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To manifest his opposition to President Donald Trump’s decision to pull all 2,000 U.S. troops out of Syria, and half of the 14,000 in Afghanistan, Gen. James Mattis went public and resigned as secretary of defense.

Now Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, in public testimony to Congress, has contradicted Trump about the threats that face the nation.

Contrary to what the president believes, Coats says, North Korea is unlikely to give up its nuclear weapons. ISIS remains a serious threat, even if the caliphate has been rolled up. And there is no evidence that Iran, though hostile and aggressive, is acquiring nuclear weapons.

CIA Director Gina Haspel agreed: Iran remains in compliance with the nuclear treaty that Trump has trashed and abandoned. The treaty is still doing what it was designed to do.

At this perceived public defiance, Trump exploded:

“The Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong! … They [the Iranians] are testing Rockets (last week), and more, and are coming very close to the edge. … Be careful of Iran.”

Trump added: “Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!”

Trump then brought up the epochal blunder of U.S. intelligence in backing the Bush II claim that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction (a “slam dunk”), and was a grave threat to the USA.

Born of incompetence and mendacity, that counsel led to the greatest strategic blunder of the 21st century, if not of U.S. history — the second Iraq War. Launched by George W. Bush, this invasion plunged us into the Middle East’s forever war and got the Republican Party ejected from power in 2006 and 2008.

While it’s not unusual for a president and the intel community to diverge on the gravity of threats, what is astonishing is that the intel leaders would declare a president to be flat-out wrong.

Yet the confrontation is not unhealthy, for it reflects reality. On foreign policy, we are divided not only on means but ends.

And the division calls to mind Walter Lippmann’s words, after U.S. political clashes and unpreparedness in FDR’s New Deal decade led to the early disasters at Pearl Harbor, Bataan and Corregidor.

“For nearly fifty years,” wrote the dean of American columnists, “the nation had not had a settled and generally accepted foreign policy. This is a danger to the Republic. For when a people is divided … about the conduct of its foreign relations, it is unable to agree on the determination of its true interest. It is unable to prepare adequately for war or to safeguard successfully its peace.”

We seem to be in just such a situation today.

Indeed, Trump is president because of the foreign policy disasters produced by his predecessors, who leaned on the U.S. intel community, and because Trump, in 2016, appeared to read the nation right.

Yet there is common ground between Trump and the spy chiefs.

Coats and Haspel are correct that the U.S. faces a Russia and China that are closer and more collaborative than they have been since the 1950s, before the Cuban missile crisis, which Mao saw as a Moscow capitulation.

And as we have more in common with Russia, with its historic ties to the West, and Russia appears by far the lesser long-term threat, how do we split Russia off from China? Here, Trump’s instincts are right and the Beltway Russophobes are wrong.

As for Iran, the intelligence community is consistent.

ORDER IT NOW

In 2007 and 2011, the CIA declared “with high confidence” that Iran had no nuclear weapons program. Now, with U.N. inspectors crawling all over Tehran’s nuclear facilities under the treaty, the CIA and DNI are still saying the same thing.
What of the contention that Iran is seeking hegemony in the Middle East?

Really? How? Would a nuclear-armed Israel, which has launched 200 strikes on Iran’s allies in Syria, accept that? What would Turkey, with the second-largest army in NATO, Egypt, the largest Arab nation, and Saudi Arabia have to say about that?

How could Shiite Iran, whose Persian majority is nearly matched by its Arab, Azeri, Baloch and Kurdish minorities, gain dominance over a Middle East where the vast majority is Sunni Arab? How is Iran a threat to us over here, compared to the threat we pose to Iran over there?

Iran broke out of its isolation for two reasons. First, George W. Bush came in and overthrew its Taliban enemies on its eastern border, and then he overthrew Saddam Hussein, the enemy on its western border.

As Trump contends, ISIS has been defeated and driven from its twin capitals — Raqqa in Syria and Mosul in Iraq. But it is also true that ISIS and al-Qaida still have tens of thousands of jihadists living among the peoples of the Middle East.
And the great question remains:

Are U.S. troops necessary over there — to prevent terrorists from coming over here? Or are they over here — because we are over there?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019 Creators.com.

 
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  1. A123 says:

    This is largely a creation of the Fake Stream Media.

    — The JCPOA exited by President Trump allowed Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
    — The Intelligence witness stated, “Iran is in technical compliance” with JCPOA.

    There is no contradiction, Iran is developing weapons as allowed by JCPOA.

    Do not believe anything from CNN or MSNBC. They are paid to lie….

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    , @Sowhat
  2. The intelligence heads were pretty clear about Iran. They not only said that Iran was in “technical compliance” but also that it had made no moves to develop nuclear weapons technology. Ballistic missiles are another matter, but they were not included in the JCPOA.

    The US didn’t fight Saddam until it had weakened him with the sanctions. This is the same plan for Iran. The Iranians know, and it remains to be seen whether or not they will be able to find a way to convincingly beat the sanctions. I wouldn’t count them out just yet – they are very ingenious.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  3. Anon[147] • Disclaimer says:

    Bottom line, America needs another war like we need a hole in the head.

    Leave Syria now. And leave Iran the heck alone.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    , @follyofwar
  4. President Trump is not in charge anymore. No matter what he decides, he is contradicted either by his cabinet members or the intelligence chiefs. Besides his anti-Iranian stance during the primaries, he now has a security adviser who is not only obsessed with Iran but does Israel’s bidding also. Bolton is Netanyahu’s extension in the White House. Secretary of State Pompeo is another anti-Iranian hawk. The other anti-Iran hawk and warmonger, Elliot Abrams, who is formally responsible for the overthrow of the Maduro regime in Venezuela, has not only a criminal record but does also Israel’s bidding.
    Iran is in absolute compliance with the so-called nuclear deal, the party which is defaulting, unreliable and untrustworthy is the United States. No one should ever trust the US administration, especially not Russia, which was misled since the early 1990s when NATO expanded to the Russian border. The latest example was the US instigated coup in Ukraine.
    Iran has not threatened the US. The other way around makes sense. Remember Hillary Clinton’s obliteration threat, warmonger John McCain’s “song” Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran! And the threats against Iran on a daily basis by different US officials, the Ziocon pundits, and the mainstream media rascals.
    It would be a deadly mistake to attack Iran. If that happens, at the latest then the presence of US troops in the region will be unbearable for the poor servicemen. Thus, the American people should be vigilant not to be pushed into a military confrontation by Israel, John Bolton and their ilk. If Netanyahu and the assassin-in-chief, Mohammed bin Salman from Saudi Arabia, want to attack Iran they should do it alone. At the latest then, the Saudi dictatorship will go down the drain.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Floda
  5. @TimeTraveller

    “The US didn’t fight Saddam until it had weakened him with the sanctions.”

    Which still begs the question, “Why?” What was the national interest for the US? Same goes for Iran.

    • Replies: @TimeTraveller
  6. “Who’s right?” you ask Pat?

    Er – Israel? They appear to have taken over the President.

    Why don’t you mention it?

  7. KenH says:

    how do we split Russia off from China?

    We could start by rescinding all sanctions and pulling troops out of Poland and anti-ballistic missile batteries out of Eastern Europe. But Israel and their domestic lobby will never allow that and for all of Trump’s chest beating he’s largely done Israel’s bidding since taking office.

  8. @Anon

    I’m sorry to disagree but America really does need another war, one against those who actually do represent a very real threat. A war against those who had the audacity to kill a president and the means to cover it up. A war against those behind the September 11 attacks and those who pushed for the ruinous wars that have followed.

    The war I refer to would not be too difficult since the names of many of the enemy are already known and they can be easily located in DC, NY and LA especially. Since those whom I am referring to have already endorsed torture it shouldn’t be too hard to determine from them who are their co-conspirators either. Of course it would require some action from real patriots with brains and real balls, perhaps in the military, but I’m unsure if there are enough of those.

    Anyway, IMHO, that’s the kind of war America really does need, and badly.

  9. Realist says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    President Trump is not in charge anymore.

    That’s bullshit. Trump can hire and fire anyone who works for him. Trump is a Deep Stater which explains his hiring and firing action.

    • Agree: bluedog
    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @follyofwar
  10. The art of lying is telling a very fat lie and saying things exactly upside down

    if you are a bellicose and bloodthirsty Nuclear Power of the Middle East you say that the neighbor (Irak) has “weapons of mass destruction” that threaten California

    it is the genre of Comedy that dominates in the American MSM

    Iran lives under the constant threat of being attacked by the two thugs of this planet

    someone said that the American ruling class considers that a disobedience is an “aggression”, and indeed it is: if the servant dares to raise his hand to protect his skull from the blows of his lord will receive more sticks, yes: all the Imperial brutality from the monstrosity of Vietnam (inherited from the arrogant French empire) is adorned with words, silences, lies and stories for children and Bedouins

  11. @The Alarmist

    There isn’t any “national interest” in either Iraq or Iran if you define “national interest” as what is good for the majority of US citizens. If you define it as being what is in the interests of the imperial plutocracy, serial wars for the purpose of regime change make sense.

    • Agree: The Alarmist
  12. So, Paddy’s description of Walter Lippman as “the dean of American columnists,”
    Naturally led (aided by a suspicion that he might be of the Hebraic persuasion) to a quick scan as to how big and deeply buried a liar he was.

    https://www.winterwatch.net/2018/11/walter-lippmann-warmongering-big-capitalist-hack-and-jewish-anglo-agent/

    Go thou and do likewise.

  13. @A123

    The Bullshit from you warmongers never ends, does it?

    Iran does not and never has had a nuclear weapons program.

    Start here
    https://www.takimag.com/article/the_fake_iranian_crisis/

    from close on a decade ago and follow up on the Giraldi references.

    What will it take to expunge the neocon filth?

    • Replies: @Sowhat
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  14. Renoman says:

    Of course Iran wants nuclear bombs who in their right mind doesn’t? It’s the only way to get the Americans and the Jews to piss off. Just like everyone else they won’t use them so why be concerned? Nobody’ jumping about Pakistan which is far more volatile than Iran. Iran hasn’t bothered a neighbor in hundreds of years. Go home and pave the roads don’t be so paranoid and quit taking orders from the Jews they are the nuttiest of them all and they HAVE the the bomb!

  15. @Anon

    It becomes more and more evident each day that Mr. Trump, on foreign affairs anyway, has NO IDEA what he is doing. Thus he represents a grave danger to the world. The US-created Venezuelan crisis is showing how out of touch he, and top advisors Pompeo/Bolton are.

    Trump has been stone cold crazy about Iran from the beginning. I think other presidents paid lip service to attacking Iran for Israel’s benefit, but were not about to do it. Obama solved the Iran problem, such as it was, with the multi-party JCPOA. As Pat reported, many experts say that Iran remains in compliance with that treaty. Trump used that wise accord, which no other nation has rejected, as toilet paper. It scares me that Trump may be the only president stupid enough to fulfill Natanyahoo’s satanic fantasy.

  16. @Realist

    When it comes to foreign policy, Trump is like the teenage girls in that movie – CLUELESS. But Trump was never a part of the Deep State. This putrid group of Ziocons have always hated Trump, even though he constantly kisses the buttocks of the Tel Aviv bully. Their hatred is manifested in his daily hammering by the presstitutes, which they own lock, stock, and barrel. The totally ridiculous Mueller probe into Russia collusion has been designed, from its inception, to drive Trump from office. No deep-stater would ever say that he wanted friendly relations with Putin. The Deep State plans to get rid of him one way or the other.

    Hillary was ALWAYS the Deep State candidate. The powers-that-be will never forgive Trump for derailing their agenda.

    • Replies: @Davidson20
    , @Realist
  17. @follyofwar

    There are as minimum three types of Zionists:

    (A) Christian Zionist, that we can find them in the republican party
    (B) Sadducees Zionist
    (C) Pharisees Zionist, that we can find them in the MSM

    Trump is hated from C, but A and B love Trump

  18. AWM says:

    Actually, Trump knows exactly what he is doing. When T-Rex called him an idiot for wanting to deploy more nuclear weapons it should have clued everyone in that he is solely for the Americans unlike essentially the rest of the government which sold out to the Commies and the Globalists decades ago.

  19. Technomad says:

    Keep in mind that Trump has Zionists in his own immediate family, who may be putting him under powerful pressure that’s difficult to counter.

    • Replies: @Realist
  20. Sowhat says:
    @A123

    The Deep State elements of the CIA and FBI control the media that is disseminated by the MSM and this is the structure that has always existed throughout the 20th and now the 21st. Century…after all, it’s where public opinion is formed by the propagandist within the Deep State.

    I read that The CIA Establishment (like Brenner- a Registered Commie- and company – Mueller and his ilk) have been following Trump for at least 20 year or more and want to bring him down but, I also believe that Trump knows his enemies and is one step ahead of them. Time will tell. He’s portrayed by the MSM as a complete nut-case and his White House is in chaos this is because they truly are the enemy of Trump and his agenda to Drain The Swamp. Don’t believe that they will thwart Trump. He stated, early on, that he would not divulge his actions before he made his moves so as to confuse the enemy and he’s doing just that.

    The channel at the bottom of this post is on You Tube has some VERY interesting videos. One explains Mueller’s plant of a Russian Thug within the Trump team around 2012, who encouraged Trump to do things with the Russians but, Trump didn’t bite. Another video explains why Nancy Pelosi is so adamantly against border security in Southern California and another explains what Trump did to stop Pelosi when she was on the bus headed to the Airport to go overseas during the shutdown. She’s has a lot of money in her coffers from Produce growers in CA who want to continue the cheap labor from Mehiko. Here’s the channel/feast:
    https://www.youtube.com/c/HeadlinesWithAVoice
    Some of the videos are awesome IMO. Let me have your feedback, if you like.

  21. Sowhat says:
    @Bill Jones

    I’ve searched and can’t seem to find the right articles on the Net. There is no clear reason for there to be a war with Iran…other than people like Bolton and that 71 year old Assistant Deputy of Foreign Affairs (think his name starts with an “A”. Sorry. Both of these guys are the Warmongers and always have been. The man whose name I can’t recall wanted to start wars with ANY country that didn’t see things our way. There are plenty of those idiots in our Government, today. That’s why Russia, Venezuela, Syria, and all of the Countries in the M.E. that we’ve laid waste are on the Establishment’s List to be demolished. Voltaire.org says Latin America will be next to devastate.

    These are good to watch, IMO.

    and

  22. @Realist

    This Just In: Trump is withdrawing from the INF Treaty that has been in effect since it was signed by Reagan and Gorbachev in 1987. Crazed SOS Pompeo said, naturally, that the Russians have failed to be in compliance – IOW they refuse to bow down and kiss the feet of the Empire. Please, Russia and China, you must band together and do whatever it takes to stop these Mad Men before it is too late!

    • Replies: @KenH
  23. JLK says:

    The so-called Deep State has been sitting on the 9/11 mass murder for over a decade and a half. If they can sweep that under the rug, brainwash us that lumpy rugs are stylish and intimidate anyone who states the obvious, they can do anything. Anyone who read from a script that day, as Trump appeared to in a video that was posted here earlier, is severely compromised. It is a capital conspiracy, maybe the worst moral outrage in the history of mankind. The same shady characters, like Our Hero Rudy Giuliani and Speedy Bob Mueller, keep popping up in high profile roles when anyone with a conscience would have at least privately atoned by retiring to charity work.

    Trump, who didn’t look very happy about the script in the video, as if he was chafing from working for an idiot, ought to triage everyone involved, pardon himself and all the low level people and dupes, and prosecute the most culpable. Let them be vilified in the media instead. Chances are, the technicians were led to believe that everyone would have time to escape the building, and the most culpable are those who made sure there would be casualties anyway, such as by blocking the stairwells.

    Maybe there’s hope in the direct presidential text messaging system to the public that he set up, but probably not.

    There’s been way too much dirt swept under that rug for decades, since the Kennedy administration and probably before (Eisenhower seemed awfully awfully troubled in his farewell address), and way too much immunity for bad actors and distortion of the democratic process by our anointed class, a.k.a the dirtbags. The scandals that can’t be completely hidden from the public are probably just the tip of the iceberg.

    It wouldn’t really hurt our national morale to have some of the outrageous truth aired. It would more likely result in renewed public interest in quality of government, and the bad actors being thrown out on their ears. They say that intelligence agents aren’t sociopaths because they don’t believe their own lies. Is that better, or worse?

    By the way, Pat, why don’t you tell us what the real deal was during Watergate? What do you have to lose?

    • Replies: @Wade
  24. AWM says:

    Remember when the Russians (Soviets) were found to be breaking the INF Treaty as soon as they signed it.

    “WASHINGTON — As President Clinton met with Russian President Putin in
    Moscow to discuss nuclear arms control over the weekend, an old story from
    the Cold War has resurfaced that sheds doubt on Russia’s reliability as a
    negotiating partner: nuclear-tipped SS-23 missiles that the Soviet Union
    never declared to the United States, in direct violation of a 1987
    arms-control agreement.
    These missiles, which are now slated to be dismantled in Slovakia this
    month, were hidden by the Red army in deep underground bunkers in
    Czechoslovakia, despite Soviet promises to withdraw all nuclear theater
    missiles from Europe and destroy them.”

    https://www.wnd.com/2000/06…

  25. Art says:

    Max Blumenthal: How US trained Juan Guaido for Regime Change

    Stop another war!

    Think Peace — Art

  26. Virgile says:

    Modern Iran has never invaded any country. It has no intention to do so. The USA still cannot swallow the humiliation of having been kicked out for good from Iran and thus like with Cuba it is looking for a revenge. Until now it failed lamentably thanks to the stupidity of the US Intel manipulated by the Neocons and the pro-Israel lobby.
    Instead of pushing Israel to make painful compromises for the sake of peace, the arrogant Zionists are pushing Israel to refuse any compromises and have worked to bleed the arab countries one by one to wealen them, so they accept Israel uncompromising presence in the middle of the Arab world.
    Egypt ceded, Iraq fell, Libya fell but Syria and Iran stood strong. Israel’s position is now weaker than ever, Iran’s stronger than ever and in a decade Iraq and Syria will be another serious threat to Israel.
    The US neocons have used all means to prevent this from happening , pushing for regime. wars and even financing Islamist extremists and hiring them to destroy Syria and Iraq.
    Yet they are facing defeats and huge costs. Trump is saying enough and he is right. Israel has to understand that it is no invincible and that the USA cannot undefinetely finance their refusal of compromises with the Arabs.
    Are the neocons and the Isael lobby strong enough to get rid of Trump as he is not following their orders??

  27. Realist says:
    @follyofwar

    You live in a dream world. There is only one way to explain those who Trump surrounds himself with….Deep State.

  28. Realist says:
    @Technomad

    Keep in mind that Trump has Zionists in his own immediate family, who may be putting him under powerful pressure that’s difficult to counter.

    Trump the pussy.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  29. “Are the neocons and the Isael lobby strong enough …
    … (to put) Trump (in the White House)”?

    YES

    is the advantage of playing with two decks of cards

    pink Ziocaine (Hillary) and red Ziocaine (Trump) …

    two pills of pink Ziocaine with breakfast and two pills of red Ziocaine with meals …
    to deceive children and girls, parents and mothers, young people and the elderly

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  30. President Trump and the spy guys all have “It” wrong. The threats which our nation faces are not from other countries but from our own paranoid perspective and violence. Like kids in an endless game of ‘King of the Mountain’ whomsoever dares step forward is an enemy target to be pushed to the ground.

  31. @Davidson20

    Hogwash! It was the anti-war dissident right as well as sinking working class America who voted Trump into office. That group of people are hardly part of Ziocon America. In fact most are hostile to it. Yes, Trump has been a huge disappointment to them, but he was not elected by the Israel lobby. Trump is guilty of picking the wrong advisors on foreign policy as he knows very little about the subject.

    • Replies: @Davidson20
  32. KenH says:
    @follyofwar

    Crazed SOS Pompeo said, naturally, that the Russians have failed to be in compliance

    Unless something’s changed Russia requested that the U.S. provide them documented cases of their non-compliance and (((Washington, D.C.))) refused. That we went nuclear straight out of the gate instead of notifying Russia about the alleged infractions and giving them a chance to correct them is evidence that the U.S. just wanted out of the agreement and used unproven allegations of Russian non-compliance to justify it.

    This shows that Trump and his administration isn’t above spreading their own fake news if it achieves their objectives.

    Withdrawing from the treaty has long been a goal sought by John Bolton who’s so fanatically pro-Israel that he may as well be Jewish. Pompeo is doing his best to exceed Bolton in his zeal to be Israel’s water goy boy.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Anon
  33. @follyofwar

    “the [tiny] anti-war dissident right as well as sinking working class America [and the Chistian Zionist]” voted Trump, that was the Zionist candidate of Abelson and Netjuju

    the words are very cheap to create fantasies in the minds of people playing with their desires

    Trump has used his audience, regardless of the imaginations and hopes that their voters have put in it, so unpleasant is the situation, the defeat is complete, we hardly have the freedom to have our own thoughts and express them in public, and here we are in a corner trying to put good humor to the madness

  34. @Bill Jones

    “What will it take to expunge the neocon filth?”

    Good question. The superficial answer would be revolution, but the neocons, agents of an ancient evil, instigate and profit from revolution and chaos. It’s their method of operation. They need to be purged, tried, and hanged, but their Kabbalah mesmerization has taken a deep hold on U.S. national security elites.

    • Replies: @2stateshmustate
  35. @Realist

    Creepy Jared Kushner (the Zionist Damien) and his connection to Russian Jewish/Israeli organized crime.

  36. Realist says:

    Trump vs. the Spy Chiefs: Who’s Right?

    They work at his pleasure.

  37. Emily Ben says:

    What of the contention that Iran is seeking hegemony in the Middle East?

    You overlook here the mutual contempt between Persians and Arabs.

    To go back to basics. everyone is startlingly racist in the Middle East, something they’ll never tell you on the BBC or in the NYT. (Strange, that). If you cut to the chase, the gold medalists in the racist race are the Arabs. They are a disgrace, as they believe themselves to be the Chosen Ones, God’s own children, and therefore superior to everyone else. That’s why they have slaves and treat all the south Asian manual workers and Philippine housemaids like dirt.

    Now you need to recognise in this overview that the Shiite alliances, principally Teheran-Damascus-Hezbollah, exist because the Shiite Arabs recognise how much they need Iran, as well as simply because they are Shia.

    More importantly, on the other side, Sunni Arabs universally despise Persians/Iranians. So now we get to the main point. If you think Iran could ever come to be “seeking hegemony in the Middle East”, you demonstrate a less than first-grader’s knowledge of MENA mentalities. Iran will never seek anything in the Sunni Arab world exactly because they know there is chance of the Sunni Arabs having anything to do with them.

    Iran seeking hegemony in the Middle East is exactly as valid as suggesting Trump is seeking a way into Nancy Pelosi’s lacy underwear. It’s not going to happen.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    , @Mr. XYZ
  38. Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m shocked that Gina Haspel of CIA is actually saying Iran is in compliance. For once we have a CIA chief who is not a war hawk. Trump the Jew is of course already attacking her, like the way he attacked Fed chairman Jay Powell for raising rates, and promising more H1B visas and green cards for Indians to please his Jewish masters in SV.

    Whatever’s bad for the Jews is bad for Trump. POTUS has got his real masters to please.

  39. Anon[248] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Withdrawing from the treaty has long been a goal sought by John Bolton who’s so fanatically pro-Israel that he may as well be Jewish. Pompeo is doing his best to exceed Bolton in his zeal to be Israel’s water goy boy.

    Don’t forget Kushner and Pence, the two other treasonous rat Zionists who actually live in the WH, having access to Trump 24/7. Kushner’s office is right next door to the Oval Office, the prime real estate.

    • Agree: KenH
  40. @SunBakedSuburb

    The way to get rid of these traitors is to expose them where they are weakest, where they showed their hand; that is 911.
    Yes, they have the MSM on their side completely. But the blatant obviousness of their 911 false-flag can’t be denied. It may take another false-flag operation to awaken the citizens, or maybe a catastrophic military defeat, but 911 is the key.
    That is why it must be brought up at every opportunity whether among individuals or in letters to the editor on bill boards, anything. The truth is on our side.
    I try to keep on mind the average Americans who were forced to jump to their deaths in terror and at the same time knowing the Israeli filth that did it were smirking and laughing. That’s one of the things that motivate me. Also, I haven’t forgot how those scum murdered Rachael Corrie as well.

  41. anon[920] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump has probably already lost 2020 as a result of his actions. The sad thing is that he may end up bringing down his voters with him. Is there a economic populist republican with Rand Paul’s foreign policy stance out there willing and capable of giving Trump a primary challenge?

    • Agree: bluedog
  42. Born of incompetence and mendacity, that counsel led to the greatest strategic blunder of the 21st century, if not of U.S. history — the second Iraq War.

    No, our greatest blunder was not sinking the ships full of Irish and Germans invading our shores in the 1840s. The border should have been slammed shut in 1790. All immigration has been bad for America. Much more harmful than the idiotic Iraq War 2: Electric Boogaloo.

    Going to war with Spain was worse than Iraq 2, since it saddled us with a foreign empire. We still suffer from having Puerto Rico hanged around our neck like a millstone.

    Entering WWI had greater consequences than Iraq 2. Tipping the balance so one side won instead of allowing a general armistice directly lead to WW2.

    Your own book has shown the folly of fighting in Europe in WW2.

  43. @Emily Ben

    they believe themselves to be the Chosen Ones, God’s own children, and therefore superior to everyone else.

    Sounds like another group of disgusting Middle Easterners.

  44. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Emily Ben

    Don’t Jews also consider themselves to be God’s Chosen People, though?

  45. Floda says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    The US is run by Jews, Trump has them hanging out of the White House windows. I recall one US Senator complaining he called the State Dept. and was greeted in fluent Hebrew.

    • Replies: @Ludwig Watzal
  46. @Floda

    It seems it’s getting worse by the day.

  47. What have the ‘spy chiefs’ been right about in the last, say, 80 years? Go ahead and search, I’ll wait.

  48. Death Knell For Syria Pullout: “We Have To Protect Israel” Says Trump

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-03/death-knell-syria-pullout-we-have-protect-israel-says-trump

    The top spooks are corrupt and political. They should be in prison.

    But Trump is no better. His foreign policy is Israel first and a renewed Cold War. So fuck Donald Trump. His idiotic war against Iran and now Venezuela have turned me, finally, against him.

  49. wraith67 says:

    Most people don’t understand that what gets put out in briefing’s at the highest level isn’t what is collected at the ground level. People should look back that the analyst rebellion at CENTCOM a few years back, where the leadership was cooking the intelligence to fit a political agenda. It happens all the time.

    If Trump had some trustworthy people, he could have them look at the background reporting, but generally he’s correct to be suspicious of what the Deep State is feeding him. These are all the people that have been in place for the last 18 years who haven’t found a way to do anything other than get into one quagmire after another, certainly the Middle East isn’t a better place now than it was 18 years ago.

  50. Wade says:
    @JLK

    Hey, good post. Would you mind providing a link to Trump seemingly reading from a script after the 9/11 tragedy?

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