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On Saturday night, Omar Mateen was a loner and a loser.

Sunday, he was immortal, by his standards, a hero. Mateen had ended his life in a blaze of gunfire and glory. Now everybody knew his name.

He had been embraced by ISIS. His face was on every TV screen. His 911 call to Orlando police identifying with the Islamic State and the Tsarnaev brothers of the Boston Marathon massacre was being heard across America.

He was being called the most successful Islamist terrorist since 9/11. A hater of homosexuals, Mateen had, all alone, massacred more than four dozen patrons at a gay Florida nightclub, wounded 53, and driven deeper the wedges breaking up America. When it was learned that he used an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle, America’s gun wars were reignited.

And make no mistake. There are out there in society some few looking at what Mateen did, and how he left this world, not in revulsion and disgust but admiration and awe.

Omar Mateen will not lack for emulators. While we see him as a sick and crazed mass murderer, some will see him, as he surely saw himself, as a warrior for Islam and Muslim martyr who earned paradise.

Yet, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seemed either unable to recognize the roots of Mateen’s malice, or they were inhibited from identifying those roots by the commands of political correctness.

The president called this “an act of hate,” but declined to name the source of the hatred or motive for the massacre.

Where did Omar Mateen learn to hate not just homosexuality but the homosexuals themselves? Where did he come to believe that they deserved to die and he had a right to kill them?

Where might he have gotten such ideas? Who teaches this?

Well, not only do the Taliban and ISIS hurl homosexuals off buildings and stone them to death but 10 nations — Mauritania, Niger, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE, Yemen and Pakistan — impose the death penalty for homosexual acts.

Peoples of these nations approve, for such laws find sanction in the holy book, the Quran. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death.

Clinton declared that we must redouble our efforts to work with “our allies and partners” to go after international terror groups.

Did she have in mind the Saudis and Gulf Arabs?

For they have on their books laws calling for beheading the same sort of people Mateen shot to death at the Pulse club in Orlando, and for the same reason — what it is they do.

A co-worker said Mateen had an abiding rage over the behavior of American women. Where did Mateen get that idea?

After San Bernardino, where an ISIS-adoring Pakistani woman and her husband perpetrated a massacre, Donald Trump called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, until they could be better vetted, and we “can figure out what the hell is going on,”

This was regarded as quintessentially un-American.

But “refugees” from the Syrian war have been found abetting Islamist atrocities in Paris. Terror cells containing “refugees” from Syria’s civil war have been discovered in Angela Merkel’s Germany.

We are learning that second-generation Muslims like Mateen seem susceptible to Islamist imams preaching terror against the West to advance the restoration of the caliphate.

Does this not suggest a pause, and a long hard look before we continue with a policy of warmly welcoming all refugees fleeing the half-dozen wars roiling the Islamic world?

After World War II, we vetted German and East European migrants to ensure they were not fleeing Nazis or Soviet saboteurs or spies.

No one seemed to regard that as outrageous.

ORDER IT NOW

Devout Muslims believe there is “no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” Logically then, Muslim nations reject a “First Amendment” in their own societies that would protect a right of Christians to convert Muslims, or any “freedom of speech” that permits the mockery of Muhammad.

The iconoclasts at Charlie Hebdo learned that the penalty for blasphemy against Islam or insulting the prophet can be severe.

“East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God’s great Judgment Seat.”

So wrote Kipling. Islam, not only in its extremist forms but in its pure form, is incompatible with modern Western democracy.

And the conflict appears irreconcilable.

The policy that should result from this reality is that while we fight side-by-side to annihilate our common enemies, ISIS and al-Qaida, the West should give up the idea of democratization and secularization of the Islamic world.

And those who believe Islam is the one true faith, to which all of mankind must eventually submit, should be told that they are welcome as visitors — but not as immigrants. For that would ensure endless conflict.

The more Islamic the West becomes, the less it remains the West.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

Copyright 2016 Creators.com.

 
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  1. I am not going to read your post because you’re dumb.

    If you are a fan of Buchanan, join the club. In 2004 the ban on assault riffles expired in this country. And since then the mentally unbalanced have the right to go out there and mow down 100 people because this nation is full of idiots who think assault riffles should be the right of everyone to own.

    This asshole was a muslim, but he was also nuts, every other country in the modern world has the common sense to keep assault riffles out of the public’s hands.

  2. Alfa158 says:
    @dave chamberlin

    Don’t France and Belgium also qualify as countries in the modern world? Have they done any better at keeping assault rifles out of the hands of Muslim assholes? Last I checked their Muslim assholes have still run up a higher score than our Muslim assholes despite all the gun laws.

  3. Ben_C says:

    I’m still not entirely sure how on the one hand Barack Hussein Obama says he wants stricter firearm restrictions within the US; yet, on the other hand, at the same time, openly provides mercenary terrorists in Syria with anti-tank missiles.

    I’m sure there’s a perfectly reasonable explanation to reconcile all this…

    • Agree: Che Guava, Kiza
    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @Olorin
  4. Wally says: • Website

    As is expected, the leftist media is avoiding information that the killer was only targeting gays that were white.
    see:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/13/nightclub-witness-orlando-terrorist-spared-black-clubgoers-video/

  5. Wally says: • Website
    @dave chamberlin

    Hello clueless,

    How is a “semiautomatic rifle” an assault rifle?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle

    An assault rifle is a fully automatic selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine …

  6. 22pp22 says:
    @dave chamberlin

    I agree with tight gun controls, but if you think Islam had nothing to do with this then you are a f99l.

    • Replies: @marylou
  7. @dave chamberlin

    “….This asshole was a muslim, but he was also nuts, every other country in the modern world has the common sense to keep assault riffles out of the public’s hands.”

    It’s good to know that leftists like you -and your ilk in that nightclub -are unarmed.

  8. Mark Green says: • Website

    I’m all for banning Muslim immigrants into the US. Our nation is already 400 million strong. But let’s ban the ‘Christian’ Mexicans, too. After all, the US has no shortage of first-generation immigrants.

    But many holy texts–including the Torah (Hebrew bible)–condemn homosexuality in no uncertain terms. The problem is religious fundamentalism combined with political anger. The fit the profile of the Florida killer. Afghani-American, Omar Mateen, deeply hated both US policies as well as gays.

    Why the hatred?

    The US has been invading, bombing and occupying Afghanistan since 2002. Tens of thousands of Afghanistan citizens have died at US hands. Mateen’s motives were surely political. Afghanistan is his homeland. This is why Mateen supported the Boston bombers. These radicals see the West as a corrupt force that wantonly destroys. Do they have a point?

    Mateen had a burning grievance. This is true of the other ‘Muslim terrorists’ who have been targeting America since the first Gulf war. It was, for instance, US policies in the Middle East that motivated Osama Bin Laden to attack the WTC. OBL’s wrath primarily concerned Palestine, Iraq, and US troops in Mecca.

    Please notice that these Jihadists are not targeting China. It’s Muslims from areas where the US and NATO are bombing who are targeting the West. Devout Muslims from Indonesia, for instance, are not waging war against the West.

    Why do they hate us?

    They hate us for our deeds.

    • Replies: @Druid
    , @Ace
    , @map
    , @anon
  9. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    Omar as replicant.

    • Replies: @edNels
  10. @dave chamberlin

    its the minorities doing most the shootings with these weapons. Let’s take the guns off them.

  11. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    ——–Devout Muslims believe there is “no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” Logically then, Muslim nations reject a “First Amendment” in their own societies that would protect a right of Christians to convert Muslims, or any “freedom of speech” that permits the mockery of Muhammad.————

    But Patkins, the ‘hate speech laws’ in the EU were promoted by another bunch of Semites, the Jews.

    And it was the Jews who led Russia into communism and smashed 50,000 churches.
    Jews now promote Pussy Riot in Russia.

    It is Jews who promote homomania as the new religion, and Christian churches have been infiltrated by homo degenerates who festoon church doors and walls with homo flags.

    This is not about Islam vs Western Democracy.

    True liberal democracy is dead.

    It is about Islam vs Homomania, the new religion of the West promoted by Jews who seek to destroy True Christianity.

    Trudeau in Canada wants to ban any speech that offends Trannies.

    EU fines and even imprisons those who make fun of holy homos on twitter.

    So much for liberal free speech and tolerance. What we have now is coercion to make all of us praise and celebrate homo garbage.

    Homomania, Jew-worship, and Negro-worship are the new religions of the West.

    You say we have free speech and must defend it from Muslims?

    What happens to the career of anyone who spells out the truth that MLK or Fartin’ Poother Bling was a woman-beating degenerate lout? He will be disgraced and fired. In the EU, he may be fined and imprisoned.

    What happens to anyone in the EU who calls for Holocaust revision? Off to jail he goes. What happens to anyone who shares so-called ‘antisemitic’ speech? You end up like David Irving. Irving has many loathsome sides, but should a liberal society be locking him up?

    Holocaust is no longer a tragic historical even in the EU. It is a religion. German kids are raised to worship the Jew and believe that the original nazi sin runs in their veins. Today’s
    Germany does to Germans what Nazis did to Jews. Nazis said Jews are born with filth in their veins. Today’s Germany says Germans are born with filth in their veins, and Germans can only be redeemed by being turned into a mud people like North AFricans thru massive race mixing with darkies.

    In Austria, they elected as leader a man who called his nation a ‘shit’.

    So, who are crazier? The Moos or the Western cucks brainwashed by Jews and homos?

    Omar did a bad thing but he fought back against homo imperialists who now work with Zio-globalists to destroy the Middle East, North Africa, and Russia.

    Omar was both a deranged nut and a courageous hero. A man can be both. John Brown was crazy and righteous.

    Homos are way past looking for tolerance. They now demand that we bend over and take it up the ass and worship them and praise them. They demand that all cities around the world have massive homo parades and all politicians march in them.

    It seems many white conservatives are bitching and whining about Omar for the same reason McCain bitch about Putin and Russians.

    Muslims still have the guts and manhood to stand up to Jews and homos. In contrast, white conservatives suck Jewish cock and take homo dick up their ass.

    It’s like Putin still stands up for his nation whereas cuckservatives like Romney and McCain play whore-bitch to the Jews. They hate Putin because his manhood makes their pussyhood so embarrassing in contrast.

    Muslim manhood makes white conservative pussyhood so pathetic

    Allahu Akbar!!!!!!!!!

    RIP Omar, you nut and hero.

    • Replies: @Fidelios Automata
  12. Cyrano says:

    Reap what you sow. Islam wasn’t a problem until U.S. made it to be. It started when they decided it’s a smart idea to outsource their war against USSR – to Islam. I guess to a good capitalist everything looks like a resource to be exploited. So did Islam. A plentiful, widely available, renewable (at alarmingly fast rate) resource. So why not use it, right?

    If you can’t fight your own wars you have no business starting them. Even the most appalling regime in human history – Nazi Germany had more integrity than that. They were able and willing to fight their own wars, not outsource them to someone that they thought they’re smarter than. OK, sure, Nazi Germany used some extra cannon fodder like the Romanians, Hungarians and other dumb Eastern Europeans, but for the most part they were the main fighting force.

    Americans think that they are smart, that they can copy something from history – because it has happened before. The Roman Empire in their final stages outsourced their wars to the barbarians – and we know how that one ended. The barbarians wised up and sacked Rome. Nobody fights wars for someone else. Who is using whom here?

    • Agree: dfordoom
  13. helena says:

    “The more Islamic the West becomes, the less it remains the West.”

    This simply isn’t true. West is a geographic description. The West is already a multicultural mis-mash – that is what The West is.

    There is a very good reason why The West and White have been chosen monikers these past few decades. Because both terms have disguised what was going on in terms of social engineering.

    What is lost is European Civilisation and Europeans (down from 25% of global population to less than 10%).

  14. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326215/Thousands-anti-gay-protesters-riot-Georgia-Chaos-streets-Orthodox-priests-join-march-threaten-lash-gay-pride-activists-NETTLES.html

    YEAH!!!! RESIST AND SMASH HOMO IMPERIALISM THAT IS THE PROXY OF ZIO-GLOBALIST AGENDA.

    HOMOMANIA IS A JEWISH PLOT TO REPLACE CHRISTIANITY AND TRUE MORALITY WITH WORSHIP OF DECADENCE AND DEGENERACY OF AN ELITE MINORITY AS THE NEW FAITH.

  15. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @dave chamberlin

    Omar Mateen was employed at a security company which allowed him to carry guns legally. He had access to guns in his professional capacity. This means that no “assault rifle ban” would have prevented him from using guns in the execution of his murderous objectives.

    France has strict gun laws and the private ownership of assault rifles is absolutely forbidden. Yet, in the Paris attacks, both at Charlie Hebdo and at the Bataclan Theatre, assault rifles were used extensively.

    And what about explosives? Bombs aren’t legal, but that didn’t prevent the Tsarnaev brothers from turning an innocent pressure cooker into an “improvised explosive device” and detonating it to great effect at the Boston marathon bombing.

    If one desires to bring about a bloodbath, an assault rifle is but one option out of an infinite number of means to this end; access to a good assault rifle is a luxury, certainly not a necessity.

  16. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    pat, hopefully this will all play out the same as the red scare that led to the immigration moratorium of the 1920s. Then, the media/corps/govt finally had to stop immigration because of the fact that so many immigrants (and their children) were literally throwing bombs. THis was due to the anarchic-socialist ideology that was dominant among many of the immigrant population.

    The american people back then wanted less immigration, as they do now. But corp/gov/media wanted more. Finally, corp/gov/media had to back down back because of immigrant terrorism.

    Google red scare political cartoons for some background.

    Let’s hope this episode of immigrant terrorism plays out the same.

  17. As the truth is further teased out, the mass murderer himself was a Pulse club regular for perhaps several years, and participated continuously in gay sexting with other patrons. Like the Al Quaeda 9/11 perpetrators before him, he enjoyed a libertine Florida lifestyle. This deluded emissary of Satan considered several Disney venues for his mass murders in the name of ISIS. But like the San Bernadino ISIS terrorist who executed his own workmates, he settled on murdering those victims he was most familiar with, as the most convenient path to atrocity.

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
  18. @dave chamberlin

    I’m smarter than thee. So to is everyone else here. Read on…

  19. Randal says:

    Buchanan pays far too much heed to the homosexualist lobby’s play for victim status here. This was an islamist attack that happened to choose a gay club as a target, not primarily an anti-homosexual crime. Here’s how one witness described the killer (bold added):

    When I saw his picture on the news, I thought, of course, he did that,” fellow security guard Eric Baumer told Newsday. “He had bad things to say about everybody—blacks, Jews, gays, a lot of politicians, our soldiers. He had a lot of hate in him. He told me America destroyed Afghanistan.”
    [Bold added]

    And that distinction is crucial, for two reasons:

    First, the homosexualist identity lobby will use this useful event to push for still more illiberal and repressive measures against those who disapprove of their lifestyle choices and behaviour, in the way that was absolutely normal and commonplace in all western cultures until a few years ago.

    Second, the globalist establishment will use it in the same way, and will play along with the above increased suppression of dissent, both because it already seeks to increase censorship and control of dissent anyway and in order to deflect increased support for the anti-immigration and pro-nationalist agenda that is otherwise the only possible response to the news of another atrocity by a child of immigrants whose loyalties are alienated by foreign family connections and muslim religious affiliations.

    The most important issue of the moment is to prevent the homosexual identity lobby and the globalist establishment from misrepresenting and exploiting this event in the way they are already succeeding in doing.

  20. Rehmat says:

    Mr. Buchanan, if this dude had join ISIS then how could you blame him being an anti-gay Muslim? Every political aware person knows that ISIS was created and still protected by Washington to defend the Zionist entity – except dumb Muslim-hating dumb Judeo-Christian creeps.

    Furthermore, Christians like you are not in the position to lecture “tolerance” to others, while murdering over 400 million innocent people in Americana, Australia, New Zealand, African slavery, world wars I & 2, and currently keeping your forces in more than 140 foreign nations.

    Listen to your White supremacist and Muslim-hating brother Dr. Kevin McDonald why 50 Christian gays were murdered by Mateen who was under FBI “observation” since 2013.

    “The gun culture of traditional America, especially rural America has been particularly loathed by Jewish intellectuals. There is also a deep fear of Christian culture that is most vibrant in rural America. For example, Israeli patriot Elliott Abrams acknowledges that the mainstream Jewish community in America “clings to what is at bottom a dark vision of America, as a land permeated with anti-Semitism and always on the verge of anti-Semitic outbursts.” According to Abrams, because of this vision, Jews have taken the lead in secularizing America. In fact, the key role of Jewish organizations in shaping the Constitutional law on Church/State relations is well known. And it’s not much of a mystery who’s behind the war on Christmas,” Dr. Kevin McDonald wrote on February 15, 2016.

    https://rehmat1.com/2016/06/13/florida-latino-gay-club-shooting-another-psyop/

  21. Randal says:

    The alienated child of Afghan parents brought to the US as a result of the US regime’s interventionist policies in Afghanistan in the 1980s, on the record as resenting what his parents’ adopted country has done to the country of his family origins, with confused ideas resulting from the obvious incompatibility between the virulently secularist and anti-religious values of the country and culture he grew up in and those of the religion of his parents

    He’s a textbook case of the disadvantages and dangers of importing culturally incompatible foreigners, particularly whilst engaging in aggressive and murderous interventionist policies in the countries to which most of them still feel some degree of loyalty and have family connections to.

    Mateen is surely the argument against what Steve Sailer calls the “invade the world and invite the world” policies of mass immigration combined with aggressive military interventionism, personified.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  22. D. K. says:
    @dave chamberlin

    This column is not about gun control. Regardless, it does not take any “assault riffles [sic]” to kill a lot of innocent nightclub patrons. A match and a dollar’s worth of gasoline will do the trick just as well– indeed, even markedly better:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

  23. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Oops, looks like Pat roared too soon, as reports coming out now paint Mateen as gay. And I guess it would be in bad taste to mention some of the numerous crimes against humanity and war crimes the USA and it’s European fellow travelers have committed upon numerous Islamic nations?

    With that said…

    Either there had to be at least three shooters or the ones behind this set off some knockout gas to disable the club attendees.

    There’s no way in hell one guy is going to hold off three hundred clubbers, do the killing, and control ALL the exits, including windows by himself… Oh and also talk to 911 dispatch.
    Maybe the designated Muslim patsy also–like San Bernardino–updated his FACEBOOK or Snapchat or some other social network site while shooting up the club? You know how crazy Americans are for ‘selfies!’

    P.S. Where’s the cell phone video or pics taken of this incident? And please, leave the date and time stamp on the videos this time!

    • Replies: @schmenz
    , @anonymous
  24. If Drudge is any gauge then the tack the left is now taking is that the killer was secretly gay and thus the act was due to repressed homosexuality which morphed into homophobia. Obviously homophobia comes from White, Christian men.

    See? It wasn’t Islam after all.

  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    hard are times, so we need a joke 🙂

    http://www.devios.eu/sound-record-from-bavaria/

  26. Unzerker says:
    @dave chamberlin

    Yes, Buchanan is dumb. Look at France. They kept assault rifles out of the public’s hand and Paris never had a serious terror attack. Muslims armed with assault rifles never killed 89 in Bataclan.

    Dumb Buchanan.

  27. berserker says:
    @dave chamberlin

    And what happened in Paris and Brussels? There was strict gun control. In one case, the terrorists were able to find the guns to mow down over a hundred people. In the other, bombs were used. In Orlando, the killer also had explosives. These failed to detonate.

  28. anon • Disclaimer says:

    1) Sharia is incompatible.

    2) Demand for sharia will be proportional to numbers.

    3) The aggression behind the demand will be proportional to numbers also.

  29. @dave chamberlin

    I am not going to read your post because you’re dumb.

    I’m a fast reader, so unfortunately I had already read yours before I had a chance to stop.

    …every other country in the modern world has the common sense to keep assault riffles out of the public’s hands.

    That really helped the people in Paris, didn’t it.

    • Agree: Che Guava
  30. NickG says:

    Pat’s post is simple common sense.

    There does seem to be some kind of mass Stockholm syndrome going on in the West.

    Perhaps this penchant for leapfrogging loyalty is caused by something deep,even at a gene level in Northern Europeans. Or maybe it is just some kind of Gramscian group-think we have allowed to become the dominant narrative in our societies, and that it is reversible.

    I really don’t know.

    Meantime the media advertises guaranteed coverage and fame for the next sociopath killer looking for glorious infamy. And the uncomfortable truth is that Islam, not some perversion of it, but bog-standard mainstream Islam, is a sociopath’s charter.

    • Replies: @anon
  31. Parbes says:

    “…the West should give up the idea of democratization and secularization of the Islamic world”

    On the contrary, the West should be doing everything possible for the secularization of the Islamic world – starting with QUITTING and REPENTING FROM the foreign policy of forcibly overthrowing every secular nationalistic government in the Middle East, in cahoots with the Wahhabi monarchs of Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.

    Note that I said “secularization” only, NOT “democratization and secularization”. Secularization must PRECEDE democratization in any Islamic society; you cannot have both simultaneously, since true democracy is not compatible with the tenets of Islam.

  32. @dave chamberlin

    Jefferson said in the Declaration that the People have the right to “alter or abolish” an oppressive government, if necessary. He further said, in a letter, that “The tree of liberty must be refresh’d from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” The Founders were students of history. They knew that their fellow Americans were subject to the same passions and temptations that they knew well from reading Greek, Roman, and English history.

    How can the People abolish a tyrannous regime (say, Hitler’s Germany or Kim’s North Korea) if the unthinkable does occur, and “it” does happen here? You live your life under the watchful eye of innumerable spy cameras; the government unconstitutionally reads your private emails, you have to go through a search of your “effects” (again, unconstitutionally) before boarding an airplane (and wishing to travel by air does not constitute “probable cause”).

    The Clintons will probably tighten the vise yet further, perhaps getting a future Court to declare Buchanan’s posts to this site “hate speech”. The right to “peaceable assembly” is already under assault by anti-Trump mobs outside his rallies. How can you predict how far the erosion of liberty will proceed? Is there a point at which you would cry, “Enough!” The Minuteman got rid of the British; the Viet Minh got rid of the French and the Americans. We have to imagine ourselves facing the patriotic duty to get rid of an intolerable government as well.

    The State, in its arrogance, thinks that passing laws will make all problems go away. Why don’t you scream and holler for banning cars? Many more people are killed by cars in this country by than by firearms. Banning “drugs” hasn’t worked in the failed “War on Drugs”. It won’t work with their War on Rifles either. There are still millions of patriots in the Heartland who will keep their guns in their closets, under the floorboards of their sheds, or buried in PVC tubes way out in the “far forty”. We say to Hillary (and to you): Molon Labe. “Come and take it.”

    • Replies: @dave chamberlin
  33. ” Islam, not only in its extremist forms but in its pure form, is incompatible with modern Western democracy.”

    Democracy? What is this so called democracy of which you speak? D o you have any clue whatsoever what real thinkers, at least from Socrates to the “founding fathers” ( both Federalist and Anti-Federalist) thought about “democracy?”

    Do you really think that something called “Western democracy” has ever truly existed except in the minds of the brainwashed?

    Ya gotta be kidding…

  34. Quebeker says:

    In this particular case, I think it had more to do with the particularly twisted relationship Afghan culture has with homosexuality. This attitude actually predates Islam, whose precepts make it doubly hard on gays. I think Mateen wanted to expiate his ‘sin’ through martyrdom and massacre of other gays.

    Why we let these people immigrate to our countries is beyond me.

    • Replies: @Marcus
  35. While Mr. Buchanan might not agree, Christianity, in many ways, is also irreconcilable with the West (Christians are admonished to be “in the world, but not of it”), but the difference is in the different responses the two religions teach.

    Christians are admonished to await the second coming before “justice” is established, while Muslims are exhorted to fight for their version of “justice” with every strategy. Most would point to the historical similarities of behavior of human beings to argue that there is no difference between the religions.

    I argue that the facts surrounding the histories of the founders are the flapping butterfly wings that have spawned the whirlwind.

    • Replies: @Yonnie
  36. KenH says:
    @dave chamberlin

    You’re just a typical left wing village idiot. Guns are inanimate objects. Most gun violence is via handguns, not assault rifles. The second amendment exists so the people can resist government tyranny, not protect the rights of duck and deer hunters, target shooters and plinkers. This means people must have firearms effective enough to do the job and today that includes so called assault rifles.

    This is more a discussion of Muslims and other third world people who should not be in our country, who hold diametrically opposed world views to ours and who cannot control their violent impulses. Of course, we need to arrest and deport morons like you as well as you’re almost as dangerous as the Islamists with your totally whacked out, illogical view of things.

    • Agree: Ace
  37. “Does this not suggest a pause, and a long hard look before we continue with a policy of warmly welcoming all refugees fleeing the half-dozen wars roiling the Islamic world?”

    You almost make it sound like fomenting these wars isn’t in the American people’s best interest.

  38. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:

    hi Pat!!

    I voted for you, and I like your veirs on stuff.. Even though I am steeped in the Roseveld Democratic era… my Grand paraents were.. especially my mentor grandma!

    Well see, she did happen to know some very influential people..

    Which I am pretty sure is the reason that i Ain’t beeen killed to this day!

    My Grandma made some deal with some elite maddam… to sav4 my little ass! And it worked pretty good.. other wise, I would be his/herstory… !!!

    I like what you say Patrick Buchanin… You are a mench.. you say what most guys think… I think!

  39. edNels [AKA "geoshmoe"] says:
    @Priss Factor

    thanks for that video,,, I got a good belly laugh!!

  40. schmenz says:
    @Greg Bacon

    Yes, I agree with you. Pat should have held off until more facts came in. His column here is essentially worthless, which is sad because I respect him very much for normally keeping calm and sane in the face of propaganda.

    Personally I don’t know what to believe about this thing, but I do have doubts about what is being defecated hourly by the media. Let’s just say at this point that this whole incident is extremely convenient.

    • Agree: Jacques Sheete
  41. Marcus says:
    @Quebeker

    Muslims find relationships between two adult males horrifying, but pederasty is omnipresent. This is actually the historical norm outside of Europe

    • Replies: @Quebeker
  42. “He was being called the most successful Islamist terrorist since 9/11”

    Is Dick Cheney a Muslim? 9/11 was a false flag attack.

    I’m with Trump. But the West might want to stop slaughtering Muslims in the Greater ME. It’s expensive and serves no one except the war profiteers (like Halliburton).

  43. @Priss Factor

    Your kind of bigotry proves what I’ve been saying, that “anti-discrimination” laws and the transgender bathroom insanity will only provoke a backlash. When things go to hell in this country, and they will, people will be looking for scapegoats. Gays will be targeted again even though they’ve had nothing to do with the economic collapse, neoconservative imperialism or mass-immigration cuckservativism.

    White straight male pride doesn’t require us to hate anyone else, just to give up the guilt. Muslims are free to follow sharia law in their own countries, but here in America, follow our rules or get out! We in the alt-right need to call the so-called progressives on their hypocrisy. Hitlery will sell out the LGBT community the second it’s in her political advantage to do so.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    , @anonymous
  44. @Ben_C

    BO and his buddy Holder also supplied Mexican drug lords with a stunning amount of firepower during “Operation Fast and Furious”. The use of these weapons to kill American law enforcement officers is now well-documented. That these two swine have escaped impeachment and subsequent further condign punishments is a proof and indictment of our toxic political culture.

  45. @Eustace Tilley (not)

    Thanks for giving me a little hope that not everybody here is a moron.

    Your response is thoughtful. Thoughtful! Imagine that. Nobody wants to come and take away your silly hunting rifle, and if they did it’s far too late, as you have pointed out. The cat is out of the bag.

    To the rest of you responders, thanks for further confirming what I suspected about readers of Buchanan. The rest of the modern world laughs at us for our many many stupid notions. Normally intelligent people turn into blathering fools when it comes to politics, I can’t explain it, it is what it is.

    Liberals can be bigger idiots than conservatives, I am neither. We have an underclass in this country that is a huge burden. 29% of all black males between the ages of 19 and 29 in this country are in jail, or so says Ron Unz in one of his articles. Germany, France and Belgium made a terrible mistake allowing a huge population of uneducated lower IQ muslims into their countries, there are no jobs for them, they will become an underclass prone to crime, they will be a huge burden on their host nations.

    When Buchanan talks about this slaughter and what caused it and doesn’t talk about the easy accessibility of assault rifles as part of the problem, he is an idiot. When Buchanan talks about the causes of the increased higher death rate among middle age whites (a few articles back) in this country and leaves out that 40% of this population is now obese, he is an idiot. He doesn’t know what he is talking about or worse, lies to the boobs out there telling them what they want to here.

    Once upon a time the stupid in this country knew they were stupid. They were uneducated and didn’t pretend to have answers to why the human world is the way it is. Now the stupid masses armed with their junior college diplomas are the majority, and they believe utter bullshit, filling in simple answers to highly complex problems.

  46. Quebeker says:
    @Marcus

    You are quite right. The Pashtun like to abuse young dancing boys, dressed like girls and call them Bacha basi, but you can find similar perversions all thru that nice neighborhood.

    Perhaps poor Omar couldn’t shake off an appetite for dancing boys.

    To think that we’re supposed to be grateful for the enrichment such immigration brings.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    , @gwynedd1
  47. Marcus says:
    @dave chamberlin

    It wasn’t an assault rifle, and those aren’t commonly used in crimes, but gun availability wouldn’t be an issue with pre-1970s demographics.

  48. Marcus says:
    @Quebeker

    He was frustrated by having to settle for grown males (insofar as homosexuals can be called such)

  49. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Patkins…

    Are you saying homo-supremacism is what the West is about?

    Should we hate on Muslims or the Moos because they hate homos?

    Now, I don’t condone the violent attack on the fruitkin dance club. But it is a form of resistance against homo imperialism that has been promoted by Jewish supremacism.

    The idea of Patkins opposing Moo immigration on the basis that homo decadence is what the ‘West’ is all about is too funny.

    No, homo decadence and homomania(the new religion of the West) have been pushed by Jewish Semites who seek to normalize elite-minority-domination. Jews are the 2% that rules over us, and so they naturally side with the 2% that is homo. Jews seek to consolidate their own power by making homo power the New Normal. Jews figure that an overwhelmingly straight population that worships homos will buttress an overwhelmingly gentile population that worships Jews.

    The West is no longer in control by true Western values. It is under mental-political-cultural-and-economic colonization of the Jewish-Homo-centric Power Complex. The Jomo Cabal. Jews effected this silent revolution through pop culture, political power, financial power, and blackmailing of prominent figures.

    While we should reject, even denounce, the terrorist way of Omar, we need to stand with the Moos on the matter of Jewish-Homo power because it is Jomo power that is destroying both the Moo world and West.

    We need to consider both the Invade and Invite aspect of Invade/Invite foreign policy.

    The INVADE part of the Jomo agenda has led to total chaos in the Middle East. Look at Afghanistan after US backed religious nuts to overthrow secular regime backed by Soviets. Look at Iraq after Bush took down Hussein and created a vacuum to be filled by terrorists.
    Look at Libya. Look at Syria, the result of Jomo aiding of radical Muslim nuts.
    If anything, Jomos have been working with Saudis and other Sunni nuts to set entire nations — Libya, Syria, and Yemen — aflame.

    If anything, Jew-run US has been destroying modern secular Arab regimes and creating vacuums for Jihadis in order to make Arabs fight Arabs. US has been doing this in cahoots with Saudis. So, the very West that promotes homomania works with arch-theocratic Saudis to destroy every secular and modern Arab nation, especially if it is allied with Shia Iran.

    And look at what Jewish control of Palestine led to. Massive homo ‘pride’ parades in Israel. If Israel had never been created, such degeneracy would not be taking place in the holy land. If anything, Moos have more respect for the holy land than Jews do. Jews have turned the holy land in Sodom and Gomorrah.
    Such is what the Jewish takeover of the Holy Land led to. Should decent Christians in America still be supporting Jews and Israel when Jews have desecrated the Holy Land?

    Of course, one could argue that Israel does it as publicity stunt to fool the West that Israel is ‘progressive’ and into homomania, thereby making the West ‘progressives’ — who worship homomania — favor Zionists over Palestinians who are ‘less evolved’ on matters of fecal penetration and cutting off dicks to get fake vaginas. After all, even though Tel Aviv have massive homo parades, West Bank Occupation is dominated by arch-religious Jewish zealots who have no tolerance for homo degeneracy. So, Israel is playing a dirty game. It shows its homo-friendly face to the West in order to justify its arch-religious Occupation of West Bank.

    I used to be ambivalent about the creation of Israel, but upon looking at the hideous homo parades in the holy land, I must say the creation of the Jewish state was a great tragedy. If Arabs and Muslims ruled the holy land, such degeneracy would not be allowed to take place. Holy Land would be holy than assholey.

    I don’t like Islam, but we have give it some credit. Moos are better fighters than Christians. Consider all the Christian nations that fell to communism and then to Jewish-promoted homomania. In contrast, no Muslim nation surrendered to communism or to homomania. Muslims always fought back and won.

    And Muslims are among the few people standing up to the homo-imperialist agenda pushed by Globalist Jews.

    In the US, white Americans have surrendered to homomania and denounce the MORAL DISOBEDIENCE of those who refuse to bake ‘gay wedding cakes’. Even the GOP, a total cuck-operation that sucks Jewish cock, will not come to aid of Morally Decent Bakers.

    Though I don’t like the violence of the kind carried out by Omar, what is more disgraceful? Surrender to Homo degenerates funded by vile globalist Jews or having the reckless courage to fight back?

    Homos are no longer asking for tolerance. They are pushing coercion to make all of us praise and celebrate their sexual deviancy and lifestyle degeneracy. Homos don’t even take responsibility for the AIDS disaster and just blame it all on “Reagan’s indifference”. These are the kinds of people promoted by venal Jews who run the West.

    Christians need not resort to violence but they can surely come together with moral secular folks(such as myself), and we can stand up to homo supremacism. But where are such voices and movements? Where is the march for Moral Pride?

    Where is the power of MORAL DISOBEDIENCE against the homo agenda?

    Where is the power of WHITE RESISTANCE against Zio-globalist supremacism?

    Moos are pretty dumb and resist in a stupid way, but they are at least resisting than bending over to the homo agenda.

    We should see Moos as fellow victims of globalism. Their world was smashed by the INVADE part of Jomo globalism, and the EU is being destroyed by the INVITE part of Jomo globalism.

    But so many white Conservatives overlook the role of Jomo power in all this and just blame it all on Muslims.

    They overlook the fact that homo-imperialists have been working in cahoots with Jewish supremacists to mess up Middle East, North Africa, and Ukraine.
    They hope to score points with holy homos since homos are supposed to be worshiped in the West.

    I believe the West should be about tolerance for homos. But we’ve gone way past that. We now have coercive worship of homos. People in the West must now worship Jews and homos in the way that Cubans must praise Castro and the Norks must praise the Kims.

    We live under homotarianism.

    Also, what is a terrorist?

    If we are honest, we must admit US is a terrorist state that has illegally invaded nations that didn’t attack the US. Who can deny that US attacks on Iraq and Libya were worse than Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor? Japan wasn’t even trying to invade the US, not even Hawaii. Japan was just trying to buy time to gain dominance in Asia.

    In contrast, US invaded Iraq and Libya to totally change them as if US has some godgiven right to invade and remake any society.

    But Bush II, Obama, and Hillary pretend to be humanitarians by welcoming all these ‘refugees’ when, in fact, the ONLY reason such ‘refugees’ exist in the first place is because US terrorist wars on the Middle East and North Africa have uprooted so many people.

    It’s like US supports the Zionist invasion/occupation of Palestinian lands but then pretends to care about Palestinians by allowing Pallie immigration to America.

    Invade/Invite.

    Crazy.

    • Replies: @Mark Green
    , @Stonehands
  50. Outwest says:
    @dave chamberlin

    You need to flesh out the germane portion of your logic a bit. First the weapon used was not an assault rifle (not automatic) and not an AR-15. It was functionally a rather pedestrian Simi-automatic rifle. Actually, an assault rifle in automatic mode would likely be less deadly in that it would burn through ammunition rapidly with low accuracy.

    And your comment as to Germany, France and Belgium where firearms in general are banned added what to the discussion?

    My sense is that it would be foolhardy to mount a similar attack on another such club since the patrons would very likely be armed and make short work of an assailant.

  51. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Maybe Orlando Massacre should be called Assacre.

    All those homo asses got it bad.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  52. gwynedd1 says:
    @Fran Macadam

    Perfectly consistent with religion, just like a religious boy who likes his dirty magazines but feels guilty about it. He buys them. He tosses them out. He goes to church and then merely looks at the hem of a Sunday dress to ignite his lust again. He loves them. He hates them. Islam in particular believes in the remove the temptation solution. They fulfill their lusts and then rage against it.

    We need many more of these fine specimens do we not?

  53. gwynedd1 says:
    @Quebeker

    Not just enriched, but enlarged.

  54. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @Fidelios Automata

    “Your kind of bigotry proves what I’ve been saying, that ‘anti-discrimination’ laws and the transgender bathroom insanity will only provoke a backlash.”

    The real problem is BUGGOTRY. The buggerites are forcing all of us to bend over to homomania.

    Homos are the bigots or buggots because they cannot tolerate anyone who criticizes or condemns what they do. Homos, like Stalin, demand that all people should have just one choice: to worship homos.

    If homoness is all about secular tolerance, why do homos try to take over churches and cover them with homo flags? Why don’t they respect religious dogma?
    Why are homos so eager to ‘spiritualize’ homosexuality if indeed the homo agenda is entirely secular and ‘rational’?

    If homoness is about tolerance, why do homos seek to control education and brainwash all kids that homo fecal penetration is the healthiest and most wonderful thing? We know kids will believe anything and lack critical faculty. So, why do homos try to work on kids? It’s because homos want to brainwash kids at the earliest stage possible so that kids will come to worship homos BEFORE they develop critical rational faculties.

    This is not about tolerance. It is about homomania as the new religion and ideology.

    Such is buggotry. Forcing people to praise and worship your kind is like white slave-masters forcing blacks to ho-de-do and call white folks ‘massuh’ and grovel.

    In a free society, blacks should have right to like, dislike, or hate white folks.

    Only in an unfree society would all blacks be forced to praise and obey whites.

    We now have a Jewish-Homo supremacist nation where we must praise homos or else must be destroyed if we criticize the homo way(EVEN IF YOU SUPPORT THE FREEDOM OF HOMOS TO DO HOMO THING).

    In Hollywood, there is Homocarthyism or Buttfuc*arthyism that blackmails anyone who opposed the sickening idea of ‘gay marriage’.
    This ‘gay marriage’ garbage is not about ‘gay rights’. It’s about ‘gay MIGHT’. This ”gay marriage’ stuff is not about rights at all. If indeed individuals should determine what marriage should be, why isn’t there ‘incest marriage’? Incest marriage doesn’t exist because incest-sexuals don’t have the POWER or the backing of Jews.
    It’s about Power, not Principles. Homos got great power cuz they’re favored by the Jewish rulers of America. Even Conservatives didn’t oppose the homo agenda cuz they fear Jewish power behind it.

    The idea that homos should marry is ridiculous. I can understand the banning of discrimination against homos in areas that have nothing to do with sexual morality. If a homo is a good engineer or accountant, he should be judged on his ability.

    But marriage isn’t about ability but about sexuality attraction and sexual functions. For marriage to be sane and decent, it must be associated with natural normality and moral decency. Fairies doing fecal penetration on each other is not decent. It is an natural abnormality at best.

    ” Gays will be targeted again even though they’ve had nothing to do with the economic collapse, neoconservative imperialism or mass-immigration cuckservativism.”

    Homos had much to do with the financial collapse. Homos are well-represented in Wall Street and work closely with Jews. Furthermore, Homos worked with Jews to remake political leftism from a class-based economic ideology to a lifestyle-based cultural ideology that favors ultra-privileged urban elites. Look how Wall Street, Hollywood, Las Vegas, and Silicon Valley fund massive homo parades and control the ‘new leftism’ that turns a blind eye to capitalist abuses since the new ‘progressivism’ is more about worshiping fancy pants elite homo celebrities than about caring for workers and poor folks.

    And homos are all over US state department. 10% of Washington DC is homo. Homos have played a huge role in US foreign policy imperialism. Homo agenda has been used as proxy of Jewish-Zionist imperialism. Notice that wherever US spreads its military and financial influence, it pressures the nation to put on massive homo parades.
    Homos bless the Zionist oppression of Palestinians because Tel Aviv has massive homo parades.

    The price of Vietnam gaining favorite relations with US was having to put on massive homo parades. This is a nation that fought hard and lost millions to push out American Imperialism… but now it is bending over to US imperialism in the form of homomania.

    Also, the New Cold War was engineered by Jews and homos against Russia. Why? Jews are angry with Russia because Russians won’t put out totally to Jewish power. Jews seek to control Russia like they control the US.
    And Homos work with Jews because they are angry that Russia will not allow massive homo parades.

    Both Jews and homos aren’t content with tolerance and freedom. They want total power to force all straights and gentiles to get on their knees and sing hosannas to Jews and homos.

    And when it comes to the cult of Diversity, homos have been working with Jews to increase immigration on the basis that they will have more asses to sodomize.

    Homo Imperialism is real.

    This is blowback.

    Allahu Akbar.

    • Replies: @Stonehands
  55. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    What do you call a homo journalist?

    A pooper scooper.

    What do you call a homo soldier?

    A pooper trooper.

  56. Rehmat says:
    @Randal

    Afghan Muslim culture is still better than Steve Sailers’ ‘White culture’. Afghans have not invaded a foreign country to murder and loot its people during the last 100 years while Western and Russian barbarians destroyed one of world’s oldest civilization and force over six million Afghans to seek refuge in neighboring Pakistan and Iran.

    No wonder Israeli rabbi believes that only Muslim immigrants can clean the immoral filth from Europe.

    Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a teacher at Yishva community school in the West Bank, says Jews around the world should be happy at turning Europe into a Muslim majority region.

    “With the help of G-d, the Gentile (non-Jewish) will adopt a healthier life with a lot of modesty and integrity, and not like the hypocritical Christianity which appears pure but is fundamentally corrupt,”said rabbi – reported by Israeli daily YNet News on November 11, 2012.

    https://rehmat1.com/2013/01/02/rabbi-islamization-of-europe-is-good-for-jews/

    • Replies: @gwynedd1
    , @Marcus
  57. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Greg Bacon

    the designated Muslim patsy

    Yeah, but the feds chose an imperfect one. They wanted an angry young Muslim who hated gays for religious, not personal reasons. This is why the feds want total surveillance: Choosing the optimum patsy is an important factor in shaping public opinion.

  58. Olorin says:
    @Ben_C

    Sure: Magic Dirt.

    By the time those Syrians get here, put their foot on American soil, kneel down and kiss it, and arise, they will be singing God Bless America.

    No wait, that’s what the UniParty says in its gooshy campaign advertising. BO doesn’t care. He sides more with Moslems than Americans instinctively. After all, the US is just a place upon whose coasts he attended college then got promoted well past the top tier of his incompetence.

    But he’s good at one thing, as the pampered darling of the Rootless Cosmopolitan Globalistas: saying and doing whatever serves them and him. That’s a power function, not a logical one.

    Besides, he’s got his own African-dictator-sized private army protecting himself, the wife unit, and the offspring. And you pay for it, suckas.

  59. gwynedd1 says:
    @Rehmat

    American Jews are some of the biggest neocons we have.

  60. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    The so-called ‘left’ is calling white patriots for noticing that there is a racial/cultural/ethnic angle to these acts of violence.

    Jewish power INVADES.
    INVITED Muslim power lashes out.

    This goes go show that there are only two kinds of people: honest racists or race-ists AND dishonest racists who pretend to be anti-racist. In truth, races do exist, and racial differences exist and profoundly impact society. All people notice racial differences and think-feel-act accordingly.

    Even watching black-dominated sports is ‘racist’ since black domination means that blacks are superior at running and jumping. Gentrification is ‘racist’ since it predicated on pushing out dangerous criminal blacks to make a community more amenable to ‘nice white liberals’. So-called Affirmative Action is ‘racist’ since it is premised on the notion that blacks need special consideration. So, everyone is a ‘racist’.

    The question is, “Are you an honest racist or race-ist OR are you a dishonest racist pretending to be anti-racist?” It’s like Hate. Everyone hates to some extent. It would be inhuman to be without hate because it’s such a universal human emotion and response.

    So, the world is really divided between honest haters who admit they feel hate and dishonest haters who claim that ‘hate’ exists only on the other side. Dishonest haters don’t regard their own hate as hate but as ‘righteousness’. They are so deluded.

  61. Olorin says:

    Early this morning I was checking the snow cams on the slopes of a few Cascadian volcanoes and noticed that the American flag at Paradise visitor center on Mt. Rainier is flying at half mast.

    Now if that’s not all-penetrating state indoctrination happily paid for by the native visitors, and mournfully davened to as atonement for our terrible sins as straight white males of European ancestry (the main users of said ski slopes, IME), I don’t know what is.

    “Irreconcilable conflict,” Mr. Buchanan?

    You seriously overestimate matters. Your prized Christian churches were the first to hand over our sovereignty in every form, and they make billions a year in continuing to do so.

    With all due respect, that blind spot is why some of us wrote you off in 2000.

  62. Yonnie says:
    @another fred

    Yup. You know who the most fundamentalist Christians are in America? Who live isolated existences and rarely utilize the legal system, instead relying on religious law for civil and family matters? The Amish.

    Where are the Amish suicide buggy bombers? Where are the Amish or Mennonite thugs killing innocent people on 5 continents? Funny.

    Another idiot comment.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    , @another fred
  63. Marcus says:
    @Rehmat

    Afghan Muslim culture is still better than Steve Sailers’ ‘White culture’. Afghans have not invaded a foreign country to murder and loot its people during the last 100 years while Western and Russian barbarians destroyed one of world’s oldest civilization and force over six million Afghans to seek refuge in neighboring Pakistan and Iran.

    Why not move there? I hear they’re offering 40 acres, a goat, a cousin, and a little boy to each immigrant.

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  64. @dave chamberlin

    “me a little hope that not everybody here is a moron”
    “The rest of the modern world laughs at us for our many many stupid notions”
    “Liberals can be bigger idiots than conservatives, I am neither. ”
    “When Buchanan talks about…he is an idiot”
    “When Buchanan talks about the causes of the increased higher death rate…he is an idiot.”
    “Once upon a time the stupid in this country knew they were stupid”
    “Now the stupid masses armed with their junior college diplomas are the majority….”

    Project much?

    Enjoy the rest of college, hopefully you have some fun while you are there. Sometime along the way, you should learn to write better. Also I’d suggest a course in logic and how to construct an argument.

  65. have you guys read the new info? the shooter was gay. this could just be the shooter couldn’t accept the gayness in himself a and went super nuts.

    • Replies: @D. K.
  66. Marcus says:
    @Yonnie

    Christians believe they will be rewarded in the next world by being ascetics or mendicants, Muslims believe they will enter paradise by being those who “kill and are killed” for Allah: I reject both, but who do you place your bets on for long term survival?

  67. Won’t you please help little Abdullah?

  68. Biff says:

    And if he was a white Christian he would simply be Menally I’ll. Like he was.

    • Replies: @another fred
    , @D. K.
  69. @Yonnie

    Yup. You know who the most fundamentalist Christians are in America? Who live isolated existences and rarely utilize the legal system, instead relying on religious law for civil and family matters? The Amish.

    Where are the Amish suicide buggy bombers? Where are the Amish or Mennonite thugs killing innocent people on 5 continents? Funny.

    That was my point. The difference being the historical behavior of the founder of Christianity as opposed to that of Mohammed.

    Another idiot comment.

    How did you score on reading and comprehension in school?

  70. @Biff

    The problem is not that the mentally ill exist, but how their behavior fits in to the society around them. Mateen’s behavior is condoned by a large segment of Islam and praised by a significant number. You can find Christian freaks like the Westboro Baptists, but they are far less accepted by other Christians, and shunned by most, nor does their behavior rise to this level.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @dahoit
    , @Ozymandias
  71. bunga says:

    Something to ponder on – both the baldfaced lying by NPR and also how Spain has done since the Madrid bombing

    “Shortly before noon on Sunday (6/12/16), during NPR‘s national coverage of the horrific shooting in Orlando, NPR “counter-terrorism correspondent” Dina Temple-Raston made a critical false claim that deserves an on-air correction.

    NPR‘s hosts were talking about the Orlando shooting, terrorism and the US election. They asked Temple-Raston to chime in on the issue, and she drew a parallel with Spain, claiming that when the 2004 Madrid train attacks happened just before the Spanish election, “the more conservative candidate ended up winning.”

    This is exactly backwards.

    In fact, the incumbent government, led by the conservative People’s Party, had brought the country into the Iraq War a year before against public opposition, and feared that if the attack were shown to be Mideast-related, voters would be furious. The day of the attack, March 11, 2004, the Spanish government had the United Nations Security Council pass resolution 1530, which condemned in “the strongest terms the bomb attacks in Madrid, Spain, perpetrated by the terrorist group ETA.” Three days later, the day of the election, Al Qaeda claimed responsibility.

    Before the Madrid bombing, the People’s Party generally lead in the polls by 4 or 5 percentage points, but the Socialist Party ended up winning by 5 points. The victorious Socialists had called for the removal of Spanish troops from Iraq during the campaign.

    Crucially, there were substantial protests in the immediate aftermath of the bombings, which included messages like “No to Terrorism—No to War.”

    After winning the election, the Socialist Party withdrew troops a month earlier than promised. I can’t find a record of any Mideast-related attacks in Spain since.

    t’s remarkable that NPR‘s self-described “counterterrorism correspondent” would make such a false statement. This case seems to show an example of a country that may have reduced the danger of terrorism by ending participation in an aggressive war. That’s something that should be regularly highlighted: Can we learn something from this?

    Instead, the reporter who should be highlighting this story reversed the historical lesson.

    Note: Dina Temple-Raston’s statement does not appear to be on NPR‘s website or its transcripts on Nexis. (I tweeted about it twice at the time, using Temple-Raston’s Twitter handle.) The failure to put all of NPR‘s broadcasts online lessens accountability for the powerful, publicly funded network.” http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/06/14/perverting-history-at-npr-commenting-on-orlando-terrorism-reporter-reverses-political-lesson-of-madrid-blast/

    • Replies: @KA
  72. Druid says:
    @Mark Green

    True. Most Moslems I know do not hate America or Americans. In fact, most think Americans are a good and generous people in general. They hare the militarism, killing, invasions, etc. neocon asses causing most of the trouble. Most also dislike Saudi Wahhabism and salamis the traits!

  73. D. K. says:
    @Biff

    “Homosexuality” is no longer listed in the DSM. Which mental illness(es) had you diagnosed the decedent with, Dr. Biff?

  74. D. K. says:
    @Astuteobservor II

    Why was he also casing a Disney location, as late as the day before, if homosexuality was the object of his ire? What medical evidence can you adduce that confirms your post-mortem diagnosis of his being “super nuts?” Might there be a more Occamite explanation for why the decedent chose the Pulse nightclub for his massacre, especially in light of the fact that he revealed no animus against homosexuals in his 9-1-1 proclamation, instead citing the typical jihadi motivation of revenging American and Western military assaults on Muslims abroad?

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/14/total-narrative-reversal-pulse-nightclub-massacre-was-not-an-lgbt-motivated-attack/

    • Replies: @Ozymandias
  75. Why are people who prefer a different form of society being allowed to enter the USA?

    Why?

    I simply don’t get it. People who prefer Sharia law should stay in places where it’s practiced. People who prefer the social structures found in Central America and Mexico should stay there.

    Why are they coming to the USA, and then agitating to reproduce the very conditions from which they fled?

    Is this TOO INTELLECTUALLY DIFFICULT for most people to grasp?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @res
  76. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    There is no such thing as ‘homophobia’. Sure, some people hate homosexuality. But hate is not phobic. Such people are anti-homo but not ‘homophobic’.

    Concept of ‘homophobia’ would have us believe that homosexuality is so normal, natural, and harmless, therefore anyone who is turned off by it is suffering from some kind of mental illness or clinical malady. Nonsense. Homosexuality is a deviancy, a natural ABnormality at best. It involves gross acts among men where penises enter fecal holes of other men. Among women, it is silly, the idea of hole having ‘sex’ with a hole.

    Phobia is not mere dislike, aversion, or hostility. It is a panicked freak-out reaction of intense fear of something that is harmless. It is like a man screaming and panicking upon seeing a white mouse or a harmless spider.
    No one reacts to homos that way. Thus, ‘homophobia’ is a bogus term.
    It is a means to clinical-ize anti-homo positions as a form of mental illness.
    It’s like the Soviet Union used to treat anti-Marxist ideas as mental illnesses or communophobia or collectophobia. As Foucault said, one way to de-legitimize your enemies is to say that their views are not only wrong or misguided but clinically ill.
    Jews run the media and together with homos, they seek to discredit certain views as not only wrong but mentally ill. Thus, any opposition to homo agenda is called ‘homophobia’. ‘Antisemitism’ is used the same way. If you notice the reality of Jewish power and its detrimental effects on whites, you must be sick in the head and fantasizing stuff. Thus, you’re not only wrong but mentally ill and in need of institutionalization and re-education.

    Being a secular atheist, I accept homos are born that way and should be left alone.

    The problem is homos are homocentric, homo-chauvinist, and normophobic. They denounce as ‘homophobic’ even the slightest whiff of criticism or derision of the homo community. Even ‘gay jokes’ are ‘homophobic’. Are ‘Polack jokes’ then ‘Polophobic’? Are fat jokes ‘fatophobic’?

    Is being turned off by incest ‘incestophobic’?

    Homos call for the firing and blacklisting of anyone who believes in True Marriage between man and woman. They call for blacklisting of any actor or singer or athlete who won’t cave to the homo agenda. Consider what Perez Hilton and Homo-run media did to Carrie Prejean for supporting True Marriage.

    So, while I agree that Islamic medievalism on sexual matters is nuts in the modern age, no less nutty is the homo-worship as the new religion of the West. We are even forbidden to crack jokes about Bruce Jenner going around as a ‘woman’.

    So, this is a religious war between Allah-worshipers and homo-worshipers.

    It’s not about Islam vs Liberal West. Liberal West is lost forever with the rise of PC. Canada is on the cusp of its own Homoria Law which is like Sharia Law in favor of homos and trannies.

    http://louderwithcrowder.com/canada-want-to-jail-you-for-transphobia/

    Also, keep in mind that homo-pushers are now part of an aggressive globalist agenda to spread garbage like ‘gay pride’ parades into EVERY country.

    It’s not just Muslims but Christians who’ve had enough of this garbage and are beginning to push back.

    I mean do we need a new cold war with Russia because it won’t allow homo parades on Red Square? Fruisade or Fruit Crusade is the new crusade.

    Homos and trannies are so vain and narcissistic that they think all of us should worship penises in poopholes and penises-cut-off-to-be-replaced-with-fake-vaginas.

    Omar the Muslim was a sicko killer, but at least Muslims push back against the normophobic Fruisade more than anyone else.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326215/Thousands-anti-gay-protesters-riot-Georgia-Chaos-streets-Orthodox-priests-join-march-threaten-lash-gay-pride-activists-NETTLES.html

  77. Mark Green says: • Website
    @Priss Factor

    Always interesting. Always entertaining.

  78. Biff says:
    @another fred

    Mateen’s behavior is condoned by a large segment of Islam and praised by a significant number.

    Any sources for this claim?

  79. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Actually, the West is controlled by Jews, and Jews favor homos over all others.

    So, why is there muted criticism of Islam?

    It’s not because the Jews or Democrats are afraid of Muslims or have hardon for them.
    It is because they are committed to destroying the Muslim world.
    US, as the military arm of Jewish power, has been working to destroy the Middle East with all these Wars for Israel.
    Just look at the mess in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen.

    Actually, what Jews/Zionists fear most is modernizing Arab regimes with technology. So, Jews use US military to destroy secular leaders like Hussein, Gadaffi, and Assad.
    In the political vacuum created by the chaos, ragtag Muslim nuts move in and wreak havoc and turn Middle East into Road Warrior scenario. But Zionists love this because they want the Arab/Muslim world to slip back to chaos and medievalism. Such medievalism will never produce a modern military or engineers who can run nuclear reactors. Israel fears modern Arab states with tanks, jets, and nuclear reactors, not Arab states run amok by machete wielding morons who can’t even manufacture handguns.

    Now, in order to Jew-run US to keep destroying the Arab/Muslim world, it must pretend that it is friendly with Muslims.
    It’s like US used to say they loved the Vietnamese. THAT was why they were trying to save Vietnam by killing millions of Vietnamese.

    Imperialists always claim to love the people they are conquering and colonizing. Thus, they can rationalize their aggression.

    So, all this seemingly pro-Muslim position of the Western elites is just smoke-and-mirrors.

    As the West is ruled by Jews, the US is engaged in Wars for Israel. As a result, millions of Muslims/Arabs have been killed or displaced in the Middle East and North Africa.
    And the US has been able to get away with it by pretending to be pro-Muslim. So, US works with Saudis and other Sunni sheiks to send arms to terrorists fighting secular
    Arab governments and Iran.

    Suppose US officially said that it has a problem with Islam. Then, it would rile up ALL Muslims in the Middle East against the US, and then Wars for Israel couldn’t continue.

    In order for Wars for Israel to continue, the US must appear friendly to Islam. It is the ONLY way US can work with Saudis, Turks, and others to wreak havoc on Shia regimes allied with Iran or modern secular Arab states.
    If US officially denounced Islam, then even the Muslims in American allies like Saudi Arabia would call for DEATH TO AMERICA, and then US wouldn’t be able to wage Wars for Israel anymore.

    In order for US to destroy the Muslim world, it has to find allies among the Muslims.
    It’s like, in order for US to destroy Asian nations, it had to find allies among Asians.
    Today, US is allying with Japan and Vietnam against China.
    Likewise, in order for US to wage new cold war on Russia, it has to find allies among Slavic nations like Poland and Czechoslovakia.

    So, there is a certain paradox here. US pretends to be friendly with Muslims because its policy is to destroy the Muslim World. It is by feigning friendliness that the US can keep meddling in the Arab/Muslim world as a ‘friend’.
    It’s like Japan invaded China in WWII with the official propaganda that Japanese were protecting fellow Asians from Western Imperialism.
    And when the Soviet tanks rolled into Czechoslovkia in 1968, it was in the name of friendship and camaraderie. You see, the Russians were there as friends to help the Czech comrade defend wonderful socialism.

    The fact is homo-imperialists have been working hand-in-hand with Jewish supremacists in the destruction of the Middle East(and Ukraine and Georgia).

    The whole stuff about Obama as secret Muslim is totally bogus. He is a total puppet of Jews and homos. His policies have been totally pro-homo and have destroyed millions of Arab/Muslim lives in Libya, Yemen, and Syria. Obama is merely putting on a pro-Muslim act in order to work with US whore-allies like Saudi Arabia to destroy pro-Iran regimes like that of Assad in Syria.

    By allowing Muslim refugees into the US, it gives the false impression that US cares about Muslims. But why are there ‘refugees’ in the first place? Because Jew-run US messed up the Middle East and North Africa.
    Even in Afghanistan, why did Muslim nuts take over? Because US backed them against the secular Soviet-regime in the 80s.

    US destroys other nations but then pretends to be benign friend by taking in refugees. Recall that US destroyed Vietnam and killed millions but put on a humanitarian face by taking in all those Viet refugees who never would have existed in the first place if not for US intervention that divided Vietnam in the first place and precipitated the war.

    Also, as the Middle East is drained of its Muslim population, it gives Israel a chance to drive all Palestinians into the emptied lands in the dream of a Greater Israel.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
    • Replies: @dahoit
  80. Check out the piece by Linh Dinh for some contrasting observations on the same subject.

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/our-crooked-violent-future/#comment-1454065

  81. dahoit says:

    Before 1948 we cared not one iota about a clash of civilizations.This is all self made by US for Zions expansion and security(which of course will never be secure until their neighbors are also)and has nothing to do with Islam,it is globalization and our stupid wars on these regions,and blowback is a natural result.
    Live and let live,but our masters have a problem with human values.
    Trump;Stop the Israel shite,wtf cares.It won’t help with the serial liars anyway,its futile.
    Yankee come home.

  82. […] Buchanan looks at the negative effects that Muslim immigrants have on the western world. […]

  83. dahoit says:
    @Priss Factor

    The only issue I have with your last two posts is the monolithic angle of Jews and homosexuals as many do not fit that mold of vanity ,narcissism and holier than thou phoniness so prevalent in so many of both groups.A lot of these Jews and homosexuals are just normal humans living their lives,and have no avenue to the corridors of power,just like us.
    You wrote a lot of truth,though,the Muslims are victims that fight back,something very surprising for our idiots in charge.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  84. dahoit says:
    @another fred

    I read somewhere today where Awlaki said that there was no special fatwa(license?) to kill Americans.
    And what special license does America have,where millions are dead from our murder.
    This guys blowback was a natural progression in this idiotic war of terror,which we are losing btw.
    Come home America,enough of Israeli nation building.

  85. Ace says:
    @Mark Green

    Mateen had a burning grievance.

    Who knew homosexuals are behind all the bombing we engage in overseas?

    Your overall point is laughable. Muslims killed 80,000,000 in the Indian subcontinent and who knows how many in the conquests of Persia, the ME, N. Africa and Spain.

    They enslaved millions more and have driven Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Baha’is from their lands. Indonesian Muslims massacre Christians. They have no concept of civilized norms and treat women and infidels with contempt. Where there are Muslims in infidel land there is a slithering, scheming, suppurating mass of ingratitude, parasitism, hate, subversion, and treason.

    But it’s the last 60 years of Western actions that have driven these reasonable souls to murderous bonkerism.

    Copy that.

    • Replies: @Avery
  86. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Fidelios Automata

    but here in America, follow our rules or get out!

    hey dickhead, whose army & goddamned mercenaries and drones are crawling all over Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, killing their people, polluting forever w/ DPU & other shit their agricultural lands & waters, causing their babies to be born with heads for toes, vs what Sharia-law abiding states have military bases in 200 cities in USA?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  87. Art says:

    Yet, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama seemed either unable to recognize the roots of Mateen’s malice

    Neither does Pat – the roots of all this, is our killing of Muslims in the ME – end of story.

    It is simple – it is base human nature – we stop killing them and they will stop killing us.

    US Jews have brought this blood letting to our shores.

    p.s. Fox Jews is going crazy with political Muslim hate talk – demanding action.

    p.s. Bring our troops home. Defense defense – not offense!

  88. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    any autopsies?

    whose bullets killed 49 gay men/women, cop bullets or Mooslem bullets?

    btw, were these queers all queens & no butches? 300 queer queens could not disarm one screwed up gunman over a three-hour standoff? Hell, I thought queers could redesign an entire townhouse in less time. Maybe the gunmen threatened to spray paint rather than carefully prime-and-two-coats with lamb’s wool roller.

  89. Cato says:
    @dave chamberlin

    Dave, you’re a smart guy, and you are probably right about the assault weapons, but PB wrote a great post–one that should have been the speech of Donald Trump.

  90. joef says:

    a) Why should a law abiding gun owner have his firearms confiscated, when he did not do anything wrong. This is not only true of gun ownership, its true of property rights in general (should someone lose their property for the actions of another?).
    b) If guns are desired and illegal, they will be obtained through black market means. – – this was proven by the decades long drug war, prohibition, and the terrorist acts in Europe.
    c) Mass killings is a relatively recent phenomenon, guns were always prolific in our culture but mass killings were not. The answer probably lies in the deterioration of our culture. But even if that was not so you have radical islamic terrorism as current fact of life in the west and, as shown by recent events, if they don’t use guns then they will use explosives and knives.

    d) What the leftist really are disturbed by is that their politically correct coalition is nothing more than a fraud. Each of these groups have their own independent goals not withstanding the leftist desire to coral them into a white hating coalition. The Mexicans and Central American immigrants do not want to pay taxes for afro american entitlements, Muslims on the most part hate our MTV liberal culture, afro americans are mostly obsessed with race & don’t care about other liberal goals, and feminist just want to act like female version of bad boys & impoverish their husbands through divorce. Their is no coalition except in the liberal leftist mind!

  91. Avery says:
    @Ace

    Here you go: grateful Muslims expressing extreme gratitude to their Christian hosts in Londonistan.

    [Muslims in East London]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZe5hXodQg

    {Muslims killed 80,000,000 in the Indian subcontinent and who knows how many in the conquests of Persia, the ME, N. Africa and Spain.}

    You forgot Asia Minor.
    Before Muslim Turkic hordes invaded, it was home to around 20-25 million Christians.
    Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks,….Byzantium.
    Now there are less than 80K or so Christians left.
    Replaced by about 80 million Muslims (mostly Turks and Kurds), after the indigenous Christians were ethnically cleansed, forcibly Islamized, massacred – and subjected to Genocide.

    • Replies: @Ace
  92. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @dahoit

    “monolithic angle of Jews and homosexuals as many do not fit that mold of vanity, narcissism and holier than thou phoniness so prevalent in so many of both groups.”

    Yes, plenty of Jews are just ordinary people with no corridors of power.
    But most of them do seem to support the Jewish elites who pull all sorts of vile and nasty stuff. Most Jews don’t oppose corrupt Jewish power like white gentiles(especially of Northern European origin) stand up against white abuses and corruption.
    As for guys like Noam Chomsky, he is an intellectual and moral narcissist who seems to think he is right and righteous about everything. Karl Marx and Ayn Rand were the same way.

    Now, you can find narcissism among all groups. I just see more of it among Jews, Negroes, and Homos. And I think it has something to do with culture and genetics.

    Jews have 1000s of culture that saw themselves as the Chosen of God, therefore superior to other peoples spiritually.
    Also, Jews have higher IQ, and this makes them arrogant toward dumb goyim(and I can’t blame them entirely as goyim are indeed pretty dumb and easily hoodwinked by Jews. If I were Jewish, I would despise dumbass goyim too.)
    And then, there is the Jewish personality that developed through haggling and waggling. As Jews came to excel in business, the kind of trait favored was the pushy and cunning middlemen. So, Jews love to win deals and get the upperhand, like in David Mamet movies.
    And then, there is the Jewish suffering narrative. According to the Jewish narrative, no people suffered through the ages as much as the Jews. Yes, oppressed by all peoples even though Jews were always pure as snow. And Holocaust made Jews totally arrogant and morally narcissistic even though most of the world had nothing to do with it.
    I mean what did Palestinians have to do with WWII?

    As for Negroes, their arrogance and narcissism owes to superior speed and strength. Blacks feel beastly and powerful and feel that they are the master race of rappers whose ass should be kissed by fa**oty-ass white boys. They believe white women exist to put out to negroes and have negro babies. It’s like Ali screaming “I’m the greatest” or Mike Tyson talking about how he wanted to smash people’s face in.

    Also, blacks can holler louder and dance wilder, and this makes blacks feel superior to all others.

    But there is also the combination of lower IQ and aggression. If Jewish arrogance owes to higher IQ, blacks arrogance owes to lower IQ plus wildass aggression. Having lower IQ, blacks be thinking like angry spoiled chillun and fail to understand complexity, ambiguity, and shit. They be throwing tantrums like kids. They be bitching ‘black lives mattuh’ and shit even though blacks be killing one another.
    Also, blacks have more Thug Gene aka the Mao-warrior gene. This makes blacks more aggressive and uninhibited. This makes them less reflective, skeptical, self-examining. Whatever Negroes feel, they believes they is right, and there be no other truth. It’s like black preachers and rappers be hollering and thinking their volume and noise be da only troof they need. Blacks are naturally like this.
    Just look what the Milo the fruitkin had to deal with at Depaul. Blacks are natural thugs and jungle tyrants.
    Because blacks are so wildish and childish, their use of Slave Narrative is ridiculous. Sure, blacks have a right to remember the tragedy of slavery and see it as an injustice. But they fail to see that blacks practiced slavery forever themselves and that the black experience in America wasn’t only about oppression but liberation from jungle savagery. As Ali said, “Sheeeeeeeeiiiiit, I’s glad my granddaddy gots on dat boat.”
    Also, blacks fail to understand that whites have some legit gripes about blacks who commit too much crime and too often act like thugs.

    And then you got homos. True, some homos are nice people. But proportionally speaking, homos are among the most narcissistic people on Earth. It’s due to the homo/tranny combination of female narcissism(as women are more narcissistic than men) and male aggression(as men are more aggressive than women). Homos got the combo of Queen complex in SNOW WHITE(mirror mirror on the wall, who’s the fruitiest of them all) and King-of-the-hill complex.

    Men like power but aren’t so narcissistic. Women are narcissistic but not so obsessed with power — women are content to latch onto men of power.
    But homos are both narcissistic like girls and power-obsessed like the boys.
    A lot of homos are like the tooter-psycho in NO WAY OUT aka NO GAY OUT.

    This is why US is so messed up. It’s under the personality disorder terrorism of three very extreme peoples: Jews, Negroes, and Homos.

    I mean just think about it. It takes supreme amount of narcissism on the part of homos to believe that a homo man’s fecal hole is the sexual equivalent of a woman’s vagina that gives birth to life. It takes supreme arrogance to believe that what homos do is worthy of being associated with and blessed by the institution of marriage.
    It takes supreme arrogance for homos to destroy businesses that won’t cave to homo demands for ‘gay wedding cakes’ and other degeneracies.
    It takes supreme narcissism to associate homo deviancy of fecal penetration with the rainbow. It takes supreme narcissism for homos to shut down entire cities for massive homo ‘pride’ parades that celebrate degeneracy. Not only that but homo imperialists call for exporting this sickness to all five continents. They work as the proxy of Zio-Globalist maniacs.
    It takes supreme amount of narcissism among homos to claim that Jesus died on the Cross so that fecal penetrating fruitkins can get ‘married’ and play at ‘two daddies’. Homos now claim the churches and hang homo flags in churches. I’ve seen it.
    This is NOT ordinary behavior. It is pathologically narcissistic behavior. It is narcissism of pathology, in fact.
    It’s not about Tolerance of sexual deviance. It is about celebration of homo perversion as something as good or even better than real sex between men and women that produce life.
    And homos demand that anyone who opposes this fruisade(the fruit crusade) be destroyed, fired, blacklisted, and etc. They are 1000x worse than Joe McCarthy.
    And the fact is the majority of homo community supports this lunacy.

    In the 80s and 90s, so many homos died of AIDS cuz they were boofing each other like crazy. But homos take NO BLAME for any of that. They were pure as snow and ALL BLAME must go to “Reagan’s indifference”.

    Trannies are no better. They cut off their natural dicks and get fake pussies and tell the world that their fake pooters(or cooters) are just as good as real vaginas. I mean what’s up with that?
    Trannies say they have the ‘right’ to use women’s rooms. Bruce Jenner, having turned into Kim-Kardashian-wanna-be, thinks he is the center of the universe and even thinks he deserves to be anointed as ‘woman of the year’.

    You can’t honestly deal with people like that, no more than you can bargain with the Terminator. Homonator will not stop until we get tough with it. Really tough with it.

    The only people who might cause problem for those Three Monster Narcissistic groups is the Muslims. Muslims have their own kind of extremist outlook. They don’t play wussy like white Europeans, Latino Gomezers, and East Asians.
    White Europeans are mostly bland and altruistic. Latino Gomzers are hopeless. They’ve been under Conquitador rule for centuries but still live under it like peons. They are a bunch of Guillermos.
    And East Asians are drones and followers. They just go along with the Powers-that-be.

    In contrast, Muslims have the Angry Prophetic Outlook and don’t like to take shit from anyone.

    • Replies: @joef
  93. @another fred

    “You can find Christian freaks like the Westboro Baptists, but they are far less accepted by other Christians, and shunned by most, nor does their behavior rise to this level.”

    It doesn’t rise to that level because they know it won’t be tolerated. The extreme cannot exist without the tolerance of the moderate.

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  94. marylou says:
    @22pp22

    Right.
    Just make it illegal for terrorists to have guns.
    There. Problem solved.

  95. @D. K.

    “What medical evidence can you adduce that confirms your post-mortem diagnosis of his being “super nuts?”

    A man walks into a psychiatrist’s office wearing Saran Wrap shorts. The doctor says “I can clearly see you’re nuts.”

  96. Art says:

    An aside.

    Does anyone have any questions about our hero cops in Orlando?

    Three hours – really – it took three hours for them to go in there.

    WHY?

    • Replies: @Mark Green
  97. joef says:
    @Priss Factor

    RE: afro americans wildass aggression :
    That is true to a certain extent, but they also prefer easy victories. They usually do not know how to handle a tough hispanic, asian, or white who is willing to fight them. They much more prefer the bully approach of either being armed, or bigger, or outnumbering their opponent. Living in a rust belt city with plenty of afro american hostility I have much experience with (or was told by direct accounts of others I know) of afro americans initiating a physical attack and then crying when they lost to a person who was more then they bargained for. That is the majority of them, and the few who are tough for real are usually the ones who are running a drug corner ( or enforcers) because they are willing to fight no matter the odds. Do not confuse pro athletes with the average

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  98. Mark Green says: • Website
    @Art

    The cops all belong to government unions now. It’s a job with a great retirement package. Many benefits. Don’t blow it and get yourself hurt!

  99. Ace says:
    @Avery

    An excellent elaboration! Those videos are amazing. You watch that and then you realize the Treason Class is, as we speak, making plans to import 100s of thousands more as an “enrichment” of the nation. Cameron promised he’d reduce immigration to tens of thousands but last year it was over a million IIRC.

  100. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    hey dickhead, whose army & goddamned mercenaries and drones are crawling all over Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, killing their people, polluting forever w/ DPU & other shit their agricultural lands & waters, causing their babies to be born with heads for toes, vs what Sharia-law abiding states have military bases in 200 cities in USA?

    They were producing malformed babies and birth defects galore for hundreds of years due to generational cousin marriage . Their genes are degraded already .

    They don’t have bases in cities in the USA because of the fact that their genetics are degraded and they are not capable of doing so .

  101. @Priss Factor

    After all that- you are still for “tolerance” of homosexuality in the West?

    It is this type of secular shambling and non-belief in Absolute Truth that leaves the West rootless – and staggering in its own vomit.

  102. KenH says:
    @dave chamberlin

    You dig yourself a deeper hole with every post, but keep it up so we can all laugh at you. If you’re the most intelligent, the most thoughtful and the most excellent poster in internet history, then make your case for a so called assault rifle ban, so we can poke giant holes in it. Simple minded fools like you think the benefits of a ban are self evident when the weight of the evidence is against you.

    The only places a ban would work is in small, mostly white nations. That’s because only white people observe laws. France has an assault rifle ban and guess what, genius? Muslims have them and whites don’t and Muslims are using those assault weapons to murder white people. Again, white people observe laws, even tyrannical laws, while Muslims and other third world people often don’t, so your stupid gun bans won’t accomplish anything.

    French authorities even confiscated numerous banned weapons in mosques. So tell me, genius, if assault weapons are banned in France, and bans work, then why do Muslims still have them? Bombs are banned in Belgium, yet Muslims somehow acquired bombs to blow up the Brussels airport. Laws be damned.

    This is not about “weapons of war”, but one of race, third world immigration and the continued failure of government and law enforcement agencies at all levels to protect Americans from threats. It’s also about infantile, emotional people who think banning certain types of firearms will usher in an era of peace, rainbows and unicorns.

    • Agree: Ace
  103. @Priss Factor

    “….Maybe Orlando Massacre should be called Assacre.

    All those homo asses got it bad.”

    Ha…I’ll be runnin’ with that one!

  104. @Priss Factor

    I am a businessman- and you want the government to ban my ability to discriminate against
    the hiring of pervert/criminal homosexuals? Just because the Fecal Government removed 200 years of sensible legislation doesn’t negate common sense.

  105. KA says:
    @bunga

    Withdrawing as Spain did would be suicidal for the American war machine .

    It will reduce grievances but that is the last thing on the mind of the leaders whose careers are entirely militaristic ,are dependent on war adventures and don’t have much skill left other than to hunt faraway citizen from behind the safe zones.

    Is if America didnt have enough on its plate ,the search engines keep on humming away new findings . Here are 5 Stans sandwiched between Kabul ,Bejing,and Moscow . They are now latest to be added on the lists for corrective actions.

    —- “The U.S.’s primary interests in Central Asia are making sure the region doesn’t become a terrorist sanctuary and protecting it from Russian influence, a senior State Department official has testified. The statement suggests a shift in Washington (rhetorically, at least) toward a Central Asia policy oriented toward security

    The introduction to the testimony of Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Daniel Rosenblum at a congressional hearing last year was typical:

    “Since the fall of the Soviet Union nearly 25 years ago, the United States has supported the sovereignty, territorial integrity, and independence of the states of Central Asia, while also promoting the political and economic reforms that can ensure their long-term stability and prosperity. U.S. security is directly tied to a stable Central Asia. Central Asia’s energy resources and transport corridors can help drive regional and global economic growth in the decades to come. And some of Central Asia’s most serious challenges – such as transnational crime, terrorism, violent extremism, and climate change – affect our national interests as well, and require us to work closely together with them.”

    Rosenblum also highlighted increases in State Department aid for all five Central Asian republics. The proposed aid budget for fiscal year 2017 is $51.8 million for Kyrgyzstan, a 39 percent increase from last year; $41.6 million for Tajikistan (a 44 percent increase); $11.6 million for Uzbekistan (a nine percent increase); $8.8 million for Kazakhstan (a five percent increase); and $4.8 million for Turkmenistan (a 43 percent increase).

    http://lobelog.com/u-s-signals-greater-focus-on-central-asian-security/

  106. map says:
    @Mark Green

    They don’t hate us for our deeds. The fallacy that Muslims are simply reacting to the actions resulting from American foreign policy is clearly false.

    How is this obvious?

    No terrorism has targeted politicians or their families. After all, these are the one’s who architect US policy, not a bunch of gays in a club. Why haven’t the Muslims attacked American politicians?

    Because Muslims manifest the behavior of a tribe engaging in enemy actions against another tribe based on their religious precepts. Their goal is not to change US policy by inflicting harm on helpless populations. Clearly, that would never work since the government just apologizes for them without altering any foreign policy. They just want to kill infidels.

    • Replies: @joe webb
    , @Outwest
  107. joe webb says:
    @map

    right. Muzzies are genetically crazy, and cut one another up, including their women’s genitals, etc.
    Semites are nutty, jews included. None of them every invented rule of law, liberty and so on.

    Finally, I notice in the news that the perp had about 3 hours of free fire zone. This is incredible. The girlie boys could not get their balls together to rush him. They are total cowards, Total Cowards, which is a good reason , maybe the only reason, to ban them. At least straights only are about 75% cowards. And, and…where were the cops? eating donuts?

    Palestinians in 1948 were killing one-another instead of killing jews. nut cases…i have known a few…very prone to go off.
    The entire recent history of arabs shows what they are, stupid and volatile killers. I laughed when the Arab Spring was announced…and predicted what happened.

    The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend, some that Mark Green has yet to learn, among other matters.

    Joe Webb

    • Replies: @map
  108. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @NickG

    Westerners, especially women, have altruistic tendencies which are adaptive in the context of a homogenous populations.

    The media deliberately manipulate these altruistic tendencies to trigger self-destructive behavior as an act of ethnic competition.

  109. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Because the people who own the political parties and the media want it.

  110. anon • Disclaimer says:

    What is needed is a complete and utter bifurcation between the west and Islam. All Muslims must leave the west and we must get our troops out of all Muslim countries. Then there is no trouble.

  111. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Mass immigration from the 3rd world is a disaster.

    Jihad as a penance for sin is one of the most common reasons for jihadism so as almost everything in the West is a sin then mass immigration from the Islamic world is even worse.

  112. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Green

    “They hate us for our deeds”.

    Debatable.

    But regardless people who hate you can’t hurt you if they can’t get to you. And Muslims can’t get to us if we don’t let them into the country.

  113. map says:
    @joe webb

    But keep one thing in mind, Joe. I am not interested in demonizing Muslims, or fixing them, or killing them.

    Good fences make good neighbors and not building the Tower of Babel is perfectly reasonable.

    Consider:

    If Muslims are not here, then they cannot act on any of their real or perceived grievances against the US government for bombing their lands and killing their people.

    If Muslims are not here, then they cannot act on their religious ideas against the infidels and fall into their historical patterns of conquest and domination.

    If Muslims are not here, then they cannot be manipulated into becoming patsies or dupes for other people’s agendas.

    Certainly, Muslims have the right to their own countries and to live as Muslims if they please. That’s why it is not a punishment to send them back and end whatever ridiculous wars we are fighting.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  114. Ed says:

    As far as I know, no other major GOP figure agrees with Trump’s Muslim ban. Some like Ryan openly oppose it. Others like Sen. Flake cite it as a reason why it’s difficult if not impossible for him to support Trump.

    So on this issue there’s not any real daylight between Obama/Clinton & the GOP establishment.

    • Replies: @res
  115. […] must remain West, declares Pat Buchanan:“East is East and West is West, and never the twain shall meet, Till Earth and Sky stand […]

  116. Whatever valid points this article may or may not make are rendered meaningless by the fact that this was a staged event.

  117. Rehmat says:

    After reading a Canadian professor’s experience I have to agree with Pat Buchanan that Islam is certainly “irreconcilable” with the Christian West.

    Professor Julie Macfarlane (University of Windsor, Ontario), who went to office of the Rector of her church to seek spiritual guidance. It was 1975, and she was 16-year-old. The Rector told her that God wanted her to kneel and perform oral sex on him. Her story is published at the Church Times, the world’s leading Anglican newspaper, on December 18, 2015.

    “In 1975, at the age of 16, I worried that my faith was fading. I sought out the Rector in his church office for spiritual counseling. He told me that God wanted me to kneel and perform oral sex on him. This was the start of more than 12 months of constant sexual abuse by the priest. He continued to make me perform fellatio on him, and masturbated on me, in multiple locations. He waited for me in dark alleyways as I walked home from the restaurant where I worked as a dishwasher in the evenings,” writes Dr. Macfarlane.

    “The priest – whom I regarded as my spiritual mentor, a man of God whom everyone else in my church treated as authoritative on spiritual matters – told me that God wanted me to do this. I got away only by leaving for university (one the furthest distance from my home that I could find). Still I told no one. I tried to forget,” she added.

    “Finally, in 1999, I brought a complaint to the Sexual Misconduct Clergy Committee of the overseas diocese in which the priest was now located. After an investigation, the committee determined that there should be a full hearing under the Clergy Discipline Statute. Once this decision was conveyed to him, the priest resigned immediately. The Archbishop of the province wrote to me, and explained that his file would be marked “Not for employment”, to prevent his working in ministry in the future. (I have recently discovered that he is continuing to minister for a different, non-Anglican church),” Dr. Macfarlane says. Listen to her interview at BBC, recorded four days ago.

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/12/18/god-wanted-me-to-perform-oral-sex-on-my-priest/

  118. res says:
    @dc.sunsets

    Why are they coming to the USA, and then agitating to reproduce the very conditions from which they fled?

    This seems to have something to do with human nature. Your statement applies equally well to many of those leaving California for other states. I’m not sure how to explain the “reasoning” (feeling is probably more accurate, but that word is not typically used this way) behind this. Perhaps something like combining an ability to recognize bad conditions, an inability to understand what causes those conditions, and a desire for familiarity?

    Why are people who prefer a different form of society being allowed to enter the USA?

    Agreed (though I would make a distinction between visiting and immigrating). As so many others have noted, that is what different countries are for. (states too, though that has been lost with the decline in leaving decisions to the states)

  119. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    Trump is in a unique position of running against BOTH political parties.

    Though nominally the GOP nominee, he is the Third Party candidate of the American Party.

    But as long as he won’t name the biggest enemy of the white race, he too misses the mark.

  120. res says:
    @Ed

    As far as I know, no other major GOP figure agrees with Trump’s Muslim ban.

    So on this issue there’s not any real daylight between Obama/Clinton & the GOP establishment.

    Yet in late March 81% of Republicans agreed strongly or somewhat with ‘Do you agree or disagree that there should be “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on”?’

    Funny how that works…

    For data (including other crosstabs for this question) see Table 11 of the Full poll results PDF link at the bottom of https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/28/divide-muslim-neighborhood-patrols/

    • Replies: @Rehmat
  121. KA says:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/orlando-gay-club-shooter-omar-mateen-called-911-bathroom-article-1.2671481- Nevertheless, FBI investigators investigated Mateen, who was born in New York, for 10 months. They introduced him to confidential informants, spied on his communications and followed him. They also interviewed him twice.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/06/no_author/confirmed-fbi-introduced-florida-shooter-informants/

    https://theintercept.com/2016/06/12/before-nightclub-shooting-fbi-pursued-questionable-florida-terror-suspects/–For more than a year ending in April — a time during which investigators will now be looking for any clues from Mateen that might have been missed — the FBI in Miami focused on a counterterrorism sting that targeted James Medina, a homeless man with mental problems.

    An FBI informant recorded conversations with Medina in which he expressed interest in attacking a Jewish community center. Medina did not have weapons or connections to international terrorists. In fact, he was known in homeless circles, not terrorism ones.

    “C’mon, man, no terrorist is homeless,” Rick Wallace, who volunteered to serve lunch to homeless people in South Florida, told Local 10 ABC investigative reporter Bob Norman. “Who did he not threaten? He was insane.”

    According to the FBI’s affidavit, the informant, not Medina, came up with the idea of crediting the planned attack to the Islamic State.

    “You can do all that,” Medina told the informant. “Yeah, we can print up or something and make it look like it’s ISIS here in America. Just like that.”

    Nearly a year before Medina’s arrest, the FBI’s Miami office arrested another supposed terrorist, 23-year-old Cuban-American Harlem Suarez, also known as Almlak Benitez, whom former co-workers described as “a little slow.” The government alleged that Suarez conspired with an FBI informant to bomb a beach in Key West in support of the Islamic State. The FBI provided a fake backpack bomb.

    The Orlando shooting isn’t the first case to raise this question. In 2011, when the FBI investigated Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, agents did not deem him a threat.

    Instead, at about the same time, the Boston FBI started a nine-month sting operation against Rezwan Ferdaus, who had no weapons and no connections to international terrorists, and whose mental wellness had deteriorated so much that he was wearing adult diapers at the time of his arrest on terrorism charges.

    There are more Pat- This is from Britain – we do things together – no exception

    1 In December 2013, it emerged that MI5 had tried to recruit Michael Adebolajo, one of the killers of Fusilier Lee Rigby, just a few weeks before Rigby’s murder. Adebalajo had been on the radar of both MI5 and MI6 for over 10 years. He had been under surveillance in no less than five separate MI5 investigations, including one set up specifically to watch him. He was known to have been in contact with the senior leadership of Al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, based in Yemen, and he had been arrested in Kenya on a speedboat on the way to Somalia with five other youths, where he was suspected of hoping to join Al Shabaab.

    The Kenyans were furious when they handed him over to the Brits only for him to be turned loose, presumably to continue with his recruitment activities.

    The following month, 17-year-old Aseel Muthana left his family home in Cardiff to join rebel fighters in Syria. His brother Nasser had left three months earlier, and his family were worried that Aseel would try to join him. So they confiscated his passport, and informed the police of their concerns. The police kept the family under close scrutiny. They even arrived at his house at 5pm the day he left for Syria, to be told he hadn’t been seen since the night before. He boarded a flight at 8.35pm that night, using alternative travel documents issued by the Foreign Office. His family were horrified that he had been allowed to travel, without a passport, despite all their warnings.

    2- A similar case occurred in June 2015, when three sisters from Bradford traveled to Syria – it is thought to join IS – taking their nine young children with them. Again, the family had been under intense scrutiny from the police ever since their brother went to join IS in Syria earlier that year. And far from being unaware of the risk of their being recruited, counter-terrorist police were, it appears, deeply complicit in their recruitment.

    A letter from the family’s lawyers said they were “alarmed” by the police allegedly having been actively promoting and encouraging contact with the brother believed to be fighting in Syria:

    3 October 2014 saw the trial of Moazzam Begg, for various terrorism-related offences. Begg had admitted to training British recruits in Syria – but in his defense, he made the incendiary claim that MI5 had explicitly given him the green light for his frequent visits in a meeting they had arranged with him. MI5 admitted it was true, and the trial collapsed.

    4 Six months later, BBC Radio 4 broadcast an interview with Aimen Dean, a founding member of Al-Qaeda who was subsequently recruited by MI6 as a spy. Part of his work for MI6, he said, involved encouraging young impressionable Muslims to go and join the ranks of Al-Qaeda.

    5 Then in June 2015, Abu Muntasir, known as the godfather of British jihadists, thought to have recruited “thousands” of British Muslims to fight in Afghanistan, Kashmir, Burma, Bosnia and Chechnya, gave an interview to the Guardian, repenting his actions. He explained that he came back from fighting in Afghanistan to “create the link and clear the paths. I came back [from war] and opened the door and the trickle turned to a flood. I inspired and recruited, I raised funds and bought weapons, not just a one-off but for 15 to 20 years. Why I have never been arrested I don’t know.”

    6 hat same month, a second trial collapsed, for much the same reasons as Begg’s. Bherlin Gildo was arrested in October 2014 on his way from Copenhagen to Manila. He was accused of attending a terrorist training camp and receiving weapons training as well as possessing information likely to be useful to a terrorist. The Guardian reported that the prosecution “collapsed at the Old Bailey after it became clear Britain’s security and intelligence agencies would have been deeply embarrassed had a trial gone ahead.”
    7 At his trial, Bherlin Gildo’s lawyers provided detailed evidence that the British government itself had been arming and training the very groups that Gildo was being prosecuted for supporting. By Dan Glazenbrook –
    http://www.whenthenewsstops.org/2016/05/british-collusion-with-sectarian.html

    What do all these point to ?
    On one side US -UK support most fanatic opposition to stable secular regimes ( either for money from Saudi or Qatar or for signing up to Israeli ideas of fragmentation and control or both + always for the inherent promises of unlimited bounties accruing to the defense ,military,industry ) and on other side they coach educate and promote radical fanatic behaviors at home, ensnare the dumb and mentally retarded while ignore the possible double crossing by those who have been recruited .

    This is why your pain and anguish at the horrendous spectacle unfolded in Orlando has to be seen through a different prism ,otherwise it will manifest through the alteration distortions and even embellishment of a different cult,religion,or theology once Muslim menace has disappeared .
    Deception,greed,vicarious sadism ,and power of the ruling elites may explain the picture better more solidly than some verses out of a religious book ( Koran doesn’t support the killings or tortures of Homo , a government powered cleric might say so )

  122. Outwest says:
    @map

    Airplane into the Pentagon”?

    • Replies: @map
  123. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @joef

    This is a classic case of black narcissism and megalomania.

    http://www.radixjournal.com/blog/2016/6/15/waco-anatomy-of-a-shakedown

    Blacks have the thug-self-aggrandizement gene.

    They are incapable of self-reflection. This is why indulging blacks with moral righteousness is like giving alcohol to an alcoholic.

    When blacks begin to feel morally righteous, they think they are ALWAYS right and NEVER wrong. Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley are what ‘black conscience’ is about.
    Or the Duke Lacrosse case.

    And Jews with their chutzpah and homos with their poopshootzpah are hardly better.

    Jews have pushy narcissism, homos have bitchy narcissism, and Negroes have thuggish narcissism. But the West extols these three least self-critical and self-reflective groups as the moral and spiritual arbiters of right and wrong.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  124. Svigor says:

    Afghan Muslim culture is still better than Steve Sailers’ ‘White culture’.

    Afghans disagree. All of them would come here, if they could. Zero Americans would move to Afghanistan.

    End of argument.

    Rehmat says:
    June 15, 2016 at 12:37 pm GMT • 400 Words

    No problem with criminals molesting children in Islam, because under Islam, molesting children isn’t a crime. It’s just following the Holy Prophet’s example. Muslims are pieces of shit, and they’ll tell you so: just read this guy’s comments. Muslims are inveterate pedophiles, they’ve got whole communities working together to groom underage girls.

    It must really bother this clown that his culture is backward and barbaric, and his ancestors and countrymen are inbred dullards. That’s why he feels the need to make these ludicrous comments all the time.

    P.S., Muslims castrated hundreds of thousands of their black slaves. G**gle it for some fun reading.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Rehmat
  125. @Ozymandias

    A suggestion. Put the last word in your post in quotation marks, thusly: “moderate”. Sort of like the so-called “moderate Sunni” Muslim rebels in Syria that Hillary and the NeoCons are so fond of arming. Strangely enough – or not – they always seem to be working in concert with the “extremist Sunni” jihadis, fighting alongside them, and sharing the wealth of weaponry and ordnance with these “extremist Sunnis”. Doin’ their darndest to kill Christians, Alawi, Shia, Druze, Yazidis, Sufi Muslims, you name it. Say, do you really think that if somebody is doing that all of the time that they really deserve to be called “moderate”, since their behavior advances the agenda of “extremists” so very, very well?

    Yes, moderate Christians don’t seem to slide over into enabling extremists such as the Westboro Baptists nearly so readily as “moderate” Sunni Muslims slide over into enabling Sunni Muslim “extremists”. So, maybe there is some real merit in slowing down the influx of even “moderate” Sunni Muslims if they exert no corresponding “moderating” influence over the rise and metastasization of “extremist” Sunni Muslims in our midst. They just seem to give zero fucks about our cultural tradition of toleration. They don’t believe in it, and seem unwilling to learn why we so avidly do believe in it here. With something so central to the well-being – or even the possibility – of a secular Republic being resisted in the fiber of their beings, I would submit that they should not be welcomed here any more than criminals should be.

    The world is a big place, and they can set the rules in their own, distinctly non-secular societies if they so wish. Or, if they can find it in themselves, maybe they could try to create and maintain their own at least semi-secular nation states, although the backsliding in Turkey from an avowedly secular state may show that they really, really can’t help themselves, and that consequently permitting the immigration of a large body of Sunni Muslims into our secular state is suicidal. But, to be truly fair, if we would stop bombing the crap (at the behest of self-interested zionist assholes) out of the states wherein attempts to create and maintain some sort of semi-secular state have been made, then maybe they could pull it off. As matters now stand though, the answer would seem to be no.

  126. Corvinus says:
    @Svigor

    “No problem with criminals molesting children in Islam, because under Islam, molesting children isn’t a crime.”

    Undoubtedly, there is a level of accuracy in your statement, but per usual, you lack understanding.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/state-department-sexual-abuse-boys-rise-afghanistan

    “Muslims are pieces of shit…”

    SOME Muslims.

    “Muslims are inveterate pedophiles, they’ve got whole communities working together to groom underage girls.”

    SOME Muslims.

    “It must really bother this clown that his culture is backward and barbaric, and his ancestors and countrymen are inbred dullards. That’s why he feels the need to make these ludicrous comments all the time.”

    What is backward and barbaric is insisting that whites must look out, at all times, for whites, lest they be declared “anti-white”.

    “P.S., Muslims castrated hundreds of thousands of their black slaves. G**gle it for some fun reading.”

    European were no better in their treatment of black slaves.

  127. Corvinus says:
    @Priss Factor

    “Jews have pushy narcissism, homos have bitchy narcissism, and Negroes have thuggish narcissism. But the West extols these three least self-critical and self-reflective groups as the moral and spiritual arbiters of right and wrong.”

    In reality, narcissism is a HUMAN trait, not one that is definitive of a particular group.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
  128. Corvinus says:
    @map

    “If Muslims are not here, then they cannot act on any of their real or perceived grievances against the US government for bombing their lands and killing their people.”

    Everyday, Muslim Americans interact in our society without incident. It’s only an extremely small subset that embraces Jihad.

    “If Muslims are not here, then they cannot act on their religious ideas against the infidels and fall into their historical patterns of conquest and domination.”

    Historical patterns of conquest and domination is representative of ALL groups, not just Muslims.

    “If Muslims are not here, then they cannot be manipulated into becoming patsies or dupes for other people’s agendas.”

    And if “anti-whites” are not here, then they cannot be manipulated into becoming patsies or dupes for other people’s agendas, like the “elite”, right?

    So, where does it end?

    “Certainly, Muslims have the right to their own countries and to live as Muslims if they please. That’s why it is not a punishment to send them back and end whatever ridiculous wars we are fighting.”

    So long as Muslims have American citizenship, it is illegal and unconstitutional to deport them.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Auntie Analogue
    , @map
  129. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    It must be real nice to be such a smug, sanctimonious, self-righteous piece of Sh**, huh buddy?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  130. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website
    @Corvinus

    “In reality, narcissism is a HUMAN trait, not one that is definitive of a particular group.”

    Yes, all human emotions and forms of consciousness are human traits.

    But just as some individuals have MORE of it, some groups have more of it.

    It’s like all dogs and breeds of dogs have some predatory instinct. They evolved from wolves, after all.

    But some breeds of dogs are more aggressive and vicious than others.

    So, I agree that narcissism can be found in all groups and in all individuals.

    But surely there are more intellectual narcissists among Jews.
    And there are more athletic narcissists among blacks.
    Blacks love to showboat in sports. Not all blacks, but they have little use for restraint and sportsmanship. They evolved to chuck spears at hippos and then dance like a mofo when they killed one.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  131. @Corvinus

    “Everyday, Muslim Americans interact in our society without incident. It’s only an extremely small subset that embraces Jihad.”

    My dear Corvinus, Moslems are 1% of the U.S. population yet commit terrorism way above their weight.

    “So long as Muslims have American citizenship, it is illegal and unconstitutional to deport them.”

    “Except, of course, for President Obama who presumes special power to kill Moslems born in the U.S. – as when Obama ordered the lethal drone attack on U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki, whose mosque the American-born jihadi mass-murdered Nidal Hasan attended.

    By now everyone else here knows that you have never let inconvenient “hatefacts” get in the way of your sophist apologetics.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  132. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “It must be real nice to be such a smug, sanctimonious, self-righteous piece of Sh**, huh buddy?”

    No, that’s your description as an elitist white ho demands that whites must only align with whites, that whites have absolutely no liberty to decide for themselves who they associate with, lest those decisions from your vantage point are “anti-white”.

  133. Corvinus says:
    @Priss Factor

    “But just as some individuals have MORE of it, some groups have more of it.”

    Except that you are making a value judgement regarding narcissism.

    “But surely there are more intellectual narcissists among Jews.”

    No, not surely. Perhaps. Maybe. Could be. If you are going to say “surely”, best have specific criteria or standards by which

    “And there are more athletic narcissists among blacks.”

    Perhaps in the NBA, considering blacks dominate that sport. But in hockey, tennis, or baseball, for example, one could reasonably make the argument that athletic whites in those sports dominate that trait.

    “Blacks love to showboat in sports. Not all blacks, but they have little use for restraint and sportsmanship.”

    Obviously you don’t about David Robinson. Or Magic Johnson. Or Tiny Archibald. Or Oscar Robertson. The list goes on. Again, you are making merely a value judgement.

  134. Corvinus says:
    @Auntie Analogue

    “My dear Corvinus, Moslems are 1% of the U.S. population yet commit terrorism way above their weight.”

    They would if the United States experienced monthly attacks. We don’t. Every group has their radicals. Some decide to use violence. Otherwise, the super-majority of Muslim-American citizens are law abiding. If you want to go all “Chicken Little”, be my guest.

    ““Except, of course, for President Obama who presumes special power to kill Moslems born in the U.S. – as when Obama ordered the lethal drone attack on U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki, whose mosque the American-born jihadi mass-murdered Nidal Hasan attended.”

    Anwar got what he deserved. He was a traitor.

  135. Rehmat says:
    @Marcus

    What a stupid response? Why don’t you ask 500 US Congressmen and 90 Senators to move to Tel Aviv which they visit so often to enjoy visiting 280 Jewish brothels all expenses paid by ADL and other American Jewish groups.

    In 2003, Israeli army rabbi, Colonel Eyal Qarim issued the Jewish fatwa that rape of enemy women was not forbidden. He based his interpretation of Jewish Bible (OT) which quoted (sic) prophet Moses to kill all female prisoners except 3-year-old girls and use them as sex-slaves.

    In March 2014, hundreds of Israeli women demonstrated in Tel Aviv against the ever-growing rape culture in the Zionist entity. According to Israeli newspaper YNet on March 30, the protest was organized by a group of Jewish women, all social activists, chanting slogans “Enough with rape culture” and “Sexual assault = Social phenomenon”. The protest came as the result of news that Israeli energy and water minister Silvan Shalom had rapped a female staff 15 years ago.

    n 2007, Israeli president Moshe Katsav was forced to resign over allegations of rape. He was convicted to serve 7-year in jail.

    British professor Golbarg Bashi at Rutgers said: “What is the difference between lynching young Black men in Southern United States on the mere assumption of “laid hands on a White woman’ and criminalizing a Palestinian man for having done the same to a European Ashkenazi woman?” The answer is expel all African and Arabs from the Zionist entity.

    https://rehmat1.com/2014/07/22/israels-jewish-rape-culture/

    • Replies: @Marcus
    , @Avery
  136. Rehmat says:
    @Svigor

    So Moshe you wants the readers to believe that the 90,000 US and NATO soldiers currently stationed in Afghanistan are in fact searching for your sisters disappeared from Auschwitz labor camp in 1944?

    How come, Donald Trump never claimed that there are a dozen Afghan soldiers planning to assassinate American Jewish lawmakers!!

    Last year, in order to show its hatred for Russian president Vladimir Putin, the Organized Jewry did not invite him to attend the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz labor camp, the greatest Holocaust PR lie. Putin however, did preside over a ceremony at the Jewish Museum in Moscow where he denounced those trying to write the Red Army out of Second World War history.

    For decades, the Holocaust industry has been telling the world that Auschwitz was liberated by the Soviet Red Army consisting of Russians, Ukrainians, Belarussians and others on January 27, 1945, the day which is now honored by all the Zionist-controlled government leaders in Europe and North America as the International Holocaust Day…..

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/02/06/anatol-shapiro-auschwitz-liberator-or-mass-murderer/

  137. Marcus says:
    @Rehmat

    Hey, I don’t like Isrull either. We should cut off all aid to them and recognize Palestine.

  138. Rehmat says:
    @res

    I must say, Brits have more guts to stand up to their past history of expelling Jewish communities for nearly 350 years.

    Last year, BBC’s ‘Sunday Morning Live Show’, held a debate to find out whether Brits should be “proud or ashamed” of their country’s history in the past (there was no need to discuss British role in helping European Jews to occupy Palestine, or its part in the destruction of Muslim nations, such as, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, etc.).

    The debating panel included British historian Dr. Kate Williams, James Delingpole, editor Breitbart London, an Israeli propaganda website, Pastor Peter Owen-Jones and Dilly Hussain, British journalist born to a Bengali Muslim immigrant family.

    James Delingpole, without mentioning that his Jewish ancestors were kept out of England for nearly 350 year, not as result of so-called antisemitism as every Zionist idiot would like you to believe, said the Brits have every reason to be proud of their history and democracy.

    Kate Williams and Peter Owen-Jones said that there are many things in British history which make us proud – while there are several things which put us to shame. Ms. Williams praised Britain for abolishing slavery (1834), which was in fact practiced until 1956. She also credited her country for giving birth to famous Magna Carta without mentioning that it benefitted Jewish bankers the most.

    Dilly Hussain on his part, upset panel members, the show host and millions of viewers by saying that he cannot find a single thing in British history to be proud of. Instead, he praised the Ottoman Empire, which was like putting gasoline on fire.

    “I was asked a number of challenging questions by the presenter, Sian Williams, one of which was whether I was proud of any aspect of British history, to which I said nothing. It is important to note that prior to this question being asked, the contextual build up to it was Britain’s colonial crimes, and Mr Delingpole’s reluctance to acknowledge any of it – be it the Bengal famine or the Amritsar massacre,” Dilly Hussain said.

    Dilly Hussain claims that he received hundreds of tweets calling him a traitor – while most of them supported Delingpole’s views…….

    https://rehmat1.com/2015/06/30/bbc-are-you-proud-to-be-british-for-expelling-jews/

  139. Priss Factor [AKA "Anonymny"] says: • Website

    In THE REVENGE OF THE NERDS, nebbish characters use their superior wits against a blonde ‘Aryan’ fraternity. But they still lack for muscle and manliness, so they ally with a Macho Black Fraternity. It’s like how Jews waged their War on Whiteness. They used their brains, but wit wasn’t enough to topple white prestige.

    In order to destroy white manhood, they needed the alliance with a kind of manhood that could beat up whites. Jews allied with Negroes and promoted black brawn to de-legitimize white manliness. that was beaten by black fists in sports. So, white boys came to worship Negro athletes and white girls now have babies with Negroes.

    Jewish War on Christianity is of secondary importance. White people can still be powerful without Christianity. Indeed, the demise of Christianity may only empower whites by ridding them of the soft heart of universal brotherhood and Christian guilt that is the prototype of ‘white guilt’.

    But when white men lose manly pride and their women to Negroes, the white race is over and done with. Whiteness has been destroyed at the genetic level. A white ‘leftist’ can be ideologically made into a white nationalist with a change of mind. But a mudshark uses her white womb to produce black babies for black men. Her womb has turned traitor at the biological level.

    PC wants to turn all white women onto jungle fever and turn white men into a bunch of pansy cucks via all this multi-gender identification that encourages even straight white males to see themselves as fey if not ‘gay’.

  140. Avery says:
    @Rehmat

    {What a stupid response? }

    You are the one who is stupid, you idiot.

    Here is what you wrote:
    {Afghan Muslim culture is still better than Steve Sailers’ ‘White culture’.…}

    Proper retort:
    {Why not move there? ….}

    You are the idiot that claims Afghan Muslim culture is allegedly “better”.
    If it is better, why are you, an IslamoFascist parasite still living in Christian Canada. If Afghan culture is “better”, why are you still living in a culture that is supposedly “worse”?

    {Why don’t you ask 500 US Congressmen and 90 Senators to move to Tel Aviv…}

    Because members of US Congress are not claiming Israel is a better place for them than US.
    Or that Jewish Israeli culture is better than Christian American culture.
    You idiot.

  141. This mass murderer was found with a semi automatic rifle that holds clips with a maximum capacity of 30 rounds. The 1994 Federal Assault weapons ban expired in 2004 thanks to pressure applied by the idiots in this country that think it is everyone’s right to defend themselves with these insanely murderous weapons.

    I’ve heard the following defenses so far that I am wrong.

    1)my grammar is bad
    2)you are a liberal
    3)I will hide my hunting rifle in the backyard in a PVC pipe, you will never take it from me.
    4)I am the idiot
    5)only white people follow laws
    6)it didn’t stop the attack in France
    7)this wasn’t a fully automatic weapon

    #6and #7 are true, the rest of the arguments are silly at best. I wish intelligent republicans the very best, I am not a liberal. We unfortunately have a small percentage of our population that are mentally unbalanced. They come from all types of backgrounds. Because we cannot anticipate who these people are weapons such as the one used in Orlando absolutely positively should not be in the hands of anyone but the military. They serve absolutely no purpose but to kill large numbers of people. Why you fools think otherwise is beyond me. If these weapons would be illegal they would cost over 10,000 dollars on the black market if available at all which means loner losers like this fool would never own one. As it is this weapon is readily available for $600.

    This is a no brainer. You are not serving the cause of conservatism in any way shape or form by attaching such retarded arguments to this political sentiment. Intelligent conservatives cannot align themselves with the idiot causes like hating all minorities, all immigrants, or allowing the public access to weapons whose only purpose is to kill large numbers of people.

    You cannot and will not elect a republican president if you continue supporting stupid policies as part and parcel of the republican brand.

  142. map says:
    @Corvinus

    “Everyday, Muslim Americans interact in our society without incident. It’s only an extremely small subset that embraces Jihad.”

    Trivially true. There is nothing that the peaceful majority of Muslims bring to America that offsets the Jihadi subset, no matter how small. Besides, what makes you think this majority will remain peaceful? Wasn’t Mateen “peaceful” before circumstances brought on his sudden jihad syndrome? Every Jihadi starts out as peaceful Muslim.

    “Historical patterns of conquest and domination is representative of ALL groups, not just Muslims.”

    Exactly. So why do you want such a group imported into your territory in sufficient numbers to challenge you for control?

    “And if “anti-whites” are not here, then they cannot be manipulated into becoming patsies or dupes for other people’s agendas, like the “elite”, right?”

    Jihadis are not merely “anti-white’s” being manipulated by the “elite.”

    “So, where does it end?”

    It ends where all things end: at the point of a distinction. There is no slippery slope to concern with. Besides, if Leftists are that worried about getting caught up in the purges, then maybe they should thing twice about undermining a country.

    “So long as Muslims have American citizenship, it is illegal and unconstitutional to deport them.”

    That assumes the Constitution is not a living document that must be interpreted contextually along with Learned Judges duly appointed to the task…or not. Isn’t that the Lefty Rule Set you guys created? Thank you for that. I look forward to having the leeway to not interpret the Constitution as a suicide pact.

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  143. map says:
    @Outwest

    There are much softer yet equally effective targets.

  144. map says:
    @dave chamberlin

    Gun controllers are bad people. They are fundamentally dishonest. They support gun control because they want to do bad things to you that they otherwise could not do because you are heavily armed.

    Look at the power that one man with a near-military grade weapon has over the unarmed and disarmed. Despite the numerical superiority, the unarmed and disarmed were hunted down and killed like rabbits. It is this power that the leftists, democrats, and big government types want to have over you and to exercise at their discretion without any consequence or reprisal. This night club, to them, is like an instructional manual, like Animal Farm, not a warning but a blueprint for action. Why bother with these pesky elections and constituencies when they can disarm their political opponents, import political ringers, arm their friends and have at their disarmed enemies…you?

    There could be a mass killing every night with an AR-15 and it still wouldn’t change my mind about owning one, just like car accidents don;t change my mind about owning cars. Hell, the government will probably be doing those mass killings by then if it wasn’t already.

    • Replies: @Dave Chamberlin
  145. @map

    @map

    I think you are the honest voice of people opposed to gun control of semi automatic weapons. Most folks against any kind of gun control know enough to spin their argument so they don’t sound so……paranoid.

    While you are at it why don’t you fight for the right to own flame throwers, bazookas, tanks and armed drones. The bad people are coming after you Map, and they are going to do bad things to you unless you arm yourself with everything.

    They might even use mind control and force you to take your meds.

    • Replies: @map
  146. Corvinus says:
    @map

    “There is nothing that the peaceful majority of Muslims bring to America that offsets the Jihadi subset, no matter how small.”

    Nothing, huh. Zero. Zilch. Nada. That’s a bold statement. Care to offer any proof?

    “Besides, what makes you think this majority will remain peaceful?”

    Decades of living in the United States without perpetual, widespread incidents.

    “Every Jihadi starts out as peaceful Muslim.”

    Actually, every Jihadi starts out as a Muslim who perverts the faith and lashes out in violence.

    “So why do you want such a group imported into your territory in sufficient numbers to
    challenge you for control?”

    First, Muslims are not being “imported” into America. Second, how are American Muslims “challenging me”? For control of what?

    “Besides, if Leftists are that worried about getting caught up in the purges, then maybe they should thing twice about undermining a country.”

    Why would ANYONE get caught up in this imaginary purge? Are you looking forward to partaking in it? Why? Moreover, who is undermining this country?

    “I look forward to having the leeway to not interpret the Constitution as a suicide pact.”

    So are you waiting to be appointed to a federal judgeship? Really? Ok, what are your credentials?

    • Replies: @map
  147. map says:
    @Dave Chamberlin

    It’s funny. You act like the gun control debate just started last year. You forget that there is at least 50 years of you gun grabbers spreading your lies and propaganda. You guys predicted, for example, that the spread of concealed carry would result in massive crimes in those particular states and the opposite happened. Why should anyone believe you? I doubt you believe yourself. It’s obvious you have other agendas then the ones stated. More importantly, it’s very easy for me to convince others that you have other agendas, whether or not you actually do.

    The weapons you list are bulky, ineffective and expensive. Most are crew-based weapon systems unsuited for the defensive tasks demanded.

    Government oppression requires surgical precision. That requires large numbers of men with small arms. What’s more effective at dragging you out of your house at 3 am? A tank parked in front of your house threatening to blow you up unless you come out, or a bunch of thugs kicking down your door and physically removing you? The tank is limited to the threat and blowing you and your family to pieces. If you know your fate, then you may opt to just get blown to pieces. The government then loses you as a resource they would like to control. Armed men, on the other hand, provide the additional option of pulling you out of your home, separating your family, sending your wife and daughter to service democrats on the east coast and your son to a slave camp on the west coast, while your house is given to a party apparatchik and you get your brains blown out on the front lawn. See how much more effective and useful government thugs with small arms are?

    Now, if you have your own small arms, then breaking into your home becomes a far riskier proposition. You may lose, but the other side loses as well. Eventually, you run out of jockeys willing to lay down their lives to kick in doors on behalf of Nancy Pelosi. Government oppression becomes that much more difficult.

    It’s not an accident that the government is so focused on small arms.

  148. map says:
    @Corvinus

    “Nothing, huh. Zero. Zilch. Nada. That’s a bold statement. Care to offer any proof?”

    I don’t bear the burden of proof. You do. You are the one insisting that patterns of systemic, ideologically-based violence emanating from one particular group be ignored. You are like a villager in outer China, upon hearing the Mongols are coming, insisting that this is not a problem because all Mongols aren’t bad.

    “Actually, every Jihadi starts out as a Muslim who perverts the faith and lashes out in violence.”

    Yeah. Right. They’ve been “perverting” the faith for 1400 years.

    “First, Muslims are not being “imported” into America. Second, how are American Muslims “challenging me”? For control of what?”

    Of course they are being imported. They live on welfare in the United States, as they do in Europe. They are challenging you by establishing Islamic spaces that they control. The first space is the interpretation of Islamic violence in the media. Muslim blows up because of a personal crisis and a correct reading of the Koran, and the media does whatever it can to create non-Islamic interpretations of Islamic violence. This sets up successive rounds of Islamic violence. Wash. Rinse and repeat.

    “Why would ANYONE get caught up in this imaginary purge? Are you looking forward to partaking in it? Why? Moreover, who is undermining this country?”

    History, my friend, history. Subversives and traitors are dealt with harshly and with extreme prejudice. I won’t need to partake in it. Others who are far more motivated will. I am just enjoying your decline.

    “So are you waiting to be appointed to a federal judgeship? Really? Ok, what are your credentials?”

    Anyone can do the work of a federal judge. Ask your buddy, Chairman Mao.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  149. Corvinus says:
    @map

    “I don’t bear the burden of proof. You do. You are the one insisting that patterns of systemic, ideologically-based violence emanating from one particular group be ignored.”

    That’s not how discourse works. You made the claim “here is nothing that the peaceful majority of Muslims bring to America that offsets the Jihadi subset, no matter how small”. It is now incumbent that you submit evidence.

    “You are like a villager in outer China, upon hearing the Mongols are coming, insisting that this is not a problem because all Mongols aren’t bad.”

    Except Muslims are not “invading”. Mongols at that point in time were hell-bent on physically dominating their enemy. Moreover, few, if any villagers there would have had the intellectual mindset to take that position.

    “Yeah. Right. They’ve been “perverting” the faith for 1400 years.”

    SOME Muslims, yes.

    “Of course they are being imported. They live on welfare in the United States…”

    You can’t be THAT ignorant.

    http://www.pewforum.org/2009/12/17/little-support-for-terrorism-among-muslim-americans/

    http://muftah.org/countering-myths-about-american-muslims-the-american-ness-of-muslims/#.V2QhNyMrIwc

    “The first space is the interpretation of Islamic violence in the media.”

    The MEDIA controls that space, not Muslims.

    “Muslim blows up because of a personal crisis and a correct reading of the Koran”

    No, not correct reading. A PERVERTED reading.

    “and the media does whatever it can to create non-Islamic interpretations of Islamic violence.”

    So, which is it, is it Muslims or the media that controls the space? Make up your mind.

    “This sets up successive rounds of Islamic violence. Wash. Rinse and repeat.”

    Successive means “consecutive, in a row, straight, sequential, in succession, running”. Radical Muslim violence in America has been other than successive.

    “Subversives and traitors are dealt with harshly and with extreme prejudice. I won’t need to partake in it. Others who are far more motivated will.”

    Just what I thought, hoping someone else does your dirty work.

    “I am just enjoying your decline.”

    I thought Jews and their “anti-white elites” control the media, Hollywood, and the government, so how are they in decline?

    “Anyone can do the work of a federal judge.”

    Actually, one needs a law degree and experience. Again, are you really this ignorant?

    • Replies: @map
  150. map says:
    @Corvinus

    • Muzammil Siddiqi, chairman of both the Fiqh Council of North America, which dispenses Islamic rulings, and the North American Islamic Trust, which owns most of the mosques in the U.S.: “As Muslims, we should participate in the system to safeguard our interests and try to bring gradual change, (but) we must not forget that Allah’s rules have to be established in all lands, and all our efforts should lead to that direction.”

    • Omar Ahmad, co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the top Muslim lobby group in Washington: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

    • CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”

    • Imam Siraj Wahhaj, director of the Muslim Alliance in North America: “In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.”

    • Imam Zaid Shakir, co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkeley, Calif.: “If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshaled our resources, we’d take over this country in a very short time. . . . What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.”…

    These are the words of an invader and their Jihadis are their soldiers. But, no matter. So far, they have not killed anyone important. That’s why, Corvinus, you are able to sit here and make smug comments. Wait until Muslims hit Sidwell Friends or some other boarding school and it’s 100 kids of the country’s movers and shakers that are injured or killed.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  151. Corvinus says:
    @map

    • Muzammil Siddiqi, chairman of both the Fiqh Council of North America, which dispenses Islamic rulings, and the North American Islamic Trust, which owns most of the mosques in the U.S.: “As Muslims, we should participate in the system to safeguard our interests and try to bring gradual change, (but) we must not forget that Allah’s rules have to be established in all lands, and all our efforts should lead to that direction.”

    His statement is no different than today’s Christian or Jewish leaders in the United States who use their Holy Book to push a religious agenda.

    Dr. Siddiqi is the current President of the Academy of Judaic-Christian and Islamic Studies at the University of California in Los Angeles (UCLA). He has participated in many inter-religious dialogues. He spoke at the World Assembly of the World Council of Churches in Vancouver, Canada and the World Assembly of Religions in Vatican, the World Parliament of Religions in Chicago. He participated in many seminars organized by the National Council of Churches and National Council of Christians and Jews in USA. In September 2001 on the National Day of Prayer and Remembrance he was invited by President George Bush to lead a Muslim Prayer at the Interfaith Prayer Service at Washington National Cathedral. In September 2006 he was again invited by President Bush to lead an interfaith prayer on the 5th Anniversary of 9/11 at Ground Zero in New York.

    • Omar Ahmad, co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the top Muslim lobby group in Washington: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Quran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

    Would not a devout Catholic replace “Quran” with “Bible” and “Islam” with “Roman Catholicism”? No different.

    • CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”

    Here is the ENTIRE quotation.

    Hooper has candidly stated that while he does not endorse the violent tactics of Islamic radicals, he does share their desire to impose Islam on all of America. “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future,” he told the Minneapolis Star Tribune in a 1993 interview. “But I’m not going to do anything violent to promote that. I’m going to do it through education.”

    Again, a religious figure touting their beliefs. Why do hate the First Amendment?

    • Imam Siraj Wahhaj, director of the Muslim Alliance in North America: “In time, this so-called democracy will crumble, and there will be nothing. And the only thing that will remain will be Islam.”

    Members of the Alt Right (see Mark Citadel’s website) make similar claims. They desire to dismantle democracy and create a monarchy based on God’s law. Anyone who does not adhere to this new government will be purged. Do you agree with Citadel?

    • Imam Zaid Shakir, co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkeley, Calif.: “If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshaled our resources, we’d take over this country in a very short time. . . . What a great victory it will be for Islam to have this country in the fold and ranks of the Muslims.”…

    This is a very interesting quote that is repeated by dozens of conservative websites, yet nary the context or source.

    “These are the words of an invader and their Jihadis are their soldiers.”

    No , these are words of religious figures no different than Christians or Jews saying the same thing. Nothing nefarious here.

    ”But, no matter. So far, they have not killed anyone important.”

    Exactly, just like Christian and Jew wordsmiths.

    “That’s why, Corvinus, you are able to sit here and make smug comments.”

    The same way that “smug” Christians and Jews who take the EXACT approach as these men virulently promote their faith?

    “Wait until Muslims hit Sidwell Friends or some other boarding school and it’s 100 kids of the country’s movers and shakers that are injured or killed.”

    You’ll be waiting a long time.

    • Replies: @map
    , @map
  152. HBD Guy says:

    Clinton is ignorant of the dangers of Islam. Obama if not a Muslim himself, is sympathetic to Islam and is a traitor to his country and duties as a president.He must feel he has more in common with Mateen than the average white man from middle America

  153. map says:
    @Corvinus

    “His statement is no different than today’s Christian or Jewish leaders in the United States who use their Holy Book to push a religious agenda.”

    There are no Christian or Jewish leaders killing people like me in public. I can happily ignore their Holy Book and not worry about any reprisals. It is Islam that is primarily engaging in the religious murder of non-Moslems in Western countries.

    I don’t care about the background or credentials of these subversives and traitors imported and nurtured by the Left. I don’t care about their self-professed claims to never do violence. They have other cohorts do the violence for them while they push “education.” This is the typical two-step of organizations like these: one side does the politicking and looks respectable while the other side does the murder. It is Sein Fein on the one hand and the IRA on the other. Why should I be fooled by this?

    Corvinus, why is it that you are too stupid to see that the Left is importing these people to use them as street and political muscle against the innocent population of Americans?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  154. map says:
    @Corvinus

    There is nothing that even the most extreme Christian and Jewish groups do that pose the equivalent, everyday physical threat that Moslems pose. Nothing.

    Face it, Corvinus. You don’t have an argument. There is no slippery slope, no constitutional violation, and no moral negative to removing Muslims from America.

  155. Corvinus says:
    @map

    “There are no Christian or Jewish leaders killing people like me in public.”

    I see you are now retreating from your original position and trying a new angle. Except the five leaders you listed are also not killing people like you in public.

    Moreover, there are “Christian” leaders who want to kill people like yourself in public. You are human, right?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/14/pastor-refuses-to-mourn-orlando-victims-the-tragedy-is-that-more-of-them-didnt-die/

    “I can happily ignore their Holy Book and not worry about any reprisals.”

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting

    “It is Islam that is primarily engaging in the religious murder of non-Moslems in Western countries.”

    Corrected for accuracy –> Radical religious groups are responsible for murdering those who oppose their viewpoints, including those in Western countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

    “I don’t care about the background or credentials of these subversives and traitors imported and nurtured by the Left. I don’t care about their self-professed claims to never do violence. They have other cohorts do the violence for them while they push “education.” This is the typical two-step of organizations like these: one side does the politicking and looks respectable while the other side does the murder. It is Sein Fein on the one hand and the IRA on the other. Why should I be fooled by this?”

    We are all aware of you not caring, especially about the truth.

    “Corvinus, why is it that you are too stupid to see that the Left is importing these people to use them as street and political muscle against the innocent population of Americans?”

    No one is being “imported”. Laws have been enacted for immigrants to come to our country. Work within the system to change the law.

    “There is nothing that even the most extreme Christian and Jewish groups do that pose the equivalent, everyday physical threat that Moslems pose. Nothing.”

    Now who is stupid when speaking in absolutes?

    “Face it, Corvinus. You don’t have an argument. There is no slippery slope, no constitutional violation, and no moral negative to removing Muslims from America.”

    Citizens of America who are Muslim being forcibly removed? No, that would be unconstitutional and immoral and a slippery slope.

    Banning Muslims from entering our country? Yes, there is historical precedence for prohibiting groups from emigrating here.

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