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President Trump leaves the Middle East today, having done his bit to make the region even more divided and mired in conflict than it was before.

At the same moment that Donald Trump was condemning the suicide bomber in Manchester as “an evil loser in life”, he was adding to the chaos in which al-Qaeda and Isis have taken root and flourished.

It may be a long distance between the massacre in Manchester and the wars in the Middle East, but the connection is there.

He blamed “terrorism” almost exclusively on Iran and, by implication, on the Shia minority in the region, while al-Qaeda notoriously developed in the Sunni heartlands and its beliefs and practises primarily stem from Wahhabism, the sectarian and regressive variant of Islam prevalent in Saudi Arabia.

It flies in the face of all known facts to link the wave of terrorist atrocities since 9/11 on the Shia, who have most usually been its target.

This toxic historical myth-making does not deter Trump. “From Lebanon to Iraq to Yemen, Iran funds, arms and trains terrorists, militias and other extremist groups that spread destruction and chaos across the region,” he told an assembly of 55 Sunni leaders in Riyadh on 21 May.

In Israel, he informed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that President Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran in 2015 is “a terrible, terrible thing… we gave them a lifeline”.

By furiously attacking Iran, Trump will encourage Saudi Arabia and Gulf monarchs to escalate their proxy wars throughout the central core of the Middle East. It will encourage Iran to take precautions and assume that a long-term understanding with the US and the Sunni states is becoming less and less feasible.

There are already some signs that Trump’s endorsement of Sunni states, however repressive, is leading to an escalation of hostilities between Sunni and Shia.

In Bahrain, where a Sunni minority rules a Shia majority, the security forces attacked the Shia village of Diraz today. It is home to the island’s leading Shia cleric Sheikh Isa Qassim, who has just received a one-year suspended sentence for financing extremism.

One man in the village is reported to have been killed as the police moved in, using armoured vehicles and firing shotguns and tear gas canisters.

President Obama had frosty relations with the Bahraini rulers because of the mass incarceration of protesters and use of torture when the security forces crushed democratic protests in 2011.

Trump backed away from past policy when he met Bahraini King Hamad in Riyadh at the weekend, saying: “Our countries have a wonderful relationship together, but there has been a little strain, but there won’t be strain with this administration.”

The bombing in Manchester – and atrocities attributed to Isis influence in Paris, Brussels, Nice and Berlin – are similar to even worse slaughter of tens of thousands in Iraq and Syria. These get limited attention in the Western media, but they continually deepen the sectarian war in the Middle East.

ORDER IT NOW

The only feasible way to eliminate organisations capable of carrying out these attacks is to end the seven wars – Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia and north east Nigeria – that cross-infect each other and produce the anarchic conditions in which Isis and al-Qaeda and their clones can grow.

But to end these wars, there needs to be political compromise between main players like Iran and Saudi Arabia and Trump’s belligerent rhetoric makes this almost impossible to achieve.

Of course, the degree to which his bombast should be taken seriously is always uncertain and his declared policies change by the day.

On his return to the US, his attention is going to be fully focused on his own political survival, not leaving much time for new departures, good or bad, in the Middle East and elsewhere. His administration is certainly wounded, but that has not stopped doing as much harm as he could in the Middle East in a short space of time.

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Foreign Policy • Tags: Middle East, Shias and Sunnis, Terrorism 
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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Focus on Terrorism misses the point. Terrorism is NOT the main problem facing the West. If anything, the West would never have allowed Mass Invasion if EVERY Muslim or African were a terrorist. Too dangerous.

    Peaceful invaders are more dangerous than violent ones. Peaceful ones lower the survivalist mechanism of the Native Population.
    In the end, however, it is peaceful invasion that leads to Demographic Imperialism. The ‘peaceful’ transformation will fundamentally and irreversibly change the racial & cultural character of Europe.

    This is why Globalists clamps down on Terrorists. Violent Invasion undermines the Project of Peaceful Invasion. Terrorism triggers survivalist instincts among native European populations who are currently in a state of hibernation and globo-coma.
    It’s no wonder that Globalists target Terrorists and Nationalists the most. Both violent invasion and tough resistance undermine the Globalist Project. What Globalism prefers above all is Peaceful Invasion(by foreign masses) and Peaceful Surrender(of Native Masses). PC and Pop Culture are the main weapons of the Globalists.

    What was the concert promoting? It was promoting Afro-Colonization of White Wombs via Jungle Fever. Terrorism is bad but cannot destroy Europe. Iraq suffered horrible terrorist attacks after US invasion, but it still exists as a nation. Germany and Japan suffered horrible bombings in WWII but still survived. Israel bombed hell out of Gaza. It still exists.

    A people can survive violent attacks.

    But Europe cannot survive the mass invasion of foreigners. It’s like Palestine could not survive massive immigration by Zionist Jews. It’s like Albanian Muslim migration into Kosovo took it away from Serbians.

    The great irony: During WWII, Brits said ‘Nazis will not break our spirit AGAINST Invasion’. Today, Brits say, ‘Terrorism will not break our spirit FOR invasion’. How times have changed.

    Whenever a new attack happens, the Big Message is not ‘no more invasion’ but ‘more invasion’.

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  2. Timster says:

    Yes, but stopping the importation of barbarians on welfare (and ceasing payments to them for them to make welfare babies – as if they’ve ever paid a penny in taxes) is much more more important.

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  3. Oldeguy says:

    Could anything be more blindingly obvious than that the “War On Terrorism” foments terrorism ?

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  4. While social disorder plays a role in terrorism, the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd. Marxist leaning scum like Cockburn reduce everything to dreary material determinism.

    And targeting a hedonistic concert fronted by some pop tartlet? You have to admit its the sort of punishment a decadent society deserves.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey lemurmaniac,

    the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd
     
    Yes, quite absurd which is probably why Mr. Cockburn mentioned:

    while al-Qaeda notoriously developed in the Sunni heartlands and its beliefs and practises primarily stem from Wahhabism, the sectarian and regressive variant of Islam
     
    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.

    Peace.
    , @namer
    People deserve to be murdered for enjoying a consert? because it's 'decadent'? you stupid scum, theres's nothing harmful about recreation, regardless of whether it meets you definition of 'decadent' or not. Be advised fuckwit, we know you right-wing prudes are ready and waiting in the wings to try and 'save western civilization' by imposing your view of what it should be. Just know know that we libertarians are waiting for you, guns loaded.
  5. Talha says:
    @Lemurmaniac
    While social disorder plays a role in terrorism, the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd. Marxist leaning scum like Cockburn reduce everything to dreary material determinism.

    And targeting a hedonistic concert fronted by some pop tartlet? You have to admit its the sort of punishment a decadent society deserves.

    Hey lemurmaniac,

    the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd

    Yes, quite absurd which is probably why Mr. Cockburn mentioned:

    while al-Qaeda notoriously developed in the Sunni heartlands and its beliefs and practises primarily stem from Wahhabism, the sectarian and regressive variant of Islam

    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.
     
    I don't think an 'ideological culprit' is necessary. It would make more sense (imo) to say that the struggle is led by 'people of ideas' (often by educated technical professionals), but I don't think it needs any elaborate ideology, other than vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism. And I don't think this counts as 'ideology'.
  6. 1. I am beginning to admire those Muslim immigrants.
    They have no army, air force, and navy but they want to conquer Europe.

    2. Counter-attack: Alhambra Decree!
    Immigrants must convert to Christianity or go back to the Middle East!

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    They have to go back no matter what. They'll never "assimilate" -- that is a fantasy. The first post of this thread was a longer version of what I'm about to say but the bottom line is they are a racially alien people with conflicting, competing and antagonistic interests towards the host native population and even if they didn't follow Islam pose a physical, existential threat to the European indigenous populations through massive inflow, differential birth rates and promotion of miscegenation such as through an Ariana Grande concert.
    , @Uebersetzer
    Why should they convert to Christianity? Few Europeans believe in it, and Trump a few days ago smooched with Saudis who ban any manifestations of Christianity whatsoever in their own country.
    In the Western media, comments on the Syrian Christian minority's fear of the Islamist-inclined opposition tend to express scorn - as far as these regime change hacks are concerned, any massacres of Christians are deserved because they tend to support Assad. No sense comes through of any empathy with co-religionists because in truth the Western media are not Christian.
  7. Halit says:

    There there there.
    Tell us something we don’t know.
    Only difference is that,you can mention this inconvenient truth but ordinary people can not,on ground that they shouldn’t knew inconvenient truth. And it is not higher interest of the countries that you should know,
    Or,this type of truth or comment is new reality of criminilasation of comment. Although still you might get Knock on your door to explain on what ground you are making this comment?
    What’s your game​?
    Are you with us or with these people?
    What good brings these type of comments?
    If you don’t make these comments hows that effects you? Are you symphatise Russians,Putin perhaps?

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  8. joe z says:

    Unfortunately the President to the United States, no matter who he or she is, is only the Israeli Viceroy. American foreign policy is made in Tel Aviv and enforced by AIPAC. By the way June 8th is the 50th anniversary of Israel’s attack on the Liberty. There will not be even one politician who will recognize the event that killed 34 and injured many others. The life boats were even attacked ( a war crime) Yes they will celebrate memorial Day and laud the sacrifice of American service men, but it will all be hypocrisy.

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  9. Yes, the US and its imperialist running dogs should stop making war in the Middle East and yes, the Sunnis are guilty of more terrorist outrages than the Shia, but we still need to get the Muslims out of western countries.

    We’ve done it before – in Spain in 1492.

    We need to put pressure on the Muslims; either abandon the faith or live elsewhere.

    Muslim countries were not Muslim to begin with. After Muslim conquest, the existing faiths were put under pressure – by the Jizyah and other humiliations. Eventually the conquered succumbed and converted to the invaders faith. We need to do the same.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous White Male
    "We need to put pressure on the Muslims; either abandon the faith or live elsewhere."

    Since all "faiths", even atheism, have been reduced to a meaningless equivalence, you would have to begin re-establishing a "faith" for the West before this can even be addressed. Try taking a religious argument to the secular high courts and see how far you get.
  10. @Talha
    Hey lemurmaniac,

    the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd
     
    Yes, quite absurd which is probably why Mr. Cockburn mentioned:

    while al-Qaeda notoriously developed in the Sunni heartlands and its beliefs and practises primarily stem from Wahhabism, the sectarian and regressive variant of Islam
     
    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.

    Peace.

    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.

    I don’t think an ‘ideological culprit’ is necessary. It would make more sense (imo) to say that the struggle is led by ‘people of ideas’ (often by educated technical professionals), but I don’t think it needs any elaborate ideology, other than vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism. And I don’t think this counts as ‘ideology’.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Mao,

    vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism
     
    I would agree that this is the primary axiom and all other ideological considerations are granted acceptance or rejected based on conformity to the initial premise. In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.

    Password.
  11. ” the only way to end atrocities like Manchester is by ending wars”

    Even the title of this senseless atricle reveals the stupidity and naivity of the author.

    So we end all wars and the automatically the malevolents of every society will then become goody-two-shoes choir boys, and there will be a an another occurance of violence, terrorism, whatever from now to eternity.

    We could say the same thing regarding crime, which is nothing more than “war” on a miniscule basis : We end all wars then there will never be another murder, robbery, rape, mugging, whatever.
    These dumbkopf leftists are simply the scourge and downfall of civilization.

    Myself I consider war to be the ultimate expression of insanity, but ending war is not a remedy for all of mankinds ills, and aside from that the leftists never had any reservations regarding leftist Wars of liberation” which they wholeheartedly accepted and promoted.
    I remember distinctly the German anti-vilolence pacifists collecting monies for south-American socialist revolutions.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airbone qualified US Army vet , and pro jazz musician.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    Meant to say "Will NEVER be another occurance of violence"

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.
  12. Real sad rarely talked about….. most Americans are evil. Please do not tell that they are dumb or asleep. They nourish on stories of massive killings abroad.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    " Most Americans are evil"

    Yeah and I can remember as a ten year old kid bringing clean, old clothes to school for the "Care" program, and since then all the German ingrates do is rip the Americans, with the exception of BO, and the Democrats, 24/7.

    The Morgantau plan would have resolved the German malaise, as WC with his "Boots or throat" theory, was right on the money.

    And as far as "Evil" is concerned : You yourself are abjectly evil, and insane.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

  13. @Ivar the Legless
    Yes, the US and its imperialist running dogs should stop making war in the Middle East and yes, the Sunnis are guilty of more terrorist outrages than the Shia, but we still need to get the Muslims out of western countries.

    We've done it before - in Spain in 1492.

    We need to put pressure on the Muslims; either abandon the faith or live elsewhere.

    Muslim countries were not Muslim to begin with. After Muslim conquest, the existing faiths were put under pressure - by the Jizyah and other humiliations. Eventually the conquered succumbed and converted to the invaders faith. We need to do the same.

    “We need to put pressure on the Muslims; either abandon the faith or live elsewhere.”

    Since all “faiths”, even atheism, have been reduced to a meaningless equivalence, you would have to begin re-establishing a “faith” for the West before this can even be addressed. Try taking a religious argument to the secular high courts and see how far you get.

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  14. thank you for this clear artiicle Patrick and its honest address of the issues.

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  15. namer says:
    @Lemurmaniac
    While social disorder plays a role in terrorism, the idea that these people are not inspired by in part ideas is rather absurd. Marxist leaning scum like Cockburn reduce everything to dreary material determinism.

    And targeting a hedonistic concert fronted by some pop tartlet? You have to admit its the sort of punishment a decadent society deserves.

    People deserve to be murdered for enjoying a consert? because it’s ‘decadent’? you stupid scum, theres’s nothing harmful about recreation, regardless of whether it meets you definition of ‘decadent’ or not. Be advised fuckwit, we know you right-wing prudes are ready and waiting in the wings to try and ‘save western civilization’ by imposing your view of what it should be. Just know know that we libertarians are waiting for you, guns loaded.

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    Libertarianism is a ball-less utopian ideology that is a minority ideology even among the white people who make up almost all adherents. You'll do nothing. You say you'd overthrow warlords but you currently don't overthrow the warlords you call governments. By the way, Hans Hermann-Hoppe, the only big name libertarian thinker I have any respect for would agree with removing communists, democrats and promoters of degeneracy like Ariana Grande (because she promotes destructive behaviors like miscegenation).
  16. Saxon says:
    @Secret Admirer
    1. I am beginning to admire those Muslim immigrants.
    They have no army, air force, and navy but they want to conquer Europe.

    2. Counter-attack: Alhambra Decree!
    Immigrants must convert to Christianity or go back to the Middle East!

    They have to go back no matter what. They’ll never “assimilate” — that is a fantasy. The first post of this thread was a longer version of what I’m about to say but the bottom line is they are a racially alien people with conflicting, competing and antagonistic interests towards the host native population and even if they didn’t follow Islam pose a physical, existential threat to the European indigenous populations through massive inflow, differential birth rates and promotion of miscegenation such as through an Ariana Grande concert.

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    • Replies: @Jim
    Allowing mass emigration of Moslems to Europe is insanity to the nth power. The European elite
    seems obsessed with destroying Europe.
    , @druid
    At first I thought you were talking about Jews!
  17. Saxon says:
    @namer
    People deserve to be murdered for enjoying a consert? because it's 'decadent'? you stupid scum, theres's nothing harmful about recreation, regardless of whether it meets you definition of 'decadent' or not. Be advised fuckwit, we know you right-wing prudes are ready and waiting in the wings to try and 'save western civilization' by imposing your view of what it should be. Just know know that we libertarians are waiting for you, guns loaded.

    Libertarianism is a ball-less utopian ideology that is a minority ideology even among the white people who make up almost all adherents. You’ll do nothing. You say you’d overthrow warlords but you currently don’t overthrow the warlords you call governments. By the way, Hans Hermann-Hoppe, the only big name libertarian thinker I have any respect for would agree with removing communists, democrats and promoters of degeneracy like Ariana Grande (because she promotes destructive behaviors like miscegenation).

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  18. Sean says:

    But to end these wars, there needs to be political compromise between main players like Iran and Saudi Arabia and Trump’s belligerent rhetoric makes this almost impossible to achieve.

    A little progress by cockburn toward recognizing that this is a national conflict between Persians and Arabs, but the only way that both Saudi and Iran will want to compromise is if they run out of money and the only way that would happen is if the price of oil goes down.

    Will Opec extend output cuts in bid to push up oil prices?“Two key players have already agreed that they want to extend the existing limit until March next year: Opec’s biggest producer, Saudi Arabia, and Russia, the biggest exporter outside the organisation”.

    Trump’s energy policy is exerting severe pressure on the financial ability of Saudi and Iran to continue the war in Syria. Russia is also being hurt. Fracking will mean an end to silly money for the world’s troublemakers.

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  19. Talha says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    Now you may not agree with his specific conclusion, but he nevertheless points out what he feels is the ideological culprit.
     
    I don't think an 'ideological culprit' is necessary. It would make more sense (imo) to say that the struggle is led by 'people of ideas' (often by educated technical professionals), but I don't think it needs any elaborate ideology, other than vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism. And I don't think this counts as 'ideology'.

    Hey Mao,

    vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism

    I would agree that this is the primary axiom and all other ideological considerations are granted acceptance or rejected based on conformity to the initial premise. In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.

    Password.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    LOL! "Password" - thanks auto-correct!
    , @Mao Cheng Ji

    In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.
     
    Correct. That's why they tend to be technical professionals, accustomed to math and technical concept of 'cause and effect': engineers, architects, economists.
  20. Talha says:
    @Talha
    Hey Mao,

    vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism
     
    I would agree that this is the primary axiom and all other ideological considerations are granted acceptance or rejected based on conformity to the initial premise. In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.

    Password.

    LOL! “Password” – thanks auto-correct!

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  21. Don G. says:

    This is closer to identifying the problem than Justin Raimondo’s piece at antiwar.com. The wars have been going on since before 911, they have been constant since the fall of the Soviet Union which allowed the US to start the first war against Iraq.

    So it’s not a fight against terrorism at all. It’s the US march to empire and the few American casualties are the cost of empire.

    Coming to recognize that truth would be the first step in stopping the wars. Then terrorist revenge attacks stop too.

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  22. @Talha
    Hey Mao,

    vigorous (obsessive) opposition to western imperialism
     
    I would agree that this is the primary axiom and all other ideological considerations are granted acceptance or rejected based on conformity to the initial premise. In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.

    Password.

    In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.

    Correct. That’s why they tend to be technical professionals, accustomed to math and technical concept of ’cause and effect’: engineers, architects, economists.

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Mao,

    Praise the Lord - someone gets it!

    The 'fatwa' that was given for the assassination of Sadat was given by Abdus-salam Faraj - an electrical engineer:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_abd-al-Salam_Faraj

    They live in a world of complete cause and effect, wholly devoid of metaphysical consequences or analysis. And they even screw up on the cause and effect part because all they have brought upon the Muslim world is worsening conditions. Does any sane person think the Muslim world is better off now (if the whole idea was safeguarding Muslim lives) than at the turn of the century?

    Peace.

  23. Jim says:
    @Saxon
    They have to go back no matter what. They'll never "assimilate" -- that is a fantasy. The first post of this thread was a longer version of what I'm about to say but the bottom line is they are a racially alien people with conflicting, competing and antagonistic interests towards the host native population and even if they didn't follow Islam pose a physical, existential threat to the European indigenous populations through massive inflow, differential birth rates and promotion of miscegenation such as through an Ariana Grande concert.

    Allowing mass emigration of Moslems to Europe is insanity to the nth power. The European elite
    seems obsessed with destroying Europe.

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  24. Jim says:

    Patrick – US intervention in the Middle East as in Iraq and Syria is an extraordinarily stupid policy which has certainly lead to much greater instability. But allowing the mass emigration of Moslems to Europe is a policy of madness almost beyond anything in history.

    One thing is clear. If Islamization comes it will only come to Western Europe not to Eastern Europe. If that happens there will be massively bloody conflict in Europe between Western and Eastern Europe.

    What has happened in Manchester is nothing compared to what is coming if the Moslem onslaught is not halted.

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  25. Talha says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji

    In addition to obsessive, I would add amoral or utilitarian.
     
    Correct. That's why they tend to be technical professionals, accustomed to math and technical concept of 'cause and effect': engineers, architects, economists.

    Hey Mao,

    Praise the Lord – someone gets it!

    The ‘fatwa’ that was given for the assassination of Sadat was given by Abdus-salam Faraj – an electrical engineer:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_abd-al-Salam_Faraj

    They live in a world of complete cause and effect, wholly devoid of metaphysical consequences or analysis. And they even screw up on the cause and effect part because all they have brought upon the Muslim world is worsening conditions. Does any sane person think the Muslim world is better off now (if the whole idea was safeguarding Muslim lives) than at the turn of the century?

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji

    And they even screw up on the cause and effect part because all they have brought upon the Muslim world is worsening conditions.
     
    This reminds me of a quip by George Orwell; I'm rephrasing (can't find the original): if you ask a revolutionary 'why so much cruelty and bloodshed?' they'll tell you: 'you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs'. And when you say 'fine, but where's the omelet?', they reply that Rome wasn't built in a day...

    Same thing.

  26. druid says:
    @Saxon
    They have to go back no matter what. They'll never "assimilate" -- that is a fantasy. The first post of this thread was a longer version of what I'm about to say but the bottom line is they are a racially alien people with conflicting, competing and antagonistic interests towards the host native population and even if they didn't follow Islam pose a physical, existential threat to the European indigenous populations through massive inflow, differential birth rates and promotion of miscegenation such as through an Ariana Grande concert.

    At first I thought you were talking about Jews!

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    • Replies: @anon
    Of course...all those Jewish suicide bombers committing carnage all across Europe.
    , @Saxon
    They're the ones ultimate responsible for flinging open the gates to mass immigration in the first place and should go live in their newly conquered territory among their own--I'm sorry though, did you have an actual argument with this comment?
  27. @Authenticjazzman
    " the only way to end atrocities like Manchester is by ending wars"

    Even the title of this senseless atricle reveals the stupidity and naivity of the author.

    So we end all wars and the automatically the malevolents of every society will then become goody-two-shoes choir boys, and there will be a an another occurance of violence, terrorism, whatever from now to eternity.

    We could say the same thing regarding crime, which is nothing more than "war" on a miniscule basis : We end all wars then there will never be another murder, robbery, rape, mugging, whatever.
    These dumbkopf leftists are simply the scourge and downfall of civilization.

    Myself I consider war to be the ultimate expression of insanity, but ending war is not a remedy for all of mankinds ills, and aside from that the leftists never had any reservations regarding leftist Wars of liberation" which they wholeheartedly accepted and promoted.
    I remember distinctly the German anti-vilolence pacifists collecting monies for south-American socialist revolutions.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airbone qualified US Army vet , and pro jazz musician.

    Meant to say “Will NEVER be another occurance of violence”

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

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  28. In 2007 General Clark revealed the US plan to “take out… 7 countries in 5 years” .

    The 9/11 bombers and Al Qaeda began as a in response to US military in Saudi Arabia.

    Stop US invasions and bombings in other countries, and their citizens will not retaliate with the primitive means they have. Hundreds of thousands have been killed, and millions made homeless from US wars in the mideast.

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  29. @Secret Admirer
    1. I am beginning to admire those Muslim immigrants.
    They have no army, air force, and navy but they want to conquer Europe.

    2. Counter-attack: Alhambra Decree!
    Immigrants must convert to Christianity or go back to the Middle East!

    Why should they convert to Christianity? Few Europeans believe in it, and Trump a few days ago smooched with Saudis who ban any manifestations of Christianity whatsoever in their own country.
    In the Western media, comments on the Syrian Christian minority’s fear of the Islamist-inclined opposition tend to express scorn – as far as these regime change hacks are concerned, any massacres of Christians are deserved because they tend to support Assad. No sense comes through of any empathy with co-religionists because in truth the Western media are not Christian.

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  30. @george Archers
    Real sad rarely talked about..... most Americans are evil. Please do not tell that they are dumb or asleep. They nourish on stories of massive killings abroad.

    ” Most Americans are evil”

    Yeah and I can remember as a ten year old kid bringing clean, old clothes to school for the “Care” program, and since then all the German ingrates do is rip the Americans, with the exception of BO, and the Democrats, 24/7.

    The Morgantau plan would have resolved the German malaise, as WC with his “Boots or throat” theory, was right on the money.

    And as far as “Evil” is concerned : You yourself are abjectly evil, and insane.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  31. The pro-Israel proxy wars must stop. The destruction/destabilization of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Iran serve no compelling US interest. They actually undermine global stability. Only Israel benefits by the destruction of these distant, anti-Zionist regimes.

    Further, these Anglo-Zionist wars drive refugees from N. Africa and the Middle East into Western Europe. Israel, on the other hand, pays no price. Its nuclear-fortified walls are impenetrable. This demographic shift in white Europe and white America however will change us irrevocably. Meanwhile, Israel gains more traction, more land, more influence, and greater cohesion.

    The latest terror attack in Manchester may generate big headlines but, in the scheme of things, it amounts to very little. Suicide bombings are mere pinpricks on the ankle of the Anglo-Zionist empire. It’s ordinary people who quietly suffer.

    The waves of angry and impoverished refugees into the West are the greatest, long-term threat to our way of life. Ironically, Anglo-Zionist foreign polices are driving this dangerous influx. We appear to be on a trajectory towards self-destruction.

    As the US and NATO squander trillions on the War on Terror, their demographic base gets more diluted and damaged. Like Rome, we are gradually imploding from within. And the global security state expands..

    All the indicators are flashing red. But the political establishment on both sides of the Atlantic is taking its cues from the Zions. This is sabotage. If the Zions get their way, the cultural chaos and political alienation throughout America and Europe will only grow. Warring factions makes the world safer for Jews.

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  32. I’m in full agreement with this article’s author, Patrick Coburn. He’s written several like-minded columns through the years, and this one, I believe, is among his best.
    Mr. Coburn’s 100% correct when he stated that the only way to stop atrocities such as Manchester is by ending all of the perpetual wars of aggression by the US/UK/NATO/Israel. Truth is, the nations being attacked by this evil axis have no other means of retaliation except through guerrilla wars and/or terrorism .. And it’s easier for these terrorists to attack “soft” targets, such as pop concerts (Manchester), nightclubs (Orlando), markets (Germany), etc.
    The US has up to 1,000 military bases overseas, which are totally unnecessary and must be closed down, and all troops brought back home. The US and its allies must also totally withdraw from Afghanistan, since it can NEVER be conquered. No outside forces have ever conquered it; mainly, due to its inhospitable terrain and the fierce warrior tribes who inhabit it.
    “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” ~ Georges Santayana

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    Islam has been doing this for over a thousand years before there was a British empire or anyone else to blame for any of this. They won't stop killing us and raping our girls until we expel them back to whence they came and you're a utopian fool who thinks multiracialism ends in us singing kumbaya around a campfire if you think it will.

    They have openly stated their end goal for presence in our countries is the same as it's always been; Conquest. You had better start taking their word for it.
  33. @Talha
    Hey Mao,

    Praise the Lord - someone gets it!

    The 'fatwa' that was given for the assassination of Sadat was given by Abdus-salam Faraj - an electrical engineer:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_abd-al-Salam_Faraj

    They live in a world of complete cause and effect, wholly devoid of metaphysical consequences or analysis. And they even screw up on the cause and effect part because all they have brought upon the Muslim world is worsening conditions. Does any sane person think the Muslim world is better off now (if the whole idea was safeguarding Muslim lives) than at the turn of the century?

    Peace.

    And they even screw up on the cause and effect part because all they have brought upon the Muslim world is worsening conditions.

    This reminds me of a quip by George Orwell; I’m rephrasing (can’t find the original): if you ask a revolutionary ‘why so much cruelty and bloodshed?’ they’ll tell you: ‘you can’t make an omelet without breaking eggs’. And when you say ‘fine, but where’s the omelet?’, they reply that Rome wasn’t built in a day…

    Same thing.

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  34. Hi PC, absolutely agree with you, they have lives too, they’re not immune to grief, almost all of them are defenseless, as misguided as they might be (suicide is an unforgivable sin in Islam), they’ll never see paradise with suicide method (actually this is a Buddhist and Hindu practice, started by Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, on their fight against the Buddhist controlled regime in Colombo). True Islam has nothing to do with this kind of behavior, you do it and you seize to be a Muslim.
    We have taken all kind of pride in showing our muscles to the defenseless (we wouldn’t dare do it to China over Tibet or Xinjiang, or the Soviets in Eastern Europe and Afghanistan)….Most bullies are actually cowards. We are no exception. But we have a much more advanced brain in Ziocons, AIPAC, the Knesset, and our holly leader, bibi warcriminyahu…………………..
    And without an iota of shame, again, with orders from the tribe the people and the country of Iran is accused, and we, with all our “allies” are buying into this fabricated idiocy. Wahhabis, where Trump had a feast of whatever crap they fed him and $billions in our war crimes factories of killing machines, still wants us in the most dangerous adventure with Iran. Are we really that dumb? I guess we’re…

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  35. nsa says:

    To paraphrase Lincoln: “these wars were waged so government of the jooies, by the jooies, for the jooies shall not perish from the earth”.

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  36. anon says: • Disclaimer

    The way to stop it is simply not to let these people into your country. No Muslims in Britain, no Muslim terrorism in Britain. Much crapola is being made about him being “born in Britain”, so what? He is certainly not British. Had his Arab parents not been allowed into the U.K. he wouldn’t have been there. Muslim immigration, or “refugee” nonsense is a cancer. It is a Trojan horse for Muslim violence and terror.

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  37. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @druid
    At first I thought you were talking about Jews!

    Of course…all those Jewish suicide bombers committing carnage all across Europe.

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  38. Saxon says:
    @druid
    At first I thought you were talking about Jews!

    They’re the ones ultimate responsible for flinging open the gates to mass immigration in the first place and should go live in their newly conquered territory among their own–I’m sorry though, did you have an actual argument with this comment?

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  39. Saxon says:
    @Eileen Kuch
    I'm in full agreement with this article's author, Patrick Coburn. He's written several like-minded columns through the years, and this one, I believe, is among his best.
    Mr. Coburn's 100% correct when he stated that the only way to stop atrocities such as Manchester is by ending all of the perpetual wars of aggression by the US/UK/NATO/Israel. Truth is, the nations being attacked by this evil axis have no other means of retaliation except through guerrilla wars and/or terrorism .. And it's easier for these terrorists to attack "soft" targets, such as pop concerts (Manchester), nightclubs (Orlando), markets (Germany), etc.
    The US has up to 1,000 military bases overseas, which are totally unnecessary and must be closed down, and all troops brought back home. The US and its allies must also totally withdraw from Afghanistan, since it can NEVER be conquered. No outside forces have ever conquered it; mainly, due to its inhospitable terrain and the fierce warrior tribes who inhabit it.
    "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." ~ Georges Santayana

    Islam has been doing this for over a thousand years before there was a British empire or anyone else to blame for any of this. They won’t stop killing us and raping our girls until we expel them back to whence they came and you’re a utopian fool who thinks multiracialism ends in us singing kumbaya around a campfire if you think it will.

    They have openly stated their end goal for presence in our countries is the same as it’s always been; Conquest. You had better start taking their word for it.

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  40. FredFish says:

    @joez

    June 8th is the 50th anniversary of Israel’s attack on the Liberty.

    I sincerely want to understand why, when attacked, people think Israel was the aggressor, and how they are considered an attacker on Liberty, when they are the only free nation in the ME? And how the “occupation” is illegal, when they legally, under international law, acquired that territory, which did NOT belong to any sovereign nation at the time, in defense of their country (not to mention their existence)?

    And why, if Israel is so bad, that 25% of their population is Arabic, and most of them happy to live under such oppression? And please, leave out the lies about the ‘Palestinian’ people. There’s never been any such thing and the origins of that phrase date back to the Romans who started calling the region Palestine for no other reason than to piss of the Jews.

    I’ve heard all the atrocities committed by the Jews. I can’t say I’d react any different to people that wanted me and my kin to disappear from the face of the earth.

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