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“Stop the ENDLESS WARS!” implored President Donald Trump in a Sunday night tweet.

Well, if he is serious, Trump had best keep an eye on his national security adviser, for a U.S. war on Iran would be a dream come true for John Bolton.

Last September, when Shiite militants launched three mortar shells into the Green Zone in Baghdad, which exploded harmlessly in a vacant lot, Bolton called a series of emergency meetings and directed the Pentagon to prepare a menu of targets, inside Iran, for U.S. air and missile strikes in retaliation.

The Wall Street Journal quoted one U.S. official as saying Bolton’s behavior “rattled people. … People were shocked. It was mind-boggling how cavalier they were about hitting Iran.”

Bolton’s former deputy, Mira Ricardel, reportedly told a gathering the shelling into the Green Zone was “an act of war” to which the U.S. must respond decisively.

Bolton has long believed a U.S. confrontation with Iran is both inevitable and desirable. In 2015, he authored a New York Times op-ed whose title, “To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran,” said it all. He has urged that “regime change” in Iran be made a declared goal of U.S. foreign policy.

When Trump announced his decision to withdraw the 2,000 U.S. troops now in Syria, Bolton swiftly imposed conditions: ISIS must first be eliminated, Iranian forces and allied militias must leave, and the Kurds must be protected.

Yet enforcing such red lines would require a permanent presence of American troops. For how, without war, would we effect the removal of Bashar Assad’s Iranian allies, if he declines to expel them and the Iranians refuse to go?

Bolton has an ally in Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. In Cairo last week, Pompeo declared it U.S. policy “to expel every last Iranian boot” from Syria.

And though Hezbollah has been a “major presence” in Lebanon for several decades, “we won’t accept this as the status quo,” said Pompeo, for Hezbollah is a “wholly owned subsidiary of the Iranian regime.”

But how does the secretary of state propose to push Hezbollah out of Lebanon peacefully when the Israelis could not do it in a month-long war in 2006?

Pompeo’s purpose during his tour of the Middle East? Build a new Middle East Strategic Alliance, a MESA, an Arab NATO, whose members are to be Egypt, Jordan and the nations of the Gulf Cooperation Council.

There are other signs a confrontation is coming soon. The U.S. has objected to Iran’s pending launch of two space satellites, saying these look like tests of missiles designed to deliver nuclear warheads. Yet Iran has never produced weapons-grade uranium or plutonium and never tested an ICBM.

Pompeo has also called for a conclave in Poland in February to bring together an anti-Iran alliance to discuss what is to be done about what he calls “our common enemy.”

ORDER IT NOW

Over the weekend, Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu boasted of Israel’s latest strike in Syria: “Just in the last 36 hours, the air force attacked Iranian warehouses with Iranian weapons at the international airport in Damascus. The accumulation of recent attacks proves that we are determined more than ever to take action against Iran in Syria, just as we promised.”

Israel brags that it has hit 200 targets inside Syria in recent years. The boasting may be connected to Bibi’s desire to strengthen his credentials as a security hawk for the coming Israeli election. But it is also a provocation to the Iranians and Syrians to retaliate, which could ignite a wider war between Israel and Syrian and Iranian forces.

What does the U.S. think of the Israeli strikes? Said Pompeo: “We strongly support Israel’s efforts to stop Iran from turning Syria into the next Lebanon.”

In short, forces are moving in this country and in Israel to bring about a U.S. confrontation with Iran — before our troops leave Syria.

But the real questions here are not about Bolton or Pompeo.

They are about Trump. Was he aware of Bolton’s request for a menu of targets in Iran for potential U.S. strikes? Did he authorize it? Has he authorized his national security adviser and secretary of state to engage in these hostile actions and bellicose rhetoric aimed at Iran? And if so, why?

While Trump has urged that the U.S. pull out of these Mideast wars, Pompeo has corrected him, “When America retreats, chaos often follows.”

Is Trump looking for a showdown with Iran, which could result in a war that might vault his approval rating, but be a disaster for the Middle East and world economy and do for him what Operation Iraqi Freedom did for George W. Bush?

One thing may confidently be said of the rhetoric and actions of Bolton and Pompeo: This is not what brought out the new populists who made Donald Trump president, the people who still share his desire to “stop the endless wars.”

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  1. Mr. Anon says:

    Pompeo’s purpose during his tour of the Middle East? Build a new Middle East Strategic Alliance, a MESA, an Arab NATO, whose members are to be Egypt, Jordan and the nations of the Gulf Cooperation Council.

    Why wouldn’t this Middle Eastern Security Alliance include Israel? They are – so we are always told – our best ally. Why should it be exclusively an “Arab NATO”?

  2. Rurik says:

    Pompeo’s purpose during his tour of the Middle East? Build a new Middle East Strategic Alliance, a MESA, an Arab NATO, whose members are to be Egypt, Jordan and the nations of the Gulf Cooperation Council.

    sounds like the Strategic Alliance is already frayed..

    https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/article/jordan-demands-israel-withdraw-from-occupied-golan-heights-after-pompeo-visit/

  3. renfro says:

    “When America retreats, chaos often follows.”

    The correct statement would be…”The US follows the Israeli’s chaos.”

    • Replies: @Wally
  4. peterAUS says:

    Is Trump looking for a showdown with Iran, which could result in a war that might vault his approval rating..

    Yes.

    …. but be a disaster for the Middle East

    Oh yes….

    and world economy

    Yeah………sure…

    … and do for him what Operation Iraqi Freedom did for George W. Bush?

    Hahaha….let’s summarize:
    War with Iraq 2003->Reelection 2004->Presidential retirement after second term, from 2009 to now.

    What EXACTLY is not to like there?

  5. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    A war with Iran will not vault Trump’s rating, it’ll decimate it.

    He will go down in infamy for going against his explicit campaign promise. Aside from a few diehard fanboys from Appalachia, most of Trump’s base have left him. We voted for someone who promised to end the endless wars and the endless immigration. So far he’s done nothing on either front, except empty promises of a pullout in Syria and Afghanistan, no wall, and promises of more legal immigration, which is simply appalling.

    Someone like Kris Kobach needs to primary this piece of lying turd out of the WH in 2020.

    • Replies: @Liberty Mike
  6. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Until Trump fires Pompeo and Bolton, none of his foreign policy proclamations are to be taken seriously. He has zero control over these two treasonous rats.

    • Agree: RVBlake, Colin Wright
    • Replies: @RVBlake
  7. I will seriously entertain the argument that Trump has been constrained in some of his policy choices by the Mueller investigation and other Deep State machinations. But putting people such as Bolton, Pompeo and Haley into positions of foreign policy responsibility seems to me to be totally unforced major errors.

    • Replies: @dvorak
    , @Corvinus
  8. anarchyst says:

    There are forty or so congresscritters and thousands of high-level policy wonks in the State Department who hold “dual citizenship” with Israel. They are infesting (infecting?) our government and are directing our “foreign policy” to make decisions that are “good for Israel” and detrimental to these United States of America.
    In fact, there are sons and daughters of these congresscritters and policy wonks who have bypassed American military service in order to join the IDF (Israel Defense Forces).
    If I had my way, I would revoke their American citizenship and deport them immediately.

  9. “Well, if he is serious, Trump had best keep an eye on his national security adviser, for a U.S. war on Iran would be a dream come true for John Bolton.”

    Seriously Pat? Obviously, Bolton and Pompeo are nothing but stage props. Anything that the orange clown administration does or fails to do is orange clown’s fault. Period. The end.

    • Replies: @Anastasia
  10. When 3 mortars land in a vacant lot inside the Green Zone, am I the only one thinking Bolton’s learned how to play the Israeli false flag war game?

  11. Realist says:

    Is Bolton Steering Trump Into War with Iran?

    You have to ask yourself why would Trump hire this dumb bastard???

    • Replies: @JC
  12. swamped says:

    The president has had to overrule his hirelings before and likely will do so again. Bolton and Pompeo and Graham (and formerly Haley) and others have their own neo-con agenda but their leashes are only so long. Despite their bellicose intent, their ‘corrections’ can be corrected by the Corrector-in-Chief. The president’s instincts, his most reliable guide, still seems inclined to “stop the endless wars”; no matter how Bolton and Pompeo bluster on. Let us hope so.

  13. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Why do so many of you intelligent people still buy into the political puppet show, expecting BigGov to fix itself?

    There are other columnists here at Unz who have been calling the Beltway BS for years. For example:

    “In 2008, Obama was touted as a political outsider who will hose away all of the rot and bloody criminality of the Bush years. He turned out to be a deft move by our ruling class. Though fools still refuse to see it, Obama is a perfect servant of our military banking complex. Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.

    A Trump presidency will temporarily appease restless, lower class whites, while serving as a magnet for liberal anger. This will buy our ruling class time as they continue to wage war abroad while impoverishing Americans back home. Like Obama, Trump won’t fulfill any of his election promises, and this, too, will be blamed on bipartisan politics.”

    Linh Dinh, June 12, 2016

    • Agree: Per/Norway
    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  14. They are about Trump. Was he aware of Bolton’s request for a menu of targets in Iran for potential U.S. strikes? Did he authorize it? Has he authorized his national security adviser and secretary of state to engage in these hostile actions and bellicose rhetoric aimed at Iran? And if so, why?

    Trump is a patriotic (whatever that means) real estate developer and TV personality with zero practical skills in statecraft and, especially so, in military and geopolitical matters. Not that Pompeo or Bolton are better but, at least, they have “ideology” and are in pockets of Israeli lobby.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  15. dvorak says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    But putting people such as Bolton, Pompeo and Haley into positions of foreign policy responsibility seems to me to be totally unforced major errors.

    What evidence is there that Trump has the power to put an antiwar hero in any of those positions?

    Better a lunatic neocon who creeps out the NYT / CIA / Pentagon than a suave neolib who favors all of the same endless wars. Better to have a handful of neocons on the inside pissing out.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @follyofwar
  16. “Now, Trump is being trumpeted as another political outsider.”

    Just to add some detail here:

    In running non-career-politician orange clown against career-politician clinton (who wore her treachery on her sleeve), our “masters” were *very, very* (TM) smart. It was at least plausible that orange clown, as dishonest and generally morally incompetent as he may or may not have been (who’s perfect?), would not be willing to destroy what was left of “America” (along with himself, his assets, his family etc.) by pursuing the same hopeless and utterly self-destructive “foreign policy” agenda of his predecessors.

    IOW it seemed reasonable under the circumstances to take a chance that he was not evil to the point of demon-possession, but that had at least some kind of sense of self-preservation.

    Being realistic about it, it was clear to me at the time that orange clown was one of two things: (1) He was a “deep state” Trojan horse, every bit as evil as Clinton and his predecessors (or even worse), whose purpose in seeking the presidency was to save the “deep state” agenda of world domination and control from “the people”; or (2) He was someone who – just like the rest of us – could see that unless something changes, we’re all screwed, badly, and being 70 years old and wealthy, he decided to take a shot at doing something about it.

    So I gave him the benefit of the doubt; I gambled and lost, as did millions of others.

    • Replies: @Rich
  17. Corvinus says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    “But putting people such as Bolton, Pompeo and Haley into positions of foreign policy responsibility seems to me to be totally unforced major errors.”

    No. There was no error on Trump’s part by putting those individuals into those key positions. Bolton cannot go ahead with any plans to start up trouble with Iran without Trump’s consent. Patrick knows better.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  18. MEexpert says:

    And though Hezbollah has been a “major presence” in Lebanon for several decades, “we won’t accept this as the status quo,” said Pompeo, for Hezbollah is a “wholly owned subsidiary of the Iranian regime.”

    Pompeo needs lessons in ME history and geography. Hizbullah is from Lebanon and for Lebanon. They speak Arabic and are Lebanese citizens. They are represented in the parliament. US wants Hizbullah out of Lebanon, not because they are Iranians but because they are thorn in Israel’s rear end.

    Why don’t people like Pat Buchanan start demanding that Trump fire these war mongers. If there is enough public cry, maybe the he will listen.

    While Trump has urged that the U.S. pull out of these Mideast wars, Pompeo has corrected him, “When America retreats, chaos often follows.”

    Correction Mr. Pompeo, “When America interferes in other countries’ affairs, chaos always follows.

    To achieve world peace and to make America great again, the US must eliminate Israel.

    • Replies: @Patricus
  19. @dvorak

    “What evidence is there that Trump has the power to put an antiwar hero in any of those positions?”

    The proper question is: What evidence is there that Trump is being coerced against his will to install scumbags into these positions?

  20. There is an old saying that you are known by the company you keep. Trump fired his first SOS and National security Advisor. I guess they were too level-headed and cautious for a man who certainly isn’t. Trump then replaced them with men, Pompeo and Bolton, chomping at the bit to employ our military for destructive ends, all for the sake of Israel.

    Did Trump even know what Pompeo and Bolton were all about? How could he not? Trump’s campaign promises about ending the wars was all a scam. I did not like his policies, but felt much safer under Obama, especially after he signed the Nuclear Accord with Iran and several other countries. Trump promptly and recklessly blew it up the first chance he got. Was he paying back Adelson for the millions he gave to get Trump elected?

    If Trump does not fully support what Pompeo and Bolton are selling, then why are they still there?

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
  21. @Corvinus

    Show me the part of Buchanan’s essay which says that Bolton can/will start a war without his boss’s consent?

  22. @dvorak

    “What evidence is there that Trump has the power to put an antiwar hero in any of those positions?”

    Of course, Trump could not get away with naming someone like Rand Paul, or better yet his father, to be his SOS. Still his first two picks were Tillerson (SOS) and McMaster. They were at least somewhat level-headed, but no doubt did not tell their boss what he wanted to hear. Trump fired them within a year and picked the two most hawkish, reckless neocons he could think of – Pompeo and Bolton. In fact, with Bolton’s history, he could have never been confirmed by the Senate, so he was appointed to a position that does not require it.

    The fact that these two maniacs can get away with publicly rebuking Trump’s stated desire to pull the troops out of Syria tells you all you need to know about who is really in control.

  23. @Andrei Martyanov

    You say: “Not that Pompeo or Bolton are better but, at least, they have “ideology”… – Yes, they are blinded by it, as are all neocons. It is the belief in American Exceptionalism.

    “and are in the pockets of Israel lobby.” – and Trump is not?

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  24. RVBlake says:
    @anon

    Bolton bleats that ISIS must first be defeated before U.S. troops leave Syria, and the other sociopath, Pompeo, is in Egypt bloviating that the U.S. has defeated ISIS. These chumps can’t even keep their stories straight.

  25. Rurik says:

    So Trump knew that in going ahead with the withdrawal plan, he would face the wrath of not just the national security elite but Israel and its supporters. He went ahead with his announcement anyway, reflecting an important shift in his political priorities.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-the-israeli-effort-to-keep-trump-in-syria-failed/

  26. @peterAUS

    “What EXACTLY is not to like there?”

    Okay, here EXACTLY are a few things not to like:

    1) Over 4,000 dead or wounded American military personnel.

    2) Who knows how many tens of thousands of dead or wounded Iraqis, including children, who never threatened us.

    3) $1.1 TRILLION in debt, resulting directly from the war.

    4) Blowback from the war leading to the election of obummer.

    5) With the secular dictator Hussein deposed, the mass murder of large numbers of the ancient Iraqi Christian community, with survivors being forced to flee the country entirely.

    6) Iraq becoming a humanitarian disaster and an incubator for terrorist groups, including, without limitation, ISIS.

    The war crime known as the Iraq War was catastrophic for many flesh-and-blood people (including, as mentioned above, Americans). Not that I would expect a chairborne ranger like yourself to care. Now go back to playing HALO, your virtual platoon is taking heavy incoming fire and really needs your advanced combat skills, mate.

  27. @follyofwar

    “and are in the pockets of Israel lobby.” – and Trump is not?

    Last time I checked, he sure as hell, if not in–very close to it. His son in law has impressive Israeli “credentials”. Well, so does his daughter.

  28. Pat’s going senile:

    Trump appointed Bolton

    Trump appointed Pompeo

    any war with Iran will be Trump’s doing,

    all his bogus tweetstorms notwithstanding.

    • Disagree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @MarkinLA
  29. I suspect Bolton and Pompeo were effectively appointed by Sheldon Adelson. They work for Israel, not Trump.

    The Israel lobby may well have made it clear to Trump that if he fires either one of them, his impeachment and conviction can be allowed to go forward.

    • Replies: @Grace Poole
  30. ‘…Said Pompeo: “We strongly support Israel’s efforts to stop Iran from turning Syria into the next Lebanon.”…’

    The irony here is that it was Israel herself — and her servant, ourselves — who was attempting to do to Syria what Israel in fact did do to Lebanon: reduce it to a state of anarchy and civil war. Far from trying to prevent Syria from becoming another Lebanon, Israel was trying to make it into one.

    As further ironies, Hezbollah only exists at all because of Israel’s own invasion of Lebanon, and Iran is only in Syria at all because Assad needed an ally to win the civil war that Israel and we exacerbated and perpetuated. He’s a secular dictator; he never would have invited the Iranians in if he’d had a choice.

    Everything that we’re complaining of, we brought about. Absent Israeli and American actions, Hezbollah wouldn’t exist, and Iran would not be in Syria. All we needed to do was to let well enough alone.

    • Agree: RVBlake
  31. @Haxo Angmark

    ‘…any war with Iran will be Trump’s doing,

    all his bogus tweetstorms notwithstanding.’

    You assume Trump’s master of his own house. I’m skeptical of that.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    , @Harold Smith
  32. anon1 says:

    Another war for Israel.

  33. MarkinLA says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Pat’s not senile. He is just a (somewhat) skilled propagandist doing what they do. It is like when he writes an article about Reagan. Nothing bad that happened under Reagan is Reagan’s fault. It is simply the leftover from Carter screw-up or the inability of GHWB to keep the good times rolling. Anything that happened good under those two was due to Reagan’s fixing the mess or enduring policies that carried into GHWBs administration.

  34. Patricus says:
    @MEexpert

    How in the world can the US eliminate Israel? Nuclear bombs? Whatever one thinks about the Jewish state they are not going to vanish. Our vaunted billions in subsidies amounts to about 1% of Israel’s GDP. Maybe it is long overdue to cut off the subsidies but these are not important.

    Getting out of the middle east is a fine idea. Israel will still be there.

  35. If the Israel-first Neocons once and for all give Netanyahu the war against Iran that he has been demanding for over 20 years, then the world’s Hegemon will have finally bitten off more than it could chew. It will spell the end of the Empire, but there will be millions killed in the process – and that’s assuming it doesn’t go nuclear. American Exceptionalism is a self-destructive ideology which was never going to end well. And the blowback could result in the end of Israel too.

  36. @anon

    You can add to the list his failure to honor his campaign promise to drain the swamp.

  37. @Patricus

    Well, the US could immediately break diplomatic relations with the Hebrews while simultaneously terminating all subsidies.

    Refuse to sell any military hardware to the Jewish state and order all MOSSAD agents out of the country in 24 hours.

    Inform China, Russia, Iran, and Jordan that the US will not stand in their way regarding the fate of the Kikes.

    • Replies: @Patricus
    , @MEexpert
  38. @Colin Wright

    “You assume Trump’s master of his own house. I’m skeptical of that.”

    Whatever happens will be orange clown’s fault. That excuse didn’t work for Son of Sam and it won’t work for the evil orange clown holed up in the white house. Orange clown knowingly and willingly sold out and will accordingly be morally responsible for his treachery regardless of whomever it is that happens to be giving the orders that he voluntarily accepts.

  39. @Patricus

    How in the world can the US eliminate Israel? Nuclear bombs? Whatever one thinks about the Jewish state they are not going to vanish…’

    Au contraire. Pull the plug, and Israel will be visibly closing up shop within six months. Within two years it’ll be gone entirely.

    The place is a monster, that lives on life support. It’s only there because we keep it hooked up.

  40. Patricus says:
    @Liberty Mike

    The subsidies are not essential for Israel. We could stop selling military hardware but they could buy it elsewhere. The Chinese and Russians would not attack a nuclear Israel. They would probably come to terms.

    With all it’s flaws Israel does have rule by laws and they have more in common with western states than with Russia/China. What’s the point of making one more enemy? What would we gain?

  41. MEexpert says:
    @Liberty Mike

    The US could impose sanctions on Israel for not signing NPT and other International Treaties. US could also put a stop all this money flowing to Israel from Jewish billionaires.

  42. Gc says:

    Israel does not have many supporters. If the Americans leave them, all they can do is turn to Russia. In fact those two countries have been getting closer. For example, they need someone using the veto in the security council. That is not unthinkable, if for example Sanders or some one like him will be a president. Then Putin will say goodbye to Iranians and Assad, and the Russian power will grow to new heights.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  43. Gc says:

    Iran is making threaths to Poland, and just a while ago they were planning murders at least in Denmark and France, but the killers got caught. I remember that the bridge between Sweden and Denmark was shut, when they hunted the killers.
    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5385164,00.html

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @jacques sheete
  44. JC says:
    @Patricus

    Israel does have rule by laws what are they bomb thy neighbor whenever i want

  45. Mike P says:
    @Gc

    Iran is making threaths to Poland, and just a while ago they were planning murders at least in Denmark and France, but the killers got caught. I remember that the bridge between Sweden and Denmark was shut, when they hunted the killers.

    And I’m sure the killers will be caught up with and shot within 24 hours of the deed, their first name will be “Mohamed”, their passports will be found right at the scene, and a former Mossad agent will conveniently have caught it all on video.

    And John Bolton will have another emergency meeting with Netanyahu.

  46. @Patricus

    I’d much rather be friends with Russia, which is what Trump claimed he wanted too. They are predominately a white Christian country that does not go to war unless essential (like to prevent Israel/US from totally destroying Syria and installing al-Qaida/ISIS into power). I’d say that Russia is more civilized than is the self-destructive US. Putin is a much better, smarter leader than Trump.

  47. @Gc

    So, after expending so many men and resources to keep the Assad government in power, Putin will turn on them and become Netanyahu’s best bud. Get real!

  48. anon1 says:
    @Wally

    Wish we could print off a million of these.

  49. JLK says:

    Pat reminds me a bit of the Black Knight in the Monty Python movie, still defiant after all his limbs were cut off by the neocons, left only with his brain and tongue, with even his voice muffled by the mask.

    • LOL: Mike P
  50. Pompeo delivered the most idiotic speech I have ever heard from a US Secretary of State. “When America retreats, chaos often follows,” said Pompeo. More correctly; When America attacks, chaos often follows. The evidence is overwhelming: Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Yemen, to name the most prominent.
    I ask myself whether President Trump is really in charge. He ordered the withdrawal from Syria, Bolton, and Pompeo toured the Middle East and foiled him. In any properly functioning government, these two guys would be sacked at once.
    There is another aspect of a possible war against Iran. Israel. The Zionist regime, especially Netanyahu was calling for such a US attack for the last two decades. He tried desperately to push President Obama to go to war with Iran. With President Trump and its Security adviser Bolton, Netanyahu has a say about US Middle Eastern policy. One should remember that Bolton made his bold caveat to Trump’s decision in Israel.
    Pompeo is not one jota better than Bolton. He also bootlicks Netanyahu. Both advisers don’t serve US interests but Israeli ones. To attack Iran would make the chaos in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia, Syria, and Yemen look like smooth operations.
    In the last couple of days, the US lost six members of the armed forces in Syria. If the Israelis and the Saudis want to attack Iran, let them do it alone. At least the Saudi dictatorship would go up the creek, which would be a blessing for the world.
    The US should get out of all the occupied countries at once.

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @FLgeezer
  51. FLgeezer says:
    @Ludwig Watzal

    >In the last couple of days, the US lost six members of the armed forces in Syria.

    What a coincidence that this occurred just after loony Bolton and Pompeo visited the Middle East. The death of these poor American kids seems a false flag to persuade Trump not to bring our contingent home. Bolton, Pompeo, and Netanyahu aren’t above this sort of human sacrifice.

    • Agree: Rurik
  52. Herald says:

    Unlike some of Pat’s recent opinion pieces this one quite fairly lays out the problem with current US policy in the Middle East. The wars are now all down to Trump as after two years he has failed to end them as he loudly promised. Instead he has installed a bunch of pro-Israel thugs in key positions, who endlessly call for war with, far from defenceless, Iran. Likewise, Trump’s weak-kneed announcements about quitting Syria and Afghanistan do nothing at all to show that he is interested in a peaceful withdrawal from the Middle East. Trump is just another name on a long list of deceivers.

  53. Rurik says:
    @Patricus

    With all it’s flaws Israel does have rule by laws and they have more in common with western states than with Russia/China. What’s the point of making one more enemy? What would we gain?

    Israel is to America how cancer is to an otherwise healthy person.

    By making an enemy of cancer, the human stands a chance of survival

    Israel is and always has been America’s premier enemy. It has committed several cowardly acts of war against us, murdering our sailors on the high seas, and orchestrating the attack on 9/11, not to mention waging serial espionage and extortion to the tune of untold billions.

    The people of the US are justifiably hated the world over for America’s slavish war mongering on Israel’s behalf, duh.

    The US has slaughtered, maimed and displaced millions of people since 9/11, and all to benefit the murderous, genocidal, shitty little state of Israel.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  54. Rich says:
    @Harold Smith

    When you guys write “orange clown” you immediately lose all credibility and I’m unable to take anything you write seriously.

  55. Mike P says:
    @FLgeezer

    What a coincidence that this occurred just after loony Bolton and Pompeo visited the Middle East.

    Indeed – this must have been done by someone who does not want the U.S. to leave, which narrows the group of suspects to the usual ones. I’m sure some Mossad agent who was in the neighbourhood by sheer coincidence also happened to catch it all on tape. And he found a passport, too, with first name Mohammed – another day, another Islamist terror attack, oy vey.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  56. Orange-tufted lion spoke to the sheep
    Things so controversial had to be true:
    No more migrants nor wars; loved sheep a bunch.

    Despite his loud roar and bit of a creep,
    They backed him, cuz thought he would make things new.
    Then he changed his mind and ate them for lunch.

  57. @Patricus

    “1% of Israel’s GDP…

    horseshit. Back in the 1980’s, Cheryl Ruebenberg (book: Israel and American National Interest)

    documented TOTAL US goverment + private wealth transfers @ c. $35 billion/year.

    which since then has increased substantially.

    a reasonable current estimate: about 1/3 of Israel’s annual national lucre is bloodsucked out of America each and every year. Maybe more.

    and then there’s ‘Murka’s missing 8,000+ tons of gold.

    (((sombody))) stole it.

  58. @Patricus

    Who is the threat to civilization and life on earth?

  59. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patricus

    what we will gain?

    In a recent piece for The New Yorker, I described a tense scene in the West Wing as the Israeli delegation—which included Israel’s Ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer—tried to get the letter signed by President Donald Trump. By all accounts, the American Administration was eager to please the Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, whom Trump had promised to lavish with unprecedented support. But, at that chaotic moment, Trump’s aides felt blindsided by the Israeli request. They knew nothing about the existence of any letters and were confused by the sense of urgency coming from the Israelis. The Americans had other pressing concerns—later that day, Michael Flynn, the national-security adviser, would hand in his resignation letter—and they didn’t appreciate feeling as though the Israelis were telling them what to do. “This is our fuckin’ house,” one of the Americans snapped
    Trump’s aides were confused and, initially, said that they needed more time. U.S. officials said that the Israelis wanted to limit who could take part in discussions of the letter, citing the need for secrecy. The Americans pushed back. Afterward, senior White House officials huddled together and complained to one another that Dermer had acted as though he owned the White House.

    Cohen said that the issue is central for Netanyahu because the nuclear arsenal fuels his “sense of impunity, sense of Israel being so powerful, that it can dictate its own terms in the region and beyond.”

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-trump-and-three-other-us-presidents-protected-israels-worst-kept-secret-its-nuclear-arsenal

  60. @Rich

    “When you guys write ‘orange clown’ you immediately lose all credibility…”

    In your highly subjective opinion, that is.

    “…and I’m unable to take anything you write seriously.”

    Then perhaps you should keep your orange-clown-deferential eyes off of my comments. But for almost everyone else, the evil orange clown is very real. Check this out:

    • Replies: @Rich
  61. anon[331] • Disclaimer says:

    “No. There was no error on Trump’s part by putting those individuals into those key positions. Bolton cannot go ahead with any plans to start up trouble with Iran without Trump’s consent. Patrick knows better.”

    I wonder if Trump isn’t just playing dumb and letting Bolton enact a policy that he always wanted to go down. There was a disturbing set of stories that emerged last year in regards to Iran. One involved the break in and confiscation of materials relating to an anti-war, pro-Iran group and another involving private investigators being used against supporters of the Iran deal in an attempt to scuttle it.

  62. Renoman says:

    US Embassy in Iraq Covers 80 Football Fields- A Behemoth From Which to Rule the Middle East.

    Do you seriously think they’re going anywhere?
    Of course Bolton wants a war with Iran his boss in Israel told him so.

  63. KenH says:

    “Stop the ENDLESS WARS!” implored President Donald Trump in a Sunday night tweet.

    Trump seems not to know that he’s the president and can exercise his authority to stop the wars. It’s almost like he’s saying he’s powerless and pleading with the deep state or (((someone else))) to stop the wars.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  64. “Stop the ENDLESS WARS!” implored President Donald Trump in a Sunday night tweet.

    Well, if he is serious…

    He’s not, at least about that. If he were, he’d fire Bolton and the rest of the neocons and other assorted crackpots.

    The only thing he’s serious about is covering his tusch. Once the bombing and mass murder starts he can pretend the devil made him do it against his will.

  65. @anonymous

    Why do so many of you intelligent people still buy into the political puppet show, expecting BigGov to fix itself?

    That’s one of the apparently eternal questions, and I wish I had both an answer and the ability to administer a cure.

  66. @Rich

    When you guys write “orange clown” you immediately lose all credibility and I’m unable to take anything you write seriously.

    I hope you don’t take Humpty Trumpty seriously either.

    • Replies: @Rich
  67. @Gc

    Iran is making threaths to Poland…

    Say, you wouldn’t be interested in some nice mountain property in Florida, would you? It’s a bargain, too.

  68. @Mr. Anon

    Are you serious? How many Arab states would be willing to publicly join an alliance with Israel?

  69. @FLgeezer

    “Agree” button already used.

  70. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    Kind of hard not to take the President of the United States seriously. Whether you agree with his moderate Republican policies or anti illegal alien rhetoric, he is still in the office. We had a low intelligence, affirmative action president for 8 years and survived. I think we’ll survive Trump, too.

  71. @KenH

    “Trump seems not to know that he’s the president and can exercise his authority to stop the wars. It’s almost like he’s saying he’s powerless and pleading with the deep state or (((someone else))) to stop the wars.”

    Yet he apparently knew he was in charge when he ordered a cruise missile attack on the Shayrat airbase in Syria on April 7, 2017, and made himself a mass-murdering war criminal, accordingly.

    And he knew he was in charge when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem and abandoned the JCPOA agreement with Iran.

    And then, back in early December, he had no problem issuing an ultimatum to Russia to stop violating the INF treaty within the next 60 days or he’s going to withdraw from the treaty; thereby single-handedly taking the world back to most dangerous days of the cold war.

    It seems a little odd how has no problem with bold assertions of presidential power when the object is to do the the wrong thing (evil), but when it comes to doing anything reasonable he’s completely impotent and all he can do is posture and tell stories.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
  72. @Rich

    “Kind of hard not to take the President of the United States seriously.”

    Obviously, orange clown is completely mentally and morally defective and he therefore has no business occupying the highest political office in the land. He’s the equivalent of an unsupervised, emotionally disturbed child playing with matches, in a house full of highly flammable material, and that – i.e., the extreme danger he poses to all life on this planet – is the only sense in which he can be taken seriously.

    “Whether you agree with his moderate Republican policies or anti illegal alien rhetoric, he is still in the office.”

    As I said, he’s the equivalent of an unsupervised, emotionally disturbed child playing with matches, in a house full of highly flammable material.

    We had a low intelligence, affirmative action president for 8 years and survived. I think we’ll survive Trump, too.

    So, as the evil clown does everything but declare war on Russia and China, going far beyond the provocations of his predecessors, you “think” we may survive? That’s very reassuring.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
    , @Rurik
  73. @Rich

    Kind of hard not to take the President of the United States seriously.

    I get what you’re saying, but to be more precise, I believe we’re talking about taking his proclamations seriously as in taking them at face value. I hope no one is gullible enough to believe what he says or tweets because what we’re witnessing is the old razzle dazzle of con men; it’s a form of the “good cop, bad cop routine” as time will surely tell.

    It’s so transparently simplistic that it’s laughable.

    I think we’ll survive Trump, too.

    That’s not only beside the point, but way too little to expect, I think. It doesn’t excuse him or his appointees, either.

  74. @Harold Smith

    “Whether you agree with his moderate Republican policies or anti illegal alien rhetoric, he is still in the office.”

    Can you explain to me why he made a comment like that? What’s the point? Are we supposed to laugh or cry about it or what?

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Rich
  75. @Rich

    Not an Obama fan, but he was hardly of low intelligence (though his predecessor GWB certainly was). Plus, as he was elected and not appointed, how could Obama have been an affirmative action president? IMHO, the best thing that Obama ever did in his below average presidency was to negotiate, with SOS Kerry doing the heavy lifting, the Nuclear Agreement with Iran, which several other countries also signed. When Mr. Trump tore it up, and installed Pompeo and Bolton in office, Trump made the world a much more dangerous place.

    OTOH, the Deep State has shown they are the enemy of peace (and the people) when they did everything within their power to prevent Trump from fulfilling his campaign promise to pursue better relations with Russia, and by appointing a special council a**hole to perform a proctological exam into everything he has ever said and done.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Rich
  76. anon[673] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m seeing the many grave errors our governments have made in handling the territory and its residents, the construction of civilian settlements chief among them.
    But because I’m zoomed out, I’m also seeing Hezbollah (not Palestinian), and the Russians and Iranians (not Palestinian), and the Islamic State-affiliated insurgents (not Palestinian) on our border with Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. I’m considering the disastrous result of the power vacuum in Syria, which is a 90-minute drive from the West Bank.
    In the “Israeli-Palestinian” framing, with all other regional components obscured, an Israeli withdrawal in the West Bank seems like a good idea — “like a real-estate deal,” in President Trump’s formulation — if not a moral imperative. And if the regional context were peace, as it was in Northern Ireland, for example, a power vacuum could indeed be filled by calm.
    But anyone using a wider lens sees that the actual context here is a complex, multifaceted war, or a set of linked wars, devastating this part of the world. The scope of this conflict is hard to grasp in fragmented news reports but easy to see if you pull out a map and look at Israel’s surroundings, from Libya through Syria and Iraq to Yemen—- by Matti Friedman NYT 17th Jan
    Contributing Opinion Writer

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/israeli-palestinian-conflict-matti-friedman.html

    Yes Bolton has to guide. He the front man that hides the real swamp of the evils . Like this article focus on the current reality and hides the factors that brought the situation to this turmoil . The pNAC doctrine of reconfiguring ME has been forgotten by this writer . The materialization of that dream by Wolfowitz, Sharon, OSP , has been forgotten . The blockade of Gaza giving rise to this has been forgotten . Lebanese air space violation and direct material help to ISIS has been forgotten . Libyan descent and the confluence of Bernard Levy with islamic terrorist has been forgotten. Topping of Morsi has been forgotten . Without those and some more , Israel wouldn’t be surrounded by ISIS and Iran.

    On another level this writer is lacking also. Despite being surrounded by these evil forces , and by the sound fury and visuals of ongoing bloodletting , Israel is the one asking for continued blood letting, nuking Iran, bombing Syria and is least affected by the “dangerous “forces outside its borders.

  77. @jacques sheete

    “Can you explain to me why he made a comment like that? What’s the point? Are we supposed to laugh or cry about it or what?”

    I think it’s a cue to just shut-up and reach for the xanax, or something like that.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  78. @FLgeezer

    I don’t want to see any Americans killed overseas. However, false flag or not, they were well paid mercenaries operating in a combat zone area. They knew, or should have known, the risks. I feel sorry for their families, but don’t see these trained killers as “poor American kids.”

    • Agree: bluedog
  79. anon[673] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/shutterstock_8976570ac.jpg?crop=900:600&width=1910 THEY ARE BACK .

    Don’t try to disagree with them . Disagreement or not listening to them all the way to the finish line or until the descent to the bottom of the abyss prevented or slowed the death and demise . This time power it by million volts and turbo charge it on all 8 cylinders.

  80. @follyofwar

    “OTOH, the Deep State has shown they are the enemy of peace (and the people) when they did everything within their power to prevent Trump from fulfilling his campaign promise to pursue better relations with Russia, and by appointing a special council a**hole to perform a proctological exam into everything he has ever said and done.”

    That theory was perhaps plausible for a while, but so many bad things have happened and so many good things have failed to happen that it’s no longer plausible; by now it just doesn’t stand up to logical scrutiny, IMO.

    What our “masters” are doing is trying to provide political cover for orange clown as he executes his calculated reversals/betrayals. They apparently feel that there is some propaganda value in the continuing effort to portray him as the hapless yet well-intentioned victim of deep state coercion that’s simply beyond his control.

    In doing this, it seems part of their objective is to send a message to Americans: “See, it really doesn’t matter who you elect, even someone as obviously well-intentioned as Donald Trump is powerless in the face of our omnipotence…”; or something like that, when in reality he’s their loyal agent.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  81. @Harold Smith

    Thanks. I thought maybe it was virtue or coolness signaling or whatever.

  82. @Harold Smith

    In doing this, it seems part of their objective is to send a message to Americans: “See, it really doesn’t matter who you elect, even someone as obviously well-intentioned as Donald Trump is powerless in the face of our omnipotence…”; or something like that, when in reality he’s their loyal agent.

    Yup. Woodie Wilson all over again. And speaking of taking their pronouncements seriously, the same applies to the politician’s proceedings. Check this, from a century ago.:

    If it were not so serious, it would be amusing to watch the proceedings down here in Washington. There is no such other farce in this country. That is because the stakes are larger …

    – Charles A. Lindbergh Sr., Real Needs, p77, (1915)

    Member of the U.S. House of Representatives, 1907 –1917

    https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=wtgvAQAAMAAJ&rdid=book-wtgvAQAAMAAJ&rdot=1

    • Replies: @Rurik
  83. Rurik says:
    @Harold Smith

    Obviously, orange clown is completely mentally and morally defective and he therefore has no business occupying the highest political office in the land.

    pray tell..

    In what way is he more mentally or morally more defective than Hillary Clinton?

    Or Barak Obama?

    Or John McBloodstain [RIH]

    or virtually every member of congress who goes along with wars based on lies?

    Because Trump allowed gold-digging bimbos to offer their private parts for his appraisal?

    In what way precisely, is Donald Trump more of a disaster than Hillary would have been, eh?

    He’s the equivalent of an unsupervised, emotionally disturbed child playing with matches, in a house full of highly flammable material

    After seeing what Obama/Hillary did to Libya, for instance, or Syria, I’d say your description applies to them pretty accurately.

    Trump on the other hand has been attempting rapprochement with Putin’s Russia from day one. In fact this is the reason the Deepstate has been apoplectic with rage, and people like Obama’s head of the CIA- Brennan is doing his best Rumpelstiltskin impression because Trump met and talked to Putin like two sane adults at Helsinki. ‘It’s treason!’ Brennan slobbered.

    If Hillary Clinton wins the U.S. presidential election in November, John Brennan would like to continue his post as director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2016-08-03/obama-s-cia-director-wants-to-stick-around-for-Clinton

    So, as the evil clown does everything but declare war on Russia and China, going far beyond the provocations of his predecessors, you “think” we may survive?

    “beyond the provocations of his predecessors” ?

    Obviously you must be ignoring all the wars and mass murders and serial destabilizations of Obama and Bush and those before them.

    But even if you’re strictly limiting that fantastic statement to just Russia and China, just look at what Obama/Hillary’s state dept. did in Ukraine. Or what Bush/McBloodstain did in Georgia. They caused hot wars that have gotten thousands of Russians and others killed. Ukraine was a direct and deliberate provocation against Putin’s Russia as a pretext to start a war.

    Trump on the other hand has signaled that he wants out of the quagmire in Syria that Obama and Hillary created.

    Your myopia and hatred for Trump (and the Deplorables?) really seems a bit unhinged.

    Yes Trump is a million miles from perfect, but in his heart, I suspect he wants to end the wars, build the beautiful wall, and Make America Great again. Any why not? Why not go down in history as perhaps one of the greatest American presidents, and greatest statesman the world has recently known?

    He’s even talking about leaving NATO!

    Do you realize how fucking amazing that would be?!

    It would mean there’s hope for the world.

    Just look at the way the Deepstate minions are screeching and pulling their hair out over his talk of leaving NATO.

    the video also has a clip about how the Deepstate would not tolerate Tulsi Gabbard for her coddling of Syria’s Assad.

    More here:

    https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-trump-leaving-nato-a-nightmare-for-israel-netanyahu-1.6846949

    The bottom line is that a president is not allowed to just do whatever he wants to.

    There is pushback, and threats and obstacles tossed in his way. They all have to play ball if they want to make any progress.

    Trump is not perfect, but considering what the alternative was, we all dodged a nuclear bullet when Trump beat that netherworld cackling hag.

    For that alone, I’m cutting him some slack.

  84. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    Yup. Woodie Wilson all over again.

    ahh Jacque, I almost never get an opportunity to disagree with you. But I’m afraid Trump is no Woodie Wilson, thank the Gods!

    Just imagine how easy it would be for Trump to be hailed as the greatest leader of all time, from one end of the zio-sphere to the other. If Trump would but start a war with Iran (or Lebanon or somewhere!), the entire length and breath of the Fiend’s media mouthpieces would be hailing him as the second coming. His approval ratings would shoot though the roof. The Prime Ministers of England and presidents of France and Canada would all be gushing their profound admiration for such a great leader of this new 21st century. The NYT would have front page stories hailing his masterful statecraft. The vapid girls on the View would preen for him to come on the show. The Economist and Time magazines would all have front page photos of a gloriously presidential Donald J. Trump.

    It’d be like Dubya after 9/11, a great and munificent hero!

    But instead he mocks the press. Calls them ‘fake news’, and belittles them.

    While he stubbornly refuses to bomb Iran! or even Syria, where we already have all the false flag infrastructure in place!

    Wilson forced America into WWI, when he was elected specifically to do the opposite, and keep us out. Then he set about betraying Germany into an armistice that allowed Wilson and his ((allies)) to starve Germany into abject submission and humiliation for decades. That was when he wasn’t vouchsafing Trotsky’s mission to impose Bolshevism on Russia and beyond, or facilitating the worst disaster of the 20th century: handing over the keys to the US Treasury to the world’s most evil men.

    Trump may be a big disappointment on many levels, but let’s try not to equate him with the devil himself please, at least not yet.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  85. Rich says:
    @follyofwar

    When did Obama ever show any signs of high intelligence? He accomplished everything in his life through affirmative action, never held a real job outside of politics and looked completely lost if his teleprompter went out. His Obama care boondoggle actually made an already sick American health care system even worse. And I remember he refused to release his grades from Columbia, his SAT scores or his LSAT scores. If he’d scored high, a narcissist like him would have been waving his scores all over the place. Empty suit, affirmative action poster boy.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
  86. anon[275] • Disclaimer says:

    “In what way is he more mentally or morally more defective than Hillary Clinton? Or Barak Obama? Or John McBloodstain [RIH].”

    Or Mitt Romney? That’s how they control you. They force you to choose between two bad options, both of which are loyal to the ruling class regime, so nothing ever truly changes. How exactly is this any different from Iran’s regime where candidates are approved by the Ayatollah?

    Polls show conservatives are skeptical of bad free trade deals, so of course the republic party rushes them through congress along with tax cuts for the rich. Polls show Americans are sick of war, so of course the CIA’s democrat party lies about anti-war democrats like Tulsi Gabbard. That’s not democracy but theocracy of the state. It’s controlled opposition with rigged elections.

    “Trump is not perfect, but considering what the alternative was, we all dodged a nuclear bullet when Trump beat that netherworld cackling hag.”

    Probably true. It seems like every election puts the world on a knife’s edge. That tells you everything you need to know about this corrupt, fake country. It’s not a real country but an economic unit where people exist as cogs in a mechanism to serve the interests of other peoples and governments around the world. Why is that system worth saving and why do we have to choose between two bad options – controlled opposition – in every election? Why do we have to choose between the greedy, corrupt republic party and the racist, warmongering democrat party?

    • Replies: @Rurik
  87. Rurik says:
    @anon

    How exactly is this any different from Iran’s regime where candidates are approved by the Ayatollah?

    Well, for what it’s worth, I felt that all of Trump’s Republican opponents were of the kosher approved type. Whereas Trump was the outsider.

    There’s still an ephemeral whisper of a hope that he still retains some shred of that rapscallion, shitlord renegade that drove the ((hive)) into paroxysms of spittle-flying fury. Perhaps just enough that he refuses to start any more of ((their)) wars.

    That would be a miracle in and of itself.

    Why do we have to choose between the greedy, corrupt republic party and the racist, warmongering democrat party?

    Because Woodie Wilson handed over the keys of the US Treasury to the world’s most sinister cabal of tribal supremacist fiends?

    And with it, the nefarious power to create out of thin air as many trillions of Federal Reserve Note dollars as are necessary to corrupt every last bastion of decency or hope on the planet?

    Sounds about right to me..

  88. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    I wrote that sentence because it’s true. Trump has actually only governed as a typical moderate Republican. Those of you trying to make him out to be an unhinged threat to all of society are simply unable to see past the biased MSM headlines. Except for his anti-illegal alien rhetoric, he’s governed about the same as Kasich or Jeb would have done. Get off the crazy wagon.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  89. @Rich

    Do you really not see the walls in your prison?
    Think really hard about what you just typed and then compare that to the definition of being a sovereign free man/woman. You are not supposed to worship a position or men/women that is ruining your grand children and great great grand children`s future!
    We humans are supposed to despise and avoid spoiled and rotten things, it seems like our self proclaimed “owners” have managed to breed that sense out of big parts of humanity with their wars.

    • Agree: jacques sheete
    • Replies: @Rich
  90. Rich says:
    @Harold Smith

    “For almost everyone else “? You do realize that half the country voted for him, right? I think you meant everyone who lives in your bubble. But it’s certainly okay if you want to come off as a buffoon, the world needs buffoons, too.

  91. gsjackson says:

    For whatever it’s worth, the Q narrative holds that Bolton and Pompeo are nothing but misdirection to fool Israel and the Deep State into thinking it’s business as usual. They will be dispensed with when their usefulness in that purpose is concluded.

    Yeah, I know — I’ll believe it when I see it too. But despite all the idiotic saber-rattling, Trump hasn’t started any new wars, troops in Syria and Afghanistan apparently are coming home regardless of Bolton’s efforts, major DS projects such as TPP, NAFTA and the Paris Accords have been torpedoed, and Trump does seem to be setting up the Fed to take a fall when the economy heads south.

    Jury’s still out from where I sit. Two years into Trump’s presidency, I still have no idea who he is.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  92. anon[426] • Disclaimer says:

    “For whatever it’s worth, the Q narrative holds that”

    Q is a conspiracy for cranks who can’t accept they were wrong about making America great again. This country will never be great again. This phenomenon is no different from Roman-era Christians embracing the delusion that the end times would befall Rome and end their suffering. It’s a comforting delusion but nothing more.

  93. @Rurik

    Powerful riposte to our resident Trump hater, Mr. Smith.

    I’d love to agree with everything you say except for two things: The appointments of Israel-first, war-first ultimate neocons Pompeo and Bolton to replace the seemingly much more level-headed Tillerson and McMaster. Maybe those Puppet Masters who control everything from behind the curtain made him do it. But, somehow, I that one is on Trump.

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
    , @Rurik
  94. @Rich

    I admit I could be wrong about Obama’s intelligence, Rich. I have no idea what his IQ is. Sometimes being glib makes one appear more intelligent than they are. I guess finally getting a president who could sometimes speak in coherent sentences, after eight years of the worst idiot to ever hold the office, made Obama seem like a genius in comparison.

    I don’t buy into this obsession about having to release one’s grades anyway. Who cares how Obama scored on his SAT while a high school junior? Grades don’t mean bubkus. Did Trump release his? I don’t know nor do I care.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @MarkinLA
    , @anon1
  95. @Rurik

    “pray tell..

    In what way is he more mentally or morally more defective than Hillary Clinton?”

    Did I say otherwise? No, but now that you’ve broached the subject, I’ll entertain your red herring and opine that being the “deep state” apparently picked orange clown over Clinton (there’s no way “deep state” agent Obama din’t know that attacking the Syrian army at Deir Ezzor in Sept. 2016 thereby escalating tension with Russia wouldn’t hurt Clinton and help Trump), ipso facto orange clown is very likely the greater evil.

    Moreover, Clinton, as evil as she is, to her credit at least wears her evil on her sleeve, whereas Duplicitous Don had to completely misrepresent himself with his faux America first rhetoric to even have a chance to win. IOW what the evil clown did was to outrightly steal votes; tantamount to rigging voting machines. The scumbag is the lowest of the low, IMO.

    “Or Barak Obama?

    Or John McBloodstain [RIH]

    or virtually every member of congress who goes along with wars based on lies?”

    Well it’s your strawman, so I’ll let you have your way with it, but if you don’t mind I’ll just take the opportunity to share some of my thoughts and observations.

    Generally speaking, how do you suppose the “deep state” decides who they want to install into the office of president? Did you ever wonder why they picked Obama for example, with all of his “baggage” (e.g., he couldn’t even show that he’s legally qualified to be president) when there were apparently lots of other facially evil, ambitious scoundrels waiting in the wings for a taste of power? Is it just a case of eeny, meeny, miny, moe, or could it be a much more involved selection process?

    Well I’ll tell you what I believe. I believe that mailman Alan Hulton’s story about a conversation he had with a young Barack Obama on the sidewalk in front of the Ayres’ house in Chicago is credible. That was the conversation where Obama allegedly told Hulton in a matter-of-fact way that he was going to be president of the U.S.

    It is believable in part because of the trouble somebody obviously went through to hide Obama’s skeletons and to ghost write a fake book, and to generally create for him a faux public persona suitable to their political needs.

    In light of this it’s probable that orange clown was groomed for the job of president long before the election; thus his tweets from 2013 admonishing Obama against intervention in Syria, for example, were likely all part of the scam, IMO.

    So what are the selection criteria for president? I believe they look for certain traits in prospective puppet rulers which are partly historical-and-political-context-dependent (e.g., orange clown fits after Obama but wouldn’t have worked out immediately after Bush), but most importantly, their candidates must be demonically evil; just plain dishonest, immoral, murderous, etc. won’t suffice. This is because as we move into the “end times” where the elders find themselves at a now or never moment, the final push for world domination and control risks nuclear war, and they accordingly need someone evil enough to take personal responsibility for bringing about the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it.

    IOW they need someone who doesn’t have a problem with giving the orders which will ultimately destroy himself and his family along with billions of others on this planet, if it should come to that point. And they picked Donald John Trump as their man, and that should tell you everything you need to know.

    I hope that helps.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @jacques sheete
  96. @Rich

    “You do realize that half the country voted for him, right?”

    You do realize that I voted for orange clown myself, right?

    “I think you meant everyone who lives in your bubble. But it’s certainly okay if you want to come off as a buffoon, the world needs buffoons, too.”

    You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile drivel.

  97. Rich says:
    @follyofwar

    SAT scores actually do give a pretty accurate indication of intelligence, but Obama refused to even reveal his college GPA. The guy was obviously an empty suit. And remember, your boy, Obama, only spoke decently when his teleprompter was on, in conversation he makes GWB look intelligent. Trump, at least, worked in the rough and tumble world of NYC real estate, where if you’re not quick witted, you get eaten alive.

  98. Rich says:
    @Per/Norway

    Let me get this straight, in your world taking the President of the United States seriously equals worship? I take him seriously because he wields a lot of power, I don’t worship any human being. Maybe not taking who runs our countries seriously is how we ended up in our present situation?

  99. @follyofwar

    “Powerful riposte to our resident Trump hater, Mr. Smith.”

    LOL! Go get’em folly!

    BTW why wouldn’t I hate orange clown? Hate is a normal human emotion, just like the others. If orange clown is not a legitimate object of hatred after all the evil he’s done, and all the future evil he’s poised to do, then there’s no such thing as legitimate hatred. I wonder, do you also repudiate all the other human emotions?

    And you know something folly, you hypocritical orange clown apologists make me sick, and I’ll tell you why. If orange clown invaded your house and slaughtered your family with a machine gun, for example, I’m quite sure that you wouldn’t be making excuse for his behavior, right? Let’s be honest; you’d hate his guts.

    On April 7, 2017, orange clown perpetrated a heinous war crime in Syria whereby 14 innocent people were murdered and approximately the same number were wounded. (And he’s murdered many more since then). The difference between you and I is that unlike you, I recognize that those victims had the same right to exist that I have and that you have. The fact that his victims lived in a far away country and spoke a different language is irrelevant. He doesn’t have to murder my family in order for me to appreciate the evil he’s doing.

    None of us asked to be born into this world, and that is the thing that binds all living, sentient creatures together; we’re all on the same existential plane. If you cannot accept that then you’re on the same moral plane as the worst jewish-supremacist madmen.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  100. Rurik says:
    @follyofwar

    agree with everything you say except for two things: The appointments of Israel-first, war-first ultimate neocons Pompeo and Bolton

    Well please make no mistake, I hardly endorse those arseholes for anything. I’ve hated Bolton for years, ever since I figured out what a rabid, treasonous, neocon sack of shit he was/is.

    (pardon the language, but some topics rile me)

    No, appointing Bolton sent chills down my spine, just as many of the things Trump has done have alarmed me to the core. (like the particular anniversary of his attack on Syria, for instance, and his pardoning of that filthy rat Sholom Rubashkin, and other things).

    But so far, Bolton is there and the war is winding down in Syria, rather than escalating. I’m constantly clinging to hope. I’m hoping that Bolton is there as a necessity to mollify the Sheldon Adelson wing of the GOP. Something he had to do to get Lindsey and so many others to back off.

    Sure, I’d like to see an American first Secretary of State and National Security Adviser, rather than rabid Israeli-first scum, but there are realities on the ground that can’t be ignored.

    My hope is that Trump is playing the game long enough to get enough people into the intelligence agencies and Pentagon and FBI, Secret Service, etc.. in order to prevent his being JFK’d.

    And then once he can sleep at night, then he’ll begin the America-first changes. I hope.

    I know it sounds Pollyanna to the more cynical, but so far the guy hasn’t done anything so egregious that I’ve written him off completely.

    And he’s done a lot of very good things too.

  101. Virgile says:

    Trump needs the neocons and the Zionist lobby to prevent his empeachment and to win a second mandate. Therefore he can’t alienate them. So he is letting Bolton and Pompeo throw absurd ideas about Iran and Russia without reacting seriously. He offers spectacular presents to Israel while denying its important requests. Practicaly he is doing nothing important of what they ask. He does what he thinks is necessary to keep his popularity up as the Americans are as important as the neocons and the zionist lobby to win an election
    After his re election, if he survives I expect a total shift and the dismissal of Pompeo and Bolton.

    • Replies: @JLK
    , @gsjackson
  102. Rurik says:
    @Harold Smith

    whereas Duplicitous Don had to completely misrepresent himself with his faux America first rhetoric to even have a chance to win. IOW what the evil clown did was to outrightly steal votes; tantamount to rigging voting machines. The scumbag is the lowest of the low, IMO.

    It sounds like you’re implying that Trump is uniquely evil as a politician for misrepresenting himself to voters during a campaign.

    Don’t they (nearly) all do that?

    As far as stealing and rigging, I’d say Hillary and the GOP are far worse than Trump. And, I’m not convinced that Trump was entirely false about his intentions. He’s already done many of the things he said he would do, not least of which is his intention to vacate Syria and draw down Afghanistan. Momentous accomplishments if he can pull them off.

    If he’s just lying about his intentions to do so. and bringing down upon his administration a thousand howling banshees for no other reason than bad press, then the strategy seems rather quixotic and pyrrhic no?

    In light of this it’s probable that orange clown was groomed for the job of president long before the election; thus his tweets from 2013 admonishing Obama against intervention in Syria, for example, were likely all part of the scam, IMO.

    Yes, Obama was obviously selected, anointed and groomed, but I’d hardly say the same about Trump.

    The entire media and political machine latched onto Obama and gushed their collective hosannas.

    Trump was given the opposite treatment. And still is.

    That would all change in a New York second, if Trump would but bomb Damascus and take out Assad, or at least declare a no-fly zone in Syria, and confront Putin. Then he’d be given the Obama treatment, and hailed as a great president. But he’s not doing that, is he? Instead he’s calling them fake news, and telegraphing to Putin that he wants to wind down the hostility towards Russia.

    A stooge of the deepstate would be doing the opposite.

    IOW they need someone who doesn’t have a problem with giving the orders which will ultimately destroy himself and his family along with billions of others on this planet, if it should come to that point. And they picked Donald John Trump as their man, and that should tell you everything you need to know.

    I get what you’re saying, and I have no doubt that the PTB would be willing to go all out nuke, so long as they themselves were guaranteed a cushy place in the mega-bunkers. And if it came down to a case of them being threatened with losing their iron grip on power, then I’d say they’d even be willing to turn the planet into a dead rock, sacrificing even themselves, rather than hand over power. A Samson Option for all life, and they’d no doubt do it. Because as you point out, they are not just murderous and immoral, no they are demonically evil, insofar as that word has meaning, and Orwell had their number when he laid out their motivating principle. Power. Power over others for the sake of wielding it, and using it to make people suffer, for the pleasure it gives them to do so.

    Yes, that is the very id of the rulers today, and the very nature of those in control behind the scenes.

    But they are not all powerful yet. All you have to do is look at Putin’s Russia, to see how one man was able to wrest control of his nation away from the Fiend.

    Now it’s a matter of what will Donald Trump do? Will he and the Deplorables also wrest control of the ZUS away from the Fiend, or will he act as the Fiend’s willing quisling, and hand over all our fates to Moloch, to be sacrificed in the fires of tribal hatred and power run amok.

    It is to be seen…

    • Replies: @Harold Smith
  103. @Rich

    Get off the crazy wagon.

    You feeling territorial ‘er sumpin? 🙂

  104. @Rich

    You do realize that half the country voted for him, right?

    Wrong.

    Around half of those who cast ballots did so in his favor, and I bet most were cast against the She Hyena. The difference is significant. Furthermore, those who voted for him did so under false impressions. He suckered them, in other words.

    But it’s certainly okay if you want to come off as a buffoon, the world needs buffoons, too.

    • Replies: @Rich
  105. @gsjackson

    Trump hasn’t started any new wars…

    That we know of. In other words, you don’t know that and besides, the way he flaps his lips, it hasn’t been for lack of trying. He sure likes to posture as if he’s provoking Iran, Russia and China to name a few. Also, do trade wars count?

    • Replies: @gsjackson
  106. @Harold Smith

    Powerful riposte to our resident Trump apologist!

    I thought fow was better than that!

  107. JLK says:
    @Virgile

    After his re election, if he survives I expect a total shift and the dismissal of Pompeo and Bolton.

    I’m not sure exactly what “they” are afraid that Trump is going to say or do, but it’s pretty apparent that they don’t really want him around a few years from now as a lame duck.

  108. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    I see what you did there, but can’t you come up with your own material? I suppose I should feel flattered but if you guys are just going to throw my own lines at me, I’m going to get bored.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  109. lavoisier says: • Website

    If Trump decides to go to war against Iran he is finished.

    Completely. Absolutely. Finished.

    Sure the traitorous usual suspects will herald his “courage and leadership” the same way they lauded the fool Bush.

    But those patriots who supported Trump, and thought he served the historic American nation, will abandon ship.

    And when the usual suspects realize that Trump cannot help them anymore, they will discard him.

  110. @Mr. Anon

    AFAIK, Israelis think of themselves as some sort of chosen people, who would not bother allying with the untermensch, be they Arabs or other ethnicities.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  111. I don’t like wars, but the fact is America can turn Iran into today’s Libya or Iraq. Yes, it wil cost the Americans a few tens or hundreds of lives, and half a trillion dollars, but those lives and money would have been wasted on opioids. Better to give those young people a place to use their violent impulses.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  112. MarkinLA says:
    @follyofwar

    Who cares how Obama scored on his SAT while a high school junior?

    It is only relevant as far as determining if he was a lifelong AA recipient or he was really the genius all his worshippers say he was.

  113. @Rich

    …but can’t you come up with your own material?

    Why should I waste the effort? You know, pearls, swine, and all that. Besides, it’s much more fun hoisting retards with their own petards.

    I’m going to get bored.

    I already am.

    • Replies: @Rich
  114. peterAUS says:
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    …the fact is America can turn Iran into today’s Libya or Iraq. Yes, it wil cost the Americans a few tens or hundreds of lives, and half a trillion dollars

    Pretty much.

    This, though:

    but those lives and money would have been wasted on opioids. Better to give those young people a place to use their violent impulses.

    is rather……… cynical.

    You one of “top 15 %”, by any chance?

  115. gsjackson says:
    @Rurik

    I was wondering what happened to Rick Sanchez (last video) after his banishment from the corporate media for uttering the word Israel without the requisite hosannas. Good old RT, providing a home for the exiled. What, by the way, did Larry King do to be banished? Just be old and a remnant from a generation that still had an iota of common sense?

  116. gsjackson says:
    @Virgile

    That is interesting. He’s given (((them))) great gobs of brain-dead, war-mongering rhetoric, and Jerusalem, but nothing of geo-political significance that (((they))) want. Makes you think something helpful is afoot.

  117. gsjackson says:
    @jacques sheete

    Oh, I think if he had started any wars (((they))) want, we would know about it. As rurik noted above, Trump would be praised from sea to shining sea and across western Europe as the great statesman of our times. Brian William would be rapturous at the beautiful violence, and join in the resounding media hallelujah chorus.

    Trump’s economic policy supposedly is built around one lodestar — repatriating American industry. Whether the “trade wars,” such as they are, might usefully serve that purpose, I haven’t thought or read about carefully enough to have an informed opinion.

    OT, and speaking of hallelujah, any ISteve readers here who remember Luka Doncic appearing in a thread last summer before the NBA season started? I had seen him play in Madrid, and predicted the teams that passed him in the draft would regret it. Halle Luka — a song all the rage now in Dallas.

    • Replies: @jacques sheete
  118. @Rurik

    It sounds like you’re implying that Trump is uniquely evil as a politician for misrepresenting himself to voters during a campaign.

    For that and other reasons, yes I am; I believe he’s a uniquely evil person. (BTW as I see it, orange clown was not technically a “politician” going into this; at least not a career politician, and that factors into my moral analysis of the situation).

    Don’t they (nearly) all do that?

    Generally yes, but it’s the contextual details that determine where on the spectrum the evil lies.

    “As far as stealing and rigging, I’d say Hillary and the GOP are far worse than Trump.”

    IIRC, several times on this site I’ve gone into detail explaining what it is that makes Trump’s evil relatively worse, IMO. Perhaps I’m just lazy but I honestly don’t feel like going through it yet again.

    “And, I’m not convinced that Trump was entirely false about his intentions.”

    You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but you’re not entitled to be taken seriously, and if this is your opinion after all that’s happened, then I’m sorry but many lines of reasoning would prevent me from taking you seriously.

    “He’s already done many of the things he said he would do, not least of which is his intention to vacate Syria and draw down Afghanistan. Momentous accomplishments if he can pull them off.”

    Whether or not something is a “momentous accomplishment” depends on the spirit in which it was done. Since in the realm of foreign policy Trump hasn’t done anything yet in good faith as far as I can see, I assume that if he does actually withdraw any troops from anywhere, it’s not because he’s had some kind of a spiritual epiphany, but that it’s merely a guileful rearrangement of the deck chairs on the Titanic.

    “If he’s just lying about his intentions to do so. and bringing down upon his administration a thousand howling banshees for no other reason than bad press, then the strategy seems rather quixotic and pyrrhic no?”

    I’ve just had an almost identical long-winded “discussion” with someone else about this and I just don’t feel like going through it all again. But what about Trump’s decision to pull out of the INF treaty with Russia for example, rather than negotiating in good faith to work out the issues and strengthen the treaty? He’s going to make America great again by taking the world back to the most dangerous days of the cold war? That would seem rather quixotic and pyrrhic, wouldn’t you say?

    “Yes, Obama was obviously selected, anointed and groomed, but I’d hardly say the same about Trump.”

    And you’d be wrong about that, IMO.

    “The entire media and political machine latched onto Obama and gushed their collective hosannas.

    Trump was given the opposite treatment. And still is.”

    LOL! Seriously? Of course that’s partly why many of us voted for Trump, myself included. (And that’s apparently what our “masters” wanted us to do). We gambled that he was not the evil person that he’s since shown himself to be. We were wrong. The “treatment” he gets is cheap talk; a political Punch and Judy show; very simple.

    Well it’s getting late and this discussion seems pointless, so I’m quitting here.

    • Replies: @Rich
  119. Rich says:
    @jacques sheete

    Makes sense, since you are a bore…

  120. @gsjackson

    Trump would be praised from sea to shining sea and across western Europe as the great statesman of our times.

    That would be consistent with the usual modus operandi, but I’ve detected changes in the way things are being done. It seems to me that the mafiosi are getting a clue that they need to calm down a bit and not be so brazen. I even detect it here at UR where the most mouthy and flashy trolls have pretty much left the building and now we have the trolls who seem to be following Trump’s methods, i.e., say what we dumb goyim want to hear, get our sympathy, then oh, so very cleverly, try to sow doubt and slip in the usual propaganda.

    Trump’s economic policy supposedly is built around one lodestar — repatriating American industry.

    Key word is “supposedly.” I don’t see how it could happen because the US seems to have a shrortage of workers as it is with the aging baby boomers leaving the workforce.

    The bottom line for me is to not even listen to what they say. If we’re not on the inside, we’re simply out in the dark; we just do not know what they’re doing or going to do in a specific sense. We do know some of what’s been done in the past and that’s the best we’ll ever have. So all we can do is extrapolate or just guess.

    Anyway, Trump is a master of bluster and even granting him good intentions, there’s only so much he can do.

  121. @Harold Smith

    Moreover, Clinton, as evil as she is, to her credit at least wears her evil on her sleeve, whereas Duplicitous Don had to completely misrepresent himself with his faux America first rhetoric to even have a chance to win.

    Yeah, it’s very apparent that the loathsome She Hyena had too much baggage, was too dull, and had nowhere near the blackmail potential of someone with fresh messages and a clean slate so to speak. Besides, Trump is much more of a showman than the shrieking, cackling, man-eating, wench could ever pretend to be. Dazzling the dupes seems to have a high success rate in such games as we’re addressing, and the despicable old bag was as exciting as used tissue paper, while Donnie Boy at least knows how to mouth off entertainingly and it seems to never wear thin for the true believers.

    I myself am quite astounded at the faith being exhibited in such an obviously corrupt system and its players, by otherwise reasonable people. They even overlook his unctuous and sappy praise for all things Izzy.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  122. Reformulation of Pat’s question:

    IS JOHN BOLTON A FILTHY FUCKING COCKROACH?

  123. “I myself am quite astounded at the faith being exhibited in such an obviously corrupt system and its players, by otherwise reasonable people.”

    Exactly.

    I admit that I voted for Teflon Don on a gamble. Then on April 7, 2017, Teflon Don betrayed me when he made himself a mass-murdering war criminal. I knew immediately that it was all over. It was finished. Period. The end. Yes, he had fooled me (and millions of others), but I’m not ashamed that I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt, under the circumstances, because he only fooled me ONCE, so shame on him.

    So I ask: How did that gratuitous, reckless act of mass murder (which also risked war with Russia) escape the consideration of so many other Trump supporters? I keep pointing out to them that mass-murderer Charles Manson didn’t make America great again with his sick agenda, nor will mass-murdering war criminal Teflon Don make America great again with his sick agenda. And it bounces off of them like bullets bounce off Superman. By logical extension of their “reasoning” maybe we should be asking the Green River killer to build us “a wall” to protect America from illegal aliens, etc.

    Anyway, now we see where Teflon Don is pulling out of the INF treaty (apparently without any meaningful political opposition whatsoever), and the implications are obviously terrifying, yet the apologists ignore that. Instead, we’re encouraged to dwell on the recent rumor that someone somewhere thought they heard Teflon Don whisper something to someone else, something along the lines of “he really, really, really wants to get out of NATO…Hallelujah!

    Words fail me.

    • Replies: @Realist
  124. JamesinNM says:

    Pray for Christ’s return and the destruction of all evil.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  125. Trump, Jared, Bolton and Pompeo

    I see you a bit confused in this Question:

    the pharisee (liberal zionist) hate Trump;
    but the sadducees (zionist) love Trump

  126. Said in an even clearer way:

    Hillary was the candidate of the Pharisees
    Trump was the candidate of the Sadducees

    Flip the Coin and …

    -heads, I win
    -tails, You lose

  127. Rurik says:
    @jacques sheete

    They even overlook his unctuous and sappy praise for all things Izzy.

    OK gentlemen,

    I respect your opinions regarding the possibility that Trump’s entire persona/intentions are a ruse.

    I accept the very real possibility that such a thing is possible, but I’m not 100% convinced of it.

    There are just too many glaring reasons for postulating that Trump is not a Deepstate operative.

    He got us out of Paris; the ultimate swindle of the Fiend to enslave the planet to their tax scheme, which really boils down to the power to tax every breath, depending on whose breath it is, so that the ((PTB)) could equalize the planet’s people.

    He got us out of TPP

    He ended the Syrian debacle, at least as far as he could, with the ((media)) and kosher politicians screeching at every step.

    Yes, he sent a few Tomahawk into a deserted base in Syria, after he had clearly warned the Russians and others to get to safety, and I read that six people died in the attack, and that was of course a war crime, but considering the war crimes committed all over the place these days, and considering the quantitative difference between six tragic lives, vs. what Hillary and Obama had done by destroying Libya and plunging Syria into a murderous hell on earth, not to mention the Bush crime families serial war crimes and atrocities, six lives, while tragic and unforgivable, are a tiny fraction of what we would be witnessing under a Hillary regime.

    In fact the thing that mortified me most, wasn’t so much the nominal attack, as much as the symbolism of the date of the attack. April 6, 2017. One hundred years to the day, that America declared war on Germany. These anniversaries are not lost on the Kabbalistic Satanists running our foreign policy (and nearly everything else). For days after that attack I was irked on some deep and spiritual level. I functioned, but something in my gut wrenched. It took a lot of time before I accepted that Trump is not going to bomb Syria into the stone age, and then start looking at Iran/Russia. His decisions during that time, up to and including today, have given me some small shred of hope.

    Of course he praises all things Izzy. What national politican doesn’t?

    Look at Rand there at the wall, all solemn and reverential.

    Look at how they all gush and genuflect. Even Tucker Carlson, the closest thing to a woke media personality even checks his words.

    The ZUS ship of state is like a tectonic geological plate, shifting under massive pressures coming from several different directions. It’s has been under its current course ever since they perpetrated their coup in 1963, when they assassinated JFK.

    It is not as easy as issuing an executive order and demanding that the Pentagon reverse course, and begin bringing the troops home immediately. If Trump did so, he knows that he’d lose all media and government support, including massive percentages of the American electorate, who’ve become addicted to the lucre flowing out of the MIC, and into their respective slop trough$.

    It is a tortured and difficult process to reverse the course America has been on for over half a century.

    Many more people will die, than those six or twelve Syrian nationals. Who, I bet you, if you asked them..

    ‘Would you sacrifice your life in order that Syria, and your children and relatives might one day be free of ISIS, and see Syria once again intact, with Assad at the helm, and have hope for a normal life?

    What do you suppose they’d say?

    How many Syrian men sacrificed their lives fighting the head slicing orcs of ISIS?

    How many more are going to die freeing the Golan Heights from the fiends that occupy it?

    It is beyond tragic over there, but what is inspiring is the changes, however slow and faltering.

    Today there is hope in Syria, and I bet just that is more than many Syrian men ever hoped to achieve, as they battled (and died) fighting the (Saudi and Zionist/Obama/Hillary’s) head-slicing orcs.

    Right now, all eyes are on the Golan Heights.

    Which way, Mr. President?

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    , @NoseytheDuke
  128. Anastasia says:
    @Harold Smith

    His first fault is putting those maniacs in power. Right before he bombed Syria he made an announcement that they would no longer seek to remove Assad. Trump is not to be trusted. Will he lose his supporters? Only about 25 percent are anti war and even among those, most are pusillanimous in their opposition

  129. FLgeezer says:
    @Rurik

    Great post as usual Rurik. Many thanks.

    • Agree: gsjackson
  130. Rich says:
    @Harold Smith

    I wonder if you had anything interesting or original to say, all I saw was “orange clown, orange clown, orange clown” blah, blah blah. Write something interesting.

  131. @Rurik

    what Hillary and Obama had done by destroying Libya and plunging Syria into a murderous hell on earth

    You forgot to mention Ukraine, but you’re right and it’s much, much too early to judge the Trump presidency at this time.

  132. “much too early to judge the Trump presidency at this time”

    LOL

    + Jared + Bolton + Pompeo = Trump, the real Trump

    How frighteningly simple it is to deceive people with oppositions

    in USA

    Democratic Party =

    + Wall Street
    + warmongers
    + 80% zionist of rabbinical ancestry
    + tiny left

    Republican Party =

    + zionist of roman/christian ancestry
    + warmongers
    + 20% zionist of rabbinical ancestry
    + white nationalism
    + tiny conservatives

  133. Dear Ganea al-Ahmed,

    We’re sorry about the loss of your husband (and the other four soldiers and nine civilians), but you know these unfortunate things sometimes happen in the course of our hopeless pursuit of world domination and control.

    We hope that you can take some consolation in the fact that our sitting jew puppet ruler, orange clown, is apparently considerably less violent than some of the other wannabe puppet rulers, e.g., Clinton, thus it could’ve been much worse.

    Warmest regards,
    Shlomo Shitstein

  134. anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    who would not bother allying with the untermensch, be they Arabs or other ethnicities

    Not true at all. They will ally with anybody, covertly or overtly, with whomever they can manipulate and control.

    As a small example, given their rabid supremacism, how else can one explain their ass-licking of those cow-worshipping “dot-ni**as”?

    I am of course simply highlighting how those supremacists must be viewing those primitive animal-worshippers.

    But then, there is also the probability that the meeting of minds (and presumably bodies) is because those kikes too are descendants of calf-worshippers?

    Braindead phucking pagans!!

  135. anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @JamesinNM

    and the destruction of all evil.

    And, why exactly would you wish ill on your own civilisation, pray tell?

  136. anon1 says:
    @follyofwar

    …being glib makes one appear more intelligent then they are…

    I believe this is true. Acting confident is also important. Studies show people irrationally assume confidence and competence are synonymous. They are not.

    See “Solving the African IQ conundrum: “Winning personality masks low scores”.

  137. Realist says:
    @Harold Smith

    I admit that I voted for Teflon Don on a gamble. Then on April 7, 2017, Teflon Don betrayed me when he made himself a mass-murdering war criminal.

    I had the same experience.

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