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“Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

These are the offenses designated in the Constitution for which presidents may be impeached and removed from office.

Which of these did Trump commit?

According to his accusers in this city, his crime is as follows:

The president imperiled our “national security” by delaying, for his own reasons, a transfer of lethal aid and Javelin missiles to Ukraine — the very weapons President Barack Obama refused to send to Ukraine, lest they widen and lengthen the war in the Donbass.

Now, if Trump imperiled national security by delaying the transfer of the weapons, was not Obama guilty of a greater crime against our national security by denying the weapons to Ukraine altogether?

The essence of Trump’s crime, it is said, was that he demanded a quid pro quo. He passed word to incoming President Volodymyr Zelensky that if he did not hold a press conference to announce an investigation of Joe Biden and son Hunter, he, Zelensky, would not get the arms we had promised, nor the Oval Office meeting that Zelensky requested.

Again, where is the body of the crime?

Did Zelensky hold the press conference Trump demanded? No.

Did Zelensky announce Ukraine was investigating the Bidens? No.

Did Zelensky get the Oval Office meeting? Yes.

Did Zelensky get the U.S. weapons? Yes, $400 million in arms and Javelin missiles.

Where then is the crime? When was it consummated?

Or was this a thought crime, a bluff to get Zelensky to look into how Hunter Biden got a $50,000-a-month seat on the board of the most corrupt company in Ukraine, days after Joe Biden was in Kyiv threatening to block a $1 billion loan guarantee to the regime.

By the way, what was Biden doing approving a $1 billion loan guarantee to Petro Poroshenko’s regime, which was so corrupt that it ferociously fought not to fire a prosecutor whose dismissal all of Europe was demanding?

Should Biden be nominated and elected, a special prosecutor would have to be appointed to investigate this smelly deal, as well as the $1 billion Hunter got for his equity fund from the Chinese after his father visited the Middle Kingdom.

Given last week’s party-line vote in the House, where all but two Democrats voted to proceed with the inquiry, the impeachment of President Donald Trump seems baked in the cake. Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s designation of Adam Schiff to head the investigation tells us all we need to know about the sincerity of her pledge to make the inquiry bipartisan.

Suppose Zelensky had agreed to an investigation into how Hunter Biden, with no experience in the energy industry, got his sweetheart deal.

Would that be impeachable for Trump? How so?

Does not the U.S. have a right to put conditions on its foreign aid and to seek guarantees that our money will not be used as graft to grifters?

A few of those listening in on Trump’s phone call with Zelensky have gone public asserting that withholding the arms transfer to Kyiv imperiled our national security.

ORDER IT NOW

But if east Ukraine rises up and secedes from Kyiv, as Kyiv itself seceded from the Russian Federation at the end of the Cold War, how does any of that endanger America’s national security? Did not George H.W. Bush himself warn, three decades ago, that a declaration of independence by Ukraine from the Russian Federation would constitute an act of “suicidal nationalism”?

And who does the Constitution charge with making the decisions as to whether military aid goes to Ukraine?

The president, or some NSC staffer who sits on the Ukraine desk?

Since the U.S.-backed overthrow of the pro-Russian regime in Kyiv in 2014, and Vladimir Putin’s counter-seizure of Crimea and support for pro-Russian secessionists in Donetsk and Luhansk, there has been a debate in the USA over how to deal with this faraway problem.

Obama decided not to send lethal aid or tank-killing Javelin missiles, lest the U.S. arms escalate a war between Russia and Ukraine that Kyiv could not win.

The Republicans argued the issue at their Cleveland convention. Trump’s team won that argument, but lethal aid and Javelin missiles were eventually sent to Kyiv. Now Trump has sent even more weapons.

But again, the authority to make this decision resides in the Oval Office, not in the NSC, not in the CIA, and not with those in the “deep state” who have their own settled view of what U.S. foreign policy should be.

The authority lies with the elected president of the United States.

This impeachment battle will almost surely reach the Senate.

And in the end it will be about what it has been about since the beginning: An attempt by the deep state and its media, bureaucratic and political allies to overturn the democratic verdict of 2016 and to overthrow the elected president of the United States.

The establishment’s coup attempt is now approaching end game.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Nodwink says:

    If this thing really does end up taking Trump down, it will only show how bad Trump’s political judgement is.

    Joe Biden has been botching Presidential campaigns for thirty years. His 2020 run is starting to falter already, and we are still in 2019. Biden’s debate performances were terrible; his mind is just about gone, and his body will probably fail him too. He has near-zero support amongst young people (only 2% support from under 45s), has no policies and admits that he plans to sit in the White House and do nothing for four years.

    A smarter politician than Trump would have worked this out, and simply would have waited for Gropey Joe’s campaign to keel over. But Trump believed what he saw on TV, with the Liberal Establishment hyping Biden as unbeatable, and panicked. SAD!

    • Disagree: TTSSYF, Mr. Grey
    • Replies: @Wally
  2. Trump’s a roasted rump,
    So Dem odds can pump.
    It all leaves me numb.
    Fair counts not a crumb.

  3. El Dato says:

    You know’: Ambassador Yovanovitch’s 300-page testimony reveals only assumptions, innuendo and what’s in the papers

    (Photo of giggling members of the #Resistance elided)

    The highlights of impeachment testimony paint Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch as a victim of character assassination by corrupt Ukrainians and US President Donald Trump. We read through all 317 pages to see what’s actually inside.

    Yovanovitch testified before the House Intelligence Committee last month, and the transcript of the all-day proceedings was among the first made public by Chairman Adam Schiff (D-California) on Monday. Schiff’s office also released a nine-page“highlights” reel, which most reporters were all too happy to focus on.

    Rather than accept the pre-sliced serving of this particular political sausage, we rolled up our sleeves and got to reading the whole thing ourselves. The final result is far less dramatic. It reveals a diplomat who made a whole lot of assumptions and retrospective conclusions based on media reporting. Her most frequently used phrase was “you know” – but she didn’t actually know a whole lot at all.

    Interesting:

    Yovanovitch testified that in February, she was warned about Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani scheming behind her back with two Ukrainian-American businessmen – naming them as Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman (p. 28). The man who warned her was Interior Minister Arsen Avakov (p.43) – one of the rare unchanging fixtures in Kiev who has run the country’s police since the February 2014 coup.

    Getting info from top lard in the Reichsicherheitshauptamt and using it is okay!

    “I mean, he may not have used the words ‘support President Trump,’ but he said: You know the President. WeIl, maybe you don’t know him personally, but you know, you know, the sorts of things that he likes. You know, go out there battling aggressively and, you know, praise him or support him,” is how she clarified it (p. 306).

    Time for a stint in the neurotoxin-infested embassy of Cuba.

    • Replies: @animalogic
  4. SafeNow says:

    I am puzzled why no column I have read in the WSJ etc. about the House’s lack due process has even mentioned Chief Justice Roberts. That is, when the CJ is presiding over the Senate trial, wouldn’t he deem the House’s “evidence” to violate due process, and thus refuse to admit it? Might he not order a start-over, in the Senate, from the very beginning — from the first witness interview onward. Why has no columnist even speculated on the Roberts role? Isn’t this important?

  5. LondonBob says:

    In English it is spelt Kiev, like Peking or Bombay.

    • Agree: WHAT
  6. Renoman says:

    He’s being railroaded on a shitty little technicality which essentially boils down to telling the truth! Oh the horror.

  7. @El Dato

    I can’t get it — this woman is an actual ambassador of the US? “I mean” “you know” she speaks as if she’s a 15 year old “valley girl” (of Zappa fame) ?

  8. nsa says:

    Trumpstein should be forced to register as an agent of a foreign shitty little country according to the FARA disclosure statute of 1938…..along with at least 500 Congress vermin.

  9. anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    ” … to Petro Poroshenko’s regime, which was so corrupt that it ferociously fought not to fire a prosecutor whose dismissal all of Europe was demanding?”

    Can someone please explain, or provide a credible source? Because it looks like another bit of Establishment narrative slipped into one of Mr. Buchanan’s columns — like his endorsement of the assertion that Russia hacked the election — that puts VP Biden’s publicly admitted conduct and Exceptionalia’s imperialism generally in a favorable light.

    Always bear in mind that Mr. Buchanan girds the Beltway by keeping a sufficient share of the sheep voting Red in the next Most Important Election Ever.

  10. Anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    The underlying high crime is diplomacy without CIA supervision. That violates CIA’s secret law. That’s what Ciaramella and Volker were enforcing. CIA uses its impunity to control its presidential puppet rulers.

    CIA shot Jack Kennedy for committing diplomacy without CIA supervision when he advocated disarmament and peace. CIA purged Dick Nixon when he declined CIA direction. CIA attempted forcible overthrow under color of law when Trump promised to obey the law and release the records of CIA’s putsch against JFK.

    You have to acknowledge the criminal enterprise that rules this country.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • LOL: Sbaker
  11. Giuseppe says:

    Impeachment was always just another CIA color revolution.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  12. The Democrats in Congress and the Media have done the almost-impossible: They’ve succeeded in making the President of the United States into David, while they don the mantle of Goliath.

    Given that the people of the USA tend to like their morality plays simple, this entire circus just feeds Trump’s reelection (love it or hate it.)

    The harder the Leftist loons in the Media and the House of Representatives try to paint Trump as a sleazy bad-guy, the less traction they have. I strongly suspect that this entire Narrative is scripted, and wonder if the Leftist loons are being forced to play their roles or if they’re really just that stupid, arrogant and/or desperate.

    Should the truth come out, few Americans doubt that Pelosi et. al. are up to their hair-roots in self-dealing, nepotism and outright criminality. This is almost certainly why Congressmen are held in utter contempt by Joe Citizen.

    The Deep State could be an organized conspiracy or a loose affiliation of people, corrupt-to-the-core, used to the “perks” of zero oversight (because their fellow criminals are in charge of both the investigations and of “notifying” the public of the crimes.) Either way, its members have robbed the USA blind, deaf and dumb (running the National MasterCard to the tune of who-knows-how-many Trillion dollars, while pocketing the loot.)

    • Agree: TTSSYF, Sbaker
  13. Media-Industrial Complex is a high crimes machine. Truth Suppression.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Curmudgeon
  14. @Anon

    Agreed. Trump is guilty of meddling in U.S. foreign policy.

    Trump should invite Erdogan to Washington to help him implement a massive purge.

  15. Rurik says:

    But again, the authority to make this decision resides in the Oval Office, not in the NSC, not in the CIA, and not with those in the “deep state” who have their own settled view of what U.S. foreign policy should be.

    Are the quotations around “deep state”, Pat’s way of using the (((echoes)))?

    I wonder how many times Pat has wished he too could use the ((())) in his columns.

    Do it Pat, it’s liberating!

    • LOL: Hail
  16. MarkinLA says:

    McConnell should just come out and announce that any impeachment document sent to the Senate is DOA and will be rejected with an immediate vote to dismiss.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Eric135
  17. tyrone says:

    Let me get this straight , giving advanced weapons to Ukraine so they can murder russian speakers in the east is vital to US national security?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  18. Seneca44 says:

    I guess it’s good that Congress is preoccupied with such [email protected]@t- they are less likely to legislate any more rules to control us proles. Aren’t ambassadorships given at the pleasure of the sitting president for things such as large political donations and not necessarily for local knowledge or State Department longevity? IIRC, Geo H W Bush famously derided the Harrimans who got posted to France for their political connections in the US.

    As far as Trump dealing with Ukraine’s new president, I guess the Congressmen recognize the lack of artful quid pro quo dealing that each one of them uses to get money. Of course, XYZ corporation wants to give large donations with no strings attached. I’ve never been a fan of Trump, bit not everything he says is wrong and the dramatic effort put forth to unseat him makes a lot of us believe in a deep state that we formerly thought was the idea of conspiracy loons.

    • Replies: @Seneca44
  19. Seneca44 says:
    @Seneca44

    Should be “not wrong”

  20. Svevlad says:

    What he needs is to pull a Slobodan and do an antibureaucrat revolution – though the butthurt will be transgenerational, forever

  21. El Dato says:
    @tyrone

    And how!!

    It’s all about creating the impression of “Russia on the move”. This allows one to impose policy onto directionless Euroweasels. It gives the US occupation forces Europe (i.e. NATO) a reason to order more goods while shuffling troops from one country of timorous wankers to another at great expense. It justifies sanctions and interfering with the construction of gas pipelines and justifies setting up bases and ABM systems in Russia’s near abroad (the latter apparent accompanied with cash handouts to the local governments).

    No wait, the ABM systems are meant defend Europe against Iran. Yeah. Iran. Sorry.

  22. @Anon

    You have to acknowledge the criminal enterprise that rules this country.

    My variation on this theme is that in order to drain the swamp, you have to know how far it extends. While Trump promised to drain the swamp, I suspect the only people who know how big it really is, would be AIPAC.

  23. @Priss Factor

    If she had it all on Dershoshitz, why are there e-mails from Giuffre to her lawyer saying that she doesn’t know who he is?
    He has provided evidence that on the days she said he was with her, he was somewhere else. Dersh is a POS, but let’s make sure it’s for the right reason.
    She claims to have “photos” of Andrew. What photos? If they are photos of Andrew boinking a minor, then why did they not provide copies to start a criminal case, and announce that copies were provided?
    “The Palace threatened…” The Palace couldn’t do jackshit when Charles’ phone was illegally bugged, and doesn’t get involved with civil suits. They never have.
    A more plausible explanation is that the intelligence services of all of the (((Western liberal democracies))) operate as one, and they are in on Epstein’s game. Otherwise, one of the British intelligence services would have snuffed Epstein and Giuffre years ago, as would one of the US services.

  24. The high crime is obvious. He prevented the Queen from ascending to her rightful place on the throne! It wuz HER TURN!

    I would say this is sarcasm, but I really believe this is what the Left has against Trump. They don’t care about Ukraine or diplomacy or the dirty dealings common in Washington D.C.

  25. American Jews and Israel can do all the politicking, sniping, character assassination they want because Big Jew owns the Western Media and will always back the Jew play.
    The Jew Play is to destroy Trump. Big Jew Media supports it.
    God Forbid the American nation do what IT wants.
    They’ll tell you what YOU WANT. If you don’t like it they will sick their Deep State dogs on you (Brennan, Clapper, Page, Strozk and all the other scum).
    Didn’t you get the MEMO!
    HILLARY was supposed to be up 50 points!

    Hey Jews, when you are forced out of America and Europe we all expect you to leave for Israel.
    Better pack soon. The U.S. Dollar will be dead soon. Who will protect you then?

  26. Quid pro faux
    Testifies to the Washington lie.
    Too much blow
    For judges who set men up to fry.

    Power is powder…

  27. John Solomon recently published State Department e-mails and messages showing that Hunter Biden and fellow connected Burisma board members were begging State department support against Shokin, the Ukrainian Prosecutor General who was investigating corruption in Burisma. Joe Biden came through for his son; the widespread corruption in Ukraine (much worse since it became an American NAZI colony) was used as cover for Biden’s demand to fire Shokin within six hours or lose $one billion in funding.
    Buchanan focused on the main problem with the Ukraine. It has become a playground for Obama holdovers to make their fortunes and they clearly don’t want Trump “interfering” with the status quo there. They have great relationships with Ukrainian oligarchs, a major reason that Ukraine has become the poorest country in Europe (the money goes *poof*). As Vindman noted in his opening statement to Congress “The U.S. government policy community’s view” (much from Bolton) on Ukraine seems to be much more important to the Obama holdovers than the constitutional Presidential setting of policy; those who destroyed Ukraine with their 2014 coup have their agendas and expect to profit from their corruptions. The Establishment calls it “business as usual”.
    Vindman also complains about “outside influencers promoting a false narrative of Ukraine inconsistent with the consensus views of the interagency.” Trump, who constitutionally sets foreign policy including Ukraine’s, is probably the main “outside influencer”. “The U.S. government policy community’s view” and “the consensus views of the interagency” are advisory only. For better or worse, the President makes the foreign policy decisions, even it cuts into the corruption profits.

  28. John Turmel says: • Website

    Putin’s counter-seizure of Crimea
    Jct: Sorry to nit-pick but Putin did not seize Crimea. Putin granted Crimea’s referendum to “access” Russia again.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @follyofwar
  29. anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Turmel

    Don’t be sorry — call him out!

    This is another of Mr. Buchanan’s endorsements of the Establishment narrative. He serves as loyal border guard on the Right edge of the Beltway, protecting with Red v Blue distraction and the demonization of any obstacle of the Empire the people who want to run as much of the world as possible from Washington.

  30. TGD says:

    The office of US president was dreamed up at the Constitutional Convention 232+ years ago as a democratically elected king with extraordinary powers. The only requirements are that the president be at least 35 year old and a natural born citizen.

    The parts that constitute the presidential office (head of state, head of government, commander in chief and party leader) are incompatible. Incompetence, stupidity, incessant lying, egomania, narcissism, senility, megalomania: these are not grounds for impeachment. Spitting on the sidewalk (a misdemeanor in many cities) is.

    The USA is accelerating down the slippery slope.

  31. @MarkinLA

    If Turtle-Man does that, then the democrat-media cartel will be after his scalp for not conducting a fair trial. And I don’t think that McConnell, an inside the beltway lifer, has the cajones to stand up to the Bullies. Of course, I could be wrong, and hope that I am.

  32. Paul says:

    The president is sworn to faithfully execute the laws. Failure by President Trump to inquire about whether cocaine-addled Hunter Biden may have broken the law with his foreign, money-grabbing scams might have been an impeachable offense.

  33. @John Turmel

    Buchanan has made such statements before about Mr. Putin and his “seizure” of Crimea. Although Pat has praised Vlad from time-to-time, sometimes Buchanan the old Cold War Warrior rears its head. Pat’s sentiment seems to be channeling Zionist stooge Nikki Haley, whose first words, upon her appointment as UN Ambassador, was to tell Putin to “give Crimea back.”

    I only wish that Mr. Putin had also bowed to the wishes of the majority in the Donbass and annexed Eastern Ukraine while he was at it. I would have loved to have seen the dynamic duo of McCain-Graham squeel like stuck pigs, knowing that they could have done nothing about it short of war with Russia. If a Donbass return to Russia had happened, perhaps there would be no war in Ukraine today, and the thug regime running Kiev (if it was still in power) would not dare ask Washington for more Javelin missiles.

    Of course, other than expressing an armchair opinion from ten thousand miles away, who am I to give advice to Putin? Unlike Mr. Trump, he sure seems to know what he is doing.

    • Agree: jack daniels
  34. @animalogic

    I mean Rilly!! … Ashley!! … Gag me with a spoon!!

    Has it occurred to you that she might have a bitchin’ bod??

  35. I hope the “deep state” can stop the evil orange clown before the evil orange clown does any more “deep state” dirty work.

  36. Where is the high crime rate? The altright said that the increasing number of colored persons would result in higher levels of violent crime in the USA. The crime rate is falling. This angers me, because for about 10 years I actually put faith in these predictions. The altright is now in a crisis of credibility as the country gets safer. At some point, the altright must pay reparations for this false prediction.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  37. @animalogic

    Postmodernists believe that everything is power, there is nothing else. Among other things, there is no intelligence because there is no reality. Everything is a bar fight, and what counts is the number of broken beer bottles you can muster _right now_.
    Most politicians to day are postmodernists. What counts in an appointment to Ambassador (for example) is the power it adds to your coalition. Among other things, political appointees have to be loyal, even when faced with obviously counterproductive or even criminal / raw evil policies and actions. It helps if they are so very stupid that they couldn’t recognize a obviously counterproductive or even criminal / raw evil policies and actions if the policy’s target were the ambassador’s oldest son [1].

    So you get loyal but vapid appointees who can’t do anything much, but at least won’t turn on the person / organization that appointed them, and capital flow continues to be directed towards immediate consumption rather than production.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] The last of the crew needs especial remark,
    Though he looked an incredible dunce:
    He had just one idea–but, that one being “Snark,”
    The good Bellman engaged him at once.
    From Lewis Carrol’s poem “The hunting of the Snark”, pub AD 1876.

  38. ivan says:

    It is alright for the Democrats to trap both Manafort and Stone who were earlier in the Trump presidential campaign through some connection with the Ukraine. It is OK to get Gen Flynn out through some stupid idea about Russian interference. but if Trump were to (mildly) act in kind by using his influence as the President, this becomes an impeachable offence. As everyone knows during the Obama administration, there were at least two occasions when the Republicans could have trapped Obama into an impeachment process, one being the Guns for Arms deal with the Mexican drug dealers, and the other the Libyan arms for Syrian subversion which got an ambassador killed. But the Republicans did not press for it. Now however the Democrats on thinnest of reeds are trying to do a ‘Nixon’ on Trump. I do hope the Republicans have understood that their holier-than-thou attitude has no place in this dirty fight with the Democrats.

    • Replies: @Sbaker
  39. @Anon

    There’s a certain amount of truth to this — especially the second and third paragraphs:

    “CIA shot Jack Kennedy for committing diplomacy without CIA supervision when he advocated disarmament and peace. CIA purged Dick Nixon when he declined CIA direction. CIA attempted forcible overthrow under color of law when Trump promised to obey the law and release the records of CIA’s putsch against JFK.

    You have to acknowledge the criminal enterprise that rules this country.”

    However, Trump does deserve impeachment. Actually, I’d say it’s too hard to remove a president from office. He tried essentially to force the president of Ukraine to do an investigation into a political rival, Joe Biden, who at the time was leading in the polls. Now, Biden may well be as corrupt as anyone says he is; nonetheless, extorting an investigation from a foreign power into one of the president’s chief political rivals is precisely the kind of “high crime” that was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution. If anything, the Constitution is too weak and should provide for greater accountability of the president. A two-thirds vote in the Senate is too high a bar.

    The Democrats and other advocates of impeachment have, nonetheless, truly exaggerated the facts with respect to the supposed “threat” Ukraine faced from Russia. Buchanan is right about that. Obama didn’t see Russia as a serious threat to Ukraine, and in any case considered Ukraine to be an issue of Russian national interest, not America’s. (Even though Obama and Nuland fomented the coup against Yanukovych in a failed bid to get Ukraine into NATO.) Still, Obama knew that providing weapons to Ukraine would be too much of a provocation for Russia. Why should the US needlessly provoke the other major nuclear superpower?

    Most of the rest of Buchanan’s reasoning seems to reflect a certain degree of cognitive decline. Of course there are high crimes and misdemeanors. And the attempt to shake down Ukraine hardly seems the most serious. But it’s the offense that the opposing party (the Democrats) simply can’t tolerate. Violations of the emoluments clauses, violations of human rights and international law, corruption and bribery of various types, payoffs to a porn star to avoid her spilling the beans and ruining Trump’s chances of winning the election, caging lawful applicants for political asylum — mostly children — in conditions that make most of the concentration camps in history (except the Nazi death camps) look luxurious in comparison — all that could be ignored by the Democrats. But once they realized that Trump wanted to cheat his way through the 2020 election by forcing a foreign power to gin up investigations of his main political rival, well, that was, as they say, “a bridge too far”. My, my.

    In any case, it’s richly deserved. Trump deserves even much worse than impeachment. It hardly matters that the CIA cooked up the Russiagate story, or that there was actually no Russian hack of the DNC server, or that the “whistle blower” might have been CIA him- or herself. It would seem in this case that the CIA caught Trump with his pants down, purely fortuitously. It just happened that Trump was stupid enough — very stable genius that he is — to say the things he said on a phone call that many people were bound to be listening in on, just as a matter of course, and to conduct a whole campaign to box the president of Ukraine in on the financial and military aid Congress approved and contra Buchanan. It doesn’t matter that Ukraine isn’t really in an existential conflict with Russia and that it doesn’t need the military aid. They certainly can use the financial aid. Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. And its government is chock full of neo-Nazis and violent ultra-nationalists, thanks to the US. And Zelensky is sitting on a powder keg, given that volatile combination. IIRC he’s had death threats from people aligned with many of the very people in his government and parliament (Rada).

    It’s not the simple black-and-white picture so many people like to paint.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Wally
    , @NoseytheDuke
  40. I meant to write, “and contra Buchanan, the president does not have the right to deny aid that Congress has approved.” The president must faithfully execute the laws, including the release of foreign aid, as opposed to using it to suit his own narrow political purposes.

  41. Eric135 says:
    @MarkinLA

    McConnell should just come out and announce that any impeachment document sent to the Senate is DOA and will be rejected with an immediate vote to dismiss.

    As Senate Majority Leader, I understand McConnell has the power to kill bills submitted to the Senate by the Democrat-controlled House by refusing to bring them to the floor for a vote.

    I’m not sure what his power would be when it comes to a House decision to impeach.

    Assuming he could kill the impeachment process on his own, he probably wants to let it continue in the House for as long as possible because the Dems are making such fools of themselves.

    If that’s his thinking, I hope the American public sees it the same way.

    I also don’t trust the Republicans in the Senate. They were buying “Russia Russia Russia” and not supporting Trump. They were as anti-Trump as the Democrats.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  42. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon

    CIA shot Jack Kennedy for committing diplomacy without CIA supervision when he advocated disarmament and peace. CIA purged Dick Nixon when he declined CIA direction. CIA attempted forcible overthrow under color of law when Trump promised to obey the law and release the records of CIA’s putsch against JFK.

    While I don’t doubt this last one, if what you say about JFK is true, then why doesn’t the CIA just shoot them all?

  43. TTSSYF says:
    @Stochastic Determinist

    However, Trump does deserve impeachment. Actually, I’d say it’s too hard to remove a president from office. He tried essentially to force the president of Ukraine to do an investigation into a political rival, Joe Biden, who at the time was leading in the polls. Now, Biden may well be as corrupt as anyone says he is; nonetheless, extorting an investigation from a foreign power into one of the president’s chief political rivals is precisely the kind of “high crime” that was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution. If anything, the Constitution is too weak and should provide for greater accountability of the president. A two-thirds vote in the Senate is too high a bar.

    Total pot-belly pig shit (and no small measure of trolling). If anything, it should be more difficult to remove a President from office than it is, not easier. And if it ever becomes as easy as you wish it to be, be prepared for guerilla war from a sizeable percentage of the roughly 50% of the voters who see their guy ousted for no solid reason and/or from little more than pure political warfare (which is what we’re witnessing now).

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  44. El Dato says:
    @Sam Coulton

    No need. Reparations will be paid daily as Magic Colored Ones shove guns [all duly managed by gun control] into Whitey’s face, all the time.

  45. El Dato says:

    RT mentions more murk from the #DeepResistance:

    Transcript of US ambassador to Ukraine reveals leaked ‘smoking gun’ testimony based on hearsay & ‘fake news’ media

    Impeachment testimony from former US ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor reveals the fatal ’quid pro quo’ at the center of the probe rests on mere hearsay, even as Taylor’s words are held up as a smoking gun by Trump’s enemies.

    That fateful conversation [being told by Trump adviser Tim Morrison that another ambassador – US envoy to the EU Gordon Sondland – had informed a Zelensky aide of the condition to restart investigations] appears to be the closest Taylor got to the alleged quid pro quo. It’s not clear exactly what was said between them, as Sondland hurriedly revised his own testimony on Tuesday to better match Taylor’s.

    “What I know for sure,” Taylor testified, “is what Mr. Morrison told me that he must have heard Ambassador Sondland tell [Zelensky aide] Mr. Yermak. And as I said, this was the first time I’d heard [security assistance and corruption investigations] put together.” (p.189)

    ….

    At one point, Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-New York) attempted to pin down exactly what Taylor’s relationship was to the events in question.

    “This isn’t firsthand. It’s not secondhand. It’s not thirdhand. But if I understand this correctly, you’re telling us that Tim Morrison told you that Ambassador Sondland told him that the president told Ambassador Sondland that Zelensky would have to open an investigation into Biden?” Zeldin asks incredulously. (p. 298)

    The New York congressman also got Taylor to admit that his sole source for his belief that Trump wanted Biden investigated in order to influence the 2020 election was an article in the New York Times – not exactly known for its accurate or sympathetic portrayals of the president.

    I have heard of UFO investigations which can deliver better evidence for nightly abductions and probing.

  46. Truth3 says:

    Jewish scumbag of the day…

    Adam Schiff.

    Typical of Jewish politicians, no lie is out of bounds.

  47. Wally says:
    @Stochastic Determinist

    said inaccurately:
    “Trump’s chances of winning the election, caging lawful applicants for political asylum — mostly children — in conditions that make most of the concentration camps in history (except the Nazi death camps) look luxurious in comparison

    They certainly can use the financial aid. Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe. And its government is chock full of neo-Nazis”

    – Yawn. There were no such things as “Nazi death camps”.

    – The fraudulence of the impossible “holocaust” is further proven by the fact that Israel arms the so called “no-Nazis” of Ukraine..

    recommended:
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
    “The Holocaust” Is a Myth That Conceals Our Shame: http://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-holocaust-is-a-myth-that-conceals-our-shame/
    Teaching Holocaust, Don’t know much about history, by Philip Girald: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/

  48. Sbaker says:
    @ivan

    Well understated. Obama did far worse deeds and continues to lead the Africans and Muslims to further victories.

  49. @TTSSYF

    “If anything, it should be more difficult to remove a President from office than it is, not easier.”

    Seriously? Can you give some specific, detailed examples of the kinds of things a president would have to do to justify being removed from office; e.g., throwing screaming babies out of Air Force One?

    On the contrary it should be no more difficult to remove a president from office that it’s difficult for a president to commit illegal, unconstitutional and immoral crimes such as mass murdering people in Syria; illegally occupying Syria; illegally seizing other countries’ diplomatic property; starving Venezuelan peasants to death in an attempt to destabilize the legitimate government of Venezuela; etc.

    A treasonous, Israel-first, America-last, mentally and morally defective scumbag like the evil orange clown needs to be removed before he starts WW3, not after.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  50. TTSSYF says:
    @Harold Smith

    I would say throwing screaming babies out of Air Force One would qualify as an impeachable offense. All of the other things you mention are merely your hysterical, hate-filled opinion. You hate Trump. I get it.

    Go pound sand. You’ll accomplish more than you will spewing such venom in my direction.

  51. “I would say throwing screaming babies out of Air Force One would qualify as an impeachable offense.”

    Yet according to your fine-tuned moral sensibilities, blowing up children with missiles and bombs in Syria, starving children to death in Syria (Rukban refugee camp) and in Venezuela apparently doesn’t qualify?

    “All of the other things you mention are merely your hysterical, hate-filled opinion.”

    You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile jew drivel.

    “You hate Trump. I get it.”

    Well of course I do; what patriotic American doesn’t hate the evil Israel-first anti-American traitor holed-up in the White House?

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @RadicalCenter
  52. @Wally

    “– The fraudulence of the impossible “holocaust” is further proven by the fact that Israel arms the so called “no-Nazis” of Ukraine..”

    That’s what you call proof?

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
  53. TTSSYF says:
    @Harold Smith

    You have policy differences with Trump, nothing more. I dispute your selective outrage and characterization of his alleged impeachable offenses, as everything you mention could easily be applied to any President since about 1960, most especially to the sainted Obama. The people in the Middle East have been fighting each other for centuries, and Trump wants to get us out of that mess. Likewise, Central and South America, which, for the most part, are failed states. We can’t nation-build functioning democracies when the people don’t have it in them to make it work. All we can do is leave them alone until they figure it out on their own.

    News flash: Your side doesn’t get to win every Presidential election. Quit throwing temper tantrums because Trump won in 2016. Quite a few of us despised Obama, and he could have been impeached for any number of his anti-Constitutional abuses of power. He is, I believe, responsible for much of the corruption of the DoJ and CIA, as well as the abuses by the IRS (I was audited for three years straight by his IRS and was preparing to go to court to defend myself when suddenly, magically, the case against me was dropped). However, we didn’t stomp our feet and wail like little babies for eight years like those of you who hate Trump do.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  54. @TTSSYF

    “You have policy differences with Trump, nothing more. “

    No I don’t, goofball, I have a problem with an exceptionally deranged, exceptionally evil and dishonest, exceptionally traitorous, exceptionally reckless, Israel-first, America-last, murderous monster holding the highest political office in the land; a demoniac who is clearly leading the world to WW3.

    “I dispute your selective outrage and characterization of his alleged impeachable offenses, as everything you mention could easily be applied to any President since about 1960, most especially to the sainted Obama.”

    More nonsense from you; my “outrage” is not selective, knucklehead. Even “sainted Obama” as evil as he was, knew when to back off. Even “sainted Obama” as evil as he was, understood that war with Iran, for example, could potentially start WW3 with Russia and China, resulting in the destruction of America. Even “sainted Obama” as evil as he was, did not endeavor to take the world back to the most dangerous days of the cold war; even “sainted Obama” as evil as he was, did not present himself to the world as an incoherent spectacle; as an infantile, narcissistic, completely unprincipled, mentally unstable, arbitrarily-and-capriciously-acting-crackpot.

    I’m sorry, but your reckless, nuclear armed Caligula in the White House makes scumbag Obama look like a paragon of virtue and reason. Your evil messiah is not fit to hold the office of president and needs to be removed from office ASAP, hopefully before he does anymore damage.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  55. TTSSYF says:
    @Harold Smith

    “Goofball”, “knucklehead”…your resorting to name calling tells me everything I need to know.

    Comments from “Harold Smith” now filtered out. Have a nice life (and I do mean that).

  56. @Harold Smith

    By this standard, we’d have to impeach and convict every U.S. President in the past three decades: Bush senior, Clinton, Bush junior, Obama, and Trump. That would be just fine with me.

    But picking only Trump out of the whole lot of warmongering scum — because he makes or made noises in the direction of protecting the historic European-American people, or whatever the real motivation is for wanting to get only him and not the others — is not alright.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  57. MarkinLA says:
    @Eric135

    During the Clinton impeachment, a Democrat Senator put a motion to dismiss on the floor. Stupidly, the Republicans rejcted it and we had a moronic trial, so there is precedent.

  58. @RadicalCenter

    Nonsense. First, in many ways Trump is arguably worse than most or all of his recent predecessors; in terms of brazen lawlessness, mendacity, risk-taking, etc.

    Second, your “reasoning” seems to be: “If we didn’t impeach Bush or Obama, then we can’t impeach Trump”; or something like that. But we have to start somewhere, right? Make an example out of one lawless president and future presidents will take note. Do nothing to reign in the outrageous presidential lawlessness and it will only get worse.

    Over the past three decades – and especially in the aftermath of 9/11 – we’ve consolidated such power into the executive branch that one man can literally trash America and/or extinguish life on earth. Common sense says the more power ceded to the office of president, the more reasonable has to be the person holding the office. I’m sorry but Trump has shown himself to be mentally and morally unfit for the office and needs to be removed accordingly.

  59. SafeNow says:

    The bottom-line impeachment argument, seldom discussed, is that Biden is exempt; it is okay to ask for an investigation, and is commonplace to have a tacit quid pro; but Trump had to explicitly state that if perchance this lands on my political rival, he is off-limits. This was dramatic and sensible in Arthur C. Clarke’s “2010” film…”attempt no landing on Europa..all other worlds are yours to explore”…but that was different, that was stay away from God.

  60. The bottom line is that if the evil orange clown was otherwise acting reasonably, nobody would be trying to impeach him. The problem isn’t a “quid pro quo” the problem is how to get rid of someone not fit for the office he holds.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  61. TTSSYF says:

    Trump’s enemies have been trying to impeach him from the second he was sworn into office, before he had done anything at all. They have used one battering ram after another to try to oust him, so far, to no avail because there was no basis for it. The biggest driver in it all is their fear of a second term and his appointing one or more Supreme Court justices. It’s a sad commentary on what we’ve become that the Left stakes just about everything it has on nine humans in black robes and the judiciary in general rather than working through the legislative process.

  62. MarkinLA says:
    @Harold Smith

    Please pass that joint. Hell, nothing could be that strong. They have been trying to impeach him since before he took the oath of office.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  63. @TTSSYF

    “Trump’s enemies have been trying to impeach him from the second he was sworn into office….”

    Good for them. He deserved it from the second he was sworn into office. True, the CIA cooked up Russiagate, but that’s only because they knew he was dirty and investigations would eventually turn up his real crimes. He was guilty from the moment he entered the race.

    The man is an utter abomination. Impeach him, remove him, jail him, and jail his kids too.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  64. TTSSYF says:
    @Stochastic Determinist

    As with the phony Mueller investigation, this latest attempt to oust him with phony charges is likely to end with all of the excitement of a dull thud. The thistleblower is following the same playbook as the disgusting B-F, with both running to a member of Congress (Feinstein, Schiff) with concocted lies, that member of Congress sitting on the “information” until going public with it at some point in time calculated to have greatest impact with the public, both people referred to radical Leftist D.C. attorneys (Katz and Zaid), and both said to be coming forward only with “great reluctance.” Too bad Katz let slip in public that the entire Kavanaugh smear was nothing more than an effort to keep him off the court because of his (presumed) opposition to Roe v. Wade. This latest phony charge and impeachment farce is nothing more than a transparent attempt to affect the 2020 election and prevent Trump’s re-election, which is highly likely, given the clown car of Dem candidates.

    That you can applaud the CIA for its phony Russia collusion charge is complete insanity. Today, Trump. Tomorrow, your guy.

  65. @TTSSYF

    What utter delirium. You don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about.

  66. @Stochastic Determinist

    Wrong! You have to be kidding. When the Obama admin spent 5 bill of US taxpayer’s money to launch regime change (a coup) in Ukraine a sovereign nation unconnected to America’s security, (as confirmed by Nuland) and followed by generous grants and loans and then the VP Biden’s son promptly gets to be paid a ridiculously high amount there despite being woefully unqualified for the role, that is about as blatant corruption as possible and should disqualify Biden from any chance at the presidency. Who was Trump supposed to ask to investigate the matter? Mueller? Give me a break! Trump would have been derelict in his duty had he simply overlooked it.

    If it looks bad it is because the media have portrayed it that way. You only have to observe the language being used by the media chorus to understand that this is yet another “Get Trump” media beat up. I write this not as a supporter of Trump but merely as a person who considered Hillary Clinton to be a far worse choice.

  67. @Stochastic Determinist

    Please re-read again the sentence that you have responded to.

  68. @NoseytheDuke

    I’m fairly sure you didn’t understood my point. I agree that “the Obama admin spent 5 bill of US taxpayer’s money to launch regime change (a coup) in Ukraine a sovereign nation unconnected to America’s security, (as confirmed by Nuland)….” I also agree that “VP Biden’s son promptly gets to be paid a ridiculously high amount there despite being woefully unqualified for the role….”
    And I will also agree that it appears that is “about as blatant corruption as possible and should disqualify Biden from any chance at the presidency.” And I would be happy to see Biden disqualified from “any chance at the presidency.”
    But apparently you have a very black-and-white view of the situation. However corrupt Biden is (which is less provable than the obvious corruption exposed in plain daylight of Trump), Trump is still the worst, most horrible specimen of a human being — if he is even that much — ever to breathe forth sulfur and whatever else over DC and a major part of the Eastern Seaboard.
    And do you honestly have no compassion for the caged kids at the border? If so, you are no better than Trump.
    The sooner he is gone, the sooner this whole nightmare is over.

    • Troll: Rurik
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  69. MarkinLA says:
    @Stochastic Determinist

    And do you honestly have no compassion for the caged kids at the border? If so, you are no better than Trump.

    Blame their parents.

  70. @MarkinLA

    First, no they haven’t, and second, for that matter they still may not actually intend to impeach and remove him, but may only be engaged in a psyop to bolster his faux lesser-of-the-evils “campaign strategy.” (After all, if he has nothing to lose politically why doesn’t he fight back against the “deep state” by investigating 9/11 or something like that)?

    They may even truly hate his reprehensible guts but need him to do some necessary dirty work during the last year of his term that his “deep state” handlers want to distance themselves from.

    Not everything you see or hear can be taken at face value. It seems the world is more complicated than your parents or guardians have apparently led you to believe.

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