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On hearing the State Department’s George Kent and William Taylor describe President Donald Trump’s withholding of military aid to Ukraine, The New York Times summarized and solemnly endorsed their testimony:

“What clearly concerned both witnesses wasn’t simply the abuse of power by the President, but the harm it inflicted on Ukraine, a critical ally, under constant assault by Russian forces.”

“‘Even as we sit here today, the Russians are attacking Ukrainian soldiers in their own country, and have been for four years,’ Taylor said. ‘I saw this on the front line last week; the day I was there a Ukrainian soldier was killed and four more wounded.'”

Kent compared Ukrainian resistance to Russia’s intervention on the side of the Donbass secessionists to “our own Minutemen in 1776.”

“More than 13,000 Ukrainians have died on Ukrainian soil defending their territorial integrity and sovereignty from Russian aggression. … American support in Ukraine’s own de facto war of independence has been critical.”
Kent went on:

“The American colonies may not have prevailed against British imperial might without help from transatlantic friends after 1776. In an echo of Lafayette’s organized assistance to General George Washington’s army and Admiral John Paul Jones’ navy, Congress has generously appropriated over $1.5 billion over the past five years in desperately needed train and equip security assistance to Ukraine…”

“Similar to von Steuben training colonials at Valley Forge, U.S. and NATO allied trainers develop the skills of Ukrainian units at Yavoriv near the Polish border, and elsewhere. They help rewrite military education for Ukraine’s next generation, as von Steuben did for America’s first.”

“One would think, listening to this,” writes Barbara Boland, the American Conservative columnist, “that the U.S. had always provided arms to Ukraine, and that Ukraine has relied on this aid for years. But this is untrue and the Washington blob knows this.”

Indeed, Ukraine has never been a NATO ally or a “critical ally.”

Three decades ago, George H.W. Bush implored Ukraine not to set out on a course of “suicidal nationalism” by declaring independence from the Russian Federation. Despite constant pressure from Sen. John McCain and our neocons to bring Ukraine into NATO, wiser heads on both sides of the Atlantic rejected the idea.

Why? Because the “territorial integrity and sovereignty” of Ukraine is not now and has never been a vital interest of ours that would justify a U.S. war with a nuclear-armed Russia.

Instead, it was the avoidance of such a war that was the vital interest that nine U.S. presidents, from Truman to Bush I, secured, despite such provocations as the crushing of the Hungarian Revolution in 1956 and the building of the Berlin Wall.

ORDER IT NOW

In February 2014, the elected pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych was overthrown by U.S.-backed protesters in Maidan Square, cheered on by McCain. This was direct U.S. intervention in the internal affairs of Ukraine. Victoria Nuland of the State Department conceded that we had dumped billions into Ukraine to reorient its regime to the West.

To Vladimir Putin, the Kyiv coup meant the loss of Russia’s historic Black Sea naval base at Sebastopol in Crimea. Rather than let that happen, Putin effected an uprising, Crimea’s secession from Ukraine, and the annexation by Russia. In eastern Ukraine, the pro-Russian Donbass rose up in rebellion against the pro-NATO regime in Kyiv.

Civil war broke out. We backed the new regime. Russia backed the rebels. And five years later, the war goes on. Why is this our fight?

During the Obama years, major lethal aid was denied to Ukraine.

The White House reasoned that arming Ukraine would lead to an escalation of the war in the east, greater Russian intervention, defeat for Kyiv, and calls for the U.S. to intervene militarily, risking a war with Russia.

Not until Trump became president did lethal aid begin flowing to Ukraine, including Javelin anti-tank missiles.
So where are we?

Despite dramatic depictions of Ukraine as our embattled ally, Ukraine has never been an ally. We are not now nor have we ever been obligated to fight for its sovereignty or territorial integrity. Efforts to bring Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia into NATO have been repeatedly rebuffed in the United States and by our European NATO allies.

Kent and Taylor are honorable men. But they are career diplomats of the Department of State and veteran advocates of a foreign policy that sees Russia as an enduring aggressor and Ukraine as a fighting ally entitled to U.S. military assistance.

They have, in the old phrase, gone native. They champion the policies of yesterday and the embattled countries to which they are accredited and to whose causes they have become converted.

But Trump was elected to overturn the interventionist policies America has pursued since the century began. He was elected to end Cold War II with Russia, to reach a modus vivendi as Reagan did, and to extricate us from the endless wars into which Presidents Bush and Obama plunged the nation.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Alfred says:

    The 13,000 who died were mostly local civilians – Russian-speakers. Most of them were killed by the “Punishment Battalions” that moved in behind the Ukrainian army’s advances to rape, loot, torture and murder unarmed civilians. Ethnic-cleansing was the plan all along.

    Here is the West’s favorite Yulia Tyomshenko saying that atomic bombs should be dropped on Donbass and Russia.

    Yulia Tymoshenko wants to nuke 8 million Russians in the Ukraine

    Tymoshenko is 3/8 Jewish although she denies it.

    • Agree: Robjil
  2. anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    A welcome break from Mr. Buchanan’s cheerleading for Team Red in the next Most Important Election Ever. And most around here are sympathetic to any call to dial back Uncle Sam’s empire.

    But this column’s stuffed with pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — to conflate the American people and the extra-national actions of the Washington Establishment. Note, too, how this columnist does just the opposite with his use of “Putin,” e.g.:

    “To Vladimir Putin, the Kyiv coup meant the loss of Russia’s historic Black Sea naval base at Sebastopol in Crimea. Rather than let that happen, Putin effected an uprising, Crimea’s secession from Ukraine, and the annexation by Russia.”

    Why this denial of agency and legitimate autonomy to the people in Russia, Crimea, and the Donbass? For the same reason that any head of state in Washington’s crosshairs is painted “autocrat, dictator, tyrant, strongman,” etc., and that Mr. Buchanan has endorsed the Establishment line about Russia “hacking” the 2016 US election: the Beltway needs foreign foes to herd the sheeple.

    Loyalty earned decades ago keeps some of his readers from seeing that “Mr. Paleoconservative” is now no more than Stagehand Right in the puppet show.

  3. Gall says:

    Funny how this whole Impeachment circus circles around Ukraine as they bring out the neocon clowns in the State Department.

  4. Orange President Bait-and-Switch
    Sold us peace but invited war.
    Better than the Hillary witch
    Is Russia war by the liar?

    • Replies: @nymom
    , @MarkinLA
  5. Agreed. We just had to listen to the nonstop nonsense about the Kurds being sacred allies and now ridiculous blather about the sacred ally Ukrainians. The dems are so pathetic – they make Trump look good

  6. Cold War 2 is far more dangerous than the first one. The first Cold War was the peace, a post-world war environment. There have been long periods of peace (or relative peace) throughout history. The Thirty Years Peace between the two Peloponnesian Wars, Pax Romana, Europe in the 19th century after the Congress of Vienna, to name a few. The Congress System finally collapsed in 1914 with the start of World War One. That conflict was followed by the League of Nations. It did not stop World War Two. That was followed by the United Nations and other post-war institutions. But all the indications are they will not prevent a third world war. For nuclear Armageddon to be prevented the governments that can lead us into conflagration must work tirelessly to avoid their core interests clashing. When core interests clash the result is always war.

    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    • Replies: @Piotr Berman
  7. Well, well, a new crew of moral equivalents of our founding fathers, and worthy of our folding green to boot. When we think of the foreign aid they receive (the same aid Obama refused to provide, by the way), let’s not forget that the American elite very nearly sabotaged their War of Independence by means of what would later be championed as “States’ Rights”. The revolutionary central government, the Continental Congress, issued emergency paper money to fund the war effort, but when the states were requested to levy taxes to redeem the notes in hard currency, they refused. In short order the “Continentals” became virtually worthless and George Washington was no longer able to buy food, clothing, or weapons and ammo for his troops. He was forced to announce in 1778 the cessation of the military offensive against the redcoats, which effectively ended America’s bid for freedom. If France had not stepped in for another go at her hated adversary Britain, coming to our aid with her war fleet, sixty million livres in cash and ten thousand marines, America would still be part of the British Commonwealth and the revolution would be remembered, if at all, as the failed insurrection of 1775-78, because the wealthy men who controlled the state legislatures refused to pony up their fair share of the cost of the war effort.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  8. honorable men?You just cant believe that.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
  9. Thekid says:

    Everything is correct about this article except ‘Kent and Taylor are honorable men’.

  10. Tick Tock says:

    Does anyone else know a Harvard Graduate especially one with a Ph.D? I do and I must say they are not by anymeans the brightest and best. When I worked at the NIH in the early 80’s my Lab Chief made it a point not to hire any Harvard Ph.D.’s for postdoctoral or Staff fellow positions. We had them come and interview sometimes but just for comic relief. They just did not cut the mustard so to speak in World Class Biomedical Science and these two are clearly 2 of the 3 stooges when it comes to International Relations. We always thought it had something to do with Sexual Favors, the Harvard Pedigree. Now in the WOKE world that could get me in deep $hit but we do see that a excessive number of Jews and Jewish Wanna Bees have that Harvard Pedigree. Do you think inbreeding could be a problem? The Cult that brought you Lipid Disorders now exhibits serious Mental Disorders as well. Some times it just takes a few more crosses (generations) to get the genes to be fully expressed. I think we are seeing that now… Even Bernie is having a real problem keeping his Jewgenes suppressed.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  11. Rurik says:

    Every now and then, you read something that’s so otherworldly ludicrous, that is sort of jolts you.

    Kent and Taylor are honorable men.

    Pat had just quoted a litany of lies and outrageously belligerent accusations that both of these so-called “honorable men” had made under oath, with the intention of smearing and slandering their elected president, in a grotesquely transparent, pathetically unhinged, partisan putsch. (treason, in other words ; )

    And yet Pat calls these execrable rats: “honorable men”.

    I guess when you’ve marinated in the DC swamp, for as long as Pat has, words like ‘honorable’, begin to lose all meaning, and these fine words get corrupted too, like everything else in DC.

    America’s involvement in Ukraine is and has been a repulsive exorcise in corruption, war-mongering and provocation. Ever since Vlad Putin put the kibosh on Syria being just another domino to fall in the ‘seven nations in five years’ march of the fiend across the Middle East.

    That’s why Nuland and the Kagan cabal and Bloodstain all descended upon that beleaguered nation, and foisted war. As a punishment to Putin for reining in their head-slicing orcs in Syria.

    Don’t forget “Yats is the guy”, when speaking of America’s (‘honorable’) efforts to promote “democracy” in Ukraine.

    Calling these liars ‘honorable’, is so far out there, that one really does wonder at Pat’s grasp on reality.

    In eastern Ukraine, the pro-Russian Donbass rose up in rebellion against the pro-NATO regime in Kyiv.

    Civil war broke out. We backed the new regime. Russia backed the rebels. And five years later, the war goes on. Why is this our fight?

    Because “we” started it! (ya Donbas dumbass)

    (sorry)

    But geez-o-petes Pat! You must know that as soon as the Kagan cabal committed their coup, the first thing the regime in Kyiv did was to outlaw the Russian language in Russian-speaking territories, and other foul provocations against the Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine.

    How can you write about the strife in Donbas without putting in context the reasons those people are fighting?! And how Bloodstain and ((Nuland)) created those pretexts, deliberately as a direct provocation to Russia.

    Unlike America’s (perhaps most celebrated) geopolitical analyst, (Buchannan)- I’m a nobody, but at least I can see the obvious. Why not at least try to keep your readers informed?

    It was the ZUS State Dept. that created the strife and war in Ukraine. It is the ((State Dept.)) that sends the self-described Nazis in Ukraine weapons with which to kill ethnic Russians.

    This whole festering open wound is a direct result of Z-US intrigue and treachery.

    To pretend that those lying rats on the stand, are somehow ‘honorable’, is a nod to Orwell’s Newspeak. And an insult to rationality.

    But Trump was elected to overturn the interventionist policies America has pursued since the century began. He was elected to end Cold War II with Russia, to reach a modus vivendi as Reagan did, and to extricate us from the endless wars into which Presidents Bush and Obama plunged the nation.

    Thank you!

    And this, is what the whole pathetic charade is all about.

    The scum in DC want to keep the status quo. More wars in the Middle East, not less.

    More sabre rattling at Russia, not less.

    And no Sir, there is nothing in the slightest bit honorable about any of that. Quite the contrary, in fact.

  12. Kent and Taylor are honorable men. But they are career diplomats of the Department of State and veteran advocates of a foreign policy that sees Russia as an enduring aggressor and Ukraine as a fighting ally entitled to U.S. military assistance.

    Immediately after that:

    They have, in the old phrase, gone native.

    Being honorable and “going native” for a an employee of the US, or for that matter any, government is tantamount to treason–hardly a honorable thing to do. We also have to drop a pretense that US “diplomacy” produces good diplomats in numbers sufficient for running effective foreign policy, let alone decent thinkers, in the last 30 years–it does not. The United States does not have top notch diplomatic educational institutions comparable to MGIMO, as an example. Mostly those are some “International Relations” programs which are as educational as they are useless. Last two great American diplomats I remember are Esteemed Ambassador Jack Matlock and Secretary of the State James Baker. After that, mostly remnants of “old school” and now mostly brain-washed propagandists FSOs for some reason called “diplomats”. Together with US media, US State Department is one of few American institutions which degenerated into a complete sewer. Brightest example is Victoria Nuland. US foreign policy record is in the open and anyone can judge for themselves what kind of “results”, ranging from inciting wars, regime changes, supporting terrorists or open Nazis, all those “honorable” people produced. Doing so they not only damaged the outside world, they helped and continue to help, like these two “honorable” clowns to bring the United States to utter collapse.

  13. @nymom

    Please forgive my crude style which sometimes takes liberties.

  14. @Tick Tock

    Does anyone else know a Harvard Graduate especially one with a Ph.D?

    I knew two: one was doctor, another I don’t even recall exactly what he was. Not bad people at all. But truth is, Harvard is a good only as a brand to sell especially to Asian students, other than that it is known mostly for its three schools: medical, law and something else, I do not recall what else. Other than that–nothing special. A typical American higher education college.

  15. @Rurik

    “But Brutus is an honorable man.”

    • Replies: @Rurik
  16. Rurik says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    If only Pat was being so ironical.

    I can’t count how many times I listened to pundits and politicians laud Robert Mueller’s ‘honor’ and ‘integrity’, all while knowing he’s just another regime hack.

    But when you think about, they’re all ‘honorable men’.

    (just like Brutus ; )

    • Agree: SeekerofthePresence
  17. @Andrei Martyanov

    Harvard Divinity School used to turn out Christian leaders. Now they turn out Pachamama relativist eco-justice carbon-tax liberation theology identity politics antifa snowflake warriors. They wear the color spectrum at all times, and prattle how the UN will solve the world’s problems if we will only dissolve US borders, Constitution, and free enterprise system. Up with the global herd, they say; down with the free willing and thinking person created by God.

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  18. TGD says:

    The Ukrainians harbor an enduring enmity towards Russia due to what they term the Голодомор- literally “hunger death.” At least 6 million and possibly more Ukrainian men, women, children and babies were deliberately starved to death by Stalin (a Georgian) and his Jewish henchmen.

    Unfortunately, Ukraine is not economically viable and will require continuing aid from the Europeans and the USA. The Ukrainians should recognize that it was not their true Russian compatriots who instigated the Holodomor but evil west Asiatics masquerading as Slavs.

  19. Rurik says:

    The Ukrainians should recognize that it was not their true Russian compatriots who instigated the Holodomor but evil west Asiatics masquerading as Slavs.

    This is the key.

    Millions of Russians also perished during that Jewish supremacist Bolshevik nightmare.

    Blaming the Holodomor on Russians, is folly and serves the interests of modern day Jewish supremacist scum like Ihor Kolomoysky.

    But it’s all partly Russia’s fault, for refusing to repudiate the evils of the Soviet menace.

    The only path to rapprochement between Russia and her neighbors to the West, is a recognition that the Red Army were not liberators, but rather enslavers. And that Russians were also victims.

    What a tragedy that the Ukrainian people were genocided by the millions in the most cruel way imaginable, (slow starvation), by Jewish supremacists in the last century, only to turn to their modern day relatives like oligarch Kolomoysky, to lead them into the moral sewer of ((Western pop culture)) and spiritual rot.

    Note to the Russians: repudiate the Soviet menace, and embrace your brothers to the West.

    Note to Ukrainians: looking to the EU, NATO and the ((West)) for liberation, is like looking to Moloch for salvation.

  20. Victoria Nuland of the State Department conceded that we had dumped billions into Ukraine to reorient its regime to the West.

    Conceded? She got caught red-handed (pardon the inadvertant pun) engaging regime change.

  21. @anonymous

    Unfortunately, Buchanan, by omission, twisted the “effected an uprising, Crimea’s secession from Ukraine,” out of context. Crimea always had special status, even in Soviet times, when it was assigned to Ukraine. When Ukraine voted to separate, the vote did not include Crimea. Crimea, on its own, voted to join Ukraine, and again, had special status.
    The fact that Yanukovich’s support was strongest in Donbas, Lugansk, and Crimea, is always ignored. Were they “breaking away” or, in reality, trying to re-establish the legitimate government of Ukraine? When that was rejected, Crimea understood where it’s bread was buttered, and it wasn’t going to be by NATO.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  22. @anonymous

    Why, I wonder, does Mr. Buchanan keep saying that “Putin affected an uprising” in Crimea, when it is clear that, by a referendum vote of over 90%, the Crimeans, the majority being ethnic Russians, wanted to return to Russia after the 2014 coup?

    The reader should be made aware that Crimea was part of Russia for 200 years until Khruschev, once head of the Ukrainian Communist Party under Stalin, “gifted” it to his adopted republic of Ukraine in 1954. Per the “Russian Legal Information Agency,” Khruschev’s decision “violated the constitutional norms prevailing at the time.”

    Buchanan is an historian and I am not. Yet, by often remarking that it was Russian aggression in taking Crimea, sometimes I think that he still remains part Cold War Warrior.

  23. @Rurik

    I doubt if Pat ever reads our comments, but, if he did, he should read yours. Well said, sir!

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  24. gsjackson says:
    @follyofwar

    I’d rather read Rurik than any columnist I know of. Heart-felt, eloquent and unflinchingly honest.

    • Agree: Rurik, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @The Scalpel
  25. Rurik says:
    @gsjackson

    Ok, I was trying to be cute by clicking the ‘Agree’ button.

    I’m very humbled by your kind words, Gsjackson, and Follyofwar.

    I’d like to think that I was accomplishing something with the amount of time I’ve spent hammering away at the keyboard, here at Unz.

    Like you, I’m trying to undo some of the wrongs (and crimes and atrocities) that my country has perpetrated around the globe, especially following that unprecedented act of evil on 9/11.

    With your encouragement, I suppose I’ll keep on keeping on, as long as Mr. Unz makes this amazing platform available to us for doing so.

    Cheers, and thanks again for your gracious encouragement, which I reciprocate in kind.

    (btw, will be off for a few days..)

  26. Yee says:

    Ukraine is a bribe for Russia, in exchange for Russia to turn against China. Whether the US withdraws or reinforce “aid” to Ukraine depends on if Russia make move to harm China’s core interests.

    The Ukrainians are so dumb, they let the US turn their country to a bargaining chip at their own cost… Really, even the Malays in Southeast Asia aren’t this stupid.

  27. nsa says:

    “When did Ukraine become a critical ally?” asks Saint Pat.
    Simple…..exactly when the jew took over Ukraine. Poroshenko….jew. Zelensky…..jew. Most the ukie oligarchs…….jew. Nuland real name Nudelman…..surprise, surprise. Amelika is the jew’s little butt bitch.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  28. @nsa

    Indeed. Israel controls the US. To understand global politics, that is the very first thing a person has to understand.

    Yet, most Americans still stupidly think that theirs is a free country.

    • Agree: follyofwar, Miro23
  29. anon1999 [AKA "anon21"] says:

    America just can’t seem to mind its own business. That would be “isolationist”. At least McCain is no longer with us.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  30. @Rurik

    Ukrainians seem to be a special kind of stupid. Even after millions of their people were starved to death and murdered by Jewish Bolsheviks, they send their daughters to Israel to work as “models” and elect Jewish conmen as leaders.

    • Agree: Amerimutt Golems
    • Replies: @Rurik
  31. @Curmudgeon

    U.S. saber-rattling in Poland and Romania illustrates Crimea’s strategic importance to Russia.

    Get Ready, NATO: Russian Air Force Tu-22M3 Backfire Bombers are in Crimea
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/get-ready-nato-russian-air-force-tu-22m3-backfire-bombers-are-crimea-48947

  32. @anon1999

    John ‘Insane’ McCain was just a proxy.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  33. anastasia says:

    Are there Russian soldiers in the Donbass area No. They are calling Russian Ukrainians in the Donbass area “Russia”.

    Most of the people in this area are Russian by heritage.

    There is a civil war, not war with “Russia.”

    How misleading all these articles are.

  34. @anonymous

    But this column’s stuffed with pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — to conflate the American people and the extra-national actions of the Washington Establishment. Note, too, how this columnist does just the opposite with his use of “Putin,” e.g.:

    A good observation. I would like to add the following corrections:
    1. intevervention –> invasion
    2. our European allies –> our European vassals
    Just two examples of American obfuscation of the status quo to confuse the ‘sheeple’.

    • Replies: @Oikeamielinen
  35. @Oikeamielinen

    I meant to write ‘intervention’

  36. The Scalpel says: • Website
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Agree with comment. You are thinking of business school

  37. @Rurik

    Note to the Russians: repudiate the Soviet menace, and embrace your brothers to the West.

    Note to Ukrainians: looking to the EU, NATO and the ((West)) for liberation, is like looking to Moloch for salvation.

    Good points. I’ll try to get stupid Finns to read some of this. NATO dandies and Atlanticists are influential in Finland.

  38. MarkinLA says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Trump hasn’t shown himself to have enough balls to stand up and confront the Deep State and proclaim that Ukraine is not worth getting into a war with Russia over. Instead, like his stupidity in Syria, he play-acts to show that he is tough and not a Putin stooge.

    I doubt he was lying when he campaigned. He just isn’t the alpha male he pretended to be. Yeah, when it comes to grabbing women looking for a quick buck by the pussy, he was alpha, when it comes to managing our foreign policy, he isn’t.

  39. @rafael martorell

    Let’s give Mr. Buchanan the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he is quoting here from
    Marc Antony’s funeral oration for Julius Caesar, when he assures the Romans that Caesar’s assassins are all “honorable men.”

  40. @Rurik

    I watched only a few clips of the show trial, just some links provided by other commenters online. But even in that short exposure, the “honorable” William Taylor reminded me of Noah Cross. He was the character played by John Huston in “Chinatown,” ie, Faye Dunaway’s father and a disgusting old degenerate whose specialties were pedophilia and incest.

    • Agree: Rurik
  41. Miro23 says:

    Kent and Taylor are honorable men.

    Kent and Taylor are not honourable men and they know it. Their contribution has all the appearance of reading out a prepared script.

    • Agree: Mikhail
    • Replies: @Mikhail
  42. Mr. Hack says:

    Hey Pat, it’s not becoming of a rootin tootin Republican to display such cowardly attitudes towards Ukraine’s aspirations to free itself toatally from the hangover known as the iron curtain. Ukraine may not be a “critical ally” of the US yet, but it’s becoming one more everyday. It’s position in the world is becoming more and more like that of Poland, Lithuania and Romania, all neighboring countries that have become “critical allies. Your chickenshit attitude towards Ukraine belies your smug insular attitudes, whereas America has always been the beacon in the sky for freedom loving peoples arond the world. Do these sorts of sentiments seem strange and outdated to you? It’s the kind of sentiment that made Ronald Reagen a superhero within the Ukrainian-American community within the good old US for decades now.

    The US needs to show the world that it stands behind its commitments. Wasn’t Ukraine guaranteed US protection of its territorial integrity in exchange for giving up its formidable nuclear deterrent, if it were invaded by anybody, especially another signatory of the Budpest Memorandum?

    • LOL: bluedog
  43. @Amerimutt Golems

    Zioclops Dan Crenshaw wants to be the new John McCain.

  44. Skeptikal says:
    @Observator

    An excellent account of this near debacle (or perhaps the result is the true debacle?) can be read with ease: Nathaniel Philbrick’s “In the Hurricane’s Eye: The Genius of George Washington and the Battle of Yorktown.”

    Actually, lack of funds and the refusal to pony up for the costs of waging revolution were a central factor in the ultimate decision of Benedict Arnold to betray the cause, that and his being constantly passed over for well-deserved promotions within the Continental Army. To add insult to injury, he had been obliged to use his own funds to pay for many of the costs of his troops whom he led in battles that they won.

    Philbrick covers this territory equally entertainingly in “Valiant Ambition.”

  45. Skeptikal says:
    @Mr. Hack

    “Ukraine may not be a “critical ally” of the US yet,”

    Right. It is not.

    The only sense that it could be is that certain Dems and their American oligarchically inclined pals sniff profits for themselves in the territory.
    Code word “Hunter Biden.”

    • Replies: @AnonymousUkr
  46. Skeptikal says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Your host on this blog is a Harvard graduate.

  47. MarkinLA says:
    @Mr. Hack

    Yes, Clinton was a moron and we never should have been a party to that nonsense. However, what do you expect the US to do when Russia invades Ukraine when we stupidly put NATO missiles there?

  48. Mikhail says: • Website
    @Miro23

    Kent essentially lied in portraying Russia as being responsible for most of the people killed in the Donbass conflict. He also sows ethnic discord as noted here:

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/08/21/getting-real-with-the-us-foreign-policy-establishment-realists/

    Excerpt –

    Regarding a foreign government seeking to sow ethnic discord in another country, consider the comments of the US State Department’s George Kent at a one-sided Capitol Hill discussion on Crimea, hosted this past March by the Atlantic Council, US Institute of Peace and Ukrainian Embassy. At about the 45 minute mark of this taped event, Kent pointedly said that “Crimea is Ukrainian” in the Ukrainian and Crimean Tatar languages – never minding the majority ethnic Russian population in Crimea and the fact that Russian is the most preferred language there. In addition, Kent made no mention that the majority of Crimea’s ethnic Ukrainian population support Crimea’s reunification with Russia.

    Kent’s suggestive advocacy to pit non-Russians in Crimea opposed to Russia/Russians was propagandistically presented by Nick Schifrin in an Al Jazeera segment around the time of Crimea’s reunification with Russia in 2014 – something I had previously noted. Upon being reunited with Russia, Crimea has been spared the level of nationalist violence that has existed in some other parts of the former Ukrainian SSR. Within Crimea, there’s no noticeable call to leave Russia and rejoin Ukraine.

    At the above linked article, there’re supporting hyperlinks to backup what’s said.

    As for Taylor:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/blob-strikes-back-90471

    • Replies: @AnonymousUkr
  49. All along Russiagate and Ukrainegate have been for keeping the Bush/Obama foreign policy intact (the Iran Treaty was a deviation and obviously had no support from the neolibs/ neocons who run America). The fear with Trump was Peace with Russia, totally unacceptable. The ever so polite and circumspect diplomats and Ukrainian American State workers have made it clear that Trump is interfering in “policy consensus” in Ukraine, and that America’s role is only to give them money and weapons. There are probably a thousand Hunter Bidens milking the Ukraine cow for all they can steal, and they will only leave when all four legs of the cow are skyward.

  50. @Michael888

    This explanation makes sense (to the uninformed but very curious person that I am). Why are our legal processes and institutions not being used to prosecute anyone but Trump? And isn’t Trump required by law and oath to defend the country from enemies, both foreign and domestic? How can an “impeachment” rest on his request of Ukraine’s leader to investigate a crime committed in Ukraine by a U.S.citizen. Maybe I should put my name on the ballot as a candidate for US President, and then steal millions of dollars in a foreign country so that I can’t then be pursued by the Chief Executive for committing a crime. (Investigation of the crimes of political opponents is a crime?!) But then we’ve got the likes of Rudy Giuliani — another one of the 9/11 criminals still running free — in the middle of this. I read Unz in search of hope. More intelligent people here than anywhere else I can find (in spite of the same-old same-old reactions and the focus on problems rather than solutions). Causes of hope sincerely requested.

  51. @Mikhail

    idiot when California will be Mexican majority it should join Mexico? it’s bullshit “referendum”. no propaganda, made in hurry because they didn’t have support more than 30% though ethnic Russian are 50-odd %. but you know uncle Stalin’s “it’s important not how to vote but how to count”.

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  52. @Michael888

    maybe they have decency given Ukraine gave up 3-d nuclear arsenal in exchange for security guarantees.

  53. @Skeptikal

    idiot Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons in exchange of security guarantees. also USA are interested in gas supply to Europe. Hunter Biden case is bullshit. some pro-Russian oligarch gave him a job because he thought new Government won’t touch him because of that. it has nothing to do with Biden himself probably.

  54. Mikhail says: • Website
    @AnonymousUkr

    I’m the idiot!?

    Just how and when did Crimea become Ukrainian?

  55. nebulafox says:
    @Mr. Hack

    I know this is a parody, but there’s a good reason Bush, Baker, and Scowcroft weren’t all that gung-ho on the idea of an independent Ukraine, let alone one that seriously entertained the idea of NATO membership.

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  56. Mr. Hack says:
    @nebulafox

    Three suits that never impressed me nor got my vote. 🙁

  57. @peter mcloughlin

    “For nuclear Armageddon to be prevented the governments that can lead us into conflagration must work tirelessly to avoid their core interests clashing”

    I guess we need to settle for our government work to start a nuclear war grow more sloppy and ineffectual. It would be better if we agreed that we “won” and stopped wasting money. Pres. Trump: “Our nuclear was getting very tired..Now we have it in, as we would say, tippy-top shape. Tippy top. We have new and we have renovated and it’s incredible. We all should pray we never have to use it.”

    Now we can stop making more, nix funding new, yet more incredible weapons and gain some income by showing our well rested, shiny, tippy-top missiles and what not to school children, charging the schools for bus parking.

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  58. gsjackson says:
    @Piotr Berman

    I believe this is supposed to be one of the “Q proofs.” Supposedly one of the anons requested on Twitter that Trump use the expression “tippy top” as a signal of affiliation with Q, and he came up with this within a few hours.

  59. John L says:

    I never hear reference to the fact that the US is indeed Ukraines protector.
    When the Soviet Union fell apart, Ukraine had quite a few nukes left
    under its control. The US promised that if it would turn in those weapons
    that we would protect it from Russian invasions.
    When this, our personal moral obligation is mentioned,
    all I see are the “Three Monkeys”.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  60. Anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    Ukraine, Syria, Hong Kong, Venezuela…there isn’t a continent America is willing to leave alone. The neocons are hellbent on killing this country through endless wars, just as the neolibs are hellbent on killing it with endless immigration. What is the root of all this evil? 75% of Jews are neolibs, the remaining 25% are neocons.

    Trump’s not on trial for Ukraine, that’s just a side show. His real crime is insubordination to the neocons, for daring to fire their man Bolton and attempting to pull out of Syria. Bolton was the source for the “whistleblower”. Maybe Trump’s hoping the latest capitulation – recognition of the settlements in West Bank as Israeli territory will bail him out. But maybe the neocons have finally had it with him. Their man Pence is ready for prime time and he’s a better dog. Pence’s been planning the soft coup since Jan. 2017. He’s waited long enough. It’s his time.

  61. MarkinLA says:
    @John L

    This was a stupid mistake by Clinton. Ukraine was stupid to depend on a promise that the US had no capability to enforce short of nuclear war.

  62. Rurik says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Ukrainians seem to be a special kind of stupid. Even after millions of their people were starved to death and murdered by Jewish Bolsheviks, they send their daughters to Israel to work as “models” and elect Jewish conmen as leaders.

    Kevin MacDonald is correct to look at the agenda of Jewish supremacists as a group evolutionary strategy. And a major, if not the major tactic in that strategy is to degrade their enemies, as much as to kill them.

    I suspect that it very much suits the Jewish supremacists in Ukraine that so many of the Ukrainian Gentiles are, as you point out, ‘a special kind of stupid’. But this is no accident. Just as at Katyn, as soon as the Jewish supremacists show up, they carefully round up all the Gentiles of accomplishment or intelligence, and slaughter them en masse.

    This doesn’t just help to subdue and enslave the remaining Gentiles, but even more critically, it removes the ‘best of the Gentiles’ from the gene pool for all eternity.

    “The best of the gentiles: kill him; the best of snakes: smash its skull …” – Kiddushin 66c

    The reason the Kulaks were genocided, was because they were the best of the Ukrainian stock. The hardiest, smartest, most resilient of all the Ukrainian people, and it was because they were the ‘best of the Gentiles’, that they were summarily starved to death by the untold millions. Now they’re gone for all eternity, and with them, their genes.

    ‘Such a deal!’

    If it were possible to exhume a few of the Holodomor dead, and clone their DNA, I suspect you’d have a segment of people who’d be very different than the Ukrainians you mention, who worship at the alter of Western moral depravity, emanating out of Hollywood and rap ‘music’.

    I know a few Ukrainians, and some are exemplary people. But I’ve also met a few who’re tattooed with all manor of gang-looking grotesqueries, and listen to ghetto rap.

    It’s no doubt the latter, who’re the intended outcome of Jewish supremacist, genetic evolutionary strategy.

    In fact this strategy is so in-your-face obvious, every single second of every single day, here in the good ol’ ZUS of A, that their efforts to dumb down, and blend every last bastion of White, Western genes, off the face of the planet, that you’d have to be Clevon of Idiocracy not to see the glaring evidence of it from every corner of our depraved and dying republic.

    Is there anything on this earth, that seems more desperately in earnest, from our ((cultural elites and academics and political class))), than that all Americans reminiscent of the Kulaks, (white, proud, intelligent and independent), blend their offspring with Africans and Hispanics (and anything and everything that can be imported) in a psychotic imperative to remove for all time any viable resistance to, or competition for ascendancy to the Jewish supremacists, who’re in full-on genocide mode today?

    And that’s not just the ZUS either, but England and Sweden and Germany and everywhere else they possibly can impose their gene-debasing energies. Even Australia is importing ‘gib-me-dats’, and cultural enrichments like “Leb style”.

    It’s not for nothing that their racial supremacy manual, exhorts them to kill the best of the Gentile.

    It’s really little more than a transparent, if repulsive, evolutionary strategy. And it’s why, I posit, that they slaughtered so many of the best of the Ukrainians, as soon as they were able. Just like Bela Kun in Hungary. It’s really as tiresome as it is predictable.

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