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“(T)here is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so,” said Hamlet, who thereby raised some crucial questions:

Is moral truth subjective? Does it change with changing times and changing attitudes? Or is there a higher law, a permanent law, God’s law, immutable and eternal, to which man’s law should conform?

Are, for example, the Ten Commandments of the Old Testament, Christian teaching and natural law unchangeable and applicable to all men at all times? Or can some of the 10 be consigned to the dumpster of antiquated moral prohibitions?

This question has been brought straight into the presidential primaries by Pete Buttigieg, breakout star of the spring of 2019.

“Mayor Pete” is proudly gay and living happily with his husband.

He says God made him the way he is, and he is living the life God intended for him. Raising the same-sex marriage issue himself, the mayor defiantly taunted Mike Pence:

“Yes, Mr. Vice President … it has moved me closer to God. … That’s the thing I wish the Mike Pences of the world would understand: That if you have a problem with who I am, your quarrel is not with me. …Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.”

Buttigieg declared his candidacy Sunday, and his bid ensures that America’s deepening moral divide will be front and center in 2020.

Our culture wars will not be ending anytime soon.

This weekend, General Social Survey data revealed that Americans who profess to have “no religion,” 23.1%, now exceed Catholics, our largest religion with 23%, and Evangelicals at 22.5%. And the “nones” have grown by 266% since 1991.

As for the mainstream Protestant congregations, together, they are not half as numerous as those Americans who profess no religion.

Added to our racial and ethnic diversity, America is growing more diverse religiously, de-Christianizing with all deliberate speed.

We are becoming another people, and a post-Christian America appears to be our destiny well before the end of this century.

Consider what has changed already.

In the 19th century, blasphemy was a crime.

In the Roaring ’20s the “vices” of booze and gambling were outlawed. Now they are major sources of state revenue.

Divorce was a rarity. Now half of all marriages are dissolved.

After the sexual revolution of the ’60s, births out of wedlock rocketed to where 40 percent of all children are born without a father in the home, as are half of Hispanics and 70 percent of all black children.

Pornography, which used to bring a prison term, today dominates cable TV. Marijuana, once a social scourge, is the hot new product. And Sen. Kamala Harris wants prostitution legalized.

In the lifetime of many Americans, homosexuality and abortion were still scandalous crimes. They are now cherished constitutional rights.

Yet, Mayor Pete’s assertion — that God made him gay, and God intended that he live his life this way, and that this life is moral and good — is another milestone on the road to a new America.

For what Buttigieg is saying is that either God changes his moral law to conform to the changing behavior of mankind or that, for 2,000 years, Christian preaching and practice toward homosexuals has been bigoted, injurious and morally indefensible.

If Pete is right, since the time of Christ, Christians have ostracized and persecuted gays simply for being and behaving as God intended.

And if that is true, what is the defense of Christianity?

Already, among a good slice of America, especially the young, the West is guilty of centuries of racism, imperialism, colonialism, slavery, sexism, ethnic cleansing, religious persecution and cultural genocide against indigenous peoples.

Now, according to Mayor Pete’s logic, the West is also guilty of centuries of hateful homophobia toward people living as God made them and intended them to live.

What does this portend for 2020?

ORDER IT NOW

While Democrats defend Mayor Pete’s same-sex marriage as moral, they will also insist that women’s “reproductive rights” remain sacrosanct, and that unborn infants, 60 million of whom have been killed in the womb since Roe v. Wade in 1973, still have no rights at all, not even the right to life.

How does a nation so divided ever come together again?

How can a nation, many of whose elites are so ashamed of its history and heritage and deplorable other half — as “racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic … and bigoted” — credibly claim to be a shining city on a hill or a light unto the nations?

America is today as powerful, prosperous and free as any nation the world has ever seen. And we have used that wealth and freedom to create a culture and a society many of our own people and much of the world now see as dissolute and decadent.

Post-Christian America, in many ways, is beginning to mirror what we were once taught that the pre-Christian Roman Empire looked like.

Indeed, if the mayor’s lifestyle is moral, Christianity got it wrong for 20 centuries.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Realist says:

    Is moral truth subjective? Does it change with changing times and changing attitudes? Or is there a higher law, a permanent law, God’s law, immutable and eternal, to which man’s law should conform?

    Religion should not be brought into law.

  2. Realist says:

    Yet, Mayor Pete’s assertion — that God made him gay, and God intended that he live his life this way, and that this life is moral and good — is another milestone on the road to a new America.

    For what Buttigieg is saying is that either God changes his moral law to conform to the changing behavior of mankind or that, for 2,000 years, Christian preaching and practice toward homosexuals has been bigoted, injurious and morally indefensible.

    If Pete is right, since the time of Christ, Christians have ostracized and persecuted gays simply for being and behaving as God intended.

    And if that is true, what is the defense of Christianity?

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    The golden rule is the only defense of Christianity I can think of. Christianity has taught many really stupid things. As all religions, Christianity is a tool to control people.

  3. Yet, Mayor Pete’s assertion — that God made him gay, and God intended that he live his life this way, and that this life is moral and good — is another milestone on the road to a new America.

    More like a footnote than a milestone. Christian voters (including both Buttgig and Pence) have bigger fish to fry. Like how to avoid being driven back into the Catacombs. Trump is the obvious defender of religious liberty.

    In the primaries Buttgig will get points for being a pervert. But for the left he is a White Christian. Two strikes against him before he comes to the plate. In the general election the policy issues will be health care and immigration. The ideological issues will be whiteness and socialism. Whether God created Pence or Buttgig or neither or both will not be a deciding factor.

  4. Buchanan, Buttigieg and Forbidden Love

    By Michael Hoffman
    https://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2019/04/buchanan-buttigieg-and-forbidden-love.html

    In a red meat column this week by Patrick J. Buchanan, “Mayor Pete and the Crackup of Christianity,” he asserts the “unchangeable law” of “Christian teaching” against the spirit of our age.

    “What is there in this marvelous lament for lost verities that Hoffman could possibly criticize!”

    That’s the robotic reaction. Our buttons get pressed and we react according to the script.

    The big hole in Pat’s thinking is his positing his good old days picture of the past when abortion and sodomy were illegal.

    But those were not the good old days and they hadn’t been for centuries. What he means to say is that they were good old days in comparison to 2019; relatively speaking.

    The crater that Buchanan has fallen through is his failure to address first things, rather than symptoms of the dystopian eschatology that follows from the corruption of original law.

    The law of God to which Mr. Buchanan half-way appeals with half-measures that ensure more of the same decay and decline, is a law which admits of no exceptions, no escape clauses and no situation ethics.

    Way back yonder in 1515, when the Italian banking mafia grabbed the Catholic Church by the throat in the pontificate of Medici Pope Leo X, and employed the alibi of Monte di pietá (charity toward the poor), to launch a Medici shylock operation, the immemorial Catholic dogmatic prohibition against taking one penny above the principal as rent for a loan, gradually was diminished and derogated to the point, in 1830, when any loan shark could be admitted to Communion in the Catholic Church, notwithstanding the usurer’s “antiquated” mortal sin of usury.

    If Patrick J. Buchanan will turn to the First Book of Timothy, at chapter six, verse ten, he will see that according to God’s word, the love of money is the root of all evil. The permission of the Church for the renting of money (accompanied by Machiavellian feints, double-talk and contradictions), marks the original weaponization of that forbidden love.

    The permission of the United States government for “Mayor Pete” Buttigieg’s forbidden love is a derivative of the Church’s permission for the situation ethics that made it possible for money-renters to receive Catholic Communion in good standing. Evil proceeds from the nullification of God’s law, a nullification which is accomplished on the basis that “The-times-they-are-a-changin’.” Dante Alighieri, driven into exile from the medieval mafia fiefdom of Florence, made the connection between these two forms of forbidden love in his Inferno. Dante wrote that usury is as the sin of Sodom. 800 years later and the “Great Books” aficionados on the Right are still clueless.

    Pat can moan his requiem for the good old days, but in fact those days were rotten with the stench of money love, and the supremacy of the hedge fund operators and the legion of usury parasites who up to this day continue to place the people Jesus bought for a price on that Cross on Calvary, into debt slavery.

    So-called “Conservatives” are incapable of getting to the actual root of anything, whether it is the Talmudic nature of the subversion of the West, or the Renaissance papal situation ethics which, long before there was a U.S. Supreme Court or a New York media, turned the loan sharks loose on the people of God. That sodomites were eventually also turned loose is a shock only to the “Conservatives.”

    Until we have the grace and vision to penetrate clouds of misdirection, we will continue to inhabit the sad, stoop-shouldered ranks of history’s losers, consoling ourselves with the knowledge that wordsmiths such as Mr. Buchanan have crafted for us an eloquent obituary.

    Copyright ©2019 by RevisionistHistory.org

    Michael Hoffman is the author of The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome, and Usury in Christendom: The Mortal Sin that Was and Now is Not.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Rurik
  5. KenH says:

    Our culture wars will not be ending anytime soon.

    And Trump, the cucks and the Republican party won’t be fighting them anytime soon either. Besides, that gets in they way of MIGA and the Chamber of Commerce agenda for America.

    Since the 1980’s virtually everyone on the establishment right has been telling us that trickle down economics will turn black, hispanic, immigrant, queer, trans, etc. into a conservative Republican, but it sure hasn’t turned out that way.

  6. KenH says:
    @Realist

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    I’m not so sure about that. While there may be a genetic component at work in some cases you’ll find that many homosexuals were molested as children which I believe tends to rewire their brains regarding sexual norms and sexuality.

    The late columnist Charley Reese addressed this subject in one of his columns and remarked that based on research if one’s first sexual experience was homosexual in nature then that tends to be ones’s preference for life. Not in all cases, of course, but in many of them. And you’ll notice that homosexuals try to recruit young kids for this very reason.

    • Disagree: Realist, lavoisier
  7. @Realist

    Your overstatement is unrealistic.

    • Replies: @Realist
  8. Gee, Pat, I wish it was still 1954, too.

    And I’m not joking, either.

    Sh boom hey lawdy ding dong …

  9. Todd says: • Website
    @Realist

    OR: Ken H, Rejector of the Presence, since our great God and Father has called to you and Pete and all of us to serve Him with gladness and not to cut ourselves off from Him. The consequences are devastating and becoming more so every day.

  10. Mr. XYZ says:
    @Realist

    Greg Cochran argues that, in the case of male homosexuality, some kind of pathogen is the more likely culprit due to the fact that male homosexuality has a low heritability.

    • Replies: @Realist
  11. nsa says:

    “….America (i.e.the American Empire) is beginning to mirror the Roman Empire……”
    Suetonius’s Twelve Caesars chronicles the doings of the Roman elites. Notice the similarity in how the elites always settle scores amongst themselves in their own way with little input from the masses of asses. At least the Romans never claimed the murder of Julius Caesar, Germanicus, Caligula, Nero, Claudius was the result of a lone assassin.
    Petronius’s Satyricon chronicles the doings of the Roman underclass, describing the adventures of a retired gladiator and his boyfriend as they wander through the sordid byways of the Roman Empire and its overly violent and sexualized popular culture.
    Nothing much changes. For example, red lipstick worn by Roman women indicated they specialize in fellatio……and it still does in this sad year of 2019. Lipstick wearers will always go down on you almost immediately with few exceptions.

  12. Anything goes when the French people care so little about saving their incomparable Notre Dame cathédral, which apparently was in jeopardy for awhile due to environmental exposure. Pieces of the cathedral were literally falling off, with the archbishop of Paris scouring for donors to finance those renovations in the USA—home to more practicing Catholics than the largely secular France.

    There is a Smithsonian Magazine article about this on the Internet, but for whatever reason, I cannot paste in the link.

    Trump, the billionaire builder, should empathize enough with the French to send a personal check.

    The US Congress should allocate money for the repair fund for Notre Dame cathedral.

    The French funded the American Revolution.

    Lafayette had faith in America before it was America.

    The French gave us the Statue of Liberty.

    France’s Yellow Vests are right about a lot of things, but not about Macron’s efforts to renovate other irreplaceable French monuments.

    Once those historical structures are gone, you can’t really get them back. The best comment about this is on ZHedge, where someone pointed out that “future generations will now never be able to see the majestic structure forged by hand—made by Frenchmen without the aid of PCs full of RAM, CAD or other tools of modern engineering and architecture.”

    The Yellow Vest artisans of 865 years ago also did their part to create that noble structure, taking 200 years to perfect it, and now, it is destroyed. When people fail to preserve their country’s finest structures, it is a sign of rotting from within. It is not morally okay to let the finest structures in Western civilization decay.

    • Agree: Simply Simon
    • Replies: @Anon
  13. Giuseppe says:
    @Realist

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    Sexual reproduction propagates the species.
    Genetic homosexuality propagates the specious.
    Which is true.

    • Replies: @Realist
  14. Pat Buchanan: “Are, for example, the Ten Commandments of the Old Testament, Christian teaching and natural law unchangeable and applicable to all men at all times?”

    The mistake here is to assume there is one single “true” teaching or law, when in reality the history of Christianity is piled up with heaps of corpses resulting from internal religious wars over which interpretation is “true” teaching. Christians have always been willing to slaughter each other over even the most trivial theological distinctions. It would be more accurate to speak of “Christianities” instead of just saying “Christianity”, to avoid the implication that there actually is such a unitary thing. There is no one true doctrine, no single Christianity, only various interpretations of a myth. Christians’ willingness to make changes to their interpretation varies with the times, as one faction drives out another. As the winners claim victory and the majority of the faithful, the losers grouse about infiltration, heresy, and conspiracy, and pine for the return of “real” Christianity, by which they mean only their own interpretation, of course.

  15. Joe Rizoli says: • Website

    America it seems is looking to the Biblical “thorn bush” to rule over them. ( Judges 9:14 )
    Having people running for office that represent the morally opposite of Statesmen and living lives opposite characters of impeccable credentials is not saying much for the voters themselves who put these decadents in office.. America it seems is not at a stage or repentance anymore but at a stage for Judgement…….

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  16. Realist says:
    @Giuseppe

    From your reply I take it you think homosexuality is a life choice. I sure as hell don’t remember making a choice….gee do I want to be a hetrosexual or a homosexual. There never was any doubt that I was hetrosexual. There is no choice you just are. Maybe you had to make a choice…..I didn’t. And I don’t know anybody that had to make a choice.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    , @ken
    , @Giuseppe
  17. Realist says:
    @Mr. XYZ

    Greg Cochran argues that, in the case of male homosexuality, some kind of pathogen is the more likely culprit due to the fact that male homosexuality has a low heritability.

    All homosexuality has low heritability…..they don’t have reproductive sex. Many genetic traits have low heritability for numerous reasons.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  18. Realist says:
    @SeekerofthePresence

    Your overstatement is unrealistic

    Says you.

  19. Miro23 says:

    The problem is US Democracy.

    In a real (local) Democracy the public are involved and vote on things issue by issue.

    For example, in the UK, the government is setting up to make obligatory the teaching of homosexuality and trans to 6 year olds. If the UK had a solid local Democracy (which it doesn’t), then a school’s parents would have the unquestioned right to meet and decide the issue.

    If they vote for the teaching then it’s OK. If they don’t then it’s excluded.

    Local Democracy is hard work but it produces a much more united and happy society.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Johann
  20. @Realist

    There is no proof whatsoever that being homosexual is genetic.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Realist
  21. Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice.

    This is what I love about the cultural-marxist ‘left’: being a homosexual is genetic, while being male or female is merely a choice or a ‘social construct’! Can you spot the logical inconstitency, boys and girls (or whatever the heck you are!)?

    • Replies: @Realist
  22. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:

    The Jewish Rabbi Jesus was a proud pederast, and openly snuggled his boy-lover into his bosom, as recorded in John 13:23-25.

  23. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Hoffman

    1 Tim. 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil.
    -yet-
    Ecclesiastes 10:19 Money answereth all things.

    What’s not to love about that?
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  24. Anon[394] • Disclaimer says:
    @Endgame Napoleon

    Only if the 1793 Goddess of Liberty replaces the statue of Mary on the altar.

    For a time the Goddess of Liberty replaced the Virgin Mary on several altars.[25]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre-Dame_de_Paris#Modern_history

  25. TTSSYF says:
    @Realist

    It has not been proven that homosexuality is genetic. But assuming it is, then it is a genetic disorder as it does not work to propagate the species.

    Some things should be tolerated but not applauded and encouraged. I see no reason to applaud sodomy. Forget about the religious aspects. Sodomy is physically unhealthy and increases the likelihood and spread of disease. Nature, and society, can tolerate it in small enough numbers, but it’s not what nature intends. A mentally healthy society would not be applauding it.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Realist
  26. Bliss says:

    This weekend, General Social Survey data revealed that Americans who profess to have “no religion,” 23.1%, now exceed Catholics, our largest religion with 23%, and Evangelicals at 22.5%.

    That does not give an accurate picture of true beliefs. Is a Catholic who believes in reincarnation really a Catholic? Obviously not. The last poll by Pew found 36% of Catholics expected to be reincarnated, rather than resurrected. So true Catholics are less than 15% of the population. And true Evangelicals are 18.2% of the population, since 19% of nominal Evangelicals believe in reincarnation.

    Atheists and Agnostics are at ~27%. And 33% of all Americans believe in reincarnation. That means the majority (60%) of Americans do not believe in resurrection. So less than 40% of Americans are Christians (subtracting Muslims and any others believing in resurrection).

    https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/trends/Religion%20&%20Spirituality?measure=postlife

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon
  27. TTSSYF says:
    @Realist

    So, since the percentage of homosexuals in our society remains relatively constant, how can it be due to a genetic trait? If genetic, it should occur less and less frequently and eventually disappear, as appears to be the case with Down syndrome as more and more women opt for abortion when informed that the fetus has Down syndrome. Yet homosexuality is not disappearing. For this reason, many of us believe it is not genetic but a choice…or, perhaps more accurately, a sexual indulgence. There have always been sexual fetishes, and homosexuality is no exception.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @dfordoom
  28. @Realist

    So, sexual preference is categorical, not continuous? What you wrote disallows bisexuality, pansexuality, and a whole host of other things.

    Can we take it you think people are either male or female, or does categorical nature apply only to sexuality, not sex or gender?

    • Replies: @Realist
  29. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    I guess a pedophile will say god made him that way.

    A glutton will say god made him that way.

    But then, a ‘homophobe’ can also say god made him that way.

    • Agree: mark green
  30. I and other commenters have been raggin’ on good old Pat Buchanan under a number of his recent columns. It’s been usually because he’s either writing like we are in the political world of the 1980’s with its still civility and reason and acting like we’re just gonna have to get the right votes together via wonky politics to fix this stuff – OR – it’s Pat’s low-level neocon-ness, even though he purports to want America to end its imperial ways.

    Under this column, however, I can only say: Right on, Pat! Though I am no Catholic and don’t know all the details of the doctrines, Mr. Buchanan’s conservativism really shines in this one. I can find nothing to argue about.

  31. @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I think you’re reading too much into this, Dr. In the very sentence you excerpted, the author mentioned natural law too. He just means, is the 1st commandment or natural law that says one should not murder another something is only true based on culture or “the times”? Are the no rules like this that stand always and everywhere? Current “liberals” would say “no”.

  32. ken says:
    @Realist

    The choice comes with acting on your impulse. The question is whether acting on that impulse is a good thing.

    • Replies: @Realist
  33. ken says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    You are confusing faith and morals. Until the 20th century virtually all Christians shared the same morality.

    • Replies: @Realist
  34. Giuseppe says:
    @Realist

    Everybody has sins. Are gossiping, anger, larceny and adultery genetic?

    • Replies: @Realist
  35. Pete Buttplug=THERMONUCLEAR WAR WITH CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN RUSSIA….

    Legal Homo FILTH is incapatible with Conservative Christianity…..There is no other Christianity but Conservative Christianity….

    Pete Buttplug and his Buttplug buddy should hold a gay pride rally in Muslim Dearborn Michigan…

    • Replies: @Realist
  36. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Belief in astrology and “spiritual energy” of physical things like holy places and relics of saints was universal in the most history of Christianity. All New Agers? This worthless poll presumes Christianity = Protestantism, as usual.

    • Replies: @Bliss
  37. Marriage Christian Russia 2019:Young Christian Russian Man and Young Christian Russian Woman exchange Wedding Vows in a Russian Orthodox Christian Church….they go on to start a large Christian Russian Family..

    Marriage in anti-Christian America 2019:Two homosexual males exchanging their wedding bowels in an Epischopal Church…..go on to adopt two Polish male infants….They go on to rape the Polish male infants….with the approval of Hillary Clinton…

  38. lavoisier says: • Website
    @KenH

    Biological determinism is trumping the blank slate over and over again with empirical scientific research.

    I agree with Pat that the decline of faith has led to a resurgence in all sorts of problems in Western societies.

    What are the eternal truths?

    But while we are credulous creatures, we also are, at some level, respectful of reality.

    Revelation is no match for science.

    Whether scientific knowledge can lead to a higher morality and provide a sense of purpose to our lives that has previously been provided by religion is very much an open question.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    , @KenH
  39. @TTSSYF

    As American society continues its descent into moral decay, what will be next? As homosexuals have already won, the next frontier is full Trans Rights. It’s already believed by a minority that it is perfectly fine for a parent to determine that their young child (normally a boy) was born a transsexual, so he must be given puberty blockers and other hormones to aid in his transition, even though it has been shown that most children grow out of it. This Brave New World we are entering will not end well.

    What percentage of democrats, I wonder, will vote for Mayor Pete in the primaries precisely BECAUSE he is homosexual? I doubt if he gets the nomination this time, but he’s only 37 or so, so he has plenty of time.

  40. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Christianity began as an anti-imperialist religion.

    It betrayed itself the moment it made a pact with Roman military might to support the empire.

  41. Homosexuals=PEDOPHILE+PEDERAST PROCLIVITIES…

    PROOF:induction proof….True for N=1=Rock Star Pete Townshend….N+1=The Democratic Party=THE HOMOSEXUAL FILTH AND DISEASE PARTY mod(COMET PIZZA)

  42. @Anon

    Thank God it did….or Europeans would either be speaking Arabic or Turkish in 2019…

    Fuck you…and (((NOAM CHOMSKY)))….

    • Replies: @Anon
  43. Anonymous[250] • Disclaimer says:

    Christianity has been fighting battles to “get it right” or further in the direction of the Christ its entire existence. It seems every major denomination has its faults. Catholics made Mary something close to a deity, Protestants after the disastrous witch hunts of the 16th century more or less ignore malevolent spirits, Fundamentalists insist on the Bible being literal and yet removed books that did not agree with their way of thinking (well Luther did), Platinate Anabaptists refuse to hear the Christ’s comments about the necessary of the sword, Methodists seem to have forgotten the intrinsic value of the Eucharist, Calvinists seem to forget the possibility of redemption for those are lost, etc. But perhaps these major flaws are inevitable, man is inherently imperfect and as such we miss the mark, repeatedly. But while they all argue about interpretation of the Christ’s command, they are attempting to follow it………in so far as they can see past their own faults. Perhaps this is a feature and not a defect, if there were a perfect church folks would worship it instead of G-D. All are lacking….

    The issue with Homosexuality is it is hard not to see it is condemned in scripture and a 2000-year apostolic tradition, as it is called an abomination throughout. The Christ never says it is O.K. and says to his followers if they have a question of doctrine, to go back to Moses and the prophets for an answer. Moses is very clear on the matter in the Torah. There is no escaping it. To then decide as the Episcopalians have that it is O.K. is blasphemy against known truth, if you believe in such things.

    As to the gay chap who dens to lecture Christian folks on the true morality, well he is an example of the reason homosexuality is seen as an abomination: for some reason the worship of the bung hole becomes the central sacrament of these fellows. Consider the Episcopalians: The Christ took the 10 commandments down to 2 commandments, the Episcopalians down to one: “Thou shall love sodomy with all thy heart”. As wrong headed as folks are on other sins, it seems no other sin is willing to make itself the high alter by which all other spiritual merits are decided.

    The gay mayor is an example of that, he is set on his sin being made clean in the eyes of the world or else throw away everything good in the 2000 year history of Christianity. His will be done, not that to the Creator. Might that well not be the “Blasphemy of the Spirit” the Christ speaks of?

    • Replies: @ken
  44. Republic says:

    E Michael Jones has recently written a book on Buttigieg, also has made several you tube videos on the mayor.

  45. Pete Buttplug=GLOBAL HOMO AMERICA WITH BUTTPLUGS….

  46. Pete Buttplug will confront that dastardly homophobe Vladimir Putin in a pink sequin gown and a buttplug up his ass…..This according to the fat homosexual filthy swine with a black Muslim boyfriend named buttplug…….Karl Rove……

  47. @lavoisier

    What is the empirical research on hereditary homosexuality? John Maynard Keynes was exclusively homosexual for a number of years, then fell passionately in love with and married an attractive Russian ballerina, Lydia Lopokova. They were devastated when she miscarried but remained, by all accounts, very happily married.

    I’ve actually been surprised the past few years observing several effeminate men who ended up marrying and having a kid. I think hereditary homosexuality remains very much an unsettled question. I think if research is ever allowed in this area we’ll find that homosexuality is congenital (i.e., in utero) in most cases and behavioral in others.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  48. You fucking retard Poles

    You want Poland to be occupied by the Global Homo US Military

    Expect Polish Male Infants to be sold off to

    Mayor Pete Buttplug and his buttplug husband

    for global homo PEDERAST RAPE!!!

    • Replies: @Realist
  49. @Republic

    I’m not even a Christian, but as a man of the Dissident Right, I’ve become a huge fan of Michael Jones thru his many video appearances. He’s recently been given a big boost in two conversations with Owen Benjamin, whose daily videos are quite informative and are sprinkled with his comedic humor. Dissident Right vloggers have become extremely popular on YouTube. It’s no wonder that they are under constant threat of censorship from the limp-wristed Left.

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Republic
    , @anon
  50. Crackup ? I think in this case the proper technical term is bugger up.

  51. Anon[312] • Disclaimer says:

    Spare me the “God made me this way“ nonsense, Nancy. The astounding success of Joseph Nicolosi’s Reparative therapy, by which many homosexuals have been restored to normative/heterosexual identity/behavior destroys your and the maniacal left’s subversive arguments. Multiple states have attempted to outlaw Nicolosi‘s therapy for this very reason.

    Beyond that, the push for gay marriage and increased acceptance of homosexuality is a Jewish operation. Just ask Joe Biden or Amy Dean of Tikkun magazine.

    Go push your deviancy elsewhere.

  52. lavoisier says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Credible reply.

    I think biology is the more important factor, but I would not rule out the role of environmental influences in generating this sexual inclination.

    Regardless of cause, I think there is no immorality in one’s sexual preferences, so long as they stay between consenting adults.

  53. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says: • Website
    @War for Blair Mountain

    If there had been no Christianity, there would have been no Islam as Muhammad took inspiration from Christianity, a universalized form of Abrahamic Faith.

  54. I tire of reading almost non-stop of sexual deviants.

  55. Gordo says:

    In the 19th century, blasphemy was a crime.

    Don’t worry Pat, it’s coming back, any dissing of Islam or questioning of the central tenet of Jewish theology; the holocaust, can already land you in prison in many ‘democracies’ and will come soon the good old US of A.

  56. Republic says:
    @follyofwar

    It’s no wonder that they are under constant threat of censorship from the limp-wristed Left

    .

    His Wikipedia entry was deleted last week.

  57. Asagirian says: • Website

    Destruction of Churches in the West follows the Desecration of the Holy Land by Modern Jews.

    Though I’m not religious, I do respect spiritual traditions and histories.

    And if Jews have a claim to the Holy Land, it is because of the sacred texts and narratives.

    But what did Jews do to the Holy Land? They turned it into Sodom and Gomorrah. (Japanese turned their nation into Sodomo and Gamera.)

    When the Christian West supports degenerate satanic modern Jews to turn the Holy Land into Sodom and Gomorrah, what do you think will happen to the West, especially if it’s controlled by Jews.

    A people who degrade the very heart of spirituality, the Holy Land, will go around spreading filth of Homomania all over the world.

    In the end, it would have been better if Muslims held the Holy Land. I guarantee there would have been no ‘gay pride’ parades there.

    • Replies: @Thinker
  58. Republic says:
    @follyofwar

    E Michael Jones on Mayor Pete

    also

  59. ken says:
    @Anonymous

    Not even close on your idea of Mary.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  60. ken says:
    @Anon

    I’d say no Judaism no Islam.

  61. @Anon

    In the meantime….I prefer the Christian Roman Empire to Suleman The Magnificent…

  62. Realist says:
    @Giuseppe

    Everybody has sins.

    Sin is a religious judgement.

    Are gossiping, anger, larceny and adultery genetic?

    Of course. Why else would some do it and others not???

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  63. Realist says:
    @TomSchmidt

    So, sexual preference is categorical, not continuous? What you wrote disallows bisexuality, pansexuality, and a whole host of other things

    .

    Sexual preferences are genetic.

    Can we take it you think people are either male or female, or does categorical nature apply only to sexuality, not sex or gender?

    With very few exceptions (which are genetic) people are either male or female.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  64. Realist says:
    @ken

    The choice comes with acting on your impulse. The question is whether acting on that impulse is a good thing.

    Impulse control is genetic. Do you have impulses that conflict with your sexuality???

    • Replies: @Thinker
    , @ken
  65. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    So, since the percentage of homosexuals in our society remains relatively constant, how can it be due to a genetic trait?

    The number of males born remains relatively constant.

    If genetic, it should occur less and less frequently and eventually disappear, as appears to be the case with Down syndrome as more and more women opt for abortion when informed that the fetus has Down syndrome.

    The is no prenatal test for homosexualality. You need to read a book on logic….it’s not your strong point.

    For this reason, many of us believe it is not genetic but a choice…or, perhaps more accurately, a sexual indulgence.

    Why would someone choose a life style that would cause them to be ostracized??? Yes, the many people you are referring to believe the earth is 6000 years old. In your life did you have to choose which sexuality you wanted to pursue?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  66. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    It has not been proven that homosexuality is genetic. But assuming it is, then it is a genetic disorder as it does not work to propagate the species.

    That is correct it has not been proven that homosexuality is genetic….nor has it been proven that it is a life choice. Perhaps religion is a genetic disorder that causes those afflicted to believe the stupidest dogma possible.

    Some things should be tolerated but not applauded and encouraged. I see no reason to applaud sodomy.

    Where did I applauded and encouraged homosexuality???

  67. Realist says:
    @The ol' gaffer

    There is no proof whatsoever that being homosexual is genetic.

    There is no proof whatsoever that being homosexual is a life choice.

  68. Realist says:

    There are a plethora of thumpers here.

  69. Realist says:
    @ken

    You are confusing faith and morals. Until the 20th century virtually all Christians shared the same morality.

    Just like sheep….never a thought of their own.

  70. Achmed E. Newman: ” He just means, is the 1st commandment or natural law that says one should not murder another something is only true based on culture or “the times”? Are the no rules like this that stand always and everywhere? Current “liberals” would say “no”.”

    What counts as murder? The opinion varies with the times, even among so-called Christian conservatives. Could one ever murder a slave, a heretic, or a witch, for example? In certain times and places, such actions were considered highly moral. Christ himself saved the woman caught in adultery from being executed by stoning, the prescribed punishment under the Law. If today all adulteresses were stoned, probably half of married women would have to be killed. And by all but a few Christians, it would be considered murder.

    ken: “You are confusing faith and morals. Until the 20th century virtually all Christians shared the same morality.”

    No. This is an illusion based on Christians’ ignorance of their religion’s history, or simply ignoring it. With respect to morality in general, that’s obviously changed quite a bit. As discussed above in my reply to Achmed E. Newman, definitions change with the times. Christians no longer torture people as they did in the Inquisition, or burn them at the stake for being witches (at least, not ordinarily). But at one time, such actions were considered the height of moral behavior. There was even an early Christian sect of gnostics called the Carpocratians who believed that the God of the Old Testament was evil, and that the path to salvation lay in systematically violating all 10 of the commandments. But they were wiped out by other Christians, as so many other heretics were.

    At issue in Pat’s column seems to be sexual morality specifically. But this has changed radically in the last few decades mainly in response to external, technological developments; namely, the scientific understanding of the role of hormones, which led to the development of birth control pills and other technologies that have severed sex from reproduction. These inventions have made sex a lifestyle choice instead of merely a means of perpetuating the species. Women can now be as dissolute as any man and still remain childless if they so choose. Via hormonal manipulation and various surgeries, men can now even be turned into passable facsimiles of women, and vice versa. Christianity is being forced to respond to all this, and so the factions within it contend with each other for dominance. Mayor Pete’s is one faction, and Buchanan’s and Pence’s is another. To the victor will go the spoils.

    • Replies: @ken
  71. Realist says:
    @Miro23

    Local Democracy is hard work but it produces a much more united and happy society.

    Local democracy, like national democracy, does not work. A large country with thousands of locals democracies is laughable.

    • Replies: @Galan
    , @Miro23
  72. @ken

    Mary: Our savior from an abstract Christ.

    Mary: the anti-Esther

    Mary, Sword and Shield of the anti-Zionists

    • Replies: @ken
  73. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @follyofwar

    Jones needs Owen Benjamin like a Ferrari needs training wheels.

    It’s great that you came across Jones’s material, but Benjamin is a zero. He should turn off the camera and stick to goats.

  74. Realist says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    T

    his is what I love about the cultural-marxist ‘left’: being a homosexual is genetic, while being male or female is merely a choice or a ‘social construct’!

    You are commenting about my statement but don’t have the balls to address me. You are just writing silly crap. I am as far from a cultural-marxist as you can get.

  75. Rurik says:
    @Michael Hoffman

    that follows from the corruption of original law.

    it’s correct to point out that the Church is dying of moral cowardice and corruption.

    What kind of Church tolerates endemic boy rape by its priests?

    What kind of Church bemoans the bastions of Christendom, building walls to keep out the non-Western hoards, while carefully staying mum on the issue of murderous aggressive wars, all based on lies?

    Those wars have slaughtered, maimed and displaced millions of innocent souls, but for the Pope, the only issue of consequence is opening the borders of a dying (((murdered))) Western civilization to throngs of Muslims and Hindus and stone age Africans.

    The soul-rot of Christianity seems nearly absolute, as the evangelicals all demand genocide (of Christ’s living blood relatives) in the Holy Land, so that they might force the Christ to reward them all with ‘rapture’, once the last Palestinian child is crushed under an IDF Caterpillar D9.

    What is there left of Christianity when it’s most powerful adherent is a treasonous, murderous scoundrel?

    He makes “Mayor Pete” Butt-boy look like a saint by comparison.

    At least Butt-b0y isn’t openly shilling for genocide in Jerusalem. Hiding behind ‘Christianity’ as he sells his nation and countrymen down the river for a few shekel$ more.

    Where are the Christians demanding an end to the ((demonic)) Eternal Wars?

    Where are the Christians demanding anything?

    They’re all moral cowards, too corrupted and sniveling to even protest the Satanic agenda of submerging the Christian West under The Final Deluge, drowning her once and for all. Only this flood will be far more cruel and unforgiving than the Biblical one.

    And yet from the pulpits of America’s churches, all you hear are hosannas to Israel!

    And demands for further politically correct soul-rot the entire length and breath of our formerly Christian institutions.

    Here’s as good a take on it all as I can find anywhere..

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2019/04/15/a-warning-but-from-whom/

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Realist
  76. Thinker says:
    @KenH

    Couldn’t agree more. Homosexuals prey on young boys, anywhere from ages 7 to 15. The owner of a gay theme bookstore in Boston famously said that if he were to remove all man-boy theme books from his store, he’d be left with nothing to sell. Read this, be warned, it’ll make you sick:
    https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/15/boy-crazy/

    MSM sold us a bill of goods on homosexuality. They try to normalize it with articles like “gays are so boring now” about gay couples now moving to the suburb, adopting children etc. Rest assure there’s nothing normal about those families. Dept. of child services should be checking on those children for signs of abuse from their own parents, but you know they won’t coz that would be “bigotry”.

    Many gay men prey on young boys who ran away from home, or have trouble relationships with their parents. It’s a way for them to not only find new exciting partners, but also to expand their pool of potential partners. Many of these young men got lured into the lifestyle for free beer, drugs, then when they get older, feel shame and disgust and fall into a life of drugs, many then overdose. Hollywood is full of such young men like Corey Haim and River Phoenix, who were victimized by disgusting powerful homosexual men like Bryan Singer. Seattle’s ex mayor Ed Murray was ousted after being accused by at least 4 men who were abused by him when he served as their foster parent, all were 15 or younger.

    More parents esp. mothers need to be aware of the danger facing their boys, and not let them go into public bathrooms(even in public libraries!) and locker rooms alone, which is where a lot of these abuses by strangers take place. A lot are also abused by people they know, an uncle, cousin etc. Homosexuality is a sickness and an abomination, it needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth.

    • Replies: @anon
  77. Realist says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Pete Buttplug and his Buttplug buddy should hold a gay pride rally in Muslim Dearborn Michigan…

    You seem quite familiar with homosexual proclivities….want to fess up?

  78. Thinker says:
    @Asagirian

    I’m sure there is a lot of overlap between Jews and homosexuals. Jewish men probably have the lowest testosterone of all whites. And every Jew homo wants to have a black husband, like Milo Yiannopulous, who claimed he was molested at 13, yet also suggest older gay men should “guide” young teens 13, 14 into the gay lifestyle.

  79. Realist says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Perhaps you shouldn’t leave your buttplug in so long it seems to induce your incessant mentioning of it.

  80. Thinker says:
    @Realist

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    Something that only gaytards and libtards believe in.

    Everyone else knows it’s a lifestyle choice.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Rurik
  81. Thinker says:

    Gays are the most narcissistic and morally bankrupt people around. The only thing they care about is their gayness, nothing else matters.

  82. Thinker says:
    @Realist

    Impulse control is determined by moral character and strength. Moral character and strength are shaped by culture and upbringing.

    • Replies: @Realist
  83. Realist says:
    @Rurik

    Some excellent points.

  84. Realist says:
    @Thinker

    Something that only gaytards and libtards believe in.

    Everyone else knows it’s a lifestyle choice.

    How do you know it’s a lifestyle choice?

    For someone with the moniker Thinker….you do very little of it.

    • Replies: @Thinker
    , @ken
  85. Asagirian says: • Website

    In some ways, religiosity is stronger than ever. Indeed, paradoxically enough, the reason for the decline of traditional religions is because they no longer offer the moral high and high ground of religiosity. People are abandoning them not because they are rejecting religiosity but because they can find it or more of it in something else.

    Now, religiosity is not the same thing as religion. Religiosity is the state of strong commitment, righteousness, and/or moral outrage. Religiosity can be gotten from anything, even non-religions. Marxists and Maoists were surely riding high on religiosity as they firmly believed that history, humanity, truth, and morality were on their side.

    A religion has power only if it retains the element of religiosity. Consider so many religions that have fallen by the wayside. Zoroastrianism for example. Today, it is mostly a matter of scholarly, mystical, and/or theological interest. Almost no one gets worked up over it.
    Some people seek out Eastern Mysticism, but it will never gain power because it lacks religiosity. Buddhism, Taoism, and such religions are about peace of mind, the search for the Way, the harmony. This was one reason why the East was less dynamic than the West, the culture of which was driven by Greco-dialectics and Judeo-monolithics. According to the Greeks, if there is A and B, the two must duke it out. Thus, the philosophical and historical pendulum swings violently back and forth, left and right. It causes a lot of friction and even trouble, but it also sets off lots of sparks. If both A and B remain viable, the dialectics continues and keeps shooting off sparks, some of which are destructive, some of which are constructive. But if A or B were to overcome the other or arrive at synthesis, it goes up against a new force: C, D, E, etc. As for Judeo-Monolithics, it says the ONE idea is absolutely true and all the power must be exerted to spread that idea far and wide. This is the core of Western Messianism and puritanism. Greco-dialectics made for dynamism, and Judeo-Monolithics made for commitment, aggression, and expansion. The Crusading or Jihad Mentality.

    In contrast, Taoism and Buddhism seek to rise above conflicts. Taoism seeks the Way, or the hidden harmony behind all chaos. It urges people not to involve themselves directly in world conflicts and instead to recede and contemplate with a cup of tea. Buddhism says everything is an illusion, and people should meditate to reach Nirvana and eternal extinction. With such spiritual outlooks, it’s no wonder the East was less dynamic(though it allowed for longer stretches of peace and stability, albeit of the repressive kind by today’s standards).

    [MORE]

    Modern religiosity thrives on psycho-cultural legacy of Greco-dialectics and Judeo-monolithics. Pat Buchanan loved politics all his life as a kind of sports. Political season is like sporting season. And so many people see the world in terms of ‘we are right, and you are wrong’. Most people don’t seek the middle-ground or the Way. They savor the dialectical bloodsports of politics. This owes to the pagan Greco-dialectical tradition. But Greeks and Romans, with their many gods, weren’t really into the cult of self-righteousness. Through endless discourse, they believed somethings were more right than others, but they didn’t believe there was anything or any people that was the holiest in the world for all eternity. They regarded everything, even the great gods, being in a state of flux.
    In contrast, Jews did see the world in absolutist and monomaniacal terms. They weren’t just another tribe, but the Tribe, the Chosen, and their God was the only true God, and they were blessed by the true God. So, Jews were filled with sanctimony and (self)righteousness, and this mindset flowed to the West via Christianity. If Greeks politicized conflicts, Christians spiritualized and moralized them. In the Athens vs Sparta conflict, both sides knew that it was all about power, economics, and influence. Sure, each side called on their gods for favors, but it was a conflict of ‘mighteous’ than righteous. It was dialectical politics. In contrast, infused with the mindset of Judeo-monolithics, Christians saw their conflicts in strongly moral and spiritual terms. So, there was a greater sense of moral outrage in conflicts involving Christians(which is why the US tries to morally justify everything it does around the world, a factor that blinds so many Americans to the true nature of what is really going on). Each side among Christians was totally holier-than-thou, even though many of the wars were triggered by political or economic factors than spiritual or moral ones.
    The Thirty Years War was even more destructive and harrowing than the Peloponnesian War because of the sense of spiritual outrage. If Spartans and Athenians were merely seeking political advantage over the other, Catholics and Protestants, armed with Judeo-monolithic moral outrage, was trying to totally crush the other for all time. When Spartans finally won, they let Athens survive. But if either Catholics or Protestants had gained total victory, the losing side would have been totally crushed and rubbed out. But as it happened, the stalemate finally led to some kind of understanding, and the art of Greco-dialectics prevailed over Judeo-monolithics. Catholics and Protestants would have to co-exist in lively conflict and not try to crush the other totally in the spirit of moral/spiritual absolutism.

    Why did Christian religion lose its religiosity in the 20th century?

    We know the usual suspects. The rise of science undermined religion, especially among the elites. Around the time the US was founded, many of the most intelligent people in both Old World and New World still believed in God, sought meaning in God, attended religious schools, and spread the Gospel. Religion back then had spiritual and moral authority, from top to bottom.
    But with the rise of modernity, most intelligent people abandoned religion, and if they did remain religious, it was on the personal level than on moral, spiritual, and social one. With best and brightest eschewing the religious life, the leadership came increasingly from the less intelligent segments of the population. Also, as religious authority lost prestige, fewer men were willing to give up worldly happiness for God. Back when the Catholic Church was like the Harvard of the West, many intelligent men were willing to sacrifice sex and good times to serve God. As priests, they had much respect in society. But when society no longer regarded priests as anything special, what was the point of giving up sex, marriage, and good times? So, an increasing number of priests came from eccentrics, derelicts, perverts, and homos. Some homos sought repentance for their sinful ways by serving God. Other homos figured they would take over the Church and make it ‘gay’ to serve toot-toota-loop homo vanity.

    Mainline churches replaced saving souls with saving the world with good work. But what is ‘good work’? As worldly matters and issues were defined by secular forces, Mainline church’s idea of ‘goodness’ came to be defined by academia and media. Then, it’s no wonder than Mainline churches now think god is all about the ‘gays’. After all, Ivy League, Hollywood, and NYT said so. Evangelicals were more traditionalist and moralistic, but they were dumb, and dummies lose out to smarties. Being dumb and childlike, Evanjellies could easily be manipulated by the Power. It’s no wonder so many Evanjellies are into ‘muh Israel’ and ‘Jews are holy’ even though Jews despise them and turned the Holy Land into Sodom and Gomorrah. Also, Evanjellies put emotions before dogma. It’s all about the FEELS. Then, it is no wonder that homomania is making inroads even among childlike Evanjellies. Also, as most Evanjellies, like Mormons, suffer from inferiority complex of status and class, they tend to suck up to the rich and powerful. Look how Mormons are changing full-steam ahead toward homomania because the rich and powerful now worship it as their main cult. And many Evanjellies are suckers for televangelists whose shtick is ‘god made me rich’ and ‘Jews are great cuz they are so rich’.
    As for the Catholic Church, it shot itself in the foot by the reforms of the Second Vatican Council. While some of the reforms were good and necessary, others presented the Church in the position of weakness, especially via Jews and modernity. The main mode was of concession and contrition, and this put the Church on the moral defensive than offensive. Instead of judging the world with the One True Faith, it sought forgiveness from the world. Thus, being a Catholic came with less religiosity and more perplexity.

    While people may be drawn to religions for metaphysical or philosophical reasons, religion has power ONLY WHEN it has the element of religiosity. Religious or secular, people are more prone to organize, unite, and rally IF they the run the fever of religiosity. This is why the anti-homo voices tended to come from the religious. There are non-religious people who oppose the homo agenda, but they feel less worked up because they just believe it is wrong, not an affront to God. There are secular people who are anti-abortion, but again, they see it as ugly and wrong, whereas religious people see it as a grave sin. Because of their element of religiosity, the religious often united to push for or against certain issues.

    This is what Jews hate about Christian religiosity. (They hate Islamic religiosity too, but at least in the West, they make alliances with Muslims against Christians.) Those armed with religiosity are more likely to leave the house, meet with others, gather together(esp in churches), and protest. Even when people dislike or oppose something, the chances are they are not gonna do anything about it unless they are armed with religiosity. They see it as a personal matter — “I don’t like it” — than as a grand moral/spiritual one — “It is an affront to God”.
    But Jews fear Christianity far less now because it’s either been bled of religiosity or infected with neo-religiosity of PC, e.g. all those churches that are now all about Diversity, Globo-Homo, Anti-Whitey, Holy Negro Worship, and Jew-Worship. Catholic Church is no longer a force of religiosity because it’s in cucky-wuck apologetic mode. “We are sorry so many of our priests buggered boys”. “We are sorry for having aided and abetted imperialism, genocide, etc.” “We must fill up Europe with Africans and Muslims because Christians have so much to atone for.” There is no moral pride or spiritual authority. It now even has what looks like closet-homo pope, aka the Poop, who says Europe must be Afro-Islamized as fast as possible. Because the Church is still officially opposed to ‘gay marriage’ and abortion, progs still eye Catholicism with disgusts and trepidation. But because it is so cucked and wussy, traditional Catholics feel nauseous about sticking with the Church. There is hardly any real religiosity found in Catholicism anymore.

    But people love religiosity because it’s like a drug. It gives them the high of moral sanctimony, the rush of holier-than-thou rage, and a sense of unity with ‘history is on our side’. The thing is religiosity can be gotten from anything: Ideology and ‘Idology'(or idolatry as ideology).
    Those Red Guard lunatics during the Cultural Revolution were surely filled with righteous religiosity. Incidentally, the Cultural Revolution showed that religiosity had little to do with truth and more to do with control of information and indoctrination. After all, Mao’s policies had killed tens of millions in the Great Leap Forward. He should have been disgraced forever based on historical facts, but with control of propaganda and the military Mao and his gang were able to instill countless young people with fever of religiosity and set them loose to smash ‘class enemies’ in ruthless abandon and righteous rage.

    It’s like no amount of destruction done by Black Savage Reversion, Crazy Jewish Supremacism, and Nutty Homo Perversion has made any real dent in the holiness of those three groups. Given all the black crime and thuggery, one might think Americans would have wised up to the fact that blacks are the crazy savage race, but Jews control the media and they keep rerunning the Emitt Till and MLK narrative over and over. And come Superbowl season, white cucky-wucks are back to worshiping blacks as sports hero demigods. And given what Jewish Power has done to the US in terms of financial distress and foreign Wars for Israel(that created WWII situations in Middle East), you’d think people would have wised up to Jewish power by now. But every year, it’s Holocaust this, Holocaust that, and “Jews are eternally holy holocaust people” and “If you notice Jewish power, you’re an anti-Semite.” So, even ‘literally Hitler’ Trump spends most of his time with his lips wrapped around Netanyahu’s pud. And given the HIV mess caused by deranged homos, you’d think people would have woken up to the danger of homo influence and practice. But Jews(who run the media) ‘sacralized’ homos in movies, TV shows, and advertising. And Jews associated homos with the ‘rainbow’, and whore politicians just can’t get enough of pontificating about how the New Normal of morality is all about celebrating homo fecal penetration and tranny-penis-cutting.

    If Rob punched you but has the megaphone and says that you punched him while he makes himself out to be the poor poor victim, people will side with Rob and denounce you and maybe even punch you. Worse, even people who saw Rob punch you may not come to your aid because Rob’s megaphone can attract many more people to his side. Or, even those who witnessed Rob punching you may believe you deserved to be punched because you’re a bad person. This is what Jews are doing with ‘punch a nazi’ meme. They are saying that if Jews, Antifa, or blacks attack whites who happen to be ‘nazi’, then the righteousness belongs to the puncher because ‘nazis’ are evil and deserve it. This is how religiosity works. It’s not so much about objective definition of right or wrong or legal or illegal. It’s about holy vs unholy. It’s about blessed vs the wicked. Just like Christians in their hyper-religiosity could be inspired to carry out violent acts against heathens, the PC crowd can be driven to rages of religiosity to attack any people and feel good and righteous about it.

    As Jews control academia, media, entertainment, and whore-politicians, they control the levers of religiosity. Academia writes the sacred texts, the canons of officialdom. Media relay them as ‘news’ and sermons. Entertainment turns certain figures and narratives into idols. And whore-politicians use oratory to push the acceptable narrative.

    People are leaving the church and flocking to PC, Homomania, and Afromania because most of the hottest religiosity is now to be found there. PC slogans and chants about ‘Diversity’ and ‘Inclusion’ are the new mantras and catechisms. And ‘gay rights’ became Gay Rites, a neo-religion. There was a time when NO ONE was worked up over homo issues. At most, some supported the legalization of homosexuality because they figured homos were born that way. Also, they figured homos are deserving of individual rights too. It was a legal matter, not a moral one. No one thought there was innately holy about being a homo. No one felt he was holier or more righteous because he was pro-homo.
    But Jewish media spun the HIV crisis to make homos out to be victims of something akin to a holocaust even though homos did it to themselves by acting like a bunch of butt-bang-boys in bathhouses. Movies like PHILADELPHIA and BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN made homo lust the highest and most tragic kind of love. Homos were made into saintly icons. Such ploy would have been thought outrageous when the US was more religious and moral, but in Boomer-dominated America of the 1990s and 2000s, it went over with post-religious people and young people raised on degeneracy. Also, as Bush II was such an awful posterboy of the Christian Right, young people turned away from religion. Furthermore, what with religions being so cucked & apologetic while AND homomania got more judgmental & aggressive, young people realized that there was more religiosity points to be found on the holy-homo side than on the religious side. While homomaniacs are passionately and aggressively sure of their cause and position, the Religious Right seemed confused, cowardly, and castrated. As Jews came to dominate the GOP and bought off most top church leaders, NO ONE on the Right mounted any counter-attack against homomania. They kept their heads down like the worthless Rich Lowry lest they offend Jews as allies of holy homos. Also, young people, raised on celebrity culture, were addicted to the cult of the cool. So, what some pop star or famous actor said mattered more to them than what some crusty religious type said. Mormons for one are really a bunch of Mammonites who will sell their mothers down the river for thirty pieces of silver. Look at those worthless piles of shit Mitt Romney and Harry Reid.

    Now, it may well be that the current religiosities of PC may blow away. After all, where is Maoist religiosity today? Where is Stalinist fervor? Secular forms of religiosity have short-shelf lives because history proves them wrong. History proved communism wrong. All the icons and altars to Marx and Lenin came to mean nothing to Eastern Europeans with the fall of the Iron Curtain. Hitler, who was once the much revered icon of glory among Germans, has been disgraced. In contrast, God cannot be deposed and may yet win again in the long run. That said, in any given MOMENT in history, those with more religiosity win over those with less. And the fact is religions have lost the fire of religiosity either because people lost faith or because the religions have become cucked and apologetic. There was a time when to become a Christian was to be filled with a sense of salvation, glory, and pride. Now, joining the church means you should kneel before a homo and apologize for the church’s 2000 yrs of ‘homophobia’ against guys like Butt-gigs who thinks dicks-up-my-ass is great because ‘god made him gay’. Using such logic, a fatso should take pride in his gluttony since god made him want to pig out like a hippo. And I suppose a drunken Irish can argue that his alcoholism is a wonder to behold because god made him want to hit the bottle.

    Ideologies can be full of religiosity because they offer a formula for understanding history and fixing humanity. As such, they are more than mere ideas but a worldview of ‘what REALLY happened’ and ‘what must happen’. It has an element of prophecy, and so, ideologues are armed with religiosity. In time, ideological religiosity may fade as people get tired of the same-old-same-old and/or because the promises don’t come true. This was true enough with communism.
    Or, even if the ideology does succeed — such as the Americanist individualist-capitalist ideology — , it can lose its righteous luster if critiqued endlessly by radicals and subversives. Notice how the very founders and makers of the American nation have been so drastically ‘discredited’ by Jewish use of PC that now says MLK is the true ‘founding father’ while all those ‘dead white males’ were a bunch of hypocrites who owned slaves. (Never mind Jewish bankers funded much of ‘white supremacist’ imperialism around the world, and Jewish immigrants worked alongside whites to wipe out Indians and enslave & exploit blacks.)
    In our increasingly post-literate age or what Christopher Hedges calls the Empire of Illusion, the power of ‘idology’ or neo-iconography may now matter more than ideology. Why are so many people reverential toward rappers even though all they ever say is ‘muh gun’, ‘muh dick’, ‘muh bling’, ‘muh ho’, and etc? Because idolatry makes them look cool and badass, and that’s enough for neo-worship in our deracinated and degenerate age. But then, because of the narrative and iconography of the Noble Negro as victim of ‘white racism’, the image of black cool is fused with image of black tragedy, and this makes them even more potent as idols for young people to worship and that means a lot of religiosity points in the ‘idolic’ worship of the Negro. And of course, nothing is holier to SWPL crowd than the holy holy of the ‘rainbow’ valley. Compared to that, what does the current Church have to offer except butt-hurt apologetics and “I’m sorry”.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  86. Realist says:

    When someone stoops to quoting the Bible to bolster their argument….they have already lost.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  87. Galan says:
    @Realist

    Local democracy is possible. Depends on the issue. The people/elite of a country must agree as to what issues should be determined at the local level, and what at the national level.

    • Replies: @Realist
  88. Thinker says:
    @Realist

    The reason gays are gay is because they don’t think, they feel, and everything they do is guided by their feelings. They must react to every feeling every moment they have it.

    Liberals are slaves to their feelings too. That’s why there’s such a high overlap btwn those two groups.

    Conservatives think first. We are not slaves to our feelings. Hence the saying, conservatives have no heart, liberals have no brain.

    • Replies: @Realist
  89. @Realist

    Sexual preferences are genetic.

    Hmmm… You’d be interested in this:
    http://discovermagazine.com/2006/sep/gaybrothers

    I don’t know if it failed to replicate; probably. But the article states that the more older brothers a man has, the more likely it is that he is gay. The theorized mechanism: a “memory effect” in the womb whereby exposure to testosterone from previous male infants bathes the infant brain in extra testosterone, giving the male child a predilection towards homosexuality. So, not genetic: if you wanted to run the world’s most unethical experiment, you could subject male infants to extra testosterone in utero and check results.

    From the article: “the more brothers a man has, the more likely he is to be gay. According to Bogaert, every older brother increases the probability that a man is homosexual by 33 percent. The average estimate of the base rate of male homosexuality is around 4 percent of the general population. So a man with 1 older brother has around a 5.3 percent probability of being homosexual. For the youngest of 3 brothers, that figure rises to 7 percent. Hypothetically, a man with 9 older biological brothers, according to Bogaert’s estimates, has about a 50 percent chance of being gay.”

    On your second point, with very rare exceptions, you’re right. Hate crime to say it, though!

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @dfordoom
  90. @Realist

    I’m just stating the obvious facts about what post-1965 America has evolved into…And Athiest fags such as you don’t want the NORMALS to notice….

  91. @Realist

    No I’m not….noticing that a once formerly Christian Nation has degenerated into Global-Homo-NEO-Liberal Oligarch Gangster Racket doesn’t mean one is a homo…..You Athiest Fag….

    • Replies: @Realist
  92. I don’t think America is ready for President Buttplug.

  93. Rurik says:
    @Thinker

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    Something that only gaytards and libtards believe in.

    Everyone else knows it’s a lifestyle choice.

    alright ‘Thinker, take this challenge then..

    Assuming you’re a straight man, what are the chances that tomorrow you’re going to wake up and think to yourself, ‘hmm, I think today I’d like to s–k a d–k’ ?

    Or ‘ya know what’, I’ve never been buggered, I think I’ll try it’.

    If you are a straight guy, then the possibilities of thinking those things are exactly zero. Zilch / nada.

    In fact, if you’re a straight dude, then those things would be right up there with getting castrated, burned alive, or boiled in oil.

    So, what this proves, is that there’s something wrong with the wiring of homosexuals. And as Ken said, it’s usually congenital, but occasionally, as some people have pointed out, boys (and presumably girls) can be unwilling conscripts into the tragic affliction by predatory men.

    Homosexuality is a sickness and an abomination, it needs to be eradicated from the face of the earth.

    While I can’t argue with that in principle, in reality it’s not so easy.

    But everything was much better when it was in the closet, and considered a shameful thing.

    Now under our ((cultural elites)), it’s straight (especially White) people who’re pathologized, and homomania is elevated to a heroic status.

    But what do you expect when your institutions have been bought and paid for by the Satanists who Woodrow Wilson handed unlimited money/power over to?

    Since that infamous day on Christmas eve, 1913, our culture and heritage, (even down to our very genetic identity) were all doomed to eventual depravity and dissolution.

    I suppose we now have to watch it all burn down to the ground, (in particular the federal reserve note) before any redeeming re-birth can be possible. That is if there’s anything left to redeem.

    Perhaps Russia will keep the light lit, and the rebirth will come from the East.

    • Replies: @ken
  94. KenH says:
    @lavoisier

    Biological determinism is trumping the blank slate over and over again with empirical scientific research.

    What studies prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the heritability of homosexuality in 100% of cases? Some or many homosexuals could be genetically predisposed to same sex relationships but I’m convinced there’s other causes as well. The (((homosexual lobby))) has spent a great deal of time and money in co-opting psychiatry to prove the heritability of homosexuality which would then normalize the lifestyle.

    Revelation is no match for science.

    I’m not defending revelation and the gospels. I’m advancing logic and common sense. Molestation is a vicious cycle and homosexual child molesters/sexual predators were often themselves molested as children. This plays a role some males becoming homosexuals later in life who otherwise wouldn’t be.

    • Replies: @lavoisier
  95. lavoisier says: • Website
    @KenH

    Almost certain that what you are stating is true.

  96. @Robert Dolan

    The Democratic Party 2019 is a coaliti0n of homosexual degenerates and homophobic muslims…

    The filthy homosexual pigs will never force a Muslim Baker anywhere in America to bake a homo wedding cake for homo buttplug enthusiasts…

  97. Realist says:
    @TomSchmidt

    You thumpers are so easy to light up….rave on.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  98. Realist says:
    @Thinker

    The reason gays are gay is because they don’t think, they feel, and everything they do is guided by their feelings. They must react to every feeling every moment they have it.

    No one is more controlled by their feelings than thumpers.

    Conservatives think first. We are not slaves to our feelings.

    Your slaves to the bible and can not think for yourselves.

  99. Realist says:
    @Galan

    The people/elite of a country must agree as to what issues should be determined at the local level, and what at the national level.

    Then you’re back to national democracy.

  100. G. Poulin says:

    Pat asks how a country so divided can come together again. Simple and obvious answer : it can’t. This ends when one side destroys the leadership of the other side and gulags the rest of them. The only question is : do you want to be a gulager or a gulagee?

  101. Realist says:
    @Thinker

    Impulse control is determined by moral character and strength. Moral character and strength are shaped by culture and upbringing.

    So you have had impulses to do deviant sexual acts but your culture and upbringing???

    • Replies: @ken
  102. ken says:
    @Realist

    How is engaging in sodomy not a choice?

    • Replies: @Realist
  103. @G. Poulin

    Yes…that’s how the issue will be resolved……Partition and secession is Alt Right Fantasy….Partition and Secession means being surrounded by Andrew Yang’s Han People….

    What about the new borders? The new borders are gonna have to be enforced with force and violence….the way the old borders of the nation America should have been…..

    Nonwhites are locust….

    ANDREW YANG HARBORS OPEN GENOCIDE INTENT TOWARDS OUR PEOPLE……THE 1872 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN REPEALED…..

  104. ken says:
    @Realist

    Exactly. A married man sees an attractive. He imagines what it would be like to have sex with her. But he’s a man not an animal so he doesn’t commit adultery. It’s like your trying to make things difficult-thumper.

    • Replies: @Realist
  105. @Realist

    No idea what a thumper is.

    I’d only advise you move from “genetic” to “natural,” since I’ve outlined one paper suggesting that intrauterine hormones, not genes, are causal. You’re otherwise going to be wrong, and a realist ought not live in unreality.

    • Replies: @Realist
  106. ken says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    I’m ignorant of your take on history.

    Again various factions of Christianity fought over faith, never about morals.

  107. ken says:
    @Grace Poole

    I have no idea what any of this means.

  108. ken says:
    @Rurik

    “Assuming you’re a straight man, what are the chances that tomorrow you’re going to wake up and think to yourself, ‘hmm, I think today I’d like to s–k a d–k’ ?

    Or ‘ya know what’, I’ve never been buggered, I think I’ll try it’.”

    The choice comes into play when the man who has these thoughts decides to act on them. If these people truly can’t control their lust then I’d have even stronger negative feelings about them.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  109. Realist says:
    @ken

    Exactly. A married man sees an attractive. He imagines what it would be like to have sex with her.

    Have you discussed this with your wife?

    It’s like your trying to make things difficult-thumper.

    Perhaps you should look up the term thumper….I am most certainly not one.

    • Replies: @ken
  110. ken says:
    @Realist

    Nah, I have impulses that conflict with my morality. Because I’m not an animal I don’t act on every impulse. My sexuality is male, Thumper.

    • Replies: @Realist
  111. Realist says:
    @TomSchmidt

    No idea what a thumper is.

    Perhaps you should look it up.

    I’d only advise you move from “genetic” to “natural,” since I’ve outlined one paper suggesting that intrauterine hormones, not genes, are causal.

    The production of hormones are controlled by genetics. One paper does not a proof make.
    It would be wise to get some knowledge about a subject before you argue with me.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  112. Realist says:
    @ken

    How is engaging in sodomy not a choice?

    I did not say it was not a choice….I said lifestyle choice….big difference.

    • Replies: @ken
  113. @Realist

    Who has ever won an argument on social media?

    • Replies: @Realist
  114. @Realist

    Thumper: “A single-cylinder engined motorcycle, especially those having a four-stroke engine or large engine displacement. A particular drinking game wherein players must remember personal hand signs while being distracted by others’ banging on a table.”

    Hmmm. Never been called a motorcycle before.

    The production of hormones are controlled by genetics.
    In the sense that all protein synthesis is guided by genetic material. That’s kinda dull, unless… are you suggesting that different mothers produce different versions of sex hormones due to genetic variation? And that these varying hormones might have different effects? That might actually be interesting.

    Of course, injecting testosterone into a uterus to experiment with the idea would not be driven by either the mother or the fetus’ genes, so…

    One paper does not a proof make. See my comment about replication, above. It’s an interesting idea, certainly not as grounded as F=MA. As is Greg Cochran’s idea that a virus may cause some male homosexuality, which you would ascribe to “genetics,” because it would involve DNA (well, RNA too), but then you’d be playing silly little semantic games, and you’re too mature for that.

    As to argument, we haven’t defined terms, it seems. Can’t have one if one’s definition of a term is so broad or shifting that all the struggle is heat, not light.

    Peace.

    • Replies: @Realist
  115. Miro23 says:
    @Realist

    @Miro23
    Local Democracy is hard work but it produces a much more united and happy society.

    Local democracy, like national democracy, does not work. A large country with thousands of locals democracies is laughable.

    Why doesn’t it work? It’s completely scalable.

    The county/state provides meeting halls, paid time off work, quality “for and against” research and a legal obligation for every citizen to attend and vote.

    Then it introduces the national issue, for example legal Gay Marriage.

    The various lobbies (for and against), all get a fair hearing and every county/state contributes its vote. The final national tally decides it. Washington just puts the result into law.

    In Switzerland (a notably multicultural place speaking 4 languages) they used exactly this system to approve of Gay Marriage (but not the adoption of children by gay couples.)

    • Replies: @Realist
  116. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:

    I lived for a time in SF and have been around enough homos to know that they always want to make everyone else think they’re gay too, so that they can feel “normal”, even though they insist they’re normal to begin with. This whole push by the left to encourage transgenderism in teens is to make homos look “normal” — by comparison. Homos are a bunch of sick psychos with zero self-control, and zero morals.

    Gays and muslims deserve one another. Lots of Jewish homos love them macho hairy wife beating middle eastern men. Maybe that’s why Muslim men despise them so much and want to kill them all.

  117. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    The 10 Commandments will never go away. They will just be re-interpreted into meaninglessness. Actually that has already happened.

  118. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Joe Rizoli

    is not saying much for the voters themselves who put these decadents in office.

    Actually, that represents less than half the potential voters. Most people have given up in believing that voting makes any difference

  119. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thinker

    Gays prey on children because they don’t believe in any self-control, it’s the main reason why they’re gay to begin with, they want to have sex whenever, wherever, with whomever they damn well please, and then just walk away, without any consequence, like animals. Women whine and complain too much, and always drag emotions into it. It’s easier to just find another man. Or boy, whatever they feel like at the moment, zero self-restraint, zero morals.

    • Agree: dfordoom
  120. Bliss says:
    @anon

    Belief in astrology and “spiritual energy” of physical things like holy places and relics of saints was universal in the most history of Christianity.

    That’s why I picked only reincarnation. Christianity considers it an anathema, a heresy. Why did you ignore that?

    Should someone who calls himself a Christian and believes in reincarnation be classified as a Christian, whether Catholic or Protestant? Not if you are being honest.

    Likewise the atheists (and agnostics) who believe in reincarnation are totally confused. They cannot be counted as true atheists. And of course not as christians.

    The simple way to cut through the confusion is to look at the percentages of:

    1. those believe in reincarnation (primary source being the eastern religions)

    2. those who believe there is no life after death (the true atheists. Primary source: Darwinism, Marxism)

    Anyone who believes either of the above cannot be a true Christian (or a true Muslim). Right?

    Well, 33% of all Americans believe in reincarnation (the Pew Poll) and over 25% believe there is no life after death (from the same survey Buchanan is using above). Christianity is no longer the majority religion in the US.

  121. For what Buttigieg is saying is that either God changes his moral law to conform to the changing behavior of mankind or that, for 2,000 years, Christian preaching and practice toward homosexuals has been bigoted, injurious and morally indefensible.

    That is a false dichotomy.

    Pat is leaving out the possibility that neither God’s moral law nor mankind’s behavior has changed.

    What Buttigieg is saying is that man has simply misinterpreted God’s moral law, or just flat out written it himself and called it God’s.

  122. Realist says:
    @Miro23

    The county/state provides meeting halls, paid time off work, quality “for and against” research and a legal obligation for every citizen to attend and vote.

    Then it introduces the national issue, for example legal Gay Marriage.

    The various lobbies (for and against), all get a fair hearing and every county/state contributes its vote. The final national tally decides it. Washington just puts the result into law.

    You are going to force people to vote??? You are going to have everybody in the country vote on every dumbass issue???

    In Switzerland (a notably multicultural place speaking 4 languages) they used exactly this system to approve of Gay Marriage (but not the adoption of children by gay couples.)

    Switzerland can’t hold a candle to the US for multiculturalism dozens of languages are spoken in the US.

    • Replies: @Miro23
  123. ken: “I’m ignorant of your take on history.”

    Luckily, you can educate yourself.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpocrates
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cainites

    ken: “Again various factions of Christianity fought over faith, never about morals.”

    That’s just not correct. As the links above show, in early Christianity there was intense disagreement over morals. Then too, you should think about the role abolitionists, virtually all of them fanatic Christians, played in instigating the American Civil War. In many respects the Civil War was a religious dispute among Christians, because slavery was viewed by the abolitionists and their sympathizers as a great moral evil, the continued existence of which was intolerable to them. In the South, by contrast, some Christian preachers tried to make excuses for slavery and even claimed it was to the benefit of the negroes to be enslaved; that enslaving them and Christianizing them was the white man’s Christian duty. So that is another profound disagreement on morality among Christians that took place before the 20th century.

    You also might want to review Michael Hoffman’s comment/article above in #4. He details the history of usury and how, forbidden as a sin for a long time, it came to be redefined and largely accepted by the Catholic Church. Hoffman is a member of a faction that still considers it sinful, and that’s another example of a moral disagreement of long standing within Christianity.

    As for sexual morality, there are still Christians who are convinced that the OT punishments of death for sodomy, adultery, etc. should be carried out literally. I’ve run into some of them here in this forum. Most Christians have disagreed with that view for centuries. The Christian spin off called Mormonism thought polygamy was moral until relatively recently (some of them still do), while most American Christians disagreed.

    All of these examples of moral disagreement among Christians certainly ought to be enough to establish my original point that there is no such thing as one “true” Christianity, but rather, many Christianities, all interpretations of a myth, almost endless in variety.

    • Replies: @ken
  124. @anon

    By definition….HOMOSEXUALS=PEDOPHILE…PEDERAST PROCLIVITIES….EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE GD VERMON….just look at the photos-videos of Gay Pride Parades….

    • Replies: @Thomm
  125. Realist says:
    @TomSchmidt

    Thumper: “A single-cylinder engined motorcycle, especially those having a four-stroke engine or large engine displacement. A particular drinking game wherein players must remember personal hand signs while being distracted by others’ banging on a table.”

    Hmmm. Never been called a motorcycle before.

    Thumper short for bible thumper: a very religious person. one who always refers to the bible in everyday conversation.

    That’s kinda dull, unless… are you suggesting that different mothers produce different versions of sex hormones due to genetic variation?

    Genetics can determine which hormone is released, when and how much.

    One paper does not a proof make. See my comment about replication, above. It’s an interesting idea, certainly not as grounded as F=MA. As is Greg Cochran’s idea that a virus may cause some male homosexuality, which you would ascribe to “genetics,” because it would involve DNA (well, RNA too), but then you’d be playing silly little semantic games, and you’re too mature for that.

    All living things do as their genetics tell them….including viruses.

  126. Realist says:
    @Simply Simon

    Who has ever won an argument on social media?

    I didn’t say anything about social media.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  127. Realist says:
    @ken

    My sexuality is male, Thumper.

    So you’re gay??? You have sex with male thumpers….that’s bizarre.

    sex·u·al·i·ty
    /ˌsekSHo͞oˈalədē/ : a person’s sexual orientation or preference.

  128. Miro23 says:
    @Asagirian

    This is how religiosity works. It’s not so much about objective definition of right or wrong or legal or illegal. It’s about holy vs unholy. It’s about blessed vs the wicked.

    The West’s religiosity is the Progressive/PC agenda. You can be arrested and imprisoned for whatever they define as “Hate Speech” or for questioning the Holocaust.

    As Jews control academia, media, entertainment, and whore-politicians, they control the levers of religiosity. Academia writes the sacred texts, the canons of officialdom. Media relay them as ‘news’ and sermons. Entertainment turns certain figures and narratives into idols. And whore-politicians use oratory to push the acceptable narrative.

    The Jewish Church with its Holocaust icon controlling the Progressive/PC religion.

    That said, in any given MOMENT in history, those with more religiosity win over those with less.

    It’s true that there can be conflicting religiosities.

    For example, potent Islamic religiosity crashed through Spain in the Middle Ages (8th century) and headed north into Europe – but finally lacked sufficient power to destroy the opposing religiosity of Christian Europe (Christendom). Islamic forces were finally defeated at the Battle of Poitiers (France 732 – Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi by Charles Martel).

    Similarly, Bolshevik religiosity tried to expand its spectacular successes out of Russia (1917) and into Europe, with the German and Hungarian revolutionary insurrections (1919). They succeeded for a while in Hungary, but in Germany ran up against German Nationalist religiosity in the form of the paramilitary Freikorps. They fought it out on the streets (and successfully disposed of the local Bolsheviks and their revolutionary leaders Rosa Luxemburg and Eugen Leviné).

    Current PC religiosity is having trouble on various fronts – for example, Christian nationalist Russia, nationalist China, nationalist UK (Brexit) and nationalist France (Yellow Vests), Italy etc.

    No wonder the PC religionists demonize nationalism and patriotism.

    • Agree: Sin City Milla
    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  129. ken says:
    @Dr. Robert Morgan

    Your Civil War claim may be the strongest leg to stand on, but I don’t remember Northern Methodist battle cries, “Kill those Baptists who believe in slavery!” But then your position would have to be that northern Christians were wrong to interfere with the practices of the southerners, which outside of this forum won’t earn you much applause.

    Your links only prove how far back you have to stretch for a point.

    My disagreement was with your assessment that history was filled with “heaps of corpses” from various Christians sects disagreeing over morality and I remain unconvinced of your opinion. The mayors notion of Christian morality is diametrically opposite of mine as well as all Christian denominations prior to the 20th century, but I’m not aware of anyone planning on declaring war on his church.

    Look at the history of Orthodoxy and Catholicism; by the far the bloodiest of the inter-Christian fighting, yet the two groups nearest each in moral law.

  130. Miro23 says:
    @Realist

    You are going to force people to vote??? You are going to have everybody in the country vote on every dumbass issue???

    If personal participation of citizens in politics (issue by issue) is weird, and every national issue as “dumbass” then stay with your beer and TV sports. See what Washington has coming to you.

  131. ken says:
    @Realist

    Bambi asks,”Have you discussed this with your wife?”- Sure, why?

  132. ken says:
    @Realist

    Bambi,
    I’ll bite. How is engaging in sodomy not a lifestyle choice?

  133. ken: “My disagreement was with your assessment that history was filled with “heaps of corpses” from various Christians sects disagreeing over morality and I remain unconvinced of your opinion.”

    Since differences among Christians in matters of faith, (by which I assume you mean such things as the nature of Jesus (man or God), whether he was one substance or two, and the like) and matter of morality often blended into one another, and each side considered the other’s opinion immoral, I think you’re really straining to find a difference between disputes of faith and morals where none really existed. One’s enemy is always depicted as a morally bankrupt monster. How else? Has there ever been a war in which the enemy was lauded as fine, upstanding folks “just like us”? If you think heaps of corpses were lacking, examine the Albigensian crusade, or the Thirty Years War, just for starters.

    Your argument seems focused on the different Christian sexual morality espoused by Mayor Pete, and his open homosexual practices. But as I explained, technological developments of the 20th century can account for that, just as the decline of race-based slavery and its descent into being regarded as an intolerable evil among Christians can be traced to inventions of the Industrial Revolution. The Christian religion adapts to new circumstances as they arise in order to keep adherents and find new ones, revising its morality as needed. Therefore there never was any one “true” Christianity, nor is there; only a constantly changing story about what constitutes moral behavior among the many Christianities.

  134. Wally says:
    @Realist

    said:
    “Religion should not be brought into law.”

    Really?

    Even if a law encroaches upon someone’s right to practice non-violent, non-aggression aspects of their religion?

  135. The Dems have set themselves up for another electoral defeat. As Dick Morris says, once in the wilderness it takes ten years to come back. We are seeing it.

    Once Christianity dies, do people become truly secular? Or do they switch to the next religion in line? When an elite professes a particular religion, the rest of society eventually follows, that’s what history teaches. In the US, Jews are the elite. With Christianity dead, I confidently expect Judaism to take its place. Its only opposition is White Nationalism. The next generation I believe will see a Jewish Democratic Party versus a White Nationalist Party, perhaps Republican, perhaps a third party.

  136. swamped says:

    “This weekend, General Social Survey data revealed that Americans who profess to have “no religion,” 23.1%, now exceed Catholics, our largest religion with 23%, and Evangelicals at 22.5%”…Catholics are NOT the largest religion – even if it is Mr. Buchanan’s own. Protestants – all evangelical & ‘mainstream’ denominations combined – still top the list by far, but not by as much as in earlier centuries. America is still a Protestant country. Even though the number of non-religious citizens has risen, the Protestant nature of civil society still endures, as the late Samuel Huntington has described in detail. But just as in civil society, Protestants don’t all agree either on many issues, religious & secular. But it’s still the looser Protestant ethic which unites the whole. It’s why”America is today as powerful, prosperous and free as any nation the world has ever seen”. Once that goes, there won’t be much left to hold the society together.

  137. @Realist

    Isn’t UR social media?

    • Replies: @Realist
  138. @Republic

    Tim Kelly’s interview is the funniest thing I have heard in at least a month.

    E. Michael Jones on Mayor Pete

  139. MSM is the self-designated protector of the Jew-homo-negro holy trinity (because it’s dominated by these 3 groups). They make these people untouchable. Anyone who dares say anything negative about any of these groups is immediately dragged out and publicly lynched by the vicious msm.

    The biggest cover up of homosexual pedophilia is the story on the abuse in the Catholic church . The left (media, academia, Hollywood) used these abuses as weapon with which to viciously attack the Catholic church and the religion itself, all the more so because it is the only mainline Christian church that has not accepted homosexuality unlike all the Protestant churches. By focusing the attacks on the Catholic church and Catholicism itself, they conveniently forgotten to mention that these abusive priests are a bunch of HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILES.

  140. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Yes. But remember that about 40% of White Trashionalists are gay. This has been observed by everyone from John Derbyshire to Jack Donovan, and is often openly stated on Stormfront, etc.

  141. I’m waiting for the real skeletons to fall out of Mayor Buttplug’s closet, like all the underage boys he’s molested, like Seattle’s libtard ex-mayor Ed Murray.

    With homos, it’s always just a matter of time. They’ve all done it and they know it.

    • Replies: @Thinker
  142. “Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.”

    Sez you. It’s all about choices now.

  143. @Realist

    It’s a secular conceit that law doesn’t depend on some kind of moral code derived from religion. In the case of Western Civilization, that morality is Christianity. Like it or not, admit it or not, there are more aspects of Christian moral values floating around in our traditions, our culture, and our current law than can be counted or easily grasped. And don’t try to come back with the standard trite non-sequitur that some other kind of secular humanist value system could somehow take its place, because the fruits of that would be completely out of your comfort zone, and our civilization could never have attained the heights of personal liberty, scientific method, engineering, music, architecture, etc etc etc. that we all enjoy.

    But meanwhile you go ahead and be happy in your deliberate ignorance.

    • Replies: @Realist
  144. There is a reasonable explanation for every evil under the sun, and leftists use every single one of them. The only way to stop evil is to say “NO”. No more dialogue, no more compromises, just say “NO”.

  145. Realist says:
    @Monotonous Languor

    It’s a secular conceit that law doesn’t depend on some kind of moral code derived from religion.

    If you need religion to provide a moral compass you are truly a loser.

    ….personal liberty, scientific method, engineering,…

    It is ridiculous that you give religion credit for science or personal liberty. Religion has done more to try to discredit science than any other effort to squelch the truth. Religion’s purpose is to control people…. not provide liberty.

    But meanwhile you go ahead and be happy in your deliberate ignorance.

    Ignorance is what religion thrives on. Those that need the fear of the devil are morally weak.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  146. Realist says:
    @Simply Simon

    Isn’t UR social media?

    My comment was made in the general sense….not restricted to a blog.

  147. Parfois1 says:

    “How does a nation so divided ever come together again?”

    Was the USA ever a “nation”?

    Think what defines a nation. Or rather, there were many nations prior to Columbus.
    A State is not a nation, only a political entity.
    Compare the USA with most European countries with their historical nationhood.
    The USA is more akin to the EU, another political entity constituted by many nations.

  148. Johann says:
    @Miro23

    The US has not had democracy for a very long time. The US Supreme Court has usurped the democratic principle totally. Local governments have degenerated into beggars who prostate themselves before the US Treasury. The local school boards and teacher’s unions are infested with slaves of the central government which guarantees their pensions . Local governments used to control whether gambling, boozing, prostitution, pornographers would be allowed within their voting districts. The Supreme Court destroyed that entirely. Now every area is controlled by the morality of Harvard whores. Solznetsyn once observed that the USA was not very much different than the old USSR and he was right. He once admired the local town control of Vermont where he lived for awhile but nodays Vermont is the base or Bernie Sanders Marxism. The only true democracy he found was Switzerland which is a Confederacy of Cantons .

    • Replies: @Miro23
  149. TTSSYF says:
    @Realist

    If it’s all genetics and one is no more responsible for what they do anymore than a bee is a genius for building a hive, then why do we even bother with laws, trials, and verdicts? Why do businesses have rules for employees? Why do parents scold their children or try to socialize them? Why was Bundy held accountable and put to death? By your “logic” (more like belief system), he just couldn’t help himself.

    • Replies: @Realist
  150. @Thomm

    The Alt Right is a worldview that is openly hostile to homos…which is why it is pro-Christian anti-homo Russia…

    If Modi is the Hindu version of the Alt Right….then I am very confident that Hindu India will continue it’s viciously anti-homo policies….

    One of the main reasons that the Democratic Party and Corporate Oligarchs want to st0mp the Alt Right out of existence is because The Alt Right has a anti-homo core to it…..

    One way to think of Charlottesville:Heterosexual WORKING CLLASS NATIVE BORN WHITE MALES versus the PEDERAST HOMOSEXUAL ANTIFA….

    • Replies: @Thomm
  151. Rurik says:
    @ken

    Or ‘ya know what’, I’ve never been buggered, I think I’ll try it’.”

    The choice comes into play when the man who has these thoughts decides to act on them.

    My point is that a straight man never has these thoughts.

    And that proves that homosexuals have faulty ‘wiring’, or were subject to a horrific psychosexual trauma of some kind during their childhood. Thereby subverting their healthy sense of identity. (all the more reason to put down the monsters who abuse children, because these fiends are not just using children for their depraved amusement, but are causing irreparable damage to the souls of those little ones).

    I once watched a video from Iran where a child molester was impaled for his crimes. Perhaps a little barbaric, but far less so than the degenerate West today, where they’re given a slap on the wrist, if that. Impaling seems a fair punishment for such things.

    But the point is, as I said, that a straight man doesn’t wake up one day and decide he’d like to experiment with the homosexual lifestyle. That’s preposterous. Most homosexuals are born with that tragic affliction.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  152. Surprise Pat, nothing new here. Biologic Predeterminism.
    Genes and DNA all the way.
    Free will is but an illusion…you have NO choices.
    Ergo, no sin.

    • Replies: @Realist
  153. According to Tucker Carlson last night:Beto out…..BUTTPLUGS are in for the Democratic Party POTUS Candidates…..Will Pete Buttplug force buttplugs on all the Muslim Bakers in Dearborn?

  154. Rurik says:
    @Realist

    If you need religion to provide a moral compass you are truly a loser.

    they’re argument seems to be that without the fear of God, people would start killing each other and raping and robbing their neighbors on sight.

    It makes you wonder what kind of temptations a religious zealot suppresses.

    ….personal liberty, scientific method, engineering,…

    It is ridiculous that you give religion credit for science or personal liberty. Religion has done more to try to discredit science than any other effort to squelch the truth. Religion’s purpose is to control people…. not provide liberty.

    I thought the same thing.

    Religion has suppressed science for centuries. When it wasn’t busy suppressing individual freedoms and philosophic inquiries into our existence. The Enlightenment came ab0ut precisely because men were able to forgo the religious strictures against free-thinking.

    But meanwhile you go ahead and be happy in your deliberate ignorance.

    Ignorance is what religion thrives on. Those that need the fear of the devil are morally weak.

    there is irony in a devout person projecting about “deliberate ignorance”.

    Ask him how old the world is, or for how long have humans been around.

    Or, just ask him to reconcile the two Testaments of the Holy Bible, when the adherents to one (the Old Testament), consider the worst person to have ever lived, to be Jesus Christ- whose eternal fate is to boil in excrement in Hell, whereas the adherents to the New Testament, consider Jesus to be their God, the perfect, and divine person.

    Isn’t there an irreconcilable rift between those two books vis-à-vis Jesus Christ, of the Holy and infallible Bible, the very word of God itself?

    When Christians run into something that’s inconvenient to their narrative and world view, they simply rationalize it away, and cling to their deliberate ignorance, as a ‘safe place’.

    I like Christians. Indeed, love many of them. Family and friends and such. But this is the thing..

    their leaders are corrupt (often sodomites themselves), and their efforts to defend their way of life are pathetically doomed to fail, every time. Because they (stupidly) continue to cling to scripture as an argument, as if we still lived in the Byzantium age.

    Arguing against homosexual ‘marriage’, they flip thought the Bible and point to some verse, and say ‘It’s right here!’. As if the secular world considers the scriptures as anything more than some quaint, if poetic folklore. And yet in their self-imposed myopia, they can’t see their own inevitable defeat, every time. Which is one reason I get so exasperated with them, because I’m tired of them losing, always, every single time.

    Because they just don’t get it.

    Scripture isn’t a sound argument, except to other Christians. It can mean nothing (or worse) to adherents of all the other religions. It means nothing to atheists or agnostics or to most people on this planet. And yet they pretend to themselves that it has merit beyond their narrow circles of like-minded people. And then set about losing every court battle.

    The Boy Scouts of America now allows openly homosexual men as troop leaders. (for Christ’s sake!)

    What’s left? That’s’ the ultimate capitulation.

    So they really must learn to do some soul-searching and realize that there is a world outside their pious little circles. And if you’re going to fight the culture wars, you can’t do it with two thousand year old arguments based on fairytales and delusions.

    You have to use hard science and secular reasoning if you’re going to argue for allowing Christmas carols being sung by third graders in your local communities, against the Jewish supremacists that are eviscerating your heritage and culture in the court rooms, and banning nativity scenes at the local town square.

    I’m on the side of the Christmas carols, and the prohibitions against sodomites taking the Boy Scouts out on camping trips. But I can’t help them if their too deluded and deliberately, obstinately obtuse to help themselves.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Republic
  155. Miro23 says:
    @Johann

    To make this work, 85%+ of taxation needs to be raised and spent locally. Counties and States raise taxes for their own schools, healthcare, policing etc. with citizens taking responsibility and voting issue by issue.

    If Washington wants to stop it then they can send in Homeland (Imperial) Security, and explain that all the citizens of Vermont (?) are actually terrorists.

  156. Surely, a gay guy named Buttigieg!!! And running for president? Maybe God made him that way as a joke?

    • Replies: @Republic
  157. Realist says:

    they’re argument seems to be that without the fear of God, people would start killing each other and raping and robbing their neighbors on sight.

    It makes you wonder what kind of temptations a religious zealot suppresses.

    What the hell another voice of reason? You better run we’re having an inquisition here.

    I am not religious, if that’s not obvious, but I have never wanted to kill someone, rob or rape my neighbors or anyone else. This is not out of fear, but out of the rational felling that I should not do to others, what I would not want done to me or my loved ones.

    I agree with your comments. I enjoy Christian holidays….not because of religion, but because it brings family and friends together for a joyous, loving time.

    • Replies: @Realist
    , @Rurik
  158. Thomm says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    No. For one thing, the ‘alt-right’ is really a paleo-left, due to its left-wing economic views.

    Furthermore, the fact that White Trashionalists are about 40% gay is no secret. Many of them openly say that they would rather have sex with a white man than a black woman, simply because race trumps sexual orientation. The entire ideology is over 99% male.

    The homosexual component of White Trashionalism is well-established.

  159. Realist says:
    @TTSSYF

    If it’s all genetics and one is no more responsible for what they do anymore than a bee is a genius for building a hive, then why do we even bother with laws, trials, and verdicts?

    It is true that the traits/actions of humans and all other animals are controlled by genetics. But many of these traits are diametrically opposed to the function of a rational society. While people are not responsible for their genetics, those people who commit harmful irrational acts toward others have to be seperated from society for protection of society, not for punishment or retribution

    Why was Bundy held accountable and put to death?

    Purely for retribution. There is no evidence that the death penalty deters others.

    By your “logic” (more like belief system), he just couldn’t help himself.

    Bundy clearly couldn’t help himself. He knew of the death penalty and commited the crimes any way.
    The recidivism rate is extremely high because punishment does not change who you are….criminals can’t help themselves.

    My position is logic….yours is bullshit.

    Hopefully someday genetic traits that cause harmful antisocial behavior can be corrected or eliminated. But never, forcefully, those that cause people to be different.

  160. Realist says:
    @Rurik

    My comment 159 was ment for you. I failed to hit the reply selection.

    • Replies: @Realist
  161. Realist says:
    @southphilly_cuzz

    I see you and a number of others are new here….trolls.

    Biologic Predeterminism.

    Yep, sex (male/female), eye color, hair color, skin color, body style, IQ, height, baldness and everything else.

    You should leave the middle ages behind and join the twenty-first century

    • Replies: @southphilly_cuzz
  162. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Should read ‘meant’.

  163. Most religious taboos begin as public health regulations, and the proscription against homosexuality is no exception. It is a fantastically dirty habit that shortens and diminishes the life of those who practice it, even in the age of antibiotics. Even with anti-retrovirals, the lifetime incidence of HIV is 1 in 2, 1 in 5, and 1 in 10 for Black, Hispanic and White homosexual males respectively, according to the CDC. Syphilis, largely eradicated in heterosexuals, is still a fairly common disease of gay men in this era.

    Just imagine how high their disease rate would be WITHOUT modern science. The majority of these perverts would die off within the year. There would not be enough of these creatures left to form any Gay Rights movement, LOL. How can anyone say a condition is natural, when it is statistically obvious that it is just an excrescence of modernity.

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  164. Sbaker says:
    @Realist

    To many,The Law is religion. Judges are often so full of themselves, they perceive themselves as gods.

    • Replies: @Realist
  165. Sbaker says:
    @Realist

    A genetic basis for homosexuals in a sexually dimorphic species. What an absurd statement, real tree.

    • Replies: @Realist
  166. @Miro23

    The SJW left has all the elements of religion

    1) Virtue signaling: the constantly offended are analogous to the uptight church ladies getting in your business “how dare you!”

    2) Magical thinking and a disregard for science: eg two racial groups can be separated for 60,000 years but somehow have the exact same cognitive profile; there’s no such thing as sex differences; et al

    3) Sacred objects: in the Current Year this would be the victim totem pole, with Blacks at the top.

    Haidt even commented that many left wing protests literally circle and chant, just like any other religious ceremony. As Haidt noted, religion “binds and blinds” and “you can’t think rationally about something when you make it sacred.” See liberals and HBD/Black IQ.

    What makes the current movement more destructive is the migrant crisis. Religions come and go, but the genes of low IQ migrants stay. If Western countries were still projected to be 95% White over the next 50 years the current religious fervor of the West wouldn’t bother me so much. I’d just hole down and wait for it to pass.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Miro23
  167. Republic says:
    @Rurik

    What’s left? That’s’ the ultimate capitulation.

    Weimarian degeneracy still has many things left which have not yet been implemented, but anybody with a bit of imagination can predict what those are.

    Possibly what Jimmy Saville did may come to be socially acceptable in the coming years.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  168. Republic says:
    @the cleaner

    For sure it was not a joke, he was selected by the oligarchs for his rapid rise, very similar to the sudden rise of Obama.

  169. Realist says:
    @Sbaker

    To many,The Law is religion. Judges are often so full of themselves, they perceive themselves as gods.

    Perhaps, but it shouldn’t be that way.

  170. Realist says:
    @Sbaker

    A genetic basis for homosexuals in a sexually dimorphic species. What an absurd statement, real tree.

    You’re the one that made it.

  171. Realist says:
    @Realist

    Should read ‘rational feeling’…

  172. Sbaker says:
    @m.a kaiser

    People have no idea how male homos transmit so many diseases. Per capita, male queers are the #1 vector for the spread of infectious diseases by a wide margin. Fecal-oral transmission is quite common in the “gay” community. Thanks to Hollywood, the ignorant are commonly misled and easily boofed. There is nothing gay about this most disgusting of lifestyles.

  173. Miro23 says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    The SJW left has all the elements of religion

    This is what gives it it’s power. SJW’s don’t spend time self questioning. They’re “Soldiers of the Lord” not “Doubting Thomas’ ”

    And Nationalism isn’t much different.

    WW2 wasn’t so much an ideological war of German National Socialism vs Russian Bolshevism. It was an atavistic thing of ethnic Germanics vs. ethnic Slavs. Russians dedicated their massive effort to defend Mother Russia, not International Jewish Bolshevism.

    Stalin knew this, and liquidated the Bolshevik Jews (1938) prior to the war – while converting himself into the most unlikely Russian nationalist.

    And thoughtful George Orwell came to the same conclusion:

    “…the spiritual need for patriotism and the military values, for which, however little the boiled rabbits of the Left may like them, no substitute has yet been found.”

    Essay 1940 – “My Country Right or Left”

  174. @Realist

    Middle Ages? Spinoza was 17th Century? That be Renaissance misnomer Realist.
    But James Watson and Francis Crick 20th for that double helix.
    Homosexuality isn’t purely genetic as you’ve said, nothing quite fits.
    Yet!
    Perchance an in utero epigenetic mutation stimulus
    during early brain development.
    Not from eating lead based paint chips, potty training or an abusive parent.
    “Baby, I was born this way.” Lady Gaga
    SNPs will make them twisted sodomites.
    Those nucleic acid breaks…Good Night!

    • Replies: @Realist
  175. Rurik says:
    @Realist

    I enjoy Christian holidays….not because of religion, but because it brings family and friends together for a joyous, loving time.

    yep

    And the cathedrals are all treasured monuments to our collective heritage, and should be honored and protected as such. Just as the traditions of Christianity are our heritage.

    Christianity hasn’t lost all it’s value, and serves a lot of people well enough. But its leadership is as rotten and corrupted as anything can get. Like the governments of the Western world. They serve the (((enemies))) of the flock or citizenry respectively.

    Macron isn’t just an enemy of Christianity, he’s an (the main today) enemy of France and the French people.

    It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if a priest was bribed to burn down Notre Dame cathedral.

    In fact, I’d consider that to be a perfect metaphor for our age.

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  176. Rurik says:
    @Republic

    Weimarian degeneracy still has many things left which have not yet been implemented, but anybody with a bit of imagination can predict what those are.

    Possibly what Jimmy Saville did may come to be socially acceptable in the coming years.

    it seems the entire athletic dept. and university administration of Penn State was aware of Jerry Sandusky’s serial abominations, and yet looked the other way.

    Just like the BBC and Jimmy Saville. Or a thousand other pedophiles in the British aristocracy and Hollywood power structure.

    When the Boy Scouts of America allow openly homosexual men to act as role models for their Christian boys, then you know the rot has metastasized, and there’s not much left to save.

    And all of that is because of the hierarchical nature of the Christian church, where the guy at the top can be bribed or blackmailed into turning the whole institution over to the devil himself, if only there are enough shekels. And with the ((Fed)), there certainly are enough shekels to corrupt any and every man or woman at the top of our institutions.

    Just look at the treasonous scum we had (and have!) running the CIA and FBI. Not to mention the churches and all other institutions of the dying ((murdered)) West.

  177. Thinker says:

    America will be the laughing stock of the world if Buttfuck ever becomes president. No country outside the western world will give us any respect, esp. the Muslim countries.

    Meanwhile, the WH will turn into Playboy mansion for gays, with homos running amok in their thongs and a steady stream of little boys visiting on their school “field trips”.

    90% of child molestors are either gay or bisexual. Homos are a bunch of degenerate sex obsessed pedophiles, it’s how they grow their potential pool of sex partners – got to start them young, like liberals with education. Not only are they teaching our kids in HS that homosexuality is normal, but they are now teaching Kindergarteners gender is a choice.

    Forget conversion therapy, what these degenerates need is a mass lobotomy! Only then will America’s children grow up safe from these degenerate sickfucks. Until then, mothers need to wake the hell up and stop sending their boys alone into any public restroom or locker room, no place is safe, not the cinema, restaurants, the gym, not even public library, and esp. not any public pool locker room.

  178. Thinker says:
    @Libtard is redundant

    I’m waiting for the real skeletons to fall out of Mayor Buttplug’s closet, like all the underage boys he’s molested, like Seattle’s libtard ex-mayor Ed Murray.

    With homos, it’s always just a matter of time. They’ve all done it and they know it.

    If Buttfuck wins nomination, you know msm will do their best to ignore any and all allegations against him. The Seattle Times sat on Ed Murray’s crime for well over two decades until the 3rd and 4th men came out, all provided uncorroborated accusations against him that matched up, including graphic physical descriptions. And even then, they probably would’ve kept suppressing it if it weren’t for the fact that all 4 of his accusers were black men. Then these lying scumbag liberals had a dilemma, who’s higher on the victimhood totempole? The only reason they printed the story was because they were afraid of being accused of racism, otherwise they would’ve kept protecting Ed Pedo Murray to his grave. If Buttfuck’s pedo victims are white, you can forget it, too bad for them, we’ll never hear about it.

  179. Well now let’s see here. . .

    If God made Mayor Buttercheeks “gay,” He also made “gays” die at an average age of 50. God
    also turned their “community” into one of the most effective disease vectors known to man,
    rivaling the mosquito, though without the aesthetic appeal of the mosquito. God also showed
    “gays” the best ways to depress their immune systems, through industrial strength
    promiscuity, which in itself is highly indicative of a pathological inability ever to be
    satisfied – or to find “love” in the embrace of the ever-elusive Mr. Rightbutt. God made
    fully 40% of all pedophilial depredations *pederastic* depredations, despite the frolicsome
    fraternity constituting only 2% of the population. Industrial strength indeed.

    God also made “homophobes,” a homo-neologism I myself would sport with pride except that I
    decline to allow myself to be defined in relation to someone else’s perverted pseudo-sexual
    activity.

    Perhaps it was Satan who made Mayor B. after all; and God made “homophobes” as the divine
    and necessary antidote to this. . .well, abomination. I suspect God prefers “homophobes” to
    homos anyway. He made so many more of them.

  180. Anon[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bliss

    Reincarnation in Matthew 17:3—”Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.”

    Tada!

  181. Anonymous[570] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    The traditions of Christianity are our heritage, if you’re a Jew.

    For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 1 Corinthians 5:7

    Happy Passover, Schlomo!

  182. Miro23 says:

    I’m not sure about PJ Media, but they’re running an excellent article by Richard Fernandez: “How Long before the Fate of Benedict’s Church is the Fate of the West?”

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/the-three-colors-of-martyrdom/

  183. dfordoom says: • Website
    @KenH

    Buttigieg is saying in religious terms that being homosexual is genetic and not a life choice….which is true.

    I’m not so sure about that.

    We know that homosexuality is entirely genetic because the homosexual lobby tells us it’s genetic. And if we know what’s good for us we won’t ask any awkward questions.

  184. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TTSSYF

    So, since the percentage of homosexuals in our society remains relatively constant

    Does it remain relatively constant? Do we know that for a fact? Lots of statistics get quoted on this subject but are any of them reliable? Surveys on sexual behaviour are largely worthless since it’s one of those subjects about which people are rarely truthful.

    Do we have even the faintest idea how common homosexuality was prior to the 20th century? Or how common it was in other cultures?

    Is it possible that homosexuality is at least partly cultural? Merely a fashion, like mutilating oneself with tattoos and piercings because it’s the latest fad with the cool kids.

    Would people actually engage in bizarre and unhealthy sexual behaviours merely to be fashionable? Of course they would. We live in a world where people will have their own genitals mutilated because it’s trendy to be trans.

  185. anon[250] • Disclaimer says:

    South Bend has a population of only 100,000

    why is this clown being taken seriously as a Presidential candidate?

    maybe i should run too?

  186. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Realist

    Why would someone choose a life style that would cause them to be ostracized???

    Why would people choose to destroy themselves with drink or drugs?

    Or are you going to argue that those things are genetic as well?

    Maybe all behaviour is genetic. Why should we imprison people for being burglars when they were born that way? Why should we persecute serial killers if they were born that way?

    many of us believe it is not genetic but a choice…or, perhaps more accurately, a sexual indulgence.

    Yes, the many people you are referring to believe the earth is 6000 years old.

    Rubbish. It has nothing to do with religion. I’m an atheist and I’m very sceptical of claims that homosexuality is exclusively or even mostly genetic.

  187. dfordoom says: • Website
    @TomSchmidt

    The average estimate of the base rate of male homosexuality is around 4 percent of the general population.

    It always used to be considered to be 1 or at most 2 percent. Now it’s 4 percent?

    Sounds more and more like a cultural trend.

    Or perhaps 4 percent claim to be homosexual even though they aren’t because it’s fashionable to do so?

  188. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Robert Dolan

    I don’t think America is ready for President Buttplug.

    You get the leaders you deserve. Maybe he’s just what America deserves.

    Liberals will be overjoyed at the prospect of the first male First Lady in the White House.

  189. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Rurik

    But the point is, as I said, that a straight man doesn’t wake up one day and decide he’d like to experiment with the homosexual lifestyle. That’s preposterous.

    Most straight men would not do such a thing. But can you be sure that a minority would not? A minority who were weak and self-indulgent, or depressed and confused, or simply desperate for acceptance and social status?

    The possibility that a minority of heterosexual men might be sufficiently vulnerable or sufficiently foolish to do so is why it was a much better idea to keep homosexuals in the closet where they had fewer opportunities for proselytising or for predation.

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