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“Russia is an inalienable and organic part of Greater Europe and European civilization. Our citizens think of themselves as European. That’s why Russia proposes moving towards the creation of a common economic space from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean, a community referred to by Russian experts as ‘the Union of Europe’ which will strengthen Russia’s potential in its economic pivot toward the ‘New Asia.’” Vladimir Putin, President of the Russian Federation, February 2012

The allegations of ‘Russian meddling’ only make sense if they’re put into a broader geopolitical context. Once we realize that Washington is implementing an aggressive “containment” strategy to militarily encircle Russia and China in order to spread its tentacles across Central Asian, then we begin to understand that Russia is not the perpetrator of the hostilities and propaganda, but the victim. The Russia hacking allegations are part of a larger asymmetrical-information war that has been joined by the entire Washington political establishment. The objective is to methodically weaken an emerging rival while reinforcing US global hegemony.

Try to imagine for a minute, that the hacking claims were not part of a sinister plan by Vladimir Putin “to sow discord and division” in the United States, but were conjured up to create an external threat that would justify an aggressive response from Washington. That’s what Russiagate is really all about.

US policymakers and their allies in the military and Intelligence agencies, know that relations with Russia are bound to get increasingly confrontational, mainly because Washington is determined to pursue its ambitious “pivot” to Asia plan. This new regional strategy focuses on “strengthening bilateral security alliances, expanding trade and investment, and forging a broad-based military presence.” In short, the US is determined to maintain its global supremacy by establishing military outposts across Eurasia, continuing to tighten the noose around Russia and China, and reinforcing its position as the dominant player in the most populous and prosperous region in the world. The plan was first presented in its skeletal form by the architect of Washington’s plan to rule the world, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Here’s how Jimmy Carter’s former national security advisor summed it up in his 1997 magnum opus, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives:

“For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia… (p.30)….. Eurasia is the globe’s largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. …. About 75 per cent of the world’s people live in Eurasia, and most of the world’s physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for 60 per cent of the world’s GNP and about three-fourths of the world’s known energy resources.” (“The Grand Chessboard:American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives”, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, page 31, 1997)

14 years after those words were written, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took up the banner of imperial expansion and demanded a dramatic shift in US foreign policy that would focus primarily on increasing America’s military footprint in Asia. It was Clinton who first coined the term “pivot” in a speech she delivered in 2010 titled “America’s Pacific Century”. Here’s an excerpt from the speech:

“As the war in Iraq winds down and America begins to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan, the United States stands at a pivot point. Over the last 10 years, we have allocated immense resources to those two theaters. In the next 10 years, we need to be smart and systematic about where we invest time and energy, so that we put ourselves in the best position to sustain our leadership, secure our interests, and advance our values. One of the most important tasks of American statecraft over the next decade will therefore be to lock in a substantially increased investment — diplomatic, economic, strategic, and otherwise — in the Asia-Pacific region…

Open markets in Asia provide the United States with unprecedented opportunities for investment, trade, and access to cutting-edge technology…..American firms (need) to tap into the vast and growing consumer base of Asia…The region already generates more than half of global output and nearly half of global trade. As we strive to meet President Obama’s goal of doubling exports by 2015, we are looking for opportunities to do even more business in Asia…and our investment opportunities in Asia’s dynamic markets.”

(“America’s Pacific Century”, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton”, Foreign Policy Magazine, 2011)

The pivot strategy is not some trifling rehash of the 19th century “Great Game” promoted by think-tank fantasists and conspiracy theorists. It is Washington’s premier foreign policy doctrine, a ‘rebalancing’ theory that focuses on increasing US military and diplomatic presence across the Asian landmass. Naturally, NATO’s ominous troop movements on Russia’s western flank and Washington’s provocative naval operations in the South China Sea have sent up red flags in Moscow and Beijing. Former Chinese President Hu Jintao summed it up like this:

“The United States has strengthened its military deployments in the Asia-Pacific region, strengthened the US-Japan military alliance, strengthened strategic cooperation with India, improved relations with Vietnam, inveigled Pakistan, established a pro-American government in Afghanistan, increased arms sales to Taiwan, and so on. They have extended outposts and placed pressure points on us from the east, south, and west.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin has been equally critical of Washington’s erratic behavior. NATO’s eastward expansion has convinced Putin that the US will continue to be a disruptive force on the continent for the foreseeable future. Both leaders worry that Washington’s relentless provocations will lead to an unexpected clash that will end in war.

Even so, the political class has fully embraced the pivot strategy as a last-gasp attempt to roll back the clock to the post war era when the world’s industrial centers were in ruins and America was the only game in town. Now the center of gravity has shifted from west to east, leaving Washington with just two options: Allow the emerging giants in Asia to connect their high-speed rail and gas pipelines to Europe creating the world’s biggest free trade zone, or try to overturn the applecart by bullying allies and threatening rivals, by implementing sanctions that slow growth and send currencies plunging, and by arming jihadist proxies to fuel ethnic hatred and foment political unrest. Clearly, the choice has already been made. Uncle Sam has decided to fight til the bitter end.

Washington has many ways of dealing with its enemies, but none of these strategies have dampened the growth of its competitors in the east. China is poised to overtake the US as the world’s biggest economy sometime in the next 2 decades while Russia’s intervention in Syria has rolled back Washington’s plan to topple Bashar al Assad and consolidate its grip on the resource-rich Middle East. That plan has now collapsed forcing US policymakers to scrap the War on Terror altogether and switch to a “great power competition” which acknowledges that the US can no longer unilaterally impose its will wherever it goes. Challenges to America’s dominance are emerging everywhere particularly in the region where the US hopes to reign supreme, Asia.

This is why the entire national security state now stands foursquare behind the improbable pivot plan. It’s a desperate “Hail Mary” attempt to preserve the decaying unipolar world order.

What does that mean in practical terms?

It means that the White House (the National Security Strategy) the Pentagon (National Defense Strategy) and the Intelligence Community (The Worldwide Threat Assessment) have all drawn up their own respective analyses of the biggest threats the US currently faces. Naturally, Russia is at the very top of those lists. Russia has derailed Washington’s proxy war in Syria, frustrated US attempts to establish itself across Central Asia, and strengthened ties with the EU hoping to “create a harmonious community of economies from Lisbon to Vladivostok.” (Putin)

Keep in mind, the US does not feel threatened by the possibility of a Russian attack, but by Russia’s ability to thwart Washington’s grandiose imperial ambitions in Asia.

As we noted, the National Security Strategy (NSS) is a statutorily mandated document produced by the White House that explains how the President intends to implement his national security vision. Not surprisingly, the document’s main focus is Russia and China. Here’s an excerpt:

“China and Russia challenge American power, influence, and interests, attempting to erode American security and prosperity. They are determined to make economies less free and less fair, to grow their militaries, and to control information and data to repress their societies and expand their influence.” (Neither Russia nor China are attempting to erode American security and prosperity.” They are merely growing their economies and expanding their markets. If US corporations reinvested their capital into factories, employee training and R and D instead of stock buybacks and executive compensation, then they would be better able to complete globally.)

Here’s more: “Through modernized forms of subversive tactics, Russia interferes in the domestic political affairs of countries around the world.” (This is a case of the ‘pot calling the kettle black.’)

“Today, actors such as Russia are using information tools in an attempt to undermine the legitimacy of democracies. Adversaries target media, political processes, financial networks, and personal data.” (The western media behemoth is the biggest disinformation bullhorn the world has ever seen. RT and Sputnik don’t hold a candle to the ginormous MSM ‘Wurlitzer’ that controls the cable news stations, the newspapers and most of the print media. The Mueller Report proves beyond a doubt that the politically-motivated nonsense one reads in the media is neither reliably sourced nor trustworthy.)

The Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Community is even more explicit in its attacks on Russia. Check it out:

“Threats to US national security will expand and diversify in the coming year, driven in part by China and Russia as they respectively compete more intensely with the United States and its traditional allies and partners…. We assess that Moscow will continue pursuing a range of objectives to expand its reach, including undermining the US-led liberal international order, dividing Western political and security institutions, demonstrating Russia’s ability to shape global issues, and bolstering Putin’s domestic legitimacy.

We assess that Moscow has heightened confidence, based on its success in helping restore the Asad regime’s territorial control in Syria,… Russia seeks to boost its military presence and political influence in the Mediterranean and Red Seas… mediate conflicts, including engaging in the Middle East Peace Process and Afghanistan reconciliation….

Russia will continue pressing Central Asia’s leaders to support Russian-led economic and security initiatives and reduce engagement with Washington. …Russia and China are likely to intensify efforts to build influence in Europe at the expense of US interests…” (“The Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Community”, USG)

Notice how the Intelligence Community summary does not suggest that Russia poses an imminent military threat to the US, only that Russia has restored order in Syria, strengthened ties with China, emerged as an “honest broker” among countries in the Middle East, and used the free market system to improve relations with its trading partners and grow its economy. The IC appears to find fault with Russia because it is using the system the US created to better advantage than the US. This is entirely understandable given Putin’s determination to draw Europe and Asia closer together through a region-wide economic integration plan. Here’s Putin:

“We must consider more extensive cooperation in the energy sphere, up to and including the formation of a common European energy complex. The Nord Stream gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea and the South Stream pipeline under the Black Sea are important steps in that direction. These projects have the support of many governments and involve major European energy companies. Once the pipelines start operating at full capacity, Europe will have a reliable and flexible gas-supply system that does not depend on the political whims of any nation. This will strengthen the continent’s energy security not only in form but in substance. This is particularly relevant in the light of the decision of some European states to reduce or renounce nuclear energy.”

The gas pipelines and high-speed rail are the arteries that will bind the continents together and strengthen the new EU-Asia superstate. This is Washington’s greatest nightmare, a massive, thriving free trade zone beyond its reach and not subject to its rules. In 2012, Hillary Clinton acknowledged this new threat and promised to do everything in her power to destroy it. Check out this excerpt:

“U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton described efforts to promote greater economic integration in Eurasia as “a move to re-Sovietize the region.”…. “We know what the goal is and we are trying to figure out effective ways to slow down or prevent it,” she said at an international conference in Dublin on December 6, 2012, Radio Free Europe.”

“Slow down or prevent it”?

Why? Because EU-Asia growth and prosperity will put pressure on US debt markets, US corporate interests, US (ballooning) national debt, and the US Dollar? Is that why Hillary is so committed to sabotaging Putin’s economic integration plan?

Indeed, it is. Washington wants to block progress and prosperity in the east in order to extend the lifespan of a doddering and thoroughly-bankrupt state that is presently $22 trillion in the red but continues to write checks on an overdrawn account.

But Russia shouldn’t be blamed for Washington’s profligate behavior, that’s not Putin’s fault. Moscow is merely using the free market system more effectively that the US.

Now consider the Pentagon’s 2018 National Defense Strategy (NDS) which reiterates many of the same themes as the other two documents.

“Today, we are emerging from a period of strategic atrophy, aware that our competitive military advantage has been eroding. We are facing increased global disorder, characterized by decline in the long-standing rules-based international order—creating a security environment more complex and volatile than any we have experienced in recent memory. Inter-state strategic competition, not terrorism, is now the primary concern in U.S. national security.”

(Naturally, the “security environment” is going to be more challenging when ‘regime change’ is the cornerstone of one’s foreign policy. Of course, the NDS glosses over that sad fact. Here’s more:)

“Russia has violated the borders of nearby nations and pursues veto power over the economic, diplomatic, and security decisions of its neighbors…..(Baloney. Russia has been a force for stability in Syria and Ukraine. If Obama had his way, Syria would have wound up like Iraq, a hellish wastelands occupied by foreign mercenaries. Is that how the Pentagon measures success?) Here’s more:

“China and Russia want to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model…

“China and Russia are now undermining the international order from within the system…….

“China and Russia are the principal priorities for the Department… because of the magnitude of the threats they pose to U.S. security.” (National Defense Strategy of the United States of America)

Get the picture? China and Russia, China and Russia, China and Russia. Bad, bad, bad.

Why? Because they are successfully implementing their own development model which is NOT programed to favor US financial institutions and corporations. That’s the whole thing in a nutshell. The only reason Russia and China are a threat to the “rules-based system”, is because Washington insists on being the only one who makes the rules. That’s why foreign leaders are no longer falling in line, because it’s not a fair system.

These assessments represent the prevailing opinion of senior-level policymakers across the spectrum. (The White House, the Pentagon and the Intelligence Community) The USG is unanimous in its judgement that a harsher more combative approach is needed to deal with Russia and China. Foreign policy elites want to put the nation on the path to more confrontation, more conflict and more war. At the same time, none of these three documents suggest that Russia has any intention of launching an attack on the United States. The greatest concern is the effect that emerging competitors will have on Washington’s provocative plan for military and economic expansion, the threat that Russia and China pose to America’s tenuous grip on global power. It is that fear that drives US foreign policy.

And this is broader context into which we must fit the Russia investigation. The reason the Russia hacking furor has been allowed to flourish and spread despite the obvious lack of any supporting evidence, is because the vilifying of Russia segues perfectly with the geopolitical interests of elites in the government. The USG now works collaboratively with the media to influence public attitudes on issues that are important to the powerful foreign policy establishment. The ostensible goal of these psychological operations (PSYOP) is to selectively use information on “audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of… organizations, groups, and individuals.”

The USG now sees the minds of ordinary Americans as a legitimate target for their influence campaigns. They regard attitudes and perceptions as “the cognitive domain of the battlespace” which they must exploit in order to build public support for their vastly unpopular wars and interventions. The relentless Russiagate narrative (which was first referred to the FBI by the chief architect of the Syrian War, former-CIA Director John Brennan) represents the disinformation component of the broader campaign against Russia. Foreign policy elites are determined to persuade the American people that Russia constitutes a material threat to their security that must be countered by tighter sanctions, more sabre-rattling, and eventually war.

 
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  1. Beckow says:

    The emerging Euro-Asian power block is very heterogeneous. Russia, China, and the smaller affiliated players like Central Asia, Iran, Syria, Turkey don’t agree on almost anything. They have different cultures, religions, economies, demographic profiles, even writing systems. The most rational strategy to prevent the Euro-Asian block from consolidating would be to get them to fight each other. Alternatively, find the weakest link and attack it in an area where its reluctant allies don’t share its interests.

    Exactly the opposite has happened in the last 5-10 years: US has seemingly worked overtime to get China-Russia alliance of the ground. They used to distrust each other, today, after Ukraine, South China See, etc…they have become close allies. Same with Iran and Syria: instead of letting them stew in their own internal problems – mostly religious and having a nepotistic elite – US has managed to turn the fight into an external geo-political struggle, literally invited Russia to join in, and ended up losing.

    Bush turned Iraq from a fanatically anti-Iran bastion to a reliable ally of Iran and started an un-winnable land war in Afghanistan (incredible!). Obama turned Libya, the richest and most stable African country that threatened no-one and kept African migrants far away, into a chaotic hellhole where slave trade flourishes and millions of Sub-Saharan Africans can use it to move on to Europe.

    Then Obama tried to coup-de-etat Erdogan in Turkey, and – even worse – failed miserably. This gang can’t shoot straight – whatever they put in their position papers is meaningless drivel because they are too stupid to think. They have no patience to wait for the right time to move, no ability to manage on the ground allies, and an aversion to casualties that makes winning a war impossible. Today Trump threatens Germany over its energy security (pipelines), further antagonises Turkey and Erdogan, watches helplessly as EU becomes the next UN (lame and irrelevant), and bets everything on a few small allies like Saudi Arabia and Izrael that are of almost no use in Euro-Asia.

    A guy who says about the Russia-gate collusion fiasco that ‘maybe I had bad information‘ is no master of the universe. And he run the joint under Obama. Complaining about Russia saying bad stuff about you – or ‘information warfare‘ – is a pathetic sign of weakness. Maybe the testosterone levels have dropped more than we have been told.

  2. anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    the russophobia is just drama to keep the MIC spending at $700+ billion per year

    there is no way to justify that level of spending and pretend they don’t have $25 billion one time to actually help solve the real problem for the U.S.

  3. AWM says:

    Chaos, the Commies, Globalists, Elites, Bankers, Socialists, Fascists, anarchists, minorities, victimology cults, bureaucrats, MIC, politicians, and so forth, all LOVE it.

  4. Our foreign policy is driven less by a desire for hegemony (which would at least be pro-American, in a demented kind of way) than it is by a desire to weaken and ultimately destroy white Christian civilization. The warmongers who run our foreign policy and lied us into the 2003 invasion of Iraq were more interested in fomenting civilizational hatred between Islam and Christianity than anything to do with expanding hegemony. Those people, sad to say, are still in charge and winning.

  5. Krollchem says:

    “The USG now sees the minds of ordinary Americans as a legitimate target for their influence campaigns. They regard attitudes and perceptions as “the cognitive domain of the battlespace” which they must exploit in order to build public support for their vastly unpopular wars and interventions. ”

    Here is a short guide on how to detect subversion of the mind by the media and their handlers by a former military intelligence officer.

    • Agree: Johnny Walker Read
  6. JR says:

    If one recognizes that Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard, American Primacy & Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)” in replacing “Lebensraum” with “control over Eurasia”, “Tausendjähriges Reich” with “American Primacy” and providing our ‘elite’ with an “realist” and “amoral” excuse to act completely and consistently immoral one has to recognize too that this “Grand Chessboard” is an amalgamation of ‘Mein Kampf’ and ‘Il Principe”.

    Reluctant to use that Hitler comparison one ought to read the Introduction of the “Grand Chessboard” in which Brzezinki himself proudly refers to both Hitler and Stalin sharing his ideas about control over Eurasia as a prerequisite for that “American Primacy”.

    Recognizing this however one can’t escape the conclusion that this “Grand Chessboard” with its consistent ‘amoral realist imperatives’ is serving up inherently immoral ‘imperatives’ as inescapable options dressed up in academic language and with absolutely abhorrent arrogance.

    Stating that Brennan’s Russophobia is somehow a degeneration of Brzezinki’s “Grand Chessboard” is completely overlooking how difficult it would be to outdo Brzezinki’s own total moral degeneration.

    One has to recognize that by now the only bipartisan aspect of US policy can be found in sharing these despicable and immoral ‘imperatives’ to maintain that “American Primacy” at all cost (of course to the rest of the world).

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
    , @Wally
  7. slorter says:

    Fair assessment Mr Whitney! Good article for reference!

  8. Let’s put this issue into a wider historical perspective. In the summer of 1993, four years before Brzezinski published his Grand Chessboard, the last occupying Russian troops left Poland and Lithuania, but they refused to also vacate the occupied territory of Kaliningrad, which was never Russian but annexed illegally. The League of Nations Covenant in 1920 and the Kellogg-Briand Pact of 1928, both of which the USSR had agreed to, stipulated the inadmissibility of annexation of territory through conquest in war. Nor was Russia entitled to so at the 1945 Potsdam Conference,n or based on the United Nations principles in 1948, nor after the German unification 1m 1990.

    Remaining in this territory a quarter century ago was a severe blunder. It sent out the signal that Russia wanted to maintain the option of reconquering in the future the territories of the three Baltic countries that had gained independence in the 1990s. Such an obstructionist stance obviously could not go without consequences. It provoked the expansion of NATO. Poland joined in 1999 and the three Baltic republics in 2004. Before 1993 NATO did not have plans to expand eastward. Instead of trying to erase these relevant premises and obfuscating, Russia needs to face the facts and initiate a long overdue process of de-escalation that includes a complete withdrawal from this occupied land.

  9. nahhhh says:

    as an Eurasia person, I think EUOPE+ASIA+AFRICA=WORLD, America=huge Island in very big size. So the evil usa trying to mess up the WORLD will end up f*ck up itself.

  10. Tom Welsh says:

    Thanks for this very succinct, accurate and insightful summary of the situation.

  11. neutral says:

    The grand strategists like Brzezinski and their global chessboards are all domestically cucks. The fact that America will increasingly consist of third world rubbish never is factored into their grand plans. A brown America will have neither the will to rule the world (as it will have internal ethnic conflict to deal with) nor will it be able to rule the world as a land with so many inferior people simply cannot do so.

  12. onebornfree says: • Website

    Mike Whitney says: “Foreign policy elites are determined to persuade the American people that Russia constitutes a material threat to their security that must be countered by tighter sanctions, more sabre-rattling, and eventually war.”

    Par for the course, I’m afraid.

    Yet another statist complaining about, you guessed it: the state he idolizes!

    This just in: If you want a government in the first place, unless a truly effective way can be found to severely limit that government and prevent it from fomenting wars, [ obviously the US constitution failed in this regard], this [war] is what you are going to get. As Randolph Bourne said “War is the health of the state”.

    If it wasn’t Russia and China, other enemies would be found. So get over it. You want it , you got it, numbskull.

    “Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree

    Regards, onebornfree

  13. Jake says:

    “The allegations of ‘Russian meddling’ only make sense if they’re put into a broader geopolitical context. Once we realize that Washington is implementing an aggressive “containment” strategy to militarily encircle Russia and China in order to spread its tentacles across Central Asian, then we begin to understand that Russia is not the perpetrator of the hostilities and propaganda, but the victim. The Russia hacking allegations are part of a larger asymmetrical-information war that has been joined by the entire Washington political establishment. The objective is to methodically weaken an emerging rival while reinforcing US global hegemony.”

    TRUE!

    I would suggest that the initials ‘US’ in the final sentence be changed to: Anglo-Zionist Empire.

  14. Jake says:

    “Now the center of gravity has shifted from west to east, leaving Washington with just two options: Allow the emerging giants in Asia to connect their high-speed rail and gas pipelines to Europe creating the world’s biggest free trade zone, or try to overturn the applecart by bullying allies and threatening rivals, by implementing sanctions that slow growth and send currencies plunging, and by arming jihadist proxies to fuel ethnic hatred and foment political unrest. Clearly, the choice has already been made. Uncle Sam has decided to fight til the bitter end.”

    Just like the Brit Empire – of which the Yank Empire is merely Part 2, the part where it becomes obvious that it is the Anglo-Zionist Empire, which, like a band of screeching Pharisees standing on the walls of Jerusalem hurling curses at the Romans they inform that Jehovah will soon wipe out all Romans to save His Chosen Race, would choose utter destruction for all over any common sense backing down to prevent mass slaughter.

    • Replies: @flashlight joe
  15. Whitney still doesn’t know what Russia-gate is all about but he’s going to tell you anyway to make sure you get it – plus “the Government is trying to get into your mind.”

    The real silencing comes when it comes to reality. Men like Whitney push the MSM version of all lies and then add some more of their own for even more confusion. Centrally planned “free” market economies depend on psyops and raging debates. The people need stories built around “elections” otherwise they’ll lose meaning in their drone lives.

    • Replies: @ploni almoni
  16. Jake says:

    “The only reason Russia and China are a threat to the “rules-based system”, is because Washington insists on being the only one who makes the rules.”

    The end of that sentence with one little change from ‘Washington’ to ‘London’ would have been true from at least the ‘Glorious Revolution’ through WW1.

  17. Adrian E. says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    “[…] but they refused to also vacate the occupied territory of Kaliningrad, which was never Russian but annexed illegally. […] Remaining in this territory a quarter century ago was a severe blunder. It sent out the signal that Russia wanted to maintain the option of reconquering in the future the territories of the three Baltic countries that had gained independence in the 1990s. Such an obstructionist stance obviously could not go without consequences.”

    That is obvious nonsense. Of course, we can criticize the agreements of the allies in Yalta that led to far-reaching movements of borders and populations.

    But that happened after WWII. What should have been done in the 90es? Should the Kaliningrad Oblast have become German with its Russian population? That would have created enormous problems for Germany. Or should the Russian population of Kaliningrad be driven out, which would have been practically impossible and have created even bigger problems? Any why stop at Kaliningrad? People could have demanded that Polish cities like Gdansk become German again, and then Poland could have demanded that Vilnius/Wilna, Lviv/Lwów and large parts of Belarus and Ukraine become Polish again. Where should that have stopped? The most stupid reaction to the border and population movements after WWII would have been to demand to repeat something like that in the opposite direction.

    In contrast to Kaliningrad, the Baltic states do not have a Russian population (they only have a Russian minority that suffers discrimination). The idea that Russia would want to occupy these countries is a completely absurd fairytale. What interest should Russia have to do so?

    • Agree: Robjil
    • Replies: @anon
  18. What we have here is The Protocols of Zion in operation for the goal of a satanic zionist NWO and the only thing standing in the way is Russia, which is ironic in that Russia threw off the zionst/bolshevik reign of terror that had almost destroyed Russia and now the zionist/bolsheviks having conquered the Zio/US are back to trying to destroy Russia!

    Russia has become the hope of Christianity and the hope of the world!

    • Agree: Rurik, Alfred
    • Replies: @Jake
  19. China is poised to overtake the US as the world’s biggest economy sometime in the next 2 decades

    Let’s be honest: Chinese real economy is already much larger than American one due to:

    1. Gross undervaluation of non-American economies by US “institutions”;
    2. Gross overvaluation of US economy whose actual size is much much smaller than the numbers being thrown around by, yet again, US “institutions”.
    3. American de-industrialization continues and is not fixable under present political and economic conditions in US.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    , @Alfred
  20. Nothing harmed US more than Brzezinski’s ideology. US did build up far east with their investments, while neglecting their own backyard. US should have build up rather North and South America and make it the envy of the world. Neglecting particularly South America now created Desperate south American people, who have no jobs and no future and these people are now invading US.

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @anon
    , @Nawi
  21. @Beckow

    A guy who says about the Russia-gate collusion fiasco that ‘maybe I had bad information‘ is no master of the universe. And he run the joint under Obama. Complaining about Russia saying bad stuff about you – or ‘information warfare‘ – is a pathetic sign of weakness. Maybe the testosterone levels have dropped more than we have been told.

    Testosterone plus steady, unrelenting decline and corruption of American “elites” most of who have no background in any fields related to actual effective governance especially in national security (military) and diplomatic fields. Zbig’s book is also nothing more than doctrine-mongering based on complete lack of understanding of Russian history.

  22. @JR

    Reluctant to use that Hitler comparison one ought to read the Introduction of the “Grand Chessboard” in which Brzezinki himself proudly refers to both Hitler and Stalin sharing his ideas about control over Eurasia as a prerequisite for that “American Primacy”.

    Zbig was a political “scientist” (which is not a science) by education, fact aggravated by his Russophobia, and thus inability to grasp fundamentals of military power and warfare–a defining characteristic of American “elites”. He, obviously, missed on the military-technological development of 1970s through 1990s, to arrive to the inevitable conclusion that classic “geopolitics” doesn’t apply anymore. Today we all can observe how it doesn’t apply and is made obsolete.

  23. Again, we ignore the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

  24. Cowboy says:

    “Brzezinski’s Chessboard

    The Masonic black and white chessboard really explains it all, Masons have been busy creating their one world government on behalf of the Zionists for centuries. Of course, Brzezinski doesn’t talk about this stuff directly, it has to be decoded using typography and esoteric codes. The chessboard is a very important masonic code, that is why Brzezinski used it.

    Daily Mail writes that “The hijab has been made a part of the official Police Scotland uniform”, yet the really important thing here is the Masonic chessboard prominently displayed.

    All across the commonwealth, policemen wear uniforms prominently displaying the chessboard, here in New Zealand:

    A Master Mason takes an oath that among other things commits him to always giving a job to another freemason when there is one who has applied. In practical terms this means that across the commonwealth police departments and judicial branches have become a monopoly and preserve of freemasons, who always look out for each other and who have taken oaths of obedience and secrecy.

    This is the true force that has been causing wars, revolutions and genocides across the planet for centuries now. Of course we have to realize that these people are also Zionists working for the reconstruction of the Third Temple to Solomon and the coming of the Moschiach.

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
  25. @Been_there_done_that

    I had meant to add that Samuel Huntington’s influential book Clash of Civilizations, a rebuke to Fukuyama’s simplistic “end of history” thesis, also preceded Grand Chessboard. This is relevant inasmuch as the essay by Whitney appears to suggest that the starting point for trying to understand the current geo-political situation begins with Brzezinski’s perspective, which was itself shaped by events during the years preceding his book’s publication. Actually, I believe Huntington’s analysis is more intellectually grounded, and his predictions have emerged to be correct.

    The key is how to wind down, which requires a level-headed and constructive approach. In this regard the burden is on Russia, because its actions precipitated the stimuli that fed into Brzezinski’s views.

    As I wrote, with regard to Russia’s legal obligation:

    “…a complete withdrawal from this occupied land.”

    From what I have witnessed, strong objections to this realization – even from those who are not paid shills for a troll farm – tend to manifest themselves in two basic obstructionist flavors, which I will characterize provocatively:

    Spiteful Chauvinists – project the Stalinist sentiments conveyed by Russia’s annual Victory Parade; Germany lost the war and surrendered; international law is irrelevant and non-binding, Russia needs to be prepared to teach those Baltic “statelets” a lesson if they don’t treat the Russian minority with respect, they need to know we could invade them any time.

    Deluded Crybabies – project their dissatisfaction with the current state of tension and reflexively blame the USA for reacting to the fact that Russia’s historically mischievous and threatening stance, in the context of decades of occupation, provoked Poland and other eastern European countries to want to join NATO, so they mix up cause and effect.

    While of the former flavor confirm the rationality of the NATO’s stance in Europe, the latter are in denial about it.

    It would be helpful if Putin would make some bold proposals to achieve a lasting agreement.

    • Troll: Digital Samizdat
    • Replies: @Cowboy
  26. Emmet says:

    “Russophobia” has nothing to do with American ‘hegemony’ in Central Asia (whatever that means) and everything to do with visceral Jewish hatred of Christian Russia. The US, as well as Western Europe, is dominated by a largely Jewish oligarchy which harbors a pathological hatred of Christianity, particularly Russian Christianity. Had the Russians embraced Western (largely Jewish) decadence after the fall of Communism, the Jewish oligarchs would have had no problem with the country. Russia however chose to embrace its historical Christian culture – an unforgivable crime for the oligarchs.

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @jack daniels
    , @Sam J.
  27. Giuseppe says:

    The pivot strategy is not some trifling rehash of the 19th century “Great Game” promoted by think-tank fantasists and conspiracy theorists. It is Washington’s premier foreign policy doctrine, a ‘rebalancing’ theory that focuses on increasing US military and diplomatic presence across the Asian landmass.

    A rehash, no, but a continuation of the same strategy to control Sir Halford’s World Island. A great article, worth a re-read.

    • Replies: @Sam J.
  28. @Been_there_done_that

    Ok then,when can we expect from Poland to return former German territories east of Oder line ?

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  29. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Adrian E.

    In contrast to Kaliningrad, the Baltic states do not have a Russian population (they only have a Russian minority that suffers discrimination).

    sounds like bullshit

    if the russian minority suffers discrimination then they should leave – it appears the Balts never wanted the invaders anyway

    • Replies: @Jake
    , @EugeneGur
  30. @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The zionists are for open borders and the unlimited illegal invasion of the zio/US is their plan to destroy America and turn it into a third world cesspool and the zionist Pied Piper Trump is part of the zionist plan and is leading us to destruction!

  31. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    US should have build up rather North and South America and make it the envy of the world. Neglecting particularly South America now created Desperate south American people, who have no jobs and no future and these people are now invading US.

    as everyone can now see, these central and south Americans aren’t friends of the U.S. so why would the US govt waste money on them?

    • Replies: @Nawi
  32. Cowboy says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    “Remaining in this territory a quarter century ago was a severe blunder. It sent out the signal that Russia wanted to maintain the option of reconquering in the future the territories of the three Baltic countries that had gained independence in the 1990s.”

    I think Königsberg is as German as Jerusalem is Palestinian, but I disagree. Putin was very wise not to give it up, especially as long as Zato remained the Rothschild army. Zato has taken over the mantle of being the Rothschild planetary war making machine after they completed the theft of the English Empire.

    Faced with this Zato blood lust, Zato’s never ending lies, and Königsberg’s strategic location, I would say that it should remain a Russian protectorate until Germany has been freed of ZOG. I personally would like to see the German army execute a Sigfried plan, occupy Brussels, and destroy every last vestige of the EU, then clean house at home.

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  33. Biff says:

    Nothing to argue with here, so I’m moving on.

    • LOL: The scalpel
  34. Rurik says:

    Faced with this Zato blood lust, Zato’s never ending lies, and Königsberg’s strategic location, I would say that it should remain a Russian protectorate until Germany has been freed of ZOG.

    hard to argue with that

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  35. Agent76 says:

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With US

    25.12. 2015 NATO: Seeking Russia’s Destruction Since 1949

    Baker told Gorbachev: “Look, if you remove your [300,000] troops [from east Germany] and allow unification of Germany in NATO, NATO will not expand one inch to the east.”

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/12/25/nato-seeking-russia-destruction-since-1949.html

    • Agree: DESERT FOX
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  36. Agent76 says:

    (Jan.1998) US history – “How Jimmy Carter I Started the Mujahideen” – Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor 1977-1981

    “Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a13_1240427874

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

    In 1979 Carters National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski went into Pakistans border regions with Afghanistan to give a little pep talk to some prospective majehadeen (Holy Warriors). In a 1997 interview for CNN’s Cold War Series, Brzezinski hinted about the Carter Administration’s proactive Afghanistan policy before the Soviet invasion in 1979, that he had conceived.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  37. @Jake

    @Jake

    “Just like the Brit Empire – of which the Yank Empire is merely Part 2,”

    I call it the Western British Empire.

    • Replies: @Jake
  38. Jake says:
    @DESERT FOX

    Why was it that the Brit Empire kept acting throughout the later 18th, the 19th and early 20th centuries to harm Russia, even when it technically was allied with Russia? Why the Crimean War, for example? Why, for example, was Brit secret service all over the assassination of Rasputin and tied in multiple ways to most non-Marxist revolutionary groups?

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
    , @Seraphim
  39. mike k says:

    This entire article fleshes out one central truth – capitalism as practiced by the US Government inevitably involves war by any and all means, seeking total domination of every human being on the planet, foriegn or native to the US Hegemon. It seeks total rule of the rich and powerful over everyone else.

  40. Nawi says:
    @anon

    “these central and south Americans aren’t friends of the U.S. so why would the US govt waste money on them?”

    And why Latinamericans should want to be friends of the US ?
    By the way, keep your green toilet paper, we do not need it.

  41. Jake says:
    @flashlight joe

    That is what is so sad: ‘We’ won the revolution to get free of the Brit Empire, and over time our Elites, starting with the pure-Puritan Boston Brahmins, decided they wanted to be the ‘democratic’ Brit Empire.

  42. Jake says:
    @anon

    Like the Ukranians, the ‘Balts’ virtually always are controlled by somebody else. When Russia does not control the Baltic states, they are controlled by either Poles or Germans. Russians know what that means: the Baltic states are then used as weapons to attack Russia.

    The region is much calmer when Russia controls the Baltic states, and that is before taking into consideration how the Polish-Lithuanian Empire turned its Jews lose to terrorize all Orthodox Christians and how Germanic states later used Lutheranism as a force in the Baltics to ignite war with Russia and, under the queer Frederick the Great also used Jewish bankers to finance wars against Russia.

    • Replies: @Nick
  43. Nawi says:
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    “Neglecting particularly South America now created Desperate south American people, who have no jobs and no future ”
    Where are you from ? Have you been south of the Rio Grande ?
    Most of latinamericans do not want to go to the US,(yes, I know…CNN/ Fox say something different …like when they said, for example that Saddam had weapons of mass destructions..)even if they get green cards for free. Family ties, our own language, good food, cheap health care, work to live and not the opposite, nice weather, very friendly people, etc. (The ones who go to the US are the very poor and the elites who love shopping in Miami/Niu Yor), …other than them, generally speaking we are quite happy among us, the only problem is that the US does not allow us to leave in peace. (well, actually the US allows nobody in the whole planet to live in peace… )

  44. Jake says:
    @Emmet

    It has to do with both. But the one you stress – Jewish hatred, at times all-consuming hatred, for Christian Russia and the very concept of Christian Tsar – came first and is more important,

  45. Bill H says:

    How many people noticed that in 2011 Hillary Clinton was saying that, “Open markets in Asia provide the United States with … access to cutting-edge technology” at an international forum?

  46. Cowboy says:
    @Rurik

    Upon consideration, what Putin should do is set up a “Free” German government in Königsburg just like the US is doing with Gaido in Venezuela. Get China to recognize it. Then they should start negotiating lucrative contracts, treaties and alliances between the Free Germans and the rest of OBOR. It would be fascinating to see how ZOG reacted.

    Oh, and most important of all, declare a new debt free currency, perhaps gold backed. I could live with the Reichsmark.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  47. MEFOBILLS says:

    China, emerged as an “honest broker” among countries in the Middle East, and used the free market system to improve relations with its trading partners and grow its economy. The IC appears to find fault with Russia because it is using the system the US created to better advantage than the US.

    Industrial Capitalism is the system China and Russia are running on. America briefly had this system from 1868 to 1912; it was called the American System of Economy (Henry Clay/Peshine Smith).

    This type of economy uses state credit (from Treasury not banks) and injects it into industry. Industry then grows, and people’s welfare is increased through improved productivity.

    Finance Capitalism came out of London and hopped to America, especially post WW2. At the same time Atlantacism and Rim theory hopped. America still runs under this BIZWOG (Britain Israel World Government) matrix. This matrix depends on finance capitalism.

    Finance Capitalism is the placing of EXISTING ASSETS onto a private bank ledger, to then hypothecate said assets into new bank credit. For example, a ships bill of lading may be used to create new bank credit, or existing homes are put on double entry ledger to make housing bubbles.

    The closer analogs to China and Russian economy are American System of Economy, not the current American BIZWOG finance capital. The historical analogs would also be Canada 1938-1974, when Canada had a sovereign economy. Canada post 1974 was converted to finance capitalism and now are debt laden and suffering like the rest of the west.

    Kaiser’s Germany used industrial capitalism then Japan’s Manchurian Railroad Engineers copied it for Japan. Mussolini in Italy copied parts of it, and NSDAP in Germany resurrected Frederick List and the Kaiser’s methods.

    Finance Capital out of wall street funded the Bolsheviks in what amounted to a looting operation of Russia. It is any wonder that finance capitalism found succor with communism since they are both pyramid schemes?

    Rim Theory, Atlantacism, Finance Capitalism, and Brzezinsky’s chessboard are part of the same thing, an excuse matrix for gobbling up the world into one double entry private bank ledger, to then benefit a special (((usury))) finance class of plutocrats.

    The “markets” that China and Russia operate on are those of industrial capitalism, using state credit. China has four large state banks, and they often cancel debt instruments (housed in the state bank) to then effectively put debt free money into their economy. Russia injects gold into their Central Bank Reserves, to then emit Rubles. Both China and Russia inject into industry, their farm sectors, and other sectors to get a desired output to help their people, not put them into debt servitude.

    The BIZWOG matrix will collapse, it is anti-logos and hence against the natural order. It is on the wrong side of history.

  48. Rurik says:
    @Cowboy

    Oh, and most important of all, declare a new debt free currency, perhaps gold backed.

    wow, you really are a Jew-hater, aren’t you.

    I think that must be perhaps the most anti-Semitic thing I’ve read in a long time.

    Why to you hate Jews and want to push them all into gas chambers and ovens?!

    Calling for a debt free currency is the same as calling for gas chambers, even worse, because at least the gas chambers were fake, but what you’re calling for is a real Holocaust!

    Taking away debt-slavery money from the Jewish supremacist$, and reducing them to having to play on a level playing field, like the rest of us, sounds like Himmler to me.

    Don’t you understand that the Jews are chosen?! And victims of hate?!

    A debt free currency would leave them all at the mercy of all the anti-Semites who have persecuted them for ‘two thousand years’!!!

    At long last, have you no decency sir?

    • Replies: @Cowboy
    , @Digital Samizdat
  49. I hate the Washington doublespeak about “rules-based international order.”

    When has the Imperial State ever followed any “rules?”

    For instance, didn’t the Nuremberg trials establish the principle that wars of aggression constituted international war crimes? Wasn’t the invasion of Iraq a violation of “rules-based international order.” And what about UN approval for the use of force. Did the US get UN approval when they decided to overturn the Assad regime. Wasn’t that a violation of “rules-based international order.”

    The same can be said about the wars in Afghanistan, Libya and the coming war against Venezuela.

    What Washington really means when they talk about a “rules-based international order” is “we make up the rules as we go along and those rules don’t apply to us.”

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    , @EliteCommInc.
  50. Wally says:
    @JR

    ssaid:
    If one recognizes that Brzezinski’s “The Grand Chessboard, American Primacy & Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997)” in replacing “Lebensraum” with “control over Eurasia”, “Tausendjähriges Reich” with “American Primacy” and providing our ‘elite’ with an “realist” and “amoral” excuse to act completely and consistently immoral one has to recognize too that this “Grand Chessboard” is an amalgamation of ‘Mein Kampf’ and ‘Il Principe”.

    Except that Germany did not send Germans into the conquered territories during WWII, though they years to do so.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  51. Brzezinski was smart (whatever his other follies might be). Since then imperial elites degenerated. Brennan is a typical representative of today’s elites: dumb as a brick. End of story.

  52. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website

    It’s been our understanding that NATO was necessary because of the Iron Curtain. Soviets took over Eastern Europe and denied it freedom, and there was the danger that Soviets would expand further West.

    So, US and Western European nations made a Three Musketeers or Mickey Mouseketeers pact of ‘one for all and all for one’.

    Now, suppose we do a thought experiment of alternative history: The Soviets withdrew from Eastern Europe, and Eastern European nations like Poland and Hungary became democratic and capitalist soon after WWII. And there is no East and West Germany but just democratic Germany.
    Would NATO still have been created? If so, for what? To contain the Soviets? But the Soviets left Eastern Europe in our hypothetical scenario.
    If NATO was created even after Soviet withdrawal from Eastern Europe soon after WWII, there could be only one reason: US hegemony and domination over Western Europe.

    Now, there is no way to validate a ‘what if’ scenario.

    However, the behavior of the US after the Cold War suggests NATO was primarily for US hegemony and not for fending off the Evil Empire of the Soviets.

    After all, Gorbachev and Reagan ended the Cold War. And then communism collapsed(or was collapsed from the top) in Russia. And Russia was reaching out to the West for friendship and aid.
    Russia was at its weakest position since… who knows? And it was totally friendly to the West. It was a tamed bear.

    But what did the US do when Russia was most pro-Western and most willing to submit(and even surrender its sovereignty)? The US expanded NATO up to Russian borders.

    Why expand NATO when there’s no more Soviet threat and when Russia wants to be a friendly player with the West?

    It’s like the moment when Vito Corleone realizes it had been Barzini all along.

    It seems NATO was never about the principle of defending free nations from the Soviets. It was about imposing US hegemony on Europe. So, the chances are that, even if Soviets had ended the Occupation of Eastern Europe soon after end of WWII, the US would have created something like NATO and pushed it all the way up to Soviet borders.

    And now that Jews have control of the US and hate Russia, NATO is even more of a US imperialist project. And this time, the ‘new cold war’ was entirely the fault of the US.

  53. @Mike from Jersey

    “we make up the rules as we go along and those rules don’t apply to us.”

    About sums it up nicely.

  54. @Cowboy

    I would say that it should remain a Russian protectorate until Germany has been freed of ZOG.

    Who are you proposing will free it? This is just an ad hoc fantasy because you have the natural sequence mixed up. You just spit this out without thinking through the natural de-escalation process.

    First Russia withdraws from the illegally occupied territory, as they are allowed to do anyway, back to its natural and recognized borders. Then, during a transition period, it develops and consolidates friendly relations with its neighboring countries, featuring all the gimmicks to break down mutual prejudices (student exchanges, musical ensembles and rock bands playing at each other’s festivals, invitation of marching bands in holiday parades, joint military exercises and drinking sessions, etc.). Consequently the population kicks out foreign NATO forces through the legislative process, in case they haven’t voluntarily left by then.

    • Replies: @Rurik
    , @Rurik
    , @Cowboy
    , @The scalpel
  55. Sean says:

    I am not aware that anyone has ever considered Syria a crucial centre of world power, and while Ukraine was once thought of that way back in the days of Halford Makinder, I am afraid now they are both worthless.

    I think you should distinguish between the deep state and the elite. The former are primarily concerned with US primacy. The elite are economic internationalists and focused on profit. Carter instituted a decades long policy mandating officials to help trade with China under the influence of Brzezinski’s Russophobia. They fundamentally miscalculated the ability of China to rapidly rival the West in productive capacity. Now the Western economies are dependant on a Keynesian and financially frail China going all out for future growth. The elite are in no position to lower the boom on China, and I think that is the last thing they intend. China is a milch cow for the global capitalists, they are dependant on China succeeding.

    Everyone is in favour of free trade if they think they will be successful in it, so the Chinese enthusiasm is no evidence of altruism or the absence of a venal elite in their country. Free trade allocating reward based on merit will benefit the American elite through their Chinese investments, but it does not sound like good news for the American worker. If there is pressure for something to stop China it will not just be coming from the rust belt. The deep state plus the working class versus the financial elite is already ongoing; a struggle to control American policy as the wealth generated by China is reaped by Western financial elites and America falls to the status of second rate power.

  56. @Other Side

    “…Poland to return former German territories…?”

    I have answered your question already. Click on my handle, and check out the comment with the medieval map of Poland: March 24, 2019 at 2:25 pm GMT.

  57. @Agent76

    “…NATO will not expand one inch to the east.”

    I have already addressed this popular legend.
    Click on my handle and go to my comments on March 30, 2019 at 6:29 am GMT

  58. Cowboy says:
    @Rurik

    “what you’re calling for is a real Holocaust!”

    Good tip. We can use their spittle flecking sheckel tantrums to decode what is really going on here:

    Nazi = Proponent of Debt Free Money

    • Replies: @Rurik
  59. 2900 words and totally worthless. The mainspring of our issues with Russia is the attitude of Jews to the expulsion of oligarchs and the prospect of reviving nationalism, Christianity, and self-rule in Slavic lands that are historically Catholic and where anti-Semitic or “politically incorrect” attitudes can put up a fight against the EU/NATO push for cultural Marxism. You can see in old columns from the Cold War e.g. Joseph Kraft on the Soviet invasion of Czech. that Jews are more frightened of eastern European nationalism than they ever were of Communist enslavement. Ukraine is now in friendly hands but nuclear-armed Russia is the road-block.

    The whole field of International Relations is a joke — like most social science — because it is impossible to discuss the questions frankly. Imagine if there were a taboo against mentioning ions.

  60. @Priss Factor

    Regarding your imaginary thought experiment:

    And Russia was reaching out to the West for friendship and aid.
    Russia was at its weakest position since… who knows? And it was totally friendly to the West. It was a tamed bear.

    But what did the US do when Russia was most pro-Western and most willing to submit(and even surrender its sovereignty)? The US expanded NATO up to Russian borders.

    This is very deceptive because we know it didn’t happen that way. NATO was expanded at the request of countries that saw that Russia was not a “tamed bear” but instead decided to pose a threat to them by refusing to withdraw from occupied territory when their time was finally up.

    These countries were very patient. Poland waited until 1999, other countries until 2004 to join NATO. Reminder: Russia was obliged to leave Königsberg in 1945.

  61. Rurik says:
    @Cowboy

    Nazi = Proponent of Debt Free Money

    gold = hate

  62. @Jake

    The Rothschilds control Britain just as they control the zio/US, Nathan Rothschild infamously said, I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England for the man who controls the money supply controls the British Empire and I am that man!

    It is the same here in the US and in every country that has a central bank, it is the FED in the US, the Bank of England in Britain, and every country that has a central bank and that is almost all countries and they are all controlled by the zionist banking kabal!

    If you read the communist manifesto a central bank is one of the 10 planks and in fact we are almost under communism, just read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and so the satanic zionist actually rule the world and are going to force all countries into their NWO.

    By the way I am disappointed in Putin for meeting with Netanyahu again in Moscow, meeting with the head satanist and one of the ones who carried out the shooting down some months ago of a Russian airforce plane killing some 20 Russians, makes zero sense!

  63. @Mike from Jersey

    Sure makes it tough to hold others to account when you violate your own norms.

    Makes sense.

  64. @Wally

    Yes they did. Again, Heim ins Reich did precisely that.

  65. @Andrei Martyanov

    All true. And one more point: compared with China, how much of the present-day US economy is even real – i.e., results in the production of actual goods that people might want, as opposed to dodgy financial/insurance transactions which may add a lot of dollar value to GDP, but don’t create anything real that enhances the quality of life for the masses?

    Economist used to have a joke: every time you break your leg, you increase GDP. First, you gotta pay the hospital (transaction), then you gotta pay your doctor (another transaction), then you gotta pay for your case (yet another transaction). All those transactions make it look like ‘wealth’ is being created, because they are–numerically, at least–increasing per capita GDP. But still: wouldn’t you and the country actually be better off if you hadn’t broken your leg in the first place?

    • Replies: @Andrei Martyanov
  66. @Emmet

    Agree 100%. Back in the 1950s my father used to say that the US has no argument with the Russian people but only with the Soviet government. In fact I have thought of a good way to frame your point: The scientific method requires that we support the explanation with the most predictive power. The Jewish angle seems to predict almost everything the US does. In fact, when I see that a journalist or other spokesman has a Jewish name I can predict with 90% accuracy what he is going to say about abortion or gay rights or Brexit or NATO or surveillance or freedom of speech for the right (against it) or for pornographers (for it). Jews are always running down the Slavs and preferred that those lands remained under Communist rule, where their allegiances to God and Nation could be suppressed by force. Current social science is a joke since it outlaws candid discussion of tribal motives except as an opportunity to lament them.

  67. Here’s another scenario that seems as likely to me as the one proposed here:

    Start with the fact that Brennan voted for Gus Hall, the presidential candidate of the Communist Party of the USA, in the 1976 presidential election. He’s a commie. He was put in charge of the CIA by Barack Obama, a red-diaper baby whose principal mentor during his youth was Frank Marshall Davis, a card-carrying member of the CPUSA. Obama’s administration was shot through with commies and red-diaper babies to an extent not seen since FDR’s time, when such luminaries as Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, and Michael Straight were deeply embedded in the executive branch.

    Modern Russia is not the USSR. In fact, the American left hate Russia. Why? Because it has betrayed the Marxist dream. Instead of continuing to be the left’s moral model, Russia has apostasized – and worse yet, shown (along with Eastern Europe and many other previous communist states) that communism is not the inevitable result of history’s laws, as predicted by Marx. Neoconservatives hate it for another reason – they detest the revival of the old Russian flag, the double-eagle coat of arms, the Orthodox Church, the old anthem, and all the other reminders of what Russia was before the Bolsheviks murdered the Tsar and his family. This resurgence of the old Russia prompts fears of new pogroms and other persecutions. For the neocons, as some wag once observed, whenever a situation does not parallel Munich in 1938, it reminds them of Odessa in 1905.

    So, we have two forces at work that have acted in such a way as to prevent rapprochement with Russia. And what has this done? It has effectively rendered impossible the continuance of a basic policy of U.S. diplomacy since Henry Kissinger introduced it fifty years ago – to play Russia off against China. Then, China was the weaker power, and the U.S. successfully exploited the rift that had opened between the two communist powers. Now, it would be logical to reverse the old plan, because Russia is the weaker power, and moreover, is not communist. Yet any effort on the part of the Trump administration to do so would immediately be met with the outcry that Trump was a puppet of Putin. Indeed, we’ve seen this already for the past two years.

    Cui bono? Quite obviously, China is the principal beneficiary of this. The U.S. left and the neocons have succeeded in driving Russia into the embrace of China. China also benefits from the effort to disrupt good relations with the Saudis over the murder of the renegade Saudi courtier, Muslim Brotherhood member, and Qatari agent Khashoggi. This is being pursued by (among others) the Bezos Post, which gave him cover as a “journalist.” This is a thin disguise for the leftist/neocon effort to promote Chinese and Iranian interests.

    If we had investigative journalists worthy of the name, they’d be investigating not Russian, but rather Chinese efforts to meddle in U.S. politics and in particular to damage the presidency of Donald Trump, who has recognized what no previous U.S. president did – namely that China is the world’s principal geopolitical rival, as well as the principal economic rival, of the United States of America.

  68. Rurik says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    consolidates friendly relations with its neighboring countries, featuring all the gimmicks to break down mutual prejudices (student exchanges, musical ensembles and rock bands playing at each other’s festivals, invitation of marching bands in holiday parades, joint military exercises and drinking sessions, etc.).

    but in reality, do you really think (((they’d))) let Germans (0f all people!) do such things?!

    Cowboy is right, Germany is under absolute zio-domination/occupation.

    If they tried to have a joint music festival with Russian and German bands in Königsberg / Kaliningrad..

    the screeching would be so ear-splitting that it’d be like their ‘Love Beams’, (Microwave Active Denial System- Directed Energy Weapons) mounted on Ospreys or otherwise deployed at the concert site.

    against the Nazis trying to collaborate with that modern day Hitler in the Kremlin; Vlad Putin.

    Not going to be seeing that happen, Never Again!

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  69. @Been_there_done_that

    I think we had a desire that these countries “request’ this, and also many of them were probably motivated by economic concerns. Also, I doubt the US gave a damn what these countries wanted; we just wanted to go in and make money off the collapse of Communism and also use NATO as a vehicle to ensure that Christianity, anti-Semitism, and nationalism did not resurface. America has continually intervened in these countries to bring about changes that appeal to our Jewish elite (and perhaps also THEIR Jewish elites.) In the absence of Communism we wanted to make sure that feminism and gay rights were not stymied and that anti-Semitism was stymied even at the expense of basic freedoms. That’s how it seems at least.
    Saying USSR was supposed to get out in 1945 is absurd. Roosevelt kissed Stalin’s ass and Stalin took it to the bank. All US aid should have been tied to a total exclusion of former Communists from power as if they were Nazis.

  70. @Rurik

    😀 😀 😀

    Stop, Rurik! You’re killing me.

  71. It was in 2007, prior to his nomination, that Webster Tarpley first identified the threat to Russia and China posed by Brzezinski protege Obama, articles published in a book by Tarpley and colleagues called Obama: The Postmodern Coup-Making of a Manchurian Candidate.

    The warning of that book was that the destruction of Moscow and Beijing, Russia and China, was the aim of an Obama Administration, a fact demonstrated by the “Color Revolution”, the CIA coup against the legitimate government of the Ukraine.

    Thus to those who understand, realize that the whole Russia Gate hoax and coup against Trump is in fact acts of war against not only Russia, but also the United States.

    The ‘Great Game” unfortunately continues with Trump now acting as a pawn, despite the findings of “No Collusion” to serve the Brzezinski British agenda that make a nuclear war more and more a potential, one where the Russian’s have identified legitimate “First Strike” targets in the U.S. where such targets are indeed the Pentagon and Intelligence command posts, such that the threat to civilization is disposed of, if such insanity is allowed to continue.

    • Replies: @Cowboy
  72. Cowboy says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    This is just an ad hoc fantasy because you have the natural sequence mixed up. You just spit this out without thinking through the natural de-escalation process.

    First Russia withdraws from the illegally occupied territory

    Au Contraire, it is you that has the sequence mixed up. If I was Putin, I certainly would never give up Königsburg as long as Nato is claiming that Crimea is part of Ukraine. And I would insist that all the ABM’s, nukes and and cruise missiles are withdrawn from Russia’s border.

    But even that would not be enough for me. I would only negotiate after Nato, the Rothschild army, has been disbanded.

    One of the biggest problems that Europe faces today is stupid, greedy Poles, who now are the greatest Rothschild puppets of all. Seeing as how it was Poland that actually started WWII for Israel, it is time they started accepting their guilt in the German genocide.

    Another big problem that Europe faces is how to deal with Poland’s historical greed and land grabs, and how they are drooling over all that prime real estate in Königberg. We know from History that Poles will do anything for Israel so they would gladly split Königsberg with Israel too. Poles also love invading their neighbors, far more so than Germany. Germany needs Russia to protect Königsberg from Polish invasion until she has shed herself from jewish banking control.

  73. @Priss Factor

    As Lord Ismay once said: “The purpose of NATO is to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

    • Replies: @DESERT FOX
  74. @Agent76

    Zbigniew Brzezinski Taliban Pakistan Afghanistan pep talk 1979

    You mean the “Mujahadeen”. I don’t think the Taliban existed at the time. The Taliban were the enemies of the pro-US Mujahadeen and deposed them from power.

    • Replies: @Agent76
  75. bluedog says:
    @Been_there_done_that

    Would’nt have made a bit of difference in stirring up hatred toward Russia, because of the MIC and all those newly formed NATO countries and their hunger for weapons which we would gladly sell them.!!!

  76. @Digital Samizdat

    Economist used to have a joke: every time you break your leg, you increase GDP. First, you gotta pay the hospital (transaction), then you gotta pay your doctor (another transaction), then you gotta pay for your case (yet another transaction). All those transactions make it look like ‘wealth’ is being created, because they are–numerically, at least–increasing per capita GDP. But still: wouldn’t you and the country actually be better off if you hadn’t broken your leg in the first place?

    Very true. It is the same as I clean your shoes for 10 bucks and you clean mine for the same price, in Wall Street world we created $20 of GDP. In reality, as the old Russian anecdote goes:

    two cowboys, Bill and John, ride their horses in prairie. While riding there, Bill sees a pile of horse shit and because he has 100 dollars it occurs to him–why wouldn’t I dare John to eat this pile of horse shit for a hundred dollars. So, he dares John to do just that. John thinks: hm, of course, eating horse shit is really humiliating and disgusting but 100 bucks, damn, too serious of a money to pass on such an opportunity. So, he agrees and eats this pile of shit and Bill gives him his 100 bucks. They continue to ride side-by-side after that. While riding both think.
    Bill: well, it is all cool that John ate a pile of horse shit but, man, 100 bucks is too great sum of a money to pay even for such an atrocious challenge. I wish I never dared Bill and kept my 100.
    John: well, it is really cool to have 100 bucks, but, man, I ate a pile of horse shit for that and now Bill will taunt and humiliate me for this. I wish I never agreed to accept his challenge.
    While thinking like that they pass another pile of horse shit and John dares Bill to eat this pile of shit for 100 bucks. Bill agrees and does just that, John gives him 100 bucks. After that both cowboys continue to ride side-by-side in full silence. After few minutes of riding in silence John breaks it:
    “Hey, Bill, you know what? Don’t you think that we both just ate a load of horse shit for free?”

    That’s the nature of “service” economy–some value is not value at all.

    • LOL: Digital Samizdat
  77. @Digital Samizdat

    NATO runs an operation that assassinates people and terrorizes people in Europe and the Mideast and is known as Operation Gladio and is behind most of the false flags, a real satanic zionist controlled group of killers!

  78. Cowboy says:
    @Abdul Alhazred

    How’s the weather in Tel Aviv, Shlomo?

    The rest of the planet is getting pretty pissed off about talmudists manipulating the weather and screwing the goyim over. Most of America is under water, Oroville is on the brink again, and Europe is under a freak April blanket of thick snow. Meanwhile, we see that somehow Israel never suffers aerosol spraying and accute weather manipulation, precisely the same way that Israel miraculously was never attacked by Isis or Al Queda.

  79. Vojkan says:

    A rather accurate assessment of the international situation. There are two ways from here: either some common sense is restored in the US or the US establishment doubles down on madness. Given who makes up the US establishment, I’m not holding my breath expecting the former and I guess the Russian and Chinese aren’t either.
    The question is how far are the Americans ready to go with their madness. Even with no Russians or Chinese in front, the current course taken by the US is leading to a catastrophe. Speculation, racket, plunder and a fiat currency are anything but solid pillars to support an economy. Making enemies of people you can’t possibly beat without them destroying you in return, in order to justify financing the illusion that you can beat them, is sheer lunacy.

  80. Yes, Brzezinski is the father of this strategy, the grandfathers are Halford Mackinder, Nicholas J. Spykman and Roosevelt’s Geographer Isaiah Bowman

    • Replies: @republic
  81. Nick says:
    @Jake

    Do you really believe that Estonians, Lithuanians, and Latvians want to be ruled by Russia? Or that it doesnt matter what they think, because the region would be calmer with Russia in charge? The problem with most of the critiques against NATO and the EU is that they almost always occur in a vaccuum, recounting every Western crime and misdeed, but ignoring or downplaying all of the negative actions committed by Soviet Russia. There are very reasonable and concrete reasons why many in the Baltics and Eastern Europe are anti-Russian and pro- NATO / EU. Most pro-Russian writers and commenters on this site will never recognize this or will do so flippantly and dismissively. Putin is as much to blame for all this as Stalin, because every May he proudly and boastfully ties the identity of the current Russian Federation to Stalin’s monster. Leaders like Netanyahu are invited to witness these spectacles, but there is no recognition for the millions – including ethnic Russians – who were destroyed by this system. Asking these countries to forget what decades of Soviet occupation was like is like asking North Koreans to forget the Korean War.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
    , @Vojkan
  82. EugeneGur says:
    @anon

    if the russian minority suffers discrimination then they should leave

    Really? Is that how you deal with discrimination, leave your home and go elsewhere?

    it appears the Balts never wanted the invaders anyway

    I sympathize with the Balts. However, the Russians have been in the regions just as long and have a perfects right to be where they are. Significant parts of today’s Latvia and Estonia had been Russian for centuries. Otherwise, how do you get territories that are 98% populated by “invaders”?

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
    , @anon
  83. “Uncle Sam” no longer “decides” anything.

    all ‘Murkan domestic and foreign policies

    now ooze from

    (((Uncle $chmuel)))

  84. “The USG now sees the minds of ordinary Americans as a legitimate target for their influence campaigns.”

    Thus The Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, part of the NDAA 2013, which lifted restrictions on domestically targeted propaganda.

  85. republic says:
    @Jochen Scholz

    http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/eBooks/Articles/1904%20HEARTLAND%20THEORY%20HALFORD%20MACKINDER.pdf

    The Geographical Pivot of History” is an article submitted by Mackinder in 1904 to the Royal Geographical Society in London

    “Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;
    who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;
    who rules the World-Island commands the world.”

    Peace will never come to this world as long as the United States seeks control
    Of the heartland.
    By 2020, the US will be retreating from Afghanistan after it cuts a deal with the Taliban.

    It still seeks to disrupt the Chinese belt and road initiative by trying to
    Start an uprising in Xinjiang and with Islamic minorities in some of the”stans.”

  86. Agent76 says:
    @Commentator Mike

    This was in my other post on this topic and Comment. (Jan.1998) US history – “How Jimmy Carter I Started the Mujahideen” – Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor 1977-1981

    I only use the sources information and never take creative editing liberties. (Jan.1998) US history – “How Jimmy Carter I Started the Mujahideen” – Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor 1977-1981ities.

  87. Asif Khan says:
    @Beckow

    You have covered just about everything.

  88. @EugeneGur

    They think that Russia got there only in 1939.

    • Replies: @anon
  89. No one had to be head over heels in love with Russia to recognize the wisdom of better relations with Russia. And it would not have required us to be any less vigilant. But there is no way to roll back what the president signed on to as an indictment not only against Russia, but Pres. Putin himself. Those are serious charges and I have yet to see even the attempt to get around them.

    Now one can blame CIA Dir. Brennan, but at the end of the day the man elected to shift policy joined his opposition and as commander in chief, that upends the former director’s views several fold, worse, the president confirms them.

  90. Seraphim says:
    @Nick

    What ever way you churn the ‘arguments’ pro/con Russia, the result must be the same: Russia is to blame. The bloody Russian drunkards are to blame. You can’t win.

  91. Seraphim says:
    @Jake

    The Brit Empire acted to harm Russia the day it was born under Elizabeth the ‘Virgin Queen’. What was the Muscovy Company activity in Russia that it had to be banished repeatedly? Demanding monopoly of all trade in Russia, trying to establish a direct route overland to Persia and India.

  92. anon[337] • Disclaimer says:

    When I was a kid in the 70s an 80s, the Soviet Union truly was “the bad guy”. They were always meddling in other countries’ business, attempting to undermine the legitimate governments around the world.

    Now we do that. I’d have never dreamed I’d live to see this.

  93. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    The only thing that would have changed is that Russia would not be in Kaliningrad

    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  94. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    Do you seriously believe any of that??!! Lol.

    Here is what would happen. Russia withdraws from Kaliningrad. NATO says, “Its about time. Maybe we can do a color revolution in Belarus and then induct Belarus into NATO”

  95. Vojkan says:
    @Nick

    They say they don’t want to be ruled by Russia. Fine. Why is anyone assuming that Russia wants to rule them? They may have been relevant to the communist ideologues who ruled the Soviet Union, but why would a renewing Russia want to burden herself with them? It is not Russia that wants a return to the Russian Empire, it is the Lithuanians and the Poles who are nostalgic of the Great Duchy of Lithuania and Poland. Given the history of invasions of Russia that have come from the West across centuries, the Swedes, the Teutons, the Poles and Lithuanians, the French, the German, is it that unreasonable of the Russians to be wary of neighbours who welcome invading hopefuls?

  96. And before his chess games they used to play dominoes, if anybody remembers the domino theory when pro US regimes were to fall one after another all over the world. Even poor Che believed that one and went on his stupid ill-fated mission to Bolivia. Let’s see how this chess theory fares and what game they’ll play next. I suppose they’re already done with Monopoly and Risk.

  97. NATO leaving voluntarily; you must be joking. They bombed the hell out of Yugoslavia so that they could establish a base in Kosovo. If Russia vacated Kaliningrad, NATO would immediately move into their military facilities there. Where do you live – Mars?

    • Agree: Vojkan
    • Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  98. @The scalpel

    The only thing that would have changed is that Russia would not be in Kaliningrad

    Of course you don’t provide any credible insights to back up such an extreme claim (only), about what would have changed, an inherently speculative proposition, while ignoring NATO’s lacking ambition to expand eastward during that time (until the summer of 1993). Your dubious assertion is merely a cynical an ex post facto rationalization, intended to justify the status quo to yourself, a reflection of cognitive dissonance.

    However, just for the sake of argument, even if your wild conjecture were completely true, that would in itself already be a huge advance because Königsberg would surely now be a nice city, after a quarter century of development and renovation, popular with tourists due to its beaches and historic significance, instead of the completely dilapidated place it currently is, just having received its first post-war sewage treatment plant less than two years ago. (Funny, how another commentator has euphemistically referred to this kind of wanton neglect as “remaining a Russian protectorate“.) Russia’s reluctance to develop this city is proof that its leaders know they will have to relinquish it eventually.

    Russia’s style of so called “protection” is exactly what so many eastern European countries were glad they finally got rid of a quarter century ago. The awful legacy of this “brotherly protection” is immediately evident in the following color-coded map, showing disposable income in 2014:

  99. @Commentator Mike

    “If Russia vacated Kaliningrad, NATO would immediately move into their military facilities there.”

    You profess to know in advance exactly what would happen and thereby, with such a blatant knee-jerk response, only expose your ignorance about international affairs.

    Becoming a free-trade zone would be a more lucrative option than being another military base. Once Russia is finally gone from that region, more bases would have no rationale.

    Yet, even if NATO would move in military facilities, that would be their right, whereas Russia has no legitimate right to occupy it, so your comment is premised on pure hysteria.

  100. Rurik says:

    “If Russia vacated Kaliningrad, NATO would immediately move into their military facilities there.”

    You profess to know in advance exactly what would happen and thereby, with such a blatant knee-jerk response, only expose your ignorance about international affairs.

    he’s 100% right.

    you’re full of shit.

    Once Russia is finally gone from that region, more bases would have no rationale.

    you’re obviously full to the brim with shit

    the military bases are not about what’s lucrative or getting Russia out of a particular place.

    Rather, fool- it’s about imposing the Fiend’s unilateral power over the entire globe. Duh!

    Only an imbecile or an asshole would suggest otherwise.

    Yet, even if NATO would move in military facilities, that would be their right,

    fuck off

    • Agree: bluedog
  101. Yet, even if NATO would move in military facilities, that would be their right

    You really don’t give up. I’m all for Kaliningrad going back to Germany, and Crimea to Ukraine, and Kosovo to Serbia, but it will have to be under some different European arrangement than this NATO dominated one. Russia only took Crimea because otherwise NATO would have set up a base there too if they had vacated their own. And Britain doesn’t want to give up Gibraltar to Spain even within the EU and NATO they’re both members of, so you can forget about Kaliningrad for a long time still, and never if NATO continues to exist.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
    , @RobinG
  102. @Rurik

    “…Germany is under absolute zio-domination/occupation.”

    You are so obsessed about this but have provided no proposal regarding a practical mechanism for Europe to to break free.

    So long as Russia remains in Kaliningrad, the popular support of Europeans for NATO is overwhelming, even more so in eastern Europe. (Purportedly one eight of the citizens are anti-NATO under current circumstances.)

    The way out of this is for Russia to finally leave and then provide a popular rationale for NATO to stop its occupation, yet by opposing this you are tacitly supporting the continuation of NATO.

    I explained this in a different thread already, so many readers will understand that your histrionic outrage is phony, very easy to see through, but then maybe you’re just deluded.

    • Replies: @Sergey Krieger
  103. @Been_there_done_that

    Pile of crap. Better check demographics of all those eastern eiropean countries that ate under American protection now. It speaks louder than those charts with funny papers per month you posted. Had you posted similar demographic charts comparing Soviet and post Soviet era, the picture would have been completely different. Demographics and healthy population is the best indicator. Poland lost almost all manufacturing base which was significant and is up to nostrils in debt. But for westerners outside appearances are more important than substance. Hence putting makeup on corpses as if it matters.

  104. @Been_there_done_that

    Fyi, Russia is there permanently in europe while USA inevitably will crawl with tail between her legs back to northern America to become very local power. It was freakish moment in history that outsider from thousand miles away managed to dictate policies in Europedue to outcomes of the ww2. But it will be over soon. And all those little eastern dwarves will have to learn to behave again. Considering all of them are broke, has serious demographic problems and lack resources and manufacturing, they will have to know their place. NATO will seaze to exist too. Because without USA there is no NATO.

  105. Rurik says:

    “…Germany is under absolute zio-domination/occupation.”

    You are so obsessed about this but have provided no proposal regarding a practical mechanism for Europe to to break free.

    when the hundredth monkey catches on, the firmaments will open up and justice will rain down upon the planet as the deluge.

    So long as Russia remains in Kaliningrad, the popular support of Europeans for NATO is overwhelming, even more so in eastern Europe.

    support for NATO is not about Kaliningrad, it’s about Russia’s intractability over the Soviet terror.

    As long as Russia refuses to repudiate those horrors, and tell Eastern Europe that if they dislodge the Red Army, Soviet monuments (abominations) profaning their sacred soil, that Russia will help pay to melt them down to build peace monuments to a future with a free Russia and free Europe, each celebrating each other’s sovereignty and dignity and future trade and prosperity. As long as that doesn’t happen, then Eastern Europe will feel menaced by a recalcitrant Russia.

    That is why Estonia wants NATO tanks on her soil. Because of the legacy of the Soviet horrors and lack of any Russian penitence, not because Russia continues to claim Kaliningrad.

    The way out of this is for Russia to finally leave and then provide a popular rationale for NATO to stop its occupation

    you’re full of shit, like I already said.

    The rationale for NATO in Europe is the exact same rationale for ZUSA troops in Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan and some 70 countries world wide. And that is to impose upon the people of the planet the unilateral power of the Fiend. Duh.

    The reason they have missiles menacing Russia (and Iran and anywhere else the governments are not lickspittle toadies to Zion) is to menace Russia’s independence so as to crush her spirit and bring her into submission to the will of Zion = The Fiend.

    Just as Germany has been brought into submission, and England and France and just about everywhere else.

    Not so Venezuela tho, so you see the minions of the Fiend, like Trump’s boy Pence or Eliot Abrams, threatening and doing their best ‘assholes on the world’s stage’ interpretation.

    If you’re here at Unz, and you don’t yet understand the motivating principle behind the Eternal Wars, or NATO, or the reasons for sabre rattling at Russia and Venezuela or Iran, etc.. then really you must be some kind of cretin, or a shill, or both.

    When Russia finally accepts its role for the Soviet terror, and repudiates those evil day when it too was under the thrall of the Fiend, and tells Europe that it’s ready to join the free world, *then* Europe will demand that NATO remove those weapons of belligerence from their nations.

    And then, Russia can discuss Kaliningrad’s status with Germany, and there will be the peace.

    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/godfather/images/8/84/Corleone_Tattaglia_peace.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101201171335

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  106. Russia will never vacate Kaliningrad or any other land where Russian troops are present ever. So dream on!!!! Conquered or not. In fact Russia might even overtly support separatists that it now keep half a dozen regions under control.

    You think others are that stupid?? The japanese for being the smartest people on the planet do think so it seems.. And it would be the stupidest move for Russia to vacate any area.

  107. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    “Of course you don’t provide any credible insights to back up such an extreme claim”

    True, but neither do you. Your disjointed ranting makes your case appear to be a corruption of the butterfly theory. Kaliningrad? Seriously? It appears you have some personal connection to the place. That must be why you attribute such outlandish importance to this small region.

    Do you seriously believe that NATO would not have expanded to the east if Russia had left Kaliningrad? Thats like saying the US would not have expanded west if only the Cherokees had left North Carolina.

    They did it because they could.

  108. EugeneGur says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m all for Kaliningrad going back to Germany, and Crimea to Ukraine, and Kosovo to Serbia, but it will have to be under some different European arrangement than this NATO dominated one.

    I am always fascinated with the Europeans who profess their love for democracy but are so willing to disregard the will of the people as well as every human right as far as the Russians are concerned. It doesn’t matter what the Crimeans think and that they never ever wanted to be a part of Ukraine; it doesn’t matter what the Russians think when their patrimony millions lost their lives for was taken from them; what matters is the European arrangement.

    So, it matters that Kaliningrad was a German city but it doesn’t matter that Crimea’s been Russian for centuries and never ever Ukrainian? And that Kaliningrad was Russian longer that Crimea was Ukrainian? It’s a bit inconsistent, don’t you think? But don’t let it bother you too much.

    Russia only took Crimea because otherwise NATO would have set up a base there too if they had vacated their own.

    Russia took Crimea for a variety of reasons. The prospect of a NATO base only speed up the process. Crimea had been our headache for more than 20 years since the breakup of the Soviet Union. The Russians felt they betrayed the Crimeans, and the Crimeans felt betrayed. There was also a question of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Russia had been paying Ukraine for the use of our own port, and in return Ukraine did everything in its power to make the life of the fleet difficult.

    At some point, there were talks about building a new base in Novorossisk and moving the fleet there. The base was, in fact, built, but Russia was reluctant to make a move knowing it’d mean the death of Sevastopol. Russia wasn’t eager to destroy our fabled city with its own hand.

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  109. Peopel who dont know the difference between the USSR and Russia dont particularely need to be paid attention to no matter hopw articulate their queens english.

  110. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Been_there_done_that

    I am sure Russia would gladly return to its pre WWI borders to make you happy.

    Or are you only in favor of countries occupying the borders you decide at a period in history you prefer?

  111. @EugeneGur

    When I said “European arrangement” I include Russia too unless you think it isn’t European.

    I know full well who lives where and the history of Crimea and Ukraine, well as much as it relates to recent events. Some of the Russian posters here seem to be confrontational, and I suppose that’s understandable as the West is confrontational towards Russia, but those in charge of Russia are far more pragmatic. Just look at all the trade between Russia and Ukraine, and Russia still supplies it with gas, despite the civil war and all the anti-Russian posturing going on. If Russia really feels so affronted by the new regime in Kiev why doesn’t it cut all trade, cut the gas, cut all relations? Obviously in the future some negotiated settlement to these problems can be reached but as long as NATO, US, and EU keep on meddling it won’t happen. I also don’t have anything against Russia keeping Crimea, or even taking half of Ukraine, if developments keep going in the direction they’re going. But long term I feel that there could be a better solution for all Europeans including Russians so as to minimise and resolve conflicts and not deepen them.

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  112. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Rurik

    That is some insightful stuff regarding how Russia could mend ties with much of Europe. It would take some pride swallowing, but, damn, I think it would work. I’ve said it before, I like the way you think. (Aside from the heavy “fiend” emphasis)

    All that might already have been done without US and NATO meddling. What a tangled web we weave.

    • Replies: @Rurik
  113. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @EugeneGur

    how many ethnic russians did the soviet union shove into those countries?

    ask the Balts if they ever wanted you

    • Replies: @EugeneGur
  114. anon[216] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sergey Krieger

    I know, they’re so stupid

  115. Rurik says:
    @The scalpel

    Thanks Scalpel,

    I’d like to think that Russians could do some soul searching, considering the stakes involved.

    I really do think 90% of the strife and hatred between Russia and her neighbors are all lingering hostilities over that evil war and the oppressive Soviet regime that Russians labored (and died) under as well.

    It’s just that their egos are so damn tender! And also they certainly don’t want to be given the ‘German’ treatment, as no sane people would.

    US and NATO meddling

    for Russia to repudiate the Soviet madness, and offer rapprochement with the former Satellite states, would be the best memorial of all, to place on John McBloodstain’s unholy grave.

    Peace between Russia and Ukraine and George and beyond. Let him stew in those juices from his place in Hell.

    (thanks for the heads up vis-a-vis my ‘fiend’ shtick. It’s just that I like a word to describe the force behind the World Wars and bombed cities and Red Army rapes and Gulags and torture and horrors writ large all over Europe and Russia during that last terrible century. And who exactly is behind 9/11 and the Eternal Wars. It really does seem like a fiend to me, but I’ll tone it down on your well-considered advise ; ).

    • Agree: The scalpel
  116. @Been_there_done_that

    You talk like a wind up propagandist. You wouldn’t happen to be one, would you?

  117. RobinG says:
    @Commentator Mike

    I’m all for … going back … Crimea to Ukraine

    Wow. What’s it to you, and where do you get off, wishing such a thing? Others have made the rational arguments. I’m just astounded at the expression of something so none-of-your-business!

    • Replies: @Commentator Mike
  118. @RobinG

    @RibinG

    I think you have taken it out of the wider context I had in mind. Well it’ll be everybody’s business if this grows into a WWIII. I’m not saying Russia should compromise either but there are other solutions to this considering Ukranians and kind of Russians (although now many would disagree with this). How about Crimea inside a new Ukraine, inside a new Russia, inside a new European Europe? But yeah too much to wish for. Easier to go for another European war and WWIII , and one gone nuclear with 500 million dead, to help finish off the white ace.

    • Replies: @bluedog
    , @RobinG
  119. Alfred says:
    @Andrei Martyanov

    True.

    A simple example is the cost of any standard medicine. In the USA, the same medicine might cost 10 times as much as in China. It is 3 times as much as in the UK. All of this grossly inflates US GDP

    “How the U.S. Pays 3 Times More for Drugs
    In Britain the world’s 20 top-selling medicines are three times cheaper than in the U.S”

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-u-s-pays-3-times-more-for-drugs

    The pay of pharmacists in the USA is twice that in Australia. And probably 10 times as much as in China. It does not mean that they work 10 times as hard or are 10 times smarter.

  120. Mike Whitney is such a clear thinker. Always find his perspective informative and interesting. Keep writing, Mike!

  121. EugeneGur says:
    @Commentator Mike

    When I said “European arrangement” I include Russia too unless you think it isn’t European.

    So far, whatever “arrangement” there was, it never included Russia, and I don’t think it’s gonna change any time soon.

    If Russia really feels so affronted by the new regime in Kiev why doesn’t it cut all trade, cut the gas, cut all relations?

    Precisely for the reasons you stated – some day some kind of settlement will have to be reached, and there is little point in aggravating the situation. However, without much ado, Ukraine is being cut off in many important areas: transit of gas and goods, military production, agriculture, transport, lots of others.

    But long term I feel that there could be a better solution for all Europeans including Russians so as to minimise and resolve conflicts and not deepen them.

    Well, that sounds good. We aren’t the ones who started that conflict and we aren’t the ones keeping it going. However, the longer the conflict persists, the harder it will be to resolve to everybody’s satisfaction. For example, I do not believe any force in the universe can now make Donbass go back to Ukraine. Confronted with the fact, the Russian leadership, being pragmatic, will have to recognize that eventually.

  122. EugeneGur says:
    @anon

    how many ethnic russians did the soviet union shove into those countries?

    The Soviet Union didn’t “shove” anybody anywhere. I understand you don’t know history but read something (even Wikipedia’d do). Perhaps, you’ve heard about the European history and know how the countries’ borders change over the centuries, and the ethnic lines changed. Russia’s no different. These “countries” never existed before and are pure Soviet creations in the form of the Soviet republics.

    As to the Balts, everybody pretends the history started in 1919-1921, when these territories were separated from Russia by the Germans because Russia was down and couldn’t defend itself, but it didn’t. They don’t want to remember that the Baltic territories became a party of the Russian Empire after the Norther War with Sweden won by Peter the Great, and that in 1721 Peter paid the Kingdom of Sweden, which occupied these territories in 17th century, 2 bln rubles ($350 bln in today’s prices) for them.

    So, you see the Russians’ve had plenty of time to “shove” some ethnic Russians in the Baltics. And by the way I do like the term. Do you speak about other peoples the same way? Like the Brits, for example, that “shoved” themselves all over the globe?

    • Replies: @Vojkan
    , @anon
  123. bluedog says:
    @Commentator Mike

    Lol the white race has and still is doing every thing can to speed up that process(,endless wars) finishing off the white race that is.!!!

  124. RobinG says:
    @Commentator Mike

    This logical fallacy (i.e. either “new” this or that, or WWIII), is not your best effort. Did it sound good in the beer hall?

    And again, WTF with Crimea in new Ukraine? None of your business.

  125. Vojkan says:
    @EugeneGur

    Anglo-Saxons are infected with the “chosenite” virus. They’re good at patronising. Not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they require of others.

    • Replies: @anon
  126. Sam J. says:
    @Emmet

    “Russophobia” has nothing to do with American ‘hegemony’ in Central Asia (whatever that means) and everything to do with visceral Jewish hatred of Christian Russia.”

    Agreed. Also the financiers, mostly Jews, wanted total control of Russia and became angry when Putin sopped them looting the country.

    Think of the advantages if we had slowly allied with Russia, all the former Eastern Europe countries and South America. It would have been a huge market.

    It’s sickening the opportunities we have lost and I don’t think we could ever turn it back around. Everywhere the Jews go they turn everything to shit.

  127. Sam J. says:
    @Giuseppe

    “…Sir Halford’s World Island…”

    Even worse the stupidity that we are doing is the World Island theory is now false.

    ”Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland; Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island; Who rules the World-Island commands the World.” –Sir Halford Mackinder, 1919

    This has changed. The true strategic place of control now is space and low Earth orbit. If you control that you can throw down rocks from orbit at such a speed as to be equal to bombs. The Chinese great silk road high speed train system could be pulverized to dust in no time if you control low Earth orbit. Their built up Island system is just a set of stationary targets.

    What would it cost us to build a space system so that we could cheaply get to Earth orbit and control it? A lot less than controlling all of Eur-Asia I bet.

    The fuel cost to get to space if the system is reusable is minimal. Roughly the same as flying from San Fransisco to Australia.

    Sam J. ‘s theory of the control of Earth. “Whoever controls low Earth orbit controls the planet.”

    • Replies: @The scalpel
  128. anon[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @EugeneGur

    These “countries” never existed before and are pure Soviet creations in the form of the Soviet republics.

    what history are you reading?

    from WP:

    On 28 November 1918 Soviet Russia invaded, starting the Estonian War of Independence.[93] The Red Army came within 30 km from Tallinn, but in January 1919, the Estonian Army, led by Johan Laidoner, went on a counter-offensive, ejecting Bolshevik forces from Estonia within a few months. Renewed Soviet attacks failed, and in spring, the Estonian army, in cooperation with White Russian forces, advanced into Russia and Latvia.[94][95] In June 1919, Estonia defeated the German Landeswehr which had attempted to dominate Latvia, restoring power to the government of Kārlis Ulmanis there. After the collapse of the White Russian forces, the Red Army launched a major offensive against Narva in late 1919, but failed to achieve a breakthrough. On 2 February 1920, the Tartu Peace Treaty was signed between Estonia and Soviet Russia, with the latter pledging to permanently give up all sovereign claims to Estonia.[94][96]

    as for not shoving people into the Baltic states:

    http://www.truelithuania.com/russians-132

    Still however after WWI Russians made up only 2.3% of Lithuania’s people.
    Their share increased fourfold under the Soviet Occupation when a state-sponsored campaign resettled many people from other Soviet republics to the newly built micro-districts surrounding major Lithuanian cities. Every new factory had many Russian workers and (especially) executives.

    This colonization was more conservative in Lithuania than in Latvia and Estonia (where over a quarter of the population is now ethnic Russians and the main cities became Russian-majority by the 1980’s).

    to learn more just google terms like “Soviet colonization of Baltics”

    • Replies: @annamaria
  129. anon[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @Vojkan

    those stupid anglo-saxons think they know anything about our history

    sheeesh

    • Replies: @Vojkan
  130. The scalpel says: • Website
    @Sam J.

    It is a lot easier and cheaper to build a missile (or other armament) that will destroy a satellite than it is to place a satellite into orbit. There is nowhere to hide in space. That stuff will be disabled pronto in a major conflict

  131. Vojkan says:
    @anon

    Though subtlety isn’t a prominent feature of their current elites, I don’t think Anglo-Saxons are stupid. I only think their moral sense leaves a lot to be desired.

  132. annamaria says:
    @anon

    Why have you omitted the relevant information re the history of the State of Estonia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Estonia

    After Danes and Germans conquered the area in 1227, Estonia was ruled initially by Denmark in the north, by the Livonian Order, an autonomous part of the Monastic state of the Teutonic Knights and by Baltic German ecclesiastical states of the Holy Roman Empire.

    From 1418 to 1562 the whole of Estonia formed part of the Livonian Confederation. After the Livonian War of 1558-1583, Estonia became part of the Swedish Empire until 1710/1721, when Sweden ceded it to Russia as a result of the Great Northern War of 1700-1721. Throughout this period the Baltic-German nobility enjoyed autonomy, and German served as the language of administration and education.

    As EugeneGur wrote, “These “countries” never existed before and are pure Soviet creations in the form of the Soviet republics.” In the aftermath of World War I (1914-1918) and the Russian revolutions of 1917, Estonians declared their independence in February 1918.

  133. One Tribe says:
    @Beckow

    Beck, thank you for the courage and added-value to the already excellent article from Mike.

    But again, rational fact-based analyses, confined to a context of the current era, continues to fail at discerning the actions of these global, macro-affecting agents.

    Indeed, there is nothing rational about suicide, whether it be by genocide, as is the case with these malevolent actors, or not.

    However, if one studies the historical documentation of the humanity-hating extremist cult, now controlling the US and UK governments (just to name the leading ostensible nation-state vassals/belligerents), one can surprisingly easily define an incredibly durable trend, and it is clearly genocidal.

    In the context of the current era macro-scale destructiveness, in military, social and informational weaponry, the fanatical ideology which would rather destroy all than not achieve enslavement over all of humanity, is ultimately suicidal and genocidal, at the same time.

    Citizens of the planet are going to have to be enabled to self-emancipate themselves from the malign grand illusion, created by the adherents of this extremist cult which prides itself on its fundamental discriminatory hatred and obsession with manipulation and deception.

    Everyone who is not completely ignorant about world and domestic affairs knows what is implied by the above… but one is not allowed to voice it, and it will NOT be published on any mainstream news/information agency in the empire.

    Until this issue of allowing the continuance of a fundamentally hateful and extreme anti-social cult within the upper-echelons, and throughout societies of the empire, is addressed openly, and completely, the machinations of this extremist cult will continue to actively drive the world closer to destruction, year-by-year, month-by-month, day-by-day, and second-by-second!

    I again challenge the brain-trust of the community here (shill go away), to develop alternatives for actually enabling the addressing of this issue.

  134. @Beckow

    “The most rational strategy to prevent the Euro-Asian block from consolidating would be to get them to fight each other. Alternatively, find the weakest link and attack it in an area where its reluctant allies don’t share its interests.”

    Is that you Zbigniew Brzezinki posting on the internet from the grave (or Hell)?

    This Machiavellian divide-and-conquer agenda is what America instinctively resorts to and indeed has been attempting to impose on Eurasia and elsewhere around the world for decades. The problem for America is that most of these nations know exactly what the United Snakes is up to–hence, the failure of America’s malign agenda to succeed.

    Brzezinki himself laid out the gameplan for American machinations in Eurasia with his screed _The Grand Chessboard_ where he called for the USA to play Eurasian nations against each other so as to maintain American’s global dictatorship… sorry… global primacy.

    American behavior in the world can be pithily summed by the following Brzezinski quote: “…To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together.”

    In many ways, America is merely the continuation of the British Empire with its similar divide-and-conquer geostrategy.

    The sun never set on the British Empire but rather mutated into the Anglo American Empire of today that seeks to subjugate the world under the pretext of promoting fake Amurican values like Freedom and Democracy™.

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