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That the Trump presidency is bedeviled is undeniable.

As President Donald Trump flew off for August at his Jersey club, there came word that Special Counsel Robert Mueller III had impaneled a grand jury and subpoenas were going out to Trump family and campaign associates.

The jurors will be drawn from a pool of citizens in a city Hillary Clinton swept with 91 percent of the vote. Trump got 4 percent.

Whatever indictments Mueller wants, Mueller gets.

Thanks to a media that savages him ceaselessly, Trump is down to 33 percent approval in a Quinnipiac University poll and below 40 percent in most of the rest.

Before Trump departed D.C., The Washington Post ran transcripts of his phone conversations with the leaders of Mexico and Australia.

Even Obama administration veterans were stunned.

So, it is time to ask: If this city brings Trump down, will the rest of America rejoice?

What will be the reaction out there in fly-over country, that land where the “deplorables” dwell who produce the soldiers to fight our wars? Will they toast the “free press” that brought down the president they elected, and in whom they had placed so much hope?

My guess: The reaction will be one of bitterness, cynicism, despair, a sense that the fix is in, that no matter what we do, they will not let us win. If Trump is brought down, American democracy will take a pasting. It will be seen as a fraud. And the backlash will poison our politics to where only an attack from abroad, like 9/11, will reunite us.

Our media preen and posture as the defenders of democracy, devoted to truth, who provide us round-the-clock protection from tyranny. But half the nation already sees the media as a propaganda arm of a liberal establishment that the people have rejected time and again.

Consider the Post’s publication of the transcripts of Trump’s calls with Mexico’s president and Australia’s prime minister.

When reporter Greg Miller got these transcripts, his editors, knowing they would damage Trump, plastered them on Page 1.

The Post was letting itself be used by a leaker engaged in disloyal and possibly criminal misconduct. Yet the Post agreed to provide confidentiality and to hide the Trump-hater’s identity.

This is what we do, says the Post. People have a right to know if President Trump says one thing at rallies about Mexico paying for the wall and another to the president of Mexico. This is a story.

But there is a far larger story here, of which this Post piece is but an exhibit. It is the story of a concerted campaign, in which the anti-Trump media publish leaks, even criminal leaks, out of the FBI, CIA, NSA and NSC, to bring down a president whom the Beltway media and their deep-state collaborators both despise and wish to destroy.

Did Trump collude with Putin to defeat Clinton, the Beltway media demand to know, even as they daily collude with deep-state criminals to bring down the president of the United States.

ORDER IT NOW

And if there is an unfolding silent coup by the regime Americans repudiated in 2016 — to use security leaks and the lethal weapon of a special counsel to overturn the election results — is that not a story worth covering as much as what Trump said to Pena Nieto?

Do the people not have a right know who are the snakes collaborating with the Never-Trump press to bring down their head of state? Is not discovering the identities of deep-state felons a story that investigative reporters should be all over?

If Greg Miller is obligated to protect his source, fine. But why are other journalists not exposing his identity?

The answer suggests itself. This is a collaborative enterprise, where everyone protects everyone else’s sources, because all have the same goal: the dumping of Trump. If that requires collusion with criminals, so be it.

The Justice Department is now running down the leaks, and the ACLU’s Ben Wizner is apoplectic: “Every American should be concerned about the Trump administration’s threat to step up its efforts against whistleblowers and journalists. A crackdown on leaks is a crackdown on the free press and on democracy.”

That’s one way to put it. Another is that some of these “whistleblowers” are political criminals who reject the verdict of the American electorate in 2016 and are out to overturn it. And the aforementioned “journalists” are their enablers and collaborators.

And if, as Wizner’s asserts, protecting secrets is tantamount to a “crackdown on the free press and democracy,” no wonder the free press and democracy are falling into disrepute all over the world.

By colluding, the mainstream media, deep state, and the special prosecutor’s button men, with a license to roam, may bring down yet another president. So doing, they will validate John Adams’s insight:

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. “And the backlash will poison our politics to where only an attack from abroad, like 9/11, will reunite us.”
    Mr. Buchanan’s by the book approach to journalism is part and parcel of what ails the American press establishment which is supposed to be one of the pillars of democracy and free society. Can anyone asserts with a fair degree of certitude that 9/11 was an outside job?
    Why does the American establishment want to bring down Trump? Simply because the U.S., like Isreal, is one of those countries that, absent a perceived external threat, have a problem keeping their sense of unity. The melting pot ( or melting plot) is hooked on a system where defense spending is paramount to keeping the American economy running for the benefit of the predatory ruling class. That a President who believes in nurturing peaceful relationships with the rest of the world and opening opportunities for prosperity through commercial exchanges with Russia is a non starter for the American establishment.
    ” …John Adams’s insight:
    “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”
    A very sad fact if history. But we could also add that American democracy was an impaired, or even stillborn democracy, as it was designed by a landed gentry whose principal concern was ‘ mob rule’ by the majority. While we cannot deny the vibrancy of the American press during the nineteen century, the robber barons of the likes of Jhon D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie and JP Morgan did create a new reality in America where the corporate press is the name of the game at the service of the elite.
    Donald Trump has one way out of his quagmire: a direct appeal to the people to rally behind him. Failing this option would doom the Trump presidency to a footnote about the ephemeral power of the people in history lessons.

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  2. The so-called American democracy is not worth a damn. It’s a criminal oligarchy that runs that country. A free press, what a joke! Political thugs infiltrate institutions such as the CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress and the like. What’s happening right now in the US is indeed a lesson in democracy, but of a wicked one. The putsch against President Trump is a case study taught in schools and universities not only in the US but around the world. This coup is carried out by the so-called liberals who always have known better what’s good for the “deplorable”, i. e. der ordinary American folks. This most elite thinking is all over the place. I think that there still exists a revolutionary potential in American society that can be brought into the open to resists this putsch led by the media, the Deep State, and the Beltway political mafia.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    So will you be front and center when the rebellion comes to fruition or sitting on the sidelines?

    Moreover, assuming you are an American living in the States, and believe that our government and media is corrupt, what actions are you specifically taking to stop this scourge? Or, are you content with "living your life and letting the nation fall"--if that be the case, then you are contributing to the criminality and thuggery.
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  3. MEexpert says:

    This is a sad chapter in American democracy in which the people to be blamed are not the President but the senators and congressmen. These people are elected to protect our democratic system. The elected officials and the MSM are trying to overturn the results of a legal election. Trump’s crime; he annihilated 16 stars of the republican party and went on to defeat the establishment candidate and the queen of the left. The worst part of this entire story is the shameful behavior of the republicans. They are cutting their noses to spite the face.

    Obviously, Trump is not helping the matters. With his inaction and the chaos in the White House, there is no “adult” to take care of affairs of the state. Even his Vice-President is not loyal to him. He is busy planning his on ascension to the presidency. Trump’s first mistake was not to go after Hillary Clinton. He should have appointed an independent Counsel to investigate Clinton email scandal from the start. Even after none months he has not fought back. He may not have guts enough to do that.

    Trump’s second mistake was to let all the “never Trumpers” back into administration. When he gave in to their calls for attack on Syria, he got some praise and he thought he had won them over. Those neocons are loyal only to Israel and perpetual wars. Washington Post is protecting this leaker but wanted Snowdon prosecuted. So did the rest of the MSM. Selected use of the first amendment. Washington Post publishing leaked information, OK; not so with Assange doing the same.

    I think Mueller should be fired right away. Let the congress scream. Trump should dare the congress, especially the republicans, to impeach him and take his chances. At the same time he should take his case to the public who voted him in.

    A salient feature of democracy is that in it every one is equal. The democracy in the US has been in decline ever since Israel started getting special treatment. The only beneficiary of 9/11 was Israel.

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    "The democracy in the US has been in decline ever since Israel started getting special treatment. "

    This is exactly the main problem. The fucking Jewish cartel and all the sold out vile souls who choose to lick their feet.
    , @Corvinus
    Yes, the Deep State will take out Trump even though he is innocent. Everyone is out to get him. The Jews are in on it, too. It is treason. The Deep State and their fiendish Jewish acolytes must be hung.

    So, who is going to take on these two powerful groups from this blog in the name of liberty and justice and sacrifice themselves to save white people and Western Civilization? Any takers? Or you guys and gals impotent cowards?

    Ok, now for the reality check. There are several investigations taking place, including those from his inner circle that were under surveillance prior to the election. Hacking, money laundering, pay for play, human trafficking--federal and state prosecutors are looking at bringing these charges to the fold.

    It's really simple here--if the evidence does not nail specifically Trump and his team, the Republicans will have a cakewalk in 2020 and beyond. Then those who brought those charges to the fore will face hell on earth, and deservedly so.

    However, even if there are tapes of Trump and/or his associates engaging in illegal activities, and they are dead to right guilty, there will still be irrational people out there claiming "Fake News" and concocting conspiracy theories.

    No one ones for certain how it will play out. The next several months, and probably couple of years, will bring everything out in the open.

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  4. Maybe the folks in Flyover Country will finally accept that Nixon was railroaded too.

    The criminal elite think by militarising the police and expanding the security apparatus that they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will.

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    they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will
     
    Many elites have successfully resisted the popular will. In fact, it's rather the rule than the exception.
    , @TomSchmidt

    The criminal elite think by militarising the police and expanding the security apparatus that they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will.
     
    That's worth a highlight.
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  5. Zoodles says:

    Apres moi, le deluge

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  6. @The Alarmist
    Maybe the folks in Flyover Country will finally accept that Nixon was railroaded too.

    The criminal elite think by militarising the police and expanding the security apparatus that they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will.

    they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will

    Many elites have successfully resisted the popular will. In fact, it’s rather the rule than the exception.

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    You think Panem et circenses Was the name of the game because the nobles of Rome were feeling beneficent?
    , @olde reb
    Well, Benjamin Ginsberg documented numerous cases in which the elites who had helped rulers exploit the masses were violently driven out of the various countries. Ref. FATAL EMBRACE; JEWS AND THE STATE by B. Ginsberg.

    Did you know the Magna Carta was the result of the Baron's revolt against London Financiers who were war-mongering for an invasion of Normandy ? History books seem to overlook that fact. the bankers were desseized and exilled, violently//

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  7. At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

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    "If this city brings down Trump, will the rest of America rejoice? " What will be the reaction in fly-over country....? My guess: the reaction will be one of bitterness, cynicism, despair, a sense that the fix is in...The backlash will poison our politics..."

    If Trump is impeached and removed from office in an illegal(?) if non-violent "coup," the "backlash may lead to the rise of a "populist, America-first" third-party, funded by Trump and other rich and affluent heretics, with an anti-"invite-the-world/invade-the-world" candidate. What about Ann Coulter? That would be interesting: a female Trump who is more articulate, erudite, intellectual.

    Given the rise of such a party combined with the inexorable transformation of the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country, the Republican Party of John McCoin and his ilk will never win another presidental election. Good riddance, and reason to rejoice in the doom of the GOP even as one despairs in the death of the "historic American nation."

    , @Corvinus
    "At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him."

    You would be in the minority.
    , @Darin

    At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

     

    Did Trump, in his whole life, ever fought for anything (except more money for himself)?
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  8. @MEexpert
    This is a sad chapter in American democracy in which the people to be blamed are not the President but the senators and congressmen. These people are elected to protect our democratic system. The elected officials and the MSM are trying to overturn the results of a legal election. Trump's crime; he annihilated 16 stars of the republican party and went on to defeat the establishment candidate and the queen of the left. The worst part of this entire story is the shameful behavior of the republicans. They are cutting their noses to spite the face.

    Obviously, Trump is not helping the matters. With his inaction and the chaos in the White House, there is no "adult" to take care of affairs of the state. Even his Vice-President is not loyal to him. He is busy planning his on ascension to the presidency. Trump's first mistake was not to go after Hillary Clinton. He should have appointed an independent Counsel to investigate Clinton email scandal from the start. Even after none months he has not fought back. He may not have guts enough to do that.

    Trump's second mistake was to let all the "never Trumpers" back into administration. When he gave in to their calls for attack on Syria, he got some praise and he thought he had won them over. Those neocons are loyal only to Israel and perpetual wars. Washington Post is protecting this leaker but wanted Snowdon prosecuted. So did the rest of the MSM. Selected use of the first amendment. Washington Post publishing leaked information, OK; not so with Assange doing the same.

    I think Mueller should be fired right away. Let the congress scream. Trump should dare the congress, especially the republicans, to impeach him and take his chances. At the same time he should take his case to the public who voted him in.

    A salient feature of democracy is that in it every one is equal. The democracy in the US has been in decline ever since Israel started getting special treatment. The only beneficiary of 9/11 was Israel.

    “The democracy in the US has been in decline ever since Israel started getting special treatment. ”

    This is exactly the main problem. The fucking Jewish cartel and all the sold out vile souls who choose to lick their feet.

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  9. @The Alarmist
    Maybe the folks in Flyover Country will finally accept that Nixon was railroaded too.

    The criminal elite think by militarising the police and expanding the security apparatus that they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will.

    The criminal elite think by militarising the police and expanding the security apparatus that they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will.

    That’s worth a highlight.

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  10. @reiner Tor

    they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will
     
    Many elites have successfully resisted the popular will. In fact, it's rather the rule than the exception.

    You think Panem et circenses Was the name of the game because the nobles of Rome were feeling beneficent?

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  11. nsa says:

    C’mon Pat….finger the perps. Trumpstein is a vile jooie tool, so lame and stupid even his Izzie sponsors must be embarrassed. Maybe it’s time for the deplorables to remove their MAGA hats and put on jooie beanies……..

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    C’mon Pat….finger the perps.
     
    I found myself wistfully wishing that when Pat wrote these words, that he have amended it..

    the ACLU’s Ben Wizner is apoplectic:
     
    into:

    the ACLU’s ((Ben Wizner)) is apoplectic:

    wouldn't that be a hoot?!
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  12. Rurik says:

    where only an attack from abroad, like 9/11, will reunite us.

    OMG the irony

    Consider the Post’s publication of the transcripts of Trump’s calls with Mexico’s president and Australia’s prime minister.

    I’ve began to wonder if it isn’t the serial leaks that are behind Trump’s loss of confidence in Sessions. He’s the head of the Federal Justice Dept, and he can’t figure out who is leaking?

    the leaks are obviously from intelligence personnel. (who else would be privy to such information?!)

    Obviously certain intelligence agencies, (all of them?!) are trying to subvert this nation’s government. It isn’t just a felony, it’s treason. And yet Sessions wrings his hands like an impotent old dowager. ‘look, I arrested a gang member!’ As our democracy and nation is betrayed by deepstate enemies and traitors

    Is not discovering the identities of deep-state felons a story that investigative reporters should be all over?

    forget “investigative reporters”. What about the Justice Dept.?!

    has he recused himself from that too?

    “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.”

    America isn’t committing suicide, it’s being murdered

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  13. Rurik says:
    @nsa
    C'mon Pat....finger the perps. Trumpstein is a vile jooie tool, so lame and stupid even his Izzie sponsors must be embarrassed. Maybe it's time for the deplorables to remove their MAGA hats and put on jooie beanies........

    C’mon Pat….finger the perps.

    I found myself wistfully wishing that when Pat wrote these words, that he have amended it..

    the ACLU’s Ben Wizner is apoplectic:

    into:

    the ACLU’s ((Ben Wizner)) is apoplectic:

    wouldn’t that be a hoot?!

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  14. nickels says:

    Not sure what is going to happen, but I’ve been sorting out the people I spend time around, lately.
    Just in case.

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  15. Because Buchanan lived thru Watergate, he is drawing too many parallels.

    True, the enemies of Trump are even worse and crazier than enemies of Nixon.

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.

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    "Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate"...not true. Nixon was "set up" because he passed over "deep throat" Mark Felt for FBI Director preferring Patrick Gray. When Felt was not awarded the position he decided to 'take Nixon down".
    , @MEexpert

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.
     
    Worse than Clinton, Bush, and Obama/Clinton? They shredded the constitution and nothing happened.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    "In contrast RN really did do something bad with Watergate"

    Bullshit all of the "Bad" doings were on the side of the dissolute Democrats who have never, in the last hundred years, run a clean election campaign, and he, RN, was simply trying to get to the bottom of their underhanded actions.

    If he, RN, would have been a Democrat, and the Democrats Republicans, the press would have lauded him with his Watergate action, as a great hero and the savior of the democracy.

    Authenticjazman "Mensa" Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.
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  16. After the Coupe nullification and secession movements will blossom all over the country. After the impending crash and fall of the Zempire Washington will be powerless to stop them. I see a long period of hard times ahead but ultimately liberation from Imperial Washington.

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    "After the Coupe nullification and secession movements will blossom all over the country."

    You are engaging in wishful thinking, considering how the Alt Right carries on incessantly that today's white men are generally low T betas. So are you going to hoist the petard for your kin, or are you going to let others do the dirty work for you?
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  17. Corvinus says:
    @Ludwig Watzal
    The so-called American democracy is not worth a damn. It's a criminal oligarchy that runs that country. A free press, what a joke! Political thugs infiltrate institutions such as the CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress and the like. What's happening right now in the US is indeed a lesson in democracy, but of a wicked one. The putsch against President Trump is a case study taught in schools and universities not only in the US but around the world. This coup is carried out by the so-called liberals who always have known better what's good for the "deplorable", i. e. der ordinary American folks. This most elite thinking is all over the place. I think that there still exists a revolutionary potential in American society that can be brought into the open to resists this putsch led by the media, the Deep State, and the Beltway political mafia.

    So will you be front and center when the rebellion comes to fruition or sitting on the sidelines?

    Moreover, assuming you are an American living in the States, and believe that our government and media is corrupt, what actions are you specifically taking to stop this scourge? Or, are you content with “living your life and letting the nation fall”–if that be the case, then you are contributing to the criminality and thuggery.

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  18. Corvinus says:
    @WorkingClass
    After the Coupe nullification and secession movements will blossom all over the country. After the impending crash and fall of the Zempire Washington will be powerless to stop them. I see a long period of hard times ahead but ultimately liberation from Imperial Washington.

    “After the Coupe nullification and secession movements will blossom all over the country.”

    You are engaging in wishful thinking, considering how the Alt Right carries on incessantly that today’s white men are generally low T betas. So are you going to hoist the petard for your kin, or are you going to let others do the dirty work for you?

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    What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus? Or do you think the Zempire is eternal?
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  19. anarchyst says:
    @Priss Factor
    Because Buchanan lived thru Watergate, he is drawing too many parallels.

    True, the enemies of Trump are even worse and crazier than enemies of Nixon.

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.

    “Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate”…not true. Nixon was “set up” because he passed over “deep throat” Mark Felt for FBI Director preferring Patrick Gray. When Felt was not awarded the position he decided to ‘take Nixon down”.

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    Yes, that may be true.

    But the enemies really had something because the Watergate burglary did take place.

    Without that, Nixon would have been home free.
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  20. Corvinus says:
    @MEexpert
    This is a sad chapter in American democracy in which the people to be blamed are not the President but the senators and congressmen. These people are elected to protect our democratic system. The elected officials and the MSM are trying to overturn the results of a legal election. Trump's crime; he annihilated 16 stars of the republican party and went on to defeat the establishment candidate and the queen of the left. The worst part of this entire story is the shameful behavior of the republicans. They are cutting their noses to spite the face.

    Obviously, Trump is not helping the matters. With his inaction and the chaos in the White House, there is no "adult" to take care of affairs of the state. Even his Vice-President is not loyal to him. He is busy planning his on ascension to the presidency. Trump's first mistake was not to go after Hillary Clinton. He should have appointed an independent Counsel to investigate Clinton email scandal from the start. Even after none months he has not fought back. He may not have guts enough to do that.

    Trump's second mistake was to let all the "never Trumpers" back into administration. When he gave in to their calls for attack on Syria, he got some praise and he thought he had won them over. Those neocons are loyal only to Israel and perpetual wars. Washington Post is protecting this leaker but wanted Snowdon prosecuted. So did the rest of the MSM. Selected use of the first amendment. Washington Post publishing leaked information, OK; not so with Assange doing the same.

    I think Mueller should be fired right away. Let the congress scream. Trump should dare the congress, especially the republicans, to impeach him and take his chances. At the same time he should take his case to the public who voted him in.

    A salient feature of democracy is that in it every one is equal. The democracy in the US has been in decline ever since Israel started getting special treatment. The only beneficiary of 9/11 was Israel.

    Yes, the Deep State will take out Trump even though he is innocent. Everyone is out to get him. The Jews are in on it, too. It is treason. The Deep State and their fiendish Jewish acolytes must be hung.

    So, who is going to take on these two powerful groups from this blog in the name of liberty and justice and sacrifice themselves to save white people and Western Civilization? Any takers? Or you guys and gals impotent cowards?

    Ok, now for the reality check. There are several investigations taking place, including those from his inner circle that were under surveillance prior to the election. Hacking, money laundering, pay for play, human trafficking–federal and state prosecutors are looking at bringing these charges to the fold.

    It’s really simple here–if the evidence does not nail specifically Trump and his team, the Republicans will have a cakewalk in 2020 and beyond. Then those who brought those charges to the fore will face hell on earth, and deservedly so.

    However, even if there are tapes of Trump and/or his associates engaging in illegal activities, and they are dead to right guilty, there will still be irrational people out there claiming “Fake News” and concocting conspiracy theories.

    No one ones for certain how it will play out. The next several months, and probably couple of years, will bring everything out in the open.

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  21. olde reb says:

    The hypocrisy of the Post is obscene.

    The Post should have the right to write any fabricated lie they wish about Trump without jeopardy, but any informed citizen who dares to expose an action the government (or Wall Street) does not want exposed (with or without national security stamp) should be court martialed or imprisoned.

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  22. olde reb says:
    @reiner Tor

    they will be the first elite in all of history to successfully resist the popular will
     
    Many elites have successfully resisted the popular will. In fact, it's rather the rule than the exception.

    Well, Benjamin Ginsberg documented numerous cases in which the elites who had helped rulers exploit the masses were violently driven out of the various countries. Ref. FATAL EMBRACE; JEWS AND THE STATE by B. Ginsberg.

    Did you know the Magna Carta was the result of the Baron’s revolt against London Financiers who were war-mongering for an invasion of Normandy ? History books seem to overlook that fact. the bankers were desseized and exilled, violently//

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  23. @anarchyst
    "Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate"...not true. Nixon was "set up" because he passed over "deep throat" Mark Felt for FBI Director preferring Patrick Gray. When Felt was not awarded the position he decided to 'take Nixon down".

    Yes, that may be true.

    But the enemies really had something because the Watergate burglary did take place.

    Without that, Nixon would have been home free.

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    Paranoia got the better of Nixon He could have simply recused himself and let the investigation take its course He had nothing to hide
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  24. SMK says: • Website
    @reiner Tor
    At this point I'd hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

    “If this city brings down Trump, will the rest of America rejoice? ” What will be the reaction in fly-over country….? My guess: the reaction will be one of bitterness, cynicism, despair, a sense that the fix is in…The backlash will poison our politics…”

    If Trump is impeached and removed from office in an illegal(?) if non-violent “coup,” the “backlash may lead to the rise of a “populist, America-first” third-party, funded by Trump and other rich and affluent heretics, with an anti-”invite-the-world/invade-the-world” candidate. What about Ann Coulter? That would be interesting: a female Trump who is more articulate, erudite, intellectual.

    Given the rise of such a party combined with the inexorable transformation of the U.S. into a nonwhite-majority country, the Republican Party of John McCoin and his ilk will never win another presidental election. Good riddance, and reason to rejoice in the doom of the GOP even as one despairs in the death of the “historic American nation.”

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  25. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Priss Factor
    Yes, that may be true.

    But the enemies really had something because the Watergate burglary did take place.

    Without that, Nixon would have been home free.

    Paranoia got the better of Nixon He could have simply recused himself and let the investigation take its course He had nothing to hide

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  26. MEexpert says:
    @Priss Factor
    Because Buchanan lived thru Watergate, he is drawing too many parallels.

    True, the enemies of Trump are even worse and crazier than enemies of Nixon.

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.

    Worse than Clinton, Bush, and Obama/Clinton? They shredded the constitution and nothing happened.

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    Lincoln violated the Constitution too. It's an American tradition.

    What made Watergate so problematic was it was so tawdry and it was domestic.

    Reagan got away with Iran-Contra since it involved Iran and Nicaragua and could be spun as bending the rules to serve US interests. Free hostages and aid Contras fighting commies.

    But Watergate just seemed so sleazy and pointless.

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  27. Corvinus says:
    @reiner Tor
    At this point I'd hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

    “At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.”

    You would be in the minority.

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  28. KenH says:

    These same journos who are so eager to receive leaks damaging to the Trump administration would have ratted out any leakers during the Obongo administration to the DOJ. Leaks would have been decried as racially motivated. They were extremely protective of their mulatto messiah these last eight years. Virtually the entire media are comprised of ultra left wing progressives and anti-white bigots who cynically masquerade as torchbearers of truth, justice and objectivity.

    And after the coup? More wars for Israel (which we might get with Trump anyway), amnesty, more third world refugees, Jewish supremacy, speech codes, middle class destroying free trade and climate change schemes, corporate welfare and freebies and set asides for the parasite class, er, the “underserved”. Otherwise known as business as usual which Trump has had the temerity to only mildly interrupt.

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    The same people who desperately want leaks are the same ones who would have attacked leakers who leaked about the real Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

    I don't agree with many things with Trump and I think he has already sold out on his base by stuffing his Cabinet with Goldman Sachs bankers, but make no mistake, the Establishment is very powerful. Trump was clearly not their choice - they mobilized the MSM to get him unsuccessfully in the 2016 election and have been trying to destroy him ever since.

    The Establishment does not see him as legitimate. Neither do the Liberals, who lost because of Obama's betrayal of his 2008 promises and Clinton's inability to appeal to the general populace. She also sabotaged Bernie Sanders.

    The thing is, the Establishment types are to blame for the current situation. There's no middle class any more - destroyed by the Establishment that wanted to get rich. Same with the endless wars abroad, they sure as hell are not making us safer. They betrayed their nation for their greed. That's what this is about. As for the "deplorables" comment, well, that's what they really think of common folks.

    I'm a Sanders support and I have no illusions, had Sanders won, they would have been out to get him as well. It's likely he would have been rendered ineffective too.

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  29. Darin says:
    @reiner Tor
    At this point I'd hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

    At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fighting bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

    Did Trump, in his whole life, ever fought for anything (except more money for himself)?

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  30. @MEexpert

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.
     
    Worse than Clinton, Bush, and Obama/Clinton? They shredded the constitution and nothing happened.

    Lincoln violated the Constitution too. It’s an American tradition.

    What made Watergate so problematic was it was so tawdry and it was domestic.

    Reagan got away with Iran-Contra since it involved Iran and Nicaragua and could be spun as bending the rules to serve US interests. Free hostages and aid Contras fighting commies.

    But Watergate just seemed so sleazy and pointless.

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    Of course Watergate was pointless, from Nixon'x point of view.

    But then, he didn't know about the June 17, 1972 break-in in advance. He didn't personally approve it, and had he been informed, he would have opposed it.

    As Nixon wrote later in his memoir, the whole thing felt like a set-up.

    It was. The Deep State really hated Nixon.

    The break-in was deliberately sabotaged to prevent the discovery of an on-going CIA operation involving the hookers at the Columbia Plaza Apartments down the street, hookers whose clients included powerful men from all over the U.S.

    How much Maureen Biner (Dean) told her fiance, John Dean, about what was happening at the Columbia Plaza is a matter of speculation. Maureen knew Heidi "Cathy" Rikan - see below - the madam. And what John Dean knew, he isn't saying.

    http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/WHCG_Cover.jpg
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  31. The problem is not that the media is publishing leaks, the problem is that they only do it with Republican administrations.

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  32. yeah says:

    Anyone notice how Trump is suddenly beginning to look old and slow? He has about him a weighed-down look, shoulders stooped, his walk becoming a shuffle. No longer looks like the fighter he always did. I suppose he did put in as much fight as is humanly possible for an individual surrounded by disloyalty, traitors, the unhinged and the crazed, and the baying hounds of the media.

    The man and his agenda is open for discussion; some will agree, some will find faults. But the fact that he was elected by the people and is the President and Chief Executive cannot be contested. Take him down and you will be taking down the Presidency of the US. Whoever comes next will occupy a diminished office, an insecure tenure, and the task of presiding over a nation torn apart by irreconcilable differences. Pat Buchanan is 100% right in this article of his, which is a very, very sad thing.

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    Anyone notice how Trump is suddenly beginning to look old and slow? He has about him a weighed-down look, shoulders stooped, his walk becoming a shuffle. No longer looks like the fighter he always did.
     
    Utter nonsense.

    Stand before the mirror and admit to yourself that you are steeped in the primitive primate desire to watch Dumuzi (or any lugal) win...then be defeated and die and be replaced by Inanna with another himbo.

    This primitivism is in the DNA of all Near/Middle Eastern social, economic, financial and religious systems.

    My American ancestors fought and died to create a place where another narrative DNA could evolve.

    Admit to yourself that you cannot imagine a Father's success against all odds. That like most people these days you have never seen such a thing. That in a reality-frame of asymmetric warfare--Finland, 1939, say--you are not equal to the task.

    The arc of history has been bent toward a moment ripe for cool, collected, Stoic opinion and thought. For considered action and words.

    Not political snuff porn.

    No, let me rephrase that.

    The narrative of believing your enemy will succeed is the same narrative as the enemy's belief he will win.

    Which side are you on?
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  33. Rurik says:

    over a nation torn apart by irreconcilable differences

    let’s rip it apart!

    any fealty to the ZUS government by true and traditional Americans is a humiliation and infamy on our souls

    the ZUS government is our intractable enemy and has been for before we were all born, and that includes during Pat Buchanan’s lifetime as well, who served under Nixon who abolished the gold standard and imposed a 55 MPH speed limit on our fabulous highways because he was crouched down in-between Israel’s legs and pissing off the Arabs who then imposed an oil embargo. We’ve been under and between Israel’s legs ever since. And Buchanan knows it.

    the ZUS government is the enemy, and always has been.

    and it will never relent until you are properly humiliated with foreigners and enemies putting it to you and your children at every opportunity.

    Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.

    You are nothing but a contemptible slave and cannon fodder to the fiend in DC, and the ((media)) will make sure your children know their place.

    Your sons will be expected to die for their deadliest enemy, and your daughters… well we all know what they have in mind for them.

    Tell the elites that they’re on their own. You no longer owe them anything but a middle finger.

    We need to start building a separate nation in our minds, so that when the time comes, we’ll be ready to make it real in territorial terms.

    Leave the cities. They’re increasingly nothing but festering, spiritual sewers of political correctness run amok.

    Build solid communities that are self sufficient. Elect sheriffs and local politicians that will protect your way of life from the elite scum and their armies of hostiles that do not have your best interests at heart. Hardly.

    Consider the ZUS government and media as your most insidious and deadly enemy you could ever imagine in a thousand nightmares, x a million +

    and you won’t even be close

    they see your loved ones savaged by orcs and are giddy about it. That’s why they won’t report on such news, because they want more and more and more of that kind of thing to become routine. They get off on that kind of thing! The federal government of the ZUS is a more sinister enemy and hatred-consumed, murderous demon than we traditional Americans can possibly even comprehend. And we’re being used by them to help and assist them to destroy us.

    Stop playing their game, by their rules. It’s all intended to enslave and humiliate and dominate and ultimately destroy you and yours.

    the only people worse than the Democrats (who at least openly hate your white guts) are the Republicans, who lie to you with their every feculent breath, while they’re taking your money.

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    "any fealty to the ZUS government by true and traditional Americans is a humiliation and infamy on our souls"

    What is YOUR definition of "true and traditional Americans"?

    "and it will never relent until you are properly humiliated with foreigners and enemies putting it to you and your children at every opportunity."

    Why must we "normies" submit to your line of thinking? How do YOU know this "truth" compared to say myself? How are you certain we "normies" have been indoctrinated?

    "Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster."

    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American. Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?

    "We need to start building a separate nation in our minds, so that when the time comes, we’ll be ready to make it real in territorial terms."

    Who is this "we"? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?
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  34. At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fightiinng bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.

    Not exactly fighting, because he really won’t stand a chance. It will be like George Orwell’s essay, “Shooting an Elephant”. Mueller, as the game warden called in by the local natives, will take way too long to do the bull in. Then, at the end of a mercilessly long day, dominated by the swan’s song of the bull’s trumpeted tweets, as the natives stand around and watch, fascinated unto boredom by the dying of a beast that refuses to die … then, at the end of it all, Mueller will realize the import of what has happened, as will everyone else as they slink away in an embarrassed and embarrassing silence … that the Empire died that day.

    For Orwell, it presaged the fall of Singapore and of Hong Kong – the beginning of WW II. And could it announce the entrance of USA into the fray, finally taking on the Chicom empire? Well, yes. It’s conceivable that the Pearl Harbor event will actually be an attack on Pearl … but this time the attack will be financial and Pearl will indeed by acquired by the enemy, as will Alaska.

    Where does that leave Europe. the side show? Well, just as USA had to lose its far Western provinces, so will Russia have to lose its Far East. The PRC will clean up everywhere.

    What is the alternative?

    Attack North Korea? (Too little, too late.)

    Kill the treasonous neocons? (Now that’s a thought.)

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    On the other hand, maybe the Republic will survive. There's always a silver lining.

    Except, it could also be that the Republic that survives will be a "People's Republic". The best way to avoid that would be an alliance with Russia, ASAP.

    We shall see what we shall see.
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  35. @Grandpa Charlie

    At this point I’d hope Trump would go down fightiinng bitterly, bringing down the whole system with him.
     
    Not exactly fighting, because he really won't stand a chance. It will be like George Orwell's essay, "Shooting an Elephant". Mueller, as the game warden called in by the local natives, will take way too long to do the bull in. Then, at the end of a mercilessly long day, dominated by the swan's song of the bull's trumpeted tweets, as the natives stand around and watch, fascinated unto boredom by the dying of a beast that refuses to die ... then, at the end of it all, Mueller will realize the import of what has happened, as will everyone else as they slink away in an embarrassed and embarrassing silence ... that the Empire died that day.

    For Orwell, it presaged the fall of Singapore and of Hong Kong - the beginning of WW II. And could it announce the entrance of USA into the fray, finally taking on the Chicom empire? Well, yes. It's conceivable that the Pearl Harbor event will actually be an attack on Pearl ... but this time the attack will be financial and Pearl will indeed by acquired by the enemy, as will Alaska.

    Where does that leave Europe. the side show? Well, just as USA had to lose its far Western provinces, so will Russia have to lose its Far East. The PRC will clean up everywhere.

    What is the alternative?

    Attack North Korea? (Too little, too late.)

    Kill the treasonous neocons? (Now that's a thought.)

    On the other hand, maybe the Republic will survive. There’s always a silver lining.

    Except, it could also be that the Republic that survives will be a “People’s Republic”. The best way to avoid that would be an alliance with Russia, ASAP.

    We shall see what we shall see.

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  36. @Corvinus
    "After the Coupe nullification and secession movements will blossom all over the country."

    You are engaging in wishful thinking, considering how the Alt Right carries on incessantly that today's white men are generally low T betas. So are you going to hoist the petard for your kin, or are you going to let others do the dirty work for you?

    What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus? Or do you think the Zempire is eternal?

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    "What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus?"

    Seashells and balloons.
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  37. NoldorElf says:
    @KenH
    These same journos who are so eager to receive leaks damaging to the Trump administration would have ratted out any leakers during the Obongo administration to the DOJ. Leaks would have been decried as racially motivated. They were extremely protective of their mulatto messiah these last eight years. Virtually the entire media are comprised of ultra left wing progressives and anti-white bigots who cynically masquerade as torchbearers of truth, justice and objectivity.

    And after the coup? More wars for Israel (which we might get with Trump anyway), amnesty, more third world refugees, Jewish supremacy, speech codes, middle class destroying free trade and climate change schemes, corporate welfare and freebies and set asides for the parasite class, er, the "underserved". Otherwise known as business as usual which Trump has had the temerity to only mildly interrupt.

    The same people who desperately want leaks are the same ones who would have attacked leakers who leaked about the real Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee in 2016.

    I don’t agree with many things with Trump and I think he has already sold out on his base by stuffing his Cabinet with Goldman Sachs bankers, but make no mistake, the Establishment is very powerful. Trump was clearly not their choice – they mobilized the MSM to get him unsuccessfully in the 2016 election and have been trying to destroy him ever since.

    The Establishment does not see him as legitimate. Neither do the Liberals, who lost because of Obama’s betrayal of his 2008 promises and Clinton’s inability to appeal to the general populace. She also sabotaged Bernie Sanders.

    The thing is, the Establishment types are to blame for the current situation. There’s no middle class any more – destroyed by the Establishment that wanted to get rich. Same with the endless wars abroad, they sure as hell are not making us safer. They betrayed their nation for their greed. That’s what this is about. As for the “deplorables” comment, well, that’s what they really think of common folks.

    I’m a Sanders support and I have no illusions, had Sanders won, they would have been out to get him as well. It’s likely he would have been rendered ineffective too.

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  38. Olorin says:
    @yeah
    Anyone notice how Trump is suddenly beginning to look old and slow? He has about him a weighed-down look, shoulders stooped, his walk becoming a shuffle. No longer looks like the fighter he always did. I suppose he did put in as much fight as is humanly possible for an individual surrounded by disloyalty, traitors, the unhinged and the crazed, and the baying hounds of the media.

    The man and his agenda is open for discussion; some will agree, some will find faults. But the fact that he was elected by the people and is the President and Chief Executive cannot be contested. Take him down and you will be taking down the Presidency of the US. Whoever comes next will occupy a diminished office, an insecure tenure, and the task of presiding over a nation torn apart by irreconcilable differences. Pat Buchanan is 100% right in this article of his, which is a very, very sad thing.

    Anyone notice how Trump is suddenly beginning to look old and slow? He has about him a weighed-down look, shoulders stooped, his walk becoming a shuffle. No longer looks like the fighter he always did.

    Utter nonsense.

    Stand before the mirror and admit to yourself that you are steeped in the primitive primate desire to watch Dumuzi (or any lugal) win…then be defeated and die and be replaced by Inanna with another himbo.

    This primitivism is in the DNA of all Near/Middle Eastern social, economic, financial and religious systems.

    My American ancestors fought and died to create a place where another narrative DNA could evolve.

    Admit to yourself that you cannot imagine a Father’s success against all odds. That like most people these days you have never seen such a thing. That in a reality-frame of asymmetric warfare–Finland, 1939, say–you are not equal to the task.

    The arc of history has been bent toward a moment ripe for cool, collected, Stoic opinion and thought. For considered action and words.

    Not political snuff porn.

    No, let me rephrase that.

    The narrative of believing your enemy will succeed is the same narrative as the enemy’s belief he will win.

    Which side are you on?

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  39. Corvinus says:
    @WorkingClass
    What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus? Or do you think the Zempire is eternal?

    “What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus?”

    Seashells and balloons.

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    Oh. I get it. You are an ass hole.
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  40. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    over a nation torn apart by irreconcilable differences
     
    let's rip it apart!

    any fealty to the ZUS government by true and traditional Americans is a humiliation and infamy on our souls

    the ZUS government is our intractable enemy and has been for before we were all born, and that includes during Pat Buchanan's lifetime as well, who served under Nixon who abolished the gold standard and imposed a 55 MPH speed limit on our fabulous highways because he was crouched down in-between Israel's legs and pissing off the Arabs who then imposed an oil embargo. We've been under and between Israel's legs ever since. And Buchanan knows it.

    the ZUS government is the enemy, and always has been.

    and it will never relent until you are properly humiliated with foreigners and enemies putting it to you and your children at every opportunity.

    Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.

    You are nothing but a contemptible slave and cannon fodder to the fiend in DC, and the ((media)) will make sure your children know their place.

    Your sons will be expected to die for their deadliest enemy, and your daughters... well we all know what they have in mind for them.

    Tell the elites that they're on their own. You no longer owe them anything but a middle finger.

    We need to start building a separate nation in our minds, so that when the time comes, we'll be ready to make it real in territorial terms.

    Leave the cities. They're increasingly nothing but festering, spiritual sewers of political correctness run amok.

    Build solid communities that are self sufficient. Elect sheriffs and local politicians that will protect your way of life from the elite scum and their armies of hostiles that do not have your best interests at heart. Hardly.

    Consider the ZUS government and media as your most insidious and deadly enemy you could ever imagine in a thousand nightmares, x a million +

    and you won't even be close

    they see your loved ones savaged by orcs and are giddy about it. That's why they won't report on such news, because they want more and more and more of that kind of thing to become routine. They get off on that kind of thing! The federal government of the ZUS is a more sinister enemy and hatred-consumed, murderous demon than we traditional Americans can possibly even comprehend. And we're being used by them to help and assist them to destroy us.

    Stop playing their game, by their rules. It's all intended to enslave and humiliate and dominate and ultimately destroy you and yours.

    the only people worse than the Democrats (who at least openly hate your white guts) are the Republicans, who lie to you with their every feculent breath, while they're taking your money.

    “any fealty to the ZUS government by true and traditional Americans is a humiliation and infamy on our souls”

    What is YOUR definition of “true and traditional Americans”?

    “and it will never relent until you are properly humiliated with foreigners and enemies putting it to you and your children at every opportunity.”

    Why must we “normies” submit to your line of thinking? How do YOU know this “truth” compared to say myself? How are you certain we “normies” have been indoctrinated?

    “Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.”

    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American. Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?

    “We need to start building a separate nation in our minds, so that when the time comes, we’ll be ready to make it real in territorial terms.”

    Who is this “we”? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?

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    What is YOUR definition of “true and traditional Americans”?
     
    any and all Americans that the fecal government has declared that it's not only legal to discriminate against, but we are all encouraged to do so.

    if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen

    true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America's identity and history and traditions. If you're a black women with Amerindian and French ancestry, whose progenitors fought and worked and struggled and lived and loved on this N. American continent, and hold in your heart a special place of affection for America's history and traditions and heritage that you are an intrinsic part of, then you are a 'true and traditional American'. And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American.

    If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we'd all be far better off without you.

    Please leave these shores, and bid us all a fond Farwell. We wish you a bon voyage, and a happy life. But if you think that because both of your feet happen to be planted on sacred US soil, and that just because you're at the immigration attorney's office, and are filing for your EBT card, that now somehow you're an 'American', well then I'm here to set you straight. ;)

    and today, if you're a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv, that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners>>> but rather than being alarmed, you're sanguine about it all- then you're not only not a true and traditional American, but rather the enemy of America and all she once stood for when she declared armed insurrection against the banking cartel of England, and wrote those sublime words about individual human dignity and freedom. Words that she seems to have long forgotten, and that I'm here to remind her of.


    How do YOU know this “truth” compared to say myself?
     
    well Corvy, that is for the readers out there to decide

    you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about 'constitutional representation', even if he doesn't have the slightest idea wtf he's talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who's going to believe you corv? You see that's the sticky question, isn't it?



    “Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.”
     
    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American.
     
    I like the way I phrased that eh corv?

    yea, I leave from time to time. And may leave permanently one day. But I built a successful business here and have family and friends and so many ties, that it makes leaving permanently a complicated affair. Not that I haven't considered it, and often still do.


    Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?
     
    because one day on the horizon, when that proverbial 100th monkey's eyes awaken, then the spirit of the true and traditional American soul will burst forth once again upon the sacred soil of this once great nation, then we will repudiate wars for fun and profit, and jail the war criminals and perfidious traitors that have infested the halls of our governments and institutions and used our great strength for evil, rather than good. One day the American soul will remember its heroes and saints like Patrick Henry and Jonas Salk and Pocahontas and Ayn Rand and Henry Ford and Ron Paul, and on and on...

    There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we're being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our 'Christian' preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores.


    Who is this “we”? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?
     
    "we" are all the people of good will and honest hearts. All the people of this planet who reject ignoble lies and the rotten liars that tell them. That repudiate wars for fun and profit, and the murderous swine that engage in it.

    'We' are all the people who say no to torture, and yes to justice.

    who say no to central bankers and their schemes, like the EU fraud and fomenting strife

    who say yes to the Rule of Law, and prison for those who break it

    'we' are the people of Iceland, who marched on their government building and non-violently put the banksters and corrupt politicians in a cage

    we are the people of Egypt, who said 'no more!' to quislings of Zion, and Mubarak had to slink out like the snake he was. And one day the proud Egyptian people will do it again.

    we're the refuseniks in Israel

    we're the Brexit voters in England

    we're the deplorables and irredeemables, and we're awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle.

    together corvy, we can do it, and make this world a better place ;)

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  41. @Priss Factor
    Because Buchanan lived thru Watergate, he is drawing too many parallels.

    True, the enemies of Trump are even worse and crazier than enemies of Nixon.

    But they really have NOTHING. In contrast, Nixon really did do something bad with Watergate.

    “In contrast RN really did do something bad with Watergate”

    Bullshit all of the “Bad” doings were on the side of the dissolute Democrats who have never, in the last hundred years, run a clean election campaign, and he, RN, was simply trying to get to the bottom of their underhanded actions.

    If he, RN, would have been a Democrat, and the Democrats Republicans, the press would have lauded him with his Watergate action, as a great hero and the savior of the democracy.

    Authenticjazman “Mensa” Society member since 1973, airborne qualified US Army Vet, and pro Jazz artist.

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  42. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus
    "any fealty to the ZUS government by true and traditional Americans is a humiliation and infamy on our souls"

    What is YOUR definition of "true and traditional Americans"?

    "and it will never relent until you are properly humiliated with foreigners and enemies putting it to you and your children at every opportunity."

    Why must we "normies" submit to your line of thinking? How do YOU know this "truth" compared to say myself? How are you certain we "normies" have been indoctrinated?

    "Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster."

    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American. Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?

    "We need to start building a separate nation in our minds, so that when the time comes, we’ll be ready to make it real in territorial terms."

    Who is this "we"? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?

    What is YOUR definition of “true and traditional Americans”?

    any and all Americans that the fecal government has declared that it’s not only legal to discriminate against, but we are all encouraged to do so.

    if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen

    true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions. If you’re a black women with Amerindian and French ancestry, whose progenitors fought and worked and struggled and lived and loved on this N. American continent, and hold in your heart a special place of affection for America’s history and traditions and heritage that you are an intrinsic part of, then you are a ‘true and traditional American’. And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American.

    If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we’d all be far better off without you.

    Please leave these shores, and bid us all a fond Farwell. We wish you a bon voyage, and a happy life. But if you think that because both of your feet happen to be planted on sacred US soil, and that just because you’re at the immigration attorney’s office, and are filing for your EBT card, that now somehow you’re an ‘American’, well then I’m here to set you straight. ;)

    and today, if you’re a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv, that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners>>> but rather than being alarmed, you’re sanguine about it all- then you’re not only not a true and traditional American, but rather the enemy of America and all she once stood for when she declared armed insurrection against the banking cartel of England, and wrote those sublime words about individual human dignity and freedom. Words that she seems to have long forgotten, and that I’m here to remind her of.

    How do YOU know this “truth” compared to say myself?

    well Corvy, that is for the readers out there to decide

    you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about ‘constitutional representation’, even if he doesn’t have the slightest idea wtf he’s talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who’s going to believe you corv? You see that’s the sticky question, isn’t it?

    “Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.”

    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American.

    I like the way I phrased that eh corv?

    yea, I leave from time to time. And may leave permanently one day. But I built a successful business here and have family and friends and so many ties, that it makes leaving permanently a complicated affair. Not that I haven’t considered it, and often still do.

    Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?

    because one day on the horizon, when that proverbial 100th monkey’s eyes awaken, then the spirit of the true and traditional American soul will burst forth once again upon the sacred soil of this once great nation, then we will repudiate wars for fun and profit, and jail the war criminals and perfidious traitors that have infested the halls of our governments and institutions and used our great strength for evil, rather than good. One day the American soul will remember its heroes and saints like Patrick Henry and Jonas Salk and Pocahontas and Ayn Rand and Henry Ford and Ron Paul, and on and on…

    There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we’re being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our ‘Christian’ preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores.

    Who is this “we”? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?

    “we” are all the people of good will and honest hearts. All the people of this planet who reject ignoble lies and the rotten liars that tell them. That repudiate wars for fun and profit, and the murderous swine that engage in it.

    ‘We’ are all the people who say no to torture, and yes to justice.

    who say no to central bankers and their schemes, like the EU fraud and fomenting strife

    who say yes to the Rule of Law, and prison for those who break it

    ‘we’ are the people of Iceland, who marched on their government building and non-violently put the banksters and corrupt politicians in a cage

    we are the people of Egypt, who said ‘no more!’ to quislings of Zion, and Mubarak had to slink out like the snake he was. And one day the proud Egyptian people will do it again.

    we’re the refuseniks in Israel

    we’re the Brexit voters in England

    we’re the deplorables and irredeemables, and we’re awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle.

    together corvy, we can do it, and make this world a better place ;)

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    This is a well-written, thoughtful response. The only problem: your are writing it to a stupid troll asshole who doesn't really want any dialog, is not looking for a beneficial exchange of ideas; he just wants to stir up shit as usual.
    , @Corvinus
    "if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen."

    Meaning that a couple hundred million of Americans are your "enemy". Makes a great deal of sense.

    "true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions."

    Purposely vague here. What do you mean by "participated in the fabric of America's identity and history and traditions"?

    "And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American."

    Except if these individuals have relatives who have already established themselves as "true and traditional Americans", then you are denying the liberty of groups who are seeking to reunite with their own flesh and blood.

    "If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we’d all be far better off without you."

    And how do you go about creating a system by which you are able to identify such people? What does it all entail? Moreover, by your estimation, how many Americans are we talking about here who allegedly have this love for someplace other than America?

    "and today, if you’re a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv..."

    Assuming that such a relationship exists to the level that you claim exists.

    "that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners"

    You are using the same rhetoric employed by nativists who were upset that Germans and the Irish "invaded" in the 1840's/1850's; that the Italians, Poles, and Russians "invaded" in the late 1800's, etc. And how did these "foreigners" respond to such rhetoric? In the same way today's "menacing" mix of brown and black hordes--they work hard and are law-abiding. Are some in the group "troublemakers"? Indeed. So you send them back, not an entire group.

    "you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about ‘constitutional representation’, even if he doesn’t have the slightest idea wtf he’s talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who’s going to believe you corv? You see that’s the sticky question, isn’t it?"

    It's actually a relatively easy question to answer. Every immigrant who comes to America today has to prove their worth, no different than in the past.

    "There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we’re being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our ‘Christian’ preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores."

    And yet you simultaneously seek to profit from this corrupt system when your "enemies" are customers for your business and fund the "treasonous actions of the elites" via your personal spending and tax dollars.

    "we’re the deplorables and irredeemables, and we’re awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle."

    Then run for political office on your platform.
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  43. @Corvinus
    "What do you think post imperial America will look like Corvinus?"

    Seashells and balloons.

    Oh. I get it. You are an ass hole.

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  44. @Priss Factor
    Lincoln violated the Constitution too. It's an American tradition.

    What made Watergate so problematic was it was so tawdry and it was domestic.

    Reagan got away with Iran-Contra since it involved Iran and Nicaragua and could be spun as bending the rules to serve US interests. Free hostages and aid Contras fighting commies.

    But Watergate just seemed so sleazy and pointless.

    Of course Watergate was pointless, from Nixon’x point of view.

    But then, he didn’t know about the June 17, 1972 break-in in advance. He didn’t personally approve it, and had he been informed, he would have opposed it.

    As Nixon wrote later in his memoir, the whole thing felt like a set-up.

    It was. The Deep State really hated Nixon.

    The break-in was deliberately sabotaged to prevent the discovery of an on-going CIA operation involving the hookers at the Columbia Plaza Apartments down the street, hookers whose clients included powerful men from all over the U.S.

    How much Maureen Biner (Dean) told her fiance, John Dean, about what was happening at the Columbia Plaza is a matter of speculation. Maureen knew Heidi “Cathy” Rikan – see below – the madam. And what John Dean knew, he isn’t saying.

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  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Rurik

    What is YOUR definition of “true and traditional Americans”?
     
    any and all Americans that the fecal government has declared that it's not only legal to discriminate against, but we are all encouraged to do so.

    if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen

    true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America's identity and history and traditions. If you're a black women with Amerindian and French ancestry, whose progenitors fought and worked and struggled and lived and loved on this N. American continent, and hold in your heart a special place of affection for America's history and traditions and heritage that you are an intrinsic part of, then you are a 'true and traditional American'. And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American.

    If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we'd all be far better off without you.

    Please leave these shores, and bid us all a fond Farwell. We wish you a bon voyage, and a happy life. But if you think that because both of your feet happen to be planted on sacred US soil, and that just because you're at the immigration attorney's office, and are filing for your EBT card, that now somehow you're an 'American', well then I'm here to set you straight. ;)

    and today, if you're a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv, that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners>>> but rather than being alarmed, you're sanguine about it all- then you're not only not a true and traditional American, but rather the enemy of America and all she once stood for when she declared armed insurrection against the banking cartel of England, and wrote those sublime words about individual human dignity and freedom. Words that she seems to have long forgotten, and that I'm here to remind her of.


    How do YOU know this “truth” compared to say myself?
     
    well Corvy, that is for the readers out there to decide

    you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about 'constitutional representation', even if he doesn't have the slightest idea wtf he's talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who's going to believe you corv? You see that's the sticky question, isn't it?



    “Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.”
     
    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American.
     
    I like the way I phrased that eh corv?

    yea, I leave from time to time. And may leave permanently one day. But I built a successful business here and have family and friends and so many ties, that it makes leaving permanently a complicated affair. Not that I haven't considered it, and often still do.


    Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?
     
    because one day on the horizon, when that proverbial 100th monkey's eyes awaken, then the spirit of the true and traditional American soul will burst forth once again upon the sacred soil of this once great nation, then we will repudiate wars for fun and profit, and jail the war criminals and perfidious traitors that have infested the halls of our governments and institutions and used our great strength for evil, rather than good. One day the American soul will remember its heroes and saints like Patrick Henry and Jonas Salk and Pocahontas and Ayn Rand and Henry Ford and Ron Paul, and on and on...

    There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we're being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our 'Christian' preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores.


    Who is this “we”? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?
     
    "we" are all the people of good will and honest hearts. All the people of this planet who reject ignoble lies and the rotten liars that tell them. That repudiate wars for fun and profit, and the murderous swine that engage in it.

    'We' are all the people who say no to torture, and yes to justice.

    who say no to central bankers and their schemes, like the EU fraud and fomenting strife

    who say yes to the Rule of Law, and prison for those who break it

    'we' are the people of Iceland, who marched on their government building and non-violently put the banksters and corrupt politicians in a cage

    we are the people of Egypt, who said 'no more!' to quislings of Zion, and Mubarak had to slink out like the snake he was. And one day the proud Egyptian people will do it again.

    we're the refuseniks in Israel

    we're the Brexit voters in England

    we're the deplorables and irredeemables, and we're awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle.

    together corvy, we can do it, and make this world a better place ;)

    This is a well-written, thoughtful response. The only problem: your are writing it to a stupid troll asshole who doesn’t really want any dialog, is not looking for a beneficial exchange of ideas; he just wants to stir up shit as usual.

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  46. Ma Laoshi says:

    Mr. Buchanan asserts, without proof, that Trump’s approval ratings are falling because of his treatment in the media. And yet he handily defeated the media by Winning! last November. May I offer some alternative theories, also without proof, about why his voters are cooling on Trump. Maybe, after campaigning like a populist, stuffing his cabinet with billionaires who are now in lockstep pursuing their class interest has something to do with it? Or that he can’t seem to choose which war to start first when so many tempting options present themselves? His supporters wanted to “lock her up” but once in power, Trump’s own daughter went full Clinton by pocketing $100m in Saudi cash.

    If the intelligence services are a bit of a nuisance to him then Trump could have, you know, reined them in–say with a Grand Jury of his own, but if I have it right even disbanding the CIA is within the vast powers of his office. You play your cards right, many progressives and libertarians would come over to your side for this. He has *chosen* to do nothing beyond fuming on Twitter.

    And always funny to see Buchanan shedding tears over an America divided, when he was right there fanning the flames of culture war as part of Nixon’s “Southern strategy”.

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  47. Corvinus says:
    @Rurik

    What is YOUR definition of “true and traditional Americans”?
     
    any and all Americans that the fecal government has declared that it's not only legal to discriminate against, but we are all encouraged to do so.

    if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen

    true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America's identity and history and traditions. If you're a black women with Amerindian and French ancestry, whose progenitors fought and worked and struggled and lived and loved on this N. American continent, and hold in your heart a special place of affection for America's history and traditions and heritage that you are an intrinsic part of, then you are a 'true and traditional American'. And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American.

    If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we'd all be far better off without you.

    Please leave these shores, and bid us all a fond Farwell. We wish you a bon voyage, and a happy life. But if you think that because both of your feet happen to be planted on sacred US soil, and that just because you're at the immigration attorney's office, and are filing for your EBT card, that now somehow you're an 'American', well then I'm here to set you straight. ;)

    and today, if you're a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv, that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners>>> but rather than being alarmed, you're sanguine about it all- then you're not only not a true and traditional American, but rather the enemy of America and all she once stood for when she declared armed insurrection against the banking cartel of England, and wrote those sublime words about individual human dignity and freedom. Words that she seems to have long forgotten, and that I'm here to remind her of.


    How do YOU know this “truth” compared to say myself?
     
    well Corvy, that is for the readers out there to decide

    you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about 'constitutional representation', even if he doesn't have the slightest idea wtf he's talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who's going to believe you corv? You see that's the sticky question, isn't it?



    “Secede in your minds, Americans. Renounce your humiliating servility to a singularly hatred-consumed, genocidal taskmaster.”
     
    I take it that you be leaving the United States shortly, assuming you an American.
     
    I like the way I phrased that eh corv?

    yea, I leave from time to time. And may leave permanently one day. But I built a successful business here and have family and friends and so many ties, that it makes leaving permanently a complicated affair. Not that I haven't considered it, and often still do.


    Why would you submit yourself and your prodigy to continued mind rape?
     
    because one day on the horizon, when that proverbial 100th monkey's eyes awaken, then the spirit of the true and traditional American soul will burst forth once again upon the sacred soil of this once great nation, then we will repudiate wars for fun and profit, and jail the war criminals and perfidious traitors that have infested the halls of our governments and institutions and used our great strength for evil, rather than good. One day the American soul will remember its heroes and saints like Patrick Henry and Jonas Salk and Pocahontas and Ayn Rand and Henry Ford and Ron Paul, and on and on...

    There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we're being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our 'Christian' preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores.


    Who is this “we”? And when is this magical time that everything goes down?
     
    "we" are all the people of good will and honest hearts. All the people of this planet who reject ignoble lies and the rotten liars that tell them. That repudiate wars for fun and profit, and the murderous swine that engage in it.

    'We' are all the people who say no to torture, and yes to justice.

    who say no to central bankers and their schemes, like the EU fraud and fomenting strife

    who say yes to the Rule of Law, and prison for those who break it

    'we' are the people of Iceland, who marched on their government building and non-violently put the banksters and corrupt politicians in a cage

    we are the people of Egypt, who said 'no more!' to quislings of Zion, and Mubarak had to slink out like the snake he was. And one day the proud Egyptian people will do it again.

    we're the refuseniks in Israel

    we're the Brexit voters in England

    we're the deplorables and irredeemables, and we're awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle.

    together corvy, we can do it, and make this world a better place ;)

    “if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen.”

    Meaning that a couple hundred million of Americans are your “enemy”. Makes a great deal of sense.

    “true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions.”

    Purposely vague here. What do you mean by “participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions”?

    “And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American.”

    Except if these individuals have relatives who have already established themselves as “true and traditional Americans”, then you are denying the liberty of groups who are seeking to reunite with their own flesh and blood.

    “If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we’d all be far better off without you.”

    And how do you go about creating a system by which you are able to identify such people? What does it all entail? Moreover, by your estimation, how many Americans are we talking about here who allegedly have this love for someplace other than America?

    “and today, if you’re a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv…”

    Assuming that such a relationship exists to the level that you claim exists.

    “that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners”

    You are using the same rhetoric employed by nativists who were upset that Germans and the Irish “invaded” in the 1840′s/1850′s; that the Italians, Poles, and Russians “invaded” in the late 1800′s, etc. And how did these “foreigners” respond to such rhetoric? In the same way today’s “menacing” mix of brown and black hordes–they work hard and are law-abiding. Are some in the group “troublemakers”? Indeed. So you send them back, not an entire group.

    “you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about ‘constitutional representation’, even if he doesn’t have the slightest idea wtf he’s talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who’s going to believe you corv? You see that’s the sticky question, isn’t it?”

    It’s actually a relatively easy question to answer. Every immigrant who comes to America today has to prove their worth, no different than in the past.

    “There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we’re being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our ‘Christian’ preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores.”

    And yet you simultaneously seek to profit from this corrupt system when your “enemies” are customers for your business and fund the “treasonous actions of the elites” via your personal spending and tax dollars.

    “we’re the deplorables and irredeemables, and we’re awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle.”

    Then run for political office on your platform.

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    Meaning that a couple hundred million of Americans are your “enemy”. Makes a great deal of sense.
     
    did you just pull that out of your ass?

    the only ones who're our enemies are the ones foisting all this madness upon us, (and their apologists ; )

    What do you mean by “participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions”?
     
    exactly what it says dumbass

    if you arrived last week, it's not you, K?

    If you were born here, but wallow in the barrios of LA or Hialeah and never spoke a word of English, nor have any idea who Davy Crockett or Neil Armstrong or Sojourner Truth are, then you haven't participated in the fabric of American identity.

    It isn't rocket science, unless you're an imbecile.

    Except if these individuals have relatives who have already established themselves as “true and traditional Americans”, then you are denying the liberty of groups who are seeking to reunite with their own flesh and blood.
     
    too bad, so sad

    how many Americans are we talking about here who allegedly have this love for someplace other than America?
     
    start with duel nationals with two or more passports. ALL of them: *Get out!*

    So you send them back, not an entire group.
     
    go home
    https://kek.gg/i/LtQrq.jpg

    Every immigrant who comes to America today has to prove their worth,
     
    http://images1.browardpalmbeach.com/imager/dilbert-coreas-alleged-ms-13-gangbanger/u/original/6444844/602014_148053185360910_28789637_n.jpg

    And yet you simultaneously seek to profit
     
    if Holmes (in the pic right above) can do it, why not me?

    Then run for political office on your platform.
     
    I'm too busy making money and (not making money) playing around on Ron's webzine
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  48. Rurik says:
    @Corvinus
    "if you are a member of that group, but still give fealty in your heart to the (racist, morally repugnant, illegal) fecal government, then you are a worm, and deserve your status as second class citizen."

    Meaning that a couple hundred million of Americans are your "enemy". Makes a great deal of sense.

    "true and traditional Americans include all the whites, blacks, Amerindians, Mexicans and others who have participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions."

    Purposely vague here. What do you mean by "participated in the fabric of America's identity and history and traditions"?

    "And conversely, if you got here a year ago from Mexico or Germany or India or Haiti, and your identity is part and parcel of your homeland, as it should and must be, then you are not a true and traditional American."

    Except if these individuals have relatives who have already established themselves as "true and traditional Americans", then you are denying the liberty of groups who are seeking to reunite with their own flesh and blood.

    "If you were born here, but hold in your heart an affection for the land of your ancestors or ethnicity, like a black man who loves Africa more than his birthplace of Mississippi, or a Jew who loves Israel more than his birthplace of Connecticut, or an Hispanic who harbors in his heart the racist aspirations of La Raza, then you are not a true American, and we’d all be far better off without you."

    And how do you go about creating a system by which you are able to identify such people? What does it all entail? Moreover, by your estimation, how many Americans are we talking about here who allegedly have this love for someplace other than America?

    "and today, if you’re a true and traditional American, and are aware of the treason and murderous perfidy of the recent regimes in DC/Tel Aviv..."

    Assuming that such a relationship exists to the level that you claim exists.

    "that have been terrorizing and menacing the people of the planet, and discriminating against its citizens at home, all while facilitating an invasion of our nation by hostile armies of foreigners"

    You are using the same rhetoric employed by nativists who were upset that Germans and the Irish "invaded" in the 1840's/1850's; that the Italians, Poles, and Russians "invaded" in the late 1800's, etc. And how did these "foreigners" respond to such rhetoric? In the same way today's "menacing" mix of brown and black hordes--they work hard and are law-abiding. Are some in the group "troublemakers"? Indeed. So you send them back, not an entire group.

    "you can tell them that every Somali that gets to these shores is a true and traditional American, deep in his heart and in his soul, if he just learns to ape a few words about ‘constitutional representation’, even if he doesn’t have the slightest idea wtf he’s talking about, and that will make him a true and rational American according to Corvy. But who’s going to believe you corv? You see that’s the sticky question, isn’t it?"

    It's actually a relatively easy question to answer. Every immigrant who comes to America today has to prove their worth, no different than in the past.

    "There is hope, but only when we collectively realize that we’re being taken for a ride today, and that our congress are treasonous whore$ of Zion, and our ‘Christian’ preachers are liars and frauds, and our federal government operates at the pleasure of the un-American International banking cartel that is looting us all blind and using our children as cannon fodder to murder innocent people thousands of miles away from our shores."

    And yet you simultaneously seek to profit from this corrupt system when your "enemies" are customers for your business and fund the "treasonous actions of the elites" via your personal spending and tax dollars.

    "we’re the deplorables and irredeemables, and we’re awakening corvy. And with your help, I will continue the struggle."

    Then run for political office on your platform.

    Meaning that a couple hundred million of Americans are your “enemy”. Makes a great deal of sense.

    did you just pull that out of your ass?

    the only ones who’re our enemies are the ones foisting all this madness upon us, (and their apologists ; )

    What do you mean by “participated in the fabric of America’s identity and history and traditions”?

    exactly what it says dumbass

    if you arrived last week, it’s not you, K?

    If you were born here, but wallow in the barrios of LA or Hialeah and never spoke a word of English, nor have any idea who Davy Crockett or Neil Armstrong or Sojourner Truth are, then you haven’t participated in the fabric of American identity.

    It isn’t rocket science, unless you’re an imbecile.

    Except if these individuals have relatives who have already established themselves as “true and traditional Americans”, then you are denying the liberty of groups who are seeking to reunite with their own flesh and blood.

    too bad, so sad

    how many Americans are we talking about here who allegedly have this love for someplace other than America?

    start with duel nationals with two or more passports. ALL of them: *Get out!*

    So you send them back, not an entire group.

    go home

    Every immigrant who comes to America today has to prove their worth,

    And yet you simultaneously seek to profit

    if Holmes (in the pic right above) can do it, why not me?

    Then run for political office on your platform.

    I’m too busy making money and (not making money) playing around on Ron’s webzine

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  49. Corvinus says:

    “the only ones who’re our enemies are the ones foisting all this madness upon us, (and their apologists ;)”

    A couple hundred million Americans give fealty to our government and Constitution…which makes them your enemy, as I correctly stated.

    “If you were born here, but wallow in the barrios of LA or Hialeah and never spoke a word of English, nor have any idea who Davy Crockett or Neil Armstrong or Sojourner Truth are, then you haven’t participated in the fabric of American identity.”

    Nativist in 1850–If you were born here, but wallow in the slums of New York or Boston and never spoke a word of English, nor have any idea who George Washington or Robert Fulton or Frederick Douglas are, then you haven’t participated in the fabric of American identity.

    See how arbitrary you BOTH sound?

    “I’m too busy making money and (not making money) playing around on Ron’s webzine”

    Exactly. Bitch and complain how Zionists and immigrants are ruining America while turning a profit as it burns to the ground. Some patriot are you…

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