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“All the News That’s Fit to Print” proclaims the masthead of The New York Times. “Democracy Dies in Darkness,” echoes The Washington Post.

“The people have a right to know,” the professors at Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism hammered into us in 1962. “Trust the people,” we were admonished.

Explain then this hysteria, this panic in the press over the release of a four-page memo detailing one congressional committee’s rendering of how Trump-hate spawned an FBI investigation of Republican candidate and President Donald Trump.

What is the press corps afraid of? For it has not ceased keening and caterwauling that this memo must not see the light of day.

Do the media not trust the people? Can Americans not handle the truth?

Is this the same press corps that celebrates “The Post,” lionizing Kay Graham for publishing the Pentagon Papers, top-secret documents charging the “Best and the Brightest” of the JFK-LBJ era with lying us into Vietnam?

Why are the media demanding a “safe space” for us all, so we will not be harmed by reading or hearing what the memo says?

Security secrets will be compromised, we are warned.

Really? Would the House Intelligence Committee majority vote to expose secrets that merit protection? Would Speaker Paul Ryan and White House chief of staff Gen. John Kelly, who have read and approved the release of the memo, go along with that?

Is Gen. Kelly not a proven patriot, many times over?

The committee’s ranking Democrat, Adam Schiff, who earlier warned of a threat to national security, now seems ready to settle for equal time. If the majority memo is released, says Schiff, the minority version of events should be released.

Schiff is right. It should be, along with the backup behind both.

This week, however, FBI Director Chris Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein slipped into the White House to plead with Kelly to keep the Republican memo secret. Wednesday, both went public to warn the White House against doing what Trump said he was going to do.

This is defiant insubordination. And it is not unfair to ask if Rosenstein and Wray are more alarmed about some threat to the national security than they are about the exposure of misconduct in their own agencies.

The memo is to be released Friday. Leaks suggest what it contends:

That the Russiagate investigation of Trump was propelled by a “dossier” of lies and unproven allegations of squalid conduct in Moscow and Trumpian collusion with Russia.

Who prepared the dossier?

The leading dirt-diver hired by the Clinton campaign, former British spy Christopher Steele. In accumulating his Russian dirt, Steele was spoon-fed by old comrades in the Kremlin’s security apparatus.

Not only did the FBI use this dirt to launch a full investigation of Trump, the bureau apparently used it to convince a FISA court judge to give the FBI a warrant to surveil and wiretap the Trump campaign.

If true, the highest levels of the FBI colluded with a British spy digging dirt for Hillary to ruin the opposition candidate, and, having failed, to bring down an elected president.

Is this not something we have a right to know? Should it be covered up to protect those at the FBI who may have engaged in something like this?

“Now they are investigating the investigators!” comes the wail of the media. Well, yes, they are, and, from the evidence, about time.

In this divided capital, there are warring narratives.

The first is that Trump was compromised by the Russians and colluded with them to hack the DNC and Clinton campaign to destroy her candidacy. After 18 months, the FBI and Robert Mueller probes have failed to demonstrate this.

The second narrative is now ascendant. It is this:

In mid-2016, James Comey and an FBI cabal, including Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, lead investigator Peter Strzok and his FBI paramour Lisa Page, decided Clinton must not be indicted in the server scandal, as that would make Trump president.

So they colluded and put the fix in.

This alleged conspiracy is being investigated by the FBI inspector general. His findings may explain last week’s sudden resignation of McCabe and last summer’s ouster of Strzok from the Mueller probe.

If true, this conspiracy to give Hillary a pass on her “gross negligence” in handling secrets, and take down Trump based on dirt dug up by hirelings of the Clinton campaign would make the Watergate break-in appear by comparison to be a prank.

Here we may have hit the reason for the panic in the media.

ORDER IT NOW

Trump-haters in the press may be terrified that the memo may credibly demonstrate that the “Deplorables” were right, that the elite media have been had, that they were exploited and used by the “deep state,” that they let their detestation of Trump so blind them to reality that they made fools of themselves, and that they credited with high nobility a major conspiracy to overthrow an elected president of the United States.

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of a new book, “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Alfa158 says:

    Mr. Buchanan gives the media too much credit for sincerity and good will. The elite media was not had, were not exploited, or used, and are not blind to reality. They are loyal soldiers of the deep state. The Russia narrative is a willful deception on their part in an effort to reverse an election, or at least obstruct the Trump agenda. They know what is real, what is not, and what they want in the end.

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    Man, not 10 seconds went by from time I intended to make this same point until I read yours, the 1st comment here, Alfa. The press don't have any sincerity, and if they have good will, it's only in the furthering of their causes, which is somehow the job of a "journalist" these days - since they "took out" Nixon, I suppose.

    To add more about Mr. Buchanan, not really TO him, since he probably does not get a chance to read here (keep in mind these columns are syndicated on 100's, if not 1000's of site, many with comment sections): Mr. Buchanan is kind of naive about the modern political world, about to the point of it being cute, but that word is kind of condescending. I like the guy, but he still thinks this is the 1980's when he was working for the R's or the 1970's when he worked for Nixon.

    There were evil people around even back then and there was underhanded deep-state stuff as Mr. Buchanan discusses herein, but the politicians at most levels had a civil attitude, did not want to be seen as liars, and even kept their word most of the time (until they learned it didn't matter during the Reagan era).

    It's a different world, Pat. Think of Red China during Cultural Rev. 1.0 there, and imagine what you would need to do to put a stop to that. Speaking logically and civily to those "across the aisle" would just get you killed quicker. We are almost there. These people will not change until we make them, forcibly.

    , @Eagle Eye
    Agree that Buchanan gives the FBI etc. way too much credit for sincerity.

    Also Buchanan is almost certainly quite wrong on the Deep State Big Lie:

    In accumulating his Russian dirt, Steele was spoon-fed by old comrades in the Kremlin’s security apparatus.
     
    In reality, it makes NO SENSE for Steele to go to the trouble of obtaining information from the actual FSB which will expect some quid pro quo.

    Much easier for Steele just to get hold of one or two alcoholic writers in Russia and pretend to believe that he obtained real FSB stuff from them. De facto, Steele pulled the "Russian" material out of his derriere as instructed by his client Fusion GPS representing Hillary and the Deep State.
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  2. Renoman says:

    I can’t wait to hear the squeals.

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    Renoman wrote:

    I can’t wait to hear the squeals.
     
    Nope, not gonna happen.

    I was going to write that, after the memo is released, the Dems, the Deep State, and the MSM will all swivel 180 degrees and declare that this horribly dangerous memo they have been denouncing so rabidly is really just a complete nothingburger that no one need pay any attention to at all.

    But, I am too late. The new party line is already out: Earlier this evening, I was watching a few minutes of the Brian Williams show on MSNBC, and the old pathological liar had a dude from the WaPo on already mouthing the new line.

    These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    And they will probably succeed.

    A simple way to tell who has won in a couple years: have Comey, Clapper, and Loretta Lynch been indicted?

    They will probably throw some underlings to the dogs -- maybe those poor fools Strzok and Page.

    But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    I sincerely hope I am proven wrong.

    And, I sincerely hope they do not do to Trump what they did to Kennedy. (Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman. Now, I hope that John Kelly has some solid military people protecting Trump.)
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  3. “What is the press corps afraid of? For it has not ceased keening and caterwauling that this memo must not see the light of day ….

    … FBI Director Chris Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein slipped into the White House to plead with Kelly to keep the Republican memo secret. Wednesday, both went public to warn the White House against doing what Trump said he was going to do.”

    Cockroaches scurrying as the lights go on.

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    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    Never was an analogy more apt.
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  4. The corporate media are enemies of the people.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Corporate media is in the business of delivering profits on behalf of their shareholders. They are in the entertainment business. Shame on anyone who sees legacy or social media as sources of factual and timely information, i.e. news. News is merely an incidental--even accidental--by-product of their efforts to capture your attention; viewership, page views, eyeballs being the basis of their advertising revenues.
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  5. @Renoman
    I can't wait to hear the squeals.

    Renoman wrote:

    I can’t wait to hear the squeals.

    Nope, not gonna happen.

    I was going to write that, after the memo is released, the Dems, the Deep State, and the MSM will all swivel 180 degrees and declare that this horribly dangerous memo they have been denouncing so rabidly is really just a complete nothingburger that no one need pay any attention to at all.

    But, I am too late. The new party line is already out: Earlier this evening, I was watching a few minutes of the Brian Williams show on MSNBC, and the old pathological liar had a dude from the WaPo on already mouthing the new line.

    These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    And they will probably succeed.

    A simple way to tell who has won in a couple years: have Comey, Clapper, and Loretta Lynch been indicted?

    They will probably throw some underlings to the dogs — maybe those poor fools Strzok and Page.

    But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    I sincerely hope I am proven wrong.

    And, I sincerely hope they do not do to Trump what they did to Kennedy. (Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman. Now, I hope that John Kelly has some solid military people protecting Trump.)

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    The United Sates is an oligarchy ruled by millionaires, disproportionately Jewish, who are the agents and whores and puppets of billionaires, disproportionately Jewish, virtually all of them united in their hatred of Trump and panic and mission to destroy his presidency. Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump "Russian collusion "investigation," a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution. Nor result in the punishment, criminally or otherwise, of those responsible, including Hillary Clinton, or even any regrets, apologies, recantations, mea culpas, admissions of error and wrong-doing. The witch-hunt and jihad and lies will continue unabated.
    , @nebulafox
    >These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    Sociopaths tend to be that way. They never, ever admit to a wrong, because their brains literally won't let them.

    >But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    Not least because Trump simply never had confronting them in mind.

    >Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman.

    I still do, though I do believe there was a coverup for the sake of keeping the peace. Just not for the reasons that the media would like to believe, what with Oswald having a shady Communist-laden past... such a crock, turning that little Castro admiring idiot into a right-winger.

    If you've interacted with sections of America's elite, as I have, you'll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe. They have maybe a mean, animal cunning for dealing with the masses at best-certainly no Machiavellian brilliance that would enable one to seriously compete in the ancient art of statescraft, let alone foreign policy. In a way, that makes things far worse, actually-far more likely to set off something ugly by accident. So much of America's current predicaments can be attributed to pure ideological fueled ignorance and a lack of capability for appreciating complex realities, as opposed to some pretty master plan. You always need to fear, above all else, those with low-level tactical competence that allows them to gain power, but no strategic vision to use it properly.

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  6. Greg Bacon says: • Website

    Nana Pelosi and her cancerous ilk don’t want that memo released, since it will have an impact on the number of fellow Democrat grifters, thieves, liars and Israeli Firsters that might get elected this Fall.

    As opposed to the Republican grifters, thieves, liars and Israeli Firsters that might take office.

    The whole apparatus, from President on down, is rotten and corrupt to the core. And no 4 page memo is going to change much the way sleaze is conducted in DC.

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    Great comment, Greg, as all the ones so far have been, even though yours seems to contradict the pro-memo meme.

    Let me clear it up a bit. The Blue wing and the Red wing of The Party are both rotten and corrupt to the core. The followers of the Blue wing are rotten, evil and stupid, while the followers of the Red wing are decent and stupid ... stupid for following the Red wing. Those are the people who still put Miss Grahmnesty (T - SC) and McAmnesty (T - AZ) in office because they have "R" for Republican instead of "T" for Traitor by their names on the ballots. Someone keeps screwing up the ballots.
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  7. KenH says:

    Is Gen. Kelly not a proven patriot, many times over?

    I don’t know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I’m tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.

    Regarding immigration, General Kelly seems not to be on the same page as the deplorables and is the mushy moderate as is his hand picked replacement at DHS.

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    I don’t know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I’m tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.
     
    THIS! If this Warrior Caste worship is going to colour all the thinking that goes on regarding the US Govt we might as well invite the Russians/Chinese to occupy the entire US. At least their armies win wars and if an American offended them by not bowing down to them at least as they were picking up their teeth for being found guilty of "Contempt of LEO/Military/Gubment" there would be no expectation that a constitution or bill of rights was being ignored.

    Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced weak minded, weak willed, no stomach for adulthood Mericans would love to live under a totalitarian rule. Even after all their technology based entertainment idols were smashed, they would actually start using their imaginations to build new idols to worship--ones covered in real human blood. This country needs a real big invasion to make it reevaluate it's priorities--but I think we'd quickly capitulate like France.
    , @Johnny Smoggins
    "I don’t know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I’m tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism....."


    There is much to like about the alt right but there are still far too many who worship muh veterans, muh military, muh police.

    We all need to start seeing these people for what they are; the muscle of the left. Unless cops and soldiers are actively working to undermine the system, they should be considered the enemy.
    , @MarkinLA
    The military top brass is universally for some kind of amnesty so that they can get cannon fodder. The problem is while that used to work quite well, it is a case of diminishing returns. Very few Mexicans are joining the Marines and the Muslims aren't going to fight for Israel. Since most refugees get welfare they aren't interested either.
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  8. @KenH

    Is Gen. Kelly not a proven patriot, many times over?
     
    I don't know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I'm tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.

    Regarding immigration, General Kelly seems not to be on the same page as the deplorables and is the mushy moderate as is his hand picked replacement at DHS.

    I don’t know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I’m tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.

    THIS! If this Warrior Caste worship is going to colour all the thinking that goes on regarding the US Govt we might as well invite the Russians/Chinese to occupy the entire US. At least their armies win wars and if an American offended them by not bowing down to them at least as they were picking up their teeth for being found guilty of “Contempt of LEO/Military/Gubment” there would be no expectation that a constitution or bill of rights was being ignored.

    Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I’m convinced weak minded, weak willed, no stomach for adulthood Mericans would love to live under a totalitarian rule. Even after all their technology based entertainment idols were smashed, they would actually start using their imaginations to build new idols to worship–ones covered in real human blood. This country needs a real big invasion to make it reevaluate it’s priorities–but I think we’d quickly capitulate like France.

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  9. @KenH

    Is Gen. Kelly not a proven patriot, many times over?
     
    I don't know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I'm tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.

    Regarding immigration, General Kelly seems not to be on the same page as the deplorables and is the mushy moderate as is his hand picked replacement at DHS.

    “I don’t know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I’m tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism…..”

    There is much to like about the alt right but there are still far too many who worship muh veterans, muh military, muh police.

    We all need to start seeing these people for what they are; the muscle of the left. Unless cops and soldiers are actively working to undermine the system, they should be considered the enemy.

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  10. in Near Panic

    Not true, they are not only IN panic big time, but are literally going off the rails and freaking out.

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  11. @Alfa158
    Mr. Buchanan gives the media too much credit for sincerity and good will. The elite media was not had, were not exploited, or used, and are not blind to reality. They are loyal soldiers of the deep state. The Russia narrative is a willful deception on their part in an effort to reverse an election, or at least obstruct the Trump agenda. They know what is real, what is not, and what they want in the end.

    Man, not 10 seconds went by from time I intended to make this same point until I read yours, the 1st comment here, Alfa. The press don’t have any sincerity, and if they have good will, it’s only in the furthering of their causes, which is somehow the job of a “journalist” these days – since they “took out” Nixon, I suppose.

    To add more about Mr. Buchanan, not really TO him, since he probably does not get a chance to read here (keep in mind these columns are syndicated on 100′s, if not 1000′s of site, many with comment sections): Mr. Buchanan is kind of naive about the modern political world, about to the point of it being cute, but that word is kind of condescending. I like the guy, but he still thinks this is the 1980′s when he was working for the R’s or the 1970′s when he worked for Nixon.

    There were evil people around even back then and there was underhanded deep-state stuff as Mr. Buchanan discusses herein, but the politicians at most levels had a civil attitude, did not want to be seen as liars, and even kept their word most of the time (until they learned it didn’t matter during the Reagan era).

    It’s a different world, Pat. Think of Red China during Cultural Rev. 1.0 there, and imagine what you would need to do to put a stop to that. Speaking logically and civily to those “across the aisle” would just get you killed quicker. We are almost there. These people will not change until we make them, forcibly.

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    That was about to be TL/DR (finally figured out what the heck that meant about 6 months back.)

    I'll just add here that I'd like to see a guy lead the country who is 60% Ron Paul, 30% Pat Buchanan and 10% Donald Trump. (The Trump part is just for the willingness to get in the faces of the enemy directly - it's for his LACK of civility.)
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  12. @Achmed E. Newman
    Man, not 10 seconds went by from time I intended to make this same point until I read yours, the 1st comment here, Alfa. The press don't have any sincerity, and if they have good will, it's only in the furthering of their causes, which is somehow the job of a "journalist" these days - since they "took out" Nixon, I suppose.

    To add more about Mr. Buchanan, not really TO him, since he probably does not get a chance to read here (keep in mind these columns are syndicated on 100's, if not 1000's of site, many with comment sections): Mr. Buchanan is kind of naive about the modern political world, about to the point of it being cute, but that word is kind of condescending. I like the guy, but he still thinks this is the 1980's when he was working for the R's or the 1970's when he worked for Nixon.

    There were evil people around even back then and there was underhanded deep-state stuff as Mr. Buchanan discusses herein, but the politicians at most levels had a civil attitude, did not want to be seen as liars, and even kept their word most of the time (until they learned it didn't matter during the Reagan era).

    It's a different world, Pat. Think of Red China during Cultural Rev. 1.0 there, and imagine what you would need to do to put a stop to that. Speaking logically and civily to those "across the aisle" would just get you killed quicker. We are almost there. These people will not change until we make them, forcibly.

    That was about to be TL/DR (finally figured out what the heck that meant about 6 months back.)

    I’ll just add here that I’d like to see a guy lead the country who is 60% Ron Paul, 30% Pat Buchanan and 10% Donald Trump. (The Trump part is just for the willingness to get in the faces of the enemy directly – it’s for his LACK of civility.)

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    10% ain't nearly enough of an in-your-face-attitude. Ron Paul can't bring himself to even be critical of people who would cut his throat on stage and skate around in his blood laughing. Buchanan is the kindly elder type who won't take his own side in a fight. 10% of their instincts for individual liberty is all there's room for in a president in today's political atmosphere. 90% should be fistfighter.

    Of course, that leaves Trump out on all counts.
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  13. @Greg Bacon
    Nana Pelosi and her cancerous ilk don't want that memo released, since it will have an impact on the number of fellow Democrat grifters, thieves, liars and Israeli Firsters that might get elected this Fall.

    As opposed to the Republican grifters, thieves, liars and Israeli Firsters that might take office.

    The whole apparatus, from President on down, is rotten and corrupt to the core. And no 4 page memo is going to change much the way sleaze is conducted in DC.

    Great comment, Greg, as all the ones so far have been, even though yours seems to contradict the pro-memo meme.

    Let me clear it up a bit. The Blue wing and the Red wing of The Party are both rotten and corrupt to the core. The followers of the Blue wing are rotten, evil and stupid, while the followers of the Red wing are decent and stupid … stupid for following the Red wing. Those are the people who still put Miss Grahmnesty (T – SC) and McAmnesty (T – AZ) in office because they have “R” for Republican instead of “T” for Traitor by their names on the ballots. Someone keeps screwing up the ballots.

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  14. HIsssss says:

    And if you’re tired of near panic and you want real, incapacitating, spitty screaming panic, here’s what you do: haul the most obnoxious of the DoJ perps into Congressional hearings under oath and grill them on their dotted-line reports to CIA.

    Rosenstein, McCabe, Strzok, they’re CIA NOCs. Fletcher Prouty told you forty years ago, CIA’s deepest-cover agents are the ones in the US government. CIA burns them off as an ablative to protect itself from public outrage and international pressure. When CIA’s Vietnam war mobilized the whole world against us, CIA did it to the Pentagon by publishing the Pentagon Papers. Now CIA puppets in DoJ and FBI are trying hard to make everyone forget that Brennan and his predecessors were the public face of the state campaign against unauthorized presidential candidate Donald Trump. CIA wanted a controllable cadre as head of state to ward off multiple threats to CIA’s impunity:

    – Legally mandated release of all NARA records bearing on CIA’s 1963 coup d’état;

    – International legal pursuit (in inter alia Italy, Spain, Poland, and Canada, with international civil society including CCR and CJR) of systematic and widespread CIA torture and disappearance amounting to crimes against humanity;

    – Concerted civil-society legal challenges to CIA’s gravest crimes including Saleh v. Bush, Abdul Wahed Shannan Al Rabbat v. Blair, and prospective JASTA suits. When quashed in CIA-controlled US courts, these cases support ICC admissibility of crimes the state is unwilling or unable to prosecute;

    – Nonproliferation treaty bodies openly denouncing US proliferation effected by CIA assets such as Marc Grossman, Will Cathcart, and Robert Garry, in the 2015 NWC Review Conference and in ministerial-level Russian statements exposing US efforts to thwart the object and purpose of the BWC.

    – Public awareness of CIA attacks on the domestic civilian population as pretexts for intensified repression: in Oklahoma City, at the WTC, twice, and at the Boston Marathon.

    CIA lost its grip on our throats for a second and we wound up with Trump. This is probably Congress’ last chance to restore its constitutional role.

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  15. Mr Darcy says:

    The GOPe is using DACA and The Wall to sneak in a biometric national ID card. They plan to grant a blanket amnesty and require the ID card for all citizens. It’s to be a part of E-Verify, according to numerous sources:

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/28093-gop-leaders-plot-amnesty-in-exchange-for-national-id

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4760/cosponsors

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  16. Louis A says: • Website

    Pelosi herself said when she first became Speaker of the House that the Democrat administration would be the most transparent in history. How did that turn out? Also, wouldn’t she want that for any administration? That was back in 2009 and before Trump. RELEASE THE MEMO.

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  17. SMK says: • Website
    @PhysicistDave
    Renoman wrote:

    I can’t wait to hear the squeals.
     
    Nope, not gonna happen.

    I was going to write that, after the memo is released, the Dems, the Deep State, and the MSM will all swivel 180 degrees and declare that this horribly dangerous memo they have been denouncing so rabidly is really just a complete nothingburger that no one need pay any attention to at all.

    But, I am too late. The new party line is already out: Earlier this evening, I was watching a few minutes of the Brian Williams show on MSNBC, and the old pathological liar had a dude from the WaPo on already mouthing the new line.

    These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    And they will probably succeed.

    A simple way to tell who has won in a couple years: have Comey, Clapper, and Loretta Lynch been indicted?

    They will probably throw some underlings to the dogs -- maybe those poor fools Strzok and Page.

    But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    I sincerely hope I am proven wrong.

    And, I sincerely hope they do not do to Trump what they did to Kennedy. (Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman. Now, I hope that John Kelly has some solid military people protecting Trump.)

    The United Sates is an oligarchy ruled by millionaires, disproportionately Jewish, who are the agents and whores and puppets of billionaires, disproportionately Jewish, virtually all of them united in their hatred of Trump and panic and mission to destroy his presidency. Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump “Russian collusion “investigation,” a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution. Nor result in the punishment, criminally or otherwise, of those responsible, including Hillary Clinton, or even any regrets, apologies, recantations, mea culpas, admissions of error and wrong-doing. The witch-hunt and jihad and lies will continue unabated.

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    "Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump “Russian collusion “investigation,” a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution."

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.

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  18. I’ve heard many say that the memo is not the bombshell as it was advertised. But that’s because they’ve neglected to recall that it’s directly linked to two much more important events which could not have transpired if Carter Page wasn’t illegally surveilled.

    It’s important to recall two additional events that transpired in White House about this time,

    1) Member of the White House and DOJ were unmasking the names of members of the Trump campaign and then administration to see who was saying what in those organizations (NSA surveillance had hopped to others associated with Page), and,

    2) Obama ordered widespread sharing among the U.S. intelligence agencies (and likely the foreign intelligence agencies too) of RAW, UNFILTERED NSA intelligence communication intercepts.

    THERE’S BOTH A WHITE HOUSE ANGLE AND AN INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ANGLE TO THIS…which when exposed will make this memo seem as weak as milk-toast.

    OBAMA ORDERED SURVEILLANCE OF AN ONGOING OPPOSING POLITICAL CAMPAIGN DURING THE 2016 ELECTION WITH THE OBVIOUS INTENT TO GIVE THE INFORMATION THEY GAINED FROM THAT SURVEILLANCE TO THE DOJ, FBI AND DNC SO THAT ALREADY ENERGIZED ACTORS COULD COUNTER EVERYTHING TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN DID.

    Obama illegally spied on the Trump Campaign.

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  19. MarkinLA says:
    @KenH

    Is Gen. Kelly not a proven patriot, many times over?
     
    I don't know much about General Kelly and maybe he is but I'm tired of the belief that just because someone dons a uniform and/or sports bling on their man breast that they are above reproach and criticism and entitles them to platinum membership in the patriot club.

    Regarding immigration, General Kelly seems not to be on the same page as the deplorables and is the mushy moderate as is his hand picked replacement at DHS.

    The military top brass is universally for some kind of amnesty so that they can get cannon fodder. The problem is while that used to work quite well, it is a case of diminishing returns. Very few Mexicans are joining the Marines and the Muslims aren’t going to fight for Israel. Since most refugees get welfare they aren’t interested either.

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    And we're quickly running out of white guys to do all the heavy fighting and operate all the high tech weaponry. If it wasn't for our air power we couldn't maintain our empire.

    As our military becomes increasingly third world it will eventually be dealt a crushing defeat or string of defeats by nations whose militaries are more monoracial and monocultural and thus are more cohesive and have higher morale.
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  20. Obama ordered surveillance? That would be Barack Obama, son of Barack Sr., one of CIA’s African agents flown to the East/West Center in Mboya’s airlift; and of Ann Dunham, CIA spook under USAID contractor cover who sunk the debt hook into all the Indonesians left after CIA’s genocide; and grandson of Madelyn, clerk of covert CIA money-laundering for Indonesian genocide and Indochinese coup de main and her spook hubby Stanley. Barack Obama, who went partridge hunting in college with the future acting President of Pakistan. Yes Barack Obama, invisible student at Columbia, BIC NOC, greased into Harvard by Al-Waleed bin Talal, inexplicably handed the law review and shoehorned into a U. of Chicago teaching job by the trustees after swift routine rejection, miraculously picked to speak at the 2004 convention to uniform scripted media fellatio, installed in the Senate with classic CIA ratfucks of his wannabe-swinger opponent. Barack Obama, the Senator from CIA.

    So when somebody says surveillance is “politicized,” you know he’s part of the limited hangout. Surveillance is directed by CIA cadres like Barack H. Obama. Surveillance is directed to insure CIA control.

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  21. I do not think that it is a big deal. Congress will have a hearings. Eventually Republicans will be able to put label of crooks on Democrats. Unless it will be proven that there was spying on Trump it will not go too far.

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  22. @Achmed E. Newman
    That was about to be TL/DR (finally figured out what the heck that meant about 6 months back.)

    I'll just add here that I'd like to see a guy lead the country who is 60% Ron Paul, 30% Pat Buchanan and 10% Donald Trump. (The Trump part is just for the willingness to get in the faces of the enemy directly - it's for his LACK of civility.)

    10% ain’t nearly enough of an in-your-face-attitude. Ron Paul can’t bring himself to even be critical of people who would cut his throat on stage and skate around in his blood laughing. Buchanan is the kindly elder type who won’t take his own side in a fight. 10% of their instincts for individual liberty is all there’s room for in a president in today’s political atmosphere. 90% should be fistfighter.

    Of course, that leaves Trump out on all counts.

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    Ball of Yarn.
    Please do not underestimate Paul Ryan. I have never seen so cautious, cunning, and calculating person as Paul Ryan. This move is only the yarn end. Paul already said that he wants to read all FISA records. The ball of yarn will be unwinding.
    Eventually he will get there that Trump camp was spied on. Democrats were in panic including CNN. Now they are relaxing. Wait until Congress will link the affair to spying on Trump camp. The heads will roll.
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You can read Nunes memo here.

    Memo!
    https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html

    Maybe you are American, so this is only reminder.

    In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate.

    So Paul Ryan is the Absolute BOSS here.
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  23. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Renoman wrote:

    I can’t wait to hear the squeals.
     
    Nope, not gonna happen.

    I was going to write that, after the memo is released, the Dems, the Deep State, and the MSM will all swivel 180 degrees and declare that this horribly dangerous memo they have been denouncing so rabidly is really just a complete nothingburger that no one need pay any attention to at all.

    But, I am too late. The new party line is already out: Earlier this evening, I was watching a few minutes of the Brian Williams show on MSNBC, and the old pathological liar had a dude from the WaPo on already mouthing the new line.

    These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    And they will probably succeed.

    A simple way to tell who has won in a couple years: have Comey, Clapper, and Loretta Lynch been indicted?

    They will probably throw some underlings to the dogs -- maybe those poor fools Strzok and Page.

    But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    I sincerely hope I am proven wrong.

    And, I sincerely hope they do not do to Trump what they did to Kennedy. (Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman. Now, I hope that John Kelly has some solid military people protecting Trump.)

    >These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    Sociopaths tend to be that way. They never, ever admit to a wrong, because their brains literally won’t let them.

    >But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    Not least because Trump simply never had confronting them in mind.

    >Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman.

    I still do, though I do believe there was a coverup for the sake of keeping the peace. Just not for the reasons that the media would like to believe, what with Oswald having a shady Communist-laden past… such a crock, turning that little Castro admiring idiot into a right-winger.

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe. They have maybe a mean, animal cunning for dealing with the masses at best-certainly no Machiavellian brilliance that would enable one to seriously compete in the ancient art of statescraft, let alone foreign policy. In a way, that makes things far worse, actually-far more likely to set off something ugly by accident. So much of America’s current predicaments can be attributed to pure ideological fueled ignorance and a lack of capability for appreciating complex realities, as opposed to some pretty master plan. You always need to fear, above all else, those with low-level tactical competence that allows them to gain power, but no strategic vision to use it properly.

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    nebulafox wrote to me:

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe.
     
    Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates ("five or six," because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    On the other hand, I have also known a large number of people in the academic world who were not Nobelists but who had a lot of political pull, not matched by any actual scientific achievements. They ranged from despicable to utter human scum.

    I've also known a number of "influential" people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let's just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    As to your comment on the intelligence of the political elite... Chuck Schumer claims SAT scores similar to my own. The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc.

    Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suppose he and I both used our intelligence to achieve our personal goals. We just had different personal goals.

    Dave

    , @NoseytheDuke
    Anyone thinking Oswald acted alone is obviously too lazy to read or care about the coup that took place. It's unlikely LHO even fired a shot but was actually set up to be a patsy from the start.
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  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The media weren’t ‘had’. They knew the Russia thing was bunk. Big Media operate in tandem with the Democratic Party. They’re a separate division of the same corporation.

    They have no problem distorting the facts to push their interests — they’ll outright lie if necessary, and won’t lose a wink of sleep over it.

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  25. @The Alarmist

    "What is the press corps afraid of? For it has not ceased keening and caterwauling that this memo must not see the light of day ....

    ... FBI Director Chris Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein slipped into the White House to plead with Kelly to keep the Republican memo secret. Wednesday, both went public to warn the White House against doing what Trump said he was going to do."

     

    Cockroaches scurrying as the lights go on.

    Never was an analogy more apt.

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  26. Corvinus says:
    @SMK
    The United Sates is an oligarchy ruled by millionaires, disproportionately Jewish, who are the agents and whores and puppets of billionaires, disproportionately Jewish, virtually all of them united in their hatred of Trump and panic and mission to destroy his presidency. Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump "Russian collusion "investigation," a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution. Nor result in the punishment, criminally or otherwise, of those responsible, including Hillary Clinton, or even any regrets, apologies, recantations, mea culpas, admissions of error and wrong-doing. The witch-hunt and jihad and lies will continue unabated.

    “Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump “Russian collusion “investigation,” a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution.”

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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    Crazy Old Corvy wrote to SMK:

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.
     
    Oh, c'mon, Corvy! You linked to a bunch of disconnected comments interspersed with some silly cartoons!

    Look: the WaPo and other news outlets reported early in the week that the weenie Rosenstein and Wray went to John Kelly and tried to convince him that release of the memo would endanger classified information. We have now seen the memo. They lied. (I actually did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s: unlike you, I actually know what is involved in protecting classified information.)

    Let me repeat that: they lied.

    Everyone knows that now.

    If Trump has any guts, he will start publicly describing Rosie and Wray as contemptible little pathological liars who deserve no respect from their peers or subordinates, until the two little crybabies wander off into the darkness.

    And, you, Corvy? Oh, you already get no respect from anyone.

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  27. @Twodees Partain
    10% ain't nearly enough of an in-your-face-attitude. Ron Paul can't bring himself to even be critical of people who would cut his throat on stage and skate around in his blood laughing. Buchanan is the kindly elder type who won't take his own side in a fight. 10% of their instincts for individual liberty is all there's room for in a president in today's political atmosphere. 90% should be fistfighter.

    Of course, that leaves Trump out on all counts.

    Ball of Yarn.
    Please do not underestimate Paul Ryan. I have never seen so cautious, cunning, and calculating person as Paul Ryan. This move is only the yarn end. Paul already said that he wants to read all FISA records. The ball of yarn will be unwinding.
    Eventually he will get there that Trump camp was spied on. Democrats were in panic including CNN. Now they are relaxing. Wait until Congress will link the affair to spying on Trump camp. The heads will roll.

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  28. 1035-960 says:

    Publius Tacitus tactlessly points to the big plump turd bobbing in the punchbowl.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/02/the-fbi-and-cia-failed-coup-against-trump-unravels-by-publius-tacitus.html?cid=6a00d8341c72e153ef01b7c94c6075970b

    Of course this is CIA’s ratfeck. CIA initiated it at home with one of their patented “interagency working groups” of CIA and CIA moles in other departments. They gave it hokey tall tales to chew on, fever dreams from intel suckups in New Europe – not from agents, they don’t have any deep enough in Russia.

    Trump’s survival depends on making it clear what this investigation is: CIA liquidating a prominent dissident as an enemy of state.

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  29. @Twodees Partain
    10% ain't nearly enough of an in-your-face-attitude. Ron Paul can't bring himself to even be critical of people who would cut his throat on stage and skate around in his blood laughing. Buchanan is the kindly elder type who won't take his own side in a fight. 10% of their instincts for individual liberty is all there's room for in a president in today's political atmosphere. 90% should be fistfighter.

    Of course, that leaves Trump out on all counts.

    You can read Nunes memo here.

    Memo!

    https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html

    Maybe you are American, so this is only reminder.

    In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate.

    So Paul Ryan is the Absolute BOSS here.

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    "In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate."

    No, they don't. No branch of government is all powerful, but the executive branch holds the power of law enforcement. Congress can pass legislation defunding departments, but that takes some unity among them. They can also impeach some judges or even abolish a court or two that they created by legislation, but that also takes unity, which doesn't exist to any great degree in that branch.

    Ryan can't really do much here. A memo was passed to the Executive. What comes of it is anybody's guess. If past history can give us a clue, it's entirely possible that nothing much comes of this. I hope I'm wrong in my suspicion that nothing much will be done.
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  30. KA says:

    cjr.org reports According to a study by Harvard’s Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, Trump was the focus of 41 percent of American news coverage in his first 100 days in office. That’s three times the amount of coverage showered on previous presidents. This laser-eyed focus on Trump has left little room for other crucial stories.” quoted by MoA

    One hopes that this effect will show up in other domestic areas profiting from the foreign conflicts .

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  31. @Corvinus
    "Thus I doubt this memo, whatever it reveals, will end the anti-Trump “Russian collusion “investigation,” a malevolent witch-hunt that in 16 months has not unearthed a scintilla of evidence that warrants impeachment or criminal prosecution."

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Crazy Old Corvy wrote to SMK:

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.

    Oh, c’mon, Corvy! You linked to a bunch of disconnected comments interspersed with some silly cartoons!

    Look: the WaPo and other news outlets reported early in the week that the weenie Rosenstein and Wray went to John Kelly and tried to convince him that release of the memo would endanger classified information. We have now seen the memo. They lied. (I actually did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the ’80s and ’90s: unlike you, I actually know what is involved in protecting classified information.)

    Let me repeat that: they lied.

    Everyone knows that now.

    If Trump has any guts, he will start publicly describing Rosie and Wray as contemptible little pathological liars who deserve no respect from their peers or subordinates, until the two little crybabies wander off into the darkness.

    And, you, Corvy? Oh, you already get no respect from anyone.

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    "You linked to a bunch of disconnected comments interspersed with some silly cartoons!"

    That's entirely inaccurate. Everything is clearly laid out. Your emotions are getting the best of your intellectual sensibilities.

    "Let me repeat that: they lied."

    That's what you have to do to maintain the narrative. It was a four-page summary that contained several inaccuracies and falsehoods.

    I'm glad it was released.
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  32. @nebulafox
    >These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    Sociopaths tend to be that way. They never, ever admit to a wrong, because their brains literally won't let them.

    >But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    Not least because Trump simply never had confronting them in mind.

    >Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman.

    I still do, though I do believe there was a coverup for the sake of keeping the peace. Just not for the reasons that the media would like to believe, what with Oswald having a shady Communist-laden past... such a crock, turning that little Castro admiring idiot into a right-winger.

    If you've interacted with sections of America's elite, as I have, you'll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe. They have maybe a mean, animal cunning for dealing with the masses at best-certainly no Machiavellian brilliance that would enable one to seriously compete in the ancient art of statescraft, let alone foreign policy. In a way, that makes things far worse, actually-far more likely to set off something ugly by accident. So much of America's current predicaments can be attributed to pure ideological fueled ignorance and a lack of capability for appreciating complex realities, as opposed to some pretty master plan. You always need to fear, above all else, those with low-level tactical competence that allows them to gain power, but no strategic vision to use it properly.

    nebulafox wrote to me:

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe.

    Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates (“five or six,” because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    On the other hand, I have also known a large number of people in the academic world who were not Nobelists but who had a lot of political pull, not matched by any actual scientific achievements. They ranged from despicable to utter human scum.

    I’ve also known a number of “influential” people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let’s just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    As to your comment on the intelligence of the political elite… Chuck Schumer claims SAT scores similar to my own. The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc.

    Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suppose he and I both used our intelligence to achieve our personal goals. We just had different personal goals.

    Dave

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    >Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates (“five or six,” because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    I'm a condensed matter theorist manque. I'm still utterly, totally jealous.

    >I’ve also known a number of “influential” people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let’s just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    No, I totally get that-I don't think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either. Same for a lot of the people I met throughout my childhood. The problem is, they don't seem to be the ones directing where our nation is going.

    > The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc. Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suspect it takes a lot more intelligence, though, to do the former than to accomplish the latter. Or at least that's been my experience for my own attempts at learning. I'm a completely mediocre intellect, but I can observe and think about politics in a reasonably convincing fashion. I suspect that's the same for a lot of people in Congress.

    I suppose there's also the fact that intelligence is no safeguard against maliciousness, ideological fanaticism, or just plain evil. The Khmer Rouge was dominated by intellectuals to a degree probably unmatched by any other government in history-all educated in Paris in the 1950s, where they picked up Marxism, and many of them being half-Chinese, which in the context of Indochina, usually means members of the bourgeois trading class that had a shot at education to begin with.

    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What does it means Noble?
    , @DaveE
    Don't take Chuckie "The Genius" Schumer's perfect SAT score(s) seriously.

    In 1978, a bunch of friends and I were having a conversation about what we were gonna do if we didn't do well in our upcoming SAT exams. We were nervous, to say the least.

    Out of nowhere, my best friend at the time, a Jew, blurted out something very similar to, "Ya' know, I've heard there is a secret phone number you can call and if you pay enough money, you can get your SAT scores altered to whatever you are willing to pay for."

    He didn't mention where you could get this "secret phone number", but I'm pretty sure the capitalists who administered the SAT exams (a company called Kaplan Industries, at the time) made it known SOMEWHERE that an SAT score was a commodity, to be bought for the highest possible rate.

    My Jewish "friend" obviously knew the all-else-fails trick to Jewish admission to ANY university.

    Chuckie Schumer had the right "connections" and a LOT of money. It doesn't take a 1600 SAT score to figure out the rest.......
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  33. Forbes says:
    @WorkingClass
    The corporate media are enemies of the people.

    Corporate media is in the business of delivering profits on behalf of their shareholders. They are in the entertainment business. Shame on anyone who sees legacy or social media as sources of factual and timely information, i.e. news. News is merely an incidental–even accidental–by-product of their efforts to capture your attention; viewership, page views, eyeballs being the basis of their advertising revenues.

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  34. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave
    nebulafox wrote to me:

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe.
     
    Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates ("five or six," because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    On the other hand, I have also known a large number of people in the academic world who were not Nobelists but who had a lot of political pull, not matched by any actual scientific achievements. They ranged from despicable to utter human scum.

    I've also known a number of "influential" people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let's just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    As to your comment on the intelligence of the political elite... Chuck Schumer claims SAT scores similar to my own. The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc.

    Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suppose he and I both used our intelligence to achieve our personal goals. We just had different personal goals.

    Dave

    >Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates (“five or six,” because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    I’m a condensed matter theorist manque. I’m still utterly, totally jealous.

    >I’ve also known a number of “influential” people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let’s just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    No, I totally get that-I don’t think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either. Same for a lot of the people I met throughout my childhood. The problem is, they don’t seem to be the ones directing where our nation is going.

    > The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc. Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suspect it takes a lot more intelligence, though, to do the former than to accomplish the latter. Or at least that’s been my experience for my own attempts at learning. I’m a completely mediocre intellect, but I can observe and think about politics in a reasonably convincing fashion. I suspect that’s the same for a lot of people in Congress.

    I suppose there’s also the fact that intelligence is no safeguard against maliciousness, ideological fanaticism, or just plain evil. The Khmer Rouge was dominated by intellectuals to a degree probably unmatched by any other government in history-all educated in Paris in the 1950s, where they picked up Marxism, and many of them being half-Chinese, which in the context of Indochina, usually means members of the bourgeois trading class that had a shot at education to begin with.

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    nebulafox wrote to me:

    No, I totally get that-I don’t think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either.
     
    Yeah. In my case, the technical work for the Intelligence Community was actually quite interesting and challenging, my fellow engineers were okay, and the brief interaction I had with people from the government was actually okay too (again, these were technical people, not political appointees such as Clapper or Comey).

    A lot of the mid- to high-level managers I saw among the contractors were definitely not men of integrity, alas. A case can be made that the incentive structure (cost-plus, etc.) was the ultimate cause: i.e., the Hayekian argument that the "worst rise to the top" in any system that does not punish bad actors.

    By the way, when I was a kid, my great-uncle was a special agent with the FBI: he was really a great guy. But, of course, even today the problem is not with guys like my great-uncle but rather with the top-level people who right now seem to be corrupt.

    nebulafox also wrote:

    I’m a condensed matter theorist manque. I’m still utterly, totally jealous.
     
    Well, have you seen this semi-autobiography by the string theorist Joe Polchinski? Joe and I were undergrads together, he is now considered one of the very top guys among string theorists, and I know myself that he is indeed very, very bright.

    And, yet, his memoirs are sort of bitter-sweet. Pretty much nothing he has done has led to any experimentally testable results. It is not at all clear if most of his work will even turn out to be mathematically consistent or if the whole of contemporary superstring theory will turn out to be a house of cards (Joe, of course, would bet on consistency; I myself just do not know).

    So... should you and I wish we had had Joe's career -- the endowed chair at UCSB, the fame (among physicists, that is), his winning of the 2017 Breakthrough Prize (apparently Joe got a million bucks for that!), etc.?

    I don't know -- I took general relativity from Kip Thorne, and indicated to Kip I was doubtful they'd ever detect gravitational waves. But Kip and his many colleagues proved me wrong. So, sometimes lifelong work in pure physics pays off.

    But, perhaps Polchinski's experience is more typical -- a brilliant guy working very hard throughout his adult life and yet no one knows if any of his work will ever turn out to be of significant long-term value.

    (By the way, I have met Joe's wife and will endorse his claim that she is most definitely the best thing that ever happened to Joe. When a mutual friend and I met Dorothy, we were amazed Joe had found such a perfect match for himself.)

    Dave
    , @PhysicistDave
    nebulafox,

    Very sadly, a few minutes after posting my previous message, I found out that Joe Polchinski passed away yesterday, February 2.

    Which is a very sad, but telling, reflection on how unpredictable the real world can be.

    Joe was only a few months older than me (though one year ahead at Caltech); we were both in Blacker House. I got to know him again when I was finishing my doctorate and he was a post-doc at Stanford.

    The thoughts of all of us who knew Joe are with Dorothy and their children.

    Dave

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  35. @nebulafox
    >These people are completely shameless: they will not panic, they will not admit their guilt, they will just try to further manipulate the American people to maintain their power.

    Sociopaths tend to be that way. They never, ever admit to a wrong, because their brains literally won't let them.

    >But our Permanent Ruling Class will remain in control.

    Not least because Trump simply never had confronting them in mind.

    >Until recently, I really thought Oswald was the lone gunman.

    I still do, though I do believe there was a coverup for the sake of keeping the peace. Just not for the reasons that the media would like to believe, what with Oswald having a shady Communist-laden past... such a crock, turning that little Castro admiring idiot into a right-winger.

    If you've interacted with sections of America's elite, as I have, you'll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe. They have maybe a mean, animal cunning for dealing with the masses at best-certainly no Machiavellian brilliance that would enable one to seriously compete in the ancient art of statescraft, let alone foreign policy. In a way, that makes things far worse, actually-far more likely to set off something ugly by accident. So much of America's current predicaments can be attributed to pure ideological fueled ignorance and a lack of capability for appreciating complex realities, as opposed to some pretty master plan. You always need to fear, above all else, those with low-level tactical competence that allows them to gain power, but no strategic vision to use it properly.

    Anyone thinking Oswald acted alone is obviously too lazy to read or care about the coup that took place. It’s unlikely LHO even fired a shot but was actually set up to be a patsy from the start.

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    Have you seen the 6 part doco featuring the investigations (starting with high tech data base searches on recently declasdified documents) by a retired CIA man, Bob Baer, and an ex cop which goes through the story without signs of obvious BS concluding that the KGB sensibly didn't want a bar of Oswald but that he got much closer to the Cubans and was indeed in league with a rogue anti Castro Cuban group called Alpha 66 that was angry with Kennedy because of feeling betrayed at Bay of Pigs, some of whose members had received training feom the CIA, but had been infiltrated by Cuban double agents. It gives the impression of being glib but still thorough and professional. There were some interesting acoustic demonstrations in Dealey Plaza but it didn't seem to rule out, and didn't mention, the also plausible (to me) version that has an accidental shot from the car behind killing Kennedy. It did rule out a shot from the grassy knoll being necessary to explain the way Kennedy's head moved.
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  36. @PhysicistDave
    nebulafox wrote to me:

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe.
     
    Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates ("five or six," because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    On the other hand, I have also known a large number of people in the academic world who were not Nobelists but who had a lot of political pull, not matched by any actual scientific achievements. They ranged from despicable to utter human scum.

    I've also known a number of "influential" people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let's just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    As to your comment on the intelligence of the political elite... Chuck Schumer claims SAT scores similar to my own. The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc.

    Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suppose he and I both used our intelligence to achieve our personal goals. We just had different personal goals.

    Dave

    What does it means Noble?

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    You couldn't resist.

    I had already concluded that you're a pretty adroit troll. But your playing dumb on the typo using the Natasha voice confirms it.

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  37. @Ilyana_Rozumova
    You can read Nunes memo here.

    Memo!
    https://www.axios.com/read-nunes-memo-fbi-doj-fisa-mueller-7fb8bcb7-1f18-4294-aa95-628d2f67bcdf.html

    Maybe you are American, so this is only reminder.

    In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate.

    So Paul Ryan is the Absolute BOSS here.

    “In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate.”

    No, they don’t. No branch of government is all powerful, but the executive branch holds the power of law enforcement. Congress can pass legislation defunding departments, but that takes some unity among them. They can also impeach some judges or even abolish a court or two that they created by legislation, but that also takes unity, which doesn’t exist to any great degree in that branch.

    Ryan can’t really do much here. A memo was passed to the Executive. What comes of it is anybody’s guess. If past history can give us a clue, it’s entirely possible that nothing much comes of this. I hope I’m wrong in my suspicion that nothing much will be done.

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    My interpretation of Paul's statement was that he wants to investigate in congress several FISA records.
    If he finds that Trump's camp was spied on, that will be the goal, of this affair.
    He may not be successful , but then he maybe will.
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  38. @nebulafox
    >Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates (“five or six,” because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    I'm a condensed matter theorist manque. I'm still utterly, totally jealous.

    >I’ve also known a number of “influential” people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let’s just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    No, I totally get that-I don't think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either. Same for a lot of the people I met throughout my childhood. The problem is, they don't seem to be the ones directing where our nation is going.

    > The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc. Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suspect it takes a lot more intelligence, though, to do the former than to accomplish the latter. Or at least that's been my experience for my own attempts at learning. I'm a completely mediocre intellect, but I can observe and think about politics in a reasonably convincing fashion. I suspect that's the same for a lot of people in Congress.

    I suppose there's also the fact that intelligence is no safeguard against maliciousness, ideological fanaticism, or just plain evil. The Khmer Rouge was dominated by intellectuals to a degree probably unmatched by any other government in history-all educated in Paris in the 1950s, where they picked up Marxism, and many of them being half-Chinese, which in the context of Indochina, usually means members of the bourgeois trading class that had a shot at education to begin with.

    nebulafox wrote to me:

    No, I totally get that-I don’t think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either.

    Yeah. In my case, the technical work for the Intelligence Community was actually quite interesting and challenging, my fellow engineers were okay, and the brief interaction I had with people from the government was actually okay too (again, these were technical people, not political appointees such as Clapper or Comey).

    A lot of the mid- to high-level managers I saw among the contractors were definitely not men of integrity, alas. A case can be made that the incentive structure (cost-plus, etc.) was the ultimate cause: i.e., the Hayekian argument that the “worst rise to the top” in any system that does not punish bad actors.

    By the way, when I was a kid, my great-uncle was a special agent with the FBI: he was really a great guy. But, of course, even today the problem is not with guys like my great-uncle but rather with the top-level people who right now seem to be corrupt.

    nebulafox also wrote:

    I’m a condensed matter theorist manque. I’m still utterly, totally jealous.

    Well, have you seen this semi-autobiography by the string theorist Joe Polchinski? Joe and I were undergrads together, he is now considered one of the very top guys among string theorists, and I know myself that he is indeed very, very bright.

    And, yet, his memoirs are sort of bitter-sweet. Pretty much nothing he has done has led to any experimentally testable results. It is not at all clear if most of his work will even turn out to be mathematically consistent or if the whole of contemporary superstring theory will turn out to be a house of cards (Joe, of course, would bet on consistency; I myself just do not know).

    So… should you and I wish we had had Joe’s career — the endowed chair at UCSB, the fame (among physicists, that is), his winning of the 2017 Breakthrough Prize (apparently Joe got a million bucks for that!), etc.?

    I don’t know — I took general relativity from Kip Thorne, and indicated to Kip I was doubtful they’d ever detect gravitational waves. But Kip and his many colleagues proved me wrong. So, sometimes lifelong work in pure physics pays off.

    But, perhaps Polchinski’s experience is more typical — a brilliant guy working very hard throughout his adult life and yet no one knows if any of his work will ever turn out to be of significant long-term value.

    (By the way, I have met Joe’s wife and will endorse his claim that she is most definitely the best thing that ever happened to Joe. When a mutual friend and I met Dorothy, we were amazed Joe had found such a perfect match for himself.)

    Dave

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  39. @nebulafox
    >Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates (“five or six,” because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    I'm a condensed matter theorist manque. I'm still utterly, totally jealous.

    >I’ve also known a number of “influential” people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let’s just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    No, I totally get that-I don't think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either. Same for a lot of the people I met throughout my childhood. The problem is, they don't seem to be the ones directing where our nation is going.

    > The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc. Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suspect it takes a lot more intelligence, though, to do the former than to accomplish the latter. Or at least that's been my experience for my own attempts at learning. I'm a completely mediocre intellect, but I can observe and think about politics in a reasonably convincing fashion. I suspect that's the same for a lot of people in Congress.

    I suppose there's also the fact that intelligence is no safeguard against maliciousness, ideological fanaticism, or just plain evil. The Khmer Rouge was dominated by intellectuals to a degree probably unmatched by any other government in history-all educated in Paris in the 1950s, where they picked up Marxism, and many of them being half-Chinese, which in the context of Indochina, usually means members of the bourgeois trading class that had a shot at education to begin with.

    nebulafox,

    Very sadly, a few minutes after posting my previous message, I found out that Joe Polchinski passed away yesterday, February 2.

    Which is a very sad, but telling, reflection on how unpredictable the real world can be.

    Joe was only a few months older than me (though one year ahead at Caltech); we were both in Blacker House. I got to know him again when I was finishing my doctorate and he was a post-doc at Stanford.

    The thoughts of all of us who knew Joe are with Dorothy and their children.

    Dave

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  40. RobinG says:
    @PhysicistDave
    nebulafox wrote to me:

    No, I totally get that-I don’t think my father, a longtime IC professional, belonged behind bars, either.
     
    Yeah. In my case, the technical work for the Intelligence Community was actually quite interesting and challenging, my fellow engineers were okay, and the brief interaction I had with people from the government was actually okay too (again, these were technical people, not political appointees such as Clapper or Comey).

    A lot of the mid- to high-level managers I saw among the contractors were definitely not men of integrity, alas. A case can be made that the incentive structure (cost-plus, etc.) was the ultimate cause: i.e., the Hayekian argument that the "worst rise to the top" in any system that does not punish bad actors.

    By the way, when I was a kid, my great-uncle was a special agent with the FBI: he was really a great guy. But, of course, even today the problem is not with guys like my great-uncle but rather with the top-level people who right now seem to be corrupt.

    nebulafox also wrote:

    I’m a condensed matter theorist manque. I’m still utterly, totally jealous.
     
    Well, have you seen this semi-autobiography by the string theorist Joe Polchinski? Joe and I were undergrads together, he is now considered one of the very top guys among string theorists, and I know myself that he is indeed very, very bright.

    And, yet, his memoirs are sort of bitter-sweet. Pretty much nothing he has done has led to any experimentally testable results. It is not at all clear if most of his work will even turn out to be mathematically consistent or if the whole of contemporary superstring theory will turn out to be a house of cards (Joe, of course, would bet on consistency; I myself just do not know).

    So... should you and I wish we had had Joe's career -- the endowed chair at UCSB, the fame (among physicists, that is), his winning of the 2017 Breakthrough Prize (apparently Joe got a million bucks for that!), etc.?

    I don't know -- I took general relativity from Kip Thorne, and indicated to Kip I was doubtful they'd ever detect gravitational waves. But Kip and his many colleagues proved me wrong. So, sometimes lifelong work in pure physics pays off.

    But, perhaps Polchinski's experience is more typical -- a brilliant guy working very hard throughout his adult life and yet no one knows if any of his work will ever turn out to be of significant long-term value.

    (By the way, I have met Joe's wife and will endorse his claim that she is most definitely the best thing that ever happened to Joe. When a mutual friend and I met Dorothy, we were amazed Joe had found such a perfect match for himself.)

    Dave

    ” I saw among the contractors…” Beltway Bandits.

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  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What does it means Noble?

    You couldn’t resist.

    I had already concluded that you’re a pretty adroit troll. But your playing dumb on the typo using the Natasha voice confirms it.

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    How many times is the typo still a typo. Use your scientific brain. And who was Kafka?
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  42. n230099 says:

    This Mueller stuff has morphed into an ‘OJ looking for the real killers’ thing.

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  43. @anonymous
    You couldn't resist.

    I had already concluded that you're a pretty adroit troll. But your playing dumb on the typo using the Natasha voice confirms it.

    How many times is the typo still a typo. Use your scientific brain. And who was Kafka?

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  44. @Twodees Partain
    "In cases like this (civil liberty) Congress overrules FBI, CIA. DOJ, Muller, All judges, President, and even Senate."

    No, they don't. No branch of government is all powerful, but the executive branch holds the power of law enforcement. Congress can pass legislation defunding departments, but that takes some unity among them. They can also impeach some judges or even abolish a court or two that they created by legislation, but that also takes unity, which doesn't exist to any great degree in that branch.

    Ryan can't really do much here. A memo was passed to the Executive. What comes of it is anybody's guess. If past history can give us a clue, it's entirely possible that nothing much comes of this. I hope I'm wrong in my suspicion that nothing much will be done.

    My interpretation of Paul’s statement was that he wants to investigate in congress several FISA records.
    If he finds that Trump’s camp was spied on, that will be the goal, of this affair.
    He may not be successful , but then he maybe will.

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  45. Steele’s involvement is the most embarrassing part of this bathetic CIA cockup. The furious obfuscation around Steele is an attempt to hide FBI focal points who work for CIA, trying to overthrow the Russia government (like Steele’s hapless coworker Levinson.) This NCS operation fabricates CCPR-illegal war propaganda in an inchoate crime against peace: false reports of suitcase nukes, Kolchuga passive-sensor proliferation, CWC violations, trans-national organized crime, anything at all that might stick to the wall. CIA tasked Steele’s ongoing coercive-interference project to destroy an unauthorized presidential candidate.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2018/02/habakkuk-on-longtime-sources.html

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  46. DaveE says:
    @PhysicistDave
    nebulafox wrote to me:

    If you’ve interacted with sections of America’s elite, as I have, you’ll come to realize that these people are nowhere near as competent or intelligent as they like to believe.
     
    Well, understandably, since I am a physicist, the elite I have interacted with most closely is in the scientific world. I have taken classes from or worked for or with five or six Noble laureates ("five or six," because I was working on a project headed by Barry Barish, but my own interactions were mainly with Frank Sciulli, not Barry). I will say that these Noble laureates really were bright, and, even more than bright, they were very hard-working. As far as I know, they were also honorable men.

    On the other hand, I have also known a large number of people in the academic world who were not Nobelists but who had a lot of political pull, not matched by any actual scientific achievements. They ranged from despicable to utter human scum.

    I've also known a number of "influential" people in the community of Intelligence Community contractors, in the medical community, etc. Let's just say they did not all belong behind bars! My connections to the political elite have been the usual two or three degrees of separation: e.g., passing contact with our state Assembly members, friends who clerked for Congress, etc.

    As to your comment on the intelligence of the political elite... Chuck Schumer claims SAT scores similar to my own. The difference is that I used my brains to learn physics, math, economics, (I came close to doing a post-doc in econ that I was offered after getting my Ph.D. in physics), etc.

    Schumer used his brains to help wreck the US health-care system, to wreak havoc on the US economy, etc., and of course to keep getting himself re-elected.

    I suppose he and I both used our intelligence to achieve our personal goals. We just had different personal goals.

    Dave

    Don’t take Chuckie “The Genius” Schumer’s perfect SAT score(s) seriously.

    In 1978, a bunch of friends and I were having a conversation about what we were gonna do if we didn’t do well in our upcoming SAT exams. We were nervous, to say the least.

    Out of nowhere, my best friend at the time, a Jew, blurted out something very similar to, “Ya’ know, I’ve heard there is a secret phone number you can call and if you pay enough money, you can get your SAT scores altered to whatever you are willing to pay for.”

    He didn’t mention where you could get this “secret phone number”, but I’m pretty sure the capitalists who administered the SAT exams (a company called Kaplan Industries, at the time) made it known SOMEWHERE that an SAT score was a commodity, to be bought for the highest possible rate.

    My Jewish “friend” obviously knew the all-else-fails trick to Jewish admission to ANY university.

    Chuckie Schumer had the right “connections” and a LOT of money. It doesn’t take a 1600 SAT score to figure out the rest…….

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    Apart from his SAT scorr ehst is Shumer's academic record?
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  47. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So Hillary and company claimed Trump colluded with foreign powers to ‘hack’ the election, all the while they were colluding with foreign powers via the FBI to hack the election. Sounds about right. I usually find that the opposite of whatever the left/MSM is telling me about politics/race/gender, etc is more often correct than their line. And they frequently accuse the right of things that they are actively doing.

    This kind of behavior reminds me of a certain saying about a certain group that screams in pain while stabbing you in the back. This behavior certainly has their signature behavioral fingerprints all over it.

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  48. Eagle Eye says:
    @Alfa158
    Mr. Buchanan gives the media too much credit for sincerity and good will. The elite media was not had, were not exploited, or used, and are not blind to reality. They are loyal soldiers of the deep state. The Russia narrative is a willful deception on their part in an effort to reverse an election, or at least obstruct the Trump agenda. They know what is real, what is not, and what they want in the end.

    Agree that Buchanan gives the FBI etc. way too much credit for sincerity.

    Also Buchanan is almost certainly quite wrong on the Deep State Big Lie:

    In accumulating his Russian dirt, Steele was spoon-fed by old comrades in the Kremlin’s security apparatus.

    In reality, it makes NO SENSE for Steele to go to the trouble of obtaining information from the actual FSB which will expect some quid pro quo.

    Much easier for Steele just to get hold of one or two alcoholic writers in Russia and pretend to believe that he obtained real FSB stuff from them. De facto, Steele pulled the “Russian” material out of his derriere as instructed by his client Fusion GPS representing Hillary and the Deep State.

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  49. Corvinus says:
    @PhysicistDave
    Crazy Old Corvy wrote to SMK:

    That would be Fake News on your part. Please, educate yourself.
     
    Oh, c'mon, Corvy! You linked to a bunch of disconnected comments interspersed with some silly cartoons!

    Look: the WaPo and other news outlets reported early in the week that the weenie Rosenstein and Wray went to John Kelly and tried to convince him that release of the memo would endanger classified information. We have now seen the memo. They lied. (I actually did technical work for the US Intelligence Community back in the '80s and '90s: unlike you, I actually know what is involved in protecting classified information.)

    Let me repeat that: they lied.

    Everyone knows that now.

    If Trump has any guts, he will start publicly describing Rosie and Wray as contemptible little pathological liars who deserve no respect from their peers or subordinates, until the two little crybabies wander off into the darkness.

    And, you, Corvy? Oh, you already get no respect from anyone.

    “You linked to a bunch of disconnected comments interspersed with some silly cartoons!”

    That’s entirely inaccurate. Everything is clearly laid out. Your emotions are getting the best of your intellectual sensibilities.

    “Let me repeat that: they lied.”

    That’s what you have to do to maintain the narrative. It was a four-page summary that contained several inaccuracies and falsehoods.

    I’m glad it was released.

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  50. Since it appears that discussion of the memo here at Unz Review is dwindling, maybe this will boost it a little:

    https://tomluongo.me/2018/02/02/the-fisa-memo-obama-and-the-election-that-almost-wasnt/

    Tom Luongo’s article is timely.

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  51. KenH says:
    @MarkinLA
    The military top brass is universally for some kind of amnesty so that they can get cannon fodder. The problem is while that used to work quite well, it is a case of diminishing returns. Very few Mexicans are joining the Marines and the Muslims aren't going to fight for Israel. Since most refugees get welfare they aren't interested either.

    And we’re quickly running out of white guys to do all the heavy fighting and operate all the high tech weaponry. If it wasn’t for our air power we couldn’t maintain our empire.

    As our military becomes increasingly third world it will eventually be dealt a crushing defeat or string of defeats by nations whose militaries are more monoracial and monocultural and thus are more cohesive and have higher morale.

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  52. Trump should fire everyone Obama hired and then prosecute all the senior TH
    I clowns.

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  53. paddy is a clown.

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  54. Svigor says:

    You have to be completely stupid, or completely apathetic, to not see Big Media for the lying pack of weasels that they are (apologies to weasels). They aren’t even trying anymore.

    His findings may explain last week’s sudden resignation of McCabe

    Ah, good news. I go incommunicado for a few weeks, and I miss the departure of a baron of the swamp rats.

    Trump-haters in the press may be terrified that the memo may credibly demonstrate that the “Deplorables” were right, that the elite media have been had, that they were exploited and used by the “deep state,”

    Nigga, please. Big Media was begging to be “had.” They were the ones doing the “having.” The whores just don’t want the public knowing they write off pallets of condoms as a business expense.

    Mr. Buchanan gives the media too much credit for sincerity and good will.

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.

    They are loyal soldiers of the deep state.

    As long as it remains a leftist deep shit state, sure. Should that ever change, it’ll be back to calling them “baby-killers.”

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  55. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Anyone thinking Oswald acted alone is obviously too lazy to read or care about the coup that took place. It's unlikely LHO even fired a shot but was actually set up to be a patsy from the start.

    Have you seen the 6 part doco featuring the investigations (starting with high tech data base searches on recently declasdified documents) by a retired CIA man, Bob Baer, and an ex cop which goes through the story without signs of obvious BS concluding that the KGB sensibly didn’t want a bar of Oswald but that he got much closer to the Cubans and was indeed in league with a rogue anti Castro Cuban group called Alpha 66 that was angry with Kennedy because of feeling betrayed at Bay of Pigs, some of whose members had received training feom the CIA, but had been infiltrated by Cuban double agents. It gives the impression of being glib but still thorough and professional. There were some interesting acoustic demonstrations in Dealey Plaza but it didn’t seem to rule out, and didn’t mention, the also plausible (to me) version that has an accidental shot from the car behind killing Kennedy. It did rule out a shot from the grassy knoll being necessary to explain the way Kennedy’s head moved.

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  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @DaveE
    Don't take Chuckie "The Genius" Schumer's perfect SAT score(s) seriously.

    In 1978, a bunch of friends and I were having a conversation about what we were gonna do if we didn't do well in our upcoming SAT exams. We were nervous, to say the least.

    Out of nowhere, my best friend at the time, a Jew, blurted out something very similar to, "Ya' know, I've heard there is a secret phone number you can call and if you pay enough money, you can get your SAT scores altered to whatever you are willing to pay for."

    He didn't mention where you could get this "secret phone number", but I'm pretty sure the capitalists who administered the SAT exams (a company called Kaplan Industries, at the time) made it known SOMEWHERE that an SAT score was a commodity, to be bought for the highest possible rate.

    My Jewish "friend" obviously knew the all-else-fails trick to Jewish admission to ANY university.

    Chuckie Schumer had the right "connections" and a LOT of money. It doesn't take a 1600 SAT score to figure out the rest.......

    [Too many typos.]

    Apart from his SAT scorr ehst is Shumer’s academic record?

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