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In a rebuke bordering on national insult Sunday, Emmanuel Macron retorted to Donald Trump’s calling himself a nationalist.

“Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism; nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.”

As for Trump’s policy of “America first,” Macron trashed such atavistic thinking in this new age: “By saying we put ourselves first and the others don’t matter, we erase what a nation holds dearest, what gives it life, what makes it great and what is essential: its moral values.”

Though he is being hailed as Europe’s new anti-Trump leader who will stand up for transnationalism and globalism, Macron reveals his ignorance of America.

Trump’s ideas are not ideological but rooted in our country’s history.

America was born between the end of the French and Indian War, the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and the ratification of the Constitution in 1788. Both the general who led us in the Revolution and the author of that declaration became president. Both put America first. And both counseled their countrymen to avoid “entangling” or “permanent” alliances with any other nation, as we did for 160 years.

Were George Washington and Thomas Jefferson lacking in patriotism?

When Woodrow Wilson, after being re-elected in 1916 on the slogan “He Kept Us Out of War,” took us into World War I, he did so as an “associate,” not as an Allied power. U.S. troops fought under U.S. command.

After that war, the U.S. Senate rejected an alliance with France. Under Franklin Roosevelt, Congress formally voted for neutrality in any future European war.

The U.S. emerged from World War II as the least bloodied and least damaged nation because we remained out of the war for more than two years after it had begun.

We did not invade France until four years after France was occupied, the British had been thrown off the Continent, and Josef Stalin’s Soviet Union had been fighting and dying for three years.

The leaders who kept us out of the two world wars as long as they did — did they not serve our nation well, when America’s total losses were just over 500,000 dead, compared with the millions other nations lost?

At the Armistice Day ceremony, Macron declared, “By saying we put ourselves first and the others don’t matter, we erase what a nation holds dearest … its moral values.”

But Trump did not say that other countries don’t matter. He only said we should put our own country first.

What country does Emmanuel Macron put first?

Or does the president of France see himself as a citizen of the world with responsibility for all of Europe and all of mankind?

ORDER IT NOW

Charles de Gaulle was perhaps the greatest French patriot in the 20th century. Yet he spoke of a Europe of nation-states, built a national nuclear arsenal, ordered NATO out of France in 1966, and, in Montreal in 1967, declared, “Long live a free Quebec” — inciting French Canadians to rise up against “les Anglo-Saxons” and create their own nation.

Was de Gaulle lacking in patriotism?

By declaring American nationalists anti-patriotic, Macron has asserted a claim to the soon-to-be-vacant chair of Angela Merkel.

But is Macron really addressing the realities of the new Europe and world in which we now live, or is he simply assuming a heroic liberal posture to win the applause of Western corporate and media elites?

The realities: In Britain, Scots are seeking secession, and the English have voted to get out of the European Union. Many Basques and Catalans wish to secede from Spain. Czechs and Slovaks have split the blanket and parted ways.

Anti-EU sentiment is rampant in populist-dominated Italy.

A nationalism their peoples regard as deeply patriotic has triumphed in Poland and Hungary and is making gains even in Germany.

The leaders of the world’s three greatest military powers — Trump in the U.S., Vladimir Putin in Russia and Xi Jinping in China — are all nationalists.

Turkish nationalist Recep Tayyip Erdogan rules in Ankara, Hindu nationalist Narendra Modi in India. Jair Bolsonaro, a Trumpian nationalist, is the incoming president of Brazil. Is not Benjamin Netanyahu an Israeli nationalist?

In France, a poll of voters last week showed that Marine Le Pen’s renamed party, Rassemblement National, has moved ahead of Macron’s party for the May 2019 European Parliament elections.

If there is a valid criticism of Trump’s foreign policy, it is not that he has failed to recognize the new realities of the 21st century but that he has not moved expeditiously to dissolve old alliances that put America at risk of war in faraway lands where no vital U.S. interests exist.

Why are we still committed to fight for a South Korea far richer and more populous than a nuclear-armed North? Why are U.S. planes and ships still bumping into Russian planes and ships in the Baltic and Black seas?

Why are we still involved in the half-dozen wars into which Bush II and Barack Obama got us in the Middle East?

Why do we not have the “America first” foreign policy we voted for?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Rational says:

    MACRON = THE MOUTHPIECE OF THE GLOBALISTS.

    Thanks, Sir.

    Macron is owned and operated by the Judaists and the globalists. They told him to bark first, think later.

    Macron must be getting deranged to utter idiotic oxymorons like this:

    “Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism; nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism.”

    Macron’s saying is as stupid as saying spaghetti is the exact opposite of pasta. Spaghetti is a betrayal of pasta.

    Or truth is the opposite of correct.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  2. MEexpert says:

    Why are we still involved in the half-dozen wars into which Bush II and Barack Obama got us in the Middle East?

    Two years into Trump’s presidency these wars still rage on. They are now Trump’s wars. He owns them lock, stock and barrel. Trump is owned by the Saudis and the Jews, both domestic and foreign. Which of Trump’s policies hold America first?

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  3. Blubb says:

    The narrative that nationalism is somehow racist has been peddled in Europe at least as far back as the late 80s. I remember a speech by former German president (different to the chancellor, which is the position Merkel holds) Richard von Weizäcker in which he asserted that patriotism is fine, but nationalism is looking down on other nations.

    It is utterly foolish, of course, but what people learn in school they often hold to be gospel – literally.

    • Replies: @RVBlake
  4. Realist says:

    Macron is moron.

    Perhaps one day the French and the rest of Europe will wise up.

    Why do we not have the “America first” foreign policy we voted for?

    I believe Trump is part of the Deep State….how else to explain his appointments and actions?

  5. RVBlake says:
    @Blubb

    People confuse “nationalism” with “jingoism” and “chauvinism.”

  6. Pat, do cut to the chase and leave off of your senior citizen niceties!

    Who is allowing his country’s sovereignty to be corrupted by foreign infil-traitors from Tel Aviv – is it Macron or drumpf?

    At least the French don’t refer to Macron as their “first Israeli president”.

    However, we’re still stuck with the occupation by the witless jared on this side of the pond. The only thing we are left is to determine whether to declare “ouch!” or “oy vey!”.

  7. Who cares what Macron thinks. France is done anyway.

    Here are the facts:

    1. At least 20% of births in France are to Muslims – probably a bit more
    2. Likely 30% of births in France are to non-Whites – if not a bit more
    3. Differing birthrates more or less guarantee that Muslim will account for at least ~25% to 30% of births in a decade or two with non-Whites growing to ~35% to 40% of births. If the birthrates of Muslims and Whites don’t coalesce, that figure will continue to grow
    4. Even with “low” immigration, France’s Muslim and African share of the young population – you know, the people who have kids and blow stuff up – will increase by ~0.5% to 1.0% a year.

    Put all of this together, here’s what you get. France’s under-40 population will be ~30% Muslim and 40% non-White in 20 years and growing. Even if you stopped immigration tomorrow, the Muslim share of the under 40 population would be ~20% with non-Whites clocking in ~30% – again, with both of those figures growing. You can more or less double those figures for the big cities.

    Countries that have Muslim and sub-saharan African populations of 35% don’t function well, if at all. Muslims will push for more control. Either the native France will accede or there will be constant, low-level violence as the Muslims and the native French vie for control of the streets.

    Even if the native French somehow managed to control the Muslims and Africans, they’ll need to turn France into a military state that would make the Apartheid in South Africa look gentle and open to keep that control.

    France is finished.

    (Of course, I could be wrong. I mean, look at all the example of Middle East Muslims living in harmony with non-Muslims, especially once they’re reached a size portion of the population. Of wait, nevermind.)

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  8. AWM says:

    It is seriously past time to dump Europe. The Japanese make better cars anyway.
    Socialists, Communists, Marxists, Islamacists destroy everything they touch.
    Likewise the Globalists. They are in their death throes and don’t even know it.

    Where do we go from here, no one has any idea, but one thing is for sure, it won’t be the New World Order.

  9. the current “America First” policy is really a “Better Check with America First” warning lest ye also be listed as an unfriendly nation requiring sanctions. the current “America First” policy is the same old we’ve got the most military might thus “America is in charge of the world’ …. here,there and everywhere.

  10. Stick says:

    Kind of funny that the Patriot Macron is looking for an Army of Europeans paid for by some other Europeans. Jeebus, France is a joke.

  11. A patriot is someone who supports the troops protecting other country’s borders. (G00d.)

    A nationalist is someone who supports the troops protecting his own country’s borders. (Bad!)

    • LOL: RadicalCenter
  12. The leaders who kept us out of the two world wars as long as they did — did they not serve our nation well, when America’s total losses were just over 500,000 dead, compared with the millions other nations lost?

    Pat seems to be hedging himself here, as, well, his book is right over there to the right. I don’t want to argue history with an erudite guy like Mr. Buchanan (plus, he’s not reading this), but we could argue that we shouldn’t have been involved in either World War, though I’d put WWI (the Great War) as the better example of the two.

    I really can’t top “Rational”‘s comment (#1) in retort to this idiot Macron. These politicians will just say anything that involves a few “big words”, “-isms” for instance, that sound like something that should be in a speech, even if its very obviously complete bullshit. The Lyin’ Press is too onboard with the narrative, and often times, just plain too stupid, to call them out on this.

    I just wonder how this guy did on his SATs. They have that analogy section – maybe they don’t have that in France.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  13. @Rational

    Mr. Rational, I want to write a post on this Macron guy in my blog. I could not think of a better way of showing his stupidity wrt his statement, than yours. May I include the above?

    • Replies: @Rational
  14. Rurik says:

    Italy’s nationalist vs. France’s soy boy Zionist cum rag

  15. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Right, Trump is no patriot. But Bush and Obama are. You see, they were not petty with national self-interest. They CARED about the world and, in that spirit, did wonders for Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc.

  16. Rational says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes, Mr. Achmed E. Newman, you can. Thanks.

  17. is ZIONISM Nationalism? Racial, Religious Supreme Nationalism??? Then Israel has no need to exist??

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  18. JLK says:

    Macron isn’t making a lot of sense here. Nationalism and patriotism don’t mean the same thing but are closely related. The first is a policy term, the second an instrument to mobilize the masses.

  19. @Rurik

    Brilliant, as usual.

    A picture may be worth a thousand words, but the two you present represent the fork in the millennial road.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  20. Herald says:

    “Why do we not have the ‘America first’ foreign policy we voted for.” The answer is quite simple Mr Buchanan, all you have to do is read Philip Giraldi’s latest article here on Unz. Mystery solved so easily.

  21. ‘Is not Benjamin Netanyahu an Israeli nationalist?’

    Netanyahu is a Jewish nationalist. There’s certainly no reason to think he cares at all about the Christian and Muslim inhabitants of the lands he rules.

  22. Clyde says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I really can’t top “Rational”‘s comment (#1) in retort to this idiot Macron. These politicians will just say anything that involves a few “big words”, “-isms” for instance, that sound like something that should be in a speech, even if its very obviously complete bullshit.

    That’s all Macron is doing. Putting out sound bites that he thinks will resonate with the French. Yes it sounds idiotic to us but he calculates many French will get tingles from it. I like Trump but he is doing the same…casting bread on the waters with his tweets. Pols been doing this forever.

  23. French people have chosen the president they deserved. How sad and hard to understand that such a great nation is slowly becoming a pariah.

  24. To the Soviet Union “nationalism” was a 4-letter word, precisely because Moscow didn’t want the citizens of its 15 republics (possibly excepting Russia, as long as they weren’t too overt) to feel TOO Ukrainian, Armenian, Georgian, Latvian, Lithuanian, etc.

    Something to think about.

    I don’t suppose it’s worth pointing out these ridiculously absurd realities, but I will….

    The USA isn’t IN the European Union. Whatever the mood of the American people, or a proportion of the American people, or even just the American president, might be towards their own country–call it “patriotism”, call it “nationalism”, call it “enlightened self-interest”, call it COMMON SENSE, for Pete’s sake–is their own business. If Europeans don’t find…for their own reasons…that mood to be quite appropriate or convenient to THEIR peculiar geopolitical house-of-cards, so what? Nobody’s forcing them to think one way or another. How any American happens to think about his country can’t be “treason” to Europe. America doesn’t belong to Europe. (I can’t help thinking of how the Soviet Union would have termed any spark of nationalism in one of its republics “treason” to the USSR; the irony of the French president so terming Trump’s nationalism is stratospheric.)

    When Trump talks “nationalism”, he simply means that his job as president is putting the interests of his constituency…which happens to be all Americans…first.

    To some that’s criminal. Not because it is, but because their drive to destroy this president needs it to be.

    What any American thinks about his own country can never be “treason” to a foreign state. Monsieur Macron appears to be in need of a basic civics course.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  25. Rurik says:
    @Liberty Mike

    thanks Mike

    from the article

    At the Armistice Day ceremony, Macron declared, “By saying we put ourselves first and the others don’t matter, we erase what a nation holds dearest … its moral values.”

    Ironic that the president of France could invoke moral values on the anniversary of France’s participation with the treachery, betrayal, starvation and depraved subjugation of a Germany that had honorably laid down its arms for peace, only to have France and others double-cross her and starve her into national slavery and destitution.

    France’s moral values are the morality of an assassin in the night. Made only worse so by its elites commitment to now betraying the French people, and dooming them to a dystopian hell on earth of ‘diversity and multicultural’ genocide.

    Macron lecturing about France’s morality on Armistice Day, is like Bernie Madoff lecturing about honesty.

    At the Armistice Day ceremony, Macron declared, “By saying we put ourselves first and the others don’t matter, we erase what a nation holds dearest … its moral values.”

    The rancid thing about his ‘virtue’ posturing to his ((owners)), is that as he’s selling out France to its enemies, he is doing so for his own, personal advantage. He is putting Macron first, while betraying the French people, and yet has the gall to hector Trump and nationalists for their selfishness.

    Who is more selfish than leaders who betray their nations and people to their enemies, for personal gain?

    Who is more selfish than Tony Blair?

    Who is more selfish than Hillary Clinton?

    Nationalists are at least looking out for their nations, and the hopes and aspirations of their children and neighbors and countrymen. While scumfucks like Macron and Merkel are only looking out for Macron and Merkel, while selling out their nations and people to the ((highest bidder)).

    And then these treacherous little lickspittles of Zion hector the rest of us for our lack of morality, as they collect their thirty pieces of silver from the devil itself.

    I really do hope there is a hell. And that it’s as bad as they say it is.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  26. @MEexpert

    The Deep State has created many problems for Trump. They want the wars to continue, and Trump is smart enough to understand that an announcement of a unilateral pull-out would be like signing his death warrant. Instead, he has chosen to create chaos in other areas.
    For example, all of the talking heads continue to blather on about North Korea’s nuclear program. Yet South Korea doesn’t seem to have a problem with it, and Trump has loosened the leash on SK. NK’s position hasn’t changed from the 50s: the US has to leave the Korean peninsula and take its military hardware with it. If the Koreans can agree on a peace plan, who is the US to oppose it? That seems to be where Trump is headed. His continual bashing NATO, the Deep State globalist project, will hopefully lead to its breakup, which in turn will make normalizing relations with Russia easier.

    I know he’s got a problem with Israel, but what President has openly questioned whether they are really interested in peace? In moving the Embassy to Jerusalem, it effectively recognizes it as the capital. So, now the question for Bibi is, OK, you’ve got Jerusalem, what excuse do you have to not have peacer
    The Iran nuclear deal was “bad” for the US, because Iran was producing radio-isotopes used in medicine, much cheaper than the US. Sanctions stop the sale of those radio-isotopes and creates a market for the US produced ones. Even Trump must know that Iran’s IAEA unannounced, go anywhere, anytime, inspections have turned up zilch proof of a weapons program, which by the way was forbidden by Khomeini way back in the 80s.
    Many issues with Trump, to be sure, but it took Nixon 3 years to get out of Viet Nam alone, and the US had been there for “only” 10 years. It’s 17 and counting for Afghanistan, the CIA’s poppy shop, and 15 for Iraq, where they’ve been trying to keep the oil in the ground to reduce the oil glut and prop up prices. Good luck on those ones.

    • Replies: @MEexpert
  27. @Rurik

    Just to be a nitpicker (for a change), Rurik, that anniversary 3 days back was 100 years after the Armistice, not the actual Versailles peace treaty drawn up early in 1919. I didn’t let that detract from your good comments though.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  28. @Kenneth M Sears

    Very good way to put it, Mr. Sears. Our nationalism is absolutely none of Europe’s business.

  29. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    All parties in this business seem to be confused. Trump uses “nationalism” as a counter to “globalism.” What he really means is patriotism. Patriotism is the love of one’s own people and country. Nationalism is an undesirable form of aggression, as exemplified by the War to Prevent Southern Independence and all parties in WW I.

  30. So Macron thinks putting one’s own nation first is immoral.

    How does he intend to market this governing philosophy to the French people when he is up for reelection. Will his campaign slogan be “France Second!,” or “Make France Second-Rate Again.” Good luck with that.

    Even a demoralized, cucked nation like France presumably has enough residual self-respect to reject an openly anti-French candidate.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  31. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    look at all the example of Middle East Muslims living in harmony with non-Muslims, especially once they’re reached a size portion of the population.

    Lebanon would seem to be a textbook example of a Muslim demographic tipping point. Through the 1950′s it had a Christian majority and was a stable, prosperous Western-oriented nation. Beirut was considered the “Paris of the Middle East.” Higher Muslim fertility put them into the majority in the 1970′s and the rest is history, as they say.

  32. @Anonymous

    Agreed, but what happens when one’s own people and country are no longer the same thing? What word do you use to express love of your people and a desire for them to have self-rule, i.e. my situation?

  33. Anon[815] • Disclaimer says:

    Says the guy who claimed France didn’t even exist (have a culture). The guy is a weak, creepy loser who’s trying to deflect his own people’s outrage against the globalists like himself onto the people pointing out their failures. Why trust a man so weak he married his grandma?

  34. Rurik says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    that anniversary 3 days back was 100 years after the Armistice, not the actual Versailles peace treaty

    yea, I know, but the Armistice was the Satanic act of treachery that led to the betrayal and starvation of Germany, which led to the demonic Treaty of Versailles – which led to the enslavement and cruel subjugation of Germany under ((Weimar)).

    Sort of like 9/11 was the modern version of the Armistice- act of treachery- that has led to the 21st century’s wars for Israel.

    And I just wanted to rhetorically puke on all those smug, sanctimonious assholes preening about how noble they all are, with the blood of scores of millions on their feculent hands.

  35. The French national anthem begins,, “Allons enfant de la patria….” (Come children of the country…)
    It does not say, “Come children of the world….”

  36. MEexpert says:
    @Curmudgeon

    The Iran nuclear deal was “bad” for the US, because Iran was producing radio-isotopes used in medicine, much cheaper than the US. Sanctions stop the sale of those radio-isotopes and creates a market for the US produced ones.

    I agree with most of your analysis of the situation but what happened to free trade? If the US wanted to compete with Iran then she should reduce prices to produce those isotopes. Imposing sanctions and punish the civilian population is not the way to compete in the free market.

    Granted, Trump inherited most of the wars but where does it say that he has to escalate them, which he has done in the case of Syria and Yemen. His logic in declaring the victims of Yemen war as terrorists is right out of Israeli handbook. Israel kills Palestinians and calls them terrorists. Hezbollah, a Lebanese resistance organization is labeled terrorist organization for resisting Israeli aggression against its country.

    Trump fires 73 missiles at Syria for a handful of children killed in a false flag gas attack, because he felt sorry for them but continues to help Saudi coalition bomb and starve hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  37. bjondo says:

    Macron, Sarkozy and Bernard henri levy are clowns.

    Only in the Zionized West are such taken slightly seriously.

    Maybe not seriously but are allowed to mouth.

  38. The U.S. emerged from World War II as the least bloodied and least damaged nation because we remained out of the war for more than two years after it had begun.

    We did not invade France until four years after France was occupied, the British had been thrown off the Continent, and Josef Stalin’s Soviet Union had been fighting and dying for three years.

    Why then after contributing not more than 20%, does the US claim 100% credit for winning WW 2?

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
    , @MarkinLA
  39. @Martin Lutero

    Steven Cohen,
    What is Zionism?

    A transcript:

    [MORE]

    “These days there are a lot of people who think that zionism is awful. In 1975, the UN said zionism is racism, and today, a lot of people think that Jews don’t have a right to a national movement.
    Well I don’t think that and maybe you don’t think that. Let’s talk about why.
    I’m Prof Stephen Cohen, research prof at Hebrew Union college school of Jewish social policy at the Jewish institute of religion, I’m here to talk to you today about zionism.
    As I understand zionism, and by the way I’ve studied zionism
    I’m an American Jew who made aliyeh, who moved to Israel in 1992, I spend 2/3 of my time here and the rest in Israel, I consider myself a zionist and I have since I was a teenager.
    Zionism is the national liberation movement of the jewish people.
    National
    liberation
    movement.
    First of all, zionism says that You know what, we’re a people. We’re not just a religion, we’re not a faith, we’re a people
    those who think we are a faith are influenced by western , frankly american conceptions of what it means to be jewish, but even in america and all around the world, jews regard themselves as a PEOPLE, or in Greek, an ethnos, which is a people, or in Hebrew, as am Israel, the people of israel, and as such we are a national -like group. {{or a FOLK }}
    Maybe you don’t want to use the word National, I do, but we’re national like group that has a religion. and let’s be honest, we’re about the most secular religious groups in america. we’re about as religious as our unchurched christians. so we’re a very strong group but it’s clearly — we’re strong not because of our religion, we’re strong because we see ourselves as a nation.
    And as a nation — let’s get to the second part, liberation movement, we have been oppressed! We have been without our land, we have been in foreign countries, we have been subject to lots and lots of hatred, lots and lots of antisemitism , and in the ‘30s and essentially in the ‘40s we suffered, we — hardly any jews who don’t have relatives who suffered or were killed in the holocaust because our nation was despised in europe because the Nazis were able to marshall their forces and other antisemitic forces throughout europe to try to destroy us.
    but well before that there was a movement that thought, You know what, the world can never accept the jewish nation. the world needs to see the jews as a normal nation. and a normal nation lives on its own land with its own culture and its own language , and that’s how the early zionist movement started. It had early thinkers in the 1860s in the 1840s, it had its first national congress in 1897, and then started a national movement to bring jews back to the land of israel and to found a national homeland in israel which would eventually form into a state. And that’s how we have a
    National
    Liberation
    MOVEMENT.
    Now like all movements, we had all kinds of zionisms. We had Herzlian zionism which, and here I’m reducing dozens of speeches, hundreds of pages to a few pages so theodore herzl please, i apologize, but basically herzl wanted Jews to be normal, to assimilate into the world, the world wouldn’t let that happen, and he said we’ll found this european-like country in israel.
    there are others like AhaD el Aham who said, hmm, not so sure. We should have a spiritual center but not necessarily a state.
    And then we had many, in fact the mainstream zionists, were socialists. David BenGurion, who became prime minister of israel, the leader of that party, that faction, who wanted to found a social democratic jewish state. and actually they they — he and they and his forebears succeeded.
    Um, in addition there was another movement, a minority movement, that was more militant, and believed that Jews should adopt a more militant posture towards the British and the Arabs {{and toward the Palestinians — Iron Wall; and it’s NOT a “minority movement,” it’s the movement that was precursor to Likud AND to ADL, today’s American zionists, Netanyahu, etc.}} and that movement was founded and supported by a uh a uh a famous thinker named Zev Jabotinsky. of Odessa.

    But Nevertheless, zionism had its had its, um, had its differences and it’s changed over time, and um actually not to be incomplete, the other major portion of zionism are religious zionists who have become actually even more important.
    so we have the religious zionists, the social democratic zionists, the nationalists, the more right wing zionists ___

    Now that movement like every other movement not only has diversity, but it had good points and weak points, it made for ___ achievements, it made some horrible mistakes, let’s be honest, we may disagree about what the mistakes are what the achievements are but no question that ziomism and israel made those mistakes. but one thing that all zionists agree on are these three principles:
    One, Jews are a nation;
    Two, we have to be liberated by having our own homeland and we have a right to our own homeland like other groups have rights to their homeland, and
    Three, we’re a movement, which means we’re something that incorporates lots of diversity and lots of differences, they’re deep cultural differences, political differences, religious differences, and moral differences. and I assure you there are lots of zionists with whom I deeply disagree but I can recognize that they’re zionists, and i would hope they would say the same about me.

    and now, what is left for us to agree, that jews have a right to a homeland, but we also have a responsibility and a need to argue about the future of how we relate to that OTHER nation that lives in that homeland, obviously, the Palestinians.
    and that has been THE greatest challenge to zionists over the centuries, sorry, over the decades. How do we come to grips with and live with the Palestinians who also have rights to the same land as we see as our homeland. how do these two groups come together and survive together with dignity, respect, justice and peace that’s the question that zionism will have to face — is facing right now we’ll have to face for years to come, and that’s why this is such an exciting enterprise, and I invite you to be part of that zionist enterprise with me and the millions of other zionists all over the world. {{{isn’t that a contradiction?? if zionism = Jews living in Israel, what are zionists doing “all over the world?” }}}

    thank you, I’m Dr. Stephen M Cohen, professor of Jewish social policy at Hebrew College Institute of Religion you can be in touch with me, I hope you are, which is [email protected].

    thank you very much.

    and one more thing: whether you like this video or not, i think you found this stimulating , certainly if you’re looking at me right now. and I think your family and friends will find this stimulating. So do us both a favor; do them a favor: share this video with your friends and family.

    btw — Notice Steven Cohen’s speech pattern –

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israel-wins-2018-election/#comment-2625229

  40. @Carroll Price

    Why then after contributing not more than 20%, does the US claim 100% credit for winning WW 2?

    — and ZERO accountability for the most egregious crimes against humanity against the German & other Europeans in all of modern history?

    The West’s Darkest Hour by Thomas Goodrich

    https://chechar.wordpress.com/category/thomas-goodrich/

  41. @Rurik

    My paisan. Let’s teach Salvini some more English and run him here ;)

    • Agree: Rurik
    • Replies: @americanotisrael
  42. @Hypnotoad666

    Nope, don’t think they do. President Ben-Abbes will arrive soon enough.

  43. MarkinLA says:
    @MEexpert

    If the US wanted to compete with Iran then she should reduce prices to produce those isotopes. Imposing sanctions and punish the civilian population is not the way to compete in the free market.

    Why it most certainly is. In a free market there are no rules. See what I did there?

  44. MarkinLA says:
    @Carroll Price

    Everybody does it. The Brits emphasize what they did, the Russians what they did.

  45. Dante says:
    @Rurik

    That’s a terrific photo, Soy Boy indeed

  46. @RadicalCenter

    Yes indeed, “let’s teach Salvini some more English and run him” in the U.S.

    That way, he too can sell himself off to the Israel lobby – just like his populist (“zionist”?) hero trump.

    After all, Israel controls Macron and Merkel, but not the president – right?

  47. @americanotisrael

    HaHaHa!

    Yes, and then “good Americans” can invite Salvini to the ZOA’s award of “Defender of Israel” title to trump’s voluntarily-appointed national security likudnik shill Bonkers Bolton.

    After that, they can invite Salvini to Miriam Adelson’s “Medal of Freedom” award ceremony for her efforts on behalf of non-America-First superpower Israel.

    Then, they can invite Salvini to a “MBS is America’s best friend and didn’t assassinate Khashoggi” dinner in D.C.

    Oy vey – as it is said…….

    • Replies: @heckno
  48. heckno says:
    @factsonamericanturf

    But you forgot the true celebration to which we would fete Salvini: the “I’m neutral on the Palestinian peace question’ trump annual dinner hosted by the absolutely “unbiased” actors jared kushner, greedy greeblatt and fishy friedman.

    Now, that’s a true gala.

    – Wait, we can have Salvini “stand with the IDF” at the same time – no?

    America is indeed a blessed nation.

    Just not for its own interests.

    • Replies: @simpletrumptards
  49. @heckno

    Come, come – the truly big shot, inviation-only function which Salvini must attend is the “It’s all Iran’s fault for not having nukes” dinner at the trump hotel in D.C.

    Just think about the folks that Salvini and meet and with whom he can mix – they’re all so totally “America First” – especially when it comes to going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel.

  50. @americanotisrael

    Love your screen name. Not sure why you reacted that way, though. A little humor; part of my family came to the USA from Italy, and Salvini is from that country and, thus far, a breath of fresh air on these life-or-death issues. Hence “my paisan.”

  51. Alas, one person’s “paisan” is another’s “paesan” (from the Neopolitan “compaesano” – yes?).

    Still, the only shortcut one needs to understand this Oval Office is “bibi”.

    It is to be hoped that Salvini understands that he is not hitching himself to trump as much as to Israel.

    Mille Grazie.

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