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“Ten days ago, President Trump was saying ‘the United States should withdraw from Syria.’ We convinced him it was necessary to stay.”

Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, “We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term.”

Is the U.S. indeed in the Syrian civil war “for the long term”?

If so, who made that fateful decision for this republic?

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley confirmed Sunday there would be no drawdown of the 2,000 U.S. troops in Syria, until three objectives were reached. We must fully defeat ISIS, ensure chemical weapons would not again be used by Bashar Assad and maintain the ability to watch Iran.

Translation: Whatever Trump says, America is not coming out of Syria. We are going deeper in. Trump’s commitment to extricate us from these bankrupting and blood-soaked Middle East wars and to seek a new rapprochement with Russia is “inoperative.”

The War Party that Trump routed in the primaries is capturing and crafting his foreign policy. Monday’s Wall Street Journal editorial page fairly blossomed with war plans:

“The better U.S. strategy is to … turn Syria into the Ayatollah’s Vietnam. Only when Russia and Iran began to pay a larger price in Syria will they have any incentive to negotiate an end to the war or even contemplate a peace based on dividing the country into ethnic-based enclaves.”

Apparently, we are to bleed Syria, Russia, Hezbollah and Iran until they cannot stand the pain and submit to subdividing Syria the way we want.

But suppose that, as in our Civil War of 1861-1865, the Spanish Civil War of 1936-1939, and the Chinese Civil War of 1945-1949, Assad and his Russian, Iranian and Shiite militia allies go all out to win and reunite the nation.

Suppose they choose to fight to consolidate the victory they have won after seven years of civil war. Where do we find the troops to take back the territory our rebels lost? Or do we just bomb mercilessly?

The British and French say they will back us in future attacks if chemical weapons are used, but they are not plunging into Syria.

Defense Secretary James Mattis called the U.S.-British-French attack a “one-shot” deal. British Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson appears to agree: “The rest of the Syrian war must proceed as it will.”

The Journal’s op-ed page Monday was turned over to former U.S. ambassador to Syria Ryan Crocker and Brookings Institute senior fellow Michael O’Hanlon: “Next time the U.S. could up the ante, going after military command and control, political leadership, and perhaps even Assad himself. The U.S. could also pledge to take out much of his air force. Targets within Iran should not be off limits.”

And when did Congress authorize U.S. acts of war against Syria, its air force or political leadership? When did Congress authorize the killing of the president of Syria whose country has not attacked us?

Can the U.S. also attack Iran and kill the ayatollah without consulting Congress?

ORDER IT NOW

Clearly, with the U.S. fighting in six countries, Commander in Chief Trump does not want any new wars, or to widen any existing wars in the Middle East. But he is being pushed into becoming a war president to advance the agenda of foreign policy elites who, almost to a man, opposed his election.

We have a reluctant president being pushed into a war he does not want to fight. This is a formula for a strategic disaster not unlike Vietnam or George W. Bush’s war to strip Iraq of nonexistent WMD.

The assumption of the War Party seems to be that if we launch larger and more lethal strikes in Syria, inflicting casualties on Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah and the Syrian army, they will yield to our demands.

But where is the evidence for this?

What reason is there to believe these forces will surrender what they have paid in blood to win? And if they choose to fight and widen the war to the larger Middle East, are we prepared for that?

As for Trump’s statement Friday, “No amount of American blood and treasure can produce lasting peace in the Middle East,” the Washington Post Sunday dismissed this as “fatalistic” and “misguided.”

We have a vital interest, says the Post, in preventing Iran from establishing a “land corridor” across Syria.

Yet consider how Iran acquired this “land corridor.”

The Shiites in 1979 overthrew a shah our CIA installed in 1953.

The Shiites control Iraq because President Bush invaded and overthrew Saddam and his Sunni Baath Party, disbanded his Sunni-led army, and let the Shiite majority take control of the country.

The Shiites are dominant in Lebanon because they rose up and ran out the Israelis, who invaded in 1982 to run out the PLO.

How many American dead will it take to reverse this history?

How long will we have to stay in the Middle East to assure the permanent hegemony of Sunni over Shiite?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Clearly, with the U.S. fighting in six countries, Commander in Chief Trump does not want any new wars, or to widen any existing wars in the Middle East.

    It is not clear at all. According to reports, last week he wanted to attack Russia. Only the generals (Dunford and Mattis) convinced him not to.

  2. Realist says:

    Another regurgitated article by Pat.

  3. Don’t worry Pat, it will be a cakewalk! The Syrian people will welcome US troops with flowers and see them as liberators! The war will be paid for using their oil anyway so it won’t cost US taxpayers anything at all! Oh wait, that was Iraq.

    • Replies: @Paw
  4. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor

    Hey, don’t fuzzle this up with facts!

    Mr. Buchanan’s role in the Beltway Follies is to endorse the notion that people voting for those promising change — most recently Trump, but Obama, too — aren’t just chumps at the puppet show.

    After so many years in Washington, even “Mr. Paleoconservative” can’t conceive of a distinction between the American people and their rulers. His uses of “we,” “us,” and “our” keep people marinated in the sense that, because they live in Oklahoma, they must root for Uncle Sam.

  5. @reiner Tor

    Buchanan stares into his ball:
    “Trump doesn’t want war at all.”
    Get a Ouija board, Pat,
    So we’ll know where Trump’s at
    On illegals, on trade, on his Wall.

  6. KenH says:

    Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, “We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term.”

    Senator Tricky Dick Wicker of Mississippi said “Well if you care about Israel…..” in response to why we were planning to attack Syria not, “Well if you care about France….”

    Some reports have world emperor Bibi Nutnyahoo berating his viceroy Donald J. Trump over his desires to leave Syria as soon as possible and ultimately I think that’s who convinced him to abandon MAGA in favor of MIGA and a harder stance towards Assad even though mighty mouse Macron is taking responsibility.

    This also proves that almost everything Trump claims to believe is up for negotiation and if someone can give him good sales pitch along with some flattery he’s bound to change his mind even on a signature campaign promise like dialing back military presence in the middle east and around the world.

  7. KenH says:

    We have a reluctant president being pushed into a war he does not want to fight.

    But he is fighting it. His presumed reluctance is no consolation to many deplorables. He’s currently a probationary neocon going through the hazing process largely conducted by the (((media))).

    We elected Trump because he presented himself as a fighter and someone who would do battle with the establishment/deep state. Instead, he’s proven no match for it whatsoever and so has apparently decided to join it.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  8. If Trump is seriously considering leaving GIs in Syria at the behest of Macron, he is even worse than I’m rapidly coming to believe. With the likes of May and Macron, as “allies”, what could possibly go wrong?

  9. It looks to me as if Syria is going to be a new Viet-Nam to America.

    This one will be fatal (oil, gas, dollar, gold and credibility)

  10. Miro23 says:
    @KenH

    We elected Trump because he presented himself as a fighter and someone who would do battle with the establishment/deep state. Instead, he’s proven no match for it whatsoever and so has apparently decided to join it.

    No doubt that he’s vacated this role, so the way is clear for someone else.

    And it’s probably going to be someone along the lines of Corbyn in the UK, opening a public debate about Israel and Israeli influence, and refusing to back down. The US is ready for that, and the public wants it and needs it.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  11. Tick Tock says:
    @reiner Tor

    I guess you don’t do to much thinking about what comes out of the MSM. Maybe that story has the same depth and strength as those claiming Vladimir Putin controls all things on this planet. I do go with the statement Trump made to the crowd in Ohio during his speech, which clearly indicated he wanted the troops out of Syria now. Followed up by the immediate disclaimers by our War Party mouthpieces and the Fake Gas Attack leading to the missile barrage. Its most interesting to note that outside the US news reports of the attack, comments made by analyst who would seem to have some handle on such things, stated that most of the missiles did not hit their targets and that most of the targets were the Syrian Air force and its bases. So it was kind of a total F=UP. There were even some suggestions that Russian Electronic Warfare was used. One might note that Raytheon claims one of the “Features” of the Tomahawk missile is the ability to reprogram it during flight after launch. Opps, maybe that wasn’t such a good option after all. It would be quite humorous if there is a follow up attack and the launch sites found themselves as the programmed (ie, reprogrammed) target sites. Opps again. What would you say then to Mr and Ms American Taxpayer about how this could occur and that their money is being well spent. Zen is a powerful force and sooner or later as my West Virginia Grandma used to tell me, “The hens come home to roost.”

  12. Rurik says:

    Thus boasted French President Emmanuel Macron Saturday, adding, “We convinced him it was necessary to stay for the long term.”

    now we all better brace for the Unz peanut gallery’s bitter fulminations against those idiotic, war-mongering, bloodthirsty French!

    here it comes!>>>>

    oh, but I forgot!

    the French president is merely serving the interests of the French people by demanding France and the Western powers stay in Syria indefinitely. My bad.

    If so, (((who))) made that fateful decision for this republic?

    I modified your quote Pat- to make the ‘question’ rhetorical. Since it was anyways.

    submit to subdividing Syria the way we want.

    here I agree with the other commenters that it’s egregiously dishonest to use the word “we” here.

    We all voted to get out of Syria. That, as you mention Pat, is why we elected Trump.

    Now that Trump is serving our enemies interests, at the direct betrayal of Les Deplorables, it’s hardly seemly to refer to what the Trump (((administration))) is doing as what “we” want.

    Assad and his Russian, Iranian and Shiite militia allies go all out to win and reunite the nation.

    Pat understands that when he writes the word, ‘reunite’, that it sends shudders down our ((enemies)) spine. Because ‘reunite’ means no Golan Heights for the Fiend.

    Where do we find the troops to take back the territory our rebels lost? Or do we just bomb mercilessly?

    ‘if not the first, then the second’

    he is being pushed into becoming a war president to advance the agenda of (((foreign policy elites))) who, almost to a man, opposed his election.

    I fixed it for you again.

    inflicting casualties on Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah and the Syrian army, they will yield to our demands.

    again, “our” demands?!

    Really Pat? That is beyond insulting. That’s like Assad telling the people of Syria, ‘we just bombed some of our “chemical weapons facilities”. We had to do that to punish us for using chemical weapons. – It’s preposterous.

    We (the American, [and French and British and Russian]) people, are on Assad’s side on this. We want him to prevail against ISISrael. Just because our government has been co-opted by the Fiend, doesn’t mean it still (or ever has) represented us. OK?

    We have a vital interest, says the Post, in preventing Iran from establishing a “land corridor” across Syria.

    now in that context, it’s OK. Because everyone with a functioning brain knows that when the Post says we, what they mean is (((we))).

    How many American dead will it take to reverse this history?

    ‘as many are as necessary, duh already!’

    How long will we have to stay in the Middle East to assure the permanent hegemony of Sunni over Shiite?

    now Pat this is pure and rank deflection

    if it were in the middle of the article, I’d forgive this transparent artifice

    but you’re ending your important article with a zio-talking point, and considering the gravity that many, (especially newbies to statecraft) give your words, this is cowardly appeasement.

    The truth, (as you well know) is that we’re in the Middle East to serve the interests of the very murderous scum who perpetrated 9/11. – Zionist Jews and their treasonous lickspittles in congress, our intelligence services and the ((media)).

    • Replies: @Randal
  13. This is a good article. Candidate Trump has been replaced by Pres. Trump. This is disappointing but not shocking.

    Buchanan reminds us that even as an elected POTUS, Trump must play along with the powers that be. And even Buchanan must play along. This is the quasi-totalitarian world in which we live.

    If Pat were to spell out (((who))) exactly is most significantly behind the US thrust into Syria (and the determination to keep us there), not to mention this latest false flag ‘outrage’ involving ‘poison gas’ by Assad, Buchanan would be even more marginalized than he is. Same with Pres. Trump, who has been hounded mercilessly by those who despise him and his base. The (((opposition))) is too organized, too powerful, too fanatical.

    (((They))) rule Washington.

    (((They))) control the media.

    Trump is involved in a chess game that he is not savvy enough to win. The deck is stacked against him.

    As for Buchanan, in order to remain syndicated and appear on TV, he must speak in code, leaving out certain words and ideas. Free speech is slowly being narrowed and regulated. This affects all political discourse. We live in a Fake Democracy.

    PS- notice the trolls that appear whenever Buchanan writes an article. These parasites never quit.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    , @Rurik
  14. Yep, Trump prolly sealed his fate with that, done.
    Most “Republicans” will have a harder time getting elected too.
    Americans are sick of war, sick of Israel, Saudis and their terrorist armies.
    We’re being robbed blind, more Americans homeless, addicted, suicidal, un/under-employed, in debt, sick and can’t afford the crap healthcare offered, America is becoming a prison it seems. Hopeless.

    Too many of the wrong people have too much power and influence, politicians don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. Then point the finger at you, its your fault, so we’re gonna take more from you, make you even more miserable.

    It would be nice if we could actually choose our candidates, instead of Wall St and Zionists doing the choosing. America is corrupt to the core, and it shows. Seems there never a good choice…

    Feels like the devil himself has taken over America. Good to see more people waking up, don’t know if it will do any good, most of the candidates I’ve been seeing are more of the same..

  15. @mark green

    No, Pat does not need to speak in code.

    No, Pat does not need to omit certain words and ideas.

    No, President ((( Trump ))) does not need to play the blustering ineffectual Shabbos goy.

    Are you forgetting that the brick and mortar organs of communication are daily hemorrhaging readers and viewers and listeners?

    Do you doubt that Pat’s articles would not be carried by the likes of Unz?

    Too many people reposed confidence, faith, and trust in ((( Trump ))). He was never going to be what his deplorable fly-over supporters thought he would be.

    Its always better to trust wisdom than appeals to one’s tribal sensibilities. Trump is superb at capitalizing upon and selling to the latter.

  16. Rurik says:
    @mark green

    Hey Mark,

    If Pat were to spell out (((who))) exactly is most significantly behind the US thrust into Syria (and the determination to keep us there), not to mention this latest false flag ‘outrage’ involving ‘poison gas’ by Assad, Buchanan would be even more marginalized than he is.

    can he be ‘even more marginalized’?

    I don’t watch much ((TV)), but I don’t remember the last time I saw him. And not to split hairs.. but I’m not so much condemning Pat for refusing to say the obvious, but rather for blatant dishonesty and deflection. We are not in the Middle East to ” to assure the permanent hegemony of Sunni over Shiite”. As Pat makes the point at the end of his article. That is simply not true. And for Pat to end his article with that claim, doesn’t mean anything to most of us who already know why we’re there. But to tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of neophytes to the political process on a weekly basis, they may be reading Pat Buchanan for the first time. Trying to get a handle on why the ZUS seems intractably involved in a conflict that doesn’t have anything whatsoever to do with the American people’s interests.

    And they may come away thinking, golly, I guess our government is just a little crazy, and hell-bent on punishing Islamics it considers terrorists.

    When I believe that it’s important (existentially critical) that the American people understand exactly on ((whose)) behalf “we’re” bankrupting the nation, waging permanent wars of aggression all over the Middle East and beyond, slaughtering and maiming millions, destroying nation after nation, hazarding nuclear war with Russia, and earning the well-deserved hatred of the world’s people.

    The only way this will ever end Mark, as I’m sure you well know, is if a critical mass of Americans realize just what’s been going on, and demand that it stop.

    I don’t fault Tucker Carlson for failing to name ((names)), just as I don’t blame Pat Buchanan for the same “oversight”. Their silence is one thing, but outright disinformation is another.

    But I still do consider Pat Buchanan as one of our very best, who knows what’s what like few ever will. And who’s written amazing books fleshing it all out.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    , @mark green
  17. @Rurik

    Last week, I watched Tucker Carlson’s interview of Senator Roger Wicker ((( R- Mississippi ))) regarding the alleged chemical weapons attack.

    Tucker asked some good questions, including what evidence did Sen. Wicker have that Assad was behind the alleged attack and why should the US be contemplating military action without irrefutable evidence that Assad was the culprit.

    However, in responding to one of Tucker’s queries, Sen. Wicker said “if you care about Israel,” and Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @Realist
    , @Rurik
  18. another bogus essay on “Trump vs. the (((Deep State))),

    and crap from beginning to end. Trumpenthal is a

    lifelong NY liberal demoncrat and

    Wall St. Zionist stooge.

    you all who voted for him, and PB

    got played

    like a violin.

  19. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Miro23

    No doubt that he’s vacated this role, so the way is clear for someone else.

    And it’s probably going to be someone along the lines of Corbyn in the UK, opening a public debate about Israel and Israeli influence, and refusing to back down. The US is ready for that, and the public wants it and needs it.

    If there is a genuine challenge to the status quo on foreign policy in the U.S. it is more likely to come from someone with genuine leftist credentials, like Corbyn.

    Corbyn’s emergence was made possible by the fact that there is still a remnant of an actual Left in Britain. Unfortunately there hasn’t been an actual Left in the U.S. for half a century.

  20. KenH says:
    @Liberty Mike

    and Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”

    I caught that, too. Tuck knows that if he didn’t immediately profess concern for Israel then (((they))) would paint him into a corner as an anti-semite so they can play watch the spineless goy squirm. Tucker’s savvy and seems to know just how far he can go without antagonizing the (((usual suspects))) and what he needs to say (or not say) to stay out of trouble. But even that’s no guarantee of job security.

  21. @Rurik

    Hi Rurik. You are right. Pat’s closing remark which suggested that the Shiite-Sunni split was a driving force behind for US intervention in Syria or Iraq (or anywhere) does not make sense, especially in light of what he’s written previously. Other than that, Pat is generally on target.

    But like Tucker Carlson, Ron Paul, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, Pat has learned to avoid using the J-word in a negative context. It’s just too exhausting. And he’s not a young man anymore.

    Jews can raise a firestorm of outrage like nobody one else. And they never forget. Not do they forgive. Wm. F. Buckley threw in the towel at the end of his otherwise distinguished career.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @Rurik
  22. Randal says:
    @Rurik

    How long will we have to stay in the Middle East to assure the permanent hegemony of Sunni over Shiite?

    now Pat this is pure and rank deflection

    if it were in the middle of the article, I’d forgive this transparent artifice

    but you’re ending your important article with a zio-talking point, and considering the gravity that many, (especially newbies to statecraft) give your words, this is cowardly appeasement.

    The truth, (as you well know) is that we’re in the Middle East to serve the interests of the very murderous scum who perpetrated 9/11. – Zionist Jews and their treasonous lickspittles in congress, our intelligence services and the ((media)).

    It is a bit bizarrely pointed, coming from Buchanan of all people. Now personally I’d have been happy if he’d included both sources of foreign influence on US ME policy by, say, adding “and the permanent military dominance of Israel over its neighbours”, or some such. That would have been legitimate and basically accurate. But as you say, as it is written Buchanan’s conclusion is positively misleading on an issue Buchanan is certainly informed about.

    Has he just lost the stomach for the fight?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  23. Realist says:
    @Liberty Mike

    However, in responding to one of Tucker’s queries, Sen. Wicker said “if you care about Israel,” and Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”

    I also noted that. Speaking ill of Israel is verboten in the media. Tucker is walking on egg shells as it is. He has thrown the Overton window wide open.

  24. bluedog says:
    @mark green

    Hmm Tucker and Paul yes Rush and Coulter have made a fortune peddling their own brand of hate, which have turned many people against the GOP…

  25. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    Tucker interjected, “of course, I care about Israel.”

    they’re constantly trying to bait him.

    The other night he said it was his job to be skeptical, and the guest sneered something to the effect, ‘does that include the Holocaust?!’

    Whereupon Tucker had to genuflect his kneejerk servility to the Shoah, as of course we all must.

    But they’re doing that to him all the time, and I wonder if it isn’t having an effect on Tucker. Day after day he’s expected to ignore the zio-elephant in the room, and put on a quizzical look and rhetorically ask, ‘why are we in Syria?’ ‘Why are we bankrupting our future and positioning ourselves for a war with Russia, when it is obviously of zero benefit to Americans to do so?’

    And just as with the Emperors clothes, everyone knows, and everyone carefully avoids speaking the obvious truth. But at least Tucker is asking the right questions, when all of his colleagues are all screeching that we need to bomb Syria and save America from Hitler/Assad/Putin!!!

    I suppose the real question is how did a guy like Tucker even get close to such media prominence. Bill O’Rielly’s slot on cable TV is a very significant pulpit from which to catapult the truth. How in the hell did an honest American with traditional sensibilities ever get near such a vaunted perch?

    Are Murdoch’s sons less slavishly Zionist than their father is?

    How is it that Tucker isn’t aware that his patron Rupert Murdoch is a main board member (as is Rothschild and Dick Cheney and other scum) of Genie Energy, which stands to profit stratospherically from the billions of barrels of oil in the Golan Heights. A plunder of the magnitude that sent the British army into South Africa to steal the gold and diamonds. That they had to put the families of the Dutch farmers (who created the nation in the first place) into concentration/death camps was clearly considered ‘worth it’, when ((they)) calculated the value of the plunder.

    If it’s worth it to subjugate and genocide the S. African Dutch so their nation’s resources could be looted by Rothschild, (just as it was “worth it” to cause the cruel death of five hundred thousand Iraqi children), how much less ‘worth it’ will slaughtering a few hundred thousand Syrians be when you consider all those oil shekels?!

    So I continue to watch him, as long as he continues to ask the right questions.

  26. Rurik says:
    @mark green

    Jews can raise a firestorm of outrage like nobody one else. And they never forget. Not do they forgive. Wm. F. Buckley threw in the towel at the end of his otherwise distinguished career.

    well Mark, I’ll say this about Pat Buchanan..

    He stands head and shoulders above the sniveling, perfidious Buckley. Who betrayed his friend and honest colleague Joe Sobran to the forces of evil (the Fiend) for the crime of being an honest man and speaking truth to power.

    This is the face of a man who was betrayed by his former friends:

    And died in obscurity for the crime of being an honest man, so that William Buckely could continue the pretense of being the voice of ‘conservative America’, so long as he served the Fiend’s agenda = Orwellian boot on humanities face for all eternity.

    I see a modern day parallel between William Buckley and Joe Sobran, with Phil Giraldi and the editors of The American Conservative.

    Buckley = TAC editor Robert W. Merry

    Giraldi = Joe Sobran

    At least that’s how I see it.

    I suppose I don’t mind it so much when men like Henry Ford cave to the Fiend. Because he was first and foremost an entrepreneur, and whose raison d’etre was not to keep the American people informed. Whereas men like Buckely assumed that mantle, and took on the role of guardian and high-priest and protector of conservative truths. Only to use his exalted position to betray those truths, (and the people who depend upon them) to their deadliest and most intractable enemy.

    Peace

  27. Rurik says:
    @Randal

    Buchanan’s conclusion is positively misleading on an issue Buchanan is certainly informed about.

    Has he just lost the stomach for the fight?

    not only an issue he’s informed about, but the very crux of America’s (and England’s and France’s) pretexts for war.

    Imagine it’s 1939, and you alone could prevent WWII from happening, knowing what horrors it would unleash, if only you had the sand to speak truth to power.

    As Mark Green just mentioned, they’ll go after you with a netherworld vengeance, like they did Charles Lindbergh, and others. But we’re now on the brink of yet another global conflagration, and it’s all based on lies and zio-treachery.

    The only way to prevent WWIII (something ((they’re)) obviously keen to see happen), is to try to inform as many people as possible to the truth about all their devil’s lies. IMHO

    If I were Buchanan, and was getting on in the years, I’d wonder if my life would be best punctuated by a grand opus, a monumentally ‘futile and stupid gesture’ perhaps, but how better to consummate a distinguished career than to be the man who prevented WWIII?!

    why not spend your golden years in a blaze of glory, rather than pusillanimous (Pat knows what that word means ; ) “respectability”?

    • Replies: @Anon
  28. @Rurik

    Yes, he does ask the right questions, so I, too, will continue to watch.

    Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.

    Do you think there would be an immediate call / campaign to remove him? Do you think that FOX would take him off the air the very next night? Do you think that some of the other useful idiots, like the Reverend Al, the Morning Joe type Republicans, and other cucks, who are not part of the ((( tribe ))), would hop on the train?

  29. Rurik says:

    Suppose he mentions the ((( unmentionable ))), but in a measured and reasonable manner.

    like when some guest is frothing over ‘Russia meddling in our elections!’, and then he says -

    ‘AIPAC’

    I’m not sure what would happen. I suspect he’d be sent to ‘beyond the Pale’ for such impertinence.

    PCR has already wondered out loud when some woman will pop up who claims he sexually harassed her.

    But I don’t see it so much as Tucker himself, but rather Murdoch’s sons. They decide who is on the air during that time slot. They could simply replace him tomorrow with another zio-shill if they were so inclined. So I’m at least hopeful that there’s still a shred, however infinitesimal, of hope for the truth to at least not be completely extinguished by zio-lies.

    But I’m not counting on it, and am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  30. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Even though US intelligence agencies did not have absolute certainty Syria’s regime had used the nerve agent sarin against civilians, the Trump administration still felt there was enough evidence to justify retaliatory strikes last Friday, several intelligence and defense officials tell CNN.

    Walking back the highly confident assurance.

    The lack of complete information played a role in deciding not to strike a larger set of targets including airfields, aircraft and helicopters, one defense official said. Others factors, like Russian positioning, also played a role in the decisions.

    WTF? That it was ineffective is a feature, not a bug. The desire to make Trump the fool is egging on his enemies.

    Will the narrative unravel?

  31. Paw says:
    @NoseytheDuke

    These very damned Iranians now, freely wander around whole Syria and do what they want !! Shitting, oh, I want to say shooting on our armies..They might be in Yeamen too…Yeah, yes man,,too..What can we do ? And who is going to stop them ?
    They fight back , so dangerous , and our freedom terrorists leaving by busloads…

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  32. Escher says:

    No 4-D chess any more. Just the 2 dimensions of mindlessly doing Israel’s bidding and walking back on all his campaign promises.

  33. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    Buchanan published “Whose War?” years ago, about Iraq, so I imagine he’s not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism. In this case I think he’s making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis, with the enthusiastic support of the Gulf Arabs.

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  34. Rurik says:
    @Anon

    so I imagine he’s not particularly reticent about Israel-centrism

    he’s making a rhetorical point, because our stated aim is to help the poor oppressed Sunnis

    that is my whole criticism

    Pat knows the score, as few others ever will. And if you read his excellent books, his savvy is all too obvious.

    So then why, when he’s writing to a wider audience, must he mute the truth, and deflect from the core issues? When those reading his articles are in far more need of a jostle of hard realties?

    The “stated aims” of our PTB are always lies. From avenging the lives lost on the Lusitania to Assad’s ‘chemical weapons attacks’. Lies that have literally cost millions of lives, and have sent Western civilization spiraling down into depraved damnation and ruin.

    Pat knows all of that. He knows that everything they say is a devil’s lie. He knows that they’re feverishly doing all that’s in their power to eradicate and extinguish the West and her people once and for all. The final solution to their protocols.

    But they’d get nowhere fast were it not for the eager complicity of the entire elite class of goyim.

    I’m not suggesting Pat start railing that the Holocaust was exaggerated or that they lied about 9/11. I’m not suggesting he (suicidally) take them on full on, I’m just saying why repeat their lies?

    Why bolster their credibility? When it’s so much easier simply to tell the obvious truth?

    Everybody with a pulse knows by now that we’re in the Middle East on Israel’s behalf. Duh.

    Half the people are happy we are, (Christian Zionists and others) and a few of the people are not. But surely we don’t need to parrot idiotic absurdities like we’re over there because of our government’s love of Sunni Muslims.

  35. @Rurik

    am wondering how I extricate myself from this zio-dystopian twilight zone idiocracy, and make my way to Uruguay.

    If you want South America, be advised Uruguay is a bit of a mess. Also, cold in winter.

    In Chile, the three coastal cities of Antofagasta, Iquique, and Arica are bastions of modernity in a stable economy (for as long as the copper lasts — another 20 years, easy). IMO, climate at the Tropic of Capricorn (Antofagasta) is just about perfect. Iquique is close enough, Arica kinda on the edge, IMO — especially with its proximity to the Peruvian border.

    If you can stumble through pidgin Spanish already, as most victims of the illegal invasion have been forced to learn, three months of practice with Chileans should be sufficient. Chile does not speak Spanish in quite the same way as the Conquistador areas. Takes getting used to. Also, Chile’s population is substantially white European.

    I have my personal choices narrowed down to Iquique, and Lagos or Albufeira in Portugal.

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  36. Rurik says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    fascinating

    I sort of use Uruguay as this mythical place not part of the insanity where I now languish, and have wondered what it’s like, but never was really drawn too much to it.

    Your description of Iquique intrigues me, as that’s exactly the kind of place I’d like to check out.

    Been to Costa Rica a few times, and love it, but too many Yankees are going there. Thinking about Panama too.

    my agenda is eventually to travel all around, until I find home. Trying to scrape together some dinero, (know enough Spanish to get by), so I can venture forth.

    The girlfriend is an issue, so that’s probably what’s slowing me down.

    Albufeira looks amazing!

    I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    (I’ve offered my services as travel writer for Unz, but Ron hasn’t contacted me yet :) )

  37. I know some people who travel a lot. One guy tells me the people of Chile are basically descended from Brits and the people of Argentina from Italians. Don’t know if that’s too simplistic or not. Would love to check them all out and report.

    Naw, don’t think so … Chile is predominantly Spanish, 65% white of European ancestry, the rest mestizo or amerind (very few negros). Some Brits, yes. Argentina does have a lot of Italians, IIRC.

    When we were kids going to the American school in Sao Paulo, the SA “American” schools organized athletic tournaments twice a year. We played baseball, touch football, track and field with kids from American schools all over South America. Major partying went on for three days — nobody gave a damn about the athletics, it was an international make-out session of epic proportion.

    We couldn’t understand the Chilean Spanish, a lot of them being rich Santiago society girls put in an American school for the usual reasons. They were drop-dead gorgeous chiquitas, usually producing testosterone-driven fights. Also, I remember a bit of a scandal when one of the US Consulate’s chaperoning vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    Ah, good times.

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  38. @Rurik

    Characters like Carlson are far too likely to be part of the overall propaganda effort for me to watch TV just to see them. You’re talking about how the zionists bait him with questions that he has to answer in an approved manner. Doesn’t that have the effect on you of having to accept that he’s lying to them?

    To me, if I decided to watch one of his shows, and some congressman asked him if he cared about Israel and he said, “Of course I care about Israel””, I would just switch it off and conclude that he’s either a stooge for Israel or he’s a liar.

    Maybe he’s on Fox to keep viewers like you watching Fox. I stopped watching TV news in 2001. Seeing a few minutes of it in a waiting room or somewhere like that is enough to make me get up and leave. I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Anon
  39. Rurik says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    vice-consuls got caught with a 17-year old Chilena.

    I remember a gal in I met in Costa Rica, (of all places, since she was a blonde), but she was also Michelle Pfeiffer’s doppelgänger, only she was about 17 years old. When I said she looked like Michelle Pheiffer, she said she hears that all the time.

    With all the flirtiness aside, and how I couldn’t take my eyes off of her, I still couldn’t get past the fact that she was so young, and so I passed on any romance. But she already had a son, so it’s not like she was virginal.

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    • Replies: @Steve Gittelson
  40. Rurik says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I would rather be uninformed than misinformed.

    I know what you mean, but even as they speak in Newspeak, and the ubiquitous mendacity is insulting and grating, I still like to stay informed on the misinformation they’re programming into people’s minds.

    I can’t watch the leftist stuff on CNN and the rest, because it’s far too shrill, but I used to watch O’Rielly just to know what the Red state folks were told to think.

    And watching Tucker can be pretty enlightening to just how far off the rails the left has careened.

    Last night the guest host had a guy on who was trying to speak at Harvard law school on free speech, and the Red Guards shut him down, shouting things like “fuck the law!”

    apparently free speech is just code for ‘white supremacism’, (did you know that?)

    we should be aware that the left is descending into stark madness, where you are guilty by virtue of your gender and hue, and your only acceptable response is ‘I’m sorry, and what can I do to make restitution’

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

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  41. @Rurik

    But holy hell was she gorgeous!

    If it’s any consolation … they do age badly. ;-)

    Meh, Costa Rica — the first place my family got tangled up with locals, providing me with CR relatives I never see. CR is so Americanized, it’s almost lost its own identity.

    I grew up with Latins, so I am immune to the girls. They ain’t foolin’ me … Unfortunately, the war provided me with a preference for Vietnamese girls that has never worn off. Chacun a son gout.

  42. @Rurik

    and that goes for employees of Google, et al., all the way to the universities, where crimethought is now an imposed reality.

    This will not end well.

    Yes, but the end is in sight. Once the conflicts are resolved by civil war — to whatever extent resolution takes place — we will get an interregnum of some sort, during which some gains may be made. Maybe so, maybe no — it’s a crapshoot. Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

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  43. Anon[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain

    I find it hard to criticize you; I certainly don’t watch TV talk shows if I can possibly avoid them.

    That said, there’s certainly somewhat of a spectrum here on awareness and honesty. Mr. Buchanan, for instance, became “toxic” some years ago and was mostly “deplatformed”. Mr. Carlson is less “extreme”, but he is certainly useful as, intentionally or unintentionally, a public speaker for unpopular views.

    Apologies for scare quotes, but I think they are merited.

  44. Rurik says:
    @Steve Gittelson

    Perhaps Herr Hegel was too much the optimist.

    or Rousseau for that matter

    it’s a crapshoot.

    have you seen this?

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