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Of President Donald Trump’s explosion at Angela Merkel’s Germany during the NATO summit, it needs to be said: It is long past time we raised our voices.

America pays more for NATO, an alliance created 69 years ago to defend Europe, than do the Europeans. And as Europe free-rides off our defense effort, the EU runs trade surpluses at our expense that exceed $100 billion a year.

To Trump, and not only to him, we are being used, gouged, by rich nations we defend, while they skimp on their own defense.

At Brussels, Trump had a new beef with the Germans, though similar problems date back to the Reagan era. Now we see the Germans, Trump raged, whom we are protecting from Russia, collaborating with Russia and deepening their dependence on Russian natural gas by jointly building the Nord Stream 2 pipeline under the Baltic Sea.

When completed, this pipeline will leave Germany and Europe even more deeply reliant on Russia for their energy needs.

To Trump, this makes no sense. While we pay the lion’s share of the cost of Germany’s defense, Germany, he said in Brussels, is becoming “a captive of Russia.”

Impolitic? Perhaps. But is Trump wrong? While much of what he says enrages Western elites, does not much of it need saying?

Germany spends 1.2 percent of its gross domestic product on defense, while the U.S. spends 3.5 percent. Why?

Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?

Before departing Brussels, Trump upped the ante on the allies, urging that all NATO nations raise the share of their GDPs that they devote to defense to 4 percent.

Brussels may dismiss this as typical Trumpian bluster, but my sense is that Trump is not bluffing. He is visibly losing patience.

Though American leaders since John Foster Dulles in the 1950s have called for a greater defense effort from our allies, if the Europeans do not get serious this time, it could be the beginning of the end for NATO.

And not only NATO. South Korea, with an economy 40 times that of North Korea, spends 2.6 percent of its GDP on defense, while, by one estimate, North Korea spends 22 percent, the highest share on earth.

Japan, with the world’s third-largest economy, spends an even smaller share of its GDP on defense than Germany, 0.9 percent.

Thus, though Seoul and Tokyo are far more menaced by a nuclear-armed North Korea and a rising China, like the Europeans, both continue to rely upon us as they continue to run large trade surpluses with us.

We get hit both ways. We send troops and pay billions for their defense, while they restrict our access to their markets and focus on capturing U.S. markets from American producers.

We are giving the world a lesson in how great powers decline.

America’s situation is unsustainable economically and politically, and it’s transparently intolerable to Trump, who does not appear to be a turn-the-other-cheek sort of fellow.

A frustrated Trump has already hinted he may accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea as he accepted Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem.

And he appears earnest about reducing our massive trade deficits in goods that have been bleeding jobs, plants, equipment, capital and technology abroad.

The latest tariffs Trump has proposed, on $200 billion worth of Chinese-made goods, would raise the price of 40 percent of China’s exports to the U.S. and begin to shrink the $375 billion trade surplus Beijing ran in 2017.

ORDER IT NOW

Trump said upon departing Brussels he had won new commitments to raise European contributions to NATO. But Emmanuel Macron of France seemed to contradict him. The commitments made before the summit, for all NATO nations to reach 2 percent of GDP for defense by 2024, said Macron, stand, and no new commitments were made.

As for Trump’s call for a 4 percent defense effort by all, it was ignored. Hence the question: If Trump does not get his way and the allies hold to their previous schedule of defense commitments, what does he do?

One idea Trump floated last week was the threat of a drawdown of the 35,000 U.S. troops in Germany. But would this really rattle the Germans?

A new poll shows that a plurality of Germans favor a drawdown of U.S. troops, and only 15 percent believe that Germany should raise its defense spending to 2 percent of GDP.

While Trump’s pressure on NATO to contribute more is popular here, apparently Merkel’s resistance comports with German opinion.

Since exiting the Iranian nuclear deal, President Trump has demanded that our European allies join the U.S. in reimposing sanctions. Now he is demanding that the Europeans contribute more to defense.

What does he do if they defy us? More than likely, we will find out.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. pyrrhus says:

    What crisis? Withdraw from NATO, let the Europeans defend themselves if they feel the necessity, and bring American troops home….Preferably to be stationed on the border.

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    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Rurik

    Withdraw from NATO, let the Europeans defend themselves if they feel the necessity, and bring American troops home….Preferably to be stationed on the border.
     
    I see six million wasn't enough for you.

    If it weren't for the zio-troops occupying their country, would Germans be so sanguine about a Muslim/African invasion/transformation of their ancient nation?

    When the mantra of "Never again!', is said, how can that ever be believed when Germans are allowed to cling to their ethnicity and identity?!

    For ((hope)) for the future, all Germans (and N. Americans and all other White people) MUST be blended away in a sea of brown and black and yellow!

    Anyone who says otherwise is only a dormant Nazi waiting to fire up the gas chambers.

    Duh
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  2. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    To Trump, and not only to him, we are being used, gouged, by rich nations we defend, while they skimp on their own defense.

    Defense against whom? Russia? Commies? Tell me another one. The real invasions aren’t being defended against, and they involve million upon million of third-world refuse flooding into previously-civilised nations.

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    • Replies: @Per/Norway
    and never mind that it is the U.S and nato`s (w/help from traitors in Euro govs) fault we are being overrunned by barbarians, so the way i see it we we have payed more then enough for the "protection".
    nato is a racket just like every U.S/European war have been for a loong time.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    AMEN x 1000
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  3. Duncan says:

    Many people have stated the American empire is killing the country.
    Fred Reed recently wrote an article just how intertwined the military is with the rest of the country.
    America can’t afford a defunct NATO. The military industrial complex is too large and too important to the corporate elite, banks and politicians to loose.
    I see no change in the status quo.

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    America can’t afford a defunct NATO. The military industrial complex is too large and too important to the corporate elite, banks and politicians to loose.
     
    America's, (as in the American people's) biggest enemy are the "corporate elite, banks and politicians". If the American people should be fighting a deadly war, it ought to be against the treasonous scum like Paul Ryan, and his patron Sheldon Adelson. Not to mention the thieves and swindlers at Goldman Sachs, et al.

    when the American people are taxed to fund their own dispossession and slavery, perhaps it's time to reconsider the terms of our social contract.
    , @Them Guys
    Why can't defense companies, Re-tool to make products . Of an equal to usa defense spendings, minus of course a Reasonable amount to Remain as defense budget to defend us from attacks etc. Make different products related to a massive new nationwide Infrastructures rebuilding?


    During WWII, most Every American factory, tool and die shops, every related small-med.-large factories Re-tooled to switch gears and supply usa+allied nations with vast sources of war materials and vehicles and weaponery/ammos. And did it very Fast too. Same can be done to fix usa.

    Us baby boom gen's Parents and Grandparents Built and Paid via fed taxes, For most everything America currently has called Roads-Bridges-various tax paid schools-govnt offices-etc. etc.

    And all those loons and libertarians who insist it all needs go Private owned, such as toll roads and toll freeways in order to have great roads, and better managed freeways etc...Forget that.

    We Actual American Citizens Born and Raised in usa...We own every fuckin piece of usa infrastructure and every acre of far too much fed lands and parks...We Own it All.

    We should not need pay toll road fees just to drive on freeways built and paid for by our parents and grand parents...Plus ever since we/you got a driver lic at age 16, and a car to drive, we/you has paid continuously massive road-tax-fees imbedded within every single gallon of gas and diesel fuel you ever bought to drive that car. It is aprox $1.00 Tax combined, fed/state tax per gallon.

    And Every Cent we have been paying for as long as 50+ years of such road use tax, add in also, road use tax per every years vehicle reg and lic plate tabs....All of it was supposed to pay for road Repairs...New roads..Bridges repair or new bridges built. And all other related taxpayer funded stuff related to road tax on gas etc.

    Sooooooo...Why the fuck is most usa roads so messed up with even several overpass bridges collapsing in last decade? Killing hundreds at time of collapse.

    I will tell you why....Because between all that extra expenses fed gov of Our America, pays enormous amounts to other nations every where. Especially Israel. And even greater yet expense for worldwide 800+ Army Bases...Latest bases built in last 6 mo's in Israel (first ever usa army base in Israel) and Syria. Maybe in Africa too(?).

    Maybe Pats article has it all Backwards...Maybe its ziousa hijacked fed govnt. That so desires to keep a huge NATO and every/more yet, military assets and bases global wide?

    Why was None of our Greatest Generation Elder's ever able to give a good answer, when ever guys like Me asked the question of:.."Hey uncle Joe, why did America become allies with Kommie Russia in WWII, only to as soon as wwii ended, declare soviet Russia as cold war enemy number One?"

    Best answers they provided were something like, "Well Them Guys, Back then wwii the usa fed gov just Had to....Do...Something"...Ok uncle Joey, but what about After war ended? Why were Russian kommies A-OK then yet Not a-ok less than a year once war ended"..."Well Them Guys just as back Then they just Had to do something....Once ended and into todays eras, They just Must do something!"


    Thats how the Geatest Duped Gen got hosed and scammed to fully agree and never make waves on any and all fed laws or agendas or policies ever done to Date...Just tell them duped so badly that.


    "Well...They (means fed gov aka ziojewry/anglozios) Have to do Something! Any thing as long as it is...something! So before we was old enough to vote, they sure did something alright, they totally Wasted $50-Trillion on prior named reasons, ie. other nations and war and mic, Plus probably half that amount Wasted worse yet on, trying to "Raise them colored folk Up by Their Boot Straps" agendas...which really means, give savage ghetto negro's tons free grant cash to attend college plus extra cash to Pay extra spelling and reading teachers and mentors to teach stupid monkeys how to read while already In college classes....Plus more $$ yet wasted on massive bribes to coloreds so they wont go all ape shit crazy and loot-riot-burn down cities every where….How's that worked out?


    Even when no wwii era folks are left alive in usa, you will never convince most of boomers gen or millenials gen that they, are stuck in past era and cannot admit both jew world wars were Not good things at all...Not needed, should have never happened and even if did usa should have remained Out, except for actual attacks on america...But nobody whos jewized up and War-wized up, can ever convince elder gen nor most boomer gen and boomer gens kids.


    This is totally due to massive pro "greatest generation" wwii and "Last good war we fought" propagandas 24/7 our entire lives. And combined with cold war scare fears of "Must remain at Constant alert folks"!


    Why constant alert?..Because our best buddy russian soviet bolshevik kommie reds,of wwii, became instantly public enemy number one at wars end, and may strike us at home in usa any moment now!....Thats why every kid must learn..."Duck & Cover"!! Hide under school desk and wrap arms around head and wait for teacher instructions...


    Best ever thing I did was quit school once I learned all I need know of three-R's. But most remained in school, went to colleges and boy did the scammers and gov swindlers get their hooks into them deep eh....Today barley any can be convinced that just maybe greatest gen was Not so great, but were really so duped and scammed. They cannot accept it and are unable to view parents or grand parents any other way but Grrrreatest gens period...I understand folks wanting to view parents in good light eh...Me too so do I with My grand parents and parents...But it is what it is and greatest Duped fits much better I say.


    America and whitey europe wasted an entire one hundred years a whole century of wars galore, still today more wars than can count, and No end in sight, while infrastructures crumble and usa turns 3rd world shit hole nation.


    I want My/Our fair share, My/Our "whitey Privilidges", My/Our freeways smooth flat and pot hole free, and a return to white majority...Like when kids and it was 90% whiteys. And Nobody can convince Me it wasn't much better all around back then in America.


    When is enough whiteys going to really get fed up enough to actually do...Something! similar to how greeat gen had to do something, anything!?
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  4. swede55 says:

    The U.S. should cut it’s military spending to 2% of GDP. Of course, that would mean giving up on ruling the world and would reduce the U.S. military capability to be the bullyboy for the NWO.

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  5. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Mr. Buchanan so long in Washington that he can ask this question in good faith?

    “Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?”

    Uncle Sam has never been and isn’t there to defend anyone.

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    But we're not getting money's worth with these western European countries, and the grace period is running out real fast.
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  6. Paying to defend our “allies” and suffering trade deficits with them is the price we pay to keep sticking our nose in their affairs and treat them like vassal states while we try to run the world. If we don’t like bearing these costs, then we should scale back our global ambitions and try playing nice with the other kids in the sandbox while we focus on actually defending our own territory.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    { If we don’t like bearing these costs,.....}

    As Tanto said: 'What do you mean "We", white man.'

    There are two "we"s here: as far as I know "we" the taxpayers don't have any global ambitions.
    My neighbors, friends, coworkers, etc worry about their jobs, the cost of gasoline, food, mortgage rates, high rents, worry about their families, their personal problems/health, their kids,.....

    "We" the rulers - the MIC, the banksters, the globalist corporations, etc - love meddling all over the world, love making trouble, love manufacturing enemies......because that's how they can justify every increasing military and 'security/intelligence'* (sic) expenditures. The taxpayers are constantly kept in fear by MSM propaganda, and if that doesn't work, somehow or other real terrorist attacks happen, even when intelligence agencies are warned about them well in advance, as e.g. the Boston Marathon bombing.

    I was watching Trump and May presser today, and sure enough he was asked "When you meet Putin, are you going to bring up the occupation (sic) of Crimea?", as if the average American taxpayer knows where Crimea is, much less gives a hoot about it.

    This is how the MSM manufactures 'crises' and starts braying for global meddling and intervention.

    One donkey starts braying and then the rest join in, and pretty soon we have a so-called 'consensus'. Then comes..... "Mr President, there is consensus that United States should do something about such-n-such or so-n-so. What are you going to do about it?"

    __________________
    * US has, what, 17 intelligence agencies (!) and they could not detect and stop 9/11.
    About 3,000 innocent civilians were killed. As far as I know nobody got fired or an agency got shut down for failing at their given task. Every time they fail, they get larger budgets.

    Bush even gave that effing incompetent Tenet a Presidential Medal of Freedom (apparently if you fail at your intelligence job and get ~3,000 people killed, you get a Medal in US).
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  7. NATO has nothing to do with the defense of Europe. It is tool for the Lockheeds to sell their products to European governments.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    NATO has nothing to do with the defense of Europe.
    It's a tool for Europe to get more US taxpayers money.

    And considering how little Europe spends, I rather doubt they buy a lot of Lockheed products.

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  8. American government imagines itself as that “shining city upon a hill,” a phrase lifted from Matthew 5:14 in the Jew Testament. So it’s no surprise that a Jew-addled government tries to further emulate the Jewish ideal of globalism. The International Jew Jesus couldn’t abide leaving any nation of the world unassailed by his tikkun olam, (Matthew 28:19, Luke 24:47) and neither can his slavish thralls.

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  9. Mike P says:

    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

    West Germany used to spend a similar percentage on defence as the U.S. does now, and the quality of its troops and armaments (while far from perfect) was as good as or better than the U.S. troops of that time. Why has it changed? Because of NATO “defence” strategy. At the time, the mission was clear and limited – defence against a possible Soviet attack. However, after the Soviet Union collapsed, all of a sudden the Germans got roped into senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan.

    The wilful neglect of the German army is a form of passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. Why should Germans want to fight and die anyway for the privilege of remaining a ZUSA colony, as opposed to becoming a Russian one? Germany’s economic future clearly lies with Eurasia, not with the West. The Germans and other Euros are just keeping their heads down while they wait for the ZUSA empire to collapse. Meanwhile, Trump doesn’t care about their “defence” but instead only about levying troops for renewed adventures.

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    Maybe Trump's strategy is also a passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. He's openly calling for NATO to pay up, yet is internally hoping that they don't. Then he has plausible deniability of his true intentions. The DeepZOG State is still strong. (((Adelson))) still funds the GOP, (((Mercer))) still has Ryan bought, and many of Trump's base believe "we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews." (((John 4:22))) He's walking a tightrope.
    , @vetran

    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

     

    Indeed... His view are contaminated by the "exceptionalism" mindset.
    Indeed NATO has outlived is life shelf and purpose. Even Trump acknowledged that during the campaign, saying NATO was obsolete.
    European should not pay for the US military occupation ... or even better : disband NATO and its bases on European soil.
    , @Joe Stalin
    " senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan."

    Well hell, exactly how much "adventure" did Germany engage in Afghanistan anyway?

    57 KIA, 249 WIA (Soldiers, Police).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_casualties_in_Afghanistan

    So much for German "adventure" over the 17 years. Not even one Leopard tank to show for their "adventure" there.
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  10. WHAT says:

    Lol, you have to be properly delusional(or a murritard, but I repeat myself) to believe that NATO is:
    a)protecting anything
    b)exists for the benefit of Europe

    The only actual NATO beneficiary trying to pose as a victim of le ebil `stache twirling Euros not willing to pay for “defence” could produce only derisive laughter.

    Donnie can scream all he wants, Germany knows well who her real energy partner is, under Merkel or whomever.

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  11. Germany spends 1.2 percent of its gross domestic product on defense, while the U.S. spends 3.5 percent. Why?

    Why? Obviously Germany is FORCING “us” to spend 3.5 percent. China suggested we solve the problem by cutting defense spending. Duh.

    Imperial Washington is not doing anybody any favors excepting Israel and the MIC. Nobody owes “us” anything.

    I hope Trump will get “us” out of NATO and out of Germany. And out of Korea and Japan and out of the Middle East and out of Africa and out of Venezuela etc. etc. The whole world will be a better place when the Zempire repatriates its legions.

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  12. @Mike P
    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

    West Germany used to spend a similar percentage on defence as the U.S. does now, and the quality of its troops and armaments (while far from perfect) was as good as or better than the U.S. troops of that time. Why has it changed? Because of NATO "defence" strategy. At the time, the mission was clear and limited - defence against a possible Soviet attack. However, after the Soviet Union collapsed, all of a sudden the Germans got roped into senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan.

    The wilful neglect of the German army is a form of passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. Why should Germans want to fight and die anyway for the privilege of remaining a ZUSA colony, as opposed to becoming a Russian one? Germany's economic future clearly lies with Eurasia, not with the West. The Germans and other Euros are just keeping their heads down while they wait for the ZUSA empire to collapse. Meanwhile, Trump doesn't care about their "defence" but instead only about levying troops for renewed adventures.

    Maybe Trump’s strategy is also a passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. He’s openly calling for NATO to pay up, yet is internally hoping that they don’t. Then he has plausible deniability of his true intentions. The DeepZOG State is still strong. (((Adelson))) still funds the GOP, (((Mercer))) still has Ryan bought, and many of Trump’s base believe “we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.” (((John 4:22))) He’s walking a tightrope.

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    You may be right - taken at face value, Trump's various gambits certainly don't add up to a coherent strategy, so maybe his true intentions are quite different from stated ones. However, Buchanan did take Trump literally, and I was responding to that take.
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  13. Mike P says:
    @Echoes of History
    Maybe Trump's strategy is also a passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. He's openly calling for NATO to pay up, yet is internally hoping that they don't. Then he has plausible deniability of his true intentions. The DeepZOG State is still strong. (((Adelson))) still funds the GOP, (((Mercer))) still has Ryan bought, and many of Trump's base believe "we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews." (((John 4:22))) He's walking a tightrope.

    You may be right – taken at face value, Trump’s various gambits certainly don’t add up to a coherent strategy, so maybe his true intentions are quite different from stated ones. However, Buchanan did take Trump literally, and I was responding to that take.

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    • Replies: @Echoes of History
    I hope I'm right. And hope is a virtue, is it not? :)

    "Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1

     

    Of course, I've no blessed assurance, i.e. faith, that Trump is actually doing what I hope. But, I've already got everything from Trump that I voted for: the first Supreme was pro-2A. Whenever Trump fails in his other campaign promises, that was what I predicted anyway. Anything he delivers on top of pro-2A Gorsuch is just gravy on my plate.

    Which reminds me, I need to buy another 1000 round case of .223 that just came on sale. Thank you, Glorious Trump.
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  14. Rurik says:

    Germans, Trump raged, whom we are protecting from Russia,

    “we are protecting from Russia”

    yea, right

    more like a pimp telling a rival pimp not to fuck with his bitch

    While we pay the lion’s share of the cost of Germany’s defense

    this is like Israel complaining about having to provide protection to Gaza.

    Germany is and has been under ZUS occupation for generations now. Forcing them to pay for NATO, is demanding they pay for their own occupation. A humiliating farce.

    Germany spends 1.2 percent of its gross domestic product on defense, while the U.S. spends 3.5 percent. Why?

    because Germany is a colony of the ZUS empire. Duh.

    There is zero benefit to Germany (or to the American people) for the serial wars and atrocities that we pay for with that 3.5 percent. Calling it defense spending is Orwellian. It is and has been since WWI, offensive and murderous spending on behalf of America’s enemy; Israel. Even before Israel existed, Americans (and Germans) were dying on its behalf in the trenches of Europe.

    Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?

    Okay, whew

    Pat is showing his wry side again. This sentence demonstrates that Pat (surreptitiously) agrees with everything I’m saying. The whole notion that Germany needs defending from Putin’s Russia is an insulting buffoonery.

    it could be the beginning of the end for NATO.

    we can only pray

    he may accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea

    good!

    would raise the price of 40 percent of China’s exports to the U.S.

    Very good!!

    A new poll shows that a plurality of Germans favor a drawdown of U.S. troops,

    good!

    we’ve been occupying them since 1945. It’s way past time for Germany to assert it’s self-determination. They should ally themselves with Putin’s Russia, and the nascent resurgence of sanity and hope in countries like Hungary, Austria, Poland and others.

    They should tell the ZUS to ‘fuck off’ when it comes to sanctions on Iran or Russia.

    NATO should be disbanded at once. It is nothing more than a cash cow and rabid dog of Zion. Menacing any and all who don’t bow to Rothschild’s central banks and Israel’s serial rapine.

    What does he do if they defy us? More than likely, we will find out.

    NATO is a relic. Perhaps it would be fitting if Trump were to officially end the US participation with NATO on the same day John McCain goes to meet his long overdue reward.

    Both creatures are blood-stained abominations upon mankind’s dubious reputation, and the ZUS’s in particular.

    When the treasonous scum McCain, finally descends down to hell, just think how serendipitous it would be to also end NATO on the same day!

    Two institutions known as black-holes of blood-spattered corruption and greed. The stench of death upon them both.

    Good riddance and rot in hell, all NATO generals and Lindsey Graham and Max Boot and all the rest of the putrid human pus, that is NATO and McCain.

    Let the entire world savor a giant and amazing sigh of great happiness and hope, on the day we all celebrate the death of two giant, towering grotesqueries to human dignity and life.

    Keep your pen at hand, Mr. President. That gasping, choking sound we’re all listening to, with cheer in our hearts and buoyant spirits, is the sound of a demon finally croaking his last, execrable breaths.

    Be ready with the announcement and executive order, so that humanity’s anniversary, will always be a universal day of great happiness and celebration.

    the blessed day approaches!

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  15. vetran says:
    @Mike P
    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

    West Germany used to spend a similar percentage on defence as the U.S. does now, and the quality of its troops and armaments (while far from perfect) was as good as or better than the U.S. troops of that time. Why has it changed? Because of NATO "defence" strategy. At the time, the mission was clear and limited - defence against a possible Soviet attack. However, after the Soviet Union collapsed, all of a sudden the Germans got roped into senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan.

    The wilful neglect of the German army is a form of passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. Why should Germans want to fight and die anyway for the privilege of remaining a ZUSA colony, as opposed to becoming a Russian one? Germany's economic future clearly lies with Eurasia, not with the West. The Germans and other Euros are just keeping their heads down while they wait for the ZUSA empire to collapse. Meanwhile, Trump doesn't care about their "defence" but instead only about levying troops for renewed adventures.

    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

    Indeed… His view are contaminated by the “exceptionalism” mindset.
    Indeed NATO has outlived is life shelf and purpose. Even Trump acknowledged that during the campaign, saying NATO was obsolete.
    European should not pay for the US military occupation … or even better : disband NATO and its bases on European soil.

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  16. @Mike P
    You may be right - taken at face value, Trump's various gambits certainly don't add up to a coherent strategy, so maybe his true intentions are quite different from stated ones. However, Buchanan did take Trump literally, and I was responding to that take.

    I hope I’m right. And hope is a virtue, is it not? :)

    “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.” Hebrews 11:1

    Of course, I’ve no blessed assurance, i.e. faith, that Trump is actually doing what I hope. But, I’ve already got everything from Trump that I voted for: the first Supreme was pro-2A. Whenever Trump fails in his other campaign promises, that was what I predicted anyway. Anything he delivers on top of pro-2A Gorsuch is just gravy on my plate.

    Which reminds me, I need to buy another 1000 round case of .223 that just came on sale. Thank you, Glorious Trump.

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  17. Anon[173] • Disclaimer says:

    We are giving the world a lesson in how great powers decline.

    American Empire is based on largess.

    Sure, EU and Asian satellites don’t pay their share and run trade surpluses.

    But, that is the price the US pays for keeping them as vassal states that have surrendered any meaningful national sovereignty.

    German, Japan, France, South Korea, Sweden, Ireland, etc are running dogs of the US.
    Americans pay but they obey.

    Old Empires ruled by terror and force.
    US empire rules by payment and protection.

    If Asians and Europeans get no perks from being vassal states, why would they remain in the empire?

    It’s like you have the feed the dog to make it obey you.

    America’s situation is unsustainable economically and politically, and it’s transparently intolerable to Trump, who does not appear to be a turn-the-other-cheek sort of fellow.

    I’m for ending NATO and bringing US troops from Asian, but the empire is sustainable because the US land produces so much wealth from the ground. Foods, oils, minerals, lumber, and etc. Wealth grows in America. US wealth is self-sustaining and self-generating. Not true for Germany and Japan.

    Brits and French could be great powers only with empires. Same with Romans. Without empires, they were only local powers. US is an empire unto itself and would be a great world power even without overseas empire.

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    US wealth is self-sustaining and self-generating.
     
    only as long as the rest of the world continues to pretend that there's any intrinsic value to the ZU$ Fecal Reserve Note.

    The day they stop accepting the paper, fiat dollar, is the day America's 'wealth' (and power) die it's long overdue ignoble death.
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  18. Realist says:

    We get hit both ways. We send troops and pay billions for their defense, while they restrict our access to their markets and focus on capturing U.S. markets from American producers.

    That’s the price of world hegemony. We’re not paying for their defense….we are paying to keep China, Russia, North Korea and other countries who threaten our world dominance from gaining such dominance. If NATO countries along with Japan and South Korea start paying for their own defense and close American bases on their soil….that’s the end of American world hegemony not to mention a big kick in the ass for the Deep State.

    A frustrated Trump has already hinted he may accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea as he accepted Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem.

    In the first case, how magnanimous of Trump since there is not a chance in hell Russia will give up Crimea whose citizens voted overwhelmingly to become part of Russia.
    In the second case Trump did not accept Israel’s annexation of Jerusalem…he crusaded for it

    One idea Trump floated last week was the threat of a drawdown of the 35,000 U.S. troops in Germany. But would this really rattle the Germans?

    If Germans have any intelligence they would realize that getting rid of American troops on their soil would allow them autonomy for the first time in 73 years.

    Since exiting the Iranian nuclear deal, President Trump has demanded that our European allies join the U.S. in reimposing sanctions. Now he is demanding that the Europeans contribute more to defense.

    If they’re smart they will tell him ‘in your hat’.

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  19. Rurik says:
    @pyrrhus
    What crisis? Withdraw from NATO, let the Europeans defend themselves if they feel the necessity, and bring American troops home....Preferably to be stationed on the border.

    Withdraw from NATO, let the Europeans defend themselves if they feel the necessity, and bring American troops home….Preferably to be stationed on the border.

    I see six million wasn’t enough for you.

    If it weren’t for the zio-troops occupying their country, would Germans be so sanguine about a Muslim/African invasion/transformation of their ancient nation?

    When the mantra of “Never again!’, is said, how can that ever be believed when Germans are allowed to cling to their ethnicity and identity?!

    For ((hope)) for the future, all Germans (and N. Americans and all other White people) MUST be blended away in a sea of brown and black and yellow!

    Anyone who says otherwise is only a dormant Nazi waiting to fire up the gas chambers.

    Duh

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  20. Rurik says:
    @Duncan
    Many people have stated the American empire is killing the country.
    Fred Reed recently wrote an article just how intertwined the military is with the rest of the country.
    America can't afford a defunct NATO. The military industrial complex is too large and too important to the corporate elite, banks and politicians to loose.
    I see no change in the status quo.

    America can’t afford a defunct NATO. The military industrial complex is too large and too important to the corporate elite, banks and politicians to loose.

    America’s, (as in the American people’s) biggest enemy are the “corporate elite, banks and politicians”. If the American people should be fighting a deadly war, it ought to be against the treasonous scum like Paul Ryan, and his patron Sheldon Adelson. Not to mention the thieves and swindlers at Goldman Sachs, et al.

    when the American people are taxed to fund their own dispossession and slavery, perhaps it’s time to reconsider the terms of our social contract.

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  21. Rurik says:
    @Anon
    We are giving the world a lesson in how great powers decline.

    American Empire is based on largess.

    Sure, EU and Asian satellites don't pay their share and run trade surpluses.

    But, that is the price the US pays for keeping them as vassal states that have surrendered any meaningful national sovereignty.

    German, Japan, France, South Korea, Sweden, Ireland, etc are running dogs of the US.
    Americans pay but they obey.

    Old Empires ruled by terror and force.
    US empire rules by payment and protection.

    If Asians and Europeans get no perks from being vassal states, why would they remain in the empire?

    It's like you have the feed the dog to make it obey you.

    America’s situation is unsustainable economically and politically, and it’s transparently intolerable to Trump, who does not appear to be a turn-the-other-cheek sort of fellow.

    I'm for ending NATO and bringing US troops from Asian, but the empire is sustainable because the US land produces so much wealth from the ground. Foods, oils, minerals, lumber, and etc. Wealth grows in America. US wealth is self-sustaining and self-generating. Not true for Germany and Japan.

    Brits and French could be great powers only with empires. Same with Romans. Without empires, they were only local powers. US is an empire unto itself and would be a great world power even without overseas empire.

    US wealth is self-sustaining and self-generating.

    only as long as the rest of the world continues to pretend that there’s any intrinsic value to the ZU$ Fecal Reserve Note.

    The day they stop accepting the paper, fiat dollar, is the day America’s ‘wealth’ (and power) die it’s long overdue ignoble death.

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  22. @Anonymous

    To Trump, and not only to him, we are being used, gouged, by rich nations we defend, while they skimp on their own defense.
     
    Defense against whom? Russia? Commies? Tell me another one. The real invasions aren't being defended against, and they involve million upon million of third-world refuse flooding into previously-civilised nations.

    and never mind that it is the U.S and nato`s (w/help from traitors in Euro govs) fault we are being overrunned by barbarians, so the way i see it we we have payed more then enough for the “protection”.
    nato is a racket just like every U.S/European war have been for a loong time.

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    But if nato/isarel/usa wars are main blame for floods of "refugees"?

    Why did those Males Only for most part, leave old folks, parents, small kids, wives, women in general all remining back in war zones?

    And why with mid east regions ablaze in wars and total nationwide destructions ongoing since 2003, just recently in past few yrs become refugees? Something smells very very fishy eh?

    Why did every top EU officials and eu nations Prez's, All go to attend a huge Israeli and jewry sponsored party event held in Jerusalem about one year ago, where at, top Israeli jewish honchos and rabbis praised their combined Plan agenda to flood eu nations as well as usa with Non whiteys?

    Search Yutube videos for a 22 min video by and of Barbara Lerner Spector a jewish woman crazed zio fanatic loon, in where she fully explains the hows and whys etc and that Yes this massive flooding into Only white nations, including Canada and usa, is a Zionist jewish affair foremost and primarily....ps, she got aprox. $4+Million tax cash from Sweden for her "Non profit jew zio org" to assist in ruining and wrecking every eu state and usa and Canada.

    SEE also: Previous UNZ article on this exact same jewish created problem...Note huge Long Table in article photo showing the participant's seated at Praise-party table in Jerusalem Israel.

    No its not only a jewish and zio run agenda...Just around 97% jew is all. Rest are others.
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  23. “Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?”

    Because we know that if we allowed the Germans to rearm to the extent of their native abilities, that we could ultimately find ourselves threatened by their superior capabilities. Cheaper to pay them tribute than to find ourselves in their crosshairs.

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    Germans are a rapidly declining, aging, dying people with almost no combat-ready military equipment to speak of. They present no threat to any country of any size.

    First, the Germans are tied with Japan as the oldest people in the world, median age approaching FORTY-SEVEN and still rising.

    Second, Germans don’t have children. The TFR of all german residents is only about 1.6, compared to 2.1 needed for mere replacement. Since nonEuropeans in Germany have a higher TFR than Germans, the native german population is shrinking faster than the “national” TFR would imply.

    How would a dwindling number of Germans, HALF of them in their 50s through 80s, attack some other country?

    I’m not sure they’ll even be able to win the civil war against the Muslims and Africans in their midst on their own territory. Fifty-year-olds without guns fighting 25-year-olds usually won’t turn out well for the older combatant. Sixty- and seventy-year olds without guns fighting 35-year-olds, same kind of results.

    It’s hard to get used to Germany as a country that will be economically, militarily, politically, and culturally insignificant — not to mention not safe and not GERMAN — but that’s their obvious and fairly rapid trajectory.

    , @anon
    Ridiculous.
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  24. There is a problem with the disparity of defense spending by NATO countries – and it is the USA that is out of step.

    America could halve its defense spending and still spend more than Russia and China combined – and that’s assuming that those countries maintained their spending at the same levels. If America asked the Russians and Chinese, “what military spending would you give up, if we halved our military budget?” they might be pleasantly surprised at the answer.

    Superpower conflict is not going to happen, because all parties know it would mean the end of the world. Our present levels of military spending serve no useful purpose.

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    Europe already spends more than four times as much on "defense" as the Russians.
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  25. anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Our present levels of military spending serve no useful purpose.

    Disagree.

    There one of the necessary segments in US economy.

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    Why so we can run up another $21/$22 trillion in debt?...
    , @RadicalCenter
    The spending and the associated jobs needn’t dry up entirely, and the reduction and transition needn’t happen all in one or two years.

    We could gradually bring home troops from Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, and spend some of that imperialism money instead on a serious wall across our southern border, and a national high-speed rail system. At least have some border security and some modern infrastructure in our own country to show for it, for a change.

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  26. Avery says:
    @The Alarmist
    Paying to defend our "allies" and suffering trade deficits with them is the price we pay to keep sticking our nose in their affairs and treat them like vassal states while we try to run the world. If we don't like bearing these costs, then we should scale back our global ambitions and try playing nice with the other kids in the sandbox while we focus on actually defending our own territory.

    { If we don’t like bearing these costs,…..}

    As Tanto said: ‘What do you mean “We“, white man.’

    There are two “we”s here: as far as I know “we” the taxpayers don’t have any global ambitions.
    My neighbors, friends, coworkers, etc worry about their jobs, the cost of gasoline, food, mortgage rates, high rents, worry about their families, their personal problems/health, their kids,…..

    “We” the rulers – the MIC, the banksters, the globalist corporations, etc – love meddling all over the world, love making trouble, love manufacturing enemies……because that’s how they can justify every increasing military and ‘security/intelligence’* (sic) expenditures. The taxpayers are constantly kept in fear by MSM propaganda, and if that doesn’t work, somehow or other real terrorist attacks happen, even when intelligence agencies are warned about them well in advance, as e.g. the Boston Marathon bombing.

    I was watching Trump and May presser today, and sure enough he was asked “When you meet Putin, are you going to bring up the occupation (sic) of Crimea?”, as if the average American taxpayer knows where Crimea is, much less gives a hoot about it.

    This is how the MSM manufactures ‘crises’ and starts braying for global meddling and intervention.

    One donkey starts braying and then the rest join in, and pretty soon we have a so-called ‘consensus’. Then comes….. “Mr President, there is consensus that United States should do something about such-n-such or so-n-so. What are you going to do about it?”

    __________________
    * US has, what, 17 intelligence agencies (!) and they could not detect and stop 9/11.
    About 3,000 innocent civilians were killed. As far as I know nobody got fired or an agency got shut down for failing at their given task. Every time they fail, they get larger budgets.

    Bush even gave that effing incompetent Tenet a Presidential Medal of Freedom (apparently if you fail at your intelligence job and get ~3,000 people killed, you get a Medal in US).

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    Mr. Buchanan often engages in pronoun propaganda, especially when addressing international affairs.

    It gulls ordinary Americans into rooting for Uncle Sam.

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  27. You make the same mistakes as most Americans:

    1) You assume your govt works for you and it is there to protect you. We’ve moved beyond that a long time ago to where we work for the government. I can’t accept that so many well educated and experienced intel professionals missed the threat, but I can readily accept that they turned a blind eye to it or even set it in motion to further clamp down on us milk-cows;

    2) We the People are complicit with the They the Rulers by not showing up in the millions with pitchforks on the Capital steps.

    You get the government you tolerate.

    Happy Bastille Day.

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  28. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Avery
    { If we don’t like bearing these costs,.....}

    As Tanto said: 'What do you mean "We", white man.'

    There are two "we"s here: as far as I know "we" the taxpayers don't have any global ambitions.
    My neighbors, friends, coworkers, etc worry about their jobs, the cost of gasoline, food, mortgage rates, high rents, worry about their families, their personal problems/health, their kids,.....

    "We" the rulers - the MIC, the banksters, the globalist corporations, etc - love meddling all over the world, love making trouble, love manufacturing enemies......because that's how they can justify every increasing military and 'security/intelligence'* (sic) expenditures. The taxpayers are constantly kept in fear by MSM propaganda, and if that doesn't work, somehow or other real terrorist attacks happen, even when intelligence agencies are warned about them well in advance, as e.g. the Boston Marathon bombing.

    I was watching Trump and May presser today, and sure enough he was asked "When you meet Putin, are you going to bring up the occupation (sic) of Crimea?", as if the average American taxpayer knows where Crimea is, much less gives a hoot about it.

    This is how the MSM manufactures 'crises' and starts braying for global meddling and intervention.

    One donkey starts braying and then the rest join in, and pretty soon we have a so-called 'consensus'. Then comes..... "Mr President, there is consensus that United States should do something about such-n-such or so-n-so. What are you going to do about it?"

    __________________
    * US has, what, 17 intelligence agencies (!) and they could not detect and stop 9/11.
    About 3,000 innocent civilians were killed. As far as I know nobody got fired or an agency got shut down for failing at their given task. Every time they fail, they get larger budgets.

    Bush even gave that effing incompetent Tenet a Presidential Medal of Freedom (apparently if you fail at your intelligence job and get ~3,000 people killed, you get a Medal in US).

    Mr. Buchanan often engages in pronoun propaganda, especially when addressing international affairs.

    It gulls ordinary Americans into rooting for Uncle Sam.

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  29. KenH says:

    Dissolve NATO. It’s outlived it’s usefulness anyway. We wouldn’t be having this discussion if the U.S., under Jewish influence, didn’t stupidly agree to help destroy Germany in WWII and then, like General Patton, realize that we’d made a fateful error after the war.

    The only reason 35,000 American troops are still in Germany is to prevent a nationalist government from ascending to power. But that would be plan B since plan A would be a CIA color coded revolution if a true nationalist were to gain power and especially one insufficiently friendly to Jewis interests and Israel.

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  30. dfordoom says: • Website

    NATO, an alliance created 69 years ago to defend Europe.

    It was created 69 years ago. That part is correct. It was certainly not created to defend Europe. It was created to defend the American Empire.

    But the Europeans are not completely stupid. They are very wise to let the U.S. pay the bulk of the costs of NATO, since only the U.S. benefits from NATO. If NATO were merely useless it would not matter so much but NATO is a positive menace to Europe and to the peace of the world.

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  31. @Mike P
    Buchanan may have his heart in the right place, but he has a pretty blinkered worldview.

    West Germany used to spend a similar percentage on defence as the U.S. does now, and the quality of its troops and armaments (while far from perfect) was as good as or better than the U.S. troops of that time. Why has it changed? Because of NATO "defence" strategy. At the time, the mission was clear and limited - defence against a possible Soviet attack. However, after the Soviet Union collapsed, all of a sudden the Germans got roped into senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan.

    The wilful neglect of the German army is a form of passive resistance against this reckless adventurism. Why should Germans want to fight and die anyway for the privilege of remaining a ZUSA colony, as opposed to becoming a Russian one? Germany's economic future clearly lies with Eurasia, not with the West. The Germans and other Euros are just keeping their heads down while they wait for the ZUSA empire to collapse. Meanwhile, Trump doesn't care about their "defence" but instead only about levying troops for renewed adventures.

    ” senseless adventures in the Balkans and Afghanistan.”

    Well hell, exactly how much “adventure” did Germany engage in Afghanistan anyway?

    57 KIA, 249 WIA (Soldiers, Police).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_casualties_in_Afghanistan

    So much for German “adventure” over the 17 years. Not even one Leopard tank to show for their “adventure” there.

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  32. hyperbola says:
    @James N. Kennett
    There is a problem with the disparity of defense spending by NATO countries - and it is the USA that is out of step.

    America could halve its defense spending and still spend more than Russia and China combined - and that's assuming that those countries maintained their spending at the same levels. If America asked the Russians and Chinese, "what military spending would you give up, if we halved our military budget?" they might be pleasantly surprised at the answer.

    Superpower conflict is not going to happen, because all parties know it would mean the end of the world. Our present levels of military spending serve no useful purpose.

    Europe already spends more than four times as much on “defense” as the Russians.

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  33. I have heard several military friends over the years discuss ‘duty’ while stationed in Europe (on my dime). I heard a lot about food beer skiing and nature outings, but not much about defense.

    NATO is a relic that should have been shut down years ago, now guarding against an inflated, overstated ‘threat’ from a poor Russia.

    Let the Europeans decide how much they want to spend to protect against this ‘threat.’ Enough soaking the American taxpayer for this malarkey. The Russians and Germans already are cooperating economically.

    Time to wind down the ridiculously overstretched overmanned and overexpensive US global empire.

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  34. Scrap NATO, throw Israel and their Saudi lap dogs down the well, and walk away.
    The barbarians are already inside the gates. All across the West. All that’s left is to prepare for natural selection to do it’s thing. Another empire gives way to conspiring elites, crooked politicians, masses of hedonistic nihilists and the barbarians they inundate themselves with.

    Honestly. Between granting women full agency, demographically replacing ourselves with people who provide no boon to their own nations, much less ours, and letting Jews run away at the wheel with fiat currency, how many proverbial Rubicons have we already crossed?

    We’re not the first to pave this road, and we already know where it ends.

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  35. @Anonymous

    To Trump, and not only to him, we are being used, gouged, by rich nations we defend, while they skimp on their own defense.
     
    Defense against whom? Russia? Commies? Tell me another one. The real invasions aren't being defended against, and they involve million upon million of third-world refuse flooding into previously-civilised nations.

    AMEN x 1000

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  36. Renoman says:

    NATO is just a bloated useless pig that needs to go. Just the squealing arms industry in it’s death throws.

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  37. Mr. Hack says:

    One idea Trump floated last week was the threat of a drawdown of the 35,000 U.S. troops in Germany. But would this really rattle the Germans?

    A new poll shows that a plurality of Germans favor a drawdown of U.S. troops, and only 15 percent believe that Germany should raise its defense spending to 2 percent of GDP.

    So if it’s good for the US,and the Germans seem to approve too, then why not just do it, Pat?

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  38. That is Newspeak: “speding more for defence” to mean demanding more for occupation. Or extorting more for protection, in gangster’s parlance.

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  39. bluedog says:
    @anon

    Our present levels of military spending serve no useful purpose.
     
    Disagree.

    There one of the necessary segments in US economy.

    Why so we can run up another $21/$22 trillion in debt?…

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  40. Virgile says:

    Latest NATO’s “defense of Europe” : the catastrophic NATO intervention in Libya and the murder of its leader.

    July 13, 2018 COUNTERPUNCH
    Lessons That Should Have Been Learned From NATO’s Destruction of Libya
    by Brian Cloughley

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  41. RVBlake says:

    I didn’t realize that Trump needed to accept Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

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  42. Them Guys says:
    @Duncan
    Many people have stated the American empire is killing the country.
    Fred Reed recently wrote an article just how intertwined the military is with the rest of the country.
    America can't afford a defunct NATO. The military industrial complex is too large and too important to the corporate elite, banks and politicians to loose.
    I see no change in the status quo.

    Why can’t defense companies, Re-tool to make products . Of an equal to usa defense spendings, minus of course a Reasonable amount to Remain as defense budget to defend us from attacks etc. Make different products related to a massive new nationwide Infrastructures rebuilding?

    During WWII, most Every American factory, tool and die shops, every related small-med.-large factories Re-tooled to switch gears and supply usa+allied nations with vast sources of war materials and vehicles and weaponery/ammos. And did it very Fast too. Same can be done to fix usa.

    Us baby boom gen’s Parents and Grandparents Built and Paid via fed taxes, For most everything America currently has called Roads-Bridges-various tax paid schools-govnt offices-etc. etc.

    And all those loons and libertarians who insist it all needs go Private owned, such as toll roads and toll freeways in order to have great roads, and better managed freeways etc…Forget that.

    We Actual American Citizens Born and Raised in usa…We own every fuckin piece of usa infrastructure and every acre of far too much fed lands and parks…We Own it All.

    We should not need pay toll road fees just to drive on freeways built and paid for by our parents and grand parents…Plus ever since we/you got a driver lic at age 16, and a car to drive, we/you has paid continuously massive road-tax-fees imbedded within every single gallon of gas and diesel fuel you ever bought to drive that car. It is aprox $1.00 Tax combined, fed/state tax per gallon.

    And Every Cent we have been paying for as long as 50+ years of such road use tax, add in also, road use tax per every years vehicle reg and lic plate tabs….All of it was supposed to pay for road Repairs…New roads..Bridges repair or new bridges built. And all other related taxpayer funded stuff related to road tax on gas etc.

    Sooooooo…Why the fuck is most usa roads so messed up with even several overpass bridges collapsing in last decade? Killing hundreds at time of collapse.

    I will tell you why….Because between all that extra expenses fed gov of Our America, pays enormous amounts to other nations every where. Especially Israel. And even greater yet expense for worldwide 800+ Army Bases…Latest bases built in last 6 mo’s in Israel (first ever usa army base in Israel) and Syria. Maybe in Africa too(?).

    Maybe Pats article has it all Backwards…Maybe its ziousa hijacked fed govnt. That so desires to keep a huge NATO and every/more yet, military assets and bases global wide?

    Why was None of our Greatest Generation Elder’s ever able to give a good answer, when ever guys like Me asked the question of:..”Hey uncle Joe, why did America become allies with Kommie Russia in WWII, only to as soon as wwii ended, declare soviet Russia as cold war enemy number One?”

    Best answers they provided were something like, “Well Them Guys, Back then wwii the usa fed gov just Had to….Do…Something”…Ok uncle Joey, but what about After war ended? Why were Russian kommies A-OK then yet Not a-ok less than a year once war ended”…”Well Them Guys just as back Then they just Had to do something….Once ended and into todays eras, They just Must do something!”

    Thats how the Geatest Duped Gen got hosed and scammed to fully agree and never make waves on any and all fed laws or agendas or policies ever done to Date…Just tell them duped so badly that.

    “Well…They (means fed gov aka ziojewry/anglozios) Have to do Something! Any thing as long as it is…something! So before we was old enough to vote, they sure did something alright, they totally Wasted $50-Trillion on prior named reasons, ie. other nations and war and mic, Plus probably half that amount Wasted worse yet on, trying to “Raise them colored folk Up by Their Boot Straps” agendas…which really means, give savage ghetto negro’s tons free grant cash to attend college plus extra cash to Pay extra spelling and reading teachers and mentors to teach stupid monkeys how to read while already In college classes….Plus more $$ yet wasted on massive bribes to coloreds so they wont go all ape shit crazy and loot-riot-burn down cities every where….How’s that worked out?

    Even when no wwii era folks are left alive in usa, you will never convince most of boomers gen or millenials gen that they, are stuck in past era and cannot admit both jew world wars were Not good things at all…Not needed, should have never happened and even if did usa should have remained Out, except for actual attacks on america…But nobody whos jewized up and War-wized up, can ever convince elder gen nor most boomer gen and boomer gens kids.

    This is totally due to massive pro “greatest generation” wwii and “Last good war we fought” propagandas 24/7 our entire lives. And combined with cold war scare fears of “Must remain at Constant alert folks”!

    Why constant alert?..Because our best buddy russian soviet bolshevik kommie reds,of wwii, became instantly public enemy number one at wars end, and may strike us at home in usa any moment now!….Thats why every kid must learn…”Duck & Cover”!! Hide under school desk and wrap arms around head and wait for teacher instructions…

    Best ever thing I did was quit school once I learned all I need know of three-R’s. But most remained in school, went to colleges and boy did the scammers and gov swindlers get their hooks into them deep eh….Today barley any can be convinced that just maybe greatest gen was Not so great, but were really so duped and scammed. They cannot accept it and are unable to view parents or grand parents any other way but Grrrreatest gens period…I understand folks wanting to view parents in good light eh…Me too so do I with My grand parents and parents…But it is what it is and greatest Duped fits much better I say.

    America and whitey europe wasted an entire one hundred years a whole century of wars galore, still today more wars than can count, and No end in sight, while infrastructures crumble and usa turns 3rd world shit hole nation.

    I want My/Our fair share, My/Our “whitey Privilidges”, My/Our freeways smooth flat and pot hole free, and a return to white majority…Like when kids and it was 90% whiteys. And Nobody can convince Me it wasn’t much better all around back then in America.

    When is enough whiteys going to really get fed up enough to actually do…Something! similar to how greeat gen had to do something, anything!?

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  43. Them Guys says:
    @Per/Norway
    and never mind that it is the U.S and nato`s (w/help from traitors in Euro govs) fault we are being overrunned by barbarians, so the way i see it we we have payed more then enough for the "protection".
    nato is a racket just like every U.S/European war have been for a loong time.

    But if nato/isarel/usa wars are main blame for floods of “refugees”?

    Why did those Males Only for most part, leave old folks, parents, small kids, wives, women in general all remining back in war zones?

    And why with mid east regions ablaze in wars and total nationwide destructions ongoing since 2003, just recently in past few yrs become refugees? Something smells very very fishy eh?

    Why did every top EU officials and eu nations Prez’s, All go to attend a huge Israeli and jewry sponsored party event held in Jerusalem about one year ago, where at, top Israeli jewish honchos and rabbis praised their combined Plan agenda to flood eu nations as well as usa with Non whiteys?

    Search Yutube videos for a 22 min video by and of Barbara Lerner Spector a jewish woman crazed zio fanatic loon, in where she fully explains the hows and whys etc and that Yes this massive flooding into Only white nations, including Canada and usa, is a Zionist jewish affair foremost and primarily….ps, she got aprox. $4+Million tax cash from Sweden for her “Non profit jew zio org” to assist in ruining and wrecking every eu state and usa and Canada.

    SEE also: Previous UNZ article on this exact same jewish created problem…Note huge Long Table in article photo showing the participant’s seated at Praise-party table in Jerusalem Israel.

    No its not only a jewish and zio run agenda…Just around 97% jew is all. Rest are others.

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  44. look, the nato issue is ot that complicated. it was formed during the cold war in response to what we called the intent of communist russia, chine and others to engage in advancing communism on a global scale. war torn europe and asia were thought uniquely vulnerable.

    no need to consider complex jewish theories of world domination – just a real fear of communism – real or imagined.

    the nato mission has expanded since the end of the cold war, what i refer to as soviet/russian retraction as opposed to collapse.

    the fact that europe has not shifted in the defense of their region minus the lare dependence of us presences, more than suggests our burden is over extended.

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  45. JAckson says:

    Um . … since when is the MIDDLE East part of Europe?
    Why is NATO destroying Civilizations for Israel?
    We killed countless “communists” because
    “The Commies were going to take our JOBS, Our HOMES, and Our WAY of LIFE.”
    Well our treasonous politicians are GIVING them away.
    Why are we wasting TRILLION$ on weapons to fight Russia and China? Our borders are wide open to pillaging, raping, murdering invaders and the PEDOpriests & politicians “welcome” them.
    All the Russians & Chinese have to do is drop their weapons and WALK into America and Europe, demand refuge and WELFARE and make themselves at home. Our PANSY ASSED MISSleaders will give them your Social Security and Country.
    Remember that Chinese general who threatened to ship 100million peasants here? The PEDOpriests/politicians would love that.
    NATO wants to take on RUSSIA?! (and maybe China)
    NATO cannot defend it’s own people at HOME.
    NATO cannot beat ISIS-AlQueda-Taliban-AlNusra
    NATO families will be raped & murdered as NATO Troops fight far from home.
    NATO installations will be sabotaged by Refujihadi Invaders.
    NATO Troops should turn their weapons on their ENEMIES that are betraying them.

    NATO defeated itself by being invaded and overrun by the REFUJIHADIS from the wars NATO started but can’t FINISH …………. THAT has to be a FIRST in all history.
    Waffling and ranting about the Russian threat whilst the real enemy sits in our government offices and marches in our gates.
    We pay them to plot against us.
    We pay them to out breed us.
    We watch while they commit treason and sedition.
    We hand the West to them on a plate.
    Only Russia, Poland, Hungary are standing up and fighting them.

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  46. RoHa says:

    One reason the Europeans were reluctant to spend money on NATO was that the US nearly always insisted on US made equipment, even when British, German, or French equipment was clearly superior.

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  47. H. S. says:

    ” …if the Europeans do not get serious this time, it could be the beginning of the end for NATO.”

    Well Mr Buchanan, that’s not what we are told here:

    Expandable and Increasingly Expensive, NATO Spreads All Over Europe

    {emphasis added}

    “.. in 1999, while demolishing the Yugoslav Federation with the air war, NATO included the first three countries of the former Warsaw Pact: Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary. Then, in 2004, it extended to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania (formerly part of the USSR); Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia (formerly members of the Warsaw Pact); and Slovenia (formerly part of the Yugoslav Federation). In 2009, it included Albania (once a member of the Warsaw Pact) and Croatia (formerly part of the Yugoslav Federation); in 2017, Montenegro, also part of the Yugoslav Federation.

    After having expanded in 1999-2017 from 16 to 29 members, NATO leaves “the door open” to other entrances: Ukraine and Georgia, already part of the USSR, are waiting to enter; Bosnia-Herzegovina and Macedonia, already part of the Yugoslav Federation. For this reason, NATO has set up an expandable headquarters.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/expandable-and-increasingly-expensive-nato-spreads-all-over-europe/5647554

    Also, Mr Buchanan, they tried to start a third World War (8/8/8) in Georgia using Canada:

    They (Powercorp, Bush, Rothschild, etc) are still in the Caucasus, i.e. in Georgia and Ukraine using Quebec workers (the French connection).

    ON TARGET: WHO’S IN WHO’S FACE

    {emphasis added}

    “The problem with the anti-Russian rhetoric is that it paints Russia as a power-mad military aggressor. The reality is that NATO is staging major military exercises that involve tens of thousands of troops along Russia’s borders in the Baltic States. Yes, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania are now all members of NATO, so one could argue this is within the prerogative of the alliance.

    However, the U.S. and Britain are also conducting large-scale military exercises in the Republic of Georgia in the Caucasus. Not only does Georgia border Russia, it also has two frozen, unresolved conflicts involving the breakaway territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

    In August 2008, following a large-scale joint military exercise with U.S. troops, the Georgian military mounted a full offensive into South Ossetia, resulting in Russia’s retaliatory intervention. In the resultant clash, Russian forces quickly destroyed the Georgian forces and restored the previous territorial boundaries of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.”

    That same year, Canada led the campaign to admit both Georgia and Ukraine into NATO. Had Canada been successful in that effort, the third world war would have either erupted in 2008 over South Ossetia, or in March 2014 over Russia’s annexation of the Crimea from Ukraine.

    http://espritdecorps.ca/on-target-whos-in-whos-face/2016/5/24/on-target-whos-in-whos-face?rq=georgia

    They USE us workers for their crusades in the Caucasus. They are WAR CRIMINALS, and they were never indicted for the hundreds who died in Georgia in 2008. MONSTERS. They continue their constant Russia bashing, and they (their ridiculous newspapers) continue to stay totally silent on Georgia, Ukraine, and Libya. and WAR CRIMINALS.

    Thank you.

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  48. By all means, let’s dissolve NATO — it’s good for America (no more paying insane amounts of money), good for Europe (no more being forced into antagonizing Russia), and good for the world (better balance).

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  49. @ThreeCranes
    "Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?"

    Because we know that if we allowed the Germans to rearm to the extent of their native abilities, that we could ultimately find ourselves threatened by their superior capabilities. Cheaper to pay them tribute than to find ourselves in their crosshairs.

    Germans are a rapidly declining, aging, dying people with almost no combat-ready military equipment to speak of. They present no threat to any country of any size.

    First, the Germans are tied with Japan as the oldest people in the world, median age approaching FORTY-SEVEN and still rising.

    Second, Germans don’t have children. The TFR of all german residents is only about 1.6, compared to 2.1 needed for mere replacement. Since nonEuropeans in Germany have a higher TFR than Germans, the native german population is shrinking faster than the “national” TFR would imply.

    How would a dwindling number of Germans, HALF of them in their 50s through 80s, attack some other country?

    I’m not sure they’ll even be able to win the civil war against the Muslims and Africans in their midst on their own territory. Fifty-year-olds without guns fighting 25-year-olds usually won’t turn out well for the older combatant. Sixty- and seventy-year olds without guns fighting 35-year-olds, same kind of results.

    It’s hard to get used to Germany as a country that will be economically, militarily, politically, and culturally insignificant — not to mention not safe and not GERMAN — but that’s their obvious and fairly rapid trajectory.

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    Only thing I disagree with is your term "civil war". That would be Germans fighting Germans in Germany. Germans fighting Africans and Muslims in Germany is a case of the natives trying to repel an invasion.
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  50. @anon

    Our present levels of military spending serve no useful purpose.
     
    Disagree.

    There one of the necessary segments in US economy.

    The spending and the associated jobs needn’t dry up entirely, and the reduction and transition needn’t happen all in one or two years.

    We could gradually bring home troops from Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, and spend some of that imperialism money instead on a serious wall across our southern border, and a national high-speed rail system. At least have some border security and some modern infrastructure in our own country to show for it, for a change.

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  51. [email protected] idiotic premise of NATO defending Europe. Since nobody is actually threatening France or Germany and only an imbecile would think the US would risk nuclear war over Poland or a Baltic state, NATO is utterly worthless to Europe. Does anyone remember a single war NATO fought at Germany’s behest? I can name a few ones that were fought at America’s behest in the last 15 years, let alone historically.

    Maybe the EU can start having an independent foreign policy out of this. Even without Trump, I hardly see why the EU should be some satellite of the US that has to:
    1)send their men die in dumb illegal wars so that US corporations and the politicians they have bribed profit
    2)buy silly military equipment that we don’t need from the US. If we’re to invest in our military, the equipment should be sourced from within the EU exclusively. See above about US corporations and politicians.
    3)pay the costs for silly sanctions the US wants such as those on Iran or Russia. Nice scare mongering to sell military hardware, but I hardly see why Europe should pay for it.
    4)not have an independent Asia policy – I don’t see a reason why the EU shouldn’t choose either China or the US for our backing in the Pacific depending on who offers us more. Or not having closer ties with multiple other countries. [email protected] US whining like a little bitch about Europeans buying gas from Russia. Mind your own business.
    5)whenever refugees from America’s wars show up to our shores, we should just put them in bigger boats and send them to NYC.

    Hopefully, the next elections will clobber even more the standard European parties that enjoy kissing DC’s ass in exchange for personal benefits(see Blair amassing a fortune by illegally getting the UK in Iraq). ‘Go fuck yourself’ should be the foreign policy of the EU towards the US whenever the US wants something every single time it isn’t in our interest to pursue it.

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    Also who gives a shit what Trump is losing patience with? The Iranian sanctions are a joke as well - if I was leading the EU, I'd simply impose retaliatory sanctions on US corporations that donate to the GOP and have any operations in swing states currently held by the GOP. If they donate again to the GOP, they face civil forfeiture of all their assets in the EU(including intellectual property) and all those resources will go to EU corporations harmed by DC's sanctions on Iran.
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  52. @NATO is worthless to Europe
    [email protected] idiotic premise of NATO defending Europe. Since nobody is actually threatening France or Germany and only an imbecile would think the US would risk nuclear war over Poland or a Baltic state, NATO is utterly worthless to Europe. Does anyone remember a single war NATO fought at Germany's behest? I can name a few ones that were fought at America's behest in the last 15 years, let alone historically.

    Maybe the EU can start having an independent foreign policy out of this. Even without Trump, I hardly see why the EU should be some satellite of the US that has to:
    1)send their men die in dumb illegal wars so that US corporations and the politicians they have bribed profit
    2)buy silly military equipment that we don't need from the US. If we're to invest in our military, the equipment should be sourced from within the EU exclusively. See above about US corporations and politicians.
    3)pay the costs for silly sanctions the US wants such as those on Iran or Russia. Nice scare mongering to sell military hardware, but I hardly see why Europe should pay for it.
    4)not have an independent Asia policy - I don't see a reason why the EU shouldn't choose either China or the US for our backing in the Pacific depending on who offers us more. Or not having closer ties with multiple other countries. [email protected] US whining like a little bitch about Europeans buying gas from Russia. Mind your own business.
    5)whenever refugees from America's wars show up to our shores, we should just put them in bigger boats and send them to NYC.

    Hopefully, the next elections will clobber even more the standard European parties that enjoy kissing DC's ass in exchange for personal benefits(see Blair amassing a fortune by illegally getting the UK in Iraq). 'Go fuck yourself' should be the foreign policy of the EU towards the US whenever the US wants something every single time it isn't in our interest to pursue it.

    Also who gives a shit what Trump is losing patience with? The Iranian sanctions are a joke as well – if I was leading the EU, I’d simply impose retaliatory sanctions on US corporations that donate to the GOP and have any operations in swing states currently held by the GOP. If they donate again to the GOP, they face civil forfeiture of all their assets in the EU(including intellectual property) and all those resources will go to EU corporations harmed by DC’s sanctions on Iran.

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  53. augusto says: • Website

    Yes, funny.
    What´s more important and vital for the declining empire?
    The MIC (military industrial complex) annual 700 billion tax dollars and the iron will to exert dominance on Europe made since 1945 or the substitution of a thousand tanks, missiles and 40 K troops by europeans on the spot?
    Or does it happen the IMF, world Bank , Nato HQ and WTO, ALL of them tools of full spectrum domination do not anymore serve the empire´s purpose?
    The stupid american public does not yet understand that only Poland, Latvia, Letonia and recently ”acquired” ukraine accept the US crusade and the US propaganda that Russia is a menacing monster.
    And that pressure will only stir up the and and resistance germans, italians and neighbors… Berlin knows which GAS supply is good for them and more reliable for them…
    I do appreciate Mr Trump´s flat boldness of telling a few -US angle- crude truths to the Euros.
    But stop pretending, You Washington empire, pretending/lying you wish to exchange the 700 bi ”defense” budget, the twin deficit with QE and the symbolism of 800 military bases around the world for one or two percentage points of Euros of their own. Much less so for a trim down of trade surpluses against the globalizers that dictate the empire´s policies.

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  54. LEVER says:

    Trump’s playing the victim on behalf of his country. Why? Because if you can convince yourself you’re the victim then you can’t be the aggressor. Basic human behaviour.

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  55. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    If America is going to play the fool how can we blame Europe for this?

    If America chooses to spend more money defending Europe then Europeans do, then that says to me that America is just plain stupid. Let them defend themselves.

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  56. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes
    "Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?"

    Because we know that if we allowed the Germans to rearm to the extent of their native abilities, that we could ultimately find ourselves threatened by their superior capabilities. Cheaper to pay them tribute than to find ourselves in their crosshairs.

    Ridiculous.

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  57. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Germans are a rapidly declining, aging, dying people with almost no combat-ready military equipment to speak of. They present no threat to any country of any size.

    First, the Germans are tied with Japan as the oldest people in the world, median age approaching FORTY-SEVEN and still rising.

    Second, Germans don’t have children. The TFR of all german residents is only about 1.6, compared to 2.1 needed for mere replacement. Since nonEuropeans in Germany have a higher TFR than Germans, the native german population is shrinking faster than the “national” TFR would imply.

    How would a dwindling number of Germans, HALF of them in their 50s through 80s, attack some other country?

    I’m not sure they’ll even be able to win the civil war against the Muslims and Africans in their midst on their own territory. Fifty-year-olds without guns fighting 25-year-olds usually won’t turn out well for the older combatant. Sixty- and seventy-year olds without guns fighting 35-year-olds, same kind of results.

    It’s hard to get used to Germany as a country that will be economically, militarily, politically, and culturally insignificant — not to mention not safe and not GERMAN — but that’s their obvious and fairly rapid trajectory.

    Only thing I disagree with is your term “civil war”. That would be Germans fighting Germans in Germany. Germans fighting Africans and Muslims in Germany is a case of the natives trying to repel an invasion.

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  58. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Those 35,000 US troops are “defending” Germany from Russia? ROTFLMAO! Look at a map. Discounting the tiny Kaliningrad exclave, there are a whole belt of countries between “evil” Russia nd Germany. Belarus, Poland, the Baltic states etc. The Russians would have to fight their way across hundreds of miles of foreign countryside before they even got close to Germany’s borders.

    Those American troops are skiing in the Bavarian Alps, drinking beer and hitting on German women.

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  59. artichoke says:

    Agree with Buchanan 100%. Because it’s what I’d do if I were President and knew how to get things done. Trump is President, he knows how to get things done, and he almost always does what I would do if I could.

    It’s probably a project for his second term, but I see him keeping count of failures of NATO “allies” to spend 2%, to try to spend closer to 4%, buying natgas from Russia rather than us, and at some point he’ll decide, without further telegraphing of the punch, that we are suspending participation in NATO temporarily until these problems with our good allies are fixed. He’ll time it for when NATO countries are in an economic crisis, because there’s no reason to make it a softer landing for them.

    And he’ll go more for bilateral relations with countries that have kept out Muslims, like the Three Seas Initiative countries. He’s already set that in motion, and he never forgets.

    I hope he does all this.

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    Nobody would notice or care if you left NATO beyond the idiotic compunction of Europeans to send their men to die in DC's wars and to buy military equipment from the US(which shouldn't occur at all out of national security).
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  60. artichoke says:
    @anonymous
    Is Mr. Buchanan so long in Washington that he can ask this question in good faith?

    “Why — nearly three decades after the end of the Cold War, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the crackup of the Soviet Union and the overthrow of the Communist dictatorship in Moscow — are we still defending European nations that collectively have 10 times the GDP of Vladimir Putin’s Russia?”

    Uncle Sam has never been and isn’t there to defend anyone.

    But we’re not getting money’s worth with these western European countries, and the grace period is running out real fast.

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  61. Wally says:
    @Bill jones
    NATO has nothing to do with the defense of Europe. It is tool for the Lockheeds to sell their products to European governments.

    NATO has nothing to do with the defense of Europe.
    It’s a tool for Europe to get more US taxpayers money.

    And considering how little Europe spends, I rather doubt they buy a lot of Lockheed products.

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  62. Wally says:
    @LEVER
    Trump's playing the victim on behalf of his country. Why? Because if you can convince yourself you're the victim then you can't be the aggressor. Basic human behaviour.

    Yet you cannot demonstrate that Trump is wrong.

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  63. Anonymous[507] • Disclaimer says:
    @artichoke
    Agree with Buchanan 100%. Because it's what I'd do if I were President and knew how to get things done. Trump is President, he knows how to get things done, and he almost always does what I would do if I could.

    It's probably a project for his second term, but I see him keeping count of failures of NATO "allies" to spend 2%, to try to spend closer to 4%, buying natgas from Russia rather than us, and at some point he'll decide, without further telegraphing of the punch, that we are suspending participation in NATO temporarily until these problems with our good allies are fixed. He'll time it for when NATO countries are in an economic crisis, because there's no reason to make it a softer landing for them.

    And he'll go more for bilateral relations with countries that have kept out Muslims, like the Three Seas Initiative countries. He's already set that in motion, and he never forgets.

    I hope he does all this.

    Nobody would notice or care if you left NATO beyond the idiotic compunction of Europeans to send their men to die in DC’s wars and to buy military equipment from the US(which shouldn’t occur at all out of national security).

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