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In a surprise overtime victory in the finals of the Olympic men’s hockey tournament, the Russians defeated Germany, 4-3.

But the Russians were not permitted to have their national anthem played or flag raised, due to a past doping scandal. So, the team ignored the prohibition and sang out the Russian national anthem over the sounds of the Olympic anthem.

One recalls the scene in “Casablanca,” where French patrons of Rick’s saloon stood and loudly sang the “La Marseillaise” to drown out the “Die Wacht am Rhein” being sung by a table of German officers.

When the combined North-South Korean Olympic team entered the stadium, Vice President Mike Pence remained seated and silent. But tens of thousands of Koreans stood and cheered the unified team.

America may provide a defensive shield for the South, but Koreans on both sides of the DMZ see themselves as one people. And, no fool, Kim Jong Un is exploiting the deep tribal ties he knows are there.

Watching the Russians defiantly belt out their anthem, one recalls also the 1968 summer Olympics in Mexico City where sprinters Tommie Smith and John Carlos stood on the podium, black gloved fists thrust skyward in a Black Power salute, asserting their separate racial identity

Western elites may deplore the return of nationalism. But they had best not dismiss it, for assertions of national and tribal identity appear to be what the future is going to be all about.

Some attendees at the CPAC conclave this past week were appalled that Britain’s Nigel Farage and France’s Marion Le Pen were present.

But Farage was the man most responsible for Brexit, the historic British decision to leave the EU. Le Pen is perhaps the most popular figure in a National Front party that won 35 percent of the vote in the runoff election won by President Emmanuel Macron.

And the most unifying stand of the NF appears to be “Let France be France!” The French people do not want their country invaded by unassimilable millions of migrants from Africa and the Islamic world.

They want France to remain what she has been. Is this wrong?

Is preservation of a country, the national family one grew up in, not conservative?

In Hungary and Poland, ethnonationalism, the belief that nation-states are created and best suited to protect and defend a separate and unique people, with its separate and unique history and culture, is already ascendant.

Globalists may see the U.N., EU, NAFTA, TPP as stepping stones to a “universal nation” of all races, tribes, cultures and creeds. But growing numbers in every country, on every continent, reject this vision. And they are seeking to restore what their parents and grand-parents had, a nation-state that is all their own.

ORDER IT NOW

Nationalists like Farage, who seek to pull their countries out of socialist superstates like the EU, and peoples seeking to secede and set up new nations like Scotland, Catalonia, Corsica and Veneto today, and Quebec yesterday, are no more anti-conservative than the American patriots of Lexington and Concord who also wanted a country of their own.

Why are European peoples who wish to halt mass migration from across the Med, to preserve who and what they are, decried as racists?

Did not the peoples of African and Middle Eastern countries, half a century ago, expel the European settlers who helped to build those countries?

The Rhodesia of Spitfire pilot Ian Smith was a jewel of a nation of 250,000 whites and several million blacks that produced trade surpluses even when boycotted and sanctioned by a hating world.

When Smith was forced to yield power, “Comrade Bob” Mugabe took over and began the looting of white Rhodesians, and led his Shona tribesmen in a slaughter of the Matabele of rival Joshua Nkomo.

Eighty-five percent of the white folks who lived in Rhodesia, prior to “majority rule,” are gone from Zimbabwe. More than half of the white folks who made South Africa the most advanced and prosperous country on the continent are gone.
Are these countries better places than they were? For whom?

Looking back over this 21st century, the transnational elite that envisions the endless erosion of national sovereignty, and the coming of a new world order of open borders, free trade and global custody of mankind’s destiny, has triggered a counter-revolution.

Does anyone think Angela Merkel looks like the future?

Consider the largest countries on earth. In China, ethnonationalism, not the ruling Communist Party, unites and inspires 1.4 billion people to displace the Americans as the first power on earth.

Nationalism sustains Vladimir Putin. Nationalism and its unique identity as a Hindu nation unites and powers India.

Here, today, it is “America First” nationalism.

Indeed, now that George W. Bush’s crusade for democracy has ended up like Peter the Hermit’s Children’s Crusade, what is the vision, what is the historic goal our elites offer to inspire and enlist our people?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    It’s far more complicated. Scotland and Catalonia wanted to secede because they found their nations TOO CONSERVATIVE. Catalonia wanted to be independent to take in MORE immigrants. Scotland wanted independence to take in MORE immigrants and push diversity and leftism even more.

    At this point, I think France is too far gone. By some estimates, 70% of all births in Paris are to Africans and Muslims. And French women got serious junglois fever, and many new black babies are popping out of white wombs.

    Also, Korean nationalism is myth. Koreans are toadies of any great power. 80% of Koreans want to move to US or Canada and forever abandon their identity. Even though the current ‘leftist’ regime in SK is for better relations with NK, it is also for massive immigration and replacement of Koreans with foreigners. And 80% of Korean youth support Diversity since their US-trained teachers taught them so.

    I’m not sure what Buchanan means by including Rhodesia. Is he saying nationalism was justified in expelling whites? Or is he saying imperialism is better because whites ran a better nation?
    Now, of course, whites run things better than blacks whose economics 101 is ‘gibs me dat’. But if Buchanan’s argument is pro-nationalism, blacks had the right to kick out whites. If their economy sunk as a result, that’s their problem.

    One problem with black Africa is this. Even though Black African nationalism did expel European powers, can nationalism survive in black Africa without whites? After all, every African nation was made by whites. Without whites and their organization skills, black African tends to fracture into tribes, and warring tribes do no make a nation. So if imperialists are all gone from black Africa, how long can black African nationalism last among the various nations? Look at Congo. It’s hardly a nation. There’s hardly any central authority. It’s just a bunch of regions ruled by different tribes who are fighting all the time like chimpanzees in the jungle.

    It was Western imperialism that led to creation of African nations. But without Western imperialism, African nations might fall apart, and then, Africa will be composed of many competing tribes. If that’s the case, Africa will be easy to conquer once again by foreign powers since there won’t be any nationalism to serve as defense against imperialism.

    • Replies: @Randal
    , @KenH
    , @silviosilver
    , @Talha
  2. … what is the vision, what is the historic goal our elites offer to inspire and enlist our people?

    The globalists envision the earth as a plantation with oligarchs (stateless corporate monopolists) as planters, former national governments as overseers and the people of earth as niggers.

  3. They want France to remain what she has been. Is this wrong?

    Insofar as France has been a colonial power, the answer is, “yes.” Insofar as France has been a puppet of Israel, the answer is also, “yes.”It’s really sad when an historian of PB’s caliber seems to be either clueless or worse about what France has been.

    As far as the US being what she has been, the answer is also, “yes.”

    Why would anyone want the US to support an entity like the bloody USSR as it has done in the past? Why would anyone want to US to be a morally and fiscally bankrupt nation ruled by monsters and controlled by Zio-gangsters, as she has been, and is?

    The US has always been ruled or parasitized by corrupt, murderous psychopaths with the results we have to live with today. All corny rhetoric aside, it has never been a force for peace, justice, or freedom.

    Why would anyone desire it to remain what she has been?

    • Replies: @WorkingClass
  4. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Bit of a messay.

    Mr. Buchanan’s “vision for the future” is … what?

    And did Ian Smith spend much of his life as a “Spitfire pilot”? Is that how he came to Rhodesia?

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  5. Anonym says:

    Pretty much this, Pat. The future of white people rebounds inexorably towards ethnonationalism. Yes, there will be a boiling off into so much mystery meat of immigrants and whites who are attracted to that or end up with it, but a lot of those areas are Balkanized. Every white child that is born will have more genetic and/or cultural attraction to their own by default.

    The baby boomers who have ascended the heights of the institutions can’t take it with them. Their time is over. The time for those adults who have been able to make a realistic assessment of the world, now it’s not a whitopia any more, has come. They are emboldened by the s***posting of the internet, the audacity of Trump. There is a rebellious coolness in tearing down the PC edifice similar to the fun that could be had attacking Christianity and its holy cows back in the 20th century. The age of Blair, Merkel, Obama and Juncker is drawing to a close. The era of Xi and Putin has already been here a while, and now we have Trump and will have a cascade of similar leaders in the West in due course I believe.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  6. Randal says:

    peoples seeking to secede and set up new nations like Scotland, Catalonia, Corsica and Veneto today, and Quebec yesterday, are no more anti-conservative than the American patriots of Lexington and Concord who also wanted a country of their own.

    Well, yes and no. On the one hand, these people are in fact inherently anti-conservative in the most fundamental sense – they are radicals, seeking to overturn the existing order. On the other hand, where they are merely local elites seeking to formalise their own power and shrug off remote overseers, and don’t seek radical social change otherwise, then they are also conservative. That’s why the American Secession was not a revolution, merely a transfer of power from remote to local elites.

    Things are complicated further by supposed “nationalist” movements that are run by leftists – as in the case of Scotland or Catalonia. These are people who merely want to transfer control from the established state to a more distant superstate, the EU, and who are firmly committed to all the dogmas of leftism – internationalism, antiracism, open borders, social radicalism, and who are just as much dupes for globalist corporatism as any establishment pseudo-conservative.

    Nationalists supporting such people – any supposedly nationalist movement rooted on the political left – will simply be betrayed, as were the Greeks who voted for SYRIZA, the leftist supposedly “anti-establishment” party that carried its leaders into office and power and then transformed itself into a “respectable” party of the “centre left”, and ensured that the boat was not rocked in any ways that might really upset the EU/globalist elites.

    The war is between globalism and nationalism, the stakes are whether we continue on the path to one world corporatist government and culture – a place where there are no borders, there is no “outside”, and no escape from the crushing dogmas of political correctness, or step off before it’s too late. And the only true nationalism is the nationalism of the right. That will be true until parties of the old left – devoted to supporting indigenous workers and not to pushing social radicalism – reappear, if they ever do.

  7. Randal says:
    @Anon

    It’s far more complicated. Scotland and Catalonia wanted to secede because they found their nations TOO CONSERVATIVE. Catalonia wanted to be independent to take in MORE immigrants. Scotland wanted independence to take in MORE immigrants and push diversity and leftism even more.

    And they did not want independence, they wanted to transfer their subordination to a slightly more remote, more globalist supranational organisation, namely the developing superstate that is the EU.

    • Agree: BB753
  8. KenH says:
    @Anon

    And 80% of Korean youth support Diversity since their US-trained teachers taught them so.

    Considering growing numbers of S. Koreans want U.S. forces out of their nation and their highly restrictive immigration policy where’s the evidence that they’re becoming diversity loving social justice warriors?

  9. Mr. Hack says:

    Globalists may see the U.N., EU, NAFTA, TPP as stepping stones to a “universal nation” of all races, tribes, cultures and creeds. But growing numbers in every country, on every continent, reject this vision. And they are seeking to restore what their parents and grand-parents had, a nation-state that is all their own.’

    Right on Pat! So why your hypocritical stance towards Ukraine and its quest to separate itself from Russian imperial interests? Your inconsistencies are appalling!

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  10. The Eternal Lure of Nationalism

    No, it’s the eternal lure of family. As Sailer has noted, races/ethnicities are just extended families. Only sociopaths don’t care more for their family than strangers. Even with the most overarching propaganda – schools, media, government, etc. – in history pushing whites to forget this, we are slowly coming out of our slumber. Will we ever fully wake up and, if so, in time? Who knows.

    But I do know that our current society won’t last. Much like what’s going on in Africa, this system – based on the falsehood of racial equality – will slowly (then quickly) fall apart. Of course, the timeframe that I use is historic, not the timeframe that we use in our own lives. A hundred years is a nothing if you look over the past 5,000 years when human civilization began.

    Does anyone really believe that the current Cult of Equality system in W. Europe and the U.S. will still be around in 100 years, much less 200 years? No chance. Could it still be hanging on by a thread in 50 or 60 years – long after I’m dead? Quite possibly.

    However, we’re already seeing some cracks in the system after 50 years and things seem to be accelerating. What happens when Muslims start demanding Sharia law in parts of Paris or London? What happens when whites are no longer welcome in the Dem Party as we’re beginning to see at the top level? What happens when government debt reaches a level where the gov can’t borrow as much and must start cutting welfare spending? What happens when an increasingly black and brown Congress (and state houses) starts to demand much higher taxes on whites (and Asians) to support blacks and browns?

    Wanting to be ruled by your own people is natural – and good. Whites have been on top for 500 years and have forgotten what it’s like to have to fight for our place in the sun. As we start to get ruled by others year after year, that tribal instinct will grow. Will it grow fast enough that we survive? Again, who knows. I hope so.

    If not, well, natural selection is a bitch, isn’t it.

    • Replies: @expeedee
    , @Corvinus
  11. Tulip says:

    [W]hat is the historic goal our elites offer to inspire and enlist our people?

    I’m sure Max Boot has some ready ideas.

  12. @jacques sheete

    Should we give up these evil nation states for an evil global feudalism?

    I can understand a desire for more options. The anarchists have the best of it in my opinion when it comes to political ideology. But there is the real problem of security and survival for anarchists in a non anarchist world.

    From the point of view of globalists, nationalism is already a de-centralization of political power. I favor decentralization even if it will not take me all the way to a Jeffersonian agrarian utopia.

    Who said “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”?

  13. Rurik says:

    French people do not want their country invaded by unassimilable millions of migrants from Africa and the Islamic world.

    They want France to remain what she has been. Is this wrong?

    I guess six million wasn’t enough for Pat Buchanan

    anyone with a kippah’s worth of brains know that if France is allowed to remain French, then the gas chambers and soap factories are only a matter of time.

    let’s let ((Nicolas Sarkozy)) explain it to you all

    Nazis:

    must be forced to mix, if they don’t do so willingly, because if not, then you can just sit back and count the days until geysers of blood start shooting out of the ground again.

    we’ve all seen this kind of ‘will to power’ before, when people like the French (and Poles and Hungarians) think they can threaten others with their anti-Semitism by refusing to mix and blend their vile and evil white Nazi features and culture away.

    Never again!

  14. @Rurik

    Totally agree. If gentile whites aren’t breed out of existence, it’s just a matter of time before we see gas chambers in Ohio or Lincolnshire.

    Throughout Jewish history, non-Jewish whites inexplicably have shown an insanely irrational dislike of Jews. Since it emerges over and over, across time and regions, it must be some form of mental sickness inherent in gentile whites. There’s no other explanation. The only commonalty is gentile whites.

    No matter where Jews go, within a century or two, the local goys start to hate them to the point that Jews are often ejected from the area, sometimes attacked. Everywhere, every time. Jews, who just want to fit in and become a part of the community – no, to improve the community – are singled out for no reason again and again.

    Well, this must end. Even with their own homeland surrounded by a fence and protected by nuclear weapons, Jews will never be safe until gentile whites are no longer a race. What is the loss of the European peoples and their culture compared to the need to protect the Jewish people from the inevitable Holocaust II: Revenge of the Goys.

    Thankfully, the new breed – a mix of African, European, Mesitzo and whatever else – will be more enlightened.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Twodees Partain
  15. Randal says:

    Here’s an interesting example of modern nations trying to deal with the consequences of globalism in the context of the ruling political correctness dogmas:

    Denmark plans double punishment for ghetto crime

    Imagine trying that in the US! How’s that for some disparate impact, eh Obama?

    He denied that harsher penalties in one area could simply drive criminals into other areas.

    This seems a bit of a stretch really. I mean, it’s still got to be a good thing to harass ghetto thugs and petty criminal oafs on the turf they think is theirs, but there needs to be preparation for the inevitable spillover into more respectable areas. Unless you take the view that ghetto dweller crime spilling over more is a price worth paying because it will help to “wake up” the wealthy leftist classes who vote for more immigration and evade the costs.

  16. Rurik says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    it’s just a matter of time before we see gas chambers in Ohio or Lincolnshire.

    we already saw it in Charlottesville!

    the SS was goose stepping towards Sobibór redux, chanting Nazi propaganda about how ‘Jews will not replace us”

    have you ever heard anything so vile?!

    Of course Jews will replace you! because white people are congenitally EVIL!

    They don’t know their place, because jehovah put them here to SERVE the Jews!!! Yet they stubbornly refuse!

    and appoint a Nazi goyim to the Supreme Court!!!

    and a CIS at that!

    I’m sure glad you too can see what we’re up against as these neo-Nazis in France try to assert their inner Himmler, and avoid the Great Kosher Blending.

    Thankfully, the new breed – a mix of African, European, Mesitzo and whatever else – will be more enlightened.

    not unattractive, but more to the point, unconnected to any ethnic or cultural heritage.

    the perfect obedient slave race

    a doubleplus good improvement over the Nazis (all white people/anti-Semites)

    Never Again!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  17. @Anon

    Scotland wanted independence to take in MORE immigrants and push diversity and leftism even more.

    Scottish elites – in the form of the Scottish National Party – wanted that. But did Scottish voters? Or were they just voting for Scottish independence rather than for the policies of the SNP? Hard to tell.

    I’m not sure what Buchanan means by including Rhodesia. Is he saying nationalism was justified in expelling whites? Or is he saying imperialism is better because whites ran a better nation?

    I think he’s saying that white Rhodesians were the nation, and that they would have been justified in expelling the blacks if the blacks weren’t happy with their lot – rather than allowing the blacks to destroy ‘their’ country. This is a very old school WN viewpoint that, even among WNs, you don’t hear much of anymore, but Buchanan likes to make ambiguous and plausibly deniable statements like this. I mean, it’s very easy for him to backtrack and claim that he simply meant one of the options you outlined, but probably what he really believes is the version I put forward.

    Rhodesia’s a bit much, imo; there were just too few whites. You need to have Israeli-settler-like fanaticism to support whites’ keeping control of all that territory. I could have supported the South Africans sending the blacks to their own ‘homelands’ and then cutting off contact with them. That would have been a better long term solution than the segregation they tried to implement. You need a much larger majority – like the South has/had – to pull segregation off. Although, even then, apartheid could have last much longer than it did, if it wasn’t for pressure from other white countries.

  18. The Jews stole America on your watch Buchanan. You had your chance. You’re yesterday’s news. Still can’t name the Jew. Out to pasture.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  19. Nice article Pat, but as long as Jews control the US, it will continue serving as a doormat known as diversity.

  20. expeedee says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Very profound. Couldn’t agree more. Great post.

  21. KenH says:

    It’s not just nationalism that’s rising but racial nationalism or what some like to refer to as ethno-nationalism. No doubt those Russian hockey players were all ethnically Russian and their celebration was as much one of blood as of nation which in saner times are indivisible.

    black gloved fists thrust skyward in a Black Power salute, asserting their separate racial identity

    And it’s long past due that whites in America and throughout the Western world start to assert their separate racial identity and act accordingly. We are the only race of people that doesn’t act in its own racial interests and if that doesn’t change we won’t last this century.

    Raceless civil nationalism is a dead end for white people and it doesn’t resonate with anyone but brainless and brainwashed whites. Religion will always play second fiddle to race and ethnicity and it always will.

    Militant multiculturalism, the de facto secular religion of the West, must be overthrown by any means necessary along with its many mullahs in government, universities and the media.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Talha
  22. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “No, it’s the eternal lure of family. As Sailer has noted, races/ethnicities are just extended families.”

    No, races and ethnicities do NOT fit that description. It’s an appeal to authority.

    “But I do know that our current society won’t last.”

    No, you are only speculating here. No one knows for certain.

    “What happens when Muslims start demanding Sharia law in parts of Paris or London? What happens when whites are no longer welcome in the Dem Party as we’re beginning to see at the top level? What happens when government debt reaches a level where the gov can’t borrow as much and must start cutting welfare spending? What happens when an increasingly black and brown Congress (and state houses) starts to demand much higher taxes on whites (and Asians) to support blacks and browns?”

    Chicken Little.

    “Wanting to be ruled by your own people is natural – and good.”

    Our people are Americans.

    “Whites have been on top for 500 years and have forgotten what it’s like to have to fight for our place
    in the sun.”

    The human race is more important than whites or blacks or Asians.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    “Raceless civil nationalism is a dead end for white people and it doesn’t resonate with anyone but brainless and brainwashed whites.”

    White people make their own decisions regarding race and culture. What you are suggesting here is fascism.

    “Religion will always play second fiddle to race and ethnicity and it always will.”

    In reality, religion trumps race and ethnicity. A white Christian and a black Christian are equal in the eyes of the Lord.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  24. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “Of course Jews will replace you! because white people are congenitally EVIL!”

    Most white people do not believe in the Jewish conspiracy. You are an outlier.

    “not unattractive, but more to the point, unconnected to any ethnic or cultural heritage.”

    That would be Fake News. The mixing of races and ethnicities is part of our humanity. Besides, there are clear scientific benefits.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3146070/Mixed-race-relationships-making-taller-smarter-Children-born-genetically-diverse-parents-intelligent-ancestors.html

    • Replies: @Rurik
  25. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “Thankfully, the new breed – a mix of African, European, Mesitzo and whatever else – will be more enlightened.”

    Of course, though the new breed won’t be allowed in Israel.

  26. @anonymous

    Smith was a native of Rhodesia. The RAF trained pilots in Rhodesia.

  27. Talha says:
    @Anon

    And French women got serious junglois fever, and many new black babies are popping out of white wombs.

    Is this right? Anyone have stats? Is anyone keeping count?

    Even though Black African nationalism did expel European powers, can nationalism survive in black Africa without whites?

    Good point – no doubt the current borders have a lot to do with how lines were drawn by the retreating European powers.

    Without whites and their organization skills, black African tends to fracture into tribes, and warring tribes do no make a nation

    Possibly, but they did have the capability to organize into fairly large empires (depending on which part of Africa you are talking about. The capability to form an empire over a vast multi-ethnic, multi-religious landscape is certainly a stepping stone for the ability to form a modern nation-state (not that that is the goal).

    If things do fracture down and tribal alliances become preeminent, then expect the very large ethno-linguistic groups (like the Fulani and Hausa that number in the tens of millions) to form something that lies across many of the current borders.

    Peace.

  28. Talha says:
    @KenH

    Religion will always play second fiddle to race and ethnicity and it always will.

    That seems to be ahistorical when put in those absolute terms. Consider that Catholics and Protestants joined others apart from their own ethno-linguistic background to slaughter (what they considered) heretics of their own ethnicity. The current mess in the Middle East is also quite a bit related to religious fault-lines. Sunni and Shiah of various backgrounds are ganging up on each other.

    To take another example of a recent breakdown of civil law and slaughter (the Rwandan genocide). It was split; being Christian didn’t seem to matter to transcend ethnic fault lines, but being Muslim did:
    “Roman Catholicism has been the dominant faith in Rwanda for more than a century. But many people, disgusted by the role that some priests and nuns played in the killing frenzy, have shunned organized religion altogether, and many more have turned to Islam.
    ‘People died in my old church, and the pastor helped the killers,” said Yakobo Djuma Nzeyimana, 21, who became a Muslim in 1996. ‘I couldn’t go back and pray there. I had to find something else.’”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/world/since-94-horror-rwandans-turn-toward-islam.html

    As an imam from Rwanda explains, the Muslim Hutus and Tutsis have made their ethnic identity a lesser priority:
    “First, you have to remember that Muslims represent one of the only—perhaps the only—truly integrated community in Rwanda. What do I mean by this? I mean that most mothers of Muslims are Tutsis, and most fathers of Muslims are Hutus—let’s say something like 80 percent on each side. And while many Muslims share the appearance of Tutsis, we are really a mixed community. We are a community built by intermarriage.”

    https://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/interviews/a-discussion-with-sheikh-saleh-habimana-head-mufti-of-the-islamic-community-of-rwanda

    So I understand this attitude in places like Europe, but that’s because they don’t really take religion as seriously as they used to, which means that other priorities bubble up. If you observe other places in the world, ethnicity plays second fiddle.

    Peace.

    Note: By the way, sometimes people being scared of you can be quite helpful (from the above article):
    “You see, for many years Hutus had been taught to fear Muslims. They were scared of our mosques, so we could hide Tutsis there without fear of Hutus entering. Hutus had been taught that our mosques were houses of the devil. They were taught that the devil lived in Muslim homes, too. It went even further. It was also believed by many Hutus that if you shook the hand of a Muslim something bad would happen to you, maybe get sick, because Muslims were dirty people. So for all these reasons, Hutu militias were afraid of Muslims and left us alone for the most part. ”

    LOOOL!

    • Replies: @KenH
    , @KenH
  29. @Mr. Hack

    I don’t recall Pat ever saying that any Ukrianian oblasts that want to remain in Ukraine, should instead be forced to secede and join Russia.

    The people of Crimea solidly wanted to be part of Russia (again).

    That is true to a much lesser extent in parts of the Donbass region, apparently, but not true of any of the other oblasts.

    Would you let the people of the oblasts including Donetsk and Lugansk secede from Ukraine if they voted to do so?

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
  30. KenH says:
    @Talha

    Please provide an example of Catholics and Protestants joining ethnic others to slaughter heretics of their own race/etnicity so I can better respond.

    The current mess in the Middle East is also quite a bit related to religious fault-lines. Sunni and Shiah of various backgrounds are ganging up on each other.

    Without a doubt but what Muslims won’t admit is that there are also ethnic fault lines between Kurd, Arab, Turk and Persian. Turks, Kurds and Arabs are mostly Sunni yet Sunni Islam has not united them or fostered goodwill and they are savagely fighting each other. The enmity between Arab Muslim and Turkish Muslim goes back almost 1000 years.

    To take another example of a recent breakdown of civil law and slaughter (the Rwandan genocide). It was split; being Christian didn’t seem to matter to transcend ethnic fault lines, but being Muslim did:

    Partly proves my point that the Catholic faith of Hutu and Tutsi didn’t avert the inter-ethnic bloodshed nor was Catholic dogma sufficient to prevent the bloodletting. I don’t think I was aware that some turned to Islam which is arguably a much more militant, uncompromising and violent faith than Christianity or Catholicism. So any future conflicts involving that particular group are likely to be religious in nature.

    So I understand this attitude in places like Europe, but that’s because they don’t really take religion as seriously as they used to, which means that other priorities bubble up. If you observe other places in the world, ethnicity plays second fiddle.

    Be careful with that claim, because again it appears Hutu and Tutsi took Catholicism far more seriously than Europeans do but it did not transcend the ethnic hatred and tensions that existed.

    Iran takes religion seriously but it, too, is affected by ethnic tensions such that the CIA was inflaming ethnic minorities against the majority Persians in 2006 in an attempt to weaken the central government. Racial and ethnic diversity isn’t such a strength after all since a foreign government could easily foment racial unrest in America with it’s 40% no-white population.

    Afghanistan takes the Islamic religion very seriously (home of the Taliban) but Sunni Uzbeks and Tajiks loathe the Sunni Pashtuns and vice versa while the Pashtuns loathe the Shiite Hazeras. Islam has not melded the various ethnic groups into one polity nor has it fostered mutual affection between them.

    In America it’s been long known that Sunday Christian worship is a very racially segregated affair and Christianity and Catholicism has not melded its three dominant racial groups (white, black, Latino) into a cohesive group.

    Europeans took religion far more seriously during the WWI and WWII era (but less seriously than previous centuries) but that didn’t stop the mind boggling fratricide during the two world wars which may yet lead to the demise of Western Europe and the U.K. Ideology, nationality and ethnicity had greater pull and won the day.

    While there’s certainly outliers and exceptions I believe that the evidence shows that, generally speaking, ethno-nationalism trumps religion in most cases because it’s a force of nature that people must come to terms with instead of deny.

    • Replies: @Talha
  31. KenH says:
    @Talha

    So I understand this attitude in places like Europe, but that’s because they don’t really take religion as seriously as they used to, which means that other priorities bubble up.

    And don’t forget that Europeans took religion so seriously in the 17th century that it nearly wiped out 50% of Germany’s population during the Thirty Years War. I doubt ethnic conflict would have been any more bloody and brutal. Your Tamerlane took it so seriously that he’s responsible for murdering 17 million people.

    Note: By the way, sometimes people being scared of you can be quite helpful (from the above article):

    Not unlike a KKK member wearing a white sheet in the 19th century since blacks thought the mask wearer(s) were ghosts and would flee in terror and fear. They incurred the slur “spook” since they were so easily spooked by the sight of a white men wearing white sheets.

  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonym

    White people will be bred out and chased down. Within the next generation they will become functionally enslaved (we’re halfway there already). Our Overlords have seen to this by shifting our nation’s demographics in a decisive and irreversible way. Everything–everything–is being redefined such that if white people do it, it’s a crime, and if nonwhite people or chosenites do it, it’s a mitzvah. Your predictions? They are delusional–I say enjoy them!

  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    You may think you’re being clever, but haven’t you just copypasted one of Jack D’s posts?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  34. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Maple Curtain

    They stole America once they had grabbed the reins of the mass media, and that happened before Patrick came along. Since then it’s just been consolidation. PJB is one of the most courageous voices of our time and he’s paid a very high price professionally. Neither of these is true of his critics, yourself included.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  35. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    You keep forgetting to begin your silly screeds with the salutation:
    “Dear Fellow White People…”

  36. Mr. Hack says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Referendums, at the point of a Russian gun, as was done in Crimea aren’t truly an accurate meaure of anything.
    Would you feel that a referendum today, after somewhere in the vicinity of 3million people have left the Donbas, would likewise settle anything?

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  37. OoooooH that challenge again. Multiculturalism is not working, Zionist Globalists need a new trick.
    Rabbis are huddling.

  38. @Anonymous

    I’d bet on the bred out before I’d bet on the functionally enslaved. It’s hard to enslave a population that’s smarter and better-organized than your people. At the moment, whites are enslaving themselves. That’s very different than being enslaved.

    Gentile whites can free themselves at any moment – if we choose to. Will we? Good question. I don’t care if whites drop to 10% or 20% of the population; if that small minority found its racial/ethnic cohension and decided to push back as a group, it’d be functionally independent and free in a very short period of time.

    Whites are not blacks or mestizos. We are not being enslaved. (Jews are clever and certainly a major driving force behind much of what’s going on, but they aren’t omnipotent.) We have agency. A glitch in our DNA makes many whites ill suited for the current environment, ironically, an environment we created. This means that one of three things will happen. All whites will be absorbed by other groups better suited for this environment. Whites with the attributes to survive in this environment – the tribal whites – survive and prosper while other whites fade away. The environment changes.

    The future is not linear. You can’t just extrapolate today’s trends a hundred years out. Europe was 99%+ white a hundred years ago. Now, 10% to 15% of births are to non-whites with immigration continuing. North America was 100% native Indians 600 years ago. Now, they are only a couple of percentage points of the population.

    Things change. Momentum changes. I already hear whites laughing in public about being call a racist. Granted, they laugh because they believe that they are “color blind” and thus not racist, rather than being proud of being white. But let’s take this one step at a time. Indeed, my own child – truly unprompted – mentioned to me that she should be as proud of European ancestry and a black should be of their African ancestry.

    Things change.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Anonym
  39. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    Actually, it is addressed as “My dear humans”.

  40. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “At the moment, whites are enslaving themselves.”

    That is patently false. Whites are free to make their own decisions, and are only “enslaved” as individuals if their choices box them in, and they choose not get themselves out of their predicament.

    “I don’t care if whites drop to 10% or 20% of the population; if that small minority found its racial/ethnic cohension and decided to push back as a group, it’d be functionally independent and free in a very short period of time.”

    No, because that group would be enslaving the 80-90% of other white people. You neglect to consider that European whites themselves tend to lack cohesiveness due to their political or religious differences. You assume this minority group will be able to set aside their problems for the benefit of their “race”. Perhaps, but perhaps not.

    “A glitch in our DNA makes many whites ill suited for the current environment, ironically, an environment we created.”

    A false premise on your part.

    “Indeed, my own child – truly unprompted – mentioned to me that she should be as proud of European ancestry and a black should be of their African ancestry.”

    Yet she was programmed to make this remark, maybe without realizing it. No different than an SJW who have their own kids and indoctrinate them. You and them are one in the same in this regard.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Talha
  41. Talha says:
    @KenH

    Please provide an example of Catholics and Protestants joining ethnic others to slaughter heretics of their own race/etnicity so I can better respond.

    Not race, but certainly ethnicity. The slaughter in Germany that you described was (if I recall my history correctly) due to the Thirty Years War where various powers from outside what is now Germany were called in on one side or another; from as far as Sweden, Spain, even Scotland. Some states even sided with the Ottomans (though I think they did not put soldiers out in the field).

    I don’t really have a problem with your greater point that ethnicity/tribal identity is often at odds and in tension with religious identity and often wins out. I simply don’t see how one can make an absolutist claim that ethnicity always wins out since there are many historical exceptions to the rule.

    For instance you pointed to the tension among the various ethnic groups in Afghanistan. This is true, but religion also can help them transcend that divide, something that the Taliban have been pushing successfully as of late:
    “Ethnic Minorities Are Fueling the Taliban’s Expansion in Afghanistan: The Taliban is gaining dangerous leverage by recruiting Tajiks, Turkmen, and Uzbeks.”

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/15/ethnic-minorities-are-fueling-the-talibans-expansion-in-afghanistan/

    Of Islam and race, Arnold Toynbee (the very capable British historian) wrote:
    “The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding moral achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue; for, although the record of history would seem on the whole to show that race consciousness has been the exception and not the rule in the constant interbreeding of the human species, it is a fatality of the present situation that this consciousness is felt-and felt strongly-by the very peoples which, in the competition of the last four centuries between several Western powers, have won-at least for the moment-the lion’s share of the inheritance of the Earth.”

    Though Toynbee was being hyperbolic, it is a phenomenon that is quite real and caused someone like Malcolm X (ra) to completely re-evaluate his assumptions about White people after having gone to Hajj, writing:
    “During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug – while praying to the same God – with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana.”

    You are right about ethnic/tribal affiliation being part of the core of the human animal. It is, like sexuality and lust, embedded deep in the recesses of human consciousness. Just like a pack of wolves or a troop of chimpanzees will tear apart another group in competition for resources, we too have that innate animal instinct in us. But like sexuality, avarice or a whole host of human traits – the whole point of religion is to help us to; a) transcend them and b) point them to a useful purpose or keep them under control.

    We will never see ethnic identity or attraction to it completely wiped out (thank God), that is part of the beauty of the human project:
    “O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you nations and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most pious of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.” (49:13)

    However, religion is supposed to helps us to overcome the pathologies and extremes that can arise from it, same as from unchecked sexuality or other natural human tendencies. Of course, religion can be used to underwrite other pathologies as well. Well, the world is never perfect, eh? It’ll be interesting to see which way this goes.

    I think people will start to be more ethnocentric and identity-conscious for a while (Whites will jump in on this as Blacks and other minorities already do), but I simply don’t know how long that will last since that really doesn’t provide much in the way of long term transcendental purpose and seems really to be a temporary reaction to the way things have gone to the other extreme for the last few decades.

    I guess we’ll see.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @KenH
  42. Talha says:
    @Corvinus

    Hey Corvinus,

    Yet she was programmed to make this remark, maybe without realizing it.

    Not sure about this. It comes naturally to people and there is a side of it that is wrong (which takes it to extreme pride and arrogance) and a side which is natural and healthy.

    On twitter, I follow an African American Muslim scholar, Dr. (Shaykh) Abdullah Ali, who once wrote – in criticism of some of the SJW Muslim activists that like to call everyone racist:

    Can a White Man Be Proud of His People?

    Another area of concern related to Muslim activists is the push for cultural Marxist egalitarianism. It is not that one should be opposed to equal opportunity for all members of society. It is just that Islam promotes meritocracy rather than “sameness” and “equal representation” for the sake of equal “representation.” According to this cultural paradigm, it is “good” to celebrate and take pride in what is unique about one’s own culture. This seems the case, at least, for any person who is not “white.” White people, on the other hand, due to their historical domination of others are forbidden from publicly expressing pride about European civilizational contributions lest they be declared a racist or white supremacist. This concern is shared by nativists like Richard Spencer. But Spencer, however, regurgitates the pseudoscientific racist assumptions of the 19th century French aristocrat Arthur De Gobineau who pioneered the Aryan master race theory. Those blinkered notions aside, what legitimate wrong could be claimed about a white man or woman feeling pride about the achievements of their ancestors if it does not result in cultural domination?

    The question he ends with is a pertinent one; what is wrong with that, especially if everyone else is able to publicly do it and not be shamed. Why should we assume this is a sign of indoctrination and not something very natural and healthy. My kids are mixed heritage; I definitely want them to know and love their European side as much as their roots from the Indian subcontinent.

    Peace.

  43. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous

    what are you talking about?

    and who is Jack D?

    I just did a search of Jack D and it’s some fudge-packer

  44. @Mr. Hack

    Are you truly claiming that most people in Crimea didn’t want to rejoin Russia?

    • Replies: @Talha
  45. Talha says:
    @RadicalCenter

    Original Crimean War – as interpreted through Tom & Jerry:

  46. @Anonymous

    Corny’s not a bad guy. He has schtick – sort of a cross between “We’re all God’s children” and libertarianism – and he sticks to it. Whether he believes it or not, who knows.

    But he is disingenuous.

    There was a point in my career when I dealt a lot with lawyers from other companies about reasonably complex issues. After awhile, I could tell when a lawyer was doing their best to make things clearer to see if we could reach a deal and when a lawyer was trying to make things murky in hopes of cheating you out on something. Naturally, the DB lawyers would always argue that our side just wasn’t smart enough to understand their brillant proposition.

    It was just annoying. Everyone knew what was going on. I suppose that the DB lawyers felt that they needed to try, but it just ended up making everything take a lot longer than necessary.

    Corny most definitely falls in the DB lawyer camp. He deliberately obfuscates. If you tell him that an orange is the color orange, he’ll say that you can’t prove that because there are different shades of orange and thus the color orange doesn’t exist. It’s tedious and pointless.

    It’s a shame. I’d love to have someone who believes in multi-everything to discuss these issues with. I’ve changed my mind on a number of things over the years so maybe they could show me where I’m wrong. That’d be a fascinating dialogue.

    Sadly, that’s Corny is not that guy. He’s either a true believer or a very diligent (maybe paid?) troll. Either way, not of much use.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  47. MarkinLA says:
    @Anonymous

    There were opportunities to take it back but they weren’t taken and Pat was there then. The reason it isn’t written about much is because Pat would have to come to terms with who the real Nixon and Reagan were and Pat will never allow such thoughts into his head, let alone his writing.

  48. Arvind says: • Website

    Thanks for the comment on India! I’m trying to explore how the rise of nationalism fits into Indian identity in my blog. Long time fan.

    redpillindian.blogspot.com

  49. KenH says:
    @Talha

    where various powers from outside what is now Germany were called in on one side or another; from as far as Sweden, Spain, even Scotland.

    I think there was some of that but again during that time religion largely trumped ethnicity, so it really wouldn’t be looked upon as ethnic betrayal since a German Catholic was probably more likely to identify with a French or Scot Catholic instead of a German Protestant. France was mostly feudal territories while Germany was just a collection of city states so any nationalist and ethnic fervor was rather weak compared to centuries later.

    The formation of modern nations based on blood and language likeness and the slight wane of Christian religious ardor changed the dynamic centuries later.

    I simply don’t see how one can make an absolutist claim that ethnicity always wins out since there are many historical exceptions to the rule.

    Depends on the era but ethno-nationalism is winning the day in the 20th and 21st centuries. There are ethnic fault lines in the Islamic world and even though most Kurds are Muslim they still desire their own ethnically exclusive nation apart from Arab, Turkish and Persian Muslims.

    There’s certainly been oddities throughout history. For a brief period during the Muslim occupation the Spanish Christians and Muslim Moors temporarily allied against the Christian Franks who pillaged and plundered both groups until defeated by an alliance of the two.

    This is true, but religion also can help them transcend that divide, something that the Taliban have been pushing successfully as of late:

    Although prudent, time will tell if this is just part of a cynical and calculated grand strategy to eject the infidel American occupiers or a sincere attempt to unite the perpetually fractious and quarrelsome ethnic groups. Either way the tenuous unity derived therefrom will probably fall apart after the Americans leave which they will have to do some day or be forced to by the Taliban.

    Speaking for whites we must become more racially conscious if we are to survive as a unique people. With mass third world immigration we don’t have the luxury of being race neutral individualists anymore when the groups crashing into our nations are ethnic or religious tribalists or a combination thereof. True, we can’t be so prideful to the point of self worship and there needs to be a greater spiritual basis and purpose, but Abrahamic religion does not offer that, IMO. I think we will need to look elsewhere or develop something that better suits our unique needs, but I just don’t have an answer yet.

  50. Anonym says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    The future is not linear. You can’t just extrapolate today’s trends a hundred years out. Europe was 99%+ white a hundred years ago. Now, 10% to 15% of births are to non-whites with immigration continuing. North America was 100% native Indians 600 years ago. Now, they are only a couple of percentage points of the population.

    Exactly this. If you’d extrapolated from the early 1900s, you’d think there’d be no non-white people left. But our birth rates are not universal either. Pro-white people are having more than 2 children, just to spite the leftist orthodoxy. Genesis 26:4 vs Matthew 5:5, I’m betting on the OT. The new strain of Marxism Resistant White People (MRWP) is being created now as we speak.

  51. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “But he is disingenuous.”

    Actually, I am being sincere in my inquiries and positions.

    “Naturally, the DB lawyers would always argue that our side just wasn’t smart enough to understand their brillant proposition.”

    Looks like you are acting the manner that supposedly you disdain.

    “It’s a shame. I’d love to have someone who believes in multi-everything to discuss these issues with. I’ve changed my mind on a number of things over the years so maybe they could show me where I’m wrong. That’d be a fascinating dialogue.”

    You have been shown where you have been decidedly in error, whether it be factually or in your line of thinking, and yet you double or triple down.

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