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Last Friday, in Christchurch, New Zealand, one of the more civilized places on earth, 28-year-old Brenton Tarrant, an Australian, turned on his cellphone camera and set out to livestream his massacre of as many innocent Muslim worshippers as he could kill.

Using a semi-automatic rifle, he murdered more than 40 men, women and children at one mosque, drove three miles to another, and there killed seven more. Dozens are still wounded, suffering and dying.

An atrocity and act of pure evil by a man with a dead soul.

Yet, predictably, within 48 hours, the president of the United States was being publicly indicted as a moral accomplice.

Donald Trump, it was said, used a word, “invasion,” to describe the 76,000 migrants caught illegally crossing the U.S. border in February. At the same time, the killer used that word to describe the Muslim migration into the West.

The killer also mentioned Trump in his 74-page manifesto.

What further need have we of proof?

Trump also failed to express America’s revulsion and his country’s condolences to Muslims everywhere, and failed to denounce the “white nationalist” ideology that motivated the killer.

From there, it was a short jump to declare that we Americans have too long ignored this growing menace. Charlottesville, where a woman protester was run over by a neo-Nazi, was trotted out again and again.

But does the vision of America as a country where white racism is rampant and an unleashed white nationalism is a scourge that is running amok correspond with reality?

America’s elites are familiar with the Acela Express, the train that runs from D.C.’s Union Station to Penn Station in New York.

In which of the five Eastern Seaboard cities at which the Acela stops to take on and discharge passengers — Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, New York — are white nationalists responsible for a significant share of the assaults, robberies, rapes and shootings?

Chicago may lead the nation in total gun deaths. But the murder rate was highest in 2018 in St. Louis, Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans and Kansas City. In how many of these cities are Klansmen and neo-Nazis regularly hauled in for violent crimes?

As for the mass murders of our new century, the racist right has perpetrated its share. Dylann Roof’s killing of the black women and men at the Charleston church qualifies, as does the massacre of Jews at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh.

Yet a Muslim major, Nidal Hasan, fatally shot 13 soldiers at Fort Hood. In the 2015 San Bernardino massacre, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik carried out that attack that left 14 dead and 22 wounded.

According to Forbes, of the 18,814 deaths caused by terrorists around the world in 2017, well over half were due to the actions of four groups: Islamic State, the Taliban, Al-Shabab and Boko Haram.

All are Sunni Muslim; none are alt-right.

Undeniably, atrocities that exceed in blood shed the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre by Al Capone’s gang, where seven men were stood against a wall in a Chicago garage and executed, have become all too common.

ORDER IT NOW

But the atrocities seized upon by the left as most representative are those that conform to vision, a narrative, a pre-existing script. This preconceived idea is that America is a hotbed of white nationalism where the worst crimes are committed by white racists. And this is a myth.

Now, there are no excuses, or defenses, for what happened in Christchurch. But there is an explanation.

All peoples to some degree resent and resist the movement of outsiders into their space. Some migrants are more difficult than others to assimilate into Western societies. European nations that had not known mass migrations for centuries were especially susceptible to a virulent reaction, a backlash.

Americans, after all, reacted viscerally to the Irish migration of 1845-1849, and, again, to the Great Migration from Central and Eastern Europe from 1890 to 1920. Inter-ethnic violence was not uncommon.

Our leaders in the 1920s understood this and took steps to halt the migrations until those who had come could be assimilated, and, in a word, Americanized. It worked. By 1960, we were a united people.

Then, without the people’s consent, the great experiment began:

America’s doors were thrown open to peoples of every religion, race, culture and creed, to create a different nation that mirrored all mankind in its diversity, in Ben Wattenberg’s phrase, a universal nation.

The problem: A universal nation is a contradiction in terms. A nation of all races, religions and tribes had never before existed.

The liberal democracies that embraced this ideology, this idea, are at war with human nature, and are losing this war to tribalism and authoritarianism.

As for Christchurch, unfortunately, such horrors appear to have become the new normal. But Brenton Tarrant alone is responsible for what he did. And it was not Trump but the New World Order globalists who fertilized the soil that spawned him.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. As linked-to and mentioned on Peak Stupidity, I think Peter Brimelow of VDare does a great job in explaining what happens when JFK’s warning is not heeded.

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  2. Well done, Patrick Buchanan.

    However:

    Charlottesville, where a woman protester was run over by a neo-Nazi, was trotted out again and again.

    Why persist in attaching the label, Neo-Nazi, to Fields or anyone who was at the protest in Charlottesville? (and is it true that Fields’s mother, Samantha Bloom, is Jewish?)

    It has no information value.
    It serves only to enflame without offering clarity to the overall context of the situation; further, it amplifies a trope created by zionists zealots way back in 1933, and by ADL

    If you want to solve the problem, start the way Confucius recommended: reform the language.

  3. @Achmed E. Newman

    Can’t you see that we are three quarters of the way through a peaceful revolution?

  4. When people blame everyone from Donald Trump to Chelsea Clinton for creating Brenton Tarrant, it is clear that they haven’t really got a clue.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  5. Sorry, Pat, but there are no “innocent Muslim worshippers” in Christchurch, NZ. Even if there is such a thing as an “innocent Muslim” in principle (which I dispute) the Christchurch Mosque is a site of Mohammedan terror. While the relevant articles from 2014 have been scrubbed by the powers that be, the Wayback Machine never forgets.

    Clearly, Mr. Tarrant selected this mosque for a good and sufficient reason–self-defense against the a murderous Mohammedan cell in his country (Australia) and the one next door (NZ).

    Here you go, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20140727140346/http://stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/10310496/A-kiwi-lads-death-by-drone

    https://web.archive.org/web/20190317042128/https://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/christchurch-mosque-linked-to-alqaida-suspect-2014060417

    Care to respond, Pat? I didn’t think so….

  6. As you have repeatedly pointed out, Pat, these people are invaders. So they had it coming to them, irrespective of their tiny presence in New Zealand. Surely, an honorable and Christian man such as yourself, would not lose sleep over such a thing.
    Onward Christian Soldiers.

    • Troll: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Anon
  7. Thinker says:

    And it was not Trump but the New World Order globalists who fertilized the soil that spawned him.

    Spot on, Mr. Buchanan. The people who are pushing the hardest for mass immigration to the west are the people who have the most to gain from it — more votes, more cheap labor, more customers, and most of all, more outsider groups so they are no longer the only outsider group.

    What happened in Christchurch was extremely sad and unfortunate, but the real people with blood on their hands are the ones who push the hardest for mass immigration to the West, to fulfill their own agenda.

    • Replies: @m___
  8. KenH says:

    An atrocity and act of pure evil by a man with a dead soul.

    Oh gag me with a spoon. This is just Pat’s obligatory virtue signaling to the corrupt establishment so he can keep his syndication.

    I’m about halfway through the shooter’s manifesto and he’s none of the things Pat describes. This is a white man who carefully thought through his reasons for inflicting murder and carnage on Muslims nearest to him. He’d had enough of these hostile racial aliens and reading about their litany of brutal crimes against the ever so gracious European natives and decided to finally do something about it. And he cited evidence of the Christchurch mosque’s support for Islamic extremism which is the reason he judged them a legitimate target.

    The shooter had come to the conclusion, very reasonably, that Muslims are behaving very much like invaders and need to be treated accordingly.

    Terror begets terror and the Muslims and feckless Western governments are merely reaping what they’ve sown. All the shooter did was step in to the vacuum that was created by Western governments willful failure to protect their own people and act in their best interests.

    All the assorted disavowers, pants shitters, and virtue signalers need to remember that Algerian terrorists spared no one, not even women and children, in their quest to eject the French from Algeria. Sweet, smiling Winnie Mandela bombed and murdered innocent people in his quest to destroy the apartheid government yet he’s now a hero to both the (((left))) and the (((cucked right))). The Viet Cong killed Americans until they departed the country regardless of the cost in lives to themselves. Ditto for the Iraqi insurgents in gulf war II.

    What Brenton Tarrant did and was trying to achieve is no different than anything that third world people did in trying to free themselves of American and European colonialism or interference in their internal affairs and to which they are mostly celebrated especially on the political left. Brenton Tarrant’s only crime is being white and fighting back against the race replacement policies being enacted by Jewish occupation governments and their many willing white race traitors.

    As a white man, he was expected to go quietly into that good night but he blew up that script.

  9. Waitemata says:
    @Charles_Martel

    @ Charles Martel

    Interesting to this reader. A close friend in Auckland introduced me to an Iraqi lady and her professional musician husband. Wonderful people. The husband had no interest in religion having studied, lived and played in orchestras in Europe. The wife was still interested in her religion but told us stories about Bhagdad and her Aunt whom they loved who was Christian. Sadly our friend became understandably distraught over the U.S. invasion and ongoing destruction of her country then suffered an aneurism and died. Her brother from Christchurch told the grief stricken husband that if he wanted his daughter killed he would do it or arrange it. Our friend’s daughter was attractive, had boyfriends, was clever and financially ambitious. Of course she alerted the N.Z. police about her uncle in Christchurch.
    Before she died the wife confided to my friend that members of a branch of her family in Northern Iraq had comitted an honour killing of a young girl in the family who was unmarried and pregnant.
    The Islamic custom is to have commemorative afternoon in the home of the deceased about three months after to death to look at photos, mementos and to take sweet cakes and coffee.
    A small group of Kiwi women attended and were warmly welcomed by the widower and his daughter.
    The uncle, his wife and other relatives and friends from Christchurch were there but none spoke to us and the men looked a bit unfriendly. We stood by ourselves in a part of the room amongst a seated crowd of mainly men.
    Yesterday I phoned the husband to express sorrow about the Christchurch tradgedy. He was upset but said his late wife’s relatives were O.K. then expressed his own ongoing sorrow about the death of his wife and her N.Z. friend who died last year. He said both women were gold and the New Zealand friend was the very best friend he and his wife had ever had.
    The flowers are piling up at mosques in N.Z. The U.S. have killed over a million in their Middle Eastern invasions and the Israelis slaughter and maim Palestinians as if there’s no tomorrow but I haven’t seen the local florists having a bonanza over any of this.
    Originally, four perpetrators were arrested in Christchurch but the narrative is jelling into the lone extreme right Nazi nut case and the three others seem to have disappeared into the mythical Aussie wupwup. Weird world.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  10. KenH says:

    Let’s try an experiment. Let’s start flooding Muslim nations with white Christians and see how long it takes before they react violently towards the kafir newcomers. And when they do the foaming at the mouth left wing outrage mob, who are screeching about “white nationalist violence and terrorism” will calmly tell us that the Muslims are only protecting their lands and that the white Christians have no right being there and deserve their fate.

    • Agree: anon1
    • Replies: @m___
  11. Sweet, smiling Winnie Mandela bombed and murdered innocent people in his quest to destroy the apartheid government

    now there’s a twist I didn’t spot. Mandela was “indifferently gendered”? Unlike his disgusting peasant savage of a wife, and her coterie of young boys.

  12. @KenH

    Amen–except for the “Jewish occupation governments” stuff, which makes absolutely no sense to me although it seems to be a very popular theme on the Unz Review.

    In my book, Mr. Tarrant acted in self defense, and as such, is little different from, say, the guys who dropped the Nukes on the Japanese. I gotta take another look at his Manifesto (I only made it 1/3 of the way through) to see what he had to say about the Christchurch Mohammedan terror cell. I suspect he read the same articles I posted, courtesy of the Wayback Machine.

    • Replies: @m___
    , @Kevin
  13. @Waitemata

    “A bit unfriendly”??? You are lucky to have made it alive out of that “commemorative afternoon.” Hopefully Mr. Tarrant took care of those Muzzies who stared at you with hatred in their hearts. Of course, they have the last laugh, inasmuch as they are right now enjoying their 72 virgins each. Not sure about the female Muzzies–do they get 72 studs each? Maybe you call the mosque and ask about that subtle theological point?

    As for your allegation of a million Muzzies killed by the US (one could only wish we were that efficient) and whining about the so-called Palestinians (who really ought to shut up and move to Jordan or some other shithole Muzzie country)–well, there must have been something in the tea served at the commemorative afternoon. Hashish, I’m guessing.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Waitemata
  14. peterAUS says:
    @KenH

    As a white man, he was expected to go quietly into that good night but he blew up that script.

    Yep.

    That’s exactly what’s expected, no, demanded from us.

    Since the event, I’ve been in several groups talking about it. The group dynamics have been actually funny. After the first sentence, I know exactly how everyone was going to behave and what to say, or ….hehe….not to say.

    The progtards are actually that stupid they don’t get it.
    Some of us do. It’s simple. One face for the “outside”, the other, real, for “inside”.

    Most whites still don’t get it, but, my impression is that the learning process just started. I’ve seen some positive vibes recently.

    A lot of guys will get caught saying what they really think and get fucked. Or, not saying what’s demanded, wrong body language, facial expression etc.
    It will be hard learning for those, but, the important is, then they’ll really get it.

    Interesting times.

  15. Quite the opposite of regarding Trump as a true warrior against mass immigration, many us are very disappointed that Trump has not kept his promise to 1) end illegal immigration and 2) reduce legal immigration to numbers that are reasonable. The number 1.5 million often welfare-eligible, wage-undercutting immigrants per year is nowhere near reasonable in a country where 95 million US citizens between the ages of 16 and 65 are sidelined from the labor force, and the average “employed” person works only part-time. It is sinister to intentionally drive down wages for 40 years, using immigrants who can afford to work ultra-cheaply due to welfare for their US-born kids as a wage-undercutting weapon against the citizens that politicians are supposed to represent.

    But one thing: We have not had a major terrorist event in the USA since Trump’s bold confrontation of rinse-and-repeat mass murders by radical Islamic terrorists. He did it directly, insisting that we pin down why there’s is so much hate coming from that community, especially after the USA gave safe harbor to these mass-murderering terrorists via our generous-cubed immigration system. Multiple, gruesome mass murders were committed by legal Muslim immigrants, or by the children of legal immigrants, in the lead-up to the Trump victory. They did it in Boston, Orlando, San Bernardino, Chattanooga and in one mall after another, and they committed equal atrocities in the other parts of the West that have generously taken in Muslims: Nice, Paris, Manchester and even in London, England, with its Muslim mayor. They are so xenophobic, those Brits, with their willingness to elect a Muslim to a major office.

    It is just as heinous—just as evil—for a Christian to murder 50 people in a mosque, but if Trump had not been as confrontational in his campaign rhetoric, it is possible that more Americans would be dead from more evil terrorist acts, perpetrated by radical Islamic terrorists. They seemed to be emboldened by Obama’s lack of harsh criticism of terrorism. Between 2011 & 2014, the frequency of mass shootings increased by 300%, according to a Harvard study. Some of those were mass shootings by terrorists. This happened under PC Obama’s soft-touch approach to terrorism. If a far-away (and evil) New Zealander took twisted inspiration from words uttered by Trump, it is horrible, but in turn, those get-tough words might have spared some American lives. It is hard to say. But words don’t kill 50 people—evil people do.

  16. El Dato says:
    @Charles_Martel

    I think you need to calm down, take a stress pill and then an hero.

  17. Waitemata says:
    @Charles_Martel

    How vulgar. But I see now you are American. Clearly you don’t know much about New Zealand or perhaps about anything else if what I have read about the low standard of U.S. education is correct.
    Have you come across the poem ‘Ozymandias’ by the English poet Shelley? It is about the demise of power and the effects of time. Humans beings differ vastly one from another even within families but all that is now sentient will turn to dust as will the U.S. along with all other empires.
    Try reading Spengler and do try to rise above vulgarity, the most odious trait of all.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
    , @Anon
  18. Lucy says:
    @KenH

    Thank you so much for your reply. I just have one question___ WHEN will red necks, white power and middle class intellectuals come together to stop this insidious destruction of “whites” and the idea of white…

  19. a different nation that mirrored all mankind in its diversity, in Ben Wattenberg’s phrase, a universal nation

    Wattenberg makes clear that he loves diversity because it will cleanse America of his tribe’s most hated race:

    ‘…if you believe, as the author does, that the American drama is being played out to a purpose, then the non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality.’

  20. m___ says:

    The article,

    …how does terror matter.

    Does terror matter? One could make a point in the sense of propaganda value, when China turns on it’s Christians, maybe locally, (according, the US, EU, any country in the Northern Hemisphere to which the media turn their attention to rake up the voting scam) to be taken advantage of as a lower level buzz retainer for Deplorable The Commoner. A shot of a stronger emotion.

    …But as far as kill rates, the scores are frankly insignificant, globally there are now eight plus billion living humans, does a thousand have any meaning? Then infrastructure wise, little is erased but mortar and brick rubble of these same Deplorables.

    We would say, that where it counts, the net outcome of terror is highly positive to our de facto rulers. Propaganda value, being able to step in to police media and policing the streets on that premise alone (the Yellow Vests of France), no damage whatsoever to themselves and their luxury ghettos, training and retaining large and costly police forces, no cost to private fortunes, way more efficient as the earlier test probe of the US, of the nineties the “War on Drugs”.

    If terror would be, even taking into account the same low scores, be directed and honed onto the secondary phalanx of publicly exposed “elites”, then some paradigm shifts might result. Parts of the West would then become no go zones for the elites, and police, and effectively make for scaling forces of terror, infiltation of “own of breed” police members,dual or triple loyalties for every-one, not merely the elites. Some identity sorted clusters of humans would consequently materialize. It also would expose the “loyalties” of our politicians and administrators to the accusation of betrayal and the notion of risk. Now this would be comparable to voting with one’s feet for the Deplorable. Northern Ireland once, or at present Lybia are here referred at as theoretical models. Take Gaza, the porous borders of the West would make a far more interesting playing ground as say Afghanistan.

    The above side-notes are neglected by the article, our main reproach. Our elites do not have to be told, they know the above, and while terrorism is in the current dumb state, the silently ignore it as to it’s root causes, a matter of trade-offs, lack of other viable short term solutions.

    Still the article does, by omission, underscore the single point made. The global individual, his kill rate, victim rate, does not matter to any elites globally, far less as to terrorism as to genetically manipulated food and foul water, and that was historically always the case. The psychology of the masses that somehow they belong, the definite glue as to adhere to submissiveness, is being undermined by the imposed migrations provoked by Financial Capitalism, terror at hoc, and if it does not escalate into directed targeting, is insignificant to world rule.

    Admittedly, ours are little original thoughts, history made a case of above, ethnic histories of all peoples do. So does terror matter as to the kill rates of the make-shift terrorist, with drones or without, no. Does terrorism present a well exploited tool for the elites, it does and defines in a fashionable way the epoch of ours twenty first century, the Hollywood entertainment for the masses. Hence it has become of tool of rule readily applied. Our global masses are really dumbstruck to not notice that terrorism is just a mere escalation of crowd control.

    …On the contrary our elites are attaching far to much importance to the immediate benefits of terror, it is prone to escalation, and no solution in the long term. Another theatre where terror is attached to long term gain prerogatives, Israel, by historical deduction must fail in the long run.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  21. Realist says:

    The mistake made by those against White countries being overrun by unwanted races and ethnicities, is killing them. That will never stop the flow of unwanteds. The root of the problem must be eliminated and the root of the problem are those people that pass laws allowing and promote unwanted immigration and those that aid and abet illigal immigration.

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @m___
    , @republic
    , @anon1
    , @Realist
  22. KenH says:
    @KenH

    Sweet, smiling Winnie Mandela

    Should have read Nellie Mandela, not his wife equally murderous wife Winnie, who’s also an icon among Western leftists.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/africa/item/28669-media-idolizes-winnie-mandela-hides-murder-and-torture-of-kids

  23. m___ says:
    @Charles_Martel

    Could you point to a link as to where his manifesto is still available? Sadly missed it, if the erasing were not a serious call of censorship. Far more pertinent then Bezos, and Amazon on “Black – White relationships, timely planned”, which in turn admittedly is much larger in scope and historically valid on any other day. As the world goes, the “manifesto” again is in the now realm and important reading as to get a grasp of the world of understanding. Any Muslim scholar should make it appropriate.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  24. m___ says:
    @Thinker

    If Muslims, Sunny Muslims, take the Zealand incident, one of the many globally over the last week alone, as a pertinent and group directed insult, and not the derivative of a confused individual, they should respond by …breeding. An act of aggression that measures up to Nukes.

  25. m___ says:
    @Realist

    The mistake made by those against White countries being overrun by unwanted races and ethnicities, is killing them. That will never stop the flow of unwanteds. The root of the problem must be eliminated and the root of the problem are those people that pass laws allowing and promote unwanted immigration and those that aid and abet illigal immigration.

    Close to the pleasure knob, the clit of Lady Elite. Say goodbye to the believe in Financial Capitalism, Global rule by current standards, you Proud and Integer, Understanding, Deplorable, and our current de facto immorals (did we say immortals) will desintegrate.

  26. Stick says:

    In a war of memes it seems the only way to win is to kill the media. Problem solved.

  27. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    Brenton Tarrant’s only crime is being white and fighting back against the race replacement policies being enacted by Jewish occupation governments and their many willing white race traitors.

    if he’d had shot a white traitor or Jewish supremacist responsible for trying to genocide the whites of New Zealand, (and the rest of the West) perhaps he’d have had justification.

    But by murdering random Muslims, (who were invited into New Zealand) he does the cause of Western civilization no favors. Quite the contrary.

    If I read tomorrow that some Hungarian nationalist had plugged George Soros with bullet holes, because they resented a Jewish supremacist trying to genocide them, then I’d have to admit to a certain karma at work in the world.

    But by killing innocent people (if this actually happened) who were invited in to the nation, that psycho did his cause great harm, (if indeed he was opposing the Jewish supremacist agenda of genociding the people of the West).

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Mike-SMO
  28. @m___

    I found my copy somewhere on the net as a pdf file, but I can’t find the link to it. As the next best thing, here is a site where it can be viewed. I suppose you could print the page before IT is scrubbed from the net: https://milnenews.com/2019/03/15/christchurch-mosque-shooter-brenton-tarrants-full-manifesto/

    • Replies: @m___
  29. @Waitemata

    You are correct about one thing—I don’t know much about New Zealand other than the fact that the white settlers there pretty much wiped out the aborigines–a “vulgar” act if there ever was one.

    I also know that my late father, a US Army infantryman fighting the Japanese in New Guinea, helped save NZ and Australia from the Japanese back in the 1940’s. He, too, was a “vulgar” Yank, but not too many Kiwis and Aussies were complaining back in those days with their backs against the wall. Now that Australia and NZ are weeping over the demise of a nest of Mohammedan terrorists, I can’t help but wonder: what the heck did my father risk his neck for? The Japanese were bastards back in those days, of course, but they had and continue to have one admirable quality: they simply don’t put up with Mohammedanism.

    As for Spengler—what exactly is your point? That the West is in decline? Well, I hardly disagree with that point—and all this weeping and gnashing of teeth over the demise of Mohammedan terrorists pretty well proves it. That said, I suggest you put away your Spengler and pick up Reilly.

    Or is Reilly banned in NZ?

    • Agree: Sbaker
  30. @KenH

    new zealand does not belong to the british my friend it belongs to the maoris or other asians you are the invaders and that tarrant small brained guy is a terrorist from a cowardly country.

    • Replies: @anon1
    , @Monotonous Languor
  31. Anon[193] • Disclaimer says:
    @RealAmerican

    As you have repeatedly pointed out, Pat, these people are invaders. So they had it coming to them, irrespective of their tiny presence in New Zealand. Surely, an honorable and Christian man such as yourself, would not lose sleep over such a thing.
    Onward Christian Soldiers.

    Their deaths were a crime. In the sense that the extra-judicial intentional deaths of all unarmed people are a crime.

    However, what is also a moral crime is their presence in the West as a people who hold to an ideology that is hell-bent on dominating anything around it even when in foreign lands. An ideology that very often leads to murder, rape, and severe oppression straight out of antiquity. A religious ideology, held to the last man, that is responsible for variously overtaking or simply shattering our nations all over the globe and to the present day:

    The Levant
    Iran
    Afghanistan
    Spain
    Anatolia
    India-Pakistan
    And increasingly in Northern Europe via regular terror
    Even the USA is a markedly different nation since their 2001 attack, a change which is a form of destruction.

    They didn’t deserve to die. However, under no pretense did they deserve to be in New Zealand.

    It is up to our leaders to correct the injustice of their presence in the West, so that people like Tarrant do not continue to try to accelerate our ever-continuing conflict with their rabidly-aggressive Semitic religion.

    What he did was evil, but at the same time the rest of the West’s eyes and ears shares with Tarrant the same information as to what is occurring as the result of Islamic influx and its facilitation by our fully-compromised leaders.

  32. Anon[745] • Disclaimer says:
    @Waitemata

    How vulgar. But I see now you are American. Clearly you don’t know much about New Zealand or perhaps about anything else if what I have read about the low standard of U.S. education is correct.
    Have you come across the poem ‘Ozymandias’ by the English poet Shelley? It is about the demise of power and the effects of time. Humans beings differ vastly one from another even within families but all that is now sentient will turn to dust as will the U.S. along with all other empires.
    Try reading Spengler and do try to rise above vulgarity, the most odious trait of all.

    I was educated in an elite Anglo-Jewish private school. One of the best and oldest in the United States. What I can tell you is that your fake-pretentious writing is content-free, stylistically florid in the manner of a high school student, and is an attempt to paint yourself as someone that you clearly are not.

    For the future, perhaps try relying less on a self-soothing failed rhetorical mechanism of assuring yourself that you are less “vulgar” than your debate opponent. I know this class term’s implications. Ironically, your writing embodies vulgarity because it makes direct statements in regard to it in an effort to distance yourself from it. Your writing is the equivalent of new money putting out the fine china for a luncheon. You aren’t making any point when you cast your aspersion, other than to reveal your own insecurity, and you repeated it twice as a bookend to one very meager reference to a poet who muses power decline. Your post is weak tea to stand as reinforcement against your low-self esteem.

    • Replies: @Waitemata
  33. Rurik says:

    https://www.activistpost.com/2019/03/nz-police-happened-to-be-in-a-training-session-when-mosque-shooting-began.html

    golly

    what a coincidence, they were running a drill for a ‘shooter’ just as it happened!

    just like 9/11, and 7/7, and the Boston bombing, and Sandy Hook, and so many other infamous acts of treachery and murder that are subsequently used to accomplish everything that Zionist, Jewish supremacists what to accomplish.

    Isn’t that funny and amazing how that always works out?

    New Zealand had recently earned the fury of the Zionists by refusing to kowtow to Israel at the UN.

    And now everyone can see that New Zealand is a racist, murderous nation. And that they’ll now have to turn in all their guns.

    I read somewhere that this guy was recently in Israel. Hmm, I guess that’s another coincidence.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  34. peterAUS says:
    @m___

    Keeping in line with the current M.O.D. required for “public”…let’s say that there IS a nice paragraph in your comment.
    Practicable and achievable.
    The Muhamedans actually tried it once or twice. Failed, of course.

    I expect we’ll see “our” version of it, rather soon.

    • Replies: @m___
  35. @Charles_Martel

    What can I say Charles but you do sound like a hate monger who has little understanding of history but pontificates like a vacuous windbag

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @David
  36. republic says:
    @Charles_Martel

    The NZ authorities are very slow in releasing the bodies. One theory is that many were in NZ as illegals, having overstayed their visas.

    It would embarrass the government if this was revealed.

  37. republic says:
    @Realist

    the root of the problem are those people that pass laws allowing and promote unwanted immigration and those that aid and abet illigal immigration.

    Everyone knows about the US 1965 immigration act, but few observers note that in the same time period, similar laws were passed in Australia and in Sweden among other places.

    Australia had a white Australian policy until the 70s.

    Jewish groups were behind those moves to start a multicultural society.

  38. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    Gee, who has an agenda (that is becoming more and more exposed) to create hatred between Christians and Muslims using the good ol’ “divide and conquer” meme? Anyone care to take a guess?

  39. anonymous[389] • Disclaimer says:

    Rabid Islamophobia here.

    Here are some verses from the Holy Quran, which are specifically addressed to you unfortunates (that of course includes the author …);

    “Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Signs [the primary one being, the Oneness of God], We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment [again and again, for all eternity]. Truly, Allaah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.” [al-Nisa’ 4:56]

    https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4028/response-to-a-stubborn-disbeliever

    This is your fate fellas. Take that to your grave.

    For those who are more moderate, and I see there are a few, may the Almighty One’s forgiveness and blessings be upon you.

  40. @Rurik

    I know what you are saying. You are saying the New Zealand shooting is phony. Well let me tell you something, they flew four specialists who identify disaster victims out of Australia, just to show how serious they are. Because CNN, right there at the source, said there is nothing worse than delivering the wrong body to a grieving family. I know these people were not crushed under a falling building by a plane. When that happens you can’t even find anybody at all, much less identify them. You even have to make up names for them. Here they could just look in their wallets for an ID but it was a nice gesture flying four people out of another country just for that, New Zealanders being incapable of looking in their wallets, their papers, that sort of thing just by themselves. And then not being able to do it, they will start saying stupid things like you are saying that this is just more fake news. Well, sure you can fool some people, but you can’t fool all the people. There were forty people shot and forty more wounded. This is not the first time, after all.
    Getting the wrong body to the wrong family happens all the time when there are mass murders. This happened more than once in Pittsburgh. Some Grieving families got a body that wasn’t even circumcised, how’s that for an insult? I hate to think what a mess it must have been in Las Vegas.

    It is not that there is anything unusual in someone shooting, what, forty people in one place, driving to another to shoot more, and wounding forty more. You see it all the time on television, and you are not going to sit there and tell me that what we see on television is not real. You can do that to a bull but you can’t do that to me. You wave a rag in front of bull and they charge the rag and act as if the rag really is something and they are really angry and concerned. But you can’t do that to people. They don’t start charging a piece of paper being waved at them. Besides, you have got to take the guns away from people. They can be used to hurt the innocent, law abiding, respectable people, the landlords and masters, and not just nobodies. Discuss among yourselves. But don’t say stupid things.

  41. Anastasia says:

    With the number of false flags and hoaxes we see these days, who in their right mind wouldn’t suspect this one. It’s Tanzania’s copy cat, except this one kills two birds with one stone. Get the guns and get everyone to shut up about immigration. How many white supremists in New Zealand, and among those, how many brag about it? I have a number. zero

  42. utu says:

    Who spawned it?

    2004 Israel–New Zealand passport scandal
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Israel–New_Zealand_passport_scandal

    2005 Aircraft failure leaves Clark bruised and shaken
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10120387

    2011 – Mossad spy ring ‘unearthed because of Christchurch earthquake’
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/newzealand/8649223/Mossad-spy-ring-unearthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

    2011- “two Israeli teams arrived in Christchurch: an unaccredited urban search and rescue team that was escorted from the CBD after they were found in a restricted area, and a forensics team that allegedly had access to a national police database”
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10739852

    2015 – Jihadis from New Zealand? Who does recruitment and radicalization?
    https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/new-zealands-jihadis

    2016- Netanyahu ‘told New Zealand backing UN vote would be declaration of war’ (2016)
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/28/netanyahu-told-new-zealand-backing-un-vote-would-be-declaration-of-war

    2017 -Israel permanently downgrades its ties to New Zealand
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-said-to-permanently-downgrade-ties-to-new-zealand-senegal/

    2018 – Jacinda Ardern says US embassy in Jerusalem hurts peace process, as dozens of Palestinians are killed
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/103901797/jacinda-ardern-says-us-embassy-in-jerusalem-not-way-towards-resolution

  43. Waitemata says:
    @Anon

    Oh, Ho, Anglo – Jewish elite education was it, you silly skite. Clearly you didn’t bother to read my first post. Charles Martel’s reply was vulgar and lacking in understanding of a situation I had described.

    • Replies: @AnonStarter
  44. Goodness me,

    When will the masses see reality ………… a false flag event.

    An interesting read, which has similarities to Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, 9/11 7/7 ………. the list goes on and on.

    Reality ………. oh yes, Jacinda was right there following the narrative as dictated by the controllers.

    Wake up people, you are spending far too much time watching television and reading the MSM papers.

    Read this :

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/03/18/undeniable-proof-cgi-used-in-new-zealand-shooting/

    Most certainly a possibility …………….

  45. Waitemata says:
    @Charles_Martel

    No, I haven’t read Reilly. I do have a copy of ‘The Closing of the American Mind’ by Allan Bloom and another book by an English writer Rodney Collombe who spent thirty years in the Middle East in the oil business. It’s called ‘The Rise and Fall of the Arab Empire (and the Founding of Western Pre-Eminence.) Have you read this one ?
    Another good book is ‘The China Mirage’ by James Bradley who also wrote ‘Flags of My Fathers’. Bradley’s own father was one of the marines in the famous wartime photo of the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima. The U.S. of today is not in any way the same society of sixty years ago. I’m going to buy ‘The China Mirage,’ and recommend it to you.
    We have an excellent library service in N.Z. I have discovered titles now banned in the U.S. but in our library sevice (admittedly in stack but available)
    I seriously recommend ‘Palestine, The Reality: The Inside Story of the Balfour Declaration.’ by J.M. N. Jeffries. First published in 1939 most copies were destroyed in the first blitz when Longman’s warehouse got a direct hit. Republished after 70 years in 1917 the anniversary of The Balfour Declaration. There is a copy in our local library. Is there one in yours I wonder?

  46. m___ says:
    @Charles_Martel

    Tanks for pointing to raw sources, the one thing intellectual work is supposed to be built on. Will see if through asap, and if indicative. Thanks again.

  47. m___ says:
    @KenH

    Alas, Israeli stoking of Islamist terrorism, ISIL,, in exchange for oil, to suffocate Christian – Suffi – Shiite – subgroups, united by common interests, in all a minority. The Syria case. We see no difference between drones and state terror and individual actions but in scale. The justification or none, is in the policy, whether greed or reasonable legitimate goals whatever the parties to it. The planetary rulers have presumably none but greed, that accounts for incidents as such. What could halt it, the menace of a change of targets, a real physical and psychological pressure on our global elites to conform to just policies or suffer real consequences ad hominem?

    Indeed the innocent, almost always insignificant commoners, whatever the parties of interest, should by concept of justice, be replaced in the role play by the perpetrators and victims that carry weight and intent. He who takes responsibility, should bare consequence. Wondrous how terrorism on all sides seems to side-step the impact of this concept. The elites have no share of the carnage, whatever the side they are on. Could be a video game to them. That makes terrorism a sub-til tool to our elites to control mass emotion, and subjugation, a game changer, a possible tool for abuse and mind control, set up groups against each other. To them that is the real consequence, and a desirable one, from what thorough analysis cannot neglect.

    Migrations caused by state players, systemics of Financial Capitalism, secondary policies all seem to add up to incite not to relax second tier incidents and feed into the loop.

    The article side-steps the above completely. There seems to be a thorough confusion, in vocabulary between terrorism as a concept of tactics, a warfare technique, and terrorism boiling down to who may and may not, thus deserving the label (second tier minor incidents) while the first is whitewashed (state actors). The confusion seems to be intentional and suitable to our intellectuals and power elites, but has the potential to backfire in the long run.

  48. @Waitemata

    You did well handling Chuckie M. He’s one of numerous Zionists masquerading as a White Nationalist here. Many post as “Anon.” They lean heavy on the “bad Moozie” rhetoric and downplay criticism of Jews and Israel, a telltale sign of who they really are.

    Their objective in infiltrating the WNs is quite simple: portray whites who take pride in their heritage as undignified, violent attack dogs. Do this while instigating war with Muslims and you slay two goy with one stone.

    • Agree: Biff
    • Replies: @Waitemata
    , @Charles_Martel
  49. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    But by murdering random Muslims, (who were invited into New Zealand) he does the cause of Western civilization no favors. Quite the contrary.

    The vast majority of Muslims willingly immigrated to Australia and NZ. I’m not aware of any formal invitation those nations extended to the umma. Even if, for the sake of argument, they were invited it was by a small number of treasonous, self hating and globalist elites and not the vast majority of the people.

    Plenty of innocent whites have been raped and killed by Muslims throughout Europe and it was only a matter of time before Muslims themselves suffered some blowback for the terrorism and horrific crimes they’ve been meting out to the gracious but idiotic and masochistic Western Europeans. That’s just the iron law of nature. I’m just surprised it took this long but better late than never.

    You can’t blame the shooter or not expect people to follow in his footsteps when “our” governments and their (((allies))) in the private sector (ADL,SPLC, etc.,)) are not just waging demographic warfare against us but also mocking, suppressing, dehumanizing, economically marginalizing and even arresting and imprisoning whites who speak out against this genocidal campaign. They’ve made peaceful and legal redress of our grievances impossible and in doing so they are telling young white men like Brenton Tarrant that’s there’s only one option left for them.

    • Agree: Charles_Martel, Sbaker
    • Replies: @anon1
    , @Biff
    , @Rurik
    , @peterAUS
  50. @Waitemata

    “Anglo-Jewish”

    At least he’s honest about his identity, which is more than I can say for most of the fakers here.

  51. nsa says:

    Few remember how plucky Australian and New Zealand have been wantonly attacked throughout history and forced to defend themselves. In 1950 the vicious Koreans attacked Australia and New Zealand, so those two countries had to defend themselves by invading Korea. And who could forget 1964, the year Vietnam viciously attacked both Australia and New Zealand, forcing those two valiant countries to invade Vietnam to defend themselves. And then there is 2001 when Afghanistan brazenly attacked both Australia and New Zealand, forcing those two aggrieved countries to defend themselves by invading Afghanistan. Everyone knows Australia and New Zealand are peace loving countries that would never just attack anyone willy nilly without being attacked first. Right?

    • Replies: @Leon Haller
  52. Kevin says:
    @Charles_Martel

    It’s ironic that you would mention the nukes used on Japan, because this was a crime planned and perpetrated by JEWS like Oppenheimer, Teller, Wigner, von Neumann, Rotblat, etc. (Jews were extremely prevalent, even dominant) in the Manhattan project that led to the death of thousands of Japanese Christians, as Nagasaki and Hiroshima had, coincidentally, the two largest Christian populations in Japan, and the largest Cathedral in East Asia in Nagasaki, the Urakami Cathedral, which was used as a landmark to aim at and ended up near the epicentre.
    And comparing attacking innocent civilians IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY to supposedly justifiably attack ‘invaders’ (not that I am AT ALL justifying Brenton Tarrant; he wasn’t even from New Zealand and he was killing many legal New Zealand citizens).
    The U. S. Occupation forces in Japan even CENSORED newspapers from describing the radiation poisoning effects during the 6 years after the war they were in charge–I’ve been there and seen it!
    And even WORSE than Hiroshima and Nagasaki was Tokyo, which was fire-bombed and utterly devastated.
    And even WORSE than that was Berlin, and Hamburg.
    And Dresden!
    Would it have been ‘justified’ if large American civilian population centers were targetted by the Axis Powers, or by Russia, or Iran?
    Even Pearl Harbor was a military target, at least.
    Americans have NEVER experienced such horrific tragedies being directed towards them (except for POSSIBLY 9/11, which has 1/50 the casualties of Hiroshima), and so they can NEVER fully understand what it’s like.
    Oh, and if you don’t think that Zionist Jews have an outsized influence on U. S. foreign policy, PLEASE read some of Gilad Atzmon’s pieces, and educate yourself.
    Someone named ‘Charles Martel’ really owes it to himself to not be so politically correct, and yet factually incorrect!

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  53. anon1 says:
    @Realist

    That “root” would be Jewish groups and organizations.

    • Replies: @Realist
  54. anon1 says:
    @britishbrainsize1325ccsnicker

    The Maoris got there earlier but they are not really native to the place. They moved there from across the Pacific. In any case they were very few in number. Nice strawman argument though.

  55. Waitemata says:
    @AnonStarter

    Thanks. I didn’t know this.

  56. @AnonStarter

    To call me a Zionist is downright comical, and really, says more about you than about me. I certainly admit that I don’t hate Jews like about 60% of the people who post on the Unz Review. Nor do I think the world is run by Jews–a transparently laughable proposition. Nor, like a good White Nationalist, do I hate any ethnic group you can name. I don’t even hate Arabs qua Arabs. But I am adamant in my dislike and distrust of Mohammedanism and its adherents when they escape their historical sandboxes and colonize places such as New Zealand, France, Britain and the US.

    Quite simply, Mohammedanism has been the sworn enemy of the West ever since the invasion of Spain in 711. They were down for a couple hundred years after the Russians dismembered the Ottoman Empire, but they now are back like a swamp creature in a 1950’s movie that refuses to die. The reason I like Israel isn’t that I’m a Zionist; it is, rather, that they are about the only people other than the Russians, and arguably the Chinese, who are trying to hold back the Mohammedan horde. The minute they stop sticking it to the Muslims, they lose my support.

    This time around, the Mohammedans are armed with nukes, and the West has been disarmed by political correctness, foolish identity politics and a complete lack of historical understanding.

    Tarrant, for all his faults, “gets” it. I’m not sure you do at all. In your fascination with Jews, you seem to ignore the Mohammedan threat.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  57. @Kevin

    I know this much, Kevin–I may well owe my own existence to our having nuked the Japanese. Otherwise, my father, having fought in the Philippines and New Guinea, would have had to hit the Japanese beach under fire and likely would have been killed in the Japan campaign–the Army was predicting several million casualties if Japan had to be invaded. As it was, my father was able to enjoy Occupation Japan in, of all places, Kyoto, and, incidentally, visit Hiroshima 6 weeks after the Bomb. I’m happy to report that the radiation you allege didn’t cause any genetic damage in me or my sisters.

    I suppose that an armchair warrior such as yourself would have preferred to see the US take several million casualties in invading Japan, eh?

    As for your argument about civilian casualties–gimme a break. My dad saw whole villages in the Philippines which had been marched into the jungle by the Japanese and shot. Which is why he hated the Japanese until his dying day. And I guess you are probably a Nanking denier, as well.

    WWII was total war. ‘Nuff said, as far as I’m concerned. So, I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

    Now, can we get back to talking about Mohammedans invading New Zealand, and Mr. Tarrant’s response?

    • Replies: @KevinY
  58. @Waitemata

    Thanks for the reading recommendations. China Mirage sounds most interesting. One thing that surprised me, back in the ’70’s when I took a course in Chinese/Japanese history, was the role of American, British and other missionaries in (unintentionally, no doubt) inspiring the Taiping Rebellion, which killed 20 million people.

    Regarding Balfour, I rather doubt that my local library has a copy–I live in a small city in the American Midwest. But the book is free on the Internet: https://archive.org/details/PalestineTheReality

    As for the US not being the same society as 60 years ago–no shit! But I don’t think NZ is, either. Getting back to the main thread of this discussion, the problem is, the Mohammedans are about the same today as in 1250, which is the at the root of today’s problems with them. Reilly explains this in some detail.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  59. David says:
    @handsignals4theblind

    vacuous windbag

    oxy moron

    (Not calling anyone a moron, btw.)

  60. In which of the five Eastern Seaboard cities at which the Acela stops to take on and discharge passengers — Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, New York — are white nationalists responsible for a significant share of the assaults, robberies, rapes and shootings?

    Is this point made stronger or weaker by substituting white people for white nationalists?

    A universal nation is a contradiction in terms. A nation of all races, religions and tribes had never before existed.

    And here I’d delete the word “before”–but these are quibbles. It’s a provocative, daring essay, and cogently argued as we expect from Mr Buchanan. One day he will be very sorely missed. I hope not soon.

  61. m___ says:
    @peterAUS

    Thanks for your interest in matters.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @m___
  62. Biff says:

    According to Forbes, of the 18,814 deaths caused by terrorists around the world in 2017, well over half were due to the actions of four groups: Islamic State, the Taliban, Al-Shabab and Boko Haram.

    How does Forbes define a terrorist? Any IDF personal on that terrorist list? Drone operators maybe? Are they all terrorists or are some just mentally ill?
    Well just ask your scary mommy.

    https://www.scarymommy.com/terrorism-mental-illness/

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  63. APilgrim says:

    Pat,

    Never look a Gift-Horse in the mouth.

    Just thank God, that it clicked.

    And pray that it starts a GLOBAL trend.

  64. APilgrim says:

    Jihad Report: Mar 09, 2019 – Mar 15, 2019, https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
    Attacks 25
    Killed 149
    Injured 91
    Suicide Blasts 2
    Countries 12

    Jihad Report: February, 2019, https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
    Attacks 151
    Killed 888
    Injured 555
    Suicide Blasts 10
    Countries 23

    • Replies: @Sbaker
  65. @KenH

    You are 100% factually correct, but not perhaps 100% morally so. I applaud your courage in telling it mostly like it is (which is more than they could do at the self-styled “White nationalist” site Counter-currents).

    I am completely opposed to all Third World invasions, and have been since grade school in the 1970s. That does not make me a “White nationalist” or neo-Nazi, etc. My anti-diversitist views are those of my parents, grandparents, and most Americans of earlier generations. The USA of the Founders was not intended to be multiracial, and the result, as I predicted decades ago, has been disastrous (“oh no, they’re not like blacks … these immigrants are hardworking and will assimilate like earlier generations of {White} immigrants … blahblah” – how much of that I had to listen to in the 80s-90s).

    That Third World immigration is clearly nothing less than government abetted demographic warfare and imperialistic conquest does not, however, of itself provide moral license to what Tarrant did. He is obviously not insane. I read his entire manifesto, and though either uneducated or under stress at the time of composition, Tarrant is far wiser and more rational than most of America’s punditocracy (of course who knows what these people really think). He understands the way it really is – that Muslims have no right to live in the White Christian West; that their very presence is a hostile act; and that these immigrants therefore bear at least some blame for Tarrant’s rampage. After all, if I build a Christian church in, say, Pakistan, I’m probably asking for trouble. Why shouldn’t Muslims be subject to the same strictures? Why, in a kind of reverse racism, must Whites always be held to behaviorally much higher standards than other races?

    I’m not unsympathetic to Tarrant. I know “where’s he’s coming from.”

    So why is he evil (or at least deeply ethically misguided)? Homicide is a terrible act. Western thinkers have developed moral/theological standards for when it can be justified, and usually those involve immediate self-defense. That was not the case here.

    The other situation where homicide is justified is in war. That’s a big topic. Tarrant thinks we’re in a war. We are – BUT IT’S NOT {YET} A SHOOTING WAR. And even in a shooting war, moral men are not supposed to kill civilians deliberately. That is terrorism (slaughtering innocents to effectuate political change), or plain murder.

    These Muslims in NZ should not have been there, but they themselves were not harming anyone (except by their improper presence). They did nothing meriting capital punishment. Even if they had been illegal aliens, trespassing is not a capital crime (illegals should be rounded up and deported; if they violently resist their lawful deportation, however, they can be justifiably treated as enemy combatants, and shot on sight). These Muslims didn’t even break any laws (as far as I know). Were they most at fault, or were the globalists responsible for allowing them to settle in NZ?

    Tarrant tragically threw away his life and those of others. Had he been ethical, he could have instead thrown his energies into working to change the situation: organizing nationalist resistance; writing letters to the editor against the immigration invasion; buttonholing politicians; or even running for office.

    True White Preservationists understand that our struggle is a moral but long one. Let none of us waste ourselves in futile violent theatrics! We are too needed for the ongoing struggle!

    • Replies: @KenH
  66. Biff says:
    @KenH

    You can’t blame the shooter

    • Replies: @Biff
  67. @Charles_Martel

    “I don’t know much about New Zealand other than the fact that the white settlers there pretty much wiped out the aborigines–a “vulgar” act if there ever was one.”

    Correct, you know nothing. The pre-European natives tried to exterminate the arriving British settlers, but the Brits were tougher (yay!). They did NOT wipe out the natives, however, who today are growing in population – to no good account (lots of antiwhite racial hatred among them, even though the Maori contributed nothing to civilization, yet feel comfortable availing themselves of every possible White technology, not to mention liberty).

    • Agree: anon1
    • Replies: @Waitemata
    , @Charles_Martel
  68. @nsa

    You’re a liberal ass. Go away.

    • Replies: @nsa
  69. Biff says:
    @Biff

    “Do you blame the gun?”

    Should’ve been in there somewhere.

  70. Anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:

    I have lost track of the world population, but surely it is over a billion. If that number produces 25, or so, “terrorist” killers per year, who can be surprised. This does not mean I am pleased by it, but, I suspect the problem to be insoluble.

  71. nsa says:
    @Leon Haller

    A pity dear old Adolph missed your relatives…….

  72. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    Even if, for the sake of argument, they were invited it was by a small number of treasonous, self hating and globalist elites

    and my point is that those should have been the target (metaphorically speaking) of Mr. Tarrant’s understandable and justifiable wrath.

    better late than never.

    the problems is, that it looks like a temper tantrum, and a cowardly act. He shot unarmed worshipers. Didn’t he understand the ‘optics’ of that?

    If he’d had taking on the security detail of the most notorious New Zealand traitorous politician, and blasted away, taking a few hits himself in the process, then I suppose he’d have a lot of sympathy from the people of the West. But by murdering unarmed people in a mosque or synagogue or Church, like that Dylan Roof loser, (even tho I consider that a synthetic event), he only engenders visceral revulsion. (that is if it happened the way they say it did, at all)

    when “our” governments and their (((allies))) in the private sector (ADL,SPLC, etc.,)) are not just waging demographic warfare against us but also mocking, suppressing, dehumanizing, economically marginalizing and even arresting and imprisoning whites who speak out against this genocidal campaign. They’ve made peaceful and legal redress of our grievances impossible …

    I emboldened the word ‘They’ve’, because ‘they’ are the legitimate targets for our collective ire, not innocent people they’re using as pawns – yes, in a very real ethno-war to see us utterly destroyed. But there’s nothing honorable about taking out unarmed pawns. It does harm to the cause, IMHO.

    reply 68 looks well considered and thought-out, I mostly agree with his sentiments.

    Cheers

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Stonehands
  73. APilgrim says:

    Muhammadans: God Bless Brenton Harrison Tarrant!

    Globalist/Socialists: God Bless Anders Behring Breivik!

    Monopolists: ??? Still Waiting ???

  74. The Western world melts down
    God is in retreat
    In greed and lust she drowns
    Tares o’errun the wheat

  75. @Charles_Martel

    Quite simply, Mohammedanism has been the sworn enemy of the West ever since the invasion of Spain in 711.

    The golden age of Jewish culture in Spain, which coincided with the Middle Ages in Europe, is a period of Muslim rule in much of the Iberian Peninsula during which Jews were generally accepted in society and Jewish religious, cultural, and economic life flourished.

    The nature and length of this “Golden Age” has been debated, as there were at least three periods during which non-Muslims were oppressed. A few scholars give the start of the Golden Age as 711–718, the Muslim conquest of Iberia.
    Others date it from 912, during the rule of Abd-ar-Rahman III. The end of the age is variously given as 1031, when the Caliphate of Cordoba ended; 1066, the date of the Granada massacre; 1090, when the Almoravids invaded; or the mid-12th century, when the Almohads invaded.

    just sayin’

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  76. @Biff

    Teenagers at a private party in affluent (near-rhyme with flatulent) Orange County, CA, made a swastika of plastic cups and assumed Sieg Heil posture. Photos went viral.
    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/04/700168758/nazi-saluting-teens-provoke-outrage-in-california-after-photos-flood-internet

    School authorities and law enforcement officials swung into action; the head of the School Board expressed “concern about the mental health of the young people in our community who did this horrendous act.”

    Plans were made for community meetings to discuss the outrage.

    No word yet on what Hollywood actors will sponsor Student Activists who will march on Washington, DC and testify before Congress demanding that ALL RED AND WHITE DRINKING CUPS BE BANNED!

  77. KevinY says:
    @Charles_Martel

    Your comparisons are not only ill-conceived but also numerically ridiculous.
    I notice that you completely ignored the point about the Americans *never* having to suffer any of what they have dealt to other nations.
    What do you think about the Iraq War? Nearly 2 MILLION Iraqis were the cost of the same desire to ‘bring Democracy to the World’ that made WWII such a ‘good war’ even though, prior to Pearl Harbor, 80% of citizens were AGAINST it (including many prominent individuals on both the right and left in the America Frist Committee)!
    Such is the arrogance of all too many Americans.
    Have you ever read Kurt Vonnegut (by no means a Fascist or sympathiser!)
    What do you think about Dresden? Berlin? Hamburg?
    The bottom line is that the United States had NO BUSINESS being in Asia in the first place.
    Asia is for the Asians! That’s what the Co-Prosperity Sphere was all about.
    WWII was fought between Colonial Powers like France, Britain, the U. S. and the U. S. S. R., and Nationalist powers that had virtually no colonies such as Germany, Japan, Romania, Croatia, Slovakia, Finland, etc.
    BUT LEST YOU FORGET THE ACTUAL HISTORY OF THE PHILIPPINES, I WILL REMIND YOU.
    In the late 19th century, the Philippines were PROMISED their independence by the U. S. in the Spanish-American War, and then after Spain withdrew the U. S. RENEGED on that promise, just like they have broken so many promises in the past, and continued to colonially oppress the Philippines for over four decades after that!
    It is no wonder that of the FIVE major political figures in the Philippines, ALL BUT ONE SUPPORTED JAPAN in WWII.
    1. Emilio Aguinaldo, the freedom fighter ‘George Washington’ figure, who was betrayed all those decades ago.
    2. Jose P. Laurel, the president who cooperated with the Japanese.
    3. Benigno Aquino Sr., whose son was assassinated (most likely by Marcos) and grandson was actually president of the Philippines until a couple years ago!
    4. Last but not least, Artemio Ricarte, a brave and courageous general who could have lived out his days in peace in Yokohama with his wife where they ran a Filipino Tea shop (that I have been to!) but instead chose to fight with his Asian brothers to the very end, and most likely died of dysentery. He famously said:
    “I can not take refuge in Japan at this critical moment when my people are in actual distress. I will stay in my Motherland to the last.”
    Ricarte was buried at the Hero’s Cemetery and is revered in the Philippines today for his patriotism and bravery.

    5. The ONLY major political figure supporting the U. S. was Manuel Quezon, and he had to go into EXILE during WWII.

    Basically, it might be tough, but you need to quit blindly believing Allied propaganda.
    Especially trying to justify the ATOM BOMB of all things is plainly ridiculous!
    Might I suggest to you the book ‘Japan Bites Back’ by Joshua Blakeney, which is composed of mainly ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, similar to David Irving’s work on the German side?
    Or at the very least, research things like the McCollum Memo and how Winston Churchill, in his memoirs, said of FDR:
    “He seeks to wage war without declaring it against Japan, to find a ‘back door’ to war with Germany.”
    Obviously, war is a terrible thing, and put many in impossible situations on both sides.
    But this retconning of history to fit a politically correct narrative stems from the type of ignorance, arrogance, and calumny that have caused Americans to be so hated the world over in the first place!

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  78. peterAUS says:
    @KenH

    Pretty much.

    In this particular case, for example, the first reaction of TPTBs was to ban watching the video and reading the guy’s manifesto.

    The person who actually stopped the massacre at the first location was a local Muslim with a firearm who engaged the attacker. The very principle of the armed citizenry in free societies.
    Etc.

    They don’t listen. They don’t allow any show of dissent. And they keep their agenda.
    And then they are surprised when a blowback happens.

    It all boils down to how stupid the white masses are. As I said before, “good times make weak men”. We are in that phase. Hard times, imposed by the paradigm, will make hard men.
    I am sure that within the next couple of years we’ll see plenty of them around.

    One more thing.
    Plenty of white guys aren’t that stupid. They just know how to behave and good on them.
    Just since the event I’ve had several surprisingly positive conversations around here.
    And, more TPTBs push, as they shall, more guys will get it.

    All in all, not bad, overall.

    • Replies: @KenH
  79. Mulegino1 says:

    A massacre of dozens, as was committed by Tarrant, or Breivik, (what about Baruch Goldstein?) is a tragedy and a crime and warrants endless psychoanalysis and condemnation.

    The massacres of dozens, of tens and hundreds of thousands by the state- Waco, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Hamburg, Iraq, Libya, Serbia, etc. – are mere statistics.

    This is the kosher aquarium we live in.

  80. peterAUS says:
    @m___

    N.p.
    And, you nailed something here too:

    What could halt it, the menace of a change of targets, a real physical and psychological pressure on our global elites to conform to just policies or suffer real consequences ad hominem?

    …indeed the innocent, almost always insignificant commoners, whatever the parties of interest, should by concept of justice, be replaced in the role play by the perpetrators and victims that carry weight and intent. He who takes responsibility, should bare consequence. Wondrous how terrorism on all sides seems to side-step the impact of this concept. The elites have no share of the carnage, whatever the side they are on. Could be a video game to them.

    Although, the guy in Norway did hit them, hard (the elites I mean).

    This guy chose a different target and for specific reasons which do make a lot of sense. Or, he simply repeated the same method most political radicals do: target in order to provoke a state reaction onto “own” side. That’s likely to radicalize the “own” side. And the circle repeats until the major confrontation.

    Comical is watching the common reaction here.
    TPTBs know exactly what they are doing. Mohamedans know exactly what they are doing too.
    White people, ONLY, have, in general, no idea what’s going on, let alone what they are doing or not. Pure Eloi. Funny actually.
    All the rest, native Polynesians and especially recent immigrants from China, India, South Africa, and Eastern Europe know exactly what’s going on and, to their credit, know how to behave.

    Group dynamics is funny: a group of say, around dozen people, majority Whites the rest as above->topic is something else and then a White person mentions the event->ONLY Whites start talking the usual…the rest simply watch, listen, nod here and there, but, they don’t talk. Only Whites talk and, of course, all that along the party line. Surreal really.
    Having said that, some other Whites, let alone Chinese and Indians, in one to one little chats….well, let’s say the attitude is rather different. Especially the Indians.

    So, some guys on “our” side ARE learning.
    Not bad.

  81. Realist says:
    @anon1

    That “root” would be Jewish groups and organizations.

    And their White sycophants in Congress plus Trump.

  82. Sbaker says:
    @Charles_Martel

    You and KenH get it. I tell you now there are hundreds of Muslim terrorist cells in the US with money coming in support from moderate Muslims everywhere. Islam is a worldwide political movement to subjugate the masses, steal their property and kill the infidels.

    It seems the UNZ is a site where many of the islamophiles and Muslims post their venomous spittle.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  83. Sbaker says:
    @APilgrim

    Please, the facts have no place in an emotional discussion. The Muslim posters are busy mourning and planning their attack on the next soft target. Where do they hide their war room–look no further than their mosques.

    • Replies: @APilgrim
    , @peterAUS
  84. APilgrim says:
    @Sbaker

    We should tend to business, at home & abroad.

    Serial Deportation & Mass Deportation are a start.

    Extermination is eventually essential.

  85. peterAUS says:
    @Sbaker

    Please, the facts have no place in an emotional discussion.

    Yep.

    The Muslim posters are busy mourning and planning their attack on the next soft target.

    Correct.
    Also, TPTBs are busy keeping the White masses from seeing reality. And, busy planning next steps in curtailing free speech, information control, enhancing surveillance state etc.
    The masses, White only naturally, are busy toeing the line, BUT, at the same time, that general unease appears to be growing. Nothing substantial, just unease about all this around them.
    SOME will get it fast. All the rest doesn’t matter.

    Where do they hide their war room–look no further than their mosques.

    Which opens the problem for TPTBs. In order to manage the next attack they’d like to know about its coming. The only way is to have the place under proper surveillance and/or having reliable informants. To do either isn’t easy….hehe……could create additional problems.
    Now, correction. TPTBs don’t have the problem, Security Servies have. They must deliver which they can not. That creates, within their lower ranks, a certain train of thought.
    Not bad.

  86. Waitemata says:
    @Leon Haller

    Yes, Maori put up a very good fight. They were indeed a warrior race and unfortunately were very keen to purchase muskets in order to do battle with traditional tribal enemies as well which weakened their defence. There has been considerable intermarriage between Europeans and Polynesian people. As the years have passed and the we are less and less of an isolated, country far from the complex and conflicted world above the equator, Europeans here are becoming more aware that their deep identity here is bound up with the Maori people and Maori language classes are increasingly popular. Maori TV is a really good channel using Maori and English. They have interesting documentaties and film series including a series of French classic films.
    As well as Maori there are other distinct Pacific ethnic groups in New Zealand, Samoan, Tongan, Fijian, Cooke Iskanders, Niuean, Tokelauan, Tuvaluan, and Kiribati. There is violence between gangs and pockets of left over threatened Pakeha (whites) but Indian dairies are favourite target for attack by Polynesians so the questions of racial tensions are as complex as anywhere else.
    Large numbers of Maori were put out of work when the maverick Labour government of the eighties rushed through the devastating programme of globalisation, deregulation and privatisation. This and the wreckage in universities with social engineering bilge from the Frankfort school running like poison through every department, has fomented politically correct posturing and hate as it has everywhere else. The good news is more and more people are waking up.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Leon Haller
  87. (((Who))) caused the slaughter?

  88. Corvinus says:

    “Some migrants are more difficult than others to assimilate into Western societies.”

    Like Eastern and Southern Europeans to America.

    “Americans, after all, reacted viscerally to the Irish migration of 1845-1849, and, again, to the Great Migration from Central and Eastern Europe from 1890 to 1920. Inter-ethnic violence was not uncommon.”

    Right, the “true” Americans–WASPs.

    “Our leaders in the 1920s understood this and took steps to halt the migrations until those who had come could be assimilated, and, in a word, Americanized. It worked.”

    Halt the migrations of undesirables from Italy, Poland, Serbia, and Greece. Had the WASPs got what they wanted, they would stopped completely these hordes from entering their shores.

    “By 1960, we were a united people.”

    We generally have been a united people.

    “Then, without the people’s consent, the great experiment began”

    LOL. Of course citizens gave their consent. Furthermore, this “great experiment” began in 1790.

    “America’s doors were thrown open to peoples of every religion, race, culture and creed, to create a different nation that mirrored all mankind in its diversity, in Ben Wattenberg’s phrase, a universal nation.”

    Actually, this process began in earnest, again by 1790;

    “A nation of all races, religions and tribes had never before existed.”

    Doesn’t mean that there cannot be a first.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Colin Wright
  89. Corvinus says:
    @Sbaker

    “You and KenH get it. I tell you now there are hundreds of Muslim terrorist cells in the US with money coming in support from moderate Muslims everywhere.”

    You can tell us all you want. It’s just your “feeling”, rather than hard evidence.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
  90. @Grace Poole

    Good point, but I don’t recall saying that Mohammedanism has always been the sworn enemy of Judaism. It is now, of course, by trying definitively to date the beginning of that phenonmenon would require 50 additional posts back and forth….

  91. @Charles_Martel

    One thing that surprised me, back in the ’70’s when I took a course in Chinese/Japanese history, was the role of American, British and other missionaries in (unintentionally, no doubt) inspiring the Taiping Rebellion, which killed 20 million people.

    Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom is a recent book that looks at some of the Chinese players in that near-miss of a dynastic change. It argues that a Taiping victory would have brought about in China something similar to Japan’s Meiji Restoration. Whatever one thinks of the author’s thesis, the characters are fascinating and clearly highly intelligent.

  92. @Leon Haller

    I stand corrected. Looking into the matter a little further, I find that the Maoris weren’t wiped out so much as overwhelmed. Still, their population declined by 50% during the 19th century due to the usual causes: war, disease, etc. https://nzhistory.govt.nz/media/photo/maori-and-european-population-numbers-1838%E2%80%931901 And they are somehting on the order of 15% of NZ population today.

  93. peterAUS says:
    @Waitemata

    The good news is more and more people are waking up.

    Would you be willing to expand on that?

    My impression, from contacts with Kiwis, is quite the opposite.
    Or, better, your “threatened Pakeha (whites)” types aren’t waking up, I think. On the contrary in fact.
    The rest do get it, of course, as everywhere else.

  94. Sbaker says:
    @Corvinus

    It is not a feeling. The Intelligence is there and so is the history.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  95. anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    I watched the video in its entirety yesterday and haven’t seen anything so phony in a long time. It looks like a video game and when he’s shooting people, the spent cartridges fall out of the gun but disappear in mid-air. I didn’t see any blood anywhere while he’s shooting people who already look motionless. I am sure with multiple bullets going into people (even if they’re wearing a covering from head to toe) there would be signs of blood somewhere. I’m no expert video analyst, but this video looks like it was shot in high-school video class where the students are learning basic film editing. There have been many people who have pointed this out and after that happened, the film was banned. Too late to have any effect as there are millions of copies all over the world.

    • Agree: anarchyst
    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  96. anon[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Halt the migrations of undesirables from Italy, Poland, Serbia, and Greece. Had the WASPs got what they wanted, they would stopped completely these hordes from entering their shores.

    lol

    but for the Romans, Christians, and Greeks, Anglos would still be painting their faces and living in mud huts.

  97. KenH says:
    @Leon Haller

    The other situation where homicide is justified is in war. That’s a big topic. Tarrant thinks we’re in a war. We are – BUT IT’S NOT {YET} A SHOOTING WAR.

    Given how the Muslims have used bombs and automatic weapons in some of their European and U.K. terrorist attacks I’d say we kinda are in a shooting war, albeit an infrequent and sporadic one. To my knowledge things have been quiet in NZ but as the Muslim population grows there that’s very likely to change (for the worse) as events in the U.K., Scandinavia and W. Europe serve as a harbinger.

    Tarrant seems to have researched the mosque he chose as a target and believes it had a prior history of supporting extremism and therefore made itself a legitimate target.

    I certainly understand that a case can be made against this sort of attack especially in a place of worship which is supposed to be inviolate. But a case can also be made for direct action given that Muslims seem to think they can disrespect their Western hosts with impunity and do as they please and the government’s willful and deliberate failures to police and swiftly deport Muslim populations suspected to be sympathetic to radicals. And don’t forget that Muslims have been bombing churches in Egypt and the Philippines so it’s not like they are above such acts of terrorism.

    I hope our struggle doesn’t last that long as time is not on our side given the numbers of third world immigrants entering Western nations and disproportionate birthrates favoring them. That’s why Tarrant believed terror attacks that would polarize the population and provoke central governments into overreaction (which then radicalizes more people) was probably the best way to secure a future for whites. Right now we’re just the frogs being slow boiled to death.

    Morality is fine in the abstract, but what wars were actually won while also maintaining high moral and ethical standards? I’m not aware of any and Europe’s Muslim foes and America’s Jewish, black and brown foes aren’t encumbered by any such moral considerations and seek to win by any means necessary and so should we.

    • Agree: Charles_Martel
    • Replies: @anonymous
  98. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    huh

    you actually assumed “kill them over there so we don’t have to kill them over here” was a well-thought out plan?

    It was the plan of George Frickin’ Bush.
    What were you thinking?

    • Replies: @KenH
  99. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    and my point is that those should have been the target (metaphorically speaking) of Mr. Tarrant’s understandable and justifiable wrath.

    I don’t disagree and that was the road taken by Anders Brevik, but you’re also arguing that, because they were allowed in by our treasonous leaders, Western Muslims don’t have agency and shouldn’t be held to account for their actions when they act against the interests of their gracious hosts either via acts of terrorism, moral support for Islamic extremists or in the political sphere. So on that point I disagree since they do have agency and should be held to account for their actions.

    Both are leaders and the wayward Muslims can and should be held responsible, not just the former.

    the problems is, that it looks like a temper tantrum, and a cowardly act. He shot unarmed worshipers. Didn’t he understand the ‘optics’ of that?

    I get the sense that he did and doesn’t put a lot of stock into the optics debate. The Jewish led radical left, black extremists and Muslim terrorists don’t seem to twist themselves into gordian knots over optics. Only our side does.

    Muslims rape, maim and kill innocent Europeans all the time but people hold them to a lower standard and make excuses for them (regime change, the drone war, blah, blah, blah). Newton’s third law of motion was bound to force it’s way into the narrative at some point and Brenton Tarrant decided to pay them back, but in doing so is unfairly being held to a much higher standard.

    Muslim men are even raping women in Finland. In once case they cut off a Finnish woman’s clitoris and made her eat it.
    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2019/03/20/ed-dutton-with-an-evolutionary-perspective-on-the-rape-of-finland/

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @anon
  100. KenH says:
    @anonymous

    huh
    you actually assumed…..

    How do you know what I assumed? Can you read my mind? I was staunchly opposed to the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

    • Replies: @anon
  101. KenH says:
    @peterAUS

    The person who actually stopped the massacre at the first location was a local Muslim with a firearm who engaged the attacker. The very principle of the armed citizenry in free societies.

    The version I read just had him picking up a spent shotgun dropped by the attacker. The Muslim brandished it and since the attacker was out of ammo he left the area but said he would be back to finish off the shotgun wielding Muslim. But the shooter (Tarrant) was apprehended after leaving the scene of the crime.

    But some media outlets are eager for a hero and are transforming this survivor into a Muslim John Wayne.

  102. ‘…The problem: A universal nation is a contradiction in terms. A nation of all races, religions and tribes had never before existed.’

    It could be argued this is incorrect.

    Rome extended citizenship to all free inhabitants of the empire at the beginning of the third century.

    Of course, it then collapsed into a century of civil war and anarchy, and when order was restored, emerged as a drastically more regimented and authoritarian society — but that doesn’t disprove my point.

  103. @Corvinus

    ‘…Doesn’t mean that there cannot be a first.’

    Your mindless orthodoxy is tedious.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  104. Mike-SMO says:
    @Rurik

    You may miss his point. The murderer was “ex-Communist”, “ex-Anarchist” and now, an “Ecco-fascist”. “Victims” have no meaning to such people except as a means to an end or, more usually, to remove an impediment to an end. His rant mentions a theory that these murders will stimulate Americans of similar attitudes to attack and disarm the “deplorables” thereby causing an ideological and race-based Civil War that will destroy American power. I suspect that to this “Lefty”, the targets in the mosque were not even “human”.

    His goal is power and not an attempt to convince people to join his murderous dementia. Stop trying to be logical. That will just get you killed.

    This dim-whit’s lawyer will probably go for “insanity” but this is no different than Stalin’s treatment of Kukaks or Commrade Trotsky. Remember that the “Russians” didn’t particularly like the Ukrainians, Poles or Kazaks. Team Putin is working much better now.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  105. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Should read …aid and abet illegal…

  106. Corvinus says:
    @Sbaker

    “It is not a feeling. The Intelligence is there and so is the history.”

    You are desperate to believe something that is not observably true.

  107. Corvinus says:
    @Colin Wright

    “Your mindless orthodoxy is tedious.”

    Your statement actually personifies the Alt Right. Well done!

  108. Our leaders in the 1920s understood this and took steps to halt the migrations until those who had come could be assimilated, and, in a word, Americanized. It worked. By 1960, we were a united people.;

    I disagree with the view that the Ellis Island immigrants were assimilated. If that were the case, their descendants wouldn’t put the immigrant narrative above the native or WASP narrative. Would we have neocons, Israel-Firsters, or Bolshevists among Jews if assimilation worked? Would there still be an Italian Mafia or Chinatowns if assimilation worked?

    Scandinavians, Germans, Irish, French, and other non-Jewish immigrants from Europe were able to fit in with the majority WASP culture and population, but they didn’t really assimilate, and that is evidenced by the fact that the areas where they settled in large numbers are still fairly distinct culturally, politically, and otherwise. Jews didn’t assimilate at all.

    I argue that if the immigrants from the earlier “great” waves of immigrants had assimilated, we’d still have a WASP culture and political class, and solid pre-1964 demographics. The fact that the nation of the founding stock has been destroyed, and the founding stock demonized, is proof enough that no wave of immigrants assimilated.

  109. @KenH

    I agree. I voted for Pat, but if he understands the concept of invader, he also understands the concept of defending against invaders. The governments of the West are failing in their duties to protect their peoples from invasion. What Tarrant did is far more legitimate than the actions of any American soldier fighting in a war of aggression.

    • Replies: @anon1
  110. @Waitemata

    “Waking up” to what?

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  111. Rurik says:
    @KenH

    Muslim men are even raping women in Finland. In once case they cut off a Finnish woman’s clitoris and made her eat it.

    not sure why they’re so offended by what I consider perhaps God’s greatest gift. As they revile it, I worship at its Heavenly alter. Often.

    this is my latest bloviating on the New Zealand thing

    http://www.unz.com/forum/new-zealand-shooting-49-are-dead-after-2-mosques-are-hit/#comment-3104812

  112. Rurik says:
    @Mike-SMO

    convince people to join his murderous dementia.

    I didn’t read the manifesto or watch the video.

    As far as I’m concerned, it may have been a huge hoax. (these things often are).

    And you’re right, leftists are always far more murderous and fiendish than the right could ever be.

    Stalin and Mao made Hitler and Franco look like a choir boys.

  113. peterAUS says:
    @Leon Haller

    “Waking up” to what?

    Depends.

    Elites know exactly what they want; they aren’t that competent, bordering on hysterical, though, in implementing their agendas.

    Minorities also know what they want and they do what they need to get it.

    Whites go in two groups: “native” Kiwis and recent immigrants from all over the world. The later also know what they want but because they are white find difficulties getting it. They do understand the game, though.
    The former, real Pakeha, around 80 % of them, are pure Eloi/sheeple/drones. They don’t get it and my impression is they never will.
    5 % of native white Kiwis do get it and they do their best to manage their lives there.
    Now…..the ONLY interesting part there are that 15 % who just started to get that uneasy feeling that things aren’t exactly as they thought they were. Something isn’t quite right.
    My take: from those, we can expect probably third to “get it”. The rest will sink into the “drone zone”.

    And, that applies to both New Zealand and Australia. I’d say a bit more to Kiwis, though.

    • Replies: @Waitemata
  114. anon[392] • Disclaimer says:

    Yet, predictably, within 48 hours, the president of the United States was being publicly indicted as a moral accomplice.” Author.

    Trump should be excoriated billion times more with choicest epithet for saying Golan should be recognized as part of Israel.

    • Replies: @Charles_Martel
  115. @anonymous

    What I didn’t understand about the videos is how Tarrant fired his shotgun through the front windshield (windscreen) of the car but didn’t break any glass–as opposed to when he was shooting through a side window and did break glass. It’s possible that this was due to the bad quality of the video, but still, it looked a tad fishy.

  116. @anon

    And why shouldn’t Israel get the Golan? They conquered it in a war in which they were attacked by the Muzzies; it’s theirs until the Muzzies drive them out with the force of arms. I’m not sure where you are from, Mr. Disclaimer, but one thing is for sure–somewhere in your past, some conqueror took over and annexed the land in which you are now happily living. Are you prepared to give your house, land, car and cow to the loser in that conflict?

    • Replies: @anon
  117. m___ says:
    @m___

    The hammer of Thor, the Malinois dog, Godefroy de Bouillon, were not the average Christian prospect of the 1100 Charles Martel. A larger population, containing some serious biodiversity these Europeans. The Best and Worst far apart. The larger part of European bloodlines are about submissiveness, cultural and other. The “conqueror” soul, was a fringe by itself. Western rule carried a massive dose of indeliberate coincidence. Explains much of the times of “malaise” we are cruising.

    Your suggestion, the dominant idea, is yes submissiveness, to any authority what-so-ever, the middle classes are generationally trapped into it. They are seemingly hypnotized by the caking of the pot. The psychological, “first get in charge”, then start the “on principle” is not within grasp it seems. Physical courage, and cognitive capability both lacking as much. So a very small fringe group will have a hard time gaining momentum, to turn the tide.

  118. anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles_Martel

    No I am not at all questioning Israel here. I am just referring to the white trash – Trump- your Lord who has been bought and paid by Adelsohn to accept it as a reality . Just saying ! Don’t get upset . Money-Benjamin! You know that buys your leaders !! ,Money , which prompts your country to attack and loot other countries!

    But do you see pattern ? Those days are slowly receding into black memory hole . Leading white trash -that is Trump is begging for money from all over the world and his supporters are hoping for some crumbs to survive next day and go to the evangelical church to offer support for Israel.

    15 th century is going to revisit Europe and no Columbus will cross the ocean again.
    That all I am saying .

    Get ready for the slow fall into the 17th century abyss.

  119. anon[278] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Pompeo says God may have sent Trump to save Israel from Iran
    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said it is “possible” that President Donald Trump was sent by God to save Israel from Iran.
    In an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network during a high-profile trip to Israel, he said it was his faith that made him believe that.
    He also praised US efforts to “make sure that this democracy in the Middle East, that this Jewish state, remains”.
    The comments came on a Jewish holiday celebrating rescue from genocide.
    The holiday, Purim, commemorates the biblical rescue of the Jewish people by Queen Esther from the Persians, as the interviewer noted to Mr Pompeo.– https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47670717

    May be this guy was celebrating Purim before Pompeo did with IDF in Gaza.

  120. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Your opposition is laudable and is ineffective . It has done the damage . Now ,with the rest, you and everybody else will reap the harvest . Sorry and Oops! its a mistake – don’t count , will not . The Australian psycho did not recognize any of those ,but learned from his books ,churches,political organizations, town hall meetings,and internet chat that the Muslims who cam there legally should be killed to avenge something that happened in 8th century . To him legal document is a piece of paper that can be pitched in the bin the dark for dog to eat ( his dog I guess ) and revocation of existing regulations or laws can be applied retroactively. If not ,can be violently .
    Sounds like another Saddam hater ,sounds like another Iran hater ,sounds like another KN leader hater.

    BTW ,did he seek the expulsion of people like Sebastian Gorka back to Hungary ?

  121. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump issued an order designating parts of Somalia an “area of active hostilities,” which substantially relaxed restrictions on the targets and potential civilian casualties of air- and ground strikes. Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, commander of the U.S. Africa Command, has declined to characterize the U.S. as “at war” in Somalia in congressional testimony, but the area of active hostilities designation and the corresponding uptick in strikes suggest the military is effectively treating the country as a war zone. According to data from New America, including drone strikes, manned strikes, and ground raids, the U.S. carried out 37 strikes in 2017, all but one after Trump took office and almost three times as many as in the last full year of the Obama administration. Last year it was 43. In 2019, the U.S. is on pace to triple that number.
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/trump-administration-somalia-war-civilian-casualties.html

    This guy should have joined Australian military .At last no-one would have called him SOMETHING .

    He would have got a hero’s welcome to the arms of the quintessentially racist politicians and evangelicals of Australia. The Evangelical with the real face .

  122. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-the-transnational-network-that-nobody-is-talking-about/

    Bottom Line Up Front
    • There are possible links between the recent New Zealand mosque shooter and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion.
    • The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) movement.
    • Recruits from the U.S., Norway, Italy, Germany, the United Kingdom, Brazil, Sweden, and Australia, among others, have reportedly traveled to train with the Azov Battalion.
    • The global nature of these groups is just one of several similarities between RWEs and Salafi-jihadists.
    .
    In the wake of the New Zealand mosque attacks, links have emerged between the shooter, Brent Tarrant, and a Ukrainian ultra-nationalist, white supremacist paramilitary organization called the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s manifesto alleges that he visited the country during his many travels abroad, and the flak jacket that Tarrant wore during the assault featured a symbol commonly used by the Azov Battalion. Tarrant’s transnational ties go beyond Ukraine, however. Tarrant claimed that he was in touch with Anders Behring Breivik, the Norwegian terrorist, and he took trips throughout Europe, including the Balkans, visiting sites that symbolized historical battles between Christians and Muslims. During the video of his attack he could be heard listening to a song that glorified Bosnian-Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic, and his gun featured racial messages and names of white supremacists from around the world. 
    The Azov Battalion is emerging as a critical node in the transnational right-wing violent extremist (RWE) network. This group maintains its own ‘Western Outreach Office’ to help recruit and attract foreign fighters that travel to train and connect with people from like-minded violent organizations from across the globe

  123. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles_Martel

    1 The Closing of the American Mind .

    2American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America

    very good books . You should read . What else shall you read?

    Israel In the Mind of America by P Grose ( well appreciated by Shimon Peres ). Very good book and a warning to future empire — don’t allow the Jews to come to powerful positions

  124. anon1 says:
    @OilcanFloyd

    Don’t invade the world and don’t invite the world. Just defend your country.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @anon
  125. @anon1

    Thanks for the enlightenment. The problem is that I didn’t invite anyone and I don’t support the wars.

  126. anon[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon1

    Trump has made Bush look good .Using that rehabilitation , those bastards are trying to sneak into other positions of power,persuasion and positions again. One of them is his Press Secretary who thinks Bush Lied people died – is a lie.

    There is a lesson here. These rats will undermined Trump and anyone who doesn’t want to disappear Iran Syria NK Russia or Venezuela . Once those leaders are hapless and reduced to mocking , they will jump back to destroy whats left of the country by waging those very wears .

    The silence of Alt Right on war , on foreign -economic polices, on IMF on WB is troubling dangerous and misguided . Brett leader’s Farrage’s support for more war in ME- in Syria shows the true colors of these psycho. They are worse than Kissinger who will throw some crumbs for the victims .But this guy wants it all. He is true misshaped creature who doesn’t fit into the intellectual world and is not fit for any leadership or moral role.

    Alt Right’s indirect embrace of the neocons invites the Trojan Horse Question is are they patsy? Are they sham? Are they desperately impulsively ready to do whatever their hateful emotions tell them to do?

  127. anon[718] • Disclaimer says:

    Taking Issue: Johann Hari Responds to Nick Cohen
    tk
    Johann Hari ▪ July 16, 2007

    [Johann Hari published “Choosing Sides” in Dissent‘s Summer 2007 Issue.

    [MORE]

    It’s disappointing he [Nick Cohen] doesn’t try to defend his positions or engage with any of my arguments, despite the fact I tried hard to fairly summarize his case. For example, he simply repeats his claim that the Iraq War marked a radical break with Henry Kissinger’s influence on U.S. foreign policy—and, to sustain this, he ignores the lengthy part of my review pointing out that Kissinger is now, according to Bob Woodward, “the most senior foreign policy adviser to [Bush] outside the administration.” This information doesn’t fit into his Manichean polemics so, rather than defend his case, he simply pretends it isn’t so.
    He asks, “What kind of left is it that shrugs as Iraqi trade unionists are butchered or Iranian feminists are persecuted?”

    Where we disagree is on how to defeat them. Cohen’s preferred tactic—enthusiastically supporting the Bush strategy—has actually enlarged and spread jihadism, as every major study of the phenomenon shows. One of my Iraqi friends is now living in a Basra neighborhood where Taliban-style militias beat women who walk onto the street without a veil and stone adulteresses. This is the consequence of the war Cohen still claims was necessary and worthwhile in his columns. The caveats he quotes in his response constitute literally a few hundred words out of tens of thousands backing Bush enthusiastically, as anybody who reads his book will see.

    I am puzzled that Cohen will not defend his own writing, instead denying much of it exists. For example, he denies ever arguing that the West was right to back Saddam in the 1980s. Here are his words from his recent book Pretty Straight Guys: “The world had little choice but to support Saddam’s unprovoked war on Iran. A victory for the Ayatollahs would have left the Iraqi, Kuwaiti and Saudi oilfields at Iran’s mercy.” If he wants to renounce this argument, that is welcome; but he cannot claim I invented it. Each of his claims about my “deception” has a similar clear quote disproving them. To give another example, he denies he has shown support for the more propagandistic claims of the neoconservatives. Yet he wrote in the Observer in January 2005, “In the long-run the only solution is for the global move towards democracy to get moving again. In these strange times, the only person who believes that this is possible or desirable is George W. Bush…[and he is] feared and hated by right-thinking people the world over for saying so.” And, again in the Observer: “Neoconservatives…[are] hated because of their espousal of causes the liberal-left had once owned but no longer had the moral self-confidence to defend.” And—in a fawning account of meeting Paul Wolfowitz in the same newspaper: “I was clearly in the presence of real power…I was in the presence of a politician committed to extending human freedom.” Yes, this is indeed “blind faith.”
    The list of odd misrepresentations goes on. Cohen writes, “For the record, I have written many pieces about civil liberties.” He is clearly implying to readers that he has written in support of civil liberties. Yet if readers go to—for example, this 2006 Guardian/Comment Is Free essay—they will find Cohen arguing that the British state should be deporting terror suspects to countries where they will almost certainly be tortured, because human rights are less important than “national interests.”

    I cannot understand why he now denies it; I assumed this was an uncontroversial point.
    In light of the horrific evidence about how the Iraq War has increased jihadism and the already vast misery of Iraqis,

    DISSENTMAGAZINE

    Nick Cohen is anti Brexit . He lampoons them He hates them But he doesn’t see how is warmongering has created the woes UK is facing or EU is facing.

    But see the deception- he knew nobody liked Kissinger .He used that hate to make people accept Biush because Bush also didn’t like him . But the leis are factually worming also made up by him. But he thought he would be able to sneak that in .
    He is a liar.Once he wrote that we call it islamic terrorism nevus its inspired by Islam.

    Its all about Benjamin tribe . His hatred for Islam or muslim shouldn’t be welcomed by Alt Right. Tomorrow , he would stab Alt Right by cozying up to the Islamists and he would deny his past attitude . He like his tribe likes wars both in the battle field and in local street where they don’t live .They just don’t like it in the intellectual domain and none at all ever happening in the Jewish enclaves .

  128. KenH says:

    Hundreds of Christians killed by Muslims in Nigeria but for some reason this isn’t news:
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/world-remains-silent-as-muslim-terrorists-kill-hundreds-of-christians-in-nigeria

    Guarantee if Christians were kidnapping and murdering Muslims anywhere in the world it would be a top news story, we’d hear endless screeching about “Christian intolerance” and the (((usual suspects))) would be demanding sanctions and regime change in the nation this was taking place. The white hating, masochistic commie pope would probably offer to wash the feet of every Muslim on earth as penance.

    So in the hierarchy of victims Muslims killed by a white non-Muslim rank much higher than Christians killed by Muslims. Some victims are just more equal than others in this world equalocracy of ours.

    • Agree: Charles_Martel, anon1
    • Replies: @anon
  129. anon[718] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    That millions of Oromo were wiped out in the decades immediately after their defeat by the Abyssinian Empire, many starving to death as their cattle and granaries were looted. The Abyssinian soldiers were not paid salaries and took their livelihood by being freely allowed to loot and pillage after victory on the battle field, guaranteed thanks to Italian supplied firepower.
    When the Abyssinian brigands were done Africa’s largest nation was reduced to beggary and bondage with their Oromo town of Finefine annexed and renamed Addis Ababa, capital of a Christian Abyssinia. —
    Oromo’s, over 40 million strong and Africa’s largest nationality, — Most of the population, mainly Muslim

    Menelek and later Haile Sellasie got their hands on Italian machine guns and artillery had used their legendary cavalry to sweep he biggest victims of the Ethiopian Empire were the Oromo peoples who until the Abyssinians of Mback all previous attempts to enslave them. And enslave them the Abyssinians did, for after gunning down their warriors on the battlefield, the Amhara ethnic minority empire went on a rampage against their new subjects, enslaving, murdering and massacring across Africa’s largest nation in a wave of terror and destruction unprecedented in African history, over-standing even the African slave trade in brutality and extermination in such a short period. It has been estimated

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/22/usas-soft-coup-in-ethiopia/

    European nation establishes empire,allows local minority Christian to rape kill and bulldoze and garb power . Allows that to be continued for 170 years .Then comes American in 2006 and allows more exploitation killing rapes . But on top of that asks Christian minority rulers to attack Somalia .

    • Replies: @KenH
  130. Over the decades, the left has completely and deliberately distorted the concept of personal responsibility beyond recognition. Aspects such as what it consists of, what it is associated with, who has or doesn’t have it, why they have it, direct versus indirect, assumed motives versus actions, actions versus speech, and on and on and on.

    What is especially egregious is that the consequences society puts in place to reward or punish personal responsibility have also been perverted, e.g., the justice system. It’s as if we just casually threw out jurisprudence that was fought for and painfully acquired over 500 years.

    The situation is getting worse, not better. It’s so deranged now, that it will all need to be razed to the ground and rebuilt from scratch. For that alone, a civil war is inevitable.

  131. @britishbrainsize1325ccsnicker

    NZ does not belong to the Maoris, it belongs to the Moriori’s who were completely annihilated by the Maoris in the 19th century. Therefore the Maoris should be made to feel endless guilt for the rest of their lives, and they and their progeny should be forced to pay out reparations for the next 500 years.

    You started this game, now how far back do you want to go? Who was there “first”? Who made “best” use of the land and resources? Which specific parties were 100% guilty 100% of the time, whereas who else was completely without sin?

    You are an adolescent who crawled out from under the NPC echo chamber. Until you can free yourself from the secular religious cult known as leftism, you will never have a mind of your own.

    Good luck with all that, chuck-0.

  132. Sbaker says:

    But Jonathan Freedland also wants “Islamophobia” to be silenced and he’s a Jew, not a Muslim. Like the Jewish journalist Bari Weiss in the United States, Freedland sees Jews and Muslims as “friends and political allies” against Western civilization. That’s why he uses the Christchurch massacre to attack Viktor Orbán, the Hungarian prime minister who is trying to defend Western civilization. But in his attack on Orbán, Freedland doesn’t mention one very obvious thing: there are no Muslims being massacred in Hungary.

    And no kaffirs are being massacred or gang-raped in Hungary either. This is because Hungary has refused to allow itself to be enriched by Islam. With no Muslims, it has none of the pathologies caused or provoked by Muslims. Viktor Orbán understands the truth: that Muslims don’t belong in the West and that Whites never voted for them to come here. Muslims have their own nations — fifty of them, in fact — and they need to return there as soon as possible.

    • Agree: anon1
    • Replies: @anon
  133. KenH says:
    @anon

    That millions of Oromo were wiped out in the decades immediately after their defeat by the Abyssinian Empire,

    Never heard of the Oromo people but what I could find states that up to 45% are Christian. I can’t find any evidence that “millions of Oromo were wiped out…..” but if that is true then a good portion of these millions must have been Christian, so the killing was indiscriminate and Muslims were not singled out for murder as you seem to be insinuating.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
  134. @KenH

    Way to go KenH.

    You have stated concisely what many of us are tired of articulating.

  135. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sbaker

    Spencer, Bannon,Sean Hannity, Judge Jeanine, Glen Beck, and Drudge – are some of the notorious polemics who have long been in the thralls to Jonathan Freedland ,Nick Cohen, Kristol, Kruthammer,Joe Liberman and people of similar DNA background.

    Hungary’s president is also one of the same polluted corrupted bought and paid Islamophobic.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
    , @anom
  136. @Rurik

    “reply 68 looks well considered and thought-out, I mostly agree with his sentiments…”

    Yeh, especially the part about writing “letters to the editor”- complaining to “the politicians”- or alternatively “running for office,” …is that you John Mcshame?

    Or my favorite “True White Preservationists

    ….” The ongoing struggle”

    All risible and cringy at the same time.

  137. Sbaker says:
    @anon

    Islamic pigs are unwelcome now and have been for centuries in civilized societies. Their exploitation of serial killing and mass murder techniques is a 3rd world turd floating in the bowl of civilized humanity. The latest love affair the virulent left has with the Somali sow while amusing and expected serves to alert the West that these creatures so desperate to escape the chit-holes they created, will do and say anything to extend their power to subjugate the infidels. Lying, theft of property, murder of the innocent and unarmed infidel is not going to come easy. Mark it down, you can’t fix stupid, but unusual alliances can thwart primitive beliefs.

    It is unsurprising that you are a Muslim, so of course, anyone that opposes such a primitive political culture is going to be corrupted. Maybe you are just islamophilic. Haha

  138. Sbaker says:
    @KenH

    KenH, he/she is a Muslim. There are dozens here, posting to this site, and thousands of them posting elsewhere.

    • Replies: @KenH
  139. Waitemata says:
    @peterAUS

    The first time I looked for Jordan Peterson’s book in the local library a couple of months ago there were 500 holds on 121 copies of ’12 Rules for Life.’ There are now 334 holds. His other book ‘Maps of Meaning’ now has 73 holds on 8 copies. Whitcoules. a local stationer and bookseller has just withdrawn Peterson’s books from sale even though Mein Kampf is on the shelves. Hilarious.
    Sometimes there are as many as 24 holds on books I want to read to which the reading public has been alerted. New Zealanders, living so far from everywhere else have always been voracious readers. This tendency has diminished with the now dominant internet and phone technology but it’s still reasonably strong. New Zealanders are usually reticent though and slow to voice opinions but the comments are running hot on blogs following the Christchurch attacks which will turn out to be, I think, a watershed and an awakening in this sleepy country.
    When I was young after the war I remember hearing adults talk about Douglas Reed probably in relation to his pre WWII books. They read books by Henry Ford and Orwell and knew about ‘The Protocols of Zion’ even if they didn’t understand what it was all about.
    We know there are plenty of Hobbits but we also are waking up to the identity of the Orcs.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  140. anom says:
    @anon

    The ignorance exhibited by you and the IQ of the person you are depending on to rescue you intellectually show the weak links the Zionist looks for .

  141. KenH says:
    @Sbaker

    KenH, he/she is a Muslim.

    Or a Jew, but I suspected as much. These trolls pop up when Muslims commit a terrorist act or in cases like this in an attempt to misdirect and shift the narrative to their advantage.

    I’d have more respect for them if they first admitted who and what they are but most don’t have the courage.

  142. peterAUS says:
    @Waitemata

    New Zealanders are usually reticent though and slow to voice opinions but the comments are running hot on blogs following the Christchurch attacks which will turn out to be, I think, a watershed and an awakening in this sleepy country.

    Hopefully.

    I guess the plan is to vote Labour out at the next elections.
    You sure that National, should they win in the first place, will change anything of substance?

    I am not.

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