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Ten weeks of protests, some huge, a few violent, culminated Monday with a shutdown of the Hong Kong airport.

Ominously, Beijing described the violent weekend demonstrations as “deranged” acts that are “the first signs of terrorism,” and vowed a merciless crackdown on the perpetrators.

China is being pushed toward a decision it does not want to make: to use military force, as in Tiananmen Square 30 years ago, to crush the uprising. For that would reveal the character of President Xi Jinping’s Communist dictatorship, as well as Beijing’s long-term plans for this semi-autonomous city of almost 7.5 million.

Yet this is not the only internal or border concern of Xi’s regime.

Millions of Muslim Uighurs in China’s west are in concentration camps undergoing “re-education” to change their way of thinking on loyalty, secession and the creation of a new East Turkestan.

In June, a Chinese vessel rammed and sank a Philippine fishing boat, leaving its 22 crewmen to drown. The fishermen were rescued by a Vietnamese boat.

President Rodrigo Duterte’s reluctance to resist China’s fortification in the South China Sea of the rocks and reefs Manila claims are within its own territorial waters has turned Philippine nationalism anti-China.

China’s claim to Taiwan is being defied by Taipei, which just bought $2.2 billion in U.S. military equipment including Abrams tanks and Stinger missiles.

Any Taiwanese declaration of independence, China has warned, means war.

While Taiwan’s request to buy U.S. F-16s has not yet been approved, in a rare visit, Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen stopped over in the U.S. recently, before traveling on to Caribbean countries that retain diplomatic relations with Taipei. Beijing has expressed its outrage at the U.S. arms sales and Tsai’s unofficial visit.

The vaunted Chinese economy is growing, at best, at half the double-digit rate of a decade ago, not enough to create the jobs needed for hundreds of millions in the countryside seeking work.

And talks have been suspended in the U.S.-China trade dispute, at the heart of which, says White House aide Peter Navarro, are Beijing’s “seven deadly sins” in dealing with the United States:

China steals our intellectual property via cybertheft, forces U.S. companies in China to transfer technology, hacks our computers, dumps into our markets to put U.S. companies out of business, subsidizes state-owned enterprises to compete with U.S. firms, manipulates its currency, and, despite our protests, ships to the USA the fentanyl drug that has become a major killer of Americans.

Such practices have enabled China to run up annual trade surpluses of $300 billion to $400 billion at our expense, and, says Navarro, have caused the loss of 70,000 factories and 5 million manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

Moreover, China has used the accumulated wealth of its huge trade surpluses to finance its drive for hegemony in Asia and beyond.

ORDER IT NOW

With President Donald Trump threatening 10% tariffs on $300 billion more in Chinese exports to the U.S., Xi must decide if he is willing to end his trade-war tactics against the U.S., which have gone on during the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. If he refuses, will he accept the de-coupling of our two economies?

Only Trump has taken on the Middle Kingdom.

If the American people and Congress are willing to play hardball and accept sacrifices, we can win this face-off. The U.S. buys five times as much from China as we sell to China. The big loser in this confrontation, if we stay the course, will not be the USA.

For three years, the U.S. establishment has not ceased to howl about Russia’s theft of emails of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign.

Yet the greatest cybercrime of the century was Beijing’s theft in 2014 of the personnel files of 22 million applicants and employees of the U.S. government, many of them holding top-secret clearances.

Compromised by this theft, said then FBI Director James Comey, was a “treasure trove of information about everybody who has worked for, tried to work for, or works for the United States government.”

“A very big deal from a national security … and counterintelligence perspective,” said Comey. And Xi’s China, not Putin’s Russia, committed the crime. Yet America’s elites appear to have forgotten this far graver act of cyberaggresion.

Undeniably, Russia is a rival. But Putin’s economy is the size of Italy’s while China’s economy challenges our own. And China’s population is 10 times that of Russia, and four times that of the USA.

Manifestly, China is the greater menace.

Are Americans willing to make the necessary sacrifices to force China to abide by the rules of reciprocal trade?

Or will Trump be forced by political realities to accept the long-term and ruinous relationship we have followed since granting China permanent MFN status in 2001?

This issue is likely to decide the destiny of our relations and the future of Asia, if not the world.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Franz says:

    Are Americans willing to make the necessary sacrifices to force China to abide by the rules of reciprocal trade?

    Pat, Pat, Pat!

    Where you been since The Great Betrayal?

    You remember, the book that launched a hundred study groups, tons of donations that helped you win New Hampshire, all that “Dracula” press coverage?

    We were the guys in industry who told you China was stealing patents, processes and placing industrial spies all over the USA during the 90s and I know you pretended to hear at least once or twice.

    But if you did listen, Pat, nobody else did. The plutocrat-zombies in the Swamp let China go wherever they wanted to go and take whatever they wanted to take and damn the details.

    You predicted this world. And when it was time to try to prevent it, you dropped out and said, aw, what the hell, vote for Bush and maybe it’ll all work out anyway.

    It didn’t.

    • Agree: Twodees Partain
    • Replies: @romar
    , @Curmudgeon
  2. neither China nor Russia is an existential threat to White ‘Murkans, U silly old cuck.

    the existential threat to Whites everywhere is Zionist Occupation Gubmint via a shabbatz goy political class.

    • LOL: Amerimutt Golems
    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @Realist
    , @Mita Bek
  3. Greater threat to whom? The greatest threat to the World is the sicko globo-homo US controlled by crazy Zionist gangsters. The fact that white goy elites in the US failed to stop the ascendancy of the Cabal had led to the greatest threat to all mankind. Just ask the Palestinians and countless Arabs/Muslims.

    Russia minds its own business and has limited ambitions. Same with China that only wants dominance in the Pacific. In contrast, the crazy US wants to dominate all the world.

    At any rate, it doesn’t matter what Buchanan thinks because he and those like him have no power. The Power decides the who/whom, and Jews fear Russia more because it is a white nation that has gone some ways to resist total Jewish takeover. As Russians are white, they are more likely to inspire white peoples in other parts of the world. Because Jews fear White Liberation from Jewish Imperialism more than anything, they see Russia as a bigger threat. And since Jews get to decide what is ‘good’ or ‘bad’ for America, if they say Russia is worse, it is worse. Simple as that.

    • Agree: GeeBee
  4. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    j“For three years, the U.S. establishment has not ceased to howl about Russia’s theft of emails of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign.”

    Yet another craven endorsement of the Establishment line that Russia stole the scandalous emails. But, we’re told, China is an even bigger “menace” – Uncle Sam should be warring with Eastasia!

    This is how Mr. Buchanan serves the Empire: telling his (dwindling) gullible readers that “we” have to endorse Washington’s treatment of any nation that doesn’t succumb to Exceptional control.

    Why has this man become such a shameless Team Red hack? Stagehand Right in the big puppet show must pay pretty well.

    • Replies: @Mevashir
  5. Jason Liu says:

    Overblown. Unless you equate America with “the liberal world order”, as older Republicans often do, China hardly threatens the country of America itself. You could stop all trade with China right now and still be fine.

    If you do mean the liberal world order, then that’s just dumb. The liberal world order upholds all the things conservatives fight against, it should be undermined not just by China, but by people all over the world.

    Regarding Taiwan, the CCP is obliged to put out a vaguely threatening statement every few years. Nothing’s gonna happen. Invading the island would be too costly in terms of lives, materials, and global backlash. What they really want is a government in Taiwan that’s politically aligned with the PRC or at least not liberal whackjobs like Tsai Ing-wen.

    Regarding regional hegemony, it probably won’t happen because Beijing doesn’t know how to create a modern hegemony even if it wanted to. It tends to alienate other Asian countries by acting too materialistic, no real cultural or social connections, not even an attempt. If this changes in the future and we learn to make friends, then the hegemony would be fairly benign as Asian societies don’t believe in universalist moral crusades across the world.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  6. Yes, I do think China is a greater threat to Jews than Russia. Putin is more submissive to their demands overall than the Chinese. That’s why the Jews have started these Hong Kong and Uyghur operations.

    China is one of the only countries today outside of their direct control. This makes the Jews frenetically paranoid. Every country that isn’t Israel must be controlled, subverted, and destroyed. So expect operations like these to continue for many years to come.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
    , @Twodees Partain
  7. If China is a threat….The Han threat…it is because of the passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act which has allowed the Han People to come to OUR AMERICA LEGALLY and LEGALLY vote The Historic Native Born White American Working Class Majority into:A VIOLENTLY PERSECUTED WHITE RACIAL MINORITY WITHIN THE BORDERS OF POST-WHITE AMERICA….

    SEND THE HAN BACK TO CHINA

    BRING BACK THE 1882 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUSION ACT

    WHICH KEPT AMERICA MAJORITY WHITE

    AND THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!

    Not only that, but the GD HAN will eat into the OBLIVION OF EXTINCTION the remaining endemic and endangered species of California….from Ursus Horriblis to the Leaping Frog of Calavaras County……THE RED LEGGED FROG…The Han Gooks will eat Ecological-Cultural Americana into the OBLIVION OF MASS EXTINCTION….

  8. Compromised by this theft, said then FBI Director James Comey, was a “treasure trove of information about everybody who has worked for, tried to work for, or works for the United States government.”

    When the Chinese read that list of people, I only hope that they trembled as I do.

  9. DB Cooper says:
    @Jason Liu

    Don’t worry about regional hegemony. Once the CCP came into power in 1949 it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. This is the reason today’s China is two size smaller than it was before 1949 and is the reason outer Mongolia is a country and South Tibet is under the occupation of the shithole India (invaded and annexed by the shithole in 1951). South Tibet is what the shithole India referred to as Arunachal Pradesh since 1987.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
  10. Well Paddy, I still see the biggest threat to me and mine lies in the filth in Washington and their (((owners))) who are always selling some enemy.
    You spring to mind.

  11. Anon2020 says:

    If Trump is serious about winning this trade war instead of just running a gong show for our entertainment, he’d immediately suspend issuance of all visas to Chinese nationals – F1, J1, L1, B1, EB5, H1b, H2b, OPT, even tourist visas, and bar all Chinese nationals from buying US real estate or companies, getting a green card or US citizenship. As soon as the corrupt Chinese government officials and businessmen find out they can’t send their kids to our colleges, park their dirty money in our real estate or immigrate here, they’d capitulate in a hurry.

    Everything else is just for entertainment. This is the only real deal.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Pater
    , @NATO Blues
  12. Jason Liu says:
    @DB Cooper

    Part of me wants something like a hegemony, tbh. Just not forced or based on trade/investment alone.

    A friendly, voluntary alliance of like-minded neighbors to balance out the liberal world order. This would prevent China from being contained, as well as create a large protective buffer zone, not to mention potential allies in case of economic/military conflict. But there’s so much distrust and animosity between Asian nations, it’s easier said than done.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  13. “China is being pushed toward a decision it does not want to make: to use military force, as in Tiananmen Square 30 years ago, to crush the uprising.”

    China didn’t use military force in Tiananmen Square 30 years ago (the kids left peacefully, under the watchful eye of Nobelist Liu Xiaobo*) and, if they didn’t use force then, they’re not going to use force now.

    * http://www.unz.com/article/tiananmen-square-1989-revisited/

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  14. Yee says:

    This is disgusting…
    If we are such a menace, just sever all relations with China. Why do you ALWAYS create an enemy for your people to fight?

    As an insider of politics circle, it’s impossible the author doesn’t know the chaos in HongKong is orchestrated by American consulate! Even HK journalists managed to snap photos of American consulate personnel Julie Eadeh’s team meeting with the opposition leaders and mob leaders. Julie Eadeh is a color revolution expert…

    Is this article a preparation for the media attack for your anticipating “crush the uprising”?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  15. Rags says:

    Russia has good weapons. Economy the size of Italy doesn’t matter.

    • Replies: @NATO Blues
  16. peterAUS says:
    @Godfree Roberts

    You, sir, are some piece of work for sure.

  17. DB Cooper says:
    @Jason Liu

    Only the US treats the world like high school dividing countries into friends and enemies. China should deal with each country based on its own merits. China does not need friends or allies, nor foes.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
  18. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon2020

    Removing a leverage vector over an opponent makes your position weaker, not stronger. Barring them entry means forcing their elites to band together, rather than divide and conquer which is what you want.

    Trump voters really are unsophisticated creatures.

    • Replies: @Anon2020
  19. Jason Liu says:
    @DB Cooper

    That approach will allow the US to rally countries and gang up on us, probably using moral reasoning (“It’s the free world vs Nazi China!”). Actually, it’s already happening.

    China might not be interested in blocs or coalitions, but it doesn’t have a choice. We need all-weather allies. We must play the game.

    • Replies: @Biff
    , @DB Cooper
  20. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:

    Millions of Muslim Uighurs in China’s west are in concentration camps undergoing “re-education” to change their way of thinking on loyalty, secession and the creation of a new East Turkestan.

    We muslims are supposed to believe that this racist mfer gives a crap about the Uighurs? Screw you Fuckanan, you hypocritical pagan loser.

  21. Biff says:
    @Jason Liu

    That approach will allow the US to rally countries and gang up on us, probably using moral reasoning (“It’s the free world vs Nazi China!”). Actually, it’s already happening.

    China could open up all its markets, and hold democratic elections, and they would still be called communists in the western media. We know the drill.

  22. romar says:
    @Franz

    Exactly.
    What China wanted it has already got. The only part of the world on the head of which the US can still sit is NATOland – the only ones willing to join the wars America will have to keep fighting in this vain attempt to hang on to its hegemony.
    The sun is setting on America as it rises in the East.
    The only country that offers a dignified exit to the US is Russia, which is aware that any frontal humiliation of the US will trigger some mad reaction, dangerous to the world.
    Yesterday, China was also unwilling to humiliate the US, wanting only to get rich quickly and surround the world with belts and roads and ports and emporiums. But the US has provoked the dragon, and the dragon will spit fire…
    The only reasonable recommendation that Mr Buchanan does not even seem to think of is for the US to change its “policy” from aggression to cooperation. Easier with Russia, now harder with China, but still possible, with the help of Russia. (The NATO vassals are just as stupidly led as their suzerain, and none of them will offer any sound advice).
    But no, the powers that be in the US will continue to pretend Russia is too broke to matter, and Putin too “thuggish” to listen to.
    Yet Putin is the only statesman with enough vision to see the danger to world peace posed by a humiliated US, and thus to want to help the US transition smoothly from world hegemon to just a powerful country among other powerful countries.
    For that’s the only status the US can hope to achieve now. World hegemony is no longer possible, since, as everyone can see, the sun rises the East…

  23. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Mr. Paleoconservative seems to be on the same trajectory around here as Freedom Watcher. When he, too, drops into ARCHIVED BLOGS AND COLUMNS, we’ll know that he reads the comments.

  24. anonymous[405] • Disclaimer says:

    There you go again, you’ve discovered a war you like once more.

  25. Realist says:

    Ominously, Beijing described the violent weekend demonstrations as “deranged” acts that are “the first signs of terrorism,” and vowed a merciless crackdown on the perpetrators.

    Beijing is correct, violent demonstrations are terrorism. This country would do well to take the same attitude. Peaceful protests OK…violence ended immediately.

    • Replies: @Anon2020
  26. TTSSYF says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    Why do you and others think it is so clever and witty to refer to heritage white American citizens as “‘Murkans” like so many contemptuous, arrogant Lefties do? I don’t know anyone who says “Murkans” — not even the most back-woods Southerners. Quit insulting those who, while possibly ill-informed or misguided in some ways, are basically on your side.

    • Agree: istevefan
    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Haxo Angmark
  27. Realist says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    neither China nor Russia is an existential threat to White ‘Murkans, U silly old cuck.

    Agreed, but the US is a threat to Russia, China and many other nations.

    • Replies: @neutral
    , @PaulSans
  28. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    Isn’t that how Bush II pronounced “Americans” during the Cheney administration’s GWOTerra?

  29. The solution to the China problem lies squarely in the USA.

    Reduce the cost of living in the USA by dismantling the overbearing and useless Federal Gov’t. All the money it sucks up could be left in the pockets of the citizenry. Federal taxes, compliance costs and numerous other costs disappear along with the bloated US military that hasn’t won a war since WW-II.

    Now that THE major cost of living has been nullified, labor rates could plummet to be even with China’s. Manufacturing could return to the 50 new countries each competing with each other for residents and businesses which further guarantees additional cost savings to the average current US resident.

    Problem solved.

  30. Anonymous[774] • Disclaimer says:

    Pat’s right.

    Here is my restatement of the basic argument: USA is world’;s biggest and richest market. It only makes sense, provided that we actually care about the best interests of citizens, that we make/manufacture the industrial needs of our own citizens. That’s the optimum way to run the money around the economic circle.

    And it’s lots better than welfare — which is potentially an unending economic black hole.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Showmethereal
  31. VFY says:

    Pat Buchanan can’t do shit about China.

    • Replies: @Pater
  32. TTSSYF says:

    Even if he did (which I dispute), so what? Wasn’t that like nearly 20 years ago? Get over it and stop insulting people based on what GWB might have said with his Texas twang and slight speech impediment.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  33. neutral says:
    @Realist

    Agreed, but the US is a threat to Russia, China and many other nations.

    The US is by far the biggest threat to white people globally, no other state is as anti white as the USA. The sooner this disgusting regime crumbles the better.

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Realist
  34. PaulSans says:

    Pat, you are in my top three conservative voices of all time,but please pay attention, get with it.
    Several journalists who were at tiananmen square now admit the truth,it never happened ( Google : WikiLeaks American embassy cables from tiananmen square during incident), it was an attempted overthrow by the c.i.a. , unfortunately for them the chinese are just too docile ( if you are an atheist who doesn’t believe in an after life, the rational position is cowardice) ntm Kissinger and Nixon and David Rockefeller building this juggernaut, once again absolutely love you Pat but how you can carry so much water for Nixon , I’ll never understand (doubling down in Vietnam , the made up 73 oil crisis see William Engdahl for details ,Kissinger sabotaging the 68 Paris peace talks so Nixon could be elected, so everyone who died between 68-73, died so Nixon could be elected, the p.o.w.s we left behind that Mr unz has so dutifully exposed, d.e.a., e.p.a., jfk( his involvement and lying about where he was)going off the gold standard, going to China,cucking to Israel ( the specific issue I can’t remember but somewhere on the Nixon tapes he said for political reasons he couldn’t go after Israel, was it stealing the fissile material maybe?) I’m sure I’m missing at least ten or so sins against conservatism committed by tricky dick, just like Trump trying to cozy up to the left who despises him, and ignoring bannon, Nixon largely ignored you to cozy up to left wingers who despise him( somewhat rightfully so I might add).
    I blame alot of it in his ” father hunger” , due to his father dying when he was very young, he had no real character, just looking to cozy up to avuncular old men, like Clinton and Obama also, not a principled bone in any of their three bodies.
    They should add a criteria to be president, no fatherless men or women should be able to be president ( yes occasionally you can learn to be resolute from a mother, grandfather or uncle but it’s no likelihood)

    Wasn’t Nixon the first to go neocon? leftists rowed over due to the nomination of McCarthy( a pacifist) and have largely hijacked conservative foreign policy ever since.
    Get down in the mud with leftists who believe the ” ends justify the means” and not only do you get fleas also, but what the hell are you trying to conserve?
    With conservatives like Nixon,who in the hell needs leftists?

    Save the hatred for the Chinese who are largely just playing the hand they are dealt, yes they are our adversaries, but it’s ok to have grudging respect for an adversary, but it’s not their fault our country is run by unpatriotic,spineless attorneys with no loyalty to God or country, worthy adversaries deserve a tip of the cap, traitors deserve a hangman’s noose, this goes back at least to Brzezinskis book ” between two ages” where in the 70’s he says explicitly that America needs to be brought low economically so that we will go into the globalist superstate more easily,this wasnt ignorance or incompetence by our leadership ladies and gents , it was pure maliciousness

    Does anyone here want a weaker dollar? I doubt it, but the second you let multi Nationals make money overseas they love a weak dollar, so that when they repatriate profits , they don’t lose their shirt. People want to whine about tariffs, but in China’s case let’s just call it a carbon tax (agw theory is complete bullshit, fullstop btw), but if we had tariffs instead of income taxes not in addition to as was originally intended,it makes it easier to trade internally and harder to trade externally thus creating a predisposition towards self reliance without the need to micromanage it. ( When the forefathers talked of regulating trade, they actually meant to make it more regular, damn that word has been perverted, it meant smoothing internal trade by making it more regular) Plus let me make the dollar stronger ( like the Swiss franc for example) , and I could charge you a tariff and you’d hardly notice/ still be better off)

    Fyi Marx was a free trader , and not because he thought it benefited regular people but because he thought it would bring the revolution sooner, when the right in America was the party of protectionism and non interventionism , I believe the left only won like three elections for president in 80 years.
    Now we have two pro free trade parties and two pro war parties.
    I apologize for my atrocious grammar.

    Pats book “the great betrayal” on the free trade issue is wonderful and it along with Ian Fletcher’s ” free trade doesn’t work, what should replace it and why” should both be required reading by conservatives.
    Thanks for reading this meandering mess of a post and have a great day fellow men of the right.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @Showmethereal
  35. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    But why does he wrap that message in Uncle Sam’s warmongering lies?

  36. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    Dispute, but can’t refute and won’t concede.

    Oh, and try the other REPLY button next time.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  37. PaulSans says:

    Oh I forgot, Nixon signed the equal rights amendment, and Ted van dyk, in his book “heroes, hacks and fools” makes the claim that everyone other than Nixon wanted affirmative action to be implemented around class/ income but Nixon was the lone person who insisted that it be implemented racially, how true it is I don’t know, but it’s food for thought.

    Maybe it was a promise he made Johnson being that Johnson knew that Nixon ( more likely the Rockefellers) had Kissinger sabotage the 68 peace talks so that Johnson wouldn’t run for reelection.

    Johnson was an evil man, but when the right does things like this, or bribing the Ayatollah to hold the hostages until after Reagan got elected in 1980 , it gives the left the moral license to pull all of their shenanigans in response. You reap what you sow gentleman.

  38. PaulSans says:
    @Realist

    Are you absolutely sure that China harbors us no ill will? Not that they don’t have cause. Ntm the 5 new weapons Putin unveiled on mar 1st 2018 that we pretty much admit we have no counters for.
    I think now that we are fat,old, stupid, horribly in debt and cowardly, the zog is cutting bait with this rotting old husk that they have largely parasited/ picked clean and are moving on to greener pastures.

    Just like how the French are largely now seen as country of ” cheese eating surrender monkeys” although the yellow vests protest makes me wonder if they just aren’t just more understanding of how all wars are bankers wars( war is a racket by smedley Butler) i wish our oligarchs in the u.s. were as scared of us now as french oligarchs are ,but if they are cowards, they weren’t always, their losses during ww1 were astronomical, think of how many french patriots died, and how many cowards fathered children with their wives and girlfriends.

    Now think of how many patriots our country( sorry to be so u.s. centric everybody) has lost fighting for Israel’s false flag wars.

    We could use them for the inevitable upcoming revolutionary war 2.0 ( against our elites) and probable upcoming civil war 2.0( against the left) , I wish the left would settle for a truce on the culture wars, and settle for states rights making these decisions, which would go a long way towards civilizing the debate, but I think they won’t settle for anything less than complete victory , which most of them see as inevitable. ( Better to rule in hell, than serve in heaven and all that)

    • Replies: @Realist
  39. Mr. Buchanan writes: “ONLY TRUMP has taken on the Middle Kingdom. If the American people and Congress are willing to play hardball and accept sacrifices, WE can win this face-off.”

    Tell that to the American farmers, Pat, who are hopelessly in debt, as they have lost their Chinese market due to Trump’s excessive tariffs. Per Michael Snyder (“End of the American Dream” blog), the average debt of the US farmer stands at $1,300,000. It is impossible for a large number of them to make a profit. And there is no end in sight, as China can buy its soybeans and other foodstuffs from other countries who do not have such a dictatorial president. Plus, they can grow most of the food they need themselves. I doubt if too many Chinese are starving without US manufactured food.

    Now, as recompence for eliminating their markets, Trump is providing farmers with $12 billion in WELFARE PAYMENTS, and will be forced to provide even more next year, especially as he needs the farmer’s vote. Be prepared to pay ever higher food prices at the store.

    Mr. Trump has lead this country to the edge of the abyss with his recklessless. This country is living on borrowed time, and the vaunted Trump Economy is built on quicksand. But Trump apologists like Mr. Buchanan fail to see it.

  40. This article is a checklist of all the issues driving the US and China towards war; war between these two economic titans will be world war. It’s true China presents a greater threat than Russia. But US policy on Iran is helping to forge a Sino-Russian, both countries having shared strategic interests in the region. Russia might have an economy the size of Italy, but it has a nuclear arsenal the size of America’s. History shows that great power rivalry always ends in war. Decoupling without Armageddon looks impossible. The need for prosperity can bring peace: the need for survival brings war. If existential threat – on either side – appears to be the evitable consequence then we are facing our own destruction.
    https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

  41. Mevashir says:
    @anonymous

    This is how Mr. Buchanan serves the Empire: telling his (dwindling) gullible readers that “we” have to endorse Washington’s treatment of any nation that doesn’t succumb to Exceptional control.

    Buchanan also omits from his diatribe that it was Jewish banksters on Wall(ed off from God) Street who pushed American companies into China in the first place, seeking cheap labor to boost profit margins and shareholder value.

    China now is simply trying to remove the shackles of being a tool of Wall St. They see the big picture not the quarterly reports of the banksters.

    And what about American currency manipulation via the FED? That exceeds everything China could ever do.

    Sure the Chinese play dirty. But at least Buchanan could mention something about people living in glass houses.

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  42. Anon2020 says:
    @Anon

    Leverage is right. Only you’ve got it backwards. Once the elites can’t leave or send their offspring to Harvard, they’ll pressure one another to capitulate in a hurry. It’s the best leverage and Trump hasn’t got the balls or brains to use it, as his senior advisor Stephen Miller once suggested. Instead he’s letting our farmers go bankrupt and commit suicide in droves.

    And why on earth would we want more of these corrupt commies in the US? We know where their allegiance lies. Wherever these people go, it’s always China #1!

  43. TTSSYF says:
    @anonymous

    So keep on referring to “Murkans” or cheering on those who do since amuses you so. I didn’t tell you not to. All I did was ask why so many commenters seem to think it is so clever and witty, particularly when it is such an obvious slam against traditionalist whites. We ought to be pulling together, rather than tearing each other down.

    • Replies: @peterAUS
    , @anonymous
  44. @neutral

    From what I’ve read, the USA is no different in that regard (being anti-white) than Canada, Germany, Sweden, the UK, and whatever other Western Euro country that fails to comprehend its coming demographic death.

    Where is goes further, I think, is in its slavish devotion to the racist Zionist state. As Zionist Dennis Prager wrote: The US is the ONLY country in history to call itself Judeo-Christian. And I believe it will use its nuclear arsenal, if need be, to prevent Israel from ever being attacked by another country, regardless of all other considerations.

  45. Anon2020 says:

    China steals our intellectual property via cybertheft, forces U.S. companies in China to transfer technology, hacks our computers, dumps into our markets to put U.S. companies out of business, subsidizes state-owned enterprises to compete with U.S. firms, manipulates its currency, and, despite our protests, ships to the USA the fentanyl drug that has become a major killer of Americans.

    Easy way to fix every single one of these complaints if we really wanted to:

    1. China steals our intellectual property — yes but not via cybertheft, they steal through our industries and universities. We need to bar US universities from letting foreign nationals work in our most advanced research labs, and stop issuing work visas to foreign nationals in critical sectors incl. high tech. Yes they also steal copyrighted videos, dvds, sell fake iPhones, fake Rolexes, Gucci handbags etc. Those need to be cracked down.

    2. Forces US companies to transfer technology — those US companies did it voluntarily. They didn’t have to manufacture in China, they chose to, then turned around and bitch and whine about it when they found out what quick learners the Chinese are. Cry me a river.

    3. Dumping and state subsidies for things like solar panel, steel, tires — this could be fixed via tariffs, as Trump is doing.

    4. Manipulates its currency — wake up Pat. EVERY country manipulates its currency! Chief among them the US, but even the EU is now doing it. This is just the pot calling the kettle black.

    5. Shipping Fentanyl to the US — I was under the impression that fentanyl came from Mexico, but even if it’s true that it was made in China, I find it hard to believe the Chinese government is involved in it. Rather, this is done by an illicit commercial enterprise in China. Perhaps the DEA could work with the Chinese to crack down and arrest the rogues who make these drugs?

    • Replies: @Mevashir
    , @El Dato
  46. El Dato says:

    That’s some stupid laundry list of grievances. USA victimhood FTW!

    The vaunted Chinese economy is growing, at best, at half the double-digit rate of a decade ago, not enough to create the jobs needed for hundreds of millions in the countryside seeking work.

    I always heard that China’s GDP growth is slowing BECAUSE there are no longer “hundreds of millions in the countryside seeking work”. Which is it?

    China is being pushed toward a decision it does not want to make: to use military force, as in Tiananmen Square 30 years ago, to crush the uprising. For that would reveal the character of President Xi Jinping’s Communist dictatorship, as well as Beijing’s long-term plans for this semi-autonomous city of almost 7.5 million.

    “Forced to reveal the character”. Makes no sense.

    The Internet is in uproar (probably 50% coming from the entrails of our regime-change masters), but Hong-Kong is still China. Deal with it. Wanna play world police some more and re-transform Hong-Kong into a protectorate of the Good and Great? These times are over. We don’t even have the gunboats anymore.

    Seriously there are better things to do than write such articles. One could watch Star Trek or something.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  47. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    Such practices have enabled China to run up annual trade surpluses of $300 billion to $400 billion at our expense, and, says Navarro, have caused the loss of 70,000 factories and 5 million manufacturing jobs in the U.S.

    STOP PRINTING MONEY THEN YOU … YOU DOUBLE PALEOCON.

  48. Mevashir says:
    @Anon2020

    1. China steals our intellectual property — yes but not via cybertheft, they steal through our industries and universities. We need to bar US universities from letting foreign nationals work in our most advanced research labs, and stop issuing work visas to foreign nationals in critical sectors incl. high tech. Yes they also steal copyrighted videos, dvds, sell fake iPhones, fake Rolexes, Gucci handbags etc. Those need to be cracked down.

    yes. but it won’t happen because US colleges and universities are starved for funding and the foreigners pay full ride.

    2. Forces US companies to transfer technology — those US companies did it voluntarily. They didn’t have to manufacture in China, they chose to, then turned around and bitch and whine about it when they found out what quick learners the Chinese are. Cry me a river.

    it might not be willingly but under compulsion from their Wall Street managers.

    • Replies: @H. D.
  49. unit472 says:

    Xi Whiz! When did you figure out “Russia” was no longer the USSR. The three componets of geo-strategic power are. Manpower, Industry and technology. There is a fourth, fanaticism, but without the prior three it is irrelevant.

    The USSR had manpower. It had industry ( when steel and oil production were key) and it had some stolen technology too. It even had fanaticism in the form of the “Internationale”. Still it could not match the USA and its NATO/Japanese auxillary.

    Now Russia is a series of explosive mishaps as Putin desperately tries to keep his dictatorship on the UN Security Council. Relying solely on the weapons from a Cold War playbook and knocking his bald head before Beijing he is geopolitical joke absent the pushing of the ‘Doomsday’ button.

  50. El Dato says:
    @Anon2020

    Yes they also steal copyrighted videos, dvds, sell fake iPhones, fake Rolexes, Gucci handbags etc. Those need to be cracked down.

    Satire? Who cares except glitterhounds?

  51. SafeNow says:

    I remember a few years ago the Cathay Pacific flight attendants won a proper pay raise by deploying a cunning, devastating, weapon. They threatened to stop smiling. The Chinese government wants the people to be smiley.

    • Replies: @Ber
  52. The U.S. buys five times as much from China as we sell to China. The big loser in this confrontation, if we stay the course, will not be the USA.

    What a quaint world-view. The problem is that the US supply chain has a number of critical dependencies on Chinese suppliers, and American consumers have grown rather dependent on the pricing-deflation that has been imported by off-shoring of a number of what used to be US production capabilities. The Chinese could easily wreak havoc on the US by supply-chain disruption.

    But trumping all this is the comparative societal structuring of the US and China: China is one generation from living in the dirt, and if they have to take a hit, they shrug and tighten their belts and turn this into a great patriotic war. In fact, they are doing just that. The hit to the US economy, however, hits a people three or four generations removed from hard times. If you think snowflakes are unbearable now, just wait til they have to go without iToys and avocado toast.

  53. Chinaman says:

    I usually respect what Pat have to say but this article have proven beyond a doubt he is senile and should just shut up.

    His boss, Nixon was the one who “open China” and as politicians or failed politicians like Pat usually do, they have a fundamental misunderstanding of economics and what the American and Chinese trade relationship is about.

    To put it in as simple terms as possible, The immense credit creation engendered by the Fed and the American financial system allow Americans to purchase tangible goods and services from the Chinese with intangible IOUs worth nothing. We all know none of that debt will ever be paid or it will be inflated away . So Americans is essentially getting for FREE all the commodities, cheap toys, iPhones, clothing that is created by the blood and sweat of the Chinese. Who is holding the short end of the stick here? I have no qualms with this since this is capitalism, which most Americans profess to believe in. No one asked those Americans companies to move to China.

    the only reason America can get away with this is due to its reserve currency status. It would be stupid for American not to exploit this advantage but this is what these dumbass is trying to stop.

    China is the biggest holder of US government debt, 25% of the budget goes to defense so the Chinese is actually partially paying for the US military! Do people understand what a farce this is? If you think about it, the Chinese is actually working as a tax collector for the US government ! Without that trade deficit, the US military would not being able to make war everywhere, at least not without massive inflation via debt monetarisaion. ( as with Vietnam)

    It have been said 60% of Americans are stupid, I didn’t know Pat was one of them. From the comments so far, it seems like the percentage is much higher. Remeber-the first rule is never to believe in your own BS. It is ok to flex your muscle but don’t try to get in fight You won’t benefit.

    • Agree: El Dato
  54. Amon says:

    Everything on that seven deadly sins list is a direct result of actions taken by Republican and Democratic governments over a 40 year period.

    You chose to export your work places to save money.
    You chose to allow Chinese workers into your factories.
    You chose to transfer your patents and schematics,
    You chose to dismantle middle america to make a quick cash grab.
    You chose to look the other way as millions of Chinese immigrants flooded into the US universities and work places.
    You chose to dismantle trade barriers to increase corporate profits
    You chose to hook your entire economy up onto Chinese bailout money.
    You allowed your entire medical industry to move to China so it could flood the US market with “cheaper” drugs to offset the national depression.

    Take some responsibility and stop blaming others for your own massive screw ups.

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  55. Chinaman says:

    I live in Hong Kong and it is disgusting to see American flags being flown by the protestors. Tell me the CIA or Pompeo is not behind this . How coincidental that this happens exactly when the trade war is being escalated and when American illegally try to extradite a Chinese national.

    The HK protestor is just acting out like most Americans and Pat here is wont to do. It is always someone else’s fault. The the lack of introspection and reflection, the hubris, the pontificating, the interminable list of grievances, complaints is just so…uniquely American.

    It is in its DNA. From the genocide of the natives, the slavery of the blacks, the endless war. Americans only know confrontation.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  56. peterAUS says:
    @TTSSYF

    ….why so many commenters seem to think it is so clever and witty, particularly when it is such an obvious slam against traditionalist whites.

    Because a lot of commentariat here are not traditional whites and, more importantly, hate their guts.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  57. GeeBee says:
    @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    Well said. Can it really be that dear old Pat fails to understand how things are regarding who controls ‘the swamp’?

  58. SafeNow says:

    One way to exploit China is to allow immigration. As I’ve said before, Chinese immigrants here in California tend to be quite decent, industrious, conscientious, and smart.

  59. peterAUS says:
    @PaulSans

    …..Several journalists who were at tiananmen square now admit the truth,it never happened …

    C……..r……….a……….z………..y.


    The best part of this site is “people watching”.
    Constantly showing how many….interesting….characters are actually around us in real life as we speak. Neighboorhood, work, club, society, beach, shopping mall.

  60. nsa says:

    The old cold war Nixon whore, Buchanan, knows exactly what the crux of the trade / tariff war with China is all about: the wily Chinese will not allow (((western financial services))) to penetrate their domestic economy i.e. the chinks won’t let the conniving jew into the middle kingdom to fleece and loot the place turning it back into the pauper kingdom. China represents 1.4 billion consumers ripe for all the modern paper hustles (insurance, mutual funds, bundled mortgages, crap religions, options contracts, payday loans, 8 year vehicle financing, etc). This is also why the clever Chinese won’t accept (((democracy))), which in the modern parlance means the jew gets to run the show. China, and the rest of Asia, have a bright future as long as they exclude the jew ……if they fail to resist, they will end as looted multi-racial cesspools like the USA and the UK with jew domination of finance, information, entertainment, and government. It’s that simple and the old coot, Buchanan, knows it but doesn’t have the testosterone left to say it. His fear of the jew far exceeds his love of the facts.

  61. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    You also said: “I don’t know anyone who says [‘]Murcans[‘]..”

    I tried to explain where that originated, not to defend it.

    But all you ever want to do is “dispute” anything that might disturb your faith in Exceptionalia.

    • Troll: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Anon2020
  62. Realist says:
    @neutral

    The sooner this disgusting regime crumbles the better.

    Yes, and replaced with White nationalism.

  63. TTSSYF says:
    @peterAUS

    Good to be reminded of that.

  64. Realist says:
    @PaulSans

    Are you absolutely sure that China harbors us no ill will?

    One can never be absolutely sure. But we have nuclear weapons so the deterrence is there. So far one nuclear weapon country has not attacked another.

  65. Realist says:
    @nsa

    the wily Chinese will not allow (((western financial services))) to penetrate their domestic economy i.e. the chinks won’t let the conniving jew into the middle kingdom to fleece and loot the place turning it back into the pauper kingdom.

    The Chinese are smart to not allow the Jewish ‘financial products’ to infiltrate their economy.
    Not sure of the point in using the pejorative ‘chinks’.

    This is also why the clever Chinese won’t accept (((democracy))), which in the modern parlance means the jew gets to run the show.

    Yes, democracy never works…it allows idiots to vote. Read: The End of Democracy by Buffin de Chosal.

    • Replies: @Malla
  66. PaulSans says:
    @nsa

    I hate to admit ,how much I am forced to agree with this statement.

  67. DB Cooper says:
    @Jason Liu

    Don’t be silly. There is no all-weather allies. Countries has no permanent friends, only permanent interest.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
  68. @TTSSYF

    before Drumpf, I would have agreed with you.

    not anymore. “heritage White Americans”

    are dumber than a box of rocks. To be fooled

    once by a transparent ZOG-stooge con-artist like Drumpf

    is bad enough. To continue to take him seriously after nearly 3 years

    of betrayals on every issue

    has zero survival value.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  69. Jason Liu says:
    @DB Cooper

    That attitude is the problem with Chinese diplomacy for the last thirty years. Even if there are no real friends, there are a least very close allies. Think America and the Anglophone countries. This super cynical worldview, even if accurate, should not be expressed openly. It will lead to China’s isolation.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  70. DB Cooper says:
    @Jason Liu

    “That attitude is the problem with Chinese diplomacy for the last thirty years.”

    Wrong. Chinese statecraft has always be like this for thousand of years. When is the last time China, in whatever dynastic incarnation, form allies with other countries?

    “Think America and the Anglophone countries.”

    This is your problem there. Always thinking America and the Anglophone countries as model to emulate. Foreign entanglement with other countries, forming alliance and making enemies is one of the biggest source of troubles that keep on backfiring on these countries.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
  71. Pater says:
    @VFY

    Too late for that, China is too big to stop. The Truman & Eisenhower administrations should have pushed for Tibetan & Uighur independence in the 50’s.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  72. Jason Liu says:
    @DB Cooper

    The methods used for thousands of years are wrong and inferior to modern methods. We need criticism of the old system, followed by change. In the past, there was not another superpower with global reach to contend with China. There is now, so there is no choice but to keep up with the game.

    I think you are conflating alliances with foreign entanglement. We can easily be friends with our neighbors without getting into any wars. This is not an American model, all countries seek to gain as many allies as possible.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  73. Yee says:

    Chinaman,

    “I live in Hong Kong and it is disgusting to see American flags being flown by the protestors. Tell me the CIA or Pompeo is not behind this . How coincidental that this happens exactly when the trade war is being escalated ”

    It’s pretty obvious that the US wants to provoke a crackdown from Beijing, so they can place all round sanctions in this time of trade war…

    However, since HongKong is a “quarantined” city of sorts, no matter how bad it gets, it does little harm to the mainland. So Beijing is in no rush to “crackdown”, they’d just wait for HK citizens to sort this out. Once the rioters lose support from the public, HK police can do their job.

    As for the American flags, they are for mainlanders to see, so Beijing would face some public pressure within the mainland to crackdown. This is also why the US don’t keep its role in this a secret.

    You are like the favorite pet being captured and tortured to get a respond from the owner. Things will probably get worse.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  74. Paul says:

    Any action against Chinese trade — even though the American Midwest is being deindustrialized — faces intense opposition from some U.S. elites, especially in the media. They want us to get hysterical over tariffs that reduce trade and budget deficits. Those who object to tariffs (some of which will be absorbed by China so as not to reduce sales), can buy American or from foreign countries other than China. Too many American elites have their snouts in the Chinese trough.

  75. Paul says:

    Karl Marx had a term for the kind of tyranny that has existed in parts of the developing world in our era: “oriental despotism.”

  76. DB Cooper says:
    @Jason Liu

    China does not want to be a superpower. What China need is to be a prosperous wealthy country and a strong army that is able to defend itself. Do you know people of which country has this superpower fetish? The shithole India.

    Yes making friends but no allies. Allies has obligations.

  77. TTSSYF says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    So I take it you knew he was a “transparent ZOG-stooge con-artist” in 2016 and didn’t vote for him? And that every single one of the heritage white Americans who did, regardless of how enthusiastically, are all “dumber than a box of rocks”?

  78. Millions of Muslim Uighurs in China’s west are in concentration camps undergoing “re-education” to change their way of thinking on loyalty, secession and the creation of a new East Turkestan.

    Pat,

    The situation is much graver than you state and the exact number is SIX million. The evil Chicoms are now gassing 6,000,000 innocent Uighurs and turning them into lampshades. It’s another Shoah!

    • LOL: Parfois1
  79. @Amon

    The China Price brought to you by wanton capitalism (foreign direct investment).

  80. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Chinaman

    Go to imgur and be amazed at the “HK is Tiananmen, won’t somebody DO something” posts on the first page. Suspiciously suspect that some psyops are ongoing.

    I next expect the UK to send a frigate to fire its 20mm cannon in front of the harbour so that locals are suitably impressed and buy more opium, I mean freedom.

  81. Parfois1 says:
    @nsa

    The old cold war Nixon whore, Buchanan, knows exactly what the crux of the trade / tariff war with China is all about: the wily Chinese will not allow (((western financial services))) to penetrate their domestic economy…

    You nailed it. The plutocrats thought that they would kill many birds with one stone: bring capitalism into China, create a huge consumer market, profit from trade flows and sell financial products to expand the credit bubble for a decades to come. Except, the wily Chinese played them for the fools they are, blinded by their greed.

    Perhaps the world should be grateful as they unwittingly helped bring forward the demise of the US imperial project.

  82. Malla says:

    The solution is very easy for America. Allow the Japanese and South Koreans to have nukes and get outta there. That is what President Trump was talking about before he got elected. That will save a ton load of money for the USA.
    Allow the Germans and Poles and maybe even the Fins to have nukes and get outta Europe.
    Save even more money. Put those troops at the US-Mexican border.

    The Han in general are not a militarily expansive people though there have been many civil wars and bandits. Most of the expansions of the Imperial Chinese state have been done under Northern warlike dynasties like the Mongols and Manchus.
    But of course, this PRC is not traditional Chinese state but Maoist Communist, so we cannot exactly say.

  83. Malla says:
    @nsa

    the wily Chinese will not allow (((western financial services))) to penetrate their domestic economy i.e. the chinks won’t let the conniving jew into the middle kingdom to fleece and loot the place turning it back into the pauper kingdom.

    The nice gentlemen like the Rothschilds and Rockefellars have always been close to the Chinese elites and still are.

    Chinese President Jiang Zemin all pally with David Rockefellar and Mr Kissinger looks on.

    Chinese Ambassador Liu Xiaoming Meets with British Financier Lord Jacob Rothschild.
    Smiles all around. $$$$$Looks like Nice deals made. $$$$

    Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan meets with our old pal Rothie. Seem very happy. This pic is from an official Chinese Government website BTW.

    There is no chance in hell that they would relinquish Global financial control to an entity they have no influence over.

  84. Mita Bek says:
    @Haxo Angmark

    exactly, Haxo….this old zio-shill buchanen is beyond pathetic.

  85. @peterAUS

    What do you see in that video but a BBC reporter calmly walking around. If random people are being shot in the area where she is – why does she not duck for cover? Where is her bulletproof vest and ballistics helmet? Why didnt the Chinese government seize all the BBC videos? Maybe they were naive enough to think the BBC would show the dead soliders and their firebombed vehicles — which is the area where they were shooting “protesters” and not unarmed students in the Square. Its the same nonsense with the Hong Kong coverage. The so called protesters throw firebombs – bricks – try to blind with laserz and caustic liquid. Then when the police move in with force “oh the police are brutalizing the people”. It is absolutely pathetic the bias that goes on. But when you have men like Mr Buchanan for which the ends justify the means… Well then. As Mr Pompeo said about the great American experiment. As a cadet you are taught to be homest – but when you get to levels of government you are taught to lie and to cheat and to steal. If Mr Buchanan was there im sure he applauded with the rest of crowd or laughed with Mr Pompeo. Does he not realize that video would go around the world? That is the “threat” – more than China

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  86. @Anonymous

    More delusion. China is a far bigger market than the US. Look up the top 10 biggest banks in the world. Pick just about any consumer good and see where the biggest market is. Stock dividends are not a consumer good and do not count as the real economy.

  87. Malla says:
    @nsa

    This is also why the clever Chinese won’t accept (((democracy))), which in the modern parlance means the jew gets to run the show.

    ((Communism)) has ALWAYS been more Jewish than ((Democracy)).

  88. @PaulSans

    Interesting thoughts but i want to touch on just one. The idea that China is all atheist and dont believe in an afterlife. Simply not true. The government is atheist but not the majority of the people. China has more Buddhists than any other nation. It also has the second most self identified Christians in the world after the US. But in reality – calling yourself a Christian in China actually means something – as opposed to a country that calls itself Christian. There are over 20 million Muslims in China. An unknown number of Taoists but at least in the many tens of millions. There are numerous folk religions practiced openly in every corner of the country. One of the biggest holidays in China is a pagan ritual called “tomb sweeping”. Cant be an atheist to participate in that. Im a born again believer in Christ so I dont agree with most of that stuff obviously… But the idea most Chinese are atheist is not true.

    • Replies: @Lin
    , @DB Cooper
  89. Chinaman says:
    @Yee

    Hong Kong is only 3% of the GDP of China. Apparently, America have 1400 companies in Hong Kong and city is swarming with these white vermins. JP Morgan Asian headquarters is just 15minutes from me. For all they care, Hong Kong can be sacrificed.

    This time is a bit different than 2014. the rioters are much more organized and they won’t give up. they will keep escalating the violence. They want to be martyrs. I was on one of the last flights to arrive in HK ariport before they canceled everything.

    I saw the madenss in the eyes of the protestor when they give me their pamphets. This is a revolution doom from the start and much blood will be spilled.

    I will stand with my city and fight, if necessary, to prevent its disintegration and the imperialists from taking over.

  90. Ber says:
    @SafeNow

    First of all the majority shares of Cathay Pacific belong to the Swire Group …i.e England.

    Second, when in the service industry, one is required to smile or else one gets fired.

  91. The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire has crawled into bed with the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

    Trump has cravenly capitulated to the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY on tariffs and trade policy and American sovereignty and good wages and working conditions for US workers.

    The USA must immediately implement a PROHIBITIVE TARIFF of 194 percent on all goods and services emanating from any territory or jurisdiction controlled by the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

    This tariff must apply to all other nations or free trade zones or any other damn bit of legal mumbo jumbo that the evil plutocrat globalizers can come up with.

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @Malla
  92. Yee says:

    Chinaman,

    “This is a revolution doom from the start and much blood will be spilled.”

    I don’t think so. I think the US will keep things escalate but without blood spilled.

    Because if the rioters start causing casualties, it’d be a lot more difficult for the US to call for sanctions on China even if Beijing decides to give them the long hope for crackdown… When “peaceful protest” gets people killed, any government has an obligation to end it.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  93. @Pater

    They did push Tibetan independence in the 50’s. The CIA armed and trained an uprising. Its declassified now. It failed and that’s when they extracted the Dalai Lama to India.

  94. AmRusDebate says: • Website

    I agree wholeheartedly with your article Pat, except one passage.

    The OPM hack.

    A Chinese national has been indited, but the indictment mentions two others individuals. Judging by the way their identity is covered up, they are not Chinese. pdf is here:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi-0ua744LkAhUvyoUKHXegD2gQFjABegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politico.com%2Ff%2F%3Fid%3D0000015e-161b-df04-a5df-963f36840001&usg=AOvVaw2XKZuBol8uc_G-I5IanoYL

    Some claim the indictment is being filed by companies having nothing to do with the OPM hack. That’s not how I am reading it. How do others see it?

  95. @peterAUS

    It is you peterAus who is a piece of work. Don’t you ever do any research? When did you decide you knew everything?
    Anyone who quotes the BBC as a source is an idiot per se.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
  96. Chinaman says:
    @Yee

    it is hard to predict what will happen now. If the reporter died last night after being tortured by the rioters last night, it could have triggered a curfew or a lockdown of the city. (which might have end the crisis…). I am sure the PLA won’t be deployed. But I am quite certain this won’t end without some blood spilled on either side.

    Any accident or misunderstanding can lead to bloodshed because both side can’t back down. it’s brinksmanship now.

    The US can’t do much more beside sanctions which will hurt it more than China. China still have some nuclear options-financially-. the markets have spoken and it does not want a escalation of the trade war. Trump is not stupid.

  97. The Chinese Communist Party is supporting and pushing the INVASION of the United States of America by Chinese foreigners.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is colluding and conspiring with the Chinese Communist Party to keep the mass immigration invasion floodgates open.

    Millions of Chinese invader interloper infiltrators have flooded into the USA.

    The Chinese Communist Party is colonizing the Anglo-Saxon nations — USA, England, Canada, Australia, New Zealand — with full support of the treasonous rats in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    Tweets from 2015:

    • Replies: @Malla
  98. pat is obviously senile…washington DC, manhattan, hollywood…those are the threats…russia and china are potential allies to help us defeat our REAL enemies…who are domestic enemies

  99. Malla says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire has crawled into bed with the CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY.

    They created Communist China. That is why the USA went to war with Japan in WW2. That is why the Rockefellars pushed Stalin to help create a 100% mainland Communist China. They were thinking long term. The rise of present day China was chalked out a long time ago.
    There is NO successful Communist revolution in the World which has not had clandestine American State department support or some Wallstreet banker support. Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba you name it. Communism is and never was the enemy of exploitative wage slave capitalism but the HIGER VERSION of speculative oligarchic exploitative wage slave Capitalism. Sounds counter intuitive but that is what it is.
    Come to think of it there has hardly been a successful anti-colonial movement without Wallstreet and/or Soviet support.
    The fall of the British and other Empires, the rise of USA as superpower, feminism, modern pop culture, fall of USSR, rise of China etc… these are all planned events. Planned and skillfully directed by Globalist trillionire Satanic elites. International Politics is a Stage, with actors.

  100. peterAUS says:
    @Showmethereal

    What do you see in that video but a BBC reporter calmly walking around. If random people are being shot in the area where she is – why does she not duck for cover? Where is her bulletproof vest and ballistics helmet? Why didnt the Chinese government seize all the BBC videos?

    Interesting.

    Would you mind helping me a bit here?
    I’d like to know, if possible, a bit about you. Sort of my pet online project.
    Your race, nationality, age, education, industry/career, family. Yes, I know it’s a lot but, well, if you don’t mind.
    Like: Asian, Chinese, early thirties, college/university, some Government job, married, kids. Something like that.
    Please.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  101. Malla says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I think the threat from Asian Indians is greater than the Chinese. The Indians are being brought in as a supervisor class under their Jewish masters since they would have no emotion connections with the Native or majority White or even black populations and thus eagerly follow orders of their overlords against the interests of the native/majority Whites. We Hinjews are second rate Jews anyways.
    Check out this book:
    Servitors of Empire: Studies in the Dark Side of Asian America by Darrell Y. Hamamoto

    The traitorous Zio Western government promoted infiltration of Hispanics from Central America into the USA, Zio Western government promoted infiltration of Muslims in Europe etc… this whole multi racial/ multicultural infiltration of outsiders and enemies into White countries, is being done for a reason. Not an innocent reason. The whole political correctness and ‘racism’ brouhaha is to keep the Whites on the defensive and to prevent a rightful resistance of their dispossession by their traitorous globalist governments.

  102. The treasonous rats in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire are colluding and conspiring with the sneaky crooks in the Chinese Communist Party to pauperize and immiserate the people of the United States and the people of China.

    The treasonous rat JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire and the sneaky crooks in the Chinese Communist Party are using monetary policy and trade policy and immigration policy and foreign policy to make big crooked profits out of screwing over everybody who ain’t in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire or the Chinese Communist Party.

    Tweets from 2015:

  103. Malla says:
    @nsa

    More on Global banker elites and Communist China soul mating
    Here is the original NYT aricle by David Rockefella
    https://www.nytimes.com/1973/08/10/archives/from-a-china-traveler.html

    Woaw!! What praise for a Communist country by an elite banker and capitalist industrialist. And Social Experiment???? What experiment? Whose Experiment??

    More on the Banker China soul mating
    The pairing of Kissinger’s mind and the unfettered power of the American Empire was cold and calculating, yes; but more than that it was wise and effective. Kissinger oversaw the creation of the two economic columns that upold the Pax Americana: the petrodollar and US-China trade. After his work was complete, David Rockefeller, scion of the family’s diversified financial empire, stepped in and negotiated the terms for the deployment of hundreds of billions of dollars of American capital over the coming decades.

    Kissinger was a Rockefeller man through and through. The Rockefeller dynasty desired a closer relationship between the United States and China. One that would remove ideological obstacles to their investments, which could then earn beautiful returns by accessing and developing China’s virgin markets and cheap labor. In the 1970s, China was ready for that alliance.

    This allowed Kissinger to get to work. But he couldn’t just call up Mao and ask if he wanted to be allies. China and the US had no diplomatic contacts whatsoever at that time, and just communicating with China was physically difficult given the country’s state of self-imposed isolation. Kissinger started passing notes like a crush-stricken schoolgirl, via every back channel he could think of-including the murderous and egomaniacal communist dictator of Romania, Nicolae Ceausescu, Mr. Yahya Khan, a noted whoremonger and President of Pakistan, the Polish Foreign Ministry and even some of Nixon’s personal friends. One can only imagine the consternation these messages created inside the Chinese leadership. Eventually Chinese Communist Party Premier Zhou Enlai responded to Kissinger’s note-passing via Yahya Khan, and invited him to China. Thus, in the summer of 1971, Kissinger arranged for a visit in complete secrecy by creating a cover story about a visit to the UK for meetings with the Prime Minister.

    Political negotiations between Kissinger, Zhou, Mao and Nixon were just half of the opening of China during the early 1970s. There was another set of negotiations, between representatives of the Chinese government and representatives of America’s leading banks and industrial corporations, that began soon after the Kissinger-Zhou talks. Indeed, barriers to trade between the US and China were coming down even before Kissinger visited China. The Chinese were already subtly reaching out to American diplomats in Hong Kong to discuss “terms of eventual trade with US firms” and facilitate business travel between the US and China in 1970, and Nixon ended legal restrictions on the use of US dollars and shipping companies by Chinese firms. Both sides clearly had joint investment on their minds.

    Kissinger’s diplomatic success kicked the economic developments into high gear. Remember that Kissinger was a former protege of the Rockefeller family. It only makes sense then, that his former patron, David Rockefeller, began a series of “business trips” to China in 1973, the aftermath of the Mao-Nixon summit. His objective: to begin working relationships between Chinese and American banks, in order to facilitate American investment in China.

    One of Deng Xiaopeng’s first acts after taking power was to call upon Rong Yiren, known as the “Red Capitalist”, to lead the newly created China International Trust and Investment Corporation (CITIC). Rong was a wily pre-revolution industrialist who had somehow managed to stay alive and keep hold of a good chunk of his money throughout the long decades of Mao’s rule. The fact that he accomplished this feat should tell the reader all they need to know — Rong Yiren was a serious operator. The purpose of his new state-owned CITIC venture was to attract foreign investors for commercial projects in China.

    Rong led a delegation of CITIC officials to Rockefeller Center in Manhattan in 1980. I’ll let Mr. Mikhail Chussodovsky, author of “Towards Capitalist Restoration?: Chinese Socialism after Mao” explain:

    The 1979 visit of Deng Xiaoping to the US was followed in June 1980 by the equally significant encounter in Wall Street of Rong Yiren, chairman of CITIC, and David Rockefeller. The meeting, held in the penthouse of the Chase Manhattan Bank complex, was attended by senior executives of close to 300 major US corporations. A major agreement was reached between Chase, CITIC, and the Bank of China, involving the exchange of specialists and technical personnel to ‘identify and define those areas of the Chinese economy most susceptible to American technology and capital infusion’.

    In other words, Mr. Rong and Mr. Rockefeller brought together corporate America and the Chinese government, so they could be co-investors in projects to develop China’s economy. Only David Rockefeller could have brought together such a large and influential group of investors.

    This project was such a success that it led directly to China’s rise to become the world’s largest economy. Not all of this investment was coming from American mega-capitalists like the Rockefellers and their friends in the Big Four American banks. Many projects were also funded through CITIC by wealthy “overseas Chinese”, Japanese zaibatsu and other players. But much of it was funded by American investors. Kissinger was in the midst of it. Beginning in the late 1980s, his firm, China Advisers, did brisk business assisting Fortune 500 clients in gaining CITIC’s approval for investment projects in China. Thanks to his connections with China’s leadership, the Rockefeller family and, through them, CITIC’s boss, Rong Yiren, Kissinger had the guanxi to make it happen for Americans looking to earn good returns in China.

    The Rockefeller family’s flagship institution, Chase Bank, also made out handsomely on the influx of foreign direct investment to China. Remember, all they ever wanted was for China to grow economically, so that China could become a nation of reliable consumers of Rockefeller empire products. In 1997, that dream, which the family had nursed since the 1910s, finally became a reality, when the Chinese government issued $500 million of bonds on the international capital markets. Chase Bank (now known as JP Morgan & Chase) was the joint underwriter. The wealth being generated by the investments that Rockefeller, Kissinger, Deng and Rong Yiren had facilitated had now enriched the Chinese state enough that it could be a reliable client to international creditors like the Rockefeller financial empire.

    • Replies: @Pater
  104. @Yee

    ‘This is disgusting…
    If we are such a menace, just sever all relations with China. Why do you ALWAYS create an enemy for your people to fight?’

    You’re not very good at this. Perhaps you should look into whether Israel offers hasbara classes.

  105. @Mevashir

    And how did they push them? It was the extortionist interest rates that made it cheaper to build new plants overseas than invest in renewal in the US. At the same time, people had to walk away from their houses because the mortgage payments went through the roof.
    The US economy has been in controlled demolition since the early 70s.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  106. I condensed a 2015 campaign speech that candidate Trump gave in South Carolina:

    Illegal aliens are invading the USA.

    Veterans are being mistreated by the VA.

    Jobs have gone to China.

    That simple message won the 2016 New Hampshire GOP presidential primary for Trump and it won him the 2016 GOP presidential primary in South Carolina and it won him the GOP presidential nomination and the White House.

    Tweet from 2015:

  107. @Franz

    We were the guys in industry who told you China was stealing patents, processes and placing industrial spies all over the USA during the 90s and I know you pretended to hear at least once or twice.

    I am always amazed at the number of people who think the US hasn’t done the same thing. I wonder how many of the patents and processes “stolen” by the Chinese, were German patents stolen by the US post WWII?

    https://www.456fis.org/GREAT_PATENTS_HEIST.htm

    • Replies: @Franz
  108. [Too many totally repetitive comments/tweets]

  109. Daniel H says:

    Neither China nor Russia is a threat to us. The US Government is a threat to her own people and the US Government is a threat to the entire world.

    • Agree: Ron Unz, follyofwar
  110. Pater says:
    @Anon2020

    Too much money and too many vested interests at stake for this to happen.

  111. Yee says:

    Colin Wright,

    “You’re not very good at this. Perhaps you should look into whether Israel offers hasbara classes.”

    Anyone who offers a different opinion outside of the Western media’s official narrative of China must be a propagandist…

    This is what I call top-notch brainwashing of the West. It even get their people convinced they have critical thinking while believing nothing except the narratives being fed to them, and insult people who dare to say anything different. You believe them when they said China was collapsing, you believe them when they say “China is the greater threat”.

    The US has the craftiest ruling class in the world, hands down.

    I have no use for hasbara classes, thank you. I’m just a working class Chinese mainlander telling my own opinion in my spare time. If you can read Chinese, you’d find plenty of people like me on Chinese forums.

  112. Pater says:
    @Malla

    Somebody remind me, what did Lenin say about capitalists & ropes?

    • Replies: @Malla
  113. @peterAUS

    Showme is right to be suspicious of the Beeb. You will remember that they aired a report announcing the collapse of WTC7 twenty minutes before the event with the standing building seen on a screen behind the reporter.

    The Beeb, by the way, is required by law to keep two copies, offsite, in different locations of everything they air.

    Somehow this segment is missing.

    Number of people fired or disciplined for this?

    Zero.
    You can catch it here,

    • Replies: @peterAUS
  114. peterAUS says:
    @Bill Jones

    Showme is right to be suspicious of the Beeb.

    Definitely.

    NOT in this case.
    The case is: the regime in Beijing used the military to resolve the crisis.

    Don’t mind that drivel posted by that author. He knows what’s he doing.
    I don’t mind it posted by “5 cents brigade” either.

    My interest are otherwise sane people. More importantly, what’s the percentage of such types around places where I live/move.

  115. Anon2020 says:

    The HK protesters are now raising and saluting US flags in HK and singing the US national anthem.

    WTF? Since when did HK become a territory of the US? Clearly these are puppets of the Pence-Pompeo-Bolton axis of evil, who see the need to meddle in every country’s business. These Zionist filths need to mind our own damn business and leave everyone else the fuck alone! And stop crying the crocodile tears for the Uighurs. We wish our government has the balls to do what China does to prevent more terror attacks in the US.

    Pat Buchanan needs to pull his head out of his ass on China. He disagrees vehemently with the axis of evil on all things Mideast, Venezuela and Russia, why suddenly agree with them on everything about China? He’s as misguided as msm and those congress critters by the Zionist filth, who finally found a common enemy to unite both sides on. These hatemongers won’t stop until they get us into the next war, whoever it’s with doesn’t matter.

    When it comes to foreign policy, whatever Pence-Pompeo-Bolton advocates, root for the opposite, and you’d be doing what’s right for America and the world.

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  116. Anon2020 says:
    @Realist

    US wants China to tolerate violent protesters like we do Antifa. I hope the Chinese government shows some balls and kicks some serious asses, send all the violent protesters to jail. They are clearly trained and egged on by US consulate.

    • Agree: Realist
  117. Lin says:
    @Showmethereal

    The government is atheist but not the majority of the people.”
    …………….
    China is definitely the most secular/agnostic big country, and the most secular old civilisation
    And you have little idea regarding religiousity in China.
    Some basic facts:
    –First of all, it’s difficult to define what ‘confucism’ is; and if confucism is a ‘religion’, it’s at most a secular religion. A good example: Both Jesus and Confucius had parentage issue;christian tell us Jesus is Son of god and ancient Chinese history records state Confucius was a bastard(illegit child).
    –Traditional Chinese religions like confucism, buddhism, taoism, folk religions are not institutionised.Rather they are diffused. There’re no conversion rituals for the average believers.
    –With the exception of muslims, even the more religious Chinese do not inherit their religions from their parents. Religions have their roots in China but the average Chinese don’t have religious roots in the sense religions are on and off things and chinese do switch from one religion to another more often than other people.
    I’m a protestant Christian(of alternative conviction) and I also have buddhist sibblings
    …………
    One of the biggest holidays in China is a pagan ritual called “tomb sweeping”
    Apparently you don’t know what you’re talking about. “tomb sweeping” literally mean tending the tombs of dead ancestors, like cleansing the tomb stone, cutting the overgrown near the tomb. ‘Pagan’? I’m sure the Christians the world over do the same.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    , @Showmethereal
  118. Anon2020 says:
    @anonymous

    I don’t know why UR allows a Troll button. On a site that embraces free speech such as this, no commenter should be deemed a Troll. All comments and opinions are valid, whether you personally agree with it or not.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
    , @anonymous
  119. Anon2020 says:
    @nsa

    the wily Chinese will not allow (((western financial services))) to penetrate their domestic economy

    Not as wily as you think. In 2018 China began allowing foreign investors to purchase A shares in the Shanghai Stock Exchange, and they also began allowing foreign banks to open wholly owned subsidiaries in China. They were convinced by the (((western economists))) that they need to do this to make Shanghai the next world financial center.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  120. DB Cooper says:
    @Showmethereal

    China needs Christianity like dogs need rabies. Screw that nonsense. You can absolutely be an anything, atheist or otherwise and do the pagan ritual of tomb sweeping. That’s the beauty of the culture. It is only the West that is fussy and sensitive on this kind of things. And its not just China, pretty much all East Asian countries are like that.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  121. Malla says:
    @Pater

    Like lynching capitalists? Those are for the wrong kind/small kind of Capitalists, those capitalists your own BIG capitalist funders want to get rid off.

  122. DB Cooper says:
    @Lin

    I suspect Jesus was an illegitimate child too. I think what happened is that Mary was either raped or had premarital sex with someone in her village and got pregnant. In those days this means certain death for the woman, often by stoning. By the way this practice still exist in conservative society in the middle east and Afghanistan today. Knowing this Joseph agreed to take Mary as his wife in order to save Mary’s life. The Bible said Joseph was a kind man. But the thing is that the timing probably didn’t added up because the pregnancy would due much earlier than the nine months. So the couple cooked up this tale of Mary being impregnated by God himself and fool those iron age peasants in their village. This is the origin of the virgin birth story, which the foundation of Christianity. Growing up Joseph and Mary must have told Jesus that Joseph was not his real father but God is. You can imagine in that impressionable age being constantly told your father is God must have a big impact on Jesus mind. And this is why Jesus, according to the Bible, constantly said his father is God.

    This should be taught in every Sunday school in America.

    • Replies: @Malla
  123. Malla says:
    @Realist

    Many French nationalists during and before WW2 already saw American style Democracy as destructive and open to ((tribal)) manipulations.

    Pierre Antoine Cousteau, a French nationalist, established a link in between Modern USA and Jews as active agents on the plane of spiritual corruption.

    Cousteau had spent a good deal of time in the USA. His father, personal secretary to an American banker, moved the family to New York in the early 1920s and the teenage Pierre Antione found himself a student at De Witt Clinton High School in Manhatten. The school had a huge Jewish enrollment. Cousteau seems to have blended well into the environment. The young Pierre’s life was filled with joy and interest in a city and nation that he felt both a part of and entirely distinct from. He would later reflect that,”It was a very Paul Morand experience, big business, adventure, Broadway, sophisticated girls, Ziegfield follies, the New World, people without prejudices, possibilities without limits.” He returned to France with his family after less than a year but in 1924 went back to take a job in a Manhatten bank. But with time his disappointment with the nation had begun. Before leaving again for France, he undertook an enormous cross country camping trip that was a mix of of the best time of his life and miserable experience which forever soured him on America.
    In a sub-text in L’Amerique Juive, he explains how he became anti-American, as he did more thoroughly after the war in his semi-autobiographical En Ce Temp-la….
    He explains,”America was like paradise, all so great that it was only later that I would realize what a colossal error it was!I remember from my travels of 6000 km the Coca Cola signs…the Coca Cola obsession”

    The American passion of camping was explained as partly a desire to create authenticity where there was none, uniting contemporary Americans with their frontier past.

    In a country lacking any spirituality, the self-denial of comforts inherent in camping, this self-denial served as a substitute. The New World is empty and inauthentic.

    In Gringoire, Jacques Audran wrote, “typical of America’s obsession with the new. It is not surprising America is now engaged in an all out war on the past.” Raymond Recouly’s account in the same journal cites similar enemies of Europe; speculation was everywhere, money has taken over and it was the Judafied Puritan America, with its counterpart materialism now which rules the nation. The European right was opposed to America on the debts issue. The common themes of criticism by French and European rightists/traditionalists of American life included Roosevelt, the New Deal, Hollywood, scandals, economic instability, gangsters and organised crime, the “vie quotidienne” of New York City, weird religious movements, Huey Long and the American university system.

    Cousteau’s prominence at the paper was closely linked with the rise of young Brasillach. When only twenty years old, Brasillach wrote ‘The whole American tragedy is contained in her literature. The literature is always about revolt, with its Romantic drawbacks or accepting a purely mechanical conformity, a submission to the civilization of the money maker and the a Puritan.”

    By the 1930s Cousteau was of the opinion that America was the the “idiotic cretin that spouts ‘democracy’”. America was not a land of hope and excitement but rather “the land of stupidity and sadness, hypocricy and vulgarity”.

    The New World was Judaism writ large. Evangelical, puritanical and hypocritical, America interfered in the affairs of France.

    These disdain for Jews by Cousteau was a French nationalist concern and not German National Socialist ideology. In the opening of L’Amerique-juive, his book pays constant homage to Edouard Drumont’s La France juive, and Cousteau informs his readers that he too was once taken-in, fascinated and entrapped by the ‘American mirage’.

    He writes, “America had been following a crash course with history, They had been prosperous despite their political structure, The crucial test, the crucial mistake, came with the Civil War, when all that was noble and decent in America was sacrificed. The victory of the North condemned America eternally to a path of democracy and decadence.”

    The decent America of the past, the Old world nation of plantations and manners was subverted by the historical accident of Northern victory. Thus one is presented with the authentic America just like the True France of Vichy that fell to the forces of democracy and decadence (just like the Third Republic).

    “Lincoln not only freed the blacks, he also prepared the way for America to be colonized by Jews. And the America that triumphed in 1865 was the America for aggressive Puritanism”. This is common in the works of Lucien Romier.

    The Civil war was the locus of troubles, including the introduction of the masters of modernity, the Jews.”Freeing the slaves was nothing but an alibi for the North to democratize the nation and exploit the South. Then, just in time, the Jews of Europe arrive: Within half a century the entire country will be theirs”

    America’s double flaw, democracy and modernity was immediately seized on by Jews to permit them control. The Jewish Old Testament influenced Puritan mind behind America, with its obsession with material success in this world indicating spiritual selection for the next, was ideally suited for Jewish collaboration. This formula was far from the French and the wider European dream of spiritual perfection.

    He came to America as a young student and expected to see the land of his dreams, the land that the French press had prepared him to encounter:

    “Frigidaires, chewing gum, sex appeal, gangsters, automats, slaughterhouses, five and tens, Taylorism, “petting”……..I knew everything essential about America except the Jews! I entered a Jewish school (De Witt Clinton) in a Jewish city (New York) and it seemed that it was not an American but a Jewish triumph in the New World”

    Cousteau came to the conclusion that for all practical purposes: There was no difference now between America and Jews because in the rush for democracy, the Jew had been allowed to conquer the nation.

    But before Cousteau took the reader to new York, the belly of the beast, he introduced another America. The true America of the Midwest, the America that potentially provided the nation’s salvation:

    “In the Midwest, the true Americans, the descendants of the pioneers, have continued in their ways despite the ravages of modernity, cinema etc. It is here that I experienced the hospitality of the prairie, even the cities of the Midwest retain something of it. ..after all there are no longer Jews in heavy industry and there were never any in Midwestern farming”

    So the heartland was the paradise, a place of potential and reserve that has been reduced to secondary status by the Jews. New York represented all that the Jews had done to conquer and destroy America.

    • Replies: @Realist
  124. @Anon2020

    Anon2020, you are 100% correct in your assessment and this is the best comment by far superseding in merit the article itself.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  125. @peterAUS

    BBC = news? Hahahahahahahaha, silly peter, Trix are for kids!! Did you see when the lorries passed by amidst the claimed gunfire from them. Did you see any gun barrel flash from the guns, let alone any guns aimed at people. This is fake news at it’s finest. Staged Hollywood propaganda = u da fool!!

  126. Parfois1 says:
    @Anon2020

    In 2018 China began allowing foreign investors to purchase A shares in the Shanghai Stock Exchange, and they also began allowing foreign banks to open wholly owned subsidiaries in China.

    Thank you for that info. I’m a bit curious about foreign banking operations in China because recently I researched that topic and all I found out was that foreign banks are now allowed to open branches in China but their operations are restricted to being intermediaries in international trade only, not full banking services.

  127. Franz says:
    @Curmudgeon

    I wonder how many of the patents and processes “stolen” by the Chinese, were German patents stolen by the US post WWII?

    Quite a few. But they were taken as war reparations, as fair & square looted booty. AGFA the German film consortium among others.

    Given an opportunity, the Germans at least attempted to resist. USA? Never happen.

    At LTV Steel in particular the 90s was a grab and scram party that the company brass knew about and cared less about, because they were financing it and intended to make a tidy profit. I am sure they did.

    There’s at least a distinction if not an outright difference.

    The Japanese I worked for back then told me straight up that if any Japanese manager acted like most American managers at these “global” corporations, they’d be expected to jam an expensive family sword into their innards to make amends.

    Americans don’t make amends. They sell it to foreigners at knock-down rates and brag about it.

  128. Realist says:
    @Malla

    Thanks for the interesting information. I was born and raised in the Midwest.

    • Replies: @Malla
  129. TTSSYF says:
    @NATO Blues

    And you think he’d actually be able to do that and not have some federal judge block it, tying it up for years until it gets to SCOTUS? Well, I suppose the attempt alone could be a good first step.

  130. TTSSYF says:
    @Anon2020

    If all comments and opinions are valid, then the Troll button (which, in this case, I used as succinct way of expressing my opinion that the reply was intended only as a taunt or insult and not put forth in a good-faith effort to discuss) is valid.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  131. Malla says:
    @DB Cooper

    This is the origin of the virgin birth story, which the foundation of Christianity

    Actually the virgin birth story is much more ancient than Jesus Christ. The birth of the ancient Egyptian God Horus (Sun God) by Goddess Isis is very similar to the Jesus born from Mother Mary story. Involves a holy spirit impregnating Goddess Isis and the virgin birth of Lord Horus. And Horus was worshiped on a Sunday too, just like Jesus.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
  132. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon2020

    Considering the source,
    TROLL = SURRENDER

  133. @Ghan-buri-Ghan

    That is getting to the point. China is more of a threat to Tel Aviv than it is to DC. To the people of those two countries, China isn’t a threat, but to the governments and the controllers of governments, it is.

  134. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    The impression left with me is that you’re emotionally invested in and defensive about your beliefs.

    Look back through our “good-faith effort to discuss” the origin of the rhetorical use of “‘Murcan” — you refused to accept new information, first by dissembling about your own question and then dismissing it as immaterial. As a last resort, you press TROLL.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  135. Tick Tock says:

    Pat is a moron and has been all his life. Like a broken clock he gets somethings correct but only by accident. It was not the Swamp but the Deep State Swine (AKA Jews) who sold the USA to China since Ronald Reagan goatfucked the country. Too late now boys and girls. The Fat Lady sung a while ago. No functional Education System in USA. No functional Legal System in USA. No functional Economic System in USA. Hey, after 50 years of goatfucking things get really bad. That’s where we are today and Pat the moron Buchanan has done his part. Rather pathetically I might ad but he made his millions. Pat, go back to the sewer or cesspool up your mother’s arse wherever you belong.

  136. The treasonous rat JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire used stooge whore politician Richard Nixon as a front man to go to China and signal that the rancid rodent JEW/WASP ruling class was going to use cheap labor from China to de-industrialize the USA and to pauperize and immiserate the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The treasonous rats in the JEW/WASP ruling class had a plan to destroy the USA as a sovereign nation and they put it into place starting with treasonous rodent Richard Nixon going to China in 1972.

    The nasty rat JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire had a large plot to attack and destroy the United States and to attack the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The evil and immoral treason rat JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire had the horrible slob whore LBJ implement the 1965 Immigration Act.

    The nation-wrecking JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire ordered Nixon to go off the gold standard in 1971. Nixon’s decision to go to a debt-based fiat currency system allowed the globalizer banker rats to plunder the globe using money electronically conjured up out of nothing.

    The evil JEW/WASP ruling class rats then sent that disgusting Republican Party treasonous rat Nixon to China to signal that cheap Chinese labor and de-industrialization of the USA was soon to be underway.

    The disgusting nation-killing rats in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire have had their nation-wrecking plans in place for 50 years or more.

    The evil and immoral and treasonous JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire must be removed from power and dislodged from any and all places of power in the United States of America.

    The Republican Party is evil and treasonous and the Republican Party is nothing more than a disgusting evil front for the horrible dirtbags in the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

  137. Anon2020 says:

    The raising of the American flag in HK was a dead giveaway. You just know that those rebel rousers were egged on by the US, and were promised something in return for their “fight for freedom”, like asylum in the US when the Chinese government inevitably clamps down. It’s the fastest ticket to a free green card.

    Why can’t these Zionist filth CIA drones just leave other countries the fuck alone?!

  138. China and Israel are clear and present threats to the safety, security and sovereignty of the United States of America.

    • Replies: @Anon2020
  139. Anon2020 says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Israel is a major threat to the US and the whole world.

    China is a cheat but not a threat. We just need to decouple our economy from theirs, ban all their citizens from entering the US, then leave them the hell alone. The Chinese government already has 1.4 billion mouths to feed, the last thing they need is to look for more mouths to feed. They know they do not have the military capability to take us on, and their economy needs us more than we need them. The China threat is about as real as the Russian hoax.

    Neither the Chinese nor the Russians have a stranglehold on the US government the way Israel does through their powerful diaspora. Seriously please wake the F up. If you are wise to the ways of the Ziocons in the mideast, you should be wise to all their foreign policy, which is 100% Zionist interest based. The biggest reason they are setting their sights on China is because of Iran, because China refuses to play ball, and because China still wouldn’t let the Zio bankers plunder from their economy the way they did the US.

    China is just another red herring. Wake up.

  140. @Curmudgeon

    The world began to rebuild itself. US dominance happened because most of the rest of the world was destfoyed by two world wars. The US mainland was untouched (though the Germans sunk a lot of commercial vessels off the coast). Once the world got back on solid footing US dominance was not going to last. Doesnt mean mistakes werent made and doesnt mean the US cant still prosper. But to expect the rest of the world to remain poor was hubris. “American exceptionalism” was more geographic than anything else. Had WW1 and 2 happened in North and South America rather than where it did – that “golden generation” wouldnt have been named as such.

    • Replies: @Malla
    , @Anon2020
  141. @Lin

    1) i never even mentioned Confucius. Thats philosophy not a spiritual belief

    2) Europeans are more atheistic and agnostic nowadays

    3) tomb sweeping is to honor the dead souls of ancestors. Atheists dont believe in souls. And “ancestor worship” is still prevelant in Chinese culture… Even in liberal “Taiwan”. So what are you sayimg about not understanding Chinese culture????

    4) by stating you are a protestant christian and have buddhist siblings you prove my point… Chinese are not majority atheists.

    • Replies: @Lin
  142. @DB Cooper

    You can attempt to insult my faith – that is fine. Doesnt change the fact that China has the 2nd most self professed Christians in the world. Oh and in case you didnt know Christian doctrine predated European invasions in China. It first arrived in the 700’s AD. It was accepted by the emperor and given official status. Western China even had bishops – long before Marco Polo and the later Jesuits. Christianity was in western China before Islam. Historical fact.

    As to tomb sweeping. That is am oxymoron to say an atheist participates in a tomb sweeping. Its like a Muslim going to a Hindu temple because its fashionable. Tomb sweeping was indedd a ritual. No slef respecting atheists (yes sarcasm) would be caught dead doing it (pun intended).

    • Replies: @Anon2020
    , @DB Cooper
  143. Malla says:
    @Showmethereal

    But to expect the rest of the world to remain poor was hubris.

    Of course that is hubris and the rest of the world did not remain poor for long. Western Europe and Japan sprang back and even the USSR and Eastern block countries saw massive economic growth for some decades after the war. Later many of the Tigers of Asia and countries like Ireland became prosperous too.
    But the USA as a nation actively destroying itself for the interest of the industrialist/banking elites and emerging markets, is another kind of hubris.

  144. peterAUS says:

    I guess that around 10 % of people who peeked at this thread have seen those two videos from my comment 60. Hopefully, even before I posted the links.
    Now…..around 20 % of those, perhaps, tried to dig a bit deeper into it. So, a couple of questions for you guys:
    1. WHO were the guys in that APC that got firebombed?
    2. What happened to the weapons taken from the State Security people?
    3. WHO fired the first shots in confrontations between advancing columns and the protesters? And why, of course.

    I have posted the same questions in some other related threads with zero results.
    Hehe…maybe more luck here.

  145. Anon2020 says:
    @Showmethereal

    US never stood a chance. As soon as we started letting in the Jews by large numbers in the late 1800’s it was the beginning of the end. Now the takeover is complete, they have total control via the deep state and we will never be great again. Trump was our last hope and he turned out to be a complete fraud.

  146. Anon2020 says:
    @Showmethereal

    How many of those who professed to be Christians in China are just using it as a way to get out of China, by seeking asylum claiming persecution of Christians.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  147. DB Cooper says:
    @Malla

    May be Goddess Isis was raped too. 🙂

  148. DB Cooper says:
    @Showmethereal

    Yes I know that Christianity first show up in China during the Tang dynasty. At that time it was called the “Jing” religion. Fortunately it didn’t leave any influence on Chinese culture and pretty much vanished without a trace.

    “Doesnt change the fact that China has the 2nd most self professed Christians in the world.”

    If that is the case then it is really sad, for humanity sake. This thing is like a virus and has been screwing Europe for the last two thousands years. Now it has spread to China. This is deplorable. Jesus Christ.

  149. I suspect

    The operative words of a mud-wallowing yarn.

    The true Light was coming into the world.

  150. H. S. says:

    ”THE THIRD FORCE OF WORLD WAR III”

    “1. All efforts, including from the elite of international finance, should be made to stop the war.”

    “2. Russia should become the real leader of the new process. (It has already become it but not yet aware of the fact.) The West and Israel need a strategic alliance with the Muslim world more than anything else, and this alliance is possible only through Russia. Only Russia in an alliance with the Muslim world can keep China in check without conflicts, helping it find its new place in the world as another super-power.”

    FROM:

    “Is China behind all that has been happening?”
    Author: Viktor Minin
    [from WPS Monitoring Agency, http://www.wps.ru/e_index.html%5D
    http://www.russialist.org/archives/5497-14.php

    [MORE]

    “THE AMERICANS DON’T REALIZE IT YET, BUT CHINA HAS WRITTEN ITS OWN SCRIPT FOR SQUEEZING THE UNITED STATES OFF THE WORLD STAGE. CHINA SUPPORTS ACTIONS OF THE WEST AIMED AT MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA AND THE MUSLIM WORLD. THE WEST, RUSSIA, ISRAEL, AND THE MUSLIM WORLD MUST WORK TOGETHER.”

    “THE WESTERN SCRIPT

    Using techniques of manipulating public opinion, the West is trying to establish the illusion of a global forces with the fascist- like ideology of Wahhabi fundamentalism. As far as the West is concerned, Wahhabi and Islam are the same thing. It is because of this that the essential terrorism of Wahhabi ideas is being formulated so simply for public consumption: all Muslims are terrorists by nature.

    The preliminary objective of brainwashing (Islam is the basis of terrorism) is thus achieved. Therefore, the terrorist world of Islam should be maneuvered into fighting Russia. Russia and the Muslim world will destroy each other, and the West will gain access to the natural resources on their territories. The dollar pyramid will straighten once again, and the economic crisis will be over. Life goes on.

    Apart from the need to shock the international community with atrocities of Islamic terrorists, this script requires the presence of some country fundamental for this particular global force. It should answer the following requirements: a large Muslim population, government based on military dictatorship (which allows prompt replacement of the leader); borders with Russia, China, and India; nuclear arsenals; and a well-trained army with combat experience. Pakistan is an ideal fit, and Afghanistan is just a capsule.

    Continuation of the script after the terrorist attacks in the United States: retaliatory strikes at Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, and so on, depending on the situation. A dramatic rise in anti-American sentiments throughout the Muslim world as a result. A coup in Pakistan, leading to the rise of a radical Wahhabi leader there. Unification of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    A Taliban invasion of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan will follow. Conflicts with Iran and Iraq will follow. The second phase of preferable armed conflicts is as follows: Iran and Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Turkey and Greece, Georgia and Abkhazia, China and Taiwan, North Korea and South Korea, Israel and Palestine, and escalation of the situation in Chechnya. Russia will inevitably find itself dragged into some war or other, and declare general mobilization. Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, and some other ethnic republics will refuse to go to war under those circumstances. The rest of the population of Russia will also object. All this may result in a drastic destabilization in Russia, and a loss of control. Things may even reach extremes, ending in a military coup or disintegration of the Russian Federation.

    However, some details indicate that this particular script has bogged down. The world is different now. In the past, it was sufficient to torch the Reichstag or assassinate a prince; but now, even the horrors of September 11 no longer suffice.

    That is why some sort of “fuel” is needed to give the script momentum – terrorist attacks on the scale of September 11, but not in America alone. Over there, in Europe, and in Russia as well. Anthrax is just a prelude. Controllable terrorism, however, has its own limits. Russia knows, for example, that “Chechen terrorists” will no longer suffice. After all, linking them to Islam is fairly difficult.

    But even that is not the key point. Certain indirect aspects indicate that the script considered here is not the only one. Most probably, it is not even the whole script, just part of an even larger one. In accordance with the latter, Russia and the Muslim world fighting each other are not the only objectives. The West and Israel are too. It follows that some unknown Contractor and Player must be present somewhere. This script becomes possible when we assume that some Western elites and secret services made a kind of covert pact with this still-unknown Player.

    All this is only made easier by the fact that the United States is internally not prepared to carry out the task; its elites are split, and the gap first shown in the Bush-Gore election is only widening. The dollar may fail to withstand the new war, and could actually begin falling soon. This would rekindle and legitimize long- standing racial tensions. The ideology of liberalism and democracy as the most effective system is dead. It is time this fact was recognized.

    And what might this new, unknown third force be like? It should be invisible and still in politics, like an old crocodile hunting, pretending to be a log in the water. The Americans don’t realize it yet – but it isn’t all that hard to understand that the third force is China.

    THE CHINESE SCRIPT

    A few words about China as a super-power. Population in excess of 1.2 billion, economy larger than that of the United States, a professional army numbering almost 4 million men, gold and hard currency reserves enough to repel any American attack and virtually turn all of Southeast Asia into its own currency zone. An ample volume of dollars is a defense and a financial weapon to be used against the dollar itself. Throw a great deal of dollars into the market all at once, and the dollar will crash. A conflict with Taiwan may follow. It will be a conflict waged with American money, with American weapons, investment, and high technology. Add the nuclear factor here. Suffice it to recall the recent scandal when Chinese intelligence obtained all major nuclear secrets of the United States. Birth rates in China are no longer being kept down; defense spending has been increased. China is buying up armaments and military hardware.

    China has thoroughly studied the Western technique of getting out of crises via controllable armed conflicts and wars. It has written its own script for squeezing the United States off the world stage. The Western script becomes an episode in a larger game.

    Contents of the script:

    – while remaining inactive and all but invisible, China retains and replenishes its resources;

    – China supports actions of the West aimed at mutually assured destruction of Russia and the Muslim world;

    – China supports bilateral conflicts in line with the Western script;

    – China becomes ideologically active and active in the military sense when the moment is ripe;

    – when the conflicts are over, China moves into the new territories…

    The global conclusion is simple. This is the first time strategic interests of the West, Russia, Israel, and the Muslim world coincide. We can only survive together.

    Under the unfolding script, all of us are victims. China has already won, strategically and tactically.

    The test is plain – we will sink or swim together. The new global Chinese order will follow the rules the Americans drew up for themselves. What counts is that the “golden billion” of the world’s population alone will prosper; the remaining 4 billion are expendable. Unlike the United States, to say nothing of the Russians or Jews, China has this billion already. All of us are expendable in this wicked colonial system of distribution of resources.

    Proposals:

    1. All efforts, including from the elite of international finance, should be made to stop the war.

    2. Russia should become the real leader of the new process. (It has already become it but not yet aware of the fact.) The West and Israel need a strategic alliance with the Muslim world more than anything else, and this alliance is possible only through Russia. Only Russia in an alliance with the Muslim world can keep China in check without conflicts, helping it find its new place in the world as another super-power.

    3. Leaders of Russia, America, Israel, Europe, Iran, India, and international financial capitals must initiate a dialogue over leaving this crisis behind and preventing events like those which swept America on September 11.

    A time of change is upon us, and it’s futile to wish we were living in some other era. We have to change ourselves and change the world…”

    (Translated by A. Ignatkin)

    #14
    Novaya Gazeta
    No. 75
    October 2001

    http://www.russialist.org/archives/5497-14.php

  151. Lin says:
    @Showmethereal

    Apparently you’re ignorant regarding what ‘religion’, ‘agnostic’,’atheism’, ‘ancestor worship’ … mean.
    To start with, obviously you aren’t aware that because china is a heavily populated country and lacks farmland, the Chinese govt discourages burial. Nowadays,the majority of deceased Chinese are cremated.
    –‘ Religion’ basically could mean any belief system 1)that contains elements of non-rationality and irrationality; eg,a communist who considers Marx infallible basically takes communism as a religion 2)that has certain amount of cultus rituals. I myself among others call confucism a ‘secular religion’ based on some simple facts a)In bigger Chinese cities, one can find a confucist temple and the employees might do some kind of ritual dance once a year. Such temples are more like tourist attraction than anything else. I visited such a temple once but I can’t remember its the temple in Nanjing or elsewhere b)Chinese have the notion sages/’holy men’ made mistake’. Chinese traditionally call Confucius ‘The most “holy” teacher’. All these attributes, like “holy”, “temple”, ‘holy men’ made mistake’ tell us confucism is a ‘secular religion’.
    –Agnosticism has a number of meanings: It could be statement like “I don’t care” or “I don’t know”,”I’ve a religion but it doesn’t occupy much of my life”…
    –Theism means the belief there is ONE or a number of power entity(ies) that creates the universe, created/sustain humankind, gave humans moral codes and watch them over. Atheism is denial of theism but the big majority of atheists are not radicals nor militants. The overwhelming majority of atheists would not mind attending funeral service presided by a clergyman.
    –You distort what I said: I call china the most secular and agnostic country and did NOT say the majority of Chinese are atheists(47% according to one survey)
    –I’m a Christian of alternative conviction because I respect Jesus as the greatest ever moral giant(but it doesn’t mean I agree with everything he said). I’m baptized but I no longer attend church service and I don’t belong to any organized religion. Lucifer/satan is the ‘lord of air/earth’ and God is the ‘heavenly father’ up in the sky so God in reality is a powerful extra-terrestrial alien with ability beyond human reach at present. God has sustained human on earth like a biologist sustains the micro-organism inside ‘his’ petri dish. But it doesn’t mean God is necessarily benevolent to humans: examples abound:1)God destroyed the ancient astro-observatory Babel(because humans were getting inquisitive) and perverted human linguistic unity 2)God genocided all the first born of Egypt just because his servant Moses couldn’t get along with the Pharaoh 3)Moses and his gangs killed 1000s of golden calf worshipper in an act of internal ethnic cleansing during exodus.
    Humans must break out from petri dish Earth and explore the universe otherwise after God the biologist conclude ‘his’ experiment, ‘he’ will say ‘that’s all, folks’ and throw petri dish earth into the hell incinerator.
    ……
    Basically you don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re brain washed by bible thumpers

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  152. Lin says:

    I wrote the following ‘parable’ to illustrate what went on between God and lucifer; just for fun.
    …………
    God is the master of the universe-time-space, I completely agree.
    But how about before the last big bang? ‘Time’ before time? Existence before creation?

    The universe before the last big bang, if there was any, had different sets of physical laws.Even ‘time’ might have a different meaning; like one can go back in ‘time’ easily and became your own biological father.

    I had a dream. I met an old fatherly figure with scaled skin, a majestic reptiloid being who kindly went through briefly the cosmic history with me:

    “Before the last big bang, the universe was a tranquil beautiful place with silicon-based treeoids, reptiloids,caninoids,insectoids living happily together under the benign rule of him, the reptiloid god. Space travel was easy because inertial was voided after a short prayer to the reptiloid super being. Then one of reptile god’s lieutenants, by the name Yahweh, tired of his silicon existence, had his evil ambition to usurp the divine throne. With his dark mind out bred a race of quad limbed carbon based violent humanoids who sworn allegiance to him. The reptile god’s planets fell one by one and during the nightfall war, Yahweh triggered a big bang to wipe out the remnant reptile force and hence also brought forth the present universe. The old reptile god self-exiled himself to an obscure corner of the new universe Yahweh wouldn’t bother

    To add insult to defeat, reptiles and canines were declared unclean

    • Replies: @Chinaman
  153. Russia is, and has always been since the Communists came to power in 1917, the worst spy against the USA. Russia at one time controlled half of Europe, and now is trying to reassert domination over Eastern Europe. Russia is also simulataneously giving military weapons and other crucial help to both Israel and its Muslim enemies in the Middle East, Iran and Syria. They did this previously with helping Israel and also its enemy Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party regime in Iraq. Russia under Stalin helped create both Israel and most of its Arab nationalist Muslim enemy states also in the first place, intentionally as a means of dragging the USA and Britain into endless quagmires in the Middle East. It is almost like Russia is intentionally helping enemy countries go to war with each other so that the USA will be dragged into a war in the region. Buchanan saying that China is more dangerous than Russia is ridiculous. Buchanan’s mentor Richard Nixon and Nixon’s Secretary of State Henry Kissinger both correctly regarded Russia as the greater menace, which was why they ended the USA’s support for the Kuomintang regime in Taiwanese China to the Communist regime on mainland China, so they could have an alliance with mainland China against Russia. China’s current Communist regime would not even exist if it had not been for Stalin helping Mao overthrow Chiang in the Kuomintang in the late 1940s. Buchanan is very obviously wrong here.

  154. TTSSYF says:
    @anonymous

    I hereby acknowledge that the “rhetorical use of “‘Murkan” originated with GWB’s mispronunciation of the word “American”. There — feel better? I still don’t think it’s a good idea to use it to snidely insult millions of heritage white American citizens as though they are all “dumber than a box of rocks”, as the originator of the comment stated, just because they might have voted for Trump in 2016 (and not all of them enthusiastically, I might add — I know many who did so quite reluctantly), nor is it clear why GWB’s mispronunciation of that word or any other word is relevant today, other than as a snide insult.

    Aren’t snide insults and condescension from Obama, Hillary, and others on the Left the reason working-class whites were driven to leaving the Dimwitrat party? I’d rather build bridges with working class whites, rather than insult them further.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  155. Interesting you bring up Japanese since in the 70’s and 80’s they were accused as heavily as China now of stealing US IP…
    But your comment about reparations are exactly how China felt… Payback on the the main western powers and Japan for its century of humiliation and “unequal treaties”.

  156. @Anon2020

    Check the numbers. Asylum seekers are a tiny percentage of China’s population. There are over 70 million Christians in China. Most asylum seekers claim political rather than religious persecution. Asia Times and an editorial about. You have over 100 million Chinese who leave China every year but less than 10,000 asylum seekers. It was actually written by a westerner showing another fallacy about China that people are breaking down the doors en masse to escape. I cant recall the author but it was in the last two months. You should be able to find it on their site.

  157. @Lin

    Your comment is frankly yawn inducing. Way down in the middle you prove the point I originally made which is that China has an officially athesit government – but the majority of the people are NOT (according to your own stat it is 53%). Everything else is semantic. An atheist I am very clear of the definition. Going to comfort someone at a funeral who has a dead loved one is not even co parable. If they participate in a prayer vigil then they cant be a real atheist. I am not confused. Just like I know one gender from another. You obviously have some issue with people you call “bible thumpers”. Oh well – that has nothing to do with facts I ststaed. You cant be a Buddhist and an atheist at the same time. No country on earthhas more Buddhists or Taoists than China. Only one nation has more Christians (Protestants specifically). There are 20 million practicing Muslims. There are an unquantified number of milljons all throughout rural areaz who still practice “folk religions”. None of these people can be “atheists”. Someone – many westerners – who claim Chinese people are almost all atheists are zimply wrong. Semantics dont change that.

    • Replies: @Lin
  158. Chinaman says:
    @Lin

    Lin…you believe in some weird things, if you really feel the need to assign intent and purpose to the universe and your own existence, the simulation argummet by Nick Bostrom is the only rational alternative to a universe from nothing.

    • Replies: @Lin
  159. Chinaman says:
    @Anon2020

    As a HKer, Thank you for pointing out the absurdity of the protesters. The timing of the protests and Trump thinly veiled threat to Xi of the escalation in this color revolution suggests that he plans to use it as a bargaining chip from the beginning. Even the protestors know that. Unfortunately, China won’t not yield and will sacrifice HK.

  160. Lin says:
    @Showmethereal

    First of all, you took an absolutist approach to ‘theism’,’atheism’,’agnostism’. If one can scan the opinions of as many people as possible, one can find there’re much grey areas between these ‘beliefs'(not to mention ‘belief’ carries the 1st step to ‘religion’). I’ve encountered people who call themselves ‘atheist christians’; many learned Buddhists stress buddha is NOT their god(which I disagree); Taoism is often called shamanism in Chinese setting by the more learned Taoists and the less educated Taoists just take it as a hotch potch of localized folk cultus. Some people call me a fanatical atheist but I disagree because humans are tiny entities in the universe so it’s reasonable to conclude there’re more powerful entities out there. I’m convinced your belief is a result of being brain washed by Christian fundamentalists because only Christian, muslim.. fundamentalist have such ‘take it or leave it’ absolutist approach. It’s not a matter of ‘semantics’ as such.
    ……..
    “If they participate in a prayer vigil then they cant be a real atheist. I am not confused.”
    ……
    If I pray to jesus to ask him to distant himself from his ‘Father’, am I anti-Christian? You’re worse than confused; you just can’t accept the fact that religions evolve and you’re not that learned regarding religions
    Not the least, Christian fundamentalists are anti-sodomite yet there’re people who call themselves ‘gay Christians’ and even have their own church.
    ……….
    Historically religions came, changed or simply faded or even disappear. My opinion is absolutist religions, like fundamentalist Christianity, are facing deep crisis: Knights of sodomite are rising from the cinders of fire and brimstone to seek vengeance; in a few decades, the mind and memory of the dying, sinners or saints, will be uploaded into a cybernetic paradise inside a super computer network where they’ll live happily ever after. Jesus, buddha…will be welcome as residential guests of honor. Immigration language requirement will be waived because the language translation/interpretation software BABEL finally got an new service pack.

  161. Lin says:
    @Chinaman

    “Lin…you believe in some weird things”

    Fact is you’re ignorant of the roles imagery and symbolism play in religion, and how religions came into being.

  162. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @TTSSYF

    The “box of rocks” comment was about those who at this point would still support Trump.

    If you slow down and read more carefully, maybe this won’t go so hard on you.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  163. TTSSYF says:
    @anonymous

    Re-read my reply (#78) to Hax Ang if you think I’ve misread.

  164. H. D. says:
    @Mevashir

    it might not be willingly but under compulsion from their Wall Street managers.

    I think you’re right:

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