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“Isolationists must not prevail in this new debate over foreign policy,” warns Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations. “The consequences of a lasting American retreat from the world would be dire.”

To make his case against the “Isolationist Temptation,” Haass creates a caricature, a cartoon, of America First patriots, then thunders that we cannot become “a giant gated community.”

Understandably, Haass is upset. For the CFR has lost the country.

Why? It colluded in the blunders that have bled and near bankrupted America and that cost this country its unrivaled global preeminence at the end of the Cold War.

No, it was not “isolationists” who failed America. None came near to power. The guilty parties are the CFR crowd and their neocon collaborators, and liberal interventionists who set off to play empire after the Cold War and create a New World Order with themselves as Masters of the Universe.

Consider just a few of the decisions taken in those years that most Americans wish we could take back.

After the Soviet Union withdrew the Red Army from Europe and split into 15 nations, and Russia held out its hand to us, we slapped it away and rolled NATO right up onto her front porch.

Enraged Russians turned to a man who would restore respect for their country. Did we think they would just sit there and take it?

How did bringing Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia into NATO make America stronger, safer and more secure? For it has surely moved us closer to a military clash with a nuclear power.

In 2014, with John McCain and U.S. diplomats cheering them on, mobs in Independence Square overthrew a pro-Russian government in Kiev that had been democratically elected and installed a pro-NATO regime.

Putin’s response: Secure Russia’s naval base at Sevastopol by retaking Crimea, and support pro-Russian Ukrainians in Luhansk and Donetsk who preferred secession to submission to U.S. puppets.

Fortunately, our interventionists failed to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. Had they succeeded, we almost surely would have been in a shooting war with Russia by now.

Would that have made us stronger, safer, more secure?

After the attack on 9/11, George W. Bush, with the nation and world behind him, took us into Afghanistan to eradicate the nest of al-Qaida killers.

After having annihilated some and scattered the rest, however, Bush decided to stick around and convert this wild land of Pashtuns, Hazaras, Tajiks and Uzbeks into another Iowa.

Fifteen years later, we are still there.

And the day we leave, the Taliban will return, undo all we have done, and butcher those who cooperated with the Americans.

If we had to do it over, would we have sent a U.S. army and civilian corps to make Afghanistan look more like us?

Bush then invaded Iraq, overthrew Saddam, purged the Baath Party, and disbanded the Iraqi army. Result: A ruined, sundered nation with a pro-Iranian regime in Baghdad, ISIS occupying Mosul, Kurds seceding, and endless U.S. involvement in this second-longest of American wars.

Most Americans now believe Iraq was a bloody trillion-dollar mistake, the consequences of which will be with us for decades.

With a rebel uprising against Syria’s Bashar al-Assad, the U.S. aided the rebels. Now, 400,000 Syrians are dead, half the country is uprooted, millions are in exile, and the Damascus regime, backed by Russia, Iran and Hezbollah, is holding on after five years.

Meanwhile, we cannot even decide whether we want Assad to survive or fall, since we do not know who rises when he falls.

ORDER IT NOW

Anyone still think it was a good idea to plunge into Syria in support of the rebels? Anyone still think it was a good idea to back Saudi Arabia in its war against the Houthi rebels in Yemen, which has decimated that country and threatens the survival of millions?

Anyone still think it was a good idea to attack Libya and take down Moammar Gadhafi, now that ISIS and other Islamists and rival regimes are fighting over the carcass of that tormented land?

“The Middle East is arguably the most salient example of what happens when the U.S. pulls back,” writes Haass.

To the CFR, the problem is not that we plunged headlong into this maelstrom of tyranny, tribalism and terrorism, but that we have tried to extricate ourselves.

Hints that America might leave the Middle East, says Haass, have “contributed greatly to instability in the region.”

So, must we stay indefinitely?

To the CFR, America’s role in the world is to corral Russia, defend Europe, contain China, isolate Iran, deter North Korea, and battle al-Qaida and ISIS wherever they may be, bleeding our country’s military.

Nor is that all. We are also to convert Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan into pro-Western preferably democratic countries, and embrace “free trade,” accepting the imported merchandise of all mankind, even if that means endless $800 billion trade deficits, bleeding our country’s economy.

Otherwise, you are just an isolationist.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Call the people at CFR ‘invasionists’.

    Btw, if they are so into human rights, why not invade Israel and West Bank to liberate the Palestinians who are still living under Occupation?

    Why not invade Saudi Arabia and liberate the women and homos who are oppressed by Western standards?

    And why didn’t US do anything to save the democratically elected government in Egypt? Why did US do nothing while the military regime retook power by killing thousands?

    We were told that NATO had to do something to save Libyan rebels from tyrant Gadaffi, but US was perfectly fine with Egyptian military taking control by mowing down the supporters of the democratically elected Islamist government.

    And then there is the business with Turkey. US has been interfering and messing up so many nations that the Turks are CONVINCED that US had a hand in the coup attempt. After all, US had a hand in the coup in Ukraine.

    It is what US does all over the world. And in Honduras too.

  2. Despite all the criticisms against him, I still find Pat Buchanan’s positions to make the most sense among all our pundits. I just wish that he was the GOP nominee instead of Trump.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  3. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Answer:Why does Donald Trump want to bomb Iran?

    • Replies: @Marcus
    , @JustJeff
  4. Rehmat says:
    @Priss Factor

    CFR would never suggest “liberation of Palestine occupied by European Jews”, because CFR president Dr. Richard Haass is himself a European Zionist Jew. CFR is the most powerful “war advocacy group” in United States. It has blessed almost every American war around the world especially in the Muslim world. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and hundreds of other White House operatives have been members of CFR.

    On January 17, 2012, Leslie Loeb, the Jewish president emeritus of the CFR fearing a new Jewish Holocaust in the Middle East on the horizon, wrote at The Daily Beast: “As before, we’re letting a bunch of ignorant, sloppy-thinking politicians and politicized foreign-policy experts draw ‘red line’ ultimatums. As before, we’re letting them quick-march us off to Iraq war.”

    https://rehmat1.com/2012/02/06/whither-the-war-on-iran-zioncons/

    • Replies: @Alden
  5. Dave B says:

    The biggest mistake that this country made in my lifetime – and there have been many – was not electing Pat Buchanan president when we had a chance.

    • Agree: MEH 0910, Bill
  6. KA says:

    In Split With Clinton, Sen. Kaine Sees No Legal Authority for New Libya War
    Posted By Jason Ditz On August 8, 2016 @ 6:39 pm In News |

    When the US attacked the Libyan city of Sirte last week, they did so without any explicit Congressional authorization. This was unsurprising, of course, as they never got Congressional authorization for the last Libya war either, nor for the ongoing ISIS wars in Syria and Libya.

    Sen. Tim Kaine (D – VA) tried and failed to get war authorizations passed before, and on Sunday was quick to warn that he doesn’t believe there is any legal authorization for this new war,

    His running-mate, Hillary Clinton,was quick to disagree with him public, insisting that she has no doubt that the 2001 authorization for the use of military force (AUMF) after 9/11 covers the Libya War, even though it only authorizes force against those involved in 9/11, which ISIS obviously was not. http://www.antiwar.com 8/9/16
    ——————

    Power and wealth do bestow people with a lot of privileges .One of them is dismissing what is obvious ,real,fact,moral ,and legal. Power makes sure that only those voices it allows ,gets heard ,only those discords are aired that are in essence fortifies the position of the power. This is why NYT reports some vague unknown unimportant differences between Pence and Trump but doesn’t report the fundamental differences between Clinton and Kane.

  7. TZ says:

    “The Middle East is arguably the most salient example of what happens when the U.S. pulls back,” writes Haass.

    That line jumped out… and I had to check it out. Of course it was (((Richard Haass))).

    • Replies: @SMK
    , @KA
  8. Luke Lea says: • Website

    Powerfully put. I’ll be linking to it in the months to come.

  9. No, it was not “isolationists” who failed America. None came near to power. The guilty parties are the CFR crowd and their neocon collaborators, and liberal interventionists who set off to play empire after the Cold War and create a New World Order with themselves as Masters of the Universe.

    You just can’t say Zionist can you Pat. Why is that?

    • LOL: Talha
  10. anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Who got us into these endless wars”?

    Jews.

    Btw, what is so wrong with being “”isolationist””? It doesn’t mean that America will not trade with the rest of the world. Or that Americans can not travel to or vacation abroad. It simply means that America will not launch an unprovoked 78 day bombing campaign against Serbia like in 1999. Or invade Iraq in 2003 under phony “wmd” charges. How come nobody calls Mexico or Brazil, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland etc., “isolationist”?

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @anon
  11. Johann says:

    Switzerland , a confederacy, is the freest country in the world and almost the most financially sound. For over five hundred years they remained neutral and took care of their own house. Swiss males are taught to defend their homeland and trained to be ready at a moment’s notice. Americans have not been without some military conflict since the day it was created. George Washington sent the newly minted American army into Pennsylvania to deal with farmers who did not want to the newly contrived whiskey tax. For the next two hundred years the red,white and blue took on more and more red from the blood it shed. Unfortunately Americans seem to lust for more and more dead, more and more vaunted military cemeteries in which to bury their boys who will never see manhood. Sad to say Pat but the American soul loves war and hates those who try to prevent it.

    • Replies: @anon
  12. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s not forget the part domestic racial politics played in starting these wars. The Republicans are just too gutless/filled with class contempt to stand up to the white-hating genocidal racism of the dominant political left domestically so they start overseas wars to take the minds of their overwhelmingly white constituents off of that fact. Most of their supporters are at least vaguely aware of this reality and are glad to have a face-saving issue so they don’t have to acknowledge their serfdom and impending extermination and can avoid confrontation with the powerful. (If you pretend you don’t know the local street gang is gang-raping your daughter on a regular basis, you don’t have to do anything about it.) This is the essence of Cuck.

  13. FLgeezer says:
    @WorkingClass

    >You just can’t say Zionist can you Pat. Why is that?

    Because he still likes to appear on TV occasionally , doesn’t want his website taken down, and wishes to get his column published?

    • Replies: @anon
  14. KenH says:

    Pat already answered this in large measure with his March 24th, 2003 article, “Whose War?” in The American Conservative. All he needs to do is update the information and re-title it “Whose Wars?” to account for Libya, Syria and now the new lukewarm war with Russia. And he should not speak so euphemistically about the people and groups responsible so as to maintain “respectability”.

    • Replies: @WorkingClass

  15. Hmmm… I wonder who the causes of these wars are…

  16. The “bloody trillion-dollar mistake” in Iraq will probably cost at least $5 trillion dollars when indirect costs such as interest on the war debt, disability payments and medical expenses through the year 2100 are added to the direct costs mentioned by Pat. Per the economist Joseph Stiglitz, who won a quasi-Nobel prize in economic sciences.

  17. alexander says:
    @anon

    Agreed !

    I think the word “isolationist” is wholly fraudulent in describing the vast majority of Americans in their completely rational reticence to go around bombing millions of people that never attacked us.

    In fact,its our stupid , stupid, Neocon wars of aggression that have, paradoxically, ISOLATED US, from engaging the world, in trade, tourism, and good will.

    Think about,….. how many Americans really want to visit ,as a tourist, the “Baghdad” we obliterated ?

    I don’t feel comfortable after what we did….do you ?

    Would you feel welcome there ?

    The Neocons f#cked it up for all of us .

    Or how about visiting Aleppo , Palmyra, or Beirut ? What about Crimea or the Ukraine ?

    I don’t even feel comfortable going to Cairo, today, for crying out loud….What a mess.

    Its these stupid nasty wars of choice that have , in fact, attenuated every Americans ability to engage the world with decency , normalcy and mutual respect.

    Its THEIR malevolence….. that has been grafted onto US …that is MOST isolating…and has bred so much HATE and resentment..

    They are a disaster, plain and simple , forcing us all into their contrived conflicts and compounding massive ill will and deep seated hatred for Americans ,wherever we go.

    No thank you.

    Nothing has Isolated us more than their never ending BOGUS wars.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Che Guava
  18. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    Because if he says it he will be called an anti-Semite. The false charge will sadly hurt him.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @anon
  19. denk says:

    who’r those unwaveringly elected these war mongers into office ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

  20. @KenH

    I looked it up. Thanks Ken. And my apologies to Mr. Buchanan. But still – the word “Zionism” is missing. Pat is critical of, yet still in love with the GOP. Could it be that he does not wish to offend Christian Zionists?

    • Replies: @Bill
    , @joe webb
  21. No, it was not “isolationists” who failed America. None came near to power. The guilty parties are the CFR crowd and their neocon collaborators, and liberal interventionists who set off to play empire after the Cold War and create a New World Order with themselves as Masters of the Universe.

    There it is, in a nutshell. Buchanan at his best.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @annamaria
  22. @Priss Factor

    “After all, US had a hand in the coup in Ukraine.”

    This is a Putinist lie on two counts. First, there was no coup in Ukraine. Yanukovich wouldn’t stand up and execute the will of the people, rather than sell Ukraine to Putin. Second, The US had no hand in the ouster of Yanukovich. He ran after his Berkut started killing people and he was going to held to account for his political violence. He ran right into the arms of his backer – Valdimir Putin.

  23. Jason Liu says:

    All the Zionism wouldn’t do anything if America wasn’t so susceptible to it. Have you ever asked yourselves why you cave in to the Zionists?

    From my perspective America suffers from a strange sense of moral superiority, leading to the belief that their way is the best, and therefore it is morally righteous to impose them on people elsewhere, even by force. Zionists capitalize on that belief by spinning their enemies as moral demons that need to be vanquished, which Americans left and right seem to lap up.

    So what if some country is run by an authoritarian dictatorship? That system may work better for them. Keep in mind that during most of the west’s development, women couldn’t vote and minorities were decidedly unequal. The liberal democracies that come afterwards are frail and mostly a product of privilege, not enlightenment. Let the Middle East figure out its own way.

  24. Randal says:
    @Priss Factor

    Btw, if they are so into human rights, why not

    Because the US interventionists are “into human rights” in exactly the same way as they are into “promoting democracy” – only when it serves their ulterior purposes.

  25. Randal says:
    @Quartermaster

    First, there was no coup in Ukraine. Yanukovich wouldn’t stand up and execute the will of the people

    Ah, this is the “will of the people” in the way it is routinely used by communists and other thugs everywhere. Which people? The ones you agree with, of course.

    Yanukovich was elected as President at the beginning of 2010, in elections generally recognised as reasonably free and fair, for a five year term. Those who didn’t like his policies had only to wait another year for the scheduled election at which they could have voted for another candidate, but they didn’t want to bother with that kind of actually democratic nonsense (too much risk that enough of “the people” might not agree with them), so they used mob violence to force him out.

    And if, as Yanukovich’s enemies claimed was going to happen, that election were to be rigged in his favour, then that would have been the time for legitimate protest, as opposed to the mob violence of 2013-14.

    The US had no hand in the ouster of Yanukovich

    LOL! Then you should be sharply questioning some of the expenses claims and budget expenditures submitted by State Dept goblins such as Victoria Nuland, who seem to have been spending plenty of your government’s tax funds there. And US voters could also legitimately ask why senior US lawmakers like Senators John McCain and Chris Murphy were actually in Kiev actively fomenting mob resistance to the democratically elected authorities, whilst having no effect whatsoever, according to you.

    But of course, that wasn’t “interfering in politics” in Ukraine like Putin hypothetically releasing embarrassing (but true) Democrat emails would be – the latter is of course an outrage against all decency, whereas the former is, according to you, “no hand”.

    You are a hypocrite and/or a liar, by the clear evidence of your comment here.

    • Replies: @alexander
  26. alexander says:
    @Randal

    Excellent synopsis, Randal.

    Really good analysis.

    Well done.

  27. @Jason Liu

    This morning Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken introduced Ambassador-at-Large David Saperstein as he released the 2015 Annual Report on International Religious Freedom. The report details the current state of religious freedom and tolerance around the world.

    Saperstein opened [ @ 13 min ] and closed his remarks by noting that in his tenure, the State Department had significantly increased its budget for monitoring religious freedom around the world so that he was able to visit many more places last year to ascertain that religious rights are protected; that the State Department’s Washington-based full-time staff devoted to monitoring religious freedom had increased to fifty, and every US embassy had persons specifically detailed to oversee religious freedom in that country.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?413811-1/state-department-releases-international-religious-freedom-report

    A good portion of Saperstein’s prepared remarks involved his office’s concern that various states in the world “punished blasphemy;” he emphasized that his office will continue to work to eliminate such practices and thereby ensure a peaceful, diverse world where all faiths are respected and may be expressed — so long as they are expressed peacefully.

    Asked about the protections for Christians as well as Muslim Arabs in Palestine, Saperstein said the conflict was an extended one and efforts would continue to be made to ensure the rights of all parties.

    if only the US State Department would train and hire professional diplomats, as Chas Freeman has urged,

    instead of ideological busybodies and shit-stirrers.

  28. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jason Liu

    I am all for letting the middle east figure out its own way. I am also all for letting them do it in their own countries and not in the west.

    Btw, the only significant minority group in the west historically was blacks in the USA, almost all of them in the ‘old south’.

    Also the Zionist lobby is wealthy, powerful and well organized and hurls charges of “racism” about freely. Most ordinary Americans are just too ill-informed and busy trying to earn a living to take much notice of events.

  29. Unfortunately, the people getting us into these endless wars are the ones profiting the most from the money made by the arms industry. They use the inspirational patriotic songs, flag waving, and “thank you for your service” tributes to dupe much of a gullible public into supporting these wars, and for volunteering to fight in them, while the mainstream media doesn’t report much on the profits made by those making these foreign policy decisions.

    The Bush family has a hundred year history of involvement in the arms business, take a look into their more recent involvement with the private equity, defense investment Carlyle Group as well as the involvement of many of their close associates with Carlyle.

    Now we have so many neocons backing Hillary who profit from endless war, and the cycle continues of top leaders in our military, including the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who as soon as they retire from the military go to work for the arms dealers whose arms contracts they supported while in the military.

    Then there are all the “campaign contributions” that arms dealers make to our politicians. Things are never going to change until people with these kinds of conflicts of interest aren’t allowed to make US foreign policy.

  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    Neocons and CFR crowd is more accurate. Cheney, Condy, Rummy, Powell, … none of them were that big on Zionism. Clinton I, Wesley Clark etc, whose main concern is Russia, are not primarily Zionist either.

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Chet Roman
  31. Barbara says: • Website

    http://www.activistpost.com/2016/08/cfr-promo-video-kinder-gentler-globalists.html
    read link before reading my comment below

    What does traub and the cfr demand the “ignorant masses” embrace? Corporate globalism, endless human sacrifice (invasions/occupations/”regime change”), looting, destruction of national sovereignty? Are they speaking of the “ignorant masses” or the ones that are outing them? Is it ignorant to be aware of what’s really going on, despite fascist media, and to do your duty as a citizen? This is from the unelected invisible government that has no credibility whatsoever and actually should be imprisoned for fraud by not only claiming to be our representatives, but acting as such. What is a high crime is to act as a puppet. We elected specific persons to be our government. They’re letting others, unelected, run it. Can there be any higher crimes? 5 countries destroyed, too many to count “regime” changed, millions slaughtered?

    Who got us into the endless wars? After 15 years of checking into it, I arrived at an opinion and posted at my blog. You won’t get the picture unless you read the links under the op.

  32. Art says:

    Council on Foreign Relations is a hardline Jew institution that works for Israel – end of story.

    Someone has to say the truth or nothing good will happen.

    Courage everyone!

  33. SMK says: • Website
    @TZ

    The Middle East is the most salient example of what happens when the U.S. bombs and invades and occupies Muslim nations -forever?

  34. Art says:
    @Anonymous

    Neocons and CFR crowd is more accurate. Cheney, Condy, Rummy, Powell, … none of them were that big on Zionism. Clinton I, Wesley Clark etc, whose main concern is Russia, are not primarily Zionist either.

    Please – that is just another big lie. It is “hide the Jew influence” over American government.

    All those people are kissy face with AIPAC – PERIOD!

    • Replies: @SMK
  35. SMK says: • Website
    @Art

    To quote Dennis Miller, the neoconservative/Zionist comedian, on Jay Leno; “If the Germans can do democracy, why not the Iraquis.” Yes, if “we” can turn Nazi Germany into post-war 1950s/1960s West Germany, why can’t we turn Afghanistan, Iraq, lybia, Iran, etc., into Iowa and post-war West Germany?

    • Replies: @Art
    , @Jacques Sheete
  36. Art says:
    @SMK

    To quote Dennis Miller, the neoconservative/Zionist comedian, on Jay Leno; “If the Germans can do democracy, why not the Iraquis.” Yes, if “we” can turn Nazi Germany into post-war 1950s/1960s West Germany, why can’t we turn Afghanistan, Iraq, lybia, Iran, etc., into Iowa and post-war West Germany?

    Maybe Mr. Miller is ready to kill 50,000,000 people again?

    Why not just leave them along – sell them NO arms – especially Israel.

    • Replies: @KA
  37. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    I don’t even feel comfortable going to Cairo, today, for crying out loud….What a mess.

    How about Baltimore?

  38. utu says:

    Does Buchanan think that anybody believed that the purpose of attacking Afghanistan or war with Iraq was to make these countries better for their citizens? Why he doesn’t say what were the real reasons for these interventions? For whom is he writing his articles? Children?

  39. Alden says:
    @Rehmat

    Is this Richard Hass related to the Hass Russell family that owns the jeans company Levi Strauss?

  40. Ben_C says:

    Why do people continue to bad mouth the “peaceful protesters” in the Ukraine?

    This guy was just obviously “protesting” for the dignities, freedoms, and the human rights:

  41. KA says:
    @Art

    It is a valid question. Why cant we? Because we never turned Germany or Japan into democracy They were democracies They became US vassal after WW2. Turning a country into a democracy overnight is like turning an infant into a man overnight . That doesn’t happen .It becomes Dennis Miller when that happens . Then babbles do not stop .

  42. KA says:
    @TZ

    Too much engagement to ME leads to corruption at home .

    ” Against Nuclear Iran (UANI) put out a statement complaining that the agreement was a “disappointment” and “provides disproportionate sanctions relief to Iran.” The group’s executive director, former U.S. diplomat Mark Wallace, —- .”

    That same group, at the end of July, turned up in a bit of intrigue: the New York Times revealed that the Justice Department had stepped in to a defamation suit against UANI to prevent the disclosure of documents revealing the group’s donors, among other information. UANI serves as a key pressure group for the enforcement of sanctions, frequently issuing reports and press releases about companies doing illicit business with Iran.” http://www.salon.com/2014/08/11/billionaires_sketchy_middle_east_gamble_meet_the_man_betting_on_war_with_iran/

    “UANI Principals Tied to Target of Money Laundering Investigation—oth Kaplan and Wallace (who also works for Kaplan’s investment firm, the Electrum Group), appear to be linked, both through philanthropy and business deals, to Jho Low. The Justice Department has implicated this Malaysian investor in the fraudulent siphoning of hundreds of millions of dollars from Malaysia’s economic development fund, 1Malaysia Development Berhad (1MDB). Low also stands accused of having “laundered more than $400 million of funds.” http://lobelog.com/uani-principals-tied-to-target-of-money-laundering-investigation/

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  43. @KA

    Sometimes I come to UR just for the comments since more often than not they contain worthwhile info while the articles usually are merely the sappy opinion of some big name doofus with a bad case of cacoethes scribendi.

    Your comment is a good example of something worthwhile to know about. Bravo!

    • Replies: @KA
  44. @SMK

    …why can’t we turn Afghanistan, Iraq, lybia, Iran, etc., into Iowa and post-war West Germany?

    Part of the reason is that there are neither commies nor Joey Stalins to turn the Eastern portions of the countries to. 😉

  45. annamaria says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Haass was born in Brooklyn, to Jewish parents, the son of Marcella (née Rosenthal) and Irving B. Haass.”

    What is it about Jewish emigres from Eastern Europe (see also Kagans’ clan and other Pletkas) that makes them being so easy, even exuberant, about making the rivers of blood and mounds of human flesh in the Middle East? Perhaps this is indeed a sign of self-selection of narrow-minded tribal thugs in small shtetles. It is worth to recall that the educated German Jews despised the “Asiatic” East European Jews. And it is worth to ponder on the horrors that the Russians suffered from the obnoxious and bloody Jewish thugs during and after “Socialist” revolution. The problem is, this kind of shtetl Jews are not familiar with the ideas of honor and dignity. –Actually, they are highly indisposed to these ideas. See the Moldovan felon in charge of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Israel: http://warisacrime.org/content/avigdor-lieberman-faces-new-charges
    See also a shtetl idiot Barbara Slavin that cannot stop herself from spouting belligerent Russophobic lies. She is another “expert” from the pitiful Atlantic Council of Eliot Higgins fame: http://redpilltimes.com/15-minutes-of-fame-over-elliot-higgins-aka-bellingcat-is-being-debunked-all-over-internet-by-real-experts-and-scientists/.

    More on the thoroughly dishonest Haass: http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/08/globalist-richard-haas-calls-for-nato.html

  46. JustJeff says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    I think it’s all about letting his voters save face. Your average American in a red state may not support interventionism anymore but saying war is wrong/bad still sounds like hippy talk to them. There’s also the fact that military families, who are mostly Reublican, may feel saying the Afghanistan and Iraq wars were wrong is like saying their fathers/brothers/sons died for nothing. So just as liberals praise diversity to make themselves feel better about living in gated whitopias, middle/working class Republicans still feel the need to spew militaristic rhetoric to make themselves feel better about America’s foreign policy mistakes.

    • Agree: Talha
    • Replies: @Outwest
  47. Rehmat says:

    “And the day we leave, the Taliban will return, undo all we have done, and butcher those who cooperated with the Americans.”

    Well, Pat Buchanan cannot expect Taliban to behave like American Christians, who usually let escape their traitors to Israel as they did in the aftermath of 9/11.

    It may come as a surprise to Buchanan to know that according several international sources, Taliban still rule nearly 80% of Afghanistan before Washington invaded a non-military Afghanistan in October 2001. But then, like Israel, American pride themselves for killing Muslims who have the least arms to defend themselves.

    On August 8, 2016, Grant F. Smith, director of the Washington-based Institute for Research: Middle East Policy (IRMEP) filed a lawsuit in a Federal Court in Washington DC challenging this aid to the Zionist entity under the law passed in the 1970s. Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs.

    According to the lawsuit, the United States has given Israel an estimated $234 billion in foreign aid since Congress passed the International Security Assistance and Arms Export Control Act of 1976. Discussing his Aug. 8 lawsuit in an interview, Smith said the proposed litigation has been 10 years in the making. Though Israel is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Smith noted that it is a known nuclear power and recipient of US aid. The US has had a long-standing policy of keeping mum on the existence of Israel’s nuclear weapons program, a poorly kept secret that successive US administrations since Gerald Ford have refused to publicly acknowledge.

    Smith’s lawsuit comes on the eve of a deal that would boost US military aid to the Zionist entity by between $1 billion and $2 billion per year over a decade. Israel already gets $3 billion a year in US military aid.

    In addition to the United States and Barack Obama, the lawsuit names as defendants John Kerry (Jewish), John Brennan (Zionist Christian), Ash Carter (Zionist Christian), and Jack Lew (Jewish), secretary of the Treasury.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/08/12/washingtons-military-aid-to-israel-in-court/

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  48. annamaria says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Here comes the “perfumed princess” Morell: https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/12/mike-morells-kill-russians-advice/
    What kind of selection has produced that imbecile on the top of the CIA hierarchy?

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  49. Outwest says:
    @JustJeff

    Military people aren’t stupid; they’re capable of seeing the truth. The pride in being patriotic and the anger in seeing that they are being taken advantage of are not incompatible.

    It would help if there a loud enough voice to point out the facts, i.e. gains vs losses in our military adventures.

    • Replies: @Wally
  50. Che Guava says:
    @Laugh Track

    Sadly, it seems that in his own opinion, too, he is too old.

    You may do well to reconsider support for the Donald. What’s the alternative? Syria destroyed at the least, WWIII at worst, and her godawful pant-suits, worn between rounds of muff-munching.

    Trump has an agile mind, Clinton frequently goes blank while reading from a teleprompter.

    Sure, Mr. Buchanan always makes sense (apart from dodges on Israel). I do not think he intends ever to stand for elected office again.

    Sure, even if Trump is elected, he will face a hostile Congress if he tries to do anything, but Dubya and ‘Barry’ set extensive precedents on the use of Executive Orders.

    …, and as many point out, Hillary is certain to aim to make your Supreme Court even more stupid than it already is, as soon as a vacancy arrives, likely very near given their very advanced ages.

    Funny how ‘persecuted’ Jews run the thing now. Sotomayer is cagey on that, to me, it seems obvious from the name.

    • Replies: @anon
  51. Does Trump have the courage to speak as clearly as Buchanan? If this is a foreign policy election, with a choice between a missionary Wilsonian and a cold blooded American nationalist (in other words, choose peace or war) , a war weary people will choose peace. We’re friends of liberty everywhere, but the vindicator and champion only of our own.

  52. Che Guava says:
    @Rehmat

    Rehmat,

    You can at least honour Mr. Buchanan as a man of deep faith, even if antithetical to yours, his near-traditionalist Catholicism was much used against him in politics.

    Also should respect your wiser elders and betters, he is both.

    You just write very amateur propaganda, sure, with the occasional grain of truth, but also a generous dose of pure bullshit.

  53. Wally says: • Website
    @Outwest

    These “military people” are welfare recipients, simple as that. Most never even get close to any combat situations. Those VOLUNTEERS that do see combat against a primitive opposing force resisting US / Zionist occupation then whine & mope around about being ‘ignored’ and suffering from faked PTSD for more money and attention, of course. Pathetic.

    The money involved by “supporting our troops” is vast, hence all the rationales for our military adventures for the interests of “that shitty little country”.
    .

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  54. Alden says:

    I agree that the military is like any government job, just a big alternative to welfare affirmative action organization like every other government job
    Black women admirals, all promotions given to minority women and dangerous combat jobs the only slots for White American men.

  55. DaveE says:

    “The guilty parties are the CFR crowd and their neocon collaborators, and liberal interventionists…”

    Wouldn’t it just be a lot simpler to call them by their rightful name, the Jews?

    I would think you guys would be getting tired of dancing in circles, just to avoid calling a spade a spade.

    (I realize some of these clowns don’t even realize they’re Jews, some even think they’re “Christian”, but still, the whole ideology is Old Testament / Torah to the bone.)

  56. @Anonymous

    They are the “useful idiots” of the Zionists Kosher Nostra, a phrase generally attributed to Lenin but with little actual evidence.

  57. Durruti says:
    @WorkingClass

    The Socratic Question of the day.

    “You just can’t say Zionist can you Pat. Why is that?”

  58. Bill says:
    @Jason Liu

    That’s not really it. The US was founded in important part by a mess of non-conformist English Protestants. Their history is tangled, but that movement got its start in the Dutch Republic, whence it came to the East part of England and then the whole. When they were kicked out of England for constantly fomenting violence, they came to the US. They dominated the North of the US. The South was more Anglican. But, as you know, the North won, and US culture generally is heavily influenced by the non-conformists and their intellectual descendants.

    The craziness and comical self-righteousness you rightly identify comes from these people. However, it is not “susceptible” to Zionism. It has been philo-semitic and Zionist (Zionist in a crazy Dispensationalist sort of way—though both Zionist and Dispensationalist are anachronistic terms since the origins of the non-conformist movement predate what we today call Zionism and Dispensationalism) from the outset.

  59. Bill says:
    @WorkingClass

    He’s playing an inside game. The price of staying inside is to avoid “blaspheming” the insiders’ idols. You could argue that the inside game with respect to the GOP is a losing game, but I guess Pat does not agree.

  60. @annamaria

    Thanks for that!

    It reminds me of the monstrous creep, Ilya Ehrenburgh whose sick schtick was promoting the bloody murder of Germans.

    In one leaflet entitled “Kill,” [Ilya] Ehrenburg incited the simple Russian soldier to treat the Germans as subhuman. The final paragraph concludes:

    “The Germans are not human beings. From now on, the word ‘German’ is the most horrible curse. From now on, the word ‘German’ strikes us to the quick. We have nothing to discuss. We will not get excited. We will kill. If you have not killed at least one German a day, you have wasted that day … If you cannot kill a German with a bullet, then kill him with your bayonet. If your part of the front is quiet and there is no fighting, then kill a German in the meantime … If you have already killed a German, then kill another one – there is nothing more amusing to us than a heap of German corpses. Don’t count the days, don’t count the kilometers. Count only one thing: the number of Germans you have killed. Kill the Germans! … – Kill the Germans! Kill!”

    And in another leaflet: “The Germans must be killed. One must kill them … Do you feel sick? Do you feel a nightmare in your breast? … Kill a German! If you are a righteous an conscientious man – kill a German! … Kill!”

    This is typical of the steady diet of pathological hate fed to millions of Soviet troops by this Jew, safely ensconced far from the front.

    http://rense.com/general75/ehr.htm

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  61. annamaria says:
    @Quartermaster

    “…there was no coup in Ukraine…”
    That would be a great line in your Kaganat of Ukrainian Nulandistan, but it does not have a chance on the UnzReview. According to the Russophobes’ logic, Putin himself arranged the US takeover of Ukraine, including the arrangement of Nuland-Kagan’ faithful cookie trip to Kiev. Ukraine is infested with neo-Nazis and banderistas and it is “scheduled” by the US State Dept for the economic free fall and civil war… See your chosen Yatz, Poroshenko, Groysman, Kolomojsky and such. –– Do you really believe that any of them care about Ukraine and Ukrainians?
    “…there was no coup in Ukraine…” Is this just naiveté?
    Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

    [MORE]

    China 1949 to early 1960s
    Albania 1949-53
    East Germany 1950s
    Iran 1953 *
    Guatemala 1954 *
    Costa Rica mid-1950s
    Syria 1956-7
    Egypt 1957
    Indonesia 1957-8
    British Guiana 1953-64 *
    Iraq 1963 *
    North Vietnam 1945-73
    Cambodia 1955-70 *
    Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
    Ecuador 1960-63 *
    Congo 1960 *
    France 1965
    Brazil 1962-64 *
    Dominican Republic 1963 *
    Cuba 1959 to present
    Bolivia 1964 *
    Indonesia 1965 *
    Ghana 1966 *
    Chile 1964-73 *
    Greece 1967 *
    Costa Rica 1970-71
    Bolivia 1971 *
    Australia 1973-75 *
    Angola 1975, 1980s
    Zaire 1975
    Portugal 1974-76 *
    Jamaica 1976-80 *
    Seychelles 1979-81
    Chad 1981-82 *
    Grenada 1983 *
    South Yemen 1982-84
    Suriname 1982-84
    Fiji 1987 *
    Libya 1980s
    Nicaragua 1981-90 *
    Panama 1989 *
    Bulgaria 1990 *
    Albania 1991 *
    Iraq 1991
    Afghanistan 1980s *
    Somalia 1993
    Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
    Ecuador 2000 *
    Afghanistan 2001 *
    Venezuela 2002 *
    Iraq 2003 *
    Haiti 2004 *
    Somalia 2007 to present
    Libya 2011*
    Syria 2012

  62. we thought after 2 world wars, our domination was ensured. than korean war happened. our war machine was not in gear. so japan had to step in. it saved and restarted jap’s economy. after that war, MIC was 100% in full gear at all times. hasn’t stop since.

  63. Incitatus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    Perhaps you can compare (with dates) Ehrenburgh’s work (I’m unfamiliar with him) with the 6 Juni 1941 Kommissarbefehl (essentially an open license to kill ‘untrermenschen’) active in the German invasion 22 Juni 1941. Did Ehrenburgh react to a death sentence Nazi invaders had previously issued for him (and others like him)? Rence.com omits any dates (what a surprise).

    Naturally the Nazi starvation of ±3,500,000 Soviet POWs 1941-42 need not concern you.

    btw shouldn’t ‘Jacues’ be spelled ‘Jacques’?

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  64. Olorin says:
    @Jason Liu

    All the Zionism wouldn’t do anything if America wasn’t so susceptible to it. Have you ever asked yourselves why you cave in to the Zionists?

    Because as any Christian can tell you with scriptural quotes and much emotion, Yahweh will do bad things to anybody who doesn’t support Israel.

    And he sealed that deal by using a pigeon (at least according to Renaissance Catholic painters) to put his Jewish son inside a Jewish virgin. That Jewish Rabbi is the head of the Christian church…but somehow that church isn’t Jewish.

    I don’t mean to be disrespectful, or arch. I’m serious. Too many Americans of Northern European descent are brain-addled by the Mediterranean/Near Eastern/Arabian/African[Egyptian] syncretism called “Judaeo Christianity.” Which is really Judaism washed through Rome washed through Germany.

    Of course I was raised outside of all that. Not sure how my family kept the old stories, but they did. I could never figure out how “Judaeo Christianity” was anything other than Judaism. But then the Catholics who schooled me always said I was a sinful, heretical heathen anytime I asked such questions. I was supposed to keep faith with strangers and their imported tales. Not my own people and their lived ones.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
    , @Kyle
  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    In other words he is a coward.

    If he isn’t willing to go all the way he should shut up and go home.

  66. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    How come nobody calls Mexico or Brazil, Canada, Switzerland, Ireland

    none of them have the capability to project their military half way across the globe in simultaneous conflicts .

    • Replies: @anon
  67. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann

    The Swiss are fantastic at banking and organizing . Unfortunately they cannot master more rudimentary skills such as having children. They have a birth rate of 1.5 children per woman. Nowhere near replacement rate. They are importing more muslims as we speak and muslims are currently 7% of the population .

    Something tells me the Swiss are nothing to emulate and the Swiss as we know them will not be around much longer.

    • Replies: @anon
  68. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @FLgeezer

    >You just can’t say Zionist can you Pat. Why is that?

    Because he still likes to appear on TV occasionally , doesn’t want his website taken down, and wishes to get his column published?

    He has said much worse in regards to jews so why would he be afraid to say Zionism ?
    A few examples :
    Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka in a column for The New York Post in 1990.

    Buchanan once argued Treblinka “was not a death camp but a transit camp used as a ‘pass-through point’ for prisoners”.

    Of course Buchanan is a coward in the end : When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan did not reply.

  69. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    He has been called an anti semite many times already .
    Here is an example from William Buckley :

    In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism among conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: “I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism.”[21][22]

  70. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:
    @annamaria

    There used to be the putsch.

    Now we have the chutzch, the chutzpah putsch.

    Ukraine underwent the Chutzch.

  71. @Wally

    Says a guy who wouldn’t go to Vietnam…

  72. Solemnity says:
    @Priss Factor

    Much of the blame for foreign wars should be placed on the Jewish American lobby which wants the US to fight Israel’s wars and to hate hate hate all Muslims.

    It is truly amazing that Christian Americans are so afraid of Jewish Americans that they let the latter have their way.

    You can’t even criticize Jewish Americans in the mainstream media.

    It’s Orwellian.

    We are all to blame for this disgraceful, unmanly state of affairs.

    America is not really America. It’s a Jewish satellite.

    I am very sorry to say that, and I don’t mean to smear Jewish Americans, but it’s true, and we all know it.

    • Replies: @anon
  73. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Just because you have the capability to do something, doesn’t mean it is a good idea to do it.

  74. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I would not say they are “importing” Muslims. Muslims may very well be trying to worm their way into Switzerland, as coloreds from the third world try to worm their way into all white, western countries. But your statement carries the implication the Swiss are willfully doing this to themselves.

  75. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Solemnity

    Much of the blame for foreign wars should be placed on the Jewish American lobby which wants the US to fight Israel’s wars

    What wars has the USA fought for Israel ?
    Israel alone fought Egypt , Syria , Jordan and Iraq in 1948 for independence and won.
    Israel alone fought Egypt ,Syria and Jordan in 1967 and won.
    Israel alone fought Egypt and Syria in 1973 and won.

    America has recently fought Afghanistan which is landlocked , 3,500 KM distance from Israel and separated by 3 countries in between and no way to project their military beyond their borders . What type of threat can they pose to Israel and why would Israel care to have a war with them ?

    America has recently fought Iraq. Israel bombed and destroyed Iraq’s nuclear reactor in Osirak , killed a dozen Iraqi soldiers and a French scientist and faced zero response from Iraq and zero repercussions . the last time Iraq attacked Israel was in the gulf war 1991 , firing 40 scud missiles and killing 1 person . Iraq is about 800 km from Israel with Jordan in between and no way to project their military beyond their borders . Why would Israel need someone else to fight Iraq for them ?

    and to hate hate hate all Muslims.

    Does Israel really need to give Americans more reasons to hate muslims ?
    Starting with the barbary pirates and continuing I think to the first WTC bombing , 911 , the embassy bombings in africa , the bombing of the USS Cole , the pulse nightclub massacre , the san bernardino massacre , the fort hood massacre , muslims give enough reasons to hate them on their own.

    It is truly amazing that Christian Americans are so afraid of Jewish Americans that they let the latter have their way.

    I have never heard or seen Christian Americans professing to be afraid of Jews. Jews don’t condemn Christians to death like muslims do in Iraq and Syria , Jews don’t raid Christian villages in Iraq and steal the girls for sex slavery. Muslims do that. In the Muslim republics of Iran ,Pakistan , Sudan , Mauritania, Somalia ,Afghanistan converting from Islam to Christianity is punishable by death. Maybe Christians like Jews and dislike Muslims for these reasons.

    • Replies: @alexander
    , @annamaria
    , @anon
  76. helena says:

    Israel alone fought Egypt and Syria in 1973 and won. ”

    And at least some young men from Britain (presumably with dual nationality).

  77. @Incitatus

    Did Ehrenburgh react to a death sentence Nazi invaders had previously issued for him (and others like him)? Rence.com omits any dates (what a surprise).

    I think that the Nazis were reacting to the death sentences that Ehrenburg and its ilk had previously issued for them (and other goyim the world over). You omit any dates prior to 1941-42(what a surprise). FYI history did not begin in the 1940s.

    In that regard, you may want to brush up on the goals on the Comintern, the policies of Lenin and Stalin and their money bag supporters, and what was going on in Europe during the 20s and 30s and pay particular attention to the Holodomor and the various purges.

    You mentioned “untermenschen.” Can you compare and contrast that concept with the much older concept of “goyim?” Here’s little something to help stimulate any creative juices you may have.:

    “Hate the Gentile!” Israel’s Racist Rabbis, by Jonathan Cook

    ”Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.”According to Yosef, death has “no dominion” over non-Jews in Israel.

    http://wideawakegentile.wordpress.com/2014/03/26/former-chief-rabbi-of-israel-ovadia-yosef-goyim-are-donkeys-put-on-earth-to-serve-jews/

    Naturally the Nazi starvation of ±3,500,000 Soviet POWs 1941-42 need not concern you.

    Again you need not be concerned about the various assassinations, riots, mass murders, etc., perpetrated by the commies long before 1941-42 and you needn’t concern yourself about the hunger of Germans because of the war, which, FYI, was unnecessary according to none other than Churchill itself. You may want to read Mr. Buchanan’s excellent book on that subject, “Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War.”

    btw shouldn’t ‘Jacues’ be spelled ‘Jacques’?

    At one time it was, but your mention of it is as irrelevant as it is petty. Anyway it’s about time you became aware that it’s pretty common for folks to vary things a little. Are you aware that yer buddies such as Lenin and Trotsky also had some variant spellings of their handles?

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  78. alexander says:
    @anon

    Anon, you must be living in a cave.

    The ENTIRE architecture of our fabricated “War on Terror” was designed by the Neocons, for Israel, in order to Goad Americans into pulverizing Israels despised “arc of nations”enemies known as the “Shia Crescent” (comprising Lebanon, Syria,Iraq and Iran) as well as all other countries deemed “antagonistic” to Israel’s overarching desire to exterminate the state of Palestine and KEEP the Golan Heights.

    Not ONE of these countries EVER attacked the US, …NOR did they pose even a remote threat to the US …..NOR were ANY responsible for 9-11, …….yet ALL have been eviscerated, in one form or another, since 2001.

    The reason WHY ?….. Israels certainty that its ongoing extermination of Palestine would eventually lead to a collective military response from these nations.

    So it had to Deceive the US into “pre-emptive war” to neutralize the potential hurting power of these Shia Crescent nations, marking for it an unobstructed path toward a Greater Israel , the dissolution of Palestine and the annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights.

    The absolute clarity of this belligerence is betrayed , most convincingly, by the high -five-ing dancing Israelis caught filming and celebrating the 9-11 attacks on our WTC.

    Their jubilation was evidence that Israels (hidden) plan and desire for ” war, conquest and domination” had begun.

    This Neocon “master plan” was devised and put in place years before 9-11,(Just a cursory reading of the “clean break strategy,1996” betrays Israels belligerent intentions.)

    It makes clear Israels decision to REJECT PEACE , reject ALL the international mandates required of it….and KEEP, forever, much of the Palestinian territories and the Golan Heights.

    This was (and is) a true declaration of war..Anon… but due to the compliance of a wholly subservient US MEDIA , Israels intentions were (and still are)completely hidden from all Americans. This subterfuge and deception persists through to this day.

    This is also precisely why Israel has NO PEACE PLAN and has never created one.

    Lets talk about “alleged Muslim terrorism” for a moment.

    FROM 1960 to 2000 the United States spent less than a FRACTION fighting the Neocons “War on Terror” and there were almost NO MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACKS on our soil… Ever !

    Why not , anon ?

    Yet we have dutifully followed the OBSCENELY EXPENSIVE ADVICE of our Neocon Stewards and spent TENS OF TRILLIONS of US taxpayer dollars in how the Neocons teach us to STOP TERROR….and there have been MORE terror attacks attributed to Muslims in the past SIX MONTHS than in the ENTIRE FORTY YEARS BEFORE 9-11.

    How do you explain this, Anon?

    If we spent next to nothing fighting terror for the first 40 years before 9-11, and there were hardly any ‘terror events”…shouldn’t our spending of TENS of TRILLIONS to eradicate it, yield LESS THAN ZERO terror attacks…..not QUINTUPLE the amount ?

    Shouldn’t it ?

    There is something WRONG with this picture, wouldn’t you say ?

    What is a proper analogy ?

    A proper analogy is the US taxpayer coughing up OBSCENE AMOUNTS OF MONEY to our EXPERT NEOCON PLUMBERS to FIX all the Leaky pipes in our House, and the more we PAY THEM…….. the MORE LEAKY PIPES THERE ARE !

    My advice, if the US truly values its solvency and peace of mind as a Nation…..Clean house and throw all these Neocon (terror) plumbers….. OUT !

    They have been pocketing the “gravy” from their bogus Muslim terror “gravy train” for way too long, and our fine nation is an unprecedented 21 trillion in debt from (not doing more than) sheepishly following along.

    • Replies: @anon
  79. Incitatus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    I take it that you don’t know the Ehrenburgh dates. Fair enough.

    “…pay particular attention to the Holodomor…”

    Timothy Snyder covers it quite well in ‘Bloodlands’ and ‘Black Earth.’ Are there other sources you recommend?

    “…Nazis were reacting to the death sentences that Ehrenburg and its ilk had previously issued for them (and other goyim the world over). You omit any dates prior to 1941-42 (what a surprise). FYI history did not begin in the 1940s.”

    Let’s take 23 August 1939. Joachim von Ribbentrop signs the Deutsch-sowjetischer Nichtangriffspakt. Did he know he was under a Soviet death sentence, as you assert? Did Adolf? If so, why did they sign the pact and partner with Stalin in dismembering Poland?

    Speaking of death sentences, how about Aktion T4 – Adolf’s “mercy death” program for the Volk 1939-41? Sort of a Nazi killing on the layaway plan. Only 70,000± were killed before prelates blew the secret and forced it to be shut down, but you have to give Adolf credit for trying.

    “…you needn’t concern yourself about the hunger of Germans because of the war…”

    You mean the war Germans themselves launched? If they weren’t concerned, why should I be?

    I read ‘’Unnecessary War’ in 2008 and enjoyed it. Here’s part of my review:

    “If there’s a glaring omission in this work, it’s the lack of any mention or discussion of the 5 Nov 1937 Hoßbach Memorandum, which records Hitler’s clear intent to launch an aggressive war (it hung many of the Nüremberg defendants in 1945).”

    Why do you suppose Pat left it out?

    “…it’s about time you become aware that’s pretty common for folks to vary things a little.”

    People misspell things all the time – rarely their own name.

    • Replies: @Jacques Sheete
  80. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    wow you are really cucking hard for islam . like i said israel already defeated in war most of the countries you mention. the exception being Iran , 1000+km away and separated by 2 countries.

    • Replies: @alexander
  81. annamaria says:
    @anon

    “9/11” – Seriously? “They hate us for our freedoms,” anon? Here are some abbreviations for you to look at — AIPAC, PNAC, ADL.
    Next you should learn about Yinon plan, beginning with the history of the Golan Heights. Theodore Herzl, “…the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” Synopsis of Yinon plan: “To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states.” http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815 The seven countries mentioned by Gen. Clark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
    What the “democracy-loving” Americans are doing in Syria? – Supporting “moderate” jihadis of Al Qaida and ISIS? After “9/11” ? And how come that Israel had been treating ISIS fighters at Israeli hospitals while murdering Palestinian kids in cool blood? Seems that ISIS is a valuable tool for Israelis (see Yinon plan). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315347/Watch-heart-pounding-moment-Israeli-commandos-save-Islamic-militants-Syrian-warzone-risking-lives-sworn-enemies.html
    What are the names of the US/EU main propagandists of the Middle Eastern wars? From your post one can get an impression that “muslims” have invaded and destroyed Iraq and Libya, and Syria. What ethnic group has been having the US Congress on payroll? Look at the pics — this is treason. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/12/congress-test-of-allegiance-us-or-israel/
    http://nyassemblyspeakersheldonsilveraccused.blogspot.com/2014/09/us-congress-controlled-by-aipac.html http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2011/05/israel-controls-america-how-criminal.html
    Why should Americans like this scoundrel from a foreign country (that sucks money from the US taxpayers), which is demonstrating his might over the US government?
    By the way, of what ethnicity is this woman fraternizing with Ukrainian neo-Nazis? http://www.infowars.com/us-backed-neo-nazi-party-given-key-roles-in-ukrainian-government/
    To make your search easier, here is an article on the Kagans clan: https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/20/a-family-business-of-perpetual-war/
    ADL is happy?

  82. alexander says:
    @anon

    Cucking for Islam ?

    What a total joke.

    Please, spare me the fraud,….Do your homework, read up…and get back to me.

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @anon
  83. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    coming from someone who cites as evidence , anonymous anecdotes about people high fiving as proof of israel orchestrating 911, ill have to conclude that you are the joke . class dismissed.

    • Replies: @alexander
  84. anon • Disclaimer says:

    here is palestinians dancing and celebrating 911 though.

    • Replies: @alexander
  85. joe webb says:
    @WorkingClass

    well, let us say, the word jew is missing.

    I would like to see an analysis of CFR, who they are , their history, their jews, etc.

    Buchanan has served his people and country honorably, steadfastly, and so on. Whatever his reticence, it is in the service of his race, which if you read his books, is clearly Race and nothing else.

    Another generation has come along which can push the margin a bit more. Trump will carry on along with his plausible deniability possible cuz of his kids.

    Joe Webb

  86. alexander says:
    @anon

    Is that even what I wrote ?

    Please.

    But if my contentions are wrong…why has Israel NEVER furnished the world with a Peace Plan ?

    Why doesn’t it EVEN have one ?

    If it does , and you can furnish it for me , I would be most delighted to read it.

    Until that time, lets let the facts, not the phony Neocon fraud , foisted on us ALL , dictate our Nations actions.

  87. alexander says:
    @anon

    How apropos.

    This is EXACTLY the same thing the ISRAELI’s ,arrested on 9-11, told our Police officers…..its the “Palestinians” who are you enemy….

    And here you are….. doing it again……like a Falsifying Factotum of Neocon Fakery.

    Can’t you ever tell the truth ?

    And , may I add, its the EXACT same “terror fraud structure” used to falsely attribute the ANTHRAX attacks to Saddam, and goad us into war with Iraq.

    The EXACT same “terror fraud” structure.

    Is there any reason, given the plethora of “proven fraud” foisted on my country to push us into never ending wars against countries that never attacked us, why I should believe you ?

    You have lost nearly ALL credibility, Anon.

    What else can I say ?

    • Replies: @anon
  88. annamaria says:

    More on the State Dept. romance with ISIS and eager US presstitutes:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/12/rigging-the-coverage-of-syria/
    “… as soon as the partial ceasefire agreement took effect on Feb. 27 [in Syria], Russia released a map that designated “green zones” where its air forces would not strike. The green zones, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, corresponded with Syrian opposition groups that had signed on to the ceasefire. Furthermore, Russia stopped bombing the Nusra-controlled areas of northwest Syria, instead focusing on ISIS targets, as Pentagon spokesperson Jeff Davis confirmed on March 14.
    But instead of separating themselves from Nusra Front, the U.S.-supported armed opposition joined with Nusra and its jihadist allies in a major offensive aimed at destroying the ceasefire.”
    The Nusra-led offensive was a decisive violation of the ceasefire, which effectively frustrated the intention of isolating the jihadists. It led to continued high levels of fighting in the three areas where it had taken place, and Russian planes returned to Nusra Front-controlled territory for the first time in nearly six weeks. Yet after the first reports on the offensive, its very existence vanished from media coverage of Syria.”

  89. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    i posted video proof of palestinians celebrating 911 on camera , giving out sweets , a man proclaiming osama bin laden gave a sweet gift today and dozens of allah akbars .

    show me proof of israelis dancing and high fiving. you cant lol.

    • Replies: @alexander
  90. annamaria says:

    More on the US government corroboration with ISIS:
    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160813/1044235310/rebels-aleppo-foreign-aid.html
    “The rebels’ recent breakthrough in the Aleppo siege was done with cash and supplies being ferried in for weeks from its regional backers, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar, with the US turning a blind eye to the activities in order to pile pressure on Russia and Iran, according to the revelations of the Financial Times. The British newspaper spoke to activists and rebels in Syria who said that “opposition forces were replenished with new weapons, cash and other supplies before and during the fighting.”
    The US Israel-firsters in high places know that Israel wants the Golan Heights by any means.
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.545661
    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/05/clinton-pushed-israel/

  91. @Incitatus

    Let’s take 23 August 1939. Joachim von Ribbentrop signs the Deutsch-sowjetischer Nichtangriffspakt. Did he know he was under a Soviet death sentence, as you assert? Did Adolf? If so, why did they sign the pact and partner with Stalin in dismembering Poland?

    How could they not? You don’t know much about the Comintern, do you?

    As for the Hitler-Stalin pact, why do you think they did that, and why do you think I’d spend the time explaining it to you here, especially when you seem more interested in snark than anything else?

    BTW, I think you misspelled your own name. The correct version would be Podex Equi. 🙂

    Have a nice day.

    • Replies: @Incitatus
  92. Che Guava says:
    @alexander

    ‘decency , normalcy and mutual respect.’

    Not qualities commonly displayed by ‘murricans overseas.

    Ironically (or not), some of the non-officer military do display the qualities you cite, others are purely criminals.

    The officers may as well be living on another planet, the U.S. empire.

    • Replies: @alexander
  93. @Olorin

    The “Judeo” you speak of was syncretized with the Babylonian Talmud by the time of Christ-something He railed against. “You make the Scriptures of no account- by your traditions of men.”

    The Catholic church -that attempted to brainwash you- is a sycretization of the paganism of Imperial Rome [ One God. One Empire. One Religion.] and the 1st and 2nd century church.

    Scriptures warn against this:

    What concord does Christ have with Belial?

  94. alexander says:
    @anon

    Please Anon,

    This video has as much integrity as your Neocon’s ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY there were IMMINENT THREAT WMD’s in Iraq.

    Which, by the way, has cost US taxpayers over 3 TRILLION dollars….When are you folks gonna WRITE US A CHECK to cover our losses ?…….

    There are 320 million angry and defrauded Americans waiting for it !

    And , on the other point….

    Haven’t we ALL gone over the ‘Dancing Israeli” documentation enough for you to know its true ? Hasn’t it been so fleshed out, by now, that to seek to discredit it , at this late date, seems somewhat backward ?

    Once again, because our devout sycophantic MEDIA has chosen to suppress it, just like it has chosen to suppress ALL of Israels true intentions (or belligerent actions)…Namely …to exterminate the state of Palestine, for all time, and steal the Golan too…..

    Don’t blame me.

    And if what I say is not ALL TRUE, then why has Israel NOT returned the land that belongs to these people(as recognized by the ENTIRE KNOWN WORLD)…..

    It has had OVER 40 years to do so ?

    Hmmm………Maybe ,despite your bogus assurances to the contrary……IT WANTS TO KEEP IT ?….and take it ALL ?

    And just maybe, Anon, contrary to your bogus assurances….the REAL REASON Israel has no “Peace Plan” is because,.it …..doesn’t……. really …….WANT ………PEACE ?

    And maybe, just maybe, our entire “War on Terror” was the biggest bunch of fraud foisted on every single taxpaying American, to the tune of 21 TRILLION DOLLARS, designed around Israels (oh so secret)belligerent desires to TAKE ALL THE LAND that once was Palestine and have our country DECIMATE every single middle eastern state who might resist this ?

    And now Russia ,TOO, since it seems to be the one super power standing in the way of Israel’s covert and coerced disintegration of Syria, (under the bogus ruse of “regime change”), all designed to legitimize Israels annexation of the GOLAN by altering Syria’s territorial integrity through CIVIL WAR ?

    If its not the case, Anon, then show me…., show us ALL,….. Israels bona-fide “Peace Plan”.

    The proof is in the pudding, ….so where is it ?

    There is nothing I would prefer MORE then for you to prove me wrong, by furnishing it.

    • Replies: @anon
  95. alexander says:
    @Che Guava

    Forget the officers, sir.

    I am talking about ME.

    I wanted to be FREE to enjoy any and every aspect of the global cultural patrimony which is my birthright, as it is all of humanity’s.

    it should have been my OPTION to do this , as it should have been yours.

    After 9-11, I authorized my government to hunt down and bring to Justice the perpetrators of 9-11…and yes, spare no expense to achieve this……….I never signed onto “obliterating” a half dozen countries THAT NEVER ATTACKED US.

    Did you ?

    So Stupid ……. it defies human imagination.

    And please……. Lets NOT discuss the COST.

    OR ….that attacking those who never attacked US….has kept us SAFE.

    That is total “War Fraud” ….and everybody knows it.

    What a bunch of cheese, the whole damn thing.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  96. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @alexander

    This video has as much integrity as your Neocon’s ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY there were IMMINENT THREAT WMD’s in Iraq.

    The video is footage of Palestinians celebrating 911 and saying that it was a sweet gift from Osama Bin Laden , screaming alah akbar and handing out sweets. They were almost orgasmic in their glee at a sneak attack that killed 3,000 civilians . Why does it lack integrity ? Its candid footage of Palestinians real feelings and emotions .

    There are 320 million angry and defrauded Americans

    Every single American is angry , LoL ?? You are angry , hey sorry for that buddy but don’t project your pent up anger on the rest of us. Im happy and so are most people I encounter here in USA.

    Haven’t we ALL gone over the ‘Dancing Israeli” documentation enough for you to know its true ?

    Candid video evidence aired on a major news network of Palestinians celebrating 3,000 americans killed on 911 is not suitable enough documentation for you. However anecdotal stories from an anonymous woman , with no photo or video evidence is iron clad proof for you. Are you that biased or you really can’t see that there is much more evidence for the former than the latter.

    to exterminate the state of Palestine, for all time

    Palestinan population has doubled in the last 3o years. Heck of an extermination plan .

    DECIMATE every single middle eastern state who might resist this ?

    Jordan , Lebanon , Egypt , Qatar ,Saudi Arabia , UAE , Yemen , Oman all resist this, when will they all be decimated ,because as it stands none have been decimated yet.

    And now Russia ,TOO, since it seems to be the one super power standing in the way of Israel’s covert and coerced disintegration of Syria, (under the bogus ruse of “regime change”), all designed to legitimize Israels annexation of the GOLAN by altering Syria’s territorial integrity through CIVIL WAR ?

    Laughable as Russia and Israel are allies. Since Russia entered Syria , Israel has somehow been able to assassinate top Lebanese and Iranian assets in the region, and also bomb hezbollah convoys and even buildings adjacent to damascus airport. Hmmmm why do you think that is.

    If its not the case, Anon, then show me…., show us ALL,….. Israels bona-fide “Peace Plan”.

    Due to the relatively low number of casualties , I think it would be better to see the peace plans of other countries that are occupying land. Why hold Israel to a higher standard . Indonesia has killed 20x the amount Israel has in its illegal occupation of Papua. Sudan has killed 100x the amount Israel has in its illegal occupation of Darfur. Those are real humanitarian crises , as the humanitarian you are , I expect you will be dealing with these issues first. I mean you don’t just dislike Jews , you care about palestinians because you have such a big heart. I mean you must be 20x more caring for Papuans and 100x more caring for Darfur , right ??

  97. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I believe the 2003 invasion of Iraq was largely done to benefit Israel. The neocons who controlled the Bush administration were very largely Jewish. Iraq had no “weapons of mass destruction, was no threat to the USA itself and had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. But Iraq was a potential threat to Israel and involving the USA in a large, protracted war with an Arab country near Israel in the middle east assured that Americans would be politically and militarily involved in the region for a great many years, also largely in Israel’s general interests.

    Israel is the last country in the world that wants to see an “isolationist” USA.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @alexander
  98. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    I believe the 2003 invasion of Iraq was largely done to benefit Israel. But Iraq was a potential threat to Israel

    I disagree that Iraq was a potential threat to Israel. Lets just review that in 1982 Israel bombed Iraq’s nuclear reactor and killed a dozen soldiers and some scientists in the process yet Iraq did not retaliate. If Iraq was a threat , what more would Israel need to do to provoke them ?? In the first Gulf war , Iraq launched 40 scud missiles at Israel, and the net result was 1 casualty . Again ,I cannot see threat. Lastly there is the country of Jordan between Israel and Iraq. How would Iraq project its military to defeat Israel ? Again I fail to see the threat .

    Israel is the last country in the world that wants to see an “isolationist” USA.

    I do not disagree with this part of your rationale .

    • Replies: @anon
  99. Incitatus says:
    @Jacques Sheete

    “…why did they [Nazi Germany] sign the pact and partner with Stalin in dismembering Poland?”

    “How could they not? You don’t know much about the Comintern, do you?”

    The Communist International forced Germany into signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? Please be specific. How did it manage to hoodwink the führer?

    “As for the Hitler-Stalin pact, why do you think they did that…”

    I seem to recall asking you the same question in #85. No answer?

    I’d ask about Barbarossa, but I‘m sure poor Adolf was forced into it, just as he was forced to digest Austria and Czechoslovakia, then invade Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, Greece, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, North Africa, etc. Now we know – the Comintern did it.

    In sum, you have:
    • No idea of the Ehrenburgh dates;
    • No recommendations on Holodomor history;
    • No real explanation of why Hilter partnered with archenemy Stalin in 1939;
    • No excuse for Adolf’s Aktion T4 “mercy killing” of his own people;
    • No reason for the omission of the 1937 Hoßbach Memorandum in ’Unnecessary War.’

    You seem equally skilled in history and in spelling.

  100. DES says:

    Pat put his finger on the fundamental question that the CFR and neocons cannot answer: What does the scenario look like that will finally allow us to withdraw our military from the Middle East?

    If they can’t answer that question, their policies amount to perpetual involvement. Most Americans won’t support that. Understandably, they want to see an exit strategy, an endgame.

    Oddly enough, Haass wrote a book titled “Foreign Policy Begins at Home.” It seemed pretty sensible. I guess it goes to show that your true colors show through when you begin to feel threatened.

  101. alexander says:
    @anon

    anon,

    Are you talking to yourself. ?..or are there two “anon”s contributing to this thread ?

  102. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Iraq may have been perceived by Jews in Israel or elsewhere as a threat. Perception is all that matters. Iraq may also have been seen as a threat in a more general sense in that Hussein was developing a modern Arab state. In any case the neocons wanted a large US military presence in the Mideast near Israel and invading Iraq was their best chance or option for this in 2003.

  103. Kyle says:
    @Olorin

    What old stories did your family keep?

  104. Jatz07 says:
    @Quartermaster

    Still sobbing on the loss of Crimea from your hovel in Canada.

  105. Che Guava says:
    @alexander

    Appreciate the reply, sir (US English sense, not milit.).

    I am not ‘murrican, but the cafeteria (I don’t know if that is the right English, serving food, no coffee) still had a TV on during meal times.

    Seeing the opening attacks in Baghdad, made me cry. It looked like a beautiful and quite normal city before.

    Interestingly, many (most?)’ ‘murricans there as ‘peace activists’, were in fact target-spotters.

    That was hideous ill-will.

    • Replies: @alexander
  106. Che Guava says:
    @alexander

    If you refer to the ‘peace-activists’ as target directors in Iraq, there was bragging about that operation in the US press of 2003, 2004, 2005, ample documentation.

    Note that nobody is in any hurry to admit any such to a conflict zone since then.

    Israel is another matter, they enjoy driving over genuine peace activists with militarized Caterpillar bulldozers, so nobody much goes to their occupied territories now.

    • Replies: @alexander
  107. alexander says:
    @Che Guava

    Yes,

    I do suppose it “sends a message”.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  108. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @annamaria

    “It is worth to recall that the educated German Jews despised the ‘Asiatic’ East European Jews.”

    That wasn’t all that unusual. It was perfectly understandable. Western Jews looking down on Eastern Jews took on dark overtones only because of the Holocaust where Nazis didn’t discriminate between the two. So, Western Jews later felt guilty for being ‘antisemitic’ toward Eastern Jews.

    But such kind of snobbery exists among all groups. Northern Italians look down on Southern Italians. Protestant Northern Irish look down on Catholic Irish. Blue State whites look down on red state whites. Urban elite whites look down on working class whites. Look at the class divide in BLUE JASMINE by Woody Allen. It’s Hillary supporters vs Trump supporters.
    Hong Kong Chinese and Taiwanese Chinese look down on Mainland Chinese. And Shanghai Chinese look down on other rural Chinese. Polish Catholics look down on Russian Slavs as barbaric.

    Western Jews had more freedom and opportunity for growth. (But then, Marx and other radicals were Western Jews or Central European Jews.) Eastern Jews had to deal with Russian backwardness and discrimination. They naturally grew more bitter. Despite social barriers, there were legal and open paths for Western Jews to advance and rise. It was much more difficult for Eastern Jews to rise. So, they turned more radical and nasty.

    In the US, it seems the Eastern Jews rose too high too fast and grew arrogant.

  109. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Che Guava

    “Mayor” is Spanish for elder or larger. Sotomayor is an old Spanish name, not Marrano as far as I know.

    “Meyer” is a Germanisation of the Hebrew for “the shining one”, and according to wikipedia has converged with the Germanic root meaning “mayor” as in of a town. Since as far as I know medieval mayorships were only rarely hereditary this statement seems odd, though.

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