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Sunday, a Navy F-18 Hornet shot down a Syrian air force jet, an act of war against a nation with which Congress has never declared or authorized a war.

Washington says the Syrian plane was bombing U.S.-backed rebels. Damascus says its plane was attacking ISIS.

Vladimir Putin’s defense ministry was direct and blunt:

“Repeated combat actions by U.S. aviation under the cover of counterterrorism against lawful armed forces of a country that is a member of the U.N. are a massive violation of international law and de facto a military aggression against the Syrian Arab Republic.”

An ABC report appears to back up Moscow’s claims:

“Over the last four weeks, the U.S. has conducted three air strikes on pro-regime forces backed by Iran that have moved into a deconfliction zone around the town of Tanf in southwestern Syria, where there is a coalition training base for local forces fighting ISIS.”

Russia has now declared an end to cooperation to prevent air clashes over Syria and asserted an intent to track and target aerial intruders in its area of operations west of the Euphrates.

Such targets would be U.S. planes and surveillance drones.

If Moscow is not bluffing, we could be headed for U.S.-Russian collision in Syria.

Sunday’s shoot-down of a hostile aircraft was the first by U.S. planes in this conflict. It follows President Trump’s launch of scores of cruise missiles at a Syrian airfield in April. The U.S. said the airfield was the base of Syrian planes that used chemical weapons on civilians.

We are getting ever deeper into this six-year sectarian and civil war. And what we may be witnessing now are the opening shots of its next phase — the battle for control of the territory and population liberated by the fall of Raqqa and the death of the ISIS “caliphate.”

The army of President Bashar Assad seeks to recapture as much lost territory as possible and they have the backing of Russia, Iranian troops, Shiite militia from Iraq and Afghanistan, and Hezbollah.

Assad’s and his allied forces opposing ISIS are now colliding with the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces opposing ISIS, which consist of Arab rebels and the Syrian Kurds of the PYD.

But if America has decided to use its air power to shoot down Syrian planes attacking rebels we support, this could lead to a confrontation with Russia and a broader, more dangerous, and deadly war for the United States.

How would we win such a war, without massive intervention?

Is this where we are headed? Is this where we want to go?

For, again, Congress has never authorized such a war, and there seems to be no vital U.S. interest involved in who controls Raqqa and neighboring lands, as long as ISIS is expelled. During the campaign, Trump even spoke of U.S.-Russian cooperation to kill ISIS.

While in Saudi Arabia, however, he seemed to sign on to what is being hyped as an “Arab NATO,” where the U.S. accepts Riyadh as the principal ally and leader of the Gulf Arabs in the regional struggle for hegemony with Shiite Iran.

ORDER IT NOW

Following that Trump trip, the Saudis — backed by Egypt, the UAE and Bahrain — sealed their border with Qatar, which maintains ties to Iran. And though Qatar is also host to the largest U.S. air base in the region, al-Udeid, Trump gave the impression its isolation was his idea.

President Trump and his country seem to be at a decision point.

If, after the fall of ISIS in Raqqa, we are going to use U.S. power and leverage to solidify the position of Syrian rebels and Kurds, at the expense of Damascus, we could find ourselves in a collision with Syria, Russia, Hezbollah, Iran and even Turkey.

For Turkish President Erdogan looks on our Kurdish allies in Syria as Kurdish allies of the terrorist PKK inside his own country.

During the campaign, candidate Trump won support by pledging to work with Russia to defeat our common enemy. But if, after ISIS is gone from Syria, we decide it is in our interests to confront Assad, we are going to find ourselves in a regional confrontation.

In Iraq, the U.S. and Iran have a common foe, ISIS, and a common ally, the government in Baghdad. In Syria, we have a common foe, ISIS. But our allies are opposed by Assad, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.

The question before us: After Raqqa and Mosul fall and the caliphate disappears, who inherits the ISIS estate?

The U.S. needs now to delineate the lines of advance for Syria’s Kurds, and to talk to the Russians, Syrians and Iranians.

We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. 5371 says:

    Washington was the one bluffing.

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  2. We would all lose a war with Russia even if we “won” at the price of a nuclear exchange. As the article indicates, it is illegal and not authorized by congress, though I am afraid the Israeli influenced congress would authorize such lunacy if it were demanded. Frankly we seem to swirling down a fatal drain with no way to stop this process. The rule of law and republican government appear to be a thing of the past in the yankee imperium.

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    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    Um, no

    We would wipe the floor with Russia

    Russia is full of pale pasty white boys and the rest of the world hates them
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  3. Renoman says:

    America is so embarrassing right now it’s hard to know what to say.

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    Speaking of embarrassing...
    https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/gallery/2017/jun/20/milan-ease-seven-key-collections-from-the-springsummer-2018-shows
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  4. Johann says:

    Let Hilary Clinton, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Joe Biden and Hussein Obama send their on children and grandchildren into the meat grinder of the perpetual war machine set up by the Soros “Deep State”. The rest of us should pray for a Russian victory over the American Empire of the anti christ.

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    You forgot Trump's children. Trump is also further involving us in Middle East wars.
    , @annamaria
    "Let Hilary Clinton, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Joe Biden and Hussein Obama send their own children and grandchildren into the meat grinder of the perpetual war..." Agree. Though the flames of a hot war that these opportunistic psychopaths have been working on relentlessly would consume their children and grandchildren anyway.
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  5. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=712399298940447&id=100005111508172

    Ted R. Weiland:
    Rule of Law! PROVIDED law is identified correctly.

    “…Isaiah 33:22 and James 4:12 declare that Yahweh is the exclusive legislator. There are no others, period! Anyone who claims the title of legislator (particularly when his “laws”—whether commandments, statutes, or judgments—are inconsonant with Yahweh’s) is a usurper and is perpetuating the sin begun by Adam and Eve. The same is true for any one of us who would modify Yahweh’s triune law.

    “Any legislation antithetical to Yahweh’s turns evil to good and good to evil (Isaiah 5:20). When man rejects Yahweh’s standard of morality, it is inevitable he will make legal what Yahweh has made unlawful (e.g., infanticide and sodomy) and make illegal what Yahweh has made lawful (e.g., monotheistic Christianity outside the four walls of church buildings).

    “Yahweh is the only lawgiver because as Creator He’s the only one with the authority to determine what is good and evil. His morals as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments determine what is right and left. Anything left of His right(eousness) [including the Constitution and its corollary "laws"] is left, liberal, and ungodly….”

    For more, see blog article “Right, Left, and Center: Who Gets to Decide?” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/right-left-and-center-who-gets-to-decide/.

    Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ConstitutionSurvey.html and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

    “…The power to declare war is a serious responsibility. Why were the framers so vague in defining the parameters of war and the conditions under which it could be declared? Section 8, Clause 11 is the only place of significance where warfare is mentioned in the Constitution. Little wonder this power has been abused. Luther Martin [one of Maryland's delegates to the Constitutional Convention] protested:

    ‘…the congress have also a power given them to raise and support armies, without any limitation as to numbers, and without any restriction in time of peace. Thus, sir, this plan of government, instead of guarding against a standing army, that engine of arbitrary power, which has so often and so successfully been used for the subversion of freedom, has in its formation given it an express and constitutional sanction….’40

    “John Quincy Adams predicted the consequences of America’s international military entanglements:
    ‘America … has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when the conflict has been for principles to which she clings…. Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.… She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors, and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force; the frontlet on her brow would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished luster, the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit.’41

    Because the framers provided no Biblical parameters, unbiblical warfare has been the rule ever since. Following is a list of the countries bombed by the United States since World War II….

    “From 1945 to the present, the United States has bombed nineteen different countries under the guise of defending America’s sovereignty and promoting democracy. But America is none the better for it, and not one of these countries has become a legitimate democracy – not that this would be anything to celebrate. Something is amiss. Wars fought for political gain or financial profit can only be classified as ungodly acts of aggression….

    “Without the constitutional [unbiblical] power to borrow, these and all subsequent ungodly wars could have perhaps been averted. …”

    For more, see online Chapter 4 “Article 1: Legislative Usurpation” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt4.html.

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    LAUGH OUT LOUD

    This isn't a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?

    , @Rusty Brown
    Thank you for demonstrating that those old books, written 2 thousand years ago for a time which no longer exists and a place that has nothing to do with Western civilization, are totally irrelevant to our democratically-created laws and values.
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  6. MEexpert says:

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.

    The Israeli cancer, in the body of the United States, has spread so much that there are only two outcomes;

    1. The patient will eventually become so corrupt that it will die a moral death, or

    2. The cancer will be surgically removed. That means all ties to the cancerous state of Israel must be severed.

    We are fast approaching the first one and if we want to avoid this outcome, we the people, must rise and demand our gutless representatives to think of America first.

    Our leaders need to take care of the Americans first. We must stop our expansionist policies in the world. They need to ask questions of the Pentagon, the CIA, and the State Department, such as; why are we in Africa? what national interests do we have in that far away land. (49 of the 63 countries have American forces present). Why are we in the Middle East? Before the creation of the Zionist state of Israel, Arabs, Jews, and Christians lived in harmony. Since its creation, the British, the French, and now the United States has caused mayhem in those countries. Now, Muslims are fighting Muslims while Israel enjoys the freedom every individual must have.

    The Pentagon and the weapons industry have gone amok. The industry makes new weapons and the Pentagon is eager to try them out at the expense of innocent people. The Golden Rule that, “do unto others, what you want them do unto you” has been turned upside down. Now we “do unto others (Muslims) what we don’t want them do unto us.”

    If we don’t come to our senses, there is going to be a big payback someday. Mark my words.

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    "Our leaders need to take care of the Americans first."
    Not possible. The leaders want their fat paychecks secured by MIC/Israel-firsters.
    , @ThereisaGod
    Have to agree with that.
    US is defending Israel's interests in Syria by blocking the possibility of gas pipelines through Syria that would compete with the Israel/Cyprus gas project under development.
    Also, as we know, israel wants ALL its neighbours be live in a continuous state of destabilisation. The USA is occupied territory.
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  7. virgile says:

    The usual questions the USA never has an answer : What comes after a regime change?
    In Iraq and Libya … chaos. In Syria the US failed the regime change, yet it thinks it can have a piece of the cake.
    ISIS and the USA are the illegal invaders of Syria. They should be kicked out and when we witness the brutal stupidity of the Trump administration, we can be sure that both will be thrown out with disgust.

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  8. Realist says:

    “We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.”

    We have no friends in the Middle East only enemies and leeches.

    Their wars should never be our wars.

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    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.
     
    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) - which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.
    , @Sowhat

    We have no friends in the Middle East only enemies and leeches
     
    Correct and, yet, still no significant protests against the MIIC.
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  9. Realist says:
    @Johann
    Let Hilary Clinton, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Joe Biden and Hussein Obama send their on children and grandchildren into the meat grinder of the perpetual war machine set up by the Soros "Deep State". The rest of us should pray for a Russian victory over the American Empire of the anti christ.

    You forgot Trump’s children. Trump is also further involving us in Middle East wars.

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    And also include Trump's son-in-law.

    We'll see if Edgar Cayce will be right by predicting then Russia would save us from WWIII http://www.rense.com/general82/hope.htm
    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=133567
    (and on a off-topic sidenote, let's compare this predictions with the ones from Nostradamus, Baba Vanga and Siener Van Rensberg).
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  10. My reading of this situation is that Putin wants to avoid a direct confrontation with the US. What we should be worried about is a proxy war between US and Iran in the Middle East. Russia will assist Iran.

    Iran via proxies is trying to take control Syria-Iraq border to establish a land bridge from Lebanon to Iran. US is trying to stop it with airstrikes. Iranians appear committed however, and American attacks did not deter them thus far. If US decides to push this confrontation futher, Iranians have the means to retaliate against US forces in Syria and Iraq.

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    When someone wants it that bad it is not easy to avoid.
    , @Parfois
    Why does Iran need such corridor? Where is the source of such Iranian plan? If you bothered to look at the map, you might be able to see that there is no potential corridor from "controlling the Syria-Iraq border", which is 600 km and does not lead to Lebanon at all unless you mean the "all roads lead to Rome" adage. If there is such a potential corridor, it is between Iraq and Turkey.
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  11. Hrw-500 says:
    @Realist
    You forgot Trump's children. Trump is also further involving us in Middle East wars.

    And also include Trump’s son-in-law.

    We’ll see if Edgar Cayce will be right by predicting then Russia would save us from WWIII http://www.rense.com/general82/hope.htm

    http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=133567

    (and on a off-topic sidenote, let’s compare this predictions with the ones from Nostradamus, Baba Vanga and Siener Van Rensberg).

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  12. Cyrano says:

    Fighting terrorism is not a problem. Anybody can do it. Even Saudi Arabia has wholeheartedly joined the fight against terrorism. And I believe in their sincerity. The trick is to separate the good terrorists from the bad terrorists. There is only one country that can do that. US.

    Thanks to their sophisticated military and intelligence apparatus they have the uncanny ability to tell the good from the bad terrorists. Of course they do. Like any proud parent they watched both of these groups grow from their infancy into adulthood. One of them was the apple of the US eye.

    Always the good sons, they did as they were told – overthrowing undesirable governments, destabilizing unfriendly countries – in a word growing up into respected members of the terrorist community. The other group didn’t do as well. They grew up to be the troubled siblings, going around, aimlessly blowing themselves up, without any real benefit for the US.

    That’s clearly not the way to spend a (short lived) terrorist career. Thankfully, US is now in Syria and they are working on separating these two groups. Why should the bad terrorists be allowed to smear the reputation of the good terrorists.

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  13. @Renoman
    America is so embarrassing right now it's hard to know what to say.
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    Don't be shy. I thought you looked very cute - prudently photoshopped of course these days. It reminded me of the time you got your first flares.
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  14. KenH says:

    It should be pretty obvious to all that while the U.S. is making a half hearted attempt to militarily weaken ISIS, the real plan is to strengthen the “moderate” rebels and the Kurds to eventually use them to occupy most of the country and isolate and depose Assad. The shoot down of the Syrian fighter was designed to give the U.S. a cassus belli for wider war in the region.

    Israel expects and demands nothing less and Trump is proving to be Israel’s eunuch if he wasn’t already heavily compromised before entering office despite the campaign bluster about a humble foreign policy and America first.

    I expect more lurid atrocity stories about the Assad regime, more claims that he doesn’t want to defeat ISIS and more comparisons to Hitler to fire up flyover country for regime change. Russia needs to stand firm and while they have a great leader like Putin since Israel knows that a Putin led Russia will become a major road block to their ambitions of a greater Israel and the installation of Western and Israeli puppets as leaders of surrounding Arab nations.

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  15. Rurik says: • Website

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.

    Pat always reverts to his kneejerk anti-Semitism

    Pat, why do we even exist if not to fight their wars for them?!

    is not our most glorious, very purpose for existing to die for ((them))?!

    I’m always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people

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    "I’m always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people"

    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.

    a supremacist Jew:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral

    "Truth is hate to those that hate the truth."

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    Israeli occupied territories
    https://codoh.com/media/files/cartoon24s.png

    , @jilles dykstra
    Of course one may see it as antisemitism to write about jewish power in, and over the USA.
    But even is this is antisemitism, does this power not exist ?
    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, ‘The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy’, New York 2007
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  16. mp says:

    The US and it’s neocon Jewish controllers are taunting Russia. They don’t care. They want Russia’s head, either dead or alive, but preferably dead, it looks like. How long Russia will put up with it is a big question.

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  17. Talha says:
    @Realist
    "We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars."

    We have no friends in the Middle East only enemies and leeches.

    Their wars should never be our wars.

    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.

    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) – which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.

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    Hey Talha,

    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I.
     
    WWI actually, when the deal was made vis-a-vis the Balfour Declaration, that guaranteed that the British would hand over Palestine to the Zionists if the Jews in the US used their newspapers and influence to drag America into the war on England's side.

    We've been fighting their wars for them ever since, with a few dalliances of the MIC's own in places like Southeast Asia or S. America.


    What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions
     
    the whole point was to get Saddam to attack Kuwait in order to act all outraged and demand that 'this will not stand!". And why? To destroy the military capability that the US had created in Iraq so long as it was being used on Iran. When the war between Iraq and Iran ended, Saddam's good buddy George H. W. Bush used his diplomat to tell Saddam that the US had 'no interest between inter-Arab quarrels, and that Saddam had a green light to attack Kuwait.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1xq2_4lHE

    Then came the 'outrage' over the 'baby incubators' and the rest is history.

    Peace

    , @Anon

    Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) – which we slapped on Iraq anyway.
     
    And accomplished nothing but making life miserable for a lot of people.

    handled locally
     
    By whom? The Saudis? Might have been fun to watch.
    , @Realist
    I agree, but it goes back to at least the Korean 'war'.
    , @bluedog
    He backed off because it was to tough for him and attacked a small island instead, for after all they needed a victory somewhere anywhere, after all it was getting downright depressing getting the shit kicked out of us everywhere we decided to go...
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  18. Was this U.S. shoot-down of a Syrian warplane authorized by President Trump, or was it yet another instance of the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State trying to drag President Trump into escalating the U.S. involvement in Syria and, by extension, into heating up the needless, wisely avoided U.S. vs. Russia scheme?

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    Auntie Analogue:

    Prof Stephen Cohen believes the shoot-down is another manifestation of the Deep State's escalating of US involvement in Syria. Cohen by nature is not a conspiracy monger so his beliefs are especially important.

    Those not familiar with Cohen should check him out as he makes a lot of sense and is a long time analyst of modern Russia.
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  19. Rurik says: • Website
    @Talha
    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.
     
    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) - which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.

    Hey Talha,

    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I.

    WWI actually, when the deal was made vis-a-vis the Balfour Declaration, that guaranteed that the British would hand over Palestine to the Zionists if the Jews in the US used their newspapers and influence to drag America into the war on England’s side.

    We’ve been fighting their wars for them ever since, with a few dalliances of the MIC’s own in places like Southeast Asia or S. America.

    What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions

    the whole point was to get Saddam to attack Kuwait in order to act all outraged and demand that ‘this will not stand!”. And why? To destroy the military capability that the US had created in Iraq so long as it was being used on Iran. When the war between Iraq and Iran ended, Saddam’s good buddy George H. W. Bush used his diplomat to tell Saddam that the US had ‘no interest between inter-Arab quarrels, and that Saddam had a green light to attack Kuwait.

    Then came the ‘outrage’ over the ‘baby incubators’ and the rest is history.

    Peace

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    Hey Rurik,

    For sure the US took over the "great game" in the ME from the Brits - along with using Wahhabi-Salfi extremists as proxies to develop facts-on-the-ground. This is why I was keen to be specific in mentioning "our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started ..." just because that's when I see the escalation point starting - especially with regards to a permanent garrison in multiple Gulf countries.

    I really, really miss seeing Ron Paul (may God grant him a long life) speak from that podium.

    Peace.
    , @Parfois
    Good reply to repose historical facts in the minds of those less acquainted with recent history. Indeed, Kuwait was a trap for Saddam and the opening to start the New World Order project to dismantle all non-vassal states, especially the ones opposed to Jewish domination of the ME.
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  20. Avery says:

    {We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.}

    We (meaning the American taxpayers) have, quote, ‘friends’ in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf?
    Is that a joke?

    Americans have no friends either in the Middle East or the Persian Gulf.
    We have either sycophants who do what they are told to do, or parasites who leech off of the American taxpayers, and enrich Globalist scum like Halliburton. And, NO, the State of Israel is no ‘friend’ of the American taxpayers either.

    After doing the bidding of these mythical ‘friends’, American families are left to deal with the deaths, mutilations, lobotomies-by-IED, crippled-for-life, etc, etc of their loved ones.
    And the death and destruction visited on wholly innocent countless of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen,……

    ‘Friends’? Give me a break: with ‘friends’ like these…….

    As Mr. Unz noted a long time ago, in a thread far, far away, there is a Neocon infestation in the body of America – slowly killing it.

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  21. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Talha
    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.
     
    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) - which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.

    Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) – which we slapped on Iraq anyway.

    And accomplished nothing but making life miserable for a lot of people.

    handled locally

    By whom? The Saudis? Might have been fun to watch.

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    Hola Senor,

    By whom?
     
    Don't know - my guess is what would have happened is this:
    1) Iraq would have backed off (joint Russian and US pressure would likely have accomplished this), leaving a pliant 'revolutionary' vassal government in Kuwait - which would have been probably no better or worse than the Kuwaiti monarchs. Remember, otherwise this would have made Iraq a pariah state due to international law - and they simply don't have the clout to ignore this without diplomatic cover from someone bigger at the UN. See what eventually happened with Sudan and its south, for instance.
    2) This would have scared the other Gulf countries into making some kind of a joint defense force in order to make sure they wouldn't be next.
    3) If the Saudis were feeling seriously threatened, they would invite a semi-permanent military force out of Pakistan to hold the line in the desert. Gulf monarchies often invite Pakistanis to crack heads or get other jobs done - remember Black September?:
    "Foundation linked to the Pakistani army has been providing Bahrain thousands of soldiers for its crackdown on protests."
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/07/2011725145048574888.html
    4) I doubt they would have tried to dislodge Iraq from Kuwait using military means (maybe using OPEC pressure) - but is that a big deal?

    All speculation of course - but, I'm sure it didn't need to get escalated to the Gulf War I level.

    Peace.
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  22. Realist says:
    @Talha
    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.
     
    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) - which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.

    I agree, but it goes back to at least the Korean ‘war’.

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    Hey Realist,

    I get your drift - I was just talking about the situation in the ME.

    Peace.
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  23. Talha says:
    @Rurik
    Hey Talha,

    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I.
     
    WWI actually, when the deal was made vis-a-vis the Balfour Declaration, that guaranteed that the British would hand over Palestine to the Zionists if the Jews in the US used their newspapers and influence to drag America into the war on England's side.

    We've been fighting their wars for them ever since, with a few dalliances of the MIC's own in places like Southeast Asia or S. America.


    What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions
     
    the whole point was to get Saddam to attack Kuwait in order to act all outraged and demand that 'this will not stand!". And why? To destroy the military capability that the US had created in Iraq so long as it was being used on Iran. When the war between Iraq and Iran ended, Saddam's good buddy George H. W. Bush used his diplomat to tell Saddam that the US had 'no interest between inter-Arab quarrels, and that Saddam had a green light to attack Kuwait.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1xq2_4lHE

    Then came the 'outrage' over the 'baby incubators' and the rest is history.

    Peace

    Hey Rurik,

    For sure the US took over the “great game” in the ME from the Brits – along with using Wahhabi-Salfi extremists as proxies to develop facts-on-the-ground. This is why I was keen to be specific in mentioning “our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started …” just because that’s when I see the escalation point starting – especially with regards to a permanent garrison in multiple Gulf countries.

    I really, really miss seeing Ron Paul (may God grant him a long life) speak from that podium.

    Peace.

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    The USA did not.
    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
    Alas impoverished GB lost the war that began in 1945 between British troops and the zionist army.
    Truman abruptly ended LendLease, as British said after the German 1945 capitulation: we won the war, but lost the peace.
    GB citizens for years after 1945 were worse off than during the war.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979
    , @Jake
    Yes, the US in the Middle east simply replaced the British Empire. By the height of the Victorian era, the vast majority of UK Elites were rather decidedly philo-Semitic. But not for the same Semites. One group was militantly pro-Jewish, and the other militantly pro-Arab/Moslem. The second group was usually pro-Wahhabi when maters came down to actual on the ground politics.

    What we have now is the WASP Elites dream from a century and a half ago: The English-speaking Empire allegedly in charge of an alliance that features both Jews and Wahhabi Arabs, an alliance wreaking chaos across the Middle East.

    By the way, many of you may think there is something to the NeoCon notion that what is wrong with Islam is that it has never had a 'reformation.' I think most NeoCons know they are lying, for they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan 'reformation' right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices.

    Modern English culture, WASP culture, cannot be separated from war against Christendom, war to to destroy and then replace Western Christian Civilization. It thus is natural that WASPs with world power would ally with both Jews and the most violently 'Protestant-like' Moslems and unleash waves of terror. That WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East, and clearly it would like to do the same in Russia.
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  24. Talha says:
    @Anon

    Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) – which we slapped on Iraq anyway.
     
    And accomplished nothing but making life miserable for a lot of people.

    handled locally
     
    By whom? The Saudis? Might have been fun to watch.

    Hola Senor,

    By whom?

    Don’t know – my guess is what would have happened is this:
    1) Iraq would have backed off (joint Russian and US pressure would likely have accomplished this), leaving a pliant ‘revolutionary’ vassal government in Kuwait – which would have been probably no better or worse than the Kuwaiti monarchs. Remember, otherwise this would have made Iraq a pariah state due to international law – and they simply don’t have the clout to ignore this without diplomatic cover from someone bigger at the UN. See what eventually happened with Sudan and its south, for instance.
    2) This would have scared the other Gulf countries into making some kind of a joint defense force in order to make sure they wouldn’t be next.
    3) If the Saudis were feeling seriously threatened, they would invite a semi-permanent military force out of Pakistan to hold the line in the desert. Gulf monarchies often invite Pakistanis to crack heads or get other jobs done – remember Black September?:
    “Foundation linked to the Pakistani army has been providing Bahrain thousands of soldiers for its crackdown on protests.”

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/07/2011725145048574888.html

    4) I doubt they would have tried to dislodge Iraq from Kuwait using military means (maybe using OPEC pressure) – but is that a big deal?

    All speculation of course – but, I’m sure it didn’t need to get escalated to the Gulf War I level.

    Peace.

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  25. Talha says:
    @Realist
    I agree, but it goes back to at least the Korean 'war'.

    Hey Realist,

    I get your drift – I was just talking about the situation in the ME.

    Peace.

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  26. Contraviews says: • Website

    If we want to preserve the world from total annihilation Russia, China, Iran, Turkey and even North Korea should go into an alliance and proclaim that an attack on one of them is regarded as an attack on all.

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    Fully agree with you. The Yankee regime uses NATO as a figleaf to cover its ambitions and crimes because there is no "Warsaw Treaty" counterpoint to limit its voracious greed. Basically it is free to roam the world at will because it is not answerable to international law, common decency or some other power. Besides, it is free to pick and choose its victims because the only country capable to say Nyet (as the Soviet Union often did) acquiesces instead of remembering the lessons of history, the most recent the Nazi aggression when the British and French signed the Munich Treaty with Hitler and avoided at all costs a defence alliance with Stalin, obviously hoping to steer the Chancellor to the East. Smacks of appeasement once again and all it does to encourage the aggressor to move on the next domino (Iran) under the supposed fear that a robust response to Yankee aggression will lead to WWIII. The bluff is working and one wonders why it does not work the other way, that is, why the Yankees don't fear WWIII?
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  27. Rurik says: • Website

    now it turns out France’s Macron is an anti-Semite too!

    https://www.rt.com/news/393518-france-macron-syria-policy/

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  28. Dan Hayes says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    Was this U.S. shoot-down of a Syrian warplane authorized by President Trump, or was it yet another instance of the Military Industrial Complex/Deep State trying to drag President Trump into escalating the U.S. involvement in Syria and, by extension, into heating up the needless, wisely avoided U.S. vs. Russia scheme?

    Auntie Analogue:

    Prof Stephen Cohen believes the shoot-down is another manifestation of the Deep State’s escalating of US involvement in Syria. Cohen by nature is not a conspiracy monger so his beliefs are especially important.

    Those not familiar with Cohen should check him out as he makes a lot of sense and is a long time analyst of modern Russia.

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    Trump has abdicated his authority over military affairs in the ME.
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  29. annamaria says:
    @Johann
    Let Hilary Clinton, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Joe Biden and Hussein Obama send their on children and grandchildren into the meat grinder of the perpetual war machine set up by the Soros "Deep State". The rest of us should pray for a Russian victory over the American Empire of the anti christ.

    “Let Hilary Clinton, John McCain, Paul Ryan, Joe Biden and Hussein Obama send their own children and grandchildren into the meat grinder of the perpetual war…” Agree. Though the flames of a hot war that these opportunistic psychopaths have been working on relentlessly would consume their children and grandchildren anyway.

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  30. annamaria says:
    @MEexpert

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.
     
    The Israeli cancer, in the body of the United States, has spread so much that there are only two outcomes;

    1. The patient will eventually become so corrupt that it will die a moral death, or

    2. The cancer will be surgically removed. That means all ties to the cancerous state of Israel must be severed.

    We are fast approaching the first one and if we want to avoid this outcome, we the people, must rise and demand our gutless representatives to think of America first.

    Our leaders need to take care of the Americans first. We must stop our expansionist policies in the world. They need to ask questions of the Pentagon, the CIA, and the State Department, such as; why are we in Africa? what national interests do we have in that far away land. (49 of the 63 countries have American forces present). Why are we in the Middle East? Before the creation of the Zionist state of Israel, Arabs, Jews, and Christians lived in harmony. Since its creation, the British, the French, and now the United States has caused mayhem in those countries. Now, Muslims are fighting Muslims while Israel enjoys the freedom every individual must have.

    The Pentagon and the weapons industry have gone amok. The industry makes new weapons and the Pentagon is eager to try them out at the expense of innocent people. The Golden Rule that, "do unto others, what you want them do unto you" has been turned upside down. Now we "do unto others (Muslims) what we don't want them do unto us."

    If we don't come to our senses, there is going to be a big payback someday. Mark my words.

    “Our leaders need to take care of the Americans first.”
    Not possible. The leaders want their fat paychecks secured by MIC/Israel-firsters.

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  31. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Grace & Steel Ep. 83 – Katie McHugh Interview

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  32. Wally says: • Website
    @Rurik

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.
     
    Pat always reverts to his kneejerk anti-Semitism

    Pat, why do we even exist if not to fight their wars for them?!

    is not our most glorious, very purpose for existing to die for ((them))?!

    I'm always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people

    “I’m always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people”

    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.

    a supremacist Jew:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral

    “Truth is hate to those that hate the truth.”

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room

    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    Israeli occupied territories

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    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.
     
    Wally, Wally, Wally..

    don't do sarcasm, eh?

    I've been posting here for a while now, and as far as zio-lies go.. how was it that guy from that movie put it.. 'my own proclivities are, uh, well-known and often-lamented'.

    but you can be forgiven if you've studiously avoided reading them, other's certainly have! ;)

    but now that you've tweaked me, let me ask you..

    don't you suppose at some point that harping on the same mantra endlessly day after day, hour after tiresome hour, that it will eventually become counterproductive?

    I mean I understand the advertising method of repetition and all that, but this isn't exactly a television audience for a sitcom or reality show. This is a place where thoughtful people congregate, and I'm willing to bet that just as I checked out your links the first time I saw them about a year or two ago, (and I was glad to see you/someone keeping up the good fight) that any subsequent mention of the Holocaust/hoax seemed to me to be something to discuss on threads that had something to do with that subject, *not* on . every . single . article/discussion.

    I suspect that it even does your otherwise laudable crusade harm to be so monomaniacal and singularly persistent. I'm willing to bet that most of us here have already developed our own interpretation of that event by now, and although we'd be interested if some new development came along that proved or disproved some long standing, widely held belief, that for the most part, you're either preaching to the choir, or are entirely ignored, because you offer nothing new.

    I have a suggestion for what it's worth. Use the comment section of Unz to treat us all to your insights and interpretations of events and articles. You're obviously an intelligent fellow, use that to tweak our curiosities and perhaps even create bumps in our consciousness's - so that we'll become intrigued with your perceptions, and then what will undoubtably follow is that people will click on the link to your website and perhaps go down that particular rabbit hole, or not. But by forcing the issue, I fear your efforts are perhaps a little off-putting.

    for what it's worth my friend

    Cheers

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  33. There of course already is a USA Russia confrontation in Syria.
    The Spanish Civil War was between the west, Hitler and Mussolini, but with support from GB and USA, against the USSR.
    The west won.
    As Putin states ‘nobody will survive a USA Russian atomic war’.
    And of course Putin cannot let Syria go, a real domino theory: Syria, Iran, Russia, China.
    So the USA, Deep State, is playing with atomic fire.
    Let us hope that Trump survives, and prevails.

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    "People, there is nothing left to hope for in the west. This could be it. The end-run.... We have for too long believed in the treachery of Washington, the false promises, the eternal lies for centuries drop-by-dripping-drop into our brains have drained our self-worth, our autonomy; and we have ‘democratically’ allowed that these Washington bandits and the criminal gang that directs them from behind, have stolen our nations sovereignty.
    We are doomed. The west is doomed. The west is in its final stage of committing unrelenting suicide by sheer greed and monstrous aggressions and an eternal flood of lies. We are cooked. For good, beyond the threshold of no-return."
    http://thesaker.is/are-we-in-the-final-phase/
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  34. @Rurik

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.
     
    Pat always reverts to his kneejerk anti-Semitism

    Pat, why do we even exist if not to fight their wars for them?!

    is not our most glorious, very purpose for existing to die for ((them))?!

    I'm always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people

    Of course one may see it as antisemitism to write about jewish power in, and over the USA.
    But even is this is antisemitism, does this power not exist ?
    John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, ‘The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy’, New York 2007

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  35. @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    For sure the US took over the "great game" in the ME from the Brits - along with using Wahhabi-Salfi extremists as proxies to develop facts-on-the-ground. This is why I was keen to be specific in mentioning "our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started ..." just because that's when I see the escalation point starting - especially with regards to a permanent garrison in multiple Gulf countries.

    I really, really miss seeing Ron Paul (may God grant him a long life) speak from that podium.

    Peace.

    The USA did not.
    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
    Alas impoverished GB lost the war that began in 1945 between British troops and the zionist army.
    Truman abruptly ended LendLease, as British said after the German 1945 capitulation: we won the war, but lost the peace.
    GB citizens for years after 1945 were worse off than during the war.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979

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    Hey jiles,

    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
     
    You are right about this jiles, which I think makes my point that the US took over the great game - which is why we see some divergence from the original British designs. Also remember how the US stopped the joint British/French fight against Egypt over the Suez.

    As usual, thanks for the references - the number of books you have read is truly inspiring.

    Peace.
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  36. Realist says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Auntie Analogue:

    Prof Stephen Cohen believes the shoot-down is another manifestation of the Deep State's escalating of US involvement in Syria. Cohen by nature is not a conspiracy monger so his beliefs are especially important.

    Those not familiar with Cohen should check him out as he makes a lot of sense and is a long time analyst of modern Russia.

    Trump has abdicated his authority over military affairs in the ME.

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  37. @Felix Keverich
    My reading of this situation is that Putin wants to avoid a direct confrontation with the US. What we should be worried about is a proxy war between US and Iran in the Middle East. Russia will assist Iran.

    Iran via proxies is trying to take control Syria-Iraq border to establish a land bridge from Lebanon to Iran. US is trying to stop it with airstrikes. Iranians appear committed however, and American attacks did not deter them thus far. If US decides to push this confrontation futher, Iranians have the means to retaliate against US forces in Syria and Iraq.

    When someone wants it that bad it is not easy to avoid.

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  38. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    The same LUNATICS that lied the USA into the illegal war against Iraq and the illegal bombing and destruction of Libya are now pushing the US into destroying Syria for the glory of Apartheid Israel, then it will be on to Iran.

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch11_en.html

    Will Americans ever wake up and realize that these ME wars are being fought for Israel or will it take mushroom clouds appearing before they wake up?

    P.S. Word is coming in this morning that either Russia or Syria shot down a US drone over the Med.
    And away we go.

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    And there is another list of "reasonable" demands for Qatar, now with US (Tillerson) approval. Interesting times are coming.
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  39. Darin says:
    @Greg Bacon
    The same LUNATICS that lied the USA into the illegal war against Iraq and the illegal bombing and destruction of Libya are now pushing the US into destroying Syria for the glory of Apartheid Israel, then it will be on to Iran.

    http://www.911history.de/aaannxyz_ch11_en.html

    Will Americans ever wake up and realize that these ME wars are being fought for Israel or will it take mushroom clouds appearing before they wake up?

    P.S. Word is coming in this morning that either Russia or Syria shot down a US drone over the Med.
    And away we go.

    And there is another list of “reasonable” demands for Qatar, now with US (Tillerson) approval. Interesting times are coming.

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  40. n230099 says:

    It’s hard to see, with the recruiting and money raising potential this ISIS bunch provides that anyone will “beat’ them anytime soon. A ‘win-win’ is not hard to spot.

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  41. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra
    There of course already is a USA Russia confrontation in Syria.
    The Spanish Civil War was between the west, Hitler and Mussolini, but with support from GB and USA, against the USSR.
    The west won.
    As Putin states 'nobody will survive a USA Russian atomic war'.
    And of course Putin cannot let Syria go, a real domino theory: Syria, Iran, Russia, China.
    So the USA, Deep State, is playing with atomic fire.
    Let us hope that Trump survives, and prevails.

    “People, there is nothing left to hope for in the west. This could be it. The end-run…. We have for too long believed in the treachery of Washington, the false promises, the eternal lies for centuries drop-by-dripping-drop into our brains have drained our self-worth, our autonomy; and we have ‘democratically’ allowed that these Washington bandits and the criminal gang that directs them from behind, have stolen our nations sovereignty.
    We are doomed. The west is doomed. The west is in its final stage of committing unrelenting suicide by sheer greed and monstrous aggressions and an eternal flood of lies. We are cooked. For good, beyond the threshold of no-return.”

    http://thesaker.is/are-we-in-the-final-phase/

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    Unless USA NATO idiots begin a nuclear war with Russia I'm not so pessimistic.
    Resistance against unlimited immigration is rising.
    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.
    Four out of ten French voters want to leave the EU.
    We Dutch in a referendum voted against the EU Ukraine treaty.
    Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat.
    Most important, knowledge in EU member states about technology and organisation still is unique in the world.
    Germany still has the only enterprise in the world capable of making screws for supertankers etc.
    Same with many other technologies in Germany.
    No better greenhouse systems than Dutch systems.
    ASML still makes the best chip machines.
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  42. Jake says:

    In the matter of hating Russia, the NeoCons yet again prove that they usually are as far left as the professed Left.

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  43. Jake says:
    @Talha
    Hey Rurik,

    For sure the US took over the "great game" in the ME from the Brits - along with using Wahhabi-Salfi extremists as proxies to develop facts-on-the-ground. This is why I was keen to be specific in mentioning "our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started ..." just because that's when I see the escalation point starting - especially with regards to a permanent garrison in multiple Gulf countries.

    I really, really miss seeing Ron Paul (may God grant him a long life) speak from that podium.

    Peace.

    Yes, the US in the Middle east simply replaced the British Empire. By the height of the Victorian era, the vast majority of UK Elites were rather decidedly philo-Semitic. But not for the same Semites. One group was militantly pro-Jewish, and the other militantly pro-Arab/Moslem. The second group was usually pro-Wahhabi when maters came down to actual on the ground politics.

    What we have now is the WASP Elites dream from a century and a half ago: The English-speaking Empire allegedly in charge of an alliance that features both Jews and Wahhabi Arabs, an alliance wreaking chaos across the Middle East.

    By the way, many of you may think there is something to the NeoCon notion that what is wrong with Islam is that it has never had a ‘reformation.’ I think most NeoCons know they are lying, for they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan ‘reformation’ right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices.

    Modern English culture, WASP culture, cannot be separated from war against Christendom, war to to destroy and then replace Western Christian Civilization. It thus is natural that WASPs with world power would ally with both Jews and the most violently ‘Protestant-like’ Moslems and unleash waves of terror. That WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East, and clearly it would like to do the same in Russia.

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    Hey Jake,

    they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan ‘reformation’ right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices
     
    This is a great article on the issue:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe

    And apparently, Daesh just took down another mosque - ironically the one from which they declared their caliphate - weird people, these guys:
    "Islamic State blows up landmark Great Mosque of al-Nuri and famous leaning minaret in Mosul"
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/islaimic-state-blows-landmark-great-mosque-al-nuri-famous-leaning/

    On certain moments, the traditional ulema will really let it be known how they feel about these guys:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDeizCWQho

    This is what they did to a Muslim scholar acting on a minor practice that they disagree with, but is well within the realm of legitimate difference of opinion:
    https://twitter.com/Shaykhabulhuda/status/875759546580578305

    WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East
     
    I don't know if this was the intent, but it certainly has been a massive result of the crazy events kicked off by the recent invasion of Iraq. The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me. This is a great example of the divide:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QyoBNiAnLU

    It is imperative that people in the West understand that the best chance for non-Muslim minorities in the ME to survive and prosper are either the secular regimes or the old-guard Sunni order (like Morrocco, Jordan, etc.) - actually even the old-guard Ibadi order in Oman and old-guard Shi'i order in Iran are decent in this regard too. That the Trump administration is making closer ties with the Saudis is just deplorable.

    Peace.
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  44. @MEexpert

    We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars.
     
    The Israeli cancer, in the body of the United States, has spread so much that there are only two outcomes;

    1. The patient will eventually become so corrupt that it will die a moral death, or

    2. The cancer will be surgically removed. That means all ties to the cancerous state of Israel must be severed.

    We are fast approaching the first one and if we want to avoid this outcome, we the people, must rise and demand our gutless representatives to think of America first.

    Our leaders need to take care of the Americans first. We must stop our expansionist policies in the world. They need to ask questions of the Pentagon, the CIA, and the State Department, such as; why are we in Africa? what national interests do we have in that far away land. (49 of the 63 countries have American forces present). Why are we in the Middle East? Before the creation of the Zionist state of Israel, Arabs, Jews, and Christians lived in harmony. Since its creation, the British, the French, and now the United States has caused mayhem in those countries. Now, Muslims are fighting Muslims while Israel enjoys the freedom every individual must have.

    The Pentagon and the weapons industry have gone amok. The industry makes new weapons and the Pentagon is eager to try them out at the expense of innocent people. The Golden Rule that, "do unto others, what you want them do unto you" has been turned upside down. Now we "do unto others (Muslims) what we don't want them do unto us."

    If we don't come to our senses, there is going to be a big payback someday. Mark my words.

    Have to agree with that.
    US is defending Israel’s interests in Syria by blocking the possibility of gas pipelines through Syria that would compete with the Israel/Cyprus gas project under development.
    Also, as we know, israel wants ALL its neighbours be live in a continuous state of destabilisation. The USA is occupied territory.

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    "The US takes Syria’s Al-Qaeda off Terror Watch-lists" https://off-guardian.org/2017/06/12/the-us-takes-syrias-al-qaeda-off-terror-watch-lists/

    9/11 anybody?

    "The US State Department is hesitant to label Tahrir al-Sham a terror group, despite the group’s link to al-Qaeda, as the US government has directly funded and armed the Zenki Brigade, one of the constituents of Tahrir al-Sham, with sophisticated weaponry including the US-made antitank TOW missiles.
    ... for the US to designate Tahrir al-Sham as a terrorist organization now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons to terrorists, and draw attention to the fact that the US continues to arm Islamic jihadists in Syria."
    That simple. The US Congress is indeed Israel-occupied territory.
    "Israel Has Been Secretly Funding Syrian Rebels For Years:" http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years
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  45. There will be no nuclear war. There was never going to be a nuclear war. WWIII has been fought since 1946. Perpetual war for perpetual peace. Now, WWIV might be something to watch for.

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    People were saying before 1914 that war between great powers would not make any sense, would be unwinnable and therefore will not happen.

    And, unlike WWI, WWIII can be started by one man pushing the button ( and few tens of people following orders)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls
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  46. Darin says:
    @Anonymous White Male
    There will be no nuclear war. There was never going to be a nuclear war. WWIII has been fought since 1946. Perpetual war for perpetual peace. Now, WWIV might be something to watch for.

    People were saying before 1914 that war between great powers would not make any sense, would be unwinnable and therefore will not happen.

    And, unlike WWI, WWIII can be started by one man pushing the button ( and few tens of people following orders)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

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    One man pushing a button. No, sorry, it will not be started by one man pushing the button. You've watched too much TV or too many movies.
    , @NoseytheDuke
    WWI, WWII and WWIII (of which we are currently in the economic and propaganda phase) are really all the same conflict with mere pauses for consolidation and redeployments and instigated by the same interests as part of a long term strategy.
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  47. Rurik says: • Website
    @Wally
    "I’m always left gob-smacked at the intransigent anti-Semitism of some people"

    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.

    a supremacist Jew:
    the bride at every wedding, the corpse at every funeral

    "Truth is hate to those that hate the truth."

    The True Cost of Parasite Israel
    Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

    How to Bring Down the Elephant in the Room
    http://www.unz.com/tsaker/how-to-bring-down-the-elephant-in-the-room/

    Israeli occupied territories
    https://codoh.com/media/files/cartoon24s.png

    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.

    Wally, Wally, Wally..

    don’t do sarcasm, eh?

    I’ve been posting here for a while now, and as far as zio-lies go.. how was it that guy from that movie put it.. ‘my own proclivities are, uh, well-known and often-lamented’.

    but you can be forgiven if you’ve studiously avoided reading them, other’s certainly have! ;)

    but now that you’ve tweaked me, let me ask you..

    don’t you suppose at some point that harping on the same mantra endlessly day after day, hour after tiresome hour, that it will eventually become counterproductive?

    I mean I understand the advertising method of repetition and all that, but this isn’t exactly a television audience for a sitcom or reality show. This is a place where thoughtful people congregate, and I’m willing to bet that just as I checked out your links the first time I saw them about a year or two ago, (and I was glad to see you/someone keeping up the good fight) that any subsequent mention of the Holocaust/hoax seemed to me to be something to discuss on threads that had something to do with that subject, *not* on . every . single . article/discussion.

    I suspect that it even does your otherwise laudable crusade harm to be so monomaniacal and singularly persistent. I’m willing to bet that most of us here have already developed our own interpretation of that event by now, and although we’d be interested if some new development came along that proved or disproved some long standing, widely held belief, that for the most part, you’re either preaching to the choir, or are entirely ignored, because you offer nothing new.

    I have a suggestion for what it’s worth. Use the comment section of Unz to treat us all to your insights and interpretations of events and articles. You’re obviously an intelligent fellow, use that to tweak our curiosities and perhaps even create bumps in our consciousness’s – so that we’ll become intrigued with your perceptions, and then what will undoubtably follow is that people will click on the link to your website and perhaps go down that particular rabbit hole, or not. But by forcing the issue, I fear your efforts are perhaps a little off-putting.

    for what it’s worth my friend

    Cheers

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    Strawman, strawman, and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    Please note that I respond in kind.
    If the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is invoked, and it was, please review the relevant posts, then I will respond accordingly.
    You may not like it, but too bad, you cannot stop me.

    I continue to note your dodging, fear of debate, and attempts to suppress free speech.

    And please, do not pretend to be a spokesman for www.unz.com, besides, you're in over your head.


    The embarrassing high school-like drama of Nazi human skin lampshades & shrunken heads stagecraft is absolutely exposed here for the fraud that it is.
    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1529/
    more here:
    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/
    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality
    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en
    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies
    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en
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  48. annamaria says:
    @ThereisaGod
    Have to agree with that.
    US is defending Israel's interests in Syria by blocking the possibility of gas pipelines through Syria that would compete with the Israel/Cyprus gas project under development.
    Also, as we know, israel wants ALL its neighbours be live in a continuous state of destabilisation. The USA is occupied territory.

    “The US takes Syria’s Al-Qaeda off Terror Watch-lists” https://off-guardian.org/2017/06/12/the-us-takes-syrias-al-qaeda-off-terror-watch-lists/

    9/11 anybody?

    “The US State Department is hesitant to label Tahrir al-Sham a terror group, despite the group’s link to al-Qaeda, as the US government has directly funded and armed the Zenki Brigade, one of the constituents of Tahrir al-Sham, with sophisticated weaponry including the US-made antitank TOW missiles.
    … for the US to designate Tahrir al-Sham as a terrorist organization now would mean acknowledging that it supplied sophisticated weapons to terrorists, and draw attention to the fact that the US continues to arm Islamic jihadists in Syria.”
    That simple. The US Congress is indeed Israel-occupied territory.
    “Israel Has Been Secretly Funding Syrian Rebels For Years:” http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-19/israel-has-been-secretly-funding-syrian-rebels-years

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  49. DanCT says:

    Where are the cost estimates for a ground war in Syria against Syria and following that, war against Iran? I recall the Heritage Foundation–talk about a bunch of neocon camp followers and basecamp commandos–claiming that the consequences of Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz would be negligible, when it would likely initiate a worldwide Great Depression.

    Overwhelming US military capability and reach comes at an overwhelming cost that for the present compensates for the neocons and their captive Pentagon’s almost incomprehensible inability to win against adversaries a thousandth the size. A real war might have to be paid for by expropriating the vast trillions in private and public pension funds and substituting, at that point, worthless Treasury paper. How would that go down with those jackasses who buy into an Arab threat?

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  50. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The USA did not.
    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
    Alas impoverished GB lost the war that began in 1945 between British troops and the zionist army.
    Truman abruptly ended LendLease, as British said after the German 1945 capitulation: we won the war, but lost the peace.
    GB citizens for years after 1945 were worse off than during the war.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979

    Hey jiles,

    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.

    You are right about this jiles, which I think makes my point that the US took over the great game – which is why we see some divergence from the original British designs. Also remember how the US stopped the joint British/French fight against Egypt over the Suez.

    As usual, thanks for the references – the number of books you have read is truly inspiring.

    Peace.

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    the US took over the great game


    Do not forget about plata o plomo offer to Truman. First came plomo:
    http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120510.htm and then came plata in form $2 million for his campaign (per Gore Vidal).

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel. Later Stalin realized that he miscalculated and was outplayed by Zionists who Stalin hoped to cast in a role of his 5th column in the West. Stalin had a fit when he realized that the 5th column might be actually operating in his country so planned to go after the Jews in the USSR but he died before he could carry out his anti-Jewish plans.
    , @jilles dykstra
    Even after WWII GB supported the Madagaskar plan.
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    The original Dutch version also has been published.
    Most interesting book, no threat to jews in Mein Kampf, I indeed never found it, but Hitler did threaten jewry in 1939 'if they again started a world war'.
    Adolf Hitler, ‘Mein Kampf’, 1927, 1971, New York
    According to
    Léon Poliakov, 'Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs', 1951, 1974, Paris.
    the threat was Jan 30 1939.
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  51. Talha says:
    @Jake
    Yes, the US in the Middle east simply replaced the British Empire. By the height of the Victorian era, the vast majority of UK Elites were rather decidedly philo-Semitic. But not for the same Semites. One group was militantly pro-Jewish, and the other militantly pro-Arab/Moslem. The second group was usually pro-Wahhabi when maters came down to actual on the ground politics.

    What we have now is the WASP Elites dream from a century and a half ago: The English-speaking Empire allegedly in charge of an alliance that features both Jews and Wahhabi Arabs, an alliance wreaking chaos across the Middle East.

    By the way, many of you may think there is something to the NeoCon notion that what is wrong with Islam is that it has never had a 'reformation.' I think most NeoCons know they are lying, for they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan 'reformation' right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices.

    Modern English culture, WASP culture, cannot be separated from war against Christendom, war to to destroy and then replace Western Christian Civilization. It thus is natural that WASPs with world power would ally with both Jews and the most violently 'Protestant-like' Moslems and unleash waves of terror. That WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East, and clearly it would like to do the same in Russia.

    Hey Jake,

    they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan ‘reformation’ right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices

    This is a great article on the issue:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe

    And apparently, Daesh just took down another mosque – ironically the one from which they declared their caliphate – weird people, these guys:
    “Islamic State blows up landmark Great Mosque of al-Nuri and famous leaning minaret in Mosul”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/islaimic-state-blows-landmark-great-mosque-al-nuri-famous-leaning/

    On certain moments, the traditional ulema will really let it be known how they feel about these guys:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDeizCWQho

    This is what they did to a Muslim scholar acting on a minor practice that they disagree with, but is well within the realm of legitimate difference of opinion:

    WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East

    I don’t know if this was the intent, but it certainly has been a massive result of the crazy events kicked off by the recent invasion of Iraq. The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me. This is a great example of the divide:

    It is imperative that people in the West understand that the best chance for non-Muslim minorities in the ME to survive and prosper are either the secular regimes or the old-guard Sunni order (like Morrocco, Jordan, etc.) – actually even the old-guard Ibadi order in Oman and old-guard Shi’i order in Iran are decent in this regard too. That the Trump administration is making closer ties with the Saudis is just deplorable.

    Peace.

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    Hey Talha,

    The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me.
     
    it isn't contempt Talha, its cowardice. Moral cowardice to be precise.

    while I respect Christians in general, and love many in particular, the leadership of the Christian churches in the West today are venal and craven.

    They'd watch every single Christian cleansed from the holy land, and Bethlehem in particular, in order appease their Jewish master$. There doesn't seem to be one outrage commited against Christians that the leadership even notices so long as the immigrants keep coming.

    as far as Christian tolerance goes here at home, there was recently a delightful conservative, (and easy on the eyes!) young firebrand that would go off on liberal idiocy and puerile infantilism regularly on a cable television channel, until she made the mistake of having a dissenting opinion on some rigid, dogmatic tenent of orthodoxy, (I think over abortion of some kind), and then right on cue she was crucified and excommunicated for her heresy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt6TtP8oPdk

    she's still on the Internet (thank God), but it just goes to show that not only Muslims and Jews are capable of intransigent religious bigotry

    Peace

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  52. nebulafox says:

    Turkey has an interest in Assad being gone. Saudi Arabia has an interest in Assad being gone.

    *We* do not.

    Write that down on a blackboard one hundred times, and never forget it.

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  53. @Darin
    People were saying before 1914 that war between great powers would not make any sense, would be unwinnable and therefore will not happen.

    And, unlike WWI, WWIII can be started by one man pushing the button ( and few tens of people following orders)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

    One man pushing a button. No, sorry, it will not be started by one man pushing the button. You’ve watched too much TV or too many movies.

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  54. Wally says: • Website
    @Rurik

    Spoken like a supremacist Jew who cares nothing about the truth.
     
    Wally, Wally, Wally..

    don't do sarcasm, eh?

    I've been posting here for a while now, and as far as zio-lies go.. how was it that guy from that movie put it.. 'my own proclivities are, uh, well-known and often-lamented'.

    but you can be forgiven if you've studiously avoided reading them, other's certainly have! ;)

    but now that you've tweaked me, let me ask you..

    don't you suppose at some point that harping on the same mantra endlessly day after day, hour after tiresome hour, that it will eventually become counterproductive?

    I mean I understand the advertising method of repetition and all that, but this isn't exactly a television audience for a sitcom or reality show. This is a place where thoughtful people congregate, and I'm willing to bet that just as I checked out your links the first time I saw them about a year or two ago, (and I was glad to see you/someone keeping up the good fight) that any subsequent mention of the Holocaust/hoax seemed to me to be something to discuss on threads that had something to do with that subject, *not* on . every . single . article/discussion.

    I suspect that it even does your otherwise laudable crusade harm to be so monomaniacal and singularly persistent. I'm willing to bet that most of us here have already developed our own interpretation of that event by now, and although we'd be interested if some new development came along that proved or disproved some long standing, widely held belief, that for the most part, you're either preaching to the choir, or are entirely ignored, because you offer nothing new.

    I have a suggestion for what it's worth. Use the comment section of Unz to treat us all to your insights and interpretations of events and articles. You're obviously an intelligent fellow, use that to tweak our curiosities and perhaps even create bumps in our consciousness's - so that we'll become intrigued with your perceptions, and then what will undoubtably follow is that people will click on the link to your website and perhaps go down that particular rabbit hole, or not. But by forcing the issue, I fear your efforts are perhaps a little off-putting.

    for what it's worth my friend

    Cheers

    Strawman, strawman, and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    [MORE]

    Please note that I respond in kind.
    If the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is invoked, and it was, please review the relevant posts, then I will respond accordingly.
    You may not like it, but too bad, you cannot stop me.

    I continue to note your dodging, fear of debate, and attempts to suppress free speech.

    And please, do not pretend to be a spokesman for http://www.unz.com, besides, you’re in over your head.

    The embarrassing high school-like drama of Nazi human skin lampshades & shrunken heads stagecraft is absolutely exposed here for the fraud that it is.
    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil

    http://codoh.com/library/document/1529/

    more here:
    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war

    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/

    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality

    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en

    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies

    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en

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    and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!
     
    huh?!
    , @Anon
    Jesus, you're a moron
    , @NoseytheDuke
    Wakey, wakey Wally. I understood that the person calling you a zionist agent was implying that your posts add weight to the claim that some people hate all Jews just for being Jews and that helps to garner support for the more radical, Likud type, zionist elements. Know your enemy. Can you follow that?

    I also understood Rurik to be offering helpful advice to you by pointing out that your endless repetition does not serve your intentions. You could try posting various different facts that people might not know about and you also missed his sarcasm in the earlier #15 comment.
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  55. utu says:
    @Talha
    Hey jiles,

    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
     
    You are right about this jiles, which I think makes my point that the US took over the great game - which is why we see some divergence from the original British designs. Also remember how the US stopped the joint British/French fight against Egypt over the Suez.

    As usual, thanks for the references - the number of books you have read is truly inspiring.

    Peace.

    the US took over the great game

    Do not forget about plata o plomo offer to Truman. First came plomo:
    http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120510.htm and then came plata in form $2 million for his campaign (per Gore Vidal).

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel. Later Stalin realized that he miscalculated and was outplayed by Zionists who Stalin hoped to cast in a role of his 5th column in the West. Stalin had a fit when he realized that the 5th column might be actually operating in his country so planned to go after the Jews in the USSR but he died before he could carry out his anti-Jewish plans.

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    Hey utu,

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel.
     
    Did not know this. Do you have a quick reference for this?

    Peace.
    , @jilles dykstra
    The USSR never supported the creation of Israel.
    As far as I know no state supported the creation of Israel.
    The zionist army was a jewish creation, with help, of course, from jews from all over the world.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979
    After the Israeli state was proclaimed the USSR was the first to recognise the state.
    Abba Eban, ‘An Autobiography’, 1977, New York
    shows how Israel began on a shoestring.
    The reason for the succes of the zionist army was that none of the Arab states had an army worth anything.
    Just Jordan had a small well organised army
    Glubb Pacha, Sir John Bagot Glubb, 'Soldat avec les Arabes', Paris 1958 (A soldier with the Arabs, London, 1957)
    , @jilles dykstra
    It has been asserted that jews with Chrustjow murdered Stalin.
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  56. @annamaria
    "People, there is nothing left to hope for in the west. This could be it. The end-run.... We have for too long believed in the treachery of Washington, the false promises, the eternal lies for centuries drop-by-dripping-drop into our brains have drained our self-worth, our autonomy; and we have ‘democratically’ allowed that these Washington bandits and the criminal gang that directs them from behind, have stolen our nations sovereignty.
    We are doomed. The west is doomed. The west is in its final stage of committing unrelenting suicide by sheer greed and monstrous aggressions and an eternal flood of lies. We are cooked. For good, beyond the threshold of no-return."
    http://thesaker.is/are-we-in-the-final-phase/

    Unless USA NATO idiots begin a nuclear war with Russia I’m not so pessimistic.
    Resistance against unlimited immigration is rising.
    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.
    Four out of ten French voters want to leave the EU.
    We Dutch in a referendum voted against the EU Ukraine treaty.
    Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat.
    Most important, knowledge in EU member states about technology and organisation still is unique in the world.
    Germany still has the only enterprise in the world capable of making screws for supertankers etc.
    Same with many other technologies in Germany.
    No better greenhouse systems than Dutch systems.
    ASML still makes the best chip machines.

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    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.
     
    It didn't have to be this way. Theoretically, the idea of a common European economic (and even scientific/cultural) cooperative block sounds good - for instance things like Airbus. But it seems like the elites had their own purposes in mind and it's good Europeans are waking up to the reality. It's much like the problems we are facing in the US - the Federal govt seems to have just way too much concentrated power - it's time for the pendulum to swing back to the more local level.

    Peace.
    , @annamaria
    "Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat."
    And yet some very intelligent people, both in the US and EU, still trust the mainstream media "analyses" and condemn Russia for its "crimes" in Syria. It seems that the transformation of the west from the beacon of democracy to a malicious plutocratic beast was too fast for many to adjust.
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  57. @Talha
    Hey jiles,

    GB did not want a jewish state in Palestine.
     
    You are right about this jiles, which I think makes my point that the US took over the great game - which is why we see some divergence from the original British designs. Also remember how the US stopped the joint British/French fight against Egypt over the Suez.

    As usual, thanks for the references - the number of books you have read is truly inspiring.

    Peace.

    Even after WWII GB supported the Madagaskar plan.
    Hans Jansen, ‘Der Madagaskar Plan, Die beabsichtigte Deportation der europäischen Juden nach Madagaskar’, München 1997
    The original Dutch version also has been published.
    Most interesting book, no threat to jews in Mein Kampf, I indeed never found it, but Hitler did threaten jewry in 1939 ‘if they again started a world war’.
    Adolf Hitler, ‘Mein Kampf’, 1927, 1971, New York
    According to
    Léon Poliakov, ‘Bréviaire de la Haine, Le IIIe Reich et les Juifs’, 1951, 1974, Paris.
    the threat was Jan 30 1939.

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  58. Talha says:
    @utu
    the US took over the great game


    Do not forget about plata o plomo offer to Truman. First came plomo:
    http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120510.htm and then came plata in form $2 million for his campaign (per Gore Vidal).

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel. Later Stalin realized that he miscalculated and was outplayed by Zionists who Stalin hoped to cast in a role of his 5th column in the West. Stalin had a fit when he realized that the 5th column might be actually operating in his country so planned to go after the Jews in the USSR but he died before he could carry out his anti-Jewish plans.

    Hey utu,

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel.

    Did not know this. Do you have a quick reference for this?

    Peace.

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    Soviet diplomacy leading to creation of Israel
    https://www.marxists.org/subject/jewish/soviets-israel.pdf

    Support of communist Poland
    http://embassies.gov.il/WARSAW-EN/RELATIONS/HISTORY-OF-RELATIONS/Pages/il-pl-history.aspx

    The Polish authorities allowed carrying out training for recruits to armed Zionist organizations, who later fought for the independence of Israel. In late 1947 and 1948 in the Lower Silesia city of Bolkow about 2,500 Jews participated in such military trainings.

    Poland took the pro-Israeli position in two key moments – during a vote in the UN on the 29th of November 1947 Poland supported the idea of division of the territory of Mandate Palestine into Jewish and Arab, and after Israel's declaration of independence in May 1948, Poland was one of the first to recognize the new state and to establish diplomatic relations with it. On September 29, 1948 first Israeli diplomatic mission arrived to Poland.​
     

    Military support from communist Czechoslovakia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_shipments_from_Czechoslovakia_to_Israel_1947–49

    Total deliveries (confirmed until October 1948)
    Infantry weapons
    34,500 P-18 rifles
    5,515 MG 34 machine guns with 10,000 ammo belts
    10,000 vz.24 bayonets
    900 vz. 37 heavy machine guns
    500 vz. 27 pistols
    12 ZK-383 submachine guns
    10 ZK 420 semi-automatic rifles
    500 vz. 26 light machine guns (shipped, yet delivery not confirmed in Czech sources)
    Infantry ammunition
    91,500,000 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridges
    15,000,000 9mm Parabellum cartridges
    375,000 13mm cartridges for MG 131
    150,000 20mm cartridges for MG 151
    375,000 7.65mm cartridges for vz. 27 pistol
    Aircraft

    Israeli Avia S-199, 1948
    25 Avia S-199 fighters
    61 Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX fighters

     

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  59. bluedog says:
    @Talha
    Hey Realist,

    Their wars should never be our wars.
     
    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I. Should have been left to be handled locally really. What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions (that we love to use) - which we slapped on Iraq anyway. Our current craze of hyper-intervention in the ME started there and just kept rising.

    I thought Reagan had it right when he saw how crazy the ME soup could get with the Marine barracks bombing and decided (wisely) to back off.

    Peace.

    He backed off because it was to tough for him and attacked a small island instead, for after all they needed a victory somewhere anywhere, after all it was getting downright depressing getting the shit kicked out of us everywhere we decided to go…

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    Dang - you brought up Grenada! Yeah we sure showed those guys who's boss! USA! USA!

    Remember Panama! Ah - those were the good old days! We were on a roll!

    Ain't no stopping us now - sing it white-girls!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nz1SlI1XtU

    Note to empire - keep it to barely armed nations with less than 5 million population and all will run smooth...and for God's sake, stay away from Muslim nations that have a martyrdom narrative.

    Peace.
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  60. @utu
    the US took over the great game


    Do not forget about plata o plomo offer to Truman. First came plomo:
    http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120510.htm and then came plata in form $2 million for his campaign (per Gore Vidal).

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel. Later Stalin realized that he miscalculated and was outplayed by Zionists who Stalin hoped to cast in a role of his 5th column in the West. Stalin had a fit when he realized that the 5th column might be actually operating in his country so planned to go after the Jews in the USSR but he died before he could carry out his anti-Jewish plans.

    The USSR never supported the creation of Israel.
    As far as I know no state supported the creation of Israel.
    The zionist army was a jewish creation, with help, of course, from jews from all over the world.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979
    After the Israeli state was proclaimed the USSR was the first to recognise the state.
    Abba Eban, ‘An Autobiography’, 1977, New York
    shows how Israel began on a shoestring.
    The reason for the succes of the zionist army was that none of the Arab states had an army worth anything.
    Just Jordan had a small well organised army
    Glubb Pacha, Sir John Bagot Glubb, ‘Soldat avec les Arabes’, Paris 1958 (A soldier with the Arabs, London, 1957)

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    Hey jiles,

    The reason for the succes of the zionist army was that none of the Arab states had an army worth anything.
     
    When you've depended on a well-trained corps of Turkish, Circassian and Bosnian soldiers and officers to guard your borders for centuries - you tend to go soft.

    Peace.
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  61. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Unless USA NATO idiots begin a nuclear war with Russia I'm not so pessimistic.
    Resistance against unlimited immigration is rising.
    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.
    Four out of ten French voters want to leave the EU.
    We Dutch in a referendum voted against the EU Ukraine treaty.
    Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat.
    Most important, knowledge in EU member states about technology and organisation still is unique in the world.
    Germany still has the only enterprise in the world capable of making screws for supertankers etc.
    Same with many other technologies in Germany.
    No better greenhouse systems than Dutch systems.
    ASML still makes the best chip machines.

    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.

    It didn’t have to be this way. Theoretically, the idea of a common European economic (and even scientific/cultural) cooperative block sounds good – for instance things like Airbus. But it seems like the elites had their own purposes in mind and it’s good Europeans are waking up to the reality. It’s much like the problems we are facing in the US – the Federal govt seems to have just way too much concentrated power – it’s time for the pendulum to swing back to the more local level.

    Peace.

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  62. @utu
    the US took over the great game


    Do not forget about plata o plomo offer to Truman. First came plomo:
    http://www.dcdave.com/article5/120510.htm and then came plata in form $2 million for his campaign (per Gore Vidal).

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel. Later Stalin realized that he miscalculated and was outplayed by Zionists who Stalin hoped to cast in a role of his 5th column in the West. Stalin had a fit when he realized that the 5th column might be actually operating in his country so planned to go after the Jews in the USSR but he died before he could carry out his anti-Jewish plans.

    It has been asserted that jews with Chrustjow murdered Stalin.

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    Yes, there are many suspicions about the death of Stalin. He was alone in the dacha (not his as the western propaganda says - he had no property apart from basic household goods) and the head of his bodyguard called he Kremlin concerning his condition. Khrushchev and Beria came and found him unconscious but told the guards there was nothing wrong, that he was asleep.

    At the time of his death Stalin was promoting Kirichenko (?) as his preferred successor ahead of Malenkov (then the chairman of the Council of Ministers) and Khrushchev was far from being considered leadership material, in fact he was derided as a clownish sycophant by other Politburo members). There was also in motion an investigation into a series of deaths of high party officials suspected of being organised poisonings by doctors (the White Frocks Conspiracy). This investigation came to an abrupt halt after Stalin's death.
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  63. Rurik says: • Website
    @Wally
    Strawman, strawman, and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    Please note that I respond in kind.
    If the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is invoked, and it was, please review the relevant posts, then I will respond accordingly.
    You may not like it, but too bad, you cannot stop me.

    I continue to note your dodging, fear of debate, and attempts to suppress free speech.

    And please, do not pretend to be a spokesman for www.unz.com, besides, you're in over your head.


    The embarrassing high school-like drama of Nazi human skin lampshades & shrunken heads stagecraft is absolutely exposed here for the fraud that it is.
    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1529/
    more here:
    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/
    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality
    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en
    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies
    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en

    and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    huh?!

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    I think you should just back off at this point - I don't think he understood your initial comment was facetious - and it just rolled the wrong way from that point. Trust me, disengage - not worth it.

    Peace.
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  64. annamaria says:
    @jilles dykstra
    Unless USA NATO idiots begin a nuclear war with Russia I'm not so pessimistic.
    Resistance against unlimited immigration is rising.
    All the time more people in EU member states discover that the EU is monster.
    Four out of ten French voters want to leave the EU.
    We Dutch in a referendum voted against the EU Ukraine treaty.
    Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat.
    Most important, knowledge in EU member states about technology and organisation still is unique in the world.
    Germany still has the only enterprise in the world capable of making screws for supertankers etc.
    Same with many other technologies in Germany.
    No better greenhouse systems than Dutch systems.
    ASML still makes the best chip machines.

    “Many are very sceptical about a Russian threat.”
    And yet some very intelligent people, both in the US and EU, still trust the mainstream media “analyses” and condemn Russia for its “crimes” in Syria. It seems that the transformation of the west from the beacon of democracy to a malicious plutocratic beast was too fast for many to adjust.

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  65. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Wally
    Strawman, strawman, and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    Please note that I respond in kind.
    If the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is invoked, and it was, please review the relevant posts, then I will respond accordingly.
    You may not like it, but too bad, you cannot stop me.

    I continue to note your dodging, fear of debate, and attempts to suppress free speech.

    And please, do not pretend to be a spokesman for www.unz.com, besides, you're in over your head.


    The embarrassing high school-like drama of Nazi human skin lampshades & shrunken heads stagecraft is absolutely exposed here for the fraud that it is.
    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1529/
    more here:
    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/
    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality
    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en
    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies
    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en

    Jesus, you’re a moron

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    Hey Zionist, I beat you and your impossible '6M' to a pulp every time.

    Examples forth coming. LOL!
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  66. Rurik says: • Website
    @Talha
    Hey Jake,

    they know that Wahhabism was a Mohammedan ‘reformation’ right down to beating and murdering people for asking for the intercession of saints and destroying places of worship contaminated with such practices
     
    This is a great article on the issue:
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/17/islam-reformation-extremism-muslim-martin-luther-europe

    And apparently, Daesh just took down another mosque - ironically the one from which they declared their caliphate - weird people, these guys:
    "Islamic State blows up landmark Great Mosque of al-Nuri and famous leaning minaret in Mosul"
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/21/islaimic-state-blows-landmark-great-mosque-al-nuri-famous-leaning/

    On certain moments, the traditional ulema will really let it be known how they feel about these guys:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDeizCWQho

    This is what they did to a Muslim scholar acting on a minor practice that they disagree with, but is well within the realm of legitimate difference of opinion:
    https://twitter.com/Shaykhabulhuda/status/875759546580578305

    WASPJewish+Wahhabi Moslem alliance has almost decimated Christianity in the Middle East
     
    I don't know if this was the intent, but it certainly has been a massive result of the crazy events kicked off by the recent invasion of Iraq. The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me. This is a great example of the divide:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QyoBNiAnLU

    It is imperative that people in the West understand that the best chance for non-Muslim minorities in the ME to survive and prosper are either the secular regimes or the old-guard Sunni order (like Morrocco, Jordan, etc.) - actually even the old-guard Ibadi order in Oman and old-guard Shi'i order in Iran are decent in this regard too. That the Trump administration is making closer ties with the Saudis is just deplorable.

    Peace.

    Hey Talha,

    The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me.

    it isn’t contempt Talha, its cowardice. Moral cowardice to be precise.

    while I respect Christians in general, and love many in particular, the leadership of the Christian churches in the West today are venal and craven.

    They’d watch every single Christian cleansed from the holy land, and Bethlehem in particular, in order appease their Jewish master$. There doesn’t seem to be one outrage commited against Christians that the leadership even notices so long as the immigrants keep coming.

    as far as Christian tolerance goes here at home, there was recently a delightful conservative, (and easy on the eyes!) young firebrand that would go off on liberal idiocy and puerile infantilism regularly on a cable television channel, until she made the mistake of having a dissenting opinion on some rigid, dogmatic tenent of orthodoxy, (I think over abortion of some kind), and then right on cue she was crucified and excommunicated for her heresy.

    she’s still on the Internet (thank God), but it just goes to show that not only Muslims and Jews are capable of intransigent religious bigotry

    Peace

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    The major "problem" with evangelical Christians is that many of them consider Jews to be "the Chosen People", to be elevated to the status of "near Gods" that can do no wrong.
    Their elevation of the land of Israel to that of "holy real estate" is sickening.
    Their slavish adoration of Israelis, and especially Israeli political figures is beyond insane.
    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
    If Christians knew what Jews REALLY think of them, they would not be so accommodating.
    In fact, in many cases, Moslems have more respect for Christians.
    Compare the attitudes that Jews and Moslems have for Jesus Christ...
    Jews consider Jesus Christ to be an apostate that is boiling in excrement for eternity while stating that his mother Mary was a harlot who consorted with a Roman soldier. The Jewish Talmud states as such.
    Moslems consider Jesus Christ to be a great prophet--not the "Son of God", but a great prophet nevertheless, while his mother Mary is given a place of high honor, being specifically mentioned in the Qur'an...
    Now which "faith" has greater respect for Christianity?
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  67. Talha says:
    @bluedog
    He backed off because it was to tough for him and attacked a small island instead, for after all they needed a victory somewhere anywhere, after all it was getting downright depressing getting the shit kicked out of us everywhere we decided to go...

    Dang – you brought up Grenada! Yeah we sure showed those guys who’s boss! USA! USA!

    Remember Panama! Ah – those were the good old days! We were on a roll!

    Ain’t no stopping us now – sing it white-girls!

    Note to empire – keep it to barely armed nations with less than 5 million population and all will run smooth…and for God’s sake, stay away from Muslim nations that have a martyrdom narrative.

    Peace.

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  68. Talha says:
    @jilles dykstra
    The USSR never supported the creation of Israel.
    As far as I know no state supported the creation of Israel.
    The zionist army was a jewish creation, with help, of course, from jews from all over the world.
    Nicholas Bethel, ‘The Palestinian Triangle, The struggle between the British, the Jews and the Arabs, 1935-48’, London 1979
    After the Israeli state was proclaimed the USSR was the first to recognise the state.
    Abba Eban, ‘An Autobiography’, 1977, New York
    shows how Israel began on a shoestring.
    The reason for the succes of the zionist army was that none of the Arab states had an army worth anything.
    Just Jordan had a small well organised army
    Glubb Pacha, Sir John Bagot Glubb, 'Soldat avec les Arabes', Paris 1958 (A soldier with the Arabs, London, 1957)

    Hey jiles,

    The reason for the succes of the zionist army was that none of the Arab states had an army worth anything.

    When you’ve depended on a well-trained corps of Turkish, Circassian and Bosnian soldiers and officers to guard your borders for centuries – you tend to go soft.

    Peace.

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  69. Talha says:
    @Rurik

    and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!
     
    huh?!

    I think you should just back off at this point – I don’t think he understood your initial comment was facetious – and it just rolled the wrong way from that point. Trust me, disengage – not worth it.

    Peace.

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    Wally, if you're reading this, I'm not against you

    I agree with most of your points

    I do believe the Holocaust was widely exaggerated and used as a blood libel against the German race (for perpetuity) and also to genocide an innocent people who had nothing to do with it

    OK?

    I was joking about Pat being an anti-Semite. (That's part of my schtick from time to time, I'm trying to inject some humor ; )

    sorry for the misunderstanding

    ~ trying to make Peace

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  70. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik
    Hey Talha,

    The contempt some of the evangelical Christians have for their fellow Christians in the ME is amazing to me.
     
    it isn't contempt Talha, its cowardice. Moral cowardice to be precise.

    while I respect Christians in general, and love many in particular, the leadership of the Christian churches in the West today are venal and craven.

    They'd watch every single Christian cleansed from the holy land, and Bethlehem in particular, in order appease their Jewish master$. There doesn't seem to be one outrage commited against Christians that the leadership even notices so long as the immigrants keep coming.

    as far as Christian tolerance goes here at home, there was recently a delightful conservative, (and easy on the eyes!) young firebrand that would go off on liberal idiocy and puerile infantilism regularly on a cable television channel, until she made the mistake of having a dissenting opinion on some rigid, dogmatic tenent of orthodoxy, (I think over abortion of some kind), and then right on cue she was crucified and excommunicated for her heresy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt6TtP8oPdk

    she's still on the Internet (thank God), but it just goes to show that not only Muslims and Jews are capable of intransigent religious bigotry

    Peace

    The major “problem” with evangelical Christians is that many of them consider Jews to be “the Chosen People”, to be elevated to the status of “near Gods” that can do no wrong.
    Their elevation of the land of Israel to that of “holy real estate” is sickening.
    Their slavish adoration of Israelis, and especially Israeli political figures is beyond insane.
    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
    If Christians knew what Jews REALLY think of them, they would not be so accommodating.
    In fact, in many cases, Moslems have more respect for Christians.
    Compare the attitudes that Jews and Moslems have for Jesus Christ…
    Jews consider Jesus Christ to be an apostate that is boiling in excrement for eternity while stating that his mother Mary was a harlot who consorted with a Roman soldier. The Jewish Talmud states as such.
    Moslems consider Jesus Christ to be a great prophet–not the “Son of God”, but a great prophet nevertheless, while his mother Mary is given a place of high honor, being specifically mentioned in the Qur’an…
    Now which “faith” has greater respect for Christianity?

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    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
     
    that's what I mean by venal, anarchist

    and yet the congregations all seem too cowardly to even notice as the Christians are systematically cleansed from places like Bethlehem

    didn't Jerry Foulsmell fly around in a private jet provided as a gift (quid pro quo) by the Israeli government?

    I occasionally go to the Methodist church that I was raised in, and there- in glaring prominence on the alter- is a tapestry embroidered in a biblical-looking script the word 'Israel'

    I listen to Christian radio (Moody radio for instance) from time to time, (I also listen to NPR and all the other viewpoints I can absorb), and anyways, the 'Christians' are always waxing oh-so-reverentially over any Biblical references to "Israel'.

    The Zionists sure knew what they were doing by picking that particular piece of real-estate to terrorize the Muslims and Christians off of. But who'd have thought that the Christians would be that craven?! That they'd allow anything to be done to them and their nations by the forces of Zion so long as the shekels kept coming.

    I remember going into a Presbyterian Church with my devout mother when she came to visit, [God rest her saintly soul] and she knew my opinions about contrived wars for fun and profit, but she was hoping on this day that the sermon would be uplifting, instead it was a bloodthirsty call for vengeance in the holy land against modern day Muslims like the ones who had killed Jewish children in biblical times. (I swear I could hear the shekels clinking under his frock)

    I did what I could to act like it was nothing, but my mother was crestfallen. She so wanted me to be inspired! And instead she was ashamed.

    I don't seem to know of one major Christian leader who has or does speak out against the biblical levels of evil going on in the holy land and elsewhere. *Where are they*?!

    they're like our congress, and the European and Scandinavian governments.

    It seems like there is simply no Christian with the integrity to take on these netherworld demons who slaughter and maim in the holiest place on earth, and mock all notions of a just God, right to His face. And his flock are all like Peter, and deny and deny and deny.. Nay, they're like Judas, and take their sack of 30 shekels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3cY5n7v9X8

    I suppose that's one reason I like Pat Buchanan. At least he has the brains and balls to tell the oblique truth. Even if in veiled language.

    , @Anonymous
    The Evangelical worship of Jews is bad. But even worse is their crusade against abortion. We're it not for abortion blacks would be 30 percent of the population instead of 12.5. That 12.5 causes 80 percent of the problems yet the Evangelicals want to end abortion.

    The southern baptists just had their convention. They passed a resolution condemning all Whites for racism. The southern Christians also send their teens and young people to Haiti every summer to pretend to help Haiti recover from some earthquake or hurricane or something 20 years ago. They also adopt Haitian babies

    They are as anti White as BLM, LARAZA SPLC ADL and AJC
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  71. Rurik says: • Website
    @Talha
    I think you should just back off at this point - I don't think he understood your initial comment was facetious - and it just rolled the wrong way from that point. Trust me, disengage - not worth it.

    Peace.

    Wally, if you’re reading this, I’m not against you

    I agree with most of your points

    I do believe the Holocaust was widely exaggerated and used as a blood libel against the German race (for perpetuity) and also to genocide an innocent people who had nothing to do with it

    OK?

    I was joking about Pat being an anti-Semite. (That’s part of my schtick from time to time, I’m trying to inject some humor ; )

    sorry for the misunderstanding

    ~ trying to make Peace

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    Spoken like a gentlemen, cheers.

    My point is that unless the fraudulent '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is discussed & exposed for the scam that it is, nothing will change for the better.

    "Every discussion leads to Auschwitz".

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  72. Tiny Duck says:
    @Exiled off mainstreet
    We would all lose a war with Russia even if we "won" at the price of a nuclear exchange. As the article indicates, it is illegal and not authorized by congress, though I am afraid the Israeli influenced congress would authorize such lunacy if it were demanded. Frankly we seem to swirling down a fatal drain with no way to stop this process. The rule of law and republican government appear to be a thing of the past in the yankee imperium.

    Um, no

    We would wipe the floor with Russia

    Russia is full of pale pasty white boys and the rest of the world hates them

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    LOL! I love this guy - seriously - he takes trolling to a Olympic competitive level. Someone give this guy a prize! Honestly, ain't nobody better at UNZ than Tha Duck! And his posts are never more than a few short sentences - it's an art!

    Please keep posting here!

    Peace.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    China has pretty close relations with Russia, and they are part of the world, to my knowledge.
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  73. Talha says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Um, no

    We would wipe the floor with Russia

    Russia is full of pale pasty white boys and the rest of the world hates them

    LOL! I love this guy – seriously – he takes trolling to a Olympic competitive level. Someone give this guy a prize! Honestly, ain’t nobody better at UNZ than Tha Duck! And his posts are never more than a few short sentences – it’s an art!

    Please keep posting here!

    Peace.

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    Gosh, I really should invest in new reading glasses, all this time until I read your comment I thought it was Tiny Dick.
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  74. @Tiny Duck
    Um, no

    We would wipe the floor with Russia

    Russia is full of pale pasty white boys and the rest of the world hates them

    China has pretty close relations with Russia, and they are part of the world, to my knowledge.

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    No. China doesn't exist, actually. It's a lie. You may think your ancestors were from there, but they are actually just French Canadians with funny makeup.
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  75. Rurik says: • Website
    @anarchyst
    The major "problem" with evangelical Christians is that many of them consider Jews to be "the Chosen People", to be elevated to the status of "near Gods" that can do no wrong.
    Their elevation of the land of Israel to that of "holy real estate" is sickening.
    Their slavish adoration of Israelis, and especially Israeli political figures is beyond insane.
    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
    If Christians knew what Jews REALLY think of them, they would not be so accommodating.
    In fact, in many cases, Moslems have more respect for Christians.
    Compare the attitudes that Jews and Moslems have for Jesus Christ...
    Jews consider Jesus Christ to be an apostate that is boiling in excrement for eternity while stating that his mother Mary was a harlot who consorted with a Roman soldier. The Jewish Talmud states as such.
    Moslems consider Jesus Christ to be a great prophet--not the "Son of God", but a great prophet nevertheless, while his mother Mary is given a place of high honor, being specifically mentioned in the Qur'an...
    Now which "faith" has greater respect for Christianity?

    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.

    that’s what I mean by venal, anarchist

    and yet the congregations all seem too cowardly to even notice as the Christians are systematically cleansed from places like Bethlehem

    didn’t Jerry Foulsmell fly around in a private jet provided as a gift (quid pro quo) by the Israeli government?

    I occasionally go to the Methodist church that I was raised in, and there- in glaring prominence on the alter- is a tapestry embroidered in a biblical-looking script the word ‘Israel’

    I listen to Christian radio (Moody radio for instance) from time to time, (I also listen to NPR and all the other viewpoints I can absorb), and anyways, the ‘Christians’ are always waxing oh-so-reverentially over any Biblical references to “Israel’.

    The Zionists sure knew what they were doing by picking that particular piece of real-estate to terrorize the Muslims and Christians off of. But who’d have thought that the Christians would be that craven?! That they’d allow anything to be done to them and their nations by the forces of Zion so long as the shekels kept coming.

    I remember going into a Presbyterian Church with my devout mother when she came to visit, [God rest her saintly soul] and she knew my opinions about contrived wars for fun and profit, but she was hoping on this day that the sermon would be uplifting, instead it was a bloodthirsty call for vengeance in the holy land against modern day Muslims like the ones who had killed Jewish children in biblical times. (I swear I could hear the shekels clinking under his frock)

    I did what I could to act like it was nothing, but my mother was crestfallen. She so wanted me to be inspired! And instead she was ashamed.

    I don’t seem to know of one major Christian leader who has or does speak out against the biblical levels of evil going on in the holy land and elsewhere. *Where are they*?!

    they’re like our congress, and the European and Scandinavian governments.

    It seems like there is simply no Christian with the integrity to take on these netherworld demons who slaughter and maim in the holiest place on earth, and mock all notions of a just God, right to His face. And his flock are all like Peter, and deny and deny and deny.. Nay, they’re like Judas, and take their sack of 30 shekels

    I suppose that’s one reason I like Pat Buchanan. At least he has the brains and balls to tell the oblique truth. Even if in veiled language.

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    Even the Catholic Church was infiltrated by Vatican II absolving the Jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ.
    Jews DID take full responsibility...
    , @Stonehands
    The scriptures plainly state that in the end times there would be many anti-christs- and also among them- there would be wolves in sheeps clothing. Obviously, Hagee is an example of this; so is a political organization such as the southern Baptist convention, as well as the "Presbyterian" church. I've pointed out the distinguishing features between Biblical Christianty vs. "cultural christianity" in prior posts to you...
    These "state churches" whether they be , catholic (or its daughters) lutheran, presb.,anglican, orthodox Greek or Russian- practice pedo baptism as opposed to credo baptism...

    In order to become a Christian one must profess a conviction of sin, and reliance on the grace of Christ's substitutionary sacrifice with their mouth or heart! A baby can't do this! A godfather or godmother cannot stand in corporately for you, for He is a personal God...then we are baptized symbolizing the death and resurrection of Christ in accordance with God's ordinance.

    The scriptures state that the seed of Abraham will be gathered in lsrael prior to the tribulation. From this remnant some will accept Christ and be saved.

    The big surprise is that some "Palestinians", many arabs, some Spaniards and portuguese, and of course some Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.

    Also, our tiny Indepedent Fundamental Baptist church has a missionary outpost in Ashdod, Israel. We are not a community- centered church; we are a Christ- centered church!

    P.s.
    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.

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  76. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Edward Budny
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=712399298940447&id=100005111508172

    Ted R. Weiland:
    Rule of Law! PROVIDED law is identified correctly.

    "...Isaiah 33:22 and James 4:12 declare that Yahweh is the exclusive legislator. There are no others, period! Anyone who claims the title of legislator (particularly when his “laws”—whether commandments, statutes, or judgments—are inconsonant with Yahweh’s) is a usurper and is perpetuating the sin begun by Adam and Eve. The same is true for any one of us who would modify Yahweh’s triune law.

    "Any legislation antithetical to Yahweh’s turns evil to good and good to evil (Isaiah 5:20). When man rejects Yahweh’s standard of morality, it is inevitable he will make legal what Yahweh has made unlawful (e.g., infanticide and sodomy) and make illegal what Yahweh has made lawful (e.g., monotheistic Christianity outside the four walls of church buildings).

    "Yahweh is the only lawgiver because as Creator He’s the only one with the authority to determine what is good and evil. His morals as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments determine what is right and left. Anything left of His right(eousness) [including the Constitution and its corollary "laws"] is left, liberal, and ungodly...."

    For more, see blog article "Right, Left, and Center: Who Gets to Decide?" at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/right-left-and-center-who-gets-to-decide/.

    Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ConstitutionSurvey.html and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

    "...The power to declare war is a serious responsibility. Why were the framers so vague in defining the parameters of war and the conditions under which it could be declared? Section 8, Clause 11 is the only place of significance where warfare is mentioned in the Constitution. Little wonder this power has been abused. Luther Martin [one of Maryland's delegates to the Constitutional Convention] protested:

    '…the congress have also a power given them to raise and support armies, without any limitation as to numbers, and without any restriction in time of peace. Thus, sir, this plan of government, instead of guarding against a standing army, that engine of arbitrary power, which has so often and so successfully been used for the subversion of freedom, has in its formation given it an express and constitutional sanction….'40

    "John Quincy Adams predicted the consequences of America’s international military entanglements:
    'America … has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when the conflict has been for principles to which she clings…. Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.… She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors, and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force; the frontlet on her brow would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished luster, the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit.'41

    Because the framers provided no Biblical parameters, unbiblical warfare has been the rule ever since. Following is a list of the countries bombed by the United States since World War II....

    "From 1945 to the present, the United States has bombed nineteen different countries under the guise of defending America’s sovereignty and promoting democracy. But America is none the better for it, and not one of these countries has become a legitimate democracy – not that this would be anything to celebrate. Something is amiss. Wars fought for political gain or financial profit can only be classified as ungodly acts of aggression....

    "Without the constitutional [unbiblical] power to borrow, these and all subsequent ungodly wars could have perhaps been averted. ..."

    For more, see online Chapter 4 "Article 1: Legislative Usurpation" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt4.html.

    LAUGH OUT LOUD

    This isn’t a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?

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    This isn’t a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?
     
    ...because of Godless heathens such as yourself, we have lost our nation.
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  77. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @anarchyst
    The major "problem" with evangelical Christians is that many of them consider Jews to be "the Chosen People", to be elevated to the status of "near Gods" that can do no wrong.
    Their elevation of the land of Israel to that of "holy real estate" is sickening.
    Their slavish adoration of Israelis, and especially Israeli political figures is beyond insane.
    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
    If Christians knew what Jews REALLY think of them, they would not be so accommodating.
    In fact, in many cases, Moslems have more respect for Christians.
    Compare the attitudes that Jews and Moslems have for Jesus Christ...
    Jews consider Jesus Christ to be an apostate that is boiling in excrement for eternity while stating that his mother Mary was a harlot who consorted with a Roman soldier. The Jewish Talmud states as such.
    Moslems consider Jesus Christ to be a great prophet--not the "Son of God", but a great prophet nevertheless, while his mother Mary is given a place of high honor, being specifically mentioned in the Qur'an...
    Now which "faith" has greater respect for Christianity?

    The Evangelical worship of Jews is bad. But even worse is their crusade against abortion. We’re it not for abortion blacks would be 30 percent of the population instead of 12.5. That 12.5 causes 80 percent of the problems yet the Evangelicals want to end abortion.

    The southern baptists just had their convention. They passed a resolution condemning all Whites for racism. The southern Christians also send their teens and young people to Haiti every summer to pretend to help Haiti recover from some earthquake or hurricane or something 20 years ago. They also adopt Haitian babies

    They are as anti White as BLM, LARAZA SPLC ADL and AJC

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  78. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Daniel Chieh
    China has pretty close relations with Russia, and they are part of the world, to my knowledge.

    No. China doesn’t exist, actually. It’s a lie. You may think your ancestors were from there, but they are actually just French Canadians with funny makeup.

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    Seems like I married true to my bloodline.
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  79. @Anon
    No. China doesn't exist, actually. It's a lie. You may think your ancestors were from there, but they are actually just French Canadians with funny makeup.

    Seems like I married true to my bloodline.

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  80. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    Jesus, you're a moron

    Hey Zionist, I beat you and your impossible ’6M’ to a pulp every time.

    Examples forth coming. LOL!

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  81. Wally says: • Website
    @Rurik
    Wally, if you're reading this, I'm not against you

    I agree with most of your points

    I do believe the Holocaust was widely exaggerated and used as a blood libel against the German race (for perpetuity) and also to genocide an innocent people who had nothing to do with it

    OK?

    I was joking about Pat being an anti-Semite. (That's part of my schtick from time to time, I'm trying to inject some humor ; )

    sorry for the misunderstanding

    ~ trying to make Peace

    Spoken like a gentlemen, cheers.

    My point is that unless the fraudulent ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ is discussed & exposed for the scam that it is, nothing will change for the better.

    “Every discussion leads to Auschwitz”.

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  82. utu says:
    @Talha
    Hey utu,

    Most importantly do not forget about USSR that was the biggest supporter of creation of Israel.
     
    Did not know this. Do you have a quick reference for this?

    Peace.

    Soviet diplomacy leading to creation of Israel

    https://www.marxists.org/subject/jewish/soviets-israel.pdf

    Support of communist Poland

    http://embassies.gov.il/WARSAW-EN/RELATIONS/HISTORY-OF-RELATIONS/Pages/il-pl-history.aspx

    The Polish authorities allowed carrying out training for recruits to armed Zionist organizations, who later fought for the independence of Israel. In late 1947 and 1948 in the Lower Silesia city of Bolkow about 2,500 Jews participated in such military trainings.

    Poland took the pro-Israeli position in two key moments – during a vote in the UN on the 29th of November 1947 Poland supported the idea of division of the territory of Mandate Palestine into Jewish and Arab, and after Israel’s declaration of independence in May 1948, Poland was one of the first to recognize the new state and to establish diplomatic relations with it. On September 29, 1948 first Israeli diplomatic mission arrived to Poland.​

    [MORE]

    Military support from communist Czechoslovakia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_shipments_from_Czechoslovakia_to_Israel_1947–49

    Total deliveries (confirmed until October 1948)
    Infantry weapons
    34,500 P-18 rifles
    5,515 MG 34 machine guns with 10,000 ammo belts
    10,000 vz.24 bayonets
    900 vz. 37 heavy machine guns
    500 vz. 27 pistols
    12 ZK-383 submachine guns
    10 ZK 420 semi-automatic rifles
    500 vz. 26 light machine guns (shipped, yet delivery not confirmed in Czech sources)
    Infantry ammunition
    91,500,000 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridges
    15,000,000 9mm Parabellum cartridges
    375,000 13mm cartridges for MG 131
    150,000 20mm cartridges for MG 151
    375,000 7.65mm cartridges for vz. 27 pistol
    Aircraft

    Israeli Avia S-199, 1948
    25 Avia S-199 fighters
    61 Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX fighters

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    " The Kremlin reacted cautiously.
    On 31 August, 1942, a Russian delegation headed by
    Sergei Mikhailov, the first secretary of the Ankara embassy, arrived in Palestine and
    met the leadership of the Yishuv.
    Their interest in Palestine, however, remained negligible.
    Faithful to the spirit of collaboration with their Allies, they continued to press
    for Arab Jewish reconciliation.
    But each of the new encounters brought home to Moscow the increasing disillusionment of the Jewish population with the British Mandate, intensified by the issue of the White Paper of 1939 which curtailed Jewish immigration to Palestine. "
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  83. Don Bacon says:

    The US screwed the pooch with Operation Iraqi Freedom, stupidly converting Iraq from Iran enemy to Iran ally. Now the US must make amends, which first included ISIS as a splintering force breaking the Iran-Iraq-Syria “Shia Crescent” connecting to Hezbollah in Lebanon, and when that didn’t work out, using US military forces to do the job. So now look for the US to do whatever is necessary to install a permanent force in the area, under the cover of “annihilation tactics” against the Islamic State.
    The “Carter Doctrine” lives on, with ten thousand US forces in the Gulf area to support it. But there needs to be a US ground presence as well, in Iraq and Syria, with Iran as Middle East Enemy #1. The little country smaller than New Jersey with fewer people demands that Persia (Iran) and its interests be attacked in any way possible with every possible ally. To disagree is antisemitic.

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  84. “Our friends in ME?” Really Pat? One is our colonial master. Colonies were established to fund an Empire, where the Emperor and his subject enjoyed the highest standard of life available with little or no effort. Even wars and sacrifices were done by the colonized. The colonized had little or no voice on the Emperor’s decrees. Does this sound familiar? The other one(s) are slaves of the colony. As everyone knows slaves are considered property, they are expendable, their “master” can do whatever it pleases the Emperor, and sometimes the Emperor expect a form of punishment or total annihilation of any slave that goes out of line (Iraq and Saddam, now Qatar, Panama, Guatemala….). Those that resist this enslavement are now destroyed (Libya, Syria, Afghanistan…..), or are on target to destruction (IRAN). The greedy and blood-thirsty Emperor is not going to be satisfied unless his orders are fully carried out. Even if that means losing the colony and its slaves, and maybe lose his crown and his head.
    His greed knows no limits or common sense. The colonized are well groomed, brainwashed, and will not hesitate for a second to die for the Empire and the Emperor.
    The scenario here can only be found in ancient myths!!!!
    But, alas, this is no myth, its as true as the air we breath……

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  85. It’s no longer about the Left vs the Right. Long ago, even leftists were patriots. New Deal was for Americans Only, and the French Communist Party was anti-immigration and for the French Working Class.

    So, the victory of the Left was not an ‘existential’ threat to the nation. French Revolution didn’t destroy France. Labour governments in the past didn’t destroy Great Britain. And even though far-leftist communism was terrible, it still preserved the peoples and cultures of various nations such as Russia, Hungary, Poland, Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, and etc.

    The Left called for more power to the working class of the nation. It didn’t call for the replacement of native folks with invasive foreign masses. So, regardless of political victory, left or right, the nation was preserved in terms of racial, cultural, and historical integrity.

    Also, the Left used to be anti-imperialist and pro-nationalist. It championed the right of Third World peoples to cast off the yoke of Western Imperialism and amass their own power in their own nations, ancient or new.

    That was then, this is now. Today, what is called the ‘left’ has nothing to do with the Classic Left. It is globalist, controlled by Jewish-Homo oligarchs, and seeks to destroy the ethnic/cultural/historical character of every nation. It is like Ugly Americanism on steroids. It is rude, intrusive, and arrogant. It goes to EVERY nation(except Israel) and demands that it ‘welcome’ endless immigration-invasion, even to the point of having the native folks(with deep roots in the soil) be REPLACED by others.

    This new ‘left’ isn’t about economic policy or workers’ rights. Its Sorosian Agenda is to destroy the unique ethnic/cultural/territorial character of every nation.

    When the Old Left won, it meant a change in economic policy. It didn’t destruction of the nation’s sense of history, identity, and territory.
    But, if the globalist ‘left’ wins, it means your nation is lost forever. Worse, this globalist agenda of Replacism is pushed not only by these ‘new leftists’ but by neo-liberals and neo-conservatives who see no value in the preservation of History, Identity, Territory(or HIT), except in Israel of course.

    The victory of this Sorosian ‘left’ means your nation is gone forever, and your people have been REPLACED by foreign masses who, btw, came to your nation not out of respect or admiration but parasitic self-interest.

    History, Identity, and Territory. HIT, that is the essence of a nation. Be a HITTER against the REPLACISTS. The so-called ‘new left’ of REPLACISTS says your nation doesn’t belong to your people. It says your nation belongs to the globalist oligarchs(like George Soros) and their Replacist hordes.

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    It goes to EVERY nation(except Israel) and demands that it ‘welcome’ endless immigration-invasion, even to the point of having the native folks(with deep roots in the soil) be REPLACED by others.
     
    https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supremacists-adopt-new-slogan-you-will-not-replace-us
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  86. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @NoseytheDuke
    Speaking of embarrassing...
    https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/gallery/2017/jun/20/milan-ease-seven-key-collections-from-the-springsummer-2018-shows

    Don’t be shy. I thought you looked very cute – prudently photoshopped of course these days. It reminded me of the time you got your first flares.

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  87. RobinG says:
    @Exiled off mainstreet
    We would all lose a war with Russia even if we "won" at the price of a nuclear exchange. As the article indicates, it is illegal and not authorized by congress, though I am afraid the Israeli influenced congress would authorize such lunacy if it were demanded. Frankly we seem to swirling down a fatal drain with no way to stop this process. The rule of law and republican government appear to be a thing of the past in the yankee imperium.

    CLINTON & SOROS COUP: 2017 AMERICAN SPRING ……

    UKRAINE FACILITATED DNC’s 2016 BLACKMAIL of TRUMP

    Ukraine provided DNC with fake Manafort accusations in conspiracy to derail Trump. In effort to steal election, DNC made false allegations of Trump-Russian connections which have also poisoned US-Russia relations in new Trump administration and stoked impeachment fever. Anti-Russian hysteria has killed Syria & Iran diplomacy, pleasing Israel.

    Follow closely the timeline, and smoking-gun email from Alexandra Chalupa. Great journalism by Lee Stranahan. This story is HUGE. Please Tweet it out.

    UNREAL: The real election interference scandal HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT

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  88. @utu
    Soviet diplomacy leading to creation of Israel
    https://www.marxists.org/subject/jewish/soviets-israel.pdf

    Support of communist Poland
    http://embassies.gov.il/WARSAW-EN/RELATIONS/HISTORY-OF-RELATIONS/Pages/il-pl-history.aspx

    The Polish authorities allowed carrying out training for recruits to armed Zionist organizations, who later fought for the independence of Israel. In late 1947 and 1948 in the Lower Silesia city of Bolkow about 2,500 Jews participated in such military trainings.

    Poland took the pro-Israeli position in two key moments – during a vote in the UN on the 29th of November 1947 Poland supported the idea of division of the territory of Mandate Palestine into Jewish and Arab, and after Israel's declaration of independence in May 1948, Poland was one of the first to recognize the new state and to establish diplomatic relations with it. On September 29, 1948 first Israeli diplomatic mission arrived to Poland.​
     

    Military support from communist Czechoslovakia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_shipments_from_Czechoslovakia_to_Israel_1947–49

    Total deliveries (confirmed until October 1948)
    Infantry weapons
    34,500 P-18 rifles
    5,515 MG 34 machine guns with 10,000 ammo belts
    10,000 vz.24 bayonets
    900 vz. 37 heavy machine guns
    500 vz. 27 pistols
    12 ZK-383 submachine guns
    10 ZK 420 semi-automatic rifles
    500 vz. 26 light machine guns (shipped, yet delivery not confirmed in Czech sources)
    Infantry ammunition
    91,500,000 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridges
    15,000,000 9mm Parabellum cartridges
    375,000 13mm cartridges for MG 131
    150,000 20mm cartridges for MG 151
    375,000 7.65mm cartridges for vz. 27 pistol
    Aircraft

    Israeli Avia S-199, 1948
    25 Avia S-199 fighters
    61 Supermarine Spitfire Mk. IX fighters

     

    ” The Kremlin reacted cautiously.
    On 31 August, 1942, a Russian delegation headed by
    Sergei Mikhailov, the first secretary of the Ankara embassy, arrived in Palestine and
    met the leadership of the Yishuv.
    Their interest in Palestine, however, remained negligible.
    Faithful to the spirit of collaboration with their Allies, they continued to press
    for Arab Jewish reconciliation.
    But each of the new encounters brought home to Moscow the increasing disillusionment of the Jewish population with the British Mandate, intensified by the issue of the White Paper of 1939 which curtailed Jewish immigration to Palestine. “

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  89. @Darin
    People were saying before 1914 that war between great powers would not make any sense, would be unwinnable and therefore will not happen.

    And, unlike WWI, WWIII can be started by one man pushing the button ( and few tens of people following orders)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_close_calls

    WWI, WWII and WWIII (of which we are currently in the economic and propaganda phase) are really all the same conflict with mere pauses for consolidation and redeployments and instigated by the same interests as part of a long term strategy.

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    I recall that one of your old friends keeps on slandering you as an alcoholic but that post does rather conjure up a picture of Colonel Blimp desperately trying to get the young to gather round his leather chair before the (genuine log) fire in the club smoking room. Or maybe the bat crazy wanting to be recognised as the latterday Napoleon who can save the world.

    Do please elaborate, starting with identifying and describing "the same interests" and "the long term strategy" (including the so far unmentioned parts of it). How do you think they are going? Assuming the Chinese and Indians are not part of that, do you think they will go along with it?

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  90. @Wally
    Strawman, strawman, and all that from someone who laughably claimed I was a Zionist agent. LOL !!!

    Please note that I respond in kind.
    If the impossible '6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers' is invoked, and it was, please review the relevant posts, then I will respond accordingly.
    You may not like it, but too bad, you cannot stop me.

    I continue to note your dodging, fear of debate, and attempts to suppress free speech.

    And please, do not pretend to be a spokesman for www.unz.com, besides, you're in over your head.


    The embarrassing high school-like drama of Nazi human skin lampshades & shrunken heads stagecraft is absolutely exposed here for the fraud that it is.
    Buchenwald—A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1529/
    more here:
    Nazi Shrunken Heads
    A 24-minute free video about lies which justify war
    http://codoh.com/library/document/1528/
    and:
    Buchenwald: Legend and Reality
    http://codoh.com/library/document/180/?lang=en
    and:
    The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies
    http://codoh.com/library/document/865/?lang=en

    Wakey, wakey Wally. I understood that the person calling you a zionist agent was implying that your posts add weight to the claim that some people hate all Jews just for being Jews and that helps to garner support for the more radical, Likud type, zionist elements. Know your enemy. Can you follow that?

    I also understood Rurik to be offering helpful advice to you by pointing out that your endless repetition does not serve your intentions. You could try posting various different facts that people might not know about and you also missed his sarcasm in the earlier #15 comment.

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  91. @Talha
    LOL! I love this guy - seriously - he takes trolling to a Olympic competitive level. Someone give this guy a prize! Honestly, ain't nobody better at UNZ than Tha Duck! And his posts are never more than a few short sentences - it's an art!

    Please keep posting here!

    Peace.

    Gosh, I really should invest in new reading glasses, all this time until I read your comment I thought it was Tiny Dick.

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    That would take his trolling to certified platinum status!!! LOL!

    Isn't he awesome though?

    Peace.

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  92. anarchyst says:
    @Rurik

    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
     
    that's what I mean by venal, anarchist

    and yet the congregations all seem too cowardly to even notice as the Christians are systematically cleansed from places like Bethlehem

    didn't Jerry Foulsmell fly around in a private jet provided as a gift (quid pro quo) by the Israeli government?

    I occasionally go to the Methodist church that I was raised in, and there- in glaring prominence on the alter- is a tapestry embroidered in a biblical-looking script the word 'Israel'

    I listen to Christian radio (Moody radio for instance) from time to time, (I also listen to NPR and all the other viewpoints I can absorb), and anyways, the 'Christians' are always waxing oh-so-reverentially over any Biblical references to "Israel'.

    The Zionists sure knew what they were doing by picking that particular piece of real-estate to terrorize the Muslims and Christians off of. But who'd have thought that the Christians would be that craven?! That they'd allow anything to be done to them and their nations by the forces of Zion so long as the shekels kept coming.

    I remember going into a Presbyterian Church with my devout mother when she came to visit, [God rest her saintly soul] and she knew my opinions about contrived wars for fun and profit, but she was hoping on this day that the sermon would be uplifting, instead it was a bloodthirsty call for vengeance in the holy land against modern day Muslims like the ones who had killed Jewish children in biblical times. (I swear I could hear the shekels clinking under his frock)

    I did what I could to act like it was nothing, but my mother was crestfallen. She so wanted me to be inspired! And instead she was ashamed.

    I don't seem to know of one major Christian leader who has or does speak out against the biblical levels of evil going on in the holy land and elsewhere. *Where are they*?!

    they're like our congress, and the European and Scandinavian governments.

    It seems like there is simply no Christian with the integrity to take on these netherworld demons who slaughter and maim in the holiest place on earth, and mock all notions of a just God, right to His face. And his flock are all like Peter, and deny and deny and deny.. Nay, they're like Judas, and take their sack of 30 shekels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3cY5n7v9X8

    I suppose that's one reason I like Pat Buchanan. At least he has the brains and balls to tell the oblique truth. Even if in veiled language.

    Even the Catholic Church was infiltrated by Vatican II absolving the Jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ.
    Jews DID take full responsibility…

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    absolving the Jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ
     
    well, I don't blame them for that, but I do blame them (those who're advocating assorted wars and also genocide in the holy land) for a lot of the misery and suffering today in the world.

    if the Christ stands for love and truth and peace, then yes, I would surely call them anti-Christs

    http://www.oneindia.com/img/2016/12/netanyahu-23-1482481413.jpg
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  93. Talha says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Gosh, I really should invest in new reading glasses, all this time until I read your comment I thought it was Tiny Dick.

    That would take his trolling to certified platinum status!!! LOL!

    Isn’t he awesome though?

    Peace.

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  94. Rurik says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    It's no longer about the Left vs the Right. Long ago, even leftists were patriots. New Deal was for Americans Only, and the French Communist Party was anti-immigration and for the French Working Class.

    So, the victory of the Left was not an 'existential' threat to the nation. French Revolution didn't destroy France. Labour governments in the past didn't destroy Great Britain. And even though far-leftist communism was terrible, it still preserved the peoples and cultures of various nations such as Russia, Hungary, Poland, Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, and etc.

    The Left called for more power to the working class of the nation. It didn't call for the replacement of native folks with invasive foreign masses. So, regardless of political victory, left or right, the nation was preserved in terms of racial, cultural, and historical integrity.

    Also, the Left used to be anti-imperialist and pro-nationalist. It championed the right of Third World peoples to cast off the yoke of Western Imperialism and amass their own power in their own nations, ancient or new.

    That was then, this is now. Today, what is called the 'left' has nothing to do with the Classic Left. It is globalist, controlled by Jewish-Homo oligarchs, and seeks to destroy the ethnic/cultural/historical character of every nation. It is like Ugly Americanism on steroids. It is rude, intrusive, and arrogant. It goes to EVERY nation(except Israel) and demands that it 'welcome' endless immigration-invasion, even to the point of having the native folks(with deep roots in the soil) be REPLACED by others.

    This new 'left' isn't about economic policy or workers' rights. Its Sorosian Agenda is to destroy the unique ethnic/cultural/territorial character of every nation.

    When the Old Left won, it meant a change in economic policy. It didn't destruction of the nation's sense of history, identity, and territory.
    But, if the globalist 'left' wins, it means your nation is lost forever. Worse, this globalist agenda of Replacism is pushed not only by these 'new leftists' but by neo-liberals and neo-conservatives who see no value in the preservation of History, Identity, Territory(or HIT), except in Israel of course.

    The victory of this Sorosian 'left' means your nation is gone forever, and your people have been REPLACED by foreign masses who, btw, came to your nation not out of respect or admiration but parasitic self-interest.

    History, Identity, and Territory. HIT, that is the essence of a nation. Be a HITTER against the REPLACISTS. The so-called 'new left' of REPLACISTS says your nation doesn't belong to your people. It says your nation belongs to the globalist oligarchs(like George Soros) and their Replacist hordes.

    It goes to EVERY nation(except Israel) and demands that it ‘welcome’ endless immigration-invasion, even to the point of having the native folks(with deep roots in the soil) be REPLACED by others.

    https://www.adl.org/blog/white-supremacists-adopt-new-slogan-you-will-not-replace-us

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  95. Rurik says: • Website
    @anarchyst
    Even the Catholic Church was infiltrated by Vatican II absolving the Jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ.
    Jews DID take full responsibility...

    absolving the Jews for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ

    well, I don’t blame them for that, but I do blame them (those who’re advocating assorted wars and also genocide in the holy land) for a lot of the misery and suffering today in the world.

    if the Christ stands for love and truth and peace, then yes, I would surely call them anti-Christs

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  96. @Rurik

    You can bet that evangelical pigs like Hagee and others are on the Israeli payroll.
     
    that's what I mean by venal, anarchist

    and yet the congregations all seem too cowardly to even notice as the Christians are systematically cleansed from places like Bethlehem

    didn't Jerry Foulsmell fly around in a private jet provided as a gift (quid pro quo) by the Israeli government?

    I occasionally go to the Methodist church that I was raised in, and there- in glaring prominence on the alter- is a tapestry embroidered in a biblical-looking script the word 'Israel'

    I listen to Christian radio (Moody radio for instance) from time to time, (I also listen to NPR and all the other viewpoints I can absorb), and anyways, the 'Christians' are always waxing oh-so-reverentially over any Biblical references to "Israel'.

    The Zionists sure knew what they were doing by picking that particular piece of real-estate to terrorize the Muslims and Christians off of. But who'd have thought that the Christians would be that craven?! That they'd allow anything to be done to them and their nations by the forces of Zion so long as the shekels kept coming.

    I remember going into a Presbyterian Church with my devout mother when she came to visit, [God rest her saintly soul] and she knew my opinions about contrived wars for fun and profit, but she was hoping on this day that the sermon would be uplifting, instead it was a bloodthirsty call for vengeance in the holy land against modern day Muslims like the ones who had killed Jewish children in biblical times. (I swear I could hear the shekels clinking under his frock)

    I did what I could to act like it was nothing, but my mother was crestfallen. She so wanted me to be inspired! And instead she was ashamed.

    I don't seem to know of one major Christian leader who has or does speak out against the biblical levels of evil going on in the holy land and elsewhere. *Where are they*?!

    they're like our congress, and the European and Scandinavian governments.

    It seems like there is simply no Christian with the integrity to take on these netherworld demons who slaughter and maim in the holiest place on earth, and mock all notions of a just God, right to His face. And his flock are all like Peter, and deny and deny and deny.. Nay, they're like Judas, and take their sack of 30 shekels

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3cY5n7v9X8

    I suppose that's one reason I like Pat Buchanan. At least he has the brains and balls to tell the oblique truth. Even if in veiled language.

    The scriptures plainly state that in the end times there would be many anti-christs- and also among them- there would be wolves in sheeps clothing. Obviously, Hagee is an example of this; so is a political organization such as the southern Baptist convention, as well as the “Presbyterian” church. I’ve pointed out the distinguishing features between Biblical Christianty vs. “cultural christianity” in prior posts to you…
    These “state churches” whether they be , catholic (or its daughters) lutheran, presb.,anglican, orthodox Greek or Russian- practice pedo baptism as opposed to credo baptism…

    In order to become a Christian one must profess a conviction of sin, and reliance on the grace of Christ’s substitutionary sacrifice with their mouth or heart! A baby can’t do this! A godfather or godmother cannot stand in corporately for you, for He is a personal God…then we are baptized symbolizing the death and resurrection of Christ in accordance with God’s ordinance.

    The scriptures state that the seed of Abraham will be gathered in lsrael prior to the tribulation. From this remnant some will accept Christ and be saved.

    The big surprise is that some “Palestinians”, many arabs, some Spaniards and portuguese, and of course some Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.

    Also, our tiny Indepedent Fundamental Baptist church has a missionary outpost in Ashdod, Israel. We are not a community- centered church; we are a Christ- centered church!

    P.s.
    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.

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    The scriptures plainly state
     
    Stonehands, I 'get' that you (and many others) consider the scriptures to be the 'begin all and end all' of truth and understanding, but are you able to reconcile yourself to the idea that there are others of good will who consider scripture to be one 'take' on truth, of many, and that while beautiful and often insightful and true in a poetic sort of way, there are a lot of people out there who don't consult scripture to finally understand the relationship between man and his maker?

    Are people who look to scripture more for spiritual guidance and support, but not as the absolute truth, damned~ to your mind?

    for He is a personal God
     
    I completely respect your absolute right to believe this and conduct your life accordingly, and to raise your children to believe it as well. Do you respect my right to view it as one of many religious truths, but perhaps not the only religions truth?

    Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.
     
    are you aware aren't you that the Ashkenazim Jews converted in Eastern Europe/Turkey in like the eighth or ninth century from phallic worshipers to Judaism for reasons of military expedience, aren't you? They have zero ancestral ties to the holy land.

    we are a Christ- centered church!
     
    isn't that true of any Christian who has a devout and pure heart, no matter where or even if it's just one person?

    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.
     
    what I find ironic about this is that modern day Israel is tossing the Christians out on their arses, and follow a religion that considers Jesus as a swine who's rotting in hell.

    How do you reconcile the biblical Israel with the reality of Israel?

    All my respect Stonehands. I ask these questions sincerely and respectfully. I consider your participation here as invaluable for your honest and uniquely vigorous perspective.
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  97. @Anonymous
    LAUGH OUT LOUD

    This isn't a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?

    This isn’t a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?

    …because of Godless heathens such as yourself, we have lost our nation.

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    Great article. Excuse me while I comment on these religious highjackers.

    It may not be verbatum. "If my kingdom was of this world we would take up arms and fight but my kingdom is not of this world."

    Christians allow themselves to be manipulated by Jews just many secular people's, ie. The U.S. Government and anyone else that will join "their cause ". Yet, some one individual once cautioned not to be "entangled in the cares of this world."

    The New Testament scholar knows that the God of the Jews rejected them and scattered them and accepts anyone, now, that embraces His plan of salvation. The Seed of Abraham receives NO position of favor and, in fact, have received "rejected" status.

    Israel is now secular, racist, and anathema. They now incite violence and murder and psyops, and the blood of other willing fools to achieve their Secular goals. And there are many fools.
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  98. Thirdeye says:

    IMO what the US has shown is severe underestimation of SAA’s operational capabilities. The diversionary attack at Dara’a and the occupation of Al Tanf were intended to divert SAA southward then block them out of Deir Ezzor. Instead, the attack at Dara’a got creamed and the SAA simply went around Al Tanf to the north. Now they’re blitzing into Deir Ezzor along the Syria-Iraq border. The move of SDF south of the Euphrates was intended to block SAA out of Raqqa from the east. They apparently were caught off guard by SAA’s ability to blitz out of southeastern Aleppo towards Resafa and by the time they realized that move was underway it was too late. Shooting down the airplane was a last-ditch move to slow them down when the game was already lost. Such underestimating is understandable; pretty much everybody watching the situation seems caught off guard by the capabilities SAA is showing after years of grindingly slow warfare. It has blown away the big assumption of US strategy for Jihadistan, that the SAA could only be effective in local battles and not in strategic moves. Now they can’t really counter them without engaging them directly, which would be an invitation to disaster.

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  99. Rurik says: • Website
    @Stonehands
    The scriptures plainly state that in the end times there would be many anti-christs- and also among them- there would be wolves in sheeps clothing. Obviously, Hagee is an example of this; so is a political organization such as the southern Baptist convention, as well as the "Presbyterian" church. I've pointed out the distinguishing features between Biblical Christianty vs. "cultural christianity" in prior posts to you...
    These "state churches" whether they be , catholic (or its daughters) lutheran, presb.,anglican, orthodox Greek or Russian- practice pedo baptism as opposed to credo baptism...

    In order to become a Christian one must profess a conviction of sin, and reliance on the grace of Christ's substitutionary sacrifice with their mouth or heart! A baby can't do this! A godfather or godmother cannot stand in corporately for you, for He is a personal God...then we are baptized symbolizing the death and resurrection of Christ in accordance with God's ordinance.

    The scriptures state that the seed of Abraham will be gathered in lsrael prior to the tribulation. From this remnant some will accept Christ and be saved.

    The big surprise is that some "Palestinians", many arabs, some Spaniards and portuguese, and of course some Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.

    Also, our tiny Indepedent Fundamental Baptist church has a missionary outpost in Ashdod, Israel. We are not a community- centered church; we are a Christ- centered church!

    P.s.
    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.

    The scriptures plainly state

    Stonehands, I ‘get’ that you (and many others) consider the scriptures to be the ‘begin all and end all’ of truth and understanding, but are you able to reconcile yourself to the idea that there are others of good will who consider scripture to be one ‘take’ on truth, of many, and that while beautiful and often insightful and true in a poetic sort of way, there are a lot of people out there who don’t consult scripture to finally understand the relationship between man and his maker?

    Are people who look to scripture more for spiritual guidance and support, but not as the absolute truth, damned~ to your mind?

    for He is a personal God

    I completely respect your absolute right to believe this and conduct your life accordingly, and to raise your children to believe it as well. Do you respect my right to view it as one of many religious truths, but perhaps not the only religions truth?

    Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.

    are you aware aren’t you that the Ashkenazim Jews converted in Eastern Europe/Turkey in like the eighth or ninth century from phallic worshipers to Judaism for reasons of military expedience, aren’t you? They have zero ancestral ties to the holy land.

    we are a Christ- centered church!

    isn’t that true of any Christian who has a devout and pure heart, no matter where or even if it’s just one person?

    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.

    what I find ironic about this is that modern day Israel is tossing the Christians out on their arses, and follow a religion that considers Jesus as a swine who’s rotting in hell.

    How do you reconcile the biblical Israel with the reality of Israel?

    All my respect Stonehands. I ask these questions sincerely and respectfully. I consider your participation here as invaluable for your honest and uniquely vigorous perspective.

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    When did you stop reading about Askenazi Jewish history after reading some potted summary of Arthur Koestler's nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in "The Thirteenth Tribe"? Even on UR you could have got the DNA based evidence from the likes of gcichran (presumably Greg Cochran of, inter alia,, the West Hunter blog). You could use Khazar as a search word too. My epiphany came after reading a silĺy article many years ago and suddenly asking "but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect"! The Ashkenazim are largely the descendants of Jewish merchants and tradesmen and local - probably Celtic - women in Northern Italy and other Western European areas like the Rhineland who lived in German(ic) speaking areas until they moved to the kingdom of Poland.
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  100. @Rurik

    The scriptures plainly state
     
    Stonehands, I 'get' that you (and many others) consider the scriptures to be the 'begin all and end all' of truth and understanding, but are you able to reconcile yourself to the idea that there are others of good will who consider scripture to be one 'take' on truth, of many, and that while beautiful and often insightful and true in a poetic sort of way, there are a lot of people out there who don't consult scripture to finally understand the relationship between man and his maker?

    Are people who look to scripture more for spiritual guidance and support, but not as the absolute truth, damned~ to your mind?

    for He is a personal God
     
    I completely respect your absolute right to believe this and conduct your life accordingly, and to raise your children to believe it as well. Do you respect my right to view it as one of many religious truths, but perhaps not the only religions truth?

    Ashkenazi are actual seed of Abraham.
     
    are you aware aren't you that the Ashkenazim Jews converted in Eastern Europe/Turkey in like the eighth or ninth century from phallic worshipers to Judaism for reasons of military expedience, aren't you? They have zero ancestral ties to the holy land.

    we are a Christ- centered church!
     
    isn't that true of any Christian who has a devout and pure heart, no matter where or even if it's just one person?

    God blesses those who bless Israel by preaching to them the saving grace of OUR Messiah.
     
    what I find ironic about this is that modern day Israel is tossing the Christians out on their arses, and follow a religion that considers Jesus as a swine who's rotting in hell.

    How do you reconcile the biblical Israel with the reality of Israel?

    All my respect Stonehands. I ask these questions sincerely and respectfully. I consider your participation here as invaluable for your honest and uniquely vigorous perspective.

    When did you stop reading about Askenazi Jewish history after reading some potted summary of Arthur Koestler’s nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in “The Thirteenth Tribe”? Even on UR you could have got the DNA based evidence from the likes of gcichran (presumably Greg Cochran of, inter alia,, the West Hunter blog). You could use Khazar as a search word too. My epiphany came after reading a silĺy article many years ago and suddenly asking “but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect”! The Ashkenazim are largely the descendants of Jewish merchants and tradesmen and local – probably Celtic – women in Northern Italy and other Western European areas like the Rhineland who lived in German(ic) speaking areas until they moved to the kingdom of Poland.

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    Hey wiz,

    I was just talking about you!

    I was telling one of the great commenters here that you're not an HIQI. And that you're no idiot at all! Isn't that something?

    my actual comments were..


    “I don’t consider the wiz to be an HIQI. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s a shill, a liar and a collaborator with the Zio-regime.”
     
    So you're being talked about even when you're not always on the thread! I suppose you ought to feel honored in a way, eh?

    Arthur Koestler’s nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in “The Thirteenth Tribe”?
     
    I've heard about that book, and its contents, but I never did read it. But then you don't have to, do you? All you have to do is look at an Ashkenazi Jew to see that they're white. They're European. They're often blond with blue eyes, like Goldie Hawn or Jerry Springer. Unlike the Sephardic Jews who're olive skinned with dark hair and eyes, which is what you'd expect from a people who herald from the Middle East.

    Didn't you ever notice that wiz? It's really pretty obvious when you think about it. I have relatives (by marriage) that are Jewish and whose ancestors are from Poland. Beautiful, (inside and out) blond Jews. But if you go back in their ancestry, you're not going to find any ancient ties to the holy land, because their aren't any. Duh Nothing to wring your hands over, unless you're trying to dishonestly tell the inhabitants of their lands that their lands don't belong to them, but to you! because 'god gave you the land' 2000+ years ago, blah, blah, blah..

    Now if you're an Ashkenazi Jew, that's going to be a hard sell, yes? Since there were very few Poles or Ukrainians or Lithuanians or Russians in Jerusalem between the years 400 and 100 BC, when most of that (tripe) was written.


    “but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect”!
     
    they settled in Germany, (who wouldn't) because the German people were as kind and welcoming in those days are they are today. The Germans are historically renowned for their generosity and civilized ways, so it was a natural place for them to congregate. Soon enough, they picked up the language. There was also no doubt some mixing, but that certainly would not account for the white skin and fair features of these unique peoples. They're a European/Turkish people, born and bread on the Eurasian Steppe. Caught in-between Mongol hoards, Russian Tsars, Roman emperors and assorted hostile locals, they were war-like and proud. Sometime during the Byzantine empire, they converted to Judaism, on orders of their king, it is believed because they were menaced by Christians in one direction, and Muslims in the other, and so they decided to become 'Jews! and therefor hold on to their identity, that they've remarkably and admirably managed to do ever since.

    So there you have it wiz, a history of your people!

    ~ you're welcome

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  101. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @NoseytheDuke
    WWI, WWII and WWIII (of which we are currently in the economic and propaganda phase) are really all the same conflict with mere pauses for consolidation and redeployments and instigated by the same interests as part of a long term strategy.

    I recall that one of your old friends keeps on slandering you as an alcoholic but that post does rather conjure up a picture of Colonel Blimp desperately trying to get the young to gather round his leather chair before the (genuine log) fire in the club smoking room. Or maybe the bat crazy wanting to be recognised as the latterday Napoleon who can save the world.

    Do please elaborate, starting with identifying and describing “the same interests” and “the long term strategy” (including the so far unmentioned parts of it). How do you think they are going? Assuming the Chinese and Indians are not part of that, do you think they will go along with it?

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  102. Rurik says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    When did you stop reading about Askenazi Jewish history after reading some potted summary of Arthur Koestler's nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in "The Thirteenth Tribe"? Even on UR you could have got the DNA based evidence from the likes of gcichran (presumably Greg Cochran of, inter alia,, the West Hunter blog). You could use Khazar as a search word too. My epiphany came after reading a silĺy article many years ago and suddenly asking "but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect"! The Ashkenazim are largely the descendants of Jewish merchants and tradesmen and local - probably Celtic - women in Northern Italy and other Western European areas like the Rhineland who lived in German(ic) speaking areas until they moved to the kingdom of Poland.

    Hey wiz,

    I was just talking about you!

    I was telling one of the great commenters here that you’re not an HIQI. And that you’re no idiot at all! Isn’t that something?

    my actual comments were..

    “I don’t consider the wiz to be an HIQI. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s a shill, a liar and a collaborator with the Zio-regime.”

    So you’re being talked about even when you’re not always on the thread! I suppose you ought to feel honored in a way, eh?

    Arthur Koestler’s nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in “The Thirteenth Tribe”?

    I’ve heard about that book, and its contents, but I never did read it. But then you don’t have to, do you? All you have to do is look at an Ashkenazi Jew to see that they’re white. They’re European. They’re often blond with blue eyes, like Goldie Hawn or Jerry Springer. Unlike the Sephardic Jews who’re olive skinned with dark hair and eyes, which is what you’d expect from a people who herald from the Middle East.

    Didn’t you ever notice that wiz? It’s really pretty obvious when you think about it. I have relatives (by marriage) that are Jewish and whose ancestors are from Poland. Beautiful, (inside and out) blond Jews. But if you go back in their ancestry, you’re not going to find any ancient ties to the holy land, because their aren’t any. Duh Nothing to wring your hands over, unless you’re trying to dishonestly tell the inhabitants of their lands that their lands don’t belong to them, but to you! because ‘god gave you the land’ 2000+ years ago, blah, blah, blah..

    Now if you’re an Ashkenazi Jew, that’s going to be a hard sell, yes? Since there were very few Poles or Ukrainians or Lithuanians or Russians in Jerusalem between the years 400 and 100 BC, when most of that (tripe) was written.

    “but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect”!

    they settled in Germany, (who wouldn’t) because the German people were as kind and welcoming in those days are they are today. The Germans are historically renowned for their generosity and civilized ways, so it was a natural place for them to congregate. Soon enough, they picked up the language. There was also no doubt some mixing, but that certainly would not account for the white skin and fair features of these unique peoples. They’re a European/Turkish people, born and bread on the Eurasian Steppe. Caught in-between Mongol hoards, Russian Tsars, Roman emperors and assorted hostile locals, they were war-like and proud. Sometime during the Byzantine empire, they converted to Judaism, on orders of their king, it is believed because they were menaced by Christians in one direction, and Muslims in the other, and so they decided to become ‘Jews! and therefor hold on to their identity, that they’ve remarkably and admirably managed to do ever since.

    So there you have it wiz, a history of your people!

    ~ you’re welcome

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    Hello Rurik,

    You might have added that the Jews were expelled from many European countries many times over - sometimes repeatedly from the same country - for some reason. The Gipsies who have roamed Europe for as long as the Jews were tolerated, left alone, and there were no official mass expulsions against them, although the Moors were expelled from Spain in the 1490s. Eventually they were accepted in large numbers by the Dutch Republic ( the Jews expelled from Portugal were familiar with the thrust for overseas expansion and commerce and helped the Dutch trading enterprise) and from there to other countries from England to Russia thanks to their trading and allied banking networks. Obviously, many locals "converted" to Judaism for opportunistic joining of the bandwagon for personal gain in the emerging mercantile capitalism. It may also be opportune to remember that modern capitalism took off from Holland, Northeast France, England and Germany (Hanseatic League) where Jews congregated to form their own trading and financial groups culminating with the creation of the first national banks, issuing paper money and financing wars.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    You confirm that you have relied on some potted summary of the theory espoused by Koestler (though he probably didn't invent it). Apparently only the Khazar royal family (and no doubt some nobles and court officers) converted. The beginnings of Jews in Europe were amongst the Celts, including in the Rhineland before the Germans got there. But are you so immodest about your knowledge that you make no attempt to check with a scholar who really knows his stuff like Greg Cochran as I suggested? Have you heard of DNA since you closed your mind to new knowledge? Indeed Ashkenazi are 40 to 60 per cent European by descent but not Turkic.
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  103. Parfois says:
    @Felix Keverich
    My reading of this situation is that Putin wants to avoid a direct confrontation with the US. What we should be worried about is a proxy war between US and Iran in the Middle East. Russia will assist Iran.

    Iran via proxies is trying to take control Syria-Iraq border to establish a land bridge from Lebanon to Iran. US is trying to stop it with airstrikes. Iranians appear committed however, and American attacks did not deter them thus far. If US decides to push this confrontation futher, Iranians have the means to retaliate against US forces in Syria and Iraq.

    Why does Iran need such corridor? Where is the source of such Iranian plan? If you bothered to look at the map, you might be able to see that there is no potential corridor from “controlling the Syria-Iraq border”, which is 600 km and does not lead to Lebanon at all unless you mean the “all roads lead to Rome” adage. If there is such a potential corridor, it is between Iraq and Turkey.

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    You're the one who needs to look at a map!
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  104. Parfois says:
    @Rurik
    Hey Talha,

    This probably goes all the way back to Gulf War I.
     
    WWI actually, when the deal was made vis-a-vis the Balfour Declaration, that guaranteed that the British would hand over Palestine to the Zionists if the Jews in the US used their newspapers and influence to drag America into the war on England's side.

    We've been fighting their wars for them ever since, with a few dalliances of the MIC's own in places like Southeast Asia or S. America.


    What does it matter to the American taxpayer that some two-bit Kuwaiti monarchy was restored? Getting Saddam to back off could likely have been accomplished with international sanctions
     
    the whole point was to get Saddam to attack Kuwait in order to act all outraged and demand that 'this will not stand!". And why? To destroy the military capability that the US had created in Iraq so long as it was being used on Iran. When the war between Iraq and Iran ended, Saddam's good buddy George H. W. Bush used his diplomat to tell Saddam that the US had 'no interest between inter-Arab quarrels, and that Saddam had a green light to attack Kuwait.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU1xq2_4lHE

    Then came the 'outrage' over the 'baby incubators' and the rest is history.

    Peace

    Good reply to repose historical facts in the minds of those less acquainted with recent history. Indeed, Kuwait was a trap for Saddam and the opening to start the New World Order project to dismantle all non-vassal states, especially the ones opposed to Jewish domination of the ME.

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  105. Parfois says:
    @Contraviews
    If we want to preserve the world from total annihilation Russia, China, Iran, Turkey and even North Korea should go into an alliance and proclaim that an attack on one of them is regarded as an attack on all.

    Fully agree with you. The Yankee regime uses NATO as a figleaf to cover its ambitions and crimes because there is no “Warsaw Treaty” counterpoint to limit its voracious greed. Basically it is free to roam the world at will because it is not answerable to international law, common decency or some other power. Besides, it is free to pick and choose its victims because the only country capable to say Nyet (as the Soviet Union often did) acquiesces instead of remembering the lessons of history, the most recent the Nazi aggression when the British and French signed the Munich Treaty with Hitler and avoided at all costs a defence alliance with Stalin, obviously hoping to steer the Chancellor to the East. Smacks of appeasement once again and all it does to encourage the aggressor to move on the next domino (Iran) under the supposed fear that a robust response to Yankee aggression will lead to WWIII. The bluff is working and one wonders why it does not work the other way, that is, why the Yankees don’t fear WWIII?

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  106. Parfois says:
    @jilles dykstra
    It has been asserted that jews with Chrustjow murdered Stalin.

    Yes, there are many suspicions about the death of Stalin. He was alone in the dacha (not his as the western propaganda says – he had no property apart from basic household goods) and the head of his bodyguard called he Kremlin concerning his condition. Khrushchev and Beria came and found him unconscious but told the guards there was nothing wrong, that he was asleep.

    At the time of his death Stalin was promoting Kirichenko (?) as his preferred successor ahead of Malenkov (then the chairman of the Council of Ministers) and Khrushchev was far from being considered leadership material, in fact he was derided as a clownish sycophant by other Politburo members). There was also in motion an investigation into a series of deaths of high party officials suspected of being organised poisonings by doctors (the White Frocks Conspiracy). This investigation came to an abrupt halt after Stalin’s death.

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  107. Parfois says:
    @Rurik
    Hey wiz,

    I was just talking about you!

    I was telling one of the great commenters here that you're not an HIQI. And that you're no idiot at all! Isn't that something?

    my actual comments were..


    “I don’t consider the wiz to be an HIQI. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s a shill, a liar and a collaborator with the Zio-regime.”
     
    So you're being talked about even when you're not always on the thread! I suppose you ought to feel honored in a way, eh?

    Arthur Koestler’s nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in “The Thirteenth Tribe”?
     
    I've heard about that book, and its contents, but I never did read it. But then you don't have to, do you? All you have to do is look at an Ashkenazi Jew to see that they're white. They're European. They're often blond with blue eyes, like Goldie Hawn or Jerry Springer. Unlike the Sephardic Jews who're olive skinned with dark hair and eyes, which is what you'd expect from a people who herald from the Middle East.

    Didn't you ever notice that wiz? It's really pretty obvious when you think about it. I have relatives (by marriage) that are Jewish and whose ancestors are from Poland. Beautiful, (inside and out) blond Jews. But if you go back in their ancestry, you're not going to find any ancient ties to the holy land, because their aren't any. Duh Nothing to wring your hands over, unless you're trying to dishonestly tell the inhabitants of their lands that their lands don't belong to them, but to you! because 'god gave you the land' 2000+ years ago, blah, blah, blah..

    Now if you're an Ashkenazi Jew, that's going to be a hard sell, yes? Since there were very few Poles or Ukrainians or Lithuanians or Russians in Jerusalem between the years 400 and 100 BC, when most of that (tripe) was written.


    “but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect”!
     
    they settled in Germany, (who wouldn't) because the German people were as kind and welcoming in those days are they are today. The Germans are historically renowned for their generosity and civilized ways, so it was a natural place for them to congregate. Soon enough, they picked up the language. There was also no doubt some mixing, but that certainly would not account for the white skin and fair features of these unique peoples. They're a European/Turkish people, born and bread on the Eurasian Steppe. Caught in-between Mongol hoards, Russian Tsars, Roman emperors and assorted hostile locals, they were war-like and proud. Sometime during the Byzantine empire, they converted to Judaism, on orders of their king, it is believed because they were menaced by Christians in one direction, and Muslims in the other, and so they decided to become 'Jews! and therefor hold on to their identity, that they've remarkably and admirably managed to do ever since.

    So there you have it wiz, a history of your people!

    ~ you're welcome

    Hello Rurik,

    You might have added that the Jews were expelled from many European countries many times over – sometimes repeatedly from the same country – for some reason. The Gipsies who have roamed Europe for as long as the Jews were tolerated, left alone, and there were no official mass expulsions against them, although the Moors were expelled from Spain in the 1490s. Eventually they were accepted in large numbers by the Dutch Republic ( the Jews expelled from Portugal were familiar with the thrust for overseas expansion and commerce and helped the Dutch trading enterprise) and from there to other countries from England to Russia thanks to their trading and allied banking networks. Obviously, many locals “converted” to Judaism for opportunistic joining of the bandwagon for personal gain in the emerging mercantile capitalism. It may also be opportune to remember that modern capitalism took off from Holland, Northeast France, England and Germany (Hanseatic League) where Jews congregated to form their own trading and financial groups culminating with the creation of the first national banks, issuing paper money and financing wars.

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    excellent points Parfois,

    although the Moors were expelled from Spain in the 1490s.
     
    I've often read that the Moors were allowed into Spain in the first place by disloyal Jews who had risen to places of prominence and trust in Spain, and then assisted with the Moorish invasion by 'opening up the gates of Spain'

    a lazy web search provides this for instance

    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/11/yes-breitbart-jews-did-open-gates.html

    it's not for nothing that when Saint Isabella cleansed Iberia of the invading Muslim hoards, it was with great difficulty that they tried to sift between who were loyal Spanish Jews and who had treachery in their hearts for the Christian peoples and culture of Europa. How little things change, eh?

    modern capitalism took off from Holland, Northeast France, England and Germany (Hanseatic League) where Jews congregated to form their own trading and financial groups culminating with the creation of the first national banks, issuing paper money and financing wars.
     
    before NYC was called New York City, it was known as New Amsterdam.

    from Wiki


    The first Jews known to have lived in New Amsterdam arrived in 1654. First to arrive were Solomon Pietersen and Jacob Barsimson, who sailed in the summer of 1654 directly from Holland, with passports that gave them permission to trade in the colony.[16] Then in early September, 23 Jewish refugees arrived from the formerly Dutch city of Recife, which had been conquered by the Portuguese in January of that year.[17] The director of New Amsterdam, Peter Stuyvesant, sought to turn them away but was ultimately overruled by the directors of the Dutch West India Company in Amsterdam.[18] Asser Levy, an Ashkenazi Jew who was one of the 23 refugees, eventually prospered and in 1661 became the first Jew to own a house in New Amsterdam, which also made him the first Jew known to have owned a house anywhere in North America.[19]

    In 1661 the Communipaw ferry was founded and began a long history of trans-Hudson ferry and ultimately rail and road transportation. [20]

    On September 15, 1655, New Amsterdam was attacked by 2,000 Indians as part of the Peach Tree War, who destroyed 28 farms, killed 100 settlers, and took 150 prisoners.
     
    just some history for those interested..

    eventually these remarkable people came to dominate this financial hub of the planet almost exclusivity. Wall Street today is as controlled by Jews as effectively as Hollywood.

    and you and I are sitting at our computers ruminating on what it all means, and what it bodes for the rest of us; that these extraordinary people have achieved such prominence and influence over our destinies
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  108. RobinG says:
    @Parfois
    Why does Iran need such corridor? Where is the source of such Iranian plan? If you bothered to look at the map, you might be able to see that there is no potential corridor from "controlling the Syria-Iraq border", which is 600 km and does not lead to Lebanon at all unless you mean the "all roads lead to Rome" adage. If there is such a potential corridor, it is between Iraq and Turkey.

    You’re the one who needs to look at a map!

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  109. @Rurik
    Hey wiz,

    I was just talking about you!

    I was telling one of the great commenters here that you're not an HIQI. And that you're no idiot at all! Isn't that something?

    my actual comments were..


    “I don’t consider the wiz to be an HIQI. He knows exactly what he’s doing. He’s a shill, a liar and a collaborator with the Zio-regime.”
     
    So you're being talked about even when you're not always on the thread! I suppose you ought to feel honored in a way, eh?

    Arthur Koestler’s nutty attempt to counter anti-Semitism in “The Thirteenth Tribe”?
     
    I've heard about that book, and its contents, but I never did read it. But then you don't have to, do you? All you have to do is look at an Ashkenazi Jew to see that they're white. They're European. They're often blond with blue eyes, like Goldie Hawn or Jerry Springer. Unlike the Sephardic Jews who're olive skinned with dark hair and eyes, which is what you'd expect from a people who herald from the Middle East.

    Didn't you ever notice that wiz? It's really pretty obvious when you think about it. I have relatives (by marriage) that are Jewish and whose ancestors are from Poland. Beautiful, (inside and out) blond Jews. But if you go back in their ancestry, you're not going to find any ancient ties to the holy land, because their aren't any. Duh Nothing to wring your hands over, unless you're trying to dishonestly tell the inhabitants of their lands that their lands don't belong to them, but to you! because 'god gave you the land' 2000+ years ago, blah, blah, blah..

    Now if you're an Ashkenazi Jew, that's going to be a hard sell, yes? Since there were very few Poles or Ukrainians or Lithuanians or Russians in Jerusalem between the years 400 and 100 BC, when most of that (tripe) was written.


    “but how come Ashkenazim speak a German dialect”!
     
    they settled in Germany, (who wouldn't) because the German people were as kind and welcoming in those days are they are today. The Germans are historically renowned for their generosity and civilized ways, so it was a natural place for them to congregate. Soon enough, they picked up the language. There was also no doubt some mixing, but that certainly would not account for the white skin and fair features of these unique peoples. They're a European/Turkish people, born and bread on the Eurasian Steppe. Caught in-between Mongol hoards, Russian Tsars, Roman emperors and assorted hostile locals, they were war-like and proud. Sometime during the Byzantine empire, they converted to Judaism, on orders of their king, it is believed because they were menaced by Christians in one direction, and Muslims in the other, and so they decided to become 'Jews! and therefor hold on to their identity, that they've remarkably and admirably managed to do ever since.

    So there you have it wiz, a history of your people!

    ~ you're welcome

    You confirm that you have relied on some potted summary of the theory espoused by Koestler (though he probably didn’t invent it). Apparently only the Khazar royal family (and no doubt some nobles and court officers) converted. The beginnings of Jews in Europe were amongst the Celts, including in the Rhineland before the Germans got there. But are you so immodest about your knowledge that you make no attempt to check with a scholar who really knows his stuff like Greg Cochran as I suggested? Have you heard of DNA since you closed your mind to new knowledge? Indeed Ashkenazi are 40 to 60 per cent European by descent but not Turkic.

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    wiz,

    I wrote a nice reply to you but for some reason I couldn't get it to publish

    glitch I suppose
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  110. Sowhat says:
    @Stonehands

    This isn’t a myths and fables Hebrew School Torah class. Or is it?
     
    ...because of Godless heathens such as yourself, we have lost our nation.

    Great article. Excuse me while I comment on these religious highjackers.

    It may not be verbatum. “If my kingdom was of this world we would take up arms and fight but my kingdom is not of this world.”

    Christians allow themselves to be manipulated by Jews just many secular people’s, ie. The U.S. Government and anyone else that will join “their cause “. Yet, some one individual once cautioned not to be “entangled in the cares of this world.”

    The New Testament scholar knows that the God of the Jews rejected them and scattered them and accepts anyone, now, that embraces His plan of salvation. The Seed of Abraham receives NO position of favor and, in fact, have received “rejected” status.

    Israel is now secular, racist, and anathema. They now incite violence and murder and psyops, and the blood of other willing fools to achieve their Secular goals. And there are many fools.

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  111. Sowhat says:
    @Realist
    "We cannot allow our friends in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to play our hand for us, for it is all too often in their interests to have us come fight their wars, which are not necessarily our wars."

    We have no friends in the Middle East only enemies and leeches.

    Their wars should never be our wars.

    We have no friends in the Middle East only enemies and leeches

    Correct and, yet, still no significant protests against the MIIC.

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  112. Rurik says: • Website
    @Parfois
    Hello Rurik,

    You might have added that the Jews were expelled from many European countries many times over - sometimes repeatedly from the same country - for some reason. The Gipsies who have roamed Europe for as long as the Jews were tolerated, left alone, and there were no official mass expulsions against them, although the Moors were expelled from Spain in the 1490s. Eventually they were accepted in large numbers by the Dutch Republic ( the Jews expelled from Portugal were familiar with the thrust for overseas expansion and commerce and helped the Dutch trading enterprise) and from there to other countries from England to Russia thanks to their trading and allied banking networks. Obviously, many locals "converted" to Judaism for opportunistic joining of the bandwagon for personal gain in the emerging mercantile capitalism. It may also be opportune to remember that modern capitalism took off from Holland, Northeast France, England and Germany (Hanseatic League) where Jews congregated to form their own trading and financial groups culminating with the creation of the first national banks, issuing paper money and financing wars.

    excellent points Parfois,

    although the Moors were expelled from Spain in the 1490s.

    I’ve often read that the Moors were allowed into Spain in the first place by disloyal Jews who had risen to places of prominence and trust in Spain, and then assisted with the Moorish invasion by ‘opening up the gates of Spain’

    a lazy web search provides this for instance

    http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2015/11/yes-breitbart-jews-did-open-gates.html

    it’s not for nothing that when Saint Isabella cleansed Iberia of the invading Muslim hoards, it was with great difficulty that they tried to sift between who were loyal Spanish Jews and who had treachery in their hearts for the Christian peoples and culture of Europa. How little things change, eh?

    modern capitalism took off from Holland, Northeast France, England and Germany (Hanseatic League) where Jews congregated to form their own trading and financial groups culminating with the creation of the first national banks, issuing paper money and financing wars.

    before NYC was called New York City, it was known as New Amsterdam.

    from Wiki

    The first Jews known to have lived in New Amsterdam arrived in 1654. First to arrive were Solomon Pietersen and Jacob Barsimson, who sailed in the summer of 1654 directly from Holland, with passports that gave them permission to trade in the colony.[16] Then in early September, 23 Jewish refugees arrived from the formerly Dutch city of Recife, which had been conquered by the Portuguese in January of that year.[17] The director of New Amsterdam, Peter Stuyvesant, sought to turn them away but was ultimately overruled by the directors of the Dutch West India Company in Amsterdam.[18] Asser Levy, an Ashkenazi Jew who was one of the 23 refugees, eventually prospered and in 1661 became the first Jew to own a house in New Amsterdam, which also made him the first Jew known to have owned a house anywhere in North America.[19]

    In 1661 the Communipaw ferry was founded and began a long history of trans-Hudson ferry and ultimately rail and road transportation. [20]

    On September 15, 1655, New Amsterdam was attacked by 2,000 Indians as part of the Peach Tree War, who destroyed 28 farms, killed 100 settlers, and took 150 prisoners.

    just some history for those interested..

    eventually these remarkable people came to dominate this financial hub of the planet almost exclusivity. Wall Street today is as controlled by Jews as effectively as Hollywood.

    and you and I are sitting at our computers ruminating on what it all means, and what it bodes for the rest of us; that these extraordinary people have achieved such prominence and influence over our destinies

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  113. Rurik says: • Website
    @Wizard of Oz
    You confirm that you have relied on some potted summary of the theory espoused by Koestler (though he probably didn't invent it). Apparently only the Khazar royal family (and no doubt some nobles and court officers) converted. The beginnings of Jews in Europe were amongst the Celts, including in the Rhineland before the Germans got there. But are you so immodest about your knowledge that you make no attempt to check with a scholar who really knows his stuff like Greg Cochran as I suggested? Have you heard of DNA since you closed your mind to new knowledge? Indeed Ashkenazi are 40 to 60 per cent European by descent but not Turkic.

    wiz,

    I wrote a nice reply to you but for some reason I couldn’t get it to publish

    glitch I suppose

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  114. […] a (((tumorous growth))) at the heart of our very existence as a state. The only things you can do with a tumor are cut it […]

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    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=712399298940447&id=100005111508172

    Ted R. Weiland:
    Rule of Law! PROVIDED law is identified correctly.

    "...Isaiah 33:22 and James 4:12 declare that Yahweh is the exclusive legislator. There are no others, period! Anyone who claims the title of legislator (particularly when his “laws”—whether commandments, statutes, or judgments—are inconsonant with Yahweh’s) is a usurper and is perpetuating the sin begun by Adam and Eve. The same is true for any one of us who would modify Yahweh’s triune law.

    "Any legislation antithetical to Yahweh’s turns evil to good and good to evil (Isaiah 5:20). When man rejects Yahweh’s standard of morality, it is inevitable he will make legal what Yahweh has made unlawful (e.g., infanticide and sodomy) and make illegal what Yahweh has made lawful (e.g., monotheistic Christianity outside the four walls of church buildings).

    "Yahweh is the only lawgiver because as Creator He’s the only one with the authority to determine what is good and evil. His morals as codified in His commandments, statutes, and judgments determine what is right and left. Anything left of His right(eousness) [including the Constitution and its corollary "laws"] is left, liberal, and ungodly...."

    For more, see blog article "Right, Left, and Center: Who Gets to Decide?" at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/right-left-and-center-who-gets-to-decide/.

    Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ConstitutionSurvey.html and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

    "...The power to declare war is a serious responsibility. Why were the framers so vague in defining the parameters of war and the conditions under which it could be declared? Section 8, Clause 11 is the only place of significance where warfare is mentioned in the Constitution. Little wonder this power has been abused. Luther Martin [one of Maryland's delegates to the Constitutional Convention] protested:

    '…the congress have also a power given them to raise and support armies, without any limitation as to numbers, and without any restriction in time of peace. Thus, sir, this plan of government, instead of guarding against a standing army, that engine of arbitrary power, which has so often and so successfully been used for the subversion of freedom, has in its formation given it an express and constitutional sanction….'40

    "John Quincy Adams predicted the consequences of America’s international military entanglements:
    'America … has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when the conflict has been for principles to which she clings…. Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy.… She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors, and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force; the frontlet on her brow would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished luster, the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world: she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit.'41

    Because the framers provided no Biblical parameters, unbiblical warfare has been the rule ever since. Following is a list of the countries bombed by the United States since World War II....

    "From 1945 to the present, the United States has bombed nineteen different countries under the guise of defending America’s sovereignty and promoting democracy. But America is none the better for it, and not one of these countries has become a legitimate democracy – not that this would be anything to celebrate. Something is amiss. Wars fought for political gain or financial profit can only be classified as ungodly acts of aggression....

    "Without the constitutional [unbiblical] power to borrow, these and all subsequent ungodly wars could have perhaps been averted. ..."

    For more, see online Chapter 4 "Article 1: Legislative Usurpation" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective" at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt4.html.

    Thank you for demonstrating that those old books, written 2 thousand years ago for a time which no longer exists and a place that has nothing to do with Western civilization, are totally irrelevant to our democratically-created laws and values.

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