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Last Monday The Washington Post featured an op-ed by one Edward Price entitled “I didn’t think I’d ever leave the CIA. But because of Trump, I quit.” I must admit that it was refreshing at first to read something in The Post that did not rush to blame BOTH Trump and Vladimir Putin for everything going wrong in the world but, not to worry, evil Russia was indeed cited a bit farther along in the narrative.

Edward “Ned” Price is a likely lad. He has a nice intense look, clean cut, neat tie, good credentials with a degree in international relations from an unidentified college. He decided on a CIA career fifteen years ago and “work[ed] proudly for Republican and Democratic presidents…” Perhaps not temperamentally cut out to be an operations officer or spy, he claims that “as an analyst…[he] became an expert in terrorist groups and traveled the world to help deter and disrupt attacks.”

Price reports that he was quite happy in his work, because both the Bush and Obama administrations “took the CIA’s input seriously.” He was seconded to the White House in 2014 and pats himself on the back for “having [his] analysis presented to the president and seeing it shape events.”

But that was before the wheels came off the car. Per Price, “I watched in disbelief when, during the third presidential debate, Trump casually cast doubt on the high-confidence conclusion of our 17 intelligence agencies, released that month, that Russia was behind the hacking and release of election-related emails.”

Price was also unhappy with Trump’s admittedly odd speech combined with photo op to the CIA staff on his first full day in office but was particularly peeved over the reorganization of the Nation Security Council (NSC), which excluded the CIA director and the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), but included Stephen Bannon, “who cut his teeth as a media champion of white nationalism.” Even though Price was wrong about the DNI and the White House quickly reversed course on including CIA Director Mike Pompeo as the duplicative DNI position might be eliminated, for Price the message was “It [the White House] has little need for intelligence professionals who, in speaking truth to power, might challenge the ‘America first’ orthodoxy that sees Russia as an ally and Australia as a punching bag.”

Towards the end of his apologia, Edward Price noted that his decision had “nothing to do with politics,” before observing how he served “under President George W. Bush, some of whose policies I also found troubling, and I took part in programs that the Obama administration criticized and ended.”

There is inevitably some concluding drivel about intelligence professionals who deliver “the fruits of their labor-sometimes at the risk of life or limb…” being “accorded due deference” by the White house, an amusing commentary from a careerist who clearly spent his time behind a desk.

There are a few things one might say about Price. First of all, his “nothing to do with politics” is pure balderdash. He found Bush policies “troubling” while the clearly more admirable Obama “criticized and ended” the nasty bits. Yes, Bush authorized the use of torture and renditions initially after 9/11 but they were de facto suspended in his second term. And while Bush presented the American people with Iraq, Obama gifted us with Libya and Syria while continuing Afghanistan. And Price was at CIA while the organization was surreptitiously monitoring the Senate Intelligence Committees investigation into its torture program. He was willing to continuing working for the Agency after the spying and the war crime that it was trying to hide was revealed but suddenly found Jesus or a backbone or a conscience (select whichever one applies) only when Trump was elected.

Ned appears to forget that it was Bush who demurred at killing civilians en masse using drones and Obama who has embraced and expanded the practice. Obama also initiated the assassination of U.S. citizens overseas without due process and used the State Secrets Privilege more than all his predecessors combined to block any judicial challenge to his actions. Apparently, Price considered all that to be just fine since it was a liberal Democrat at the controls. And, by the way, Price is on record as having contributed $5,000 to the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. He is a registered Democrat in the District of Columbia. His characterization of Steve Bannon as a “white nationalist” and mention of the “Russian hack” come straight out of the Hillary Clinton campaign’s playbook and the more recent Democratic Party narrative to explain why it lost the election.

And there’s more. Price’s rapid rise through the Agency ranks came after his assignment to the Obama White House where he worked for deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes and became an administration spokesman on the NSC. That means he was not exactly a highly principled intelligence briefer “speaking truth to power,” which is itself a bullshit feel good expression as the CIA has a long history of trimming facts to please the audience, most particularly the president. Price should do a little background reading on what former leading Agency analysts Robert Gates, John McLaughlin, Michael Morell and John Brennan dissimulated about to make the client in the White House happy.

Ned Price was apparently renowned as a White House apologist working to sell a product to a possibly skeptical audience. He was reportedly a highly regarded spin-meister for administration policies, working a well-cultivated group of media contacts that would replay his analysis and attribute it to “a senior White House official.” The analysis would bounce back and forth until it was picked up and validated by appearance in the mainstream media. That used to be called by some “information management” while others would regard it as propaganda.

And then there are the errors in fact and interpretation that Price provides to make his case against Trump. The alleged “conclusion” regarding Russian hacking of the election was really based on the input of the only two intelligence agencies that have the capability to analyze and trace the origin of a hack – the NSA and the FBI. The FBI had to be pressured into agreeing with the conclusions of the report Price cites and the NSA supported them only with “moderate” confidence, meaning that it recognized that the evidence linking the hack to Russia just wasn’t there. Many former intelligence officers and some in the media have questioned the validity of the report and have demanded to see at least some of the evidence to support its conclusions, which, to this date, has not been produced.

Price’s account of the Trump reorganization of the National Security Council also is incorrect. The reorganization states “The Director of National Intelligence…will attend where issues pertaining to [his] responsibilities and expertise are to be discussed.” So the DNI was included and Price fails to recognize that after the DNI position was created under George W. Bush he or she was to be the intelligence referent and the CIA Director no longer filled that role and was excluded. That practice continued under Obama, which Price ignores even though he worked on the NSC, and he also does not note that the CIA and FBI Directors often have, in fact, joined in on the NSC “Principals” meetings as a courtesy. If the office of DNI is eliminated in the current reorganization, the head of CIA will step up and assume those responsibilities in the new structure, so the intelligence community is not in any sense being pushed out.

Price aside, I don’t know how many, if any, CIA officers have resigned recently either for ethical reasons or out of dislike for Trump. But if some have, I would hope they had better rationalizations for doing so than were produced in the op-ed, which is reduced to anti-Russian sentiment, dismay at government reorganization and longing for the good old days when a liberal Democrat who was able to lie very convincingly was running the show. I would have preferred an Edward Price op-ed explaining how he had resigned over a real issue, like the bipartisan unrelenting pressure on Iran that could easily lead to war, or the continuing practice of drone assassinations and special ops killings, like the recent raid in Yemen in which 15 women and children, including an eight year old, died. Still, even lacking that, I get it. Ned Price just doesn’t like Trump very much.

 
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  1. I believe exactly one substantive thing in Price’s op-ed—that he quit because of Trump.

    Thank you, President Trump!

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  2. My gut feeling based on his picture and his voice/demeanor, Price seems to be a member of the Lavender Mafia.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/editorial/why-i-left-the-cia-there-is-a-strong-feeling-of-demoralization-under-trump/2017/02/20/e99462e2-f54a-11e6-9fb1-2d8f3fc9c0ed_video.html

    He worked for Democrat campaigns prior to entering politics. One of my first hunches if a white collar white guy is very enthusiastic about the Democrats, is that it’s probably because he’s gay.

    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/02/21/cia-analyst-quits-over-trump-ath.cnn

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    • Agree: Z-man, TheBoom
    • Replies: @Z-man
    He and 'lavender' Lindsey Graham would get along splendidly. LOL!!!
  3. Edward “Ned” Price is a likely lad. He has a nice intense look, clean cut, neat tie, good credentials with a degree in international relations from an unidentified college.

    In the picture above, he resembles Lee Harvey Oswald.

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    • Replies: @Sparkon
    Your "powers of observation" here are noteworthy.

    Indeed, one cannot help but notice that the placement of this "troubled CIA agent's" eyes above his nose, which in turn is above his mouth, is breathtakingly similar to the placement of Oswald's eyes, nose, and mouth in exactly the same configuration.

    Nice catch, overlooking for the occasion the fact that Edward Price looks nothing like Lee Harvey Oswald, except as noted.
  4. Excellent hatchet job and that’s what was needed.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava

    Excellent hatchet job and that's what was needed.
     
    Wiz, that statement is not clear at all. Would guess, on your past form, that this treacherous chinless chap, who worked as a party op. in a place that is supposed to be above party politics, is to be congratulated according to you.
  5. Trump should do what Kennedy threatened to do before being assassinated. Retire every last one of those CIA degenerates. Shut it down. Expose the fact that they colluded/participated in the 9/11 attacks.
    The CIA is NO FRIEND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. By any measure of decency it is treason writ large.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    JFK was not an antiwar peacenick..he was a WAR CRIMINAL...should have been indicted..convicted of War Crimes...then a noose around his creepy Irish neck...legs kicking spastically....
    , @ThereisaGod
    War Criminal ? .... because of the Bay of Pigs? Or because he opposed giving a nuclear weapon to Israel? Or because he was about to take the US out of Vietnam? Or because he attacked the Mafia? Or said he wanted to break the CIA into a thousand pieces? Or because he started printing debt-free money? Or because he condemned secret power as "unAmerican"?
    "creepy Irish neck"? "Legs kicking spastically"? Hmmm
    Am I addressing a beautiful soul?
    .... or one spastic with irrational hatred?
  6. Just look to see where he lands … That will tell you volumes.

    As for his affirming SIGINT / COMSEC intercepts in the US, since when was CIA ever equipped to comment on that? NSA probably had a low confidence because they would have been the originating agency. My money is on that now deceased Seth Richards having walked out of the DNC with the “intercepted” emails on a flash drive.

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  7. My money is on that now deceased Seth Richards having walked out of the DNC with the “intercepted” emails on a flash drive.

    You probably meant Seth Rich.

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  8. @ThereisaGod
    Trump should do what Kennedy threatened to do before being assassinated. Retire every last one of those CIA degenerates. Shut it down. Expose the fact that they colluded/participated in the 9/11 attacks.
    The CIA is NO FRIEND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. By any measure of decency it is treason writ large.

    JFK was not an antiwar peacenick..he was a WAR CRIMINAL…should have been indicted..convicted of War Crimes…then a noose around his creepy Irish neck…legs kicking spastically….

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    • Replies: @Paul C.
    If you were to get carpal tunnel syndrome and couldn't use a keyboard, that wouldn't suck.
  9. Price aside, I don’t know how many, if any, CIA officers have resigned recently either for ethical reasons…

    Let me take a stab at that.

    The likelihood of any government agent doing anything for ethical reasons is approximately zero. But they’re all high minded, self sacrificing heroes; just ask ‘em.

    Gawd, the flakes just keep pouring outta the sewers.

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  10. @Wizard of Oz
    Excellent hatchet job and that's what was needed.

    Excellent hatchet job and that’s what was needed.

    Wiz, that statement is not clear at all. Would guess, on your past form, that this treacherous chinless chap, who worked as a party op. in a place that is supposed to be above party politics, is to be congratulated according to you.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    A concise compliment to PG - obviously. What muddle in your mind has found anything favourable to Price?
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    So he left his job, so what, this country is full of unemployed people. No one should ever leave a job because once they have it they should stay forever? Like a lot of people he seems to inflate his worth and the value he added. This calls into question the hiring practices they’ve had and exactly who and what they’ve been taking on board. Also, considering the recent Yemen raid, has the US been running a Murder Inc operation? More needs to be looked at regarding the sleazy goings on with this agency. If we really have seventeen intelligence agencies then that seems to be way too many. How much is being spent for all of them and what are we getting for our money? Perhaps a Stansfield Turner type is needed to overhaul things. Since they spy on Congress and the president they’re a danger to democracy in that they possibly-or probably-blackmail them. This particular individual appears to be dishonest and one might wonder about how many people like him are embedded within these agencies.

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  12. @ThereisaGod
    Trump should do what Kennedy threatened to do before being assassinated. Retire every last one of those CIA degenerates. Shut it down. Expose the fact that they colluded/participated in the 9/11 attacks.
    The CIA is NO FRIEND OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. By any measure of decency it is treason writ large.

    War Criminal ? …. because of the Bay of Pigs? Or because he opposed giving a nuclear weapon to Israel? Or because he was about to take the US out of Vietnam? Or because he attacked the Mafia? Or said he wanted to break the CIA into a thousand pieces? Or because he started printing debt-free money? Or because he condemned secret power as “unAmerican”?
    “creepy Irish neck”? “Legs kicking spastically”? Hmmm
    Am I addressing a beautiful soul?
    …. or one spastic with irrational hatred?

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  13. As a retired CIA operations officer who spent most of his career overseas, in many assignments working against very real terrorists, I am disgusted by this punk desk jockey Price. I saw his type all over the Agency, even (shamefully) an occasional operations officer was a liberal Democrat. Without exception they were men and women utterly lacking character, patriotism (though they would indignantly dispute that), loyalty and honor. They were the first to falsely rat out a fellow officer to curry favor with the politicians running the outfit, the first to jump on the affirmative action and “diversity” bandwagon (which meant that the people doing the heavy lifting in the field were left behind while the whiners and incompetents at headquarters moved ahead) and they sabotaged programs they did not like, such as efforts to fight Communist terrorists. I hope Trump takes a flamethrower to the Agency and clears out every last one of them.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Thank you for your service, Sir.
    Your words confirm the obvious: the current system has been selecting the opportunists and ignoramuses, the "comfort women and men" for the "deciders" of Cheney-Clinton kind. They have been driven by a paycheck alone.
    , @Ivan K.
    One of your sentences is grammatically problematic and open to different interpretations: this one:

    I saw his type all over the Agency, even (shamefully) an occasional operations officer was a liberal Democrat.
     
    N.B. You aren't obliged to clarify.
  14. @Che Guava

    Excellent hatchet job and that's what was needed.
     
    Wiz, that statement is not clear at all. Would guess, on your past form, that this treacherous chinless chap, who worked as a party op. in a place that is supposed to be above party politics, is to be congratulated according to you.

    A concise compliment to PG – obviously. What muddle in your mind has found anything favourable to Price?

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    You must expressing your thoughts with ciarity. You never do. Can not. I pity your sub-normal level. Sorry for you.
    , @Sparkon
    In American English, a "hatchet job" usually means a rough, all-out, and possibly unfair attack on someone to destroy him. In the media, an approximate synonym might be "hit piece."

    In more general terms, the expression can also mean a botched job of any kind.

    The related expression "hatchet man" for example, was previously used in basketball to identify a scrub, or benchwarmer, whose main job in limited playing time was to commit hard fouls on one of the opposing team's best players. Later, when the game was changed, hatchet-men evolved into "enforcers

    In more general terms, a hatchet-man is a flunky who does the dirty work - a hatchet-job on the opposition.

    My take is that Mr. Giraldi's article about Edward Price is neither hatchet job, nor hit piece, but rather accurate analysis, and pointed criticism.

  15. This story is so contrived that it is amusing. Does he really think people believe that CIA agents have integrity? I am under the impression that agents do not reveal themselves so why did he create a media circus? What possible impact does this have on the CIA or the country.

    Apparently he believes that somebody will be upset that this highly principled person is no longer part of the Federal Government.

    Looks like a more “fake” news.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Actually, this looks like another propaganda show for the fervent ideologues and half-wits.
    More on the same from Thierry Meyssan: "The Clinton system to discredit Donald Trump" http://www.voltairenet.org/article195455.html
    "The campaign waged against the new President of the United States by the sponsors of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and the destruction of the Greater Middle East is on-going. ... In order to convince US public opinion of the President’s insanity – a man who says that he hopes for peace with his enemies, and wants to collaborate with them in universal economic prosperity - one of the greatest specialists of agit-prop (agitation & propaganda), David Brock, set up an impressive system even before Trump’s investiture... The National Review qualified Brock as «a right-wing assassin who has become a left-wing assassin.»
    We can be sure that there is nothing personal between David Brock and the new president. This is all about proper renumeration for a talented Mr. Brock.
    Apparently, the rage of the "deciders" has been provoked by the idea of peaceful coexistence. Not profitable. Hence the deafening noise of multi-variant propaganda.
    What is so curious is the sudden mobilization of entertainment industry (from soft-porn Madonna to supposedly highbrow Streep and between) against Trump. What are those mighty strings that make the Kimmels and Cloonies and Dunhams and such suddenly discover that the root of all evil is Trump's attempts at avoiding the WWIII? There is obviously a club, and the membership requires certain flexibility from the members.
  16. @Chris Bridges
    As a retired CIA operations officer who spent most of his career overseas, in many assignments working against very real terrorists, I am disgusted by this punk desk jockey Price. I saw his type all over the Agency, even (shamefully) an occasional operations officer was a liberal Democrat. Without exception they were men and women utterly lacking character, patriotism (though they would indignantly dispute that), loyalty and honor. They were the first to falsely rat out a fellow officer to curry favor with the politicians running the outfit, the first to jump on the affirmative action and "diversity" bandwagon (which meant that the people doing the heavy lifting in the field were left behind while the whiners and incompetents at headquarters moved ahead) and they sabotaged programs they did not like, such as efforts to fight Communist terrorists. I hope Trump takes a flamethrower to the Agency and clears out every last one of them.

    Thank you for your service, Sir.
    Your words confirm the obvious: the current system has been selecting the opportunists and ignoramuses, the “comfort women and men” for the “deciders” of Cheney-Clinton kind. They have been driven by a paycheck alone.

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  17. Has the cuck look Roger Waters warned us about, the school master type that goes home to be beaten by his fat and psychotic wife within inches of his life….that or incel for his whole life. A power hungry ectomorphic , over compensating propagandist is also reminiscent of Goebbels. He has the look of a man recently penetrated and raped but ready to stab Caesar himself.

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  18. So Mr Giraldi agrees with Michael Scheuer that it is primarily Democrat operatives appointed by Obama who are causing the trouble? I greatly enjoyed Scheuer’s interview on RT the other day, sort of blunt talk that would cause a US television studio to implode. Still worried for Trump, also caught a bit about of Mossad’s Juval Aviv fantasising about impeaching Trump because Russia, the Israelis still order far too many US politicians around to dismiss such talk out of hand, God knows the media would cheer it on. It would be nice if the US intelligence community could have Trump’s back.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/378702-trump-media-cia-influence/

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  19. A very good sign. If Trump is going to do what is obviously very necessary in the light of the clearly corrupt and politically partisan nature of the US intelligence community, then there are going to be quite a few more like this.

    It’s going to take quite a few flushes to clear this one.

    “It [the White House] has little need for intelligence professionals who, in speaking truth to power, might challenge the ‘America first’ orthodoxy that sees Russia as an ally and Australia as a punching bag.”

    Well if he thinks “America First” is an inappropriate philosophy for a US President, then he shouldn’t be working in the US security business.

    If he thinks Russia is actually an enemy of the US for any reason other than foolish US policy choices, then he’s too stupid or deluded to be working anywhere related to foreign policy at a senior level.

    And if he’s going to claim that a deliberately misreported telephone conversation is “seeing Australia as a punching bag”, then he’s too dishonest to be trusted anywhere in government.

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  20. @fuzzylogix
    This story is so contrived that it is amusing. Does he really think people believe that CIA agents have integrity? I am under the impression that agents do not reveal themselves so why did he create a media circus? What possible impact does this have on the CIA or the country.

    Apparently he believes that somebody will be upset that this highly principled person is no longer part of the Federal Government.

    Looks like a more "fake" news.

    Actually, this looks like another propaganda show for the fervent ideologues and half-wits.
    More on the same from Thierry Meyssan: “The Clinton system to discredit Donald Trump” http://www.voltairenet.org/article195455.html
    “The campaign waged against the new President of the United States by the sponsors of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and the destruction of the Greater Middle East is on-going. … In order to convince US public opinion of the President’s insanity – a man who says that he hopes for peace with his enemies, and wants to collaborate with them in universal economic prosperity – one of the greatest specialists of agit-prop (agitation & propaganda), David Brock, set up an impressive system even before Trump’s investiture… The National Review qualified Brock as «a right-wing assassin who has become a left-wing assassin.»
    We can be sure that there is nothing personal between David Brock and the new president. This is all about proper renumeration for a talented Mr. Brock.
    Apparently, the rage of the “deciders” has been provoked by the idea of peaceful coexistence. Not profitable. Hence the deafening noise of multi-variant propaganda.
    What is so curious is the sudden mobilization of entertainment industry (from soft-porn Madonna to supposedly highbrow Streep and between) against Trump. What are those mighty strings that make the Kimmels and Cloonies and Dunhams and such suddenly discover that the root of all evil is Trump’s attempts at avoiding the WWIII? There is obviously a club, and the membership requires certain flexibility from the members.

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  21. @PiltdownMan

    Edward “Ned” Price is a likely lad. He has a nice intense look, clean cut, neat tie, good credentials with a degree in international relations from an unidentified college.
     
    In the picture above, he resembles Lee Harvey Oswald.

    Your “powers of observation” here are noteworthy.

    Indeed, one cannot help but notice that the placement of this “troubled CIA agent’s” eyes above his nose, which in turn is above his mouth, is breathtakingly similar to the placement of Oswald’s eyes, nose, and mouth in exactly the same configuration.

    Nice catch, overlooking for the occasion the fact that Edward Price looks nothing like Lee Harvey Oswald, except as noted.

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  22. @Wizard of Oz
    A concise compliment to PG - obviously. What muddle in your mind has found anything favourable to Price?

    You must expressing your thoughts with ciarity. You never do. Can not. I pity your sub-normal level. Sorry for you.

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  23. What gives with the CIA? I was brought up to think the agency was filled with skilled multi-linguists who were crack shots with a handgun, gritty guys who would live in the bush in Guatemala next to oversized killer tse-tse flies. Now with this guy and the loathsome Evan McMullin, I see they’re soft, low-T snowflakes who look like they’ve never been in a fistfight. I guess this is useful in a way, ‘cos it shows that Trump’s apparent disgust for them is fully justified.

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    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    Somebody on one of these web-sites said there were 4 million people in the "intelligence community". If true how many are really operatives in the field. How many are just desk jockeys waiting for retirement? Remember Wanda Sykes said she worked at the NSA.
  24. @Chris Bridges
    As a retired CIA operations officer who spent most of his career overseas, in many assignments working against very real terrorists, I am disgusted by this punk desk jockey Price. I saw his type all over the Agency, even (shamefully) an occasional operations officer was a liberal Democrat. Without exception they were men and women utterly lacking character, patriotism (though they would indignantly dispute that), loyalty and honor. They were the first to falsely rat out a fellow officer to curry favor with the politicians running the outfit, the first to jump on the affirmative action and "diversity" bandwagon (which meant that the people doing the heavy lifting in the field were left behind while the whiners and incompetents at headquarters moved ahead) and they sabotaged programs they did not like, such as efforts to fight Communist terrorists. I hope Trump takes a flamethrower to the Agency and clears out every last one of them.

    One of your sentences is grammatically problematic and open to different interpretations: this one:

    I saw his type all over the Agency, even (shamefully) an occasional operations officer was a liberal Democrat.

    N.B. You aren’t obliged to clarify.

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  25. @Wizard of Oz
    A concise compliment to PG - obviously. What muddle in your mind has found anything favourable to Price?

    In American English, a “hatchet job” usually means a rough, all-out, and possibly unfair attack on someone to destroy him. In the media, an approximate synonym might be “hit piece.”

    In more general terms, the expression can also mean a botched job of any kind.

    The related expression “hatchet man” for example, was previously used in basketball to identify a scrub, or benchwarmer, whose main job in limited playing time was to commit hard fouls on one of the opposing team’s best players. Later, when the game was changed, hatchet-men evolved into “enforcers

    In more general terms, a hatchet-man is a flunky who does the dirty work – a hatchet-job on the opposition.

    My take is that Mr. Giraldi’s article about Edward Price is neither hatchet job, nor hit piece, but rather accurate analysis, and pointed criticism.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    A quick Google check suggests you may be wrong about "American usage" because the majority of my first page results merely support my intended "vigorous written denunciation intended to damage or deatroy someone's reputation". However I can see that the mental picture of a hatchet and someone swinging it repeatedly to perform the intended destruction could suggest something rough and crude to some readers. So... instead of relying on my concluding words to make sure that the muddleheaded Che Guavas weren't confused I might have preceded "hatchet job" with "upmarket". But I didn't have CG's inadequacies and resentments (yes, I think I have shown my supercilous aspect to him) in mind when I sought to pay a succinct compliment to PG. May "hatchet job" suggest a touch of malice? Indeed and I don't imagine PG would deny a faint hope that he mighr inflict some pain on Price.
  26. The CIA is more than a bit like Saturday Night Live – both went on way too longer and neither is really focused on the here and now and neither is particularly funny.

    The CIA was created after World War II to counter Soviet intelligence, fight the Communists. The Cold War is long over, we won. The Warsaw Pact has been dissolved. Unless you’re addicted to bad Rambo movies where Johnny Rambo and the American spooks are joining Afghan Jihadists to fight the Russians (there’s more of these idiots than is safe), it’s pretty clear to any sane, healthy Western European American that the Russians should be our allies against 3rd world Islamists. Russian foreign policy in the Middle East is what I want, what Pat Buchanan and now President Trump want us to do.

    Russian young woman are also hot.

    OK, seems look pretty clear to me so I recommend abolishing the CIA and turning over foreign intelligence including the NSA to regular army, navy, air force intelligence. Something similar was done when Stalin died and the regular Soviet/Russian army took over the KGB had monsters like Levantia Beria killed.

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    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov

    Stalin died and the regular Soviet/Russian army took over the KGB had monsters like Levantia Beria killed.
     
    This sounds like... I never heard this version before.;-)
  27. @Anonym
    My gut feeling based on his picture and his voice/demeanor, Price seems to be a member of the Lavender Mafia.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/editorial/why-i-left-the-cia-there-is-a-strong-feeling-of-demoralization-under-trump/2017/02/20/e99462e2-f54a-11e6-9fb1-2d8f3fc9c0ed_video.html

    He worked for Democrat campaigns prior to entering politics. One of my first hunches if a white collar white guy is very enthusiastic about the Democrats, is that it's probably because he's gay.

    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/02/21/cia-analyst-quits-over-trump-ath.cnn

    He and ‘lavender’ Lindsey Graham would get along splendidly. LOL!!!

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  28. @War for Blair Mountain
    JFK was not an antiwar peacenick..he was a WAR CRIMINAL...should have been indicted..convicted of War Crimes...then a noose around his creepy Irish neck...legs kicking spastically....

    If you were to get carpal tunnel syndrome and couldn’t use a keyboard, that wouldn’t suck.

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  29. Phil,

    What do you think of Robert Steele’s assertion that Reince Priebus is a mole -and a wrecker- set in place by the Republican establishment?

    A White House staff meeting was called to address leaking from same staff. News of the meeting was immediately leaked!

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    Priebus is definitely a minder placed on Trump to ensure good behavior but I don't know if he's smart enough to be a mole. I would think there are people inside the White House reporting directly to John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who seem to be taking the lead on bringing the administration down.
  30. @RobinG
    Phil,

    What do you think of Robert Steele's assertion that Reince Priebus is a mole -and a wrecker- set in place by the Republican establishment?

    A White House staff meeting was called to address leaking from same staff. News of the meeting was immediately leaked!

    Priebus is definitely a minder placed on Trump to ensure good behavior but I don’t know if he’s smart enough to be a mole. I would think there are people inside the White House reporting directly to John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who seem to be taking the lead on bringing the administration down.

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    • Replies: @chris
    ok, but that just begs the question about whose pulling their strings, because those two are definitely too stupid to be running the whole operation.

    I've always suspected that it should be fairly easy to find out who's running the whole show by checking McCain an Graham's meeting schedule, because those two imbeciles must really be kept on a very tight leash by the deep state and must constantly be fed their next talking point.

    (Absolutely excellent take-down of this ass, Price! Thanks Phil!)

  31. January 30, 2017 The CIA’s “Deep State”, Donald Trump and His “War on Terrorism”

    Donald Trump’s first act as president was a visit to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, where he addressed gathering of CIA employees. His journey directly in “the swamp” took place almost immediately after his inauguration, and was clearly an urgent first priority.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cia-trump-and-his-war-on-terrorism/5571722

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  32. @mcohen
    jesus ron you re famous.you made the list.


    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/11/23/20161125_prop2.jpg

    what is that list for?

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    • Replies: @mcohen
    the list is the names of all websites that are used to post pro russian propaganda.they are also sites that constantly post blatant jew hatred through the comments section.personally i have only heard of a few including unz.these sites also have a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites
    the second phase is physical attacks on jews and jewish institutions outside israel.similar to what has happened in france,england,and now the usa.this is to spread the idea that physical attacks are the norm.this combined with the message that israel must be punished along with its supporters is propagated on a daily basis.
    the final phase will be a war on israel itself in 2017.unfortunately this will lead to an all out destruction of many countries.
    the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender based on the similar stratetgy used by world powers on south africa will have severe consequences for russia and its leaders.the attempt by the usa to use russia to force a political compromise on israel if not administered fairly will backfire
    today in south africa president zuma declared the anc will begin confiscating land from white farmers and paying them out.this will be the litmus test of fairness
  33. @Philip Giraldi
    Priebus is definitely a minder placed on Trump to ensure good behavior but I don't know if he's smart enough to be a mole. I would think there are people inside the White House reporting directly to John McCain and Lindsey Graham, who seem to be taking the lead on bringing the administration down.

    ok, but that just begs the question about whose pulling their strings, because those two are definitely too stupid to be running the whole operation.

    I’ve always suspected that it should be fairly easy to find out who’s running the whole show by checking McCain an Graham’s meeting schedule, because those two imbeciles must really be kept on a very tight leash by the deep state and must constantly be fed their next talking point.

    (Absolutely excellent take-down of this ass, Price! Thanks Phil!)

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  34. One quick question, Phil: is there a reason why you left out Tenet out of this illustrious roster? He would seem to be the poster-child for your argument.

    “Price should do a little background reading on what former leading Agency analysts Robert Gates, John McLaughlin, Michael Morell and John Brennan dissimulated about to make the client in the White House happy.”

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    • Replies: @Philip Giraldi
    Tenet was not an intelligence officer. He was an intelligence committee staffer before he was elevated. He never worked as either a spy or an analyst. But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted.
  35. @chris
    One quick question, Phil: is there a reason why you left out Tenet out of this illustrious roster? He would seem to be the poster-child for your argument.

    "Price should do a little background reading on what former leading Agency analysts Robert Gates, John McLaughlin, Michael Morell and John Brennan dissimulated about to make the client in the White House happy."
     

    Tenet was not an intelligence officer. He was an intelligence committee staffer before he was elevated. He never worked as either a spy or an analyst. But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted.

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    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov

    Tenet was not an intelligence officer.
     
    Shelepin and Semichastny both KGB Chairmen were flesh and blood of Party cadre system. Some parallels seem reasonable.
    , @Chuck Orloski
    "(Tenet) But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted."

    Mr. Giraldi,

    I know you're very busy, but I am wondering if you had time to read P.C.R.'s article below? Regrettably, a Troubled CIA Director Found Satan.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/27/resurrection-armageddon-paul-craig-roberts/
  36. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @jack ryan
    The CIA is more than a bit like Saturday Night Live - both went on way too longer and neither is really focused on the here and now and neither is particularly funny.

    The CIA was created after World War II to counter Soviet intelligence, fight the Communists. The Cold War is long over, we won. The Warsaw Pact has been dissolved. Unless you're addicted to bad Rambo movies where Johnny Rambo and the American spooks are joining Afghan Jihadists to fight the Russians (there's more of these idiots than is safe), it's pretty clear to any sane, healthy Western European American that the Russians should be our allies against 3rd world Islamists. Russian foreign policy in the Middle East is what I want, what Pat Buchanan and now President Trump want us to do.

    Russian young woman are also hot.

    OK, seems look pretty clear to me so I recommend abolishing the CIA and turning over foreign intelligence including the NSA to regular army, navy, air force intelligence. Something similar was done when Stalin died and the regular Soviet/Russian army took over the KGB had monsters like Levantia Beria killed.

    Stalin died and the regular Soviet/Russian army took over the KGB had monsters like Levantia Beria killed.

    This sounds like… I never heard this version before.;-)

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  37. Andrei Martyanov [AKA "SmoothieX12"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Philip Giraldi
    Tenet was not an intelligence officer. He was an intelligence committee staffer before he was elevated. He never worked as either a spy or an analyst. But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted.

    Tenet was not an intelligence officer.

    Shelepin and Semichastny both KGB Chairmen were flesh and blood of Party cadre system. Some parallels seem reasonable.

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  38. @Che Guava
    You must expressing your thoughts with ciarity. You never do. Can not. I pity your sub-normal level. Sorry for you.

    Have you heard of pots and kettles?

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    No. I saw passing reference to the words on early Wikipedia, but was not thinking it meant anything. Pray tell me about this fascinating concept and how it is applicable to my earlier comment.
  39. @Sparkon
    In American English, a "hatchet job" usually means a rough, all-out, and possibly unfair attack on someone to destroy him. In the media, an approximate synonym might be "hit piece."

    In more general terms, the expression can also mean a botched job of any kind.

    The related expression "hatchet man" for example, was previously used in basketball to identify a scrub, or benchwarmer, whose main job in limited playing time was to commit hard fouls on one of the opposing team's best players. Later, when the game was changed, hatchet-men evolved into "enforcers

    In more general terms, a hatchet-man is a flunky who does the dirty work - a hatchet-job on the opposition.

    My take is that Mr. Giraldi's article about Edward Price is neither hatchet job, nor hit piece, but rather accurate analysis, and pointed criticism.

    A quick Google check suggests you may be wrong about “American usage” because the majority of my first page results merely support my intended “vigorous written denunciation intended to damage or deatroy someone’s reputation”. However I can see that the mental picture of a hatchet and someone swinging it repeatedly to perform the intended destruction could suggest something rough and crude to some readers. So… instead of relying on my concluding words to make sure that the muddleheaded Che Guavas weren’t confused I might have preceded “hatchet job” with “upmarket”. But I didn’t have CG’s inadequacies and resentments (yes, I think I have shown my supercilous aspect to him) in mind when I sought to pay a succinct compliment to PG. May “hatchet job” suggest a touch of malice? Indeed and I don’t imagine PG would deny a faint hope that he mighr inflict some pain on Price.

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    • Replies: @Sparkon
    The point is that "hatchet job" is not a complimentary term in American English under any circumstances.

    If praising Mr. Giraldi's criticism of Price was your intention, I'd think a skilled wordsmith like yourself would be able to plumb the depths of his vast vocabulary, and find precise terms of praise not only more elegant and gracious, but also less subject to misinterpretation.
  40. He was willing to continuing working for the Agency after the spying and the war crime that it was trying to hide was revealed but suddenly found Jesus or a backbone or a conscience (select whichever one applies) only when Trump was elected.

    Trump probably found a socialist/disloyal (but, I repeat myself) skeleton in his closet, and cashiered him.

    Ned Price was apparently renowned as a White House apologist working to sell a product to a possibly skeptical audience. He was reportedly a highly regarded spin-meister for administration policies, working a well-cultivated group of media contacts that would replay his analysis and attribute it to “a senior White House official.” The analysis would bounce back and forth until it was picked up and validated by appearance in the mainstream media. That used to be called by some “information management” while others would regard it as propaganda.

    Bingo!

    He quit on the run, because he was about to be caught and cashiered. Don’t be surprised if there’s more spin to come on this particular narrative. This may just be the opening salvo, with more “getting out ahead of things” to come from Price.

    Many former intelligence officers and some in the media have questioned the validity of the report and have demanded to see at least some of the evidence to support its conclusions, which, to this date, has not been produced.

    You mean they don’t trust spies? Wow, just wow.

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  41. @Philip Giraldi
    Tenet was not an intelligence officer. He was an intelligence committee staffer before he was elevated. He never worked as either a spy or an analyst. But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted.

    “(Tenet) But he was a liar who would say and do anything the man in charge wanted.”

    Mr. Giraldi,

    I know you’re very busy, but I am wondering if you had time to read P.C.R.’s article below? Regrettably, a Troubled CIA Director Found Satan.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/02/27/resurrection-armageddon-paul-craig-roberts/

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  42. Just look to see where he lands … That will tell you volumes.

    This.

    I hope Trump takes a flamethrower to the Agency and clears out every last one of them.

    From your lips to God’s ears.

    What gives with the CIA? I was brought up to think the agency was filled with skilled multi-linguists who were crack shots with a handgun, gritty guys who would live in the bush in Guatemala next to oversized killer tse-tse flies. Now with this guy and the loathsome Evan McMullin, I see they’re soft, low-T snowflakes who look like they’ve never been in a fistfight. I guess this is useful in a way, ‘cos it shows that Trump’s apparent disgust for them is fully justified.

    I figured a long time ago that they were mostly pencil-pushers and networking types who called in spec ops snake-eaters any time the job called for physical hardship. Not they couldn’t permanently add the latter to the rolls, I suppose.

    I’ve always suspected that it should be fairly easy to find out who’s running the whole show by checking McCain an Graham’s meeting schedule, because those two imbeciles must really be kept on a very tight leash by the deep state and must constantly be fed their next talking point.

    It’s well-known that Zionists own Lyndsie Gayham. It’s a moral certainty that they own McInsane, too, but I don’t have that one in writing.

    By “owned by Zionists,” I mean in comparison to the normal “owned by Zionists” pols that occupy the hill.

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  43. London Bob, thanks for that link. I wish the transcription was competent – it’s riddled with errors.

    I bet a lot of leftist heads are exploding over that one. Good to see men can still be passed through the CIA and emerge willing to point out that even the American security apparatus is now riddled with affirmative action hacks, degenerates, homos, trannies, etc.

    I have to wonder, not for the first time, if Scheuer is Jewish. Even if he is, he’s got some big brass balls:

    The American Congress is really owned, more or less, by the Israelis, less by the Israelis than by Jewish American citizens here in the U.S. They say, you know, “jump”, and the American Congress almost to a person says: “how high?”. That’s a very hard nut to crack.

    I know I looked into whether he’s Jewish or not, but I can’t remember what I turned up. I don’t remember the results being conclusive, but that they indicated he isn’t. Seems to defy many years of experience, though: Whites with Scheuer’s sort of pedigree just don’t say stuff like that.

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  44. Is There More to the Flynn Story?

    A strange resignation in a UK intelligence service suggests U.S. partners may have been involved.

    By PHILIP GIRALDI • February 28, 2017

    The American media is ignoring a story from London about the abrupt resignation of Robert Hannigan, the head of Britain’s highly secretive Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), which is the codebreaking equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). Hannigan’s resignation on January 23 surprised everyone, with only a few hours’ notice provided to his staff.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/is-there-more-to-the-flynn-story/

    Another great article from PHILIP GIRALDI.

    Peace — Art

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  45. @Wizard of Oz
    A quick Google check suggests you may be wrong about "American usage" because the majority of my first page results merely support my intended "vigorous written denunciation intended to damage or deatroy someone's reputation". However I can see that the mental picture of a hatchet and someone swinging it repeatedly to perform the intended destruction could suggest something rough and crude to some readers. So... instead of relying on my concluding words to make sure that the muddleheaded Che Guavas weren't confused I might have preceded "hatchet job" with "upmarket". But I didn't have CG's inadequacies and resentments (yes, I think I have shown my supercilous aspect to him) in mind when I sought to pay a succinct compliment to PG. May "hatchet job" suggest a touch of malice? Indeed and I don't imagine PG would deny a faint hope that he mighr inflict some pain on Price.

    The point is that “hatchet job” is not a complimentary term in American English under any circumstances.

    If praising Mr. Giraldi’s criticism of Price was your intention, I’d think a skilled wordsmith like yourself would be able to plumb the depths of his vast vocabulary, and find precise terms of praise not only more elegant and gracious, but also less subject to misinterpretation.

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    With respect to your native feeling for American usage...

    1. the expression "hatchet job" is prima facie neutral as between complimentary and critical and depends on context for the correct connotation. The context in this case, the whole sentence, is unambiguously complimentary. Cp. "You belong to Torquemada's team PG. You roasted hom slowly and I salute you with my golden crucifix".

    2. You must be a nice person** who doesn't inhabit either literary or political circles where, at least until recently in the world of literary reviews, "hatchet man" and "hatchet job" have been simple factual descriptions carrying no necessary negative connotation wrt thw wielder of the hatchet. Cf. "White House hatchet man - and he's proud to be just that."

    **admittedly the average American is probably a lot more polite than the average Brit or Aussie. A close relative of mine said "Of course. Wouldn't you be polite if you thought your interlocutor might be carrying a gun?" Three cheers for the Second Amendment.

  46. Look deeper and you will find he recently payed off his mortgage or received a legacy. People don’t give up good jobs unless they can afford it.

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  47. @Sparkon
    The point is that "hatchet job" is not a complimentary term in American English under any circumstances.

    If praising Mr. Giraldi's criticism of Price was your intention, I'd think a skilled wordsmith like yourself would be able to plumb the depths of his vast vocabulary, and find precise terms of praise not only more elegant and gracious, but also less subject to misinterpretation.

    With respect to your native feeling for American usage…

    1. the expression “hatchet job” is prima facie neutral as between complimentary and critical and depends on context for the correct connotation. The context in this case, the whole sentence, is unambiguously complimentary. Cp. “You belong to Torquemada’s team PG. You roasted hom slowly and I salute you with my golden crucifix”.

    2. You must be a nice person** who doesn’t inhabit either literary or political circles where, at least until recently in the world of literary reviews, “hatchet man” and “hatchet job” have been simple factual descriptions carrying no necessary negative connotation wrt thw wielder of the hatchet. Cf. “White House hatchet man – and he’s proud to be just that.”

    **admittedly the average American is probably a lot more polite than the average Brit or Aussie. A close relative of mine said “Of course. Wouldn’t you be polite if you thought your interlocutor might be carrying a gun?” Three cheers for the Second Amendment.

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  48. Wiz, “hatchet man” and “hatchet job” are indeed generally negative. But not so negative that no circumstance could ever call for either, or that either could never be used positively.

    Sort of like how mercy’s usually a good thing, until it isn’t.

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  49. @Wade
    what is that list for?

    the list is the names of all websites that are used to post pro russian propaganda.they are also sites that constantly post blatant jew hatred through the comments section.personally i have only heard of a few including unz.these sites also have a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites
    the second phase is physical attacks on jews and jewish institutions outside israel.similar to what has happened in france,england,and now the usa.this is to spread the idea that physical attacks are the norm.this combined with the message that israel must be punished along with its supporters is propagated on a daily basis.
    the final phase will be a war on israel itself in 2017.unfortunately this will lead to an all out destruction of many countries.
    the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender based on the similar stratetgy used by world powers on south africa will have severe consequences for russia and its leaders.the attempt by the usa to use russia to force a political compromise on israel if not administered fairly will backfire
    today in south africa president zuma declared the anc will begin confiscating land from white farmers and paying them out.this will be the litmus test of fairness

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Armageddon in 2017? Not possible, the temple is not even under construction.

    this is part of a first phase attack on jews

    Then again it might all be false flag to shore up support for Jews and Israel.

    The Jew-haters say this all the time.

    You know about blind pigs, don't you?

    Of course pigs use their sense of smell, so the blind part doesn't really mean that much, but that is another conspiracy for another day.
    , @annamaria
    "... the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender ..."
    Could you be more specific about Russia forcing Israel to "retreat and surrender?"
    What retreat? - From the Syrian Golan Height, in the name of which the Israelis have been helping ISIS and destroying Syria?
    What about the "surrender? " - You mean the Russian attempts at stopping the spread of fanatical Islam near her borders? It is not for nothing that Saudis are known as the bosom buddies of Israelis. The US Congress has authorized the arming of both the "moderate" jihadis in the Middle East and "freedom fighters" of neo-Nazi persuasion in Ukraine, on advice of the leading ziocons. Is not Kagans' clan a staunch supporter of the despicable warmonger Clinton ("we came, we saw, he died")?
    How about $15 million per/day "relocated" from the US taxpayers' pockets to the Israeli citizens' pockets? Still not enough? Perhaps this (and other ways the ziocons and Israel-firsters treat the US and EU citizenry) could be the cause of "a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations."
    Your post is filled with whining and screaming over alleged Jewish victimization. Here are some facts for you: the power Mrs. Nuland-Kagan, a pupil of Cheney and progeny of east European jews, has been working hand in glove with Ukrainian neo-Nazis (remember Babi Yar?) Her comrade Mrs. Freeland, a Minister of International Trade of Canada, happened to be both the ideological and biologic progeny of a real Nazi (https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/27/a-nazi-skeleton-in-the-family-closet/). Mr. Fleeland, similar to you, is a rabid Russophobe. Your countryman (actually he has three citizenship), Mr. Kolomojsky, a leader of Ukrainian Jewish Community, had been financing neo-Nazi thugs that arranged an auto-ca-fe of civilians in Odessa... In short, how about the innocent non-Jewish people being the victims of Jewish misdeeds?
    And one another minor detail: you are mistaking the factual information for propaganda. You should better continue reading the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal to feel comfortable, and stay away from any factual information re Russian federation, Middle East, and Ukraine. Otherwise, the facts and the well- deserved criticism of warmongering ziocons would leave you feel victimized again and again.
    , @MarkinLA
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites

    It might help Jews if for just 5 minutes I don't see Schumer and Adam Schiff's face whining about Trump and Russia till I get sick of hearing about it.
  50. The Nedstser is just a lefty prog and SJW posing as a highly professional and dispassionate intelligence analyst. I must say that ol’ Ned does kind of look like a pencil necked fag. Trump is a great friend to homosexuals and even gave them a shout out at his Republican conventions acceptance speech, so his lifestyle is safe under a Trump presidency.

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  51. @mcohen
    the list is the names of all websites that are used to post pro russian propaganda.they are also sites that constantly post blatant jew hatred through the comments section.personally i have only heard of a few including unz.these sites also have a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites
    the second phase is physical attacks on jews and jewish institutions outside israel.similar to what has happened in france,england,and now the usa.this is to spread the idea that physical attacks are the norm.this combined with the message that israel must be punished along with its supporters is propagated on a daily basis.
    the final phase will be a war on israel itself in 2017.unfortunately this will lead to an all out destruction of many countries.
    the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender based on the similar stratetgy used by world powers on south africa will have severe consequences for russia and its leaders.the attempt by the usa to use russia to force a political compromise on israel if not administered fairly will backfire
    today in south africa president zuma declared the anc will begin confiscating land from white farmers and paying them out.this will be the litmus test of fairness

    Armageddon in 2017? Not possible, the temple is not even under construction.

    this is part of a first phase attack on jews

    Then again it might all be false flag to shore up support for Jews and Israel.

    The Jew-haters say this all the time.

    You know about blind pigs, don’t you?

    Of course pigs use their sense of smell, so the blind part doesn’t really mean that much, but that is another conspiracy for another day.

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    • Replies: @mcohen
    Conspiracy theories add to the entertainment.fake news is the new new news.
  52. All those Jewish head stones toppled over…and they never find the perpetrators? False flag, they’re experts at it!

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    I was thinking about that today as NPR interviewed the director of some Jewish center. He kept demanding an investigation into the "more than 90" bomb threats such centers in the US had received since January. It seems incredible that not one person making those threats could be tracked down simply using caller ID.

    Also on NPR a couple of days ago, the subject of this piece said that Trump's head obscuring the star at CIA HQ memorializing some female officer killed in the line of duty was a decisive moment for him. He realized he couldn't serve a man who would obscure such a relic, even for a moment. It was very touching.

  53. Behind the Liberal Embrace of Trump’s Speech

    I can’t say I’m surprised by the liberal turn on Trump. I said a couple of weeks ago that Trump and the establishment media were like George and Martha in “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” What I meant was that they are a deranged, destructive couple who argue like mad, but ultimately collude to destroy others. So, anger and hate give way to insidious bond and admiration in how they each fulfill their roles in the larger manipulative project.

    So, Van Jones is admiring of Trump now really “becoming the President” because of Trump’s emotional manipulation in the person of Carryn Owens. Jones did this because he’s a triangulator himself and because he is very much part of the continuing imperial project.

    Some of this rather reminds me of how the media used Jessica Lynch to pretended she was in danger to continue selling the invasion of Iraq at a critical moment in 2003. The actual scandals are pushed aside: The criminal invasion of Iraq then; the US-backed Saudi destruction of Yemen now.

    Disinformation and emotional manipulation for the privileged “race” of USians is the order of the day. Feminism and femininity are weaponized as all emotion is focused on one person to the exclusion of the suffering of others. I imagine it’s how The Passion Plays were used to fuel hatred of Jews; it’s how Israel uses the Nazi Holocaust to excuse all its criminality.

    The other major such manipulation last night was highlighting African American “victims” of public schools and “illegal immigrants”. This allows Trump to ridiculously pose as an anti-racist xenophobe. As Martin Luther King warned in his final days: “We’re integrating into a burning house.”

    https://husseini.posthaven.com/behind-the-liberal-embrace-of-trumps-speech

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  54. this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.

    Still a long way to go before we’re reciprocating the Jewish war on Whites and Western Civilization. And Jews will have to end their war and sit there and take their lumps for about 50 years, for parity to be reached.

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  55. @iffen
    Armageddon in 2017? Not possible, the temple is not even under construction.

    this is part of a first phase attack on jews

    Then again it might all be false flag to shore up support for Jews and Israel.

    The Jew-haters say this all the time.

    You know about blind pigs, don't you?

    Of course pigs use their sense of smell, so the blind part doesn't really mean that much, but that is another conspiracy for another day.

    Conspiracy theories add to the entertainment.fake news is the new new news.

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  56. @mcohen
    the list is the names of all websites that are used to post pro russian propaganda.they are also sites that constantly post blatant jew hatred through the comments section.personally i have only heard of a few including unz.these sites also have a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites
    the second phase is physical attacks on jews and jewish institutions outside israel.similar to what has happened in france,england,and now the usa.this is to spread the idea that physical attacks are the norm.this combined with the message that israel must be punished along with its supporters is propagated on a daily basis.
    the final phase will be a war on israel itself in 2017.unfortunately this will lead to an all out destruction of many countries.
    the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender based on the similar stratetgy used by world powers on south africa will have severe consequences for russia and its leaders.the attempt by the usa to use russia to force a political compromise on israel if not administered fairly will backfire
    today in south africa president zuma declared the anc will begin confiscating land from white farmers and paying them out.this will be the litmus test of fairness

    “… the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender …”
    Could you be more specific about Russia forcing Israel to “retreat and surrender?”
    What retreat? – From the Syrian Golan Height, in the name of which the Israelis have been helping ISIS and destroying Syria?
    What about the “surrender? ” – You mean the Russian attempts at stopping the spread of fanatical Islam near her borders? It is not for nothing that Saudis are known as the bosom buddies of Israelis. The US Congress has authorized the arming of both the “moderate” jihadis in the Middle East and “freedom fighters” of neo-Nazi persuasion in Ukraine, on advice of the leading ziocons. Is not Kagans’ clan a staunch supporter of the despicable warmonger Clinton (“we came, we saw, he died”)?
    How about $15 million per/day “relocated” from the US taxpayers’ pockets to the Israeli citizens’ pockets? Still not enough? Perhaps this (and other ways the ziocons and Israel-firsters treat the US and EU citizenry) could be the cause of “a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.”
    Your post is filled with whining and screaming over alleged Jewish victimization. Here are some facts for you: the power Mrs. Nuland-Kagan, a pupil of Cheney and progeny of east European jews, has been working hand in glove with Ukrainian neo-Nazis (remember Babi Yar?) Her comrade Mrs. Freeland, a Minister of International Trade of Canada, happened to be both the ideological and biologic progeny of a real Nazi (https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/27/a-nazi-skeleton-in-the-family-closet/). Mr. Fleeland, similar to you, is a rabid Russophobe. Your countryman (actually he has three citizenship), Mr. Kolomojsky, a leader of Ukrainian Jewish Community, had been financing neo-Nazi thugs that arranged an auto-ca-fe of civilians in Odessa… In short, how about the innocent non-Jewish people being the victims of Jewish misdeeds?
    And one another minor detail: you are mistaking the factual information for propaganda. You should better continue reading the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal to feel comfortable, and stay away from any factual information re Russian federation, Middle East, and Ukraine. Otherwise, the facts and the well- deserved criticism of warmongering ziocons would leave you feel victimized again and again.

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    And one other thing yfw

    The site consortium news is on the list you provided of fake Russian news.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/11/23/20161125_prop2.jpg
  57. You want me to be more specific.for nothing.no payments?it is people like you who give minor prophets a hard time demanding information for free on the internet.
    Strategic is $4000
    Business is $7500
    Personal is $1800
    All in us dollar and limited to one incident.if I am wrong you get full refund.I have no bias,take no side,have no interest in your affairs.feel free to contact me anytime on unz.

    Peace-israel

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    I like it but which comment were you replying to?

    BTW is it not splendid chutzpah to go on about there never having been (scil. in the last 2000 years I suppose) a Palestinian people or nation? Wasn't the point of Zionism that there wasn"t a Jewish nation and that there were people calling themselves Jews - far more heterogeneous than a lot of Arab olive growers plus assorted religious odd bods and a handful of professionals - and that they had enough troubles with neighbours to allow them to be persuaded they were Jews with a Jerusalem centred promised land? I proffered an Israeli-Australian Uber driver the idea that maybe there hadn't been a Palestinian people until one was created from 1947 by Israel and his reply was to say it was not 1947 but 1967.

  58. @annamaria
    "... the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender ..."
    Could you be more specific about Russia forcing Israel to "retreat and surrender?"
    What retreat? - From the Syrian Golan Height, in the name of which the Israelis have been helping ISIS and destroying Syria?
    What about the "surrender? " - You mean the Russian attempts at stopping the spread of fanatical Islam near her borders? It is not for nothing that Saudis are known as the bosom buddies of Israelis. The US Congress has authorized the arming of both the "moderate" jihadis in the Middle East and "freedom fighters" of neo-Nazi persuasion in Ukraine, on advice of the leading ziocons. Is not Kagans' clan a staunch supporter of the despicable warmonger Clinton ("we came, we saw, he died")?
    How about $15 million per/day "relocated" from the US taxpayers' pockets to the Israeli citizens' pockets? Still not enough? Perhaps this (and other ways the ziocons and Israel-firsters treat the US and EU citizenry) could be the cause of "a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations."
    Your post is filled with whining and screaming over alleged Jewish victimization. Here are some facts for you: the power Mrs. Nuland-Kagan, a pupil of Cheney and progeny of east European jews, has been working hand in glove with Ukrainian neo-Nazis (remember Babi Yar?) Her comrade Mrs. Freeland, a Minister of International Trade of Canada, happened to be both the ideological and biologic progeny of a real Nazi (https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/27/a-nazi-skeleton-in-the-family-closet/). Mr. Fleeland, similar to you, is a rabid Russophobe. Your countryman (actually he has three citizenship), Mr. Kolomojsky, a leader of Ukrainian Jewish Community, had been financing neo-Nazi thugs that arranged an auto-ca-fe of civilians in Odessa... In short, how about the innocent non-Jewish people being the victims of Jewish misdeeds?
    And one another minor detail: you are mistaking the factual information for propaganda. You should better continue reading the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal to feel comfortable, and stay away from any factual information re Russian federation, Middle East, and Ukraine. Otherwise, the facts and the well- deserved criticism of warmongering ziocons would leave you feel victimized again and again.

    And one other thing yfw

    The site consortium news is on the list you provided of fake Russian news.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/11/23/20161125_prop2.jpg

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    You mean that the Consortium.com does not abide the CIA dictate?
    Btw, my post did have a mistake: the US citizenry "donates" $15 millions to Israel monthly, not daily. Still a lot of money.
    In case you are offended by the obvious insult from the Kagans' clan to the memory of victims of WWII, there are other facts showing unequivocally the Nuland-Kagan fraternization with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. - Dare to dispute this?
    The same with Kolomojsky; it does not take much time to find information on his financing of Ukrainian neo-Nazi.
    You also could find on your own the speeches of Israeli brass, in which ISIS is named as a better solution to Israeli problems than a peaceful Syria. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/june/22/israeli-intel-chief-we-don-t-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a "strong anti zionist slant," and "victimization" of Jewish people?
    , @annamaria
    "...to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews..."

    How would you qualify the unstoppable show of the war-mongering Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, Kagans and more of the same on the MSM? Why do the ziocons do everything in their power to condition the US citizenry to a deep animosity towards their incessant war-mongering and Israel-firsting? Considering that the Lobby has been breaking all rules of decency by supporting the violations of international law (plus the malignant influence of the Lobby on western democracies), the tribalists should stop whining about anitisemitism. Enough already. And stop abusing the US citizenry at large with a noise from the Anti-Defamation League that overlooked, miraculously, the State Dept. collaboration with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The mythologists need to make a choice of primary loyalty either to the country of their residence (the US or UK) or to their mythological "promised land."

  59. @Z-man
    All those Jewish head stones toppled over...and they never find the perpetrators? False flag, they're experts at it!

    I was thinking about that today as NPR interviewed the director of some Jewish center. He kept demanding an investigation into the “more than 90″ bomb threats such centers in the US had received since January. It seems incredible that not one person making those threats could be tracked down simply using caller ID.

    Also on NPR a couple of days ago, the subject of this piece said that Trump’s head obscuring the star at CIA HQ memorializing some female officer killed in the line of duty was a decisive moment for him. He realized he couldn’t serve a man who would obscure such a relic, even for a moment. It was very touching.

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    "He realized he couldn’t serve a man who would obscure such a relic, even for a moment. It was very touching." LOL!!
  60. @mcohen
    And one other thing yfw

    The site consortium news is on the list you provided of fake Russian news.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/11/23/20161125_prop2.jpg

    You mean that the Consortium.com does not abide the CIA dictate?
    Btw, my post did have a mistake: the US citizenry “donates” $15 millions to Israel monthly, not daily. Still a lot of money.
    In case you are offended by the obvious insult from the Kagans’ clan to the memory of victims of WWII, there are other facts showing unequivocally the Nuland-Kagan fraternization with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. – Dare to dispute this?
    The same with Kolomojsky; it does not take much time to find information on his financing of Ukrainian neo-Nazi.
    You also could find on your own the speeches of Israeli brass, in which ISIS is named as a better solution to Israeli problems than a peaceful Syria. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/june/22/israeli-intel-chief-we-don-t-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a “strong anti zionist slant,” and “victimization” of Jewish people?

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    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a “strong anti zionist slant,” and “victimization” of Jewish people?
     
    Don't you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are. You say I srael has Nuclear Weapon,....anti-semitic. Jews control Americans-----Anti-semiticism.

    The list goes on.

    By the way, in addition to the $3.8 billion aide that Israel gets from the US, Israel also get loans that it never pays back.
    , @RobinG
    You were more right on the money the first time.

    U.S. "aid" to Israel has been $3B/year, or $8.22Million/day.
    [On top of this, there's a couple $$B. in "loans" that are never called in.]

    But Obama increased this, to $38Billion over ten years.
    So that's $3.8B/year, or over $10Million of our tax dollars per day.

    The kicker is, they have a healthy economy and don't even need it. Choose your cause, we could do better with that cash here at home.

    , @mcohen
    the money comes from jewish sources.i thought you knew that.the rothschilds alone earn 10 million dollars a month.its all paid for up front in cash.billionaires donating billions of dollars monthly.

    then there are donations from worldwide.billions of dollars monthly

    the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka.i alone donated millions a month till i lost it all on a little red donkey.thought i was a profit but turned out i was a loss.
    +/- the 27 the march 2017.disaster china.

    peace-israel

  61. @David
    I was thinking about that today as NPR interviewed the director of some Jewish center. He kept demanding an investigation into the "more than 90" bomb threats such centers in the US had received since January. It seems incredible that not one person making those threats could be tracked down simply using caller ID.

    Also on NPR a couple of days ago, the subject of this piece said that Trump's head obscuring the star at CIA HQ memorializing some female officer killed in the line of duty was a decisive moment for him. He realized he couldn't serve a man who would obscure such a relic, even for a moment. It was very touching.

    “He realized he couldn’t serve a man who would obscure such a relic, even for a moment. It was very touching.” LOL!!

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  62. I was thinking about that today as NPR interviewed the director of some Jewish center. He kept demanding an investigation into the “more than 90″ bomb threats such centers in the US had received since January. It seems incredible that not one person making those threats could be tracked down simply using caller ID.

    Well, if it was a paid ex-Mossad provocateur (for example), I’m sure he knows how to mask his trail…

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  63. @annamaria
    You mean that the Consortium.com does not abide the CIA dictate?
    Btw, my post did have a mistake: the US citizenry "donates" $15 millions to Israel monthly, not daily. Still a lot of money.
    In case you are offended by the obvious insult from the Kagans' clan to the memory of victims of WWII, there are other facts showing unequivocally the Nuland-Kagan fraternization with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. - Dare to dispute this?
    The same with Kolomojsky; it does not take much time to find information on his financing of Ukrainian neo-Nazi.
    You also could find on your own the speeches of Israeli brass, in which ISIS is named as a better solution to Israeli problems than a peaceful Syria. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/june/22/israeli-intel-chief-we-don-t-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a "strong anti zionist slant," and "victimization" of Jewish people?

    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a “strong anti zionist slant,” and “victimization” of Jewish people?

    Don’t you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are. You say I srael has Nuclear Weapon,….anti-semitic. Jews control Americans—–Anti-semiticism.

    The list goes on.

    By the way, in addition to the $3.8 billion aide that Israel gets from the US, Israel also get loans that it never pays back.

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    MEexpert to annamaria: "Don't you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are?"

    Dear MEexpert,

    Given Sam Shama's stinking up the sophomoric article by Ilana Mercer, I thought I'd defect & enter here at your wise comment.

    Humbly, I want to give my comment a title: A TROUBLED ISRAELI ANALYST FINDS UIGHUR-JIHADIS TERROR THREAT.

    Please follow me for a moment, MEexpert?

    In today's Wall Street Journal, page A7, there's a weird article called "Uighurs Threaten Attacks in ISIS Video," written by Te-Ping Chen. Below, I will transcribe a portion of the article for you and others, including author, Philip Giraldi.

    "An Islamic State video APPEARS (my emphasis) to show recruits from China's Uighur minority threatening to 'avenge oppression,' feeding into Beijing's assertion of a growing jihadist terror threat threat."

    Te-Ping's next paragraph: "The half-hour video was released Monday by an Islamic State division in western Iraq, said the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors online jihadist activity. Subtitled in both Arabic and Uighur, it shows what SITE says are Uighur fighters on the battlefield, as well as several grisly executions of accused informants."

    Trying to reason with Sam Shama (on the shallow I. Mercer article) has done serious injury to my patience & charity, so I Google-searched "SITE Intelligence Group" and learned that it is a "for profit, Maryland-based company, led by the Israeli analyst, Rita Katz."

    "Shazam," said Gomer Pyle, and please refer to SITE Intelligence Group profile, below?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Intelligence_Group

    Your comment # 65 accurately asserts "Jews control Americans" and it APPEARS (my emphasis) that patriotic Chinese better head out the Forbidden City gate right now, because the heavily armed & dangerous Goldman Sachs Group pivot is headed Far East.

    Selah.
  64. @annamaria
    You mean that the Consortium.com does not abide the CIA dictate?
    Btw, my post did have a mistake: the US citizenry "donates" $15 millions to Israel monthly, not daily. Still a lot of money.
    In case you are offended by the obvious insult from the Kagans' clan to the memory of victims of WWII, there are other facts showing unequivocally the Nuland-Kagan fraternization with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. - Dare to dispute this?
    The same with Kolomojsky; it does not take much time to find information on his financing of Ukrainian neo-Nazi.
    You also could find on your own the speeches of Israeli brass, in which ISIS is named as a better solution to Israeli problems than a peaceful Syria. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/june/22/israeli-intel-chief-we-don-t-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a "strong anti zionist slant," and "victimization" of Jewish people?

    You were more right on the money the first time.

    U.S. “aid” to Israel has been $3B/year, or $8.22Million/day.
    [On top of this, there's a couple $$B. in "loans" that are never called in.]

    But Obama increased this, to $38Billion over ten years.
    So that’s $3.8B/year, or over $10Million of our tax dollars per day.

    The kicker is, they have a healthy economy and don’t even need it. Choose your cause, we could do better with that cash here at home.

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  65. @annamaria
    You mean that the Consortium.com does not abide the CIA dictate?
    Btw, my post did have a mistake: the US citizenry "donates" $15 millions to Israel monthly, not daily. Still a lot of money.
    In case you are offended by the obvious insult from the Kagans' clan to the memory of victims of WWII, there are other facts showing unequivocally the Nuland-Kagan fraternization with Ukrainian neo-Nazis. - Dare to dispute this?
    The same with Kolomojsky; it does not take much time to find information on his financing of Ukrainian neo-Nazi.
    You also could find on your own the speeches of Israeli brass, in which ISIS is named as a better solution to Israeli problems than a peaceful Syria. http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/peace-and-prosperity/2016/june/22/israeli-intel-chief-we-don-t-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/
    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a "strong anti zionist slant," and "victimization" of Jewish people?

    the money comes from jewish sources.i thought you knew that.the rothschilds alone earn 10 million dollars a month.its all paid for up front in cash.billionaires donating billions of dollars monthly.

    then there are donations from worldwide.billions of dollars monthly

    the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka.i alone donated millions a month till i lost it all on a little red donkey.thought i was a profit but turned out i was a loss.
    +/- the 27 the march 2017.disaster china.

    peace-israel

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    "...the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka... the money comes from jewish source."
    You mean, the Congressional approval and the inevitable irritation by the US citizenry have been running by the design of the "jewish sources?"
    Re-read your post again and, please, try to infuse at least a modicum of reason.
  66. […] Troubled CIA Analyst Finds Jesus” (Giraldi; comments are […]

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  67. All that heroin the CIA has been running out of Afghan poppy fields, protected by US troops, should of made this clown wealthy, so maybe he’s going into business for himself, selling an illegal substance?

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  68. @mcohen
    the money comes from jewish sources.i thought you knew that.the rothschilds alone earn 10 million dollars a month.its all paid for up front in cash.billionaires donating billions of dollars monthly.

    then there are donations from worldwide.billions of dollars monthly

    the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka.i alone donated millions a month till i lost it all on a little red donkey.thought i was a profit but turned out i was a loss.
    +/- the 27 the march 2017.disaster china.

    peace-israel

    “…the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka… the money comes from jewish source.”
    You mean, the Congressional approval and the inevitable irritation by the US citizenry have been running by the design of the “jewish sources?”
    Re-read your post again and, please, try to infuse at least a modicum of reason.

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    annam

    sjs....a division of ipjsoc gathers the pilgrims and wealth.they have been around a long time.they are the real power.follow the money is my recomendation to you.

    there are 3 different levels of the dollar.those printed in america,those printed abroad,and those printed and sold for trade by ipjsoc.aid comes from level 3.

  69. @Wizard of Oz
    Have you heard of pots and kettles?

    No. I saw passing reference to the words on early Wikipedia, but was not thinking it meant anything. Pray tell me about this fascinating concept and how it is applicable to my earlier comment.

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    I think I'll stick to conversation with people whose English literacy is more than basic. I wouldn't be so implicitly critical but for your intemperate presumption that anything you don't understand is not clearly enough expressed.
  70. @MEexpert

    Or you believe that mentioning all these ugly facts is a sign of antisemitism, a “strong anti zionist slant,” and “victimization” of Jewish people?
     
    Don't you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are. You say I srael has Nuclear Weapon,....anti-semitic. Jews control Americans-----Anti-semiticism.

    The list goes on.

    By the way, in addition to the $3.8 billion aide that Israel gets from the US, Israel also get loans that it never pays back.

    MEexpert to annamaria: “Don’t you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are?”

    Dear MEexpert,

    Given Sam Shama’s stinking up the sophomoric article by Ilana Mercer, I thought I’d defect & enter here at your wise comment.

    Humbly, I want to give my comment a title: A TROUBLED ISRAELI ANALYST FINDS UIGHUR-JIHADIS TERROR THREAT.

    Please follow me for a moment, MEexpert?

    In today’s Wall Street Journal, page A7, there’s a weird article called “Uighurs Threaten Attacks in ISIS Video,” written by Te-Ping Chen. Below, I will transcribe a portion of the article for you and others, including author, Philip Giraldi.

    “An Islamic State video APPEARS (my emphasis) to show recruits from China’s Uighur minority threatening to ‘avenge oppression,’ feeding into Beijing’s assertion of a growing jihadist terror threat threat.”

    Te-Ping’s next paragraph: “The half-hour video was released Monday by an Islamic State division in western Iraq, said the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors online jihadist activity. Subtitled in both Arabic and Uighur, it shows what SITE says are Uighur fighters on the battlefield, as well as several grisly executions of accused informants.”

    Trying to reason with Sam Shama (on the shallow I. Mercer article) has done serious injury to my patience & charity, so I Google-searched “SITE Intelligence Group” and learned that it is a “for profit, Maryland-based company, led by the Israeli analyst, Rita Katz.”

    “Shazam,” said Gomer Pyle, and please refer to SITE Intelligence Group profile, below?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Intelligence_Group

    Your comment # 65 accurately asserts “Jews control Americans” and it APPEARS (my emphasis) that patriotic Chinese better head out the Forbidden City gate right now, because the heavily armed & dangerous Goldman Sachs Group pivot is headed Far East.

    Selah.

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    all your chit still does not address the problem china is having.you attack the messenger but ignore the message

    chuck me a waffle.said the gwaffle

    https://www.ft.com/content/ddeb5872-ff1f-11e6-96f8-3700c5664d30

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-china-idUSKBN16848H

    2 more links from 2 other sources yet you chuck chit about the jews.that vast conspiracy out there in space

    chuck chit chit chucker
  71. @Che Guava
    No. I saw passing reference to the words on early Wikipedia, but was not thinking it meant anything. Pray tell me about this fascinating concept and how it is applicable to my earlier comment.

    I think I’ll stick to conversation with people whose English literacy is more than basic. I wouldn’t be so implicitly critical but for your intemperate presumption that anything you don’t understand is not clearly enough expressed.

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    Well, you are lacking the capacity for cleear expression, although you did one post (out of so many) that made sense, i was tempted to praise it, but fortunately recalled the general stupidity you espouse before making the mistake of a word of praise.
  72. “There are a few things one might say about Price. First of all, his ‘nothing to do with politics’ is pure balderdash.”

    And it had nothing to do with Jesus, either.

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  73. @annamaria
    "...the aid crap is just a smokescreen babushka... the money comes from jewish source."
    You mean, the Congressional approval and the inevitable irritation by the US citizenry have been running by the design of the "jewish sources?"
    Re-read your post again and, please, try to infuse at least a modicum of reason.

    annam

    sjs….a division of ipjsoc gathers the pilgrims and wealth.they have been around a long time.they are the real power.follow the money is my recomendation to you.

    there are 3 different levels of the dollar.those printed in america,those printed abroad,and those printed and sold for trade by ipjsoc.aid comes from level 3.

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  74. @Chuck Orloski
    MEexpert to annamaria: "Don't you know the more factual information about Israel you give the more anti-semitic you are?"

    Dear MEexpert,

    Given Sam Shama's stinking up the sophomoric article by Ilana Mercer, I thought I'd defect & enter here at your wise comment.

    Humbly, I want to give my comment a title: A TROUBLED ISRAELI ANALYST FINDS UIGHUR-JIHADIS TERROR THREAT.

    Please follow me for a moment, MEexpert?

    In today's Wall Street Journal, page A7, there's a weird article called "Uighurs Threaten Attacks in ISIS Video," written by Te-Ping Chen. Below, I will transcribe a portion of the article for you and others, including author, Philip Giraldi.

    "An Islamic State video APPEARS (my emphasis) to show recruits from China's Uighur minority threatening to 'avenge oppression,' feeding into Beijing's assertion of a growing jihadist terror threat threat."

    Te-Ping's next paragraph: "The half-hour video was released Monday by an Islamic State division in western Iraq, said the SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors online jihadist activity. Subtitled in both Arabic and Uighur, it shows what SITE says are Uighur fighters on the battlefield, as well as several grisly executions of accused informants."

    Trying to reason with Sam Shama (on the shallow I. Mercer article) has done serious injury to my patience & charity, so I Google-searched "SITE Intelligence Group" and learned that it is a "for profit, Maryland-based company, led by the Israeli analyst, Rita Katz."

    "Shazam," said Gomer Pyle, and please refer to SITE Intelligence Group profile, below?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SITE_Intelligence_Group

    Your comment # 65 accurately asserts "Jews control Americans" and it APPEARS (my emphasis) that patriotic Chinese better head out the Forbidden City gate right now, because the heavily armed & dangerous Goldman Sachs Group pivot is headed Far East.

    Selah.

    all your chit still does not address the problem china is having.you attack the messenger but ignore the message

    chuck me a waffle.said the gwaffle

    https://www.ft.com/content/ddeb5872-ff1f-11e6-96f8-3700c5664d30

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-china-idUSKBN16848H

    2 more links from 2 other sources yet you chuck chit about the jews.that vast conspiracy out there in space

    chuck chit chit chucker

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  75. @Bragadocious
    What gives with the CIA? I was brought up to think the agency was filled with skilled multi-linguists who were crack shots with a handgun, gritty guys who would live in the bush in Guatemala next to oversized killer tse-tse flies. Now with this guy and the loathsome Evan McMullin, I see they're soft, low-T snowflakes who look like they've never been in a fistfight. I guess this is useful in a way, 'cos it shows that Trump's apparent disgust for them is fully justified.

    Somebody on one of these web-sites said there were 4 million people in the “intelligence community”. If true how many are really operatives in the field. How many are just desk jockeys waiting for retirement? Remember Wanda Sykes said she worked at the NSA.

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  76. @mcohen
    the list is the names of all websites that are used to post pro russian propaganda.they are also sites that constantly post blatant jew hatred through the comments section.personally i have only heard of a few including unz.these sites also have a strong anti zionist slant.they are only in english and are aimed mostly at western english speaking populations.
    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites
    the second phase is physical attacks on jews and jewish institutions outside israel.similar to what has happened in france,england,and now the usa.this is to spread the idea that physical attacks are the norm.this combined with the message that israel must be punished along with its supporters is propagated on a daily basis.
    the final phase will be a war on israel itself in 2017.unfortunately this will lead to an all out destruction of many countries.
    the positioning of russian forces in syria and the arming of muslim countries by russia to force israel to retreat and surrender based on the similar stratetgy used by world powers on south africa will have severe consequences for russia and its leaders.the attempt by the usa to use russia to force a political compromise on israel if not administered fairly will backfire
    today in south africa president zuma declared the anc will begin confiscating land from white farmers and paying them out.this will be the litmus test of fairness

    this is part of a first phase attack on jews and israel.mostly to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews are normal and wide spread.the same commenters are commenting on multiple sites

    It might help Jews if for just 5 minutes I don’t see Schumer and Adam Schiff’s face whining about Trump and Russia till I get sick of hearing about it.

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  77. @mcohen
    And one other thing yfw

    The site consortium news is on the list you provided of fake Russian news.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/11/23/20161125_prop2.jpg

    “…to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews…”

    How would you qualify the unstoppable show of the war-mongering Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, Kagans and more of the same on the MSM? Why do the ziocons do everything in their power to condition the US citizenry to a deep animosity towards their incessant war-mongering and Israel-firsting? Considering that the Lobby has been breaking all rules of decency by supporting the violations of international law (plus the malignant influence of the Lobby on western democracies), the tribalists should stop whining about anitisemitism. Enough already. And stop abusing the US citizenry at large with a noise from the Anti-Defamation League that overlooked, miraculously, the State Dept. collaboration with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The mythologists need to make a choice of primary loyalty either to the country of their residence (the US or UK) or to their mythological “promised land.”

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    one other thing annabot.......you say these names.....jewish people i believe

    "war-mongering Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, Kagans "

    but what about their colleagues....the ones that are non jews that have agenda,s of there own....cheney bush etc....are they then the good guys

    you are just a botty with a potty.
  78. they do it in defence of america and europe.the worlds oil resources are in the middle east and the fight for those resources will only escalate in the coming years unless an alternative is found.the combination of relegion,a united arab bloc and control of oil will allow this group to dominate the west.using the jews and israel as a scapegoat is a convenient form of divide and conquer.the riots in sweden,the attacks in france are a clear sign of what is to come.
    if this growing expansion of oil power was solely economic well business is business but it is the baggage that comes with it that is undesirable.oil is destroying this planet.plastic is turning our oceans into poison.we need science and new tech to overcome this danger.the reliance on oil is an addiction the world cannot afford.the oil needs to stop flowing.everything else is irrelevant.
    what happened to the pipeline in dakota.no different to the pipelines coming out of the middle east.they keep flowing regardless of the consequences.
    no oil no bombs no oil no bombs no oil no bombs no oil no bombs no oil no bombs no oil

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  79. @annamaria
    "...to precondition english speaking populations to accept that attacks on jews..."

    How would you qualify the unstoppable show of the war-mongering Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, Kagans and more of the same on the MSM? Why do the ziocons do everything in their power to condition the US citizenry to a deep animosity towards their incessant war-mongering and Israel-firsting? Considering that the Lobby has been breaking all rules of decency by supporting the violations of international law (plus the malignant influence of the Lobby on western democracies), the tribalists should stop whining about anitisemitism. Enough already. And stop abusing the US citizenry at large with a noise from the Anti-Defamation League that overlooked, miraculously, the State Dept. collaboration with neo-Nazis in Ukraine. The mythologists need to make a choice of primary loyalty either to the country of their residence (the US or UK) or to their mythological "promised land."

    one other thing annabot…….you say these names…..jewish people i believe

    “war-mongering Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, Kagans ”

    but what about their colleagues….the ones that are non jews that have agenda,s of there own….cheney bush etc….are they then the good guys

    you are just a botty with a potty.

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  80. Could you do simple math and calculate the percentage of ziocons among the loudest warmongering in the US/UK as compared to the percentage of all other non-Jewish ethnic groups? How do you like this: “Jews make up 2.2% of the American population.” Now think for a sec about PNAC and the thirsty-hungry crowd of Kagans, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, and more of the same, which have been pushing for more wars for mineral resources & Israel & world domination. The ziocons (Israel-firsters and hegemonists) are a voracious parasitoid on the body of western civilization. No doubt that both the US and UK have their non-Jewish monsters striving for power and money by any means. See Blair, McCain, and Cheney and such that have been working synergistically with ziocons on destruction of western civilization.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    The US could afford Israel and a decent life for its own unsmart natives if it wasn't for the rents and lobbyings of the defence industry, the pharmaceutical industry, plaintiffs' lawyers, who/whatever makes US healthcare twice as expensive as it should be as proportion of GDP, Disney and other Copyright extortionists, the biofuel, sugar and other ag industries the US doesn't need, waste of money on lousy so-called education....
  81. @mcohen
    You want me to be more specific.for nothing.no payments?it is people like you who give minor prophets a hard time demanding information for free on the internet.
    Strategic is $4000
    Business is $7500
    Personal is $1800
    All in us dollar and limited to one incident.if I am wrong you get full refund.I have no bias,take no side,have no interest in your affairs.feel free to contact me anytime on unz.

    Peace-israel

    I like it but which comment were you replying to?

    BTW is it not splendid chutzpah to go on about there never having been (scil. in the last 2000 years I suppose) a Palestinian people or nation? Wasn’t the point of Zionism that there wasn”t a Jewish nation and that there were people calling themselves Jews – far more heterogeneous than a lot of Arab olive growers plus assorted religious odd bods and a handful of professionals – and that they had enough troubles with neighbours to allow them to be persuaded they were Jews with a Jerusalem centred promised land? I proffered an Israeli-Australian Uber driver the idea that maybe there hadn’t been a Palestinian people until one was created from 1947 by Israel and his reply was to say it was not 1947 but 1967.

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    oz

    he is right.what he referred to was yasser arafat coining the phrase "palestinian people".a kind of pr marketing ploy.you have to understand that these local arabs were ruled by turks for 100's of years under the ottoman empire.funnily enough it was lord kitchner who did the survey of palestine.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Exploration_Fund

    just a odd little exploring kind of club.
  82. @annamaria
    Could you do simple math and calculate the percentage of ziocons among the loudest warmongering in the US/UK as compared to the percentage of all other non-Jewish ethnic groups? How do you like this: "Jews make up 2.2% of the American population." Now think for a sec about PNAC and the thirsty-hungry crowd of Kagans, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, Ledeen, Blitzer, and more of the same, which have been pushing for more wars for mineral resources & Israel & world domination. The ziocons (Israel-firsters and hegemonists) are a voracious parasitoid on the body of western civilization. No doubt that both the US and UK have their non-Jewish monsters striving for power and money by any means. See Blair, McCain, and Cheney and such that have been working synergistically with ziocons on destruction of western civilization.

    The US could afford Israel and a decent life for its own unsmart natives if it wasn’t for the rents and lobbyings of the defence industry, the pharmaceutical industry, plaintiffs’ lawyers, who/whatever makes US healthcare twice as expensive as it should be as proportion of GDP, Disney and other Copyright extortionists, the biofuel, sugar and other ag industries the US doesn’t need, waste of money on lousy so-called education….

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  83. @Wizard of Oz
    I like it but which comment were you replying to?

    BTW is it not splendid chutzpah to go on about there never having been (scil. in the last 2000 years I suppose) a Palestinian people or nation? Wasn't the point of Zionism that there wasn"t a Jewish nation and that there were people calling themselves Jews - far more heterogeneous than a lot of Arab olive growers plus assorted religious odd bods and a handful of professionals - and that they had enough troubles with neighbours to allow them to be persuaded they were Jews with a Jerusalem centred promised land? I proffered an Israeli-Australian Uber driver the idea that maybe there hadn't been a Palestinian people until one was created from 1947 by Israel and his reply was to say it was not 1947 but 1967.

    oz

    he is right.what he referred to was yasser arafat coining the phrase “palestinian people”.a kind of pr marketing ploy.you have to understand that these local arabs were ruled by turks for 100′s of years under the ottoman empire.funnily enough it was lord kitchner who did the survey of palestine.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Exploration_Fund

    just a odd little exploring kind of club.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    Wiz has my full sympathy on this, there may have been no Palestinian nation under the Ottoman yolk, but what is happening now is very evil, theft of land is so ugly, but standard.

    Thhnk that is so great?

    No, but it is standard procedure for Israel.

    If you don't know that, you are a moron or liar, probably a combo.
  84. @Wizard of Oz
    I think I'll stick to conversation with people whose English literacy is more than basic. I wouldn't be so implicitly critical but for your intemperate presumption that anything you don't understand is not clearly enough expressed.

    Well, you are lacking the capacity for cleear expression, although you did one post (out of so many) that made sense, i was tempted to praise it, but fortunately recalled the general stupidity you espouse before making the mistake of a word of praise.

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  85. @mcohen
    oz

    he is right.what he referred to was yasser arafat coining the phrase "palestinian people".a kind of pr marketing ploy.you have to understand that these local arabs were ruled by turks for 100's of years under the ottoman empire.funnily enough it was lord kitchner who did the survey of palestine.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Exploration_Fund

    just a odd little exploring kind of club.

    Wiz has my full sympathy on this, there may have been no Palestinian nation under the Ottoman yolk, but what is happening now is very evil, theft of land is so ugly, but standard.

    Thhnk that is so great?

    No, but it is standard procedure for Israel.

    If you don’t know that, you are a moron or liar, probably a combo.

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