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Qatar is unexpectedly under siege from its neighbours. Led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, supported by Egypt, Bahrain and Yemen, the five Arab states have cut diplomatic relations with Qatar, severed land, air and sea travel and are expelling Qatari citizens who have 48 hours to depart.

The Saudis and their allies are demanding, in effect, that Qatar end its independent foreign policy and tame or close down its television station, Al Jazeera. They claim that Qatar is complicit with Iran in supporting terrorism, though Qatar is one of the loose coalition of Sunni states supporting forces hostile to Iran in Syria and Yemen.

One pro-Saudi lobbyist in the US even threatens regime change in Qatar, tweeting to its Emir: “I would like to remind you that [elected Egyptian President] Mohammed Morsi did exactly the same [as you] and was then toppled and imprisoned.”

Saudi Arabia and Qatar have long been rivals and, despite Qatar’s small size, its great wealth and vast gas reserves have given it great influence. It backed the Arab Spring with its wealth and media outlets, supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and Hamas in Gaza.

Three years ago in 2014 there was a similar but less serious confrontation between Qatar and its neighbours, who accused it of interference in their internal affairs. Since then Qatar has been much more compliant in not confronting or pursuing radically different policies from those of Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

What has changed in the Gulf to precipitate a crisis now? The answer is that the Trump wrecking ball passed through the region last month and the US President’s unreserved backing for Saudi Arabia, and in particularly for deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has disturbed the regional balance of forces. It has already emboldened the Sunni monarchy in Bahrain to crush the last Shia resistance to its dominance, killing five protesters in one village and closing down the only remaining independent newspaper.

Much more seriously, Mr Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies and autocrats during his two-day visit to Riyadh emboldened the kingdom to start a second and, it hopes, final round in its confrontation with Qatar. Mr Trump may not have intended to touch off this latest crisis when he aggressively and inaccurately demonised Iran and by implication the Shia as the source of all terrorism in the Middle East and North Africa. But his words were interpreted by the Saudis as enabling them to move against Qatar though it is home to a major US base.

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It will be difficult for Qatar to withstand what amounts to a form of siege. Under Mr Trump, the degree of protection it can expect from the US is uncertain and Prince Mohammed bin Salman, eager to secure his own path to the Saudi throne, cannot afford a failure. He may even want to go the limit and eliminate Qatar as an independent state, the first time this has happened in the Gulf since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1990.

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:

    Having the Gulf States at one another’s throats isn’t a happy prospect. Too much ego and fanaticism ’round there. Meanwhile I enjoy Al Jazeera now and then (even though Al Jazeera America is gone). It’s one of the more honest, level-headed and accurate news organisations out there. Now I have to depend on RT and the Daily Mail, the latter of which does descend into a bit of sensationalism now and then. Almost anything’s better than the MSM (“Contolled Media”) in the USA though.

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    Except, however, that I now see that Al Jazeera is now the sworn enemy of Donald Trump, chiefly because they're offended that he's noticed Islamic Terrorism. Oh well.

    I do remember back in the day when I read AJA that Qatar Airways was their only advertiser. That says something.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/qatar-airways-banned-from-crucial-airspace-2017-6

    I don't get their diagram showing Bahrain's airspace.
    , @Dan Hayes
    Mika-Non:

    I agree with you regarding both RT and the Daily Mail.

    Regarding DM sensationalism: it's still rather pale compared to the New York Post!

    , @disturbed_robot
    Oh I beg to differ...Having the Gulf States at one another’s throats is an unbelievably happy prospect! Let the Wahabbi scum kill each other off.

    Do you want to see peace in the Middle East? Do you want global terrorism to sharply decline? Well my friend, every gulf nation needs to be flushed down the toilet bowl of history (along with a certain Zionist state) in order for that to happen. Nearly every single problem in the Middle East and terrorism outside of the Middle East can be traced right back to the gulf countries and their Zionist pals.

    I say let the flushing commence!!
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  2. Qatar is a supporter of Al Qaeda (Al Nusra). This is the first time since probably the war in Afghanistan that somebody is taking on a state supporter of Al Qaeda. Qatar has been playing games in the Middle East, contributing to the fanaticism for a long time. This is blow back for all the evil Qatar has engaged in.

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    Al Qaeda , Isis and Taliban are all creations of Saudis, this is an undeniable fact. its DNA is all over the place, and now they are playing saint. You can fool some people sometime but you can't fool all the people all of the time. Personally I don't believe they (Saudi royals) are Jews but they behave every inch 'JEWISH' Ochestrating the killing and destruction of Muslim families, towns, cities and countries without the faintest of remorse.driven by a boy lunatic called deputy crown prince Salman(with childish immature approach to delicate problems........the Muslims are watching and waiting for the appropriate time.
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  3. I must say…. it is difficult to feel any sympathy for Qatar even though Saudis and Co. are also scum. (So is the US.) It’s true enough that Qatar has stuck its nose into affairs of other nations and messed things up royally in Syria.

    Well, if you play with fire, you get burned.

    Why can’t Qatar just be like Singapore and mind its own damn business? Mouse playing elephant.

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    • Replies: @dcthrowback
    i suppose the qatari-ksa-usa-turkey-israeli alliance for regime change in syria has fallen apart completely.

    the qataris were gonna get to build their LNG pipeline, the KSA would've gotten another sunni radical client state to manage, the israelis and KSA got to spite the Iranians and the US got to deploy team blue to build ISIS while team red got to fight it, the type of self licking ice cream cone that sells budget submits to Congress that the MIC and deep state just lurve.

    Sy Hersh's rat line is dead, thankfully.
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  4. Kyle McKenna [AKA "Mika-Non"] says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    Having the Gulf States at one another's throats isn't a happy prospect. Too much ego and fanaticism 'round there. Meanwhile I enjoy Al Jazeera now and then (even though Al Jazeera America is gone). It's one of the more honest, level-headed and accurate news organisations out there. Now I have to depend on RT and the Daily Mail, the latter of which does descend into a bit of sensationalism now and then. Almost anything's better than the MSM ("Contolled Media") in the USA though.

    Except, however, that I now see that Al Jazeera is now the sworn enemy of Donald Trump, chiefly because they’re offended that he’s noticed Islamic Terrorism. Oh well.

    I do remember back in the day when I read AJA that Qatar Airways was their only advertiser. That says something.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/qatar-airways-banned-from-crucial-airspace-2017-6

    I don’t get their diagram showing Bahrain’s airspace.

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  5. Why is this fool calling them Sunni monarchies? They are a cabal of mafia dons. Cockbue=rn is cockeyed between Najaf and Qum. His Shia proclivity shows again.

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    Cockbue=rn is cockeyed between Najaf and Qum. His Shia proclivity shows again.
     
    How so?
    , @Anonymous
    It's because the Shia aren't the crazy muslims who are beheading people.
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  6. Dan Hayes says:
    @Kyle McKenna
    Having the Gulf States at one another's throats isn't a happy prospect. Too much ego and fanaticism 'round there. Meanwhile I enjoy Al Jazeera now and then (even though Al Jazeera America is gone). It's one of the more honest, level-headed and accurate news organisations out there. Now I have to depend on RT and the Daily Mail, the latter of which does descend into a bit of sensationalism now and then. Almost anything's better than the MSM ("Contolled Media") in the USA though.

    Mika-Non:

    I agree with you regarding both RT and the Daily Mail.

    Regarding DM sensationalism: it’s still rather pale compared to the New York Post!

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  7. MEexpert says:
    @Simple Truth
    Why is this fool calling them Sunni monarchies? They are a cabal of mafia dons. Cockbue=rn is cockeyed between Najaf and Qum. His Shia proclivity shows again.

    Cockbue=rn is cockeyed between Najaf and Qum. His Shia proclivity shows again.

    How so?

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  8. Basudeb says: • Website

    I have a notion that Qatar, considering the situation in Syria, is no longer hopeful about the gas pipeline. At this point, maybe in connivance of Assad or maybe with his consent, Iran has thrown some bait like partnership that Qatar cannot ignore. Iranian diplomacy is aimed at causing a fissure in GCC .
    However, this is only a guess.

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    not a bad one, actually
    , @dcthrowback
    bloomberg has the answer: qatar got too big too fast on LNG and had too much leverage over its neighbors, so they decided to clip its wings a bit. qatar used to be in effect a ksa client state, but it's riches and LNG leverage allowed it to pursue some meddlin', some of which was good for ksa (syria) some of which wasn't (al-jazeera, etc.).

    obvs cockburn has the trump wrecking ball part correct, as he took his cue cards straight from the deep state with it's constant war drums beating for iran

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/saudi-arabia-s-feud-with-qatar-has-22-year-history-rooted-in-gas
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  9. Much more seriously, Mr Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies

    Jeez. Patrick, you really should reexamine your sectarian world-view. Your insistence (or pretense?) that Trump (or anyone else among geopolitical elites) gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism is getting outright comical.

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    • Replies: @Randal

    Jeez. Patrick, you really should reexamine your sectarian world-view. Your insistence (or pretense?) that Trump (or anyone else among geopolitical elites) gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism is getting outright comical
     
    Fwiw, I don't think the extract you quoted suggests Trump "gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism" - referring to "Trump's unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies" doesn't mean he's supporting them because they are Sunni.

    That said, surely any rational, honest and patriotic observer of world affairs from a US/European perspective would have such a bias? The Sunni are the perpetrators of almost all jihadist terrorism, whereas the shia's track record for violence is almost entirely related to resistance to foreign interference and/or Israeli colonialism. And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.
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    @Simple Truth
    Why is this fool calling them Sunni monarchies? They are a cabal of mafia dons. Cockbue=rn is cockeyed between Najaf and Qum. His Shia proclivity shows again.

    It’s because the Shia aren’t the crazy muslims who are beheading people.

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    Hilarious

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  12. Renoman says:

    Muslims killing Muslims, the American dream!

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    It's also a Zionist dream. I think DJT's trip sealed the fate of these bird brained idiots. They will finish each other and destroy themselves back to camel herding. They are self tripping in their own stupidity. Even worse, they know they are doing it on behalf of Israel thru American muscles, just so that they can stay in power, what a trick a New York "wise guy" and his little Jewy son (in law?) can pull.
    , @Gandalf
    It's also the Israeli dream! The US is now selling "lots of beautiful military equipment" to all sides, to all state sponsors of terror, in order to maximize chaos and maximize MIC profits. Several other western nations are also delivering weapons into the region. A conflageration will ensue.
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  13. J. Jeffrey Bragg Now you might think this would be front-page, hold-the-presses, extra-edition news! But you’d be wrong. ONLY the Financial Times has reported this! Goes to show how little mainstream media and we-the-people understand anything at all about the Middle East. Of course the Saudis are furious — not because of the kidnap/ransom shtik which is simple timeless ME business-as-usual — but because the whole thing was so blatant that it blew the cover off! So that even not-too-bright, not-too-politically-aware people like me have to think: “Wait one! So the ME royal families ARE financing the terrorist infrastructure. And here’s an example of how it’s done. And if it hasn’t happened to the House of Saud, that’s only because they already pay HEAVY PROTECTION to ensure that it doesn’t happen to them. This story, of course, increases their risk factor. Funny we have to wait so damn long for the ONE article that sheds brilliant light over these covert games! Thanks, FT! For a REAL NEWS story!

    Financial Times article

    https://www.ft.com/content/dd033082-49e9-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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  14. dcthrowback says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    I must say.... it is difficult to feel any sympathy for Qatar even though Saudis and Co. are also scum. (So is the US.) It's true enough that Qatar has stuck its nose into affairs of other nations and messed things up royally in Syria.

    Well, if you play with fire, you get burned.

    Why can't Qatar just be like Singapore and mind its own damn business? Mouse playing elephant.

    i suppose the qatari-ksa-usa-turkey-israeli alliance for regime change in syria has fallen apart completely.

    the qataris were gonna get to build their LNG pipeline, the KSA would’ve gotten another sunni radical client state to manage, the israelis and KSA got to spite the Iranians and the US got to deploy team blue to build ISIS while team red got to fight it, the type of self licking ice cream cone that sells budget submits to Congress that the MIC and deep state just lurve.

    Sy Hersh’s rat line is dead, thankfully.

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    It is still alive and kicking in Libya. And Qatar are the only entity left doing the Al Qaeda and ISIS thing there. UAE are with Egypt in the East, Bahrain is with Saudi in Tripoli and Qatar is in the new Kabul, Misrata. And Qatar are 100% responsible with Bernard Henry Levy for 100% of ISIS and Al CIAda in Libya, nobody else these days/
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    @Basudeb
    I have a notion that Qatar, considering the situation in Syria, is no longer hopeful about the gas pipeline. At this point, maybe in connivance of Assad or maybe with his consent, Iran has thrown some bait like partnership that Qatar cannot ignore. Iranian diplomacy is aimed at causing a fissure in GCC .
    However, this is only a guess.

    not a bad one, actually

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  16. So, having the blessings of Uncle to look away while they contemplate making a move, who will form the next big coalition of the willing to liberate Quatar if SA makes a move on it?

    Crickets.

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    • Replies: @Fredrik
    Qatar hosts a major foreign military base on its territory. Look up from which country...
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  17. Qatar is facing an hold-up.
    Saudi Arabia has been spending too much ( funding terrorism and making war against the Yemen). They may have much less oïl resources than claimed. They are trying to sell Aramco and with Trump’s support they are trying to rob Qatar from its gas resources and its belonging all over the world. Saudis should realize that what they are doing today to Qatar could happen to them tomorrow. They should remember what happenned to Noriega.

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  18. The Saudis run out of cash in 2020, an invasion of Qatar would be a nice way to kick the can down the road

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  19. dcthrowback says: • Website
    @Basudeb
    I have a notion that Qatar, considering the situation in Syria, is no longer hopeful about the gas pipeline. At this point, maybe in connivance of Assad or maybe with his consent, Iran has thrown some bait like partnership that Qatar cannot ignore. Iranian diplomacy is aimed at causing a fissure in GCC .
    However, this is only a guess.

    bloomberg has the answer: qatar got too big too fast on LNG and had too much leverage over its neighbors, so they decided to clip its wings a bit. qatar used to be in effect a ksa client state, but it’s riches and LNG leverage allowed it to pursue some meddlin’, some of which was good for ksa (syria) some of which wasn’t (al-jazeera, etc.).

    obvs cockburn has the trump wrecking ball part correct, as he took his cue cards straight from the deep state with it’s constant war drums beating for iran

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-06-06/saudi-arabia-s-feud-with-qatar-has-22-year-history-rooted-in-gas

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  20. […] Cockburn points to Trump’s embrace of the Saudis last month as a major factor in creating the Qatar […]

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  21. BeatPoet says:

    ” Mr Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies”

    What idiotic propaganda. Trump changed nothing. Obama supported these same monarchies in the destruction of Syria, through his famous rat-line:

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

    He also sold the Saudis hundreds of millions in weapons and assisted them with the actual invasion of Yemen.

    The sickest thing about this article is that Hillary took hundreds of millions in bribes from these ‘sunni monarchies’ the author is ranting about:

    Saudi Arabia: $25,000,000 – State Dept. approval for U.S. arms sales to Saudi Arabia

    Prince of Abu Dhabi: $5,000,000 – Muted criticism by State of Bahrain’s abysmal human rights practices.

    Brunei: $5,000,000 – State Dept. clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Brunei.

    GEMS Education, Dubai: $5,600,000 – Bill Clinton made honorary chairman.

    Kuwait: $10,000,000 – State Dept. clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Kuwait.

    Sheikh Mohammed H. Al Amoudi: $10,000,000 – Influence-buying within the Clinton State Dept.

    Qatar: $5,000,000 – State Dept. approval for U.S. arms sales to Qatar.

    United Arab Emirates: $5,000,000 – State Dept. approval for U.S. weapons sales to the UAE.

    Oman: $5,000,000 – State clearance for U.S. weapons sales to Oman.

    For this author, if you are a liberal, you can take bribes from Gulf States — and you can assist them in building a jihadist Sunni army (ISIS Al Nusra) to overthrow Syria.

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  22. Just get Soccer World Cup 2022 back to the US. After that, let them go at each-other throats.

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    Just get Soccer World Cup 2022 back to the US.
     
    Only if the Yanks start calling the world's no.1 sport by its proper name and quit their quaint and parochial usage of the name "football" for their regional sport.

    :-)
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  23. @Kyle McKenna
    Having the Gulf States at one another's throats isn't a happy prospect. Too much ego and fanaticism 'round there. Meanwhile I enjoy Al Jazeera now and then (even though Al Jazeera America is gone). It's one of the more honest, level-headed and accurate news organisations out there. Now I have to depend on RT and the Daily Mail, the latter of which does descend into a bit of sensationalism now and then. Almost anything's better than the MSM ("Contolled Media") in the USA though.

    Oh I beg to differ…Having the Gulf States at one another’s throats is an unbelievably happy prospect! Let the Wahabbi scum kill each other off.

    Do you want to see peace in the Middle East? Do you want global terrorism to sharply decline? Well my friend, every gulf nation needs to be flushed down the toilet bowl of history (along with a certain Zionist state) in order for that to happen. Nearly every single problem in the Middle East and terrorism outside of the Middle East can be traced right back to the gulf countries and their Zionist pals.

    I say let the flushing commence!!

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    But that's exactly what won't happen. I think Saudis know Jordsnian monarch and Kuwait monarch know . Saddam and his predecessor are gone Iran's PM was gone by 1960 . Suite a fee Syrian nationalists were disappeared by 1955. Memories of the monarchies are fresh , etched in stone and reverberates in folk lore and academic history departments of a few of middle eastern countries despite academic corruption .
    To survive, these monarchies have to do the dirty works for the empire from supplying money and arms to Latin American killeing brigade , offering blood money to rescue Anerican agent from Pakistsn, supplying foot soldiers against Russia , bribing officials from Mali to Sudan to buying useless arms and selling gas in dollars .

    Their crime is their passport to life granted by USA . How couldn't they not do what they are doing ? Any slowing will bring the sword down their necks . How could they forget the fate of Basher Assad and Ghaddafi and Saddam or of 2002 Somalian government ?
    They can't .
    How could they forget that the total capitulation to the western demand after 2002 in relation to the foreign policy was what saved them from the Bush - Cheney gang ? Neither they can forget that bribes worked to rehabilitate their images . They learned also to bribe the right group- Israel .


    May be the west has decided that the blowback here and there in London or Betlin or New Yotk is worth the profit to be secured . Unfortunately their voters don't get it .

    Voters and citizen still wonder and try to find the reason in foreign scriptures and histories and cultures . Part of the reasons is that's all they are allowed to . Any further questioning will bring the charge of ' conspiracy theory' , ' supporting terror , being naive and honest or anti American '



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  24. Fredrik says:
    @The Alarmist
    So, having the blessings of Uncle to look away while they contemplate making a move, who will form the next big coalition of the willing to liberate Quatar if SA makes a move on it?

    Crickets.

    Qatar hosts a major foreign military base on its territory. Look up from which country…

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    • Replies: @BVGP
    Qatar has always been US NATO HQ for 100% of the current Wars and is also the Base for Al CIAda and ISIS Al Jazeera Arabic.
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  25. Let dog eat dog. This bunch of loathsome terrorist sponsors and US puppets have the blood of hundreds of thousands if not millions on their hands over a period of decades. I hope that one day Riyadh, Doha and the rest look like Damascus and Aleppo do today. I hope the cannibal head chopping filth they like so much go there like pigeons coming home to roost and turn those countries into piles of smoking rubble. Its no more than they deserve. This will happen one day soon. What goes around comes around. The same thing is happening here in the UK – our pet terrorists are biting the hand that has fed them. We can expect the same soon on a vastly greater scale in the Gulf. Couldn’t happen to nicer people.

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  26. A link to that Pro-Saudi PR man’s tweet threatening Qatar with regime change would be helpful.

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  27. @Renoman
    Muslims killing Muslims, the American dream!

    It’s also a Zionist dream. I think DJT’s trip sealed the fate of these bird brained idiots. They will finish each other and destroy themselves back to camel herding. They are self tripping in their own stupidity. Even worse, they know they are doing it on behalf of Israel thru American muscles, just so that they can stay in power, what a trick a New York “wise guy” and his little Jewy son (in law?) can pull.

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  29. Randal says:

    What has changed in the Gulf to precipitate a crisis now? The answer is that the Trump wrecking ball passed through the region last month

    Normally yet another example of a lefty journalist, with evident animus against Trump, blaming stuff on him can be dismissed as just partisan nonsense. In this case, though, Cockburn is probably correct.

    As for Trump himself, the past few days has been a fine display of his impossible to pin down nature. Is he the seemingly perceptive and independent-minded thinker who chose not to deliver the bits of the speech written for him that endorsed the core pretext of the long obsolete, costly and harmful NATO bureaucracy? Or is he the liar or buffoonish ignoramus who claimed that encouraging the Saudis to bully anyone, even the Qataris, represented “progress” and might “be the beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism”!?

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  30. Randal says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Much more seriously, Mr Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies
     
    Jeez. Patrick, you really should reexamine your sectarian world-view. Your insistence (or pretense?) that Trump (or anyone else among geopolitical elites) gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism is getting outright comical.

    Jeez. Patrick, you really should reexamine your sectarian world-view. Your insistence (or pretense?) that Trump (or anyone else among geopolitical elites) gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism is getting outright comical

    Fwiw, I don’t think the extract you quoted suggests Trump “gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism” – referring to “Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies” doesn’t mean he’s supporting them because they are Sunni.

    That said, surely any rational, honest and patriotic observer of world affairs from a US/European perspective would have such a bias? The Sunni are the perpetrators of almost all jihadist terrorism, whereas the shia’s track record for violence is almost entirely related to resistance to foreign interference and/or Israeli colonialism. And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.

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    Fwiw, I don’t think the extract you quoted suggests Trump “gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism” – referring to “Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies” doesn’t mean he’s supporting them because they are Sunni.
     
    Well, the quote is "Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies", and that's bullshit. Sunnism is not in the calculation on who gets support and who doesn't.

    And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.
     
    Better or worse is in the eye of the beholder. Post-revolutionary Iran is staunchly independent, and that's the only reason. That said, Iran, Persia, is obviously the place of a long civilizational history, intellectual traditions, etc. From what I hear, it commands great respect in the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, mostly invites hatred and ridicule. But that's typical.
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  31. Randal says:
    @Andrei Martyanov
    Just get Soccer World Cup 2022 back to the US. After that, let them go at each-other throats.

    Just get Soccer World Cup 2022 back to the US.

    Only if the Yanks start calling the world’s no.1 sport by its proper name and quit their quaint and parochial usage of the name “football” for their regional sport.

    :-)

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  32. Cockburn generally has a great grasp of ME machinations – he has lived in & reported on ME states for decades.
    It is apparent that ksa has worked with israel to take down Qatar who are guilty of following their ideals rather than pure self-interest.
    Abu Mizen has begun a new conflict with Hamas and seeks to re-establish fatah hegemony over the palestine authority.
    Last week doubtless as part of his fresh agreement with his zionist overlords following the united hamas/fatah hunger strike by liberation fighters held captive by the apartheid state, abu mizen aka Mahmoud Abbas abused his position as palestinian president to curtail PA support payments to the families of those captives believed to have links to hamas, see:

    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-PA-halts-payments-to-250-Hamas-linked-prisoners-freed-by-Israel-494870

    Believe what you will about qatar but they are one of the few Sunni led states which have maintained support for the oppressed indigenous population of the Jordan Valley – chiefly those people locked in the open air prisons of the west bank & Gaza, but also those people who were unilaterally forced to become part of the artificial sunni controlled, but shia populated pseudo-nation Jordan.
    The zionists who stupidly encouraged hamas to undermine fatah now realise that the corruption endemic to fatah makes for a much more comfortable genocide so whilst fatah tries to close domestic revenue streams to hamas the ksa quislings follow israel’s orders and so attempt to terminate the qatari leadership.
    I appreciate that many amerikans have been indoctrinated into the belief that the Muslim Brotherhood is somehow ‘evil’ and there is no problem with ksa bullies trying to destroy qatar, but I would point out that as unconscionable as funding al Nusra is, qatar has always remained far more committed to supporting the average ME battler than ksa ever have and that qatar itself has generally opposed the attempts to degrade the fight against tyranny into sectarianism.
    President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt remains the first and only fairly elected egyptian president and qatar are to be commended for sticking by him, regardless of the damage they have sustained from us/ksa.
    A truly multi-polar world includes a diverse range of leaders including those whose world view does not encompass your own; the qatari leadership have always fought against the arid world that is the engame of ksa & their wahabist fellow travellers.
    This is one more time when we should support a leadership whose views don’t align with our own but whose actions do disclose a committment to anti-imperialism.

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    Qatar is not Sunni, it is 100% Salafism. Salafi are not Sunni they are and Ibadi Takfiri Sect and are not listed as "Sunni".
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  33. KA says:
    @disturbed_robot
    Oh I beg to differ...Having the Gulf States at one another’s throats is an unbelievably happy prospect! Let the Wahabbi scum kill each other off.

    Do you want to see peace in the Middle East? Do you want global terrorism to sharply decline? Well my friend, every gulf nation needs to be flushed down the toilet bowl of history (along with a certain Zionist state) in order for that to happen. Nearly every single problem in the Middle East and terrorism outside of the Middle East can be traced right back to the gulf countries and their Zionist pals.

    I say let the flushing commence!!

    But that’s exactly what won’t happen. I think Saudis know Jordsnian monarch and Kuwait monarch know . Saddam and his predecessor are gone Iran’s PM was gone by 1960 . Suite a fee Syrian nationalists were disappeared by 1955. Memories of the monarchies are fresh , etched in stone and reverberates in folk lore and academic history departments of a few of middle eastern countries despite academic corruption .
    To survive, these monarchies have to do the dirty works for the empire from supplying money and arms to Latin American killeing brigade , offering blood money to rescue Anerican agent from Pakistsn, supplying foot soldiers against Russia , bribing officials from Mali to Sudan to buying useless arms and selling gas in dollars .

    Their crime is their passport to life granted by USA . How couldn’t they not do what they are doing ? Any slowing will bring the sword down their necks . How could they forget the fate of Basher Assad and Ghaddafi and Saddam or of 2002 Somalian government ?
    They can’t .
    How could they forget that the total capitulation to the western demand after 2002 in relation to the foreign policy was what saved them from the Bush – Cheney gang ? Neither they can forget that bribes worked to rehabilitate their images . They learned also to bribe the right group- Israel .

    May be the west has decided that the blowback here and there in London or Betlin or New Yotk is worth the profit to be secured . Unfortunately their voters don’t get it .

    Voters and citizen still wonder and try to find the reason in foreign scriptures and histories and cultures . Part of the reasons is that’s all they are allowed to . Any further questioning will bring the charge of ‘ conspiracy theory’ , ‘ supporting terror , being naive and honest or anti American ‘

    Th

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  35. BVGP says: • Website

    This analysis is 100% incorrect and is not what the Spat is about, if you can call it that. Firstly it is about LIbya. Where Qatar has always been 100% responsible for ISIS not anyone else. And Al Qaeda. Based in Misrata they have Al Qaeda HQ there and Mufti Sheik Ghariyani who even was responsible for an ISIS bomber in the UK 5 years ago. It is also the Base of Abdel Hakim Belhaj who is 2nd in command to Ayman Zawahiri and has always been Director of the Syria Opposition Room using money milked from the Central Bank of Tripoli. He travels currently between Malta and Istanbul – he is CIA and had to quit Malta last week and fled to Istanbul after the Manchester Attack. The Misrata Council is a Shura Council based on Sheik Ghariyani’s Salafism. Both Ghariyani and Belhaj are/were Sheiks of ISIS. Belhaj is photographed frequently with the Sheik of Qatar. Wife of the Sheik of Qatar – Sheikha Moza is photographed with Baron Rothschild.

    The Kabul Blast was Qatar. It targeted the German Embassy. Germany is current UN Envoy to Libya and has done good work recently. UAE is Malaki, the oldest and most peaceful form of Islam. 5 UAE Diplomats were blown up in the Kabul Blast. Next, within 24 hours the UAE Embassy was completely blown up in Qatar, by Qatar. This was what caused the cut in ties, it has NOTHING to do with anything else. The Manchester Bomber is directly linked to Belhaj and Qatar. LIFG. All of the Evidence of which I speak regarding Libya can be found on my Blog to which I have supplied the Link.

    This Cut in Ties is a separate issue to all the rest of it. The announcement by Qatar of a more pragmatic approach to Iran was a Hack. It was hacked and the CIA did it to create a smoke screen.

    There are no Analysts looking at Libya, monitoring Social Media that write these very lazy posts and so called analysis.

    Lastly, Saudi may have been involved with ISIS etc under King Abdullah but that changed when King Slaman came to power and in the last years of Obama and the Iran deal. Qatar continued, supplying ISIS in Libya with 1.5 Billion $ in 2015 alone.

    Al Jazeera Arabic is 100% responsible for ISIS Recruitment. It is also the Base HQ for Al Qaeda and has been since it was kicked out of the UAE at the end of OBL’ s reign. It was operational only in the UAE from the US Military.

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  36. BVGP says: • Website
    @eurekismet
    Cockburn generally has a great grasp of ME machinations - he has lived in & reported on ME states for decades.
    It is apparent that ksa has worked with israel to take down Qatar who are guilty of following their ideals rather than pure self-interest.
    Abu Mizen has begun a new conflict with Hamas and seeks to re-establish fatah hegemony over the palestine authority.
    Last week doubtless as part of his fresh agreement with his zionist overlords following the united hamas/fatah hunger strike by liberation fighters held captive by the apartheid state, abu mizen aka Mahmoud Abbas abused his position as palestinian president to curtail PA support payments to the families of those captives believed to have links to hamas, see:
    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-PA-halts-payments-to-250-Hamas-linked-prisoners-freed-by-Israel-494870
    Believe what you will about qatar but they are one of the few Sunni led states which have maintained support for the oppressed indigenous population of the Jordan Valley - chiefly those people locked in the open air prisons of the west bank & Gaza, but also those people who were unilaterally forced to become part of the artificial sunni controlled, but shia populated pseudo-nation Jordan.
    The zionists who stupidly encouraged hamas to undermine fatah now realise that the corruption endemic to fatah makes for a much more comfortable genocide so whilst fatah tries to close domestic revenue streams to hamas the ksa quislings follow israel's orders and so attempt to terminate the qatari leadership.
    I appreciate that many amerikans have been indoctrinated into the belief that the Muslim Brotherhood is somehow 'evil' and there is no problem with ksa bullies trying to destroy qatar, but I would point out that as unconscionable as funding al Nusra is, qatar has always remained far more committed to supporting the average ME battler than ksa ever have and that qatar itself has generally opposed the attempts to degrade the fight against tyranny into sectarianism.
    President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt remains the first and only fairly elected egyptian president and qatar are to be commended for sticking by him, regardless of the damage they have sustained from us/ksa.
    A truly multi-polar world includes a diverse range of leaders including those whose world view does not encompass your own; the qatari leadership have always fought against the arid world that is the engame of ksa & their wahabist fellow travellers.
    This is one more time when we should support a leadership whose views don't align with our own but whose actions do disclose a committment to anti-imperialism.

    Qatar is not Sunni, it is 100% Salafism. Salafi are not Sunni they are and Ibadi Takfiri Sect and are not listed as “Sunni”.

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    and . . . ?
    silly orientalists remind me of those nerds who imagine unwrapping all the easter eggs in a game is a more crucial issue than playing & having a good time. Sure I indulged in over simplification but unless you're a hasbara stirrer, clearly setting out the fences and the sides the players have usually taken is more illuminating than tediously reciting obscurely arcane diversions. Up until this point the Qatari royal family has sided with the sunni led terrorists and the first and most probable consequence of the ksa clown prince's foolishness will be an end to that.
    ; ' ? distribute as you see fit.
    I have included the last under the supposition that your anal fixation extends to punctuation.
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  37. BVGP says: • Website
    @Fredrik
    Qatar hosts a major foreign military base on its territory. Look up from which country...

    Qatar has always been US NATO HQ for 100% of the current Wars and is also the Base for Al CIAda and ISIS Al Jazeera Arabic.

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  38. BVGP says: • Website
    @dcthrowback
    i suppose the qatari-ksa-usa-turkey-israeli alliance for regime change in syria has fallen apart completely.

    the qataris were gonna get to build their LNG pipeline, the KSA would've gotten another sunni radical client state to manage, the israelis and KSA got to spite the Iranians and the US got to deploy team blue to build ISIS while team red got to fight it, the type of self licking ice cream cone that sells budget submits to Congress that the MIC and deep state just lurve.

    Sy Hersh's rat line is dead, thankfully.

    It is still alive and kicking in Libya. And Qatar are the only entity left doing the Al Qaeda and ISIS thing there. UAE are with Egypt in the East, Bahrain is with Saudi in Tripoli and Qatar is in the new Kabul, Misrata. And Qatar are 100% responsible with Bernard Henry Levy for 100% of ISIS and Al CIAda in Libya, nobody else these days/

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  39. Gandalf says:
    @Renoman
    Muslims killing Muslims, the American dream!

    It’s also the Israeli dream! The US is now selling “lots of beautiful military equipment” to all sides, to all state sponsors of terror, in order to maximize chaos and maximize MIC profits. Several other western nations are also delivering weapons into the region. A conflageration will ensue.

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  40. @Randal

    Jeez. Patrick, you really should reexamine your sectarian world-view. Your insistence (or pretense?) that Trump (or anyone else among geopolitical elites) gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism is getting outright comical
     
    Fwiw, I don't think the extract you quoted suggests Trump "gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism" - referring to "Trump's unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies" doesn't mean he's supporting them because they are Sunni.

    That said, surely any rational, honest and patriotic observer of world affairs from a US/European perspective would have such a bias? The Sunni are the perpetrators of almost all jihadist terrorism, whereas the shia's track record for violence is almost entirely related to resistance to foreign interference and/or Israeli colonialism. And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.

    Fwiw, I don’t think the extract you quoted suggests Trump “gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism” – referring to “Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies” doesn’t mean he’s supporting them because they are Sunni.

    Well, the quote is “Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies”, and that’s bullshit. Sunnism is not in the calculation on who gets support and who doesn’t.

    And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.

    Better or worse is in the eye of the beholder. Post-revolutionary Iran is staunchly independent, and that’s the only reason. That said, Iran, Persia, is obviously the place of a long civilizational history, intellectual traditions, etc. From what I hear, it commands great respect in the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, mostly invites hatred and ridicule. But that’s typical.

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    Better or worse is in the eye of the beholder.
     
    Of course. In this case, a beholder who is (imo) "any rational, honest and patriotic observer of world affairs from a US/European perspective ".
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  41. Randal says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Fwiw, I don’t think the extract you quoted suggests Trump “gives a shit about Sunnism or Shiism” – referring to “Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies” doesn’t mean he’s supporting them because they are Sunni.
     
    Well, the quote is "Trump’s unqualified support for the Sunni monarchies", and that's bullshit. Sunnism is not in the calculation on who gets support and who doesn't.

    And Iran is better on almost every count than Saudi Arabia.
     
    Better or worse is in the eye of the beholder. Post-revolutionary Iran is staunchly independent, and that's the only reason. That said, Iran, Persia, is obviously the place of a long civilizational history, intellectual traditions, etc. From what I hear, it commands great respect in the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, mostly invites hatred and ridicule. But that's typical.

    Better or worse is in the eye of the beholder.

    Of course. In this case, a beholder who is (imo) “any rational, honest and patriotic observer of world affairs from a US/European perspective “.

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  42. @BVGP
    Qatar is not Sunni, it is 100% Salafism. Salafi are not Sunni they are and Ibadi Takfiri Sect and are not listed as "Sunni".

    and . . . ?
    silly orientalists remind me of those nerds who imagine unwrapping all the easter eggs in a game is a more crucial issue than playing & having a good time. Sure I indulged in over simplification but unless you’re a hasbara stirrer, clearly setting out the fences and the sides the players have usually taken is more illuminating than tediously reciting obscurely arcane diversions. Up until this point the Qatari royal family has sided with the sunni led terrorists and the first and most probable consequence of the ksa clown prince’s foolishness will be an end to that.
    ; ‘ ? distribute as you see fit.
    I have included the last under the supposition that your anal fixation extends to punctuation.

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  45. Nigerman says:
    @Johnny F. Ive
    Qatar is a supporter of Al Qaeda (Al Nusra). This is the first time since probably the war in Afghanistan that somebody is taking on a state supporter of Al Qaeda. Qatar has been playing games in the Middle East, contributing to the fanaticism for a long time. This is blow back for all the evil Qatar has engaged in.

    Al Qaeda , Isis and Taliban are all creations of Saudis, this is an undeniable fact. its DNA is all over the place, and now they are playing saint. You can fool some people sometime but you can’t fool all the people all of the time. Personally I don’t believe they (Saudi royals) are Jews but they behave every inch ‘JEWISH’ Ochestrating the killing and destruction of Muslim families, towns, cities and countries without the faintest of remorse.driven by a boy lunatic called deputy crown prince Salman(with childish immature approach to delicate problems……..the Muslims are watching and waiting for the appropriate time.

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