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“We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there,” wrote President Donald Trump, as he ordered the withdrawal of all U.S. forces from Syria, stunning the U.S. foreign policy establishment.

Trump overruled his secretaries of state and defense, and jolted this city and capitals across NATO Europe and the Middle East.

Yet, Trump is doing exactly what he promised to do in his campaign. And what his decision seems to say is this:

We are extricating America from the forever war of the Middle East so foolishly begun by previous presidents. We are coming home. The rulers and peoples of this region are going to have to find their own way and fight their own wars. We are not so powerful that we can fight their wars while we also confront Iran and North Korea and face new Cold Wars with Russia and China.

As for the terrorists of ISIS, says Trump, they are defeated.

Yet, despite the heavy casualties and lost battles ISIS has suffered, the collapse of the caliphate, expulsion from its Syrian capital Raqqa and Iraqi capital Mosul, and from almost all territories it controlled in both countries, ISIS is not dead. It lives on in thousands of true believers hidden in those countries. And, like al-Qaida, it has followers across the Middle East and inspires haters of the West living in the West.

The U.S. pullout from Syria is being called a victory for Vladimir Putin. “Russia, Iran, Assad… are ecstatic!” wails Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Graham is echoed by Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse who called the withdrawal a “retreat” and charged that Trump’s generals “believe the high-fiving winners today are Iran, ISIS and Hezbollah.”

But ISIS is a Sunni terrorist organization. And, as such, it detests the Alawite regime of Bashar Assad, and Hezbollah and Iran, both of which are hated by ISIS as Shiite heretics.

“Russia, Iran, Syria… are not happy about the US leaving,” Trump tweeted, “despite what the Fake News says, because now they will have to fight ISIS and others, who they hate, without us.”

If Putin, victorious in the Syrian civil war, wishes to fight al-Qaida and ISIS, the last major enemies of Assad in Syria, why not let him?

The real losers?

Certainly the Kurds, who lose their American ally. Any dream they had of greater autonomy inside Syria, or an independent state, is not going to be realized. But then, that was never really in the cards.

Forced to choose between Turkey, with 80 million people and the second-largest army in NATO, which sits astride the Dardanelles and Bosphorus entrance to the Black Sea, and the stateless Kurds with their Syrian Democratic Forces, or YPG, Trump chose Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

And Erdogan regards the YPG as kinfolk and comrades of the Kurdish terrorist PKK in Turkey. A week ago, he threatened to attack the Kurds in northern Syria, though U.S. troops are embedded alongside them.

What kind of deal did Trump strike with Erdogan?

Turkey will purchase the U.S. Patriot anti-aircraft and missile defense system for $3.5 billion, and probably forego the Russian S-400.

Trump also told Erdogan, we “would take a look at” extraditing Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen whom Erdogan says instigated the 2016 coup attempt that was to end with his assassination.

National security adviser John Bolton, who said U.S. troops would remain in Syria until all Iranian forces and Iranian-backed militias have been expelled, appears not to have been speaking for his president.

And if the Israelis were relying on U.S. forces in Syria to intercept any Iranian weapons shipments headed to Hezbollah in Lebanon through Damascus, then the Israelis are going to have to make other arrangements.

The war party project, to bring about regime change in Tehran through either severe sanctions leading to insurrection or a U.S.-Iranian clash in the Gulf, will suffer a severe setback with the U.S. pullout from Syria.

ORDER IT NOW

However, given the strength of the opposition to a U.S. withdrawal — Israel, Saudi Arabia, the GOP foreign policy establishment in Congress and the think tanks, liberal interventionists in the Beltway press, Trump’s own national security team of advisers — the battle to overturn Trump’s decision has probably only just begun.

From FDR’s abandonment of 100 million East Europeans to Stalin at Yalta in 1945, to the abandonment of our Nationalist Chinese allies to Mao in 1949, and of our South Vietnamese allies in 1975, America has often been forced into retreats leading to the deaths of allies. Sasse says Trump is risking the same outcome: “A lot of American allies will be slaughtered if this retreat is implemented.”

But is that true?

Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria at least has assured us of a national debate on what it will mean to America to extricate our country from these Mideast wars, the kind of debate we have not had in the 15 years since we were first deceived into invading Iraq.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2018 Creators.com.

 
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  1. But will he pull out from Israel Pat?

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  2. Rational says:

    TRUMP IS GREAT; SASSE GET STRAIGHT!!

    Trump is a great man to get ut of Syria. He did in one stroke what the public has been demanding for years—get us out of foreigners’ wars (and get foreigners out of our walls).

    When I read the news, my admiration for Trump shot up 100%.

    He deserves the Noble peace prize.

    Neocon thug Ben Sasse must remember—it is not who we are, going around fighting and dying for Israel. (Its not who we are was his famous scam he used to utter).

  3. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    Would anyone be fooled by another gas attack?

  4. Anonymous[116] • Disclaimer says:

    We are not so powerful that we can fight their wars while we also confront Iran and North Korea and face new Cold Wars with Russia and China.

    What? “We” are supposed to “confront” Iran, NK, Russia and China on behalf of the same Tribe, Pat.

  5. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope not, but expect that if the President isn’t lying, this troop withdrawal will be suffocated like a Kuwaiti incubator baby. Perhaps a District Court can issue an injunction, or something. (We know that under the Constitution this war stuff isn’t for Congress.)

    But in the meantime, the responses from the Establishment are revealing. Here, the scripted foil Mr. Buchanan soft smears the President as betraying Kurds, selling out to Turkey, losing to Iran and “Putin,” etc. This disgusting paragraph:

    “From FDR’s abandonment of 100 million East Europeans to Stalin at Yalta in 1945, to the abandonment of our Nationalist Chinese allies to Mao in 1949, and of our South Vietnamese allies in 1975, America has often been forced into retreats leading to the deaths of allies. Sasse says Trump is risking the same outcome: [‘]A lot of American allies will be slaughtered if this retreat is implemented.[‘].”

    notwithstanding the subsequent feigned skepticism (“But is that true?”) legitimatizes the Establishment rhetoric, to the exclusion of Uncle Sam’s atrocities.

    And “Mr. Paleoconservative” again shows that he’s actually a right-sized imperialist with this: ” … while we also confront Iran and North Korea and face new Cold Wars with Russia and China.” Sure “we” do — pronoun propaganda.

    If Mr. Buchanan were who his dwindling admirers around here still maintain, then he would be cheering for peace and protecting the President’s flank by going after Big War, good and hard. Instead, he’s writing like a termite to undermine the announced withdrawal.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @The Alarmist
  6. Realist says:

    Thanks to our extremely bloated war budget and bellicose nature we have a plethora of dickheads to choose from for replacement of Mattis.

    • Agree: RVBlake, Bubba
  7. Q the
    “What do you mean we, Pat.”

    “Until, every sentence ends in, it’s the Jews, Pat is a shill.”

    “Here goes , Pat, carrying more water for the neocons.”

    • Replies: @anonymous
  8. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Same crap >>> same comments

    Based on his own words, I say he’s serving the Establishment as a Beltway conservative cutout, a la the once credible “Judge.”

    But if I’m wrong, please refute.

    • Replies: @Futurethirdworlder
  9. Looks like Trump is clearing the decks, getting ready for 2020.

    Mad Dog Mattis is out.

  10. Pat must have written this before SecDef Mattis’ resignation. It was not unexpected, but the timing seems meant to undermine Trump’s announced Syria withdrawal. What would happen if SOS Pompeo resigns too? Too my mind that would be a good thing, but the press already smells Trump’s blood in the water. Who of any real substance would want to work in the crumbling Trump admin now?

    I recently stumbled upon a new video from Blackstone Intelligence by Jake Morphonios. He provides info I had never considered regarding Trump’s real reasons for exiting Syria. Pat has the same idea regarding Turkey’s role, but there’s more. The Kurds may be left out to dry. Also, Morphonios had information about General Flynn that I had never of heard before. It seemed ridiculous that the judge called Flynn a traitor based on lying to the FBI, but there may be much more to the story than reported by Hannity and Tucker on a nightly basis.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @bluedog
  11. I think I can confidently predict that there will be a new (Israeli engineered) “gas attack” or some other outrage within a week that will make (Ivanka) Trump change his mind about this.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  12. Rurik says:
    @anonymous

    Yes too funny..

    I can just imagine the headlines from the NYT:

    Federal Judge reverses Trump, declares Syria withdrawal unconstitutional.

    A Ninth Circuit court judge has just declared Trump’s unilateral decision to vacate Syria as unconstitutional. ‘By leaving the Syrian people at the mercy of Iranian and Russian militants, President Trump has violated the spirit of the law as it laid out in the Constitution’.

    The Trump administration is planning an appeal, in the mean time, Assad is plotting alongside Vladimir Putin, new chemical weapons attacks on school children in Damascus’.

    the battle to overturn Trump’s decision has probably only just begun.

    From FDR’s abandonment of 100 million East Europeans to Stalin at Yalta in 1945, to the abandonment of our Nationalist Chinese allies to Mao in 1949 …

    But Pat,

    The abandonment of 100 million Europeans to Stalin at Yalta was an act in service to the Fiend.

    Just as abandoning the Chinese to Mao was also a betrayal of our national spirit of liberty, to the forces of Satanic evil = Rothschild’s communism.

    Those decisions were enormities of perfidy and abominations against human freedom.

    Whereas the decision to leave Syria is the opposite, and is going against the Fiend. And is bolstering world justice and sovereignty and human dignity.

    IOW what FDR (and Wilson and Bush and Clinton and Obama, et al) were evil acts, in stark contrast to the spirit and motivating principle of the American people, who always vote against evil wars. And yet are always betrayed, by treasonous scum like FDR.

    Whereas today, remarkably, and historically, we have a president who is actually serving the interests of the American people! And all the tenets and aspirations of the Rule of International Law.

    We have zero authority to be in Syria. In fact it is a violation of all known ideas of legality or decency.

    By vacating Syria, and handing it back to its rightful owners, the USA is finally, and at long last, doing what’s right and good and Constitutional and Godly.

    We’re finally witness to an act of the US president that we can be proud of, and I didn’t know if I’d die before I ever saw (or said) that. In direct contrast to the demonic act of FDR in his betrayal of Eastern Europe to the Fiend.

    Just because some scum somewhere ally with the Zio-USA for their own nefarious agendas; (Porky’s Ukros, Kurds, ISIS, and so many others…) doesn’t mean they should act ‘shocked, shocked’ when the Zio-US betrays them, as it always will.

    In this case however, the USA is not betraying anyone, but rather is holding dear and close its founding principles of liberty, sovereignty and respect of human dignity.

    With our retreat, the last shreds of hope for the head-slicers of ISIS is sealed.

    All this rot about ‘but ISIS isn’t dead yet!!’, is a crock of shite. The only reason ISIS ever lived was due to ZUS/CIA/Mossad/KSA treachery.

    As the ZUS leaves, so too will all hope for ISIS in the region, as Assad and Vlad mop them up.

    Kudos to President Donald J. Trump.

    You are behaving in ways that redound hope in the human spirit.

    You President Trump, are in jeopardy of going down as America’s greatest president and perhaps the world’s greatest statesman in over a century!

    Please continue to drawdown our troops overseas Mr. President, and put them on the border, and make Western civilization great again!

    Is Trump going to be considered for all time.. The Lion of the West, and the man who saved Western civilization from its myriad enemies, foreign, (and especially) ((domestic))?

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    , @lavoisier
    , @Art
  13. @anonymous

    First: Read Churchill Hitler and the Unecessary War and Death of the West.

    Buchanan is a beltway insider and he uses the premises and parlance of the beltway but he is wholly opposed to every aspect of their agenda.

    If you want more blunt commentary there are lots of analysts that are providing it.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  14. bjondo says:

    good riddance, haley and mattis.
    now get rid of bolton and pompeo.
    if they don’t know what ‘serving America’ means,
    time they go out the door or window.

    and pence.

  15. RVBlake says:
    @Rurik

    Let’s hope Trump continues this spasm of common sense and withdraws half of U. S. troops now in Afghanistan. A sobering thought is the statement about continuing to “confront” Iran and N. Korea. Perhaps Trump will appoint another SecDef nicknamed after a diseased mammal for that task.

    • Agree: Rurik
  16. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Futurethirdworlder

    Pfft. That’s about what I expected.

    My comments concern the articles under which they appear. No matter what Mr. Buchanan has written in the past, he’s selling out now — it’s right up there before your wistful eyes.

    I take no joy in this, either. We all loved Santa and “Judge,” too. But if you don’t care to grow up and deal with it when it comes to Old Pat, then you should have stayed off the thread instead of posting insubstantial insults to no one in particular.

  17. Stick says:

    As I recall it was Obama/Hillary policy to soap up Assad and bring him into the west. Then they decided to kill Quadaffi. Assad is not stupid. But it certainly seems the New World Order big thinkers are.

  18. geokat62 says:

    We are extricating America from the forever war of the Middle East so foolishly begun by previous presidents. We are coming home. The rulers and peoples of this region are going to have to find their own way and fight their own wars. We are not so powerful that we can fight their wars while we also confront Iran

    Last time I checked, Iran is part of the Middle East.

    • Agree: Bliss
  19. MEexpert says:

    Next troop withdrawal should be from South Korea. With North-South Korea patching up things, we don’t need to be there anymore.

  20. tyrone says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Right! look for some really nasty false flags…..the next two years ,pure ape shit.

    • Replies: @Carroll Price
  21. @anonymous

    If you could explain how/why you think Bachanan is “selling out” it would help me to help you understand.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  22. @MEexpert

    AGREED! We’ve had 20 – 30 THOUSAND American troops over there for 65 years! (Not the same guys, of course.). It’s not just that the Koreans are making up, but also we have big trade deficits with Korea, and we are beyond broke, now living off of borrowed Chinese money. With the death of BIG COMMUNISM (for now) there is no reasons Americans should be spending money to defend S. Korea.

    Do people not realize that the money that’s spent to support those 25,000 troops in S. Korea is more than it would take to man and maintain a nice southern-border barrier? See Peak Stupidity’s Border control maintenance vs. defending some Koreans against other Koreans for back-o-the-envelope calculations.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  23. pensword says:

    since we were first deceived into invading Iraq.

    Thank you, Mr. Buchanan, for saying it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  24. KenH says:

    Amazingly, Trump found his common sense but if history proves correct he could lose it again any moment. I don’t think anyone with a brain honestly thinks our 2000 troops and occasional bombings defeated ISIS. Syria, Russia nad Hezbollah did 80% of the wet work and they would have defeated ISIS sooner had we not embedded troops inside Syria and periodically threatened Assad.

    Now I’m guessing our beloved ally and greatest ally in the middle east, Iz-ray-L, could activate their false flag terror cells in that region or in Europe within the next week or so.

  25. Wait there will be a rainfall of thousands of false flags….another 911 in USA…the TRIBE is going crazy…the FED will crash the economy…the DEMS are already yelling Impeachment…

  26. peterAUS says:

    No American personnel on ground in Syria, anywhere!?

    Crackup.

    And, that desperate need to hold some hope re Washington foreign policy.
    Sad, actually.

  27. Cyrano says:

    Actually for the US involvement in Syria I blame the Mexican illegal immigrants. How so? Well because they are giving a bad example to the US army by working in US illegally. So the US army thought if Mexicans can do it – why can’t we find illegal jobs? After all, that job opening – the war in Syria – was never advertised at the UN, nor by the Syrian government, so it was totally illegal. And the United Statians never admitted who their real employers in Syria were – probably ISIS – that’s why they were too embarrassed to reveal that. And now they have to find another seasonal job, probably something on the black market.

  28. Mattis looks like a doddering old man. All of the US generals look like doddering old men. The same generals who let 911 happen, still run the show. The grossly incompetent Mattis still runs the military. Only people who never have spent a day in the military respect military officers. Only people who never have met a general respect generals.

    All wars have two purposes — Wealth and Power. The lying press says there’s a pullout underway and Mattis is quitting but the entire voting class, left and right, will also be told a beheading happened. ‘Catholic’ Buchanan, Thomas ‘Bonesaw’ Friedman, Matt ‘Lyin’ Tabbi, Tom’s ‘Pro-Death’ Dispatch – each of the sheep has their favorite State brain washing agents that deliver the empty info about the Syria. Unfortunately, 99% of American adults believe these obvious lies because they have the perceptive abilities of turtles.

  29. @pensword

    since we were first deceived into invading Iraq.

    Thank you, Mr. Buchanan, for saying it.

    Which was merely a follow-up to the earlier, larger deception that “Islam is a peaceful religion.” To which the “opposition” was AWOL.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
    , @anonymous
  30. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    What a joke. Two years wasted because of dirty dealings by the GLOB.

  31. MarkinLA says:

    What I like most about all the excuses for staying in that they all involve the “need” for American leadership. I don’t recall ever reading they one of the countries we are occupying ever asked for it.

  32. MarkinLA says:
    @follyofwar

    Do you have a link. The article by him only says Turkey wants to invade Syria (probably to attack the Kurds)

  33. I don’t bother publishing links. If interested, just type in Blackstone Intelligence on YouTube.

  34. @Achmed E. Newman

    How about getting all the troops out of Germany and Japan for that matter. World War II ended in 1945, yet we’ve had thousands of troops garrisoned there, especially in Germany, for over 73 years, like an occupying army (which the US in fact is). It’s not too likely that the Nazis are returning to power there any time soon.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  35. this is c. the 19th time that Trump has announced he’s “pulling the troops out” of Syria and Afghanistan.

    it’s a placeholder for #20.

    MAGA!

  36. bluedog says:
    @follyofwar

    Perhaps the $400 thousand that Turkey was paying him thru shell companies…

  37. Anon[726] • Disclaimer says:

    … a national debate on what it will mean to America to extricate our country from these Mideast wars, the kind of debate we have not had in the 15 years since we were first deceived into invading Iraq.

    ”Perpetual war and destabilisation in the Middle East is their goal. One of the findings I had not expected to discover in writing Sikunder Burnes was that the British had been deliberately exploiting and exacerbating the Shia/Sunni divide as early as 1836 to the Imperial purpose.”:

    {emphasis added} From:

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/continued-american-occupation-of-the-middle-east-does-not-suppress-terrorism-it-causes-it/5663579

  38. @nomoreisbetter

    He won’t need to. With no one left to prevent Iran providing advanced weapons to Syria and Hezbollah, Israel’s days are numbered – 10 years at most, but probably less.

    • Replies: @anon
  39. @anonymous

    No matter what Mr. Buchanan has written in the past, he’s selling out now

    No he’s not. If you’ve been following Buchanan as long as I have (more than 30 years) he’s playing the same game he’s always played, which is playing both sides against the middle. He’s really on our side.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  40. @MEexpert

    More than once Trump has openly complained about cost associated with thousands of US troops being in S. Korea, so it would be no surprise if, within the next 6 months, he were to order a major withdrawal of troops from the country.

  41. @Reg Cæsar

    You have proven to the world that Christianity is a religion of brotherly love and that Jews are the most innocent of all God’s creatures who would not hurt a fly.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @anon
    , @Tony
  42. @tyrone

    It appears that RT may have been the only news source to publish the below article.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/445807-us-stays-afghanistan-9-11/

  43. @follyofwar

    In Germany it wasn’t about the Nazis, F.o.W., but about the Commies. They’ve been disbanded there since 30 years ago. As for Japan, yeah this is not 1945. So AGREED.

  44. @ploni almoni

    People are always calling Bush a liar, then they let this particular lie of his pass. Such hypocrites. Well, I’m not having any of it.

  45. Ted Buila says:

    Not that it matters I suspect does “Troops” ned to be operationally defined ? Eg, Contractors? Related USAF support. USAF Ankara support.

  46. The bipartisan wailing and gnashing of teeth is solid evidence that this is a good move.

  47. @anonymous

    “… this troop withdrawal will be suffocated like a Kuwaiti incubator baby.”

    Given that the Kuwaiti Incubator story was a hoax, what are you saying? BTW, there were allegedly more murdered Kuwaiti incubator babies than there are actual incubators in all the middle east.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/02/26/the-kuwaiti-incubator-hoax/35b1e882-f796-4acb-a106-9280a7dda521/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ea2dbc3d4bb5

    • Replies: @anonymous
  48. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    If the US really did act as World Police, it wouldn’t be so bad.

    The problem is US acts like World Gangster or Globo-Homo-Mafia whose use of violence is really drive by Military-Industrial-Complex, Zionist-Supremacists, and Deep State gamers(who are addicted to playing the world like a chessboard). If the US is a World Cop, it is a very corrupt cop… like the Irish police chief in THE GODFATHER.

    • Replies: @anon
  49. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carroll Price

    Irrefutable: an evidence-free appeal to your own authority, credentialed only by belief in a losing, three decades long game.

    If you can show where I’m wrong, please put up.

  50. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    That perhaps it’s all hoax.

    I have never believed that Mr. Trump means or even understands what he says that gives hope to so many here. But at least some of the seams are showing.

  51. Renoman says:

    I am delighted to have “Mad Dog” further away from the button. NO ONE WANTS MIDDLE EAST WARS! Even Trump knows that.

  52. APilgrim says:

    The War Powers Act REQUIRES President Trump to leave Syria.

    Congress did NOT pass an AUMF (Authorization for Use of Military Force). So, continued US activities in Syria are illegal.

    Odd that nobody mentions THE LAW.

  53. APilgrim says:

    I support aiding our RELIABLE Kurd Allies, including ‘boots on the ground’.

    So, I do hope that congress will pass an AUMF.

    And that President Trump will recognize Syria, & negotiate a SOFA with them.

    If not, end the deployment, and bring the troops home.

  54. It’s the Xmas season .. why not a baby elephant for Putin?

  55. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carroll Price

    from your keyboard to god’s ears.

    Israel’s days are numbered – 10 years at most, but probably less.

    may it be so.

  56. anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @ploni almoni

    true dat.

    a conversation Ron Unz posted in video — Catholic Bishop Barron w/ Rabbi David Wolfe masturbating over the many virtues and goodnesses of the Job-day-o Kristian heritage: “man is made in the image of god,” and, sez Wolpe, “we figured that out first and don’t you forget it or we’ll kill you.”

    grab a barf bag and give a listen:

    One of the many threats Germans posed to the Jewish claim to being the founding religious tradition of all civilization was that it was bogus, was singular, and that the Nordic tradition had a validity of its own. Moreover, the Jewish god is vicious and destructive.

    PS yo. Barron. Ever heard of Cyrus and the Cyrus Cylinder, unscripted with the first recorded code of human rights for all mankind?

    Barron and Wolpe compete for title of deluded supremacist.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  57. A123 says:

    Unless Erdogan moves away from craziness, this one is fairly easy to understand. Some times you have to take one step backwards before taking two steps forward.

    -1- U.S. ground troops are in an enclave where supplies move primarily through Turkey.
    -2- Turkey / Saudi relations are bad and stand a good chance of getting worse.
    -3- Saudi is more important than Turkey for the purpose of containing the violent Iranian regime that is destabilizing the region.

    Drawing down the small number of U.S. troops from Syria is less than ideal, but necessary to eliminate a dependency on unreliable Turkey. There are many other options still available for U.S. air missions in Syria (if needed).

    Bottom line this keeps focus on the primary, immediate U.S. peace mission in the area… Limiting Iranian Violence.
    ____

    A secondary mission Is limiting Turkish violence.

    The withdrawal eliminates Turkey’s ability to use those troop supply lines to blackmail the U.S. over the Israel, Cyprus, Greece, Italy gas export pipeline project. Providing southern European nations energy supplies that do not flow through Germany is necessary preparation for the dissolution of the EU.

    https://cyprus-mail.com/2018/12/20/cyprus-greece-israel-agree-on-eastmed-pipeline/

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  58. anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Islam is not a pacifist religion. I am not sure which idiot came up with that slogan.

    I would not be surprised if some apostate a$$-licking “think-tanker” or the accursed enemies of true monotheism came up with that to mock the faith.

    That is okay, because I do not expect anything better from satan’s favourite pagan/godless sodomists (more on them below), who find it impossible to battle the only theist ideology which makes sense, true monotheism.

    With regards to the enemies of true monotheism, Islam is not a peaceful religion, for it cannot afford to be a peaceful religion. The Almighty One has exhorted true believers to fight His enemies, and if so willed, martyr in His cause. Blessed are those who fight the enemies of true monotheism, and give their life for it.

    In other words, muslims would be idiots to be “peaceful” when confronting such satanic evil; the Whitey/christian racists/imperialists, the satanically mischievous jewscum, the jew-d*-sucking rightwing hindoos, etc.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  59. anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    “man is made in the image of god,”

    Pagans, and their mangods-worship!! Pfft!!

  60. Are there actually any US troops in Syria? Or by US troops do they just mean ISIS?

    • Replies: @A123
  61. Floda says:

    Trump is 100% right. Get out of the ME and focus on the domestic economy and BUILD THAT DAM WALL!

  62. A123 says:
    @ploni almoni

    There are between 1,500 and 2,500 Dept. Of Defense military personnel in Syria. Primarily trainers and planners, though undoubtedly are some Special Forces. After they leave, Syrian Kurds needing material support will be discretely supplied via Iraqi Kurds without the need for U.S. boots on the ground in Syria.

    The holdover Deep State/CIA may still have operators under contract. One hopes they are not U.S. citizens, as neither the American Government nor the American People will not support any such rogue contractors if they get caught. Very soon ISIS tools, such as Turkish SDF “moderates”, will be cut off as Soros/Obama’s peeps are not known for having backbone and Clinton’s loss left them without support.

  63. Hail says: • Website
    @MEexpert

    I believe Pat has called for this before. He might start the ball rolling.

    If Trump doesn’t get the Wall, the apparently-unlimited military commitment to South Korea and Japan are two big-fish “hostages” Trump has left, among others.

  64. APilgrim says:
    @anonymous

    1st place I heard that lie was from a young boxer named Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. Cassius Clay used his new name, Muhammad Ali in a cowardly attempt to dodge the draft.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  65. APilgrim says:

    So, have these Senators introduced a War Powers Act – Syria AUMF?

    ‘King, Graham, Bipartisan Group of Colleagues Urge Trump Administration to Reconsider Withdrawing U.S. Forces from Syria’, WASHINGTON D.C. NEWSROOM / PRESS RELEASES, December 20, 2018, https://www.king.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/king-graham-bipartisan-group-of-colleagues-urge-trump-administration-to-reconsider-withdrawing-us-forces-from-syria

    Today, U.S. Senators Angus King (I-Maine), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) sent a letter to President Donald Trump expressing their concern regarding the consideration to withdraw U.S. forces from Syria. “If you decide to follow through with your decision to pull our troops out of Syria, any remnants of ISIS in Syria will surely renew and embolden their efforts in the region.

  66. APilgrim says:

    U.S. Senators Angus King (I-Maine), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), Joni Ernst (R-Iowa), Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) Should Put Up or Shut Up!

    An Authorization for the Use of Military Force must be passed by Congress to LAWFULLY & Constitutionally continue our Syria Adventure.

    STFU!

  67. lavoisier says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Good explanation for the morality of various military “withdrawals.”

    Sad that Pat cannot muster up the courage to express it as clearly as you have.

  68. lysias says:

    Trump doubling down. Mattis out by year’s end.

  69. swamped says:

    at last, a president who acts like it, bravo!

  70. Art says:
    @Rurik

    Federal Judge reverses Trump, declares Syria withdrawal unconstitutional.

    Love the sarcasm – great comment — Art

  71. Art says:

    the battle to overturn Trump’s decision has probably only just begun.

    That is the understatement of the century!

    Everyone in government and media will be under tremendous pressure to get Trump – Period!

    Every Jew will be called on to subvert America.

    Think Peace — Art

  72. @A123

    the violent Iranian regime that is destabilizing the region.

    Clearly it is not so easy for you to understand, WTF are you smoking for you to write such blatant nonsense?

  73. Tony says:
    @ploni almoni

    Uh oh looks like we got a muslim apologist here.

    • Agree: A123
  74. APilgrim says:

    President Trump should ALSO reduce US Troop levels in NATO & Ukraine. And deploy MOST USA Armed Forces along the Southern Border.

    … Including the Joint Chiefs of Staff …

    General Joseph F. Dunford, Chairman
    General Paul J. Selva, Vice Chairman
    General Mark A. Milley, Army Chief of Staff
    Admiral John M. Richardson, Navy chief of Operations
    General Robert B. Neller, Marine Corps commandant
    General David L. Goldfein Air Force Chief of Staff
    General Gen Joseph L. Lengyel, Chief of the National Guard Bureau
    And including … Admiral Karl L. Schultz, Commandant of the Coast Guard

  75. APilgrim says:

    Our Primary Battlefield to Defend America, from INVASION, is the Southern Border.

    The rest of the world is TRIVIAL.

    Man your stations, to the virtual exclusion of all else.

  76. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s as if Trump suddenly woke up and realizes he is the president, not Mattis, Pompeo, Bolton, Pence, Kushner, MBS, Netanyahu or Adelson. It’s a welcome change. I pray he has the strength to hold firm.

    Pulling out of Syria and Afghanistan is the first step. It’s time for US to end all foreign wars and bring home all our troops from overseas — Saudi Arabia, Libya, Ukraine, Niger, Iraq, Yemen, South Korea, Japan, Guam, Philippines, Latin America — everywhere, and station them at our southern border, where a real invasion is occurring.

    Jews fighting muslims, shias fighting sunnis, sunnis fighting themselves — Saudi Arabia, Al Qaeda and ISIS will end up fighting for territories. Middle Easterners are the most belligerent people alive, these medieval ragheads have been fighting one another since the dawn of mankind, and they will never stop fighting until the last two men standing inflict mortal wounds on each other. Let them go fight it out. The US needs to stay out of the region altogether or they will surely bring us down with them.

  77. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Couldn’t agree more. It’s like Lord of the Rings, the one ring to rule them all. Who should have this ring? Not a single mortal. Any human who holds this ring will be corrupted by its power. The same extends to countries. No one country could hold such absolute power without being corrupted.

    Plato long ago contemplated such a ring in The Republic. He said no one could be trusted with such power.

    Unchecked power always corrupts, especially when there’s a Jew anywhere in the vicinity.

  78. MarkinLA says:

    The real question is: Is Trump going to cave on the 5 billion for the wall? It looks like yes.

    I can just see the empty ralleys now. maybe end a chant of – One Term Trump.

    • Replies: @A123
  79. @APilgrim

    You mean in an intelligent attempt to dodge the draft. You would have to be an idiot to go to make money for someone else with your blood. Are you that kind of idiot?

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  80. APilgrim says:
    @ploni almoni

    Cassius Clay was just another typical America-Hating Negro.

    A dime a dozen.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  81. APilgrim says:

    S.J.Res.43 – Authorization for Use of Military Force Against al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria

    115th Congress (2017-2018), Sponsor: Sen. Flake, Jeff [R-AZ] (Introduced 05/25/2017), Committees: Senate – Foreign Relations

    Latest Action: Senate – 05/25/2017 Read twice and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations. (All Actions), https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/43

  82. @APilgrim

    Nonsense! The man had the sense and decency to understand that killing non-threatening strangers for reasons that made no sense at all was both wrong and destructive, to all concerned. History has proven him to have been correct whilst you seem to have learned nothing in the decades past. Sadly, it is your foolish type that is a dime a dozen.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
  83. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:

    “…abandoning our nationalist allies in China to Mao in 1949″…..

    How could the USA have prevented his takeover of China in 1949? China is a huge country with an enormous population thousands of miles away from the USA. What exactly was the USA supposed to have done in 1949 to have kept Mao from taking over? The USA just barely managed to save South Korea which is vastly smaller (the inter-Korean border is only 187 miles long). China is 99 times the size of South Korea. Note how the USA failed to stop the communist takover of South Vietnam.

    What exactly could Truman have done in 1949 to have prevented the USA from “losing” China?

  84. APilgrim says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Cassius Clay was a God Damned Muslim, PRETENDING to be a pacifist.

    Pacifist, Professional Boxer … what a FRAUD!

  85. A123 says:
    @MarkinLA

    The National Socialist Democrats [DNC] will have to give something to end the government Schumer-down. Most likely compromise is ~$2.5B, halfway between what Schumer and Trump want for the border. Approximately 80% of the illegal crossings occur along 20-30% of the border. That level of funding would be a major Trump victory, as it would be enough to take care of the most abused weak points.

    The biggest risk is the DNC waiting. The new House will have a knife edged majority. It is likely to have problems moving anything due to internal strife between the Clinton/Wall Street/Establishment faction and the Occasional Cortex/Fantasyland/Antifa faction.

  86. MarkinLA says:

    Anything less than 5 billion is a cave and Trump is toast. People are tired of Trump claiming victory on immigration without getting anything.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  87. APilgrim says:

    President Trump should INCREASE his wall demand, to $26B.

    And refuse to BACKPAY the furloughed, federal employees.

    No work, no pay.

  88. @MarkinLA

    So many times I have entered the US via LAX and, despite having a Green Card and no criminal record, the hostile arrogance shown by the strutting (waddling) Immigration people is startling and a terribly poor way to welcome guests and non-citizen residents (taxpayers) to the US, and I am referencing people who are entering legally. Meanwhile, watching the “news” here in Australia, I can see with my own eyes, completely undocumented people of unknown background, scrambling over the fence in blatant defiance of the law and entering the US from Mexico, just because they feel like it. It makes no sense at all. The need for an impermeable barrier is a no brainer.

    • Replies: @anon
  89. anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    Any SERIOUS country defends its national territory and asserts its national authority over its borders.

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