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By the end of his second term, President Ronald Reagan, who had called the Soviet Union an “evil empire,” was strolling through Red Square with Russians slapping him on the back.

Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive.

And how have we husbanded the fruits of our Cold War triumph?

This month, China’s leader-for-life Xi Jinping stood beside Vladimir Putin as 3,000 Chinese troops maneuvered with 300,000 Russians, 1,000 planes and 900 tanks in Moscow’s largest military exercise in 40 years.

An uncoded message to the West from the East.

Richard Nixon’s great achievement in bringing Peking in from the cold, and Reagan’s great achievement of ending the Cold War, are history.

Bolshevism may be dead, but Russian nationalism, awakened by NATO’s quick march to Russia’s ancient frontiers, is alive and well.

Russia appears to have given up on the West and accepted that its hopes for better times with President Donald Trump are not to be.

U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley is berating Russia for secretly trading with North Korea in violation of U.N. sanctions, saying, “Lying, cheating, and rogue behavior have become the new norm of the Russian culture.”

Cold wars don’t get much colder than defaming another country’s culture as morally debased.

The U.S. has also signaled that it may start supplying naval and anti-aircraft weaponry to Ukraine, as Russia is being warned to cease its inspections of ships passing from the Black Sea through the Kerch Strait into the Sea of Azov.

The three-mile-wide strait lies between Crimea and Kerch Peninsula. In Russia’s eyes, both banks of the strait are Russian national territory.

With U.S. backing, Ukraine has decided to build a naval base on the Sea of Azov to “create conditions for rebuffing the aggressive actions of the Russian Federation in this region.”

Kiev has several patrol boats in the Sea of Azov, with a few more to be transferred there in coming months. Russia’s navy could sink those boats and wipe out that base in minutes.

Are we going to send our Navy across the Black Sea to protect Ukraine’s naval rights inside a sea that has been as historically Russian as the Chesapeake Bay is historically American?

Poland this week invited the U.S. to establish a major base on its soil, for which Poland would pay two billion dollars, to be called “Fort Trump.”

Trump seemed to like the idea, and the name.

Yet, the Bush II decision to install a missile defense system in Poland brought a Kremlin counter-move: the installation of nuclear-capable Iskander cruise missiles in Kaliningrad, the former German territory on Poland’s northern border annexed by Stalin at the end of World War II.

ORDER IT NOW

In the Balkans, over Russian protests, the U.S. is moving to bring Macedonia into NATO. But before Macedonia can join, half its voters have to come out on Sept. 30 to approve a change in the nation’s name to North Macedonia. This is to mollify Greece, which claims the birthplace of Alexander the Great as it own.

Where are we going with all this?

With U.S. warships making regular visits into the Eastern Baltic and Black Sea, the possibility of a new base in Poland, and growing lethal aid to Ukraine to fight pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass and the Russian navy on the Sea of Azov, are we not crowding the Russians a bit?

Are we confident the Russians will always back down?

When Georgia, believing it could kick Russian peacekeepers out and re-annex its seceded province of South Ossetia, attacked in August 2008, the Russian Army came crashing in and ran the Georgians out in 48 hours.

George W. Bush wisely decided not to issue an ultimatum or send troops. He ignored the hawks in his own party who had helped goad him into the great debacle of his presidency: Iraq.

So, what exactly is the U.S. grand strategy with regard to Russia?

What might be called the McCain wing of the Republican Party has sought to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, which would make the containment of Russia America’s policy in perpetuity.

Are the American people aware of the costs and risks inherent in such a policy? What are the prospects of Russia yielding always to U.S. demands? And are we not today stretched awfully thin?

Our share of the global economy is much shrunken from Reagan’s time. Our deficit is approaching $1 trillion. Our debt is surging toward 100 percent of GDP. Entitlements are consuming our national wealth.

We are committed to containing the two other greatest powers, Russia and China. We are tied down militarily in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen, with the War Party beating the drums for another and larger war — with Iran. And we are sanctioning adversaries and allies for not following our leadership of the West and the world.

In looking at America’s global commitments, greatly expanded since our Cold War victory, one word come to mind: unsustainable.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2018 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Realist says:

    Has Russia Given Up on the West?

    Yes, if they have any sense at all.

    • Agree: Mike P, reiner Tor
    • Replies: @yurivku
  2. Isabella says:

    Has Russia given up on the West? In a word – Yes, Yes and Yes.

    You can find this from a few sources. The Editor – in – Chief of RT and Sputnik News, Marguerite Simonyan, wrote an article not that long ago, addressed directly to you. To The “West”. To the Anglo Fascist Empire. To America. “We came to you in friendship and admiration” she said, in effect, “and you have done nothing but abuse us, mock us, spit on us Well, to hell with you. We used to admire you. Now we dont. We used to want to be like you. Now, we dont”.

    In a speech also, although I’m sorry I cannot remember which one, President Putin also said, in effect “we made every effort to be friends. We thought the Cold War 1 was due to ideology – to Communism. When that was dismantled and dropped by Russia, we thought you would accept our outstretched hand of friendship. To quote a Russian poem , we believed you “would to us the sword present” But you didn’t. You abused our country, destroyed our industries, our pride, even, for a short while, our sovereignty. [During the 1990's "Shock and Awe" economic destruction of Russia].

    We were prepared to forgive this and still try and work with you, but you have done nothing but tell lies about us, abuse us, pile on sanctions, and steal our properties. Now, we have done. We have made our minds up, and there is no going back. We will do what we need to make our country grow, to be strong and happy. You can do what you want. Frankly, we dont care any more”.

    Once a few years back, in a small Russian town, an enterprising garage sold door mats with the American flag on them, for people to wipe their feet. They sold out in hours. However, it was a momentary rage and Russians are very decent, kindly people. I think they have not repeated that moment of anger.
    But if you watch Vesti English – excerpts are on YouTube – watch “60 minutes”, watch Vecher “or Evening” excerpts, watch Kislyak, the popular presenters. See how they talk to Russia in that critical hour after workers get home and have diner and watch an evening hour of current affairs. They show every lie, every manipulation, every example of American aggression, and they laugh at every American stupidity.
    They are nice people, and if you go there as an American citizen, they will be kind to you. But when it comes to nations, and international trust – they’ve had it with you. They’ve turned their back. And you brought it on yourselves. As the Russian saying goes “as you return my hand extended to you, so will I return your action”

    • Replies: @anonymous
  3. The Scalpel says: • Website

    debt to GDP has been over 100% since 2013

    • Replies: @anon
  4. KenH says:

    Putin is like a battered wife who keeps making excuses for the abuser. Putin’s great at going through the motions with military parades and boasts about new weapons systems then turns the other cheek and endlessly whines about violations of international law after every deliberate provocation.

    I’m beginning to think Putin is the wrong man to lead Russia because his policy of deference, good will and steadfast refusal to retaliate in the face of endless insults and acts of aggression by (((America))) and Israel is making matters worse, not better, for Russia. I don’t know what more he needs to prove that America is only playing him for a fool, doesn’t respect him and is only teasing him with the prospect of a partnership so he remains tentative.

    It’s one thing to exercise restraint but it’s quite another to be so suicidal in your delusions of eventual Western acceptance that it’s irreparably harming Russian interests.

    There needs to be a countervailing power to check Zio-American-Israeli aggression but Putin is not up to the task. I never thought I’d wax nostalgic for the old Soviet Union, but here I am.

    • Agree: Realist
  5. As shown in this article, there is a little-discussed unintended consequence of the anti-Russia sanctions that could significantly impact some U.S. consumers:

    https://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2018/08/another-unintended-consequence-of.html

    As is typical in Washington, there are a wide range of unanticipated consequences directly connected to its geopolitical maneuvering.

  6. Zogby says:
    @KenH

    I agree. Putin has outlived his usefulness and become meek. He did some good things for his country and its people, but has exhausted his role in Russia’s history. Russia needs a new leader with energy. It is tragic that Putin was elected again for a 4th time. Curiously it is similar with Germany where Merkel, originally a good leader, outlived her usefulness and became an albatross around Germany’s neck.

    It is interesting to see if and how long Russia’s armed forces will continue to tolerate being sacrificed as pawns by their political leader in order to spare the lives of enemy soldiers and kowtow to the hegemonic ambitions of hostile powers.

  7. “Bolshevism may be dead……”

    It’s alive and well in America and much of the west.

  8. The headline asks a woefully wrong question. The west gave up on Putin because he has proven himself an international thug and Tsarist revanchist. He’s not satisfied with Russia as it is, which he could build up into a great country. Instead, he has to revivify the Tsarist empire and take Ukraine, and other neighbors, away from their rightful owners.

    Buchanan would have the world standby, as it did with the Czechoslovakia, and watch Putin drag the world into another unnecessary war. WW2 was unnecessary, but, recall, that Hitler declared war on us, not the other way around.

    Buchanan would have us ignore the Ukrainian’s plight as the world ignored Czechoslovakia’s. Ukrainians are willing to fight for themselves. They need help. Give it to them. Putin will find that Ukraine is not so easy to swallow as Poland was for Germany.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: Herald
  9. @KenH

    Agree. Putin is a great man who’s done an incredible job of restoring Russia but it’s time to step aside and allow a younger, more aggressive man to take charge.

    It’s just too bad that the Chinese are too timid to tell America to go fuck itself.

  10. Anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Entitlements are consuming our national wealth, indeed. More specifically, mooching Blacks and Hispanics are consuming hard working Whites families’ wealth.

    Federal Budget Contribution, 2014
    • Whites: +$2,795 per capita surplus
    • Hispanics: -$7,700 per capita deficit
    • Blacks: -$10,016 per capita deficit

    Diversity is our greatest expense. But nobody wants to piss off the International Jewsus, so we keep working and paying. Everybody sing along…Red and yellow, black and white, they are precious, in his sight.

  11. It appears that Putin is impotent to stand up to the Brussels – Washington D.C. – Jerusalem – Berlin Axis of Evil. Could that be construed as evidence that the Axis is such a formidable iron fortress that even a tough guy like Putin can’t put a dent in it?

    If Russia and China don’t collaborate soon, then the Axis will have complete, heavy handed global domination, replete with policies and infrastructure to make certain it is perpetually unchallenged.

    Seems to me that I read something about this in the Bible.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Ben Sampson
  12. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Isabella

    “They are nice people, and if you go there as an American citizen, they will be kind to you.”

    If what you’re saying about the Russian people is true — and I’ve no reason to dispute it — then it may have something to do with their years under Communist rule. The corruption, the lies, the suppression of dissidence, and all the other harm done to them by their rulers ingrained a healthy distrust of government and an insight that the subjects of such a system can still be good people.

    Americans aren’t there yet. Most of us still find it not only acceptable for the neighbor kid to die serving Uncle Sam, but something to celebrate as his name goes up on another green sign along a potholed bridge. This national inclination to identify with one’s rulers, a Washington Syndrome, is pumped into our eyes and ears from birth. Even on this relatively dissident website, many become invested in the Red v Blue, whose Beltway members when offstage attend each other’s weddings and hold each other up above the rule of law.

    Pundits like Mr. Buchanan (especially when writing about international affairs) are Beltloops who help to keep the bleating within acceptable channels. Read this column again, and note every “we/us/our” that references Washington. Is pronoun propaganda like that as prevalent in Russia or, for that matter, anywhere else outside “USA!”?

    • Replies: @RVBlake
    , @HallParvey
  13. one word come to mind: unsustainable.

    From our perspective, yes. From their perspective the word is: drainage.

  14. TheOldOne says:

    Quartermaster:

    Gosh, now UNZ has a resident cuck–that would be YOU!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  15. RVBlake says:
    @anonymous

    Yes…The “our triumph” and “our victory” over the Cold War bracketing this article is grating.

    • Replies: @Herald
  16. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheOldOne

    Quartermaster has been stationed here for years. Conventionally “Right” on most issues, but weirdly anti-Putin, especially when Ukraine can be worked into the comment. A Zbig Boy if American, but likely with some connection to Eastern Europe and berserked personally or ancestrally over Russia.

  17. Has Russia Given Up on the West?

    Yes.

  18. Anon[516] • Disclaimer says:

    Turkey is part of NATO but edging closer to Russia.

    NATO doesn’t means so much.

  19. @Quartermaster

    the muuh Russia bad and Putin is Hitler only works in your echo chamber. Us normal folks literally laugh at you propaganda peddlers.

  20. El Dato says:
    @Quartermaster

    Woah, has been McCain been miraculously revived?

    Seeing how he has become Neocon Jesus, it wouldn’t surprise me.

    Putin will find that Ukraine is not so easy to swallow as Poland was for Germany.

    That makes no sense at all.

  21. @KenH

    So Putin must react to every provocation, immediately.
    No.
    He should wait and accept the provocations, just as he has, and at the same time plan his own provocations.
    If you’re the prey in a relationship, you react to stimulus. If you’re the predator, you create the stimulus. Better to be the predator.
    The MSM should be ignored since they will blame Putin, no matter what. And, what difference does that make in Russia.

    • Replies: @Zogby
  22. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    It appears that Putin is impotent to stand up to the Brussels – Washington D.C. – Jerusalem – Berlin Axis of Evil. Could that be construed as evidence that the Axis is such a formidable iron fortress that even a tough guy like Putin can’t put a dent in it?

    Appearances can be deceiving.

    Remember the Wizard of Oz was just a flim flam man behind a curtain.
    Axis control is actually in London. Has been for several hundred years.

  23. Good article. Only minor complaint is with the line:

    “Entitlements are consuming our national wealth.”

    We already paid for our entitlements and that is why we are entitled to them. The military is consuming our national wealth.

    • Agree: RVBlake
    • Replies: @RVBlake
    , @anon
  24. @anonymous

    Even on this relatively dissident website, many become invested in the Red v Blue.

    Every pressure vessel needs a popoff valve to ensure safety for the vessel.

  25. Yee says:

    anonymous[340],

    “Pundits like Mr. Buchanan (especially when writing about international affairs)…”

    I don’t think Mr. Buchanan is some pundit. I think he just represents the Kissinger side – take China first. There’s another side in Washington that wants to take Russia first. Mind you, their difference is only which one to attack first, not saying to let the other one go free.

  26. Herald says:
    @RVBlake

    As you and @anonymous tell us Buchanan’s grating articles are full of subtle propaganda. He likes to point out some of the excesses of US foreign policy, while always leaving room for Washington to retain credibility.

    What Buchanan won’t admit is that since WWII, at the very least, US foreign policy has been a complete and utter disaster both for the world at large and for the US itself. What’s even worse is that none of this has happened by accident but is the inevitable result of the long term US aim to exert hegemony over all other countries, excepting of course the special one.

    Buchanan clearly works on behalf of the Deep State, though whether he knows this or not is another matter.

    • Replies: @Sir Laucelot Canning
  27. RVBlake says:
    @flashlight joe

    Yes, it has always been annoying the way Pat lumps Social Security and Medicare with welfare.

    • Replies: @Patricus
  28. Zogby says:
    @HallParvey

    He should wait and accept the provocations, just as he has, and at the same time plan his own provocations.

    Can you elaborate on what provocations you envision Russia making in your attempt to paint impotence as clever patience?
    Are you talking about cyber attacks? About the alleged election meddling? About the Skripals? Russia denies all these. Russia routinely apologetically denies every accusation levelled at it by Western media as if there’s some reason to apologize. Just today I saw an official Kremlin denial in Tass after the Guardian published a story accusing Russia of secretly plotting to spring Assange out of London. Why deny this? What difference does it make if the British believe it? The denial makes Russia look pathetic even if the event never happened.
    Are you referring to Putin’s bluster about super-weapons? That was done before the election as what looks like electioneering and sounds mostly hyperbolic. What good is having weapons when you don’t use them when they should be used? I saw Russia proudly state how the S-400 has become a popular sell due to the war in Syria. Except what? That Russia has never used the S-400 in combat! The Syrians have used the shorter range Pantsir and Buk, and Russia has used the short range Tor against UAVs. So it’s those weapon systems that have proven themselves, not the S-400, and not its predecessor the S-300. Russia’s abstension of testing the S-400 in combat when it’s so badly needed projects fear the system is not as hot as it’s marketed to be.

    • Replies: @HallParvey
    , @Realist
  29. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Scalpel

    Does debt has any relation to GDP?

  30. No, Russia and Russians have not given up on USA and perhaps never will. Don’t underestimate American soft power – the power of McDonalds, Hollywood, music, fashion, Ivy League prestige, etc. 90% of East Europeans will give an arm and a leg to get to America and so will perhaps 30% of Russians. Remember, they dismantled a world power state that they had primarily to become a part of the “West”, to be like America and Americans. Where do their rich send their sons and daughters to study? Where do they stash their wealth? What language do they wish to learn and acquire? And when they accomplish something, whether a sports medal or a new scientific breakthrough or a new weapon, whose respect and admiration do they desperately seek? Read their media (RT and Sputnik) carefully and you will find plenty of desperation there, from silly chest-thumping to get Western attention to well-argued pleas for friendship. Their whole media is full of “Look Ma, we can do it too, just like the Yanks”.

    And don’t underestimate American hard power as well. Behind Putin’s perpetual references to “Our American partners, our Western partners” lies a realistic understanding of military realities. His fans may talk of his strategic geopolitical skills, the skills of a chess grandmaster. The man himself never boasts as the complicated and powerful American geopolitical maneuvers keep the man perpetually puzzled. The man may be clever, but he is heading an economically and politically weak state. Yes, Russian nationalism is very much alive; so is Russia’s desire to be a part of the West, even as a junior partner.

  31. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @flashlight joe

    Thanks.

    Single Payer Policy is criticized on assumptions and probabilities of factors and scenarios taht will impact the current health care policy same way but wont save more that what Medicare for All promises.

    —–

    “The $11 Trillion Question Chris Cillizza Can’t Answer
    The key thing to remember is that Americans already pay enough in taxes to fund a decent Medicare-for-all system — we just have a colossal amount of wasteful spending by
    Ryan Cooper–https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/09/21/11-trillion-question-chris-cillizza-cant-answer

    https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2018/sep/18/andrew-gillum/fact-checking-andrew-gillum-cost-medicare-all/ doesn’t do a good job in its effort to sow doubt

    https://theweek.com/articles/791236/fact-checkers-have-medicareforall-problem

    https://www.mercatus.org/system/files/blahous-costs-medicare-mercatus-working-paper-v1_1.pdf

  32. @Zogby

    He could do any number of things. Counterfeiting American currency comes to mind. Barack the First managed to double the national debt that way. Think about what a profusion of funny money would do to the “economy”. Distribution? Dump it out of the back of trucks in any city.

    The electric power grid. All those unguarded high voltage transmission lines.
    Water supplies. Dams. A container ship filled with something nasty.

    Then again, remember that he has a lot of nuclear firecrackers. They don’t ALL have to be used at once. Just one. Pick a spot, any spot.

    What would the American reaction be? Instant human eradication? I don’t think so.
    Why? Because even the most rabid mad dog has a family. And loved ones. I grant you that stupidity can overrule good sense, but I have faith in the natural cowardice of humanity, especially warmongers.

    Perhaps we should go back to teaching schoolchildren to hide under their desks as we did in the fifties.

  33. Cyrano says:

    The US policy towards Russia can be summed up by paraphrasing that famous line from Cool Hand Luke: What we have here is failure to capitulate. US thought that Russia is going to stay down. It took them what – less than 10 years under that buffoon Yeltsin to realize with whom they are dealing in the west and that it’s time to get up and fight again.

    It cracks me up when they say that the cold war was about the clash of ideologies. Maybe communism can still qualify as an ideology, but how does creatively ripping off someone out of their money qualify as an “ideology”?

    There is always going to be a rivalry between US and Russia – regardless of the “ideologies”. It never was about communism, it was about eliminating competition and then inventing a new one – China, because they just didn’t see it coming. That’s how clueless they are. They though that China is going to be just a giant Sri Lanka – source of cheap labor, a sweat shop for the smart folks in the west. Because, let’s face it – who has ever gotten rich by labor alone – right?

    • Agree: Andrei Martyanov
    • Replies: @anon
  34. anon[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cyrano

    That’s how clueless they are

    They still don’t know what is coming next after China or after 2008 .

  35. anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @seeing-thru

    There is no free lunch Christian or Whites or both can’t dream of continued prosperity ,independence ,cultural survival, and continued advancement in social ,financial, and religious spheres while staying conspicuously absent from the analysis of the effects of the social economic political costs of Israel enjoying and exerting free hand on US-Russia-EU policy making decisions.

  36. @seeing-thru

    And you know all of this how? Maybe because you wish it were so? You sound so sure of yourself, you must live in downtown Moscow. And I play short stop for the White Sox.

    • Replies: @seeing-thru
  37. @Herald

    Herald, Pat is no deep stater. He has actually been a victim of the deep state. Open your eyes and you will see that unz has no deep state contributors. You publicly display your ignorance here.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  38. @Quartermaster

    “The west gave up on Putin because he has proven himself an international thug and Tsarist revanchist.”

    Puhleez, the West gave up on Putin when he closed the window on the asset-stripping fire-sale that allowed the West to plunder the former USSR constituents of the Russian Federation. The West had no patience for Ukraine when it was making nice with Russia, so it overthrew the elected and duly seated Ukranian government and replaced it with the current dubious one without even bothering to meet the lawful requirements of the Ukranian constitution.

    At least Putin and the Russians try to put on a good show of living up to the legalities and formalities of the conventions to which they are party; a sober analysis of the West’s behaviour shows that it has not.

    “They are nice people, and if you go there as an American citizen, they will be kind to you.”

    The most interesting thing my Russian friends once said to me was, “We can drink with you; you have a Russian soul.”

  39. Russia’s ancient frontiers

    Right, ancient frontiers that go all the way back to the 17th century, or in some cases (like Crimea or the Baltics ) the 18th. Russians are masters at getting foreign dupes to believe the propaganda. China has ancient frontiers, Iran has ancient frontiers, even France has ancient frontiers. Russia as a state is about two centuries older than the United States. It is an upstart country masquerading as an ancient civilization.

    • Replies: @byrresheim
  40. Patricus says:
    @RVBlake

    Social Security and Medicare are pay as we go welfare programs. We all paid and pay into these but these are payments for the retirement of previous generations. We have no estate nor contractual right to our payments. Congress can eliminate our rights to receive payments with a vote. This is how it was set up in the 1930s. It was challenged in the Supreme Court. The challenge was defeated.

    Luckily we have tens of millions of legal and illegal immigrants to shore up our “entitlements”. Hopefully most of them get off Medicaid soon.

  41. Realist says:
    @Zogby

    I saw Russia proudly state how the S-400 has become a popular sell due to the war in Syria. Except what? That Russia has never used the S-400 in combat!

    Exactly. If Russia’s weapons are so great Putin should declare a no fly zone , to apply to ALL non invited aircraft over Syrian territory. And shoot dawn ALL that do not comply.

    • Replies: @Realist
  42. Rurik says:

    Richard Nixon’s great achievement in bringing Peking in from the cold

    not too sure about that

    seems to me ‘bringing Peking in from the cold’, (in order to open markets for greedy capitalists), has only led to an ascendant China and massive trade deficits and sabre rattling.

    Bolshevism may be dead

    nope

    the whole Trump Derangement Syndrome is a direct manifestation of modern Bolshevism = murderous envy for the productive class/race.

    Russia appears to have given up on the West and accepted that its hopes for better times with President Donald Trump are not to be.

    if you’ll allow me..

    Russia appears to have given up on the (((anti-West))) and accepted that its hopes for better times with President Donald Trump are not to be.

    U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley …, …saying, “Lying, cheating, and rogue behavior have become the new norm of the Russian culture.”

    Clearly, she’s projecting

    Ukraine has decided to build a naval base on the Sea of Azov

    Poland this week invited the U.S. to establish a major base on its soil

    U.S. warships making regular visits into the Eastern Baltic and Black Sea, the possibility of a new base in Poland, and growing lethal aid to Ukraine to fight pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass and the Russian navy on the Sea of Azov,

    All Putin has to do is tell Poland and Ukraine and the Baltic states, etc.., that Soviet crimes, (which Russians also suffered), were a temporary abomination that all of the people under its monstrous yoke were forced to suffer. And that every nation now liberated from that evil regime, should with all haste remove any monuments to those woebegone days, and hail a new dawn in Russian / European relations.

    The Fiend will contort with rage, but let it.

    So, what exactly is the U.S. grand strategy with regard to Russia?

    duh

    the same as it is with everybody. Submit to Zion, or die.

    And we are sanctioning adversaries and allies for not following our leadership of the West and the world.

    don’t you mean (((our))) leadership ?

    In looking at America’s global commitments, greatly expanded since our Cold War victory, one word come to mind: unsustainable.

    well, it’s that too

    but I confess the word formulating in my mind was ‘insane’.

    .

    • Agree: byrresheim
  43. Realist says:
    @Realist

    .

    ..shoot dawn ALL..

    Should read …shoot down ALL…

  44. Anon[348] • Disclaimer says:

    George W. Bush wisely decided not to issue an ultimatum or send troops. He ignored the hawks in his own party who had helped goad him into the great debacle of his presidency: Iraq.

    Bush sent additional weapons to Sakashviili:

    Bush Announces $1 Billion in Aid for Georgia

  45. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    Nope, I don’t know the future, but I do know present reality and facts. Russia’s GDP is 6.78% America’s – check it out for yourself. Eastern Europeans line-up, hats in hand, to get immigration to the US – check out the US immigration statistics. Russia desire to be “partners” with the west is right out of Putin and Lavrov speeches, not my imagination. Check out their speeches on RT and Sputnik, which are Russian media BTW.

    Putin may be a clever fellow, but he is leading a very weak state. And it shows in several ways. In his perpetual dithering; in his constant pleas and entreaties to the west to please show us some respect and kindness; and in his desperate boasts about non-existent weapons.

    American policy, especially now under Trump, is diabolically clever and powerful in a Machiavellian way. Trump is tightening his grip over both China and Russia – and winning IMHO. See China caving in under sanctions? If you don’t, you need to read the news a little more carefully. Analyze the items and tariff rates that the two sides have imposed on each other, they tell their own story.

    Should we like the way the world is heading? Of course not. Should we support one side or the other? Of course not. They are all a bunch of power-mad, ruthless tyrants and other things besides, which I hesitate to say out of a sense of politeness. Should we think more, research more, and analyze more? Of course, we must. The last flicker of hope is that people come to understand the world a little better and try to nudge it towards kinder, more ethical and more moral directions. Now that is a pipe dream for you and me!

    • Replies: @myself
  46. @Peter Akuleyev

    True.
    Unfortunately, most of our present-day conflicts are a lot more transparent to people with a minimum of historical knowledge, and, equally unfortunately, even that minimum is sorrowfully rare.

  47. Tsigantes says:

    “The three-mile-wide strait lies between Crimea and Kerch Peninsula. In Russia’s eyes, both banks of the strait are Russian national territory.”

    Russia, and the rest of the world thinks this because in fact it is Russian territory.

  48. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    The problem is the Jewish West hasn’t given up on Russia(for takeover).

  49. myself says:
    @seeing-thru

    Russia’s GDP is 6.78% America’s – check it out for yourself

    That’s a (roughly) correct figure, though I’ve seen it work out to be 8% or so. That’s in exchange rate terms vis-a-vis U.S. Dollars.

    Or “how cheaply you could buy Russian goods and services on the global market, if the Russians sold them to you”. Layman’s definition, I know; that’s how it was explained to me by an economist.

    But “exchange rates” aren’t everything. For one thing, they can fluctuate much more and much more quickly than actual real world economic output, and also they can fail to reflect the actual quantity of the production within a national economy.

    A robot, industrial machine, computer or bridge produced in Russia would seem to be “worth” less than the exact same item produced in America with American costs, wages and inputs. But in real terms (note the phrase “exact same item”), it’s the same.

    So we have to look at Purchasing Power Parity – or in simple terms, “what an item produced in another country would cost, in U.S. Dollars, to make in the nation issuing the Dollars, namely in the U.S.” After all, the exact same item, should “cost” the exactly same.

    In real terms, Russia’s economy is not 6.78% of the United States’, though it is that in Dollar terms.

    Going by the International Monetary Fund’s numbers (more or less considered the “gold standard”), at the end of 2017, Russia’s economy was 20%, or 1/5, that of the U.S. Still not great, by any means, but it means Russia is no pushover.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  50. Jivilov says:

    What matters is debt servicing relative to revenue. In 2015 it was 6% of federal spending ( just over 1% of GDP). By comparison debt servicing for France and Britain before the French Revolution was 60 and 70% respectively. (Sources: nationalpriorities.org and Simon Schama’s Citizens: A Chronicle of the French Revolution)

  51. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sir Laucelot Canning

    I agree with Herald: “Buchanan clearly works on behalf of the Deep State, though whether he knows this or not is another matter.”

    Mr. Buchanan criticizes “our” conduct abroad from the perspective of a right-sized imperialist. He gratuitously refers to the political leaders of “adversaries” as “autocratic,” “dictatorial,” etc. He also serves the Establishment by reinforcing the national, childish notion that Uncle Sam, while he may be excessive with respect to resources and naive about the achievability of objectives, is always the good guy. In his view, “we” ideally should be running the world. Herald has charitably said, in his last phrase of the quoted sentence, that Mr. Buchanan may not realize this about himself.

    This website has another, overt “deep state contributor.” Mr. Napolitano for at least the past ten months has been carrying water for Mr. Mueller and the rest of the anti-Russia hysteria. I and other commenters have pointed this out repeatedly, with no substantial rebuttal from you or anyone else.

    If you’re willing to give this some careful review and critical thought, then you may want to withdraw or amend your statement about the public display of ignorance.

  52. Alfa158 says:
    @myself

    Has anyone factored in the “contribution” to the GDP of deficit spending that can never be paid off by all government levels, and trade deficits? I have no idea what Russia’s numbers are for those, but the US’s are enormous. It seems logical that computing the actual strength of an economy should involve factoring out unsustainable activity which is based on trading IOU’s and Monopoly money.

  53. Perfectly said. Putin is looking for a deal with the west/americans that he finds acceptable. the Khazars control America and what they want is to consume Russia not deal with them as equals.

    Putin is weak, endlessly tentative and a beacon for exploitation by the western mind. I grew up in this and I know the western mind..all here in the west, all who live here have achieved that same mind… even the former slaves who are now well and truly acculturated capitalists with the hardest of hearts

    as a western citizen just live like Putin with your neighbours, ‘friends’, co-workers etc., the way Putin relates with the western nations, and see what happen to you. they will all try to rip you off, pile insult upon insult on you, try to get you to do all the dirty work, borrow your money and don’t pay you back. and expectant of your lack of aggression they will say the worst about your fearless of any retaliation from you

    very rarely will anyone even think of you in a positive light and defend your interest, speak up about your decent ways and humane comportment. there are such people in the west, yes. but they are like fraction of 1%. and they do not get involved for they must protect their own existence first. they may get into a revolutionary movement and succeed and become famous like Castro and Chavez.

    but most of such people get killed early anyway. those who live keep quiet maybe until there is n opportunity to make a wide positive impact

    since i was a child I knew Putins behavior is nonsense, utterly foolish..and the Israelis and Americans have made him pay for his nonsense. I agree it is time for Putin to go..his usefulness is over. Putin is going to cause the very thing the Saker argues he is trying to avoid..war.

    if you are prepared to fight to the death, to give a good as you get or worse… then and only then you can keep the bullies off..your enemies. only in that circumstance will they respect you and stay to hell away from you, stop trying to exploit you and make trouble for you

    Putin is farting in the wind

  54. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    mistake! Putin is no tough guy..certainly not now. maybe when he put Georgia and Ossetia to the sword. but he aint no toughie now.

    Putin does not understand relative to the west that preparedness to stand and fight to the death, to give as good as or better than he gets… is the way to stop the west.

    Putin is playing good man to the western evil foil. a ‘good’ white guy like Putin was hung up on a cross once..with nails in his feet and hands. Putin must have seen a cross he would like to be similarly hung up on. or maybe the west has some exquisite tortures lined up for Mister P, a-la Gaddafi.

    oh mi god! Pheeeeew

    Putin told them he has all kinds of superior weapons, but they are not bothered about that at all. they know Putin is to much of a wimp to use them so they are all up in his face.

    I don’t understand Putin at all. I really thought he was a bad dude. so why did he go into Syria in the face of the Anglo/Zionists if he was not prepared to go all the way.

    I am not a war monger..wish totally to avoid ww3! but if Putin does not stand up the west will push him until he has to fight or step down for a real Russian to stand up. somebody must have convinced Putin that the west really wants peace..that to win peace with them all he has to do is to turn the other cheek for 20 straight years

    Right!

  55. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s not just “Russia”, Mr. Buchanan. It’s “Christian” Russia. They have a leader who is leading his people back to their Christian roots, and the more Christian that country becomes, the more the west hates them. When they were atheistic communists, we said it was our “Uncle Joe” leading them. Now, we call him “Hitler.”

    Never did I dream that Stalin was our uncle, but I was wrong. It is very obvious at this point that he was.

  56. anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    “Has Russia given up on the west”.

    The west (dominated by Jewish neocons, remember the project for a new American century?) never gave Russia a chance.

  57. anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump pledged better relations with Russia on the campaign trail. I believe in his heart that is still what he wants. Unfortunately he is surrounded by Putin hating Ziocons like Pence, Haley, Mattis, Bolton, Pompeo, Rosenstein, Kushner. This Mueller investigation is what the Ziocons are using to force him into going along with their plan, esp. in Syria and Ukraine. Any overture whatsoever to Assad and Putin and they will immediately use that as evidence for his “collusion”.

    I have lost all respect for Jeff Sessions. He is truly the most worthless AG on record. Trump was right when he said he does not have an AG. Rod Rosenstein should’ve been fired by now and the bullshit Mueller investigation terminated. In fact, he should’ve launched an investigation into both of these treasonous rats for their involvement in the Clinton Uranium One scandal. Instead Rosenstein might even get to keep his job. If Trump doesn’t fire him on Thurs I will assume Trump is part of the deep state as well, despite railing against them at every turn.

    Haley should’ve been fired long ago. That crazed warmonger is letting the power go to her head, basically a dog to Israel, and she thinks she calls the shots on who America goes to war with. I highly suspect she wrote the anonymous op-ed for the NYT.

    As long as the Mueller investigation is going on, Trump can’t do anything with Russia and Syria but what the Ziocons want. He needs to fire Rosenstein, Sessions, Haley, Bolton, Kelly, Pompeo and Mattis, get a real AG who can clean house at the DOJ, FBI, NHS, State Dept, and get on with the business of running the country the way pledged to.

  58. yurivku says:
    @Realist

    Don’t worry. We had. And if couple of years it was a question of relation to goverments, now it’s for people who elected their goverments also.

  59. And how have we husbanded the fruits of our Cold War triumph?

    The real question how the Russians have husbanded the fruits of their Cold War triumph. Because it wasn’t primarily to our benefit that they dismantled the Soviet state apparatus, it was to theirs. That they’ve squandered that victory over the Reds among them is plain, based on the fact that China is on the verge of overtaking Russia in terms of nominal GDP per capita. From the standpoint of median income (as opposed to lopsidedly wealthy Russian oligarchs who profit off their personal connections to Putin at the expense of ordinary Russians), I expect that China has overtaken Russia, given that Chinese car sales stood at 28.5m cars in 2017 vs Russia’s number of 1.6m. This means that on a per capita basis, Chinese car sales were almost 2x Russia’s, despite the fact that Chinese gasoline prices are about 50% higher (thanks to higher gasoline taxes) than Russia’s, and the tyrants who rule China impose significant roadblocks to car ownership in their major cities, including hefty tolls and registration fees.

    https://www.forbes.com/2010/04/19/china-tolls-car-travel-markets-economy-infrastructure.html#30d3c9dd20f5

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-04-25/in-china-the-license-plates-can-cost-more-than-the-car

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