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The Editorial page of The Washington Post newspaper generally holds to its current progressive-dominated program consisting of anti-racism, pro-diversity plus multiculturalism, “choice,” LGBTQ “rights,” and, ironically, constant war. It is not noted for its sense of humor except on Saturday morning when it runs a number of cartoons ridiculing Donald Trump.

All of which contributed to my surprise when I read a piece on January 29th penned by no less than Fred Hiatt, the Editorial and opinion pages editor. Fred, a Harvard graduate, of course, has been around at The Post since 2000. His foreign policy is pure John McCain and his domestic policy is Elizabeth Warren. Apparently kicking around people overseas is okay while in the United States white male Christian heterosexuals in particular can be targeted with impunity, but no one else.

Hiatt’s piece entitled “Trump considers the media his enemy. We shouldn’t treat him as ours” is the type of faux high-minded nonsense that one expects from the new breed of journalist that considers that reporting a story is not enough. For them, it is far more important to actually be the story through selective use of available information and the random insertion of opinion disguised as fact.

But back to Hiatt’s clearly robust sense of humor. He cited presidential adviser Stephen Bannon’s labeling the media the “opposition party,” noting that press-phobia is not exactly unusual for any White House, but warning “it is vital that we not become that party.” Rather than take on the Administration aggressively by exposing its lies, shutting it out or “be[ing] the voice of the other side,” the media should not “answer dishonest or partisan journalism” with “more partisan journalism, which would only harm our credibility.”

Hiatt’s answer to the “dishonest or partisan” journalism problem is “professionalism: to do your jobs according to the highest standards, as always.” He then adds “So far, I believe The Post has been setting the standard in this difficult job. It is not boasting for me to say so…” Regarding his own particularly bailiwick the “opinion side of the house…it is important to maintain a thoughtful perspective.”

Fred Hiatt cites a number of examples of Trump’s failings, including how, regarding immigration, “favoring one religion over another…defaces our democracy.” Surely Hiatt is aware that in practice immigration into the U.S. has frequently favored one religion or nationality or culture over others. During the past 50 years it has worked favorably for Cubans, Irishmen and Vietnamese Christians. Russian Jews benefited particularly as they were admitted as refugees under the 1975 Jackson-Vanik Amendment even though they were not notably persecuted and only had to prove that they were Jewish.

Jackson-Vanik was one of the first public assertions of neoconism, having reportedly been drafted in the office of Senator Henry Jackson by no less than Richard Perle and Ben Wattenberg. Its provision favoring Jews was expanded by the 1990 Lautenberg Amendment which widened the field to include Iranian Jews. As refugees instead of immigrants they received welfare, health insurance, job placement, English language classes, and the opportunity to apply for U.S. citizenship after only five years.

Hiatt’s apparent ignorance about how his Russian-Jewish neocon buddies like Max Boot arrived here is particularly noted as he is also Jewish. And Boot is far from alone. Steve Sailer reports that journalist Julia Ioffe, who complains regularly about American racism, Vladimir Putin and also Donald Trump, entered the U.S. under the Russian-Jewish waiver in 1990, bringing 60 of her family members along with her. One suspects that selective immigration policies are okay for Fred when it is one’s own tribe but immoral when it somehow involves Donald Trump.

Hiatt’s editorial page has also roundly condemned Donald Trump for his decision to restrict immigration from seven Muslim majority countries, conveniently ignoring the fact that President Barack Obama first came up with the exact same list of Muslim countries for special vetting in the December 2015 Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act.

Now consider Hiatt’s more general allegations regarding partisan and dishonest journalism for a minute. Anyone who regularly read either The Washington Post or New York Times during the recently concluded electoral campaign would have noted that the mainstream media was extremely hostile to Donald Trump and everything that he represented. It was and still is the “opposition,” as Bannon put it. The Post‘s journalists have been daily running multiple pieces, both in the news and opinion sections, criticizing everything relating to Trump for months including his wife’s clothing choices and there is no sign that it will stop anytime soon. And they have not been shy about it, criticizing not only his policies but also his appearance and character. The lampooning and sharp critique continue now that Trump is president. It is not that Trump is or should be immune from criticism – to be sure he has many legitimate detractors all across the political spectrum – but it is a question of how the critique is packaged and whether he is being treated fairly.

In fact, The Washington Post might well be the current leader when it comes to partisanship, fake news and heavily editorialized alleged “news reporting,” particularly when it comes to Russia, Iran or Donald Trump. It featured a completely fabricated story describing how a utility in Vermont had been hacked by the Russians without checking with the utility first. It also ran a front page piece on how hundreds of U.S. based media outlets and alternative websites were Russian “useful idiots” spreading Kremlin produced fake news and propaganda, basing its assessment on a questionable anonymously produced website called PropOrNot. Both stories were replayed widely in the national media before it was determined that they were completely wrong.

In support of its domestic agenda, The Post also ran a story describing how Planned Parenthood provides a broad range of women’s health services, including mammograms, which turned out to be untrue while failing to mention that it also performs 300,000 abortions each year. However one feels about Planned Parenthood, is that balanced and fact based reporting?

Apart from completely fake news, The Post is a master at editorializing what it describes as its news coverage. In a front page story on February 2nd, “Trump badgered, bragged and abruptly ended phone call with Australian leader,” paragraph four reads “Trump’s behavior suggests that he is capable of subjecting world leaders, including close allies, to a version of the vitriol he frequently employs against political adversaries and news organizations in speeches and on Twitter.” Does that pass the smell test for news reporting? Does “badgered, bragged”? And it later turned out that the call was not ended abruptly.

People like Fred Hiatt are precisely the reason why Donald Trump was elected by a public tired of arrogance, lies and media condescension. Fred’s hypocrisy is so blatant that anyone who dips into his newspaper to find enlightenment instead comes away reeking of propaganda, and particularly low propaganda at that. No Fred, The Washington Post is not the “highest standard” of journalism. It is hardly journalism at all. And the same goes for the crew at The New York Times as well as Charley Rose at CBS News, Wolf Blitzer at CNN and Rachel Maddow at MSNBC. Liars and knaves, every one of them.

The mainstream media talking heads want wars with Russia and Iran as well has heavy-handed intervention in Syria, hate Trump and everything he stands for, and love the whole world and its wonderful multicultural promise. Of course, their children go to private schools and will never be unemployed or have to put on a uniform or struggle to pay a mortgage while those pesky immigrants they love from a distance will never be able to afford to move in next door. Their understanding of flyover America and its problems is nil and their love of country is negotiable as they pursue higher ratings and more pats on the head from Hollywood celebrities, preening politicians and the country’s oligarchs. Steve Bannon was absolutely right when he said “the media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for a while.”

 
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  2. It is widely known that any Jew can immigrate to Israel, yet Muslims cannot. Even those born within Israel’s borders (aka the West Bank) cannot become a citizen. And no other nation on earth has built walls higher or thicker than Israel to keep out Muslims, and Christians.

    So it was bizarre to see Israel’s New York Senator Chuck Schumer denounce Trump’s temporary ban on immigration from seven war torn Muslim nations. He even shed tears on camera! The corporate media widely reported Schumer’s antics without a note of his open hypocrisy.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    It don't think such hypocrisy to be bizarre, it is just par for the course. Not that I am saying he is not a creepy creep, the man would not be capable of a sincere tear ever.

    His fat and unpleasant daughter, Amy, is a lot worse.

    Bottle-blonde, fat, supposedly a performer, but since she decides to present herself as a comedienne, and isn't funny, and isn't attractive, she is supposed to play Barbie in a forthcoming Disney feature film.

    What a joke!
    , @Wally
    Indeed.

    It's revealing that 'the media' supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while that same 'media' demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It's also revealing that we don't see 'the media' criticizing Israel's very real WALL.

    , @Forbes
    On Schumer's wall/ban hypocrisy: It all depends whose ox is being gored. Expecting consistency from folks with dual allegiances is like expecting the bi-polar to be single-minded.
    , @frayedthread
    I think Sudan once had a policy of allowing in any Muslim, no questions asked (they hosted Osama for a while).
    Wonder why mo' Muslims didn't take up on that kind offer.
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  3. Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo’s comments? There’s more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention. Some have hooked up the Progressive juice right up to a vein and have abdicated anything recognizable as thought.

    Random person: Trump might be right on this one little thing here.
    WaPo Comment Fauna: Skreeee! Nazi! Skreee! Hitler! Skreeeee! Skreee! Tiny hands!

    Yeah, they still trot out the tiny hands thing.

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    • Replies: @SteveM

    Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo’s comments? There’s more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention.
     
    That is true. However, the internet which is supposedly an expansive universe of diverse opinion is really just huge archipelago of ideological ghettos. Even rational argument that runs counter to a site's theology has the originator quickly banned as a "troll" by its thought police. Constant mutual reinforcement and nothing more on both the Left and the Right. Stalin would be proud.

    As Phil Giraldi has noted, the leftist, interventionist MSM is a lapdog for the corporate and political Cronies. However the Fox alternative has never been "fair and balanced". It has always been a tool of the Crony Right.

    The 4th Estate has completely sold out the American people. What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    It appears that Trump is getting rolled by the Neocon Militarists and the Banksters even as I post this. The Vampire Squid of cronyism appears to be invincible. For the 99%, it's all over but the crying...

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  4. ABC Australia did a hit-piece on Trump last night on its 4 Corners show. News becomes pure comedy when you introduce an “expert” as being a former NSC adviser to GW Bush, like that’s something anyone would want on their CV. First he says Trump is likely to be reckless when it comes to pushing the big, red button BUT then he goes on to say what a mistake it would be for Trump to forge better relations with Putin. WTF! Does anyone else see the illogic of that?

    The whole show was cringeworthy and was only worth watching to see actual history happening as a once respected national and international brand destroys the very trust that took years to build and then in a much less crowded market.

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    • Replies: @chris
    you mean that evil Putin is now amassing troops on Australia's border as well ?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You've been drinking again Nosey. I hadn't seen the Four Corners program - which you misleadingly imply is a "News" program rather than a 50 minute current affairs doco - but now I have. And I have watched the relevant sections twice to be sure that what I say is accurate.

    It wasn't a "hit piece" on Trump. But that is a matter of opinion. Everything else in your first par is wrong as a matter of fact apart from your comments which are merely unsupported by the facts. For example David Kramer, a former Assistant Secretary of State under Bush 43, opines only that forming an alliance with Russia in Syria would be a mistake because Russia wouldn't follow through against ISIS. A simple online search shows that Kramer is/was an academic and professional Russia specialist. You seem to have confused him with Mike Green the former Natinal Security Adviser when attributing advice about Putin and Russia.

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  5. Alden says:

    Know how people manage to pay those $40,000 a year tuitions for just day, not boarding private schools?

    There is a kind of educational non profit and trust that can be set up to pay the tuition. The entire payment becomes a tax deduction. So they use what would be paid in income tax for the tuition and pay nothing into the federal treasury.

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Sources, please.

    Wondering first whether you mean tax credit or tax deduction.

    Second, aren't itemized deductions "phased out" at a fairly "low" income?
    Like a little over $300,000 for a married couple filing jointly.

    Really high-income people are allowed to retain only 10-20% of the benefit of any itemized deductions, as I understand it:

    http://www.arahcpa.com/blog/higher-income-taxpayers-hit-with-exemption--itemized-deductions-phase-out/37025
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  6. Alden says:

    I stopped believing anything in the main stream press around 1966.
    I started working for a county agency that was often in the news along with a couple other local agencies.

    I had personal knowledge of many things of which the newspapers wrote. Not once did the local newspapers write the truth. In fact, even in those days the SF Bay Area papers had a hard left, anti White, anti American, pro black, pro criminal, agenda.
    I quickly realized that the newspapers hated me and mine and are the propaganda arm of the hard left anti White liberals.

    Another instance occurred in the late 1970s. There was a big down turn in the Silicon Valley Tech industry. All those men I knew who had worked there for 15 years or so were laid off because NASA was cutting back. Many became high school and community college math teachers and never went back to tech.

    But during that time the newspapers kept urging college students and unemployed adults to get programming degrees as a sure thing to good jobs.

    I realize now that the newspapers just printed press releases sent out by the tech companies. The tech companies of course wanted to vastly increase the numbers of programmers, engineers and other tech people to lower wages and increase the number of desperate applicants for each job. As Marx, Ricardo and others have pointed out, the more employees there are the lower the wages.

    I knew a few reporters as well. They don’t even check the facts. They just print each edition off press releases and the AP wires.

    I’ve always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.

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    I’ve always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.
     
    Evolutionary psychology, but also common sense, explain easily how that works.
    Hominids are social animals, and few, if any!, virtues in a society come before the ability to self-censor, and conform to whatever and whomever is prevalent at the moment.
    Detailing why these traits gave an advantage is something I tend to see as injury to somebody's intelligence, and reckon as not needed.

    Even in our days, when tribal dynamics, while still at work are less tight, I have noticed that the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly.
    Actually, I think it depresses everybody, it surely depresses me; the difference is a psychology nearer to the human standard will trick itself into forgetting the evidence for such a scenario and still live with the conform of trust in at least a part of authorities.

    The source of delusions is the lack of memory, has been written.
    It is also the source of a good amount of mental conform, therefore health.
    , @MB
    Exactly.
    You get out in the working world and get to see what is really going on and it doesn't fit the narrative. Anywhere from the multimillion dollar lesbian feminist abortion center that opened up around the corner to the coverage of the Balkan wars where my paternal grandparents immigrated from. Half truths, if not lies prevailed.
    Never had a TV when I moved out and haven't missed much.
    Drumpf has got his own problems, but the mainstream moron media's incompetency got handed to them on a plate and somehow they still think they have some credibility and standing to report on and analyze da big D.
    Well, yeah, he's a big govt. authoritarian fascist but who isn't besides Pon Raul (iow he who may not be named) on the national stage? Did we jump from the frying pan into the fire with his win remains to be seen, but fascism? Come on. Yo MMM think FDR. It's as American as apple pie.
    Nothing without the state, everything within as Mussolini said all the while the Feds are involved with who uses what bathroom and bakes whom a cake. Civil "rights" is what I think they call it.
    IOW more of the same old same old in order to justify leviathan with the MMM playing Squealer to government's Napoleon. Geo. Orwell call your lawyer, I think you have a intellectual property lawsuit that promises to be a windfall.
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  7. Biff says:

    I am the lion – hear me roar!

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  8. If you wonder why the press and media are almost monolithic in their support for statism and the ruling elites and their worldview, just look around for countless stories where media members who started digging a little too deep had their careers ruined and have had fiery car crashes, nail-gun accidents, drowning in hot-tubs that were covered, drug-overdose and drowning while fully clothed in a bath tub, etc. etc. etc.

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  9. Is that Giraldi-words really flying to Trump-team? Enlightments will be provoking instead of being bullied by mainstream media. That’s it.

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  10. The g says:

    An aspect of the Trump versus neocon (and press) faction comes from an unexpected source that is worth monitoring for the insights that it unwittingly provides.

    Alex Jones is a shill for Israel and a vehement Trump supporter; so barely worth watching except to feel which way the wind is blowing.

    In his latest rants, however, he speaks of the dangers of the corruption investigation being conducted into Netanyahu’s affairs and what a danger this represents for Israel, and also says that Trump must quash it at birth.

    Most interesting of all, he describes the anti-Netanyahu forces as “Internationalists”. These, he says, must be defeated.

    Re-interpreting his words, many of the leftist neocons are internationalists (in the Trotsky tradition) who wish to deal with Russia while they are in power and Greater Israel can come later.

    The right-wing (Netanyahu/Likudnik) faction of Zionists sees Greater Israel as a priority.

    Both fear failure. The internationalists that they won’t see such power again if public opinion is dissipated in an Iranian war; the Likudniks, that failure against Russia might abort the aim of Greater Israel using the USA.

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  11. Brabantian says: • Website

    ‘Anti-Trump’ may be kosher kabuki theatre … ‘anti-Trump’ George Soros has apparently given a quarter billion dollars to the Donald Trump family

    Jewish ‘Forward’ & ‘Real Deal’ websites, tell of US $ 250 million ‘investment’ by George Soros with Donald Trump’s son-in-law & top White House advisor, Jared Kushner, who converted Trump’s daughter to Judaism & Jewish family life

    Amusing given the Soros association with Obama, Hillary, anti-Trump protests, pro-migrants etc … Trump using Soros’ image as a face of evil in his brilliant ‘anti-globalist’ campaign commercial … yet Soros gives a quarter billion to Trump’s family

    From the Jewish ‘Forward’:
    « George Soros has been a fierce critic of President Donald Trump, denouncing him at a recent conference in Switzerland as a “would-be dictator.” But that doesn’t mean he’s above doing business with the president’s in-laws – the billionaire investor is said to have given $250 million in credit to Jared Kushner and Joshua Kushner’s real estate startup Cadre … “Soros has had a long and productive relationship with the Kushner family,” an unnamed source told the Real Deal, which broke the story on Friday. »

    http://forward.com/fast-forward/361591/soros-rips-would-be-dictator-trump-lends-money-to-his-in-laws-the-kushners/

    https://therealdeal.com/2017/01/27/george-soros-is-the-secret-financier-behind-kushner-backed-startup-cadre/

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  12. Tom Welsh says:

    My “Road to Damascus” moment came in the 1980s, when Caspar Weinberger was Secretary of Defense. I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different.

    Mr Weinberger then stated that, despite the similarity in names, the VAX 11/782 was a completely different proposition from the VAX 11/780. Comparing the two, he said, was like comparing a 16-inch naval gun with a Colt 45. I clearly remember that analogy, because that was what opened my eyes.

    At the time I was working as a field service technician for DEC, and I had quite recently installed both VAX 11/780 and VAX 11/782 systems. So I knew that the 11/782 was essentially just two 11/780s in one cabinet, with some extra circuitry to allow them to share tasks. It was a primitive multiprocessor, using a technique called Asymmetric Multiprocessing, and its absolute peak computing power was about 1.7 times that of a VAX 11/780. If poorly programmed, it could even be slower.

    As I also had a clear idea of the difference between a 16-inch naval gun and a Colt 45, I not only knew that the Secretary of Defense was lying, but that he was using the Big Lie technique. I also knew that he was lying deliberately and knowingly, because it was inconceivable that his staff had not told him the true facts.

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    thanks for sharing. this was pretty cool.
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  13. SteveM says:
    @Inque Yutani
    Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo's comments? There's more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention. Some have hooked up the Progressive juice right up to a vein and have abdicated anything recognizable as thought.

    Random person: Trump might be right on this one little thing here.
    WaPo Comment Fauna: Skreeee! Nazi! Skreee! Hitler! Skreeeee! Skreee! Tiny hands!

    Yeah, they still trot out the tiny hands thing.

    Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo’s comments? There’s more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention.

    That is true. However, the internet which is supposedly an expansive universe of diverse opinion is really just huge archipelago of ideological ghettos. Even rational argument that runs counter to a site’s theology has the originator quickly banned as a “troll” by its thought police. Constant mutual reinforcement and nothing more on both the Left and the Right. Stalin would be proud.

    As Phil Giraldi has noted, the leftist, interventionist MSM is a lapdog for the corporate and political Cronies. However the Fox alternative has never been “fair and balanced”. It has always been a tool of the Crony Right.

    The 4th Estate has completely sold out the American people. What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    It appears that Trump is getting rolled by the Neocon Militarists and the Banksters even as I post this. The Vampire Squid of cronyism appears to be invincible. For the 99%, it’s all over but the crying…

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    • Replies: @The Scalpel
    "What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. "

    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened
    , @MarkinLA
    Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    Yeah, when do you think that day will come. I am reminded of something attributed to Keynes: The market can stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent.

    How much money would you lose betting on an intelligent American populace before you made a cent?
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  14. The mainstream media talking heads want wars with Russia and Iran…

    Why do smart, knowledgeable people persist in calling corporate media “mainstream?’ It’s the mouthpiece of a small fraction of the 1%, so what’s mainstream about it?

    It’s like the guy who (justifiably) rails about how the media is nothing but propaganda and in the next breath starts yapping about Nazi propaganda completely oblivious to the fact that the bugbear of Nazi propaganda is hardly anything more than time worn, obsolete, Brit and American anti- German propaganda!

    Anyway, thanks to UR for publishing Giraldi.

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  15. Brabantian says: • Website

    There is a greatness in the ‘Trump revolution’ that will survive without Trump if necessary, even if Trump turns out to be entirely a Deep State etc sell-out & fraud … Trump’s exposé of media corruption will be an enduring achievement even if Trump himself becomes seen just as corrupt himself

    Unlike the merely ‘reformist’ false hopes of Obama, Trump gave the just-about-full truth bomb re the USA – that the 2 big political parties & the big media are a fraud, the system is rigged by globalists against common people, etc … Trump fired up the imagination of millions, & that will not go away now, that genie is out of the bottle, even if Trump himself is or always was a sell-out

    Trump will forever be one of the greatest political salesmen of US history … particularly electrifying was that moment in Trump’s 2nd debate with Hillary Clinton when Trump retorted, “Because you’d be in jail”, to her remark that it was good he was not President – I think that moment was a turning point in USA history, & not only because confronting the leading witch of corruption so directly, led to Trump winning the election

    In his best moments – however possibly deceptively – Trump has given a living, breathing model of what an anti-corruption fighting hero president would look like. That is emblazoned into people’s brains & will not go away even if in the end ‘Real Donald Trump’ is a fraud who betrays the myth.

    People are already starting to say Trump has been blackmailed … some might soon opine that a body double took Trump’s place after the inauguration … Some hope Trump is still ‘playing the fox’ to not be killed by the US Deep State, this even including Trump’s war-mongering & his orders that led to savage mass killings of Muslim women & children as in Yemen

    Hope that Trump is not in his heart Deep State, is ever more dubious each week … but the Trump myth is now bigger than Trump himself, and the Revolution in America cannot be stopped, not even by Donald Trump, who well might be so informing his Deep State blackmailers

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    Trump is still ‘playing the fox’ to not be killed by the US Deep State, this even including Trump’s war-mongering & his orders that led to savage mass killings of Muslim women & children as in Yemen
     
    OT. Have thought about this. Trump went to the arrival of the body of the fallen Seal.

    Did Trump come away from that event with revenge in his heart, or disgust for all the killing.

    One American, 17 bad guys, and over 20 non-combatants died (some of them women and children).

    Trump must know that the mission was a failure. The generals sold something that turned out badly.

    Did the raid advance peace – or have a negative effect, that ensures that more killing will happen in the future? How many more guys want to fill the shoes of the 17?

    Doesn’t the solution have to be political - not military?

    Where is our CIA – why are they not finding out who finances ISIS? Why are there NO sanctions on them? Why are there sanctions on Russia and Iran who are actually fighting ISIS?

    Answer – Jew Deep State!

    Peace --- Art
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  16. I [It] also ran a front page piece on how hundreds of U.S. based media outlets and alternative websites were Russian “useful idiots” spreading Kremlin

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  17. Agent76 says:

    January 27, 2017 The top 10 fake news stories of the last two years that were relentlessly pushed by the “fakestream media”

    All the major propaganda networks of the “Demoncrats” decided to run the same regurgitated script that originated at the WashPo rag, saying all independent and alternative news was “fake news” and that this fake news somehow cost them the election, put lives at risk, and changed the course of history. That’s the whole lie in a nutshell: the fake news calling the real news fake news, and it all backfired.

    http://www.newstarget.com/2017-01-27-top-10-fake-news-stories-of-2015-and-2016.html

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    • Replies: @Fran Macadam
    " ...relentlessly pushed by the fakestream media”

    Why that is a clever and apt description! I for one plan to be using it, in the interest of accuracy.
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  18. Professional pundits in Mainstream Media have become stricken with a weird form of glossolalia; a speaking in tongues, where the only clear and understandable words are: Hitler, fascism and sometimes, what sounds like, ruse or cruise. Of course the sachems and spin-miesters know full well they are in total error. But then they are in thrall to their handlers and their opinions are slanted more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/4-no-trump-3/

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    For once I wish the presstitutes masquerading as Einstein could riddle me this: If Drumpf is Hitler, who exactly are the Brownshirts?
    Oh, right. Reich told us the Berkleycrystallnacht was a right wing false flag affair.
    Gotta love the insufferable left wing progressive hubris. It's unsinkable.
    Like the Titanic.
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  19. It fascinates me that anyone would ever leave unquestioned a thing that comes out of mass media.

    Note the date.:

    A quarter of a million Americans buy [The New York Times] every day, and form their whole view of life from its columns. And never a day out of more than ten thousand days that this newspaper has not subtly and cunningly distorted the news of the world in the interest of special privilege.

    - UPTON SINCLAIR, THE CRIMES OF THE “TIMES” A Test of Newspaper Decency, 1921

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  20. Sherman says:

    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I’m personally grateful to Brin as I’ve owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I’ve been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change…..

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    Are you as happy for Michael Weiss (from the DailyBeast), whose intellectual mediocrity and enthusiastic servility to the "haves" have finally made this Moscow-born Jewish Russophobe all too obvious for any decent person:

    "Look at Weiss’ headlines: “Tulsi Gabbard’s Fascist Escorts to Syria”; “AD FOR HIMSELF Donald Trump Celebrates Himself, Proclaims His Inaugural Day a National One of ‘Patriotic Devotion”; “U.S. Spies Warn Trump and GOP: Russia Could Get You Next”; 2Russia’s Long History With Honey Traps—They Didn’t Start With Donald Trump” – and the list goes on and on and on and on without a whiff of proof and only the telltale smell of a killer’s propaganda pully to show (Mikhail Khodorkovsky allegedly ordered enemies murdered as Yukos Oil king).
    As for Weiss, James Carden profiled him perfectly with:
    “Given his past association with the Henry Jackson Society, in his work as an errand-boy for Christopher Hitchens and the Khodorkovsky family, and as a high profile editor/contributor at the Daily Beast and CNN, Weiss has established himself as the leading neocon propagandist of his generation.”
    The Daily Beast, CNN, Newsweek, most people don’t understand fully just how dangerous these media portals and the psychopaths representing them are. An article by Richard Silverstein with the lead; “How Daily Beast Editor, Michael Weiss Helped Send Iranian-American to Torture Chambers of Evin Prison” portrays Weiss and his rabies stricken pack are like. A final point of focus here is best illustrated in Weiss’ condemnation of the brave Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard’s trip to Syria recently, attempting to besmirch her by virtue of her guides in Syria. Weiss barks like an investigative journalist, in order to discredit Gabbard. This is in stark contrast to Weiss’ 2013 doggy style co-authoring of a The Atlantic piece with Elizabeth O’Bagy that advocated regime change in Syria. What Weiss never told anybody was that O’Bagy was a paid consultant for an NGO working to provide military weapons to the Syrian rebels and overthrow Assad, the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF)."
    http://journal-neo.org/2017/02/05/news-pooper-scooper-when-fake-news-is-just-dog-doo/
    Michael Weiss, a paragon of Presstitute.
    , @anonymous

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).
     
    RUSSIAN?? Did you say RUSSIAN? as in from Russia?

    Don't Russians hate America?
    Shouldn't they be sanctioned, banned, demonized, vilified, properly labeled as intending harm to the Amerikun people, murderers and thugs?

    or does attaching the magic charm "jew" to the identifier "Russian" change everything?

    btw, didn't American taxpayers subsidize the migration of Russian Jews to USA as well as to Israel?

    And isn't it true that many, many of those Russian "Jews" who migrated to Israel are not Jewish at all, they just responded to some "offers you can't refuse" or were crass opportunists?

    And it's undeniably true that those Russian crypto-Jews who migrated to Israel
    a. are responsible for the tech leap Israel took, saving Israel from the economic doldrums of the 1980s;
    b. really don't like being Israelis let alone Jews, refuse to speak Hebrew and consider Israeli culture a dumpster-dive, they cling to Russian-ness, sans 'Jew.' A lot of Russian crypto-Jews are leaving Israel for Berlin or back to Russia.

    , @Che Guava
    I am glad to hear of your good fnrtune in stock speculation. That doesn't make your hero and benefactor a good person by any means.

    I never use google (itself a spelling error, a mis-spelling of googol),

    There were plenty of other search engines before and at, and after, the time.

    What put Google ahead was endless support from the NYT of the time.

    I was working for a Tokyo company with an American boss (a real arsehole, likely dead now) at the time, new US person recruits would constantly tell me to use Google. Almost never did.

    For a very brief while, had to resort to it at times on obscure tech topics, but have always hated it.
    , @Wally
    It's revealing that Israeli citizen, Zionist, Sergei Brin supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Brin demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It's also revealing that we don't see Israeli citizen Brin criticizing Israel's very real WALL.

    Of course Brin loves that cheap labor he's importing into the US.

    His loyalty is to Jewish supremacist Israel, not the US.

    , @jacques sheete

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named ...

     

    Isn't that a bit redundant?

    ...who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

     

    You forgot the part where they began in someone's basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.
     
    Gee, I'm just drooling with envy. I'm sure he's a philanthropist too. (Of course.) Please tell me that no one's planning huge stone monuments to him next to "Holocaust" memorials everywhere.

    I’m personally grateful to Brin as I’ve owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I’ve been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change…..
     
    Now that's funny. No one I know who's ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public. Yuck.
    , @MarkinLA
    Google only exists because it is a massive data gathering operation for the NSA, same as for Facebook. The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.

    Whenever google led me to a site I tried to get to that site directly in other ways or through sites like E-bates or my credit card on-line shopping to get a bigger discount or a rebate. There is no way to pin a sale from me on any specific search engine.

    Russian Jewish immigration is the biggest source of American hating leftists - especially the pundit class.
    , @DaveE
    Congratulations. You seemingly know, maybe even personally, the only Jew at Google not directly connected to CIA and Mossad.

    Of course, that had nothing to do with the "success" of yet another Jewish Genius.
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  21. fitzGetty says:

    The faltering New Yorker magazine digs daily deep into the knee jerk mire of Washington Post type opinion and manipulation … sad, mendacious, supremely undignified as it seeks a leftist audience … the Liberty cover – snuffed out torch !! – is a classic of its type – fatuous and so obviously false …

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  22. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @SteveM

    Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo’s comments? There’s more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention.
     
    That is true. However, the internet which is supposedly an expansive universe of diverse opinion is really just huge archipelago of ideological ghettos. Even rational argument that runs counter to a site's theology has the originator quickly banned as a "troll" by its thought police. Constant mutual reinforcement and nothing more on both the Left and the Right. Stalin would be proud.

    As Phil Giraldi has noted, the leftist, interventionist MSM is a lapdog for the corporate and political Cronies. However the Fox alternative has never been "fair and balanced". It has always been a tool of the Crony Right.

    The 4th Estate has completely sold out the American people. What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    It appears that Trump is getting rolled by the Neocon Militarists and the Banksters even as I post this. The Vampire Squid of cronyism appears to be invincible. For the 99%, it's all over but the crying...

    “What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. ”

    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened

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    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened
     
    Appreciate the notation. But the reader base for the Unz Review and the Intercept are minuscule compared to the MSM, and even Breitbart which has its own rabid cabal of cretinous moronic commenters engaged in virtual mutual masturbation. Which illustrates my point about the ideological ghettos of the internet.

    And RT is actually a mess. Since Maidan it is a simplistic anti-Europe / USA propaganda vehicle. I.e., non-stop Europe / USA bashing recycled over and over with documentaries mostly about misery outside of Russia.

    Much of the American produced RT programming is terrible. It’s just standard propaganda from The Nation and Mother Jones with simplistic Leftist solutions to complex problems. And probably 80% of the positions they espouse run counter to Russian policies and sensibilities. Not that Crony Europe and Crony US don't deserve bashing, but RT's product suggests a Russian inferiority complex more than anything else.

    BTW, the American RT programs beat on Trump like a drum before, during and after the election. So much for RT being in the tank for Trump.

    The obvious model for comparison is the CGTV (Chinese) programming in America. CGTV actually talks about China, including challenges inside of China. Without the explicit ideological axe to grind that is so heavy handed in RT editorial programming.

    At this point, RT is an alternative, but not a very good one.

    BTW, agree. Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept should be lauded as a genuine journalist.
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  23. annamaria says:
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    Are you as happy for Michael Weiss (from the DailyBeast), whose intellectual mediocrity and enthusiastic servility to the “haves” have finally made this Moscow-born Jewish Russophobe all too obvious for any decent person:

    “Look at Weiss’ headlines: “Tulsi Gabbard’s Fascist Escorts to Syria”; “AD FOR HIMSELF Donald Trump Celebrates Himself, Proclaims His Inaugural Day a National One of ‘Patriotic Devotion”; “U.S. Spies Warn Trump and GOP: Russia Could Get You Next”; 2Russia’s Long History With Honey Traps—They Didn’t Start With Donald Trump” – and the list goes on and on and on and on without a whiff of proof and only the telltale smell of a killer’s propaganda pully to show (Mikhail Khodorkovsky allegedly ordered enemies murdered as Yukos Oil king).
    As for Weiss, James Carden profiled him perfectly with:
    “Given his past association with the Henry Jackson Society, in his work as an errand-boy for Christopher Hitchens and the Khodorkovsky family, and as a high profile editor/contributor at the Daily Beast and CNN, Weiss has established himself as the leading neocon propagandist of his generation.”
    The Daily Beast, CNN, Newsweek, most people don’t understand fully just how dangerous these media portals and the psychopaths representing them are. An article by Richard Silverstein with the lead; “How Daily Beast Editor, Michael Weiss Helped Send Iranian-American to Torture Chambers of Evin Prison” portrays Weiss and his rabies stricken pack are like. A final point of focus here is best illustrated in Weiss’ condemnation of the brave Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard’s trip to Syria recently, attempting to besmirch her by virtue of her guides in Syria. Weiss barks like an investigative journalist, in order to discredit Gabbard. This is in stark contrast to Weiss’ 2013 doggy style co-authoring of a The Atlantic piece with Elizabeth O’Bagy that advocated regime change in Syria. What Weiss never told anybody was that O’Bagy was a paid consultant for an NGO working to provide military weapons to the Syrian rebels and overthrow Assad, the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF).”

    http://journal-neo.org/2017/02/05/news-pooper-scooper-when-fake-news-is-just-dog-doo/

    Michael Weiss, a paragon of Presstitute.

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  24. Che Guava says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    It is widely known that any Jew can immigrate to Israel, yet Muslims cannot. Even those born within Israel's borders (aka the West Bank) cannot become a citizen. And no other nation on earth has built walls higher or thicker than Israel to keep out Muslims, and Christians.

    So it was bizarre to see Israel's New York Senator Chuck Schumer denounce Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven war torn Muslim nations. He even shed tears on camera! The corporate media widely reported Schumer's antics without a note of his open hypocrisy.

    It don’t think such hypocrisy to be bizarre, it is just par for the course. Not that I am saying he is not a creepy creep, the man would not be capable of a sincere tear ever.

    His fat and unpleasant daughter, Amy, is a lot worse.

    Bottle-blonde, fat, supposedly a performer, but since she decides to present herself as a comedienne, and isn’t funny, and isn’t attractive, she is supposed to play Barbie in a forthcoming Disney feature film.

    What a joke!

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    The vulgar blond with the pedestrian taste and pretense on cuteness is his niece (Amy Schumer). She is good at using the relation.
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  25. annamaria says:

    Meanwhile, the WWII is coming closer and closer. Ash Carter efforts were not in vain:
    From a comment section on Saker http://thesaker.is/high-risk-of-imminent-large-scale-military-operations-in-the-donbass/
    “High risk of imminent large scale military operations in the Donbass:”
    “…the whole thing was sort of pre arranged by the Lunatic Ash Carter to tee up a conflict for Hillary in her first weeks. He would have had the support of the feckless hack Obama of course and the goal was to lock in a new Cold War. The new Cold War would differ from the old one in that it would be on Russia’s ( and soon after China’s) frontiers, and would be modeled on the situation on the Korean Peninsula.
    The Korean model… justifies a large occupation force that is largely paid for by Korea and Japan, compels those countries to buy loads of American weapons, keeps those countries on the reservation, and makes it politically impossible for those countries to pursue an independent policy. The upside is that they are allowed the full spectrum of industries and access to American markets. Now think of the New Cold War combined with the now defunct TPP and TIPP trade deals and you are starting to get an idea of what the imperial strategy is.
    …Putin has been demonized to the extent that he is often compared to Kim in the corporate media these days. Xi is also demonized. Whenever these countries do anything it is met with a hysterical propaganda barrage; like when China sailed its carrier from the north to the south of the country. Think of all the deals Kerry set up that ended in duplicity, the lying, the fear mongering and the militarization, along with the police state at home and the denouncement of all moderates as traitors and you get a rough idea of what the empire had in store.
    …And that’s why forcing Ukraine to attack is the only viable gambit they have. It’s pure evil to start this war, but then so is the empire. Watch what NATO HQ is doing right now.”
    Where are the pink-hat feminists and other alleged defenders of human rights when we need them?

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  26. fnn says:

    Left-wing pro-Trump French intellectual:

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article195196.html

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    thank you fnn
    this article at voltairenet was excellent- quite revealing- a relief from the noise we have from the American media distortion machine
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  27. annamaria says:

    More from the comment section on Saker:
    “So Kiev is ready to be used as the bartering ram against Donbas in order to draw in Russia
    We have been here before which is sad. The 120,000 troops being used by the oligarch CIA and the EU.”

    http://thesaker.is/high-risk-of-imminent-large-scale-military-operations-in-the-donbass/

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  28. wow says:

    They have failed to crush Trump, he’s too formidable.

    So, now they’ve moved on to Bannon…using the Alinsky principle to isolate a target and stay on that target ad nauseum!

    It’s so transparent , it’s laughable. The MSM is dead…laughably dead, and they committed suicide!

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  29. annamaria says:

    The presstitutes of all ranks stand up in anticipation of reports on “Russian aggression” in case RF starts defending the civilian population of Donbass from the US-armed neo-Nazis. What a bitter irony!

    http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2017/02/us-nato-war-continues-to-creeps-east.html

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  30. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    RUSSIAN?? Did you say RUSSIAN? as in from Russia?

    Don’t Russians hate America?
    Shouldn’t they be sanctioned, banned, demonized, vilified, properly labeled as intending harm to the Amerikun people, murderers and thugs?

    or does attaching the magic charm “jew” to the identifier “Russian” change everything?

    btw, didn’t American taxpayers subsidize the migration of Russian Jews to USA as well as to Israel?

    And isn’t it true that many, many of those Russian “Jews” who migrated to Israel are not Jewish at all, they just responded to some “offers you can’t refuse” or were crass opportunists?

    And it’s undeniably true that those Russian crypto-Jews who migrated to Israel
    a. are responsible for the tech leap Israel took, saving Israel from the economic doldrums of the 1980s;
    b. really don’t like being Israelis let alone Jews, refuse to speak Hebrew and consider Israeli culture a dumpster-dive, they cling to Russian-ness, sans ‘Jew.’ A lot of Russian crypto-Jews are leaving Israel for Berlin or back to Russia.

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    "Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security"
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs

    and:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
    and:
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY
    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf
    and:
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses
    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014
    and:
    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media
    and:
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook
    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers "loan" that 'Israel' receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously "forgives" all these huge debts. As if it wasn't assumed at the beginning.

    Let's not mention the vast sums they receive from 'Homeland Security to do much of the spying.

    "Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country."
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo
    and:
    "Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA"
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg
    and:
    "IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology"
    Read more:http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/08/idf-unit-8200-cyberwar-veterans-developed-nsa-snooping-technology/
    , @Alden
    I read Jewish publications as they are everywhere in my neighborhood. There have been a lot of articles revealing that the Israeli/ Russian "Jews" only live in Russia during the winter and send their children to boarding schools in Europe so as to escape Israeli indoctrination.
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  31. annamaria says:
    @Che Guava
    It don't think such hypocrisy to be bizarre, it is just par for the course. Not that I am saying he is not a creepy creep, the man would not be capable of a sincere tear ever.

    His fat and unpleasant daughter, Amy, is a lot worse.

    Bottle-blonde, fat, supposedly a performer, but since she decides to present herself as a comedienne, and isn't funny, and isn't attractive, she is supposed to play Barbie in a forthcoming Disney feature film.

    What a joke!

    The vulgar blond with the pedestrian taste and pretense on cuteness is his niece (Amy Schumer). She is good at using the relation.

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    Thanks, annamaria,

    I knew they were related (facial similarity). Funny how US media generally doesn't report it.
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  32. Che Guava says:
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    I am glad to hear of your good fnrtune in stock speculation. That doesn’t make your hero and benefactor a good person by any means.

    I never use google (itself a spelling error, a mis-spelling of googol),

    There were plenty of other search engines before and at, and after, the time.

    What put Google ahead was endless support from the NYT of the time.

    I was working for a Tokyo company with an American boss (a real arsehole, likely dead now) at the time, new US person recruits would constantly tell me to use Google. Almost never did.

    For a very brief while, had to resort to it at times on obscure tech topics, but have always hated it.

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  33. SteveM says:
    @The Scalpel
    "What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. "

    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened

    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened

    Appreciate the notation. But the reader base for the Unz Review and the Intercept are minuscule compared to the MSM, and even Breitbart which has its own rabid cabal of cretinous moronic commenters engaged in virtual mutual masturbation. Which illustrates my point about the ideological ghettos of the internet.

    And RT is actually a mess. Since Maidan it is a simplistic anti-Europe / USA propaganda vehicle. I.e., non-stop Europe / USA bashing recycled over and over with documentaries mostly about misery outside of Russia.

    Much of the American produced RT programming is terrible. It’s just standard propaganda from The Nation and Mother Jones with simplistic Leftist solutions to complex problems. And probably 80% of the positions they espouse run counter to Russian policies and sensibilities. Not that Crony Europe and Crony US don’t deserve bashing, but RT’s product suggests a Russian inferiority complex more than anything else.

    BTW, the American RT programs beat on Trump like a drum before, during and after the election. So much for RT being in the tank for Trump.

    The obvious model for comparison is the CGTV (Chinese) programming in America. CGTV actually talks about China, including challenges inside of China. Without the explicit ideological axe to grind that is so heavy handed in RT editorial programming.

    At this point, RT is an alternative, but not a very good one.

    BTW, agree. Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept should be lauded as a genuine journalist.

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    RT is certainly superior to the lying press of most EU nations and major outlets in the USA.
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  34. annamaria says:

    Only on alternative sites:
    “From Somalia to Yemen to Nigeria to the Levant to Afghanistan and Pakistan, to Chechnya to Xinjiang, China and even raising its head among the populations of western countries, both Muslim and non-Muslim are facing the ravages of the Salafi/Takfiri Nexus of Jihad” http://cluborlov.blogspot.com
    “Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism:” http://www.newstatesman.com/world-affairs/2014/11/wahhabism-isis-how-saudi-arabia-exported-main-source-global-terrorism
    “The Saudis are finding Clinton 2016…” http://truthfeed.com/saudis-are-funding-hillary-clinton-2016-with-911-blood-money/3084/

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  35. Lit Dog says:

    Another of Phil’s excellent articles, and chock full of facts that one certainly doesn’t get in the fake news of WaPo itself.

    Not really a criticism, but I couldn’t quite buy into Phil’s satirical flow re WaPo’s humor. Hiatt comes across as a humorless hypocrite for whom truth is whatever benefits his tribal interests.

    This may be the pot calling kettle black, but for those interested in a different satirical approach, I utilize the unreliable narrator technique in a piece about the Super Bowl:

    wwwDukeDougherty.com

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    I was being sarcastic about his sense of humor - you are correct in that he has none!
    , @SteveM

    Another of Phil’s excellent articles, and chock full of facts that one certainly doesn’t get in the fake news of WaPo itself.
     
    Agree. The most egregious "Fake News" is the news of omission. E.g., one-sided arguments by the WaBezos for massive H-1B immigration even though a mountain of evidence exists that documents its abuse.

    BTW, the WaBezos Fake News arm and its editorial content are now obviously generated by direction from Seattle. The Giant Amazon Vampire Squid has also wrecked the once interesting Business Insider.

    More journalistic carnage to follow as the rapacious Silicon Valley Crony Leviathan swallows up or corrupts every last vestige of honest journalism.

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  36. @Lit Dog
    Another of Phil’s excellent articles, and chock full of facts that one certainly doesn’t get in the fake news of WaPo itself.

    Not really a criticism, but I couldn’t quite buy into Phil’s satirical flow re WaPo’s humor. Hiatt comes across as a humorless hypocrite for whom truth is whatever benefits his tribal interests.

    This may be the pot calling kettle black, but for those interested in a different satirical approach, I utilize the unreliable narrator technique in a piece about the Super Bowl:

    wwwDukeDougherty.com

    I was being sarcastic about his sense of humor – you are correct in that he has none!

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  37. Wally says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    It is widely known that any Jew can immigrate to Israel, yet Muslims cannot. Even those born within Israel's borders (aka the West Bank) cannot become a citizen. And no other nation on earth has built walls higher or thicker than Israel to keep out Muslims, and Christians.

    So it was bizarre to see Israel's New York Senator Chuck Schumer denounce Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven war torn Muslim nations. He even shed tears on camera! The corporate media widely reported Schumer's antics without a note of his open hypocrisy.

    Indeed.

    It’s revealing that ‘the media’ supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while that same ‘media’ demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It’s also revealing that we don’t see ‘the media’ criticizing Israel’s very real WALL.

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  38. SteveM says:
    @Lit Dog
    Another of Phil’s excellent articles, and chock full of facts that one certainly doesn’t get in the fake news of WaPo itself.

    Not really a criticism, but I couldn’t quite buy into Phil’s satirical flow re WaPo’s humor. Hiatt comes across as a humorless hypocrite for whom truth is whatever benefits his tribal interests.

    This may be the pot calling kettle black, but for those interested in a different satirical approach, I utilize the unreliable narrator technique in a piece about the Super Bowl:

    wwwDukeDougherty.com

    Another of Phil’s excellent articles, and chock full of facts that one certainly doesn’t get in the fake news of WaPo itself.

    Agree. The most egregious “Fake News” is the news of omission. E.g., one-sided arguments by the WaBezos for massive H-1B immigration even though a mountain of evidence exists that documents its abuse.

    BTW, the WaBezos Fake News arm and its editorial content are now obviously generated by direction from Seattle. The Giant Amazon Vampire Squid has also wrecked the once interesting Business Insider.

    More journalistic carnage to follow as the rapacious Silicon Valley Crony Leviathan swallows up or corrupts every last vestige of honest journalism.

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  39. Wally says: • Website
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    It’s revealing that Israeli citizen, Zionist, Sergei Brin supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Brin demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It’s also revealing that we don’t see Israeli citizen Brin criticizing Israel’s very real WALL.

    Of course Brin loves that cheap labor he’s importing into the US.

    His loyalty is to Jewish supremacist Israel, not the US.

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    The idea that Sergei Brin is an Israel citizen is bullshit. He's never lived in Israel, and Israel doesn't just grant citizenship to any Jew who feels like it. You have to emigrate there. He left the USSR in 1979 and settled here in the United States.

    Provide proof for your assertion or withdraw it. Be a man.

    Brin has made no public statements on Israel's Law of Return, nor has he "demanded massive 3rd world immigration." I think you're either bullshitting again or just assume that Brin believes this because he's a JOOOOOOOOO.

    And the OP says NOTHING about immigration at all. Why insert your hateful garbage into every thread?
    , @Sherman
    Hi Wally

    Brin could crush you like the filthy cockroach you are.

    Best regards,

    Sherm
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  40. Wally says:
    @anonymous

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).
     
    RUSSIAN?? Did you say RUSSIAN? as in from Russia?

    Don't Russians hate America?
    Shouldn't they be sanctioned, banned, demonized, vilified, properly labeled as intending harm to the Amerikun people, murderers and thugs?

    or does attaching the magic charm "jew" to the identifier "Russian" change everything?

    btw, didn't American taxpayers subsidize the migration of Russian Jews to USA as well as to Israel?

    And isn't it true that many, many of those Russian "Jews" who migrated to Israel are not Jewish at all, they just responded to some "offers you can't refuse" or were crass opportunists?

    And it's undeniably true that those Russian crypto-Jews who migrated to Israel
    a. are responsible for the tech leap Israel took, saving Israel from the economic doldrums of the 1980s;
    b. really don't like being Israelis let alone Jews, refuse to speak Hebrew and consider Israeli culture a dumpster-dive, they cling to Russian-ness, sans 'Jew.' A lot of Russian crypto-Jews are leaving Israel for Berlin or back to Russia.

    “Jewish groups get up to 97% of grants from the Homeland Security”

    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/07/islamophobia-shmislamophobia-97-of-homeland-security-security-grants-go-to-jewish-orgs

    and:
    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189

    and:
    The Zionist attempt to control language.
    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY

    https://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/sf-israel-projects-2009-global-language-dictionary.pdf

    and:
    The commander behind the pro-Israel student troops on U.S. college campuses

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page//.premium-1.709014

    and:
    Israel tech site paying “interns” to covertly plant stories in social media

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/israel-tech-site-paying-interns-covertly-plant-stories-social-media

    and:
    Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

    http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-students-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook

    Not to mention that every US taxpayers “loan” that ‘Israel’ receives has never been paid back. The Israeli Occupied Congress curiously “forgives” all these huge debts. As if it wasn’t assumed at the beginning.

    Let’s not mention the vast sums they receive from ‘Homeland Security to do much of the spying.

    “Jame Bamford of Wired subsequently reported that the NSA had hired secretive contractors with extensive ties to Israeli intelligence to establish 10 to 20 wiretapping rooms at key telecommunication points throughout the country.”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-impact-of-nsa-domestic-spying-2013-6#ixzz3NxPMujNo
    and:
    “Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA”
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/israelis-bugged-the-us-for-the-nsa-2013-6#ixzz3NxPnnUFg
    and:
    “IDF Unit 8200 Cyberwar Veterans Developed NSA Snooping Technology”
    Read more:http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/06/08/idf-unit-8200-cyberwar-veterans-developed-nsa-snooping-technology/

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  41. Forbes says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    It is widely known that any Jew can immigrate to Israel, yet Muslims cannot. Even those born within Israel's borders (aka the West Bank) cannot become a citizen. And no other nation on earth has built walls higher or thicker than Israel to keep out Muslims, and Christians.

    So it was bizarre to see Israel's New York Senator Chuck Schumer denounce Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven war torn Muslim nations. He even shed tears on camera! The corporate media widely reported Schumer's antics without a note of his open hypocrisy.

    On Schumer’s wall/ban hypocrisy: It all depends whose ox is being gored. Expecting consistency from folks with dual allegiances is like expecting the bi-polar to be single-minded.

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  42. @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named …

    Isn’t that a bit redundant?

    …who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    You forgot the part where they began in someone’s basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy. I’m sure he’s a philanthropist too. (Of course.) Please tell me that no one’s planning huge stone monuments to him next to “Holocaust” memorials everywhere.

    I’m personally grateful to Brin as I’ve owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I’ve been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change…..

    Now that’s funny. No one I know who’s ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public. Yuck.

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    Isn’t that a bit redundant?
     
    Yes, all jews are brilliant. Compared to you.

    You forgot the part where they began in someone’s basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?
     
    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.

    The Economist referred to Brin as an "Enlightenment Man", and as someone who believes that "knowledge is always good, and certainly always better than ignorance", a philosophy that is summed up by Google's mission statement, "Organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful,"

    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.
     

    Yes, you are. Yuck.

    Now that’s funny. No one I know who’s ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public.
     

    What's funny? Sherm wasn't crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.
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  43. Alden says:
    @anonymous

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).
     
    RUSSIAN?? Did you say RUSSIAN? as in from Russia?

    Don't Russians hate America?
    Shouldn't they be sanctioned, banned, demonized, vilified, properly labeled as intending harm to the Amerikun people, murderers and thugs?

    or does attaching the magic charm "jew" to the identifier "Russian" change everything?

    btw, didn't American taxpayers subsidize the migration of Russian Jews to USA as well as to Israel?

    And isn't it true that many, many of those Russian "Jews" who migrated to Israel are not Jewish at all, they just responded to some "offers you can't refuse" or were crass opportunists?

    And it's undeniably true that those Russian crypto-Jews who migrated to Israel
    a. are responsible for the tech leap Israel took, saving Israel from the economic doldrums of the 1980s;
    b. really don't like being Israelis let alone Jews, refuse to speak Hebrew and consider Israeli culture a dumpster-dive, they cling to Russian-ness, sans 'Jew.' A lot of Russian crypto-Jews are leaving Israel for Berlin or back to Russia.

    I read Jewish publications as they are everywhere in my neighborhood. There have been a lot of articles revealing that the Israeli/ Russian “Jews” only live in Russia during the winter and send their children to boarding schools in Europe so as to escape Israeli indoctrination.

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  44. Forbes says:

    The mainstream media talking heads want wars with Russia and Iran as well has heavy-handed intervention in Syria

    In light of the outcome of the interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, you’d think advocates of such further interventions (Russia, Iran, Syria) would know better. But you’d be mistaken. Sad.

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    advocates of such further interventions (Russia, Iran, Syria) would know better.
     
    Intervention in Russia may result in physical annihilation of the United States. Even neocon morons kinda get it, despite them being overwhelmingly incompetent, to put it mildly, in any issue related to military and war.
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  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    It's revealing that Israeli citizen, Zionist, Sergei Brin supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Brin demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It's also revealing that we don't see Israeli citizen Brin criticizing Israel's very real WALL.

    Of course Brin loves that cheap labor he's importing into the US.

    His loyalty is to Jewish supremacist Israel, not the US.

    The idea that Sergei Brin is an Israel citizen is bullshit. He’s never lived in Israel, and Israel doesn’t just grant citizenship to any Jew who feels like it. You have to emigrate there. He left the USSR in 1979 and settled here in the United States.

    Provide proof for your assertion or withdraw it. Be a man.

    Brin has made no public statements on Israel’s Law of Return, nor has he “demanded massive 3rd world immigration.” I think you’re either bullshitting again or just assume that Brin believes this because he’s a JOOOOOOOOO.

    And the OP says NOTHING about immigration at all. Why insert your hateful garbage into every thread?

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    You're right, dual citizenship and eligibility for dual citizenship are not one and the same. I am eligible for citizenship in the Republic of Ireland but I'm not about to take them up on the offer.
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  46. Sherman says:
    @Wally
    It's revealing that Israeli citizen, Zionist, Sergei Brin supports Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while Brin demands massive 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    It's also revealing that we don't see Israeli citizen Brin criticizing Israel's very real WALL.

    Of course Brin loves that cheap labor he's importing into the US.

    His loyalty is to Jewish supremacist Israel, not the US.

    Hi Wally

    Brin could crush you like the filthy cockroach you are.

    Best regards,

    Sherm

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  47. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Forbes

    The mainstream media talking heads want wars with Russia and Iran as well has heavy-handed intervention in Syria
     
    In light of the outcome of the interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya, you'd think advocates of such further interventions (Russia, Iran, Syria) would know better. But you'd be mistaken. Sad.

    advocates of such further interventions (Russia, Iran, Syria) would know better.

    Intervention in Russia may result in physical annihilation of the United States. Even neocon morons kinda get it, despite them being overwhelmingly incompetent, to put it mildly, in any issue related to military and war.

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  48. annamaria says:

    The hapless Reich is in full armor to fight the “undemocratic” and “despotic” Trump: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/these_are_the_last_bastions_of_resistance_to_donald_trump_20170207
    Well, Mr. Reich, how are your personal relationships with John Yoo, torture lawyers and you colleague at Berkeley? Cordial? Of course: https://theintercept.com/2017/02/06/john-yoo-thinks-presidents-can-legally-torture-children-even-he-has-grave-concerns-about-donald-trump/ Never mind the Eighth Amendment (Amendment VIII). There are “our” violations of the US Constitution (Obama’s extrajudicial killings, torture, black sites, various kinds of support for terrorist organizations in Syria [Al Qaeda] and Ukraine [neo-Nazis], including weaponry and training) and “their” violations (like re-establishing the regulations for legal immigration.) BTW, Obama has deported the greatest number of illegals from the US.

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  49. @Alden
    I stopped believing anything in the main stream press around 1966.
    I started working for a county agency that was often in the news along with a couple other local agencies.

    I had personal knowledge of many things of which the newspapers wrote. Not once did the local newspapers write the truth. In fact, even in those days the SF Bay Area papers had a hard left, anti White, anti American, pro black, pro criminal, agenda.
    I quickly realized that the newspapers hated me and mine and are the propaganda arm of the hard left anti White liberals.

    Another instance occurred in the late 1970s. There was a big down turn in the Silicon Valley Tech industry. All those men I knew who had worked there for 15 years or so were laid off because NASA was cutting back. Many became high school and community college math teachers and never went back to tech.

    But during that time the newspapers kept urging college students and unemployed adults to get programming degrees as a sure thing to good jobs.

    I realize now that the newspapers just printed press releases sent out by the tech companies. The tech companies of course wanted to vastly increase the numbers of programmers, engineers and other tech people to lower wages and increase the number of desperate applicants for each job. As Marx, Ricardo and others have pointed out, the more employees there are the lower the wages.

    I knew a few reporters as well. They don't even check the facts. They just print each edition off press releases and the AP wires.

    I've always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.

    I’ve always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.

    Evolutionary psychology, but also common sense, explain easily how that works.
    Hominids are social animals, and few, if any!, virtues in a society come before the ability to self-censor, and conform to whatever and whomever is prevalent at the moment.
    Detailing why these traits gave an advantage is something I tend to see as injury to somebody’s intelligence, and reckon as not needed.

    Even in our days, when tribal dynamics, while still at work are less tight, I have noticed that the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly.
    Actually, I think it depresses everybody, it surely depresses me; the difference is a psychology nearer to the human standard will trick itself into forgetting the evidence for such a scenario and still live with the conform of trust in at least a part of authorities.

    The source of delusions is the lack of memory, has been written.
    It is also the source of a good amount of mental conform, therefore health.

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    the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly

    The question is not whether there is no authority worthy of trust, the question is why people continue trusting certain authorities when any thoughtful examination would show that they do not deserve that trust.

    Otherwise an excellent comment on your part.
    , @jacques sheete

    Actually, I think it depresses everybody...
     
    It doesn't depress me, it liberates me. But then, I'm a nobody. (And that liberates me as well!)
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  50. chris says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    ABC Australia did a hit-piece on Trump last night on its 4 Corners show. News becomes pure comedy when you introduce an "expert" as being a former NSC adviser to GW Bush, like that's something anyone would want on their CV. First he says Trump is likely to be reckless when it comes to pushing the big, red button BUT then he goes on to say what a mistake it would be for Trump to forge better relations with Putin. WTF! Does anyone else see the illogic of that?

    The whole show was cringeworthy and was only worth watching to see actual history happening as a once respected national and international brand destroys the very trust that took years to build and then in a much less crowded market.

    you mean that evil Putin is now amassing troops on Australia’s border as well ?

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  51. Agent76 says:

    Feb 6, 2017 Why The Left vs Right Paradigm is the Perfect Distraction from Trump

    In this video, Rachel Blevins breaks down the ways the disillusioned left vs. right paradigm is serving as a distraction when it comes to President Trump’s Travel Ban.

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  52. iffen says:
    @Madhava reader

    I’ve always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.
     
    Evolutionary psychology, but also common sense, explain easily how that works.
    Hominids are social animals, and few, if any!, virtues in a society come before the ability to self-censor, and conform to whatever and whomever is prevalent at the moment.
    Detailing why these traits gave an advantage is something I tend to see as injury to somebody's intelligence, and reckon as not needed.

    Even in our days, when tribal dynamics, while still at work are less tight, I have noticed that the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly.
    Actually, I think it depresses everybody, it surely depresses me; the difference is a psychology nearer to the human standard will trick itself into forgetting the evidence for such a scenario and still live with the conform of trust in at least a part of authorities.

    The source of delusions is the lack of memory, has been written.
    It is also the source of a good amount of mental conform, therefore health.

    the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly

    The question is not whether there is no authority worthy of trust, the question is why people continue trusting certain authorities when any thoughtful examination would show that they do not deserve that trust.

    Otherwise an excellent comment on your part.

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  53. “I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different.”

    I was a regional VP for the military-industrial Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA) during the Cold War. We were told that we had prevented export of this technology to the USSR. As some know, the backbone operating system of the internet and multiuser systems since the late sixties has been various versions of UNIX – the ubiquitous Linux operating system is a derivative.

    Well, when the Soviet ended and society there was in economic freefall, we hired Russian programmers. They already had their own VAX clones emulated using their own technology and were expert Unix programmers, better than most of our own. They had had this technology all along. I even had the thrill of logging onto “kremVAX” in Moscow, via modem.

    And DEC (Digital Equipment) lost the battle, being destroyed by Compaq and then the abysmal Carly Fiorina, more interested in offshoring jobs than shoring up advanced technology. The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

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    They had had this technology all along.
     
    It is very difficult to convince very many US military "analysts" (most of whom are not real "analysts") that USSR, actually, was leading a development of Precision Guided Munitions in very many important aspects. Those PGMs also were widely used in Afghanistan as early as 1980-81, from TV to laser-guided weapons. But then again, USSR also made a guided missile a national weapon of choice with all signal processing which came with the territory as early as mid-1950s. But who cares, as long as there are (numerous I may say) Tom Clancys around to explain that PGMs, among many other things, are American invention (in reality, German with them sinking Battleship Roma using radio controlled bomb in 1943), all kinds of myths could be developed. Those myths are very dangerous, because they soften criteria for doing stupid things militarily. This almost happened prior to Trump's elections and we are not out of the woods yet.
    , @Alden
    I remember hearing a little bit about the decline of HP from people who worked there.
    But because Fiorina was a woman she was the hero of the media. But she took jobs away from the White men who created Silicon Valley and gave those jobs to non White men so she obeyed TPTB that gave her the job.
    I was so glad her presidential campaign went nowhere
    , @MarkinLA
    The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

    She came from the marketing wing of HP. If Hewlett or Packard had been around they would have never had somebody that ignorant of technology running their company.
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  54. @Agent76
    January 27, 2017 The top 10 fake news stories of the last two years that were relentlessly pushed by the “fakestream media”

    All the major propaganda networks of the “Demoncrats” decided to run the same regurgitated script that originated at the WashPo rag, saying all independent and alternative news was “fake news” and that this fake news somehow cost them the election, put lives at risk, and changed the course of history. That’s the whole lie in a nutshell: the fake news calling the real news fake news, and it all backfired.

    http://www.newstarget.com/2017-01-27-top-10-fake-news-stories-of-2015-and-2016.html

    ” …relentlessly pushed by the fakestream media”

    Why that is a clever and apt description! I for one plan to be using it, in the interest of accuracy.

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    Thanks Fran Macadam and please do!
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  55. MB says: • Website
    @Alden
    I stopped believing anything in the main stream press around 1966.
    I started working for a county agency that was often in the news along with a couple other local agencies.

    I had personal knowledge of many things of which the newspapers wrote. Not once did the local newspapers write the truth. In fact, even in those days the SF Bay Area papers had a hard left, anti White, anti American, pro black, pro criminal, agenda.
    I quickly realized that the newspapers hated me and mine and are the propaganda arm of the hard left anti White liberals.

    Another instance occurred in the late 1970s. There was a big down turn in the Silicon Valley Tech industry. All those men I knew who had worked there for 15 years or so were laid off because NASA was cutting back. Many became high school and community college math teachers and never went back to tech.

    But during that time the newspapers kept urging college students and unemployed adults to get programming degrees as a sure thing to good jobs.

    I realize now that the newspapers just printed press releases sent out by the tech companies. The tech companies of course wanted to vastly increase the numbers of programmers, engineers and other tech people to lower wages and increase the number of desperate applicants for each job. As Marx, Ricardo and others have pointed out, the more employees there are the lower the wages.

    I knew a few reporters as well. They don't even check the facts. They just print each edition off press releases and the AP wires.

    I've always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.

    Exactly.
    You get out in the working world and get to see what is really going on and it doesn’t fit the narrative. Anywhere from the multimillion dollar lesbian feminist abortion center that opened up around the corner to the coverage of the Balkan wars where my paternal grandparents immigrated from. Half truths, if not lies prevailed.
    Never had a TV when I moved out and haven’t missed much.
    Drumpf has got his own problems, but the mainstream moron media’s incompetency got handed to them on a plate and somehow they still think they have some credibility and standing to report on and analyze da big D.
    Well, yeah, he’s a big govt. authoritarian fascist but who isn’t besides Pon Raul (iow he who may not be named) on the national stage? Did we jump from the frying pan into the fire with his win remains to be seen, but fascism? Come on. Yo MMM think FDR. It’s as American as apple pie.
    Nothing without the state, everything within as Mussolini said all the while the Feds are involved with who uses what bathroom and bakes whom a cake. Civil “rights” is what I think they call it.
    IOW more of the same old same old in order to justify leviathan with the MMM playing Squealer to government’s Napoleon. Geo. Orwell call your lawyer, I think you have a intellectual property lawsuit that promises to be a windfall.

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    Cry about Trump all you want but every time you are are pissed, just click you heals together three time and repeat "Supreme Court", 'Supreme Court", "Supreme Court" and you will be back in Kansas.
    , @Alden
    MMM, moron mainstream media, I love it. I remember the Serbia/ Bosnia war. Since Clinton and the MMM favored the Muslim Bosnians and bombed the Serbians, I just assumed the Serbians were the good guys and the Bosnians the bad guys.

    Turns out, the Serbians were in the right and the Bosnians in the wrong. I didn't have to do any research. I just assume every word in the MMM is a lie and the opposite is true.

    It's worked for more than 50 years.
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  56. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jacques sheete

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named ...

     

    Isn't that a bit redundant?

    ...who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

     

    You forgot the part where they began in someone's basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.
     
    Gee, I'm just drooling with envy. I'm sure he's a philanthropist too. (Of course.) Please tell me that no one's planning huge stone monuments to him next to "Holocaust" memorials everywhere.

    I’m personally grateful to Brin as I’ve owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I’ve been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change…..
     
    Now that's funny. No one I know who's ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public. Yuck.

    Isn’t that a bit redundant?

    Yes, all jews are brilliant. Compared to you.

    You forgot the part where they began in someone’s basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?

    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.

    The Economist referred to Brin as an “Enlightenment Man”, and as someone who believes that “knowledge is always good, and certainly always better than ignorance”, a philosophy that is summed up by Google’s mission statement, “Organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful,”

    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.

    Yes, you are. Yuck.

    Now that’s funny. No one I know who’s ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public.

    What’s funny? Sherm wasn’t crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.

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    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.
     
    It wasn't humor it was satire. Yours falls flat whatever it is.


    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.
     
    Yes, you are. Yuck.
     
    You don't know JS.

    What’s funny? Sherm wasn’t crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.
     
    Does Sherm need you to speak for it? Maybe you should be concerned about your own mental and financial poverty. It may even make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter. It may even make you a bit more original.

    Now, go take a hike.

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  57. MB says: • Website
    @Robert Magill
    Professional pundits in Mainstream Media have become stricken with a weird form of glossolalia; a speaking in tongues, where the only clear and understandable words are: Hitler, fascism and sometimes, what sounds like, ruse or cruise. Of course the sachems and spin-miesters know full well they are in total error. But then they are in thrall to their handlers and their opinions are slanted more https://robertmagill.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/4-no-trump-3/

    For once I wish the presstitutes masquerading as Einstein could riddle me this: If Drumpf is Hitler, who exactly are the Brownshirts?
    Oh, right. Reich told us the Berkleycrystallnacht was a right wing false flag affair.
    Gotta love the insufferable left wing progressive hubris. It’s unsinkable.
    Like the Titanic.

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    Given all the evil dictators who "were Hitler" but who really weren't Hitler, aren't the Einstein presstitutes and the people who write their bullet points revealing a bit too much about who Hitler really was?

    Just as Sherm can't stop himself from gloating over making someone else the freier, so the oligarchs can't restrain themselves from punching arms and sniggering over 85 years of convincing the entire world that Hitler was Hitler.

    Which, ironically, proves that oligarchs do have hearts -- Telltale Hearts.

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  58. @Madhava reader

    I’ve always been amazed that people believe anything in the newspapers. 5 year olds question Santa and the Easter Bunny more that the useful idiots question the MSM.
     
    Evolutionary psychology, but also common sense, explain easily how that works.
    Hominids are social animals, and few, if any!, virtues in a society come before the ability to self-censor, and conform to whatever and whomever is prevalent at the moment.
    Detailing why these traits gave an advantage is something I tend to see as injury to somebody's intelligence, and reckon as not needed.

    Even in our days, when tribal dynamics, while still at work are less tight, I have noticed that the bleak scenario in which no authority is worthy of being trusted depresses normal people badly.
    Actually, I think it depresses everybody, it surely depresses me; the difference is a psychology nearer to the human standard will trick itself into forgetting the evidence for such a scenario and still live with the conform of trust in at least a part of authorities.

    The source of delusions is the lack of memory, has been written.
    It is also the source of a good amount of mental conform, therefore health.

    Actually, I think it depresses everybody…

    It doesn’t depress me, it liberates me. But then, I’m a nobody. (And that liberates me as well!)

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  59. @Anon

    Isn’t that a bit redundant?
     
    Yes, all jews are brilliant. Compared to you.

    You forgot the part where they began in someone’s basement in a ghetto on pocket change after suffering near starvation while avoiding Nazis on a foot journey through Eastern and Western Europe before coming to the US in stowage. Horatio Alger lives?
     
    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.

    The Economist referred to Brin as an "Enlightenment Man", and as someone who believes that "knowledge is always good, and certainly always better than ignorance", a philosophy that is summed up by Google's mission statement, "Organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful,"

    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.
     

    Yes, you are. Yuck.

    Now that’s funny. No one I know who’s ever done anything like that needs to crow about it in public.
     

    What's funny? Sherm wasn't crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.

    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.

    It wasn’t humor it was satire. Yours falls flat whatever it is.

    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.

    Yes, you are. Yuck.

    You don’t know JS.

    What’s funny? Sherm wasn’t crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.

    Does Sherm need you to speak for it? Maybe you should be concerned about your own mental and financial poverty. It may even make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter. It may even make you a bit more original.

    Now, go take a hike.

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    It wasn’t humor it was satire
     
    Satire and humor do not stand in opposition to each other but as rungs on the same ladder -Jacob 's ladder, satire assuredly lower. Had the Almighty smiled more benevolently upon you, humor might have graced your pen instead of the bitterness you mistake for satire.

    You don’t know JS.
     
    Yes I do. You're an idiot.

    It may even make you a bit more original.

    Now, go take a hike.
     

    lol. Said the man who simply copied and pasted a portion of my reply. Speaking of hikes, you need them more than I do. Bitter old idiots etc.......
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  60. annamaria says:

    Real journalism. Antithesis to the MSM presstituting: http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-n-nuclear-weapon-ban-may-be-last-exit-before-extreme-tolls-for-humanity/5573347
    “Makers of nuclear bombs in the 1940s and today exploit a unique chemical property of billion-years old uranium—found in ores located beneath the Earth’s skin—to initiate a ‘runaway chain reaction’ that allows for a scale of destruction from nuclear energy release capable of destroying anything; not just the biggest cities, but entire planets, suns, even solar systems; all can be obliterated if enough of this uranium—and its man-made cousin, plutonium—is collected and assembled into a bomb.
    Despite efforts by lunatic scientists like Edward Teller to create a ‘clean’ or fallout-less bomb, nuclear weapons retain and will always retain the qualities of biological weapons. Why? The same chemical process that allows for big nuclear explosions creates, and inexorably spews, radioactive elements and energies at levels that will prevent life from thriving. Days ago, operators of the Fukushima Daiichi complex, the site of three nuclear reactor meltdowns in 2011, estimated radiation levels in the Unit 2 reactor of more than 50,000 Rems (500 Sieverts) per hour near a hole that formed from radioactive lava-like nuclear fuel burning through the reactor containment. The radioactive levels were obscenely high; exposure to 500 Rems in 60 minutes is enough radiation to kill one in two people. Hydrogen nuclear bombs used in war would spew and disperse large amounts of similar radioactivity across the Earth, creating lethal hotspots and severely contaminating food supplies across the globe.”

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    In a full thermonuclear bombardment complete with retaliation, radiation would not be the most immediate problem. Incineration of cities and the resulting massive firestorms would cast hundreds or millions of tons of smoke into the atmosphere, rapidly enshrouding the earth in a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight. Temperatures would drop below freezing for many years, killing most vegetation and making food production impossible. The bulk of humanity would quickly consume existing food stocks including each other and then succumb to starvation. Radiation fallout would eventually kill any surviving the freeze. In short, a full thermonuclear bombardment would amount to an extinction event, more thorough than the extinction of the dinosaurs in a short period of time following an asteroid impact.
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  61. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website
    @Fran Macadam
    "I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different."

    I was a regional VP for the military-industrial Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA) during the Cold War. We were told that we had prevented export of this technology to the USSR. As some know, the backbone operating system of the internet and multiuser systems since the late sixties has been various versions of UNIX - the ubiquitous Linux operating system is a derivative.

    Well, when the Soviet ended and society there was in economic freefall, we hired Russian programmers. They already had their own VAX clones emulated using their own technology and were expert Unix programmers, better than most of our own. They had had this technology all along. I even had the thrill of logging onto "kremVAX" in Moscow, via modem.

    And DEC (Digital Equipment) lost the battle, being destroyed by Compaq and then the abysmal Carly Fiorina, more interested in offshoring jobs than shoring up advanced technology. The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

    They had had this technology all along.

    It is very difficult to convince very many US military “analysts” (most of whom are not real “analysts”) that USSR, actually, was leading a development of Precision Guided Munitions in very many important aspects. Those PGMs also were widely used in Afghanistan as early as 1980-81, from TV to laser-guided weapons. But then again, USSR also made a guided missile a national weapon of choice with all signal processing which came with the territory as early as mid-1950s. But who cares, as long as there are (numerous I may say) Tom Clancys around to explain that PGMs, among many other things, are American invention (in reality, German with them sinking Battleship Roma using radio controlled bomb in 1943), all kinds of myths could be developed. Those myths are very dangerous, because they soften criteria for doing stupid things militarily. This almost happened prior to Trump’s elections and we are not out of the woods yet.

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  62. @MB
    For once I wish the presstitutes masquerading as Einstein could riddle me this: If Drumpf is Hitler, who exactly are the Brownshirts?
    Oh, right. Reich told us the Berkleycrystallnacht was a right wing false flag affair.
    Gotta love the insufferable left wing progressive hubris. It's unsinkable.
    Like the Titanic.

    Given all the evil dictators who “were Hitler” but who really weren’t Hitler, aren’t the Einstein presstitutes and the people who write their bullet points revealing a bit too much about who Hitler really was?

    Just as Sherm can’t stop himself from gloating over making someone else the freier, so the oligarchs can’t restrain themselves from punching arms and sniggering over 85 years of convincing the entire world that Hitler was Hitler.

    Which, ironically, proves that oligarchs do have hearts — Telltale Hearts.

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    Hey Chuck

    How'd you learn a Yiddish word like "freier"?

    Sherm
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  63. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @jacques sheete

    You forget the part where your attempts at humor usually fall flat.
     
    It wasn't humor it was satire. Yours falls flat whatever it is.


    Gee, I’m just drooling with envy.
     
    Yes, you are. Yuck.
     
    You don't know JS.

    What’s funny? Sherm wasn’t crowing, it was simply an indirect suggestion for you to follow suit; so as to lift you from your mental and financial poverty. It will make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter.
     
    Does Sherm need you to speak for it? Maybe you should be concerned about your own mental and financial poverty. It may even make you happier, less peevish, even less transparently bitter. It may even make you a bit more original.

    Now, go take a hike.

    It wasn’t humor it was satire

    Satire and humor do not stand in opposition to each other but as rungs on the same ladder -Jacob ‘s ladder, satire assuredly lower. Had the Almighty smiled more benevolently upon you, humor might have graced your pen instead of the bitterness you mistake for satire.

    You don’t know JS.

    Yes I do. You’re an idiot.

    It may even make you a bit more original.

    Now, go take a hike.

    lol. Said the man who simply copied and pasted a portion of my reply. Speaking of hikes, you need them more than I do. Bitter old idiots etc…….

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  64. MarkinLA says:
    @SteveM

    Ever waded into the mental cesspit of the WaPo’s comments? There’s more blue pill takers there than an octogenarian convention.
     
    That is true. However, the internet which is supposedly an expansive universe of diverse opinion is really just huge archipelago of ideological ghettos. Even rational argument that runs counter to a site's theology has the originator quickly banned as a "troll" by its thought police. Constant mutual reinforcement and nothing more on both the Left and the Right. Stalin would be proud.

    As Phil Giraldi has noted, the leftist, interventionist MSM is a lapdog for the corporate and political Cronies. However the Fox alternative has never been "fair and balanced". It has always been a tool of the Crony Right.

    The 4th Estate has completely sold out the American people. What the American political environment needs is a genuinely objective media vehicle that will swing a 2X4 in all directions. Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    It appears that Trump is getting rolled by the Neocon Militarists and the Banksters even as I post this. The Vampire Squid of cronyism appears to be invincible. For the 99%, it's all over but the crying...

    Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    Yeah, when do you think that day will come. I am reminded of something attributed to Keynes: The market can stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent.

    How much money would you lose betting on an intelligent American populace before you made a cent?

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    True enough.

    But how much of this ignorance is willful versus the result of being manipulated constantly?

    I think an awful lot of our ignorance has resulted from the lies we are being told.

    I have lived in several different countries over the last decade and I am amazed how many people buy into the conventional wisdom as fed to them by their MSM. As bad as it is in the United States, the dumbing down from the media is even worse in countries like New Zealand and Canada. The result is scary with people believing the most ridiculous and absurd concepts as a matter of habit. For example, people are convinced that right wing white racists are on the streets in the United States beating up poor blacks and Muslims and shutting down free speech. When you try to explain to them that the leftists are the racists who hate whitey and are the ones doing the beatings, they have blank stares on their faces. It just does not compute. Even Robert Reich, a lifetime leftist, cannot believe the left could act in such a despicable manner.

    I think before one can even begin to see any kind of light it is essential to be aware that the MSM is despicable and dishonest. They peddle their narrative without any deviation as if it has been rehearsed over and over again. It is so rehearsed and methodical that it becomes the truth, the way things are. And it gives rise to the idiocy of expressions like "this is not who we are."

    They lie as they breathe and are a menace to a free people everywhere.

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  65. Sherman says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Given all the evil dictators who "were Hitler" but who really weren't Hitler, aren't the Einstein presstitutes and the people who write their bullet points revealing a bit too much about who Hitler really was?

    Just as Sherm can't stop himself from gloating over making someone else the freier, so the oligarchs can't restrain themselves from punching arms and sniggering over 85 years of convincing the entire world that Hitler was Hitler.

    Which, ironically, proves that oligarchs do have hearts -- Telltale Hearts.

    Hey Chuck

    How’d you learn a Yiddish word like “freier”?

    Sherm

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    I learned it from your mother.
    She said, "My son Shermie is a freier; it makes me so proud, even if he did flunk out of medical school in the Falklands."
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  66. MarkinLA says:
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    Google only exists because it is a massive data gathering operation for the NSA, same as for Facebook. The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.

    Whenever google led me to a site I tried to get to that site directly in other ways or through sites like E-bates or my credit card on-line shopping to get a bigger discount or a rebate. There is no way to pin a sale from me on any specific search engine.

    Russian Jewish immigration is the biggest source of American hating leftists – especially the pundit class.

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    Hating America, AmericanChristians and White goyim since 1870.

    Hating the entire non Jewish population of the earth since 4,000 AD
    , @Wizard of Oz
    As your second paragraph doesn't prove anything but your idiosyncratic and time consuming approach to internet use I would be interested to know why you think cents for clicks doesn't add up to a good stream of revenue. (Obviously it has nothing to do with actual proven sales).
    , @utu
    "The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks."

    The same goes for FB.

    But still they get money from corporations. Why do corporations give them money? Because they must. Just like corporations must purchase advertising time with media to support media. Lots of commercials do not accomplish anything but still corporation do spent lots of money on them. Why did they purchase 30sec segments per $5million during the Super Bowl? What is the mechanism of this racket? What happens if you do not play the game? Do you remember Microsoft and the threats that it will be broken up during Clinton? And the calls that Bill Gates should start sharing his wealth? So he started the foundation. Who is the most happy with his foundation work? Isn't it the Big Pharma?
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  67. Alden says:
    @Fran Macadam
    "I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different."

    I was a regional VP for the military-industrial Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA) during the Cold War. We were told that we had prevented export of this technology to the USSR. As some know, the backbone operating system of the internet and multiuser systems since the late sixties has been various versions of UNIX - the ubiquitous Linux operating system is a derivative.

    Well, when the Soviet ended and society there was in economic freefall, we hired Russian programmers. They already had their own VAX clones emulated using their own technology and were expert Unix programmers, better than most of our own. They had had this technology all along. I even had the thrill of logging onto "kremVAX" in Moscow, via modem.

    And DEC (Digital Equipment) lost the battle, being destroyed by Compaq and then the abysmal Carly Fiorina, more interested in offshoring jobs than shoring up advanced technology. The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

    I remember hearing a little bit about the decline of HP from people who worked there.
    But because Fiorina was a woman she was the hero of the media. But she took jobs away from the White men who created Silicon Valley and gave those jobs to non White men so she obeyed TPTB that gave her the job.
    I was so glad her presidential campaign went nowhere

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  68. MarkinLA says:
    @Fran Macadam
    "I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different."

    I was a regional VP for the military-industrial Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association (AFCEA) during the Cold War. We were told that we had prevented export of this technology to the USSR. As some know, the backbone operating system of the internet and multiuser systems since the late sixties has been various versions of UNIX - the ubiquitous Linux operating system is a derivative.

    Well, when the Soviet ended and society there was in economic freefall, we hired Russian programmers. They already had their own VAX clones emulated using their own technology and were expert Unix programmers, better than most of our own. They had had this technology all along. I even had the thrill of logging onto "kremVAX" in Moscow, via modem.

    And DEC (Digital Equipment) lost the battle, being destroyed by Compaq and then the abysmal Carly Fiorina, more interested in offshoring jobs than shoring up advanced technology. The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

    The Silicon Valley media lionized her, while those of us in the know thought her grossly incompetent to run HP, as she proved to be.

    She came from the marketing wing of HP. If Hewlett or Packard had been around they would have never had somebody that ignorant of technology running their company.

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  69. MarkinLA says:
    @MB
    Exactly.
    You get out in the working world and get to see what is really going on and it doesn't fit the narrative. Anywhere from the multimillion dollar lesbian feminist abortion center that opened up around the corner to the coverage of the Balkan wars where my paternal grandparents immigrated from. Half truths, if not lies prevailed.
    Never had a TV when I moved out and haven't missed much.
    Drumpf has got his own problems, but the mainstream moron media's incompetency got handed to them on a plate and somehow they still think they have some credibility and standing to report on and analyze da big D.
    Well, yeah, he's a big govt. authoritarian fascist but who isn't besides Pon Raul (iow he who may not be named) on the national stage? Did we jump from the frying pan into the fire with his win remains to be seen, but fascism? Come on. Yo MMM think FDR. It's as American as apple pie.
    Nothing without the state, everything within as Mussolini said all the while the Feds are involved with who uses what bathroom and bakes whom a cake. Civil "rights" is what I think they call it.
    IOW more of the same old same old in order to justify leviathan with the MMM playing Squealer to government's Napoleon. Geo. Orwell call your lawyer, I think you have a intellectual property lawsuit that promises to be a windfall.

    Cry about Trump all you want but every time you are are pissed, just click you heals together three time and repeat “Supreme Court”, ‘Supreme Court”, “Supreme Court” and you will be back in Kansas.

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  70. Alden says:
    @MB
    Exactly.
    You get out in the working world and get to see what is really going on and it doesn't fit the narrative. Anywhere from the multimillion dollar lesbian feminist abortion center that opened up around the corner to the coverage of the Balkan wars where my paternal grandparents immigrated from. Half truths, if not lies prevailed.
    Never had a TV when I moved out and haven't missed much.
    Drumpf has got his own problems, but the mainstream moron media's incompetency got handed to them on a plate and somehow they still think they have some credibility and standing to report on and analyze da big D.
    Well, yeah, he's a big govt. authoritarian fascist but who isn't besides Pon Raul (iow he who may not be named) on the national stage? Did we jump from the frying pan into the fire with his win remains to be seen, but fascism? Come on. Yo MMM think FDR. It's as American as apple pie.
    Nothing without the state, everything within as Mussolini said all the while the Feds are involved with who uses what bathroom and bakes whom a cake. Civil "rights" is what I think they call it.
    IOW more of the same old same old in order to justify leviathan with the MMM playing Squealer to government's Napoleon. Geo. Orwell call your lawyer, I think you have a intellectual property lawsuit that promises to be a windfall.

    MMM, moron mainstream media, I love it. I remember the Serbia/ Bosnia war. Since Clinton and the MMM favored the Muslim Bosnians and bombed the Serbians, I just assumed the Serbians were the good guys and the Bosnians the bad guys.

    Turns out, the Serbians were in the right and the Bosnians in the wrong. I didn’t have to do any research. I just assume every word in the MMM is a lie and the opposite is true.

    It’s worked for more than 50 years.

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  71. Alden says:
    @MarkinLA
    Google only exists because it is a massive data gathering operation for the NSA, same as for Facebook. The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.

    Whenever google led me to a site I tried to get to that site directly in other ways or through sites like E-bates or my credit card on-line shopping to get a bigger discount or a rebate. There is no way to pin a sale from me on any specific search engine.

    Russian Jewish immigration is the biggest source of American hating leftists - especially the pundit class.

    Hating America, AmericanChristians and White goyim since 1870.

    Hating the entire non Jewish population of the earth since 4,000 AD

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  72. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    To be lacking in power: Powerty.

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  73. @Sherman
    Hey Chuck

    How'd you learn a Yiddish word like "freier"?

    Sherm

    I learned it from your mother.
    She said, “My son Shermie is a freier; it makes me so proud, even if he did flunk out of medical school in the Falklands.”

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    too freaking funny ! (tsssss)
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  74. @Tom Welsh
    My "Road to Damascus" moment came in the 1980s, when Caspar Weinberger was Secretary of Defense. I just happened to turn on the radio one day, and I heard Mr Weinberger personally talking about a recent case in which it was alleged that a computer system had been illegally exported to the USSR. The system in question was a DEC VAX 11/782, and it was put to Mr Weinberger that since the US government allowed the VAX 11/780 to be exported to the USSR, the 11/782 should be no different.

    Mr Weinberger then stated that, despite the similarity in names, the VAX 11/782 was a completely different proposition from the VAX 11/780. Comparing the two, he said, was like comparing a 16-inch naval gun with a Colt 45. I clearly remember that analogy, because that was what opened my eyes.

    At the time I was working as a field service technician for DEC, and I had quite recently installed both VAX 11/780 and VAX 11/782 systems. So I knew that the 11/782 was essentially just two 11/780s in one cabinet, with some extra circuitry to allow them to share tasks. It was a primitive multiprocessor, using a technique called Asymmetric Multiprocessing, and its absolute peak computing power was about 1.7 times that of a VAX 11/780. If poorly programmed, it could even be slower.

    As I also had a clear idea of the difference between a 16-inch naval gun and a Colt 45, I not only knew that the Secretary of Defense was lying, but that he was using the Big Lie technique. I also knew that he was lying deliberately and knowingly, because it was inconceivable that his staff had not told him the true facts.

    thanks for sharing. this was pretty cool.

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  75. lavoisier says: • Website
    @MarkinLA
    Parenthetically, there would probably be a lot of money in it once Americans realized that they have been completely played as chumps by both sides.

    Yeah, when do you think that day will come. I am reminded of something attributed to Keynes: The market can stay irrational longer then you can stay solvent.

    How much money would you lose betting on an intelligent American populace before you made a cent?

    True enough.

    But how much of this ignorance is willful versus the result of being manipulated constantly?

    I think an awful lot of our ignorance has resulted from the lies we are being told.

    I have lived in several different countries over the last decade and I am amazed how many people buy into the conventional wisdom as fed to them by their MSM. As bad as it is in the United States, the dumbing down from the media is even worse in countries like New Zealand and Canada. The result is scary with people believing the most ridiculous and absurd concepts as a matter of habit. For example, people are convinced that right wing white racists are on the streets in the United States beating up poor blacks and Muslims and shutting down free speech. When you try to explain to them that the leftists are the racists who hate whitey and are the ones doing the beatings, they have blank stares on their faces. It just does not compute. Even Robert Reich, a lifetime leftist, cannot believe the left could act in such a despicable manner.

    I think before one can even begin to see any kind of light it is essential to be aware that the MSM is despicable and dishonest. They peddle their narrative without any deviation as if it has been rehearsed over and over again. It is so rehearsed and methodical that it becomes the truth, the way things are. And it gives rise to the idiocy of expressions like “this is not who we are.”

    They lie as they breathe and are a menace to a free people everywhere.

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    My Dad isn't stupid but I was saddened to realize that he bought everything the media was pushing about Trump and Hillary. A lot of it is his dislike of Republicans when they ran things locally in his neighborhood when he grew up.

    He could not believe anything that didn't fit his view of America. Like I said he wasn't stupid or didn't make any attempt to inform himself. It is just that he still assumes he is getting the truth from the MSM. He absolutely refused to take anything that came out of the Hillary e-mails as proof of what the Obama administration was doing.
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  76. DaveE says:
    @Sherman
    Thank goodness for Russian Jewish immigration.

    There is a brilliant Russian Jew named Sergei Brin who cocreated a little company called Google (along with an American born Jew).

    Today Brin is a gazillionaire. He employs thousands of wealthy and influential tech workers around the country who hate Trump and will fight his agenda with all their strength.

    I'm personally grateful to Brin as I've owned Google since it went public in 2004 and I've been buying on dips ever since. Not a bad chunk of change.....

    Congratulations. You seemingly know, maybe even personally, the only Jew at Google not directly connected to CIA and Mossad.

    Of course, that had nothing to do with the “success” of yet another Jewish Genius.

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  77. chris says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    I learned it from your mother.
    She said, "My son Shermie is a freier; it makes me so proud, even if he did flunk out of medical school in the Falklands."

    too freaking funny ! (tsssss)

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  78. annamaria says:

    Enjoy: “Maxine Waters Does It Again: Slams Trump For Supporting “‘Korea’-Invading Putin”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-07/maxine-waters-does-it-again-slams-trump-supporting-korea-invading-putin

    “How can a president, who is acting in the manner that he’s acting, whether he’s talking about the travel ban, the way that he’s talking to Muslims, or whether he’s talking about his relationship to Putin, and the Kremlin — and knowing that they have hacked our D-triple-C — DNC, and knowing that he is responsible for supplying the bombs that killed innocent children and families in, um – in, um– yeah, in Aleppo”…. https://www.rt.com/usa/376621-trump-korea-putin-crimea-waters/
    Priceless.
    “How does this Mental Giant get re-elected? Is she really the best her district has to offer?”

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    Racist, nasty aggressive black woman discovered, groomed and funded by Jews in a black district.
    She's the moron who claims Putin's army crossed 2,000 miles of China in a day and invaded Korea.
    Can't wait for her district to become Hispanic and a Hispanic opponent plays the race card and gets rid of her.
    But the liberal Jews control the Hispanics as well.
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  79. Art says:
    @Brabantian
    There is a greatness in the 'Trump revolution' that will survive without Trump if necessary, even if Trump turns out to be entirely a Deep State etc sell-out & fraud ... Trump's exposé of media corruption will be an enduring achievement even if Trump himself becomes seen just as corrupt himself

    Unlike the merely 'reformist' false hopes of Obama, Trump gave the just-about-full truth bomb re the USA - that the 2 big political parties & the big media are a fraud, the system is rigged by globalists against common people, etc ... Trump fired up the imagination of millions, & that will not go away now, that genie is out of the bottle, even if Trump himself is or always was a sell-out

    Trump will forever be one of the greatest political salesmen of US history ... particularly electrifying was that moment in Trump's 2nd debate with Hillary Clinton when Trump retorted, "Because you'd be in jail", to her remark that it was good he was not President - I think that moment was a turning point in USA history, & not only because confronting the leading witch of corruption so directly, led to Trump winning the election

    In his best moments - however possibly deceptively - Trump has given a living, breathing model of what an anti-corruption fighting hero president would look like. That is emblazoned into people's brains & will not go away even if in the end 'Real Donald Trump' is a fraud who betrays the myth.

    People are already starting to say Trump has been blackmailed ... some might soon opine that a body double took Trump's place after the inauguration ... Some hope Trump is still 'playing the fox' to not be killed by the US Deep State, this even including Trump's war-mongering & his orders that led to savage mass killings of Muslim women & children as in Yemen

    Hope that Trump is not in his heart Deep State, is ever more dubious each week ... but the Trump myth is now bigger than Trump himself, and the Revolution in America cannot be stopped, not even by Donald Trump, who well might be so informing his Deep State blackmailers

    Trump is still ‘playing the fox’ to not be killed by the US Deep State, this even including Trump’s war-mongering & his orders that led to savage mass killings of Muslim women & children as in Yemen

    OT. Have thought about this. Trump went to the arrival of the body of the fallen Seal.

    Did Trump come away from that event with revenge in his heart, or disgust for all the killing.

    One American, 17 bad guys, and over 20 non-combatants died (some of them women and children).

    Trump must know that the mission was a failure. The generals sold something that turned out badly.

    Did the raid advance peace – or have a negative effect, that ensures that more killing will happen in the future? How many more guys want to fill the shoes of the 17?

    Doesn’t the solution have to be political – not military?

    Where is our CIA – why are they not finding out who finances ISIS? Why are there NO sanctions on them? Why are there sanctions on Russia and Iran who are actually fighting ISIS?

    Answer – Jew Deep State!

    Peace — Art

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  80. MarkinLA says:
    @lavoisier
    True enough.

    But how much of this ignorance is willful versus the result of being manipulated constantly?

    I think an awful lot of our ignorance has resulted from the lies we are being told.

    I have lived in several different countries over the last decade and I am amazed how many people buy into the conventional wisdom as fed to them by their MSM. As bad as it is in the United States, the dumbing down from the media is even worse in countries like New Zealand and Canada. The result is scary with people believing the most ridiculous and absurd concepts as a matter of habit. For example, people are convinced that right wing white racists are on the streets in the United States beating up poor blacks and Muslims and shutting down free speech. When you try to explain to them that the leftists are the racists who hate whitey and are the ones doing the beatings, they have blank stares on their faces. It just does not compute. Even Robert Reich, a lifetime leftist, cannot believe the left could act in such a despicable manner.

    I think before one can even begin to see any kind of light it is essential to be aware that the MSM is despicable and dishonest. They peddle their narrative without any deviation as if it has been rehearsed over and over again. It is so rehearsed and methodical that it becomes the truth, the way things are. And it gives rise to the idiocy of expressions like "this is not who we are."

    They lie as they breathe and are a menace to a free people everywhere.

    My Dad isn’t stupid but I was saddened to realize that he bought everything the media was pushing about Trump and Hillary. A lot of it is his dislike of Republicans when they ran things locally in his neighborhood when he grew up.

    He could not believe anything that didn’t fit his view of America. Like I said he wasn’t stupid or didn’t make any attempt to inform himself. It is just that he still assumes he is getting the truth from the MSM. He absolutely refused to take anything that came out of the Hillary e-mails as proof of what the Obama administration was doing.

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  81. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @fnn
    Left-wing pro-Trump French intellectual:
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article195196.html

    thank you fnn
    this article at voltairenet was excellent- quite revealing- a relief from the noise we have from the American media distortion machine

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  82. […] media and higher academia taught us just this last decade – specifically in this election cycle […]

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  83. nsa says:
    @annamaria
    Real journalism. Antithesis to the MSM presstituting: http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-n-nuclear-weapon-ban-may-be-last-exit-before-extreme-tolls-for-humanity/5573347
    "Makers of nuclear bombs in the 1940s and today exploit a unique chemical property of billion-years old uranium—found in ores located beneath the Earth’s skin—to initiate a ‘runaway chain reaction’ that allows for a scale of destruction from nuclear energy release capable of destroying anything; not just the biggest cities, but entire planets, suns, even solar systems; all can be obliterated if enough of this uranium—and its man-made cousin, plutonium—is collected and assembled into a bomb.
    Despite efforts by lunatic scientists like Edward Teller to create a ‘clean’ or fallout-less bomb, nuclear weapons retain and will always retain the qualities of biological weapons. Why? The same chemical process that allows for big nuclear explosions creates, and inexorably spews, radioactive elements and energies at levels that will prevent life from thriving. Days ago, operators of the Fukushima Daiichi complex, the site of three nuclear reactor meltdowns in 2011, estimated radiation levels in the Unit 2 reactor of more than 50,000 Rems (500 Sieverts) per hour near a hole that formed from radioactive lava-like nuclear fuel burning through the reactor containment. The radioactive levels were obscenely high; exposure to 500 Rems in 60 minutes is enough radiation to kill one in two people. Hydrogen nuclear bombs used in war would spew and disperse large amounts of similar radioactivity across the Earth, creating lethal hotspots and severely contaminating food supplies across the globe."

    In a full thermonuclear bombardment complete with retaliation, radiation would not be the most immediate problem. Incineration of cities and the resulting massive firestorms would cast hundreds or millions of tons of smoke into the atmosphere, rapidly enshrouding the earth in a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight. Temperatures would drop below freezing for many years, killing most vegetation and making food production impossible. The bulk of humanity would quickly consume existing food stocks including each other and then succumb to starvation. Radiation fallout would eventually kill any surviving the freeze. In short, a full thermonuclear bombardment would amount to an extinction event, more thorough than the extinction of the dinosaurs in a short period of time following an asteroid impact.

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    pretty good description of a limited nuclear exchange nsa,

    I still think it'd be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we're on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed of the walking rapine on two legs.

    perhaps it's better if we nip this scourge now in its bud, than to find out what it will look like at it's maturity, when the oceans are uninhabitable and humans are either in, or operating places like Gitmo

    consider, that 20 years ago, the few Gitmos there were, were all secret (and had to be) 'black sites'. Now today, Gitmo is out in the open, and more are popping up all over S. America and Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I don't call this progress, but it is obviously the (Orwellian) trajectory that man"kind" is on.

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet, I'm actually glad that Russia has nukes. Because if that lone hamlet of human dignity were to fall to the Beas$t, I'd rather see the [limited] destruction that you describe, than for the future of life on earth to be 'a boot, stamping on a human face, forever'.

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  84. Alden says:
    @annamaria
    Enjoy: "Maxine Waters Does It Again: Slams Trump For Supporting "'Korea'-Invading Putin"
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-07/maxine-waters-does-it-again-slams-trump-supporting-korea-invading-putin
    "How can a president, who is acting in the manner that he's acting, whether he's talking about the travel ban, the way that he's talking to Muslims, or whether he's talking about his relationship to Putin, and the Kremlin -- and knowing that they have hacked our D-triple-C -- DNC, and knowing that he is responsible for supplying the bombs that killed innocent children and families in, um – in, um– yeah, in Aleppo".... https://www.rt.com/usa/376621-trump-korea-putin-crimea-waters/
    Priceless.
    "How does this Mental Giant get re-elected? Is she really the best her district has to offer?"

    Racist, nasty aggressive black woman discovered, groomed and funded by Jews in a black district.
    She’s the moron who claims Putin’s army crossed 2,000 miles of China in a day and invaded Korea.
    Can’t wait for her district to become Hispanic and a Hispanic opponent plays the race card and gets rid of her.
    But the liberal Jews control the Hispanics as well.

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    Not quite. It turns out that Russia has a tiny length of border with North Korea, near Vladivostok. So they could have gone in that way.

    Of course that in no way detracts from Ms Walters' ridiculous ignorance. I wonder if there should be some constitutional provision for removing congresspeople who reveal that they are utterly incompetent to do their job.
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  85. Rurik says:
    @nsa
    In a full thermonuclear bombardment complete with retaliation, radiation would not be the most immediate problem. Incineration of cities and the resulting massive firestorms would cast hundreds or millions of tons of smoke into the atmosphere, rapidly enshrouding the earth in a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight. Temperatures would drop below freezing for many years, killing most vegetation and making food production impossible. The bulk of humanity would quickly consume existing food stocks including each other and then succumb to starvation. Radiation fallout would eventually kill any surviving the freeze. In short, a full thermonuclear bombardment would amount to an extinction event, more thorough than the extinction of the dinosaurs in a short period of time following an asteroid impact.

    pretty good description of a limited nuclear exchange nsa,

    I still think it’d be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we’re on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed of the walking rapine on two legs.

    perhaps it’s better if we nip this scourge now in its bud, than to find out what it will look like at it’s maturity, when the oceans are uninhabitable and humans are either in, or operating places like Gitmo

    consider, that 20 years ago, the few Gitmos there were, were all secret (and had to be) ‘black sites’. Now today, Gitmo is out in the open, and more are popping up all over S. America and Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I don’t call this progress, but it is obviously the (Orwellian) trajectory that man”kind” is on.

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet, I’m actually glad that Russia has nukes. Because if that lone hamlet of human dignity were to fall to the Beas$t, I’d rather see the [limited] destruction that you describe, than for the future of life on earth to be ‘a boot, stamping on a human face, forever’.

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    it’d be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we’re on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed
     
    ______________________________________________

    and @ nsa:

    In a full thermonuclear bombardment…]
    [… a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight.
    [… an extinction event,
     
    But that's the old scenario in line with MAD which has been a useful log jam to further WW's in recent times. That was the idea that intercontinental missiles couldn't be stopped, nor preempted, and so various missile shield technologies have been on the drawing board, so the quest to find a work around to what was a stalemate might eventually cancel MAD. (mutually assured destruction). It might also be possible someday to do a first strike.

    I mean, it will eventually with some new weapons, what ever they may be, like the Neutron bomb that just kills more clean and leaves things more undisturbed.

    When they have that kind of advantage, that MAD is obsolete, then maybe we can have big all out wars again!

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet,]

    [the future of life on earth to be ‘a boot, stamping on a human face, forever’.
     
    Cheer up, it won't have to be Ecologically disastrous when that time comes, maybe some kind of lasers in space could be the next thing, no missile would be safe from it.

    Also, hopefully some more efficient use will develop for fissionable fuel sources, like propelling the rockets used in installing the space weapons! And/or extra terrestrial getaways for the elites.
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  86. @NoseytheDuke
    ABC Australia did a hit-piece on Trump last night on its 4 Corners show. News becomes pure comedy when you introduce an "expert" as being a former NSC adviser to GW Bush, like that's something anyone would want on their CV. First he says Trump is likely to be reckless when it comes to pushing the big, red button BUT then he goes on to say what a mistake it would be for Trump to forge better relations with Putin. WTF! Does anyone else see the illogic of that?

    The whole show was cringeworthy and was only worth watching to see actual history happening as a once respected national and international brand destroys the very trust that took years to build and then in a much less crowded market.

    You’ve been drinking again Nosey. I hadn’t seen the Four Corners program – which you misleadingly imply is a “News” program rather than a 50 minute current affairs doco – but now I have. And I have watched the relevant sections twice to be sure that what I say is accurate.

    It wasn’t a “hit piece” on Trump. But that is a matter of opinion. Everything else in your first par is wrong as a matter of fact apart from your comments which are merely unsupported by the facts. For example David Kramer, a former Assistant Secretary of State under Bush 43, opines only that forming an alliance with Russia in Syria would be a mistake because Russia wouldn’t follow through against ISIS. A simple online search shows that Kramer is/was an academic and professional Russia specialist. You seem to have confused him with Mike Green the former Natinal Security Adviser when attributing advice about Putin and Russia.

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  87. Che Guava says:
    @annamaria
    The vulgar blond with the pedestrian taste and pretense on cuteness is his niece (Amy Schumer). She is good at using the relation.

    Thanks, annamaria,

    I knew they were related (facial similarity). Funny how US media generally doesn’t report it.

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  88. @MarkinLA
    Google only exists because it is a massive data gathering operation for the NSA, same as for Facebook. The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.

    Whenever google led me to a site I tried to get to that site directly in other ways or through sites like E-bates or my credit card on-line shopping to get a bigger discount or a rebate. There is no way to pin a sale from me on any specific search engine.

    Russian Jewish immigration is the biggest source of American hating leftists - especially the pundit class.

    As your second paragraph doesn’t prove anything but your idiosyncratic and time consuming approach to internet use I would be interested to know why you think cents for clicks doesn’t add up to a good stream of revenue. (Obviously it has nothing to do with actual proven sales).

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    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google's quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don't pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn't result in sales and the customer didn't want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.
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  89. Tom Welsh says:
    @Alden
    Racist, nasty aggressive black woman discovered, groomed and funded by Jews in a black district.
    She's the moron who claims Putin's army crossed 2,000 miles of China in a day and invaded Korea.
    Can't wait for her district to become Hispanic and a Hispanic opponent plays the race card and gets rid of her.
    But the liberal Jews control the Hispanics as well.

    Not quite. It turns out that Russia has a tiny length of border with North Korea, near Vladivostok. So they could have gone in that way.

    Of course that in no way detracts from Ms Walters’ ridiculous ignorance. I wonder if there should be some constitutional provision for removing congresspeople who reveal that they are utterly incompetent to do their job.

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    I wonder if there should be some constitutional provision for removing congresspeople who reveal that they are utterly incompetent to do their job.

    Voting, but that seems to be less and less effective as time goes on.
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  90. Agent76 says:
    @Fran Macadam
    " ...relentlessly pushed by the fakestream media”

    Why that is a clever and apt description! I for one plan to be using it, in the interest of accuracy.

    Thanks Fran Macadam and please do!

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    “Fakestream Media”

    That's inspired! I recently made a case for using "Big Media" but now that Trump has implanted the Fake News concept, this will be clear as well as clever.

    Remember this:

    "The Media Should Be Made a Primary Target

    If the media is the crucial force empowering the opposition, then it should be regarded as a primary target of any political strategy. So long as the media remains strong, success may be difficult, but if the influence and credibility of the media were substantially degraded, then the ordinary opposing forces would lose much of their effectiveness. In many respects, the media creates reality, so perhaps the most effective route toward changing reality runs through the media."

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-breaching-the-media-barrier/
     
    From Ron Unz' keyboard to Trump's strategy. Thank you, Ron and Donald!
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  91. RobinG says:
    @Agent76
    Thanks Fran Macadam and please do!

    “Fakestream Media”

    That’s inspired! I recently made a case for using “Big Media” but now that Trump has implanted the Fake News concept, this will be clear as well as clever.

    Remember this:

    “The Media Should Be Made a Primary Target

    If the media is the crucial force empowering the opposition, then it should be regarded as a primary target of any political strategy. So long as the media remains strong, success may be difficult, but if the influence and credibility of the media were substantially degraded, then the ordinary opposing forces would lose much of their effectiveness. In many respects, the media creates reality, so perhaps the most effective route toward changing reality runs through the media.”

    http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-breaching-the-media-barrier/

    From Ron Unz’ keyboard to Trump’s strategy. Thank you, Ron and Donald!

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  92. edNels says:
    @Rurik
    pretty good description of a limited nuclear exchange nsa,

    I still think it'd be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we're on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed of the walking rapine on two legs.

    perhaps it's better if we nip this scourge now in its bud, than to find out what it will look like at it's maturity, when the oceans are uninhabitable and humans are either in, or operating places like Gitmo

    consider, that 20 years ago, the few Gitmos there were, were all secret (and had to be) 'black sites'. Now today, Gitmo is out in the open, and more are popping up all over S. America and Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I don't call this progress, but it is obviously the (Orwellian) trajectory that man"kind" is on.

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet, I'm actually glad that Russia has nukes. Because if that lone hamlet of human dignity were to fall to the Beas$t, I'd rather see the [limited] destruction that you describe, than for the future of life on earth to be 'a boot, stamping on a human face, forever'.

    it’d be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we’re on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed

    ______________________________________________

    and @ nsa:

    In a full thermonuclear bombardment…]
    [… a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight.
    [… an extinction event,

    But that's the old scenario in line with MAD which has been a useful log jam to further WW's in recent times. That was the idea that intercontinental missiles couldn't be stopped, nor preempted, and so various missile shield technologies have been on the drawing board, so the quest to find a work around to what was a stalemate might eventually cancel MAD. (mutually assured destruction). It might also be possible someday to do a first strike.

    I mean, it will eventually with some new weapons, what ever they may be, like the Neutron bomb that just kills more clean and leaves things more undisturbed.

    When they have that kind of advantage, that MAD is obsolete, then maybe we can have big all out wars again!

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet,]

    [the future of life on earth to be ‘a boot, stamping on a human face, forever’.

    Cheer up, it won’t have to be Ecologically disastrous when that time comes, maybe some kind of lasers in space could be the next thing, no missile would be safe from it.

    Also, hopefully some more efficient use will develop for fissionable fuel sources, like propelling the rockets used in installing the space weapons! And/or extra terrestrial getaways for the elites.

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    "...extra terrestrial getaways for the elites."
    No. They are stuck here for a foreseeable future.
    Unfortunately, ignorance is aggressive.
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  93. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    As your second paragraph doesn't prove anything but your idiosyncratic and time consuming approach to internet use I would be interested to know why you think cents for clicks doesn't add up to a good stream of revenue. (Obviously it has nothing to do with actual proven sales).

    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google’s quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don’t pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn’t result in sales and the customer didn’t want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.

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    I don't see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid. Those interested in achieving sales presumably get advertising professionals to advise them how to get the most cost effective exposure of (a) just the name plus link or just the name and/or (b) product information. It would be like getting someone to assure you that if you advertised on the bottom right corner of page 3 of your local free newspaper you could count on X thousand people seeing it.

    I have no idea what revenue Google claims from its clicks and can't form any view about its plausibility. Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.
    , @Ron Unz

    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google’s quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don’t pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn’t result in sales and the customer didn’t want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.
     
    I just happened to glance at this comment-thread, and although I'm absolutely no expert regarding Google Ads, I don't think this is correct...

    My strong impression is that one reason Google Ads is so lucrative is that it involves almost no human labor, i.e. sales reps, and is almost completely automated.

    Basically, if you want to buy ads, you provide a valid credit card number, and "bid" on various key-words, with various restrictions, agreeing to pay by the click. Google then allocates the ads based on complex formulas, including bid-price, click-percentages and such, and your CC is automatically charged. If you don't like your sales results, you just stop your ad campaign. As part of the system, Google freely provides all sorts of complex analytical metrics so that you can see where your clicks are coming from and help decide how to adjust your ad campaign. I think the only way you can avoid paying is to cancel your credit card or maybe fight with your credit card company, which presumably hurts your credit rating more than it hurts Google's tens of billions in revenue. Facebook ads are somewhat similar in structure, and I have occasionally used those.

    Since individuals and companies are paying those tens of billions, they feel it works. However, there have been a few lawsuits by angry advertisers claiming that Google is unfairly favoring its own products over their own. Basically, there's been a huge shift of advertising dollars aways from newspapers and TV to Google and Facebook, which is why the former are going broke and the latter are getting rich.

    I've never used Google Ads myself, but it would probably only take you a ten or twenty minutes plus maybe $5 in budget to test it and confirm the broad outlines of what I'm saying.
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  94. @MarkinLA
    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google's quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don't pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn't result in sales and the customer didn't want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.

    I don’t see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid. Those interested in achieving sales presumably get advertising professionals to advise them how to get the most cost effective exposure of (a) just the name plus link or just the name and/or (b) product information. It would be like getting someone to assure you that if you advertised on the bottom right corner of page 3 of your local free newspaper you could count on X thousand people seeing it.

    I have no idea what revenue Google claims from its clicks and can’t form any view about its plausibility. Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

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    I don’t see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid.

    If you don't have a signed contract then you are under no obligation to pay Google anything. The only thing they can do is threaten to put you at the end of their search lists. We would have heard stories about this by now if that was the case.

    Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

    Not if you are a front for the NSA. The CIA and other intelligence agencies have a lot of dummy companies. Who was the woman CIA operative Valerie Plame outed by the Bush administration? She was a spy looking for information on nuclear proliferation working for a phony made up company. What was that company bringing drugs in under Reagan - Air America?

    Google is probably making money so it likely has the earnings it says it has. They just come from a big fat check from the NSA and not from hundreds of thousands of companies paying for each click.
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  95. @Alden
    Know how people manage to pay those $40,000 a year tuitions for just day, not boarding private schools?

    There is a kind of educational non profit and trust that can be set up to pay the tuition. The entire payment becomes a tax deduction. So they use what would be paid in income tax for the tuition and pay nothing into the federal treasury.

    Sources, please.

    Wondering first whether you mean tax credit or tax deduction.

    Second, aren’t itemized deductions “phased out” at a fairly “low” income?
    Like a little over $300,000 for a married couple filing jointly.

    Really high-income people are allowed to retain only 10-20% of the benefit of any itemized deductions, as I understand it:

    http://www.arahcpa.com/blog/higher-income-taxpayers-hit-with-exemption–itemized-deductions-phase-out/37025

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    It's called an educational trust. My brother in law discovered it. He and all his rich friends have used it. A lot of my friends used it for their kids and now their grandchildren

    Sources? Just ask any accountant who deals with people who make $100,000 a year or more
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  96. annamaria says:
    @edNels

    it’d be preferable to a future eternity of Orwellian bondage and suffering, because with the trajectory that we’re on now, even the beasts of the field and denizens of the seas and jungles are all doomed by the (literally) infinite greed
     
    ______________________________________________

    and @ nsa:

    In a full thermonuclear bombardment…]
    [… a toxic radioactive opaque cloud blocking out 80% of the sunlight.
    [… an extinction event,
     
    But that's the old scenario in line with MAD which has been a useful log jam to further WW's in recent times. That was the idea that intercontinental missiles couldn't be stopped, nor preempted, and so various missile shield technologies have been on the drawing board, so the quest to find a work around to what was a stalemate might eventually cancel MAD. (mutually assured destruction). It might also be possible someday to do a first strike.

    I mean, it will eventually with some new weapons, what ever they may be, like the Neutron bomb that just kills more clean and leaves things more undisturbed.

    When they have that kind of advantage, that MAD is obsolete, then maybe we can have big all out wars again!

    Considering the [OT] nature of the people who are foisting this nightmare on the planet,]

    [the future of life on earth to be ‘a boot, stamping on a human face, forever’.
     
    Cheer up, it won't have to be Ecologically disastrous when that time comes, maybe some kind of lasers in space could be the next thing, no missile would be safe from it.

    Also, hopefully some more efficient use will develop for fissionable fuel sources, like propelling the rockets used in installing the space weapons! And/or extra terrestrial getaways for the elites.

    “…extra terrestrial getaways for the elites.”
    No. They are stuck here for a foreseeable future.
    Unfortunately, ignorance is aggressive.

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  97. annamaria says:

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/neoliberalism-and-the-new-world-order-imf-world-bank-reforms/5572157

    Michel Chossudovsky: “…how does the mainstream cover the war in Syria? Well, they forget to mention that ISIS, the Islamic State, is supported covertly by United States. They actually will admit it and then they will in a sense refute their own lies. They will admit it in so many words. They’ll say, ‘Oh, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are supporting the ISIS.’ But Turkey and Saudi Arabia are allies of the United States. Saudi Arabia doesn’t act without consulting Washington. So there we have a mainstream media which has evolved towards essentially presenting the lie as the truth, and that’s a fundamental relationship. Because when the lie becomes the consensus there’s no turning backwards.
    And when I say the lie becomes the truth or the lie becomes the consensus, it’s to say the United States is waging a war against terrorists. Ah, but you failed to mention that the terrorists are actually funded by the United States and they were created by the CIA. Everybody knows that but at the same time we don’t really believe in it anymore, and we believe in the lie. So it’s not to say that the truth is obfuscated. It’s a different mechanism. It’s the truth which becomes the lie and the lie becomes the truth, so that people have to believe the lie even though they know that the lie is a lie. It’s not the truth, so to speak.”
    It’s that the media, as an instrument of propaganda, has turned realities upside down. It has created a consensus which people dare not question. It upholds war as a humanitarian endeavor, as a peacemaking undertaking…
    In effect what this means is that both politics as well as the media are criminalized, because we have criminals in high office which are involved in making war in the name of peace, and then we have a media which serves as propaganda to uphold those lies. And at the same time, it means that the media is complicit in the criminalization of the state. Without the media serving as an instrument of propaganda the military agenda would not have a leg to stand on. The whole construct of US foreign policy would collapse like a deck of cards if it were subjected to truthful analysis within the media and confrontation and so on – but that does not happen.”

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  98. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I don't see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid. Those interested in achieving sales presumably get advertising professionals to advise them how to get the most cost effective exposure of (a) just the name plus link or just the name and/or (b) product information. It would be like getting someone to assure you that if you advertised on the bottom right corner of page 3 of your local free newspaper you could count on X thousand people seeing it.

    I have no idea what revenue Google claims from its clicks and can't form any view about its plausibility. Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

    I don’t see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid.

    If you don’t have a signed contract then you are under no obligation to pay Google anything. The only thing they can do is threaten to put you at the end of their search lists. We would have heard stories about this by now if that was the case.

    Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

    Not if you are a front for the NSA. The CIA and other intelligence agencies have a lot of dummy companies. Who was the woman CIA operative Valerie Plame outed by the Bush administration? She was a spy looking for information on nuclear proliferation working for a phony made up company. What was that company bringing drugs in under Reagan – Air America?

    Google is probably making money so it likely has the earnings it says it has. They just come from a big fat check from the NSA and not from hundreds of thousands of companies paying for each click.

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    While I am not nearly as knowledgeable about US laws as I am about Australian or UK laws and, also, much has changed since I taught students about the Statute of Frauds 1677 and its offspring in Contract and Legal History tutorials I am confident that contracts to pay for clicks do not have to be signed contracts.

    I presume that there is a standard contract that Google provides to those who wish to advertise or merely be given superior placing and it would entitle Google to debit a nominated bank or credit card account with the amount it calculates to be owing each month based on the number of clicks and whatever else counts such as repeat clicks from same clicker etc.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    If Google is receiving much of its revenue from government bodies which are not disclosed then its auditors have to be breaking the law. While that mightn't worry them in the short term because they could defend a shareholders class action by pointing out that there was no loss they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action. So... unlikely enough to require more evidence and tighter reasoning.
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  99. utu says:
    @MarkinLA
    Google only exists because it is a massive data gathering operation for the NSA, same as for Facebook. The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.

    Whenever google led me to a site I tried to get to that site directly in other ways or through sites like E-bates or my credit card on-line shopping to get a bigger discount or a rebate. There is no way to pin a sale from me on any specific search engine.

    Russian Jewish immigration is the biggest source of American hating leftists - especially the pundit class.

    “The idea that google makes money on advertising clicks was a good cover story but anybody with a brain knew it was impossible to monetize those clicks.”

    The same goes for FB.

    But still they get money from corporations. Why do corporations give them money? Because they must. Just like corporations must purchase advertising time with media to support media. Lots of commercials do not accomplish anything but still corporation do spent lots of money on them. Why did they purchase 30sec segments per $5million during the Super Bowl? What is the mechanism of this racket? What happens if you do not play the game? Do you remember Microsoft and the threats that it will be broken up during Clinton? And the calls that Bill Gates should start sharing his wealth? So he started the foundation. Who is the most happy with his foundation work? Isn’t it the Big Pharma?

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  100. annamaria says:

    http://thesaker.is/difficult-times-for-globalists-sitrep-by-scott-humor/

    “A sales managers for a retail chain Ringoo, an owner of 127 stores in Ukraine, wrote on her Facebook page a passionate albeit wordy memorandum on the subject of “How we should kill the ethnic Russians living in “our Ukraine.” She refers to the Israelis burning their enemies, and calls to kill, shoot, burn every ethnic Russian.
    “Are we Europeans or not? Do we have any self esteem? Why don’t we use tanks to run over ethnic Russians? When do we, finally, start burning Russians in gas chambers, like Stalin’s Russians did to our grandfathers during holodomor? Why don’t we completely ban the Russian occupational language? [She writes in the Russian language.] [In Russia more than 180 language are being studied in schools and used.]
    She also suggests to dig out the buried bodies of all ethnic Russians and burn their remains, like “Israel does to its enemies.” To issue special passports of occupants like they do in Latvia. To prosecute criminally those who give medical treatment to the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. She also calls to have a social action “Burn a Russian.” This women’s name is Yana Patishnyak (Яна Потишняк). …her open letter was reposted by every Ukrainian and liberal online news source…. according to some online publications, she is a Ukrainian Jew…”
    Food for thought: “Ukraine and Israel were recently called “one nation with one fate,” by the member of Ukrainian parliament

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  101. @MarkinLA
    I don’t see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid.

    If you don't have a signed contract then you are under no obligation to pay Google anything. The only thing they can do is threaten to put you at the end of their search lists. We would have heard stories about this by now if that was the case.

    Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

    Not if you are a front for the NSA. The CIA and other intelligence agencies have a lot of dummy companies. Who was the woman CIA operative Valerie Plame outed by the Bush administration? She was a spy looking for information on nuclear proliferation working for a phony made up company. What was that company bringing drugs in under Reagan - Air America?

    Google is probably making money so it likely has the earnings it says it has. They just come from a big fat check from the NSA and not from hundreds of thousands of companies paying for each click.

    While I am not nearly as knowledgeable about US laws as I am about Australian or UK laws and, also, much has changed since I taught students about the Statute of Frauds 1677 and its offspring in Contract and Legal History tutorials I am confident that contracts to pay for clicks do not have to be signed contracts.

    I presume that there is a standard contract that Google provides to those who wish to advertise or merely be given superior placing and it would entitle Google to debit a nominated bank or credit card account with the amount it calculates to be owing each month based on the number of clicks and whatever else counts such as repeat clicks from same clicker etc.

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    Very informative Wiz,

    Sincerely, I did not hear of such 'financial instruments' before.

    All may choose to avoid them.

    Thx,

    Che.
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  102. @MarkinLA
    I don’t see why sales have to be part of the calculation for Google to be paid.

    If you don't have a signed contract then you are under no obligation to pay Google anything. The only thing they can do is threaten to put you at the end of their search lists. We would have heard stories about this by now if that was the case.

    Ptesumably it would be in trouble with quite a few regulators and litigation funders if its accounts were falsified.

    Not if you are a front for the NSA. The CIA and other intelligence agencies have a lot of dummy companies. Who was the woman CIA operative Valerie Plame outed by the Bush administration? She was a spy looking for information on nuclear proliferation working for a phony made up company. What was that company bringing drugs in under Reagan - Air America?

    Google is probably making money so it likely has the earnings it says it has. They just come from a big fat check from the NSA and not from hundreds of thousands of companies paying for each click.

    If Google is receiving much of its revenue from government bodies which are not disclosed then its auditors have to be breaking the law. While that mightn’t worry them in the short term because they could defend a shareholders class action by pointing out that there was no loss they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action. So… unlikely enough to require more evidence and tighter reasoning.

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    Well, they get to base fighter planes nearby, for the proprietors to ride as funfair rides whenever they want. This goes back to Bush II, IIRC, of courre Barry Hussein liked the Google support, so still the case.

    Wonder who pays for the fuel?

    I would bet it is not Google. They sure didn't buy the aircraft, as they easily could.
    , @MarkinLA
    And yet no stories about companies refusing to pay, suing because they think they paid too much, suing because their placement on google's search pages is different from what they were promised.

    they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action.

    You mean like the ever expanding budget for the NSA cutting off Google and Facebook as their critical providers of metadata?
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  103. This article provides the kind of writing that makes reading worth the while. I feel the same way as Giraldi, as do many people I know. Keep on keeping on man.

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  104. Che Guava says:

    turns out that Russia has a tiny length of border with North Korea, near Vladivostok.

    Nice to someone becoming a little more educated.

    That border is nowhere near Vladivostok. Although closer than *some* other places.

    turns out

    :did you never look at map before? That narrow stretch of border is common knowledge to anyone with anyone with the curiosity to look at a map.

    It does not ‘turn out to be so’, just that you were too stupid to notice until last week.

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  105. annamaria says:

    “Blacklisting Dissent
    … when the U.S. confrontation with Russia over Ukraine, Crimea and the Donbas began in the summer of 2013, those of us who did not accept what was becoming the Washington Consensus, which held Putin to blame for everything, began to see ourselves as dissidents in the Soviet sense or at least in the manner of the old McCarthy era. In effect, we were blacklisted, largely excluded from publication in the professional journals, not to mention mainstream print and broadcast media. On campus, we mostly kept our mouths shut fearing for our jobs… For all his blustery and egotistical faults, Donald Trump has punched huge holes in the dominant neocon ideology that underlay the Washington Consensus on foreign policy during the presidencies of both George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Trump’s tweets and campaign messages asked, aloud and repeatedly, what could be wrong with the United States getting along with Russia and cooperating on common interests, starting with a joint campaign against ISIS.”

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/09/trump-confronts-new-mccarthyism/

    Trump faces a united front of ziocons and whoring brass (MIC). The “progressives,” charmed by the colored fraud that was throughout his whole presidency a killing machine and traitor to the interests of the US citizenry at large, have joined the unholy union of ziocons and MIC. The intensity of academia’s hatred towards Trump is amazing: see Reich who lost any logic and Lifton who has a narrow and profitable approach to “muslims’ problems.” They want to preserve their status quo, however indecent their support for the murderous Obama is. Tell them that Obama and his administration have been attacking Russian Federation on a daily basis, and the opportunists would squeal back that it is all Russia’s fault. Even when the US-supported neo-Nazis burnt the civilians alive. Point, for the “progressives,” on the facts of US support of Al Qaeda in Syria – and they would become temporarily blind. Tell them that the millions of Muslims are running fro their lives from the US/NATO slaughterous machine, and the “progressives” would answer that bad Putin is helping bad Assad. The US “progressives” are a lost cause. They want to stay children.

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  106. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    While I am not nearly as knowledgeable about US laws as I am about Australian or UK laws and, also, much has changed since I taught students about the Statute of Frauds 1677 and its offspring in Contract and Legal History tutorials I am confident that contracts to pay for clicks do not have to be signed contracts.

    I presume that there is a standard contract that Google provides to those who wish to advertise or merely be given superior placing and it would entitle Google to debit a nominated bank or credit card account with the amount it calculates to be owing each month based on the number of clicks and whatever else counts such as repeat clicks from same clicker etc.

    Very informative Wiz,

    Sincerely, I did not hear of such ‘financial instruments’ before.

    All may choose to avoid them.

    Thx,

    Che.

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    I don't think the "financial instruments" are much different from those of your telephone service paid for by direct debit from your credit card or bank account based on the telephone company's calculation of time rather than number of clicks.
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  107. KA says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/world/middleeast/iran-donald-trump.html?ref=world&_r=0 in a rush to stick it to Trump, stick anything that can soil his persona, NYT is refurbishing putting new gloss and paint in it’s own efforts to get the country to war against Iran . Where are the mentions of those celebrated NYT Staff, Hillary,Cheney ,Neocon of PNAC original , Marco,Cruz,and the entire AIPAC who have created this environment where Trump is now in and is forced to to breathe the same toxic air ? Yes it is same Trump who when reminds these MSM of the “killers among us” is faced with hatred ,vengeance, and ridicule from the same MSM.

    One of the ways the AIPAC ( read PNAC ADL JINSA FDD …) forces war is by working way up slowly and inexorably – polluting corrupting threatening local media, religious organizations, left and right leaning organizations, and local Congress or Senator fighting for reelection or challenging incumbents It creates the atmosphere where thee was none – a new Devil is now amidst us . It goes unchallenged . If the leader doesn’t answer question to “What will you do to the Devil ( read Iraq Arafat, Libya Syria, Iran ) properly ( as expected by the JINSA crowd and their mouthpieces that are MSM ) he is out of the wrestling ring . To survive the fight, Hillary , Cruz Huckabee, Marco ( read any names out of the ballot box and you will be correct ) will double down for war War is the new normal . Now when faced a critical situation that needs extraordinary measures for correction , politicians to survive and divert will go for the low hanging fruit that is the new Devil in town . Bill Clinton bombed Sudan and Iraq .Trump wants to bomb Iran .

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  108. Che Guava says:
    @SteveM

    The Unz Review, The Intercept (somewhat), RT (ironically). I would also throw in a small, difficult to surf site called Whatreallyhappened
     
    Appreciate the notation. But the reader base for the Unz Review and the Intercept are minuscule compared to the MSM, and even Breitbart which has its own rabid cabal of cretinous moronic commenters engaged in virtual mutual masturbation. Which illustrates my point about the ideological ghettos of the internet.

    And RT is actually a mess. Since Maidan it is a simplistic anti-Europe / USA propaganda vehicle. I.e., non-stop Europe / USA bashing recycled over and over with documentaries mostly about misery outside of Russia.

    Much of the American produced RT programming is terrible. It’s just standard propaganda from The Nation and Mother Jones with simplistic Leftist solutions to complex problems. And probably 80% of the positions they espouse run counter to Russian policies and sensibilities. Not that Crony Europe and Crony US don't deserve bashing, but RT's product suggests a Russian inferiority complex more than anything else.

    BTW, the American RT programs beat on Trump like a drum before, during and after the election. So much for RT being in the tank for Trump.

    The obvious model for comparison is the CGTV (Chinese) programming in America. CGTV actually talks about China, including challenges inside of China. Without the explicit ideological axe to grind that is so heavy handed in RT editorial programming.

    At this point, RT is an alternative, but not a very good one.

    BTW, agree. Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept should be lauded as a genuine journalist.

    RT is certainly superior to the lying press of most EU nations and major outlets in the USA.

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  109. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If Google is receiving much of its revenue from government bodies which are not disclosed then its auditors have to be breaking the law. While that mightn't worry them in the short term because they could defend a shareholders class action by pointing out that there was no loss they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action. So... unlikely enough to require more evidence and tighter reasoning.

    Well, they get to base fighter planes nearby, for the proprietors to ride as funfair rides whenever they want. This goes back to Bush II, IIRC, of courre Barry Hussein liked the Google support, so still the case.

    Wonder who pays for the fuel?

    I would bet it is not Google. They sure didn’t buy the aircraft, as they easily could.

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    Evidence?
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  110. Agent76 says:

    Feb 8, 2017 Rear Window – All Governments Lie

    In this film review of the documentary “All Governments Lie”, we hear from Director, Fred Peabody, and Producer, Peter Raymont, about how the mainstream corporate media are not holding Government’s accountable in the way that they should, and looks at the independent, investigative Journalists who are.

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    Agent76,

    Thanks for providing "Watch Commander."

    I know that the majority of governments lie and are hostile to the notion of Media presentation of truth. As you're aware, such phenomenon includes Imperial governments reaching back into history.

    For one example:
    Do you happen to recall the incident when British occupation troops fired upon rioting Hindu conscripts after they (unknowingly) licked a pork-based substance that was used by the Brits to reduce rifle barrel friction as bullets passed through. Following the classic Donald Rumsfeld evasive way, Prime Minister May may say (with superior dignity), "Poop happens."

    At first, I considered this article to be reiterating turf that Paul Craig Roberts covered in a truly great (published) speech on the martyrdom of heroic Mexican investigative journalists. Now I see that Mr. Giraldi has given us a necessary refresher course on "News That Fits an Agenda."

    Just consider for a moment the fact that the Zionist Corporate Media possesses the god-like power to enforce evident lies upon the American population at large? Agent76, as you gave us
    "Rear Window; All Governments Lie," I return the favor by providing a front window view into
    our US/Zionist Superpower-Gunslinger government and how any "News" that fails to fit into its "agenda" goes directly into The Classified Memory Archive Hole.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1VtozvvG4c

    Thank you.
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  111. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If Google is receiving much of its revenue from government bodies which are not disclosed then its auditors have to be breaking the law. While that mightn't worry them in the short term because they could defend a shareholders class action by pointing out that there was no loss they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action. So... unlikely enough to require more evidence and tighter reasoning.

    And yet no stories about companies refusing to pay, suing because they think they paid too much, suing because their placement on google’s search pages is different from what they were promised.

    they would surely be worried that a change in policy by the NSA or CIA or whichever could lead to a huge drop in the share price and consequent class action.

    You mean like the ever expanding budget for the NSA cutting off Google and Facebook as their critical providers of metadata?

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  112. @Carlton Meyer
    It is widely known that any Jew can immigrate to Israel, yet Muslims cannot. Even those born within Israel's borders (aka the West Bank) cannot become a citizen. And no other nation on earth has built walls higher or thicker than Israel to keep out Muslims, and Christians.

    So it was bizarre to see Israel's New York Senator Chuck Schumer denounce Trump's temporary ban on immigration from seven war torn Muslim nations. He even shed tears on camera! The corporate media widely reported Schumer's antics without a note of his open hypocrisy.

    I think Sudan once had a policy of allowing in any Muslim, no questions asked (they hosted Osama for a while).
    Wonder why mo’ Muslims didn’t take up on that kind offer.

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  113. Rapsie says:

    Please help us in Québec City: http://blvd.fm

    CENSORSHIP, is this fascism YET???

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  114. Ron Unz says:
    @MarkinLA
    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google's quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don't pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn't result in sales and the customer didn't want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.

    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google’s quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don’t pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn’t result in sales and the customer didn’t want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.

    I just happened to glance at this comment-thread, and although I’m absolutely no expert regarding Google Ads, I don’t think this is correct…

    My strong impression is that one reason Google Ads is so lucrative is that it involves almost no human labor, i.e. sales reps, and is almost completely automated.

    Basically, if you want to buy ads, you provide a valid credit card number, and “bid” on various key-words, with various restrictions, agreeing to pay by the click. Google then allocates the ads based on complex formulas, including bid-price, click-percentages and such, and your CC is automatically charged. If you don’t like your sales results, you just stop your ad campaign. As part of the system, Google freely provides all sorts of complex analytical metrics so that you can see where your clicks are coming from and help decide how to adjust your ad campaign. I think the only way you can avoid paying is to cancel your credit card or maybe fight with your credit card company, which presumably hurts your credit rating more than it hurts Google’s tens of billions in revenue. Facebook ads are somewhat similar in structure, and I have occasionally used those.

    Since individuals and companies are paying those tens of billions, they feel it works. However, there have been a few lawsuits by angry advertisers claiming that Google is unfairly favoring its own products over their own. Basically, there’s been a huge shift of advertising dollars aways from newspapers and TV to Google and Facebook, which is why the former are going broke and the latter are getting rich.

    I’ve never used Google Ads myself, but it would probably only take you a ten or twenty minutes plus maybe $5 in budget to test it and confirm the broad outlines of what I’m saying.

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    I thought I read somewhere that GM dropped it's Facebook ads because they didn't work.

    http://blog.raincastle.com/bid/84190/GM-Dropped-Its-Facebook-Ads-Should-You

    I don't believe that these models can work in the long term and for ever increasing revenue. There is too much competition and new search vehicles pop up all the time. The click thing probably does exist but it is a cover for the real revenue stream.
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  115. @Agent76
    Feb 8, 2017 Rear Window - All Governments Lie

    In this film review of the documentary “All Governments Lie”, we hear from Director, Fred Peabody, and Producer, Peter Raymont, about how the mainstream corporate media are not holding Government’s accountable in the way that they should, and looks at the independent, investigative Journalists who are.

    https://youtu.be/7EX2v7wHQhQ

    Agent76,

    Thanks for providing “Watch Commander.”

    I know that the majority of governments lie and are hostile to the notion of Media presentation of truth. As you’re aware, such phenomenon includes Imperial governments reaching back into history.

    For one example:
    Do you happen to recall the incident when British occupation troops fired upon rioting Hindu conscripts after they (unknowingly) licked a pork-based substance that was used by the Brits to reduce rifle barrel friction as bullets passed through. Following the classic Donald Rumsfeld evasive way, Prime Minister May may say (with superior dignity), “Poop happens.”

    At first, I considered this article to be reiterating turf that Paul Craig Roberts covered in a truly great (published) speech on the martyrdom of heroic Mexican investigative journalists. Now I see that Mr. Giraldi has given us a necessary refresher course on “News That Fits an Agenda.”

    Just consider for a moment the fact that the Zionist Corporate Media possesses the god-like power to enforce evident lies upon the American population at large? Agent76, as you gave us
    “Rear Window; All Governments Lie,” I return the favor by providing a front window view into
    our US/Zionist Superpower-Gunslinger government and how any “News” that fails to fit into its “agenda” goes directly into The Classified Memory Archive Hole.

    Thank you.

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    That pork contaminated incident of which you speak is just part of liberal propaganda against the British

    First, it was not pork but beef fat that caused the attempted uprising. Actually and truthfully, it was pure vegetable fat.

    In those days cartridges were encased in paper and the bullets were greased to make loading easier and to prevent rust.
    The soldiers ripped open the paper case with their teeth.

    Hindu revolutionaries spread the rumor that the cartridges were oiled with the beef fat of sacred cows. And tried to foment a revolution because of the beef fat.

    Conventional wisdom and most college history books still claim that the evil British went out of their way to insult and abuse the Hindus in the "British Army Of India" as it was called.

    Truth was, the English were very careful to cater to Hindu, Muslim and various Indian customs. The cartridges were greased with vegetable oil.

    The Hindu revolutionaries who spread the rumor that it was beef fat were just lying to foment a revolution.
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  116. MarkinLA says:
    @Ron Unz

    Why? Do you really think there are hundreds of millions of dollars in it like Google’s quarterly earnings statements reflect? You actually have to prove that you are making sales go up or the people you are billing will quickly dump you or not pay the bill. What does google do if you don’t pay the bill? They are a search engine. I have never heard of any stories where they have salesmen going out and drumming up business and making you sign a contract like the yellow pages or any other advertising media does.

    Have you ever heard of any lawsuits where google was sued because the clicks didn’t result in sales and the customer didn’t want to pay or google was suing to get money owed for their clicks? These things would be happening every day if they really were collecting revenue based on clicks and had legally binding contracts.
     
    I just happened to glance at this comment-thread, and although I'm absolutely no expert regarding Google Ads, I don't think this is correct...

    My strong impression is that one reason Google Ads is so lucrative is that it involves almost no human labor, i.e. sales reps, and is almost completely automated.

    Basically, if you want to buy ads, you provide a valid credit card number, and "bid" on various key-words, with various restrictions, agreeing to pay by the click. Google then allocates the ads based on complex formulas, including bid-price, click-percentages and such, and your CC is automatically charged. If you don't like your sales results, you just stop your ad campaign. As part of the system, Google freely provides all sorts of complex analytical metrics so that you can see where your clicks are coming from and help decide how to adjust your ad campaign. I think the only way you can avoid paying is to cancel your credit card or maybe fight with your credit card company, which presumably hurts your credit rating more than it hurts Google's tens of billions in revenue. Facebook ads are somewhat similar in structure, and I have occasionally used those.

    Since individuals and companies are paying those tens of billions, they feel it works. However, there have been a few lawsuits by angry advertisers claiming that Google is unfairly favoring its own products over their own. Basically, there's been a huge shift of advertising dollars aways from newspapers and TV to Google and Facebook, which is why the former are going broke and the latter are getting rich.

    I've never used Google Ads myself, but it would probably only take you a ten or twenty minutes plus maybe $5 in budget to test it and confirm the broad outlines of what I'm saying.

    I thought I read somewhere that GM dropped it’s Facebook ads because they didn’t work.

    http://blog.raincastle.com/bid/84190/GM-Dropped-Its-Facebook-Ads-Should-You

    I don’t believe that these models can work in the long term and for ever increasing revenue. There is too much competition and new search vehicles pop up all the time. The click thing probably does exist but it is a cover for the real revenue stream.

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    Now that Ron has greatly and convoncingly elaborated on my simple suppositions about the click basd business I can confidently say "Rubbish"! You don't know what you are talking about and haven't even tried Ron's suggested test. You haven't provided any evidence. at all, positive or nega1tve, for your last sentence.

    As for the search engine's starting up all the time and providing competition which will reduce Google revenues, again Rubbish! Name one outside China that has challenged Google's incumbent status in the last 2 years.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Apologies for #118's abruptness and typos as I rushed to a site meeting about the neighbour's proposed swimming pool....
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  117. @Che Guava
    Well, they get to base fighter planes nearby, for the proprietors to ride as funfair rides whenever they want. This goes back to Bush II, IIRC, of courre Barry Hussein liked the Google support, so still the case.

    Wonder who pays for the fuel?

    I would bet it is not Google. They sure didn't buy the aircraft, as they easily could.

    Evidence?

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    It is easy to find that Google has been given a couple of fighter jets and an airstrip to run them from as playthings.

    Look it up for yourself (preferably without resort to Google).
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  118. @MarkinLA
    I thought I read somewhere that GM dropped it's Facebook ads because they didn't work.

    http://blog.raincastle.com/bid/84190/GM-Dropped-Its-Facebook-Ads-Should-You

    I don't believe that these models can work in the long term and for ever increasing revenue. There is too much competition and new search vehicles pop up all the time. The click thing probably does exist but it is a cover for the real revenue stream.

    Now that Ron has greatly and convoncingly elaborated on my simple suppositions about the click basd business I can confidently say “Rubbish”! You don’t know what you are talking about and haven’t even tried Ron’s suggested test. You haven’t provided any evidence. at all, positive or nega1tve, for your last sentence.

    As for the search engine’s starting up all the time and providing competition which will reduce Google revenues, again Rubbish! Name one outside China that has challenged Google’s incumbent status in the last 2 years.

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    He has only provided some proof that the click garbage does exist - not that it can explain how google's earning seem to never have a hiccup - explain that.

    Microsoft has it's own search engine. There are supposed safe search engines popping up all the time such as cassiopesa and astromenda that I use.

    Lots of people have stopped using google yet their income never seems to go down. That doesn't make any sense given that they provide something of questionable value like Facebook which has none according to GM.

    How can I prove that google is not an NSA asset? I can only assume based on my long experience in the stock market that companies who's main product is BS usually don't have the earnings capability they say they do. I went through the dot com boom and bust. Yahoo couldn't make it by charging for ads when there was no competition yet somehow paying for clicks is worth billions. Myspace couldn't make it when there was nobody else but Facebook can.

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  119. Paul says:

    Where do you get the information to support your statement that Planned Parenthood DOES NOT provide Mammograms to women?

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    Never mind, fact checked it myself. Your assertion is true, in so far as they do not "provide" mammograms at the clinics, and in so far as the number of women who actually require a "referral" to a center with an x-ray machine is low.
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  120. Paul says:
    @Paul
    Where do you get the information to support your statement that Planned Parenthood DOES NOT provide Mammograms to women?

    Never mind, fact checked it myself. Your assertion is true, in so far as they do not “provide” mammograms at the clinics, and in so far as the number of women who actually require a “referral” to a center with an x-ray machine is low.

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  121. @MarkinLA
    I thought I read somewhere that GM dropped it's Facebook ads because they didn't work.

    http://blog.raincastle.com/bid/84190/GM-Dropped-Its-Facebook-Ads-Should-You

    I don't believe that these models can work in the long term and for ever increasing revenue. There is too much competition and new search vehicles pop up all the time. The click thing probably does exist but it is a cover for the real revenue stream.

    Apologies for #118′s abruptness and typos as I rushed to a site meeting about the neighbour’s proposed swimming pool….

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  122. MarkinLA says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Now that Ron has greatly and convoncingly elaborated on my simple suppositions about the click basd business I can confidently say "Rubbish"! You don't know what you are talking about and haven't even tried Ron's suggested test. You haven't provided any evidence. at all, positive or nega1tve, for your last sentence.

    As for the search engine's starting up all the time and providing competition which will reduce Google revenues, again Rubbish! Name one outside China that has challenged Google's incumbent status in the last 2 years.

    He has only provided some proof that the click garbage does exist – not that it can explain how google’s earning seem to never have a hiccup – explain that.

    Microsoft has it’s own search engine. There are supposed safe search engines popping up all the time such as cassiopesa and astromenda that I use.

    Lots of people have stopped using google yet their income never seems to go down. That doesn’t make any sense given that they provide something of questionable value like Facebook which has none according to GM.

    How can I prove that google is not an NSA asset? I can only assume based on my long experience in the stock market that companies who’s main product is BS usually don’t have the earnings capability they say they do. I went through the dot com boom and bust. Yahoo couldn’t make it by charging for ads when there was no competition yet somehow paying for clicks is worth billions. Myspace couldn’t make it when there was nobody else but Facebook can.

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    We can agree on how interesting it would be to have an answer to why one company prevails over an apparently similar company not least amongst the search engines and Facebook type social networking sites. If one sought out the most relevant academic theses and read the Harvard Business Review and comparable journals it wouldn't surprise me if plausible answers had been published. There have been so many startups which have thrived for a time and even made lasting fortunes for their founders and then dropped out of sight even if not wound up. Netscape and Look Smart come to mind as well as MySpace and Yahoo. Maybe one frequent problem is the founders taking $100 million out and retiring to do other things.

    I remember the tech boom well as I was too far away, and too experienced in market madness, to allow enthusiasm to grab me. Indeed I spent four+ years using derivatives to hedge against a massive downturn. It made money but of course I wasn't in to it in a big enough way to be able to buy up the world when the wreck occurred. I don't think there are any specially relevant lessons from that period which help to assess your speculations about Google and Facebook being recipients of critically large amounts of revenue from the NSA. However, i would trust federal bureaucrats to protect taxpayers in one obvious way and to get what information they wanted out of Google and Facebook by threatening them rather than paying them. I also note that the NSA and other data gatherers would rightly assume that some of their more dangerous enemies would avoid simple use of Google and Facebook and advise their colleagues and supporters to do so. It would therefore be necessary to buy info from all tbig and little search engine and social media businesses. Do you believe that is happening - that for example your searches on obscure srarch engines are being logged, reported and algorithmically examined and correlated from time to time? If so why? (Mind you I wouldn't regard it as unlilely that a modest fee for srrvice arrangement was maintained between intelligence authorities and all the search and social media companies: I just don't think it supports your doubts about the clicks).

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  123. @Che Guava
    Very informative Wiz,

    Sincerely, I did not hear of such 'financial instruments' before.

    All may choose to avoid them.

    Thx,

    Che.

    I don’t think the “financial instruments” are much different from those of your telephone service paid for by direct debit from your credit card or bank account based on the telephone company’s calculation of time rather than number of clicks.

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  124. How the hell did this comment “thread” manage to weave into Google revenues, mammograms, and a swimming pool?

    At any rate, upon thinking about the article’s title, I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld’s July 15, 1963 letter to RFK that requested an update on the administration’s annoying call for the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government.

    Readers can view young Rummy’s letter (below) that is presently NEWS to the majority of Americans and fits very well with the upstart Lobby’s “unspeakable” agenda.

    http://www.israellobby.org/azcdoj/congress/default.asp

    Lo and behold, Congressman Rumsfeld went into the battle (coup) with the armor that Yahweh gave him.

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    I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld’s July 15, 1963 letter to RFK...
     
    Great find, Chuck. I thought it would be useful to also present the text version of DR's letter:

    Dear Mr. Kennedy:

    Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28th issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli Government will depend upon the "risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States." (italics added)

    I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question.

    Thank you.
     
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Interesting letter for another reason too. It shows the smart Rumsfeld whose riff or should I say fugue featuring known and unknown unknowns was absurdly derided by the dim who didn't know the guy who crafted that very careful letter to RFK. What a pity that he was too long able to assume he was the smartest guy in the room - and didn't need to go outside the room to have his answers checked.
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  125. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski
    How the hell did this comment "thread" manage to weave into Google revenues, mammograms, and a swimming pool?

    At any rate, upon thinking about the article's title, I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld's July 15, 1963 letter to RFK that requested an update on the administration's annoying call for the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government.

    Readers can view young Rummy's letter (below) that is presently NEWS to the majority of Americans and fits very well with the upstart Lobby's "unspeakable" agenda.

    http://www.israellobby.org/azcdoj/congress/default.asp

    Lo and behold, Congressman Rumsfeld went into the battle (coup) with the armor that Yahweh gave him.

    I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld’s July 15, 1963 letter to RFK…

    Great find, Chuck. I thought it would be useful to also present the text version of DR’s letter:

    Dear Mr. Kennedy:

    Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28th issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli Government will depend upon the “risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States.” (italics added)

    I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question.

    Thank you.

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    geokat62,

    Wise idea to present the text version of Congressman D. Rumsfeld (Illinois) letter to A.G., R.F.K. Thanks.

    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.

    As time moved forward, A.Z.C. zealots negotiated with LBJ's A.G. Katzenbach and by 1968, the A.Z.C. reincorporated under the name AIPAC, and the US Treasury Department (I.R.S.) granted AIPAC exemption from having to pay Federal Income taxes.

    Refer to the pathetic letter below?

    http://www.israellobby.org/AIPAC/01251968_AIPAC_IRS_DETERMINATION.pdf

    Thanks geokat62.
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  126. @Chuck Orloski
    How the hell did this comment "thread" manage to weave into Google revenues, mammograms, and a swimming pool?

    At any rate, upon thinking about the article's title, I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld's July 15, 1963 letter to RFK that requested an update on the administration's annoying call for the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government.

    Readers can view young Rummy's letter (below) that is presently NEWS to the majority of Americans and fits very well with the upstart Lobby's "unspeakable" agenda.

    http://www.israellobby.org/azcdoj/congress/default.asp

    Lo and behold, Congressman Rumsfeld went into the battle (coup) with the armor that Yahweh gave him.

    Interesting letter for another reason too. It shows the smart Rumsfeld whose riff or should I say fugue featuring known and unknown unknowns was absurdly derided by the dim who didn’t know the guy who crafted that very careful letter to RFK. What a pity that he was too long able to assume he was the smartest guy in the room – and didn’t need to go outside the room to have his answers checked.

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  127. @MarkinLA
    He has only provided some proof that the click garbage does exist - not that it can explain how google's earning seem to never have a hiccup - explain that.

    Microsoft has it's own search engine. There are supposed safe search engines popping up all the time such as cassiopesa and astromenda that I use.

    Lots of people have stopped using google yet their income never seems to go down. That doesn't make any sense given that they provide something of questionable value like Facebook which has none according to GM.

    How can I prove that google is not an NSA asset? I can only assume based on my long experience in the stock market that companies who's main product is BS usually don't have the earnings capability they say they do. I went through the dot com boom and bust. Yahoo couldn't make it by charging for ads when there was no competition yet somehow paying for clicks is worth billions. Myspace couldn't make it when there was nobody else but Facebook can.

    We can agree on how interesting it would be to have an answer to why one company prevails over an apparently similar company not least amongst the search engines and Facebook type social networking sites. If one sought out the most relevant academic theses and read the Harvard Business Review and comparable journals it wouldn’t surprise me if plausible answers had been published. There have been so many startups which have thrived for a time and even made lasting fortunes for their founders and then dropped out of sight even if not wound up. Netscape and Look Smart come to mind as well as MySpace and Yahoo. Maybe one frequent problem is the founders taking $100 million out and retiring to do other things.

    I remember the tech boom well as I was too far away, and too experienced in market madness, to allow enthusiasm to grab me. Indeed I spent four+ years using derivatives to hedge against a massive downturn. It made money but of course I wasn’t in to it in a big enough way to be able to buy up the world when the wreck occurred. I don’t think there are any specially relevant lessons from that period which help to assess your speculations about Google and Facebook being recipients of critically large amounts of revenue from the NSA. However, i would trust federal bureaucrats to protect taxpayers in one obvious way and to get what information they wanted out of Google and Facebook by threatening them rather than paying them. I also note that the NSA and other data gatherers would rightly assume that some of their more dangerous enemies would avoid simple use of Google and Facebook and advise their colleagues and supporters to do so. It would therefore be necessary to buy info from all tbig and little search engine and social media businesses. Do you believe that is happening – that for example your searches on obscure srarch engines are being logged, reported and algorithmically examined and correlated from time to time? If so why? (Mind you I wouldn’t regard it as unlilely that a modest fee for srrvice arrangement was maintained between intelligence authorities and all the search and social media companies: I just don’t think it supports your doubts about the clicks).

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  128. @geokat62

    I went Google searching and found (Neoconservative-To-Be) Congressman Donald Rumsfeld’s July 15, 1963 letter to RFK...
     
    Great find, Chuck. I thought it would be useful to also present the text version of DR's letter:

    Dear Mr. Kennedy:

    Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28th issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli Government will depend upon the "risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States." (italics added)

    I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question.

    Thank you.
     

    geokat62,

    Wise idea to present the text version of Congressman D. Rumsfeld (Illinois) letter to A.G., R.F.K. Thanks.

    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.

    As time moved forward, A.Z.C. zealots negotiated with LBJ’s A.G. Katzenbach and by 1968, the A.Z.C. reincorporated under the name AIPAC, and the US Treasury Department (I.R.S.) granted AIPAC exemption from having to pay Federal Income taxes.

    Refer to the pathetic letter below?

    http://www.israellobby.org/AIPAC/01251968_AIPAC_IRS_DETERMINATION.pdf

    Thanks geokat62.

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    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.
     
    Thanks, Chuck. Your comment got me to do a little more digging and I managed to stumble upon this related info. It is a detailed timeline of the unsuccessful Kennedy effort to register the American Zionist Council (the AZC was the principal Israeli agency at the time, formed by Isaiah Kenen in 1951) as an agent of a foreign country:


    October, 1962: Assistant Attorney General and Director of the Internal Security Division J. Walter Yeagley notifies Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy “…we are soliciting next week the registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act…You may be aware that the American Zionist Council is composed of representatives of the various Zionist organizations in the United States including the Zionist Organization of America.”

    November, 1962: Nathan B. Lenvin, head of the FARA section, memo to central files, about a meeting with Jewish Agency representative Maurice M. Boukstein who asks about FARA applicability to AZC. “…in his view it was doubtful that any great protest would be made since in the discussions he has had with various officials connected both with the Zionist Council and the Jewish Agency he had made it clear in his view an agency relationship would result which may require registration.'”

    Edwin Guthman letter to Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach about future AZC FARA registration order. “I doubt very much there will be any fuss. I don’t think the American Zionist Council is in any position to do so…the Council has compromised its position.” OK’d by Robert F. Kennedy.

    DOJ orders AZC to register under FARA “…receipt of such funds from the American Section of the Jewish Agency for Israel constitutes the Council an agent of a foreign principal…the Council’s registration is requested.”

    December, 1962: AZC President Rabbi Irving Miller response to DOJ “The request for registration contained in your letter raises many questions of fact and of relationships which first must be resolved by us before compliance can be made. Therefore, it is requested that you be good enough to grant us a delay of 120 days…”

    January, 1963: Isaiah L. Kenen incorporates the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington, DC.

    DOJ draft file memo about 01/23/1963 DOJ meeting with AZC head legal counsel Simon H. Rifkind “…he had advised his client to discontinue completely the agency relationship and cut off the receipt of any additional funds…Mr. Lenvin pointed out specifically that the termination of the ‘activities’ on the part of AZC did not absolve it of its obligation to register…”

    Article in the National Jewish Post, filed in FARA Section – “AZC Gives Up $ to Avoid Foreign Agent Registration.”

    February, 1963: DOJ Executive Assistant Thomas Hall memo to Nathan Lenvin updating meeting notes “Mr. Hall emphasized that a contrary conclusion would not of course be reached during the course of this meeting and suggested that the subject submit a detailed argument as to why it was of the opinion it should not be required to register….”

    DOJ AZC January 23, 1963 meeting notes by Nathan Lenvin filed “discontinuance of receipt of such funds thus terminating the agency relationship did not absolve the Council of its obligation to register.”

    American Council for Judaism (AJC) newsletter. “The American Zionist Council (coordinating political action arm of all U.S. Zionist organizations) was asked last month by the Justice Department to register as a ‘foreign agent’ of the State of Israel.”

    March, 1963: New York Times reporter Tony Lewis calls FARA section to verify AZC foreign agent order state AJC press release.

    AZC Counsel “Memorandum of Law in support of our position that the American Zionist Council is not required to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938.”

    April, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on April 1, 1963- AZC Memorandum of Law rejected. “…if necessary I would be willing to recommend, if the representatives of the Council insisted upon these points, that the matter be litigated.”

    Thomas Hall memo with J. Walter Yeagley notes “Okay, but let’s get it concluded. Have we sent them J.A. reg[istration] statement?”

    May, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on May 2, 1963 “Finally, Judge Rifkind raised the point…that the vast number of Jews who adhered to the principles of Zionism could not understand how ‘our administration’ could do such harm to the Zionist movement and impair the effectiveness of the Council by insistence on registration. He appealed to the discretionary power of the Department…Mr. Katzenbach then noted that if the Council made a full disclosure of the receipt and expenditure of the funds it had received from the Jewish Agency so that such information would then be available for public inspection the purposes and objectives of the Registration Act might well be accomplished and very likely there would be nothing further for the Government to do…”

    First Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    June, 1963: Wall Street Journal article, “Federal lawyers near decision on whether to require the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government. High Justice Department officials weigh the risk of offending Jewish opinion in the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Fulbright also eyes the council’s activities.”

    July, 1963: Irene Bowman FARA section file memo on a June 28, 1963 DOJ AZC meeting, “Mr. Adrian W. DeWind and a Mr. Kahn (ph) of the law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison …for the purpose of submitting for the Department’s examination a stack of publications and several books prepared by the American Zionist Council….Prior to Mr. DeWind’s departure he said he was disturbed by what he described as the speed with which the American Council on Judaism learned that the Department had solicited the registration of the American Zionist Council. He wondered whether there was a leak in the Department.”

    Congressman Donald Rumsfeld letter to Robert F. Kennedy about status of AZC FARA registration: “Dear Mr. Kennedy, Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28 issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli government will depend upon the “risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States.” I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy of the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Donald Rumsfeld.”

    Thomas K. Hall Memo to Deputy AG Katzenbach and J. Walter Yeagley on Wall Street Journal Article. Yeagley notes “I called Judge Rifkind Thursday July 18. He said he thought the material had been submitted and was ’embarrassed.’ Fri[day] someone else from the firm called asking for still another 2 or 3 weeks as their controller or someone is in Europe.”

    J. Walter Yeagley responds to Rumsfeld “ultimate determination will be based on the law as applied to the facts…not on any consideration of its effect on the public opinion of the Jewish community…”

    American Council for Judaism Letter to RFK about AZC FARA registration “I am enclosing latest issue of our newsletter, Brief, featuring our comments on the Department of Justice investigation of the American Zionist Council…”

    Theresa Green FARA memo about AZC phone call request for two week filing deadline extension.

    Routing memo from Deputy AG Nicholas Katzenbach to J. Walter Yeagley “I guess this is the correct response. Rifkind should be needled, but much depends on Fulbright, too.”

    August, 1963: Second Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover offers J. Walter Yeagley FBI assistance to investigate the AZC “In view of recent public hearings…it is requested that you advise whether any investigation is desired….”

    J. Walter Yeagley response to 7/30/1963 Katzenbach routing memo (copy from above) “Mr. Hall – is it time to write Rifkind—or send memo to A.G. or send in FBI?”

    Thomas K. Hall internal FARA memo about AZC legal counsel “stalling hoping that time will resolve the difficulties faced by the AZC…We should go on record with the AG (copy to deputy) outlining the posture of this matter and indicate the need for more drastic action…”

    Irene Bowman, FARA section analysis on alleged AZC FARA violations derived from Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings. “…the Department should insist on the immediate registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and if such registration is not forthcoming, appropriate action should be taken to enforce such a request.”

    AZC Executive Director Rabbi Jerome Unger letter and filing to FARA Section “Enclosed wherewith are the two reports of Income and Expenditures of the American Zionist Council…”

    Nathan Lenvin query asking if Irene Bowman would accept as FARA registration, Bowman: “Absolutely not!”

    J. Walter Yeagley memo to Nicholas Katzenbach: “There is also attached a proposed letter from me to Judge Rifkind requesting a registration to be filed within ten days.”

    J. Walter Yeagley to FBI Director “..registration was originally solicited by letter dated November 21, 1962…Pending a determination as to whether further letter should be written insisting on registration no investigation will be required. You will be kept advised of developments in this matter.”

    October, 1963: DOJ Demand for AZC Registration “the Department expects a response from you within 72 hours with regard to this matter.”

    J. Walter Yeagley notes of DOJ AZC meeting attended by Nicholas Katzenbach. “Judge Rifkind then made a plea for no registration, stating it was the opinion of most of the persons affiliated with the Council that such registration would be so publicized by the American Council on Judaism that it would eventually destroy the Zionist movement…he did not believe his clients would file any papers or sign any papers indicating that the organization was an agent of a foreign principal. I told him that any such information or material that is supplied on that basis would be made part of the Department’s public files available for inspection by the public…”

    December, 1963: [LBJ is now in office.] AZC Counsel to DOJ “…our client is not prepared to register as an agent of a foreign government.”

    January, 1964: Deputy AG Katzenbach asks DOJ FARA section to prepare a “reply for his signature in a friendly rather than a hostile tone…to the effect that the material he submitted is not satisfactory…”

    Deputy AG Katzenbach letter to AZC counsel “The material you submitted is much less useful than what I had expected you were going to submit and of course there is no disclosure unless the data is available for public inspection.”

    AZC counsel Rifkind to Katzenbach “I shall try to accommodate my trip to Washington to some occasion when I am there on other business..”

    February, 1964: Nathan Lenvin meetings with AZC counsel Rifkind “Judge Rifkind opened the meeting by showing me a pamphlet distributed by the American Council for Judaism which contained charges that Zionists were acting as propaganda agents for the State of Israel…he was concerned that any disclosure which were being made should not be such as to substantiate these charges made by the American Council [for Judaism]… Mr. Rothenberg made one caviat, that they would have to be sure anything they submitted would not ultimately prejudice the organization in the eyes of the public.”

    May, 1965: (This burlesque drags on for months until) 05/17/1965 New York Times article: AZC convenes a major meeting at Jewish Agency New York headquarters “revising its program to strengthen every phase of Jewish religious and cultural life in this country….there should be no appeasement at the expense of Israel.”

    November, 1967: (Four years after the assassination, AIPAC has been substituted for the AZC) The American Israel Public Affairs Committee AIPAC applies for a federal tax exemption. The US Treasury Department grants it—backdated to 1953.
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  129. geokat62 says:
    @Chuck Orloski
    geokat62,

    Wise idea to present the text version of Congressman D. Rumsfeld (Illinois) letter to A.G., R.F.K. Thanks.

    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.

    As time moved forward, A.Z.C. zealots negotiated with LBJ's A.G. Katzenbach and by 1968, the A.Z.C. reincorporated under the name AIPAC, and the US Treasury Department (I.R.S.) granted AIPAC exemption from having to pay Federal Income taxes.

    Refer to the pathetic letter below?

    http://www.israellobby.org/AIPAC/01251968_AIPAC_IRS_DETERMINATION.pdf

    Thanks geokat62.

    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.

    Thanks, Chuck. Your comment got me to do a little more digging and I managed to stumble upon this related info. It is a detailed timeline of the unsuccessful Kennedy effort to register the American Zionist Council (the AZC was the principal Israeli agency at the time, formed by Isaiah Kenen in 1951) as an agent of a foreign country:

    [MORE]

    October, 1962: Assistant Attorney General and Director of the Internal Security Division J. Walter Yeagley notifies Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy “…we are soliciting next week the registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act…You may be aware that the American Zionist Council is composed of representatives of the various Zionist organizations in the United States including the Zionist Organization of America.”

    November, 1962: Nathan B. Lenvin, head of the FARA section, memo to central files, about a meeting with Jewish Agency representative Maurice M. Boukstein who asks about FARA applicability to AZC. “…in his view it was doubtful that any great protest would be made since in the discussions he has had with various officials connected both with the Zionist Council and the Jewish Agency he had made it clear in his view an agency relationship would result which may require registration.’”

    Edwin Guthman letter to Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach about future AZC FARA registration order. “I doubt very much there will be any fuss. I don’t think the American Zionist Council is in any position to do so…the Council has compromised its position.” OK’d by Robert F. Kennedy.

    DOJ orders AZC to register under FARA “…receipt of such funds from the American Section of the Jewish Agency for Israel constitutes the Council an agent of a foreign principal…the Council’s registration is requested.”

    December, 1962: AZC President Rabbi Irving Miller response to DOJ “The request for registration contained in your letter raises many questions of fact and of relationships which first must be resolved by us before compliance can be made. Therefore, it is requested that you be good enough to grant us a delay of 120 days…”

    January, 1963: Isaiah L. Kenen incorporates the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington, DC.

    DOJ draft file memo about 01/23/1963 DOJ meeting with AZC head legal counsel Simon H. Rifkind “…he had advised his client to discontinue completely the agency relationship and cut off the receipt of any additional funds…Mr. Lenvin pointed out specifically that the termination of the ‘activities’ on the part of AZC did not absolve it of its obligation to register…”

    Article in the National Jewish Post, filed in FARA Section – “AZC Gives Up $ to Avoid Foreign Agent Registration.”

    February, 1963: DOJ Executive Assistant Thomas Hall memo to Nathan Lenvin updating meeting notes “Mr. Hall emphasized that a contrary conclusion would not of course be reached during the course of this meeting and suggested that the subject submit a detailed argument as to why it was of the opinion it should not be required to register….”

    DOJ AZC January 23, 1963 meeting notes by Nathan Lenvin filed “discontinuance of receipt of such funds thus terminating the agency relationship did not absolve the Council of its obligation to register.”

    American Council for Judaism (AJC) newsletter. “The American Zionist Council (coordinating political action arm of all U.S. Zionist organizations) was asked last month by the Justice Department to register as a ‘foreign agent’ of the State of Israel.”

    March, 1963: New York Times reporter Tony Lewis calls FARA section to verify AZC foreign agent order state AJC press release.

    AZC Counsel “Memorandum of Law in support of our position that the American Zionist Council is not required to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938.”

    April, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on April 1, 1963- AZC Memorandum of Law rejected. “…if necessary I would be willing to recommend, if the representatives of the Council insisted upon these points, that the matter be litigated.”

    Thomas Hall memo with J. Walter Yeagley notes “Okay, but let’s get it concluded. Have we sent them J.A. reg[istration] statement?”

    May, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on May 2, 1963 “Finally, Judge Rifkind raised the point…that the vast number of Jews who adhered to the principles of Zionism could not understand how ‘our administration’ could do such harm to the Zionist movement and impair the effectiveness of the Council by insistence on registration. He appealed to the discretionary power of the Department…Mr. Katzenbach then noted that if the Council made a full disclosure of the receipt and expenditure of the funds it had received from the Jewish Agency so that such information would then be available for public inspection the purposes and objectives of the Registration Act might well be accomplished and very likely there would be nothing further for the Government to do…”

    First Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    June, 1963: Wall Street Journal article, “Federal lawyers near decision on whether to require the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government. High Justice Department officials weigh the risk of offending Jewish opinion in the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Fulbright also eyes the council’s activities.”

    July, 1963: Irene Bowman FARA section file memo on a June 28, 1963 DOJ AZC meeting, “Mr. Adrian W. DeWind and a Mr. Kahn (ph) of the law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison …for the purpose of submitting for the Department’s examination a stack of publications and several books prepared by the American Zionist Council….Prior to Mr. DeWind’s departure he said he was disturbed by what he described as the speed with which the American Council on Judaism learned that the Department had solicited the registration of the American Zionist Council. He wondered whether there was a leak in the Department.”

    Congressman Donald Rumsfeld letter to Robert F. Kennedy about status of AZC FARA registration: “Dear Mr. Kennedy, Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28 issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli government will depend upon the “risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States.” I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy of the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Donald Rumsfeld.”

    Thomas K. Hall Memo to Deputy AG Katzenbach and J. Walter Yeagley on Wall Street Journal Article. Yeagley notes “I called Judge Rifkind Thursday July 18. He said he thought the material had been submitted and was ’embarrassed.’ Fri[day] someone else from the firm called asking for still another 2 or 3 weeks as their controller or someone is in Europe.”

    J. Walter Yeagley responds to Rumsfeld “ultimate determination will be based on the law as applied to the facts…not on any consideration of its effect on the public opinion of the Jewish community…”

    American Council for Judaism Letter to RFK about AZC FARA registration “I am enclosing latest issue of our newsletter, Brief, featuring our comments on the Department of Justice investigation of the American Zionist Council…”

    Theresa Green FARA memo about AZC phone call request for two week filing deadline extension.

    Routing memo from Deputy AG Nicholas Katzenbach to J. Walter Yeagley “I guess this is the correct response. Rifkind should be needled, but much depends on Fulbright, too.”

    August, 1963: Second Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover offers J. Walter Yeagley FBI assistance to investigate the AZC “In view of recent public hearings…it is requested that you advise whether any investigation is desired….”

    J. Walter Yeagley response to 7/30/1963 Katzenbach routing memo (copy from above) “Mr. Hall – is it time to write Rifkind—or send memo to A.G. or send in FBI?”

    Thomas K. Hall internal FARA memo about AZC legal counsel “stalling hoping that time will resolve the difficulties faced by the AZC…We should go on record with the AG (copy to deputy) outlining the posture of this matter and indicate the need for more drastic action…”

    Irene Bowman, FARA section analysis on alleged AZC FARA violations derived from Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings. “…the Department should insist on the immediate registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and if such registration is not forthcoming, appropriate action should be taken to enforce such a request.”

    AZC Executive Director Rabbi Jerome Unger letter and filing to FARA Section “Enclosed wherewith are the two reports of Income and Expenditures of the American Zionist Council…”

    Nathan Lenvin query asking if Irene Bowman would accept as FARA registration, Bowman: “Absolutely not!”

    J. Walter Yeagley memo to Nicholas Katzenbach: “There is also attached a proposed letter from me to Judge Rifkind requesting a registration to be filed within ten days.”

    J. Walter Yeagley to FBI Director “..registration was originally solicited by letter dated November 21, 1962…Pending a determination as to whether further letter should be written insisting on registration no investigation will be required. You will be kept advised of developments in this matter.”

    October, 1963: DOJ Demand for AZC Registration “the Department expects a response from you within 72 hours with regard to this matter.”

    J. Walter Yeagley notes of DOJ AZC meeting attended by Nicholas Katzenbach. “Judge Rifkind then made a plea for no registration, stating it was the opinion of most of the persons affiliated with the Council that such registration would be so publicized by the American Council on Judaism that it would eventually destroy the Zionist movement…he did not believe his clients would file any papers or sign any papers indicating that the organization was an agent of a foreign principal. I told him that any such information or material that is supplied on that basis would be made part of the Department’s public files available for inspection by the public…”

    December, 1963: [LBJ is now in office.] AZC Counsel to DOJ “…our client is not prepared to register as an agent of a foreign government.”

    January, 1964: Deputy AG Katzenbach asks DOJ FARA section to prepare a “reply for his signature in a friendly rather than a hostile tone…to the effect that the material he submitted is not satisfactory…”

    Deputy AG Katzenbach letter to AZC counsel “The material you submitted is much less useful than what I had expected you were going to submit and of course there is no disclosure unless the data is available for public inspection.”

    AZC counsel Rifkind to Katzenbach “I shall try to accommodate my trip to Washington to some occasion when I am there on other business..”

    February, 1964: Nathan Lenvin meetings with AZC counsel Rifkind “Judge Rifkind opened the meeting by showing me a pamphlet distributed by the American Council for Judaism which contained charges that Zionists were acting as propaganda agents for the State of Israel…he was concerned that any disclosure which were being made should not be such as to substantiate these charges made by the American Council [for Judaism]… Mr. Rothenberg made one caviat, that they would have to be sure anything they submitted would not ultimately prejudice the organization in the eyes of the public.”

    May, 1965: (This burlesque drags on for months until) 05/17/1965 New York Times article: AZC convenes a major meeting at Jewish Agency New York headquarters “revising its program to strengthen every phase of Jewish religious and cultural life in this country….there should be no appeasement at the expense of Israel.”

    November, 1967: (Four years after the assassination, AIPAC has been substituted for the AZC) The American Israel Public Affairs Committee AIPAC applies for a federal tax exemption. The US Treasury Department grants it—backdated to 1953.

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    Excellent work, geokat62!

    Was it Sigmund Freud who said that one must understand their past prior to having capability to understand one's present?

    As a lonely school bus driver, in between runs, I get meaningful reading opportunities.

    For example, early this morning during a 2-hour snow delay, I read Sigmund Freud's letter (February 1888) to his closest friend, Wilhelm Fliess and I will provide you with the following paragraph:

    "Honorable Christendom is very indecent. Yesterday there was a major scandal in the medical society. They wanted to force us to subscribe to a new weekly journal, which is intended to represent the purified, exact, and Christian views of a few Hofrate (high civil servants) who have long forgotten what work is like. Of course, they are succeeding, I feel much like resigning." *

    * Quotation from the Jeffrey Mousssaieff Masson's 1985 book, "The Complete Letters of Sigmund Freud to Wilhelm Fliess."

    Note: The journal in question was the Wiener klinische Wochenschrift. ('Ya got that geokat62?) The journal's Senior Editor was Heinrich von Bamberger, a Jew, as were several other editorial board members. The initial editorial praised "The Fatherland" and the honor of the Vienna School. As noted in the quote above, Sigmund Freud did not cotton to such ominous language and rejected the society's agenda.

    (A station break; geokat62, I assume the Frankfurt School occupied a sector of Vienna School honorable turf?)

    Curiously, in the trembling year 1931, Freud was elected an honorary member of the very same society. It seems Sigmund never did resign while Christendom was awakening to the Jewish "indecencies" and opened the door for Hitler's rise to power.

    Your faithfully devoted school bus driver friend,
    Chuck Orloski

    Post scriptum: I am curious to know about Sam Shama's knowledge, if any, on S. Freud. In (I believe) "Civilization and its Discontents," Freud proposed a terrific idea on how governments could diminish Christian influence upon citizens minds! Taking a visual approach, Sigmund recommended the gradual removal of all traditional art, architecture, iconography, crosses, etcetera, from out of public view. In other words, what people do not see gets forgotten.

    Thank you.
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    Now I offer another Too True News Item (& Hidden Agenda) Fit For Print But Not For U.S. Mass Consumption.
     
    Thanks, Chuck. Your comment got me to do a little more digging and I managed to stumble upon this related info. It is a detailed timeline of the unsuccessful Kennedy effort to register the American Zionist Council (the AZC was the principal Israeli agency at the time, formed by Isaiah Kenen in 1951) as an agent of a foreign country:


    October, 1962: Assistant Attorney General and Director of the Internal Security Division J. Walter Yeagley notifies Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy “…we are soliciting next week the registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act…You may be aware that the American Zionist Council is composed of representatives of the various Zionist organizations in the United States including the Zionist Organization of America.”

    November, 1962: Nathan B. Lenvin, head of the FARA section, memo to central files, about a meeting with Jewish Agency representative Maurice M. Boukstein who asks about FARA applicability to AZC. “…in his view it was doubtful that any great protest would be made since in the discussions he has had with various officials connected both with the Zionist Council and the Jewish Agency he had made it clear in his view an agency relationship would result which may require registration.'”

    Edwin Guthman letter to Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach about future AZC FARA registration order. “I doubt very much there will be any fuss. I don’t think the American Zionist Council is in any position to do so…the Council has compromised its position.” OK’d by Robert F. Kennedy.

    DOJ orders AZC to register under FARA “…receipt of such funds from the American Section of the Jewish Agency for Israel constitutes the Council an agent of a foreign principal…the Council’s registration is requested.”

    December, 1962: AZC President Rabbi Irving Miller response to DOJ “The request for registration contained in your letter raises many questions of fact and of relationships which first must be resolved by us before compliance can be made. Therefore, it is requested that you be good enough to grant us a delay of 120 days…”

    January, 1963: Isaiah L. Kenen incorporates the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Washington, DC.

    DOJ draft file memo about 01/23/1963 DOJ meeting with AZC head legal counsel Simon H. Rifkind “…he had advised his client to discontinue completely the agency relationship and cut off the receipt of any additional funds…Mr. Lenvin pointed out specifically that the termination of the ‘activities’ on the part of AZC did not absolve it of its obligation to register…”

    Article in the National Jewish Post, filed in FARA Section – “AZC Gives Up $ to Avoid Foreign Agent Registration.”

    February, 1963: DOJ Executive Assistant Thomas Hall memo to Nathan Lenvin updating meeting notes “Mr. Hall emphasized that a contrary conclusion would not of course be reached during the course of this meeting and suggested that the subject submit a detailed argument as to why it was of the opinion it should not be required to register….”

    DOJ AZC January 23, 1963 meeting notes by Nathan Lenvin filed “discontinuance of receipt of such funds thus terminating the agency relationship did not absolve the Council of its obligation to register.”

    American Council for Judaism (AJC) newsletter. “The American Zionist Council (coordinating political action arm of all U.S. Zionist organizations) was asked last month by the Justice Department to register as a ‘foreign agent’ of the State of Israel.”

    March, 1963: New York Times reporter Tony Lewis calls FARA section to verify AZC foreign agent order state AJC press release.

    AZC Counsel “Memorandum of Law in support of our position that the American Zionist Council is not required to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938.”

    April, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on April 1, 1963- AZC Memorandum of Law rejected. “…if necessary I would be willing to recommend, if the representatives of the Council insisted upon these points, that the matter be litigated.”

    Thomas Hall memo with J. Walter Yeagley notes “Okay, but let’s get it concluded. Have we sent them J.A. reg[istration] statement?”

    May, 1963: Nathan Lenvin file memo of DOJ AZC meeting on May 2, 1963 “Finally, Judge Rifkind raised the point…that the vast number of Jews who adhered to the principles of Zionism could not understand how ‘our administration’ could do such harm to the Zionist movement and impair the effectiveness of the Council by insistence on registration. He appealed to the discretionary power of the Department…Mr. Katzenbach then noted that if the Council made a full disclosure of the receipt and expenditure of the funds it had received from the Jewish Agency so that such information would then be available for public inspection the purposes and objectives of the Registration Act might well be accomplished and very likely there would be nothing further for the Government to do…”

    First Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    June, 1963: Wall Street Journal article, “Federal lawyers near decision on whether to require the American Zionist Council to register as an agent of the Israeli government. High Justice Department officials weigh the risk of offending Jewish opinion in the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Fulbright also eyes the council’s activities.”

    July, 1963: Irene Bowman FARA section file memo on a June 28, 1963 DOJ AZC meeting, “Mr. Adrian W. DeWind and a Mr. Kahn (ph) of the law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison …for the purpose of submitting for the Department’s examination a stack of publications and several books prepared by the American Zionist Council….Prior to Mr. DeWind’s departure he said he was disturbed by what he described as the speed with which the American Council on Judaism learned that the Department had solicited the registration of the American Zionist Council. He wondered whether there was a leak in the Department.”

    Congressman Donald Rumsfeld letter to Robert F. Kennedy about status of AZC FARA registration: “Dear Mr. Kennedy, Several thoughtful and valued constituents have expressed their concern to me over a report in the June 28 issue of the Chicago edition of the Wall Street Journal which indicated that the determination by the Justice Department of the question of the registration of the American Zionist Council as an agent of the Israeli government will depend upon the “risk of offending Jewish opinion in the United States.” I would greatly appreciate your comments on this statement and also a report as to the policy of the Department of Justice will follow in determining this question. Thank you. Sincerely yours, Donald Rumsfeld.”

    Thomas K. Hall Memo to Deputy AG Katzenbach and J. Walter Yeagley on Wall Street Journal Article. Yeagley notes “I called Judge Rifkind Thursday July 18. He said he thought the material had been submitted and was ’embarrassed.’ Fri[day] someone else from the firm called asking for still another 2 or 3 weeks as their controller or someone is in Europe.”

    J. Walter Yeagley responds to Rumsfeld “ultimate determination will be based on the law as applied to the facts…not on any consideration of its effect on the public opinion of the Jewish community…”

    American Council for Judaism Letter to RFK about AZC FARA registration “I am enclosing latest issue of our newsletter, Brief, featuring our comments on the Department of Justice investigation of the American Zionist Council…”

    Theresa Green FARA memo about AZC phone call request for two week filing deadline extension.

    Routing memo from Deputy AG Nicholas Katzenbach to J. Walter Yeagley “I guess this is the correct response. Rifkind should be needled, but much depends on Fulbright, too.”

    August, 1963: Second Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Israeli foreign agents.

    FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover offers J. Walter Yeagley FBI assistance to investigate the AZC “In view of recent public hearings…it is requested that you advise whether any investigation is desired….”

    J. Walter Yeagley response to 7/30/1963 Katzenbach routing memo (copy from above) “Mr. Hall – is it time to write Rifkind—or send memo to A.G. or send in FBI?”

    Thomas K. Hall internal FARA memo about AZC legal counsel “stalling hoping that time will resolve the difficulties faced by the AZC…We should go on record with the AG (copy to deputy) outlining the posture of this matter and indicate the need for more drastic action…”

    Irene Bowman, FARA section analysis on alleged AZC FARA violations derived from Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings. “…the Department should insist on the immediate registration of the American Zionist Council under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and if such registration is not forthcoming, appropriate action should be taken to enforce such a request.”

    AZC Executive Director Rabbi Jerome Unger letter and filing to FARA Section “Enclosed wherewith are the two reports of Income and Expenditures of the American Zionist Council…”

    Nathan Lenvin query asking if Irene Bowman would accept as FARA registration, Bowman: “Absolutely not!”

    J. Walter Yeagley memo to Nicholas Katzenbach: “There is also attached a proposed letter from me to Judge Rifkind requesting a registration to be filed within ten days.”

    J. Walter Yeagley to FBI Director “..registration was originally solicited by letter dated November 21, 1962…Pending a determination as to whether further letter should be written insisting on registration no investigation will be required. You will be kept advised of developments in this matter.”

    October, 1963: DOJ Demand for AZC Registration “the Department expects a response from you within 72 hours with regard to this matter.”

    J. Walter Yeagley notes of DOJ AZC meeting attended by Nicholas Katzenbach. “Judge Rifkind then made a plea for no registration, stating it was the opinion of most of the persons affiliated with the Council that such registration would be so publicized by the American Council on Judaism that it would eventually destroy the Zionist movement…he did not believe his clients would file any papers or sign any papers indicating that the organization was an agent of a foreign principal. I told him that any such information or material that is supplied on that basis would be made part of the Department’s public files available for inspection by the public…”

    December, 1963: [LBJ is now in office.] AZC Counsel to DOJ “…our client is not prepared to register as an agent of a foreign government.”

    January, 1964: Deputy AG Katzenbach asks DOJ FARA section to prepare a “reply for his signature in a friendly rather than a hostile tone…to the effect that the material he submitted is not satisfactory…”

    Deputy AG Katzenbach letter to AZC counsel “The material you submitted is much less useful than what I had expected you were going to submit and of course there is no disclosure unless the data is available for public inspection.”

    AZC counsel Rifkind to Katzenbach “I shall try to accommodate my trip to Washington to some occasion when I am there on other business..”

    February, 1964: Nathan Lenvin meetings with AZC counsel Rifkind “Judge Rifkind opened the meeting by showing me a pamphlet distributed by the American Council for Judaism which contained charges that Zionists were acting as propaganda agents for the State of Israel…he was concerned that any disclosure which were being made should not be such as to substantiate these charges made by the American Council [for Judaism]… Mr. Rothenberg made one caviat, that they would have to be sure anything they submitted would not ultimately prejudice the organization in the eyes of the public.”

    May, 1965: (This burlesque drags on for months until) 05/17/1965 New York Times article: AZC convenes a major meeting at Jewish Agency New York headquarters “revising its program to strengthen every phase of Jewish religious and cultural life in this country….there should be no appeasement at the expense of Israel.”

    November, 1967: (Four years after the assassination, AIPAC has been substituted for the AZC) The American Israel Public Affairs Committee AIPAC applies for a federal tax exemption. The US Treasury Department grants it—backdated to 1953.

    Excellent work, geokat62!

    Was it Sigmund Freud who said that one must understand their past prior to having capability to understand one’s present?

    As a lonely school bus driver, in between runs, I get meaningful reading opportunities.

    For example, early this morning during a 2-hour snow delay, I read Sigmund Freud’s letter (February 1888) to his closest friend, Wilhelm Fliess and I will provide you with the following paragraph:

    “Honorable Christendom is very indecent. Yesterday there was a major scandal in the medical society. They wanted to force us to subscribe to a new weekly journal, which is intended to represent the purified, exact, and Christian views of a few Hofrate (high civil servants) who have long forgotten what work is like. Of course, they are succeeding, I feel much like resigning.” *

    * Quotation from the Jeffrey Mousssaieff Masson’s 1985 book, “The Complete Letters of Sigmund Freud to Wilhelm Fliess.”

    Note: The journal in question was the Wiener klinische Wochenschrift. (‘Ya got that geokat62?) The journal’s Senior Editor was Heinrich von Bamberger, a Jew, as were several other editorial board members. The initial editorial praised “The Fatherland” and the honor of the Vienna School. As noted in the quote above, Sigmund Freud did not cotton to such ominous language and rejected the society’s agenda.

    (A station break; geokat62, I assume the Frankfurt School occupied a sector of Vienna School honorable turf?)

    Curiously, in the trembling year 1931, Freud was elected an honorary member of the very same society. It seems Sigmund never did resign while Christendom was awakening to the Jewish “indecencies” and opened the door for Hitler’s rise to power.

    Your faithfully devoted school bus driver friend,
    Chuck Orloski

    Post scriptum: I am curious to know about Sam Shama’s knowledge, if any, on S. Freud. In (I believe) “Civilization and its Discontents,” Freud proposed a terrific idea on how governments could diminish Christian influence upon citizens minds! Taking a visual approach, Sigmund recommended the gradual removal of all traditional art, architecture, iconography, crosses, etcetera, from out of public view. In other words, what people do not see gets forgotten.

    Thank you.

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  131. annamaria says:

    meanwhile in Europe: http://thesaker.is/french-elite-chose-their-new-pawn-emmanuel-macron-former-director-of-banque-rothschild/
    The French oligarchy “ is clearing the way for Emmanuel Macron, a former Director of Banque Rothschild, to become a president of France. The dissidents shine an unwanted light on the Macron-Rothschild connection and in return, the elite seemed to have gotten the police to put unspecified arrest charges against the well-known dissident Alain Soral …The French police have been trying to arrest Alain Soral since Thursday, Feb. 2. The police haven’t stated why they want to arrest him, but the leaders of the “Socialist” [Holland's] government have said in just so many words, that they want to permanently silence Soral and Dieudonné. To quote Valls, the recently departed prime minister, “Death! … Uh, I mean social death!”
    Valls was named “France’s Zionist minister.” He makes one of the most shocking and disgusting examples of opportunism. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/02/frances-zionist-prime-minister-a-review-of-emmanuel-ratiers-le-vrai-visage-de-manuel-valls-part-2/

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  132. annamaria says:

    Oliver Stone calls on President Trump to “declassify” all secret documents on Ukraine conflict: http://theduran.com/oliver-stone-calls-on-trump-to-declassify-all-secret-documents-on-ukraine-conflict/
    “Stone characterized the current government in Kiev, calling it ‘unelected, extremely-right wing, heavily corrupted and controlled from abroad.’ Stone said that the Kiev regime’s survival solely depends on financial support from the US, EU, and the CIA.
    “Ukraine was one of the main objectives of the CIA”, Stone noted…saying that since the start of the Cold War, the United States provided covert aid to militia and dissident groups looking to dislodge the country from its Russian heritage and history.”
    This is not something that the presstituting MSM is ready to touch on.

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    "Oliver Stone calls on President Trump to declassify all secret documents on the Ukraine conflict."

    annamaria,

    Speaking respectfully to your vantage point, Oliver Stone should also declassify what transpired between him and Arnon Milchan during the making of "JFK." Deep secrets persist on what happened at Dealey Plaza and overturned the US government.

    Think "Permindex" and something the-late Michael Collins Piper happened "to touched on."

    Thanks!
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  133. annamaria says:

    It is fascinating to observe how the whole MSM is unraveling as a gigantic propagandistic / disinformation machine funded by plutocracy: http://www.voltairenet.org/article195246.html
    “Only a year ago, one could never have imagined such campaigns against a former French Prime Minister and even less against the current President of the United States of America. These campaigns display the ten traditional tenets of war propaganda, as observed in 1928 by Lord Arthur Ponsonby (“Falsehood in Wartime”) and then specified by Professor Anne Morelli (“Elementary Principles of War Propaganda”)
    1.- We deplore this confrontation with a president in office (USA) and during a presidential campaign (France).
    2.- MM. Trump & Fillon are the solely responsible for what is happening.
    3.- MM. Trump & Fillon are dangerous personalities.
    4.- We defend a noble cause, that of the principles of our Constitution (USA) and that of equality (France), while Messrs. Trump & Fillon only care about their personal fortunes.
    5.- MM. Trump & Fillon behave very badly. The first attacks Muslims, the second is a thief. Of course, we have made mistakes, but not at all on the same scale.
    6.- MM. Trump & Fillon use non-orthodox methods.
    7.- MM. Trump & Fillon are off track. The first has just been disowned by the federal courts, the second by the polls.
    8. – Artists and intellectuals share our indignation.
    9. – Our cause has a sacred character.
    10. – Those who question our media are neither true Americans nor true French.”

    Splendid!

    On the same topic: http://thesaker.is/a-possible-shift-in-the-russian-position-on-novorussia/
    (from Comment Section)
    “The EU is using the same propaganda trick like the nazis during WW2 that used the word “Europe” when they meant the German nazi empire:
    “Europe wins”“Europe against Moscow”

    http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=nwg&datum=19410623&seite=1&zoom=33

    “Nazi Plans for European Union”

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/27380

    On May 31, 1940, Werner Daitz:
    “We must always speak only of Europe, for the German leadership is self-determined by its political, economic, cultural, and technical weight, and its geographic location.”
    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.hintergrund.de/201304102526/politik/politik-eu/immer-nur-von-europa-sprechen.html”

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  134. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Evidence?

    It is easy to find that Google has been given a couple of fighter jets and an airstrip to run them from as playthings.

    Look it up for yourself (preferably without resort to Google).

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    I trust you realise that you are introducing a new subject as the previous issues were whether Google's pay-for-clicks model was capable of being the source of its revenue that it claimed AND whether there were *secret* subventions from intelligence sources. Your assertion doesn't add anything to the resolution of those questions. Therefore only mildly interesting, and I invite you to give us your preferred online links if you wish to engage your readers' interest.
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  135. @Che Guava
    It is easy to find that Google has been given a couple of fighter jets and an airstrip to run them from as playthings.

    Look it up for yourself (preferably without resort to Google).

    I trust you realise that you are introducing a new subject as the previous issues were whether Google’s pay-for-clicks model was capable of being the source of its revenue that it claimed AND whether there were *secret* subventions from intelligence sources. Your assertion doesn’t add anything to the resolution of those questions. Therefore only mildly interesting, and I invite you to give us your preferred online links if you wish to engage your readers’ interest.

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    You show that you are an over-inflated lazy fool with this post. Google has the unresticted use of a couple of jet fighters from a nearby airstrip. They are, IIRC, F-16s, under the control of NOAA, as a gift or bribe to the morons that couldn't spell 'googol' correctly in the first place.

    They wish the planes were Mig or Sukhoi, since the latest of both of those can climb to sub-orbital space, for some time before, but the gratis toys of the Google bosses must be fun at times. Why they can't pay their own money for them is a mystery.

    Don't expect others to spoon-feed you, look into things for yourself. I am a kind person, so will spoon-feed this time.
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  136. @annamaria
    Oliver Stone calls on President Trump to “declassify” all secret documents on Ukraine conflict: http://theduran.com/oliver-stone-calls-on-trump-to-declassify-all-secret-documents-on-ukraine-conflict/
    "Stone characterized the current government in Kiev, calling it ‘unelected, extremely-right wing, heavily corrupted and controlled from abroad.’ Stone said that the Kiev regime’s survival solely depends on financial support from the US, EU, and the CIA.
    “Ukraine was one of the main objectives of the CIA”, Stone noted…saying that since the start of the Cold War, the United States provided covert aid to militia and dissident groups looking to dislodge the country from its Russian heritage and history."
    This is not something that the presstituting MSM is ready to touch on.

    “Oliver Stone calls on President Trump to declassify all secret documents on the Ukraine conflict.”

    annamaria,

    Speaking respectfully to your vantage point, Oliver Stone should also declassify what transpired between him and Arnon Milchan during the making of “JFK.” Deep secrets persist on what happened at Dealey Plaza and overturned the US government.

    Think “Permindex” and something the-late Michael Collins Piper happened “to touched on.”

    Thanks!

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  137. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    I trust you realise that you are introducing a new subject as the previous issues were whether Google's pay-for-clicks model was capable of being the source of its revenue that it claimed AND whether there were *secret* subventions from intelligence sources. Your assertion doesn't add anything to the resolution of those questions. Therefore only mildly interesting, and I invite you to give us your preferred online links if you wish to engage your readers' interest.

    You show that you are an over-inflated lazy fool with this post. Google has the unresticted use of a couple of jet fighters from a nearby airstrip. They are, IIRC, F-16s, under the control of NOAA, as a gift or bribe to the morons that couldn’t spell ‘googol’ correctly in the first place.

    They wish the planes were Mig or Sukhoi, since the latest of both of those can climb to sub-orbital space, for some time before, but the gratis toys of the Google bosses must be fun at times. Why they can’t pay their own money for them is a mystery.

    Don’t expect others to spoon-feed you, look into things for yourself. I am a kind person, so will spoon-feed this time.

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    As I pointed out - and you have ignored - you had introduced a new topic which you couldn't presume other readers and commenters would be sufficiently interested in to investigate. Far from wishing to be spoonfed I merely pointed out to you that when you raise a new topic of no prima facie interest to others you might sensibly give them the benefit of your preferred links to evidence. Now you seem to think you have provided additional evidence but have done nothing but slightly elaborate the OT assertions you had made. Can you be so stupid? Are you trolling? Maybe just discourteously careless.
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  138. Che Guava says:

    By the way, you could still get a trip (albeit brief, but no less than Virgin Galctic) into suborbtial space on an earlier-gen Mig for a fifth of the price. You don’t get to play with friends sub-orbital for a minute or two, but you do get the view and experience.

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  139. @Che Guava
    You show that you are an over-inflated lazy fool with this post. Google has the unresticted use of a couple of jet fighters from a nearby airstrip. They are, IIRC, F-16s, under the control of NOAA, as a gift or bribe to the morons that couldn't spell 'googol' correctly in the first place.

    They wish the planes were Mig or Sukhoi, since the latest of both of those can climb to sub-orbital space, for some time before, but the gratis toys of the Google bosses must be fun at times. Why they can't pay their own money for them is a mystery.

    Don't expect others to spoon-feed you, look into things for yourself. I am a kind person, so will spoon-feed this time.

    As I pointed out – and you have ignored – you had introduced a new topic which you couldn’t presume other readers and commenters would be sufficiently interested in to investigate. Far from wishing to be spoonfed I merely pointed out to you that when you raise a new topic of no prima facie interest to others you might sensibly give them the benefit of your preferred links to evidence. Now you seem to think you have provided additional evidence but have done nothing but slightly elaborate the OT assertions you had made. Can you be so stupid? Are you trolling? Maybe just discourteously careless.

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    Never trollhng, as mods here know, just pointing you out as a very silly poster.

    Do you even consider your words? I am knowing that I make a mistake at times, sometimes many. not my native ianguage, but I have to be drunk or tired to make such mistakes.

    You manage to mangle your language without such assistance. Congrats!
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  140. Hibernian says:
    @Anon
    The idea that Sergei Brin is an Israel citizen is bullshit. He's never lived in Israel, and Israel doesn't just grant citizenship to any Jew who feels like it. You have to emigrate there. He left the USSR in 1979 and settled here in the United States.

    Provide proof for your assertion or withdraw it. Be a man.

    Brin has made no public statements on Israel's Law of Return, nor has he "demanded massive 3rd world immigration." I think you're either bullshitting again or just assume that Brin believes this because he's a JOOOOOOOOO.

    And the OP says NOTHING about immigration at all. Why insert your hateful garbage into every thread?

    You’re right, dual citizenship and eligibility for dual citizenship are not one and the same. I am eligible for citizenship in the Republic of Ireland but I’m not about to take them up on the offer.

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  141. bunga says:

    1 https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/lord-rothschild-discusses-balfour-declaration-miracle-1.432311

    2 Jewsnews The Times Of Israel

    Lord Rothschild discusses cousin’s crucial role in ‘miracle’ Balfour Declaration
    Speaking ahead of the 67-word letter’s centenary, Jacob Rothschild describes the historic declaration which paved the way for Israel’s existence

    Nothing in US media . It is an eye opening honest discussion There was no TNT no British gratitude to some chemical processes . It was pure vile bribes and pure exercise in war making process

    But one hears the drivel from Israeli lawyer on NYT -his fear -Trump is not supportive enough and he has reneged on moving embassy, has expressed reservation on settlements while Palestine are using terrorism to Israeli policy of settlement activities. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/opinion/can-this-special-relationship-be-saved.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

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  142. Alden says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Sources, please.

    Wondering first whether you mean tax credit or tax deduction.

    Second, aren't itemized deductions "phased out" at a fairly "low" income?
    Like a little over $300,000 for a married couple filing jointly.

    Really high-income people are allowed to retain only 10-20% of the benefit of any itemized deductions, as I understand it:

    http://www.arahcpa.com/blog/higher-income-taxpayers-hit-with-exemption--itemized-deductions-phase-out/37025

    It’s called an educational trust. My brother in law discovered it. He and all his rich friends have used it. A lot of my friends used it for their kids and now their grandchildren

    Sources? Just ask any accountant who deals with people who make $100,000 a year or more

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  143. Alden says:
    @Chuck Orloski
    Agent76,

    Thanks for providing "Watch Commander."

    I know that the majority of governments lie and are hostile to the notion of Media presentation of truth. As you're aware, such phenomenon includes Imperial governments reaching back into history.

    For one example:
    Do you happen to recall the incident when British occupation troops fired upon rioting Hindu conscripts after they (unknowingly) licked a pork-based substance that was used by the Brits to reduce rifle barrel friction as bullets passed through. Following the classic Donald Rumsfeld evasive way, Prime Minister May may say (with superior dignity), "Poop happens."

    At first, I considered this article to be reiterating turf that Paul Craig Roberts covered in a truly great (published) speech on the martyrdom of heroic Mexican investigative journalists. Now I see that Mr. Giraldi has given us a necessary refresher course on "News That Fits an Agenda."

    Just consider for a moment the fact that the Zionist Corporate Media possesses the god-like power to enforce evident lies upon the American population at large? Agent76, as you gave us
    "Rear Window; All Governments Lie," I return the favor by providing a front window view into
    our US/Zionist Superpower-Gunslinger government and how any "News" that fails to fit into its "agenda" goes directly into The Classified Memory Archive Hole.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1VtozvvG4c

    Thank you.

    That pork contaminated incident of which you speak is just part of liberal propaganda against the British

    First, it was not pork but beef fat that caused the attempted uprising. Actually and truthfully, it was pure vegetable fat.

    In those days cartridges were encased in paper and the bullets were greased to make loading easier and to prevent rust.
    The soldiers ripped open the paper case with their teeth.

    Hindu revolutionaries spread the rumor that the cartridges were oiled with the beef fat of sacred cows. And tried to foment a revolution because of the beef fat.

    Conventional wisdom and most college history books still claim that the evil British went out of their way to insult and abuse the Hindus in the “British Army Of India” as it was called.

    Truth was, the English were very careful to cater to Hindu, Muslim and various Indian customs. The cartridges were greased with vegetable oil.

    The Hindu revolutionaries who spread the rumor that it was beef fat were just lying to foment a revolution.

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    Don't forget that that Indian Army actually did fight for the British empire. Why not? If the British hadn't arrived, the slow conquest by the Mughals would have been complete.

    In the version that I was reading as a child, the barrels were greased with pork lard somewhere. which irritated Muslims. That was earlier in time, though.

    So, I presume that the incident you describe was likely, as you say, an invention, probably as a copy of the earlier.

    I am always to find it of interest that there were two Indian nationalist leaders, both with the surname Bose, one involved more with Japan, one more involved with Germany.

    This is one of many points that gives the lie to the idea that there was no geostrategic cooperation. Of course, it came to nothing, but was intended.

    Trouble was, Japanese armour was proven to be very weak against the Soviets at the battle of Nomonha. So we gave up.

    The foreign minister at the time the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was breaking down, stopped in Moscow, on the way home to Tokyo, he was advised to 'turn south' by Molotov, by some accounts, Stalin himself.

    Excusing the irrelevant words, what I was thinking about late at night, think they are a little worth a post.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    Thank you for a little snippet of what I take to be accurate information. I remember reading of the "Indian Mutiny", as it used to be referred to, that rumours spread about beef fat for the Hindus and pork fat for the Muslims, but it was never made clear that these rumours were deliberately calculated falsehoods. Come to think of it I only now understand how the Muslim troops could have been upset. They wouldn't have minded the pigs being killed but the use of their teeth that you mention provides the clue. Not that I really understand how much co-operation there was between Muslims and Hindus in the rebellion - or for that matter whether it was Muslim, Sikh or Hindu soldiers who did most to help the British put down the mutiny.
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  144. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    As I pointed out - and you have ignored - you had introduced a new topic which you couldn't presume other readers and commenters would be sufficiently interested in to investigate. Far from wishing to be spoonfed I merely pointed out to you that when you raise a new topic of no prima facie interest to others you might sensibly give them the benefit of your preferred links to evidence. Now you seem to think you have provided additional evidence but have done nothing but slightly elaborate the OT assertions you had made. Can you be so stupid? Are you trolling? Maybe just discourteously careless.

    Never trollhng, as mods here know, just pointing you out as a very silly poster.

    Do you even consider your words? I am knowing that I make a mistake at times, sometimes many. not my native ianguage, but I have to be drunk or tired to make such mistakes.

    You manage to mangle your language without such assistance. Congrats!

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    What extraordinary presumption by one with such a shaky grasp of English. If you think you are capable of judging my use of the language then you really should get a tutor whose native language is English. And he or she should deal with the real problem for you as someone contributing to sometimes intellectually respectable threads (in part) and that is your failure to grasp or acknowledge the logic of the language.

    Is it arrogance, or is it stupidity I have to ask when when you have had posed to you clearly, twice, that you are writing about a different subject ratherthan addressing an issue already raised, and yet.... you don't even acknowledge that let alone attempt to refute it.

    It is indeed very silly - to pick up a word you use and may understand - to engage in abusive bluster in a language you have a shaky grasp of concerning the words used by someone whom you are not not even capable of recognising as a professional. In fact, over many years, I have marked exam papers in legal subjects, and drafted contracts and statutes, inter alia. I have, in short, been paid to get words right.

    In point of style I too often don't take the time to reduce the length of my sentences from a first draft which depends on relative and subordinate clauses and careful punctuation for clarity, and for that I apologise because I know readers who have not mastered English or haven't been required to use precise language professionally tend to find that prolix and tiring if not tiresome. (QED :-)

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  145. @Che Guava
    Never trollhng, as mods here know, just pointing you out as a very silly poster.

    Do you even consider your words? I am knowing that I make a mistake at times, sometimes many. not my native ianguage, but I have to be drunk or tired to make such mistakes.

    You manage to mangle your language without such assistance. Congrats!

    What extraordinary presumption by one with such a shaky grasp of English. If you think you are capable of judging my use of the language then you really should get a tutor whose native language is English. And he or she should deal with the real problem for you as someone contributing to sometimes intellectually respectable threads (in part) and that is your failure to grasp or acknowledge the logic of the language.

    Is it arrogance, or is it stupidity I have to ask when when you have had posed to you clearly, twice, that you are writing about a different subject ratherthan addressing an issue already raised, and yet…. you don’t even acknowledge that let alone attempt to refute it.

    It is indeed very silly – to pick up a word you use and may understand – to engage in abusive bluster in a language you have a shaky grasp of concerning the words used by someone whom you are not not even capable of recognising as a professional. In fact, over many years, I have marked exam papers in legal subjects, and drafted contracts and statutes, inter alia. I have, in short, been paid to get words right.

    In point of style I too often don’t take the time to reduce the length of my sentences from a first draft which depends on relative and subordinate clauses and careful punctuation for clarity, and for that I apologise because I know readers who have not mastered English or haven’t been required to use precise language professionally tend to find that prolix and tiring if not tiresome. (QED :-)

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    BTW, your attenpt to use inter alia is also incorrect.
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    Sorry: I was denied any editing time to fix literals and typos…. :-)

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    Bullshit. You posted an error-filled screed and didn't bother checking. This site has no such time limit except the count-down to being unable to correct a post.

    Sure, I have been too late and slow more than once, but your mentality is so puerile that you really only have an ugly SJW PoV to offer, plenty of others have loud and similar voices elsewhere, why not go and join the chorus?
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  147. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Sorry: I was denied any editing time to fix literals and typos.... :-)

    Bullshit. You posted an error-filled screed and didn’t bother checking. This site has no such time limit except the count-down to being unable to correct a post.

    Sure, I have been too late and slow more than once, but your mentality is so puerile that you really only have an ugly SJW PoV to offer, plenty of others have loud and similar voices elsewhere, why not go and join the chorus?

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    If you know any professor of English, or of history or law, and if you are not too proud to seek help, I suggest that that you show him or her our comments on this thread and ask him/her to explain where you went astray.

    This latest comment of yours illustrates the problem in the most extreme form because the absurdity of what you write is so clear to see. Can you not see that boorish, inaccurate bluster which any moderately intelligent educated person who takes the trouble can see for what it is makes you look stupid? As a favour I shall spell out some of the kindergarten level problems.

    1. As already noted #149 "inter alia" which means "among other things" was used correctly as anyone bothering with the tedious task of checking up on your bluster could see. What sort of fool sticks his neck out like that?
    2.(a) "You posted an error filled screed". But you specify none because there were none bar the absence of a space between words.
    (b) You foolishly claimed total knowledge of all the possible mishaps which can occur in using UR software on various devices in different browsers. You are simply wrong as many commenters will know.
    3. As it happens I apparently tried posting my comment twice and suddenly both versions appeared (as has happened before - UR software always seems to remove one quite quickly) but neither had the edit facility underneath. Hence I started to write the addendum that you have replied to so I could ensure the smiley face symbol appeared after a comment I feared might puzzle the simple minded. I started it with the words which still appear because I erroneously thought there was more than the single typo I have found (not quite "error filled" let me emphasise) but as I was about to fix the last sentence + QED + symbol the edit function suddenly appeared under one copy of the main text and, apart from a closing parenthesis the problem at the end disappeared.

    Of course none of this tedious trivia would be needed if you could just grasp the substance instead of missing the point repeatedly. There may be others reading the comments who share your cognitive and/or linguistic limitations but you may be sure that most are intelligent and educated enough to see that you are exposing yourself as at best discourteously careless.
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  148. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    What extraordinary presumption by one with such a shaky grasp of English. If you think you are capable of judging my use of the language then you really should get a tutor whose native language is English. And he or she should deal with the real problem for you as someone contributing to sometimes intellectually respectable threads (in part) and that is your failure to grasp or acknowledge the logic of the language.

    Is it arrogance, or is it stupidity I have to ask when when you have had posed to you clearly, twice, that you are writing about a different subject ratherthan addressing an issue already raised, and yet.... you don't even acknowledge that let alone attempt to refute it.

    It is indeed very silly - to pick up a word you use and may understand - to engage in abusive bluster in a language you have a shaky grasp of concerning the words used by someone whom you are not not even capable of recognising as a professional. In fact, over many years, I have marked exam papers in legal subjects, and drafted contracts and statutes, inter alia. I have, in short, been paid to get words right.

    In point of style I too often don't take the time to reduce the length of my sentences from a first draft which depends on relative and subordinate clauses and careful punctuation for clarity, and for that I apologise because I know readers who have not mastered English or haven't been required to use precise language professionally tend to find that prolix and tiring if not tiresome. (QED :-)

    BTW, your attenpt to use inter alia is also incorrect.

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    Let me help you improve your literacy.
    What do *you* think "inter alia" means?

    You allege error so please say what the error is.

    In fact I used it correctly as a five second search (or an elementary knowledge of Latin - if only the Latin used by lawyers) would tell you. And it is you that again make one of your typical sloppy errors. I did not "attempt" to use "inter alia". I did use it.
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  149. @Che Guava
    BTW, your attenpt to use inter alia is also incorrect.

    Let me help you improve your literacy.
    What do *you* think “inter alia” means?

    You allege error so please say what the error is.

    In fact I used it correctly as a five second search (or an elementary knowledge of Latin – if only the Latin used by lawyers) would tell you. And it is you that again make one of your typical sloppy errors. I did not “attempt” to use “inter alia”. I did use it.

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    You are a PITA, and did not use 'inter alia' correctly, yet you claim to, I prefer to allow you to continue in ignorance.
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  150. Che Guava says:
    @Alden
    That pork contaminated incident of which you speak is just part of liberal propaganda against the British

    First, it was not pork but beef fat that caused the attempted uprising. Actually and truthfully, it was pure vegetable fat.

    In those days cartridges were encased in paper and the bullets were greased to make loading easier and to prevent rust.
    The soldiers ripped open the paper case with their teeth.

    Hindu revolutionaries spread the rumor that the cartridges were oiled with the beef fat of sacred cows. And tried to foment a revolution because of the beef fat.

    Conventional wisdom and most college history books still claim that the evil British went out of their way to insult and abuse the Hindus in the "British Army Of India" as it was called.

    Truth was, the English were very careful to cater to Hindu, Muslim and various Indian customs. The cartridges were greased with vegetable oil.

    The Hindu revolutionaries who spread the rumor that it was beef fat were just lying to foment a revolution.

    Don’t forget that that Indian Army actually did fight for the British empire. Why not? If the British hadn’t arrived, the slow conquest by the Mughals would have been complete.

    In the version that I was reading as a child, the barrels were greased with pork lard somewhere. which irritated Muslims. That was earlier in time, though.

    So, I presume that the incident you describe was likely, as you say, an invention, probably as a copy of the earlier.

    I am always to find it of interest that there were two Indian nationalist leaders, both with the surname Bose, one involved more with Japan, one more involved with Germany.

    This is one of many points that gives the lie to the idea that there was no geostrategic cooperation. Of course, it came to nothing, but was intended.

    Trouble was, Japanese armour was proven to be very weak against the Soviets at the battle of Nomonha. So we gave up.

    The foreign minister at the time the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was breaking down, stopped in Moscow, on the way home to Tokyo, he was advised to ‘turn south’ by Molotov, by some accounts, Stalin himself.

    Excusing the irrelevant words, what I was thinking about late at night, think they are a little worth a post.

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  151. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Let me help you improve your literacy.
    What do *you* think "inter alia" means?

    You allege error so please say what the error is.

    In fact I used it correctly as a five second search (or an elementary knowledge of Latin - if only the Latin used by lawyers) would tell you. And it is you that again make one of your typical sloppy errors. I did not "attempt" to use "inter alia". I did use it.

    You are a PITA, and did not use ‘inter alia’ correctly, yet you claim to, I prefer to allow you to continue in ignorance.

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    "PITA" tells the reader only about you. I am sure other readers are no more interested than I to learn what your emotional reaction to my comments is.

    Unfortunately for you you will have again advertised your deficiencies to all by failing to substantiate your simple unambiguous allegation that I misused "inter alia". I said "contracts and statutes, inter alia" which means "contracts and statutes among other things" and is exactly what I intended without any redundant addition of something like "of a documentary kind".

    I suspect that you are so far out of your depth that you wouldn't know what I was talking about if I asked whether you knew when it was appropriate to use "inter alios"????

    BTW you indicate in reply to Alden, unless it was another of your linguistic slips, that you are Japanese. I am surprised because my Japanese relations are all exquisitely courteous and punctilious.

    Ah, now I remember, half Japanese?

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  152. @Che Guava
    Bullshit. You posted an error-filled screed and didn't bother checking. This site has no such time limit except the count-down to being unable to correct a post.

    Sure, I have been too late and slow more than once, but your mentality is so puerile that you really only have an ugly SJW PoV to offer, plenty of others have loud and similar voices elsewhere, why not go and join the chorus?

    If you know any professor of English, or of history or law, and if you are not too proud to seek help, I suggest that that you show him or her our comments on this thread and ask him/her to explain where you went astray.

    This latest comment of yours illustrates the problem in the most extreme form because the absurdity of what you write is so clear to see. Can you not see that boorish, inaccurate bluster which any moderately intelligent educated person who takes the trouble can see for what it is makes you look stupid? As a favour I shall spell out some of the kindergarten level problems.

    1. As already noted #149 “inter alia” which means “among other things” was used correctly as anyone bothering with the tedious task of checking up on your bluster could see. What sort of fool sticks his neck out like that?
    2.(a) “You posted an error filled screed”. But you specify none because there were none bar the absence of a space between words.
    (b) You foolishly claimed total knowledge of all the possible mishaps which can occur in using UR software on various devices in different browsers. You are simply wrong as many commenters will know.
    3. As it happens I apparently tried posting my comment twice and suddenly both versions appeared (as has happened before – UR software always seems to remove one quite quickly) but neither had the edit facility underneath. Hence I started to write the addendum that you have replied to so I could ensure the smiley face symbol appeared after a comment I feared might puzzle the simple minded. I started it with the words which still appear because I erroneously thought there was more than the single typo I have found (not quite “error filled” let me emphasise) but as I was about to fix the last sentence + QED + symbol the edit function suddenly appeared under one copy of the main text and, apart from a closing parenthesis the problem at the end disappeared.

    Of course none of this tedious trivia would be needed if you could just grasp the substance instead of missing the point repeatedly. There may be others reading the comments who share your cognitive and/or linguistic limitations but you may be sure that most are intelligent and educated enough to see that you are exposing yourself as at best discourteously careless.

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    Don't fear. You are knowing the simple mindedness is on your side, I am surprised by your flood of abusive words at me.

    It is quite peasant to receive hate speech
    from a silly modern leftist.

    Che Guava’s even lost his pseudonym to anon.
     
    The silliest of all. Anon (at times, anyone
    can use it to post) was very different to moi, and would not try to seize my uname, we have a distant but agreeable connection. You are likely too ignorant to know the former handles of the Anon of whom you speak.
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  153. @Alden
    That pork contaminated incident of which you speak is just part of liberal propaganda against the British

    First, it was not pork but beef fat that caused the attempted uprising. Actually and truthfully, it was pure vegetable fat.

    In those days cartridges were encased in paper and the bullets were greased to make loading easier and to prevent rust.
    The soldiers ripped open the paper case with their teeth.

    Hindu revolutionaries spread the rumor that the cartridges were oiled with the beef fat of sacred cows. And tried to foment a revolution because of the beef fat.

    Conventional wisdom and most college history books still claim that the evil British went out of their way to insult and abuse the Hindus in the "British Army Of India" as it was called.

    Truth was, the English were very careful to cater to Hindu, Muslim and various Indian customs. The cartridges were greased with vegetable oil.

    The Hindu revolutionaries who spread the rumor that it was beef fat were just lying to foment a revolution.

    Thank you for a little snippet of what I take to be accurate information. I remember reading of the “Indian Mutiny”, as it used to be referred to, that rumours spread about beef fat for the Hindus and pork fat for the Muslims, but it was never made clear that these rumours were deliberately calculated falsehoods. Come to think of it I only now understand how the Muslim troops could have been upset. They wouldn’t have minded the pigs being killed but the use of their teeth that you mention provides the clue. Not that I really understand how much co-operation there was between Muslims and Hindus in the rebellion – or for that matter whether it was Muslim, Sikh or Hindu soldiers who did most to help the British put down the mutiny.

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  154. @Che Guava
    You are a PITA, and did not use 'inter alia' correctly, yet you claim to, I prefer to allow you to continue in ignorance.

    “PITA” tells the reader only about you. I am sure other readers are no more interested than I to learn what your emotional reaction to my comments is.

    Unfortunately for you you will have again advertised your deficiencies to all by failing to substantiate your simple unambiguous allegation that I misused “inter alia”. I said “contracts and statutes, inter alia” which means “contracts and statutes among other things” and is exactly what I intended without any redundant addition of something like “of a documentary kind”.

    I suspect that you are so far out of your depth that you wouldn’t know what I was talking about if I asked whether you knew when it was appropriate to use “inter alios”????

    BTW you indicate in reply to Alden, unless it was another of your linguistic slips, that you are Japanese. I am surprised because my Japanese relations are all exquisitely courteous and punctilious.

    Ah, now I remember, half Japanese?

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  155. Che Guava says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    If you know any professor of English, or of history or law, and if you are not too proud to seek help, I suggest that that you show him or her our comments on this thread and ask him/her to explain where you went astray.

    This latest comment of yours illustrates the problem in the most extreme form because the absurdity of what you write is so clear to see. Can you not see that boorish, inaccurate bluster which any moderately intelligent educated person who takes the trouble can see for what it is makes you look stupid? As a favour I shall spell out some of the kindergarten level problems.

    1. As already noted #149 "inter alia" which means "among other things" was used correctly as anyone bothering with the tedious task of checking up on your bluster could see. What sort of fool sticks his neck out like that?
    2.(a) "You posted an error filled screed". But you specify none because there were none bar the absence of a space between words.
    (b) You foolishly claimed total knowledge of all the possible mishaps which can occur in using UR software on various devices in different browsers. You are simply wrong as many commenters will know.
    3. As it happens I apparently tried posting my comment twice and suddenly both versions appeared (as has happened before - UR software always seems to remove one quite quickly) but neither had the edit facility underneath. Hence I started to write the addendum that you have replied to so I could ensure the smiley face symbol appeared after a comment I feared might puzzle the simple minded. I started it with the words which still appear because I erroneously thought there was more than the single typo I have found (not quite "error filled" let me emphasise) but as I was about to fix the last sentence + QED + symbol the edit function suddenly appeared under one copy of the main text and, apart from a closing parenthesis the problem at the end disappeared.

    Of course none of this tedious trivia would be needed if you could just grasp the substance instead of missing the point repeatedly. There may be others reading the comments who share your cognitive and/or linguistic limitations but you may be sure that most are intelligent and educated enough to see that you are exposing yourself as at best discourteously careless.

    Don’t fear. You are knowing the simple mindedness is on your side, I am surprised by your flood of abusive words at me.

    It is quite peasant to receive hate speech
    from a silly modern leftist.

    Che Guava’s even lost his pseudonym to anon.

    The silliest of all. Anon (at times, anyone
    can use it to post) was very different to moi, and would not try to seize my uname, we have a distant but agreeable connection. You are likely too ignorant to know the former handles of the Anon of whom you speak.

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    You really do want to expose yourself don't you? If anyone had time on their hands to take notice and care about your reference to Anon (unstated but on another thread!) they would find that you have
    (a) outed a covert ally which is counterproductive if you want to be taken seriously as an honest contributor to debate,
    (b) not even spelled the "anon" correctly
    (c) most absurdly, treated me, and every other commenter, as failing in some way if we didn't know who was behind the Anon (sic) tag.

    Further exposure of yourself: "flood of abusive words" - actually about one sentence in one paragraph of a long comment; "hate speech"!!! (It is demeaning to hate fools); "modern leftist" and, previously, "SJW POV" - this is so ludicrously close to the 180° opposite of the truth that you might even do better exhibiting whatever ability you have to answer the points I have made.

    BTW next time you think of again, erroneously, writing of the UR software working perfectly to your taste or for your current point you may care to look at #117 and #118 of James Thompson's thread headed The Woodley Effect and next time reconsider further exposure of your limitations.

    I withdraw the suggestion that you are a troll. I think a kind and accurate enough description is a slightly wooly opinionated eccentric. I note #32 that you "never use Google" and I see nothing *on this thread* to disprove your assertion, which I nonetheless doubt. What still intrigues me is your ancestral and educational background. Peruvian Japanese perhaps or half Japanese half ? and some education in America? Anyway I am giving your English expression the credit of correctly conveying that you identify as Japanese. As I said I would expect you to be more careful and courteous. But then again there is that matter of "face" and I notice no response except heightened evidence of discomfort on the many occasions on which I have exposed your errors, even thought they were minor and unimportant by any objective standard. Not knowing the meaning of "inter alia" FGS! But you did rather hang your self evaluation on it....

    BTW in case you haven't by now experienced it, the edit function has taken such a long time to come up that I almost clicked the Publish button twice. So much for your earlier rant that presumed it wasn't so.

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  156. @Che Guava
    Don't fear. You are knowing the simple mindedness is on your side, I am surprised by your flood of abusive words at me.

    It is quite peasant to receive hate speech
    from a silly modern leftist.

    Che Guava’s even lost his pseudonym to anon.
     
    The silliest of all. Anon (at times, anyone
    can use it to post) was very different to moi, and would not try to seize my uname, we have a distant but agreeable connection. You are likely too ignorant to know the former handles of the Anon of whom you speak.

    You really do want to expose yourself don’t you? If anyone had time on their hands to take notice and care about your reference to Anon (unstated but on another thread!) they would find that you have
    (a) outed a covert ally which is counterproductive if you want to be taken seriously as an honest contributor to debate,
    (b) not even spelled the “anon” correctly
    (c) most absurdly, treated me, and every other commenter, as failing in some way if we didn’t know who was behind the Anon (sic) tag.

    Further exposure of yourself: “flood of abusive words” – actually about one sentence in one paragraph of a long comment; “hate speech”!!! (It is demeaning to hate fools); “modern leftist” and, previously, “SJW POV” – this is so ludicrously close to the 180° opposite of the truth that you might even do better exhibiting whatever ability you have to answer the points I have made.

    BTW next time you think of again, erroneously, writing of the UR software working perfectly to your taste or for your current point you may care to look at #117 and #118 of James Thompson’s thread headed The Woodley Effect and next time reconsider further exposure of your limitations.

    I withdraw the suggestion that you are a troll. I think a kind and accurate enough description is a slightly wooly opinionated eccentric. I note #32 that you “never use Google” and I see nothing *on this thread* to disprove your assertion, which I nonetheless doubt. What still intrigues me is your ancestral and educational background. Peruvian Japanese perhaps or half Japanese half ? and some education in America? Anyway I am giving your English expression the credit of correctly conveying that you identify as Japanese. As I said I would expect you to be more careful and courteous. But then again there is that matter of “face” and I notice no response except heightened evidence of discomfort on the many occasions on which I have exposed your errors, even thought they were minor and unimportant by any objective standard. Not knowing the meaning of “inter alia” FGS! But you did rather hang your self evaluation on it….

    BTW in case you haven’t by now experienced it, the edit function has taken such a long time to come up that I almost clicked the Publish button twice. So much for your earlier rant that presumed it wasn’t so.

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  157. Che Guava says:

    I must saying, you are not deserving of any reply.

    Have double-posted myself two or three times. no idea what you mean on that point.

    You would be amusing if not so fiercely earnest, without reason.

    Right now, I am listening to Japanese TV, lapanese only.

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  158. iffen says:
    @Tom Welsh
    Not quite. It turns out that Russia has a tiny length of border with North Korea, near Vladivostok. So they could have gone in that way.

    Of course that in no way detracts from Ms Walters' ridiculous ignorance. I wonder if there should be some constitutional provision for removing congresspeople who reveal that they are utterly incompetent to do their job.

    I wonder if there should be some constitutional provision for removing congresspeople who reveal that they are utterly incompetent to do their job.

    Voting, but that seems to be less and less effective as time goes on.

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