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When Gen. Michael Flynn was forced to resign as national security adviser, Bill Kristol purred his satisfaction, “If it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.”

To Kristol, the permanent regime, not the elected president and his government, is the real defender and rightful repository of our liberties.

Yet it was this regime, the deep state, that carried out what Eli Lake of Bloomberg calls “The Political Assassination of Michael Flynn.”

And what were Flynn’s offenses?

In December, when Barack Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats, Flynn spoke to the Russian ambassador. He apparently counseled the envoy not to overreact, saying a new team would be in place in a few weeks and would review U.S.-Russian relations.

“That’s neither illegal nor improper,” writes Lake.

Vladimir Putin swiftly declared that there would be no reciprocal expulsions and U.S. diplomats and their families would be welcome at the Kremlin’s Christmas and New Year’s parties.

Diplomatic crisis averted. “Great move … (by V. Putin),” tweeted Trump, “I always knew he was very smart.”

But apparently, this did not sit well with the deep state.

For when Vice President Pence told a TV show that Flynn told him that sanctions did not come up in conversation with the Russian ambassador, a transcript of Flynn’s call was produced from recordings by intelligence agencies, and its contents leaked to The Washington Post.

After seeing the transcript, the White House concluded that Flynn had misled Pence, mutual trust was gone, and Flynn must go.

Like a good soldier, Flynn took the bullet.

The real crime here, however, is not that the incoming national security adviser spoke with a Russian diplomat seeking guidance on the future president’s thinking. The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career.

“This is what police states do,” writes Lake.

But the deep state is after larger game than General Flynn. It is out to bring down President Trump and abort any move to effect the sort of rapprochement with Russia that Ronald Reagan achieved.

For the deep state is deeply committed to Cold War II.

Hence, suddenly, we read reports of a Russian spy ship off the Connecticut, Delaware and Virginia coasts, of Russian jets buzzing a U.S. warship in the Black Sea, and Russian violations of Reagan’s INF treaty outlawing intermediate-range missiles in Europe.

Purpose: Stampede the White House into abandoning any idea of a detente with Russia. And it appears to be working. At a White House briefing Tuesday, Sean Spicer said, “President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to … return Crimea.”

Is the White House serious?

Putin could no more survive returning Crimea to Ukraine than Bibi Netanyahu could survive giving East Jerusalem back to Jordan.

How does the deep state go about its work? We have seen a classic example with Flynn. The intelligence and investigative arms of the regime dig up dirt, and then move it to their Fourth Estate collaborators, who enjoy First Amendment immunity to get it out.

For violating their oaths and breaking the law, bureaucratic saboteurs are hailed as “whistleblowers” while the journalists who receive the fruits of their felonies put in for Pulitzers.

Now if Russians hacked into the DNC and John Podesta’s computer during the campaign, and, more seriously, if Trump aides colluded in any such scheme, it should be investigated.

But we should not stop there. Those in the FBI, Justice Department and intelligence agencies who were complicit in a conspiracy to leak the contents of Flynn’s private conversations in order to bring down the national security adviser should be exposed and prosecuted.

An independent counsel should be appointed by the attorney general and a grand jury impaneled to investigate what Trump himself rightly calls “criminal” misconduct in the security agencies.

As for interfering in elections, how clean are our hands?

Our own CIA has a storied history of interfering in elections. In the late ’40s, we shoveled cash into France and Italy after World War II to defeat the Communists who had been part of the wartime resistance to the Nazis and Fascists.

And we succeeded. But we continued these practices after the Cold War ended. In this century, our National Endowment for Democracy, which dates to the Reagan era, has backed “color revolutions” and “regime change” in nations across what Russia regards as her “near abroad.”

NED’s continued existence appears a contradiction of Trump’s inaugural declaration: “We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone.”

The president and GOP should get out front here. Let Congress investigate Russia meddling in our election. And let a special prosecutor run down, root out, expose and indict those in the investigative and intel agencies who used their custody of America’s secrets, in collusion with press collaborators, to take down Trump appointees who are on their enemies lists.

Then put NED down.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

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  1. But what compromising information does the Deep State have on each and every congressman and Senator who would lead or participate in these invetigations? What dothey have on any special prosecutor appointed, and his or her staff? The normal processes of government may be totally ineffective when confronted by the enormous surveillance capacity of the modern state.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    It's not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.

    BTW when the Clinton's were in the White House they obtained this background info and made up dossiers on congressmen they wanted to influence. Totally illegal but they did it anyway. Who was to stop them? As Al Gore said, "there is no controlling legal authority".

    It's one of the reasons I suspect the GOP backed off on impeaching Slick and made Hillary untouchable by the GOP to this day.

    Go read Gary Aldrich "Unlimited Access".

    If any org was part of the Deep State it would be the FBI because they have the means and motive. And there is precedence for it from the days Hoover ran it as his personal empire and was untouchable by Congress.

    It wouldn't take much - just a couple dozen men and women in the right positions to access what is needed and give the proper orders to underlings. The rest of the agency would be oblivious to the deep state actors. That's the beauty of compartmentalization, on those at the top of the pyramid have the full picture while everyone else just have their bit they are working on.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    The problem that "Deep State" operators would have in using what they knew about Senators and Congressmen is that they would run the risk nearly evety time they tried to use it that it could blow up in their faces. Someone in the CIA could lose his job very easily if a Senator who hsd been cheating on his wife decided to get in early with an attack on the CIA for manufacturing evidence and spreading the story tbat he was having an affair. It would take chutzpah of course but Trump would be a model. There is some analogy with the use of Enigma intelligence during WW2: its only useable when no one outside knows where it comes from.
    , @annamaria
    A relevant repost from a comment section of TheDuran.com: http://theduran.com/fitting-iraq-wmd-war-criminal-tony-blair-campaigning-reverse-brexit-keep-uk-eu-clutches-video/
    "Great Britain today in three short stories:
    1. Mossad agents and The Friends of Israel in the UK have been deciding who should and should not be in the UK Parliament. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/israeli-spy-shai-masot-not-expelled/
    2. The whistleblower Assange hides (on trumped charges) at an Equatorial embassy, whereas the war criminal Blair shows up in the UK Parliament, freely.
    3. A UK-based "operative" has produced a soft-porno faux dossier re "Russian influence" on the US election process, and the UK press, including the presstituting Guardian, went to smear Trump, whereas the DOCUMENTED malicious plans of Mossad and Robert Halfon (ex- political director of Conservative Friends of Israel) against the UK sovereignty have been ignored by the UK Parliament."

    And here is one of the explanations to the power of the Deep State:
    http://thesaker.is/venezuela-washingtons-latest-defamation-to-bring-nato-to-south-america/
    "The system [monetary scheme] is entirely privatized by a small Zionist-led elite. FED, Wall Street, Bank for International Settlement (BIS), are all private institutions, largely controlled by the Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan et al clans. They are also supported by the Breton Woods Organizations, IMF and World Bank, conveniently created under the Charter of the UN."

    , @Arnieus
    Maybe it is time to offer blanket immunity to members of congress for past criminality if they get on the right side of this. Hey I'm grabbing at straws here.
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  2. This is an open war. Time to prosecute and strip the shadows that hide the deep state. Drill down and leave none standing.

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    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I said it right after the election: root and branch.

    The God-Emperor could have a million soldiers tomorrow, all he has to do is issue the call.
    , @Tabasco Jack
    I totally agree.
  3. The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    There has to be something else happening in the deep state or Rex would be the likely target instead.

    Apr 16, 2012 Exxon, Rosneft To Cement Historic Energy Deal

    On Monday, Exxon Mobil Corp and Rosneft launched a partnership allowing Exxon an access to Russia's arctic reserves and giving Rosneft an access to the North American projects. The companies said in a statement that the agreements form joint ventures to manage an exploration program in the Kara Sea and Black Sea, the initial cost for which is estimated over $3.2 billion.

    https://youtu.be/ndgYy7u1VY4
    , @Bobzilla

    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.
     
    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.
    , @Wally
    The Russian thing all stems from the fake news about Russia allegedly hacking Dems emails. The leftist Dems / media lied then, so now they must continue to lie, invent distracting tall tales.

    It's nothing more than Garbage In, Garbage Out. There is zero proof that the Russians did the hacking, so the rest is necessarily BS.

    And how is exposing Hillary's and the Dems shady behavior in those hacked emails a bad thing?

    The culprit did the country a huge service.

    Leftists want to distract from the actual contents of the emails.

    Guccifer debunks Russian 'hacking' nonsense as "Fake Evidence"
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-13/guccifer-20-emerges-slam-intelligence-communitys-fake-evidence
  4. @Diversity Heretic
    But what compromising information does the Deep State have on each and every congressman and Senator who would lead or participate in these invetigations? What dothey have on any special prosecutor appointed, and his or her staff? The normal processes of government may be totally ineffective when confronted by the enormous surveillance capacity of the modern state.

    It’s not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.

    BTW when the Clinton’s were in the White House they obtained this background info and made up dossiers on congressmen they wanted to influence. Totally illegal but they did it anyway. Who was to stop them? As Al Gore said, “there is no controlling legal authority”.

    It’s one of the reasons I suspect the GOP backed off on impeaching Slick and made Hillary untouchable by the GOP to this day.

    Go read Gary Aldrich “Unlimited Access”.

    If any org was part of the Deep State it would be the FBI because they have the means and motive. And there is precedence for it from the days Hoover ran it as his personal empire and was untouchable by Congress.

    It wouldn’t take much – just a couple dozen men and women in the right positions to access what is needed and give the proper orders to underlings. The rest of the agency would be oblivious to the deep state actors. That’s the beauty of compartmentalization, on those at the top of the pyramid have the full picture while everyone else just have their bit they are working on.

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    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    Indeed. And those at the top are far enough removed to allow them wiggle room i.e. "plausible denial" if confronted with questions. A borderline totalitarian scenario. After all, Hitler could accurately deny that he personally ordered the gassing of the Jews. And the only known "hit" ever ordered by Stalin was Sergei Kirov (with the other 19,999,999 merely assigned question marks).

    "There's something happening here/What it is ain't exactly clear"

    , @Anonymous

    It’s not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.
     
    No, there are no background investigations for federally-elected officials. They do backgrounds on federal appointments such as federal judges. Backgrounds below the appointment level, e.g., federal prosecutors, are done by OPM.
  5. National Endowment for Democracy must definitely go. There is no need for it. We don’t have any moral right to push democracy in other countries when we don’t even respect it in our own.

    One of Obama’s last executive order was to allow NSA to share the intelligence they have with any other intelligence agency. Apparently, that was done in the case of Gen. Flynn. President Trump should cancel that executive order with one of his own.

    Hopefully, by now President Trump should realize what he is up against. He has an uphill task. He should not react to the efforts of the deep state but follow his own instincts. That is what got him here. If he is going to govern by reacting to deep state then he has already lost the battle.

    As President Trump has said so many times that it is better to have friendly relations with Russia. He should continue to pursue those efforts. The opposition has already tasted blood. They will not stop there. They will be looking for more targets until they get the ultimate target, i.e. Trump himself.

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    • Replies: @Z-man
    The power of the Cabal runs 'deep'.
    Yes Trump should have America and Russia be friendlier. Should kick Zionists/Neocons out of government and drain the swamp. But that's a tall order when pushing against the CABAL.
    , @Eagle Eye

    One of Obama’s last executive order was to allow NSA to share the intelligence they have with any other intelligence agency. Apparently, that was done in the case of Gen. Flynn. President Trump should cancel that executive order with one of his own.
     
    Hugely important point. Thank you for sharing this.

    Team Trump please note, and ACT NOW.
  6. @Diversity Heretic
    But what compromising information does the Deep State have on each and every congressman and Senator who would lead or participate in these invetigations? What dothey have on any special prosecutor appointed, and his or her staff? The normal processes of government may be totally ineffective when confronted by the enormous surveillance capacity of the modern state.

    The problem that “Deep State” operators would have in using what they knew about Senators and Congressmen is that they would run the risk nearly evety time they tried to use it that it could blow up in their faces. Someone in the CIA could lose his job very easily if a Senator who hsd been cheating on his wife decided to get in early with an attack on the CIA for manufacturing evidence and spreading the story tbat he was having an affair. It would take chutzpah of course but Trump would be a model. There is some analogy with the use of Enigma intelligence during WW2: its only useable when no one outside knows where it comes from.

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    • Replies: @Bill
    OK. How many people do you predict will lose their jobs over the subject of this article? I mean other than the victim, Flynn? I predict zero.
  7. Why does Donald Trump target Christian Russia over Crimea?

    Let them overthrow Trump…it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US. I don’t see any downsides to this.

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    • Replies: @nickels
    Mass starvation is the worst part of civil war.
    I like my cats, I don't want to be faced with the temptation to eat them.
    , @Pachyderm Pachyderma
    Those plotting the 'overthrow' would do so at their own peril... A civil war in the USA would mean civil wars across the globe as each nation would take advantage of the missing American leadership to rid of their unwanted. Wish not, want not!
  8. I think cleaning out the Augean stables was a far easier task than cleaning out the Deep State. It didn’t go well for Kennedy. I wish Trump every success.

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  9. Then put NED down.

    Shutting down NED would certainly be a strong, positive signal that the US’s embrace of its aggressive, destabilising, universalist ideology might be coming to an end, but I’m not sure the President can shut it down, can he?

    Congress could cut off its funding, but that seems highly unlikely to occur – far too many globalist traitors in the ranks of Senate and Congressional Republicans to get any such measure through.

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    • Replies: @Che Guava
    I don't think anybody can shut them down (it's a little like the CDS, they are the centres for ... ), the NED is double headed, and represents the ludicrous two-party, one aim polity, i.e., the worst.

    The correct term would be NEDs,, there is a Republican one and a Democrat one. Both are very nasty, and far from democratic, although I'd give the high score for screwing other places up to the Democrat's version, at least since cigar-dildo Bill.

    It is surprising to me, at times, that knowledgable USA people are not knowing or refusing to seeing that the NED is really the NEDs, there are two.

    Then put NED down.
     
    Well said. Mr. Buchanan. Except, I would saying, put them both down,

    They even are having different names, although I am not recalling them at the moment.

    By the way, you know that I am an admirer of your thoughts, my pointing out that there are two NEDs (or NEsD) was before close reading of your article, but people should know that it has two heads.
  10. Those in the FBI, Justice Department and intelligence agencies who were complicit in a conspiracy to leak the contents of Flynn’s private conversations in order to bring down the national security adviser should be exposed and prosecuted.

    If there is a Gawd, then that’ll happen.

    However, I don’t think there is one with the cojones to do that, and even if there is one, I’m not holding my breath, either.

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    • Replies: @Veritatis
    An old spanish proverb: "God says help yourself that I will help you." Free will.
  11. Trump has already committed war crimes in Yemen…and he threatens Christian Russia over Crimea every day……is the twerp Paul Kersey aware of this?

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  12. Ivanka Trump-Kushner and Jared Kushner shit on gold-plated toilet bowls in Trump Tower…

    While…..

    Native Born White American Working Class Teenage Males….

    Serve as canon fodder for Ivanka Trump-Kushner-Jared KUSHNER’S Greater Israel..

    Alt Right Gay Boys Richard Spencer and Paul Kersey pine for Emperor Barron…

    I mean..it’s really f……g disgusting….

    Dear Pat…….I hope you let this comment through with no delay…for it is the GD truth!!!…the canon fodder issue has just come up again in my family…again…very serious….scares me to death……F the Alt Right Fags and their Emperor Trump……I am mighty pissed at the moment..

    I would have prefered POTUS RON PAUL

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    • Replies: @Stonehands
    Ron Paul is a good guy, but he didn't have any sort of actual manly swagger- to beat down the fag press -for starters.

    Of course, watching Trump torture the lugenpresse is worth the price of admission...

    ...And if the police -state succeeds in deposing Trump, [Bonus!] then we can finally have at it!

    P.S. - Why does anyone EVER sign up for banker wars?

    The Bill of Rights is continually threatened by the Federal police-state.
    , @prusmc
    Blair mountain: what is the source of your assertion that Paul Kersey and Richard Spenser are homosexuals? Inquiring minds wsnt to know.
  13. @Wizard of Oz
    The problem that "Deep State" operators would have in using what they knew about Senators and Congressmen is that they would run the risk nearly evety time they tried to use it that it could blow up in their faces. Someone in the CIA could lose his job very easily if a Senator who hsd been cheating on his wife decided to get in early with an attack on the CIA for manufacturing evidence and spreading the story tbat he was having an affair. It would take chutzpah of course but Trump would be a model. There is some analogy with the use of Enigma intelligence during WW2: its only useable when no one outside knows where it comes from.

    OK. How many people do you predict will lose their jobs over the subject of this article? I mean other than the victim, Flynn? I predict zero.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    It will be interesting to see (assuming we can see). It would be very encouraging if at least a couple of FBI or CIA people not only lost their jobs but were prosecuted. Maybe scapegoats who had other problems would be found if Trump applied pressure through his new heads of agencies.
  14. @War for Blair Mountain
    Why does Donald Trump target Christian Russia over Crimea?

    Let them overthrow Trump...it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US. I don't see any downsides to this.

    Mass starvation is the worst part of civil war.
    I like my cats, I don’t want to be faced with the temptation to eat them.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Nickels

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    Some things are worth fighting for and dying for...I'm mentally ready for it...the basement of the US has been filled to the brim with Racial gasoline since 1965....one match away....
  15. @Rod1963
    It's not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.

    BTW when the Clinton's were in the White House they obtained this background info and made up dossiers on congressmen they wanted to influence. Totally illegal but they did it anyway. Who was to stop them? As Al Gore said, "there is no controlling legal authority".

    It's one of the reasons I suspect the GOP backed off on impeaching Slick and made Hillary untouchable by the GOP to this day.

    Go read Gary Aldrich "Unlimited Access".

    If any org was part of the Deep State it would be the FBI because they have the means and motive. And there is precedence for it from the days Hoover ran it as his personal empire and was untouchable by Congress.

    It wouldn't take much - just a couple dozen men and women in the right positions to access what is needed and give the proper orders to underlings. The rest of the agency would be oblivious to the deep state actors. That's the beauty of compartmentalization, on those at the top of the pyramid have the full picture while everyone else just have their bit they are working on.

    Indeed. And those at the top are far enough removed to allow them wiggle room i.e. “plausible denial” if confronted with questions. A borderline totalitarian scenario. After all, Hitler could accurately deny that he personally ordered the gassing of the Jews. And the only known “hit” ever ordered by Stalin was Sergei Kirov (with the other 19,999,999 merely assigned question marks).

    “There’s something happening here/What it is ain’t exactly clear”

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  16. @jacques sheete

    Those in the FBI, Justice Department and intelligence agencies who were complicit in a conspiracy to leak the contents of Flynn’s private conversations in order to bring down the national security adviser should be exposed and prosecuted.
     
    If there is a Gawd, then that'll happen.

    However, I don't think there is one with the cojones to do that, and even if there is one, I'm not holding my breath, either.

    An old spanish proverb: “God says help yourself that I will help you.” Free will.

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  17. My local state university–for Chrissake!– has engaged in institutionally motivated police surveillance, hacking of employee computers, falsification of employee records, attempted blackmail, and on. I know this to a 100% certainty, or, at the very least, to a high degree of certainty. Rod1963 is right: “Who [is] to stop them?”

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  18. @nickels
    Mass starvation is the worst part of civil war.
    I like my cats, I don't want to be faced with the temptation to eat them.

    Nickels

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    Some things are worth fighting for and dying for…I’m mentally ready for it…the basement of the US has been filled to the brim with Racial gasoline since 1965….one match away….

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    • Replies: @nickels
    I don't disagree.

    But lets hope it goes a different way, such a thing would be quite horrible.

    And the criminal elements tend to rise to the top after these kind of events.
    , @David Davenport
    Let them overthrow Trump…it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US.

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    War for Blair Mt.:

    You need to try to improve your English language fluency. I notice that a number of foreigners, probably Muzzims, have started posting at iSteve recently.

    And aren't you semi-stealing the identity of another poster who goes by "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"?
  19. I only know of the Dutch prime-minister Lubbers who shut down our (tiny) foreign intelligence office in the 90′s because it was such a mess.

    Trump would likely be killed before he signed the order to shut down CIA . But something like it has to be done.
    Kick ‘m all out, save 70 billion a year and have the spy and torture-guys build that wall with Mexico. Brick by brick. They will actually do more for their country that way.

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    • Agree: Miro23
    • Replies: @Stonehands
    Kick ‘m all out, save 70 billion a year and have the spy and torture-guys build that wall with Mexico


    This!

    If Trump won't do it, it is up to us-to rise up- and kick their asses into Hell.
  20. The Deep State skunks who mismanage the American Empire are attacking President Trump. There must be a response from the Trump administration that sets a tone for the future.

    Andrew Jackson had the answer to the Deep State traitors who are attempting to destroy the sovereignty of the Unite States. The answer is the spoils system. President Trump must begin mass firings of all government workers who presume to be the power in the United States.

    FIRE THOSE DEEP STATE BASTARDS — DAMMIT!

    Fire every damn one of those treasonous rats. Don’t stop firing until that Rome on the Potomac is damn near close to depopulated. Do it!

    The Deep State skunks attacking President Trump are the same treasonous rats who push nation-wrecking open borders mass immigration and multicultural mayhem. They are the same Deep State skunks who push open borders free trade and transnationalism. They are the same Deep State skunks who push unnecessary wars and endless overseas imperial garrisoning.

    Fire those Deep State skunks! Remove those evil, treasonous Deep State government worker rats who want to destroy the United States as a sovereign nation-state.

    The Deep State is trying to kill President Trump, but President Trump shall kill it.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

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    • Agree: Z-man
    • Replies: @Anon

    President Trump must begin mass firings of all government workers who presume to be the power in the United States.
     
    ...aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday.
    Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed.
    These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy.
    There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats.


    https://archive.is/6MQmO
  21. @MEexpert
    National Endowment for Democracy must definitely go. There is no need for it. We don't have any moral right to push democracy in other countries when we don't even respect it in our own.

    One of Obama's last executive order was to allow NSA to share the intelligence they have with any other intelligence agency. Apparently, that was done in the case of Gen. Flynn. President Trump should cancel that executive order with one of his own.

    Hopefully, by now President Trump should realize what he is up against. He has an uphill task. He should not react to the efforts of the deep state but follow his own instincts. That is what got him here. If he is going to govern by reacting to deep state then he has already lost the battle.

    As President Trump has said so many times that it is better to have friendly relations with Russia. He should continue to pursue those efforts. The opposition has already tasted blood. They will not stop there. They will be looking for more targets until they get the ultimate target, i.e. Trump himself.

    The power of the Cabal runs ‘deep’.
    Yes Trump should have America and Russia be friendlier. Should kick Zionists/Neocons out of government and drain the swamp. But that’s a tall order when pushing against the CABAL.

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  22. The deep state has shown its hand; this crisis will turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

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  23. Bill Kristol purred his satisfaction, “If it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state.”

    To Kristol, the permanent regime, not the elected president and his government, is the real defender and rightful repository of our liberties.

    wry:

    1.using or expressing dry, especially mocking, humor:

    “a wry smile” ·

    synonyms: sardonic · satirical · mocking · sarcastic · dry

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  24. Trump is facing the furor of the neo-cons that have been frustated by 8 years of Obama and the loss of their agent Hillary Clinton. The democrats and the neo-cons have now a common cause, it is to break Trump.
    They know the ropes and have strong allies in the media and in the intelligence to reach their goal. They are hitting hard and it is only the beginning. Trump and his team are amateur politicians, but they are smart and they have the support of half of the americans. Will they be able to set up a counterattack strategy soon enough before they are overwhelmed by more insidious plots?

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  25. Are you guys kidding? the USA has already been destroyed by the so called globalist military banking complex. They just don’t want to be discommoded by any attempts to resurrect the USA. The deep state is another shell to lend the scheme an aura of being respectably American. Counting up the national origins of the tycoons is meaningless: the gene pool has always produced those who think they are or should be the masters of the universe, along with simpletons who sucker for the various bait and switch schemes known variously as consumerism, patriotism, and liberalism etc. that sucker us into endless scorpions in a bottle conflicts. If and when this compulsion blows up in their face, as it often has, , they plan to board their Gulfstreams or their yacht and go sailing off to some well guarded citadel until the smoke clears. “They must be putting something in the drugs again.”

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  26. Every patriotic American should support president Trump 100%.

    Long live president Trump!

    We all are behind you!

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Does this include POTUS Trump enthusiastically giving military aid to Saudia Arabia which funds ISIS...?

    Does this include the US Military's illegal occupation of Syria?


    Does this include POTUS Trump's daily threats against Christian Russia over Crimea?

  27. @War for Blair Mountain
    Nickels

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    Some things are worth fighting for and dying for...I'm mentally ready for it...the basement of the US has been filled to the brim with Racial gasoline since 1965....one match away....

    I don’t disagree.

    But lets hope it goes a different way, such a thing would be quite horrible.

    And the criminal elements tend to rise to the top after these kind of events.

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  28. @Randal

    Then put NED down.
     
    Shutting down NED would certainly be a strong, positive signal that the US's embrace of its aggressive, destabilising, universalist ideology might be coming to an end, but I'm not sure the President can shut it down, can he?

    Congress could cut off its funding, but that seems highly unlikely to occur - far too many globalist traitors in the ranks of Senate and Congressional Republicans to get any such measure through.

    I don’t think anybody can shut them down (it’s a little like the CDS, they are the centres for … ), the NED is double headed, and represents the ludicrous two-party, one aim polity, i.e., the worst.

    The correct term would be NEDs,, there is a Republican one and a Democrat one. Both are very nasty, and far from democratic, although I’d give the high score for screwing other places up to the Democrat’s version, at least since cigar-dildo Bill.

    It is surprising to me, at times, that knowledgable USA people are not knowing or refusing to seeing that the NED is really the NEDs, there are two.

    Then put NED down.

    Well said. Mr. Buchanan. Except, I would saying, put them both down,

    They even are having different names, although I am not recalling them at the moment.

    By the way, you know that I am an admirer of your thoughts, my pointing out that there are two NEDs (or NEsD) was before close reading of your article, but people should know that it has two heads.

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  29. @Diversity Heretic
    But what compromising information does the Deep State have on each and every congressman and Senator who would lead or participate in these invetigations? What dothey have on any special prosecutor appointed, and his or her staff? The normal processes of government may be totally ineffective when confronted by the enormous surveillance capacity of the modern state.

    A relevant repost from a comment section of TheDuran.com: http://theduran.com/fitting-iraq-wmd-war-criminal-tony-blair-campaigning-reverse-brexit-keep-uk-eu-clutches-video/
    “Great Britain today in three short stories:
    1. Mossad agents and The Friends of Israel in the UK have been deciding who should and should not be in the UK Parliament. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/israeli-spy-shai-masot-not-expelled/
    2. The whistleblower Assange hides (on trumped charges) at an Equatorial embassy, whereas the war criminal Blair shows up in the UK Parliament, freely.
    3. A UK-based “operative” has produced a soft-porno faux dossier re “Russian influence” on the US election process, and the UK press, including the presstituting Guardian, went to smear Trump, whereas the DOCUMENTED malicious plans of Mossad and Robert Halfon (ex- political director of Conservative Friends of Israel) against the UK sovereignty have been ignored by the UK Parliament.”

    And here is one of the explanations to the power of the Deep State:

    http://thesaker.is/venezuela-washingtons-latest-defamation-to-bring-nato-to-south-america/

    “The system [monetary scheme] is entirely privatized by a small Zionist-led elite. FED, Wall Street, Bank for International Settlement (BIS), are all private institutions, largely controlled by the Rothschild, Rockefeller, Morgan et al clans. They are also supported by the Breton Woods Organizations, IMF and World Bank, conveniently created under the Charter of the UN.”

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  30. @Thales the Milesian
    Every patriotic American should support president Trump 100%.

    Long live president Trump!

    We all are behind you!

    Does this include POTUS Trump enthusiastically giving military aid to Saudia Arabia which funds ISIS…?

    Does this include the US Military’s illegal occupation of Syria?

    Does this include POTUS Trump’s daily threats against Christian Russia over Crimea?

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  31. Wait until Trump has his entire cabinet in place especially his new leadership up and running at the NSA. There will be mass terminations, loss of pensions and possible criminal charges and jail time awaiting the law breakers. The Obama hold overs in the “National Security” deep state are the walking dead.

    The last president to confront the 3 letter agencies with success was Eisenhower, get the popcorn ready and watch Trump dismantle these over rated secret handshake skull and bones flea bags.

    PS – my instinct tells me John Songbird McCain is on the last lap of his Tokyo Rose tour of duty.

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    • Replies: @El Dato

    The last president to confront the 3 letter agencies with success was Eisenhower
     
    Some success.

    You don't warn the country about The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Complex in your parting speech if things are under control.

    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
     
  32. Feb 3, 2017 How Trump Filled The Swamp

    With promises to “drain the swamp!” still ringing in our ears, we have watched Trump appoint nothing but Goldman banksters, Soros stooges, neocon war hawks and police state zealots to head his cabinet.

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  33. @Carlton Meyer
    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxSwH8B31w

    There has to be something else happening in the deep state or Rex would be the likely target instead.

    Apr 16, 2012 Exxon, Rosneft To Cement Historic Energy Deal

    On Monday, Exxon Mobil Corp and Rosneft launched a partnership allowing Exxon an access to Russia’s arctic reserves and giving Rosneft an access to the North American projects. The companies said in a statement that the agreements form joint ventures to manage an exploration program in the Kara Sea and Black Sea, the initial cost for which is estimated over $3.2 billion.

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  34. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Rod1963
    It's not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.

    BTW when the Clinton's were in the White House they obtained this background info and made up dossiers on congressmen they wanted to influence. Totally illegal but they did it anyway. Who was to stop them? As Al Gore said, "there is no controlling legal authority".

    It's one of the reasons I suspect the GOP backed off on impeaching Slick and made Hillary untouchable by the GOP to this day.

    Go read Gary Aldrich "Unlimited Access".

    If any org was part of the Deep State it would be the FBI because they have the means and motive. And there is precedence for it from the days Hoover ran it as his personal empire and was untouchable by Congress.

    It wouldn't take much - just a couple dozen men and women in the right positions to access what is needed and give the proper orders to underlings. The rest of the agency would be oblivious to the deep state actors. That's the beauty of compartmentalization, on those at the top of the pyramid have the full picture while everyone else just have their bit they are working on.

    It’s not the deep state that has dirt on the congresspukes but the FBI that does background checks on all the members of Congress. In fact there are a set of laws pertaining to the dissemination of this information because much of it is blackmail level material.

    No, there are no background investigations for federally-elected officials. They do backgrounds on federal appointments such as federal judges. Backgrounds below the appointment level, e.g., federal prosecutors, are done by OPM.

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  35. How shameful…juvenile treasonous behavior by a bunch of unpatriotic and politically immature individuals that should be ashamed to call themselves Americans…God help us all

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  36. Hardly surprising that the zionists would use their assets (CIA, NSA etc.) to wreak havoc with Trump. They made their intentions clear some time ago.

    What is really depressing is that Trump played along and didn’t tell the bastards to shove it. Flynn deserved, at most, a good tongue lashing, not the political gallows.

    There will be more political assassinations to come. The zionists are on a roll. How Trump handles them will tell us, clearly, whose side he’s really on.

    But as of now, one BIG negative for Trump as Mike King would say.

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  37. Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts…

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump’s national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn’s false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

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    Here are the facts…

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president.
     

    That's not a 'fact". There is zero evidence indicating that Russia "interfered" with the US Presidential election.

    The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia
     

    Speculation? What happened to your "facts"?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests ...?
     
    The Deep State has no right to exist, let alone to look out for its interests. Its existence is flatly illegal and unconstitutional.
    , @KenH

    Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president.
     
    That's not a fact. That's called fake news and you fell for it as did all supporters of Hildabeast.

    The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary.
     
    Operative word here is speculation. The FBI has the full transcript of the call and have said there was no violation of the Logan Act or any other illegality. FOX News and even some left leaning outlets have reported the same thing.

    Nobody knows whether Flynn lied or misled VP Pence or simply omitted some details because he doesn't fully trust him. Washington is a strange place full of petty rivalries and mistrust.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?
     
    No, there is no provision in the Constitution for an unelected deep state to work on behalf of special interest groups at the expense of the will and interests of the citizenry. You just dreamed that one up. Trump is looking out for the national interests unlike the previous occupant.
    , @neutral

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?
     
    Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore.
    , @Stonehands

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

     

    What!?

    Did you eat a great big bowl of dumbflakes for breakfast?
    , @Anon

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?
     
    You are absolutely right, and I don't even understand the meaning of "Deep State" in this context. Isn't this precisely what the FBI/CIA/NSA etc. supposed to do? Protect the nation from the machinations of Russia which would've certainly blackmailed a compromised head of the agency? I am looking at the comments of the geniuses on this section, shaking my head in disbelief at their monumental stupidity in thinking of Putin as a fast friend. Even if one believes that we should have friendlier relations with Russia, which I do, it is naivete of the most transparent variety to think that Putin would simply forget Russia's history with the West, especially the USA and carry on as if the slate is clean!! He will look for every advantage !!
  38. Kristol is taking liberties with our freedoms, not defending them. The neocon has always and everywhere been the enemy of democracy and accountability.

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    Fifth Column Snakes; Trotskyists; Dirty ____s!
  39. Flynn had the right idea but I am hoping that Kelly Ayotte is brought into the cabinet.she is the missing piece of the puzzle.she will help trump beat the jinx that is plaguing his strategy.

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    • Replies: @Minnesota Mary
    Kelly Ayotte was one of the "Three Amigos" replacing Joe Lieberman. She is not to be trusted just as her pals McCain and Graham are not to be trusted.
  40. @TWS
    This is an open war. Time to prosecute and strip the shadows that hide the deep state. Drill down and leave none standing.

    I said it right after the election: root and branch.

    The God-Emperor could have a million soldiers tomorrow, all he has to do is issue the call.

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  41. I had mentioned this before in a comment on this site, but it seems to retain an enduring relevance:

    The most significant political event of the 1970s – enduring even today – is that Nixon won 49 states out of 50 (the outlier being Teddy K’s Massachusetts, by amazing coincidence) in the 1972 election. In that election George McGovern had announced to the nation that the Democratic Party had an agenda that was going to erect the 1960s into a Plan and that it was for just about everything that was ‘new’ and would bring ‘change’. The nation’s voters rejected that Plan and that agenda 49 states to 1.

    What is of enduring relevance is what happened next: a synergy of i) revolutionary non-politics and ii) a media now far more taken with making news rather than reporting it then determined in best anti-political and revolutionary style that Nixon’s election and the democratically-expressed choice of the People had to be nullified. (Readers may consult Jonah Goldberg’s 2007 book “Liberal Fascism” where he points out that Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Progressivism are all historical crib-siblings, sharing the common genetic tendency to a) insist upon governance by those elites who ‘know’ and b) willing to impose hell, terror and obloquy on anyone who disagrees.)

    Thus Watergate, fueled not by great investigative reporting but merely by a well-placed leaker: the Democrats and assorted fellow-travelers or useful-idiots – apparently forgetting the actual profound moral failings of their war in Vietnam and their paragon Teddy’s lethal misadventure at Chappaquiddick – were “shocked, shocked to hear that” … Nixon had tried what LBJ had tried against JFK in the run-up to the 1960 election and that he then tried to cover it up. Compared to the anti-constitutional antics of far more recent Presidents, Nixon’s offense today looks like small-potatoes indeed.

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  42. But Nixon had to be destroyed, if for no other reason than to put the American People in its place, as whipped and submissive has-beens obedient to their elite betters.

    And also (as Democratic insider Fred C. Dutton revealed in his here’s-how-to-do-it book of 1971), to literally ‘change’ the composition of that People by embracing (and indenturing with government bennies) entire swaths of fresh demographic fodder: blacks, women, youth, and immigrants … those were the big four Dutton named.

    In the service of Dutton’s formula, for the past 40 or more years all manner of invertebracy has been embraced with ever-expanding scope (and lunacy) and all manner of vertebracy has been dismissively ridiculed as ‘bitter-clinging’ and as being ‘on the wrong side of history’ and as being (take your pick) patriarchal, racist, oppressive, ageist, xenophobic, insensitive, hateful, un-Correct, un-helpful, disturbing, and/or alarming.

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  43. @Corvinus
    Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts...

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump's national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn's false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Here are the facts…

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president.

    That’s not a ‘fact”. There is zero evidence indicating that Russia “interfered” with the US Presidential election.

    The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia

    Speculation? What happened to your “facts”?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests …?

    The Deep State has no right to exist, let alone to look out for its interests. Its existence is flatly illegal and unconstitutional.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    More on the Ukrainian tragedy and presstituting western MSM: https://off-guardian.org/2017/02/16/35170/
    "... many people and independent sources see through their subterfuge and refuse to parrot the bought and paid for Washington consensus line. The trouble with the narrative by omission approach adopted by the Guardian and a host of WMSM outlets is that it fails to hide some glaring contradictions, the paramount one being Ukraine is not a NATO member. The other reasons being Russia has not invaded Ukraine and Poroshenko did not come to power as a result of an attempted Russian intervention there."
  44. Communist thinker Antonio Gramsci had written in the 1930s that the Western democracies could not be subverted by armed revolution as was accomplished in Russia. Rather, he said, the revolutionaries working against the Western democracies must imagine themselves as besieging a medieval castle: the walls could not be taken by storm; what was needed was a traitor or useful-idiot on the inside who would open even one little side-door in the walls. Once inside, the revolution’s real work could begin.

    The Democrats in the 1960s – terrified by the postwar demographics (all their client demographics from the prewar era, having achieved security through the results of World War 2, were no longer reliably voting Democratic) – threw themselves into useful-idiocy body and soul, until the Party itself was no longer distinguishable from the ‘revolution’ because it had not only embraced but identified itself with that ‘revolution’.

    I have heard it said that what the Democrats did was not an importation of foreign, bolshie, Gramscian content and method but rather was a purely American gambit, built on purely American Progressive precedents and energies. But Goldberg has certainly made the case that Progressivism and Socialism and Communism and Fascism are all crib-sibs, so we see in this a distinction without much of a difference.

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  45. Checkout Mossad shell company and the cellphone rewiring co FOXCOM which under the only former FARSI speaker in congress BOB NEY(R-OH) received the contract to wire the US capitol for cellphones- I carry a TRACFONE, I am resigned to the fact that I might be Tracked! Let’s end the cat and mouse, . end dual citizenships

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and "Treasure Map."

    NSA info like all other government info is shared with other agencies in the U.S. and abroad, leaked through spies, and of course sold to well-connected insiders.
  46. @kek
    Wait until Trump has his entire cabinet in place especially his new leadership up and running at the NSA. There will be mass terminations, loss of pensions and possible criminal charges and jail time awaiting the law breakers. The Obama hold overs in the "National Security" deep state are the walking dead.

    The last president to confront the 3 letter agencies with success was Eisenhower, get the popcorn ready and watch Trump dismantle these over rated secret handshake skull and bones flea bags.

    PS - my instinct tells me John Songbird McCain is on the last lap of his Tokyo Rose tour of duty.

    The last president to confront the 3 letter agencies with success was Eisenhower

    Some success.

    You don’t warn the country about The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Complex in your parting speech if things are under control.

    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

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    • Replies: @kek
    The MIC was just ramping up in power during the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower faced down the CIA when he threatened to send the First Army of Colorado to invade and secure Area 51 and S4 if his request for information was not met and he won that battle.

    During the DE era, the beginning, the control mechanisms were being put in place to exclude the Executive Branch from information and decisions from the so called "deep state". Those mechanisms exist today. President Clinton was frozen out of finding out about various top secret subjects and he has stated so publicly.

    Whatever control mechanisms exist to keep the Executive Branch from deep state secrets and decision making needs to be severed or the country will stay hostage to these shadow forces.

    After JFK was killed Jack Ruby said publicly on camera a new form of government is taking over, this is what he was talking about.

    "It" hasn't worked very well and "it" has run "it's" course and "it's" time for "it" to end.
  47. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Charles Pewitt
    The Deep State skunks who mismanage the American Empire are attacking President Trump. There must be a response from the Trump administration that sets a tone for the future.

    Andrew Jackson had the answer to the Deep State traitors who are attempting to destroy the sovereignty of the Unite States. The answer is the spoils system. President Trump must begin mass firings of all government workers who presume to be the power in the United States.

    FIRE THOSE DEEP STATE BASTARDS -- DAMMIT!

    Fire every damn one of those treasonous rats. Don't stop firing until that Rome on the Potomac is damn near close to depopulated. Do it!

    The Deep State skunks attacking President Trump are the same treasonous rats who push nation-wrecking open borders mass immigration and multicultural mayhem. They are the same Deep State skunks who push open borders free trade and transnationalism. They are the same Deep State skunks who push unnecessary wars and endless overseas imperial garrisoning.

    Fire those Deep State skunks! Remove those evil, treasonous Deep State government worker rats who want to destroy the United States as a sovereign nation-state.

    The Deep State is trying to kill President Trump, but President Trump shall kill it.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    President Trump must begin mass firings of all government workers who presume to be the power in the United States.

    …aides laid off staff at the State Department on Thursday.
    Much of seventh-floor staff, who work for the Deputy Secretary of State for Management and Resources and the Counselor offices, were told today that their services were no longer needed.
    These staffers in particular are often the conduit between the secretary’s office to the country bureaus, where the regional expertise is centered. Inside the State Department, some officials fear that this is a politically-minded purge that cuts out much-needed expertise from the policy-making, rather than simply reorganizing the bureaucracy.
    There are clear signals being sent that many key foreign policy portfolios will be controlled directly by the White House, rather than through the professional diplomats.

    https://archive.is/6MQmO

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  48. Those in the FBI, Justice Department and intelligence agencies who were complicit in a conspiracy to leak the contents of Flynn’s private conversations in order to bring down the national security adviser should be exposed and prosecuted.

    Clearly no electronic conversation is safe from government observation.

    Trump said that “he inherited a mess.”

    Well – “he inherited an evil mess.”

    Peace — Art

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  49. @Bill
    OK. How many people do you predict will lose their jobs over the subject of this article? I mean other than the victim, Flynn? I predict zero.

    It will be interesting to see (assuming we can see). It would be very encouraging if at least a couple of FBI or CIA people not only lost their jobs but were prosecuted. Maybe scapegoats who had other problems would be found if Trump applied pressure through his new heads of agencies.

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  50. Trump should never have allowed the deep state and the press to stampede him into firing Flynn. He should have told them all to shove it. By caving to these people, he has only emboldened them. Trump had better stand up, or they are going to take him down.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    On the opposite, the Flynn saga creates perfect conditions for exploration and investigation of the deep state' loyalists at the CIA and FBI. Lets hope Trump will not be "JFK-ied" too soon.
  51. For when Vice President Pence told a TV show that Flynn told him that sanctions did not come up in conversation with the Russian ambassador, a transcript of Flynn’s call was produced from recordings by intelligence agencies, and its contents leaked to The Washington Post.

    Is it just me or does anyone else see Pence as a 5th column traitor in this? Pence could have told the interviewer that he (Pence), and Flynn did have a discussion, the details of which are private, and that Pence determined that Flynn had done nothing wrong. It could of been left at that; no foul, no harm. But instead Pence appears to have eagerly spilled that beans and put Trump into a no win situation / choice. Should I put Pence on my permanent sh*t list. Am I wrong?

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  52. @Carlton Meyer
    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxSwH8B31w

    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.

    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.

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    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.
     
    That makes damned good sense. For one thing there's a lack of straight forwardness, that pertains to the spook world, and an amoral mode of operations that makes hiding in ''sheeps clothes'' of Liberal cover, only too convenient. Nobody would guess that these impractical ''tree huggin'' fuzzy brained bastards were the calculating devils they are.
    Hee hee hee.... '' 'We came we saw' he died hahhaha!" some sweet little ole lady said what?

    Look out ya'all for dem Pussy hats out there... them's some mean mean biatches!
    , @Chuck Orloski
    "... the Democrat party is the Deep State."

    No!

    The Deep State is far too wickedly intelligent to stupidly limit membership to their world wide "party" to the liberal Democrats.

    Master Zionists favor what President Reagan called "The Big Tent" and if any U.S. citizens do not want to join the psycho circus, they get ostracized, as for one example, anti-semitic, and such branding puts one into the loser "peanut gallery."

    Making present waves (on the internet) is President Putin's knowledge about the actual 9-11 perps and an ominous threat that he spills the beans about who really did it.

    No doubt, the Corporate Media presently has Putin demonized to a point that even Bill Cosby could disgrace the Russian president. However, "Bonzilla," please consider looking at the India Times article below?

    http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-has-secret-9-11-satellite-images-that-may-topple-the-us-government-say-sources-261621.html

    Many locals, where I live, consider people from India & running Convenient Stores as goofy "Dot Heads" but such is far from the truth. Just "John Lennon"-imagine (for a moment) if President Vladimir Putin actually takes the ugly truth about 9-11 to the entire world? Then The Deep State is in Deep Shit?
  53. @Corvinus
    Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts...

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump's national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn's false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president.

    That’s not a fact. That’s called fake news and you fell for it as did all supporters of Hildabeast.

    The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary.

    Operative word here is speculation. The FBI has the full transcript of the call and have said there was no violation of the Logan Act or any other illegality. FOX News and even some left leaning outlets have reported the same thing.

    Nobody knows whether Flynn lied or misled VP Pence or simply omitted some details because he doesn’t fully trust him. Washington is a strange place full of petty rivalries and mistrust.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    No, there is no provision in the Constitution for an unelected deep state to work on behalf of special interest groups at the expense of the will and interests of the citizenry. You just dreamed that one up. Trump is looking out for the national interests unlike the previous occupant.

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  54. @Fran Macadam
    Kristol is taking liberties with our freedoms, not defending them. The neocon has always and everywhere been the enemy of democracy and accountability.

    Fifth Column Snakes; Trotskyists; Dirty ____s!

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  55. @Dem-A-Dog
    Trump should never have allowed the deep state and the press to stampede him into firing Flynn. He should have told them all to shove it. By caving to these people, he has only emboldened them. Trump had better stand up, or they are going to take him down.

    On the opposite, the Flynn saga creates perfect conditions for exploration and investigation of the deep state’ loyalists at the CIA and FBI. Lets hope Trump will not be “JFK-ied” too soon.

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  56. Looks like the “fashionistas” want to be a part of the deep state.

    “Illamasqua Launches “Anti-Fascism Pledge” to Take a Stand Against Donald Trump”

    From the Allure (Conde-Nast) magazine “makeup” (face powder or facts??) columnist, Jillian Mackenzie, February 17, 2017

    British beauty company Illamasqua took a stand against Donald Trump by announcing that they “will never knowingly sell our products to people who support President Trump’s values.” Doubling down, they went on to say that they want anyone who buys their makeup to take what they call an “anti-fascism” pledge, which includes agreeing not to discriminate against anyone for their race, color, nationality, ethnicity, gender, age, disability, sexual orientation, or religion, plus “accepting responsibility” on climate and social issues, and supporting the intentions of an anti-intolerance British charity.

    Social justice warrior visible virtue signaling for all skin tones!!

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  57. @Bobzilla

    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.
     
    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.

    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.

    That makes damned good sense. For one thing there’s a lack of straight forwardness, that pertains to the spook world, and an amoral mode of operations that makes hiding in ”sheeps clothes” of Liberal cover, only too convenient. Nobody would guess that these impractical ”tree huggin” fuzzy brained bastards were the calculating devils they are.
    Hee hee hee…. ” ‘We came we saw’ he died hahhaha!” some sweet little ole lady said what?

    Look out ya’all for dem Pussy hats out there… them’s some mean mean biatches!

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  58. @Greenstalk

    Here are the facts…

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president.
     

    That's not a 'fact". There is zero evidence indicating that Russia "interfered" with the US Presidential election.

    The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia
     

    Speculation? What happened to your "facts"?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests ...?
     
    The Deep State has no right to exist, let alone to look out for its interests. Its existence is flatly illegal and unconstitutional.

    More on the Ukrainian tragedy and presstituting western MSM: https://off-guardian.org/2017/02/16/35170/
    “… many people and independent sources see through their subterfuge and refuse to parrot the bought and paid for Washington consensus line. The trouble with the narrative by omission approach adopted by the Guardian and a host of WMSM outlets is that it fails to hide some glaring contradictions, the paramount one being Ukraine is not a NATO member. The other reasons being Russia has not invaded Ukraine and Poroshenko did not come to power as a result of an attempted Russian intervention there.”

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  59. I know this “Deep State” thing is au courant, but I think it sounds too romantic for this bunch.

    How about “state security apparatus employees hired by Hussein”? Seems much more accurate, less flattering.

    If Trump can fire these people, he should. If they are as hard to fire as most civil “servants,” Trump should make a national case out of removing those protections, as they shouldn’t apply to employees of the state security apparatus. He should put that case before Congress, and threaten to veto anything coming out of Congress that he doesn’t 100% agree with, until Congress moves on state security apparatus reform.

    If he gets his reforms, he should then clean house. Remove everyone hired under Hussein, and remove anyone else with even a whiff of stink about them.

    And in the meantime, he should do everything he can to clean house.

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  60. Also, Trump should consider encrypting his communications, using private 3rd party stuff. He can hand over codes to people when he meets them face to face.

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  61. Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Yes, Adolf Hitler had the right to look out for his interests, as did Joe Stalin. Any more douchebag questions?

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  62. Get a load of this. According to FOX, General David Petraeus is one of the candidates being considered for nat sec advisor. The general mishandled classified information by providing it to author Paula Broadwell, who he was also having an extramarital affair with at the time. We are to believe that someone who illegally furnished classified info and an adulterer has more integrity than Mike Flynn? If Trump selects Petraeus then it will be hard to take seriously anymore.

    The other four candidates seem to be culled from the neo-conservative peanut gallery and are mostly retreads from the Dubya years, so either way say goodbye to rapprochement with Russia and hello to new wars, cold, lukewarm, hot or thermonuclear. To me this has Mike Pence’s paw prints all over it and people should recall that he exhibited hostility towards Russia during the presidential campaign.

    Who knows, maybe Hillary Clinton will be a candidate before it’s all over.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Notorious War Criminal Henry Kissinger advises POTUS Trump on Christian Russia...
  63. @Bobzilla

    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.
     
    For the most part, the Democratic party is the Deep State.

    “… the Democrat party is the Deep State.”

    No!

    The Deep State is far too wickedly intelligent to stupidly limit membership to their world wide “party” to the liberal Democrats.

    Master Zionists favor what President Reagan called “The Big Tent” and if any U.S. citizens do not want to join the psycho circus, they get ostracized, as for one example, anti-semitic, and such branding puts one into the loser “peanut gallery.”

    Making present waves (on the internet) is President Putin’s knowledge about the actual 9-11 perps and an ominous threat that he spills the beans about who really did it.

    No doubt, the Corporate Media presently has Putin demonized to a point that even Bill Cosby could disgrace the Russian president. However, “Bonzilla,” please consider looking at the India Times article below?

    http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-has-secret-9-11-satellite-images-that-may-topple-the-us-government-say-sources-261621.html

    Many locals, where I live, consider people from India & running Convenient Stores as goofy “Dot Heads” but such is far from the truth. Just “John Lennon”-imagine (for a moment) if President Vladimir Putin actually takes the ugly truth about 9-11 to the entire world? Then The Deep State is in Deep Shit?

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    • Replies: @KA
    Foreign media from Germany from La Monde foreign leaders of Italy UK and Germany did raise a lot of questions. Antiwar .com did raise a lot of questions including on the foreknowledge of the delivery of the Anthrax laced letter before the letter was received by the victims Counterpunch did publish articles Fox news did 4 part series before it was pulled under pressures.

    Nothing happened .No one bothered . People accepted the official version or neocon allowed official version of the various but connected events .
  64. @KenH
    Get a load of this. According to FOX, General David Petraeus is one of the candidates being considered for nat sec advisor. The general mishandled classified information by providing it to author Paula Broadwell, who he was also having an extramarital affair with at the time. We are to believe that someone who illegally furnished classified info and an adulterer has more integrity than Mike Flynn? If Trump selects Petraeus then it will be hard to take seriously anymore.

    The other four candidates seem to be culled from the neo-conservative peanut gallery and are mostly retreads from the Dubya years, so either way say goodbye to rapprochement with Russia and hello to new wars, cold, lukewarm, hot or thermonuclear. To me this has Mike Pence's paw prints all over it and people should recall that he exhibited hostility towards Russia during the presidential campaign.

    Who knows, maybe Hillary Clinton will be a candidate before it's all over.

    Notorious War Criminal Henry Kissinger advises POTUS Trump on Christian Russia…

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  65. Regarding Trump stopping TEMPORARILY certain people from 7 ME countries, which are not friendly to America. THE HYSTERIA makes me wonder if the libturds selective indignation is simply fake act. Why no one on the right or the left ever talks about how unfair it is to ban Cubans from coming to America for 50 freaking years. At least Trump “ban” is for three month.

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    • Replies: @KA
    No Cubans could come and get citizenship but cant go back .Americans could not travel to Cub . It is differnet .
    , @artichoke
    The liberals hated the policy for presuming to be able to stop the bleeding (into the country) of undesirables. And they celebrated when a court stuck it in Trump's eye.

    They love it. But except for a single flood, I believe Trump will just extremely vet these people, and since Syria, Somalia etc. don't have functioning governments and so the vetting cannot be completed, that will take care of the same would-be immigrants.
  66. Donald Trump

    Jared Kushner

    Bibi Netanyahu

    ISIS

    Christian Russia

    Henry Kissinger

    Crimea

    Put the pieces of the puzzle together

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  67. Actually, Trump should consider seconding a military unit to the White House, to handle his comms. Make sure to request personnel files on every relevant unit in the military, so the security apparatus pukes have no idea which one you’re going to choose.

    Now that I mention the military, it occurs that is where he should go to find replacements for all the Hussein security apparatus hires he needs to fire, too.

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    • Replies: @Karl
    68 Svigor > Actually, Trump should consider seconding a military unit to the White House, to handle his comms


    White House Communications Agency only advertises for recruitment on American Forces Network

    Which is transmitted under encryption, by the way.

    the encryption ain't THAT strong..... here on base, we were able to see your Superbowl, courtesy of a T1-patch by Yekhidat 8200.

    Man, you white guys can manufacture some foxy cheerleaders.....
  68. @Corvinus
    Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts...

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump's national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn's false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore."

    The body of people believed to be involved in the "secret" manipulation or control of government policy was granted that authority by us, the people, to keep us safe and secure. They have the freedom to ensure their own vitality just like any other group.
  69. THE HYSTERIA makes me wonder if the libturds selective indignation is simply fake act.

    It is mostly, of course, yes. Half of the leftist talking heads are sociopaths, and the other half are drama queens.

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  70. Our familes and our women and the entire planet won´t be safe UNTIL MONSTER TRUMP AND HIS IGNORANCE & HATRED WILL BE DEFEATED

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Is this a plea from Messieurs Clinton, Epstein, and Dershowitz?
    http://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971
    , @Authenticjazzman
    " Our planet and our women and the entire planet won't be safe UNTIL MONSTER TRUMP AND HIS IGNORANCE& HATRED WILL BE DEFEATED"

    Our families and our women and the entire planet will not be safe until you are defeated.

    Authenticjazzman " Mensa" society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.
  71. @Man on the street
    Regarding Trump stopping TEMPORARILY certain people from 7 ME countries, which are not friendly to America. THE HYSTERIA makes me wonder if the libturds selective indignation is simply fake act. Why no one on the right or the left ever talks about how unfair it is to ban Cubans from coming to America for 50 freaking years. At least Trump "ban" is for three month.

    No Cubans could come and get citizenship but cant go back .Americans could not travel to Cub . It is differnet .

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  72. @Chuck Orloski
    "... the Democrat party is the Deep State."

    No!

    The Deep State is far too wickedly intelligent to stupidly limit membership to their world wide "party" to the liberal Democrats.

    Master Zionists favor what President Reagan called "The Big Tent" and if any U.S. citizens do not want to join the psycho circus, they get ostracized, as for one example, anti-semitic, and such branding puts one into the loser "peanut gallery."

    Making present waves (on the internet) is President Putin's knowledge about the actual 9-11 perps and an ominous threat that he spills the beans about who really did it.

    No doubt, the Corporate Media presently has Putin demonized to a point that even Bill Cosby could disgrace the Russian president. However, "Bonzilla," please consider looking at the India Times article below?

    http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-has-secret-9-11-satellite-images-that-may-topple-the-us-government-say-sources-261621.html

    Many locals, where I live, consider people from India & running Convenient Stores as goofy "Dot Heads" but such is far from the truth. Just "John Lennon"-imagine (for a moment) if President Vladimir Putin actually takes the ugly truth about 9-11 to the entire world? Then The Deep State is in Deep Shit?

    Foreign media from Germany from La Monde foreign leaders of Italy UK and Germany did raise a lot of questions. Antiwar .com did raise a lot of questions including on the foreknowledge of the delivery of the Anthrax laced letter before the letter was received by the victims Counterpunch did publish articles Fox news did 4 part series before it was pulled under pressures.

    Nothing happened .No one bothered . People accepted the official version or neocon allowed official version of the various but connected events .

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    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    KA,

    On 9-11, "Foreign media... did raise a lot of questions."

    I do not know if you read the India Times article "link" that I provided earlier.

    What it asserted was that Russia has satellite imagery of the 9-11 attacks.

    This means that the U.S. has the exact same satellite imagery available.

    As President Putin is allegedly capable of sharing (to the world) what 9-11 attack images Russia has, why can't American citizens have a look at what their government has. Compare and contrast?

    Space satellites can show people's backyard cook outs and such are available to everyone with internet. Below I attached a brief You Tube video which you and other commenters can further ponder. Thank you KA for showing extraordinary interest!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLRjP8a6EAY
  73. @MEexpert
    National Endowment for Democracy must definitely go. There is no need for it. We don't have any moral right to push democracy in other countries when we don't even respect it in our own.

    One of Obama's last executive order was to allow NSA to share the intelligence they have with any other intelligence agency. Apparently, that was done in the case of Gen. Flynn. President Trump should cancel that executive order with one of his own.

    Hopefully, by now President Trump should realize what he is up against. He has an uphill task. He should not react to the efforts of the deep state but follow his own instincts. That is what got him here. If he is going to govern by reacting to deep state then he has already lost the battle.

    As President Trump has said so many times that it is better to have friendly relations with Russia. He should continue to pursue those efforts. The opposition has already tasted blood. They will not stop there. They will be looking for more targets until they get the ultimate target, i.e. Trump himself.

    One of Obama’s last executive order was to allow NSA to share the intelligence they have with any other intelligence agency. Apparently, that was done in the case of Gen. Flynn. President Trump should cancel that executive order with one of his own.

    Hugely important point. Thank you for sharing this.

    Team Trump please note, and ACT NOW.

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  74. @War for Blair Mountain
    Why does Donald Trump target Christian Russia over Crimea?

    Let them overthrow Trump...it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US. I don't see any downsides to this.

    Those plotting the ‘overthrow’ would do so at their own peril… A civil war in the USA would mean civil wars across the globe as each nation would take advantage of the missing American leadership to rid of their unwanted. Wish not, want not!

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  75. @prometheus
    Checkout Mossad shell company and the cellphone rewiring co FOXCOM which under the only former FARSI speaker in congress BOB NEY(R-OH) received the contract to wire the US capitol for cellphones- I carry a TRACFONE, I am resigned to the fact that I might be Tracked! Let's end the cat and mouse, . end dual citizenships

    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and “Treasure Map.”

    NSA info like all other government info is shared with other agencies in the U.S. and abroad, leaked through spies, and of course sold to well-connected insiders.

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    • Replies: @utu
    Collecting of data for NSA from telecommunication is done by Mossad shell companies subcontracted by NSA. Whatever NSA got it also is in Israel. The take over of all spying infrastructure by Israel in the USA is complete.
    , @MEexpert

    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and “Treasure Map.”
     
    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government. Some years ago Time magazine published an article on this topic and stated that a company in Israel has a contract to record all calls in the United States and the records are kept in Israel. I wish I could remember the name of the company. The article was published when it was OK to criticize Israel in the American press.

    That is why our politicians are so afraid of annoying anyone from Israel. Israel has all the dirty information on them.
  76. @Eagle Eye
    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and "Treasure Map."

    NSA info like all other government info is shared with other agencies in the U.S. and abroad, leaked through spies, and of course sold to well-connected insiders.

    Collecting of data for NSA from telecommunication is done by Mossad shell companies subcontracted by NSA. Whatever NSA got it also is in Israel. The take over of all spying infrastructure by Israel in the USA is complete.

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  77. @TWS
    This is an open war. Time to prosecute and strip the shadows that hide the deep state. Drill down and leave none standing.

    I totally agree.

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  78. The intelligence and investigative arms of the regime dig up dirt, and then move it to their Fourth Estate collaborators,

    Nah, they don’t dig up dirt- they monitor, record and blackmail using all electronic transmissions.

    This is the very definition of a Police State.

    On behalf of the Global Oligarchy.

    Brought to you by the Lugenpresse.

    In exchange for Panem et Spoortzball.

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  79. @War for Blair Mountain
    Ivanka Trump-Kushner and Jared Kushner shit on gold-plated toilet bowls in Trump Tower...


    While.....


    Native Born White American Working Class Teenage Males....


    Serve as canon fodder for Ivanka Trump-Kushner-Jared KUSHNER'S Greater Israel..

    Alt Right Gay Boys Richard Spencer and Paul Kersey pine for Emperor Barron...



    I mean..it's really f......g disgusting....


    Dear Pat.......I hope you let this comment through with no delay...for it is the GD truth!!!...the canon fodder issue has just come up again in my family...again...very serious....scares me to death......F the Alt Right Fags and their Emperor Trump......I am mighty pissed at the moment..


    I would have prefered POTUS RON PAUL

    Ron Paul is a good guy, but he didn’t have any sort of actual manly swagger- to beat down the fag press -for starters.

    Of course, watching Trump torture the lugenpresse is worth the price of admission…

    …And if the police -state succeeds in deposing Trump, [Bonus!] then we can finally have at it!

    P.S. – Why does anyone EVER sign up for banker wars?

    The Bill of Rights is continually threatened by the Federal police-state.

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    Why do Teenage Males sign up for Bankers Wars?


    Because they don't believe they are signing up for bankers wars...they just don't wanna think too broadly....Native Born White Born White Teenage Males facing bleak prospects in the labor market....military recruiting TV commercials prey upon these kids....writing from real-time-experience perspective on the issue right now....This is why Donald Trump's FORIEGN POLICY is so lethal...

    I wish the Alt Right had higher aspirations than the spoiled brat Barron Trump as future emperor..

  80. @WIllem Hendrik
    I only know of the Dutch prime-minister Lubbers who shut down our (tiny) foreign intelligence office in the 90's because it was such a mess.

    Trump would likely be killed before he signed the order to shut down CIA . But something like it has to be done.
    Kick 'm all out, save 70 billion a year and have the spy and torture-guys build that wall with Mexico. Brick by brick. They will actually do more for their country that way.

    Kick ‘m all out, save 70 billion a year and have the spy and torture-guys build that wall with Mexico

    This!

    If Trump won’t do it, it is up to us-to rise up- and kick their asses into Hell.

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  81. @Corvinus
    Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts...

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump's national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn's false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    What!?

    Did you eat a great big bowl of dumbflakes for breakfast?

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  82. @Eagle Eye
    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and "Treasure Map."

    NSA info like all other government info is shared with other agencies in the U.S. and abroad, leaked through spies, and of course sold to well-connected insiders.

    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and “Treasure Map.”

    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government. Some years ago Time magazine published an article on this topic and stated that a company in Israel has a contract to record all calls in the United States and the records are kept in Israel. I wish I could remember the name of the company. The article was published when it was OK to criticize Israel in the American press.

    That is why our politicians are so afraid of annoying anyone from Israel. Israel has all the dirty information on them.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Here we are: http://www.rense.com/general18/isr2.htm
    "...all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private elecommunications company. Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.
    In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. ... in 1999, the super secret national security agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what's called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands - in Israel, in particular. "Widespread data mining techniques and algorithms.... combining both the properties of the customer (e.g., credit rating) and properties of the specific 'behavior.'"
    The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system."
    , @geokat62

    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government.
     
    Actually, to get around the law, the US gov't collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyses it for them and, one could logically conclude, for themselves.

    Here's a previous comment that explains this arcane practice that is unbeknownst to most Americans:

    This is how the game is played: through the power of The Lobby, the USG has entered into an MOU with the Zionist state to “share” signal intelligence that is collected on all US citizens. And to mitigate against the risk of blackmail, the MOU stipulates that should the Israelis come across information on high level USG officials, they will immediately destroy it.

    Ever wonder why some congress people – Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Dennis Hastert, Jan Schakowsky, etc. – are passionate defenders of the Zionist state?… now you know.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents
     
  83. @Carlton Meyer
    The brilliant, honest left-winger Jimmy Dore agrees, and says the corrupt Democratic party leaders and their media propaganda machines are too busy promoting bogus claims that Russians defeated Hillary than to recognize this secret Deep State threat to democracy and world peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxSwH8B31w

    The Russian thing all stems from the fake news about Russia allegedly hacking Dems emails. The leftist Dems / media lied then, so now they must continue to lie, invent distracting tall tales.

    It’s nothing more than Garbage In, Garbage Out. There is zero proof that the Russians did the hacking, so the rest is necessarily BS.

    And how is exposing Hillary’s and the Dems shady behavior in those hacked emails a bad thing?

    The culprit did the country a huge service.

    Leftists want to distract from the actual contents of the emails.

    Guccifer debunks Russian ‘hacking’ nonsense as “Fake Evidence”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-13/guccifer-20-emerges-slam-intelligence-communitys-fake-evidence

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  84. @KA
    Foreign media from Germany from La Monde foreign leaders of Italy UK and Germany did raise a lot of questions. Antiwar .com did raise a lot of questions including on the foreknowledge of the delivery of the Anthrax laced letter before the letter was received by the victims Counterpunch did publish articles Fox news did 4 part series before it was pulled under pressures.

    Nothing happened .No one bothered . People accepted the official version or neocon allowed official version of the various but connected events .

    KA,

    On 9-11, “Foreign media… did raise a lot of questions.”

    I do not know if you read the India Times article “link” that I provided earlier.

    What it asserted was that Russia has satellite imagery of the 9-11 attacks.

    This means that the U.S. has the exact same satellite imagery available.

    As President Putin is allegedly capable of sharing (to the world) what 9-11 attack images Russia has, why can’t American citizens have a look at what their government has. Compare and contrast?

    Space satellites can show people’s backyard cook outs and such are available to everyone with internet. Below I attached a brief You Tube video which you and other commenters can further ponder. Thank you KA for showing extraordinary interest!

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  85. @Stonehands
    Ron Paul is a good guy, but he didn't have any sort of actual manly swagger- to beat down the fag press -for starters.

    Of course, watching Trump torture the lugenpresse is worth the price of admission...

    ...And if the police -state succeeds in deposing Trump, [Bonus!] then we can finally have at it!

    P.S. - Why does anyone EVER sign up for banker wars?

    The Bill of Rights is continually threatened by the Federal police-state.

    Why do Teenage Males sign up for Bankers Wars?

    Because they don’t believe they are signing up for bankers wars…they just don’t wanna think too broadly….Native Born White Born White Teenage Males facing bleak prospects in the labor market….military recruiting TV commercials prey upon these kids….writing from real-time-experience perspective on the issue right now….This is why Donald Trump’s FORIEGN POLICY is so lethal…

    I wish the Alt Right had higher aspirations than the spoiled brat Barron Trump as future emperor..

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  86. @trump is a sex predator
    Our familes and our women and the entire planet won´t be safe UNTIL MONSTER TRUMP AND HIS IGNORANCE & HATRED WILL BE DEFEATED

    Is this a plea from Messieurs Clinton, Epstein, and Dershowitz?

    http://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971

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  87. @MEexpert

    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and “Treasure Map.”
     
    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government. Some years ago Time magazine published an article on this topic and stated that a company in Israel has a contract to record all calls in the United States and the records are kept in Israel. I wish I could remember the name of the company. The article was published when it was OK to criticize Israel in the American press.

    That is why our politicians are so afraid of annoying anyone from Israel. Israel has all the dirty information on them.

    Here we are: http://www.rense.com/general18/isr2.htm
    “…all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private elecommunications company. Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.
    In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. … in 1999, the super secret national security agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what’s called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands – in Israel, in particular. “Widespread data mining techniques and algorithms…. combining both the properties of the customer (e.g., credit rating) and properties of the specific ‘behavior.’”
    The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system.”

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  88. To my Alt Right Comrades

    I now consider Donald Trump to be an indictable WAR CRIMINAL along with USMC General and 67 year old bachelor weirdo…MATTIS the cockroach from HELL!!!

    INDICT DONALD TRUMP FOR WAR CRIMES IN YEMEN…INDICT THE ORANGE HELMET MOTHER FUCKER!!!

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  89. @El Dato

    The last president to confront the 3 letter agencies with success was Eisenhower
     
    Some success.

    You don't warn the country about The Military-Industrial-Congressional-Complex in your parting speech if things are under control.

    Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
     

    The MIC was just ramping up in power during the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower faced down the CIA when he threatened to send the First Army of Colorado to invade and secure Area 51 and S4 if his request for information was not met and he won that battle.

    During the DE era, the beginning, the control mechanisms were being put in place to exclude the Executive Branch from information and decisions from the so called “deep state”. Those mechanisms exist today. President Clinton was frozen out of finding out about various top secret subjects and he has stated so publicly.

    Whatever control mechanisms exist to keep the Executive Branch from deep state secrets and decision making needs to be severed or the country will stay hostage to these shadow forces.

    After JFK was killed Jack Ruby said publicly on camera a new form of government is taking over, this is what he was talking about.

    “It” hasn’t worked very well and “it” has run “it’s” course and “it’s” time for “it” to end.

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  90. @War for Blair Mountain
    Ivanka Trump-Kushner and Jared Kushner shit on gold-plated toilet bowls in Trump Tower...


    While.....


    Native Born White American Working Class Teenage Males....


    Serve as canon fodder for Ivanka Trump-Kushner-Jared KUSHNER'S Greater Israel..

    Alt Right Gay Boys Richard Spencer and Paul Kersey pine for Emperor Barron...



    I mean..it's really f......g disgusting....


    Dear Pat.......I hope you let this comment through with no delay...for it is the GD truth!!!...the canon fodder issue has just come up again in my family...again...very serious....scares me to death......F the Alt Right Fags and their Emperor Trump......I am mighty pissed at the moment..


    I would have prefered POTUS RON PAUL

    Blair mountain: what is the source of your assertion that Paul Kersey and Richard Spenser are homosexuals? Inquiring minds wsnt to know.

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Their worshipping of Trump as Emperor God....which gives Trump a blank check to use members of my family as canon fodder for Greater Israel....

    This is why the Alt Right must be socially conservative Christian-economically-populist-anarchist.......
  91. @prusmc
    Blair mountain: what is the source of your assertion that Paul Kersey and Richard Spenser are homosexuals? Inquiring minds wsnt to know.

    Their worshipping of Trump as Emperor God….which gives Trump a blank check to use members of my family as canon fodder for Greater Israel….

    This is why the Alt Right must be socially conservative Christian-economically-populist-anarchist…….

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    • Replies: @MEexpert
    Were you hibernating during the Obama presidency? Why didn't you indict him for Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Libya and making your family as "canon fodder" for Israel?
  92. @MEexpert

    ALL cellphones are tracked by the NSA and have been for years. Check out E911 and “Treasure Map.”
     
    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government. Some years ago Time magazine published an article on this topic and stated that a company in Israel has a contract to record all calls in the United States and the records are kept in Israel. I wish I could remember the name of the company. The article was published when it was OK to criticize Israel in the American press.

    That is why our politicians are so afraid of annoying anyone from Israel. Israel has all the dirty information on them.

    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government.

    Actually, to get around the law, the US gov’t collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyses it for them and, one could logically conclude, for themselves.

    Here’s a previous comment that explains this arcane practice that is unbeknownst to most Americans:

    This is how the game is played: through the power of The Lobby, the USG has entered into an MOU with the Zionist state to “share” signal intelligence that is collected on all US citizens. And to mitigate against the risk of blackmail, the MOU stipulates that should the Israelis come across information on high level USG officials, they will immediately destroy it.

    Ever wonder why some congress people – Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Dennis Hastert, Jan Schakowsky, etc. – are passionate defenders of the Zionist state?… now you know.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents

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    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    "Actually, to get around the law, the US government collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyzes it for them..."

    Another top notch comment, geokat62!

    I respect the way you think and I have the following question that I feel will inspire a reply from you.

    What "law" do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not "break"?

    The U.S. "Law" (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.

    Below are my Ten Commandments in Reverse:

    1. You do not have to worship the Deep State, but never-ever dare fuck with it.

    2. Worship The Deep State's certified False Idols and mimic them only; i.e., not C. Lindbergh.

    3. Do not take any name honored by the The Deep State in vain! For 1-example, Sen. McCain.

    4. Only Big Banks and Wall Street can steal without facing disgrace & punishment.

    5. Covet anything you want as long as it's unaffiliated with The Sermon on the Mount.

    6. Abide by the original Ten Commandments and become just another "loser."

    7. Practice daily "10 Minutes Hate" for Iran and and Putin.

    8. Deep State war is "humanitarian" and civilian deaths are "collateral damage."

    9. All Deep State servants are equal, but some servants are more equal than others.

    10. The "Deep State" can commit mass murder of US citizens, i.e. 9-11, without accountability
    to any "Law" beyond that which they created from-on-"Low."
  93. @annamaria
    Here we are: http://www.rense.com/general18/isr2.htm
    "...all call records and billing in the U.S. are done for the phone companies by Amdocs Ltd., an Israeli-based private elecommunications company. Amdocs has contracts with the 25 biggest phone companies in America, and more worldwide. The White House and other secure government phone lines are protected, but it is virtually impossible to make a call on normal phones without generating an Amdocs record of it.
    In recent years, the FBI and other government agencies have investigated Amdocs more than once. ... in 1999, the super secret national security agency, headquartered in northern Maryland, issued what's called a Top Secret sensitive compartmentalized information report, TS/SCI, warning that records of calls in the United States were getting into foreign hands - in Israel, in particular. "Widespread data mining techniques and algorithms.... combining both the properties of the customer (e.g., credit rating) and properties of the specific 'behavior.'"
    The Amdocs memo says the system should be used to prevent phone fraud. But U.S. counterintelligence analysts say it could also be used to spy through the phone system."

    Thank you annamaria.

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  94. @War for Blair Mountain
    Their worshipping of Trump as Emperor God....which gives Trump a blank check to use members of my family as canon fodder for Greater Israel....

    This is why the Alt Right must be socially conservative Christian-economically-populist-anarchist.......

    Were you hibernating during the Obama presidency? Why didn’t you indict him for Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Libya and making your family as “canon fodder” for Israel?

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    I did....you just want to write Donald Trump a great big check to use Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers as CANON FODDER for Greater Israel...


    ISIS could be wiped off the Planet with just two very threatening phone calls by POTUS TRUMP...one to Our Friend Israel...one to the Saudi Royal Family....


    The US Military is illegally occupying the SOVERIGN nation of Syria which is under assault by the Israel funded ISIS....

    DONALD TRUMP IS AN INDICTABLE WAR CRIMINAL AS OF TODAY...
  95. Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore.

    In the age of Fake News, I suppose Real Trolls make sense. In Corvanus’ case, who cares? He’s some lying shitbird who took his name from an insipid vampire movie (he’s probably some kind of half-breed, or somehow closely connected to a half-breed).

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  96. Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts…

    Leave it to Corvanus to twist the English language into all-new malapropisms.

    Please buy a dictionary, you moron. Then look up “curry.”

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  97. For those prudes that extoll the CIA incontinence: http://graysinfo.blogspot.ca/2013/07/the-evil-of-empires.html
    “We have seen and read the latest revelations of a “democratic” empire spying on its citizens and the whole world. The man who revealed the secret spying of the empire was Edward Snowden. His reward for speaking out and telling the truth about illegal acts is to be vilified in much of the corporate owned media and to be refused asylum for his service to humanity. Some of the countries refusing him asylum are ones who claim to be outraged over the spying on them by a “democratic ally.” What we are seeing is open hypocrisy by the puppets of the empire which are all in lockstep with the dictates of the empire of evil. A globalist, new world order is already in control, and nobody must be allowed to disobey or expose its evil machinations. That is why Edward Snowden must be hunted down and brought to heel like a dog, rather than a human being who deserves praise and recognition. Evil is in control and it is determined not to be thwarted, for if Edward Snowden succeeds, then more people might find the courage to speak out against the tyranny of evil that is blanketing the earth and its inhabitants.”

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  98. “So, where’s the outrage, from the other half of the dialectic, that Trump is continuing Neocon policies in plain sight on hyper steroids now despite mere campaign promises ?
    Liberalism and Conservatism. -isms. I suspect not many know what a dialectic looks like if caught within one.
    The reality is, when confronted with evidence of clear wrongdoing through leaked e-mails, the “liberals” were just the same as “conservatives” now who turn a blind eye to clear evidence of wrongdoing.
    Speculation over Trump’s mental scienter is easily exploited with a few credibility bolstering stunts, like Haaretz being the only source reporting that Trump purposely removed certain words from a Holocaust statement when it is unconfirmed elsewhere. Fake “left” story to bolster the ALT-Zionist “right”.
    In other words, the dialectic gambit has been most effective, having been spawned from the Petri dish of a Zionist turf war between the Kissingerites and the Brzezinskyites.
    Time to snap out of it. Just like Soros conscripted the left, not through obvious means, but treacherously, the right has been captured just the same.
    The whole plan was to put in a weakened Trump instead of a Neo-Liberal Clinton that would have the blind support of the press and media. That way we would have some levers. The other way around, we would not have had many.
    The elections are over and people need to snap out of it. You have zero confirmation or proof of what he is actually thinking and are speculating safely from your computers while Iranians became stigmatized worse than the actual perpetrators of 9/11.”

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  99. @geokat62

    Actually, all calls are monitored and recorded by the government.
     
    Actually, to get around the law, the US gov't collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyses it for them and, one could logically conclude, for themselves.

    Here's a previous comment that explains this arcane practice that is unbeknownst to most Americans:

    This is how the game is played: through the power of The Lobby, the USG has entered into an MOU with the Zionist state to “share” signal intelligence that is collected on all US citizens. And to mitigate against the risk of blackmail, the MOU stipulates that should the Israelis come across information on high level USG officials, they will immediately destroy it.

    Ever wonder why some congress people – Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Dennis Hastert, Jan Schakowsky, etc. – are passionate defenders of the Zionist state?… now you know.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents
     

    “Actually, to get around the law, the US government collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyzes it for them…”

    Another top notch comment, geokat62!

    I respect the way you think and I have the following question that I feel will inspire a reply from you.

    What “law” do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not “break”?

    The U.S. “Law” (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.

    Below are my Ten Commandments in Reverse:

    1. You do not have to worship the Deep State, but never-ever dare fuck with it.

    2. Worship The Deep State’s certified False Idols and mimic them only; i.e., not C. Lindbergh.

    3. Do not take any name honored by the The Deep State in vain! For 1-example, Sen. McCain.

    4. Only Big Banks and Wall Street can steal without facing disgrace & punishment.

    5. Covet anything you want as long as it’s unaffiliated with The Sermon on the Mount.

    6. Abide by the original Ten Commandments and become just another “loser.”

    7. Practice daily “10 Minutes Hate” for Iran and and Putin.

    8. Deep State war is “humanitarian” and civilian deaths are “collateral damage.”

    9. All Deep State servants are equal, but some servants are more equal than others.

    10. The “Deep State” can commit mass murder of US citizens, i.e. 9-11, without accountability
    to any “Law” beyond that which they created from-on-”Low.”

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    You are a 9/11 Truther Nutter..

    The MUZZIES did 9/11...and it wasn't all that difficult...the MUZZIES just took advantage of millions of jock sniffing White Males who were more interested in NFL NEGRO ball than post-1965 Immigration Policy..


    No Muslims in our Ameri a....0 probability of 9/11 ever occurring....it was-is this easy...


    The DEEP STATE Theorists attribute way too much intelligence and competence to the DEEP STATE...there is nothing very deep about them at all...they are just taking advantage of a population of White Americans who spend their precious time on this planet watching hours of Negro Ball...

    Imagine an America that was still 90 percent Native Ball White Americans...Hillary Clinton not even a viable candidate in 2017...forget Chelsea 2020......no internal coup against Trump....because Hillary Clinton's nonwhite Democratic Party Voting wouldn't exist...the COMET PIZZA HOMO PEDOPHILES of the "DEEP STATE" would have no political power....
    , @geokat62

    What “law” do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not “break”?

    The U.S. “Law” (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.
     
    For me the pivotal point, Chuck, is when Bush senior launched a US-led coalition against Iraq in 1991. Taking a page from how the mafia operates, the US was able to mousetrap Saddam with minimal effort:

    July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

    Saddam Hussein - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

    Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – We have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960′s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

    On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145
     
    Although the neocons/Israel-firsters were disappointed that Bush did not finish the job by marching on Bagdad, they still felt exhilarated as the attack on Iraq demonstrated that the US was prepared to act unilaterally after the demise of the SU. The neocons described it as a unipolar moment for the US and Bush boldly announced the ushering in of the New World Order. Not to be undone, slick Willie followed-up with an attack of his own. This time the target was in the Balkans, the former Yugoslavia, and the justification was based on humanitarian grounds, a precursor to R2P. Unlike Gulf War 1, the US was unable to gain an UNSC resolution authorizing the attacks (both China and Russia indicated they would veto such a proposal).

    But these attacks were merely a dress rehearsal for the main event: the taking out 7 Muslim countries in 5 years, after the predicted new Pearl Harbor-type event came to pass.

    So, instead of reaping the benefits of an expected and hoped for peace dividend after the collapse of the SU, the US was prodded to fight more wars by taking on the role of world policeman. And who was pushing hardest for the US to take on that role? I'll give you a clue:

    "Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel... Jews don't like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States... American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don't want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel." - Irving Kristol

    https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol
     
  100. @MEexpert
    Were you hibernating during the Obama presidency? Why didn't you indict him for Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Libya and making your family as "canon fodder" for Israel?

    I did….you just want to write Donald Trump a great big check to use Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers as CANON FODDER for Greater Israel…

    ISIS could be wiped off the Planet with just two very threatening phone calls by POTUS TRUMP…one to Our Friend Israel…one to the Saudi Royal Family….

    The US Military is illegally occupying the SOVERIGN nation of Syria which is under assault by the Israel funded ISIS….

    DONALD TRUMP IS AN INDICTABLE WAR CRIMINAL AS OF TODAY…

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  101. @trump is a sex predator
    Our familes and our women and the entire planet won´t be safe UNTIL MONSTER TRUMP AND HIS IGNORANCE & HATRED WILL BE DEFEATED

    ” Our planet and our women and the entire planet won’t be safe UNTIL MONSTER TRUMP AND HIS IGNORANCE& HATRED WILL BE DEFEATED”

    Our families and our women and the entire planet will not be safe until you are defeated.

    Authenticjazzman ” Mensa” society member since 1973, and pro jazz artist.

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  102. @Chuck Orloski
    "Actually, to get around the law, the US government collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyzes it for them..."

    Another top notch comment, geokat62!

    I respect the way you think and I have the following question that I feel will inspire a reply from you.

    What "law" do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not "break"?

    The U.S. "Law" (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.

    Below are my Ten Commandments in Reverse:

    1. You do not have to worship the Deep State, but never-ever dare fuck with it.

    2. Worship The Deep State's certified False Idols and mimic them only; i.e., not C. Lindbergh.

    3. Do not take any name honored by the The Deep State in vain! For 1-example, Sen. McCain.

    4. Only Big Banks and Wall Street can steal without facing disgrace & punishment.

    5. Covet anything you want as long as it's unaffiliated with The Sermon on the Mount.

    6. Abide by the original Ten Commandments and become just another "loser."

    7. Practice daily "10 Minutes Hate" for Iran and and Putin.

    8. Deep State war is "humanitarian" and civilian deaths are "collateral damage."

    9. All Deep State servants are equal, but some servants are more equal than others.

    10. The "Deep State" can commit mass murder of US citizens, i.e. 9-11, without accountability
    to any "Law" beyond that which they created from-on-"Low."

    You are a 9/11 Truther Nutter..

    The MUZZIES did 9/11…and it wasn’t all that difficult…the MUZZIES just took advantage of millions of jock sniffing White Males who were more interested in NFL NEGRO ball than post-1965 Immigration Policy..

    No Muslims in our Ameri a….0 probability of 9/11 ever occurring….it was-is this easy…

    The DEEP STATE Theorists attribute way too much intelligence and competence to the DEEP STATE…there is nothing very deep about them at all…they are just taking advantage of a population of White Americans who spend their precious time on this planet watching hours of Negro Ball…

    Imagine an America that was still 90 percent Native Ball White Americans…Hillary Clinton not even a viable candidate in 2017…forget Chelsea 2020……no internal coup against Trump….because Hillary Clinton’s nonwhite Democratic Party Voting wouldn’t exist…the COMET PIZZA HOMO PEDOPHILES of the “DEEP STATE” would have no political power….

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    • Replies: @MEexpert

    I did….you just want to write Donald Trump a great big check to use Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers as CANON FODDER for Greater Israel…
     
    From which Planet did fall off? Is the "Blair Mountain" named after Tony Blair, the Prime Minister? You are still living in dark ages. American military has been an all volunteer army for quite some time. If "Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers" are cannon fodder for Israel, it is because they choose to be one.

    If you are not the cannon fodder and don't watch "Negro Ball" you must be watching CNN because that is the level of intelligence you are demonstrating. You need to hook up with the "self proclaimed Mensa member."

    Maybe if the "Native Born White American cannon fodder" had been kept in the White America and not sent to invade the Muslim countries, then the "Muzzies" may not have done 9/11, if they actually did it. But don't forget your good bosom buddies the Israelis.

    You need to take a bath and rinse all that 60's racism. The America of today does not need people like you.
  103. “You are a 9/11 Truth Nutter…”

    Dear War for Blair Mountain,

    On which side of “The War for Blair Mountain” are Tel Aviv and D.C. ?

    Be careful! You can easily go from just being a sawed-off asshole to a useful target in a U.S.-Zionist “Operation Hunt for the Blair Witch.”

    Selah.

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  104. This week while Trump was playing kissy face with Netanyahu, the new head of the CIA was in Palestine talking (dictating) policy to the Palestinian political leader of the West Bank.

    Why is the CIA talking policy to anyone – is policy the purview of our spy agency? Is the CIA a policy agency or a spy agency?

    Should policy be secret? Everything the CIA does is privileged to be supper secret. Over 90% of congress cannot know what our current foreign policy is because it is secret.

    By the time our policy is known – it is too late to change it – we are already secretly committed.

    It is time to take the CIA down and return it to being ONLY a spy agency.

    Peace — Art

    p.s. If the CIA had been doing its job of spying – the Iraq war would not have happened. Where was the CIA on 9/11? What an unbelievable total screw up they are.

    p.s. In the last 25 years, what in hell does the CIA have to be proud of?

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    "In the last 25 years, what in the hell does the CIA to be proud of?"

    The CIA/Mossad should be proud of avoiding (both) confinement in Gitmo and international war crime-tribunal charges.

    Such is quite an amazing Houdini-achievement, eh?

    Thanks very much, Art!
  105. It looks like presstitutes do not care if they are caught lying, even when the factual information is widely available. A paycheck. There is no other explanation to their shameful opuses, such as the latest one by Karen DeYoung (of The Washington Post): https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/18/the-did-you-talk-to-russians-witch-hunt/
    “…the Post’s senior foreign affairs writer Karen DeYoung on Friday described the civil war in Ukraine this way: “That conflict began when Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014, then backed separatists in eastern Ukraine in what has become a grinding war, despite a deal to end it, called the Minsk agreement, negotiated with Putin by the leaders of France and Germany.” But DeYoung’s synopsis is simply not true. The crisis began in the fall of 2013 when Ukraine’s elected President Viktor Yanukovych backed out of what he regarded as a costly and unacceptable association agreement with the European Union, a move which prompted protests by Ukrainians in Kiev’s Maidan square. The Obama administration’s State Department, U.S. neocon politicians such as Sen. John McCain, and various U.S.-backed “non-governmental organizations” then stoked those protests against Yanukovych, which grew violent as trained ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi street fighters poured in from western Ukraine. In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych took shape under the guidance of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt who were caught in a phone call in late January or early February 2014 conspiring to impose new leadership inside Ukraine…” [Guess DeYoung would never ever mention the Kagans' cabal - not enough moral fiber.]
    “Karen DeYoung also framed the Minsk agreement as if it were imposed on Putin when he was one of its principal proponents and architects, winning its approval in early 2015 at a time when the Ukrainian military was facing battlefield reversals….”

    The unraveling of DeYoung’ lies (yes, Karen DeYoung is a liar) continues but it is doubtful that WP, DailyBeast, NYP, VICE news, and other openly presstituting “sources” are interested in facts. Their more-less comfortable existence is pegged to the orders from the leading warmongers (including CIA). Karen DeYoung et al will continue spreading lies and disinformation (as provided by the “deciders”) to support their lifestyles. Even TruthDig has been changing its course towards greater subservience to the deep state, up to praising the “leader Pelosi.”
    If Americans have a vague understanding of an expression “good German,” today is a chance to get a light while observing the enthusiastic support by the whoring fourth estate for the status quo favored by plutocracy.

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    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych took shape under the guidance of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt who were caught in a phone call in late January or early February 2014 conspiring to impose new leadership inside Ukraine…”
     
    Great comment annamaria. I would tweak just a couple of words in this sentence to do more justice to the role Nudelman and Pyatt played by using the words they themselves used to describe their role:

    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych was glued together or mid-wifed by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt...
     
  106. @Chuck Orloski
    "Actually, to get around the law, the US government collects this data and transfers it to a third party that analyzes it for them..."

    Another top notch comment, geokat62!

    I respect the way you think and I have the following question that I feel will inspire a reply from you.

    What "law" do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not "break"?

    The U.S. "Law" (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.

    Below are my Ten Commandments in Reverse:

    1. You do not have to worship the Deep State, but never-ever dare fuck with it.

    2. Worship The Deep State's certified False Idols and mimic them only; i.e., not C. Lindbergh.

    3. Do not take any name honored by the The Deep State in vain! For 1-example, Sen. McCain.

    4. Only Big Banks and Wall Street can steal without facing disgrace & punishment.

    5. Covet anything you want as long as it's unaffiliated with The Sermon on the Mount.

    6. Abide by the original Ten Commandments and become just another "loser."

    7. Practice daily "10 Minutes Hate" for Iran and and Putin.

    8. Deep State war is "humanitarian" and civilian deaths are "collateral damage."

    9. All Deep State servants are equal, but some servants are more equal than others.

    10. The "Deep State" can commit mass murder of US citizens, i.e. 9-11, without accountability
    to any "Law" beyond that which they created from-on-"Low."

    What “law” do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not “break”?

    The U.S. “Law” (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.

    For me the pivotal point, Chuck, is when Bush senior launched a US-led coalition against Iraq in 1991. Taking a page from how the mafia operates, the US was able to mousetrap Saddam with minimal effort:

    July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

    Saddam Hussein – As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

    Saddam Hussein – If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – We have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960′s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

    On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145

    Although the neocons/Israel-firsters were disappointed that Bush did not finish the job by marching on Bagdad, they still felt exhilarated as the attack on Iraq demonstrated that the US was prepared to act unilaterally after the demise of the SU. The neocons described it as a unipolar moment for the US and Bush boldly announced the ushering in of the New World Order. Not to be undone, slick Willie followed-up with an attack of his own. This time the target was in the Balkans, the former Yugoslavia, and the justification was based on humanitarian grounds, a precursor to R2P. Unlike Gulf War 1, the US was unable to gain an UNSC resolution authorizing the attacks (both China and Russia indicated they would veto such a proposal).

    But these attacks were merely a dress rehearsal for the main event: the taking out 7 Muslim countries in 5 years, after the predicted new Pearl Harbor-type event came to pass.

    So, instead of reaping the benefits of an expected and hoped for peace dividend after the collapse of the SU, the US was prodded to fight more wars by taking on the role of world policeman. And who was pushing hardest for the US to take on that role? I’ll give you a clue:

    “Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel… Jews don’t like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States… American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don’t want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel.” – Irving Kristol

    https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol

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    geokat62,

    I have great respect for the way you think and express.

    As I made comment here @ Unz Review in the past, there was no greater damage done to Ithe Iraqi nation than that which was done by ex-CIA agent, Saddam Hussein.

    Rethink for a moment WHAT YOU HAVE DISPLAYED (above) & how Saddam contacted Ambassador Glaspie and gave her a (7/25/1990) "heads up" about his intent to invade Kuwait.
    Unless April was deep into a bottle of Jack Daniels, I can not accept that she failed to pass word about a possible attack upon a Gulf State onto a higher pay grade! Could you?

    Please follow me closely now, geokat62? Ideally, S2C & NoseyTheDuke too?

    President Saddam Hussein activated the mad-attack and his forces, including the elite Republican Guard, moved upon Kuwait in order to topple the crooked & Zionist-compliant government. S.N.L., "How convenient!"

    As U.S. satellite systems monitored such volatile Middle East turf, and "Operation Desert Shield" went into effect, I am wondering why the U.S. and G.H.W. Bush's vaunted "Coalition Forces" did not nail Saddam's invading forces directly after they got beyond Baghdad city limits. Why, geokat62? (In a similar vein, and to this very date, unwashed Americans are stymied as to why NORAD did not stop the airplanes that were aimed at the Twin Towers)

    After the U.S. "turkey shoot" (Pat Buchanan's tag!) of the entire invading Iraqi army, Saddam Hussein was conveniently sent back to his palace and the "Coalition" imposed a No Fly Zone. Shortly afterward, Monica Lewinsky's beau imposed murderous economic sanctions which harmed the long-suffering Iraqi population.

    Then came the most highly advertised U.S.-Zionist war that I have observed in my entire lifetime... Operation (??), Shock & Awe, April 2003. Had Saddam Hussein -- The Man of 20 Doubles -- been 1/10th as evil & street smart as advertised, he'd be lounging in a Catskill Mountain "Bed & Breakfast" before the first U.S. missiles touched ground in Baghdad.

    I simply can not accept that ex-CIA asset Saddam hid inside an underground hole while Baghdad was mercilessly bombed. Then the Hollywood-style tale of his capture by American troops... afterward an uncivilized lynching which even Pope (Ratzinger) Benedict complained about.

    geokat62, I truly believe U.S./Zionists effectively "mousetrapped" the American-Sheeple and called it "Desert Storm." And once one is persuaded into believing that O.B.L. was killed in Islamabad, one will be inclined to believe anything. Than you.

    P.S. great posts, annamaria, and thank you!
  107. @annamaria
    It looks like presstitutes do not care if they are caught lying, even when the factual information is widely available. A paycheck. There is no other explanation to their shameful opuses, such as the latest one by Karen DeYoung (of The Washington Post): https://consortiumnews.com/2017/02/18/the-did-you-talk-to-russians-witch-hunt/
    "...the Post’s senior foreign affairs writer Karen DeYoung on Friday described the civil war in Ukraine this way: “That conflict began when Russia invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014, then backed separatists in eastern Ukraine in what has become a grinding war, despite a deal to end it, called the Minsk agreement, negotiated with Putin by the leaders of France and Germany.” But DeYoung’s synopsis is simply not true. The crisis began in the fall of 2013 when Ukraine’s elected President Viktor Yanukovych backed out of what he regarded as a costly and unacceptable association agreement with the European Union, a move which prompted protests by Ukrainians in Kiev’s Maidan square. The Obama administration’s State Department, U.S. neocon politicians such as Sen. John McCain, and various U.S.-backed “non-governmental organizations” then stoked those protests against Yanukovych, which grew violent as trained ultra-nationalist and neo-Nazi street fighters poured in from western Ukraine. In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych took shape under the guidance of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt who were caught in a phone call in late January or early February 2014 conspiring to impose new leadership inside Ukraine..." [Guess DeYoung would never ever mention the Kagans' cabal - not enough moral fiber.]
    "Karen DeYoung also framed the Minsk agreement as if it were imposed on Putin when he was one of its principal proponents and architects, winning its approval in early 2015 at a time when the Ukrainian military was facing battlefield reversals...."

    The unraveling of DeYoung' lies (yes, Karen DeYoung is a liar) continues but it is doubtful that WP, DailyBeast, NYP, VICE news, and other openly presstituting "sources" are interested in facts. Their more-less comfortable existence is pegged to the orders from the leading warmongers (including CIA). Karen DeYoung et al will continue spreading lies and disinformation (as provided by the "deciders") to support their lifestyles. Even TruthDig has been changing its course towards greater subservience to the deep state, up to praising the "leader Pelosi."
    If Americans have a vague understanding of an expression "good German," today is a chance to get a light while observing the enthusiastic support by the whoring fourth estate for the status quo favored by plutocracy.

    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych took shape under the guidance of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt who were caught in a phone call in late January or early February 2014 conspiring to impose new leadership inside Ukraine…”

    Great comment annamaria. I would tweak just a couple of words in this sentence to do more justice to the role Nudelman and Pyatt played by using the words they themselves used to describe their role:

    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych was glued together or mid-wifed by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt…

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    • Replies: @nickels
    There were snipers in the maiden controlled buildings.

    Today's anti Trump protestors should realize that eventually their own people will shoot them.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnBa0Uj3Ijw
  108. How about a list of US government collaborators with Racist Israel?
    Just kidding! That would be every bum in the joint.

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  109. @geokat62

    What “law” do you think exists in the U.S.A. which Zionists are certain that they could not “break”?

    The U.S. “Law” (officially) fell on the day when the three (3) World Trade Center towers sizzled to the ground.
     
    For me the pivotal point, Chuck, is when Bush senior launched a US-led coalition against Iraq in 1991. Taking a page from how the mafia operates, the US was able to mousetrap Saddam with minimal effort:

    July 25, 1990 – Presidential Palace – Baghdad

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship – not confrontation – regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait’s borders?

    Saddam Hussein - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – What solutions would be acceptable?

    Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab – our strategic goal in our war with Iran – we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States’ opinion on this?

    U.S. Ambassador Glaspie – We have no opinion on your Arab – Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960′s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

    On August 2, 1990, Saddam massed troops to invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/gulf-war-documents-meeting-between-saddam-hussein-and-ambassador-to-iraq-april-glaspie/31145
     
    Although the neocons/Israel-firsters were disappointed that Bush did not finish the job by marching on Bagdad, they still felt exhilarated as the attack on Iraq demonstrated that the US was prepared to act unilaterally after the demise of the SU. The neocons described it as a unipolar moment for the US and Bush boldly announced the ushering in of the New World Order. Not to be undone, slick Willie followed-up with an attack of his own. This time the target was in the Balkans, the former Yugoslavia, and the justification was based on humanitarian grounds, a precursor to R2P. Unlike Gulf War 1, the US was unable to gain an UNSC resolution authorizing the attacks (both China and Russia indicated they would veto such a proposal).

    But these attacks were merely a dress rehearsal for the main event: the taking out 7 Muslim countries in 5 years, after the predicted new Pearl Harbor-type event came to pass.

    So, instead of reaping the benefits of an expected and hoped for peace dividend after the collapse of the SU, the US was prodded to fight more wars by taking on the role of world policeman. And who was pushing hardest for the US to take on that role? I'll give you a clue:

    "Senator McGovern is very sincere when he says that he will try to cut the military budget by 30%. And this is to drive a knife in the heart of Israel... Jews don't like big military budgets. But it is now an interest of the Jews to have a large and powerful military establishment in the United States... American Jews who care about the survival of the state of Israel have to say, no, we don't want to cut the military budget, it is important to keep that military budget big, so that we can defend Israel." - Irving Kristol

    https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol
     

    geokat62,

    I have great respect for the way you think and express.

    As I made comment here @ Unz Review in the past, there was no greater damage done to Ithe Iraqi nation than that which was done by ex-CIA agent, Saddam Hussein.

    Rethink for a moment WHAT YOU HAVE DISPLAYED (above) & how Saddam contacted Ambassador Glaspie and gave her a (7/25/1990) “heads up” about his intent to invade Kuwait.
    Unless April was deep into a bottle of Jack Daniels, I can not accept that she failed to pass word about a possible attack upon a Gulf State onto a higher pay grade! Could you?

    Please follow me closely now, geokat62? Ideally, S2C & NoseyTheDuke too?

    President Saddam Hussein activated the mad-attack and his forces, including the elite Republican Guard, moved upon Kuwait in order to topple the crooked & Zionist-compliant government. S.N.L., “How convenient!”

    As U.S. satellite systems monitored such volatile Middle East turf, and “Operation Desert Shield” went into effect, I am wondering why the U.S. and G.H.W. Bush’s vaunted “Coalition Forces” did not nail Saddam’s invading forces directly after they got beyond Baghdad city limits. Why, geokat62? (In a similar vein, and to this very date, unwashed Americans are stymied as to why NORAD did not stop the airplanes that were aimed at the Twin Towers)

    After the U.S. “turkey shoot” (Pat Buchanan’s tag!) of the entire invading Iraqi army, Saddam Hussein was conveniently sent back to his palace and the “Coalition” imposed a No Fly Zone. Shortly afterward, Monica Lewinsky’s beau imposed murderous economic sanctions which harmed the long-suffering Iraqi population.

    Then came the most highly advertised U.S.-Zionist war that I have observed in my entire lifetime… Operation (??), Shock & Awe, April 2003. Had Saddam Hussein — The Man of 20 Doubles — been 1/10th as evil & street smart as advertised, he’d be lounging in a Catskill Mountain “Bed & Breakfast” before the first U.S. missiles touched ground in Baghdad.

    I simply can not accept that ex-CIA asset Saddam hid inside an underground hole while Baghdad was mercilessly bombed. Then the Hollywood-style tale of his capture by American troops… afterward an uncivilized lynching which even Pope (Ratzinger) Benedict complained about.

    geokat62, I truly believe U.S./Zionists effectively “mousetrapped” the American-Sheeple and called it “Desert Storm.” And once one is persuaded into believing that O.B.L. was killed in Islamabad, one will be inclined to believe anything. Than you.

    P.S. great posts, annamaria, and thank you!

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    The Desert Storm was just a ruse to get back into the Persian Gulf. After the Iranian revolution, US had lost its base or the listening post in the gulf. They wanted that base to be in Saudi Arabia, the largest of the gulf Arab countries. Although the US military had presence in the country the Saudi did not want to allow the US to have base because of the opposition from the population. They needed a little push. The US tricked Saddam to achieve that goal. Saddam was thinking quid pro quo. He thought he will oblige the US and in return US will allow him to keep Kuwait.

    After taking Kuwait, Saddam dutifully marched towards Saudi Arabia, supposedly to attack it. US intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam's movement towards Riyadh. The King panicked and asked the US for help and thus Bush got the base he was looking for. Strangely enough Saddam, for some unexplained reason, stopped at the Kuwait-Saudi border on his own. People, who are familiar with the geography of the region, will know that it is not too far from the border to Riyadh. Saddam could have attacked Riyadh before the US forces would have mobilized to reach Riyadh, if he really wanted to attack her. Once the US force did mobilize, Saddam moved back to Kuwait. The Kuwait Emir had taken refuge in Saudi Arabia. To please the King, Bush stabbed Saddam in the back and attacked him in Kuwait and demanded his return. Hence the Dessert Storm.

    Although angry at Saddam for attacking Kuwait and threatening the Kingdom, the Saudis did not want him deposed. They needed him as a leverage against Iran. They just wanted him punished. Saddam's real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father. As they say, the rest is history.
  110. Trump could never take on the Jewish left unless it was for the sake of the Jewish Right and this is the reason why “revolutionaries” like Bannon keep heavy criticism limited to safe targets like Muslims. He wouldn’t dare point out Jewish corruption of Western/Christian culture instead he avoids this confrontation altogether by ducking behind the Judaic-Christian culture that he calls the West, what a rebel rouser. Trump established his Zionist credentials somewhere between the 50 year trail of Trump family contributions to Israel and doing Netanyahu campaign videos and being Grand Marshall of the Israeli Pride Parade in New York. Trump can’t free you from the grasp of the New York shylocks because he is a New York shylock.

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    There could be a possibility of a paradoxical situation when the former Soviet Jews in Israel initiate a direct communication with Russians in order to discuss (and "guide") the foreign policies of the US. That would be a step towards self-preservation. Theoretically, the former Soviets should have more common sense than the pampered US ziocons and other war profiteers that have been living in a facts-free environment.
    , @artichoke
    Evidently you missed David Friedman's realtalk about the difference between left and right Jews. If you missed it, a convenient summary is in Friedman's recent confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, because he walks back, recants and basically apologizes for every one of those comments he ever made, so you'll hear them.

    Corker's comments at the end about what a 2 state solution really means are good too. People are starting to talk in more understandable terms about these issues, and that's a symptom of Trump. It never happened before, ever, on these issues.

    Nevertheless, Trump will get Friedman as the US ambassador to Israel, and he's a hard right kind of guy for real. By the way did you notice all the Jews (all Orthodox) in Trump's very own family, as well as Jared Kushner? Not a single Reform Jew/Unitarian in the bunch. He's for real.
  111. @Art
    This week while Trump was playing kissy face with Netanyahu, the new head of the CIA was in Palestine talking (dictating) policy to the Palestinian political leader of the West Bank.

    Why is the CIA talking policy to anyone – is policy the purview of our spy agency? Is the CIA a policy agency or a spy agency?

    Should policy be secret? Everything the CIA does is privileged to be supper secret. Over 90% of congress cannot know what our current foreign policy is because it is secret.

    By the time our policy is known – it is too late to change it – we are already secretly committed.

    It is time to take the CIA down and return it to being ONLY a spy agency.

    Peace --- Art

    p.s. If the CIA had been doing its job of spying – the Iraq war would not have happened. Where was the CIA on 9/11? What an unbelievable total screw up they are.

    p.s. In the last 25 years, what in hell does the CIA have to be proud of?

    “In the last 25 years, what in the hell does the CIA to be proud of?”

    The CIA/Mossad should be proud of avoiding (both) confinement in Gitmo and international war crime-tribunal charges.

    Such is quite an amazing Houdini-achievement, eh?

    Thanks very much, Art!

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  112. @Mike Johnson
    Trump could never take on the Jewish left unless it was for the sake of the Jewish Right and this is the reason why "revolutionaries" like Bannon keep heavy criticism limited to safe targets like Muslims. He wouldn't dare point out Jewish corruption of Western/Christian culture instead he avoids this confrontation altogether by ducking behind the Judaic-Christian culture that he calls the West, what a rebel rouser. Trump established his Zionist credentials somewhere between the 50 year trail of Trump family contributions to Israel and doing Netanyahu campaign videos and being Grand Marshall of the Israeli Pride Parade in New York. Trump can't free you from the grasp of the New York shylocks because he is a New York shylock.

    There could be a possibility of a paradoxical situation when the former Soviet Jews in Israel initiate a direct communication with Russians in order to discuss (and “guide”) the foreign policies of the US. That would be a step towards self-preservation. Theoretically, the former Soviets should have more common sense than the pampered US ziocons and other war profiteers that have been living in a facts-free environment.

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  113. @Man on the street
    Regarding Trump stopping TEMPORARILY certain people from 7 ME countries, which are not friendly to America. THE HYSTERIA makes me wonder if the libturds selective indignation is simply fake act. Why no one on the right or the left ever talks about how unfair it is to ban Cubans from coming to America for 50 freaking years. At least Trump "ban" is for three month.

    The liberals hated the policy for presuming to be able to stop the bleeding (into the country) of undesirables. And they celebrated when a court stuck it in Trump’s eye.

    They love it. But except for a single flood, I believe Trump will just extremely vet these people, and since Syria, Somalia etc. don’t have functioning governments and so the vetting cannot be completed, that will take care of the same would-be immigrants.

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  114. @Mike Johnson
    Trump could never take on the Jewish left unless it was for the sake of the Jewish Right and this is the reason why "revolutionaries" like Bannon keep heavy criticism limited to safe targets like Muslims. He wouldn't dare point out Jewish corruption of Western/Christian culture instead he avoids this confrontation altogether by ducking behind the Judaic-Christian culture that he calls the West, what a rebel rouser. Trump established his Zionist credentials somewhere between the 50 year trail of Trump family contributions to Israel and doing Netanyahu campaign videos and being Grand Marshall of the Israeli Pride Parade in New York. Trump can't free you from the grasp of the New York shylocks because he is a New York shylock.

    Evidently you missed David Friedman’s realtalk about the difference between left and right Jews. If you missed it, a convenient summary is in Friedman’s recent confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, because he walks back, recants and basically apologizes for every one of those comments he ever made, so you’ll hear them.

    Corker’s comments at the end about what a 2 state solution really means are good too. People are starting to talk in more understandable terms about these issues, and that’s a symptom of Trump. It never happened before, ever, on these issues.

    Nevertheless, Trump will get Friedman as the US ambassador to Israel, and he’s a hard right kind of guy for real. By the way did you notice all the Jews (all Orthodox) in Trump’s very own family, as well as Jared Kushner? Not a single Reform Jew/Unitarian in the bunch. He’s for real.

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    Evidently you missed David Friedman’s realtalk about the difference between left and right Jews. If you missed it, a convenient summary is in Friedman’s recent confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, because he walks back, recants and basically apologizes for every one of those comments he ever made, so you’ll hear them.
     
    Do not believe Friedman’s senate words - he is a Jew - he will lie at the drop of a hat. A man with his hate, does not change is stripes.

    He represents Jews and Israel - not America or Trump.

    Peace --- Art
  115. @geokat62

    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych took shape under the guidance of U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt who were caught in a phone call in late January or early February 2014 conspiring to impose new leadership inside Ukraine…”
     
    Great comment annamaria. I would tweak just a couple of words in this sentence to do more justice to the role Nudelman and Pyatt played by using the words they themselves used to describe their role:

    In early 2014, a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Yanukovych was glued together or mid-wifed by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt...
     

    There were snipers in the maiden controlled buildings.

    Today’s anti Trump protestors should realize that eventually their own people will shoot them.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xnBa0Uj3Ijw

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  116. @War for Blair Mountain
    Nickels

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    Some things are worth fighting for and dying for...I'm mentally ready for it...the basement of the US has been filled to the brim with Racial gasoline since 1965....one match away....

    Let them overthrow Trump…it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US.

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    War for Blair Mt.:

    You need to try to improve your English language fluency. I notice that a number of foreigners, probably Muzzims, have started posting at iSteve recently.

    And aren’t you semi-stealing the identity of another poster who goes by “Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain”?

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    Extensionally,intensionally...intentianally equivalent commenter...Unz Review was notified of the handle change....

    I prefer to post in a late 16th-17th century syntactical style.....lots of nested...... ........ and - - - -


    Think Swift.....

  117. Thanks to Pat Buchanan for presenting the facts so clearly and logically. Very upsetting to see General Flynn taken down by the security apparatus through such a corrupt abuse of power. I do agree that the main point here is, “The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career.” I am tired of Bill Kristol and his ilk, an ugly lot if there ever was, that push the world to war and suffering. If any one of them had to go to the front line of a war zone, they would probably piss their pants faster than the cowards that they truly are. Take a look at a picture of that crew sometime, images of criminal pigs. It is time for Americans to take back the country to serve the interests of Americans, not the deep state or their corrupt media. The deep state will look to impeach Trump.

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    "...Bill Kristol and his ilk, an ugly lot if there ever was, that push the world to war and suffering."
    They are progeny of dwellers from eastern european shtettles; specifically, they are a product of the noisy, aggressive, and barely educated mediocrities. Just listen to their obnoxious and pretentious "discussions" filled with silly and irritating snootiness and "we know better." At a closer observation, one could see that their loudest are trying to cover their pettiness with grandiose plans and speeches. Unfortunately, the grandiose plans factor in "other" peoples' money & limb.
    Here is an interesting collection of short responses to the supposedly growing gap between Israeli and American Jews: http://www.momentmag.com/growing-gap-israel-american-jews/
  118. @War for Blair Mountain
    You are a 9/11 Truther Nutter..

    The MUZZIES did 9/11...and it wasn't all that difficult...the MUZZIES just took advantage of millions of jock sniffing White Males who were more interested in NFL NEGRO ball than post-1965 Immigration Policy..


    No Muslims in our Ameri a....0 probability of 9/11 ever occurring....it was-is this easy...


    The DEEP STATE Theorists attribute way too much intelligence and competence to the DEEP STATE...there is nothing very deep about them at all...they are just taking advantage of a population of White Americans who spend their precious time on this planet watching hours of Negro Ball...

    Imagine an America that was still 90 percent Native Ball White Americans...Hillary Clinton not even a viable candidate in 2017...forget Chelsea 2020......no internal coup against Trump....because Hillary Clinton's nonwhite Democratic Party Voting wouldn't exist...the COMET PIZZA HOMO PEDOPHILES of the "DEEP STATE" would have no political power....

    I did….you just want to write Donald Trump a great big check to use Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers as CANON FODDER for Greater Israel…

    From which Planet did fall off? Is the “Blair Mountain” named after Tony Blair, the Prime Minister? You are still living in dark ages. American military has been an all volunteer army for quite some time. If “Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers” are cannon fodder for Israel, it is because they choose to be one.

    If you are not the cannon fodder and don’t watch “Negro Ball” you must be watching CNN because that is the level of intelligence you are demonstrating. You need to hook up with the “self proclaimed Mensa member.”

    Maybe if the “Native Born White American cannon fodder” had been kept in the White America and not sent to invade the Muslim countries, then the “Muzzies” may not have done 9/11, if they actually did it. But don’t forget your good bosom buddies the Israelis.

    You need to take a bath and rinse all that 60′s racism. The America of today does not need people like you.

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    Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers "choose" to be in the Military...US Military Recruiters know this and build their tv advertising around this....this is your first lie....I write from experience....

    9/11 was the intersection of US foriegn policy and immigration policy...it does not follow from this that The Native Born White American Christian Majority should tolerate the presence of Muslim "Americans" within the borders of the US...no Muslims in America...9/11 never happens...


    The Historic Native Born White Americans is under no obligation to committ demographic suicide within the borders of America because Chinese "Americans" demand it...because Pakistani "Muslims" demand it...and because Hindu "Americans demand it...


    The nonwhite Democratic Party Voting demands racial minority status for The Historic Native Born White American Majority....this is a declaration of a RACE WAR!!!!
  119. @Chuck Orloski
    geokat62,

    I have great respect for the way you think and express.

    As I made comment here @ Unz Review in the past, there was no greater damage done to Ithe Iraqi nation than that which was done by ex-CIA agent, Saddam Hussein.

    Rethink for a moment WHAT YOU HAVE DISPLAYED (above) & how Saddam contacted Ambassador Glaspie and gave her a (7/25/1990) "heads up" about his intent to invade Kuwait.
    Unless April was deep into a bottle of Jack Daniels, I can not accept that she failed to pass word about a possible attack upon a Gulf State onto a higher pay grade! Could you?

    Please follow me closely now, geokat62? Ideally, S2C & NoseyTheDuke too?

    President Saddam Hussein activated the mad-attack and his forces, including the elite Republican Guard, moved upon Kuwait in order to topple the crooked & Zionist-compliant government. S.N.L., "How convenient!"

    As U.S. satellite systems monitored such volatile Middle East turf, and "Operation Desert Shield" went into effect, I am wondering why the U.S. and G.H.W. Bush's vaunted "Coalition Forces" did not nail Saddam's invading forces directly after they got beyond Baghdad city limits. Why, geokat62? (In a similar vein, and to this very date, unwashed Americans are stymied as to why NORAD did not stop the airplanes that were aimed at the Twin Towers)

    After the U.S. "turkey shoot" (Pat Buchanan's tag!) of the entire invading Iraqi army, Saddam Hussein was conveniently sent back to his palace and the "Coalition" imposed a No Fly Zone. Shortly afterward, Monica Lewinsky's beau imposed murderous economic sanctions which harmed the long-suffering Iraqi population.

    Then came the most highly advertised U.S.-Zionist war that I have observed in my entire lifetime... Operation (??), Shock & Awe, April 2003. Had Saddam Hussein -- The Man of 20 Doubles -- been 1/10th as evil & street smart as advertised, he'd be lounging in a Catskill Mountain "Bed & Breakfast" before the first U.S. missiles touched ground in Baghdad.

    I simply can not accept that ex-CIA asset Saddam hid inside an underground hole while Baghdad was mercilessly bombed. Then the Hollywood-style tale of his capture by American troops... afterward an uncivilized lynching which even Pope (Ratzinger) Benedict complained about.

    geokat62, I truly believe U.S./Zionists effectively "mousetrapped" the American-Sheeple and called it "Desert Storm." And once one is persuaded into believing that O.B.L. was killed in Islamabad, one will be inclined to believe anything. Than you.

    P.S. great posts, annamaria, and thank you!

    The Desert Storm was just a ruse to get back into the Persian Gulf. After the Iranian revolution, US had lost its base or the listening post in the gulf. They wanted that base to be in Saudi Arabia, the largest of the gulf Arab countries. Although the US military had presence in the country the Saudi did not want to allow the US to have base because of the opposition from the population. They needed a little push. The US tricked Saddam to achieve that goal. Saddam was thinking quid pro quo. He thought he will oblige the US and in return US will allow him to keep Kuwait.

    After taking Kuwait, Saddam dutifully marched towards Saudi Arabia, supposedly to attack it. US intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam’s movement towards Riyadh. The King panicked and asked the US for help and thus Bush got the base he was looking for. Strangely enough Saddam, for some unexplained reason, stopped at the Kuwait-Saudi border on his own. People, who are familiar with the geography of the region, will know that it is not too far from the border to Riyadh. Saddam could have attacked Riyadh before the US forces would have mobilized to reach Riyadh, if he really wanted to attack her. Once the US force did mobilize, Saddam moved back to Kuwait. The Kuwait Emir had taken refuge in Saudi Arabia. To please the King, Bush stabbed Saddam in the back and attacked him in Kuwait and demanded his return. Hence the Dessert Storm.

    Although angry at Saddam for attacking Kuwait and threatening the Kingdom, the Saudis did not want him deposed. They needed him as a leverage against Iran. They just wanted him punished. Saddam’s real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father. As they say, the rest is history.

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    Saddam’s real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father.
     
    While I agree with most of your comment, I think you ascribe, as many others have, too much importance on the retaliation angle for the Clinton and Bush Jr. attacks on Iraq and not enough to the influence of The Lobby.

    For example, let's reflect on the circumstances surrounding the political environment in which Clinton decided to attack Iraq:

    Lewinsky claimed to have had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton on nine occasions from November 1995 to March 1997.

    On October 31, 1998 Clinton signed into law H.R. 4655, the Iraq Liberation Act. The new Act appropriated funds for Iraqi opposition groups in the hope of removing Saddam Hussein from power and replacing his regime with a democracy.

    Some critics of the Clinton administration expressed concern over the timing of Operation Desert Fox. The four-day bombing campaign occurred at the same time the U.S. House of Representatives was conducting the impeachment hearing of President Clinton. Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, the last day of the bombing campaign. A few months earlier, similar criticism was levelled during Operation Infinite Reach, wherein missile strikes were ordered against suspected terrorist bases in Sudan and Afghanistan, on 20 August. The missile strikes began three days after Clinton was called to testify before a grand jury during the Lewinsky scandal and his subsequent nationally televised address later that evening in which Clinton admitted having an inappropriate relationship.

    The Operation Infinite Reach attacks became known as "Monica's War" among TV news people, due to the timing. ABC-TV announced to all stations that there would be a special report following Lewinsky's testimony before Congress, then the special report was pre-empted by the report of the missile attacks. The combination of the timing of that attack and Operation Desert Fox led to accusations of a Wag the Dog situation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Iraq_(1998)
     
    As for the motivation for Bush Jr. to invade Iraq, see Mearsheimer and Walt's The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy.
    , @Chuck Orloski
    U.S. intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam Hussein's march toward Saudi Arabia... "The King panicked and asked the U.S for help and thus President H.W. Bush got the base he was looking for."

    MEexpert,

    I appreciate your having made learned response to my comment.

    However, during the years, 2012-March 2014, I worked with a fellow rather young manager, Robert M., who served in the U.S. Air Force base in Riyadh. (Bob told me that the U.S. Riyadh Air base air base had advanced camera technology that could view human activity within fortified base-buildings!) Moments ago, I Google-searched to determine precisely when the Riyadh U.S. air base opened for business. Best date available (for me) is that it began in 1983!

    Therefore, and without an intent to contradict your knowledge, it seems G.H.W. Bush at best got the opportunity to expand the American Air force base at Riyadh.

    (Note: Ancient history indicates Riyadh was a walled city which helped separate Mecca from the Iranians)

    At any rate, G.W.H. Bush's long career, including being CIA Director, suggests a willingness to stab anyone in-the-back to serve the oily Royal Saud family, and it certainly should have came as no surprise to CIA-Man, Saddam Hussein, that Papa Bush would stab him in the back.

    As I gave consideration to your very thoughtful review of "Desert Storm," I ask you to consider the documented historical Bromance that Donald Rumsfeld fostered with Saddam Hussein. Please take a gander at the brief You Tube video, below?

    (While watching, please be aware that young Congressman Donald Rumsfeld (Illinois) wrote a American Zionist Council-inspired letter to A.G. Robert F. Kennedy on the hot topic of the administration's effort to make the A.Z.C. register as a foreign agent)

    Sincere thanks again, MEexpert, and below is the video featuring arch-Zionist Donald Rumsfeld chumming it up with who I believe was a crypto-Zionist, Saddam Hussein.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WofUf8m_k

    Post scriptum: New Bunker Hill calling S2C, geokat62, annamaria, NoseyTheDuke, and the good "Anon," Keith!
  120. Just what difference does it make anymore. It appears that we are just going to get more of the same,Pence shaking Porky’s hand, save maybe a few corrections to the “Homeland” and more wars for what used to be Palestine since it also appears that Bibi now owns the Don. So much for Americas niativity.
    Sold out again? You decide. I’m just disappointed and so Life goes on…

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  121. @Svigor
    Actually, Trump should consider seconding a military unit to the White House, to handle his comms. Make sure to request personnel files on every relevant unit in the military, so the security apparatus pukes have no idea which one you're going to choose.

    Now that I mention the military, it occurs that is where he should go to find replacements for all the Hussein security apparatus hires he needs to fire, too.

    68 Svigor > Actually, Trump should consider seconding a military unit to the White House, to handle his comms

    White House Communications Agency only advertises for recruitment on American Forces Network

    Which is transmitted under encryption, by the way.

    the encryption ain’t THAT strong….. here on base, we were able to see your Superbowl, courtesy of a T1-patch by Yekhidat 8200.

    Man, you white guys can manufacture some foxy cheerleaders…..

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  122. @Not Optimistic
    Thanks to Pat Buchanan for presenting the facts so clearly and logically. Very upsetting to see General Flynn taken down by the security apparatus through such a corrupt abuse of power. I do agree that the main point here is, "The real crime is the criminal conspiracy inside the deep state to transcribe the private conversation of a U.S. citizen and leak it to press collaborators to destroy a political career." I am tired of Bill Kristol and his ilk, an ugly lot if there ever was, that push the world to war and suffering. If any one of them had to go to the front line of a war zone, they would probably piss their pants faster than the cowards that they truly are. Take a look at a picture of that crew sometime, images of criminal pigs. It is time for Americans to take back the country to serve the interests of Americans, not the deep state or their corrupt media. The deep state will look to impeach Trump.

    “…Bill Kristol and his ilk, an ugly lot if there ever was, that push the world to war and suffering.”
    They are progeny of dwellers from eastern european shtettles; specifically, they are a product of the noisy, aggressive, and barely educated mediocrities. Just listen to their obnoxious and pretentious “discussions” filled with silly and irritating snootiness and “we know better.” At a closer observation, one could see that their loudest are trying to cover their pettiness with grandiose plans and speeches. Unfortunately, the grandiose plans factor in “other” peoples’ money & limb.
    Here is an interesting collection of short responses to the supposedly growing gap between Israeli and American Jews: http://www.momentmag.com/growing-gap-israel-american-jews/

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  123. @MEexpert
    The Desert Storm was just a ruse to get back into the Persian Gulf. After the Iranian revolution, US had lost its base or the listening post in the gulf. They wanted that base to be in Saudi Arabia, the largest of the gulf Arab countries. Although the US military had presence in the country the Saudi did not want to allow the US to have base because of the opposition from the population. They needed a little push. The US tricked Saddam to achieve that goal. Saddam was thinking quid pro quo. He thought he will oblige the US and in return US will allow him to keep Kuwait.

    After taking Kuwait, Saddam dutifully marched towards Saudi Arabia, supposedly to attack it. US intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam's movement towards Riyadh. The King panicked and asked the US for help and thus Bush got the base he was looking for. Strangely enough Saddam, for some unexplained reason, stopped at the Kuwait-Saudi border on his own. People, who are familiar with the geography of the region, will know that it is not too far from the border to Riyadh. Saddam could have attacked Riyadh before the US forces would have mobilized to reach Riyadh, if he really wanted to attack her. Once the US force did mobilize, Saddam moved back to Kuwait. The Kuwait Emir had taken refuge in Saudi Arabia. To please the King, Bush stabbed Saddam in the back and attacked him in Kuwait and demanded his return. Hence the Dessert Storm.

    Although angry at Saddam for attacking Kuwait and threatening the Kingdom, the Saudis did not want him deposed. They needed him as a leverage against Iran. They just wanted him punished. Saddam's real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father. As they say, the rest is history.

    Saddam’s real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father.

    While I agree with most of your comment, I think you ascribe, as many others have, too much importance on the retaliation angle for the Clinton and Bush Jr. attacks on Iraq and not enough to the influence of The Lobby.

    For example, let’s reflect on the circumstances surrounding the political environment in which Clinton decided to attack Iraq:

    Lewinsky claimed to have had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton on nine occasions from November 1995 to March 1997.

    On October 31, 1998 Clinton signed into law H.R. 4655, the Iraq Liberation Act. The new Act appropriated funds for Iraqi opposition groups in the hope of removing Saddam Hussein from power and replacing his regime with a democracy.

    Some critics of the Clinton administration expressed concern over the timing of Operation Desert Fox. The four-day bombing campaign occurred at the same time the U.S. House of Representatives was conducting the impeachment hearing of President Clinton. Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, the last day of the bombing campaign. A few months earlier, similar criticism was levelled during Operation Infinite Reach, wherein missile strikes were ordered against suspected terrorist bases in Sudan and Afghanistan, on 20 August. The missile strikes began three days after Clinton was called to testify before a grand jury during the Lewinsky scandal and his subsequent nationally televised address later that evening in which Clinton admitted having an inappropriate relationship.

    The Operation Infinite Reach attacks became known as “Monica’s War” among TV news people, due to the timing. ABC-TV announced to all stations that there would be a special report following Lewinsky’s testimony before Congress, then the special report was pre-empted by the report of the missile attacks. The combination of the timing of that attack and Operation Desert Fox led to accusations of a Wag the Dog situation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Iraq_(1998)

    As for the motivation for Bush Jr. to invade Iraq, see Mearsheimer and Walt’s The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy.

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    "For example, let's reflect upon the circumstances surrounding the political environment in which the Clinton administration decided to attack Iraq."

    geokat62,

    In Gordon Thomas's book "Gideon's Spies, the author astutely examined "The political environment in which the Clinton administration decided to attack Iraq." To be objective, below is a "link" to The Washington Post review of "Gideon's Spies."

    http://www.wrmea.org/1999-april-may/gideons*-spies-the-secret-history-of-the-mossad.html

    As you are aware, President Clinton paid a huge price for his refusal to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu.

    The Mossad knew Bill Clinton's great fatal flaw was his being an unsatiated skin hound. Enter (Jewish) Monica Lewinsky, age 23, as a very affectionate White House intern. Suddenly, Monica shared the story about her giving a B.J. to the president resulted in leaving a cum stain on her dress.

    Enter Linda Tripp who I have heard enjoyed close relationships with Zionists. Trying to be a "good friend," Linda immediately advised Monica to not take her stained dress to a dry cleaner.
    Soon the stained dress provided evidence that enabled Benjamin Netanyahu to take Bill Clinton for a thorough "monkey wash and donkey rinse."

    Post scriptum: As you're aware, geokat62, The Starr Report indicated that a "foreign government" was wiretapping President Clinton's White House telephone conversations. Of course, The Corporate Media never followed up on this particular finding! I do not think Mr. Starr was referring to either Slobo Milosevic's Serbia or Saddam's Baathist party government -- do you?

    Thanks to you and War for Blair Mountain -- I do not want war with you gents, and I keep faith that thoughtful replies will appear here soon!
  124. @MEexpert

    I did….you just want to write Donald Trump a great big check to use Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers as CANON FODDER for Greater Israel…
     
    From which Planet did fall off? Is the "Blair Mountain" named after Tony Blair, the Prime Minister? You are still living in dark ages. American military has been an all volunteer army for quite some time. If "Native Born White American Working Class Teenagers" are cannon fodder for Israel, it is because they choose to be one.

    If you are not the cannon fodder and don't watch "Negro Ball" you must be watching CNN because that is the level of intelligence you are demonstrating. You need to hook up with the "self proclaimed Mensa member."

    Maybe if the "Native Born White American cannon fodder" had been kept in the White America and not sent to invade the Muslim countries, then the "Muzzies" may not have done 9/11, if they actually did it. But don't forget your good bosom buddies the Israelis.

    You need to take a bath and rinse all that 60's racism. The America of today does not need people like you.

    Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers “choose” to be in the Military…US Military Recruiters know this and build their tv advertising around this….this is your first lie….I write from experience….

    9/11 was the intersection of US foriegn policy and immigration policy…it does not follow from this that The Native Born White American Christian Majority should tolerate the presence of Muslim “Americans” within the borders of the US…no Muslims in America…9/11 never happens…

    The Historic Native Born White Americans is under no obligation to committ demographic suicide within the borders of America because Chinese “Americans” demand it…because Pakistani “Muslims” demand it…and because Hindu “Americans demand it…

    The nonwhite Democratic Party Voting demands racial minority status for The Historic Native Born White American Majority….this is a declaration of a RACE WAR!!!!

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    9/11 was the intersection of US foriegn policy and immigration policy…it does not follow from this that The Native Born White American Christian Majority should tolerate the presence of Muslim “Americans” within the borders of the US…no Muslims in America…9/11 never happens…
     
    In 2001, about 3000 people died in 9/11. Since then US has killed or displaced millions of people around the world, has destabilized several countries and continue to stick her nose where it doesn’t belong and continues to wreak havoc on innocent people.

    In 2002, there were more than 43,000 auto related deaths in the US. Latest figure available, for 2015 shows that more than 35,000 people were killed in car related accidents. In 2015, there were 33,000 gun related deaths.

    One must conclude, as it is quite obvious, that 9/11 was just an excuse or a false flag, to put into operation what the US is all about and that is to control the world. All the terrorists attacks since 2001 have been sting operations by the FBI. With billions of dollars spent on counter intelligence operations, the intelligence agencies cannot prevent these, so called, terrorrist attacks on the homeland. Why do we need these agencies?

    Since the probability of dying by a gun or a car accident is ten thousand times more than death by a Muslim terorist attack, we must expel all the automobiles and all the guns along with all the "Native born White Americans" from the United States, since chances are that those automobiles and the guns were being used by them.
  125. @MEexpert
    The Desert Storm was just a ruse to get back into the Persian Gulf. After the Iranian revolution, US had lost its base or the listening post in the gulf. They wanted that base to be in Saudi Arabia, the largest of the gulf Arab countries. Although the US military had presence in the country the Saudi did not want to allow the US to have base because of the opposition from the population. They needed a little push. The US tricked Saddam to achieve that goal. Saddam was thinking quid pro quo. He thought he will oblige the US and in return US will allow him to keep Kuwait.

    After taking Kuwait, Saddam dutifully marched towards Saudi Arabia, supposedly to attack it. US intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam's movement towards Riyadh. The King panicked and asked the US for help and thus Bush got the base he was looking for. Strangely enough Saddam, for some unexplained reason, stopped at the Kuwait-Saudi border on his own. People, who are familiar with the geography of the region, will know that it is not too far from the border to Riyadh. Saddam could have attacked Riyadh before the US forces would have mobilized to reach Riyadh, if he really wanted to attack her. Once the US force did mobilize, Saddam moved back to Kuwait. The Kuwait Emir had taken refuge in Saudi Arabia. To please the King, Bush stabbed Saddam in the back and attacked him in Kuwait and demanded his return. Hence the Dessert Storm.

    Although angry at Saddam for attacking Kuwait and threatening the Kingdom, the Saudis did not want him deposed. They needed him as a leverage against Iran. They just wanted him punished. Saddam's real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father. As they say, the rest is history.

    U.S. intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam Hussein’s march toward Saudi Arabia… “The King panicked and asked the U.S for help and thus President H.W. Bush got the base he was looking for.”

    MEexpert,

    I appreciate your having made learned response to my comment.

    However, during the years, 2012-March 2014, I worked with a fellow rather young manager, Robert M., who served in the U.S. Air Force base in Riyadh. (Bob told me that the U.S. Riyadh Air base air base had advanced camera technology that could view human activity within fortified base-buildings!) Moments ago, I Google-searched to determine precisely when the Riyadh U.S. air base opened for business. Best date available (for me) is that it began in 1983!

    Therefore, and without an intent to contradict your knowledge, it seems G.H.W. Bush at best got the opportunity to expand the American Air force base at Riyadh.

    (Note: Ancient history indicates Riyadh was a walled city which helped separate Mecca from the Iranians)

    At any rate, G.W.H. Bush’s long career, including being CIA Director, suggests a willingness to stab anyone in-the-back to serve the oily Royal Saud family, and it certainly should have came as no surprise to CIA-Man, Saddam Hussein, that Papa Bush would stab him in the back.

    As I gave consideration to your very thoughtful review of “Desert Storm,” I ask you to consider the documented historical Bromance that Donald Rumsfeld fostered with Saddam Hussein. Please take a gander at the brief You Tube video, below?

    (While watching, please be aware that young Congressman Donald Rumsfeld (Illinois) wrote a American Zionist Council-inspired letter to A.G. Robert F. Kennedy on the hot topic of the administration’s effort to make the A.Z.C. register as a foreign agent)

    Sincere thanks again, MEexpert, and below is the video featuring arch-Zionist Donald Rumsfeld chumming it up with who I believe was a crypto-Zionist, Saddam Hussein.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WofUf8m_k

    Post scriptum: New Bunker Hill calling S2C, geokat62, annamaria, NoseyTheDuke, and the good “Anon,” Keith!

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    I agree with most of your comments. I travelled off and on to Saudi Arabia during the 80s while working for an aerospace company. I also lived there in the late 70s. There was American and British military presence there but the US did not have a formal base at the time. They had couple of AVACS stationed to monitor the Iraq-Iran war. One of the AVACS used to be in the air all the time. I have not forgotten the Zionist involvement in all US actions in the middle east.

    After the Desert Storm, when the hostilities calmed down, the Saudis demanded that US end the military presence in the Kingdom. If you had followed the events in those days, which by the way I was doing at the time, you would have noticed that Saddam was told to move again towards Saudi Arabia. Again Saudis panicked and the US stayed.

    It was Papa Bush who gave signals to the Kurds and Shiite to rise up against Saddam but did not give them any material support. Saddam took deadly revenge on both Shiites and Kurds by gassing them. There was no safe zone as demanded these days in Syria. Gen. Schwarzkoph wrote about his frustration to see Saddam's helicopters bombing the helpless Shiite villages in the South but he was under orders not to intervene.

    When it comes to middle east the Zio-neocon angle can never be discounted. Every US president is subservient to the Israeli commands.

    Thank you for your comments.
  126. LOL! The usual suspects on the Sunday ‘talking heads’ shows. The shills for the cabal and the deep state, lavender Lindsey Graham on CBS and ‘Nuts’ McCain on NBC attacking Trump. McCain from a foreign venue!
    Question to CBS and NBC: Why not get any other two Senators, besides these two tired hacks, to talk about the Trump administration?

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  127. @geokat62

    Saddam’s real crime was that he tried to get revenge from this treachery by trying to Kill the elder Bush. First Clinton bombed Iraq to punish Saddam for that and later the younger Bush attacked to, supposedly, avenge the attack on his father.
     
    While I agree with most of your comment, I think you ascribe, as many others have, too much importance on the retaliation angle for the Clinton and Bush Jr. attacks on Iraq and not enough to the influence of The Lobby.

    For example, let's reflect on the circumstances surrounding the political environment in which Clinton decided to attack Iraq:

    Lewinsky claimed to have had sexual encounters with Bill Clinton on nine occasions from November 1995 to March 1997.

    On October 31, 1998 Clinton signed into law H.R. 4655, the Iraq Liberation Act. The new Act appropriated funds for Iraqi opposition groups in the hope of removing Saddam Hussein from power and replacing his regime with a democracy.

    Some critics of the Clinton administration expressed concern over the timing of Operation Desert Fox. The four-day bombing campaign occurred at the same time the U.S. House of Representatives was conducting the impeachment hearing of President Clinton. Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998, the last day of the bombing campaign. A few months earlier, similar criticism was levelled during Operation Infinite Reach, wherein missile strikes were ordered against suspected terrorist bases in Sudan and Afghanistan, on 20 August. The missile strikes began three days after Clinton was called to testify before a grand jury during the Lewinsky scandal and his subsequent nationally televised address later that evening in which Clinton admitted having an inappropriate relationship.

    The Operation Infinite Reach attacks became known as "Monica's War" among TV news people, due to the timing. ABC-TV announced to all stations that there would be a special report following Lewinsky's testimony before Congress, then the special report was pre-empted by the report of the missile attacks. The combination of the timing of that attack and Operation Desert Fox led to accusations of a Wag the Dog situation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Iraq_(1998)
     
    As for the motivation for Bush Jr. to invade Iraq, see Mearsheimer and Walt's The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy.

    “For example, let’s reflect upon the circumstances surrounding the political environment in which the Clinton administration decided to attack Iraq.”

    geokat62,

    In Gordon Thomas’s book “Gideon’s Spies, the author astutely examined “The political environment in which the Clinton administration decided to attack Iraq.” To be objective, below is a “link” to The Washington Post review of “Gideon’s Spies.”

    http://www.wrmea.org/1999-april-may/gideons*-spies-the-secret-history-of-the-mossad.html

    As you are aware, President Clinton paid a huge price for his refusal to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu.

    The Mossad knew Bill Clinton’s great fatal flaw was his being an unsatiated skin hound. Enter (Jewish) Monica Lewinsky, age 23, as a very affectionate White House intern. Suddenly, Monica shared the story about her giving a B.J. to the president resulted in leaving a cum stain on her dress.

    Enter Linda Tripp who I have heard enjoyed close relationships with Zionists. Trying to be a “good friend,” Linda immediately advised Monica to not take her stained dress to a dry cleaner.
    Soon the stained dress provided evidence that enabled Benjamin Netanyahu to take Bill Clinton for a thorough “monkey wash and donkey rinse.”

    Post scriptum: As you’re aware, geokat62, The Starr Report indicated that a “foreign government” was wiretapping President Clinton’s White House telephone conversations. Of course, The Corporate Media never followed up on this particular finding! I do not think Mr. Starr was referring to either Slobo Milosevic’s Serbia or Saddam’s Baathist party government — do you?

    Thanks to you and War for Blair Mountain — I do not want war with you gents, and I keep faith that thoughtful replies will appear here soon!

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  128. @David Davenport
    Let them overthrow Trump…it will provoke a race war and the collapse of the US.

    What are the consequences of being White racial foriegner in post-white ecological collapsed overpopulated US?

    War for Blair Mt.:

    You need to try to improve your English language fluency. I notice that a number of foreigners, probably Muzzims, have started posting at iSteve recently.

    And aren't you semi-stealing the identity of another poster who goes by "Groovy Battle for Blair Mountain"?

    Extensionally,intensionally…intentianally equivalent commenter…Unz Review was notified of the handle change….

    I prefer to post in a late 16th-17th century syntactical style…..lots of nested…… …….. and – – – -

    Think Swift…..

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  129. And given my luv for the Haskell programming language…I am very seriously thinking of posting exclusively in terms of set builder notation….curried lists…monads…and monoids for greater syntactical and conceptual clarity-and verbal abuse….don’t tempt me!!!

    The Haskell version of Swift….curried Swift!!!

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    "An given my luv for the Haskell programming language..."

    That's fantastic, "War for Blair Mountain." As a 1950's kid, I had love for Eddie Haskell's language, popularized TV's "Leave it to Beaver."

    At any rate, upon return from a rather long walk, encompassing my Taylor PA apartment to the hills of S. Scranton, I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130. You have "The Right" to silence and perhaps I am too arrogant to realize such.

    At any rate, while walking, I began to consider Jonathan Swift's tremendous classic satire. Travels." Step by step, nearby St. Mary's Greek Catholic Cemetery, it dawned on me how current American public literature education-curriculum has youth weaned on "Harry Potter"
    liver's Travels." Shall I request a round of applause for the triumphant Frankfurt School?

    Recall how Jonathan Swift's skilled satire pissed off the early 18th century ruling "Whigs"? Today, I note how Britain's Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks wants to have Stephen Stephen
    Hawkings criminalized for his refusal to profess "luv" for Israel. Ugh.

    (F.Y.I., recently, Stephen Hawkings met with Pope Francis who is on record of being in favor of Palestinian human & political rights)

    In America, there are truly great political satirists, but at present I can not name one off-hand. I have respect for old time political satire, for example, Mad Magazine. There are truly excellent American political cartoonists, but at present, only Ted Rall's work comes to mind.

    It's pretty cheap of me to claim even a < Tom Joad-stake in today's world of top notch dissident political satire. What's probably worse is to make a "show" out of a satiric-snippet I had written and was posted by the good grace of "The Uncommon Thought Journal" editor.

    Oh well, Mr. War for Blair Mountain, the US Zionists have declared all out war upon (world) population AWARENESS and below is my Gulliver-tithe to upend the upside down truth as I see it.

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php
  130. @Diversity Heretic
    But what compromising information does the Deep State have on each and every congressman and Senator who would lead or participate in these invetigations? What dothey have on any special prosecutor appointed, and his or her staff? The normal processes of government may be totally ineffective when confronted by the enormous surveillance capacity of the modern state.

    Maybe it is time to offer blanket immunity to members of congress for past criminality if they get on the right side of this. Hey I’m grabbing at straws here.

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  131. “The Haskell version of Swift… curried Swift.”

    Very cool “screen” moniker!

    Just be careful you do not get the Swift Boat treatment that POTUS candidate John(athan Unswift) Kerry got back in 2004?

    You might recall how Sean Hannity joined the Swift Boat assault on Mr. Wind Surf? Refer to clip below?

    https://thinkprogress.org/fox-news-continues-swift-boat-attacks-on-john-kerry-c6ad27851468#.qeurrd6ml

    Lastly, W.F.B.M., no doubt that you recall who owned Fox News at the time?

    Wish you a good Lillipudian day!

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  132. What we have today is a continuation of what has always been, the criminality of the lawmaker’s in league with the chosen royalty of the world all of them under one authority, a king, if you will, i.e., the eldest son of the Rothschild Family. Nothing magical or other worldly about it, nothing evil or good, nothing reptilian. Just the same ol, same ol, greedy little men in the roles of leadership doing everything for themselves and nothing for the rest of us. Well, they do shorten our lives, steal our productivity and educate our children to fit their needs and not the needs of the children. They do pit us against each other, make us fight and kill each other, they do laugh at us with a great big belly laugh, we must be really funny too them. So, what is the solution? The solution is, and we would be amazed how well and how quickly it works. The solution is Lock’em Up. The problem is: how can we do this since they hold the keys to the jails and the paychecks of the police and judges. Figure that one out and you will be instantly a g-o-d. Today, and there s no denying this, the men who commit murder are the angels of god, the men who forgive murder are -the gods. You see, it was this that made that. When the first man committed murder and got away with it, then he was the most feared man of all. When the first man found reason and sense so the murderer could get away with his murdering of another, then that man was god. Then they held the power of life and death over everyone else. So it goes, even until this day. Murder, is not forgivable. Murder is not forgivable because when you take from a person their life you have denied them everything they have or could have had, there is no turning back from it, no going back, it is the end of everything the victim was or could have been. No human ever born has such a right as to kill another person criminally and not be killed themselves, it is absurd. Any person finding a reason for murder is a murderer themselves, at least in their heart if not in deed. When we forgive murder, when our children watch us forgive murder, then everyone’s brain goes out to lunch and never returns. This is where we are today. We know who they were who murdered JFK, we know who they were who were behind WTC 9/11 and as long as these men are allowed to be free among us then we can never be free. Our cry should be Never forget, never Forgive, Murder. Lock’em up.

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  133. Thank you Annamaria, couldn’t agree more about other people’s money and limbs, and about the arrogance. Thanks for the link.

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  134. From Ramin Mazaheri with a bitter smile: http://thesaker.is/theres-a-deep-state-in-america/
    “… the Times [NYT] goes on to say that now this dangerous Trump wants to appoint someone to review our intelligence agencies. Astounding, the gall of this man! I really think he’s psychologically insane…. What else do you call our top elected official trying to find out what work is being illegally done in secret with taxpayer money? I am certain this is something Putin would do with his KGB. And that’s why Russia is not free – because the KGB cannot operate freely to undermine Putin’s attempts at diplomacy! Don’t tell me I’m wrong, comrade!”

    The New York Times is owned by The New York Times Company. Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., the Publisher and the Chairman of the Board. The NYT executive team of presstitutes: http://www.nytco.com/executives/

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  135. I posted this to one of Sailer’s threads, but it seems more appropriate here:

    What Would Trump’s Plan to Fire Federal Workers Mean for Intelligence Employees?

    Civil service laws were written to prevent freewheeling firing sprees and to protect federal employees’ rights, though many complain it prevents speedy removal of ineffective workers, creating the “forever” government bureaucrat. However, large segments of the intelligence community, including DIA, CIA, NSA, and most of the FBI are not entitled to these same protections, and some attorneys who represent those employees are particularly concerned.

    “[Intelligence community] employees have little protection,” wrote Mark Zaid, an attorney who often represents members of the national security and intelligence spheres, in a tweet.

    [...]

    Congress crafted the laws — including the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, and other federal regulations — so that the intelligence chiefs could have flexibility in firing, to protect national security interests and maintain flexibility. Kel McClanahan, a national security attorney, says the intelligence community made a big push to Congress to retain their power to fire people by using the “national security” card.

    The agencies’ message to lawmakers was, “Oh my god, national security, we wouldn’t want to jeopardize national security. … You couldn’t possibly understand the nuances of something vital like national security,” McClanahan said during a phone interview. “They got themselves exempted … because they could.”

    While those exemptions might help national security officers move quickly — to replace a poorly performing employee — it gives the top spies broad powers to fire at will, and personnel have few rights to challenge it. That system, which allows intelligence community employees to be terminated quickly and without challenge, has been in place “for many years,” Zaid wrote. “The question is whether it will be utilized” even more under the new administration.

    I was very relieved to read that. My hope is that Trump will clean house. Cashier Hussein’s hires en masse, along with anyone else who seems remotely squishy. Prior to that, he should seek out patriotic informants within the agencies, who can finger the unpatriotic. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has something like that already under way (if so, it could be contributing to all the leaks).

    Also of interest:

    Senior Trump appointee fired after critical comments

    and,

    Polygraph panic: CIA director fretted his vote for communist

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  136. Karl, if I had to guess, the military makes it a point of pride to make sure that nobody cracks their (earnest) encryption, if they can help it. Not even friendlies. But that’s just a guess. In any event, we don’t mind you ogling up the racial hierarchy.

    PS – my instinct tells me John Songbird McCain is on the last lap of his Tokyo Rose tour of duty.

    From your lips, to God’s ears. If you’re as fond of McCain as I am, you’ll love this:

    How Many Chances Do You Get to Be an American Hero?

    Up is down, black is white, treachery is patriotism, venality is courage, etc. I especially enjoyed how Sherman presented the completely bogus and discredited Wood Dossier as genuine, with zero evidence. But the meat of the story is how McCain’s conniving and treachery are both patriotic, and a source of joy and admiration on the left; no contradiction there.

    lavender Lindsey Graham

    I call him Lyndsie Gayham, but Lavender Lindsey’s pretty good, too. I’m 99% sure he was the inspiration for the warmongering closeted homo character (who, ironically, was married, unlike Lyndsie) on the Netflix show, Alpha House (yet another vehicle for that mulatto Clark Johnson as some kind of American statesman).

    Question to CBS and NBC: Why not get any other two Senators, besides these two tired hacks, to talk about the Trump administration?

    Obviously a rhetorical question; Gayham and McInsane are RINOs, cucks whose job is to pretend to be Conservatives, while serving the neocon/left agenda.

    The Mossad knew Bill Clinton’s great fatal flaw was his being an unsatiated skin hound. Enter (Jewish) Monica Lewinsky, age 23, as a very affectionate White House intern. Suddenly, Monica shared the story about her giving a B.J. to the president resulted in leaving a cum stain on her dress.

    Enter Linda Tripp who I have heard enjoyed close relationships with Zionists. Trying to be a “good friend,” Linda immediately advised Monica to not take her stained dress to a dry cleaner.
    Soon the stained dress provided evidence that enabled Benjamin Netanyahu to take Bill Clinton for a thorough “monkey wash and donkey rinse.”

    This, and the many trips “our” pols take to Israel is the first thing I thought of, when McStain blabbered about Russian “honeypots.” Good luck getting the patriotic Noahide Zionist McAmnesty to admit it, though.

    And that’s why Russia is not free – because the KGB cannot operate freely to undermine Putin’s attempts at diplomacy! Don’t tell me I’m wrong, comrade!”

    That is literally McCain’s position:

    How Many Chances Do You Get to Be an American Hero?

    McCain acknowledged that leaks have the potential to do damage to national security. But he made a surprisingly impassioned case for them in an era when truth is hard to come by. “In democracies, information should be provided to the American people,” McCain said. “How else are the American people going to be informed?”

    McCain: Russian cyberintrusions an ‘act of war’

    Sen. John McCain said Friday that Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential election amounted to an “act of war.”

    [...]

    “When you attack a country, it’s an act of war,” McCain said of the recent hackings on Ukrainian TV, according to a transcript compiled by Reuters. “And so we have to make sure that there is a price to pay so that we can perhaps persuade Russians to stop this kind of attacks on our very fundamentals of democracy.”

    [...]

    McCain and other top Hill leaders have vowed to press legislation next year on sanctions in addition to the those announced by President Barack Obama this week.

    It’s who-whom, all the way down.

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  137. “In democracies, information should be provided to the American people,” McCain said. “How else are the American people going to be informed?”

    I’m struck by McCain’s tacit admission that it sure as Hell won’t be Big Media doing the informing.

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  138. @War for Blair Mountain
    And given my luv for the Haskell programming language...I am very seriously thinking of posting exclusively in terms of set builder notation....curried lists...monads...and monoids for greater syntactical and conceptual clarity-and verbal abuse....don't tempt me!!!

    The Haskell version of Swift....curried Swift!!!

    “An given my luv for the Haskell programming language…”

    That’s fantastic, “War for Blair Mountain.” As a 1950′s kid, I had love for Eddie Haskell’s language, popularized TV’s “Leave it to Beaver.”

    At any rate, upon return from a rather long walk, encompassing my Taylor PA apartment to the hills of S. Scranton, I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130. You have “The Right” to silence and perhaps I am too arrogant to realize such.

    At any rate, while walking, I began to consider Jonathan Swift’s tremendous classic satire. Travels.” Step by step, nearby St. Mary’s Greek Catholic Cemetery, it dawned on me how current American public literature education-curriculum has youth weaned on “Harry Potter”
    liver’s Travels.” Shall I request a round of applause for the triumphant Frankfurt School?

    Recall how Jonathan Swift’s skilled satire pissed off the early 18th century ruling “Whigs”? Today, I note how Britain’s Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks wants to have Stephen Stephen
    Hawkings criminalized for his refusal to profess “luv” for Israel. Ugh.

    (F.Y.I., recently, Stephen Hawkings met with Pope Francis who is on record of being in favor of Palestinian human & political rights)

    In America, there are truly great political satirists, but at present I can not name one off-hand. I have respect for old time political satire, for example, Mad Magazine. There are truly excellent American political cartoonists, but at present, only Ted Rall’s work comes to mind.

    It’s pretty cheap of me to claim even a < Tom Joad-stake in today's world of top notch dissident political satire. What's probably worse is to make a "show" out of a satiric-snippet I had written and was posted by the good grace of "The Uncommon Thought Journal" editor.

    Oh well, Mr. War for Blair Mountain, the US Zionists have declared all out war upon (world) population AWARENESS and below is my Gulliver-tithe to upend the upside down truth as I see it.

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

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    I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130.
     
    Hey, Chuck. I'm glad you called me out as it prompted me to open the link you provided in your previous post to the book review of Gideon's Spies, the secret history of the Mossad.

    I have always been keen to learn what intrigues the spy agency has been up to as this previous comment indicates:

    Speaking of “Still a whodunit and nobody cares anymore,” whatever happened to the investigation into the Anthrax attacks?

    The letters containing anthrax that were sent to Senators Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, (both had been attempting to slow the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act), read:

    09-11-01
    YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
    WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
    YOU DIE NOW.
    ARE YOU AFRAID?
    DEATH TO AMERICA.
    DEATH TO ISRAEL.
    ALLAH IS GREAT.

    It’d be fascinating to get a glimpse of the Mossad’s “to do” list!
     
    Heaven knows what misdeeds they're scheming up... even as we speak.
    , @War for Blair Mountain
    You aren't to far from Cabela's. I enjoy going to Cabela's on Saturday mornings watching Native Born White America waiting on line to arm themselves...The big plexiglass acquariam has the largest species Amazonian pirahnna swimming among the fat catfish.
    , @Anonymous
    Chuck....


    Your posting on "Uncommon Thought" is not only uncommon but very thoughtfully creative. This piece is just what the Unz Review needs more of . Satire that not only mocks the key members of the criminal Zionists around the world but scartiscally attacks them in a way that informs everyone, in a funny way, of their
    recent nafarious activities. You have an uncanny nack in making a serious subject
    ENTERTAINING.

    Thanks

    Keith
  139. If anyone believes a new york billionair isn’t crooked and hasn’t sworn a secret oath of loyalty to the (jews/masons/some fraternal order), then they are either:

    1. jewish
    2. freemason/mormon/scientology or member of some other appendant jewish controlled org or fraternity that if you follow the money is jew owned.
    3. lucky enough to be well to do and not being opressed and can afford to enjoy life
    4. just ignorant/stupid and has never been a member of a Society/Order. and has not learned the truth yet.
    5. knows the truth but is in denial or afraid because their life has been threatened, no one will hire them anymore, vandalized, robbed, harassed , a “blackballed/supressed targetd individual” who was once a member of some group that made them take an oath, is no longer a member, and the secretary of whichever group they swore their oath with contacted the “elites” and told every group to shut this person out.

    So many people live in fear of the jewish kabal in first world countries. Mostly, the middle class whites who are slowly being wiped out. The middle class get the “better than min wage jobs” in return for their oath of loyalty. God bless. Jesus saves.

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    Amen, achick!

    I want to show you a quote from Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's book, "The Divine Milieu," below:

    "Across the immensity of time and the disconcerting multiplicity of individuals, one single operation is taking place: the annexation to Christ of his chosen; one single thing is being made; the mystical body of Christ, starting from all the sketchy spiritual powers scattered throughout the world. Hoc est Corpus meum."

    (Note: The "operation" the-late Teilhard de Chardin spoke about is definitely not "Operation Iranian Freedom.")

    P.S.: Achick -- Author of this article, Pat Buchanan, where we now assemble is a Roman Catholic and he probably knows what the Latin words (above) mean.

    Thank you for making such an aware and charitable comment! intelliogent comment
  140. @achick
    If anyone believes a new york billionair isn't crooked and hasn't sworn a secret oath of loyalty to the (jews/masons/some fraternal order), then they are either:

    1. jewish
    2. freemason/mormon/scientology or member of some other appendant jewish controlled org or fraternity that if you follow the money is jew owned.
    3. lucky enough to be well to do and not being opressed and can afford to enjoy life
    4. just ignorant/stupid and has never been a member of a Society/Order. and has not learned the truth yet.
    5. knows the truth but is in denial or afraid because their life has been threatened, no one will hire them anymore, vandalized, robbed, harassed , a "blackballed/supressed targetd individual" who was once a member of some group that made them take an oath, is no longer a member, and the secretary of whichever group they swore their oath with contacted the "elites" and told every group to shut this person out.

    So many people live in fear of the jewish kabal in first world countries. Mostly, the middle class whites who are slowly being wiped out. The middle class get the "better than min wage jobs" in return for their oath of loyalty. God bless. Jesus saves.

    Amen, achick!

    I want to show you a quote from Pierre Teilhard de Chardin’s book, “The Divine Milieu,” below:

    “Across the immensity of time and the disconcerting multiplicity of individuals, one single operation is taking place: the annexation to Christ of his chosen; one single thing is being made; the mystical body of Christ, starting from all the sketchy spiritual powers scattered throughout the world. Hoc est Corpus meum.”

    (Note: The “operation” the-late Teilhard de Chardin spoke about is definitely not “Operation Iranian Freedom.”)

    P.S.: Achick — Author of this article, Pat Buchanan, where we now assemble is a Roman Catholic and he probably knows what the Latin words (above) mean.

    Thank you for making such an aware and charitable comment! intelliogent comment

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  141. @Chuck Orloski
    "An given my luv for the Haskell programming language..."

    That's fantastic, "War for Blair Mountain." As a 1950's kid, I had love for Eddie Haskell's language, popularized TV's "Leave it to Beaver."

    At any rate, upon return from a rather long walk, encompassing my Taylor PA apartment to the hills of S. Scranton, I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130. You have "The Right" to silence and perhaps I am too arrogant to realize such.

    At any rate, while walking, I began to consider Jonathan Swift's tremendous classic satire. Travels." Step by step, nearby St. Mary's Greek Catholic Cemetery, it dawned on me how current American public literature education-curriculum has youth weaned on "Harry Potter"
    liver's Travels." Shall I request a round of applause for the triumphant Frankfurt School?

    Recall how Jonathan Swift's skilled satire pissed off the early 18th century ruling "Whigs"? Today, I note how Britain's Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks wants to have Stephen Stephen
    Hawkings criminalized for his refusal to profess "luv" for Israel. Ugh.

    (F.Y.I., recently, Stephen Hawkings met with Pope Francis who is on record of being in favor of Palestinian human & political rights)

    In America, there are truly great political satirists, but at present I can not name one off-hand. I have respect for old time political satire, for example, Mad Magazine. There are truly excellent American political cartoonists, but at present, only Ted Rall's work comes to mind.

    It's pretty cheap of me to claim even a < Tom Joad-stake in today's world of top notch dissident political satire. What's probably worse is to make a "show" out of a satiric-snippet I had written and was posted by the good grace of "The Uncommon Thought Journal" editor.

    Oh well, Mr. War for Blair Mountain, the US Zionists have declared all out war upon (world) population AWARENESS and below is my Gulliver-tithe to upend the upside down truth as I see it.

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

    I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130.

    Hey, Chuck. I’m glad you called me out as it prompted me to open the link you provided in your previous post to the book review of Gideon’s Spies, the secret history of the Mossad.

    I have always been keen to learn what intrigues the spy agency has been up to as this previous comment indicates:

    Speaking of “Still a whodunit and nobody cares anymore,” whatever happened to the investigation into the Anthrax attacks?

    The letters containing anthrax that were sent to Senators Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, (both had been attempting to slow the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act), read:

    09-11-01
    YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
    WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
    YOU DIE NOW.
    ARE YOU AFRAID?
    DEATH TO AMERICA.
    DEATH TO ISRAEL.
    ALLAH IS GREAT.

    It’d be fascinating to get a glimpse of the Mossad’s “to do” list!

    Heaven knows what misdeeds they’re scheming up… even as we speak.

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    geokat62,

    The only defense against Mossad's (perpetual) scheming "misdeeds" is our powers of logic and a will to do good deeds for self & ideally, "neighbors." (However, I'd be insincere to even myself were I to suggest that it's easy to do good for hostile neighbors)

    Thanks for posting the message that accompanied weaponized anthrax letters used to frighten the two U.S. Senators.

    F.Y.I., in my line as an emergency response haz-mat supervisor, I responded to at minimum fifty (50) post-9/11 "white powder" threats. In fact, one evening, I delivered post-emergency response samples of "white powder" which were collected under Chain-of-Custody protocol, and I was directed to deliver appx. ten (10) such samples to an F.B.I. temporary laboratory for analysis. The lab was located within a Philadelphia Sheriff Dept. yard. These were the weirdest of times, geokat62!

    Thanks for responding, geokat62. Hopefully our voices intersect once again during Philip Giraldi's next logical and good article. And beware the current Zio-tsunami wave of "cognitive dissonance" and keep the faith!
  142. @Chuck Orloski
    "An given my luv for the Haskell programming language..."

    That's fantastic, "War for Blair Mountain." As a 1950's kid, I had love for Eddie Haskell's language, popularized TV's "Leave it to Beaver."

    At any rate, upon return from a rather long walk, encompassing my Taylor PA apartment to the hills of S. Scranton, I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130. You have "The Right" to silence and perhaps I am too arrogant to realize such.

    At any rate, while walking, I began to consider Jonathan Swift's tremendous classic satire. Travels." Step by step, nearby St. Mary's Greek Catholic Cemetery, it dawned on me how current American public literature education-curriculum has youth weaned on "Harry Potter"
    liver's Travels." Shall I request a round of applause for the triumphant Frankfurt School?

    Recall how Jonathan Swift's skilled satire pissed off the early 18th century ruling "Whigs"? Today, I note how Britain's Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks wants to have Stephen Stephen
    Hawkings criminalized for his refusal to profess "luv" for Israel. Ugh.

    (F.Y.I., recently, Stephen Hawkings met with Pope Francis who is on record of being in favor of Palestinian human & political rights)

    In America, there are truly great political satirists, but at present I can not name one off-hand. I have respect for old time political satire, for example, Mad Magazine. There are truly excellent American political cartoonists, but at present, only Ted Rall's work comes to mind.

    It's pretty cheap of me to claim even a < Tom Joad-stake in today's world of top notch dissident political satire. What's probably worse is to make a "show" out of a satiric-snippet I had written and was posted by the good grace of "The Uncommon Thought Journal" editor.

    Oh well, Mr. War for Blair Mountain, the US Zionists have declared all out war upon (world) population AWARENESS and below is my Gulliver-tithe to upend the upside down truth as I see it.

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

    You aren’t to far from Cabela’s. I enjoy going to Cabela’s on Saturday mornings watching Native Born White America waiting on line to arm themselves…The big plexiglass acquariam has the largest species Amazonian pirahnna swimming among the fat catfish.

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    I am sorry the real "Native born" Americans did not keep out your racist ancestors from coming to their country, so today we wouldn't have to read your racist and stupid comments. I know the first amendment allows even a donkey to bray whenever he wants to.
  143. @artichoke
    Evidently you missed David Friedman's realtalk about the difference between left and right Jews. If you missed it, a convenient summary is in Friedman's recent confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, because he walks back, recants and basically apologizes for every one of those comments he ever made, so you'll hear them.

    Corker's comments at the end about what a 2 state solution really means are good too. People are starting to talk in more understandable terms about these issues, and that's a symptom of Trump. It never happened before, ever, on these issues.

    Nevertheless, Trump will get Friedman as the US ambassador to Israel, and he's a hard right kind of guy for real. By the way did you notice all the Jews (all Orthodox) in Trump's very own family, as well as Jared Kushner? Not a single Reform Jew/Unitarian in the bunch. He's for real.

    Evidently you missed David Friedman’s realtalk about the difference between left and right Jews. If you missed it, a convenient summary is in Friedman’s recent confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, because he walks back, recants and basically apologizes for every one of those comments he ever made, so you’ll hear them.

    Do not believe Friedman’s senate words – he is a Jew – he will lie at the drop of a hat. A man with his hate, does not change is stripes.

    He represents Jews and Israel – not America or Trump.

    Peace — Art

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  144. @geokat62

    I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130.
     
    Hey, Chuck. I'm glad you called me out as it prompted me to open the link you provided in your previous post to the book review of Gideon's Spies, the secret history of the Mossad.

    I have always been keen to learn what intrigues the spy agency has been up to as this previous comment indicates:

    Speaking of “Still a whodunit and nobody cares anymore,” whatever happened to the investigation into the Anthrax attacks?

    The letters containing anthrax that were sent to Senators Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle, (both had been attempting to slow the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act), read:

    09-11-01
    YOU CAN NOT STOP US.
    WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX.
    YOU DIE NOW.
    ARE YOU AFRAID?
    DEATH TO AMERICA.
    DEATH TO ISRAEL.
    ALLAH IS GREAT.

    It’d be fascinating to get a glimpse of the Mossad’s “to do” list!
     
    Heaven knows what misdeeds they're scheming up... even as we speak.

    geokat62,

    The only defense against Mossad’s (perpetual) scheming “misdeeds” is our powers of logic and a will to do good deeds for self & ideally, “neighbors.” (However, I’d be insincere to even myself were I to suggest that it’s easy to do good for hostile neighbors)

    Thanks for posting the message that accompanied weaponized anthrax letters used to frighten the two U.S. Senators.

    F.Y.I., in my line as an emergency response haz-mat supervisor, I responded to at minimum fifty (50) post-9/11 “white powder” threats. In fact, one evening, I delivered post-emergency response samples of “white powder” which were collected under Chain-of-Custody protocol, and I was directed to deliver appx. ten (10) such samples to an F.B.I. temporary laboratory for analysis. The lab was located within a Philadelphia Sheriff Dept. yard. These were the weirdest of times, geokat62!

    Thanks for responding, geokat62. Hopefully our voices intersect once again during Philip Giraldi’s next logical and good article. And beware the current Zio-tsunami wave of “cognitive dissonance” and keep the faith!

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  145. @Chuck Orloski
    U.S. intelligence informed the Kingdom of Saddam Hussein's march toward Saudi Arabia... "The King panicked and asked the U.S for help and thus President H.W. Bush got the base he was looking for."

    MEexpert,

    I appreciate your having made learned response to my comment.

    However, during the years, 2012-March 2014, I worked with a fellow rather young manager, Robert M., who served in the U.S. Air Force base in Riyadh. (Bob told me that the U.S. Riyadh Air base air base had advanced camera technology that could view human activity within fortified base-buildings!) Moments ago, I Google-searched to determine precisely when the Riyadh U.S. air base opened for business. Best date available (for me) is that it began in 1983!

    Therefore, and without an intent to contradict your knowledge, it seems G.H.W. Bush at best got the opportunity to expand the American Air force base at Riyadh.

    (Note: Ancient history indicates Riyadh was a walled city which helped separate Mecca from the Iranians)

    At any rate, G.W.H. Bush's long career, including being CIA Director, suggests a willingness to stab anyone in-the-back to serve the oily Royal Saud family, and it certainly should have came as no surprise to CIA-Man, Saddam Hussein, that Papa Bush would stab him in the back.

    As I gave consideration to your very thoughtful review of "Desert Storm," I ask you to consider the documented historical Bromance that Donald Rumsfeld fostered with Saddam Hussein. Please take a gander at the brief You Tube video, below?

    (While watching, please be aware that young Congressman Donald Rumsfeld (Illinois) wrote a American Zionist Council-inspired letter to A.G. Robert F. Kennedy on the hot topic of the administration's effort to make the A.Z.C. register as a foreign agent)

    Sincere thanks again, MEexpert, and below is the video featuring arch-Zionist Donald Rumsfeld chumming it up with who I believe was a crypto-Zionist, Saddam Hussein.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WofUf8m_k

    Post scriptum: New Bunker Hill calling S2C, geokat62, annamaria, NoseyTheDuke, and the good "Anon," Keith!

    I agree with most of your comments. I travelled off and on to Saudi Arabia during the 80s while working for an aerospace company. I also lived there in the late 70s. There was American and British military presence there but the US did not have a formal base at the time. They had couple of AVACS stationed to monitor the Iraq-Iran war. One of the AVACS used to be in the air all the time. I have not forgotten the Zionist involvement in all US actions in the middle east.

    After the Desert Storm, when the hostilities calmed down, the Saudis demanded that US end the military presence in the Kingdom. If you had followed the events in those days, which by the way I was doing at the time, you would have noticed that Saddam was told to move again towards Saudi Arabia. Again Saudis panicked and the US stayed.

    It was Papa Bush who gave signals to the Kurds and Shiite to rise up against Saddam but did not give them any material support. Saddam took deadly revenge on both Shiites and Kurds by gassing them. There was no safe zone as demanded these days in Syria. Gen. Schwarzkoph wrote about his frustration to see Saddam’s helicopters bombing the helpless Shiite villages in the South but he was under orders not to intervene.

    When it comes to middle east the Zio-neocon angle can never be discounted. Every US president is subservient to the Israeli commands.

    Thank you for your comments.

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    "Every US president is subservient to Israeli commands."

    Yes -- and the Corporate Media provokes the mass of American "Sheeple" to actually believe President Obama defied B. Netanuahu's requirements just because, for one example, he did not bomb President Assad out of Damascus.

    Was it December 2016 when President Barack Hussein Obama forked over $38 billion (over the span of 10-years) to Israel for its defense?

    Oh man, War for Blair Mountain, I sincerely wish that all the "pests" I must associate with were so generous as to donate lots of money, in order to support my NOT HAVING to dip into honestly earned money to defend my family's existence.

    The "Zio-neocons" have Americans so fucked up that they avoid contemplating what $1-trillion is. The debt keeps rising by the seconds and what is it now? $20-trillion?
    No problem though, President Donald Trump will make up for Obama's being so cheap with poor Israel!

    One trillion, one trillion, one trillion. A recommended experiment for the staff of new Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin : Starting at US/Canadian border, near Watertown, NY, lay five (5) trillion slices of "Hansel & Gretel" bread (face down) upon Interstate 81 South and see how far it goes.

    Thanks again, War for Blair Mountain, for jaw-boning with me!
  146. @mcohen
    Flynn had the right idea but I am hoping that Kelly Ayotte is brought into the cabinet.she is the missing piece of the puzzle.she will help trump beat the jinx that is plaguing his strategy.

    Kelly Ayotte was one of the “Three Amigos” replacing Joe Lieberman. She is not to be trusted just as her pals McCain and Graham are not to be trusted.

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    • Replies: @Art
    Because he trashed our president on foreign soil and because he has had a hand in our military's degradation - McCain should lose his chairmanship of the senate defense committee.

    Enough of that warmongering bastard. He is unworthy of that position. Under his committee leadership our military is hurting, both personal wise and equipment wise.

    In our system of government, presidents make foreign policy – not senators.

    McCain is an incompetent and a traitor to our constitutional system.

    Peace --- Art
  147. @Bobzilla

    For when Vice President Pence told a TV show that Flynn told him that sanctions did not come up in conversation with the Russian ambassador, a transcript of Flynn’s call was produced from recordings by intelligence agencies, and its contents leaked to The Washington Post.
     
    Is it just me or does anyone else see Pence as a 5th column traitor in this? Pence could have told the interviewer that he (Pence), and Flynn did have a discussion, the details of which are private, and that Pence determined that Flynn had done nothing wrong. It could of been left at that; no foul, no harm. But instead Pence appears to have eagerly spilled that beans and put Trump into a no win situation / choice. Should I put Pence on my permanent sh*t list. Am I wrong?

    You nailed it! Cui bono?

    Answer: Pence

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  148. Hopefully our voices intersect once again during Philip Giraldi’s next logical and good article.

    Speaking of Phil Giraldi, I just finished viewing a very lengthy documentary, A Very Heavy Agenda, in which Phil makes a cameo appearance near the very end.

    Here is a description of the theme:

    Post-9/11, the War on Terror had outlived its usefulness. The minds behind the think tanks that drive America’s interventionist foreign policy decided that the U.S. needed a new enemy, so they chose an old one — Russia.

    As expected, the people that featured prominently in the film were William Kristol and Robert Kagen (co-founders of PNAC 1.0), which they strategically rebranded as FPI along with co-founders Eric Adelman and Dan Senor (better known as PNAC 2.0) as soon as it became clear the Iraq War was an unmitigated disaster, and Kimberly Kagen (founder of ISW).

    These two political insiders give us a glimpse on the degree to which they rely on the work of think tanks:

    In the Reagan years as National Security Advisor… I could see, once the Cold War was behind us that the enduring threat was Radical Islam. And I began to look around for Think Tanks… and before long it was evident that ISW [The Institute For The Study of War], and specifically Dr. Kim Kagan, really understood this, as a scholar but also as a hands on battlefield analyst. – Robert “Bud” McFarlane

    I think that the ISW’s role most importantly for me is just providing the information and the objective tools that I need as a member of congress to be able to not only explain to my constituency in a coherent way but also formulate the opinions that I had when I make those decisive votes on the House floor for how we’re going to move forward.
    With ISW I really feel like I’m being presented with the facts and the evidence and I can make my own conclusion from there. – unidentified congressman

    A highlight was the exchange between James Kirchick and Joe Klein. Rather than transcribing it, the article below does justice to the debate:

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    Joe Klein on Neoconservatives and Iran

    My friend and former colleague Joe Klein has made himself quite the figure of controversy over the past few weeks. First, he suggested that Jewish neoconservatives have “divided loyalties;” then he called John McCain desperate for arguing that Barack Obama is willing to lose the Iraq war in order to win the election. Then, a few days ago, he argued that McCain has surrounded himself with “Jewish neoconservatives” who want war with Iran. He’s gotten a lot of pushback, including criticism from Abraham Foxman, the head of the Anti-Defamation League.

    I called Joe with a bunch of questions. He stands by his criticism of Jewish neoconservatives, and explains Iran’s nuclear ambitions this way: “Given the level of threats that they’ve been getting from the United States, and from Israel, it’s a logical thing for Iran to want nuclear weapons as a deterrent.” No one can say that Joe is afraid of the arena. Here are excerpts from our conversation:

    Jeffrey Goldberg: What did you mean when you used the term “divided loyalty” to describe neoconservatives?

    Joe Klein: I did not mean to imply that they were disloyal to the United States, but I think that, in some occasions and in some instances, especially this incredible push for war with Iran, they aren’t thinking about the consequences.

    JG: Do you think this push is coming out of the American Jewish community, or from Israeli leaders at this point?

    JK: I think it’s coming out of both. But I think that if you look at, for example, the Commentary blog, if you look at Joe Lieberman – and McCain is reflecting this quite a bit in what he said, and I think until he was called out on Afghanistan a few weeks ago, he was talking about Iran almost exclusively and he was doing it in the most flagrant way. My big problems with McCain began with a simple question that I asked him at a press conference: “Why do always talk about Ahmadinejad as if he is the leader of Iran when he isn’t?” And he said, “I beg to differ with you, he is.” I said, “But you know, the Supreme Leader controls the nuclear policy and the foreign policy,” and McCain said, “But Ahmadinejad is the guy who shows up at the United Nations and the average American thinks he’s the leader.”

    JG: Go back to this divided loyalty issue.

    JK: Listen, people can vote whichever way they want, for whatever reason they want. I just don’t want to see policy makers who make decisions on the basis of whether American policy will benefit Israel or not. In some cases, you want to provide protection for Israel certainly, but you don’t want to go to war with Iran. When Jennifer Rubin or Abe Foxman calls me antisemitic, they’re wrong. I am anti-neoconservative. I think these people are following very perversely extremist policies and I really did believe that it was time for mainstream Jews to stand up and say, “They don’t represent us, they don’t represent Israel.”

    JG: You wrote something that suggested you were skeptical about whether Iran actually wants to destroy Israel. You don’t think Iran poses a mortal threat to Israel?

    JK: They pick Ahmadinejad specifically because he’s the guy making the wildest antisemitic statements. I think that’s being done for political purposes, to scare the shit out of my parents. It’s a Broward County strategy, it’s a Florida strategy. On Iran, I think that it’s a love/hate relationship, since Iran and Israel are natural allies. You know, when I was in Iran, I’d talk to people. I was talking to one right-winger, and I said, “You know who your natural ally is?” and I was thinking the United States and he said, “Oh, yeah, Israel.” I think that my reading on the nuclear issue is, given the level of threats that they’ve been getting from the United States, and from Israel, it’s a logical thing for Iran to want nuclear weapons as a deterrent. I don’t think they’d ever actually use it. First of all, they don’t actually have it, but if they did have it, they’d contaminate at the very least the third most holy site in Islam, and they’d kill a hell of a lot of Muslims. So I think that they want it as a matter of deterrence and a matter of prestige. When you look at Iran’s behavior, it has not been irrational.

    JG: Go back to the issue of the Jewish blogosphere, the Jewish conservative blogosphere.

    JK: I just get very, very angry at them.

    JG: You seem very angry at people who you specifically identify as Jewish neocons. And you’re using the word “Jewish” in ways that we haven’t seen Jewish reporters and Jewish columnists use.

    JK: It’s about time. I think everyone else is too afraid to do it. Let me just make something very clear that you already know about me. I am a strong supporter of Israel. I think Israel had a perfect right in 2002 to go into the West Bank and kick the shit out of those people who were making suicide bombs. I think if they wanted to now go into Gaza and take out the people who were hitting Sderot, they would have a perfect right to do that. I am not a Walt-Mearsheimer guy. I think Jews have a perfect right to have a lobby. I do believe that there is a group of people who got involved and had a disproportionate influence on U.S. foreign policy. There were people out there in the Jewish community who saw this as a way to create a benign domino theory and eliminate all of Israel’s enemies.

    JG: Is that such a bad idea if it would work?

    JK: But I think it is a bad idea and I think it wouldn’t work. I think it represents a really dangerous anachronistic neocolonial sensibility. And I think it is a very, very dangerous form of extremism. I think it’s bad for Israel and it’s bad for America. And these guys have been getting a free ride. And now these people are backing the notion of a war with Iran and not all of them, but some of them, are doing it because they believe that Iran is an existential threat to Israel.

    JG: And it’s not?

    JK: It certainly isn’t an existential threat to us and the consequences of a war with Iran would be terrible. These were the people who were pushing for a war with Iraq and that was terrible. In a lot of cases, I remember back in the day, back at that time, there were a lot of Jews who thought that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that were pointed at Israel.

    JG: Do you believe that neoconservatives generally act in Israel’s best interest, rather than America’s?

    JK: I’m not saying that they don’t think it’s also in America’s best interest. But Israel’s best interests are in their mind and they’re doing things, they’re encouraging policies that are violent and potentially disastrous for the American people. There’s this great book coming out called “In a Time of War,” about the West Point class of 2002, and you know, you read something like this and you want throttle Doug Feith, you just want to whoop him upside the head.

    JK: Wasn’t there a period when you were for the war?

    JG: No, I was very skeptical about the war. You can look at the columns I wrote. But at one point – and this ironic because both the left-wing bloggers that hate me and the right-wing bloggers that hate me always cite this – on one appearance on Tim Russert’s cable show, which happened within a month before the war started, the troops were all in place, I did a really stupid thing, I started thinking aloud, “Well you know, it’s going to happen, maybe we should do it,” that sort of thing. And it’s the only time I ever said or wrote anything in favor of it. My evolution on it was that very quickly I realized it was a complete disaster and for about three years there, McCain and I were on the exact same page.

    JG: He was screaming against Rumsfeld.

    JK: And I was carrying water for the uniformed military against Rumsfeld. And that’s when I really got close to Petraeus and the counterinsurgency folks. I thought McCain was doing the Lord’s work. I still do. Where we parted company was in the middle of 2006, when I began to believe, as you know, that we were in the middle of a civil war and that counterinsurgency wasn’t appropriate. There were a lot of other counterinsurgency experts who agreed with me, including people who were on Petraeus’ staff. And that’s when I said, “We gotta get out of this thing.”

    JG: How do you feel about it now?

    JK: You know, when I wrote that, I said, “I really hope this thing succeeds but I don’t think it’s gonna.” I mean, my feelings have been unmixed about the work of the American troops throughout. And I think that Petraeus had a brilliant battle plan, a good part of it was the counterinsurgency tactics, and he also had several really huge bits of luck. One was the Anbar Awakening, and he was smart enough to take advantage of it. I remember when I was in Iraq with him, he was shocked by it, shocked by how quickly it was moving. You know, another thing was the fact that restoring peace to Baghdad was easier because of the ethnic cleansing in a lot of the neighborhoods, and the third thing is that the Iraqis just really got sick of violence. They just got really sick of war.

    JG: If you believed that Iran posed an existential threat to Israel, would you consider that an American national security problem?

    JK: Yes.

    JG: Because of the lessons of the Holocaust, as McCain says?

    JK: Not just because of the Holocaust, but because of the possibility that you’re going to have a Holocaust. I mean, I don’t want to see religious extremists launching on a democracy anywhere. I don’t want to see hundreds of thousands of Jews and Palestinians killed because of some nutcase.

    JG: But you don’t believe that that’s going to happen.

    JK: No! No! I think that that is a really distorted and kind of crazily extremist position.

    JG: But most Israeli politicians, left and right now, seem to be believing that Iran does pose an existential threat to Israel’s existence.

    JK: That’s because they fucked up the war in Lebanon. The lesson here is, don’t let an Air Force guy run your military

    JG: Let’s go back to your response to Foxman. I guess I’m just interested in your anger. Do you just think that a minority of Jews are giving people the impression that a majority of Jews think this way about Iran, about Iraq, about the West Bank?

    JK: Exactly. That’s part of it, and also that they seem to have the power to hurt people’s careers. I was really angry about what happened with Rob Malley. You know, it’s amazing to be attacked as an antisemite by extremists who I think are very dangerous. And they seem to think, when you look at what Pete Wehner said, or what Jennifer Rubin said on their blog a couple of days ago, “I can’t imagine why Time hasn’t shut this guy down and fired him and blah blah blah blah blah.” That’s what they want to do. They want to stifle opinions that are different from theirs. I’m certainly not going to back down.

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  149. @neutral

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?
     
    Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore.

    “Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore.”

    The body of people believed to be involved in the “secret” manipulation or control of government policy was granted that authority by us, the people, to keep us safe and secure. They have the freedom to ensure their own vitality just like any other group.

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    geokat62,

    Thanks for posting the lively and informative J. Goldberg and J. Klein discussion.

    The entire conversation was enlightening for me, because of the fact that I followed Joe Klein's Time Magazine Op-Eds during the late-1980s to late-1990s. In fact, I wrote a letter to Times' editor on one of Joe Klein's columns and Time magazine published it. I tried a Google-search
    to recover my letter, but I could "not get it up." Of course you understnad I'm 64 and I do not refer to the male member?

    A blunt & most memorable exchange is the following:

    J. Goldstein... "But most Israeli politicians, left and right, seem to believe that Iran poses an existential threat to Israel's existence."

    Joe Klein... "That's because they fucked up the war in Lebanon and the lesson here is, don't let an Air Force guy run your military."

    At present, given the apparent holes in their 9-11 attack "Fractured Box-Cutter Fairy Tales," I am fairly confident that some key Zionist planners "heads rolled."

    Finally, my wish of the day is a dream that Jeffrey Goldstein opts to enter Unz Review comment faculty, and reinforces Sam Shama who is taking on baptismal water without the aid a Jonah snorkel.

    Thanks again for the tuition-free education , geokat62! Talk soon on P. Giraldi's next revelation!
  150. @Corvinus
    "Is this for real or is this a troll, in this day and age I struggle to tell anymore."

    The body of people believed to be involved in the "secret" manipulation or control of government policy was granted that authority by us, the people, to keep us safe and secure. They have the freedom to ensure their own vitality just like any other group.

    geokat62,

    Thanks for posting the lively and informative J. Goldberg and J. Klein discussion.

    The entire conversation was enlightening for me, because of the fact that I followed Joe Klein’s Time Magazine Op-Eds during the late-1980s to late-1990s. In fact, I wrote a letter to Times’ editor on one of Joe Klein’s columns and Time magazine published it. I tried a Google-search
    to recover my letter, but I could “not get it up.” Of course you understnad I’m 64 and I do not refer to the male member?

    A blunt & most memorable exchange is the following:

    J. Goldstein… “But most Israeli politicians, left and right, seem to believe that Iran poses an existential threat to Israel’s existence.”

    Joe Klein… “That’s because they fucked up the war in Lebanon and the lesson here is, don’t let an Air Force guy run your military.”

    At present, given the apparent holes in their 9-11 attack “Fractured Box-Cutter Fairy Tales,” I am fairly confident that some key Zionist planners “heads rolled.”

    Finally, my wish of the day is a dream that Jeffrey Goldstein opts to enter Unz Review comment faculty, and reinforces Sam Shama who is taking on baptismal water without the aid a Jonah snorkel.

    Thanks again for the tuition-free education , geokat62! Talk soon on P. Giraldi’s next revelation!

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  151. @MEexpert
    I agree with most of your comments. I travelled off and on to Saudi Arabia during the 80s while working for an aerospace company. I also lived there in the late 70s. There was American and British military presence there but the US did not have a formal base at the time. They had couple of AVACS stationed to monitor the Iraq-Iran war. One of the AVACS used to be in the air all the time. I have not forgotten the Zionist involvement in all US actions in the middle east.

    After the Desert Storm, when the hostilities calmed down, the Saudis demanded that US end the military presence in the Kingdom. If you had followed the events in those days, which by the way I was doing at the time, you would have noticed that Saddam was told to move again towards Saudi Arabia. Again Saudis panicked and the US stayed.

    It was Papa Bush who gave signals to the Kurds and Shiite to rise up against Saddam but did not give them any material support. Saddam took deadly revenge on both Shiites and Kurds by gassing them. There was no safe zone as demanded these days in Syria. Gen. Schwarzkoph wrote about his frustration to see Saddam's helicopters bombing the helpless Shiite villages in the South but he was under orders not to intervene.

    When it comes to middle east the Zio-neocon angle can never be discounted. Every US president is subservient to the Israeli commands.

    Thank you for your comments.

    “Every US president is subservient to Israeli commands.”

    Yes — and the Corporate Media provokes the mass of American “Sheeple” to actually believe President Obama defied B. Netanuahu’s requirements just because, for one example, he did not bomb President Assad out of Damascus.

    Was it December 2016 when President Barack Hussein Obama forked over $38 billion (over the span of 10-years) to Israel for its defense?

    Oh man, War for Blair Mountain, I sincerely wish that all the “pests” I must associate with were so generous as to donate lots of money, in order to support my NOT HAVING to dip into honestly earned money to defend my family’s existence.

    The “Zio-neocons” have Americans so fucked up that they avoid contemplating what $1-trillion is. The debt keeps rising by the seconds and what is it now? $20-trillion?
    No problem though, President Donald Trump will make up for Obama’s being so cheap with poor Israel!

    One trillion, one trillion, one trillion. A recommended experiment for the staff of new Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin : Starting at US/Canadian border, near Watertown, NY, lay five (5) trillion slices of “Hansel & Gretel” bread (face down) upon Interstate 81 South and see how far it goes.

    Thanks again, War for Blair Mountain, for jaw-boning with me!

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    Chuck and others - I'm enjoying the exchange - some really great posts in here.

    Peace.
  152. @Chuck Orloski
    "Every US president is subservient to Israeli commands."

    Yes -- and the Corporate Media provokes the mass of American "Sheeple" to actually believe President Obama defied B. Netanuahu's requirements just because, for one example, he did not bomb President Assad out of Damascus.

    Was it December 2016 when President Barack Hussein Obama forked over $38 billion (over the span of 10-years) to Israel for its defense?

    Oh man, War for Blair Mountain, I sincerely wish that all the "pests" I must associate with were so generous as to donate lots of money, in order to support my NOT HAVING to dip into honestly earned money to defend my family's existence.

    The "Zio-neocons" have Americans so fucked up that they avoid contemplating what $1-trillion is. The debt keeps rising by the seconds and what is it now? $20-trillion?
    No problem though, President Donald Trump will make up for Obama's being so cheap with poor Israel!

    One trillion, one trillion, one trillion. A recommended experiment for the staff of new Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin : Starting at US/Canadian border, near Watertown, NY, lay five (5) trillion slices of "Hansel & Gretel" bread (face down) upon Interstate 81 South and see how far it goes.

    Thanks again, War for Blair Mountain, for jaw-boning with me!

    Chuck and others – I’m enjoying the exchange – some really great posts in here.

    Peace.

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  153. @Minnesota Mary
    Kelly Ayotte was one of the "Three Amigos" replacing Joe Lieberman. She is not to be trusted just as her pals McCain and Graham are not to be trusted.

    Because he trashed our president on foreign soil and because he has had a hand in our military’s degradation – McCain should lose his chairmanship of the senate defense committee.

    Enough of that warmongering bastard. He is unworthy of that position. Under his committee leadership our military is hurting, both personal wise and equipment wise.

    In our system of government, presidents make foreign policy – not senators.

    McCain is an incompetent and a traitor to our constitutional system.

    Peace — Art

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  154. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Chuck Orloski
    "An given my luv for the Haskell programming language..."

    That's fantastic, "War for Blair Mountain." As a 1950's kid, I had love for Eddie Haskell's language, popularized TV's "Leave it to Beaver."

    At any rate, upon return from a rather long walk, encompassing my Taylor PA apartment to the hills of S. Scranton, I returned here and note neither you nor geokat62 have yet responded to my comment # 130. You have "The Right" to silence and perhaps I am too arrogant to realize such.

    At any rate, while walking, I began to consider Jonathan Swift's tremendous classic satire. Travels." Step by step, nearby St. Mary's Greek Catholic Cemetery, it dawned on me how current American public literature education-curriculum has youth weaned on "Harry Potter"
    liver's Travels." Shall I request a round of applause for the triumphant Frankfurt School?

    Recall how Jonathan Swift's skilled satire pissed off the early 18th century ruling "Whigs"? Today, I note how Britain's Chief Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks wants to have Stephen Stephen
    Hawkings criminalized for his refusal to profess "luv" for Israel. Ugh.

    (F.Y.I., recently, Stephen Hawkings met with Pope Francis who is on record of being in favor of Palestinian human & political rights)

    In America, there are truly great political satirists, but at present I can not name one off-hand. I have respect for old time political satire, for example, Mad Magazine. There are truly excellent American political cartoonists, but at present, only Ted Rall's work comes to mind.

    It's pretty cheap of me to claim even a < Tom Joad-stake in today's world of top notch dissident political satire. What's probably worse is to make a "show" out of a satiric-snippet I had written and was posted by the good grace of "The Uncommon Thought Journal" editor.

    Oh well, Mr. War for Blair Mountain, the US Zionists have declared all out war upon (world) population AWARENESS and below is my Gulliver-tithe to upend the upside down truth as I see it.

    http://www.uncommonthought.com/mtblog/archives/2017/02/17/prime-minister-netanyahus-crazy-negevist-bedroom-enterprise.php

    Chuck….

    Your posting on “Uncommon Thought” is not only uncommon but very thoughtfully creative. This piece is just what the Unz Review needs more of . Satire that not only mocks the key members of the criminal Zionists around the world but scartiscally attacks them in a way that informs everyone, in a funny way, of their
    recent nafarious activities. You have an uncanny nack in making a serious subject
    ENTERTAINING.

    Thanks

    Keith

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    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    Oh my, Keith. Thank you very much, and I am sincerely humbled by your generous comment on my snippet-satire! The way I manage to cope with the sick sate of US/Zionist politics is to recognize that a daily dose of laughter makes life in The Empire a bit more livable.

    To Talha, in response to comment # 155: It's Bush-league to try and kiss butt with Ron Unz, but the cast of authors and commenters (randomly assembled here) are really great for the honorable purpose of learning, awareness. I sincerely miss your voice and I wondered where you been. Thanks!
    , @Anonymous
    I apologize for the blogging error.

    Sarcastically attacks... instead of a Hindi word, scartically.

    I need upgraded reading glasses.
  155. Riots in Sweden: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-20/meanwhile-rioting-breaks-out-sweden
    “… riots breaking out in the highly immigrant concentrated town of Rinkeby, Sweden with police firing warning shots as 100s of young people throw stones and burn cars….

    According to AP report, an al-Qaida-linked group is busy recruiting anti-government fighters among Somali youths living in Rinkeby. A suburb of Stockholm, Rinkeby has earned the nickname of “Little Mogadishu” because of the number of Somalis living there. Rinkeby is also the center of the recruiting efforts of al-Shabab, a group with ties to al-Qaida.”

    Don’t you remember how Swedish government has been treating the courageous Assange? – “Assange’s London attorney, Mark Stephens, told AOL News that Swedish prosecutors told him that Assange is wanted not for allegations of rape, as previously reported, but for something called “sex by surprise,” which he said involves a fine of 5,000 kronor or about $715.”
    Time for the Swedes to tar and feather the despicable Swedish Chief-Prosecutor Marianne Ny, alone with the celebrity lawyer (mega-scoundrel) Claes Borgström. “The available information on her charges and actions against Julian Assange, the founder and head of Wikileaks, indicates that she is driven more by the politics than any respect for the law.” http://theindicter.com/prosecutor-marianne-ny-is-just-embarrassing-the-swedish-legal-system/
    Meanwhile in the UK, the friends of Savile (a famous pedophile) keep Assange imprisoned. Why? See the above: for consensual “sex by surprise” between adults. What a great opportunity to remind the world about the special treatment of Savile, a sexual predator that had abused hundreds of children with impunity: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse-timeline Despite numerous evidence of his crimes, Savile was protected “from above” by other “righteous” pedophiles in the US government and BBC: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/17/westminster-child-abuse-paedophile-ring-failure
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/12172773/Jimmy-Savile-sex-abuse-report-to-be-published-live.html

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  156. @Anonymous
    Chuck....


    Your posting on "Uncommon Thought" is not only uncommon but very thoughtfully creative. This piece is just what the Unz Review needs more of . Satire that not only mocks the key members of the criminal Zionists around the world but scartiscally attacks them in a way that informs everyone, in a funny way, of their
    recent nafarious activities. You have an uncanny nack in making a serious subject
    ENTERTAINING.

    Thanks

    Keith

    Oh my, Keith. Thank you very much, and I am sincerely humbled by your generous comment on my snippet-satire! The way I manage to cope with the sick sate of US/Zionist politics is to recognize that a daily dose of laughter makes life in The Empire a bit more livable.

    To Talha, in response to comment # 155: It’s Bush-league to try and kiss butt with Ron Unz, but the cast of authors and commenters (randomly assembled here) are really great for the honorable purpose of learning, awareness. I sincerely miss your voice and I wondered where you been. Thanks!

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    • Replies: @Talha
    Hey Chuck - been on some other threads (and work became busier), but I'm glad I popped in on this one. Like you said - lots to learn from!

    By the way - love Ted Rall's stuff!

    Peace.

  157. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Chuck....


    Your posting on "Uncommon Thought" is not only uncommon but very thoughtfully creative. This piece is just what the Unz Review needs more of . Satire that not only mocks the key members of the criminal Zionists around the world but scartiscally attacks them in a way that informs everyone, in a funny way, of their
    recent nafarious activities. You have an uncanny nack in making a serious subject
    ENTERTAINING.

    Thanks

    Keith

    I apologize for the blogging error.

    Sarcastically attacks… instead of a Hindi word, scartically.

    I need upgraded reading glasses.

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  158. @War for Blair Mountain
    You aren't to far from Cabela's. I enjoy going to Cabela's on Saturday mornings watching Native Born White America waiting on line to arm themselves...The big plexiglass acquariam has the largest species Amazonian pirahnna swimming among the fat catfish.

    I am sorry the real “Native born” Americans did not keep out your racist ancestors from coming to their country, so today we wouldn’t have to read your racist and stupid comments. I know the first amendment allows even a donkey to bray whenever he wants to.

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    They weren't the real Native Born White Americans..they were Siberian FORIEGNERS who slaughtered and ate each other for centuries after having slaughtered earlier arriving non-Amerindian groups.

    The racial guilt trip about the "NOBLE" AMERICAN" Injun is only meant to apply to Whitey...never to the highly racialized Chinese "Americans"...Hindu "Americans"...Muslims in Michigan....For once the aforementioned vote whitey into a racial minority on Nov 8 2020....they get a blank check to enjoy the full-benefits of the European conquest of North America. They racial guilt trip about the "Noble American" Injun...gets quickly flushed down the toilet...real quick...
  159. @MEexpert
    I am sorry the real "Native born" Americans did not keep out your racist ancestors from coming to their country, so today we wouldn't have to read your racist and stupid comments. I know the first amendment allows even a donkey to bray whenever he wants to.

    They weren’t the real Native Born White Americans..they were Siberian FORIEGNERS who slaughtered and ate each other for centuries after having slaughtered earlier arriving non-Amerindian groups.

    The racial guilt trip about the “NOBLE” AMERICAN” Injun is only meant to apply to Whitey…never to the highly racialized Chinese “Americans”…Hindu “Americans”…Muslims in Michigan….For once the aforementioned vote whitey into a racial minority on Nov 8 2020….they get a blank check to enjoy the full-benefits of the European conquest of North America. They racial guilt trip about the “Noble American” Injun…gets quickly flushed down the toilet…real quick…

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  160. @Chuck Orloski
    Oh my, Keith. Thank you very much, and I am sincerely humbled by your generous comment on my snippet-satire! The way I manage to cope with the sick sate of US/Zionist politics is to recognize that a daily dose of laughter makes life in The Empire a bit more livable.

    To Talha, in response to comment # 155: It's Bush-league to try and kiss butt with Ron Unz, but the cast of authors and commenters (randomly assembled here) are really great for the honorable purpose of learning, awareness. I sincerely miss your voice and I wondered where you been. Thanks!

    Hey Chuck – been on some other threads (and work became busier), but I’m glad I popped in on this one. Like you said – lots to learn from!

    By the way – love Ted Rall’s stuff!

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Chuck Orloski
    Talha,

    Ted Rall's humor is as good as it's permitted to get, & that means without his getting taken down by pervasive US /Zionist Thought Conditioners.

    I can not say I am a regular follower of Ted's work, but it appears his political sins are forgiven due to his standard featuring of Nazis as history's Greatest Evildoers.

    I really do not know if Ted Rall brought satiric hellfire upon President G.W. Bush's Neocons & their immoral War Against Evil? But now, Talha, I will do a Rall-search to check.

    Hope to meet again on another comment 'thread"!

    F.Y.I., at present, nothing special is brewing for me on Philip Giraldi's latest "Awareness First!" article, and the cast of phony "Progressives" who support the War of Terror. I was going to mention that washed up 60's radical, Bob Dylan's, latest recording consists of his doing Frank Sinatra covers. But at least Zimmy avoided doing free concerts for Wall Street & AIG when they were about to go down "Maggie's Farm" septic system. "I don't wanna' work for Cheney's Halliburton-Iraq no more!" Thanks and I wish you well!
  161. @Talha
    Hey Chuck - been on some other threads (and work became busier), but I'm glad I popped in on this one. Like you said - lots to learn from!

    By the way - love Ted Rall's stuff!

    Peace.

    Talha,

    Ted Rall’s humor is as good as it’s permitted to get, & that means without his getting taken down by pervasive US /Zionist Thought Conditioners.

    I can not say I am a regular follower of Ted’s work, but it appears his political sins are forgiven due to his standard featuring of Nazis as history’s Greatest Evildoers.

    I really do not know if Ted Rall brought satiric hellfire upon President G.W. Bush’s Neocons & their immoral War Against Evil? But now, Talha, I will do a Rall-search to check.

    Hope to meet again on another comment ‘thread”!

    F.Y.I., at present, nothing special is brewing for me on Philip Giraldi’s latest “Awareness First!” article, and the cast of phony “Progressives” who support the War of Terror. I was going to mention that washed up 60′s radical, Bob Dylan’s, latest recording consists of his doing Frank Sinatra covers. But at least Zimmy avoided doing free concerts for Wall Street & AIG when they were about to go down “Maggie’s Farm” septic system. “I don’t wanna’ work for Cheney’s Halliburton-Iraq no more!” Thanks and I wish you well!

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  162. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Corvinus
    Leave it to Patrick to curry Fake News. Here are the facts...

    In late December, the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia. The reason? Evidence indicating that it interfered with the presidential election to boost Trump while he was running for president. Putin did not retaliate for the sanctions, breaking with precedent and shocking the Obama White House and U.S. diplomats and intelligence professionals. An explanation soon emerged. Flynn, still a private citizen but tapped to be Trump's national security adviser, had had multiple communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States about the sanctions the day they were imposed. The speculation is that Flynn may have promised that the incoming Trump administration would go easy on Russia, and so hinted that an aggressive response by Putin would be unnecessary. Whatever was actually said, Flynn then lied to Vice President Mike Pence and others about having discussed sanctions with the ambassador, and Trump spokespeople repeated those lies publicly. But U.S. counter-intelligence wiretapping of the Russian ambassador had recorded the communications involving Flynn, and sanctions were very much a topic of conversation. Soon after the inauguration, the Department of Justice informed Trump and the White House counsel about the recordings, saying that Flynn's false denial that they occurred opened him up to Russian blackmail. Trump did nothing publicly until the above details were leaked to the press. And then Flynn was abruptly gone.

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    Does not the Deep State have the liberty to look out for its interests, similar to the Alt Right? Similar to Trump? Similar to white nationalists?

    You are absolutely right, and I don’t even understand the meaning of “Deep State” in this context. Isn’t this precisely what the FBI/CIA/NSA etc. supposed to do? Protect the nation from the machinations of Russia which would’ve certainly blackmailed a compromised head of the agency? I am looking at the comments of the geniuses on this section, shaking my head in disbelief at their monumental stupidity in thinking of Putin as a fast friend. Even if one believes that we should have friendlier relations with Russia, which I do, it is naivete of the most transparent variety to think that Putin would simply forget Russia’s history with the West, especially the USA and carry on as if the slate is clean!! He will look for every advantage !!

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  163. @War for Blair Mountain
    Working Class Native Born White American Teenagers "choose" to be in the Military...US Military Recruiters know this and build their tv advertising around this....this is your first lie....I write from experience....

    9/11 was the intersection of US foriegn policy and immigration policy...it does not follow from this that The Native Born White American Christian Majority should tolerate the presence of Muslim "Americans" within the borders of the US...no Muslims in America...9/11 never happens...


    The Historic Native Born White Americans is under no obligation to committ demographic suicide within the borders of America because Chinese "Americans" demand it...because Pakistani "Muslims" demand it...and because Hindu "Americans demand it...


    The nonwhite Democratic Party Voting demands racial minority status for The Historic Native Born White American Majority....this is a declaration of a RACE WAR!!!!

    9/11 was the intersection of US foriegn policy and immigration policy…it does not follow from this that The Native Born White American Christian Majority should tolerate the presence of Muslim “Americans” within the borders of the US…no Muslims in America…9/11 never happens…

    In 2001, about 3000 people died in 9/11. Since then US has killed or displaced millions of people around the world, has destabilized several countries and continue to stick her nose where it doesn’t belong and continues to wreak havoc on innocent people.

    In 2002, there were more than 43,000 auto related deaths in the US. Latest figure available, for 2015 shows that more than 35,000 people were killed in car related accidents. In 2015, there were 33,000 gun related deaths.

    One must conclude, as it is quite obvious, that 9/11 was just an excuse or a false flag, to put into operation what the US is all about and that is to control the world. All the terrorists attacks since 2001 have been sting operations by the FBI. With billions of dollars spent on counter intelligence operations, the intelligence agencies cannot prevent these, so called, terrorrist attacks on the homeland. Why do we need these agencies?

    Since the probability of dying by a gun or a car accident is ten thousand times more than death by a Muslim terorist attack, we must expel all the automobiles and all the guns along with all the “Native born White Americans” from the United States, since chances are that those automobiles and the guns were being used by them.

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  164. @War for Blair Mountain
    Does this include POTUS Trump enthusiastically giving military aid to Saudia Arabia which funds ISIS...?

    Does this include the US Military's illegal occupation of Syria?


    Does this include POTUS Trump's daily threats against Christian Russia over Crimea?

    You have a point there!

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