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“If anyone is looking for a good lawyer,” said President Donald Trump ruefully, “I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen.” Michael Cohen is no Roy Cohn.

Tuesday, Trump’s ex-lawyer, staring at five years in prison, pled guilty to a campaign violation that may not even be a crime.

Cohen had fronted the cash, $130,000, to pay porn star Stormy Daniels for keeping quiet about a decade-old tryst with Trump. He had also brokered a deal whereby the National Enquirer bought the rights to a story about a Trump affair with a Playboy model, to kill it.

Cohen claims he and Trump thus conspired to violate federal law. But paying girlfriends to keep past indiscretions private is neither a crime nor a campaign violation. And Trump could legally contribute as much as he wished to his own campaign for president.

Would a Democratic House, assuming we get one, really impeach a president for paying hush money to old girlfriends?

Hence the high-fives among never-Trumpers are premature.

But if Cohen’s guilty plea and Tuesday’s conviction of campaign manager Paul Manafort do not imperil Trump today, what they portend is ominous. For Cohen handled Trump’s dealings for more than a decade and has pledged full cooperation with prosecutors from both the Southern District of New York and the Robert Mueller investigation.

Nothing that comes of this collaboration will be helpful to Trump.

Also, Manafort, now a convicted felon facing life in prison, has the most compelling of motives to “flip” and reveal anything that could be useful to Mueller and harmful to Trump.
Then there is the Mueller probe itself.

Twenty-six months after the Watergate break-in, President Nixon had resigned. Twenty-six months after the hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails, Mueller has yet to deliver hard evidence the Trump campaign colluded with Putin’s Russia, though this was his mandate.

However, having, for a year now, been marching White House aides and campaign associates of Trump before a grand jury, Mueller has to be holding more cards than he is showing. And even if they do not directly implicate the president, more indictments may be coming down.

Mueller may not have the power to haul the president before a grand jury or indict him. After all, it is Parliament that deposes and beheads the king, not the sheriff of Nottingham. But Mueller will file a report with the Department of Justice that will be sent to the House.

And as this Congress has only weeks left before the 2018 elections, it will be the new House that meets in January, which may well be Democratic, that will receive Mueller’s report.

Still, as of now, it is hard to see how two-thirds of a new Senate would convict this president of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Thus we are in for a hellish year.

ORDER IT NOW

Trump is not going to resign. To do so would open him up to grand jury subpoenas, federal charges and civil suits for the rest of his life. To resign would be to give up his sword and shield, and all of his immunity. He would be crazy to leave himself naked to his enemies.

No, given his belief that he is under attack by people who hate him and believe he is an illegitimate president, and seek to bring him down, he will use all the powers of the presidency in his fight for survival. And as he has shown, these powers are considerable: the power to rally his emotional following, to challenge courts, to fire Justice officials and FBI executives, to pull security clearances, to pardon the convicted.

Democrats who have grown giddy about taking the House should consider what a campaign to bring down a president, who is supported by a huge swath of the nation and has fighting allies in the press, would be like.

Why do it? Especially if they knew in advance the Senate would not convict.

That America has no desire for a political struggle to the death over impeachment is evident. Recognition of this reality is why the Democratic Party is assuring America that impeachment is not what they have in mind.

Today, it is Republicans leaders who are under pressure to break with Trump, denounce him, and call for new investigations into alleged collusion with the Russians. But if Democrats capture the House, then they will be the ones under intolerable pressure from their own media auxiliaries to pursue impeachment.

Taking the House would put newly elected Democrats under fire from the right for forming a lynch mob, and from the mainstream media for not doing their duty and moving immediately to impeach Trump.

Democrats have been laboring for two years to win back the House. But if they discover that the first duty demanded of them, by their own rabid followers, is to impeach President Trump, they may wonder why they were so eager to win it.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. “Why do it? Especially if they knew in advance the Senate would not convict.”

    What makes you so sure they couldn’t peel off twenty or so Republican Se nators to remove Trump? At least that many have opposed or disparaged him at some point in the past two years.

    The only thing stopping impeachment and removal today is the spectre of 20m hostile Trump supporters showing up in the Capital … it’s why they are working furiously to continue to disarm and track as much of the population as possible.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  2. anon[194] • Disclaimer says:

    There is no blue wave, other than Democrat dreams getting flushed down with Ty-D-Bol. Thus we are in for a Hell Seger! year.

  3. Here’s what the United States would look like under a Pence presidency:

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2017/09/impeaching-trump-and-america-under.html

    President Pence would do little to undo the political polarization that America has experienced over the past two decades since his voting record suggests that he leans rather heavily to the right side of the political spectrum.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  4. Maybe this is payback for the other impeachment attempt 20 years ago. Perhaps some dems have been waiting two decades for vengeance. Whatever Clinton’s faults, the GOP should not have opened that can of worms back then.

  5. One of two things will likely happen in November.

    Either the Republicans come out ahead in which case the left will say it was because of “Russian” interference and the election results are thus illegitimate. Or the Democrats will and they will not only be under pressure to impeach Trump but also to punish the deplorables who voted for him.

    Either way things are going to be ugly.

  6. Stick says:

    Well, this would constitute a real civil war. All because Obama and Hillary failed at rigging an election and failed at launching a coup. Good Times. Keep your powder dry.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Corvinus
  7. It seems likely that Dems will take the House. It seems unlikely that Mueller will end his investigation. It seems likely that The Donald will fire Sessions and Rosenjew. With a real AG Trump should be able to defeat this soft coup attempt. Whats next? A second special counsel? Assassination?

    Or will an earth quake/volcano intervene? Or a complete collapse of the U.S. economy? A war against Persia, Russia and China?

    How will the war on whiteness be resolved? What are the chances for a new era of peace and prosperity?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  8. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sally Snyder

    President Pence would do little to undo the political polarization that America has experienced over the past two decades since his voting record suggests that he leans rather heavily to the right side of the political spectrum.

    Leans right? Pence is so right-wing he flies in counter-clockwise circles.

    Pence would have grudging (exasperated) support from Trump followers, and ecstatic support from evangelicals and other cellar-Yeshuan types.

    Trump is the only current choice the liberals have. I suspect the real effort going on now is to prevent re-election. Give the vote to illegals and H1 visas, and that might be possible.

    • Replies: @Lars Porsena
  9. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stick

    Well, this would constitute a real civil war. All because Obama and Hillary failed at rigging an election and failed at launching a coup. Good Times. Keep your powder dry.

    Meh. Who are you going to shoot at? Your neighbors? The local messican ghetto? Cops in general?

    IMO, just like always throughout history, the key is to nab “elected representatives” from local, state and federal positions, and hang them. You don’t have to hang very many — they’re smarter than they look; they’re merely corrupt slimebags. Kill a few, and the rest scatter, awaiting future opportunity.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  10. Ma Laoshi says:

    Mr. Buchanan somehow manages to make it through the entire article without reminding us that, in fact, the GOP did impeach a president over a blowjob–what goes around, comes around. And while I doubt that Pat is among his fans, Bill Clinton at the time was a good deal more popular than Trump is now.

    Which brings us to something basic: Democrats and liberals in general have jumped the shark for everyone to see, they’re stark raving mad. Granted, the GOP is not exactly Trump’s party, but in an environment where Republicans face no substantial opposition, Trump could potentially do something for his voters and there would be no possibility of a blue wave. Instead, he’s embarked on a massively ambitious nation-building project in northeast Syria and is otherwise scouring the globe for new wars to start, while mostly catering to his rich friends at home. And Israel, Israel, Israel all the time. What has he done that’s actually useful? Ditching TTIP? OK let’s grant him that one. Meeting Kim? Mayyybe, but at the same time he chose to appoint Bolton and Pompeo who are predictably sabotaging the Singapore understanding. Meanwhile, American finances are going off the cliff at an ever-accelerating pace.

    All of which is the perfect mirror image of an equally true statement: if Obama hadn’t been such a lousy president (which his supporters are in denial about), a known charlatan like Trump would’ve never had a shot at the office. For an outsider, the sentimental attachment of this supposedly forward-looking country to its two officially allowed parties which haven’t served their stated purpose for decades already is a curious thing to behold.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Anonymous
  11. Although I lean conservative, I despair for my country.

    If Trump’s election “unauthorized by the real powers that be” proves to be the match that sets alight the country then we’re all in for a form of Hell that few of us have seen.

    I sense that it’s coming. So, I despair.

  12. @Anonymous

    Yes, but evangelical types are hopeless on their own and they will be sent down the river.

    I use to think (relative to the rest) that Pence was one of the better ones. Hell, I still do (relative).

    But the man is first and foremost a godbotherer. Which is great. That is who he is. An evangelical type. Religious values are his #1 paramount issue. I could vote for that.

    But if he cucks on that and folds under financial pressure from big corporate types, even when his base in IN supported him, then you have to conclude there is nothing he will not cuck on, nothing he won’t fold with when the going gets tough.

    And that’s exactly what he did.

  13. Wally says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    And Bill Clinton served his full term, as would Trump.

    Please try to understand what ‘impeachment’ actually means,

  14. Corvinus says:
    @Stick

    “Well, this would constitute a real civil war.”

    Note that someone whose supposed level of intimacy with violence is someone who would not know the first thing to do if war actually broke out. Exactly why you, the armchair warrior, who waits with bated breath to jackboot your “enemies”, will be staying at home rather than being on the front lines, just like yourself, dear.

    Now, onto Patrick’s post.

    “Michael Cohen is no Roy Cohn.”

    Patrick is partially right. They are both Jewish, and they both engaged in illegal activity, but one was a closet homosexual.

    “But paying girlfriends to keep past indiscretions private is neither a crime nor a campaign violation…”

    Obviously if that was the case, Cohen would not have pled guilty. And clearly Patrick has not been keeping up with the Mueller investigation on this particular development.

    “Cohen claims he and Trump thus conspired to violate federal law.”

    No, Cohen is offering to corroborate the evidence collected by prosecutors as to what constitutes illegal activities.

    “No, given his belief that he is under attack by people who hate him and believe he is an illegitimate president, and seek to bring him down, he will use all the powers of the presidency in his fight for survival.”

    Well, we know for a fact that if Shitlery or Obama was in the SAME SITUATION, Patrick would NOT be advocating this course of action. Rather, he would call for either of them to step aside.

    “Twenty-six months after the Watergate break-in, President Nixon had resigned. Twenty-six months after the hacking of the DNC and John Podesta emails, Mueller has yet to deliver hard evidence the Trump campaign colluded with Putin’s Russia, though this was his mandate.”

    The Mueller investigation is a sore spot for Buchanan, who had to endure an eerily similar experience with Nixon. So it is other than surprising that he Buchanan is defending Trump. Patrick ought to know better here, as Mueller is carefully gathering evidence from one of the most complex cases in our nation’s political history. Justice in this instance has no time table. Mueller is under no obligation to show his cards, that is not how prosecutions work.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @MarkinLA
  15. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “IMO, just like always throughout history, the key is to nab “elected representatives” from local, state and federal positions, and hang them. You don’t have to hang very many — they’re smarter than they look; they’re merely corrupt slimebags. Kill a few, and the rest scatter, awaiting future opportunity.”

    Rather than give advice, why don’t you act upon it? Wait, that’s right, you’re just blowing off steam and lack the intestinal fortitude to carry out any sort of plan in the first place.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @El Dato
  16. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Rather than give advice, why don’t you act upon it?

    ROFL. And your plan is what, exactly? Pissing and moaning? Whining? Fretting? Fussing with your bow-tie and suspenders?

    IOW, fuck off, asshole. If I want to bitch about the goddamn corrupt government, I will. Pick your own flavor of bitching, and have at it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Corvinus
  17. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    My feeling is that’ll never happen, but I hope to God you’re right. About the 20m I mean.

    Buchanan: But if Cohen’s guilty plea and Tuesday’s conviction of campaign manager Paul Manafort do not imperil Trump today, what they portend is ominous.

    The rip tide that’s on its way is going to be hideously fierce. Already they’re out for blood. Diversity of Thought must never, ever be countenanced.

  18. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @WorkingClass

    How will the war on whiteness be resolved?

    With blood, of course. The blood of white people.

    That’s what this is really all about. TPTB can’t tolerate a president who doesn’t at least feign obeisance to the Gods of Diversity and Immigration. Essentially, the Wrecking of a Nation.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  19. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ma Laoshi

    in fact, the GOP did impeach a president over a blowjob

    Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice.

    Look up the meaning of the word ‘fact’ at your convenience.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  20. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Thank you. Corvy is a notorious blowhard, which is some kind of irony.

  21. Ma Laoshi says:
    @Anonymous

    Yup: WJC lied under oath when interrogated about blowjobs, i.e., in response to questions which his foes had no business asking. To me, like to many Americans at the time, this still counts as “impeached over a blowjob”. But by all means keep up the self-righteous attitude, it reminds voters why they dislike the GOP as much as the alternative.

    And if I may respond to Wally at the same time: I think I know what “is” is—ehmmm I think I know what “impeached” means. Slick Willy was a good neoliberal privatiser and NATO expander, while, saxophone in hand, presenting the US with a wholesome liberal image overseas. Of course the system was fine with him; if his rivals thought they’d hit him in the wallet by taking away his law licence, in retrospect they underestimated the Clintons.

    In contrast, the Donald may think he’s a good plutocrat and Israel-coddler now his campaign populism has been abandoned, but he’s just too coarse for an establishment that takes its propaganda very seriously. And above all else, it was Hillary’s turn. There are powerful forces that want him out for real; popcorn time.

  22. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “ROFL. And your plan is what, exactly?”

    It’s not about me, it’s about you.

    “Pissing and moaning? Whining? Fretting? Fussing with your bow-tie and suspenders?”

    That’s exactly what you are doing here!

    “IOW, fuck off, asshole. If I want to bitch about the goddamn corrupt government, I will. Pick your own flavor of bitching, and have at it.”

    Except you are advocating violent reprisal. So, are you actually planning on executing it, or just pretend you are a tough guy?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  23. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “With blood, of course. The blood of white people.”

    In what regard? “Good whites” murdering “bad whites”? Global elites mowing down en masse Southrons? You are being vague here.

  24. Brabantian says: • Website

    The two previous big USA presidential ‘impeachments’ were both CIA Deep State stitch-up jobs, trying to use a softer approach than the 1963 assassination of JFK, or the 1981 shooting of Ronald Reagan by a man whose father was working for George Bush’s brother.

    In the Watergate ‘Silent Coup’ (see Colodny / Gettlin book), Bob Woodward was a US Navy intelligence agent under Admiral Maurer, and when Maurer became head of the US Joint Chiefs, Woodward was planted at the CIA’s Washington Post to be a fake ‘brave reporter’ claiming to get ‘leaks’ from the fictional ‘Deep Throat’, to take down a Nixon who had grown sick of war and was putting in some progressive social policies.

    The fake ‘impeachment’ against Bill Clinton in the 1990s, used the absurd ‘scandal’ with Jewish agent Monica Lewinsky, in order to force Bill to be a war criminal, bomb Serbia and kill thousands of civilians, which Clinton did shortly after ‘acquittal’.

    On the utterly corrupt history of Robert Mueller, see:

    https://www.newnationalist.net/2018/08/robert-mueller-crime-syndicate-operative-extraordinaire/

    As UK barrister Michael Shrimpton notes:

    Mueller has resorted to the classic sleazy prosecutor’s gambit of resorting to auxiliary allegations like perjury. All you need is to bully someone into contradicting the President and you have a perjury charge if you can trap the President into making statements on oath.

    And more re the Robert Mueller – Hillary Clinton etc team jabbing at Trump, from the web:

    From 2001 to 2005 the US gov had an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Governments from around the world had donated to the ‘Charity’, yet many of those donations were illegally undeclared.

    The investigation mysteriously ended after US Justice Dept staffer James Comey took it over in 2005. He was assisted by Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein, and FBI Director Robert Mueller.

    James Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper that handles the Clinton Foundation.

    When Hillary Clinton was Obama’s US Secretary of State, she supported a decision to sell 20% of US Uranium to Russia. Bill Clinton went to Moscow, was paid US $500,000 for a one-hour speech, and met with Vladimir Putin at his home. Entities connected to the Uranium One deal then donated US $145 million to the Clinton Foundation

    FBI Director Robert Mueller oversaw the Russian ‘deal’ … Rod Rosenstein was placed under gag order not to speak of it.

    Also while Hillary was Secretary of State, her friend James Comey moved from the US Justice Dept to Lockheed Martin, earning millions himself, with 17 no-bid contracts for Lockheed Martin with Hillary’s State Dept.

    When the Benghazi investigations uncovered the Hillary e-mail offences and placement of Top Secret information on her private servers, the investigation was in the hands of … James Comey, who had returned to gov service as FBI Director, where he ‘could not find’ any crimes regarding Hillary.

    Lisa Barsoomian is a lawyer who, over time in many cases, was either herself or her legal partner acting in representation of James Comey, Robert Mueller, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, the FBI and the CIA … Lisa Barsoomian is the wife of US Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Robert Mueller to his current job.

  25. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus

    Obviously if that was the case, Cohen would not have pled guilty.

    Someone doesn’t know about the US “legal” system.

    Patrick ought to know better here, as Mueller is carefully gathering evidence from one of the most complex cases in our nation’s political history.

    When something is being called “complex” repeatedly, and the only thing you see is high-cost bureaucrats shuffling around and orbiting themselves you know that fakery and flimflammery is what’s actually being sold.

  26. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus

    Are you some kind of FBI narc? You sure sound like it.

    Next you will write “I know someone who has a stash of guns…”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  27. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus

    Obviously if that was the case, Cohen would not have pled guilty.

    Michael Flynn is broke and had to sell his house over a bullshit charge of lying to the FBI. We now know even the FBI agent in charge of the interview did not think he was lying. As long as he does not settle, the legal fees mount up.

    This is the system and it isn’t about justice.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  28. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Except you are advocating violent reprisal. So, are you actually planning on executing it, or just pretend you are a tough guy?

    Not at all. I’m a nice guy who believes the US government to be wholly and grotesquely corrupt. If world history is any indicator, violent reprisal is the end result.

    BTW, check your diaper.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  29. Cohen was/is probably a deep plant..a spy who is now revealed…?

    Trump made a mistake. he should have said nothing relevant to affairs all the way through. and at this point he would have been able to come our in celebration of his love for women, how he was happy in those relationships, that they made his home life better.

    in the process he treated those women well so there are no complaints on that score

    even though however Trump should still come out in full celebration of those women, the affairs what however they went..celebrate his love for women, celebrate those women and let the world be dammed. I think the american public will love him for that..especially american women.

    what is he waiting for? get out there man and sing about love, and sex, and the glorious women he touched…..

  30. Corvinus says:
    @El Dato

    “Are you some kind of FBI narc? You sure sound like it.”

    No, I just observably understand the law much better than yourself.

  31. Corvinus says:
    @Anonymous

    “If world history is any indicator, violent reprisal is the end result.”

    So are you front and center or at the back of line when it comes to this “violent reprisal”?

  32. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA

    “Michael Flynn is broke and had to sell his house over a bullshit charge of lying to the FBI.”

    It’s much more than just “lying”. Are you really that ignorant?

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  33. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus

    Well following your ridiculous belief in every unsubstantiated charge no matter how stupid coming from the Mueller investigation maybe you can tell us just what Flynn did to deserve being bankrupted.

    I need a good laugh.

  34. Corvinus says:

    “maybe you can tell us just what Flynn did to deserve being bankrupted.”

    Flynn bankrupted HIMSELF. I thought conservatives are proponents of taking responsibility for one’s malfeasance.

    “Strictly speaking, a family member doesn’t necessarily implicate the person who has pleaded guilty,” said Barak Cohen, the litigation lead for Perkins Coie. “But prosecutors, for better or worse, are human beings. If they think someone is saying something that undercuts the guilty plea, that could have a negative consequence for the defendant.”

    Flynn was one of the FIRST Trump associates to plead guilty in Mueller’s probe of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, and he began cooperating with the ongoing investigation. He was initially fired from his top White House post in February 2017, after misleading Vice President Pence about his contacts with a Russian official.

    Hat Tip –> Washington Post

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  35. MarkinLA says:
    @Corvinus

    Just as I thought, you just spew more unintelligible drivel and show you don’t know anything of substance about what happened.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  36. Corvinus says:
    @MarkinLA

    As I had suspected, you totally are clueless as far as to the ongoing investigation into Trump’s alleged illegal activities, along with his members of his team. It’s so much easier for you to be in complete denial.

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