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Unless there is a late surge for Communist Party candidate Pavel Grudinin, who is running second with 7 percent, Vladimir Putin will be re-elected president of Russia for another six years on March 18.

Then we must decide whether to continue on course into a second Cold War, or engage Russia, as every president sought to do in Cold War I.

For our present conflict, Vladimir Putin is not alone at fault. His actions have often been reactions to America’s unilateral moves.

After the Soviet Union collapsed, we brought all of the Warsaw Pact members and three former republics of the USSR into our military alliance, NATO, to corral Russia. How friendly was that?

Putin responded with his military buildup in the Baltic.

George W. Bush abrogated the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty that Richard Nixon had negotiated, Putin responded with a buildup of the offensive missiles he put on display last week.

The U.S. helped to instigate the Maidan Square coup that dumped over the elected pro-Russian government in Ukraine.

To prevent the loss of his Sebastopol naval base on the Black Sea, Putin countered by annexing the Crimean Peninsula.

After peaceful protests in Syria were put down by Bashar Assad, we sent arms to Syrian rebels to overthrow the Damascus regime.

Seeing his last naval base in the Med, Tartus, imperiled, Putin came to Assad’s aid and helped him win the civil war.

The Boris Yeltsin years are over.

Russia is acting again as a great power. And she sees us as a nation that slapped away her hand, extended in friendship in the 1990s, and then humiliated her by planting NATO on her front porch.

Yet, what is also clear is that Putin hoped and believed that, with the election of Trump, Russia might be able to restore respectful if not friendly relations with the United States.

Clearly, Putin wanted that, as did Trump.

Yet, with the Beltway hysteria over hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails, and the Russophobia raging in this capital, we appear to be paralyzed when it comes to engaging with Russia.

The U.S. political system, said Putin this week, “has been eating itself up.” Is his depiction that wide of the mark?

What is the matter with us?

Three years after Nikita Khrushchev sent tanks into Budapest to drown the Hungarian revolution in blood, Eisenhower was hosting him on a 10-day visit to the USA.

Two years after the Berlin Wall went up, and eight months after Khrushchev installed missiles in Cuba, Kennedy reached out to the Soviet dictator in his widely praised American University speech.

Lyndon Johnson met with Russian President Alexei Kosygin in Glassboro, New Jersey, just weeks after we almost clashed over Moscow’s threat to intervene in the Arab-Israeli War of 1967.

Six months after Leonid Brezhnev sent tank armies to crush the Prague Spring in August 1968, an inaugurated Nixon was seeking detente.

In those years, no matter who was in the White House or Kremlin, the U.S. establishment favored engagement with Moscow. It was the right that was skeptical or hostile.

Again, what is the matter with this generation?

True, Vladimir Putin is an autocrat seeking a fourth term, like FDR.

But what Russian leader, save Yeltsin, has not been an autocrat? And Russians today enjoy freedoms of speech, assembly, religion, travel, politics, and the press that the generations before 1989 never knew.

China, not Russia, has the more repressive single-party Communist state.

Indeed, which of these U.S. allies shows greater tolerance than Putin’s Russia? The Philippines of Rodrigo Duterte, the Egypt of Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, the Turkey of President Erdogan, or the Saudi Arabia of Prince Mohammad bin Salman?

ORDER IT NOW

Russia is nowhere near the strategic or global threat the Soviet Union presented. As Putin conceded this week, with the breakup of the USSR, his nation “lost 23.8 percent of its national territory, 48.5 percent of its population, 41 percent of its gross domestic product and 44.6 percent of its military capacity.”

How would Civil War Unionists have reacted if the South had won independence and then, to secure the Confederacy against a new invasion, Dixie entered into an alliance with Great Britain, gave the Royal Navy bases in New Orleans and Charleston, and allowed battalions of British troops to deploy in Virginia?

Japan negotiates with Putin’s Russia over the southern Kuril Islands lost at the end of World War II. Bibi Netanyahu has met many times with Putin, though he is an ally of Assad, whom Bibi would like to see ousted, and has a naval and air base not far from Israel’s border.

We Americans have far more fish to fry with Russia than Bibi.

Strategic arms control. De-escalation in the Baltic, Ukraine and the Black Sea. Ending the war in Syria. North Korea. Space. Afghanistan. The Arctic. The war on terror.

Yet all we seem to hear from our elite is endless whining that Putin has not been sanctioned enough for desecrating “our democracy.”

Get over it.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hear hear!

  2. RobinG says:

    “And Russians today enjoy freedoms of speech, assembly, religion, travel, politics, and the press that the generations before 1989 never knew.”
    And these are freedoms that Americans, since 2001, are enjoying less and less. To add insult to injury, it’s not only our gov’t., but our neighbors who seek to curtail Freedom of Speech. One is likely to be ostracized for not succumbing to the Russiagate hysteria.

    This excellent interview discusses motives for this propaganda.

    Will Russiagate Help the Israel Lobby Censor Al Jazeera?

  3. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    ‘Russophobia’ is not OUR problem.

    Most Americans would have no ‘Russophobia’ if not for the crazy media. After all, most Americans, Demmy or Repuby, are wholly oblivious to world affairs. They only care about pop culture.

    So, why did Russia become a big deal?

    Not because of the people. It was because of the media and deep state. Who runs them? Jewish globalists. Why do Jews hate Russia? It’s historic.

    So, the real problem is Jewish Supremacism. ‘Russophobia’ is just a symptom of it.

    Jewish globalists HATE anything that stands in the way of their total domination.

    Russia clearly isn’t anti-Jewish. Jews are 0.2% of the population but make up 20% of the richest people there. So, why do Jews hate Russia? They haven’t been allowed to gain total power as in the US. And Jews fear that the Russian example might inspire other white nations. And only total mastery and domination will please Jewish globalists who are in supremacist mode.

    That’s what this is about. All this hysteria about Russia hacking blah blah is just Jewish globalists trying to discredit Russia in the eyes of goyim.

    Now, given the Jewish globalist mindset, why would they abandon anti-Russian hysteria? It’s not about Russia. It’s about them. They will do ANYTHING to serve their own interests.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Dave Marotta
  4. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Unfortunately, we will not get over it for the following reasons:

    1. The military industrial complex needs an enemy to keep Western Europe in line. The Russians serve this role as Boogeyman.

    2. The LA-NYC-DC media axis has a strong hatred of Russians because they are White and opposed to gays; never mind the fact that the public at large could care less. The axis controls the megaphone, so Russiophobia it is.

    3. Russiophobia is the means by which these Deep State traitors and axis allies are attempting to overthrow our elected president. Not a single day has gone by that I haven’t seen some BS Russia gate crap from these late night propaganda shows or the controlled media. Russiophobia is literally the only thing they have going because their immigration and trade policies are unpopular.

    4. Money. Lots of cash to be made in weapon sales from a new Cold War. Since the Chinese are Chinese, a Cold War with them would be ‘racist’ but since Russia is white…

    5. The Israel lobby has their sights set on Iran and Russia stands in the way. Thus, the lobby fiercely opposes Putin.

    • Replies: @restless94110
    , @Anon
  5. For the West, the demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.

    Putin should come to realize that, whatever his grievances, a policy of military impositions would produce another Cold War. For its part, the United States needs to avoid treating Russia as an aberrant to be patiently taught rules of conduct established by Washington. Putin is a serious strategist — on the premises of Russian history. Understanding U.S. values and psychology are not his strong suits. Nor has understanding Russian history and psychology been a strong point of U.S. policymakers.

    Leaders of all sides should return to examining outcomes, not compete in posturing.

    Henry Kissinger, in 2014

  6. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Columnists like Pat Buchanan and Andrew Napolitano may help people find this website, but week in and week out they show themselves as sloppy, at best. (There may be something to be said for putting them up here, where they can be compared to Dinh, Giraldi, Hopkins, Sailer, Whitney, et al.). I read their columns closely when it comes to Russia, and comment when I see them serving the Establishment line.

    As usual, notwithstanding the title, Mr. Buchanan here repeats enough bu****it to keep his place at the imperial court.

    > His readers are told that “Putin countered by annexing the Crimean Peninsula.” Nope, there was no vote by the people who live there. “Putin” just “annexed” it.

    > How many times has Mr. Buchanan written of the “hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails”? Is he still unaware of the forensic evidence and credible analysis of people like Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity that the DNC emails were leaked, not hacked?

    > The “How would Civil War Unionists” paragraph is pretty loopy, but seems to suggest that the US (“Great Britain”) lacks imperial ambitions, and has military bases all over Europe (“Dixie”) only to stave off “a new invasion” by Russia.

    > “We Americans have far more fish to fry with Russia than Bibi.” After so many years in Washington, even “Mr. Paleoconservative” can’t conceive of a distinction between the American people and their rulers. Just count the uses of “we,” “us,” and “our” that keep people marinated in the sense that, because they live in Oklahoma, they must root for Uncle Sam.

  7. But what Russian leader, save Yeltsin, has not been an autocrat?

    How was Yeltsin not an autocrat? He illegally dissolved the parliament by military force killing hundreds, illegally ousted his own vice president who was elected on the same ticket as himself, had a new constitution accepted by a plebiscite with massive fraud, then had himself re-elected with massive fraud, while some 100% of the media and 90+% of the press were under his or his allies’ control. He then handpicked a successor who was elected in 2000 with near total control of the media (and massive fraud, though probably it was only needed to avoid a second round).

    If that’s not an autocrat, then what is? How could Yeltsin be any less of an autocrat than Putin?

    • Replies: @David
  8. Renoman says:

    Where is the threat? What have they done? Yes they have good weapons and thank God they do or the crazy Israeli led US Generals would surely have nuked someone by now.
    The economy? About the same as Italy, big whoop.
    Resource rich, peaceful, mind their own business sort of folks not being led around by Gays goofs and assholes like the USA, why not do business with em? They are not the BOOGIE MAN!
    I’m sure trump would have been over there cutting deals a year ago if it weren’t for the Hillary crazies. What a bunch of looser’s they are, they make me sick.

  9. The U.S. helped to instigate the Maidan Square coup that dumped over the elected pro-Russian government in Ukraine.

    To prevent the loss of his Sebastopol naval base on the Black Sea, Putin countered by annexing the Crimean Peninsula.

    Pat, you need to get over the Putinist propaganda. There was no coup in Ukraine. The people rose up because they refused to be betrayed into Russian hands by Yanukovich. Yanukovich turned on his own people, ordering the murder of people on the Maidan.

    Russia wasn’t going to lose the Sevastopol base, but when Crimea is returned to its rightful owners, they will lose it, as they deserve.

    Putin ordered the invasion of Ukraine, both Crimea and Donbas. Putin lies about not being involved in the Donbas, but the world has already seen through his disinformation.

    There is no “Russophobia.” There is reason to fear Russia, as Putin has shown already.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @The Alarmist
  10. @Anon

    Very good collection of Buchanan’s erros and omissions, but you missed one:

    Neither Putin nor Franklin Roosevelt were autocrats. They were (or are about to be) elected by their people 4 times. They were and are very popular leaders.

    The Constitutional Amendment limiting a President to 2 terms should have never been passed and should be repealed (or if not, then add all of Congress to that 2 term limit nonsense).

    The only reason for a 2-term limit was hatred of Roosevelt by idiots like Buchanan, and the so-called “tradition” of Presidents only staying or lasting for 2 terms.

    Both reasons are obvious poppycock. Buchanan and his ilk never complain about the 10 terms of many Senators and House members. Yet a beloved and popular President is somehow an autocrat?

    What a moronic smear. Mirriam-Webster’s definition of autocrat is: a person (such as a monarch) ruling with unlimited authority; one who has undisputed influence or power.

    FDR like Putin did not have unlimited power, neither did(do) either have undispouted power or influence.

    You are dead wrong about both Presidents, Pat. Shame on you, you know that you know better.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  11. Charta 17 says:

    Ultimately the US government’s anti-Russian animus does not matter. US government propaganda intensifies in lockstep with Washington’s impotence and discredit. These beltway tantrums are a good sign.

    When this article says ‘us,’ I don’t think it conflates the US police state and the American people. Many Americans suffer from induced Russophobia. They feel they have to qualify any opinion with a general complaint about Russian oppression.

    But in fact, comprehensive and exhaustive evidence shows that the US is more repressive than Russia.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Issues/Indicators/Pages/HRIndicatorsIndex.aspx

    You can compare them for yourself, point-by-point, in terms of all the legal duties of the state.

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/countries/LACRegion/Pages/USIndex.aspx

    http://www.ohchr.org/EN/countries/ENACARegion/Pages/RUIndex.aspx

    The Russian government has put itself on a self-improvement treadmill of ongoing independent review by all the nations that commit themselves to human rights. The US government evades independent review and undermines your rights with bureaucratic red tape and bad faith.

    Russians get a better deal than you do. What happens when we all realize it? We’ll do to the USA what we did to the USSR. We’ll knock it over, rip it apart, replace it with a country based on rights and rule of law. That’s the underlying panic of the bureaucrats at Langley. Their real enemy is rights and rule of law.

  12. David says:
    @reiner Tor

    I don’t know what Buchanan meant, but maybe it was that Yeltsin was a western stooge.

  13. @anonymous

    I agree, and Mr. Buchanan comes off sounding naive in quite a few of his columns. He knows what’s going on in the world. He also knows American politics, but only in terms of who is on this committee, who will vote yea on that bill there, whether there is a precedent for this, etc. and lots of history on all this. What he does not seem to understand is that it is not 1965 or even 1990, as far as the way things get actually run in this country.

    There are no civil agreements “across the aisle” that will be held to, no precedent from a court decision from 1995 that will, of course, be upheld by rule-of-law judges, and that sort of thing. It is anarcho-tyranny at this point, from top to bottom.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  14. @restless94110

    Neither Putin nor Franklin Roosevelt were autocrats. They were (or are about to be) elected by their people 4 times. They were and are very popular leaders.

    I don’t know Russian politics that well, but I imagine Putin would be very popular. As far as relations with American is concerned he’s a great guy to have there, and things would be lots better between our countries without the American Deep State.

    However, that cocksucker FDR was one of the two most responsible for creating the American welfare state (other was Lyndon Johnson). Amendment XXII would not have stopped his steps of American destruction, but at least we figured “Never again”.

    Men like Pol Pot, Butcher Mao, Joe Stalin also end up getting elected multiple times, maybe more than 4. That didn’t work out very well. I think you have no idea why the American founders created the Constitutional Republic we used to have. It’s worth just reading the document itself and the Federalist Papers – get back to us.

    No, George Washington had it right, and it’s a damn shame for his legacy that the current Washington, FS* had to be named after him.

    I’m all for term-limits on Reps and Senators, BTW, and there’s nothing unconstitutional about that. You’d be as naive as Pat Buchanan (sometimes) is, if you think that’s gonna happen without gun play.

    * Federal Shithole

  15. True, Vladimir Putin is an autocrat seeking a fourth term, like FDR.

    That, my friends, is how one does propaganda.

  16. bjondo says:

    Term limit on president should be removed. Would also get rid of “lame duck”.

    Think Pat makes some of his ridiculous statements to still be acceptable in DC.

    The term limit I support is on Israel worshiping politicians. They should be prohibited by law from holding office.

    Are traitors to America allowed to hold public office?

  17. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Buchanan needs to address the Jewish Power directly.

    WE are not behind anti-Russianism.

    If Jews were call a halt to anti-Russianism, everyone else would follow suit since most of the goys inside the Beltway are shabbos cucks.

  18. Does he not understand the concept if the Narrative?

    They KNOW it’s bullshît. It’s just a tool to use on the marching morons.

  19. Russia is no longer a communist totalitarian state. In the intervening 30 years since the collapse of the Soviet empire, the yankee imperium itself has completed its morph into a quasi-fascist empire begun over the cold war decades. It is, therefore, imperative that Mr. Buchanan’s wise counsel be followed if we are to survive.

  20. @Anon

    I could not agree with you more, Well said.

  21. @anonymous

    There WAS a referendum in the Crimea—I have a copy of it before me, as I write, provided by my wife, a Ukrainian—and it asks whether you (the voter), wish to retain the Constitution of ’56, by which the Crimea was ceded by Khruschev to Ukraine, as a gift, or whether you (the voter) wish to return to Russian hegemony?

    The vote for the latter was 97%.

    All the talk of “annexation” was nonsense. There were no troops involved, no movement of military, and the Russian Federation Base, which contractually was allowed to host 10,000 troops, was not involved.

    It was a perfectly peaceful SECESSION from Ukraine

    Please don’t talk nonsense

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  22. Few Americans understand the extent of the anti-Russian propaganda and the massive profiteering by military contractors that results. Watch this recent Jimmy Dore clip to learn more. Most are shocked to learn the USA spends twelve times more. Our increase this year alone is much greater than Russian entire military budget!

  23. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Pat, you need to get over the Putinist propaganda. There was no coup in Ukraine.”

    Literally the next sentence:

    “The people rose up because they refused to be betrayed into Russian hands by Yanukovich.”

    These State Department paid trolls really need to get some better training.

    State Dept Gets $40 Million to Fund Troll Farm:

    https://news.antiwar.com/2018/02/26/state-dept-gets-40-million-to-fund-troll-farm/

    U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

  24. Noah Way says:

    Syria was never about “Assad putting down peaceful protests”. It is about pipelines – both existing Russian and potential new ones from Qatar that need a route (a la Trans Afghanistan Pipeline), geopolitical dominance, regional destabilization (for Israel and the MIC), and revenge for Putin derailing the imminent US invasion of Syria by brokering a deal for Assad to eliminate chemical weapons.

  25. “What is the matter with us?”

    It isn’t us, Pat, at least not ordinary people like you and me who have no input into policy decisions. It’s the neocons, zionists, and the lunatics in government who are pushing this Russophobia. They have a goal in mind and it looks as though they are afraid to reveal what it is.

    Whatever that goal is, it’s not likely to be good for either the US or Russia.

  26. @Jonathan Tokeley

    Jonathon, he was quoting Pat Buchanan, not talking nonsense himself. I’m sure he agrees with what you said about the referendum.

    Now if you’d ask Pat to stop talking nonsense, that would be like asking a fish not to shit in the water.

  27. MarkinLA says:
    @Quartermaster

    Russia wasn’t going to lose the Sevastopol base, but when Crimea is returned to its rightful owners, they will lose it, as they deserve.

    Are you planning to take it back for them?

  28. polskijoe says:

    Good article.

    But if the US goes after China,
    Russia will probably side with China.
    The US did backstab Russia a couple times.

  29. Miro23 says:

    Yet, what is also clear is that Putin hoped and believed that, with the election of Trump, Russia might be able to restore respectful if not friendly relations with the United States.

    Clearly, Putin wanted that, as did Trump.

    That’s what it looked like, and Trump clearly said that he wanted better relations with Russia.

    The antipathy to Russia comes from the US Deep State, not Trump or the American people. Anti -Russian hysteria is derived entirely from America’s Jewish press and Deep State with their “Russian hacking” and “influencing elections” stories – as if the Israel lobby doesn’t influence US elections??

    USA as a country, has been hopelessly captured by Zionist Jews who have their own agenda directed against Russia (and the US public).

  30. I was perusing the American Cuckservative, as I do rarely, when I saw the Buchanan article first. The Headline read TIME TO GET OVER THE RUSSOPHILIA. They have since corrected it.
    This epitomises the Cuck’s view of the matter. Buchanan,the Alt-Right and others are Russophiles standing in the way of robust action against a threatening Russian dictatorship.

    As regards Mr Buchanan’s journalism, I’ll say this. In the past, he was regarded highly for his nuanced approach. Now increasing sloppiness has appeared. The Crimea error was schoolboy stuff. Of course, he’s nearly 80 and probably heavily reliant on researchers. Therein lies the rub. I think it best if he retires or drastically reduces production of new pieces.

  31. Again, what is the matter with this generation?

    Neocons, Izzy firsters, and globalist banksters, mostly. Then there are the stooges like the McCainiacs and the Hillaryhyenas Then we have stupid, gullible people who believe their rot, essentially the rot believed by preceding generations including the brain dead, unquestioning, “greatest” generation of pseudo tough guy servile suck ups.

    Boycott ‘em, mock ‘em, and play the victim card just like the imaginary heroes and bureaucrat messiahs typically do.

  32. @Jonathan Tokeley

    which contractually was allowed to host 10,000 troops, was not involved.

    Actually, it was 25,000, I believe.

  33. KenH says:

    Bibi Netanyahu has met many times with Putin,

    That’s because Bibi is playing good cop while he outsources the role of bad cop to the Jewish diaspora in the West and specifically AIPAC. This is in keeping with the age old Jewish strategy of betting on both horses so only a certain segment of Jewry gets blamed and reaps the consequences.

    Putin has to know this and the power American Jews and their goy auxiliaries have over U.S. foreign policy.

  34. WHAT says:
    @Jonathan Tokeley

    I`ve been right there on the ground in Simferopol and Sevastopol in May`14 and locals have told me in very clear terms that there very much were “little green people” in the streets, on intersections(with MGs) and on the roofs of important buildings.

    Regardless, I`ll never blame Mother Russia for rejoining with her people and her territory. Especially considering just how much of shitshow Ukraine post-Maidan turned out to be(and how much more self-destruction is coming at it).

  35. Rurik says:

    After peaceful protests in Syria were put down by Bashar Assad, we sent arms to Syrian rebels to overthrow the Damascus regime.

    as many of you have already pointed out, I too wince when I read Buchanan wrongly characterizing the sovereign, legitimate and recognized, (not to mention voted for and popular) Damascus government of Bashar Assad, as a ‘regime’.

    why use the newspeak of the Fiend, Pat?

    What is the matter with us?

    as if you didn’t know..

    ((they’ve)) left Russia and the Soviet Union (Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, etc…) and come here. Now this (the dying [murdered] West) is their playground.

    duh

    they were so keen to get here, that they didn’t leave enough of them behind to protect their investments, and Putin wrested Russia out from under their demonic, Satanic grip.

    Yet all we seem to hear from our elite is endless whining that Putin has not been sanctioned enough for desecrating “our democracy.”

    but as usual, Pat redeems himself by showing his true colors.

    he puts “our democracy” in quotes, demonstrating that he agrees with the rest of us critics that the ZUS has hardly anything in common with the USA of our memories. (Norman Rockwell paintings and Jonny Carson on TV and anti-war marches)

    And that it’s Putin’s Russia that represents the values and virtues of our (Western people’s) blood.

    The nature of the love between a man and a woman, and the sanctity and deep, personal meaning of a family.

    nationalism

    respect for Christian traditions

    No! to homo parades in the city streets of the capital, (or defiling the cathedrals with vulgar antics)

    Hope for the children of your nation, rather than building a ‘multi-cultural, diversity’ where they’ll have no future.

    and that is why ((they)) hate his guts and want him dead

    they and their stooges like the “McCainiacs and the Hillaryhyenas” (as has already been pointed out ; )

    But just consider, the McCainiac is rotting from his brain, and no-doubt glimpsing into the eternity of Dante’s Ninth he so vastly deserves.

    here’s a nice dramatization of what it will be like for John McBlooodstain when his reward finally comes…

    start at 1:06

    ‘you’re dead McBloodstain’

    and then for ‘Hillaryhyena’, watching the Donald getting on and off Air Force One, schmoozing with world leaders and wielding power

    ..this for the gorgon war sow, this is a fate worse then the depths of hell itself. ;)

    we live in interesting times

  36. @Quartermaster

    “Russia wasn’t going to lose the Sevastopol base, but when Crimea is returned to its rightful owners, they will lose it, as they deserve.”

    Who might the rightful owners be? The Ukranians, the Turks from whom Russia took the place a couple hundred years ago, or should we go back to the Scythians?

    • Replies: @polskijoe
  37. polskijoe says: • Website
    @The Alarmist

    All those plus more:
    The Greeks had colonies, the Romans, Goths, and various Turkics (Tatars, Khazars). East Europe was had tons of groups moving, settling, and so on.

    In modern terms:
    The Russians (1750s+) have larger claims to it than the Ukrainians (1950s).

    I see little evidence of influence the early Rus had that much south. Maybe some bickering with Khazars. (here I may be wrong).

  38. Yet, with the Beltway hysteria over hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails, and the Russophobia raging in this capital, we appear to be paralyzed when it comes to engaging with Russia.

    The Podesta emails were NOT HACKED. They were leaked.
    Russiagate is a LIE.
    And Pat. Who the hell is “we”.

  39. Dmitry says:

    I wonder about the Russophobia as well as Americanophobia .

    Psychologically people need a bad guy to throw shit at – and Russia is one of the popular options select to in the West, with it accepted as not politically incorrect hatred.

    It’s obvious when it crosses a line from criticism, to irrational and unfair. And a lot of recent events combine both, with the irrational and unfair becoming more and more as there is an emotional tone in the Russophobic commentary.

    Americanophobia is not much different, with a disclaimer that Americans are actually having subtler certain worldwide negative soft-power effects (also they have some positive soft-power effects), mainly due to their power vast over world culture, particularly popular culture. Although technology is the greater cause of the deterioration of high culture.

    A lot of Americanophobia is also emotional though and based on lack of knowledge of Americans (which are not bad people – most of them), and supports interests of certain politicians, who also want to deflect blame onto an cause outside the country.

  40. @Achmed E. Newman

    It is anarcho-tyranny at this point, from top to bottom.

    “Anarcho-tyranny?” We should have it so good!

    It’s always been a klepto-pluto-tyranny, unfortunately..

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  41. @jacques sheete

    “Anarcho-tyranny?” We should have it so good!

    I don’t think you read from my links above, Jack. It’s not good for anyone who wants to live in a civilization. The scum get all the breaks, and the good people are regulated all to hell.

    Your description doesn’t sound too awful good either, I’ll admit.

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What Was John McCain's True Wartime Record in Vietnam?
Hundreds of POWs may have been left to die in Vietnam, abandoned by their government—and our media.
Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?
The evidence is clear — but often ignored
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.