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So far the Turkish offensive against “terrorism” has been directed primarily against the PKK Kurdish guerrillas in the mountains of northern Iraq rather than Isis in Syria.

In the first two days of the Turkish campaign it sent only a few planes to bomb Syria while there were 185 air missions against about 400 PKK targets. Turkey says it does not distinguish between Isis and the PKK, which makes it easier to gain international acceptance for resuming the war between the Turkish government and its 15 million-strong Kurdish minority.

In reality, the PKK may not be the most important target for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who last month lost his majority when the largely Kurdish HDP party won six million votes and 13 per cent of the votes. If the HDP can be discredited, or its share of the vote falls below 10 per cent in an election called later this year, then Mr Erdogan will once again have the majority he wants.

In Britain this used to be called “a khaki election” after the notorious general election in 1900 during the Boer War when the Conservatives beat the patriotic drum and demonised the Liberals as unpatriotic and pro-Boer.

Mr Erdogan may be intending a similar electoral campaign later in the year when his AKP party might sweep back to power on a nationalist wave. The HDP would be demonised as PKK collaborators, despite their record as advocates of a long-lasting peace agreement.

The HDP leader Selahattin Demirtas can see how a renewed guerrilla struggle with the PKK might suit Mr Erdogan and the AKP. He told the president: “We are not going to let our young men go to their deaths just to cover up your filthy activities [corruption charges against government ministers].”

Whatever the impact in Syria of Turkey joining the war against Isis, the new policy has reignited the Turkish-Kurd civil war in Turkey. The Nato members who supported Turkey’s actions probably do not care too much about this so long as Turkey cooperates just enough to bring the end of the self-declared caliphate closer and closes the Turkish-Syrian border that has been so easy to cross for foreign volunteers.

One dog that has not barked so far is Isis itself. It has not claimed the suicide bombing at Suruc that killed 32 young Turks on their way to bring aid to the Syrian Kurdish town of Kobani. Isis has also not responded to its positions being bombed by the Turkish air force. Earlier in the week, an Isis spokesman said the first Turkish air strikes had hit only abandoned headquarters buildings.

It may be that Isis calculates that the Turkish government’s actions are primarily directed against the Kurds and the jihadis are only being hit to create a public relations smokescreen. This does not mean that Isis is right, but a Turkish government assault on the PKK, whose Syrian branch, the PYD, is Isis’s most effective military opponent, might be in the interests of the self-declared caliphate.

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The claim by US officials that the use of Turkish air bases will be a “game changer” in the war against Isis is wishful thinking. The problem for the US is that it is entirely dependent on the success of its air campaign. It dare not commit ground troops. But bomb.

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. The traitorous Obama has sold the Kurds out.

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    Are you sided with terrorist YPG, PKK or ISIS???

    you know they are the proxy of Israel...
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  2. Sonic says:

    It is important to note here that the US and the West probably don’t care if the Turks are fighting the Kurds (despite all the assistance that has been given by the Kurds in the fight against ISIS). They are both fighting ISIS and that is all that matters for the west at this point. ISIS itself is fighting everyone (including their own fellow Mujahideen), thereby shooting themselves in the foot again and again. Meanwhile, the US acts as the air force for Iranian proxies in Iraq on one hand, while on the other hand the US is supporting Saudi Arabia’s air force in its bombing campaign against Iranian proxies in Yemen.

    Go back to the Iran Contra affair and remember that the US and Israel provided arms to both sides of the Iraq-Iran war that devastated the region during the 80s. It isn’t hard to figure out that the same game is at play here (although humorously, it is much more out in the open as opposed to covert). If the Empire cannot have a compliant and stable puppet in power…it’ll create chaos and division and help all the various factions fight one another. All the specifics won’t come out until some time in the future, but American actions in places like Vietnam, the CIA’s role in bringing the Shah of Iran to power, and the Contra affair have all come out clearly and squarely.

    A review of centuries of European colonialism (and Patrick mentions a good example indirectly with regards to Britain and how its democracy was used to support an imperial war) will show how western imperial powers used tribalism, ethnicity, religious differences, and so forth, to subdue their subjects with a divide and conquer strategy. These are historical facts and not conspiracy theories. And pointing this out does not in any way contradict with the other reality that such differences did exist well before the colonial era. The disputes were only magnified and exploited by the colonial powers (as opposed to being created by them). Everyone in the Middle East today wants peace and prosperity and security…but no one is willing to give up their attachment to ethnicity, tribe, nation-state, sect, madhab, or manhaj in order to do this. In fairness of course, this region has been invaded by outside powers to a FAR greater extent as compared to other regions (like Europe or Russia or North America or South America). One should always be fair and just in their analysis, thereby keeping a distance from racist and extremist viewpoints.

    Since Muslims will not abandon their religion in the way that western civilization clearly has (which of course, did allow for more unity and prosperity in the west…yet no end to injustice or war), Islam remains the best chance for a unified super-state. Non-Muslim communities will have to accept this and recall that Islam has a long history of tolerance and protection of non-Muslim minority groups so long as this does not forcibly change the beliefs and laws of the majority. When the majority is oppressed (as is the case today throughout the Arab world, Muslim world, and third world…then no one is protected and violence and conflict escalates exponentially). Finally, in mentioning this sort of Islamic setup…I refer to a just, compassionate, and righteous Khalifah. Not a Baathist/Khawarij Khalifah (meaning ISIS) that slaughters its own supporters while being unable to defend its own airspace!

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  3. I agree with Sonic, Muslim cultures are very just, compassionate, and righteous. Provided, of course, that you limit the conversation to those which are just, compassionate, and righteous, and ignore all of those which are not.

    Aye-yi-yi.

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  4. Pacific says:
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    The traitorous Obama has sold the Kurds out.

    Are you sided with terrorist YPG, PKK or ISIS???

    you know they are the proxy of Israel…

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    The US is the only proxy of Israel I am currently "sided with."
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  5. @Pacific
    Are you sided with terrorist YPG, PKK or ISIS???

    you know they are the proxy of Israel...

    The US is the only proxy of Israel I am currently “sided with.”

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    both are a zionest two headed demon that are giving us record numbers of refugees 50 million world wide. with Israel in the Middle East there will never be peace.
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  6. Pacific says:
    @Ozymandias
    The US is the only proxy of Israel I am currently "sided with."

    both are a zionest two headed demon that are giving us record numbers of refugees 50 million world wide. with Israel in the Middle East there will never be peace.

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    "with Israel in the Middle East there will never be peace."

    It's true, prior to the existence of Israel the Middle East was an idyllic paradise replete with peace, love, and understanding.
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  7. Mojo says:

    ISIS makes over $10 million dollars per months by selling people’s stolen oil from Syria to European black market, which the only way out of Syria and closest for the oil to smuggled out is turkey. The only way to export the oil is by trucks via turky, while in Turkish territory, it can be divided to any direction.

    Erdogan regimes been supporting these barbarians from day one, the oil companies mafia gangs both in Europe and in Israel-Saudi Arabia, if they stopped, ISIS would go bankrupt in matter of weeks.

    If USG, the NATO and Turkish Erdogan regim truly fighting these barbarians, they have all kind of tools which can economically stop ISIS, if they truly fight these barbarians they should help all and every nationals that are on the ground fighting these barbarians. The agreement between Erdogan regime and USG with NATO is simply based on continuing support by Erdogan regime for Isis while a safe zone is built by turkey, meanwhile Erdogan regime can attack and kill as much as Kurdish people his bombing campaign can, NATO simply supporting Erdogan regime because Europe is no longer considered as a progressive governing system any longer, which the killing of Kurdish people by Erdogan regime for-hinder Europe to accept such militarism regime being a EU member, now Europe is governed by Neo liberals and Neo fascism which makes it easy for NATO chief to support Turkish government.

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  8. […] that were true. What actually happened when it started its military action against ISIS was this: In the first two days of the Turkish campaign it sent only a few planes to bomb Syria while there … Of the ‘ISIS’ targets that it did bomb in Syria, an ISIS spokesman claimed that the […]

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    both are a zionest two headed demon that are giving us record numbers of refugees 50 million world wide. with Israel in the Middle East there will never be peace.

    “with Israel in the Middle East there will never be peace.”

    It’s true, prior to the existence of Israel the Middle East was an idyllic paradise replete with peace, love, and understanding.

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  10. Sonic says:

    @website & @mojo

    “…It had a lot to answer for in regards to its support of its Islamist brothers in arms across the border…”

    Erdogon is not an Islamist and the government of Turkey cannot be called Islamist. It is a secular government that has stepped back from the extreme secularism as represented by the Kemalists (Ataturkism) while uncovering various conspiracies related to the Turkish deep state that originates from the Turkish military (which considers itself the guardian of Turkish secular democracy). Being slightly more Islamic and ridding some aspects of the secular system that discriminates against religion does not make it Islamist, much less the brother of ISIS’s self-declared Khalifate. While there are different shades and stripes of Islamism…any Islamist would still consider a secular government to be an apostate authority.

    Turkey has been using ISIS (and other Syrian rebel groups) as a counter to both Assad and the PKK for quite some time now. This is common of many countries and an aspect of international affairs. It doesn’t mean that Turkey or anyone else created ISIS or that they are responsible for its emergence. Decades of aerial bombardment and sanctions (the perpetrators of whom are the real “barbarians” here) and eventually, a pre-emptive war of occupation combined with the remnants of Iraqi Baathism, Saddam’s military and intelligence apparatus, Saddam’s Return to Faith Program (al-Hamlah al-Imaniyah), and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s al-Tawhid wal-Jihad organization are the main factors in creating ISIS as it exists today. Even though al-Tawhid wal-Jihad swore allegiance to al-Qaidah at the start of Gulf War 2, it had a more hardline Salafi interpretation and manhaj as compared to al-Qaidah itself. Those differences between al-Qaidah and al-Tawhid wal-Jihad increased after Zarqawi’s (ra) death and the death of various other leaders. This caused al-Qadiah’s central leadership to lose contact with the new leadership of ISI as it was known at that time (and now, with a leadership composed of far more ex-Baathists).

    Blaming Turkish intelligence or Saudi intelligence or oil mafia gangs is a distraction and conspiracy theory. The US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and even Iran would all have preferred a stable state ruled by some sort of strongman who could be controlled…as opposed to chaos and a lack of authority where the border between Iraq and Syria was destroyed (this then inspired the Kurds which now has mobilized Turkey and so forth).

    “…Erdogan sided with the nationalist (racist) MHP who hate the Kurds…”

    I agree there is probably a good deal of racism towards the Kurds in Turkey. But there is a great deal of racism among the Kurds towards non-Kurds as well. Whenever you make a state based on ethnicity (whether Israel or Kurdistan)…then the foundation of that state will always have some degree of racism attached to it. Arab Baathism can also be accused of the same thing. The answer to racism is not secularism and free speech (which protects or incubates racist thought). The answer to racism is Islam, which unites the tribes and nations of the world (so long as one is truly following Islam and not following their desires and rewriting or incorrectly implementing the rulings of Islam based on their desires which is one of the attributes of the Khawarij sect) under the banner of the One who created all of us (regardless of language, culture, or skin tone). Under the banner of Monotheism.

    Prophet Muhammad (saaws) said (in the Farewell Sermon): “All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; A White has no superiority over a Black nor does a Black have any superiority over a White…except in piety and good deeds”

    I agree with rest of the analysis from the Eye on Turkey Blog, but it is the foundational principles of the modern Turkish state as well as a theoretical Kurdish state that must be opposed (I’m not sure if the author of that blog would agree). For centuries, Turkmen, Kurds, Arabs, Jews, and others were united under the Khalifah (even though non-Muslims had an additional tax to pay). They will not be united now, post colonialism, as separate republics; or by NATO; or under the UN; or through secular democracy.

    and Allah knows best.

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    Jibrish ideas and deceptive philosophy. In one hand you are talking about ISIS being created by this or that in the other you are talking about the political instrests of Turkey where Erdogan regime uses ISIS and etc.

    Kurdish people who been fighting the Erdogan regime and a military Turkish regime have ideology where as your saying there are no such thing but pure political garbage discerned to eliminate the guilt. Kurdish people been killed, as Israeli been killing Palestinians in last 65 years, beside all the historic proof, why would Erdogan regime support such barbaric stone aged caliphate regime when he knows he can make a long lasting peace with Kurdish people even with PKK. Erdogan playing it both ways when it comes to his modernized yet islamic dictatorial regime which is not different from when Turkey was ruled by militarism with Turkish racist elements from far right, why would he do that beside wanting to secure his political position?

    In regard to Turkish Erdogan regime being modernized there is no argument, but that docent mean that the system and its functionality is based on the principals of democracy, cooperating with ISIS alone proves that fact. Cooperating, supporting with barbarism, no matter their creation or their social political statue, they are barbarians and for a "democratic" system cooperating with such regime it shows that such cooperation is based on a falsified and deceptive democracy.

    Isis was created as a buffer zone for Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon to create a political, economic, cultural unity, Israel, USG, Turkey, Saudis Arabia and EU present governing systems didn't like the idea; for eliminating or limiting such unity they created ISIS which the Turkish Erdogan regime was given the responsibility as military, economic logistical supporter for ISIS to advance, otherwise all young and inexperience european youth and others who inter Syria can not build a military regime with ideology as barbarism, in the beginning they were trained by CIA, later by Jordanian, later by Turkey according to documents, whereas result ISIS was borne. ISIS is used by Turkish Erdogan undemocratic, yet another Islamic dictatorial regime to kill people with 2015 ideology not an stone aged ideas that have no clue about earth not being flat, the ideology is based on peoples freedom and integrity, people self-reliant where they can keep their culture and their mother tung, where they can be proud of their heritage and not be puppet to either EU, Saudi Arabia or USG.

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  11. Mojo says:
    @Sonic
    @website & @mojo

    "...It had a lot to answer for in regards to its support of its Islamist brothers in arms across the border..."

    Erdogon is not an Islamist and the government of Turkey cannot be called Islamist. It is a secular government that has stepped back from the extreme secularism as represented by the Kemalists (Ataturkism) while uncovering various conspiracies related to the Turkish deep state that originates from the Turkish military (which considers itself the guardian of Turkish secular democracy). Being slightly more Islamic and ridding some aspects of the secular system that discriminates against religion does not make it Islamist, much less the brother of ISIS’s self-declared Khalifate. While there are different shades and stripes of Islamism...any Islamist would still consider a secular government to be an apostate authority.

    Turkey has been using ISIS (and other Syrian rebel groups) as a counter to both Assad and the PKK for quite some time now. This is common of many countries and an aspect of international affairs. It doesn't mean that Turkey or anyone else created ISIS or that they are responsible for its emergence. Decades of aerial bombardment and sanctions (the perpetrators of whom are the real "barbarians" here) and eventually, a pre-emptive war of occupation combined with the remnants of Iraqi Baathism, Saddam's military and intelligence apparatus, Saddam's Return to Faith Program (al-Hamlah al-Imaniyah), and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al-Tawhid wal-Jihad organization are the main factors in creating ISIS as it exists today. Even though al-Tawhid wal-Jihad swore allegiance to al-Qaidah at the start of Gulf War 2, it had a more hardline Salafi interpretation and manhaj as compared to al-Qaidah itself. Those differences between al-Qaidah and al-Tawhid wal-Jihad increased after Zarqawi's (ra) death and the death of various other leaders. This caused al-Qadiah's central leadership to lose contact with the new leadership of ISI as it was known at that time (and now, with a leadership composed of far more ex-Baathists).

    Blaming Turkish intelligence or Saudi intelligence or oil mafia gangs is a distraction and conspiracy theory. The US, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and even Iran would all have preferred a stable state ruled by some sort of strongman who could be controlled…as opposed to chaos and a lack of authority where the border between Iraq and Syria was destroyed (this then inspired the Kurds which now has mobilized Turkey and so forth).

    "...Erdogan sided with the nationalist (racist) MHP who hate the Kurds..."

    I agree there is probably a good deal of racism towards the Kurds in Turkey. But there is a great deal of racism among the Kurds towards non-Kurds as well. Whenever you make a state based on ethnicity (whether Israel or Kurdistan)...then the foundation of that state will always have some degree of racism attached to it. Arab Baathism can also be accused of the same thing. The answer to racism is not secularism and free speech (which protects or incubates racist thought). The answer to racism is Islam, which unites the tribes and nations of the world (so long as one is truly following Islam and not following their desires and rewriting or incorrectly implementing the rulings of Islam based on their desires which is one of the attributes of the Khawarij sect) under the banner of the One who created all of us (regardless of language, culture, or skin tone). Under the banner of Monotheism.

    Prophet Muhammad (saaws) said (in the Farewell Sermon): "All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; A White has no superiority over a Black nor does a Black have any superiority over a White...except in piety and good deeds"


    I agree with rest of the analysis from the Eye on Turkey Blog, but it is the foundational principles of the modern Turkish state as well as a theoretical Kurdish state that must be opposed (I’m not sure if the author of that blog would agree). For centuries, Turkmen, Kurds, Arabs, Jews, and others were united under the Khalifah (even though non-Muslims had an additional tax to pay). They will not be united now, post colonialism, as separate republics; or by NATO; or under the UN; or through secular democracy.

    and Allah knows best.

    Jibrish ideas and deceptive philosophy. In one hand you are talking about ISIS being created by this or that in the other you are talking about the political instrests of Turkey where Erdogan regime uses ISIS and etc.

    Kurdish people who been fighting the Erdogan regime and a military Turkish regime have ideology where as your saying there are no such thing but pure political garbage discerned to eliminate the guilt. Kurdish people been killed, as Israeli been killing Palestinians in last 65 years, beside all the historic proof, why would Erdogan regime support such barbaric stone aged caliphate regime when he knows he can make a long lasting peace with Kurdish people even with PKK. Erdogan playing it both ways when it comes to his modernized yet islamic dictatorial regime which is not different from when Turkey was ruled by militarism with Turkish racist elements from far right, why would he do that beside wanting to secure his political position?

    In regard to Turkish Erdogan regime being modernized there is no argument, but that docent mean that the system and its functionality is based on the principals of democracy, cooperating with ISIS alone proves that fact. Cooperating, supporting with barbarism, no matter their creation or their social political statue, they are barbarians and for a “democratic” system cooperating with such regime it shows that such cooperation is based on a falsified and deceptive democracy.

    Isis was created as a buffer zone for Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon to create a political, economic, cultural unity, Israel, USG, Turkey, Saudis Arabia and EU present governing systems didn’t like the idea; for eliminating or limiting such unity they created ISIS which the Turkish Erdogan regime was given the responsibility as military, economic logistical supporter for ISIS to advance, otherwise all young and inexperience european youth and others who inter Syria can not build a military regime with ideology as barbarism, in the beginning they were trained by CIA, later by Jordanian, later by Turkey according to documents, whereas result ISIS was borne. ISIS is used by Turkish Erdogan undemocratic, yet another Islamic dictatorial regime to kill people with 2015 ideology not an stone aged ideas that have no clue about earth not being flat, the ideology is based on peoples freedom and integrity, people self-reliant where they can keep their culture and their mother tung, where they can be proud of their heritage and not be puppet to either EU, Saudi Arabia or USG.

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    Mojo - it is important to differentiate between issues in international affairs where one party takes advantage of another party or works alongside them temporarily, verses conspiracy theories that claim that one party created the other party. I stated what I believe to be the most important factors regarding the rise of ISIS as an organization (with aspirations of statehood). You did not address any of those.

    There is no doubt that the Kurds have been attacked and killed by many. But the Kurds also have blood on their hands. Are they Muslim or are they not? Average Kurds are not educated well on Islamic matters, but instead, have been misled by their racist, communist, and power-hungry leadership (who would be considered apostates on the scales of Islam).

    The most revered Kurd in history is Saladin Ayyub - a Muslim Mujahid who liberated Palestine under the banner of a Khalifah. He did not fight for any sort of ethnic, tribal, or marxist cause!

    Yes, you can compare the suffering of the Kurds with the suffering of the Palestinians...but the solution to that suffering as envisioned by Kurdish leaders in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey today is for an ethnocentric state. In this, a future potential Kurdistan is more similar to Israel than it is to Palestine, and will require them to continue their current policy of kicking out Arabs from Kurdish cities and villages (to be repeated with other non-Kurds if a real Kurdish state ever gets off the ground). They fight their own brothers of the same religion (Islam) who differ with them ethnically, yet come to the aid of those who share the same ethnicity yet have a completely different religion – such as the Yazidis.

    Sure, we can say that ISIS made a mistake with regards to attacking the Yazidis when the previous Ottoman Khalifah had always extracted the jazya tax from them, and for applying rulings with regards to a Khalifah State when they have not even come close to meeting the requirements and preconditions for one. But the Kurds have been fighting all the various Mujahid groups in Iraq ever since the US occupation began (long before ISIS came to be as it is now). Also, let’s look at the example of Palestine. We see in the conflict between Hamas and Fatah as well as between Hamas and the Salafi-Jihadi groups in Gaza - that adherence to religion for some comes before a Palestinian state. The character and identity of Palestine is that of a Muslim nation, and so Islam should be the primary source of governance and economics. There are some in Palestine who wish for a secular Arab state. Hence, the conflict between the various sides there. I'm hopeful that the Kurds will eventually realize this and put an end (from within) to those who are fighting right now for a Kurdish state as opposed to an Islamic State. No one is going to force the Kurds to be divided by Sykes-Picot or any other set of borders (which is the case now). Rather, the Kurds will be even more united under the banner of Islam, and will be embraced with open arms by other Muslim ethnic groups. The difference is that it will be a Caliph rather than the UN or NATO or the US or Britain – that all the Muslim groups and ethnicities obey. Today, the Kurds obey America, the UN Security Council, and the borders and boundaries that European colonial powers placed between them and between others.

    Killing for an economic ideology is barbarism. Killing for ethnic pride and ethnic purposes is backwards and racist.

    With regards to Erdogon, I completely agree that he is doing what he is doing at least in part, for political reasons. All the more reason to call him a politician bound by nationalism and constitutionalism as opposed to an Islamist bound by the Quran and authentic Sunnah.

    By the way, cooperating with ISIS does not contradict the system of democracy. If you can fool your electorate to the point where they believe that cooperating with someone (no matter how different they are from you) will help you against your primary enemy…then you can get a democracy to support such a thing. In Turkey, there is anger, resentment, and racism towards Kurds to the point that many Turks will vote for a leader who will cooperate with ISIS (or anyone else) if that means subduing Kurdish aspirations and power. I'm not saying this is right...only that this is a fact with regards to democracy (Patrick in his article above gave another example with regards to Britain and the Boer War showing how war corrupts a democracy). Democracy is the tyranny of the majority which plays upon the worst fears, inclinations, and prejudices of the people. All it takes is big business, corporatocracy, or war to sway it towards one direction or the other.

    There is nothing wrong with having pride in your culture and heritage so long as you don't go overboard and believe that everything within your culture and heritage is correct, or you put that culture and heritage above your religion. Religion is what demands our priority and allegiance first and foremost. Culture and heritage can then exist below this, and change and be shaped around it. Far too many people today though want to change their religion on order to accommodate their current lifestyle and culture (which may have nothing to do with their heritage). Many cultures today only cherry-pick some aspects of their heritage while at the same time, adjusting to modernity and technological change. So why not do the same with religion…pick and choose from your heritage all that is good and compliant with your religion (and leave out the rest)?

    Hopefully, there is no racism or bigotry in your heart. Do you really believe that those who have fought against and successfully resisted sanctions imposed on them by the entire world as well as the inhumane bombing campaigns of one coalition after another after another...are stone age barbarians who think the world is flat?

    Lastly, please don't forget to call the bombs dropped by the Turkish air force or the guerrilla tactics of the PKK and YPG as "barbaric" as well. I have yet to hear of any kind of war that isn't barbaric.
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  12. Sonic says:
    @Mojo
    Jibrish ideas and deceptive philosophy. In one hand you are talking about ISIS being created by this or that in the other you are talking about the political instrests of Turkey where Erdogan regime uses ISIS and etc.

    Kurdish people who been fighting the Erdogan regime and a military Turkish regime have ideology where as your saying there are no such thing but pure political garbage discerned to eliminate the guilt. Kurdish people been killed, as Israeli been killing Palestinians in last 65 years, beside all the historic proof, why would Erdogan regime support such barbaric stone aged caliphate regime when he knows he can make a long lasting peace with Kurdish people even with PKK. Erdogan playing it both ways when it comes to his modernized yet islamic dictatorial regime which is not different from when Turkey was ruled by militarism with Turkish racist elements from far right, why would he do that beside wanting to secure his political position?

    In regard to Turkish Erdogan regime being modernized there is no argument, but that docent mean that the system and its functionality is based on the principals of democracy, cooperating with ISIS alone proves that fact. Cooperating, supporting with barbarism, no matter their creation or their social political statue, they are barbarians and for a "democratic" system cooperating with such regime it shows that such cooperation is based on a falsified and deceptive democracy.

    Isis was created as a buffer zone for Iraq, Iran, Syria and Lebanon to create a political, economic, cultural unity, Israel, USG, Turkey, Saudis Arabia and EU present governing systems didn't like the idea; for eliminating or limiting such unity they created ISIS which the Turkish Erdogan regime was given the responsibility as military, economic logistical supporter for ISIS to advance, otherwise all young and inexperience european youth and others who inter Syria can not build a military regime with ideology as barbarism, in the beginning they were trained by CIA, later by Jordanian, later by Turkey according to documents, whereas result ISIS was borne. ISIS is used by Turkish Erdogan undemocratic, yet another Islamic dictatorial regime to kill people with 2015 ideology not an stone aged ideas that have no clue about earth not being flat, the ideology is based on peoples freedom and integrity, people self-reliant where they can keep their culture and their mother tung, where they can be proud of their heritage and not be puppet to either EU, Saudi Arabia or USG.

    Mojo – it is important to differentiate between issues in international affairs where one party takes advantage of another party or works alongside them temporarily, verses conspiracy theories that claim that one party created the other party. I stated what I believe to be the most important factors regarding the rise of ISIS as an organization (with aspirations of statehood). You did not address any of those.

    There is no doubt that the Kurds have been attacked and killed by many. But the Kurds also have blood on their hands. Are they Muslim or are they not? Average Kurds are not educated well on Islamic matters, but instead, have been misled by their racist, communist, and power-hungry leadership (who would be considered apostates on the scales of Islam).

    The most revered Kurd in history is Saladin Ayyub – a Muslim Mujahid who liberated Palestine under the banner of a Khalifah. He did not fight for any sort of ethnic, tribal, or marxist cause!

    Yes, you can compare the suffering of the Kurds with the suffering of the Palestinians…but the solution to that suffering as envisioned by Kurdish leaders in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey today is for an ethnocentric state. In this, a future potential Kurdistan is more similar to Israel than it is to Palestine, and will require them to continue their current policy of kicking out Arabs from Kurdish cities and villages (to be repeated with other non-Kurds if a real Kurdish state ever gets off the ground). They fight their own brothers of the same religion (Islam) who differ with them ethnically, yet come to the aid of those who share the same ethnicity yet have a completely different religion – such as the Yazidis.

    Sure, we can say that ISIS made a mistake with regards to attacking the Yazidis when the previous Ottoman Khalifah had always extracted the jazya tax from them, and for applying rulings with regards to a Khalifah State when they have not even come close to meeting the requirements and preconditions for one. But the Kurds have been fighting all the various Mujahid groups in Iraq ever since the US occupation began (long before ISIS came to be as it is now). Also, let’s look at the example of Palestine. We see in the conflict between Hamas and Fatah as well as between Hamas and the Salafi-Jihadi groups in Gaza – that adherence to religion for some comes before a Palestinian state. The character and identity of Palestine is that of a Muslim nation, and so Islam should be the primary source of governance and economics. There are some in Palestine who wish for a secular Arab state. Hence, the conflict between the various sides there. I’m hopeful that the Kurds will eventually realize this and put an end (from within) to those who are fighting right now for a Kurdish state as opposed to an Islamic State. No one is going to force the Kurds to be divided by Sykes-Picot or any other set of borders (which is the case now). Rather, the Kurds will be even more united under the banner of Islam, and will be embraced with open arms by other Muslim ethnic groups. The difference is that it will be a Caliph rather than the UN or NATO or the US or Britain – that all the Muslim groups and ethnicities obey. Today, the Kurds obey America, the UN Security Council, and the borders and boundaries that European colonial powers placed between them and between others.

    Killing for an economic ideology is barbarism. Killing for ethnic pride and ethnic purposes is backwards and racist.

    With regards to Erdogon, I completely agree that he is doing what he is doing at least in part, for political reasons. All the more reason to call him a politician bound by nationalism and constitutionalism as opposed to an Islamist bound by the Quran and authentic Sunnah.

    By the way, cooperating with ISIS does not contradict the system of democracy. If you can fool your electorate to the point where they believe that cooperating with someone (no matter how different they are from you) will help you against your primary enemy…then you can get a democracy to support such a thing. In Turkey, there is anger, resentment, and racism towards Kurds to the point that many Turks will vote for a leader who will cooperate with ISIS (or anyone else) if that means subduing Kurdish aspirations and power. I’m not saying this is right…only that this is a fact with regards to democracy (Patrick in his article above gave another example with regards to Britain and the Boer War showing how war corrupts a democracy). Democracy is the tyranny of the majority which plays upon the worst fears, inclinations, and prejudices of the people. All it takes is big business, corporatocracy, or war to sway it towards one direction or the other.

    There is nothing wrong with having pride in your culture and heritage so long as you don’t go overboard and believe that everything within your culture and heritage is correct, or you put that culture and heritage above your religion. Religion is what demands our priority and allegiance first and foremost. Culture and heritage can then exist below this, and change and be shaped around it. Far too many people today though want to change their religion on order to accommodate their current lifestyle and culture (which may have nothing to do with their heritage). Many cultures today only cherry-pick some aspects of their heritage while at the same time, adjusting to modernity and technological change. So why not do the same with religion…pick and choose from your heritage all that is good and compliant with your religion (and leave out the rest)?

    Hopefully, there is no racism or bigotry in your heart. Do you really believe that those who have fought against and successfully resisted sanctions imposed on them by the entire world as well as the inhumane bombing campaigns of one coalition after another after another…are stone age barbarians who think the world is flat?

    Lastly, please don’t forget to call the bombs dropped by the Turkish air force or the guerrilla tactics of the PKK and YPG as “barbaric” as well. I have yet to hear of any kind of war that isn’t barbaric.

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    To days dat is related to 2015, mankind is traveling to outer space looking for new planet, mankind developed medicine to a point where humans benefit from, the development within mankind social culture, social economic and technology has been achieved due to democracy and its social progress in last hundred of years, slavery was band in 1772 yet Saudis practice it as we speak, GCC governing king and their deceptive idea in democracy practices slavery as we speak.

    I am not against Islam nor any other religion per say, I simply see the resemblance and can distinguish between fake Islam which is based on deception and those that are used by such systems to gain their economic and political interests. You simply insulting Kurdish people because of your knowledge being limited, you simply insulting the people's intelligence trying to manipulate the issues by jumping from one branch to the other. You simply degrading the Islam to level of these barbarians whom are supported by, what is called, an Islamic democratic regime as Erdogan governing system, or Saudis or GCC monarchist representing, the same matter is about USG calling itself "democracy" but in practical terms being a militarism regime, so is with NATO and etc.

    The reason for you to call the killing of innocent people by Erdogan falsified democracy or Isis the barbarians, an stone aged policies created by those whom interests are based on fraudulent ideas, as you compare the wars from the past which been a barbaric wars, as Vietnam, the Korean and etc. but you forgetting the fact that this is 2015, the mankind have left its cave five million years ago, the dinasoures are no longer here, hence, creating, supporting and supplying ISIS or others a like, to me, it seams that no matter how far and what you can call your system being a democratic, when you support barbarism than you have cross the line in what is known as the principals.

    Kurdish people been there, at their land practicing their way of democracy long before Erdogan regime and his democracy were born, for that reason they been killed by either Turkish regimes and now by ISIS.
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  13. Cockburn is and anti Islam , Shia-Kurd sympathizer. He sees conspiracies every where, but not those related to unrepresentative terrorist secular/communist Kurdish nationalism. Kurdish nationalism is a tool of colonialists and Israel.

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  14. Mojo says:
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    Mojo - it is important to differentiate between issues in international affairs where one party takes advantage of another party or works alongside them temporarily, verses conspiracy theories that claim that one party created the other party. I stated what I believe to be the most important factors regarding the rise of ISIS as an organization (with aspirations of statehood). You did not address any of those.

    There is no doubt that the Kurds have been attacked and killed by many. But the Kurds also have blood on their hands. Are they Muslim or are they not? Average Kurds are not educated well on Islamic matters, but instead, have been misled by their racist, communist, and power-hungry leadership (who would be considered apostates on the scales of Islam).

    The most revered Kurd in history is Saladin Ayyub - a Muslim Mujahid who liberated Palestine under the banner of a Khalifah. He did not fight for any sort of ethnic, tribal, or marxist cause!

    Yes, you can compare the suffering of the Kurds with the suffering of the Palestinians...but the solution to that suffering as envisioned by Kurdish leaders in Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Turkey today is for an ethnocentric state. In this, a future potential Kurdistan is more similar to Israel than it is to Palestine, and will require them to continue their current policy of kicking out Arabs from Kurdish cities and villages (to be repeated with other non-Kurds if a real Kurdish state ever gets off the ground). They fight their own brothers of the same religion (Islam) who differ with them ethnically, yet come to the aid of those who share the same ethnicity yet have a completely different religion – such as the Yazidis.

    Sure, we can say that ISIS made a mistake with regards to attacking the Yazidis when the previous Ottoman Khalifah had always extracted the jazya tax from them, and for applying rulings with regards to a Khalifah State when they have not even come close to meeting the requirements and preconditions for one. But the Kurds have been fighting all the various Mujahid groups in Iraq ever since the US occupation began (long before ISIS came to be as it is now). Also, let’s look at the example of Palestine. We see in the conflict between Hamas and Fatah as well as between Hamas and the Salafi-Jihadi groups in Gaza - that adherence to religion for some comes before a Palestinian state. The character and identity of Palestine is that of a Muslim nation, and so Islam should be the primary source of governance and economics. There are some in Palestine who wish for a secular Arab state. Hence, the conflict between the various sides there. I'm hopeful that the Kurds will eventually realize this and put an end (from within) to those who are fighting right now for a Kurdish state as opposed to an Islamic State. No one is going to force the Kurds to be divided by Sykes-Picot or any other set of borders (which is the case now). Rather, the Kurds will be even more united under the banner of Islam, and will be embraced with open arms by other Muslim ethnic groups. The difference is that it will be a Caliph rather than the UN or NATO or the US or Britain – that all the Muslim groups and ethnicities obey. Today, the Kurds obey America, the UN Security Council, and the borders and boundaries that European colonial powers placed between them and between others.

    Killing for an economic ideology is barbarism. Killing for ethnic pride and ethnic purposes is backwards and racist.

    With regards to Erdogon, I completely agree that he is doing what he is doing at least in part, for political reasons. All the more reason to call him a politician bound by nationalism and constitutionalism as opposed to an Islamist bound by the Quran and authentic Sunnah.

    By the way, cooperating with ISIS does not contradict the system of democracy. If you can fool your electorate to the point where they believe that cooperating with someone (no matter how different they are from you) will help you against your primary enemy…then you can get a democracy to support such a thing. In Turkey, there is anger, resentment, and racism towards Kurds to the point that many Turks will vote for a leader who will cooperate with ISIS (or anyone else) if that means subduing Kurdish aspirations and power. I'm not saying this is right...only that this is a fact with regards to democracy (Patrick in his article above gave another example with regards to Britain and the Boer War showing how war corrupts a democracy). Democracy is the tyranny of the majority which plays upon the worst fears, inclinations, and prejudices of the people. All it takes is big business, corporatocracy, or war to sway it towards one direction or the other.

    There is nothing wrong with having pride in your culture and heritage so long as you don't go overboard and believe that everything within your culture and heritage is correct, or you put that culture and heritage above your religion. Religion is what demands our priority and allegiance first and foremost. Culture and heritage can then exist below this, and change and be shaped around it. Far too many people today though want to change their religion on order to accommodate their current lifestyle and culture (which may have nothing to do with their heritage). Many cultures today only cherry-pick some aspects of their heritage while at the same time, adjusting to modernity and technological change. So why not do the same with religion…pick and choose from your heritage all that is good and compliant with your religion (and leave out the rest)?

    Hopefully, there is no racism or bigotry in your heart. Do you really believe that those who have fought against and successfully resisted sanctions imposed on them by the entire world as well as the inhumane bombing campaigns of one coalition after another after another...are stone age barbarians who think the world is flat?

    Lastly, please don't forget to call the bombs dropped by the Turkish air force or the guerrilla tactics of the PKK and YPG as "barbaric" as well. I have yet to hear of any kind of war that isn't barbaric.

    To days dat is related to 2015, mankind is traveling to outer space looking for new planet, mankind developed medicine to a point where humans benefit from, the development within mankind social culture, social economic and technology has been achieved due to democracy and its social progress in last hundred of years, slavery was band in 1772 yet Saudis practice it as we speak, GCC governing king and their deceptive idea in democracy practices slavery as we speak.

    I am not against Islam nor any other religion per say, I simply see the resemblance and can distinguish between fake Islam which is based on deception and those that are used by such systems to gain their economic and political interests. You simply insulting Kurdish people because of your knowledge being limited, you simply insulting the people’s intelligence trying to manipulate the issues by jumping from one branch to the other. You simply degrading the Islam to level of these barbarians whom are supported by, what is called, an Islamic democratic regime as Erdogan governing system, or Saudis or GCC monarchist representing, the same matter is about USG calling itself “democracy” but in practical terms being a militarism regime, so is with NATO and etc.

    The reason for you to call the killing of innocent people by Erdogan falsified democracy or Isis the barbarians, an stone aged policies created by those whom interests are based on fraudulent ideas, as you compare the wars from the past which been a barbaric wars, as Vietnam, the Korean and etc. but you forgetting the fact that this is 2015, the mankind have left its cave five million years ago, the dinasoures are no longer here, hence, creating, supporting and supplying ISIS or others a like, to me, it seams that no matter how far and what you can call your system being a democratic, when you support barbarism than you have cross the line in what is known as the principals.

    Kurdish people been there, at their land practicing their way of democracy long before Erdogan regime and his democracy were born, for that reason they been killed by either Turkish regimes and now by ISIS.

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    Mojo - all the great technological innovations that have occurred over the last century are excellent and should be celebrated. But that doesn't mean that everything in relation to them, or the social structures that have enabled them, are correct. The same great scientific discoveries that gave us the ability to further explore space and send robots to Mars...are also the same discoveries that produced the atomic bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

    The same great technology that allows us to communicate with one another so effortlessly no matter where we live on the earth...is the same technology that spreads immorality and corrupt sexual behavior across the earth. It is the same technology that empowers democratic rulers and dictatorships alike with the tools needed to monitor and spy on others to an extent and level never before witnessed in human history! From that point, such rulers (regardless of the method in which they came to power) can (and do) imprison, slander, and torture whomever they wish (particularly in order to secure their own power and maintain the status quo).

    Let not Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking be your only guides with regards to the hope and prosperity of science and technology. Also remember George Orwell and Edward Snowden. Technology and scientific progress changes with time. Yet, today's accomplishments could not have come about without all of the past accomplishments (including the time of the various Islamic states with specific emphasis on the scientific accomplishments of the Abbasid and Umayyad Khalifah). But morality, righteousness, justice, and Monotheism do not change with time. Rather, they are universal.

    You mentioned the differences between ISIS, Erdogon, and the Saudi/GCC way of governance. So by admitting this, you can no longer group them together. One is an Islamic State but with innovated rulings that are misapplied on account of having an organization attempting to build state (rather than already establishing a state). In the other two cases, you have established and somewhat stable states….with one being a secular democracy and the other being a tyrannical monarchy.

    It is democracy (among other things) that is immoral and barbaric here. Choose your leaders, but do not choose your law-makers...as the attribute of Law-Maker is for the Creator and not the creation. Most of these Kurdish groups that are leading the fight for an independent Kurdistan are communists who look to Karl Marx as their law-maker or inspiration for law-making. Giving the attributes of the Creator to the creation (or mixing the attributes) is polytheism. Uniting our tribes, races, and nations in the establishment of doing good (by not associating any partners with God, establishing the laws of God while recognizing some level differing interpretations of those laws since we are still human after all, praying five times a day, fasting, going on pilgrimage if we can afford it, providing charity for the poor, and by teaching our families and children and community members that we are brothers and sisters in faith which transcends and supersedes our skin color, language, heritage, culture, tribe, or nation-state). Democracy is what has allowed Turkey to attack and kill Kurds. It is what has allowed the Kurds to be used as America’s army and caused the Kurds to cleanse some of their areas of control of any Arab. Democracy is what empowers racism, exceptionalism, and manifest destiny in places like the US, Australia, western Europe, and Israel! Without morality and righteousness - all the money and wealth and power and technology in the world will not prevent one from committing evil and harm. In fact, that evil and harm may become worse on account of wealth, power, science, and technology!

    I am not insulting the Kurdish people by opposing a Kurdish state. I am advising and hoping for the Kurdish people to bring unity within their own communities and with their own non-Kurdish neighbors by following the religion they claim to practice – Islam. By uniting with Arabs, Persians, Turks, Europeans, Africans, and all the ethnic groups (as well as all the various subcategories and other divisions within each ethnic group or tribe) through worship of our Creator and not worship of the creation.

    Remember, any accomplishment humanity has achieved from flying through space to curing disease - comes from God. We are unable to do anything without our Creator, and we owe our very existence and all of our capabilities to our Creator. Our Creator gave us something rather than nothing, and gave us life, pleasure, hope, dreams, free will, and the promise of the Hereafter (if we do good through our free will). God made us into different tribes, ethnic groups, and nations in order to test us and see who would be the best from among us. And the examples of the Prophets include those who, in order to do what is right and to purify their worship of the Creator, went against or abandoned their own tribe, ethnic group, or nation! That is far more difficult as compared to curing a disease or engineering a faster computer or constructing a taller building. This is a case and situation where you may have to be critical of yourself and your own nation…not because you hate your own people but because you want what is best for your own people and to call them to something greater than just ethnic or racial identity.

    Mojo - you have said many times these groups fighting in Iraq and Syria and elsewhere are agents and proxies of the west. Ok, let’s accept that for a minute. But aren’t the western nations including Israel not also democracies? Are they not the richest nations in the world today? Has not the many scientific discoveries and technological innovations come from their lands? Yet, by your own admission, look at what they are responsible for doing in the Middle East and other poor regions! Look at all the financial corruption, immorality (particularly when it comes to relations between men and women), racism, pride, arrogance, injustice, and entitlement that exists in their lands. Then connect that with all that you accuse them of in other lands (whether through wars of occupation, bombings, or creating proxies and front groups)!

    Yes – there is also a lot of the same problems and evils within the Middle East and various third world nations as well. But look at who it is that continues to bomb and sanction the poorest nations of the world, who it is that supports dictatorships and tyrannies like the ones you have mentioned, and who it is that is guilty of the greater crimes and transgressions here (the root causes in particular as opposed to the consequences and blowback of those root causes)! Where is all the advancement, all the modernity, all those scientific discovers, and all of that technological innovation when it comes to committing these crimes and transgressions? Again, morality and righteousness is a universal constant throughout time regardless of how advanced we are technologically; regardless of whether we communicate through letters or email; regardless of whether we travel on horseback or on a super-sonic jet; regardless of whether we trasmit knowledge by typing or oral recitation; etc.

    The people of Kurdistan are Muslims. They should be proud of that. They should defend that. If they do, then they will never be disappointed. But if they don’t and instead, seek pride in something else, then they will always be disappointed. This is true of Palestinians as well, and Iraqis, Syrians, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Somalis, and so forth. The Turks and the Kurds are *brothers* in faith. They were created by Allah (which literally means *the* God…and not just a god), and will return to Allah at which time they will be held responsible for their deeds. Allah is the Most High, Most Transcendent, and Most Unique. There is nothing like our Creator, and nothing comparable to Him. The Creator is the painter, not the painting (in order to use an imperfect analogy).

    Oh, and lastly, since we are talking about the great technological changes or our time...don't be so sure that the dinosaurs are gone. Haven't you seen the movie Jurassic World? < that’s a joke :)
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  15. Sonic says:
    @Mojo
    To days dat is related to 2015, mankind is traveling to outer space looking for new planet, mankind developed medicine to a point where humans benefit from, the development within mankind social culture, social economic and technology has been achieved due to democracy and its social progress in last hundred of years, slavery was band in 1772 yet Saudis practice it as we speak, GCC governing king and their deceptive idea in democracy practices slavery as we speak.

    I am not against Islam nor any other religion per say, I simply see the resemblance and can distinguish between fake Islam which is based on deception and those that are used by such systems to gain their economic and political interests. You simply insulting Kurdish people because of your knowledge being limited, you simply insulting the people's intelligence trying to manipulate the issues by jumping from one branch to the other. You simply degrading the Islam to level of these barbarians whom are supported by, what is called, an Islamic democratic regime as Erdogan governing system, or Saudis or GCC monarchist representing, the same matter is about USG calling itself "democracy" but in practical terms being a militarism regime, so is with NATO and etc.

    The reason for you to call the killing of innocent people by Erdogan falsified democracy or Isis the barbarians, an stone aged policies created by those whom interests are based on fraudulent ideas, as you compare the wars from the past which been a barbaric wars, as Vietnam, the Korean and etc. but you forgetting the fact that this is 2015, the mankind have left its cave five million years ago, the dinasoures are no longer here, hence, creating, supporting and supplying ISIS or others a like, to me, it seams that no matter how far and what you can call your system being a democratic, when you support barbarism than you have cross the line in what is known as the principals.

    Kurdish people been there, at their land practicing their way of democracy long before Erdogan regime and his democracy were born, for that reason they been killed by either Turkish regimes and now by ISIS.

    Mojo – all the great technological innovations that have occurred over the last century are excellent and should be celebrated. But that doesn’t mean that everything in relation to them, or the social structures that have enabled them, are correct. The same great scientific discoveries that gave us the ability to further explore space and send robots to Mars…are also the same discoveries that produced the atomic bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

    The same great technology that allows us to communicate with one another so effortlessly no matter where we live on the earth…is the same technology that spreads immorality and corrupt sexual behavior across the earth. It is the same technology that empowers democratic rulers and dictatorships alike with the tools needed to monitor and spy on others to an extent and level never before witnessed in human history! From that point, such rulers (regardless of the method in which they came to power) can (and do) imprison, slander, and torture whomever they wish (particularly in order to secure their own power and maintain the status quo).

    Let not Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking be your only guides with regards to the hope and prosperity of science and technology. Also remember George Orwell and Edward Snowden. Technology and scientific progress changes with time. Yet, today’s accomplishments could not have come about without all of the past accomplishments (including the time of the various Islamic states with specific emphasis on the scientific accomplishments of the Abbasid and Umayyad Khalifah). But morality, righteousness, justice, and Monotheism do not change with time. Rather, they are universal.

    You mentioned the differences between ISIS, Erdogon, and the Saudi/GCC way of governance. So by admitting this, you can no longer group them together. One is an Islamic State but with innovated rulings that are misapplied on account of having an organization attempting to build state (rather than already establishing a state). In the other two cases, you have established and somewhat stable states….with one being a secular democracy and the other being a tyrannical monarchy.

    It is democracy (among other things) that is immoral and barbaric here. Choose your leaders, but do not choose your law-makers…as the attribute of Law-Maker is for the Creator and not the creation. Most of these Kurdish groups that are leading the fight for an independent Kurdistan are communists who look to Karl Marx as their law-maker or inspiration for law-making. Giving the attributes of the Creator to the creation (or mixing the attributes) is polytheism. Uniting our tribes, races, and nations in the establishment of doing good (by not associating any partners with God, establishing the laws of God while recognizing some level differing interpretations of those laws since we are still human after all, praying five times a day, fasting, going on pilgrimage if we can afford it, providing charity for the poor, and by teaching our families and children and community members that we are brothers and sisters in faith which transcends and supersedes our skin color, language, heritage, culture, tribe, or nation-state). Democracy is what has allowed Turkey to attack and kill Kurds. It is what has allowed the Kurds to be used as America’s army and caused the Kurds to cleanse some of their areas of control of any Arab. Democracy is what empowers racism, exceptionalism, and manifest destiny in places like the US, Australia, western Europe, and Israel! Without morality and righteousness – all the money and wealth and power and technology in the world will not prevent one from committing evil and harm. In fact, that evil and harm may become worse on account of wealth, power, science, and technology!

    I am not insulting the Kurdish people by opposing a Kurdish state. I am advising and hoping for the Kurdish people to bring unity within their own communities and with their own non-Kurdish neighbors by following the religion they claim to practice – Islam. By uniting with Arabs, Persians, Turks, Europeans, Africans, and all the ethnic groups (as well as all the various subcategories and other divisions within each ethnic group or tribe) through worship of our Creator and not worship of the creation.

    Remember, any accomplishment humanity has achieved from flying through space to curing disease – comes from God. We are unable to do anything without our Creator, and we owe our very existence and all of our capabilities to our Creator. Our Creator gave us something rather than nothing, and gave us life, pleasure, hope, dreams, free will, and the promise of the Hereafter (if we do good through our free will). God made us into different tribes, ethnic groups, and nations in order to test us and see who would be the best from among us. And the examples of the Prophets include those who, in order to do what is right and to purify their worship of the Creator, went against or abandoned their own tribe, ethnic group, or nation! That is far more difficult as compared to curing a disease or engineering a faster computer or constructing a taller building. This is a case and situation where you may have to be critical of yourself and your own nation…not because you hate your own people but because you want what is best for your own people and to call them to something greater than just ethnic or racial identity.

    Mojo – you have said many times these groups fighting in Iraq and Syria and elsewhere are agents and proxies of the west. Ok, let’s accept that for a minute. But aren’t the western nations including Israel not also democracies? Are they not the richest nations in the world today? Has not the many scientific discoveries and technological innovations come from their lands? Yet, by your own admission, look at what they are responsible for doing in the Middle East and other poor regions! Look at all the financial corruption, immorality (particularly when it comes to relations between men and women), racism, pride, arrogance, injustice, and entitlement that exists in their lands. Then connect that with all that you accuse them of in other lands (whether through wars of occupation, bombings, or creating proxies and front groups)!

    Yes – there is also a lot of the same problems and evils within the Middle East and various third world nations as well. But look at who it is that continues to bomb and sanction the poorest nations of the world, who it is that supports dictatorships and tyrannies like the ones you have mentioned, and who it is that is guilty of the greater crimes and transgressions here (the root causes in particular as opposed to the consequences and blowback of those root causes)! Where is all the advancement, all the modernity, all those scientific discovers, and all of that technological innovation when it comes to committing these crimes and transgressions? Again, morality and righteousness is a universal constant throughout time regardless of how advanced we are technologically; regardless of whether we communicate through letters or email; regardless of whether we travel on horseback or on a super-sonic jet; regardless of whether we trasmit knowledge by typing or oral recitation; etc.

    The people of Kurdistan are Muslims. They should be proud of that. They should defend that. If they do, then they will never be disappointed. But if they don’t and instead, seek pride in something else, then they will always be disappointed. This is true of Palestinians as well, and Iraqis, Syrians, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Somalis, and so forth. The Turks and the Kurds are *brothers* in faith. They were created by Allah (which literally means *the* God…and not just a god), and will return to Allah at which time they will be held responsible for their deeds. Allah is the Most High, Most Transcendent, and Most Unique. There is nothing like our Creator, and nothing comparable to Him. The Creator is the painter, not the painting (in order to use an imperfect analogy).

    Oh, and lastly, since we are talking about the great technological changes or our time…don’t be so sure that the dinosaurs are gone. Haven’t you seen the movie Jurassic World? < that’s a joke :)

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