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President Donald Trump could have been more deft and diplomatic in how he engineered that immediate pullout from northeastern Syria.

Yet that withdrawal was as inevitable as were its consequences.

A thousand U.S. troops and their Kurdish allies were not going to dominate indefinitely the entire northeast quadrant of a country the size of Syria against the will of the Damascus regime and army.

Had the U.S. refused to vacate Syrian lands on Turkey’s demand, a fight would be inevitable, whether with Turkey, Damascus or both. And this nation would neither support nor sustain a new war with Turks or Syrians.

And whenever the Americans did leave, the Kurds, facing a far more powerful Turkey, were going to have to negotiate the best deal they could with Syria’s Bashar Assad.

Nor was President Recep Erdogan of Turkey going to allow Syrian Kurds to roost indefinitely just across his southern border, cheek by jowl with the Turkish Kurds of the PKK that Erdogan regards as a terrorist threat to the unity and survival of his country.

It was Russia that stepped in to broker the deal whereby the Kurds stood down and let the Syrian army take over their positions and defend Syria’s border regions against the Turks.

Some ISIS prisoners under Kurdish control have escaped.

But if the Syrian army takes custody of these prisoners from their Kurdish guards, those ISIS fighters and their families will suffer fates that these terrorists have invited.

Denunciation of Erdogan for invading Syria is almost universal. Congress is clamoring for sanctions. NATO allies are cutting off weapons sales. But before we act, some history should be revisited.

Turkey has been a NATO ally, a treaty ally, for almost seven decades. The Kurds are not. Turkish troops fought alongside us in Korea. Turkey hosted Jupiter missiles targeted on Russia in the Cold War, nuclear missiles we withdrew as our concession in the secret JFK-Khrushchev deal that ended the Cuban missile crisis.

The Turks accepted the U.S. weapons, and then accepted their removal.

The Turks have the second-largest army in NATO. They are a nation of 80 million, a bridge between Europe and the Middle East. They dominate the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus, the entrance to and exit from the Black Sea for all U.S. and Russian warships.

U.S. warplanes are based at Turkey’s Incirlik air base, as are 50 U.S. nuclear weapons. And Turkey harbors millions of refugees from the Syrian civil war, whom Erdogan keeps from crossing into Europe.

Moreover, Erdogan’s concern over the Syrian Kurdish combat veterans on his border should be understood by us. When Pancho Villa launched his murderous 1916 raid into Columbus, New Mexico, we sent General “Black Jack” Pershing with an army deep into Mexico to run him down.

With no allies left fighting on our side in Syria, the small U.S. military force there is likely to be withdrawn swiftly and fully.

Today, the Middle East and world have been awakened to the reality that when Trump said he was ending everlasting commitments and bringing U.S. troops home from “endless wars,” he was not bluffing.

The Saudis got the message when the U.S., in response to a missile and drone strike from Iran or Iranian-backed militias, which shut down half of Riyadh’s oil production, did nothing.

Said Washington, this is between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Hence, it was stunning that the administration, at the end of last week, under fire from both parties in the House and Senate for “abandoning” the Kurds, announced the deployment of 1,500 to 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to bolster the kingdom’s defense against missile attacks.

The only explanation for the contradiction is Sen. Henry Ashurst’s maxim: “The clammy hand of consistency should never rest for long upon the shoulder of a statesman.”

Yet, this latest U.S. deployment notwithstanding, Saudi Arabia has got the message: Trump will sell them all the weapons they can buy, but no Saudi purchase ensures that the Yanks will come and fight their wars.

ORDER IT NOW

Thus, the Saudis have begun negotiating with the Houthi rebels, with whom they have been at war in Yemen since 2015. And they are seeking talks with Iran. A diplomatic resolution of quarrels seems to have come to commend itself to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, once he learned that the Americans do not regard Saudis as we do NATO allies.

Undeniably, the decisions — not to retaliate against Iran for the attack on Riyadh’s oil facilities, and the decision to terminate abruptly the alliance with Syria’s Kurds — sent shock waves to the world.

Where the Americans spent much of the Cold War ruminating about an “agonizing reappraisal” of commitments to malingering allies, this time the Yanks may be deadly serious.

This time, the Americans may really be going home.

Every nation that today believes it has an implied or a treaty guarantee that the U.S. will fight on its behalf should probably recheck its hole card.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2019 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Nations don’t have friends – just interests, and when those interests wane, so does the “friendship”. Israel would do well to heed this message. We are not their allies, literally or figuratively. The venal ambitions of individual politicians have led us to this dead end.

    Those same venal politicians will soon learn to fear their own people more than the zionist interests that feather their nests.

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
    , @anon19
  2. So Larry thinks it is virtuous of the Turk to murder Koreans half way around the globe Just because the U.S. Was?

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @anon
  3. Rohnm says:

    It wouldn’t be “The Forever War” if it ended, now would it?

    Ten years from now, American troops will be in Syria.

    Did not know about the nukes in Turkey. Better get those stateside ASAP.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  4. Denunciation of Erdogan for invading Syria is almost universal. Congress is clamoring for sanctions.

    From the same scumbags who said nothing about Israel’s assaults on Syria and support for ISIS.
    And of course, they say nothing about Israel’s theft of remaining West Bank territory.

    Whores of Zion. Congress doesn’t have representatives of the people but servants of the (Jewish) oligarchs and elites.

  5. A thousand U.S. troops and their Kurdish allies were not going to dominate indefinitely the entire northeast quadrant of a country the size of Syria against the will of the Damascus regime and army.

    Of course, a 1000 US troops can’t do much, but that was not the point. They were stationed there to serve as a warning and trigger. If Syria, Russia, or Turks make a move and attack those 1000 troops, then the triggered US could retaliate by declaring a major war and intervene big time. So, the US could have stationed just a 100 or even 50 troops. As long as they were there, other powers would be reluctant to make a move out of fear of the US.

    Jews wanted it that way to keep Syria divided. Kurds were merely their proxy.

    This guys gets it at 1:01:00 of the video.

    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  6. Good stuff from Syrian Girl

    • Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
  7. Paul says:

    The Kurds — who were allied with the United States in fighting ISIS — have learned the truth of the saying: Never go down a well with an American rope.

    • Agree: Richard P
  8. @Bill Jones

    The point at issue is who’s an ally and who isn’t. Virtue has nothing to do with it.

  9. Realist says:

    This time, the Americans may really be going home.

    Uhmm, not so much. The Deep State has invested lots of time and money on world hegemony…it is their bread and butter. American belligerence will not end until the Deep State is destroyed, and that destruction will not be through the electoral process.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  10. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    “Yanks”?

    • Replies: @El Dato
  11. Whatever the causes, the effects, the yeas & nays the important thing is that Syria is stabilised, it’s borders regulated & any unwelcome visitors sent packing.
    Something roughly similar may be said of Yemen.
    Those “elements” who perpetually seek to destabilise the M.E should be shoved roughly back into their box….

  12. El Dato says:

    You are not really against a little “no-fly” zone in Syria, are you? Come on, it’s gonna be “easy in, easy out”. They are practically pulling babies out of incubators!

    Fake news fail! ABC claims footage from Kentucky gun range shows Turkish attack on Kurdish civilians

    And also, Nebojsa Malic having fun:

    Westerners who propped up Islamist ‘moderate rebels’ suddenly realize they’re terrorists as they launch ‘genocide’ of Kurds

  13. KenH says:

    There’s fewer and fewer boomer warmongers and democracy spreaders among family, friends and acquaintances which is a good thing but if leftist interventionists win in 2020 then no, the interventionist era will come a roaring back. Leftist/liberal interventionism is the siamese twin to Jewish neoconservatism so we (oops), I mean America, could be right back to where we used to be especially if someone like chief Warren gets elected. But it will be after she takes some white nationalist scalps.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  14. El Dato says:
    @Priss Factor

    This latest incident, set against the impeachment mania and the reportedly “expanding” Russiagate investigation of U.S. Attorney John Durham, accelerates our timeline to chaos. We are speeding toward a situation when someone in one of these camps refuses to obey a major decree, arrest order, or court decision, at which point Americans will get to experience the joys of their political futures being decided by phone calls to generals and police chiefs.

    Seriously, I hope the Armed Forces are still with the heart in the right place.

    Will it before 2020 or after?

  15. MEexpert says:

    Let us get one thing straight. America did not defeat ISIS. The Russians, the Iranians, and the Hezbullah did. The Americans have not defeated anyone except maybe the American Indians and that was because they were in their backyard.

    • Agree: bluedog, Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @Rurik
  16. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist

    If anyone doubts this, have a look at Mike Whitney’s February 27, 2019, “Trump Is Right About Syria. It’s Time to Pack Up and Go Home,” which caught my eye under the Of Related Interest banner at the end of this Buchanan article. It’s much better written, but sadly naïve about the willingness of the current and the ability of any President to resist Big War.

    And notice how Mr. Buchanan struggles to maintain the illusion, even within the shelf life of one of his biweekly articles:

    —-

    Said Washington, this is between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

    Hence, it was stunning that the administration, at the end of last week, under fire from both parties in the House and Senate for “abandoning” the Kurds, announced the deployment of 1,500 to 3,000 troops to Saudi Arabia to bolster the kingdom’s defense against missile attacks.

    The only explanation for the contradiction is Sen. Henry Ashurst’s maxim: “The clammy hand of consistency should never rest for long upon the shoulder of a statesman.”

    Yet, this latest U.S. deployment notwithstanding, …

    —-

    Blah, blah, blah. The author doesn’t believe it, and neither should you. Articles like this are written to keep “Mr. Paleoconservative’s” contingent of the American sheep voting Red v Blue, and then waiting around for the next Most Important Election Ever.

    • Agree: Realist
  17. @Rohnm

    Ten years from now, American troops will be in Syria.

    Ten years from now, American troops will all be in the US to brutally suppress the civil war that will follow the unseating, whether by impeachment or more drastic measures, of President Trump. It won’t help that a bankrupt Medicare and Social Security will starve and kill our elders while demanding a third or more of everyone else’s incomes for those purposes alone. Fortunately for the elite, nationwide rolling blackouts will make it difficult for the rebels to keep their iToys charged long enough to organise the rebellion, while DHS Viper teams policing internal travel will make it near impossible for those who do get the message to get to their assembly points. GMO foods laden with HFCS will make them so many Americans lethargic and obese that they couldn’t rebel if they wanted to. Chicago will be walled off and written off as a Homeland à la Zuid Afrika.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @follyofwar
  18. Pat Buchanan is moving toward excellency.
    …………………………………………..
    p.s,

    Too strong actions against Turkey by US may make Turkey move into Russia China camp.
    US must be careful.

  19. @Cloak And Dagger

    “We[Americans] are not their[the Israelis] allies, literally or figuratively.”

    Got that right. We’re their bitches, and until someone in Washington grows some balls and begins putting the needs of US citizens ahead of the needs of Israel, that isn’t going to change.

  20. @Priss Factor

    Message to Syrian Girl: When aren’t the American media lying?

    The Soviets were fortunate. That they were being fed tripe and lies was obvious to the average Soviet citizen. The average American citizen is clueless.

    • Agree: Escher
  21. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bill Jones

    1- Its not US’s business
    2 People want to frame the problem that way “Turk to murder Koreans half way around the globe” to make it look like a moral issue when they are essentially trying to continue the Neocon agenda : war abroad,enrichment of Israel ,destruction of Israel’s enemies ,neglect of the pressing needs within the country ,promotion of Israeli interests as US interests

  22. Rurik says:
    @MEexpert

    Let us get one thing straight. America did not defeat ISIS.

    For the record, the Americans (Obama regime), created ISIS- with the intention that they use Libya’s stolen arms caches to hack and slaughter their way across Syria with the intention of doing to Syria what the cackling hag had gloated over doing to Libya.

    ISIS was as much a creation of the ZUSA as the destabilization in Ukraine. Or God knows how many ‘Colour revolutions’ the world over.

    It’s sort of like the Soviet menace. It was Woodrow Wilson who facilitated Trotsky’s travel to Russia with suitcases full of cash, in order to agitate for Bolshevism. It was NYC banksters that funded Bolshevism, and FDR who recognized the Soviet Union as legitimate.

    Then the ZUSA spends trillions of dollars on “defense” spending, to protect the ‘free world’ from the demon that it created.

    The reason I suspect so many people wonder if our elites aren’t lizard hybrids- is because they so often act like it. Their psychopathy defies all rationality and human agency. Their depraved hatred for mankind seems beyond the realm of the human, and resembles more the slime dripping from a komodo dragon’s chin.

    =

    https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.m2f5ewiXEQznT7VlK0vzxgHaHa&pid=Api&w=1024&h=1024&rs=1

    • Agree: Curmudgeon
    • Replies: @anon
    , @MEexpert
  23. Paul Craig Roberts is so right.

    Most journalists are presstitutes working for the BOSS.

    Only way to keep your job.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/kdMuYPw4G_4/

  24. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    ….the Americans (Obama regime), created ISIS- with the intention that they use Libya’s stolen arms caches to hack and slaughter their way across Syria…

    Yes, and that’s why I’m skeptical of dumping of Erdogan. How eager was he for this conflict? Did the Obama CIA promise him N. Syria for his complicity? Doubtless assuring that Assad would fall quickly! Or maybe they dangled EU membership, if he joined the team.

    Maybe Phil can enlighten us. We know that Robert Ford (US Embassador to Syria) was meeting with Syrian “civil society” activists for months before the 2011 demonstrations. Was Erdogan/Turkey also involved in infiltrating, inflaming those anti-Assad elements? How did Turkey involvement begin? Was the CIA actively involved before the fall of Libya?

  25. @Priss Factor

    Jews wanted it that way to keep Syria divided. Kurds were merely their proxy.

    It’s called the Yinon Plan
    https://www.unz.com/article/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/
    I read about it in the late 80s. Part of it was demonizing Saddam Hussein. All has gone smoothly for the past 35 years.

  26. TGD says:

    It used to be that Turkey’s armed forces were commanded by staunch secularist generals and admirals. Then Erdogan arrested and jailed most of them. From an article by Reuters News Service:

    Once Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party (AKP) swept to power in 2002 it became locked in a struggle with a military that saw itself as custodian to the secular vision of Ataturk, the soldier-statesman who founded the republic in 1923 after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.

    In 2016, a small disturbance was exaggerated by Erdogan into a major coup attempt. He jailed hundreds of thousands of army officers and men, judges and civil servants.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/07/13/turkeys-post-coup-purge-and-erdogans-private-army-sadat-perincek-gulen/

    Islamist Erdogan’s Turkey does not belong in NATO.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  27. MEexpert says:
    @Rurik

    For the record, the Americans (Obama regime), created ISIS- with the intention that they use Libya’s stolen arms caches to hack and slaughter their way across Syria with the intention of doing to Syria what the cackling hag had gloated over doing to Libya.

    I totally agree. The Al-Qaeda and its later incarnation, the ISIS and the “moderate” groups were all created by ZUSA.

  28. SteveK9 says:

    There is zero proof that it was ‘Iran or Iranian-backed militias’. The Houthis claimed they made the attack. I’m a little tired of things being assumed true, because ‘everyone’ knows they are.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  29. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @SteveK9

    Mr. Paleoconservative has also steadfastly parroted, for example, the Establishment line that Russia “hacked” the DNC emails. Note, too, his creaky pronoun propaganda (“we, us, our”) conflating the American people with Uncle Sam, and his cheerleading for Team Red in every Most Important Election Ever.

    He is a faux dissident, Stagehand Right in the Beltway puppet show.

  30. @The Alarmist

    The civil war will come, and will be far more violent, if Trump wins a second term. Upon re-election, Trump should not hesitate to do what is necessary to crush the Antifa street thugs (an outcome to be very much desired). Martial Law, which a second term Trump may need to employ, is far preferable to anarchy. Coup plotters Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi (to name three) should be arrested for Sedition. Trump could use the ghost of Lincoln for inspiration.

    Last week Unz published a timely article by Washington Watcher II: “He’s the only Trump We’ve Got – It’s him (and us) Against the Ruling Class.” It’s a good read. A thorough cleansing, like a controlled fire to burn off harmful debris, is needed. We stand at the crossroads.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  31. @TGD

    In 2016, a small disturbance was exaggerated by Erdogan into a major coup attempt.

    Somehow I think this was not the case and this “small disturbance” had a very real potential to grow into a very large one. In fact, a global one. Once, one begins to factor Russia into this whole thing, especially shooting down SU-24 by Turkish AF. One has to ask the question if those people who pretend to be “analysts” have any clue. Foreign Policy magazine long ago stopped being serious publication, even before its founder, Samuel Huntington died. I also have to remind about murder of Russia’s Ambassador to Turkey Andrei Karlov. I also can vouch for the piece in FP you referenced is an amateur gibberish by yet another Western “journo”, or, her being a woman, let’s limit it to presstitude.

  32. @follyofwar

    Agreed.
    It is long overdue that America be purged of these neo-CONS, Israeli First traitors and the MIC-CIA filth and parasites. They have done more than enough damage.
    The Democratic Party is in a free fall self-destruct mode as is it’s media arm: the Veritas exposure of Zucker Jew’s CNN is just the beginning of the destruction of the Faux Media.
    These guys are all going down.
    If they try to disrupt the 2020 election then martial law will be resorted to. These scum tried to destroy America and a Critical Mass for change exists. Attempting to subvert this leaves two choices: continue to Purge or go into a Civil War. The sane choice is to Purge.
    Arrests, asset stripping, expulsions; people are going to be very shocked at what comes out prior to the 2020 election and even more shocked at the results.
    America has plenty of people who want a Republic and will die for it. What do the Deep Staters have? Money. That’s it. They can buy only traitors. You can’t buy a Patriot. They are not for sale.
    This is where the unholy alliance of the Black Nobility and the Jews comes undone. It is built on an edifice of lies.

  33. Corvinus says:
    @follyofwar

    “The civil war will come…”

    That is a pipe dream.

    “and will be far more violent…”

    So, are you going to be front and center, or remain on the sidelines like the rest of your armchair warrior brigade?

    “Upon re-election, Trump should not hesitate to do what is necessary to crush the Antifa street thugs (an outcome to be very much desired).”

    Not going to happen.

    “Martial Law, which a second term Trump may need to employ, is far preferable to anarchy.”

    Actually, neither are preferable.

    “Coup plotters Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi (to name three) should be arrested for Sedition. Trump could use the ghost of Lincoln for inspiration.”

    Not going to happen.

    Are you really that far gone from reality?

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  34. bjondo says:

    I wish for a war on Antarctica, humanitarian.
    Send all NeoCons, NeoLiberals, pundits,
    studio warriors, Zionists, mega church preachers,
    modern architects, modern artists,
    AI developers, Republicans, Democrats.
    Toss out rear of big plane.
    Capes, parachutes, clothing, food, fire, not needed.

    Anchors attached to Cheney and Rumsfeld.

    5ds

  35. KenH says:

    It looks like Trump just transferred most of the troops in Syria to Iraq and Saudi Arabia. As usual we get his centrist half measures. The only way Pat could claim the interventionist era is over is if troops stationed in the Middle East and throughout the world start permanently returning stateside.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @anonymous
  36. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @KenH

    “centrist half measures” = lies

    That’s not to single out President Trump, though. None of the Republicans who many people around here keep trusting to rein in Big Government and the Empire delivers. President Reagan, instead of abolishing the US Department of Education, put a crony in charge. President Bush gave the sheep lip service about taxes. President Cheney, according to his 2000 campaign muppet, wasn’t going to run the world.

    Voting (especially RedBlue) for change isn’t just futile — it channels and harmlessly blows off dissent.

  37. @KenH

    The military is almost entirely made up of people who would probably identify as roughly “conservative”. It’s no ones fault but their own if they sign up to defend a nation that despises them. While they’re getting their legs blown off in the desert, the same liberals that have such contempt for them are back home drinking craft beer and watching Netflix.

    I have no sympathy for military types who are killed or maimed in war. Whenever I hear one of those “pray for my son who was killed in Afghanistan” stories I want to say “he died for Israel.”

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  38. @Johnny Smoggins

    Young males who sign up for the military are usually too uneducated to have much of a political ideology. Most join the military for the same reasons that young men have always done. To escape poverty and/or their parents, and to have adventures that they could never have had otherwise. If my military experience during the Vietnam Era is any guide, not many are anxious to go to war, and the majority never see combat.

    I remember that old jingle that my WWII Marine father used to sing: “I joined the Navy to see the world, and what did I see, I saw the sea.” Poor kids are easily tricked by well trained professional recruiters. They are victims. Unlike you, I have compassion and do feel bad for those maimed or killed, especially when it happened during their first term, not so much for the “lifers.” When they first enlist, these kids probably couldn’t find Israel on a map.

    • Replies: @anon
  39. @Corvinus

    You are showing your fear. Flee now or stand your ground and fight. Tick Tock.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  40. Corvinus says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    “You are showing your fear.”

    Indeed, my fear of follyofwar’s ignorance. Are you also in that same camp?

    “Flee now or stand your ground and fight.”

    Flee from what? Fight for what?

    “Tick Tock.”

    Nick, Nack, Paddywack, give your dog a bone. You’re an old man so now go home.

  41. Undeniably, the decisions — not to retaliate against Iran for the attack on Riyadh’s oil facilities,

    Or more likely, the attack wasn’t from Iran at all, but from Israel to stir up shite btwn SA and Iran, and everybody knows it.

    Good on Trump to pull out despite pressure from Zionist puppets deep in his admin like Pence, Pompeo, and the usual Zionist Congress critters Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, Pelosi, Schumer. It takes courage and I applaud him for it.

    Let Turkey, Syria, Russia and the Kurds go work out something on their own. The US needs to stay the hell out of Mideast politics, period. We are done being Israel’s bitch.

  42. anon19 says:

    U.S. troops should never have been in Syria to begin with and NATO should have been dissolved decades ago.

  43. anon19 says:
    @Cloak And Dagger

    With a “friend” like Israel, Americans don’t need any enemies.

    Just ask the guys on the Liberty.

  44. anon[113] • Disclaimer says:
    @follyofwar

    X2. Well said, TY.

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