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At the G-7 summit in Canada, President Donald Trump described America as “the piggy bank that everybody is robbing.”

After he left Quebec, his director of Trade and Industrial Policy, Peter Navarro, added a few parting words for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau:

“There’s a special place in hell for any foreign leader that engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Donald J. Trump and then tries to stab him in the back on the way out the door. … And that’s … what weak, dishonest Justin Trudeau did. And that comes right from Air Force One.”

In Singapore, Trump tweeted more about that piggy bank.

“Why should I, as President of the United States, allow countries to continue to make Massive Trade Surpluses, as they have for decades … (while) the U.S. pays close to the entire cost of NATO-protecting many of these same countries that rip us off on Trade?”

To understand what drives Trump, and explains his exasperation and anger, these remarks are a good place to begin.

Our elites see America as an “indispensable nation,” the premier world power whose ordained duty it is to defend democracy, stand up to dictators and aggressors, and uphold a liberal world order.

They see U.S. wealth and power as splendid tools that fate has given them to shape the future of the planet.

Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.

Where our elites live to play masters of the universe, Trump sees a world laughing behind America’s back, while allies exploit our magnanimity and idealism for their own national ends.

The numbers are impossible to refute and hard to explain.

Last year, the EU had a $151 billion trade surplus with the U.S. China ran a $376 billion trade surplus with the U.S., the largest in history. The world sold us $796 billion more in goods than we sold to the world.

A nation that spends more than it takes in from taxes, and consumes more of the world’s goods than it produces itself for export, year in and year out, is a nation on the way down.

We are emulating our British cousins of the 19th century.

Trump understands that this situation is not sustainable. His strength is that the people are still with him on putting America first.

Yet he faces some serious obstacles.

What is his strategy for turning a $796 billion trade deficit into a surplus? Is he prepared to impose the tariffs and import restrictions that would be required to turn America from the greatest trade-deficit nation in history to a trade-surplus nation, as we were up until the mid-1970s?

Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West, and of fighting the terrorists and radical Islamists of the Middle East, and of protecting South Korea and Japan.

ORDER IT NOW

But if our NATO and Asian allies refuse to make the increases in defense he demands, is Trump really willing to cancel our treaty commitments, walk away from our war guarantees, and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? Could he cut that umbilical cord?

Ike’s Secretary of State John Foster Dulles spoke of conducting an “agonizing reappraisal” of U.S. commitments to defend NATO allies, if they did not contribute more money and troops.

Dulles died in 1959, and that reappraisal, threatened 60 years ago, never happened. Indeed, when the Cold War ended, out NATO allies cut defense spending again. Yet we are still subsidizing NATO in Europe and have taken on new allies since the Soviet Empire fell.

If Europe refuses to invest the money in defense Trump demands, or accept the tariffs America needs to reduce and erase its trade deficits, what does he do? Is he prepared to shut U.S. bases and pull U.S. troops out of the Baltic republics, Poland and Germany, and let the Europeans face Vladimir Putin and Russia themselves?

This is not an academic question. For the crunch that was inevitable when Trump was elected seems at hand.

He promised to negotiate with Putin and improve relations with Russia. He promised to force our NATO allies to undertake more of their own defense. He pledged to get out and stay out of Mideast wars, and begin to slash the trade deficits that we have run with the world.

And that’s what America voted for.

Now, after 500 days, he faces formidable opposition to these defining goals of his campaign, even within his own party.

Putin remains a pariah on Capitol Hill. Our allies are rejecting the tariffs Trump has imposed and threatening retaliation. Free trade Republicans reject tariffs that might raise the cost of the items U.S. companies makes abroad and then ships back to the United States.

The decisive battles between Trumpian nationalism and globalism remain ahead of us. Trump’s critical tests have yet to come.

And our exasperated president senses this.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

Copyright 2018 Creators.com.

 
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  1. Milton says:

    Wake me up when Trump cancels the billions in foreign aid to the butchers in Israel and Saudi Arabia and returns it to the American working class from which it was stolen. Until that happens, until Trump musters the courage to say “no” to Israel and Saudi Arabia, nothing will change and nothing can change for the better in America. Until that happens, America is and will remain an Israeli-Saudi colony.

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    What foreign aid is given to Saudi Arabia?

    To the contrary Saudi Arabia purchases gigantic amounts of American arms at frankly extortionate prices.

    You are of course right on the money about Israel.
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  2. JamesD says:

    “Stabbing in the back” etc… did not reference the press conference. Something else went down. The BIG question is WHY doesn’t Justin cut a deal with the US? The trade deficit with Canada is tiny, so cutting a deal would be easy for both sides. We did one with South Korea in a few weeks, and have a much bigger deficit with them.

    So what is going on with Canada? Is Justin virtue signaling by standing with Mexico over NAFTA? Is he trying to kiss-up to the EU? Canada’s actions don’t make any sense.

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    • Replies: @CalDre

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.
     
    Free ride on our defense effort? It's all offense, bud. Who's being defended? And there's certainly no "free ride" - these countries have given up their sovereignty. Germany is an occupied country. As to trade practices, those are all of US making. Who let China into WTO? Who supports its currency peg? Who made the US dollar the world's reserve currency? Sure, it's all Hitler's fault.

    Buchanan despite his pretensions is still an ethnocentric American exceptionalist SOB. He somehow convinces his Imperial self that US stationing its troops in other countries and blackmailing them constantly with military, economic and other threats is doing them a favor. Yeah, just like the Bolsheviks did the kulaks favors by ridding them of their burdensome cows.

    Where our elites live to play masters of the universe, Trump sees a world laughing behind America’s back, while allies exploit our magnanimity and idealism for their own national ends.
     
    Magnanimity and idealism? Fuck you, Buchanan, you deluded asshole. US fucking murders millions around the world for no reason, blackmails others, destroys countries, etc. You fucking cunt, Buchanan, you fucking nasty cunt.
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  3. Adrian_E says:

    Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat).

    The US is certainly welcome to close its bases in Europe, and apart from some local businesses around the US bases very few Europeans will regret when they are gone.

    The idea that when the US closes its foreign military bases, Europeans would have to spend more on its military is completely nonsensical. The European NATO countries already spend significantly more on their militaries than Russia, and when comparing the numbers of military aiplanes and other categories of military equipment, on a basis of comparisons with other significant powers like China and Russia, the equipment of Western European militaries is certainly sufficient. It is not sufficient for dangerous idea about world dominations (full spectrum dominance) the bipartisan maniacs that control the US have, but it is certainly more than adequate for what the militaries should be for – defense and deterrence of attacks.

    Of course, the US strategy to make Europeans afraid of Russia in order to keep them dependent on the US is obvious, but surveys in countries like Germany, France, and Italy show that this strategy has been a complete failure and a vast majority of Europeans don‘t see Russia as a threat (Poland and the Baltic states are an exception, for historical reasons, they have been hostile towards Russia for a long time, and this is also exploied by the US for dividing the EU on foreign policy issues).

    In the US, some people have the absurd notion that Europeans would be afraid if the US left its military bases. The real situation is rather that these US military bases and the drone wars and surveillance actions conducted via them are quite unpopular. European governments do not have the courage to ask the US to leave, yet, but if the US announced they wanted to leave their military bases in Eueope, European governments certainly would not beg them to stay (and if a government did, that would make it unpopular domestically). Many Europeans see the US as a semi-hostile power, anyway, with recent developments that „semi“ comes closer to being dropped. And certainly, very few European politicians would advocate a drastic increase of military expenses in Europe after the departure of US troops from the current sensible level to the kind of insane overspending on the military we see in the US. A political programme for more military expenses for the price of dilapidated domestic infrastructure and impoverished social welfare may be successful in the US oligarchy, but, even though the European countries are not perfect democracies either, there, such a program would clearly make any party or politician who advanced it fail.

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    Completely agree. America is welcome to pack up all its troops in Europe and disband NATO, as far as I’m concerned. The Cold War died three decades ago and we’re not worried about godless Rooskie Commies invading us.
    Europe’s major problem is the mass importation of millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent, many of whom wish us slaughtered and a Caliphate put in place. Our pusillanimous, incompetent, inept politicians are unwilling or unable to resolve this ongoing catastrophe and the presence, or otherwise, of US troops is irrelevant.
    I honestly wish Putin was leader of my own country.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Good comment! The excess military spending of the U.S. might be thought of as a premium to be able to keep Western European nations in a form of vassalage. Better if the U.S. concentrated on North America and let the Europeans arrange matters themselves. Let the Poles and the Balts convince the Germans, French and British that Russia really is a threat.
    , @Corvinus
    "Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat)."

    Sources?

    Because it would seem this source counters the narrative.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/24/how-do-european-countries-really-see-russia/
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  4. Yee says:

    “and of protecting South Korea and Japan. … and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? ”

    Japan invaded Korea 3 times in history, in Tang, Ming and Qing dynasty. Everytime China sent army to help the Koreans to fight the Japanese, first 2 times China won and Korea had peace, the last time Japan won and Korea end up a Japanese colony until the end of WW2. And then the US and the SU split the country into 2.

    I can’t understand why the author repeatedly paint Japan and Korea as the potential victims of China. Honestly, why would China want 2 densely populated little countries without natural resources? Japan wanted Korea because Japan is an lsland and Korea is the stepping stone to the continent.

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    Japan invaded Korea 3 times in history, in Tang, Ming and Qing dynasty.
     
    Japan didn't invade circa Tang. That was a war for unification on the Korean peninsula among the 3 Korean kingdoms and each called on their allies in support of their campaigns.

    I can’t understand why the author repeatedly paint Japan and Korea as the potential victims of China.
     
    I think Buchanan is referring to NKorea. But being the smart guy he is, Buchanan is probably playing to the common narrative, just as he knows that America "carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West" against "terrorists" is mostly boloney.

    densely populated little countries without natural resources
     
    Isn't that a description of much of NE Asia?
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  5. ians says:
    @Adrian_E
    Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat).

    The US is certainly welcome to close its bases in Europe, and apart from some local businesses around the US bases very few Europeans will regret when they are gone.

    The idea that when the US closes its foreign military bases, Europeans would have to spend more on its military is completely nonsensical. The European NATO countries already spend significantly more on their militaries than Russia, and when comparing the numbers of military aiplanes and other categories of military equipment, on a basis of comparisons with other significant powers like China and Russia, the equipment of Western European militaries is certainly sufficient. It is not sufficient for dangerous idea about world dominations (full spectrum dominance) the bipartisan maniacs that control the US have, but it is certainly more than adequate for what the militaries should be for - defense and deterrence of attacks.

    Of course, the US strategy to make Europeans afraid of Russia in order to keep them dependent on the US is obvious, but surveys in countries like Germany, France, and Italy show that this strategy has been a complete failure and a vast majority of Europeans don‘t see Russia as a threat (Poland and the Baltic states are an exception, for historical reasons, they have been hostile towards Russia for a long time, and this is also exploied by the US for dividing the EU on foreign policy issues).

    In the US, some people have the absurd notion that Europeans would be afraid if the US left its military bases. The real situation is rather that these US military bases and the drone wars and surveillance actions conducted via them are quite unpopular. European governments do not have the courage to ask the US to leave, yet, but if the US announced they wanted to leave their military bases in Eueope, European governments certainly would not beg them to stay (and if a government did, that would make it unpopular domestically). Many Europeans see the US as a semi-hostile power, anyway, with recent developments that „semi“ comes closer to being dropped. And certainly, very few European politicians would advocate a drastic increase of military expenses in Europe after the departure of US troops from the current sensible level to the kind of insane overspending on the military we see in the US. A political programme for more military expenses for the price of dilapidated domestic infrastructure and impoverished social welfare may be successful in the US oligarchy, but, even though the European countries are not perfect democracies either, there, such a program would clearly make any party or politician who advanced it fail.

    Completely agree. America is welcome to pack up all its troops in Europe and disband NATO, as far as I’m concerned. The Cold War died three decades ago and we’re not worried about godless Rooskie Commies invading us.
    Europe’s major problem is the mass importation of millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent, many of whom wish us slaughtered and a Caliphate put in place. Our pusillanimous, incompetent, inept politicians are unwilling or unable to resolve this ongoing catastrophe and the presence, or otherwise, of US troops is irrelevant.
    I honestly wish Putin was leader of my own country.

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    ' millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent' ; who are fleeing from the chaos created by the Israeli instigated, US initiated wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia and who knows where else.
    Before these wars, there were no refugees and no influx.
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  6. @Adrian_E
    Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat).

    The US is certainly welcome to close its bases in Europe, and apart from some local businesses around the US bases very few Europeans will regret when they are gone.

    The idea that when the US closes its foreign military bases, Europeans would have to spend more on its military is completely nonsensical. The European NATO countries already spend significantly more on their militaries than Russia, and when comparing the numbers of military aiplanes and other categories of military equipment, on a basis of comparisons with other significant powers like China and Russia, the equipment of Western European militaries is certainly sufficient. It is not sufficient for dangerous idea about world dominations (full spectrum dominance) the bipartisan maniacs that control the US have, but it is certainly more than adequate for what the militaries should be for - defense and deterrence of attacks.

    Of course, the US strategy to make Europeans afraid of Russia in order to keep them dependent on the US is obvious, but surveys in countries like Germany, France, and Italy show that this strategy has been a complete failure and a vast majority of Europeans don‘t see Russia as a threat (Poland and the Baltic states are an exception, for historical reasons, they have been hostile towards Russia for a long time, and this is also exploied by the US for dividing the EU on foreign policy issues).

    In the US, some people have the absurd notion that Europeans would be afraid if the US left its military bases. The real situation is rather that these US military bases and the drone wars and surveillance actions conducted via them are quite unpopular. European governments do not have the courage to ask the US to leave, yet, but if the US announced they wanted to leave their military bases in Eueope, European governments certainly would not beg them to stay (and if a government did, that would make it unpopular domestically). Many Europeans see the US as a semi-hostile power, anyway, with recent developments that „semi“ comes closer to being dropped. And certainly, very few European politicians would advocate a drastic increase of military expenses in Europe after the departure of US troops from the current sensible level to the kind of insane overspending on the military we see in the US. A political programme for more military expenses for the price of dilapidated domestic infrastructure and impoverished social welfare may be successful in the US oligarchy, but, even though the European countries are not perfect democracies either, there, such a program would clearly make any party or politician who advanced it fail.

    Good comment! The excess military spending of the U.S. might be thought of as a premium to be able to keep Western European nations in a form of vassalage. Better if the U.S. concentrated on North America and let the Europeans arrange matters themselves. Let the Poles and the Balts convince the Germans, French and British that Russia really is a threat.

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  7. RodW says:

    I’ve lived on two little islands at opposite ends of the Eurasian continent, both occupied by America, Britain and Japan. In both countries, popular sentiment tends towards wishing America would go home and leave the people to find their own place and prosperity in their neighbourhoods. If President Trump delivers on his threats and cuts us all loose, I’ll drink to his health.

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  8. Remember, America’s bankers and corporate leaders deliberately stabbed American workers in the back. They deliberately send American jobs overseas to get ‘labor flexibility’, which of course means not having to pay workers as much money. American politicians get payoffs in the form of contributions and post-political jobs for helping them with this.

    This is what drove the push for American companies to manufacture first in Mexico and then in China. It was great for the profits of the rich. It helped the rich get richer. But its a key reason why ordinary Americans have seen their incomes in real, inflation-adjusted, dollars steadily decline.

    I’ve long held the position that America should equalize such things at the border. If a country wants to pay its workers less than American workers, then charge a tarriff at the border to even that out. If a country is willing to trash its own environement by letting corporations pollute their country while America wants to keep America beautiful, then charge a tarriff at the border to even that out.

    Add to that the fact that America spends over a trillion US dollars a year in being the world’s policeman, by constantly fighting war after war abroad, that we’ve been subsidizing the defense of Europe, South Korea, Japan and others, then that hurts even worse.

    We send our jobs out overseas, which hurts the purchasing power of the American domestic market. And then we take a trillion dollars or more from American taxpayers and waste it on creating and fighting monsters overseas. So sad when we are willing to help finance radical Islamic terrorists in Syria, but we won’t help American citizens at home because we say America is too broke to do that.

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  9. Pepe Escobar:

    In parallel, diplomats in Brussels confirmed to Asia Times there are insistent rumbles about Trump possibly dreaming of a G3 composed of just US, Russia and China. Trump, after all, personally admires the leadership qualities of both Putin and Xi, while deriding the Kafkaesque EU bureaucratic maze and its weaklings, currently represented by the M3 (Merkel, Macron, May).

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-11/pepe-escobar-putin-xi-top-g61

    Perhaps The Donald understands that “we” can prosper by joining them or perish by fighting them?

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    diplomats in Brussels confirmed to Asia Times there are insistent rumbles about Trump possibly dreaming of a G3 composed of just US, Russia and China.
     
    Very interesting. Makes sense too.
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  10. Bach says:
    @Yee
    "and of protecting South Korea and Japan. ... and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? "

    Japan invaded Korea 3 times in history, in Tang, Ming and Qing dynasty. Everytime China sent army to help the Koreans to fight the Japanese, first 2 times China won and Korea had peace, the last time Japan won and Korea end up a Japanese colony until the end of WW2. And then the US and the SU split the country into 2.

    I can't understand why the author repeatedly paint Japan and Korea as the potential victims of China. Honestly, why would China want 2 densely populated little countries without natural resources? Japan wanted Korea because Japan is an lsland and Korea is the stepping stone to the continent.

    Japan invaded Korea 3 times in history, in Tang, Ming and Qing dynasty.

    Japan didn’t invade circa Tang. That was a war for unification on the Korean peninsula among the 3 Korean kingdoms and each called on their allies in support of their campaigns.

    I can’t understand why the author repeatedly paint Japan and Korea as the potential victims of China.

    I think Buchanan is referring to NKorea. But being the smart guy he is, Buchanan is probably playing to the common narrative, just as he knows that America “carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West” against “terrorists” is mostly boloney.

    densely populated little countries without natural resources

    Isn’t that a description of much of NE Asia?

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  11. Mr Buchanan is usually right but this time he got it the other way around. He gives the American perspective here which is fundamentally wrong. Here is why. The trade deficits are here not because Non Americans sell more to the US but because American companies prefer to produce in China where it is cheaper to produce and ship stuff back to the US hence the deficit. As for Europe, German cars and better and German machines and equipment is better than anyone else,s and that is why there is a deficit in trade.
    Now on NATO. It is an outdated myth that NATO defends Europe from Soviet Russian aggression. There is no aggression. It is all made up in Pentagon to have an excuse to keep bases in Europe because bases are jobs, money, careers, military procurement and on and on. Let us not kid ourselves, the US troops in Europe have nothing to do with the Russians and have everything to do with US world wide strategic objectives, such as have a secure base on the way to Mid East or Iran or Far East.
    US needs those bases and needs NATO for its own imperial ambitions.
    Suppose the Germans will say one day, You want to have bases on our territory pay for the privilege, here is rent price. That is why US needs to make Russia look aggressive and dangerous. Trumps aggressive push in trade and in NATO spending push will lead to Europe shaking off American tutelage. The process is on and Trump speeds it up.

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  12. Rurik says:

    Our elites see America as an “indispensable nation,” the premier world power whose ordained duty it is to defend democracy, stand up to dictators and aggressors, and uphold a liberal world order.

    laughable

    Actually our elites see America as land of vast blood and treasure to bilk and drain for serial wars of aggression all over the planet- in servile, slavish service to the world’s most murderous, villainous and iniquitous regimes. We now operate an open torture camp for just that purpose.

    That’s how we’re upholding global liberal values, by assisting Saudi Arabia with genociding by starvation hundreds of thousands of desperately impoverished people in Yemen.

    (I read about the starvation genocide of the South African farmer at the turn of the century, or the starvation of Germany at the end of the first war, or the starvation of Ukraine, or Germany again after the second war was ‘over’, and I always used to wonder at such barbarism, and yet now “we’re” doing right now, as I write this).

    Pat must type with a lot of wry in his fingers when he states that America ‘stands up to dictators and aggressors’, even as America is the foremost berserk gorilla in the living room, smashing everything in reach of ‘liberal values’. What a pathetic joke.

    I suppose Pat is being sarcastic, and it’s well played, because the momentous contrast between the truth and what he writes, the reader’s mind is sent reeling from the contradiction.

    ‘Wow, did he just say that?!’

    They see U.S. wealth and power as splendid tools that fate has given them to shape the future of the planet.

    ‘that fate has given ((them))’

    By giving credit to ‘fate’, you’re cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy.

    this is how the elites see the U.S. splendid golem

    because that is the reality, and has been for a hundred years

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.

    the previous regimes profaning the White House viscerally despise the America of Trump’s rallies.

    They set about deliberately to destroy that America, and our trade agreements and immigration policies and everything else they did was geared specifically to that end. Obama doesn’t love Mexican immigrants. Pfft. But he wants them because of how badly he (and Hillary and Maxine and the Bush crime cabal) abhor the Deplorables. It isn’t about helping Mexicans, it’s about a stake though the heart of Americana. duh

    Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West

    Defense from who or what?!

    Russia is a beacon rationality in a world menaced by the ZUS drooling fiend. China only burgeons due to trade policies designed to bolster international corporations at the direct expense of the American people. If the ZUS would favor the ‘forgotten man’ over Nike, Apple and Amazon, then China would languish in no time flat.

    Since NAFTA and before, our elites in DC and elsewhere (NYC, London, etc..) have sold out the American people to corporations, with the eager accommodation of our treasonous little scumbag$ in congress. (think Jeff Flake, Paul Ryan, et al)

    walk away from our war guarantees, and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? Could he cut that umbilical cord?

    allowing Germany to face Russia sans the demands of the ZUSA, would be like cutting a harness, not an umbilical cord.

    Europe is hogtied to the whims of the (((ZUSA/Fed/ECB))) for as long as most of them have been alive. Cutting the leash would be like freeing an entire continent that’s been under a cruel occupation for generations. For the first time in a typical German’s life, they’d be free of a zio-boot on their neck. I hardly think the first thing they’d think of is- ‘hey, let’s go to war with Russia!’ The ZUSA is no longer here to “protect” us!

    the ZUS/CIA offers “protection” to a country in Eastern Europe

    If Trump pulls away the “protection”, how will Ukraine survive?!

    Yet we are still subsidizing NATO in Europe and have taken on new allies since the Soviet Empire fell.

    NATO does not exist to protect anyone. Duh. That’s a pathetic farce.

    NATO exists as a racket to force the corrupt governments of Europe to act as vassals when the Fiend orders them around like dogs. It would only exacerbate their humiliation to expect them to pay for the privilege of being Janissaries of Zion.

    NATO needs to be disbanded. Period.

    let the Europeans face Vladimir Putin and Russia themselves?

    Karina Kiel is a Russian photographer

    here’s a search of her work

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=photographer+Karina+Kiel&FORM=HDRSC3

    when’s the last time you saw an European artist revel in the sublime beauty of the European people, eh?

    Answer = there isn’t one.

    Because any German (or Brit or Dane, etc..) who photographed people in this way would be denounced as a NAZI!!! in a New York second.

    The idea that Europe needs protection from Putin’s Russia is like saying Lebanon or Syria need protection from Iran.

    And I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if some neocon rag somewhere isn’t trying to make that precise case.

    ‘by bombing Iranian assets in Syria, Israel is protecting the people of Syria from Iran’

    or some equally idiotic trope

    Free trade Republicans reject tariffs that might raise the cost of the items U.S. companies makes abroad and then ships back to the United States.

    nicely put Mr. Buchanan.

    ‘treason, by any other name…

    And our exasperated president senses this.

    the election victory in Italy is a very good sign!

    There is hope.

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    I generally enjoy/agree with your remarks Rurik. This little gem stood out for me:

    "By giving credit to ‘fate’, you’re cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy."

    FUCK Robert DeNiro!
    , @Bill Jones
    In your list of atrocities, you omitted that committed by America against the Philippines, where the "water treatment" was first devised.
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  13. Once again I fear that Mr. Buchanan risks pulling a muscle as he stretches to justify Trump’s actions. If the U.S. wanted to change its policy, any policy, Trump now has the Congress and could simply do it. There is no need for these silly (and probably expensive) summit meetings, and there is certainly no need for Tweets of any sort. We have a State Dept. and we have ambassadors; let Trump determine what he wants our policy to be and then instruct his subordinates to execute it. And stop with all the nonsense!

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  14. NATO’s task:

    to keep the Americans in
    the Russians out
    the Germans down.

    And now begone, thank you very much.

    We’re trembling in the face of Russia already.

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  15. Cyrano says:

    I think that Rex Tillerson appraisal of Trump was correct. Trump just doesn’t have a clue about anything.

    The only ones that are taking advantage of the US are its elites – no one else.

    The reason why China has such huge sufficits with US is because the US elites moved their factories there starting in the 90”. I still remember the BS campaign that they run back then in order to convince the Americans that outsourcing their manufacturing to China is a good idea.

    They were talking about things like: knowledge based economy, value added economy, post- industrial society, service based economy – all of it was a load of crap in order to convince the Americans that they don’t need manufacturing any more and that’s ok to move it to China.

    Manufacturing is always going to be the base of any economy. The Germans never outsourced their manufacturing – I guess they are not as clever. So the trade deficits with China are not even what they seem – they should be called domestic production on foreign soil. And the reason why they have deficits with Europe is simple – Europeans make better quality products. Prime example are the cars.

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  16. Virgile says:

    @ Adrian_E

    I totally agree with you. The US bases in Europe are perceived as unavoidable tumours and except for the dictators of the Gulf countries, all countries will be more than happy to get rid of them. Mr Trump, let all these expensive US army personel go home. You’ll save money and they will love you!
    Russia is a fabricated threat to keep these bases in the world. Time for the EU to realize who wants to strengthen them and who wants to weak them.
    Yet the presence of these US bases is part of the USA pride of been the world’s protector and gives the impression that it is a generous country. If it cant afford the cost of that pride then it should pack and go home to protect its school kids instead.
    Trump wants to save money while continuing to have America perceived as a generous world leader… It can’t be both.

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  17. Yep, still waiting for Trump or anyone in DC to cut off the billions in welfare we give to Israel, to be used against us in most cases. Sad to think that we paid $$ for 9/11 ourselves…Plus the billions we have to pay the surrounding countries not to squash Israel.
    Its been proven over and over again that the CIA/MIC creates the boogiemen “terrorists” that we’re pissing away trillions to chase around in circles…
    War is a racket, everything is a racket now including our crappy unaffordable “healthcare”. I guess we goyim gotta settle for crap healthcare so Israel can have their unversal healthcare. Trump talks big but thats about it. Till he stands up to Wall St, MIC, Bankers, The Lobby, Israel, Saudis, its just talk.
    Still waiting on a real 9/11 investigation, and an investigation into the USS Liberty incident, that we also probably paid $$ for through aid to Israel. I’m not holding my breath.
    Its horrible. Nothing will fix this short of mass arrests and imprisonment in DC, and completely unrigging everything in politics, judiciary, and the economy. Shutting down the “deep state” spying and blackmail. Everyone and everything is corrupt, all the way to the Supreme Court. I won’t hold my breath.
    End the Fed.

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  18. @Rurik

    Our elites see America as an “indispensable nation,” the premier world power whose ordained duty it is to defend democracy, stand up to dictators and aggressors, and uphold a liberal world order.
     
    laughable

    Actually our elites see America as land of vast blood and treasure to bilk and drain for serial wars of aggression all over the planet- in servile, slavish service to the world's most murderous, villainous and iniquitous regimes. We now operate an open torture camp for just that purpose.

    That's how we're upholding global liberal values, by assisting Saudi Arabia with genociding by starvation hundreds of thousands of desperately impoverished people in Yemen.

    (I read about the starvation genocide of the South African farmer at the turn of the century, or the starvation of Germany at the end of the first war, or the starvation of Ukraine, or Germany again after the second war was 'over', and I always used to wonder at such barbarism, and yet now "we're" doing right now, as I write this).

    Pat must type with a lot of wry in his fingers when he states that America 'stands up to dictators and aggressors', even as America is the foremost berserk gorilla in the living room, smashing everything in reach of 'liberal values'. What a pathetic joke.

    I suppose Pat is being sarcastic, and it's well played, because the momentous contrast between the truth and what he writes, the reader's mind is sent reeling from the contradiction.

    'Wow, did he just say that?!'

    They see U.S. wealth and power as splendid tools that fate has given them to shape the future of the planet.

     

    'that fate has given ((them))'

    By giving credit to 'fate', you're cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy.

    this is how the elites see the U.S. splendid golem

    http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/media/US-GOLEM-FOR-ISRAEL-2.jpg

    because that is the reality, and has been for a hundred years

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.

     

    the previous regimes profaning the White House viscerally despise the America of Trump's rallies.

    They set about deliberately to destroy that America, and our trade agreements and immigration policies and everything else they did was geared specifically to that end. Obama doesn't love Mexican immigrants. Pfft. But he wants them because of how badly he (and Hillary and Maxine and the Bush crime cabal) abhor the Deplorables. It isn't about helping Mexicans, it's about a stake though the heart of Americana. duh

    Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West

     

    Defense from who or what?!

    Russia is a beacon rationality in a world menaced by the ZUS drooling fiend. China only burgeons due to trade policies designed to bolster international corporations at the direct expense of the American people. If the ZUS would favor the 'forgotten man' over Nike, Apple and Amazon, then China would languish in no time flat.

    Since NAFTA and before, our elites in DC and elsewhere (NYC, London, etc..) have sold out the American people to corporations, with the eager accommodation of our treasonous little scumbag$ in congress. (think Jeff Flake, Paul Ryan, et al)

    walk away from our war guarantees, and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? Could he cut that umbilical cord?
     
    allowing Germany to face Russia sans the demands of the ZUSA, would be like cutting a harness, not an umbilical cord.

    Europe is hogtied to the whims of the (((ZUSA/Fed/ECB))) for as long as most of them have been alive. Cutting the leash would be like freeing an entire continent that's been under a cruel occupation for generations. For the first time in a typical German's life, they'd be free of a zio-boot on their neck. I hardly think the first thing they'd think of is- 'hey, let's go to war with Russia!' The ZUSA is no longer here to "protect" us!

    the ZUS/CIA offers "protection" to a country in Eastern Europe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRke9pMnqEE

    If Trump pulls away the "protection", how will Ukraine survive?!

    Yet we are still subsidizing NATO in Europe and have taken on new allies since the Soviet Empire fell.
     
    NATO does not exist to protect anyone. Duh. That's a pathetic farce.

    NATO exists as a racket to force the corrupt governments of Europe to act as vassals when the Fiend orders them around like dogs. It would only exacerbate their humiliation to expect them to pay for the privilege of being Janissaries of Zion.

    NATO needs to be disbanded. Period.

    let the Europeans face Vladimir Putin and Russia themselves?
     
    Karina Kiel is a Russian photographer

    here's a search of her work

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=photographer+Karina+Kiel&FORM=HDRSC3

    when's the last time you saw an European artist revel in the sublime beauty of the European people, eh?

    Answer = there isn't one.

    Because any German (or Brit or Dane, etc..) who photographed people in this way would be denounced as a NAZI!!! in a New York second.

    The idea that Europe needs protection from Putin's Russia is like saying Lebanon or Syria need protection from Iran.

    And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some neocon rag somewhere isn't trying to make that precise case.

    'by bombing Iranian assets in Syria, Israel is protecting the people of Syria from Iran'

    or some equally idiotic trope

    Free trade Republicans reject tariffs that might raise the cost of the items U.S. companies makes abroad and then ships back to the United States.
     
    nicely put Mr. Buchanan.

    'treason, by any other name...

    And our exasperated president senses this.
     
    the election victory in Italy is a very good sign!

    There is hope.

    I generally enjoy/agree with your remarks Rurik. This little gem stood out for me:

    “By giving credit to ‘fate’, you’re cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy.”

    FUCK Robert DeNiro!

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    thanks Sir,

    the sentiments are reciprocated heartily

    FUCK Robert DeNiro!
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  19. KenH says:

    And that’s what America voted for.

    True, but a wall and lowering immigration levels across the board was his signature issue along with ending pointless wars. Yet we’re on the cusp of Congress passing amnesty and Trump has surrounded himself with neocon hardliners who want more war and regime change, not less.

    He’s done very little on immigration and before some smart aleck fires back “Well he’s better than Hillary”, that isn’t the point. He promised the moon and led us to believe he could browbeat Congress into passing immigration reform that benefits Americans or use his legendary negotiating skills to get the job done.

    We’re getting the art of the deal on N. Korea, but I’m still waiting for the art of the deal on immigration.

    I’m of the opinion that he’s working towards a resolution with N. Korea so he can focus on regime change in Iran in service to his master Benjamin Netanyahu.

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  20. Rurik says:
    @WorkingClass
    I generally enjoy/agree with your remarks Rurik. This little gem stood out for me:

    "By giving credit to ‘fate’, you’re cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy."

    FUCK Robert DeNiro!

    thanks Sir,

    the sentiments are reciprocated heartily

    FUCK Robert DeNiro!

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  21. ‘…Our elites see America as an “indispensable nation,” the premier world power whose ordained duty it is to defend democracy, stand up to dictators and aggressors, and uphold a liberal world order…’

    ? We certainly no longer do any of that. Surely that much isn’t in dispute.

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  22. Art says:

    Trump’s Exasperation!

    Oh dear’ – it has been 24 hours since the signing with NKorea and the Dems are crying failure. Schumer is livid — says no gay pride parade yet.

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  23. Bliss says:
    @WorkingClass
    Pepe Escobar:

    In parallel, diplomats in Brussels confirmed to Asia Times there are insistent rumbles about Trump possibly dreaming of a G3 composed of just US, Russia and China. Trump, after all, personally admires the leadership qualities of both Putin and Xi, while deriding the Kafkaesque EU bureaucratic maze and its weaklings, currently represented by the M3 (Merkel, Macron, May).
     
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-11/pepe-escobar-putin-xi-top-g61

    Perhaps The Donald understands that "we" can prosper by joining them or perish by fighting them?

    diplomats in Brussels confirmed to Asia Times there are insistent rumbles about Trump possibly dreaming of a G3 composed of just US, Russia and China.

    Very interesting. Makes sense too.

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  24. Anon[171] • Disclaimer says:

    “Suppose the Germans will say one day, You want to have bases on our territory pay for the privilege, here is rent price.”

    Then we’d just go to Poland, empower them to oppose the Germans and dictate the price of peace back to them.

    “That is why US needs to make Russia look aggressive and dangerous.”

    The Europeans do that all by themselves. They helped that little coup situation in Ukraine.

    “Trumps aggressive push in trade and in NATO spending push will lead to Europe shaking off American tutelage.”

    Alliances come and go. I hear both Rome and Moscow are nice this time of year.

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    The Europeans do that all by themselves. They helped that little coup situation in Ukraine.
     
    I congratulate you, sir, on your sarcasm.

    Please do pay my compliments to Mrs. Nuland next time you meet her, will you be so kind?

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    “The US bases in Europe are perceived as unavoidable tumours and except for the dictators of the Gulf countries, all countries will be more than happy to get rid of them.”

    Speak for yourself. Lots of European countries would love to have a powerful benefactor to boost their sway. Poland, for example, is soliciting Washington to deposit a base in their country as we speak. I’m guessing that’s to counter Germany and Merkel’s belligerence. Besides, we could always be friends with the Russians if it came to it (or flood Europe with about 100 million Africans) or get closer to Turkey and help them crush the EU. Alliances come and go…and we’ve got options.

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    Besides, we could always be friends with the Russians if it came to it (or flood Europe with about 100 million Africans) or get closer to Turkey and help them crush the EU. Alliances come and go…and we’ve got options.

    Sadly true.

    + there are the traitors firmly installed to help exercise said options.
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  26. MEexpert says:

    Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West, and of fighting the terrorists and radical Islamists of the Middle East, and of protecting South Korea and Japan.

    The author fails to mention that these so-called terrorists and the radical Islamists are CIA/Israel creations. If the US stays out of the Middle East, there will not be any terrorists and the US will not have to fight them.

    The author is also dreaming if he thinks Trump can pull troops out of Korea or Europe. The Military-Industrial Complex (MIC) will fight him all the way to keep these troops in NATO, South Korea, and the Middle East. These guys have gotten the taste of big money and they will never let it go.

    No one is stopping Trump from pulling out American troops out of Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Oh sorry, I forgot Israel and Saudi Arabia, who will never let the US do it. They need protection from the dreaded Iranians. The congress and the the President of the US are slaves to the Military-Industrial complex. Trump had the potential of being an independent president but he has fallen in the trap as well. Buchanan can make all the excuses in the world for Trump, the fact remains Trump does not have the guts to buck the MIC/Israel/Saudi Arabia combination.

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    I think Pat Buchanan tries to enchant Trump by giving him plausible if false reasons to do what Buchanan wants him to do. That may sound like a lame excuse but I find it hard to believe that Buchanan thinks Russia is currently a threat to Europe. But he'd like to see US troops brought home, so he encourages Trump petulantly to demand more spending by Europe for their "defense" which they will refuse, leading Trump petulantly to close the bases. Baseless petulance but profitable result.

    I often think this dream-weaver reading of Buchanan is the best.
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  27. David says:
    @MEexpert

    Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West, and of fighting the terrorists and radical Islamists of the Middle East, and of protecting South Korea and Japan.
     
    The author fails to mention that these so-called terrorists and the radical Islamists are CIA/Israel creations. If the US stays out of the Middle East, there will not be any terrorists and the US will not have to fight them.


    The author is also dreaming if he thinks Trump can pull troops out of Korea or Europe. The Military-Industrial Complex (MIC) will fight him all the way to keep these troops in NATO, South Korea, and the Middle East. These guys have gotten the taste of big money and they will never let it go.


    No one is stopping Trump from pulling out American troops out of Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Oh sorry, I forgot Israel and Saudi Arabia, who will never let the US do it. They need protection from the dreaded Iranians. The congress and the the President of the US are slaves to the Military-Industrial complex. Trump had the potential of being an independent president but he has fallen in the trap as well. Buchanan can make all the excuses in the world for Trump, the fact remains Trump does not have the guts to buck the MIC/Israel/Saudi Arabia combination.

    I think Pat Buchanan tries to enchant Trump by giving him plausible if false reasons to do what Buchanan wants him to do. That may sound like a lame excuse but I find it hard to believe that Buchanan thinks Russia is currently a threat to Europe. But he’d like to see US troops brought home, so he encourages Trump petulantly to demand more spending by Europe for their “defense” which they will refuse, leading Trump petulantly to close the bases. Baseless petulance but profitable result.

    I often think this dream-weaver reading of Buchanan is the best.

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  28. That Paddy is still gibbering that the US occupation of Europe has anything to do with its defense is proof that senility is well advanced.

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  29. @Rurik

    Our elites see America as an “indispensable nation,” the premier world power whose ordained duty it is to defend democracy, stand up to dictators and aggressors, and uphold a liberal world order.
     
    laughable

    Actually our elites see America as land of vast blood and treasure to bilk and drain for serial wars of aggression all over the planet- in servile, slavish service to the world's most murderous, villainous and iniquitous regimes. We now operate an open torture camp for just that purpose.

    That's how we're upholding global liberal values, by assisting Saudi Arabia with genociding by starvation hundreds of thousands of desperately impoverished people in Yemen.

    (I read about the starvation genocide of the South African farmer at the turn of the century, or the starvation of Germany at the end of the first war, or the starvation of Ukraine, or Germany again after the second war was 'over', and I always used to wonder at such barbarism, and yet now "we're" doing right now, as I write this).

    Pat must type with a lot of wry in his fingers when he states that America 'stands up to dictators and aggressors', even as America is the foremost berserk gorilla in the living room, smashing everything in reach of 'liberal values'. What a pathetic joke.

    I suppose Pat is being sarcastic, and it's well played, because the momentous contrast between the truth and what he writes, the reader's mind is sent reeling from the contradiction.

    'Wow, did he just say that?!'

    They see U.S. wealth and power as splendid tools that fate has given them to shape the future of the planet.

     

    'that fate has given ((them))'

    By giving credit to 'fate', you're cheating Woodrow Wilson of his legacy.

    this is how the elites see the U.S. splendid golem

    http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/media/US-GOLEM-FOR-ISRAEL-2.jpg

    because that is the reality, and has been for a hundred years

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.

     

    the previous regimes profaning the White House viscerally despise the America of Trump's rallies.

    They set about deliberately to destroy that America, and our trade agreements and immigration policies and everything else they did was geared specifically to that end. Obama doesn't love Mexican immigrants. Pfft. But he wants them because of how badly he (and Hillary and Maxine and the Bush crime cabal) abhor the Deplorables. It isn't about helping Mexicans, it's about a stake though the heart of Americana. duh

    Americans are indeed carrying the lion’s share of the load of the defense of the West

     

    Defense from who or what?!

    Russia is a beacon rationality in a world menaced by the ZUS drooling fiend. China only burgeons due to trade policies designed to bolster international corporations at the direct expense of the American people. If the ZUS would favor the 'forgotten man' over Nike, Apple and Amazon, then China would languish in no time flat.

    Since NAFTA and before, our elites in DC and elsewhere (NYC, London, etc..) have sold out the American people to corporations, with the eager accommodation of our treasonous little scumbag$ in congress. (think Jeff Flake, Paul Ryan, et al)

    walk away from our war guarantees, and let these nations face Russia and China on their own? Could he cut that umbilical cord?
     
    allowing Germany to face Russia sans the demands of the ZUSA, would be like cutting a harness, not an umbilical cord.

    Europe is hogtied to the whims of the (((ZUSA/Fed/ECB))) for as long as most of them have been alive. Cutting the leash would be like freeing an entire continent that's been under a cruel occupation for generations. For the first time in a typical German's life, they'd be free of a zio-boot on their neck. I hardly think the first thing they'd think of is- 'hey, let's go to war with Russia!' The ZUSA is no longer here to "protect" us!

    the ZUS/CIA offers "protection" to a country in Eastern Europe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRke9pMnqEE

    If Trump pulls away the "protection", how will Ukraine survive?!

    Yet we are still subsidizing NATO in Europe and have taken on new allies since the Soviet Empire fell.
     
    NATO does not exist to protect anyone. Duh. That's a pathetic farce.

    NATO exists as a racket to force the corrupt governments of Europe to act as vassals when the Fiend orders them around like dogs. It would only exacerbate their humiliation to expect them to pay for the privilege of being Janissaries of Zion.

    NATO needs to be disbanded. Period.

    let the Europeans face Vladimir Putin and Russia themselves?
     
    Karina Kiel is a Russian photographer

    here's a search of her work

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=photographer+Karina+Kiel&FORM=HDRSC3

    when's the last time you saw an European artist revel in the sublime beauty of the European people, eh?

    Answer = there isn't one.

    Because any German (or Brit or Dane, etc..) who photographed people in this way would be denounced as a NAZI!!! in a New York second.

    The idea that Europe needs protection from Putin's Russia is like saying Lebanon or Syria need protection from Iran.

    And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some neocon rag somewhere isn't trying to make that precise case.

    'by bombing Iranian assets in Syria, Israel is protecting the people of Syria from Iran'

    or some equally idiotic trope

    Free trade Republicans reject tariffs that might raise the cost of the items U.S. companies makes abroad and then ships back to the United States.
     
    nicely put Mr. Buchanan.

    'treason, by any other name...

    And our exasperated president senses this.
     
    the election victory in Italy is a very good sign!

    There is hope.

    In your list of atrocities, you omitted that committed by America against the Philippines, where the “water treatment” was first devised.

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  30. The answer to all this lies in internal monetary and fiscal policy, not trade barriers. The US is consuming beyond its means by seller financed purchases from abroad.

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    This, sir, is what is so annoying about Mr. Buchanan's arguments.

    Millions of German man days are given to the US year after year in in exchange of IOUs which will never be honoured.

    For red China I suppose we are talking of hundreds of millions of man days.

    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    Wait for similar scandals with Chinese electronic trinkets.

    So yes, the numbers look as if there were a US “deficit” – but does that not mean that the US are getting a free ride (credit to be never repaid) on consumer goods, leaving them in a position to spend more on armament than the rest of the planet combined?
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  31. @Milton
    Wake me up when Trump cancels the billions in foreign aid to the butchers in Israel and Saudi Arabia and returns it to the American working class from which it was stolen. Until that happens, until Trump musters the courage to say “no” to Israel and Saudi Arabia, nothing will change and nothing can change for the better in America. Until that happens, America is and will remain an Israeli-Saudi colony.

    What foreign aid is given to Saudi Arabia?

    To the contrary Saudi Arabia purchases gigantic amounts of American arms at frankly extortionate prices.

    You are of course right on the money about Israel.

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    Not a relevant number. UK GDP was £1.8 trillion, defense spending £49.9 billion, in 2013, or 2.8%. But usually these numbers are understated. They usually exclude cost items to make it seem the military is less funded than it is - whether it's healthcare for veterans, nuclear weapons, port costs, "intelligence" costs, etc. In the US about 35% of the military budget is excluded this way. Not sure what the number is in UK but no doubt greater than 0.
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  33. TheOldOne says:

    Pat comes as close to Truth as a multimillionaire can! Old folks have to protect their investments, ya know.

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  34. PJ London says:
    @ians
    Completely agree. America is welcome to pack up all its troops in Europe and disband NATO, as far as I’m concerned. The Cold War died three decades ago and we’re not worried about godless Rooskie Commies invading us.
    Europe’s major problem is the mass importation of millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent, many of whom wish us slaughtered and a Caliphate put in place. Our pusillanimous, incompetent, inept politicians are unwilling or unable to resolve this ongoing catastrophe and the presence, or otherwise, of US troops is irrelevant.
    I honestly wish Putin was leader of my own country.

    ‘ millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent’ ; who are fleeing from the chaos created by the Israeli instigated, US initiated wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia and who knows where else.
    Before these wars, there were no refugees and no influx.

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    Agree, in addition to the wars you cite every war before that including the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam were stupid and unnecessary resulting in the deaths of millions of combatants and non-combatants alike. And every war has terrible consequences the leaders apparently never dreamed would happen such as the influx of refugees you mention. Unfortunately the leaders who instigate the wars go largely unpunished.
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  35. CalDre says:
    @JamesD
    "Stabbing in the back" etc... did not reference the press conference. Something else went down. The BIG question is WHY doesn't Justin cut a deal with the US? The trade deficit with Canada is tiny, so cutting a deal would be easy for both sides. We did one with South Korea in a few weeks, and have a much bigger deficit with them.

    So what is going on with Canada? Is Justin virtue signaling by standing with Mexico over NAFTA? Is he trying to kiss-up to the EU? Canada's actions don't make any sense.

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.

    Free ride on our defense effort? It’s all offense, bud. Who’s being defended? And there’s certainly no “free ride” – these countries have given up their sovereignty. Germany is an occupied country. As to trade practices, those are all of US making. Who let China into WTO? Who supports its currency peg? Who made the US dollar the world’s reserve currency? Sure, it’s all Hitler’s fault.

    Buchanan despite his pretensions is still an ethnocentric American exceptionalist SOB. He somehow convinces his Imperial self that US stationing its troops in other countries and blackmailing them constantly with military, economic and other threats is doing them a favor. Yeah, just like the Bolsheviks did the kulaks favors by ridding them of their burdensome cows.

    Where our elites live to play masters of the universe, Trump sees a world laughing behind America’s back, while allies exploit our magnanimity and idealism for their own national ends.

    Magnanimity and idealism? Fuck you, Buchanan, you deluded asshole. US fucking murders millions around the world for no reason, blackmails others, destroys countries, etc. You fucking cunt, Buchanan, you fucking nasty cunt.

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    Can we keep the discussion civil? There is no need for this type of language.
    , @byrresheim
    @MExpert has a point.

    Apart from the language I'm with you.

    I do not quite get how Mr. Buchanan shows the duplicity of American policies again and again on one hand an on the other hand manages to argue that these same policies somehow are a service to otheres that should be paid.

    Cognitive dissonance?
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  36. CalDre says:
    @jim jones
    The UK spends 7.5% of its budget on defense:

    https://theconversation.com/fact-check-how-much-of-the-uk-budget-is-spent-on-defence-40409

    Not a relevant number. UK GDP was £1.8 trillion, defense spending £49.9 billion, in 2013, or 2.8%. But usually these numbers are understated. They usually exclude cost items to make it seem the military is less funded than it is – whether it’s healthcare for veterans, nuclear weapons, port costs, “intelligence” costs, etc. In the US about 35% of the military budget is excluded this way. Not sure what the number is in UK but no doubt greater than 0.

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  37. Corvinus says:
    @Adrian_E
    Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat).

    The US is certainly welcome to close its bases in Europe, and apart from some local businesses around the US bases very few Europeans will regret when they are gone.

    The idea that when the US closes its foreign military bases, Europeans would have to spend more on its military is completely nonsensical. The European NATO countries already spend significantly more on their militaries than Russia, and when comparing the numbers of military aiplanes and other categories of military equipment, on a basis of comparisons with other significant powers like China and Russia, the equipment of Western European militaries is certainly sufficient. It is not sufficient for dangerous idea about world dominations (full spectrum dominance) the bipartisan maniacs that control the US have, but it is certainly more than adequate for what the militaries should be for - defense and deterrence of attacks.

    Of course, the US strategy to make Europeans afraid of Russia in order to keep them dependent on the US is obvious, but surveys in countries like Germany, France, and Italy show that this strategy has been a complete failure and a vast majority of Europeans don‘t see Russia as a threat (Poland and the Baltic states are an exception, for historical reasons, they have been hostile towards Russia for a long time, and this is also exploied by the US for dividing the EU on foreign policy issues).

    In the US, some people have the absurd notion that Europeans would be afraid if the US left its military bases. The real situation is rather that these US military bases and the drone wars and surveillance actions conducted via them are quite unpopular. European governments do not have the courage to ask the US to leave, yet, but if the US announced they wanted to leave their military bases in Eueope, European governments certainly would not beg them to stay (and if a government did, that would make it unpopular domestically). Many Europeans see the US as a semi-hostile power, anyway, with recent developments that „semi“ comes closer to being dropped. And certainly, very few European politicians would advocate a drastic increase of military expenses in Europe after the departure of US troops from the current sensible level to the kind of insane overspending on the military we see in the US. A political programme for more military expenses for the price of dilapidated domestic infrastructure and impoverished social welfare may be successful in the US oligarchy, but, even though the European countries are not perfect democracies either, there, such a program would clearly make any party or politician who advanced it fail.

    “Surveys in Europe clearly show that a vast majority of Europeans do not consider Russia a threat (in many European countries, at least as many consider the US a serious threat).”

    Sources?

    Because it would seem this source counters the narrative.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/04/24/how-do-european-countries-really-see-russia/

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  38. @PJ London
    ' millions of uneducated,unemployable, backward economic migrants who continue to flood the continent' ; who are fleeing from the chaos created by the Israeli instigated, US initiated wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Somalia and who knows where else.
    Before these wars, there were no refugees and no influx.

    Agree, in addition to the wars you cite every war before that including the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam were stupid and unnecessary resulting in the deaths of millions of combatants and non-combatants alike. And every war has terrible consequences the leaders apparently never dreamed would happen such as the influx of refugees you mention. Unfortunately the leaders who instigate the wars go largely unpunished.

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    “There has never been a just [war], never an honorable one--on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful--as usual--will shout for the war. The pulpit will--warily and cautiously--object--at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.' Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers--as earlier--but do not dare say so. And now the whole nation--pulpit and all--will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”

    ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger and Other Stories
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  39. PJ London says:
    @Simply Simon
    Agree, in addition to the wars you cite every war before that including the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam were stupid and unnecessary resulting in the deaths of millions of combatants and non-combatants alike. And every war has terrible consequences the leaders apparently never dreamed would happen such as the influx of refugees you mention. Unfortunately the leaders who instigate the wars go largely unpunished.

    “There has never been a just [war], never an honorable one–on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful–as usual–will shout for the war. The pulpit will–warily and cautiously–object–at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, ‘It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.’ Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers–as earlier–but do not dare say so. And now the whole nation–pulpit and all–will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”

    ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger and Other Stories

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    In both WWI and WWII English and French leaders desperately wanted our involvement to bail them out of wars their utter incompetence got themselves into. The patriotic fervor that was stirred up by insane songs like "Over There," and the cheering crowds watching parades of soldiers marching off to war sickens one stomach today. Prior to WWII there was strong isolationist sentiment especially in Middle America led by stalwarts like Charles Lindbergh. But once Japan attacked Pearl Harbor resistance to war evaporated. I won't get into what colossal failures of intelligence gathering on Japan's military preparations plus duplicity on the part of FDR mitigated that blunder. By the time Korea came around the American public was so sated on war that most Americans pretended the war did not exist, hence The Forgotten War. Enough time elapsed between Korea and Vietnam that LBJ was able to get away with a multitude of mischief that finally ended with the worst debacle in our history. I will not go further, you have aptly described the unintended consequences of our ventures in the Middle East, except to say, will we ever learn? Mark Twain did not think so.
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  40. @PJ London
    “There has never been a just [war], never an honorable one--on the part of the instigator of the war. I can see a million years ahead, and this rule will never change in so many as half a dozen instances. The loud little handful--as usual--will shout for the war. The pulpit will--warily and cautiously--object--at first; the great, big, dull bulk of the nation will rub its sleepy eyes and try to make out why there should be a war, and will say, earnestly and indignantly, 'It is unjust and dishonorable, and there is no necessity for it.' Then the handful will shout louder. A few fair men on the other side will argue and reason against the war with speech and pen, and at first will have a hearing and be applauded; but it will not last long; those others will outshout them, and presently the anti-war audiences will thin out and lose popularity. Before long you will see this curious thing: the speakers stoned from the platform, and free speech strangled by hordes of furious men who in their secret hearts are still at one with those stoned speakers--as earlier--but do not dare say so. And now the whole nation--pulpit and all--will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open. Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.”

    ― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger and Other Stories

    In both WWI and WWII English and French leaders desperately wanted our involvement to bail them out of wars their utter incompetence got themselves into. The patriotic fervor that was stirred up by insane songs like “Over There,” and the cheering crowds watching parades of soldiers marching off to war sickens one stomach today. Prior to WWII there was strong isolationist sentiment especially in Middle America led by stalwarts like Charles Lindbergh. But once Japan attacked Pearl Harbor resistance to war evaporated. I won’t get into what colossal failures of intelligence gathering on Japan’s military preparations plus duplicity on the part of FDR mitigated that blunder. By the time Korea came around the American public was so sated on war that most Americans pretended the war did not exist, hence The Forgotten War. Enough time elapsed between Korea and Vietnam that LBJ was able to get away with a multitude of mischief that finally ended with the worst debacle in our history. I will not go further, you have aptly described the unintended consequences of our ventures in the Middle East, except to say, will we ever learn? Mark Twain did not think so.

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  41. Renoman says:

    Great writing Pat as usual, thank you.

    Regards,

    William White

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  42. Sparkon says:

    The reason why China has such huge sufficits with US is because the US elites moved their factories there starting in the 90” [sic]

    No, the big deregulation and outsourcing started in the early 1980s under Conservative icon Pres. Ronald Reagan, who campaigned promising to “get the government off your back,” but whose administrations in fact managed to triple the national debt, and transform the world’s largest creditor nation into the world’s largest debtor nation in just eight years.

    So “Off your back, and into your wallet” was more like it.

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    Please, in Pat's fantasy world no unkind mention of Reagan is allowed. Rule number 1. Reagan is blameless. Rule number 2. See Rule #1.

    Reagan's amnesty, opening up huge loop-holes in our immigration policy, looking the other way when employers hired them, and ignoring their document fraud had nothing to do with us being flooded with illegal aliens from south of the border. It was all the 1965 Kennedy immigration bill and the lying Democrats who betrayed Reagan.

    Actually, the Maquiladora plan predates Reagan but under him it went into overdrive.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquiladora
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  43. MEexpert says:
    @CalDre

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.
     
    Free ride on our defense effort? It's all offense, bud. Who's being defended? And there's certainly no "free ride" - these countries have given up their sovereignty. Germany is an occupied country. As to trade practices, those are all of US making. Who let China into WTO? Who supports its currency peg? Who made the US dollar the world's reserve currency? Sure, it's all Hitler's fault.

    Buchanan despite his pretensions is still an ethnocentric American exceptionalist SOB. He somehow convinces his Imperial self that US stationing its troops in other countries and blackmailing them constantly with military, economic and other threats is doing them a favor. Yeah, just like the Bolsheviks did the kulaks favors by ridding them of their burdensome cows.

    Where our elites live to play masters of the universe, Trump sees a world laughing behind America’s back, while allies exploit our magnanimity and idealism for their own national ends.
     
    Magnanimity and idealism? Fuck you, Buchanan, you deluded asshole. US fucking murders millions around the world for no reason, blackmails others, destroys countries, etc. You fucking cunt, Buchanan, you fucking nasty cunt.

    Can we keep the discussion civil? There is no need for this type of language.

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    What language do you suggest I use to express the utter revulsion for someone who lauds the murderer of millions of innocents, the destroyer of countries without cause, the chief blackmailer and terrorist of the world, as "magnanimous and idealist"?

    If he wrote the same about Hitler, you'd probably excuse someone for using strong language. In my case I am even more compelled because normalization and idealization of the Evil Empire is a real phenomenon. As we speak US is slowly, tortuously, methodically murdering 100,000s of innocents in Yemen.

    Should I say, "I politely disagree with your evil lies, Mr. Buchanan, sir?"

    Fact is he is a fucking miserable cunt. Not always, or I wouldn't ever read his writing, but his American supremacist lies actually kill, murder and seriously harm millions upon millions of people. And you are worried about some foul language? Mass murder is OK but don't insult the mass murderer? Where are YOUR priorities?

    People need to get MAD, really MAD< at these mass murdering scumbags who call themselves our leaders. They need to beat them up, physically would be best, but as that is not plausible, verbally is a necessary substitute. These scumbag murderers need to pay for their monumental crimes.

    So, snowflake, toughen up and join the uproar against the Murder, Maiming and Mayhem Machine known as the US Empire. And its evil supporters.
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  44. CalDre says:
    @MEexpert
    Can we keep the discussion civil? There is no need for this type of language.

    What language do you suggest I use to express the utter revulsion for someone who lauds the murderer of millions of innocents, the destroyer of countries without cause, the chief blackmailer and terrorist of the world, as “magnanimous and idealist”?

    If he wrote the same about Hitler, you’d probably excuse someone for using strong language. In my case I am even more compelled because normalization and idealization of the Evil Empire is a real phenomenon. As we speak US is slowly, tortuously, methodically murdering 100,000s of innocents in Yemen.

    Should I say, “I politely disagree with your evil lies, Mr. Buchanan, sir?”

    Fact is he is a fucking miserable cunt. Not always, or I wouldn’t ever read his writing, but his American supremacist lies actually kill, murder and seriously harm millions upon millions of people. And you are worried about some foul language? Mass murder is OK but don’t insult the mass murderer? Where are YOUR priorities?

    People need to get MAD, really MAD< at these mass murdering scumbags who call themselves our leaders. They need to beat them up, physically would be best, but as that is not plausible, verbally is a necessary substitute. These scumbag murderers need to pay for their monumental crimes.

    So, snowflake, toughen up and join the uproar against the Murder, Maiming and Mayhem Machine known as the US Empire. And its evil supporters.

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    I did not disagree with the points you were trying to make. My objection was about the language. If you insist on using this type of language, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it.


    By the way, this snowflake does not mince words when he wants to make a point for or against someone else's point of view.
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  45. @CalDre

    Trump sees America as a nation being milked by allies who free ride on our defense effort, as they engage in trade practices that prosper their own peoples at America’s expense.
     
    Free ride on our defense effort? It's all offense, bud. Who's being defended? And there's certainly no "free ride" - these countries have given up their sovereignty. Germany is an occupied country. As to trade practices, those are all of US making. Who let China into WTO? Who supports its currency peg? Who made the US dollar the world's reserve currency? Sure, it's all Hitler's fault.

    Buchanan despite his pretensions is still an ethnocentric American exceptionalist SOB. He somehow convinces his Imperial self that US stationing its troops in other countries and blackmailing them constantly with military, economic and other threats is doing them a favor. Yeah, just like the Bolsheviks did the kulaks favors by ridding them of their burdensome cows.

    Where our elites live to play masters of the universe, Trump sees a world laughing behind America’s back, while allies exploit our magnanimity and idealism for their own national ends.
     
    Magnanimity and idealism? Fuck you, Buchanan, you deluded asshole. US fucking murders millions around the world for no reason, blackmails others, destroys countries, etc. You fucking cunt, Buchanan, you fucking nasty cunt.

    @MExpert has a point.

    Apart from the language I’m with you.

    I do not quite get how Mr. Buchanan shows the duplicity of American policies again and again on one hand an on the other hand manages to argue that these same policies somehow are a service to otheres that should be paid.

    Cognitive dissonance?

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  46. @Donald J. Tingle
    The answer to all this lies in internal monetary and fiscal policy, not trade barriers. The US is consuming beyond its means by seller financed purchases from abroad.

    This, sir, is what is so annoying about Mr. Buchanan’s arguments.

    Millions of German man days are given to the US year after year in in exchange of IOUs which will never be honoured.

    For red China I suppose we are talking of hundreds of millions of man days.

    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    Wait for similar scandals with Chinese electronic trinkets.

    So yes, the numbers look as if there were a US “deficit” – but does that not mean that the US are getting a free ride (credit to be never repaid) on consumer goods, leaving them in a position to spend more on armament than the rest of the planet combined?

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    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    The cars are owned by VW. They have every right to put them on ships and sell them to third world countries and get what they can. They are no different than the total loss cars insurance companies have to deal with every day.

    They tried to cheat the system and got caught. Every criminal knows the golden rule - don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
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  47. @Anon
    "Suppose the Germans will say one day, You want to have bases on our territory pay for the privilege, here is rent price."

    Then we'd just go to Poland, empower them to oppose the Germans and dictate the price of peace back to them.

    "That is why US needs to make Russia look aggressive and dangerous."

    The Europeans do that all by themselves. They helped that little coup situation in Ukraine.

    "Trumps aggressive push in trade and in NATO spending push will lead to Europe shaking off American tutelage."

    Alliances come and go. I hear both Rome and Moscow are nice this time of year.

    The Europeans do that all by themselves. They helped that little coup situation in Ukraine.

    I congratulate you, sir, on your sarcasm.

    Please do pay my compliments to Mrs. Nuland next time you meet her, will you be so kind?

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  48. MarkinLA says:
    @Sparkon

    The reason why China has such huge sufficits with US is because the US elites moved their factories there starting in the 90” [sic]
     
    No, the big deregulation and outsourcing started in the early 1980s under Conservative icon Pres. Ronald Reagan, who campaigned promising to "get the government off your back," but whose administrations in fact managed to triple the national debt, and transform the world's largest creditor nation into the world's largest debtor nation in just eight years.

    So "Off your back, and into your wallet" was more like it.

    Please, in Pat’s fantasy world no unkind mention of Reagan is allowed. Rule number 1. Reagan is blameless. Rule number 2. See Rule #1.

    Reagan’s amnesty, opening up huge loop-holes in our immigration policy, looking the other way when employers hired them, and ignoring their document fraud had nothing to do with us being flooded with illegal aliens from south of the border. It was all the 1965 Kennedy immigration bill and the lying Democrats who betrayed Reagan.

    Actually, the Maquiladora plan predates Reagan but under him it went into overdrive.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquiladora

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  49. MarkinLA says:
    @byrresheim
    This, sir, is what is so annoying about Mr. Buchanan's arguments.

    Millions of German man days are given to the US year after year in in exchange of IOUs which will never be honoured.

    For red China I suppose we are talking of hundreds of millions of man days.

    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    Wait for similar scandals with Chinese electronic trinkets.

    So yes, the numbers look as if there were a US “deficit” – but does that not mean that the US are getting a free ride (credit to be never repaid) on consumer goods, leaving them in a position to spend more on armament than the rest of the planet combined?

    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    The cars are owned by VW. They have every right to put them on ships and sell them to third world countries and get what they can. They are no different than the total loss cars insurance companies have to deal with every day.

    They tried to cheat the system and got caught. Every criminal knows the golden rule – don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

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    What I do not understand – but knowing the golden rule, you, sir, might be in a position to explain – is why everybody is so keen to sell stuff to buyers who pay in IOUs which cannot possibly be honoured and who arbitrarily criminalise the sellers.
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  50. Harold says:

    So… the world sends lots of goods to America and doesn’t get many goods in return?

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    Seems so.

    However, we do get protection.
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  51. MEexpert says:
    @CalDre
    What language do you suggest I use to express the utter revulsion for someone who lauds the murderer of millions of innocents, the destroyer of countries without cause, the chief blackmailer and terrorist of the world, as "magnanimous and idealist"?

    If he wrote the same about Hitler, you'd probably excuse someone for using strong language. In my case I am even more compelled because normalization and idealization of the Evil Empire is a real phenomenon. As we speak US is slowly, tortuously, methodically murdering 100,000s of innocents in Yemen.

    Should I say, "I politely disagree with your evil lies, Mr. Buchanan, sir?"

    Fact is he is a fucking miserable cunt. Not always, or I wouldn't ever read his writing, but his American supremacist lies actually kill, murder and seriously harm millions upon millions of people. And you are worried about some foul language? Mass murder is OK but don't insult the mass murderer? Where are YOUR priorities?

    People need to get MAD, really MAD< at these mass murdering scumbags who call themselves our leaders. They need to beat them up, physically would be best, but as that is not plausible, verbally is a necessary substitute. These scumbag murderers need to pay for their monumental crimes.

    So, snowflake, toughen up and join the uproar against the Murder, Maiming and Mayhem Machine known as the US Empire. And its evil supporters.

    I did not disagree with the points you were trying to make. My objection was about the language. If you insist on using this type of language, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it.

    By the way, this snowflake does not mince words when he wants to make a point for or against someone else’s point of view.

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  52. @MarkinLA
    What is the Diesel scandal if not an excuse to get a few million cars for free because the debt incurred for their purchase now need not to be paid, as the seller is criminalized?

    The cars are owned by VW. They have every right to put them on ships and sell them to third world countries and get what they can. They are no different than the total loss cars insurance companies have to deal with every day.

    They tried to cheat the system and got caught. Every criminal knows the golden rule - don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

    What I do not understand – but knowing the golden rule, you, sir, might be in a position to explain – is why everybody is so keen to sell stuff to buyers who pay in IOUs which cannot possibly be honoured and who arbitrarily criminalise the sellers.

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    Ask the seller.

    The seller was not "arbitrarily" criminalized. Emission standards were made tougher for diesels than in the past and VW could not meet them. Since they were betting the companies big comeback on diesels, they rolled the dice.

    Nobody has to take dollars. VW can decide to get out of the US market. FIAT and Alfa Romeo did so years ago when FIAT's reputation for quality was down to zero and Alfa couldn't sell enough units to make it worth their while.
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  53. @Harold
    So… the world sends lots of goods to America and doesn’t get many goods in return?

    Seems so.

    However, we do get protection.

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  54. @Anon
    "The US bases in Europe are perceived as unavoidable tumours and except for the dictators of the Gulf countries, all countries will be more than happy to get rid of them."

    Speak for yourself. Lots of European countries would love to have a powerful benefactor to boost their sway. Poland, for example, is soliciting Washington to deposit a base in their country as we speak. I'm guessing that's to counter Germany and Merkel's belligerence. Besides, we could always be friends with the Russians if it came to it (or flood Europe with about 100 million Africans) or get closer to Turkey and help them crush the EU. Alliances come and go...and we've got options.

    Besides, we could always be friends with the Russians if it came to it (or flood Europe with about 100 million Africans) or get closer to Turkey and help them crush the EU. Alliances come and go…and we’ve got options.

    Sadly true.

    + there are the traitors firmly installed to help exercise said options.

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  55. MarkinLA says:
    @byrresheim
    What I do not understand – but knowing the golden rule, you, sir, might be in a position to explain – is why everybody is so keen to sell stuff to buyers who pay in IOUs which cannot possibly be honoured and who arbitrarily criminalise the sellers.

    Ask the seller.

    The seller was not “arbitrarily” criminalized. Emission standards were made tougher for diesels than in the past and VW could not meet them. Since they were betting the companies big comeback on diesels, they rolled the dice.

    Nobody has to take dollars. VW can decide to get out of the US market. FIAT and Alfa Romeo did so years ago when FIAT’s reputation for quality was down to zero and Alfa couldn’t sell enough units to make it worth their while.

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Are elite university admissions based on meritocracy and diversity as claimed?
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
The evidence is clear — but often ignored
Talk TV sensationalists and axe-grinding ideologues have fallen for a myth of immigrant lawlessness.
The major media overlooked Communist spies and Madoff’s fraud. What are they missing today?