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By firing off five dozen Tomahawk missiles at a military airfield, our “America First” president may have plunged us into another Middle East war that his countrymen do not want to fight.

Thus far Bashar Assad seems unintimidated. Brushing off the strikes, he has defiantly gone back to bombing the rebels from the same Shayrat air base that the U.S. missiles hit.

Trump “will not stop here,” warned U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley on Sunday. “If he needs to do more, he will.”

If Trump fails to back up Haley’s threat, the hawks now cheering him on will begin deriding him as “Donald Obama.”

But if he throbs to the war drums of John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Marco Rubio and orders Syria’s air force destroyed, we could be at war not only with ISIS and al-Qaida, but with Syria, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.

A Syrian war would consume Trump’s presidency.

Are we ready for that? How would we win such a war without raising a large army and sending it back into the Middle East?

Another problem: Trump’s missile attack was unconstitutional. Assad had not attacked or threatened us, and Congress, which alone has the power to authorize war on Syria, has never done so.

Indeed, Congress denied President Obama that specific authority in 2013.

What was Trump thinking? Here was his strategic rational:

“When you kill innocent children, innocent babies — babies, little babies — with a chemical gas … that crosses many, many lines, beyond a red line. … And I will tell you, that attack on children yesterday had a big impact on me … my attitude toward Syria and Assad has changed very much.”

Two days later, Trump was still emoting: “Beautiful babies were cruelly murdered in this very barbaric attack. No child of God should ever suffer such horror.”

Now, that gas attack was an atrocity, a war crime, and pictures of its tiny victims are heart-rending. But 400,000 people have died in Syria’s civil war, among them thousands of children and infants.

Have they been killed by Assad’s forces? Surely, but also by U.S., Russian, Israeli and Turkish planes and drones — and by Kurds, Iranians, Hezbollah, al-Qaida, ISIS, U.S.-backed rebels and Shiite militia.

Assad is battling insurgents and jihadists who would slaughter his Alawite brethren and the Christians in Syria just as those Copts were massacred in Egypt on Palm Sunday. Why is Assad more responsible for all the deaths in Syria than those fighting to overthrow and kill him?

Are we certain Assad personally ordered a gas attack on civilians?

For it makes no sense. Why would Assad, who is winning the war and had been told America was no longer demanding his removal, order a nerve gas attack on children, certain to ignite America’s rage, for no military gain?

Like the gas attack in 2013, this has the marks of a false flag operation to stampede America into Syria’s civil war.

ORDER IT NOW

And as in most wars, the first shots fired receive the loudest cheers. But if the president has thrown in with the neocons and War Party, and we are plunging back into the Mideast maelstrom, Trump should know that many of those who helped to nominate and elect him — to keep us out of unnecessary wars — may not be standing by him.

We have no vital national interest in Syria’s civil war. It is those doing the fighting who have causes they deem worth dying for.

For ISIS, it is the dream of a caliphate. For al-Qaida, it is about driving the Crusaders out of the Dar al Islam. For the Turks, it is, as always, about the Kurds.

For Assad, this war is about his survival and that of his regime. For Putin, it is about Russia remaining a great power and not losing its last naval base in the Med. For Iran, this is about preserving a land bridge to its Shiite ally Hezbollah. For Hezbollah it is about not being cut off from the Shiite world and isolated in Lebanon.

Because all have vital interests in Syria, all have invested more blood in this conflict than have we. And they are not going to give up their gains or goals in Syria and yield to the Americans without a fight.

And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?

A New World Order? Democracy? Separation of mosque and state? Diversity? Free speech for Muslim heretics? LGBT rights?

In 2013, a great national coalition came together to compel Congress to deny Barack Obama authority to take us to war in Syria.

We are back at that barricade. An after-Easter battle is shaping up in Congress on the same issue: Is the president authorized to take us into war against Assad and his allies inside Syria?

If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, we do not want America in yet another Mideast war, the time to stop it is before the War Party has us already in it. That time is now.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

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  1. reiner Tor says: • Website

    As Greg Johnson wrote, it would be poetic justice if Trump this unconstitutional attack on Syria would be used in an impeachment procedure against him by the very crowd which has always wanted to push him into this war.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtgMf8OGwUM

    The Cabal and its promoters are just throwing off the disguise now that they've won electionNothing's changed. They have just suckered the stupid, once again. Fake Patriots beget FAke POTUSes
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  2. This is another excellent article by Mr. Buchanan. The policy of going to war in Syria based on what is probably a false accusation is not only criminal but fatally stupid. Trump will lose his intelligent support if he doesn’t do another 180 back to the foreign policies he espoused during his campaign.

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  3. Realist says:

    “Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?”

    Most absolutely.

    “If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, we do not want America in yet another Mideast war, the time to stop it is before the War Party has us already in it. That time is now.”

    The war party will not be denied.

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    If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them.

    French farmers and truck drivers have set some really good examples of just a few possible tactics. Cars constantly stalling and breaking down at strategic intersections can cause gridlocks that choke cities. None of this is to suggest breaking the law at all but it would give pause for thought. Comments?
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  4. KenH says:

    A Syrian war would consume Trump’s presidency.

    Indeed it would and Trump wouldn’t be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Meaning kiss the domestic agenda of deporting illegals, building a border wall and other initiatives popular with red state America goodbye since the war would consume Trump. He’d probably outsource domestic policy to princess Ivanka who seems to have never met a progressive social cause she didn’t like. Kiss MAGA goodbye.

    Why is Assad more responsible for all the deaths in Syria than those fighting to overthrow and kill him?

    For pure propaganda effect since Israel wants him gone and we all know which (((group))) controls the U.S. media.

    And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?
    A New World Order? Democracy? Separation of mosque and state? Diversity? Free speech for Muslim heretics? LGBT rights?

    LOL. The progs would think so, but in reality it’s just to get rid of a thorn in Israel’s side and in keeping with the “A Clean Break” strategy laid out in the mid 1990′s.

    As usual, the U.S. are total hypocrites as the Saudis are doing to the Shiite Houthis what we claim Assad is doing to the Sunni “rebels” and other insurgent groups in Syria. Yet we are aiding and abetting the Saudis in their murderous campaign while excoriating, marginalizing and threatening Assad.

    If Trump continues down this road then expect Pocahantes Warren, Julian Castro or Kamala Harris as our new president in 2020. And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.

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    If Trump continues down this road then expect Pocahantes Warren, Julian Castro or Kamala Harris as our new president in 2020. And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.
     
    I campaigned, gave lots of money, and voted for Trump. I'd take Warren, Castro, or Harris to replace Trump right now.
    , @BenKenobi

    And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.
     
    And then finally, the Good War can begin in earnest, here at home.
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  5. It’s kind of hypocritical for the President to be blaming Assad’s regime for killing “innocent babies — babies, little babies” when 20% of all pregnancies in his great nation are “terminated”. Didn’t Jesus say something about the mote in another person’s eye and the beam in one’s own? He claims to be a Christian, although he apparently spends little time on Bible study. He has probably never read that passage in the Good Book. Maybe he could broaden his horizons by dipping into the humanities as a philosopher-king should.

    If he wants to kill baby-killers, maybe he should bomb China. (I hope I’m not giving him any bright ideas; I doubt he reads Pat Buchanan, though. Golfing at Mar-a-Lago has a higher priority.)

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    You should take a look at the racial statistics of aborted babies. If you love welfare, criminals and more and more affirmative action beneficiaries, keep advocating against abortion.

    If you want to get rid of endless generational welfare and disability scams; and make the schools and cities safe again then you must be for abortion of future welfare slugs and criminals.

    Can't have it both ways.
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  6. Turns out Trump is just another lying murdering scum bag. Sad.

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  7. Randal says:

    Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?

    I wrote this under the Saker’s latest piece, but it seems to fit well as an answer to Buchanan’s rhetorical question, so I’ll repeat it here.

    Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:

    Tillerson Says U.S. Will Punish ‘Crimes Against the Innocents’ Anywhere

    Presumably we can expect more of what we’ve come to expect from the US: knee jerk aggressive military responses to emotionally manipulative propaganda photographs when someone the US doesn’t like is accused of a “crime”, and casual disregard whenever anyone of whom the US approves is accused of anything.

    Just to emphasise the usefulness of this policy for justifying intervention at will, the US regime’s mouthpiece Spicer let slip that barrel bombing (essentially what the US and UK did to Germany and Japan in WW2 with free fall bombs, only much less destructive) could also be used as a pretext to attack Syria, before the White House later comically tried to limit the damage by pretending, absurdly, that he had been talking about “barrels filled with chlorine”.

    White House warns of potential US ‘red line’ over Syria barrel bomb attacks

    Truly, the Trump regime is descending into depths of foreign policy farce only predicted by his worst enemies prior to his election, ironically precisely as a result of following those same enemies’ advice on foreign policy.

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    "Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:"

    The really sad part is this country is so full of dumb bastards that agree with him.
    , @Realist
    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.
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  8. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @KenH

    A Syrian war would consume Trump’s presidency.
     
    Indeed it would and Trump wouldn't be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Meaning kiss the domestic agenda of deporting illegals, building a border wall and other initiatives popular with red state America goodbye since the war would consume Trump. He'd probably outsource domestic policy to princess Ivanka who seems to have never met a progressive social cause she didn't like. Kiss MAGA goodbye.

    Why is Assad more responsible for all the deaths in Syria than those fighting to overthrow and kill him?
     
    For pure propaganda effect since Israel wants him gone and we all know which (((group))) controls the U.S. media.

    And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?
    A New World Order? Democracy? Separation of mosque and state? Diversity? Free speech for Muslim heretics? LGBT rights?
     
    LOL. The progs would think so, but in reality it's just to get rid of a thorn in Israel's side and in keeping with the "A Clean Break" strategy laid out in the mid 1990's.

    As usual, the U.S. are total hypocrites as the Saudis are doing to the Shiite Houthis what we claim Assad is doing to the Sunni "rebels" and other insurgent groups in Syria. Yet we are aiding and abetting the Saudis in their murderous campaign while excoriating, marginalizing and threatening Assad.

    If Trump continues down this road then expect Pocahantes Warren, Julian Castro or Kamala Harris as our new president in 2020. And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.

    If Trump continues down this road then expect Pocahantes Warren, Julian Castro or Kamala Harris as our new president in 2020. And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.

    I campaigned, gave lots of money, and voted for Trump. I’d take Warren, Castro, or Harris to replace Trump right now.

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  9. A headline screamed, ‘Syrian Missile Strike Was Reportedly Influenced by ‘Heartbroken’ Ivanka’… Is is this true? How did America the great got reduced to taking advice concerning life, death and just possibly the fate of the world from a non-elected voluptuous blonde whose claim to fame, without the Big Daddy’s help, is hawking beauty products to the gullible of America? God may not help us this time around!

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  10. Listening to Trump slobber about babies was sickening.

    We all know how much America’s elites “love” children.

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  11. Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.

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    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.
     
    It was probably a good trade. Russia Today admitted to 6 MiG-23's destroyed. Replacement cost is probably $20m per jet, minimum. Given the Russian propensity for putting the best face on things, I would double Russia Today's number. Whether it was a good idea to go after Assad is a different question.
    , @AnonimouseToo

    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.

     

    See. There's a bright side to everything if you just know where to look.
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  12. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Trump changed the conversation. It is bizarre that this is considered the first time Trump has acted ‘Presidential’. Seems to have have given the MSM a chance to get off the increasingly hysterical Russian Puppet story.

    The fact is that the only course of action in Syria is to leave it alone — which is beyond our grasp as a superpower — or to pour gasoline on the fire.

    There is no remotely plausible course of action to ‘win’ in Syria. We can pour gasoline on the fire without a plan and without official boots on the ground. It is as cynical and destructive as any US policy I can imagine.

    Trump has no concern with consistency so he can pivot however the wind blows on this. This was a one day tactical measure that could be pitched as a ‘victory’ and ‘winning’.

    The ‘beautiful babies’ thing was nauseating. But Trump can be trusted to quickly blame others and to refuse to take a bullet for any matter of principle. A true ‘populist’ does popular stuff.

    Losing wars isn’t popular.

    North Korea is much more likely. That’s what I worry about.

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  13. JohnDough says:

    Great article! However unless Americans see and actually talk about the Israeli, AIPAC, media, Wall St., Congress, Washington, and now Kushner and wife fifth column promoting wars in the Middle East, Africa, and in Syria nothing positive will happen. Lots of it is for the security of Israel, an insane megalomaniac paranoid all encompassing security that knows no bounds logical, moral, or otherwise. The attack on Syria is in the Passover tradition, how timely.

    It’s an insane cultural cult group with fascist thinking that only believes in end results by hook or crook by any means necessary. Our borders are even open for the paranoid security of US Jews. Same with the EU, how’s that working for ya’ll? They don’t count their murderous war crime casualties of occupied civilians, women, men, and children. Look at what the Israeli’s did to Gaza with Operation Cast Lead as merely one example.

    A false flag gas attack was pulled on Obama but the people spoke against attacking Syria. Since our fifth column are such diehards they never give up their plans and perpetrate the same lies over and over because they work. Israel calls the shots in that part of the world and have bribed or aided most of Congress to achieve it’s nationalistic and racist goals. This is Jewish supremacy at it’s worst. Israel does not give a toss about the US except to further it’s agendas. And Wall Street and the media march in goosestep with them.

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  14. Why is gas considered an unusually inhumane weapon? Traditional bombs kill babies and other non-combatants. Traditional bombs cause injuries that may take weeks to kill the victims. Traditional bombs result in lifelong debilities. Why makes gas so different?

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    I can only think of one thing, chemical weapons are very effective against civilians, while for a lot of reasons they are less effective against frontline soldiers. So their natural use is against centers of population. In WW1 they used them on the front because 1) they lacked means of delivery to enemy cities and 2) it was a stationary war. Still, chemical weapons were highly ineffective already in that war, in part because they weren't so good as the modern nerve agents, but mostly because they depended on the wind and occasionally killed more of their own soldiers than enemies. In mobile warfare it's even more difficult to use, since soldiers often are dispersed (no easy target), and they don't stay at any one place. They are also often inside vehicles. On the other hand, there now exist effective means to deliver them to population centers, where there's a high concentration of people.

    So while it might not be any more inhumane to be killed by a nerve agent than by a shrapnel, the former is basically exclusively a civilian killer weapon, whereas the latter is not.
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  15. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    From an April 2003 Haaretz article:

    The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible.

    This is a war of an elite. [Tom] Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/white-man-s-burden-1.14110

    All one has to do is to change Iraq with Libya, then Syria and this news story stays current. What Friedman finds funny about that war–Iraq–that makes him laugh is beyond me.
    Maybe if Mr. Friedman were to experience first-hand the sheer terror of fleeing from artillery shells falling down around him or smart bombs raining down from the sky, with no safe place left to run, and roving, armed psychopathic gangs, who shoot anything that moves, maybe if Tommie were to ‘enjoy’ that not as a well-paid spectator but as an unwilling participant, maybe then he wouldn’t think it so funny?

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  16. Rurik says:

    We have no vital national interest in Syria’s civil war. …

    For ISIS, it is the dream of a caliphate. For al-Qaida, it is about driving the Crusaders out of the Dar al Islam. For the Turks, it is, as always, about the Kurds.

    For Assad, this war is about his survival and that of his regime. For Putin, it is about Russia remaining a great power and not losing its last naval base in the Med. For Iran, this is about preserving a land bridge to its Shiite ally Hezbollah. For Hezbollah it is about not being cut off from the Shiite world and isolated in Lebanon.

    Because all have vital interests in Syria, all have invested more blood in this conflict than have we

    you forgot about one of the players Mr Buchanan. The main one.

    And they have invested zero blood, and why should they when they can always farm out their killing and dying to others?

    it’s the one for whom American morality (if there is such a thing anymore) and treasure is squandered and Americans lives will be lost

    it’s the one for whom all of this carnage and bloodshed; from Iraq to Libya to Syria and on to Iran and Russia and others are all being foisted upon a terrorized and bullied planet

    I wonder…

    now that Putin’s Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?

    Montenegro has just been brought into NATO as a direct confrontation to Putin and Russia.

    Just as Germany was confronted by watching what the Fiend had done to the Kulaks. Knowing it had its sights on Germany. Is Putin intelligent enough and honest enough to connect the dots?

    Is he statesman enough to ramp down the May day parades and seek rapprochement with the Baltic states and Poland and Ukraine and others?

    He could diffuse this looming apocalypse before it takes on a life of its own- simply by mollifying the fear and loathing of Russia today by the Eastern European states that see Russia as unrepentant for those terrible Red Army crimes and the decades of occupation / communist slavery.

    otherwise why would Montenegro want to belong to NATO? Why should Ukraine want to belong to NATO, unless it sees Russia as a threat? Putin could be the greatest statesman the world has ever known if he could only find a way to placate Eastern Europe. And it would cost him and Russia exactly nothing, except a smidgen of (chest-thumping, ultra-nationalistic) pride.

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    now that Putin’s Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?
     
    Excellent point. Unfortunately the answer your question is no.
    , @James of Galacia
    "If only Putin would make nice to the Baltic states and Poland ......"

    delicious humor .....I sleep better knowing that brave Montenegro is safely in Nato's warm embrace .......

    ...and thank God Russia's GDP is only slightly larger than Canada'.....imagine the evil it would do in the world if it ever grew to even Italy's size ....te mind boggles.

    Thank God for the patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom for all of us poor non-Americans to hold in our hearts.

    ...if only Putin would make nice......
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  17. @Realist
    "Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?"

    Most absolutely.

    "If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, we do not want America in yet another Mideast war, the time to stop it is before the War Party has us already in it. That time is now."

    The war party will not be denied.

    If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them.

    French farmers and truck drivers have set some really good examples of just a few possible tactics. Cars constantly stalling and breaking down at strategic intersections can cause gridlocks that choke cities. None of this is to suggest breaking the law at all but it would give pause for thought. Comments?

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    "If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them."

    Your heart is in the right place, but it would cost the American people dearly to stage a shut down of commerce.
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  18. Realist says:

    “And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?”

    Pat you know damn well we would be fighting for more money and power for the power elite. Their greed and corruption is insatiable.

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  19. Realist says:
    @Randal

    Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?

     

    I wrote this under the Saker's latest piece, but it seems to fit well as an answer to Buchanan's rhetorical question, so I'll repeat it here.

    Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:

    Tillerson Says U.S. Will Punish ‘Crimes Against the Innocents’ Anywhere

    Presumably we can expect more of what we’ve come to expect from the US: knee jerk aggressive military responses to emotionally manipulative propaganda photographs when someone the US doesn’t like is accused of a “crime”, and casual disregard whenever anyone of whom the US approves is accused of anything.

    Just to emphasise the usefulness of this policy for justifying intervention at will, the US regime’s mouthpiece Spicer let slip that barrel bombing (essentially what the US and UK did to Germany and Japan in WW2 with free fall bombs, only much less destructive) could also be used as a pretext to attack Syria, before the White House later comically tried to limit the damage by pretending, absurdly, that he had been talking about “barrels filled with chlorine”.

    White House warns of potential US 'red line' over Syria barrel bomb attacks

    Truly, the Trump regime is descending into depths of foreign policy farce only predicted by his worst enemies prior to his election, ironically precisely as a result of following those same enemies’ advice on foreign policy.

    “Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:”

    The really sad part is this country is so full of dumb bastards that agree with him.

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  20. Realist says:
    @Randal

    Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?

     

    I wrote this under the Saker's latest piece, but it seems to fit well as an answer to Buchanan's rhetorical question, so I'll repeat it here.

    Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:

    Tillerson Says U.S. Will Punish ‘Crimes Against the Innocents’ Anywhere

    Presumably we can expect more of what we’ve come to expect from the US: knee jerk aggressive military responses to emotionally manipulative propaganda photographs when someone the US doesn’t like is accused of a “crime”, and casual disregard whenever anyone of whom the US approves is accused of anything.

    Just to emphasise the usefulness of this policy for justifying intervention at will, the US regime’s mouthpiece Spicer let slip that barrel bombing (essentially what the US and UK did to Germany and Japan in WW2 with free fall bombs, only much less destructive) could also be used as a pretext to attack Syria, before the White House later comically tried to limit the damage by pretending, absurdly, that he had been talking about “barrels filled with chlorine”.

    White House warns of potential US 'red line' over Syria barrel bomb attacks

    Truly, the Trump regime is descending into depths of foreign policy farce only predicted by his worst enemies prior to his election, ironically precisely as a result of following those same enemies’ advice on foreign policy.

    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.

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    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.
     
    All of this feels very familiar to me from 2001-3, when Bush II did effectively the same thing in betraying a lot of people who had voted for him on the basis of his having suggested he would pursue a "humbler foreign policy", which appealed to those sick of the Clinton years, and conservative non-interventionists like me.

    The same warmongering enthusiasm from the mainstream establishment media, the same disputes between those declaring themselves disgusted by Bush's actions and those either insisting Bush was right to go to war in Afghanistan and then Iraq, or that we should be loyal to him anyway because of other domestic policies that needed to be pursued, or that he must know something we don't (the equivalent back then of the "he's playing 4d chess" nonsense today).

    It was different in some ways - the number of former Bush supporters turning away from him because of his actions was smaller, there was much less of an anti-establishment vibe on the political right, and the Bush loyalists had the "9/11 changed everything" argument to deploy. But overall many of the disagreements were very similar to those on these pages today. And of course the war propagandists dominated the mainstream media just as they do today, which is how they manufactured consent for those wars, particularly Iraq.

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  21. Realist says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them.

    French farmers and truck drivers have set some really good examples of just a few possible tactics. Cars constantly stalling and breaking down at strategic intersections can cause gridlocks that choke cities. None of this is to suggest breaking the law at all but it would give pause for thought. Comments?

    “If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them.”

    Your heart is in the right place, but it would cost the American people dearly to stage a shut down of commerce.

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    I think my head is too. The cost would be far, far greater should should the war party continue on the present trajectory. A bit like stooping to pick up dropped dimes while the $100 bills fall out of your pocket and are scattered to the winds.

    War can be the death of the nation. Sun Tzu.

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  22. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I never expected Trump to resist the temptation to wield the “big stick.” Came sooner than I expected, though, and with an excuse lamer than most.

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  23. Alden says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)
    It's kind of hypocritical for the President to be blaming Assad's regime for killing "innocent babies -- babies, little babies" when 20% of all pregnancies in his great nation are "terminated". Didn't Jesus say something about the mote in another person's eye and the beam in one's own? He claims to be a Christian, although he apparently spends little time on Bible study. He has probably never read that passage in the Good Book. Maybe he could broaden his horizons by dipping into the humanities as a philosopher-king should.

    If he wants to kill baby-killers, maybe he should bomb China. (I hope I'm not giving him any bright ideas; I doubt he reads Pat Buchanan, though. Golfing at Mar-a-Lago has a higher priority.)

    You should take a look at the racial statistics of aborted babies. If you love welfare, criminals and more and more affirmative action beneficiaries, keep advocating against abortion.

    If you want to get rid of endless generational welfare and disability scams; and make the schools and cities safe again then you must be for abortion of future welfare slugs and criminals.

    Can’t have it both ways.

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    If all the little white girls had babies of their own, they wouldn't be voting for old hags like Hillary. They be looking a leader to secure the blessings of liberty for themselves and their posterity. Take away The Pill.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Nowhere in my comment do I adopt the position which you impute to me. I am merely criticizing Trump's hypocrisy in using Assad's supposed killing of "little babies" when his nation kills millions. I did not say abortion per se is either "right" or "wrong".

    Get it?

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  24. Alden says:

    ““Here is an official statement of the new Trumpist world order: the US as self-appointed world policeman and global judge, jury and executioner:””

    Didn’t we take on that role in the 1890′s with the Spanish American war? Save the Cubans and Phillipinos from evil Spain.

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  25. Veritatis says:

    Is Putin the ‘Preeminent Statesman’ of Our Times?
    Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?

    Two articles that must have been difficult for Buchanan to write, yet he did. He has integrity and courage. He is crystal clear about the national interest. He is fighting the good fight, Americans are lucky to have him.

    How many of us, his readers, will answer his call:

    ” If, after Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Yemen, we do not want America in yet another Mideast war, the time to stop it is before the War Party has us already in it. That time is now.”

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  26. Randal says:
    @Realist
    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.

    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.

    All of this feels very familiar to me from 2001-3, when Bush II did effectively the same thing in betraying a lot of people who had voted for him on the basis of his having suggested he would pursue a “humbler foreign policy”, which appealed to those sick of the Clinton years, and conservative non-interventionists like me.

    The same warmongering enthusiasm from the mainstream establishment media, the same disputes between those declaring themselves disgusted by Bush’s actions and those either insisting Bush was right to go to war in Afghanistan and then Iraq, or that we should be loyal to him anyway because of other domestic policies that needed to be pursued, or that he must know something we don’t (the equivalent back then of the “he’s playing 4d chess” nonsense today).

    It was different in some ways – the number of former Bush supporters turning away from him because of his actions was smaller, there was much less of an anti-establishment vibe on the political right, and the Bush loyalists had the “9/11 changed everything” argument to deploy. But overall many of the disagreements were very similar to those on these pages today. And of course the war propagandists dominated the mainstream media just as they do today, which is how they manufactured consent for those wars, particularly Iraq.

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    Yes the majority of American people are consistently stupid
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  27. BenKenobi says:
    @KenH

    A Syrian war would consume Trump’s presidency.
     
    Indeed it would and Trump wouldn't be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Meaning kiss the domestic agenda of deporting illegals, building a border wall and other initiatives popular with red state America goodbye since the war would consume Trump. He'd probably outsource domestic policy to princess Ivanka who seems to have never met a progressive social cause she didn't like. Kiss MAGA goodbye.

    Why is Assad more responsible for all the deaths in Syria than those fighting to overthrow and kill him?
     
    For pure propaganda effect since Israel wants him gone and we all know which (((group))) controls the U.S. media.

    And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?
    A New World Order? Democracy? Separation of mosque and state? Diversity? Free speech for Muslim heretics? LGBT rights?
     
    LOL. The progs would think so, but in reality it's just to get rid of a thorn in Israel's side and in keeping with the "A Clean Break" strategy laid out in the mid 1990's.

    As usual, the U.S. are total hypocrites as the Saudis are doing to the Shiite Houthis what we claim Assad is doing to the Sunni "rebels" and other insurgent groups in Syria. Yet we are aiding and abetting the Saudis in their murderous campaign while excoriating, marginalizing and threatening Assad.

    If Trump continues down this road then expect Pocahantes Warren, Julian Castro or Kamala Harris as our new president in 2020. And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.

    And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.

    And then finally, the Good War can begin in earnest, here at home.

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    And then finally, the Good War can begin in earnest, here at home.
     
    Amen, brother.
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  28. @Realist
    "If the business of America is business then it is up to the American people to protest in creative ways that interrupt business to a near paralysing extent, only then will the war party feel the ground becoming ever less steady beneath them."

    Your heart is in the right place, but it would cost the American people dearly to stage a shut down of commerce.

    I think my head is too. The cost would be far, far greater should should the war party continue on the present trajectory. A bit like stooping to pick up dropped dimes while the $100 bills fall out of your pocket and are scattered to the winds.

    War can be the death of the nation. Sun Tzu.

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    Your plan is unworkable. Not enough people would participate and the power elite have all the money.
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  29. bjondo says:

    Everyone reviewing Trump as if they are reviewing a movie.
    This is life with the highest stakes.
    All should be participants not reviewers with thumbs up, thumbs down,
    I was right, you were wrong.
    Everyone should be at 1600 with as much energy as if at an NFL title game.
    More is at stake.

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  30. @The Alarmist
    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we're doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it's all good.

    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.

    It was probably a good trade. Russia Today admitted to 6 MiG-23′s destroyed. Replacement cost is probably $20m per jet, minimum. Given the Russian propensity for putting the best face on things, I would double Russia Today’s number. Whether it was a good idea to go after Assad is a different question.

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    The MiG-23 is no longer produced, but I think the Russians have a few in reserves, which could be upgraded for a fraction of that price. (If the Syrians' MiGs were upgraded versions.) Perhaps $5-6 million apiece.
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  31. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @Clark Westwood
    Why is gas considered an unusually inhumane weapon? Traditional bombs kill babies and other non-combatants. Traditional bombs cause injuries that may take weeks to kill the victims. Traditional bombs result in lifelong debilities. Why makes gas so different?

    I can only think of one thing, chemical weapons are very effective against civilians, while for a lot of reasons they are less effective against frontline soldiers. So their natural use is against centers of population. In WW1 they used them on the front because 1) they lacked means of delivery to enemy cities and 2) it was a stationary war. Still, chemical weapons were highly ineffective already in that war, in part because they weren’t so good as the modern nerve agents, but mostly because they depended on the wind and occasionally killed more of their own soldiers than enemies. In mobile warfare it’s even more difficult to use, since soldiers often are dispersed (no easy target), and they don’t stay at any one place. They are also often inside vehicles. On the other hand, there now exist effective means to deliver them to population centers, where there’s a high concentration of people.

    So while it might not be any more inhumane to be killed by a nerve agent than by a shrapnel, the former is basically exclusively a civilian killer weapon, whereas the latter is not.

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    Very interesting. Thanks for the thoughtful response.
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  32. Realist says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    I think my head is too. The cost would be far, far greater should should the war party continue on the present trajectory. A bit like stooping to pick up dropped dimes while the $100 bills fall out of your pocket and are scattered to the winds.

    War can be the death of the nation. Sun Tzu.

    Your plan is unworkable. Not enough people would participate and the power elite have all the money.

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  33. Realist says:
    @Randal

    Even the dickheads at Fox are overwhelmingly in favor of war, Tucker Carlson being a possible exception.
     
    All of this feels very familiar to me from 2001-3, when Bush II did effectively the same thing in betraying a lot of people who had voted for him on the basis of his having suggested he would pursue a "humbler foreign policy", which appealed to those sick of the Clinton years, and conservative non-interventionists like me.

    The same warmongering enthusiasm from the mainstream establishment media, the same disputes between those declaring themselves disgusted by Bush's actions and those either insisting Bush was right to go to war in Afghanistan and then Iraq, or that we should be loyal to him anyway because of other domestic policies that needed to be pursued, or that he must know something we don't (the equivalent back then of the "he's playing 4d chess" nonsense today).

    It was different in some ways - the number of former Bush supporters turning away from him because of his actions was smaller, there was much less of an anti-establishment vibe on the political right, and the Bush loyalists had the "9/11 changed everything" argument to deploy. But overall many of the disagreements were very similar to those on these pages today. And of course the war propagandists dominated the mainstream media just as they do today, which is how they manufactured consent for those wars, particularly Iraq.

    Yes the majority of American people are consistently stupid

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  34. David says:
    @Alden
    You should take a look at the racial statistics of aborted babies. If you love welfare, criminals and more and more affirmative action beneficiaries, keep advocating against abortion.

    If you want to get rid of endless generational welfare and disability scams; and make the schools and cities safe again then you must be for abortion of future welfare slugs and criminals.

    Can't have it both ways.

    If all the little white girls had babies of their own, they wouldn’t be voting for old hags like Hillary. They be looking a leader to secure the blessings of liberty for themselves and their posterity. Take away The Pill.

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    Take away The Pill.

     

    Of course!

    The cult of anti-life begins with The Pill...with it's readiness to extirpate organisms and contract human wants and desires in order to conform to the machine.
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  35. @Alden
    You should take a look at the racial statistics of aborted babies. If you love welfare, criminals and more and more affirmative action beneficiaries, keep advocating against abortion.

    If you want to get rid of endless generational welfare and disability scams; and make the schools and cities safe again then you must be for abortion of future welfare slugs and criminals.

    Can't have it both ways.

    Nowhere in my comment do I adopt the position which you impute to me. I am merely criticizing Trump’s hypocrisy in using Assad’s supposed killing of “little babies” when his nation kills millions. I did not say abortion per se is either “right” or “wrong”.

    Get it?

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  36. @reiner Tor
    I can only think of one thing, chemical weapons are very effective against civilians, while for a lot of reasons they are less effective against frontline soldiers. So their natural use is against centers of population. In WW1 they used them on the front because 1) they lacked means of delivery to enemy cities and 2) it was a stationary war. Still, chemical weapons were highly ineffective already in that war, in part because they weren't so good as the modern nerve agents, but mostly because they depended on the wind and occasionally killed more of their own soldiers than enemies. In mobile warfare it's even more difficult to use, since soldiers often are dispersed (no easy target), and they don't stay at any one place. They are also often inside vehicles. On the other hand, there now exist effective means to deliver them to population centers, where there's a high concentration of people.

    So while it might not be any more inhumane to be killed by a nerve agent than by a shrapnel, the former is basically exclusively a civilian killer weapon, whereas the latter is not.

    Very interesting. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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  37. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @Johann Ricke

    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.
     
    It was probably a good trade. Russia Today admitted to 6 MiG-23's destroyed. Replacement cost is probably $20m per jet, minimum. Given the Russian propensity for putting the best face on things, I would double Russia Today's number. Whether it was a good idea to go after Assad is a different question.

    The MiG-23 is no longer produced, but I think the Russians have a few in reserves, which could be upgraded for a fraction of that price. (If the Syrians’ MiGs were upgraded versions.) Perhaps $5-6 million apiece.

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    I assumed the MiGs were a writeoff, but Johannes has a point. Given that Trump appears to now be thoroughly co-opted by the Deep State and the MIC, and Russia didn't shoot back,do you suppose this might be a scam by the MIC on both sides to work down their inventory and generate new sales?
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  38. Agent76 says:

    Dec 18, 2015 Donald Trump Is The Establishment Candidate

    While his rise in the polls is attributed to his challenging the establishment and the political status quo, let’s look at the many ways Donald Trump, when it comes to his political positions, represents that very same status quo. From the Fed, to war, to civil liberties, the “anti-establishment”? Trump takes no positions not already endorsed by the establishment.

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    While I rarely take the time to watch vids, I must say that Ron Paul was amazing there, and was well worth listening to.

    Thanks!
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  39. @reiner Tor
    As Greg Johnson wrote, it would be poetic justice if Trump this unconstitutional attack on Syria would be used in an impeachment procedure against him by the very crowd which has always wanted to push him into this war.

    The Cabal and its promoters are just throwing off the disguise now that they’ve won electionNothing’s changed. They have just suckered the stupid, once again. Fake Patriots beget FAke POTUSes

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  40. Randal says:

    I think this latest confession from Trump makes a nice cap to the responses to Buchanan’s piece:

    Trump says Nato ‘no longer obsolete’

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    The Faux Revolution lasted less than 100 days.
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  41. Oldeguy says:
    @Randal
    I think this latest confession from Trump makes a nice cap to the responses to Buchanan's piece:

    Trump says Nato 'no longer obsolete'

    The Faux Revolution lasted less than 100 days.

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  42. @Agent76
    Dec 18, 2015 Donald Trump Is The Establishment Candidate

    While his rise in the polls is attributed to his challenging the establishment and the political status quo, let's look at the many ways Donald Trump, when it comes to his political positions, represents that very same status quo. From the Fed, to war, to civil liberties, the "anti-establishment"? Trump takes no positions not already endorsed by the establishment.

    https://youtu.be/vt2NPP1z-y8

    While I rarely take the time to watch vids, I must say that Ron Paul was amazing there, and was well worth listening to.

    Thanks!

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    Ron Paul makes a lot of sense but he's preaching to the choir, and a small choir at that. "America" isn't listening to him, he's singing in a pitch that is beyond the hearing range of most.

    The Democruds have been smart to enlist the young. Music, film and theatre are plugging away at them, night and day from every angle and the beauty of it is the message flies under the radar and reaches vast numbers. Fight fire with fire is what I'd suggest. I'm not trying to undermine Ron Paul's message at all, merely suggesting different messengers and media should be sought, aided and set to work. It wouldn't even take much money, just a little organisation and lots of creativity. American can-do spirit, that sort of thing. Cheers.

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  43. RoHa says:

    “And if we go to war in Syria, what would we be fighting for?”

    You’d be fighting for Israel, as usual.

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  44. utu says:
    @Rurik

    We have no vital national interest in Syria’s civil war. ...

    For ISIS, it is the dream of a caliphate. For al-Qaida, it is about driving the Crusaders out of the Dar al Islam. For the Turks, it is, as always, about the Kurds.

    For Assad, this war is about his survival and that of his regime. For Putin, it is about Russia remaining a great power and not losing its last naval base in the Med. For Iran, this is about preserving a land bridge to its Shiite ally Hezbollah. For Hezbollah it is about not being cut off from the Shiite world and isolated in Lebanon.

    Because all have vital interests in Syria, all have invested more blood in this conflict than have we
     

    you forgot about one of the players Mr Buchanan. The main one.

    And they have invested zero blood, and why should they when they can always farm out their killing and dying to others?

    it's the one for whom American morality (if there is such a thing anymore) and treasure is squandered and Americans lives will be lost

    it's the one for whom all of this carnage and bloodshed; from Iraq to Libya to Syria and on to Iran and Russia and others are all being foisted upon a terrorized and bullied planet

    I wonder...

    now that Putin's Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?

    Montenegro has just been brought into NATO as a direct confrontation to Putin and Russia.

    Just as Germany was confronted by watching what the Fiend had done to the Kulaks. Knowing it had its sights on Germany. Is Putin intelligent enough and honest enough to connect the dots?

    Is he statesman enough to ramp down the May day parades and seek rapprochement with the Baltic states and Poland and Ukraine and others?

    He could diffuse this looming apocalypse before it takes on a life of its own- simply by mollifying the fear and loathing of Russia today by the Eastern European states that see Russia as unrepentant for those terrible Red Army crimes and the decades of occupation / communist slavery.

    otherwise why would Montenegro want to belong to NATO? Why should Ukraine want to belong to NATO, unless it sees Russia as a threat? Putin could be the greatest statesman the world has ever known if he could only find a way to placate Eastern Europe. And it would cost him and Russia exactly nothing, except a smidgen of (chest-thumping, ultra-nationalistic) pride.

    now that Putin’s Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?

    Excellent point. Unfortunately the answer your question is no.

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    Unfortunately the answer your question is no.
     
    I suspect so, but that doesn't stop me from asking it

    Why in God's name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He's playing directly into John McCain's hand!

    Nuland knew exactly what she was doing by foisting a putsch in Ukraine, because there is a festering open wound there vis-a-vis the Holodomor and things like Operation Keelhaul, the gulags and the terrible rapes that occurred.

    Russians need to repudiate those terrible times and see the Russian people as a victim of Bolshevism just as all the rest of Eastern Europe was. Open their archives that prove the Holocaust was massively exaggerated. Point out that the 'gas chamber' at Auschwitz was built by the Soviets after the war was over.

    Germany and Russia are natural allies. The Tsarina was of German descent and British royalty. The Bolsheviks didn't just murder Tsar Nicolas, but his German wife and butchered his beautiful family.


    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/b5/cc/3cb5ccddf5356e8361de4531ef80947b.jpg

    slaughtered like animals, (by fiends)

    it is time for Russia to repudiate those Bolshevik fiends who genocided so many millions of Russians and others. It is time for a rapprochement between Russians and Germans and Poles and Brits and the entire West, as brothers and sisters with a common enemy: The Zio-Bolshevik/Rothschild banking cabal, no matter what shape they happen to be in, whether Stalin and his NKVD, or Jewish oligarchs who loot the Russian people blind. Putin has freed Russia from the later, now he needs to free Russia from the former.

    As long as Putin and the Russians continue to act like the Red Army 'liberated' anyone, they'll continue to be the eternal chumps of Rothschild. And invite more of Rothschild's war mongering and horrors and its rabid dog NATO.

    Just say no to Stalin and FDR and Churchill and Hitler as the scourge of the 20th century.

    Say no to the International Zio-Bankers for whom all of these men were the dupes of.

    and repudiate the Red Terror.

    and watch as the war pigs are emasculated by their lies and devil's tricks, that depend on tweaking the nationalistic sentiments of neighboring peoples who are natural allies, but who are being duped, big time by ethno-centric tricks and false narratives.

    Russians and Ukrainians are both victims of men like Stalin (yesterday) and kolomoisky (today).

    but they're all too parochial to see the obvious

    >>sigh<<

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  45. @jacques sheete
    While I rarely take the time to watch vids, I must say that Ron Paul was amazing there, and was well worth listening to.

    Thanks!

    Ron Paul makes a lot of sense but he’s preaching to the choir, and a small choir at that. “America” isn’t listening to him, he’s singing in a pitch that is beyond the hearing range of most.

    The Democruds have been smart to enlist the young. Music, film and theatre are plugging away at them, night and day from every angle and the beauty of it is the message flies under the radar and reaches vast numbers. Fight fire with fire is what I’d suggest. I’m not trying to undermine Ron Paul’s message at all, merely suggesting different messengers and media should be sought, aided and set to work. It wouldn’t even take much money, just a little organisation and lots of creativity. American can-do spirit, that sort of thing. Cheers.

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  46. @reiner Tor
    The MiG-23 is no longer produced, but I think the Russians have a few in reserves, which could be upgraded for a fraction of that price. (If the Syrians' MiGs were upgraded versions.) Perhaps $5-6 million apiece.

    I assumed the MiGs were a writeoff, but Johannes has a point. Given that Trump appears to now be thoroughly co-opted by the Deep State and the MIC, and Russia didn’t shoot back,do you suppose this might be a scam by the MIC on both sides to work down their inventory and generate new sales?

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  47. Is Trump Enlisting in the War Party?

    Naw, he just wants to play Churchillary.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/04/trump-everyone-swoons/

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  48. @The Alarmist
    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we're doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it's all good.

    Using $1m ($832k on volume discount) Tomahawk missiles to take out $35k aircraft shelters and weapons bunkers might seem counterproductive, even wasteful, but we’re doing it with borrowed Chinese money that will never be repaid and lining the pockets of Raytheon executives who are careful to ensure enough of the proceeds are recycled into political donations, so it’s all good.

    See. There’s a bright side to everything if you just know where to look.

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  49. @BenKenobi

    And white Americans will once again become hated tax paying slaves and a new era of black and brown racial chauvinism will be ushered in.
     
    And then finally, the Good War can begin in earnest, here at home.

    And then finally, the Good War can begin in earnest, here at home.

    Amen, brother.

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  50. Rurik says:
    @utu

    now that Putin’s Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?
     
    Excellent point. Unfortunately the answer your question is no.

    Unfortunately the answer your question is no.

    I suspect so, but that doesn’t stop me from asking it

    Why in God’s name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He’s playing directly into John McCain’s hand!

    Nuland knew exactly what she was doing by foisting a putsch in Ukraine, because there is a festering open wound there vis-a-vis the Holodomor and things like Operation Keelhaul, the gulags and the terrible rapes that occurred.

    Russians need to repudiate those terrible times and see the Russian people as a victim of Bolshevism just as all the rest of Eastern Europe was. Open their archives that prove the Holocaust was massively exaggerated. Point out that the ‘gas chamber’ at Auschwitz was built by the Soviets after the war was over.

    Germany and Russia are natural allies. The Tsarina was of German descent and British royalty. The Bolsheviks didn’t just murder Tsar Nicolas, but his German wife and butchered his beautiful family.


    slaughtered like animals, (by fiends)

    it is time for Russia to repudiate those Bolshevik fiends who genocided so many millions of Russians and others. It is time for a rapprochement between Russians and Germans and Poles and Brits and the entire West, as brothers and sisters with a common enemy: The Zio-Bolshevik/Rothschild banking cabal, no matter what shape they happen to be in, whether Stalin and his NKVD, or Jewish oligarchs who loot the Russian people blind. Putin has freed Russia from the later, now he needs to free Russia from the former.

    As long as Putin and the Russians continue to act like the Red Army ‘liberated’ anyone, they’ll continue to be the eternal chumps of Rothschild. And invite more of Rothschild’s war mongering and horrors and its rabid dog NATO.

    Just say no to Stalin and FDR and Churchill and Hitler as the scourge of the 20th century.

    Say no to the International Zio-Bankers for whom all of these men were the dupes of.

    and repudiate the Red Terror.

    and watch as the war pigs are emasculated by their lies and devil’s tricks, that depend on tweaking the nationalistic sentiments of neighboring peoples who are natural allies, but who are being duped, big time by ethno-centric tricks and false narratives.

    Russians and Ukrainians are both victims of men like Stalin (yesterday) and kolomoisky (today).

    but they’re all too parochial to see the obvious

    >>sigh<<

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    Why in God’s name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He’s playing directly into John McCain’s hand!
     
    Because it's more important than what balts,mcCain or buthurtbelt think. It's like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy. Your antisoviet rant is irrelevant
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  51. @David
    If all the little white girls had babies of their own, they wouldn't be voting for old hags like Hillary. They be looking a leader to secure the blessings of liberty for themselves and their posterity. Take away The Pill.

    Take away The Pill.

    Of course!

    The cult of anti-life begins with The Pill…with it’s readiness to extirpate organisms and contract human wants and desires in order to conform to the machine.

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  52. Zzz says:
    @Rurik

    Unfortunately the answer your question is no.
     
    I suspect so, but that doesn't stop me from asking it

    Why in God's name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He's playing directly into John McCain's hand!

    Nuland knew exactly what she was doing by foisting a putsch in Ukraine, because there is a festering open wound there vis-a-vis the Holodomor and things like Operation Keelhaul, the gulags and the terrible rapes that occurred.

    Russians need to repudiate those terrible times and see the Russian people as a victim of Bolshevism just as all the rest of Eastern Europe was. Open their archives that prove the Holocaust was massively exaggerated. Point out that the 'gas chamber' at Auschwitz was built by the Soviets after the war was over.

    Germany and Russia are natural allies. The Tsarina was of German descent and British royalty. The Bolsheviks didn't just murder Tsar Nicolas, but his German wife and butchered his beautiful family.


    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3c/b5/cc/3cb5ccddf5356e8361de4531ef80947b.jpg

    slaughtered like animals, (by fiends)

    it is time for Russia to repudiate those Bolshevik fiends who genocided so many millions of Russians and others. It is time for a rapprochement between Russians and Germans and Poles and Brits and the entire West, as brothers and sisters with a common enemy: The Zio-Bolshevik/Rothschild banking cabal, no matter what shape they happen to be in, whether Stalin and his NKVD, or Jewish oligarchs who loot the Russian people blind. Putin has freed Russia from the later, now he needs to free Russia from the former.

    As long as Putin and the Russians continue to act like the Red Army 'liberated' anyone, they'll continue to be the eternal chumps of Rothschild. And invite more of Rothschild's war mongering and horrors and its rabid dog NATO.

    Just say no to Stalin and FDR and Churchill and Hitler as the scourge of the 20th century.

    Say no to the International Zio-Bankers for whom all of these men were the dupes of.

    and repudiate the Red Terror.

    and watch as the war pigs are emasculated by their lies and devil's tricks, that depend on tweaking the nationalistic sentiments of neighboring peoples who are natural allies, but who are being duped, big time by ethno-centric tricks and false narratives.

    Russians and Ukrainians are both victims of men like Stalin (yesterday) and kolomoisky (today).

    but they're all too parochial to see the obvious

    >>sigh<<

    Why in God’s name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He’s playing directly into John McCain’s hand!

    Because it’s more important than what balts,mcCain or buthurtbelt think. It’s like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy. Your antisoviet rant is irrelevant

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    It’s like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy
     
    I'm an American and I haven't celebrated- in my heart- the 4th of July since I've become all too terrifyingly aware that it was elements inside my own fecal government that perpetrated 9/11.

    I may still eat barbeque and drink a cold one, and enjoy the company of family and friends, but feeling any pride at being a citizen of the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' would be grotesque and demeaning. Since it's not true anymore. And hasn't been for a very long time.

    Just like Russia, America too lost her soul a century ago, fighting in that war to end all peace. And turning the planet over to the tender mercies of the (banking cabal) Fiend.

    Just like Russia, America too fought in WWII, and behaved like a rabid, frothing murderous dog. Fire bombing civilians after the war was won, and imposing horrors upon a defeated people that made Satan's lips curl in sadistic and malevolent triumph.

    Yes, Hitler was an arrogant racist and looked down on Slavs. He also looked down on Americans as fools and sub-humans. But that doesn't mean I take any pleasure at what America did to the German people after the war was over. Hitler was flawed and guilty, (just like Stalin) but only a small percentage of Germans were Nazis, and what ever Hitler did, didn't justify burning German children alive, as the Americans did, or raping German (and everyone else's) women and girls wholesale like the Red Army did.

    What happened after the war was the coming of the 'narrative'. A cartoon-like fairytale that posited the Germans as evil devils hell bent on genociding the planet and turning everyone into slaves.

    While the noble Allies were all saintly heros who saved the world from Hitler.

    Well bullshit, my deluded Russian friend. The tragedy of the 20th century began with Bolshevism, which came first, before Nazism. And Nazism was a direct consequence of genocidal Bolshevism. Or are you one of those dishonest apologists for the girlscouts in the NKVD, who starved millions of the world's most successful farmers to death, slowly and deliberately?

    Are the genocidal Reds now whitewashed in your mind, and were the good guys?

    the idiotic cartoon narrative of heroic Brits and Americans fighting alongside their noble brothers in arms, the Red Army, as they stomped down the most demonic and evil threat that the world has ever known- is a crock of shit, dude. And it's wayyy past time that we all grow up, and look at our own warts and that of our lying elites. Both in America, England, Russia, and Germany.

    If we don't then what we're doing is allowing the very same Fiend to do it all over again in this century too. Which is exactly what it's up to right now. In case you havent' been paying attention.

    Do you think the average American is arming and funding the Nazis in Kyiv?!

    who do you think is foisting war and strife on Russia's borders? Do you even know what family Victoria Nuland is from, and who her husband and brother and sister in law are?

    get a clue Russia, because the Fiend is coming for you next, ever since Putin shoved him out of the Kremlin.
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  53. Svigor says:

    [quote]So while it might not be any more inhumane to be killed by a nerve agent than by a shrapnel, the former is basically exclusively a civilian killer weapon, whereas the latter is not.[/quote]

    Aren’t most of the front line troops in the Syrian War 1) not much better equipped to handle chemical weapons than civilians are, and 2) interspersed with the civilian population as a matter of course?

    [quote]I am merely criticizing Trump’s hypocrisy in using Assad’s supposed killing of “little babies” when his nation kills millions.[/quote]

    Trump’s America has killed millions? We killed millions in 2016? 2015? 2014? How far back do we have to go, before America’s unjust kills actually tally up at 2 million or more? The seventies? The sixties? The 18th century? I know leftists love to pile on bullshit totals from hither and yon, but I tend to call that BS.

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  54. Svigor says:

    Fuck, venue change, sorry for the tags, lol.

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  55. @Rurik

    We have no vital national interest in Syria’s civil war. ...

    For ISIS, it is the dream of a caliphate. For al-Qaida, it is about driving the Crusaders out of the Dar al Islam. For the Turks, it is, as always, about the Kurds.

    For Assad, this war is about his survival and that of his regime. For Putin, it is about Russia remaining a great power and not losing its last naval base in the Med. For Iran, this is about preserving a land bridge to its Shiite ally Hezbollah. For Hezbollah it is about not being cut off from the Shiite world and isolated in Lebanon.

    Because all have vital interests in Syria, all have invested more blood in this conflict than have we
     

    you forgot about one of the players Mr Buchanan. The main one.

    And they have invested zero blood, and why should they when they can always farm out their killing and dying to others?

    it's the one for whom American morality (if there is such a thing anymore) and treasure is squandered and Americans lives will be lost

    it's the one for whom all of this carnage and bloodshed; from Iraq to Libya to Syria and on to Iran and Russia and others are all being foisted upon a terrorized and bullied planet

    I wonder...

    now that Putin's Russia is on the receiving end of the Zio-Fiend, will he contemplate what it must have been like for the Germans and Eastern Europeans who fought the same Fiend back when Russia was its host, as America is today. Will he perhaps attenuate his belligerence towards those neighbors of his who want to honor their grandfathers who fought the Bolshevik Fiend, now that Putin sees it up close and personal?

    Montenegro has just been brought into NATO as a direct confrontation to Putin and Russia.

    Just as Germany was confronted by watching what the Fiend had done to the Kulaks. Knowing it had its sights on Germany. Is Putin intelligent enough and honest enough to connect the dots?

    Is he statesman enough to ramp down the May day parades and seek rapprochement with the Baltic states and Poland and Ukraine and others?

    He could diffuse this looming apocalypse before it takes on a life of its own- simply by mollifying the fear and loathing of Russia today by the Eastern European states that see Russia as unrepentant for those terrible Red Army crimes and the decades of occupation / communist slavery.

    otherwise why would Montenegro want to belong to NATO? Why should Ukraine want to belong to NATO, unless it sees Russia as a threat? Putin could be the greatest statesman the world has ever known if he could only find a way to placate Eastern Europe. And it would cost him and Russia exactly nothing, except a smidgen of (chest-thumping, ultra-nationalistic) pride.

    “If only Putin would make nice to the Baltic states and Poland ……”

    delicious humor …..I sleep better knowing that brave Montenegro is safely in Nato’s warm embrace …….

    …and thank God Russia’s GDP is only slightly larger than Canada’…..imagine the evil it would do in the world if it ever grew to even Italy’s size ….te mind boggles.

    Thank God for the patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom for all of us poor non-Americans to hold in our hearts.

    …if only Putin would make nice……

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    patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom

    …if only Putin would make nice……
     
    umm.. dumbass,

    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?

    do you think it's because of America? Or Russia?

    there is fear and loathing of Russia that could be mollified easily if Putin would repudiate the crimes of the Soviets and set at ease the fragile sensibilities of the Baltic states and Ukraine and others that suffered from Russia's imperialism. Duh!

    the Russian government under especially Stalin was not an angel James. Hardly. Russians suffered, and so did all her neighbors. The Poles suffered. Ever hear of the Katyn forest James?

    yes, if Putin would tone down the May 1 parades, and reach out with rhetoric to her neighbors, it wouldn't cost Russia one Ruble.

    Tell Eastern Europe to bulldoze the monuments to the Red Army (rapists) in her town squares if they want to. How is demanding that they continue to honor those abominations upon their sacred soul critical to the Russian people any longer?

    is the chest-thumping nationalism at having been Rothschild's dupe for so long, a matter of ethnic pride?

    As an American, I can tell you that I sure feel no pride at what my government has done to so many millions of Iraqis and Libyans and Afghans and Syrians and so many others, at the behest of the Fiend... that controls my government as if "by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters".

    Do you know where that quote comes from James? And who said those words and about whom?

    check it out
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  56. Rurik says:
    @Zzz

    Why in God’s name must Putin and Russia continually provoke Eastern Europe and the Baltic states with chest-thumping May day belligerence? He’s playing directly into John McCain’s hand!
     
    Because it's more important than what balts,mcCain or buthurtbelt think. It's like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy. Your antisoviet rant is irrelevant

    It’s like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy

    I’m an American and I haven’t celebrated- in my heart- the 4th of July since I’ve become all too terrifyingly aware that it was elements inside my own fecal government that perpetrated 9/11.

    I may still eat barbeque and drink a cold one, and enjoy the company of family and friends, but feeling any pride at being a citizen of the ‘land of the free and the home of the brave’ would be grotesque and demeaning. Since it’s not true anymore. And hasn’t been for a very long time.

    Just like Russia, America too lost her soul a century ago, fighting in that war to end all peace. And turning the planet over to the tender mercies of the (banking cabal) Fiend.

    Just like Russia, America too fought in WWII, and behaved like a rabid, frothing murderous dog. Fire bombing civilians after the war was won, and imposing horrors upon a defeated people that made Satan’s lips curl in sadistic and malevolent triumph.

    Yes, Hitler was an arrogant racist and looked down on Slavs. He also looked down on Americans as fools and sub-humans. But that doesn’t mean I take any pleasure at what America did to the German people after the war was over. Hitler was flawed and guilty, (just like Stalin) but only a small percentage of Germans were Nazis, and what ever Hitler did, didn’t justify burning German children alive, as the Americans did, or raping German (and everyone else’s) women and girls wholesale like the Red Army did.

    What happened after the war was the coming of the ‘narrative’. A cartoon-like fairytale that posited the Germans as evil devils hell bent on genociding the planet and turning everyone into slaves.

    While the noble Allies were all saintly heros who saved the world from Hitler.

    Well bullshit, my deluded Russian friend. The tragedy of the 20th century began with Bolshevism, which came first, before Nazism. And Nazism was a direct consequence of genocidal Bolshevism. Or are you one of those dishonest apologists for the girlscouts in the NKVD, who starved millions of the world’s most successful farmers to death, slowly and deliberately?

    Are the genocidal Reds now whitewashed in your mind, and were the good guys?

    the idiotic cartoon narrative of heroic Brits and Americans fighting alongside their noble brothers in arms, the Red Army, as they stomped down the most demonic and evil threat that the world has ever known- is a crock of shit, dude. And it’s wayyy past time that we all grow up, and look at our own warts and that of our lying elites. Both in America, England, Russia, and Germany.

    If we don’t then what we’re doing is allowing the very same Fiend to do it all over again in this century too. Which is exactly what it’s up to right now. In case you havent’ been paying attention.

    Do you think the average American is arming and funding the Nazis in Kyiv?!

    who do you think is foisting war and strife on Russia’s borders? Do you even know what family Victoria Nuland is from, and who her husband and brother and sister in law are?

    get a clue Russia, because the Fiend is coming for you next, ever since Putin shoved him out of the Kremlin.

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    You are mostly correct my friend.
    See Tomatobubble.com for a slight correction.
    , @bluedog
    And my friend you have no idea of just how many feel the same way, I have ever since 1963 when they murdered a sitting president and that was the day we became just like any third world country
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  57. Rurik says:
    @James of Galacia
    "If only Putin would make nice to the Baltic states and Poland ......"

    delicious humor .....I sleep better knowing that brave Montenegro is safely in Nato's warm embrace .......

    ...and thank God Russia's GDP is only slightly larger than Canada'.....imagine the evil it would do in the world if it ever grew to even Italy's size ....te mind boggles.

    Thank God for the patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom for all of us poor non-Americans to hold in our hearts.

    ...if only Putin would make nice......

    patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom

    …if only Putin would make nice……

    umm.. dumbass,

    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?

    do you think it’s because of America? Or Russia?

    there is fear and loathing of Russia that could be mollified easily if Putin would repudiate the crimes of the Soviets and set at ease the fragile sensibilities of the Baltic states and Ukraine and others that suffered from Russia’s imperialism. Duh!

    the Russian government under especially Stalin was not an angel James. Hardly. Russians suffered, and so did all her neighbors. The Poles suffered. Ever hear of the Katyn forest James?

    yes, if Putin would tone down the May 1 parades, and reach out with rhetoric to her neighbors, it wouldn’t cost Russia one Ruble.

    Tell Eastern Europe to bulldoze the monuments to the Red Army (rapists) in her town squares if they want to. How is demanding that they continue to honor those abominations upon their sacred soul critical to the Russian people any longer?

    is the chest-thumping nationalism at having been Rothschild’s dupe for so long, a matter of ethnic pride?

    As an American, I can tell you that I sure feel no pride at what my government has done to so many millions of Iraqis and Libyans and Afghans and Syrians and so many others, at the behest of the Fiend… that controls my government as if “by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters”.

    Do you know where that quote comes from James? And who said those words and about whom?

    check it out

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    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?
     
    Because Montenegrin political and business elites want to be fully part of the NATO/EU party and to have full access to the dinner invitations and the various gravy trains and nice sinecures and stealable budgets that go with it. And Montenegrin people are no less susceptible to media manipulation by self-interested elites than any other nation, especially when they are told it's necessary to be properly part of polite western society.

    I don't believe for a second that Montenegrins actually worry about attack by Russia that is 1000 miles away through some pretty grim terrain and would have to go through Ukraine, Rumania and Serbia to get to them. Opinion seems pretty evenly divided, in any case.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO#Opinion_polls
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  58. Randal says:
    @Rurik

    patriotic Americans who hold the shining light of freedom

    …if only Putin would make nice……
     
    umm.. dumbass,

    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?

    do you think it's because of America? Or Russia?

    there is fear and loathing of Russia that could be mollified easily if Putin would repudiate the crimes of the Soviets and set at ease the fragile sensibilities of the Baltic states and Ukraine and others that suffered from Russia's imperialism. Duh!

    the Russian government under especially Stalin was not an angel James. Hardly. Russians suffered, and so did all her neighbors. The Poles suffered. Ever hear of the Katyn forest James?

    yes, if Putin would tone down the May 1 parades, and reach out with rhetoric to her neighbors, it wouldn't cost Russia one Ruble.

    Tell Eastern Europe to bulldoze the monuments to the Red Army (rapists) in her town squares if they want to. How is demanding that they continue to honor those abominations upon their sacred soul critical to the Russian people any longer?

    is the chest-thumping nationalism at having been Rothschild's dupe for so long, a matter of ethnic pride?

    As an American, I can tell you that I sure feel no pride at what my government has done to so many millions of Iraqis and Libyans and Afghans and Syrians and so many others, at the behest of the Fiend... that controls my government as if "by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters".

    Do you know where that quote comes from James? And who said those words and about whom?

    check it out

    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?

    Because Montenegrin political and business elites want to be fully part of the NATO/EU party and to have full access to the dinner invitations and the various gravy trains and nice sinecures and stealable budgets that go with it. And Montenegrin people are no less susceptible to media manipulation by self-interested elites than any other nation, especially when they are told it’s necessary to be properly part of polite western society.

    I don’t believe for a second that Montenegrins actually worry about attack by Russia that is 1000 miles away through some pretty grim terrain and would have to go through Ukraine, Rumania and Serbia to get to them. Opinion seems pretty evenly divided, in any case.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO#Opinion_polls

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    your post all sounds about right

    but it isn't Montenegro that is still reeling so much from the Soviet domination for generations, and I don't think they have lots of ethnic Russians that were installed during the Soviet period and who continue to speak Russian and resent it when locals honor their WWII war heroes. Like Estonia for instance, where these Russians are a thorn, insofar as they want to live in these countries but not assimilate.

    At least that's what's I've glimmered over the years.

    NATO is a military alliance, but perhaps they see it as step closer to Miley Cyress and Lady Gaga- and want their daughters to have a chance at such fame and fortune too.

    It didn't please Russia, that's for sure.

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  59. The Return of the Swamp Thing!

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  60. @Rurik

    It’s like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy
     
    I'm an American and I haven't celebrated- in my heart- the 4th of July since I've become all too terrifyingly aware that it was elements inside my own fecal government that perpetrated 9/11.

    I may still eat barbeque and drink a cold one, and enjoy the company of family and friends, but feeling any pride at being a citizen of the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' would be grotesque and demeaning. Since it's not true anymore. And hasn't been for a very long time.

    Just like Russia, America too lost her soul a century ago, fighting in that war to end all peace. And turning the planet over to the tender mercies of the (banking cabal) Fiend.

    Just like Russia, America too fought in WWII, and behaved like a rabid, frothing murderous dog. Fire bombing civilians after the war was won, and imposing horrors upon a defeated people that made Satan's lips curl in sadistic and malevolent triumph.

    Yes, Hitler was an arrogant racist and looked down on Slavs. He also looked down on Americans as fools and sub-humans. But that doesn't mean I take any pleasure at what America did to the German people after the war was over. Hitler was flawed and guilty, (just like Stalin) but only a small percentage of Germans were Nazis, and what ever Hitler did, didn't justify burning German children alive, as the Americans did, or raping German (and everyone else's) women and girls wholesale like the Red Army did.

    What happened after the war was the coming of the 'narrative'. A cartoon-like fairytale that posited the Germans as evil devils hell bent on genociding the planet and turning everyone into slaves.

    While the noble Allies were all saintly heros who saved the world from Hitler.

    Well bullshit, my deluded Russian friend. The tragedy of the 20th century began with Bolshevism, which came first, before Nazism. And Nazism was a direct consequence of genocidal Bolshevism. Or are you one of those dishonest apologists for the girlscouts in the NKVD, who starved millions of the world's most successful farmers to death, slowly and deliberately?

    Are the genocidal Reds now whitewashed in your mind, and were the good guys?

    the idiotic cartoon narrative of heroic Brits and Americans fighting alongside their noble brothers in arms, the Red Army, as they stomped down the most demonic and evil threat that the world has ever known- is a crock of shit, dude. And it's wayyy past time that we all grow up, and look at our own warts and that of our lying elites. Both in America, England, Russia, and Germany.

    If we don't then what we're doing is allowing the very same Fiend to do it all over again in this century too. Which is exactly what it's up to right now. In case you havent' been paying attention.

    Do you think the average American is arming and funding the Nazis in Kyiv?!

    who do you think is foisting war and strife on Russia's borders? Do you even know what family Victoria Nuland is from, and who her husband and brother and sister in law are?

    get a clue Russia, because the Fiend is coming for you next, ever since Putin shoved him out of the Kremlin.

    You are mostly correct my friend.
    See Tomatobubble.com for a slight correction.

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  61. bluedog says:
    @Rurik

    It’s like saying americans to stop with their 4july because it make brits feel uneasy
     
    I'm an American and I haven't celebrated- in my heart- the 4th of July since I've become all too terrifyingly aware that it was elements inside my own fecal government that perpetrated 9/11.

    I may still eat barbeque and drink a cold one, and enjoy the company of family and friends, but feeling any pride at being a citizen of the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' would be grotesque and demeaning. Since it's not true anymore. And hasn't been for a very long time.

    Just like Russia, America too lost her soul a century ago, fighting in that war to end all peace. And turning the planet over to the tender mercies of the (banking cabal) Fiend.

    Just like Russia, America too fought in WWII, and behaved like a rabid, frothing murderous dog. Fire bombing civilians after the war was won, and imposing horrors upon a defeated people that made Satan's lips curl in sadistic and malevolent triumph.

    Yes, Hitler was an arrogant racist and looked down on Slavs. He also looked down on Americans as fools and sub-humans. But that doesn't mean I take any pleasure at what America did to the German people after the war was over. Hitler was flawed and guilty, (just like Stalin) but only a small percentage of Germans were Nazis, and what ever Hitler did, didn't justify burning German children alive, as the Americans did, or raping German (and everyone else's) women and girls wholesale like the Red Army did.

    What happened after the war was the coming of the 'narrative'. A cartoon-like fairytale that posited the Germans as evil devils hell bent on genociding the planet and turning everyone into slaves.

    While the noble Allies were all saintly heros who saved the world from Hitler.

    Well bullshit, my deluded Russian friend. The tragedy of the 20th century began with Bolshevism, which came first, before Nazism. And Nazism was a direct consequence of genocidal Bolshevism. Or are you one of those dishonest apologists for the girlscouts in the NKVD, who starved millions of the world's most successful farmers to death, slowly and deliberately?

    Are the genocidal Reds now whitewashed in your mind, and were the good guys?

    the idiotic cartoon narrative of heroic Brits and Americans fighting alongside their noble brothers in arms, the Red Army, as they stomped down the most demonic and evil threat that the world has ever known- is a crock of shit, dude. And it's wayyy past time that we all grow up, and look at our own warts and that of our lying elites. Both in America, England, Russia, and Germany.

    If we don't then what we're doing is allowing the very same Fiend to do it all over again in this century too. Which is exactly what it's up to right now. In case you havent' been paying attention.

    Do you think the average American is arming and funding the Nazis in Kyiv?!

    who do you think is foisting war and strife on Russia's borders? Do you even know what family Victoria Nuland is from, and who her husband and brother and sister in law are?

    get a clue Russia, because the Fiend is coming for you next, ever since Putin shoved him out of the Kremlin.

    And my friend you have no idea of just how many feel the same way, I have ever since 1963 when they murdered a sitting president and that was the day we became just like any third world country

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    ever since 1963 when they murdered a sitting president
     
    that's about the time I was born, but 9/11 did it for me

    whoo boy
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  62. The only Syria strategy that makes sense is to leave it alone, and get far away. We can’t fix every damned problem in the world.

    Trump also needs to kick his daughter and hubbie out of the White House and limit them to coming over once a week for dinner. Ivanka is a friggin disaster — she knows sweet FA about foreign policy and comes across (sorry) as a stupid liberal woman who wears a pussy hat. Trump is making himself look stupid and soft headed by allowing his daughter into the WH. Trump never said “when elected, Ivanka is coming in and she will play a major role in foreign and domestic policy.” He lets his friggin’ daughter come into the WH and have an office and be an advisor? WTH? Hey Ivanka, BUTT OUT. Go away, tend to your businesses, and raise your kids. TAke hubby with you. We do not want you in the WH.

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  63. Rurik says:
    @Randal

    why do you think Montenegro joined NATO?
     
    Because Montenegrin political and business elites want to be fully part of the NATO/EU party and to have full access to the dinner invitations and the various gravy trains and nice sinecures and stealable budgets that go with it. And Montenegrin people are no less susceptible to media manipulation by self-interested elites than any other nation, especially when they are told it's necessary to be properly part of polite western society.

    I don't believe for a second that Montenegrins actually worry about attack by Russia that is 1000 miles away through some pretty grim terrain and would have to go through Ukraine, Rumania and Serbia to get to them. Opinion seems pretty evenly divided, in any case.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Montenegro_to_NATO#Opinion_polls

    your post all sounds about right

    but it isn’t Montenegro that is still reeling so much from the Soviet domination for generations, and I don’t think they have lots of ethnic Russians that were installed during the Soviet period and who continue to speak Russian and resent it when locals honor their WWII war heroes. Like Estonia for instance, where these Russians are a thorn, insofar as they want to live in these countries but not assimilate.

    At least that’s what’s I’ve glimmered over the years.

    NATO is a military alliance, but perhaps they see it as step closer to Miley Cyress and Lady Gaga- and want their daughters to have a chance at such fame and fortune too.

    It didn’t please Russia, that’s for sure.

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  64. Rurik says:
    @bluedog
    And my friend you have no idea of just how many feel the same way, I have ever since 1963 when they murdered a sitting president and that was the day we became just like any third world country

    ever since 1963 when they murdered a sitting president

    that’s about the time I was born, but 9/11 did it for me

    whoo boy

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  65. The doddering old fool is out of his mind and cares for nothing but flattery.

    We have elected King Lear.

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    (Slightly expanded version.)

    I’ve come to my own conclusion about Donald Trump, and it doesn’t involve any relationship psychology, any conspiracy theories, or any n-dimensional baccarat. It’s actually so simple that the revelation of it will be rather anticlimactic.

    I think he’s just not really that smart. He doesn’t have a deep and complex mind. He doesn’t know a whole lot about the world, about history, geography, science, philosophy. And the Deep State has figured out that flattery avails quite a bit with him.

    In short, we’ve elected King Lear.

    I can’t honestly say I was fooled. Looking back over the campaign, the signs were all there. Trump did and said more than a few things which I found absolutely cringe-worthy from an Alt-Right perspective, but which I willingly repressed out of a fierce desire to get a victory for nationalism. I knew that this was our time to stand our ground and fight, and we did that. The Alt-Right has proven that it is able to think politically, to define objectives and to organize and pursue them with rational strategies. We are, as Greg Johnson said, “a government in exile.”

    Despite the failures of our candidate, the fact that we managed to elect him was a real victory for us, and I will take that with me as I soldier onward.
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  66. @Intelligent Dasein
    The doddering old fool is out of his mind and cares for nothing but flattery.

    We have elected King Lear.

    (Slightly expanded version.)

    I’ve come to my own conclusion about Donald Trump, and it doesn’t involve any relationship psychology, any conspiracy theories, or any n-dimensional baccarat. It’s actually so simple that the revelation of it will be rather anticlimactic.

    I think he’s just not really that smart. He doesn’t have a deep and complex mind. He doesn’t know a whole lot about the world, about history, geography, science, philosophy. And the Deep State has figured out that flattery avails quite a bit with him.

    In short, we’ve elected King Lear.

    I can’t honestly say I was fooled. Looking back over the campaign, the signs were all there. Trump did and said more than a few things which I found absolutely cringe-worthy from an Alt-Right perspective, but which I willingly repressed out of a fierce desire to get a victory for nationalism. I knew that this was our time to stand our ground and fight, and we did that. The Alt-Right has proven that it is able to think politically, to define objectives and to organize and pursue them with rational strategies. We are, as Greg Johnson said, “a government in exile.”

    Despite the failures of our candidate, the fact that we managed to elect him was a real victory for us, and I will take that with me as I soldier onward.

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    What choice did we have. Luis Gutierrez was openly bragging about the amnesty he was going to have ready 5 minutes after Hillary was sworn in. Every Republican was ready start cucking along.
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  67. MarkinLA says:
    @Intelligent Dasein
    (Slightly expanded version.)

    I’ve come to my own conclusion about Donald Trump, and it doesn’t involve any relationship psychology, any conspiracy theories, or any n-dimensional baccarat. It’s actually so simple that the revelation of it will be rather anticlimactic.

    I think he’s just not really that smart. He doesn’t have a deep and complex mind. He doesn’t know a whole lot about the world, about history, geography, science, philosophy. And the Deep State has figured out that flattery avails quite a bit with him.

    In short, we’ve elected King Lear.

    I can’t honestly say I was fooled. Looking back over the campaign, the signs were all there. Trump did and said more than a few things which I found absolutely cringe-worthy from an Alt-Right perspective, but which I willingly repressed out of a fierce desire to get a victory for nationalism. I knew that this was our time to stand our ground and fight, and we did that. The Alt-Right has proven that it is able to think politically, to define objectives and to organize and pursue them with rational strategies. We are, as Greg Johnson said, “a government in exile.”

    Despite the failures of our candidate, the fact that we managed to elect him was a real victory for us, and I will take that with me as I soldier onward.

    What choice did we have. Luis Gutierrez was openly bragging about the amnesty he was going to have ready 5 minutes after Hillary was sworn in. Every Republican was ready start cucking along.

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