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When the Dodge Charger of 20-year-old Nazi sympathizer James Alex Fields Jr., plunged into that crowd of protesters Saturday, killing 32-year-old Heather Heyer, Fields put Charlottesville on the map of modernity alongside Ferguson.

Before Fields ran down the protesters, and then backed up, running down more, what was happening seemed but a bloody brawl between extremists on both sides of the issue of whether Robert E. Lee’s statue should be removed from Emancipation Park, formerly Lee Park.

With Heyer’s death, the brawl was elevated to a moral issue. And President Donald Trump’s initial failure to denounce the neo-Nazi and Klan presence was declared a moral failure.

How did we get here, and where are we going?

In June of 2015, 21-year-old Dylann Roof gunned down nine Christians at an evening Bible study in Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church. A review of Roof’s selfies and website showed him posing with the Confederate battle flag.

Gov. Nikki Haley, five years in office, instantly pivoted and called for removal of the battle flag from the Confederate war memorial on the State House grounds, as a “deeply offensive symbol of a brutally offensive past.”
This ignited a national clamor to purge all statues that lionize Confederate soldiers and statesmen.

In Maryland, demands have come for removing statues and busts of Chief Justice Roger Taney, the author of the Dred Scott decision. Statues of Gen. “Stonewall” Jackson, President Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee have been pulled down in New Orleans.

After Charlottesville, pressure is building for removal of the statues of Lee, Jackson, Davis and Gen. “Jeb” Stuart from historic Monument Avenue in Richmond, capital of the Confederacy.

Many Southern towns, including Alexandria, Virginia, have statues of Confederate soldiers looking to the South. Shall we pull them all down? And once all the Southern Civil War monuments are gone, should we go after the statues of the slave owners whom we Americans have heroized?

Gen. George Washington and his subordinate, “Light Horse Harry” Lee, father of Robert E. Lee, were slave owners, as was Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe and Andrew Jackson. Five of our first seven presidents owned slaves, as did James K. Polk, who invaded and annexed the northern half of Mexico, including California.

Jefferson, with his exploitation of Sally Hemings and neglect of their children, presents a particular problem. While he wrote in the Declaration of Independence of his belief that “all men are created equal,” his life and his depiction of Indians in that document belie this.

And Jefferson is both on the face of Mount Rushmore and has a memorial in the U.S. capital.

Another term applied to the “Unite the Right” gathering in Charlottesville is that they are “white supremacists,” a mortal sin to modernity. But here we encounter an even greater problem.

Looking back over the history of a Western Civilization, which we call great, were not the explorers who came out of Spain, Portugal, France, Holland and England all white supremacists?

They conquered in the name of the mother countries all the lands they discovered, imposed their rule upon the indigenous peoples, and vanquished and eradicated the native-born who stood in their way.

Who, during the centuries-long discovery and conquest of the New World, really believed that the lives of the indigenous peoples were of equal worth with those of the colonizers?

They believed European Man had the right to rule the world.

Beginning in the 16th century, Western imperialists ruled much of what was called the civilized world. Was not the British Empire, one of the great civilizing forces in human history, a manifestation of British racial superiority?

And if being a segregationist disqualifies one from being venerated in our brave new world, what do we do with Woodrow Wilson, who thought “Birth of a Nation” a splendid film and who re-segregated the U.S. government?

In 1955, Prime Minister Churchill, imperialist to the core, urged his Cabinet to consider the slogan, “Keep England White.”

Nor is a belief in the superiority of one’s race, religion, tribe and culture unique to the West. What is unique, what is an experiment without precedent, is what we are about today.

We have condemned and renounced the scarlet sins of the men who made America and embraced diversity, inclusivity and equality.

Our new America is to be a land where all races, tribes, creeds and cultures congregate, all are treated equally, and all move ever closer to an equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth and power.

We are going to become “the first universal nation.”

“All men are created equal” is an ideological statement. Where is the scientific or historic proof for it? Are we building our utopia on a sandpile of ideology and hope?

Nevertheless, on to Richmond!

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Funny how it is okay for all other races to have group and collective interests and to pursue them but when whites do so they are denounced as “supremacists”.

    Much of what we are now seeing is due to demographic changes begun in the 1960′s. Even countries like Canada are having their histories revised (endless “apologies” for actions that would never have raised a shrug fifty years ago).

    Someday the capital may no longer be called Washington and he may be removed from currency because he was a slaveowner. None of these Confederate monumnet removals helps race relations. It is about the new elites letting whites know their new place in America.

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    the chicken are coming back to roost. I always say if you step in shit it doesn't matter how much u try to clean your choose the stink will remain. Your forefathers didn't do u a favour, they betrayed you. Let this be a lesson to you all.
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  2. Ivy says:

    America, as a thought experiment, is in many ways like the Universe. Please indulge me in some cosmological analogical musings.

    At some point, expanding galaxies in the observable Universe become so far from one another, it is as though separate distant components never existed, at least in the eyes of any beholder with any telescope. Once those galaxies or super clusters or such are beyond your event horizon or field of inspection or physical impact, for example where all background radiation or gravitational influence is outside of your perceptive capacity, then they are essentially out of view forever and may as well have no impact on your human life span-restricted thought processes.

    Such are the political considerations of a modern body politic. Once people allow, or acquiesce to, bad thoughts being forced down the great cosmic memory hole, those thoughts may as well be gone forever as far as future generations are concerned. Western Civilization experienced a minor variation of that with the Dark Ages, (and Thank God for the preservation of the Greek and Arab texts, for example, so that our forbears did not have to reinvent, slowly, more flat wheels). Who really wants to do that again?

    America used to have a seemingly boundless enthusiasm and thirst for knowledge. Such old notions are now out of fashion, at least according to our reporting stenographers, having been replaced by mere temporal matters like quotas, graft, corruption and a selfishness that would have made our Founding Fathers flush with anger and disgust. We had an idea, our own little Logos, in a non-blasphemous sense, and are in danger of losing that ideal. How do we attempt through our actions to bring glory to God as we should?

    Where are the allowable alternatives that are compelling? Oh, there aren’t any and never were, regardless of the protestations and posturing of a disreputable self-anointed elite.

    Pat, keep fighting.

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  3. A fascinating factino: Ulysses Simpson Grant was a slaveowner. “Grant himself owned a slave called William Jones, acquired from his father-in-law. At a time when he could have desperately used the money from the sale of Jones, Grant signed a document that gave him his freedom.”

    http://www.american-presidents.org/2007/02/grant-was-slave-owner.html

    So, U.S. Grant is just another evil whitey to be expunged from our historical memory. Let’s all be grateful to the Social Justice Warriors of the left for cleansing our culture of its moral impurities.

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    A fascinating factino to me is that the process of destruction of American history began with this little Indian-American woman, Nikki Haley...
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  4. Dear Mr. Buchanan:
    I have read your numerous books.
    Especially I like
    Churchill, Hitler, and “The Unnecessary War”: How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World

    https://www.amazon.com/Churchill-Hitler-Unnecessary-War-Britain/dp/0307405168/

    $ 4.77 +$ 3.99 S&H (used)
    I recently read 7 page short story by Kurt Vonnegut,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

    I believe it is still relevant.
    Most respectfully, your I.f.f.U.

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  5. Randal says:

    The key point is, as many on the left have identified, whether “racism” is a political opinion or an inherently evil thoughtcrime (and therefore speechcrime, if expressed aloud).

    Clearly, unless you subscribe to some idiosyncratic faith-based or self-serving dogmatic position, it is the former and not the latter. Anyone who asserts the opposite is therefore part of the problem, and not part of any solution.

    Such people, who define political opinions unacceptable to them as not just wrong but inherently evil, are just the same common or garden totalitarians that have inflicted misery upon humanity forever. They need to be dismissed with contempt, and since the main totalitarian threat comes today from the left it is the right that should be cleansing its representatives of any who appease the enemies of liberty in this way.

    Deselect people like McCain, Huckabee, Romney, Cruz, or be forever betrayed by your supposed representatives whenever it matters.

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  6. KenH says:

    And once all the Southern Civil War monuments are gone, should we go after the statues of the slave owners whom we Americans have heroized?

    You cannot placate the (((radical left))) and they never sleep. They will then move on to statues of Washington, Jefferson, Madison and the American flag itself. Then they will come for our flesh. I recommend people read up on the Armenian genocide and perhaps watch the movie The Promise as that is exactly what the enemies of white people have planned for us when the conditions are ripe.

    Our new America is to be a land where all races, tribes, creeds and cultures congregate, all are treated equally, and all move ever closer to an equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth and power.

    You mean where some races, tribes, creeds and cultures are treated more equally than others. And the sheep are baying “white skin bad, dark skin good” which seems to grow more cacophonous with each passing year .

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    equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth and power
     
    is perfectly described in 7 page short story by Kurt Vonnegut,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron
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  7. @KenH

    And once all the Southern Civil War monuments are gone, should we go after the statues of the slave owners whom we Americans have heroized?
     
    You cannot placate the (((radical left))) and they never sleep. They will then move on to statues of Washington, Jefferson, Madison and the American flag itself. Then they will come for our flesh. I recommend people read up on the Armenian genocide and perhaps watch the movie The Promise as that is exactly what the enemies of white people have planned for us when the conditions are ripe.

    Our new America is to be a land where all races, tribes, creeds and cultures congregate, all are treated equally, and all move ever closer to an equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth and power.
     
    You mean where some races, tribes, creeds and cultures are treated more equally than others. And the sheep are baying "white skin bad, dark skin good" which seems to grow more cacophonous with each passing year .

    equality of results through the regular redistribution of opportunity, wealth and power

    is perfectly described in 7 page short story by Kurt Vonnegut,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

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  8. Rich says:

    There is still a lot of dispute about whether our 3rd president was involved with Sally Hemmings and whether he was the father of her children. Although some of her descendants appear to share DNA with the legitimate Jefferson family, it’s impossible to prove Thomas Jefferson was the their direct forebear. Those on the Left like to use this as a way to defame Mr Jefferson in particular, and the rest of the founders in general, but it is still only “alleged.” Miss Hemmings’ descendants could be related to the Jefferson clan through another male Jefferson, or even illegitimate male relative.

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    You refer to the following in Buchanan's piece, speaking of Thomas Jefferson:

    "Jefferson, with his exploitation of Sally Hemings and neglect of their children, presents a particular problem. "

    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph. Supposedly, Randolph found the society of other white folk in the Big House to be stifling, so he hung with the dark folk in the slave quarters, playing his fiddle and drinking whiskey. Nothing proven, but something plausible.
    , @El Dato
    Don't play in the hands of those who use "controversy" and "necessary discussion" to hide yet another erasure, yet another excrescence.

    It's completely irrelevant what Jefferson did to whom.

    The blob desires to grow. That is all.
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  9. Took a neighbor couple out for dinner and drinks. Halfway through dinner and during a discussion of national politics I mentioned that I just don’t get the hate part of America.

    I was asked, “What brought that up?”

    I replied, “Are you kidding?”

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  10. In Maryland, demands have come for removing statues and busts of Chief Justice Roger Taney, the author of the Dred Scott decision. Statues of Gen. “Stonewall” Jackson, President Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee have been pulled down in New Orleans. . . .

    Nevertheless, on to Richmond!

    The move to de-Jeffersonize Monticello is already under way: that Monticello housed slaves will be emphasized in the new, improved version of the extraordinary home of the man who drafted US founding documents.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?426148-1/slavery-thomas-jeffersons-monticello

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  11. If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?

    Dogs have no memory of their ancestors. So they are whatever their masters make them to be.

    Likewise, as whites lose their sacred memory(or are made to hate it), they become dogs of the globalists.
    Btw, it’s not ‘we’ as in all of us.

    Jews get to keep their identity and memory. No one’s smashing Jewish monuments. A few that were desecrated were done by Jews themselves to scapegoat whites. Or, they were done by Muslims(but again, whites are blamed).

    When one memory is destroyed, it is to favor ANOTHER MEMORY.

    If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?

    Better to ask, “If THEY erase our history, what are we?”

    We become putty in their hands for they now control and define what we are.

    Buchanan as Catholic should know this. The spread of Christian cultural imperialism erased much of indigenous pagan European culture and identity.

    Now, the new cultural imperialist forces are ‘diversity’, homomania, and Negrophilia pushed by Jewish Globalists. They even want Poland and Hungary to go the same way.

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  12. I see paddy is still pushing the Jefferson / Hemmings bullshit. There is considerable evidence it was the great man’s brother.

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    I honestly don't care who it was, or whether it happened at all. Hell, the family should be eternally grateful they aren't living in a mudhut eating insects, and drilling holes in each others heads on the orders of witch doctors.
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    Oh Tiny…..I wondered where you had gone!


    - Leonard Pitts
     
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  14. germany doesn’t have statues of hitler, goebbles, or eichmann, and owning a nazi flag is against the law.
    they erased their history. i’m quite sure they know who they are.

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    they erased their history. i’m quite sure they know who they are.
     
    I'm quite sure they don't. They don't know if they want to be ethnically proud Germans or anti-racist curs. And while this identity crisis rages it makes them tentative to the very real threat of demographic displacement via Muslim "refugees".
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  15. Talha says:

    “All men are created equal” is an ideological statement. Where is the scientific or historic proof for it?

    None – it is a religious statement – it is implied in the word “created”. Without religion (a specific strand of religion for sure), the entire assumption of that statement falls down.

    Very good article – as usual – by Mr. Buchanan.

    Peace.

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  16. If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?

    Russia of 1990s.

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  17. bjondo says:

    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.

    Statues and carvings of the Founders will be replaced by statues and carvings of Rabbis.

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    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.
     
    Wrong Frank. They will go with the child molester Leo Frank, sent to his just reward by Southern White men.
    , @the Supreme Gentleman
    Has anyone, anywhere---let alone many people of note---expressed any support for this idea? All the proposals I've seen, in e.g. the Huffington Post, are to replace Confederate statues with black figures. (Often of little historical note.)
    , @anarchyst
    ...Will it include the "diary" that was written in ball-point pen after her death?
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  18. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article166945412.html

    Oh Tiny…..I wondered where you had gone!

    - Leonard Pitts

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  19. KenH says:
    @Lawrence Fitton
    germany doesn't have statues of hitler, goebbles, or eichmann, and owning a nazi flag is against the law.
    they erased their history. i'm quite sure they know who they are.

    they erased their history. i’m quite sure they know who they are.

    I’m quite sure they don’t. They don’t know if they want to be ethnically proud Germans or anti-racist curs. And while this identity crisis rages it makes them tentative to the very real threat of demographic displacement via Muslim “refugees”.

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    @Bill Jones
    I see paddy is still pushing the Jefferson / Hemmings bullshit. There is considerable evidence it was the great man's brother.

    I honestly don’t care who it was, or whether it happened at all. Hell, the family should be eternally grateful they aren’t living in a mudhut eating insects, and drilling holes in each others heads on the orders of witch doctors.

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  21. @bjondo
    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.

    Statues and carvings of the Founders will be replaced by statues and carvings of Rabbis.

    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.

    Wrong Frank. They will go with the child molester Leo Frank, sent to his just reward by Southern White men.

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  22. @Rich
    There is still a lot of dispute about whether our 3rd president was involved with Sally Hemmings and whether he was the father of her children. Although some of her descendants appear to share DNA with the legitimate Jefferson family, it's impossible to prove Thomas Jefferson was the their direct forebear. Those on the Left like to use this as a way to defame Mr Jefferson in particular, and the rest of the founders in general, but it is still only "alleged." Miss Hemmings' descendants could be related to the Jefferson clan through another male Jefferson, or even illegitimate male relative.

    You refer to the following in Buchanan’s piece, speaking of Thomas Jefferson:

    “Jefferson, with his exploitation of Sally Hemings and neglect of their children, presents a particular problem. ”

    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph. Supposedly, Randolph found the society of other white folk in the Big House to be stifling, so he hung with the dark folk in the slave quarters, playing his fiddle and drinking whiskey. Nothing proven, but something plausible.

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    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph.

    Whether it was Thomas or his brother doesn't really change much. What is undisputed is that she was TJ's slave and that TJ didn't behave very well by her. And after all, letting your brother fiddle with the slave women really isn't that much better than doing it yourself. Besides, the claims that TJ fathered children via slaves is not a "new" one, it goes back at least to 1802.

    The evidence seems to show that, in general, TJ thought of his slaves primarily as capital investments with above-market rates of return. See, for example, Henry Wiencek, Master of the Mountain: Thomas Jefferson and His Slaves.

    https://www.amazon.com/Master-Mountain-Thomas-Jefferson-Slaves/dp/0374534020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502902802&sr=8-1&keywords=master+of+the+mountain
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  23. @bjondo
    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.

    Statues and carvings of the Founders will be replaced by statues and carvings of Rabbis.

    Has anyone, anywhere—let alone many people of note—expressed any support for this idea? All the proposals I’ve seen, in e.g. the Huffington Post, are to replace Confederate statues with black figures. (Often of little historical note.)

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  24. We are witnessing nothing short of ethnic cleansing: last time I looked, that was a crime against humanity.

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  25. If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?

    A bunch of pompous ignoramuses stuffed to the brim with propaganda and other feel good myths.

    Oh, wait…what do you mean by “if”????

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  26. Was not the British Empire, one of the great civilizing forces in human history, a manifestation of British racial superiority?

    What? Civilizing? Are you kidding?

    It’s really sad to see that you’ve so totally lost it.

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  27. Before Fields ran down the protesters, and then backed up, running down more, …

    Hey, stop right there, for a minute. I saw a pretty clear video of this. The guy’s car was smashed up pretty good before I saw him start moving forward and then back. If you are getting your car smashed then pretty soon you can expect to be pulled out and smashed yourself.

    I can’t blame the guy at all for using his car to get out of the dangerous situation. I didn’t see him move more than 10 mph until the end there. These people refused to get out of the way, so that’s their problem. Going to trial will still be better for the guy than having gotten Dennyed *

    I’d welcome any other opinions on this part of the happenings in Charlottesville.

    .
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    *Reginald Denny got pulled out of his tractor of his semi back in the Los Angeles riots in 1992. He got beat up badly enough to have problems the rest of his life.

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  28. In Germany, we also have our iconoclasts such as the Antia or Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen, who want to purify the history of Germany by throwing out the baby out with the bath water. A similar phenomenon seems to me is taking place in the US. If the American zealots are allowed to dethrone all the statues of confederates, the US might slide into civil war. It would be a bloody remake of the War of Secession between 1861 to 1865.

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  29. RMM says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)
    A fascinating factino: Ulysses Simpson Grant was a slaveowner. "Grant himself owned a slave called William Jones, acquired from his father-in-law. At a time when he could have desperately used the money from the sale of Jones, Grant signed a document that gave him his freedom."

    www.american-presidents.org/2007/02/grant-was-slave-owner.html

    So, U.S. Grant is just another evil whitey to be expunged from our historical memory. Let's all be grateful to the Social Justice Warriors of the left for cleansing our culture of its moral impurities.

    A fascinating factino to me is that the process of destruction of American history began with this little Indian-American woman, Nikki Haley…

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  30. anarchyst says:
    @bjondo
    Anne Frank statues will replace statues of the Confederacy.

    Statues and carvings of the Founders will be replaced by statues and carvings of Rabbis.

    …Will it include the “diary” that was written in ball-point pen after her death?

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  31. @Grandpa Charlie
    You refer to the following in Buchanan's piece, speaking of Thomas Jefferson:

    "Jefferson, with his exploitation of Sally Hemings and neglect of their children, presents a particular problem. "

    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph. Supposedly, Randolph found the society of other white folk in the Big House to be stifling, so he hung with the dark folk in the slave quarters, playing his fiddle and drinking whiskey. Nothing proven, but something plausible.

    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph.

    Whether it was Thomas or his brother doesn’t really change much. What is undisputed is that she was TJ’s slave and that TJ didn’t behave very well by her. And after all, letting your brother fiddle with the slave women really isn’t that much better than doing it yourself. Besides, the claims that TJ fathered children via slaves is not a “new” one, it goes back at least to 1802.

    The evidence seems to show that, in general, TJ thought of his slaves primarily as capital investments with above-market rates of return. See, for example, Henry Wiencek, Master of the Mountain: Thomas Jefferson and His Slaves.

    https://www.amazon.com/Master-Mountain-Thomas-Jefferson-Slaves/dp/0374534020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502902802&sr=8-1&keywords=master+of+the+mountain

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    Sally Hemings told her children that Thomas Jefferson was their father. She should have known whom she was sleeping with.
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  32. El Dato says:
    @Rich
    There is still a lot of dispute about whether our 3rd president was involved with Sally Hemmings and whether he was the father of her children. Although some of her descendants appear to share DNA with the legitimate Jefferson family, it's impossible to prove Thomas Jefferson was the their direct forebear. Those on the Left like to use this as a way to defame Mr Jefferson in particular, and the rest of the founders in general, but it is still only "alleged." Miss Hemmings' descendants could be related to the Jefferson clan through another male Jefferson, or even illegitimate male relative.

    Don’t play in the hands of those who use “controversy” and “necessary discussion” to hide yet another erasure, yet another excrescence.

    It’s completely irrelevant what Jefferson did to whom.

    The blob desires to grow. That is all.

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  33. virgile says:

    France should destroy all the king statues and palaces in the name of the Revolution!!!

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  34. Anon says: • Disclaimer
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    My impression is that the DNA evidence along with some narrative from the time points clearly not to Thomas Jefferson but to his younger and only brother, Randolph.

    Whether it was Thomas or his brother doesn't really change much. What is undisputed is that she was TJ's slave and that TJ didn't behave very well by her. And after all, letting your brother fiddle with the slave women really isn't that much better than doing it yourself. Besides, the claims that TJ fathered children via slaves is not a "new" one, it goes back at least to 1802.

    The evidence seems to show that, in general, TJ thought of his slaves primarily as capital investments with above-market rates of return. See, for example, Henry Wiencek, Master of the Mountain: Thomas Jefferson and His Slaves.

    https://www.amazon.com/Master-Mountain-Thomas-Jefferson-Slaves/dp/0374534020/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1502902802&sr=8-1&keywords=master+of+the+mountain

    Sally Hemings told her children that Thomas Jefferson was their father. She should have known whom she was sleeping with.

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  35. Gg Mo says:

    The video taped evidence of what the man in the car experienced trying to LEAVE the protest and it’s violent Provocateurs.

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  36. “If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?”

    As P.F. ably demonstrates above, it’s really about “If we erase your history, then who are you?”

    You are depersonalized, demoralized, and dehumanized. And none of it is by accident.

    Meanwhile, riddle me this: After a BLM activist shoots 14 cops in Dallas–which I believe is a tad worse than what happened in Charlottesville–why was there no campaign to demolish monuments and memories of black leaders like Malcolm X, MLK, and so on? More to the point, why would such a campaign be ‘unthinkable’?

    Because it’s good guys vs bad guys, right? Am I close?

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    Who among Malcolm X and MLK was a slave-owner?
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  37. eah says:

    A better question: if ‘we’ allow ‘our’ history to be erased due to pressure from the ‘un-we’, what are ‘we’?

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  38. Blanco says:
    @anon
    Funny how it is okay for all other races to have group and collective interests and to pursue them but when whites do so they are denounced as "supremacists".

    Much of what we are now seeing is due to demographic changes begun in the 1960's. Even countries like Canada are having their histories revised (endless "apologies" for actions that would never have raised a shrug fifty years ago).

    Someday the capital may no longer be called Washington and he may be removed from currency because he was a slaveowner. None of these Confederate monumnet removals helps race relations. It is about the new elites letting whites know their new place in America.

    the chicken are coming back to roost. I always say if you step in shit it doesn’t matter how much u try to clean your choose the stink will remain. Your forefathers didn’t do u a favour, they betrayed you. Let this be a lesson to you all.

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    So your lesson is that people should choose their forefathers more carefully. That's about what we'd expect from someone who says "clean your choose."
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  39. Blanco says:
    @Kyle McKenna

    "If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?"
     
    As P.F. ably demonstrates above, it's really about "If we erase your history, then who are you?"

    You are depersonalized, demoralized, and dehumanized. And none of it is by accident.

    Meanwhile, riddle me this: After a BLM activist shoots 14 cops in Dallas--which I believe is a tad worse than what happened in Charlottesville--why was there no campaign to demolish monuments and memories of black leaders like Malcolm X, MLK, and so on? More to the point, why would such a campaign be 'unthinkable'?

    Because it's good guys vs bad guys, right? Am I close?

    Who among Malcolm X and MLK was a slave-owner?

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    So if your heroes lived in a time after slavery was abolished, you get to kill cops, huh? Glad we have that settled.
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  40. Ben Frank says:

    If we erase our history then we are Rhodesia.

    Prepare to be expropriated. Without torture or murder if you’re lucky.

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  41. Rurik says:

    If We Erase Our History, Who Are We?

    the same people we’ve always been

    I suspect that our histories have been erased many times over the eons

    but as long as we possess our blood, we are and will remain who and what we are

    so it isn’t the heritage and history that they ultimately want to destroy, it’s our blood

    our DNA that drives them apoplectic with murderous and envious hatred

    it isn’t that French woman’s traditions and education that Michelle is glowering at

    its her natural beauty, her race that Michelle loathes with pure hatred

    destroying our monuments and cultural icons are just a step on the road to destroying us

    its all part of a sort of Morgenthau Plan for the people of the West.

    the final solution

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  42. Remembering the Holocaust
    How Many More Monuments for Berlin?
    Monuments in Berlin dedicated to homosexuals persecuted by the Nazis as well as to Sinti and Roma Holocaust victims are finally nearing completion. But what about the other groups?

    By Patrick McGroarty in Berlin

    January 29, 2008

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/remembering-the-holocaust-how-many-more-monuments-for-berlin-a-531865.html

    [MORE]

    When the German magazine Cicero reported earlier this month that over half the pillars of Berlin’s Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe were cracked, it was tempting to blame the weight of history. Or the divisive nature of lingering disputes over how best to honor the victims of Nazi Germany.

    This week, as Germany marks 75 years since Hitler and the Nazis rose to power, it seems that progress has been made in solving some of those disputes. The federal government on Monday announced that two new Holocaust monuments — within walking distance of the sprawling, five-acre Jewish memorial — will soon be completed. One will be dedicated to the gay and lesbian victims of the Holocaust. And in February, construction will begin on another new monument dedicated to the Sinti and Roma, often called Gypsies, who died in the Nazi camps.

    “The road is finally clear for these monuments to be erected and inaugurated,” said German Cultural Minister Bernd Neumann on Monday.

    The announcement has been long in coming. Despite Berlin’s willingness to call attention to its often dark and tragic history, commemorating the Holocaust has been a controversial undertaking. The stark, concrete pillars of the Jewish memorial, which opened in 2005, were originally conceived of as a monument to all of the Nazi’s victims. But a German activist, Lea Rosh, led a contentious public effort to associate it solely with Jews killed in the Holocaust. That left advocates for other groups persecuted and murdered by the Nazis — homosexuals and Gypsies, as well as the handicapped, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Soviet prisoners of war — looking for memorials of their own.

    Berlin’s Memorial Mile

    Groups representing both the homosexuals and the Gypsies began many years ago to plan for their own plot on Berlin’s memorial mile. But they were both stalled, not only by long processes to secure land and funding, but also by contentious infighting over what the memorials should look like and to whom, precisely, they should be dedicated.

    For the Sinti and Roma, the dispute has been raging for years, with construction of the fountain to commemorate the 500,000 Sinti and Roma who died in the Holocaust originally set for 2004. But two separate groups representing Gypsies in Germany could not agree on the inscription, and the project stalled — transforming a rickety wooden sign marking the spot across the street from the German parliament building as an unintended monument to bitter infighting. Even the 2006 agreement by the German government to provide funding failed to resolve the stalemate.

    The design calls for a fountain conceived by Israeli sculptor Dani Karavan, inscribed with a poem called “Auschwitz” by Italian poet Santino Spinelli. A triangular pillar will jut out of the fountain with a rose placed on the top of it. Once a day, the pillar will sink down into the fountain and the flower will be replaced. The project is expected to cost €2 million ($2.95 million). Construction is now set to begin in February.

    Plans for a monument to homosexual Holocaust victims (the Nazis imprisoned 54,000 homosexuals and some 7,000 died in concentration and work camps) were delayed by a similar dispute. In 2003, the German government approved plans for a €600,000 memorial, but some advocacy groups objected to one facet of the design: a video of two men kissing that would play on an endless loop at one end of the monument. The video, they argued, did not recognize the suffering of lesbians as well as gay men. In the final design, a video of two women kissing will rotate every two years with the video of a male couple.

    . . .

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    How Many More Monuments for Berlin?

    Still, even when both memorials are finished, it is hard not to wonder if more are on the way. A group representing those imprisoned and sentenced to death for deserting the German army is also interested in a memorial. The Third Reich likewise persecuted Jehovah's Witnesses as a group and also killed thousands of handicapped people. None of those groups have a prominent place in central Berlin.
     
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  43. @SolontoCroesus
    Remembering the Holocaust
    How Many More Monuments for Berlin?
    Monuments in Berlin dedicated to homosexuals persecuted by the Nazis as well as to Sinti and Roma Holocaust victims are finally nearing completion. But what about the other groups?

    By Patrick McGroarty in Berlin

    January 29, 2008

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/remembering-the-holocaust-how-many-more-monuments-for-berlin-a-531865.html

    When the German magazine Cicero reported earlier this month that over half the pillars of Berlin's Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe were cracked, it was tempting to blame the weight of history. Or the divisive nature of lingering disputes over how best to honor the victims of Nazi Germany.

    This week, as Germany marks 75 years since Hitler and the Nazis rose to power, it seems that progress has been made in solving some of those disputes. The federal government on Monday announced that two new Holocaust monuments -- within walking distance of the sprawling, five-acre Jewish memorial -- will soon be completed. One will be dedicated to the gay and lesbian victims of the Holocaust. And in February, construction will begin on another new monument dedicated to the Sinti and Roma, often called Gypsies, who died in the Nazi camps.

    "The road is finally clear for these monuments to be erected and inaugurated," said German Cultural Minister Bernd Neumann on Monday.

    The announcement has been long in coming. Despite Berlin's willingness to call attention to its often dark and tragic history, commemorating the Holocaust has been a controversial undertaking. The stark, concrete pillars of the Jewish memorial, which opened in 2005, were originally conceived of as a monument to all of the Nazi's victims. But a German activist, Lea Rosh, led a contentious public effort to associate it solely with Jews killed in the Holocaust. That left advocates for other groups persecuted and murdered by the Nazis -- homosexuals and Gypsies, as well as the handicapped, Jehovah's Witnesses and Soviet prisoners of war -- looking for memorials of their own.

    Berlin's Memorial Mile


    Groups representing both the homosexuals and the Gypsies began many years ago to plan for their own plot on Berlin's memorial mile. But they were both stalled, not only by long processes to secure land and funding, but also by contentious infighting over what the memorials should look like and to whom, precisely, they should be dedicated.

    For the Sinti and Roma, the dispute has been raging for years, with construction of the fountain to commemorate the 500,000 Sinti and Roma who died in the Holocaust originally set for 2004. But two separate groups representing Gypsies in Germany could not agree on the inscription, and the project stalled -- transforming a rickety wooden sign marking the spot across the street from the German parliament building as an unintended monument to bitter infighting. Even the 2006 agreement by the German government to provide funding failed to resolve the stalemate.

    The design calls for a fountain conceived by Israeli sculptor Dani Karavan, inscribed with a poem called "Auschwitz" by Italian poet Santino Spinelli. A triangular pillar will jut out of the fountain with a rose placed on the top of it. Once a day, the pillar will sink down into the fountain and the flower will be replaced. The project is expected to cost €2 million ($2.95 million). Construction is now set to begin in February.

    Plans for a monument to homosexual Holocaust victims (the Nazis imprisoned 54,000 homosexuals and some 7,000 died in concentration and work camps) were delayed by a similar dispute. In 2003, the German government approved plans for a €600,000 memorial, but some advocacy groups objected to one facet of the design: a video of two men kissing that would play on an endless loop at one end of the monument. The video, they argued, did not recognize the suffering of lesbians as well as gay men. In the final design, a video of two women kissing will rotate every two years with the video of a male couple.

    . . .
     

    continued

    How Many More Monuments for Berlin?

    Still, even when both memorials are finished, it is hard not to wonder if more are on the way. A group representing those imprisoned and sentenced to death for deserting the German army is also interested in a memorial. The Third Reich likewise persecuted Jehovah’s Witnesses as a group and also killed thousands of handicapped people. None of those groups have a prominent place in central Berlin.

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  44. Poke646,0 says:

    I thought it would be too hackneyed to bring up but I haven’t seen the obvious Orwell quote anywhere. Something like ‘If you want to erase a people, start with their history.”

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  45. @Blanco
    Who among Malcolm X and MLK was a slave-owner?

    So if your heroes lived in a time after slavery was abolished, you get to kill cops, huh? Glad we have that settled.

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  46. @Blanco
    the chicken are coming back to roost. I always say if you step in shit it doesn't matter how much u try to clean your choose the stink will remain. Your forefathers didn't do u a favour, they betrayed you. Let this be a lesson to you all.

    So your lesson is that people should choose their forefathers more carefully. That’s about what we’d expect from someone who says “clean your choose.”

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