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“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, then as farce,” a saying attributed to Karl Marx, comes to mind in this time of Trump.

To those of us raised in the Truman era, when the Red Army was imposing its bloody Bolshevik rule on half of Europe, and NATO was needed to keep Stalin’s armies from the Channel, the threat seemed infinitely more serious. And so it was.

There were real traitors in that time.

Alger Hiss, a top State Department aide, at FDR’s side at Yalta, was exposed as a Stalinist spy by Congressman Richard Nixon. Harry Dexter White, No. 2 at Treasury, Laurence Duggan at State, and White House aide Lauchlin Currie were all exposed as spies. Then there was the Rosenberg spy ring that gave Stalin the secrets of the atom bomb.

Who do we have today to match Hiss and the Rosenbergs? A 29-year-old redheaded Russian Annie Oakley named Maria Butina, accused of infiltrating the National Rifle Association and the National Prayer Breakfast.

Is Putin’s Russia really a reincarnation of Stalin’s Soviet Union? Is Russia today a threat of similar magnitude?

Russia is “our No. 1 geopolitical foe,” thundered Mitt Romney in 2012, now cited as a sage by liberals who used to castigate Republicans for any skepticism of detente during the Cold War.

Perhaps it is time to contrast the USSR of Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev with the Russia of Vladimir Putin.

By the beginning of Reagan’s tenure in 1981, 400,000 Red Army troops were in Central Europe, occupying the eastern bank of the Elbe.

West Berlin was surrounded by Russian troops. East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria were all ruled by Moscow’s puppets. All belonged to a Warsaw Pact created to fight NATO. Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia, Ukraine were inside the USSR.

By the end of the Jimmy Carter era, Moscow had driven into Ethiopia, Mozambique and Angola in Africa, Cuba in the Caribbean, and Nicaragua in Central America, in the greatest challenge ever to the Monroe Doctrine.

The Soviets had invaded and occupied Afghanistan. The Soviet navy, built up over 25 years by Adm. Sergey Gorshkov, was a global rival of a U.S. Navy that had sunk to 300 ships.

And today? The Soviet Empire is history. The Soviet Union is history, having splintered into 15 nations. Russia is smaller than it was in the 19th century. Russia is gone from Cuba, Grenada, Central America, Ethiopia, Angola and Mozambique.

The Warsaw Pact is history. The Red Army is gone from Eastern Europe. The former Warsaw Pact nations of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria all belong to NATO, as do the former Soviet “republics” of Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia.

When the flagship of Russia’s navy, the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, sailed from Murmansk to Syria, it had to pass through the North Sea, the Channel, the east Atlantic, the Straits of Gibraltar, and then sail the length of the Med to anchor off Latakia.

Coming and going, the Kuznetsov was within range of anti-ship missiles, aircraft, submarines and surface ships of 20 NATO nations, among them Norway, Britain, Germany, France, Spain and Portugal, and many U.S. bases and warships.

ORDER IT NOW

Entering the Med, the Kuznetsov had to travel, without a naval base to refuel, within range of the missiles, planes and ships of Spain, France, Italy and Greece. Along the banks of the Adriatic and Aegean there are only NATO nations, except for Kosovo, which is home to the largest U.S. base in the Balkans, Camp Bondsteel.

To sail from St. Petersburg through the Baltic Sea to the Atlantic, Russian warships must pass within range of 11 NATO nations — the three Baltic republics, Poland, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Britain and France.

The Black Sea’s western and southern shores are now controlled entirely by NATO: Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey. Russia’s lone land passage to its naval base in Crimea is a narrow bridge from the Kerch Peninsula.

With the breakup of the USSR, Russia has been reduced to two-thirds of the territory and half the population of the Soviet Union.

Its former republics and now neighbors Georgia and Ukraine are hostile. Its space launches are now done from a foreign land, Kazakhstan. Its economy has shrunk to the size of Italy’s.

It has one-tenth the population and one-fifth the economy of its looming neighbor, China, and, except for territory, is even more dwarfed by the United States with a GDP of $20 trillion, and troops, bases and allies all over the world.

Most critically, Russia’s regime is no longer Communist. The ideology that drove its imperialism is dead. There are parties, demonstrations and dissidents in Russia, and an Orthodox faith that is alive and promoted by Putin.

Where, today, is there a vital U.S. interest imperiled by Putin?

Better to jaw-jaw, than war-war, said Churchill. He was right, as is President Trump to keep talking to Putin — right through the Russophobia rampant in this city.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. RobinG says:

    #BROWDERGATE

    In the 90′s, Russia was the victim of Harvard bankers and predatory vulture-capitalists. Sociopath Bill Browder made an illicit fortune, then fabricated a tale of Russian oppression to hide his financial crimes. See the film The Magnitsky Act – Behind the Scenes, linked under Phil Giraldi’s piece today.

    Look at primary sources for Browder research here, including his deposition in the Prevezon Holdings case -

    https://populist.tv/2018/01/20/bill-browder-links-and-resources-to-understand-controversy/

  2. Rational says:

    THE US, GERMANY/EU AND ISRAEL ARE THE AXIS OF EVIL.

    Great article, Pat. Obviously, Russia is not the evil empire.

    Israel and its banana republics, the EU and US, are the real evil empires. Giving visas to 3 million aliens per year, putting people in prison for debating the holocaust (Germany) or speaking out against immigration (UK, Germany, LaPen), maintaining an apartheid state in Israel against the poor Palis, killing children, bombing Iraq and now threatening to bomb Iran—these are all signs of evil.

    We have met the evil empire—and the evil empire is US.

    • Agree: Mike P
  3. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Last week, Mr. Buchanan put enough “Putin’s pilfering of DNC emails,” etc., into his column that commenters were prompted to share contrary information. One of us provided a link to an interview of Mr. Binney about leak versus hack. And that thread is where many learned of the suppressed film about Mr. Browder. (Similarly, Mr. Derbyshire’s last, ridiculous column has generated a great deal of pushback against the demonization of Russia and Mr. Putin.)

    This week, Mr. Buchanan has foregone the unsubstantiated, throwaway descriptions of contemporary Russia and its governmental authorities that have allowed him to hold his spot on the Right fringe of Establishia. And there’s even a refreshing absence of his pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — through which Americans are led to identify with the people in Washington to whom they’re really just tax aphids and cannon fodder.

    Some of “Pat’s” fans here have told me over the years that Mr. Buchanan doesn’t have the time to engage the Unz Review commentariat. However, he just may read us…

    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
    , @TomSchmidt
  4. Pat, you’re only going to confuse us poor proles by giving us proper perspective. Just do like the proper MSM and tell us who to hate this week.

  5. Here is an article that looks at a fascinating part of U.S. history when they publicly meddled in a Russian election:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/07/the-unintended-consequences-of-american.html

    This is yet another fine example of an unintended consequence of Washington’s geopolitical meddling.

    • Replies: @RMM
  6. @anonymous

    Good observations.

    One quibble with Pat’s assessment: When Reagan took office in January 1981, the Soviet stranglehold on the Warsaw Pact countries was already loosening because of forces beyond the control of the Kremlin. To wit:

    1. The Politburo was unable to prevent the Polish government from permitting Pope John Paul II’s visit to Poland in June of 1979.

    2. Solidarity had already emerged and, along with widespread strikes throughout the country, the Polish communist regime under Edward Giriek was forced to enter into the Gdansk Agreement notwithstanding the pressure coming from the likes of Yuri Andropov, Andrei Gromyko, and Dmitri Ustinov. Brezhnev, of course, by that time, was a doddering fool.

    3. Although the Kremlin threatened to forcefully intervene in the late autumn of 1980, President Carter, in an early December, 1980 cable, told Brezhnev there would be trouble if the Soviets repeated Prague. The Russians backed down as they knew they were not in a position to just walk in like they had in 1968.

    Pat is not only susceptible to the Reagan won the cold war narrative, but that Ronnie did so just in the nick of time and in spite of all of the Carter administration’s fecklessness.

    • Replies: @Felix Keverich
  7. @anonymous

    And there’s even a refreshing absence of his pronoun propaganda — “we, us, our” — through which Americans are led to identify with the people in Washington to whom they’re really just tax aphids and cannon fodder.

    Tax aphids and cannon fodder is a great phrase. I’ll likely borrow it.

  8. Jon0815 says:

    Its economy has shrunk to the size of Italy’s.

    The USSR’s GDP was smaller than Italy’s.

    World Bank GDP estimates for 1990:

    #5 Italy: $1.178 trillion
    #6 United Kingdom: $1.093 trillion
    #7 Soviet Union: $686 billion (Russia $517 billion)

    But adjusted for Purchasing Power Parity, the USSR’s GDP was on par with Germany, and the same is true of Russia today.

  9. When the flagship of Russia’s navy, the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, sailed from Murmansk to Syria, it had to pass through the North Sea, the Channel, the east Atlantic, the Straits of Gibraltar, and then sail the length of the Med to anchor off Latakia.

    Coming and going, the Kuznetsov was within range of anti-ship missiles, aircraft, submarines and surface ships of 20 NATO nations, among them Norway, Britain, Germany, France, Spain and Portugal, and many U.S. bases and warships.

    Absolutely irrelevant example since aircraft carriers are not viewed in any way as a main tool of Russia’s maritime and naval policy and neither Soviet nor Russia’s Navy ever were or will be a carrier-centric force. Russia does NOT base her geopolitical views on Power Projection and Russia’s military doctrine reflects this perfectly. With all my deepest respect to Pat–but Kuznetsov is viewed merely as a training ship to preserve a rudimentary expertise in carrier aviation just in case.

    It has one-tenth the population and one-fifth the economy of its looming neighbor, China, and, except for territory, is even more dwarfed by the United States with a GDP of $20 trillion, and troops, bases and allies all over the world.

    US GDP is NOT 20 trillion dollars. Not even close–vast “sums” of this GDP are nothing more than creative bookkeeping and abstract monetized data. IIRC, Netherlands included prostitution into calculations of their GDP. American de-industrialization is catastrophic, despite preservation of some of crucial sectors of expertise such as aerospace, computers and few others, the rest–is paper-pushing within service based economy. That is the main reason Trump was elected–jobs. I omit here US military basing which was unsustainable as early as 1980s (hence major closures), this is not to speak of the fact that such a spread subtracts rather than adds to American strategic stability by violating the main fundamental principle of concentration of force.

    • Replies: @Realist
  10. Buchanan’s heart is in the right place but like a lot of conservatives, he’s been duped into parroting CIA propaganda as an article of faith. Ol’ Pat can’t convince you Hiss and White were spies. He’s got no probative evidence. He doesn’t care. He’s writing for an audience of people who just nod and look dumb. He repeats all the same unsupported anonymous-source crap that Dem idiots repeat today, except about old-time commie spies.

  11. Rurik says:

    It has one-tenth the population and one-fifth the economy of its looming neighbor, China,

    Russia is our natural ally. China is our natural rival.

    The only reason we’re menacing Russia and coddling China is due to the corruption of our institutions by forces that are hostile both to Russia and the West.

    Corporations, Zionists, Asian nationalism, Asian communism, Asian financial interests, and of course the ((central banking cabal)) of the FED/ECB glob.

    Were it not for the latter, Russia and the West would be cooperating and helping the world to prosper.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  12. Russia is in the boat she is in because of Putin and his criminal regime’s cronies. Ukraine and Georgia are hostile because Putin invaded them. One can include Moldova, but because of Yeltsin sending troops to Transniestria. Putin, however, has maintained them there.

    Russia is something of a pariah because Putin can’t be content with Russia, he has to try to restore the Tsar’s empire. Anyone “working” with Russia as long as her troops are in her neighbor’s territory, is a fool and is aiding Putin’s criminality.

    • Replies: @hunor
    , @Realist
    , @tyrone
  13. hunor says:
    @Quartermaster

    You are hopelessly gone ! Quartermaster?

  14. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rurik

    You are right, and time is of the essence for us to ally with Russia. Our enemies aren’t waiting. Unfortunately, a whole tribe of them control the levers of power in the USA.

    This essay is one of Patrick Buchanan’s strongest, and that is to say it’s very strong indeed. But who will read it, much less heed it?

  15. Realist says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    Russia does NOT base her geopolitical views on Power Projection and Russia’s military doctrine reflects this perfectly.

    But the US sure as hell does….balls out hegemony.

  16. Realist says:
    @Quartermaster

    Anyone “working” with Russia as long as her troops are in her neighbor’s territory, is a fool and is aiding Putin’s criminality.

    As opposed to the US whose troops are in everybody’s territory.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  17. Jason Liu says:

    Russia doesn’t pressure or subvert countries into accepting democracy, multiculturalism, equalism, liberalism, feminism, etc so on that front it’s actually a force for good.

    Is it an evil empire in the traditional conquer-your-neighbors sense? Only a tiny bit, nothing to get worked up about.

  18. Jason Liu says:
    @Rurik

    The rise of Asia is the world’s best chance at rolling back degenerate western values. The future of geopolitical conflict is going to be nationalist societies vs liberal ones.

    Pitting western nationalists vs non-western nationalists means globalism wins in the end.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Rurik
  19. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:

    Buchanan praises Russian patience , rise and rebirth, condemns American vilifying and undermining but never touches the racial angle that drives him to do it. Russia and America have befitted from UN veto power enjoying memberships . It is time to get rid of this institute or at least disband this particular format WHERE SOME 4 WHITE COUNTRIES COME TO TELL THE WORLD THAT THEIR INTEREST superseded the democratic principles .

    Russia has befitted immensely from abandoning its role on Iraq Iran Libya , Honduras, Valenzuela.
    Now American sanctions and bad behaviors are hurting it . That is called comeuppance.

  20. RMM says:
    @Sally Snyder

    Thanks for the link. Very interesting reminder of US meddling – real meddling, this time, a criminal process with criminal consequences.
    As Putin says, the Americans don’t just meddle: “They walk all over us, rough shod, sit on our heads, and chew gum…” http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54667

  21. Rurik says:
    @Jason Liu

    rolling back degenerate western values.

    they’re not Western values,

    they’re (((western))) values.

    Two mutually exclusive things.

    The West values things like honor and blood, heritage and sublime culture. Think baroque architecture, renaissance thought, Tesla (the man), Ford (the man) Disney (the man), Norman Rockwell’s paintings were the quintessential expression of the West as it manifested in Americana.

    Today these expressions of beauty and refined culture are spat upon by the glob. (((Globohomoism)))

    Asia isn’t going to reverse any of that, they’re going to feed on the carcass of the West, as will everyone else, which is what they’re doing now in Europe, feeding off the dying (murdered) carcass of a once great civilization.

    I have no animosity towards Asia or the East. I wish them all well. I’d like to see trade and tourism and mutual good will.

    But as long as the West is being killed by a parasite (crony-corporate greed, corruption, Zionism, nihilism, worship of mediocrity, ect…) then Asia will take up its place in the vacuum caused as the West slowly commits suicide.

    • Agree: Bill jones
  22. Franz says:

    @ Andrei Martyanov –

    American de-industrialization is catastrophic…That is the main reason Trump was elected–jobs.

    You are right and Republicans absolutely cannot grasp this point. That’s not an opinion, I can prove it. Using Pat Buchanan no less.

    The greatest moment in “Pat’s” life was winning the New Hampshire in the 90s. He was “standing his ground” against what by then were monthly Trade Deals that were destroying the core of the nation.

    Since I was in industry, I was selected by our group to send him “Congratulations” and a $5 campaign donation to see if he was for real.

    Short answer: He wasn’t. A few months later a form letter came back from Bay Buchanan, a family member and the brains behind his presidential aspirations. She wrote: “The first act of the Buchanan presidency will be an Executive Order banning abortion…”

    I tossed it right there and never took Buchanan seriously again. He couldn’t even stick to his own point.

    Republicans and Marxists use Free Trade to destroy nations, but at least Marxists remember the fact.

  23. @Liberty Mike

    Although the Kremlin threatened to forcefully intervene in the late autumn of 1980, President Carter, in an early December, 1980 cable, told Brezhnev there would be trouble if the Soviets repeated Prague. The Russians backed down

    That same Brezhnev sent Soviet troops to Afghanistan 1 year earlier, so what exactly Brezhnev was afraid about? My understanding is that Poles made some urgent moves to accomodate USSR, this is why no intervention happened, but the notion that the Superpower “backed down” under pressure from Jimmy Carter (LOL) and Polish Solidarity movement seems ridiculous to me, even more ridiculous than the idea that it was Reagan’s “muscular” foreign policy that won the Cold war for the US.

    they knew they were not in a position to just walk in like they had in 1968.

    They totally fucking could. :)

  24. But they didn’t, did they?

    Are you overlooking the fact that the Kremlin bad boys were quite aware of the distinct possibility that Polish troops would shoot back at the East German and Soviet aggressors?

    Are you overlooking the deep rooted hatred the Poles had for the Russians?

    Are you overlooking the fact that the Soviet leaders knew that their economy was fading, and fading fast?

    Are you overlooking the fact that the Soviet leaders already knew that their Afghanistan gambit was backfiring and that the mujahedeen was giving them a bloody nose?

  25. @Franz

    Since I was in industry, I was selected by our group to send him “Congratulations” and a $5 campaign donation to see if he was for real.

    Short answer: He wasn’t. A few months later a form letter came back from Bay Buchanan, a family member and the brains behind his presidential aspirations. She wrote: “The first act of the Buchanan presidency will be an Executive Order banning abortion…”

    Sorry to hear that. I can understand how disheartening this could be.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  26. APilgrim says:

    Russia is a christian republic.

    Vladimir Putin is a christian republican.

    His actions in the (Georgia & Crimean Civil) Wars, were exemplary & humanitarian in nature.

    • Replies: @Josep
  27. APilgrim says:

    Vladimir Putin is, by default, the de facto leader of Christendom.

    The Communist Bishop of Rome is NOT in the running.

    There are, at present, no other contenders.

    • Replies: @Josep
  28. So much fact-based horse sense compared to the mindless bluster and blather we get from the mainstream media and political,leaders, across the political spectrum,

  29. @Franz

    This biggest indicator that Buchanan was not a genuine presidential aspirant was he quietly leg them steal the Arizona primary from him for Steve Forbes, of all people. He has been content to play the pundit like Ron Paul http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120314.htm while puppets for Israel and the war profiteers rule us.

  30. tyrone says:
    @Quartermaster

    Dude ,are you trying to get George Will’s old job , you’re going to have to mind your manners now.

  31. @Andrei Martyanov

    Товарищ Мартьянов, теперь я не могу заснуть, поэтому я слушаю музыку в Интернете, в том числе советские песни, и когда YouTube рекомендует «Марш Энтузиастов», который если я помню правильно вы упомянули в вашей книге как пример культурного продвижения промышленности. Эта песня я уже знал хорошо, очень красивая, мощная и вдохновляющая, такое исключительное художественное произведение. Теперь я хочу улучшить свой русский, я читаю по-русски онлайн иногда, но если я хочу писать как я сделаю теперь мне часто нужно искать слова. И теперь я иску с Yandex Translate когда прежде я прежде чем я использовал Google Translate.

    Также я создал свой список советских песен: https://gmachine1729.com/lists-and-statistics/советские-песни/

    Also I am aware that I probably have some grammatical errors here, and too bad Unz Review doesn’t support edits yet.

    Вы можете написать мне по адресу gmachine at gmachine1729.com.

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  32. @gmachine1729

    «Марш Энтузиастов», который если я помню правильно вы упомянули в вашей книге как пример культурного продвижения промышленности. Эта песня я уже знал хорошо, очень красивая, мощная и вдохновляющая, такое исключительное художественное произведение.

    The movie was (is) still a wonderful piece of work and is idiosyncratic in the extreme since encapsulated Russia’s modernization perfectly. Obviously, such a movie is not “good” or “healthy” for Western Russian “studies” field and, of course, was labeled as Stalin’s propaganda, while in reality it is a good representation of social trajectory for tens of millions Soviet people in 1930-1960s. In the West, however, The Shining Path title was substituted with Tanya.

    P.S. Your Russian is good enough.

  33. I remember in 9th grade English class, two books we read were One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich by Solzhenitsyn and Anthem by Ayn Rand. The former I’m sure you know. The latter was about how in a “communist” society, a smart, ambitious person gets assigned by the state into the role of Street Sweeper instead of Scholar and rebels against it. We were taught that communism doesn’t work because everybody is treated the same regardless of their talent or contribution. How patently ridiculous that is.

    I never really learned of Maxim Gorky until final year of college on my own, and I had the pleasure of reading his «Мать» in English translation. I also read the Chinese translation of «Как закалялась сталь», learning of it through my Chinese background I guess.

    Just goes to show how censored America really is. The literary works on Soviet Union/Russia they teach in schools and in the media has gone through an aggressive ideological filter. There is also Doctor Zhivago, I read the book and watched the movie. And there was essentially a CIA backed campaign to promote it, which won for its author a Nobel in literature. This has, of course, done tremendous damage to the reputation of Russia internationally. Good luck trying to counter the cultural power of the West with your book(s).

  34. @gmachine1729

    There is also Doctor Zhivago, I read the book and watched the movie. And there was essentially a CIA backed campaign to promote it, which won for its author a Nobel in literature

    You may read some “revelations” on that, I believe in Paul Pillar’s, formerly of CIA and currently of The National Interest tabloid, where he is published constantly, article. Same goes for Solzhenitsyn. Ayn Rand is a joke as a “thinker” but she surely influenced Neal Pirt (not in drumming–in lyrics writing) of Rush and a lot of libertarian youngsters. Per real history of Russia I may only quote Margarita Simonyan on that, she expressed it best of them all after Putin’s elections:

    Essentially, the West should be horrified not because 76% of Russians voted for Putin, but because this elections have demonstrated that 95% of Russia’s population supports conservative-patriotic, communist and nationalist ideas. That means that liberal ideas are barely surviving among measly 5% of population.
    And that’s your fault, my Western friends. It was you who pushed us into “Russians never surrender” mode. I’ve been telling you for a long time to find normal advisers on Russia. Sack all those parasites. With their short-sighted sanctions, heartless humiliation of our athletes (including athletes with disabilities ), with their “skripals” and ostentatious disregard of the most basic liberal values, like a presumption of innocence, that they manage to hypocritically combined with forcible imposition of ultra-liberal ideas in their own countries, their epileptic mass hysteria, causing in a healthy person a sigh of relief that he lives in Russia, and not in Hollywood, with their post-electoral mess in the United States, in Germany, and in the Brexit-zone; with their attacks on RT, which they cannot forgive for taking advantage of the freedom of speech and showing to the world how to use it, and it turned out that the freedom of speech never was intended to be used for good, but was invented as an object of beauty, like some sort of crystal mop that shines from afar, but is not suitable to clean your stables, with all your injustice and cruelty, inquisitorial hypocrisy and lies you forced us to stop respecting you. You and your so called “values.”
    We don’t want to live like you live, anymore. For fifty years, secretly and openly, we wanted to live like you, but not any longer. We have no more respect for you, and for those amongst us that you support, and for all those people who support you. That’s how this 5% came to be.
    For that you only have yourself to blame. And also your Western politicians and analysts, newsmakers and scouts. Our people are capable to forgive a lot. But we don’t forgive arrogance, and no normal nation would. Your only remaining Empire would be wise to learn history of its allies, all of them are former empires. To learn the ways they lost their empires. Only because of their arrogance. White man’s burden, my ass.
    But the only Empire, you have left, ignores history, it doesn’t teach it and refuses to learn it, meaning that it all will end the way it always does, in such cases.
    In meantime, you’ve pushed us to rally around your enemy. Immediately, after you declared him an enemy, we united around him. Before, he was just our President, who could be reelected. Now, he has become our Leader. We won’t let you change this. And it was you, who created this situation.
    It was you who imposed an opposition between patriotism and liberalism. Although, they shouldn’t be mutually exclusive notions. This false dilemma, created by you, made us to chose patriotism. Even though, many of us are really liberals, myself included. Get cleaned up, now. You don’t have much time left.

    West in general, and US in particular, do not know Russia’s history–it is inevitable in a society where Political “Science” Ph.Ds are writing military doctrines. I never heard about auto-mechanic-gynecologist occupation, but evidently, marriage of utterly incompetent and unqualified people and of mechanism of power and decision making is a new normal in the US.

    • Replies: @gmachine1729
  35. @Andrei Martyanov

    I’ve also lost hope in the US elites almost entirely and regard US political values are more or less complete bullshit, despite my having been here from first grade on. I chose half-secretly not to fully Americanize (if by that, one means not learn about your heritage), and it wasn’t always easy, but I have faith that in the long run, it will be worthwhile. I am realistic and I don’t want to risk being stuck in America as a second-class citizen, which would passed on my kids as well. Speaking of which, why did you come here? Why not go back? Yes, it can be very hard once you’ve settled in America for a while, psychologically. You feel like much of your prior effort would end up wasted.

    Margarita Simonyan is 100% correct. Thanks for telling me about her. I don’t think the US will change though. Don’t bet on it at all. The US elites are rotten at the core. Plus too many nice, well-meaning, but very naive Americans who allow those people to get away with what they do.

    It’s difficult to deal with the powerful who will do whatever they can to preserve their privilege when you’re actually reasonable by default. Your initial belief is often that if you do well, you’ll be accepted as one of them, or at the very least, they will genuinely respect you. We all know how not true that is. The elite Anglos will do anything they can to weaken those who challenge their power internationally. They are that cutthroat and nasty. They will let the world burn to stay in power.

    What can you do? Fight back for real. Fight fire with fire. Not only be as good as you can yourself, but do whatever you can to weaken America’s position. If you don’t do that, you’re playing a game on handicap, when you’re already severely disadvantaged in natural resources, cultural power, and overall level of development. Stalin compensated for that by essentially forcing people in the Soviet Union to optimize single-mindedly for the collective good in their individual actions, and it still wasn’t enough.

    As for cultural projection, it’s very hard when the other side has already won most of the world. All one can do is focus your limited resources on areas where you still have a chance. It was smart for the Soviet Union to concentrate on the colonized, third-world countries for instance. Also, brute force works. What happened before was of course that the Anglos conquered and those colonized eventually accepted, to the point of becoming eager lackeys for their colonial masters. That’s what rulers do; they use others do their dirty work. Colonial “dogs” are often more vicious on the surface than their bosses are.

    I had written the following regarding the Chinese, and I find the Russians to be somewhat similar:

    You can probably tell that I want Chinese to obtain more position of power internationally. It would make a better world. By default Chinese have less sense of entitlement which also hinders their rise to the top. I used to single-mindedly revere the top STEM people. Now I realize that not only should you be strong technically but you should also have the political awareness of what your technical strength is going into. Who is reaping the fruits of your labor. A guy I know told me he got promoted, with the help of someone higher up, after he sort of went on strike and only then did management realize how much he was needed. See this is leverage. There are a lot of eager earnest people churning out a ton of value for the company without demanding more and executives love that. Their existence lowers the leverage of the value creators. I’m thinking of what could possibly give Chinese-Americans more leverage. Little, as they’re for the most part unwelcome in positions of power in the US. Again many Chinese have false hopes of meritocracy. Yes, it’s meritocratic up to a certain point, but in terms of actual political power it’s far from it. The Chinese who do get promoted in the media and politically by the mainstream American establishment tend to be those who are against collective Chinese interests. Why do you think the successful Chinese entrepreneurs in America have a hardware focus. Because those require real expertise with high barrier to entry.

    The struggle for socioeconomic position of Chinese-Americans I expect to be largely futile. It’s already very saturated at this point. Way more technically smart and well-trained Chinese than the system can tolerate. There are some rich Chinese who hit it big with entrepreneurship but they generally have far less political power than a white guy with the same net worth due to relative lack of elite networks. Those rich Chinese from China in the states have little actual power; all they can really do is make a dent on the real estate market, and fund some pro-Chinese activities there, though with that, there will only be increasing scrutiny. If Chinese are to gain massively, it would have to be based from what comes out of China. Basically become like the Jews. Develop a reputation of fuck with us too much and there will be consequences. To do so, China would have to play the extortion game very aggressively too. What leverage does China have now? For one, large market. This is why airlines have to accept demands to list Taiwan as part of China; if they don’t they lose a ton of business. What else? Potentially encourage the Chinese with hard to acquire expertise in critical STEM fields to stop working for American companies, go to China instead. Take it to the very extreme, if China/Chinese want to be truly feared on the international stage, they can once they’re adequately prepared to guarantee victory encourage North Korea to invade again as Stalin did in 1950 with a serious pledge to back them up, use anti-ship/anti-aircraft missiles to prevent Americans in Seoul from escaping, then America will negotiate with China to save members of their own political elite. China could demand complete withdrawal of US forces from the Korean Peninsula as a condition. Now, anti-ship/anti-aircraft missiles would make it not that hard to enforce blockades near one’s borders; the era of American military dominance by air is over. China is already in the process of deploying the state of the art S-400 it got from Russia to cover most of Taiwan and has already deployed its own, less advanced but still formidable, air defense system on the South China Sea islands, enough to render US fighter jets practically useless in the region.

    How do you get an edge over a competitor? You can by improving yourself, making your product more competitive, that’s the good way. Like it or not, you can often do equally or more by directly sabotaging the competitor in a way you can get away with. The success of Microsoft, and many big businesses, had arguably much more to do with the latter. In the case of geopolitical influence, militarily evicting the enemy is necessary. It doesn’t have to turn violent, and ideally, it shouldn’t; all one needs is enough military power for the other side to give in on the negotiating table.

    I sometimes even do think that the US elite needs to actually be eliminated, by that I mean like imprisoned or killed, for the world’s sanity. Everybody else is being too nice and letting them get away with shit. America is so good at scaring people with threats of economic sanction and extortion, and also guilt trapping them with propaganda and political correctness. They expect loyalty without equality. Many if not most just give in. It’s like dude, you literally have no stake in America; you’re a second class citizen who’s just being used by people who don’t give a damn about you. Yes, there are lower class people in every country, but at least in ethnically homogeneous countries, there is somewhat of a spirit of self-sacrifice for the good of the group that one actually feels some belonging to by virtue of blood and culture. There is almost none of that in America. There is also that people don’t feel that indignant when they lose because they are objectively less competent or talented; they feel more slighted when they are rewarded, recognized, and respected less than someone who is visibly worse than them. People of our backgrounds shouldn’t just accept this mistreatment. Actually organize in some way to fight back. I’m now trying to encourage smart Chinese from China to go back. Stop contributing so much to America’s economy; you won’t be rewarded fairly for it, and your kids won’t get a fair shake either. It’s harder for me, since I’m not Chinese Chinese, there would be more career risk. I guess I can try to switch to a Chinese tech company and go back via that.

    Again, I’ve lost all faith with the American system now. It’s like what, you’re asking me to subscribe to your grossly falsified history AND contribute technically to your economy while getting a mere six-figure salary in return? No way. I’d rather that smart people like me do nothing than become a busy drone advancing science and technology for thankless US elites. Honestly, if the Russian or Chinese government paid its people to troll the internet instead of working for America, that would actually do substantial damage to America’s competitive position. There would also be less resentment from American Americans against smart immigrants for taking their jobs. ;)

    For more on this, see https://gmachine1729.com/2018/06/14/on-russia-and-russians/ and https://gmachine1729.com/2018/07/25/ron-unz-is-also-a-prc-government-apologist-maybe-because-america-really-is-being-completely-unreasonable/.

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  36. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    “Russia is our natural ally. China is our natural rival.”

    Actually, Russia is a historic political rival, and China is our current trade rival.

    “The only reason we’re menacing Russia and coddling China is due to the corruption of our institutions by forces that are hostile both to Russia and the West.”

    There is no menacing of Russia, as it appears it has been coddling the current administration.

  37. Josep says:
    @APilgrim

    Russia is a christian republic.

    I’m not sure about that. Last time I checked, the consumption of alcohol and tobacco and the rate of suicide are higher in Russia than those of the (post-Christian) USA. What I also found disturbing is how characters in some Russian TV shows (even kids’ shows such as Smeshariki) sometimes take the Lord’s name in vain. Not sure if any of this has any bearing.
    Side note: I’ve been hearing rumors of Putin critics “disappearing” (read: losing their jobs, getting arrested, etc.) for criticizing Putin. I’d be grateful if anyone would verify or debunk them.

  38. Josep says:
    @APilgrim

    There are, at present, no other contenders.

    The only other country I can think of with a large Christian population (be it Protestant, Catholic or Orthodox) is Poland. Abortion is actually illegal there, unlike in Russia.
    Unfortunately, Poland’s status as a bastion of religious belief in a sea of post-Christian states might be compromised, since not only is Poland in both NATO and the EU, but the “Communist Bishop of Rome” might also have deleterious effects on Catholicism and its moral codes.

  39. athEIst says:

    With the breakup of the USSR, Russia has been reduced to two-thirds of the territory and half the population of the Soviet Union.

    The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk

  40. @gmachine1729

    Anthem sounds a bit like in the US at the fast food drive thru at McDonalds where the person on the intercom taking the orders is a new migrant and barely speaks English whilst the guy with two degrees, one in English, is out back in the kitchen flipping burgers.

  41. Miro23 says:
    @gmachine1729

    Yes, there are lower class people in every country, but at least in ethnically homogeneous countries, there is somewhat of a spirit of self-sacrifice for the good of the group that one actually feels some belonging to by virtue of blood and culture. There is almost none of that in America.

    With a dominant majority ethnicity and culture plus a serious requirement for minority integration it can work. but as you say, there is none of this in “multicultural” America. It would challenge Jewish power.

    But equally, Chinese Americans shouldn’t complain too much.

    They’re skilled but somewhat excluded – however in S.E.Asia they have a Jewish style arm lock on native politics and commerce, and they’re just as corrupt and exploitative when they get the chance.
    Useful source: Joe Studwell’s “Asian Godfathers”. https://www.amazon.com/Asian-Godfathers-Money-Power-Southeast/dp/0802143911

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  42. @Miro23

    They’re skilled but somewhat excluded – however in S.E.Asia they have a Jewish style arm lock on native politics and commerce, and they’re just as corrupt and exploitative when they get the chance.

    Yes, I was appalled when I first saw https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/amy-chua-philippines-chinese-minority-free-market-democracy-ethnic-hatred. Chua’s aunt certainly wasn’t very wise; by acting that way, she was basically asking for trouble in the long run. Maybe the same thing will happen to Israel and Jews, who are behaving similarly.

    From the way Chua depicted the situation with the tone of what one could characterize as “a Chinese Nazi”, it’s clear there that Chinese unapologetically see SE Asians as untermenschen. Also worth noting is that she’s able to publish this shit without difficulty due to her being a Yale law professor and more indirectly, with the help of her Jewish husband.

    Fortunately for the Chinese, nobody in the West really gives a damn about SE Asians. They’re pretty much invisible. This contrasts starkly with the Tibetans and, to a lesser extent, the Uyghurs, who Westerners like to bitch about.

  43. Miro23 says:

    From the way Chua depicted the situation with the tone of what one could characterize as “a Chinese Nazi”, it’s clear there that Chinese unapologetically see SE Asians as untermenschen. Also worth noting is that she’s able to publish this shit without difficulty due to her being a Yale law professor and more indirectly, with the help of her Jewish husband.

    Thieves do like the “untermenschen” concept – it helps dehumanize their targets.

    For example, years ago, I worked for a Lebanese Jew who specialized in stealing (fraud) from the old and sick. He would always celebrate his latest “coup” with rounds of drinks, where he happily contrasted the stupidity of his victims vs. his own talent for deception.

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