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Has President Donald Trump outsourced foreign policy to the generals?

So it would seem. Candidate Trump held out his hand to Vladimir Putin. He rejected further U.S. intervention in Syria other than to smash ISIS.

He spoke of getting out and staying out of the misbegotten Middle East wars into which Presidents Bush II and Obama had plunged the country.

President Trump’s seeming renunciation of an anti-interventionist foreign policy is the great surprise of the first 100 days, and the most ominous. For any new war could vitiate the Trump mandate and consume his presidency.

Trump no longer calls NATO “obsolete,” but moves U.S. troops toward Russia in the Baltic and eastern Balkans. Rex Tillerson, holder of Russia’s Order of Friendship, now warns that the U.S. will not lift sanctions on Russia until she gets out of Ukraine.

If Tillerson is not bluffing, that would rule out any rapprochement in the Trump presidency. For neither Putin, nor any successor, could surrender Crimea and survive.

What happened to the Trump of 2016?

When did Kiev’s claim to Crimea become more crucial to us than a cooperative relationship with a nuclear-armed Russia? In 1991, Bush I and Secretary of State James Baker thought the very idea of Ukraine’s independence was the product of a “suicidal nationalism.”

Where do we think this demonization of Putin and ostracism of Russia is going to lead?

To get Xi Jinping to help with our Pyongyang problem, Trump has dropped all talk of befriending Taiwan, backed off Tillerson’s warning to Beijing to vacate its fortified reefs in the South China Sea, and held out promises of major concessions to Beijing in future trade deals.

“I like (Xi Jinping) and I believe he likes me a lot,” Trump said this week. One recalls FDR admonishing Churchill, “I think I can personally handle Stalin better than … your Foreign Office … Stalin hates the guts of all your people. He thinks he likes me better.”

FDR did not live to see what a fool Stalin had made of him.

Among the achievements celebrated in Trump’s first 100 days are the 59 cruise missiles launched at the Syrian airfield from which the gas attack on civilians allegedly came, and the dropping of the 22,000-pound MOAB bomb in Afghanistan.
But what did these bombings accomplish?

The War Party seems again ascendant. John McCain and Lindsey Graham are happy campers. In Afghanistan, the U.S. commander is calling for thousands more U.S. troops to assist the 8,500 still there, to stabilize an Afghan regime and army that is steadily losing ground to the Taliban.

Iran is back on the front burner. While Tillerson concedes that Tehran is in compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal, Trump says it is violating “the spirit of the agreement.”

How so? Says Tillerson, Iran is “destabilizing” the region, and threatening U.S. interests in Syria, Yemen, Iraq and Lebanon.

ORDER IT NOW

But Iran is an ally of Syria and was invited in to help the U.N.-recognized government put down an insurrection that contains elements of al-Qaida and ISIS. It is we, the Turks, Saudis and Gulf Arabs who have been backing the rebels seeking to overthrow the regime.

In Yemen, Houthi rebels overthrew and expelled a Saudi satrap. The bombing, blockading and intervention with troops is being done by Saudi and Sunni Arabs, assisted by the U.S. Navy and Air Force.

It is we and the Saudis who are talking of closing the Yemeni port of Hodeida, which could bring on widespread starvation.

It was not Iran, but the U.S. that invaded Iraq, overthrew the Baghdad regime and occupied the country. It was not Iran that overthrew Col. Gadhafi and created the current disaster in Libya.

Monday, the USS Mahan fired a flare to warn off an Iranian patrol boat, 1,000 meters away. Supposedly, this was a provocation. But Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif had a point when he tweeted:

“Breaking: Our Navy operates in — yes, correct — the Persian Gulf, not the Gulf of Mexico. Question is what US Navy doing 7,500 miles from home.”

Who is behind the seeming conversion of Trump to hawk?

The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.

And their agenda for America?

We are to recognize that our true enemy in the Mideast is not al-Qaida or ISIS, but Shiite Iran and Hezbollah, Assad’s Syria and his patron, Putin. And until Hezbollah is eviscerated, Assad is gone, and Iran is smashed the way we did Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen, the flowering of Middle East democracy that we all seek cannot truly begin.

But before President Trump proceeds along the path laid out for him by his generals, brave and patriotic men that they are, he should discover if any of them opposed any of the idiotic wars of the last 15 years, beginning with that greatest of strategic blunders — George Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, out in May, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Trump is a fool. That’s all there is to say. He will accomplish nothing as president and be wiped out in a huge Democratic landslide in 2020. Fool.

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    • Agree: Realist, Kiza
    • Replies: @Anon
    Maybe a fool is all he can manage in the prison that is the White House.
    , @jacques sheete

    Trump is a fool.
     
    Anyone over the age of 12 who would want the job is a fool. Anyone who casts ballots for such crackpot biped cloacas is a fool as well.
    , @Anon
    Looks like Linh Dinh was right about Trump.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/
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  2. Mr Buchanan, I like you, I’ve always liked you. You’re one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn’t a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren’t like you. They’ll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.

    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn’t win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.

    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren’t duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.

    I’m just sad that they duped you too.

    I hope you’re well, may Allah subhana wa ta’ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

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    • Replies: @utu
    I agree with you. I imagine that Trump personality , character, beliefs, weaknesses, entanglements, all possible leverages were throughly analyzed and it was decided that Trump can be controlled and made do what even Hillary would not be willing to do. They, the controllers, have a big plan for Trump.
    , @Ace
    You say "Islamophobia" like it's a bad thing.
    , @Corvinus
    "Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren’t like you. They’ll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda."

    False News Story.
    , @Bobzilla

    You’re one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn’t a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist
     
    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.
    , @joe webb
    if you read his books, you will see that Pat is a smoldering racist.

    JW
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    I used to respect PJW, but now I realise that he and his guest are total conservative morons. His gest has an even lower level of knowledge and intelligence - and he truly looks it. I came to this conclusion after listening to their third segment about North Korea, although the guest is full of bull on the first two as well. It is so hard to find someone in US who is not a propaganda brainwashed moron, no wonder that shitty country is about to take humanity to its end.

    After his bull about North Korea I respect PJW as much as I respect DJT - trash both. When will all these US smelly shits understand that how people of NK live is absolutely none of their business. F.O. N.K. U.S. MORONS.

    Here is an American who does make a lot of sense, but has been marginalised by all the aggressive and oppinionated US shits: https://www.thenation.com/article/mounting-incitements-to-war-with-russia/

    Thanks for this link, it turned me permanently off the Infowars.

    , @Z-man
    These two guys are much better than that whacko Alex Jones. Alex, please resign!
    Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Molyneux names to remember.
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  4. reiner Tor says: • Website

    I had heard before that US generals threatened to resign en masse under Dubya if Dubya was to attack Iran. Is it true? I’m starting to doubt that. More recently I read stories about how hawkish many generals are. So it seems generals are fools with a hammer who mistake anything that sticks out for a nail.

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    • Replies: @RodW
    No it wasn't en masse. Admiral Fallon notably said that no Iran war would take place on his watch, and there were a couple of other high ranks who made dissenting noises.
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  5. Free Press organisations complain about that free press is threatened.
    What they in fact complain about is that Trump and Dutch Wilders despise them, and bypass them on Twitter.
    The media still can bring their biased ‘information’, that is not much more than propaganda for real power.
    The Trump change, for real, or to confuse real power, I see as the expression of real, undemocratic power.
    We can just wait an see what the outcome will be.
    One way or another if real power prevails it will be the end of the USA, economically, or militarily.
    War against Russia will be the end of the human race, there is no defense against 1600 intercontinental rockets each with four or five warheads.

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  6. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Trump is a fool. That's all there is to say. He will accomplish nothing as president and be wiped out in a huge Democratic landslide in 2020. Fool.

    Maybe a fool is all he can manage in the prison that is the White House.

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    • Replies: @Aren Haich
    It is about time for Pat Buchanan to wake up to the present day reality of America and Trump presidency.
    Trump is out of his depth playing POTUS. Trump is no longer in charge! The Establishment has taken over, tamed and put Trump under leash. The Establishment will humor him and put up with his antics as long as he doesn't get out of hand.
    It has taken less than 100 days for other nations to see through Trump's foreign policy bluffs, which he calls "strong negotiating positions". They are being seen as what they really are: bluffs. A silly gesture such as putting 100 Senators on a bus, firing cruise missiles at Syria or dropping MOAB in Afghanistan does not frighten China, Russia or North Korea; nevertheless they might feign fear and respect to play along.
    Trump's domestic agenda is in shambles. His ascendance to presidency has decimated and wreaked havoc in the GOP top. The Republican party is divided as never before. There is no strong leader in sight among Republicans to reassemble the party and impose unity; all thanks to Donald J. Trump.
    Mitt Romney was probably right when he said Trump is a phony, a fake; but then he went begging Trump for a job in his cabinet.
    In the meantime Mike Pence is trying to look presidential and be ready. The call to duty might arrive unexpectedly.
    , @ProfessorChops
    I think the White House cannot manage anymore fools!
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  7. Miro23 says:

    But before President Trump proceeds along the path laid out for him by his generals, brave and patriotic men that they are, he should discover if any of them opposed any of the idiotic wars of the last 15 years, beginning with that greatest of strategic blunders — George Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

    I would re-write this:

    But before President Trump proceeds along the path laid out for him by the Plutocratic/Zionist Deep State, brave and patriotic men that they aren’t, he should discover if all of them supported all of the idiotic wars of the last 15 years, beginning with their greatest of strategic success — George Bush’s invasion of Iraq.

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  8. utu says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Mr Buchanan, I like you, I've always liked you. You're one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn't a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren't like you. They'll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.


    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn't win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.


    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren't duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.


    I'm just sad that they duped you too.


    I hope you're well, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

    I agree with you. I imagine that Trump personality , character, beliefs, weaknesses, entanglements, all possible leverages were throughly analyzed and it was decided that Trump can be controlled and made do what even Hillary would not be willing to do. They, the controllers, have a big plan for Trump.

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    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbN2GEYW9w

    "If you're waging war in the shared field of consciousness . . . shaping consensus beliefs . . . the criminal cabal that is running this is very good at displacing facts with pre-cooked intelligence . . . that the 'mark' -- the US populace -- can be induced to believe is true.

    "This operates in a very large scale, in media and in the "in-between domains" -- a substantial critical mass of influence . . . to induce us to believe things that are simply not true.

    "How do you displace facts, which are necessary for an informed choice, with beliefs, to the extent we would send our young people to die.

    "Who would do this, other than a criminal syndicate . . ."

    "Assets and how they operate in the criminal [syndicate] domain: John McCain is a perfect example:
    An asset is someone who has been profiled in sufficient depth, that if you put them in a time, place and circumstance you know within an acceptable range of probability that they will perform consistent with their personality profile . . ."
    , @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    He has a pathological need for validation. Tell him how strong and smart he'll look by invading Iran for Israel, and he'll do it.
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  9. Why would Trump say that he thought Xi liked him? Is he subtle enough under all his windy bluster to think it worth making Xi wonder if he is an artless simpleton – or is he indeed a simpleton who might even believe that Xi likes him and that it matters?

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    Or perhaps Trump's intended audience is artless simpletons.
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  10. The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.

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    The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.
     
    With all his property, he's vulnerable in the extreme.
    , @S2
    "The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump."


    I think it was the Arlington real estate deal.

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  11. Realist says:

    “Who is behind the seeming conversion of Trump to hawk?”

    Is it a conversion or reversion?

    Doesn’t matter the guy is an asshat. This country is on a shit slide to obliteration.

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  12. wayfarer says:

    Not to worry.

    What generals can’t fix through destructive wars, politicians will fix through constructive multiculturalism, and western religions (Christianity, Islam and Judaism) will fix through the spiritual unification of humanity.

    If you believe this, please make a generous donation (tax refundable) to the church, temple, or mosque of your choice.

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  13. wayfarer says:

    Forgot to mention that benevolent Illuminati bankers will be doing their part to help humanity as well, by printing / lending more fiat currency and rigging / controlling a rapidly emerging technocracy.

    Cash to be replaced by cards, coming to a bank near you!

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  14. The problem is that USA is totally intruthworthy, unreliable, lying entity that no agreement or even negotiations is possible. Yesterday there was article stating opinion by Russian General Staff in regard to ABM systems being placed in Russia and China vicinity. General Staff representative was straightforward in General Staff assessment as to what USA is doing namely preparing conditions for nuclear strike on Russia. The whole gradual development looks is very gradual which is called “tihii sap” or “tihim sapom” in Russian. Having extensive experience in my youth years in direct physical confrontations I would say nobody would do what USA is doing without intent to strike. Now, with new puppet in charge who tends to be the most inedequate and crazy of all POTUSes I remember starting with Nixon and neo cons and generals being in control I wonder where and how fast it is all going. I perfectly understand Russia’s fear of war and attempts to avoid confrontation but from history I find it not very reassuring as Russia has never been able to avoid war with someone who wants it so badly. Ounce of prevention is better than treatment later. Hence I wonder if and when Russia and what it would take for Russia to do something about it.

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    • Agree: Kiza, bluedog
    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?
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  15. Z-man says:

    Patrick, have you talked to Donald lately???? If not get your ass over there to Mar-a-Lago!!!!!

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  16. geokat62 says:

    Who is behind the seeming conversion of Trump to hawk?

    The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.

    We all know who should be receiving top billing in this list… and it ain’t the generals.

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    We can't really tell, but if the guy in the picture at the top of this post is politically astute, the placard he's holding probably reads:

    Iraq, Libya, Syria:

    ENDLESS
    WAR
    FOR
    ISRAEL
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  17. Johann says:

    Don’t forget those millions of Yankee Doodle dandies with their cretinous “USA USA USA” chants who think war is a football game. Maybe a nuked NYC Or DC willmwakevthem up.

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    • Replies: @Ace
    A chant of "USA" is not an indication of enthusiasm for war. No part of the Trump campaign indicated that war with Russia was in the card.
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  18. @utu
    I agree with you. I imagine that Trump personality , character, beliefs, weaknesses, entanglements, all possible leverages were throughly analyzed and it was decided that Trump can be controlled and made do what even Hillary would not be willing to do. They, the controllers, have a big plan for Trump.

    “If you’re waging war in the shared field of consciousness . . . shaping consensus beliefs . . . the criminal cabal that is running this is very good at displacing facts with pre-cooked intelligence . . . that the ‘mark’ — the US populace — can be induced to believe is true.

    “This operates in a very large scale, in media and in the “in-between domains” — a substantial critical mass of influence . . . to induce us to believe things that are simply not true.

    “How do you displace facts, which are necessary for an informed choice, with beliefs, to the extent we would send our young people to die.

    “Who would do this, other than a criminal syndicate . . .”

    “Assets and how they operate in the criminal [syndicate] domain: John McCain is a perfect example:
    An asset is someone who has been profiled in sufficient depth, that if you put them in a time, place and circumstance you know within an acceptable range of probability that they will perform consistent with their personality profile . . .”

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    • Replies: @LondonBob
    I have watched Jeff Gates before, his stuff is very good.
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  19. annamaria says:

    “The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.
    And their agenda for America?”
    Simple: The brass, Israel-firsters (neocons, ziocons, and Congressional hawks), Israelis, and Saudis want their juicy gescheft, for the American citizenry expense, of course.

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  20. Kiza says:
    @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYmqm05Lx7s

    I used to respect PJW, but now I realise that he and his guest are total conservative morons. His gest has an even lower level of knowledge and intelligence – and he truly looks it. I came to this conclusion after listening to their third segment about North Korea, although the guest is full of bull on the first two as well. It is so hard to find someone in US who is not a propaganda brainwashed moron, no wonder that shitty country is about to take humanity to its end.

    After his bull about North Korea I respect PJW as much as I respect DJT – trash both. When will all these US smelly shits understand that how people of NK live is absolutely none of their business. F.O. N.K. U.S. MORONS.

    Here is an American who does make a lot of sense, but has been marginalised by all the aggressive and oppinionated US shits: https://www.thenation.com/article/mounting-incitements-to-war-with-russia/

    Thanks for this link, it turned me permanently off the Infowars.

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  21. Kiza says:

    The North Korean crisis is a manufactured crisis. The little dictator has not done anything worse than what he has been doing before. Even his and his father’s bluster, in response to US threats and provocative military maneuvers, are still the same as over the last 20-30 years. But all of a sudden US finds it unacceptable. If they could blame NK for gassing or nuking some blond children they would have, but there are no blond children anywhere nearby. In reality, it is nothing to do with NK and all to do with an aggressive strategic US move against China and Russia, to place missile defence on their Eastern doorstep.

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.

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    The Pentagon is worried about the pro peace SK government that is about to be voted in.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.
     
    So is THAAD since nobody can block polar trajectories, to start with. This is not to speak of such things as RS-28 Sarmat, not to mention that actual effectiveness of THAAD against intercontinental ballistic targets is about 10%--this is abysmal. The real danger, as I said many times, is not THAAD per se--there are many ways to mitigate or simply destroy its batteries--it is US political class living completely in La-La-Land of US weapons' alleged effectiveness, which in reality is the staff of CGI graphics, augmented trials, colorful pamphlets and Power Point Presentation. THAAD is not a real danger, US powers that be are, since they base a lot of their decisions on a complete baloney. That is what "peers" are afraid of--the military and political establishment which lost every single war it fought after WW II and still think itself to be "the greatest in the world".
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  22. LondonBob says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlbN2GEYW9w

    "If you're waging war in the shared field of consciousness . . . shaping consensus beliefs . . . the criminal cabal that is running this is very good at displacing facts with pre-cooked intelligence . . . that the 'mark' -- the US populace -- can be induced to believe is true.

    "This operates in a very large scale, in media and in the "in-between domains" -- a substantial critical mass of influence . . . to induce us to believe things that are simply not true.

    "How do you displace facts, which are necessary for an informed choice, with beliefs, to the extent we would send our young people to die.

    "Who would do this, other than a criminal syndicate . . ."

    "Assets and how they operate in the criminal [syndicate] domain: John McCain is a perfect example:
    An asset is someone who has been profiled in sufficient depth, that if you put them in a time, place and circumstance you know within an acceptable range of probability that they will perform consistent with their personality profile . . ."

    I have watched Jeff Gates before, his stuff is very good.

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  23. LondonBob says:
    @Kiza
    The North Korean crisis is a manufactured crisis. The little dictator has not done anything worse than what he has been doing before. Even his and his father's bluster, in response to US threats and provocative military maneuvers, are still the same as over the last 20-30 years. But all of a sudden US finds it unacceptable. If they could blame NK for gassing or nuking some blond children they would have, but there are no blond children anywhere nearby. In reality, it is nothing to do with NK and all to do with an aggressive strategic US move against China and Russia, to place missile defence on their Eastern doorstep.

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.

    The Pentagon is worried about the pro peace SK government that is about to be voted in.

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  24. My experiences with military officers is that a “conversation” consists of them talking, and you listening, not unlike our previous emperor-king obozo. They are always right and do not need to listen to you or anyone. They also are politicians. They have their mind made up on pretty much everything, and have the mental flexibility and spirit of compromise similar to that of a huge block of concrete.

    The world is to be run under military rules and military leadership and that is that and what was that you said SHUT UP. Cost? Taxpayer opinion? What are those? Just give us all the money we ask for b/c we know how things work. Debt? Dead soldiers in a sand pit 8,000 miles from home? Didn’t I just tell you to SHUT UP? Go back to work, give us your tax money, we are the military. This from a person who generally respects the military and has many friends in the military.

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  25. Z-man says:
    @Anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYmqm05Lx7s

    These two guys are much better than that whacko Alex Jones. Alex, please resign!
    Paul Joseph Watson and Stefan Molyneux names to remember.

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  26. @Anon
    Trump is a fool. That's all there is to say. He will accomplish nothing as president and be wiped out in a huge Democratic landslide in 2020. Fool.

    Trump is a fool.

    Anyone over the age of 12 who would want the job is a fool. Anyone who casts ballots for such crackpot biped cloacas is a fool as well.

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    I saw a bumper sticker yesterday. "If voting made any difference it would be illegal."
    , @bluedog
    Of course they are for all anyone had to do was check his back ground his distain for small business and the working class.
    , @Ace
    We had such wonderful choices.
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  27. @The Alarmist
    The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.

    The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.

    With all his property, he’s vulnerable in the extreme.

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  28. @Kiza
    The North Korean crisis is a manufactured crisis. The little dictator has not done anything worse than what he has been doing before. Even his and his father's bluster, in response to US threats and provocative military maneuvers, are still the same as over the last 20-30 years. But all of a sudden US finds it unacceptable. If they could blame NK for gassing or nuking some blond children they would have, but there are no blond children anywhere nearby. In reality, it is nothing to do with NK and all to do with an aggressive strategic US move against China and Russia, to place missile defence on their Eastern doorstep.

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.

    So is THAAD since nobody can block polar trajectories, to start with. This is not to speak of such things as RS-28 Sarmat, not to mention that actual effectiveness of THAAD against intercontinental ballistic targets is about 10%–this is abysmal. The real danger, as I said many times, is not THAAD per se–there are many ways to mitigate or simply destroy its batteries–it is US political class living completely in La-La-Land of US weapons’ alleged effectiveness, which in reality is the staff of CGI graphics, augmented trials, colorful pamphlets and Power Point Presentation. THAAD is not a real danger, US powers that be are, since they base a lot of their decisions on a complete baloney. That is what “peers” are afraid of–the military and political establishment which lost every single war it fought after WW II and still think itself to be “the greatest in the world”.

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    Andrei, the keyphrase in your comment is "to start with". I appreciate well that what they have now in Poland, Romania and North Korea cannot do the job (whatever the percentage rate is). But it is opening the doors up for the much bigger and much better - politically. As to the polar route, this is why US has its Canadian satellite. When the ABMD technology reaches the right level, Canada will get it too. US is also politically present in the southern belly of Euroasia - the Stans and will place ABMD there if and when ready and needed. Ok, perhaps I overstated that the encirclement is the existing three sites only.

    To LondonBob - do you think that it would be easy for a new peace-oriented South Korean president to get rid of an established ABMD without a huge political cost? The US puppets in SK would scream murder that he is exposing SK to the Northern madman. In other words, THAAD is primarily a smart political and a strategic move by US, to put the foot in the door. It will be very, very, very hard for the three countries to get rid of ABMD once it is in. And ABMD will grow and grow, as long as US can print the world's money.

    Finally, I do believe that the primary goal of ABMD is not to nuke Russia and China then to dominate them, or even to force them to capitulate, or at least to convince the domestics that they could survive a nuclear war against the two. They need a dumb, self-confident America to keep fighting Russia and China.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    Andrei, The whole American mindset is heavily based upon image, not substance. The risk imho is that based upon those false assumptions those who make decisions can do crazy things including preventive nuclear strike on Russia based solely upon illusions and miscalculations. Bonaparte and Hitler both miscalculated which did not prevent them from doing what they did. Now those who make decisions are making calculations and sooner or later they can finally make a decision to proceed. So, what Russia can do to through an enormous monkey wrench to change those calculations, reveal illusions and on basic level to scare those who make decisions. The main issue is lack of fear on their part due to lack of really painful experience or even imagining one.
    , @Ace
    You confuse military incapability with political interference. Rules of engagement and diplomats can be guaranteed to reverse all American battlefield gains.
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  29. Neoconned says:

    Russia did ‘annex’ Ukraine.

    But it happened in 1793. I believe George Washington was President at the time.

    Which leads to two comments….
    1) I’ll take America’s complaints about Crimea seriously if someone can point to a statement from President Washington’s administration complaining about the annexation. Did Thomas Jefferson register a complaint? Perhaps the Democrats new pro-banker darling Alexander Hamilton who was Chief of Staff to President Washington?

    2) Crimea has been Russia for as long as the United States existed. Russians are going to feel about giving away Crimea about the same as American’s would feel about giving away Massachusetts. Well, hmmm, maybe that’s not such a bad idea. But Crimea was always a southern sea-side area where the politically favored kept their dachas, so maybe the Russians like it better than a smog-filled Boston traffic jam?

    3) Historically, Crimea was NEVER Ukraine. If you look at old maps, even when Ukraine was subjugated under the power Polish-Lithuanian empire and it was at its peak of power, Crimea was always a separate Khanate or other form of country. The Russians eventually took the region in their drive for a ‘warm-water port’, but the Ukrainians only controlled the area rarely if at all.

    The whole thing was a bizarre neo-con dream-think that somehow they could deprive Russia of a major naval base in Sevastopol. But it turned out that the Russians weren’t any more likely to give it away than the US would surrender Norfolk. And like most neo-con dream-plans, they failed to account that their enemies might make moves to counter the plan. All neocon plans are based on the notion that only the US gets to make moves on the chess board. And thus they all fail. And now the neo-cons are throwing a temper-tantrum and threatening the world with nuclear destruction because yet another of their silly plans didn’t work.

    Then they wonder why people vote against their nonsense, finally, after way too many years, and instead blame it their latest defeat on imaginary Russian plots.

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    • Replies: @Kiza
    Thank you for this brief historical outline. But you are a little mistaken about the neocon plans with the so called Ukrainian Democratic Revolution, that is regime change.

    The primary goal of the neocons was to create a Nazi sore right on the Russian border (they knew about Galicians very well). The secondary goal was to either take Crimea and the Russian warm port with it for NATO, or to create a baseball bat to keep clubbing Russia with until Russia goes bankrupt due to economic sanctions or until the end of the neocon times in power. Putin dared to make a move and it turned out to be the latter. Now, there is no mention of Russia in the Western Main Sewer Media which does not mention "Annexation of Crimea". This is the sheer power of MSM sewerage at work, there is no reason in it. Any Russians who tries to reason with the West about Crimea is a complete fool - this is why Putin never even talks about it with any Westerner. Putin understands exceptionally well that the sanctions are there to stay forever - Crimea is the tool for economic sanctions and a universal justification for the military build up on Russian borders.

    In other words, with the takeover of Ukraine the neocons had a win-win proposition for themselves whatever Russia decided to do. Arguably, the neocons needed the return of Crimea to Russia even more than its navy base, to feed their global media sewage machine against Russia and keep all their ducks/puppets in a row. Is this not obvious?

    , @Z-man
    I take exception to Boston being called a smog filled traffic nightmare. I've visited Boston and I find it quaint and charming. Small and easily manageable compared to NYC. They are the home of the Boston Red Sox and by pedigree the New England Patriots. The Patriots? I hate the NE Patriots, I hate Bill Belichick, I really hate Robert Kraft...never mind, Nuke Boston!! (Grin)
    The rest of your post is good.
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  30. Kiza says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.
     
    So is THAAD since nobody can block polar trajectories, to start with. This is not to speak of such things as RS-28 Sarmat, not to mention that actual effectiveness of THAAD against intercontinental ballistic targets is about 10%--this is abysmal. The real danger, as I said many times, is not THAAD per se--there are many ways to mitigate or simply destroy its batteries--it is US political class living completely in La-La-Land of US weapons' alleged effectiveness, which in reality is the staff of CGI graphics, augmented trials, colorful pamphlets and Power Point Presentation. THAAD is not a real danger, US powers that be are, since they base a lot of their decisions on a complete baloney. That is what "peers" are afraid of--the military and political establishment which lost every single war it fought after WW II and still think itself to be "the greatest in the world".

    Andrei, the keyphrase in your comment is “to start with”. I appreciate well that what they have now in Poland, Romania and North Korea cannot do the job (whatever the percentage rate is). But it is opening the doors up for the much bigger and much better – politically. As to the polar route, this is why US has its Canadian satellite. When the ABMD technology reaches the right level, Canada will get it too. US is also politically present in the southern belly of Euroasia – the Stans and will place ABMD there if and when ready and needed. Ok, perhaps I overstated that the encirclement is the existing three sites only.

    To LondonBob – do you think that it would be easy for a new peace-oriented South Korean president to get rid of an established ABMD without a huge political cost? The US puppets in SK would scream murder that he is exposing SK to the Northern madman. In other words, THAAD is primarily a smart political and a strategic move by US, to put the foot in the door. It will be very, very, very hard for the three countries to get rid of ABMD once it is in. And ABMD will grow and grow, as long as US can print the world’s money.

    Finally, I do believe that the primary goal of ABMD is not to nuke Russia and China then to dominate them, or even to force them to capitulate, or at least to convince the domestics that they could survive a nuclear war against the two. They need a dumb, self-confident America to keep fighting Russia and China.

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  31. Neoconned says:

    Correction, I meant to say “Russia did annex Crimea” in the first sentence.

    They did also annex Ukraine, but I believe that came later. Crimea and the warm-water port came first.

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  32. annamaria says:

    “Retired Green Beret Warns: “We’re At The Threshold Of War…The Choice Is Not Up To Us Anymore,” Authored by Jeremiah Johnson (nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces) via SHTFplan.com

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/retired-green-beret-warns-were-threshold-warthe-choice-not-us-anymore

    Could not we send the whole cabal of the warmongers to the trenches? The ziocons (treasonous by definition) & the US/NATO brass (profiteering & treasonous along with ziocons) should follow their mouths to the places of their choice of more military confrontations. And here is another simple idea: imposition of a 90% war tax on the US “haves” (including US brass) to “support the troops” in any of the ongoing and future military conflicts.

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    Our $20T in debt phases these people not in the least. My head dizzies when I think of all the military bases we have constructed all over the world, and the cost of the vast number of soldiers, support staff, and consultants that we pay for in our quest to re-engineer the world in the vision of the military and neocon politicians. The results of this wannabe global empire seem to be mainly massive crippling debt, lots of dead and maimed soldiers, and a lot of locals who don't want us around. not much of an ROI guys. I say let these countries protect themselves. We can't fix every problem in the world

    I am from the Pat Buchanan non-interventionist school and would prefer that we shut down these operations and bring the boys home and save a few $$. When I share this opinion w military friends, they pat me on the head and say well isn't that a quaint idealist happy world vision you have there. You are a naive peacenik civilian that does not understand the world will implode upon itself unless the US bankrupts itself in order to maintain order. Call me unimpressed with the results and ROI.

    I would be willing to take a chance and see how that plays out vs. going down the same path and expecting any different results. As annamaria suggests, if these "warriors" want to fight, let them foot the bill for it and on a plane to their sand hole of choice and kill the "bad guys" that apparently need killing. Go do your thing guys, knock yourself out, but not with my $$. Unless it's protecting the border

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  33. Kiza says:
    @Neoconned
    Russia did 'annex' Ukraine.

    But it happened in 1793. I believe George Washington was President at the time.

    Which leads to two comments....
    1) I'll take America's complaints about Crimea seriously if someone can point to a statement from President Washington's administration complaining about the annexation. Did Thomas Jefferson register a complaint? Perhaps the Democrats new pro-banker darling Alexander Hamilton who was Chief of Staff to President Washington?

    2) Crimea has been Russia for as long as the United States existed. Russians are going to feel about giving away Crimea about the same as American's would feel about giving away Massachusetts. Well, hmmm, maybe that's not such a bad idea. But Crimea was always a southern sea-side area where the politically favored kept their dachas, so maybe the Russians like it better than a smog-filled Boston traffic jam?

    3) Historically, Crimea was NEVER Ukraine. If you look at old maps, even when Ukraine was subjugated under the power Polish-Lithuanian empire and it was at its peak of power, Crimea was always a separate Khanate or other form of country. The Russians eventually took the region in their drive for a 'warm-water port', but the Ukrainians only controlled the area rarely if at all.

    The whole thing was a bizarre neo-con dream-think that somehow they could deprive Russia of a major naval base in Sevastopol. But it turned out that the Russians weren't any more likely to give it away than the US would surrender Norfolk. And like most neo-con dream-plans, they failed to account that their enemies might make moves to counter the plan. All neocon plans are based on the notion that only the US gets to make moves on the chess board. And thus they all fail. And now the neo-cons are throwing a temper-tantrum and threatening the world with nuclear destruction because yet another of their silly plans didn't work.

    Then they wonder why people vote against their nonsense, finally, after way too many years, and instead blame it their latest defeat on imaginary Russian plots.

    Thank you for this brief historical outline. But you are a little mistaken about the neocon plans with the so called Ukrainian Democratic Revolution, that is regime change.

    The primary goal of the neocons was to create a Nazi sore right on the Russian border (they knew about Galicians very well). The secondary goal was to either take Crimea and the Russian warm port with it for NATO, or to create a baseball bat to keep clubbing Russia with until Russia goes bankrupt due to economic sanctions or until the end of the neocon times in power. Putin dared to make a move and it turned out to be the latter. Now, there is no mention of Russia in the Western Main Sewer Media which does not mention “Annexation of Crimea”. This is the sheer power of MSM sewerage at work, there is no reason in it. Any Russians who tries to reason with the West about Crimea is a complete fool – this is why Putin never even talks about it with any Westerner. Putin understands exceptionally well that the sanctions are there to stay forever – Crimea is the tool for economic sanctions and a universal justification for the military build up on Russian borders.

    In other words, with the takeover of Ukraine the neocons had a win-win proposition for themselves whatever Russia decided to do. Arguably, the neocons needed the return of Crimea to Russia even more than its navy base, to feed their global media sewage machine against Russia and keep all their ducks/puppets in a row. Is this not obvious?

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  34. mcohen says:

    This calls for a full alert in the south as of today the 28 the april 2017.may st catherine watch over all who come down from the mountain.on the other hand only a mind reader could understand the north korean dictators plans.should be called THUD instead of thaad

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  35. And until Hezbollah is eviscerated, Assad is gone, and Iran is smashed the way we did Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen, the flowering of Middle East democracy that we all seek cannot truly begin.

    That must be some fine shit that they are smoking.

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  36. @jacques sheete

    Trump is a fool.
     
    Anyone over the age of 12 who would want the job is a fool. Anyone who casts ballots for such crackpot biped cloacas is a fool as well.

    I saw a bumper sticker yesterday. “If voting made any difference it would be illegal.”

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    This is another good one, "If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it." Mark Twain
    , @Sparkon

    If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it.
     
    This cynical observation is usually attributed to Mark Twain, but according to Snopes, and others, there is no record of Twain ever saying or writing it.

    http://www.snopes.com/mark-twain-voting-quote/

    Indeed, there are numerous instances of some memorable or pithy quote incorrectly attributed to this famous person, or that; for example, this familiar claim:

    "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."
     
    This may be true, or not, but there is no record of Abraham Lincoln ever saying or writing it.

    What about this guy, The Great Communicator? Is he on Mt. Rushmore yet?

    Ronald Reagan, arrived at the speaker’s rostrum to rouse the faithful to a renewed dedication to modern Republican ideals.

    He did so by invoking the name of Lincoln—by reminding the delegates of a set of principles Reagan declared had been “eloquently stated” by Lincoln generations earlier. The 40th president went on to quote what he described as the 16th president’s most enduring maxims.

    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

    You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.

    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.

    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.


    As it turned out, it was too good to be true. The fact is, Lincoln had never uttered a word of it. The lines turned out to be the work of an obscure German-born minister from Brooklyn— by the name of William Boetcker—and they dated back to only 1916, 51 long years after Lincoln’s death.
     
    (my edits for brevity)

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/13/you-can-fool-some-of-the-people-all-the-time.html

    Finally, I will close with another of those familiar--at least to some of us--witty, sage aphorisms whose original author remains obscure, but which is commonly attributed to the likes of Twain, Josh Billings, Kin Hubbard, Satchel Page...the list goes on:

    It ain't what you don't know that hurts you,
    It's what you know that just ain't so.
     
    However, in my view, that still ain't quite right.

    The truth is that both ignorance and false knowledge are dangerous.

    And you can quote me on that.
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  37. Agent76 says:

    April 27, 2017 FROM BERKELEY by Tim Pool

    May 1, 2015 “BALTIMORE” from the forthcoming Nina Simone tribute album

    In the 1970’s the legendary artist and civil rights activist, Nina Simone released a song entitled “BALTIMORE.” It spoke to the challenges of urban living, particularly for people of color.

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  38. Agent76 says:
    @another fred
    I saw a bumper sticker yesterday. "If voting made any difference it would be illegal."

    This is another good one, “If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it.” Mark Twain

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  39. nsa says:

    “…the generals, brave and patriotic men that they are……” Oh, really? How about the truth of the matter: less brave than the average house cat, less patriotic than a rainbow flag waver, and in the mad poodle mattis’ case……not even a man….just a sad aging VFW queen.
    Never forget that buchanan was a nixon guy. He supported the vietnam war all the way. He wrote those silly speeches pushing his war long after it had been lost (peace with honor) and has been pushing nixon as a “flawed” visionary ever since. As to the pathetic generals…..they are still cowering from the tet offensive and, in their minds, junior officers ducking fragging grenades and bullets in the back from a conscripted army. Buchanan and the geezer generals are living in the past and need to just disappear. Der Swampster and his vile jooie clan are the new political reality.

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  41. Z-man says:
    @Neoconned
    Russia did 'annex' Ukraine.

    But it happened in 1793. I believe George Washington was President at the time.

    Which leads to two comments....
    1) I'll take America's complaints about Crimea seriously if someone can point to a statement from President Washington's administration complaining about the annexation. Did Thomas Jefferson register a complaint? Perhaps the Democrats new pro-banker darling Alexander Hamilton who was Chief of Staff to President Washington?

    2) Crimea has been Russia for as long as the United States existed. Russians are going to feel about giving away Crimea about the same as American's would feel about giving away Massachusetts. Well, hmmm, maybe that's not such a bad idea. But Crimea was always a southern sea-side area where the politically favored kept their dachas, so maybe the Russians like it better than a smog-filled Boston traffic jam?

    3) Historically, Crimea was NEVER Ukraine. If you look at old maps, even when Ukraine was subjugated under the power Polish-Lithuanian empire and it was at its peak of power, Crimea was always a separate Khanate or other form of country. The Russians eventually took the region in their drive for a 'warm-water port', but the Ukrainians only controlled the area rarely if at all.

    The whole thing was a bizarre neo-con dream-think that somehow they could deprive Russia of a major naval base in Sevastopol. But it turned out that the Russians weren't any more likely to give it away than the US would surrender Norfolk. And like most neo-con dream-plans, they failed to account that their enemies might make moves to counter the plan. All neocon plans are based on the notion that only the US gets to make moves on the chess board. And thus they all fail. And now the neo-cons are throwing a temper-tantrum and threatening the world with nuclear destruction because yet another of their silly plans didn't work.

    Then they wonder why people vote against their nonsense, finally, after way too many years, and instead blame it their latest defeat on imaginary Russian plots.

    I take exception to Boston being called a smog filled traffic nightmare. I’ve visited Boston and I find it quaint and charming. Small and easily manageable compared to NYC. They are the home of the Boston Red Sox and by pedigree the New England Patriots. The Patriots? I hate the NE Patriots, I hate Bill Belichick, I really hate Robert Kraft…never mind, Nuke Boston!! (Grin)
    The rest of your post is good.

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    Well, it certainly was easily managed by the ten thousand jack booted thugs who showed up after the Boston Marathon false flag bombing.
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  42. The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.

    Dumb Dubya had Dick Cheney. Dumb Donald has Jared Kushner.

    You defended him Pat. So did I. Turns out Trump is an extremely dangerous piece of shit. Just like Hillary.

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    No Trump has Jared and Ivanka and Pence triple teaming him with Neolib & Neocon crap. Don't give up on him yet as there is a God and I hope he steers Donald the right way. One thing for him to do is to talk to Buchanan, Rand Paul and others on the paleo right as much as possible. Hear that Pat!
    , @Sowhat
    The "Presidency" is a figurehead. Nothing more and, as another poster stated, "If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it." A more accurate description would be a puppet. He may have good business sense but he's definitely not the sharpest pencil in the drawer. He reminds me of Bush, Jr., having difficulty with the English language and sentence structure.... Just a puppet
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  43. @Andrei Martyanov

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.
     
    So is THAAD since nobody can block polar trajectories, to start with. This is not to speak of such things as RS-28 Sarmat, not to mention that actual effectiveness of THAAD against intercontinental ballistic targets is about 10%--this is abysmal. The real danger, as I said many times, is not THAAD per se--there are many ways to mitigate or simply destroy its batteries--it is US political class living completely in La-La-Land of US weapons' alleged effectiveness, which in reality is the staff of CGI graphics, augmented trials, colorful pamphlets and Power Point Presentation. THAAD is not a real danger, US powers that be are, since they base a lot of their decisions on a complete baloney. That is what "peers" are afraid of--the military and political establishment which lost every single war it fought after WW II and still think itself to be "the greatest in the world".

    Andrei, The whole American mindset is heavily based upon image, not substance. The risk imho is that based upon those false assumptions those who make decisions can do crazy things including preventive nuclear strike on Russia based solely upon illusions and miscalculations. Bonaparte and Hitler both miscalculated which did not prevent them from doing what they did. Now those who make decisions are making calculations and sooner or later they can finally make a decision to proceed. So, what Russia can do to through an enormous monkey wrench to change those calculations, reveal illusions and on basic level to scare those who make decisions. The main issue is lack of fear on their part due to lack of really painful experience or even imagining one.

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  44. “But before President Trump proceeds along the path laid out for him by his generals…he should discover if any of them opposed any of the idiotic wars of the last 15 years.”

    Normally I would comment “War is much too important to be left to the generals”, but disasters in Iraq, Libya and Syria prove that our wars should not be ginned up by Bibi and the Israel Firsters who have been able to get what they want from Congress and the Executive Branch. And now it looks like they are going to get what they want from Trump.

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  45. @annamaria
    "Retired Green Beret Warns: "We're At The Threshold Of War...The Choice Is Not Up To Us Anymore," Authored by Jeremiah Johnson (nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces) via SHTFplan.com
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-27/retired-green-beret-warns-were-threshold-warthe-choice-not-us-anymore
    Could not we send the whole cabal of the warmongers to the trenches? The ziocons (treasonous by definition) & the US/NATO brass (profiteering & treasonous along with ziocons) should follow their mouths to the places of their choice of more military confrontations. And here is another simple idea: imposition of a 90% war tax on the US "haves" (including US brass) to "support the troops" in any of the ongoing and future military conflicts.

    Our $20T in debt phases these people not in the least. My head dizzies when I think of all the military bases we have constructed all over the world, and the cost of the vast number of soldiers, support staff, and consultants that we pay for in our quest to re-engineer the world in the vision of the military and neocon politicians. The results of this wannabe global empire seem to be mainly massive crippling debt, lots of dead and maimed soldiers, and a lot of locals who don’t want us around. not much of an ROI guys. I say let these countries protect themselves. We can’t fix every problem in the world

    I am from the Pat Buchanan non-interventionist school and would prefer that we shut down these operations and bring the boys home and save a few $$. When I share this opinion w military friends, they pat me on the head and say well isn’t that a quaint idealist happy world vision you have there. You are a naive peacenik civilian that does not understand the world will implode upon itself unless the US bankrupts itself in order to maintain order. Call me unimpressed with the results and ROI.

    I would be willing to take a chance and see how that plays out vs. going down the same path and expecting any different results. As annamaria suggests, if these “warriors” want to fight, let them foot the bill for it and on a plane to their sand hole of choice and kill the “bad guys” that apparently need killing. Go do your thing guys, knock yourself out, but not with my $$. Unless it’s protecting the border

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    The US military bases - some 800-1000 of them -- are not about "We can’t fix every problem in the world." The bases have been set to protect the US dollar. That's the first priority. Then there is a theft of natural resources in a host country (think oil, for example). As a nice "by-product," the US military expansion improves the checking accounts of weapon manufacturers and other war profiteers. More recently, the US interventions were directed towards implementation of the Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Your military friends should know better about the goals of the US wars in the Middle East. Killing the millions human being of all ages (including hundreds of thousands of children) and improving the base-line for war profiteers does nothing good for the world.
    , @jacques sheete
    Acouple of quotes from one of the most loyal and prominent American historians of her time.:

    Wherever an army is established, it introduces a revolution in manners, corrupts the morals, propagates every species of vice, and degrades the human character.”

    Mercy Otis Warren, Revolution-era historian,
    History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution vol. 1, Ch3, 1805

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1872
     

    This is usually the case with all armies or detachments from them, in all countries, after they have stood their ground long enough, to feel their strength sufficient to indulge that military tyranny which grows by habit, and makes a standing army a fit instrument for the support of the most cruel despotism and, encouraged by the example of America, they strenuously supported their rights, and made use of the same arguments against a standing army in time of peace, which had been urged in the assemblies and congresses of the colonies.

    Mercy Otis Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution vol. 2> C H A P T E R X X V I

     

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  46. Zogby says:

    I’ve been thinking about the situation that’s developed and here are some 2 cents that have crossed my mind…
    1) When Trump’s presidency began, I was worried that he’d made so many self-conflicted and seemingly delusional promises and plans to voters that’d he’d set himself up to fail for sure. Because he couldn’t possibly make it come true and please everyone. I just didn’t believe he would unravel so quickly. I thought it’d take time before it became apparent he’d been full of baloney from the start.
    2) I don’t agree with generatlizations that paint everyone in the military brass as trigger-happy madmen. It is just as likely that people with military experience would be more cautious than inexperienced civilian leadership. But committing mutiny in the armed forces against a deranged leader is a difficult proposition for anyone in any county at any time in history. Do people believe for instance that noone in the military brass in North Korea views Kim Jung Un just as people on this site likely do? I’m sure there are. Just as there about Donald Trump.
    3) For all that Trump’s done so far, he hasn’t (yet) committed any unspeakable evil that hadn’t been committed more routinely, longer and worse by his predecessors. So what’s changed? What’s changed is the issue of trust. Because Trump appears so outwardly deranged, the same actions that were previously just as evil but committed by superficially sane leaders – Trump is not trusted to do them – and so must be stopped.
    4) I’ve been trying to remember what Trump’s obvious derangement looked like before the election, so let’s focus on one core issue – his announced policy to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. What could he possibly have been thinking? I can think of 3 options
    a) He’s a crackpot. Building a wall is one thing, but no reasonable person could believe Mexico would actually agree to pay for it.
    b) He’s “like Hitler” in that he planned from the outset to invade Mexico and plunder Mexico’s coffers in order to pay for the wall.
    c) He’s a demagogue. He knew very well Mexico wouldn’t pay for it, but in that case – if he still wants to build a wall – US taxpayers would have to pay for it – and do so when the government is 20 trillion dollars in debt. If he’d been honest about who’d have to bear the cost – that would necessarily lead to a rational discussion of whether building and patrolling a 3000-mile wall is a cost-effective way to protect the borders, or if the goal of preventing illegal crossings justifies the cost. That is a discussion Trump did not and still does not want to have, because it could lead people to conclude he’s heading for his 5th bankruptcy – this time taking the USG to chapter 11 instead of his own private business.
    So… I don’t think it’s b) because Trump hasn’t shown any inclination to invade Mexico. That leaves is as either a) or c). Even if it is c) (which a slightly less-bad option than a)) – it still makes him delusional, because Congress would have to fund the wall with tax-payer money, and there’s no way he could avoid a discussion of the utility of this project.
    Just my 2 cents…

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  47. bluedog says:
    @jacques sheete

    Trump is a fool.
     
    Anyone over the age of 12 who would want the job is a fool. Anyone who casts ballots for such crackpot biped cloacas is a fool as well.

    Of course they are for all anyone had to do was check his back ground his distain for small business and the working class.

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  48. Sparkon says:
    @another fred
    I saw a bumper sticker yesterday. "If voting made any difference it would be illegal."

    If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.

    This cynical observation is usually attributed to Mark Twain, but according to Snopes, and others, there is no record of Twain ever saying or writing it.

    http://www.snopes.com/mark-twain-voting-quote/

    Indeed, there are numerous instances of some memorable or pithy quote incorrectly attributed to this famous person, or that; for example, this familiar claim:

    “You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

    This may be true, or not, but there is no record of Abraham Lincoln ever saying or writing it.

    What about this guy, The Great Communicator? Is he on Mt. Rushmore yet?

    Ronald Reagan, arrived at the speaker’s rostrum to rouse the faithful to a renewed dedication to modern Republican ideals.

    He did so by invoking the name of Lincoln—by reminding the delegates of a set of principles Reagan declared had been “eloquently stated” by Lincoln generations earlier. The 40th president went on to quote what he described as the 16th president’s most enduring maxims.

    You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

    You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.

    You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.

    You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.

    As it turned out, it was too good to be true. The fact is, Lincoln had never uttered a word of it. The lines turned out to be the work of an obscure German-born minister from Brooklyn— by the name of William Boetcker—and they dated back to only 1916, 51 long years after Lincoln’s death.

    (my edits for brevity)

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/02/13/you-can-fool-some-of-the-people-all-the-time.html

    Finally, I will close with another of those familiar–at least to some of us–witty, sage aphorisms whose original author remains obscure, but which is commonly attributed to the likes of Twain, Josh Billings, Kin Hubbard, Satchel Page…the list goes on:

    It ain’t what you don’t know that hurts you,
    It’s what you know that just ain’t so.

    However, in my view, that still ain’t quite right.

    The truth is that both ignorance and false knowledge are dangerous.

    And you can quote me on that.

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  49. Sam Shama says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    The problem is that USA is totally intruthworthy, unreliable, lying entity that no agreement or even negotiations is possible. Yesterday there was article stating opinion by Russian General Staff in regard to ABM systems being placed in Russia and China vicinity. General Staff representative was straightforward in General Staff assessment as to what USA is doing namely preparing conditions for nuclear strike on Russia. The whole gradual development looks is very gradual which is called "tihii sap" or "tihim sapom" in Russian. Having extensive experience in my youth years in direct physical confrontations I would say nobody would do what USA is doing without intent to strike. Now, with new puppet in charge who tends to be the most inedequate and crazy of all POTUSes I remember starting with Nixon and neo cons and generals being in control I wonder where and how fast it is all going. I perfectly understand Russia's fear of war and attempts to avoid confrontation but from history I find it not very reassuring as Russia has never been able to avoid war with someone who wants it so badly. Ounce of prevention is better than treatment later. Hence I wonder if and when Russia and what it would take for Russia to do something about it.

    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

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    Yes. They think they can win it.
    , @Sergey Krieger
    There is obvious method to their madness. They are also very consistent. I still remember similar plans in the beginning of 80's with Tomahawks and Pershings , now it is back with int abm throwno the mix. Why would US go to such lenghts and efforts which looks like certain intent to strike? Just to bluff?
    , @Rurik

    do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?
     
    it isn't stupid and crazy so much as clinical psychopathology. Hubris on acid.

    when people say drunk on power, that's what is meant, drunk. Irrational with megalomaniacal arrogance.

    just watch this laughable asshole make a complete donkey of himself in front of the whole world

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRa5V9o_Xk

    if you listen closely, you can even hear laughter at that pathetic, pompous Jew on the world's stage- with the blood of untold thousands of children on his dripping, feculent hands, actually trying to lecture the world.

    these shitbags are so far beyond stupid and crazy that there really isn't words for their delusional grandiose dementia. Clinical is the word that comes to my mind. Laughable is the other.

    If Putin does decide he has to use nukes, the world would be better off glowing than under the thumb of such execrable rats as in that video.

    don't worry, the bacteria will survive, and maybe even a few humans in the Amazon or New Zealand. Better we start over than live in a world dominated by men like Bibi.
    , @Andrei Martyanov

    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?
     
    Nuclear? No quite--it depends. Conventional? Absolutely! Are they mad? Many are.Are they militarily incompetent? For neocons--it is their defining characteristic, together with most in US Congress.
    , @Corvinus
    "I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?"

    Of course not. The conspiracy theorists, however, feel otherwise. That is why nickels and Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.

    Nay, they are impotent armchair warriors.
    , @Kiza
    Firstly, they want to make the sheeple believe that the nuclear war is survivable. There has been a spate of TV series on US television presenting the global nuclear war as survivable (e.g. Jericho, The 100 etc). The main goal of such programs is to make the sheeple less afraid and thus complain less when the Ziocons quarrel with Russia and China. I have also read analysis recently which claim that nuclear winter effect is overblown in both its size and duration. Nobody can convince me that such "debate" is accidental.

    Secondly, as I wrote in my last comment, I think that they primary goal is to convince competition that they are totally crazy and that they and their sheeple are prepared for the global nuclear war. This may be even why Trump was allowed to become President, he truly looks out of his mind and scary, just consider his behavior re. North Korea.

    Thirdly, the danger of this is not that they would truly want the nuclear war then in the law of unintended consequences. In other words, those who play with matches near explosives have a higher chance of getting blown up. Such self-confidence that they can keep everything under control whilst subjugating Russia and China is mind-boggling, but quite typical for the people involved. Even if they were to win such game of nuclear brinkmanship ultimately, I doubt that we should undertake the risks so that they could fulfill their ambitions. In economic terms, our lives are an externality of their desire to win, something that is an acceptable cost to them. Simply, we are the human shields for their war ambitions.

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  50. @utu
    I agree with you. I imagine that Trump personality , character, beliefs, weaknesses, entanglements, all possible leverages were throughly analyzed and it was decided that Trump can be controlled and made do what even Hillary would not be willing to do. They, the controllers, have a big plan for Trump.

    He has a pathological need for validation. Tell him how strong and smart he’ll look by invading Iran for Israel, and he’ll do it.

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    So if I tell him he's strong and smart if he stops trying to get rid of Assad, he'll stop?
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  51. annamaria says:
    @Buck Turgidson
    Our $20T in debt phases these people not in the least. My head dizzies when I think of all the military bases we have constructed all over the world, and the cost of the vast number of soldiers, support staff, and consultants that we pay for in our quest to re-engineer the world in the vision of the military and neocon politicians. The results of this wannabe global empire seem to be mainly massive crippling debt, lots of dead and maimed soldiers, and a lot of locals who don't want us around. not much of an ROI guys. I say let these countries protect themselves. We can't fix every problem in the world

    I am from the Pat Buchanan non-interventionist school and would prefer that we shut down these operations and bring the boys home and save a few $$. When I share this opinion w military friends, they pat me on the head and say well isn't that a quaint idealist happy world vision you have there. You are a naive peacenik civilian that does not understand the world will implode upon itself unless the US bankrupts itself in order to maintain order. Call me unimpressed with the results and ROI.

    I would be willing to take a chance and see how that plays out vs. going down the same path and expecting any different results. As annamaria suggests, if these "warriors" want to fight, let them foot the bill for it and on a plane to their sand hole of choice and kill the "bad guys" that apparently need killing. Go do your thing guys, knock yourself out, but not with my $$. Unless it's protecting the border

    The US military bases – some 800-1000 of them — are not about “We can’t fix every problem in the world.” The bases have been set to protect the US dollar. That’s the first priority. Then there is a theft of natural resources in a host country (think oil, for example). As a nice “by-product,” the US military expansion improves the checking accounts of weapon manufacturers and other war profiteers. More recently, the US interventions were directed towards implementation of the Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Your military friends should know better about the goals of the US wars in the Middle East. Killing the millions human being of all ages (including hundreds of thousands of children) and improving the base-line for war profiteers does nothing good for the world.

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    Sure. Some are, some aren't. My military pals tell me we are in some places in the middle east to kill bad guys and protect the host society. Argue if you like. I got my fill of arguing w the Marxists, postmodernists, and deconstructionists in grad school who argue every syllable b/c they have x-ray vision that others don't. Peace
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  52. Z-man says:
    @WorkingClass

    The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.
     
    Dumb Dubya had Dick Cheney. Dumb Donald has Jared Kushner.

    You defended him Pat. So did I. Turns out Trump is an extremely dangerous piece of shit. Just like Hillary.

    No Trump has Jared and Ivanka and Pence triple teaming him with Neolib & Neocon crap. Don’t give up on him yet as there is a God and I hope he steers Donald the right way. One thing for him to do is to talk to Buchanan, Rand Paul and others on the paleo right as much as possible. Hear that Pat!

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  53. nickels says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    Yes. They think they can win it.

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  54. Rurik says:

    And their agenda for America?

    We are to recognize that our true enemy in the Mideast is not al-Qaida or ISIS, but Shiite Iran and Hezbollah, Assad’s Syria and his patron, Putin. And until Hezbollah is eviscerated, Assad is gone, and Iran is smashed the way we did Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen,

    the flowering of Middle East democracy that we all seek cannot truly begin.

    here’s what the “flowering” looks like:

    http://ift.tt/1wDsbb6

    the Fiend’s handiwork

    ..and we’re all invited to the party

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  55. @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    There is obvious method to their madness. They are also very consistent. I still remember similar plans in the beginning of 80′s with Tomahawks and Pershings , now it is back with int abm throwno the mix. Why would US go to such lenghts and efforts which looks like certain intent to strike? Just to bluff?

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    I am sure the activities of the early 80's bring back memories, but obviously, not of an actual conventional war, let alone a nuclear war, do they?

    So I should like to see the source of this report you cite [I don't read Russian but Russian friends can remedy that].

    More importantly, my take is that the U.S. and Russia are simply re-negotiating respective spheres of influence with China thrown in the mix. In the end, leaders are but ordinary mortals with a vanishing desire to contemplate the termination of their own lives, lineages, and that of the world they enjoy.

    , @Kiza
    I believe YES. The risk is that things run out of control, but this has never happened before, right? Like WW1, home for Christmas, war to end all wars, cake-walk etc etc.

    Just watch any group of children on a playground playing some rough game - how quickly things get out of control.

    Bluffing preparedness to initiate a nuclear war is so stupid that it is practically equal to waging one.

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  56. geokat62 says:
    @geokat62

    Who is behind the seeming conversion of Trump to hawk?

    The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.
     
    We all know who should be receiving top billing in this list... and it ain't the generals.

    We can’t really tell, but if the guy in the picture at the top of this post is politically astute, the placard he’s holding probably reads:

    Iraq, Libya, Syria:

    ENDLESS
    WAR
    FOR
    ISRAEL

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  57. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    it isn’t stupid and crazy so much as clinical psychopathology. Hubris on acid.

    when people say drunk on power, that’s what is meant, drunk. Irrational with megalomaniacal arrogance.

    just watch this laughable asshole make a complete donkey of himself in front of the whole world

    if you listen closely, you can even hear laughter at that pathetic, pompous Jew on the world’s stage- with the blood of untold thousands of children on his dripping, feculent hands, actually trying to lecture the world.

    these shitbags are so far beyond stupid and crazy that there really isn’t words for their delusional grandiose dementia. Clinical is the word that comes to my mind. Laughable is the other.

    If Putin does decide he has to use nukes, the world would be better off glowing than under the thumb of such execrable rats as in that video.

    don’t worry, the bacteria will survive, and maybe even a few humans in the Amazon or New Zealand. Better we start over than live in a world dominated by men like Bibi.

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    Rurik, I was asking about Trump. You consider him a psychopath?
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  58. @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    Nuclear? No quite–it depends. Conventional? Absolutely! Are they mad? Many are.Are they militarily incompetent? For neocons–it is their defining characteristic, together with most in US Congress.

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    Andrei,
    I am inclined to agree with you, given your research and background. So when Sergey writes of some Russian publication:

    Yesterday there was article stating opinion by Russian General Staff in regard to ABM systems being placed in Russia and China vicinity. General Staff representative was straightforward in General Staff assessment as to what USA is doing namely preparing conditions for nuclear strike on Russia. The whole gradual development looks is very gradual which is called “tihii sap” or “tihim sapom” in Russian.
     
    I find it important [ not to disbelieve Sergey] to read for myself the source of that report.

    thanks.

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  59. US military is a most powerful pussy-operation in history.

    It is helpless before feminists, homos, trannies, and Diversity.

    White military guys have to kiss the toes of feminists. They must bend over and take it up the ass from homos. They must now take orders from tranny officers. They must celebrate the Diversity of black soldiers and officers colonizing the wombs of white military-women into jungle fever.
    They must growl at enemies of Israel like so many dumb attack dogs.

    These white guys are cucks, pathetic and wussy.

    So, the only way they can act tough and manly is by picking on weaker nations, especially those hated by Jews.

    Sure, US talks about ‘human rights’, but it hasn’t done crap for the Palestinians who’ve been destroyed by US-backed Zionist imperialism.

    US military is run by white pussy-boys who bow down to Jews, homos, Negroes, trannies, and Diversity. But they command the most powerful military in the world because US is richest nation. A bunch of wussies who suck up to globalist leading the most powerful military.

    Something is wrong here.

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  60. Ram says:

    Trump is a fool, and a very lazy one at that. He has conceded that his previous life was less demanding. His solution is to delegate. The Zionists and the NeoCons have cornered foreign policy. The Generals, enamoured of their roles in the New America Century have gone back to their well honed ways. The whole of the Middle East will be at the end of it, completely broken. butchered like Fallujah
    Unless China Russia and India get together to stop this murderous rampage, there is no hope for the world. What is utterly distasteful is the fact that a large proportion of the Westerners are while mouthing phrases like human rights are vocally complicit in this man made disaster.

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  61. Sam Shama says:
    @Rurik

    do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?
     
    it isn't stupid and crazy so much as clinical psychopathology. Hubris on acid.

    when people say drunk on power, that's what is meant, drunk. Irrational with megalomaniacal arrogance.

    just watch this laughable asshole make a complete donkey of himself in front of the whole world

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRa5V9o_Xk

    if you listen closely, you can even hear laughter at that pathetic, pompous Jew on the world's stage- with the blood of untold thousands of children on his dripping, feculent hands, actually trying to lecture the world.

    these shitbags are so far beyond stupid and crazy that there really isn't words for their delusional grandiose dementia. Clinical is the word that comes to my mind. Laughable is the other.

    If Putin does decide he has to use nukes, the world would be better off glowing than under the thumb of such execrable rats as in that video.

    don't worry, the bacteria will survive, and maybe even a few humans in the Amazon or New Zealand. Better we start over than live in a world dominated by men like Bibi.

    Rurik, I was asking about Trump. You consider him a psychopath?

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    Trump. You consider him a psychopath?
     
    I'd say no, but he's under the thrall of psychopaths, which seems just as bad. Sort of like Wilson and FDR, elected to keep us out of wars, but then used by clever men to betray the nation with promises that their legacies will be one of great statesmen.

    The way they get at these men is though their vanity, and I suspect that Trump's vanity is his Achilles heal. Psychopath? no, but vain to a fault, yes.
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  62. Sam Shama says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?
     
    Nuclear? No quite--it depends. Conventional? Absolutely! Are they mad? Many are.Are they militarily incompetent? For neocons--it is their defining characteristic, together with most in US Congress.

    Andrei,
    I am inclined to agree with you, given your research and background. So when Sergey writes of some Russian publication:

    Yesterday there was article stating opinion by Russian General Staff in regard to ABM systems being placed in Russia and China vicinity. General Staff representative was straightforward in General Staff assessment as to what USA is doing namely preparing conditions for nuclear strike on Russia. The whole gradual development looks is very gradual which is called “tihii sap” or “tihim sapom” in Russian.

    I find it important [ not to disbelieve Sergey] to read for myself the source of that report.

    thanks.

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    I find it important [ not to disbelieve Sergey] to read for myself the source of that report.
     
    Sergey is absolutely correct describing yesterday's briefing of Russia's General Staff. Russian side will continue to expose any NATO (US) preparations for possible conflict. There were (and still are, I guess, I just don't follow them closely anymore) in US nuclear options known as decapitation strikes and things of that nature. Until US runs her printing press, military-industrial complex will continue to come up with the most exotic and.... useless technologies for "containment" of Russian (and Chinese) nuclear weapons. US doctrine allows the first use of nuclear weapons. Considering dire dangers US faced throughout her history (I am being facetious, of course) one is only forced by the facts to the conclusion that US nuclear posture is offensive.
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  63. Sam Shama says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    There is obvious method to their madness. They are also very consistent. I still remember similar plans in the beginning of 80's with Tomahawks and Pershings , now it is back with int abm throwno the mix. Why would US go to such lenghts and efforts which looks like certain intent to strike? Just to bluff?

    I am sure the activities of the early 80′s bring back memories, but obviously, not of an actual conventional war, let alone a nuclear war, do they?

    So I should like to see the source of this report you cite [I don't read Russian but Russian friends can remedy that].

    More importantly, my take is that the U.S. and Russia are simply re-negotiating respective spheres of influence with China thrown in the mix. In the end, leaders are but ordinary mortals with a vanishing desire to contemplate the termination of their own lives, lineages, and that of the world they enjoy.

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    No problem. It is here.
    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/04/26/10645937.shtml#page1

    I hope you are right but I think there is no need for one of negotiators to constantly step on another one big toe and breath into his face. Some breathing space would help a lot. Or private space as it is in Northern America. Ah, safe space ;)
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  64. JohnDough says:

    If people haven’t noticed the US has been taken over for a long time by Ziocons. With Trump and the Kushner’s they are more powerful than ever. The wars in the Middle East have very much to do with uber paranoid Israel’s security. Wall Street and elite profits are set up to feed the Zionist state and US shadow state and our military is controlled by them as well. What will be the solution to this mess?

    Israel is now actually bombing Syria and abandoning their manipulative Talmudic “ambiguity” con and were behind pushing for Assad’s removal from the very beginning in addition to pushing for regime change in Israel’s other neighbors. There is a cultural Old Testament sense of revenge and entitlement with far too many of these powerful Jews. In my own life I’ve encountered it. I’ve been wrongly attacked and when I defended myself they attacked me in a manner way out of context to the situation. The difference is that I know where they are coming from and forewarned is forearmed.

    This cannot go on forever and once this situation changes there’s going to be hell for certain people to pay. It’s been happening for thousands of years and this time won’t be any different than the hundreds of historical examples of minority control of majorities over reach. The pitchforks are being sharpened even as I write. The world is tired of being abused by Zionism.

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  65. @annamaria
    The US military bases - some 800-1000 of them -- are not about "We can’t fix every problem in the world." The bases have been set to protect the US dollar. That's the first priority. Then there is a theft of natural resources in a host country (think oil, for example). As a nice "by-product," the US military expansion improves the checking accounts of weapon manufacturers and other war profiteers. More recently, the US interventions were directed towards implementation of the Oded Yinon plan for Eretz Israel. Your military friends should know better about the goals of the US wars in the Middle East. Killing the millions human being of all ages (including hundreds of thousands of children) and improving the base-line for war profiteers does nothing good for the world.

    Sure. Some are, some aren’t. My military pals tell me we are in some places in the middle east to kill bad guys and protect the host society. Argue if you like. I got my fill of arguing w the Marxists, postmodernists, and deconstructionists in grad school who argue every syllable b/c they have x-ray vision that others don’t. Peace

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  66. annamaria says:

    Meanwhile, change we can believe in: https://www.rt.com/usa/386513-obama-scoops-up-800k-appearances/
    “Obama secures $800,000 for two speaking engagements.”
    The scoundrel is being reimbursed for his travails in service to the “deciders.”

    An excerpt from the same article:
    “There has been criticism about Obama cashing in on his presidency but the Intercept shed light on the controversial Wall Street investor that is due to host Obama in September.
    Cantor Fitzgerald was the major Wall Street brokerage house that lost 658 of its 960 employees when the World Trade Center was destroyed in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The company was successful in reaching a settlement in 2013 for $135 million after suing American Airlines for damages. Cantor had originally demanded more than $1 billion in damages claiming American Airlines was negligent in allowing five terrorists to board the plane in Boston that crashed into the World Trade Center’s north tower, where Cantor had its offices.
    The Intercept reported Cantor’s chairman Howard Lutnick and his Cantor partners kept some of the money for the firm and distributed the rest to themselves in proportion to their ownership stake, with Lutnick receiving $25 million. … None of the money went to any of the surviving families. Over half of the 658 Cantor employees killed had families, three dozen wives were pregnant, and 20 families lost two people in the attack. Two of the widows told the Intercept they were never informed of the settlement, nor that the company had filed a lawsuit in the first place.” https://theintercept.com/2017/04/27/wall-street-firm-paying-obama-400000-faced-internal-controversy-after-pocketing-huge-911-settlement/
    Birds of a feather flock together…

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    Well, it certainly was easily managed by the ten thousand jack booted thugs who showed up after the Boston Marathon false flag bombing.
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  67. Rurik says:
    @Sam Shama
    Rurik, I was asking about Trump. You consider him a psychopath?

    Trump. You consider him a psychopath?

    I’d say no, but he’s under the thrall of psychopaths, which seems just as bad. Sort of like Wilson and FDR, elected to keep us out of wars, but then used by clever men to betray the nation with promises that their legacies will be one of great statesmen.

    The way they get at these men is though their vanity, and I suspect that Trump’s vanity is his Achilles heal. Psychopath? no, but vain to a fault, yes.

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  68. Ace says:
    @jacques sheete

    Trump is a fool.
     
    Anyone over the age of 12 who would want the job is a fool. Anyone who casts ballots for such crackpot biped cloacas is a fool as well.

    We had such wonderful choices.

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    haha, it was either excrement or feces.

    I now openly laugh at people talking about democracy and votes.

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  69. Ace says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Mr Buchanan, I like you, I've always liked you. You're one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn't a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren't like you. They'll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.


    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn't win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.


    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren't duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.


    I'm just sad that they duped you too.


    I hope you're well, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

    You say “Islamophobia” like it’s a bad thing.

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    I say it because it is, it's a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can't think of one rational critique of Islam that isn't illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.


    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it's likely you're just a liberal.
    , @englishmike
    You say “Islamophobia” like it’s a bad thing.

    You both say "Islamophobia" like it's a thing.

    Compare Bobzilla...

    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

    I note that Rurik also uses "Islamophobic" as if it means something, Does he also believe that "anti-semitism" is a thing?
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  70. the one who holds power in trumps presidency is a jew, his son in law.

    that should answer all the questions by pat.

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  71. Ace says:
    @Johann
    Don't forget those millions of Yankee Doodle dandies with their cretinous "USA USA USA" chants who think war is a football game. Maybe a nuked NYC Or DC willmwakevthem up.

    A chant of “USA” is not an indication of enthusiasm for war. No part of the Trump campaign indicated that war with Russia was in the card.

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  72. @Ace
    We had such wonderful choices.

    haha, it was either excrement or feces.

    I now openly laugh at people talking about democracy and votes.

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  73. @Sam Shama
    Andrei,
    I am inclined to agree with you, given your research and background. So when Sergey writes of some Russian publication:

    Yesterday there was article stating opinion by Russian General Staff in regard to ABM systems being placed in Russia and China vicinity. General Staff representative was straightforward in General Staff assessment as to what USA is doing namely preparing conditions for nuclear strike on Russia. The whole gradual development looks is very gradual which is called “tihii sap” or “tihim sapom” in Russian.
     
    I find it important [ not to disbelieve Sergey] to read for myself the source of that report.

    thanks.

    I find it important [ not to disbelieve Sergey] to read for myself the source of that report.

    Sergey is absolutely correct describing yesterday’s briefing of Russia’s General Staff. Russian side will continue to expose any NATO (US) preparations for possible conflict. There were (and still are, I guess, I just don’t follow them closely anymore) in US nuclear options known as decapitation strikes and things of that nature. Until US runs her printing press, military-industrial complex will continue to come up with the most exotic and…. useless technologies for “containment” of Russian (and Chinese) nuclear weapons. US doctrine allows the first use of nuclear weapons. Considering dire dangers US faced throughout her history (I am being facetious, of course) one is only forced by the facts to the conclusion that US nuclear posture is offensive.

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  74. Ace says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    THAAD against North Korea is the same as the two ABMD sites against Iran in Poland and Romania. THAAD in South Korea complements and rounds up the encirclement of the Eurasian continent. The message from the Anglo-Zionist Empire is: you can build your New Silk Road, but we can nuke you and your road any time we like and you can’t do anything about it.

    All the rest is the usual Western propaganda bull.
     
    So is THAAD since nobody can block polar trajectories, to start with. This is not to speak of such things as RS-28 Sarmat, not to mention that actual effectiveness of THAAD against intercontinental ballistic targets is about 10%--this is abysmal. The real danger, as I said many times, is not THAAD per se--there are many ways to mitigate or simply destroy its batteries--it is US political class living completely in La-La-Land of US weapons' alleged effectiveness, which in reality is the staff of CGI graphics, augmented trials, colorful pamphlets and Power Point Presentation. THAAD is not a real danger, US powers that be are, since they base a lot of their decisions on a complete baloney. That is what "peers" are afraid of--the military and political establishment which lost every single war it fought after WW II and still think itself to be "the greatest in the world".

    You confuse military incapability with political interference. Rules of engagement and diplomats can be guaranteed to reverse all American battlefield gains.

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    You confuse military incapability with political interference. Rules of engagement and diplomats can be guaranteed to reverse all American battlefield gains.
     
    I confuse nothing. American soldier (and a seaman) is a good soldier, under some circumstances--a heroic one, but these constant referrals to bad ROE, traitorous diplomats, corrupt politicians, bad weather or diarrhea epidemic are becoming really redundant. Same stuff as "General Winter" meme. This is not my personal point of view only, there are many American military veterans out there who share this POV. Wars are fought by nations (states), they are won by them, they are lost by them. If politicians, diplomats etc. do not understand strategic and operational realities--throw them out, but in US, where overwhelming majority of population "knows" war only through CNN and Hollywood, it is virtually impossible.
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  75. Ace says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    He has a pathological need for validation. Tell him how strong and smart he'll look by invading Iran for Israel, and he'll do it.

    So if I tell him he’s strong and smart if he stops trying to get rid of Assad, he’ll stop?

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    Depends on whether you can validate him more than the neocon cabal.


    For the record, Bashar Al Assad and his father Hafez Al Assad along with the SAA and the Baathist state were and are war criminals, and I think that in the long term Assad needs to go. However I do not support western intervention nor do I support the left wing Kurds carving up Syria and threatening Turkey.
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  76. @Ace
    You say "Islamophobia" like it's a bad thing.

    I say it because it is, it’s a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can’t think of one rational critique of Islam that isn’t illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.

    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it’s likely you’re just a liberal.

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    I can: http://dhspriory.org/thomas/Rationes.htm .
    , @Rurik
    Hello white Muslim,

    prostitutes like Melania Trump
     
    can you prove that?

    Islamophobia...

    ... it’s a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.
     
    much of it to be sure, like blaming Muslim patsies for 9/11 and other false flag attacks, like the Boston "bombing', etc...

    but there are some salient and credible reasons for some people to be concerned about Islam, and that is wherever Muslims congregate in Western lands, but then start to act less and less like guests, and more and more like conquering armies.

    Places like Kosovo for instance, where Islamic hegemony has ripped the territory apart and caused massive suffering and death, going back all the way to the Ottoman imperial aggressions and occupation.

    If Muslims would simply stay in their own lands, and trade with the West and respect Western borders and culture, then I suspect there'd be no Islamophobia, were it not for Israel's serial atrocities and imperial aggressions that create hatred for the Western powers that act like sniveling dogs to Zion. (that was a long sentence)

    in some ways I respect the Muslims far more than I do the castrati and cucks of the West, who let boy rapists off with an apology, while Iran dangles them from cranes.

    The main problem I see today between the civilizations is what's happening today in the Middle East, as Israel ravages the Muslims under their iron boot, with the eager complicity of certain Muslim regimes, like the Saudis and the Turks.

    The Muslims seem so keen to kill their brother Muslims, for tribal or religions reasons, that they're willing to side with the Zionists and make a deal with the devil itself in order to put their fellow Muslims in their place.
    , @Californian
    Melania Trump is not a prostitute, she was a model.
    Please..........!
    , @Talha
    Dang! Brother man! Brought up Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad (aka Tim Winter). I like the cut of your jib bro!

    Hey, were you there when he toured over in the Netherlands about the necessity of traditional Sufism as an integral part of the Islamic framework?

    By the way, have you seen these two talks? Two of my favorites:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDbqABvEN0
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn99uTfEzq8

    Also, you sound like you're around Philly - no? Maybe Boston? Your comments bring me back to the times I used to visit the masjids in South Central LA. Absolutely loved the brothers there.

    Wa Salaam.

    Ps. Go easy on Rurik (and some of the others), he's actually a pretty nice guy to converse with even if you end up disagreeing with him - but willing to listen if you approach with mutual respect. I've had a rough start with a few of these guys but I've come to consider them good online acquaintances (and some even friends) - some of course are incorrigible and have earned a coveted place on my "Don't waste my time" list.
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  77. @Ace
    So if I tell him he's strong and smart if he stops trying to get rid of Assad, he'll stop?

    Depends on whether you can validate him more than the neocon cabal.

    For the record, Bashar Al Assad and his father Hafez Al Assad along with the SAA and the Baathist state were and are war criminals, and I think that in the long term Assad needs to go. However I do not support western intervention nor do I support the left wing Kurds carving up Syria and threatening Turkey.

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    "For the record, Bashar Al Assad and his father Hafez Al Assad along with the SAA and the Baathist state were and are war criminals"

    BS! You correctly point out all the propaganda against Muslims in the West and then totally fail to apply the same skepticism to the mind-boggling amount of atrocity/negative propaganda leveled against Assad, the Syrian Army and the Syrian state.
    Shame on you for such stupidity.
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  78. S2 says:
    @The Alarmist
    The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.

    “The more interesting story would be what they did to flip Trump.”

    I think it was the Arlington real estate deal.

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  79. I am crushingly disappointed with Trump!

    His entourage is somewhere between mentally retarded and psychotic.

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  80. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I say it because it is, it's a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can't think of one rational critique of Islam that isn't illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.


    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it's likely you're just a liberal.
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  81. KenH says:

    Trump certainly seems smitten by any aged military officer who talks a good game and is sporting bling on his man teat. In the case of H.R. McMaster, who wouldn’t be excited to be in the presence of a steely eyed warrior and chrome domed badass with a cool name like H.R.? Sign me up!!

    Trump seems like he’s a sucker for good sales pitches and the generals really seem to be laying it on thick. Or Ivanka’s tears.

    At least Reagan was a student of world history and communism so couldn’t be so easily bamboozled and led around by the ear by the likes of the CIA or his cabinet members. The only books Trump seems to have read are his own.

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    At least Reagan was a student of world history and communism so couldn’t be so easily bamboozled and led around by the ear by the likes of the CIA or his cabinet members. The only books Trump seems to have read are his own.
     
    Don't underestimate Trump, he went to an Ivy League school so he must've read some history.
    Yeah General Chrome Dome has to have his wings clipped but he should stay on to placate the Republitards. Maybe this passive aggressive stuff is just Trump being overwhelmed by the job. He should settle down and be his old campaingn self once Melania and Baron move in this summer. You gotta have hope!
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  82. Corvinus says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Mr Buchanan, I like you, I've always liked you. You're one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn't a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren't like you. They'll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.


    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn't win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.


    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren't duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.


    I'm just sad that they duped you too.


    I hope you're well, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

    “Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren’t like you. They’ll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.”

    False News Story.

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  83. Corvinus says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    “I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?”

    Of course not. The conspiracy theorists, however, feel otherwise. That is why nickels and Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.

    Nay, they are impotent armchair warriors.

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    Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.
     
    take matters into our own hands?

    how do you propose we do that Corvinus?

    and why would we only want to save the white Americans? I'd like to save all Americans from death and suffering if I could. Who wouldn't?

    the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There's simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along. They're just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can't let go. Russia needs to understand that the Red Army was not seen as liberators in Poland or Ukraine or anywhere else, and demanding that these people honor the Red Army rapists is untenable, and leads to hatred and hostility. If Russia would just let their hatred of Germany go, and realize that all the Nazis that invaded their lands are all dead, and that the German people also suffered terribly in that war, and that Russia was no saint when she went into Poland and elsewhere, and stop acting like victims and grow up and start getting along with their neighbors to the West, then this simple change of tenor would defuse Eastern Europe's willingness to have NATO troops and tanks and missiles on their soil, and it would emasculate the war pigs, and leave them holding their dicks in their hands, instead of arms for the Kagan quislings in Kyiv.

    >>sigh<<

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  84. Rurik says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I say it because it is, it's a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can't think of one rational critique of Islam that isn't illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.


    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it's likely you're just a liberal.

    Hello white Muslim,

    prostitutes like Melania Trump

    can you prove that?

    Islamophobia…

    … it’s a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    much of it to be sure, like blaming Muslim patsies for 9/11 and other false flag attacks, like the Boston “bombing’, etc…

    but there are some salient and credible reasons for some people to be concerned about Islam, and that is wherever Muslims congregate in Western lands, but then start to act less and less like guests, and more and more like conquering armies.

    Places like Kosovo for instance, where Islamic hegemony has ripped the territory apart and caused massive suffering and death, going back all the way to the Ottoman imperial aggressions and occupation.

    If Muslims would simply stay in their own lands, and trade with the West and respect Western borders and culture, then I suspect there’d be no Islamophobia, were it not for Israel’s serial atrocities and imperial aggressions that create hatred for the Western powers that act like sniveling dogs to Zion. (that was a long sentence)

    in some ways I respect the Muslims far more than I do the castrati and cucks of the West, who let boy rapists off with an apology, while Iran dangles them from cranes.

    The main problem I see today between the civilizations is what’s happening today in the Middle East, as Israel ravages the Muslims under their iron boot, with the eager complicity of certain Muslim regimes, like the Saudis and the Turks.

    The Muslims seem so keen to kill their brother Muslims, for tribal or religions reasons, that they’re willing to side with the Zionists and make a deal with the devil itself in order to put their fellow Muslims in their place.

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    I don't have to prove it. Look at her.



    The rest is just irrational whining.


    We aren't guests in the west, my family has been Dutch since Dutch people split off from other Germanic tribes. I'm in the states right now, most of my brothers at the mosque are people who were brought to the new world in chains. Where we live is our home.



    As for Kosovo, a Muslim presence has existed there since the 12th century, it's been majority Albanian since the mid 18th century. If Muslims don't belong in Kosovo, whites don't belong in America.



    To tackle terrorism, I would suggest you stop helping terrorists perpetuate a false narrative that Islam is violent and advocate against western imperialism. Every single scholar of note will tell you Da'esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews) if you want to say you know better than scholars, where did you study fiqh and how old were you when you became a Hafiz?


    Stop whining. Muslims exist in the west, east, north and south. Millions are native westerners who converted. Get used to us, better yet, leave behind the dead end polytheism and join us.
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  85. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus
    "I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?"

    Of course not. The conspiracy theorists, however, feel otherwise. That is why nickels and Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.

    Nay, they are impotent armchair warriors.

    Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.

    take matters into our own hands?

    how do you propose we do that Corvinus?

    and why would we only want to save the white Americans? I’d like to save all Americans from death and suffering if I could. Who wouldn’t?

    the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There’s simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along. They’re just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can’t let go. Russia needs to understand that the Red Army was not seen as liberators in Poland or Ukraine or anywhere else, and demanding that these people honor the Red Army rapists is untenable, and leads to hatred and hostility. If Russia would just let their hatred of Germany go, and realize that all the Nazis that invaded their lands are all dead, and that the German people also suffered terribly in that war, and that Russia was no saint when she went into Poland and elsewhere, and stop acting like victims and grow up and start getting along with their neighbors to the West, then this simple change of tenor would defuse Eastern Europe’s willingness to have NATO troops and tanks and missiles on their soil, and it would emasculate the war pigs, and leave them holding their dicks in their hands, instead of arms for the Kagan quislings in Kyiv.

    >>sigh<<

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    "take matters into our own hands? how do you propose we do that Corvinus?"

    Are you not a white man with a high IQ? Then you can figure it out rather than complain on a daily basis how the elites are destroying our nation. You have a duty as a patriot to act now, not later.

    "the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There’s simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along."

    "They’re just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can’t let go."

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be "taken care of". Interesting, to say the least. Why can't they let it go?
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  86. Bobzilla says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Mr Buchanan, I like you, I've always liked you. You're one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn't a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren't like you. They'll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.


    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn't win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.


    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren't duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.


    I'm just sad that they duped you too.


    I hope you're well, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

    You’re one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn’t a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist

    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

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    "There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites."

    Corrected for accuracy --> Race is a biological and social construct used in part by race baiters such as Steve Sailer and Al Sharpton to suit their narratives.
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  87. I use racism to mean hating or thinking lesser of those who are another race.

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    I use racism to mean hating or thinking lesser of those who are another race.
     
    Again, there is no such thing as racism. I can have many entirely valid reasons for so called hating people of another race. Hate is an ambiguous / amorphous construct. As you are using it, hate is simply a propaganda term used to wage war against the White race and Western Civilization.
    , @Alden
    As you do.
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  88. @Rurik
    Hello white Muslim,

    prostitutes like Melania Trump
     
    can you prove that?

    Islamophobia...

    ... it’s a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.
     
    much of it to be sure, like blaming Muslim patsies for 9/11 and other false flag attacks, like the Boston "bombing', etc...

    but there are some salient and credible reasons for some people to be concerned about Islam, and that is wherever Muslims congregate in Western lands, but then start to act less and less like guests, and more and more like conquering armies.

    Places like Kosovo for instance, where Islamic hegemony has ripped the territory apart and caused massive suffering and death, going back all the way to the Ottoman imperial aggressions and occupation.

    If Muslims would simply stay in their own lands, and trade with the West and respect Western borders and culture, then I suspect there'd be no Islamophobia, were it not for Israel's serial atrocities and imperial aggressions that create hatred for the Western powers that act like sniveling dogs to Zion. (that was a long sentence)

    in some ways I respect the Muslims far more than I do the castrati and cucks of the West, who let boy rapists off with an apology, while Iran dangles them from cranes.

    The main problem I see today between the civilizations is what's happening today in the Middle East, as Israel ravages the Muslims under their iron boot, with the eager complicity of certain Muslim regimes, like the Saudis and the Turks.

    The Muslims seem so keen to kill their brother Muslims, for tribal or religions reasons, that they're willing to side with the Zionists and make a deal with the devil itself in order to put their fellow Muslims in their place.

    I don’t have to prove it. Look at her.

    The rest is just irrational whining.

    We aren’t guests in the west, my family has been Dutch since Dutch people split off from other Germanic tribes. I’m in the states right now, most of my brothers at the mosque are people who were brought to the new world in chains. Where we live is our home.

    As for Kosovo, a Muslim presence has existed there since the 12th century, it’s been majority Albanian since the mid 18th century. If Muslims don’t belong in Kosovo, whites don’t belong in America.

    To tackle terrorism, I would suggest you stop helping terrorists perpetuate a false narrative that Islam is violent and advocate against western imperialism. Every single scholar of note will tell you Da’esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews) if you want to say you know better than scholars, where did you study fiqh and how old were you when you became a Hafiz?

    Stop whining. Muslims exist in the west, east, north and south. Millions are native westerners who converted. Get used to us, better yet, leave behind the dead end polytheism and join us.

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    I'm an atheist, not a polytheist. If your brothers at the mosque were brought here in chains they are black Muslims, not immigrants or White converts.

    And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It's a unique sext for blacks only. If you're Dutch you're White and they would never accept you.

    So go home. Posts like yours are a major reason Americans don't like immigrants. Come here, get a student visa or green card, get a job, pay far less taxes than you would at home and then tell us how terrible we are.
    , @Escher

    Every single scholar of note will tell you Da’esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews)
     
    So those of us who are not 'people of the book' have no rights and can be abused at will, according to your great prophet.
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  89. Z-man says:
    @KenH
    Trump certainly seems smitten by any aged military officer who talks a good game and is sporting bling on his man teat. In the case of H.R. McMaster, who wouldn't be excited to be in the presence of a steely eyed warrior and chrome domed badass with a cool name like H.R.? Sign me up!!

    Trump seems like he's a sucker for good sales pitches and the generals really seem to be laying it on thick. Or Ivanka's tears.

    At least Reagan was a student of world history and communism so couldn't be so easily bamboozled and led around by the ear by the likes of the CIA or his cabinet members. The only books Trump seems to have read are his own.

    At least Reagan was a student of world history and communism so couldn’t be so easily bamboozled and led around by the ear by the likes of the CIA or his cabinet members. The only books Trump seems to have read are his own.

    Don’t underestimate Trump, he went to an Ivy League school so he must’ve read some history.
    Yeah General Chrome Dome has to have his wings clipped but he should stay on to placate the Republitards. Maybe this passive aggressive stuff is just Trump being overwhelmed by the job. He should settle down and be his old campaingn self once Melania and Baron move in this summer. You gotta have hope!

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    Don’t underestimate Trump, he went to an Ivy League school so he must’ve read some history.
     
    Sure, some history, but we don't know how much he learned or retained. I think most universities only mandated one or two courses.

    He seems to have taken leave of his realism and common sense since taking office. It's almost like he's working on yet another book titled "Everything I know about Iran, Syria and the Middle East I learned from Jared and Bibi".
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  90. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Guru truth-speaker Ramzpaul covers all the bases

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZUE8LrAiuw&feature=youtu.be

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  91. @Ace
    You confuse military incapability with political interference. Rules of engagement and diplomats can be guaranteed to reverse all American battlefield gains.

    You confuse military incapability with political interference. Rules of engagement and diplomats can be guaranteed to reverse all American battlefield gains.

    I confuse nothing. American soldier (and a seaman) is a good soldier, under some circumstances–a heroic one, but these constant referrals to bad ROE, traitorous diplomats, corrupt politicians, bad weather or diarrhea epidemic are becoming really redundant. Same stuff as “General Winter” meme. This is not my personal point of view only, there are many American military veterans out there who share this POV. Wars are fought by nations (states), they are won by them, they are lost by them. If politicians, diplomats etc. do not understand strategic and operational realities–throw them out, but in US, where overwhelming majority of population “knows” war only through CNN and Hollywood, it is virtually impossible.

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  92. Close the damn borders.
    if you are Muslim you shouldn’t want these people who are not vetted, unknown, no IDs, some sick coming in either.

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  93. @Buck Turgidson
    Our $20T in debt phases these people not in the least. My head dizzies when I think of all the military bases we have constructed all over the world, and the cost of the vast number of soldiers, support staff, and consultants that we pay for in our quest to re-engineer the world in the vision of the military and neocon politicians. The results of this wannabe global empire seem to be mainly massive crippling debt, lots of dead and maimed soldiers, and a lot of locals who don't want us around. not much of an ROI guys. I say let these countries protect themselves. We can't fix every problem in the world

    I am from the Pat Buchanan non-interventionist school and would prefer that we shut down these operations and bring the boys home and save a few $$. When I share this opinion w military friends, they pat me on the head and say well isn't that a quaint idealist happy world vision you have there. You are a naive peacenik civilian that does not understand the world will implode upon itself unless the US bankrupts itself in order to maintain order. Call me unimpressed with the results and ROI.

    I would be willing to take a chance and see how that plays out vs. going down the same path and expecting any different results. As annamaria suggests, if these "warriors" want to fight, let them foot the bill for it and on a plane to their sand hole of choice and kill the "bad guys" that apparently need killing. Go do your thing guys, knock yourself out, but not with my $$. Unless it's protecting the border

    Acouple of quotes from one of the most loyal and prominent American historians of her time.:

    Wherever an army is established, it introduces a revolution in manners, corrupts the morals, propagates every species of vice, and degrades the human character.”

    Mercy Otis Warren, Revolution-era historian,
    History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution vol. 1, Ch3, 1805

    http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=1872

    This is usually the case with all armies or detachments from them, in all countries, after they have stood their ground long enough, to feel their strength sufficient to indulge that military tyranny which grows by habit, and makes a standing army a fit instrument for the support of the most cruel despotism and, encouraged by the example of America, they strenuously supported their rights, and made use of the same arguments against a standing army in time of peace, which had been urged in the assemblies and congresses of the colonies.

    Mercy Otis Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution vol. 2> C H A P T E R X X V I

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  94. Rurik says:

    I don’t have to prove it. Look at her.

    she looks like any typical Western woman to me. Are all women who wear makeup and try to look attractive whores?

    We aren’t guests in the west, my family has been Dutch

    I wasn’t talking about your ethnicity, I was talking about your religion. Islam is not endemic to the West. In many ways it is contrary to Western values of freedom of thought and freedom of expression. I fully respect the people of Islam to live unmolested in their own countries in anyway they see fit, and were I to visit, I can promise you that’d I respect the local culture and the ways of the people. I’d never dream of trying to impose or assume that the locals amend their ways to accommodate me. That would be rude and inconsiderate, and hardly the kind of ambassador for Western values that I’d like to think I’d at least try to make an effort at.
    Kosovo was a Christian land from antiquity until the imperial Ottomans conquered it with the sword and imposed themselves upon the people there. Eventually thought the ravages of communism and other atrocities that those poor people were forced to endure, the Muslims came to be demographically the majority, and then, used violence and terrorism, (and drug trafficking) to violently force their ways upon the Serbian residents there.

    I’m not whining, I’m just pointing out the truth.

    To tackle terrorism, I would suggest you stop helping terrorists perpetuate a false narrative that Islam is violent and advocate against western imperialism.

    I always advocate against Western imperialism. What kind of jerk would I be if I asked Muslims to respect the ways and culture and borders of the West, if I didn’t want to return the favor in kind? The West has no business subverting Muslim lands and destroying Muslim countries that caused us no harm and didn’t threaten us in any way whatsoever.

    We both share a common enemy, and that enemy is Zionism. It is Zionism that subverts our governments in the West, and it is Zionism that uses our governments and militaries (and CIA and a thousand other methods of treachery) to slaughter untold numbers of Muslims and cause horrors unimaginable in that part of the world. I wish they’d stop, but it makes it harder to rein in the fiends when so many Muslims are glad to see a war in Syria, because they just don’t like the Assad regime. So they play nice with Bibi and the ZUSA in order to see their fellow Muslims destroyed. I wish they didn’t do that. I wish Saudi Arabia and Iran would get along, and demand that Israel get out of Palestine and return to its 1949 borders, and learn to play nice. But they don’t because there are so many Muslim regimes and leaders like Mubarak and others that take the shekels and oppress their own people. And Muslims who are other Muslim’s greatest enemies because of obscure religious intolerances.

    Once the Muslims got the Zio-West out of their lands, then they could get on to the business of slaughtering each other if they feel they must. But in the mean time, I wish they’d coalesce and create a bulwark against the ravages of Zion.

    (I’m rambling by now if you haven’t noticed)

    I’m a million miles away from being any type of scholar, that’s for certain. But what I am is sincere and humble enough to know that I do have a lot to learn and that’s the reason I’m here.

    Salam Alaikum

    btw, I have nothing against the NOI, and America is certainly their home. But they are home-grown and have a unique history all their own. Unlike the Muslim in Dearborn for instance, who are guests to my mind, and should not be demanding calls to prayer and other provocations.

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  95. @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I say it because it is, it's a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can't think of one rational critique of Islam that isn't illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.


    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it's likely you're just a liberal.

    Melania Trump is not a prostitute, she was a model.
    Please……….!

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  96. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Trump is a fool. That's all there is to say. He will accomplish nothing as president and be wiped out in a huge Democratic landslide in 2020. Fool.

    Looks like Linh Dinh was right about Trump.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/the-trump-ploy/

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  97. @Sam Shama
    I am sure the activities of the early 80's bring back memories, but obviously, not of an actual conventional war, let alone a nuclear war, do they?

    So I should like to see the source of this report you cite [I don't read Russian but Russian friends can remedy that].

    More importantly, my take is that the U.S. and Russia are simply re-negotiating respective spheres of influence with China thrown in the mix. In the end, leaders are but ordinary mortals with a vanishing desire to contemplate the termination of their own lives, lineages, and that of the world they enjoy.

    No problem. It is here.

    https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2017/04/26/10645937.shtml#page1

    I hope you are right but I think there is no need for one of negotiators to constantly step on another one big toe and breath into his face. Some breathing space would help a lot. Or private space as it is in Northern America. Ah, safe space ;)

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  98. @Z-man
    I take exception to Boston being called a smog filled traffic nightmare. I've visited Boston and I find it quaint and charming. Small and easily manageable compared to NYC. They are the home of the Boston Red Sox and by pedigree the New England Patriots. The Patriots? I hate the NE Patriots, I hate Bill Belichick, I really hate Robert Kraft...never mind, Nuke Boston!! (Grin)
    The rest of your post is good.

    Well, it certainly was easily managed by the ten thousand jack booted thugs who showed up after the Boston Marathon false flag bombing.

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  99. Bobzilla says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I use racism to mean hating or thinking lesser of those who are another race.

    I use racism to mean hating or thinking lesser of those who are another race.

    Again, there is no such thing as racism. I can have many entirely valid reasons for so called hating people of another race. Hate is an ambiguous / amorphous construct. As you are using it, hate is simply a propaganda term used to wage war against the White race and Western Civilization.

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  100. Kiza says:
    @Sam Shama
    Sergei and Kiza,
    I wish to ask you both in earnest, do you truly believe Trump, his advisors, his military brass, Congress and even the neocons are stupid and crazy enough to seek nuclear war with Russia knowing full well the inevitable end of life as we know on Earth?

    Firstly, they want to make the sheeple believe that the nuclear war is survivable. There has been a spate of TV series on US television presenting the global nuclear war as survivable (e.g. Jericho, The 100 etc). The main goal of such programs is to make the sheeple less afraid and thus complain less when the Ziocons quarrel with Russia and China. I have also read analysis recently which claim that nuclear winter effect is overblown in both its size and duration. Nobody can convince me that such “debate” is accidental.

    Secondly, as I wrote in my last comment, I think that they primary goal is to convince competition that they are totally crazy and that they and their sheeple are prepared for the global nuclear war. This may be even why Trump was allowed to become President, he truly looks out of his mind and scary, just consider his behavior re. North Korea.

    Thirdly, the danger of this is not that they would truly want the nuclear war then in the law of unintended consequences. In other words, those who play with matches near explosives have a higher chance of getting blown up. Such self-confidence that they can keep everything under control whilst subjugating Russia and China is mind-boggling, but quite typical for the people involved. Even if they were to win such game of nuclear brinkmanship ultimately, I doubt that we should undertake the risks so that they could fulfill their ambitions. In economic terms, our lives are an externality of their desire to win, something that is an acceptable cost to them. Simply, we are the human shields for their war ambitions.

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  101. Kiza says:
    @Sergey Krieger
    There is obvious method to their madness. They are also very consistent. I still remember similar plans in the beginning of 80's with Tomahawks and Pershings , now it is back with int abm throwno the mix. Why would US go to such lenghts and efforts which looks like certain intent to strike? Just to bluff?

    I believe YES. The risk is that things run out of control, but this has never happened before, right? Like WW1, home for Christmas, war to end all wars, cake-walk etc etc.

    Just watch any group of children on a playground playing some rough game – how quickly things get out of control.

    Bluffing preparedness to initiate a nuclear war is so stupid that it is practically equal to waging one.

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  102. Alden says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I use racism to mean hating or thinking lesser of those who are another race.

    As you do.

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  103. Alden says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I don't have to prove it. Look at her.



    The rest is just irrational whining.


    We aren't guests in the west, my family has been Dutch since Dutch people split off from other Germanic tribes. I'm in the states right now, most of my brothers at the mosque are people who were brought to the new world in chains. Where we live is our home.



    As for Kosovo, a Muslim presence has existed there since the 12th century, it's been majority Albanian since the mid 18th century. If Muslims don't belong in Kosovo, whites don't belong in America.



    To tackle terrorism, I would suggest you stop helping terrorists perpetuate a false narrative that Islam is violent and advocate against western imperialism. Every single scholar of note will tell you Da'esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews) if you want to say you know better than scholars, where did you study fiqh and how old were you when you became a Hafiz?


    Stop whining. Muslims exist in the west, east, north and south. Millions are native westerners who converted. Get used to us, better yet, leave behind the dead end polytheism and join us.

    I’m an atheist, not a polytheist. If your brothers at the mosque were brought here in chains they are black Muslims, not immigrants or White converts.

    And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It’s a unique sext for blacks only. If you’re Dutch you’re White and they would never accept you.

    So go home. Posts like yours are a major reason Americans don’t like immigrants. Come here, get a student visa or green card, get a job, pay far less taxes than you would at home and then tell us how terrible we are.

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    Hey Alden,

    You are thinking of NOI - they number like 50k (a drop in the bucket). Most black Muslims became Sunni when the late Imam Warith Deen Muhammad (ra) took leadership of NOI and took most of his flock down the Sunni Orthodox route - following Malcom X (ra) before him.

    Peace.
    , @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    An atheist? Ah I though I was going to have a discussion with a Christian who got things wrong, bit a haughty man child who pretends that he has no creator.



    "And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It’s a unique sext for blacks only. If you’re Dutch you’re White and they would never accept you."



    LOLOLOL

    Are you talking about the Nation? That's not Islam, that's a racial cult with 10k members that is dying out. Most blacks are Sunni Muslims, the same Muslims as 90% of all of us, ever since Brother Malcolm X abandoned the Nation 50 years ago.


    It's funny when you act like an expert, especially when you know nothing.


    I don't care whether Americans like or don't like immigrants, I don't like most Americans so we're even.
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  104. @annamaria
    Meanwhile, change we can believe in: https://www.rt.com/usa/386513-obama-scoops-up-800k-appearances/
    "Obama secures $800,000 for two speaking engagements."
    The scoundrel is being reimbursed for his travails in service to the "deciders."

    An excerpt from the same article:
    "There has been criticism about Obama cashing in on his presidency but the Intercept shed light on the controversial Wall Street investor that is due to host Obama in September.
    Cantor Fitzgerald was the major Wall Street brokerage house that lost 658 of its 960 employees when the World Trade Center was destroyed in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. The company was successful in reaching a settlement in 2013 for $135 million after suing American Airlines for damages. Cantor had originally demanded more than $1 billion in damages claiming American Airlines was negligent in allowing five terrorists to board the plane in Boston that crashed into the World Trade Center’s north tower, where Cantor had its offices.
    The Intercept reported Cantor’s chairman Howard Lutnick and his Cantor partners kept some of the money for the firm and distributed the rest to themselves in proportion to their ownership stake, with Lutnick receiving $25 million. ... None of the money went to any of the surviving families. Over half of the 658 Cantor employees killed had families, three dozen wives were pregnant, and 20 families lost two people in the attack. Two of the widows told the Intercept they were never informed of the settlement, nor that the company had filed a lawsuit in the first place." https://theintercept.com/2017/04/27/wall-street-firm-paying-obama-400000-faced-internal-controversy-after-pocketing-huge-911-settlement/
    Birds of a feather flock together...

    Well, it certainly was easily managed by the ten thousand jack booted thugs who showed up after the Boston Marathon false flag bombing.

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  105. L.K says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Depends on whether you can validate him more than the neocon cabal.


    For the record, Bashar Al Assad and his father Hafez Al Assad along with the SAA and the Baathist state were and are war criminals, and I think that in the long term Assad needs to go. However I do not support western intervention nor do I support the left wing Kurds carving up Syria and threatening Turkey.

    “For the record, Bashar Al Assad and his father Hafez Al Assad along with the SAA and the Baathist state were and are war criminals”

    BS! You correctly point out all the propaganda against Muslims in the West and then totally fail to apply the same skepticism to the mind-boggling amount of atrocity/negative propaganda leveled against Assad, the Syrian Army and the Syrian state.
    Shame on you for such stupidity.

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  106. joe webb says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    Mr Buchanan, I like you, I've always liked you. You're one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn't a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist. Unfortunately most conservatives in America and in my country (the Netherlands) aren't like you. They'll valueless, spineless Zionists who peddle Islamophobia and war to further the Israeli agenda.


    Trump is one of those. The aforementioned Zionist Americans knew that they couldn't win with another neocon fruitcake, so they hedged their bets. They thought that Hillary Clinton would win, and she — being a liberal neocon — would give them most of what they wanted, but they put Trump up as a gamble, to play the part of the post-partisan great white hope who (due to his lack of knowledge and interest in governance) would let them set the agenda and shamelessly pillage the state.


    It was a good act, they duped a lot of people. Worse yet, people who weren't duped were cowed into staying quiet by the people on the internet so desperate for a great white hope that they deified Mr Trump astifigurallah.


    I'm just sad that they duped you too.


    I hope you're well, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala bless you Mr Buchanan.

    if you read his books, you will see that Pat is a smoldering racist.

    JW

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    No PJB is a defender of his race and civilization, which is sadly ending in a PC/Ziocon/Globalist quagmire.
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  107. Talha says:
    @Alden
    I'm an atheist, not a polytheist. If your brothers at the mosque were brought here in chains they are black Muslims, not immigrants or White converts.

    And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It's a unique sext for blacks only. If you're Dutch you're White and they would never accept you.

    So go home. Posts like yours are a major reason Americans don't like immigrants. Come here, get a student visa or green card, get a job, pay far less taxes than you would at home and then tell us how terrible we are.

    Hey Alden,

    You are thinking of NOI – they number like 50k (a drop in the bucket). Most black Muslims became Sunni when the late Imam Warith Deen Muhammad (ra) took leadership of NOI and took most of his flock down the Sunni Orthodox route – following Malcom X (ra) before him.

    Peace.

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  108. @Alden
    I'm an atheist, not a polytheist. If your brothers at the mosque were brought here in chains they are black Muslims, not immigrants or White converts.

    And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It's a unique sext for blacks only. If you're Dutch you're White and they would never accept you.

    So go home. Posts like yours are a major reason Americans don't like immigrants. Come here, get a student visa or green card, get a job, pay far less taxes than you would at home and then tell us how terrible we are.

    An atheist? Ah I though I was going to have a discussion with a Christian who got things wrong, bit a haughty man child who pretends that he has no creator.

    “And American black Muslims do not accept Whites into their sect. It’s a unique sext for blacks only. If you’re Dutch you’re White and they would never accept you.”

    LOLOLOL

    Are you talking about the Nation? That’s not Islam, that’s a racial cult with 10k members that is dying out. Most blacks are Sunni Muslims, the same Muslims as 90% of all of us, ever since Brother Malcolm X abandoned the Nation 50 years ago.

    It’s funny when you act like an expert, especially when you know nothing.

    I don’t care whether Americans like or don’t like immigrants, I don’t like most Americans so we’re even.

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  109. Escher says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I don't have to prove it. Look at her.



    The rest is just irrational whining.


    We aren't guests in the west, my family has been Dutch since Dutch people split off from other Germanic tribes. I'm in the states right now, most of my brothers at the mosque are people who were brought to the new world in chains. Where we live is our home.



    As for Kosovo, a Muslim presence has existed there since the 12th century, it's been majority Albanian since the mid 18th century. If Muslims don't belong in Kosovo, whites don't belong in America.



    To tackle terrorism, I would suggest you stop helping terrorists perpetuate a false narrative that Islam is violent and advocate against western imperialism. Every single scholar of note will tell you Da'esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews) if you want to say you know better than scholars, where did you study fiqh and how old were you when you became a Hafiz?


    Stop whining. Muslims exist in the west, east, north and south. Millions are native westerners who converted. Get used to us, better yet, leave behind the dead end polytheism and join us.

    Every single scholar of note will tell you Da’esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews)

    So those of us who are not ‘people of the book’ have no rights and can be abused at will, according to your great prophet.

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    Hey Escher,

    No - the Maliki and Hanafi schools (historically the most followed and most applied at a governmental level) extended protections to everybody (including mulhidoon [atheist/materialists]) based on how the first generation dealt with Zoroastrianism. The Shafi'i school also - in practical application - extended it to everyone. Trust me, if that wasn't the case - we wouldn't even be talking about Yazidis in Kurdistan today or Buddhists in Indonesia (both being historically staunch Shafi'i regions).

    Peace.

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  110. Talha says:
    @The White Muslim Traditionalist
    I say it because it is, it's a stupid irrational fear perpetuated by international Zionism.

    I bet you can't think of one rational critique of Islam that isn't illogical, based in an ignorance of Islamic theology, or just liberal moaning about how we support traditional gender roles.


    If you think Milo Yiannopoulos or prostitutes like Melania Trump are better for the preservation of traditional values than Tariq Ramadan or Timothy Winter than it's likely you're just a liberal.

    Dang! Brother man! Brought up Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad (aka Tim Winter). I like the cut of your jib bro!

    Hey, were you there when he toured over in the Netherlands about the necessity of traditional Sufism as an integral part of the Islamic framework?

    By the way, have you seen these two talks? Two of my favorites:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDbqABvEN0

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn99uTfEzq8

    Also, you sound like you’re around Philly – no? Maybe Boston? Your comments bring me back to the times I used to visit the masjids in South Central LA. Absolutely loved the brothers there.

    Wa Salaam.

    Ps. Go easy on Rurik (and some of the others), he’s actually a pretty nice guy to converse with even if you end up disagreeing with him – but willing to listen if you approach with mutual respect. I’ve had a rough start with a few of these guys but I’ve come to consider them good online acquaintances (and some even friends) – some of course are incorrigible and have earned a coveted place on my “Don’t waste my time” list.

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    Dear Talha,

    I was just getting my shiv ready for this guy

    I don’t care whether Americans like or don’t like immigrants, I don’t like most Americans so we’re even.
     
    does this sound like the kind of person who Americans (or anyone else) would like in their midst?

    Arrogant, hostile, pugnacious, rude and obnoxious. Almost reminds me of the Rabid Dog of Islam- Doormat, but not quite. But I suppose I should understand that someone calling themselves a 'white Muslim' probably gets treated with less that perfect civility in forums like this from some people, so perhaps I'll just put his odious temperament down to that. But I will say this to 'white Muslim... a nation is a people's home. It's theirs because their ancestors fought for it and built it, or were invited in by the owners or are here out of some less fortunate happenstance, but it nevertheless belongs to the citizens of that nation, and there isn't one nation on this planet that would want someone with your attitude coming in as a guest or under any other circumstances. IOW, if you don't like Americans, and don't respect our ways and our people and laws and our culture and simply don't like us, then do us all a favor and get the fuck out. K?

    We don't need your type and we certainly don't want your type. We have enough hostile residents and immigrants who show zero gratitude for America's benevolent attitude towards immigrants in general, and treat America's kindness like its a weakness to be exploited. So you'll forgive us (and I think I can speak for most Americans) if we'd really rather forgo the pleasure of your company, and any others who "don’t care whether Americans like or don’t like immigrants" and who don't like most Americans".

    I can't even imagine what kind of asshole I'd have to be to want to go live in someone else's country with no regard for whether or not they want me there, and with an open contempt for the people whose country it is. It's mind-boggling to me that there really are people that obnoxious.

    But then, I always have the Doormat to remind me that there certainly are people that rude- and disrespectful and morally repulsive.

    Now, with all that said Talha, as I mentioned, Mr. White Muslim may have just been lashing out as a consequence of others treating him rudely, and his personality really isn't all that objectionable. Forbearance is the word for today, and I'm always reminded of the heroic forbearance of my Islamic teacher Talha. (I know you never asked for that sobriquet, but it's yours nevertheless ; )

    I have to say, that whenever I feel exasperated at something some Muslims do (ISIS sub-humans or corrupt Saudi sheiks or rampaging Muslim immigrants [who clearly don't like their hosts] driving trucks over people) I'm always reminded of the quiet, Zen-like civility and scholarly temperance and patience of my teacher Talha. Whose temperament I feel we would all do well to emulate and aspire to in our lives and our relationships.

    ~ How much of Talha's admirable qualities are due to his Islamic understanding and piety vs. the nature of his genes, are a question for the Gods Themselves.

    Query for my friend Talha: do you have brothers or sisters who are not Islamic, but who are also as measured and erudite as you are?

    Do you know of Hindus who share your quiet depth, humility and intelligence?

    Anyways, keep teaching us Talha, and reminding us all that not all Muslims are angry, belligerent and hostile to our ways. And that some of them, are not only welcome in our countries and in our lands as great boons and blessings to our society, but indeed, we would be honored to have them as guests in our homes and at our tables.

    Peace معلم
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  111. Talha says:
    @Escher

    Every single scholar of note will tell you Da’esh and the like violate basic Islamic laws wrt to the treatment of innocents and the rights of Ahl al Kitab (Christians and Jews)
     
    So those of us who are not 'people of the book' have no rights and can be abused at will, according to your great prophet.

    Hey Escher,

    No – the Maliki and Hanafi schools (historically the most followed and most applied at a governmental level) extended protections to everybody (including mulhidoon [atheist/materialists]) based on how the first generation dealt with Zoroastrianism. The Shafi’i school also – in practical application – extended it to everyone. Trust me, if that wasn’t the case – we wouldn’t even be talking about Yazidis in Kurdistan today or Buddhists in Indonesia (both being historically staunch Shafi’i regions).

    Peace.

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  112. Z-man says:
    @joe webb
    if you read his books, you will see that Pat is a smoldering racist.

    JW

    No PJB is a defender of his race and civilization, which is sadly ending in a PC/Ziocon/Globalist quagmire.

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  113. It just seems so obvious to me now that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is all about Israel. I didn’t always understand it. It’s hard for people to understand what’s going on because there’s such a media blackout on any honest discussion. Even Pat only slips in an oblique reference to “Bibi and the neocons” near the end of the column. But I have to assume the whole thing is an open secret inside the Beltway.

    What the Israelis don’t want is a strong enemy state in the Middle East. From their point of view, the war in Iraq was not a failure, it was a success. A strong state was replaced with chaos and various ragtag militias all trying to kill each other, rather than a unified state with a professional army. It never mattered whether Iraq turned into a democracy, that was just to sell the war.

    It would suit the Israelis just fine if the same thing happens in Syria – Assad overthrown, country descends into chaos and infighting, no more strong Arab state on Israel’s border. All the animosity towards Russia is because Russia supports Assad.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad’s a dictator, but what’s the alternative? He’s not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    The neocons probably approve of us fighting North Korea too, because they don’t want North Korean nuclear technology being shared with the Iranians. More than that though, the neocons just need to maintain the idea of the U.S. being very involved all over the world. Their worst enemy is the idea of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If people start asking, “why is Korea our problem, we should get out of there” then it’s a short leap to “Why is Syria or Iran our problem?”

    People ask when all the endless wars will stop. The answer is, it will continue until we acknowledge and confront the real reason it’s happening: Jewish/Israeli influence on U.S. foreign policy.

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    The controlled media spin is made to confuse and obfuscate the real facts. And the first real biggest fact is that the Zionist Jews are the enemy of the Christian West and will stop at nothing to subjugate the masses for their nefarious goals! They must be defeated! One State Solution now! Neocon/Globalists must be destroyed. Putin Trump Axis Da!! Tax the shit out of the 'Satanic' Hedge Fund 'managers'.
    , @Kiza

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad’s a dictator, but what’s the alternative? He’s not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.
     
    Hello President Trump. OK, just kidding. But yours are almost exact Trump's words before MAGA became Make America (Israeli) Garbage Again.

    You are correct about almost everything, but some things may need a little extra qualification. Yes, the Ziocons/Neocons are involved in the US attack on North Korea, but the potential sale of nuclear technology by NK to Iran is not the main one, if at all. We really need to appreciate that Ziocons have a big vested interest in maintaining US military and economic hegemony over the world because US is their main policy tool. Without US to milk for money and blood, Israel would never be able to keep occupying more and more of its surrounding countries. Therefore, an attack on NK is really an attack on US competitors China and Russia.

    It is interesting to watch the game re North Korea between Trump and Xi. That is a good, good political chess, although Trump is only doing what Ziocons tell him to - they are inventing the game for him, he is their puppet on strings.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    Agree, but with qualifications:

    The Saker uses the term "Anglo-Zionist," and it is most appropriate.

    It is true that Jewish/zionists / Israelis / neocons intend the shattering of states in the ME -- "chaos is our most important product" -- but as Flynt Leverett has said, "they are pushing on an open door."
    The chaos in the entire region pre-dated WWI and involved, primarily, the British, in competition/collusion with the French and, to a lesser extent, Germany. British acts of treachery, duplicity, arrogance, racism, genocide in the region are downright disgusting. I'm becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do -- and they are legion -- they learned from the British. As a young man, Moshe Dayan observed British generals who ordered the destruction of Arab housing; Chaim Weizmann could manipulate the British to give over the Balfour Declaration because Balfour AND the British imperialist weltschauung were corrupt and saw how they thought it could be played to their advantage.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.
    , @jilles dykstra
    USA ME policy began when Roosevelt got a report that USA oil would be depleted in 30 years.
    At the end of 1944 Harold L Ickes struck a deal with Saud of Saudi Arabia.
    Roosevelt met Saud shortly before his death, cruiser Quincy, Bitter Lakes, S end of the Suez canal.
    To this day the USA protects the house of Saud.
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  114. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    Rurik and the rest of the crew, if they TRULY were patriotic, and felt that nuclear war was inevitable by Zionists and their globalist toadies, then they would take matters into their own hands to save tens of millions of white Americans from destruction.
     
    take matters into our own hands?

    how do you propose we do that Corvinus?

    and why would we only want to save the white Americans? I'd like to save all Americans from death and suffering if I could. Who wouldn't?

    the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There's simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along. They're just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can't let go. Russia needs to understand that the Red Army was not seen as liberators in Poland or Ukraine or anywhere else, and demanding that these people honor the Red Army rapists is untenable, and leads to hatred and hostility. If Russia would just let their hatred of Germany go, and realize that all the Nazis that invaded their lands are all dead, and that the German people also suffered terribly in that war, and that Russia was no saint when she went into Poland and elsewhere, and stop acting like victims and grow up and start getting along with their neighbors to the West, then this simple change of tenor would defuse Eastern Europe's willingness to have NATO troops and tanks and missiles on their soil, and it would emasculate the war pigs, and leave them holding their dicks in their hands, instead of arms for the Kagan quislings in Kyiv.

    >>sigh<<

    “take matters into our own hands? how do you propose we do that Corvinus?”

    Are you not a white man with a high IQ? Then you can figure it out rather than complain on a daily basis how the elites are destroying our nation. You have a duty as a patriot to act now, not later.

    “the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There’s simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along.”

    “They’re just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can’t let go.”

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be “taken care of”. Interesting, to say the least. Why can’t they let it go?

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    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be “taken care of”. Interesting, to say the least. Why can’t they let it go?
     
    I see you put that ominous sounding phrase into quotes

    apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context

    I remember a short conversation with you a while back when I quickly came to the obvious conclusion that you were an imbecile and not worthy of being taken seriously.

    now it turns out you're not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS

    ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them.

    You're like those redneck, racist boyz in the IDF who assume all Palestinians want to kill them, because they would certainly like to kill all Palestinians. What you don't realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You're paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus. Let it go. Join the ranks of humanity and find true peace and happiness in this life. Their may not be another. ;)
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  115. Corvinus says:
    @Bobzilla

    You’re one of the few true traditionalists in the American right who isn’t a fringe-crazy type or a flaming racist
     
    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

    “There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> Race is a biological and social construct used in part by race baiters such as Steve Sailer and Al Sharpton to suit their narratives.

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  116. Z-man says:
    @Loveofknowledge
    It just seems so obvious to me now that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is all about Israel. I didn't always understand it. It's hard for people to understand what's going on because there's such a media blackout on any honest discussion. Even Pat only slips in an oblique reference to "Bibi and the neocons" near the end of the column. But I have to assume the whole thing is an open secret inside the Beltway.

    What the Israelis don't want is a strong enemy state in the Middle East. From their point of view, the war in Iraq was not a failure, it was a success. A strong state was replaced with chaos and various ragtag militias all trying to kill each other, rather than a unified state with a professional army. It never mattered whether Iraq turned into a democracy, that was just to sell the war.

    It would suit the Israelis just fine if the same thing happens in Syria - Assad overthrown, country descends into chaos and infighting, no more strong Arab state on Israel's border. All the animosity towards Russia is because Russia supports Assad.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad's a dictator, but what's the alternative? He's not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    The neocons probably approve of us fighting North Korea too, because they don't want North Korean nuclear technology being shared with the Iranians. More than that though, the neocons just need to maintain the idea of the U.S. being very involved all over the world. Their worst enemy is the idea of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If people start asking, "why is Korea our problem, we should get out of there" then it's a short leap to "Why is Syria or Iran our problem?"

    People ask when all the endless wars will stop. The answer is, it will continue until we acknowledge and confront the real reason it's happening: Jewish/Israeli influence on U.S. foreign policy.

    The controlled media spin is made to confuse and obfuscate the real facts. And the first real biggest fact is that the Zionist Jews are the enemy of the Christian West and will stop at nothing to subjugate the masses for their nefarious goals! They must be defeated! One State Solution now! Neocon/Globalists must be destroyed. Putin Trump Axis Da!! Tax the shit out of the ‘Satanic’ Hedge Fund ‘managers’.

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  117. Kiza says:
    @Loveofknowledge
    It just seems so obvious to me now that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is all about Israel. I didn't always understand it. It's hard for people to understand what's going on because there's such a media blackout on any honest discussion. Even Pat only slips in an oblique reference to "Bibi and the neocons" near the end of the column. But I have to assume the whole thing is an open secret inside the Beltway.

    What the Israelis don't want is a strong enemy state in the Middle East. From their point of view, the war in Iraq was not a failure, it was a success. A strong state was replaced with chaos and various ragtag militias all trying to kill each other, rather than a unified state with a professional army. It never mattered whether Iraq turned into a democracy, that was just to sell the war.

    It would suit the Israelis just fine if the same thing happens in Syria - Assad overthrown, country descends into chaos and infighting, no more strong Arab state on Israel's border. All the animosity towards Russia is because Russia supports Assad.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad's a dictator, but what's the alternative? He's not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    The neocons probably approve of us fighting North Korea too, because they don't want North Korean nuclear technology being shared with the Iranians. More than that though, the neocons just need to maintain the idea of the U.S. being very involved all over the world. Their worst enemy is the idea of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If people start asking, "why is Korea our problem, we should get out of there" then it's a short leap to "Why is Syria or Iran our problem?"

    People ask when all the endless wars will stop. The answer is, it will continue until we acknowledge and confront the real reason it's happening: Jewish/Israeli influence on U.S. foreign policy.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad’s a dictator, but what’s the alternative? He’s not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    Hello President Trump. OK, just kidding. But yours are almost exact Trump’s words before MAGA became Make America (Israeli) Garbage Again.

    You are correct about almost everything, but some things may need a little extra qualification. Yes, the Ziocons/Neocons are involved in the US attack on North Korea, but the potential sale of nuclear technology by NK to Iran is not the main one, if at all. We really need to appreciate that Ziocons have a big vested interest in maintaining US military and economic hegemony over the world because US is their main policy tool. Without US to milk for money and blood, Israel would never be able to keep occupying more and more of its surrounding countries. Therefore, an attack on NK is really an attack on US competitors China and Russia.

    It is interesting to watch the game re North Korea between Trump and Xi. That is a good, good political chess, although Trump is only doing what Ziocons tell him to – they are inventing the game for him, he is their puppet on strings.

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    .. Ziocons have a big vested interest in maintaining US military and economic hegemony over the world because US is their main policy tool...

    Therefore, an attack on NK is really an attack on US competitors China and Russia.
     
    intuitive, insightful, excellent comment as per usual

    cuts though the bullshit like a warm knife though butter
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  118. @Loveofknowledge
    It just seems so obvious to me now that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is all about Israel. I didn't always understand it. It's hard for people to understand what's going on because there's such a media blackout on any honest discussion. Even Pat only slips in an oblique reference to "Bibi and the neocons" near the end of the column. But I have to assume the whole thing is an open secret inside the Beltway.

    What the Israelis don't want is a strong enemy state in the Middle East. From their point of view, the war in Iraq was not a failure, it was a success. A strong state was replaced with chaos and various ragtag militias all trying to kill each other, rather than a unified state with a professional army. It never mattered whether Iraq turned into a democracy, that was just to sell the war.

    It would suit the Israelis just fine if the same thing happens in Syria - Assad overthrown, country descends into chaos and infighting, no more strong Arab state on Israel's border. All the animosity towards Russia is because Russia supports Assad.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad's a dictator, but what's the alternative? He's not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    The neocons probably approve of us fighting North Korea too, because they don't want North Korean nuclear technology being shared with the Iranians. More than that though, the neocons just need to maintain the idea of the U.S. being very involved all over the world. Their worst enemy is the idea of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If people start asking, "why is Korea our problem, we should get out of there" then it's a short leap to "Why is Syria or Iran our problem?"

    People ask when all the endless wars will stop. The answer is, it will continue until we acknowledge and confront the real reason it's happening: Jewish/Israeli influence on U.S. foreign policy.

    Agree, but with qualifications:

    The Saker uses the term “Anglo-Zionist,” and it is most appropriate.

    It is true that Jewish/zionists / Israelis / neocons intend the shattering of states in the ME — “chaos is our most important product” — but as Flynt Leverett has said, “they are pushing on an open door.”
    The chaos in the entire region pre-dated WWI and involved, primarily, the British, in competition/collusion with the French and, to a lesser extent, Germany. British acts of treachery, duplicity, arrogance, racism, genocide in the region are downright disgusting. I’m becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do — and they are legion — they learned from the British. As a young man, Moshe Dayan observed British generals who ordered the destruction of Arab housing; Chaim Weizmann could manipulate the British to give over the Balfour Declaration because Balfour AND the British imperialist weltschauung were corrupt and saw how they thought it could be played to their advantage.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.

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    I’m becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do — and they are legion — they learned from the British.
     
    there was a time when British culture and deeds were known and revered for being above all things, honorable and chivalrous. Going back to the days of Richard the Lionheart for instance. Then something happened during the time of Cromwell that set in motion England's descent into perfidy, treachery and suicide. Something anathema to the British character - represented by those tales of the Round Table, and honor above all things.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.
     
    you're right about that

    just like the character of French lawmakers/policy makers

    and German

    and Italian

    and Egyptian

    and Saudi

    and Ukrainian

    and Canadian

    and Japanese

    and Israeli

    and Jordanian

    and Georgian

    and Polish

    and Dutch

    and Australian

    and Austrian

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  119. @Loveofknowledge
    It just seems so obvious to me now that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is all about Israel. I didn't always understand it. It's hard for people to understand what's going on because there's such a media blackout on any honest discussion. Even Pat only slips in an oblique reference to "Bibi and the neocons" near the end of the column. But I have to assume the whole thing is an open secret inside the Beltway.

    What the Israelis don't want is a strong enemy state in the Middle East. From their point of view, the war in Iraq was not a failure, it was a success. A strong state was replaced with chaos and various ragtag militias all trying to kill each other, rather than a unified state with a professional army. It never mattered whether Iraq turned into a democracy, that was just to sell the war.

    It would suit the Israelis just fine if the same thing happens in Syria - Assad overthrown, country descends into chaos and infighting, no more strong Arab state on Israel's border. All the animosity towards Russia is because Russia supports Assad.

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad's a dictator, but what's the alternative? He's not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.

    The neocons probably approve of us fighting North Korea too, because they don't want North Korean nuclear technology being shared with the Iranians. More than that though, the neocons just need to maintain the idea of the U.S. being very involved all over the world. Their worst enemy is the idea of a non-interventionist foreign policy. If people start asking, "why is Korea our problem, we should get out of there" then it's a short leap to "Why is Syria or Iran our problem?"

    People ask when all the endless wars will stop. The answer is, it will continue until we acknowledge and confront the real reason it's happening: Jewish/Israeli influence on U.S. foreign policy.

    USA ME policy began when Roosevelt got a report that USA oil would be depleted in 30 years.
    At the end of 1944 Harold L Ickes struck a deal with Saud of Saudi Arabia.
    Roosevelt met Saud shortly before his death, cruiser Quincy, Bitter Lakes, S end of the Suez canal.
    To this day the USA protects the house of Saud.

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  120. KenH says:
    @Z-man

    At least Reagan was a student of world history and communism so couldn’t be so easily bamboozled and led around by the ear by the likes of the CIA or his cabinet members. The only books Trump seems to have read are his own.
     
    Don't underestimate Trump, he went to an Ivy League school so he must've read some history.
    Yeah General Chrome Dome has to have his wings clipped but he should stay on to placate the Republitards. Maybe this passive aggressive stuff is just Trump being overwhelmed by the job. He should settle down and be his old campaingn self once Melania and Baron move in this summer. You gotta have hope!

    Don’t underestimate Trump, he went to an Ivy League school so he must’ve read some history.

    Sure, some history, but we don’t know how much he learned or retained. I think most universities only mandated one or two courses.

    He seems to have taken leave of his realism and common sense since taking office. It’s almost like he’s working on yet another book titled “Everything I know about Iran, Syria and the Middle East I learned from Jared and Bibi”.

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  121. Rurik says:
    @Talha
    Dang! Brother man! Brought up Shaykh Abdul Hakim Murad (aka Tim Winter). I like the cut of your jib bro!

    Hey, were you there when he toured over in the Netherlands about the necessity of traditional Sufism as an integral part of the Islamic framework?

    By the way, have you seen these two talks? Two of my favorites:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDbqABvEN0
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn99uTfEzq8

    Also, you sound like you're around Philly - no? Maybe Boston? Your comments bring me back to the times I used to visit the masjids in South Central LA. Absolutely loved the brothers there.

    Wa Salaam.

    Ps. Go easy on Rurik (and some of the others), he's actually a pretty nice guy to converse with even if you end up disagreeing with him - but willing to listen if you approach with mutual respect. I've had a rough start with a few of these guys but I've come to consider them good online acquaintances (and some even friends) - some of course are incorrigible and have earned a coveted place on my "Don't waste my time" list.

    Dear Talha,

    I was just getting my shiv ready for this guy

    I don’t care whether Americans like or don’t like immigrants, I don’t like most Americans so we’re even.

    does this sound like the kind of person who Americans (or anyone else) would like in their midst?

    Arrogant, hostile, pugnacious, rude and obnoxious. Almost reminds me of the Rabid Dog of Islam- Doormat, but not quite. But I suppose I should understand that someone calling themselves a ‘white Muslim’ probably gets treated with less that perfect civility in forums like this from some people, so perhaps I’ll just put his odious temperament down to that. But I will say this to ‘white Muslim… a nation is a people’s home. It’s theirs because their ancestors fought for it and built it, or were invited in by the owners or are here out of some less fortunate happenstance, but it nevertheless belongs to the citizens of that nation, and there isn’t one nation on this planet that would want someone with your attitude coming in as a guest or under any other circumstances. IOW, if you don’t like Americans, and don’t respect our ways and our people and laws and our culture and simply don’t like us, then do us all a favor and get the fuck out. K?

    We don’t need your type and we certainly don’t want your type. We have enough hostile residents and immigrants who show zero gratitude for America’s benevolent attitude towards immigrants in general, and treat America’s kindness like its a weakness to be exploited. So you’ll forgive us (and I think I can speak for most Americans) if we’d really rather forgo the pleasure of your company, and any others who “don’t care whether Americans like or don’t like immigrants” and who don’t like most Americans”.

    I can’t even imagine what kind of asshole I’d have to be to want to go live in someone else’s country with no regard for whether or not they want me there, and with an open contempt for the people whose country it is. It’s mind-boggling to me that there really are people that obnoxious.

    But then, I always have the Doormat to remind me that there certainly are people that rude- and disrespectful and morally repulsive.

    Now, with all that said Talha, as I mentioned, Mr. White Muslim may have just been lashing out as a consequence of others treating him rudely, and his personality really isn’t all that objectionable. Forbearance is the word for today, and I’m always reminded of the heroic forbearance of my Islamic teacher Talha. (I know you never asked for that sobriquet, but it’s yours nevertheless ; )

    I have to say, that whenever I feel exasperated at something some Muslims do (ISIS sub-humans or corrupt Saudi sheiks or rampaging Muslim immigrants [who clearly don't like their hosts] driving trucks over people) I’m always reminded of the quiet, Zen-like civility and scholarly temperance and patience of my teacher Talha. Whose temperament I feel we would all do well to emulate and aspire to in our lives and our relationships.

    ~ How much of Talha’s admirable qualities are due to his Islamic understanding and piety vs. the nature of his genes, are a question for the Gods Themselves.

    Query for my friend Talha: do you have brothers or sisters who are not Islamic, but who are also as measured and erudite as you are?

    Do you know of Hindus who share your quiet depth, humility and intelligence?

    Anyways, keep teaching us Talha, and reminding us all that not all Muslims are angry, belligerent and hostile to our ways. And that some of them, are not only welcome in our countries and in our lands as great boons and blessings to our society, but indeed, we would be honored to have them as guests in our homes and at our tables.

    Peace معلم

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  122. annamaria says:
    @Kiza
    I believe YES. The risk is that things run out of control, but this has never happened before, right? Like WW1, home for Christmas, war to end all wars, cake-walk etc etc.

    Just watch any group of children on a playground playing some rough game - how quickly things get out of control.

    Bluffing preparedness to initiate a nuclear war is so stupid that it is practically equal to waging one.

    Agree

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  123. Agent76 says:

    December 24, 2013 The Worldwide Network of US Military Bases The Global Deployment of US Military Personnel

    The US Military has bases in *63* countries. Brand new military bases have been built since September 11, 2001 in seven countries. In total, there are 255,065 US military personnel deployed Worldwide. These facilities include a total of 845,441 different buildings and equipments. The underlying land surface is of the order of *30* million acres. According to Gelman, who examined 2005 official Pentagon data, the US is thought to own a total of *737* bases in foreign lands. Adding to the bases inside U.S. territory, the total land area occupied by US military bases domestically within the US and internationally is of the order of *2,202,735 hectares*, which makes the *Pentagon* one of the largest landowners worldwide!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564

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    I wonder why we are $20T in debt. Give me some time to dig into this a bit more, right now it's kind of hard to understand. Our military obviously is underfunded, that's for sure, bases in *only* 63 countries? Only 737 bases? There are "bad guys" in a lot more places than that. Let's not think about the costs, this is the Warren Tear and no expense can be spared.

    'murica
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  124. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus
    "take matters into our own hands? how do you propose we do that Corvinus?"

    Are you not a white man with a high IQ? Then you can figure it out rather than complain on a daily basis how the elites are destroying our nation. You have a duty as a patriot to act now, not later.

    "the best way I can think of to prevent war would be to get Russia to find a path to rapprochement with its neighbors to the west. There’s simply no earthly reason on the planet for Russia and Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states not to get along."

    "They’re just so damn fixated on their narratives vis-a-vis that evil war. And can’t let go."

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be "taken care of". Interesting, to say the least. Why can't they let it go?

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be “taken care of”. Interesting, to say the least. Why can’t they let it go?

    I see you put that ominous sounding phrase into quotes

    apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context

    I remember a short conversation with you a while back when I quickly came to the obvious conclusion that you were an imbecile and not worthy of being taken seriously.

    now it turns out you’re not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS

    ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them.

    You’re like those redneck, racist boyz in the IDF who assume all Palestinians want to kill them, because they would certainly like to kill all Palestinians. What you don’t realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You’re paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus. Let it go. Join the ranks of humanity and find true peace and happiness in this life. Their may not be another. ;)

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    "apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context"

    You must have a guilty conscience. Of course YOU specifically didn't make that reference, but there are people whom you have a common interest in (anti-Jew, anti-Zionist, anti-elitists) who do share those sentiments. Again, why can't they let it go?

    "ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them."

    Again, I'm NOT Jewish.

    "What you don’t realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You’re paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus."

    Now THIS is projection.
    , @L.K
    Rurik to Corvinus: "now it turns out you’re not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS"

    Wow, it took you this long to figure this out? Well, I suppose better late than never!
    :-)
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  125. Rurik says:
    @Kiza

    From the American nationalist point of view the situation looks totally different. We ask, what good could come from overthrowing Assad? The country will fall apart like Iraq did and ISIS will fill the vacuum. Sure Assad’s a dictator, but what’s the alternative? He’s not that bad, he used to be considered something of a reformer by mideast standards as recently as 2000. We should make common cause with the Russians and Assad and keep the country stable and fight ISIS together.
     
    Hello President Trump. OK, just kidding. But yours are almost exact Trump's words before MAGA became Make America (Israeli) Garbage Again.

    You are correct about almost everything, but some things may need a little extra qualification. Yes, the Ziocons/Neocons are involved in the US attack on North Korea, but the potential sale of nuclear technology by NK to Iran is not the main one, if at all. We really need to appreciate that Ziocons have a big vested interest in maintaining US military and economic hegemony over the world because US is their main policy tool. Without US to milk for money and blood, Israel would never be able to keep occupying more and more of its surrounding countries. Therefore, an attack on NK is really an attack on US competitors China and Russia.

    It is interesting to watch the game re North Korea between Trump and Xi. That is a good, good political chess, although Trump is only doing what Ziocons tell him to - they are inventing the game for him, he is their puppet on strings.

    .. Ziocons have a big vested interest in maintaining US military and economic hegemony over the world because US is their main policy tool…

    Therefore, an attack on NK is really an attack on US competitors China and Russia.

    intuitive, insightful, excellent comment as per usual

    cuts though the bullshit like a warm knife though butter

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  126. Rurik says:
    @SolontoCroesus
    Agree, but with qualifications:

    The Saker uses the term "Anglo-Zionist," and it is most appropriate.

    It is true that Jewish/zionists / Israelis / neocons intend the shattering of states in the ME -- "chaos is our most important product" -- but as Flynt Leverett has said, "they are pushing on an open door."
    The chaos in the entire region pre-dated WWI and involved, primarily, the British, in competition/collusion with the French and, to a lesser extent, Germany. British acts of treachery, duplicity, arrogance, racism, genocide in the region are downright disgusting. I'm becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do -- and they are legion -- they learned from the British. As a young man, Moshe Dayan observed British generals who ordered the destruction of Arab housing; Chaim Weizmann could manipulate the British to give over the Balfour Declaration because Balfour AND the British imperialist weltschauung were corrupt and saw how they thought it could be played to their advantage.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.

    I’m becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do — and they are legion — they learned from the British.

    there was a time when British culture and deeds were known and revered for being above all things, honorable and chivalrous. Going back to the days of Richard the Lionheart for instance. Then something happened during the time of Cromwell that set in motion England’s descent into perfidy, treachery and suicide. Something anathema to the British character – represented by those tales of the Round Table, and honor above all things.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.

    you’re right about that

    just like the character of French lawmakers/policy makers

    and German

    and Italian

    and Egyptian

    and Saudi

    and Ukrainian

    and Canadian

    and Japanese

    and Israeli

    and Jordanian

    and Georgian

    and Polish

    and Dutch

    and Australian

    and Austrian

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    ah

    Iran

    not on your list.

    I think your list, which I suspect you intended to reflect the universality of the evil tendencies of man/governments, is problematic.
    Perhaps it the the attempt to express that "all have sinned" that is a mistake: I do believe there are some who have been more sinned-against-than-sinning, and that failing to properly judge who were the sinners and who the sinned against; why those sinners fell into the trap of evil; and requiring the the sinners make recompense.

    When justice is perverted -- as at Versailles, Nuremberg, the accusation that Saddam was complicit in 9/11; the sodomy-assassination of Qaddafi; the judgment that "Assad used CW" -- then the entire system of justice goes awry. It's like rigging a physical exam so the physician can't properly diagnose that you have cancer.

    I believe it is inherent in human nature to seek to equalize one's standing in the world; people will seek justice, one way or another.

    Falsely claiming victimhood is a crime of irredeemable perversion.
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  127. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be “taken care of”. Interesting, to say the least. Why can’t they let it go?
     
    I see you put that ominous sounding phrase into quotes

    apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context

    I remember a short conversation with you a while back when I quickly came to the obvious conclusion that you were an imbecile and not worthy of being taken seriously.

    now it turns out you're not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS

    ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them.

    You're like those redneck, racist boyz in the IDF who assume all Palestinians want to kill them, because they would certainly like to kill all Palestinians. What you don't realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You're paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus. Let it go. Join the ranks of humanity and find true peace and happiness in this life. Their may not be another. ;)

    “apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context”

    You must have a guilty conscience. Of course YOU specifically didn’t make that reference, but there are people whom you have a common interest in (anti-Jew, anti-Zionist, anti-elitists) who do share those sentiments. Again, why can’t they let it go?

    “ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them.”

    Again, I’m NOT Jewish.

    “What you don’t realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You’re paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus.”

    Now THIS is projection.

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  128. Old fogey says:

    Many thanks for this excellent column, Mr. Buchanan. I applaud your intellect, your courage, and your indomitable spirit to keep fighting the good fight.

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  129. L.K says:
    @Rurik

    Similar to people who are fixated on the belief that Jews and elites dominate the world and need to be “taken care of”. Interesting, to say the least. Why can’t they let it go?
     
    I see you put that ominous sounding phrase into quotes

    apparently suggesting (dishonestly) that I said those words in that context

    I remember a short conversation with you a while back when I quickly came to the obvious conclusion that you were an imbecile and not worthy of being taken seriously.

    now it turns out you're not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS

    ya know what Jews like you do..? they project their own hatreds and murderous id onto others who they feel should feel that way about them.

    You're like those redneck, racist boyz in the IDF who assume all Palestinians want to kill them, because they would certainly like to kill all Palestinians. What you don't realize is that your kind of hate is a corrosive cancer of the soul, and will rot away your peace of mind and contentment with life. You're paying a very high price for the rancor in your id Corvinus. Let it go. Join the ranks of humanity and find true peace and happiness in this life. Their may not be another. ;)

    Rurik to Corvinus: “now it turns out you’re not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS”

    Wow, it took you this long to figure this out? Well, I suppose better late than never!
    :-)

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    I'm trying to conjure my inner-Talha and show temperance and generosity at all times L.K., but a person can only take so much ;)
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  130. Rurik says:

    anti-Zionist, anti-elitists) who do share those sentiments. Again, why can’t they let it go?

    because we’re sick of the contrived wars for fun and profit

    we’re sick of the humiliations and oppressions that the Palestinians are forced to suffer, because of the corruption of our governments by Zionist$

    we’re sick of our blood and treasure being squandered to fulfill some Nazi-type of Zio-Jewish-murderous, Old Testament supremacy in the holy land.

    we’re sick of the serial war mongering and terrorizing of the planet with drones and police state thuggishness by Rothschild and his minions (that would be you ; )

    we’re sick of the Orwellian attacks upon our freedoms and conversations and way of life

    we’re sick of the lies and 9/11 false flag attacks and so many other things Corvinus, and that’s why we speak out against Zionism as it’s being practiced today. And there are thousands upon thousands+ of Jews who agree with us, and are sick of if all too.

    so go ahead and dissemble all you want, but our words are direct and true and motivated by simple human decency and a desire to see all people prosper and thrive. Not on some petty need to see others suffer so that we may wallow in masturbatory and thuggish, Old Testament/racist glee at the death and suffering of others.

    join us, and feel a tremendous wave of love and grace come over you. You’ll stop hating and start respecting yourself and others. The skies will open and your heart will be filled with hope and peace an new appreciation for being alive! That is what a human heart is for Corvinus, not rancor and hatred.

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    "because we’re sick of the contrived wars for fun and profit"

    I concur.

    "we’re sick of the humiliations and oppressions that the Palestinians are forced to suffer,"

    I concur.

    "because of the corruption of our governments by Zionist$"

    Overgeneralization.

    "we’re sick of our blood and treasure being squandered to fulfill some Nazi-type of Zio-Jewish-murderous, Old Testament supremacy in the holy land."

    Overgeneralization.

    "we’re sick of the serial war mongering and terrorizing of the planet with drones and police state thuggishness by Rothschild and his minions (that would be you ; )"

    Conspiracy theory regarding the power and authority of the Rothschilds.

    "we’re sick of the Orwellian attacks upon our freedoms and conversations and way of life"

    And who is this "our" you speak of? All Americans citizens, or just white ones?

    "we’re sick of the lies and 9/11 false flag attacks..."

    Not entirely accurate.
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  131. Rurik says:
    @L.K
    Rurik to Corvinus: "now it turns out you’re not only an imbecile, but also a dishonest, lying POS"

    Wow, it took you this long to figure this out? Well, I suppose better late than never!
    :-)

    I’m trying to conjure my inner-Talha and show temperance and generosity at all times L.K., but a person can only take so much ;)

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  132. @Rurik

    I’m becoming persuaded that many of the evil things Jewish zionists do — and they are legion — they learned from the British.
     
    there was a time when British culture and deeds were known and revered for being above all things, honorable and chivalrous. Going back to the days of Richard the Lionheart for instance. Then something happened during the time of Cromwell that set in motion England's descent into perfidy, treachery and suicide. Something anathema to the British character - represented by those tales of the Round Table, and honor above all things.

    American lawmakers/policy makers do not have clean hands; zionists succeed because the Americans they co-opt are cowardly and corrupt.
     
    you're right about that

    just like the character of French lawmakers/policy makers

    and German

    and Italian

    and Egyptian

    and Saudi

    and Ukrainian

    and Canadian

    and Japanese

    and Israeli

    and Jordanian

    and Georgian

    and Polish

    and Dutch

    and Australian

    and Austrian

    ...

    ah

    Iran

    not on your list.

    I think your list, which I suspect you intended to reflect the universality of the evil tendencies of man/governments, is problematic.
    Perhaps it the the attempt to express that “all have sinned” that is a mistake: I do believe there are some who have been more sinned-against-than-sinning, and that failing to properly judge who were the sinners and who the sinned against; why those sinners fell into the trap of evil; and requiring the the sinners make recompense.

    When justice is perverted — as at Versailles, Nuremberg, the accusation that Saddam was complicit in 9/11; the sodomy-assassination of Qaddafi; the judgment that “Assad used CW” — then the entire system of justice goes awry. It’s like rigging a physical exam so the physician can’t properly diagnose that you have cancer.

    I believe it is inherent in human nature to seek to equalize one’s standing in the world; people will seek justice, one way or another.

    Falsely claiming victimhood is a crime of irredeemable perversion.

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  133. Rurik says:

    I think your list, which I suspect you intended to reflect the universality of the evil tendencies of man/governments, is problematic.

    but you’re mistaken, it was intended to reflect those men and governments that are evil, not any kind of blanket condemnation. Iran was specifically not on the list because Iran’s government does not fall under the category of ‘lawmakers/policy makers [who] do not have clean hands; like the ones on the list.

    I believe it is inherent in human nature to seek to equalize one’s standing in the world;

    hmm..

    what pray is that supposed to mean?

    perhaps it’s intended to suggest and convey that virtually every single American citizen is equally guilty of the crimes of its government, and Americans more so than the citizens of those nations that I specifically listed. Yes?

    Do you suppose that Alexander Solzhenitsyn should have felt guilt for being a citizen of the same country as the people who were running the gulags that he was a guest in?

    and that for him to point out that this is hysterical idiocy might prompt you to offer: “Falsely claiming victimhood is a crime of irredeemable perversion.”

    ?

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  134. @Anon
    Maybe a fool is all he can manage in the prison that is the White House.

    It is about time for Pat Buchanan to wake up to the present day reality of America and Trump presidency.
    Trump is out of his depth playing POTUS. Trump is no longer in charge! The Establishment has taken over, tamed and put Trump under leash. The Establishment will humor him and put up with his antics as long as he doesn’t get out of hand.
    It has taken less than 100 days for other nations to see through Trump’s foreign policy bluffs, which he calls “strong negotiating positions”. They are being seen as what they really are: bluffs. A silly gesture such as putting 100 Senators on a bus, firing cruise missiles at Syria or dropping MOAB in Afghanistan does not frighten China, Russia or North Korea; nevertheless they might feign fear and respect to play along.
    Trump’s domestic agenda is in shambles. His ascendance to presidency has decimated and wreaked havoc in the GOP top. The Republican party is divided as never before. There is no strong leader in sight among Republicans to reassemble the party and impose unity; all thanks to Donald J. Trump.
    Mitt Romney was probably right when he said Trump is a phony, a fake; but then he went begging Trump for a job in his cabinet.
    In the meantime Mike Pence is trying to look presidential and be ready. The call to duty might arrive unexpectedly.

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  135. As I get older and hopefully wiser I am agreeing with the u and many who speak the truth in general like Ron Paul , Paul Craig Roberts. I myself come from the opposite side of the political spectrum but I like to use reason and logic with regards to my arguments just like Pat Buchanon.
    I am an avid student of history and thru out the years I have been noticing how the US is similar to the Roman Empire. hence why i use the phrase pax-amaericana often in my comments .
    My take in the Trump regimes foreign policy moves and his 180 degree turn in all his policy promises during the campaign for POTUS is similar to Roman ancient history. During Julius ceasers times and prior to his ascndancy it was called ther Trimvirate period of Roman politics where thre generals virtually ran the country . Well pax-amariccana has just enterd that period. I ,might add Trump presidency has blatantly showed that the Us is run and bought off by the military indusrila complex . We r living in a corporatocrocy The Corporate State. Mussolini wrote about it Lo Stato Corporato hernce fascism is alive and well thru out the west. The wage gap between the sheeple and the oligarchs is largest since the Gilded age but hell facts have no place in our world this day and age , But what ivanka trump is wearing today is far more important or the so called threat of North Korea. When was the last time North Korea ever bomb or raided a country. When was the last Time Iran raided or bombed a country.

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  136. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    anti-Zionist, anti-elitists) who do share those sentiments. Again, why can’t they let it go?
     
    because we're sick of the contrived wars for fun and profit

    we're sick of the humiliations and oppressions that the Palestinians are forced to suffer, because of the corruption of our governments by Zionist$

    we're sick of our blood and treasure being squandered to fulfill some Nazi-type of Zio-Jewish-murderous, Old Testament supremacy in the holy land.

    we're sick of the serial war mongering and terrorizing of the planet with drones and police state thuggishness by Rothschild and his minions (that would be you ; )

    we're sick of the Orwellian attacks upon our freedoms and conversations and way of life

    we're sick of the lies and 9/11 false flag attacks and so many other things Corvinus, and that's why we speak out against Zionism as it's being practiced today. And there are thousands upon thousands+ of Jews who agree with us, and are sick of if all too.

    so go ahead and dissemble all you want, but our words are direct and true and motivated by simple human decency and a desire to see all people prosper and thrive. Not on some petty need to see others suffer so that we may wallow in masturbatory and thuggish, Old Testament/racist glee at the death and suffering of others.

    http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/H3B32s.gif

    join us, and feel a tremendous wave of love and grace come over you. You'll stop hating and start respecting yourself and others. The skies will open and your heart will be filled with hope and peace an new appreciation for being alive! That is what a human heart is for Corvinus, not rancor and hatred.

    “because we’re sick of the contrived wars for fun and profit”

    I concur.

    “we’re sick of the humiliations and oppressions that the Palestinians are forced to suffer,”

    I concur.

    “because of the corruption of our governments by Zionist$”

    Overgeneralization.

    “we’re sick of our blood and treasure being squandered to fulfill some Nazi-type of Zio-Jewish-murderous, Old Testament supremacy in the holy land.”

    Overgeneralization.

    “we’re sick of the serial war mongering and terrorizing of the planet with drones and police state thuggishness by Rothschild and his minions (that would be you ; )”

    Conspiracy theory regarding the power and authority of the Rothschilds.

    “we’re sick of the Orwellian attacks upon our freedoms and conversations and way of life”

    And who is this “our” you speak of? All Americans citizens, or just white ones?

    “we’re sick of the lies and 9/11 false flag attacks…”

    Not entirely accurate.

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  137. @Anon
    Maybe a fool is all he can manage in the prison that is the White House.

    I think the White House cannot manage anymore fools!

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  138. joe webb says:

    Fw: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.
    People
    joe webb Today at 11:12 PM
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    From: joe webb
    To: Joe Webb
    Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:11 PM
    Subject: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.

    It includes the material that Theodore Postel wrote up at The Unz Review a couple weeks ago. The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)

    The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)
    A Quick Turnaround Assessment of the White House Intelligence Report Issued on April 11, 2017
    I

    The reporter’s name, I think, was something like Peterson Sharp. This is an amazing news story that certainly would not get aired by Fox News. It includes a lot of video of Trump’s earlier statements of not getting into Syria, etc. and his recent flip Words on getting Into War (for The Jews..my words) in Syria.

    It also has Tillerson flipping. ( We have always been at war with Oceania, remember….? down the memory hole, except that now we got TV show records that are so far, apparently stored in the Library of Congress as well as lots of other places.

    The point generally in the show is that, 1. Assad would have to have been crazy to do it (what the US charges} what with his successes in the war, and the need to use gas, if he has/had any after all, somewhere else in a real battle with Isis going on at the same time as Khan Shaykhun. 2. That Isis has a long history of using poison gas in Syria and Iraq. And, that per the various interviews with Syrians, that Assad comes off looking the best of the lot. 3. And finally, that the Whtie Helmets are probably Isis . This is where I tuned in, so I don’t know what else the show said in its beginning.

    OAN is great. It is conservative, probably more so than Fox News. It also has the most beautiful skin job in Liz Walker, and probably the brightest gal on TV News. What a show …put her together with Tucker Carlson.

    My gawd! What’s next? A program on the jew neocons? Trump as hijacked/blackmailed by the jews and Liberals?

    OAN …One America News. Is Trump a stooge for the Jews? Have we been jewconned? And Adelson, was it ? who contributed a hundred ? million to Trump?

    Joe Webb

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    "..the Whtie Helmets are probably ISIS."
    Agree
    , @annamaria
    Here is a proper identification of the White Helmets:
    "Khan Shaykhun is a locality situated in the governorate of Idlib. It is occupied by several jihadist groups and under the de facto administration of Nato. The only source on the Chemical Incident of 4 April 2017 is the White Helmets. This is an organization composed of members of Al-Quaeda and led by MI6 Officers under the command of James Le Mesurier."
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article196019.html
    "U.S./UK Paid "White Helmets" Help Blocking Water To 5 Million Thirsty Syrians:" https://www.sott.net/article/338542-US-UK-paid-White-Helmets-are-helping-to-block-water-to-5-million-thirsty-Syrians
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Liz Walker or Liz Wheeler? Liz Walker is black and possibly not your type.
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  139. annamaria says:
    @joe webb
    Fw: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.
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    joe webb Today at 11:12 PM
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    ----- Forwarded Message -----
    From: joe webb
    To: Joe Webb
    Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:11 PM
    Subject: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.

    It includes the material that Theodore Postel wrote up at The Unz Review a couple weeks ago. The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)


    The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)
    A Quick Turnaround Assessment of the White House Intelligence Report Issued on April 11, 2017
    I

    The reporter's name, I think, was something like Peterson Sharp. This is an amazing news story that certainly would not get aired by Fox News. It includes a lot of video of Trump's earlier statements of not getting into Syria, etc. and his recent flip Words on getting Into War (for The Jews..my words) in Syria.

    It also has Tillerson flipping. ( We have always been at war with Oceania, remember....? down the memory hole, except that now we got TV show records that are so far, apparently stored in the Library of Congress as well as lots of other places.

    The point generally in the show is that, 1. Assad would have to have been crazy to do it (what the US charges} what with his successes in the war, and the need to use gas, if he has/had any after all, somewhere else in a real battle with Isis going on at the same time as Khan Shaykhun. 2. That Isis has a long history of using poison gas in Syria and Iraq. And, that per the various interviews with Syrians, that Assad comes off looking the best of the lot. 3. And finally, that the Whtie Helmets are probably Isis . This is where I tuned in, so I don't know what else the show said in its beginning.

    OAN is great. It is conservative, probably more so than Fox News. It also has the most beautiful skin job in Liz Walker, and probably the brightest gal on TV News. What a show ...put her together with Tucker Carlson.

    My gawd! What's next? A program on the jew neocons? Trump as hijacked/blackmailed by the jews and Liberals?

    OAN ...One America News. Is Trump a stooge for the Jews? Have we been jewconned? And Adelson, was it ? who contributed a hundred ? million to Trump?

    Joe Webb

    “..the Whtie Helmets are probably ISIS.”
    Agree

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  140. annamaria says:
    @joe webb
    Fw: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.
    People
    joe webb Today at 11:12 PM
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    ----- Forwarded Message -----
    From: joe webb
    To: Joe Webb
    Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:11 PM
    Subject: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.

    It includes the material that Theodore Postel wrote up at The Unz Review a couple weeks ago. The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)


    The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)
    A Quick Turnaround Assessment of the White House Intelligence Report Issued on April 11, 2017
    I

    The reporter's name, I think, was something like Peterson Sharp. This is an amazing news story that certainly would not get aired by Fox News. It includes a lot of video of Trump's earlier statements of not getting into Syria, etc. and his recent flip Words on getting Into War (for The Jews..my words) in Syria.

    It also has Tillerson flipping. ( We have always been at war with Oceania, remember....? down the memory hole, except that now we got TV show records that are so far, apparently stored in the Library of Congress as well as lots of other places.

    The point generally in the show is that, 1. Assad would have to have been crazy to do it (what the US charges} what with his successes in the war, and the need to use gas, if he has/had any after all, somewhere else in a real battle with Isis going on at the same time as Khan Shaykhun. 2. That Isis has a long history of using poison gas in Syria and Iraq. And, that per the various interviews with Syrians, that Assad comes off looking the best of the lot. 3. And finally, that the Whtie Helmets are probably Isis . This is where I tuned in, so I don't know what else the show said in its beginning.

    OAN is great. It is conservative, probably more so than Fox News. It also has the most beautiful skin job in Liz Walker, and probably the brightest gal on TV News. What a show ...put her together with Tucker Carlson.

    My gawd! What's next? A program on the jew neocons? Trump as hijacked/blackmailed by the jews and Liberals?

    OAN ...One America News. Is Trump a stooge for the Jews? Have we been jewconned? And Adelson, was it ? who contributed a hundred ? million to Trump?

    Joe Webb

    Here is a proper identification of the White Helmets:
    “Khan Shaykhun is a locality situated in the governorate of Idlib. It is occupied by several jihadist groups and under the de facto administration of Nato. The only source on the Chemical Incident of 4 April 2017 is the White Helmets. This is an organization composed of members of Al-Quaeda and led by MI6 Officers under the command of James Le Mesurier.”

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article196019.html

    “U.S./UK Paid “White Helmets” Help Blocking Water To 5 Million Thirsty Syrians:” https://www.sott.net/article/338542-US-UK-paid-White-Helmets-are-helping-to-block-water-to-5-million-thirsty-Syrians

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  141. annamaria says:

    More in the White Helmets and Le Mesurier in particular.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-syria-civil-defence-exposes-natos-white-helmets-as-terrorist-linked-imposters/5547528

    “White Helmets founder Le Mesurier, who graduated from Britain’s elite Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, is said to be an ‘ex’ British military intelligence officer involved in a number of other NATO ‘humanitarian intervention’ theatres of war, including Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, as well as postings in Lebanon and Palestine … With over $60 million in their back pocket courtesy of USAID, the UK Foreign Office and various EU nations like the Netherlands, this group is possibly one of the most feted and funded entities within the west’s anti-Syrian NGO complex….
    They claim they are not “tied to any political group in Syria, or anywhere else”, yet they are embedded with Al Nusra Front, ISIS and affiliated with the majority of US allied terrorist brigades infesting Syria. … The majority [of Syrians] had never heard of them, others who follow western media noted that they are a “NATO construct being used to infiltrate Syria as a major player in the terrorist support network.”

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    and thanks Annamarie. The Trump may be another god that failed, but he at least is going after the illegals. I apologized to the ARabs, etc. for their sacrifice...that the Jews Must Live position of Protestantism and largely also now Catholic lunacy as well....cannot be escaped in US politics.

    That a huge part of the present muslim revolt is due to the Jews is clear. Would there have been another Muslim assault on Europe today without Israel and US True Belief in the Jews?

    I doubt it. However, it is here in Europe as well as in the US and must be stopped. Period.

    It is our land and anyone challenging it must be, ahem , killed or driven out. It is that simple.

    Arabs and Muslims in the European North should go home and urge their brothers and sisters to do the same. Otherwise, it will be war and with 50 million Muzzies in Europe, it will be a catastrophe for arabs especially.

    The only way to deal with terrorists is to kill their families and friends if they terrorize us. That is the terrible logic of it. Hostage taking is as old as mankind. Hostages can be preserved if the peace is kept, and if war starts, they are sacrificed.

    Then the ships start sailing south, with tens of thousands of arabs, etc. on board. Any resistance will be met with extreme killing. The Mediterranean will have to be monitored to see how many bodies it can accommodate.

    You want the Truth? This is the truth. Sentimentality will soon be over.

    Joe Webb

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  142. @Ace
    You say "Islamophobia" like it's a bad thing.

    You say “Islamophobia” like it’s a bad thing.

    You both say “Islamophobia” like it’s a thing.

    Compare Bobzilla…

    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

    I note that Rurik also uses “Islamophobic” as if it means something, Does he also believe that “anti-semitism” is a thing?

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    Anti-racism as an ideology, or Counter-Myth, (The Myth of Race Equality), seems to have gotten started with the immigration debates of early 20th century in the US. The assault on normal White standards of racial hygiene, or race realism, was begun by the folks trying to beat their way into the US. That would be the Jews.

    Franz Boas started it and the rest is history. There is an article in this, or more. Of course, the whole campaign got-up steam after Hitler and Jewish propaganda and Jewish pseudo-social science. For those who want to read up on the intellectual times in this regard, Carl Degler's In Search of Human Nature is good, not perfect.

    But it is a kind of intellectual history of Darwinism in this regard in the US anyway. It never was completely stamped out by our enemies, jew and liberal, and rose again with socio-biology and now HBD, etc.

    I guess that this book is indispensable for historical reasons.

    Joe Webb
    , @Rurik

    I note that Rurik also uses “Islamophobic” as if it means something, Does he also believe that “anti-semitism” is a thing?
     
    hello EnglishMike,

    I was perusing the comments and came across this..

    Islamophobia, (an irrational fear and loathing of Islam) is definitely 'a thing'. It exists where people generally are being propagandized into fearing Islam and Muslims for things that are not true.

    For instance, by now most thoughtful people (with an independently functioning mind) know that our government and media lied about 9//11 at the very least, or at worst, was a false flag attack/crime to augment the Eternal War (for Israel) on 'terror'.

    But for many, many tens of millions of Americans and others the world over, this crime was committed by psychotic Muslim lunatics who hate America because we're too free. So for all those pitifully deluded American sheep, they suffer a phobia against Muslims for being murderous assholes willing to martyr themselves because Americans fornicate and vote and therefor must die a thousand deaths.

    If you were to believe that Muslims are willing to kill themselves in balls of fire because Americans fornicate and vote, then you could aptly be described as Islamophobic.

    Similarly, in line with your query... there certainly is such a thing as anti-Semitism. Or an antipathy for Jews simply because they're Jews. A Palestinian, for instance, may object when he hears that his daughter has decided to marry an Israeli Jew, simply because the young man is Jewish, regardless of what happens to be his character as a human being. Perhaps he might be forgiven such bigotry under the circumstances, but an irrational and blanket condemnation of a people because of their religion or ethnicity is a sad reality, and many, many people suffer both sides of such prejudices.

    All people are individuals, and should be judged according to their individual characters, not based on the group that they happen to have been born into.

    But that works better from the air conditioned comfort of a man's study with a full stomach and a full heart. Not so much when your tribe is being brutally savaged by the members of another tribe, when civility and the luxury of taking every man and woman as an individual breaks down under an assault. So as with all things, this too is relative.

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  143. annamaria says:

    The fearless Postol (who is several orders more courageous than the petty opportunists that currently represent the Pentagon), Syria, and a well-deserved black eye to “clever” George Monbiot, a known British presstitute: https://off-guardian.org/2017/04/29/media-lens-skewers-monbiots-syria-nonsense/

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  144. @Agent76
    December 24, 2013 The Worldwide Network of US Military Bases The Global Deployment of US Military Personnel

    The US Military has bases in *63* countries. Brand new military bases have been built since September 11, 2001 in seven countries. In total, there are 255,065 US military personnel deployed Worldwide. These facilities include a total of 845,441 different buildings and equipments. The underlying land surface is of the order of *30* million acres. According to Gelman, who examined 2005 official Pentagon data, the US is thought to own a total of *737* bases in foreign lands. Adding to the bases inside U.S. territory, the total land area occupied by US military bases domestically within the US and internationally is of the order of *2,202,735 hectares*, which makes the *Pentagon* one of the largest landowners worldwide!

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-worldwide-network-of-us-military-bases/5564

    I wonder why we are $20T in debt. Give me some time to dig into this a bit more, right now it’s kind of hard to understand. Our military obviously is underfunded, that’s for sure, bases in *only* 63 countries? Only 737 bases? There are “bad guys” in a lot more places than that. Let’s not think about the costs, this is the Warren Tear and no expense can be spared.

    ‘murica

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  145. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Shows just how powerful the war party, military-industrial complex, Israeli lobby really is. Throw in the ‘deep state’ and you have a recipe for endless trouble.

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  146. joe webb says:

    Fw: a thread on The Occidental Observer. On how much Christianity has been harmed by jews; Christ and apostles as jewish outliers, capable of less tribalistic feeling/thinking, & our Pelopponesian Wars

    To: Joe Webb
    Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 1:31 PM
    Subject: a thread on The Occidental Observer. On how much Christianity has been harmed by jews; Chirst and apostles as jewish outliers, capable of less tribalistic feeling/thinking, & our Pelopponesian Wars

    start at the bottom. http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2017/04/non-white-migrants-and-the-catholic-church-the-politics-of-penitence/#more-151906

    April 30, 2017 – 1:20 pm | Permalink
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    impressionistic thinking here , but….the Pelopponesian wars lasted about as long as our two world wars…25 plus years.
    The collapse of Greece followed. Our two world wars, at least in Europe, can be seen as very similar. In both cases, the turn to dreamy ideas of Mankind, Internationalism,Humanity, and of course now the Mother of All Crazy Ideas, racial equality, has been the result of WW2. Stoicism on the march.
    Stoicism dreamed up the equality ideas then, and the corollaries therefrom, universal world citizenship, etc.
    The general racialist character of the White West, always present despite lots of Hellenistic Bad Ideas, was delivered a powerful Stoicism in our time, by our Pelopponesian wars: The Solution to our problems is Equality in all respects.
    So, while the basics of equality, race equality, etc. were laid down by Greeks 300 BC, we survived it and just did what comes naturally…in this case, racialism.
    The racialism of World War Two, particularly the German type, was to be picked up by the Dreamers , liberals and leftists, as the Next Big Thang with which to attack the West. The Jews piled on, never to miss an opportunity, and wrote almost all the books on race equality and its corollary, Whites Bad, somehow evading the racialism of Jews and Israel. (The main reason this sleight-of-mind caper by jews has been successful, is that jews are the prodigal sons particularly of Protestants, God’s chosen etc. They thus get a special dispensation)
    So, Christianity has had a love-hate relationship with the jews. Meanwhile, our self-flagellation , with jews handing us the whips, continues.
    Greece, fundamentally racialist in spades, nevertheless continues to set the standard for anybody capable of Thought.
    Can one continue the historical thread and remark the history of Alexander’s Empire of Greek civilization, Rome, etc?
    When the Roman West collapsed, there were more Greeks (Germans) there to save Europe. Today, the Germans( us )are doped up real bad on Stoic ideas.
    It is starting to change but…this is it. Now or never..
    Joe Webb

    April 30, 2017 – 11:03 am | Permalink
    somewhere in the TOQ journals is a piece by a Trask on the Turn-the-other cheek. I have also seen it claimed similarly elsewhere…that the NT was written in ancient Greek and that the Greek had two words for “enemy”….one was private enemy as in family and friends, and the other was the pubic enemy.
    The other cheek turned…was to your intimates…private sphere. The public enemy was to be checked by violence if need be, presumably.
    I have also read that the Latin had a third word for ‘enemy’, and that was your “rival”…neither other cheeked, nor killed, but simply dealt with in civil terms.
    So, this is important. Christian armies seem to have understood matters correctly. Joe Webb

    April 30, 2017 – 10:49 am | Permalink
    trying to get the wiki article on the Maccabees…did not work on my first post. here goes again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees
    There …Joe Webb

    April 30, 2017 – 10:40 am | On Tom Sunic’s article and the quote by Tom Sunic ….

    “…considering the fact that Christianity also originated among the same gene pool, i.e. the Levantine, Semitic, Middle Eastern populace —and not in the forests and mountains of Europe.”

    Tom, agree with most of your analysis,but there are always outliers. In this case, and claiming no expertise in regard to the religious times @ of Christ, and of agnostic “belief” myself, the historical facts of Hellenism which was in some large part a result of the failure of the Polis system (Pelopponesian Wars aftermath, etc.) , include the dramatic reversals of Thought in the Stoics, who invented Universalism, Humanity, and much of the claptrap that we have with us today.

    This was White Man genes talking, one part of us anyway. OK. Outliers are always around, and I suggest that Christ and his jewish disciples were outliers amongst the Jews, just as there are outliers today amongst various racial groups, who do not fit the general character of their group.
    The ideas of Hellenism took hold in some large way in enough of the ancient jews to trigger civil war. It was “Greek” and indeed “Jew” in cultural terms amongst the Jews. Culture war leading to real war. Just like now.
    Joe Webb

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  147. joe webb says:
    @englishmike
    You say “Islamophobia” like it’s a bad thing.

    You both say "Islamophobia" like it's a thing.

    Compare Bobzilla...

    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

    I note that Rurik also uses "Islamophobic" as if it means something, Does he also believe that "anti-semitism" is a thing?

    Anti-racism as an ideology, or Counter-Myth, (The Myth of Race Equality), seems to have gotten started with the immigration debates of early 20th century in the US. The assault on normal White standards of racial hygiene, or race realism, was begun by the folks trying to beat their way into the US. That would be the Jews.

    Franz Boas started it and the rest is history. There is an article in this, or more. Of course, the whole campaign got-up steam after Hitler and Jewish propaganda and Jewish pseudo-social science. For those who want to read up on the intellectual times in this regard, Carl Degler’s In Search of Human Nature is good, not perfect.

    But it is a kind of intellectual history of Darwinism in this regard in the US anyway. It never was completely stamped out by our enemies, jew and liberal, and rose again with socio-biology and now HBD, etc.

    I guess that this book is indispensable for historical reasons.

    Joe Webb

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  148. joe webb says:
    @annamaria
    More in the White Helmets and Le Mesurier in particular.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-syria-civil-defence-exposes-natos-white-helmets-as-terrorist-linked-imposters/5547528

    "White Helmets founder Le Mesurier, who graduated from Britain’s elite Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, is said to be an ‘ex’ British military intelligence officer involved in a number of other NATO ‘humanitarian intervention’ theatres of war, including Bosnia, Kosovo and Iraq, as well as postings in Lebanon and Palestine ... With over $60 million in their back pocket courtesy of USAID, the UK Foreign Office and various EU nations like the Netherlands, this group is possibly one of the most feted and funded entities within the west’s anti-Syrian NGO complex....
    They claim they are not “tied to any political group in Syria, or anywhere else”, yet they are embedded with Al Nusra Front, ISIS and affiliated with the majority of US allied terrorist brigades infesting Syria. ... The majority [of Syrians] had never heard of them, others who follow western media noted that they are a “NATO construct being used to infiltrate Syria as a major player in the terrorist support network."

    and thanks Annamarie. The Trump may be another god that failed, but he at least is going after the illegals. I apologized to the ARabs, etc. for their sacrifice…that the Jews Must Live position of Protestantism and largely also now Catholic lunacy as well….cannot be escaped in US politics.

    That a huge part of the present muslim revolt is due to the Jews is clear. Would there have been another Muslim assault on Europe today without Israel and US True Belief in the Jews?

    I doubt it. However, it is here in Europe as well as in the US and must be stopped. Period.

    It is our land and anyone challenging it must be, ahem , killed or driven out. It is that simple.

    Arabs and Muslims in the European North should go home and urge their brothers and sisters to do the same. Otherwise, it will be war and with 50 million Muzzies in Europe, it will be a catastrophe for arabs especially.

    The only way to deal with terrorists is to kill their families and friends if they terrorize us. That is the terrible logic of it. Hostage taking is as old as mankind. Hostages can be preserved if the peace is kept, and if war starts, they are sacrificed.

    Then the ships start sailing south, with tens of thousands of arabs, etc. on board. Any resistance will be met with extreme killing. The Mediterranean will have to be monitored to see how many bodies it can accommodate.

    You want the Truth? This is the truth. Sentimentality will soon be over.

    Joe Webb

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  149. @joe webb
    Fw: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.
    People
    joe webb Today at 11:12 PM
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    Subject: One America News tonight ran a special on the Khan Shaykhun April 4, 2017 gas/chemical attack. The show questions the Official Trump Story, very strongly.

    It includes the material that Theodore Postel wrote up at The Unz Review a couple weeks ago. The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)


    The Nerve Agent Attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria (w/ Addenda)
    A Quick Turnaround Assessment of the White House Intelligence Report Issued on April 11, 2017
    I

    The reporter's name, I think, was something like Peterson Sharp. This is an amazing news story that certainly would not get aired by Fox News. It includes a lot of video of Trump's earlier statements of not getting into Syria, etc. and his recent flip Words on getting Into War (for The Jews..my words) in Syria.

    It also has Tillerson flipping. ( We have always been at war with Oceania, remember....? down the memory hole, except that now we got TV show records that are so far, apparently stored in the Library of Congress as well as lots of other places.

    The point generally in the show is that, 1. Assad would have to have been crazy to do it (what the US charges} what with his successes in the war, and the need to use gas, if he has/had any after all, somewhere else in a real battle with Isis going on at the same time as Khan Shaykhun. 2. That Isis has a long history of using poison gas in Syria and Iraq. And, that per the various interviews with Syrians, that Assad comes off looking the best of the lot. 3. And finally, that the Whtie Helmets are probably Isis . This is where I tuned in, so I don't know what else the show said in its beginning.

    OAN is great. It is conservative, probably more so than Fox News. It also has the most beautiful skin job in Liz Walker, and probably the brightest gal on TV News. What a show ...put her together with Tucker Carlson.

    My gawd! What's next? A program on the jew neocons? Trump as hijacked/blackmailed by the jews and Liberals?

    OAN ...One America News. Is Trump a stooge for the Jews? Have we been jewconned? And Adelson, was it ? who contributed a hundred ? million to Trump?

    Joe Webb

    Liz Walker or Liz Wheeler? Liz Walker is black and possibly not your type.

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    yeah thanks Liz Wheeler. Purrfection. except for her jewlove.JW
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  150. Bill says:
    @Wizard of Oz
    Why would Trump say that he thought Xi liked him? Is he subtle enough under all his windy bluster to think it worth making Xi wonder if he is an artless simpleton - or is he indeed a simpleton who might even believe that Xi likes him and that it matters?

    Or perhaps Trump’s intended audience is artless simpletons.

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    Indeed, Possible if the probability of deliberation exceeds the probability of randomnesd.
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  151. @Bill
    Or perhaps Trump's intended audience is artless simpletons.

    Indeed, Possible if the probability of deliberation exceeds the probability of randomnesd.

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  152. joe webb says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Liz Walker or Liz Wheeler? Liz Walker is black and possibly not your type.

    yeah thanks Liz Wheeler. Purrfection. except for her jewlove.JW

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    Yeah that girl Liz Wheeler on OAN is hot but her Jew fawning is a big turn off.
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  153. Rurik says:
    @englishmike
    You say “Islamophobia” like it’s a bad thing.

    You both say "Islamophobia" like it's a thing.

    Compare Bobzilla...

    There is no such thing as racism. Race is a biological reality; racism, as you are intending it, is a social construct used for political / social warfare against Whites.

    I note that Rurik also uses "Islamophobic" as if it means something, Does he also believe that "anti-semitism" is a thing?

    I note that Rurik also uses “Islamophobic” as if it means something, Does he also believe that “anti-semitism” is a thing?

    hello EnglishMike,

    I was perusing the comments and came across this..

    Islamophobia, (an irrational fear and loathing of Islam) is definitely ‘a thing’. It exists where people generally are being propagandized into fearing Islam and Muslims for things that are not true.

    For instance, by now most thoughtful people (with an independently functioning mind) know that our government and media lied about 9//11 at the very least, or at worst, was a false flag attack/crime to augment the Eternal War (for Israel) on ‘terror’.

    But for many, many tens of millions of Americans and others the world over, this crime was committed by psychotic Muslim lunatics who hate America because we’re too free. So for all those pitifully deluded American sheep, they suffer a phobia against Muslims for being murderous assholes willing to martyr themselves because Americans fornicate and vote and therefor must die a thousand deaths.

    If you were to believe that Muslims are willing to kill themselves in balls of fire because Americans fornicate and vote, then you could aptly be described as Islamophobic.

    Similarly, in line with your query… there certainly is such a thing as anti-Semitism. Or an antipathy for Jews simply because they’re Jews. A Palestinian, for instance, may object when he hears that his daughter has decided to marry an Israeli Jew, simply because the young man is Jewish, regardless of what happens to be his character as a human being. Perhaps he might be forgiven such bigotry under the circumstances, but an irrational and blanket condemnation of a people because of their religion or ethnicity is a sad reality, and many, many people suffer both sides of such prejudices.

    All people are individuals, and should be judged according to their individual characters, not based on the group that they happen to have been born into.

    But that works better from the air conditioned comfort of a man’s study with a full stomach and a full heart. Not so much when your tribe is being brutally savaged by the members of another tribe, when civility and the luxury of taking every man and woman as an individual breaks down under an assault. So as with all things, this too is relative.

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  154. RodW says:
    @reiner Tor
    I had heard before that US generals threatened to resign en masse under Dubya if Dubya was to attack Iran. Is it true? I'm starting to doubt that. More recently I read stories about how hawkish many generals are. So it seems generals are fools with a hammer who mistake anything that sticks out for a nail.

    No it wasn’t en masse. Admiral Fallon notably said that no Iran war would take place on his watch, and there were a couple of other high ranks who made dissenting noises.

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  155. joe webb says:

    Fw: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election ( “civil war” on the lips of arabs )

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    “The second round is a catastrophe,” said Cheker Messaoudi, 29, a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage. “I think with Macron we are facing a war on the economy and with Le Pen we are facing a civil war, so it is bad both ways.”

    I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.—-

    Civil war will kill millions of rag-heads and at least hundreds of thousands of whites in Europe with its @ 50 million arabs and assorted muds.

    Bomb the banlieus…you can be sure the military is figuring out how to do it. World War two will look more like what we used to call a “police action” in Korea ca. 1950. The convoys of hundreds of ships loaded with arabs heading South. Any resistance on board… and summary execution…over the side mon ami. You will be lucky if you are dead before you hit the water.

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    Subject: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election

    In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election
    BY ALISSA J. RUBIN AND LILIA BLAISE

    The number of disillusioned voters who abstain could determine if the far-right candidate, Marine Le Pen, upends expectations in the presidential runoff.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2pkRlfA

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    "I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.—-"

    I guess your super high IQ prevents you from seeing wars, both civil and the other kind, are inextricably linked to economic hardship.

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?

    , @NoseytheDuke
    "World War two will look more like what we used to call a “police action” in Korea ca. 1950".

    Did you mean to write World War Three?
    , @anon
    "..a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage.."

    Or in other words, an Arab living in France and not a "Frenchman" at all!
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    Fw: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election ( "civil war" on the lips of arabs )




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    “The second round is a catastrophe,” said Cheker Messaoudi, 29, a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage. “I think with Macron we are facing a war on the economy and with Le Pen we are facing a civil war, so it is bad both ways.”



    I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.----

    Civil war will kill millions of rag-heads and at least hundreds of thousands of whites in Europe with its @ 50 million arabs and assorted muds.

    Bomb the banlieus...you can be sure the military is figuring out how to do it. World War two will look more like what we used to call a "police action" in Korea ca. 1950. The convoys of hundreds of ships loaded with arabs heading South. Any resistance on board... and summary execution...over the side mon ami. You will be lucky if you are dead before you hit the water.

    Joe Webb



    Subject: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election



    In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election
    BY ALISSA J. RUBIN AND LILIA BLAISE

    The number of disillusioned voters who abstain could determine if the far-right candidate, Marine Le Pen, upends expectations in the presidential runoff.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2pkRlfA

    “I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.—-”

    I guess your super high IQ prevents you from seeing wars, both civil and the other kind, are inextricably linked to economic hardship.

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?

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    Hey Bro,

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?
     
    Dude - it's JW? As I've said before, nobody looks forward for race war like my kids look for milk and cookies.

    Old JW is an acquired taste - long may he post!!!

    Peace.

    *Bonus: Race WAAAAAR!!!
    , @joe webb
    pretty simplistic to see it that way. Most folks have economic hardship now and historically. That does not make for war. The Human Condition makes for war.1, Territory, defended or aggressed upon. 2. ambition/aggression which is universal. 3. opportunity ....they can because they can.
    4. naked Do-Gooding...like the US bringing democracy to the gophers, alligators, Arabs, Jews, you name it. 5. Religion...like right now the Arab stupidity going to the mix of radical Islam. This part of the Do-Gooding already remarked.

    One could go on. If you want Peace, then everybody stays put. No immigration. That is fundamental nowadays. No aggressive war....an international body could enforce it once everybody agrees to stay home.

    Also, once everybody realizes the HBD character of homo sapiens, REALISTIC policies can be pursued rather than Utopian policies.

    I live with myself very pleasantly now that I have disabused myself of leftish and childish views of human perfectibility, etc. Actually, at least as far as whites go, we are just fine. It is all the other races that are so involved as to make relative peace almost impossible. Take the Jews...please.

    Then the Arabs have never lived in peace with one another. Or the Africans...total chaos. 85 IQ and 79 IQ respectively. Zero chance of rationality. Meaning that rationality recognizes our limitations, tendencies, of the negative type, and does somethings about it. Self-
    Restraint being the biggest factor.

    Don't forget the chinks....never invented free speech, citizenship, voting, etc. no other race has invented it either.

    Whites invented it 2500 years ago and never will the other races even adopt or sustain it. Ergo, more war for you...think soup-nazi per Seinfeld.

    I don't welcome war, I try to prevent it. World Peace per my above instructions. Everybody stays home. Arabs go Home, Cannibals go home, Aztecs, go home. Otherwise, Whites will ...are...running out of patience. Yes we kill. DAmn straight. Killing Enemies is the Very First Thing for all Humans.

    The Palestinians in 1948 were killing one-another instead of killing jews. No peace for you. No land for you. Keep on killing Whites who mistakenly thru Protestantism, have a very strange love for Jews....and you will be killed in massive numbers. I cannot change my fellow Whites' religious warts.

    Joe Webb
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  157. Talha says:
    @Anon
    "I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.—-"

    I guess your super high IQ prevents you from seeing wars, both civil and the other kind, are inextricably linked to economic hardship.

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?

    Hey Bro,

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?

    Dude – it’s JW? As I’ve said before, nobody looks forward for race war like my kids look for milk and cookies.

    Old JW is an acquired taste – long may he post!!!

    Peace.

    *Bonus: Race WAAAAAR!!!

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    Yeah reading his emissions requires a certain suspension of objective reality, which is I suppose his real motive.

    I wonder if he ever considers how pathetic a figure he cuts unloading this drivel which never finds the room at NYtimes, but shamelessly sent here simply because Unz is tolerant to a fault, of any speech, even the least meaningful kind?
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  158. Anon says: • Disclaimer
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    Hey Bro,

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?
     
    Dude - it's JW? As I've said before, nobody looks forward for race war like my kids look for milk and cookies.

    Old JW is an acquired taste - long may he post!!!

    Peace.

    *Bonus: Race WAAAAAR!!!

    Yeah reading his emissions requires a certain suspension of objective reality, which is I suppose his real motive.

    I wonder if he ever considers how pathetic a figure he cuts unloading this drivel which never finds the room at NYtimes, but shamelessly sent here simply because Unz is tolerant to a fault, of any speech, even the least meaningful kind?

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    his emissions
     
    Nocturnal???

    https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder619/600x600/11976619/dr-evil-little-finger.jpg

    Peace.
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  159. Talha says:
    @Anon
    Yeah reading his emissions requires a certain suspension of objective reality, which is I suppose his real motive.

    I wonder if he ever considers how pathetic a figure he cuts unloading this drivel which never finds the room at NYtimes, but shamelessly sent here simply because Unz is tolerant to a fault, of any speech, even the least meaningful kind?

    his emissions

    Nocturnal???

    Peace.

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  160. @joe webb
    Fw: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election ( "civil war" on the lips of arabs )




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    “The second round is a catastrophe,” said Cheker Messaoudi, 29, a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage. “I think with Macron we are facing a war on the economy and with Le Pen we are facing a civil war, so it is bad both ways.”



    I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.----

    Civil war will kill millions of rag-heads and at least hundreds of thousands of whites in Europe with its @ 50 million arabs and assorted muds.

    Bomb the banlieus...you can be sure the military is figuring out how to do it. World War two will look more like what we used to call a "police action" in Korea ca. 1950. The convoys of hundreds of ships loaded with arabs heading South. Any resistance on board... and summary execution...over the side mon ami. You will be lucky if you are dead before you hit the water.

    Joe Webb



    Subject: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election



    In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election
    BY ALISSA J. RUBIN AND LILIA BLAISE

    The number of disillusioned voters who abstain could determine if the far-right candidate, Marine Le Pen, upends expectations in the presidential runoff.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2pkRlfA

    “World War two will look more like what we used to call a “police action” in Korea ca. 1950″.

    Did you mean to write World War Three?

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    Hey NtD,

    I think he meant: Race WAAAR I

    Peace.
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  161. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    "World War two will look more like what we used to call a “police action” in Korea ca. 1950".

    Did you mean to write World War Three?

    Hey NtD,

    I think he meant: Race WAAAR I

    Peace.

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  162. Sam McGowan says: • Website

    The problem with generals is that they are politicians. Anyone who has been in the US military knows that anyone who rises above the rank of colonel has their nose up somebody’s ass. Whsty also concerns me is that many of these generals are Marines, members of a service the United States neither needs or can afford. The Marine Corps is a holdover from when the Navy fought sailing ships and used Marine sharpshooters to wipe the decks of the opposing ship. They played no role at all in the massive war in Europe but managed to stay in the public eyes by invading islands in the Pacific no one had ever heard of. Marines are fighters because they know they’re not needed but if they can stay in the limelight, they can continue to exist – at taxpayer’s expense.

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  163. joe webb says:
    @Anon
    "I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.—-"

    I guess your super high IQ prevents you from seeing wars, both civil and the other kind, are inextricably linked to economic hardship.

    How do you live with yourself, salivating at the prospect of death and destruction?

    pretty simplistic to see it that way. Most folks have economic hardship now and historically. That does not make for war. The Human Condition makes for war.1, Territory, defended or aggressed upon. 2. ambition/aggression which is universal. 3. opportunity ….they can because they can.
    4. naked Do-Gooding…like the US bringing democracy to the gophers, alligators, Arabs, Jews, you name it. 5. Religion…like right now the Arab stupidity going to the mix of radical Islam. This part of the Do-Gooding already remarked.

    One could go on. If you want Peace, then everybody stays put. No immigration. That is fundamental nowadays. No aggressive war….an international body could enforce it once everybody agrees to stay home.

    Also, once everybody realizes the HBD character of homo sapiens, REALISTIC policies can be pursued rather than Utopian policies.

    I live with myself very pleasantly now that I have disabused myself of leftish and childish views of human perfectibility, etc. Actually, at least as far as whites go, we are just fine. It is all the other races that are so involved as to make relative peace almost impossible. Take the Jews…please.

    Then the Arabs have never lived in peace with one another. Or the Africans…total chaos. 85 IQ and 79 IQ respectively. Zero chance of rationality. Meaning that rationality recognizes our limitations, tendencies, of the negative type, and does somethings about it. Self-
    Restraint being the biggest factor.

    Don’t forget the chinks….never invented free speech, citizenship, voting, etc. no other race has invented it either.

    Whites invented it 2500 years ago and never will the other races even adopt or sustain it. Ergo, more war for you…think soup-nazi per Seinfeld.

    I don’t welcome war, I try to prevent it. World Peace per my above instructions. Everybody stays home. Arabs go Home, Cannibals go home, Aztecs, go home. Otherwise, Whites will …are…running out of patience. Yes we kill. DAmn straight. Killing Enemies is the Very First Thing for all Humans.

    The Palestinians in 1948 were killing one-another instead of killing jews. No peace for you. No land for you. Keep on killing Whites who mistakenly thru Protestantism, have a very strange love for Jews….and you will be killed in massive numbers. I cannot change my fellow Whites’ religious warts.

    Joe Webb

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    It is certainly true that Arabs have always been at war with someone or another (often themselves).
    The great genius of the "prophet" was organizing this violent nature into a cohesive force and then providing it with "legitimacy" with his fairy-tale 'religion'.
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  164. joe webb says:

    error above African IQ average is 70, not 79. The West draws the line of mental retardation, or whatever the current euphemism is ….at 70.

    Witch doctors, etc. the chinks at 100 plus, still believe in magic and luck, etc.

    Whites used to believe in Fate, which is a far more reasonable position. Fate is cognate with genetic determinism.

    There are biological limits…sometning the Left and liberals deny….like their absurd Equality beliefs, especially racial equality. This is witch doctor territory for Whites, now, that Globalism demands it.

    Wanna Succeed? Rave along with the others, or Others.

    I’m just as good as you!! Uh, no you are not.

    By the way I do not claim some super highIQ, but I do recognize that I have brains and spirit enough to do what I do. I am ripe, and it feels good.

    Peace thru Separation. Good fences make good neighbors. It is completely normal to fight with your neighbors…so, fences and rationality make sense.

    Joe Webb

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  165. Z-man says:
    @joe webb
    yeah thanks Liz Wheeler. Purrfection. except for her jewlove.JW

    Yeah that girl Liz Wheeler on OAN is hot but her Jew fawning is a big turn off.

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    right. mebbe when she grows up. I sure would like to help her do so. might not turn me off. I am willing to chance it. Seriously though, she is brilliant. White girl think a lot.

    To the anon child here. Try taking a look at Enoch Powell's famous Rivers of Blood speech ca. 1967. Then there is Camp of the Saints by Raspail back in about 1971. These guys saw it coming.

    The only character in Camp willing to shoot, was an Indian who Knew what was coming. Look at Darwin's Descent...and his story about the natives of Terra de Fuego...pretty sobering for any noble savage Peter Pan enthusiast.

    Growing Up is hard to do in New Age Liberal Click America...of Luv Your Enemy.

    Take Pelican Bay prison in northern California, worst of the worst held there. my favorite killing technique of the cons is to sneak up from behind, place a pencil or pen in the ear of your victim and then slam it with the palm of your hand into his head.

    I recommend taking every con at Pelican Bay and shooting them in the head. one bullet for darkies and beaners, and two bullets for whites...to make sure...clean up the gene-pool just in case they ever break out.

    Anon...I would guess you do not know the first thing about firearms...first thing is to buy one.
    Then get a revolver, a .357 is best. nothing to remember. and you can shoot .38 out of it too, to plink and get familiar/comfortable.



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  166. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @RodW
    No it wasn't en masse. Admiral Fallon notably said that no Iran war would take place on his watch, and there were a couple of other high ranks who made dissenting noises.

    Thanks.

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  167. joe webb says:
    @Z-man
    Yeah that girl Liz Wheeler on OAN is hot but her Jew fawning is a big turn off.

    right. mebbe when she grows up. I sure would like to help her do so. might not turn me off. I am willing to chance it. Seriously though, she is brilliant. White girl think a lot.

    To the anon child here. Try taking a look at Enoch Powell’s famous Rivers of Blood speech ca. 1967. Then there is Camp of the Saints by Raspail back in about 1971. These guys saw it coming.

    The only character in Camp willing to shoot, was an Indian who Knew what was coming. Look at Darwin’s Descent…and his story about the natives of Terra de Fuego…pretty sobering for any noble savage Peter Pan enthusiast.

    Growing Up is hard to do in New Age Liberal Click America…of Luv Your Enemy.

    Take Pelican Bay prison in northern California, worst of the worst held there. my favorite killing technique of the cons is to sneak up from behind, place a pencil or pen in the ear of your victim and then slam it with the palm of your hand into his head.

    I recommend taking every con at Pelican Bay and shooting them in the head. one bullet for darkies and beaners, and two bullets for whites…to make sure…clean up the gene-pool just in case they ever break out.

    Anon…I would guess you do not know the first thing about firearms…first thing is to buy one.
    Then get a revolver, a .357 is best. nothing to remember. and you can shoot .38 out of it too, to plink and get familiar/comfortable.

    Joe Webb

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  168. joe webb says:

    w: NYTimes.com: The European Crisis ( “the refusal to stare actual failure in its face” ) Today May 5, 2017 Dothan, the jewyorktimes’ house conservative, has at least one testacle, compared to the rest of the children of paradise. Ladies are of course excused for biological reasons.

    Think Robert Putnam’s, Diversity and Community in the 21st century….social trust broken by race enmity.

    “….Guilluy speaks of a ‘battle of the eyes’ fought in the lobbies of apartment buildings across France every day, in which one person or the other — the ethnic Frenchman or the immigrant’s son — will drop his gaze to the floor first.”)

    Isn’t this nice? Have a nice day. Roil your brain and kick the cat when you get into your apartment.

    When civil war starts, blame the messenger, Anon…puer/boy child.

    Joe Webb

    Sent by webfoote41@yahoo.com:

    OP-ED COLUMNIST
    The European Crisis
    BY ROSS DOUTHAT

    Why the Continent’s populists have stronger grievances than ours.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2pvMBUs
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    To ensur

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  169. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @joe webb
    Fw: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election ( "civil war" on the lips of arabs )




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    Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 10:57 AM
    Subject: Fw: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election ( "civil war" on the lips of arabs )

    “The second round is a catastrophe,” said Cheker Messaoudi, 29, a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage. “I think with Macron we are facing a war on the economy and with Le Pen we are facing a civil war, so it is bad both ways.”



    I guess Arab low IQ accounts for his more or less perceived equivalency of economic bad times and civil war.----

    Civil war will kill millions of rag-heads and at least hundreds of thousands of whites in Europe with its @ 50 million arabs and assorted muds.

    Bomb the banlieus...you can be sure the military is figuring out how to do it. World War two will look more like what we used to call a "police action" in Korea ca. 1950. The convoys of hundreds of ships loaded with arabs heading South. Any resistance on board... and summary execution...over the side mon ami. You will be lucky if you are dead before you hit the water.

    Joe Webb



    Subject: NYTimes.com: In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election



    In France’s Poor Suburbs, Angry Voters May Skip Big Election
    BY ALISSA J. RUBIN AND LILIA BLAISE

    The number of disillusioned voters who abstain could determine if the far-right candidate, Marine Le Pen, upends expectations in the presidential runoff.
    Or, copy and paste this URL into your browser: https://nyti.ms/2pkRlfA

    “..a Frenchman of Tunisian heritage..”

    Or in other words, an Arab living in France and not a “Frenchman” at all!

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  170. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @joe webb
    pretty simplistic to see it that way. Most folks have economic hardship now and historically. That does not make for war. The Human Condition makes for war.1, Territory, defended or aggressed upon. 2. ambition/aggression which is universal. 3. opportunity ....they can because they can.
    4. naked Do-Gooding...like the US bringing democracy to the gophers, alligators, Arabs, Jews, you name it. 5. Religion...like right now the Arab stupidity going to the mix of radical Islam. This part of the Do-Gooding already remarked.

    One could go on. If you want Peace, then everybody stays put. No immigration. That is fundamental nowadays. No aggressive war....an international body could enforce it once everybody agrees to stay home.

    Also, once everybody realizes the HBD character of homo sapiens, REALISTIC policies can be pursued rather than Utopian policies.

    I live with myself very pleasantly now that I have disabused myself of leftish and childish views of human perfectibility, etc. Actually, at least as far as whites go, we are just fine. It is all the other races that are so involved as to make relative peace almost impossible. Take the Jews...please.

    Then the Arabs have never lived in peace with one another. Or the Africans...total chaos. 85 IQ and 79 IQ respectively. Zero chance of rationality. Meaning that rationality recognizes our limitations, tendencies, of the negative type, and does somethings about it. Self-
    Restraint being the biggest factor.

    Don't forget the chinks....never invented free speech, citizenship, voting, etc. no other race has invented it either.

    Whites invented it 2500 years ago and never will the other races even adopt or sustain it. Ergo, more war for you...think soup-nazi per Seinfeld.

    I don't welcome war, I try to prevent it. World Peace per my above instructions. Everybody stays home. Arabs go Home, Cannibals go home, Aztecs, go home. Otherwise, Whites will ...are...running out of patience. Yes we kill. DAmn straight. Killing Enemies is the Very First Thing for all Humans.

    The Palestinians in 1948 were killing one-another instead of killing jews. No peace for you. No land for you. Keep on killing Whites who mistakenly thru Protestantism, have a very strange love for Jews....and you will be killed in massive numbers. I cannot change my fellow Whites' religious warts.

    Joe Webb

    It is certainly true that Arabs have always been at war with someone or another (often themselves).
    The great genius of the “prophet” was organizing this violent nature into a cohesive force and then providing it with “legitimacy” with his fairy-tale ‘religion’.

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  171. Sowhat says:
    @WorkingClass

    The generals, Bibi Netanyahu and the neocons, Congressional hawks with Cold War mindsets, the Saudi royal family and the Gulf Arabs — they are winning the battle for the president’s mind.
     
    Dumb Dubya had Dick Cheney. Dumb Donald has Jared Kushner.

    You defended him Pat. So did I. Turns out Trump is an extremely dangerous piece of shit. Just like Hillary.

    The “Presidency” is a figurehead. Nothing more and, as another poster stated, “If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” A more accurate description would be a puppet. He may have good business sense but he’s definitely not the sharpest pencil in the drawer. He reminds me of Bush, Jr., having difficulty with the English language and sentence structure…. Just a puppet

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