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By the time Air Force One started down the runaway at Naval Air Station Sigonella in Sicily, to bring President Trump home, the Atlantic had grown markedly wider than it was when he flew to Riyadh.

In a Munich beer hall Sunday, Angela Merkel confirmed it.

Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said, “take our fate into our own hands. … The times in which we could rely fully on others, they are somewhat over.”

Merkel’s apprehensions are understandable. A divorce could be in the cards. During his visit to NATO in Brussels and the G-7 in Sicily, Trump, with both his words and body language, revealed his thinking on who are friends and who are freeloaders.

Long before arriving, Trump had cheered Brexit, the British decision to quit the EU, and shown a preference for nationalist Marine Le Pen in the French election won handily by Emmanuel Macron.

But when it comes to leaders, Trump seems to prefer Deke House to student council types. He has hailed Vladimir Putin as a “strong ruler” and “very smart.” In Riyadh, Trump declared King Salman a “wise man.” He calls China’s Xi Jinping “a great guy,” and welcomed Turkish autocrat Recep Tayyip Erdogan to the Oval Office: “It is a great honor to have you with us.”

When Egypt’s President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who has imprisoned and killed thousands of the Muslim Brotherhood, came to visit, Trump said, “He’s done a fantastic job in a very difficult situation.”

In a phone call, Trump also praised Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte, who has had narcotics dealers gunned down in the streets, for doing an “unbelievable job on the drug problem.”

Trump has even found merit in Kim Jong Un, the 33-year-old dictator of North Korea, describing him as a “a pretty smart cookie.”

And where Trump was photographed by the Russians grinning broadly with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, his confab with Merkel was marked by a seeming reluctance to shake hands.

But the disagreements with Europe are deeper than matters of style. Trump and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson have indicated that in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic norms and human rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.

In Riyadh, Trump signaled the Sunni King of Bahrain we will no longer be giving him instructions on how to treat his Shiite majority. We’re not “here to lecture,” Trump assured the Arab royals.

After the conclave, the king’s police killed five and wounded dozens of demonstrators outside the home of a Shiite cleric, and arrested 286 of his supporters.

Of greater concern to Trump and Tillerson is the retention of the Persian Gulf naval base of the U.S. 5th Fleet in Bahrain.

Trump also tilts toward GOP skepticism of the threat of global warming and is considering pulling out of the Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the environmentalist international.

In Brussels, Trump praised NATO’s decision to back the U.S. war in Afghanistan after 9/11, but did not specifically recommit to Article 5, requiring all NATO nations to treat an attack on one as an attack on all, which our nervous NATO allies had wanted to hear.

Instead, they got an earful of pure Trump about how they owed back pay for NATO and that only five NATO nations were meeting their obligation to allocate 2 percent of GDP to defense.

Merkel seemed to take this as an implied threat that the U.S commitment to defend Europe from a Russia with one-tenth of NATO-Europe’s GDP may be contingent, and may have a time limit on it.

Moreover, France, Britain and Germany appear far more solidly committed to the Iran nuclear deal than are Trump and Congress.

A U.S.-NATO collision could come here, and soon.

The Iranians have signed on to purchase 100 Airbus aircraft and 80 commercial airliners from Boeing. If the Republicans impose new sanctions on Iran, or scupper the Boeing deal, Europe would have to decide whether to abandon the Airbus sales, or deliver the planes and perhaps take over the Boeing contract. That could bring a crisis.

And any U.S. confrontation with Iran, pressed upon us by Saudis, Israelis and Sunni Arabs could find Europeans bailing out wholesale on the next U.S. war in the Middle East.

Trump also seems less committed to the sanctions on Russia for its reannexation of Ukraine and support of pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass than does NATO Europe or Congress.

From his rough remarks, Trump sees the Europeans as freeloaders on U.S. defense, laggards on their NATO contributions, and mercantilists who craft policies to run endless trade surpluses at our expense, especially the Germans who are “bad, very bad.”

The European half of Trump’s trip should be taken as a fire-bell-in-the-night warning: Shape up, Europe, or you may find yourselves on your own when it comes to the defense of your continent.

For we Americans have had about enough.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. That, and European societies are the ones that believe in the most backwards, anti-civilization values. For instance, Saudi Arabia’s policy on women is not great, but it’s still much preferable to any kind of feminism. Western nationalists probably have much more in common with Duterte, Erdogan, Putin etc, if not most of the non-western world.

    It’s kind of like how the Alt-Right and SJW ideologues are polar opposites, even though they’re both predominantly white. It is a division of your own making, probably caused by too much freedom, at least when it comes to treating leftists.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "For instance, Saudi Arabia’s policy on women is not great, but it’s still much preferable to any kind of feminism."

    Perhaps it is preferable to YOU, but the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia, while deplorable, is in effect none of our business if one is consistent with opposing the "invade the world, invite the world" lifestyle. Apparently, Trump has no issue with the Saudi's approach with their womenfolk or with their knack of supporting terrorism. Why not benefit his cronies in the military industrial complex by giving them billions of dollars in weapons? Not that some of those arms will find their way into the hands of Jihadists.
    , @millermp1
    Time to cut losses. Let Western Europe burn. And I say this as a European. If Eastern Europe can maintain the firewall, they deserve our support.

    It's increasingly evident that all the good Germans died in The War. No sense in shedding our blood and treasure for the detritus.
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  2. If Europeans have had a free ride, at least they don’t dictate US policy. Saudi Arabia may want America and Iran to fight, but such a war would not serve any conceivable American interest.

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    • Replies: @HogHappenin
    More than the Saudis, it the Israelis that want Iran bombed. Israel always have an offer the US can't refuse. It is like the classic case of the tail wagging the dog as Brother Nathaniel puts it quite clearly.

    I really wish the Gulf Arab monarchies become more open about their back channel 'outreach' to Tel Aviv (since they know that to coerce the US, they have to look towards where DC looks up to and that's just next door you know!). The whole disingenuous facade of being against Israel purely for the consumption of the local populace would unravel so beautifully, it would be like rich chocolate cake with hot coffee on a really cold windy day!!!
  3. Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said

    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?
    Currently, only US, UK, Poland, Greece, Estonia spend 2% or more on defense. Gee, why poor, devastated and almost bankrupt Greece can do it and Germany, the powerhouse of Europe, can’t?

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    • Replies: @European-American
    You forgot France, which spends more than 2% on defense, and more than the U.K., which now spends less than 2%.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
    , @Anonym
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?

    It is a sign that Merkel is beyond her useful life in office that she can't see that keeping up with obligations is part of life, especially for a country that was throwing its weight around with Greece. Inviting the world was the massive manifestation of her being out to lunch. There were probably precursors.

    If she stays in power, there won't be a Germany.
    , @Avery
    {Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany ....}

    Obligated to defend from what?
    Which country or countries are going to invade Germany?
    The answer is "None".

    NATO may have served a legitimate purpose to counter the Warsaw Pact (...even that is dubious....), but now its only purpose is to create trouble all over the world at the behest of US Globalists.

    NATO is an instrument of US imperial Globalist interests, nothing more.
    NATO can't or won't even defend West Europe - core of NATO - from massive unarmed invasion of 'refugees', but continues provoking Russia, hoping for a hot war.
    , @anon
    How exactly is America "defending" Germany? What country is threatening to attack Germany? Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands all border Germany. Not one of these countries are even remotely any conceivable threat to Germany. Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are "defending" the Germans from who? Even the British are dissolving the BAOR (British army on the Rhine) and bringing all their troops home, a mere thirty years after the Berlin wall fell.....

    Those troops are stationed in Germany to maintain the American empire, not to "defend" Germany.
  4. @Medvedev

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said
     
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?
    Currently, only US, UK, Poland, Greece, Estonia spend 2% or more on defense. Gee, why poor, devastated and almost bankrupt Greece can do it and Germany, the powerhouse of Europe, can't?

    You forgot France, which spends more than 2% on defense, and more than the U.K., which now spends less than 2%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

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  5. In a Munich beer hall Sunday, Angela Merkel confirmed it.

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said, “take our fate into our own hands.

    Ein volk, ein 4th reich, ein führer!

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    • Replies: @Wally
    You walked right into this:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the 'holocaust' scam debunked here:
    http://codoh.com
    No name calling, level playing field debate here:
    http://forum.codoh.com


    "Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."
    - Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist
     
    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the '6,000,000' lie since at least 1869?
    http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k598/WhiteWolf722/TheSixMillionMyth.jpg
  6. The NATO mutual defense guarantee should be treated like insurance….it lapses if you don’t pay at least the 2% of GDP premium.

    The US should say that in clear.

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  7. The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast."

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as "Westerners". Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this "break-up" as you so wholeheartedly endorse.
  8. So it’s mind your own business and you have to pay to play, it’s about time. NATO should have died 20 years ago, it is obsolete, Europe is all grown up now and should be on it’s own besides there is no enemy, Russia will never attack anyone they have plenty of everything. I ask again, “what has Russia ever done to America”?
    The foreign wars are ridiculous, nothing but trouble and hey Fuck Israel, who needs em? Time to pave the roads and make some money, give the Country a decent Heath Care system and start making something besides bombs and guns. If you do that you might have a chance of preventing the “could happen at any moment Civil War”.

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  9. @Medvedev

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said
     
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?
    Currently, only US, UK, Poland, Greece, Estonia spend 2% or more on defense. Gee, why poor, devastated and almost bankrupt Greece can do it and Germany, the powerhouse of Europe, can't?

    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?

    It is a sign that Merkel is beyond her useful life in office that she can’t see that keeping up with obligations is part of life, especially for a country that was throwing its weight around with Greece. Inviting the world was the massive manifestation of her being out to lunch. There were probably precursors.

    If she stays in power, there won’t be a Germany.

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    • Replies: @German_reader

    If she stays in power, there won’t be a Germany.
     
    Change that to "Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won't be a Germany".
    Which won't happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a "leader" of the west is ridiculous.
  10. I wholeheartedly agree that Europe needs to look out for itself but if they’ll truly be allowed to pursue an independent foreign policy and if Trump truly means what he says then he should order the U.S. occupation troops to come home immediately. Or Merkel should kick them out.

    There’s no reason for U.S. troops to remain in Germany other than for imperial purposes.

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  11. @Anonym
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?

    It is a sign that Merkel is beyond her useful life in office that she can't see that keeping up with obligations is part of life, especially for a country that was throwing its weight around with Greece. Inviting the world was the massive manifestation of her being out to lunch. There were probably precursors.

    If she stays in power, there won't be a Germany.

    If she stays in power, there won’t be a Germany.

    Change that to “Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won’t be a Germany”.
    Which won’t happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a “leader” of the west is ridiculous.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    Change that to “Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won’t be a Germany". Which won’t happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a “leader” of the west is ridiculous.

    Yes, that is more accurate. I was tired when I wrote what I did.

    I still hold out hope for Germany, but it is more a long term thing, if/when other white countries get back their mojo, Germans should fall in line with the zeitgeist. At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years' war.
  12. @Jason Liu
    That, and European societies are the ones that believe in the most backwards, anti-civilization values. For instance, Saudi Arabia's policy on women is not great, but it's still much preferable to any kind of feminism. Western nationalists probably have much more in common with Duterte, Erdogan, Putin etc, if not most of the non-western world.

    It's kind of like how the Alt-Right and SJW ideologues are polar opposites, even though they're both predominantly white. It is a division of your own making, probably caused by too much freedom, at least when it comes to treating leftists.

    “For instance, Saudi Arabia’s policy on women is not great, but it’s still much preferable to any kind of feminism.”

    Perhaps it is preferable to YOU, but the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia, while deplorable, is in effect none of our business if one is consistent with opposing the “invade the world, invite the world” lifestyle. Apparently, Trump has no issue with the Saudi’s approach with their womenfolk or with their knack of supporting terrorism. Why not benefit his cronies in the military industrial complex by giving them billions of dollars in weapons? Not that some of those arms will find their way into the hands of Jihadists.

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    • Replies: @Wally
    'Trump gave the Saudis billions of dollars in weapons'?

    Wrong. The Saudis at least pay for them.

    It's your preferred "shitty little country" that gets billions in free armaments EVERY YEAR ... at US taxpayers expense.

    It's noted that you also support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while you advocate for massive low IQ, criminal 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.
    , @Bel Riose
    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.
  13. @Diversity Heretic
    The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can't happen too fast.

    “The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast.”

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”. Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this “break-up” as you so wholeheartedly endorse.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”.
     
    Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?
    , @Diversity Heretic
    I usually don't respond to articulate trolls, but I'm going to make an exception. Since you're always asking posters on this site what they're doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?
    , @European-American
    > Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”

    It's a useful moniker in East Asia. Western food, clothing, culture.

    Western foreigners, as opposed to other kinds of foreigners, from other East Asian countries, other Asia, Africa, ...

    I expect Australians, Russians, would often also be lumped under "Westerner".

    From this perspective, it could be argued Middle Easterners are also Westerners.

    And Indians? They are certainly due West of China...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

    The French often use "occidentaux" to mean US and Europeans.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained.
  14. During his visit to NATO in Brussels and the G-7 in Sicily, Trump, with both his words and body language,

    in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic norms and human rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.

    obviously what this means is

    “…in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic normsandhuman rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.”

    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the environmentalist international.

    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the Global initiative to enslave the planet to Goldman Sachs by handing the ((oligarch/elite)) the power to tax every breath we take for the greater glory of global equalism. = absolute power of the .001% to dominate the entire planet absolutely (in order to save us all from a planet burned to a crisp by Southern American men’s Ford trucks)

    requiring all NATO nations to treat an attack on one as an attack on all, which our nervous NATO allies had wanted to hear.

    nervous of what exactly?

    I’d really like to know. There isn’t one person on this planet except John McBloodstain or Lindsey Graham (or their quislings in Kyiv) who considers Putin a ‘threat’.

    A U.S.-NATO collision could come here, and soon.

    finally! some good news

    perhaps take over the Boeing contract. That could bring a crisis.

    .. of the Gods of the Copybook Headings

    Europeans bailing out wholesale on the next U.S. war in the Middle East.

    I’m getting chills up my leg

    Trump also seems less committed to the sanctions on Russia for its reannexation of Ukraine and support of pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass than does NATO Europe or Congress.

    Pat knows that Russia did not ‘re-annex’ Ukraine, but simply allowed Crimea to return home. And that “Europe” isn’t in favor of the sanctions, but only Rothschild’s Zio-minions in London, Brussels, Berlin and Paris.

    especially the Germans who are “bad, very bad.”

    Lol

    The European half of Trump’s trip should be taken as a fire-bell-in-the-night warning: Shape up, Europe, or you may find yourselves on your own when it comes to the defense of your continent.

    For we Americans have had about enough.

    what could “the defense of your continent” possibly mean?

    the only invasion being perpetrated against Europa is being done by Muslim and African hoards, often coming because of the wars the ZUSA is fomenting and foisting in Muslim lands. To save Europe from the Zio-quislings destroying her, she hardly needs the help of the ZUSA, unless it’s to tell them that there will be no more contrived wars for fun and profit in the Greater Levant. Or, US sponsored destabilizations on Russia’s doorstep.

    What a convoluted, discombobulated mess things are right now. But this all sounds like excellent developments.

    Too bad Le Pen didn’t win. There’d be genuine reason for hope. As it is, as Buchanan describes it, we’re on the right track, saber rattling at Iran notwithstanding.

    The forces behind Merkel are an abomination, and I just hope Trump feels something deep in his bones about the genocide of the greatest tribe of Europa, from whence (some of) his ancestors hailed.

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    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
    Thumbs up for an excellent, very lucid and straight to the point analysis.
    Yet, the White race genocide in general and that of Europe in particular is a direct factor of the vanishing masculinity of the European whites who are described by Tom Rifat on Renseradio.com as victims of their own docility and deference to power because of their defective Y chromosome. Wether Mr. Rifat's biological analysis is true or not, any keen observer of history would pretty much agree that the White race courage throughout history had been a function of the leadership at hand. Thus under strong leaders, the likes of Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin, White Europeans have proven to be of great courage. Unfortunately, the courage of White Europeans since the end of the crusades has by and large manifested itself by fracticidal warfare. What Europe needs first and foremost is a spiritual revival that would put the traditional values of courage, chivalry and territoriality as the holy grail of manhood. This means the total dismantling of the ZOG spirit that is destroying the social fabric and the cultural heritage of Europe.
    , @Veritatis
    Hi Rurik. Late on the thread but here's my two cents. Buchanan is saying that the possible breakup of military alliances is a good thing. Say, if Europe wants to go into a fratricide war with Russia, they're free to do so., but the U.S. is not going in. That's deterrent, and good for the world undoubtedly. (Whether the fact that "only" the U.S. would fight Iran because Europe would respect their Iran deal is another question.)

    But look at the title: "Breakup of the West?" I believe he is also making a parallel with the breakup of the Roman Empire before its collapse (of the Western part) in 5th century AD. They had lost the capacity to manage "world-wide" (Mediterranean) affairs. Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of 'managed West' (with Russia included) is desirable, don't you think? That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump's true foreign policy challenge. Step one, avoid wars. Step two, civilizational understanding.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    In all frankness, a world where countries such as Russia can make more aggressive moves against the sickening liberalism of Europe is hardly a bad thing for our cause. Its hardly a bad thing for humanity as a whole.
  15. @Medvedev

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said
     
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?
    Currently, only US, UK, Poland, Greece, Estonia spend 2% or more on defense. Gee, why poor, devastated and almost bankrupt Greece can do it and Germany, the powerhouse of Europe, can't?

    {Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany ….}

    Obligated to defend from what?
    Which country or countries are going to invade Germany?
    The answer is “None”.

    NATO may have served a legitimate purpose to counter the Warsaw Pact (…even that is dubious….), but now its only purpose is to create trouble all over the world at the behest of US Globalists.

    NATO is an instrument of US imperial Globalist interests, nothing more.
    NATO can’t or won’t even defend West Europe – core of NATO – from massive unarmed invasion of ‘refugees’, but continues provoking Russia, hoping for a hot war.

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    • Replies: @Medvedev

    Obligated to defend from what?
    Which country or countries are going to invade Germany?
     
    According to NATO doctrine aggression against one state is aggression against all members of NATO, hence USA is obligated to defend in a hypothetical event. Whether there is a threat is irrelevant, Germany and other European members have to spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense.
  16. @Corvinus
    "The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast."

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as "Westerners". Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this "break-up" as you so wholeheartedly endorse.

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”.

    Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.
  17. @Seamus Padraig

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”.
     
    Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?

    “Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?”

    Americans tend to call themselves “Americans”. When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots–My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”.

    If you want to refer to yourself as a “Westerner”, no one is stopping you.

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    • Replies: @KenH

    I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.
     
    I've accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry. Glad you finally found the courage to come out of the closet and confirm everyone's suspicions.

    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don't hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

    , @Wally
    "My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790."

    No surprise there.
    , @Anon
    Jews in Rhode Island? Were these the Sephardim associated with the Touro Synagogue?
    , @Anon
    I often refer to myself as "John". What's your point?
    , @anon
    Hey sport. Many times I claimed that you were Jewish with your cultural Marxist drivel. You always denied it. Thanks for finally revealing the truth about yourself.
    , @Bel Riose
    "Americans tend to call themselves “Americans”. When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots..."

    Sources and citations, please. Aren't your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that "when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?"

    "Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”."

    Support this assertion with appropriate citations and links. Otherwise, admit you are merely guessing and have no idea whether your statement is true or not.
  18. NATO will dissolve. The EU and the US will balkanize. When Empires die they break up.

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    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    NATO will dissolve. The EU and the US will balkanize. When Empires die they break up.

    Hopefully this is true. But I don't know... so much of Western Europe is so far gone, and they are now united by Macron-Merkelism of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs and Muslim-invasion. It is crazy. Mass Invaders are united in their desire to come to the West and enjoy its amenities and hump white women. White women get sex with invaders, especially with black men cuz white women got jungle fever.
    But what do white men get from this? They are becoming wussied and cucked. I suppose they get HIGH on me-huggery. As their minds are infected with globo-PC-virus, they can only feel good and self-righteous when mugging for Diversity. They are like clones of Bono.
    The white male elites love it because their Elysium World is ruled by George Soroses of the world. As a collaborator cuck who shills out to be globalism, YOU will be taken care of.
    As for the ordinary joe white males, there is nothing to gain from Diversity. Their nation is invaded, their women are taken by Negroes, and they get beaten up by foreign mobs, and jobs are gone. So, why would they support this? Because they're the product of public education and pop culture. Education infected their minds with racial self-hatred, 'white guilt', and idolization of Diversity. Since cradle, they were told "you don't have a racial identity or national culture; your nation belongs to the world, and if you say different, you are ... RACIST!!" And pop culture instills worship of the Negro in white minds. White boys identify and worship black rappers and athletes. So, they think it is only fitting that blacks should take white women since blacks are so cool. And of course, white males aren't allowed to wake up to the fact that much of globalism is driven by Jews. Since childhood, they've been mentally colonized to feel that any critical view of Jews is 'antisemitic' and 'nazi'.

    And that is why Manchester is so useless. White parents send their young girls to a concert promoting ACOWW and slut culture. White fathers raise their girls not to be decent women but whores who wanna have black babies. Cuckery has infected even fatherhood. "Take my wife and daughter, please." And even after the bombing, all we get from Manchester whites is 'Diversity, diversity, diversity'. Their message is "Even foreign terror will not stop us from inviting foreign invasion." In the past, Brits said, "Even foreign attack will not weaken our resolve against the foreign threat." Now, Brits say that no amount of foreign violence/terror will stop their resolve to ensure that UK will be taken over by foreigners. For these cucked out fools, the core meaning of UK is to be invaded by the world. Anti-nationalism is the new nationalism of UK. Anti-nationalism is like anti-matter.

    Poland is holding out, but with low birthrates and most of its women being a bunch of lowlife slut skanks into ACOWW, how long will it last? Poland is turning into Ho-land, with massive homo marches and negro-worship. Poles are a bunch of toadies and servile dogs. They are so eager to prove that they are 'good whites'(unlike those asiatic mongoloid subhuman Slavic Russians) that they try to imitate everything French and English. But maybe the Poles, dumb as they are, are finally figuring out that Western Europe is on the path toward being Africanized and Islamized at the behest of globalists.

    https://twitter.com/makowski_m/status/868921847416586240

    Current Europe is a big contradiction. On the one hand, it prides itself on 'western values' as the highest ideals the world has ever seen. But if Western peoples came up with 'western values', doesn't it follow western values can only be sustained by white western people?
    If Europe fills up with peoples who created different cultures and values, then the West will change with infusions of Afro-jungle-lords and Islamic moon-the-sky prayers.
    But then, Westerners might argue that 'western values' are an idea that can be adopted by ANY people since 'race is just a social construct'.

    But if western values are so great and can be adopted by anyone, why did Western people themselves give up on 'western values'. I mean, what is the main culture of EU today? It is rap music, hip hop, Hollywood movies, night clubs, slut culture, Afromania, homomania, tranny celebration and bearded lady, and multi-culturalism that says ALL cultures are equally valuable, indeed even in the West. So, Christianity is no more European than Islam. And classical music is no more Western than Afro-pop and hiphop. This being the case, how can EU expect non-whites to assimilate into 'western values' when white people themselves have given up on their own identity and history and are into decadent homomania, jungle fever and neo-savagery, McDonaldization, Holocaust worship(that says sick Western culture culminated in such crime), and etc? Also, if Europe is facing a demographic crisis, maybe feminism is a bad thing that leads to racial suicide. But never mind that. Current western values says "Let white population decline and be replaced by 'new europeans'." Now, what is the worth of any 'values' that cannot even sustain its own numbers, race, and territory?
    Nothing makes any sense.

    EU prides itself on high achievement and high values. But the highest values now translate into the 'nobility' of allowing Europe to be invaded by millions of Muslims and African savages. It's about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture. It is about promoting Europe as the highest center of world culture and then allowing savage Africans(who've ruined their own nations) colonize white wombs that are used to produce babies with savage black genes who will turn Europe into something like North Africa.

    The rise of white mind did wonders for white power. It allowed whites go gain great power in science, technology, transportation, communication, and production. Whites were able to build powerful military.
    But whites didn't just take pride in higher intellect and science but in higher morality on the basis of Christianity and secular universal values. Initially, this gave whites a sense of pride and confidence. Whites felt spiritually, intellectually, and morally better than people living in backwardness, darkness, or barbarism. Higher white morality meant it was the white man's burden to lord over the lesser races who need guidance and instruction.

    But then, this sense of higher morality began to turn on itself, especially with the rise of Jewish power. Jews raised a mirror in front of the white race, and white race began to see itself as a hypocrite sinner who spouted all this high morality but failed to live up to it. In the long run, white morality turned into a gangrene eating away at whiteness.
    Also, as white people lost faith in God, they needed something new to worship, and it arrived in the form of the Holy Negro. The combination of negro slavery(narrative of suffering and historical crucifixion) and deep bellowing voice made the Negro a neo-christ figure. Just as Jesus was whipped but rose to Heaven, the Negro came to be worshiped as an enslaved people who are godlike because they got that voice that bellows, 'ole man river'. And with mass electronic media beaming the holy negro MLK booming voice into every home, white folks in both US and EU came to worship the Negro as the christ-race.

    And this is how the West will die.
  19. Corvinus, your Jewish ancestors who came to Rhode Island in 1790 might have been congregants of Touro Synagogue if they settled in Newport.

    Speaking of 1790, a Virginian did not refer to himself as an American; rather, he considered himself to be a Virginian. It is my understanding that was the common practice throughout the colonies – even after selling out to the Hamiltonian forces.

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  20. @Corvinus
    "The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast."

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as "Westerners". Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this "break-up" as you so wholeheartedly endorse.

    I usually don’t respond to articulate trolls, but I’m going to make an exception. Since you’re always asking posters on this site what they’re doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?

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    "Since you’re always asking posters on this site what they’re doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?"

    Moderates have been and will always be the key to American politics.

    Ideally, the first order of business is to pressure the leftist and rightist extremists for their insane rhetoric. "Cuck" says the Alt Righter or "Check your privilege" says the antifida? Challenge their assertions, since both push their narrative through "hate facts" and "Fake News".

    Second, read as many mainstream and alternative news sites as possible, sift through their narratives for relevant facts and sensible policies, and generate a course of action.

    Third, demand at the ballot box: 1) no amnesty for illegal immigrants, reform the H1b Visa program, and limit legal immigration, but keep it open to all groups; 2) put "America First" by initiating massive infrastructure programs that enable varying companies a piece of the federal pie, 3) expand domestic exploration of coal, oil, and natural gas AND invest more in renewable energy, and 4) reorganize the Department of Education, Department of Commerce, and Department of Housing and Urban Development into a Department of Social Policies that streamlines their programs and massively cuts costs.

    Racial policies are trickier to deal with given the coarseness of the discussion--the radical right and radical left have dug in their heels with their bullshit "race realism", "cultural appropriation", "cultural marxism", and "save Western Civilization" memes. But, ultimately, are people really going to rise up, start herding up their colored neighbors, and forcibly remove them from house and home while carving up the United States into several ideological and racial enclaves? I'll wait for the movie to come out...
  21. Mass immigration is Territorial Appropriation.

    More crazy stuff.

    https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/05/sjws-portland-restaurant-list/

    I have a better idea. How about prohibiting white people from eating non-white food? After all, that would be digestive appropriation. Whites eat white, and let non-whites eat non-white.
    And no more Chinese food for Jews. Let them eat bagels. And no fried chicken for Japanese in Christmas… and no Christmas for Japanese.

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  22. from the article:

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said, “take our fate into our own hands. … The times in which we could rely fully on others, they are somewhat over.”

    A fear of Russia is what drives her statement, and the historical irony is incredible. (1920′s)

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  23. @WorkingClass
    NATO will dissolve. The EU and the US will balkanize. When Empires die they break up.

    NATO will dissolve. The EU and the US will balkanize. When Empires die they break up.

    Hopefully this is true. But I don’t know… so much of Western Europe is so far gone, and they are now united by Macron-Merkelism of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs and Muslim-invasion. It is crazy. Mass Invaders are united in their desire to come to the West and enjoy its amenities and hump white women. White women get sex with invaders, especially with black men cuz white women got jungle fever.
    But what do white men get from this? They are becoming wussied and cucked. I suppose they get HIGH on me-huggery. As their minds are infected with globo-PC-virus, they can only feel good and self-righteous when mugging for Diversity. They are like clones of Bono.
    The white male elites love it because their Elysium World is ruled by George Soroses of the world. As a collaborator cuck who shills out to be globalism, YOU will be taken care of.
    As for the ordinary joe white males, there is nothing to gain from Diversity. Their nation is invaded, their women are taken by Negroes, and they get beaten up by foreign mobs, and jobs are gone. So, why would they support this? Because they’re the product of public education and pop culture. Education infected their minds with racial self-hatred, ‘white guilt’, and idolization of Diversity. Since cradle, they were told “you don’t have a racial identity or national culture; your nation belongs to the world, and if you say different, you are … RACIST!!” And pop culture instills worship of the Negro in white minds. White boys identify and worship black rappers and athletes. So, they think it is only fitting that blacks should take white women since blacks are so cool. And of course, white males aren’t allowed to wake up to the fact that much of globalism is driven by Jews. Since childhood, they’ve been mentally colonized to feel that any critical view of Jews is ‘antisemitic’ and ‘nazi’.

    And that is why Manchester is so useless. White parents send their young girls to a concert promoting ACOWW and slut culture. White fathers raise their girls not to be decent women but whores who wanna have black babies. Cuckery has infected even fatherhood. “Take my wife and daughter, please.” And even after the bombing, all we get from Manchester whites is ‘Diversity, diversity, diversity’. Their message is “Even foreign terror will not stop us from inviting foreign invasion.” In the past, Brits said, “Even foreign attack will not weaken our resolve against the foreign threat.” Now, Brits say that no amount of foreign violence/terror will stop their resolve to ensure that UK will be taken over by foreigners. For these cucked out fools, the core meaning of UK is to be invaded by the world. Anti-nationalism is the new nationalism of UK. Anti-nationalism is like anti-matter.

    Poland is holding out, but with low birthrates and most of its women being a bunch of lowlife slut skanks into ACOWW, how long will it last? Poland is turning into Ho-land, with massive homo marches and negro-worship. Poles are a bunch of toadies and servile dogs. They are so eager to prove that they are ‘good whites’(unlike those asiatic mongoloid subhuman Slavic Russians) that they try to imitate everything French and English. But maybe the Poles, dumb as they are, are finally figuring out that Western Europe is on the path toward being Africanized and Islamized at the behest of globalists.

    Current Europe is a big contradiction. On the one hand, it prides itself on ‘western values’ as the highest ideals the world has ever seen. But if Western peoples came up with ‘western values’, doesn’t it follow western values can only be sustained by white western people?
    If Europe fills up with peoples who created different cultures and values, then the West will change with infusions of Afro-jungle-lords and Islamic moon-the-sky prayers.
    But then, Westerners might argue that ‘western values’ are an idea that can be adopted by ANY people since ‘race is just a social construct’.

    But if western values are so great and can be adopted by anyone, why did Western people themselves give up on ‘western values’. I mean, what is the main culture of EU today? It is rap music, hip hop, Hollywood movies, night clubs, slut culture, Afromania, homomania, tranny celebration and bearded lady, and multi-culturalism that says ALL cultures are equally valuable, indeed even in the West. So, Christianity is no more European than Islam. And classical music is no more Western than Afro-pop and hiphop. This being the case, how can EU expect non-whites to assimilate into ‘western values’ when white people themselves have given up on their own identity and history and are into decadent homomania, jungle fever and neo-savagery, McDonaldization, Holocaust worship(that says sick Western culture culminated in such crime), and etc? Also, if Europe is facing a demographic crisis, maybe feminism is a bad thing that leads to racial suicide. But never mind that. Current western values says “Let white population decline and be replaced by ‘new europeans’.” Now, what is the worth of any ‘values’ that cannot even sustain its own numbers, race, and territory?
    Nothing makes any sense.

    EU prides itself on high achievement and high values. But the highest values now translate into the ‘nobility’ of allowing Europe to be invaded by millions of Muslims and African savages. It’s about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture. It is about promoting Europe as the highest center of world culture and then allowing savage Africans(who’ve ruined their own nations) colonize white wombs that are used to produce babies with savage black genes who will turn Europe into something like North Africa.

    The rise of white mind did wonders for white power. It allowed whites go gain great power in science, technology, transportation, communication, and production. Whites were able to build powerful military.
    But whites didn’t just take pride in higher intellect and science but in higher morality on the basis of Christianity and secular universal values. Initially, this gave whites a sense of pride and confidence. Whites felt spiritually, intellectually, and morally better than people living in backwardness, darkness, or barbarism. Higher white morality meant it was the white man’s burden to lord over the lesser races who need guidance and instruction.

    But then, this sense of higher morality began to turn on itself, especially with the rise of Jewish power. Jews raised a mirror in front of the white race, and white race began to see itself as a hypocrite sinner who spouted all this high morality but failed to live up to it. In the long run, white morality turned into a gangrene eating away at whiteness.
    Also, as white people lost faith in God, they needed something new to worship, and it arrived in the form of the Holy Negro. The combination of negro slavery(narrative of suffering and historical crucifixion) and deep bellowing voice made the Negro a neo-christ figure. Just as Jesus was whipped but rose to Heaven, the Negro came to be worshiped as an enslaved people who are godlike because they got that voice that bellows, ‘ole man river’. And with mass electronic media beaming the holy negro MLK booming voice into every home, white folks in both US and EU came to worship the Negro as the christ-race.

    And this is how the West will die.

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    It’s about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture.
     
    Pfffshwahahahaha! Those mix like oil and water - I'm sure an official gay pride parade will break out in Karachi or Algiers any time now.

    Peace.
  24. Western Europe is turning itself over to Islam. They broke up with us.

    How do we get the nuclear weapons out of France before the takeover, before the nukes can be shot at us kaffirs? That will be the only question.

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  25. @Priss Factor
    NATO will dissolve. The EU and the US will balkanize. When Empires die they break up.

    Hopefully this is true. But I don't know... so much of Western Europe is so far gone, and they are now united by Macron-Merkelism of ACOWW or Afro-Colonization of White Wombs and Muslim-invasion. It is crazy. Mass Invaders are united in their desire to come to the West and enjoy its amenities and hump white women. White women get sex with invaders, especially with black men cuz white women got jungle fever.
    But what do white men get from this? They are becoming wussied and cucked. I suppose they get HIGH on me-huggery. As their minds are infected with globo-PC-virus, they can only feel good and self-righteous when mugging for Diversity. They are like clones of Bono.
    The white male elites love it because their Elysium World is ruled by George Soroses of the world. As a collaborator cuck who shills out to be globalism, YOU will be taken care of.
    As for the ordinary joe white males, there is nothing to gain from Diversity. Their nation is invaded, their women are taken by Negroes, and they get beaten up by foreign mobs, and jobs are gone. So, why would they support this? Because they're the product of public education and pop culture. Education infected their minds with racial self-hatred, 'white guilt', and idolization of Diversity. Since cradle, they were told "you don't have a racial identity or national culture; your nation belongs to the world, and if you say different, you are ... RACIST!!" And pop culture instills worship of the Negro in white minds. White boys identify and worship black rappers and athletes. So, they think it is only fitting that blacks should take white women since blacks are so cool. And of course, white males aren't allowed to wake up to the fact that much of globalism is driven by Jews. Since childhood, they've been mentally colonized to feel that any critical view of Jews is 'antisemitic' and 'nazi'.

    And that is why Manchester is so useless. White parents send their young girls to a concert promoting ACOWW and slut culture. White fathers raise their girls not to be decent women but whores who wanna have black babies. Cuckery has infected even fatherhood. "Take my wife and daughter, please." And even after the bombing, all we get from Manchester whites is 'Diversity, diversity, diversity'. Their message is "Even foreign terror will not stop us from inviting foreign invasion." In the past, Brits said, "Even foreign attack will not weaken our resolve against the foreign threat." Now, Brits say that no amount of foreign violence/terror will stop their resolve to ensure that UK will be taken over by foreigners. For these cucked out fools, the core meaning of UK is to be invaded by the world. Anti-nationalism is the new nationalism of UK. Anti-nationalism is like anti-matter.

    Poland is holding out, but with low birthrates and most of its women being a bunch of lowlife slut skanks into ACOWW, how long will it last? Poland is turning into Ho-land, with massive homo marches and negro-worship. Poles are a bunch of toadies and servile dogs. They are so eager to prove that they are 'good whites'(unlike those asiatic mongoloid subhuman Slavic Russians) that they try to imitate everything French and English. But maybe the Poles, dumb as they are, are finally figuring out that Western Europe is on the path toward being Africanized and Islamized at the behest of globalists.

    https://twitter.com/makowski_m/status/868921847416586240

    Current Europe is a big contradiction. On the one hand, it prides itself on 'western values' as the highest ideals the world has ever seen. But if Western peoples came up with 'western values', doesn't it follow western values can only be sustained by white western people?
    If Europe fills up with peoples who created different cultures and values, then the West will change with infusions of Afro-jungle-lords and Islamic moon-the-sky prayers.
    But then, Westerners might argue that 'western values' are an idea that can be adopted by ANY people since 'race is just a social construct'.

    But if western values are so great and can be adopted by anyone, why did Western people themselves give up on 'western values'. I mean, what is the main culture of EU today? It is rap music, hip hop, Hollywood movies, night clubs, slut culture, Afromania, homomania, tranny celebration and bearded lady, and multi-culturalism that says ALL cultures are equally valuable, indeed even in the West. So, Christianity is no more European than Islam. And classical music is no more Western than Afro-pop and hiphop. This being the case, how can EU expect non-whites to assimilate into 'western values' when white people themselves have given up on their own identity and history and are into decadent homomania, jungle fever and neo-savagery, McDonaldization, Holocaust worship(that says sick Western culture culminated in such crime), and etc? Also, if Europe is facing a demographic crisis, maybe feminism is a bad thing that leads to racial suicide. But never mind that. Current western values says "Let white population decline and be replaced by 'new europeans'." Now, what is the worth of any 'values' that cannot even sustain its own numbers, race, and territory?
    Nothing makes any sense.

    EU prides itself on high achievement and high values. But the highest values now translate into the 'nobility' of allowing Europe to be invaded by millions of Muslims and African savages. It's about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture. It is about promoting Europe as the highest center of world culture and then allowing savage Africans(who've ruined their own nations) colonize white wombs that are used to produce babies with savage black genes who will turn Europe into something like North Africa.

    The rise of white mind did wonders for white power. It allowed whites go gain great power in science, technology, transportation, communication, and production. Whites were able to build powerful military.
    But whites didn't just take pride in higher intellect and science but in higher morality on the basis of Christianity and secular universal values. Initially, this gave whites a sense of pride and confidence. Whites felt spiritually, intellectually, and morally better than people living in backwardness, darkness, or barbarism. Higher white morality meant it was the white man's burden to lord over the lesser races who need guidance and instruction.

    But then, this sense of higher morality began to turn on itself, especially with the rise of Jewish power. Jews raised a mirror in front of the white race, and white race began to see itself as a hypocrite sinner who spouted all this high morality but failed to live up to it. In the long run, white morality turned into a gangrene eating away at whiteness.
    Also, as white people lost faith in God, they needed something new to worship, and it arrived in the form of the Holy Negro. The combination of negro slavery(narrative of suffering and historical crucifixion) and deep bellowing voice made the Negro a neo-christ figure. Just as Jesus was whipped but rose to Heaven, the Negro came to be worshiped as an enslaved people who are godlike because they got that voice that bellows, 'ole man river'. And with mass electronic media beaming the holy negro MLK booming voice into every home, white folks in both US and EU came to worship the Negro as the christ-race.

    And this is how the West will die.

    It’s about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture.

    Pfffshwahahahaha! Those mix like oil and water – I’m sure an official gay pride parade will break out in Karachi or Algiers any time now.

    Peace.

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    They sometimes find common ground, as see this bizarre tale from Canada:
    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024184.html#jan27
    , @Joe Levantine
    Indeed mixing oil and water is the perfect recipe for a dysfunctional society that will stay subdued by the ZOG and their Soroses agents. Already, Blacks and Whites living together has proven to be as impossible as mixing gays and Muslims. Just remember the Michael Brown riots in Ferguson. Incompatible diversity is the Predatory Ruling Class's high premium insurance against a backlash from the downtrodden masses.
  26. @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.

    I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry. Glad you finally found the courage to come out of the closet and confirm everyone’s suspicions.

    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

    When the ADL/SPLC send out their hasbara, they are not sending their best if Corvinus is any indication. I hope they pay him well - it wastes their money and keeps Corvinus off the streets.
    , @Corvinus
    "I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry."

    You are so predictable. I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    "BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?"

    All your lies are belong to us.
  27. @Diversity Heretic
    I usually don't respond to articulate trolls, but I'm going to make an exception. Since you're always asking posters on this site what they're doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?

    “Since you’re always asking posters on this site what they’re doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?”

    Moderates have been and will always be the key to American politics.

    Ideally, the first order of business is to pressure the leftist and rightist extremists for their insane rhetoric. “Cuck” says the Alt Righter or “Check your privilege” says the antifida? Challenge their assertions, since both push their narrative through “hate facts” and “Fake News”.

    Second, read as many mainstream and alternative news sites as possible, sift through their narratives for relevant facts and sensible policies, and generate a course of action.

    Third, demand at the ballot box: 1) no amnesty for illegal immigrants, reform the H1b Visa program, and limit legal immigration, but keep it open to all groups; 2) put “America First” by initiating massive infrastructure programs that enable varying companies a piece of the federal pie, 3) expand domestic exploration of coal, oil, and natural gas AND invest more in renewable energy, and 4) reorganize the Department of Education, Department of Commerce, and Department of Housing and Urban Development into a Department of Social Policies that streamlines their programs and massively cuts costs.

    Racial policies are trickier to deal with given the coarseness of the discussion–the radical right and radical left have dug in their heels with their bullshit “race realism”, “cultural appropriation”, “cultural marxism”, and “save Western Civilization” memes. But, ultimately, are people really going to rise up, start herding up their colored neighbors, and forcibly remove them from house and home while carving up the United States into several ideological and racial enclaves? I’ll wait for the movie to come out…

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Why assume that "colored" people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States.
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    @Talha

    It’s about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture.
     
    Pfffshwahahahaha! Those mix like oil and water - I'm sure an official gay pride parade will break out in Karachi or Algiers any time now.

    Peace.

    They sometimes find common ground, as see this bizarre tale from Canada:

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024184.html#jan27

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  29. @German_reader

    If she stays in power, there won’t be a Germany.
     
    Change that to "Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won't be a Germany".
    Which won't happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a "leader" of the west is ridiculous.

    Change that to “Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won’t be a Germany”. Which won’t happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a “leader” of the west is ridiculous.

    Yes, that is more accurate. I was tired when I wrote what I did.

    I still hold out hope for Germany, but it is more a long term thing, if/when other white countries get back their mojo, Germans should fall in line with the zeitgeist. At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years’ war.

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    Not much time left to recover their mojo, demographically speaking. At all.
    , @German_reader

    At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years’ war.
     
    It should be much less relevant even today than it was 20 or 30 years ago...the WW2 generation is mostly dead. Hitler's youngest voters must have been born in 1912/1913...there aren't many of them around anymore. But Nazism seems to be the kind of past that is never allowed to become past. German self-flagellation gets ever more intense, it's become an ingrained habit. I don't see it ending soon.
  30. @KenH

    I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.
     
    I've accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry. Glad you finally found the courage to come out of the closet and confirm everyone's suspicions.

    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don't hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

    When the ADL/SPLC send out their hasbara, they are not sending their best if Corvinus is any indication. I hope they pay him well – it wastes their money and keeps Corvinus off the streets.

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  31. @NickG

    In a Munich beer hall Sunday, Angela Merkel confirmed it.

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said, “take our fate into our own hands.
     
    Ein volk, ein 4th reich, ein führer!

    You walked right into this:

    There were the ‘Nazis’ with the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the mythological ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

    The ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ are laughable, scientifically impossible frauds.
    see the ‘holocaust’ scam debunked here:

    http://codoh.com

    No name calling, level playing field debate here:

    http://forum.codoh.com

    “Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish “holocaust” and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the “survivors”? Because it “dishonors the dead”? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble.”
    - Gerard Menuhin / Revisionist Jew, son of famous violinist

    Why have supremacist Jews have been marketing the ’6,000,000′ lie since at least 1869?

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  32. @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    “My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.”

    No surprise there.

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  33. @Corvinus
    "Since you’re always asking posters on this site what they’re doing to implement their agenda, what constitutes your due diligence to prevent the break up?"

    Moderates have been and will always be the key to American politics.

    Ideally, the first order of business is to pressure the leftist and rightist extremists for their insane rhetoric. "Cuck" says the Alt Righter or "Check your privilege" says the antifida? Challenge their assertions, since both push their narrative through "hate facts" and "Fake News".

    Second, read as many mainstream and alternative news sites as possible, sift through their narratives for relevant facts and sensible policies, and generate a course of action.

    Third, demand at the ballot box: 1) no amnesty for illegal immigrants, reform the H1b Visa program, and limit legal immigration, but keep it open to all groups; 2) put "America First" by initiating massive infrastructure programs that enable varying companies a piece of the federal pie, 3) expand domestic exploration of coal, oil, and natural gas AND invest more in renewable energy, and 4) reorganize the Department of Education, Department of Commerce, and Department of Housing and Urban Development into a Department of Social Policies that streamlines their programs and massively cuts costs.

    Racial policies are trickier to deal with given the coarseness of the discussion--the radical right and radical left have dug in their heels with their bullshit "race realism", "cultural appropriation", "cultural marxism", and "save Western Civilization" memes. But, ultimately, are people really going to rise up, start herding up their colored neighbors, and forcibly remove them from house and home while carving up the United States into several ideological and racial enclaves? I'll wait for the movie to come out...

    Why assume that “colored” people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Why assume that “colored” people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States."

    Because you and your ilk have this fantasy that whites will suddenly become a collective Hulk and start stacking up "bad whites" and "vibrants" like cordwood. It is other than likely that either scenario will materialize. Besides, you will be sitting on the sidelines if and when this "race war" occurs.
  34. @Anonym
    Change that to “Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won’t be a Germany". Which won’t happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a “leader” of the west is ridiculous.

    Yes, that is more accurate. I was tired when I wrote what I did.

    I still hold out hope for Germany, but it is more a long term thing, if/when other white countries get back their mojo, Germans should fall in line with the zeitgeist. At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years' war.

    Not much time left to recover their mojo, demographically speaking. At all.

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    Not much time left to recover their mojo, demographically speaking. At all.

    Due to assortive mating, probably not as doomed as one would at first think, but they are definitely ruining one of the great ethnicities on earth. If there is justice in this world it would involve a mob exacting it on her AFAIAC.
  35. @RadicalCenter
    Not much time left to recover their mojo, demographically speaking. At all.

    Not much time left to recover their mojo, demographically speaking. At all.

    Due to assortive mating, probably not as doomed as one would at first think, but they are definitely ruining one of the great ethnicities on earth. If there is justice in this world it would involve a mob exacting it on her AFAIAC.

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  36. @KenH

    I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.
     
    I've accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry. Glad you finally found the courage to come out of the closet and confirm everyone's suspicions.

    BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don't hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?

    “I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry.”

    You are so predictable. I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I’m Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    “BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?”

    All your lies are belong to us.

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    All your lies are belong to us.
     
    LOOOOL!!! Oh the memories from that meme!

    Peace.
    , @Anon

    All your lies are belong to us.
     
    Quite accurate, but I believe unintentionally so ...
    , @KenH

    I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I’m Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.
     
    Oh, so claim you have Jewish lineage then pass it off as a practical joke to trick those evil and predictable Jew haters. A real genius move. Now your cover story is that you're a European mutt. I'm sold.

    All your lies are belong to us.
     
    Ouch. You're a real comeback artist, Corvy.
  37. @RadicalCenter
    Why assume that "colored" people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States.

    “Why assume that “colored” people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States.”

    Because you and your ilk have this fantasy that whites will suddenly become a collective Hulk and start stacking up “bad whites” and “vibrants” like cordwood. It is other than likely that either scenario will materialize. Besides, you will be sitting on the sidelines if and when this “race war” occurs.

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    • Agree: rw95
    • Replies: @Wally
    Indeed, sit on the sidelines and let the browns & blacks fight among themselves and do the work for us.
    Good idea.
  38. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    Jews in Rhode Island? Were these the Sephardim associated with the Touro Synagogue?

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    @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    I often refer to myself as “John”. What’s your point?

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  40. @Corvinus
    "I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry."

    You are so predictable. I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    "BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?"

    All your lies are belong to us.

    All your lies are belong to us.

    LOOOOL!!! Oh the memories from that meme!

    Peace.

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    @Corvinus
    "I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry."

    You are so predictable. I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    "BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?"

    All your lies are belong to us.

    All your lies are belong to us.

    Quite accurate, but I believe unintentionally so …

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  42. @Corvinus
    "Why assume that “colored” people will be rounded up and removed? It will very likely be the nonwhites majority rounding up whites for removal and worse, in much of California, Texas, and elsewhere in the increasingly DisUnited States."

    Because you and your ilk have this fantasy that whites will suddenly become a collective Hulk and start stacking up "bad whites" and "vibrants" like cordwood. It is other than likely that either scenario will materialize. Besides, you will be sitting on the sidelines if and when this "race war" occurs.

    Indeed, sit on the sidelines and let the browns & blacks fight among themselves and do the work for us.
    Good idea.

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    "Indeed, sit on the sidelines and let the browns & blacks fight among themselves and do the work for us. Good idea."

    Actually, in this impending race war, it will be whites vs. non-whites, not non-whites fighting each other. Great to know you admit you do not have the stones to be on the front lines. You are just like those boys who refused to serve their nation in Vietnam. Traitor!
  43. @Corvinus
    "For instance, Saudi Arabia’s policy on women is not great, but it’s still much preferable to any kind of feminism."

    Perhaps it is preferable to YOU, but the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia, while deplorable, is in effect none of our business if one is consistent with opposing the "invade the world, invite the world" lifestyle. Apparently, Trump has no issue with the Saudi's approach with their womenfolk or with their knack of supporting terrorism. Why not benefit his cronies in the military industrial complex by giving them billions of dollars in weapons? Not that some of those arms will find their way into the hands of Jihadists.

    ‘Trump gave the Saudis billions of dollars in weapons’?

    Wrong. The Saudis at least pay for them.

    It’s your preferred “shitty little country” that gets billions in free armaments EVERY YEAR … at US taxpayers expense.

    It’s noted that you also support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while you advocate for massive low IQ, criminal 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Wrong. The Saudis at least pay for them."

    Well, then, it's settled. As long as our military receives compensation from a nation known for spreading Jihad, it's no big deal in the end.

    "It’s noted that you also support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while you advocate for massive low IQ, criminal 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe."

    Strawman. I did not take this position.
  44. @Anonym
    Change that to “Unless there is a drastic shift to the right with mass deportations of the Merkel invaders, there won’t be a Germany". Which won’t happen. Germany is finished, so all this delusional talk about Germany becoming a “leader” of the west is ridiculous.

    Yes, that is more accurate. I was tired when I wrote what I did.

    I still hold out hope for Germany, but it is more a long term thing, if/when other white countries get back their mojo, Germans should fall in line with the zeitgeist. At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years' war.

    At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years’ war.

    It should be much less relevant even today than it was 20 or 30 years ago…the WW2 generation is mostly dead. Hitler’s youngest voters must have been born in 1912/1913…there aren’t many of them around anymore. But Nazism seems to be the kind of past that is never allowed to become past. German self-flagellation gets ever more intense, it’s become an ingrained habit. I don’t see it ending soon.

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    Hey G_R,

    You're not giving your folk enough credit - I believe they'll rise again. If Germans (as a people) were a investment - I'd invest long-term on them any day of the week. Spread hope - not despair:

    A PARABLE

    I picked a rustic nosegay lately,
    And bore it homewards, musing greatly;
    When, heated by my hand, I found
    The heads all drooping tow’rd the ground.
    I plac’d them in a well-cool’d glass,
    And what a wonder came to pass
    The heads soon raised themselves once more.
    The stalks were blooming as before,
    And all were in as good a case
    As when they left their native place.
    —-Goethe

    Peace.
  45. @German_reader

    At some point, the endless sackcloth and ashes bit about WWII will be as relevant as the 30 years’ war.
     
    It should be much less relevant even today than it was 20 or 30 years ago...the WW2 generation is mostly dead. Hitler's youngest voters must have been born in 1912/1913...there aren't many of them around anymore. But Nazism seems to be the kind of past that is never allowed to become past. German self-flagellation gets ever more intense, it's become an ingrained habit. I don't see it ending soon.

    Hey G_R,

    You’re not giving your folk enough credit – I believe they’ll rise again. If Germans (as a people) were a investment – I’d invest long-term on them any day of the week. Spread hope – not despair:

    A PARABLE

    I picked a rustic nosegay lately,
    And bore it homewards, musing greatly;
    When, heated by my hand, I found
    The heads all drooping tow’rd the ground.
    I plac’d them in a well-cool’d glass,
    And what a wonder came to pass
    The heads soon raised themselves once more.
    The stalks were blooming as before,
    And all were in as good a case
    As when they left their native place.
    —-Goethe

    Peace.

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  46. @Rurik

    During his visit to NATO in Brussels and the G-7 in Sicily, Trump, with both his words and body language,
     
    https://i.imgur.com/B3vj7fr.mp4

    in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic norms and human rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.
     
    obviously what this means is

    "...in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for "democratic norms" and "human rights" will now take a back seat to strategic interests."

    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the environmentalist international.
     
    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the Global initiative to enslave the planet to Goldman Sachs by handing the ((oligarch/elite)) the power to tax every breath we take for the greater glory of global equalism. = absolute power of the .001% to dominate the entire planet absolutely (in order to save us all from a planet burned to a crisp by Southern American men's Ford trucks)

    requiring all NATO nations to treat an attack on one as an attack on all, which our nervous NATO allies had wanted to hear.
     
    nervous of what exactly?

    I'd really like to know. There isn't one person on this planet except John McBloodstain or Lindsey Graham (or their quislings in Kyiv) who considers Putin a 'threat'.

    A U.S.-NATO collision could come here, and soon.
     
    finally! some good news

    perhaps take over the Boeing contract. That could bring a crisis.
     
    .. of the Gods of the Copybook Headings

    Europeans bailing out wholesale on the next U.S. war in the Middle East.
     
    I'm getting chills up my leg

    Trump also seems less committed to the sanctions on Russia for its reannexation of Ukraine and support of pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass than does NATO Europe or Congress.
     
    Pat knows that Russia did not 're-annex' Ukraine, but simply allowed Crimea to return home. And that "Europe" isn't in favor of the sanctions, but only Rothschild's Zio-minions in London, Brussels, Berlin and Paris.


    especially the Germans who are “bad, very bad.”
     
    Lol

    The European half of Trump’s trip should be taken as a fire-bell-in-the-night warning: Shape up, Europe, or you may find yourselves on your own when it comes to the defense of your continent.

    For we Americans have had about enough.

     

    what could "the defense of your continent" possibly mean?

    the only invasion being perpetrated against Europa is being done by Muslim and African hoards, often coming because of the wars the ZUSA is fomenting and foisting in Muslim lands. To save Europe from the Zio-quislings destroying her, she hardly needs the help of the ZUSA, unless it's to tell them that there will be no more contrived wars for fun and profit in the Greater Levant. Or, US sponsored destabilizations on Russia's doorstep.

    What a convoluted, discombobulated mess things are right now. But this all sounds like excellent developments.

    Too bad Le Pen didn't win. There'd be genuine reason for hope. As it is, as Buchanan describes it, we're on the right track, saber rattling at Iran notwithstanding.

    The forces behind Merkel are an abomination, and I just hope Trump feels something deep in his bones about the genocide of the greatest tribe of Europa, from whence (some of) his ancestors hailed.

    Thumbs up for an excellent, very lucid and straight to the point analysis.
    Yet, the White race genocide in general and that of Europe in particular is a direct factor of the vanishing masculinity of the European whites who are described by Tom Rifat on Renseradio.com as victims of their own docility and deference to power because of their defective Y chromosome. Wether Mr. Rifat’s biological analysis is true or not, any keen observer of history would pretty much agree that the White race courage throughout history had been a function of the leadership at hand. Thus under strong leaders, the likes of Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin, White Europeans have proven to be of great courage. Unfortunately, the courage of White Europeans since the end of the crusades has by and large manifested itself by fracticidal warfare. What Europe needs first and foremost is a spiritual revival that would put the traditional values of courage, chivalry and territoriality as the holy grail of manhood. This means the total dismantling of the ZOG spirit that is destroying the social fabric and the cultural heritage of Europe.

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    thanks Joe,

    vanishing masculinity of the European whites
     
    lots of factors at play here. The white race achieved an unprecedented level of material and technological success. Their advances in medicine and the sciences allowed them to keep defectives alive when they would have otherwise perished under normal circumstances. The weak and the shiftless and the moronic were able not just to endure, but to breed more of the same. John McCain and Lindsey Graham voters are the children of genetic defectives, who by all rights, should have died shortly after birth.

    Also consider what the world wars did to the flower of Europa. The millions of young men of Germany, Russia, Poland, England and so many others were slaughtered in a banker contrived fratricidal bloodfest. 'Such a deal!' This is exactly what they like to do again with a contrived conflict between Russia and Eastern Europe. There are a lot of strong, intelligent, capable young men in these countries whose genes seem too robust to be susceptible to the soul-rot being pumped into Western Europe, Scandinavia and N. America.

    That's another thing. The people of Scandanavia have been protected by the ravages of the banksters and their orcs for hundreds if not thousands of years. When the Ottomans were relentlessly and violently attempting to encroach on Europe/Christendom, they had to get though the Balkans first, and then though Germany/Austria. And so Scandinavia was isolated and protected and had no experience with orcs. So when the cultural death dealers came knocking, and used the power of the Fed to purchase Scandinavia's cultural institutions they were able to simply tell Sweden that orcs were people. And not just people, but special, and persecuted people whom the Swedes owed a debt.

    It was a double whammy for Sweden. They were dominated from the top by the Fiend, and now they're dominated on the streets by orcs, that they have zero cultural or genetic experience dealing with.

    Then there is of course the non-stop, 27/7 injection of spiritual sewage from the ((controlled)) msm.

    lots and lots of causes here, and I'd like to flesh them out more, but I have to go.

    anyways, unless we're able to identify the problems, we'll never be able to offer any solutions.

    cheers
  47. @Talha

    It’s about pushing homo decadence and Muslim culture.
     
    Pfffshwahahahaha! Those mix like oil and water - I'm sure an official gay pride parade will break out in Karachi or Algiers any time now.

    Peace.

    Indeed mixing oil and water is the perfect recipe for a dysfunctional society that will stay subdued by the ZOG and their Soroses agents. Already, Blacks and Whites living together has proven to be as impossible as mixing gays and Muslims. Just remember the Michael Brown riots in Ferguson. Incompatible diversity is the Predatory Ruling Class’s high premium insurance against a backlash from the downtrodden masses.

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  48. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “Europe must look out for itself…take its fate into its own hands”…

    And why is this a bad thing?

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    @Medvedev

    Europe must begin to look out for itself, she said
     
    How about starting to pay your dues and spend 2% of GDP on defense? Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany and other NATO countries not obligated to pay their dues and spend 2% of their GDP?
    Currently, only US, UK, Poland, Greece, Estonia spend 2% or more on defense. Gee, why poor, devastated and almost bankrupt Greece can do it and Germany, the powerhouse of Europe, can't?

    How exactly is America “defending” Germany? What country is threatening to attack Germany? Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands all border Germany. Not one of these countries are even remotely any conceivable threat to Germany. Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are “defending” the Germans from who? Even the British are dissolving the BAOR (British army on the Rhine) and bringing all their troops home, a mere thirty years after the Berlin wall fell…..

    Those troops are stationed in Germany to maintain the American empire, not to “defend” Germany.

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    • Replies: @German_reader

    Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are “defending” the Germans from who?
     
    They're defending us from ourselves so we're not in dager of suffering a relapse into Nazism :-)
    , @European-American
    > How exactly is America “defending” Germany?
    > What country is threatening to attack Germany?

    The obvious and thousands-of-year-old answer to your question is:

    defending Germany and Europe against threats from the East, such as Russia, the Islamic world, and China.

    Whether the US should be almost singlehandedly responsible for doing that is another question, to which I would happily say no.

  50. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    Hey sport. Many times I claimed that you were Jewish with your cultural Marxist drivel. You always denied it. Thanks for finally revealing the truth about yourself.

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  51. @anon
    How exactly is America "defending" Germany? What country is threatening to attack Germany? Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands all border Germany. Not one of these countries are even remotely any conceivable threat to Germany. Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are "defending" the Germans from who? Even the British are dissolving the BAOR (British army on the Rhine) and bringing all their troops home, a mere thirty years after the Berlin wall fell.....

    Those troops are stationed in Germany to maintain the American empire, not to "defend" Germany.

    Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are “defending” the Germans from who?

    They’re defending us from ourselves so we’re not in dager of suffering a relapse into Nazism :-)

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  52. For we Americans have had about enough.

    Pat, you remember a United States that doesn’t exist.

    “We” Americans are no longer the people from your youth. “Americans” are rapidly becoming non-European. Why should a Mexican-American or black American or Asian American care a wit about Europe outside of trade. It’s not their people.

    When Americans were 85% European blood, there was some reason to care about Europe. Europe was our ancestral home. The people living there were our blood. That is rapidly changing as America (and Europe) become less and less white.

    Outside of the deluded “We are world” types (that’s you Corvinus so please don’t respond), people care about their family and really take very little interest in what happens to outsiders.

    As the U.S. become less and less European and Europe becomes less and less European, the United States will care less and less about Europe. That is as it should be.

    Our near future is some depressing mix of Brazil, Mexico, California and Texas. Pockets of wealth surrounded by poverty and violence. No big race war. No white militias. Such a country will be hard pressed to keep the lights on, much less care about Europe. Brazil and Mexico despite being fairly large in terms of population and even GDP aren’t big players on the world scene. That’s where we’re headed. Make sure that you have enough money to live in one of those nice pockets and start forming associations with those who are share your ancestry because everyone else already does the same.

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    Good comment. Even when the (white) United States was overwhelmingly European origin, some Americans had the good sense to warn their countrymen against "entangling alliances."
    , @Corvinus
    "“We” Americans are no longer the people from your youth. “Americans” are rapidly becoming non-European."

    Non-European, but still American. We are a mutt nation.

    "Why should a Mexican-American or black American or Asian American care a wit about Europe outside of trade. It’s not their people."

    You seem to forget that the same sentiments were shared by nativists in the late 1800's/early 1900's about Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, and Slavic-Americans. These groups were considered other than desirable and incapable of assimilating.

    "When Americans were 85% European blood, there was some reason to care about Europe. Europe was our ancestral home. The people living there were our blood. That is rapidly changing as America (and Europe) become less and less white."

    Indeed, first generation immigrants from Europe still had that strong bond. Their children and grandchildren? Not so much, for their loyalty was tied to the United States.

    "Outside of the deluded “We are world” types (that’s you Corvinus so please don’t respond), people care about their family and really take very little interest in what happens to outsiders."

    Those "deluded we are the world types" are tens of millions of white Americans like myself who care not only about their kin, but also their community. Hate facts, to be sure.

    "Our near future is some depressing mix of Brazil, Mexico, California and Texas."

    Perhaps, perhaps not.

    "Pockets of wealth surrounded by poverty and violence."

    Just like before.

    "No big race war. No white militias."

    What? Really? Are you serious?

    "Make sure that you have enough money to live in one of those nice pockets and start forming associations with those who are share your ancestry because everyone else already does the same."

    If that is the route you prefer to take, go for it.
  53. @anon
    Hey sport. Many times I claimed that you were Jewish with your cultural Marxist drivel. You always denied it. Thanks for finally revealing the truth about yourself.

    You people are so easily triggered.

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    Just glad to know your ethnicity, that's all. It helps to put things in context.
  54. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @rw95
    You people are so easily triggered.

    Just glad to know your ethnicity, that’s all. It helps to put things in context.

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    You're going to think I'm Jewish no matter what I say, so does it really matter?

    Point proven, by the way.
  55. @Corvinus
    "The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast."

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as "Westerners". Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this "break-up" as you so wholeheartedly endorse.

    > Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as “Westerners”

    It’s a useful moniker in East Asia. Western food, clothing, culture.

    Western foreigners, as opposed to other kinds of foreigners, from other East Asian countries, other Asia, Africa, …

    I expect Australians, Russians, would often also be lumped under “Westerner”.

    From this perspective, it could be argued Middle Easterners are also Westerners.

    And Indians? They are certainly due West of China…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_West

    The French often use “occidentaux” to mean US and Europeans.

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  56. @anon
    How exactly is America "defending" Germany? What country is threatening to attack Germany? Denmark, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Switzerland, France, Luxembourg, Belgium and the Netherlands all border Germany. Not one of these countries are even remotely any conceivable threat to Germany. Those tens of thousands of US troops in Germany are "defending" the Germans from who? Even the British are dissolving the BAOR (British army on the Rhine) and bringing all their troops home, a mere thirty years after the Berlin wall fell.....

    Those troops are stationed in Germany to maintain the American empire, not to "defend" Germany.

    > How exactly is America “defending” Germany?
    > What country is threatening to attack Germany?

    The obvious and thousands-of-year-old answer to your question is:

    defending Germany and Europe against threats from the East, such as Russia, the Islamic world, and China.

    Whether the US should be almost singlehandedly responsible for doing that is another question, to which I would happily say no.

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    You need to have your head examined. When was the last time Russia invaded Germany? For the Islamic world - they are easy to handle if only the Germans would smarten up. Germany is under threat from China? Really? And for all this imaginary threats, would US really be the best country that Germany can rely on for defense? How can you defend someone who is better than you militarily? Historically, Germany always had better armed forces than US. Even today. US only has better navy and air force, and you can't win wars by those alone. At least you can't win wars that matter. The greatest wars are ALWAYS fought on land, which is where US sucks.
  57. @Anon
    Just glad to know your ethnicity, that's all. It helps to put things in context.

    You’re going to think I’m Jewish no matter what I say, so does it really matter?

    Point proven, by the way.

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  58. @Corvinus
    "I’ve accused you of being a Jewish troll many times but you always denied your Jewish ancestry."

    You are so predictable. I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I'm Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    "BTW, how much does the SPLC pay you to troll Unz and other sites to attack whites who don’t hate themselves or worship racial diversity and their own demographic displacement?"

    All your lies are belong to us.

    I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I’m Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.

    Oh, so claim you have Jewish lineage then pass it off as a practical joke to trick those evil and predictable Jew haters. A real genius move. Now your cover story is that you’re a European mutt. I’m sold.

    All your lies are belong to us.

    Ouch. You’re a real comeback artist, Corvy.

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    "Oh, so claim you have Jewish lineage then pass it off as a practical joke to trick those evil and predictable Jew haters. A real genius move. Now your cover story is that you’re a European mutt. I’m sold."

    Here is what I said--When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots–My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.

    So, when I said "My" and "I", I was directly referring to those Americans (they) who discuss where they come from in the first person (My, I). You assumed I was talking about me, specifically.
    Rather, I was making a a general statement, knowing full well that you and others would ignore the context and be triggered to call me out as a "Jew".

    If you want to wrongly believe I am Jewish because it makes you feelz good like an SJW, so be it. Again, your fetish on Jewry is duly noted.
  59. @Corvinus
    "For instance, Saudi Arabia’s policy on women is not great, but it’s still much preferable to any kind of feminism."

    Perhaps it is preferable to YOU, but the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia, while deplorable, is in effect none of our business if one is consistent with opposing the "invade the world, invite the world" lifestyle. Apparently, Trump has no issue with the Saudi's approach with their womenfolk or with their knack of supporting terrorism. Why not benefit his cronies in the military industrial complex by giving them billions of dollars in weapons? Not that some of those arms will find their way into the hands of Jihadists.

    Thank you for your opinion on this matter.

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  60. @Corvinus
    "Oh, is that a fact? Then what do we call ourselves, praytell?"

    Americans tend to call themselves "Americans". When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots--My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790. Europeans tend to call themselves "British" or "French" or "Austrian".

    If you want to refer to yourself as a "Westerner", no one is stopping you.

    “Americans tend to call themselves “Americans”. When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots…”

    Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    “Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”.”

    Support this assertion with appropriate citations and links. Otherwise, admit you are merely guessing and have no idea whether your statement is true or not.

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    "Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    Source--https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1236977

    This thread has several different people who refer to themselves as Americans.

    1--"And is this annoying to non-USA persons? This was from a reddit thread asking non-Americans what do Americans do that is taboo or otherwise insulting. This was like, the first and most prominent thing. Bunch of Europeans came in to state that a bunch of Americans claiming they are Irish/Spanish/Dutch whatever, when they are born and raised in America. This was said that it is because America is such a young country and that we are a melting pot, people need something to identify with. The best example was one of the British guy who said that the UK is a HUGE melting pot now with people from all over. But you don't hear Indians refer to themselves as Indian-British. Just British. As for me, I get shit from my friends because I just see myself as American. My dad is from Mexico, he is Mexican (to some extent, Naturalized Citizen now). I did not come from Mexico, I wasn't raised in Mexico, therefor, I am not Mexican. To some, this means I'm ashamed of where my family is from. Bollocks! I love Mexico, the women, the food, the beaches...the food. Oh, and the food. But I know I am no Mexican. "

    2--"My parents are immigrants. I’ve spent enough time in their countries of origin to identify pretty strongly with them. I consume their news, sports, and media, and I’d say their politics and history has a strong effect my own political beliefs. I would be a very different person without any of that. I honestly feel different enough from multiple-generation Americans to justify using those labels. I find that more normal that an Indian-British identifying solely as British. That’s an interesting phenomenon. Maybe it’s just been more culturally acceptable to highlight your heritage in the US. Or maybe the UK’s imperial past makes it easier for people from former British holdings to identify as British (not sure I believe this, just throwing ideas out there). After a couple of generations in the US when all that’s left of your heritage is physical features, I don’t know how strongly it affects a person. I’d be interested to hear. So what gives?
    Also, non-USA types. How do you feel if Sherry Petersen from Nebraska went to an Irish Pub and announced how Irish she was? Would this annoy you?

    3--I have a bit of a lot of countries: Austrian, German, Polish, Russian (although apparently that branch of the family was mainly from one area, with the borders changing on them), and Scottish. About the only one I even marginally identify with is the Austrian/German part. A) Because that's where my last name comes from, and B) So I can claim drinking German beer and devouring delicious meats as my cultural heritage. Otherwise, meh. I think for a lot of Americans, it's just something to say "cool, this is something that makes me a bit different". I don't think people REALLY divide themselves up anymore according to old ethnic boundaries. Kind of like how everyone loves to celebrate St. Patrick's Day, Cinco de Mayo, Oktoberfest, etc. Not that they actually know anything about these holidays. It's just a chance to not be white bread.

    Source--http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/why-a-recent-rise-in-nativist-xenophobia-is-so-troubling-in-a-nation-of-immigrants-9220268

    This person says refers to himself as an American while acknowledging, like most people, of their ancestry.

    "But that was about the extent of my observance of the cultural traditions of my ancestors, and it never occurred to me until many years later that the way many Americans describe their European roots might look odd to some real Europeans. I have made quite a few European friends since childhood, and they find it puzzling that Americans describe themselves as "a quarter German" (for example), since we're talking about people's nationality, and not a bloodline of the sort one might attribute to a breed of dogs.

    I'd never thought of it like that before, but they had a point. My great-great-grandparents spoke German before learning English, but a couple of generations later, no one in my family did. Nor did we observe many German traditions, because we'd been assimilated into the melting pot of America. When my German friends good-naturedly pointed out that it seemed weird to them that I'd describe myself as part German based on immigrant ancestors I'd never met, I had to agree with them."

    “Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”.

    Source--http://www.businessinsider.com/british-dont-think-they-are-european-2016-4

    This source shows how Europeans tend to identify themselves. Note the extremely low numbers by which Europeans identify themselves ONLY as Europeans.

    "Overall, British respondents were the most likely to identify themselves only by nationality, at 64%...Citizens from Cyprus (57%), Greece (51%), and Latvia (48%) were also highly likely to identify themselves only by nationality."
  61. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    For we Americans have had about enough.
     
    Pat, you remember a United States that doesn't exist.

    "We" Americans are no longer the people from your youth. "Americans" are rapidly becoming non-European. Why should a Mexican-American or black American or Asian American care a wit about Europe outside of trade. It's not their people.

    When Americans were 85% European blood, there was some reason to care about Europe. Europe was our ancestral home. The people living there were our blood. That is rapidly changing as America (and Europe) become less and less white.

    Outside of the deluded "We are world" types (that's you Corvinus so please don't respond), people care about their family and really take very little interest in what happens to outsiders.

    As the U.S. become less and less European and Europe becomes less and less European, the United States will care less and less about Europe. That is as it should be.

    Our near future is some depressing mix of Brazil, Mexico, California and Texas. Pockets of wealth surrounded by poverty and violence. No big race war. No white militias. Such a country will be hard pressed to keep the lights on, much less care about Europe. Brazil and Mexico despite being fairly large in terms of population and even GDP aren't big players on the world scene. That's where we're headed. Make sure that you have enough money to live in one of those nice pockets and start forming associations with those who are share your ancestry because everyone else already does the same.

    Good comment. Even when the (white) United States was overwhelmingly European origin, some Americans had the good sense to warn their countrymen against “entangling alliances.”

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    Oh yeah. It was always best to leave the rest of the world alone except to trade with and to maybe visit.

    But our Puritan streak just wouldn't let that happen. Of course, these days, it's not the WASPs who are responsible for U.S. foreign policy. Either way, we would have been better off minding our own business.
  62. “For we Americans have had about enough.”

    It’s about time.
    But Americans need to do something to change the situation not just complain.

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  63. @Wally
    'Trump gave the Saudis billions of dollars in weapons'?

    Wrong. The Saudis at least pay for them.

    It's your preferred "shitty little country" that gets billions in free armaments EVERY YEAR ... at US taxpayers expense.

    It's noted that you also support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while you advocate for massive low IQ, criminal 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.

    “Wrong. The Saudis at least pay for them.”

    Well, then, it’s settled. As long as our military receives compensation from a nation known for spreading Jihad, it’s no big deal in the end.

    “It’s noted that you also support strict Israeli immigration laws which specify JEWS ONLY, while you advocate for massive low IQ, criminal 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe.”

    Strawman. I did not take this position.

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  64. @KenH

    I purposely put in the Jewish reference knowing that one of you Jew haters would accuse me of being Jewish. I’m Polish, German, and Dutch. Your fetish with Jewry is duly noted.
     
    Oh, so claim you have Jewish lineage then pass it off as a practical joke to trick those evil and predictable Jew haters. A real genius move. Now your cover story is that you're a European mutt. I'm sold.

    All your lies are belong to us.
     
    Ouch. You're a real comeback artist, Corvy.

    “Oh, so claim you have Jewish lineage then pass it off as a practical joke to trick those evil and predictable Jew haters. A real genius move. Now your cover story is that you’re a European mutt. I’m sold.”

    Here is what I said–When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots–My great-grandfather came from Poland; I can trace my lineage to Jews who came to Rhode Island in 1790.

    So, when I said “My” and “I”, I was directly referring to those Americans (they) who discuss where they come from in the first person (My, I). You assumed I was talking about me, specifically.
    Rather, I was making a a general statement, knowing full well that you and others would ignore the context and be triggered to call me out as a “Jew”.

    If you want to wrongly believe I am Jewish because it makes you feelz good like an SJW, so be it. Again, your fetish on Jewry is duly noted.

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  65. @Bel Riose
    "Americans tend to call themselves “Americans”. When pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots..."

    Sources and citations, please. Aren't your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that "when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?"

    "Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”."

    Support this assertion with appropriate citations and links. Otherwise, admit you are merely guessing and have no idea whether your statement is true or not.

    “Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    Source–https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=1236977

    This thread has several different people who refer to themselves as Americans.

    1–”And is this annoying to non-USA persons? This was from a reddit thread asking non-Americans what do Americans do that is taboo or otherwise insulting. This was like, the first and most prominent thing. Bunch of Europeans came in to state that a bunch of Americans claiming they are Irish/Spanish/Dutch whatever, when they are born and raised in America. This was said that it is because America is such a young country and that we are a melting pot, people need something to identify with. The best example was one of the British guy who said that the UK is a HUGE melting pot now with people from all over. But you don’t hear Indians refer to themselves as Indian-British. Just British. As for me, I get shit from my friends because I just see myself as American. My dad is from Mexico, he is Mexican (to some extent, Naturalized Citizen now). I did not come from Mexico, I wasn’t raised in Mexico, therefor, I am not Mexican. To some, this means I’m ashamed of where my family is from. Bollocks! I love Mexico, the women, the food, the beaches…the food. Oh, and the food. But I know I am no Mexican. ”

    2–”My parents are immigrants. I’ve spent enough time in their countries of origin to identify pretty strongly with them. I consume their news, sports, and media, and I’d say their politics and history has a strong effect my own political beliefs. I would be a very different person without any of that. I honestly feel different enough from multiple-generation Americans to justify using those labels. I find that more normal that an Indian-British identifying solely as British. That’s an interesting phenomenon. Maybe it’s just been more culturally acceptable to highlight your heritage in the US. Or maybe the UK’s imperial past makes it easier for people from former British holdings to identify as British (not sure I believe this, just throwing ideas out there). After a couple of generations in the US when all that’s left of your heritage is physical features, I don’t know how strongly it affects a person. I’d be interested to hear. So what gives?
    Also, non-USA types. How do you feel if Sherry Petersen from Nebraska went to an Irish Pub and announced how Irish she was? Would this annoy you?

    3–I have a bit of a lot of countries: Austrian, German, Polish, Russian (although apparently that branch of the family was mainly from one area, with the borders changing on them), and Scottish. About the only one I even marginally identify with is the Austrian/German part. A) Because that’s where my last name comes from, and B) So I can claim drinking German beer and devouring delicious meats as my cultural heritage. Otherwise, meh. I think for a lot of Americans, it’s just something to say “cool, this is something that makes me a bit different”. I don’t think people REALLY divide themselves up anymore according to old ethnic boundaries. Kind of like how everyone loves to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day, Cinco de Mayo, Oktoberfest, etc. Not that they actually know anything about these holidays. It’s just a chance to not be white bread.

    Source–http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/why-a-recent-rise-in-nativist-xenophobia-is-so-troubling-in-a-nation-of-immigrants-9220268

    This person says refers to himself as an American while acknowledging, like most people, of their ancestry.

    “But that was about the extent of my observance of the cultural traditions of my ancestors, and it never occurred to me until many years later that the way many Americans describe their European roots might look odd to some real Europeans. I have made quite a few European friends since childhood, and they find it puzzling that Americans describe themselves as “a quarter German” (for example), since we’re talking about people’s nationality, and not a bloodline of the sort one might attribute to a breed of dogs.

    I’d never thought of it like that before, but they had a point. My great-great-grandparents spoke German before learning English, but a couple of generations later, no one in my family did. Nor did we observe many German traditions, because we’d been assimilated into the melting pot of America. When my German friends good-naturedly pointed out that it seemed weird to them that I’d describe myself as part German based on immigrant ancestors I’d never met, I had to agree with them.”

    “Europeans tend to call themselves “British” or “French” or “Austrian”.

    Source–http://www.businessinsider.com/british-dont-think-they-are-european-2016-4

    This source shows how Europeans tend to identify themselves. Note the extremely low numbers by which Europeans identify themselves ONLY as Europeans.

    “Overall, British respondents were the most likely to identify themselves only by nationality, at 64%…Citizens from Cyprus (57%), Greece (51%), and Latvia (48%) were also highly likely to identify themselves only by nationality.”

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  66. @Wally
    Indeed, sit on the sidelines and let the browns & blacks fight among themselves and do the work for us.
    Good idea.

    “Indeed, sit on the sidelines and let the browns & blacks fight among themselves and do the work for us. Good idea.”

    Actually, in this impending race war, it will be whites vs. non-whites, not non-whites fighting each other. Great to know you admit you do not have the stones to be on the front lines. You are just like those boys who refused to serve their nation in Vietnam. Traitor!

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  67. Those of us who live in “flyover country” are already doing our part in disassociating ourselves from the clutches of an overbearing, oppressive, and perverted “society” and government. We ignore the demands for “inclusion and diversity” made by our so-called “leaders” by associating with those more like “our own kind”. We consider homosexuality, cross-dressing, and “gender bending flexibility” to be aberrations, not worthy of our time or respect. We are the same “silent majority” that helped elect Nixon to the presidency, despite the “news media” (another part of our perverted, self-appointed “anointed” guardians) support for “all things democrat”.
    We associate with who we want despite the proscriptions pushed by the so-called “civil-rights” crowd.
    In fact, to be ignored is one of our most endearing qualities. Despite being ignored, we managed to get Trump elected, despite the media blathering and support for “H”…
    We occupants of “flyover country” have already taken back our freedom by disassociating ourselves from the so-called “elite”…

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  68. @Rurik

    During his visit to NATO in Brussels and the G-7 in Sicily, Trump, with both his words and body language,
     
    https://i.imgur.com/B3vj7fr.mp4

    in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic norms and human rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.
     
    obviously what this means is

    "...in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for "democratic norms" and "human rights" will now take a back seat to strategic interests."

    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the environmentalist international.
     
    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the Global initiative to enslave the planet to Goldman Sachs by handing the ((oligarch/elite)) the power to tax every breath we take for the greater glory of global equalism. = absolute power of the .001% to dominate the entire planet absolutely (in order to save us all from a planet burned to a crisp by Southern American men's Ford trucks)

    requiring all NATO nations to treat an attack on one as an attack on all, which our nervous NATO allies had wanted to hear.
     
    nervous of what exactly?

    I'd really like to know. There isn't one person on this planet except John McBloodstain or Lindsey Graham (or their quislings in Kyiv) who considers Putin a 'threat'.

    A U.S.-NATO collision could come here, and soon.
     
    finally! some good news

    perhaps take over the Boeing contract. That could bring a crisis.
     
    .. of the Gods of the Copybook Headings

    Europeans bailing out wholesale on the next U.S. war in the Middle East.
     
    I'm getting chills up my leg

    Trump also seems less committed to the sanctions on Russia for its reannexation of Ukraine and support of pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass than does NATO Europe or Congress.
     
    Pat knows that Russia did not 're-annex' Ukraine, but simply allowed Crimea to return home. And that "Europe" isn't in favor of the sanctions, but only Rothschild's Zio-minions in London, Brussels, Berlin and Paris.


    especially the Germans who are “bad, very bad.”
     
    Lol

    The European half of Trump’s trip should be taken as a fire-bell-in-the-night warning: Shape up, Europe, or you may find yourselves on your own when it comes to the defense of your continent.

    For we Americans have had about enough.

     

    what could "the defense of your continent" possibly mean?

    the only invasion being perpetrated against Europa is being done by Muslim and African hoards, often coming because of the wars the ZUSA is fomenting and foisting in Muslim lands. To save Europe from the Zio-quislings destroying her, she hardly needs the help of the ZUSA, unless it's to tell them that there will be no more contrived wars for fun and profit in the Greater Levant. Or, US sponsored destabilizations on Russia's doorstep.

    What a convoluted, discombobulated mess things are right now. But this all sounds like excellent developments.

    Too bad Le Pen didn't win. There'd be genuine reason for hope. As it is, as Buchanan describes it, we're on the right track, saber rattling at Iran notwithstanding.

    The forces behind Merkel are an abomination, and I just hope Trump feels something deep in his bones about the genocide of the greatest tribe of Europa, from whence (some of) his ancestors hailed.

    Hi Rurik. Late on the thread but here’s my two cents. Buchanan is saying that the possible breakup of military alliances is a good thing. Say, if Europe wants to go into a fratricide war with Russia, they’re free to do so., but the U.S. is not going in. That’s deterrent, and good for the world undoubtedly. (Whether the fact that “only” the U.S. would fight Iran because Europe would respect their Iran deal is another question.)

    But look at the title: “Breakup of the West?” I believe he is also making a parallel with the breakup of the Roman Empire before its collapse (of the Western part) in 5th century AD. They had lost the capacity to manage “world-wide” (Mediterranean) affairs. Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of ‘managed West’ (with Russia included) is desirable, don’t you think? That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump’s true foreign policy challenge. Step one, avoid wars. Step two, civilizational understanding.

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    Hello Veritatis,

    Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of ‘managed West’ (with Russia included) is desirable, don’t you think?
     
    I suspect that the best approach would be a post-Nuremburg type of international law that respects the sovereignty of all nati0ns to thrive and live unmolested, as Jefferson counseled:

    "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none"

    with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia

    the problem with any kind of central control or sphere of power is that it's too easy to corrupt a single power, like the Pope for instance. And turn him into an enemy of the very West who he's supposed to want to defend.

    but our main concern today, as far as I can see, is that the Federal Reserve bank scheme has allowed the Zionists to completely and absolutely corrupt the governments and institutions of the West to their bidding. And that bidding includes suicide for the formerly Christian nations who the Zionists hate and resent for '2000 years of persecution', blah, blah, blah. And because they simply resent our people and civilization for being what we are. They want to crush and destroy what they envy and what they didn't and couldn't create themselves.

    so this is our glaring and existential dilemma today, not any trite or petty grievances ((they're)) using to get us to cut each other's throats, like in Donbas for instance, as they flood our lands with their armies of non-Westerners.

    if we don't free our governments and institutions and banks from these netherworld demon$, all is lost anyways. It's just a matter of counting down to our ultimate genocide, when the last white Gentile will breathe his last breath on this rock. And our entire history will be re-written as if it never happened. Copernicus, Newton and all the rest will be scourged as dead, evil white men (Nazis and racists) and their achievements memory holed and/or heralded as kosher accomplishments.

    If we do not end the Fed, this is our guaranteed fate and legacy.


    That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump’s true foreign policy challenge.
     
    make no mistake Veritatis, the ONLY reason Islam is ascendant, (in the West), is due 100% because of the intrigues and corruption of our governments by the Fiend. Were it not the insistence of the Fiend, Islam would be thriving perhaps, but in their own nations where they belong.
  69. @Joe Levantine
    Thumbs up for an excellent, very lucid and straight to the point analysis.
    Yet, the White race genocide in general and that of Europe in particular is a direct factor of the vanishing masculinity of the European whites who are described by Tom Rifat on Renseradio.com as victims of their own docility and deference to power because of their defective Y chromosome. Wether Mr. Rifat's biological analysis is true or not, any keen observer of history would pretty much agree that the White race courage throughout history had been a function of the leadership at hand. Thus under strong leaders, the likes of Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin, White Europeans have proven to be of great courage. Unfortunately, the courage of White Europeans since the end of the crusades has by and large manifested itself by fracticidal warfare. What Europe needs first and foremost is a spiritual revival that would put the traditional values of courage, chivalry and territoriality as the holy grail of manhood. This means the total dismantling of the ZOG spirit that is destroying the social fabric and the cultural heritage of Europe.

    thanks Joe,

    vanishing masculinity of the European whites

    lots of factors at play here. The white race achieved an unprecedented level of material and technological success. Their advances in medicine and the sciences allowed them to keep defectives alive when they would have otherwise perished under normal circumstances. The weak and the shiftless and the moronic were able not just to endure, but to breed more of the same. John McCain and Lindsey Graham voters are the children of genetic defectives, who by all rights, should have died shortly after birth.

    Also consider what the world wars did to the flower of Europa. The millions of young men of Germany, Russia, Poland, England and so many others were slaughtered in a banker contrived fratricidal bloodfest. ‘Such a deal!’ This is exactly what they like to do again with a contrived conflict between Russia and Eastern Europe. There are a lot of strong, intelligent, capable young men in these countries whose genes seem too robust to be susceptible to the soul-rot being pumped into Western Europe, Scandinavia and N. America.

    That’s another thing. The people of Scandanavia have been protected by the ravages of the banksters and their orcs for hundreds if not thousands of years. When the Ottomans were relentlessly and violently attempting to encroach on Europe/Christendom, they had to get though the Balkans first, and then though Germany/Austria. And so Scandinavia was isolated and protected and had no experience with orcs. So when the cultural death dealers came knocking, and used the power of the Fed to purchase Scandinavia’s cultural institutions they were able to simply tell Sweden that orcs were people. And not just people, but special, and persecuted people whom the Swedes owed a debt.

    It was a double whammy for Sweden. They were dominated from the top by the Fiend, and now they’re dominated on the streets by orcs, that they have zero cultural or genetic experience dealing with.

    Then there is of course the non-stop, 27/7 injection of spiritual sewage from the ((controlled)) msm.

    lots and lots of causes here, and I’d like to flesh them out more, but I have to go.

    anyways, unless we’re able to identify the problems, we’ll never be able to offer any solutions.

    cheers

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    Hey Rurik,

    Just one thing, since you mentioned Scandinavia.

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies - the Poles and Russians. So much so that King Karl XII fled there after his disastrous attack on Russia (which one isn't, eh?) and lived there for a while - even studying things about the Ottoman military to bring back with him. The Ottomans provided him with safety and even went to war against Russia when Russia demanded him. The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.
    https://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1700s/yr10/pruthriver.htm

    He eventually got back to Sweden and invaded Norway - this time he wasn't so lucky:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=king+karl+xii+death&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1k4CKg53UAhVJqVQKHdkgCs0Q_AUIBigB&biw=1344&bih=774

    Peace.

  70. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    For we Americans have had about enough.
     
    Pat, you remember a United States that doesn't exist.

    "We" Americans are no longer the people from your youth. "Americans" are rapidly becoming non-European. Why should a Mexican-American or black American or Asian American care a wit about Europe outside of trade. It's not their people.

    When Americans were 85% European blood, there was some reason to care about Europe. Europe was our ancestral home. The people living there were our blood. That is rapidly changing as America (and Europe) become less and less white.

    Outside of the deluded "We are world" types (that's you Corvinus so please don't respond), people care about their family and really take very little interest in what happens to outsiders.

    As the U.S. become less and less European and Europe becomes less and less European, the United States will care less and less about Europe. That is as it should be.

    Our near future is some depressing mix of Brazil, Mexico, California and Texas. Pockets of wealth surrounded by poverty and violence. No big race war. No white militias. Such a country will be hard pressed to keep the lights on, much less care about Europe. Brazil and Mexico despite being fairly large in terms of population and even GDP aren't big players on the world scene. That's where we're headed. Make sure that you have enough money to live in one of those nice pockets and start forming associations with those who are share your ancestry because everyone else already does the same.

    ““We” Americans are no longer the people from your youth. “Americans” are rapidly becoming non-European.”

    Non-European, but still American. We are a mutt nation.

    “Why should a Mexican-American or black American or Asian American care a wit about Europe outside of trade. It’s not their people.”

    You seem to forget that the same sentiments were shared by nativists in the late 1800′s/early 1900′s about Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans, and Slavic-Americans. These groups were considered other than desirable and incapable of assimilating.

    “When Americans were 85% European blood, there was some reason to care about Europe. Europe was our ancestral home. The people living there were our blood. That is rapidly changing as America (and Europe) become less and less white.”

    Indeed, first generation immigrants from Europe still had that strong bond. Their children and grandchildren? Not so much, for their loyalty was tied to the United States.

    “Outside of the deluded “We are world” types (that’s you Corvinus so please don’t respond), people care about their family and really take very little interest in what happens to outsiders.”

    Those “deluded we are the world types” are tens of millions of white Americans like myself who care not only about their kin, but also their community. Hate facts, to be sure.

    “Our near future is some depressing mix of Brazil, Mexico, California and Texas.”

    Perhaps, perhaps not.

    “Pockets of wealth surrounded by poverty and violence.”

    Just like before.

    “No big race war. No white militias.”

    What? Really? Are you serious?

    “Make sure that you have enough money to live in one of those nice pockets and start forming associations with those who are share your ancestry because everyone else already does the same.”

    If that is the route you prefer to take, go for it.

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  71. @Corvinus
    "The breakup of the West, at least as presently configured, can’t happen too fast."

    Americans and Europeans generally do not refer to themselves as "Westerners". Moreover, I would imagine hundreds of millions of us are going to do their due diligence to ensure there is not this "break-up" as you so wholeheartedly endorse.

    Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained.

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    , @Corvinus
    "Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained."

    No. What I advocate are referred to sensible moderate policies, not leftist or rightest agendas. You be confused.

  72. @Diversity Heretic
    Good comment. Even when the (white) United States was overwhelmingly European origin, some Americans had the good sense to warn their countrymen against "entangling alliances."

    Oh yeah. It was always best to leave the rest of the world alone except to trade with and to maybe visit.

    But our Puritan streak just wouldn’t let that happen. Of course, these days, it’s not the WASPs who are responsible for U.S. foreign policy. Either way, we would have been better off minding our own business.

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  73. @Rurik
    thanks Joe,

    vanishing masculinity of the European whites
     
    lots of factors at play here. The white race achieved an unprecedented level of material and technological success. Their advances in medicine and the sciences allowed them to keep defectives alive when they would have otherwise perished under normal circumstances. The weak and the shiftless and the moronic were able not just to endure, but to breed more of the same. John McCain and Lindsey Graham voters are the children of genetic defectives, who by all rights, should have died shortly after birth.

    Also consider what the world wars did to the flower of Europa. The millions of young men of Germany, Russia, Poland, England and so many others were slaughtered in a banker contrived fratricidal bloodfest. 'Such a deal!' This is exactly what they like to do again with a contrived conflict between Russia and Eastern Europe. There are a lot of strong, intelligent, capable young men in these countries whose genes seem too robust to be susceptible to the soul-rot being pumped into Western Europe, Scandinavia and N. America.

    That's another thing. The people of Scandanavia have been protected by the ravages of the banksters and their orcs for hundreds if not thousands of years. When the Ottomans were relentlessly and violently attempting to encroach on Europe/Christendom, they had to get though the Balkans first, and then though Germany/Austria. And so Scandinavia was isolated and protected and had no experience with orcs. So when the cultural death dealers came knocking, and used the power of the Fed to purchase Scandinavia's cultural institutions they were able to simply tell Sweden that orcs were people. And not just people, but special, and persecuted people whom the Swedes owed a debt.

    It was a double whammy for Sweden. They were dominated from the top by the Fiend, and now they're dominated on the streets by orcs, that they have zero cultural or genetic experience dealing with.

    Then there is of course the non-stop, 27/7 injection of spiritual sewage from the ((controlled)) msm.

    lots and lots of causes here, and I'd like to flesh them out more, but I have to go.

    anyways, unless we're able to identify the problems, we'll never be able to offer any solutions.

    cheers

    Hey Rurik,

    Just one thing, since you mentioned Scandinavia.

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies – the Poles and Russians. So much so that King Karl XII fled there after his disastrous attack on Russia (which one isn’t, eh?) and lived there for a while – even studying things about the Ottoman military to bring back with him. The Ottomans provided him with safety and even went to war against Russia when Russia demanded him. The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.

    https://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1700s/yr10/pruthriver.htm

    He eventually got back to Sweden and invaded Norway – this time he wasn’t so lucky:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=king+karl+xii+death&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1k4CKg53UAhVJqVQKHdkgCs0Q_AUIBigB&biw=1344&bih=774

    Peace.

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    Always a pleasure Talha,

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies – the Poles and Russians
     
    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?

    The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.
     
    "their" Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?

    He got what was coming to him in Norway. Nice ending to the story.

    Which I sort of took a cursory look at.

    http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2014/03/monarch-profile-king-charles-xii-of.html

    fascinating if tragic figure from Swedish history. The folly of hubris, as it ever was, eh?

    thanks as always for your thoughtful comments Talha

    btw, when I mention orcs rampaging in Sweden, I mean orcs like this:

    http://www.uriasposten.net/pics/ElinKrantz-2011.jpg

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Elin+Krantz&go=Search&qs=bs&form=QBIR&first=1&cw=1263&ch=907

    and I for one would be all for expelling virtually every singe orc from the land of Sweden today, if it meant that the next Elin Krantz didn't end up like that one did.

    and all the howls of 'it's not fair!!" and 'this is racist!!!' would fall on deaf ears from me, that's for sure.

    I'm sure you'd agree, having a Swedish wife and all, that you must feel the same way. No?

    or are a few raped and savagely murdered beautiful Swedish girls and "no go areas" for ethnic Swedes in their own ancient lands, just part of the price that Sweden should be willing to pay so that no one can call them 'racists'?

    peace

  74. @Rurik

    During his visit to NATO in Brussels and the G-7 in Sicily, Trump, with both his words and body language,
     
    https://i.imgur.com/B3vj7fr.mp4

    in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for democratic norms and human rights will now take a back seat to strategic interests.
     
    obviously what this means is

    "...in dealing with foreign nations, U.S. support for "democratic norms" and "human rights" will now take a back seat to strategic interests."

    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the environmentalist international.
     
    Paris climate accord that is the altarpiece of the Global initiative to enslave the planet to Goldman Sachs by handing the ((oligarch/elite)) the power to tax every breath we take for the greater glory of global equalism. = absolute power of the .001% to dominate the entire planet absolutely (in order to save us all from a planet burned to a crisp by Southern American men's Ford trucks)

    requiring all NATO nations to treat an attack on one as an attack on all, which our nervous NATO allies had wanted to hear.
     
    nervous of what exactly?

    I'd really like to know. There isn't one person on this planet except John McBloodstain or Lindsey Graham (or their quislings in Kyiv) who considers Putin a 'threat'.

    A U.S.-NATO collision could come here, and soon.
     
    finally! some good news

    perhaps take over the Boeing contract. That could bring a crisis.
     
    .. of the Gods of the Copybook Headings

    Europeans bailing out wholesale on the next U.S. war in the Middle East.
     
    I'm getting chills up my leg

    Trump also seems less committed to the sanctions on Russia for its reannexation of Ukraine and support of pro-Russian rebels in the Donbass than does NATO Europe or Congress.
     
    Pat knows that Russia did not 're-annex' Ukraine, but simply allowed Crimea to return home. And that "Europe" isn't in favor of the sanctions, but only Rothschild's Zio-minions in London, Brussels, Berlin and Paris.


    especially the Germans who are “bad, very bad.”
     
    Lol

    The European half of Trump’s trip should be taken as a fire-bell-in-the-night warning: Shape up, Europe, or you may find yourselves on your own when it comes to the defense of your continent.

    For we Americans have had about enough.

     

    what could "the defense of your continent" possibly mean?

    the only invasion being perpetrated against Europa is being done by Muslim and African hoards, often coming because of the wars the ZUSA is fomenting and foisting in Muslim lands. To save Europe from the Zio-quislings destroying her, she hardly needs the help of the ZUSA, unless it's to tell them that there will be no more contrived wars for fun and profit in the Greater Levant. Or, US sponsored destabilizations on Russia's doorstep.

    What a convoluted, discombobulated mess things are right now. But this all sounds like excellent developments.

    Too bad Le Pen didn't win. There'd be genuine reason for hope. As it is, as Buchanan describes it, we're on the right track, saber rattling at Iran notwithstanding.

    The forces behind Merkel are an abomination, and I just hope Trump feels something deep in his bones about the genocide of the greatest tribe of Europa, from whence (some of) his ancestors hailed.

    In all frankness, a world where countries such as Russia can make more aggressive moves against the sickening liberalism of Europe is hardly a bad thing for our cause. Its hardly a bad thing for humanity as a whole.

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    a world where countries such as Russia can make more aggressive moves against the sickening liberalism of Europe is hardly a bad thing for our cause. Its hardly a bad thing for humanity as a whole.
     
    there's nothing magic about the Russian soil or the Russian DNA. They too were under the thrall of the Fiend until Putin singlehandedly and heroically pulled their chestnuts out of the Moloch's sacrificial flames.

    but the only reason he was able to do so was because the minions of Moloch had already left Russia to 'live off the fat' of greener pastures. The resaons the Berlin wall came down was because they were all over here now, and so what was the point of the wall when they controlled London and NY and Paris and Berlin just as completely as they once controlled Moscow.

    But then when the wall came down, a Russian patriot seized the opportunity and freed Russia from their yoke. Putin will go down in history along with Peter and Catharine.

    There's no need or purpose in Russia making aggressive moves on the dying ((murdered)) West. We have to free ourselves, and the only way we will EVER do that is by hammering a stake through the black, festering heart of the Fiend / Federal Reserve Bank.
  75. @Daniel Chieh
    Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained.

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    Not until I finish bashing the cucks. I think that'll be something for President Spencer then to decide, not you. Now keep your peace. Repetition is boring after awhile.
  76. @Veritatis
    Hi Rurik. Late on the thread but here's my two cents. Buchanan is saying that the possible breakup of military alliances is a good thing. Say, if Europe wants to go into a fratricide war with Russia, they're free to do so., but the U.S. is not going in. That's deterrent, and good for the world undoubtedly. (Whether the fact that "only" the U.S. would fight Iran because Europe would respect their Iran deal is another question.)

    But look at the title: "Breakup of the West?" I believe he is also making a parallel with the breakup of the Roman Empire before its collapse (of the Western part) in 5th century AD. They had lost the capacity to manage "world-wide" (Mediterranean) affairs. Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of 'managed West' (with Russia included) is desirable, don't you think? That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump's true foreign policy challenge. Step one, avoid wars. Step two, civilizational understanding.

    Hello Veritatis,

    Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of ‘managed West’ (with Russia included) is desirable, don’t you think?

    I suspect that the best approach would be a post-Nuremburg type of international law that respects the sovereignty of all nati0ns to thrive and live unmolested, as Jefferson counseled:

    “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none”

    with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia

    the problem with any kind of central control or sphere of power is that it’s too easy to corrupt a single power, like the Pope for instance. And turn him into an enemy of the very West who he’s supposed to want to defend.

    but our main concern today, as far as I can see, is that the Federal Reserve bank scheme has allowed the Zionists to completely and absolutely corrupt the governments and institutions of the West to their bidding. And that bidding includes suicide for the formerly Christian nations who the Zionists hate and resent for ’2000 years of persecution’, blah, blah, blah. And because they simply resent our people and civilization for being what we are. They want to crush and destroy what they envy and what they didn’t and couldn’t create themselves.

    so this is our glaring and existential dilemma today, not any trite or petty grievances ((they’re)) using to get us to cut each other’s throats, like in Donbas for instance, as they flood our lands with their armies of non-Westerners.

    if we don’t free our governments and institutions and banks from these netherworld demon$, all is lost anyways. It’s just a matter of counting down to our ultimate genocide, when the last white Gentile will breathe his last breath on this rock. And our entire history will be re-written as if it never happened. Copernicus, Newton and all the rest will be scourged as dead, evil white men (Nazis and racists) and their achievements memory holed and/or heralded as kosher accomplishments.

    If we do not end the Fed, this is our guaranteed fate and legacy.

    That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump’s true foreign policy challenge.

    make no mistake Veritatis, the ONLY reason Islam is ascendant, (in the West), is due 100% because of the intrigues and corruption of our governments by the Fiend. Were it not the insistence of the Fiend, Islam would be thriving perhaps, but in their own nations where they belong.

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    "..with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia."

    Yes, exactly, something more meaty than the old "family of nations" concept after 1648, and not only military in scope. And definitely including Russia, to heal the fracture of "the West" after WWII.

    I think Islam is resurgent for three reasons: they have acquired technological prowess from the 'the West', they (at least some Middle Eastern ones) have lots of money and a way to build networks (mosque/schools), and they think their faith/worldview is valuable (particularly against what they see as a decadent West). So yes, the drive to conquer is there (infiltration being a time-honored way of starting conquest).

    But here's some good news about "The other Europe", the beginning of a good answer. (Bear with the catholic site, the arguments are not religious and the little map is quite interesting. And the link too.)
    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2017/06/01/the-other-europe/
  77. @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    Just one thing, since you mentioned Scandinavia.

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies - the Poles and Russians. So much so that King Karl XII fled there after his disastrous attack on Russia (which one isn't, eh?) and lived there for a while - even studying things about the Ottoman military to bring back with him. The Ottomans provided him with safety and even went to war against Russia when Russia demanded him. The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.
    https://www.onwar.com/aced/chrono/c1700s/yr10/pruthriver.htm

    He eventually got back to Sweden and invaded Norway - this time he wasn't so lucky:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=king+karl+xii+death&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi1k4CKg53UAhVJqVQKHdkgCs0Q_AUIBigB&biw=1344&bih=774

    Peace.

    Always a pleasure Talha,

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies – the Poles and Russians

    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?

    The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.

    “their” Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?

    He got what was coming to him in Norway. Nice ending to the story.

    Which I sort of took a cursory look at.

    http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2014/03/monarch-profile-king-charles-xii-of.html

    fascinating if tragic figure from Swedish history. The folly of hubris, as it ever was, eh?

    thanks as always for your thoughtful comments Talha

    btw, when I mention orcs rampaging in Sweden, I mean orcs like this:

    http://www.uriasposten.net/pics/ElinKrantz-2011.jpg

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Elin+Krantz&go=Search&qs=bs&form=QBIR&first=1&cw=1263&ch=907

    and I for one would be all for expelling virtually every singe orc from the land of Sweden today, if it meant that the next Elin Krantz didn't end up like that one did.

    and all the howls of 'it's not fair!!" and 'this is racist!!!' would fall on deaf ears from me, that's for sure.

    I'm sure you'd agree, having a Swedish wife and all, that you must feel the same way. No?

    or are a few raped and savagely murdered beautiful Swedish girls and "no go areas" for ethnic Swedes in their own ancient lands, just part of the price that Sweden should be willing to pay so that no one can call them 'racists'?

    peace

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA_T_yHXkAErXoQ.jpg
    , @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?
     
    Given that Sweden was not on friendly terms even with Christian neighbors or that the Ottomans were also often fighting their Muslim neighbors - not much. It was a marriage of convenience for sure. My only point being that Sweden had a history with the Ottomans and a not-so-unfriendly one at that. I mean, you don't risk war with Russia in order to protect a guy you don't get along with.

    “their” Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?
     
    Both - that was the time of empires, when you took territories by force. All large nations did so at the time - again see King Carl's multiple attempts. The Ottoman's weren't unique in this regard and the fact that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental. They expanded into rival Muslim territory when possible too.

    He got what was coming to him in Norway.
     
    Live by the sword...

    that you must feel the same way. No?
     
    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc - give them the boot or...well...it still boggles my mind that the Swedes and other Europeans don't have the death penalty.

    Peace.
  78. @Rurik
    Always a pleasure Talha,

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies – the Poles and Russians
     
    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?

    The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.
     
    "their" Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?

    He got what was coming to him in Norway. Nice ending to the story.

    Which I sort of took a cursory look at.

    http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2014/03/monarch-profile-king-charles-xii-of.html

    fascinating if tragic figure from Swedish history. The folly of hubris, as it ever was, eh?

    thanks as always for your thoughtful comments Talha

    btw, when I mention orcs rampaging in Sweden, I mean orcs like this:

    http://www.uriasposten.net/pics/ElinKrantz-2011.jpg

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Elin+Krantz&go=Search&qs=bs&form=QBIR&first=1&cw=1263&ch=907

    and I for one would be all for expelling virtually every singe orc from the land of Sweden today, if it meant that the next Elin Krantz didn't end up like that one did.

    and all the howls of 'it's not fair!!" and 'this is racist!!!' would fall on deaf ears from me, that's for sure.

    I'm sure you'd agree, having a Swedish wife and all, that you must feel the same way. No?

    or are a few raped and savagely murdered beautiful Swedish girls and "no go areas" for ethnic Swedes in their own ancient lands, just part of the price that Sweden should be willing to pay so that no one can call them 'racists'?

    peace

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  79. @rw95
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    Not until I finish bashing the cucks. I think that’ll be something for President Spencer then to decide, not you. Now keep your peace. Repetition is boring after awhile.

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  80. @Daniel Chieh
    In all frankness, a world where countries such as Russia can make more aggressive moves against the sickening liberalism of Europe is hardly a bad thing for our cause. Its hardly a bad thing for humanity as a whole.

    a world where countries such as Russia can make more aggressive moves against the sickening liberalism of Europe is hardly a bad thing for our cause. Its hardly a bad thing for humanity as a whole.

    there’s nothing magic about the Russian soil or the Russian DNA. They too were under the thrall of the Fiend until Putin singlehandedly and heroically pulled their chestnuts out of the Moloch’s sacrificial flames.

    but the only reason he was able to do so was because the minions of Moloch had already left Russia to ‘live off the fat’ of greener pastures. The resaons the Berlin wall came down was because they were all over here now, and so what was the point of the wall when they controlled London and NY and Paris and Berlin just as completely as they once controlled Moscow.

    But then when the wall came down, a Russian patriot seized the opportunity and freed Russia from their yoke. Putin will go down in history along with Peter and Catharine.

    There’s no need or purpose in Russia making aggressive moves on the dying ((murdered)) West. We have to free ourselves, and the only way we will EVER do that is by hammering a stake through the black, festering heart of the Fiend / Federal Reserve Bank.

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  81. @Jason Liu
    That, and European societies are the ones that believe in the most backwards, anti-civilization values. For instance, Saudi Arabia's policy on women is not great, but it's still much preferable to any kind of feminism. Western nationalists probably have much more in common with Duterte, Erdogan, Putin etc, if not most of the non-western world.

    It's kind of like how the Alt-Right and SJW ideologues are polar opposites, even though they're both predominantly white. It is a division of your own making, probably caused by too much freedom, at least when it comes to treating leftists.

    Time to cut losses. Let Western Europe burn. And I say this as a European. If Eastern Europe can maintain the firewall, they deserve our support.

    It’s increasingly evident that all the good Germans died in The War. No sense in shedding our blood and treasure for the detritus.

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  82. @Rurik
    Always a pleasure Talha,

    Keep in mind that the Swedish Empire was on friendly terms with the Ottomans against mutual enemies – the Poles and Russians
     
    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?

    The Ottomans were able to turn back an angered Russian assault on their Balkan territories.
     
    "their" Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?

    He got what was coming to him in Norway. Nice ending to the story.

    Which I sort of took a cursory look at.

    http://madmonarchist.blogspot.com/2014/03/monarch-profile-king-charles-xii-of.html

    fascinating if tragic figure from Swedish history. The folly of hubris, as it ever was, eh?

    thanks as always for your thoughtful comments Talha

    btw, when I mention orcs rampaging in Sweden, I mean orcs like this:

    http://www.uriasposten.net/pics/ElinKrantz-2011.jpg

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Elin+Krantz&go=Search&qs=bs&form=QBIR&first=1&cw=1263&ch=907

    and I for one would be all for expelling virtually every singe orc from the land of Sweden today, if it meant that the next Elin Krantz didn't end up like that one did.

    and all the howls of 'it's not fair!!" and 'this is racist!!!' would fall on deaf ears from me, that's for sure.

    I'm sure you'd agree, having a Swedish wife and all, that you must feel the same way. No?

    or are a few raped and savagely murdered beautiful Swedish girls and "no go areas" for ethnic Swedes in their own ancient lands, just part of the price that Sweden should be willing to pay so that no one can call them 'racists'?

    peace

    Hey Rurik,

    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?

    Given that Sweden was not on friendly terms even with Christian neighbors or that the Ottomans were also often fighting their Muslim neighbors – not much. It was a marriage of convenience for sure. My only point being that Sweden had a history with the Ottomans and a not-so-unfriendly one at that. I mean, you don’t risk war with Russia in order to protect a guy you don’t get along with.

    “their” Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?

    Both – that was the time of empires, when you took territories by force. All large nations did so at the time – again see King Carl’s multiple attempts. The Ottoman’s weren’t unique in this regard and the fact that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental. They expanded into rival Muslim territory when possible too.

    He got what was coming to him in Norway.

    Live by the sword…

    that you must feel the same way. No?

    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc – give them the boot or…well…it still boggles my mind that the Swedes and other Europeans don’t have the death penalty.

    Peace.

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    that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental.
     
    I sort of agree with this

    they didn't go for the religious conversions, that was as you point out, incidental. Rather the reason they advanced upon Europe is for the same thing men have been killing other men for since the beginning of time - their land and the plunder in human spoils.

    Muslims have historically had a very high regard for European slaves/flesh and janissaries

    so yea, I agree, it was incidental. Just as the reason the Muslims and other Africans are pouring into Sweden. It's isn't to *convert* the locals, that's for sure.


    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc –

     

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers and then just wait until they actually get caught committing crimes before they send a few packing?

    there are entire areas that are verboten to ethnic Swedes in Sweden. Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?


    peace

  83. @Rurik
    Hello Veritatis,

    Not that I think the U.S. should manage the world, but some type of ‘managed West’ (with Russia included) is desirable, don’t you think?
     
    I suspect that the best approach would be a post-Nuremburg type of international law that respects the sovereignty of all nati0ns to thrive and live unmolested, as Jefferson counseled:

    "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none"

    with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia

    the problem with any kind of central control or sphere of power is that it's too easy to corrupt a single power, like the Pope for instance. And turn him into an enemy of the very West who he's supposed to want to defend.

    but our main concern today, as far as I can see, is that the Federal Reserve bank scheme has allowed the Zionists to completely and absolutely corrupt the governments and institutions of the West to their bidding. And that bidding includes suicide for the formerly Christian nations who the Zionists hate and resent for '2000 years of persecution', blah, blah, blah. And because they simply resent our people and civilization for being what we are. They want to crush and destroy what they envy and what they didn't and couldn't create themselves.

    so this is our glaring and existential dilemma today, not any trite or petty grievances ((they're)) using to get us to cut each other's throats, like in Donbas for instance, as they flood our lands with their armies of non-Westerners.

    if we don't free our governments and institutions and banks from these netherworld demon$, all is lost anyways. It's just a matter of counting down to our ultimate genocide, when the last white Gentile will breathe his last breath on this rock. And our entire history will be re-written as if it never happened. Copernicus, Newton and all the rest will be scourged as dead, evil white men (Nazis and racists) and their achievements memory holed and/or heralded as kosher accomplishments.

    If we do not end the Fed, this is our guaranteed fate and legacy.


    That, particularly because of a resurgent Islam, is Trump’s true foreign policy challenge.
     
    make no mistake Veritatis, the ONLY reason Islam is ascendant, (in the West), is due 100% because of the intrigues and corruption of our governments by the Fiend. Were it not the insistence of the Fiend, Islam would be thriving perhaps, but in their own nations where they belong.

    “..with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia.”

    Yes, exactly, something more meaty than the old “family of nations” concept after 1648, and not only military in scope. And definitely including Russia, to heal the fracture of “the West” after WWII.

    I think Islam is resurgent for three reasons: they have acquired technological prowess from the ‘the West’, they (at least some Middle Eastern ones) have lots of money and a way to build networks (mosque/schools), and they think their faith/worldview is valuable (particularly against what they see as a decadent West). So yes, the drive to conquer is there (infiltration being a time-honored way of starting conquest).

    But here’s some good news about “The other Europe”, the beginning of a good answer. (Bear with the catholic site, the arguments are not religious and the little map is quite interesting. And the link too.)

    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2017/06/01/the-other-europe/

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    they think their faith/worldview is valuable (particularly against what they see as a decadent West).
     
    I get what you're saying Veritatis, but things have become rather complicated in the West.

    One of the problems that I try to explain to the many Christians in my family is that as they lose every fight with the secular left, I try to explain to them that scripture simply isn't a valid argument in the courts and academia anymore. So when the GLOB tells you that homos must be allowed to get married, there's no argument from scripture that is going to hold water. It's not like the old days when you could turn to Leviticus 20:13 and read what it says and have the whole congregation agree. The fact is that scripture is often true and beautiful on a poetic level, but can not be considered infallible by everybody, including non-Christians in this day in age of science and technology. Yes?

    So the arguments for a more traditional culture have to come from a secular understanding of human nature and the nature of humans, if they're going to have any weight in the court rooms and Ivory Towers of the West.

    This is just one of the challenges of using a return to scripture as a bulwark against the encroachment of the fiend. We need secular reasons for a sound immigration policy. We need secular reasons for opposing the radical LGBT agenda. Saying Jesus doesn't like it, may sooth Christian sensibilities, but it won't ultimately sway the jury in this day in age.

    God bless.

    ~ One day I'd like to write at length about such issues, but I confess the weight of them, and how they're wrought with emotions and relationships- make it a difficult area of discussion.
  84. The American Empire is going to crack up like all Empires do in the end under its very own weight!

    April 08, 2016 U.S. Government Accounting Is Fraudulent

    The Government Accountability Office (GAO) is the non-partisan auditor and investigator for Congress. The GAO says that the U.S. government’s records are so poorly kept that it can’t really audit them. Moreover, the Pentagon hasn’t even attempted to comply with government audits … and “$8.5 trillion in taxpayer money doled out by Congress to the Pentagon [between] 1996 [and 2013] has never been accounted for.” The military wastes and “loses” trillions of dollars.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-government-accounting-is-fraudulent/5519261

    Feb 11, 2014 Corporatocracy: How the Corporate Welfare State Divides and Conquers

    A small, readily-identifiable ruling oligarchy that no serious political observer denies the existence of is able to keep the public from attacking it by dividing them along ideological grounds so that the public spends all their time arguing over definitions and splitting doctrinal hairs instead of attacking the commonly acknowledged enemy. You couldn’t ask for a more perfect system of control.

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  85. @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    what are the chances that Sweden would have been on friendly terms with the Ottomans had Sweden shared a border with them?
     
    Given that Sweden was not on friendly terms even with Christian neighbors or that the Ottomans were also often fighting their Muslim neighbors - not much. It was a marriage of convenience for sure. My only point being that Sweden had a history with the Ottomans and a not-so-unfriendly one at that. I mean, you don't risk war with Russia in order to protect a guy you don't get along with.

    “their” Balkan territories? Or Christian, European lands that they took though force or arms and occupied?
     
    Both - that was the time of empires, when you took territories by force. All large nations did so at the time - again see King Carl's multiple attempts. The Ottoman's weren't unique in this regard and the fact that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental. They expanded into rival Muslim territory when possible too.

    He got what was coming to him in Norway.
     
    Live by the sword...

    that you must feel the same way. No?
     
    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc - give them the boot or...well...it still boggles my mind that the Swedes and other Europeans don't have the death penalty.

    Peace.

    that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental.

    I sort of agree with this

    they didn’t go for the religious conversions, that was as you point out, incidental. Rather the reason they advanced upon Europe is for the same thing men have been killing other men for since the beginning of time – their land and the plunder in human spoils.

    Muslims have historically had a very high regard for European slaves/flesh and janissaries

    so yea, I agree, it was incidental. Just as the reason the Muslims and other Africans are pouring into Sweden. It’s isn’t to *convert* the locals, that’s for sure.

    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc –

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers and then just wait until they actually get caught committing crimes before they send a few packing?

    there are entire areas that are verboten to ethnic Swedes in Sweden. Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?

    peace

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    Hey Rurik,

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers
     
    Nope.

    Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?
     
    Nope - hostiles are hostiles. Though I would make a case that one should understand those that good and honest people versus those that act like vermin. I'm not into collective punishment.

    I actually don't think this would have been necessary had the Swedes done things right. I think Sweden made a huge error in two major areas:
    1) Importing a large number of people at once
    2) Not understanding the people it was importing

    For #2 - I often see that there are a lot of youth (say from Somalia) causing a lot of trouble and rioting and I think - where are their elders? In a tribal and patriarchal people like the Somalis, the tribal elders are the ones who keep their young men in check. You only need to work with the elders and the rest will follow. In Sweden, it looks almost like they imported a bunch of single mothers (possibly widows) with kids - a horrible combo without the men since it will produce much of the same results like we see in American urban ghettos. Had the Swedes planned it correctly, they could have brought in the structure of the Somalis that keeps them stable and none of the policing would likely even be needed. The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don't go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones. Whatever policy they tried to apply (possibly out of very good intentions) is seriously malfunctioning.

    Peace.
  86. @Veritatis
    "..with a loose alliance among traditionally Western nations including of course Russia."

    Yes, exactly, something more meaty than the old "family of nations" concept after 1648, and not only military in scope. And definitely including Russia, to heal the fracture of "the West" after WWII.

    I think Islam is resurgent for three reasons: they have acquired technological prowess from the 'the West', they (at least some Middle Eastern ones) have lots of money and a way to build networks (mosque/schools), and they think their faith/worldview is valuable (particularly against what they see as a decadent West). So yes, the drive to conquer is there (infiltration being a time-honored way of starting conquest).

    But here's some good news about "The other Europe", the beginning of a good answer. (Bear with the catholic site, the arguments are not religious and the little map is quite interesting. And the link too.)
    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2017/06/01/the-other-europe/

    they think their faith/worldview is valuable (particularly against what they see as a decadent West).

    I get what you’re saying Veritatis, but things have become rather complicated in the West.

    One of the problems that I try to explain to the many Christians in my family is that as they lose every fight with the secular left, I try to explain to them that scripture simply isn’t a valid argument in the courts and academia anymore. So when the GLOB tells you that homos must be allowed to get married, there’s no argument from scripture that is going to hold water. It’s not like the old days when you could turn to Leviticus 20:13 and read what it says and have the whole congregation agree. The fact is that scripture is often true and beautiful on a poetic level, but can not be considered infallible by everybody, including non-Christians in this day in age of science and technology. Yes?

    So the arguments for a more traditional culture have to come from a secular understanding of human nature and the nature of humans, if they’re going to have any weight in the court rooms and Ivory Towers of the West.

    This is just one of the challenges of using a return to scripture as a bulwark against the encroachment of the fiend. We need secular reasons for a sound immigration policy. We need secular reasons for opposing the radical LGBT agenda. Saying Jesus doesn’t like it, may sooth Christian sensibilities, but it won’t ultimately sway the jury in this day in age.

    God bless.

    ~ One day I’d like to write at length about such issues, but I confess the weight of them, and how they’re wrought with emotions and relationships- make it a difficult area of discussion.

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  87. My esteemed Rurik. There was not a single Bible quote in the article cited. It was about how the Visegrad countries had, through family-centric policies, been able to reverse the trends in birth rates, and are aiming for population stability around 2030 (Hungary)

    It is a truism of political science that a people cannot hold a territory without (enough) population.

    The battle for Europe is essentially demographic. (Controlling the borders is necessary in the short term of course). A useful first step is promoting the natural family. The arguments are many, and can be grounded in right reason. No need to use the Bible. A second useful step would be electing leaders with a stake in the future, i.e. children, since neither Macron, nor Merkel, May, Rutte, Gentilioni, Lövfen, Bettel, Nicola Sturgeon or Jean Claude Juncker have any, and some think Muslim immigration is actually good population replacement.

    In the medium term, there’s that pesky matter of how to rebuild ‘the West’s’ identity, and bring back a sense of responsibility, a spirit of service and pride to its people. Something along the lines of “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” (Children also help focus the mind in that direction).

    People on this site tend to think “God and King” are not useful anymore. I disagree. But there is still “Country” to rally around. The attack on that institution is recent, driven by mass media and academe, and can be reversed using those same channels. We are social creatures, and for good or ill, very susceptible to collective thinking.

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    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Oh yeah. It was always best to leave the rest of the world alone except to trade with and to maybe visit.

    But our Puritan streak just wouldn't let that happen. Of course, these days, it's not the WASPs who are responsible for U.S. foreign policy. Either way, we would have been better off minding our own business.

    A million times better off.

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  89. @European-American
    > How exactly is America “defending” Germany?
    > What country is threatening to attack Germany?

    The obvious and thousands-of-year-old answer to your question is:

    defending Germany and Europe against threats from the East, such as Russia, the Islamic world, and China.

    Whether the US should be almost singlehandedly responsible for doing that is another question, to which I would happily say no.

    You need to have your head examined. When was the last time Russia invaded Germany? For the Islamic world – they are easy to handle if only the Germans would smarten up. Germany is under threat from China? Really? And for all this imaginary threats, would US really be the best country that Germany can rely on for defense? How can you defend someone who is better than you militarily? Historically, Germany always had better armed forces than US. Even today. US only has better navy and air force, and you can’t win wars by those alone. At least you can’t win wars that matter. The greatest wars are ALWAYS fought on land, which is where US sucks.

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    I see from your commenting history that you enjoy ad hominem attacks, which makes it hard to read what you say. But anyway, I suspect we mostly agree.

    I don't think the US should be in charge of permanently defending Germany, though there are certainly historical reasons for the current situation there and in Japan. I was just answering the question, what is the US supposed to be doing in Germany? I do think the threats the US would cite would be, in order, Russia, terrorism, and China. The first two are constantly mentioned threats. I'd say the threat from Russia is bafflingly exaggerated, but it certainly is invoked a lot. China is, I guess, only a threat to Germany and Europe in a long-term, global, economic, and maybe espionage sense. A final justification would be of of the "world policeman" / Empire sort.

    Generally I was just noting that "the threat from the East (and South)" has been a geographical and historical constant in Europe for thousands of years. Not super clear how this should relate to the US, though.

    Would you mind avoiding insulting comments in the future? Otherwise I'll just add you to the "commenters to ignore" list. A rather nice feature, but fortunately so far I have almost never had to use it, as commenters are generally respectful of each other.

  90. @James N. Kennett
    If Europeans have had a free ride, at least they don't dictate US policy. Saudi Arabia may want America and Iran to fight, but such a war would not serve any conceivable American interest.

    More than the Saudis, it the Israelis that want Iran bombed. Israel always have an offer the US can’t refuse. It is like the classic case of the tail wagging the dog as Brother Nathaniel puts it quite clearly.

    I really wish the Gulf Arab monarchies become more open about their back channel ‘outreach’ to Tel Aviv (since they know that to coerce the US, they have to look towards where DC looks up to and that’s just next door you know!). The whole disingenuous facade of being against Israel purely for the consumption of the local populace would unravel so beautifully, it would be like rich chocolate cake with hot coffee on a really cold windy day!!!

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  91. @Cyrano
    You need to have your head examined. When was the last time Russia invaded Germany? For the Islamic world - they are easy to handle if only the Germans would smarten up. Germany is under threat from China? Really? And for all this imaginary threats, would US really be the best country that Germany can rely on for defense? How can you defend someone who is better than you militarily? Historically, Germany always had better armed forces than US. Even today. US only has better navy and air force, and you can't win wars by those alone. At least you can't win wars that matter. The greatest wars are ALWAYS fought on land, which is where US sucks.

    I see from your commenting history that you enjoy ad hominem attacks, which makes it hard to read what you say. But anyway, I suspect we mostly agree.

    I don’t think the US should be in charge of permanently defending Germany, though there are certainly historical reasons for the current situation there and in Japan. I was just answering the question, what is the US supposed to be doing in Germany? I do think the threats the US would cite would be, in order, Russia, terrorism, and China. The first two are constantly mentioned threats. I’d say the threat from Russia is bafflingly exaggerated, but it certainly is invoked a lot. China is, I guess, only a threat to Germany and Europe in a long-term, global, economic, and maybe espionage sense. A final justification would be of of the “world policeman” / Empire sort.

    Generally I was just noting that “the threat from the East (and South)” has been a geographical and historical constant in Europe for thousands of years. Not super clear how this should relate to the US, though.

    Would you mind avoiding insulting comments in the future? Otherwise I’ll just add you to the “commenters to ignore” list. A rather nice feature, but fortunately so far I have almost never had to use it, as commenters are generally respectful of each other.

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    I think you missed my main point though. US self-appointment as "protector" of Germany through NATO is like Mike Tyson hiring Richard Simmons to be his bodyguard. I doubt it that you'll get the point again. Put me on your "commenters to ignore list". I don't intend to comment on anything you have to say again.
  92. @European-American
    I see from your commenting history that you enjoy ad hominem attacks, which makes it hard to read what you say. But anyway, I suspect we mostly agree.

    I don't think the US should be in charge of permanently defending Germany, though there are certainly historical reasons for the current situation there and in Japan. I was just answering the question, what is the US supposed to be doing in Germany? I do think the threats the US would cite would be, in order, Russia, terrorism, and China. The first two are constantly mentioned threats. I'd say the threat from Russia is bafflingly exaggerated, but it certainly is invoked a lot. China is, I guess, only a threat to Germany and Europe in a long-term, global, economic, and maybe espionage sense. A final justification would be of of the "world policeman" / Empire sort.

    Generally I was just noting that "the threat from the East (and South)" has been a geographical and historical constant in Europe for thousands of years. Not super clear how this should relate to the US, though.

    Would you mind avoiding insulting comments in the future? Otherwise I'll just add you to the "commenters to ignore" list. A rather nice feature, but fortunately so far I have almost never had to use it, as commenters are generally respectful of each other.

    I think you missed my main point though. US self-appointment as “protector” of Germany through NATO is like Mike Tyson hiring Richard Simmons to be his bodyguard. I doubt it that you’ll get the point again. Put me on your “commenters to ignore list”. I don’t intend to comment on anything you have to say again.

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  93. @Rurik

    that they were conquering Christian territory was incidental.
     
    I sort of agree with this

    they didn't go for the religious conversions, that was as you point out, incidental. Rather the reason they advanced upon Europe is for the same thing men have been killing other men for since the beginning of time - their land and the plunder in human spoils.

    Muslims have historically had a very high regard for European slaves/flesh and janissaries

    so yea, I agree, it was incidental. Just as the reason the Muslims and other Africans are pouring into Sweden. It's isn't to *convert* the locals, that's for sure.


    Sure, anybody who acts like an orc –

     

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers and then just wait until they actually get caught committing crimes before they send a few packing?

    there are entire areas that are verboten to ethnic Swedes in Sweden. Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?


    peace

    Hey Rurik,

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers

    Nope.

    Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?

    Nope – hostiles are hostiles. Though I would make a case that one should understand those that good and honest people versus those that act like vermin. I’m not into collective punishment.

    I actually don’t think this would have been necessary had the Swedes done things right. I think Sweden made a huge error in two major areas:
    1) Importing a large number of people at once
    2) Not understanding the people it was importing

    For #2 – I often see that there are a lot of youth (say from Somalia) causing a lot of trouble and rioting and I think – where are their elders? In a tribal and patriarchal people like the Somalis, the tribal elders are the ones who keep their young men in check. You only need to work with the elders and the rest will follow. In Sweden, it looks almost like they imported a bunch of single mothers (possibly widows) with kids – a horrible combo without the men since it will produce much of the same results like we see in American urban ghettos. Had the Swedes planned it correctly, they could have brought in the structure of the Somalis that keeps them stable and none of the policing would likely even be needed. The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don’t go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones. Whatever policy they tried to apply (possibly out of very good intentions) is seriously malfunctioning.

    Peace.

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    The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don’t go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones
     
    If you bring Somalians, you'll have Somali. They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death.
    If you want China-town bring Chinese instead :)
  94. @European-American
    You forgot France, which spends more than 2% on defense, and more than the U.K., which now spends less than 2%.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

    Thank you for correction!

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  95. @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    but is it prudent for Sweden to allow them to come in transformational numbers
     
    Nope.

    Would you consider me intemperate if I advocated encircling such enemy territory with the Swedish police or military and pacifying and rounding up all the hostiles, and then shipping them home en masse?
     
    Nope - hostiles are hostiles. Though I would make a case that one should understand those that good and honest people versus those that act like vermin. I'm not into collective punishment.

    I actually don't think this would have been necessary had the Swedes done things right. I think Sweden made a huge error in two major areas:
    1) Importing a large number of people at once
    2) Not understanding the people it was importing

    For #2 - I often see that there are a lot of youth (say from Somalia) causing a lot of trouble and rioting and I think - where are their elders? In a tribal and patriarchal people like the Somalis, the tribal elders are the ones who keep their young men in check. You only need to work with the elders and the rest will follow. In Sweden, it looks almost like they imported a bunch of single mothers (possibly widows) with kids - a horrible combo without the men since it will produce much of the same results like we see in American urban ghettos. Had the Swedes planned it correctly, they could have brought in the structure of the Somalis that keeps them stable and none of the policing would likely even be needed. The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don't go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones. Whatever policy they tried to apply (possibly out of very good intentions) is seriously malfunctioning.

    Peace.

    The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don’t go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones

    If you bring Somalians, you’ll have Somali. They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death.
    If you want China-town bring Chinese instead :)

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    Hey Medvedev,

    If the elders chose to implement that in the no go zones to keep their youth in check, possibly. Why is that a problem if a bunch of criminal Somali immigrants are culled from the herd by their own people?

    Peace.
  96. @Medvedev

    The government would then make sure it works with the elders to ensure the youth don’t go out of control and that these areas become more like China-town instead of no-go zones
     
    If you bring Somalians, you'll have Somali. They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death.
    If you want China-town bring Chinese instead :)

    Hey Medvedev,

    If the elders chose to implement that in the no go zones to keep their youth in check, possibly. Why is that a problem if a bunch of criminal Somali immigrants are culled from the herd by their own people?

    Peace.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Because, well, the Swedes can do what they like about Stockholm, but most Western cities can do without a Casbah: https://youtu.be/gBID6E00Quk?t=175 .
    , @Medvedev
    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia. Not the other way around. So, if the whore (that's how they view Western women) were raped, do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care? In fact, they are the ones who condone such behavior and hatred, like Omar Mateen's father, who spewed hatred towards gay people right after 100 were massacred by his son.
    They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death. Which reiterates my statement: "If you bring Somalians, you’ll have Somali." Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws. They can stay in Somalia and enjoy all of it or try to sneak in to Saudi Arabia.
  97. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Talha
    Hey Medvedev,

    If the elders chose to implement that in the no go zones to keep their youth in check, possibly. Why is that a problem if a bunch of criminal Somali immigrants are culled from the herd by their own people?

    Peace.

    Because, well, the Swedes can do what they like about Stockholm, but most Western cities can do without a Casbah: https://youtu.be/gBID6E00Quk?t=175 .

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  98. @Talha
    Hey Medvedev,

    If the elders chose to implement that in the no go zones to keep their youth in check, possibly. Why is that a problem if a bunch of criminal Somali immigrants are culled from the herd by their own people?

    Peace.

    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia. Not the other way around. So, if the whore (that’s how they view Western women) were raped, do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care? In fact, they are the ones who condone such behavior and hatred, like Omar Mateen’s father, who spewed hatred towards gay people right after 100 were massacred by his son.
    They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death. Which reiterates my statement: “If you bring Somalians, you’ll have Somali.” Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws. They can stay in Somalia and enjoy all of it or try to sneak in to Saudi Arabia.

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    Hey Medvedev,

    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia
     
    Yeah - this is a big problem - especially acute since they have had war for quite a long time. Though from what I have read, it is getting better enough that some Somalis are going back - maybe this trend should be encouraged.
    http://www.startribune.com/more-minnesota-somalis-go-back-to-a-slowly-rebuilding-somalia/288159251/

    do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care?
     
    They don't need to. They would be set up with privileged positions in the community with support from the host government with the understanding that their performance is based on metrics from their community. They will either lose their perks and position or - worse - be held liable for their inability to control their youth. You have to give them incentive to act.

    Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws.
     
    When your country is in a civil war - you don't care.

    Peace.
  99. @Medvedev
    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia. Not the other way around. So, if the whore (that's how they view Western women) were raped, do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care? In fact, they are the ones who condone such behavior and hatred, like Omar Mateen's father, who spewed hatred towards gay people right after 100 were massacred by his son.
    They will only behave if you have strict punishment and Sharia Laws: cutting hands for stealing, chopping off heads, stoning to death. Which reiterates my statement: "If you bring Somalians, you’ll have Somali." Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws. They can stay in Somalia and enjoy all of it or try to sneak in to Saudi Arabia.

    Hey Medvedev,

    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia

    Yeah – this is a big problem – especially acute since they have had war for quite a long time. Though from what I have read, it is getting better enough that some Somalis are going back – maybe this trend should be encouraged.

    http://www.startribune.com/more-minnesota-somalis-go-back-to-a-slowly-rebuilding-somalia/288159251/

    do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care?

    They don’t need to. They would be set up with privileged positions in the community with support from the host government with the understanding that their performance is based on metrics from their community. They will either lose their perks and position or – worse – be held liable for their inability to control their youth. You have to give them incentive to act.

    Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws.

    When your country is in a civil war – you don’t care.

    Peace.

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    When your country is in a civil war – you don’t care.
     
    Then they should be grateful, respect and abide laws and traditions of the host country. Otherwise, they can stay in Somalia and enjoy all of it or try to sneak in to Saudi Arabia. I don't have anything against Sharia law in a Muslim country, lets say Saudi Arabia. It's their country and their laws. If I ever had to visit such a country, I would abide and respect their laws and traditions.
    I did get your point, although I do not completely agree with it.
  100. @Avery
    {Why does Merkel think that USA is obligated to defend them, but Germany ....}

    Obligated to defend from what?
    Which country or countries are going to invade Germany?
    The answer is "None".

    NATO may have served a legitimate purpose to counter the Warsaw Pact (...even that is dubious....), but now its only purpose is to create trouble all over the world at the behest of US Globalists.

    NATO is an instrument of US imperial Globalist interests, nothing more.
    NATO can't or won't even defend West Europe - core of NATO - from massive unarmed invasion of 'refugees', but continues provoking Russia, hoping for a hot war.

    Obligated to defend from what?
    Which country or countries are going to invade Germany?

    According to NATO doctrine aggression against one state is aggression against all members of NATO, hence USA is obligated to defend in a hypothetical event. Whether there is a threat is irrelevant, Germany and other European members have to spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense.

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  101. @Talha
    Hey Medvedev,

    Even if respected woman gets raped she may face jail time and even be stoned to death in countries like Somalia
     
    Yeah - this is a big problem - especially acute since they have had war for quite a long time. Though from what I have read, it is getting better enough that some Somalis are going back - maybe this trend should be encouraged.
    http://www.startribune.com/more-minnesota-somalis-go-back-to-a-slowly-rebuilding-somalia/288159251/

    do you think a lot of elder Somalis would care?
     
    They don't need to. They would be set up with privileged positions in the community with support from the host government with the understanding that their performance is based on metrics from their community. They will either lose their perks and position or - worse - be held liable for their inability to control their youth. You have to give them incentive to act.

    Why bother coming to a Western country if they want to adhere to their traditions, culture and laws.
     
    When your country is in a civil war - you don't care.

    Peace.

    When your country is in a civil war – you don’t care.

    Then they should be grateful, respect and abide laws and traditions of the host country. Otherwise, they can stay in Somalia and enjoy all of it or try to sneak in to Saudi Arabia. I don’t have anything against Sharia law in a Muslim country, lets say Saudi Arabia. It’s their country and their laws. If I ever had to visit such a country, I would abide and respect their laws and traditions.
    I did get your point, although I do not completely agree with it.

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  102. @Daniel Chieh
    Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained.

    “Those desperate leftie sympathies coming out, eh? Highly entertained.”

    No. What I advocate are referred to sensible moderate policies, not leftist or rightest agendas. You be confused.

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