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Monday, MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” hosted a spirited discussion with Donald Trump on whether he was right in asserting that Muslims in New Jersey celebrated as the towers came down on 9/11.

About Muslim celebrations in Berlin, however, there appears to be no doubt. In my chapter “Eurabia,” in “State of Emergency: The Third World Invasion and Conquest of America,” [2006] is this quote from The New York Times Magazine, exactly 10 years ago.

“Parallel to the declarations of ‘unconditional solidarity’ with Americans by the German majority, rallies of another sort were taking place in Neukolln and Kreuzberg. Bottle rockets were set off from building courtyards, a poor man’s fireworks, sporadic, sparse and joyful; two rockets here, three rockets there. Still, altogether, hundreds of rockets were shooting skyward in celebration of the attack, as most Berliners were searching for words to express their horror.”
Neukolln and Kreuzberg are neighborhoods of “gastarbeiters,” Muslim Turkish workers who came to Germany in the millions to work in menial jobs beginning around 1960.

While the flap over what Trump saw persists, a more serious question has arisen: Is Turkish strongman President Recep Erdogan trying to draw the United States in on his side in the war in Syria, and into a confrontation with Vladimir Putin’s Russia?

A little history is in order. Not until 1952 did Turkey join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, all but two of whose original 12 members were on the Atlantic or North Sea.

Yet bringing in Turkey was a ten-strike, putting NATO on the Dardanelles and Bosporus and on the southern coast of the Black Sea, right up to the border of Stalin’s Soviet Union.

But the world that made Turkey such a strategic asset has vanished. Armenia and Georgia are no longer Soviet republics but free nations. The Soviet Empire, Warsaw Pact, and Soviet Union no longer exist, and Balkan nations as well as the Baltic States are members of the EU and NATO.

Turkey is no longer the secular nation-state of Kemal Ataturk, but increasingly hearkens to the Islamic Awakening. In Syria’s civil war, her behavior has not been what one might expect of an ally.

The Turks left the door open for jihadists to join ISIS. They are accused by two Turkish journalists, now facing life in prison, of shipping arms to ISIS. The Turks are charged with permitting ISIS to move oil from the Islamic State into and across Turkey. Russia, which joined the U.S. in bombing the tanker trucks that move the oil, charges Erdogan’s son with being involved in the black market trade with the caliphate.

Instead of battling ISIS, Erdogan is fighting Kurds in Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan and is threatening to attack Syria’s Kurds if they cross to the west bank of the Euphrates.

Ankara is also becoming dictatorial and repressive.

Erdogan has dismal relations with Egypt and Israel and appears hell-bent on bringing down Bashar Assad in Syria. Yet, Assad’s army remains the sole force standing between ISIS and Damascus.

Erdogan’s Turkey has its own separate national agenda. While understandable, what is of concern is that Erdogan could escalate his clash with Assad’s regime into a clash with Putin’s Russia, which is backing the Syrian regime — and drag us into his war.

And the longer this war goes on, the greater the likelihood of something like this happening.

ORDER IT NOW

For the operative premise of NATO is that an attack against one is an attack against all. What do we do should Erdogan provoke a Russian attack on his aircraft, and then invoke Article V and call on all NATO nations to come to Turkey’s defense against Putin’s Russia in Assad’s Syria?

Turkey’s shoot-down of the Russian Sukhoi Su-24 makes this more than a hypothetical question.

While the Russians have indicated they are not going to make this a casus belli, Putin charges that the U.S. was given advance notice of the flight plan of the Russian plane.

Were we? Did we authorize, know about, or suspect Erdogan was planning to shoot that Russian plane down? This is no small matter. And Americans have a right to know.

Then there is the geostrategic question.

The world of 2015 is nothing like Truman’s world of 1952 or Reagan’s world of 1982. The adversary we confronted then, the Soviet Empire and Soviet Union, has not existed for a quarter century.

Why then does NATO, created to defend Western Europe against that adversary, still exist?

Why are we still committed to fight Russia not only to defend Germany, but Estonia and Erdogan’s Turkey, and if the neocons get their way, to be committed in perpetuity to fight Russia for Georgia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Moldova, Ukraine, Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk?

If the history of the 20th century teaches anything, it is that war guarantees all too often lead to war.

But in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of the new book “The Greatest Comeback: How Richard Nixon Rose From Defeat to Create the New Majority.”

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  1. GIuseppe says:

    Of course the US gave Erdogan the go-ahead to attack the Russian bomber. The alternative, that the US wouldn’t demand absolute control over all coalition military actions in the Iraqi-Syrian theater, is absurd.

    And between Putin and Erdogan, the real revanchist is the Sultan, who dreams of restoring the Ottoman Empire.

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  2. Rehmat says:

    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.

    “But in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?”

    Let me paraphrase the above statement based on Buchanan’s an earlier quote.

    “But in this war against “American interests in the Middle East,” who is reall ally: Netanyahu, who has been turning the region against the US by its regional wars and threats, or Assad who has been trying to stop Netanyahu?”

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer and pro-White politician, wrote a post on his blog, entitled ‘Intervene? Or End Syrian War?, in which he said that Jewish Lobby which is crying for American military intervention (no fly zone or military boots) in Syria on the so-called “moral obligation” – is not good for the US interests in the region. He also said that since Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are calling for American intervention in Syria – shouldn’t they be sending their armies as part of their “moral obligations” to invade Syria.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/03/14/pat-buchanan-no-war-on-syria-for-israel/

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    Can you elaborate on your comment? I cannot follow the point you are trying to make.
    , @Realist
    "The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball."

    Or any sport or entertainment for that matter. Anything to keep the mass' opiated.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer…
     
    A man who attends a Tridentine Mass celebrated in Latin is now a "fundamentalist"?

    Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence!

    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.
     
    Nobody under fifty remembers real baseball, before bogus "divisions" and "playoffs" (which are never called that, for legal reasons), or the adult tee-ball known as "the DH".

    Beer, though, is better than it's ever been, so what's to remember?
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  3. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says: • Website

    But Jews have the power to do wrong and call it right.

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  4. Log onto this article: BOMBSHELL: Ambush of Russian Bomber Was Guided by US Reconnaissance.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bombshell-turkish-attack-russian-su-24-was-guided-us-and-saudis-reconnassaince-aircraft

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    fairly interesting, does the sidewinder require radar illumination though? it is a heatseeking missile. the whole thing does look like a setup regardless, and it strains credulity to suppose that they had such short ranged weapons on the spot where the Russians crossed into Turkish Airspace.

    there is also the point of the rebels on the ground having TOWs ready to attack landed helicopters.
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  5. “Russia, which joined the U.S. in bombing the tanker trucks that move the oil,…”

    I’m surprised that the US can find time for this sort of thing, it seems that the main focus has been on bombing buildings that USIS has recently evacuated (by sheer coincidence, of course).

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  6. AnAnon says:
    @Minnesota Mary
    Log onto this article: BOMBSHELL: Ambush of Russian Bomber Was Guided by US Reconnaissance.

    http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/bombshell-turkish-attack-russian-su-24-was-guided-us-and-saudis-reconnassaince-aircraft

    fairly interesting, does the sidewinder require radar illumination though? it is a heatseeking missile. the whole thing does look like a setup regardless, and it strains credulity to suppose that they had such short ranged weapons on the spot where the Russians crossed into Turkish Airspace.

    there is also the point of the rebels on the ground having TOWs ready to attack landed helicopters.

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  7. HBM says:

    It doesn’t matter if Trump was right or not. Being on the side of Right and Truth is irrelevant when the media is owned and operated by Marxist Jews and their lackeys who want to destroy what’s left of White America, and who will say and do anything to promote narratives that help them achieve it. They have no interest in truth.

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  8. Hrw-500 says:

    Slightly off-topic, I spotted that article from the National Review who did the headline of Drudge Report.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427839/tulsi-gabbard-obama-risks-nuclear-war-russia and Michael Snyder posted this blog post. http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/world-war-iii-draws-closer-as-russia-accuses-turkey-of-being-secret-allies-with-isis

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    Gabbard is the only person in the Congress with a decent intelligence.
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  9. iSteveFan says:
    @Rehmat
    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.

    "But in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?"

    Let me paraphrase the above statement based on Buchanan's an earlier quote.

    "But in this war against "American interests in the Middle East," who is reall ally: Netanyahu, who has been turning the region against the US by its regional wars and threats, or Assad who has been trying to stop Netanyahu?"

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer and pro-White politician, wrote a post on his blog, entitled ‘Intervene? Or End Syrian War?, in which he said that Jewish Lobby which is crying for American military intervention (no fly zone or military boots) in Syria on the so-called “moral obligation” – is not good for the US interests in the region. He also said that since Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are calling for American intervention in Syria – shouldn’t they be sending their armies as part of their “moral obligations” to invade Syria.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/03/14/pat-buchanan-no-war-on-syria-for-israel/

    Can you elaborate on your comment? I cannot follow the point you are trying to make.

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  10. Realist says:
    @Rehmat
    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.

    "But in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?"

    Let me paraphrase the above statement based on Buchanan's an earlier quote.

    "But in this war against "American interests in the Middle East," who is reall ally: Netanyahu, who has been turning the region against the US by its regional wars and threats, or Assad who has been trying to stop Netanyahu?"

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer and pro-White politician, wrote a post on his blog, entitled ‘Intervene? Or End Syrian War?, in which he said that Jewish Lobby which is crying for American military intervention (no fly zone or military boots) in Syria on the so-called “moral obligation” – is not good for the US interests in the region. He also said that since Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are calling for American intervention in Syria – shouldn’t they be sending their armies as part of their “moral obligations” to invade Syria.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/03/14/pat-buchanan-no-war-on-syria-for-israel/

    “The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.”

    Or any sport or entertainment for that matter. Anything to keep the mass’ opiated.

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  11. Realist says:
    @Hrw-500
    Slightly off-topic, I spotted that article from the National Review who did the headline of Drudge Report.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427839/tulsi-gabbard-obama-risks-nuclear-war-russia and Michael Snyder posted this blog post. http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/world-war-iii-draws-closer-as-russia-accuses-turkey-of-being-secret-allies-with-isis

    Gabbard is the only person in the Congress with a decent intelligence.

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  12. tbraton says:

    “Russia, which joined the U.S. in bombing the tanker trucks that move the oil, ”

    I believe you have it backwards, Pat. It was the U.S. which started bombing those oil tankers only after the Russians started bombing them. Thus, the U.S. joined Russia in bombing the tanker trucks nearly a year and a half after Obama declared war on ISIS. The reasons given by the U.S. for not bombing earlier, that the drivers were innocent civilians not connected to ISIS or they were afraid of “environmental damage” from the spilled oil, were readily discarded as the silly excuses they were as soon as the Russians started bombing to cut off ISIS’s main source of revenue. So much for the pledge to “degrade, destroy and defeat” ISIS, which, of course, was being conducted on a leisurely time schedule of three years, about as long as it took us to win WWII. Who would have thought that ISIS is as powerful as Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan combined?

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  13. Donna says:

    NATO is squeezing Russia more and more with its provocations in Ukraine and its acceptance of Montenegro into its ranks. This is deliberate provocation. What do the neocons think they’re doing??!! Regime change is not a foreign policy — it’s a crime!

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  14. Why then does NATO, created to defend Western Europe against that adversary, still exist?

    Read John J. Mearsheimer.

    NATO is a tool for global hegemony. It serves many purposes. Controlling European nationalism is one of them. Cornering Russia is another.

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  15. Bliss says:

    in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?

    Of course Putin is on the right side (the secular side) in Syria while American allies Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are in the wrong (islamist jihadi) side. Obama has been backed into a corner by Putin’s intervention and the inevitable escalations resulting from it. The Arab Spring he instigated has resulted in violent chaos, islamist terrorism and oppression, millions of refugees etc.

    And today, Trump again showed that he is on the same page as Putin:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/12/02/trump_isis_is_our_1_threat_–_we_cant_be_fighting_everybody_at_the_same_time.html

    My policy has always been the same. We’re fighting ISIS and Assad is fighting ISIS, but we’re backing rebels to fight Assad. You can’t fight everybody, you have to pick who you want to fight…….ISIS is our number one threat…I would bomb the hell out of them — I like to do one thing at a time. I would knock the hell out of ISIS.

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  16. @Rehmat
    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.

    "But in this war against “radical Islamic terrorism,” who is the real ally: Erdogan, who has been aiding and abetting Islamic jihadists in Syria, or Putin, who has been bombing them?"

    Let me paraphrase the above statement based on Buchanan's an earlier quote.

    "But in this war against "American interests in the Middle East," who is reall ally: Netanyahu, who has been turning the region against the US by its regional wars and threats, or Assad who has been trying to stop Netanyahu?"

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer and pro-White politician, wrote a post on his blog, entitled ‘Intervene? Or End Syrian War?, in which he said that Jewish Lobby which is crying for American military intervention (no fly zone or military boots) in Syria on the so-called “moral obligation” – is not good for the US interests in the region. He also said that since Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are calling for American intervention in Syria – shouldn’t they be sending their armies as part of their “moral obligations” to invade Syria.

    http://rehmat1.com/2014/03/14/pat-buchanan-no-war-on-syria-for-israel/

    On February 28, 2014, Patrick J. Buchanan, a fundamentalist Christian writer…

    A man who attends a Tridentine Mass celebrated in Latin is now a “fundamentalist”?

    Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence!

    The American leaders have proved again and again that Americans have a very short memory other than beer and baseball.

    Nobody under fifty remembers real baseball, before bogus “divisions” and “playoffs” (which are never called that, for legal reasons), or the adult tee-ball known as “the DH”.

    Beer, though, is better than it’s ever been, so what’s to remember?

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