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“Our U.S. Army contacts in the area have told us this is not what happened. There was no Syrian ‘chemical weapons attack.’ Instead, a Syrian aircraft bombed an al-Qaeda-in-Syria ammunition depot that turned out to be full of noxious chemicals and a strong wind blew the chemical-laden cloud over a nearby village where many consequently died…..This is what the Russians and Syrians have been saying and – more important –what they appear to believe happened.”

— Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, 20 former members of the US Intelligence Community (names below)

You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that the case against Syrian President Bashar al Assad is extremely weak. The chemical weapons attack in Khan Shaykhun, has produced no smoking gun, no damning evidence, in fact, no evidence at all. Similar to the Russia hacking fiasco, (not a shred of evidence so far) the western media and the entire political class has made the case for attacking a sovereign country on the thin gruel of a few videos of an incident that took place in a location that is currently under the control of militant groups connected to al Qaida. That’s pretty shaky grounds for a conviction, don’t you think?

And it’s not up to Assad to prove his innocence either. That’s baloney. The burden of proof rests with the prosecution. If Trump and his lieutenants have evidence that the Syrian President used chemical weapons, then– by all means– let’s see it and be done with it. If not, we have to assume that Assad is innocent, not because we like Assad, but because these are the legal precedents that one follows to establish the truth. And that’s what we want, we want to know what really happened.

Neither Trump nor the media care about the truth, what they care about is regime change, which is the driving force behind Washington’s six year-long war on Syria. The fact that Washington has concealed its support by secretly arming-and-training Sunni militias, does not absolve it from responsibility. The US is totally responsible for the mess in Syria. Without Washington’s support none of this would have happened. 7 million Syrians wouldn’t have fled their homes, 400,000 Syrians wouldn’t have been killed, and the country would not be the anarchic wastelands it is today. The United States is entirely is responsible for the death and destruction of Syria. These are Washington’s killing fields.

As we said earlier, there is no evidence that Assad used chemical weapons against his people nor has there been any investigation to substantiate the claims. The Trump administration launched its Tomahawk missile barrage before consulting with the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons which essentially preempted the organization from doing its job. The administration’s rejection of the normal investigative procedures and rush to judgement reinforces the belief that they know they have no case and are just peddling pro-war BS in the mad pursuit of their geopolitical objectives.

Since we don’t have an organization like the OPCW to conduct an investigation, we should at least consider the informed opinions of professionals who have some background in intelligence. This doesn’t provide us with iron-clad proof one way or another, but at least it gives us an idea of some probable scenarios. Here’s a quote from former CIA officer and Director of the Council for the National Interest, Philip Giraldi, who stated last week on the Scott Horton show:

“I am hearing from sources on the ground, in the Middle East, the people who are intimately familiar with the intelligence available are saying that the essential narrative we are all hearing about the Syrian government or the Russians using chemical weapons on innocent civilians is a sham. The intelligence confirms pretty much the account the Russians have been giving since last night which is that they hit a warehouse where al Qaida rebels were storing chemicals of their own and it basically caused an explosion that resulted in the casualties. Apparently the intelligence on this is very clear, and people both in the Agency and in the military who are aware of the intelligence are freaking out about this because essentially Trump completely misrepresented what he should already have known — but maybe didn’t–and they’re afraid this is moving towards a situation that could easily turn into an armed conflict.” (The Impending Clash Between the U.S. and Russia, Counterpunch)

We hear a very similar account from retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who was former chief of Staff to General Colin Powell. Here’s what he said in a recent interview on the Real News Network:

“I personally think the provocation was a Tonkin Gulf incident….. Most of my sources are telling me, including members of the team that monitors global chemical weapons –including people in Syria, including people in the US Intelligence Community–that what most likely happened …was that they hit a warehouse that they had intended to hit…and this warehouse was alleged to have to ISIS supplies in it, and… some of those supplies were precursors for chemicals….. conventional bombs hit the warehouse, and due to a strong wind, and the explosive power of the bombs, they dispersed these ingredients and killed some people.” (“Lawrence Wilkerson: Trump Attack on Syria Driven by Domestic Politics“, Real News Network)

Finally, we have the collective judgement of 20 former members of the US Intelligence Community (names below) the so-called Steering Group of the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. Here’s what they say:

“Our U.S. Army contacts in the area have told us this is not what happened. There was no Syrian “chemical weapons attack.” Instead, a Syrian aircraft bombed an al-Qaeda-in-Syria ammunition depot that turned out to be full of noxious chemicals and a strong wind blew the chemical-laden cloud over a nearby village where many consequently died…..This is what the Russians and Syrians have been saying and – more important –what they appear to believe happened.”

So, why is the administration so eager to jump to conclusions? Why do they want to use such a sketchy incident to justify an attack on sovereign nation that poses no threat to US national security? What’s really going on here?

ORDER IT NOW

To answer tha, we need to review an interview with President Trump’s new National Security Advisor, Lt. General H.R. McMaster, that took on place on Sunday on Fox News. McMaster– you may recall– recently replaced General Michael Flynn at the same position. Flynn’s failing was that he wanted to “normalize” relations with Russia which the behind-the-scenes powerbrokers rejected out-of-hand and worked to have him replaced with far-right wing militarist-neocon McMaster. Now, McMaster is part of the one-two combo that decides US foreign policy around the world. Trump has essentially dumped Syria in the laps of his two favorite generals, McMaster and James “Mad Dog” Mattis who have decided to deepen Washington’s military commitment in Syria and intensify the conflict even if it means a direct confrontation with Russia.

In the Fox interview, McMaster was asked a number of questions about Trump’s missile attack. Here’s part of what he said:

“The objective (of the strikes) was to send a very strong political message to Assad. And this is very significant because…. this is the first time the United States has acted directly against the Assad regime, and that should be a strong message to Assad and to his sponsors….

He added,

“Russia should ask themselves, what are we doing here? Why are we supporting this murderous regime that is committing mass murder of its own population and using the most heinous weapons available….Right now, I think everyone in the world sees Russia as part of the problem.” (Fox News with Chris Wallace)

Can you see what’s going on? Trump’s missile attack was not retaliatory, not really. It was a message to Putin. McMaster was saying as clearly as possible, that ‘the US military is coming for Assad, and you’d better stay out of the way if you know what’s good for you.’ That’s the message. It has nothing to do with chemical weapons or the suffering of innocent people. McMaster was delivering a threat. He was putting Putin ‘on notice’.

Like McMaster said, “this is the first time the United States has acted directly against the Assad regime, and that should be a strong message to Assad and to his sponsors….”

In other words, McMaster wants Putin to know that he’s prepared to attack the Syrian government and its assets directly and, that, if Putin continues to defend Assad, Russian forces will be targeted as well.

There was some confusion about this in the media because UN ambassador Nikki Haley and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson got their talking-points mixed up and botched their interviews. But the Washington Post clarified the policy the next day by stating bluntly:

“Officials in the Trump administration on Sunday demanded that Russia stop supporting the Syrian government or face a further deterioration in its relations with the United States.”

Bingo. That’s the policy in a nutshell. The issue isn’t chemical weapons. The issue is Russia’s support for Assad, the leader who remains the target of US regime change plans. We are seeing a fundamental shift in the policy from mainly covert support for CIA-backed Sunni militias to overt military intervention. This is just the first volley in that new war.

The media wants the American people to believe that President Trump impulsively ordered the missile attacks in response to the use of chemical weapons. But there’s reason to suspect that the attacks had been planned for some time in advance. As one blogger pointed out:

“In the weeks before the missile strikes, Trump met with the Saudis, the president of Egypt, and the King of Jordan, while Secretary of State met with Turkish President Erdogan. In other words, the administration met with the entire Middle East ‘Sunni alliance’ just days before ordering the missile strikes. Coincidence?

Probably not. They were probably tipped off and asked for their continued support.

Also, Trump waited until the evening that he was having dinner with President Xi Jinping to launch the attacks. How’s that for timing?

Do you think that the announcement that Trump just attacked Syria would have an impact on the two leaders’ conversation about North Korea? Do you think Xi might have seen the announcement as a not-so-subtle threat of violence against the North unless China forces its ally to make concessions?

Of course, he did. The man wasn’t born yesterday.

It seems unlikely that Trump’s attack was a snap decision made by an impulsive man. Instead, it looks like there was a significant amount of planning that went on beforehand, including the deploying of 400 additional Special Ops to Syria and 2,500 combat troops to nearby Kuwait. It appears as though Washington had been building up its troop-strength for some time before it settled on the right pretext for taking things to the next level. As journalist Bill Van Auken noted at the World Socialist Web Site:

“We have been here so many times before that it is hardly worth wasting the time required to refute the official story. It is now 14 years since the US launched its invasion of Iraq over similar lies about weapons of mass destruction, setting into motion a vast slaughter that has claimed the lives of over one million people and turned millions more into refugees……..

Once again, as in the air war against Serbia in 1999, the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 and Iraq in 2003, and the attack on Libya in 2011, the United States has concocted a pretext to justify the violation of another country’s sovereignty…” (“The Bombing of Syria, Bill Van Auken, World Socialist Web Site)

I have no way of knowing whether Assad used chemical weapons or not, but I found Russian President Vladimir Putin’s analysis particularly interesting. Reporters asked Putin — “What is your view about the use of chemical weapons in Syria?”

Putin answered-:

“You all know that the Syrian government has repeatedly asked the international community to come and inspect the sites where the rebels used chemical weapons. But they always ignored those requests. The only time the international community has responded, was to this last incident. So, what do I think?

I think we can figure out what’s going on by just using a little common sense. The Syrian army was winning the war, in some places they had the rebels completely surrounded. For them to throw it all away and give their trump card to the people who have been calling for regime change is, frankly, a crock of shit.”. (Russian President Vladimir Putin.)

Putin’s response to Trump’s missile attack has been subdued to say the least. He did issue a perfunctory presidential press statement on the incident, but the tone of the statement was neither incendiary or belligerent. If anything, it sounded like he found the whole matter irritating, like the man who sits down to a picnic lunch and finds he has to deal with pesky mosquito before he can eat. But, of course, this is the way that Putin handles most matters. He’s a master of understatement who is not easily given to emotional outbursts or displays of rage. He’s more apt to scratch himself, roll his eyes and give a shrug of the shoulders, than wave his fist and issue threats.

But from a strategic point of view, Putin’s measured response makes perfect sense, after all, the real battle isn’t going to be won or lost in Syria. It’s much bigger than that. Putin is challenging the present world order in which a disproportionate amount of political and economic power has accrued to one unipolar center of authority, a global hegemon that imposes its economic model wherever it goes and topples sovereign states with a wave of the hand. Putin’s task is to build resistance among the vassals, form new alliances, and strengthen the collective resolve for a different world where national sovereignty and borders are guaranteed under an impartial set of international laws that protect the weak as well as the strong.

That’s Putin’s real objective, to rebuild the system of global security based on a solid foundation of respect for the vital interests of each and every country. To accomplish that, Putin must seem like a reasonable and trustworthy ally who honors his commitments and stands by his friends even when they are under attack. That’s why Putin won’t abandon Assad. It’s because he can’t.

Syria is the battlefield where competing visions of the future meet head on. It’s where the rubber meets the road.

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at fergiewhitney@msn.com.

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Can you see what’s going on? Trump’s missile attack was not retaliatory, not really. It was a message to Putin. McMaster was saying as clearly as possible, that ‘the US military is coming for Assad, and you’d better stay out of the way if you know what’s good for you.’ That’s the message.

    It’s not only that. He adds that everyone else in the world sees it that way.
    That’s an essential element to bully speak, and it’s never missing from it.

    They love to receive validation from their serfs (you could consider this the “alpha’s dessert”, from a certain anthropological perspective, to be tasted after every meal).

    After the missile barrage, European “leaders” all took part in a bowing down competition. The good general’s expectations about them didn’t go unrealized.

    The choir of serfs may be seem a scenic element, nevertheless it is essential scenery.

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  2. Trump attacked Syria because he wants to rule the world by force of arms. He pretended to prefer peace to war in order to get elected. He is not Hitler. He is Dubya and Kushner is his Cheney.

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  3. Sean says:

    You have to be cruel to be kind. Assad can justify what he is doing that way, and so can Trump. He has as much right to bomb a military base built by Russia in Syria as the Syrians have to bomb Syrian cities.

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries. Bleats about international law are like a cages monkey’s chattering, which is only because it cannot do anything more effective.

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    • Replies: @WorkingClass

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries.
     
    Yup. That's what I want.
    , @Eustace Tilley (not)
    How he yearns for Imperial Dawn,
    Our doubleplusgood-speaking Sean!
    He bleats and he chatters
    Of "kindly" cruel matters
    While playing the Government pawn.
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  4. nsa says:

    Under 2% of the population…..over 50% of the Trump cabinet.

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    • Replies: @Ram
    The Anglos lack the "genetic" qualification to "serve" the US.
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  5. @Sean
    You have to be cruel to be kind. Assad can justify what he is doing that way, and so can Trump. He has as much right to bomb a military base built by Russia in Syria as the Syrians have to bomb Syrian cities.

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries. Bleats about international law are like a cages monkey's chattering, which is only because it cannot do anything more effective.

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries.

    Yup. That’s what I want.

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    • Replies: @bluedog
    Well lets face it congress and the lol peoples house are nothing more than well run whorehouses so yes that would be preferable for no more trillion dollar defense budgets..
    , @Diversity Heretic
    In one of his last books, Around the Cragged Hill, George Kennan advocated the dissolution of the United States in its present form for precisely this reason. You're in good company.
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  6. bluedog says:
    @WorkingClass

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries.
     
    Yup. That's what I want.

    Well lets face it congress and the lol peoples house are nothing more than well run whorehouses so yes that would be preferable for no more trillion dollar defense budgets..

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  7. @Sean
    You have to be cruel to be kind. Assad can justify what he is doing that way, and so can Trump. He has as much right to bomb a military base built by Russia in Syria as the Syrians have to bomb Syrian cities.

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries. Bleats about international law are like a cages monkey's chattering, which is only because it cannot do anything more effective.

    How he yearns for Imperial Dawn,
    Our doubleplusgood-speaking Sean!
    He bleats and he chatters
    Of “kindly” cruel matters
    While playing the Government pawn.

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    You are much too high minded for this world of filth and worms and lies. But never mind--


    Evil wings in ether beating;
    Vultures at the spirit eating;

    Things unseen forever fleeting
    Black against the leering sky.
    Ghastly shades of bygone gladness,
    Clawing fiends of future sadness,
    Mingle in a cloud of madness
    Ever on the soul to lie.

    Thus the living, lone and sobbing,
    In the throes of anguish throbbing,
    With the loathsome Furies robbing
    Night and noon of peace and rest.
    But beyond the groans and grating
    Of abhorrent Life, is waiting
    Sweet Oblivion, culminating
    All the years of fruitless quest.
     
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  8. This is a very good article.

    I’ll probably link to it.

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  9. I’d say, it’s more like “where the rubble meets the road.”

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    I’d say, it’s more like “where the rubble meets the road.”
     
    Or where the rabble bombed the road.
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  10. FKA Max says:

    You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that the case against Syrian President Bashar al Assad is extremely weak.

    Maybe you do have to be one…

    …Ann Coulter, whom I believe to be a female genius…

    http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1833752

    ANN COULTER FULL ONE-ON-ONE EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW WITH TUCKER CARLSON (4/12/2017)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45c408-s58A

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    It would be so nice if Ann Coulter stopped tossing her hair around and bobbing her head generally, and Smiling all the time....of course, girlie behavior can be forgiven since she is a girl, but...

    arguably she could be more effective if the skin factor was reduced...not necessarily eliminated...and she was better prepared with a few facts, numbers, etc. Carlson is great given the need to keep his job, not for his money, but for Fox viewers who are subject to Hannity and O'Reilly emotionalism. The other guy, is not as bad, but he too starts to dance a bit...Lou Dobbs.

    Thank god for Tucker, his brilliance, his limits-pushing, his skepticism right now about Syria Story per the Usuals. Evidence! he keeps on saying....Yup.

    Joe Webb
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    Kinzer says ‘left’ and ‘right’ are breaking down in foreign policy.

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  13. @WorkingClass

    If you want a world whereby the US lives in perpetual peace you want a world in which the US is too weak to invade other countries.
     
    Yup. That's what I want.

    In one of his last books, Around the Cragged Hill, George Kennan advocated the dissolution of the United States in its present form for precisely this reason. You’re in good company.

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  14. Ram says:
    @nsa
    Under 2% of the population.....over 50% of the Trump cabinet.

    The Anglos lack the “genetic” qualification to “serve” the US.

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  15. El Dato says:

    Probably not. [Sunni/Wahabbi/Army of Conquest actors] were probably tipped off and asked for their continued support.

    In which case the “accidental release of warehoused chemicals” makes only sense if it was a “lucky strike”. Seeing how this went down, so totally perfectly, I would say “fully engineered ‘incident’ with actors on the ground” is the likely explanation. See also http://www.unz.com/author/theodore-a-postol/ of course.

    It’s just a matter of degree but the US went from not-too-deadly-to-civilians false flags (some 60′s CIA “communist bombings” in South Vietnam notwithstanding) to do-not-care-about-civilians false flags, and I would say that happened under Obama.

    In the long run. these people are all dead of course, but it’s still a hardening of the veins.

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    EXACTLY. From Postol:

    "This mechanism of dispersal is essentially the same as hitting a toothpaste tube with a large mallet, which then results in the tube failing and the toothpaste being blown in many directions depending on the exact way the toothpaste skin ruptures.

    If this is in fact the mechanism used to disperse the sarin, this indicates that the sarin tube was placed on the ground by individuals on the ground and not dropped from an airplane."
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  16. Karl says:

    > The US is totally responsible for the mess in Syria

    darn, those jolly peaceful people in Syria got pushed off-course of a history of thousands of years without a single internal conflict…. by the Americans. Everything by the Americans.

    > waited until the evening that he was having dinner with President Xi Jinping to launch the attacks. How’s that for timing?

    whatever it takes to make sure that Arabella gets good reviews in the Beijing papers

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    darn, those jolly peaceful people in Syria got pushed off-course of a history of thousands of years without a single internal conflict…. by the Americans. Everything by the Americans.
     
    Your claim is that the war would have happened even without the US and its allies starting it? What's the evidence for this claim?
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  17. KenH says:

    I saw a red flag when Trump & the Pentagon inserted troops into Syria without asking for permission from Bashar Al Assad. It seemed to me that the regime change writing was on the wall and it was only a matter of time before they found the right pretext or created a false flag (or fell for one staged by the “rebels”). And lo and behold they found one straight out of a Hollywood movie script where a real life Dr. Evil type dictator “gasses” innocent women and children.

    Then it was the usual faux outrage by the president, his cabinet members, Congress and the fake, lapdog media while repeating unfounded allegations 24/7 as established truths.

    “In the weeks before the missile strikes, Trump met with the Saudis, the president of Egypt, and the King of Jordan, while Secretary of State met with Turkish President Erdogan.

    Those are all the wrong people to consult with since they are Sunni and Assad is a member of the Alawite sect of Shia Islam. Of course they’d like to see Assad deposed and a pliant Sunni stooge in his stead.

    As for Israel, they prefer the bad guys not backed by Iran which would be ISIS and other Wahabi cutthroats and who we now seem to be supporting given Trump’s radical shift on Syria.

    http://www.jpost.com/Syria-Crisis/Oren-Jerusalem-has-wanted-Assad-ousted-since-the-outbreak-of-the-Syrian-civil-war-326328

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  18. Miro23 says:

    Really a very good article putting beyond doubt that Syria is being set up for “Regime Change” and the Russians are being warned to keep out.

    ….. To accomplish that, Putin must seem like a reasonable and trustworthy ally who honors his commitments and stands by his friends even when they are under attack. That’s why Putin won’t abandon Assad. It’s because he can’t.

    Well, maybe he could, rather than risk was WWIII. And at least the US public would know for sure that their “No More ME Wars” candidate had defected to the Neo-cons, with the American Establishment being the War Party rather than the Russians.

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    No Putin can't throw away Syria for if he does then the rest of the world would judge him the same as they judge us "everyone knows the word of America is no good" and neither Putin or the Russia people would go for that...
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  19. My scenario is a little different. I cannot believe that Donald Trump who has demonstrated such spot on political instincts has suddenly lost his touch. Consider: Premier Xi comes to visit. Deals are done. Russia and Syria are notified during lunch the number of missiles and their intended destination. This is all a show for Xi and Putin. After lunch the missiles go off and about half reach the target.

    Main runway undamaged, Syrian planes resume flights next day. Mission accomplished! Target practice for the Russians. Now we know and they know how many missiles they can scratch in a cluster.
    War hawks salivate. Everybody else has the vapors. Xi goes to Alaska for the next big thing. Train service from the old world to the new.

    http://robertmagill.wordpress.com

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  20. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The world must attack the criminal China by serving the interest of the imperialism/Zionism and the Trump regime for few petty bones.

    China abstained from the UN vote on Syria, where Trump regime bombed Syrian people and frame Assad for the chemical attack where CIA trained terrorists in Syria staged.

    {President Donald Trump has praised China for its decision to abstain from voting on a UN Security Council resolution condemning last week’s chemical attack on civilians in Syria, terming it an honour for the US.}

    China is a criminal state a petty colony. Its leaders are cowards and cannot be trusted. They are traitors to humanity. Everyone and every country must BOYCOTT anything Chinese.
    You don’t want to help petty people.

    Long live Russia for time being. China and Russia SOLD Libya and open the road for the criminal West into Syria. China bears very big responsibility for the survival of evil for
    petty concessions.
    Down with China, Down with its petty ‘leaders’ with mafia hear style. Shame on China.

    Please boycott all goods made in China. Petty Chinese have close relation with Zionist entity because Chinese are enemies of Muslims as well. Down with China.

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  21. @Fran Macadam
    I'd say, it's more like "where the rubble meets the road."

    I’d say, it’s more like “where the rubble meets the road.”

    Or where the rabble bombed the road.

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  22. Bill says:
    @Karl
    > The US is totally responsible for the mess in Syria

    darn, those jolly peaceful people in Syria got pushed off-course of a history of thousands of years without a single internal conflict.... by the Americans. Everything by the Americans.

    > waited until the evening that he was having dinner with President Xi Jinping to launch the attacks. How’s that for timing?


    whatever it takes to make sure that Arabella gets good reviews in the Beijing papers

    darn, those jolly peaceful people in Syria got pushed off-course of a history of thousands of years without a single internal conflict…. by the Americans. Everything by the Americans.

    Your claim is that the war would have happened even without the US and its allies starting it? What’s the evidence for this claim?

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  23. bluedog says:
    @Miro23
    Really a very good article putting beyond doubt that Syria is being set up for "Regime Change" and the Russians are being warned to keep out.

    ..... To accomplish that, Putin must seem like a reasonable and trustworthy ally who honors his commitments and stands by his friends even when they are under attack. That’s why Putin won’t abandon Assad. It’s because he can’t.
     
    Well, maybe he could, rather than risk was WWIII. And at least the US public would know for sure that their "No More ME Wars" candidate had defected to the Neo-cons, with the American Establishment being the War Party rather than the Russians.

    No Putin can’t throw away Syria for if he does then the rest of the world would judge him the same as they judge us “everyone knows the word of America is no good” and neither Putin or the Russia people would go for that…

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  24. Agent76 says:

    Sep 3, 2013 The Syrian War What You’re Not Being Told

    What’s really going on in Syria? Let’s look at the evidence.

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    What's the message?

    I pretty much avoid vids because I can read much faster.
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  25. Tom Welsh says:

    If the Americans intend to attack Syria, and attack the Russians if they defend Syria, the Americans are going to get a bloody nose (and perhaps a broken jaw).

    What really annoys me is that the fatuous stuffed shirts in Washington get off scot-free every time their ludicrous adventures go haywire.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if Congress could pass a law requiring that, whenever an American military aggression fails, all those responsible must commit seppuku in the traditional Japanese way?

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    It would be better if most of the world knew this instead. *All Wars Are Bankers' Wars*

    I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations, so let me share a few examples, so that you understand why the US Government is mired in so many wars against so many foreign nations. There is ample precedent for this.

    https://youtu.be/5hfEBupAeo4

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  26. Agent76 says:
    @Tom Welsh
    If the Americans intend to attack Syria, and attack the Russians if they defend Syria, the Americans are going to get a bloody nose (and perhaps a broken jaw).

    What really annoys me is that the fatuous stuffed shirts in Washington get off scot-free every time their ludicrous adventures go haywire.

    Wouldn't it be nice if Congress could pass a law requiring that, whenever an American military aggression fails, all those responsible must commit seppuku in the traditional Japanese way?

    It would be better if most of the world knew this instead. *All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars*

    I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations, so let me share a few examples, so that you understand why the US Government is mired in so many wars against so many foreign nations. There is ample precedent for this.

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  27. bjondo says:

    Can you see what’s going on? Trump’s missile attack was not retaliatory, not really. It was a message to Putin. McMaster was saying as clearly as possible, that ‘the US military is coming for Assad, and you’d better stay out of the way if you know what’s good for you.’ That’s the message. It has nothing to do with chemical weapons or the suffering of innocent people. McMaster was delivering a threat. He was putting Putin ‘on notice’.

    BS

    US will not touch President Assad.

    And US not putting President Putin on notice.

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    First on CNN: US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan
     
    Yes, I would LOVE it if the largest non-nuclear bomb was dropped first on CNN. As long as everybody were in the building at that time.
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  29. El Dato says:
    @Rurik
    at least it wasn't in Damascus

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/afghanistan-isis-moab-bomb/index.html

    First on CNN: US drops largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

    Yes, I would LOVE it if the largest non-nuclear bomb was dropped first on CNN. As long as everybody were in the building at that time.

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  30. Sean says:
    @Eustace Tilley (not)
    How he yearns for Imperial Dawn,
    Our doubleplusgood-speaking Sean!
    He bleats and he chatters
    Of "kindly" cruel matters
    While playing the Government pawn.

    You are much too high minded for this world of filth and worms and lies. But never mind–

    [MORE]

    Evil wings in ether beating;
    Vultures at the spirit eating;

    Things unseen forever fleeting
    Black against the leering sky.
    Ghastly shades of bygone gladness,
    Clawing fiends of future sadness,
    Mingle in a cloud of madness
    Ever on the soul to lie.

    Thus the living, lone and sobbing,
    In the throes of anguish throbbing,
    With the loathsome Furies robbing
    Night and noon of peace and rest.
    But beyond the groans and grating
    Of abhorrent Life, is waiting
    Sweet Oblivion, culminating
    All the years of fruitless quest.

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  31. RobinG says:
    @El Dato

    Probably not. [Sunni/Wahabbi/Army of Conquest actors] were probably tipped off and asked for their continued support.
     
    In which case the "accidental release of warehoused chemicals" makes only sense if it was a "lucky strike". Seeing how this went down, so totally perfectly, I would say "fully engineered 'incident' with actors on the ground" is the likely explanation. See also http://www.unz.com/author/theodore-a-postol/ of course.

    It's just a matter of degree but the US went from not-too-deadly-to-civilians false flags (some 60's CIA "communist bombings" in South Vietnam notwithstanding) to do-not-care-about-civilians false flags, and I would say that happened under Obama.

    In the long run. these people are all dead of course, but it's still a hardening of the veins.

    EXACTLY. From Postol:

    “This mechanism of dispersal is essentially the same as hitting a toothpaste tube with a large mallet, which then results in the tube failing and the toothpaste being blown in many directions depending on the exact way the toothpaste skin ruptures.

    If this is in fact the mechanism used to disperse the sarin, this indicates that the sarin tube was placed on the ground by individuals on the ground and not dropped from an airplane.”

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    Publishing Postol's article may serves a disinfo purpose that people will start endless discussion how sarin was dispersed and start arguing about wind direction and humidity on that day. The picture of the alleged shell on which Postol's bases his whole analysis has no credibility whatsoever. Is he that naive and stupid not too think about it or is he a tool of those who do not want us think of other alternatives?

    Shouldn't we ask ourselves what the head choppers and their sponsors (CIA, MOSSAD, Saudi Arabia, Qatar) are really capable of? Can they kill some civilians they rounded up somewhere by gas or whatever? Sure they can? Do they have priors? Sure they have. Are they media savvy and know how to create the event and report it? Sure they do.

    Her is an example of some very media savvy operators in Iraq:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRZyHUr9YWM

    Have they done it before (see bad acting 2:37 min)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p54hHhlLjRk
    , @Ivy
    The drone delivery theory sounds intriguing. There may be a screenplay in that.
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  32. utu says:
    @RobinG
    EXACTLY. From Postol:

    "This mechanism of dispersal is essentially the same as hitting a toothpaste tube with a large mallet, which then results in the tube failing and the toothpaste being blown in many directions depending on the exact way the toothpaste skin ruptures.

    If this is in fact the mechanism used to disperse the sarin, this indicates that the sarin tube was placed on the ground by individuals on the ground and not dropped from an airplane."

    Publishing Postol’s article may serves a disinfo purpose that people will start endless discussion how sarin was dispersed and start arguing about wind direction and humidity on that day. The picture of the alleged shell on which Postol’s bases his whole analysis has no credibility whatsoever. Is he that naive and stupid not too think about it or is he a tool of those who do not want us think of other alternatives?

    Shouldn’t we ask ourselves what the head choppers and their sponsors (CIA, MOSSAD, Saudi Arabia, Qatar) are really capable of? Can they kill some civilians they rounded up somewhere by gas or whatever? Sure they can? Do they have priors? Sure they have. Are they media savvy and know how to create the event and report it? Sure they do.

    Her is an example of some very media savvy operators in Iraq:

    Have they done it before (see bad acting 2:37 min)

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  33. Syria is the battlefield where competing visions of the future meet head on. It’s where the rubber meets the road.

    actually syria is now the battlefield where the american neocon vision of the future is dying for all to see irrespective what trump wants or doesn’t want.

    the war there is, strategically speaking, over, all that remains are the tactical battles needed to finish off whatever the rebels calls themselves this week.

    washington/israels neocon vision of the middle east is finished.

    the russians do not want a war with the usa but i wager they are preparing for one at all levels as i write this. washington likes to fight but mostly against those who can not fight back and is wholly unprepared to battle a russian enemy every bit as technically advanced as the us military.

    the ‘real’ us military knows fighting russia is suicide and a fools errand and is surely counseling trump on this fact. if he doesn’t listen he potentially ends most life on earth or if he stops short of that the us military suffers a humiliating defeat for all the world to see.

    his presidency ends forthwith and the integrity of the nation is at risk.

    i will wager the syrian showdown between dc and russia goes no further.

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    God I hope you're right.
    , @alexander
    Some really good points here, paraglider.

    I believe a nations army will always fight hardest to defend itself against an aggressive invasion... An entire nation (every man ,woman and child) will rally to the call when an existential threat is upon them...

    They will make every sacrifice to survive.....

    When its balls to the walls...do or die....Ordinary people have shown a mountain of courage where none would expect it.


    When an aggressor army enter the fray, under false or dubious claims, no matter how well disciplined its soldiers are, the integrity of rationale, or lack there of, impinges on the hearts and minds of its warriors.

    How can it not ?

    We are human beings, after all ?

    Cannot any of us imagine how potent and deadly a warrior Pat Tillman might have been, defending OUR country..from an attacking invader ?

    One deadly , vicious , Motherf#cker...I can tell you that now....God rest his soul.

    There is nothing WORSE for a nation than to engage in aggressive war under false or bogus pretenses..

    Nothing WORSE !

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn't REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win.....

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly....there is NO victory in winning...when the very reason they are laying down their lives ...... is a LIE.
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  34. @paraglider
    Syria is the battlefield where competing visions of the future meet head on. It’s where the rubber meets the road.

    actually syria is now the battlefield where the american neocon vision of the future is dying for all to see irrespective what trump wants or doesn't want.

    the war there is, strategically speaking, over, all that remains are the tactical battles needed to finish off whatever the rebels calls themselves this week.

    washington/israels neocon vision of the middle east is finished.

    the russians do not want a war with the usa but i wager they are preparing for one at all levels as i write this. washington likes to fight but mostly against those who can not fight back and is wholly unprepared to battle a russian enemy every bit as technically advanced as the us military.

    the 'real' us military knows fighting russia is suicide and a fools errand and is surely counseling trump on this fact. if he doesn't listen he potentially ends most life on earth or if he stops short of that the us military suffers a humiliating defeat for all the world to see.

    his presidency ends forthwith and the integrity of the nation is at risk.

    i will wager the syrian showdown between dc and russia goes no further.

    God I hope you’re right.

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  35. Anon-og [AKA "Mike Johnson"] says:

    So funny, as Israeli ass licking as Bannon was, it wasn’t even an afterthought to have this nuisance removed from Trump’s inner circle by Kushner. I feel bad for those of you Americans who thought that your Savior was gonna really pursue some sort of populist agenda once he was elected to the White House. I know the Breitbart types figured that achieving something akin to what Israel has achieved for Jews could happen here for white Americans but the reality is that the Jews who run your country end up not respecting you for letting them do it, and hoping that they might let you have a seat at what should be your table is pathetic lol, these people are your enemies .

    “Also, of interest was the ouster of controversial Trump strategist Steve Bannon from the National Security Council (NSC), taking place only days before the administration’s dramatic reversal on Syria. Incidentally, Bannon’s fall from grace – which has only accelerated in the week since his removal from the NSC – was due to his in-fighting with Kushner, proving that Kushner’s influence in his father-in-law’s administration is much more powerful than previously thought. While it remains unknown exactly why Kushner and Bannon were fighting, the drastic policy change in “national security” days later seems to speak volumes.
    While Bannon is hardly anti-war or anti-Israel, it seems that Kushner’s commitment to radical Zionism and neo-conservative ideas put him at odds with Bannon – who considers himself a “populist” and is a long-time conservative, unlike Kushner. Indeed, Kushner – until 2012 – was a key supporter of Democrats, much like his father, the notoriously corrupt Charles Kushner, and donated thousands to Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Charles Schumer.
     
    Israel First

    White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, takes his seat to watch Vice President Mike Pence administer the oath of office to U.S. Ambassador to Israel David M. Friedman, March 29, 2017. (AP/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
    However, Kushner had no problem changing parties as his political leanings have been shown to only change in regard to one issue – Israel. In 2012, it was Kushner’s stalwart support for Israel, particularly Israel’s far-right, that ultimately led him to reject the Democrat Party and support Mitt Romney’s candidacy. “Rather than strengthen the nation’s relationship with Israel as the Arab world imploded, Mr. Obama treated Jerusalem as less a friend than a burden,” said the Kushner-owned New York Observer’s endorsement, summing up Kushner’s view on the matter in language that Trump would later echo.
    Kushner’s unwavering support for Israel is obvious as any cursory examination of his background reveals. Kushner was raised in a wealthy Zionist family and met powerful Israeli politicians including now Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu in his teenage years. As an adult, Kushner has overseen the finances of his family’s “charitable” foundation which has donated thousands to illegal Israeli settlements as well as thousands more to the Israeli Defense Force (IDF).

    This Oct. 24, 2016 photo, shows part of the Israeli settlement of Beit El, near the West Bank city of Ramallah. Tax records show the family of U.S. president-elect Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has donated tens of thousands of dollars to Israeli settlement institutions in the West Bank in recent years. (AP/Nasser Nasser)
    Of particular interest among these donations was the $20,000 donation in 2013 to American Friends of Beit El Yeshiva, which supports one of the more extremist illegal settlements in the West Bank. The chairman of this organization, David Friedman, has been Trump’s real estate lawyer for the past 15 years and was selected by the Trump administration to serve as the U.S. ambassador to Israel. Friedman is noticeable for being against the two-state solution, a position that Kushner also shares according to journalist Robert Parry and others.
    With Kushner’s “Israel first” mentality clear and his commitment to Zionism obvious, it is hardly surprising that Kushner, and his wife Ivanka, would push for a different approach to Syria than that promised by Trump during the 2016 election.”

    https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-prodigal-son-in-law-jared-kushner-and-the-rise-of-the-neo-cons-in-the-trump-admin/226794/

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  36. alexander says:
    @paraglider
    Syria is the battlefield where competing visions of the future meet head on. It’s where the rubber meets the road.

    actually syria is now the battlefield where the american neocon vision of the future is dying for all to see irrespective what trump wants or doesn't want.

    the war there is, strategically speaking, over, all that remains are the tactical battles needed to finish off whatever the rebels calls themselves this week.

    washington/israels neocon vision of the middle east is finished.

    the russians do not want a war with the usa but i wager they are preparing for one at all levels as i write this. washington likes to fight but mostly against those who can not fight back and is wholly unprepared to battle a russian enemy every bit as technically advanced as the us military.

    the 'real' us military knows fighting russia is suicide and a fools errand and is surely counseling trump on this fact. if he doesn't listen he potentially ends most life on earth or if he stops short of that the us military suffers a humiliating defeat for all the world to see.

    his presidency ends forthwith and the integrity of the nation is at risk.

    i will wager the syrian showdown between dc and russia goes no further.

    Some really good points here, paraglider.

    I believe a nations army will always fight hardest to defend itself against an aggressive invasion… An entire nation (every man ,woman and child) will rally to the call when an existential threat is upon them…

    They will make every sacrifice to survive…..

    When its balls to the walls…do or die….Ordinary people have shown a mountain of courage where none would expect it.

    When an aggressor army enter the fray, under false or dubious claims, no matter how well disciplined its soldiers are, the integrity of rationale, or lack there of, impinges on the hearts and minds of its warriors.

    How can it not ?

    We are human beings, after all ?

    Cannot any of us imagine how potent and deadly a warrior Pat Tillman might have been, defending OUR country..from an attacking invader ?

    One deadly , vicious , Motherf#cker…I can tell you that now….God rest his soul.

    There is nothing WORSE for a nation than to engage in aggressive war under false or bogus pretenses..

    Nothing WORSE !

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn’t REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win…..

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly….there is NO victory in winning…when the very reason they are laying down their lives …… is a LIE.

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    you wrote:

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn’t REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win…..

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly….there is NO victory in winning…when the very reason they are laying down their lives …… is a LIE.

    ..........................

    imo this is the main reason for the incredible increase in PSTD and suicides in the us military the past 20 years..

    even though the us military is a volunteer force the great bulk of men and women serving are decent human beings with a conscience and clear idea of right and wrong. it is a meaningful % of these soldiers who are the most emotionally destroyed once they realize they are fighting for a lie, for a bullshit cause only useful to the elites of their nation and no one else.

    the ones most successful in dealing with the fraudulent nature of such a war policy they have been asked to fight are the relatively small number of military persons who are sociopaths of one variety or another. for them its a get out of jail free card to indulge in their most desired activities.

    and when they return to american society to become something other than mercs for hire by private companies they bring back a truly dangerous set of skills fully knowing the political system that sent them to war in the first place is as sociopathic as themselves.

    long term no nation can democratically and peacefully survive multi decades of foreign wars predicated on lies. it is already quite evident the foundations are badly cracking.
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  37. joe webb says:
    @FKA Max

    You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that the case against Syrian President Bashar al Assad is extremely weak.
     
    Maybe you do have to be one...

    ...Ann Coulter, whom I believe to be a female genius...
     
    - http://www.unz.com/jthompson/iq-does-not-exist-lead-poisoning-aside/#comment-1833752

    ANN COULTER FULL ONE-ON-ONE EXPLOSIVE INTERVIEW WITH TUCKER CARLSON (4/12/2017)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45c408-s58A

    It would be so nice if Ann Coulter stopped tossing her hair around and bobbing her head generally, and Smiling all the time….of course, girlie behavior can be forgiven since she is a girl, but…

    arguably she could be more effective if the skin factor was reduced…not necessarily eliminated…and she was better prepared with a few facts, numbers, etc. Carlson is great given the need to keep his job, not for his money, but for Fox viewers who are subject to Hannity and O’Reilly emotionalism. The other guy, is not as bad, but he too starts to dance a bit…Lou Dobbs.

    Thank god for Tucker, his brilliance, his limits-pushing, his skepticism right now about Syria Story per the Usuals. Evidence! he keeps on saying….Yup.

    Joe Webb

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  38. KenH says:

    Eric Bolling is filling in for the great O’Reilly and interviewing the wise Sebastian Gorka on the Syrian and N. Korea situation. Based on this and other interviews and coverage over the last week by the neocon smart set I’ve learned the following:

    1) Assad is evil, almost indescribably so, and he periodically uses chemical weapons against innocent people for pure sport. Don’t challenge this or you are condoning evil, stupid, a liberal pussy, or not a true patriot. Besides, our intelligence agencies are second to none and wouldn’t lie or mislead us and how dare you question the narrative.

    2) Assad and his allies are quaking in their boots. Iran and Russia better think long and hard about supporting Assad. We may use additional force. We may not. We like to keep people guessing and our options open. It’s all part of Trump’s unpredictability and brilliance.

    3) The use of WMD’s will not be tolerated by this administration unless we’re the ones using them since we are exceptional. If we use them then we have a right to and are killing really evil people who threaten innocent people, Israel and the change of seasons on earth.

    4) The Chinese premier thought the tomahawk missile strike before dessert was cool and scary at the same time. Xi Jinpeng was so impressed by Trump’s “resolve” and the dessert was so delectable that he will probably invade or nuke N. Korea for us. That’s the art of the deal!

    5) Our actions are legal and moral even though nobody can say where we derive the power to bomb nations we are not at war with or who don’t pose an imminent threat. Trump, Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Israel, CNN, FOX and Rush Limbaugh think we have this power and that’s all that matters. If you disagree then you are a traitor or phony patriot and should leave the exceptional American nation NOW (yes, you alt-right, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul).

    6) The only thing preventing John McCainiac’s permanent man crush on Trump is the latter’s unwillingness to commit 500,000 troops for a ground invasion. He should also consider invading Iran while we’re in the neighborhood since Assad’s evil is only matched by the mullahs. Of course, if Trump follows through with McCain’s wish then Lindsay Graham will fall in love, too and have a hard on for the ages.

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    Your dry humor may not be understood my most readers.
    , @Rurik
    Eric Bolling called Assad "the butcher of Damascus"

    can't get more 'Hitler of the month' than that
    , @El Dato
    Fukken printed!
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  39. Ivy says:
    @RobinG
    EXACTLY. From Postol:

    "This mechanism of dispersal is essentially the same as hitting a toothpaste tube with a large mallet, which then results in the tube failing and the toothpaste being blown in many directions depending on the exact way the toothpaste skin ruptures.

    If this is in fact the mechanism used to disperse the sarin, this indicates that the sarin tube was placed on the ground by individuals on the ground and not dropped from an airplane."

    The drone delivery theory sounds intriguing. There may be a screenplay in that.

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  40. krollchem says:
    @KenH
    Eric Bolling is filling in for the great O'Reilly and interviewing the wise Sebastian Gorka on the Syrian and N. Korea situation. Based on this and other interviews and coverage over the last week by the neocon smart set I've learned the following:

    1) Assad is evil, almost indescribably so, and he periodically uses chemical weapons against innocent people for pure sport. Don't challenge this or you are condoning evil, stupid, a liberal pussy, or not a true patriot. Besides, our intelligence agencies are second to none and wouldn't lie or mislead us and how dare you question the narrative.

    2) Assad and his allies are quaking in their boots. Iran and Russia better think long and hard about supporting Assad. We may use additional force. We may not. We like to keep people guessing and our options open. It's all part of Trump's unpredictability and brilliance.

    3) The use of WMD's will not be tolerated by this administration unless we're the ones using them since we are exceptional. If we use them then we have a right to and are killing really evil people who threaten innocent people, Israel and the change of seasons on earth.

    4) The Chinese premier thought the tomahawk missile strike before dessert was cool and scary at the same time. Xi Jinpeng was so impressed by Trump's "resolve" and the dessert was so delectable that he will probably invade or nuke N. Korea for us. That's the art of the deal!

    5) Our actions are legal and moral even though nobody can say where we derive the power to bomb nations we are not at war with or who don't pose an imminent threat. Trump, Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Israel, CNN, FOX and Rush Limbaugh think we have this power and that's all that matters. If you disagree then you are a traitor or phony patriot and should leave the exceptional American nation NOW (yes, you alt-right, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul).

    6) The only thing preventing John McCainiac's permanent man crush on Trump is the latter's unwillingness to commit 500,000 troops for a ground invasion. He should also consider invading Iran while we're in the neighborhood since Assad's evil is only matched by the mullahs. Of course, if Trump follows through with McCain's wish then Lindsay Graham will fall in love, too and have a hard on for the ages.

    Your dry humor may not be understood my most readers.

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  41. Rurik says:
    @KenH
    Eric Bolling is filling in for the great O'Reilly and interviewing the wise Sebastian Gorka on the Syrian and N. Korea situation. Based on this and other interviews and coverage over the last week by the neocon smart set I've learned the following:

    1) Assad is evil, almost indescribably so, and he periodically uses chemical weapons against innocent people for pure sport. Don't challenge this or you are condoning evil, stupid, a liberal pussy, or not a true patriot. Besides, our intelligence agencies are second to none and wouldn't lie or mislead us and how dare you question the narrative.

    2) Assad and his allies are quaking in their boots. Iran and Russia better think long and hard about supporting Assad. We may use additional force. We may not. We like to keep people guessing and our options open. It's all part of Trump's unpredictability and brilliance.

    3) The use of WMD's will not be tolerated by this administration unless we're the ones using them since we are exceptional. If we use them then we have a right to and are killing really evil people who threaten innocent people, Israel and the change of seasons on earth.

    4) The Chinese premier thought the tomahawk missile strike before dessert was cool and scary at the same time. Xi Jinpeng was so impressed by Trump's "resolve" and the dessert was so delectable that he will probably invade or nuke N. Korea for us. That's the art of the deal!

    5) Our actions are legal and moral even though nobody can say where we derive the power to bomb nations we are not at war with or who don't pose an imminent threat. Trump, Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Israel, CNN, FOX and Rush Limbaugh think we have this power and that's all that matters. If you disagree then you are a traitor or phony patriot and should leave the exceptional American nation NOW (yes, you alt-right, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul).

    6) The only thing preventing John McCainiac's permanent man crush on Trump is the latter's unwillingness to commit 500,000 troops for a ground invasion. He should also consider invading Iran while we're in the neighborhood since Assad's evil is only matched by the mullahs. Of course, if Trump follows through with McCain's wish then Lindsay Graham will fall in love, too and have a hard on for the ages.

    Eric Bolling called Assad “the butcher of Damascus”

    can’t get more ‘Hitler of the month’ than that

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    Well, Assad Jr. used to run a halal meat shop when he was not busy learning the basics of totalitarian governance. It was rather famous throughout Damascus.
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  42. Agent76 says:

    April 14, 2017 The Trump/Syria conundrum Will Trump deliver Deep State’s world war?

    In appearance, Trump’s April 6, 2017, missile attack on Syria is the first step towards a regime change, a massive regional conquest, and World War 3. In appearance, the event marked a point of no return for Trump’s presidency.

    http://www.intrepidreport.com/archives/20880

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  43. El Dato says:
    @KenH
    Eric Bolling is filling in for the great O'Reilly and interviewing the wise Sebastian Gorka on the Syrian and N. Korea situation. Based on this and other interviews and coverage over the last week by the neocon smart set I've learned the following:

    1) Assad is evil, almost indescribably so, and he periodically uses chemical weapons against innocent people for pure sport. Don't challenge this or you are condoning evil, stupid, a liberal pussy, or not a true patriot. Besides, our intelligence agencies are second to none and wouldn't lie or mislead us and how dare you question the narrative.

    2) Assad and his allies are quaking in their boots. Iran and Russia better think long and hard about supporting Assad. We may use additional force. We may not. We like to keep people guessing and our options open. It's all part of Trump's unpredictability and brilliance.

    3) The use of WMD's will not be tolerated by this administration unless we're the ones using them since we are exceptional. If we use them then we have a right to and are killing really evil people who threaten innocent people, Israel and the change of seasons on earth.

    4) The Chinese premier thought the tomahawk missile strike before dessert was cool and scary at the same time. Xi Jinpeng was so impressed by Trump's "resolve" and the dessert was so delectable that he will probably invade or nuke N. Korea for us. That's the art of the deal!

    5) Our actions are legal and moral even though nobody can say where we derive the power to bomb nations we are not at war with or who don't pose an imminent threat. Trump, Tillerson, Nikki Haley, Israel, CNN, FOX and Rush Limbaugh think we have this power and that's all that matters. If you disagree then you are a traitor or phony patriot and should leave the exceptional American nation NOW (yes, you alt-right, Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul).

    6) The only thing preventing John McCainiac's permanent man crush on Trump is the latter's unwillingness to commit 500,000 troops for a ground invasion. He should also consider invading Iran while we're in the neighborhood since Assad's evil is only matched by the mullahs. Of course, if Trump follows through with McCain's wish then Lindsay Graham will fall in love, too and have a hard on for the ages.

    Fukken printed!

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  44. El Dato says:
    @Rurik
    Eric Bolling called Assad "the butcher of Damascus"

    can't get more 'Hitler of the month' than that

    Well, Assad Jr. used to run a halal meat shop when he was not busy learning the basics of totalitarian governance. It was rather famous throughout Damascus.

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    You are a moron.
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  45. MEexpert says:
    @El Dato
    Well, Assad Jr. used to run a halal meat shop when he was not busy learning the basics of totalitarian governance. It was rather famous throughout Damascus.

    You are a moron.

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  46. MEexpert says:

    Since the neocons are so interested in partitioning every other country, we should give them a partitioned country right here. We should break up the United States into several countries. California and Texas already want to secede. We should make New York as a separate country for the neocons and the MSM. They can run it to ground anyway they like.

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    There' s already plan for this at red-blue county level: https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-America-Dr-Michael-Hart/dp/1312875704/ref=cm_cr-mr-title
    , @bluedog
    Wait a second I live in N.Y. AND WE DON'T WANT THE BASTARDS HERE EITHER.
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  47. Miro23 says:
    @MEexpert
    Since the neocons are so interested in partitioning every other country, we should give them a partitioned country right here. We should break up the United States into several countries. California and Texas already want to secede. We should make New York as a separate country for the neocons and the MSM. They can run it to ground anyway they like.

    There’ s already plan for this at red-blue county level: https://www.amazon.com/Restoring-America-Dr-Michael-Hart/dp/1312875704/ref=cm_cr-mr-title

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  48. @Agent76
    Sep 3, 2013 The Syrian War What You're Not Being Told

    What's really going on in Syria? Let's look at the evidence.

    https://youtu.be/dkamZg68jpk

    What’s the message?

    I pretty much avoid vids because I can read much faster.

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  49. bluedog says:
    @MEexpert
    Since the neocons are so interested in partitioning every other country, we should give them a partitioned country right here. We should break up the United States into several countries. California and Texas already want to secede. We should make New York as a separate country for the neocons and the MSM. They can run it to ground anyway they like.

    Wait a second I live in N.Y. AND WE DON’T WANT THE BASTARDS HERE EITHER.

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    I feel sorry for you. You are going to have hard time getting rid of those cockroaches.
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  50. MEexpert says:
    @bluedog
    Wait a second I live in N.Y. AND WE DON'T WANT THE BASTARDS HERE EITHER.

    I feel sorry for you. You are going to have hard time getting rid of those cockroaches.

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    Yes indeed your right but seeing I live in Western N.Y. we are working on cutting them off at the Hudson God be with us...
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  51. Innozenz says:

    The strange thing about US-activities in Syria is that their effect is very often counterproductive. I will give you three examples:

    The Trump administration is now repeating the demands of the Obama administration that “Assad has to go”. Since 2011, whenever some politician in the West asked for Assad to step down, the Syrian state and private media presented such demands at the beginning of news bulletins, repeated reporting about them, commenting about and also making fun of them. The consequence has been, since the beginning of the war against Syria, that a growing large majority of Syrians feel obliged to support their President. Many Syrian intellectuals who in 2011 supported the opposition have changed their mind and now try to help the government to save the independence of the country. Syria is the Arab country with the strongest nationalism. By continuing to demand that Assad should leave, the US and its allies are loosing credibility (you cannot support democracy and at the same time declare that you in Washington D.C. want to decide who is to govern in Damascus) and is strengthening Assad’s position in Syria.

    But this is not the only issue showing that the western powers do not want to understand the consequences of their activities in the Middle East. One of the goals of the US and its allies in Syria was (and still is) to diminish the ability of Iran to influence the developments in Syria and especially to make it impossible for the Iranians to construct pipelines through Iraq to the Mediterranean sea. Mr. Whitneys article correctly states that the US and its allies armed, trained and supported Sunni militias in Syria fighting against the government. Since 2011, the US and its allies supported the huge wave of Sunni emigration from Syria. About 20 % of the Syrian prewar population has fled the country. Most of these refugees are Sunni Muslems. By supporting the emigration in order to be able to use the refugees as mercenaries against Syria, the US and its allies are weakening the Sunni majority in the country. Before the war, the Sunnis were the absolute majority of the population of Syria. This is not any longer the case. By helping to diminish the Sunni majority in Syria the US and its allies are actually helping Shiite Iran to strengthen its influence in Syria. A similar support was given by these same powers to Iran in Iraq when they eliminated Saddam Hussein and gave the power to Shiites.

    According to Syrian media, the US and its allies are now preparing an invasion of Syria by troops their local allies (Jordan, Israel and Turkey) have to provide. Such a war will again strengthen the Assad government, because most Arabs will feel an obligation to support the Syrian Government against US and Israeli aggression. Not only in Syria, but in the whole Arab world, Assad, the moment he is attacked by the US and Israel, will be considered the only valuable leader. One possible outcome of such an invasion could well be that the reign of the Hashemites in Jordan ends and that a radical Arab regime on the eastern shore of the Jordan river emerges. In Lebanon and in Iraq the support for the Syrian Government will certainly augment among Sunnis as well as Shiites. The realization of the US plans to create a “Sunnistan” in eastern Syria and western Iraq would became impossible.

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  52. bluedog says:
    @MEexpert
    I feel sorry for you. You are going to have hard time getting rid of those cockroaches.

    Yes indeed your right but seeing I live in Western N.Y. we are working on cutting them off at the Hudson God be with us…

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    You and Buffalo Joe can team up as one of the lines of defense.
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  53. @alexander
    Some really good points here, paraglider.

    I believe a nations army will always fight hardest to defend itself against an aggressive invasion... An entire nation (every man ,woman and child) will rally to the call when an existential threat is upon them...

    They will make every sacrifice to survive.....

    When its balls to the walls...do or die....Ordinary people have shown a mountain of courage where none would expect it.


    When an aggressor army enter the fray, under false or dubious claims, no matter how well disciplined its soldiers are, the integrity of rationale, or lack there of, impinges on the hearts and minds of its warriors.

    How can it not ?

    We are human beings, after all ?

    Cannot any of us imagine how potent and deadly a warrior Pat Tillman might have been, defending OUR country..from an attacking invader ?

    One deadly , vicious , Motherf#cker...I can tell you that now....God rest his soul.

    There is nothing WORSE for a nation than to engage in aggressive war under false or bogus pretenses..

    Nothing WORSE !

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn't REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win.....

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly....there is NO victory in winning...when the very reason they are laying down their lives ...... is a LIE.

    you wrote:

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn’t REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win…..

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly….there is NO victory in winning…when the very reason they are laying down their lives …… is a LIE.

    ……………………..

    imo this is the main reason for the incredible increase in PSTD and suicides in the us military the past 20 years..

    even though the us military is a volunteer force the great bulk of men and women serving are decent human beings with a conscience and clear idea of right and wrong. it is a meaningful % of these soldiers who are the most emotionally destroyed once they realize they are fighting for a lie, for a bullshit cause only useful to the elites of their nation and no one else.

    the ones most successful in dealing with the fraudulent nature of such a war policy they have been asked to fight are the relatively small number of military persons who are sociopaths of one variety or another. for them its a get out of jail free card to indulge in their most desired activities.

    and when they return to american society to become something other than mercs for hire by private companies they bring back a truly dangerous set of skills fully knowing the political system that sent them to war in the first place is as sociopathic as themselves.

    long term no nation can democratically and peacefully survive multi decades of foreign wars predicated on lies. it is already quite evident the foundations are badly cracking.

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    I agree wholeheartedly.
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  54. Ivy says:
    @bluedog
    Yes indeed your right but seeing I live in Western N.Y. we are working on cutting them off at the Hudson God be with us...

    You and Buffalo Joe can team up as one of the lines of defense.

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    Lol thank you I'll accept that..
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  55. bluedog says:
    @Ivy
    You and Buffalo Joe can team up as one of the lines of defense.

    Lol thank you I’ll accept that..

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  56. […] academic scholars and seasoned Intelligence professionals have widely derided the alleged Syrian government Sarin gas attack as an apparent false-flag hoax. […]

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  57. alexander says:
    @paraglider
    you wrote:

    It undermines the fighting spirit.. because deep down, every soldier doesn’t REALLY believe they have the RIGHT to win…..

    and they are right !

    They understand, somewhere deep in their belly….there is NO victory in winning…when the very reason they are laying down their lives …… is a LIE.

    ..........................

    imo this is the main reason for the incredible increase in PSTD and suicides in the us military the past 20 years..

    even though the us military is a volunteer force the great bulk of men and women serving are decent human beings with a conscience and clear idea of right and wrong. it is a meaningful % of these soldiers who are the most emotionally destroyed once they realize they are fighting for a lie, for a bullshit cause only useful to the elites of their nation and no one else.

    the ones most successful in dealing with the fraudulent nature of such a war policy they have been asked to fight are the relatively small number of military persons who are sociopaths of one variety or another. for them its a get out of jail free card to indulge in their most desired activities.

    and when they return to american society to become something other than mercs for hire by private companies they bring back a truly dangerous set of skills fully knowing the political system that sent them to war in the first place is as sociopathic as themselves.

    long term no nation can democratically and peacefully survive multi decades of foreign wars predicated on lies. it is already quite evident the foundations are badly cracking.

    I agree wholeheartedly.

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