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The allegation that an espionage agent spying for Israel is in danger of losing his life because President Trump revealed classified information is deeply damaging to him. It is said that he told senior Russian officials that the spy had disclosed details of an Isis plot to blow up planes by placing explosives inside laptops carried on board.

The Israeli spy story is so damaging to Mr Trump because it is simpler and more concrete than vague accusations that his presidential election campaign was aided by Russia. But in both cases the allegations should be treated with caution because they come from US intelligence agencies and mass media that are engaged in a fierce struggle for power and influence with Mr Trump and are hence highly partisan.

Generally speaking, Western and regional intelligence agencies have a poor record in penetrating or gathering intelligence about Isis since it re-emerged as a military force in 2012-13. The identity of many of its leaders remains unknown and others who were reported killed have turned out to be alive. Isis itself is obsessively secretive and has executed many whom it accused of gathering information about it.

The degree to which classified information was disclosed remains uncertain. According to the report in The New York Times, claiming that Israel was the source of the secret intelligence Mr Trump disclosed to the Russians, it was only after his meeting with them that “the information was flagged as too sensitive to be shared, even among many American officials”.

The most specific accusation is that Mr Trump revealed the name of the city where the spy learned that Isis was developing a bomb to be hidden in batteries that could be placed in a laptop, kindle or iPad to be carried aboard a plane by a passenger. This has led to such items being banned by US and UK from the passenger compartments of aircraft flying from airports in ten Muslim countries. Critics of the move say these items may pose an even greater threat to a plane when stored in the hold of an aircraft.

Isis does not now control many cities or town in Iraq and Syria, having lost them over the last two years. In Syria, it still controls Raqqa, though this is expected to be attacked soon, part of Deir Ezzor not held by the Syrian armed forces and Mayadeen further east. In Iraq, it no longer controls significant urban areas as the siege of Mosul draws to a close, but in both countries it holds large rural areas. If there is a spy working for the Israelis, it is just possible that Isis might be alerted to his identity by the naming of a city such as Raqqa but it is not very likely.

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The defence of Mr Trump by his National Security Adviser, Gen HR McMaster is being treated with scepticism by the US media, but may well be true on present evidence. He said that no secrets had been revealed and what was said “was nothing that you would not know from open source reporting”.

Israel has been quick to say that it still has confidence in its security relationship with the US, which is scarcely surprising since it is very much the junior partner. The reputation of Mossad tends to be higher abroad than inside Israel, where in the 1990s it was discovered that the country’s most trusted spy in Syria for over a decade had been invented by an Israeli security official who was pocketing large sums of money supposedly paid to the source who was meant to be working as a top level official in Damascus.

Mr Trump starts on his first foreign tour as President on Friday beginning in Saudi Arabia and going on to Israel, but the unrelenting furore in Washington since he fired James Comey as head of the FBI is likely to overshadow his talks with regional rulers. Saudi Arabia and the coalition of Sunni states that it leads will seek to draw the US into its escalating confrontation with Iran. While Saudi Arabia and Israel makes belligerent noises towards Iran, their policy has always been to encourage the US to fight for regime change in Tehran, but not to do so themselves.

The political battles between Mr Trump and his opponents in the US are now so intense that it will be difficult for him to initiate new policies in the Middle East or elsewhere. There are growing doubts about his political longevity in states like Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey who welcomed his election last November. They are finding that his policies in Syria and Iraq are so far very similar to those of President Obama whose military interventionism was greater than he was credited for. It is possible, however, that Mr Trump may feel that military action against Isis will help him survive the mounting political crisis at home.

(Republished from The Independent by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. I don’t care what Trump did or did not do or say. Trumps enemies are my enemies.

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    I don’t care what Trump did or did not do or say. Trumps enemies are my enemies.
     
    My prediction - if Trump is impeached - whether he is removed or not - any Republican who joins in the effort is likely to be primaried.
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  2. Wait a minute! Didn’t they tell us weeks ago that the laptop-bomb intel was gathered on the botched Yemen raid for which they said Trump should be impeached?

    Seriously, Trump sits atop most of the chains of command of the agencies and services than can classify anything, so he has the legal capacity to pretty much declassify and/or release anything as he sees fit. And does anyone seriously believe McMaster et al didn’t sanitise things enough for the release that Trump made?

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  3. Who cares what Israel thinks. They were A-Ok at the height of the Cold War with giving US secrets stolen by Jonny Boy Pollard to the Russians. And they didn’t mind selling US tech to the Chinese during the regime of Clinton the Philanderer.

    Oh no! Israel might ask to have it’s BFF charm back and will quit taking billions in welfare from the American tax payer! Don’t throw me in that briar patch.

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    Quite so but the primary issue with the info supposedly released is that it allegedly endangers the agent in place. One has to respect the risks taken by such people and never endanger them by casual release of their info.

    The issue us not whether Israel is or is not angry about the release. Or is hypocritical in being angry.
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  4. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    This is really to sabotage any friendly ties between US and Russia.

    Also, there would have been nothing wrong with passing such info to help Russia against ISIS if it hadn’t been leaked. It would have remained a secret.

    So, blame the leakers and blame the media that reported it.

    Let us reverse this.

    Suppose Russia got info and passed it to the US to save US lives and aid American war on terror.

    What would be wrong with it?

    The thing is Russia is NOT our enemy. But the Globalists say Russia is.

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  5. Trump should be publicly asking, “Who among my staff betrayed my trust and the public trust by revealing what was said in private in the Oval Office? The person or persons responsible will be fired and prosecuted when we find out who it was.”

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  6. Such nonsense! Would Israel give a dam if American lives were put in danger? ISIS is its creation and ally, and Israeli leaders have stated publicly that they prefer ISIS to prevail over Syrian forces. This is but another scheme to undermine the election of a president by the American deplorables et al. The wrath of the ordinary American has yet to be unleashed, and when it does, there will be extreme danger.

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  7. @WorkingClass
    I don't care what Trump did or did not do or say. Trumps enemies are my enemies.

    I don’t care what Trump did or did not do or say. Trumps enemies are my enemies.

    My prediction – if Trump is impeached – whether he is removed or not – any Republican who joins in the effort is likely to be primaried.

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    Trumps enemies have much more to fear than electoral defeat.

    For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.
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  8. The laptop “leak” tale is absurd.

    1. There have been numerous news reports in past weeks that the USA does not permit laptops on flights from most Muslim nations, and may extend that ban to Europe. If you can’t figure out why, you’re an idiot.

    2. If ISIS did find a crafty way to place a bomb in a laptop, the USA should have informed Russia and everyone immediately! Why didn’t Israel inform everyone immediately? Is someone upset that Trump may have thwarted ISIS plans to blow up a Russian civilian airliner?

    3. President Trump discussed this issue with other heads of states. The only “leak” was from the traitor who gave info on Trump’s private meeting to the WashPo coup plotters. Trump is the executive branch, and he decides what can be shared with whoever, not some unknown un-elected bureaucrat in DC.

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    In 2009 I took a laptop through a TSA checkpoint. They wanted me to turn it on to show it was just a laptop.

    Obviously they knew then laptops could be a danger.
    , @El Dato

    1. There have been numerous news reports in past weeks that the USA does not permit laptops on flights from most Muslim nations, and may extend that ban to Europe. If you can’t figure out why, you’re an idiot.
     
    Actually, the laptops are supposed to be PUT IN THE HOLD, as opposed to be carry-on baggage.

    Pilots understandably are less than thrilled about the possibility of a battery fire breaking out in the hold (no-one is talking about the mythical bomb lappy yet), as opposed to in the overhead locker. In only one of those cases can the fire be controlled.

    It is however possible that an explosion in the hold has marginally better changes of being survivable than an explosion in the cabin.

    This security theather first emerged on March 20:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/tsa_bans_devices_bigger_than_phones_certain_airlines/

    The EASA was not happy:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/06/stow_devices_in_cabin_baggage_says_regulator/

    It reemerged recently:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/10/laptops_banned_from_cabins_europe_to_us/

    The EU says no to this:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/18/no_ban_on_euro_flights_to_us_yet/

    Is someone upset that Trump may have thwarted ISIS plans to blow up a Russian civilian airliner?
     
    Another https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268 ? (See also http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/11/05/who-downed-metrojet-flight-9268/ )

    The medja would love it, the gloating would be tremendous.
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  9. Dingo says:

    More likely it’s an Israeli plot to put explosives inside laptops on planes, which is what’s irritating about Trump’s loose lips. Mossad is a world class expert at such things, especially making it look like someone else did it.

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  10. Ace says:
    @Chris Mallory
    Who cares what Israel thinks. They were A-Ok at the height of the Cold War with giving US secrets stolen by Jonny Boy Pollard to the Russians. And they didn't mind selling US tech to the Chinese during the regime of Clinton the Philanderer.

    Oh no! Israel might ask to have it's BFF charm back and will quit taking billions in welfare from the American tax payer! Don't throw me in that briar patch.

    Quite so but the primary issue with the info supposedly released is that it allegedly endangers the agent in place. One has to respect the risks taken by such people and never endanger them by casual release of their info.

    The issue us not whether Israel is or is not angry about the release. Or is hypocritical in being angry.

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    Israel and their boy Jonny Pollard caused the deaths of American agents. A little turn about is more than fair play.

    If you take the King's coin, death usually follows.
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  11. Ace says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    The laptop "leak" tale is absurd.

    1. There have been numerous news reports in past weeks that the USA does not permit laptops on flights from most Muslim nations, and may extend that ban to Europe. If you can't figure out why, you're an idiot.

    2. If ISIS did find a crafty way to place a bomb in a laptop, the USA should have informed Russia and everyone immediately! Why didn't Israel inform everyone immediately? Is someone upset that Trump may have thwarted ISIS plans to blow up a Russian civilian airliner?

    3. President Trump discussed this issue with other heads of states. The only "leak" was from the traitor who gave info on Trump's private meeting to the WashPo coup plotters. Trump is the executive branch, and he decides what can be shared with whoever, not some unknown un-elected bureaucrat in DC.

    In 2009 I took a laptop through a TSA checkpoint. They wanted me to turn it on to show it was just a laptop.

    Obviously they knew then laptops could be a danger.

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  12. TheJester says:

    I thought the intelligence about Trump passing intelligence to the Russians came from Israel from an unknown source. Excellent grounds for impeaching an American president.

    But it does make sense for Israel to be in the middle of the movement to remove Trump from power by using the full power of the American Jewish lobby to this end. Trump has been pressing both sides in the Israeli-Palestinian dispute to make peace. Peace would mean that seven million Jews would have to share Palestine/Israel (or whatever they call it) with seven million Arabs. Unacceptable!

    America is going to have to learn the hard lesson that Israel has veto power over who occupies the White House.

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  13. Fuzzy says:

    Putting bombs in electronic devices has been known. This story was dated April 1. How is this classified top secret information?

    https://www.rt.com/usa/383066-terrorists-laptop-bombs-airport/

    Maybe the Deep State should read the Russian Times more!

    Do you really think that the Russians are unaware of this without the help of Donald Trump? We are a nation of idiots.

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  14. Trump didn’t reveal sources or methods of intelligence collection; it was the New York Time that did the revealing.

    In an alternate reality where honesty is important, the New York Times would be prosecuted for sedition and Trump would be recognized as a hero.

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  15. @Ace
    Quite so but the primary issue with the info supposedly released is that it allegedly endangers the agent in place. One has to respect the risks taken by such people and never endanger them by casual release of their info.

    The issue us not whether Israel is or is not angry about the release. Or is hypocritical in being angry.

    Israel and their boy Jonny Pollard caused the deaths of American agents. A little turn about is more than fair play.

    If you take the King’s coin, death usually follows.

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  16. miikhas says:

    The Zionazi regime in occupied Palestine is all over Syria and Russia is having a time of their lives, playing “whack-a-mole”, i.e blowing the “israeli” cover and smoking the rat-nosed inbreeds out.

    Last year Russia deliberately bombed a command centre in Lattakia manned by Turks, Saudi Barbarians and wait for it, “israelis”. US, “israel” and Turkey went ape-shit but couldn’t obviously do anything about it.

    This centre was commanding ISIS cutthroats in the region, supported by US satellites, intel and weapons. It would make much more sense that “israel” in cooperation with Saudi Barbaria has, not spies, but moles or people actually commanding Isis in Syria, people like “al Bagdadi” or rather “Schlomo-al-Tel Avivi”,….

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    Baghdadi, "Big Daddy", I mean, we got it already.
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  17. DaveE says:

    The more Israel is humiliated, the louder her “international citizens” squeal. Call it DaveE’s Law of the Israelite.

    Their latest scam to fall flat on its face is, of course, the “Russia did it” lie, with all its corresponding sub-plots, like this one. But yet we continue to expose them, so as the squeal becomes deafening, things like this emerge:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-16/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-shared-44000-emails-wikileaks

    Yet another direct link to the silencing of anyone who contradicts “the narrative”, even Jewish ones. How does this impact the ME? Easy, it makes the good-guys VERY excited and energized.

    I’m not so optimistic about Americans , though. Too many still believe the Israelites couldn’t possibly stoop THAT low.

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  18. DaveE says:
    @miikhas
    The Zionazi regime in occupied Palestine is all over Syria and Russia is having a time of their lives, playing "whack-a-mole", i.e blowing the "israeli" cover and smoking the rat-nosed inbreeds out.

    Last year Russia deliberately bombed a command centre in Lattakia manned by Turks, Saudi Barbarians and wait for it, "israelis". US, "israel" and Turkey went ape-shit but couldn't obviously do anything about it.

    This centre was commanding ISIS cutthroats in the region, supported by US satellites, intel and weapons. It would make much more sense that "israel" in cooperation with Saudi Barbaria has, not spies, but moles or people actually commanding Isis in Syria, people like "al Bagdadi" or rather "Schlomo-al-Tel Avivi",....

    Baghdadi, “Big Daddy”, I mean, we got it already.

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  19. JohnDough says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised if it was discovered that Jared Kushner is passing US state secrets to Israel and the media. The witch hunt for Russia is so obvious. No country in the world influences US elections more than Israel and that’s a fact. Just look at our bought and paid for Congress. 100% pro Israel, the only subject they all agree on!

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  20. Blake says:

    Putin loves the obnoxious illegitimate psycho child ‘israel’ as much as the US does.

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  21. El Dato says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    The laptop "leak" tale is absurd.

    1. There have been numerous news reports in past weeks that the USA does not permit laptops on flights from most Muslim nations, and may extend that ban to Europe. If you can't figure out why, you're an idiot.

    2. If ISIS did find a crafty way to place a bomb in a laptop, the USA should have informed Russia and everyone immediately! Why didn't Israel inform everyone immediately? Is someone upset that Trump may have thwarted ISIS plans to blow up a Russian civilian airliner?

    3. President Trump discussed this issue with other heads of states. The only "leak" was from the traitor who gave info on Trump's private meeting to the WashPo coup plotters. Trump is the executive branch, and he decides what can be shared with whoever, not some unknown un-elected bureaucrat in DC.

    1. There have been numerous news reports in past weeks that the USA does not permit laptops on flights from most Muslim nations, and may extend that ban to Europe. If you can’t figure out why, you’re an idiot.

    Actually, the laptops are supposed to be PUT IN THE HOLD, as opposed to be carry-on baggage.

    Pilots understandably are less than thrilled about the possibility of a battery fire breaking out in the hold (no-one is talking about the mythical bomb lappy yet), as opposed to in the overhead locker. In only one of those cases can the fire be controlled.

    It is however possible that an explosion in the hold has marginally better changes of being survivable than an explosion in the cabin.

    This security theather first emerged on March 20:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/20/tsa_bans_devices_bigger_than_phones_certain_airlines/

    The EASA was not happy:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/06/stow_devices_in_cabin_baggage_says_regulator/

    It reemerged recently:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/10/laptops_banned_from_cabins_europe_to_us/

    The EU says no to this:

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/18/no_ban_on_euro_flights_to_us_yet/

    Is someone upset that Trump may have thwarted ISIS plans to blow up a Russian civilian airliner?

    Another https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268 ? (See also http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2015/11/05/who-downed-metrojet-flight-9268/ )

    The medja would love it, the gloating would be tremendous.

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  22. Kirt says:

    Latest story is that the info came from a Jordanian, not an Israeli spy. Who knows? In the treacherous world of intelligence, you don’t even know who your own spies are really working for.

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  23. @Johann Ricke

    I don’t care what Trump did or did not do or say. Trumps enemies are my enemies.
     
    My prediction - if Trump is impeached - whether he is removed or not - any Republican who joins in the effort is likely to be primaried.

    Trumps enemies have much more to fear than electoral defeat.

    For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.

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  24. Svigor says:

    As someone on this site suggested recently, Trump should turn some investigators loose on (((Big Media))), find out where they’re doing their Journolist thing these days. Because they all read from the same playbook. Twice in one day, NPR mouth-breathers led with “Trump is going to Saudi Arabia, but he can’t escape the Russia scandal.” These people are insufferable parasites on humanity. It’s time humanity started fighting back.

    The most specific accusation is that Mr Trump revealed the name of the city where the spy learned that Isis was developing a bomb to be hidden in batteries that could be placed in a laptop, kindle or iPad to be carried aboard a plane by a passenger. This has led to such items being banned by US and UK from the passenger compartments of aircraft flying from airports in ten Muslim countries. Critics of the move say these items may pose an even greater threat to a plane when stored in the hold of an aircraft.

    How is it legal to selectively ban laptops on flights from towelhead countries, when it’s “illegal” to selectively ban immigrants from towelhead countries, according to our usurping shouldn’t-get-too-comfy-with-the-current-travesty black-robed lords and ladies of the bench? Where’s a federal subversive judge when you need one?

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  25. Svigor says:

    Meant to type subversive judge, but it works either way.

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