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With never-Trump conservatives bailing on the GOP and crying out for the Party of Pelosi to save us, some painful truths need to be restated.

The Republican Party of Bush I and II, of Bob Dole and John McCain, is history. It’s not coming back. Unlike the Bourbons after the Revolution and the Terror, after Napoleon and the Empire, no restoration is in the cards.

It is over. The GOP’s policies of recent decades — the New World Order of George H.W. Bush, the crusades for democracy of Bush II — failed, and are seen as having failed. With Trump’s capture of the party they were repudiated.

There will be no turning back.

What were the historic blunders?

It was not supporting tax cuts, deregulation, conservative judges and justices, or funding a defense second to none. Donald Trump has delivered on these as well as any president since Reagan.

The failures that killed the Bush party, and that represented departures from Reaganite traditionalism and conservatism, are:

First, the hubristic drive, despite the warnings of statesmen like George Kennan, to exploit our Cold War victory and pursue a policy of permanent containment of a Russia that had lost a third of its territory and half its people.

We moved NATO into Eastern Europe and the Baltic, onto her doorstep. We abrogated the ABM treaty Nixon had negotiated and moved defensive missiles into Poland. John McCain pushed to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, and even to send U.S. forces to face off against Russian troops.

Thus we got a second Cold War that need never have begun and that our allies seem content to let us fight alone.

Europe today is not afraid of Vladimir Putin reaching the Rhine. Europe is afraid of Africa and the Middle East reaching the Danube.

Let the Americans, who relish playing empire, pay for NATO.

Second, in a reflexive response to 9/11, we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, dumped over the regime in Libya, armed rebels to overthrow Bashar Assad in Syria, and backed Saudi intervention in a Yemeni civil war, creating a humanitarian crisis in that poorest of Arab countries that is exceeded in horrors only by the Syrian civil war.

Since Y2K, hundreds of thousands in the Middle East have perished, the ancient Christian community has all but ceased to exist, and the refugees now number in the millions. What are the gains for democracy from these wars, all backed enthusiastically by the Republican establishment?

Why are the people responsible for these wars still being listened to, rather than confessing their sins at second-thoughts conferences?

The GOP elite also played a crucial role in throwing open U.S. markets to China and ceding transnational corporations full freedom to move factories and jobs there and ship their Chinese-made goods back here, free of charge.

Result: In three decades, the U.S. has run up $12 trillion in merchandise trade deficits — $4 trillion with China — and Beijing’s revenue from the USA has more than covered China’s defense budget for most of those years.

ORDER IT NOW

Beijing swept past Italy, France, Britain, Germany and Japan to become the premier manufacturing power on earth and a geo-strategic rival. Now, from East Africa to Sri Lanka in the Indian Ocean, and from the South and East China Sea to Taiwan, Beijing’s expansionist ambitions have become clear.

And where are the Republicans responsible for building up this potentially malevolent power that thieves our technology? Talking of building a Reagan-like Navy to contain the mammoth they nourished.

Since the Cold War, America’s elites have been exhibiting symptoms of that congenital blindness associated since Rome with declining and falling empires.

While GOP grass roots have begged for measures to control our bleeding southern border, they were regularly denounced as nativists by party elites, many of whom are now backing Trump’s wall.

For decades, America’s elites failed to see that the transnational moment of the post-Cold War era was passing and an era of rising nationalism and tribalism was at hand.

“We live in a time,” said U2′s Bono this week, “when institutions as vital to human progress as the United Nations are under attack.”

The institutions Bono referenced — the U.N., EU, NATO — all trace their roots to the 1940s and 1950s, a time that bears little resemblance to the era we have entered, an era marked by a spreading and desperate desire of peoples everywhere to preserve who and what they are.

No, Trump didn’t start the fire.

The world was ablaze with tribalism and was raising up authoritarians to realize nationalist ends — Xi Jinping, Putin, Narendra Modi in India, Erdogan in Turkey, Gen. el-Sissi in Egypt — before he came down that elevator.

And so the elites who were in charge when the fire broke out, and who failed to respond and refused even to recognize it, and who now denounce Trump for how he is coping with it, are unlikely to be called upon again to lead this republic.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Biff says:

    “We live in a time,” said U2′s Bono this week, “when institutions as vital to human progress as the United Nations are under attack.”

    U2 is an institution, and that’s how Bono(little Paul) views the world, and he thinks those institutions that have been ravaging Africa are going to save it.
    He writes good music, but politically he’s dumb as an Ox.

  2. Renoman says:

    Sums it up nicely!

    • Agree: Talha
  3. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Another 80% right, 20% wrong column from Mr. Buchanan.

    He still advocates “funding a defense [sic] second to none.”

    At this point, the post-WWII, ongoing destruction and attempted subjection of MENA and Afghanistan can hardly be rationalized as “a reflexive response to 9/11.” Big War under both Republican and Democratic governance has been at this for a long time, and — despite some of the rhetoric and occasional [in]actions of candidate and now President Trump — still is. Other columnists published here have addressed the importance of Israel to many in Washington — again, including President Trump — as key to all of this. If Mr. Buchanan disagrees, then he should explain why.

    Anyone holding any national office throughout the world resistant to the American Empire is labeled “authoritarian.”

    And there’s always the pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — to remind the people living in Nebraska that they, of course, should root for Uncle Sam.

  4. Here is an article that looks at how much Chinese and American companies invest in each others’ economies:

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/06/two-way-foreign-direct-investing-china.html

    One has to wonder how many jobs would have been created in the United States if those hundreds of billions of dollars had been invested in American factories rather than building manufacturing infrastructure in China.

  5. From being a writer who’s often about 3 decades behind (in his views on “political civility”, let’s call it), we move to a column that’s either ahead of its time (hopefully) or just pretty optimistic. Do you think these never-Trumpers and Neocons will just fade away because they are not wanted? Let me correct that – they are not wanted by patriotic Americans but very much in demand by the big donor elites.

    The Ryans and Ryan replacements and other Conservative, Inc. politiicans of all sorts still share the reins of power with the cntrl-left/Socialist Democrats. We know that because the wars are still on-going, and there is no serious southern border barrier. These people have no interest in stopping the slide of this country into the 3rd world – it is not an unintended consequence of their policies, but more of a feature for them.

    To change the party around, or plain replace it, the President must LEAD, and to lead, one must rely on loyal people that work for him. Those people are not in the House, the Senate, and the Feral Gov’t bureaucracy right now – they are the 150 +/- 25 MILLION deplorable Americans that can remove obstructionist judges, primary-out the establishment-GOP, rally in Washington, FS by the MILLIONS … whatever it takes. It does take a wise leader.

    As for Bono, if he hadn’t skiied, or been skiied, into a tree, I’d listen to Sonny Bono on politics rather than this U-2 fool, who, without the rhythm guitar of The Edge, would be serving up fries chips in some fast-food pub in County Cork.

    • Replies: @David
  6. Oh, I forgot, good column, Mr. Buchanan.

  7. Pat

    They want us dead. They are going for the kill.

    7-9 years ago an advisor to Vladimir Putin told Putin that America had 7-9 years before the break-up of America occurs along demographic fault lines. Looks like this guy right on the money.

    Nonwhite legal immigration must be shut down to 0…followed by the mass deportation of the Chinese…Hindu….Muslim Democratic Party Voting Bloc…..

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @in the middle
  8. @Sally Snyder

    You fool…it wouldn’t make a difference if they did…if these investments are being used to create jobs for Chinese “Americans”….and Hindu “ Americans” within the borders of America………They are the highly RACIALIZED Democratic Party Voting Bloc.

  9. Treasonous US Senator rats in the Republican Party who voted for the Rubio/Obama Illegal Alien Amnesty — Mass Immigration Surge bill(S 744) of 2013 must be removed from the US Senate. A bunch of those disgusting treasonite rats have been removed, but some still remain. They must be removed from power.

    Rancid treasonite scum such as John McCain, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham who voted for the nation-wrecking Rubio/Obama immigration bill(S 744) still remain in the US Senate. They must go.

    That Rubio/Obama immigration bill(S 744) would have doubled or tripled legal immigration and it would have given amnesty to upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders. John Boehner, who was US House Speaker at the time, made sure that the Rubio/Obama immigration bill(S 744) never saw the light of day in the US House. Boehner knew that immigration bill would have started a bloody civil war in the GOP if he brought it up for a vote.

    President Trump would be well advised to do two things to protect the safety, security and sovereignty of the United States:

    1) Trump must call for a moratorium on all legal immigration,

    and

    2) Trump must deport all illegal alien invaders immediately.

  10. President Trump used the America First Buchananite strategy to win the GOP presidential primary in New Hampshire.

    Trump promised to kill the sovereignty-sapping trade deal scams that lowered wages for workers and he promised to put AMERICA FIRST.

    Trump promised to dramatically reduce legal immigration and Trump promised to stop illegal immigration completely.

    Trump promised to end the unnecessary overseas wars that were harming the US military and spilling blood and wasting treasure for no good reason. Trump made it clear that the US will fight, but only when our strategic interests demand it. Trump promised no more unnecessary wars like the Iraq War debacle of George W Bush.

    Mount Up And Ride To The Sound Of The Guns!

    Tweet From 2015:

  11. Rurik says:

    Why are the people responsible for these wars still being listened to,

    Perhaps because they’re Jewish supremacists, and the most powerful institution on the planet, the Federal Reserve Bank, is also owned by fellow Jewish supremacists?

    the era we have entered, an era marked by a spreading and desperate desire of peoples everywhere to preserve who and what they are.

    Exactly!

    RACISTS!!

    And so the elites who were in charge when the fire broke out, and who failed to respond and refused even to recognize it, and who now denounce Trump for how he is coping with it, are unlikely to be called upon again to lead this republic.

    As I’ve mentioned before, they’re only a heartbeat away from returning to power..

    as for Bono, Miley Cyrus said we should keep NATO. Even her eminent father and luminary Billy Ray Cyrus agreed, and said ‘The UN is good, it has good acoustics’.


    the only question at this point, is who is even more astute in geopolitical affairs, Bono or Billy Ray or Miley?

  12. @Charles Pewitt

    Moratorium?….Shut nonwhite legal immigrants down forever!!!

    The moratorium proposal has been a malignant cancer for three decades….hatched in the corporate offices of FAIR….the civic nationalist cucks…..

    Every DC Immigration Reform Organization are cabals of Civic Nationalist Cucks for whom Working Class Native Born White Americans do not exist as a demographic-racial tribe with legitimate demographic-racial interests……..

    Take your immigration moratorium and shove it up Dan Stien’s arse…..

  13. Mr. Anon says:
    @anonymous

    If Mr. Buchanan disagrees, then he should explain why.

    Mr. Buchanan does not disagree. That’s why his columns appear on unz.com, rather than the Wall Street Journal or National Review.

    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
  14. Moratorium?….Shut nonwhite legal immigrants down forever!!!

    The moratorium proposal has been a malignant cancer for three decades….hatched in the corporate offices of FAIR….the civic nationalist cucks…..

    How about an immigration moratorium that lasts a millennium?

    If I were president, I would call for the immediate and instant revocation of citizenship for tens of millions of immigrants and their spawn. I would then deport them immediately.

    How about saying a complete and total shutdown of all legal immigration?

    The use of the word “moratorium” in regards to limiting or reducing immigration is to present a reasonable rhetorical front to suggest a change in direction from open borders to a more measured immigration intake position.

    The answer to mass immigration is mass deportation.

  15. David says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You’re one of the most energetic commenters here. But for christsake can you quit writing cntrl-left? You’ve made the same mistake hundreds of times while the dame key with the label ctrl is under both your palms as you’re typing.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  16. The only problem is that the policies that failed under Bush et al and indeed Obama are being perpetuated under Trump. That is, Bolton is in charge of foreign affairs, more stimulus tax cuts are delivered and promised, monetary policy (negative real interest rates) which resulted in the trade deficit and the hollowing out of the tradeable goods sector continue. It’s strangely as if there is a core of policies that benefit the same sets of people which never change no matter what happens in elections.

    Business as usual, under a different trade name.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  17. Never Trumpers are simply good Judeo-Christians who believe that all souls are equal before the Almighty Jewgod.

    • Galatians 3:28 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
    • Leviticus 19:33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”
    • Acts 10:34-35 “So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.”
    • Acts 17:26 “He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth.” (origin of the liberal creationist We All Bleed Red canard.)

    JudeoChristians traditionally recruit blacks (Acts 8:26-40) and elevate them to positions of leadership.

    [MORE]

    • Acts 13:1 KJV “Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Nigger.” (it doesn’t matter if you make a long or short vowel sound, or a double-hard or single-soft consonant sound, the Latin term “Niger” simply means dark/black, and the early JudeoChristian church quickly elevated them to leadership roles.)

    To be racist like Trump, who correctly and scientifically identified a sheboon as “low-IQ” is to be anti-Christian.

    As we know from the Jew Testament, JudeoChristians don’t accept, but vehemently reject, the natural world in favor of magical thinking.

    • 1 Corinthians 2:14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit
    • Colossians 3:5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature
    • Galatians 5:17 For the cravings of the lower nature are opposed to those of the Spirit
    • Galatians 6:8 lower nature
    • Ephesians 4:22 your original evil nature
    • James 3:15 That is not the wisdom which comes down from above: it belongs to earth, to the unspiritual nature
    • 1 John 2:16 For the things in the world–the cravings of the earthly nature, the cravings of the eyes, the show and pride of life–they all come, not from the Father, but from the world.
    • Jude 1:10 mere nature

    The anti-science, anti-nature, JudeoChristian Never Trumpers still might come back. Degeneracy and perversion like the Jewish Rabbi Jesus promoted has never been more popular than today. But we can always hope Trump prevails against the anti-nature teachings of the Jew Testament.

  18. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Another faggy haircut by…LawnBoy Mowers!

    Worse yet is all these 45-60 year old males with their new Spiked Upwards haircuts eh…Many add the shaved head sides with a patch of spiky hairs up top…Is it supposed to be they are somehow trying to look younger? Or Look more akin to stupid white youth with punker rocker Doo’s?

    Maybe worst of all is idiotic guilted whitey youth males, copy catting African dread locks which look much more like long pieces of dog crap feces hung from top of heads. Perhaps their lifelong Marxist lefty school brain washings has convinced them fools, that wearing a typical savage cannibal hair style somehow will atone for that whitey guilt, and endear those idiot white boys to the African negroes and all will be swell again?

    And should that fail?…The idiot guilted whitey boy youth can just copy cat their white female counter parts, and become typical Mud Skark Coal Burners.

    Are these who we are supposed to pass the baton and torch of america to, after we get finished re-taking back america from lefty jew marxists, african savages, and all other assorted bad for america types?…..If so, I give em all 6-months tops before they wreck it all even worse than prior to a real fix was.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  19. It’s simple. The GOP – the conservative party – failed to conserve anything. What’s more, they adamantly refused and continue to refuse to even acknowledge what should be conserved: a United States based ethnically and culturally on Christian Europe.

    The United States was once a European, Christian country. The GOP did nothing to conserve that. They refused to fight against the invasion by non-Europeans. They refused to stand up for Christian values. (You don’t have to be a bible thumper to understand the need for Christian values in a society. Personally, I don’t attend church, but I understand how its morals and values underpin society and I raise my children to respect God and their people.)

    The GOP was hijacked by big business and Jewish interests who turned it into the globalist party of cheap labor and never-ending war in the Middle East. The old GOP is dead because it doesn’t have a constituency.

    It doesn’t stand for European Americans. It doesn’t stand for Christian values.

    Its constituency is military personnel who want to ride that gravy train to retirement, Jews and corporate CEOs. Blacks don’t need the GOP. Hispanics don’t need the GOP. Non-rich whites don’t need the GOP. Women don’t need the GOP.

    It’s a pointless party that was milking patriotism to get votes. It could last only as long as it’s leaders could keep anyone from offering another option. Trump did that. Now, we want more.

    I’ll never vote for an old-line GOP candidate again. I’d rather vote Democratic to speed up the coming train wreck.

  20. @Mr. Anon

    Buchanan would do us all a favor if just once before he departs this vale of tears he would plainly state his views on Jews and on Israel. We all know how he was painted as an antisemite when he ran for president and when he published his books on the origins of World War 2 and on the decline of the West. Lots of people who write columns and comments for this site blame the Jews and Israel for all sorts of things. Buchanan occasionally says or writes things that lead them to think he’s on their side, but he never really lays out his views clearly and completely. It would be a shame if he were to go to his grave still hiding in tactical ambiguity.

  21. @Biff

    He writes good music, but politically he’s dumb as an Ox.

    U-2 had several good songs–the rest is a contrived crap, both musically and poetically.

  22. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “Jewish interests” is rather difficult to separate from Jew Testament Christianity.

    • John 4:22 “Salvation is from the Jews.”
    • Acts 3:25 “He said to Abraham, ‘Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.’”
    • Romans 1:16 “The Jew first.”
    • Romans 9:4 “The people of Israel, chosen.”
    • Romans 15:27 “For if the Gentiles have shared in the Jews’ spiritual blessings, they owe it to the Jews to share with them their material blessings.”

    I don’t think you could better summarize of America’s hijacked foreign policy. Have you ever considered that Jew Testament Christianity might be part of the problem? As the Jew Testament admits in Galatians 5:9 and 1 Corinthians 5:6, a little Jewish leaven spreads through the whole batch of dough.

    America done got fermented! All because, like Esau, our nation has sold its birthright to Jacob the Deciever for a mess of pottage, a childish afterlife narrative to assuage Americans’ mortality salience.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  23. The Never Trumpers aren’t folding up their tents, they’re not leaving town, and they’re not throwing in the towel. They’re as determined as ever. Just turn on your TV. Hear what they say. They’re all over the place and they’re still mad as hell. Their hatred is palpable and it is self-righteous. Most are ‘liberals’ but many are neocons. Right now they are still maneuvering Trump for either the economic destruction of Iran, or the destabilization of that ancient culture.

    These perennial malcontents still dominate our media. And they own our streets. If you organize a pro-Trump rally in most American cities, their foot soldiers will openly jeer you and perhaps even attack you.

    The Trump-haters still own/dominate US mass media. They still hold important government posts inside the beltway and throughout Washington. Many are activist billionaires with deep ties to supremacist Israel. Countless others are Antifa thugs. They are a living, breathing fifth column inside our civilization. And they are still doing everything in their power to keep the flow of future Democrats (from outside our borders) pouring into America. This ongoing demographic transformation is key to their rising power.

    Pat is dreaming. The war has just begun.

    • Replies: @Zach
  24. @David

    Per your correction, I have changed the topic key to Ctrl-Left on my blog. I have not yet cntrl-F’d and cntrl-R’d all the incidences of this mistake, because I’d better be sure I can do it right first. (crap I did it again, TWICE! ;-}).

    You’ve got to understand that the keys are mostly worn out enough to be unreadable, and for the life of me, I’ve not yet found the “dame” key. What do it do?

    Thanks, David.

    • LOL: TTSSYF
  25. Democrats and Republicans ruined the country. None of them are coming back. In post imperial America nobody will admit to ever having been a Democrat or a Republican.

  26. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “It’s simple. The GOP – the conservative party – failed to conserve anything.”

    That is observably false.

    “What’s more, they adamantly refused and continue to refuse to even acknowledge what should be conserved: a United States based ethnically and culturally on Christian Europe.”

    That would be the designs of the Alt Right or reactionaries, not conservatives in general. Remember, ORIGINALLY people came from Europe to settle here. But the Founding Fathers gave deference to Congress, and by way of citizen action, they chart the future course.

    “The United States was once a European, Christian country.”

    With certain European groups deemed more “desirable” than others. Thankfully, that changed.

    “The GOP did nothing to conserve that.”

    It was not their responsibility.

    “They refused to fight against the invasion by non-Europeans.

    “They refused to stand up for Christian values. ”

    Again, that is observably false.

    “The old GOP is dead because it doesn’t have a constituency.”

    Not particularly accurate here.

    “It doesn’t stand for European Americans. It doesn’t stand for Christian values.”

    It stands for all Americans who may be or may not be Christian.

    “I’d rather vote Democratic to speed up the coming train wreck.”

    I doubt you would ever do something like that.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  27. joe webb says:

    Subject: Fw: PJB: The Never-Trumpers Are Never Coming Back. (letter grade: B , because….)

    …because Pat does not explain why Russia has remained The bogey-man since the wall came down in 1989 and communism old style was finished. (new style is our current anti-fa and Third World Armies of the Night.)

    The reason that Russia has remained our Designated Enemy is , pardon me, The Jews. Ever since Stalin started cracking down on the Jewish Power in Russia by stomping on the Trotsky Jewish Permanent Revolution types, from the early 30s if not earlier, in the attempt to build Socialism in One Country instead of International Revolution, which did and would get Russia into hot water with the West, as in HItler, and ended more or less with Stalin’s insertion of an ice-pick into Trotsky’s head in Mexico about 1947, The Jews have been at war with their confreres, the Stalinists.

    They lost. Then the same guy who tried to get nuclear missiles into Cuba, Khruchev, with Castro slavering to nuke the US, and who sensibly realized that maybe he was making a Jewish mistake, as in Permanent (World) Revolution by unleashing Curtis Lemay’s Air Force on the People’s Paradise, in which most of Russians would indeed wake up in said Paradise, and perhaps happily anticipating Shirley MacLaine’s big wet kiss on his bald pate, he decided that Peaceful Coexistence was a better deal, sort of like Stalin.

    Meanwhile The Jews (called Neoconservatives were busy in the 70s hatching their comeback reptilian theories , accommodated by that Washington Senator.. Jackson?? and talmudically parsing the Words of The Chicago School, what’s his name, Dean of the Neocon Universe, and Mother of the aborted Plato child, The Noble Lie…Leo Strauss, another Jew of course.

    So after the 1967 Six-Day War, in which G-d Revealed Himself (Jehovah of course) to the Neoconservatives and millions of Jews who then really got religion, not Judaism, but Zionism/Israel, and our Fundamentalist Amen Corner Christian Zionists thought the Rapture was just around the their corner, The Jewish Power really took off. Kissinger threw out the Arabists in the State Dept. (they were too pro-Arab) and the the following Yom-Kippur War of 1973 (remember the gas lines…Arab oil boycott?) failed to dampen much the Jewish Spirit, where they almost lost the war…( the US stepped in with 24/7 resupply of weapons to stem the Egyptian tide, this time not caught unawares with their pants down as about 500 Russian Migs were dismantled on the ground by God’s Chosen in 1967)

    The Jews hate Russia. Because of the above, and then there was the 1970s exodus as more and more Jews realized that they were not welcome in Russia. The the Putin reversals of the Yeltsin give-aways to the Jew Oligarchs, and Putin’s driving the Jew Oligarchs out of power, etc. Ouch!

    So on to the Jewish Wars against the Arabs of the last few years, as well as the whole Israel Imperialism in the first place. And 9-11-01…all because of Israel, regardless of who-dun-it.

    And now the Trump Derangement Syndrome in the FBI and the hysteria about Russia. On and on.

    This is what Pat, as great as he is, avoids. Thank Trump for redesignation of the Enemy, from Russia to Chinkdom, the Oriental Despotism of all time, much worse than the Jews.

    Joe Webb

  28. KenH says:

    Not sure if I concur with Pat. He also predicted the demise of the (((neo-cons))) way back in 2004-05 and as we all know they only mutated and planted deeper roots in the Republican party and its allied think tanks while making inroads into the Democrat party, their former stomping ground, as a backup plan. And Jewish money has a choke hold on most Republican legislators. If anything Trump is interloping on what they feel is their hallowed territory which is why they are cheerleaders for Robert Mueller.

    However Trump has yet to reject the neo-cons and has one of the biggest fire breathers serving as his nat sec adviser.

    On the flip side it appears that much of the base, otherwise known as the deplorables, is moving off the reservation and undergoing a long overdue radicalization process and rejecting the tired old GOP establishment and its policies. Where they’re still hopelessly brainwashed is in the JQ and Israel who they are fanatically devoted to.

    Time will tell. But I hope the insurgent candidates of the future are to the right of Trump and openly pro-white just like the Democrats keep moving towards Vladimir Lenin and are openly anti-white.

  29. Tycho says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Charly Nitwit: If all entarte foreigners were forced out of the US then there be only a handfull of people left after you… degenerates… killed almost all of the aboriginals.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  30. Them Guys says:

    perpetrators, instigators, & profiteers—not “victims”

    “Chosen People” started World War ONE (Gavrilo Princep, a crypto-Jew, and his mostly Jewish co-assassins of the Judeo-Masonic “Black Hand Lodge.” Vicomte Leon de Poncins, p. 75, referencing p. 46 of the Pharos shorthand report of the assassins’ trial.)—25 million died.

    “Chosen People” started World War TWO (the 1933 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany)—60 to 80 million died.

    “Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, et al.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, et al.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, et al.), and mostly ran Communism (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, et al.), their secret police (Beria, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, Gay, Speigelglas, Babel, Zederbaum, et al.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, et al.). Though “Jews” were only 1 or 2% of the Russian population, over 30% of the general party membership and over 90% of Communist command and control were Jewish—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.

    The synagogue of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a 1/3 BILLION gentiles in the 20th century. How many will you let them kill in the 21st century?

    Notice that when their genocide of over 60 million Christians was under way, the tribe boasted that Communism was theirs. Now that the death toll of Judeo-Communism is well-known, the tribe pretends they had nothing to do with it:

    “Some call it Marxism – I call it Judaism.”
    Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, in the American Bulletin of May 15, 1935

    “The revolution in Russia is a Jewish revolution”
    The Maccabean (New York), Nov. 1905, p, 250

    “Jewry is the mother of Marxism.”
    Le Droit de Vivre, May 12, 1936

    “Judaism is Marxism, communism”
    Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 64

    “The communist soul is the soul of Judaism.”
    Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and an Answer to All Anti-Semites (New York: Committee for the Preservation of the Jews, 1939), p. 143

    “We Jews cannot be called upon to denounce Communism.”
    The American Hebrew (New York), February 3, 1939, p. 11

    “The picture which the Soviet Union presents today is one that should bring rejoicing to world Jewry.”
    The Youngstown Jewish Times, Sept. 18, 1936, page 51

    “It would be absurd to deny the intensity of the Jewish participation in the Russian revolutionary movement.”
    Leon Dennen, in The Menorah Journal (New York) July-September 1932, p. 106

    “That achievement – the Russian-Jewish revolution – destined to figure in history as the overshadowing result of World War, was largely the outcome of Jewish thinking, of Jewish discontent, of Jewish effort to reconstruct.”
    The American Hebrew, September 10, 1920

    “The Bolshevik Government of Russia is the key-stone of the arch of the proof of the Jewish conspiracy for radicalism and world-domination.”
    William Hard, The Great Jewish Conspiracy (New York: American Jewish Book Company, 1920), p. 31

    “The Jewish elements provide the driving forces for communism”
    Dr. Oscar Levy, in George Pitt-Rivers, The World Significance of the Russian Revolution (Oxford, 1920), p. ix

    “The Jews [have been] furnishing for the Bolsheviks the majority of their leaders”
    The Jewish World (London), April 16, 1919, p. 11

    “Russian Jews have taken a prominent part in the Bolshevist movement”
    The American Hebrew (New York), November 18, 1927, p. 20

    “Jewry has come to wield a considerable power in the Communist Party.”
    Dr. Avrahm Yarmolinsky, in The Menorah Journal (New York), July 1928, p. 37

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  31. Them Guys says:

    When there are no Nazis and when there is no “antisemitism,” make some up.

    Yes, the rabbis were—and still are—most happy that Nazi persecution served their purposes, the advancement of Zionism and consolidation of rabbinic power and prestige. All forms of genuine antisemitism (not to be confused with the ADL/Abe Foxman variety of “anything-we-don’t-like-is-antisemitism”) have served the purposes of the rabbis. Where antisemitism has not existed, Jews have had to fabricate, fund, and foster it. Much, but not all, synagogue and grave vandalism has been perpetrated by Jews themselves.

    March 23, 2017, Jewish Bomb Threat Suspect Undermines Groups’ Narrative on Anti-Semitism
    by Ben Sales
    “Many Jewish groups blamed white supremacists, emboldened by Donald Trump’s campaign, for the bomb threats that have plagued Jewish institutions since the beginning of this year. It appears the groups were wrong. The news that one Jewish teen – an Israeli, no less – was behind most of the approximately 150 bomb threats that have hit Jewish community centers since the start of 2017 is a shocking twist in light of months in which the Anti-Defamation League and other groups pointed their collective finger at the far right … Jonathan Sarna, a professor of American Jewish history at Brandeis University, noted that this isn’t the first time that Jews have committed anti-Semitic acts … ‘It is a reminder that we have to be very careful before we talk about a whole wave of anti-Semitism,’ Sarna said. ”

    http://www.jta.org/2017/03/23/news-opinion/united-states/jewish-bomb-threat-suspect-undermines-groups-narrative-on-anti-Semitism

    Are There NAZIS In CANADA? Indeed Yes! Jewish Nazis!

    “In the 1960s the leader of the Canadian Nazi Party was John Beattie. [E]verything from his group’s name to its major activities was suggested or quarterbacked by persons acting as agents for, or reporting to the Canadian Jewish Congress…. The Canadian Jewish Congress, which largely created the short-lived Canadian Nazi Party, had, since the 1930s been lobbying for restrictions on freedom of speech…. an agent for the Canadian Jewish Congress proposed [to Beattie] legal maneuvers that were calculated to frighten and cause distress among Jews, thus heightening the ‘Nazi’ menace, which was used as the argument for the 1971 ‘hate law’ (Section 319 of the Canadian Criminal Code…”
    Testimony of Paul Fromm, Canadian Association of Free Expression, press release, Nov. 26, 2000; Patrick Walsh, “The John Beattie Case,” in The Unholy Alliance: A Documented Case of How Agents Provocateur Infiltrate and Misdirect. Canadian Intelligence Publications, 1986. p. 13.
    “In the 1990s, Grant Bristow, an associate of the Canadian Jewish Congress and an agent of Canada’s secret service, the CSIS (Canadian Security Intelligence Service), took a leadership role in the Right-wing German-Canadian advocacy group, the ‘Heritage Front,’ including supplying them with money. ‘Bristow frequently advocated violence against Jews… Bristow compiled a target list of prominent Jews. He was far more than a mere informant or spy. He was a player, a strong advocate of violence and lawlessness and an anti-Jewish agitator.’ Heritage Front members eventually succumbed to Bristow’s agitation, going to a tavern known to be a hangout for Marxists and Zionists. A fight ensued and Heritage Front members were arrested. The group eventually disbanded, but not before generating plenty of ‘Jew hater’ publicity in the media, very useful to Zionist and rabbinic interests.”
    Paul Fromm, “CSIS Spy Bristow Speaks to Canadian Jewish Congress.” August 4, 2003 in Michael Hoffman, Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition, and Deceit, ISBN9780970378453, p. 833.

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  32. Rurik says:
    @Them Guys

    idiotic guilted whitey youth males, copy catting African dread locks

    yes, the trends you outline are appalling, but the salient thing about Billy Ray there, I think is why anyone on the planet would go to a singer/entertainer for their views on anything other than if a song might sound better in a G minor or D minor chord.

    The way the people of South Africa allowed vapid SJW like Sting or ‘The Boss’ to (catastrophically) effect their national destinies, seems insane to me.

    Today Katy Perry is waxing all things political, as if anyone with a brain cell functioning would care.

    But perhaps what’s most contemptible about someone like Bono hectoring the rest of us, is his rancid, in-your-face hypocrisy, railing at the middle and working class people of the world for their (understandable) reluctance to allow their corrupt governments to tax them all into the poorhouse, while Bono whisks his hundreds of millions offshore to avoid Ireland’s taxes.

    What does someone like Bono (or Billy Ray or Katy) really understand about the nuances of moving NATO into Georgia, or Montenegro?

    answer = 0

    the truth is he’s a megalomaniac with a Che Guevara complex. No doubt with zero knowledge of who Che really was, other than he seems cool to the hip crowd. Whoeverthefuck they are today.

    But that doesn’t stop people from gaping at devas like Bono or Miley, and listening intently.

    this scene from some movie has always been my favorite characterization of your typical, adoring pop music fan. Or sports fan or Democrat or GOP loyalist.

    or you could think of Dubya when he went to the White House, and Richard Pearl and Wolfowitz got a-hold of him. It works for lots, and lots of things.

    My gratitude for the director of this piece. I’ll be behind some driver somewhere unable to make a right turn at a red, and I’ll think of Bub the zombie!

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  33. 22pp22 says:

    Few Americans could care less how many are killed in drone strikes in the Middle East.

    The wars you are fighting there are less moral than Vietnam, yet the groups who opposed Vietnam are silent.

    Trump won on immigration. BUILD THE WALL.

  34. Them Guys says:
    @Echoes of History

    Instead of out of context/partial new testament and, also of old testament, verses and attempting to associate a totally wrong and corrupted meaning to serve your anti Christian agenda. Perhaps you would do well, in fact Much Better Yet, if you familiarized your self with the actual Talmudic pahrisee religious practices and beliefs held by and done by jews eh. For it is they who are the very ROOT cause and problems faced by, America, jewrys current host nation, as well as Every White and Christian Nation Globally.

    This is but one single example of an issue that so baffles most American folks as to, why & how do so many elected and appointed fed govnt officials swear an Oath and Promise to, Obey & Honor & Defend the U.S. Constitution before being sworn into office and positions. Only to then Disobey and Dishonor their Oath. And those same folks so baffled by the total lack of obedience and honor to these sworn to Oaths and Promises, are also aware that, No appointed Nor Elected individual in the entire USA can Occupy which ever office or position unless and until they actually do swear a Publicly Stated Oath as prior mentioned here.

    Well Gee…Perhaps this Talmudic Judaic religious Prayer most every jew recites once each year, may have something to do with a proper and good answer to that massive baffling agenda done by so many Anti-American–Anti Christian-Anti European Whites-Officials eh.

    This Judaic Talmudic prayer supposedly fully absolves them of any and all sworn Oath’s and Promises Made.

    Judaism’s hermeneutic of deceit • Kol Nidre nullification of oaths,
    the infamous Kol Nidre nullification of oaths

    As you may discern for yourself, the accurate translation of the talmudic Kol Nidre prayer is a Yom Kippur (New Year) prayer asking God’s forgiveness in advance for all the lies, deceits, and swindling that the ‘penitent’ will do in the year ahead. The Kol Nidre is closely connected to the “sin chicken” ritual of Kapparot (kapparot= The Chabad Rabbi doing the famed Twirling of a Live Chicken over rabbis head, while chanting talmudic verses in yiddish/hebrew, to Transfer his own Sins into the Live Chicken, then Smashing the Live chicken into a nearby solid Cement or Brick wall to Kill the chicken, Hence once a dead chicken, the rabbis sins transfered into chicken are also dead sins and no longer is rabbi held accountable for his own sins!).

    The …Kol Nidre…Prayer….

    “All vows, obligations, oaths, and anathemas, whether called ḳonam, ḳonas, or by any other name, which we may vow, or swear, or pledge, or whereby we may be bound, from this Day of Atonement until the next (whose happy coming we await), we do repent. May they be deemed absolved, forgiven, annulled, and void, and made of no effect; they shall not bind us nor have power over us. The vows shall not be reckoned vows; the obligations shall not be obligatory; nor the oaths be oaths.”
    From the 1906 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia.

    Note: Keep in mind that, typically when any Goyim gentile questions a jew about this issue and their Kol Nidre Prayer, the average and usual reply or answer given by the jew is very similar to what we so often hear or read about some usa fed court jewish judges nonsensical decisions, in which the jewish judge much like the jew asked about their kol nidre prayer will tell you…..”Oh, that, well see, the actual words do not really mean what they look like or sound like or read as!”

    This is the same reason we get every time, again and again some lefty lib Fed Judge distorts the easy to read and comprehend issue for example, of the second amendment to the us const in the bill of rights….Ie; Right to keep and bear Arms aka Guns/firearms in Private citizen hands etc.

    I hope I need not advise folks that its always best to reject such childish bullshit nonsense of somehow words prayed by jews do not mean what those actual words state! For Yes, those words mean exactly as Prayed aloud by jews, and Yes jews take it very seriously as a buffer to absolve a jew when ever they Reneg on, and Disobey the very Oath a jew Swears to Honor, Obey, Defend, and Uphold as a Condition of his or her holding a legal elected or apointed Office or Position, such as a U.S. Rep/Senator/Fed Supreme Ct Justice etc. Et Al.

    However, besides rejecting such false claim explainations of words mean other than as stated by such jews, those who indeed do violate their Oaths should be held accountable and ejected from office or positions held every time this disobedience of sworn oaths occures. That will never happen, unless and until, a large majority of goyim non jew americans Learn about this very sneeky swinde scam perpetrated Daily and Repeatedly by various elected jews now in office eh…So…get jewized Up, Get Kol Nidre Wized Up, and Go out there to jewize up Other goyim folks and family and neighbors and friends eh!

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  35. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    But do Trumpers have the brains, balls, and brass-knuckles?

    • Replies: @Wally
  36. Them Guys says:
    @Rurik

    Thanks for your reply Rurik, and your posted reply was very well articulated I must say. I also fully agree 100% on all you stated. It is a real shame so many otherwise intelligent adults, as well as teens old enough to be able to properly discern issues, are so easily and massively Duped by idiotic and phony actors and musicians. All it seems to take to royally dupe them today, is a few choice propaganda words within some Hollywood rag/magazine like “People” Magazine.

    Regardless which latest actor or Rock and Rapp music band member is the new “Heart Throb” or, “One of Worlds Top Ten eligible Singles” that happens to get their face on cover of People etc. That’s all it takes and stupid dupes are Off to the Races eh. No matter is ever considered that this months latest heart throb actor or actress is actually, Not very good looking, and at times even a fat ass dim wit with a bad complexion!….None of that presents any concerns. Those so duped, remain so duped period.

    Like I said prior “Are These who we are supposed to hand keys to America over to, after We do the Big Fix so needed”?…..If yes…Why waste Our time, energy, and Cash$$$ to effect a real nationwide Fix at all?

  37. Them Guys says:
    @Tycho

    Most americans today, and for a very long time back, are Native Born. The very same native born as for example Plains Indians that resided in America before it was ever a nation or had its national name of America. That makes most americans today and for a long time now, many generations worth, an Equal with and to native born Indians. Indians as I surmise that is what you really refer to by use of word of Aboriginals.

    So as far as what you stated or claimed?…So….What? and you are wrong on how few be left too.

    It sure would have been far easier and better for European Whiteys that first came to build a nation of America, if savage and backward pagan injuns had invented roads, libraries, schools, factories, govnt buildings, banks, money, and most all else invented by euro whiteys eh….Picture a Wagon Train of a hundred or more new settlers, being able to stop off at closest AAA Insurance office or Govnt provided place to obtain a nice full color Map of USA, so to make the difficult trek westwards a bit easier and a bit faster. Maybe a nice injun store where euro whiteys could have bought a new Steel Rifle and Bowie Knife not made of chipped rock as a substitute for a Real knife.

    Maybe every Non Euro white that so hates American whiteys, needs to, Via new fed/state laws, be forced to relinquish every possible thing they have and own which was invented and built by euro whiteys huh?…Then injuns, africans, mexicans, chinks, jews, and all other non euro whiteys, can go back to a real wonderful life of Nothing worthwhile when compared to all that stuff they now have thanks to euro whitey inventions, and ingenuity and especially all that euro whitey Provided masses of fed taxes used in so many ways to assist and make lives so better for non whiteys.

    Just the fact alone that euro whiteys had to invent and build and pay for so much the entire world of non whites have and enjoy, shows and proves how badly lacking and primitive savage said non whites really were and many still are. If untrue? Then we whites never would have had to do all that in first place, as it would have pre-existed euro whites arrival in America lands.

    This begs the question of: So What do You Not as Yet Get?

  38. Wally says:
    @Biff

    U2 has essentially been playing the same 2-3 songs their entire career.
    Very little real talent there. Now they’re embarrassing themselves.
    They are famous for being famous & Bono is a thick-as-a-brick poser, conformist.

  39. Wally says:
    @Them Guys

    All based upon the easily demonstrated fraud of the ’6,000,000 Jews, 5,000,000 others, & gas chambers’.

    The ever changing fake Auschwitz znumbers: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5631

    How to Escape from a Homicidal Gas Chamber – In an Even Easier Way: https://codoh.com/library/document/4404/?lang=en
    excerpt”
    “Många hade varit i Auschwitz, hade “gasnummer” intatuerade på sina armar. Några hade lyckats ta sig ut ur gaskammaren genom ett fönster”.
    Translation:
    “Many had been in Auschwitz and had “gas numbers” tattooed on their arms. Some had managed to escape from the gas chamber through a window”.

    http://www.codoh.com

  40. @anonymous

    Other columnists published here have addressed the importance of Israel to many in Washington — again, including President Trump — as key to all of this. If Mr. Buchanan disagrees, then he should explain why.

    Here here! Mr. Buchanan, for all his many insights, fails himself to realize that this is also an age of naming the real enemy. It was never Bush’s New World Order.

    The ‘let’s you and him fight’ stuff is fast fading into the outer fringes of the Overton Window already.

  41. @Them Guys

    You saying “out of context” is like a Leftard saying “rayciss.” It means naught but a signal of your desperate disapproval. Christians unable to accept the plain meaning of words in the Jew Testament have made the deceitful and ineffectual whine of “out of context” into a youtube joke. Enjoy.

  42. @Them Guys

    “Jewry is the mother of Marxism.”

    True. Ever read the Jew Testament? Karl Marx took his famous maxim nearly word for word from a couple passages in the Jew Testament, as follows:

    • “…each according to his ability.” Matthew 25:15

    • “…not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them…and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” Acts 4:32, 35

    And this anti-communist fellow was correct in his view of the Jew Testament:

    “…primitive Christianity is Bolshevism.”

    -Ludwig von Mises (1951) Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, p. 413

    Now I’m going to to ask you a question Jesus posed once: And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

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  43. MBlanc46 says:
    @donald j tingle

    And ownership is likely to revert to the previous bunch in 2020.

  44. @anonymous

    You don’t know what you’re talking about if you think Mr. Buchanan hasn’t called out Israel.

    https://buchanan.org/blog/israel-first-america-first-126338

  45. @Rurik

    If Trump gets too much starch in him, the scenario will be like this:

    Trump = JFK
    Pence = LBJ

    The Mossad has no qualms about anything.

  46. @Biff

    “U2 is an institution, and that’s how Bono(little Paul) views the world, and he thinks those institutions that have been ravaging Africa are going to save it.
    He writes good music, but politically he’s dumb as an Ox.”

    Funny you pick an ox … I would have picked a buffalo.

    In the ’90s I was installed as The Suit (business guy) of a NYC media company we added to our portfolio, and as I was walking through the hall past a video editing suite, I heard the voice of Bono saying, “It’s a fooking buffalo running around in a fooking field.” I went on to do my business, and, ten minutes later, on the way back, stopped in to say hi to the editor, who introduced me to Bono. Bono then said, “Look at this and tell me what you think.”

    So they play the video, and I deadpanned, “It’s a fucking buffalo running around in a fucking field.” That, folks, is my big contribution to Music Video. I have seen the buffalo-version of One a couple times since, but they decided to redo the big release instead with what looks like Bono sitting in a bar.

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  47. TG says:

    Ah, but with respect, the “Never Trumpers” have won. They don’t have to come back – they never left.

    The “Never Trumpers” didn’t object to Donald Trump, not per se. They screamed because they were paid to do so by their wealthy patrons. They wanted to stop, not Trump, but the possibility of not wasting trillions of dollars on pointless overseas wars and instead spending the money on ourselves, not throwing trillions of dollars at Wall Street while starving Main Street of capital, and most importantly, of not letting ourselves be over-run with third-world refugees so that the rich can have cheap labor.

    Trump the threat to the establishment is indeed dead. It is only Trump the political circus that lives on.

  48. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:

    Bono is a buffoon, like that other working class hero, Bruce Springsteen.

  49. Them Guys says:
    @Echoes of History

    You keep mis representing mis interpretations to mean what they do not mean. The Acts verse for example did not and does not apply as You imply or state it as. it is Not saying every Christian worldwide in all eras must do as written and reject personal ownership and hand it all over to the group.

    That was One particular time and incident, where because of Intense jewish & roman govnt persecutions of Christians…Back Then….In order to survive and even remain alive. The community of Christians all agreed they’d need Move into and live within the Burial Catacombs. Their reason to believe in safety obtained via living underground in literally what was a catacomb of buried dead bodies, was due to the Fact that jewish Talmudic law does not ever allow a jew to even walk thru any areas dead are buried in or at…This included underground burial catacombs…hence those Christians could remain relatively safe and alive by remaining underground literally.

    And under such drastic circumstances faced then by Christians due to massive jewish abject hatred of Christians, and the fact that jews were outing as many Christians as the jews were able to, to Roman govnt authorities so romans would kill Christians.

    It was then comparable to for example say, Todays era, 2018 and if americans faced a real SHTF chaos situation of loss of all normal methods to get food and water and fuels and most every necessity in order to just survive….Of Course Nobody in sane proper mind, including You, would object if your immediate community or neighborhood members had no other best option choice But to compile all foods etc and appoint leaders to Ration necessities in order to best serve and keep alive the entire group of neighbors.

    And if like many libertarians attitude of “Well as Long as I got Mine….Then totally Screw them what don’t” also is or would be Your attitude in such a drastic event….I’d pity you for being so stupid and selfish, for it would not take very long before others decided You were a threat to Their lives and survival. Next someone stronger or better armed than You would do what ever it takes and you’d be history most likely. You can debate if its proper or not…But its how it is in those drastic event eras.

    So once again you, being very smart obviously based on other postings by you, do know what those and many other bible verses really teach and advise eh…But being so anti Christianity you simply and purposely mis-interpret verses and present them in a totally non proper meaning.

    I guess some foolish folks may get convinced by you to be unbelievers etc…and if you choose that route its fine and okay as well….after all if you are wrong it will be only you who’s at a loss for it.

    I just find it very ironic how you like so many atheist types always work so hard to convince others thru wrongly and falsely interpreting bible verses. But Oh Well, that’s your choice to do so.

    I also expect you will ignore the fact of what I said you are doing and keep on with same ol same ol, so after this reply I think its a waste of my time responding to your replies further.

    I also aint very concerned of too many others being duped by your methods as described by me. Most folks can see thru it fine I think and wont fall for such obvious fraud meanings as you promote or describe.

  50. @Corvinus

    With certain European groups deemed more “desirable” than others. Thankfully, that changed.

    Why are you thankful it changed?

    Why should Americans of our founding stock be thankful?

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  51. Mulegino1 says:

    Recipe for a “Never Trumper”:

    Start with 2 pounds of neocon yeast.

    Take one bow tie, and mix in some horn rimmed glasses.

    Then a pair of lips– purse well.

    Throw in a pound of Churchill worship along with 4 heaping tablespoons of Israel first.

    One can of Neville Chamberlain Black Umbrella sauce to keep the mix from Hitlerizing.

    Mix until a good, globalist free trade thickness is achieved. Season to taste with token minority and homo spice.

    And don’t forget the 1/2 pound of Russophobia!

    Feel free to improvise- you can add to the taste by throwing in a hefty portion of baseball or civil war analogies.

  52. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    The Never-Trumpers are just the Republican Party returning to its natural state.

  53. So-called “Never-Trumpers” reminds me of the neo-conservatives. Not just in the sense that they are often the very same people, but in the sense they form solely a cadre among the elite. Their viewpoint is seldom found among members of the actual American electorate.

  54. Milton says:

    Pat is getting senile in his old age. He consistently misidentifies the cause of the disease. It wasn’t Left or Right that sold out the Country. The Country was not sold out. It was overthrown in a violent coup on November 22, 1963 by Israel and the Freemason establishment in this country who have loyalty only the the International Lodge. President John Adams warned us about the threat posed by the Freemasons to this Country’s survival and Saint Maximillian Kolbe correctly noted that the Freemasons don’t run the show, they only take orders – orders from the Hebrews.

    We haven’t had a legitimate President or Government since Nov. 22, 1963. If men of power in this country suddenly have a conversion experience and decide to rectify that crime and cease with their ongoing coup and junta, then the situation will get better. Until that happens, America is lost.

  55. Zach says:
    @mark green

    The Never-Trumpers are mostly on MSNBC where people like Rachel Maddow use them as a stick to beat Trump. Politically they’ve been neutered

  56. @Them Guys

    The Acts verse did not and does not apply?

    I am really starting to like your interpretive skills!

    If parts of the Bible you don’t like do not apply, how about extending your interpretive method to say the whole Jew Testament, for example, doesn’t apply as you imply or state it as. :)

    Thank you for showing us the way! Them Guys, you are my greatest ally.

    But I’d hate to dismiss the whole Tanakh too. Is it OK if I do actually do apply Ecclesiastes? I still kind of like quite a bit of that book, especially since Jesus openly condemned the author, and Paul too argued vociferously against what Ecclesiastes says.

    So I commended the enjoyment of life, because there is nothing better for a man under the sun than to eat and drink and be merry. (Ecclesiastes 8:15)

    “Ecclesiastes is the only charming book ever written by a Jew.” (Ernest Renan, 1823 – 1892)

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  57. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “Why are you thankful it changed?”

    WASPs thought non-WASPs could not assimilate. The WASPs were clearly proven wrong.

    “Why should Americans of our founding stock be thankful?”

    Because the Constitutional promises were delivered to a number of groups who had been deemed unworthy of having their liberties honored.

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  58. Them Guys says:
    @Echoes of History

    So now you resort to twisting what I stated eh. This totally asinine idiotic response by you vindicates what I prior stated as to my expected response you’d provide. You employ typical lib lefty Alinsky spin tactics, with trying to twist whatever has been written or stated be it from biblical verse sources, or a reply comment such as mine. Then same as idiotic lib leftys do, you are so convinced by your idiotic false interpretations, in other words, you like they, believe your own spin and out right lies of actual word meanings, that you then gloat and boast as if somehow you just discovered some very important and prior unknown of wonderment. However, rest assured that you have not discovered the missing link or anything else, for all you really do is copy cat the countless many other foolish spin miesters and alinsky devotee’s which are also a basic lost cause of any importance or ground shaking wonder.

    Kind of like being a huge legend, but only in their own minds eh.

    • Replies: @Echoes of History
  59. @Corvinus

    Why are you thankful it changed?”

    WASPs thought non-WASPs could not assimilate. The WASPs were clearly proven wrong.

    That is not an answer. Why are you thankful? What benefit has it brought to you?

    “Why should Americans of our founding stock be thankful?”

    Because the Constitutional promises were delivered to a number of groups who had been deemed unworthy of having their liberties honored.

    That is not an answer either. What good did it do the original founders of this country, and what benefit has it given their posterity? As a member of that posterity, what profit or pleasure should I imagine it brought me? I can identify none.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  60. Mj says:

    I like reading Pat. I really do. And I like reading people like him. But it would be nice to read an article by Pat without seeing Ronald Reagan invoked. The Reagan fetish needs to end. It’s comical how many aging conservatives were (and are) bewitched by the guy.

  61. Biff says:
    @The Alarmist

    He writes good music, but politically he’s dumb as a fooking buffalo running around in a fooking field.

    Got ya covered.

  62. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Nonwhite legal immigration must be shut down to 0…followed by the mass deportation of the Chinese…Hindu….Muslim Democratic Party Voting Bloc…..

    As a low-IQ wigger, such simple-minded gas-blowing from you is to be expected. But yet, you have outdone yourself this time.

    The US will never strip the citizenship of another US citizen (born or naturalized) without them having committed a felonious crime (if then).

    Screech all you want, your ape-like belief that the US will strip US citizenship from people born here just because they are of an ethnicity that an illiterate like you disapproves of, will never happen. It is hard to make your self look any dumber than you already have.

    • Replies: @gustafus21
  63. @Them Guys

    I didn’t twist what you said. I quoted you word-for-word, moron.

    You are a great example of what the Jew Paul said about his dupes, that they are ignoble morons who swallow nonsense.

    1 Corinthians 1:18-26 “For the message about the cross is nonsense…the nonsense of our preaching…Not many of you were wise by human standards…not many were noble…”

    You truly are an ignoble moron who swallows nonsense. Don’t blame me, it’s in the Jew Testament.

    P.S. It’s fun when the Bible is confirmed by science!

    More Religious, Less Intelligent—and Vice Versa
    A study finds an inverse relationship between religiousness and intelligence.
    psychologytoday.com/blog/how-risky-is-it-really/201402/more-religious-less-intelligent-and-vice-versa

    P.P.S. Maybe you should read more from the one decent book in the Bible:

    Be not overly righteous. (Ecclesiastes 7:16)

    • Replies: @in the middle
  64. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “That is not an answer. Why are you thankful? What benefit has it brought to you?”

    I gave my responses. Obviously YOU did not find them “acceptable”. C’est la vie.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  65. @Corvinus

    Your “responses” did not answer my questions.

    You have not described what benefit, profit, or pleasure the admission of aliens previously excluded has given you, or should give Americans of the country’s founding stock. Since you evaded answering those questions, may we assume that the answer is none?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  66. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “You have not described what benefit, profit, or pleasure the admission of aliens previously excluded has given you.”

    I will repeat my answer again. The benefit of having WASPs proven clearly wrong that non-WASPs could not assimilate.

    “or should give Americans of the country’s founding stock.”

    The founding stock consisted of Europeans, black African slaves, and Native Americans. We come from a proud heritage, and the benefit is that the Founding Fathers enabled future generations to chart their own course.

    “Since you evaded answering those questions, may we assume that the answer is none?

    I gave my responses. You do not accept them. You can assume whatever you want.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @Svigor
  67. Thomm says:

    You have not described what benefit, profit, or pleasure the admission of aliens previously excluded has given you, or should give Americans of the country’s founding stock.

    I’ll answer on behalf of Corvinus.

    It increased the GDP of the US, enabling the US to become a superpower.

    Nevermind the second fact that of the US troops who fought in WW2, most were not the descendants of 1776 English settlers.

    Plus, I am quite certain that all 64 of your GGGG-GPs were not in the US in 1776. Hence, you don’t really have seniority over others.

    Lastly, what benefits did Native Americans get from the influx of English settlers? I bet you don’t have an answer for that.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  68. @Sally Snyder

    That goes to show how much the US has lost to the ‘transnational’ companies. Those so called transnational companies, care less about countries, all they care is their rapacious ways to rake your hard earned cash. That’s all they care about. You could read the book ‘pawns in the game’, by Admiral Carr and find out more, about who runs the show, and if they care or not for me and you. NOT!

  69. @War for Blair Mountain

    Right on! I went to Walmart and the manager was a Chinese lady who could hardly pronounce a conversation in English. She was the manager! When she found out that I was a serviceman, she started saying that her country had better planes that ours. I noticed a disdain for the US military in her voice. Who the hell is bringing these people over? My anger was boiling, and when she noticed she backed off. So yes, we do need ‘patriotic’ Americans to stand up, and man the gap, yes that gap left by the evilcraps, in power for so long, and their minions like evil Mctrator who is a democrat in disguise. Come on America, lets as they say in Texas, cowboy up, and say what is needed to be said, and stand up for this Country of ours. I don’t give a darn if I am called racist, anti talmudist, anti whatever, as long as I am standing up for My country. I support Trump all the way, in his foreign policies, except in the middle east. Lets have at the Chinese trade, all they way and win, the Europeans as well, and any one else who has taken advantage of the evilcrats in the past, and the republic-rats, as well. Trump beat them all, we deplorables beat their rear, so now lets support the president in his fight against the republirats, and evilcrats, his fight should be the patriots fight, lets have a at it, and may God help us.

  70. @Echoes of History

    the Jew Paul.

    Really, who the hell told you he was a Jew? OMG. You should be the one reading more bible my friend.
    Paul himself tells us:

    circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin; a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee

    So, no! Paul was not a Jew, thank you very much! He was Hebrew, not Jew, Just like Iesous Christos, another Hebrew, and not Jew. I know, may be “churchianity’ has brain washed you, so please read it your self, and prevent the ‘pastors’ of churchianity teach you their version.

    At the end of the day, both out of line with reality. Sad, as Trump usually says. hahaha

    • Replies: @Echoes of History
  71. @anonymous

    He still advocates “funding a defense [sic] second to none.”

    He wants to build the world’s highest wall.

  72. @Corvinus

    The benefit of having WASPs proven clearly wrong that non-WASPs could not assimilate

    Some have, but I’m not sure that all non-WASPs have assimilated, or that all of them can. So, it hasn’t been proven. Moreover, how has that benefited you? Has your standard of living been improved? Maybe you have a wetback for a housemaid or a yard man?

    The founding stock consisted of Europeans, black African slaves, and Native Americans.

    Now you’re changing your definitions. Your previous non-answers equated founding stock with WASPs. I was not really considering the last two classes you list, since the whole previous discussion was about the original colonists and settlers, who did not include Amerinds here already, and blacks brought here as slaves. We were talking about the people who founded the country for themselves, namely the WASPs (defined loosely, as Digby Baltzell did, to include Dutch, Huguenots, etc.).

    Whether either blacks or Amerinds benefited by mass immigration is perhaps even more dubious than whether WASPs have – after all, Amerinds were ethnically cleansed, the buffalo herds deliberately destroyed to drive them onto reservations, and they were generally impoverished until they discovered how to run casinos. As for the blacks, how has mass immigration benefited them? They’ve been driven from the kinds of service jobs that they typically used to hold by immigrant mestizos, middle-easterners, etc. Black unemployment has fallen recently but has consistently been higher than that anong immigrants, legal or otherwise. The smarter blacks, those that want jobs rather than the dole, recognize immigrants, legal or otherwise, as direct competitors in their segment of the labor market, and therefore as a threat to their economic well-being.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  73. @in the middle

    Hebrew, not Jew? LOL You’re directly contradicting the Jew Testament. Dodge this.

    John 4:22 “Salvation is from the Jews.”

    Hebrew is synonymous with Jew.

    By the Roman period, “Hebrews” could be used to designate the Jews…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews#Use_as_synonym_for_”Jews”

    Ἑβραῖος Hebraîos, heb-rah’-yos; from G1443; a Hebræan (i.e. Hebrew) or Jew:—Hebrew.
    Lexicon :: Strong’s G1445 – Hebraios

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G1445&t=NKJV

    Your shipload of parsing fail has arrived.

  74. @Thomm

    Nevermind the second fact that of the US troops who fought in WW2, most were not the descendants of 1776 English settlers.

    This country should never have intervened in WW1, and had it not done so, the circumstances leading to WW2 would not have arisen. Well did John Quincy Adams, in his Independence Day speech of 1821, describe Europe as “that Aceldama.”

    Plus, I am quite certain that all 64 of your GGGG-GPs were not in the US in 1776. Hence, you don’t really have seniority over others.

    I am quite certain you have not seen my ahnentafel. Actually, they were. My family was full of DARs, and so my genealogy was extensively documented before I even started working on it myself. What I have found has added to that documentation and shown that I am entirely of colonial stock. I’m a past president of my state societies of SR, SAR, and the War of 1812, a member of the Society of Colonial Wars, OFPA, the Society of St. Nicholas, and others. Moreover there are surprisingly many people of similar purely colonial stock.

    Lastly, what benefits did Native Americans get from the influx of English settlers? I bet you don’t have an answer for that.

    Indeed I do, and you may see it in my comment (above, numbered 75). The Amerinds did not benefit from it, and what happened to them is a cautionary example we ought to contemplate before laying out the welcome mat for new waves of foreign intruders. They did not, in the end, have the ability to repel the invaders, and they suffered accordingly. He who is ignorant of history is compelled to repeat it. Let’s not repeat theirs.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  75. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    Be careful. You’re breaking Billy Ray’s achy breaky heart.

  76. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “Some have, but I’m not sure that all non-WASPs have assimilated, or that all of them can. So, it hasn’t been proven. ”

    No, ALL have assimilated because they had the work ethic, the intelligence, and the willingness to immerse themselves into our culture.

    “Now you’re changing your definitions. Your previous non-answers equated founding stock with WASPs.”

    WASPs were but one of our “founding stock”. I have not changed any definitions.

    “Moreover, how has that benefited you? Has your standard of living been improved?”

    Already answered that question, Kemosabe.

    “Maybe you have a wetback for a housemaid or a yard man?”

    No, just a single Brazilian woman down the street who tans in the nude.

    “I was not really considering the last two classes you list, since the whole previous discussion was about the original colonists and settlers…”

    Which I had stated early consisted of Europeans, black slaves, and Native Americans.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  77. Thomm says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    I am quite certain you have not seen my ahnentafel. Actually, they were. My family was full of DARs, and so my genealogy was extensively documented before I even started working on it myself. What I have found has added to that documentation and shown that I am entirely of colonial stock. I’m a past president of my state societies of SR, SAR, and the War of 1812, a member of the Society of Colonial Wars, OFPA, the Society of St. Nicholas, and others. Moreover there are surprisingly many people of similar purely colonial stock.

    This is statistically highly unlikely. You may have traced your Patrilineal line, and perhaps the path between you and some more famous ancestor, but to claim that you even know who all 256 GGGGGG-GPs are, let alone that all were 1776 Colonials, is highly improbable. Maybe 2% of the current US white population can claim that. Remember that even a single female ancestor who was German, Native American, Acadian/Quebecois, etc. means you are not fully from 100% 1776 founder stock.

    Maybe you are part of this 2% (I can’t prove or disprove your claim), but don’t claim that more than 2% of the US white population qualifies. I am a heavily mongrelized white person, so I know how mixed almost all US whites are.

    Ironically, an African American (such as a Gullah) has a higher (but still small) chance of all 256 of his/her G^6 GPs being from 1776 US residents than a white American does.

    The Amerinds did not benefit from it,

    OK, at least you are consistent.

    I believe that the Natives did benefit in the long run (although not the short run), just like we current Americans benefit from skilled immigration (although not unskilled and certainly not illegal).

  78. @Thomm

    You may have traced your Patrilineal line, and perhaps the path between you and some more famous ancestor, but to claim that you even know who all 256 GGGGGG-GPs are, let alone that all were 1776 Colonials, is highly improbable.

    You have moved the goalposts. You originally stated “Plus, I am quite certain that all 64 of your GGGG-GPs were not in the US in 1776.” Now you have moved to 6th great-grandparents from 4th great-grandparents. I do know that my 4th great-grandparents were all here in 1776, and for me, the 4th great-grandparents were the main revolutionary generation. It is true that some of the previous generation fought in the Revolution; I have a father-son pair of Virginia militia on my father’s side, and a father-son pair of New York Continental line on my mother’s, inter alia.

    I know quite a lot of people who have similarly exclusive colonial ancestry. I have been active in lineage societies for more than forty years, and one tends to meet such people in that social context. One friend has documented 34 Revolutionary soldiers in his lineage. His ancestors were all Pennsylvania Germans from Lancaster county, who stayed there and married among themselves. He was the first in his family to move elsewhere in something like 300 years. I knew one of the late genealogists-general of the SAR who had documented something over 50 supplementals.

    Remember that even a single female ancestor who was German … means you are not fully from 100% 1776 founder stock

    There were plenty of people of German ancestry in the colonies before 1776, and many of them fought in the Revolution, which makes them “1776 founder stock.” They, like the Dutch, the Huguenots, etc., formed part of it, along with colonists of British ancestry.

    I believe that the Natives did benefit in the long run (although not the short run), just like we current Americans benefit from skilled immigration (although not unskilled and certainly not illegal).

    The Amerind population has come a long way in the past thirty or forty years, since figuring out the casino business. I’m aware of one nearby Indian band that reportedly enjoy annual incomes in excess of half a million dollars per buck, squaw, and papoose. Not bad, when one considers the abject poverty they suffered within living memory, before they built a casino.

    There is a strict genealogical requirement for membership in the band. A friend of mine who is a professional genealogist was once engaged to prove a client’s eligibility, which he was able to do. I remarked to him that if there were something like the Tichbourne case today, it would be about a claim to membership in a casino-owning Indian band rather than to an abeyant baronetcy.

    On skilled v. unskilled/illegal immigration, here’s a link to an interesting document from the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank:

    https://www.dallasfed.org/research/papers/2017/~/media/documents/research/papers/2017/wp1704.pdf

    The gist of it seems to be that immigrants with less than university education are net costs to the economy and immigrants with university degrees are the only ones that are net contributors to it.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  79. @Thomm

    Maybe you are part of this 2% (I can’t prove or disprove your claim), but don’t claim that more than 2% of the US white population qualifies.

    As an arrière-pensée – 2% is one person in fifty. In a country with a population estimated at 320 million, it amounts to 6.4 million people, hardly a very exclusive club. I often wonder what kind of command most people have of basic arithmetic.

    In a similar vein, we have heard a lot from politicians about “the 1%” of the wealthiest Americans. That amounts to 3.2 million people, again, not a very exclusive group. In 2015 I attended a speech given by an economist at the local Fed. He indicated that a net worth of a little less than $7 million put one in the top 1% by wealth. Today the figure is higher, I think about $10 million. At that level one is not part of the private-jet set, but perhaps just a successful small business owner or a professional in his peak earning years who has invested wisely.

    If you have met more than a very few people, it is probable that you are acquainted with at least one person of entirely colonial lineage, and with at least one person who has a net worth that places him in the top 1% by wealth.

  80. @Corvinus

    No, ALL have assimilated because they had the work ethic, the intelligence, and the willingness to immerse themselves into our culture.

    ALL?

    According to the article below, 22% of inmates in Federal prisons are immigrants:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/immigrants-22-percent-federal-prison-population/

    Are the members of MS-13 assimilating “because they had the work ethic, the intelligence, and the willingness to immerse itself into our culture”?

    This has been going on for a long time. We never had the mafia here before Italian immigration. We never had communists here before the immigration of German Jacobins, and later, Ashkenazic Jews. Such elements have “assimilated” in about the way a pathogenic protozoan or bacillus does to its host; the “culture” into which they had the “willingness to immerse themselves” was from their point of view akin to a petri dish freshly filled with agar.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  81. Thomm says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    You originally stated “Plus, I am quite certain that all 64 of your GGGG-GPs were not in the US in 1776.”

    So stick with 64 GGGG-GPs. I just increased the generations to make sure it timed with 1776 (as I don’t know how old you are). But stay with 64, but the point stands. Extremely few Americans (2% of whites) have all 64 GGGG-GPs who were living in the US. Maybe you are among those 2%, but don’t claim that it is more than 2%.

    As an arrière-pensée – 2% is one person in fifty. In a country with a population estimated at 320 million, it amounts to 6.4 million people, hardly a very exclusive club.

    No, the percentage is what matters.

    If you readily admit that it is only 2%, then the rest of your points collapse. As I said, blacks are the most likely to have all 64 GGGG-GPs living in the uS>

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  82. Thomm says:

    The gist of it seems to be that immigrants with less than university education are net costs to the economy and immigrants with university degrees are the only ones that are net contributors to it.

    Well, yes. I believe the bar should be even higher. My immigration policy would only allow immigrants who are set to be Top-20% earners, and their spouses, into the countries. No other immigrants allowed. These people, obviously, are huge net surplus generators.

    Financially, we can’t really afford to turn these people away. Much of the recent rise of China, India, etc. is specifically because we didn’t Hoover up all these high-achievers when we had the chance.

    This standard of entry will simultaneously exclude almost all blacks, Mestizos, etc. from immigrating, without overtly appearing ‘racist’.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @MarkinLA
  83. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “According to the article below, 22% of inmates in Federal prisons are immigrants”

    Adding the context here –> “A stunning 22 percent of inmates in the federal prison population are immigrants who have either already been deemed to be in the country illegally or who the government is looking to put in deportation proceedings, the administration said Tuesday.”

    So they are here illegally, and are in federal prison as a result, as it should be.

    “We never had the mafia here before Italian immigration. We never had communists here before the immigration of German Jacobins, and later, Ashkenazic Jews.

    Apparently you are a sadist in your enjoyment of making sweeping generalizations about entire groups of people. I can play your game, too. We never had your ancestors, the English, establish as common practice the brutally raping of slave women before they came here.

    Your point is “weak sauce” as they say.

    “Such elements have “assimilated” in about the way…”

    Italians, Jews, Germans, Assyrians, etc. as GROUPS, have generally learned the King’s English and embraced American customs. Each group will have their undesirable elements.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
  84. @Thomm

    Maybe you are among those 2%, but don’t claim that it is more than 2%.

    I’m not claiming it is more than 2%. That’s still quite a substantial number of people. And I know my ahnentafel, which confirms that I’m one of those 6.4 million people. As I say, it’s not a particularly restrictive club.

    How do my points collapse on account of this? Oligarchy is the political order to which all societies sooner or later default. It’s just a question of what kind of oligarchy one prefers. I’d prefer one made up of people of old American stock.

  85. @Thomm

    Well, yes. I believe the bar should be even higher. My immigration policy would only allow immigrants who are set to be Top-20% earners, and their spouses, into the countries. …This standard of entry will simultaneously exclude almost all blacks, Mestizos, etc. from immigrating, without overtly appearing ‘racist’.

    That would indeed be desirable, were it possible to achieve.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  86. @Corvinus

    Italians, Jews, Germans, Assyrians, etc. as GROUPS, have generally learned the King’s English and embraced American customs. Each group will have their undesirable elements.

    That may well be, but your original claim was that “ALL have assimilated because they had the work ethic, the intelligence, and the willingness to immerse themselves into our culture.” All clearly haven’t, as the example of MS-13 demonstrates. Now you are qualifying your previous assertion.

    Some may have assimilated, but others haven’t, and some are unlikely ever to assimilate. How much better it would be not to permit them to enter to begin with.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  87. Thomm says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    That would indeed be desirable, were it possible to achieve.

    Canada’s immigration policy before Zoolander Trudeau was much closer to this. It was a skill-based system that set the bar higher than almost any blacks or Guatemalans could clear. Hence, all immigrants were generally of a professional profile that exceeded that of domestic Canadians.

    Of course, Zoolandeau destroyed that.

    Australia still has an immigration policy somewhat close to what I have postulated, but will certainly follow Zoolandeau’s lead in wrecking that as well.

  88. Ceril35 says:

    To utter hell with the “Never Trumpers”. I do not consider them to be anything like the conservatives I was raised to look up to.

    They may think of themselves ‘conservatives”, but no, they are closer to the statists they are employed by. They are arrogant, smug assholes who live in such tiny realms, they have no idea about what all of us deplorables are all about and why we voted Trump in.

    What is even worse, the never Trumpers won’t even take the time to really find out why we back Trump. It is mostly because of this arrogant dis-interest of what we are all about why I place the never Trumpers lower than the commie MSM scum. They are all going to die if we win. War is coming. I don’t look forward to it, but commies like soros and his ilk will finally push us to the brink and we will arise and kill them all. We will remove the cancer from this country.

  89. Corvinus says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    “All clearly haven’t, as the example of MS-13 demonstrates. Now you are qualifying your previous assertion.”

    Clarifying, not qualifying.

    “Some may have assimilated, but others haven’t, and some are unlikely ever to assimilate.”

    No, ALL groups have assimilated.

    “How much better it would be not to permit them to enter to begin with.”

    The genie is out of the bottle, never to be put back in.

  90. @Thomm

    Thomm thomm thommm..

    You are drowning here. Calling some of the more erudite on this page illiterate, betrays your mongrel heritage. You haven’t changed any hearts or minds… but you HAVE reinforced the beliefs of some of us who pass through to monitor and measure the dialogue.

    Indian, mex, nigg… you need to up your game to play in the white man’s turf… where bouncing balls, leaping, cross checking and other skills from the jungle don’t advance a civilization … but breed more like YOU.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  91. @Them Guys

    Bless you for your efforts here. I don’t always have the energy for the fight in so many places. I am heartened to read thoughts that mirror my own.

    White Western Civilization is battling internal, external and enemies whose name cannot be spoken.

    If there is ONE positive from the loonie left embracing Islam …. it’s that the Jewish Question is no longer verboten in all places and at all times.

    At least we are free to speak – on most conservative threads… of the Jewish Peril That is the only gift from Allah..

    Every action force eventually produces a reaction force.

    Snuff em all … when the time is right. IT’s kill or be killed time … and for the moment, Islam is performing a very important function … if we can keep it contained, and sufficiently marginalized…

    The Bibi contingent sees the benefit of a temporary truce with White America…. they did enable the Trump phenomenon. Eerily quiet on the European invasion… which I believe in my heart is their invention to garner the enormous push back necessary at the Gates of Vienna

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  92. Thomm says:
    @gustafus21

    Your comment isn’t even literate. Basic grammar seems to be a concept above you.

    But the point stands – the US will never strip citizenship from anyone who is already a US citizen and has committed no crime.

    As a 70-IQ WN wigger, you are not smart enough to grasp that. You certainly have no concept of civilization. If 70-IQ WNs like you were given a country, you would quickly make it worse than Haiti.

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

  93. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm

    Much of the recent rise of China, India, etc. is specifically because we didn’t Hoover up all these high-achievers when we had the chance.

    Sorry but this is nonsense. These people were already well connected to the system back home and were probably already living a lifestyle higher than the average Americans they went to school with. In India they probably had servants chasing after them around the clock. The idea was always to come back home and run the family business or be part of a start-up that probably got a lot of government help.

    Every country has it extremely rich who don’t need or want to be Americans to go anywhere they want and do anything they want while still retaining their roots.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    , @Svigor
  94. Them Guys says:
    @gustafus21

    Thank you for your reply to me. Yes it sure does warm the heart when you find another who shares in so much of what your thoughts and true feelings are eh. And No Matter what happens those with true faith know which side wins at end game scenario time eh. It sure wont be all those combined groups that allow and do, wicked evilness perpetrated and run Mainly by all them jewey jews and ziojews.

    As far as when times right etc..Indeed I am a Very staunch supporter and defender of the 2nd amendt. as well as owner of a personal firearm and ammo collection that, shall we just say, is never large enough…But it is curranty likely enough Hardware to conquer a small sized Central American nation!

    I will need some assistance and comrade help if that too becomes necessary! heh heh heh.

  95. Svigor says:

    What were the historic blunders?

    CTRL-F [string "migr"]

    0 hits in article

    CTRL+W

    • Replies: @Thomm
  96. Thomm says:
    @MarkinLA

    Sorry but this is nonsense. These people were already well connected to the system back home and were probably already living a lifestyle higher than the average Americans they went to school with.

    I doubt it. The rich people in those countries have no reason to leave. The ones who come here are of a specific type – smart, driven, but not rich or well-connected in their original countries.

    We should have taken in their top talent and had them contribute to the US economy while we had the chance.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  97. MarkinLA says:
    @Thomm

    That’s right they have no reason to leave so them coming to the US is just to get their degrees from prestigious American colleges. This is a huge status symbol back home. Glad to see you agree with me.

    It is the mediocrities that come to the US who want to stay and be an H-1B.

  98. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    Swigger said :

    CTRL-F [string "migr"]

    Swigger could have used the whole word ‘immigraton’ or any other 4-letter string (like ‘mmig’ or ‘igra’) to achieve the same result, but instead specifically chose ‘migr’ out of all available choices.

    Why did Swigger do that?

    Well, because ‘migr’ rhymes with ‘wigger’ which rhymes with ‘Svigor’ (and thus ‘Swigger’).

    Freudian slips, particularly those that leak out of deformed minds like Swigger’s, are a sight to behold.

    ROLFL! My sides…my sides…

    Heh heh heh heh

  99. Svigor says:
    @Corvinus

    “You have not described what benefit, profit, or pleasure the admission of aliens previously excluded has given you.”

    I will repeat my answer again. The benefit of having WASPs proven clearly wrong that non-WASPs could not assimilate.

    Clearly, you are a moron. *flips Corvanus a quarter* here, have a bowl of pottage on me, dipshit.

  100. Svigor says:
    @MarkinLA

    Would you just let the WOG have his fap over the “rise of India” plz?

    Get off my lawn, faggot!

    Heh heh heh heh

    I love WOGs and their mixed metaphors, garbled idioms, and anime-driven tics.

    • Replies: @Thomm
  101. Thomm says:
    @Svigor

    Hey, Swigger, you are just butthurt over my comment #101. That was a pwnage so epic that you will sulk over it for years.

    Even funnier, you still think I am an Indian (but you can’t figure out that Corvinus, JohnnyWalker123 rec1man, and Talha are Indian). Somehow, Indians live in your head, forming an entire slum.

    Plus, as a Russian, why are you angry at Corvinus about WASPs? You are not a WASP, and don’t even know what one is.

    Heh heh heh heh …….my sides; my sides are a-splittin!

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