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“NYPD, KKK, How many kids did you kill today?”

That was one of the chants of anti-police protesters in New York City. Another was, “What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want them? Now!”

Well, the marchers got their wish Saturday in Bedford-Stuyvesant when Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, firing into a patrol car, murdered NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu.

The two were executed by this criminal who had just shot his girlfriend outside Baltimore and used social media to say he was going to Brooklyn to take revenge for Michael Brown and Eric Garner.

“There’s blood on many hands tonight,” said Patrick Lynch of the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, “That blood on the hands starts at City Hall in the office of the mayor.”

Echoed Ed Mullins of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, “The blood of 2 executed police officers is on the hands of Mayor de Blasio.”

Ex-Governor George Pataki called the murders “a predictable outcome of the divisive anti-cop rhetoric” of Bill de Blasio and Eric Holder.

When de Blasio arrived at Woodhull Hospital where Ramos and Liu had been taken, scores of cops turned their backs.

Rudy Giuliani dissents. “The blood is not on his hands. … That’s an incorrect and incendiary charge.” But, adds Rudy, “The protesters should not have been allowed to take over streets the way they did.”

Indeed, they should not. And here is where the moral culpability of de Blasio, Holder, Al Sharpton and President Obama lies. They gave aid and comfort to the cop-haters and cop-baiters.

When did any of these four speak up or speak out to denounce the blocking of squares, highways, bridges, tunnels, shops and stores, from New York to the Mall of America?

When did they denounce the protesters for their hateful anti-police rhetoric? When did they demand that these mobs go home and respect the rule of law and decisions of the grand jury, even if they disagreed?

When a Staten Island grand jury voted not to indict NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of Eric Garner, the mayor did not urge the city to accept it calmly, but expressed astonishment, called it a “very painful day for so many New Yorkers,” and said he had warned his biracial son to be especially careful dealing with cops.

De Blasio was feeding the myth that cops, especially white cops, are what young black males should fear most. That myth is a big lie.

After the shooting death of Michael Brown by Officer Darren Wilson, Holder flew to St. Louis, decried racism, which had nothing to do with the shooting, ordered the FBI to conduct it’s own investigation, and declared, “I am the Attorney General … but I am also a black man.”

When a St. Louis County grand jury concluded no crime had been committed in Ferguson, that Wilson acted in self-defense, Holder said his department would look at charging Wilson with violating Brown’s civil rights.

In an increasingly ugly national clash between police and black communities, Holder did not stand squarely for the rule of law; he and the president took sides against the cops and stood with their own.

“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” said Obama, flashing a signal of racial solidarity in a blazing issue dividing his country and in which his allies, Revs. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, were stirring up crowds with incendiary rhetoric.

The Wall Street Journal writes today, “Especially in urban America, the police walk that line between civilization and mayhem every day.” Others say that the thin blue line stands between us and anarchy.

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True. But what does it say about our country that, if the police took a week off, our cities would descend into mayhem. What does it say about the character of the people upon whom our democracy depends? Would the America of the Founding Fathers have descended into mayhem or anarchy if police were not a huge and visible presence? Would the America of the 1940s or 1950s?

In D.C. last week, an exasperated Police Chief Cathy Lanier said:

“All of these protests that are blocking traffic, it’s pulling police officers out of the neighborhoods that need the police the most. … So how do I prevent homicides and shootings and violent crimes and robberies and burglaries right before the holidays if all my cops are directing traffic around 30 guys that want to be out there at 11 o’clock at night laying in the middle of Chinatown?”

Consider the chief’s statement. Is it police brutality or police violence that worries her? Are cops committing those homicides, shootings, violent crimes, robberies and burglaries? Or does that crime come out of the poor neighborhoods the cops are trying to protect?

That’s the real D.C. That’s the real America. Unfortunately, de Blasio, Sharpton, Holder and Obama are either too blind to see it or will not concede it because they fear speaking truth to their followers. “To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men.”

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

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  1. Jefferson says:

    Left Wingers care more about policing freedom of speech than they do about policing violent street crimes.

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    And right-wingers care more about punishing the guilty than preventing crime in the first place.

    How's that for gross generalization?
    , @Truth

    Jefferson says:
    December 23, 2014 at 6:53 am GMT

    Left Wingers care more about policing freedom of speech than they do about policing violent street crimes.
     
    LMFAO!

    Well imagine that!
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  2. Sorry Pat, the cops declared war on us first. Prohibition, the War on (some) Drugs, the infiltration of the militia/patriot movement, “make it home at end of shift”, machine guns, tanks, and other body armor. We can’t move without being watched on cameras. Honorable men would have resigned from the police forces, so we can only conclude that those who remain are our enemies.

    Let the cops issue a truce. End the war on drugs. Take down the cameras. Take away the body armor and weapons of war. Let them walk the beat with a radio, a 38 revolver and 12 rounds of ammo.

    The rights of a citizens are more important than the safety or life of any government employee.

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    "Sorry Pat, the cops declared war on us first. Prohibition, the War on (some) Drugs, the infiltration of the militia/patriot movement, “make it home at end of shift”, machine guns, tanks, and other body armor. We can’t move without being watched on cameras. Honorable men would have resigned from the police forces, so we can only conclude that those who remain are our enemies."

    Exactly. We have given free rein to thugs. And look what is has gotten us. It's time to hang the corrupt officials and dismiss the thugs.
    , @Aaron Klein
    Right on Chris!
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  3. Riki says:

    Maybe it is time for US to reflect why there are so many criminals, both in jail and in the streets.
    Crime is a symptom, not a cause. Police is just a symptomatic cure, not a cure.
    it is not so difficult to understand the cause is inequality. A social system which allows to 1% to rip off and rob money to 99% of the population.
    US seems to be going the opposite direction.
    Criminals are going to increase.
    Curfew is the next move to ensure safety?
    1% ultra-mega-rich and 99% living under curfew? With not enough money to eat or live? I would assume 50% of them will be criminals, simply because they will have no choice.
    “Hunger games” seems to be more prophetic then ever

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    The problem of crime in the US is very much a racial problem. Negro populations all over the world have high rates of violent crime. This in part due to the fact that Negro populations have low average IQ. Other factors may include the 2-R allele of the MAOA gene which for example has afrequency of .1% in US white males and 5-10% in US black males.
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  4. @Jefferson
    Left Wingers care more about policing freedom of speech than they do about policing violent street crimes.

    And right-wingers care more about punishing the guilty than preventing crime in the first place.

    How’s that for gross generalization?

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  5. @Chris Mallory
    Sorry Pat, the cops declared war on us first. Prohibition, the War on (some) Drugs, the infiltration of the militia/patriot movement, "make it home at end of shift", machine guns, tanks, and other body armor. We can't move without being watched on cameras. Honorable men would have resigned from the police forces, so we can only conclude that those who remain are our enemies.

    Let the cops issue a truce. End the war on drugs. Take down the cameras. Take away the body armor and weapons of war. Let them walk the beat with a radio, a 38 revolver and 12 rounds of ammo.

    The rights of a citizens are more important than the safety or life of any government employee.

    “Sorry Pat, the cops declared war on us first. Prohibition, the War on (some) Drugs, the infiltration of the militia/patriot movement, “make it home at end of shift”, machine guns, tanks, and other body armor. We can’t move without being watched on cameras. Honorable men would have resigned from the police forces, so we can only conclude that those who remain are our enemies.”

    Exactly. We have given free rein to thugs. And look what is has gotten us. It’s time to hang the corrupt officials and dismiss the thugs.

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  6. I’m surprised to learn that government employees are not considered citizens.

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    I’m surprised to learn that government employees are not considered citizens.

    They are government employees not in the military. That makes them civilians. I am not in the employ of the king. That makes me a citizen. Civilians bow the king, citizens do not.
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  7. Cameron says:

    “But what does it say about our country that, if the police took a week off, our cities would descend into mayhem. What does it say about the character of the people upon whom our democracy depends?”

    Substitute the word “Gestapo” for “police” and “German cities of the 1930s and 1940s” for “our cities,” then answer the question. A populace must respect the police, not fear them as most people do our police. There is little reason to respect our jackbooted, totally militarized police. The era of “peace officers” whom we were able to respect, not fear, is gone.

    While I hold in high regard Buchanan’s foreign policies and views on immigration, I cannot doubt that he is completely clueless concerning our police.

    Has he not heard, as an example, of our “Civil Asset Forfeiture Laws,” generated by our “War on Drugs” which are unconstitutionally enriching the police while bankrupting totally innocent people? http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/no_author/the-cops-are-sacking-their-own-cities/

    Has he not seen video after video of corrupt police physically attacking, even sexually molesting, innocent pedestrians and drivers, as well as bystanders, then lying about the incidents? Only videos expose their lies.

    Has he not read of the unconscionably high salaries and pensions the police collect, a big factor in bankrupting municipalities (and taxpayers)?

    “All of these protests that are blocking traffic, it’s pulling police officers out of the neighborhoods that need the police the most. … So how do I prevent homicides and shootings and violent crimes and robberies and burglaries right before the holidays if all my cops are directing traffic around 30 guys that want to be out there at 11 o’clock at night laying in the middle of Chinatown?”

    Have not Buchanan and Police Chief Cathy Lanier read that the courts have said that the police have no obligation to protect us? So what are we paying them for? Why are they collecting high salaries and pensions? And if our officials fall back on the lie that policing is a dangerous occupation, they would improve their knowledge of reality were they to read the actual statistics that policing is far from among the deadliest of professions in this country. “The majority of police deaths are not as a result of violence in the line of duty either, most have occurred accidentally rather than feloniously. Most police officers die, not in some heroic high speed pursuit of a child murderer, but in routine traffic accidents.” http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-top-10-dangerous-jobs-country-tanks/

    “Here are occupations more dangerous than being a police officer. Number of deaths per 100,000 employed: Logging workers: 127.8
    “Fishermen: 117.0
    Aircraft pilots: 53.4
    Roofers: 40.5
    Garbage collectors: 36.8
    Electrical power line installation/repair: 29.8
    Truck drivers: 22.8
    Oil and gas extraction: 21.9
    Farmers and ranchers: 21.3
    Construction workers: 17.4”

    “When a Staten Island grand jury voted not to indict NYPD Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of Eric Garner, the mayor did not urge the city to accept it calmly, but expressed astonishment, called it a “very painful day for so many New Yorkers,” and said he had warned his biracial son to be especially careful dealing with cops.”

    Accept it calmly? The coroner called the death “a homicide.” Accordingly, a murder had been committed. If there is a murder, there is a perpetrator. The Grand Jury, under the prosecutor’s direction, owed all of us at least an indictment as a requital for murder. A trial would follow, all the facts revealed to a jury. That would be the venue for a declaration of innocence or guilt by a jury. How could this miscarriage of justice possibly be tolerated? How could it be accepted calmly when a video showed all of us that a man doing nothing but selling untaxed cigarettes to willing, free buyers in a free market was attacked by four or five bullies, resulting in his death, when other means could have been used to prevent freedom of behavior by a free man trying to earn a living freely? This video proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that if one refuses to pay even a small amount in taxes, he is subject to murder by the state. Yes, indeed, accept this miscarriage of justice, when this was a repetition of what has occurred over and over and over again in our “free” country.

    Let’s, for the moment, forget about racism, and focus on an evil police state gone mad.

    (As an aside, why is it that we call our president our first “Black” president, but New York’s mayor’s son is called “Bi-racial and George Zimmerman is called Caucasian?–Slanted characterizations emanating from our news media and politicians which we should ponder.)

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  8. “Let’s, for the moment, forget about racism, and focus on an evil police state gone mad.”

    The elder statesmen of the white social justice warriors are informing the cadre that they should step aside and play a subservient role to black leadership here. If they want to help, they should distribute posters where they’re told to, march in the back, raise money, bring your wives and girlfriends so you can be cuckolded, that sort of thing. Perhaps you should address them with your concerns that the movement has centered around the issue that the media tells them the movement is about.

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  9. @Chris Mallory
    Sorry Pat, the cops declared war on us first. Prohibition, the War on (some) Drugs, the infiltration of the militia/patriot movement, "make it home at end of shift", machine guns, tanks, and other body armor. We can't move without being watched on cameras. Honorable men would have resigned from the police forces, so we can only conclude that those who remain are our enemies.

    Let the cops issue a truce. End the war on drugs. Take down the cameras. Take away the body armor and weapons of war. Let them walk the beat with a radio, a 38 revolver and 12 rounds of ammo.

    The rights of a citizens are more important than the safety or life of any government employee.

    Right on Chris!

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  10. After reading this piece and all the others on this issue and it,s bretheren, I looked up Eric Holder,he who calls himself a BLACK man,well I am married to a COLOURED lady from South Africa and there are more than 4.5 million of them here and they are PROUDLY coloured AND refuse to be called BLACK.My wife says she refuses to insult her blood make up by accepting the description BLACK because in her family is Indian ,some negro[Black],a german grandfather AND Bushman KHOI blood,before me she was married to a south african Indian, so her children my step children when asked call themselves COLOURED and identify absolutely as such.In fact the majority of Blacks in the USA are COLOURED,their organisation is called NAACP the C stands for COLOURED .WHY do the likes of Holder have to emphasize the Black,because it gives them power and influence.Mr Holder looks a lot like my brother in law and he is a COLOURED headmaster and Preacher

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    (As an aside, why is it that we call our president our first “Black” president, but New York’s mayor’s son is called “Bi-racial and George Zimmerman is called Caucasian?–Slanted characterizations emanating from our news media and politicians which we should ponder.)
     
    He's called "America's second black president", too.
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  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I am not a cop groupie- very far from it. However, we have to be realistic. They are people hired to do a job that needs to get done. We face danger from the criminal class and need a group of people who’ll do that. Most people wouldn’t want to take on rampaging thug Brown by themselves so that gets outsourced to someone like Wilson who is tasked with standing up him. The mentality of a cop is certainly going to be different from that of your typical accountant or school teacher so obviously one isn’t going to be confused with the other. Unless we’re going to have neighborhood vigilante teams then a professionalized police force is going to be a necessary evil.
    Insofar as having too much power that’s pretty much a function of the politics of the state. A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces. Supposedly we’ve voted for the politicians who’ve instituted all things Homeland Security. The Robocop and SWAT team type policing needs to be dialed back some. We want protection but don’t want to live in a garrison state either.

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    Your assumption seems to be, If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship, domination, murder, sexual molestation, home invasion by militarized thugs, confiscation of our assets through civil forfeiture laws, endless wars based on lies and everything else associated with tyranny.

    You say, “Police are hired to do a job that needs to get done.” Unfortunately, that job rarely if ever gets done. According to law, the police are under no obligation to protect us; and how often do we hear of police actually preventing crime against individual citizens, rather than arriving on the scene well after a crime has been committed?

    As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims).

    You say, “Insofar as having too much power that’s pretty much a function of the politics of the state.” And we’re supposed to accept that tenet as a certitude? Do you know nothing about the history of our country? Have you not seen the gradual usurpation of power by the state, slowly wresting freedom from our fellow citizens? If we had so much more freedom in preceding decades and centuries, why does the state need its despotic power over (so-called) free citizens now, and why must we accept this oppression? Instead of allowing the increase of the state’s power over us, why not think more positively and attempt to decrease or eliminate completely state sovereignty?

    Yes, as you say,”A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces.” You are willing to bow your head, fall to your knees, lick their boots and meekly accept this, thanking them for the goodness of their protection.

    You say, “Supposedly we’ve voted for the politicians who’ve instituted all things Homeland Security.” Yes, supposedly. I didn’t vote, and I would never vote for evil, the only choice we have. If elections really changed things they would be illegal. Anyone who votes thinking that it will make a difference has been asleep since childhood. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is a system in which two wolves and a sheep decide what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

    And Ayn Rand presciently said, “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms.   Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you.   May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” --Samuel Adams

    I would advise you to read the novel “1984.” It is the handbook of oppression, studied closely by politicians as the Bible and Koran are studied by religious fanatics. You will learn a lot from George Orwell.
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  12. Cameron says:
    @Anonymous
    I am not a cop groupie- very far from it. However, we have to be realistic. They are people hired to do a job that needs to get done. We face danger from the criminal class and need a group of people who'll do that. Most people wouldn't want to take on rampaging thug Brown by themselves so that gets outsourced to someone like Wilson who is tasked with standing up him. The mentality of a cop is certainly going to be different from that of your typical accountant or school teacher so obviously one isn't going to be confused with the other. Unless we're going to have neighborhood vigilante teams then a professionalized police force is going to be a necessary evil.
    Insofar as having too much power that's pretty much a function of the politics of the state. A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces. Supposedly we've voted for the politicians who've instituted all things Homeland Security. The Robocop and SWAT team type policing needs to be dialed back some. We want protection but don't want to live in a garrison state either.

    Your assumption seems to be, If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship, domination, murder, sexual molestation, home invasion by militarized thugs, confiscation of our assets through civil forfeiture laws, endless wars based on lies and everything else associated with tyranny.

    You say, “Police are hired to do a job that needs to get done.” Unfortunately, that job rarely if ever gets done. According to law, the police are under no obligation to protect us; and how often do we hear of police actually preventing crime against individual citizens, rather than arriving on the scene well after a crime has been committed?

    As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims).

    You say, “Insofar as having too much power that’s pretty much a function of the politics of the state.” And we’re supposed to accept that tenet as a certitude? Do you know nothing about the history of our country? Have you not seen the gradual usurpation of power by the state, slowly wresting freedom from our fellow citizens? If we had so much more freedom in preceding decades and centuries, why does the state need its despotic power over (so-called) free citizens now, and why must we accept this oppression? Instead of allowing the increase of the state’s power over us, why not think more positively and attempt to decrease or eliminate completely state sovereignty?

    Yes, as you say,”A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces.” You are willing to bow your head, fall to your knees, lick their boots and meekly accept this, thanking them for the goodness of their protection.

    You say, “Supposedly we’ve voted for the politicians who’ve instituted all things Homeland Security.” Yes, supposedly. I didn’t vote, and I would never vote for evil, the only choice we have. If elections really changed things they would be illegal. Anyone who votes thinking that it will make a difference has been asleep since childhood. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is a system in which two wolves and a sheep decide what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

    And Ayn Rand presciently said, “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms.   Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you.   May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” –Samuel Adams

    I would advise you to read the novel “1984.” It is the handbook of oppression, studied closely by politicians as the Bible and Koran are studied by religious fanatics. You will learn a lot from George Orwell.

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    "As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims)."

    This is incorrect. Get your facts straight before you write. This error, for one, diminishes whatever point you're trying to make. It is the stuff of rabble-rousing, not reasoned debate.
    , @AnAnon
    "If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship" - basically. no free institution will survive multiculturalism, and while we could always ditch the multiculturalism, that isn't too likely.
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  13. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Commenter @ Cameron is so far out in la-la land that replying would be like trying to communicate with a donkey. Unmedicated loons always crop up in any attempt to rationally discuss serious issues and derail the train of thought. Or perhaps he’s just a troll pulling some ‘more radical than thou’ act. Yeah, just read Ayn Rand and all things will be revealed. Crackpot or troll?

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    A mindless person who has no rational arguments to counteract fact always resorts to ad hominem insults revealing himself as an unworthy fool.

    "The only person to argue with a fool is a bigger fool."--Confucius

    I’m taking Confucius’s advice and will not argue with a mindless fool whose feelings were hurt and who has nothing of interest or value to add to the discussion.
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  14. Hubbub says:
    @Cameron
    Your assumption seems to be, If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship, domination, murder, sexual molestation, home invasion by militarized thugs, confiscation of our assets through civil forfeiture laws, endless wars based on lies and everything else associated with tyranny.

    You say, “Police are hired to do a job that needs to get done.” Unfortunately, that job rarely if ever gets done. According to law, the police are under no obligation to protect us; and how often do we hear of police actually preventing crime against individual citizens, rather than arriving on the scene well after a crime has been committed?

    As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims).

    You say, “Insofar as having too much power that’s pretty much a function of the politics of the state.” And we’re supposed to accept that tenet as a certitude? Do you know nothing about the history of our country? Have you not seen the gradual usurpation of power by the state, slowly wresting freedom from our fellow citizens? If we had so much more freedom in preceding decades and centuries, why does the state need its despotic power over (so-called) free citizens now, and why must we accept this oppression? Instead of allowing the increase of the state’s power over us, why not think more positively and attempt to decrease or eliminate completely state sovereignty?

    Yes, as you say,”A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces.” You are willing to bow your head, fall to your knees, lick their boots and meekly accept this, thanking them for the goodness of their protection.

    You say, “Supposedly we’ve voted for the politicians who’ve instituted all things Homeland Security.” Yes, supposedly. I didn’t vote, and I would never vote for evil, the only choice we have. If elections really changed things they would be illegal. Anyone who votes thinking that it will make a difference has been asleep since childhood. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is a system in which two wolves and a sheep decide what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

    And Ayn Rand presciently said, “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms.   Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you.   May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” --Samuel Adams

    I would advise you to read the novel “1984.” It is the handbook of oppression, studied closely by politicians as the Bible and Koran are studied by religious fanatics. You will learn a lot from George Orwell.

    “As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims).”

    This is incorrect. Get your facts straight before you write. This error, for one, diminishes whatever point you’re trying to make. It is the stuff of rabble-rousing, not reasoned debate.

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    Enlighten me with the facts citing references. Here are mine:

    Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn't stop him because he was suspected in a convenience-store robbery, but because he was "walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic," the city's police chief said Friday.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/

    Michael Brown Robbed Convenience Store, Stole Cigarillos Before Darren Wilson Shooting, Dorian Johnson Says
    http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-brown-robbed-convenience-store-stole-cigarillos-darren-wilson-shooting-dorian-1729359

    Ferguson police say Michael Brown was a robbery suspect, identify Darren Wilson as officer who shot him
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-releasing-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/

    Police: Before Shooting, Brown Robbed Store
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/michael-brown-strong-arm-robbery-657032

    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/what-the-war-on-cops-has-wrought/#comment-811932

    No Duty to Protect: Two Exceptions
    http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=341&issue_id=72004

    Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals
    https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

    Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection
    Most Police Have No Legal Duty to Protect Citizens from Criminal Attack
    http://fee.org/freeman/detail/just-dial-911-the-myth-of-police-protection

    I could cite many more.
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  15. Cameron says:
    @Anonymous
    Commenter @ Cameron is so far out in la-la land that replying would be like trying to communicate with a donkey. Unmedicated loons always crop up in any attempt to rationally discuss serious issues and derail the train of thought. Or perhaps he's just a troll pulling some 'more radical than thou' act. Yeah, just read Ayn Rand and all things will be revealed. Crackpot or troll?

    A mindless person who has no rational arguments to counteract fact always resorts to ad hominem insults revealing himself as an unworthy fool.

    “The only person to argue with a fool is a bigger fool.”–Confucius

    I’m taking Confucius’s advice and will not argue with a mindless fool whose feelings were hurt and who has nothing of interest or value to add to the discussion.

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  16. Cameron says:
    @Hubbub
    "As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims)."

    This is incorrect. Get your facts straight before you write. This error, for one, diminishes whatever point you're trying to make. It is the stuff of rabble-rousing, not reasoned debate.

    Enlighten me with the facts citing references. Here are mine:

    Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) — The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn’t stop him because he was suspected in a convenience-store robbery, but because he was “walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic,” the city’s police chief said Friday.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/

    Michael Brown Robbed Convenience Store, Stole Cigarillos Before Darren Wilson Shooting, Dorian Johnson Says

    http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-brown-robbed-convenience-store-stole-cigarillos-darren-wilson-shooting-dorian-1729359

    Ferguson police say Michael Brown was a robbery suspect, identify Darren Wilson as officer who shot him

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-releasing-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/

    Police: Before Shooting, Brown Robbed Store

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/michael-brown-strong-arm-robbery-657032

    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/what-the-war-on-cops-has-wrought/#comment-811932

    No Duty to Protect: Two Exceptions

    http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=341&issue_id=72004

    Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals

    https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

    Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection
    Most Police Have No Legal Duty to Protect Citizens from Criminal Attack

    http://fee.org/freeman/detail/just-dial-911-the-myth-of-police-protection

    I could cite many more.

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    Hey Cameron, Great comments and superb backup. Some of these commenters are either just stupid or intentionally trying to twist the facts. Keep up the good work.
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  17. There’s an easy way to mend the relationship between the police and the public: increase the psychometric admission requirements for the police academy and break up the Irish and Italian Ellis Island fraternities that dominate some of the larger police departments.

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    If IQ requirements were raised for becoming a police officer there would a decline in the proportion of black police officers. Although raising requirements might be a good idea in itself it would probably be overturned by the courts as discriminatory against blacks and Hispanics.
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  18. @Cameron
    Enlighten me with the facts citing references. Here are mine:

    Ferguson, Missouri (CNN) -- The Ferguson police officer who shot Michael Brown didn't stop him because he was suspected in a convenience-store robbery, but because he was "walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic," the city's police chief said Friday.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/

    Michael Brown Robbed Convenience Store, Stole Cigarillos Before Darren Wilson Shooting, Dorian Johnson Says
    http://www.ibtimes.com/michael-brown-robbed-convenience-store-stole-cigarillos-darren-wilson-shooting-dorian-1729359

    Ferguson police say Michael Brown was a robbery suspect, identify Darren Wilson as officer who shot him
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/15/ferguson-police-releasing-name-of-officer-who-shot-michael-brown/

    Police: Before Shooting, Brown Robbed Store
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/michael-brown-strong-arm-robbery-657032

    Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
    http://www.unz.com/pbuchanan/what-the-war-on-cops-has-wrought/#comment-811932

    No Duty to Protect: Two Exceptions
    http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=341&issue_id=72004

    Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals
    https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

    Just Dial 911? The Myth of Police Protection
    Most Police Have No Legal Duty to Protect Citizens from Criminal Attack
    http://fee.org/freeman/detail/just-dial-911-the-myth-of-police-protection

    I could cite many more.

    Hey Cameron, Great comments and superb backup. Some of these commenters are either just stupid or intentionally trying to twist the facts. Keep up the good work.

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    Thank you, Mr. Klein. I appreciate the support.
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  19. matt says:

    The recent murders aside, cops are generally safer than they have ever been in the history of institutionalized policing. They die on the job less often than taxi drivers and fishermen. On the other hand, cops kill more people than anyone in Canada kills anyone.

    Policing is indeed a dangerous job. But not for the police themselves.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/08/when-will-they-shoot/

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    "cops kill more people than anyone in Canada kills anyone." I'm lost. What does this mean?

    By the way the US white population has crime rates not differing significantly from those of Northwest Europeans.
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  20. Jim says:
    @Riki
    Maybe it is time for US to reflect why there are so many criminals, both in jail and in the streets.
    Crime is a symptom, not a cause. Police is just a symptomatic cure, not a cure.
    it is not so difficult to understand the cause is inequality. A social system which allows to 1% to rip off and rob money to 99% of the population.
    US seems to be going the opposite direction.
    Criminals are going to increase.
    Curfew is the next move to ensure safety?
    1% ultra-mega-rich and 99% living under curfew? With not enough money to eat or live? I would assume 50% of them will be criminals, simply because they will have no choice.
    "Hunger games" seems to be more prophetic then ever

    The problem of crime in the US is very much a racial problem. Negro populations all over the world have high rates of violent crime. This in part due to the fact that Negro populations have low average IQ. Other factors may include the 2-R allele of the MAOA gene which for example has afrequency of .1% in US white males and 5-10% in US black males.

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    @matt
    The recent murders aside, cops are generally safer than they have ever been in the history of institutionalized policing. They die on the job less often than taxi drivers and fishermen. On the other hand, cops kill more people than anyone in Canada kills anyone.

    Policing is indeed a dangerous job. But not for the police themselves.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/08/when-will-they-shoot/

    “cops kill more people than anyone in Canada kills anyone.” I’m lost. What does this mean?

    By the way the US white population has crime rates not differing significantly from those of Northwest Europeans.

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    I’m lost. What does this mean?

    It's very simple.

    "officers acting in the line of duty have killed in the neighborhood of 1,250 to 1,350 people since May 1, 2013. That’s about 1,000 deaths per year."

    On the other hand, in 2012, there were 505 homicides, total, in the entire country of Canada.

    So, American cops kill almost twice as many people as all of the killers in Canada.

    On the other hand, as demonstrated in the link above, American cops die on the job less often than taxi drivers, and only slightly more often than gardeners (not to mention the fact that almost a third of cop deaths are due to "auto accidents" or "air accidents," no doubt a sizable proportion of those being the fault of the officers themselves).

    So you'll excuse me if I demand a little more evidence before I believe that some sort of "war on cops" is afoot.

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  22. Jim says:
    @NeolithicOfficeWorker
    There's an easy way to mend the relationship between the police and the public: increase the psychometric admission requirements for the police academy and break up the Irish and Italian Ellis Island fraternities that dominate some of the larger police departments.

    If IQ requirements were raised for becoming a police officer there would a decline in the proportion of black police officers. Although raising requirements might be a good idea in itself it would probably be overturned by the courts as discriminatory against blacks and Hispanics.

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    You forget, Jim, that we are living in the USSA where insanity rules.

    People With High IQ Can Be Barred From Becoming A Cop
    http://topinfopost.com/2014/08/22/people-with-high-iq-can-be-barred-from-becoming-a-cop

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    High IQ People can be rejected from Joining Police force in US
    http://latesttrickz.com/high-iq-people-can-rejected-joining-police-force-us/
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  23. Cameron says:
    @Aaron Klein
    Hey Cameron, Great comments and superb backup. Some of these commenters are either just stupid or intentionally trying to twist the facts. Keep up the good work.

    Thank you, Mr. Klein. I appreciate the support.

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  24. Truth says:
    @Jefferson
    Left Wingers care more about policing freedom of speech than they do about policing violent street crimes.

    Jefferson says:
    December 23, 2014 at 6:53 am GMT

    Left Wingers care more about policing freedom of speech than they do about policing violent street crimes.

    LMFAO!

    Well imagine that!

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  25. Truth says:
    @Bernard Otway
    After reading this piece and all the others on this issue and it,s bretheren, I looked up Eric Holder,he who calls himself a BLACK man,well I am married to a COLOURED lady from South Africa and there are more than 4.5 million of them here and they are PROUDLY coloured AND refuse to be called BLACK.My wife says she refuses to insult her blood make up by accepting the description BLACK because in her family is Indian ,some negro[Black],a german grandfather AND Bushman KHOI blood,before me she was married to a south african Indian, so her children my step children when asked call themselves COLOURED and identify absolutely as such.In fact the majority of Blacks in the USA are COLOURED,their organisation is called NAACP the C stands for COLOURED .WHY do the likes of Holder have to emphasize the Black,because it gives them power and influence.Mr Holder looks a lot like my brother in law and he is a COLOURED headmaster and Preacher

    (As an aside, why is it that we call our president our first “Black” president, but New York’s mayor’s son is called “Bi-racial and George Zimmerman is called Caucasian?–Slanted characterizations emanating from our news media and politicians which we should ponder.)

    He’s called “America’s second black president”, too.

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    I am married to a COLOURED lady from South Africa and there are more than 4.5 million of them here and they are PROUDLY coloured AND refuse to be called BLACK.My wife says she refuses to insult her blood make up by accepting the description BLACK because in her family is Indian ,some negro[Black],a german grandfather AND Bushman KHOI blood,

    Oh, you married a black chick. Good for you.

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  27. Truth says:

    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

    –Benjamin Franklin

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  28. Cameron says:
    @Jim
    If IQ requirements were raised for becoming a police officer there would a decline in the proportion of black police officers. Although raising requirements might be a good idea in itself it would probably be overturned by the courts as discriminatory against blacks and Hispanics.

    You forget, Jim, that we are living in the USSA where insanity rules.

    People With High IQ Can Be Barred From Becoming A Cop

    http://topinfopost.com/2014/08/22/people-with-high-iq-can-be-barred-from-becoming-a-cop

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    High IQ People can be rejected from Joining Police force in US

    http://latesttrickz.com/high-iq-people-can-rejected-joining-police-force-us/

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    Thank you very much, Cameron, for the links about IQ and the police. Enlightening and frightening.
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  29. @Ozymandias
    I'm surprised to learn that government employees are not considered citizens.

    I’m surprised to learn that government employees are not considered citizens.

    They are government employees not in the military. That makes them civilians. I am not in the employ of the king. That makes me a citizen. Civilians bow the king, citizens do not.

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  30. Old fogey says:
    @Cameron
    You forget, Jim, that we are living in the USSA where insanity rules.

    People With High IQ Can Be Barred From Becoming A Cop
    http://topinfopost.com/2014/08/22/people-with-high-iq-can-be-barred-from-becoming-a-cop

    Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836

    High IQ People can be rejected from Joining Police force in US
    http://latesttrickz.com/high-iq-people-can-rejected-joining-police-force-us/

    Thank you very much, Cameron, for the links about IQ and the police. Enlightening and frightening.

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  31. Svigor says:

    Negro straight up assassinates two cops in NYC for political reasons, and cop-hating leftists/libertardians go on hating cops. Did any of these cop haters go on and on about that, the way they do about cops? Do they complain about rampant negro violent crime?

    Kinda shows what they’re all about. They have an ideological hatred of all authority. It seems more like a mental illness than a real ideology, though.

    Society is hierarchical, oh, boo hoo, poor adolescent me.

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  32. Svigor says:

    One thing I’ve learned about your garden-variety libertardian: he’s no friend of mine. Or anyone else, really. Just himself, and his political pet projects like more drugs, more immigration, more strife, more churn, etc.

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  33. AnAnon says:
    @Cameron
    Your assumption seems to be, If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship, domination, murder, sexual molestation, home invasion by militarized thugs, confiscation of our assets through civil forfeiture laws, endless wars based on lies and everything else associated with tyranny.

    You say, “Police are hired to do a job that needs to get done.” Unfortunately, that job rarely if ever gets done. According to law, the police are under no obligation to protect us; and how often do we hear of police actually preventing crime against individual citizens, rather than arriving on the scene well after a crime has been committed?

    As a recent example, Brown was shot after he robbed the store, and the cop shot him not knowing of the robbery, but in self-defense (or so he claims).

    You say, “Insofar as having too much power that’s pretty much a function of the politics of the state.” And we’re supposed to accept that tenet as a certitude? Do you know nothing about the history of our country? Have you not seen the gradual usurpation of power by the state, slowly wresting freedom from our fellow citizens? If we had so much more freedom in preceding decades and centuries, why does the state need its despotic power over (so-called) free citizens now, and why must we accept this oppression? Instead of allowing the increase of the state’s power over us, why not think more positively and attempt to decrease or eliminate completely state sovereignty?

    Yes, as you say,”A dictatorship will have dictatorial police forces.” You are willing to bow your head, fall to your knees, lick their boots and meekly accept this, thanking them for the goodness of their protection.

    You say, “Supposedly we’ve voted for the politicians who’ve instituted all things Homeland Security.” Yes, supposedly. I didn’t vote, and I would never vote for evil, the only choice we have. If elections really changed things they would be illegal. Anyone who votes thinking that it will make a difference has been asleep since childhood. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Democracy is a system in which two wolves and a sheep decide what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.”

    And Ayn Rand presciently said, “We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.”

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms.   Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you.   May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” --Samuel Adams

    I would advise you to read the novel “1984.” It is the handbook of oppression, studied closely by politicians as the Bible and Koran are studied by religious fanatics. You will learn a lot from George Orwell.

    “If we want to be protected and safe, we have to expect and accept dictatorship” – basically. no free institution will survive multiculturalism, and while we could always ditch the multiculturalism, that isn’t too likely.

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  34. Svigor says:

    I have lots of libertarian tendencies and values myself. Aside from my racial nationalism and race-realism, libertarian values are what most inform my positions.

    It’s unfortunate that libertarians are mostly dog turds. Leftists in libertarian clothing.

    Even their supposed anti-establishment nature is a pose. Never heard one attack the panoply of so-called “anti-discrimination” laws (better described as “anti-freedom” laws) in the US, which aren’t just the opposite of libertarian, but also constitute the most egregious (and vulnerable) violation of libertarian principles. The so-called “rebels” are too busy sucking up to the multicult for that.

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    "Even their supposed anti-establishment nature is a pose. Never heard one attack the panoply of so-called “anti-discrimination” laws (better described as “anti-freedom” laws) in the US, which aren’t just the opposite of libertarian, but also constitute the most egregious (and vulnerable) violation of libertarian principles. The so-called “rebels” are too busy sucking up to the multi cult for that."

    You haven’t heard because you haven’t been listening. Obviously you’ve been too busy flapping that clueless jaw. Spend some time reading LewRockwell.com. There’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.

    There is one statement you are about yourself with which I agree: ". . .oh, boo hoo, poor adolescent me."

    Read a few of these. There are thousands more that contradict you.

    Both Left and Right are Guilty
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/05/walter-e-block/pure-libertarianism/

    You Didn’t Consent to be the State’s Victim
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/06/walter-e-block/dont-be-fooled-about-libertarianism/

    Left and Right; and Libertarianism: Libertarians reject them both
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/walter-e-block/left-and-right/

    Can Inner-City Gangsters Be Stopped?
    Abolish welfare and the minimum wage, and legalize drugs and prostitution
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/walter-e-block/can-inner-city-gangsters-be-stopped/

    Forced Vaccinations
    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/block/block217.html

    Global Warming, Air Pollution and Libertarianism (The problem I have is Global Warming.)
    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/block/block195.html

    Obama vs. Us
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/walter-e-williams/is-el-supremo-incompetent/

    Officially Killing Americans
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/walter-e-williams/the-deadly-fda/
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  35. matt says:
    @Jim
    "cops kill more people than anyone in Canada kills anyone." I'm lost. What does this mean?

    By the way the US white population has crime rates not differing significantly from those of Northwest Europeans.

    I’m lost. What does this mean?

    It’s very simple.

    “officers acting in the line of duty have killed in the neighborhood of 1,250 to 1,350 people since May 1, 2013. That’s about 1,000 deaths per year.

    On the other hand, in 2012, there were 505 homicides, total, in the entire country of Canada.

    So, American cops kill almost twice as many people as all of the killers in Canada.

    On the other hand, as demonstrated in the link above, American cops die on the job less often than taxi drivers, and only slightly more often than gardeners (not to mention the fact that almost a third of cop deaths are due to “auto accidents” or “air accidents,” no doubt a sizable proportion of those being the fault of the officers themselves).

    So you’ll excuse me if I demand a little more evidence before I believe that some sort of “war on cops” is afoot.

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  36. Truth says:

    One thing I’ve learned about your garden-variety libertardian: he’s no friend of mine.

    Just to clarify, Sviggy; is anyone any friend of yours?

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  37. @Svigor
    I have lots of libertarian tendencies and values myself. Aside from my racial nationalism and race-realism, libertarian values are what most inform my positions.

    It's unfortunate that libertarians are mostly dog turds. Leftists in libertarian clothing.

    Even their supposed anti-establishment nature is a pose. Never heard one attack the panoply of so-called "anti-discrimination" laws (better described as "anti-freedom" laws) in the US, which aren't just the opposite of libertarian, but also constitute the most egregious (and vulnerable) violation of libertarian principles. The so-called "rebels" are too busy sucking up to the multicult for that.

    “Even their supposed anti-establishment nature is a pose. Never heard one attack the panoply of so-called “anti-discrimination” laws (better described as “anti-freedom” laws) in the US, which aren’t just the opposite of libertarian, but also constitute the most egregious (and vulnerable) violation of libertarian principles. The so-called “rebels” are too busy sucking up to the multi cult for that.”

    You haven’t heard because you haven’t been listening. Obviously you’ve been too busy flapping that clueless jaw. Spend some time reading LewRockwell.com. There’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.

    There is one statement you are about yourself with which I agree: “. . .oh, boo hoo, poor adolescent me.”

    Read a few of these. There are thousands more that contradict you.

    Both Left and Right are Guilty

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/05/walter-e-block/pure-libertarianism/

    You Didn’t Consent to be the State’s Victim

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/06/walter-e-block/dont-be-fooled-about-libertarianism/

    Left and Right; and Libertarianism: Libertarians reject them both

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/walter-e-block/left-and-right/

    Can Inner-City Gangsters Be Stopped?
    Abolish welfare and the minimum wage, and legalize drugs and prostitution

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/walter-e-block/can-inner-city-gangsters-be-stopped/

    Forced Vaccinations

    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/block/block217.html

    Global Warming, Air Pollution and Libertarianism (The problem I have is Global Warming.)

    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/block/block195.html

    Obama vs. Us

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/11/walter-e-williams/is-el-supremo-incompetent/

    Officially Killing Americans

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/walter-e-williams/the-deadly-fda/

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  38. Truth says:

    here’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.

    Wow, Svigor, that was withering. It was so bad it almost made me come to your aid!

    Somehow I caught myself.

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  39. Svigor says:

    You haven’t heard because you haven’t been listening. Obviously you’ve been too busy flapping that clueless jaw. Spend some time reading LewRockwell.com. There’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.

    Okay, there’s Lew, with some articles from the 18th century, or whatever. Where are the boots on the ground?

    I can find more conservatives who have opposed the “anti-discrimination” state.

    Face it, libertarians are leftist pussies these days.

    Wow, Svigor, that was withering. It was so bad it almost made me come to your aid!

    Somehow I caught myself.

    And here I thought we were friends! But, you’ll always have the libertarians…

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    So you've never heard of "Reason," "The Daily Bell," "Bionic Mosquito," Coyote Blog," "Antiwar.com," Jon Rappoport, Alex Jones, Mises Institute, Pro Libertate, Daisy Luther among so many others. I was right: All you know how to do is flap your jaw and puke out misinformation.

    "Where are the boots on the ground?"
    There haven't been enough wars, maimings, killings and general misery. You want more, even wars here at home. No one cons you like a neo-con.

    Since light travels faster than sound, some people like you sometimes appear bright until one hears you speak.
    , @Pro-freedom
    "It’s unfortunate that libertarians are mostly dog turds. Leftists in libertarian clothing."

    Try this short anti-leftist blog from a well-known libertarian on for size from TODAY's LewRockwell.com.

    "Leftism Is A Religion
    By Charles Burris
    Leftism is indeed a religion. No less an authority than Murray N. Rothbard has detailed its sinister lineage in five articles of interest to LRC readers: Karl Marx as Religious Eschatologist, Messianic Communism in the Protestant Reformation, The Menace of the Religious Left, Saint Hillary and the Religious Left, and Origins of the Welfare State in America. Those seeking more authoritative scholarly background studies on this topic should consult these Amazon book lists: Utopian Nightmares and Gnostic Political Religions; and The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, Illuminism, & the Religion of Humanity."

    Or this longer article from today's LRC
    “Pinkos produce red ink.”
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/gary-north/pinkos-produce-red-ink/

    Or this one from today's Prolibertate
    “Law-and-Order Leninism”
    http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com

    I think it's time you stopped pissing on yourself and crawled back into your hole and resumed sucking your thumb. It's the most productive behavior of which you're capable.
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  40. @Svigor

    You haven’t heard because you haven’t been listening. Obviously you’ve been too busy flapping that clueless jaw. Spend some time reading LewRockwell.com. There’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.
     
    Okay, there's Lew, with some articles from the 18th century, or whatever. Where are the boots on the ground?

    I can find more conservatives who have opposed the "anti-discrimination" state.

    Face it, libertarians are leftist pussies these days.


    Wow, Svigor, that was withering. It was so bad it almost made me come to your aid!

    Somehow I caught myself.
     

    And here I thought we were friends! But, you'll always have the libertarians...

    So you’ve never heard of “Reason,” “The Daily Bell,” “Bionic Mosquito,” Coyote Blog,” “Antiwar.com,” Jon Rappoport, Alex Jones, Mises Institute, Pro Libertate, Daisy Luther among so many others. I was right: All you know how to do is flap your jaw and puke out misinformation.

    “Where are the boots on the ground?”
    There haven’t been enough wars, maimings, killings and general misery. You want more, even wars here at home. No one cons you like a neo-con.

    Since light travels faster than sound, some people like you sometimes appear bright until one hears you speak.

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  41. @Svigor

    You haven’t heard because you haven’t been listening. Obviously you’ve been too busy flapping that clueless jaw. Spend some time reading LewRockwell.com. There’s no doubt you’ll learn a lot since at the moment that empty cranium of yours has a lot of room to be filled. You’ll be amazed at how that pea inside will enlarge to fill the vacuum.
     
    Okay, there's Lew, with some articles from the 18th century, or whatever. Where are the boots on the ground?

    I can find more conservatives who have opposed the "anti-discrimination" state.

    Face it, libertarians are leftist pussies these days.


    Wow, Svigor, that was withering. It was so bad it almost made me come to your aid!

    Somehow I caught myself.
     

    And here I thought we were friends! But, you'll always have the libertarians...

    “It’s unfortunate that libertarians are mostly dog turds. Leftists in libertarian clothing.”

    Try this short anti-leftist blog from a well-known libertarian on for size from TODAY’s LewRockwell.com.

    “Leftism Is A Religion
    By Charles Burris
    Leftism is indeed a religion. No less an authority than Murray N. Rothbard has detailed its sinister lineage in five articles of interest to LRC readers: Karl Marx as Religious Eschatologist, Messianic Communism in the Protestant Reformation, The Menace of the Religious Left, Saint Hillary and the Religious Left, and Origins of the Welfare State in America. Those seeking more authoritative scholarly background studies on this topic should consult these Amazon book lists: Utopian Nightmares and Gnostic Political Religions; and The Enlightenment, Freemasonry, Illuminism, & the Religion of Humanity.”

    Or this longer article from today’s LRC
    “Pinkos produce red ink.”

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/gary-north/pinkos-produce-red-ink/

    Or this one from today’s Prolibertate
    “Law-and-Order Leninism”

    http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com

    I think it’s time you stopped pissing on yourself and crawled back into your hole and resumed sucking your thumb. It’s the most productive behavior of which you’re capable.

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  42. Svigor says:

    I didn’t ask you for implausible assertions from leftists that they aren’t leftists. If we waited on most leftists to admit they’re leftists, we wouldn’t get anything done. I asked for libertardians who oppose the “anti-discrimination” state. I guess your “look a squirrel” response is answer enough.

    P.S., you seem to have totally missed what I meant by boots on the ground.

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  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Libertardians are overwhelmingly pro-open-borders, too. Articles from a couple of libertardians who aren’t won’t change that, either.

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  44. Svigor says:

    Just look at the most prominent libertardian pols in the last however many years, the Paul clan. They’re on Team Brown/Gardner, they’re open-borders, they whine about downtrodden blacks and plucky Mexicans. No, nothing leftist about that…

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    We don't want the libertarians either. They want to replace at least somewhat democratically accountable cops with Pinkerton-style private goons.
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  45. matt says:
    @Svigor
    Just look at the most prominent libertardian pols in the last however many years, the Paul clan. They're on Team Brown/Gardner, they're open-borders, they whine about downtrodden blacks and plucky Mexicans. No, nothing leftist about that...

    We don’t want the libertarians either. They want to replace at least somewhat democratically accountable cops with Pinkerton-style private goons.

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    Democratically accountable cops?

    Give me some examples.

    Your neo-con jaws don't stop flapping. You're never too old to spout something stupid.
    , @Cameron
    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have stolen money from innocent people through civil asset forfeiture laws in the last 10 years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have been caught lying in court in the past 10 years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have sexually molested innocent men and women in the last ten years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have beaten up innocent people in the last ten years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have killed innocent people in the last ten years?

    It would help if you activated the few neurons you have before opening your mouth. Nihilo ex nihilo fit--Out of nothing, nothing comes.
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  46. @matt
    We don't want the libertarians either. They want to replace at least somewhat democratically accountable cops with Pinkerton-style private goons.

    Democratically accountable cops?

    Give me some examples.

    Your neo-con jaws don’t stop flapping. You’re never too old to spout something stupid.

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    I said somewhat democratically accountable. I'm not a fan of the cops. You'd know that if you read my comments further up. I'm not a neocon either; I'm a dyed-in-the-wool pinko.
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  47. Cameron says:
    @matt
    We don't want the libertarians either. They want to replace at least somewhat democratically accountable cops with Pinkerton-style private goons.

    How many “Pinkerton-style private goons” have stolen money from innocent people through civil asset forfeiture laws in the last 10 years?

    How many “Pinkerton-style private goons” have been caught lying in court in the past 10 years?

    How many “Pinkerton-style private goons” have sexually molested innocent men and women in the last ten years?

    How many “Pinkerton-style private goons” have beaten up innocent people in the last ten years?

    How many “Pinkerton-style private goons” have killed innocent people in the last ten years?

    It would help if you activated the few neurons you have before opening your mouth. Nihilo ex nihilo fit–Out of nothing, nothing comes.

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    In our country, capital mostly doesn't need to hire private goons to carry out repression. They have the police to do that for them.

    In other countries, Pinkerton-style private goons murder people all the time.

    The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there's a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses. Under your utopia, we wouldn't even have that.
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  48. matt says:
    @Pro-freedom
    Democratically accountable cops?

    Give me some examples.

    Your neo-con jaws don't stop flapping. You're never too old to spout something stupid.

    I said somewhat democratically accountable. I’m not a fan of the cops. You’d know that if you read my comments further up. I’m not a neocon either; I’m a dyed-in-the-wool pinko.

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    "I’m not a neocon either; I’m a dyed-in-the-wool pinko."

    There's not much difference. You both worship the state, with control of the individual as your goals. There's no love of freedom, nor awareness what true freedom means.
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  49. matt says:
    @Cameron
    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have stolen money from innocent people through civil asset forfeiture laws in the last 10 years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have been caught lying in court in the past 10 years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have sexually molested innocent men and women in the last ten years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have beaten up innocent people in the last ten years?

    How many "Pinkerton-style private goons" have killed innocent people in the last ten years?

    It would help if you activated the few neurons you have before opening your mouth. Nihilo ex nihilo fit--Out of nothing, nothing comes.

    In our country, capital mostly doesn’t need to hire private goons to carry out repression. They have the police to do that for them.

    In other countries, Pinkerton-style private goons murder people all the time.

    The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there’s a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses. Under your utopia, we wouldn’t even have that.

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    Once more we find experts like you claiming that people who believe that there is a good alternative to government oppression believe that the alternative is a Utopia. A better society does not mean a perfect society and Libertarians never even hinted at that possibility. Perfection doesn’t exist. Enormous improvement can be achieved.

    You say, “In our country, capital mostly doesn’t need to hire private goons to carry out repression.”

    Walk into any large business and you will find private security guards protecting the premises. These people, men and women, can not be characterized as goons. I have never seen one of them assault a patron. As a matter of fact, there would be no need for them if police carried out their function for which we pay them but for which they deny responsibility--protection. Private security does protect; police always come after the assault. Your characterization of private security as goons reveals a blind prejudice, somewhat characteristic of the bigotry of various sorts so manifest on this web site.

    You talk about other countries. I am concerned with this country which has enough problems to be attentive to; we need not tell other countries how to run their societies until we attain here the Utopia that you want. You’ll have a very long wait.

    You say, “The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there’s a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses.”

    When have the police been held accountable? How many of the police have been indicted for their endless crimes, let alone been found guilt? Please tell me; I will wait for an answer. Where is that sliver you talk about? On the other hand I am quite sure that private security guards have a much better likelihood of being indicted and found guiltyy if they commit a crime. But it is rare that they commit crimes. It means loss of a job and incarceration if they do. When police commit crimes they get long, paid vacations, and often they get promoted.

    Libertarians have one and only one principle--the Non-Aggression Principle. No aggression is acceptable for any reason EXCEPT IN SELF-DEFENSE. There is no Utopia ever mentioned or suggested. Everyone is left to his or her own morality, a morality governed only by the NAP.

    So many of you neocons lie about Libertarianism that it is really sickening. Most of you resort to ad hominem attacks when you’re left with only blanks in you ammunition boxes. Your answer to everything, just like your counterparts on the left, is big and then bigger government. There is little difference between left and right in this country. The left just enlarges government a little faster than you do and often on different pet projects. When is the last time that you neocons shrank big government even when you controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress? NEVER. Government keeps growing bigger and more oppressive whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power.

    Since the beginning of recorded history, the business of government has been wealth confiscation. It continues: Immediately, as the Republicans won their huge victory this fall, John Boehner went back on his promises and passed the record-breaking budget, cooperating fully with his leftist cohorts.

    When did you war mongers ever find a war you didn’t like? When you have no enemies, you invent them, as you just did with Russia. When I say “you” I mean you and Obama. There’s no difference.

    The only thing you’re capable of is empty rhetoric and flights of fancy while attacking with lies the only people who actually try to shrink government. You are all just bags of smelly wind.
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  50. Cameron says:
    @matt
    In our country, capital mostly doesn't need to hire private goons to carry out repression. They have the police to do that for them.

    In other countries, Pinkerton-style private goons murder people all the time.

    The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there's a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses. Under your utopia, we wouldn't even have that.

    Once more we find experts like you claiming that people who believe that there is a good alternative to government oppression believe that the alternative is a Utopia. A better society does not mean a perfect society and Libertarians never even hinted at that possibility. Perfection doesn’t exist. Enormous improvement can be achieved.

    You say, “In our country, capital mostly doesn’t need to hire private goons to carry out repression.”

    Walk into any large business and you will find private security guards protecting the premises. These people, men and women, can not be characterized as goons. I have never seen one of them assault a patron. As a matter of fact, there would be no need for them if police carried out their function for which we pay them but for which they deny responsibility–protection. Private security does protect; police always come after the assault. Your characterization of private security as goons reveals a blind prejudice, somewhat characteristic of the bigotry of various sorts so manifest on this web site.

    You talk about other countries. I am concerned with this country which has enough problems to be attentive to; we need not tell other countries how to run their societies until we attain here the Utopia that you want. You’ll have a very long wait.

    You say, “The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there’s a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses.”

    When have the police been held accountable? How many of the police have been indicted for their endless crimes, let alone been found guilt? Please tell me; I will wait for an answer. Where is that sliver you talk about? On the other hand I am quite sure that private security guards have a much better likelihood of being indicted and found guiltyy if they commit a crime. But it is rare that they commit crimes. It means loss of a job and incarceration if they do. When police commit crimes they get long, paid vacations, and often they get promoted.

    Libertarians have one and only one principle–the Non-Aggression Principle. No aggression is acceptable for any reason EXCEPT IN SELF-DEFENSE. There is no Utopia ever mentioned or suggested. Everyone is left to his or her own morality, a morality governed only by the NAP.

    So many of you neocons lie about Libertarianism that it is really sickening. Most of you resort to ad hominem attacks when you’re left with only blanks in you ammunition boxes. Your answer to everything, just like your counterparts on the left, is big and then bigger government. There is little difference between left and right in this country. The left just enlarges government a little faster than you do and often on different pet projects. When is the last time that you neocons shrank big government even when you controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress? NEVER. Government keeps growing bigger and more oppressive whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power.

    Since the beginning of recorded history, the business of government has been wealth confiscation. It continues: Immediately, as the Republicans won their huge victory this fall, John Boehner went back on his promises and passed the record-breaking budget, cooperating fully with his leftist cohorts.

    When did you war mongers ever find a war you didn’t like? When you have no enemies, you invent them, as you just did with Russia. When I say “you” I mean you and Obama. There’s no difference.

    The only thing you’re capable of is empty rhetoric and flights of fancy while attacking with lies the only people who actually try to shrink government. You are all just bags of smelly wind.

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    You are really unhinged. Why do you keep calling me a neocon after I just called myself a "dyed-in-the-wool pinko"? I am a socialist, and I'm not a fan of Barack Obama either, especially not his foreign policy and warmongering toward Russia.
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  51. matt says:
    @Cameron
    Once more we find experts like you claiming that people who believe that there is a good alternative to government oppression believe that the alternative is a Utopia. A better society does not mean a perfect society and Libertarians never even hinted at that possibility. Perfection doesn’t exist. Enormous improvement can be achieved.

    You say, “In our country, capital mostly doesn’t need to hire private goons to carry out repression.”

    Walk into any large business and you will find private security guards protecting the premises. These people, men and women, can not be characterized as goons. I have never seen one of them assault a patron. As a matter of fact, there would be no need for them if police carried out their function for which we pay them but for which they deny responsibility--protection. Private security does protect; police always come after the assault. Your characterization of private security as goons reveals a blind prejudice, somewhat characteristic of the bigotry of various sorts so manifest on this web site.

    You talk about other countries. I am concerned with this country which has enough problems to be attentive to; we need not tell other countries how to run their societies until we attain here the Utopia that you want. You’ll have a very long wait.

    You say, “The difference is that here, because the police work for a democratically elected government, there’s a small sliver of a chance that the people can hold them accountable and put some kind of a check on their routine abuses.”

    When have the police been held accountable? How many of the police have been indicted for their endless crimes, let alone been found guilt? Please tell me; I will wait for an answer. Where is that sliver you talk about? On the other hand I am quite sure that private security guards have a much better likelihood of being indicted and found guiltyy if they commit a crime. But it is rare that they commit crimes. It means loss of a job and incarceration if they do. When police commit crimes they get long, paid vacations, and often they get promoted.

    Libertarians have one and only one principle--the Non-Aggression Principle. No aggression is acceptable for any reason EXCEPT IN SELF-DEFENSE. There is no Utopia ever mentioned or suggested. Everyone is left to his or her own morality, a morality governed only by the NAP.

    So many of you neocons lie about Libertarianism that it is really sickening. Most of you resort to ad hominem attacks when you’re left with only blanks in you ammunition boxes. Your answer to everything, just like your counterparts on the left, is big and then bigger government. There is little difference between left and right in this country. The left just enlarges government a little faster than you do and often on different pet projects. When is the last time that you neocons shrank big government even when you controlled the presidency and both houses of Congress? NEVER. Government keeps growing bigger and more oppressive whether the Republicans or Democrats are in power.

    Since the beginning of recorded history, the business of government has been wealth confiscation. It continues: Immediately, as the Republicans won their huge victory this fall, John Boehner went back on his promises and passed the record-breaking budget, cooperating fully with his leftist cohorts.

    When did you war mongers ever find a war you didn’t like? When you have no enemies, you invent them, as you just did with Russia. When I say “you” I mean you and Obama. There’s no difference.

    The only thing you’re capable of is empty rhetoric and flights of fancy while attacking with lies the only people who actually try to shrink government. You are all just bags of smelly wind.

    You are really unhinged. Why do you keep calling me a neocon after I just called myself a “dyed-in-the-wool pinko”? I am a socialist, and I’m not a fan of Barack Obama either, especially not his foreign policy and warmongering toward Russia.

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    There's little difference between socialists and neocons when it comes to methodology. You both believe in unbridled coercion from the state to achieve your goals. You both have no idea what freedom means. Aggression against free, non-aggressive, non-hostile individual behavior is your byword.

    Is there any doubt as to why you both sometimes seem indistinguishable?
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  52. Truth says:

    Cameron, Matt, Svigor, Pro-Freedom one of you guys please alert me when you come to a consensus as to whom, exactly is the lefty.

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    I'm basically begging to be the lefty, but no one is letting me be it. What do I have to do to get labeled as the commie? Liquidate some kulaks?

    By the way, here's Mark Ames on why libertarians' opposition to the police state is a fraud.
    , @Cameron
    I know Peo-freedom personally. He and I are both Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalists. We both believe that nothing good comes out of the state. The Non-Aggression Principle is our guide. Where did you get the idea that either of us resembles lefty?

    I read LRC six days/week, as well as other libertarian sites. I hope that clears things up with you.
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  53. matt says:
    @Truth
    Cameron, Matt, Svigor, Pro-Freedom one of you guys please alert me when you come to a consensus as to whom, exactly is the lefty.

    I’m basically begging to be the lefty, but no one is letting me be it. What do I have to do to get labeled as the commie? Liquidate some kulaks?

    By the way, here’s Mark Ames on why libertarians’ opposition to the police state is a fraud.

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    “By the way, here’s Mark Ames on why libertarians’ opposition to the police state is a fraud.”

    The only thing fraudulent here is Ames' assertion in your statement itself.

    Mark Ames should know better, and probably does know better, but knowing better doesn’t make one honest when one wants to make a false claim. After all, socialists claim they want to better humanity, but all of their policies do nothing but make the world a worse place to live in. As only one of a multitude of examples, just look what has been happening to our own country as noxious socialism/fascism has become more pervasive and any capitalism that we once had has evaporated.

    There are many who assert they are libertarians but are not. Cato and the Koch brothers, cited by Ames, claim to be libertarian but certainly are not. Rand Paul, although the son of a libertarian does not claim to be one. “Reason” has libertarian tendencies, but is not strictly libertarian. Anyone can claim to be anything, but the assertions are meaningless when the claimant is a fraud.

    I notice that when a critic of libertarianism wants to prove how un-libertarian the philosophy actually is, the critic absolutely never mentions strict libertarians, The Mises Institute, LewRockwell.com or any of the two sites’ many intellectual authors. There’s a very good reason for that--the hypocrisy of the critic, of whom Mark Ames is one.

    I’ll never understand why people like you actually brag that you’re a “lefty” given that socialism has caused poverty and misery, and increasingly has destroyed liberty. Our police state is a product of a combination of socialist/fascist policies. You really should try to hide in the shadows.

    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery."
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  54. @matt
    I said somewhat democratically accountable. I'm not a fan of the cops. You'd know that if you read my comments further up. I'm not a neocon either; I'm a dyed-in-the-wool pinko.

    “I’m not a neocon either; I’m a dyed-in-the-wool pinko.”

    There’s not much difference. You both worship the state, with control of the individual as your goals. There’s no love of freedom, nor awareness what true freedom means.

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  55. Cameron says:
    @Truth
    Cameron, Matt, Svigor, Pro-Freedom one of you guys please alert me when you come to a consensus as to whom, exactly is the lefty.

    I know Peo-freedom personally. He and I are both Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalists. We both believe that nothing good comes out of the state. The Non-Aggression Principle is our guide. Where did you get the idea that either of us resembles lefty?

    I read LRC six days/week, as well as other libertarian sites. I hope that clears things up with you.

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  56. Cameron says:
    @matt
    You are really unhinged. Why do you keep calling me a neocon after I just called myself a "dyed-in-the-wool pinko"? I am a socialist, and I'm not a fan of Barack Obama either, especially not his foreign policy and warmongering toward Russia.

    There’s little difference between socialists and neocons when it comes to methodology. You both believe in unbridled coercion from the state to achieve your goals. You both have no idea what freedom means. Aggression against free, non-aggressive, non-hostile individual behavior is your byword.

    Is there any doubt as to why you both sometimes seem indistinguishable?

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  57. @matt
    I'm basically begging to be the lefty, but no one is letting me be it. What do I have to do to get labeled as the commie? Liquidate some kulaks?

    By the way, here's Mark Ames on why libertarians' opposition to the police state is a fraud.

    “By the way, here’s Mark Ames on why libertarians’ opposition to the police state is a fraud.”

    The only thing fraudulent here is Ames’ assertion in your statement itself.

    Mark Ames should know better, and probably does know better, but knowing better doesn’t make one honest when one wants to make a false claim. After all, socialists claim they want to better humanity, but all of their policies do nothing but make the world a worse place to live in. As only one of a multitude of examples, just look what has been happening to our own country as noxious socialism/fascism has become more pervasive and any capitalism that we once had has evaporated.

    There are many who assert they are libertarians but are not. Cato and the Koch brothers, cited by Ames, claim to be libertarian but certainly are not. Rand Paul, although the son of a libertarian does not claim to be one. “Reason” has libertarian tendencies, but is not strictly libertarian. Anyone can claim to be anything, but the assertions are meaningless when the claimant is a fraud.

    I notice that when a critic of libertarianism wants to prove how un-libertarian the philosophy actually is, the critic absolutely never mentions strict libertarians, The Mises Institute, LewRockwell.com or any of the two sites’ many intellectual authors. There’s a very good reason for that–the hypocrisy of the critic, of whom Mark Ames is one.

    I’ll never understand why people like you actually brag that you’re a “lefty” given that socialism has caused poverty and misery, and increasingly has destroyed liberty. Our police state is a product of a combination of socialist/fascist policies. You really should try to hide in the shadows.

    “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, while the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”

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