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That memo worked up in the Intel Committee of Chairman Devin Nunes may not have sunk the Mueller investigation, but from the sound of the secondary explosions, this torpedo was no dud.

The critical charge:

To persuade a FISA court to issue a warrant to spy on Trump aide Carter Page, the FBI relied on a dossier produced by a Trump-hating British spy, who was using old Kremlin contacts, while being paid to dig up dirt on Donald Trump by Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Not only were the Clinton campaign and DNC paying the spy, Christopher Steele, for his dirt-diving, the FBI put Steele on its own payroll, until they caught him lying about leaking to the media.

In their requests for search warrants, the FBI never told the FISA court judge their primary source was a 35-page dossier delivered by Steele that their own Director James Comey described as “salacious and unverified.”

From the Nunes memo, there was, at the highest level of the FBI, a cabal determined to derail Trump and elect Clinton. Heading the cabal was Comey, who made the call to exonerate Hillary of criminal charges for imperiling national security secrets, even before his own FBI investigation was concluded.

Assisting Comey was Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, whose wife, running for a Virginia state senate seat, received a windfall of $467,000 in contributions from Clinton bundler Terry McAuliffe.

Last week, McCabe was discharged from the FBI. Seems that in late September 2016, he learned from his New York field office that it was sitting on a trove of emails between Anthony Weiner and his wife, Clinton aide Huma Abedin, which potentially contained security secrets.

Not until late October did Comey inform Congress of what deputy McCabe had known a month earlier.

Other FBI plotters were Peter Strzok, chief investigator in both the Clinton email server scandal and Russiagate, and his FBI girlfriend, Lisa Page. Both were ousted from the Mueller investigation when their anti-Trump bias and behavior were exposed last summer.

Filling out the starting five was Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general under Loretta Lynch. In 2016, Ohr’s wife was working for Fusion GPS, the oppo research arm of the Clinton campaign, and Bruce was in direct contact with Steele.

Now virtually all of this went down before Robert Mueller was named special counsel. But the poisoned roots of the Russiagate investigation and the bristling hostility of the investigators to Trump must cast a cloud of suspicion over whatever charges Mueller will bring.

Now another head may be about to fall, that of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

If Mueller has given up trying to prove Trump collusion with the Kremlin and moved on to obstruction of justice charges, Rosenstein moves into the crosshairs.

For the heart of any obstruction scenario is Trump’s firing of James Comey and his boasting about why he did it.

But not only did Rosenstein discuss with Trump the firing of Comey, he went back to Justice to produce the document to justify what the president had decided to do.

How can Rosenstein oversee Mueller’s investigation into the firing of James Comey when he was a witness to and a participant in the firing of James Comey?

The Roman poet Juvenal’s question comes to mind. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchmen?

Consider where we are. Mueller is investigating alleged Trump collusion with Russia, and the White House is all lawyered up.

The House intel committee is investigating Clinton-FBI collusion to defeat Trump and break his presidency. FBI Inspector General Michael Horowitz is looking into whether the fix was in to give Hillary a pass in the probe of her email server.

ORDER IT NOW

Comey has been fired, his deputy McCabe removed, his chief investigator Strzok ousted by Mueller for bigoted anti-Trump behavior, alongside his FBI paramour, Page. Bruce Ohr has been demoted for colluding with Steele, who was caught lying to the FBI and fired, and for his wife’s role in Fusion GPS, which was being paid to dig up dirt on Trump for Clinton’s campaign.

If Americans are losing confidence in the FBI, whose fault is that? Is there not evidence that a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?

To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. There must be many heads rolling in Washington. D. C. The FBI, DOJ, and the Intel community such as the CIA, the NSA are rotten institutions. I’m flabbergasted that Jeff Sessions hasn’t fired Rosenstein long ago. All these thugs from the Obama administration have to brought to justice, including Obama himself and especially Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

    https://ahtribune.com/us/maga/2126-trump-deep-state.html

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    One of the key weaknesses may be the prevalence of a narrow range of Ivy League graduates in key top tier functions at the FBI, CIA etc.

    This creates a chummy esprit de corps while simultaneously diluting any residual sense of obligation to the wider interests of the country and its people.

    The social background of key personnel also bears scrutiny.

    Observers of Britain's problem with the "Cambridge Five" and other toff traitors have noted that those taught from childhood to regard themselves as G-d's gift to the country and to despise the "lower classes" are much more likely to turn traitor, particularly when they suffer an inevitable career setback or need more money for their sexual predilections.

    By contrast, France tended to recruit many of its secret service officers from a broader background through state schools and universities, thus inculcating a greater sense of affinity with the state as a whole. This seems to have resulted in a lower incidence of treason.
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  2. Who has the catch 22 noose around its neck?

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  3. MEexpert says:

    I thought Mueller was appointed to investigate collusion between Russia and Trump Campaign. After a year no collusion has been proven. End of story. The investigation should be terminated by the Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein. If Rosenstein does not do that, Attorney General Sessions should fire both Rosenstein and Mueller. For a person who made the phrase “You are fired” a household name, Trump is letting this investigation go on indefinitely. Who is in-charge here?

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  4. “If Americans are losing confidence in the FBI, whose fault is that?”

    If my lying eyes believe what they see in the M5M, it is the Republicans’ fault, particularly Rep. Nunes.

    I mean, why else would DOJ and FBI have threatened to subpoena his committee records and investigate him? And then there is all this talk about the Executive Branch threatening the independence of Law Enforcement, as if LE is independent of the Executive Branch and as if they can intimidate the Executive and Legislative Branches with impunity.

    Who will guard the guardians indeed?

    And when will BHO and HRC et al be asked to justify their manifold malfeasances, misfeasances, and nonfeasances while in office?

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  5. Rurik says:

    a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?

    Beautifully written article Mr. Buchanan

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.

    What it always looks like to me, is that the interests of the deep state never coincide with the actual interests of the American people, and that indeed, they are mutually incompatible.

    It seems to me that one of, if not the main motivation of the deep state is to dismantle the American people’s Constitutional rights, disarm then, and set about creating an Orwellian dystopia for the purpose of exerting total power over them.

    Who doubts that Hillary’s very grotesque existence is one big collective desire of a certain bent of people to wield total power over others? Why else would she publically cackle at the torture/murder of a man she disliked unless she figured her audience agreed that his murder was a good thing, and that once she came to power, that she’s really get to the business of putting it to those deplorables but good! Not for anything they ever did, but for what they were – irredeemable.

    In fact, I see the deep state today as an exact incarnation of Orwell’s Ingsoc, with it’s total surveillance police state, and all the other tyrannical state power abuses over every aspect of our lives. (Even with the ubiquitous televisions with the microphones and cameras monitored by the Ministry of Love)

    we have the Newspeak speech codes on our universities. The places where our young and brightest are supposed to be taught to think, and they’re doing the opposite- by creating mindless drones who parrot doubleplus good PC bromides.

    we have the Eternal Wars

    we have the ((inner party))

    we have the two minute hate for the Hitler du jour, (Osama, Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad, now Putin…)

    we have the Ministry of Truth = msm fake news 24/7 lies and more lies

    we have the Ministry of Love = Gitmo

    we have the all pervasive fear that governs our conversations and alters our behavior. How many dare to discuss the inner party at dinner parties or at work? How many dare to flout the speech codes?

    1984 was the most prescient book ever written, with a nod to The Protocols, as runner up. And the deep state today is nothing more than what Orwell was writing about. Men and women who seek power for its own sake. And have a deep-seated imperative to wield that power over others.

    That’s what the memo is about. Power-crazed assholes hell bent on putting their boot on our collective faces. And mashing it in.

    who doubts, for one second, that John Brenan

    (or Hillary or John McCain…) would relish the opportunity to put the metaphorical ‘deplorable’ in this chair?

    for some reason, when I look at that photo, (a peek into the id of the deep state personality) I see Ron Paul in that chair, with Rudy Giuliani standing there, but it could just as easily be Edward Snowden in the chair, with Dick Cheney presiding..

    But the reason I’m belaboring this Orwellian theme is because it is quintessentially salient to this subject of the deep state.

    George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest…

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest…"

    True enough, but it was Huxley who nailed the underlying theme that made it all possible; the people will trade all of their other rights for complete sexual freedom.
    , @Miro23
    I agree, and you put it very clearly.

    Orwell's 1984 was an exposition of Totalitarianism, with the Inner Party using these mechanisms because they work. Like you say, the whole package is now present in the US, although the Inner Party doesn't yet have sufficient power to use full state violence against the public.

    But at some point they'll have to , since the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough). So, realistically, the cabal needs a National Emergency with an official suspension of Democracy, probably using the framework for emergency rule already in place under Reagan era COG (Continuity of Government) legislation.

    The 9/11 Coup was a failed attempt to activate a COG dictatorship under Cheney (halted by the events in Florida that morning), but the same planners will inevitably try again. Their private security depends on public insecurity, allowing them to turn the mechanisms of state power against the public, while paradoxically, they live by the integrity of this same hijacked state structure.

    If the state should melt away in generalized anarchy, then the levers of power would no longer work, and they would face the fate of Ceausescu or Gaddafi - hence the deceptive Doublespeak of the "Patriot Act" and "Homeland Security".

    , @Cassandra
    I’ll see your 1984 and raise you Seven Days in May. If you are familiar with it you understand, if you haven’t, watch it. This 1964 classic, (actually a very good film) was made during an election year. Remember the Johnson political ad where a little girl counting Daisy petals turns into a nuclear launch countdown then a mushroom cloud? Rod Serling wrote the screenplay, and it is about a fictional liberal President played by an actual liberal actor, Frederic March, fighting to save he country from a coup by a Conservative General, played by the Burt Lancaster. Hollywood has been working with Liberals in the beltway for over 50 years to convince the American people that the only threat to the Republic is from the reactionary Right. The angelic, altruistic Left is incapable of such things (though history begs to differ). Ironically, it is Trump, a Republican (I dare not call him a conservative) whose lawfully elected Administration is being undermined in a coup d‘ etat. Yet, I suspect that the hatred of Trump is such that a huge slice of the country would support his removal by extralegal, unconstitutional means. This is bigger than Watergate, a conspiracy at the highest levels, and before it’s over, will decide the fate of the nation. I just hope Trump is up to the task.
    https://youtu.be/s23A5Fc0cY4
    , @Liberty Mike
    Rurik -

    Very well done.
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  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?
     
    Beautifully written article Mr. Buchanan

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.
     
    What it always looks like to me, is that the interests of the deep state never coincide with the actual interests of the American people, and that indeed, they are mutually incompatible.

    It seems to me that one of, if not the main motivation of the deep state is to dismantle the American people's Constitutional rights, disarm then, and set about creating an Orwellian dystopia for the purpose of exerting total power over them.

    Who doubts that Hillary's very grotesque existence is one big collective desire of a certain bent of people to wield total power over others? Why else would she publically cackle at the torture/murder of a man she disliked unless she figured her audience agreed that his murder was a good thing, and that once she came to power, that she's really get to the business of putting it to those deplorables but good! Not for anything they ever did, but for what they were - irredeemable.

    In fact, I see the deep state today as an exact incarnation of Orwell's Ingsoc, with it's total surveillance police state, and all the other tyrannical state power abuses over every aspect of our lives. (Even with the ubiquitous televisions with the microphones and cameras monitored by the Ministry of Love)

    we have the Newspeak speech codes on our universities. The places where our young and brightest are supposed to be taught to think, and they're doing the opposite- by creating mindless drones who parrot doubleplus good PC bromides.

    we have the Eternal Wars

    we have the ((inner party))

    we have the two minute hate for the Hitler du jour, (Osama, Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad, now Putin...)

    we have the Ministry of Truth = msm fake news 24/7 lies and more lies

    we have the Ministry of Love = Gitmo

    we have the all pervasive fear that governs our conversations and alters our behavior. How many dare to discuss the inner party at dinner parties or at work? How many dare to flout the speech codes?

    1984 was the most prescient book ever written, with a nod to The Protocols, as runner up. And the deep state today is nothing more than what Orwell was writing about. Men and women who seek power for its own sake. And have a deep-seated imperative to wield that power over others.

    That's what the memo is about. Power-crazed assholes hell bent on putting their boot on our collective faces. And mashing it in.

    who doubts, for one second, that John Brenan

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/John-Brennan-2.jpg

    (or Hillary or John McCain...) would relish the opportunity to put the metaphorical 'deplorable' in this chair?

    https://i2.wp.com/blasphemoustomes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/room-101-rat.jpg

    for some reason, when I look at that photo, (a peek into the id of the deep state personality) I see Ron Paul in that chair, with Rudy Giuliani standing there, but it could just as easily be Edward Snowden in the chair, with Dick Cheney presiding..

    But the reason I'm belaboring this Orwellian theme is because it is quintessentially salient to this subject of the deep state.

    George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest...

    “George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest…”

    True enough, but it was Huxley who nailed the underlying theme that made it all possible; the people will trade all of their other rights for complete sexual freedom.

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    yes, Huxley deserves his due

    only it seems there just isn't enough soma to lobotomize the sheople fast enough, and so they require some good ol' fashioned police state total surveillance to go with the spiritual depravity and cultural sewage.

    plus, I rather suspect that people like Hillary, (and the CFR, PNAC, CIA, ADL, SPLC, DEA, FBI, AIPAC, ETC...) really prefer the brute domination of Orwell vs. Huxley's willfully catatonic zombies.

    It's just so much more fun for them. Do you think Hillary would have cackled like a giddy hyena if Gadhafi had overdosed on orgies and partying?

    What fun is that?!

    If Putin were to do a Pope Francis and turn gay overnight, and forswear Christianity and demand more Hollywood type of perversion in Russia, and declare Russia a gay-friendly nation, and open the borders and demand that Assad has to go', how would that be any fun for McCain and the neocons? It's be the biggest anticlimax the world has ever known. The whole fun of sanctioning and threatening Putin's Russia is because it's run by an unapologetic white, Christian nationalist, who they want to bludgeon into submission. That's what makes them feel all potent and virile and good about themselves!

    What fun is it if your quarry kneels down and assumes the position? What fun would it be to intimidate and demonize Les Deplorables if they all decided to be gay, Xanexed, SJW snowflakes overnight? How would Soros or Adelson be able to gloat if Europe and N. America simply did a Captain Sweden

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Captain-Sweden.png

    on them, and embraced their own genocide? No, no, no. That simply would not due!

    There has to be some fun to it, and so you don't want them all to embrace their submission to the police state, since then what's the point?

    They have to want to be free, and want to persevere, if enslaving them and replacing them is going to be any fun at all. You see?

    And that's why Orwell's methods will win out over Huxley's. Because what fun is wielding power, unless your victims writhe under your lash?

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/soros-hillary.jpg
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  7. Rurik says:
    @Anonymous
    "George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest…"

    True enough, but it was Huxley who nailed the underlying theme that made it all possible; the people will trade all of their other rights for complete sexual freedom.

    yes, Huxley deserves his due

    only it seems there just isn’t enough soma to lobotomize the sheople fast enough, and so they require some good ol’ fashioned police state total surveillance to go with the spiritual depravity and cultural sewage.

    plus, I rather suspect that people like Hillary, (and the CFR, PNAC, CIA, ADL, SPLC, DEA, FBI, AIPAC, ETC…) really prefer the brute domination of Orwell vs. Huxley’s willfully catatonic zombies.

    It’s just so much more fun for them. Do you think Hillary would have cackled like a giddy hyena if Gadhafi had overdosed on orgies and partying?

    What fun is that?!

    If Putin were to do a Pope Francis and turn gay overnight, and forswear Christianity and demand more Hollywood type of perversion in Russia, and declare Russia a gay-friendly nation, and open the borders and demand that Assad has to go’, how would that be any fun for McCain and the neocons? It’s be the biggest anticlimax the world has ever known. The whole fun of sanctioning and threatening Putin’s Russia is because it’s run by an unapologetic white, Christian nationalist, who they want to bludgeon into submission. That’s what makes them feel all potent and virile and good about themselves!

    What fun is it if your quarry kneels down and assumes the position? What fun would it be to intimidate and demonize Les Deplorables if they all decided to be gay, Xanexed, SJW snowflakes overnight? How would Soros or Adelson be able to gloat if Europe and N. America simply did a Captain Sweden

    on them, and embraced their own genocide? No, no, no. That simply would not due!

    There has to be some fun to it, and so you don’t want them all to embrace their submission to the police state, since then what’s the point?

    They have to want to be free, and want to persevere, if enslaving them and replacing them is going to be any fun at all. You see?

    And that’s why Orwell’s methods will win out over Huxley’s. Because what fun is wielding power, unless your victims writhe under your lash?

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    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    Rurik -

    Excellent.

    However, I would suggest that some in the cabal have understood, all along, that in order for their dreams and plans to materialize, there would have to be a Long March through the institutions and while they were conquering the institutions, the masses would have to be given their breads and circuses.

    A fellow traveler of our cause once said to me, words to the effect that, "they'll let you go on your football trips, and they'll let the drunks enjoy their Budweiser, and of course they'll let people go to the movies and out to dinner."

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  8. Miro23 says:
    @Rurik

    a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?
     
    Beautifully written article Mr. Buchanan

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.
     
    What it always looks like to me, is that the interests of the deep state never coincide with the actual interests of the American people, and that indeed, they are mutually incompatible.

    It seems to me that one of, if not the main motivation of the deep state is to dismantle the American people's Constitutional rights, disarm then, and set about creating an Orwellian dystopia for the purpose of exerting total power over them.

    Who doubts that Hillary's very grotesque existence is one big collective desire of a certain bent of people to wield total power over others? Why else would she publically cackle at the torture/murder of a man she disliked unless she figured her audience agreed that his murder was a good thing, and that once she came to power, that she's really get to the business of putting it to those deplorables but good! Not for anything they ever did, but for what they were - irredeemable.

    In fact, I see the deep state today as an exact incarnation of Orwell's Ingsoc, with it's total surveillance police state, and all the other tyrannical state power abuses over every aspect of our lives. (Even with the ubiquitous televisions with the microphones and cameras monitored by the Ministry of Love)

    we have the Newspeak speech codes on our universities. The places where our young and brightest are supposed to be taught to think, and they're doing the opposite- by creating mindless drones who parrot doubleplus good PC bromides.

    we have the Eternal Wars

    we have the ((inner party))

    we have the two minute hate for the Hitler du jour, (Osama, Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad, now Putin...)

    we have the Ministry of Truth = msm fake news 24/7 lies and more lies

    we have the Ministry of Love = Gitmo

    we have the all pervasive fear that governs our conversations and alters our behavior. How many dare to discuss the inner party at dinner parties or at work? How many dare to flout the speech codes?

    1984 was the most prescient book ever written, with a nod to The Protocols, as runner up. And the deep state today is nothing more than what Orwell was writing about. Men and women who seek power for its own sake. And have a deep-seated imperative to wield that power over others.

    That's what the memo is about. Power-crazed assholes hell bent on putting their boot on our collective faces. And mashing it in.

    who doubts, for one second, that John Brenan

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/John-Brennan-2.jpg

    (or Hillary or John McCain...) would relish the opportunity to put the metaphorical 'deplorable' in this chair?

    https://i2.wp.com/blasphemoustomes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/room-101-rat.jpg

    for some reason, when I look at that photo, (a peek into the id of the deep state personality) I see Ron Paul in that chair, with Rudy Giuliani standing there, but it could just as easily be Edward Snowden in the chair, with Dick Cheney presiding..

    But the reason I'm belaboring this Orwellian theme is because it is quintessentially salient to this subject of the deep state.

    George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest...

    I agree, and you put it very clearly.

    Orwell’s 1984 was an exposition of Totalitarianism, with the Inner Party using these mechanisms because they work. Like you say, the whole package is now present in the US, although the Inner Party doesn’t yet have sufficient power to use full state violence against the public.

    But at some point they’ll have to , since the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough). So, realistically, the cabal needs a National Emergency with an official suspension of Democracy, probably using the framework for emergency rule already in place under Reagan era COG (Continuity of Government) legislation.

    The 9/11 Coup was a failed attempt to activate a COG dictatorship under Cheney (halted by the events in Florida that morning), but the same planners will inevitably try again. Their private security depends on public insecurity, allowing them to turn the mechanisms of state power against the public, while paradoxically, they live by the integrity of this same hijacked state structure.

    If the state should melt away in generalized anarchy, then the levers of power would no longer work, and they would face the fate of Ceausescu or Gaddafi – hence the deceptive Doublespeak of the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”.

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    the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough).
     
    this is already happening Miro23,

    when they overtly and openly murdered Michael Hastings, and then overtly lied about it and imposed an overt cover-up, it was, IMO, intended to send a message.

    When they assassinated Seth Rich, and didn't even go to the trouble of taking his expensive watch or wallet full of cash, but called it a "robbery", they were sending a message.

    Pat Tillman had three bullet holes in tight formation to the forehead at very close range. He had soured on the Eternal Wars and was about to go public.

    Andrew Breitbart is another whose death is very suspicious, just as Justice Anthony Scalia. (why no autopsy?!)

    Donna Brazile even went public and said she feared for her life, (from the deep state goons)

    So I think the use of violence as intimidation is already upon us. Didn't they shoot Vicky Weaver in the head while holding her newborn in the doorway of her remote cabin, to send a message?

    If you thumb your nose at the Fiend, ((it)) can murder you with absolute impunity.

    what was the lynching of Gadhafi if not sending a message to the world that no one, not even a head of state of a nation can flout the demonic whim of the Fiend

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/12/5f/48/125f4849b2931688363a55d6f1b69416.jpg

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

    what happened at Las Vegas? Don't you think people are wondering how the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history can be so completely covered up from top to bottom?

    it's domination of our fecal government and law enforcement institutions is total.

    And speaking of Vicky Weaver, it was none other than Robert Mueller who presided over that cover up as well.

    Even while U.S. Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past.
     
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/05/robert-mueller-the-old-fixer-is-back-in-town/

    but it was with 9/11 where he really made his bones as the go-to person for a Deep state cover-up.

    from the link:


    By every indication thus far, Robert Mueller was the first choice of Deep State to further the soft coup against the Trump administration. His extensive “insider” resume reflects an intelligence community operative who is willing to protect the system at all costs.

    There is very little in Mueller’s background that reflects any degree of personal honesty or professional integrity. By all appearances, he is a hardened agent of Deep State willing to provide a deceptive veneer of respectability to the totally corrupt institution known as the FBI.
     

    Doublespeak of the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”.

     

    I agree the term Patriot Act is as Orwellian as it gets, but when I see Dept. of Homeland Security, I can't help but feel they're mocking us, because it is all about their 'homeland' security, but the homeland it refers to is an enemy state in the Middle East.

    When Jeh Johnson was the head of "Homeland Security", I doubt there was one second during his tenure that he wasn't obsessed with doing all he could to harm this nations actual homeland, as a committed enemy of heritage America.

    and as someone pointed out, the Bovinus Americanus will often eagerly participate in their own slavery, as they install Google's and Amazon's microphones and cameras in their bedrooms to augment their convenience, so they don't have to get out of bed.

    'Alexa, please turn off the light'
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  9. Z-man says:

    I’m not following this story much because it’s boring but I will always be a fan of Nunes by the enemies he keeps. Ana Navarro, the ‘Latina’ battle-axe who is a ‘Never Trump’ ‘Republitard’ was on TV and made sure to let everybody know that Nunes was not an Hispanic. He’s of Portugese decent, racial politics. LOL Devin Nunes is ok in my book. Hopefully he’s not an Israeli firster.

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    That explanation of hers probably got the response among Hispanics, "Well, who DON'T know that?" The Spanish surname is spelled 'Nunez'.
    , @Liberty Mike
    I prefer Nunes to Nunez.
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  10. Corvinus says:

    “That memo worked up in the Intel Committee of Chairman Devin Nunes may not have sunk the Mueller investigation, but from the sound of the secondary explosions, this torpedo was no dud.”

    The fact of the matter is that the Nunes Memo is a four page partisan summary that has major holes in it. For example, the FBI had other sources corroborating the Steele Dossier, though the Nunes Memo makes no mention of them, and used them to obtain a FISA warrant.

    There is also more education on this matter.

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    Wow, a memo that alleges without any real proof. Imagine, law enforcement making stuff up to get a warrant. This must be the first time that has happened. Yet, Carter Page the FSB super-spy is still walking around free.
    , @KenH
    Your information is wrong as always, Corvinky. The leftist "Russian collusion" narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts. That's why it's quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there's no evidence of the former.

    If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now? If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also.

    If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don't. In fact, it was the NSA that threatened to spill the beans on the origins of the Steele dossier if the FBI and DOJ failed did not come clean to the FISA court.

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  11. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus
    "That memo worked up in the Intel Committee of Chairman Devin Nunes may not have sunk the Mueller investigation, but from the sound of the secondary explosions, this torpedo was no dud."

    The fact of the matter is that the Nunes Memo is a four page partisan summary that has major holes in it. For example, the FBI had other sources corroborating the Steele Dossier, though the Nunes Memo makes no mention of them, and used them to obtain a FISA warrant.

    There is also more education on this matter.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/960700267313401868

    Wow, a memo that alleges without any real proof. Imagine, law enforcement making stuff up to get a warrant. This must be the first time that has happened. Yet, Carter Page the FSB super-spy is still walking around free.

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  12. @Z-man
    I'm not following this story much because it’s boring but I will always be a fan of Nunes by the enemies he keeps. Ana Navarro, the ‘Latina’ battle-axe who is a ‘Never Trump’ ‘Republitard’ was on TV and made sure to let everybody know that Nunes was not an Hispanic. He’s of Portugese decent, racial politics. LOL Devin Nunes is ok in my book. Hopefully he's not an Israeli firster.

    That explanation of hers probably got the response among Hispanics, “Well, who DON’T know that?” The Spanish surname is spelled ‘Nunez’.

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  13. Rurik says:
    @Miro23
    I agree, and you put it very clearly.

    Orwell's 1984 was an exposition of Totalitarianism, with the Inner Party using these mechanisms because they work. Like you say, the whole package is now present in the US, although the Inner Party doesn't yet have sufficient power to use full state violence against the public.

    But at some point they'll have to , since the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough). So, realistically, the cabal needs a National Emergency with an official suspension of Democracy, probably using the framework for emergency rule already in place under Reagan era COG (Continuity of Government) legislation.

    The 9/11 Coup was a failed attempt to activate a COG dictatorship under Cheney (halted by the events in Florida that morning), but the same planners will inevitably try again. Their private security depends on public insecurity, allowing them to turn the mechanisms of state power against the public, while paradoxically, they live by the integrity of this same hijacked state structure.

    If the state should melt away in generalized anarchy, then the levers of power would no longer work, and they would face the fate of Ceausescu or Gaddafi - hence the deceptive Doublespeak of the "Patriot Act" and "Homeland Security".

    the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough).

    this is already happening Miro23,

    when they overtly and openly murdered Michael Hastings, and then overtly lied about it and imposed an overt cover-up, it was, IMO, intended to send a message.

    When they assassinated Seth Rich, and didn’t even go to the trouble of taking his expensive watch or wallet full of cash, but called it a “robbery”, they were sending a message.

    Pat Tillman had three bullet holes in tight formation to the forehead at very close range. He had soured on the Eternal Wars and was about to go public.

    Andrew Breitbart is another whose death is very suspicious, just as Justice Anthony Scalia. (why no autopsy?!)

    Donna Brazile even went public and said she feared for her life, (from the deep state goons)

    So I think the use of violence as intimidation is already upon us. Didn’t they shoot Vicky Weaver in the head while holding her newborn in the doorway of her remote cabin, to send a message?

    If you thumb your nose at the Fiend, ((it)) can murder you with absolute impunity.

    what was the lynching of Gadhafi if not sending a message to the world that no one, not even a head of state of a nation can flout the demonic whim of the Fiend

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

    what happened at Las Vegas? Don’t you think people are wondering how the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history can be so completely covered up from top to bottom?

    it’s domination of our fecal government and law enforcement institutions is total.

    And speaking of Vicky Weaver, it was none other than Robert Mueller who presided over that cover up as well.

    Even while U.S. Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past.

    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/05/robert-mueller-the-old-fixer-is-back-in-town/

    but it was with 9/11 where he really made his bones as the go-to person for a Deep state cover-up.

    from the link:

    By every indication thus far, Robert Mueller was the first choice of Deep State to further the soft coup against the Trump administration. His extensive “insider” resume reflects an intelligence community operative who is willing to protect the system at all costs.

    There is very little in Mueller’s background that reflects any degree of personal honesty or professional integrity. By all appearances, he is a hardened agent of Deep State willing to provide a deceptive veneer of respectability to the totally corrupt institution known as the FBI.

    Doublespeak of the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”.

    I agree the term Patriot Act is as Orwellian as it gets, but when I see Dept. of Homeland Security, I can’t help but feel they’re mocking us, because it is all about their ‘homeland’ security, but the homeland it refers to is an enemy state in the Middle East.

    When Jeh Johnson was the head of “Homeland Security”, I doubt there was one second during his tenure that he wasn’t obsessed with doing all he could to harm this nations actual homeland, as a committed enemy of heritage America.

    and as someone pointed out, the Bovinus Americanus will often eagerly participate in their own slavery, as they install Google’s and Amazon’s microphones and cameras in their bedrooms to augment their convenience, so they don’t have to get out of bed.

    ‘Alexa, please turn off the light’

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    See, this kind of fake news bad reporting is why you're not a reliable correspondent.

    Andrew Breitbart's death was not suspicious, and there's zero evidence Seth Rich's murder was an assassination.
    , @Miro23

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

     

    9/11 is at the centre of all this. The plain fact is that the WTC towers didn't fall due to fire and the government is lying.

    There's now a mountain of evidence that shows that they are lying, and the only way for US society to stabilize, is to pull every thread of the 9/11 shroud until the whole rotten enterprise is revealed, and the US public can see the plotters in daylight.

    Then they can take a close up look at their enemies and decide what to do with them.

    It's not going to happen under the current government - so in a fundamental way the present US administration and Congress are illegitimate. They're unable to fulfill their duty to the American people, so whoever pulls down the "Democratic" facade will be doing the US a favour.

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  14. KenH says:
    @Corvinus
    "That memo worked up in the Intel Committee of Chairman Devin Nunes may not have sunk the Mueller investigation, but from the sound of the secondary explosions, this torpedo was no dud."

    The fact of the matter is that the Nunes Memo is a four page partisan summary that has major holes in it. For example, the FBI had other sources corroborating the Steele Dossier, though the Nunes Memo makes no mention of them, and used them to obtain a FISA warrant.

    There is also more education on this matter.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/960700267313401868

    Your information is wrong as always, Corvinky. The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts. That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former.

    If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now? If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also.

    If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t. In fact, it was the NSA that threatened to spill the beans on the origins of the Steele dossier if the FBI and DOJ failed did not come clean to the FISA court.

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    "The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts."

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong. Not with your standard "Fake News" trope, that is for the intellectually sterile. No, a competent, rational individual would actually make a counter argument.

    "That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former."

    A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, and somehow, along the way, he is part of a vast "Deep State" conspiracy? See, that's why you have to believe in the Nunes Memo, it's better than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you were duped.

    "If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now?"

    There has been mention of it. You haven't been paying close attention.

    "If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also."

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    "If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t."

    Doesn't work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.
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  15. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough).
     
    this is already happening Miro23,

    when they overtly and openly murdered Michael Hastings, and then overtly lied about it and imposed an overt cover-up, it was, IMO, intended to send a message.

    When they assassinated Seth Rich, and didn't even go to the trouble of taking his expensive watch or wallet full of cash, but called it a "robbery", they were sending a message.

    Pat Tillman had three bullet holes in tight formation to the forehead at very close range. He had soured on the Eternal Wars and was about to go public.

    Andrew Breitbart is another whose death is very suspicious, just as Justice Anthony Scalia. (why no autopsy?!)

    Donna Brazile even went public and said she feared for her life, (from the deep state goons)

    So I think the use of violence as intimidation is already upon us. Didn't they shoot Vicky Weaver in the head while holding her newborn in the doorway of her remote cabin, to send a message?

    If you thumb your nose at the Fiend, ((it)) can murder you with absolute impunity.

    what was the lynching of Gadhafi if not sending a message to the world that no one, not even a head of state of a nation can flout the demonic whim of the Fiend

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/12/5f/48/125f4849b2931688363a55d6f1b69416.jpg

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

    what happened at Las Vegas? Don't you think people are wondering how the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history can be so completely covered up from top to bottom?

    it's domination of our fecal government and law enforcement institutions is total.

    And speaking of Vicky Weaver, it was none other than Robert Mueller who presided over that cover up as well.

    Even while U.S. Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past.
     
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/05/robert-mueller-the-old-fixer-is-back-in-town/

    but it was with 9/11 where he really made his bones as the go-to person for a Deep state cover-up.

    from the link:


    By every indication thus far, Robert Mueller was the first choice of Deep State to further the soft coup against the Trump administration. His extensive “insider” resume reflects an intelligence community operative who is willing to protect the system at all costs.

    There is very little in Mueller’s background that reflects any degree of personal honesty or professional integrity. By all appearances, he is a hardened agent of Deep State willing to provide a deceptive veneer of respectability to the totally corrupt institution known as the FBI.
     

    Doublespeak of the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”.

     

    I agree the term Patriot Act is as Orwellian as it gets, but when I see Dept. of Homeland Security, I can't help but feel they're mocking us, because it is all about their 'homeland' security, but the homeland it refers to is an enemy state in the Middle East.

    When Jeh Johnson was the head of "Homeland Security", I doubt there was one second during his tenure that he wasn't obsessed with doing all he could to harm this nations actual homeland, as a committed enemy of heritage America.

    and as someone pointed out, the Bovinus Americanus will often eagerly participate in their own slavery, as they install Google's and Amazon's microphones and cameras in their bedrooms to augment their convenience, so they don't have to get out of bed.

    'Alexa, please turn off the light'

    See, this kind of fake news bad reporting is why you’re not a reliable correspondent.

    Andrew Breitbart’s death was not suspicious, and there’s zero evidence Seth Rich’s murder was an assassination.

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  16. Miro23 says:
    @Rurik

    the system is based on the implicit threat of violence against dissidents, and it has to become explicit (social exclusion is not enough).
     
    this is already happening Miro23,

    when they overtly and openly murdered Michael Hastings, and then overtly lied about it and imposed an overt cover-up, it was, IMO, intended to send a message.

    When they assassinated Seth Rich, and didn't even go to the trouble of taking his expensive watch or wallet full of cash, but called it a "robbery", they were sending a message.

    Pat Tillman had three bullet holes in tight formation to the forehead at very close range. He had soured on the Eternal Wars and was about to go public.

    Andrew Breitbart is another whose death is very suspicious, just as Justice Anthony Scalia. (why no autopsy?!)

    Donna Brazile even went public and said she feared for her life, (from the deep state goons)

    So I think the use of violence as intimidation is already upon us. Didn't they shoot Vicky Weaver in the head while holding her newborn in the doorway of her remote cabin, to send a message?

    If you thumb your nose at the Fiend, ((it)) can murder you with absolute impunity.

    what was the lynching of Gadhafi if not sending a message to the world that no one, not even a head of state of a nation can flout the demonic whim of the Fiend

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/12/5f/48/125f4849b2931688363a55d6f1b69416.jpg

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

    what happened at Las Vegas? Don't you think people are wondering how the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history can be so completely covered up from top to bottom?

    it's domination of our fecal government and law enforcement institutions is total.

    And speaking of Vicky Weaver, it was none other than Robert Mueller who presided over that cover up as well.

    Even while U.S. Attorney in San Francisco, Mueller worked to cover-up the Oklahoma City bombing, Waco, and Ruby Ridge evidence by changing the rules of evidence so that the FBI and prosecution did not have to share as much evidence with defense attorneys in the cases as would have been required in the past.
     
    http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/05/robert-mueller-the-old-fixer-is-back-in-town/

    but it was with 9/11 where he really made his bones as the go-to person for a Deep state cover-up.

    from the link:


    By every indication thus far, Robert Mueller was the first choice of Deep State to further the soft coup against the Trump administration. His extensive “insider” resume reflects an intelligence community operative who is willing to protect the system at all costs.

    There is very little in Mueller’s background that reflects any degree of personal honesty or professional integrity. By all appearances, he is a hardened agent of Deep State willing to provide a deceptive veneer of respectability to the totally corrupt institution known as the FBI.
     

    Doublespeak of the “Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”.

     

    I agree the term Patriot Act is as Orwellian as it gets, but when I see Dept. of Homeland Security, I can't help but feel they're mocking us, because it is all about their 'homeland' security, but the homeland it refers to is an enemy state in the Middle East.

    When Jeh Johnson was the head of "Homeland Security", I doubt there was one second during his tenure that he wasn't obsessed with doing all he could to harm this nations actual homeland, as a committed enemy of heritage America.

    and as someone pointed out, the Bovinus Americanus will often eagerly participate in their own slavery, as they install Google's and Amazon's microphones and cameras in their bedrooms to augment their convenience, so they don't have to get out of bed.

    'Alexa, please turn off the light'

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

    9/11 is at the centre of all this. The plain fact is that the WTC towers didn’t fall due to fire and the government is lying.

    There’s now a mountain of evidence that shows that they are lying, and the only way for US society to stabilize, is to pull every thread of the 9/11 shroud until the whole rotten enterprise is revealed, and the US public can see the plotters in daylight.

    Then they can take a close up look at their enemies and decide what to do with them.

    It’s not going to happen under the current government – so in a fundamental way the present US administration and Congress are illegitimate. They’re unable to fulfill their duty to the American people, so whoever pulls down the “Democratic” facade will be doing the US a favour.

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    There’s now a mountain of evidence that shows that they are lying, and the only way for US society to stabilize, is to pull every thread of the 9/11 shroud until the whole rotten enterprise is revealed, and the US public can see the plotters in daylight.
     
    [Robert] Mueller took over the FBI one week before the 9/11 attacks

    His protestations helped the Bush administration railroad the Patriot Act through Congress, vastly expanding the FBI’s prerogatives to vacuum up Americans’ personal information

    http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371206-robert-muellers-forgotten-surveillance-crime-spree

    whoever pulls down the “Democratic” facade will be doing the US a favour.

     

    not just the US. They'll be doing the whole planet a favor. 9/11 has been the pretext for serial wars of aggression against nations that have done us no harm. It has been used as the pretext for the total police / surveillance state that has eviscerated our constitution, and rendered it a worthless piece of toilet paper, all to the bovine cud-chewing apathy of the dumbed down Americanus Bovinus. Who can't wait for the next Hollywood movie based on cartoon characters to come out on the big screen.

    I was poised to leave this country if Hillary became potus, and still wonder if there's any hope at all.

    These psychopaths are as bad as they get. These Straussian neocons and tribalist Jewish supremacists are bad news, man. Very, very bad news. They're ideologically driven by a Satanic imperative to dominate, and they will never, ever stop. Until they are stopped. And that would require a resolve that the Americanus Bovinus is endemically incapable of, because it necessitates a spiritual mettle that's been systematically bred out of them.

    They'd rather embrace their smart device chains, than suffer the egregious enormity of breaking a societal taboo or politically correct norm. And this has all been very systematically constructed with schools that dumb them down, and universities that create slavish fealty to virtue signaling uber alles.

    It's all so very tragic, because for one thing, these people had it made! They're the most wealthy and powerful demographic in the country. They enjoy assess and perks wildly out of proportion to their fellow Americans. But that is not enough! Then want that boot on everyone's neck and they want it now, God damn it!

    So the world is driven to the brink to sate an insatiable appetite for grandiose megalomaniacal power. And once they have the power, what fun is that unless you use it?

    George Soros doesn't want his son to see the fall of Europa and Western civilization, HE wants to see it! He wants to cackle like Hillary was able to over the murder of Gadhafi, only he want the stake though the heart of Hungary in particular.

    It's this psychotic need of these people to see everyone else suffer, while they laugh at the misery, knowing that they caused it all. Whether it's in Palestine or Libya or Ferguson. Hate all day long, and with a bottomless pit of rancor and bile tossed in for good measure.

    Hell, when I contemplate them and their obsession to hate, all day, every day, I almost feel pity. Almost.
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  17. Corvinus says:
    @KenH
    Your information is wrong as always, Corvinky. The leftist "Russian collusion" narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts. That's why it's quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there's no evidence of the former.

    If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now? If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also.

    If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don't. In fact, it was the NSA that threatened to spill the beans on the origins of the Steele dossier if the FBI and DOJ failed did not come clean to the FISA court.

    “The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts.”

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong. Not with your standard “Fake News” trope, that is for the intellectually sterile. No, a competent, rational individual would actually make a counter argument.

    “That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former.”

    A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, and somehow, along the way, he is part of a vast “Deep State” conspiracy? See, that’s why you have to believe in the Nunes Memo, it’s better than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you were duped.

    “If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now?”

    There has been mention of it. You haven’t been paying close attention.

    “If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also.”

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    “If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t.”

    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

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    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    Obviously, you don't either. As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn't get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar - drag this on and on until they can create some process crime.
    , @KenH

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong.
     
    Pretty hard to do when very few have seen the Shearer memo, and those few who have are only releasing details in drips and drabs too general to be of any utility. The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump's personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele "Russian dossier" but offers no specifics. Since you're a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer's sources were.

    And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he's not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump:
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-other-secret-dossier/article/2011477


    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.
     
    Pot calling the kettle black. You're great at ignoring all evidence that doesn't fit your agenda.

    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.
     
    And neither do you. The FBI is allowed direct access to the NSA's vast collections of international e-mails, texts and phone calls. If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they'd already have it and there'd be no need for Mueller's dog and pony show designed to excite the left wing dullards and never Trumpers.

    Read the Nunes memo. Since you're a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong. Linking to (((Seth Abramson's))) tweetstorm on the subject doesn't prove anything.

    , @anonymous
    More Tom Parsons: “A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, ..”
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  18. Rurik says:

    Andrew Breitbart’s death was not suspicious,

    not according to a lot of people

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138216/Andrew-Breitbart-death-Conspiracy-theorists-foul-coroner-dies-arsenic-poisoning.html

    https://counterpsyops.com/tag/mistery-death/

    http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/andrew-breitbart-killed-conceal-pizzagate/

    should we accept by default the narrative from the PTB in such circumstances?

    ask yourself Robin, if Breitbart was about to expose a Podesta run child rape ring that would implicate Hillary (or God help us, Obama himself!), do you think they’d hesitate to off him?

    and there’s zero evidence Seth Rich’s murder was an assassination.

    well, the assassin didn’t post a video of the murder to social media, that’s true, but the circumstances of the murder and the pathetic lie that it was a robbery, all make one wonder.

    After they killed Tillman, they also spread lies about it, so that’s what their modus operandi seems to be. Execute the potentially inconvenient person, and then simply lie about it. Whose going to be able to get to the truth when you’ve closed every avenue of information. A la Michael Hastings, or the Vegas shooting. Or Ron Brown for that matter or JFK or Waco or 9/11, how many others…

    we know they lie about things as big as USS Liberty, and get away with it all scott free. Even impugning the character and motivations of the survivors of the Liberty for trying to tell the truth.

    I’m not trying to write as the ultimate arbiter of the absolute truth in all things. When I say JFK was assassinated, I know there are those who’ll demand evidence, and I have no confessions, but if a guy has just betrayed Hillary Clinton by sending the emails to Wikileaks that prove she subverted and then colluded with the DNC to cheat Bernie Sanders in the primaries, and then the guy who betrayed her is found murdered in a ally, during a “robbery” where nothing was taken, well then… it doesn’t take an investigative genius to figure out something’s rotten in Denmark. Especially when another DNC operative says she was afraid for her life at the time.

    What we all should know is that they’re not above murder and assassination, when it comes to serving their agenda. Would you dispute that?

    Was not Vicky Weaver shot through the head by a ZUS fecal sniper, as she held her infant in her arms? Is not that assassin still walking free, having also participated in the mass-murder at Waco?

    we know they use drones to assassinate American citizens when they consider it convenient to do so. Because they’ve admitted it. Even assassinating his sixteen year old son for good measure.

    What makes you think a journalist like Michael Hastings or Andrew Breitbart would be off limits to them? Do you also suppose that Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice?

    I remember reading about this “suicide”

    San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore. “Science is our best witness in this case. It is not biased and it doesn’t lie.”

    According to police, Zahau bound her own hands and feet with a thick red rope and hanged herself naked off the second-floor balcony of a guest bedroom. She appeared to have secured one section of the rope to the footboard of the bed before she bound her feet, wrapped the rope around her neck, tied her hands behind her back, walked to the balcony, and propelled herself over the railing.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/rebecca-zahau-death-ruled-a-suicide-shacknai-mysterys-sad-ending

    indeed, I suspect that it is because they so often get away with such things that this mega-wealthy Hollywood insider figured he’d also get away with it.

    “Well, then,” he said to the police, “I guess you’ll have to find out who did it.”

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/murder-mayhem-torture-sunset-strip-tragic-story-budding-director-his-dead-girlfriend-1068725

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    You got nothing.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    It is not lying.
    It is damage control.
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  19. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus
    "The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts."

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong. Not with your standard "Fake News" trope, that is for the intellectually sterile. No, a competent, rational individual would actually make a counter argument.

    "That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former."

    A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, and somehow, along the way, he is part of a vast "Deep State" conspiracy? See, that's why you have to believe in the Nunes Memo, it's better than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you were duped.

    "If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now?"

    There has been mention of it. You haven't been paying close attention.

    "If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also."

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    "If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t."

    Doesn't work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    Obviously, you don’t either. As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn’t get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar – drag this on and on until they can create some process crime.

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    "As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn’t get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar..."

    In reality, Whitewater and the Trump case are wildly dissimilar.
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  20. RobinG says:
    @Rurik

    Andrew Breitbart’s death was not suspicious,
     
    not according to a lot of people

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138216/Andrew-Breitbart-death-Conspiracy-theorists-foul-coroner-dies-arsenic-poisoning.html

    https://counterpsyops.com/tag/mistery-death/

    http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/andrew-breitbart-killed-conceal-pizzagate/

    should we accept by default the narrative from the PTB in such circumstances?

    ask yourself Robin, if Breitbart was about to expose a Podesta run child rape ring that would implicate Hillary (or God help us, Obama himself!), do you think they'd hesitate to off him?


    and there’s zero evidence Seth Rich’s murder was an assassination.
     
    well, the assassin didn't post a video of the murder to social media, that's true, but the circumstances of the murder and the pathetic lie that it was a robbery, all make one wonder.

    After they killed Tillman, they also spread lies about it, so that's what their modus operandi seems to be. Execute the potentially inconvenient person, and then simply lie about it. Whose going to be able to get to the truth when you've closed every avenue of information. A la Michael Hastings, or the Vegas shooting. Or Ron Brown for that matter or JFK or Waco or 9/11, how many others...

    we know they lie about things as big as USS Liberty, and get away with it all scott free. Even impugning the character and motivations of the survivors of the Liberty for trying to tell the truth.

    I'm not trying to write as the ultimate arbiter of the absolute truth in all things. When I say JFK was assassinated, I know there are those who'll demand evidence, and I have no confessions, but if a guy has just betrayed Hillary Clinton by sending the emails to Wikileaks that prove she subverted and then colluded with the DNC to cheat Bernie Sanders in the primaries, and then the guy who betrayed her is found murdered in a ally, during a "robbery" where nothing was taken, well then... it doesn't take an investigative genius to figure out something's rotten in Denmark. Especially when another DNC operative says she was afraid for her life at the time.

    What we all should know is that they're not above murder and assassination, when it comes to serving their agenda. Would you dispute that?

    Was not Vicky Weaver shot through the head by a ZUS fecal sniper, as she held her infant in her arms? Is not that assassin still walking free, having also participated in the mass-murder at Waco?

    we know they use drones to assassinate American citizens when they consider it convenient to do so. Because they've admitted it. Even assassinating his sixteen year old son for good measure.

    What makes you think a journalist like Michael Hastings or Andrew Breitbart would be off limits to them? Do you also suppose that Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice?

    I remember reading about this "suicide"


    San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore. “Science is our best witness in this case. It is not biased and it doesn’t lie.”

    According to police, Zahau bound her own hands and feet with a thick red rope and hanged herself naked off the second-floor balcony of a guest bedroom. She appeared to have secured one section of the rope to the footboard of the bed before she bound her feet, wrapped the rope around her neck, tied her hands behind her back, walked to the balcony, and propelled herself over the railing.
     

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/rebecca-zahau-death-ruled-a-suicide-shacknai-mysterys-sad-ending

    indeed, I suspect that it is because they so often get away with such things that this mega-wealthy Hollywood insider figured he'd also get away with it.


    "Well, then," he said to the police, "I guess you'll have to find out who did it."
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/murder-mayhem-torture-sunset-strip-tragic-story-budding-director-his-dead-girlfriend-1068725

    You got nothing.

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    other than trolling me, what's your point?

    I leave it up to the reader to decide whether or not we should be suspicious of the circumstances of Seth Rich's death.

    Not you.

    I leave to the reader to decide whether or not our elites are murderous and unaccountable psychopaths- not you.

    I leave it to the reader to decide whether or not we should believe them when they tell us what happened in Las Vegas or on 9/11. I have trolls hopping around me all the time, that doesn't mean we should all look the other way because one of them takes a special interest in trolling my comments and pointing out some minutia that doesn't comport to the official version of things.

    So go ahead Robin, and troll away. You've got nothing. ;)

    , @Bill Jones
    You got less
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  21. Rurik says:
    @Miro23

    the lessons of Waco and 9/11 are stark, when it comes to their unilateral willingness to slaughter Americans and use their (((media))) to cover it all up.

     

    9/11 is at the centre of all this. The plain fact is that the WTC towers didn't fall due to fire and the government is lying.

    There's now a mountain of evidence that shows that they are lying, and the only way for US society to stabilize, is to pull every thread of the 9/11 shroud until the whole rotten enterprise is revealed, and the US public can see the plotters in daylight.

    Then they can take a close up look at their enemies and decide what to do with them.

    It's not going to happen under the current government - so in a fundamental way the present US administration and Congress are illegitimate. They're unable to fulfill their duty to the American people, so whoever pulls down the "Democratic" facade will be doing the US a favour.

    There’s now a mountain of evidence that shows that they are lying, and the only way for US society to stabilize, is to pull every thread of the 9/11 shroud until the whole rotten enterprise is revealed, and the US public can see the plotters in daylight.

    [Robert] Mueller took over the FBI one week before the 9/11 attacks

    His protestations helped the Bush administration railroad the Patriot Act through Congress, vastly expanding the FBI’s prerogatives to vacuum up Americans’ personal information

    http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371206-robert-muellers-forgotten-surveillance-crime-spree

    whoever pulls down the “Democratic” facade will be doing the US a favour.

    not just the US. They’ll be doing the whole planet a favor. 9/11 has been the pretext for serial wars of aggression against nations that have done us no harm. It has been used as the pretext for the total police / surveillance state that has eviscerated our constitution, and rendered it a worthless piece of toilet paper, all to the bovine cud-chewing apathy of the dumbed down Americanus Bovinus. Who can’t wait for the next Hollywood movie based on cartoon characters to come out on the big screen.

    I was poised to leave this country if Hillary became potus, and still wonder if there’s any hope at all.

    These psychopaths are as bad as they get. These Straussian neocons and tribalist Jewish supremacists are bad news, man. Very, very bad news. They’re ideologically driven by a Satanic imperative to dominate, and they will never, ever stop. Until they are stopped. And that would require a resolve that the Americanus Bovinus is endemically incapable of, because it necessitates a spiritual mettle that’s been systematically bred out of them.

    They’d rather embrace their smart device chains, than suffer the egregious enormity of breaking a societal taboo or politically correct norm. And this has all been very systematically constructed with schools that dumb them down, and universities that create slavish fealty to virtue signaling uber alles.

    It’s all so very tragic, because for one thing, these people had it made! They’re the most wealthy and powerful demographic in the country. They enjoy assess and perks wildly out of proportion to their fellow Americans. But that is not enough! Then want that boot on everyone’s neck and they want it now, God damn it!

    So the world is driven to the brink to sate an insatiable appetite for grandiose megalomaniacal power. And once they have the power, what fun is that unless you use it?

    George Soros doesn’t want his son to see the fall of Europa and Western civilization, HE wants to see it! He wants to cackle like Hillary was able to over the murder of Gadhafi, only he want the stake though the heart of Hungary in particular.

    It’s this psychotic need of these people to see everyone else suffer, while they laugh at the misery, knowing that they caused it all. Whether it’s in Palestine or Libya or Ferguson. Hate all day long, and with a bottomless pit of rancor and bile tossed in for good measure.

    Hell, when I contemplate them and their obsession to hate, all day, every day, I almost feel pity. Almost.

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  22. Rurik says:
    @RobinG
    You got nothing.

    other than trolling me, what’s your point?

    I leave it up to the reader to decide whether or not we should be suspicious of the circumstances of Seth Rich’s death.

    Not you.

    I leave to the reader to decide whether or not our elites are murderous and unaccountable psychopaths- not you.

    I leave it to the reader to decide whether or not we should believe them when they tell us what happened in Las Vegas or on 9/11. I have trolls hopping around me all the time, that doesn’t mean we should all look the other way because one of them takes a special interest in trolling my comments and pointing out some minutia that doesn’t comport to the official version of things.

    So go ahead Robin, and troll away. You’ve got nothing. ;)

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  23. There need to be many car/small plane accidents.

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  24. KenH says:
    @Corvinus
    "The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts."

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong. Not with your standard "Fake News" trope, that is for the intellectually sterile. No, a competent, rational individual would actually make a counter argument.

    "That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former."

    A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, and somehow, along the way, he is part of a vast "Deep State" conspiracy? See, that's why you have to believe in the Nunes Memo, it's better than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you were duped.

    "If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now?"

    There has been mention of it. You haven't been paying close attention.

    "If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also."

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    "If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t."

    Doesn't work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong.

    Pretty hard to do when very few have seen the Shearer memo, and those few who have are only releasing details in drips and drabs too general to be of any utility. The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump’s personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele “Russian dossier” but offers no specifics. Since you’re a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer’s sources were.

    And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he’s not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-other-secret-dossier/article/2011477

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    Pot calling the kettle black. You’re great at ignoring all evidence that doesn’t fit your agenda.

    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    And neither do you. The FBI is allowed direct access to the NSA’s vast collections of international e-mails, texts and phone calls. If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they’d already have it and there’d be no need for Mueller’s dog and pony show designed to excite the left wing dullards and never Trumpers.

    Read the Nunes memo. Since you’re a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong. Linking to (((Seth Abramson’s))) tweetstorm on the subject doesn’t prove anything.

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    "The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump’s personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele “Russian dossier” but offers no specifics."

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic. Moreover, the Steele Dossier has yet to be discredited. Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes "rogue" by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State? That's what you want to go with? Wow, just wow.

    Remember, the Steele Dossier originally was the brainchild of the GOP in the primary, not Democrats.

    "Since you’re a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer’s sources were."

    I'm not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions. Furthermore, I merely gave you information for you to seriously take into account. As I read further about the Shearer Memo, I then indeed scrutinize it. I find out more about the how and why, rather than buy it "hook, line, and sinker". Would you like to know more, citizen, on how to properly vet sources instead of succumbing to your old standby, Fake News?

    "And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he’s not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump..."

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a "staunch Trump advocate" who is not exactly a "non-partisan and impartial actor". Furthermore, understand the Fake News crowd that you involve yourself in is falling for the genetic fallacy, which is a fallacy of irrelevance involving a conclusion based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. In other words, one merely discredits the source without reasonably taking into account the content of the source.

    "You’re great at ignoring all evidence that doesn’t fit your agenda."

    No, I'm actually looking at Nunes and what he has to say about CIA/FBI policies. It's just that Nunes left out a ton of information and did not offer the requisite context.

    "If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they’d already have it..."

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation. It is then on him to take that evidence and make sense of it. Again, you really have little idea how the criminal justice system works. The NSA collects data and information. Investigators have to sift through it, decipher its meaning, and then figure out its relevance in the context of a criminal case.

    "Read the Nunes memo. Since you’re a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong."

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork. By linking to him, one is able to read his commentary, and then challenge him on specific facts by offering cogent rebuttals. Are you up to the intellectual challenge?
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  25. Mikel says:

    This must have been explained many times while I wasn’t paying attention but, if the meddling of foreigners in American elections is such a grave matter, how come Steele (a foreigner and an ex-spy with Kremlin contacts at that) is not being prosecuted for that same crime?

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  26. Cassandra says:
    @Rurik

    a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?
     
    Beautifully written article Mr. Buchanan

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.
     
    What it always looks like to me, is that the interests of the deep state never coincide with the actual interests of the American people, and that indeed, they are mutually incompatible.

    It seems to me that one of, if not the main motivation of the deep state is to dismantle the American people's Constitutional rights, disarm then, and set about creating an Orwellian dystopia for the purpose of exerting total power over them.

    Who doubts that Hillary's very grotesque existence is one big collective desire of a certain bent of people to wield total power over others? Why else would she publically cackle at the torture/murder of a man she disliked unless she figured her audience agreed that his murder was a good thing, and that once she came to power, that she's really get to the business of putting it to those deplorables but good! Not for anything they ever did, but for what they were - irredeemable.

    In fact, I see the deep state today as an exact incarnation of Orwell's Ingsoc, with it's total surveillance police state, and all the other tyrannical state power abuses over every aspect of our lives. (Even with the ubiquitous televisions with the microphones and cameras monitored by the Ministry of Love)

    we have the Newspeak speech codes on our universities. The places where our young and brightest are supposed to be taught to think, and they're doing the opposite- by creating mindless drones who parrot doubleplus good PC bromides.

    we have the Eternal Wars

    we have the ((inner party))

    we have the two minute hate for the Hitler du jour, (Osama, Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad, now Putin...)

    we have the Ministry of Truth = msm fake news 24/7 lies and more lies

    we have the Ministry of Love = Gitmo

    we have the all pervasive fear that governs our conversations and alters our behavior. How many dare to discuss the inner party at dinner parties or at work? How many dare to flout the speech codes?

    1984 was the most prescient book ever written, with a nod to The Protocols, as runner up. And the deep state today is nothing more than what Orwell was writing about. Men and women who seek power for its own sake. And have a deep-seated imperative to wield that power over others.

    That's what the memo is about. Power-crazed assholes hell bent on putting their boot on our collective faces. And mashing it in.

    who doubts, for one second, that John Brenan

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/John-Brennan-2.jpg

    (or Hillary or John McCain...) would relish the opportunity to put the metaphorical 'deplorable' in this chair?

    https://i2.wp.com/blasphemoustomes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/room-101-rat.jpg

    for some reason, when I look at that photo, (a peek into the id of the deep state personality) I see Ron Paul in that chair, with Rudy Giuliani standing there, but it could just as easily be Edward Snowden in the chair, with Dick Cheney presiding..

    But the reason I'm belaboring this Orwellian theme is because it is quintessentially salient to this subject of the deep state.

    George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest...

    I’ll see your 1984 and raise you Seven Days in May. If you are familiar with it you understand, if you haven’t, watch it. This 1964 classic, (actually a very good film) was made during an election year. Remember the Johnson political ad where a little girl counting Daisy petals turns into a nuclear launch countdown then a mushroom cloud? Rod Serling wrote the screenplay, and it is about a fictional liberal President played by an actual liberal actor, Frederic March, fighting to save he country from a coup by a Conservative General, played by the Burt Lancaster. Hollywood has been working with Liberals in the beltway for over 50 years to convince the American people that the only threat to the Republic is from the reactionary Right. The angelic, altruistic Left is incapable of such things (though history begs to differ). Ironically, it is Trump, a Republican (I dare not call him a conservative) whose lawfully elected Administration is being undermined in a coup d‘ etat. Yet, I suspect that the hatred of Trump is such that a huge slice of the country would support his removal by extralegal, unconstitutional means. This is bigger than Watergate, a conspiracy at the highest levels, and before it’s over, will decide the fate of the nation. I just hope Trump is up to the task.

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    hatred of Trump is such that a huge slice of the country would support his removal by extralegal, unconstitutional means. This is bigger than Watergate, a conspiracy at the highest levels, and before it’s over, will decide the fate of the nation. I just hope Trump is up to the task.
     
    I very much agree.

    I know of liberals who're despondent, and nearly catatonic over Trump. I've heard it said they're psychologically in the fetal position, unable to cope with the ascendancy of Les Deplorables. Or, more precisely, the altering trajectory that doesn't have a demographic dagger being plunged into the necks of 'the irredeemables' and their children as we speak.

    They've been so rapturous over the looming evisceration of heritage America for so long, that having to wait a few more extra years until that glorious day when the 'patriarchy' is dead and in its grave- is existential for them. Of course! they'd subvert our 'democracy' and Constitution and all notions of decency in their butt-hurt quest, since they've never had a shred of integrity to begin with. They don't even know what the word means, except as something to mock.

    For them it's all about winning, and they don't care how. Never did. If taking down Trump meant lying and cheating and breaking the law and subverting our 'democracy', then for them it's a no-brainer.

    Too often we forget that Russia and half of Europe was once turned over to these people. The commie, leftist, Orwellian, power-crazed equalists. And their argument came out of the barrel of a Soviet machine gun. When scores of millions were put to cruel death for the crime of having ability. And there's not a nickel's bit of difference between the Reds of Russia and the progressive left of today. Their hatred for farmers and independent type of people (white, CIS, conservative, salt of the earth, hard working and personally accountable) drives them literally insane. Just as Luis Gutierrez was triggered by an impromptu chant of "USA', and stormed out of the chamber, the left are triggered by conservative America, whom they consider Nazis and homophobes and racists, who, as Oprah castigated, need to "just die".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig9YXnmCcGc

    and so now these people, who don't want to be genocided off the planet and out of the nation their forefathers had hewn out of the wilderness, and proffered to their progeny as the greatest gift ever bequeathed, human freedom...

    are not yet ready to 'just die'.

    and it's driving them apoplectic.

    and as Michael Moore assured us, when we see all these corrupt liars and scoundrels that have been looting the nation and undermining its institutions and forging the chains of slavery out of their literally insane hatred of Les Deplorables...

    look on with horror as Trump repudiates their more egregious outrages..

    it does, indeed... feel good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

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  27. @Rurik

    Andrew Breitbart’s death was not suspicious,
     
    not according to a lot of people

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138216/Andrew-Breitbart-death-Conspiracy-theorists-foul-coroner-dies-arsenic-poisoning.html

    https://counterpsyops.com/tag/mistery-death/

    http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/andrew-breitbart-killed-conceal-pizzagate/

    should we accept by default the narrative from the PTB in such circumstances?

    ask yourself Robin, if Breitbart was about to expose a Podesta run child rape ring that would implicate Hillary (or God help us, Obama himself!), do you think they'd hesitate to off him?


    and there’s zero evidence Seth Rich’s murder was an assassination.
     
    well, the assassin didn't post a video of the murder to social media, that's true, but the circumstances of the murder and the pathetic lie that it was a robbery, all make one wonder.

    After they killed Tillman, they also spread lies about it, so that's what their modus operandi seems to be. Execute the potentially inconvenient person, and then simply lie about it. Whose going to be able to get to the truth when you've closed every avenue of information. A la Michael Hastings, or the Vegas shooting. Or Ron Brown for that matter or JFK or Waco or 9/11, how many others...

    we know they lie about things as big as USS Liberty, and get away with it all scott free. Even impugning the character and motivations of the survivors of the Liberty for trying to tell the truth.

    I'm not trying to write as the ultimate arbiter of the absolute truth in all things. When I say JFK was assassinated, I know there are those who'll demand evidence, and I have no confessions, but if a guy has just betrayed Hillary Clinton by sending the emails to Wikileaks that prove she subverted and then colluded with the DNC to cheat Bernie Sanders in the primaries, and then the guy who betrayed her is found murdered in a ally, during a "robbery" where nothing was taken, well then... it doesn't take an investigative genius to figure out something's rotten in Denmark. Especially when another DNC operative says she was afraid for her life at the time.

    What we all should know is that they're not above murder and assassination, when it comes to serving their agenda. Would you dispute that?

    Was not Vicky Weaver shot through the head by a ZUS fecal sniper, as she held her infant in her arms? Is not that assassin still walking free, having also participated in the mass-murder at Waco?

    we know they use drones to assassinate American citizens when they consider it convenient to do so. Because they've admitted it. Even assassinating his sixteen year old son for good measure.

    What makes you think a journalist like Michael Hastings or Andrew Breitbart would be off limits to them? Do you also suppose that Gary Webb committed suicide by shooting himself in the head twice?

    I remember reading about this "suicide"


    San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore. “Science is our best witness in this case. It is not biased and it doesn’t lie.”

    According to police, Zahau bound her own hands and feet with a thick red rope and hanged herself naked off the second-floor balcony of a guest bedroom. She appeared to have secured one section of the rope to the footboard of the bed before she bound her feet, wrapped the rope around her neck, tied her hands behind her back, walked to the balcony, and propelled herself over the railing.
     

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/rebecca-zahau-death-ruled-a-suicide-shacknai-mysterys-sad-ending

    indeed, I suspect that it is because they so often get away with such things that this mega-wealthy Hollywood insider figured he'd also get away with it.


    "Well, then," he said to the police, "I guess you'll have to find out who did it."
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/murder-mayhem-torture-sunset-strip-tragic-story-budding-director-his-dead-girlfriend-1068725

    It is not lying.
    It is damage control.

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  28. Hillary amazes me in the manner she blithely goes about her business busy making speeches to her adoring crowd. She reminds me of Marie Antoinette the palace charmer who was totally unaware that the lynch mobs were gathering in the streets to stretch her neck oops, severe her neck from her lovely body. Hillary likewise, seems totally unaware that since her days at the Rose Law firm in Little Rock she has accumulated wrongdoings at an accelerated pace playing fast and loose with national security always lying, scheming and on the prowl for the fast buck. In the immortal words of Reverend Jeremiah Wright the chickens will come home to roost in her case, and the shouts of “Lock her up” soon become true.

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  29. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong.
     
    Pretty hard to do when very few have seen the Shearer memo, and those few who have are only releasing details in drips and drabs too general to be of any utility. The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump's personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele "Russian dossier" but offers no specifics. Since you're a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer's sources were.

    And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he's not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump:
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-other-secret-dossier/article/2011477


    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.
     
    Pot calling the kettle black. You're great at ignoring all evidence that doesn't fit your agenda.

    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.
     
    And neither do you. The FBI is allowed direct access to the NSA's vast collections of international e-mails, texts and phone calls. If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they'd already have it and there'd be no need for Mueller's dog and pony show designed to excite the left wing dullards and never Trumpers.

    Read the Nunes memo. Since you're a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong. Linking to (((Seth Abramson's))) tweetstorm on the subject doesn't prove anything.

    “The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump’s personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele “Russian dossier” but offers no specifics.”

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic. Moreover, the Steele Dossier has yet to be discredited. Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes “rogue” by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State? That’s what you want to go with? Wow, just wow.

    Remember, the Steele Dossier originally was the brainchild of the GOP in the primary, not Democrats.

    “Since you’re a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer’s sources were.”

    I’m not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions. Furthermore, I merely gave you information for you to seriously take into account. As I read further about the Shearer Memo, I then indeed scrutinize it. I find out more about the how and why, rather than buy it “hook, line, and sinker”. Would you like to know more, citizen, on how to properly vet sources instead of succumbing to your old standby, Fake News?

    “And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he’s not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump…”

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a “staunch Trump advocate” who is not exactly a “non-partisan and impartial actor”. Furthermore, understand the Fake News crowd that you involve yourself in is falling for the genetic fallacy, which is a fallacy of irrelevance involving a conclusion based solely on someone’s or something’s history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. In other words, one merely discredits the source without reasonably taking into account the content of the source.

    “You’re great at ignoring all evidence that doesn’t fit your agenda.”

    No, I’m actually looking at Nunes and what he has to say about CIA/FBI policies. It’s just that Nunes left out a ton of information and did not offer the requisite context.

    “If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they’d already have it…”

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation. It is then on him to take that evidence and make sense of it. Again, you really have little idea how the criminal justice system works. The NSA collects data and information. Investigators have to sift through it, decipher its meaning, and then figure out its relevance in the context of a criminal case.

    “Read the Nunes memo. Since you’re a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong.”

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork. By linking to him, one is able to read his commentary, and then challenge him on specific facts by offering cogent rebuttals. Are you up to the intellectual challenge?

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    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic.
     
    He's puking out the same unverified allegations as the Steele dossier.

    A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes “rogue” by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State?
     
    Steele was simply telling Fusion and the DNC what they wanted to hear to collect a hefty paycheck. When you go on a witch hunt you're going to find witches. However, Steele is on record as loathing Donald Trump so again, he's not exactly a dispassionate actor in this whole sordid mess.

    I’m not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions.
     
    And very fact and reality averse decisions at that, but bravo. It must be a coincidence that your political positions fall on the left wing of the political spectrum.

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a “staunch Trump advocate” who is not exactly a “non-partisan and impartial actor”.
     
    Believe what you want and construct your own reality. I've watched the left wing coverage and none addressed any of the memo's content. Instead preferring to attack the most visible messenger (Nunes) as well as the president. If you can't attack the message then attack the messenger.

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation.
     
    Sure, Corvy. If Mueller has the electronic evidence of collusion then there's been no need to conduct an investigation and waste taxpayer's money.

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork.
     
    As I said earlier, Abramson is basically repeating the same unverified allegations and claiming it's new and groundbreaking.

    Are you up to the intellectual challenge?
     
    Always, but first Seth will have to display some intellect and originality on the matter.
    , @anonymous
    “Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work,..”

    You’re overdoing it with this Tom Parsons stuff.
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  30. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA
    Doesn’t work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    Obviously, you don't either. As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn't get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar - drag this on and on until they can create some process crime.

    “As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn’t get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar…”

    In reality, Whitewater and the Trump case are wildly dissimilar.

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    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency.
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  31. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus
    "As someone who was against the Clinton witch hunt that created a perjury trap when they couldn’t get him on real charges related to Whitewater, I can see perfectly well that this is similar..."

    In reality, Whitewater and the Trump case are wildly dissimilar.

    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency.

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    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency."

    And that is Fake News. Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially "bought and paid for" by elites to take out a president?
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  32. Rurik says:
    @Cassandra
    I’ll see your 1984 and raise you Seven Days in May. If you are familiar with it you understand, if you haven’t, watch it. This 1964 classic, (actually a very good film) was made during an election year. Remember the Johnson political ad where a little girl counting Daisy petals turns into a nuclear launch countdown then a mushroom cloud? Rod Serling wrote the screenplay, and it is about a fictional liberal President played by an actual liberal actor, Frederic March, fighting to save he country from a coup by a Conservative General, played by the Burt Lancaster. Hollywood has been working with Liberals in the beltway for over 50 years to convince the American people that the only threat to the Republic is from the reactionary Right. The angelic, altruistic Left is incapable of such things (though history begs to differ). Ironically, it is Trump, a Republican (I dare not call him a conservative) whose lawfully elected Administration is being undermined in a coup d‘ etat. Yet, I suspect that the hatred of Trump is such that a huge slice of the country would support his removal by extralegal, unconstitutional means. This is bigger than Watergate, a conspiracy at the highest levels, and before it’s over, will decide the fate of the nation. I just hope Trump is up to the task.
    https://youtu.be/s23A5Fc0cY4

    hatred of Trump is such that a huge slice of the country would support his removal by extralegal, unconstitutional means. This is bigger than Watergate, a conspiracy at the highest levels, and before it’s over, will decide the fate of the nation. I just hope Trump is up to the task.

    I very much agree.

    I know of liberals who’re despondent, and nearly catatonic over Trump. I’ve heard it said they’re psychologically in the fetal position, unable to cope with the ascendancy of Les Deplorables. Or, more precisely, the altering trajectory that doesn’t have a demographic dagger being plunged into the necks of ‘the irredeemables’ and their children as we speak.

    They’ve been so rapturous over the looming evisceration of heritage America for so long, that having to wait a few more extra years until that glorious day when the ‘patriarchy’ is dead and in its grave- is existential for them. Of course! they’d subvert our ‘democracy’ and Constitution and all notions of decency in their butt-hurt quest, since they’ve never had a shred of integrity to begin with. They don’t even know what the word means, except as something to mock.

    For them it’s all about winning, and they don’t care how. Never did. If taking down Trump meant lying and cheating and breaking the law and subverting our ‘democracy’, then for them it’s a no-brainer.

    Too often we forget that Russia and half of Europe was once turned over to these people. The commie, leftist, Orwellian, power-crazed equalists. And their argument came out of the barrel of a Soviet machine gun. When scores of millions were put to cruel death for the crime of having ability. And there’s not a nickel’s bit of difference between the Reds of Russia and the progressive left of today. Their hatred for farmers and independent type of people (white, CIS, conservative, salt of the earth, hard working and personally accountable) drives them literally insane. Just as Luis Gutierrez was triggered by an impromptu chant of “USA’, and stormed out of the chamber, the left are triggered by conservative America, whom they consider Nazis and homophobes and racists, who, as Oprah castigated, need to “just die”.

    and so now these people, who don’t want to be genocided off the planet and out of the nation their forefathers had hewn out of the wilderness, and proffered to their progeny as the greatest gift ever bequeathed, human freedom…

    are not yet ready to ‘just die’.

    and it’s driving them apoplectic.

    and as Michael Moore assured us, when we see all these corrupt liars and scoundrels that have been looting the nation and undermining its institutions and forging the chains of slavery out of their literally insane hatred of Les Deplorables…

    look on with horror as Trump repudiates their more egregious outrages..

    it does, indeed… feel good.

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  33. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA
    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency.

    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency.”

    And that is Fake News. Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially “bought and paid for” by elites to take out a president?

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    I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?

    However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position.
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  34. Rurik says:

    Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially “bought and paid for” by elites to take out a president?

    duh

    are you really that stupid?

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    "duh, are you really that stupid?"

    In reality, you ought to be asking that question of yourself on this matter.
    , @KenH

    are you really that stupid?
     
    LMAO. I think we know the answer to that question.
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  35. @RobinG
    You got nothing.

    You got less

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  36. @Rurik

    a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?
     
    Beautifully written article Mr. Buchanan

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people almost always coincide with their own.
     
    What it always looks like to me, is that the interests of the deep state never coincide with the actual interests of the American people, and that indeed, they are mutually incompatible.

    It seems to me that one of, if not the main motivation of the deep state is to dismantle the American people's Constitutional rights, disarm then, and set about creating an Orwellian dystopia for the purpose of exerting total power over them.

    Who doubts that Hillary's very grotesque existence is one big collective desire of a certain bent of people to wield total power over others? Why else would she publically cackle at the torture/murder of a man she disliked unless she figured her audience agreed that his murder was a good thing, and that once she came to power, that she's really get to the business of putting it to those deplorables but good! Not for anything they ever did, but for what they were - irredeemable.

    In fact, I see the deep state today as an exact incarnation of Orwell's Ingsoc, with it's total surveillance police state, and all the other tyrannical state power abuses over every aspect of our lives. (Even with the ubiquitous televisions with the microphones and cameras monitored by the Ministry of Love)

    we have the Newspeak speech codes on our universities. The places where our young and brightest are supposed to be taught to think, and they're doing the opposite- by creating mindless drones who parrot doubleplus good PC bromides.

    we have the Eternal Wars

    we have the ((inner party))

    we have the two minute hate for the Hitler du jour, (Osama, Saddam, Gadhafi, Assad, now Putin...)

    we have the Ministry of Truth = msm fake news 24/7 lies and more lies

    we have the Ministry of Love = Gitmo

    we have the all pervasive fear that governs our conversations and alters our behavior. How many dare to discuss the inner party at dinner parties or at work? How many dare to flout the speech codes?

    1984 was the most prescient book ever written, with a nod to The Protocols, as runner up. And the deep state today is nothing more than what Orwell was writing about. Men and women who seek power for its own sake. And have a deep-seated imperative to wield that power over others.

    That's what the memo is about. Power-crazed assholes hell bent on putting their boot on our collective faces. And mashing it in.

    who doubts, for one second, that John Brenan

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/John-Brennan-2.jpg

    (or Hillary or John McCain...) would relish the opportunity to put the metaphorical 'deplorable' in this chair?

    https://i2.wp.com/blasphemoustomes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/room-101-rat.jpg

    for some reason, when I look at that photo, (a peek into the id of the deep state personality) I see Ron Paul in that chair, with Rudy Giuliani standing there, but it could just as easily be Edward Snowden in the chair, with Dick Cheney presiding..

    But the reason I'm belaboring this Orwellian theme is because it is quintessentially salient to this subject of the deep state.

    George really laid it all out for us, with the motivations and methods and thoughtcrimes and doublethink and all the rest...

    Rurik -

    Very well done.

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  37. @Z-man
    I'm not following this story much because it’s boring but I will always be a fan of Nunes by the enemies he keeps. Ana Navarro, the ‘Latina’ battle-axe who is a ‘Never Trump’ ‘Republitard’ was on TV and made sure to let everybody know that Nunes was not an Hispanic. He’s of Portugese decent, racial politics. LOL Devin Nunes is ok in my book. Hopefully he's not an Israeli firster.

    I prefer Nunes to Nunez.

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  38. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus
    They are exactly the same. A witch hunt looking for a crime. Looking for crimes unrelated to the office of the Presidency."

    And that is Fake News. Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially "bought and paid for" by elites to take out a president?

    I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?

    However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position.

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    "I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?"

    The investigations by Starr and Mueller are completely different.

    "However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position."

    If you are going to make the case that Mueller is in the pockets of the Deep State, best have specific evidence directly linking his actions to the cause of globalists. That will take a tremendous amount of digging on your part. But, as I suspect, you will continue to be smitten with the conspiracy narrative. I suppose that is your only play here...
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  39. @Rurik
    yes, Huxley deserves his due

    only it seems there just isn't enough soma to lobotomize the sheople fast enough, and so they require some good ol' fashioned police state total surveillance to go with the spiritual depravity and cultural sewage.

    plus, I rather suspect that people like Hillary, (and the CFR, PNAC, CIA, ADL, SPLC, DEA, FBI, AIPAC, ETC...) really prefer the brute domination of Orwell vs. Huxley's willfully catatonic zombies.

    It's just so much more fun for them. Do you think Hillary would have cackled like a giddy hyena if Gadhafi had overdosed on orgies and partying?

    What fun is that?!

    If Putin were to do a Pope Francis and turn gay overnight, and forswear Christianity and demand more Hollywood type of perversion in Russia, and declare Russia a gay-friendly nation, and open the borders and demand that Assad has to go', how would that be any fun for McCain and the neocons? It's be the biggest anticlimax the world has ever known. The whole fun of sanctioning and threatening Putin's Russia is because it's run by an unapologetic white, Christian nationalist, who they want to bludgeon into submission. That's what makes them feel all potent and virile and good about themselves!

    What fun is it if your quarry kneels down and assumes the position? What fun would it be to intimidate and demonize Les Deplorables if they all decided to be gay, Xanexed, SJW snowflakes overnight? How would Soros or Adelson be able to gloat if Europe and N. America simply did a Captain Sweden

    http://www.occidentaldissent.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Captain-Sweden.png

    on them, and embraced their own genocide? No, no, no. That simply would not due!

    There has to be some fun to it, and so you don't want them all to embrace their submission to the police state, since then what's the point?

    They have to want to be free, and want to persevere, if enslaving them and replacing them is going to be any fun at all. You see?

    And that's why Orwell's methods will win out over Huxley's. Because what fun is wielding power, unless your victims writhe under your lash?

    http://conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/soros-hillary.jpg

    Rurik -

    Excellent.

    However, I would suggest that some in the cabal have understood, all along, that in order for their dreams and plans to materialize, there would have to be a Long March through the institutions and while they were conquering the institutions, the masses would have to be given their breads and circuses.

    A fellow traveler of our cause once said to me, words to the effect that, “they’ll let you go on your football trips, and they’ll let the drunks enjoy their Budweiser, and of course they’ll let people go to the movies and out to dinner.”

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    thx Mike

    they’ll let people go to the movies and out to dinner.”
     
    for now
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  40. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA
    I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?

    However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position.

    “I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?”

    The investigations by Starr and Mueller are completely different.

    “However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position.”

    If you are going to make the case that Mueller is in the pockets of the Deep State, best have specific evidence directly linking his actions to the cause of globalists. That will take a tremendous amount of digging on your part. But, as I suspect, you will continue to be smitten with the conspiracy narrative. I suppose that is your only play here…

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    Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer.
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  41. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially “bought and paid for” by elites to take out a president?
     
    duh

    are you really that stupid?

    “duh, are you really that stupid?”

    In reality, you ought to be asking that question of yourself on this matter.

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  42. KenH says:
    @Corvinus
    "The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump’s personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele “Russian dossier” but offers no specifics."

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic. Moreover, the Steele Dossier has yet to be discredited. Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes "rogue" by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State? That's what you want to go with? Wow, just wow.

    Remember, the Steele Dossier originally was the brainchild of the GOP in the primary, not Democrats.

    "Since you’re a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer’s sources were."

    I'm not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions. Furthermore, I merely gave you information for you to seriously take into account. As I read further about the Shearer Memo, I then indeed scrutinize it. I find out more about the how and why, rather than buy it "hook, line, and sinker". Would you like to know more, citizen, on how to properly vet sources instead of succumbing to your old standby, Fake News?

    "And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he’s not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump..."

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a "staunch Trump advocate" who is not exactly a "non-partisan and impartial actor". Furthermore, understand the Fake News crowd that you involve yourself in is falling for the genetic fallacy, which is a fallacy of irrelevance involving a conclusion based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. In other words, one merely discredits the source without reasonably taking into account the content of the source.

    "You’re great at ignoring all evidence that doesn’t fit your agenda."

    No, I'm actually looking at Nunes and what he has to say about CIA/FBI policies. It's just that Nunes left out a ton of information and did not offer the requisite context.

    "If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they’d already have it..."

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation. It is then on him to take that evidence and make sense of it. Again, you really have little idea how the criminal justice system works. The NSA collects data and information. Investigators have to sift through it, decipher its meaning, and then figure out its relevance in the context of a criminal case.

    "Read the Nunes memo. Since you’re a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong."

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork. By linking to him, one is able to read his commentary, and then challenge him on specific facts by offering cogent rebuttals. Are you up to the intellectual challenge?

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic.

    He’s puking out the same unverified allegations as the Steele dossier.

    A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes “rogue” by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State?

    Steele was simply telling Fusion and the DNC what they wanted to hear to collect a hefty paycheck. When you go on a witch hunt you’re going to find witches. However, Steele is on record as loathing Donald Trump so again, he’s not exactly a dispassionate actor in this whole sordid mess.

    I’m not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions.

    And very fact and reality averse decisions at that, but bravo. It must be a coincidence that your political positions fall on the left wing of the political spectrum.

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a “staunch Trump advocate” who is not exactly a “non-partisan and impartial actor”.

    Believe what you want and construct your own reality. I’ve watched the left wing coverage and none addressed any of the memo’s content. Instead preferring to attack the most visible messenger (Nunes) as well as the president. If you can’t attack the message then attack the messenger.

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation.

    Sure, Corvy. If Mueller has the electronic evidence of collusion then there’s been no need to conduct an investigation and waste taxpayer’s money.

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork.

    As I said earlier, Abramson is basically repeating the same unverified allegations and claiming it’s new and groundbreaking.

    Are you up to the intellectual challenge?

    Always, but first Seth will have to display some intellect and originality on the matter.

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    "He’s puking out the same unverified allegations as the Steele dossier."

    In reality, he is offering a rebuttal that step by step addresses the Nunes Memo. Besides, I thought Nunes himself was a "swamp creature" who works for the "Deep State". So, somehow, we are suppose to trust him?

    "Steele was simply telling Fusion and the DNC what they wanted to hear to collect a hefty paycheck."

    No, that was speculation on the part of Nunes. Not established fact.

    "It must be a coincidence that your political positions fall on the left wing of the political spectrum."

    Actually, my political positions run the gamut of the political spectrum.

    "Believe what you want and construct your own reality."

    Which, I must admit, you do well.

    "I’ve watched the left wing coverage and none addressed any of the memo’s content."

    In reality, several "lefties", and even pundits on the right, have offered significant insight into the memo's content.

    "Instead preferring to attack the most visible messenger (Nunes) as well as the president. If you can’t attack the message then attack the messenger."

    You do realize the hypocrisy on your part, right?

    "If Mueller has the electronic evidence of collusion then there’s been no need to conduct an investigation and waste taxpayer’s money."

    You know deep down it doesn't work that way in our legal system. Complicated cases require time. Mueller is doing his due diligence. What are you afraid of?

    "Always, but first Seth will have to display some intellect and originality on the matter."

    In reality, he is, but you are too proud and too driven by confirmation bias to see it.
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  43. KenH says:
    @Rurik

    Do you truly think that Mueller and his legal team have nothing better to do than go on fishing expeditions? That they are essentially “bought and paid for” by elites to take out a president?
     
    duh

    are you really that stupid?

    are you really that stupid?

    LMAO. I think we know the answer to that question.

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  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "The best your hero (((Seth Abramson))) can do is say the memo is related to Trump’s personal conduct and business dealings and that it corroborates the original but now discredited Steele “Russian dossier” but offers no specifics."

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic. Moreover, the Steele Dossier has yet to be discredited. Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes "rogue" by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State? That's what you want to go with? Wow, just wow.

    Remember, the Steele Dossier originally was the brainchild of the GOP in the primary, not Democrats.

    "Since you’re a lefty who hates Trump you just swallow everything whole without scrutinizing any of the information or asking who Shearer’s sources were."

    I'm not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions. Furthermore, I merely gave you information for you to seriously take into account. As I read further about the Shearer Memo, I then indeed scrutinize it. I find out more about the how and why, rather than buy it "hook, line, and sinker". Would you like to know more, citizen, on how to properly vet sources instead of succumbing to your old standby, Fake News?

    "And to top things off, Cody Shearer is a staunch Clinton loyalist and man of ill repute, so he’s not exactly a non-partisan and impartial actor in this whole thing and has motive to help Hillary Clinton and libel Trump..."

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a "staunch Trump advocate" who is not exactly a "non-partisan and impartial actor". Furthermore, understand the Fake News crowd that you involve yourself in is falling for the genetic fallacy, which is a fallacy of irrelevance involving a conclusion based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. In other words, one merely discredits the source without reasonably taking into account the content of the source.

    "You’re great at ignoring all evidence that doesn’t fit your agenda."

    No, I'm actually looking at Nunes and what he has to say about CIA/FBI policies. It's just that Nunes left out a ton of information and did not offer the requisite context.

    "If there was any electronic evidence of Russian collusion they’d already have it..."

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation. It is then on him to take that evidence and make sense of it. Again, you really have little idea how the criminal justice system works. The NSA collects data and information. Investigators have to sift through it, decipher its meaning, and then figure out its relevance in the context of a criminal case.

    "Read the Nunes memo. Since you’re a self styled genius and legal analyst then cite the errors of fact in it and where you think the investigators got it wrong."

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork. By linking to him, one is able to read his commentary, and then challenge him on specific facts by offering cogent rebuttals. Are you up to the intellectual challenge?

    “Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work,..”

    You’re overdoing it with this Tom Parsons stuff.

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    "You’re overdoing it with this Tom Parsons stuff."

    Actually, I'm holding people to the same level of accountability as they hold everyone else. And they fail to meet even the most basic of standards. Other than surprising.
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  45. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "The leftist “Russian collusion” narrative is collapsing and (((Seth))) and other lefties are desperate to keep it alive with spin and fake facts."

    If you are going to make that charge, you are required to show exactly how and why Seth is wrong. Not with your standard "Fake News" trope, that is for the intellectually sterile. No, a competent, rational individual would actually make a counter argument.

    "That’s why it’s quietly changed from claims of collusion to obstruction of justice since there’s no evidence of the former."

    A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, and somehow, along the way, he is part of a vast "Deep State" conspiracy? See, that's why you have to believe in the Nunes Memo, it's better than admitting that maybe, just maybe, you were duped.

    "If there was other corroborating evidence then why absolutely no mention of it until now?"

    There has been mention of it. You haven't been paying close attention.

    "If the (((lamestream media))) knew and sat on it then they are colluding with the Democrat party on how and what to report which we already know they do. And it proves that the (((media)) is hyper partisan and not independent but anyone with half a brain already knows that also."

    You are seeing only what you want to see as a hyper-partisan. Ironic.

    "If there was really any evidence of Trump collusion the NSA would have it, but they don’t."

    Doesn't work that way in a criminal investigation. Man, you really have little clue how our legal system works.

    More Tom Parsons: “A highly respected and competent Republican is leading an investigation, ..”

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  46. @Corvinus
    "I wonder why when I replace Mueller with Starr in your post I seem to get the same conclusion?"

    The investigations by Starr and Mueller are completely different.

    "However, I will give you this, Mueller is a POS protecting the Deep State against somebody he deems not worthy of a seat at the table. Starr was a sanctimonious POS thinking he was leading a crusade to keep an uncouth lowbrow sleazeball out of an exalted position."

    If you are going to make the case that Mueller is in the pockets of the Deep State, best have specific evidence directly linking his actions to the cause of globalists. That will take a tremendous amount of digging on your part. But, as I suspect, you will continue to be smitten with the conspiracy narrative. I suppose that is your only play here...

    Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer.

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    "Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer."

    That's not evidence. You have to show definitively that he has marching orders from the Deep State. Not speculation. Not opinion. Hard core facts.

    Are you up to the challenge, citizen journalist?
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  47. Corvinus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer.

    “Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer.”

    That’s not evidence. You have to show definitively that he has marching orders from the Deep State. Not speculation. Not opinion. Hard core facts.

    Are you up to the challenge, citizen journalist?

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    Maybe you are right. But in reality I am only looking at workload.
    Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month.
    He should have gotten through the evidence in two month.
    He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly.
    But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?
    If you are so wise investigate journalist you should compare your successive activities to Mueller's
    activities. If you are a successful investigate Journalist., you inevitably must conclude two things.
    You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities.
    Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island.
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  48. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous
    “Think about it. A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work,..”

    You’re overdoing it with this Tom Parsons stuff.

    “You’re overdoing it with this Tom Parsons stuff.”

    Actually, I’m holding people to the same level of accountability as they hold everyone else. And they fail to meet even the most basic of standards. Other than surprising.

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  49. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    Abramson is not my hero, he is simply breaking down into manageable pieces a highly complicated topic.
     
    He's puking out the same unverified allegations as the Steele dossier.

    A career spy, highly regarded among the intelligence community for his meticulous work, somehow goes “rogue” by hatching a plan to destroy the political reputation of a candidate, as demanded by the Deep State?
     
    Steele was simply telling Fusion and the DNC what they wanted to hear to collect a hefty paycheck. When you go on a witch hunt you're going to find witches. However, Steele is on record as loathing Donald Trump so again, he's not exactly a dispassionate actor in this whole sordid mess.

    I’m not a lefty, just an educated American man who makes his own decisions.
     
    And very fact and reality averse decisions at that, but bravo. It must be a coincidence that your political positions fall on the left wing of the political spectrum.

    If we employ your metric, then Nunes also is characterized as a “staunch Trump advocate” who is not exactly a “non-partisan and impartial actor”.
     
    Believe what you want and construct your own reality. I've watched the left wing coverage and none addressed any of the memo's content. Instead preferring to attack the most visible messenger (Nunes) as well as the president. If you can't attack the message then attack the messenger.

    They may have it and have given it to Mueller as evidence for his investigation.
     
    Sure, Corvy. If Mueller has the electronic evidence of collusion then there's been no need to conduct an investigation and waste taxpayer's money.

    I have read it. Fortunately, Abramson and others have done the legwork.
     
    As I said earlier, Abramson is basically repeating the same unverified allegations and claiming it's new and groundbreaking.

    Are you up to the intellectual challenge?
     
    Always, but first Seth will have to display some intellect and originality on the matter.

    “He’s puking out the same unverified allegations as the Steele dossier.”

    In reality, he is offering a rebuttal that step by step addresses the Nunes Memo. Besides, I thought Nunes himself was a “swamp creature” who works for the “Deep State”. So, somehow, we are suppose to trust him?

    “Steele was simply telling Fusion and the DNC what they wanted to hear to collect a hefty paycheck.”

    No, that was speculation on the part of Nunes. Not established fact.

    “It must be a coincidence that your political positions fall on the left wing of the political spectrum.”

    Actually, my political positions run the gamut of the political spectrum.

    “Believe what you want and construct your own reality.”

    Which, I must admit, you do well.

    “I’ve watched the left wing coverage and none addressed any of the memo’s content.”

    In reality, several “lefties”, and even pundits on the right, have offered significant insight into the memo’s content.

    “Instead preferring to attack the most visible messenger (Nunes) as well as the president. If you can’t attack the message then attack the messenger.”

    You do realize the hypocrisy on your part, right?

    “If Mueller has the electronic evidence of collusion then there’s been no need to conduct an investigation and waste taxpayer’s money.”

    You know deep down it doesn’t work that way in our legal system. Complicated cases require time. Mueller is doing his due diligence. What are you afraid of?

    “Always, but first Seth will have to display some intellect and originality on the matter.”

    In reality, he is, but you are too proud and too driven by confirmation bias to see it.

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  50. KenH says:

    In reality, he is offering a rebuttal that step by step addresses the Nunes Memo.

    Perhaps in your imagination which is quite vivid.

    Besides, I thought Nunes himself was a “swamp creature” who works for the “Deep State”. So, somehow, we are suppose to trust him?

    Considering the swamp has been savaging Nunes from the start since he won’t go along with the “Russian collusion” narrative because there’s no evidence to support it I’d say he’s proven that he’s not part of the swamp. You obviously don’t like Nunes because he won’t undermine Trump but he has a much cleaner reputation than your Christopher Steele and Cody Shearer.

    No, that was speculation on the part of Nunes. Not established fact.

    Even swamp creature James Comey said the allegations in the Steele dossier were “salacious and unverified” but the great Corvinius somehow knows they are unvarnished fact because some left wing jew on twitter said so.

    Actually, my political positions run the gamut of the political spectrum.

    You only troll people expressing right of center opinion so that’s not believable.

    If anyone colluded with Russia it was your side by contracting British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to obtain dirt on Trump from Russian FSB agents, the objective of which was to to discredit Trump in the eyes of the electorate and deliver the election to Hillary Clinton. Had the ultra left wing side of the swamp been successful in this endeavor you would be whistling an entirely different tune.

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    "Perhaps in your imagination which is quite vivid."

    You are projecting again.

    "Considering the swamp has been savaging Nunes from the start since he won’t go along with the “Russian collusion” narrative because..."

    He was an integral member of the Trump transition team. It is other than surprising that he is taking his side.

    "You obviously don’t like Nunes because he won’t undermine Trump but he has a much cleaner reputation than your Christopher Steele and Cody Shearer."

    Is he not a career D.C. politician? By that logical extension, Nunes is part of the Swamp. And it has nothing t0 do with "me not liking Nunes", it has everything to do with your hypocrisy--Nunes is a partisan here. And yet, you give him a free pass.

    "Even swamp creature James Comey said the allegations in the Steele dossier were “salacious and unverified”..."

    No.

    "but the great Corvinius somehow knows they are unvarnished fact because some left wing jew on twitter said so."

    You have to vet the source and step by step counter his assertions. That is how intellectual discourse works. Are you up to the challenge?

    "If anyone colluded with Russia it was your side by contracting British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to obtain dirt on Trump from Russian FSB agents, the objective of which was to to discredit Trump in the eyes of the electorate and deliver the election to Hillary Clinton."

    You are peddling Fake News here. Your confirmation bias is strong here.
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  51. Eagle Eye says:
    @Ludwig Watzal
    There must be many heads rolling in Washington. D. C. The FBI, DOJ, and the Intel community such as the CIA, the NSA are rotten institutions. I'm flabbergasted that Jeff Sessions hasn't fired Rosenstein long ago. All these thugs from the Obama administration have to brought to justice, including Obama himself and especially Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

    https://ahtribune.com/us/maga/2126-trump-deep-state.html

    One of the key weaknesses may be the prevalence of a narrow range of Ivy League graduates in key top tier functions at the FBI, CIA etc.

    This creates a chummy esprit de corps while simultaneously diluting any residual sense of obligation to the wider interests of the country and its people.

    The social background of key personnel also bears scrutiny.

    Observers of Britain’s problem with the “Cambridge Five” and other toff traitors have noted that those taught from childhood to regard themselves as G-d’s gift to the country and to despise the “lower classes” are much more likely to turn traitor, particularly when they suffer an inevitable career setback or need more money for their sexual predilections.

    By contrast, France tended to recruit many of its secret service officers from a broader background through state schools and universities, thus inculcating a greater sense of affinity with the state as a whole. This seems to have resulted in a lower incidence of treason.

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  52. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike
    Rurik -

    Excellent.

    However, I would suggest that some in the cabal have understood, all along, that in order for their dreams and plans to materialize, there would have to be a Long March through the institutions and while they were conquering the institutions, the masses would have to be given their breads and circuses.

    A fellow traveler of our cause once said to me, words to the effect that, "they'll let you go on your football trips, and they'll let the drunks enjoy their Budweiser, and of course they'll let people go to the movies and out to dinner."

    thx Mike

    they’ll let people go to the movies and out to dinner.”

    for now

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  53. @Corvinus
    "Here is the evidence: he accepted the job offer."

    That's not evidence. You have to show definitively that he has marching orders from the Deep State. Not speculation. Not opinion. Hard core facts.

    Are you up to the challenge, citizen journalist?

    Maybe you are right. But in reality I am only looking at workload.
    Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month.
    He should have gotten through the evidence in two month.
    He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly.
    But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?
    If you are so wise investigate journalist you should compare your successive activities to Mueller’s
    activities. If you are a successful investigate Journalist., you inevitably must conclude two things.
    You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities.
    Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island.

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    "Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month."

    In a slipshod manner, assuredly. He, however, is meticulous.

    "He should have gotten through the evidence in two month."

    Complicated cases like the one he is working on does not follow exact timelines. There are leads to follow and evidence to sift through.

    "He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly."

    It's more than "cheating on taxes".

    "But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?"

    How do you know for certain they have not found collusion? Prosecutors nor do defense attorneys
    tip their hand.

    "You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities. Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island."

    Actually, one can conclude that Mueller is leaving no stone unturned, is making sure he has a rock solid case, and is doing his due diligence to ensure fairness and impartiality.

    Since when do cases like these require a specific time table given its complexity?
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  54. Corvinus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Maybe you are right. But in reality I am only looking at workload.
    Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month.
    He should have gotten through the evidence in two month.
    He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly.
    But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?
    If you are so wise investigate journalist you should compare your successive activities to Mueller's
    activities. If you are a successful investigate Journalist., you inevitably must conclude two things.
    You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities.
    Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island.

    “Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month.”

    In a slipshod manner, assuredly. He, however, is meticulous.

    “He should have gotten through the evidence in two month.”

    Complicated cases like the one he is working on does not follow exact timelines. There are leads to follow and evidence to sift through.

    “He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly.”

    It’s more than “cheating on taxes”.

    “But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?”

    How do you know for certain they have not found collusion? Prosecutors nor do defense attorneys
    tip their hand.

    “You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities. Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island.”

    Actually, one can conclude that Mueller is leaving no stone unturned, is making sure he has a rock solid case, and is doing his due diligence to ensure fairness and impartiality.

    Since when do cases like these require a specific time table given its complexity?

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    So according to your expertise when will Mueller be finished?
    I cannot wait so Trump will be removed.
    I am sorry for Trump, and will be happy to see someone else sort out the mess the US is in.
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  55. Corvinus says:
    @KenH

    In reality, he is offering a rebuttal that step by step addresses the Nunes Memo.
     
    Perhaps in your imagination which is quite vivid.

    Besides, I thought Nunes himself was a “swamp creature” who works for the “Deep State”. So, somehow, we are suppose to trust him?
     
    Considering the swamp has been savaging Nunes from the start since he won't go along with the "Russian collusion" narrative because there's no evidence to support it I'd say he's proven that he's not part of the swamp. You obviously don't like Nunes because he won't undermine Trump but he has a much cleaner reputation than your Christopher Steele and Cody Shearer.

    No, that was speculation on the part of Nunes. Not established fact.
     
    Even swamp creature James Comey said the allegations in the Steele dossier were "salacious and unverified" but the great Corvinius somehow knows they are unvarnished fact because some left wing jew on twitter said so.

    Actually, my political positions run the gamut of the political spectrum.
     
    You only troll people expressing right of center opinion so that's not believable.

    If anyone colluded with Russia it was your side by contracting British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to obtain dirt on Trump from Russian FSB agents, the objective of which was to to discredit Trump in the eyes of the electorate and deliver the election to Hillary Clinton. Had the ultra left wing side of the swamp been successful in this endeavor you would be whistling an entirely different tune.

    “Perhaps in your imagination which is quite vivid.”

    You are projecting again.

    “Considering the swamp has been savaging Nunes from the start since he won’t go along with the “Russian collusion” narrative because…”

    He was an integral member of the Trump transition team. It is other than surprising that he is taking his side.

    “You obviously don’t like Nunes because he won’t undermine Trump but he has a much cleaner reputation than your Christopher Steele and Cody Shearer.”

    Is he not a career D.C. politician? By that logical extension, Nunes is part of the Swamp. And it has nothing t0 do with “me not liking Nunes”, it has everything to do with your hypocrisy–Nunes is a partisan here. And yet, you give him a free pass.

    “Even swamp creature James Comey said the allegations in the Steele dossier were “salacious and unverified”…”

    No.

    “but the great Corvinius somehow knows they are unvarnished fact because some left wing jew on twitter said so.”

    You have to vet the source and step by step counter his assertions. That is how intellectual discourse works. Are you up to the challenge?

    “If anyone colluded with Russia it was your side by contracting British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to obtain dirt on Trump from Russian FSB agents, the objective of which was to to discredit Trump in the eyes of the electorate and deliver the election to Hillary Clinton.”

    You are peddling Fake News here. Your confirmation bias is strong here.

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  56. @Corvinus
    "Whatever Mueller did in one year I would be able to do in one month."

    In a slipshod manner, assuredly. He, however, is meticulous.

    "He should have gotten through the evidence in two month."

    Complicated cases like the one he is working on does not follow exact timelines. There are leads to follow and evidence to sift through.

    "He did find some cheating on taxes decades ego, Now Miller is coercing some people to cooperate on collusion. In my opinion Trump people did act carelessly."

    It's more than "cheating on taxes".

    "But if investigation already lasted a year, Why Muller and the teem still did not find any collusion?"

    How do you know for certain they have not found collusion? Prosecutors nor do defense attorneys
    tip their hand.

    "You must conclude that Mueller is incompetent in his investigating activities. Or there in reality there is no collusion, and Muller is only prolonging his activities to draw a salary until he saves enough money that he can buy his own island."

    Actually, one can conclude that Mueller is leaving no stone unturned, is making sure he has a rock solid case, and is doing his due diligence to ensure fairness and impartiality.

    Since when do cases like these require a specific time table given its complexity?

    So according to your expertise when will Mueller be finished?
    I cannot wait so Trump will be removed.
    I am sorry for Trump, and will be happy to see someone else sort out the mess the US is in.

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