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The Democrats don’t seem to understand that the Russia investigation has made Trump stronger not weaker. They don’t see that their evidence-free probe has strengthened Trump’s base and convinced his supporters that their leader is being unfairly attacked. (According to a January Quinnipiac survey, a full eighty-three percent of Republicans believe the current investigation is “a witch hunt”. The data suggests that Russia-gate has rallied Trump’s backers to his defense.) Dems don’t grasp that, in the last 12 months, Trump has pushed through a massive tax bill followed by immigration reform that has broadened his support and silenced his GOP critics. When Trump took office, McConnell, Ryan and Graham were all on opposite sides of the political divide. Now Trump has them eating out of his hand. He took a fractious, splintered party and forced them to fall in line. Trump has succeeded in unifying his base while the collusion fiasco has had no noticeable impact at all. None.

As for the Dems, well, the Dems still refuse to pay attention to their own polling data that says that rank-and-file members want less emphasis on Russia and more emphasis on jobs, college tuition, health care, and entitlements. The tone-deaf Dems completely ignore that message choosing instead to pursue a counterproductive probe that has yet to produce a scintilla of hard evidence and that has helped to underscore the fact that the Dems have no platform, no vision for the future, and no solutions for the problems facing ordinary working class people.

Let me be completely honest: I don’t give a flying fig about Russia, Russia hacking, Russia meddling, Russia collusion or any other screwball thing related to Russia. What I do care about is what’s going on in this country. I do care that the man who ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” is currently building military bases in East Syria, stirring up trouble in the South China Sea, supporting counterinsurgency operations across Africa, facing off with Turkey, providing bombs for the ongoing genocide in Yemen, threatening North Korea with total annihilation, and pledging to build a new regime of “usable” nuclear weapons. That’s what worries me, not Russia. But what worries me even more is that, just when we need a strong, highly-principled, credible opposition party to fight the good fight for wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace– the Democrats have turned into jello, a wobbly, gelatinous mass of ingratiating losers. What’s that all about?

The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message. They keep carping about Russia and Trump because they have no convictions, no beliefs, and no fire in the belly. It’s a party of empty suits and phony flannel-mouth politicos. The only thing they’re good at is losing, which is an art they appear to have perfected. The problem is, that the rest of us are sick of the party’s sad-sack song-and-dance, sick of the excuses, sick of the buck passing, and sick of losing. We want candidates who actually stand for something, who actually believe in something, and who’ll actually fight for something.

Two weeks ago, the Dems shut down the government to see if they could force Trump into bending on the DACA issue. In less than 72 hours, they checked the polls, ran up the white flag, and caved in. I cannot remember a more flagrant display of political cowardice in my lifetime. Personally, I’d rather be on the side of someone who believes in something (even if he’s wrong!), than on the side of someone who believes in nothing at all. Democrat leaders believe in nothing, which is why they are not worthy of our support. Here’s how the World Socialist Web Site summed up the DACA cave in:

“The US Senate and House of Representatives voted Monday to approve a short-term budget resolution, putting an end to the partial shutdown of the federal government that began midnight Friday night. The deal leaves 800,000 DACA recipients without protection in what amounts to a total capitulation by Democrats to Trump and the Republicans…..

In the annals of cowardly capitulations, there are few spectacles that can match Monday’s collapse by the Democratic Party, which abandoned its blockade against the budget resolution less than 72 hours after it began. Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer announced the decision in a brief, nearly blubbering speech on the Senate floor, which combined phony invective directed against Trump with a complete surrender to the bigot-in-chief in the White House….

The surrender was not Schumer’s individual decision, but the action of the entire Democratic caucus, which had no stomach for any serious fight…..” (“Federal shutdown ends as Democrats cave in to Trump”, World Socialist Web Site)

No stomach. No guts. No spine. Admit it: The entire Democratic party leadership isn’t worth the powder to blow it to hell. It would be better for everyone if someone just put them out of their misery.

The Dems think the midterms are going to be a landslide-blowout. But don’t count on it. It’s going to take more than Russia-gate and a few glitzy photos with ME TOO celebrity-victims to get disillusioned liberals back to the polls. It’s going to take a “message”, a vision, a progressive way out of the dark, Trumpian fog we’re all stuck in. Unfortunately, the Dems have no such vision, and they’re too busy chasing fictitious Russian trolls on FaceBook to give it a second thought.

ORDER IT NOW

Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level. I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone. I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the neocons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.

I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s the truth.

It’s time to pull up our big boy pants and face the facts: The Democratic party is NOT a suitable vehicle for the progressive agenda. It just isn’t. We need to cut our losses and move on.

 
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  1. This is something that has to be said and is the salient fact of the political reality today. Once the FBI Rosenstein, Comey and Mueller et al are exposed as is likely, it will be back to the drawing board, and Trump’s sellouts to the deep state on Syria, the Ukraine, Korea and elsewhere are fundamentally dangerous.

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    No where has Trump demonstrated his ability to sell out than on Israel...
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  2. Dutch Boy says:

    That the Democrats would shut down their beloved government in the interests of illegal aliens illustrates their true nature . The Democrats are just the party of the rich now and their fanatical support for immigration is a symptom of same. Admitting more cheap labor into a country suffering from chronic underemployment serves the interests of the financial elite but is poison for the American working class.

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    • Agree: Seamus Padraig, TWS
    • Replies: @Johann
    In 1972 the democrats ran McGovern on a platform of the three As : acid, abortion, and amnesty. Richard Nixon went on to win forty nine states out of fifty, an unprecedented rout. Today fifty years later the Democrats are still running on the three As: Acid(legalization of drugs), abortion ( total non restriction of all abortions and government funded Planned Parenthood) and Amnesty( complete removal of any border control and the importation of any of the seven billion people who live on planet earth). I would also add that today they have added transgenderism and the idea that there is no difference between male and female and the widespread belief that all science is created by the DNC and its famous “the science is settled” dictum. If the Americans vote this absurd party into power then they deserve the grim future that they will surely reap.
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  3. What a retard. Anyone who claims to have worked in the democrat party and doesn’t know that there isn’t a decent human being to be found anywhere in their party structure must be a progressive mongoloid. Oh, wait.

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    • Replies: @renfro
    Oh come on......anyone who belongs to either political 'party' is a retard to begin with.
    , @druid
    agree. And to think the Repugs are worse. God help us!
    , @Authenticjazzman
    If one were to undertake a survey in the waiting rooms of shrinks, psychologists and psychiatrists, of the party affiliations of the folks waiting for therapy and or medication , one would come to the not so suprising results of : 98% Democrat.

    Just who actually are the supporters of this abberated, bonkers political entity :
    Okay start with millions of urban "baby mommas" and their shiftless offspring, living off of the hapless working stiffs til the end of their days.
    Then progress to blue-hair nut cases, permanent fifty-semester students clogging up the already destroyed edumacation sysstem, and then on to the legions of communist teachers/perfessers and admin personal, and then to the hollywood air-brains who can't spell Karl Marx, yet are determined to push his sick concepts onto the decent, up six in the morning, working folks.

    And then onto the armies of gov employees, then to the thousands of shit-talking attorneys, so-called journalists, so-called "artists" non-musicians : enemies of music rappers, leftist clergy pushing the democrat vote from their position of "authority", damn the list could go on for miles, but suffice it to say I guess I made my point.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa"qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.
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  4. to give you a perfect example of how out of touch the democrats are take just 4 of the most powerful:

    pelosi, feinstein,schumer and hoyer……these 4 clowns, 3 of whom ought to be in a retirement home constitute 306 years of living here on earth………….76.5 average age.

    i am all for experience but thats not what we have in these 4.
    its power alone that drives them and holding on to it at any cost.

    to make matters even worse the democrats have careened so far left these past few years at the very moment that socialism is expiring worldwide as a viable social organizing philosophy.

    the EU living moment to moment
    venezuela anyone!

    mike is incorrect when he says the democrats have nothing to offer. they do its just they can not sell it to enough regular people.

    the bernie sanders college crowd would be hard pressed to name all the continents, the capitals of all 50 states and read and explain a simple balance sheet of a small local business.

    the democrats average identity politcs voter believes in candy crapping unicorns that give out free this and free that. large segments of their identity voting blocs have 2 digit IQ’s.

    the pelosi, feinstein,schumer, sanders, booker and a host of the usual suspects feed this line of dog squeeze to their constituents knowing its bunk but thats ok cause its allowed feinstein, pelosi and company to become centi millionaires feeding at the public trough and that kind of privilege and power they will claw like hell to hold on to.

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    • Replies: @jim jones
    Ignorance in America:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhTViyaQ32c
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  5. “we need a strong, highly-principled, credible opposition party to fight the good fight for wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace.”

    Literally none of those agenda items are found in the Constitution. Clearly you and I have two very different perceptions of the role of our Federal Government — mine is to be left alone, yours is Batman.

    And it’s refreshing to see yet another article reminding us our country and its leaders are shit, without offering anything resembling a solution. I was afraid the Internet hadn’t filled today’s quota.

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    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace ARE found in the Constitution; maybe the environment too. The other three, not so much. (Arguably covered by the General Welfare clause.)
    , @bluedog
    Well we are shit for after all this country and its voters really don't care how many are slaughtered in our name, as long as it dosen't disturb Monday night football,Bob Dole referred to the working class as "Joe six pack" and that term still applies long after Dole left office..Hell as far as a solution go no farther than the post on here, and just how many agree/dis-agree with each other for its called divide and conquer and they are very good at the game,in fact its the only game in town...
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  6. As a leftie, almost a Communist, I have to agree. I haven’t voted for a long time, and now consider myself Independent instead of a Democrat, but I swear, if Trump survives to run again, I will vote for him, just out of a sense of fair play. I COULDN’T vote for McTraitor or Obama OR Romney, so what choice was there? Oh yeah, Baggage Clinton. No way. But just the injustice of all they’ve tried with Trump makes my blood boil, so I would take pleasure in giving it to the Democrats in the teeth. I know Trump will be horrible for the country, but seriously, Clinton would have been any better????

    As I say, better the devil you DON’T know, sometimes works, and it worked for me a time or two since I was a child. Given the choice of moving to Mexico with people I didn’t know or living with my mother who would have sold my ass to the latest boyfriend for a bottle of booze, well, I chose Door Number One and moved to Mexico. It wasn’t exactly fun, but I don’t regret it. I don’t regret that Trump won, either.

    At least I learned Spanish. Who knows what I’ll learn from a Trump 2nd term?

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  7. Mike is my favorite.

    Democrats are today in sorry state . They have a mental affliction called defur. This disease is incurable. This disease is combination of desperation and fury.
    My research team discovered the reason for this disease.
    After Trumps victory Zionist Globalist did cut bonuses to Democrats to zero.

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  8. renfro says:

    The Democratic party is NOT a suitable vehicle for the progressive agenda. It just isn’t. We need to cut our losses and move on.

    The Republicans aren’t a suitable ‘party’ either…so now what?

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    • Replies: @paraglider
    at least call a spade a spade!

    progressive or progressive agenda is simply putting on a linguistic tuxedo on to really ugly political philosophies: socialism/communism and its vicious ugly sister cultural marxism.

    whenever you hear or read someone is a progressive or supports the progressive agenda or candidates just understand these people want to micromanage your life, your wealth as well as your descendants.

    and when they sponsor such bunk as climate change caused by humans which is code for controlling economic growth and population growth at the same time ask yourself one question.

    whose grandchildren are they try to prevent from being born,..........yours or theirs?
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  9. renfro says:
    @Twodees Partain
    What a retard. Anyone who claims to have worked in the democrat party and doesn't know that there isn't a decent human being to be found anywhere in their party structure must be a progressive mongoloid. Oh, wait.

    Oh come on……anyone who belongs to either political ‘party’ is a retard to begin with.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Well, that was a little too obvious, so I left it unsaid. ;-)
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  10. Your Democrat Party is a joke and has been for at least 20 years.
    I drink your tears like a milkshake.

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  11. vx37 says:

    Democrat leaders believe in nothing

    Not true, they believe in white-hating racism. The modern Western left is defined by a genocidal hatred of white people. The left doesn’t care about “wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace”, they just care about destroying whitey. That’s why they’re more than willing to support the mass migration of Muslims into Western nations even if it eventually means a fascistic sharia state. As long as whitey dies they’re satisfied. They were fighting for what they believed in during the shutdown, dispossessing and eventually eliminating white America, but unfortunately for them whites still make up the majority of voters, and the polls showed that open borders just aren’t popular, especially with the victims of such a policy, so they beat a tactical retreat. But they’re still white-hating racists, still true to and fighting hard for their only real principle.

    As if on cue, Nancy the Nazi Nut Pelosi spewed some more of her patented white-hating racism during this debate, which she does on a regular basis. The girl just can’t keep it contained, apparently. And this is the person the Dems continue to keep as minority leader. Increasing numbers of whites don’t need a weather man to know which way the wind blows.

    The Republicans have a fatal strategic race problem, the Democrats have a serious tactical race problem. They have to prevent the party from being seen as a non-white party before white voters are in the minority and at the same time have to unite their disparate constituencies around the only thing that brings them together: the hatred for, and the desire to feed off of, whites. That’s why Nancy is minority leader and a POC isn’t, and partly why Nancy keeps up the white-hating rhetoric (though I’m sure she believes in it). They won’t be able to hold them back for much longer, though, and trying sell an inept and larcenous minority leadership to white voters while the party waits for the fruits of seizing power with a program of racist colonialism to really ripen is going to be tricky.

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    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!
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  12. Miro23 says:

    Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level. I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone. I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the Neo-cons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.

    Yes, it degrades as you go up the structure.

    Senate Democratic Party leader, dual Israeli/US citizen Charles “Chuck” Schumer was elected unanimously in 2017, while openly declaring that he’s the Nº1 defender of Israel. You can’t say the he believes in nothing – it’s just that the interests of the United States are secondary those of Israel, whatever happens.

    And apart from the current leaders, that also seems to apply in the past, to a host of other dual Israeli/US citizens holding top US government positions, for example:

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    1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
    2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
    3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
    4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
    5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
    6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
    7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
    8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
    9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
    10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
    11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
    12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
    13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
    14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
    15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
    16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
    17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
    18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
    19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
    20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
    21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
    22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
    23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
    25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
    26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
    27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
    28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
    29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
    30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
    31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
    32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
    33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

    Senate:

    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

    House of Representatives:

    •Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    •Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    •Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    •Representative Howard Berman (California)
    •Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    •Representative Susan Davis (California)
    •Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    •Representative Bob Filner (California)
    •Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    •Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    •Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
    •Representative Jane Harman (California)
    •Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    •Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    •Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    •Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    •Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    •Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    •Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    •Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    •Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    •Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    •Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    •Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    •Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    •Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    •Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    •Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    •Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

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    • Replies: @Ger
    The Jews have given out so many 'duel' citizenships to American politicians, some of their dogs have diplomat immunity.
    , @Sin City Milla
    First defeat DACA, then outlaw dual citizenship. There is no such thing as dual loyalty. A dog doesn't wag its tail at both ends.
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  13. jim jones says:
    @paraglider
    to give you a perfect example of how out of touch the democrats are take just 4 of the most powerful:

    pelosi, feinstein,schumer and hoyer......these 4 clowns, 3 of whom ought to be in a retirement home constitute 306 years of living here on earth.............76.5 average age.

    i am all for experience but thats not what we have in these 4.
    its power alone that drives them and holding on to it at any cost.

    to make matters even worse the democrats have careened so far left these past few years at the very moment that socialism is expiring worldwide as a viable social organizing philosophy.

    the EU living moment to moment
    venezuela anyone!

    mike is incorrect when he says the democrats have nothing to offer. they do its just they can not sell it to enough regular people.

    the bernie sanders college crowd would be hard pressed to name all the continents, the capitals of all 50 states and read and explain a simple balance sheet of a small local business.

    the democrats average identity politcs voter believes in candy crapping unicorns that give out free this and free that. large segments of their identity voting blocs have 2 digit IQ's.

    the pelosi, feinstein,schumer, sanders, booker and a host of the usual suspects feed this line of dog squeeze to their constituents knowing its bunk but thats ok cause its allowed feinstein, pelosi and company to become centi millionaires feeding at the public trough and that kind of privilege and power they will claw like hell to hold on to.

    Ignorance in America:

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  14. ” The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message. ”

    Did not Chaim Saban prevent that either Bernie Sanders or a Muslim Senator became chairman ?
    And does not this Saban say ‘that he will do anything to support Israel’ ?

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  15. MEexpert says:

    Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level.

    I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone.

    Every politician that gets elected is committed to making the country a better place for everyone. But once elected, the tune changes, when they get indoctrinated by the AIPAC and get a tour of Israel.

    I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the neocons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.

    End of story.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    AIPAC doesn’t wait till the critters are elected to Congress. It finds its critters when they’re in college. By the time they’re elected to their first public office they are totally owned and controlled by AIPAC
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  16. Realist says:

    My God libs are stupid.

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  17. The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message. They keep carping about Russia and Trump because they have no convictions, no beliefs …

    Of course the Dems have a core belief: they are unshakably certain of their own moral superiority.

    Admit it: The entire Democratic party leadership isn’t worth the powder to blow it to hell.

    Oh yes they are! Though admittedly, that’s all they’re worth.

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    • Replies: @DaveE
    "Of course the Dems have a core belief: they are unshakably certain of their own moral superiority."

    Straight out of the Talmud.

    I wouldn't write these bastards off, just yet. The Chosenites have suffered numerous blows and unfortunately, their filthy ideology survives. It just changes the label so you don't immediately see what's inside. Witness its New Testament Paulian version that has gripped the land.

    Oy F#@^%*ng Vey.
    , @nebulafox
    It is more apropos to view modern Democratic ideology as more akin to religious faith than merely political stances. The process took a while to complete, but it essentially did during the second half of the Obama Administration-it is stunning to compare Democratic statements on immigration policy in the 1990s, where they made at least an effort to care about the fate of working and middle class Americans, to today. Trump is merely the catalyst that has explicitly showcased it for the first time. This is a disease I recognize quite well, this fervor: the same thing happened to the Republicans around a couple of decades ago. You can't argue with a true believer in this vein. (And it still reigns, because Trump was either too lazy or too intellectually limited-probably a mix of both-to purge it when he had the tricorner stool crowd at his mercy upon beating Hillary.)
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  18. The Democrats don’t seem to understand that the Russia investigation has made Trump stronger not weaker.

    How true.
    As a FREE human being there isn’t ANYthing I support when it comes to Mr.Trump, but.
    These creatures who have hijacked the party of many of Americas greatest Presidents are
    infinitely way worse and biggest threat to America, and Humanity.
    My HO as a member of non exceptional race group.

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  19. I was a union man back when labor was part of the Dem coalition. I voted for the Dems because the union said I should. I became neither Dem nor union man when Clinton sent my job to Mexico.

    What took you so long Mike? Didn’t you see what they did to Nader? Kucinich?

    Sarah Palin said we have two parties. Pick one. Is that why you stuck with the Dems? Loathing for the GOP? Fear of the political wilderness?

    I used to hang out at firedoglake. Now I’m at Unz Review. One of the commenters here spoke for me when he said, paraphrasing, I’m with the Alt Right because there is no Alt Left.

    Trumps victory was a defeat for the corrupt political duopoly. The Uniparty. Trump is not our savior. But he is a foot in the door. Welcome aboard Mike.

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    • Replies: @edNels
    Thomas Frank tells the story about how the Democrats went all in for the YUPIES, starting with McGovern election. The "New Democrats'' are no longer interested in the traditional role of defending/representing working stiffs or the bottom socio-economic layers.

    My take is that because the "Liberals'' have re-identified as part of the ''Elite'', and as such in these times… have realized that though they are not as cosy with the ''haves'' class as the Republicans they are still in the power structure and if they want to continue to Live High on the Hog, as they do, as they always have… to maintain that position, they must fulfill a useful function which is to augment the appearance of concern and to be the ''Go To'' place for any appeal to mercy, from the disenpowered minions previously Democrat dependent like workers in unions, and so on.

    To do that, there has been the development of Identity politics, which is perfect in that it fragments the democrat demographics while standing in the way blocking the door and assisting to protect the Repuklicans, and never ever helping one bit, nor even being caught out on the issues. Like Squid, they spew ink of false issues like Russia Gate!

    They are worse than nothing.

    Trump is hated by the lower powers that be, Republicans and Democrats, going around the power brokers, who were the king makers, but he went right around them. He bucked the system and went straight to the power. Who needs the parties, who are flopping around now.

    Trump can deal direct with actual source of power, as he plays his cards, he can dish out a little plausible authenticity to this and that entity as needed to grease the ways, but they are useless except to deflect and so on. He can do what he wants, Jerusalem the new capitol… done! what ever he wants. Don't need no stinker party hacks!
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  20. Hibernian says:
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid
    "we need a strong, highly-principled, credible opposition party to fight the good fight for wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace."

    Literally none of those agenda items are found in the Constitution. Clearly you and I have two very different perceptions of the role of our Federal Government -- mine is to be left alone, yours is Batman.

    And it's refreshing to see yet another article reminding us our country and its leaders are shit, without offering anything resembling a solution. I was afraid the Internet hadn't filled today's quota.

    Infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace ARE found in the Constitution; maybe the environment too. The other three, not so much. (Arguably covered by the General Welfare clause.)

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  21. It’s going to take a “message”, a vision, a progressive way out of the dark,

    Ain’t happening. The DimoKKKRats have blown themselves to perdition through their own idiotic ideology. You’re at the end of the road that progressivism keeps leading to. Say “Hi” to Stalin and Mao for me. They’ll be there laughing at your stupidity because you refused to learn the lessons their regimes taught.

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  22. @exiled off mainstreet
    This is something that has to be said and is the salient fact of the political reality today. Once the FBI Rosenstein, Comey and Mueller et al are exposed as is likely, it will be back to the drawing board, and Trump's sellouts to the deep state on Syria, the Ukraine, Korea and elsewhere are fundamentally dangerous.

    No where has Trump demonstrated his ability to sell out than on Israel…

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  23. Presented as an article about the Democrats, the article is, in fact, all about Russia. Like so many others, the author is obviously scared silly of Russiagate, which suggests that there is something very dirty in Russiagate which has not yet come to light. Thus, we’re getting the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions: “it’s not working; stop wasting your time”. We also get the usual argument that Trump ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” (which translates from Orwellian into English as “capitulate to Putin in Ukraine”). In other words, the usual pro-Putin propaganda.

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    Relations with Russia are worse than they were during the cold war regardless of who is in office. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s the truth.
    , @bluedog
    Are you sure you and Quartermaster aren't joined at the hip,or are you one and the same or are you two simply trolling...
    , @MarkinLA
    I have to admit that you do give Tiny Duck a run for his money in the stupid to the point of being hilarious category. He just doesn't spend as many words on his as you do. You might consider putting these into a book or working up a stand up comedy act.
    , @annamaria
    "... the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions..."
    Mr. Kenny, you have been consistently supporting and propagandizing the Ukrainian neo-Nazis brought to power by Nuland-Kagan (StateDept) and Brennan (the CIA) during coup d'etat in 2014. Do you have any vestiges of decency? -- or you are not able to understand this question at all? We have got already that Israel-firsters welcome both useful neo-Nazis and useful "moderate" jihadists of ISIS.
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  24. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Cut n’ paste Whitney pretends we have two teams running the United States. Idiots argue over the merits of parties – neither could care less about anyone except themselves and their bosses. Year after year, decade after decade, things have gotten worse for the American worker and family. If elections resulted in real change, we wouldn’t have them.

    They say insanity means doing the same useless thing over and over. That applies to the voters for sure. A bunch of zombies. Nothing quite says a willing slave like a voter. Voters love their masters and hate the poor and all human decency. If you vote, you support slavery and perpetual war. What sort of person supports either?

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  25. Both the Demonrats and the Repulicons are controlled by the Zionist deep state and that is why we are given a choice between two Zionist deep state controlled puppets in the elections for POTUS, the Zionist win every time.

    The elections for POTUS are a scam and the people like Ron Paul never have a chance in the Zionist controlled U.S. aka the Israeli plantation.

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  26. Bobbie says:

    The Democrats are now the party of the Wall Street bankers.

    Congrats to the Clintons and the Gores, because this was their dream when they started the Democratic Leadership Council back in the ’80′s.

    The Democrat campaigns before the Clintons struck were very different. The Chamber of Commerce Republican campaigns always had more money. The Democrats weren’t broke, but they always had less. But they always had grassroots efforts going door to door.

    Looking backwards, its obvious why the Clintons didn’t like this. Campaigns that had less money meant less money going into their pockets and into the consultants pockets.

    What the Democratic voters want, “jobs, college tuition, health care, and entitlements”, is obviously the exact opposite of what the Wall Street bankers and the other big money behind the modern Democrats want. And in today’s Democrat Party, the Big Money controls everything. Anyone paying attention to what few primary challenges occur in the party already knew this. And by now its public record and should be well known that the creature of the Wall Street banks (aka Hillary) helped make sure the Bernie-Hillary race was rigged towards the favorite candidate of the bankers.

    Since the same forces are blocking any ‘reform’ within the party, its going to stay this way. If anything, the party of the bankers is making sure that none of the Bernie people have any positions of power within the party. And there is no sign that the next Presidential nomination contest won’t be as rigged, fake and corrupt as the last one. There is also no sign of a wave of primary challenges to the banker-favorite Democrat incumbents in the primaries that will be occuring within the coming months.

    So, the drive to nuclear war suits the bankers. It makes sure the focus is off any policies the bankers oppose, which is anything that helps anyone except the bankers. The same bankers are invested in the nuke and defense industries that seem intent on driving the world towards a nuclear holocaust.

    If you love bankers and nuclear war, then be a proud Democrat.
    If not, run like heck and get away from the party of bankers and nuclear war.

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    Sub in the word "jooies" for the polite euphemism "bankers"......and your comments would be more accurate.
    , @phil
    While Democrats and Republicans prattle on, the fact is that they haven't affected macroeconomic performance as much as many people thinks. Kevin MacDonald, for example, has bought into the idea that labor's compensation has lagged terribly behind improvements in labor productivity.

    The boring reality is that (a) including all workers in the private sector; and (b) adjusting for inflation by using the implicit price deflator instead of the Consumer Price Index, the real compensation of American workers in the private sector (per hour) has multiplied by more than 2.6 since 1964, an average annual increase of almost 2 percent per year.

    On a scale from 0 to 10, where 10 is perfectly free markets, the US is still close to 8 according to the Fraser Institute. New jobs are being created at a rapid rate, and the unemployment rate is close to 4 percent--nearly "full" employment. There is very little inflation.
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  27. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Presented as an article about the Democrats, the article is, in fact, all about Russia. Like so many others, the author is obviously scared silly of Russiagate, which suggests that there is something very dirty in Russiagate which has not yet come to light. Thus, we’re getting the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions: “it’s not working; stop wasting your time”. We also get the usual argument that Trump ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” (which translates from Orwellian into English as “capitulate to Putin in Ukraine”). In other words, the usual pro-Putin propaganda.

    Relations with Russia are worse than they were during the cold war regardless of who is in office. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s the truth.

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    Yes. And the kicker here is that it was all completely unnecessary. In 1983, the Soviet Union was a ideologically driven superpower that could only be deterred from expansionist ambitions by a broad NATO alliance. Russia today is a crony-ridden kleptocracy, an oil-dependent state with the GDP of Mexico, that only has the ability to project hard power in areas with ethnic Russians or directly friendly ethnic groups.

    To speak of the "need" for anti-Assad involvement in Syria, as the Obama Administration did, on the primary basis of thinly disguised ideological challenge is ludicrous. Putin's primary goal is to stay rich and to stay in power, and he's willing to embrace whatever ideology lets him do that. Yet our policy in Syria can only have been described in terms of presenting a challenge for the sake of simply opposing Russia-never mind that it directly contradicted Obama's attempts to start to have a more normal relationship with Iran. (The ugly truth that little playwright Ben Rhodes will never pick up on: the mullahs care far, far more about having their Shi'a belt to the Mediterranean, thus Assad staying in power, than any piece of paper signed in Geneva.)

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  28. nebulafox says:

    You can have a functional welfare state. You can have mass immigration.

    You can’t have both. Or, ordinarily you can’t, not in a fiscally feasible way, as much of Europe has found out the hard way over the past decade. America’s long-time status as the world’s reserve currency let us get away with things that other countries couldn’t for a few decades, but time is running out on that status.

    (And even still-immigration levels in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s were much, much less than the torrent flood we’ve experienced in the 21st Century. America had a population of “only” around 225 million in 1979, for comparison. The growth of over *100 million* we’ve had since then is nearly all immigration fueled. I don’t think people contemplate what 100 million people means.)

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  29. Ger says:
    @Miro23

    Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level. I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone. I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the Neo-cons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.
     
    Yes, it degrades as you go up the structure.

    Senate Democratic Party leader, dual Israeli/US citizen Charles "Chuck" Schumer was elected unanimously in 2017, while openly declaring that he's the Nº1 defender of Israel. You can't say the he believes in nothing - it's just that the interests of the United States are secondary those of Israel, whatever happens.

    And apart from the current leaders, that also seems to apply in the past, to a host of other dual Israeli/US citizens holding top US government positions, for example:

    1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
    2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
    3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
    4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
    5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
    6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
    7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
    8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
    9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
    10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
    11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
    12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
    13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
    14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
    15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
    16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
    17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
    18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
    19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
    20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
    21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
    22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
    23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
    25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
    26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
    27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
    28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
    29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
    30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
    31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
    32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
    33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

    Senate:

    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

    House of Representatives:

    •Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    •Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    •Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    •Representative Howard Berman (California)
    •Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    •Representative Susan Davis (California)
    •Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    •Representative Bob Filner (California)
    •Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    •Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    •Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
    •Representative Jane Harman (California)
    •Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    •Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    •Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    •Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    •Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    •Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    •Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    •Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    •Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    •Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    •Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    •Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    •Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    •Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    •Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    •Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    •Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    The Jews have given out so many ‘duel’ citizenships to American politicians, some of their dogs have diplomat immunity.

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  30. nebulafox says:
    @Anonymous
    Relations with Russia are worse than they were during the cold war regardless of who is in office. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that’s the truth.

    Yes. And the kicker here is that it was all completely unnecessary. In 1983, the Soviet Union was a ideologically driven superpower that could only be deterred from expansionist ambitions by a broad NATO alliance. Russia today is a crony-ridden kleptocracy, an oil-dependent state with the GDP of Mexico, that only has the ability to project hard power in areas with ethnic Russians or directly friendly ethnic groups.

    To speak of the “need” for anti-Assad involvement in Syria, as the Obama Administration did, on the primary basis of thinly disguised ideological challenge is ludicrous. Putin’s primary goal is to stay rich and to stay in power, and he’s willing to embrace whatever ideology lets him do that. Yet our policy in Syria can only have been described in terms of presenting a challenge for the sake of simply opposing Russia-never mind that it directly contradicted Obama’s attempts to start to have a more normal relationship with Iran. (The ugly truth that little playwright Ben Rhodes will never pick up on: the mullahs care far, far more about having their Shi’a belt to the Mediterranean, thus Assad staying in power, than any piece of paper signed in Geneva.)

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    You have parroted all the main anti-Russia points as they are presented by MSM. What are you doing here, on this forum? Unz Revew is hated by ziocons for independent research. Here you come spewing the ziocon propaganda and sounding like Eliot Higgins, the famous "expert" in Russian affairs and former seller of ladies’ underwear (no other education or job in his CV, before the ignoramus embarked on his jihad against Russians). This forum is no Atlantic Council. Use another door. http://russialist.org/sharon-tennison-russia-report-on-putin/
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  31. Johann says:
    @Dutch Boy
    That the Democrats would shut down their beloved government in the interests of illegal aliens illustrates their true nature . The Democrats are just the party of the rich now and their fanatical support for immigration is a symptom of same. Admitting more cheap labor into a country suffering from chronic underemployment serves the interests of the financial elite but is poison for the American working class.

    In 1972 the democrats ran McGovern on a platform of the three As : acid, abortion, and amnesty. Richard Nixon went on to win forty nine states out of fifty, an unprecedented rout. Today fifty years later the Democrats are still running on the three As: Acid(legalization of drugs), abortion ( total non restriction of all abortions and government funded Planned Parenthood) and Amnesty( complete removal of any border control and the importation of any of the seven billion people who live on planet earth). I would also add that today they have added transgenderism and the idea that there is no difference between male and female and the widespread belief that all science is created by the DNC and its famous “the science is settled” dictum. If the Americans vote this absurd party into power then they deserve the grim future that they will surely reap.

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    Nixon’s 1972 landslide wasn’t because of McGovern’ abortion acid stance.

    It was economic. McGivern promised, loudly and often that he would eliminate the home mortgage and property tax federal tax deduction.

    That meant that every homeowner in the country voted against him.

    I don’t know why the Democrats allowed him to put that in so many of his speeches. But they did and Nixon won in a landslide.

    Even Jews voted republican that year.
    , @RadicalCenter
    Mostly agree with you, sir. But the great majority of Dems aren’t running for Office on a platform of legalizing any drugs beyond marijuana.

    As for marijuana, being in favor of legalization is one of the few things that some Dem politicians get right. And for people who can read the Tenth Amendment and care about the Constitution should favor repeal of federal restrictions and the decision of the issue by the people of each State.

    I’ve never voted for a Democrat for federal or state office in my life, yet I wholeheartedly supported the initiatives to repeal pot prohibition in various States, including California where we live.
    , @Simply Simon
    In addition to what you have stated, basically that abortion on demand is a Holy Sacrament for the Democratic Party, I do not see how anyone who calls himself a Christian can vote for that Party.
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  32. bluedog says:
    @Nancy Pelosi's Latina Maid
    "we need a strong, highly-principled, credible opposition party to fight the good fight for wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace."

    Literally none of those agenda items are found in the Constitution. Clearly you and I have two very different perceptions of the role of our Federal Government -- mine is to be left alone, yours is Batman.

    And it's refreshing to see yet another article reminding us our country and its leaders are shit, without offering anything resembling a solution. I was afraid the Internet hadn't filled today's quota.

    Well we are shit for after all this country and its voters really don’t care how many are slaughtered in our name, as long as it dosen’t disturb Monday night football,Bob Dole referred to the working class as “Joe six pack” and that term still applies long after Dole left office..Hell as far as a solution go no farther than the post on here, and just how many agree/dis-agree with each other for its called divide and conquer and they are very good at the game,in fact its the only game in town…

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  33. nsa says:
    @Bobbie
    The Democrats are now the party of the Wall Street bankers.

    Congrats to the Clintons and the Gores, because this was their dream when they started the Democratic Leadership Council back in the '80's.

    The Democrat campaigns before the Clintons struck were very different. The Chamber of Commerce Republican campaigns always had more money. The Democrats weren't broke, but they always had less. But they always had grassroots efforts going door to door.

    Looking backwards, its obvious why the Clintons didn't like this. Campaigns that had less money meant less money going into their pockets and into the consultants pockets.

    What the Democratic voters want, "jobs, college tuition, health care, and entitlements", is obviously the exact opposite of what the Wall Street bankers and the other big money behind the modern Democrats want. And in today's Democrat Party, the Big Money controls everything. Anyone paying attention to what few primary challenges occur in the party already knew this. And by now its public record and should be well known that the creature of the Wall Street banks (aka Hillary) helped make sure the Bernie-Hillary race was rigged towards the favorite candidate of the bankers.

    Since the same forces are blocking any 'reform' within the party, its going to stay this way. If anything, the party of the bankers is making sure that none of the Bernie people have any positions of power within the party. And there is no sign that the next Presidential nomination contest won't be as rigged, fake and corrupt as the last one. There is also no sign of a wave of primary challenges to the banker-favorite Democrat incumbents in the primaries that will be occuring within the coming months.

    So, the drive to nuclear war suits the bankers. It makes sure the focus is off any policies the bankers oppose, which is anything that helps anyone except the bankers. The same bankers are invested in the nuke and defense industries that seem intent on driving the world towards a nuclear holocaust.

    If you love bankers and nuclear war, then be a proud Democrat.
    If not, run like heck and get away from the party of bankers and nuclear war.

    Sub in the word “jooies” for the polite euphemism “bankers”……and your comments would be more accurate.

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    Jews have weaponized the rabble (Left) for millennia.
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  34. @renfro

    The Democratic party is NOT a suitable vehicle for the progressive agenda. It just isn’t. We need to cut our losses and move on.
     
    The Republicans aren't a suitable 'party' either...so now what?

    at least call a spade a spade!

    progressive or progressive agenda is simply putting on a linguistic tuxedo on to really ugly political philosophies: socialism/communism and its vicious ugly sister cultural marxism.

    whenever you hear or read someone is a progressive or supports the progressive agenda or candidates just understand these people want to micromanage your life, your wealth as well as your descendants.

    and when they sponsor such bunk as climate change caused by humans which is code for controlling economic growth and population growth at the same time ask yourself one question.

    whose grandchildren are they try to prevent from being born,……….yours or theirs?

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  35. bluedog says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Presented as an article about the Democrats, the article is, in fact, all about Russia. Like so many others, the author is obviously scared silly of Russiagate, which suggests that there is something very dirty in Russiagate which has not yet come to light. Thus, we’re getting the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions: “it’s not working; stop wasting your time”. We also get the usual argument that Trump ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” (which translates from Orwellian into English as “capitulate to Putin in Ukraine”). In other words, the usual pro-Putin propaganda.

    Are you sure you and Quartermaster aren’t joined at the hip,or are you one and the same or are you two simply trolling…

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  36. DaveE says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message. They keep carping about Russia and Trump because they have no convictions, no beliefs ...
     
    Of course the Dems have a core belief: they are unshakably certain of their own moral superiority.

    Admit it: The entire Democratic party leadership isn’t worth the powder to blow it to hell.
     
    Oh yes they are! Though admittedly, that's all they're worth.

    “Of course the Dems have a core belief: they are unshakably certain of their own moral superiority.”

    Straight out of the Talmud.

    I wouldn’t write these bastards off, just yet. The Chosenites have suffered numerous blows and unfortunately, their filthy ideology survives. It just changes the label so you don’t immediately see what’s inside. Witness its New Testament Paulian version that has gripped the land.

    Oy F#@^%*ng Vey.

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  37. edNels says:
    @WorkingClass
    I was a union man back when labor was part of the Dem coalition. I voted for the Dems because the union said I should. I became neither Dem nor union man when Clinton sent my job to Mexico.

    What took you so long Mike? Didn't you see what they did to Nader? Kucinich?

    Sarah Palin said we have two parties. Pick one. Is that why you stuck with the Dems? Loathing for the GOP? Fear of the political wilderness?

    I used to hang out at firedoglake. Now I'm at Unz Review. One of the commenters here spoke for me when he said, paraphrasing, I'm with the Alt Right because there is no Alt Left.

    Trumps victory was a defeat for the corrupt political duopoly. The Uniparty. Trump is not our savior. But he is a foot in the door. Welcome aboard Mike.

    Thomas Frank tells the story about how the Democrats went all in for the YUPIES, starting with McGovern election. The “New Democrats” are no longer interested in the traditional role of defending/representing working stiffs or the bottom socio-economic layers.

    My take is that because the “Liberals” have re-identified as part of the ”Elite”, and as such in these times… have realized that though they are not as cosy with the ”haves” class as the Republicans they are still in the power structure and if they want to continue to Live High on the Hog, as they do, as they always have… to maintain that position, they must fulfill a useful function which is to augment the appearance of concern and to be the ”Go To” place for any appeal to mercy, from the disenpowered minions previously Democrat dependent like workers in unions, and so on.

    To do that, there has been the development of Identity politics, which is perfect in that it fragments the democrat demographics while standing in the way blocking the door and assisting to protect the Repuklicans, and never ever helping one bit, nor even being caught out on the issues. Like Squid, they spew ink of false issues like Russia Gate!

    They are worse than nothing.

    Trump is hated by the lower powers that be, Republicans and Democrats, going around the power brokers, who were the king makers, but he went right around them. He bucked the system and went straight to the power. Who needs the parties, who are flopping around now.

    Trump can deal direct with actual source of power, as he plays his cards, he can dish out a little plausible authenticity to this and that entity as needed to grease the ways, but they are useless except to deflect and so on. He can do what he wants, Jerusalem the new capitol… done! what ever he wants. Don’t need no stinker party hacks!

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    Lol, another slave who believes in the fake left right division created for them by the ruling elite. Exhibit A, sophistry transcriber Thomas Frank. Why do credulous morons believe the elite have any real problem with a President they appointed? Fake news?
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  38. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The Dems all looked rather glum when Trump announced a historic fall in African-American level of unemployment during his SOTU speech. You’d think they would at least show some half-hearted approval but no, they didn’t. They really don’t care. The black Dem leadership are just concerned about their own employment and base their careers on stoking racial antagonisms. This Russian connection business is just fantasy but yet day in and day out it keeps getting pushed. It’s incredible to see full grown people who have gone to good schools act like brain-dead zombies repeating this Russian nonsense. I never realized there was such a vast amount of stupidity out there in America. Things have really gotten weird here in the US.

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  39. Alden says:
    @Johann
    In 1972 the democrats ran McGovern on a platform of the three As : acid, abortion, and amnesty. Richard Nixon went on to win forty nine states out of fifty, an unprecedented rout. Today fifty years later the Democrats are still running on the three As: Acid(legalization of drugs), abortion ( total non restriction of all abortions and government funded Planned Parenthood) and Amnesty( complete removal of any border control and the importation of any of the seven billion people who live on planet earth). I would also add that today they have added transgenderism and the idea that there is no difference between male and female and the widespread belief that all science is created by the DNC and its famous “the science is settled” dictum. If the Americans vote this absurd party into power then they deserve the grim future that they will surely reap.

    Nixon’s 1972 landslide wasn’t because of McGovern’ abortion acid stance.

    It was economic. McGivern promised, loudly and often that he would eliminate the home mortgage and property tax federal tax deduction.

    That meant that every homeowner in the country voted against him.

    I don’t know why the Democrats allowed him to put that in so many of his speeches. But they did and Nixon won in a landslide.

    Even Jews voted republican that year.

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    I thought he lost because he traded a running mate with a covered up history of psychiatric treatment for one that was patently a compromise to the pro-war establishment democrats.
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  40. Sparkon says:

    For yours truly, the final blows to the credibility even legitimacy of the Democratic Party were dealt by John Kerry in ’04, and Nancy Pelosi in ’06.

    In his campaign for President in 2004, Kerry refused to distance or even separate himself from incumbent George W. Bush’s illegal¹ invasion of Iraq.

    Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry said Monday he would not have changed his vote to authorize [sic] the war against Iraq, but said he would have handled things “very differently” from President Bush.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/09/kerry.iraq/

    When she ascended to Speaker of the House after the midterm elections in ’06, Nancy Pelosi flexed her flabby bicep, then declared: “Impeachment is off the table,” repeating what she’d stated on 60 Minutes earlier in the year.

    Image: Deseret News²

    Hoping that the Democrats takeover [sic] Congress Nov. 7th and proceed to impeach Bush? According to Nancy Pelosi, who will become Speaker of the House if the Democrats win a majority, impeachment is not going to happen.

    Pelosi told CBS’s 60 Minutes Sunday night that, “impeachment is off the table”. When asked about this declaration, she went on to assure that “yes it is a pledge”, and even called impeachment “a waste of time”.

    http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/reports-on-protest-resistance/3369-nancy-pelosi-declares-impeachment-qoff-the-tableq

    With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans? As they say, our political parties are merely two sides of the same coin. In fact, most of our contemporary Democratic politicians are simply Republicans in drag because both U.S. political parties support the rich — I mean, “the troops” — and back their wars.

    – Footnotes:–

    ¹ Grauniad article from Sept. 16, 2004:

    The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared explicitly for the first time last night that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal.
    [...]
    The UN chief had warned the US and its allies a week before the invasion in March 2003 that military action would violate the UN charter. But he has hitherto refrained from using the damning word “illegal”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/16/iraq.iraq

    ² For some reason, I could find only 2 small pictures of Pelosi flexing her muscles after taking the Speaker’s gavel from Boehner in 2006. Scrubbers at work.

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    The Democrats couldn't in 2004 because they already established the precedent that human rights could trump preserving the balance of power or national interests in Yugoslavia under President Clinton-who would also sign the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 with widespread bipartisan support. After all, what made Iraq so different from Yugoslavia? Nobody could seriously argue that Saddam was somehow any less bloody-minded or sociopathic than Milosevic. The only argument that could be made was on national interest grounds (as prominent Republican dissenters like Brent Scowcroft or Pat Buchanan did), which, dissenters such as Obama or Sanders aside, the party establishment couldn't do after the previous decade, so they boxed themselves in.

    And Iraq, much like Yugoslavia, turned out to be a country that few in Washington bothered to view from a native perspective-an artificial state held together by a strongman with centuries old hatreds exploding from his removal. The only difference was that our intervention was on a far larger scale, and had far larger, more deadly consequences for the US in the long run.

    There were Democrats in 2004 that did advocate unilateral withdrawal, much like Gene McCarthy in 1968, but like in 1968, there was no mass national constituency for it. Baby Boomer-oriented histories tend to get this quite wrong-it wouldn't have been politically feasible at the time. (Four years later, in both cases, it was a different story. But that took time.) Moreover, they held about as much control over the Clintonian DNC than McCarthy did over the New Dealist party apparatus in 1968. Four years later, like with Vietnam, it was a very different story.

    Johann, Aiden:

    The debacle of 1972 had many causes. That McGovern campaigned on Vietnam like it was still a meaningful issue to most Americans was a pretty stupid move-all ground combat operations had ceased in November of 1971 and American casualties had been reduced from tens of thousands in 1968-1969 to hundreds by 1972. The majority of the fighting was being carried out between the two warring Vietnamese states, with American bombing supporting the South. LBJ tried to point this out to McGovern, but he didn't listen.

    However, one thing that *didn't* cause McGovern's defeat was his economic policies, which enjoyed widespread support and were a key factor in his ability to out-shank rivals in the DNC primary process, apart from the Fraser-McGovern reforms of 1970. The neoliberals tended to get this wrong over the coming years, but the Nixon Administration knew it: one internal memo cited that the only "smart campaigns" in terms of focus on populist economic policies were McGovern's... and George Wallace's, another fire-breathing populist from the opposite end of the Democratic Party. (For what it was worth, the Nixon White House itself took a leftward tack on the economy in '72, which somewhat took away the issue's potency.)

    The debate is somewhat moot, anyway: Nixon probably would have decisively defeated anybody that year. The nation suffered a near breakdown in the late 1960s, and Nixon's restoration of order was viewed positively by the vast majority of the electorate, Baby Boomer fantasies to the contrary aside. Humphrey or Muskie might not have lost so badly, but they still would have lost-Nixon had a near 70% approval rating before Watergate blew in an age where the partisan divide was far more easily crossable for voters. That's why Watergate was such an incredibly stupid scandal. It was totally, completely unnecessary.

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  41. druid says:
    @Twodees Partain
    What a retard. Anyone who claims to have worked in the democrat party and doesn't know that there isn't a decent human being to be found anywhere in their party structure must be a progressive mongoloid. Oh, wait.

    agree. And to think the Repugs are worse. God help us!

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  42. druid says:
    @vx37
    Democrat leaders believe in nothing

    Not true, they believe in white-hating racism. The modern Western left is defined by a genocidal hatred of white people. The left doesn't care about "wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace", they just care about destroying whitey. That's why they're more than willing to support the mass migration of Muslims into Western nations even if it eventually means a fascistic sharia state. As long as whitey dies they're satisfied. They were fighting for what they believed in during the shutdown, dispossessing and eventually eliminating white America, but unfortunately for them whites still make up the majority of voters, and the polls showed that open borders just aren't popular, especially with the victims of such a policy, so they beat a tactical retreat. But they're still white-hating racists, still true to and fighting hard for their only real principle.

    As if on cue, Nancy the Nazi Nut Pelosi spewed some more of her patented white-hating racism during this debate, which she does on a regular basis. The girl just can't keep it contained, apparently. And this is the person the Dems continue to keep as minority leader. Increasing numbers of whites don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows.

    The Republicans have a fatal strategic race problem, the Democrats have a serious tactical race problem. They have to prevent the party from being seen as a non-white party before white voters are in the minority and at the same time have to unite their disparate constituencies around the only thing that brings them together: the hatred for, and the desire to feed off of, whites. That's why Nancy is minority leader and a POC isn't, and partly why Nancy keeps up the white-hating rhetoric (though I'm sure she believes in it). They won't be able to hold them back for much longer, though, and trying sell an inept and larcenous minority leadership to white voters while the party waits for the fruits of seizing power with a program of racist colonialism to really ripen is going to be tricky.

    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!

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    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!
     
    Good try, but short on the facts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi

    Pelosi is Italian-American. She is the youngest of six children of Annunciata M. "Nancy" (née Lombardi) (1909–?), who was born in Campobasso,[3] South Italy, and Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr., who was a Democratic party U.S. Congressman from Maryland and a Mayor of Baltimore.[4][5] Pelosi's brother, Thomas D'Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971, when he chose not to run for re-election.[6]

    Pelosi was involved with politics from an early age. In her outgoing remarks as the 52nd Speaker of the House, Pelosi said that she had attended John F. Kennedy's inaugural address when he became President in January 1961. She graduated from the Institute of Notre Dame, a Catholic all-girls high school in Baltimore, and from Trinity College in Washington, D.C. in 1962, with a B.A. in political science.[7] Pelosi interned for Senator Daniel Brewster (D-Maryland) alongside future House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.[8] She met Paul Frank Pelosi (b. April 15, 1940, in San Francisco)[9] while she was attending Trinity College.[10] They married in Baltimore at the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen on September 7, 1963.
     
    If she's Jewish, that's a whole lot of subterfuge.
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  43. Rurik says:

    this is the proper display of cringing victimhood when a Nazi is again gesticulating at the podium to his fellow Alt-right white supremacists and assorted Brown Shirts/Deplorables

    it’s important that you come off as if you’re lowing your gaze lest you be chosen for the oven, rather than the work detail that scoops up the fat off the floor for the grizzly soap factory

    this is the ‘look’ he’s trying to effect

    https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Z1R8J5-ScKGGXuSYv6h0fQHaFj&pid=Api

    head down, gaze diverted

    victimhood

    https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.9hIj4aWYMY9BSu2_l9jueQAAAA&pid=Api

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  44. @Twodees Partain
    What a retard. Anyone who claims to have worked in the democrat party and doesn't know that there isn't a decent human being to be found anywhere in their party structure must be a progressive mongoloid. Oh, wait.

    If one were to undertake a survey in the waiting rooms of shrinks, psychologists and psychiatrists, of the party affiliations of the folks waiting for therapy and or medication , one would come to the not so suprising results of : 98% Democrat.

    Just who actually are the supporters of this abberated, bonkers political entity :
    Okay start with millions of urban “baby mommas” and their shiftless offspring, living off of the hapless working stiffs til the end of their days.
    Then progress to blue-hair nut cases, permanent fifty-semester students clogging up the already destroyed edumacation sysstem, and then on to the legions of communist teachers/perfessers and admin personal, and then to the hollywood air-brains who can’t spell Karl Marx, yet are determined to push his sick concepts onto the decent, up six in the morning, working folks.

    And then onto the armies of gov employees, then to the thousands of shit-talking attorneys, so-called journalists, so-called “artists” non-musicians : enemies of music rappers, leftist clergy pushing the democrat vote from their position of “authority”, damn the list could go on for miles, but suffice it to say I guess I made my point.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa”qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    Why yes your point of view is the birds eye point of view, in that you hate everyone that fails to subscribe to you warped view of society..
    , @theMann
    Dude, you have the most exact analysis the Democratic Party's voting base ever. if you could also point out that they are owned and managed by oligarchs, and then shorten it to a bumper sticker.....


    In all fairness, I was a lukewarm Republican until the stupendous stench of George W. Bush Jr permanently polluted that organization. Watching the local Repubs, all of whom knew him personally, go from "yea, he is a (formerly) drunken asshole, but we will run him for governor" to "Oh yea, he is the greatest guy ever" was.....sickening.



    Even so, watching the Democrats pour illegals into our country, while replying to any issue with "oh, you are ra-ra-ra-Racist!" isn't just repellent, it is something close to treason.

    As much of a disaster as Trump has been on foreign policy, he has wildly exceeded expectations on the domestic front. Maybe we can give him a (very short term) pass until he figures out that the Israelis are not our, or anybody elses, friends.
    , @uslabor
    I guess anybody could say they're a professional jazz musician. You don't have to be a member of Mensa to know that.
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  45. snag says:

    Pathetic bunch of losers ,…

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  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t vote. If people want change, they have to refuse to cooperate. That means no voting. Voting means you agree with the basic trends and just want to tweak the system. Slaves believe in political parties, for them voting means they might get a master with the right political party who will relieve them of their misery. The fact that rigged referendums are entirely fraudulent and politics is just a stage show put on by the ruling elite never seems to occur to millions of dupable rabble.

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  47. bluedog says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    If one were to undertake a survey in the waiting rooms of shrinks, psychologists and psychiatrists, of the party affiliations of the folks waiting for therapy and or medication , one would come to the not so suprising results of : 98% Democrat.

    Just who actually are the supporters of this abberated, bonkers political entity :
    Okay start with millions of urban "baby mommas" and their shiftless offspring, living off of the hapless working stiffs til the end of their days.
    Then progress to blue-hair nut cases, permanent fifty-semester students clogging up the already destroyed edumacation sysstem, and then on to the legions of communist teachers/perfessers and admin personal, and then to the hollywood air-brains who can't spell Karl Marx, yet are determined to push his sick concepts onto the decent, up six in the morning, working folks.

    And then onto the armies of gov employees, then to the thousands of shit-talking attorneys, so-called journalists, so-called "artists" non-musicians : enemies of music rappers, leftist clergy pushing the democrat vote from their position of "authority", damn the list could go on for miles, but suffice it to say I guess I made my point.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa"qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Why yes your point of view is the birds eye point of view, in that you hate everyone that fails to subscribe to you warped view of society..

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  48. @Johann
    In 1972 the democrats ran McGovern on a platform of the three As : acid, abortion, and amnesty. Richard Nixon went on to win forty nine states out of fifty, an unprecedented rout. Today fifty years later the Democrats are still running on the three As: Acid(legalization of drugs), abortion ( total non restriction of all abortions and government funded Planned Parenthood) and Amnesty( complete removal of any border control and the importation of any of the seven billion people who live on planet earth). I would also add that today they have added transgenderism and the idea that there is no difference between male and female and the widespread belief that all science is created by the DNC and its famous “the science is settled” dictum. If the Americans vote this absurd party into power then they deserve the grim future that they will surely reap.

    Mostly agree with you, sir. But the great majority of Dems aren’t running for Office on a platform of legalizing any drugs beyond marijuana.

    As for marijuana, being in favor of legalization is one of the few things that some Dem politicians get right. And for people who can read the Tenth Amendment and care about the Constitution should favor repeal of federal restrictions and the decision of the issue by the people of each State.

    I’ve never voted for a Democrat for federal or state office in my life, yet I wholeheartedly supported the initiatives to repeal pot prohibition in various States, including California where we live.

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  49. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why does the USA have both a Department of Defense and a Department of Homeland Security? Aren’t they the same thing? Why do we live in a giant perpetual war state? Because of the profit of the rich.

    Why does the working class pay taxes and the rich avoid them? What do the patriots get back for their taxes? Crap roads, no health insurance, and a giant Military Ponzi scheme guranteed by both political parties who tend to the needs of idle rich welfare recipients.

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  50. theMann says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    If one were to undertake a survey in the waiting rooms of shrinks, psychologists and psychiatrists, of the party affiliations of the folks waiting for therapy and or medication , one would come to the not so suprising results of : 98% Democrat.

    Just who actually are the supporters of this abberated, bonkers political entity :
    Okay start with millions of urban "baby mommas" and their shiftless offspring, living off of the hapless working stiffs til the end of their days.
    Then progress to blue-hair nut cases, permanent fifty-semester students clogging up the already destroyed edumacation sysstem, and then on to the legions of communist teachers/perfessers and admin personal, and then to the hollywood air-brains who can't spell Karl Marx, yet are determined to push his sick concepts onto the decent, up six in the morning, working folks.

    And then onto the armies of gov employees, then to the thousands of shit-talking attorneys, so-called journalists, so-called "artists" non-musicians : enemies of music rappers, leftist clergy pushing the democrat vote from their position of "authority", damn the list could go on for miles, but suffice it to say I guess I made my point.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa"qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Dude, you have the most exact analysis the Democratic Party’s voting base ever. if you could also point out that they are owned and managed by oligarchs, and then shorten it to a bumper sticker…..

    In all fairness, I was a lukewarm Republican until the stupendous stench of George W. Bush Jr permanently polluted that organization. Watching the local Repubs, all of whom knew him personally, go from “yea, he is a (formerly) drunken asshole, but we will run him for governor” to “Oh yea, he is the greatest guy ever” was…..sickening.

    Even so, watching the Democrats pour illegals into our country, while replying to any issue with “oh, you are ra-ra-ra-Racist!” isn’t just repellent, it is something close to treason.

    As much of a disaster as Trump has been on foreign policy, he has wildly exceeded expectations on the domestic front. Maybe we can give him a (very short term) pass until he figures out that the Israelis are not our, or anybody elses, friends.

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  51. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @edNels
    Thomas Frank tells the story about how the Democrats went all in for the YUPIES, starting with McGovern election. The "New Democrats'' are no longer interested in the traditional role of defending/representing working stiffs or the bottom socio-economic layers.

    My take is that because the "Liberals'' have re-identified as part of the ''Elite'', and as such in these times… have realized that though they are not as cosy with the ''haves'' class as the Republicans they are still in the power structure and if they want to continue to Live High on the Hog, as they do, as they always have… to maintain that position, they must fulfill a useful function which is to augment the appearance of concern and to be the ''Go To'' place for any appeal to mercy, from the disenpowered minions previously Democrat dependent like workers in unions, and so on.

    To do that, there has been the development of Identity politics, which is perfect in that it fragments the democrat demographics while standing in the way blocking the door and assisting to protect the Repuklicans, and never ever helping one bit, nor even being caught out on the issues. Like Squid, they spew ink of false issues like Russia Gate!

    They are worse than nothing.

    Trump is hated by the lower powers that be, Republicans and Democrats, going around the power brokers, who were the king makers, but he went right around them. He bucked the system and went straight to the power. Who needs the parties, who are flopping around now.

    Trump can deal direct with actual source of power, as he plays his cards, he can dish out a little plausible authenticity to this and that entity as needed to grease the ways, but they are useless except to deflect and so on. He can do what he wants, Jerusalem the new capitol… done! what ever he wants. Don't need no stinker party hacks!

    Lol, another slave who believes in the fake left right division created for them by the ruling elite. Exhibit A, sophistry transcriber Thomas Frank. Why do credulous morons believe the elite have any real problem with a President they appointed? Fake news?

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  52. FB says:

    Booyah Mikey Boy…

    What a great article…

    Mike gets it all in here…not just the unmasking of the Sleazeball Dems…but also the Dump betrayal on foreign policy which he has turned over to the Deep State and…who else…the bloody neocons…

    How much the Dump betrayal has had to do with the Dems Dirty Tricks and nonstop Russia BS we will never know…but probably it has figured in prominently…by basically hogtying the POTUS with this whole wacky Russia conspiracy…

    The Deep State and neocons waiting in the wings quickly jumped in…to take control from a foundering Dump…

    But Mike does indeed point out that Dump has at least accomplished something…ie uniting the Repubs behind him…

    If they can now finally destroy this Russiagate BS and put the various criminals behind bars…including notorious deep state criminal Mueller…

    …well…maybe then Dump will have a chance to clean house and take back control of the ship of state…

    Let us hope…

    PS…I notice some commenters here posting ignorantly about all Dems…including the grassroots folks at the local level which Mike mentions…

    Obviously these kinds of comments are totally childish…and come from people who have surely never been involved in grassroots politics…

    How could they find the time anyway…since all they do is sit on chat rooms like this…?

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  53. Beckow says:

    The ship is sinking and the rats are jumping overboard – even the ‘socialist’ ones. This will be quite a show….’don’t give fig’s a.s..but give us daca,daca,daca…’…It’s a meltdown, and it has just begun. The look on Pelosi’s face is priceless.

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  54. “The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message.”

    You went easy on the Democrats, Mr. Whitney. The Dems are neoliberals, neoconservatives, and acolytes of the identity politics religion. Their current embrace and defense of America’s political police, the FBI, proves they are also the favored party of the national security state. They are dangerous.

    Meanwhile, Paul Ryan’s Republican party continues to view this country as primarily an enterprise zone.

    There is no political representation.

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  55. nebulafox says:
    @Sparkon
    For yours truly, the final blows to the credibility even legitimacy of the Democratic Party were dealt by John Kerry in '04, and Nancy Pelosi in '06.

    In his campaign for President in 2004, Kerry refused to distance or even separate himself from incumbent George W. Bush's illegal¹ invasion of Iraq.


    Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry said Monday he would not have changed his vote to authorize [sic] the war against Iraq, but said he would have handled things "very differently" from President Bush.
     
    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/09/kerry.iraq/

    When she ascended to Speaker of the House after the midterm elections in '06, Nancy Pelosi flexed her flabby bicep, then declared: "Impeachment is off the table," repeating what she'd stated on 60 Minutes earlier in the year.
     https://cdn.deseretnews.com/images/article/hires/645250392/645250392.jpg
    Image: Deseret News²


    Hoping that the Democrats takeover [sic] Congress Nov. 7th and proceed to impeach Bush? According to Nancy Pelosi, who will become Speaker of the House if the Democrats win a majority, impeachment is not going to happen.

    Pelosi told CBS's 60 Minutes Sunday night that, "impeachment is off the table". When asked about this declaration, she went on to assure that "yes it is a pledge", and even called impeachment "a waste of time".
     

    http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.php/reports-on-protest-resistance/3369-nancy-pelosi-declares-impeachment-qoff-the-tableq


    With Democrats like this, who needs Republicans? As they say, our political parties are merely two sides of the same coin. In fact, most of our contemporary Democratic politicians are simply Republicans in drag because both U.S. political parties support the rich -- I mean, "the troops" -- and back their wars.

    -- Footnotes:--

    ¹ Grauniad article from Sept. 16, 2004:


    The United Nations secretary general, Kofi Annan, declared explicitly for the first time last night that the US-led war on Iraq was illegal.
    [...]
    The UN chief had warned the US and its allies a week before the invasion in March 2003 that military action would violate the UN charter. But he has hitherto refrained from using the damning word "illegal".
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/16/iraq.iraq

    ² For some reason, I could find only 2 small pictures of Pelosi flexing her muscles after taking the Speaker's gavel from Boehner in 2006. Scrubbers at work.

    The Democrats couldn’t in 2004 because they already established the precedent that human rights could trump preserving the balance of power or national interests in Yugoslavia under President Clinton-who would also sign the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 with widespread bipartisan support. After all, what made Iraq so different from Yugoslavia? Nobody could seriously argue that Saddam was somehow any less bloody-minded or sociopathic than Milosevic. The only argument that could be made was on national interest grounds (as prominent Republican dissenters like Brent Scowcroft or Pat Buchanan did), which, dissenters such as Obama or Sanders aside, the party establishment couldn’t do after the previous decade, so they boxed themselves in.

    And Iraq, much like Yugoslavia, turned out to be a country that few in Washington bothered to view from a native perspective-an artificial state held together by a strongman with centuries old hatreds exploding from his removal. The only difference was that our intervention was on a far larger scale, and had far larger, more deadly consequences for the US in the long run.

    There were Democrats in 2004 that did advocate unilateral withdrawal, much like Gene McCarthy in 1968, but like in 1968, there was no mass national constituency for it. Baby Boomer-oriented histories tend to get this quite wrong-it wouldn’t have been politically feasible at the time. (Four years later, in both cases, it was a different story. But that took time.) Moreover, they held about as much control over the Clintonian DNC than McCarthy did over the New Dealist party apparatus in 1968. Four years later, like with Vietnam, it was a very different story.

    Johann, Aiden:

    The debacle of 1972 had many causes. That McGovern campaigned on Vietnam like it was still a meaningful issue to most Americans was a pretty stupid move-all ground combat operations had ceased in November of 1971 and American casualties had been reduced from tens of thousands in 1968-1969 to hundreds by 1972. The majority of the fighting was being carried out between the two warring Vietnamese states, with American bombing supporting the South. LBJ tried to point this out to McGovern, but he didn’t listen.

    However, one thing that *didn’t* cause McGovern’s defeat was his economic policies, which enjoyed widespread support and were a key factor in his ability to out-shank rivals in the DNC primary process, apart from the Fraser-McGovern reforms of 1970. The neoliberals tended to get this wrong over the coming years, but the Nixon Administration knew it: one internal memo cited that the only “smart campaigns” in terms of focus on populist economic policies were McGovern’s… and George Wallace’s, another fire-breathing populist from the opposite end of the Democratic Party. (For what it was worth, the Nixon White House itself took a leftward tack on the economy in ’72, which somewhat took away the issue’s potency.)

    The debate is somewhat moot, anyway: Nixon probably would have decisively defeated anybody that year. The nation suffered a near breakdown in the late 1960s, and Nixon’s restoration of order was viewed positively by the vast majority of the electorate, Baby Boomer fantasies to the contrary aside. Humphrey or Muskie might not have lost so badly, but they still would have lost-Nixon had a near 70% approval rating before Watergate blew in an age where the partisan divide was far more easily crossable for voters. That’s why Watergate was such an incredibly stupid scandal. It was totally, completely unnecessary.

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    After all, what made Iraq so different from Yugoslavia? Nobody could seriously argue that Saddam was somehow any less bloody-minded or sociopathic than Milosevic.
     
    You are still trapped in the cradle-to-grave propaganda bubble to which all Americans are subjected. "Our" imperialism is bi-partisan and always accompanied by massive doses of conditioning of the population. You should think about how you succumbed to the conditioning and broaden your sources of information. These days Americans probably need to use foreign sources to know what is really going on in the country. It helps if one can read non-English foreign sources.

    The Exoneration of Milosevic: the ICTY’s Surprise Ruling
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/

    The Bogus ‘Humanitarian’ War on Serbia
    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/24/the-bogus-humanitarian-war-on-serbia/

    Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot
    https://www.upi.com/Exclusive-Saddam-key-in-early-CIA-plot/65571050017416/

    Saddam Hussein: Made in the USA
    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Saddam_MadeInUSA.html
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  56. nebulafox says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message. They keep carping about Russia and Trump because they have no convictions, no beliefs ...
     
    Of course the Dems have a core belief: they are unshakably certain of their own moral superiority.

    Admit it: The entire Democratic party leadership isn’t worth the powder to blow it to hell.
     
    Oh yes they are! Though admittedly, that's all they're worth.

    It is more apropos to view modern Democratic ideology as more akin to religious faith than merely political stances. The process took a while to complete, but it essentially did during the second half of the Obama Administration-it is stunning to compare Democratic statements on immigration policy in the 1990s, where they made at least an effort to care about the fate of working and middle class Americans, to today. Trump is merely the catalyst that has explicitly showcased it for the first time. This is a disease I recognize quite well, this fervor: the same thing happened to the Republicans around a couple of decades ago. You can’t argue with a true believer in this vein. (And it still reigns, because Trump was either too lazy or too intellectually limited-probably a mix of both-to purge it when he had the tricorner stool crowd at his mercy upon beating Hillary.)

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  57. renfro says:

    Don’t let the liberals get your children and teach them to hate whites and worship gays and blacks !!

    The Weekly Standard

    Inside a Public School Social Justice Factory

    The city of Edina has changed the way it approaches public education, putting social justice above learning. The results will shock you.
    5:05 AM, Feb 01, 2018 | By Katherine Kersten

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/inside-a-public-school-social-justice-factory/article/2011402#

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    For decades, the public schools of Edina, Minnesota, were the gold standard among the state’s school districts. Edina is an upscale suburb of Minneapolis, but virtually overnight, its reputation has changed. Academic rigor is unraveling, high school reading and math test scores are sliding, and students increasingly fear bullying and persecution.

    The shift began in 2013, when Edina school leaders adopted the “All for All” strategic plan—a sweeping initiative that reordered the district’s mission from academic excellence for all students to “racial equity.”

    The Edina school district’s All for All plan mandated that henceforth “all teaching and learning experiences” would be viewed through the “lens of racial equity,” and that only “racially conscious” teachers and administrators should be hired. District leaders assured parents this would reduce Edina’s racial achievement gap, which they attributed to “barriers rooted in racial constructs and cultural misunderstandings.”

    As a result, the school system’s obsession with “white privilege” now begins in kindergarten. At Edina’s Highlands Elementary School, for example, K-2 students participate in the Melanin Project. The children trace their hands, color them to reflect their skin tone, and place the cut-outs on a poster reading, “Stop thinking your skin color is better than anyone elses!-[sic] Everyone is special!”

    Highlands Elementary’s new “racially conscious” elementary school principal runs a blog for the school’s community. On it, she approvingly posted pictures of Black Lives Matter propaganda and rainbow gay-pride flags—along with a picture of protesters holding a banner proclaiming “Gay Marriage Is Our Right.” On a more age-appropriate post, she recommended an A-B-C book for small children entitled A is for Activist. (Peruse the book and you find all sorts of solid-gold: “F is for Feminist,” “C is for…Creative Counter to Corporate Vultures,” and “T is for Trans.”)

    At Edina High School, the equity agenda is the leading edge of a full-scale ideological reeducation campaign. A course description of an 11th-grade U.S. Literature and Composition course puts it this way: “By the end of the year, you will have . . . learned how to apply marxist [sic], feminist, post-colonial [and] psychoanalytical . . .lenses to literature.”

    The primary vehicle in the indoctrination effort is a year-long English course—required of all 10th-graders—that centers, not on reading literature and enhancing writing skills, but on the politicized themes of “Colonization,” “Immigration” and “Social Constructions of Race, Class and Gender.”

    One student characterized the course this way on the “Rate My Teachers” website: “This class should be renamed . . . ‘Why white males are bad, and how oppressive they are.’” (The negative review has since been deleted from Edina High’s “Rate My Teachers” page; but this is a screenshot from before it was memory-holed.)

    Increasingly, families who are serious about education are leaving the Edina schools. For example, Orlando Flores and his wife pulled their son—an academic superstar—out of Edina High School in his senior year to escape its hyper-political environment.

    Flores, who fled a Marxist regime in Nicaragua as a child, had this to say: “Years ago, we fled Communism to escape indoctrination, absolutist thinking and restrictions on our freedom of speech. If we see these traits in our schools in America, we must speak out and oppose it.”

    Flores says that when his son was at Edina High, teachers routinely pushed politicians and political positions they favored, shamed and browbeat students with dissenting views, and forced them to defend themselves against baseless allegations of racism. According to his son, he says, classroom discussions were often “one-sided indoctrination sessions,” and students feared their grades would be penalized if they spoke out.

    The final straw for the Flores family occurred when an English teacher subjected their son and a classmate to a lengthy, humiliating and ideologically charged grilling—unlike that faced by other students—after the boys made a presentation with which she disagreed following racially-charged incidents in Ferguson, Missouri.

    When Flores’ son requested an apology, school authorities indignantly took the teacher’s side, says Flores. Fearing retaliation, the boy asked to transfer to another English class. There, a student teacher informed the class they would not be reading classic books because “dead white men are boring,” according to Flores.

    Flores believes that “Race and racism should be discussed” at school. But “relentlessly obsessing about race—pretending it’s the only thing that matters—is counterproductive and harmful to everyone,” he says.

    Like Edina students, the district’s faculty and staff must submit to racial equity re-education.

    One such mandatory session for school bus drivers is illustrative. The widow of a bus driver who had been required to attend the training sent the entire 25-page instructional curriculum to Center of the American Experiment, where I am a senior policy fellow.

    The training session was entitled “Edina School DIstrict Equity and Racial Justice Training: Moving from a Diversity to a Social Justice Lens.” In it, trainers instructed bus drivers that “dismantling white privilege” is “the core of our work as white folks,” and that working for the Edina schools requires “a major paradigm shift in the thinking of white people.” Drivers were exhorted to confess their racial guilt, and embrace the district’s “equity” ideology.

    The result of all of this? Four years into the Edina schools’ equity crusade, black students’ test scores continue to disappoint. There’s been a single positive point of data: Black students’ reading scores—all ages, all grades—have slightly increased, from 45.5 percent proficiency in 2014 to 46.4 percent proficiency in 2017.

    But other than that, the news is all bad. Black students “on track for success” in reading decreased from 48.1 percent in 2014 to 44.9 percent in 2017. Math scores decreased from 49.6 percent proficiency in 2014 to 47.4 percent in 2017. Black students “on track for success” in math decreased from 51.4 percent in 2014 to 44.7 percent in 2017.

    The drop was most notable at the high school level. Math scores for black students in 11th grade at Edina Senior High dropped from 31 percent proficiency in 2014 to 14.6 percent in 2017. In reading, scores for black students in 10th grade at Edina Senior High dropped from 51.7 percent proficiency in 2014 to 40 percent in 2017.

    * * *

    Recently, conservative students at Edina High School filed a federal lawsuit, claiming the district has violated its members’ rights of free speech and association.

    The suit grew out of events following a Veteran’s Day assembly in the high school gym on November 9, 2017. There, a group of veterans spoke about their military service, and the school band played the National Anthem and Taps. During the music, some black students “protested” by refusing to stand, slouching by the bleachers, talking loudly, and blaring music on their cell phones.

    Members of the school’s unofficial Young Conservatives Club (YCC) responded by criticizing the protesters’ behavior, at school and on social media. In response, the protesters and their allies harassed the conservative students, with groups “as large as 30 students . . . daily surrounding club members and threatening to injure them if they did not change their political views,” according to the lawsuit complaint. In addition, a group styling itself the “Edina High School Anti-Fascists” (you have to see the group’s Twitter feed to believe it) posted a threatening YouTube video aimed at the YCC, which declared, “[W]e will not stop until every tentacle of your evil monstrosity is sliced off at the nerve.”

    When the conservative students complained, the school’s principal “responded to their security concerns by saying that [they had] brought it upon themselves by criticizing the protests” at the Veterans Day program, according to the complaint.

    The principal disbanded the YCC after pressuring its president to show him texts its members had sent one another about these incidents on the club’s private GroupMe. Yet school authorities apparently took no disciplinary action against the protesters and other students who had threatened and harassed YCC members.

    The Edina Public Schools’ “policies suggest that ‘all are welcome here,’” the complaint asserts, “but what EPS really means is that all are welcome except conservatives.”

    * * *

    The Edina school district is just one example of the ideological hijacking of legitimate academic instruction in the name of racial equity. There’s more to come. Last October, the Star Tribune ran an op-ed that praised the Edina schools’ racial equity crusade, and condemned what the author described as America’s vicious history of violence and oppression—evidenced today by “Eurocentric curricula,” “hypersegregated schools,” and “biased standardized tests.” Our nation’s “racist practices,” she wrote, are what “allowed this country to expand geographically and to amass its great fortune.” White students, she asserted, must become “racially conscious” to learn “how their own worldviews are limited by whiteness.”

    The writer was Dr. Annie Mogush Mason, program director of elementary teacher education at the University of Minnesota-Twin Cities, where the next generation of Minnesota’s teachers are being formed

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  58. El Dato says:

    Mercy kill when?

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  59. TG says:

    You argue your points well, but I must disagree. I respectfully suggest that you have missed the big picture.

    When Trump was running for president, he suggested that we stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless winless wars, and spend that money on ourselves. For this he was lambasted as ‘literally Hitler.’ When elected, and it looked like he might follow through, we had this Russia thing raised to a ridiculous intensity. This was not supposed to be rational: this was a statement of power, telling Trump that he was going to be crushed logic and evidence be damned. Then he caved, launched missiles at Syria, and it’s back to business as usual. And now, mission accomplished, the elites are letting the entire Russia thing unwind, because they no longer care.

    DACA? Excuse me? Trump just proposed an effectively unlimited and unregulated amnesty for any illegal immigrant – present or future – with no controls. He said he would end chain migration – in 20 years, maybe, yeah right. Nothing about birthright citizenship. Nothing about mandating e-verify. Nothing about the abusive H1B etc. visas. So Trump has caved to the rich donor base – and the media no longer sees a need to vilify him so much, except for the usual political theater. So if Democrats look bad, so what? They’ve won.

    “The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message.” Wrong. Their leader is their wealthy donors (Koch brothers etc.). Their message is whatever they need to say to deliver the goods. All else is political theater.

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    "Rich donor base", nuthin'. Immigration genocide is a Jewish initiative, franchise and campaign. As is the rest of our Government, Trump is being blackmailed by the Jewish Power Configuration.
    , @Eric Novak
    Trump hasn't caved to anyone on immigration. The Dems won't accept any proposal other than amnesty, and Trump knows this.
    , @Sin City Milla
    Trump can't do anything about birthright citizenship. That's up to SCOTUS, which won't change its ideological view of the totalitarian 14th amendment until Repubs finally outnumber the SJooW commissars.
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  60. phil says:
    @Bobbie
    The Democrats are now the party of the Wall Street bankers.

    Congrats to the Clintons and the Gores, because this was their dream when they started the Democratic Leadership Council back in the '80's.

    The Democrat campaigns before the Clintons struck were very different. The Chamber of Commerce Republican campaigns always had more money. The Democrats weren't broke, but they always had less. But they always had grassroots efforts going door to door.

    Looking backwards, its obvious why the Clintons didn't like this. Campaigns that had less money meant less money going into their pockets and into the consultants pockets.

    What the Democratic voters want, "jobs, college tuition, health care, and entitlements", is obviously the exact opposite of what the Wall Street bankers and the other big money behind the modern Democrats want. And in today's Democrat Party, the Big Money controls everything. Anyone paying attention to what few primary challenges occur in the party already knew this. And by now its public record and should be well known that the creature of the Wall Street banks (aka Hillary) helped make sure the Bernie-Hillary race was rigged towards the favorite candidate of the bankers.

    Since the same forces are blocking any 'reform' within the party, its going to stay this way. If anything, the party of the bankers is making sure that none of the Bernie people have any positions of power within the party. And there is no sign that the next Presidential nomination contest won't be as rigged, fake and corrupt as the last one. There is also no sign of a wave of primary challenges to the banker-favorite Democrat incumbents in the primaries that will be occuring within the coming months.

    So, the drive to nuclear war suits the bankers. It makes sure the focus is off any policies the bankers oppose, which is anything that helps anyone except the bankers. The same bankers are invested in the nuke and defense industries that seem intent on driving the world towards a nuclear holocaust.

    If you love bankers and nuclear war, then be a proud Democrat.
    If not, run like heck and get away from the party of bankers and nuclear war.

    While Democrats and Republicans prattle on, the fact is that they haven’t affected macroeconomic performance as much as many people thinks. Kevin MacDonald, for example, has bought into the idea that labor’s compensation has lagged terribly behind improvements in labor productivity.

    The boring reality is that (a) including all workers in the private sector; and (b) adjusting for inflation by using the implicit price deflator instead of the Consumer Price Index, the real compensation of American workers in the private sector (per hour) has multiplied by more than 2.6 since 1964, an average annual increase of almost 2 percent per year.

    On a scale from 0 to 10, where 10 is perfectly free markets, the US is still close to 8 according to the Fraser Institute. New jobs are being created at a rapid rate, and the unemployment rate is close to 4 percent–nearly “full” employment. There is very little inflation.

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    Keep on dreaming its good for the soul so they say, like the millions of unemployed who have thrown in the towel, but we only count the ones drawing unemployment benefits, or perhaps its like the BLS who create jobs out of nowhere ,but then again its your reality and your stuck with it...
    , @MarkinLA
    Even if what you post is true (and I doubt it) it is funny that you have chosen 1964 as the end point. everybody knows the period from 1964 to 1976 had relatively high wage growth. What would your model be if those years were cut out?
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  61. @nsa
    Sub in the word "jooies" for the polite euphemism "bankers"......and your comments would be more accurate.

    Jews have weaponized the rabble (Left) for millennia.

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  62. IvyMike says:

    Never thought term limits would make much difference in governance but, Good Lord, after seeing the haggard zombie corpses of the Dem leadership and watching that poor little Kennedy kid piss and moan and drool it’s obvious that endless unchallenged incumbency has been a disaster for us. Although it was kinda funny seeing such a sloppy disheveled Sen. Cruz looking as if he’d been on a bender with Bannon.

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  63. @Johann
    In 1972 the democrats ran McGovern on a platform of the three As : acid, abortion, and amnesty. Richard Nixon went on to win forty nine states out of fifty, an unprecedented rout. Today fifty years later the Democrats are still running on the three As: Acid(legalization of drugs), abortion ( total non restriction of all abortions and government funded Planned Parenthood) and Amnesty( complete removal of any border control and the importation of any of the seven billion people who live on planet earth). I would also add that today they have added transgenderism and the idea that there is no difference between male and female and the widespread belief that all science is created by the DNC and its famous “the science is settled” dictum. If the Americans vote this absurd party into power then they deserve the grim future that they will surely reap.

    In addition to what you have stated, basically that abortion on demand is a Holy Sacrament for the Democratic Party, I do not see how anyone who calls himself a Christian can vote for that Party.

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    So what exactly is wrong with abortion? You want more botched afro and white trash refuse clogging up the courts, prisons, welfare roles?
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  64. @renfro
    Oh come on......anyone who belongs to either political 'party' is a retard to begin with.

    Well, that was a little too obvious, so I left it unsaid. ;-)

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  65. fnn says:

    Democrats stand up for the state security organs!

    Stressing that such an action would be highly reckless, FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Thursday that releasing the “Nunes Memo” could potentially undermine faith in the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies of the United States. “Making this memo public will almost certainly impede our ability to conduct clandestine activities operating outside any legal or judicial system on an international scale,” said Wray, noting that it was essential that mutual trust exist between the American people and the vast, mysterious cabal given free rein to use any tactics necessary to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizens or subvert religious and political groups. “If we take away the people’s faith in this shadowy monolith exempt from any consequences, all that’s left is an extensive network of rogue, unelected intelligence officers carrying out extrajudicial missions for a variety of subjective, and occasionally personal, reasons.” At press time, Wray confirmed the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies were unaware of any wrongdoing for violating constitutional rights.

    https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican-memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681

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    We've gone a long way from the days of loud Dem support for full publication of the Pentagon Papers whatever its effects on the country. Just as the Dems have gone a long way from supporting the average working Joe. Their response to their electoral disasters? Import a new electorate! (But keep it secret - don't tell Joe!)
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  66. @Alden
    Nixon’s 1972 landslide wasn’t because of McGovern’ abortion acid stance.

    It was economic. McGivern promised, loudly and often that he would eliminate the home mortgage and property tax federal tax deduction.

    That meant that every homeowner in the country voted against him.

    I don’t know why the Democrats allowed him to put that in so many of his speeches. But they did and Nixon won in a landslide.

    Even Jews voted republican that year.

    I thought he lost because he traded a running mate with a covered up history of psychiatric treatment for one that was patently a compromise to the pro-war establishment democrats.

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  67. bluedog says:
    @phil
    While Democrats and Republicans prattle on, the fact is that they haven't affected macroeconomic performance as much as many people thinks. Kevin MacDonald, for example, has bought into the idea that labor's compensation has lagged terribly behind improvements in labor productivity.

    The boring reality is that (a) including all workers in the private sector; and (b) adjusting for inflation by using the implicit price deflator instead of the Consumer Price Index, the real compensation of American workers in the private sector (per hour) has multiplied by more than 2.6 since 1964, an average annual increase of almost 2 percent per year.

    On a scale from 0 to 10, where 10 is perfectly free markets, the US is still close to 8 according to the Fraser Institute. New jobs are being created at a rapid rate, and the unemployment rate is close to 4 percent--nearly "full" employment. There is very little inflation.

    Keep on dreaming its good for the soul so they say, like the millions of unemployed who have thrown in the towel, but we only count the ones drawing unemployment benefits, or perhaps its like the BLS who create jobs out of nowhere ,but then again its your reality and your stuck with it…

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    Sorry, you seem not to know how the unemployment rate is calculated. It is not based on those drawing unemployment benefits. It is based on a monthly survey. It is understood that, to be counted as unemployed, a person must be actively seeking work, and there may be "discouraged workers" who have given up trying and are not counted. But the number of discouraged workers has also shrunk dramatically. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data are certainly imperfect, but they beat anything that is in second place.

    My "starving students" have cars and smart phones.The Super Bowl is on Sunday.

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  68. @TG
    You argue your points well, but I must disagree. I respectfully suggest that you have missed the big picture.

    When Trump was running for president, he suggested that we stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless winless wars, and spend that money on ourselves. For this he was lambasted as 'literally Hitler.' When elected, and it looked like he might follow through, we had this Russia thing raised to a ridiculous intensity. This was not supposed to be rational: this was a statement of power, telling Trump that he was going to be crushed logic and evidence be damned. Then he caved, launched missiles at Syria, and it's back to business as usual. And now, mission accomplished, the elites are letting the entire Russia thing unwind, because they no longer care.

    DACA? Excuse me? Trump just proposed an effectively unlimited and unregulated amnesty for any illegal immigrant - present or future - with no controls. He said he would end chain migration - in 20 years, maybe, yeah right. Nothing about birthright citizenship. Nothing about mandating e-verify. Nothing about the abusive H1B etc. visas. So Trump has caved to the rich donor base - and the media no longer sees a need to vilify him so much, except for the usual political theater. So if Democrats look bad, so what? They've won.

    "The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message." Wrong. Their leader is their wealthy donors (Koch brothers etc.). Their message is whatever they need to say to deliver the goods. All else is political theater.

    “Rich donor base”, nuthin’. Immigration genocide is a Jewish initiative, franchise and campaign. As is the rest of our Government, Trump is being blackmailed by the Jewish Power Configuration.

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  69. nsa says:
    @Simply Simon
    In addition to what you have stated, basically that abortion on demand is a Holy Sacrament for the Democratic Party, I do not see how anyone who calls himself a Christian can vote for that Party.

    So what exactly is wrong with abortion? You want more botched afro and white trash refuse clogging up the courts, prisons, welfare roles?

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    I can only say that if you are a pro-life Christian you must believe that abortion is morally wrong (the usual exceptions) If you are not a Christian I suppose it does not matter, but to use abortion as a form of birth control seems extreme to me, regardless of race, color or religion.
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  70. @TG
    You argue your points well, but I must disagree. I respectfully suggest that you have missed the big picture.

    When Trump was running for president, he suggested that we stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless winless wars, and spend that money on ourselves. For this he was lambasted as 'literally Hitler.' When elected, and it looked like he might follow through, we had this Russia thing raised to a ridiculous intensity. This was not supposed to be rational: this was a statement of power, telling Trump that he was going to be crushed logic and evidence be damned. Then he caved, launched missiles at Syria, and it's back to business as usual. And now, mission accomplished, the elites are letting the entire Russia thing unwind, because they no longer care.

    DACA? Excuse me? Trump just proposed an effectively unlimited and unregulated amnesty for any illegal immigrant - present or future - with no controls. He said he would end chain migration - in 20 years, maybe, yeah right. Nothing about birthright citizenship. Nothing about mandating e-verify. Nothing about the abusive H1B etc. visas. So Trump has caved to the rich donor base - and the media no longer sees a need to vilify him so much, except for the usual political theater. So if Democrats look bad, so what? They've won.

    "The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message." Wrong. Their leader is their wealthy donors (Koch brothers etc.). Their message is whatever they need to say to deliver the goods. All else is political theater.

    Trump hasn’t caved to anyone on immigration. The Dems won’t accept any proposal other than amnesty, and Trump knows this.

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  71. phil says:
    @bluedog
    Keep on dreaming its good for the soul so they say, like the millions of unemployed who have thrown in the towel, but we only count the ones drawing unemployment benefits, or perhaps its like the BLS who create jobs out of nowhere ,but then again its your reality and your stuck with it...

    Sorry, you seem not to know how the unemployment rate is calculated. It is not based on those drawing unemployment benefits. It is based on a monthly survey. It is understood that, to be counted as unemployed, a person must be actively seeking work, and there may be “discouraged workers” who have given up trying and are not counted. But the number of discouraged workers has also shrunk dramatically. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data are certainly imperfect, but they beat anything that is in second place.

    My “starving students” have cars and smart phones.The Super Bowl is on Sunday.

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    Here is a former Asst. Secy of Treasury (GOP) who explains why your argument is specious.

    Employment Lies — Paul Craig Roberts
    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/03/employment-lies-paul-craig-roberts/

    The US Economy Is Failing — Paul Craig Roberts
    http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-us-economy-is-failing-paul-craig-roberts/
    , @bluedog
    The BlS is a con game as they adjust the figures up and down, for a much truer rate of unemployment would be by using those who are employed,labor participation which fails to jibe with their 4% or full employment scam,or the fact that every American worker saved thousands of dollars.If you believe which you seem to do the BLS report do so at your own risk..
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  72. what worries me even more is that, just when we need a strong, highly-principled, credible opposition party to fight the good fight for wages, the environment, social services, education, infrastructure, civil liberties, and peace– the Democrats have turned into jello, a wobbly, gelatinous mass of ingratiating losers. What’s that all about?

    but the dems also support the war and bases. I still remember hillary and her maniacal laughter about gaddafi’s death. will probably never forget it.

    judging how dems flails about, trump will get 4 more years for sure. too retarded. or maybe that is what the handlers want. because trump has been doing what they wanted :)

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  73. @druid
    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!

    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!

    Good try, but short on the facts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi

    Pelosi is Italian-American. She is the youngest of six children of Annunciata M. “Nancy” (née Lombardi) (1909–?), who was born in Campobasso,[3] South Italy, and Thomas D’Alesandro, Jr., who was a Democratic party U.S. Congressman from Maryland and a Mayor of Baltimore.[4][5] Pelosi’s brother, Thomas D’Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971, when he chose not to run for re-election.[6]

    Pelosi was involved with politics from an early age. In her outgoing remarks as the 52nd Speaker of the House, Pelosi said that she had attended John F. Kennedy’s inaugural address when he became President in January 1961. She graduated from the Institute of Notre Dame, a Catholic all-girls high school in Baltimore, and from Trinity College in Washington, D.C. in 1962, with a B.A. in political science.[7] Pelosi interned for Senator Daniel Brewster (D-Maryland) alongside future House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.[8] She met Paul Frank Pelosi (b. April 15, 1940, in San Francisco)[9] while she was attending Trinity College.[10] They married in Baltimore at the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen on September 7, 1963.

    If she’s Jewish, that’s a whole lot of subterfuge.

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  74. hyperbola says:
    @nebulafox
    The Democrats couldn't in 2004 because they already established the precedent that human rights could trump preserving the balance of power or national interests in Yugoslavia under President Clinton-who would also sign the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 with widespread bipartisan support. After all, what made Iraq so different from Yugoslavia? Nobody could seriously argue that Saddam was somehow any less bloody-minded or sociopathic than Milosevic. The only argument that could be made was on national interest grounds (as prominent Republican dissenters like Brent Scowcroft or Pat Buchanan did), which, dissenters such as Obama or Sanders aside, the party establishment couldn't do after the previous decade, so they boxed themselves in.

    And Iraq, much like Yugoslavia, turned out to be a country that few in Washington bothered to view from a native perspective-an artificial state held together by a strongman with centuries old hatreds exploding from his removal. The only difference was that our intervention was on a far larger scale, and had far larger, more deadly consequences for the US in the long run.

    There were Democrats in 2004 that did advocate unilateral withdrawal, much like Gene McCarthy in 1968, but like in 1968, there was no mass national constituency for it. Baby Boomer-oriented histories tend to get this quite wrong-it wouldn't have been politically feasible at the time. (Four years later, in both cases, it was a different story. But that took time.) Moreover, they held about as much control over the Clintonian DNC than McCarthy did over the New Dealist party apparatus in 1968. Four years later, like with Vietnam, it was a very different story.

    Johann, Aiden:

    The debacle of 1972 had many causes. That McGovern campaigned on Vietnam like it was still a meaningful issue to most Americans was a pretty stupid move-all ground combat operations had ceased in November of 1971 and American casualties had been reduced from tens of thousands in 1968-1969 to hundreds by 1972. The majority of the fighting was being carried out between the two warring Vietnamese states, with American bombing supporting the South. LBJ tried to point this out to McGovern, but he didn't listen.

    However, one thing that *didn't* cause McGovern's defeat was his economic policies, which enjoyed widespread support and were a key factor in his ability to out-shank rivals in the DNC primary process, apart from the Fraser-McGovern reforms of 1970. The neoliberals tended to get this wrong over the coming years, but the Nixon Administration knew it: one internal memo cited that the only "smart campaigns" in terms of focus on populist economic policies were McGovern's... and George Wallace's, another fire-breathing populist from the opposite end of the Democratic Party. (For what it was worth, the Nixon White House itself took a leftward tack on the economy in '72, which somewhat took away the issue's potency.)

    The debate is somewhat moot, anyway: Nixon probably would have decisively defeated anybody that year. The nation suffered a near breakdown in the late 1960s, and Nixon's restoration of order was viewed positively by the vast majority of the electorate, Baby Boomer fantasies to the contrary aside. Humphrey or Muskie might not have lost so badly, but they still would have lost-Nixon had a near 70% approval rating before Watergate blew in an age where the partisan divide was far more easily crossable for voters. That's why Watergate was such an incredibly stupid scandal. It was totally, completely unnecessary.

    After all, what made Iraq so different from Yugoslavia? Nobody could seriously argue that Saddam was somehow any less bloody-minded or sociopathic than Milosevic.

    You are still trapped in the cradle-to-grave propaganda bubble to which all Americans are subjected. “Our” imperialism is bi-partisan and always accompanied by massive doses of conditioning of the population. You should think about how you succumbed to the conditioning and broaden your sources of information. These days Americans probably need to use foreign sources to know what is really going on in the country. It helps if one can read non-English foreign sources.

    The Exoneration of Milosevic: the ICTY’s Surprise Ruling

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/01/the-exoneration-of-milosevic-the-ictys-surprise-ruling/

    The Bogus ‘Humanitarian’ War on Serbia

    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/08/24/the-bogus-humanitarian-war-on-serbia/

    Exclusive: Saddam key in early CIA plot

    https://www.upi.com/Exclusive-Saddam-key-in-early-CIA-plot/65571050017416/

    Saddam Hussein: Made in the USA

    http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Saddam_MadeInUSA.html

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  75. hyperbola says:
    @phil
    Sorry, you seem not to know how the unemployment rate is calculated. It is not based on those drawing unemployment benefits. It is based on a monthly survey. It is understood that, to be counted as unemployed, a person must be actively seeking work, and there may be "discouraged workers" who have given up trying and are not counted. But the number of discouraged workers has also shrunk dramatically. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data are certainly imperfect, but they beat anything that is in second place.

    My "starving students" have cars and smart phones.The Super Bowl is on Sunday.

    Here is a former Asst. Secy of Treasury (GOP) who explains why your argument is specious.

    Employment Lies — Paul Craig Roberts

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/03/employment-lies-paul-craig-roberts/

    The US Economy Is Failing — Paul Craig Roberts

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-us-economy-is-failing-paul-craig-roberts/

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  76. bluedog says:
    @phil
    Sorry, you seem not to know how the unemployment rate is calculated. It is not based on those drawing unemployment benefits. It is based on a monthly survey. It is understood that, to be counted as unemployed, a person must be actively seeking work, and there may be "discouraged workers" who have given up trying and are not counted. But the number of discouraged workers has also shrunk dramatically. The Bureau of Labor Statistics data are certainly imperfect, but they beat anything that is in second place.

    My "starving students" have cars and smart phones.The Super Bowl is on Sunday.

    The BlS is a con game as they adjust the figures up and down, for a much truer rate of unemployment would be by using those who are employed,labor participation which fails to jibe with their 4% or full employment scam,or the fact that every American worker saved thousands of dollars.If you believe which you seem to do the BLS report do so at your own risk..

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  77. @nsa
    So what exactly is wrong with abortion? You want more botched afro and white trash refuse clogging up the courts, prisons, welfare roles?

    I can only say that if you are a pro-life Christian you must believe that abortion is morally wrong (the usual exceptions) If you are not a Christian I suppose it does not matter, but to use abortion as a form of birth control seems extreme to me, regardless of race, color or religion.

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    What, exactly, is "extreme" about terminating a fetus with trisomy 21, i.e. a fetus with the genome of Down syndrome??

    Well, nothing. In fact, we ought to call it prudent if not also obligatory. We need to make choices about the worlds in which we will live, and obstinate sentimentalizing of all life, however degenerate, will not guide us toward the best choices.

    Thank you, however, for your remarks. They remind us that Christianity is a dysgenic cult which (surprise!) has much in common with "Progressivism"

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  78. uslabor says:
    @Authenticjazzman
    If one were to undertake a survey in the waiting rooms of shrinks, psychologists and psychiatrists, of the party affiliations of the folks waiting for therapy and or medication , one would come to the not so suprising results of : 98% Democrat.

    Just who actually are the supporters of this abberated, bonkers political entity :
    Okay start with millions of urban "baby mommas" and their shiftless offspring, living off of the hapless working stiffs til the end of their days.
    Then progress to blue-hair nut cases, permanent fifty-semester students clogging up the already destroyed edumacation sysstem, and then on to the legions of communist teachers/perfessers and admin personal, and then to the hollywood air-brains who can't spell Karl Marx, yet are determined to push his sick concepts onto the decent, up six in the morning, working folks.

    And then onto the armies of gov employees, then to the thousands of shit-talking attorneys, so-called journalists, so-called "artists" non-musicians : enemies of music rappers, leftist clergy pushing the democrat vote from their position of "authority", damn the list could go on for miles, but suffice it to say I guess I made my point.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa"qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    I guess anybody could say they’re a professional jazz musician. You don’t have to be a member of Mensa to know that.

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    The DOD is a hot bed of communists, socialists and wealth redistribution folks. Whenever wealth needs to be redistributed for the benefit of corporate monoliths in defense - bipartisan courtesans goose step to the line. The voting class supports perpetual war. Every time the military fires a weapon, some rich person profits and the dead Middle Class pays to replenish the fired munition.
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  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @uslabor
    I guess anybody could say they're a professional jazz musician. You don't have to be a member of Mensa to know that.

    The DOD is a hot bed of communists, socialists and wealth redistribution folks. Whenever wealth needs to be redistributed for the benefit of corporate monoliths in defense – bipartisan courtesans goose step to the line. The voting class supports perpetual war. Every time the military fires a weapon, some rich person profits and the dead Middle Class pays to replenish the fired munition.

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  80. MarkinLA says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Presented as an article about the Democrats, the article is, in fact, all about Russia. Like so many others, the author is obviously scared silly of Russiagate, which suggests that there is something very dirty in Russiagate which has not yet come to light. Thus, we’re getting the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions: “it’s not working; stop wasting your time”. We also get the usual argument that Trump ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” (which translates from Orwellian into English as “capitulate to Putin in Ukraine”). In other words, the usual pro-Putin propaganda.

    I have to admit that you do give Tiny Duck a run for his money in the stupid to the point of being hilarious category. He just doesn’t spend as many words on his as you do. You might consider putting these into a book or working up a stand up comedy act.

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  81. MarkinLA says:
    @phil
    While Democrats and Republicans prattle on, the fact is that they haven't affected macroeconomic performance as much as many people thinks. Kevin MacDonald, for example, has bought into the idea that labor's compensation has lagged terribly behind improvements in labor productivity.

    The boring reality is that (a) including all workers in the private sector; and (b) adjusting for inflation by using the implicit price deflator instead of the Consumer Price Index, the real compensation of American workers in the private sector (per hour) has multiplied by more than 2.6 since 1964, an average annual increase of almost 2 percent per year.

    On a scale from 0 to 10, where 10 is perfectly free markets, the US is still close to 8 according to the Fraser Institute. New jobs are being created at a rapid rate, and the unemployment rate is close to 4 percent--nearly "full" employment. There is very little inflation.

    Even if what you post is true (and I doubt it) it is funny that you have chosen 1964 as the end point. everybody knows the period from 1964 to 1976 had relatively high wage growth. What would your model be if those years were cut out?

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  82. @Miro23

    Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level. I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone. I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the Neo-cons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.
     
    Yes, it degrades as you go up the structure.

    Senate Democratic Party leader, dual Israeli/US citizen Charles "Chuck" Schumer was elected unanimously in 2017, while openly declaring that he's the Nº1 defender of Israel. You can't say the he believes in nothing - it's just that the interests of the United States are secondary those of Israel, whatever happens.

    And apart from the current leaders, that also seems to apply in the past, to a host of other dual Israeli/US citizens holding top US government positions, for example:

    1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
    2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
    3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
    4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
    5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
    6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
    7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
    8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
    9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
    10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
    11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
    12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
    13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
    14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
    15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
    16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
    17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
    18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
    19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
    20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
    21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
    22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
    23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
    24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
    25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
    26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
    27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
    28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
    29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
    30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
    31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
    32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
    33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis

    Senate:

    •Senator Barbara Boxer (California)
    •Senator Benjamin Cardin (Maryland)
    •Senator Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Al Franken (Minnesota)
    •Senator Dianne Feinstein (California)
    •Senator Herb Kohl (Wisconsin)
    •Senator Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)
    •Senator Joe Lieberman (Connecticut) (Independent)
    •Senator Carl Levin (Michigan)
    •Senator Ron Wyden (Oregon)

    House of Representatives:

    •Representative Gary Ackerman (New York)
    •Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
    •Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
    •Representative Howard Berman (California)
    •Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
    •Representative Susan Davis (California)
    •Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
    •Representative Bob Filner (California)
    •Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
    •Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
    •Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
    •Representative Jane Harman (California)
    •Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
    •Representative Steve Israel (New York)
    •Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
    •Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
    •Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
    •Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
    •Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
    •Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
    •Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
    •Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
    •Representative Adam Schiff (California)
    •Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
    •Representative Brad Sherman (California)
    •Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    •Representative Henry Waxman (California)
    •Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
    •Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

    First defeat DACA, then outlaw dual citizenship. There is no such thing as dual loyalty. A dog doesn’t wag its tail at both ends.

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  83. @TG
    You argue your points well, but I must disagree. I respectfully suggest that you have missed the big picture.

    When Trump was running for president, he suggested that we stop spending trillions of dollars on pointless winless wars, and spend that money on ourselves. For this he was lambasted as 'literally Hitler.' When elected, and it looked like he might follow through, we had this Russia thing raised to a ridiculous intensity. This was not supposed to be rational: this was a statement of power, telling Trump that he was going to be crushed logic and evidence be damned. Then he caved, launched missiles at Syria, and it's back to business as usual. And now, mission accomplished, the elites are letting the entire Russia thing unwind, because they no longer care.

    DACA? Excuse me? Trump just proposed an effectively unlimited and unregulated amnesty for any illegal immigrant - present or future - with no controls. He said he would end chain migration - in 20 years, maybe, yeah right. Nothing about birthright citizenship. Nothing about mandating e-verify. Nothing about the abusive H1B etc. visas. So Trump has caved to the rich donor base - and the media no longer sees a need to vilify him so much, except for the usual political theater. So if Democrats look bad, so what? They've won.

    "The Dems are a party without a leader and without a message." Wrong. Their leader is their wealthy donors (Koch brothers etc.). Their message is whatever they need to say to deliver the goods. All else is political theater.

    Trump can’t do anything about birthright citizenship. That’s up to SCOTUS, which won’t change its ideological view of the totalitarian 14th amendment until Repubs finally outnumber the SJooW commissars.

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    The pubes will never go for rescinding the 14th. It is their first major work as a socialist party, and it's still scripture as far as the GOP hierarchy view it. Now, tell me that you do know that the republican party is the first socialist party to gain power in the US.

    If you don't know that, then you need to wake up and stop supporting them.
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  84. @fnn
    Democrats stand up for the state security organs!

    Stressing that such an action would be highly reckless, FBI Director Christopher Wray warned Thursday that releasing the “Nunes Memo” could potentially undermine faith in the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies of the United States. “Making this memo public will almost certainly impede our ability to conduct clandestine activities operating outside any legal or judicial system on an international scale,” said Wray, noting that it was essential that mutual trust exist between the American people and the vast, mysterious cabal given free rein to use any tactics necessary to conduct surveillance on U.S. citizens or subvert religious and political groups. “If we take away the people’s faith in this shadowy monolith exempt from any consequences, all that’s left is an extensive network of rogue, unelected intelligence officers carrying out extrajudicial missions for a variety of subjective, and occasionally personal, reasons.” At press time, Wray confirmed the massive, unaccountable government secret agencies were unaware of any wrongdoing for violating constitutional rights.
     
    https://politics.theonion.com/fbi-warns-republican-memo-could-undermine-faith-in-mass-1822639681

    We’ve gone a long way from the days of loud Dem support for full publication of the Pentagon Papers whatever its effects on the country. Just as the Dems have gone a long way from supporting the average working Joe. Their response to their electoral disasters? Import a new electorate! (But keep it secret – don’t tell Joe!)

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  85. Sparkon says:

    Losers march in protest of Bush’s planned war of aggression against Iraq in 2003.


    Peace marchers in San Francisco, Feb. 15, 2003
    Image: Common Dreams

    Losers in action, I guess. I doubt there were many Republicans, paleocons, neocons, or alt-right marchers out that day protesting the impending illegal invasion.

    The previous day, 2/14/2003, the UN Security Council went in session to hear the report of UN weapons inspectors, which said no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq.

    Despite the UN report, despite the massive world-wide protests, despite Kofi Annan’s warning, the Bush administration went ahead with its planned attack on Iraq, overthrew Hussein, and executed him, throwing the region into chaos, which continues.

    The loser Iraqis.

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    Those aren't "Peace marchers" but, as you wrote, mere "Losers". The losers were still bitter that their candidate had lost in Nov. 2000, and at the behest of commies like ANSWER, they were trying to overthrow the elected government without precipitating a brutal backlash against theirselves. As in Nov 2016, the losers tacitly agreed in Nov 2000 to accept the election results. After they lost, the losers showed with their many ugly, hateful marches and protests that they were only faking their assent to the rules of elections. There would have been few or no such outbursts if Al Gore had become president and, hence, the neocons' tool, just as Barry became the neocons' tool in Jan 2009.

    Does any of this sound familiar?

    A communist showed last summer on a baseball field that commies are losing their fear of triggers. It's probable also that the massacre in Las Vegas last year is more evidence that the commies and allegedly "liberal" twits are making their way toward another of their many bloody rebellions and totalitarian dictatorships.

    Now is a good time to relearn an important lesson, one usually ignored by the blind mice of conservatism, about how Fidel, Che, etc. came to power in Cuba. Basically, they prompted gullible illiberal twits to do much of the fighting and dying in the west, esp. in and around Havanna. Then the commies marched and drove triumphantly into power. Castro did have a puppet installed as a figurehead, but eventually that ruse was abandoned.

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  86. Allan says:
    @Sparkon
    Losers march in protest of Bush's planned war of aggression against Iraq in 2003.

    https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/imce-images/sf_no_war.jpg
    Peace marchers in San Francisco, Feb. 15, 2003
    Image: Common Dreams

    Losers in action, I guess. I doubt there were many Republicans, paleocons, neocons, or alt-right marchers out that day protesting the impending illegal invasion.

    The previous day, 2/14/2003, the UN Security Council went in session to hear the report of UN weapons inspectors, which said no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq.

    Despite the UN report, despite the massive world-wide protests, despite Kofi Annan's warning, the Bush administration went ahead with its planned attack on Iraq, overthrew Hussein, and executed him, throwing the region into chaos, which continues.

    The loser Iraqis.

    Those aren’t “Peace marchers” but, as you wrote, mere “Losers”. The losers were still bitter that their candidate had lost in Nov. 2000, and at the behest of commies like ANSWER, they were trying to overthrow the elected government without precipitating a brutal backlash against theirselves. As in Nov 2016, the losers tacitly agreed in Nov 2000 to accept the election results. After they lost, the losers showed with their many ugly, hateful marches and protests that they were only faking their assent to the rules of elections. There would have been few or no such outbursts if Al Gore had become president and, hence, the neocons’ tool, just as Barry became the neocons’ tool in Jan 2009.

    Does any of this sound familiar?

    A communist showed last summer on a baseball field that commies are losing their fear of triggers. It’s probable also that the massacre in Las Vegas last year is more evidence that the commies and allegedly “liberal” twits are making their way toward another of their many bloody rebellions and totalitarian dictatorships.

    Now is a good time to relearn an important lesson, one usually ignored by the blind mice of conservatism, about how Fidel, Che, etc. came to power in Cuba. Basically, they prompted gullible illiberal twits to do much of the fighting and dying in the west, esp. in and around Havanna. Then the commies marched and drove triumphantly into power. Castro did have a puppet installed as a figurehead, but eventually that ruse was abandoned.

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    Nice work dodging the relevant points about no WMD, Kofi Anann's warning, and the will of the American people, and instead taking a cheap shot at my ironic use of the word "losers."

    You go downhill from that inauspicious start by applying your pathetic spin to the rigged recount in Florida to settle the 2000 election.

    Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

    The peace demonstrations of February 15, 2003 were said to be the largest protest in history, with participation by 10s of millions worldwide in over 600 cities, including 3 million who turned out in Rome, Italy, but you want to change the subject, and talk about Cuba, and Las Vegas.

    Neither of those places is in ruins, but Iraq is.

    Sophistry and specious spin will get you nowhere with me, so give it up.
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  87. Allan says:
    @Simply Simon
    I can only say that if you are a pro-life Christian you must believe that abortion is morally wrong (the usual exceptions) If you are not a Christian I suppose it does not matter, but to use abortion as a form of birth control seems extreme to me, regardless of race, color or religion.

    What, exactly, is “extreme” about terminating a fetus with trisomy 21, i.e. a fetus with the genome of Down syndrome??

    Well, nothing. In fact, we ought to call it prudent if not also obligatory. We need to make choices about the worlds in which we will live, and obstinate sentimentalizing of all life, however degenerate, will not guide us toward the best choices.

    Thank you, however, for your remarks. They remind us that Christianity is a dysgenic cult which (surprise!) has much in common with “Progressivism”

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    As a Christian I am proud to be a member of a "dysgenic cult" which includes so many giants of the arts and sciences. Not one comes to mind as a Progressive. I believe they too would agree that abortion as a form of birth control is extreme, with the usual exceptions.
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  88. This will be all out war now.

    The Mule-er carrier for the Deep State will now double and triple down and have Trump indicted.

    For something!

    For ANYTHING!

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  89. Sparkon says:
    @Allan
    Those aren't "Peace marchers" but, as you wrote, mere "Losers". The losers were still bitter that their candidate had lost in Nov. 2000, and at the behest of commies like ANSWER, they were trying to overthrow the elected government without precipitating a brutal backlash against theirselves. As in Nov 2016, the losers tacitly agreed in Nov 2000 to accept the election results. After they lost, the losers showed with their many ugly, hateful marches and protests that they were only faking their assent to the rules of elections. There would have been few or no such outbursts if Al Gore had become president and, hence, the neocons' tool, just as Barry became the neocons' tool in Jan 2009.

    Does any of this sound familiar?

    A communist showed last summer on a baseball field that commies are losing their fear of triggers. It's probable also that the massacre in Las Vegas last year is more evidence that the commies and allegedly "liberal" twits are making their way toward another of their many bloody rebellions and totalitarian dictatorships.

    Now is a good time to relearn an important lesson, one usually ignored by the blind mice of conservatism, about how Fidel, Che, etc. came to power in Cuba. Basically, they prompted gullible illiberal twits to do much of the fighting and dying in the west, esp. in and around Havanna. Then the commies marched and drove triumphantly into power. Castro did have a puppet installed as a figurehead, but eventually that ruse was abandoned.

    Nice work dodging the relevant points about no WMD, Kofi Anann’s warning, and the will of the American people, and instead taking a cheap shot at my ironic use of the word “losers.”

    You go downhill from that inauspicious start by applying your pathetic spin to the rigged recount in Florida to settle the 2000 election.

    Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

    The peace demonstrations of February 15, 2003 were said to be the largest protest in history, with participation by 10s of millions worldwide in over 600 cities, including 3 million who turned out in Rome, Italy, but you want to change the subject, and talk about Cuba, and Las Vegas.

    Neither of those places is in ruins, but Iraq is.

    Sophistry and specious spin will get you nowhere with me, so give it up.

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  90. annamaria says:
    @Michael Kenny
    Presented as an article about the Democrats, the article is, in fact, all about Russia. Like so many others, the author is obviously scared silly of Russiagate, which suggests that there is something very dirty in Russiagate which has not yet come to light. Thus, we’re getting the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions: “it’s not working; stop wasting your time”. We also get the usual argument that Trump ran on a campaign of “non-intervention” (which translates from Orwellian into English as “capitulate to Putin in Ukraine”). In other words, the usual pro-Putin propaganda.

    “… the same propaganda argument as we get about Russian sanctions…”
    Mr. Kenny, you have been consistently supporting and propagandizing the Ukrainian neo-Nazis brought to power by Nuland-Kagan (StateDept) and Brennan (the CIA) during coup d’etat in 2014. Do you have any vestiges of decency? — or you are not able to understand this question at all? We have got already that Israel-firsters welcome both useful neo-Nazis and useful “moderate” jihadists of ISIS.

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  91. annamaria says:
    @nebulafox
    Yes. And the kicker here is that it was all completely unnecessary. In 1983, the Soviet Union was a ideologically driven superpower that could only be deterred from expansionist ambitions by a broad NATO alliance. Russia today is a crony-ridden kleptocracy, an oil-dependent state with the GDP of Mexico, that only has the ability to project hard power in areas with ethnic Russians or directly friendly ethnic groups.

    To speak of the "need" for anti-Assad involvement in Syria, as the Obama Administration did, on the primary basis of thinly disguised ideological challenge is ludicrous. Putin's primary goal is to stay rich and to stay in power, and he's willing to embrace whatever ideology lets him do that. Yet our policy in Syria can only have been described in terms of presenting a challenge for the sake of simply opposing Russia-never mind that it directly contradicted Obama's attempts to start to have a more normal relationship with Iran. (The ugly truth that little playwright Ben Rhodes will never pick up on: the mullahs care far, far more about having their Shi'a belt to the Mediterranean, thus Assad staying in power, than any piece of paper signed in Geneva.)

    You have parroted all the main anti-Russia points as they are presented by MSM. What are you doing here, on this forum? Unz Revew is hated by ziocons for independent research. Here you come spewing the ziocon propaganda and sounding like Eliot Higgins, the famous “expert” in Russian affairs and former seller of ladies’ underwear (no other education or job in his CV, before the ignoramus embarked on his jihad against Russians). This forum is no Atlantic Council. Use another door. http://russialist.org/sharon-tennison-russia-report-on-putin/

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  92. @Laugh Track

    Nancy is Jewish. Have to cull the whites!
     
    Good try, but short on the facts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi

    Pelosi is Italian-American. She is the youngest of six children of Annunciata M. "Nancy" (née Lombardi) (1909–?), who was born in Campobasso,[3] South Italy, and Thomas D'Alesandro, Jr., who was a Democratic party U.S. Congressman from Maryland and a Mayor of Baltimore.[4][5] Pelosi's brother, Thomas D'Alesandro III, also a Democrat, was mayor of Baltimore from 1967 to 1971, when he chose not to run for re-election.[6]

    Pelosi was involved with politics from an early age. In her outgoing remarks as the 52nd Speaker of the House, Pelosi said that she had attended John F. Kennedy's inaugural address when he became President in January 1961. She graduated from the Institute of Notre Dame, a Catholic all-girls high school in Baltimore, and from Trinity College in Washington, D.C. in 1962, with a B.A. in political science.[7] Pelosi interned for Senator Daniel Brewster (D-Maryland) alongside future House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.[8] She met Paul Frank Pelosi (b. April 15, 1940, in San Francisco)[9] while she was attending Trinity College.[10] They married in Baltimore at the Cathedral of Mary Our Queen on September 7, 1963.
     
    If she's Jewish, that's a whole lot of subterfuge.

    Did you check other Jews also?

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  93. annamaria says:

    Inevitably, the biography and job accompishments of Mr. Steele are coming into focus: http://www.turcopolier.typepad.com
    “In the light of the suggestion in the Nunes memo that Steele was ‘a longtime FBI source’ it seems worth sketching out some background, which may also make it easier to see some possible reasons why he ‘was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.’
    There is reason to suspect that some former and very likely current employees of the FBI have been colluding with elements in other American and British intelligence agencies, in particular the CIA and MI6, in support of an extremely ambitious foreign policy agenda for a very long time. It also seems clear that influential journalists, such as Glenn Simpson was before founding Fusion GPS, along with his wife Mary Jacoby, have been strongly involved in this.
    This agenda has involved hopes for ‘régime change’ in Russia, whether as the result of an oligarchic coup, a popular revolt, or some combination of both. Also central have been hopes for a further ‘rollback’ of Russia influence in the post-Soviet space, both in areas now independent, such as Ukraine, and also ones still part of the Russian Federation, notably Chechnya. And, crucially, it involved exploiting the retreat of Russian power from the Middle East for ‘régime change’ projects which it was hoped would provide a definitive solution to the – inherently intractable – security problems of a Jewish settler state in the area.”

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  94. @Allan
    What, exactly, is "extreme" about terminating a fetus with trisomy 21, i.e. a fetus with the genome of Down syndrome??

    Well, nothing. In fact, we ought to call it prudent if not also obligatory. We need to make choices about the worlds in which we will live, and obstinate sentimentalizing of all life, however degenerate, will not guide us toward the best choices.

    Thank you, however, for your remarks. They remind us that Christianity is a dysgenic cult which (surprise!) has much in common with "Progressivism"

    As a Christian I am proud to be a member of a “dysgenic cult” which includes so many giants of the arts and sciences. Not one comes to mind as a Progressive. I believe they too would agree that abortion as a form of birth control is extreme, with the usual exceptions.

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  95. What is not stated is that there are no viable means left to implement changes to our destroyed nation, none.
    Those who work within a party and assign who may run, find those who do not wish to be our “Representatives; ” instead those that want to join one branch or other that”Rules”.
    Where within today’s finacial, militRy/scientific, political system and especially the military, that have character traits not already corrupted by the system?
    Where has honor found anywhere except in the smallest places , some hard or smart working non religious affiliated man or woman; they who have to fight a deliberately ignorant population mass,.

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  96. @Sin City Milla
    Trump can't do anything about birthright citizenship. That's up to SCOTUS, which won't change its ideological view of the totalitarian 14th amendment until Repubs finally outnumber the SJooW commissars.

    The pubes will never go for rescinding the 14th. It is their first major work as a socialist party, and it’s still scripture as far as the GOP hierarchy view it. Now, tell me that you do know that the republican party is the first socialist party to gain power in the US.

    If you don’t know that, then you need to wake up and stop supporting them.

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  97. Alden says:
    @MEexpert

    Look: I worked in the Democratic party at the local level.

    I know that the people at the grassroots level are sincere, principled people that are truly committed to making the country a better place for everyone.
     
    Every politician that gets elected is committed to making the country a better place for everyone. But once elected, the tune changes, when they get indoctrinated by the AIPAC and get a tour of Israel.

    I know that! But there comes a time when you have to accept the reality the party’s leaders believe in nothing, that they are joined at the hip with arms dealers, the neocons, the Intel agencies, Wall Street and the rest of the vermin who control this country.
     
    End of story.
     

    AIPAC doesn’t wait till the critters are elected to Congress. It finds its critters when they’re in college. By the time they’re elected to their first public office they are totally owned and controlled by AIPAC

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