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President Trump may be chief of state, head of government and commander in chief, but his administration is shot through with disloyalists plotting to bring him down.

We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

Thus far, it is a nonviolent struggle, though street clashes between pro- and anti-Trump forces are increasingly marked by fistfights and brawls. Police are having difficulty keeping people apart. A few have been arrested carrying concealed weapons.

That the objective of this city is to bring Trump down via a deep state-media coup is no secret. Few deny it.

Last week, fired Director of the FBI James Comey, a successor to J. Edgar Hoover, admitted under oath that he used a cutout to leak to The New York Times an Oval Office conversation with the president.

Goal: have the Times story trigger the appointment of a special prosecutor to bring down the president.

Comey wanted a special prosecutor to target Trump, despite his knowledge, from his own FBI investigation, that Trump was innocent of the pervasive charge that he colluded with the Kremlin in the hacking of the DNC.

Comey’s deceit was designed to enlist the police powers of the state to bring down his president. And it worked. For the special counsel named, with broad powers to pursue Trump, is Comey’s friend and predecessor at the FBI, Robert Mueller.

As Newt Gingrich said Sunday: “Look at who Mueller’s starting to hire. … (T)hese are people that … look to me like they’re … setting up to go after Trump … including people, by the way, who have been reprimanded for hiding from the defense information into major cases. …

“This is going to be a witch hunt.”

Another example. According to Daily Kos, Trump planned a swift lifting of sanctions on Russia after inauguration and a summit meeting with Vladimir Putin to prevent a second Cold War.

The State Department was tasked with working out the details.

Instead, says Daniel Fried, the coordinator for sanctions policy, he received “panicky” calls of “Please, my God, can you stop this?”

Operatives at State, disloyal to the president and hostile to the Russia policy on which he had been elected, collaborated with elements in Congress to sabotage any detente. They succeeded.

“It would have been a win-win for Moscow,” said Tom Malinowski of State, who boasted last week of his role in blocking a rapprochement with Russia. State employees sabotaged one of the principal policies for which Americans had voted, and they substituted their own.

Not in memory have there been so many leaks to injure a president from within his own government, and not just political leaks, but leaks of confidential, classified and secret documents. The leaks are coming out of the supposedly secure investigative and intelligence agencies of the U.S. government.

The media, the beneficiaries of these leaks, are giving cover to those breaking the law. The real criminal “collusion” in Washington is between Big Media and the deep state, colluding to destroy a president they detest and to sink the policies they oppose.

Yet another example is the unfolding “unmasking” scandal.

While all the evidence is not yet in, it appears an abnormal number of conversations between Trump associates and Russians were intercepted by U.S. intelligence agencies.

On orders higher up, the conversations were transcribed, and, contrary to law, the names of Trump associates unmasked.

Then those transcripts, with names revealed, were spread to all 16 agencies of the intel community at the direction of Susan Rice, and with the possible knowledge of Barack Obama, assuring some would be leaked after Trump became president.

The leak of Gen. Michael Flynn’s conversation with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, after Obama imposed sanctions on Russia for the hacking of the DNC, may have been a product of the unmasking operation. The media hit on Flynn cost him the National Security Council post.

Trump has had many accomplishments since his election. Yet his enemies in the media and their deep state allies have often made a purgatory of his presidency.

What he and his White House need to understand is that this is not going to end, that this is a fight to the finish, that his enemies will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace.

To prevail, Trump will have to campaign across this country and wage guerrilla war in this capital, using the legal and political weapons at his disposal to ferret out the enemies within his own government.

Not only is this battle essential, if Trump hopes to realize his agenda, it is winnable. For the people sense that the Beltway elites are cynically engaged in preserving their own privileges, positions and power.

If the president cannot rewrite Obamacare or achieve tax reform, he should not go around the country in 2018 wailing about Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer. They are not the real adversaries. They are but interchangeable parts.

He should campaign against the real enemies of America First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.

Time to burn down the Bastille.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.
     
    Yep, and they live in geographically-small archipelagos surrounded by an ocean of deplorable America. They are pushing relentlessly to bring out the worst angels of our nature and cannot comprehend that there will be a breaking point and there'll be no turning back. I guess they think they have Deep State and federal agencies so they have infinite power.
    , @Corvinus
    "I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets."

    By whom? Which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    See, if you are going to make this type of bold statement, then you best actually consider how it will be carried out and the consequences it entails.

    Idiot.
    , @neutral
    That has always been the case, those that are producing the war time propaganda for the enemy are very much part of the enemy.
    , @Brooklyn Dave
    Don't you think the majority of folks (of whatever political persuasion) are too glued to their gizmos while munching on genetically modified crap to even give a crap about a civil war. When you see mostly middle and lower middle class white people (for the most part) mobilizing, then I will know something is really up. Right now you have very small numbers of very politically aware people on the right (who mostly blog) getting out into the streets. There are enough hard core lefties who want a revolution too. These aren't the mindless antifa Sorosians who are getting paid - I'm talking about the ones behind the scenes - mostly in academia. Only when you start to notice noticeable numbers of white folks on the move, then you'll know something is up - because protesting doesn't come natural to white folks.
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  2. Comey wanted Mueller in there, and Mueller is doing what he will, because Mueller is there primarily to PROTECT Obama and Clinton and their vast left wing cabal, just like Comey did before he was canned.

    Mucking up Trump’s life and those of Trump’s people in the process is merely a sweet bonus. Not to mention the excellent distraction/diversion value that provides.

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    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
    The DC "swamp" has descended into criminality. Foremost among their misdeeds, the war crimes of the past 24 years. All the while, protected by the "DC Consigliere, Inc": the spook army of the Intel Community that monitors us all, the DoJ prosecutorial Praetorian guard, and the investigative "fix-is-in" FBI. And of course, in that period, the corporate presstitute media inundated the sheeple with "fakenews" war justifications, as they now inundate the sheeple with Trump-hate "fakenews".

    These are the forces arrayed against Pres Trump in his stated mission to "drain the swamp". On his side, Trump has the very substantial powers of the Presidency at his disposal, but only if he can manage to get the reins of power firmly in his grasp.

    There's the crucial "if". So far, the swamp has fought him successfully. The chickenshjt Congress has postured and harassed him, while the FBI, and CIA have sought to neuter him,... or worse. The leadership of these latter two organizations retain their power, remaining beyond presidential control, and unaccountable. So here I see Trump's first challenge: he must install a ferocious, Trump-loyal prosecutorial staff at DoJ, and an FBI not headed by a DC insider, but rather by someone who can be counted on to go after the swamp critters rather than protect them. (It's a damn shame Vincent Bugliosi, the author of "The Trial of George W Bush for Murder", is dead.)

    Note: make no mistake, Mueller and Comey are BFFs, and Mueller's "impeccable integrity and honor" is fictional. As FBI director after 911, he authorized the the numerous phony terrorist "plots" cooked up against indigent ghetto blacks. Bullshjt plots cynically intended to show the FBI's "diligence" in the fight against terrorism, and deflect from their 911 incompetence. That's the "honorable" Mr.Mueller. He is nothing but a hitman for the ruling class, and his mission is Trump's takedown. And Trump knows this.

    This is as close as possible to outright war in DC, but so far without actual bloodshed. Stay tuned. Trump is no pussy. The excitement has barely begun.
  3. Trump needs to go after the deep state and quit attempting to mollify it with actions such as support of Saudi terrorists. It is a fight to the finish and if the power structure wins, our days are numbered.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Kill Deep State by shutting off funding. Unclassify the whole intelligence budget. Then shut it down. Move the civilian intelligence functions to the military. Return FBI to a domestic agency covering federal crimes, not working closely with CIA or accompanying U.S. military in raids in Afghanistan and Middle East.
    , @anonymous
    Super-Mega-Evil Imperial terrorists supporting terror from all sides. You think the imperial terrorists can be defeated?
    , @Jeff Davis
    To take down the CIA, Trump should release the full 6700 page CIA Torture Report to the public, and arrest and charge with war crimes every one of the torturers and every CIA officer up the line right up to the CIA heads during the torture period: Tenet and Hayden.

    To deal with Congress, Trump should issue war crimes indictments to all who voted for the AUMF in Iraq and all who then voted for follow-on funding. Justification: The UN Charter as US Law courtesy of The "Supremacy" clause of the Constitution.

    Once Trump has the DoJ and the FBI under control, these are the swamp-draining tools at his disposal. DC arrogance blinds them to their vulnerability. They think they are untouchable. But Trump is no DC old-boy's-club insider. And he's no pussy. A certain phrase comes to mind regarding arrogant overreach:


    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
     
    And in regard to Mueller's effort to take Trump down: Trump is president and can declassify any damn thing he wants. He could declassify every scrap of evidence collected to this point by the House, Senate, FBI, and Mueller investigations up to this point. Webcams on everyone. Put the whole show out there in public view. Make the investigations totally transparent. Make it reality tv in real time on the internet, rather than a sneaky, veiled, back-room plot. Governement in the sunshine accompanied by a discussion of the whole nasty bullshjt business on facebook, twitter, reddit, instagram, etc. God would I like to see that. Mueller would shjt himself.

    Dare to dream.

  4. In addition to burning down the Bastille we must bring Mme Guillotine out of retirement.

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  5. Most people in this country don’t know what is going on and wouldn’t care if they did.

    Trump and this country are experiencing democracy’s waning time in action. And it ain’t pretty.

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  6. Trump is surrounded by judases. His own hand-picked people are not loyal to him, including his vice-president. Trump hasn’t shown any cojones that every one expected from him. One little crisis and he has surrendered himself to the neocons. Session is a weak man. He couldn’t even stand up to his old buddies who showed no respect to a fellow senator.

    We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

    We already have a civil war. It may be bloodless but it is a civil war which it appears Trump is destined to lose unless he shows some courage and brains to turn the scale against the insurgents.

    He should start by firing Rosenstein (sp) and Mueller and dare the congress to impeach him. He should take his case to the voters that had elected him and urge them to call on congress, especially, the Republicans to support him. He should go back to his pre-election agenda and start pulling the US out of the Middle East and make friendly overtures towards Russia. He also needs to rein in the intelligence commmunity and tell them to get off the Iran case and do some real intelligence work. Stop supporting all insurgents in the Middle East no matter what their affiliation.

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama’s executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can’t believe he hasn’t done this.

    Finally, I thought by now he should have learned that he cannot govern through the Tweeter. He needs to get off of that binge and get serious. So far he does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy. Bowing down to Israel and Saudi Arabia and do their bidding does not make a foreign policy. One is threatening him while the other is bribing him, neither is a true friend to the US. Except for the supreme court justice position, Trump has nothing to show for his domestic achievements. Republicans need to act as the majority party. They cannot let the Democrats run the congressional business.

    This cannot last for ever.

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    • Replies: @KenH

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama’s executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can’t believe he hasn’t done this.
     
    I agree, but I believe he's kept the EO in place since it's easier to find the leakers this way. But since they've only found Reality Winner thus far either they are progressing slowly or the people in charge of the investigation are actively sabotaging it and protecting some of the leakers.

    Trump better cancel the EO if and when the find all the leakers and if he doesn't he'll unmask himself as a fraud who's smitten by absolute government power. Defense of civil liberties has never been his strong suit.
    , @gda
    If you think he has "nothing to show for his domestic achievements" and that he "does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy" it suggests to me that you're either a Democratic troll, not paying attention, or just plain ignorant.

    One example - by pulling out of the Paris "Accord" he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.

    You can easily find the myriad of other domestic and foreign policy achievements if you really want. But its clear you really don't want.

    I find it amusing that you would side with the enemy in recommending he stop tweeting. How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency, BECAUSE he couldn't stop tweeting. They ALL were just as wrong as you are now.
    , @anonymous
    "...neither is a true friend to the US"

    You imply that the evil empire can actually be a true friend to others... which would be laughable, right?

    If not, how do you expect others to be just that??
  7. Great article … succinct overview. It’s a coup we are witnessing…

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    • Replies: @Jeff Davis
    With a little luck it will end like the Turkish coup, with all the coup plotters in jail.
  8. Pat

    Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia.

    It was always about the Democrats not being sure that Donald Trump had the vigor and enthusiasm to destroy Christian Russia and Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel.

    Honestly, why is Trump worth defending?

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    • Replies: @War for Blair Mountain
    Moreover...Donald Trump is hellbent on using the Native Born White Working Class Teeanage Male Population as canon fodder Greater Israel in the Middle East. Trump is a vile, evil creature who will rot in hell for an eternity for doing this....
    , @Corvinus
    "Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia."

    Let us assume there will be this impending war with Russia and/or China. Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction. Awesome!

    Would not this scenario actually benefit those on the Alt Right who believe this preferred course of action is necessary for a Christian reboot of our world? Perhaps nuclear holocaust IS the desired outcome.

    So, in the end, are we able to count on YOUR leadership as part of this Christian New World Order?
  9. @War for Blair Mountain
    Pat

    Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia.

    It was always about the Democrats not being sure that Donald Trump had the vigor and enthusiasm to destroy Christian Russia and Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel.

    Honestly, why is Trump worth defending?

    Moreover…Donald Trump is hellbent on using the Native Born White Working Class Teeanage Male Population as canon fodder Greater Israel in the Middle East. Trump is a vile, evil creature who will rot in hell for an eternity for doing this….

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Funny you should say that, because that last statement seems to describe you pretty well too.

    This world is so full of irony.

    "Native Born White Working Class Teeanage Male Population"
    Your favourite-st descriptive of that race of spiritual losers. LOL!!
  10. “… will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace.”

    As if they’re going to stop there. Those breaches of WH security a while back were the Deep State’s warning shot, and you see how quickly Trump about-faced in the ME.

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    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov

    Those breaches of WH security
     
    They also happened on Obama's and W's watch.
  11. @MEexpert
    Trump is surrounded by judases. His own hand-picked people are not loyal to him, including his vice-president. Trump hasn't shown any cojones that every one expected from him. One little crisis and he has surrendered himself to the neocons. Session is a weak man. He couldn't even stand up to his old buddies who showed no respect to a fellow senator.

    We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.
     
    We already have a civil war. It may be bloodless but it is a civil war which it appears Trump is destined to lose unless he shows some courage and brains to turn the scale against the insurgents.

    He should start by firing Rosenstein (sp) and Mueller and dare the congress to impeach him. He should take his case to the voters that had elected him and urge them to call on congress, especially, the Republicans to support him. He should go back to his pre-election agenda and start pulling the US out of the Middle East and make friendly overtures towards Russia. He also needs to rein in the intelligence commmunity and tell them to get off the Iran case and do some real intelligence work. Stop supporting all insurgents in the Middle East no matter what their affiliation.

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama's executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can't believe he hasn't done this.

    Finally, I thought by now he should have learned that he cannot govern through the Tweeter. He needs to get off of that binge and get serious. So far he does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy. Bowing down to Israel and Saudi Arabia and do their bidding does not make a foreign policy. One is threatening him while the other is bribing him, neither is a true friend to the US. Except for the supreme court justice position, Trump has nothing to show for his domestic achievements. Republicans need to act as the majority party. They cannot let the Democrats run the congressional business.

    This cannot last for ever.

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama’s executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can’t believe he hasn’t done this.

    I agree, but I believe he’s kept the EO in place since it’s easier to find the leakers this way. But since they’ve only found Reality Winner thus far either they are progressing slowly or the people in charge of the investigation are actively sabotaging it and protecting some of the leakers.

    Trump better cancel the EO if and when the find all the leakers and if he doesn’t he’ll unmask himself as a fraud who’s smitten by absolute government power. Defense of civil liberties has never been his strong suit.

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    • Replies: @george strong
    Wrong. No one but you cares about the EO. He should use the NSA to destroy his enemies, both Democrat and Republican.
  12. All good advice, Pat.

    But I’ve yet to see the sort of fighting spirit in Trump that’s required to prevail against such well-organized forces as the Deep State.

    If there’s to be civil war, it must start via White House instigation. They’re not there yet, although I agree that this is needed.

    LF

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  13. @The Alarmist

    "... will not relent until they see him impeached or resigning in disgrace."
     
    As if they're going to stop there. Those breaches of WH security a while back were the Deep State's warning shot, and you see how quickly Trump about-faced in the ME.

    Those breaches of WH security

    They also happened on Obama’s and W’s watch.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    Considering the Congressional whining and wailing about Snowden, why don't we see a vigorous persecution of the leakers? One by one, openly. What have the haters of Snowden been saying about sedition? The same big mouths are suddenly become silent.
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    @BenKenobi
    I don't know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

    I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

    Yep, and they live in geographically-small archipelagos surrounded by an ocean of deplorable America. They are pushing relentlessly to bring out the worst angels of our nature and cannot comprehend that there will be a breaking point and there’ll be no turning back. I guess they think they have Deep State and federal agencies so they have infinite power.

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  15. http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/robert-mueller-stocks-staff-democrat-donors/

    He should campaign against the real enemies of America First by promising to purge the deep state and flog its media collaborators.

    civil war time?

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    @exiled off mainstreet
    Trump needs to go after the deep state and quit attempting to mollify it with actions such as support of Saudi terrorists. It is a fight to the finish and if the power structure wins, our days are numbered.

    Kill Deep State by shutting off funding. Unclassify the whole intelligence budget. Then shut it down. Move the civilian intelligence functions to the military. Return FBI to a domestic agency covering federal crimes, not working closely with CIA or accompanying U.S. military in raids in Afghanistan and Middle East.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Reality Winner was ex-military. Bradley Manning was IN the military. Snowden (who I think did the right thing, fwiw) worked at NIOC, so was virtually a DoD civilian-- that entire place is crawling with navy staff.

    So There is no guarantee of military loyalty or propriety. That was a major objective of the democrat social engineering of the armed forces to remove the dixie warrior elite, or at least diminish their influence. They were successful.
  17. @BenKenobi
    I don't know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

    “I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.”

    By whom? Which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this “legitimacy”? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    See, if you are going to make this type of bold statement, then you best actually consider how it will be carried out and the consequences it entails.

    Idiot.

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    • Replies: @Realist
    "Idiot."

    At least now you are signing your comments.
    , @bluedog
    And of course your guessing or assuming when you really don't know war is hell so they say, and we are masters at starting them killing little children, what was the count in Iraq 100,000 500,000 thousand and the masters said it was worth it the problem with the American people including you is its alright as long as it happens in some other country but cry a river at the thoughts it could happen here,now who's the idiot?>>>
    , @Kudzu Bob
    What a bizarre, even nonsensical comment.

    You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don't you?

    It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war.

  18. @War for Blair Mountain
    Pat

    Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia.

    It was always about the Democrats not being sure that Donald Trump had the vigor and enthusiasm to destroy Christian Russia and Shia Muslim Iran for Greater Israel.

    Honestly, why is Trump worth defending?

    “Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia.”

    Let us assume there will be this impending war with Russia and/or China. Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction. Awesome!

    Would not this scenario actually benefit those on the Alt Right who believe this preferred course of action is necessary for a Christian reboot of our world? Perhaps nuclear holocaust IS the desired outcome.

    So, in the end, are we able to count on YOUR leadership as part of this Christian New World Order?

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    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    The important things is that you aren't around after the nuclear fires burn down.
    , @Autochthon
    I came across this gem becauseI often find interesting the Blair Mountaineer's comments (I ignore Corpenis as a matter of course):

    Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction.
     
    Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on. And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily. For the love of God, please let's do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A. Hell, I'm too old to be drafted (I think; I've not checked that law in a long time) but still young enough to serve, and I'd volunteer to re-up in a heartbeat for that one.

    Corpenis remains as stupid as ever. Carry on, jackass.
  19. @KenH

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama’s executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can’t believe he hasn’t done this.
     
    I agree, but I believe he's kept the EO in place since it's easier to find the leakers this way. But since they've only found Reality Winner thus far either they are progressing slowly or the people in charge of the investigation are actively sabotaging it and protecting some of the leakers.

    Trump better cancel the EO if and when the find all the leakers and if he doesn't he'll unmask himself as a fraud who's smitten by absolute government power. Defense of civil liberties has never been his strong suit.

    Wrong. No one but you cares about the EO. He should use the NSA to destroy his enemies, both Democrat and Republican.

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  20. Trump doesn’t even have the good sense or guts to tell his air-head daughter to shut up and knit some mittens for her kids, or to have his shyster son in law get out of government, and mind his own business, which is apparently shady financial and real estate deals and supporting zion.

    Trump was useful to defeat Hillary, and now that he has served his purpose, the search for a real American patriot and nationalist leader needs to intensify. Trump was never that person.

    I think the nation could come unglued, but I don’t see the military joining in, at least not on the side of nationalists against the government. The average American soldier seems to be a PC brainwashed, globalist stooge, and the officer class appears to be made up of weak-minded careerists and yes men, little different from the soldiers, so I don’t see much help coming from them. Add that to the fact that the government is trying to pass laws giving amnesty to illegals who will join a U.S. military that already has many soldiers of foreign birth or roots, and I don’t see much help coming from the military, which seems to become more distant from the population as time goes by.

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  21. It is hard to believe how naive or stupid Trump has been. He should have fired Comey and hundreds of others in the deep state when he raised his hand from the bible. He should have confronted those in his party that are out to destroy him Why did he waste his time interviewing loser like Romney? Was he serious about their possible usefulness? Trump doesn’t seem to know that he is under assault. He needs to start some serious ass kicking.
    His involvement in world affairs is stupid and dangerous. He is belligerent and menacing to Russia, Iran, China and middle-eastern countries that Israel doesn’t like. This country’s existence is at stake and needs all the attention of this administration. Our entanglement in world affairs is not warranted.

    “Trump has had many accomplishments since his election.”

    None of significance.

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    • Replies: @gda
    Ignorant troll alert.
    , @jilles dykstra
    I suppose Trump knows quite well why Kennedy died: too many enemies.
  22. @Corvinus
    "I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets."

    By whom? Which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    See, if you are going to make this type of bold statement, then you best actually consider how it will be carried out and the consequences it entails.

    Idiot.

    “Idiot.”

    At least now you are signing your comments.

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  23. @MEexpert
    Trump is surrounded by judases. His own hand-picked people are not loyal to him, including his vice-president. Trump hasn't shown any cojones that every one expected from him. One little crisis and he has surrendered himself to the neocons. Session is a weak man. He couldn't even stand up to his old buddies who showed no respect to a fellow senator.

    We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.
     
    We already have a civil war. It may be bloodless but it is a civil war which it appears Trump is destined to lose unless he shows some courage and brains to turn the scale against the insurgents.

    He should start by firing Rosenstein (sp) and Mueller and dare the congress to impeach him. He should take his case to the voters that had elected him and urge them to call on congress, especially, the Republicans to support him. He should go back to his pre-election agenda and start pulling the US out of the Middle East and make friendly overtures towards Russia. He also needs to rein in the intelligence commmunity and tell them to get off the Iran case and do some real intelligence work. Stop supporting all insurgents in the Middle East no matter what their affiliation.

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama's executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can't believe he hasn't done this.

    Finally, I thought by now he should have learned that he cannot govern through the Tweeter. He needs to get off of that binge and get serious. So far he does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy. Bowing down to Israel and Saudi Arabia and do their bidding does not make a foreign policy. One is threatening him while the other is bribing him, neither is a true friend to the US. Except for the supreme court justice position, Trump has nothing to show for his domestic achievements. Republicans need to act as the majority party. They cannot let the Democrats run the congressional business.

    This cannot last for ever.

    If you think he has “nothing to show for his domestic achievements” and that he “does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy” it suggests to me that you’re either a Democratic troll, not paying attention, or just plain ignorant.

    One example – by pulling out of the Paris “Accord” he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.

    You can easily find the myriad of other domestic and foreign policy achievements if you really want. But its clear you really don’t want.

    I find it amusing that you would side with the enemy in recommending he stop tweeting. How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency, BECAUSE he couldn’t stop tweeting. They ALL were just as wrong as you are now.

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    • Replies: @MEexpert

    How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency,
     
    I don't know, because I never said it. LOL. I voted for Trump. So much for your insight into my motives.

    One example – by pulling out of the Paris “Accord” he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.
     
    All this is in the future and unknown. $100 trillions sounds great but who came up with this outrageous number. I am talking about now. If he ends the war, the payoff will be immediate with savings in material cost and lives.

    I want him to stop tweeting and pay attention to the consequences of his actions. I don't think he had any idea that the country he was bragging about ostracizing is the host to the largest US military base in the Middle East. Rex Tillerson had to remind him of that.
    , @animalogic
    Re: Paris ? As the whole accord was non-binding, & placed exactly zero obligations on the US, Trump's withdrawal amounts to a media stunt. I guess it plays to his base, which is fair enough, but, let's forget all the scare figures etc: the US could implement the accord however they wanted -- just like the other nations.
    As for any negative affects on friends or allies: the question for the US is whether they have lost any leverage or any opportunities....
  24. @Realist
    It is hard to believe how naive or stupid Trump has been. He should have fired Comey and hundreds of others in the deep state when he raised his hand from the bible. He should have confronted those in his party that are out to destroy him Why did he waste his time interviewing loser like Romney? Was he serious about their possible usefulness? Trump doesn't seem to know that he is under assault. He needs to start some serious ass kicking.
    His involvement in world affairs is stupid and dangerous. He is belligerent and menacing to Russia, Iran, China and middle-eastern countries that Israel doesn't like. This country's existence is at stake and needs all the attention of this administration. Our entanglement in world affairs is not warranted.

    "Trump has had many accomplishments since his election."

    None of significance.

    Ignorant troll alert.

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  25. I have the names of the traitors all knitted in my scarf!

    Madame De Farge

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    • Replies: @Bel Riose
    Did you spell "Corvinus" correctly?
    , @Veritatis
    LOL . I instantly thought of H. Clinton and her list. Evil witches both.
    , @Delinquent Snail
    That must be the longest scarf in the northern hemisphere!
  26. @Corvinus
    "I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets."

    By whom? Which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    See, if you are going to make this type of bold statement, then you best actually consider how it will be carried out and the consequences it entails.

    Idiot.

    And of course your guessing or assuming when you really don’t know war is hell so they say, and we are masters at starting them killing little children, what was the count in Iraq 100,000 500,000 thousand and the masters said it was worth it the problem with the American people including you is its alright as long as it happens in some other country but cry a river at the thoughts it could happen here,now who’s the idiot?>>>

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  27. June 16, 2016 Supreme Court Ruling: Police Have No Duty to Protect the General Public

    However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.

    http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

    Aug 7, 2013 Did You Know #1 – The Myth of Police Protection

    Did you know that the police have *NO DUTY* to protect you? In this episode of DYK, we examine the myth of police protection by first looking at the popular view of police, then contrasting it with the cases of Jessica Gonzales and Joe Lozita.

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    Your right of course a few years back when they were trying to break age old treaties on the Indian reservations here in N.Y. we were part of the protesters, and a state trooper told us "we are not here to protect the people we are here to protect the state",and that's the way it is...
    , @Corvinus
    "However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety."

    Fake News Story.

    First, what specific court case from 2016 are you referring to? You nor the source lists it. Peculiar, to say the least.

    Second, the source you cited contains essential missing details regarding the Castle Rock v. Gonzales case from 2005. The decision rendered was that a police department could not be sued for failing to enforce a restraining order. The Late Justice Antonin Scalia, an ardent conservative, wrote the majority opinion, stating that enforcement of the restraining order was not mandatory under Colorado law since enforcement of a restraining order entails a process, that only until there was a vocalized, specific threat made would the police be compelled undergo this process. The defendant had been allowed weekly visits with his three daughters, but picked them up in the front yard without contacting his wife. The restraining order language specified only non-contact with his former wife, NOT his three children. Moreover, according to a 911 tape, when she asked about the order, she said her ex-husband was allowed to visit the girls. Thus, there had been no reasonable suspicion for the police to arrest her husband for violating the restraining order.
    , @jacques sheete
    If we extrapolate the concept from one government agency to the whole thing we'll find the true purpose of government, particularly a large, centralized, aggressive, debt-ridden, money printing one infested with obnoxious, sinecure-seeking, parasites from top to bottom.

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion - Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=228&chapter=36940&layout=html&Itemid=27#a_1585595

     

    And for those advocating a violent revolution, pay attention...

    [The masses], as no one may deny, have often risen against governments extorting too high a price for their services, or threatening to overwhelm them with intolerable burdens, but the success of such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters, and the new governing class has usually been larger and of inferior quality. The result of these revolutions has been what it always must be—augmented burdens and a recrudescence of the State of War.23
    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion - Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
     
    Historically violent revolutions burn themselves out rather rapidly and are soon co-opted by the money bag crowd. The lesson, therefore is that what's required is a revolution of the spirit, but I don't see that happening any time soon.
  28. Jul 17, 2008 Obama Civilian Security

    Is Obama planning to have a Civilian Security Force in addition to the military?

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  29. @Agent76
    June 16, 2016 Supreme Court Ruling: Police Have No Duty to Protect the General Public

    However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.

    http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

    Aug 7, 2013 Did You Know #1 - The Myth of Police Protection

    Did you know that the police have *NO DUTY* to protect you? In this episode of DYK, we examine the myth of police protection by first looking at the popular view of police, then contrasting it with the cases of Jessica Gonzales and Joe Lozita.

    https://youtu.be/2BN6Q5cygCs

    Your right of course a few years back when they were trying to break age old treaties on the Indian reservations here in N.Y. we were part of the protesters, and a state trooper told us “we are not here to protect the people we are here to protect the state”,and that’s the way it is…

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    • Replies: @Sowhat
    I agree. Simple search the history of policing in the U.S.
  30. @Corvinus
    "Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia."

    Let us assume there will be this impending war with Russia and/or China. Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction. Awesome!

    Would not this scenario actually benefit those on the Alt Right who believe this preferred course of action is necessary for a Christian reboot of our world? Perhaps nuclear holocaust IS the desired outcome.

    So, in the end, are we able to count on YOUR leadership as part of this Christian New World Order?

    The important things is that you aren’t around after the nuclear fires burn down.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The important things is that you aren’t around after the nuclear fires burn down."

    We ALL won't be here. And I see that you finally came out of the woodwork. I'm surprised you came back. Recall that you asked me this question--“Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    I supplied the requisite links. Somehow you avoided a rebuttal. Interesting to say the least.
  31. @Minnesota Mary
    I have the names of the traitors all knitted in my scarf!

    Madame De Farge

    Did you spell “Corvinus” correctly?

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  32. @gda
    If you think he has "nothing to show for his domestic achievements" and that he "does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy" it suggests to me that you're either a Democratic troll, not paying attention, or just plain ignorant.

    One example - by pulling out of the Paris "Accord" he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.

    You can easily find the myriad of other domestic and foreign policy achievements if you really want. But its clear you really don't want.

    I find it amusing that you would side with the enemy in recommending he stop tweeting. How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency, BECAUSE he couldn't stop tweeting. They ALL were just as wrong as you are now.

    How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency,

    I don’t know, because I never said it. LOL. I voted for Trump. So much for your insight into my motives.

    One example – by pulling out of the Paris “Accord” he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.

    All this is in the future and unknown. $100 trillions sounds great but who came up with this outrageous number. I am talking about now. If he ends the war, the payoff will be immediate with savings in material cost and lives.

    I want him to stop tweeting and pay attention to the consequences of his actions. I don’t think he had any idea that the country he was bragging about ostracizing is the host to the largest US military base in the Middle East. Rex Tillerson had to remind him of that.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    Qatar may well be not a problem:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/06/14/us-signs-12-billion-deal-to-sell-f-15s-to-qatar/

    It sounds like a standard case of "nice country you have here, shame if there was a blocade ... "

    We will see whether the next news cycle will "delist" Qatar again.

    I hear that earlier Mattis tried to blame the Qatar dustup on "fake news" planted by hackers, which morphed into "russian hackers".

    So in the end it will be Putin's evil hand and 12 billion USD going to the MIC for oldish planes (apparently 36 of them)
  33. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Kill Deep State by shutting off funding. Unclassify the whole intelligence budget. Then shut it down. Move the civilian intelligence functions to the military. Return FBI to a domestic agency covering federal crimes, not working closely with CIA or accompanying U.S. military in raids in Afghanistan and Middle East.

    Reality Winner was ex-military. Bradley Manning was IN the military. Snowden (who I think did the right thing, fwiw) worked at NIOC, so was virtually a DoD civilian– that entire place is crawling with navy staff.

    So There is no guarantee of military loyalty or propriety. That was a major objective of the democrat social engineering of the armed forces to remove the dixie warrior elite, or at least diminish their influence. They were successful.

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  34. So far, Trump has not shown the requisite amount of intelligence or courage, necessary to take on, let alone defeat, the forces arrayed against him.

    His first 10o days may have sealed his fate. Rather than take the initiative, and launch investigations into Mrs. Clinton’s criminal empire, keep all his promises on immigration i.e. end DACA and reinstitute internal immigration enforcement, begin building the wall, etc. He gave up all of his potential leverage and got nothing in return. So much for the Art of the Deal.

    Trump created a vacuum by failing to keep his promises, and his enemies are now using it as a snipers nest.

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  35. @Corvinus
    "I don’t know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets."

    By whom? Which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    See, if you are going to make this type of bold statement, then you best actually consider how it will be carried out and the consequences it entails.

    Idiot.

    What a bizarre, even nonsensical comment.

    You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don’t you?

    It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war.

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    "You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don’t you?"

    That would be The Civil War. And journalists were "rounded up" when they were captured on enemy territory, or were arrested on their home ground in the North and South by military commanders who actually decided what reporters and correspondents to target to suppress dissent. When you stated "a great many", what numbers are we talking about?

    "It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war."

    If there is another civil war, and if the opposing sides are unabashedly intolerant of dissent.
    , @Coemgen
    Someone who is thoughtful enough to type "War Between the States" instead of "Civil War" should block commenter Corvinus.
  36. Doubt we will see a civil war, the GOP and the deep state are showing their opposition to Trump, a demonstration of the power they have to control the narrative and weaken his administration. Trump has no allies in the Senate, nor in the FBI, Media, Universities or in the military.

    none of these nonsense show trills would exist , if not for the hatred our GOP politicians have for the American people who elected Trump.

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    • Replies: @Mika-Non
    That's the essence of it. We can't and won't have a civil war because a civil war requires at least two sides to fight it, and both political parties, all of the institutions, government apparatus, mass media, corporations, and the ruling tribe are on the same side.

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day, but what we're seeing is that even half of the population is pretty much powerless in the face of the Empire's juggernaut.

    In my view, the Republicans deserve our special ire because they were in a position to help bring about real change, with this singular opportunity, and they wanted no part of it. Fortunately, their party is toast and we'll enjoy a cataclysm before anyone takes their place. The Democrats? We knew what to expect from them, and still do. They are wrecking this nation systematically.

    Trump would have to be a canny, electrifying, compelling and savvy figure to have even a chance. He's not. We never thought he would be, mind you; we just knew he'd be better than Hillary. Meanwhile, the Empire Strikes Back.

    It's not going to be pretty.

    , @DanCT
    I agree, having formerly been a registered Republican for decades. The Republican establishment could have put a stop to this immediately and are probably enjoying letting the Democrats do their dirty work for them in neutering President Trump.

    Despite the eye wash, the GOP leadership's chief function is effectively disenfranchising the majority of the electorate until demographics bury us in our own country.
  37. @Travis
    Doubt we will see a civil war, the GOP and the deep state are showing their opposition to Trump, a demonstration of the power they have to control the narrative and weaken his administration. Trump has no allies in the Senate, nor in the FBI, Media, Universities or in the military.

    none of these nonsense show trills would exist , if not for the hatred our GOP politicians have for the American people who elected Trump.

    That’s the essence of it. We can’t and won’t have a civil war because a civil war requires at least two sides to fight it, and both political parties, all of the institutions, government apparatus, mass media, corporations, and the ruling tribe are on the same side.

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day, but what we’re seeing is that even half of the population is pretty much powerless in the face of the Empire’s juggernaut.

    In my view, the Republicans deserve our special ire because they were in a position to help bring about real change, with this singular opportunity, and they wanted no part of it. Fortunately, their party is toast and we’ll enjoy a cataclysm before anyone takes their place. The Democrats? We knew what to expect from them, and still do. They are wrecking this nation systematically.

    Trump would have to be a canny, electrifying, compelling and savvy figure to have even a chance. He’s not. We never thought he would be, mind you; we just knew he’d be better than Hillary. Meanwhile, the Empire Strikes Back.

    It’s not going to be pretty.

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    • Replies: @Darin

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day
     
    Half of the population do not register to vote, do not vote, do not care about the whole circus. This is not how country at the brink of civil war looks like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEGSe_upuQ

    This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like.
    , @Travis
    good points. The coup attempt is certainly is the fault of the GOP politicians more than the democrats. The GOP would prefer a President Pence while the democrats would rather have Trump remain in office so they can continue their relentless attacks and get more donations to fill their coffers

    Although 30% of Americans support Trump, and see him as much better than the alternatives, the typically Trump support is over the age of 40 , passed the age at which one fights in a civil war.
  38. “Their ( the Republicans) party is toast”

    Why is their party toast?

    For one simple reason :

    They are terrified of being labeled : RACISTS, and the democrats do indeed pull the racist card for each and any issue.

    I have been saying for months and years there is only one solution to this dilema and that being the republicans MUST start labeling democrats : RACIST 24/7, and thereby turn the narrative upside down. There is and will not be any other effective action.

    The Republicans could cause a political earthquake in their favor, by simply reminding or informing the general public , on a daily basis, of the history of the KKK, as no young american kid, black brown or white has a clue as to the nature or genesis of this organisation, and by the school system simply never mentioning the roots of it, the KKK, this has led to the automatic assumption that it was a republican creation.

    Presidential tweets starting off with the phrase : ” Democrats, party of the KKK”, would be an effective beginning.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    Maybe a little less tweeting and more representation of the people would serve him better, and both parties are corrupt I see in the latest Gallup poll almost 70% say the government is corrupt and that fails to bode well for any country..
    , @Anonymous
    Nah, doesn't matter. Political party doesn't matter. The same fate. The sociological and political fate of our country is almost as determined as our genes. We will be a Brazil with nukes soon enough. The ruling class makes a show of being diverse (Democrats AND Republicans) but I guess they believe they and their children will always be separated from the shanty towns. They have one overarching feeling about toward Deplorable America: sucks to be them.

    I worked for a government agency. I was once offered a job by a Congressman (R). I never pursued it. A year later I was talking with a guy who worked for a Congresswoman (D) and mentioned the job offer I never pursued. He said, "Are you crazy? You'd be set for life." I then mentioned how I'd worried about giving up my federal employment and possibly be out a job if this Congressman lost the next election. He said, "It doesn't matter. You'd be offered a $200k position starting out working for a government contractor. Political party doesn't matter. They look out for each other." I sometimes regret not taking the job. I could be living a much better life. Che sara, sara.

    The people of the Swamp are hostage to the Devil.

    , @Father O'Hara
    The Klan was the good guys.
    , @Stonehands
    Actually, white people need grow a sack and embrace the term racist. THIS is the only way this cuckholdry will end.
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    The evil empire owes the world a cold refreshing glass of schadenfreude.

    So, on with it then!!

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  40. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @exiled off mainstreet
    Trump needs to go after the deep state and quit attempting to mollify it with actions such as support of Saudi terrorists. It is a fight to the finish and if the power structure wins, our days are numbered.

    Super-Mega-Evil Imperial terrorists supporting terror from all sides. You think the imperial terrorists can be defeated?

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  41. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @MEexpert
    Trump is surrounded by judases. His own hand-picked people are not loyal to him, including his vice-president. Trump hasn't shown any cojones that every one expected from him. One little crisis and he has surrendered himself to the neocons. Session is a weak man. He couldn't even stand up to his old buddies who showed no respect to a fellow senator.

    We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.
     
    We already have a civil war. It may be bloodless but it is a civil war which it appears Trump is destined to lose unless he shows some courage and brains to turn the scale against the insurgents.

    He should start by firing Rosenstein (sp) and Mueller and dare the congress to impeach him. He should take his case to the voters that had elected him and urge them to call on congress, especially, the Republicans to support him. He should go back to his pre-election agenda and start pulling the US out of the Middle East and make friendly overtures towards Russia. He also needs to rein in the intelligence commmunity and tell them to get off the Iran case and do some real intelligence work. Stop supporting all insurgents in the Middle East no matter what their affiliation.

    From the beginning I have posted on this site that Trump should cancel Obama's executive order allowing NSA to share its intelligence with other agencies unless they officially request it. I can't believe he hasn't done this.

    Finally, I thought by now he should have learned that he cannot govern through the Tweeter. He needs to get off of that binge and get serious. So far he does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy. Bowing down to Israel and Saudi Arabia and do their bidding does not make a foreign policy. One is threatening him while the other is bribing him, neither is a true friend to the US. Except for the supreme court justice position, Trump has nothing to show for his domestic achievements. Republicans need to act as the majority party. They cannot let the Democrats run the congressional business.

    This cannot last for ever.

    “…neither is a true friend to the US”

    You imply that the evil empire can actually be a true friend to others… which would be laughable, right?

    If not, how do you expect others to be just that??

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  42. @Authenticjazzman
    "Their ( the Republicans) party is toast"

    Why is their party toast?

    For one simple reason :

    They are terrified of being labeled : RACISTS, and the democrats do indeed pull the racist card for each and any issue.

    I have been saying for months and years there is only one solution to this dilema and that being the republicans MUST start labeling democrats : RACIST 24/7, and thereby turn the narrative upside down. There is and will not be any other effective action.

    The Republicans could cause a political earthquake in their favor, by simply reminding or informing the general public , on a daily basis, of the history of the KKK, as no young american kid, black brown or white has a clue as to the nature or genesis of this organisation, and by the school system simply never mentioning the roots of it, the KKK, this has led to the automatic assumption that it was a republican creation.

    Presidential tweets starting off with the phrase : " Democrats, party of the KKK", would be an effective beginning.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Maybe a little less tweeting and more representation of the people would serve him better, and both parties are corrupt I see in the latest Gallup poll almost 70% say the government is corrupt and that fails to bode well for any country..

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  43. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Authenticjazzman
    "Their ( the Republicans) party is toast"

    Why is their party toast?

    For one simple reason :

    They are terrified of being labeled : RACISTS, and the democrats do indeed pull the racist card for each and any issue.

    I have been saying for months and years there is only one solution to this dilema and that being the republicans MUST start labeling democrats : RACIST 24/7, and thereby turn the narrative upside down. There is and will not be any other effective action.

    The Republicans could cause a political earthquake in their favor, by simply reminding or informing the general public , on a daily basis, of the history of the KKK, as no young american kid, black brown or white has a clue as to the nature or genesis of this organisation, and by the school system simply never mentioning the roots of it, the KKK, this has led to the automatic assumption that it was a republican creation.

    Presidential tweets starting off with the phrase : " Democrats, party of the KKK", would be an effective beginning.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Nah, doesn’t matter. Political party doesn’t matter. The same fate. The sociological and political fate of our country is almost as determined as our genes. We will be a Brazil with nukes soon enough. The ruling class makes a show of being diverse (Democrats AND Republicans) but I guess they believe they and their children will always be separated from the shanty towns. They have one overarching feeling about toward Deplorable America: sucks to be them.

    I worked for a government agency. I was once offered a job by a Congressman (R). I never pursued it. A year later I was talking with a guy who worked for a Congresswoman (D) and mentioned the job offer I never pursued. He said, “Are you crazy? You’d be set for life.” I then mentioned how I’d worried about giving up my federal employment and possibly be out a job if this Congressman lost the next election. He said, “It doesn’t matter. You’d be offered a $200k position starting out working for a government contractor. Political party doesn’t matter. They look out for each other.” I sometimes regret not taking the job. I could be living a much better life. Che sara, sara.

    The people of the Swamp are hostage to the Devil.

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    Political party doesn’t matter.
     
    So true, and many politicians have said that. Too bad it's still a secret!

    In practically no other contests has the electorate had for all practical purposes a choice except between two candidates, identical as far as their political role would be as representatives of the significant classes in the State.
    -Randolph Bourne, The State, From Untimely Papers (1919).
    Randolph Bourne left an unfinished, unpaginated draft of The State when he died during the flu pandemic of 1918.

     


    “Well, these four hundred men, whether they were Democrats or Republicans, were willing to do anything to help each other. They were all in the same boat, regardless of party, and so they made rules and did things to help each other get elected...”

    -Jeanette Rankin, interview

    http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt758005dx&brand=calisphere&doc.view=entire_text
     

    Both of the dominant political parties for a long time have been and still are directed by “big business.” That is why no one can point to any existing material issue between the two, except that each wants the official “jobs.” “Jobs” are their only material existing issue, and they play the political game for jobs.


    For “special privilege” to own a half-dozen Senators of ability who at the same time are sharp enough to make the voters believe that they are independent, is worth billions of dollars annually to special privilege and is a corresponding loss to the people.

    - Charles August Lindbergh

    Why Is Your Country At War And What Happens To You After The War: And Related Subjects (1917)

    Lindbergh was elected to the U.S. House of Representativesin 1906, as a Republican, serving in the 60th, 61st, 62nd, 63rd, and 64th congresses. He was a member of the House Banking and currency committee when the Federal Reserve Act was passed which he opposed.

     


    Roosevelt then said : "Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences, and I am going to organize a new party a new political party in this country based upon progressive principles.

    R. F. PETTIGREW, TRIUMPHANT PLUTOCRACY , The Story or American Public Life from 1870 to 1920, p237
    Formerly United States Senator from South Dakota
     
  44. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @War for Blair Mountain
    Moreover...Donald Trump is hellbent on using the Native Born White Working Class Teeanage Male Population as canon fodder Greater Israel in the Middle East. Trump is a vile, evil creature who will rot in hell for an eternity for doing this....

    Funny you should say that, because that last statement seems to describe you pretty well too.

    This world is so full of irony.

    “Native Born White Working Class Teeanage Male Population”
    Your favourite-st descriptive of that race of spiritual losers. LOL!!

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  45. @Bel Riose
    The important things is that you aren't around after the nuclear fires burn down.

    “The important things is that you aren’t around after the nuclear fires burn down.”

    We ALL won’t be here. And I see that you finally came out of the woodwork. I’m surprised you came back. Recall that you asked me this question–“Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    I supplied the requisite links. Somehow you avoided a rebuttal. Interesting to say the least.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Been watxhing too many movies again, have you?

    For one thing, a war among China, Russia, and what used to be the U.S.A. willalmoat certainly not involve significant, or even any, use of nuclear weapons, as noneof these places is yet run by a simpleton or madman in the mould of, say, Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Un (or you!).

    For another thing, even a nasty nucelar exhange among those nations has no chance of causing the extinction of the human race; indeed, if it caused us all to revert to the Stone Age and decimated the human population to, say, less than a billion, it would probably be a net benefit ecologically, on a planetary scale, over what is happening now.

    You are an innumerate dumbass who does not understand physics or military science.

  46. @Kudzu Bob
    What a bizarre, even nonsensical comment.

    You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don't you?

    It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war.

    “You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don’t you?”

    That would be The Civil War. And journalists were “rounded up” when they were captured on enemy territory, or were arrested on their home ground in the North and South by military commanders who actually decided what reporters and correspondents to target to suppress dissent. When you stated “a great many”, what numbers are we talking about?

    “It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war.”

    If there is another civil war, and if the opposing sides are unabashedly intolerant of dissent.

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    Hilarious! You've moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn't be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression.
    , @jacques sheete

    The Civil War
     
    "The?"

    FYI, the revolution of '76 was a "civil" war as well. The original poster is correct.
  47. @Agent76
    June 16, 2016 Supreme Court Ruling: Police Have No Duty to Protect the General Public

    However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.

    http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

    Aug 7, 2013 Did You Know #1 - The Myth of Police Protection

    Did you know that the police have *NO DUTY* to protect you? In this episode of DYK, we examine the myth of police protection by first looking at the popular view of police, then contrasting it with the cases of Jessica Gonzales and Joe Lozita.

    https://youtu.be/2BN6Q5cygCs

    “However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.”

    Fake News Story.

    First, what specific court case from 2016 are you referring to? You nor the source lists it. Peculiar, to say the least.

    Second, the source you cited contains essential missing details regarding the Castle Rock v. Gonzales case from 2005. The decision rendered was that a police department could not be sued for failing to enforce a restraining order. The Late Justice Antonin Scalia, an ardent conservative, wrote the majority opinion, stating that enforcement of the restraining order was not mandatory under Colorado law since enforcement of a restraining order entails a process, that only until there was a vocalized, specific threat made would the police be compelled undergo this process. The defendant had been allowed weekly visits with his three daughters, but picked them up in the front yard without contacting his wife. The restraining order language specified only non-contact with his former wife, NOT his three children. Moreover, according to a 911 tape, when she asked about the order, she said her ex-husband was allowed to visit the girls. Thus, there had been no reasonable suspicion for the police to arrest her husband for violating the restraining order.

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?
  48. @Mika-Non
    That's the essence of it. We can't and won't have a civil war because a civil war requires at least two sides to fight it, and both political parties, all of the institutions, government apparatus, mass media, corporations, and the ruling tribe are on the same side.

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day, but what we're seeing is that even half of the population is pretty much powerless in the face of the Empire's juggernaut.

    In my view, the Republicans deserve our special ire because they were in a position to help bring about real change, with this singular opportunity, and they wanted no part of it. Fortunately, their party is toast and we'll enjoy a cataclysm before anyone takes their place. The Democrats? We knew what to expect from them, and still do. They are wrecking this nation systematically.

    Trump would have to be a canny, electrifying, compelling and savvy figure to have even a chance. He's not. We never thought he would be, mind you; we just knew he'd be better than Hillary. Meanwhile, the Empire Strikes Back.

    It's not going to be pretty.

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day

    Half of the population do not register to vote, do not vote, do not care about the whole circus. This is not how country at the brink of civil war looks like.

    This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like."

    How anti-white of you to only show one side of the high-caloric intake valve of the our population.
    You conveniently left out the gluttonous Jews, the portly mestizos, and of course those fatty blacks. Get with the program here.
    , @FLgeezer
    Hilarious! Thanks Darin.
  49. @Darin

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day
     
    Half of the population do not register to vote, do not vote, do not care about the whole circus. This is not how country at the brink of civil war looks like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEGSe_upuQ

    This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like.

    “This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like.”

    How anti-white of you to only show one side of the high-caloric intake valve of the our population.
    You conveniently left out the gluttonous Jews, the portly mestizos, and of course those fatty blacks. Get with the program here.

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    • Replies: @wj
    http://stateofobesity.org/disparities/

    Obesity Rates -
    All Adults - 34.9%
    Black - 47.8%
    Latino - 42.5%
    White - 32.6%
  50. Authentic Jazzman: The last thing a young dindu cares about is whether the Klan was supported by the Democrats of sixty years ago; you sound as silly as Limbaugh: “Dems are the real racists”. Maybe we should talk about Robert Byrd some more; that will help our side a lot.

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    • Replies: @Authenticjazzman
    This issue is not about "dindus" rather but is pertaining to the huge lie by ommission committed by the leftist edumacators, with which they, through this perfidious ommission, with which they assume that the great majority of air-brained high-school and college kids will automatically view the republicans as the creators of the KKK, and other racist actions.

    And as far as the democrats being the real racists: this is fact beyond debate, and I have experienced a mulitude of events, which I will not elaborate on, which certify this viewpoint.

    Regarding RL's "sillyness" : I love RL and he has never had an expression of "sillyness" leave his mouth.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

  51. @Mika-Non
    That's the essence of it. We can't and won't have a civil war because a civil war requires at least two sides to fight it, and both political parties, all of the institutions, government apparatus, mass media, corporations, and the ruling tribe are on the same side.

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day, but what we're seeing is that even half of the population is pretty much powerless in the face of the Empire's juggernaut.

    In my view, the Republicans deserve our special ire because they were in a position to help bring about real change, with this singular opportunity, and they wanted no part of it. Fortunately, their party is toast and we'll enjoy a cataclysm before anyone takes their place. The Democrats? We knew what to expect from them, and still do. They are wrecking this nation systematically.

    Trump would have to be a canny, electrifying, compelling and savvy figure to have even a chance. He's not. We never thought he would be, mind you; we just knew he'd be better than Hillary. Meanwhile, the Empire Strikes Back.

    It's not going to be pretty.

    good points. The coup attempt is certainly is the fault of the GOP politicians more than the democrats. The GOP would prefer a President Pence while the democrats would rather have Trump remain in office so they can continue their relentless attacks and get more donations to fill their coffers

    Although 30% of Americans support Trump, and see him as much better than the alternatives, the typically Trump support is over the age of 40 , passed the age at which one fights in a civil war.

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    "Although 30% of Americans support DT"

    Okay so just which point are you trying to drive home here?

    Are you implying that 70% of Americans support HC.

    Be specific and don't push false premises by employing the major weapon of the democrats/leftists namely : ommission.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.
  52. @Kudzu Bob
    What a bizarre, even nonsensical comment.

    You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don't you?

    It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war.

    Someone who is thoughtful enough to type “War Between the States” instead of “Civil War” should block commenter Corvinus.

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    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    You're right. Corvinus really is an imbecile, isn't he?
    , @Anonymous Nephew
    I've said it many a time and oft, "debating" a bad-faith troll is the biggest waste of time at a keyboard since Solitaire came bundled with Win 3.0. Why bother?
  53. I’m going out on a limb to say that fifty-odd rounds sprayed at a politically selected, high-value target-rich environment with a military grade rifle (7.62 mm) is akin to a Harper’s Ferry-type prelude to a war, call it by any name you choose.

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  54. Let’s all say it together:

    MARTIAL LAW

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    • Replies: @Dube
    That appears to be the upshot of the events.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Duterte! Du30
  55. Mike Whitney and Pat Buchanan draw the same conclusions from Comey’s deliberate leaking to try to overturn democracy. Who’d have guessed that those two would ever agree.

    Well, me perhaps. I’d long noticed that I could walk between camps at an anti-Obama protest. Leaving my lefty friends to go over and talk with the Tea Party camp. Could easily do so because both groups agreed on a lot of things. Maybe 80%. For civility, one could avoid the other 20%. And one did have to speak different languages in the same camps. But both camps largely agreed.

    Ever since I support Ron Paul as the only anti-war candidate in the ’12 primaries, I’ve started calling myself a “Member of the Opposition”. I’m not lefty, I’m not righty. I’ve decided to ignore the many trolls who tell the Left to hate the Right and the Right to hate the Left. Neither is the real enemy.

    When Mike Whitney and Pat Buchanan agree, then that tells you who the real opponent is. All of us should unite as “Members of the Opposition” to stand up to them.

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  56. @Corvinus
    "You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don’t you?"

    That would be The Civil War. And journalists were "rounded up" when they were captured on enemy territory, or were arrested on their home ground in the North and South by military commanders who actually decided what reporters and correspondents to target to suppress dissent. When you stated "a great many", what numbers are we talking about?

    "It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war."

    If there is another civil war, and if the opposing sides are unabashedly intolerant of dissent.

    Hilarious! You’ve moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn’t be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "Hilarious! You’ve moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn’t be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression."

    It's Civil War, Southron. And I was merely responding to your inquiry. There was no "moving of goalposts" here.
  57. @Coemgen
    Someone who is thoughtful enough to type "War Between the States" instead of "Civil War" should block commenter Corvinus.

    You’re right. Corvinus really is an imbecile, isn’t he?

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    • Agree: Realist
    • Replies: @neutral
    An imbecile yes, but there is no value in underestimating ones enemy. If you observe places like Huffington Post/Washington Post/Dailybeast/etc, then you would know that there millions like him out there, and they are absolutely determined to impose their view on the world, in the event of a civil war many of them will have zero problem in killing those that stand in their way.
  58. Pat Buchanan, respected elder statesman, gives President Trump his blessings and the green light to aggressively and quickly go after the Deep State obstructionist bastards within the US Government using all legal and equitable means at his disposal.

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  59. @Minnesota Mary
    I have the names of the traitors all knitted in my scarf!

    Madame De Farge

    LOL . I instantly thought of H. Clinton and her list. Evil witches both.

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  60. I suppose the present troubles in the USA make clear what every keen observer knew: the USA is not a democracy.
    In a democracy the results of elections are accepted.

    In the USA, it seems, ‘real power’, mouthpieces CNN, Washpost and NYT, does anything to remove the elected president.
    The objective seems to be to prevent dat the Cold War with Russia, that may wel escalate into the final world war, ends through talks with Russia.
    Why ?
    I suppose on the one hand the desire to subjugate the world militarily, on the other hand the fear that Europe develops more economic ties to the east.
    An old fear:
    Antony C. Sutton, ´Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution’, 1974 New Rochelle, N.Y.

    Voting systems seldom seem to result in voters having the idea that that they are represented fairly.
    Maybe our Dutch system, equal representation, is the exception.
    This now makes is nearly impossible to form a governmnt, in my view a good thing, that our nation is deeply divided is made very clear.
    This deep division i the result, in my opinion, of neglecting voters since 2005, when the referenda on the EU were ignored.

    How voting systems lead to political power not reflecting what voters want we now see in France, with 15% of the votes Macron gets some 370 of of the 600 seats in parliament.
    http://www.bfmtv.com/politique/61percent-des-francais-souhaitent-une-majorite-moins-forte-qu-attendue-pour-en–1186402.html
    61% of the French deplore this huge majority.

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  61. @Realist
    It is hard to believe how naive or stupid Trump has been. He should have fired Comey and hundreds of others in the deep state when he raised his hand from the bible. He should have confronted those in his party that are out to destroy him Why did he waste his time interviewing loser like Romney? Was he serious about their possible usefulness? Trump doesn't seem to know that he is under assault. He needs to start some serious ass kicking.
    His involvement in world affairs is stupid and dangerous. He is belligerent and menacing to Russia, Iran, China and middle-eastern countries that Israel doesn't like. This country's existence is at stake and needs all the attention of this administration. Our entanglement in world affairs is not warranted.

    "Trump has had many accomplishments since his election."

    None of significance.

    I suppose Trump knows quite well why Kennedy died: too many enemies.

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    • Replies: @El Dato
    I thought saint Kennedy died of too many bullets?

    (Still don't know whether the Vice President did the dirty deed)
  62. I believe there are 7 realms to are to our existence ,the 4 points of the compass,above and below are 6 realms
    .like flying a helicopter
    .the 7 th realm is the body itself as it navigates the 6 dimensions.the 7 th realm…call it the interior of the body is where the soul resides.it is from here that the soul can leave the confines of the body.and navigate separately of the body.that then would become a separate dimesion or realm.the 8 the realm.
    the 8 th realm has no constraints when it comes to time present past future are all accessible.we leave the physical world of time.
    what seems like hours actually happened in minutes.we go back in our past and relive events.we move forward and glimpse coming events.
    separating our soul from our physical bodies is then the answer.like looking down on ourselves sitting at a table.this sight of seeing ourselves from afar is the first step.

    so leaving the body and observing it is a conscious effort that can be obtained with practise till it becomes second nature.
    from there we leave this anchor point of observing ourselves and begin to look further afield.

    the 27 the July 2017 will see the petals of the rose begin to open.to display itself in its full beauty.let us all fix this image of a single red rose opening its petals on this day the 27 the July 2017.

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  63. @Coemgen
    Someone who is thoughtful enough to type "War Between the States" instead of "Civil War" should block commenter Corvinus.

    I’ve said it many a time and oft, “debating” a bad-faith troll is the biggest waste of time at a keyboard since Solitaire came bundled with Win 3.0. Why bother?

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  64. @BenKenobi
    I don't know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

    That has always been the case, those that are producing the war time propaganda for the enemy are very much part of the enemy.

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    those that are producing the war time propaganda for the enemy
     
    I would sooner use the term "non-uniformed psy-ops auxiliaries."
  65. @Kudzu Bob
    You're right. Corvinus really is an imbecile, isn't he?

    An imbecile yes, but there is no value in underestimating ones enemy. If you observe places like Huffington Post/Washington Post/Dailybeast/etc, then you would know that there millions like him out there, and they are absolutely determined to impose their view on the world, in the event of a civil war many of them will have zero problem in killing those that stand in their way.

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    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    Something tells me Corvinus would be no better at street-fighting than he is at trolling.
  66. @Andrei Martyanov

    Those breaches of WH security
     
    They also happened on Obama's and W's watch.

    Considering the Congressional whining and wailing about Snowden, why don’t we see a vigorous persecution of the leakers? One by one, openly. What have the haters of Snowden been saying about sedition? The same big mouths are suddenly become silent.

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  67. @TheOldOne
    Authentic Jazzman: The last thing a young dindu cares about is whether the Klan was supported by the Democrats of sixty years ago; you sound as silly as Limbaugh: "Dems are the real racists". Maybe we should talk about Robert Byrd some more; that will help our side a lot.

    This issue is not about “dindus” rather but is pertaining to the huge lie by ommission committed by the leftist edumacators, with which they, through this perfidious ommission, with which they assume that the great majority of air-brained high-school and college kids will automatically view the republicans as the creators of the KKK, and other racist actions.

    And as far as the democrats being the real racists: this is fact beyond debate, and I have experienced a mulitude of events, which I will not elaborate on, which certify this viewpoint.

    Regarding RL’s “sillyness” : I love RL and he has never had an expression of “sillyness” leave his mouth.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz artist.

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  68. @Travis
    good points. The coup attempt is certainly is the fault of the GOP politicians more than the democrats. The GOP would prefer a President Pence while the democrats would rather have Trump remain in office so they can continue their relentless attacks and get more donations to fill their coffers

    Although 30% of Americans support Trump, and see him as much better than the alternatives, the typically Trump support is over the age of 40 , passed the age at which one fights in a civil war.

    “Although 30% of Americans support DT”

    Okay so just which point are you trying to drive home here?

    Are you implying that 70% of Americans support HC.

    Be specific and don’t push false premises by employing the major weapon of the democrats/leftists namely : ommission.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.

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    • Replies: @Travis
    I did not mean to suggest that even 50% support the democrats. About 15% Of Republicans oppose Trump, and would much prefer to have Pence as President. Just as 20% of the Hillary voters would preferred Barry. Both parties are composed of competing interest groups. The nation is not really divided into two camps which would result in a civil war.

    if the coup is successful and Trump is replaced with Pence there will not be a civil war. Those who fully support Trump will not start rioting in the streets. Already Trump supporters are targets, being physically assaulted by leftists and the media blames the conservatives...and the GOP remains silent on these attacks.
  69. @Authenticjazzman
    "Although 30% of Americans support DT"

    Okay so just which point are you trying to drive home here?

    Are you implying that 70% of Americans support HC.

    Be specific and don't push false premises by employing the major weapon of the democrats/leftists namely : ommission.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jazz musician.

    I did not mean to suggest that even 50% support the democrats. About 15% Of Republicans oppose Trump, and would much prefer to have Pence as President. Just as 20% of the Hillary voters would preferred Barry. Both parties are composed of competing interest groups. The nation is not really divided into two camps which would result in a civil war.

    if the coup is successful and Trump is replaced with Pence there will not be a civil war. Those who fully support Trump will not start rioting in the streets. Already Trump supporters are targets, being physically assaulted by leftists and the media blames the conservatives…and the GOP remains silent on these attacks.

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    It would only take 3% of the people to really start a fight. Fact is most people just sit on the side lines like they did during the revolutionary war.

    The fact is the Hillary and Pence supporters are the same sort of peoples. Nearly identical politics. Rabidly Neo-con, globalists, open borders, accept sexual deviancy, etc. Economically they are part of the managerial/professional class. Life is great for them. McMansions and latest in high end luxury cars and SUV;s, etc.. They look at the white blue collars and middle-class and see people needed to be eradicated and replaced by more docile Mexicans and Muslims(bad mistake there).

    The fight will eventually be between them and the dirt people/deplorables.

    As to when, probably when the stock market/housing bubble bursts and wipes out the massive ammount of imaginary wealth many people have accumulated over the last 8 years. Maybe sooner if some anti-fa lunatic guns down a bunch of MAGA types.
  70. @Travis
    Doubt we will see a civil war, the GOP and the deep state are showing their opposition to Trump, a demonstration of the power they have to control the narrative and weaken his administration. Trump has no allies in the Senate, nor in the FBI, Media, Universities or in the military.

    none of these nonsense show trills would exist , if not for the hatred our GOP politicians have for the American people who elected Trump.

    I agree, having formerly been a registered Republican for decades. The Republican establishment could have put a stop to this immediately and are probably enjoying letting the Democrats do their dirty work for them in neutering President Trump.

    Despite the eye wash, the GOP leadership’s chief function is effectively disenfranchising the majority of the electorate until demographics bury us in our own country.

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  71. That the people of the U.S. are watching a slow motion coup of their legitimate president is not really in doubt.

    But will a Trump downfall trigger much civil unrest? Is not the country too big, the Trump electorate too not-urban? I can’t believe it. Besides, my hunch is that Trump himself would de-fuse such a situation and take a defeat rather than incite to violent protest. His reaction would count for much. Also, appreciation for rule of law (as in legitimate president) is absent from public discourse and so perhaps from collective thinking.

    By the way, I’m in the US, and my daughter just came in round eyed to say there’s a show called “Hate White People” by a black girl “willing to stand up for what she believes in”. If that doesn’t incite organized boycott, what will? The electorate need a President to fight for them, because the electorate won’t fight for the President, I think.

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    I’m in the US, and my daughter just came in round eyed to say there’s a show called “Hate White People” by a black girl “willing to stand up for what she believes in”. If that doesn’t incite organized boycott, what will?
     
    Not quite literally true, but close enough: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/netflix-debuts-trailer-for-dear-white-people-and-receives-huge-backlash/
    , @Kilo 4/11
    Your daughter is perceptive and cut right to the heart of the issue.

    Regarding whether Americans react with violence to an impeachment of President Trump, it all depends on who wins the information/propaganda war. If his enemies can succeed in creating an image of legality and due process for their action, we may remain peaceful. But I think his defenders do not need to create much doubt about the legitimacy of any charges against Trump for their to be violence in his support. Of course, the President's reaction will be crucial. I hope he does not back down, at least not for anything petty, like Nixon did.

  72. @Authenticjazzman
    "Their ( the Republicans) party is toast"

    Why is their party toast?

    For one simple reason :

    They are terrified of being labeled : RACISTS, and the democrats do indeed pull the racist card for each and any issue.

    I have been saying for months and years there is only one solution to this dilema and that being the republicans MUST start labeling democrats : RACIST 24/7, and thereby turn the narrative upside down. There is and will not be any other effective action.

    The Republicans could cause a political earthquake in their favor, by simply reminding or informing the general public , on a daily basis, of the history of the KKK, as no young american kid, black brown or white has a clue as to the nature or genesis of this organisation, and by the school system simply never mentioning the roots of it, the KKK, this has led to the automatic assumption that it was a republican creation.

    Presidential tweets starting off with the phrase : " Democrats, party of the KKK", would be an effective beginning.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    The Klan was the good guys.

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    Bless you, Father, but never try to reason with a blowhard that constantly toots its own horn. It's nearly a mortal sin.

    Now, three Our Fathers a coupla Hail Marys, a promise to never do that again, and yer good to go...!

    Toot toot!

    PS: I want to see you after Mass next Sunday.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    This is not the issue, the actual issue being comprised of two elements, constructed and propagated by the leftist assholes in education, the legal field, media and politics, etc.

    The two constructed elements being :

    (1) They are bad guys.

    (2) They are republicans.

    And then this constellation is employed as yet another weapon in the arsenal held by the leftist
    crazies who are setting the parameters for all of US society.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
  73. @neutral
    That has always been the case, those that are producing the war time propaganda for the enemy are very much part of the enemy.

    those that are producing the war time propaganda for the enemy

    I would sooner use the term “non-uniformed psy-ops auxiliaries.”

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  74. We are approaching something of a civil war where the capital city seeks the overthrow of the sovereign and its own restoration.

    The nominal capital city is little more than a symbol and a distraction. The real capital city is in NYC and that’d be Wall Street, and that deal was done quite a while back.

    There will be no civil war unless Wall Street can profit.

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  75. @Darin

    Opposing this is (or was) maybe half the population on a very good day
     
    Half of the population do not register to vote, do not vote, do not care about the whole circus. This is not how country at the brink of civil war looks like.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwEGSe_upuQ

    This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like.

    Hilarious! Thanks Darin.

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  76. @Agent76
    June 16, 2016 Supreme Court Ruling: Police Have No Duty to Protect the General Public

    However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety.

    http://tribunist.com/news/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

    Aug 7, 2013 Did You Know #1 - The Myth of Police Protection

    Did you know that the police have *NO DUTY* to protect you? In this episode of DYK, we examine the myth of police protection by first looking at the popular view of police, then contrasting it with the cases of Jessica Gonzales and Joe Lozita.

    https://youtu.be/2BN6Q5cygCs

    If we extrapolate the concept from one government agency to the whole thing we’ll find the true purpose of government, particularly a large, centralized, aggressive, debt-ridden, money printing one infested with obnoxious, sinecure-seeking, parasites from top to bottom.

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=228&chapter=36940&layout=html&Itemid=27#a_1585595

    And for those advocating a violent revolution, pay attention…

    [The masses], as no one may deny, have often risen against governments extorting too high a price for their services, or threatening to overwhelm them with intolerable burdens, but the success of such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters, and the new governing class has usually been larger and of inferior quality. The result of these revolutions has been what it always must be—augmented burdens and a recrudescence of the State of War.23
    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion – Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).

    Historically violent revolutions burn themselves out rather rapidly and are soon co-opted by the money bag crowd. The lesson, therefore is that what’s required is a revolution of the spirit, but I don’t see that happening any time soon.

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    Thanks Jacques Sheete, I also share this history few know about from government schooling and I have been unplugged from the matrix for well over twenty years.

    February 23, 2015 America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776 The U.S. Has Only Been At Peace For 21 Years Total Since Its Birth

    Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41086.htm
  77. @Anonymous
    Nah, doesn't matter. Political party doesn't matter. The same fate. The sociological and political fate of our country is almost as determined as our genes. We will be a Brazil with nukes soon enough. The ruling class makes a show of being diverse (Democrats AND Republicans) but I guess they believe they and their children will always be separated from the shanty towns. They have one overarching feeling about toward Deplorable America: sucks to be them.

    I worked for a government agency. I was once offered a job by a Congressman (R). I never pursued it. A year later I was talking with a guy who worked for a Congresswoman (D) and mentioned the job offer I never pursued. He said, "Are you crazy? You'd be set for life." I then mentioned how I'd worried about giving up my federal employment and possibly be out a job if this Congressman lost the next election. He said, "It doesn't matter. You'd be offered a $200k position starting out working for a government contractor. Political party doesn't matter. They look out for each other." I sometimes regret not taking the job. I could be living a much better life. Che sara, sara.

    The people of the Swamp are hostage to the Devil.

    Political party doesn’t matter.

    So true, and many politicians have said that. Too bad it’s still a secret!

    In practically no other contests has the electorate had for all practical purposes a choice except between two candidates, identical as far as their political role would be as representatives of the significant classes in the State.
    -Randolph Bourne, The State, From Untimely Papers (1919).
    Randolph Bourne left an unfinished, unpaginated draft of The State when he died during the flu pandemic of 1918.

    “Well, these four hundred men, whether they were Democrats or Republicans, were willing to do anything to help each other. They were all in the same boat, regardless of party, and so they made rules and did things to help each other get elected…”

    -Jeanette Rankin, interview

    http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt758005dx&brand=calisphere&doc.view=entire_text

    Both of the dominant political parties for a long time have been and still are directed by “big business.” That is why no one can point to any existing material issue between the two, except that each wants the official “jobs.” “Jobs” are their only material existing issue, and they play the political game for jobs.

    For “special privilege” to own a half-dozen Senators of ability who at the same time are sharp enough to make the voters believe that they are independent, is worth billions of dollars annually to special privilege and is a corresponding loss to the people.

    - Charles August Lindbergh

    Why Is Your Country At War And What Happens To You After The War: And Related Subjects (1917)

    Lindbergh was elected to the U.S. House of Representativesin 1906, as a Republican, serving in the 60th, 61st, 62nd, 63rd, and 64th congresses. He was a member of the House Banking and currency committee when the Federal Reserve Act was passed which he opposed.

    Roosevelt then said : “Pettigrew, you know the two old parties are just alike. They are both controlled by the same influences, and I am going to organize a new party a new political party in this country based upon progressive principles.

    R. F. PETTIGREW, TRIUMPHANT PLUTOCRACY , The Story or American Public Life from 1870 to 1920, p237
    Formerly United States Senator from South Dakota

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  78. @Corvinus
    "You do know that both the Confederacy and the Federal government rounded up a great many newspaper editors during the War Between the States, don’t you?"

    That would be The Civil War. And journalists were "rounded up" when they were captured on enemy territory, or were arrested on their home ground in the North and South by military commanders who actually decided what reporters and correspondents to target to suppress dissent. When you stated "a great many", what numbers are we talking about?

    "It is unimaginable that media figures, the very softest of soft targets, would not be targeted by all sides in the event of another American civil war."

    If there is another civil war, and if the opposing sides are unabashedly intolerant of dissent.

    The Civil War

    “The?”

    FYI, the revolution of ’76 was a “civil” war as well. The original poster is correct.

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  79. @Father O'Hara
    The Klan was the good guys.

    Bless you, Father, but never try to reason with a blowhard that constantly toots its own horn. It’s nearly a mortal sin.

    Now, three Our Fathers a coupla Hail Marys, a promise to never do that again, and yer good to go…!

    Toot toot!

    PS: I want to see you after Mass next Sunday.

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    If you want to hang with me after church I hope you're a drinking man.
    Oh and you're not one of those bluenoses that don't like strippers,are ye son?
  80. @Veritatis
    That the people of the U.S. are watching a slow motion coup of their legitimate president is not really in doubt.

    But will a Trump downfall trigger much civil unrest? Is not the country too big, the Trump electorate too not-urban? I can't believe it. Besides, my hunch is that Trump himself would de-fuse such a situation and take a defeat rather than incite to violent protest. His reaction would count for much. Also, appreciation for rule of law (as in legitimate president) is absent from public discourse and so perhaps from collective thinking.

    By the way, I'm in the US, and my daughter just came in round eyed to say there's a show called "Hate White People" by a black girl "willing to stand up for what she believes in". If that doesn't incite organized boycott, what will? The electorate need a President to fight for them, because the electorate won't fight for the President, I think.

    I’m in the US, and my daughter just came in round eyed to say there’s a show called “Hate White People” by a black girl “willing to stand up for what she believes in”. If that doesn’t incite organized boycott, what will?

    Not quite literally true, but close enough: http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/02/09/netflix-debuts-trailer-for-dear-white-people-and-receives-huge-backlash/

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  81. @Corvinus
    "This is not how country on the brink of revolution and civil war looks like."

    How anti-white of you to only show one side of the high-caloric intake valve of the our population.
    You conveniently left out the gluttonous Jews, the portly mestizos, and of course those fatty blacks. Get with the program here.

    http://stateofobesity.org/disparities/

    Obesity Rates –
    All Adults – 34.9%
    Black – 47.8%
    Latino – 42.5%
    White – 32.6%

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    Obesity Rates –
    All Adults – 34.9%
    Black – 47.8%
    Latino – 42.5%
    White – 32.6%
     
    Interesting that you omitted the biggest disparity of all in obesity rates -- that between East-Asian-Americans and everyone else. In virtually every meaningful stat battle -- e.g., education and income level, crime rate, test scores, longevity -- they dominate. If it weren't for the fact that the men have such small penises and struggle to achieve even the tiniest semblance of cool, they would totally rule.
  82. Trump is making enemies everywhere. Everything started going downhill the day he brought in his NY liberal jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner to run the show. Thanks to Jared’s brilliant “advice”, Trump stuffed his cabinet with billionaire NY liberal Jews from Wall Street, tried to pander to the left by completely flip flopping on nearly every single one of his campaign promises especially on immigration and foreign policy, the two top issues that got him elected, while wasting his political capital on approving a horribly botched healthcare “fix” that actually made things worse. Ivanka’s “Women Entrepreneur Fund” is now the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, accepting its first major bribe from a foreign government Saudi Arabia for $40m. This is a new scandal waiting to break out, the new Clinton Foundation, except she won’t have the media to protect her. Now few except his die hard supporters really care what happens to him anymore.

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    Hi Disenfrenchised, the comment # 115 was my response and emphasis to your comment.....
  83. Another excellent summation by Pat Buchanan. Can’t help but wish he was president or at least had been given a role in this administration.

    I thought fishing expeditions were illegal in this country.

    http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Fishing+Expedition

    Trump’s disapproval rating is said to be 60%. That result is primarily from the nonstop enemedia’s propaganda, but also the loss of hope of his supporters. Sedition and treason, not resistance, seem accurate descriptors for the unprecedented refusal to accept the election’s outcome.

    Civil war? That would almost be an upside. As someone upthread said, we’d have to have a side. Both parties, the media, the courts and the security state, all powers alleged to represent and defend the country, seem to prefer to destroy it instead. Without leadership, the people are too weak to defend their interests; most of them seem to be unaware that they should even have one, let alone fight for it.

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  84. @mcohen
    I believe there are 7 realms to are to our existence ,the 4 points of the compass,above and below are 6 realms
    .like flying a helicopter
    .the 7 th realm is the body itself as it navigates the 6 dimensions.the 7 th realm...call it the interior of the body is where the soul resides.it is from here that the soul can leave the confines of the body.and navigate separately of the body.that then would become a separate dimesion or realm.the 8 the realm.
    the 8 th realm has no constraints when it comes to time present past future are all accessible.we leave the physical world of time.
    what seems like hours actually happened in minutes.we go back in our past and relive events.we move forward and glimpse coming events.
    separating our soul from our physical bodies is then the answer.like looking down on ourselves sitting at a table.this sight of seeing ourselves from afar is the first step.

    so leaving the body and observing it is a conscious effort that can be obtained with practise till it becomes second nature.
    from there we leave this anchor point of observing ourselves and begin to look further afield.

    the 27 the July 2017 will see the petals of the rose begin to open.to display itself in its full beauty.let us all fix this image of a single red rose opening its petals on this day the 27 the July 2017.

    Hello, have you heard of timecube

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    Daniel my brother........hello
    never heard of timecube.my examination is not related to time.it is derived from kabbalah and judaism
    Sorry to disappoint.
    Roses are red
    violets are blue
    In time we will say
    If only we knew
  85. @jacques sheete
    If we extrapolate the concept from one government agency to the whole thing we'll find the true purpose of government, particularly a large, centralized, aggressive, debt-ridden, money printing one infested with obnoxious, sinecure-seeking, parasites from top to bottom.

    “…and when it was finally discovered that more profit was to be gained by enslaving the weak and systematically exploiting their productive capacities, instead of spoiling and destroying, this discovery opened a new and fruitful era of progress, for it involved the formation of political States.”

    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion - Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
    oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=228&chapter=36940&layout=html&Itemid=27#a_1585595

     

    And for those advocating a violent revolution, pay attention...

    [The masses], as no one may deny, have often risen against governments extorting too high a price for their services, or threatening to overwhelm them with intolerable burdens, but the success of such movements seldom results in more than a change of masters, and the new governing class has usually been larger and of inferior quality. The result of these revolutions has been what it always must be—augmented burdens and a recrudescence of the State of War.23
    Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Part II: Chapter XV Summary and Conclusion - Gustave de Molinari, The Society of Tomorrow [1899]
    Edition used: The Society of Tomorrow: A Forecast of its Political and Economic Organization, ed. Hodgson Pratt and Frederic Passy, trans. P.H. Lee Warner (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1904).
     
    Historically violent revolutions burn themselves out rather rapidly and are soon co-opted by the money bag crowd. The lesson, therefore is that what's required is a revolution of the spirit, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

    Thanks Jacques Sheete, I also share this history few know about from government schooling and I have been unplugged from the matrix for well over twenty years.

    February 23, 2015 America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776 The U.S. Has Only Been At Peace For 21 Years Total Since Its Birth

    Below, I have reproduced a year-by-year timeline of America’s wars, which reveals something quite interesting: since the United States was founded in 1776, she has been at war during 214 out of her 235 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41086.htm

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  86. France is now in its Fifth Republic. Where are we?

    1. Confederal Republic (1781-1789)
    2. Federal Republic (1789-1861)
    3. National Republic (1861-1947)
    4. National Security State (1947-2001)
    5. National Surveillance State (2001-????)
    6. Post-Constitutional State (????-????)

    Each phase of our national journey has been marked by an expansion of centralized power. The time must soon come when the crumbled facade of legality, already becoming a sad joke, will collapse entirely under the stresses placed upon it. It will be like a cell dividing: a natural process beyond anyone’s control.

    The Hunger Games was prescient: The decadent elite of the Capitol will no longer be able to pretend that they even care about the welfare of their subjects in the Districts. The spark will be when they de facto abolish the Second Amendment and begin firearm confiscation (of course, under the guise of “security”). That’s when the rubber will meet the road.

    From the point of view of Heritage America, the sooner this happens, the better.

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    Each phase of our national journey has been marked by an expansion of centralized power.
     
    We may never see a large scale totalitarian government. Government itself is made up of imperfect fallible people. It is not capable of being omnipotent, nor infinite. It is flawed and cannot refute the laws of the universe.

    Our current government in most of its forms (where the self serving politicians and deep state bureaucrats vastly outnumber the dedicated public servants among them) is descending into incompetency. Economically it has created the national equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, with unserviceable debt being its main feature. Our government subsists on the economy, not the other way around. And our economy is unsustainable, and the government will not be able to subsist well without it.

    Eventually it will resemble a failed state on many levels, which may cause the devolution of this nation. And since we are now globalized, most foreign nations will suffer from their own economic chaos once our economy degrades; so their will not be any foreign economic savior coming to our rescue (ready to buy more worthless T Bills).

    This potential economic breakup will probably render our government mostly impotent.
    Thus, our government may not have the future ability/capacity to be as totalitarian as they wish to be, once things fall apart. Our larger economy will take longer to fall than other smaller economies (most recent being Venezuela), but will probably fall a lot harder when it does.

    In failed state like conditions, depending where you are, you will probably see the growth of local economies, or warlords, or chaos (and if warlords are the result, you are just trading one form of tyranny for another). But it definitely will not be government business as usual (especially during economic decline when government will cannibalize itself of other services to keep the welfare state going... in other words the welfare state will be the last to go, since government views its primary role as providing entitlements to afro americans).

  87. @wj
    http://stateofobesity.org/disparities/

    Obesity Rates -
    All Adults - 34.9%
    Black - 47.8%
    Latino - 42.5%
    White - 32.6%

    Obesity Rates –
    All Adults – 34.9%
    Black – 47.8%
    Latino – 42.5%
    White – 32.6%

    Interesting that you omitted the biggest disparity of all in obesity rates — that between East-Asian-Americans and everyone else. In virtually every meaningful stat battle — e.g., education and income level, crime rate, test scores, longevity — they dominate. If it weren’t for the fact that the men have such small penises and struggle to achieve even the tiniest semblance of cool, they would totally rule.

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    • Replies: @themann
    Fitness is a prerequisite for combat and even our active duty military personnel are in some degree to fat to fight. This might be mitigated by the fact that the next war will be dominated by mechanical\cybernetic\EMP type weapons. As a small example, knocking out the AC for an entire city during the summer months would likely severely reduce anyone's ardor for fighting. But we will never fight another Civil War with mass infantry formations.


    Maybe a more realistic goal would be to appeal to American's inner sloth, perhaps a national tax strike with the idea of ending the income tax forever. Only the top 50% or so of earners pay much income tax, if they all took a couple of months off, no income, no tax, the Federal Government would be in extremis in short order. A lot less bloody too.

  88. We have been in a cultural civil war since the late 1960s. And it seems that we may be heading to a shooting civil war, but I do not believe it will be caused by the culture war. That is because we seem to pander more and more to the outrageous demands of the SJW and afro american radicals. Analogous to terrorism, when you always give in to unreasonable demands, it just keeps on getting worse. We have been giving in for so long that it has become the norm. I do not see any reversal in political fortitude to stop this, especially when the leftist MSM provides cover with political propaganda.

    Does that mean there will never be a shooting civil war? Well, this nation will eventually erupt into violence, and possible devolution, but probably not because of the culture war (since much of America is already addicted to porn). Instead it will be about racial balkanization with afro americans, and economic decline. But it is the economics that will trigger it, mainly because of unsustainable debt levels to keep the welfare/warfare state going (however, welfare is the biggest culprit since States/Counties/Municipalities do not have defense spending … thus, in totality, it’s almost all going to welfare spending); and the low employment participation rate where the middle/working class is being made into underemployed consumers, that purchase globalized Walmart junk, while living on unsustainable credit.

    This underemployment sets the stage with workers becoming resentful of being disposed of by the corporate elites, while watching afro americans receive all the benefits through entitlements, welfare, and affirmative action (the claim is it benefits all minorities, but most other minorities want to earn their way by working… Its main recipient is afro americans who perpetually desire welfare benefits … they use the word “minority” to obfuscate, tricking White resentment into blaming a bigger pool of people, and the try to convince these other minorities that whites are against them… it is the perfect leftist tactic of divide & conquer in order to achieve their political ambitions… shame on us for believing it).

    Leftist is what ruined the afro american, and destroyed their ability to be productive human beings. The leftist SJW is cowardly, and hope to use afro americans as their front line against the rest of America. Unfortunately most African Americans have become true believers in this leftist propaganda. Afro americans have been so inculcated with the leftist propaganda of blame whitey for everything, and free lunch benefits, that once those benefits can no longer be provided, they will immediately default to a desire for a race war (to the delight of leftist).

    Add to this is that our longterm economic decline will make cities like Detroit, and Camden become more commonplace, essentially resembling regional failed states. There will eventually be deep cuts in Police/Fire/Sanitation/EMS/Hospitals/road repair/Military Bases/National Guard. The reduction of these institutions would further deescalate a society that is suffering from large scale social unrest.

    Economic disruptions will also cause a scarcity of resources (mainly food, and fuel), which added to lack of institutions, and growing animosity of the underemployed working man, and afro americans racial balkanization, will create all the conditions necessary for a civil war. And we can thank the New Left (with some fault going to the corporatist for the underemployment problem) for creating the conditions for this, because they wanted to create utopia from their own animus and envy, they will end up destroying all of us instead.

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    Agreed, and the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.

    Of course the edumacated dimwits, professors, teachers, legal and medical types, they assume that they will be the honchos in the new utopia, and that they will be immune to purge, and "cleansing", and they couldn't be more off base with their naive wishful thinking.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1793, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jaz musician.
  89. @Hairway To Steven

    Obesity Rates –
    All Adults – 34.9%
    Black – 47.8%
    Latino – 42.5%
    White – 32.6%
     
    Interesting that you omitted the biggest disparity of all in obesity rates -- that between East-Asian-Americans and everyone else. In virtually every meaningful stat battle -- e.g., education and income level, crime rate, test scores, longevity -- they dominate. If it weren't for the fact that the men have such small penises and struggle to achieve even the tiniest semblance of cool, they would totally rule.

    Fitness is a prerequisite for combat and even our active duty military personnel are in some degree to fat to fight. This might be mitigated by the fact that the next war will be dominated by mechanical\cybernetic\EMP type weapons. As a small example, knocking out the AC for an entire city during the summer months would likely severely reduce anyone’s ardor for fighting. But we will never fight another Civil War with mass infantry formations.

    Maybe a more realistic goal would be to appeal to American’s inner sloth, perhaps a national tax strike with the idea of ending the income tax forever. Only the top 50% or so of earners pay much income tax, if they all took a couple of months off, no income, no tax, the Federal Government would be in extremis in short order. A lot less bloody too.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    The general strike, which might also appeal to sloth, is an underrated instrument of economic coercion.
  90. @Father O'Hara
    The Klan was the good guys.

    This is not the issue, the actual issue being comprised of two elements, constructed and propagated by the leftist assholes in education, the legal field, media and politics, etc.

    The two constructed elements being :

    (1) They are bad guys.

    (2) They are republicans.

    And then this constellation is employed as yet another weapon in the arsenal held by the leftist
    crazies who are setting the parameters for all of US society.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  91. @joef
    We have been in a cultural civil war since the late 1960s. And it seems that we may be heading to a shooting civil war, but I do not believe it will be caused by the culture war. That is because we seem to pander more and more to the outrageous demands of the SJW and afro american radicals. Analogous to terrorism, when you always give in to unreasonable demands, it just keeps on getting worse. We have been giving in for so long that it has become the norm. I do not see any reversal in political fortitude to stop this, especially when the leftist MSM provides cover with political propaganda.

    Does that mean there will never be a shooting civil war? Well, this nation will eventually erupt into violence, and possible devolution, but probably not because of the culture war (since much of America is already addicted to porn). Instead it will be about racial balkanization with afro americans, and economic decline. But it is the economics that will trigger it, mainly because of unsustainable debt levels to keep the welfare/warfare state going (however, welfare is the biggest culprit since States/Counties/Municipalities do not have defense spending ... thus, in totality, it's almost all going to welfare spending); and the low employment participation rate where the middle/working class is being made into underemployed consumers, that purchase globalized Walmart junk, while living on unsustainable credit.

    This underemployment sets the stage with workers becoming resentful of being disposed of by the corporate elites, while watching afro americans receive all the benefits through entitlements, welfare, and affirmative action (the claim is it benefits all minorities, but most other minorities want to earn their way by working... Its main recipient is afro americans who perpetually desire welfare benefits ... they use the word "minority" to obfuscate, tricking White resentment into blaming a bigger pool of people, and the try to convince these other minorities that whites are against them... it is the perfect leftist tactic of divide & conquer in order to achieve their political ambitions... shame on us for believing it).

    Leftist is what ruined the afro american, and destroyed their ability to be productive human beings. The leftist SJW is cowardly, and hope to use afro americans as their front line against the rest of America. Unfortunately most African Americans have become true believers in this leftist propaganda. Afro americans have been so inculcated with the leftist propaganda of blame whitey for everything, and free lunch benefits, that once those benefits can no longer be provided, they will immediately default to a desire for a race war (to the delight of leftist).

    Add to this is that our longterm economic decline will make cities like Detroit, and Camden become more commonplace, essentially resembling regional failed states. There will eventually be deep cuts in Police/Fire/Sanitation/EMS/Hospitals/road repair/Military Bases/National Guard. The reduction of these institutions would further deescalate a society that is suffering from large scale social unrest.

    Economic disruptions will also cause a scarcity of resources (mainly food, and fuel), which added to lack of institutions, and growing animosity of the underemployed working man, and afro americans racial balkanization, will create all the conditions necessary for a civil war. And we can thank the New Left (with some fault going to the corporatist for the underemployment problem) for creating the conditions for this, because they wanted to create utopia from their own animus and envy, they will end up destroying all of us instead.

    Agreed, and the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.

    Of course the edumacated dimwits, professors, teachers, legal and medical types, they assume that they will be the honchos in the new utopia, and that they will be immune to purge, and “cleansing”, and they couldn’t be more off base with their naive wishful thinking.

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    the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.
     
    That is because most libs and leftist are partially detached from the real world, where they try to force reality to conform to their own personal opinions. Thus, their self delusion (whether for good intentions like libs, or bad intentions like leftist) does not allow them to see the destruction they are causing.

    Many lib/leftist avoid uncomfortable empirical experiences. Instead they seek contrived academic studies where they can detach themselves from the physical consequences of their theories. They mostly exist in a subjective echo chamber that repeats, unchallenged, their own politically correct paradigms. It is almost impossible to reason with a person who is in delusional denial of objective reality. To avoid harsh reality, they will ignore it by stating that all truth is relative (which also negates the idea for the scientific search for truth).

    To deny reality is a form of low grade psychosis, which limits their ability in making rational decisions. Prior to modern times they probably died off from their mental denial of harsh reality; but modern times somewhat protects them from their bad decision making process (but burdens the rest of us). However, as they exceed their carrying capacity over time, the cumulative effect of all these bad lib/leftist ideas results in a slow continuous degrading of our society and the economy.

    Its like they placed a bunch of oily rags near the fireplace, and then deny that the house caught fire, and blame the rest of us for evacuating the burning building.
    , @Autochthon
    The horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it: do you actually type it into each comment, or do use a script, or do you simply keep the text handy on a clipboard for rapid insertion anytime uou bloviate online?

    Despite my contempt, mh curiousity is nonetheless genuine.
  92. @MEexpert

    How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency,
     
    I don't know, because I never said it. LOL. I voted for Trump. So much for your insight into my motives.

    One example – by pulling out of the Paris “Accord” he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.
     
    All this is in the future and unknown. $100 trillions sounds great but who came up with this outrageous number. I am talking about now. If he ends the war, the payoff will be immediate with savings in material cost and lives.

    I want him to stop tweeting and pay attention to the consequences of his actions. I don't think he had any idea that the country he was bragging about ostracizing is the host to the largest US military base in the Middle East. Rex Tillerson had to remind him of that.

    Qatar may well be not a problem:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/06/14/us-signs-12-billion-deal-to-sell-f-15s-to-qatar/

    It sounds like a standard case of “nice country you have here, shame if there was a blocade … ”

    We will see whether the next news cycle will “delist” Qatar again.

    I hear that earlier Mattis tried to blame the Qatar dustup on “fake news” planted by hackers, which morphed into “russian hackers”.

    So in the end it will be Putin’s evil hand and 12 billion USD going to the MIC for oldish planes (apparently 36 of them)

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    I hear that earlier Mattis tried to blame the Qatar dustup on “fake news” planted by hackers, which morphed into “russian hackers”.
     
    The Russian hysteria is getting so bad that now everything is blamed on the Russians or Russian hackers. I am just waiting to see how long it will take the Brits to blame the London fire on the Russians or the US media to do the same for the congressmen's shooting.
  93. @Corvinus
    "However, did you know that the government, and specifically law enforcement, does not have any duty to protect the general public? Based on the headline and this information, you might assume this is a new, landmark decision. However, it has long been the court’s stance that, essentially, the American people are responsible for taking case of their own personal safety."

    Fake News Story.

    First, what specific court case from 2016 are you referring to? You nor the source lists it. Peculiar, to say the least.

    Second, the source you cited contains essential missing details regarding the Castle Rock v. Gonzales case from 2005. The decision rendered was that a police department could not be sued for failing to enforce a restraining order. The Late Justice Antonin Scalia, an ardent conservative, wrote the majority opinion, stating that enforcement of the restraining order was not mandatory under Colorado law since enforcement of a restraining order entails a process, that only until there was a vocalized, specific threat made would the police be compelled undergo this process. The defendant had been allowed weekly visits with his three daughters, but picked them up in the front yard without contacting his wife. The restraining order language specified only non-contact with his former wife, NOT his three children. Moreover, according to a 911 tape, when she asked about the order, she said her ex-husband was allowed to visit the girls. Thus, there had been no reasonable suspicion for the police to arrest her husband for violating the restraining order.

    You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?

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    "You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?"

    I already won the initial dance off. You tried to pull a fast one on the judges and got disqualified. You are a rank amateur.
  94. @jilles dykstra
    I suppose Trump knows quite well why Kennedy died: too many enemies.

    I thought saint Kennedy died of too many bullets?

    (Still don’t know whether the Vice President did the dirty deed)

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  95. @BenKenobi
    I don't know when it will start, but I do know that MSM will be legitimate military targets.

    Don’t you think the majority of folks (of whatever political persuasion) are too glued to their gizmos while munching on genetically modified crap to even give a crap about a civil war. When you see mostly middle and lower middle class white people (for the most part) mobilizing, then I will know something is really up. Right now you have very small numbers of very politically aware people on the right (who mostly blog) getting out into the streets. There are enough hard core lefties who want a revolution too. These aren’t the mindless antifa Sorosians who are getting paid – I’m talking about the ones behind the scenes – mostly in academia. Only when you start to notice noticeable numbers of white folks on the move, then you’ll know something is up – because protesting doesn’t come natural to white folks.

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  96. You guys better hope not

    You would lose BADLY

    All the world would ally with people like me and destroy you and you white assholes in short order

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    And why would the world ally with you, for it has enough of its only troubles without adding one more like you....
  97. @Daniel Chieh
    Hello, have you heard of timecube

    Daniel my brother……..hello
    never heard of timecube.my examination is not related to time.it is derived from kabbalah and judaism
    Sorry to disappoint.
    Roses are red
    violets are blue
    In time we will say
    If only we knew

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  98. @El Dato
    Qatar may well be not a problem:

    http://news.antiwar.com/2017/06/14/us-signs-12-billion-deal-to-sell-f-15s-to-qatar/

    It sounds like a standard case of "nice country you have here, shame if there was a blocade ... "

    We will see whether the next news cycle will "delist" Qatar again.

    I hear that earlier Mattis tried to blame the Qatar dustup on "fake news" planted by hackers, which morphed into "russian hackers".

    So in the end it will be Putin's evil hand and 12 billion USD going to the MIC for oldish planes (apparently 36 of them)

    I hear that earlier Mattis tried to blame the Qatar dustup on “fake news” planted by hackers, which morphed into “russian hackers”.

    The Russian hysteria is getting so bad that now everything is blamed on the Russians or Russian hackers. I am just waiting to see how long it will take the Brits to blame the London fire on the Russians or the US media to do the same for the congressmen’s shooting.

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  99. @Tiny Duck
    You guys better hope not

    You would lose BADLY

    All the world would ally with people like me and destroy you and you white assholes in short order

    And why would the world ally with you, for it has enough of its only troubles without adding one more like you….

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  100. @Travis
    I did not mean to suggest that even 50% support the democrats. About 15% Of Republicans oppose Trump, and would much prefer to have Pence as President. Just as 20% of the Hillary voters would preferred Barry. Both parties are composed of competing interest groups. The nation is not really divided into two camps which would result in a civil war.

    if the coup is successful and Trump is replaced with Pence there will not be a civil war. Those who fully support Trump will not start rioting in the streets. Already Trump supporters are targets, being physically assaulted by leftists and the media blames the conservatives...and the GOP remains silent on these attacks.

    It would only take 3% of the people to really start a fight. Fact is most people just sit on the side lines like they did during the revolutionary war.

    The fact is the Hillary and Pence supporters are the same sort of peoples. Nearly identical politics. Rabidly Neo-con, globalists, open borders, accept sexual deviancy, etc. Economically they are part of the managerial/professional class. Life is great for them. McMansions and latest in high end luxury cars and SUV;s, etc.. They look at the white blue collars and middle-class and see people needed to be eradicated and replaced by more docile Mexicans and Muslims(bad mistake there).

    The fight will eventually be between them and the dirt people/deplorables.

    As to when, probably when the stock market/housing bubble bursts and wipes out the massive ammount of imaginary wealth many people have accumulated over the last 8 years. Maybe sooner if some anti-fa lunatic guns down a bunch of MAGA types.

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  101. @neutral
    An imbecile yes, but there is no value in underestimating ones enemy. If you observe places like Huffington Post/Washington Post/Dailybeast/etc, then you would know that there millions like him out there, and they are absolutely determined to impose their view on the world, in the event of a civil war many of them will have zero problem in killing those that stand in their way.

    Something tells me Corvinus would be no better at street-fighting than he is at trolling.

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  102. @Veritatis
    That the people of the U.S. are watching a slow motion coup of their legitimate president is not really in doubt.

    But will a Trump downfall trigger much civil unrest? Is not the country too big, the Trump electorate too not-urban? I can't believe it. Besides, my hunch is that Trump himself would de-fuse such a situation and take a defeat rather than incite to violent protest. His reaction would count for much. Also, appreciation for rule of law (as in legitimate president) is absent from public discourse and so perhaps from collective thinking.

    By the way, I'm in the US, and my daughter just came in round eyed to say there's a show called "Hate White People" by a black girl "willing to stand up for what she believes in". If that doesn't incite organized boycott, what will? The electorate need a President to fight for them, because the electorate won't fight for the President, I think.

    Your daughter is perceptive and cut right to the heart of the issue.

    Regarding whether Americans react with violence to an impeachment of President Trump, it all depends on who wins the information/propaganda war. If his enemies can succeed in creating an image of legality and due process for their action, we may remain peaceful. But I think his defenders do not need to create much doubt about the legitimacy of any charges against Trump for their to be violence in his support. Of course, the President’s reaction will be crucial. I hope he does not back down, at least not for anything petty, like Nixon did.

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    Regarding whether Americans react with violence to an impeachment of President Trump, it all depends on who wins the information/propaganda war.
     
    Agreed.

    If his enemies can succeed in creating an image of legality and due process for their action, we may remain peaceful.
     
    With how much control they have over the Mass Media Megaphone (and the judiciary), how is their success at this not pretty much guaranteed?
  103. @Authenticjazzman
    Agreed, and the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.

    Of course the edumacated dimwits, professors, teachers, legal and medical types, they assume that they will be the honchos in the new utopia, and that they will be immune to purge, and "cleansing", and they couldn't be more off base with their naive wishful thinking.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1793, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jaz musician.

    the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.

    That is because most libs and leftist are partially detached from the real world, where they try to force reality to conform to their own personal opinions. Thus, their self delusion (whether for good intentions like libs, or bad intentions like leftist) does not allow them to see the destruction they are causing.

    Many lib/leftist avoid uncomfortable empirical experiences. Instead they seek contrived academic studies where they can detach themselves from the physical consequences of their theories. They mostly exist in a subjective echo chamber that repeats, unchallenged, their own politically correct paradigms. It is almost impossible to reason with a person who is in delusional denial of objective reality. To avoid harsh reality, they will ignore it by stating that all truth is relative (which also negates the idea for the scientific search for truth).

    To deny reality is a form of low grade psychosis, which limits their ability in making rational decisions. Prior to modern times they probably died off from their mental denial of harsh reality; but modern times somewhat protects them from their bad decision making process (but burdens the rest of us). However, as they exceed their carrying capacity over time, the cumulative effect of all these bad lib/leftist ideas results in a slow continuous degrading of our society and the economy.

    Its like they placed a bunch of oily rags near the fireplace, and then deny that the house caught fire, and blame the rest of us for evacuating the burning building.

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  104. Hilhag has not given or been asked her thoughts about the shooting. Odd, since she is the leader of the “resistance.”

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  105. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    France is now in its Fifth Republic. Where are we?

    1. Confederal Republic (1781-1789)
    2. Federal Republic (1789-1861)
    3. National Republic (1861-1947)
    4. National Security State (1947-2001)
    5. National Surveillance State (2001-????)
    6. Post-Constitutional State (????-????)

    Each phase of our national journey has been marked by an expansion of centralized power. The time must soon come when the crumbled facade of legality, already becoming a sad joke, will collapse entirely under the stresses placed upon it. It will be like a cell dividing: a natural process beyond anyone's control.

    The Hunger Games was prescient: The decadent elite of the Capitol will no longer be able to pretend that they even care about the welfare of their subjects in the Districts. The spark will be when they de facto abolish the Second Amendment and begin firearm confiscation (of course, under the guise of "security"). That's when the rubber will meet the road.

    From the point of view of Heritage America, the sooner this happens, the better.

    Each phase of our national journey has been marked by an expansion of centralized power.

    We may never see a large scale totalitarian government. Government itself is made up of imperfect fallible people. It is not capable of being omnipotent, nor infinite. It is flawed and cannot refute the laws of the universe.

    Our current government in most of its forms (where the self serving politicians and deep state bureaucrats vastly outnumber the dedicated public servants among them) is descending into incompetency. Economically it has created the national equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, with unserviceable debt being its main feature. Our government subsists on the economy, not the other way around. And our economy is unsustainable, and the government will not be able to subsist well without it.

    Eventually it will resemble a failed state on many levels, which may cause the devolution of this nation. And since we are now globalized, most foreign nations will suffer from their own economic chaos once our economy degrades; so their will not be any foreign economic savior coming to our rescue (ready to buy more worthless T Bills).

    This potential economic breakup will probably render our government mostly impotent.
    Thus, our government may not have the future ability/capacity to be as totalitarian as they wish to be, once things fall apart. Our larger economy will take longer to fall than other smaller economies (most recent being Venezuela), but will probably fall a lot harder when it does.

    In failed state like conditions, depending where you are, you will probably see the growth of local economies, or warlords, or chaos (and if warlords are the result, you are just trading one form of tyranny for another). But it definitely will not be government business as usual (especially during economic decline when government will cannibalize itself of other services to keep the welfare state going… in other words the welfare state will be the last to go, since government views its primary role as providing entitlements to afro americans).

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    Eventually it will resemble It is a failed state on many levels, which may cause has caused the devolution of this nation. And since we they are now globalized, most foreign nations will suffer from their own economic chaos once our their economy degrades; so there will not be any foreign economic saviour coming to our their rescue (ready to buy more worthless T Bills).
     
    There you are.
  106. @OilcanFloyd
    Trump doesn't even have the good sense or guts to tell his air-head daughter to shut up and knit some mittens for her kids, or to have his shyster son in law get out of government, and mind his own business, which is apparently shady financial and real estate deals and supporting zion.

    Trump was useful to defeat Hillary, and now that he has served his purpose, the search for a real American patriot and nationalist leader needs to intensify. Trump was never that person.

    I think the nation could come unglued, but I don't see the military joining in, at least not on the side of nationalists against the government. The average American soldier seems to be a PC brainwashed, globalist stooge, and the officer class appears to be made up of weak-minded careerists and yes men, little different from the soldiers, so I don't see much help coming from them. Add that to the fact that the government is trying to pass laws giving amnesty to illegals who will join a U.S. military that already has many soldiers of foreign birth or roots, and I don't see much help coming from the military, which seems to become more distant from the population as time goes by.

    The parallels to rome are unnerving.

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  107. @Minnesota Mary
    I have the names of the traitors all knitted in my scarf!

    Madame De Farge

    That must be the longest scarf in the northern hemisphere!

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  108. He’s not pandering to the left. He’s pandering to the Cabal. The tribe doesn’t have left or right, anyone who can fill their agenda is their guy. DJT has now surrounded himself with the tribe. As Pat, in one of his article said, they’ve got where they want him to be but are still out to get him!
    Can we have a similar investigation on Israel and its satellites in this country as we’re having on Russia? Just imagining it would be considered treason

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    "He’s not pandering to the left. He’s pandering to the Cabal.... Can we have a similar investigation on Israel and its satellites in this country as we’re having on Russia?"
    Agree
  109. To my fellow jews living in the usa.the possibility of peace in the middle east and also peace for the israeli people is real.give the don a chance.back off a little and stop squeezing his balls.
    As i said last year trump is not a all or nothing.take it or leave it.he does deals.this might be an opportunity for both jews in israel and the diaspora.i know one thing for certain.nothing will fly without russian support.no matter how hard you go after the “russian back channel”.obviously we want the best deal for everyone and pressure must be applied.
    I believe that in the end it will ultimately be in the hands of God.to have faith is to make real the possible.

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    • Replies: @Sam Shama
    I agree DT needs to be left alone. The man has everyone's best interests at heart. This is getting quite absurd (squeezing his T's). I think a 1SS may be optimal with the PA retaining civil authority. Hope we see it, at least a plan.
  110. @gda
    If you think he has "nothing to show for his domestic achievements" and that he "does not have any coherent domestic or foreign policy" it suggests to me that you're either a Democratic troll, not paying attention, or just plain ignorant.

    One example - by pulling out of the Paris "Accord" he has saved the US around $100 trillion over the next 8o years, as well as at least one, if not more, percentage points in GDP growth over those years. Not to speak of millions of jobs. In 10 years time, this will no doubt be recognized as his signature achievement.

    You can easily find the myriad of other domestic and foreign policy achievements if you really want. But its clear you really don't want.

    I find it amusing that you would side with the enemy in recommending he stop tweeting. How many before you said he would never win the nomination, then he would never win the Presidency, BECAUSE he couldn't stop tweeting. They ALL were just as wrong as you are now.

    Re: Paris ? As the whole accord was non-binding, & placed exactly zero obligations on the US, Trump’s withdrawal amounts to a media stunt. I guess it plays to his base, which is fair enough, but, let’s forget all the scare figures etc: the US could implement the accord however they wanted — just like the other nations.
    As for any negative affects on friends or allies: the question for the US is whether they have lost any leverage or any opportunities….

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  111. @themann
    Fitness is a prerequisite for combat and even our active duty military personnel are in some degree to fat to fight. This might be mitigated by the fact that the next war will be dominated by mechanical\cybernetic\EMP type weapons. As a small example, knocking out the AC for an entire city during the summer months would likely severely reduce anyone's ardor for fighting. But we will never fight another Civil War with mass infantry formations.


    Maybe a more realistic goal would be to appeal to American's inner sloth, perhaps a national tax strike with the idea of ending the income tax forever. Only the top 50% or so of earners pay much income tax, if they all took a couple of months off, no income, no tax, the Federal Government would be in extremis in short order. A lot less bloody too.

    The general strike, which might also appeal to sloth, is an underrated instrument of economic coercion.

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  112. @Corvinus
    "Trump will deal with it by bombing Iran and Syria thereby starting a war with Russia."

    Let us assume there will be this impending war with Russia and/or China. Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction. Awesome!

    Would not this scenario actually benefit those on the Alt Right who believe this preferred course of action is necessary for a Christian reboot of our world? Perhaps nuclear holocaust IS the desired outcome.

    So, in the end, are we able to count on YOUR leadership as part of this Christian New World Order?

    I came across this gem becauseI often find interesting the Blair Mountaineer’s comments (I ignore Corpenis as a matter of course):

    Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction.

    Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on. And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily. For the love of God, please let’s do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A. Hell, I’m too old to be drafted (I think; I’ve not checked that law in a long time) but still young enough to serve, and I’d volunteer to re-up in a heartbeat for that one.

    Corpenis remains as stupid as ever. Carry on, jackass.

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    "Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on."

    Not if there is a protracted nuclear winter. People will be desperate in their survival. There will be multiple competing factions. No one is going to "win" here.

    "And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily."

    It won't be just the Chinese who are dead, but humanity. Are you that dense?

    "For the love of God, please let’s do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A."

    A nuclear war, not a conventional one.
  113. @Corvinus
    "The important things is that you aren’t around after the nuclear fires burn down."

    We ALL won't be here. And I see that you finally came out of the woodwork. I'm surprised you came back. Recall that you asked me this question--“Sources and citations, please. Aren’t your really just projecting your own opinions and biases onto ALL Americans? How do you know that “when pressed, they talk about their ancestral roots?”

    I supplied the requisite links. Somehow you avoided a rebuttal. Interesting to say the least.

    Been watxhing too many movies again, have you?

    For one thing, a war among China, Russia, and what used to be the U.S.A. willalmoat certainly not involve significant, or even any, use of nuclear weapons, as noneof these places is yet run by a simpleton or madman in the mould of, say, Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Un (or you!).

    For another thing, even a nasty nucelar exhange among those nations has no chance of causing the extinction of the human race; indeed, if it caused us all to revert to the Stone Age and decimated the human population to, say, less than a billion, it would probably be a net benefit ecologically, on a planetary scale, over what is happening now.

    You are an innumerate dumbass who does not understand physics or military science.

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    "For one thing, a war among China, Russia, and what used to be the U.S.A. willalmoat certainly not involve significant, or even any, use of nuclear weapons as noneof these places is yet run by a simpleton or madman in the mould of, say, Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Un (or you!)."

    You need not be a madman to use nukes, just be hot-tempered or have things spiral out of control.

    "For another thing, even a nasty nucelar exhange among those nations has no chance of causing the extinction of the human race."

    Educate yourself.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-lethality-of-nuclear-weapons-nuclear-war-has-no-winner/5385611

    "indeed, if it caused us all to revert to the Stone Age and decimated the human population to, say, less than a billion, it would probably be a net benefit ecologically, on a planetary scale, over what is happening now."

    Our world's infrastructure would be in tatters. Modern technology would cease to exist. And that billion people left would live how and in what ways?
  114. @Authenticjazzman
    Agreed, and the most amazing, yet perplexing aspect of this pandemonia is the fact that they, the leftists simply are too stupid to realize that when they bring the nation, when they bring the economy down into anarchy and mayhem, they are going down with it.

    Of course the edumacated dimwits, professors, teachers, legal and medical types, they assume that they will be the honchos in the new utopia, and that they will be immune to purge, and "cleansing", and they couldn't be more off base with their naive wishful thinking.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1793, airborne qualified US Army vet and pro jaz musician.

    The horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it: do you actually type it into each comment, or do use a script, or do you simply keep the text handy on a clipboard for rapid insertion anytime uou bloviate online?

    Despite my contempt, mh curiousity is nonetheless genuine.

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    " this horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it"

    Well first of all I am coming along in years but two hundred-plus is a bit of an overkill.

    "Despite my contempt"

    Okay so does your "contempt" for myself, mean that I am supposed to feel inferior?

    Thirdly : Ukfay Ouyay

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    PS I post the information that you despise just to piss off cretins like yourself.

    , @MEexpert
    I have said many times a person with real credentials doesn't have to write all that jazz in every post. I don't know who he is trying to impress or why? This guy is a total fake. I see now he has added something more. If he is a Mensa member since 1793 he must be 250 years old or older or maybe he was born a Mensa member, in which case he is 224 years old.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    The scale of the overcompensation reveals just a giant inferiority complex masquerading as a person of substance. The greatest offence here is the harm done to the Mensa brand each time he comments. Sad.
  115. @joef

    Each phase of our national journey has been marked by an expansion of centralized power.
     
    We may never see a large scale totalitarian government. Government itself is made up of imperfect fallible people. It is not capable of being omnipotent, nor infinite. It is flawed and cannot refute the laws of the universe.

    Our current government in most of its forms (where the self serving politicians and deep state bureaucrats vastly outnumber the dedicated public servants among them) is descending into incompetency. Economically it has created the national equivalent of a Ponzi scheme, with unserviceable debt being its main feature. Our government subsists on the economy, not the other way around. And our economy is unsustainable, and the government will not be able to subsist well without it.

    Eventually it will resemble a failed state on many levels, which may cause the devolution of this nation. And since we are now globalized, most foreign nations will suffer from their own economic chaos once our economy degrades; so their will not be any foreign economic savior coming to our rescue (ready to buy more worthless T Bills).

    This potential economic breakup will probably render our government mostly impotent.
    Thus, our government may not have the future ability/capacity to be as totalitarian as they wish to be, once things fall apart. Our larger economy will take longer to fall than other smaller economies (most recent being Venezuela), but will probably fall a lot harder when it does.

    In failed state like conditions, depending where you are, you will probably see the growth of local economies, or warlords, or chaos (and if warlords are the result, you are just trading one form of tyranny for another). But it definitely will not be government business as usual (especially during economic decline when government will cannibalize itself of other services to keep the welfare state going... in other words the welfare state will be the last to go, since government views its primary role as providing entitlements to afro americans).

    Eventually it will resemble It is a failed state on many levels, which may cause has caused the devolution of this nation. And since we they are now globalized, most foreign nations will suffer from their own economic chaos once our their economy degrades; so there will not be any foreign economic saviour coming to our their rescue (ready to buy more worthless T Bills).

    There you are.

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  116. @Agent76
    You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?

    “You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?”

    I already won the initial dance off. You tried to pull a fast one on the judges and got disqualified. You are a rank amateur.

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    "To belittle, you have to be little." - Kahlil Gibran

    Can't see the forest through the trees

    This term means someone is so simple minded that they can't figure out the simplest problems. Their minds are like great big empty voids of any kind of logical thought. This is why even though they can see the trees their simple minds can't grasp that's the forest.
  117. @Kudzu Bob
    Hilarious! You've moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn't be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression.

    “Hilarious! You’ve moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn’t be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression.”

    It’s Civil War, Southron. And I was merely responding to your inquiry. There was no “moving of goalposts” here.

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    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts, but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln's War. Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz's militant ignorance of such matters.

    The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze, far easier than, say, shooting Congressmen who are playing softball.
  118. @Autochthon
    I came across this gem becauseI often find interesting the Blair Mountaineer's comments (I ignore Corpenis as a matter of course):

    Hundreds of millions of people will die, with the human race on the road to extinction.
     
    Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on. And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily. For the love of God, please let's do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A. Hell, I'm too old to be drafted (I think; I've not checked that law in a long time) but still young enough to serve, and I'd volunteer to re-up in a heartbeat for that one.

    Corpenis remains as stupid as ever. Carry on, jackass.

    “Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on.”

    Not if there is a protracted nuclear winter. People will be desperate in their survival. There will be multiple competing factions. No one is going to “win” here.

    “And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily.”

    It won’t be just the Chinese who are dead, but humanity. Are you that dense?

    “For the love of God, please let’s do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A.”

    A nuclear war, not a conventional one.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    You didn't even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again.

    A repetition of one's initial argument is not a surrebuttal, Einstein.
  119. Just in case some may have missed this part of our history right after September 11, 2001.

    January 10, 2014 *500* Years of History Shows that Mass Spying Is Always Aimed at Crushing Dissent *It’s Never to Protect Us From Bad Guys*

    No matter which government conducts mass surveillance, they also do it to crush dissent, and then give a false rationale for why they’re doing it.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/500-years-of-history-shows-that-mass-spying-is-always-aimed-at-crushing-dissent/5364462

    Jan 5, 2008 We must repeal the PATRIOT Act!

    We have started on a very perilous path, and we need to stop and turn around before it becomes extremely difficult to stop. As of right now, if someone shows up and calls you unpatriotic, or as aiding the enemy, you can be taken away with no constitutional rights and no legal protections to prove otherwise.

    https://youtu.be/1EiY7AarMoI

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    The video link above has been removed but this one will have to do for now.

    Oct 24, 2010 Repeal The Patriot Act NOW

    On the morning of October 24th 2001 the citizens of the United States woke up unaware that there govt. had created a new law without even reading it that stripped us all of our basic constitutional rights using the fear of the tragedy of 9\11 to make it seem like we had no choice.

    https://youtu.be/17UWhFn3Dmo

  120. @Agent76
    Just in case some may have missed this part of our history right after September 11, 2001.

    January 10, 2014 *500* Years of History Shows that Mass Spying Is Always Aimed at Crushing Dissent *It’s Never to Protect Us From Bad Guys*

    No matter which government conducts mass surveillance, they also do it to crush dissent, and then give a false rationale for why they’re doing it.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/500-years-of-history-shows-that-mass-spying-is-always-aimed-at-crushing-dissent/5364462

    Jan 5, 2008 We must repeal the PATRIOT Act!

    We have started on a very perilous path, and we need to stop and turn around before it becomes extremely difficult to stop. As of right now, if someone shows up and calls you unpatriotic, or as aiding the enemy, you can be taken away with no constitutional rights and no legal protections to prove otherwise.

    https://youtu.be/1EiY7AarMoI

    The video link above has been removed but this one will have to do for now.

    Oct 24, 2010 Repeal The Patriot Act NOW

    On the morning of October 24th 2001 the citizens of the United States woke up unaware that there govt. had created a new law without even reading it that stripped us all of our basic constitutional rights using the fear of the tragedy of 9\11 to make it seem like we had no choice.

    https://youtu.be/17UWhFn3Dmo

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  121. Americans have been spied on for DECADES, if not generations. Since (pre-patriot act days) it was illegal for American spy agencies to conduct domestic spying on American citizens, our government had an agreement with the UK to spy on Americans while we “returned the favor” by spying on Britons. This “arrangement” has been in place ever since John Foster Dulles headed the CIA…

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  122. @truthtellerAryan
    He's not pandering to the left. He's pandering to the Cabal. The tribe doesn't have left or right, anyone who can fill their agenda is their guy. DJT has now surrounded himself with the tribe. As Pat, in one of his article said, they've got where they want him to be but are still out to get him!
    Can we have a similar investigation on Israel and its satellites in this country as we're having on Russia? Just imagining it would be considered treason

    “He’s not pandering to the left. He’s pandering to the Cabal…. Can we have a similar investigation on Israel and its satellites in this country as we’re having on Russia?”
    Agree

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  123. @mcohen
    To my fellow jews living in the usa.the possibility of peace in the middle east and also peace for the israeli people is real.give the don a chance.back off a little and stop squeezing his balls.
    As i said last year trump is not a all or nothing.take it or leave it.he does deals.this might be an opportunity for both jews in israel and the diaspora.i know one thing for certain.nothing will fly without russian support.no matter how hard you go after the "russian back channel".obviously we want the best deal for everyone and pressure must be applied.
    I believe that in the end it will ultimately be in the hands of God.to have faith is to make real the possible.

    I agree DT needs to be left alone. The man has everyone’s best interests at heart. This is getting quite absurd (squeezing his T’s). I think a 1SS may be optimal with the PA retaining civil authority. Hope we see it, at least a plan.

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    A plan and concrete steps to stick to it.
    the complex mix of relegion, resources and revolution could easily ignite a world war.
    One state.two states thats up to the people but jerusalem must remain whole.no wall down the middle.accessible to all.
  124. @Corvinus
    "Intentional hyperbole perhaps, but not funny or rhetorically persuasive, and just retarded. What war causes extinction of its participants? By definition, some faction wins and therefor lives on."

    Not if there is a protracted nuclear winter. People will be desperate in their survival. There will be multiple competing factions. No one is going to "win" here.

    "And hundreds of millions of deaths (especially of Chinese) is hardly any setback to a species with a population long since grossly, obscenely beyond its ecological limits, now numbering something like seven or eight billion and increasing astronomiclaly daily."

    It won't be just the Chinese who are dead, but humanity. Are you that dense?

    "For the love of God, please let’s do have a war with the cockroach Chinese, if only to curb their ongoing invasions of what used to be the U.S.A."

    A nuclear war, not a conventional one.

    You didn’t even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again.

    A repetition of one’s initial argument is not a surrebuttal, Einstein.

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    "You didn’t even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again."

    The source I provided obliterated the claims offered by your source.
    , @Mika-Non
    It's Corvinus. Like Tiny Duck except he can type three-syllable words now and then.
  125. @Kilo 4/11
    Your daughter is perceptive and cut right to the heart of the issue.

    Regarding whether Americans react with violence to an impeachment of President Trump, it all depends on who wins the information/propaganda war. If his enemies can succeed in creating an image of legality and due process for their action, we may remain peaceful. But I think his defenders do not need to create much doubt about the legitimacy of any charges against Trump for their to be violence in his support. Of course, the President's reaction will be crucial. I hope he does not back down, at least not for anything petty, like Nixon did.

    Regarding whether Americans react with violence to an impeachment of President Trump, it all depends on who wins the information/propaganda war.

    Agreed.

    If his enemies can succeed in creating an image of legality and due process for their action, we may remain peaceful.

    With how much control they have over the Mass Media Megaphone (and the judiciary), how is their success at this not pretty much guaranteed?

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  126. @Autochthon
    Been watxhing too many movies again, have you?

    For one thing, a war among China, Russia, and what used to be the U.S.A. willalmoat certainly not involve significant, or even any, use of nuclear weapons, as noneof these places is yet run by a simpleton or madman in the mould of, say, Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Un (or you!).

    For another thing, even a nasty nucelar exhange among those nations has no chance of causing the extinction of the human race; indeed, if it caused us all to revert to the Stone Age and decimated the human population to, say, less than a billion, it would probably be a net benefit ecologically, on a planetary scale, over what is happening now.

    You are an innumerate dumbass who does not understand physics or military science.

    “For one thing, a war among China, Russia, and what used to be the U.S.A. willalmoat certainly not involve significant, or even any, use of nuclear weapons as noneof these places is yet run by a simpleton or madman in the mould of, say, Osama Bin Laden or Kim Jong Un (or you!).”

    You need not be a madman to use nukes, just be hot-tempered or have things spiral out of control.

    “For another thing, even a nasty nucelar exhange among those nations has no chance of causing the extinction of the human race.”

    Educate yourself.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-lethality-of-nuclear-weapons-nuclear-war-has-no-winner/5385611

    “indeed, if it caused us all to revert to the Stone Age and decimated the human population to, say, less than a billion, it would probably be a net benefit ecologically, on a planetary scale, over what is happening now.”

    Our world’s infrastructure would be in tatters. Modern technology would cease to exist. And that billion people left would live how and in what ways?

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  127. @Autochthon
    The horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it: do you actually type it into each comment, or do use a script, or do you simply keep the text handy on a clipboard for rapid insertion anytime uou bloviate online?

    Despite my contempt, mh curiousity is nonetheless genuine.

    ” this horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it”

    Well first of all I am coming along in years but two hundred-plus is a bit of an overkill.

    “Despite my contempt”

    Okay so does your “contempt” for myself, mean that I am supposed to feel inferior?

    Thirdly : Ukfay Ouyay

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    PS I post the information that you despise just to piss off cretins like yourself.

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  128. @Corvinus
    "You really should view and give evidence based articles and factual proof of your beliefs in government. I can all day long. Want a dance?"

    I already won the initial dance off. You tried to pull a fast one on the judges and got disqualified. You are a rank amateur.

    “To belittle, you have to be little.” – Kahlil Gibran

    Can’t see the forest through the trees

    This term means someone is so simple minded that they can’t figure out the simplest problems. Their minds are like great big empty voids of any kind of logical thought. This is why even though they can see the trees their simple minds can’t grasp that’s the forest.

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    Again, what specific court case from 2016 are you referring to? You nor the source lists it. Peculiar, to say the least. Why are you avoiding answering this important question?
  129. @Autochthon
    The horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it: do you actually type it into each comment, or do use a script, or do you simply keep the text handy on a clipboard for rapid insertion anytime uou bloviate online?

    Despite my contempt, mh curiousity is nonetheless genuine.

    I have said many times a person with real credentials doesn’t have to write all that jazz in every post. I don’t know who he is trying to impress or why? This guy is a total fake. I see now he has added something more. If he is a Mensa member since 1793 he must be 250 years old or older or maybe he was born a Mensa member, in which case he is 224 years old.

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  130. @jacques sheete
    Bless you, Father, but never try to reason with a blowhard that constantly toots its own horn. It's nearly a mortal sin.

    Now, three Our Fathers a coupla Hail Marys, a promise to never do that again, and yer good to go...!

    Toot toot!

    PS: I want to see you after Mass next Sunday.

    If you want to hang with me after church I hope you’re a drinking man.
    Oh and you’re not one of those bluenoses that don’t like strippers,are ye son?

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  131. @Sam Shama
    I agree DT needs to be left alone. The man has everyone's best interests at heart. This is getting quite absurd (squeezing his T's). I think a 1SS may be optimal with the PA retaining civil authority. Hope we see it, at least a plan.

    A plan and concrete steps to stick to it.
    the complex mix of relegion, resources and revolution could easily ignite a world war.
    One state.two states thats up to the people but jerusalem must remain whole.no wall down the middle.accessible to all.

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  132. @Corvinus
    "Hilarious! You’ve moved the goal posts from claiming that media figures wouldn’t be targeted in a hypothetical future civil war to quibbling over just how many media figures were targeted during the War of Northern Aggression."

    It's Civil War, Southron. And I was merely responding to your inquiry. There was no "moving of goalposts" here.

    It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts, but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln’s War. Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz’s militant ignorance of such matters.

    The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze, far easier than, say, shooting Congressmen who are playing softball.

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    "It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts..."

    Fake news story on your part.

    "but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln’s War."

    Properly called the Civil War.

    Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz’s militant ignorance of such matters.

    "The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze..."

    Do you plan on pulling a St. Breivik here or are you just babbling?
  133. @FusionPoweredMeatstick
    Comey wanted Mueller in there, and Mueller is doing what he will, because Mueller is there primarily to PROTECT Obama and Clinton and their vast left wing cabal, just like Comey did before he was canned.

    Mucking up Trump's life and those of Trump's people in the process is merely a sweet bonus. Not to mention the excellent distraction/diversion value that provides.

    The DC “swamp” has descended into criminality. Foremost among their misdeeds, the war crimes of the past 24 years. All the while, protected by the “DC Consigliere, Inc”: the spook army of the Intel Community that monitors us all, the DoJ prosecutorial Praetorian guard, and the investigative “fix-is-in” FBI. And of course, in that period, the corporate presstitute media inundated the sheeple with “fakenews” war justifications, as they now inundate the sheeple with Trump-hate “fakenews”.

    These are the forces arrayed against Pres Trump in his stated mission to “drain the swamp”. On his side, Trump has the very substantial powers of the Presidency at his disposal, but only if he can manage to get the reins of power firmly in his grasp.

    There’s the crucial “if”. So far, the swamp has fought him successfully. The chickenshjt Congress has postured and harassed him, while the FBI, and CIA have sought to neuter him,… or worse. The leadership of these latter two organizations retain their power, remaining beyond presidential control, and unaccountable. So here I see Trump’s first challenge: he must install a ferocious, Trump-loyal prosecutorial staff at DoJ, and an FBI not headed by a DC insider, but rather by someone who can be counted on to go after the swamp critters rather than protect them. (It’s a damn shame Vincent Bugliosi, the author of “The Trial of George W Bush for Murder”, is dead.)

    Note: make no mistake, Mueller and Comey are BFFs, and Mueller’s “impeccable integrity and honor” is fictional. As FBI director after 911, he authorized the the numerous phony terrorist “plots” cooked up against indigent ghetto blacks. Bullshjt plots cynically intended to show the FBI’s “diligence” in the fight against terrorism, and deflect from their 911 incompetence. That’s the “honorable” Mr.Mueller. He is nothing but a hitman for the ruling class, and his mission is Trump’s takedown. And Trump knows this.

    This is as close as possible to outright war in DC, but so far without actual bloodshed. Stay tuned. Trump is no pussy. The excitement has barely begun.

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  134. @Authenticjazzman
    "Their ( the Republicans) party is toast"

    Why is their party toast?

    For one simple reason :

    They are terrified of being labeled : RACISTS, and the democrats do indeed pull the racist card for each and any issue.

    I have been saying for months and years there is only one solution to this dilema and that being the republicans MUST start labeling democrats : RACIST 24/7, and thereby turn the narrative upside down. There is and will not be any other effective action.

    The Republicans could cause a political earthquake in their favor, by simply reminding or informing the general public , on a daily basis, of the history of the KKK, as no young american kid, black brown or white has a clue as to the nature or genesis of this organisation, and by the school system simply never mentioning the roots of it, the KKK, this has led to the automatic assumption that it was a republican creation.

    Presidential tweets starting off with the phrase : " Democrats, party of the KKK", would be an effective beginning.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Actually, white people need grow a sack and embrace the term racist. THIS is the only way this cuckholdry will end.

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  135. @exiled off mainstreet
    Trump needs to go after the deep state and quit attempting to mollify it with actions such as support of Saudi terrorists. It is a fight to the finish and if the power structure wins, our days are numbered.

    To take down the CIA, Trump should release the full 6700 page CIA Torture Report to the public, and arrest and charge with war crimes every one of the torturers and every CIA officer up the line right up to the CIA heads during the torture period: Tenet and Hayden.

    To deal with Congress, Trump should issue war crimes indictments to all who voted for the AUMF in Iraq and all who then voted for follow-on funding. Justification: The UN Charter as US Law courtesy of The “Supremacy” clause of the Constitution.

    Once Trump has the DoJ and the FBI under control, these are the swamp-draining tools at his disposal. DC arrogance blinds them to their vulnerability. They think they are untouchable. But Trump is no DC old-boy’s-club insider. And he’s no pussy. A certain phrase comes to mind regarding arrogant overreach:

    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

    And in regard to Mueller’s effort to take Trump down: Trump is president and can declassify any damn thing he wants. He could declassify every scrap of evidence collected to this point by the House, Senate, FBI, and Mueller investigations up to this point. Webcams on everyone. Put the whole show out there in public view. Make the investigations totally transparent. Make it reality tv in real time on the internet, rather than a sneaky, veiled, back-room plot. Governement in the sunshine accompanied by a discussion of the whole nasty bullshjt business on facebook, twitter, reddit, instagram, etc. God would I like to see that. Mueller would shjt himself.

    Dare to dream.

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    He could declassify every scrap of evidence collected to this point by the House, Senate, FBI, and Mueller investigations up to this point.
     
    No-one could take the information load and Hollywood would have to work crazy hours to pump out compelling serials to watch to distract us.
  136. @MEexpert
    I have said many times a person with real credentials doesn't have to write all that jazz in every post. I don't know who he is trying to impress or why? This guy is a total fake. I see now he has added something more. If he is a Mensa member since 1793 he must be 250 years old or older or maybe he was born a Mensa member, in which case he is 224 years old.

    Cretin! (Cretins, even….)

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  137. @Autochthon
    The horseshit about 1793 and Mensa and all the rest of it: do you actually type it into each comment, or do use a script, or do you simply keep the text handy on a clipboard for rapid insertion anytime uou bloviate online?

    Despite my contempt, mh curiousity is nonetheless genuine.

    The scale of the overcompensation reveals just a giant inferiority complex masquerading as a person of substance. The greatest offence here is the harm done to the Mensa brand each time he comments. Sad.

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  138. @hammerfist
    Great article ... succinct overview. It's a coup we are witnessing...

    With a little luck it will end like the Turkish coup, with all the coup plotters in jail.

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  139. @Kudzu Bob
    It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts, but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln's War. Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz's militant ignorance of such matters.

    The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze, far easier than, say, shooting Congressmen who are playing softball.

    “It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts…”

    Fake news story on your part.

    “but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln’s War.”

    Properly called the Civil War.

    Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz’s militant ignorance of such matters.

    “The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze…”

    Do you plan on pulling a St. Breivik here or are you just babbling?

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    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence, which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict, never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won't change a thing.
  140. @Autochthon
    You didn't even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again.

    A repetition of one's initial argument is not a surrebuttal, Einstein.

    “You didn’t even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again.”

    The source I provided obliterated the claims offered by your source.

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  141. @Agent76
    "To belittle, you have to be little." - Kahlil Gibran

    Can't see the forest through the trees

    This term means someone is so simple minded that they can't figure out the simplest problems. Their minds are like great big empty voids of any kind of logical thought. This is why even though they can see the trees their simple minds can't grasp that's the forest.

    Again, what specific court case from 2016 are you referring to? You nor the source lists it. Peculiar, to say the least. Why are you avoiding answering this important question?

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  142. @bluedog
    Your right of course a few years back when they were trying to break age old treaties on the Indian reservations here in N.Y. we were part of the protesters, and a state trooper told us "we are not here to protect the people we are here to protect the state",and that's the way it is...

    I agree. Simple search the history of policing in the U.S.

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  143. @Disenfrenchised
    Trump is making enemies everywhere. Everything started going downhill the day he brought in his NY liberal jewish son-in-law Jared Kushner to run the show. Thanks to Jared's brilliant "advice", Trump stuffed his cabinet with billionaire NY liberal Jews from Wall Street, tried to pander to the left by completely flip flopping on nearly every single one of his campaign promises especially on immigration and foreign policy, the two top issues that got him elected, while wasting his political capital on approving a horribly botched healthcare "fix" that actually made things worse. Ivanka's "Women Entrepreneur Fund" is now the new pay-to-play scheme in DC, accepting its first major bribe from a foreign government Saudi Arabia for $40m. This is a new scandal waiting to break out, the new Clinton Foundation, except she won't have the media to protect her. Now few except his die hard supporters really care what happens to him anymore.

    Hi Disenfrenchised, the comment # 115 was my response and emphasis to your comment…..

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  144. @Corvinus
    "It is comical to watch you quibble and move the goal posts..."

    Fake news story on your part.

    "but even funnier that you think that no media figures were targeted in Mr. Lincoln’s War."

    Properly called the Civil War.

    Now I understand why Gore Vidal was so disgusted by Norman Podhoretz’s militant ignorance of such matters.

    "The next time around, reaching out and touching soft targets like media figures will be a breeze..."

    Do you plan on pulling a St. Breivik here or are you just babbling?

    You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence, which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict, never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won’t change a thing.

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    "You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence..."

    Excuse you, I have remained on the subject. I concurred from the beginning--there were reporters that were arrested by the Union and the Confederacy during the Civil War, either because they were considered spies or traitors.

    Again, when you stated “a great many”, what numbers are we talking about?

    "which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict..."

    I never made that claim directly or indirectly. Again, I ask which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    Simple questions for you to answer.

    "...never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won’t change a thing."

    Assassinated by a white nationalist group. So, how many similar cases since June 18, 1984?
  145. From the perspective of the leftist, there is no need for a civil war, because they do not need one. They are winning already without it. If they actually created a civil war, they would risk losing. The soft living SJW wants easy fights, where their adversaries cannot fight back, while supported by leftist coopted institutions like the courts, prosecutors, academia, MSM, and politicians. Why would they give that up when they do not like to fight fair?

    They have so successively attacked the right to self defense (a right that is so self evident, it did not need to be included in the Bill of Rights), that gun control has almost become a moot point. The ferguson effect is not only to inhibit the police from defending themselves against aggressive force, but to inhibit citizens as well (e g Trayvon Martin case in Florida: it is doubtful that Trayvon bashed Zim’s head on the pavement after he was fatally shot; thus, it was Trayvon who introduced the act of deadly force first). If they remove from the police the right to protect oneself from aggressive force, it certainly will not be kept by the citizen.

    The only thing that would actually lead to a civil war is that this is not economically sustainable in the long term. Once the economic decline disrupts commerce enough to create the conditions for widespread scarcity, the leftist created racial balkanization will probably lead to some type of shooting civil war.

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    From the perspective of the leftist, there is no need for a civil war, because they do not need one. They are winning already without it. If they actually created a civil war, they would risk losing. The soft living SJW wants easy fights, where their adversaries cannot fight back, while supported by leftist coopted institutions like the courts, prosecutors, academia, MSM, and politicians. Why would they give that up when they do not like to fight fair?
     
    Through general arrogance and the pleasure of destroying anything traditionalist while being cheered on by politicians and the press.

    For example 1936 Spain just prior to the Civil War, with the destruction of Churches and Church schools and the killing of priests among much else. The spark that set off the conflict was the kidnapping and murder of Calvo Sotelo (the leading figure in parliament of the traditional right) by a leftist militia the "Guardia de Asalto" .
  146. @Jeff Davis
    To take down the CIA, Trump should release the full 6700 page CIA Torture Report to the public, and arrest and charge with war crimes every one of the torturers and every CIA officer up the line right up to the CIA heads during the torture period: Tenet and Hayden.

    To deal with Congress, Trump should issue war crimes indictments to all who voted for the AUMF in Iraq and all who then voted for follow-on funding. Justification: The UN Charter as US Law courtesy of The "Supremacy" clause of the Constitution.

    Once Trump has the DoJ and the FBI under control, these are the swamp-draining tools at his disposal. DC arrogance blinds them to their vulnerability. They think they are untouchable. But Trump is no DC old-boy's-club insider. And he's no pussy. A certain phrase comes to mind regarding arrogant overreach:


    I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
     
    And in regard to Mueller's effort to take Trump down: Trump is president and can declassify any damn thing he wants. He could declassify every scrap of evidence collected to this point by the House, Senate, FBI, and Mueller investigations up to this point. Webcams on everyone. Put the whole show out there in public view. Make the investigations totally transparent. Make it reality tv in real time on the internet, rather than a sneaky, veiled, back-room plot. Governement in the sunshine accompanied by a discussion of the whole nasty bullshjt business on facebook, twitter, reddit, instagram, etc. God would I like to see that. Mueller would shjt himself.

    Dare to dream.

    He could declassify every scrap of evidence collected to this point by the House, Senate, FBI, and Mueller investigations up to this point.

    No-one could take the information load and Hollywood would have to work crazy hours to pump out compelling serials to watch to distract us.

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  147. @Autochthon
    You didn't even read the writings by the nuclear physicist I cited contradicting your doomsaying nonsense before you parroted that same nonsense again.

    A repetition of one's initial argument is not a surrebuttal, Einstein.

    It’s Corvinus. Like Tiny Duck except he can type three-syllable words now and then.

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  148. @joef
    From the perspective of the leftist, there is no need for a civil war, because they do not need one. They are winning already without it. If they actually created a civil war, they would risk losing. The soft living SJW wants easy fights, where their adversaries cannot fight back, while supported by leftist coopted institutions like the courts, prosecutors, academia, MSM, and politicians. Why would they give that up when they do not like to fight fair?

    They have so successively attacked the right to self defense (a right that is so self evident, it did not need to be included in the Bill of Rights), that gun control has almost become a moot point. The ferguson effect is not only to inhibit the police from defending themselves against aggressive force, but to inhibit citizens as well (e g Trayvon Martin case in Florida: it is doubtful that Trayvon bashed Zim's head on the pavement after he was fatally shot; thus, it was Trayvon who introduced the act of deadly force first). If they remove from the police the right to protect oneself from aggressive force, it certainly will not be kept by the citizen.

    The only thing that would actually lead to a civil war is that this is not economically sustainable in the long term. Once the economic decline disrupts commerce enough to create the conditions for widespread scarcity, the leftist created racial balkanization will probably lead to some type of shooting civil war.

    From the perspective of the leftist, there is no need for a civil war, because they do not need one. They are winning already without it. If they actually created a civil war, they would risk losing. The soft living SJW wants easy fights, where their adversaries cannot fight back, while supported by leftist coopted institutions like the courts, prosecutors, academia, MSM, and politicians. Why would they give that up when they do not like to fight fair?

    Through general arrogance and the pleasure of destroying anything traditionalist while being cheered on by politicians and the press.

    For example 1936 Spain just prior to the Civil War, with the destruction of Churches and Church schools and the killing of priests among much else. The spark that set off the conflict was the kidnapping and murder of Calvo Sotelo (the leading figure in parliament of the traditional right) by a leftist militia the “Guardia de Asalto” .

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    I used to believe that one day the leftist would push things too far, and then there would be a backlash, where even sincere libs would disown leftist, and rational working Blacks would realize they are being used. It hasn't happened yet, and I do not think it ever will (not until we are economically ruined).

    It seems the more they push, the more we retreat, and vote for Republicans to defend us, when they have no intention of doing so. Worse off the Republicans have become just as much of our enemy by supporting corporatist and globalist goals at our expense. Under their guidance, corporations pursue PC social activist agendas more vehemently than governments do, hoping to garner good press from the MSM; While they make the rest of us into underemployed consumers living off debt. Now we are politically trapped between statist Democrats and corporatist Republicans.

    Some big voices, such as radio talk show host Bob Grant, who for decades warned us about our decline, did not alter this trend. Eventually he was silenced with bogus accusations of racism by race baiting hustlers, and feckless politicians. Soon after that the MSM will give king race baiter A Sharpton more credibility, eventually leading up to multiple visits to the White House.
    People even refuse to fight against the leftist agenda when their own rational self interest is threatened, instead they respond with denial.

    The only thing that will stop this is when it cannot economically go on anymore. The positive is that the leftist will no longer have the resources to finance their political agenda. The bad news is that our economy will be devastated, where everyone suffers. But I am afraid nothing will change before then, while our national house burns down around us.

  149. @Miro23

    From the perspective of the leftist, there is no need for a civil war, because they do not need one. They are winning already without it. If they actually created a civil war, they would risk losing. The soft living SJW wants easy fights, where their adversaries cannot fight back, while supported by leftist coopted institutions like the courts, prosecutors, academia, MSM, and politicians. Why would they give that up when they do not like to fight fair?
     
    Through general arrogance and the pleasure of destroying anything traditionalist while being cheered on by politicians and the press.

    For example 1936 Spain just prior to the Civil War, with the destruction of Churches and Church schools and the killing of priests among much else. The spark that set off the conflict was the kidnapping and murder of Calvo Sotelo (the leading figure in parliament of the traditional right) by a leftist militia the "Guardia de Asalto" .

    I used to believe that one day the leftist would push things too far, and then there would be a backlash, where even sincere libs would disown leftist, and rational working Blacks would realize they are being used. It hasn’t happened yet, and I do not think it ever will (not until we are economically ruined).

    It seems the more they push, the more we retreat, and vote for Republicans to defend us, when they have no intention of doing so. Worse off the Republicans have become just as much of our enemy by supporting corporatist and globalist goals at our expense. Under their guidance, corporations pursue PC social activist agendas more vehemently than governments do, hoping to garner good press from the MSM; While they make the rest of us into underemployed consumers living off debt. Now we are politically trapped between statist Democrats and corporatist Republicans.

    Some big voices, such as radio talk show host Bob Grant, who for decades warned us about our decline, did not alter this trend. Eventually he was silenced with bogus accusations of racism by race baiting hustlers, and feckless politicians. Soon after that the MSM will give king race baiter A Sharpton more credibility, eventually leading up to multiple visits to the White House.
    People even refuse to fight against the leftist agenda when their own rational self interest is threatened, instead they respond with denial.

    The only thing that will stop this is when it cannot economically go on anymore. The positive is that the leftist will no longer have the resources to finance their political agenda. The bad news is that our economy will be devastated, where everyone suffers. But I am afraid nothing will change before then, while our national house burns down around us.

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    I agree that it's a constant attack from the left and mostly retreat for the traditional right.

    Part of the problem is that "radical" attacks have always been part of the leftist way, whereas the traditionalist right fights defense. They "defend" values by using the legal mechanisms of the state such as the courts and security services.

    The problem here is that the traditional "shields" of society have been captured by the left so "The Gates are Down".

    The US can still manage to hold a messy election and elect a traditionalist despite massive MSM and Establishment interference, but an isolated President has little chance, and is paralyzed by constant attacks, if in fact he hasn't already sold out.

    There are some parallels with Spain 1936. A shaky leftist government was taken over by leftist radicals animated by Bolshevism and out to eradicated every aspect of traditional society using the MSM, legal system and security services plus their own militias. All their thefts and violence either got government approval or the fearful legislators looked the other way.

    Spain eventually blew up with a military revolt by Spain's elite troops based in Spanish Morocco, and their move to the mainland aided by Hitler (HTT Nº 311 "Franco ought to erect a monument to the glory of the Junker 52. It is this aircraft that the Spanish revolution had to thank for its victory. It was a piece of luck that our aircraft were able to fly direct from Stuttgart to Spain.") But even here most of the regular army supported the leftist as did the navy. The security services (Civil Guard and police) were evenly split and most manufacturing and population centers were controlled by the Republican left.

    It's interesting that the same thing was happening in Weimar Germany about a decade earlier with a post WW1 leftist internationalist government attacking every feature of traditionalist German society.

    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever. The country was also being hit by Bolshevik inspired and Jewish led insurgencies (Rosa Luxemburg - Berlin 1919 "Spartacist Uprising", Eugen Levine - Munich 1919 "German Soviet Revolutionary Dictatorship").

    The Germans as a race just went crazy with the feeling of the time captured in Ernst Von Salomon's 1930 book "The Outlaws". https://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-Ernst-Von-Salomon/dp/1907166491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497773456&sr=8-1&keywords=salomon%2C+outlaws

  150. @Kudzu Bob
    You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence, which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict, never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won't change a thing.

    “You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence…”

    Excuse you, I have remained on the subject. I concurred from the beginning–there were reporters that were arrested by the Union and the Confederacy during the Civil War, either because they were considered spies or traitors.

    Again, when you stated “a great many”, what numbers are we talking about?

    “which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict…”

    I never made that claim directly or indirectly. Again, I ask which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this “legitimacy”? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    Simple questions for you to answer.

    “…never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won’t change a thing.”

    Assassinated by a white nationalist group. So, how many similar cases since June 18, 1984?

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    Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war, and you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants.
  151. @joef
    I used to believe that one day the leftist would push things too far, and then there would be a backlash, where even sincere libs would disown leftist, and rational working Blacks would realize they are being used. It hasn't happened yet, and I do not think it ever will (not until we are economically ruined).

    It seems the more they push, the more we retreat, and vote for Republicans to defend us, when they have no intention of doing so. Worse off the Republicans have become just as much of our enemy by supporting corporatist and globalist goals at our expense. Under their guidance, corporations pursue PC social activist agendas more vehemently than governments do, hoping to garner good press from the MSM; While they make the rest of us into underemployed consumers living off debt. Now we are politically trapped between statist Democrats and corporatist Republicans.

    Some big voices, such as radio talk show host Bob Grant, who for decades warned us about our decline, did not alter this trend. Eventually he was silenced with bogus accusations of racism by race baiting hustlers, and feckless politicians. Soon after that the MSM will give king race baiter A Sharpton more credibility, eventually leading up to multiple visits to the White House.
    People even refuse to fight against the leftist agenda when their own rational self interest is threatened, instead they respond with denial.

    The only thing that will stop this is when it cannot economically go on anymore. The positive is that the leftist will no longer have the resources to finance their political agenda. The bad news is that our economy will be devastated, where everyone suffers. But I am afraid nothing will change before then, while our national house burns down around us.

    I agree that it’s a constant attack from the left and mostly retreat for the traditional right.

    Part of the problem is that “radical” attacks have always been part of the leftist way, whereas the traditionalist right fights defense. They “defend” values by using the legal mechanisms of the state such as the courts and security services.

    The problem here is that the traditional “shields” of society have been captured by the left so “The Gates are Down”.

    The US can still manage to hold a messy election and elect a traditionalist despite massive MSM and Establishment interference, but an isolated President has little chance, and is paralyzed by constant attacks, if in fact he hasn’t already sold out.

    There are some parallels with Spain 1936. A shaky leftist government was taken over by leftist radicals animated by Bolshevism and out to eradicated every aspect of traditional society using the MSM, legal system and security services plus their own militias. All their thefts and violence either got government approval or the fearful legislators looked the other way.

    Spain eventually blew up with a military revolt by Spain’s elite troops based in Spanish Morocco, and their move to the mainland aided by Hitler (HTT Nº 311 “Franco ought to erect a monument to the glory of the Junker 52. It is this aircraft that the Spanish revolution had to thank for its victory. It was a piece of luck that our aircraft were able to fly direct from Stuttgart to Spain.”) But even here most of the regular army supported the leftist as did the navy. The security services (Civil Guard and police) were evenly split and most manufacturing and population centers were controlled by the Republican left.

    It’s interesting that the same thing was happening in Weimar Germany about a decade earlier with a post WW1 leftist internationalist government attacking every feature of traditionalist German society.

    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever. The country was also being hit by Bolshevik inspired and Jewish led insurgencies (Rosa Luxemburg – Berlin 1919 “Spartacist Uprising”, Eugen Levine – Munich 1919 “German Soviet Revolutionary Dictatorship”).

    The Germans as a race just went crazy with the feeling of the time captured in Ernst Von Salomon’s 1930 book “The Outlaws”. https://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-Ernst-Von-Salomon/dp/1907166491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497773456&sr=8-1&keywords=salomon%2C+outlaws

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    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever.
     
    I agree that liberal/corporate/government/MSM elite may be able to ride it out, hoping the worst it can get is a soylent green type condition. In that movie the elite lived in their secured luxury towers, while the rest of us lived in squalor.

    But as they say history may rhyme, but never exactly repeats itself. Weimar German had a few things going for it that we presently do not:
    >>An educated population capable of great works of engineering, while we have a trained population in political correctness (with declining math/sci/literacy scores).
    >>They did not have a consumer culture of non savers living off personal debt.
    >>With the exception of the Versailles Treaty imposed debt, they did not have the self inflicted govt debt levels we have,
    >>they did not have a hostile, unproductive subset of human beings (afro americans) always looking to get increased free lunch benefits (with the parasites killing the host).
    >> they mostly possessed a national unity as opposed to a confusion of special interest groups
    >> they had manufacturing
    >> they had good work ethic

    I could go on, but I made the basic point. This nation has a great potential (I am not saying that this is definite however) of devolution, and becoming a failed state (at least regionally or in urban centers), with our special interest group grievance culture degenerating into a war of all against all (and its usually regional warlords who fill in the vacuum). The Traditionalist today are only a very small segment of todays population (even in church, I see more people guided by contemporary MSM culture than the Ten Commandments), so this will not be a two sided civil war.

    The decline will not happen instantly, it will take much longer for the rot to corrode our bigger economic house (as opposed to other smaller nations where economic conditions deteriorated much more quickly). Thus, this will be a long term trend line of economic decline (with some periodic shorter episodes of economic growth, but not enough to reverse the overall decline) that will probably take decades/generations more to manifest itself. But being the biggest economy we bailed out other smaller nations in economic trouble; however, there will be no other country capable of bailing us out (including China, who is following a very similar path to economic malaise as Japan did).
  152. @Miro23
    I agree that it's a constant attack from the left and mostly retreat for the traditional right.

    Part of the problem is that "radical" attacks have always been part of the leftist way, whereas the traditionalist right fights defense. They "defend" values by using the legal mechanisms of the state such as the courts and security services.

    The problem here is that the traditional "shields" of society have been captured by the left so "The Gates are Down".

    The US can still manage to hold a messy election and elect a traditionalist despite massive MSM and Establishment interference, but an isolated President has little chance, and is paralyzed by constant attacks, if in fact he hasn't already sold out.

    There are some parallels with Spain 1936. A shaky leftist government was taken over by leftist radicals animated by Bolshevism and out to eradicated every aspect of traditional society using the MSM, legal system and security services plus their own militias. All their thefts and violence either got government approval or the fearful legislators looked the other way.

    Spain eventually blew up with a military revolt by Spain's elite troops based in Spanish Morocco, and their move to the mainland aided by Hitler (HTT Nº 311 "Franco ought to erect a monument to the glory of the Junker 52. It is this aircraft that the Spanish revolution had to thank for its victory. It was a piece of luck that our aircraft were able to fly direct from Stuttgart to Spain.") But even here most of the regular army supported the leftist as did the navy. The security services (Civil Guard and police) were evenly split and most manufacturing and population centers were controlled by the Republican left.

    It's interesting that the same thing was happening in Weimar Germany about a decade earlier with a post WW1 leftist internationalist government attacking every feature of traditionalist German society.

    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever. The country was also being hit by Bolshevik inspired and Jewish led insurgencies (Rosa Luxemburg - Berlin 1919 "Spartacist Uprising", Eugen Levine - Munich 1919 "German Soviet Revolutionary Dictatorship").

    The Germans as a race just went crazy with the feeling of the time captured in Ernst Von Salomon's 1930 book "The Outlaws". https://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-Ernst-Von-Salomon/dp/1907166491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497773456&sr=8-1&keywords=salomon%2C+outlaws

    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever.

    I agree that liberal/corporate/government/MSM elite may be able to ride it out, hoping the worst it can get is a soylent green type condition. In that movie the elite lived in their secured luxury towers, while the rest of us lived in squalor.

    But as they say history may rhyme, but never exactly repeats itself. Weimar German had a few things going for it that we presently do not:
    >>An educated population capable of great works of engineering, while we have a trained population in political correctness (with declining math/sci/literacy scores).
    >>They did not have a consumer culture of non savers living off personal debt.
    >>With the exception of the Versailles Treaty imposed debt, they did not have the self inflicted govt debt levels we have,
    >>they did not have a hostile, unproductive subset of human beings (afro americans) always looking to get increased free lunch benefits (with the parasites killing the host).
    >> they mostly possessed a national unity as opposed to a confusion of special interest groups
    >> they had manufacturing
    >> they had good work ethic

    I could go on, but I made the basic point. This nation has a great potential (I am not saying that this is definite however) of devolution, and becoming a failed state (at least regionally or in urban centers), with our special interest group grievance culture degenerating into a war of all against all (and its usually regional warlords who fill in the vacuum). The Traditionalist today are only a very small segment of todays population (even in church, I see more people guided by contemporary MSM culture than the Ten Commandments), so this will not be a two sided civil war.

    The decline will not happen instantly, it will take much longer for the rot to corrode our bigger economic house (as opposed to other smaller nations where economic conditions deteriorated much more quickly). Thus, this will be a long term trend line of economic decline (with some periodic shorter episodes of economic growth, but not enough to reverse the overall decline) that will probably take decades/generations more to manifest itself. But being the biggest economy we bailed out other smaller nations in economic trouble; however, there will be no other country capable of bailing us out (including China, who is following a very similar path to economic malaise as Japan did).

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    The Traditionalists today are only a very small segment of today's population (even in church, I see more people guided by contemporary MSM culture than the Ten Commandments), so this will not be a two sided civil war.
     
    I would take the divide as Red States / Blue States or better at county level. Red Counties and Blue counties with Red for Trump on the traditionalist side and Blue for Clinton being more PC, multicultural.

    I agree that how the US works things out will be unique to the US, but both Spain and Weimar had the same polarization in society. Both sides just threw insults without any common ground and in both cases it slid into armed militias with tit for tat murders. The US hasn't gone that far but it's a possible.

    I also agree that Germany was more ethnically cohesive, stopping it breaking up.

    Weimar did have unmanageable public debts and started printing to cover current government spending (same as the US today) and it was the rapid decline into worthlessness of the Deutsche Mark that ruined the middle class. Not to say that the US dollar will go the same way but it's a possibility and it would serve to wipe out the US middle class in the same way.
  153. @joef

    In this case a massive economic collapse (the hyperinflation of 1922-23) completely wiped out the middle class while leaving much of the financial and commercial leadership (mostly Jewish) in a stronger position than ever.
     
    I agree that liberal/corporate/government/MSM elite may be able to ride it out, hoping the worst it can get is a soylent green type condition. In that movie the elite lived in their secured luxury towers, while the rest of us lived in squalor.

    But as they say history may rhyme, but never exactly repeats itself. Weimar German had a few things going for it that we presently do not:
    >>An educated population capable of great works of engineering, while we have a trained population in political correctness (with declining math/sci/literacy scores).
    >>They did not have a consumer culture of non savers living off personal debt.
    >>With the exception of the Versailles Treaty imposed debt, they did not have the self inflicted govt debt levels we have,
    >>they did not have a hostile, unproductive subset of human beings (afro americans) always looking to get increased free lunch benefits (with the parasites killing the host).
    >> they mostly possessed a national unity as opposed to a confusion of special interest groups
    >> they had manufacturing
    >> they had good work ethic

    I could go on, but I made the basic point. This nation has a great potential (I am not saying that this is definite however) of devolution, and becoming a failed state (at least regionally or in urban centers), with our special interest group grievance culture degenerating into a war of all against all (and its usually regional warlords who fill in the vacuum). The Traditionalist today are only a very small segment of todays population (even in church, I see more people guided by contemporary MSM culture than the Ten Commandments), so this will not be a two sided civil war.

    The decline will not happen instantly, it will take much longer for the rot to corrode our bigger economic house (as opposed to other smaller nations where economic conditions deteriorated much more quickly). Thus, this will be a long term trend line of economic decline (with some periodic shorter episodes of economic growth, but not enough to reverse the overall decline) that will probably take decades/generations more to manifest itself. But being the biggest economy we bailed out other smaller nations in economic trouble; however, there will be no other country capable of bailing us out (including China, who is following a very similar path to economic malaise as Japan did).

    The Traditionalists today are only a very small segment of today’s population (even in church, I see more people guided by contemporary MSM culture than the Ten Commandments), so this will not be a two sided civil war.

    I would take the divide as Red States / Blue States or better at county level. Red Counties and Blue counties with Red for Trump on the traditionalist side and Blue for Clinton being more PC, multicultural.

    I agree that how the US works things out will be unique to the US, but both Spain and Weimar had the same polarization in society. Both sides just threw insults without any common ground and in both cases it slid into armed militias with tit for tat murders. The US hasn’t gone that far but it’s a possible.

    I also agree that Germany was more ethnically cohesive, stopping it breaking up.

    Weimar did have unmanageable public debts and started printing to cover current government spending (same as the US today) and it was the rapid decline into worthlessness of the Deutsche Mark that ruined the middle class. Not to say that the US dollar will go the same way but it’s a possibility and it would serve to wipe out the US middle class in the same way.

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  154. @Corvinus
    "You neurotically keep trying to change the subject to anything but the reality that media figures were targeted by both sides during the War for Southern Independence..."

    Excuse you, I have remained on the subject. I concurred from the beginning--there were reporters that were arrested by the Union and the Confederacy during the Civil War, either because they were considered spies or traitors.

    Again, when you stated “a great many”, what numbers are we talking about?

    "which gives the lie to your ahistorical claim that media figures would not be targeted once again during a reprise of any such conflict..."

    I never made that claim directly or indirectly. Again, I ask which groups of people are going to snipe the pundits? How do you define this "legitimacy"? Will their families also get the guillotine, including their small children? Will citizens and law enforcement stand idly by, jump into the fracas, or will they arrest and prosecute any and all individuals who attempt to liquidate members of the MSM?

    Simple questions for you to answer.

    "...never mind what happened not that many years ago to Alan Berg. Indeed, they would almost certainly be among the first casualties. Pretending otherwise won’t change a thing."

    Assassinated by a white nationalist group. So, how many similar cases since June 18, 1984?

    Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war, and you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants.

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    "Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war..."

    First, it's obvious that the media would be targets, but to what extent, by whom, and what would be the repercussions are other than obvious. Second, there COULD be civil war. Third, when you stated “a great many” of the media were targets, what numbers are we talking about during the Civil War?

    "you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants."

    It wasn't a rant, it was to point out the obvious. If there is a civil war, infants will be slaughtered by those on the right and on the left. Certainly you are not a fan of this result, right?
  155. @Kudzu Bob
    Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war, and you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants.

    “Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war…”

    First, it’s obvious that the media would be targets, but to what extent, by whom, and what would be the repercussions are other than obvious. Second, there COULD be civil war. Third, when you stated “a great many” of the media were targets, what numbers are we talking about during the Civil War?

    “you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants.”

    It wasn’t a rant, it was to point out the obvious. If there is a civil war, infants will be slaughtered by those on the right and on the left. Certainly you are not a fan of this result, right?

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    • Replies: @Kudzu Bob
    Judging from your hysterical tonee you're secretly worried that Team Blue's army of IQ 85 Africans and Latinx trannies might not be up to the job of simultaneously holding down the inner cities once the EBT cards don't work anymore and fighting off Team Red's radicalized White militias? Well, I can't really blame you on that score, but don't worry: When things go tits-up for you here you can always exercise your Right of Return and flee to Israel one step ahead of the lynch mobs that will be swarming the tarmac. But come to think of it, once the Promised Land's U.S. support is cut off then your tribe will be alone except for several hundred million screaming Arabs ready for some long-overdue payback. Between that and all those centuries of inbreeding it's no wonder that you're such a bundle of nerves, Corvinus.
  156. @Corvinus
    "Somebody points out the obvious, namely, that media figures inevitably would wear target signs on their backs in any future civil war..."

    First, it's obvious that the media would be targets, but to what extent, by whom, and what would be the repercussions are other than obvious. Second, there COULD be civil war. Third, when you stated “a great many” of the media were targets, what numbers are we talking about during the Civil War?

    "you completely lose your shit and start ranting about guillotining babies, like some hook-nosed commissar one generation removed from the shtetl screaming spittle-flecked invective at the peasants."

    It wasn't a rant, it was to point out the obvious. If there is a civil war, infants will be slaughtered by those on the right and on the left. Certainly you are not a fan of this result, right?

    Judging from your hysterical tonee you’re secretly worried that Team Blue’s army of IQ 85 Africans and Latinx trannies might not be up to the job of simultaneously holding down the inner cities once the EBT cards don’t work anymore and fighting off Team Red’s radicalized White militias? Well, I can’t really blame you on that score, but don’t worry: When things go tits-up for you here you can always exercise your Right of Return and flee to Israel one step ahead of the lynch mobs that will be swarming the tarmac. But come to think of it, once the Promised Land’s U.S. support is cut off then your tribe will be alone except for several hundred million screaming Arabs ready for some long-overdue payback. Between that and all those centuries of inbreeding it’s no wonder that you’re such a bundle of nerves, Corvinus.

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    "Judging from your hysterical tonee you’re secretly worried that Team Blue’s army of IQ 85 Africans and Latinx trannies might not be up to the job of simultaneously holding down the inner cities once the EBT cards don’t work anymore and fighting off Team Red’s radicalized White militias?"

    It is official, you have completely gone off the rails. You are projecting your own insecurities. You also forget that is one important group who also receive gimme dats...low-class whites. See, it's not about race, but social class. Furthermore, who consists of these "white militias"? How did they spring up? Who is leading them? Will YOU be joining their cause?

    "When things go tits-up for you here you can always exercise your Right of Return and flee to Israel one step ahead of the lynch mobs that will be swarming the tarmac."

    I'm not Jewish. I am of Dutch, Polish, and German ancestry.

    "But come to think of it, once the Promised Land’s U.S. support is cut off then your tribe will be alone except for several hundred million screaming Arabs ready for some long-overdue payback."

    You have a knack for fiction writing. Contact Castalia House.
  157. @Kudzu Bob
    Judging from your hysterical tonee you're secretly worried that Team Blue's army of IQ 85 Africans and Latinx trannies might not be up to the job of simultaneously holding down the inner cities once the EBT cards don't work anymore and fighting off Team Red's radicalized White militias? Well, I can't really blame you on that score, but don't worry: When things go tits-up for you here you can always exercise your Right of Return and flee to Israel one step ahead of the lynch mobs that will be swarming the tarmac. But come to think of it, once the Promised Land's U.S. support is cut off then your tribe will be alone except for several hundred million screaming Arabs ready for some long-overdue payback. Between that and all those centuries of inbreeding it's no wonder that you're such a bundle of nerves, Corvinus.

    “Judging from your hysterical tonee you’re secretly worried that Team Blue’s army of IQ 85 Africans and Latinx trannies might not be up to the job of simultaneously holding down the inner cities once the EBT cards don’t work anymore and fighting off Team Red’s radicalized White militias?”

    It is official, you have completely gone off the rails. You are projecting your own insecurities. You also forget that is one important group who also receive gimme dats…low-class whites. See, it’s not about race, but social class. Furthermore, who consists of these “white militias”? How did they spring up? Who is leading them? Will YOU be joining their cause?

    “When things go tits-up for you here you can always exercise your Right of Return and flee to Israel one step ahead of the lynch mobs that will be swarming the tarmac.”

    I’m not Jewish. I am of Dutch, Polish, and German ancestry.

    “But come to think of it, once the Promised Land’s U.S. support is cut off then your tribe will be alone except for several hundred million screaming Arabs ready for some long-overdue payback.”

    You have a knack for fiction writing. Contact Castalia House.

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