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Wednesday morning, President Trump jolted the nation with a tweet that contained both threat and taunt:

“Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

Trump was responding to a warning by Russia that she would shoot down U.S. missiles fired at her Syrian allies, and she reserved the right to fire on U.S. warships and bases from which any such missiles were launched.

The “Gas Killing Animal” was Syrian President Bashar Assad.

That afternoon, Defense Secretary James Mattis dialed it down. Had he seen enough evidence to convict Assad of a poison gas attack in Douma, Mattis was asked. His reply: “We are still assessing the intelligence. … We’re still working on this.”

Thursday morning, Trump seemed to walk back his threat: “Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all!”

Is Trump planning a larger attack and silently gathering allies? Is he signaling that a U.S. attack on Syria may not be coming?

Whichever, the relief at his apparent stand down was palpable.

Yet the interlude should cause some sober second thoughts.

Why risk war with Russia in Syria, when, by our own inaction during this seven-year civil war, we have shown we have no vital interest there? And, surely, we have no interest in Syria so crucial as to justify a war with a nuclear-armed Russia.
Trump allowed his revulsion at the awful pictures of dead children, allegedly gassed, to impel him to threaten military action almost certain to result in more dead children.

Emotions should not be allowed to overrule what the president has thought and expressed many times: While the outcome of Syria’s civil war may mean everything to Assad, and much to Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Israel, it means comparatively little to a USA 5,000 miles away.

We cannot forever fight other peoples’ wars without ending up on the same ash heap of history as the other world powers before us.

And why not talk directly to our adversaries there?

If Trump can talk to Kim Jong Un, who used an anti-aircraft gun to execute his uncle and had his half-brother murdered in a Malaysian airport with a chemical weapon, why cannot we talk to Bashar Assad?

In 1974, Richard Nixon flew to Damascus to establish ties to Assad’s father, the future “Butcher of Hama.” George H.W. Bush enlisted Hafez al-Assad and 4,000 Syrian troops in his Gulf War to liberate Kuwait.

What are America’s limited interests in Syria in 2018?

ORDER IT NOW

Containing al-Qaida, exterminating the ISIS caliphate, and effecting the best deal we can for the Kurds who have been loyal and crucial to our campaign against ISIS. Damascus, Moscow and Tehran are not fighting us on these fronts. For al-Qaida and ISIS are their enemies as well.

As for the political future of Syria, it is not vital to us and not ours to determine. And the efforts of others to have us come fight their wars, while understandable, need to be resisted.

All over this city, and across the Middle East, there are people who wish to conscript U.S. wealth and power to advance their goals and achieve their visions. Having let them succeed so often has diminished us as a superpower from what we were at the end of the Cold War.

This should stop, and the nation knows it.

Among the reasons Democrats nominated Barack Obama and America elected him was that his opponents, Hillary Clinton and John McCain, supported the Iraq War Obama opposed.

Among the reasons the Republican Party nominated Trump and the nation elected him was that he promised to take us out and keep us out of wars like this Syrian civil war.

Is it not ironic that today our War Party, which, almost to a man, loathed Trump and rejected his candidacy, is goading and cheering him on, deeper and deeper into the Syrian quagmire?

Trump is heading into a 60-day period that will go far to determine the fate of his presidency and the future of the Middle East.

If investigators determine that Assad’s forces used poison gas on civilians in Douma, Trump will have to decide whether to repeat the strike he made on Syria, a year ago, and, this time, risk war with Russia.

He will have to decide by May 12 whether the U.S. walks away from the Iran nuclear deal. On May 15 comes the formal move of the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, the 70th anniversary of the birth of Israel and of the Nakba, or “catastrophe,” of the Palestinians, and the culmination of the Friday protests in Gaza that have turned so bloody.

We and Mr. Trump are heading into interesting times.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    As usual, Mr. Buchanan propagandizes with pronouns.

    “Why risk war with Russia in Syria, when, by our own inaction during this seven-year civil war, we have shown we have no vital interest there?” He’s whitewashing about “inaction,” too.

    “And the efforts of others to have us come fight their wars, while understandable, need to be resisted.” He’s also here legitimizing as “understandable” the notion of allies who, in fact, are either vassals or johns for the whores in Washington.

    “.. has diminished us as a superpower from what we were at the end of the Cold War.” As if that’s the ideal.

    After so many years in Washington, even “Mr. Paleoconservative” can’t conceive of a distinction between the American people and their rulers. His uses of “we,” “us,” and “our” keep people marinated in the sense that, because they live in Oklahoma, they must root for Uncle Sam.

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    Excellent point, Anon-340. Just who is "we"? I think Mr. Buchanan means all the people inside "the city" for which he dares not speak it's name.

    I will, it's Washington, FS.


    Federal Shithole, for those, like Pat Buchanan, not quite living in the Current Era.

    , @Anonymous
    Excellent points. This part was particularly irritating:

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    - "our"
    - "inaction"
    - "civil war"
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  2. KenH says:

    Trump is heading into a 60-day period that will go far to determine the fate of his presidency and the future of the Middle East.

    Indeed. If they media touted “blue wave” actually comes true the Democrats could regain most or all of the seats they lost under Hussein Obama and Trump’s broken promises and the channeling of his inner Dubya on foreign policy will be partly responsible for that.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    The cruise missile strike of 2017 sent all the wrong messages as the anti-Trump (((media))) swooned, Israel cheered, his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we’re told) and even little (((Willy Kristol))) batted his eyelashes at the Donald. So the positive reinforcement he received from his past reckless behavior towards Syria doesn’t bode well.

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    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.
     
    Both. While I accept there was no choice but to deny megalomaniac Hillary Clinton the power of the Presidency, Trump has moved from runner-up to first place in all categories. As horrible may be the thought of an evangelical jesus-freak, such as Pence, in the Oval Office, Trump has managed through gross incompetence to make Pence preferable.

    And may God have mercy on us all.
    , @Anonymous

    his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we’re told)
     
    That was almost certainly manipulated. His base, and many neutrals, really didn't like the "beautiful babies" speech and the subsequent missile strike. It happened so fast that he couldn't even pretend that some kind of investigation happened. The Deep State loved it. He was bombing for Israel, reneging on a core campaign promise and appearing foolish at the same time. What's not to love.
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  3. @anonymous
    As usual, Mr. Buchanan propagandizes with pronouns.

    "Why risk war with Russia in Syria, when, by our own inaction during this seven-year civil war, we have shown we have no vital interest there?" He's whitewashing about "inaction," too.

    "And the efforts of others to have us come fight their wars, while understandable, need to be resisted." He's also here legitimizing as "understandable" the notion of allies who, in fact, are either vassals or johns for the whores in Washington.

    ".. has diminished us as a superpower from what we were at the end of the Cold War." As if that's the ideal.

    After so many years in Washington, even “Mr. Paleoconservative” can’t conceive of a distinction between the American people and their rulers. His uses of “we,” “us,” and “our” keep people marinated in the sense that, because they live in Oklahoma, they must root for Uncle Sam.

    Excellent point, Anon-340. Just who is “we”? I think Mr. Buchanan means all the people inside “the city” for which he dares not speak it’s name.

    I will, it’s Washington, FS.

    Federal Shithole, for those, like Pat Buchanan, not quite living in the Current Era.

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  4. There’s only one instance of “All over this city…” in this particular column, but, as I wrote under another one a few weeks back, Mr. Buchanan is under the distinct impression that only people within the Federal Shithole itself are reading his columns. Does he not have anything to say to the subjects out in flyover country? Is it just a bad habit?

    Maybe that’s all the people Mr. Buchanan reckons are reading, but I think people that he may want to influence only want to read stuff by people that PAY THEM … A LOT. Mr. Unz has a great website, but you don’t get paid for reading this stuff, like a congresswhore will for reading a memo from a big donor. Why should those “city” people listen to you, Pat Buchanan?

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  5. Containing al-Qaida, exterminating the ISIS caliphate, and effecting the best deal we can for the Kurds who have been loyal and crucial to our campaign against ISIS. Damascus, Moscow and Tehran are not fighting us on these fronts. For al-Qaida and ISIS are their enemies as well.

    NO! You are not yourself today, Pat. How about a firm GTFO? You are getting too caught up in all of these entanglements and shenanigans because you spend all your time in “the city”.

    Step back a good bit, Mr. Buchanan, and look at the big picture:

    1) None of this is the business of The United States of America

    2) Even if it were, We are beyond broke at this point! This is a really, really bad time to re-up for more world’s policeman duties, especially because, as the world’s policeman, the US Military/Deep State has acted more like Christopher Dorner than Steve McGarret.

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    1) None of this is the business of The United States of America
     
    Exactly.
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  6. Buchanan writes; “If investigators determine that Assad’s forces used poison gas on civilians in Douma, Trump will have to decide whether to repeat the strike he made on Syria, a year ago, and, this time, risk war with Russia.”

    Here’s my question. Why is it wrong to use “poison gas” to kill people? Or is it wrong only when “civilians” are killed? Otherwise, it would be OK? Why protest the use of “poison gas” but not, for instance, the kind of “daisy cutters” that the US dropped on bomb shelters (with civilians, mothers, babies, children, etc. inside) in Baghdad when the US went after Saddam’s non-existent WMDs. Explain to me, if you can, why it is more moral (if that’s what it is) to kill people with bombs than with poisons.

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  7. Randal says:

    Trump allowed his revulsion at the awful pictures of dead children, allegedly gassed, to impel him to threaten military action almost certain to result in more dead children.

    If Buchanan really believes this (and frankly it cannot entirely be ruled out with Trump), then he should be calling for Trump to be replaced ASAP, as simply not competent for any leadership position. Some degree of basic emotional continence and maturity ought to be a requirement for running a dog pound, let alone a nuclear armed superpower.

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    Pat gets all of his information from TV, probably mostly CNN, at that. Notice that he includes at least one TV myth in every column, this time it's the one about how the US was "fighting ISIS".

    Pat doesn't know, apparently, that ISIS is a creature of the US/Israeli intelligence gang, and that US military transports were used to rescue ISIS fighters from every place they were in danger of being captured.
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  8. anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    America thought it could get things done with a few angry impulsive tweets . It didn’t simply work.
    Reality dawned on the loud mouthed boneheaded Bolton type crowd that the bluffs had been called.

    Now in a more democratic country that is responsive to public , the loud mouthed associates of the President and their enablers in the media would have been asked to look for the exit. Instead they are waiting for creating next opportunity of unprovoked aggression.

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  9. @KenH

    Trump is heading into a 60-day period that will go far to determine the fate of his presidency and the future of the Middle East.
     
    Indeed. If they media touted "blue wave" actually comes true the Democrats could regain most or all of the seats they lost under Hussein Obama and Trump's broken promises and the channeling of his inner Dubya on foreign policy will be partly responsible for that.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    The cruise missile strike of 2017 sent all the wrong messages as the anti-Trump (((media))) swooned, Israel cheered, his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we're told) and even little (((Willy Kristol))) batted his eyelashes at the Donald. So the positive reinforcement he received from his past reckless behavior towards Syria doesn't bode well.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    Both. While I accept there was no choice but to deny megalomaniac Hillary Clinton the power of the Presidency, Trump has moved from runner-up to first place in all categories. As horrible may be the thought of an evangelical jesus-freak, such as Pence, in the Oval Office, Trump has managed through gross incompetence to make Pence preferable.

    And may God have mercy on us all.

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  10. Quite weak sauce from Buchanan. Soma, basically.

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  11. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    As usual, Mr. Buchanan propagandizes with pronouns.

    "Why risk war with Russia in Syria, when, by our own inaction during this seven-year civil war, we have shown we have no vital interest there?" He's whitewashing about "inaction," too.

    "And the efforts of others to have us come fight their wars, while understandable, need to be resisted." He's also here legitimizing as "understandable" the notion of allies who, in fact, are either vassals or johns for the whores in Washington.

    ".. has diminished us as a superpower from what we were at the end of the Cold War." As if that's the ideal.

    After so many years in Washington, even “Mr. Paleoconservative” can’t conceive of a distinction between the American people and their rulers. His uses of “we,” “us,” and “our” keep people marinated in the sense that, because they live in Oklahoma, they must root for Uncle Sam.

    Excellent points. This part was particularly irritating:

    our own inaction during this seven-year civil war

    - “our”
    - “inaction”
    - “civil war”

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  12. Anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    Trump is heading into a 60-day period that will go far to determine the fate of his presidency and the future of the Middle East.
     
    Indeed. If they media touted "blue wave" actually comes true the Democrats could regain most or all of the seats they lost under Hussein Obama and Trump's broken promises and the channeling of his inner Dubya on foreign policy will be partly responsible for that.

    Either Trump is too easily swayed and manipulated by mountebanks like Bolton or he foolishly thinks that this gambit will take some heat off of the Mueller investigation and rally the nation behind him.

    The cruise missile strike of 2017 sent all the wrong messages as the anti-Trump (((media))) swooned, Israel cheered, his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we're told) and even little (((Willy Kristol))) batted his eyelashes at the Donald. So the positive reinforcement he received from his past reckless behavior towards Syria doesn't bode well.

    his approval rating jumped a few points (or so we’re told)

    That was almost certainly manipulated. His base, and many neutrals, really didn’t like the “beautiful babies” speech and the subsequent missile strike. It happened so fast that he couldn’t even pretend that some kind of investigation happened. The Deep State loved it. He was bombing for Israel, reneging on a core campaign promise and appearing foolish at the same time. What’s not to love.

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  13. How can Assad obtain ISRAELI made poison gas??? everytiem peace is near Mossad carries out fake gas attacks…Israel IDF kills 20 UNarmed civilians and no protest…WW III and th eonly winner will be Israel and the Rothschilds Petroleum MONOPOLY…

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  14. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    True to form, Buchanan dared not speak the name of the enemy whose name dare not be spoken.
    Sen. Wickers revealed more than Pat did.

    Iran is the target, not Russia.

    Iran is not enemy of USA; in reality, Iran is not an ‘enemy’ of Jews or of Israel. Iran cramps Israel’s expansionist ambitions.

    USA is trying to figure out how to hurt Iran/Syria without hurting Russia/Syria, because Russia/Syria can hurt back.

    oh — and subdividing Syria works in Israel’s interests as well as Turkey’s.

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  15. El Dato says:

    Why not let the Europeans intervene if they want to and watch from the sidelines?

    Macron and May (M&Ms) seem ready to take a goof look-see. Should they decide to test the waters and have a few less planes come back than went in, then get politically moved to the trashcan in a jiffy, it will at least give some real-world data points about political clownery over amazingly convenient “bad gas events”.

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  16. Brabantian says: • Website

    Russia has won and Trump has won

    The Syria false flag scam now more devastatingly exposed to the world … Theresa May to fall from power shortly as the leading UK involvement in staging the false flag is highlighted

    And Donald John Trump has outwitted his neo-con tormentors, making stupid blustering war-mongering tweets to please them, in order to buy time … enabling the Russians and Syrians to get the evidence to bring down the Western web of lies

    It seems more and more clear that Trump, despite his flaws and past links to kosher mafias etc … is nonetheless trying to courageously do some good whilst in the devil’s den … brave enough to risk his life and reputation in one of the most dangerous games a human being can play

    Maybe it is really true

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    evidently not.

    Trumpenthal just launched a massive missile strike at targets all over Syria.

    response so far from Putin/Russia:

    more hot air ("this is unacceptable!") etc. etc.

    pitiful. Just pitiful.

    looks like a major victory for the Judeo-globalists.

    and, thus encouraged, expect more of same

    soon.
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  17. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Comey’s book and Mueller’s raiding of lawyer’s house.

    We went from Watergate to Deepgate, deepstategate.

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  18. Polymath says:

    Don’t criticize Buchanan for treating Washington D.C. as his city. He was born and raised there.

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  19. @Randal

    Trump allowed his revulsion at the awful pictures of dead children, allegedly gassed, to impel him to threaten military action almost certain to result in more dead children.
     
    If Buchanan really believes this (and frankly it cannot entirely be ruled out with Trump), then he should be calling for Trump to be replaced ASAP, as simply not competent for any leadership position. Some degree of basic emotional continence and maturity ought to be a requirement for running a dog pound, let alone a nuclear armed superpower.

    Pat gets all of his information from TV, probably mostly CNN, at that. Notice that he includes at least one TV myth in every column, this time it’s the one about how the US was “fighting ISIS”.

    Pat doesn’t know, apparently, that ISIS is a creature of the US/Israeli intelligence gang, and that US military transports were used to rescue ISIS fighters from every place they were in danger of being captured.

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    probably mostly CNN
     
    If Satan himself works in this world, I would judge CNN to be one of his prime mind-numbing emitters.

    > That contentless chopped drivel.
    > Those mind-frying meangingless hypnotizing computer graphics.
    > That ADHD-inducing ticker tape.
    > Those stressfully thought-erasing fast-talking dollheads as if there was some kind of hurry to get another contextless soundbite out before the next adbreak.
    > That hidden agenda.
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  20. Mishra says:

    “US media love war more than they hate Trump & egg him on to strike Syria”

    That’s how RT put it today and I daresay they’re pretty accurate.

    Israel and its partisans won’t tolerate a stable Syria.

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  21. @Brabantian
    Russia has won and Trump has won

    The Syria false flag scam now more devastatingly exposed to the world ... Theresa May to fall from power shortly as the leading UK involvement in staging the false flag is highlighted

    And Donald John Trump has outwitted his neo-con tormentors, making stupid blustering war-mongering tweets to please them, in order to buy time ... enabling the Russians and Syrians to get the evidence to bring down the Western web of lies

    It seems more and more clear that Trump, despite his flaws and past links to kosher mafias etc ... is nonetheless trying to courageously do some good whilst in the devil's den ... brave enough to risk his life and reputation in one of the most dangerous games a human being can play

    Maybe it is really true
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9602ce7fe8dcce74a6ff46377eab83b532ccc4bf2a835420459f0f2f0d155c8.jpg

    evidently not.

    Trumpenthal just launched a massive missile strike at targets all over Syria.

    response so far from Putin/Russia:

    more hot air (“this is unacceptable!”) etc. etc.

    pitiful. Just pitiful.

    looks like a major victory for the Judeo-globalists.

    and, thus encouraged, expect more of same

    soon.

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  22. El Dato says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Pat gets all of his information from TV, probably mostly CNN, at that. Notice that he includes at least one TV myth in every column, this time it's the one about how the US was "fighting ISIS".

    Pat doesn't know, apparently, that ISIS is a creature of the US/Israeli intelligence gang, and that US military transports were used to rescue ISIS fighters from every place they were in danger of being captured.

    probably mostly CNN

    If Satan himself works in this world, I would judge CNN to be one of his prime mind-numbing emitters.

    > That contentless chopped drivel.
    > Those mind-frying meangingless hypnotizing computer graphics.
    > That ADHD-inducing ticker tape.
    > Those stressfully thought-erasing fast-talking dollheads as if there was some kind of hurry to get another contextless soundbite out before the next adbreak.
    > That hidden agenda.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    In the late '90s CNN was referred to as Clinton News Network, on FR. It restarted that Clinton devotion during her run (such as it was) for president. I've never been able to stand it.
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  23. Terrorizing humanity continues, USA was founded on lusting for blood, robbery and genocide.
    Today only minority of “amricans” are not addicted to blood lust.
    Wast majority can not live without it.

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  24. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    [Lord Acton]

    Whatever happened to checks and balances? It seems like Trump is writing the checks and his balance is overdrawn. It is time he was bounced from office. Men in white coats need to carry him off to be locked up in Trump Tower.

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    It is time he was bounced from office.
     
    Won't make any difference. The foreign policy of the United States is controlled and dictated by Israel/neocons/MSM. No matter who is the president, the war on Muslim countries will continue to appease Israel. The congress is controlled by AIPAC. The US is controlled by Adlemans and Sabans of this country.

    Unless the people of the United States rise up and take back control of their country this carnage will continue. They need to throw out everyone of the Washington politician to send the message to elected representatives; either they serve the people of the United States or they don't serve at all.

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!
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  25. KenH says:

    So we launched a “surgical” airstrike on Syria’s chemical facilities last night and Putin did…….absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.

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    Yes, as long as there are no consequences to US meddling, the US will continue to do so as Trump gets a temporary bump in the polls. I was on Breitbart and the number of morons supporting this is astounding (well not really).
    , @El Dato
    Idiot.

    Only fools rush into problems. And knaves tell others to do so.
    , @peterAUS

    So we launched a “surgical” airstrike on Syria’s chemical facilities last night and Putin did…….absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.
     
    Yup.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.
     
    In theory, yes.
    Haven't looked into it, but maybe those planes were outside of the effective range of those systems.
    Doesn't matter here. Irrelevant details. The paragraph above is what this is all about. Keywords "whine" and, really the only important, "respect". "nor takes seriously" is simply result of the later.
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  26. MEexpert says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    [Lord Acton]

    Whatever happened to checks and balances? It seems like Trump is writing the checks and his balance is overdrawn. It is time he was bounced from office. Men in white coats need to carry him off to be locked up in Trump Tower.

    It is time he was bounced from office.

    Won’t make any difference. The foreign policy of the United States is controlled and dictated by Israel/neocons/MSM. No matter who is the president, the war on Muslim countries will continue to appease Israel. The congress is controlled by AIPAC. The US is controlled by Adlemans and Sabans of this country.

    Unless the people of the United States rise up and take back control of their country this carnage will continue. They need to throw out everyone of the Washington politician to send the message to elected representatives; either they serve the people of the United States or they don’t serve at all.

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!

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    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!
     
    Ain't that the truth?

    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people, and yet they would not think to question that the White House is defending us all by bombing foreigners.

    With all the talk of "crisis actors" and "false flag" operations, there is really no knowing what the truth of the matter is, as We the People are whipsawed with snippets of information and fake news from unreliable sources.

    The tragedy is that we have a President who rails against fake news, and yet he seems to be the most avid consumer of it in the whole government.

    And still the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss is why the immigrant newspaper baron Rupert Murdoch is being allowed to dictate the national agenda and place his henchmen as advisors to our poor, goofy President.

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  27. MarkinLA says:
    @KenH
    So we launched a "surgical" airstrike on Syria's chemical facilities last night and Putin did.......absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.

    Yes, as long as there are no consequences to US meddling, the US will continue to do so as Trump gets a temporary bump in the polls. I was on Breitbart and the number of morons supporting this is astounding (well not really).

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  28. @MEexpert

    It is time he was bounced from office.
     
    Won't make any difference. The foreign policy of the United States is controlled and dictated by Israel/neocons/MSM. No matter who is the president, the war on Muslim countries will continue to appease Israel. The congress is controlled by AIPAC. The US is controlled by Adlemans and Sabans of this country.

    Unless the people of the United States rise up and take back control of their country this carnage will continue. They need to throw out everyone of the Washington politician to send the message to elected representatives; either they serve the people of the United States or they don't serve at all.

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!

    Ain’t that the truth?

    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people, and yet they would not think to question that the White House is defending us all by bombing foreigners.

    With all the talk of “crisis actors” and “false flag” operations, there is really no knowing what the truth of the matter is, as We the People are whipsawed with snippets of information and fake news from unreliable sources.

    The tragedy is that we have a President who rails against fake news, and yet he seems to be the most avid consumer of it in the whole government.

    And still the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss is why the immigrant newspaper baron Rupert Murdoch is being allowed to dictate the national agenda and place his henchmen as advisors to our poor, goofy President.

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    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people
     
    Can confirm.
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  29. Renoman says:

    Yes he’s backing down thank God, he’s just trying to put on a little show to stave off the Jews and bump his ratings. The sad part is most people swallow this shit hook line and sinker, buncha morons.

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  30. virgile says:

    The only reason the USA is in Syria is at the request of the supporters of Israel watching with anxiety their adopted unruly child been forced to make huge concessions or cease to exist.
    The trouble is that Trump is giving them useless crumbs, he is no doing much to prevent the opponents to Israel’s regional hegemony from becoming more powerful and more resistant.
    Now Iran is fully on board in the region, empowering Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Israel is gradually squeezed on all sides and threatened to be forced to relinquish the grip they have on illegally acquired lands. Netanyahu is not sleeping at night. Despite all Israel’s agents in the USA government, Trump is still the master and he does not seem to play Netanyahu’s tune.
    Trump has been working to weaken Israel by using the “advices” of his agents to move in actions that ultimately play against Israel. Some zionists are realizing that but the they cant do much except blackmailing him… It seems that Trump is smart enough to find his way under the threats.
    As the USA is gradually loosing control of the Arabs neighbours of Israel, Israel is increasingly fidgety.

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    Your failing is a common one: you have allowed your wishful thinking regarding Israel to replace the actual reality. If you actually think Israel is feeling threatened, or that Bibi has trouble sleeping at night because his country is losing against the Arab countries that surround Israel, you truly have your head wedged deeply–and possibly irrevocably–up your sphincter hole. To the contrary, things have never been better for Israel: Iraq? Toast. Afghanistan? Shithole wasteland. Yemen? Total shithole and getting worse. Libya? 'We came, we saw, he died LOL!!' pretty much sums it up. And Syria is now being reduced to rubble at Israel's behest–courtesy of Israel's obedient lapdog–the US government and US military, of course! Oh, and btw–you know about those 12 American military bases in Syria? They don't take orders from the US military; they take their marching orders from Avigdor Lieberman, Defense Minister of Israel. Doh!
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  31. El Dato says:
    @KenH
    So we launched a "surgical" airstrike on Syria's chemical facilities last night and Putin did.......absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.

    Idiot.

    Only fools rush into problems. And knaves tell others to do so.

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    Well, El Dunce-O, the problems are rushing into Putin and the Russians. Putin's restraint and magnanimity has been rewarded with further U.S. aggression, disrespect and false allegations about election hacking and chemical weapons use.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Your comment and reasoning is sound. Nobody here has a crystal ball that works better than anyone else's but certainly, Putin is no fool and he knows that a wise leader conserves his military strength.
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  32. KenH says:
    @El Dato
    Idiot.

    Only fools rush into problems. And knaves tell others to do so.

    Well, El Dunce-O, the problems are rushing into Putin and the Russians. Putin’s restraint and magnanimity has been rewarded with further U.S. aggression, disrespect and false allegations about election hacking and chemical weapons use.

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    I don't necessarily agree with how Vladimir Putin is handling things (in fact I believe he's made some mistakes that have allowed things get as bad as they are now) but I think I understand where he's coming from. The issue facing Putin is this, IMO:

    How do you stop a coterie of ignorant, arrogant, mentally and morally defective fools, i.e. team Orange Clown, from bringing about planetary extinction, while at the same time trying to defend Russia's legitimate interests?

    Putin knows that any direct military conflict with the U.S. can potentially escalate to nuclear war, so he's desperately trying to avoid it, and he's raised the bar accordingly. (The bar is still there, but higher than it would otherwise be).

    I was hoping that team Orange Clown's latest war crime would result in the loss of a few military assets, and that the U.S. military would finally realize the contempt that the traitorous scum have for them, and that they would turn on their masters accordingly, but no; not yet at least.

    If I was Vladimir Putin, I would try to forestall direct military conflict with team Orange Clown at least until the S-500 systems can be deployed. And I would be hoping in the meantime that economic problems/internal strife in the corrupt West become so burdensome that the ruling class will be forced to turn from the single-minded pursuit of world domination and control, and have to deal with mounting domestic problems.

    What worries me is that the Satanists at the top of the corrupt West must realize by now that they're going down, they're desperate, and they don't necessarily care about planetary extinction. (I believe they would prefer that outcome over a humiliating defeat at the hands of Russia and/or China).

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  33. deschutes says:
    @virgile
    The only reason the USA is in Syria is at the request of the supporters of Israel watching with anxiety their adopted unruly child been forced to make huge concessions or cease to exist.
    The trouble is that Trump is giving them useless crumbs, he is no doing much to prevent the opponents to Israel's regional hegemony from becoming more powerful and more resistant.
    Now Iran is fully on board in the region, empowering Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Israel is gradually squeezed on all sides and threatened to be forced to relinquish the grip they have on illegally acquired lands. Netanyahu is not sleeping at night. Despite all Israel's agents in the USA government, Trump is still the master and he does not seem to play Netanyahu's tune.
    Trump has been working to weaken Israel by using the "advices" of his agents to move in actions that ultimately play against Israel. Some zionists are realizing that but the they cant do much except blackmailing him... It seems that Trump is smart enough to find his way under the threats.
    As the USA is gradually loosing control of the Arabs neighbours of Israel, Israel is increasingly fidgety.

    Your failing is a common one: you have allowed your wishful thinking regarding Israel to replace the actual reality. If you actually think Israel is feeling threatened, or that Bibi has trouble sleeping at night because his country is losing against the Arab countries that surround Israel, you truly have your head wedged deeply–and possibly irrevocably–up your sphincter hole. To the contrary, things have never been better for Israel: Iraq? Toast. Afghanistan? Shithole wasteland. Yemen? Total shithole and getting worse. Libya? ‘We came, we saw, he died LOL!!’ pretty much sums it up. And Syria is now being reduced to rubble at Israel’s behest–courtesy of Israel’s obedient lapdog–the US government and US military, of course! Oh, and btw–you know about those 12 American military bases in Syria? They don’t take orders from the US military; they take their marching orders from Avigdor Lieberman, Defense Minister of Israel. Doh!

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  34. gsjackson says:

    Why can the man who once referred to Congress as “Israeli-occupied territory” no longer speak candidly? “Our” interests in Syria? There is no distance at all between U.S. and Israel foreign policy — none — and Israel has a strong interest in throwing Syria into chaos.

    As for the propaganda pronouns, I think Pat retains an interest in the frequently open White House Communications Director job.

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  35. @Jonathan Mason

    Any time a US president is in trouble domestically, he sends out few missiles to diffuse the crisis at home. Criminals like McCain and Graham are calling Assad war criminal. What a joke!
     
    Ain't that the truth?

    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people, and yet they would not think to question that the White House is defending us all by bombing foreigners.

    With all the talk of "crisis actors" and "false flag" operations, there is really no knowing what the truth of the matter is, as We the People are whipsawed with snippets of information and fake news from unreliable sources.

    The tragedy is that we have a President who rails against fake news, and yet he seems to be the most avid consumer of it in the whole government.

    And still the elephant in the room that no one wants to discuss is why the immigrant newspaper baron Rupert Murdoch is being allowed to dictate the national agenda and place his henchmen as advisors to our poor, goofy President.

    The most disturbing thing is how completely uninformed the average American is about, well, really anything other than their immediate job and family. I know, because I work with intelligent and well-paid people

    Can confirm.

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  36. peterAUS says:
    @KenH
    So we launched a "surgical" airstrike on Syria's chemical facilities last night and Putin did.......absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.

    So we launched a “surgical” airstrike on Syria’s chemical facilities last night and Putin did…….absolutely nothing except whine about violations of international law as he always does. Putin must understand that the U.S. neither respects him nor takes him seriously and at this point neither do I.

    Yup.

    He should have ordered his advanced SAM batteries to shoot down the allied jets which would have been within international law since Russia is legally in Syria and defending themselves from an attack that was not sanctioned by the U.N.

    In theory, yes.
    Haven’t looked into it, but maybe those planes were outside of the effective range of those systems.
    Doesn’t matter here. Irrelevant details. The paragraph above is what this is all about. Keywords “whine” and, really the only important, “respect“. “nor takes seriously” is simply result of the later.

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  37. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe deep down the neocon/Israeli plan is to keep the war going to maximize destruction of a hostile neighboring state. In other words, the Trump cabinet’s equivocation could be just for show. The fish that really needs to be gutted is Iran.

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  38. Che Guava says:

    ‘Gas Killing Animal’: How does an animal kill a gas?

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  39. @El Dato
    Idiot.

    Only fools rush into problems. And knaves tell others to do so.

    Your comment and reasoning is sound. Nobody here has a crystal ball that works better than anyone else’s but certainly, Putin is no fool and he knows that a wise leader conserves his military strength.

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  40. @El Dato

    probably mostly CNN
     
    If Satan himself works in this world, I would judge CNN to be one of his prime mind-numbing emitters.

    > That contentless chopped drivel.
    > Those mind-frying meangingless hypnotizing computer graphics.
    > That ADHD-inducing ticker tape.
    > Those stressfully thought-erasing fast-talking dollheads as if there was some kind of hurry to get another contextless soundbite out before the next adbreak.
    > That hidden agenda.

    In the late ’90s CNN was referred to as Clinton News Network, on FR. It restarted that Clinton devotion during her run (such as it was) for president. I’ve never been able to stand it.

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  41. Opie says:

    The lofty civic tone of these Buchanan pieces elevates them to high comedy, like the Reverend Tendril in A Handful of Dust. Parts of it stick in everybody’s craw. The mulish refusal to distinguish between this criminal regime and the subject population. The ridiculous notion that Trump is something more than a CIA puppet ruler – Trump, for chrissakes, besieged by CIA moles at Justice for vague Russian somethingorother, blackmailed by hookers giving the play-by-play of his bonking deficiencies. Any fry cook at McDonalds has more say at work than that poor bastard.

    Here’s what ol’ Pat means to say in his Ted Baxter editorial voice. Somebody’s got to dismantle this criminal kleptocracy. Americans can’t do it. So the SCO is going to do it. They’ve got the throw-weight, the aerospace dominance, and the authority in UN Charter Articles 2(4) and 51. When they’re through with the CIA regime we can all get fulfilling jobs as hangmen. Dibs on that cockroach Bybee!

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    "The ridiculous notion that Trump is something more than a CIA puppet ruler"

    The video of Trump making his little statement after his little popcorn poot missile strike was kind of pitiful. He didn't speak as he usually has in the past. He was subdued and looked like he had seen a ghost. I think that Tom Luongo is onto something with his article about how Trump has been taken down.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/luongo-coup-complete-trump-done
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  42. @Opie
    The lofty civic tone of these Buchanan pieces elevates them to high comedy, like the Reverend Tendril in A Handful of Dust. Parts of it stick in everybody's craw. The mulish refusal to distinguish between this criminal regime and the subject population. The ridiculous notion that Trump is something more than a CIA puppet ruler - Trump, for chrissakes, besieged by CIA moles at Justice for vague Russian somethingorother, blackmailed by hookers giving the play-by-play of his bonking deficiencies. Any fry cook at McDonalds has more say at work than that poor bastard.

    Here's what ol' Pat means to say in his Ted Baxter editorial voice. Somebody's got to dismantle this criminal kleptocracy. Americans can't do it. So the SCO is going to do it. They've got the throw-weight, the aerospace dominance, and the authority in UN Charter Articles 2(4) and 51. When they're through with the CIA regime we can all get fulfilling jobs as hangmen. Dibs on that cockroach Bybee!

    “The ridiculous notion that Trump is something more than a CIA puppet ruler”

    The video of Trump making his little statement after his little popcorn poot missile strike was kind of pitiful. He didn’t speak as he usually has in the past. He was subdued and looked like he had seen a ghost. I think that Tom Luongo is onto something with his article about how Trump has been taken down.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/luongo-coup-complete-trump-done

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    I have an idea what happened with Orange Clown’s strike on Syria.

    At first, Orange Clown was all gung ho about laying waste to Syria. He was going to trash the place. Then somebody told him something like: Hey Orange Clown, did you know that Russia has cruise missiles that the U.S. Navy cannot defend against? Did you know that Russia therefore has the ability to sink all your ships (and shoot down your aircraft)?

    And that was the point where the evil clown started backing down.

    And then Vladimir Putin, apparently feeling sorry for the evil clown, offered the petulant man-child a face-saving way out. A very limited strike in return for no military response.

    Thus Orange Clown gets to look like a heroic war criminal, Syria only has to endure a moderate amount of damage, and Orange Clown’s military toys survive to wreak havoc another day.
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  43. @Twodees Partain
    "The ridiculous notion that Trump is something more than a CIA puppet ruler"

    The video of Trump making his little statement after his little popcorn poot missile strike was kind of pitiful. He didn't speak as he usually has in the past. He was subdued and looked like he had seen a ghost. I think that Tom Luongo is onto something with his article about how Trump has been taken down.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-11/luongo-coup-complete-trump-done

    I have an idea what happened with Orange Clown’s strike on Syria.

    At first, Orange Clown was all gung ho about laying waste to Syria. He was going to trash the place. Then somebody told him something like: Hey Orange Clown, did you know that Russia has cruise missiles that the U.S. Navy cannot defend against? Did you know that Russia therefore has the ability to sink all your ships (and shoot down your aircraft)?

    And that was the point where the evil clown started backing down.

    And then Vladimir Putin, apparently feeling sorry for the evil clown, offered the petulant man-child a face-saving way out. A very limited strike in return for no military response.

    Thus Orange Clown gets to look like a heroic war criminal, Syria only has to endure a moderate amount of damage, and Orange Clown’s military toys survive to wreak havoc another day.

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  44. @KenH
    Well, El Dunce-O, the problems are rushing into Putin and the Russians. Putin's restraint and magnanimity has been rewarded with further U.S. aggression, disrespect and false allegations about election hacking and chemical weapons use.

    I don’t necessarily agree with how Vladimir Putin is handling things (in fact I believe he’s made some mistakes that have allowed things get as bad as they are now) but I think I understand where he’s coming from. The issue facing Putin is this, IMO:

    How do you stop a coterie of ignorant, arrogant, mentally and morally defective fools, i.e. team Orange Clown, from bringing about planetary extinction, while at the same time trying to defend Russia’s legitimate interests?

    Putin knows that any direct military conflict with the U.S. can potentially escalate to nuclear war, so he’s desperately trying to avoid it, and he’s raised the bar accordingly. (The bar is still there, but higher than it would otherwise be).

    I was hoping that team Orange Clown’s latest war crime would result in the loss of a few military assets, and that the U.S. military would finally realize the contempt that the traitorous scum have for them, and that they would turn on their masters accordingly, but no; not yet at least.

    If I was Vladimir Putin, I would try to forestall direct military conflict with team Orange Clown at least until the S-500 systems can be deployed. And I would be hoping in the meantime that economic problems/internal strife in the corrupt West become so burdensome that the ruling class will be forced to turn from the single-minded pursuit of world domination and control, and have to deal with mounting domestic problems.

    What worries me is that the Satanists at the top of the corrupt West must realize by now that they’re going down, they’re desperate, and they don’t necessarily care about planetary extinction. (I believe they would prefer that outcome over a humiliating defeat at the hands of Russia and/or China).

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  45. “Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

    Pre-adolescent ass clown.

    Heaven help us.

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  46. @Achmed E. Newman

    Containing al-Qaida, exterminating the ISIS caliphate, and effecting the best deal we can for the Kurds who have been loyal and crucial to our campaign against ISIS. Damascus, Moscow and Tehran are not fighting us on these fronts. For al-Qaida and ISIS are their enemies as well.
     
    NO! You are not yourself today, Pat. How about a firm GTFO? You are getting too caught up in all of these entanglements and shenanigans because you spend all your time in "the city".

    Step back a good bit, Mr. Buchanan, and look at the big picture:

    1) None of this is the business of The United States of America

    2) Even if it were, We are beyond broke at this point! This is a really, really bad time to re-up for more world's policeman duties, especially because, as the world's policeman, the US Military/Deep State has acted more like Christopher Dorner than Steve McGarret.

    1) None of this is the business of The United States of America

    Exactly.

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  47. Dissident says:

    @ #2, Achmed E. Newman:

    “Washington, FS” (“Federal S–thole”)

    I like John Derbyshire’s euphemism: “outhouse”.

    @ #9, Steve Gittelson:

    “And may God have mercy on us all.”

    Amen.

    (From an anti-Zionist, anti-Cultural-Marxist, anti-war, anti-Globalist Jew.)

    @ #21, Haxo Angmark:

    “Judeo-globalists”

    If anything, that should be Zio-globalists.

    ZionismJudaism.

    One should at least be honest enough to acknowledge that much and that there are critical distinctions between the two entities– regardless of how one views either of them.

    @ #22, El Dato:

    “If Satan himself works in this world, I would judge CNN to be one of his prime mind-numbing emitters.”

    Can you name a Main Stream media entity that is not doing the work of Satan?

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