1996, during a visit to Israel, he announced “plans to donate an unspecified percentage of the revenue from the sale of $10 million worth of jewelry to WIZO [the World International Zionist Organization].” [CASHMAN, 1996, p. 14] Kenneth Jay Lane, “the fake jewelry king,” [HORYN, C., 12-12-99, sec. 9, p. 1] is also Jewish. Nudie Cohen, head of Nudie’s, was the “costume designer who pasted Nashville in rhinestones in the 1940s and ’50s.” [LONGINO, M., 9-8-2000] He supplied the Hollywood/Las Vegas cowboy image to people like Roy Rogers and Gene Autry. Others fitting such stars were “Nathan Turk and his East coast counterpart Rodeo Ben (Bernard Lichtenstein), both Eastern European immigrants” whose “clothes brought western wear into its heyday.” [MOORE, B., 2001, p. E3] Adrian’s was the logo of Adrian Goldberg, a famous dress designer for Hollywood in the 1930s and ’40s. Sidney Toledano is today’s president and CEO of Christian Dior.
http://americanjewisharchives.org/publications/journal/PDF/2012_64_01_00_cohen.pdf
great bit of history, anomos
do you have similar research on Jews in medicine?
Jews run the organization that decides who goes to medical school.
Jewish firms — many of them based in Israel and run for the benefit of Israel — figure large in off-patent medicines.
It was Jews who first took hospitals from an eleemocenary or at least non-profit basis to a for-profit system, only about 30 years ago. It was when providing medical care became a for-profit industry that “health insurance” became first lady Hillary Clinton’s hobby: how to make it possible, even necessary, for the Masses to become paying customers of Jewish run for profit hospitals, and have US taxpayers guarantee and subsidize payment?
Moderators, at least one of the pro-zionist noobs, user name ‘Helen Heyer’s Ghost’, is employing a novel form of malware. I check my ‘running applications’, it only has mail and this, but there is a droning lecture on Zionism, in the background, too. From my admin. experience, I would suggest permanently banning that user as a good idea. Test it yourselves (but they will probably stopping it as soon as seeing this).
Excuse me for going into a small rant.
The photo of Helen Heyer in initial press has no resemblance to the pile of blubber who threw her hippopotamus-like form over the bonnet of a car.
Any net-aware knows of ‘fat girl angle shot’, but in the case of the published face pic of ‘Heyer’, and the pics of her blubbery, corpulent flab on the bonnet of a car, there is no resemblance. She also seems to have thrown her hippopotamus-shaped body there, and died of a heart attack (from too much chocolate and fried chicken).
Totally agree in your vission of Trump administration and the way hard core conservatives who rised him to power through their media outlets want to thrown the ball to other place with respect to his guilt on all what he has done so far.
Of course, many the Jews have huge influence in the US stablishment, but this not discharge the many Americans, military, academic or civilians who join them in destabilizing the Middle East and the whole world for their profit.
If you are in any way questionable about Jews - you are culled out before you reach the top.
Today there are no US generals who question working for Israel - PERIOD.
Play the Jew game or give up your future among the elite.
Think Peace --- Art
So….all this fuss is about WHO is driving contemporary wars waged by U.S. military machine?
It’s not about imperial wars themselves, but, WHO is driving them.
Makes sense.
If Anglo-Saxon elite was driving them, as before, say, 1990s, then it would be O.K.
Looks, for an outsider, as internal squabble between two power groups.
Populari vs Optimati………
For non-Romans, what’s the difference I wonder?
Actually…..actually….maybe it would be, for outsiders, more beneficial to have Jews then Anglos driving them.
Just a thought.
For Americans, true, it could be different.
Your faux-ironic tone is weak. Whatever may or may not have taken place in the past, the Jew warmonger is the reality of the present. And your analogy to Rome is also weak. There was no equivalent of international Jewry within the Roman state, so the Jewishness of the US War Party is quite relevant to "an outsider." Look around you in Australia (or wherever) and you see pretty much the same thing.
Sam,
Do you support and would you sign this , I’m curious? I truly applaud efforts like this by Jewish citizenry in America, its not easy for them to go against the grain.
Statement of support for Professor Rabab Abdulhadi, and students at SFSU under attack by anti-Arab, anti-Muslim group
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/09/statement-professor-abdulhadi/
As members of Jewish communities across the United States and around the world, we stand in solidarity with Professor Rabab Ibrahim Abdulhadi, General Union of Palestinian Students and other students and advocates for justice in Palestine at San Francisco State University (SFSU) currently under attack by the Lawfare Project.
Identifying itself as “the legal arm of the pro-Israel community,” this small but well-funded group filed a suit against SFSU on June 19, 2017. Conflating criticism of Israel and its denial of Palestinian rights with anti-Semitism, the Lawfare Project charges SFSU with violating the rights of Jewish students. The intent is familiar: to silence and punish those advocating for Palestinian rights while downplaying the seriousness of anti-Muslim and anti-Arab racism. Indeed, Lawfare Project Director Brooke Goldstein has dismissed Islamophobia as a “made-up term propagated by the Muslim Brotherhood” and denied the existence of Palestinians, remarking that “there’s no such thing as a Palestinian person.”
The lawsuit references a 2016 protest by SFSU students of Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat, who has a history of racism and ethnic cleansing, demolishing Palestinian homes and implementing a plan for massive displacement to forcibly reduce the size of Palestinian population of Jerusalem. After students protested his talk, an organized group of Zionists falsely charged student protesters with being antisemitic and physically threatening toward Jewish students. SFSU conducted an independent investigation and determined these allegations to be unfounded. The lawsuit names the Board of Trustees of the California State University System, SFSU President Leslie Wong, and several other University officials and employees, including Professor Abdulhadi, senior scholar and director of the Arab and Muslim Ethnicities and Diasporas (AMED) Studies program at SFSU. As Jewish people, we object to this attack on Palestinian, Arab, and Muslim groups, an action produced through the cynical misuse of the notion of antisemitism and the pretense of protecting Jewish students from threats that do not exist.
In recent years, Dr. Abdulhadi has faced relentless defamation, intimidation, and assaults because of her advocacy for justice in Palestine as part of what she aptly calls “the indivisibility of justice,” including support for the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement. BDS is a strategy to oppose the occupation of Palestine by Israel–it is a global campaign modeled after the successful anti-Apartheid movement for justice in South Africa and is in no way antisemitic. The Lawfare Project has mischaracterized Dr. Abdulhadi’s denunciation of Israeli colonialism and apartheid policies. Like many other Zionist organizations, it purports to speak on behalf of “the legal rights of the Jewish people around the globe,” despite the fact that growing numbers of Jews object to Israeli state violence and work to hold Israel accountable for the ongoing mistreatment of Palestinians.
We take antisemitism seriously, and so does Professor Abdulhadi. There is nothing inherently antisemitic in promoting Palestinian rights and freedoms, or in opposing the racist violence of the Israeli state–for many, our Jewishness prompts us to take such action in pursuit of justice. Further, Lawfare Project’s tactic of conflating criticism of Israel with antisemitism is itself fundamentally antisemitic, because it identifies Jewishness with a litany of racist policies and human rights violations, and marginalizes the ever-increasing numbers of Jews who actively oppose these crimes. Far from doing anything to challenge or eliminate actual antisemitism, the lawsuit bolsters the propagandistic claims of the Israeli government at the expense of academic freedom and the constitutionally protected rights of students and faculty.
We, the undersigned, call upon SFSU President Dr. Les Wong and CSU Chancellor Dr. Tim White to:
1) Refuse to settle this lawsuit or concede any of its slanderous allegations, and conduct a vigorous and principled legal defense against this complaint;
2) Publicly and unambiguously defend the academic freedom and the intellectual reputation of our colleague Prof. Abdulhadi, by making a public statement that clears her name of the vicious and unfounded smear attacks against her, and by doing so to protect the intellectual integrity of SFSU;
3) Publicly, clearly and unambiguously express your moral and financial support for the AMED Studies program and the College of Ethnic Studies at SFSU, and defend their fundamental role in the SFSU educational mission.
As Jewish people related to multiple histories of oppression, we demand justice for all people. We know Professor Abdulhadi as an ally over decades of struggle. Many of us have learned from and worked alongside her. We strongly urge SFSU and the CSU to defend her against these attacks.
To sign the statement please visit here.
By the way, Lawfare is also behind the blacklisting of university students who protest against Israeli occupation trying to prevent them from gaining employment after they graduate by smearing them as antisemites.
It's not about imperial wars themselves, but, WHO is driving them.
Makes sense.
If Anglo-Saxon elite was driving them, as before, say, 1990s, then it would be O.K.
Looks, for an outsider, as internal squabble between two power groups.
Populari vs Optimati.........
For non-Romans, what's the difference I wonder?
Actually.....actually....maybe it would be, for outsiders, more beneficial to have Jews then Anglos driving them.
Just a thought.
For Americans, true, it could be different.
Yeah, it’s about who is driving them. Why would “who” not be part of the issue? In any case Phil Giraldi has described and condemned our imperial wars many times.
Your faux-ironic tone is weak. Whatever may or may not have taken place in the past, the Jew warmonger is the reality of the present. And your analogy to Rome is also weak. There was no equivalent of international Jewry within the Roman state, so the Jewishness of the US War Party is quite relevant to “an outsider.” Look around you in Australia (or wherever) and you see pretty much the same thing.
We agree there.
Oh they did take place for sure.
So, should we replace “the Jew warmonger” with “the Anglo warmonger” that would be O.K?
I mean…it was O.K. before, apparently.
Following the same logic, if we, somehow, replace “the Jew warmonger” with “the Anglo warmonger”….what EXACTLY people of the world get?
Not Americans, they know what they get (as before….”make American great again“, but the rest of the world?
Let’s keep focus here.
At the moment we, in colonies, do our vassal duties to the current Empire. It is directed, for the sake of conversation, by American Jews.
So…pray tell….what would be a difference for, say, Aussies, if the wars were directed by American Anglos?
Aussies went to wars because UK Anglos told them so.
Then Aussies went to wars because US Anglos told them so.
Then Aussies have been going to wars because US Jews tell them so.
What exactly is the difference here, please?
For a common Aussie I mean. You know, low middle class/working class fellow?
Well if said above warhawks are Jewish, it’s just stating facts. Iraq was a phony war, started by weapons of mass destruction. What a freaking joke. Saddam dumped the dollar as currency in favor of EU currency. Boom he had to go. Hello ISIS a Bush creation. Afghanistan 9-11 ok. Libya Gadafy was looking to make the dineh the currency of United Africa. Boom he had to go. Iran is next, if not N Korea. There was this video where an American General Wesley Clark names all the countries we’re gonna invade right after 9-11. There were like 7, Yemen, Syria and maybe Lebanon besides Iran, Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan. The memo came from Bush cronies. I worry about a new false flag bombing, scapegoating Iran or N Korea. That’s all it takes to start a war.
Jewish doctrine, not race or D.N.A., causes Jews to steal. Jewish children are “encouraged”/indoctrinated to take away by force the toys of non-Jewish children. Of course, when they grow up they have the Torah and Talmud in addition to their parents and Rabbis, to justify taking away by force the wealth, the land, and even the lives of non-Jews (according to some Jewish interpretations of the Commandment to not steal, it refers to wrongfully taking the life of a Jew). Jewish children must learn that taking away by force the toys of non-Jews is a NO-NO. Right now because of their doctrine Jews are too stupid to understand that when they take away by force that which is precious to non-Jews, some non-Jews will retaliate. For more than 3,500 years Jews have been unable to figure out human nature. Because they justify taking away by force even the lives of non-Jews, they know only one thing which is drummed into their dumbed down heads starting in the Book of Genesis: Fear equals love. Over and over again Jews’ heads are f_cked with by examples of having to love G_d because Jews and non-Jews have to fear G_d. For more than 3,500 years Jews have applied their psychopathology to non-Jews and for more than 3,500 years they have been expelled from non-Jews’ land and society, segregated into ghettos, and had anti-Semitic laws passed against them. Maybe, Non-Jews are just too stupid to learn to love Jews out of fear of Jews. That’s not impossible; after all, all of are Human. Some very evil non-Jews recently murdered and tortured nearly 6,000,000 Jews during the Holocaust or the U.S. military (some very evil non-Jews) covered up their murder of 6,000,000 of non-Jews in Germany after the Allied victory in World War Two by inventing the Holocaust. Nevertheles, Jews, except Reform Jews and Neturai Kartai, and a few others, continue to be totally clueless about human nature. Keeping It Simple Stupid (K.I.S.S.): “Stop stealing from non-Jews” – Starting wars to cover up Jews’ thefts does not work.
1. Authentic Rabbis Always Opposed Zionism and the State of Israel http://www.nkusa.org/
2. Jewish Life is Your Life https://reformjudaism.org/
3. The Elephant http://www.rense.com/theelephant.html
4. I Rep the West https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gyt9yqDMdA&list=RD4gyt9yqDMdA#t=9
Philip Giraldi disseminates some truth, calls a spade-a-spade, and he’s issued a pink slip.
This speaks volumes.
Truth has always drawn fire. Recently it’s been under heavy fire, sustaining severe wounds.
But fortunately according to Buddha, “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.”
So we can expect truth to eventually make a full recovery.
Of course, this recovery can be facilitated by individuals willing to support the truth.
Zionist Jewish influence on the USSA Yankistani media (just some examples):
CNN – http://www.rense.com/general96/CNNmemwar.html
NBC – https://ibb.co/jxoD1a
PR War – https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=Sf0dutJCZMk
Fake News Exposed – http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-28/fake-news-exposed-louise-mensch-duped-hoaxer
Who is Louise Mensch? – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Mensch
Peter Mensch (Jewish husband) – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Mensch
Conan O’Brian – Male Shiksa and Good Goy – http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/almost-no-one-knows-this-but-the-president-of-conaco-conan-o
USSA Yankistanis ARE the New Palestinians
https://theintercept.com/2017/09/15/police-israel-cops-training-adl-human-rights-abuses-dc-washington/
Why does the NYPD have a branch in Israel?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/nypd-opens-local-branch-in-kfar-saba/
Israel gone by 2022 – Sorry Zionist Jew trolls, but under the bus you will go. The USSA Yankistani peasants are waking up. You lose, deal with it.
http://www.israelhayom.com/2012/09/27/kissinger-said-israel-wont-exist-in-10-years/
"White" implies a lack of detectable sub-saharan African and Arab genes if we are speaking about any tribe from Europe, the ME, or Africa. Racial Jews have both.
The statement that "Jews are White" is not only false insofar as they are concerned, but is also an implication that other Whites can have African genes but remain as White as Whites without them.
Jews are obsessed with outrunning their race-mixing shame, or in other words with outrunning the African gene, which is a large motivator behind their equality politics. They are essentially a race mixed tribe who couldn't deal with:
1. what they did in a race mixing context
2. what they did as justification for further race mixing or extinction
3. the spiritual (as per God's biblical edicts) implications of their race mixing
4. and the practical (HBD) ramifications of their race mixing.
So, in essence, we have a tribe who has long resigned themselves to creating a world wherein there is no better tribe than their race mixed tribe, where their race mixed tribe is somehow looked upon as god's tribe, and in which they survive as an inbred race mixed tribe.
They can never outrun their gene, and will always be sore about that fact. Everytime that you see a "Jew Fro", be reminded of their gene, what they claim about themselves, and their motivations.
That god's tribe is a race-mixed tribe is a ridiculous notion. God, as a concept, is both nature and a racial King (both concepts can be readily proven in historical religious studies - the "unknowable" god that Jews currently present to outsiders is a parallel to the mesopotamian AN, and other non-anthropomorphic sky god's that always come into existence when a tribe wants to rule multiple other tribes and therefore needs to depart from the racial King concept).
Most race mixed tribe's would come to the conclusion that either continued race mixing or fading into the good night would be reasonable outcomes for them. However, with this tribe we have a refusal to concede to their past sin and thus a demand for all other pure tribes to be destroyed so that they may thrive and rule.
Ashkenazi Jews are mostly of European descent. They may have a drop of Arab or African blood, but so do Southern Europeans, and Northern/Eastern Europeans have some Asian blood.
Also curly hair is not evidence of being black. Europeans can have “fros” too — like Steven Moffat, a Scottish guy.
Uh…Ashkenazi Jews are definitely Caucasians and they have the highest IQs in the world. WTF are you talking about?
Mr. Giraldi American Jews are quite divided over Israeli policy, number one, and its George bush’s policy, not theirs, to which you refer. And as others have noted the architects of the wars in the middle east have names like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. Are they supported by Jewish neocons? Yes, but its still their war. You’re gross.
BTW, you didn’t really need to tell us that you are from “Jew York.” :)Oh, and non-Jews are of diverse opinion as well, but apparently not enough to get anything done.
Here’s the response Philip Weiss just posted on MW to the article written by Dennis Ross in the NYT, ‘NYT’ leaves out Dennis Ross’s charge to US Jews: ‘We need to be advocates for Israel’
Just as blind pigs can occasionally find an acorn, blind weasels sometimes find a tasty crustacean.
Yes, but its still their war.
You are the flip side of Giraldi’s argument. It is not that it’s the Jewish neo-cons’ war or the Gentile neo-cons’ war, it’s America’s war. You make no improvement over Giraldi’s argument by trying to shift the blame.
BTW, you didn’t really need to tell us that you are from “Jew York.”
Oh, and non-Jews are of diverse opinion as well, but apparently not enough to get anything done.
The sea is abounding with crustaceans, but people with PEA brains refuse to admit it.
Definitely not, and therein lies the problem.
Blind weasels consume everything that they find; all sorts of garbage. They have no discriminatory powers of perception and understanding; to them, everything is a tasty morsel.
The sea is abounding with crustaceans
Definitely not, and therein lies the problem.
Blind weasels consume everything that they find; all sorts of garbage. They have no discriminatory powers of perception and understanding; to them, everything is a tasty morsel.
… Valerie Plame Wilson made news with her Twitter account last week when, on the first day of Rosh Hashana, she shared an article …
What does this mean? Are there prohibitions against communication on Rosh Hashana? Is this some sort of dog whistle to Jews that Plame is suspect in her Jewishness?
The article, which appeared on a fringe website … repeated the well-worn narrative that Jewish neoconservatives promoted the invasion of Iraq — and are beating the drum for a conflict with Iran.
How can it be well-worn if it only appears on fringe sites?
I have little interest in piling on Ms. Wilson.
Then why do it?
However, if you knew about the Middle East because you came from a missionary family or from the oil industry, you were an expert.
Maybe the difference is because missionaries don’t have a sovereign state in the ME.
Maybe because the oil industry does not have sovereign statesWhen James Baker became secretary of state in 1989, he continued to help remove suspicions about Jews from the national security establishment.
And how did he do that? White papers? Free and open discussions in all the national media of importance?
So I went on: If he was Irish and had to work on problems related to Ireland or if he was Italian and had to work on Italy, would you ask that question?
Do you want us to understand that Irish-Americans vis-à-vis Ireland are equivalent to Jewish Americans vis-à-vis Israel? Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?
These attitudes foster an “us versus them” mentality.
So here is my contribution to this us vs. them:
Indeed, to live a Jewish life one must be committed to the Jewish community, [not like traitors like Plame] but also to others. Jews have an obligation to promote justice, mercy, compassion, tolerance and peace.
Because as we all know, non-Jews can’t be committed to their community and to others, much less do they have any humanitarian obligations arising from the milieu of their community.
In the United States, diversity of peoples and opinions is our strength as a democracy.
In fact, this is actually a weakness. It would be much better to discuss the problem without engaging in mis-direction.
Listening to one another, as opposed to labeling one another, can restore civil debate.
So, you and others who are like-minded are going to be after TAC like chickens after a Junebug?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf8FlJy62Y8
Wow, what sad trash.
How come when a person who happens to be Jewish advocates for something, it’s always his/her “Jewishness” motivating the decision? The sinister, money-hungry Jew!
Yet, nobody ever generalizes the same way when a non-Jew is “for” something others have a problem with.
In fact, despite a few Jews named in the above-article about the push to the Iraq war, far more influential people, such as Cheney, Rice, and, of course, Bush himself “the decider” were for it as well. Yet, it was a Jewish conspiracy! Why not a Protestant conspiracy?
Why wrap ALL Jews into one monolithic group? That’s, by definition, stereotyping. That, my friend, is anti-semitism.
In fact, Jews overwhelmingly support Dems, and, despite what this ignorant clown in the forest says, are decidedly less militaristic than members of the GOP – you know, the party of white protestants.
Cheers.
Yes, I think that there are polls that show that Evangelical Christians expressed support for the Iraq War at a higher % than Jewish Americans.
Not really the point here, though.
If we accept the premise that neo-con warmongers are rabid for wars (is this redundant?), the question is: do Jewish neo-cons support wars in the ME more frequently than they do in other parts of the world. IOW, are Jewish neo-cons more likely to be warmongers in the ME because they are Jews? If Jewish neo-cons support war with the same consistency as to time and place as non-Jewish neo-cons then it's okay.
Wait, what if Jewish neo-cons only support war everywhere and all the time just to cover up their support for wars in the ME? Damn, this is harder than I thought.
That my friend is terror - that is suppressing free speech - that is screaming the “six million lie” – that is working the Stockholm Syndrome.
Israeli is evil – congress is occupied – the media is Jew owned – our financial system is Jew controlled – all to the detriment of America.
Think Peace --- Art
are decidedly less militaristic than members of the GOP – you know, the party of white protestants.
Yes, I think that there are polls that show that Evangelical Christians expressed support for the Iraq War at a higher % than Jewish Americans.
Not really the point here, though.
If we accept the premise that neo-con warmongers are rabid for wars (is this redundant?), the question is: do Jewish neo-cons support wars in the ME more frequently than they do in other parts of the world. IOW, are Jewish neo-cons more likely to be warmongers in the ME because they are Jews? If Jewish neo-cons support war with the same consistency as to time and place as non-Jewish neo-cons then it’s okay.
Wait, what if Jewish neo-cons only support war everywhere and all the time just to cover up their support for wars in the ME? Damn, this is harder than I thought.
From Corvanus (AKA Corvinus):
Certainly SOME Unzers are involved in a Jews fixation.
But most aren’t, and they bear mentioning.
Regardless, the Zionist zealotry in the USA is duly noted. Boo! Down with antisemites.
(Sometimes it’s best to just reciprocate, and deliver a dish of shit under someone’s nose, so they know what their own cooking smells like)
Of course, many the Jews have huge influence in the US stablishment, but this not discharge the many Americans, military, academic or civilians who join them in destabilizing the Middle East and the whole world for their profit.
The people who get to high places in America are vetted along the way by the Jew establishment.
If you are in any way questionable about Jews – you are culled out before you reach the top.
Today there are no US generals who question working for Israel – PERIOD.
Play the Jew game or give up your future among the elite.
Think Peace — Art
I have enjoyed and appreciated the keen insights and deep patriotism made evident in the years of service Philip Giraldi has given both the country and The American Conservative. He said in this article that there was always a price to be paid in criticizing the current leadership in Israel and their fawning neocon sycophants in the U.S. When it comes to the truth about the overweening and overbearing power the Likud Party wields in our country whose values and commitments are sometimes at odds, it gives new meaning to Pogo’s observation, “We have met the enemy and the enemy is us.” If the neocons are so hell bent in goading us into more disastrous wars, let them pick up arms and take their children with them into battle. We are weary of their machinations and Mr. Giraldi is a true American patriot to point it out in the face of the constant threat of retribution from the United Likud Zionist persecutors of American loyalists.
Jews are really instrumental to the War Party. Jews run Big Media, and they could turn antiwar any time they like. You’d think they would, given their “leftist” loyalties, but they’re pro-war instead. Similarly, the academy is heavily Jewish, and they could do a lot to turn the country antiwar, but they don’t. You’d think they would, given their “leftist” loyalties…
Yes, the War Party is an unholy alliance between the military industrial complex, and Zionists. But it’s Zionists who provide the Big Media air supremacy that makes the War Party possible. Obviously the military industrial complex favors war. It’s the only way to keep demand high, and stock moving off shelves. But everyone knows this. Everyone is free to say this. But mention the Zionist half of this unholy alliance, and you’re immediately in trouble.
Sounds like a where there’s smoke, there’s fire sort of situation to me. I like goring sacred cows and breaking taboos. There are no sacred cows to be gored, or taboos to be broken, discussing the military industrial complex. It’s a perfect fit for timid souls who don’t like goring sacred cows or breaking taboos. Zionists are where the action’s at for people like me.
Why wrap ALL Jews into one monolithic group? That’s, by definition, stereotyping. That, my friend, is anti-semitism.
That my friend is terror – that is suppressing free speech – that is screaming the “six million lie” – that is working the Stockholm Syndrome.
Israeli is evil – congress is occupied – the media is Jew owned – our financial system is Jew controlled – all to the detriment of America.
Think Peace — Art
I think Jews’ fascination with Communism is owed to its nature as the world’s foremost “antiracist” revolutionary ideology. It’s tailor-made for Jews to use to decapitate a native elite and take its place.
No, he was right on that score. It was Jews’ zealotry (and Zealotry, lol) that got them run out of the Levant. Jews’ ego tends to outdistance their capabilities. The Romans eventually tired of the Jews’ disrespect and crushed them. Not that I begrudge Jews their resistance to foreign rule, mind you. But reality is what it is, and Jews tend to favor their picture of reality way too much.
Wrong, and wrong. With a few exceptions like black and Chinese Jews noted, Jews (Ashkenazim, Sephardim, etc.) are overwhelmingly Caucasian, or Caucasoid, if you like. As are Arabs, North Africans, etc.
And the idea that Jews, or Ashkenazim, or Sephardim, etc., are marrying blacks at a high rate is absurd. And more to the point, you have absolutely no evidence to support the claim. There is more anecdotal evidence for Jews marrying yellows, so it’s a bit less absurd, but again, you have no evidence.
I know because I’ve looked for data on Jewish interracial marriage. There isn’t any. Given 1 Jews’ strong tendency to pay close attention to this kind of data (it abounds for intermarriage (Jews marrying white people)) and 2 the gobsmacking amount of advocacy Jews give to interracial marriage (for the goyim, I suppose) and miscegenation, it’s not exactly hard to suss out that the stats aren’t available because Jews find them embarrassing, and know people like me would wave them like a bloody shirt from now until Doomsday.
You argue that all Jews must recuse themselves from foreign policy positions that relate to Israel. Your logic fails. First, Jews are not a monolith of people who all hold the same views on anything, including Israel and foreign policy. Second, you suggest any judge would do the same. Are you saying no male judge can hear a case in which one party is a woman (or even represented by a woman) because of a conflict of interest? Do you take the same view as Donald Trump, that a Hispanic judge obviously can’t be unbiased in a case in which Trump is a party? This specious logic throws into doubt the rest of your article.
Indeed, there are many White goyim running around furthering Jewish interests, their heads full of Jewish ideas.
Evaluations of how well assimilated any given Jewish population is or was are usually sourced from Jews, or their water carriers. Dissent is usually ruled out as “antisemitism.” Jews were revolutionaries in Russia (and look how well that turned out for the Ukrainians), and they were revolutionaries in Weimar Germany. I would be utterly unsurprised to discover that Jews were subversives in Germany, too, as they have been in so many places when afforded the opportunity.
Ergo, the Spanish Inquisition, that pagan orgy of persecution.
There’s no need for a Jewish conspiracy, when you have Jewish culture, which basically amounts to a Jewish conspiracy so deeply engrained, it isn’t even conscious. Not that it’s all down to culture; Jewish ethnocentrism is the soil in which that culture grows.
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Some guy shouted above that it’s the Zionists, not the Jews. Yes, there are non-Zionist Jews, and there are Zionist non-Jews. But Zionism is absolutely a Jewish ideology, and it is absolutely one of the 2 or 3 reigning ideologies of the Jews. Jewry is absolutely Zionist. Everything else, especially anti-Zionist ideologies, are either distant seconds, or fringe ideologies. As for non-Jewish Zionists, they only exist because of the profit in serving Zionist Jews. No more Zionist Jews, no more Zionist non-Jews; the reverse isn’t remotely true.
I consider it a very nuanced question, that takes paragraphs to answer. TL;DR/skip to the end version is that no, they aren’t European, but no, this doesn’t really add up to much for me.
One thing I find important to say, though, is that if you can say you aren’t a thing when it’s bad to be that thing, then you aren’t really that thing; not in a practical sense. Blacks may be able to insist that Jews are white, but whites aren’t. Real whites don’t get an escape hatch from leftist “anti-racist” whites, but Jews, AFAICT, do.
But like I said, it’s a nuanced question, starting with the fact that “white” has quite a few definitions.
This is all quite apart from the self-determination question (people get a right to define themselves), and the White Nationalism issue. In that context, the answer still depends on which WN you’re asking, but the answer currently is, overwhelmingly, “no.” Which I think is fair: Jews have PUH-LEEENTY of self-advocacy. They don’t deserve a share of WNs’ pitiful table scraps.
You may be right. Only one way to find out; remove Jews from power and see if we get good results. Why not remove White Christians, you ask? Because I like them a lot better than I like Jews, that’s why. Israel awaits Jews who object. You lot have an escape hatch; we don’t.
Maybe because the oil industry does not have sovereign statesWhen James Baker became secretary of state in 1989, he continued to help remove suspicions about Jews from the national security establishment. And how did he do that? White papers? Free and open discussions in all the national media of importance? So I went on: If he was Irish and had to work on problems related to Ireland or if he was Italian and had to work on Italy, would you ask that question? Do you want us to understand that Irish-Americans vis-à-vis Ireland are equivalent to Jewish Americans vis-à-vis Israel? Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?These attitudes foster an “us versus them” mentality. So here is my contribution to this us vs. them:Indeed, to live a Jewish life one must be committed to the Jewish community, [not like traitors like Plame] but also to others. Jews have an obligation to promote justice, mercy, compassion, tolerance and peace.Because as we all know, non-Jews can’t be committed to their community and to others, much less do they have any humanitarian obligations arising from the milieu of their community.In the United States, diversity of peoples and opinions is our strength as a democracy.In fact, this is actually a weakness. It would be much better to discuss the problem without engaging in mis-direction.Listening to one another, as opposed to labeling one another, can restore civil debate.So, you and others who are like-minded are going to be after TAC like chickens after a Junebug?The main reason behind linking Ross’ article as a response to Talha’s post was to further examine what seems to me, a particularly vile idea, reminiscent of wearing the Star of David armband required of Jews back in the glory days of Germany, and thus a practice to be rationally rejected by all Americans.
I do not agree with Ross’ many views on a range of subjects, most importantly his [perhaps not overt, but unthinking] support of militant black hats in Israel. On Tikkun Olam, which requires every Jew to help heal the world, I am fully invested. To be clear, and this I mentioned to Jacques earlier, I believe any approach to the ME problem must be based on none else but uncompromised reality. It is for that reason I am deeply against BDS [which now gains support from #BLM]; for it will, on the ground, harm those it proposes to help, not to mention the corrupted roster of its actors, here, as on the Pal side.
On Rosh Hashana, I am not aware of any prohibition on tweeting. And Plame is hardly an observant Jew if a Jew at all. I reckon she is one when she finds it effective. I suppose Ross was merely observing that her tweet could’ve been better timed, though I find myself shrugging my shoulders.
[How can it be well-worn if it only appears on fringe sites? ]
The subject of Neocon Jews fomenting ME wars has been discussed ad nauseum, including in books, like the one by Herrshiemer & Waltz, prior to by this piece on UR.
Of course, he is piling on Plame. Frankly, I’d have given it a wide berth, especially in a major newspaper, but I guess Dennis wanted to say something, and now, Brett follows.
[And how did he do that? White papers? Free and open discussions in all the national media of importance?]
My impression was that Baker did not cast a particularly avuncular gaze upon Israel or toward Jews in general. It might’ve come as a directive of the POTUS.
[Do you want us to understand that Irish-Americans vis-à-vis Ireland are equivalent to Jewish Americans vis-à-vis Israel? Do you want us to understand that Israel is “just like Ireland”?]
No, I don’t. Ross does apparently. I’ll say what I’ve said before: the Jewish nation is only sixty of age, and therefore retains amongst Jews still that connection to the “mother country” as would’ve been the case amongst the Irish, or Italians, etc, 50-60 years after emigrating. Nevertheless, it is true that all ethnicities retain some connection with the old country for hundreds of years.
[Maybe the difference is because missionaries don’t have a sovereign state in the ME. ]
Everyone goes with a purpose. Missionaries to proselytise, Oilmen for oil and Jews like Ross to shape US policy in the direction they thought right.
[Because as we all know, non-Jews can’t be committed to their community and to others, much less do they have any humanitarian obligations arising from the milieu of their community.]
LOL. I’m quite sure he doesn’t mean that. I think he presumes not to lecture anyone but his co-religionists.
[In fact, this is actually a weakness. It would be much better to discuss the problem without engaging in mis-direction.]
It is a bit of a misdirection.
Parenthetically, diversity is an issue I struggle with as well. Still, here we are, and we do have a diverse nation. It’s a diversity of races, religions and political views. I believe it vital that Diversity not get in the way of essential American culture. I am speaking of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and mom’s apple pie. Of freedom from crony capitalism etc. It would be nice to retain America’s original religious heritage, of which I have written in the past, but we shall see.
[So, you and others who are like-minded are going to be after TAC like chickens after a Junebug?]
Not quite sure I understand the metaphor.
Fully in agreement here, hence my railing against captions and tags early on in the thread.
not to mention the corrupted roster of its actors
Yes. Even if I was inclined to support BDS the inkiness of the bed-fellows would be a definite stumbling block for me. I do accept boycotts as legitimate political action.
I reckon she is one when she finds it effective.
I reckon this is the raisin date of identity.
could’ve been better timed, though
If tweeting on Rosh Hashana is not taboo there is nothing to time. The only purpose that I can see is that it is some sort of signal that I don’t understand, but I do understand that it is a signal.The subject of Neocon Jews fomenting ME wars has been discussed ad nauseum, including in books, like the one by Herrshiemer & Waltz, prior to by this piece on UR.
This is not even close to being wrong. It has not been frequently discussed, hardly discussed at all, in the MSM. If we could do some sort of search of the times that it is mentioned in polite society, the times that it is mentioned as some sort of bad-think would likely outnumber the serious discussion times.
Of course, he is piling on Plame. Frankly, I’d have given it a wide berth, especially in a major newspaper, but I guess Dennis wanted to say something, and now, Brett follows.
So, if I was right and this is what Giraldi wanted, it worked to a degree.
It might’ve come as a directive of the POTUS.
This is not open discussion of a change in policy.therefore retains amongst Jews still that connection to the “mother country” as would’ve been the case amongst the Irish, or Italians, etc, 50-60 years after emigrating. Nevertheless, it is true that all ethnicities retain some connection with the old country for hundreds of years.
This is a tough one. I am barely knowledgeable on the subject, but it seems to me that the intertwining of the Jewish identity with the State of Israel is not the same as Italians vis-à-vis Italy and I’m not sure that it ever will be.
I think he presumes not to lecture anyone but his co-religionists.
Then shouldn’t this article be in the synagogue weekly?Not quite sure I understand the metaphor.
If diversity of thought and expression is the supreme virtue here, shouldn’t he be demanding that TAC restore Giraldi to his position?
Any comparison between the Irish, Italians, and Greeks of seventy years ago and current day Jew control of our political system is ludicrous – it is insulting – it is mendacity cubed.
What 9/11 event did the Irish, Italians, and Greeks bring to our shores.
What wars did America engage in for the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?
What are the AIPAC’S associated with the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?
I see that hasbara has descended on this tread – with thousands of words – all with a twist - a spin – a half-truth – a big lie – and all with intended malicious mendacity aimed at quelling free speech.
I know this is wasted on you Jews but ----
Think Peace --- Art
And the idea that Jews, or Ashkenazim, or Sephardim, etc., are marrying blacks at a high rate is absurd. And more to the point, you have absolutely no evidence to support the claim. There is more anecdotal evidence for Jews marrying yellows, so it's a bit less absurd, but again, you have no evidence.
I know because I've looked for data on Jewish interracial marriage. There isn't any. Given 1 Jews' strong tendency to pay close attention to this kind of data (it abounds for intermarriage (Jews marrying white people)) and 2 the gobsmacking amount of advocacy Jews give to interracial marriage (for the goyim, I suppose) and miscegenation, it's not exactly hard to suss out that the stats aren't available because Jews find them embarrassing, and know people like me would wave them like a bloody shirt from now until Doomsday.
But the rate of intermarriage with Asians is high. It is promoted and have good press and coverage. One may wonder whether it is not a part a long term strategy to infiltrate Chinese elites.
I say keep them around. Israel is a shining beacon of ethnonationalism, and more and more observant goyim catch on every day.
What a pinheaded way of looking at the world. As if a tiny fringe obviate the leviathan center.
And I piss on internationalism from a great height. It’s synonymous with death and genocide. It IS imperialism.
Nonsense. They’re practically absent from anything that resembles a White version of Zionism, for example. “How much” Jews are overrepresented is an important question; curiously, their overrepresentation in opinion-shaping and finance far outstretches their overrepresentation in most other areas. Almost as if areas that serve Jewish interests are of primary importance to the tribe…
“Hi, I’m a philosemite/anti-white, and here’s my straw man with a side of bullshit.”
Actually, Jewish participation in WWII exceeded the Jewish share of the population. By the time the draft was ended, of course, it dwindled away to almost nothing. It currently stands at something like 1/9th their share of the population, IIRC.
Yeah, mostly, as in, about 55%. That ain’t European. That’s half-European. The other half is Levantine.
I think gods began in the storm. Thunder is frightening, and begs explanation. As do the darkness and the light, etc., etc., etc. It’s man’s way of anthropomorphizing nature, at a time when he could explain very little. Anthropomorphization is a powerful human tendency; you still see people do it with their pets, for example, in this “rational” age. Projection in general (anthropomorphization seems to be a form of projection) is a powerful human tendency.
I don’t disagree with the idea that hero-worship is a big part of superstition, too, but I think that came after, or is a parallel thing.
It’s a tendentious reading, of philosemitic origin. Reasonable reading is that it refers to American Jews in the aggregate.
That’s tendentious, too. E.g., “Monolith” is the sort of bullshit that only philosemitic squid-inkers bring to the table.
The bigotry is yours, manifested in your tendentiousness.
Note what the left subjects to the preceding level of “rigor” and “critique,” and what they don’t. It shows what they care about. Jews? Yes. Whites? No. Etc.
Healthy people blame drug dealers more than junkies, pimps more than whores or johns. But Jews and their water carriers aren’t healthy people.
Of course not. It’s never the Jews. Anything else would be antisemitism.
This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry.
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Protip: when someone says, “it’s not the Jews,” ask them, “what is?” 99% of the time, they will offer no answer. They can’t.
Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds
2016 Gallup poll shows 80% of Israeli Jews say Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel, and 50% think Arabs should be expelled.
Just so we have a baseline for what Israeli Jewry is, and isn’t. And a good handle on what diaspora Jews willingly and enthusiastically ally themselves to, when they aren’t obsessively policing anything similar from the minds of the White goyim.
The basic Israeli strategy is to tear down every regime around them, with priority given to regimes that show independence or hostility. I don’t see how this is stupid, so much as aggressive.
Only way to find out is to remove Jews from power and observe the results. Empirical knowledge FTW.
Very true.
Yes, and no. Nobody’s going to try to shoah the Jews of Israel. Everybody except Israel’s neighbors is just fiiiiine with there being a Jewish state for Jews to go live in, trust me. No, the next threat against the Jews, as pitiful as it may be at the moment, is to the diaspora. In America’s case, there is no superpower to come and save them. A distant, even phantasmal threat, perhaps, but the lack of any potential savior is worth mentioning.
Jew genes amount to more than just good lawyering.
Well said.
Nick, I love ya, and I even have you on my Righteous Jews list (if only in pencil), but you’re a complete nut when it comes to the Jewish Question. I’d sooner listen to Abe Foxman.
Two partners created a criminal enterprise. Senior partner used some elements of junior partner background to enforce his legitimacy around other thugs around. In time the junior partner took over. The game suited him better; the very game the senior partner created.
Now the senior partner is not happy. He want things as before....when HE was great, not this...junior....impostor who lost a feel for his place.
So...he (the senior partner) says: "Things aren't good. The only way to get them better is to remove this ...impostor...".
Then, a little thug from periphery asks: "Excuse me Boss...but...wouldn't then we be back to the same state of affairs when YOU were in charge? I mean...what's there for us...really? What's the difference?".
Makes sense?
reminiscent of wearing the Star of David armband required of Jews back in the glory days of Germany, and thus a practice to be rationally rejected by all Americans
Fully in agreement here, hence my railing against captions and tags early on in the thread.
not to mention the corrupted roster of its actors
Yes. Even if I was inclined to support BDS the inkiness of the bed-fellows would be a definite stumbling block for me. I do accept boycotts as legitimate political action.
I reckon she is one when she finds it effective.
I reckon this is the raisin date of identity.
could’ve been better timed, though
If tweeting on Rosh Hashana is not taboo there is nothing to time. The only purpose that I can see is that it is some sort of signal that I don’t understand, but I do understand that it is a signal.
The subject of Neocon Jews fomenting ME wars has been discussed ad nauseum, including in books, like the one by Herrshiemer & Waltz, prior to by this piece on UR.
This is not even close to being wrong. It has not been frequently discussed, hardly discussed at all, in the MSM. If we could do some sort of search of the times that it is mentioned in polite society, the times that it is mentioned as some sort of bad-think would likely outnumber the serious discussion times.
Of course, he is piling on Plame. Frankly, I’d have given it a wide berth, especially in a major newspaper, but I guess Dennis wanted to say something, and now, Brett follows.
So, if I was right and this is what Giraldi wanted, it worked to a degree.
It might’ve come as a directive of the POTUS.
This is not open discussion of a change in policy.
therefore retains amongst Jews still that connection to the “mother country” as would’ve been the case amongst the Irish, or Italians, etc, 50-60 years after emigrating. Nevertheless, it is true that all ethnicities retain some connection with the old country for hundreds of years.
This is a tough one. I am barely knowledgeable on the subject, but it seems to me that the intertwining of the Jewish identity with the State of Israel is not the same as Italians vis-à-vis Italy and I’m not sure that it ever will be.
I think he presumes not to lecture anyone but his co-religionists.
Then shouldn’t this article be in the synagogue weekly?
Not quite sure I understand the metaphor.
If diversity of thought and expression is the supreme virtue here, shouldn’t he be demanding that TAC restore Giraldi to his position?
Protestantism’s alluded-to-but-unnamed heretical standpoint on the Jews aside:
1 I daresay there are a lot more countersemites of Protestant than Catholic origin.
2 The centralization inherent to the Catholic Church is a bad idea for a number of reasons, foremost of which is rigidity. Protestantism can sprout a new, immunized sect in 5 seconds flat, and Protestants have little resistance to joining new sects. Meanwhile, Catholics have made an open leftist heretic their “pope.”
3 As mentioned in 2, joining a new sect isn’t a huge deal for a Protestant. For a Catholic to leave their Total Institution is like apostasy. It’s a huge deal. Bad mojo, IMO.
4 Protestantism is organized more like an insurgency. It’s easy to form new cells. Catholicism is a very different animal, too hidebound, rigid, etc. Reform is much easier for Protestants.
5 Jews are much warmer toward Catholics than they are toward Protestants.
Yeah but Jews are god’s chosen and get a different set of rules.
Jim Christian: yes, 1 SC seat represents about 11% of that body. Jews are no more than 5%, so at most they should have 1 appointment. And that Justice should be replaced with a non-Jew, who will then be followed by a Jew. That would be overrepresentation, probably, but close enough for gov’t work.
Douchebag answer. Don’t change the subject from overrepresentation to something else, and pretend we’re too stupid to notice. P.S., we want to sort the mackerel-snappers out, too.
They had an awful lot to do with the Bolsheviks. No Bolsheviks, no NSDAP takeover of Germany, no WWII.
You’re a Jew, aren’t you? You call yourself “Aussie,” but you’re a Jew, right? Forgive me if we’ve had this convo, have a very male brain and it doesn’t keep personal details of commenters very well.
Show me the proof. Where are the statistics?
[If diversity of thought and expression is the supreme virtue here, shouldn’t he be demanding that TAC restore Giraldi to his position?]
He should. Some of this writing could appear in places like TAC and debated there. I thought and as you mentioned, PGs articles in TAC were all fairly sanitised.
Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:
1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish…how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?
2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.
3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish, or the Jews who are completely against that something. For example, subject lists all the Jewish neo-cons (and don’t forget, half the folks on his Jew list are not actual Jews), neglects to tell us about all the non-Jewish neo cons, and also neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.
4) The subject makes the claim that Jews control X, or favor Y. As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything…..forgetting for a minute that Jews in actuality occupy the spectrum of political opinions like any other group.
5) The subject always claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is….controlled by….guess who….not the Armenians…….not the Greeks….getting warmer…The JEWS!
This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry. This is not bigotry.
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Protip: when someone says, "it's not the Jews," ask them, "what is?" 99% of the time, they will offer no answer. They can't.Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds
2016 Gallup poll shows 80% of Israeli Jews say Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel, and 50% think Arabs should be expelled.
Just so we have a baseline for what Israeli Jewry is, and isn't. And a good handle on what diaspora Jews willingly and enthusiastically ally themselves to, when they aren't obsessively policing anything similar from the minds of the White goyim.The basic Israeli strategy is to tear down every regime around them, with priority given to regimes that show independence or hostility. I don't see how this is stupid, so much as aggressive.Only way to find out is to remove Jews from power and observe the results. Empirical knowledge FTW.Very true.Yes, and no. Nobody's going to try to shoah the Jews of Israel. Everybody except Israel's neighbors is just fiiiiine with there being a Jewish state for Jews to go live in, trust me. No, the next threat against the Jews, as pitiful as it may be at the moment, is to the diaspora. In America's case, there is no superpower to come and save them. A distant, even phantasmal threat, perhaps, but the lack of any potential savior is worth mentioning.Jew genes amount to more than just good lawyering.Well said.Nick, I love ya, and I even have you on my Righteous Jews list (if only in pencil), but you're a complete nut when it comes to the Jewish Question. I'd sooner listen to Abe Foxman.
Haha…..
You know how it sounds for, say, “outsider”? I’ll show you:
Two partners created a criminal enterprise. Senior partner used some elements of junior partner background to enforce his legitimacy around other thugs around. In time the junior partner took over. The game suited him better; the very game the senior partner created.
Now the senior partner is not happy. He want things as before….when HE was great, not this…junior….impostor who lost a feel for his place.
So…he (the senior partner) says: “Things aren’t good. The only way to get them better is to remove this …impostor…”.
Then, a little thug from periphery asks: “Excuse me Boss…but…wouldn’t then we be back to the same state of affairs when YOU were in charge? I mean…what’s there for us…really? What’s the difference?”.
Makes sense?
1) The subject seems obsessed with all things Jewish...how many articles has the person written about Jews this or that?
2) The subject claims a Jewish cabal controls X, then lists a bunch of actors involved in X, half of whom are not even Jewish. Example: The Jews control the media, just look at all the Jews in the media: Bloomberg, Murdoch (not actually Jewish), Bezos (not actually Jewish), Saban, Turner (not actually Jewish), etc etc.
3) The subject connects dots linking Jews to something, while totally ignoring all the participants who are not Jewish, or the Jews who are completely against that something. For example, subject lists all the Jewish neo-cons (and don't forget, half the folks on his Jew list are not actual Jews), neglects to tell us about all the non-Jewish neo cons, and also neglects to mention that MOST of the Jews in congress opposed the Neo-Cons and voted against the Iraq war resolution.
4) The subject makes the claim that Jews control X, or favor Y. As if all Jews have a secret meeting where they come to a consensus on everything.....forgetting for a minute that Jews in actuality occupy the spectrum of political opinions like any other group.
5) The subject always claims self-righteously, that the MSM is trying to silence them, not because he/she is practicing obvious bigotry, but because the MSM is....controlled by....guess who....not the Armenians.......not the Greeks....getting warmer...The JEWS!
Ethan says:
Thanks for the input, Ethan, some of us here love to grapple with the JQ.
Guide for Spotting Anti-Semitic Political Writer:
Of course this would not apply to Jewish writers who write nothing but defenses of most things Jewish.
Well, you are getting to shakier ground here. Certainly, code words like cabal are a tip-off (blood and treasure is one of my favorites). The key word here is control. Jews are disproportionately represented in the media, greatly over-represented. Not only that, as anti-Semites and other observers note, all hell can break loose if something dear to the hearts of Jews is questioned.
Same disproportionality problem here as in #2.
This is a pretty weak argument here because the outcome of votes are known to the leadership so when there is no doubt on the outcome, members can be allowed to vote for show. (Happens every day.)
No, they do it in public, right in front of God and everybody. cf. NYT>Ross>Plame
Well, you are repeating #2 here, but who gets to decide what is obvious bigotry?
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
I’ve always liked Phil Giraldi’s work at TAC, but saying that Jews should be barred from working in any U.S. government position that relates to Israel and that the media should display a “Jew alert” when ever a Jewish American appears on TV is way over the line. I’m very opposed to the Israel lobby, but how is having special rules against Jews anything other than anti-Semitism?
Care to provide just one example of the garbage I supposedly spew?
I can't work on your problem right now, I have to battle these hasbara types that have come on board lately. :)
Anyone who talks about “The JQ,” is just a person obsessed with Jews, and it’s disgusting and anti-semitic imo. Why does no one talk about the KQ (Korean Question) or the AQ (Armenian Question)? Where I live in San Francisco, Koreans are half the landlords and run half the municipal government. The US is currently poised to break hell loose in order to protect the tiny little beloved ally for whom we spilled ample American blood and treasure during the Korean War. We have a dedicated army currently sitting in South Korea playing body guard for a tiny country with disproportionately strong influence in US politics, a disproportionately strong economy (built on US tax payer money), disproportionately strong individual wealth (among Korean Americans). The US hasn’t shed 1 life defending the Jewish state, but we shed 30,000+ lives fighting for South Korea and continue to spend literally billions every year, maintaining a military presence on and near the Korean Peninsula….yet no one talks about a Korean Question. Or Korean control of XYZ?
Take the word “Jews,” replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I’m sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how “Koreans,” or “Armenians,” or “Italians” control XYZ. These “JQ-talking” people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON’T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There’s 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It’s ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I’m shocked at how un-aware some of you people are….do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany’s defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It’s insane, it’s factually incorrect, and it’s bigotry against Jews.
I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.
We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.
You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.
The primary reason that no one talks about the AQ or KQ is that Armenians and Koreans have been relatively reticent about airing grievance and providing suggestions for amendment of fundamental social structures. If you behave as a control freak and attention engine, please do not be surprised when the natives address the question.
Neil
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
If you are comparing the Patels running the budget motel businesses, the Vietnamese dominating the nail salon business and the Korean wig shop dominance on the one hand with the influence of Jews in the visual and print media, and the financial, economic, academic, legal and governmental sectors in the US and much of the West, you are absolutely correct; you just happen to be 3 or 4 orders of magnitude off in the importance department. (I have it on good authority that rednecks completely dominate the boiled peanut market.)
I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.
We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.
You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.
Anti-Semitism flares up against billionaire investor Paul Singer, painted in the press as one of a cabal of 'ruthless' Jews
By Bruce Einhorn
July 16, 2015 at 12:15:48 AM EDT
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-16/samsung-and-shylock-korean-takeover-fight-gets-uglie
Fight over one of the world’s largest tech companies turns anti-Semitic
A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
By HAVIV RETTIG GUR
July 9, 2015, 3:57 am
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fight-over-one-of-the-worlds-largest-tech-companies-turns-anti-semitic/
'Korea's Top Expert on Jews' Gets in on Samsung Debate
www.weeklystandard.com/koreas-top-expert-on-jews-gets-in...samsung.../991956
Jul 16, 2015 - Samsung C&T and New York investor Paul Singer have been engaged in a heated battle over the future of the telecommunications company.
Thousands gather to mourn US
Armenianer Jewish student imprisoned in North KoreaOtto Warmbier recalled by family, friends at Ohio funeral as a spirited young man with 'a deep desire to know God in a personal way'
By AP and ERIC CORTELLESSA
June 22, 2017
https://www.timesofisrael.com/family-friends-gather-for-funeral-of-us-jewish-student-imprisoned-in-n-korea/
WYOMING, Ohio — Hundreds of mourners gathered Thursday to celebrate the life of a Jewish American college student who was detained in North Korea for over a year and died shortly after being returned home to Ohio in a coma.
Otto Warmbier’s brother, sister and friends were among the scheduled speakers for the funeral Thursday at a high school in his hometown of Wyoming, near Cincinnati. A rabbi was officiating at the public service, which was closed to the news media.
Rabbi Jake Rubin, executive director of the Brody Jewish Center at the University of Virginia, called Warmbier “one of the most intellectually curious people I’ve ever met” during the service.
US Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican from the Cincinnati area, told the throng of reporters stationed outside that Warmbier was “an amazing young man” from a resilient family and that North Korea must be held accountable for what happened to the 22-year-old University of Virginia student, who died Monday.
“This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman, who previously revealed that he met secretly with North Korean officials in New York last December to press for Warmbier’s release. He said North Korea’s treatment of Otto demonstrated “a basic disregard for human rights, for human dignity.”
Warmbier was accused of trying to steal a propaganda banner while visiting North Korea in 2015 and was later convicted of subversion. His family said they were told that he had been in a coma since shortly after he was sentenced to prison with hard labor in March 2016.
His former soccer coach, Steve Thomas, said Warmbier came from a religious family and was involved in mission trips and a Birthright trip to Israel.
“He had a deep desire to know God in a personal way,” Thomas said. “He wasn’t big on doing things because he was supposed to do it. He did things because he wanted to do them.”
During his incarceration, Warmbier’s family was advised to keep his Jewish background and identity concealed while officials tried to negotiate his release, a negotiator told The Times of Israel.
That was because the North Korean justification for his imprisonment centered on a dubious claim that Warmbier had stolen a propaganda poster in a Pyongyang hotel lobby on orders from the Friendship United Methodist Church in Wyoming, Ohio, to bring it back “as a trophy” in exchange for a used car worth $10,000.
“We didn’t want to share it,” said Mickey Bergman, who worked on negotiations for Warmbier’s release, referring to the fact of Warmbier’s Jewishness. “The family chose, rightfully so, not to share that information while he was in captivity… because they didn’t want to embarrass [North Korea] by explaining that he actually was Jewish” and thus would not have been affiliated with the church.
“That’s why that part of the story was kept quiet,” added Bergman, executive director of The Richardson Center, an organization founded by former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson that works to negotiate the release of prisoners and hostages held by hostile regimes.
Warmbier was visiting the reclusive Asian nation on a New Year’s student tour in January 2016. He was arrested just before departing Pyongyang International Airport. Earlier in his trip, he was briefly detained for taking down a sign on a staff-only floor at the Yanggakdo International Hotel, where he was staying.
Almost two months later, he appeared at a staged news conference, clearly under coercion, where he gave a tearful confession and begged for forgiveness. It was there that North Korean officials told CNN their belief of the church’s role in the incident.
“If that’s what their story is, there’s no point fighting it if your objective is to get him out,” Bergman said. “When you realize he’s Jewish, you realize how ridiculous that claim is.”
After Warmbier’s release last week — in a coma and suffering severe brain damage — reports surfaced that he had gone on a Birthright trip in 2014 and subsequently became active with his campus Hillel at the University of Virginia (UVA).
During his visit to Israel, Warmbier was given a Hebrew name and wrote a blog post about his experience visiting the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City for the first time.
Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.
Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
I didn’t say that you spewed it, although I could probably find an instance of that, I said that you consumed it.
I can’t work on your problem right now, I have to battle these hasbara types that have come on board lately.
Play It Again Sam – Sing “Six Million Lie”,
Any comparison between the Irish, Italians, and Greeks of seventy years ago and current day Jew control of our political system is ludicrous – it is insulting – it is mendacity cubed.
What 9/11 event did the Irish, Italians, and Greeks bring to our shores.
What wars did America engage in for the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?
What are the AIPAC’S associated with the Irish, Italians, and Greeks?
I see that hasbara has descended on this tread – with thousands of words – all with a twist – a spin – a half-truth – a big lie – and all with intended malicious mendacity aimed at quelling free speech.
I know this is wasted on you Jews but —-
Think Peace — Art
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
Ethan,
The primary reason that no one talks about the AQ or KQ is that Armenians and Koreans have been relatively reticent about airing grievance and providing suggestions for amendment of fundamental social structures. If you behave as a control freak and attention engine, please do not be surprised when the natives address the question.
Neil
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
Ethan,
That is an outrageous lie. No other ethnicity comes within one hundred million miles of the Jews when it comes to controlling America.
How can you write crap like that?
There must be some perverse motivation for you to do this.
Think Peace — Art
I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.
We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.
You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.
Samsung and ‘the Jews of Wall Street’: Korean Takeover Fight Gets Uglier
Anti-Semitism flares up against billionaire investor Paul Singer, painted in the press as one of a cabal of ‘ruthless’ Jews
By Bruce Einhorn
July 16, 2015 at 12:15:48 AM EDT
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-16/samsung-and-shylock-korean-takeover-fight-gets-uglie
Fight over one of the world’s largest tech companies turns anti-Semitic
A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
A titanic row between Samsung and a hedge fund run by an American Jew sparks anti-Jewish assault in South Korean media
By HAVIV RETTIG GUR
July 9, 2015, 3:57 am
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fight-over-one-of-the-worlds-largest-tech-companies-turns-anti-semitic/
‘Korea’s Top Expert on Jews’ Gets in on Samsung Debate
http://www.weeklystandard.com/koreas-top-expert-on-jews-gets-in…samsung…/991956
Jul 16, 2015 – Samsung C&T and New York investor Paul Singer have been engaged in a heated battle over the future of the telecommunications company.
Thousands gather to mourn US
Armenianer Jewish student imprisoned in North KoreaOtto Warmbier recalled by family, friends at Ohio funeral as a spirited young man with ‘a deep desire to know God in a personal way’
By AP and ERIC CORTELLESSA
June 22, 2017
https://www.timesofisrael.com/family-friends-gather-for-funeral-of-us-jewish-student-imprisoned-in-n-korea/
WYOMING, Ohio — Hundreds of mourners gathered Thursday to celebrate the life of a Jewish American college student who was detained in North Korea for over a year and died shortly after being returned home to Ohio in a coma.
Otto Warmbier’s brother, sister and friends were among the scheduled speakers for the funeral Thursday at a high school in his hometown of Wyoming, near Cincinnati. A rabbi was officiating at the public service, which was closed to the news media.
Rabbi Jake Rubin, executive director of the Brody Jewish Center at the University of Virginia, called Warmbier “one of the most intellectually curious people I’ve ever met” during the service.
US Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican from the Cincinnati area, told the throng of reporters stationed outside that Warmbier was “an amazing young man” from a resilient family and that North Korea must be held accountable for what happened to the 22-year-old University of Virginia student, who died Monday.
“This college kid never should have been detained in the first place,” said Portman, who previously revealed that he met secretly with North Korean officials in New York last December to press for Warmbier’s release. He said North Korea’s treatment of Otto demonstrated “a basic disregard for human rights, for human dignity.”
Warmbier was accused of trying to steal a propaganda banner while visiting North Korea in 2015 and was later convicted of subversion. His family said they were told that he had been in a coma since shortly after he was sentenced to prison with hard labor in March 2016.
His former soccer coach, Steve Thomas, said Warmbier came from a religious family and was involved in mission trips and a Birthright trip to Israel.
“He had a deep desire to know God in a personal way,” Thomas said. “He wasn’t big on doing things because he was supposed to do it. He did things because he wanted to do them.”
During his incarceration, Warmbier’s family was advised to keep his Jewish background and identity concealed while officials tried to negotiate his release, a negotiator told The Times of Israel.
That was because the North Korean justification for his imprisonment centered on a dubious claim that Warmbier had stolen a propaganda poster in a Pyongyang hotel lobby on orders from the Friendship United Methodist Church in Wyoming, Ohio, to bring it back “as a trophy” in exchange for a used car worth $10,000.
“We didn’t want to share it,” said Mickey Bergman, who worked on negotiations for Warmbier’s release, referring to the fact of Warmbier’s Jewishness. “The family chose, rightfully so, not to share that information while he was in captivity… because they didn’t want to embarrass [North Korea] by explaining that he actually was Jewish” and thus would not have been affiliated with the church.
“That’s why that part of the story was kept quiet,” added Bergman, executive director of The Richardson Center, an organization founded by former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson that works to negotiate the release of prisoners and hostages held by hostile regimes.
Warmbier was visiting the reclusive Asian nation on a New Year’s student tour in January 2016. He was arrested just before departing Pyongyang International Airport. Earlier in his trip, he was briefly detained for taking down a sign on a staff-only floor at the Yanggakdo International Hotel, where he was staying.
Almost two months later, he appeared at a staged news conference, clearly under coercion, where he gave a tearful confession and begged for forgiveness. It was there that North Korean officials told CNN their belief of the church’s role in the incident.
“If that’s what their story is, there’s no point fighting it if your objective is to get him out,” Bergman said. “When you realize he’s Jewish, you realize how ridiculous that claim is.”
After Warmbier’s release last week — in a coma and suffering severe brain damage — reports surfaced that he had gone on a Birthright trip in 2014 and subsequently became active with his campus Hillel at the University of Virginia (UVA).
During his visit to Israel, Warmbier was given a Hebrew name and wrote a blog post about his experience visiting the Western Wall in Jerusalem’s Old City for the first time.
I always assumed so, but actually many would deny it. Ben Shapiro seemed uncertain on the point. Mike Wallace once objected to being characterized as white. Those who are Sephardic may be of the same stock as Arabs. The Ashkenazi may be of mixed blood. Since Jewish writers tend to demonize the white race (e.g. Susan Sontag: ‘The white race is the cancer of history’) perhaps most don’t see themselves as white.
Let us congratulate the American Jews who have used their energy, intellect, passion and obsession over Israel to attain such power over the American people, government, media and our military.
But, let us recall the words of JFK in his inaugural address, ” Those foolish enough to ride the back of the tiger to obtain power, often end up inside the tiger.”
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
You’re right. The US shed the lives of ~4,500 of its own servicemen and, according to some studies, the lives of over a million Iraqis defending the Jewish state.
And that’s just the lives lost eliminating Iraq. I should have also added the lives lost eliminating Libya (~100,00) and almost elininating Syria (~500,000) in an effort to defend the Jewish state.
We can add two more groups – Alliance for Securing Democracy and InvestigateRussia.org – to the already very long list of groups that form the Zionist Lobby:
Take the word "Jews," replace it with just about any ethnicity or nationality or religion, and spend all day connecting dots which may or may not exist, and I'm sure you can create an equally compelling narrative about how "Koreans," or "Armenians," or "Italians" control XYZ. These "JQ-talking" people spend all day trying to connect dots regarding Jews, and they all suffer from observation bias. They over-select Jews in certain categories, ignore all the non-Jews in that category, ignore all the Jews that DON'T fit in that category, and then craft a compelling story about how Jews run their world. The reality is that Jewish opinions on every matter vary across a huge spectrum. There's 13-15 Million Jews on Earth and they have more or less the same control over their affairs as any other group of a similar size. This obsession with Jews is positively medieval. It's ancient anti-semitism in a modern outfit. I'm shocked at how un-aware some of you people are....do you realize that you sound like the fools who accuse Germany's defeat in WWI on a Jewish conspiracy? It's insane, it's factually incorrect, and it's bigotry against Jews.
Hilarious! The idea that US war on Korea had anything to do with protecting Koreans or their interests. ;o
A little more background on the Alliance for Securing Democracy and its primary objective:
My mistake, the survey is from Pew Research, not Gallup.
1. No one here will defend Koreans. That’s because criticism of Koreans isn’t attacked by hyperethnocentric Koreans, or their water-carrying mopes, as “disgusting” or [special, very specific word for anti-Korean sentiment that everyone knows and fears here]. That’s because Koreans don’t have a giant hasbara team working for free in the USA.
2. Why do Jews never talk about non-European racism? Why are they so obsessed with Europeans’ racism, Europeans’ attitudes, Europeans’ immigration policy, Europeans’ xenophobia, Europeans Europeans Europeans Europeans Europeans?
Jews miserably fail to live up to your standards.
AND NO ONE WILL GIVE A FUCK. THERE WILL BE NO ARMY DEPLOYED TO UNPERSON HIM. THERE WILL BE NO TEAM OF KOREAN HASBARISTS UP HIS NOSE.
Really, Jewish guy? Not on the issue of White Americans having for themselves what Jews have for themselves in Israel. The Jewish opinion on that one is pretty much monolithic: “over our dead bodies.”
Jews: “German Nazis murdered 6 million Jews.”
Also Jews: “The idea that Soviet Jews were instrumental to the USSR’s murder of tens of millions of people, a great many of them before Hitler ever became chancellor of Germany, is antisemitism.”
Jews: “Jewish White Supremacy (Zionism) is great, and Jews’ right.”
Also Jews: “White ethnonationalism is bad, Whites have no right.”
We’ve heard it all before, kiddo.
I am not obsessed with the JQ, although the longer it takes me to climb out of this rabbit-hole weakens the certainty of that assertion.
We actually created South Korea, and that was before Vietnam taught us how to extricate ourselves from that type of situation, so there we are.
You need to work on your anti-Semitic detection devices. I think that there is some sort of overload in the circuitry.
Permit me to make a small observation, Iffen. I am confident that any person uninitiated to the customs and themes on offer at UR, especially in PG’s pieces, would arrive at a conclusion the contours of which I needn’t leave to your imagination. This address, additionally, has the potential to delude the unmindful. There are some truths to be gleaned here, yet most of it rendered outre through vicious zeal and outright mendacity; and, as all conspiracies, entirely self-perpetuating in their outlandishness.
Ethan’s reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one’s position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her’s. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.
Iffen, apologies, but I’ll use this space for a general message:
. Hopping mad yet?
General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR – a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch
He thinks I'm an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?
More later.
A couple of things out of it.
First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That's for power players. Your "smart" approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?
Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the.....rage....at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your "smart" approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.
So....you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.
You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls "smarts" of the system, they control "tools" of it. The power of the state. Police...military.....guns....The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren't for the power of the state. Don't delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it's police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.
So...either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem "out of it".
General message to snivelers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of German life and business today. What of it?
Think Peace --- Art
Guide for spotting the Zionist/Jewish Supremacist political writer: all his criticism is on behalf of Jews. None of his standards are ever turned against Jews.
No matter how obsessed any countersemite is with all things Jewish, there is always a Jew somewhere who is far more obsessed with all things Jewish.
Fun fact about Bezos, the Jewish press (JTA? Can’t remember) incorrectly identified him as Jewish, had to issue a correction. Those raging antisemites in the Jewish press! *shakes fist*
As for Murdoch, he’s just a fanatical Zionist, not a Jew. He reminds me a bit of that fake Jew in Snatch, Dough the Head. I’m prompted to wonder what’s the difference, exactly?
Well, if you’re making the argument that Jews are up to no good, it makes sense to focus on Jews. Somebody else being up to no good doesn’t absolve the Jews being up to no good, does it?
But sure, let’s talk about how, say, American Whites are up to no good, just like American Jews are up to no good. There’s really no difference, right? American Jews are big-time “anti-racists” who police American Whites for any hint of ethnonationalism, even as they are politically wedded to the Jewish White Supremacist state, Israel. Similarly, American Whites are big-time “anti-racists” who police American Whites for any hint of ethnonationalism, even as… oh. I guess there isn’t that much similarity there at all! My mistake.
Jewish White Supremacy is baked into the Jewish cultural cake. They don’t need secret meetings; they’re raised as Jewish White Supremacists from birth.
Jews don’t occupy any “spectrum” on denying to White Americans what Jews have for themselves in Israel; they’re all down with the program.
If you don’t think the Jews effectively control Big Media, your head’s up your ass.
P.S., Jewish guy, why don’t Jews like you ever go to bat for other groups they way you just have for Jews? Answer: because Jews are ethnocentric.
Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.
Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality.
He thinks I’m an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?
More later.
I mean let’s just review a few salient facts, just to make sure they don’t get overlooked:
American Jews are “leftist” as Hell: 75% voted against Trump, and 72% voted for Hillary (they’re “anti-racist” as Hell, too, but I don’t have exit poll numbers for that). All other White American demographics voted for Trump, often substantially so. This is a huge disconnect between the two groups.
American Jews are also Zionist. Zionism is the overwhelming reigning ideology of American Jews, right up there with their “leftism” and “anti-racism.” Anti-Zionism is a total fringe among American Jews. There is nothing remotely like an anti-AIPAC among Americans in general, never mind Jews in particular, to counter Jews’ AIPAC.
Again, here are the people who American Jews are allied to, via their Zionism:
Half of Israeli Jews think Arabs should be ethnically cleansed from Israel; 80% think Jews deserve preferential treatment in Israel
Jews can’t defend this obvious Jewish White Supremacy. So they deny (“American Jews aren’t Zionist,” and other such obvious horseshit), obfuscate, deflect.
Keep in mind I am criticizing from the right; I want Whites and Euros to start acting JUST…LIKE…JEWS.
ANTISEMITISM!!!
He thinks I'm an anti-Semite. Is that what you consider a good grip on reality?
More later.
No, not that part; obviously he doesn’t know you and he’s only concluding from your recent posts written in aid of balancing matters. Although I hardly think pro-Jewish posters wrote much here to disbalance the discussion. They are reacting to the article and the usual suspects at UR.
To sum up my previous comment; not only are diaspora Jews way more “leftist” and “anti-racist” than White Americans, they’re also way more “rightist” and “racist” than White Americans. The only way to square this circle is Jewish Supremacy; Jews do what’s “good for the Jews.” In the diaspora, as a minority, that means pushing leftism and “anti-racism.” In Israel, as a majority, that means pushing rightism and “racism.” Globally, it means a strong alliance between the two camps.
That’s Jewish White Supremacy, plain and simple. There’s no better explanation (Occam’s Razor certainly agrees).
Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No. They’re masters of rationalization, compartmentalization, self-deception, etc. And one of the least ethnically introspective groups on the planet, after correcting for IQ (usually it’s stupid people who share that trait). And the major convenience of Jewish Culture is, if you criticize them, question them, or bring this stuff to their attention, you’re an antisemtic Nazi who wants to kill 6 million more. Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.
Jews fucking know I’m right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They’re too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue.
If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you’ll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.
No. Empirical knowledge is still FTW.
Can’t we assume Ethan cares even less for non-American lives?
Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.
Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
Well….well……
A couple of things out of it.
First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That’s for power players. Your “smart” approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?
Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the…..rage….at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your “smart” approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.
So….you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.
You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls “smarts” of the system, they control “tools” of it. The power of the state. Police…military…..guns….The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren’t for the power of the state. Don’t delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it’s police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.
So…either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem “out of it”.
That's Jewish White Supremacy, plain and simple. There's no better explanation (Occam's Razor certainly agrees).
Now, are Jews, in the main and in the aggregate, conscious of this? No. They're masters of rationalization, compartmentalization, self-deception, etc. And one of the least ethnically introspective groups on the planet, after correcting for IQ (usually it's stupid people who share that trait). And the major convenience of Jewish Culture is, if you criticize them, question them, or bring this stuff to their attention, you're an antisemtic Nazi who wants to kill 6 million more. Basically, their Jewish White Supremacist culture is hardened, weaponized, and impenetrable to criticism.
Jews fucking know I'm right. They always run from me or ignore me after a few exchanges. They're too ethnocentric and in love with themselves to handle an honest discussion of this issue.If diaspora Jews divest from the sniveling Israeli Jewish race, which bars all competition from foreign goys altogether (Chinese alone would eat their lunch, otherwise), you'll have a point. But as long as Israeli Jewry cowers in fear of competition, not so much.No. Empirical knowledge is still FTW.
That’s intriguing coming from you Svigor, the man who established the ploy of unlinked responses.
Life is a study in duality, or did you miss that important lesson in the Talmud? For Chrissakes! Why Talmud? Our G’d the omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, the definition of perfection, was split asunder in Christianity to become a human, with all sins, including argumentativeness.
Well, perhaps I am wrong about the duality; I should more accurately speak of the Trinity: what is the Holy ghost? Do you realise that when you chose Jesus you submittted to this Jewish paradox?
Are you blind? Jewish introspectiveness, or rather its surfeit, is precisely why we are usually branded neurotic. Woody Allen anyone? What about the crazy loon Jews dotting the landscape? The ones that support the BDS and the like, people like Weiss, Finklestein and their ilk?
Humbug. Define White. Jews can be white-skinned, olive skinned, and every shade in between and beyond. Listen to Ben Shapiro. He says clearly he is White, but his wife, who is of Moroccan heritage isn’t. Jews overwhelmingly do not subscribe to any form of supremacism. When you see a plurality of Israelis expressing the view that Arabs ought to be driven out of Israel, you are witnessing rather a recent attitude precipitated by many factors.
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They do? What’s your goal/purpose? Ask and thou shall receive.
“Divest from Israeli Jewish race”. Ok by that you mean Jewish Americans should stop supporting Israel, I presume. Break up AIPAC? Stop using Israeli products and technology? Why should they? The Chinese are actually increasing their collaboration with Israel [as is India], so why precisely should American Jews do the reverse?
A couple of things out of it.
First, your group is seen as a competitor in the power game. Not a victim, not a group to be careful about because of all those bad things that happened to it, but a competitor. That's for power players. Your "smart" approach could, maybe, appease those other players. Worked well so far. But maybe you just got too successful?
Second, for the common people. In the current world (1 %, destruction of middle class and the works) your group, as the top group in the game is then perceived responsible for all that. All the.....rage....at the current paradigm goes against your group. What is that hard to understand about it I wonder? Your "smart" approach does not work here. The world here is crude, simple and hard. Nor erudite spinning works here.
So....you have a problem. Your group, and then of course, implicitly you.
You are also smart enough to understand that what protects you, really, is a collusion with Anglo-Saxon group. While your group controls "smarts" of the system, they control "tools" of it. The power of the state. Police...military.....guns....The things that, ultimately, really matter in the game of power. Nobody would give a shit about saying what he/she thinks about Jews if it weren't for the power of the state. Don't delude yourself for a second that control of finance, media, educational system and such gives you the power. The power you guys have comes, ultimately, as always, from the barrel of the gun. Currently it's police, but people know if it really comes to that the military will step in too.
So...either way you cut it, it appears that you pissed your main competitor and previous senior partner. So, yes, you do have a problem "out of it".
There is truth in what you say, but it is not complete. Longer discussion required. BTW Jewish interests in the Anglosphere is never distinct from that of the sovereign, UR nuts notwithstanding. E.g. Jews in the U.K. are deeply aligned with the interests of the Crown, while in the U.S. they are far more diverse in attitudes, but always loyal to the State.
This bit:
is crudely true and I believe we’ve thought about it once in a while
I doesn't help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.
Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.
Seen before.
The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.
All this recently just......feels...........that way.
but always loyal to the State.
I doesn’t help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to "the State" or "the Crown" as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.
Oh yes…. But, see, maybe the time for discussion is running out. Not here in “chat-sphere” but in real life. You guys ARE smart. So….maybe you should try to find a way out of all….that.
I agree, actually. But, see, the problem is, SOMEBODY has to be held responsible for the death of “social contract”. Of, essentially, death of “upward mobility”, “American dream”, any expression which describes that by obeying a law and decent work a person can make his/her life better. As I sad before several times all this “Jew this/that” just……feels…..wrong. Just a feeling.
Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.
Feels as…..scapegoating……..a junior partner/Finance Director.
Seen before.
The king and his Jewish “money guy” fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish “money guy”, well, didn’t have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila…it’s not the King, or nobles…it’s that filthy Jewish “money guy”. I mean, the “money guy” was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.
All this recently just……feels………..that way.
Ethan's reaction is entirely normal. He is likely a new reader of this webzine, and his reaction is that of someone who has a good grip on reality. Speaking one's position does not make a poster a hasbarist. Indians are not merely motel owners but in fact the dominant group in Silicon Valley. Koreans, are not nail salonists; while not a group which has risen in easily visible political rank, they remain nevertheless, highly significant politically, in that S.Korea is a vital partner in American economic interests. Ditto Japan, Taiwan, Vietnam and now, increasingly India. The US will not forfeit her interests in these groups any more than Russia will in her's. Nations only have interests, not drinking buddies.
Iffen, apologies, but I'll use this space for a general message:
General message to snivellers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of American life and business today. What of it? Are we required to assume a deliberately submissive back-seat because a fringe group would like us to? If so, they can think again. I invite the churlish mental midgets to unseat us from those positions both real and figments of their imaginations. Or, you can rant on the UR - a great deal easier, while Jews, Indians, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, Mexicans, etc. eat your lunch :) . Hopping mad yet?
9:00 am Berlin – a statement by Herr Samuel Shamaberg on October 29, 1929,
General message to snivelers: Jews may be dominant in many areas of German life and business today. What of it?
Think Peace — Art
Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.
Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.
Seen before.
The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.
All this recently just......feels...........that way.
All this recently just……feels………..that way.
The Jews have been through this before, in Europe and Russia.
I think America is different. It can’t happen here.
I’m not sure that if I was Jewish I would rely upon iffen’s intuition.
You mean blaming Jews for the current ills of society?
Sure……..
Because America is……..special. Because Americans are………special. Unique in their qualities. Not as the rest of the world.
You joking?
Looks to me as Jews aren’t getting the joke. Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.
They are probably wrong. I mean…what are they basing their concern on? A couple of thousand years of experience? They should rely on “special quality” of American people The country with, what, around 200 years of history behind it. Doubt it, somehow.
Besides, that America (the land of opportunity) ain’t there anymore.
So…as always, WHY?
An average American is going to study the topics, get into deep introspection and act upon the result of all that mental…even spiritual work?
Sure……..
Or he/she is going to blame the current guy percieved to be on the top? Especially if that guy is slightly….different. And especially if some other powerful guy is saying so. A guy who feels less different. And especially if that guy is perceived as a good guy. A guy who brought that good life he/she had before. As some people here keep saying: we just get rid of Jews and we’ll get back to when things were good. Simple, clear….marketable and sell-able solution. For crowds. And that is all what matters.
I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.
I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?
I guess it is now time to cancel my TAC on-line subscription. If TAC feels like it should fire PG for this, then they obviously no longer represent true conservatives. I may not agree with all of his assessments, but I stand by his right to discuss these things.
I doesn't help your case to make factually incorrect statements like this.
Allow me to correct this observation.
It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to “the State” or “the Crown” as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.
And Chmielnicki's problem, come to think of it.
Sure........
Because America is........special. Because Americans are.........special. Unique in their qualities. Not as the rest of the world.
You joking?
Looks to me as Jews aren't getting the joke. Feels as they are getting........slightly anxious.
They are probably wrong. I mean...what are they basing their concern on? A couple of thousand years of experience? They should rely on "special quality" of American people The country with, what, around 200 years of history behind it. Doubt it, somehow.
Besides, that America (the land of opportunity) ain't there anymore.
So...as always, WHY?
An average American is going to study the topics, get into deep introspection and act upon the result of all that mental...even spiritual work?
Sure........
Or he/she is going to blame the current guy percieved to be on the top? Especially if that guy is slightly....different. And especially if some other powerful guy is saying so. A guy who feels less different. And especially if that guy is perceived as a good guy. A guy who brought that good life he/she had before. As some people here keep saying: we just get rid of Jews and we'll get back to when things were good. Simple, clear....marketable and sell-able solution. For crowds. And that is all what matters.
I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.
You joking?
No, I think we are different, politically and demographically.
Feels as they are getting……..slightly anxious.
What supports this opinion? (Don’t cite Sam’s recent trend toward outrageousness in his comments.)
I somehow believe that Jews would put their money on the later.
So why are most of them doubling down on the other side?
Isn’t that obvious?
The approach to the “hate speech” we see recently, among other things.
Trying to nip the issue in bud before it spreads out.
You mean on the side of the Establishment?
Well…..that’s very interesting question.
Multiple reasons I guess.
From being Satan spawn to clueless kids….
One of reasons, though, could be…..what choice do they have?
When dealing with the Establishment it’s simple: serve the Power and get the benefit. There is certain logic, predictability there.
When dealing with ….sort of….movement against Establishment, as it is now, one doesn’t have that predictability there . There is certain….irrationality….there.
They, being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
Something like that.
I suspect.
I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?
The approach to the "hate speech" we see recently, among other things.
Trying to nip the issue in bud before it spreads out.You mean on the side of the Establishment?
Well.....that's very interesting question.
Multiple reasons I guess.
From being Satan spawn to clueless kids....
One of reasons, though, could be.....what choice do they have?
When dealing with the Establishment it's simple: serve the Power and get the benefit. There is certain logic, predictability there.
When dealing with ....sort of....movement against Establishment, as it is now, one doesn't have that predictability there . There is certain....irrationality....there.
They, being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with "power and greed" then "irrational, emotional, angry crowd".
Something like that.
I suspect.
serve the Power and get the benefit.
I don’t buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don’t they just give Ivan what he needs?
The problem with that Power was.....it was.....not wise.
It used "Jew thing" to create and maintain own credibility.
Well, the "Jew thing", by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
So, in time Jews took over.It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.All this......rage..........irrational outbursts..........against Jews does NOT do that.It's expected.Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
The masters of the game.In any case it's interesting to watch all that.And, I am not quite sure Americans ("deplorables" that is) are going to win this one.They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.So.....
I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?
It couldn’t happen in Poland until Chmielnicki happened first.
It may not be a good thing for Jews to be seen as loyal to "the State" or "the Crown" as opposed to being loyal to the nation, to the people.
Yeah, that’s the problem Joseph’s people had with the Egyptians.
And Chmielnicki’s problem, come to think of it.
I don't buy that they are simply serving the power. They have considerable power themselves.
being smart people, I guess find easier to deal with “power and greed” then “irrational, emotional, angry crowd”.
If they are still afraid of Ivan because Ivan only works for the week-end, why don't they just give Ivan what he needs?
Now they are.
But it started with serving the Power.
The problem with that Power was…..it was…..not wise.
It used “Jew thing” to create and maintain own credibility.
Well, the “Jew thing”, by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
So, in time Jews took over.
It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.
All this……rage……….irrational outbursts……….against Jews does NOT do that.
It’s expected.
Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.
They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.
So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
The masters of the game.
In any case it’s interesting to watch all that.
And, I am not quite sure Americans (“deplorables” that is) are going to win this one.
They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.
So…..
True, one of my favorite points.
More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.
BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn't matter anymore.
We's all Jews now! Same-same!
Honorable Mr. Philip Giraldi! Thanks for your courage. Your article is good minded and gives a solution to solve the problem, but as you mention “As none of the above is likely to happen” there is at least the hope remaining . Nevertheless all readers are enriched by your strength and your clarity. This article is providing a lot of energy for fighting against the devil..
The problem with that Power was.....it was.....not wise.
It used "Jew thing" to create and maintain own credibility.
Well, the "Jew thing", by its very nature, serves Jews better than that Power.
So, in time Jews took over.It helps, when dealing with an opponent, to put yourself in his/her shoes.All this......rage..........irrational outbursts..........against Jews does NOT do that.It's expected.Americans, for all their knowledge, capability and power are not wise.They are now dealing with something that most of other peoples of this world have been dealing for millennia.So, Americans have a new problem, and they deal with wise people (in that game) who have been developing their game for millennia in most adverse conditions.
The masters of the game.In any case it's interesting to watch all that.And, I am not quite sure Americans ("deplorables" that is) are going to win this one.They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
The opponent has it all sassed out in minute detail.So.....
They appear not to have even a platform to start with.
True, one of my favorite points.
More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.
BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn’t matter anymore.
We’s all Jews now! Same-same!
I, personally, know I am not.But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort.......and no result?If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that's just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.But all we have is "that not good, this not good, look at that...look at this....and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that...blah..blah...blah..."Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
"Alternative".......just..........endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
Boils down to simple .......relief.
And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs. So, the question is "why"?And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
For any reason imaginable.We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.
As even you admit, the “native inhabitants of Palestine” are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian”.
Anyway, the vast majority of American Jews voted for the anti-Iraq war candidate in 2008 over the “bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran” candidate.
Giraldi clearly has an emotionally based animus toward and obsession with Jews. Good for the American Conservative.
Another wet dream of the Jews. Millions of disappeared Palestinians.
The Jew capacity for lies is unbound. What a tribal cabal of thug guilt pushers. They say your relatives killed six million of them in WWII - so you must ignore their evil today. Of course the "six million" is a lie.
Tell the truth about them and they will attack you - call you names - threaten your livelihood.
Clearly the Jews have an inferior thug culture.
Think Peace --- Art
Another fantastic article by Phil Weiss, who some would describe as a “self-loathing creature” for revealing the truth. While I’ve provided an excerpt of the first few paragraphs below, it’s worth reading the entire article:
Another article that supports the validity of the premise of Phil’s article:
True, one of my favorite points.
More later, much to think about, not sure I have the neuron strength to power through, certainly not in one sitting, if ever.
BTW, if the piece that Sam linked is true, it doesn't matter anymore.
We's all Jews now! Same-same!
My thought and sentiment for quite some time, definitely.
Maybe you aren’t smart enough for that.
I, personally, know I am not.
But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.
All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort…….and no result?
If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that’s just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.
But all we have is “that not good, this not good, look at that…look at this….and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that…blah..blah…blah…”
Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
“Alternative”…….just……….endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
Boils down to simple …….relief.
And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs.
So, the question is “why”?
And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
For any reason imaginable.
We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.
Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.
Anyway, the vast majority of American Jews voted for the anti-Iraq war candidate in 2008 over the "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" candidate.
Giraldi clearly has an emotionally based animus toward and obsession with Jews. Good for the American Conservative.
As even you admit, the “native inhabitants of Palestine” are in fact Jews. There is no such thing as a “Palestinian”.
Another wet dream of the Jews. Millions of disappeared Palestinians.
The Jew capacity for lies is unbound. What a tribal cabal of thug guilt pushers. They say your relatives killed six million of them in WWII – so you must ignore their evil today. Of course the “six million” is a lie.
Tell the truth about them and they will attack you – call you names – threaten your livelihood.
Clearly the Jews have an inferior thug culture.
Think Peace — Art
Get rid of the “christian-zionist” OXYMORON.
The “rapture” Prophets for PROFIT are ANTI-Christ DEATH CULTISTS. God/Jesus put you in this LIFE to learn “soul lessons”, to increase your consciousness to the point of Redemption. Hagee and his Ilk REJECT the LIFE God gave you, and dangle a “shortcut” in front of people, just as SATAN dangled Temptation in front of Jesus. Do not follow the ANTI-Christ lies of FALSE prophets. There will be ONE Judgement Day, and NO ONE is going to “bypass” it by being “raptured”, that is a lie from Satan and his television IMPS. Their “shortcut” of cheating God’s lessons does NOT lead to Heaven, any more than cheating on school work teaches you the subject. Hagee, Robertson, the whole group, do NOT believe in anything except the MONEY they collect for leading their Flocks astray. From the Hagee church on down to Pat Robertson, it’s all ANTI-Christ. I don’t believe their savior would’ve approved of fat bank accounts & massive multi million dollar buildings. Christian institutions today represent the most perverse translation of Christianity
http://www.jeff-goodall.com/?p=8955
The problem, is the belief system of Christian Zionists. They believe that what Israel wants is what God wants. Therefore, it is perfectly acceptable to give the green light to whatever it is Israel wants and then conceal this from the American people. Anything, including lies, theft, even murder, is justified as long as Israel wants it. Then why did JESUS suffer on the cross!?
With more than 50 millions members, Christians United for Israel is a major politica force in the U.S.. Its Chairman, pastor John Haggee, declared: “The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West, [...] a biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ”. Have you ever LOOKED at HAGEE — at best he is a glutton ….
“rapture” is actually a vicarious form of SUICIDE. “rapture” is an extremely SELF-ABSORBED way of saying “I am SO perfect” and anyone I dislike will be LEFT BEHIND to suffer(feel bad because I am gone) but I will revel in heaven.
One of the major problems America faces is a large population of religious fundamentalists who have become as fanatical in their own way as any Middle Eastern Ayatollah. At present, they are caught up in their own version of the myth of the end of the world, and hope that by working to bring it about, they’ll get to sit at the right hand of their diety and to hell with everyone else. No doubt fistfights will break out over who gets to sit closest, but that is a subject for another article.
So fervent is the belief of the mythoholics that they are ready and willing to sacrifice money, children, civil rights, freedom, even life itself (so long as it is someone else’s) to bring about the final rapture and end of the world. Never mind that the story of the Rapture appears nowhere in the Bible, but was the invention of a Civil War veteran, Cyrus Scofield. Never mind that the present-day charlatan selling this belief might be a child molester and makes money off of these fables; the seekers (and there is one born every minute) do so want to believe!
“The Incredible Scofield and His Book” written by Joseph M. Canfield, reveals the following:Cyrus Scofield is a small time politician and career criminal. In 1873, he is forced to resign his position as a District Attorney because of crooked financial transactions that include accepting bribes stealing political contributions, and securing bank notes by forging signatures. Scofield then serves jail time for forgery charges. A heavy drinker, Scofield later abandons his wife and two daughters. His wife finally divorces the drunken crook in 1883. As so many con-men do, Scofield will then claim to have “found Jesus”. He is ordained as a Minister and then claims to have a Doctor of Divinity degree, but this degree is never verified. After several mysterious trips to Europe and New York, Scofield publishes the notated reference Bible that bears his name. scofield’s wife divorced him when he went to prison for mortgage fraud. Scofield defrauded his mother in law out of her life savings and went to prison. supposedly he was “saved” in prison and wrote his Bible notes. His “Bible” sold hundreds of thousands of copies and made him a rich man. Scofield never repaid his mother in law for the money he stole from her and per his two daughters he never paid one penny of support to either one of them.The added side notes in Scofield’s Bible inject a very weird “End Times” prophecy into Christianity.
http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm
Why is that a comment? What is all this craziness about white. Do you mean Caucasian?
We are. So are Hispanics, Arabs, persians, etc., etc. What’s the point?
I, personally, know I am not.But, and this is really, IMHO, bottom line for all this online blathering; how come that nobody came up with it so far?
THAT is the fundamental question, a big elephant in the room, nobody wants to talk about.All these Web sites, forums, hundreds of thousands posts, apparently huge effort.......and no result?If we take into account that for most posters on Internet that's just either entertainment, socializing and online therapy, still, there is at least 10 % of smart people who could produce something.But all we have is "that not good, this not good, look at that...look at this....and, of course, Jews this, Neocons that...blah..blah...blah..."Powers that be have tons of think tanks producing position papers, plans, platforms, the works. Serious work. Serious people.
"Alternative".......just..........endless complaining really. Nothing of substance. No effective result. Irrelevant.
Boils down to simple .......relief.
And then back to real life. Ruled by the PTBs. So, the question is "why"?And a possible answer is: maybe we are all just losers in the game.
For any reason imaginable.We lost and now we congregate together and have our online therapy.Virtual fantasies that help us keep going in real life.
how come that nobody came up with it so far?
Capable people are doing okay (especially Jews); piss on hoi poi, I got mine.
Hoi poi do not have the skills to organize and protect themselves.
The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine tells us quite a bit about where “we” are vis-a-vis Jews. It is very difficult to argue against his thesis.
You can’t out-Jew the Jew.
iffen:
Unless you’re Chinese, or more accurately, China.
What the heck is”hoi poi”? Is it some kind of Vietnamese dish that is so bad people usually end up pissing on it?
Or, maybe, you meant “hoi polloi” – Greek for “the many”?
Relax, I misspelled a word.
It's not like I committed a major fox paw.
It's not like it interferes with my Nazi recognition abilities.
It's not like I forgot what holohoax spells.
Like blaming a junior partner, or Finance Director, for not delivering profit to small shareholders as promised. Not blaming the game (small shareholders) and taking responsibility (senior partner, Board of Directors). THAT is something of interest, maybe.
Feels as.....scapegoating........a junior partner/Finance Director.
Seen before.
The king and his Jewish "money guy" fleeced the kingdom. King stupid, Jewish "money guy", well, didn't have much of a choice to start with. And when the kingdom got pissed of, voila...it's not the King, or nobles...it's that filthy Jewish "money guy". I mean, the "money guy" was definitely guilty party for sure. But not the only one. And probably not the most guilty as well.
All this recently just......feels...........that way.
Sorry for the delayed response, but it was Yom Kippur, which just got over.
I am not sure that we are any smarter than the rest of humanity, and no such claims are being made by Jews. I just got back to reading this blog post and thought I should respond to this entry of yours, since there is something meaningful to say here, as opposed to the rest. I confess nonetheless, I am not entirely sure what you mean by “try to find a way out of it all”. If you mean an impending revolution with guillotines and the other paraphernalia destined for the elite, I should very much doubt it. The median American is getting on reasonably well, though not relative to the upper deciles; and the lower third are not suffering the conditions of the sans culottes viewed from the perch of the noblesse de l’Ancien Regime. If there is discontent, it is chiefly perceptible in the erstwhile lower ranges of the top twentieth percentile and the thirtieth percentile, i.e., your middle management and rank and file knowledge workers who find themselves increasing displaced by forces of technological change and policies which were undertaken decades earlier to offshore industrial production.
This is reversible in theory, but as we know, theory never quite translates into practice. I am not even sure how one goes about such re-industrialisation. It would be an effort of massive scale and a fundamental change in the attitudes of the polity towards re-tooling education and training, perhaps mirroring the model of the German state today, or that of Korea. The American liberal arts college system, I fear, is primarily a holding pen for the semi-literate, scantily mathematical, herds of barely willing youth for whom work begins to resemble a chore. And they’d much rather collect a living stipend from the state [or Soros? Revo, Lucio, and Nario, the three brothers of Marxist lore are nowhere in sight!], a few Apple gadgets thrown in semi-annually for good measure, and you’d keep them from excessive mischief. Zuck’s proposal in other words. We are rapidly moving in that direction in my reckoning.
The question is who is this SOMEBODY? I’d be the first to concede that financialisation of the economy, in which my fellow co-religionists play no small part, has become the most glaring departure from what used to be a more “wholesome” society according to some. Yet it was in the making whether America participated in that inevitability or not. The industrial world, post-WWII, consisting of W. Europe, Japan, and China [albeit to a lesser extent initially] was hardly going to decelerate its march forward had the US decision been to remain static. Financialisation today is little more than the logical end-result of fractional reserve banking: a vital necessity for a world in which the forces of technological advancement could simply not be met by a monetary regime stuck with a model where only current period savings finance the capacity produced by technology. Thus fractional reserve banking can be viewed as a rapid deployment strategy to harness future savings in order to promote current investments. Without those investments over the 1945-1990 period, the world would not be what it is today. Of this I am confident.
Yet financialisation and the ensuing technological change unleashed inequality of income and wealth. Regulations, or rather the removal of certain important ones, also contributed to inequality. I do not see this changing. Trump today, is busy extending and enhancing this trend while pouring anodynes into the ears of the crowd [including your interlocutor] which voted him to power.
Perhaps the only remedy is a more robust version of Zuckerberg’s proposal, one which somehow manages to impart a sense of achievement amongst the population not particularly critical nor entirely redundant in growing the economic output. A virtual reality augmentation, if you will.
For matters more in the context of nurturing our human condition, where the economic model is considered wanting, more of a hindrance than an aid, I am not your man. As a Jew, I am only capable of talking about simple things, not in the realm of philosophy, morality, or ethics. For that, there are better men here on this board.
Well….I was thinking along the lines of you Jews, being smart and all that, could try to find a solution to REAL problems of this world. I mean, somebody should.
It’s more than those I am afraid.
Its lower strata of society, from lower middle class downwards.
So, if we put all those together, it’s a sizeable chunk of society getting unhappy.
I believe that social upheavals start when middle class (all layers of it) starts getting pissed off. And humans, being what they are, do like finding human target to unload all that rage on. And, as things look now, your people started appearing more and more as that target.
Me neither.
And after all these years chatting on Internet haven’t found any feasible option. Hence, maybe there is none. I don’t know.
But what I do know is rage. Seen it…was part of it, worked with it…..and wasn’t pretty. Seen movie “Forbidden Planet”? Demon from Id?
When a mass of people get into that state you either try to move them down with automatic weapon until even spare barrels melt, or you run away (O.K, with Gatling systems it is easier, I concede). There is no reasoning with IT.
Maybe Americans can’t get there. Maybe they can.
That’s it.
Your people….money masters. That’s the growing perception. And that perception is all what matters.
I HATE getting personal on Internet sites. You strike me as an “intellectual” type. A type who knows about dark sides of human nature through studying it. Books, intellectual approach. But you’ve never dealt with it face to face. You should try sometime.
You try for a couple of seconds and then you see…feel it. And from then on it’s either you cut them down or they stomp you head into pulp. You of all people should know that.
Do not ever overestimate a hindbrain of an average person frustrated by perceived failure in his/her life.
Hehe…see…you are a smart guy.
I don’t know much about that topic. Or, better, more I read about it more I got confused. What I do know, though, is problem solving, planning…execution. The method.
That’s why I see all this Internet blathering just that……blathering with occasional connect with somebody you can learn a bit here and there.
I’ve never seen, so far, the method in works there.
Say, a world wide alt-right/whatever panel of top intellectuals discussing the issue, producing an action plan, marketing it to people (Internet) and then, forcing powers that be to do something. Having plan for that “forcing” as well.
Me neither if it goes this way. But, then, everyday “little” Jews will feel the fallout. I am sure of it.
Probably. Hopefully. Not only on this board but anywhere.
They are good at keeping silent and ineffective for the moment, though. Very good indeed.
Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
Sorta. It’s how PC round eye tourists in Saigon try to order Vietnamese hot pot.
Its lower strata of society, from lower middle class downwards.
So, if we put all those together, it’s a sizeable chunk of society getting unhappy.
I believe that social upheavals start when middle class (all layers of it) starts getting pissed off. And humans, being what they are, do like finding human target to unload all that rage on. And, as things look now, your people started appearing more and more as that target.Me neither.
And after all these years chatting on Internet haven’t found any feasible option. Hence, maybe there is none. I don’t know.
But what I do know is rage. Seen it…was part of it, worked with it…..and wasn’t pretty. Seen movie “Forbidden Planet”? Demon from Id?
When a mass of people get into that state you either try to move them down with automatic weapon until even spare barrels melt, or you run away (O.K, with Gatling systems it is easier, I concede). There is no reasoning with IT.
Maybe Americans can’t get there. Maybe they can.That’s it.
Your people….money masters. That’s the growing perception. And that perception is all what matters.
I HATE getting personal on Internet sites. You strike me as an “intellectual” type. A type who knows about dark sides of human nature through studying it. Books, intellectual approach. But you’ve never dealt with it face to face. You should try sometime.
You try for a couple of seconds and then you see…feel it. And from then on it’s either you cut them down or they stomp you head into pulp. You of all people should know that.
Do not ever overestimate a hindbrain of an average person frustrated by perceived failure in his/her life.Hehe…see…you are a smart guy.
I don’t know much about that topic. Or, better, more I read about it more I got confused. What I do know, though, is problem solving, planning…execution. The method.
That’s why I see all this Internet blathering just that……blathering with occasional connect with somebody you can learn a bit here and there.
I’ve never seen, so far, the method in works there.
Say, a world wide alt-right/whatever panel of top intellectuals discussing the issue, producing an action plan, marketing it to people (Internet) and then, forcing powers that be to do something. Having plan for that “forcing” as well.Me neither if it goes this way. But, then, everyday “little” Jews will feel the fallout. I am sure of it.Probably. Hopefully. Not only on this board but anywhere.
They are good at keeping silent and ineffective for the moment, though. Very good indeed.
find a solution to REAL problems of this world
Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
There are real and mounting problems in West.
It feels as powers that be aren't keen on addressing those problems.
When I said problems, I meant "problems for lower 60 % of society". Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.
So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
You have to address it....MANAGE it......not change....manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.
First it come breads and circuses...a bit of carrot.
Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).
Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
'They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be...great...again....".
This "Jews did it all" thing just feels that way.
What the heck is”hoi poi”?
Relax, I misspelled a word.
It’s not like I committed a major fox paw.
It’s not like it interferes with my Nazi recognition abilities.
It’s not like I forgot what holohoax spells.
Thank you for writing this.
Jewish thought is not only a factor in our wars in the Middle East but may also be instrumental in our animosity towards Russia.
Zbigniew Brzezinski – was a Jew born in Poland
Henry Kissinger – was a Jew born in Germany
It’s obvious to me that their experiences affected their attitudes towards Russia and that this played out in their foreign policy ideas.
Sometimes the best way to avoid consideration of unwanted solutions is to avoid accurately identifying the problem.
Agree, in principle.
There are real and mounting problems in West.
It feels as powers that be aren’t keen on addressing those problems.
When I said problems, I meant “problems for lower 60 % of society”. Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.
So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
You have to address it….MANAGE it……not change….manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.
First it come breads and circuses…a bit of carrot.
Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).
Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
‘They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be…great…again….”.
This “Jews did it all” thing just feels that way.
Anti-Semitism is a fringe of a fringe.
This is not the first op-ed in which Giraldi has asked uncomfortable questions of America’s Power Jews.
But from the moment I began noticing multiple “screen captures” of Valerie Plame’s tweet, whose sole purpose was to seal off her one means of escape (ie, deleting the tweet), you knew America’s Power Jews were out to bag a few scalps on this one. Resulting, sadly, in another instance of Conservatism, Inc stepping on its own dick while grinning painfully for the photo-op (that neither Jew nor Greek will bother to believe, or accept, in the first place).
It’s kind of unfortunate that APJs feign distaste at that gravy-sweating pantload John Podhoretz, who always comes in so handy on these yarmulke’d witch-hunts. Ever since he publicly twisted St Martin’s Press’s arm nearly out of its socket to violate their contracts with David Irving, back in the mid-90s, with dark threats of isolation and demonization – to say nothing of the subsequent demonetization sure to follow – all the snootier members of the tribe were handed the template for How To Do It, which they made sure to quietly Xerox for both study and safekeeping. Well – as long as they’re going to benefit from his tactics, they might as well be openly grateful to the greasy fat thug.
There are real and mounting problems in West.
It feels as powers that be aren't keen on addressing those problems.
When I said problems, I meant "problems for lower 60 % of society". Higher you go those problems stop being problems and start becoming opportunities and even benefits.
So, you have rising resentment of the current state by those 60 %.
You have to address it....MANAGE it......not change....manage. Keep the system going, of course, because ti benefits you, but you do have to manage that resentment.
First it come breads and circuses...a bit of carrot.
Then a bit of stick (surveillance and police state).
Then you sacrifice a pawn; one of your own.
'They did all this to you. We just get rid of them and all will be fine..all will be back as before when you were happy..We..will..be...great...again....".
This "Jews did it all" thing just feels that way.
This “Jews did it all” thing just feels that way.
You seem to imply that a part of the power structure is ready and willing to pick this up and go with it.
Anti-Semitism is a fringe of a fringe.
Jewish thought is not only a factor in our wars in the Middle East but may also be instrumental in our animosity towards Russia.
Zbigniew Brzezinski - was a Jew born in Poland
Henry Kissinger - was a Jew born in Germany
It's obvious to me that their experiences affected their attitudes towards Russia and that this played out in their foreign policy ideas.
Zbig was a gentile. Catholic.!
Looks like the Jew Trolls are having discussions among themselves to spam up the comment section.
Related to the title of this article “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars
Shouldn’t they recuse themselves when dealing with the Middle East?”
PROOF
Assange: REAL threat to US is not Russia but Israel
http://tapnewswire.com/2017/10/assange-real-threat-to-us-is-not-russia-but-israel/
Read this article and watch the video carefully. Mega mucho info.
Link to the the Senate Bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/10/text
Link to the Sponsor and 4 co-sponsoring TRAITORS and Goyim whores of this Bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/10/cosponsors
Trump the Goyim Tramp ain’t gonna do shit about this.
Giraldi’s article could have been taken right out of Der Shturmer. And the responses. Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.
I’ve not read one comment mentioning that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. And make no mistake, please. Jews = Israel = Jews.
Never thought it would happen in the US.
What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?
Never thought it would happen in the US.
Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.
I've not read one comment mentioning that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. And make no mistake, please. Jews = Israel = Jews.
Never thought it would happen in the US.
Some call the Jews “in question” neocons, in the same response call them Bolsheviks. Can’t have it both ways.
What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?
Never thought it would happen in the US.
Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.
You appear to be interested in the topic.
You also pose a lot of questions.
Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?
See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....
And that's pretty much it.
Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
Yeah....
Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....
So is this post.
Long history of imperial wars by United States.
Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.
So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?
This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.
So, I'd suggest:
"You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
A big problem."
What is your argument here? Are you calling for anti-Semites to be more competent and knowledgeable?
Never thought it would happen in the US.
Some of us never thought that the rule of law, electoral democracy, informed and professional journalism, academic freedom and freedom of speech and thought would be kicked to the curb, but it is happening.
Well…how about this?
You appear to be interested in the topic.
You also pose a lot of questions.
Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?
See how all this “things aren’t good” ….uhm….Internet conversations…..look, really:
1. This is not good…that is not good…this..that…this ….that…….with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
2. Jews did it….Niggers did it……Communists….this group…that group….evil group…..
And that’s pretty much it.
Looks very….competent…..productive……doesn’t it?
Yeah….
Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still….
So is this post.
Long history of imperial wars by United States.
Same 1/2 pattern, of course with “Jews” in majority.
So….if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?
This is what I’d suggest (it’s easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn’t ask a question unless they’d be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.
So, I’d suggest:
“You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn’t.
I’d suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
If….if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
A big problem.”
Better start building lots more FEMA camps, and prepare to activate all those dormant clauses in the Patriot Act (inter alia) that allow the fully totalitarian state that alone stands a chance of handling the situation to stand up, should the US' competitors better them in the field. After all, that's why those clauses were placed there.
You make it hard for me; so many problems so little ability.
I do not support isolating the Jews (or any ethnic group) in American politics.
To go off the JQ topic, I hope that there is a chance that Trumpism will split the Republican Party and the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part will give America a shot at surviving.
Military: Universal draft by lottery, no exemptions, additional draft as needed by occupation and ability.
Education: Voucher for pre-K through year 14 for each child. No financial support for students past year 14 except for proven intellectual heft (strict cut-off using ACT type tests; zero AA).
Economy: Immediate and total immigration hiatus (except for Einsteins and beauty queens). Immediate hiatus in expanded “free trade” with appropriate roll-back in crucial industries and sectors. Restricted universal basic income for every citizen.
Those who railed at Giraldi and at Plame-Wilson claiming they were spouting anti Semitic tropes have obviously missed this mini-clip of a longer article…see if this galls as much…and then I’ll tell you who wrote it and where…
“White Man’s Burden: Written in MARCH 2003…
“The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who were pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), was skeptical…………………and:
“In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion of morality and FORCE, human rights and grit.
The philosophical underpinnings of the Washington Neoconservatives are the writings of Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).
This older article is longer but I think the above snippets are enough to confirm that any who agree with such information must have been reading Ari Shavet on Haaretz….he was quite right..and so was Giraldi. Facts are facts.
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110#article-comments
You appear to be interested in the topic.
You also pose a lot of questions.
Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?
See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....
And that's pretty much it.
Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
Yeah....
Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....
So is this post.
Long history of imperial wars by United States.
Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.
So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?
This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.
So, I'd suggest:
"You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
A big problem."
You’re starting to make some sense in your most recent posts, Pete.
Yes, I think that is precisely the “problem” the US faces, and has been facing for some years. Its hemming and hawing over that decision is to be seen in its chaotic policy statements and decisions. It’s been prevaricating around the bush for a decade.
If the decision to go to war is made, you must simultaneously examine and prepare for an even bigger potential problem. What happens if you lose those wars? No jobs, no Empire, social/political/economic/financial chaos at home, and all the other features of a crash ‘n burn. March 2003 was a different world, and Imperial Wars at this stage of the game are going to be a close run thing. It would be damnably incompetent of you to leave the aftermath of failure to the vagaries of collapse.
Better start building lots more FEMA camps, and prepare to activate all those dormant clauses in the Patriot Act (inter alia) that allow the fully totalitarian state that alone stands a chance of handling the situation to stand up, should the US’ competitors better them in the field. After all, that’s why those clauses were placed there.
Those who won all battles shall lose the war.
Bilderberg Group and the crimes against humanity.
Whatever does not belong to them as property is under their absolute control. Just by looking at the executive staff of these mechanisms, conclusions may be drawn. Here follows the list with the Jews CEO running the global mechanism for the “production” and “dissemination” of propaganda for the New Order.
http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.com/2012/02/world-war-iii.html
You appear to be interested in the topic.
You also pose a lot of questions.
Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?
See how all this "things aren't good" ....uhm....Internet conversations.....look, really:
1. This is not good...that is not good...this..that...this ....that.......with plenty of quotes, links..whatever.
2. Jews did it....Niggers did it......Communists....this group...that group....evil group.....
And that's pretty much it.
Looks very....competent.....productive......doesn't it?
Yeah....
Beats shrinks, pills, alcohol, family violence and especially occasional public shootings, but still....
So is this post.
Long history of imperial wars by United States.
Same 1/2 pattern, of course with "Jews" in majority.
So....if you, say, were US President adviser, what would you suggest to him?
This is what I'd suggest (it's easy to ask questions; suggesting answers is where the real work is).
BTW, once upon a time when I was in position of some power, my subordinates wouldn't ask a question unless they'd be able to suggest a possible answer. Now, of course, there are no superiors/subordinates on Internet, but the same rule could apply. Of course it will not.
So, I'd suggest:
"You got into this position by promising certain things to people who put you here.
Going/not going to wars was ONE of those promises.
We both know that the most important thing you have to do is deliver MEANINGFUL JOBS to people.
Now, we both BELIEVE also that our economy and overall way of life as it is depends on imperial wars. Maybe it isn't.
I'd suggest creating a committee/panel/team to see is that true or not. The members should be picked up from within your power base. One month to deliver their position paper.
If....if..they conclude that imperial wars are necessary to create meaningful jobs to people who elected you, we have a problem.
A big problem."
Have you, by any chance, any possible suggestions if not answers?
You make it hard for me; so many problems so little ability.
I do not support isolating the Jews (or any ethnic group) in American politics.
To go off the JQ topic, I hope that there is a chance that Trumpism will split the Republican Party and the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part will give America a shot at surviving.
Military: Universal draft by lottery, no exemptions, additional draft as needed by occupation and ability.
Education: Voucher for pre-K through year 14 for each child. No financial support for students past year 14 except for proven intellectual heft (strict cut-off using ACT type tests; zero AA).
Economy: Immediate and total immigration hiatus (except for Einsteins and beauty queens). Immediate hiatus in expanded “free trade” with appropriate roll-back in crucial industries and sectors. Restricted universal basic income for every citizen.
Well…it’s not me, it’s the world we live in.
But, that sentence is the crux of it. Realizing own ability. Self-assessment, introspection. The hardest part today. Because, we are all…special….unique….we deserve the best….we, if given opportunity can be kings. Whites in particular.
Well…no.
Most of us aren’t very smart, don’t have high talents, lack hard self-discipline…etc…etc….
But…..the problem can be solved or not.
If it can be solved and I can’t do it…well…somebody probably can.
My personal belief (based on a bit of experience) is that pooling resources from similar minded folks can solve any practical political problem.
So…in this case, say, if I were that adviser to the President, I’d reach, over Internet, fuck, over this (and some other, of course) Websites and ask ….”who feels capable to start addressing THIS/THAT problem? Send your resume with cover letter to this email address.”
Then, I’d choose several persons who appear much, much smarter than I am and make a team.
Give them a task and time frame.
Replace some in instant if feeling not delivering. Blah…blah….Basic crisis management.
That is something I was, after November Miracle, expecting from the “Team Trump”. Because……I’ve seen this done, on lower levels of course, somewhere else.
You’d be surprised by amount of talent and capability that exists around. Those people just need an opportunity.
And, yes, for sure, wouldn’t mind some Jews on that team for sure. Groves didn’t mind Oppenheimer, Szilard, Peierls, Berthe and the rest.
Agree, of course. At least as a starting point of the, say, “The Improvement Project”/whatever.
Especially “the resulting populist/nationalist/freedom loving part”. There was a huge positive energy after November. A REAL populist would’ve used it. Should’ve used it. He/they didn’t.
Why he/they didn’t I do not know.
It would be….prudent….to know that “why”.
Next time (if it happens) they must.
Now, for this one:
could be a starting point for the real work. Everything is based on economy.
How would that work, I, personally, have no idea.
Financial system evaluation and possible change would the the most important.
Maybe before that realizing the future of work in increased automation.
And based on that the idea of “restricted universal income”. Etc.
The……….real……work………….
And, yes, Jews, Mongols, Aborigines, X-file aliens ….anyone is welcome in the team if capable and willing to contribute.
Or….all that is just bullshit.
Just get rid of Jews and all will be fine.
Much easier.
No headache.
Henceforward, I shall regard articles in The American Conservative with suspicion. I’ll disfavor articles I see in favor of those from other outlets, like the Unz Review.
Thank you for this article. Finally someone with enough “chandelier” to call a spade a spade. “Wherever there is strife, unemployment, poverty and war is looming you’ll fund the jews are at work..” never have truer words been spoken.
Unfortunately, I think the mistake that Mr. Giraldi makes is in calling for open identification of hawkish Jewish talking-heads. Because of the nature of Jewish power this just won’t work.
The way to confront the problems he correctly identifies in his article is to adopt what one might call Jewish methods. These methods would necessarily be unofficial, relatively unbureaucratic, somewhat grassroots and out of the public eye.
The gentiles might consider making a list, and simply making it available online. Of course, it would have to be ensured that the person belling the cat is not motivated by hate. No David Dukes or Brian Ruhes thank you very much.
But sadly, I do not trust that such a person could be found. So the only way forward with which the goyim are left, which I honestly think works just fine, is to seek out those for whom “The Jews” are an idee fixe (David Duke, Brian Ruhe, Brother Nathanael, and while not motivated by hate, Mr Giraldi), read them, and determine the validity of what they say.
So in the final analysis, I guess all that I’m advocating is reading widely.
Unfortunately, I think the mistake that Mr. Giraldi makes is in calling for open identification of hawkish Jewish talking-heads. Because of the nature of Jewish power this just won’t work.
The way to confront the problems he correctly identifies in his article is to adopt what one might call Jewish methods. These methods would necessarily be unofficial, relatively unbureaucratic, somewhat grassroots and out of the public eye.
The gentiles might consider making a list, and simply making it available online. Of course, it would have to be ensured that the person belling the cat is not motivated by hate. No David Dukes or Brian Ruhes thank you very much.
But sadly, I do not trust that such a person could be found. So the only way forward with which the goyim are left, which I honestly think works just fine, is to seek out those for whom “The Jews” are an idee fixe, read them, and determine the validity of what they say. Here one should feel free to read those motivated by hate. For those not motivated by hate Mr Giraldi is wonderful, or I might mention Kevin Macdonald & The Occidental Observer.
So in the final analysis, I guess all that I’m advocating is reading widely.
(dear comment section moderator, would you pretty please delete my previous comment and replace it with this one?)
In all probability not, however that’s the market charge.
Brainwashed?
just like they acquire western firstnames, they mix to sneak in.
Europeans know this topic very well.
Too well in my opinion.
Philip, an excellent article with which you hit the nail right on the head. The fact that TAC fired you over the phone by simply stating that the article was unacceptable, without giving proper reasons, is in fact a compliment, if I may say so, because it is an endorsement of everything you stated.
I hope you will find the energy and motivation to keep up the good work, calling a spade a spade, esp. in this case, and I sincerely hope the harassment will be bearable. I wish you lots of luck, success, and some result in a very corrupt US government that is in Israel’s stranglehold.
The problem with the phrase “The Jews” is that as a group Jews are so diverse and different, that one cannot properly speak about The Jews. When Zionist do so, they are wrong and should be called out. They have no right to speak for all “the” Jews. Since Zionists should not do so, neither should non-Jews or non Zionists. This is bound to lead to misunderstandings. Rather than speak of “The Jews” why not “some Jews” or “Zionist Jews”? Or Jewish Groups or “wealthy Jews”. But not The Jews. At least that is what it seems to me. That said, there is no question that deep pocketed Zionist Jews are absolutely obnoxious in their arrogance and deceitfulness.
“Israeli intelligence services, and the International Atomic Energy Agency, agrees: Iran is fulfilling its obligations.” A comment on antiwar.com
“Even Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s former national security advisor, Uzi Arad, says we ought to keep the deal in place” http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-horrifying-iran-deal-gambit-article-1.3546355
Many weeks after the disastrous direct ugly conflicts between US and Iran , those few dissenting opinions will be used to hide the otherwise 100% contribution ,solo efforts, persistent machinations to initiation of the war by the Evil Network .
Nowadays we hear a lot about some of those peripheral insignificant and transients utterances against the Iraq war in pre –March 2003 by certain as evidences of absence of any role by the Evil Network .
1 TV report: Islamic State chiefs gather near Israel border, set up training camp
Having fled Iraq and northern Syria, several top commanders of terror group now in Golan Heights enclave, recruiting and running propaganda effort, says Israel’s Channel 2″ https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-report-islamic-state-chiefs-gather-near-israel-border-set-up-training-camp/
2 Several senior commanders from Islamic State who recently fled from Iraq and northern Syria are now based in southern Syria, just across the Golan Heights border with Israel, and are training hundreds of new recruits there, an Israeli television report said.
Israel’s Channel 2 said the commanders have made their way to an Islamic State-controlled enclave “close to the border” with Israel. They have set up a training camp to which they have recruited 300 local youths, said the report, which showed footage apparently of the camp and training sessions.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-report-islamic-state-chiefs-gather-near-israel-border-set-up-training-camp/
3 Both the IS-affiliated Khalid ibn al-Walid Army and the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham, formerly the al-Nusra Front, which is linked to al-Qaeda, have been set up on Israel’s borders for years. .timesofisrael.com/
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Then they kill some (expendable terrorist to show the stupid Americans that Israel is against terrorism ) and sends F 16 to kill Syrian army threatens to fly 1000 miles to kill Iranians but leaves the terrorist next door
Co-Authors Reflect Ten years After Publishing Controversial Book,
'The Israel Lobby'
https://www.wbez.org/shows/worldview-podcast/coauthors-reflect-ten-years-after-publishing-controversial-book-the-israel-lobby/912a4c83-8144-442e-99b2-93e6156f39f4
"The 2007 book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy argued that a loose coalition of interests, which supports Israel, lobbies the U.S. government to skew U.S. foreign policy to Israel’s favor. The authors also assert this reality damages, both America’s and Israel’s, long-term interests. “The Israel Lobby” ignited a firestorm of debate. Critics accused the authors of giving voice to historic anti-Semitic slurs. Supporters hailed the book as opening a door to needed dialogue on a taboo subject.
Ten years later, the book’s co-authors, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, join Worldview to discuss the changes in Middle East dialogue in the decade since they wrote the book. Mearsheimer is professor of political science at the University of Chicago and authored numerous books including, The Tragedy of Great Power Politics. Walt is a professor of International Affairs at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government. He also authored the book, Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy."
CBS ’60 Minutes’ Executive Producer Jewish Jeff Fager tweets about ‘Russian influence’ but refused to have ’60 Minutes’ do a segment about the Mearsheimer/Walt book:
The debate about the Mearsheimer/Walt book continues. 60 Minutes declines to do a segment:
https://snuffysmithsblog.blogspot.com/2007/08/debate-about-mearsheimerwalt-book.html
Walt & Mearsheimer’s Proof That ‘Tail Wagged the Dog’ Points American Jews to a Universalist Ethos:
http://mondoweiss.net/2007/09/more-on-walt-me/
Mearsheimer/Walt ‘The Israel Lobby’ book mentioned during following radio show Phil Giraldi was on yesterday:
Although it is generally understood that American neoconservatives pushed hard for the war in Iraq, this book forcefully argues that the neocons' goal was not the spread of democracy, but the protection of Israel's interests in the Middle East. Showing that the neocon movement has always identified closely with the interests of Israel's Likudnik right wing, the discussion contends that neocon advice on Iraq was the exact opposite of conventional United States foreign policy, which has always sought to maintain stability in the region to promote the flow of oil. Various players in the rush to war are assessed according to their motives, including President Bush, Ariel Sharon, members of the foreign-policy establishment, and the American people, who are seen not as having been dragged into war against their will, but as ready after 9/11 for retaliation.
https://www.amazon.com/Transparent-Cabal-Neoconservative-National-Interest/dp/1932528172
The Unfolding of Yinon’s “Zionist Plan for the Middle East”: The Crisis in Iraq and the Centrality of the National Interest of Israel:
http://america-hijacked.com/2014/07/13/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east-the-crisis-in-iraq-and-the-centrality-of-the-national-interest-of-israel/
Neocon meteor Sen. Cotton is funded by Abrams, Adelson and Kristol and loves war a little too much
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/militaristic-adelson-kristol/
When people exclaim how they want to “kill all the Arabs”, how is that not anti-semitic? Do you folks even know what a semite is? It’s an ARABIC person, not some European person who has hijacked a religion from middle easterners. Best to watch some speeches by Rabbi David Weiss of NYC.
So I prefer to refer to them as Zionists rather than ‘jews’ as I do not want to smear a whole religion for what some who run a bad government do.
In addition to neocons is this :
http://truepublica.org.uk/ global/ex-british-ambassador- makes-astonishing-speech- about-tony-blair-george-bush- war-and-profit/
Ex British Ambassador Makes Astonishing Speech About Tony Blair, George Bush, War and Profit
Incredible. A writer in Canada would be thrown in prison for writing that. We’re not allowed to criticise Isreal or even say the word Jew without breaking the law about “inciting racial hatred.” Oddly, we’re allowed to have a go at Natives or Indians, but Isreal is sacred.
[…] det? 15 år senare skriver Philip Giraldi en artikel i samma tidning på samma tema men med titeln America’s Jews are Driving America’s Wars. Frågeställningen var ungefär densamma men nu utan omskrivningar. Artikeln pekar helt enkelt ut […]
What’s your opinion (real feelings) about Islam/Muslims ?
DO you think you can co-exist with them ?
Will they tolerate you (infidel) ?
Are you aware that you’re afflicted with mental disease ? (Denial)
The neocons did for Conservatism what the movie “Deliverance” did for southern hospitality.
Sucked into Fighting for Jews http://www.dcdave.com/poet15/160207.htm