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Fishing Expedition (def)– any inquiry carried on without any clearly defined plan or purpose in the hope of discovering useful information….dictionary.com

After more than a year of incriminating media coverage, less than half of Americans (49 percent) believe it’s “likely” that Donald Trump committed a crime connected to Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 election. That’s according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll that was released in December. And, while a mere 19 percent of the people surveyed think there’s “solid evidence” to support the allegations, 30 percent believe it’s “just a suspicion”. (Another 44 percent think it’s unlikely Trump committed a crime.)

If the media was hoping to persuade the American people that Trump is guilty of a crime, they have a long way to go.

Not surprisingly, attitudes about Trump’s alleged “collusion” break down along party lines. 82 percent of Republicans believe that Trump did NOT commit a crime, while 74 percent of Democrats think that he did.

The margin of difference seems to reflect the political bias’ of the interviewees. Simply put, people who don’t like Trump, are more likely to think he’s in bed with the Russians, while the people who like him, think it’s baloney.

But there is one matter upon which both Democrats and Republicans agree. Mueller. Take a look at this from nbcsandiego.com:

“…at this point few Americans have high confidence in either Mueller or Congress to fairly investigate the issue. Of the special counsel’s investigation, just 26 percent say they’re very or extremely confident that it will be fair and impartial, while an additional 31 percent are moderately confident.” (The AP-NORC poll surveyed 1,020 adults from Dec. 7-11 using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak panel)

Why? Why do people have so little confidence in a man who the media has lauded as a thoroughly-honorable elder statesman with an impeccable record? Do they doubt that Mueller is the Eagle Scout he’s made out to be or are they merely skeptical of an investigation that yet to produce any solid evidence of Trump’s alleged culpability?

Neither. The skepticism about Mueller probably has less to do with the man, than it does with Washington in general. Most people see the Capitol as a dysfunctional politically-charged environment where the prospects of a truly independent and impartial investigation are slim to none. In Washington, political infighting and gridlock are the norm not the exception. The data simply suggests that the people know what’s going on.

In the last few weeks, the Republicans have launched an aggressive campaign to defend Trump by trying to discredit the Mueller investigation. The editors at the Wall Street Journal spearheaded the charge with an article titled “Mueller Should Step Down”. The editorial highlights recent disturbing revelations about highly-partisan activist agents who had been working under Mueller (Peter Strzok) and who were clearly focused on inflicting maximum damage on Trump. Mueller removed Strzok nearly six months ago, but withheld the information from Congress which should have been notified about the matter. The WSJ sees this and other entanglements between Mueller and high-ranking officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI as suspicious enough to warrant his resignation.

Here’s an excerpt from the WSJ editorial: “The latest news supports our view that Mr. Mueller is too conflicted to investigate the FBI and should step down in favor of someone more credible. The investigation would surely continue, though perhaps with someone who doesn’t think his job includes protecting the FBI and Mr. Comey from answering questions about their role in the 2016 election.” (Wall Street Journal)

The WSJ’s charges are not without merit, as are the claims that Mueller has loaded his legal team with Hillary contributors (“a partisan pack of wolves”) or that both the DOJ and the FBI have been stonewalling congress for vital information they need to conduct a thorough investigation. But that doesn’t change the fact that the attacks on Mueller’s credibility are also part of an ambitious strategy to end the investigation and terminate the Special Counsel. This is from the World Socialist Web Site:

“Mueller’s investigation has been the target of furious attacks for the past week by right-wing media outlets, including the Wall Street Journal, Breitbart News and Fox News, with increasingly strident denunciations and demands for Mueller’s ouster. The tone was set by Jeannine Pirro, a former municipal judge who hosts a Fox News program. She demanded not merely the removal of Mueller, but the imprisonment of FBI officials for alleged political crimes against the president. “The only thing that remains is whether we have the fortitude to not just fire these people immediately, but to take them out in cuffs,” she said during a Saturday night broadcast….

The entire furor may have been instigated by the White House as part of an effort to put maximum pressure on Mueller to rein in his investigation and bring it to a conclusion….The private emails between the two high level FBI officials, Strzok and Page, confirms what has long been evident: that Clinton had the overwhelming support of senior officials in the military-intelligence apparatus, who regarded Trump as an unstable and potentially dangerous wielder of the powers of the commander-in-chief.” (“Political warfare escalates over Mueller investigation into Trump-Russia claims”, World Socialist Web Site)

While it’s clear that this political cage-match is going to persist for some time to come, we’d like to make two points. First, that there was never sufficient reason to appoint a Special Counsel. The threshold for making such an appointment should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule because it improved the Special Counsel’s chances of netting indictments.

Even so, there’s no evidence that a crime has been committed. None. And that’s been the main criticism of the investigation from the get go. It’s fine for the New York Times and the Washington Post to reiterate the same tedious, unsubstantiated claims over and over again ad nauseam. Their right to fabricate news is guaranteed under the First Amendment and they take full advantage of that privilege. But it’s different for professional attorney operating at the highest level of the Justice Department to appoint a Special Counsel to rummage through all manner of private or privileged documents, transcripts, tax returns, private conversations, intercepted phone calls and emails– of the democratically-elected president– based on nothing more than the spurious and politically-motivated allegations made in the nation’s elite media or by flagrantly-partisan actors operating in the Intelligence Community or law enforcement.

Can you see the problem here? This is not just an attack on Trump (whose immigration, environmental, health care, tax and foreign policies I personally despise.) It is an attempt to roll back the results of the election by bogging him down in legal proceedings making it impossible for him to govern. These attacks are not just on Trump, they’re on the legitimate authority of the people to choose their own leaders in democratic elections. That’s what’s at stake. And that’s why there must be a high threshold for launching an investigation like this.

Consider this: On May 17, 2017, when Rosenstein announced his decision to appoint a Special Counsel he said the following:

“In my capacity as acting attorney general I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a special counsel to assume responsibility for this matter. My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination. What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command.” Rosenstein wrote that his responsibility is to ensure a “full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.” As special counsel, Mueller is charged with investigating “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.”

That’s not good enough. There’s no evidence that “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump” were improper, unethical or illegal. Nor do any such presumed “links and/or coordination” imply a crime was committed. Rather, the loosey-goosy standard Rosenstein has applied is an invitation for an open ended fishing expedition aimed at derailing the political agenda of the elected government. This puts too much power in the hands of unelected agents in the bureaucracy who may be influenced by powerbrokers operating behind the scenes who want to disrupt, obstruct, or paralyze the government. And this, in fact, is exactly what is taking place presently.

Naturally, a broad-ranging mandate like Rosenstein’s will result in excesses, and it has. Of the four people who have been caught up in Mueller’s expansive dragnet, exactly zero have been indicted on charges even remotely connected to the original allegation of “collusion with Russia to sway the presidential election in Trump’s favor.” Clearly, people’s civil liberties are being violated to conduct a political jihad on an unpopular president and his aids.

So, how does one establish whether there’s a reasonable basis to believe that a crime has been committed?

The daily blather in the media does not meet that standard nor does the much ballyhooed Intelligence Community Assessment that was supposed to provide ironclad proof of Russian meddling in the elections. The ICA even offered this sweeping disclaimer at the beginning of the report which admits that the intelligence gathered therein should not in any way be construed to represent solid evidence of anything.
Here’s the from the report:

“Judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact. Assessments are based on collected information, which is often incomplete or fragmentary, as well as logic, argumentation, and precedents.”

So while the media frequently refers to the ICA as providing proof of Russia meddling, the report’s own authors suggest that any such judgments should be taken with a very large grain of salt. Nothing is certain, information is “incomplete or fragmentary”, and the entire report is based on what-amounts-to ‘educated guesswork.’

Bottom line: There is no proof of hacking, there is no proof of collusion, there is no proof of meddling, and the ICA makes it perfectly clear that the Intelligence Community analysts make no such claims in their report. Thus, there is no ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed” or that there is any legitimate reason to appoint a Special Counsel.

If that’s the case, then we must ask ourselves: Is Donald Trump entitled to the same legal treatment and civil rights as every other American citizen? If he is, than Rosenstein should be required to make his case, show that there is reasonable basis to believe that a crime has been committed” or terminate the Special Counsel immediately.

The second point we want to make, relates to Mueller himself who–far from being a “stand-up fellow” with a spotless record, and an unshakable commitment to principle–is not the exemplar people seem to think he is. In fact, his personal integrity and credibility are greatly in doubt. Here’s a little background on Mueller from former-FBI Special Agent Colleen Rowley who was named Time’s Person of the Year in 2002:

“Mueller’s FBI was also severely criticized by Department of Justice Inspector Generals finding the FBI overstepped the law improperly serving hundreds of thousands of “national security letters” to obtain private (and irrelevant) metadata on citizens, and for infiltrating nonviolent anti-war groups under the guise of investigating “terrorism.”…

… Comey and Mueller were complicit with implementing a form of martial law, perpetrated via secret Office of Legal Counsel memos mainly written by John Yoo and predicated upon Yoo’s singular theories of absolute “imperial” or “war presidency” powers, and requiring Ashcroft every 90 days to renew certification of a “state of emergency.”

Mueller was even okay with the CIA conducting torture programs after his own agents warned against participation. Agents were simply instructed not to document such torture, and any “war crimes files” were made to disappear. Not only did “collect it all” surveillance and torture programs continue, but Mueller’s (and then Comey’s) FBI later worked to prosecute NSA and CIA whistleblowers who revealed these illegalities…

Mueller didn’t speak the truth about a war he knew to be unjustified. He didn’t speak out against torture. He didn’t speak out against unconstitutional surveillance. And he didn’t tell the truth about 9/11.” (“Comey and Mueller: Russia-gate’s Mythical Heroes”, Colleen Rowley, Counterpunch)

Illegal spying on American citizens? Infiltration of nonviolent anti-war groups? Martial law? Torture??

This is NOT how Mueller is portrayed in the media, is it?

The fact is, Mueller is no elder statesman or paragon of virtue. He’s a political assassin whose task is to take down Trump at all cost. Unfortunately for Mueller, the credibility of his investigation is beginning to wane as conflicts of interest mount and public confidence dwindles. After 18 months of relentless propaganda and political skullduggery, the Russia-gate fiction is beginning to unravel.

 
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  1. 82 percent of Republicans believe that Trump did NOT commit a crime, while 74 percent of Democrats think that he did.

    Nothing will change those numbers. Trump should just fire this ass hole immediately. I would party until I dropped.

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  2. Nope. He should leave him continue to discredit himself, his FBI cronies, Hillary, and the DNC.
    This investigation has been the GOPs best friend !

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    • Replies: @Wally
    Indeed, the left wants Trump to fire him, it provides a fake 'obstruction of justice' cover for Mueller & cabal not finding squat.
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  3. No Trump should not fire Trump. All this is provocation by Democrats. This is indication that Miller has nothing. But Trump has a right to call Miller on the carpet, and ask him about progress of the investigation, and also Trump has a right to demand from Miller estimation of the timeline of the investigation including the time of conclusion of the investigation.
    If Miller will be not able give satisfactory answer for these question than Trump should cut the resources for this investigation and tell Miller that he can continue his investigation but he has to do it “pro buono”

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    Are you typing, or dictating?

    Please review your comments for misspelling and other errors.
    , @Corvinus
    "This is indication that Miller has nothing."

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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  4. I agree with the writer that it is high time the Mueller thing be terminated. It stank from the beginning, as Whitney convincingly indicated in his earlier articles. It is also high time that Comey, Strok, McCabe and the others, including Mueller himself, were investigated for their own actions. I fully agree with Mr. Whitney’s contention that Trump is seriously flawed, indeed so seriously that his removal might be desirable except for the identity of his detractors, a crowd of fascist hyenas using fraudulent accusations.

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  5. “The skepticism about Mueller probably has less to do with the man, than it does with Washington in general.”

    That may be the case among those who have never bothered to look past the mainstream TV news for information about Mueller. Those who have kept up with his career in the swamp have been skeptical (to say the least) about Mueller’s appointment because he’s so obviously a criminal himself.

    That segment of the general public, as it were, have been opposed to the establishment of the investigation itself from the first day it was proposed.

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  6. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    No Trump should not fire Trump. All this is provocation by Democrats. This is indication that Miller has nothing. But Trump has a right to call Miller on the carpet, and ask him about progress of the investigation, and also Trump has a right to demand from Miller estimation of the timeline of the investigation including the time of conclusion of the investigation.
    If Miller will be not able give satisfactory answer for these question than Trump should cut the resources for this investigation and tell Miller that he can continue his investigation but he has to do it "pro buono"

    Are you typing, or dictating?

    Please review your comments for misspelling and other errors.

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    • Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I try! I try! And also I do appreciate any help.
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  7. @anonymous
    Are you typing, or dictating?

    Please review your comments for misspelling and other errors.

    I try! I try! And also I do appreciate any help.

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    • Agree: Dan Hayes
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  8. Liverpool says:

    I was raised by Democrats, and used to vote for them. But these days, I think heck would freeze over before I’d vote Democrat again. From my point of view, Bernie tried to pull them back to sanity. But the hard core Clinton-corporate-corrupt Democrats have declared war on any movement for reform within the Democratic Party. And there is no way that I’m voting for any of these corrupt-corporate Democrats ever again.

    Of course, the notion of ‘reform’ within the Democratic Party is an oxymoron. Its been around since Nader, when the corrupt-corporate Democrats tried to tell us that the way forward was to work within the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and change things that way. We saw the way the corrupt-corporate Democrats colluded and rigged the last Presidential Primaries so that Corrupt-Corporate-Clinton was guaranteed the corrupt-corporate Democrat nomination. That’s a loud and clear message to anyone who thinks they can achieve change within the corrupt-corporate-colluding-rigged Democratic Party.

    Since I’ve always been anti-war, I’ve been forced to follow what anti-war movement there is over to the Republicans. And I see Steve Bannon trying to wage the fight within the Republican party that the fake-reformers in the Democrats never even tried …. ie, numerous primary challenges to corrupt-corporate Democrats. That never happened, and by 2012 I was convinced that even the fake-reformers within the corrupt-corporate Democrats were fakes who only wanted fund-raising but didn’t really fight for reform.

    Neither party represents any but the richest of the rich these days. Both parties lie to voters and try to pretend that they might actually give a damn about the rest of us. But the only sign of life that I see of anyone trying to fight back against this Bannon inside the Republicans. I’m not thrilled with Bannon, although he’s not nearly as bad as the loony-lefties in the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and their many satellites call him. But he’s the only one putting up a fight. I just hope that maybe someone will run in primaries against the corrupt-corporate-Republicans who fake-represent the part of the map where I live.

    Neither party is on our side. The establishment in both parties is crooked and corrupt. Someone needs to fight them. And I sure as heck won’t vote for the corrupt and the crooked. Since the Democrats are doubling down on corrupt and crooked and telling such big lies that even Goebbels would blush, it doesn’t look like I’ll ever vote Dem0crat again.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    "Neither party is on our side"
    Agree.
    , @Beckow
    Good points, good summary. But you are looking for what cannot exist - no mature system has ever successfully re-adjusted itself in history ('reformed'). It cannot be done. In the past, wars and 'revolutions' intervened to provide a reset. That allowed for some adjustments by insiders, and systems would stay viable. Today, that is very unlikely. So the insider dynamic ($, careers, more $, nepotistic 'networking' circles,...), so well represented by the rise of the Clinton clan is what takes over.

    It goes on, until it cannot go on any longer. When the numbers - e.g. rent/income, or debt service percentage of the economy, or too many people piled on top of each other - reach a point of irrationality, things will change. Until then, having a disruptive outsider like Trump is most one can hope for. He might trigger inflation and that would prolong the system viability - as all debts would get deflated. Or he might fail. But his very appearance is a sign of coming instability.
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  9. Corvinus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    No Trump should not fire Trump. All this is provocation by Democrats. This is indication that Miller has nothing. But Trump has a right to call Miller on the carpet, and ask him about progress of the investigation, and also Trump has a right to demand from Miller estimation of the timeline of the investigation including the time of conclusion of the investigation.
    If Miller will be not able give satisfactory answer for these question than Trump should cut the resources for this investigation and tell Miller that he can continue his investigation but he has to do it "pro buono"

    “This is indication that Miller has nothing.”

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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    What are you blabbing about. Gigantic???????
    Are you some kind of retard?
    All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead.
    And all investigation will end.
    That is only one relevant item.
    So the investigation cannot last a decades. Already now it is running about a year.
    According to what I do see now the investigation will last until the end of Trump's first term.
    But I really doubt it that it will last until the end of his second term.
    , @El Dato

    The scope of the investigation is gigantic.
     
    "We are investigating the Illuminati here. Who are in cahoots with Zeta Reticulans. And the Radioactive Black Oil. Especially the Black Oil, and it's not talking! The fact that we have every conversation between man and dog on tape in Utah doesn't even help, this is galactic, I tell you!"
    , @Anon
    You mean, we should have better read the New Times and WaPo instead, in order to get the "gigantic scope of the investigation?" -- Thank you very much. But these ziocons' nests have not provided any hard facts related to the main goal of this particular investigation. However, a true and immense value of the investigation is the exposure of the incompetence of and political manipulations by the FBI deciders -- as well as the sausage making under Clinton leadership in the DNC kitchen.
    , @FB
    Hey CorvAnus...

    You know what's 'Gigantic...?'

    The huge amount of empty space between your ears...

    PS: I second Ilyana's 'retard' assessment...
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  10. @Corvinus
    "This is indication that Miller has nothing."

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    What are you blabbing about. Gigantic???????
    Are you some kind of retard?
    All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead.
    And all investigation will end.
    That is only one relevant item.
    So the investigation cannot last a decades. Already now it is running about a year.
    According to what I do see now the investigation will last until the end of Trump’s first term.
    But I really doubt it that it will last until the end of his second term.

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    Are you some kind of retard?
     
    Yes Corvinus is a retard, that is why I advise you not to waste time on him.
    , @Corvinus
    "All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead."

    Clearly you do not comprehend the scope and magnitude of Trump's apparent malfeasance. Again, please educate yourself.

    Even Bannon realizes that the jig is up.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/23/swamp-diary-breitbart-bannon-kushner-216166
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  11. jjc says:

    “You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor”

    Seth Abramson assumes numerous articles of faith, not least that collusion between Trump campaign and Russian operatives directed by Putin is already settled fact. He is not alone. What has settled this matter? The January 6 intelligence assessment. But, as per Whitney, this assessment states clearly “Judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact.”

    That the FBI did not access the hard drives which were supposedly hacked by the Russians is a very curious omission in their investigation. The forensic information that the download speeds of the alleged “hack” demonstrate the information was secured directly rather than online is a major indication that the “hack” story is incorrect. This is buttressed by the insistence of Assange and his colleague Craig Murray that the DNC emails were leaked, not hacked. The NSA’s William Binney insists that traceable digital fingerprints would necessarily exist if it really was a hack, but such has never been produced.

    I note that the reaction to the above information by the faith-based “Russia hacked the election” community has been to 1) berate Assange, Murray, and Binney 2) insist the evil Russians have secret high-speed hacking equipment 3) claim that it is all settled fact.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    We can be sure that the honorable and patriotic Americans -- like the US Intel Vets Ray McGovern, William Binney, Kirk Wiebe and others -- are intolerable for Seth Abramson and other Israel-firsters: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/20/the-gaping-holes-of-russia-gate/
    This scoundrel (Jewish-Ukrainian) in particular deserves to be placed in federal prison: Dmitri Alperovitch, the Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of CrowdStrike.
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  12. This video of a rare intelligent and courageous Congressman explains all:

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    • Replies: @Realist
    Jordan and Gowdy have been 'grilling' the opposition for years with nothing to show for it....just grandstanding.
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  13. Wally says:
    @boogerbently
    Nope. He should leave him continue to discredit himself, his FBI cronies, Hillary, and the DNC.
    This investigation has been the GOPs best friend !

    Indeed, the left wants Trump to fire him, it provides a fake ‘obstruction of justice’ cover for Mueller & cabal not finding squat.

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    • Agree: utu
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  14. unit472 says:

    We now know the ‘fix’ was in when Comey admitted that Congress was not informed that an FBI counterintelligence investigation with the Trump campaign as the target in the summer of 2016. The basis for this investigation seems to be nothing more than that Clinton supplied Russian dossier. That the head of the FBI’s counterintelligence operations, Bill Priestap deemed the matter ‘too sensitive’ to disclose to Congressional Intelligence Committees until March of 2017 yet the Obama Administration disseminated the results of NSA surveillance throughout his Administration to the point where low level operatives like Evelyn Farkas could blurt out during an MSNBC interview that ‘it was important to conceal how we knew what we knew’ from the president elect.

    Mueller, if he were to really do his job, would redirect his investigation and target the Obama Administration and his close friend Jim Comey but his conflicts of interest, in particular, the Uranium One deal he approved makes that impossible. His only job now is to coverup the biggest conspiracy in the history of the US government.

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    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Anon
    "His only job now is to coverup the biggest conspiracy in the history of the US government."
    -- And he is failing at this.
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  15. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn’t yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That’s a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President’s third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that’s what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

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    • Replies: @Avery
    {Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas.}

    Flynn and Papadopoulos pled guilty to lying to the FBI: one of the "catch-all" hooks that FBI mis-uses to snag people. The guilty pleas had nothing to do with the alleged 'Russiagate', which Mueller is supposed to investigate. If you say _anything_ other than "I want to speak to my attorney", you can be charged with lying to the FBI. On the other hand, SCOTUS has ruled that the FBI can lie to you all day long.

    Mueller is desperate to find something, anything on Trump, so he is going to put the squeeze on people around Trump so one or more of then will manufacture something against Trump - to avoid jail.

    , @Wally
    The real story about 'lying to the FBI' and Trump asking them to 'back off ':

    Russiagate Becomes Israelgate
    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/russiagate-becomes-israelgate/
    and:
    From ‘Russia-Gate’ to ‘Israel-Gate’
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/12/03/russia-gate-israel-gate/

    , @Anon
    Hey, the Uranium One investigation is on a go. You should check the story and the money involved.
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  16. The fact that Trump is persecuted on the basis of zero facts and Hillary walked despite proven serious misdeeds demonstrates that Mueller (and the FBI) is BENT, BENT, BENT. He should be arrested and jailed.

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  17. neutral says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What are you blabbing about. Gigantic???????
    Are you some kind of retard?
    All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead.
    And all investigation will end.
    That is only one relevant item.
    So the investigation cannot last a decades. Already now it is running about a year.
    According to what I do see now the investigation will last until the end of Trump's first term.
    But I really doubt it that it will last until the end of his second term.

    Are you some kind of retard?

    Yes Corvinus is a retard, that is why I advise you not to waste time on him.

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  18. Realist says:

    “Should Mueller’s ‘Special Counsel’ be Terminated?”

    It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves.

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    I disagree, while the talking heads and the infotainment industry wheezes and kvetches about the investigation and the evil Russkis; the president and his team have done more significant improvements to the USA in 1 year than the last two presidents did in 16.
    , @Anon
    "It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves."
    -- Disagree.
    The investigation is the best thing for the US. It has exposed traitors (leakers) in the US government, the corruption of the FBI (which provided the leaks and did not investigate the allegedly hacked DNC computers and white-washed Clinton's criminal negligence), and the spectacular incompetence of the DNC-FBI deciders (the cooperation with foreigners in order to derail the governance of the US by the elected POTUS). Cannot wait to hear more about Awan affair (the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity under the watch of the current FBI brass) and about the investigation of Seth Rich murder.
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  19. Realist says:
    @Carlton Meyer
    This video of a rare intelligent and courageous Congressman explains all:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOMGZx22Q70

    Jordan and Gowdy have been ‘grilling’ the opposition for years with nothing to show for it….just grandstanding.

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  20. Washington D.C. is a few shades a away from being a full-blown kleptocracy, Argentina style.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/12/our-democracy-what-is-it-really.html

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  21. spider says:

    The assumption that Mueller is honest is questionable. He hounded Steven Hatfield for years about the anthrax letters. Then, he went after Bruce Ivins until he committed suicide–or was suicided. The chance that Ivins was guilty is about 0,001 percent.

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  22. Avery says:
    @Anon
    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn't yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That's a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President's third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that's what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

    {Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas.}

    Flynn and Papadopoulos pled guilty to lying to the FBI: one of the “catch-all” hooks that FBI mis-uses to snag people. The guilty pleas had nothing to do with the alleged ‘Russiagate’, which Mueller is supposed to investigate. If you say _anything_ other than “I want to speak to my attorney”, you can be charged with lying to the FBI. On the other hand, SCOTUS has ruled that the FBI can lie to you all day long.

    Mueller is desperate to find something, anything on Trump, so he is going to put the squeeze on people around Trump so one or more of then will manufacture something against Trump – to avoid jail.

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  23. Mueller should be imprisoned for his role in helping cover up Israels and the deep states role in the attack on the WTC on 911, which was the most diabolical draconian attack on America in its history.

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  24. Ram says:

    The Russiagate fiction is kept in the limelight by Theresa May playing Tonto to Trump’s Lone Ranger. That Russia was the major reason for the Brexit vote is kept alive, by repeated reference to the LIE by her and her Foreign Secretary.

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    Some Cohen unsurprisingly talking shit in the Grauniad: Russia’s free pass to undermine British democracy

    while RT brings this: Parliamentary fake news probe puts struggle for evidence against Russia on public display

    Ian Lucas MP asked the 3 witnesses from Spain: “Do you have evidence the Russian government interfered in the Catalan referendum?”

    I can paraphrase their answer. “No.”

    But moment of the day goes to Paul Farrelly MP (who doesn’t use Twitter by the way, so he’s safe from all the fake news). He wanted to talk about Assange because: “Clearly with Assange you’ve got the Venezuela connection... Assange of course is holed up in the Venezuelan embassy.”

    Damian Collins pointed out actually it was the “Ecuadorian.”

    A bemused Farrelly said: “Is it? I thought it was Venezuelan. I’m completely wrong.”

    It’s good to see he can admit that.
     
    Talking about Assange, things are getting hotter:

    WikiLeaks lawyer’s office stormed by hooded raiders in ‘attempted robbery’
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  25. The problem for Trump is that if he sacks Muller, it will be taken as a tacit admission of guilt. The best he can hope for is that Muller will terminate his enquirey without finding any solid proof that he, Trump, colluded with Russians to manipulate the election. All that has been proved so far is that Trump Junior met with Russians who offered him DNC dirt. DNC dirt subsequently appeared on the internet via Wikileaks. All that proves is that Russians, perhaps acting on behalf of their government, perhaps not, wanted to influence the election and WikiLeaks was complicit in that plan. Junior has never admitted to accepting their offer or informing his father of it. Needless to say, nobody believes any of that, but the whole ethos of that 1980s “greed is good” generataion has always been to go as near the limit of the law as possible without leaving any incriminating evidence behind. Nobody will ever believe that Trump is innocent but sacking Muller would suggest panic. A fear that Muller was about to stumble onto something really incriminating. Trump’s alwyers will want to steer him away from that. What control they have over their raging bull of a client remains to be seen.

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    Trump can destroy Mueller's farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime. The presidential power of pardon is absolute and is unreviewable by any federal court.

    The president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice, as some other commenters has mentioned, if he issues pardons. Trump wouldn't have to fire Mueller. He could, however ask his AG to investigate Mueller's role in the U1 case. That would be an entertaining subject for future articles.

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  26. Svigor says:

    If the media was hoping to persuade the American people that Trump is guilty of a crime, they have a long way to go.

    Thanks for all the poll numbers, Mike. As suspect as poll numbers are, they give us at least an idea of what a lemon Big Media is selling. They pushed that narrative that hard for that long, and they haven’t even cracked 50%.

    As for Mueller, it’s not hard to pick up his swamp-rat odor. He’s BFFs with Comey, for one thing. And Comey is a consummate swamp creature, absolutely tailor-made for DC (just think about all his moralizing, how his tummy hurt dealing with Trump, etc). Remember, it’s extremely likely that Mueller had to sign off on Comey’s post-firing behavior. Those two put their heads together to game-plan, and Comey’s subsequent shitshow was by mutual design. That shitshow displayed that the two were at least as interested in playing politics as they were in being FBI.

    The WSJ’s charges are not without merit, as are the claims that Mueller has loaded his legal team with Hillary contributors (“a partisan pack of wolves”) or that both the DOJ and the FBI have been stonewalling congress for vital information they need to conduct a thorough investigation. But that doesn’t change the fact that the attacks on Mueller’s credibility are also part of an ambitious strategy to end the investigation and terminate the Special Counsel.

    Maybe it isn’t so ambitious. Maybe the WSJ simply sees the writing on the wall, smells blood in the water. It’s easier to push a guy over if you think he’s about to fall down on his own.

    For whatever reason, I think the right, even the cuck right, has decided enough is enough, we observed the formalities, time to stop pretending Mueller is on anything but a fishing expedition. Fishing expeditions are unAmerican; Americans quite naturally despise them.

    First, that there was never sufficient reason to appoint a Special Counsel. The threshold for making such an appointment should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met.

    Bingo. That’s why this is a fishing expedition; “let’s go investigate until we find something we can prosecute.” It’s about as un-American as it gets. It’s Soviet, it’s leftist, it’s Jewish, it’s un-American.

    These attacks are not just on Trump, they’re on the legitimate authority of the people to choose their own leaders in democratic elections. That’s what’s at stake. And that’s why there must be a high threshold for launching an investigation like this.

    Don’t worry, Mike; once we get a PotUS acceptable to Big Media, the swamp, and the oligarch class, we’ll go back to first world rules.

    Naturally, a broad-ranging mandate like Rosenstein’s will result in excesses, and it has. Of the four people who have been caught up in Mueller’s expansive dragnet, exactly zero have been indicted on charges even remotely connected to the original allegation of “collusion with Russia to sway the presidential election in Trump’s favor.” Clearly, people’s civil liberties are being violated to conduct a political jihad on an unpopular president and his aids.

    Correct. IIRC, at least 3 of those 4 would still be no more indicted than the average citizen, if they’d just not talked to po-po.

    I mean, think about that for a second; 3 of those 4 would be just fine right now, if they hadn’t spoken to the FBI except to ask for a lawyer, food or water, a bathroom break, a cot, or whether they were free to leave.

    So while the media frequently refers to the ICA as providing proof of Russia meddling, the report’s own authors suggest that any such judgments should be taken with a very large grain of salt. Nothing is certain, information is “incomplete or fragmentary”, and the entire report is based on what-amounts-to ‘educated guesswork.’

    An additional paragraph or two about that ICA, for readers not up to speed, might have been in order. TL;DR version; it’s shit, even for the intelligence community. They went right around their own rules in producing that report. Good rules, like “don’t let political hacks write your intelligence reports.”

    Good piece, Mike.

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  27. El Dato says:
    @Corvinus
    "This is indication that Miller has nothing."

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    “We are investigating the Illuminati here. Who are in cahoots with Zeta Reticulans. And the Radioactive Black Oil. Especially the Black Oil, and it’s not talking! The fact that we have every conversation between man and dog on tape in Utah doesn’t even help, this is galactic, I tell you!”

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  28. El Dato says:
    @Ram
    The Russiagate fiction is kept in the limelight by Theresa May playing Tonto to Trump's Lone Ranger. That Russia was the major reason for the Brexit vote is kept alive, by repeated reference to the LIE by her and her Foreign Secretary.

    Some Cohen unsurprisingly talking shit in the Grauniad: Russia’s free pass to undermine British democracy

    while RT brings this: Parliamentary fake news probe puts struggle for evidence against Russia on public display

    Ian Lucas MP asked the 3 witnesses from Spain: “Do you have evidence the Russian government interfered in the Catalan referendum?”

    I can paraphrase their answer. “No.”

    But moment of the day goes to Paul Farrelly MP (who doesn’t use Twitter by the way, so he’s safe from all the fake news). He wanted to talk about Assange because: “Clearly with Assange you’ve got the Venezuela connection… Assange of course is holed up in the Venezuelan embassy.”

    Damian Collins pointed out actually it was the “Ecuadorian.”

    A bemused Farrelly said: “Is it? I thought it was Venezuelan. I’m completely wrong.”

    It’s good to see he can admit that.

    Talking about Assange, things are getting hotter:

    WikiLeaks lawyer’s office stormed by hooded raiders in ‘attempted robbery’

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  29. Svigor says:

    Corvanus keeps lubing his corvanus in hopes Comey and Mueller will come by for shiatsu but so far nothin’.

    I don’t think Trump should fire Mueller (makes a martyr of his fishing expedition), but I also don’t know WTF Trump is doing with this thing. I haven’t read a single report about the Administration stone-walling Mueller’s investigation, which suggests that the administration isn’t stonewalling Mueller’s investigation. I think I would’ve stonewalled Mueller’s investigtion many months ago. “Fuck you, fish by yourself.”

    Hey, I guess he has better lawyers than I, but my strategy would’ve kept 3 of the 4 guys currently under indictment in the “not indicted” category.

    If Trump wants Mueller fired, he should start firing the top brass at FBI. Give no reason, just keep firing guys until one of the replacements terminates Mueller’s investigation. Then he can stop firing people.

    “This is indication that Miller has nothing.”

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    Oh, a gigantic fishing expedition, well whup-tee-doo. “We’re going to investigate everyone in America, and see what we can find to prosecute! The investigation will be the most gigantic ever undertaken! Positively massive in scope! Sooooo complex, it’ll take an army of lawyers!” Yay for gigantic fishing expeditions.

    Other things with gigantic scope: The Great Leap Forward, The Gulag Archipelago, and the stupidity of swamp-worshiping leftist partisan hacks.

    I try! I try! And also I do appreciate any help.

    Mueller, pro-bono. Your English is a lot better than my [your presumed native language here].

    I fully agree with Mr. Whitney’s contention that Trump is seriously flawed, indeed so seriously that his removal might be desirable except for the identity of his detractors, a crowd of fascist hyenas using fraudulent accusations.

    I love the misuse of “fascist”; it’s a tell you’re dealing with someone not all there, somehow (usually it’s cowardice or conformism, IMO; too dull to notice the error, or too little concerned with accuracy to care). How hard is it to tell a communist from a fascist, anyway?

    jjc says:
    December 23, 2017 at 3:36 am GMT • 200 Words

    Thank you. Leftists are tedious; they think they can get by with lying, if they do it in volume.

    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn’t yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That’s a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President’s third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that’s what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

    Anon, you ignorant slut. As Mike pointed out, and you were too stupid to glean, all 3 are guilty of…talking to po-po. Go pat your local swamp rat on the back for that one, I guess.

    Are you some kind of retard?

    Yes Corvinus is a retard, that is why I advise you not to waste time on him.

    We say this in jest, but I think there really is something off about Corvanus. Aneurotypical, let’s put it that way.

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    So Trump a billionare has 3rd rate lawyers.
    With all that money, why can't he hire firzt rate lawyers and really world class investigators? He is never going to receive any kind of a break from the press and what resemble his allies in Congress Gowdy and Jordan have proved to be windbags only slightly more effective than Hank Johnson and Maxine Waters. Consequently, he needs to tap independent investigstive resources or he will not be in office for the November 2018 election. Has he explored a little help from the Mossad?
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  30. Svigor says:

    The problem for Trump is that if he sacks Muller, it will be taken as a tacit admission of guilt. The best he can hope for is that Muller will terminate his enquirey without finding any solid proof that he, Trump, colluded with Russians to manipulate the election. All that has been proved so far is that Trump Junior met with Russians who offered him DNC dirt. DNC dirt subsequently appeared on the internet via Wikileaks. All that proves is that Russians, perhaps acting on behalf of their government, perhaps not, wanted to influence the election and WikiLeaks was complicit in that plan.

    Do you characterize Big Media shitstains as “complicit” in the plans of their sources? Then why do it when the outlet isn’t some big corporation?

    Nobody will ever believe that Trump is innocent but sacking Muller would suggest panic.

    Who’s innocent? We need a control sample.

    That’s why we say “not guilty,” instead of “innocent.”

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  31. Wally says: • Website
    @Anon
    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn't yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That's a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President's third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that's what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

    The real story about ‘lying to the FBI’ and Trump asking them to ‘back off ‘:

    Russiagate Becomes Israelgate

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/russiagate-becomes-israelgate/

    and:
    From ‘Russia-Gate’ to ‘Israel-Gate’

    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/12/03/russia-gate-israel-gate/

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  32. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t hold your breath but Mueller could tie Trump to the Gambino family. Like an old movie where Government law enforcement fought organized crime rather then became organized crime.

    Fire Mueller. Cut and paste Whitney could finally move on to another topic – if anything is as fake as a Russian conspiracy it’s the conspiracy to keep repeating how fake it is.

    An impeachment is not why Trump was appointed to the Presidency, however, the threat of one is great for ratings. A real impeachment would send parts of the population into frantic hysteria, which might be useful later. The great fear of the oligarchs is you – if you stop paying attention.

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  33. wayfarer says:

    “You’re defending a lie” Congressman DESTROYS CNN anchor in a HEATED EXCHANGE on FBI and Bob Mueller

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shTkGsYDDAo

    Trey Gowdy gets PISSED, GRILLS FBI director Christopher Wray with TRICKY questions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjsnUUFa6ho

    “You Cannot Defend Hillary Forever” Congressman Jim Jordan OWNS CNN Reporter

    …..

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  34. Mr.Mister says:

    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

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    Looks like we got ourselves are interloper from Thinkprogress?

    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan.
     
    This website is hyper-partisan. It does not ritually Hitlerize Trump in the first paragraph in every single article.

    Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is
     
    An intellectual, coming here?

    you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering
     
    A member of the deathcamp-promoting left? Could be Alternet.


    "I love the red SS death head on my collar, it was designed by Hugo Boss. Ah, here comes my limo."
    , @Anonymous
    This is the alternative perspective. You just can't handle it, too brainwashed by your msm narrative to accept any alternative viewpoint.

    Go back to the NYT or WaPo or HuffPo and keep getting your fake news.
    , @Anon
    Does the US Constitution make you vomit as well?
    From the article: "The threshold for making such an appointment [a Special Counsel] should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule."
    What is not clear for you re the Fourth Amendment? Your McCabe, Rosenstein, Clinton, Morell et al have betrayed the US Constitution by treating the national security services’ staff as their personal servants for political (and material) gains.
    Why don’t you make some pondering on why the Butcheress of Libya was not elected by the US citizenry? A hint: Sanders.
    There was also a young DNC operative Seth Rich -- remember him?
    There are also the ruined Syria and Libya; both were ruined under the supervision of Obama-Clinton team. Hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths, including a huge number of children… – Not your concern? Still vomiting over the US Constitution?
    , @norse nestor
    I love your songs.

    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me a space cowboy
    dadadadadadadumdum
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.
    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me maurice
    , @MarkinLA
    I think your post shows who is deranged.
    , @Alden
    Thanks for leaving unz and going back to salon and other liberal, White hating sites.

    Now if only Corvinus would join you.
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  35. El Dato says:
    @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    Looks like we got ourselves are interloper from Thinkprogress?

    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan.

    This website is hyper-partisan. It does not ritually Hitlerize Trump in the first paragraph in every single article.

    Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is

    An intellectual, coming here?

    you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering

    A member of the deathcamp-promoting left? Could be Alternet.


    “I love the red SS death head on my collar, it was designed by Hugo Boss. Ah, here comes my limo.”

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  36. remember when the ex FBI director was suppose to offer some earth shattering evidence or info on the case? the only bad thing that came out of that was that trump asked for personal royalty from him. which is bad but no where near bad enough as the press tried to make it out to be. all the hype for weeks and nadda.

    leave the investigators alone and let them do their jobs. let the investigation and the result speak for it self.

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  37. Svigor says:

    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    You’re clearly a leftist; they’re the only people who moan about how their tummies hurt (I almost vomited, I felt queasy, my legs wobbled, my sight grew dim, etc.) vis-a-vis politics, policy, etc.

    You’re welcome for the lesson on how to better blend in with humanity in future.

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  38. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It is way pass time for this whole charade to end. When Trump first wanted to fire Jeff Sessions, I was among those who defended him vehemently. Now I think Trump was right, he should’ve fired him. We need an attorney general who can stand up to the swamp and clean house. The FBI-DOJ, the nation’s top law enforcement agencies, have been completely corrupted during Obama’s reign of terror. And the same swamp creatures are continuing to run these agencies without any accountability.

    Jeff Sessions is sitting on the biggest political scandal in history and he’s doing absolutely nothing about it by continuing to recuse himself. A real AG with balls would’ve fired deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, Andrew McCabe, Christopher Wray and order an immediate investigation into Uranium One, Clinton Email, Susan Rice’s illegal unmasking of US citizens caught in surveillance of foreign nationals, and Loretta Lynch’s collusion with the Clintons including the tarmac meeting in AZ with Bill Clinton. This whole thing stinks to high heaven. A thorough investigation will completely destroy Obama’s legacy, rock the Democratic party to its core, and put that final nail in the Clintons’ coffin.

    Jeff Sessions has been a major disappointment. He either needs to unrecuse himself and step up or Trump needs to fire him and replace him with Trey Gowdy.

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  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Trump cannot fire Mueller now or the Dems will immediately call for his impeachment for Obstruction of Justice. Instead, he needs to have a sit down with Jeff Sessions. It’s way pass time for that pussy to unrecuse himself, step up to the plate, fire Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, Andrew McCabe, Christopher Wray, end this bullshit investigation and start a real investigation into Uranium One. If he’s unwilling to do that, then Trump needs to fire Jeff Sessions and replace him with Trey Gowdy or Devin Nunes, someone who can actually get the job done.

    I thought Jeff Sessions would be the best AG, he turns out to be the weakest, biggest pussy. Totally worthless.

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  40. CK says:
    @Realist
    "Should Mueller's 'Special Counsel' be Terminated?"

    It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves.

    I disagree, while the talking heads and the infotainment industry wheezes and kvetches about the investigation and the evil Russkis; the president and his team have done more significant improvements to the USA in 1 year than the last two presidents did in 16.

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    Where's the wall?????
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  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    This is the alternative perspective. You just can’t handle it, too brainwashed by your msm narrative to accept any alternative viewpoint.

    Go back to the NYT or WaPo or HuffPo and keep getting your fake news.

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  42. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Please, let Mueller stay to become a poster boy for borgistas. With each day, the incompetence of the CIA’ and FBI’ brass has been revealing with the greater and greater clarity. They have sold out the US citizenry for personal gains.
    Rod Rosenstein’ role in particular should be well investigated so that his name becomes tightly connected to the “dossier” and all its racy tales.
    “… there was never sufficient reason to appoint a Special Counsel. The threshold for making such an appointment should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule because it improved the Special Counsel’s chances of netting indictments. Even so, there’s no evidence that a crime has been committed. None.”
    — Anti-Consttutonal activity by Rod Rosenstein = Treason.

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    Sorry!
    My question supposed to be addressed to Anon.
    So here it is again:

    It is true that bulls intestine buried for a week become potent poison?
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  43. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    Does the US Constitution make you vomit as well?
    From the article: “The threshold for making such an appointment [a Special Counsel] should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule.”
    What is not clear for you re the Fourth Amendment? Your McCabe, Rosenstein, Clinton, Morell et al have betrayed the US Constitution by treating the national security services’ staff as their personal servants for political (and material) gains.
    Why don’t you make some pondering on why the Butcheress of Libya was not elected by the US citizenry? A hint: Sanders.
    There was also a young DNC operative Seth Rich — remember him?
    There are also the ruined Syria and Libya; both were ruined under the supervision of Obama-Clinton team. Hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths, including a huge number of children… – Not your concern? Still vomiting over the US Constitution?

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  44. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Liverpool
    I was raised by Democrats, and used to vote for them. But these days, I think heck would freeze over before I'd vote Democrat again. From my point of view, Bernie tried to pull them back to sanity. But the hard core Clinton-corporate-corrupt Democrats have declared war on any movement for reform within the Democratic Party. And there is no way that I'm voting for any of these corrupt-corporate Democrats ever again.

    Of course, the notion of 'reform' within the Democratic Party is an oxymoron. Its been around since Nader, when the corrupt-corporate Democrats tried to tell us that the way forward was to work within the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and change things that way. We saw the way the corrupt-corporate Democrats colluded and rigged the last Presidential Primaries so that Corrupt-Corporate-Clinton was guaranteed the corrupt-corporate Democrat nomination. That's a loud and clear message to anyone who thinks they can achieve change within the corrupt-corporate-colluding-rigged Democratic Party.

    Since I've always been anti-war, I've been forced to follow what anti-war movement there is over to the Republicans. And I see Steve Bannon trying to wage the fight within the Republican party that the fake-reformers in the Democrats never even tried .... ie, numerous primary challenges to corrupt-corporate Democrats. That never happened, and by 2012 I was convinced that even the fake-reformers within the corrupt-corporate Democrats were fakes who only wanted fund-raising but didn't really fight for reform.

    Neither party represents any but the richest of the rich these days. Both parties lie to voters and try to pretend that they might actually give a damn about the rest of us. But the only sign of life that I see of anyone trying to fight back against this Bannon inside the Republicans. I'm not thrilled with Bannon, although he's not nearly as bad as the loony-lefties in the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and their many satellites call him. But he's the only one putting up a fight. I just hope that maybe someone will run in primaries against the corrupt-corporate-Republicans who fake-represent the part of the map where I live.

    Neither party is on our side. The establishment in both parties is crooked and corrupt. Someone needs to fight them. And I sure as heck won't vote for the corrupt and the crooked. Since the Democrats are doubling down on corrupt and crooked and telling such big lies that even Goebbels would blush, it doesn't look like I'll ever vote Dem0crat again.

    “Neither party is on our side”
    Agree.

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  45. renfro says:

    These attacks are not just on Trump, they’re on the legitimate authority of the people to choose their own leaders in democratic elections.

    ROTFLMAO….as if our elections give us any choice except one corrupt liar or another corrupt liar.

    I say let the investigations roll on…could care less if Mueller is dirty or not, they’re all fucking dirty.

    Some interesting stuff has already come out like Kushner and Israel.

    I’am at the ‘burn baby burn’ stage….let the DC rats nest funeral pyre burn higher and higher.

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  46. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    "This is indication that Miller has nothing."

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    You mean, we should have better read the New Times and WaPo instead, in order to get the “gigantic scope of the investigation?” — Thank you very much. But these ziocons’ nests have not provided any hard facts related to the main goal of this particular investigation. However, a true and immense value of the investigation is the exposure of the incompetence of and political manipulations by the FBI deciders — as well as the sausage making under Clinton leadership in the DNC kitchen.

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  47. Svigor says:

    remember when the ex FBI director was suppose to offer some earth shattering evidence or info on the case? the only bad thing that came out of that was that trump asked for personal royalty from him. which is bad but no where near bad enough as the press tried to make it out to be. all the hype for weeks and nadda.

    leave the investigators alone and let them do their jobs. let the investigation and the result speak for it self.

    In context, there’s nothing at all wrong about Trump telling Comey he expected loyalty. The context being, the swamp is disloyal, Comey had given off signals of disloyalty, and Trump was making it clear that he didn’t want a disloyal swamp creature heading the FBI.

    The people elected Trump, Trump is PotUS, the FBI serves the PotUS. Asking the head of the FBI for “honest loyalty” means “you can refrain from being a treacherous swamp creature working to undermine me, the presidency, and American democracy, or I can refrain from keeping you on.”

    All the rest of it is Comey-Swamp-Communist projection.

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  48. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @jjc
    "You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.
    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"

    Seth Abramson assumes numerous articles of faith, not least that collusion between Trump campaign and Russian operatives directed by Putin is already settled fact. He is not alone. What has settled this matter? The January 6 intelligence assessment. But, as per Whitney, this assessment states clearly “Judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact."

    That the FBI did not access the hard drives which were supposedly hacked by the Russians is a very curious omission in their investigation. The forensic information that the download speeds of the alleged "hack" demonstrate the information was secured directly rather than online is a major indication that the "hack" story is incorrect. This is buttressed by the insistence of Assange and his colleague Craig Murray that the DNC emails were leaked, not hacked. The NSA's William Binney insists that traceable digital fingerprints would necessarily exist if it really was a hack, but such has never been produced.

    I note that the reaction to the above information by the faith-based "Russia hacked the election" community has been to 1) berate Assange, Murray, and Binney 2) insist the evil Russians have secret high-speed hacking equipment 3) claim that it is all settled fact.

    We can be sure that the honorable and patriotic Americans — like the US Intel Vets Ray McGovern, William Binney, Kirk Wiebe and others — are intolerable for Seth Abramson and other Israel-firsters: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/05/20/the-gaping-holes-of-russia-gate/
    This scoundrel (Jewish-Ukrainian) in particular deserves to be placed in federal prison: Dmitri Alperovitch, the Co-Founder and Chief Technology Officer of CrowdStrike.

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  49. Svigor says:

    PS, the tableau Comey the tummy-acher laid out where Trump gave him a tummy ache and told him he expected loyalty was a GREAT illustration of what a super cop Comey the tummy-troubled is. Comey of the upset tummy claims he thought Trump was pressuring him toward criminal activity. So what did Comey-Bismol do? He ran away as fast as he could, according to his statements. A lesser cop might’ve tried to lead the criminal on, get him talking, get him to incriminate himself, and eventually bag him, but Comey did what all good cops do; ran away from the crime as fast as his dorky legs would carry him. Presumably toward the closest supply of sodium bicarbonate.

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    True enough. Trump let Comey know that disloyalty would be a firing offense. Comey disloyally squawked to the media about it and got his disloyal ass fired for that. I thought it was the funniest thing that has happened since Hillary collapsed into her own footprint at the 911 memorial service.
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  50. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @unit472
    We now know the 'fix' was in when Comey admitted that Congress was not informed that an FBI counterintelligence investigation with the Trump campaign as the target in the summer of 2016. The basis for this investigation seems to be nothing more than that Clinton supplied Russian dossier. That the head of the FBI's counterintelligence operations, Bill Priestap deemed the matter 'too sensitive' to disclose to Congressional Intelligence Committees until March of 2017 yet the Obama Administration disseminated the results of NSA surveillance throughout his Administration to the point where low level operatives like Evelyn Farkas could blurt out during an MSNBC interview that 'it was important to conceal how we knew what we knew' from the president elect.

    Mueller, if he were to really do his job, would redirect his investigation and target the Obama Administration and his close friend Jim Comey but his conflicts of interest, in particular, the Uranium One deal he approved makes that impossible. His only job now is to coverup the biggest conspiracy in the history of the US government.

    “His only job now is to coverup the biggest conspiracy in the history of the US government.”
    – And he is failing at this.

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  51. Svigor says:

    “The criminal offered me a bag of uncut heroin, so obviously I got out of there as fast as I could, chastity intact, and called the New York Times ASAP. Just like they taught us at the academy.”

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  52. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn't yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That's a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President's third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that's what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

    Hey, the Uranium One investigation is on a go. You should check the story and the money involved.

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  53. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Realist
    "Should Mueller's 'Special Counsel' be Terminated?"

    It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves.

    “It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves.”
    – Disagree.
    The investigation is the best thing for the US. It has exposed traitors (leakers) in the US government, the corruption of the FBI (which provided the leaks and did not investigate the allegedly hacked DNC computers and white-washed Clinton’s criminal negligence), and the spectacular incompetence of the DNC-FBI deciders (the cooperation with foreigners in order to derail the governance of the US by the elected POTUS). Cannot wait to hear more about Awan affair (the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity under the watch of the current FBI brass) and about the investigation of Seth Rich murder.

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    "The investigation is the best thing for the US. It has exposed traitors (leakers) in the US government, the corruption of the FBI (which provided the leaks and did not investigate the allegedly hacked DNC computers and white-washed Clinton’s criminal negligence), and the spectacular incompetence of the DNC-FBI deciders (the cooperation with foreigners in order to derail the governance of the US by the elected POTUS). Cannot wait to hear more about Awan affair (the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity under the watch of the current FBI brass) and about the investigation of Seth Rich murder."

    As always nothing will come of this. Trump screwed himself.
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  54. fnn says:

    Relic Adlai Stevenson-type liberal law prof Jonathan Turley:

    https://jonathanturley.org/2017/12/20/muellers-muscle-play-why-the-gsa-email-seizure-was-both-unprecedented-and-unnecessary/

    For those familiar with Mueller, the blunt-force approach taken toward the GSA is something of a signature of Mueller and his heavy-handed associates like Andrew Weissmann. As I have previously written, Mueller has a controversial record in attacking attorney-client privilege as well as harsh tactics against targets. As a U.S. attorney, he was accused of bugging an attorney-client conversation, and as special counsel he forced (with the approval of a federal judge) the attorney of Paul Manafort to become a witness against her own client. Weissmann’s record is even more controversial, including major reversals in past prosecutions for exceeding the scope of the criminal code or questionable ethical conduct.

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  55. Beckow says:
    @Liverpool
    I was raised by Democrats, and used to vote for them. But these days, I think heck would freeze over before I'd vote Democrat again. From my point of view, Bernie tried to pull them back to sanity. But the hard core Clinton-corporate-corrupt Democrats have declared war on any movement for reform within the Democratic Party. And there is no way that I'm voting for any of these corrupt-corporate Democrats ever again.

    Of course, the notion of 'reform' within the Democratic Party is an oxymoron. Its been around since Nader, when the corrupt-corporate Democrats tried to tell us that the way forward was to work within the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and change things that way. We saw the way the corrupt-corporate Democrats colluded and rigged the last Presidential Primaries so that Corrupt-Corporate-Clinton was guaranteed the corrupt-corporate Democrat nomination. That's a loud and clear message to anyone who thinks they can achieve change within the corrupt-corporate-colluding-rigged Democratic Party.

    Since I've always been anti-war, I've been forced to follow what anti-war movement there is over to the Republicans. And I see Steve Bannon trying to wage the fight within the Republican party that the fake-reformers in the Democrats never even tried .... ie, numerous primary challenges to corrupt-corporate Democrats. That never happened, and by 2012 I was convinced that even the fake-reformers within the corrupt-corporate Democrats were fakes who only wanted fund-raising but didn't really fight for reform.

    Neither party represents any but the richest of the rich these days. Both parties lie to voters and try to pretend that they might actually give a damn about the rest of us. But the only sign of life that I see of anyone trying to fight back against this Bannon inside the Republicans. I'm not thrilled with Bannon, although he's not nearly as bad as the loony-lefties in the corrupt-corporate Democratic Party and their many satellites call him. But he's the only one putting up a fight. I just hope that maybe someone will run in primaries against the corrupt-corporate-Republicans who fake-represent the part of the map where I live.

    Neither party is on our side. The establishment in both parties is crooked and corrupt. Someone needs to fight them. And I sure as heck won't vote for the corrupt and the crooked. Since the Democrats are doubling down on corrupt and crooked and telling such big lies that even Goebbels would blush, it doesn't look like I'll ever vote Dem0crat again.

    Good points, good summary. But you are looking for what cannot exist – no mature system has ever successfully re-adjusted itself in history (‘reformed’). It cannot be done. In the past, wars and ‘revolutions’ intervened to provide a reset. That allowed for some adjustments by insiders, and systems would stay viable. Today, that is very unlikely. So the insider dynamic ($, careers, more $, nepotistic ‘networking’ circles,…), so well represented by the rise of the Clinton clan is what takes over.

    It goes on, until it cannot go on any longer. When the numbers – e.g. rent/income, or debt service percentage of the economy, or too many people piled on top of each other – reach a point of irrationality, things will change. Until then, having a disruptive outsider like Trump is most one can hope for. He might trigger inflation and that would prolong the system viability – as all debts would get deflated. Or he might fail. But his very appearance is a sign of coming instability.

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  56. Art says:

    The most damning aspect of all this is who and how did the FISA court decide to release spy data on the Trump campaign.

    No matter what else happens – people should go to jail over that – end of story.

    Think Peace — Art

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  57. It is true that bulls intestine buried for a week become potent poison?

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  58. You are biased and hateful and show you hand too easily, a real third rater at best.

    You may despise Trump but your views only have a basis in your friends and backers.

    If you are lucky you will be ignored, if not your will be held accountable in ways you may not expect.

    It is easy to spew, like you when you isolate yourself from the world with the like minded.

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    srsly, except from being hillary, what did trump (the obvious whatever ad hominems) do wrong ?
    , @norse nestor
    I'm somehow thinking 'you' is 'me'
    confusing thread
    "If you are lucky you will be ignored, if not your will be held accountable in ways you may not expect."
    you sound like a mobster
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  59. @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    I love your songs.

    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me a space cowboy
    dadadadadadadumdum
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.
    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me maurice

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    You better be careful. You watch out!
    He has powers. He can bring back people who died long time ago.
    But than maybe he is not so dangerous he only talk to dead people through VG board.
    , @Alden
    Wow!!!
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  60. @tradecraft46
    You are biased and hateful and show you hand too easily, a real third rater at best.

    You may despise Trump but your views only have a basis in your friends and backers.

    If you are lucky you will be ignored, if not your will be held accountable in ways you may not expect.

    It is easy to spew, like you when you isolate yourself from the world with the like minded.

    srsly, except from being hillary, what did trump (the obvious whatever ad hominems) do wrong ?

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  61. prusmc says:
    @Svigor
    Corvanus keeps lubing his corvanus in hopes Comey and Mueller will come by for shiatsu but so far nothin'.

    I don't think Trump should fire Mueller (makes a martyr of his fishing expedition), but I also don't know WTF Trump is doing with this thing. I haven't read a single report about the Administration stone-walling Mueller's investigation, which suggests that the administration isn't stonewalling Mueller's investigation. I think I would've stonewalled Mueller's investigtion many months ago. "Fuck you, fish by yourself."

    Hey, I guess he has better lawyers than I, but my strategy would've kept 3 of the 4 guys currently under indictment in the "not indicted" category.

    If Trump wants Mueller fired, he should start firing the top brass at FBI. Give no reason, just keep firing guys until one of the replacements terminates Mueller's investigation. Then he can stop firing people.

    “This is indication that Miller has nothing.”

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.
     
    Oh, a gigantic fishing expedition, well whup-tee-doo. "We're going to investigate everyone in America, and see what we can find to prosecute! The investigation will be the most gigantic ever undertaken! Positively massive in scope! Sooooo complex, it'll take an army of lawyers!" Yay for gigantic fishing expeditions.

    Other things with gigantic scope: The Great Leap Forward, The Gulag Archipelago, and the stupidity of swamp-worshiping leftist partisan hacks.

    I try! I try! And also I do appreciate any help.
     
    Mueller, pro-bono. Your English is a lot better than my [your presumed native language here].

    I fully agree with Mr. Whitney’s contention that Trump is seriously flawed, indeed so seriously that his removal might be desirable except for the identity of his detractors, a crowd of fascist hyenas using fraudulent accusations.
     
    I love the misuse of "fascist"; it's a tell you're dealing with someone not all there, somehow (usually it's cowardice or conformism, IMO; too dull to notice the error, or too little concerned with accuracy to care). How hard is it to tell a communist from a fascist, anyway?

    jjc says:
    December 23, 2017 at 3:36 am GMT • 200 Words
     
    Thank you. Leftists are tedious; they think they can get by with lying, if they do it in volume.

    Last I looked Flynn, and Papadopoulos have issued guilty pleas. Manafort hasn’t yet but I think he may be in a spot of trouble as well. That’s a wild guess on my part Mr. Whitney, like the rest of the media have been doing (according to Trump and yourself). More guilty pleas coming in 2018.

    Time is running out. When all the President’s third-rate attorneys have, is to discredit the case against him by trashing Mueller, I guess that’s what you do. You trash Mueller (and others). Bigtime.

     

    Anon, you ignorant slut. As Mike pointed out, and you were too stupid to glean, all 3 are guilty of...talking to po-po. Go pat your local swamp rat on the back for that one, I guess.

    Are you some kind of retard?

    Yes Corvinus is a retard, that is why I advise you not to waste time on him.

     

    We say this in jest, but I think there really is something off about Corvanus. Aneurotypical, let's put it that way.

    So Trump a billionare has 3rd rate lawyers.
    With all that money, why can’t he hire firzt rate lawyers and really world class investigators? He is never going to receive any kind of a break from the press and what resemble his allies in Congress Gowdy and Jordan have proved to be windbags only slightly more effective than Hank Johnson and Maxine Waters. Consequently, he needs to tap independent investigstive resources or he will not be in office for the November 2018 election. Has he explored a little help from the Mossad?

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    Has he explored a little help from the Mossad?

    Good question. Possibly he did. Mossad had everything on Weinstein who was protected by them, so it is possible that they were instrumental in detonating the affair.

    why can’t he hire firzt rate lawyers and really world class investigators?

    He can, but they won't go far and deep enough where it may become a risk to their careers or even lives.
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  62. Realist says:
    @Anon
    "It should have never been started. Trump and his administration screwed themselves."
    -- Disagree.
    The investigation is the best thing for the US. It has exposed traitors (leakers) in the US government, the corruption of the FBI (which provided the leaks and did not investigate the allegedly hacked DNC computers and white-washed Clinton's criminal negligence), and the spectacular incompetence of the DNC-FBI deciders (the cooperation with foreigners in order to derail the governance of the US by the elected POTUS). Cannot wait to hear more about Awan affair (the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity under the watch of the current FBI brass) and about the investigation of Seth Rich murder.

    “The investigation is the best thing for the US. It has exposed traitors (leakers) in the US government, the corruption of the FBI (which provided the leaks and did not investigate the allegedly hacked DNC computers and white-washed Clinton’s criminal negligence), and the spectacular incompetence of the DNC-FBI deciders (the cooperation with foreigners in order to derail the governance of the US by the elected POTUS). Cannot wait to hear more about Awan affair (the greatest breach of the US cybersecurity under the watch of the current FBI brass) and about the investigation of Seth Rich murder.”

    As always nothing will come of this. Trump screwed himself.

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  63. Realist says:
    @CK
    I disagree, while the talking heads and the infotainment industry wheezes and kvetches about the investigation and the evil Russkis; the president and his team have done more significant improvements to the USA in 1 year than the last two presidents did in 16.

    Where’s the wall?????

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    [Proper capitalization, spelling, grammar, spacing, and punctuation are strongly advisable if you want your comments to be published.]

    how is maga not about individual freedom ?
    not saying you should hate us goys being other people.
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  64. @tradecraft46
    You are biased and hateful and show you hand too easily, a real third rater at best.

    You may despise Trump but your views only have a basis in your friends and backers.

    If you are lucky you will be ignored, if not your will be held accountable in ways you may not expect.

    It is easy to spew, like you when you isolate yourself from the world with the like minded.

    I’m somehow thinking ‘you’ is ‘me’
    confusing thread
    “If you are lucky you will be ignored, if not your will be held accountable in ways you may not expect.”
    you sound like a mobster

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  65. utu says:
    @prusmc
    So Trump a billionare has 3rd rate lawyers.
    With all that money, why can't he hire firzt rate lawyers and really world class investigators? He is never going to receive any kind of a break from the press and what resemble his allies in Congress Gowdy and Jordan have proved to be windbags only slightly more effective than Hank Johnson and Maxine Waters. Consequently, he needs to tap independent investigstive resources or he will not be in office for the November 2018 election. Has he explored a little help from the Mossad?

    Has he explored a little help from the Mossad?

    Good question. Possibly he did. Mossad had everything on Weinstein who was protected by them, so it is possible that they were instrumental in detonating the affair.

    why can’t he hire firzt rate lawyers and really world class investigators?

    He can, but they won’t go far and deep enough where it may become a risk to their careers or even lives.

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  66. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “There is no proof of hacking,”

    Nor will any be produced either. If Trump were to drop dead tomorrow or, alternatively, decide to pack it in and go back to running hotels, Mueller’s Star Chamber Committee would close down the day after. Mueller is a tool of The Powers That Be. And they want Trump OUT—no matter what the cost.

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  67. FB says:
    @Corvinus
    "This is indication that Miller has nothing."

    Americans tend to think that Mueller is on a Law And Order episode in that how to gather evidence, and how to talk to witnesses, and how to make a case are neatly arranged within an hour. The scope of the investigation is gigantic.

    You and Mr. Whitney really need to educate yourself.

    https://twitter.com/SethAbramson?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    Hey CorvAnus…

    You know what’s ‘Gigantic…?’

    The huge amount of empty space between your ears…

    PS: I second Ilyana’s ‘retard’ assessment…

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    The empty space between Corvinus’ ears is periodically filled with the latest propaganda from liberal headquarters.
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  68. @Realist
    Where's the wall?????

    [Proper capitalization, spelling, grammar, spacing, and punctuation are strongly advisable if you want your comments to be published.]

    how is maga not about individual freedom ?
    not saying you should hate us goys being other people.

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    srsly, transgender toilets are freedom ?
    fuck mr mister
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  69. @norse nestor
    [Proper capitalization, spelling, grammar, spacing, and punctuation are strongly advisable if you want your comments to be published.]

    how is maga not about individual freedom ?
    not saying you should hate us goys being other people.

    srsly, transgender toilets are freedom ?
    fuck mr mister

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  70. H.S. says:

    “From Chicago to Hong Kong
    Via Istanbul the Talking Tong

    Dirty rats thru’ prohibition
    Money flowed thru gangsterism

    Acting out this fantasy
    In Hollywoods vicinity

    The best part for the best rendition
    Al Capone he sent to prison

    Citizen Kane came fast and quickly
    Conquerin ol’ New York City”

    Man: Come with me to the far lands of Baghdad.
    Woman: Oh, if only I could. That’s what I want more than anything in the world, but it could never be…
    Man: Of course it can…
    Woman: But my father would find us wherever we went. Yes, he has forbidden me to… to even speak to you, if he finds me now. I don’t know what he’d do…
    Man: But he doesn’t know that I’m… I’m a prince. Before, I was the thief of Baghdad now…
    Woman: It doesn’t matter…
    Man: Then follow me, darling, follow me now to the ends of the Earth

    Jon and Vangelis lyrics – The friends of Mr. Cairo lyrics

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  71. @Anon
    Please, let Mueller stay to become a poster boy for borgistas. With each day, the incompetence of the CIA' and FBI' brass has been revealing with the greater and greater clarity. They have sold out the US citizenry for personal gains.
    Rod Rosenstein' role in particular should be well investigated so that his name becomes tightly connected to the "dossier" and all its racy tales.
    "... there was never sufficient reason to appoint a Special Counsel. The threshold for making such an appointment should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule because it improved the Special Counsel’s chances of netting indictments. Even so, there’s no evidence that a crime has been committed. None."
    --- Anti-Consttutonal activity by Rod Rosenstein = Treason.

    Sorry!
    My question supposed to be addressed to Anon.
    So here it is again:

    It is true that bulls intestine buried for a week become potent poison?

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  72. @norse nestor
    I love your songs.

    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me a space cowboy
    dadadadadadadumdum
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.
    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me maurice

    You better be careful. You watch out!
    He has powers. He can bring back people who died long time ago.
    But than maybe he is not so dangerous he only talk to dead people through VG board.

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  73. @Michael Kenny
    The problem for Trump is that if he sacks Muller, it will be taken as a tacit admission of guilt. The best he can hope for is that Muller will terminate his enquirey without finding any solid proof that he, Trump, colluded with Russians to manipulate the election. All that has been proved so far is that Trump Junior met with Russians who offered him DNC dirt. DNC dirt subsequently appeared on the internet via Wikileaks. All that proves is that Russians, perhaps acting on behalf of their government, perhaps not, wanted to influence the election and WikiLeaks was complicit in that plan. Junior has never admitted to accepting their offer or informing his father of it. Needless to say, nobody believes any of that, but the whole ethos of that 1980s "greed is good" generataion has always been to go as near the limit of the law as possible without leaving any incriminating evidence behind. Nobody will ever believe that Trump is innocent but sacking Muller would suggest panic. A fear that Muller was about to stumble onto something really incriminating. Trump's alwyers will want to steer him away from that. What control they have over their raging bull of a client remains to be seen.

    Trump can destroy Mueller’s farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime. The presidential power of pardon is absolute and is unreviewable by any federal court.

    The president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice, as some other commenters has mentioned, if he issues pardons. Trump wouldn’t have to fire Mueller. He could, however ask his AG to investigate Mueller’s role in the U1 case. That would be an entertaining subject for future articles.

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    "Trump can destroy Mueller’s farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime."

    Except there are subsequent STATE investigations that are mirroring Mueller, in particular New York.
    , @Anonymous
    And by doing that, Trump would eliminate any doubt of his own guilt. He would face impeachment, and would get trounced in any bid for reelection.
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  74. @Svigor
    PS, the tableau Comey the tummy-acher laid out where Trump gave him a tummy ache and told him he expected loyalty was a GREAT illustration of what a super cop Comey the tummy-troubled is. Comey of the upset tummy claims he thought Trump was pressuring him toward criminal activity. So what did Comey-Bismol do? He ran away as fast as he could, according to his statements. A lesser cop might've tried to lead the criminal on, get him talking, get him to incriminate himself, and eventually bag him, but Comey did what all good cops do; ran away from the crime as fast as his dorky legs would carry him. Presumably toward the closest supply of sodium bicarbonate.

    True enough. Trump let Comey know that disloyalty would be a firing offense. Comey disloyally squawked to the media about it and got his disloyal ass fired for that. I thought it was the funniest thing that has happened since Hillary collapsed into her own footprint at the 911 memorial service.

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  75. “Should Mueller’s ‘Special Counsel’ be Terminated?”

    This is a trick question, right?

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  76. Mulegino1 says:

    The Bushies, Hillaryites and the Obamaites hate Trump. The former wrecked Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, and they attempted to do the same to Syria (they failed miserably due to the actions the TOTALLY superior counterparts of their heroes, namely Putin, Lavrov and Shoigu) and are absolutely enraged by that fact. They are also apoplectic that Trump- the political amateur- made them look like absolute fools with his total victory.

    The political establishment- especially the Hillaryites- are totally apoplectic and in Kubler-Ross’s denial stage. They are done for.

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  77. Corvinus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    What are you blabbing about. Gigantic???????
    Are you some kind of retard?
    All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead.
    And all investigation will end.
    That is only one relevant item.
    So the investigation cannot last a decades. Already now it is running about a year.
    According to what I do see now the investigation will last until the end of Trump's first term.
    But I really doubt it that it will last until the end of his second term.

    “All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead.”

    Clearly you do not comprehend the scope and magnitude of Trump’s apparent malfeasance. Again, please educate yourself.

    Even Bannon realizes that the jig is up.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/23/swamp-diary-breitbart-bannon-kushner-216166

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    Even Bannon realizes that the jig is up.
     
    You must be referring to this qualifying clause:

    "After scorning the Russia collusion theories as fiction, Bannon acknowledged the grisly reality that the Russia investigation poses for his former boss. And he blamed it all on Kushner, for having created the appearance that Putin had helped Trump."

    P.S. I noticed in another thread you've gone back to badmouthing Prof. Tony Martin. You should expect a response from me, shortly.
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  78. Corvinus says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Trump can destroy Mueller's farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime. The presidential power of pardon is absolute and is unreviewable by any federal court.

    The president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice, as some other commenters has mentioned, if he issues pardons. Trump wouldn't have to fire Mueller. He could, however ask his AG to investigate Mueller's role in the U1 case. That would be an entertaining subject for future articles.

    “Trump can destroy Mueller’s farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime.”

    Except there are subsequent STATE investigations that are mirroring Mueller, in particular New York.

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    That has nothing whatsoever to do with Mueller. Pardoning everyone Mueller gets indicted would shut Mueller down. That's what I said and that can happen no matter what state charges may come later. You seem to be saying that Mueller's fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?
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  79. MarkinLA says:
    @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    I think your post shows who is deranged.

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  80. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "All Mueller wants to find something worth of impeachment so he can staple it on Trumps forehead."

    Clearly you do not comprehend the scope and magnitude of Trump's apparent malfeasance. Again, please educate yourself.

    Even Bannon realizes that the jig is up.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/23/swamp-diary-breitbart-bannon-kushner-216166

    Even Bannon realizes that the jig is up.

    You must be referring to this qualifying clause:

    After scorning the Russia collusion theories as fiction, Bannon acknowledged the grisly reality that the Russia investigation poses for his former boss. And he blamed it all on Kushner, for having created the appearance that Putin had helped Trump.”

    P.S. I noticed in another thread you’ve gone back to badmouthing Prof. Tony Martin. You should expect a response from me, shortly.

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  81. Alden says:
    @Mr.Mister
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it's all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I'll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.

    Thanks for leaving unz and going back to salon and other liberal, White hating sites.

    Now if only Corvinus would join you.

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    Corvinus just made my ignore list. I think he's feeble minded and/or mentally ill. Anyway, he's a waste of time to respond to or to read.
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  82. @Corvinus
    "Trump can destroy Mueller’s farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime."

    Except there are subsequent STATE investigations that are mirroring Mueller, in particular New York.

    That has nothing whatsoever to do with Mueller. Pardoning everyone Mueller gets indicted would shut Mueller down. That’s what I said and that can happen no matter what state charges may come later. You seem to be saying that Mueller’s fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?

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    "You seem to be saying that Mueller’s fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?"

    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Again, educate yourself on the matter rather than spout of talking points. There is no "fishing expedition" here. He is working with the NYAG. There is a joint investigation, dear.
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  83. @Alden
    Thanks for leaving unz and going back to salon and other liberal, White hating sites.

    Now if only Corvinus would join you.

    Corvinus just made my ignore list. I think he’s feeble minded and/or mentally ill. Anyway, he’s a waste of time to respond to or to read.

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  84. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    remember when the ex FBI director was suppose to offer some earth shattering evidence or info on the case? the only bad thing that came out of that was that trump asked for personal royalty from him. which is bad but no where near bad enough as the press tried to make it out to be. all the hype for weeks and nadda.

    leave the investigators alone and let them do their jobs. let the investigation and the result speak for it self.
     
    In context, there's nothing at all wrong about Trump telling Comey he expected loyalty. The context being, the swamp is disloyal, Comey had given off signals of disloyalty, and Trump was making it clear that he didn't want a disloyal swamp creature heading the FBI.

    The people elected Trump, Trump is PotUS, the FBI serves the PotUS. Asking the head of the FBI for "honest loyalty" means "you can refrain from being a treacherous swamp creature working to undermine me, the presidency, and American democracy, or I can refrain from keeping you on."

    All the rest of it is Comey-Swamp-Communist projection.

    You seem to be overlooking the fact that the people did not elect Trump.

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    " You seem to be overlooking the fact that the people did not elect DT"

    Okay so who did then elect him, if it wasn't myself, and my sister and my friends and relatives who voted for him.

    So what you are saying is that the three to five million illegal votes in California giving HC the popular vote indicates that she in actuality should be in the WH, right?

    AJM
    , @Alden
    then who did elect Trump? I know, the Russians sent magic rays into the voting machines to elect Trump.

    That’s the standard propaganda poured into the empty brains of liberals.
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  85. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Twodees Partain
    Trump can destroy Mueller's farcical investigation by issuing pardons to any and every person that Mueller charges with a federal crime. The presidential power of pardon is absolute and is unreviewable by any federal court.

    The president cannot be charged with obstruction of justice, as some other commenters has mentioned, if he issues pardons. Trump wouldn't have to fire Mueller. He could, however ask his AG to investigate Mueller's role in the U1 case. That would be an entertaining subject for future articles.

    And by doing that, Trump would eliminate any doubt of his own guilt. He would face impeachment, and would get trounced in any bid for reelection.

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  86. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “How Much Did Mueller and Rosenstein Know about Uranium One?” by Daniel John Sobieski: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/10/how_much_did_mueller_and_rosenstein_know_about_uranium_one.html#ixzz52JY32H15
    As early as 2009 “secret recordings and intercept emails showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act…. The investigation was supervised by then-U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein, who is now President Trump’s Deputy Attorney General, and then-Assistant FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who is now the deputy FBI director under Trump. Robert Mueller was head of the FBI from Sept 2001-Sept 2013 until James Comey took over as FBI Director in 2013. They were BOTH involved in this Russian scam being that this case started in 2009 and ended in 2015.”
    — Looks like a nest of traitors and incompetent opportunists fattening on the US taxpayers’ money

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  87. @Anonymous
    You seem to be overlooking the fact that the people did not elect Trump.

    ” You seem to be overlooking the fact that the people did not elect DT”

    Okay so who did then elect him, if it wasn’t myself, and my sister and my friends and relatives who voted for him.

    So what you are saying is that the three to five million illegal votes in California giving HC the popular vote indicates that she in actuality should be in the WH, right?

    AJM

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  88. Corvinus says:
    @Twodees Partain
    That has nothing whatsoever to do with Mueller. Pardoning everyone Mueller gets indicted would shut Mueller down. That's what I said and that can happen no matter what state charges may come later. You seem to be saying that Mueller's fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?

    “You seem to be saying that Mueller’s fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?”

    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Again, educate yourself on the matter rather than spout of talking points. There is no “fishing expedition” here. He is working with the NYAG. There is a joint investigation, dear.

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    I am noticing your great knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, and prophetic imagination.
    I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done.
    I see this investigation more like "we know what Trump did" we only need to prove it.
    So please elaborate!
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  89. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The criminal activist Mr. Rosenstein has come under bright light:
    —————————————

    Office of Deputy Attorney General

    Washington D.C. 20530

    ORDER NO. 3915-2017

    APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS

    By virtue of the authority vested in me as Acting Attorney General, including 28 U.S.C. §§ 509, 510, and 515, in order to discharge my responsibility to provide supervision and management of the Department of Justice, and to ensure a full and thorough investigation of the Russian govemmenfs efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, I hereby order as follows:

    (a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice.

    (b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

    (i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

    (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

    (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a

    (c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

    (d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel.

    Rod Rosenstein

    Acting Attorney General
    __________________

    “The threshold for making such an appointment should have been probable cause, that is, deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein should have shown why he thought there was ‘reasonable basis to believe that a crime had been committed.’ That’s what’s required under the Fourth Amendment, and that’s the standard that should have been met. But Rosenstein ignored that rule.”

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  90. Alden says:
    @FB
    Hey CorvAnus...

    You know what's 'Gigantic...?'

    The huge amount of empty space between your ears...

    PS: I second Ilyana's 'retard' assessment...

    The empty space between Corvinus’ ears is periodically filled with the latest propaganda from liberal headquarters.

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  91. Alden says:
    @Anonymous
    You seem to be overlooking the fact that the people did not elect Trump.

    then who did elect Trump? I know, the Russians sent magic rays into the voting machines to elect Trump.

    That’s the standard propaganda poured into the empty brains of liberals.

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  92. Alden says:
    @norse nestor
    I love your songs.

    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me a space cowboy
    dadadadadadadumdum
    I came to this site for an alternative perspective that was NOT hyper-partisan. After having read this article it’s all I can do to stop from projectile vomiting up my breakfast. Trump is a deranged con-man that caters only to our faults, flaws, and weaknesses, never to anything virtuous or right. Anyone without the intellect to see Trump for who he is should immediately do an emergency consult with Dr.Kevorkian, as you are a subhuman with no value to this world, and you deserve nothing but pain and suffering. Deleting this site from my bookmarks, I’ll leave it to the 15-20 people that actually read this site.
    dadadadadadadumdum
    some people call me maurice

    Wow!!!

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  93. I think the investigation is revealing m ore about democrats than Republicans or the campaign of Pres Trump.

    I think the position should be narrowed in scope to the charge as opposed a wide open net with a limitless mesh knitting. As is — it’s a sword over the head of any target and that makes for bad politics and policy in my view. Unfair leveraging . . . . b y the losing side to get their way outside the scope of the process.

    Look, if it turns out that this executive undermined democracy by engaging Russian to cheat our electoral process – fine. I don’t think there’s any indication that the accusation is accurate.

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    Fusion One (the monumental bribery case involving national security), Trailblazer (fleecing the US taxpayers by Hayden and his coterie of incompetent and greedy contractors, while persecuting the competent professionals), Awan affair (the greatest breach in national cybersecurity), the thousands of "declassified" documents on Clinton's server, murder of Seth Rich (in DC !), delivery of the US weaponry and more to ISIS/Al Qaeda, cooperation of the US officials with neo-Nazi in Ukraine… The list continues. A question: Why the US citizenry continues paying the exorbitant amounts of money to the incompetent and dysfunctional national security apparatus?
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  94. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    I think the investigation is revealing m ore about democrats than Republicans or the campaign of Pres Trump.

    I think the position should be narrowed in scope to the charge as opposed a wide open net with a limitless mesh knitting. As is -- it's a sword over the head of any target and that makes for bad politics and policy in my view. Unfair leveraging . . . . b y the losing side to get their way outside the scope of the process.


    Look, if it turns out that this executive undermined democracy by engaging Russian to cheat our electoral process - fine. I don't think there's any indication that the accusation is accurate.

    Fusion One (the monumental bribery case involving national security), Trailblazer (fleecing the US taxpayers by Hayden and his coterie of incompetent and greedy contractors, while persecuting the competent professionals), Awan affair (the greatest breach in national cybersecurity), the thousands of “declassified” documents on Clinton’s server, murder of Seth Rich (in DC !), delivery of the US weaponry and more to ISIS/Al Qaeda, cooperation of the US officials with neo-Nazi in Ukraine… The list continues. A question: Why the US citizenry continues paying the exorbitant amounts of money to the incompetent and dysfunctional national security apparatus?

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  95. @Corvinus
    "You seem to be saying that Mueller’s fishing expedition could be switched over to some state court or other. What are you getting at?"

    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Again, educate yourself on the matter rather than spout of talking points. There is no "fishing expedition" here. He is working with the NYAG. There is a joint investigation, dear.

    I am noticing your great knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, and prophetic imagination.
    I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done.
    I see this investigation more like “we know what Trump did” we only need to prove it.
    So please elaborate!

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    "I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done."

    Read Seth Abramson.
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  96. Corvinus says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I am noticing your great knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, and prophetic imagination.
    I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done.
    I see this investigation more like "we know what Trump did" we only need to prove it.
    So please elaborate!

    “I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done.”

    Read Seth Abramson.

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    Read Seth Abramson.
     
    You mean this Seth Abramson?

    Seth Abramson is a writer, poet, attorney, editor and assistant professor of English at the University of New Hampshire, but he is most well-known for his unhinged Twitter account. To begin understanding the fraudulent narrative that he spreads across the web like a virus, we’ll start with a little anecdote. - excerpt from Stop Listening to Seth Abramson's Hack Trump-Russia Theories

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/stop-listening-to-seth-abramson-on-donald-trumps-r.html
     
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  97. geokat62 says:
    @Corvinus
    "I would be grateful if you would show me precise, possible impeachable offenses Trump has done."

    Read Seth Abramson.

    Read Seth Abramson.

    You mean this Seth Abramson?

    Seth Abramson is a writer, poet, attorney, editor and assistant professor of English at the University of New Hampshire, but he is most well-known for his unhinged Twitter account. To begin understanding the fraudulent narrative that he spreads across the web like a virus, we’ll start with a little anecdote. – excerpt from Stop Listening to Seth Abramson’s Hack Trump-Russia Theories

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/stop-listening-to-seth-abramson-on-donald-trumps-r.html

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    Or this Seth Abramson?
    (From his Twitter account):

    There's now a rumour in Congress that Trump plans to fire Special Counsel Mueller on December 22. If this happens it will trigger a constitutional crisis. This thread explains what's happening and what to do – please read and share it widely.

     

    This tweet was quoted on the whatdoesitmean.com website, followed by the explanatory note:

    Seth Abramson is the author of the secretive George Soros funded MFA Research Project.

     

    Ah - that Seth Abramson!

    I tried to "educate myself" about his "research project", but my Bing search engine explained:

    mfaresearchproject.wordpress.com
    We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us.

     

    I'll wait to see "what's happening" on December 22.
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  98. @geokat62

    Read Seth Abramson.
     
    You mean this Seth Abramson?

    Seth Abramson is a writer, poet, attorney, editor and assistant professor of English at the University of New Hampshire, but he is most well-known for his unhinged Twitter account. To begin understanding the fraudulent narrative that he spreads across the web like a virus, we’ll start with a little anecdote. - excerpt from Stop Listening to Seth Abramson's Hack Trump-Russia Theories

    https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/04/stop-listening-to-seth-abramson-on-donald-trumps-r.html
     

    Or this Seth Abramson?
    (From his Twitter account):

    There’s now a rumour in Congress that Trump plans to fire Special Counsel Mueller on December 22. If this happens it will trigger a constitutional crisis. This thread explains what’s happening and what to do – please read and share it widely.

    This tweet was quoted on the whatdoesitmean.com website, followed by the explanatory note:

    Seth Abramson is the author of the secretive George Soros funded MFA Research Project.

    Ah – that Seth Abramson!

    I tried to “educate myself” about his “research project”, but my Bing search engine explained:

    mfaresearchproject.wordpress.com
    We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us.

    I’ll wait to see “what’s happening” on December 22.

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  99. Sowhat says:

    “additional indictments are to follow”
    Let Muulor keep his investigation “ongoing” until hell freezes over. How cares? The taxpayers’ dollars are squandered on so many various Investigations and other ways that aren’t so hidden that we’re used to it. It assists and also keeps the deeper elements within the Government happy since focus isn’t on them.
    My suspicions are toward the very elements that are investigating. It perpetuates their “higher ground” meme and shows the Voter Base that they truly are attempting to keep everyone honest and transparent, while they draw us closer to the tolatitarian One World Order that slowly, surely is doing it’s best to fulfill their agenda. I suspect that the Industrial Military Intelligence Complex IS our government. Congress, the Courts, the Executive Branch are a rich, colorful facade for what really goes on behind their, now, slightly more exposed (to some) designs.
    Always, one can “follow the money” and connect the dots and, of course, always, plausible deniability is an integral part of the hunt for facts and truth. There’s always a whistle blower that shows up, twenty or thirty or forty or seventy years later that provides that “ah HA!” moment but, another integral part of the U.S. government is inertia. They wouldn’t, perhaps, couldn’t stop if they were outed in their birthday suites. So what? So what? Online social communiques continue, exposing this little tid-bit and that but, there is corruption and covertness in a bountiful, colorful pageantry that will never cease and, if it did, we would continue to pontificate and argue and name-call and say, “See THAT!” because that’s who we are. Reality is perception. Reality is perception.

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  100. Perhaps the judge in the Manafort case making the demand that the regime disclose Rosenstein’s memo giving Mueller his charter for the fishing expedition is a jumping off point to grow some cojones and simply terminate this whole farce. Mueller should himself be facing jail rather than attempting to put people in it.

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