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“The Democrats are not fighting Trump over his assault on health care, his attacks on immigrants, his militaristic bullying around the world, or even his status as a minority president who can claim no mandate after losing the popular vote. Instead, they have chosen to attack Trump, the most right-wing president in US history, from the right, denouncing him as insufficiently committed to a military confrontation with Russia.”

— Patrick Martin, “The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming”, World Socialist Web Site

Donald Trump is not the target of an FBI investigation.

Donald Trump has never been the target of an FBI investigation.

The FBI is not investigating Trump for collusion, improper relations with a foreign government, treason or any of the other ridiculous things he’s been falsely accused of in the fake media. In fact, the FBI is not investigating him at all.

Last week, former FBI Director James Comey admitted publicly what he has known all along: that Trump was not a suspect in the Russia hacking probe and never has been. Here’s the story from Politico:

“Comey assured Trump he wasn’t under investigation during their first meeting. He said he discussed with FBI leadership before his meeting with the president-elect whether to disclose that he wasn’t personally under investigation. “That was true; we did not have an open counter-intelligence case on him,” Comey said.” (Politico)

So, there was no counter-intelligence case on Trump? There was no investigation of collusion with Russia?

But how can that be, after all, Trump has been hectored and harassed by the media from Day 1? His appointments have been blocked, his political agenda has been derailed, and the results of the 2016 elections have been effectively repealed due to the relentless attacks of the media, political elites and high-ranking leaders in the Intelligence Community. Now Comey admits that Trump is not guilty of anything, he’s not even a suspect.

What’s going on here? Why didn’t Comey clear the air earlier so the American people would know that their president wasn’t in bed with a foreign power? Why did he allow this farce to continue when he knew there was no substance to the claims? Did he enjoy seeing Trump twisting in the wind or was there some more sinister “political” motive behind his omission?

Trump repeatedly asked Comey to announce that he wasn’t under investigation. According to Comey, Trump “emphasized the problems this was causing him” and (Trump) said “We need to get that fact out.” But Comey repeatedly refused to publicly acknowledge the truth. Why?

Comey never answered that question to Trump, but he did explain his reasoning to the Senate Intelligence Committee last week. He said he didn’t want to announce that Trump was not part of the Bureau’s Russia probe because “it would create a duty to correct, should that change.”

A “duty to correct”? Are you kidding me? What kind of bullshit answer is that? How many hours of legal brainstorming did it take to come up with that lame-ass excuse?

Let’s state the obvious: Comey wanted to maintain the cloud of suspicion that was hanging over Trump because it helped to feed the perception that Trump was a traitor who collaborated with Russia to win the election. By remaining silent, Comey helped to fuel the public hysteria and reinforce the belief that Trump was guilty of criminal wrongdoing. That is why Comey never spoke out before, it’s because his silence was already achieving the result he sought which was to inflict as much damage as possible on Trump and his administration.

Did you know that Comey was spying on Trump from Day 1?

It’s true, he admitted it himself. Following his first meeting with Trump on January 6, he started recording contents of his private conversations with the president-elect on a secure FBI laptop in his car outside Trump Tower. He didn’t even wait until he got back to the office, he did it in the goddamn parking lot. That’s what you call “eager”. In his testimony he admitted that he kept notes of his private meetings with Trump “from that point forward.”

Does that sound like the normal activities of dedicated public servant acting in behalf of the elected government or does it sound like someone who’s on an assignment to dig up as much dirt as possible on the target of a political smear campaign.

Isn’t that what Comey was really up to?

Comey is a man with zero integrity. Did you know that?

He is applauded in the media and by his fellow establishment elites because he is an unprincipled sycophant who slavishly obeys the directives of his deep state paymasters. Take a look at this except from an ACLU report on Comey:

“There’s one very big problem with describing Comey as some sort of civil libertarian: some facts suggest otherwise. While Comey deserves credit for stopping an illegal spying program in dramatic fashion, he also approved or defended some of the worst abuses of the Bush administration during his time as deputy attorney general. Those included torture, warrantless wiretapping, and indefinite detention.

On 30 December 2004, a memo addressed to James Comey was issued that superseded the infamous memo that defined torture as pain “equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure”. The memo to Comey seemed to renounce torture but did nothing of the sort. The key sentence in the opinion is tucked away in footnote 8. It concludes that the new Comey memo did not change the authorizations of interrogation tactics in any earlier memos.

In short, the memo Comey that approved gave a thumbs-up on waterboarding, wall slams, and other forms of torture – all violations of domestic and international law. …Then, there’s warrantless wiretapping. ….”(“Let’s Check James Comey’s Bush Years Record Before He Becomes FBI Director”, ACLU)

Repeat: “He approved or defended some of the worst abuses of the Bush administration (including) torture, warrantless wiretapping, and indefinite detention.”

How does that square with the media’s portrayal of Comey as a man of unshakable integrity and honor?

It doesn’t square at all, does it? The media is obviously lying.

Now ask yourself this: Can a man who rubber-stamped waterboarding be trusted?

No, he can’t be trusted because he’s already proved himself to be inherently immoral.

ORDER IT NOW

Would a man like Comey agree to use his position and authority to try to “undo” the damage he did prior to the election when he announced the FBI was reopening its investigation of Hillary Clinton? In other words, was Comey being blackmailed to gather illicit material on Trump?

I think it’s very likely, although entirely unprovable. Even so, Comey has been way too eager to frame Trump for things for which he is not guilty. Why has he been so eager? Was he really just protecting himself as he says or was he gathering information to build a legal case against Trump?

In my mind, Comey tipped his hand when he said that he leaked the memo of his private conversation with Trump to the media in order to precipitate the appointment of a special prosecutor. Think about that for a minute. Here’s what he said:

“My judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. So I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. I didn’t do it myself for a variety of reasons, but I asked him to because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel, so I asked a close friend of mine to do it.”

Listen to Comey. The man is openly admitting that leaking the memo was all part of a very clearly-defined political strategy to force the appointment of a special prosecutor. That was the political objective from the get go. He doesn’t even try to hide it. He wasn’t trying to protect himself from ‘mean old’ Trump. That’s baloney! He was laying the groundwork for a massive and expansive investigation into anything and anyone even remotely connected to the Trump team, a gigantic fishing expedition aimed at taking down Trump and his closest allies. That’s what Comey’s been up to. Only his plan didn’t work, did it, because the ‘leaked memo’ didn’t lead to the appointment of the special prosecutor. Instead, someone had to whisper in Trump’s ear that he should fire Comey and, ah ha, that’s all it took. In other words, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenberg had to step in and give Comey his pink slip before the media could cry “obstruction”, creating the perfect opportunity to appoint “hired gun” Robert Mueller as special counsel. Now that the dominoes are in motion, Comey can trundle off to some comfy job at one of the many rightwing Washington think tanks while Mueller gathers together his team of superstar prosecutors to launch their first broadsides on the White House.

Whoever wrote this script deserves an Oscar. This is really first-rate political theater.

Now it’s up to Mueller to prove that Trump tried to obstruct the investigation by asking Comey to go easy on former national security advisor General Michael Flynn. (According to Comey, Trump said, “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”) It might sound like obstruction, but there are real problems with this type of prosecution particularly the fact that Trump denies the allegations. Also, Comey has acknowledged that Trump expressed his support for the overall goals of the investigation when he said, “that if there were some ‘satellite’ associates of his who did something wrong, it would be good to find that out.”

Clearly, Trump was not trying to impede the investigation. But even if he was, it is a particularly murky area of the law and difficult to prove. Here’s a short clip from an article by Professor Jonathan Turley at George Washington University who helps to clarify the point:

“The desire for some indictable or impeachable offense by President Trump has distorted the legal analysis to an alarming degree. Analysts seem far too thrilled by the possibility of a crime by Trump. The legal fact is that Comey’s testimony does not establish a prima facie — or even a strong — case for obstruction.

It is certainly true that if Trump made these comments, his conduct is wildly inappropriate. However, talking like Tony Soprano does not make you Tony Soprano….

The crime of obstruction of justice has not been defined as broadly as suggested by commentators……The mere fact that Trump asked to speak to Comey alone would not implicate the president in obstruction. ….

It would be a highly dangerous interpretation to allow obstruction charges at this stage. If prosecutors can charge people at the investigation stage of cases, a wide array of comments or conduct could be criminalized. It is quite common to have such issues arise early in criminal cases. Courts have limited the crime precisely to avoid this type of open-ended crime where prosecutors could threaten potential witnesses with charges unless they cooperated.

We do not indict or impeach people for being boorish or clueless … or simply being Donald Trump.” (“James Comey’s testimony doesn’t make the case for impeachment or obstruction against Donald Trump”, USA Today)

The fact that the obstruction charge won’t stick is not going to stop Mueller from rummaging around and making Trump’s life a living Hell. Heck no. He’s going to dig through his old phone records, bank accounts, tax returns, shaky land deals, ex girl friends, whatever it takes. His prosecutorial tentacles will extend into every nook and cranny of Trump’s private life and affairs until he latches onto some particularly sordid incident or transaction he can use he can use to disgrace, discredit, and demonize Trump to the point that impeachment proceedings seem like a welcome relief. It should be obvious by now, that the deep state elites who launched this coup are not going to be satisfied until Trump is forced from office and the results of the 2016 presidential election are wiped out.

But, why? Why is Trump so hated by these people?

Trump is not being attacked because of his reactionary political agenda, but because he’s been deemed insufficiently hostile to Washington’s sworn enemy, Russia. It’s all about Russia. Trump wanted to “normalize” relations with Moscow which pitted him against the powerful US foreign policy establishment. Now Trump has to be taught a lesson. He must be crushed, humiliated and exiled. And that’s probably the way this will end.

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at fergiewhitney@msn.com.

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Somebody else sure is in charge of America other than 300 million ordinary Americans, though it certainly isn’t Russians.

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  2. Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an “obstruction” charge against Trump. But it doesn’t work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein–who has conveneiently replaced Sessions– talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein’s idea)

    A week later, Rosenstein –without consulting Trump– appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How’s that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has “set up” written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

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    • Agree: chris
    • Replies: @utu
    I can see the reason for Trump being furious with Sessions.
    , @Jim Christian
    Good takes all, Mike, and they're the truth. But I'd fire Rosenburg for his betrayals, then fire Mueller for his political selections, all Democrats, most with contributor or employment connections to the Clintons, the Foundation, or the Global Initiative. Those would be a firings for cause and I would fire all their allies, too. Immediately, I'd demand a Grand Jury hearing and have appointed another Special Prosecutor. Nixon wasn't impeached over the Saturday Night Massacre, he was impeached because they had the goods on him. The endless investigations can be terminated by the President on whim. The Congress can then impeach and hold a trial. They would all look like fools because there's nothing there, only their desire to do Trump in. Trump should fire, fire, fire wherever the politics lead in whatever agency. A lot of this is Clinton-driven, too. Jeff Sessions also needs to get on board, carry the frustrated Clinton investigations to a Grand Jury, flip it all back on them and indict Comey, Rosenberg and all their little buddies down below that leaked. Anyone who leaks, lies or obstructs goes to jail.

    This IS manageable, Jeff Sessions needs to man up here, or another AG needs to be in his place.
    , @LondonBob
    Yes the role of Rosenstein and his background needs exploring. Firing Comey was the right thing to do I think, he and they would have worked something anyway.

    Frank Qattrone and Martha Stewart could tell you that you can do nothing wrong but they can still put you in prison. Trump needs to be careful and get some good advice, I think so far he hasn't taken this seriously enough. Seems clear Mueller has a conflict and that a special counsel was appointed on false pretext.
    , @SolontoCroesus
    nb. from the essay:

    "Instead, someone had to whisper in Trump’s ear that he should fire Comey and, ah ha, that’s all it took. In other words, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenberg had to step in"
     
    we know what you meant.

    they all look alike.
    , @Joe Franklin
    Put Rosenstein under oath and ask him about any communications and agreements and meetings he may have had with Comey or Mueller before he appointed a special prosecutor.

    Do the same thing with Comey and Mueller in regard to Rosenstein.

    Trump's attorney should do these interrogations.
    , @anon
    Trump should directly appeal to the American people( his base and large number of disaffected Clinton supporters)
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Thank you, Mr. Whitney. This comment and comment #12 delineate the mechanics of the set-up with laser-like precision.

    We are in your debt for articulating the hinge points of this assault on the Constitutional order. I don't care much for Trump, finding many of his specific domestic policies noxious; but I do have a dog in the fight when the Deep State tries to overturn the election of the Chief Magistrate of the nation because he might upset their applecart. He already fucked with their so-called "trade" deals by deep sixing the TPP, and then he is talking about speaking respectfully with Russia, implicitly rejecting the unipolarity of American Hegemony. What further proof did the Deep State require to set a soft coup into motion?
    , @Sowhat

    A week later, Rosenstein –without consulting Trump– appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller
     
    I missed this. Is there a refference, please?
    , @Monty Ahwazi
    With all due respect Mike, I believe Comey did release a copy of his notes to one of his friend for a reasonable reason. He probably was anticipating and asking himself "what if I get eliminated before or after my testimony"? Then he would've been cursed by the ordinary American people!
  3. […] Comey’s defenders were left sputtering that the fired FBI director had repeatedly affirmed the ‘fact’ of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, and that Comey had called Trump a liar. The President’s response was to hint again that he had recordings of his conversations with Comey, to which the ex-director cockily declared ‘Lordy I hope there are tapes’. This of course, is a bluff by Comey and his derp state/Trump hating media backers, since Comey’s entire argument for obstruction of justice rests on his feelings/interpretations of a conversation alone with the President, rather than any actual evidence of obstructing actions by Administration officials. The only thing known for sure as of this posting is that the U.S. Secret Service says it does not have recordings of the private Trump-Comey conversation. Meaning the President may have used a personal recording device to protect himself from Comey’s subsequent write up and self-serving leaked recollections of their conversation. For more on the crookedness of Comey, read this summary by Mike Whitney at Unz Review. […]

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  4. utu says:
    @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    I can see the reason for Trump being furious with Sessions.

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  5. Excellent article. The politicized charge ‘obstruction of justice’ is nebulous, arcane and insufferably highfalutin, which makes the entire investigation a very appealing opportunity to launch a politically correct witch hunt. Watch the MSM cheer it on.

    Meanwhile, the broad and well-earned suspicions surrounding the Clintons and their money-laundering foundation will be moved aside and slowly forgotten, as planned.

    Trump’s enemies will use this open-ended ‘investigation’ to cloud and sully every action the President makes. It is a legalistic act of war using the courts as cover. Disgraceful.

    But the endgame is not exclusively about Russia.

    Ancillary targets include Russia’s teetering allies, Syria and Iran.

    Cui Bono?

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    "Ancillary targets" are American citizens. (Syria and Iran are much clearer direct targets.)

    Trump has done some great things. Recognition of Fake News and the Deep State threatened a much bigger awakening. So Trump had to be diminished. Sure, he's a mixed bag, but his defeat of Killary was a blessing. His direct communication (Twitter) and exposure of the MSM was brilliant.

    As you say, ‘obstruction of justice’ is nebulous.
    Going on the defensive is a loser's game. There must be a counter-attack. What have we got? Please, if you have something better, something simpler to put in meme and slogan, let's have it, but I see Who Killed Seth Rich as a powerful offensive. You don't even have to solve it. Just get the case broadcast. Do you know that only this week, Seth Rich's neighbor has come out as a witness? (NOT a witness of the shooting, but of the immediate aftermath, police, etc. Seth may have been totally beat down before he was shot.)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62NkjW41_0k

    JULY 10 = ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF SETH RICH MURDER
    How about something big on July 10? The date shouldn't be wasted. Over 66,000 people have signed the petition to make this point. There are only 3 days left, but it could still make the 100K mark.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker
    PLEASE SIGN. Either way, THE ANNIVERSARY LOOMS.

  6. Seen from Europe the hearings by the USA Senate seem a comedy, if it was not serious.
    In my view the effort is to prevent talks with Russia, in order to get a normal relation with that country.
    At all costs Russia must remain the dangerous enemy of the USA.
    Why ?
    I suppose on the on hand the desire for USA world domination, on the other hand the fear, that existed in the USA since the 1917 Lenin coup, that Europe’s trade relations with the east would become more important than across the Atlantic.

    Antony C. Sutton, ´Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution’, 1974 New Rochelle, N.Y.

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  7. @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    Good takes all, Mike, and they’re the truth. But I’d fire Rosenburg for his betrayals, then fire Mueller for his political selections, all Democrats, most with contributor or employment connections to the Clintons, the Foundation, or the Global Initiative. Those would be a firings for cause and I would fire all their allies, too. Immediately, I’d demand a Grand Jury hearing and have appointed another Special Prosecutor. Nixon wasn’t impeached over the Saturday Night Massacre, he was impeached because they had the goods on him. The endless investigations can be terminated by the President on whim. The Congress can then impeach and hold a trial. They would all look like fools because there’s nothing there, only their desire to do Trump in. Trump should fire, fire, fire wherever the politics lead in whatever agency. A lot of this is Clinton-driven, too. Jeff Sessions also needs to get on board, carry the frustrated Clinton investigations to a Grand Jury, flip it all back on them and indict Comey, Rosenberg and all their little buddies down below that leaked. Anyone who leaks, lies or obstructs goes to jail.

    This IS manageable, Jeff Sessions needs to man up here, or another AG needs to be in his place.

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    "..carry the frustrated Clinton investigations to a Grand Jury, flip it all back on them and indict Comey, Rosenberg and all their little buddies down below that leaked..."

    YES, SO TRUE!! Big mistake to let Clinton off the hook. And what was her involvement in the murder of Seth Rich? Investigate the DNC, Lynch, Comey, Clinton - all of them.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker
    Appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate the murder of Seth Rich, the alleged Wikileaks email leaker.
  8. alexander says:

    Dear Mr. Whitney,

    Thank you for a fine article.

    It may sound strange, but I do not believe this entire escapade is about Donald Trump or Russia.

    It is about our Neocon overlords asserting their unconstitutional primacy over the sovereign will of the American People.

    If the American people had their way, all our “Neocon overlords” would be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay, and all their assets seized to pay down the heinous 20 trillion debt their lies have created.

    Rather than be held to ACCOUNT for the gigantic mess they have made, the stupid wars they “lied us into”, and the trillions they have pilfered from the taxpayer in the process…They put on this ” Comey (dog) and Mueller (pony) show to deflect from their stupendous failures and horrendous criminality.

    On day ONE of his Presidency, Donald Trump should have called in “the Marines”, and started seizing assets (up ,down, left and right) to recoup the losses our nation has endured.

    The American people should be witnessing a Nuremberg like trial, today,where all our treasonous, ,defrauding “elites” are admonished, shamed, and sentenced before the entire world.

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    • Agree: Jim Christian
    • Replies: @Sowhat

    If the American people had their way, all our “Neocon overlords” would be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay, and all their assets seized to pay down the heinous 20 trillion debt their lies have created.
     
    Agree
  9. LondonBob says:
    @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    Yes the role of Rosenstein and his background needs exploring. Firing Comey was the right thing to do I think, he and they would have worked something anyway.

    Frank Qattrone and Martha Stewart could tell you that you can do nothing wrong but they can still put you in prison. Trump needs to be careful and get some good advice, I think so far he hasn’t taken this seriously enough. Seems clear Mueller has a conflict and that a special counsel was appointed on false pretext.

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  10. Learned thus far; the deep state has more power than the Senate, the HOUSE and all members of the voting public..

    Its not about Trump, its about you voters.. you people out their in vote land did not vote for the person the deep state elected.. therefore your elected persons must go.. somehow, he must go.. and believe me the DEEPSTATE has pledged to make it so..

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  11. Why should Trump hire his own executioner?
    Would you? Would you try to help the people who are trying to frame you for nothing?
    Comey already admitted that there wasn’t even an investigation.
    Why wasn’t there an investigation?
    Because they have nothing on Trump. Nothing. That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.

    Mueller was not appointed via the congressional “special prosecutor” statute (which was allowed to lapse.) He was appointed by the Justice Departement which means that Trump appointed the man whose job is to destroy him.

    Why would Trump agree to that when he can simply fire Rosenstein
    and instal someone who’ll get rid of Mueller.

    Sure, the Washington Post will moan and groan, but who cares.

    If Congress thinks there is enough evidence here to prosecute Trump, LET THEM APPOINT THEIR OWN SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

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    • Replies: @Wade

    That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.
     
    It's so farcical it's almost funny, isn't it? Comey wants to prosecute for obstruction of justice in a non-case where the prosecutor never had any evidence to begin with. How can Trump obstruct an investigation that is not taking place? I guess there is the investigation of Flynn but that's pretty funny too. The president tells the FBI head that Flynn is a nice guy. Obstruction!

    Well, I noticed Comey wasn't conspiring to go after Susan Rice and the Obama administration for the unmasking scandal with any vigor. Looks like there ought to be a pretty serious investigation afoot regarding it. No one in the media seems all that concerned though. Yet the powers of the intelligence community are so authoritarian in nature: We can spy on whomever we want and for whatever reasons we want and then use the information we obtain for political sabotage. This they can now do with impunity because they've been caught red-handed and many in the media are indeed defending them for it. What everybody is worried about instead is Russian spying. Seriously, has anyone wrapped their heads around the issue of Chinese spying and all the military and industrial secrets they have stolen in the process? The MSM, save maybe Lou Dobbs, is silent on this.

    Everyone who is the least bit informed can see what is going on here. There are hidden interests directing a highly personal political vendetta against both Trump and Russia (these two wouldn't necessarily appear as if they were on the same side of a conflict were it not for the Deep State's involvement. Putin and Trump just don't wanna fight each other, that's all. Sounds reasonable.)

    What I wish you would do, Mr Whitney, or any qualified author on unz.com, is to do a good write up on these hidden interests. I know that many here have alluded to the Deep State hundreds of times. But who are they and what motivates them? I have the vague notion that Putin selling oil to Europe in competition with Saudi Arabia is one angle to consider. The Saudi's have many representatives in Congress as their advocates. But what are all the other angles? I can think of one that might deserve some exploration: is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs that had taken over almost all economic interests in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union? He showed them who the boss is and the Russian people love him for it. Never under estimate the power of inter-ethnic rivalries to influence politics and start wars.

    The problem is that we don't have any single "go to" article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.

    , @englishmike
    Under the title: "Janet Yellen's Very Bad Week", June 17, 2017, The Weekly Standard website has a concise, sardonic take by Irwin M. Stelzer on the topic discussed in this thread .

    It was a bad week for the president of the United States and might prove to have been a career-ending week for the chair of the Federal Reserve Board. Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is investigating whether Trump obstructed justice in connection with the FBI probe into Russian activities during the presidential election campaign. Mueller, a longtime colleague and close friend of James Comey, the FBI director fired by Trump, will be deciding whether to believe Comey's charge that Trump obstructed justice, or the president's denial. Mueller will have the help of a staff that includes lawyers who have contributed to the Democratic party. Trump has been around casinos long enough to know a stacked deck when he sees one, but cannot exercise his right to have Mueller fired lest he be accused of, er, obstructing justice. [emphasis added]

    Interesting that Stelzer acknowledges the President's "right to have Mueller fired". If so, then of course President Trump can "exercise his right", as Mike Whitney explains at the conclusion of his Comment 12 (above):

    Mueller was not appointed via the congressional “special prosecutor” statute (which was allowed to lapse.) He was appointed by the Justice Departement which means that Trump appointed the man whose job is to destroy him.
    Why would Trump agree to that when he can simply fire Rosenstein
    and instal someone who’ll get rid of Mueller.
    Sure, the Washington Post will moan and groan, but who cares.
    If Congress thinks there is enough evidence here to prosecute Trump, LET THEM APPOINT THEIR OWN SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

     

    Or, as Scott Adams even more concisely says in his recent "angry" Periscope talk: Trump should "fire Mueller's ass".
  12. Agent76 says:

    Jun 8, 2017 Comey’s Testimony What’s EVERYBODY Missing?

    Jason Bermas breaks down the Comey testimony, and reveals what everyone is missing!

    Jul 7, 2016 Justice Vs. “Just Us”: Of Course the FBI Let Hillary off the Hook

    The only thing that surprises me is that anyone is surprised by this.

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  13. A little discouraged.
    Don’ t think the swamp is drainable.
    Trump agenda will never be enacted under these circumstances.
    Maybe Trump should fire Rosenstein and Mueller and then resign, loudly proclaiming truth about swamp.
    Don’t like Pence but maybe few things can get done.
    Trump underestimated deep state.
    They ARE in charge.
    What will the people do ?
    Become more apathetic?

    Alternatively, Trump could go out swinging.
    Fire Rosenstein and Mueller and rally base and see what happens.
    Can’t go on as is.
    The death by a thousand cuts.

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    • Replies: @RobinG
    PENCE'S DAYS MAY BE NUMBERED

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMJoAO5OZY8
    Robert David Steele #unrig
  14. In light of Mueller’s early actions corroborating his status as an establishment thug and lackey, Trump should fire him, and should fire Rosenstein, particularly since he has the power to do so, and Comey’s testimony admits that the leak was intended to get somebody, probably his longtime associate Mueller, in as special prosecutor. As the article shows, the whole thing has been an effort by the power structure to continue its nihilistic war policies. Trump’s other proven faults are not the issue. Our survival and the restoration of the rule of law are what is at stake.

    I emigrated to Canada 10 years ago, fortunately being a dual citizen. One of the major reasons I did so was the Martha Stewart case mentioned by a commenter above. I didn’t think much of Martha Stewart personally, but if she could be prosecuted despite the fifth amendment for a statement made not under oath exclusively on the say-so of a government agent, then there was no longer due process in the yankee imperium. The fact the courts had allowed this “law” to go unchallenged was proof that the rule of law no longer obtained. That was a key factor in my deliberations about what to do. I also find it discouraging that counterpunch apparently did not see fit to publish this Whitney article, probably because it is too much on point and they don’t want to fully break with the traditional left, which has destroyed itself by being taken over by fascists like the Clintons and Tony Blair. The yankee imperium needs a figure like Corbyn to put things right again, not a sell-out like Sanders.

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  15. Republicans in Congress surely don’t like Trump.
    However, they better start getting on board with him.
    They are tied together, whether they like it or not.
    There is no way they can finesse this.
    If Trump goes down, and they aided and abetted or didn’t defend, base will abandon them (appropriately).

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  16. what i find so weird, is the almost immediate flip-flop of so-called progressives/dem’rats yelling full-throatedly for violence against -not just all things t-rumpian- ALL those who fail ANY trivial PC litmus test they have… their about-face on -essentially- renouncing nonviolence, adopting Empire’s motto of ‘might makes right’, and going full berserker against the rest of the 99% is too sudden and severe to be anything but an astroturf wannabe purple revolution with hillary’s puppet masters pulling the strings…
    .
    IF they were actually calling for jihad against EMPIRE, instead of their fellow pathetic nekkid apes, i could get behind that… but their petulant excuses for why they should be given free reign to ‘punch a nazi’ (ie ANYONE who disagrees with me), the disgusting shilling for hillary/dem’rats/Empire is maddening…
    .
    don’t give a shit about t-rump; but they hound him out of office, i will consider that a direct assault on my small-dee democracy, that a duly elected official is run off by hijacking the mechanisms of state to pursue the agenda of the 1% is not right, though done numerous times…
    .
    i think they might find that 100+ million PISSED-OFF, nothing-to-lose unemployed may consider that the straw that broke the camel’s back, and soros and his cabal of deep state slime won’t like the pushback when bubba gets out of the recliner…
    .
    come the revolution idiot dem’rats appear to be itching for, just WHICH SIDE do stupid libtards think the police, natl guard, military, etc are going to come down on ? ? ?
    (hint: NOT the libtard side…)

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  17. @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    nb. from the essay:

    “Instead, someone had to whisper in Trump’s ear that he should fire Comey and, ah ha, that’s all it took. In other words, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenberg had to step in”

    we know what you meant.

    they all look alike.

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  18. JL says:

    The problem is that this leads back to the same questions of why Russia is Washington’s sworn enemy anyway. Furthermore, what is Trump’s motivation in pushing for a detente with Russia, potentially jeopardizing first his candidacy, and now his presidency, with a generally unpopular among the electorate position?

    I tend to agree with some of the comments above, that this has to do with the Neocons, their hold on power and their plans for Middle Eastern conquest. Russia stands in the way of a lot of their plans. Still, Trump’s stance on Russia, and who or what else is behind that, to me is the great mystery in all this. And, to be clear, I don’t believe in any kind of ridiculous collusion or blackmail scenario.

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    • Replies: @Agent76
    Know this and it is all NATO and their aggression in the world of the empire.

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With USA

    https://youtu.be/L6hIlfHWaGU
  19. nsa says:

    We here in Ft. Meade are having a good laugh. One of our assets, a shyster named Rosenstein (that’s Scottish, isn’t it?) gives Trumpenstein a little pinprick in the back (not even a stab) and the silly old jooie tool folds like a cheap lawn chair. No wall, no tax cuts, no ending the jooie wars for the izzies, no mass deportations, no curbing the jooie central bank…….just tacky soap opera histrionics for the few interested in the doings in wash dc.

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  20. nickels says:

    Trump needs to stage a false flag assasination attempt.
    Blame it on operatives within the FBI and the upper echelons of congress.
    Invite bikers for Trump and other patriots to washington, putting them on the payroll and arming them while stating “Due to the assasination attempt I can no longer trust the secret service or Washington establishment for protection.”
    He then needs to have this army occupy both Capitol hill, the CIA and the FBI.
    etc etc.
    Its time for Trump to flex his inner Yeltsin.

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    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    It could be a sort of political Altamont you mean? ;o)
  21. “Why has he been so eager?”

    Uh, because he is a tool of the criminal elite who really run the show, which is one reason he was rewarded with a directorship at HSBC in an earlier time. He made beaucoup bucks there … they made beaucoup bucks laundering hundreds of billions of drug cartel money. Apple…tree.

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  22. @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    Put Rosenstein under oath and ask him about any communications and agreements and meetings he may have had with Comey or Mueller before he appointed a special prosecutor.

    Do the same thing with Comey and Mueller in regard to Rosenstein.

    Trump’s attorney should do these interrogations.

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    • Replies: @Sam J.
    "...Put Rosenstein under oath..."

    That's a good idea. Should be public. He needs to be fired any way. The person or persons who recommended Rosenstein need to be fired also.
  23. Agent76 says:
    @JL
    The problem is that this leads back to the same questions of why Russia is Washington's sworn enemy anyway. Furthermore, what is Trump's motivation in pushing for a detente with Russia, potentially jeopardizing first his candidacy, and now his presidency, with a generally unpopular among the electorate position?

    I tend to agree with some of the comments above, that this has to do with the Neocons, their hold on power and their plans for Middle Eastern conquest. Russia stands in the way of a lot of their plans. Still, Trump's stance on Russia, and who or what else is behind that, to me is the great mystery in all this. And, to be clear, I don't believe in any kind of ridiculous collusion or blackmail scenario.

    Know this and it is all NATO and their aggression in the world of the empire.

    Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With USA

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  24. Sowhat says:

    I feel that, despite the exhaustive process, this one has to be played- all 19 holes. Everyone is going to demand a good stiff one at the nineteenth. Given his resume, Rosenstein was a good choice by Trump. Sessions may regret his recusal but, Rosenstein may feel that his Frosted Flakes breakfast will carry the day. One should not prejudice him. Trump may have snagged a few and ended up in a sand trap but, he’s still below par and we’re only on the forth fairway. I did some digging and found that Rod’s from Philly. Just thought I would throw that in.
    You can’t judge a book by it’s cover. The guy will be a good caddy.

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  25. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    Trump should directly appeal to the American people( his base and large number of disaffected Clinton supporters)

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  26. @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    Thank you, Mr. Whitney. This comment and comment #12 delineate the mechanics of the set-up with laser-like precision.

    We are in your debt for articulating the hinge points of this assault on the Constitutional order. I don’t care much for Trump, finding many of his specific domestic policies noxious; but I do have a dog in the fight when the Deep State tries to overturn the election of the Chief Magistrate of the nation because he might upset their applecart. He already fucked with their so-called “trade” deals by deep sixing the TPP, and then he is talking about speaking respectfully with Russia, implicitly rejecting the unipolarity of American Hegemony. What further proof did the Deep State require to set a soft coup into motion?

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  27. DanCT says:

    Comey’s having previously taken a job as general counsel of Bridgewater, including a reported and unmerited $3+ million severance on leaving, was sufficient reason for Trump to fire him on day one. Comey’s due diligence had to have made him aware of–and therefore he apparently wanted to be in on–Dalio’s deranged, Stalinesque corporate culture of backstabbing absolutely everyone under the guise of openness.

    Dalio may be very rich, but he’s an evil man who we may assume saw in Comey a kindred spirit. Having a Ray Dalio protege leading the FBI suggests agents supported him, if that’s actually the case, out of fear and not allegiance.

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  28. Sean says:

    Were Trump to take hysterical pieces like this post seriously it would likely precipitate him into war with Russia. Fortunately that won’t be necessary, because Trump can order the FBI to do or stop doing things; the pres has that constitutional authority as Dershowitz has said repeatedly from the begining, so there is no case against Trump for obstruction. Dershowitz has also said anything (jaywalking) is in theory an “impeachable offense” , because impeachment is completely political.

    They want Trump to quit and are predicting impeachment in an attempt to get him to just go, but even if Trump got fed up and wanted to quit, he couldn’t now, because without the protection of office, his fortune (at least) would be destroyed. As for the Russia innuendo, it is always open to Trump to humiliate Russia with a military initiative (in Syria for example), which would prove he has nothing to hide. As a major conflict with Russian proxies beckoned, the country would look askance at scarce domestic intelligence resources being used for an old tax or sexual harassment line of investigation against the sitting president. Knowing what kind of a man he is, who can doubt that Trump wouldn’t hesitate to kill Russians if that is what it took to turn the heat on his opponents..

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  29. Sam J. says:
    @Joe Franklin
    Put Rosenstein under oath and ask him about any communications and agreements and meetings he may have had with Comey or Mueller before he appointed a special prosecutor.

    Do the same thing with Comey and Mueller in regard to Rosenstein.

    Trump's attorney should do these interrogations.

    “…Put Rosenstein under oath…”

    That’s a good idea. Should be public. He needs to be fired any way. The person or persons who recommended Rosenstein need to be fired also.

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    • Replies: @Sowhat
    Putting him under is an excellent idea. Trump needs to hear it or read it. IMO, Rosenstein doesn't have a resumè that him suspect.
  30. annamaria says:
    @Fran Macadam
    Somebody else sure is in charge of America other than 300 million ordinary Americans, though it certainly isn't Russians.

    “…the Russians did not “interfere in our Democracy” either. We have no democracy.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/15/the-russians-didnt-do-it/

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  31. Sowhat says:
    @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    A week later, Rosenstein –without consulting Trump– appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller

    I missed this. Is there a refference, please?

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  32. Sowhat says:
    @alexander
    Dear Mr. Whitney,

    Thank you for a fine article.

    It may sound strange, but I do not believe this entire escapade is about Donald Trump or Russia.

    It is about our Neocon overlords asserting their unconstitutional primacy over the sovereign will of the American People.

    If the American people had their way, all our "Neocon overlords" would be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay, and all their assets seized to pay down the heinous 20 trillion debt their lies have created.

    Rather than be held to ACCOUNT for the gigantic mess they have made, the stupid wars they "lied us into", and the trillions they have pilfered from the taxpayer in the process...They put on this " Comey (dog) and Mueller (pony) show to deflect from their stupendous failures and horrendous criminality.

    On day ONE of his Presidency, Donald Trump should have called in "the Marines", and started seizing assets (up ,down, left and right) to recoup the losses our nation has endured.

    The American people should be witnessing a Nuremberg like trial, today,where all our treasonous, ,defrauding "elites" are admonished, shamed, and sentenced before the entire world.

    If the American people had their way, all our “Neocon overlords” would be in federal prison or Guantanamo Bay, and all their assets seized to pay down the heinous 20 trillion debt their lies have created.

    Agree

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  33. RobinG says:
    @Mark Green
    Excellent article. The politicized charge 'obstruction of justice' is nebulous, arcane and insufferably highfalutin, which makes the entire investigation a very appealing opportunity to launch a politically correct witch hunt. Watch the MSM cheer it on.

    Meanwhile, the broad and well-earned suspicions surrounding the Clintons and their money-laundering foundation will be moved aside and slowly forgotten, as planned.

    Trump's enemies will use this open-ended 'investigation' to cloud and sully every action the President makes. It is a legalistic act of war using the courts as cover. Disgraceful.

    But the endgame is not exclusively about Russia.

    Ancillary targets include Russia's teetering allies, Syria and Iran.

    Cui Bono?

    “Ancillary targets” are American citizens. (Syria and Iran are much clearer direct targets.)

    Trump has done some great things. Recognition of Fake News and the Deep State threatened a much bigger awakening. So Trump had to be diminished. Sure, he’s a mixed bag, but his defeat of Killary was a blessing. His direct communication (Twitter) and exposure of the MSM was brilliant.

    As you say, ‘obstruction of justice’ is nebulous.
    Going on the defensive is a loser’s game. There must be a counter-attack. What have we got? Please, if you have something better, something simpler to put in meme and slogan, let’s have it, but I see Who Killed Seth Rich as a powerful offensive. You don’t even have to solve it. Just get the case broadcast. Do you know that only this week, Seth Rich’s neighbor has come out as a witness? (NOT a witness of the shooting, but of the immediate aftermath, police, etc. Seth may have been totally beat down before he was shot.)

    JULY 10 = ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF SETH RICH MURDER
    How about something big on July 10? The date shouldn’t be wasted. Over 66,000 people have signed the petition to make this point. There are only 3 days left, but it could still make the 100K mark.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker

    PLEASE SIGN. Either way, THE ANNIVERSARY LOOMS.

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  34. RobinG says:
    @Jim Christian
    Good takes all, Mike, and they're the truth. But I'd fire Rosenburg for his betrayals, then fire Mueller for his political selections, all Democrats, most with contributor or employment connections to the Clintons, the Foundation, or the Global Initiative. Those would be a firings for cause and I would fire all their allies, too. Immediately, I'd demand a Grand Jury hearing and have appointed another Special Prosecutor. Nixon wasn't impeached over the Saturday Night Massacre, he was impeached because they had the goods on him. The endless investigations can be terminated by the President on whim. The Congress can then impeach and hold a trial. They would all look like fools because there's nothing there, only their desire to do Trump in. Trump should fire, fire, fire wherever the politics lead in whatever agency. A lot of this is Clinton-driven, too. Jeff Sessions also needs to get on board, carry the frustrated Clinton investigations to a Grand Jury, flip it all back on them and indict Comey, Rosenberg and all their little buddies down below that leaked. Anyone who leaks, lies or obstructs goes to jail.

    This IS manageable, Jeff Sessions needs to man up here, or another AG needs to be in his place.

    “..carry the frustrated Clinton investigations to a Grand Jury, flip it all back on them and indict Comey, Rosenberg and all their little buddies down below that leaked…”

    YES, SO TRUE!! Big mistake to let Clinton off the hook. And what was her involvement in the murder of Seth Rich? Investigate the DNC, Lynch, Comey, Clinton – all of them.

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/appoint-special-prosecutor-investigate-murder-seth-rich-alleged-wikileaks-email-leaker

    Appoint a Special Prosecutor to investigate the murder of Seth Rich, the alleged Wikileaks email leaker.

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  35. RobinG says:
    @pepperinmono
    A little discouraged.
    Don' t think the swamp is drainable.
    Trump agenda will never be enacted under these circumstances.
    Maybe Trump should fire Rosenstein and Mueller and then resign, loudly proclaiming truth about swamp.
    Don't like Pence but maybe few things can get done.
    Trump underestimated deep state.
    They ARE in charge.
    What will the people do ?
    Become more apathetic?


    Alternatively, Trump could go out swinging.
    Fire Rosenstein and Mueller and rally base and see what happens.
    Can't go on as is.
    The death by a thousand cuts.

    PENCE’S DAYS MAY BE NUMBERED

    Robert David Steele #unrig

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  36. Sowhat says:
    @Sam J.
    "...Put Rosenstein under oath..."

    That's a good idea. Should be public. He needs to be fired any way. The person or persons who recommended Rosenstein need to be fired also.

    Putting him under is an excellent idea. Trump needs to hear it or read it. IMO, Rosenstein doesn’t have a resumè that him suspect.

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  37. @nickels
    Trump needs to stage a false flag assasination attempt.
    Blame it on operatives within the FBI and the upper echelons of congress.
    Invite bikers for Trump and other patriots to washington, putting them on the payroll and arming them while stating "Due to the assasination attempt I can no longer trust the secret service or Washington establishment for protection."
    He then needs to have this army occupy both Capitol hill, the CIA and the FBI.
    etc etc.
    Its time for Trump to flex his inner Yeltsin.

    It could be a sort of political Altamont you mean? ;o)

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    Well, I admit bikers are pretty sad substitute for the SA, but Trump needs some kind of loyal army in place.
  38. utu says:

    Trump gets it!

    ‘I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director! Witch hunt’: Now Trump turns on his own Deputy AG – the ONLY man who can sack Russia investigator Mueller

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4610816/Mueller-orders-Trump-transition-team-preserve-records.html

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  39. nickels says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    It could be a sort of political Altamont you mean? ;o)

    Well, I admit bikers are pretty sad substitute for the SA, but Trump needs some kind of loyal army in place.

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  40. In my view the effort is to prevent talks with Russia, in order to get a normal relation with that country.
    At all costs Russia must remain the dangerous enemy of the USA.
    Why ?

    Democrats and neocons, the so-called deep state, consider Russia to be a white supremacist threat to their Diversity and Inclusion empire.

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    • Replies: @annamaria
    "...Russia to be a white supremacist threat to their Diversity and Inclusion empire."

    Doubtful. The USSR has been the first country to introduce affirmative actions on a mass scale. Russia has a minuscule black population (university students), otherwise other ethnic groups are rather well represented.
    The real hatred towards Russia springs from Russia's stubborn refusal to bend to 1. US hegemonic plans and to 2. Eretz Israel project.
    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/06/operation-grand-dawn-post-4-ttg.html
    The Israeli Firsters are totally prepared to shed American lives and treasure in order to defend the little apartheid state squatting on other peoples' land, in agreement with certain supremacist mythology.
    Comment section: "...we can expect Israel to do all it can to derail any ceasefire in Daraa and rapprochement between Damascus and Amman... Israel's top national security analyst, Yossi Melman, expressed concern about the image of the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, General Qassim Soleimani, who was captured in Syria near the border triangle between Jordan, Iraq and Syria, along with fighters from an Afghan Shiite militia called the Fatimids, (Soleimani recruited to defend Bashar Assad's regime). "This could be the picture of Iran's victory if it succeeds in strengthening its control of the border crossings between Iraq and Syria, and thus will assert its supreme control over this part of the Middle East," Melman said in an article in the Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv. "This presence means reviving the north-east front, which has ceased to be a threat since the collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and the civil war in Syria, and the IDF will have to prepare," Milman said. As appropriate to the new threat in the north-east, and the readiness of the Israeli army is very expensive."

    The Jewish fanatics have accomplished their goal of destroying Iraq and Libya (the US helped themselves with Libyan gold reserve - of "humanitarian" concerns, of course). Rings Oded Yinon plan. Today, the fanatics see the fruit of their labor: a bloodied but still fighting back Syria, and the Russian forces in the Middle East, ready to defend their southern underbelly from ISIS that was hatched and nurtured by an unholy alliance of the US, NATO, Israel, and Gulf monarchies.
    The ziocons have succeeded in bringing closer the times of glassy world.

  41. good article, but i believe the deputy attorney general is Rod Rosenstein, not Rod Rosenberg.

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  42. Wade says:
    @Mike Whitney
    Why should Trump hire his own executioner?
    Would you? Would you try to help the people who are trying to frame you for nothing?
    Comey already admitted that there wasn't even an investigation.
    Why wasn't there an investigation?
    Because they have nothing on Trump. Nothing. That's why Comey "the waterboarder" agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.

    Mueller was not appointed via the congressional "special prosecutor" statute (which was allowed to lapse.) He was appointed by the Justice Departement which means that Trump appointed the man whose job is to destroy him.

    Why would Trump agree to that when he can simply fire Rosenstein
    and instal someone who'll get rid of Mueller.

    Sure, the Washington Post will moan and groan, but who cares.

    If Congress thinks there is enough evidence here to prosecute Trump, LET THEM APPOINT THEIR OWN SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

    That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.

    It’s so farcical it’s almost funny, isn’t it? Comey wants to prosecute for obstruction of justice in a non-case where the prosecutor never had any evidence to begin with. How can Trump obstruct an investigation that is not taking place? I guess there is the investigation of Flynn but that’s pretty funny too. The president tells the FBI head that Flynn is a nice guy. Obstruction!

    Well, I noticed Comey wasn’t conspiring to go after Susan Rice and the Obama administration for the unmasking scandal with any vigor. Looks like there ought to be a pretty serious investigation afoot regarding it. No one in the media seems all that concerned though. Yet the powers of the intelligence community are so authoritarian in nature: We can spy on whomever we want and for whatever reasons we want and then use the information we obtain for political sabotage. This they can now do with impunity because they’ve been caught red-handed and many in the media are indeed defending them for it. What everybody is worried about instead is Russian spying. Seriously, has anyone wrapped their heads around the issue of Chinese spying and all the military and industrial secrets they have stolen in the process? The MSM, save maybe Lou Dobbs, is silent on this.

    Everyone who is the least bit informed can see what is going on here. There are hidden interests directing a highly personal political vendetta against both Trump and Russia (these two wouldn’t necessarily appear as if they were on the same side of a conflict were it not for the Deep State’s involvement. Putin and Trump just don’t wanna fight each other, that’s all. Sounds reasonable.)

    What I wish you would do, Mr Whitney, or any qualified author on unz.com, is to do a good write up on these hidden interests. I know that many here have alluded to the Deep State hundreds of times. But who are they and what motivates them? I have the vague notion that Putin selling oil to Europe in competition with Saudi Arabia is one angle to consider. The Saudi’s have many representatives in Congress as their advocates. But what are all the other angles? I can think of one that might deserve some exploration: is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs that had taken over almost all economic interests in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union? He showed them who the boss is and the Russian people love him for it. Never under estimate the power of inter-ethnic rivalries to influence politics and start wars.

    The problem is that we don’t have any single “go to” article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.

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    • Replies: @utu
    is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs

    Good point but I think there must be something else. There was 2009 reset and signing of START treaty in 2010. And then everything changed. What happened that during 2012 Russian election everything was being done to undermine Putin chances? It was not the 2011 intervention in Libya that Medvedev slept through at the switch and Russia did nothing though Putin took it very hard.

    Israel is awfully quiet and circumspect when it comes to Russia. In 2015 Netanyahu went to Moscow before Russia's intervention in Syria and did not make a peep. What goods Putin has on Israel? And thereafter he met Putin few more times while here and in Europe Putin was already nominated as the second incarnation of Stalin and Hitler.
    , @Delinquent Snail
    "The problem is that we don’t have any single “go to” article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them."
    I was thinking about this earlier. Theres a lot of mention of deep state but who are they? Im sure there are a few senators on the payroll of a very rich elite, but who are they?
    , @RobinG
    Are you familiar with Lee Stranahan? He's doing excellent detailed work on George Soros, in fact making a movie. He has a youtube (sorry, I can't find now) showing how he's used gov't tax records to show how Soros is linked to Non Profits and think tanks. Also, he's leading on Crowdstrike. I've been thinking that Seth Rich is the best point of attack, but kudos to Stranahan for focus on Crowdstrike. He has good videos on this and other topics.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIxulPnVMtQ
    Just kicked out of Crowdstrike’s building.
  43. utu says:
    @Wade

    That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.
     
    It's so farcical it's almost funny, isn't it? Comey wants to prosecute for obstruction of justice in a non-case where the prosecutor never had any evidence to begin with. How can Trump obstruct an investigation that is not taking place? I guess there is the investigation of Flynn but that's pretty funny too. The president tells the FBI head that Flynn is a nice guy. Obstruction!

    Well, I noticed Comey wasn't conspiring to go after Susan Rice and the Obama administration for the unmasking scandal with any vigor. Looks like there ought to be a pretty serious investigation afoot regarding it. No one in the media seems all that concerned though. Yet the powers of the intelligence community are so authoritarian in nature: We can spy on whomever we want and for whatever reasons we want and then use the information we obtain for political sabotage. This they can now do with impunity because they've been caught red-handed and many in the media are indeed defending them for it. What everybody is worried about instead is Russian spying. Seriously, has anyone wrapped their heads around the issue of Chinese spying and all the military and industrial secrets they have stolen in the process? The MSM, save maybe Lou Dobbs, is silent on this.

    Everyone who is the least bit informed can see what is going on here. There are hidden interests directing a highly personal political vendetta against both Trump and Russia (these two wouldn't necessarily appear as if they were on the same side of a conflict were it not for the Deep State's involvement. Putin and Trump just don't wanna fight each other, that's all. Sounds reasonable.)

    What I wish you would do, Mr Whitney, or any qualified author on unz.com, is to do a good write up on these hidden interests. I know that many here have alluded to the Deep State hundreds of times. But who are they and what motivates them? I have the vague notion that Putin selling oil to Europe in competition with Saudi Arabia is one angle to consider. The Saudi's have many representatives in Congress as their advocates. But what are all the other angles? I can think of one that might deserve some exploration: is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs that had taken over almost all economic interests in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union? He showed them who the boss is and the Russian people love him for it. Never under estimate the power of inter-ethnic rivalries to influence politics and start wars.

    The problem is that we don't have any single "go to" article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.

    is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs

    Good point but I think there must be something else. There was 2009 reset and signing of START treaty in 2010. And then everything changed. What happened that during 2012 Russian election everything was being done to undermine Putin chances? It was not the 2011 intervention in Libya that Medvedev slept through at the switch and Russia did nothing though Putin took it very hard.

    Israel is awfully quiet and circumspect when it comes to Russia. In 2015 Netanyahu went to Moscow before Russia’s intervention in Syria and did not make a peep. What goods Putin has on Israel? And thereafter he met Putin few more times while here and in Europe Putin was already nominated as the second incarnation of Stalin and Hitler.

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  44. Trump is not being attacked because of his reactionary political agenda, but because he’s been deemed insufficiently hostile to Washington’s sworn enemy, Russia. It’s all about Russia. Trump wanted to “normalize” relations with Moscow which pitted him against the powerful US foreign policy establishment. Now Trump has to be taught a lesson. He must be crushed, humiliated and exiled. And that’s probably the way this will end.

    Americans need to understand that it’s not just Trump who “has to be taught a lesson”, “crushed, humiliated and exiled.” It is all those who thought that he was offering something worth voting for – who thought that they were entitled to vote for such a candidate with such policies, rather than Washington’s or “the deep state’s” choice of puppet president. And Mike Whitney is right to say that President Trump has “been deemed insufficiently hostile to Washington’s sworn enemy, Russia.” Not America’s sworn enemy but Washington’s.

    But why? Apart from any complex conspiracy theories (some of which may well be truths) a simpler reason is obvious: Russia is not-globalist. Or stated even more simply: Russia is nationalist. Most of its people are patriots. They believe in their nation – “Mother Russia”. And people who are unapologetically nationalist – like Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin – believe in the right of other nations (guaranteed, let us remember, by the UN Charter) to self-determination and sovereign independence. But such a nation, particularly one as powerful as Russia, is the inevitable “sworn enemy” of Washington, even while at the same time it is the natural ally of American nationalists. It always stands in the way of the Globalist’s dream of a New World Order.

    Look around you and ask how many of your “fellow Americans” are nationalist in that sense. What is the America to which they would claim (if they do) to owe allegiance? If you believe that Globalism – as an unelected alternative to the American nation – is a genuine threat, you ought to ask what else you will lose if the legitimately elected president of the USA can be “crushed” by the likes of Comey, Rosenstein and Mueller, and the unelected “team” they are assembling to put you in your place.

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  45. LondonBob says:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3561615/posts?page=1

    This is the true story of how Trump has outmanoeuvred Comey, Clinton and the rest of the swamp.

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    Thanks to LondonBob for drawing attention to this important article. It's the same piece I drew attention to in a comment on Pat Buchanan's blog: "A Special Prosecutor for Criminal Leaks", published at Unz Review May 23 2017. That version came from Jerry Pournelle's Chaos Manor site.

    The article is also at the State of the Nation (SOTN) site under the title: "Former FBI Director the Ultimate Inside Man", where it is credited to an author, Lisa Frank (which might be a pseudonym). It is introduced by this "Editor's Note":

    SOTN Editor’s Note:
    The following exposé was originally posted as an excellent comment on Facebook.
    There is an additional exposé on James Comey which presents an ironclad case against him for dereliction of duty, obstruction of justice and official misconduct as follows: James Brien Comey: How did the FBI Director make #1 on America’s “Most Wanted List”?
    DETAILING THE COMMISSION OF COMEY CRIMES.
     
    The SOTN Editor linked to this "additional exposé" at themilleniumreport.com
    Even if you have doubts about its being "an ironclad case" (I'm not saying that you should), it is required reading for anyone interested in "Russiagate". As an indication of what it covers, here is a list of its main sub-headings:

    AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE MEDIA
    ROBERT MUELLER FORMER LAWLESS FBI DIRECTOR – COMEY’S TEACHER
    JAMES COMEY’S SALARY WENT FROM $206,000 IN 2002 UP TO $33.5 MILLION IN 2012.
    MUELLER’S LAWLESS GOVERNMENT SERVICE
    TREASON: WHO TERRORIZED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD ON 9-11?
    CONTINUING LAWLESSNESS IN THE COMEY REGIME
    COMEY’S LONG HISTORY AS AN ELITE FIXER
    SWAMP FOUND. REVEALS WEAPON OF MASS INTELLIGENCE
    WEAPONIZATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA: TAKEOVER OF GLOBAL DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMEY PROTECTS CRIMINAL CONTRACTOR LOCKHEED MARTIN
    COMEY: THE CLINTON/OBAMA FIXER
    COMEY’S COLLUSION WITH THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
    PETER COMEY – JAMES COMEY’S BROTHER

    And this is how it begins:

    James Comey is the penultimate D.C. “crime fixer.” His many years of D.C. cronyism are profoundly smeared with a litany of outright crimes that he should be prosecuted for and receive the most severe sentence as one who is supposed to be protecting U.S. laws instead of violating them contemptuously. But when you are the top-cop in America, you get a stack of “get out of jail free” cards—some for you and many for your criminal friends.
    A review of FBI Director James Comey’s professional history and relationships shows that he is deeply entrenched in the big-money cronyism culture of Washington, D.C.  His personal and professional relationships have all been undisclosed as he pretended to prosecute Hillary Clinton and yet exonerated her before an investigation was even opened. This legal dodging has been Comey’s M. O. for decades as he was placed in high level political positions to “FIX” the charges brought against White House criminals.

     

    At themilleniumreport.com site you will find numerous other relevant "exposés" which you can take with as many pinches of salt as you wish.

    Those commenters like Wade and Delinquent Snail who would like "a single 'go-to' article" to explain the Deep State might as well wish for the Second Coming to arrive early. There is plenty to feed their initial curiosity on the internet. As someone said: "the truth is out there". But you have to go looking for it.
  46. @Mike Whitney
    Let me get this straight: Comey leaks a memo to the NY Times saying that Trump pressured him to go easy on Flynn. He hoped that the leak would result in an "obstruction" charge against Trump. But it doesn't work.

    So, Rod Rosenstein--who has conveneiently replaced Sessions-- talks Trump into firing Comey.
    Why?
    Because Rosenstein is working for the other team and he needs Trump to do something stupid that REALLY looks like obstruction, so he fires the head of the FBI. (Again, according to Salon, firing Comey was Rosenstein's idea)


    A week later, Rosenstein --without consulting Trump-- appoints deep state handyman and political assassin, Bob Mueller. So, in effect, Rosenstein appointed a special prosecutor to address the appearence of obstruction that he created when he told Trump to fire Comey.
    How's that for symetry!

    Then on Tuesday, Rosenstein was asked what he would do if the president ordered him to fire Mueller. Rosenstein said, “I’m not going to follow any orders unless I believe those are lawful and appropriate orders.” He added later: “As long as I’m in this position, he’s not going to be fired without good cause,” which he said he would have to put in writing.

    Oh man, this thing has "set up" written all over it. The whole thing stinks to high heaven

    With all due respect Mike, I believe Comey did release a copy of his notes to one of his friend for a reasonable reason. He probably was anticipating and asking himself “what if I get eliminated before or after my testimony”? Then he would’ve been cursed by the ordinary American people!

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  47. @Wade

    That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.
     
    It's so farcical it's almost funny, isn't it? Comey wants to prosecute for obstruction of justice in a non-case where the prosecutor never had any evidence to begin with. How can Trump obstruct an investigation that is not taking place? I guess there is the investigation of Flynn but that's pretty funny too. The president tells the FBI head that Flynn is a nice guy. Obstruction!

    Well, I noticed Comey wasn't conspiring to go after Susan Rice and the Obama administration for the unmasking scandal with any vigor. Looks like there ought to be a pretty serious investigation afoot regarding it. No one in the media seems all that concerned though. Yet the powers of the intelligence community are so authoritarian in nature: We can spy on whomever we want and for whatever reasons we want and then use the information we obtain for political sabotage. This they can now do with impunity because they've been caught red-handed and many in the media are indeed defending them for it. What everybody is worried about instead is Russian spying. Seriously, has anyone wrapped their heads around the issue of Chinese spying and all the military and industrial secrets they have stolen in the process? The MSM, save maybe Lou Dobbs, is silent on this.

    Everyone who is the least bit informed can see what is going on here. There are hidden interests directing a highly personal political vendetta against both Trump and Russia (these two wouldn't necessarily appear as if they were on the same side of a conflict were it not for the Deep State's involvement. Putin and Trump just don't wanna fight each other, that's all. Sounds reasonable.)

    What I wish you would do, Mr Whitney, or any qualified author on unz.com, is to do a good write up on these hidden interests. I know that many here have alluded to the Deep State hundreds of times. But who are they and what motivates them? I have the vague notion that Putin selling oil to Europe in competition with Saudi Arabia is one angle to consider. The Saudi's have many representatives in Congress as their advocates. But what are all the other angles? I can think of one that might deserve some exploration: is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs that had taken over almost all economic interests in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union? He showed them who the boss is and the Russian people love him for it. Never under estimate the power of inter-ethnic rivalries to influence politics and start wars.

    The problem is that we don't have any single "go to" article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.

    “The problem is that we don’t have any single “go to” article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.”
    I was thinking about this earlier. Theres a lot of mention of deep state but who are they? Im sure there are a few senators on the payroll of a very rich elite, but who are they?

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  48. annamaria says:
    @Joe Franklin

    In my view the effort is to prevent talks with Russia, in order to get a normal relation with that country.
    At all costs Russia must remain the dangerous enemy of the USA.
    Why ?
     
    Democrats and neocons, the so-called deep state, consider Russia to be a white supremacist threat to their Diversity and Inclusion empire.

    “…Russia to be a white supremacist threat to their Diversity and Inclusion empire.”

    Doubtful. The USSR has been the first country to introduce affirmative actions on a mass scale. Russia has a minuscule black population (university students), otherwise other ethnic groups are rather well represented.
    The real hatred towards Russia springs from Russia’s stubborn refusal to bend to 1. US hegemonic plans and to 2. Eretz Israel project.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2017/06/operation-grand-dawn-post-4-ttg.html

    The Israeli Firsters are totally prepared to shed American lives and treasure in order to defend the little apartheid state squatting on other peoples’ land, in agreement with certain supremacist mythology.
    Comment section: “…we can expect Israel to do all it can to derail any ceasefire in Daraa and rapprochement between Damascus and Amman… Israel’s top national security analyst, Yossi Melman, expressed concern about the image of the commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, General Qassim Soleimani, who was captured in Syria near the border triangle between Jordan, Iraq and Syria, along with fighters from an Afghan Shiite militia called the Fatimids, (Soleimani recruited to defend Bashar Assad’s regime). “This could be the picture of Iran’s victory if it succeeds in strengthening its control of the border crossings between Iraq and Syria, and thus will assert its supreme control over this part of the Middle East,” Melman said in an article in the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv. “This presence means reviving the north-east front, which has ceased to be a threat since the collapse of Saddam Hussein’s regime in Iraq and the civil war in Syria, and the IDF will have to prepare,” Milman said. As appropriate to the new threat in the north-east, and the readiness of the Israeli army is very expensive.”

    The Jewish fanatics have accomplished their goal of destroying Iraq and Libya (the US helped themselves with Libyan gold reserve – of “humanitarian” concerns, of course). Rings Oded Yinon plan. Today, the fanatics see the fruit of their labor: a bloodied but still fighting back Syria, and the Russian forces in the Middle East, ready to defend their southern underbelly from ISIS that was hatched and nurtured by an unholy alliance of the US, NATO, Israel, and Gulf monarchies.
    The ziocons have succeeded in bringing closer the times of glassy world.

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  49. @Mike Whitney
    Why should Trump hire his own executioner?
    Would you? Would you try to help the people who are trying to frame you for nothing?
    Comey already admitted that there wasn't even an investigation.
    Why wasn't there an investigation?
    Because they have nothing on Trump. Nothing. That's why Comey "the waterboarder" agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.

    Mueller was not appointed via the congressional "special prosecutor" statute (which was allowed to lapse.) He was appointed by the Justice Departement which means that Trump appointed the man whose job is to destroy him.

    Why would Trump agree to that when he can simply fire Rosenstein
    and instal someone who'll get rid of Mueller.

    Sure, the Washington Post will moan and groan, but who cares.

    If Congress thinks there is enough evidence here to prosecute Trump, LET THEM APPOINT THEIR OWN SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

    Under the title: “Janet Yellen’s Very Bad Week”, June 17, 2017, The Weekly Standard website has a concise, sardonic take by Irwin M. Stelzer on the topic discussed in this thread .

    It was a bad week for the president of the United States and might prove to have been a career-ending week for the chair of the Federal Reserve Board. Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is investigating whether Trump obstructed justice in connection with the FBI probe into Russian activities during the presidential election campaign. Mueller, a longtime colleague and close friend of James Comey, the FBI director fired by Trump, will be deciding whether to believe Comey’s charge that Trump obstructed justice, or the president’s denial. Mueller will have the help of a staff that includes lawyers who have contributed to the Democratic party. Trump has been around casinos long enough to know a stacked deck when he sees one, but cannot exercise his right to have Mueller fired lest he be accused of, er, obstructing justice. [emphasis added]

    Interesting that Stelzer acknowledges the President’s “right to have Mueller fired”. If so, then of course President Trump can “exercise his right”, as Mike Whitney explains at the conclusion of his Comment 12 (above):

    Mueller was not appointed via the congressional “special prosecutor” statute (which was allowed to lapse.) He was appointed by the Justice Departement which means that Trump appointed the man whose job is to destroy him.
    Why would Trump agree to that when he can simply fire Rosenstein
    and instal someone who’ll get rid of Mueller.
    Sure, the Washington Post will moan and groan, but who cares.
    If Congress thinks there is enough evidence here to prosecute Trump, LET THEM APPOINT THEIR OWN SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

    Or, as Scott Adams even more concisely says in his recent “angry” Periscope talk: Trump should “fire Mueller’s ass”.

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  50. mcohen says:

    So what is your point.ode to yinun of greater israel.you must be kidding

    .do you honestly believe that political islam backed by oil financing was not anticipated a 100 years ago.
    Europe has been fighting these wars for centuries.
    Iranian revolutionaries choose the path of political islam after the shah.it was there way of using relegion to gain support for there project.

    Political islam will make enemies where none were for the simple reason that it will bring about an equal and opposing response in other relegions.

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  51. RobinG says:
    @Wade

    That’s why Comey “the waterboarder” agreed to frame him on the obstruction charge. Because they have Nothing.
     
    It's so farcical it's almost funny, isn't it? Comey wants to prosecute for obstruction of justice in a non-case where the prosecutor never had any evidence to begin with. How can Trump obstruct an investigation that is not taking place? I guess there is the investigation of Flynn but that's pretty funny too. The president tells the FBI head that Flynn is a nice guy. Obstruction!

    Well, I noticed Comey wasn't conspiring to go after Susan Rice and the Obama administration for the unmasking scandal with any vigor. Looks like there ought to be a pretty serious investigation afoot regarding it. No one in the media seems all that concerned though. Yet the powers of the intelligence community are so authoritarian in nature: We can spy on whomever we want and for whatever reasons we want and then use the information we obtain for political sabotage. This they can now do with impunity because they've been caught red-handed and many in the media are indeed defending them for it. What everybody is worried about instead is Russian spying. Seriously, has anyone wrapped their heads around the issue of Chinese spying and all the military and industrial secrets they have stolen in the process? The MSM, save maybe Lou Dobbs, is silent on this.

    Everyone who is the least bit informed can see what is going on here. There are hidden interests directing a highly personal political vendetta against both Trump and Russia (these two wouldn't necessarily appear as if they were on the same side of a conflict were it not for the Deep State's involvement. Putin and Trump just don't wanna fight each other, that's all. Sounds reasonable.)

    What I wish you would do, Mr Whitney, or any qualified author on unz.com, is to do a good write up on these hidden interests. I know that many here have alluded to the Deep State hundreds of times. But who are they and what motivates them? I have the vague notion that Putin selling oil to Europe in competition with Saudi Arabia is one angle to consider. The Saudi's have many representatives in Congress as their advocates. But what are all the other angles? I can think of one that might deserve some exploration: is there perhaps a Jewish animus against Putin for his having wrangled all the power away from the 12 infamous oligarchs that had taken over almost all economic interests in Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union? He showed them who the boss is and the Russian people love him for it. Never under estimate the power of inter-ethnic rivalries to influence politics and start wars.

    The problem is that we don't have any single "go to" article on this subject that is both comprehensive and specific: Name names of Deep State actors and who they represent. What are the interests of those both in and behind the Deep State. Is it the Murdochs? Koch Brothers? If our republic is to fight back against this system, the people need tangible details about who and what the Deep State is and vivid illustrations of what motivates them.

    Are you familiar with Lee Stranahan? He’s doing excellent detailed work on George Soros, in fact making a movie. He has a youtube (sorry, I can’t find now) showing how he’s used gov’t tax records to show how Soros is linked to Non Profits and think tanks. Also, he’s leading on Crowdstrike. I’ve been thinking that Seth Rich is the best point of attack, but kudos to Stranahan for focus on Crowdstrike. He has good videos on this and other topics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIxulPnVMtQ

    Just kicked out of Crowdstrike’s building.

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  52. @LondonBob
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3561615/posts?page=1

    This is the true story of how Trump has outmanoeuvred Comey, Clinton and the rest of the swamp.

    Thanks to LondonBob for drawing attention to this important article. It’s the same piece I drew attention to in a comment on Pat Buchanan’s blog: “A Special Prosecutor for Criminal Leaks”, published at Unz Review May 23 2017. That version came from Jerry Pournelle’s Chaos Manor site.

    The article is also at the State of the Nation (SOTN) site under the title: “Former FBI Director the Ultimate Inside Man”, where it is credited to an author, Lisa Frank (which might be a pseudonym). It is introduced by this “Editor’s Note”:

    SOTN Editor’s Note:
    The following exposé was originally posted as an excellent comment on Facebook.
    There is an additional exposé on James Comey which presents an ironclad case against him for dereliction of duty, obstruction of justice and official misconduct as follows: James Brien Comey: How did the FBI Director make #1 on America’s “Most Wanted List”?
    DETAILING THE COMMISSION OF COMEY CRIMES.

    The SOTN Editor linked to this “additional exposé” at themilleniumreport.com
    Even if you have doubts about its being “an ironclad case” (I’m not saying that you should), it is required reading for anyone interested in “Russiagate”. As an indication of what it covers, here is a list of its main sub-headings:

    AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE MEDIA
    ROBERT MUELLER FORMER LAWLESS FBI DIRECTOR – COMEY’S TEACHER
    JAMES COMEY’S SALARY WENT FROM $206,000 IN 2002 UP TO $33.5 MILLION IN 2012.
    MUELLER’S LAWLESS GOVERNMENT SERVICE
    TREASON: WHO TERRORIZED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD ON 9-11?
    CONTINUING LAWLESSNESS IN THE COMEY REGIME
    COMEY’S LONG HISTORY AS AN ELITE FIXER
    SWAMP FOUND. REVEALS WEAPON OF MASS INTELLIGENCE
    WEAPONIZATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA: TAKEOVER OF GLOBAL DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMEY PROTECTS CRIMINAL CONTRACTOR LOCKHEED MARTIN
    COMEY: THE CLINTON/OBAMA FIXER
    COMEY’S COLLUSION WITH THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
    PETER COMEY – JAMES COMEY’S BROTHER

    And this is how it begins:

    James Comey is the penultimate D.C. “crime fixer.” His many years of D.C. cronyism are profoundly smeared with a litany of outright crimes that he should be prosecuted for and receive the most severe sentence as one who is supposed to be protecting U.S. laws instead of violating them contemptuously. But when you are the top-cop in America, you get a stack of “get out of jail free” cards—some for you and many for your criminal friends.
    A review of FBI Director James Comey’s professional history and relationships shows that he is deeply entrenched in the big-money cronyism culture of Washington, D.C.  His personal and professional relationships have all been undisclosed as he pretended to prosecute Hillary Clinton and yet exonerated her before an investigation was even opened. This legal dodging has been Comey’s M. O. for decades as he was placed in high level political positions to “FIX” the charges brought against White House criminals.

    At themilleniumreport.com site you will find numerous other relevant “exposés” which you can take with as many pinches of salt as you wish.

    Those commenters like Wade and Delinquent Snail who would like “a single ‘go-to’ article” to explain the Deep State might as well wish for the Second Coming to arrive early. There is plenty to feed their initial curiosity on the internet. As someone said: “the truth is out there”. But you have to go looking for it.

    Read More
    • Replies: @RobinG
    VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION OF DEEP STATE

    Dogged researcher Lee Stranahan shows his proofs step-by-step. This is about Comey, Crowdstrike, George Soros, the Atlantic Council.
    Towards the end, his Deep State explanation is succinct.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDoSxp4Oxss
    MIND BLOWN: The group behind the Trump witch hunt, Jack Posobiec
    , @RobinG
    And from about 10min., Deep State explained. The point of both explanations, it's NOT bureaucrats/career civil servants. And the military, think-tanks, and elected officials (with a very few exceptions) are only the tools of the real operators.

    https://www.generosity.com/education-fundraising/unrig-summer-of-peace
    #UNRIG: Summer of Peace

    Cynthia McKinney and Robert Steele are leading this project [#UNRIG, Beyond Trump and Sanders] to restore integrity.
  53. RobinG says:
    @englishmike
    Thanks to LondonBob for drawing attention to this important article. It's the same piece I drew attention to in a comment on Pat Buchanan's blog: "A Special Prosecutor for Criminal Leaks", published at Unz Review May 23 2017. That version came from Jerry Pournelle's Chaos Manor site.

    The article is also at the State of the Nation (SOTN) site under the title: "Former FBI Director the Ultimate Inside Man", where it is credited to an author, Lisa Frank (which might be a pseudonym). It is introduced by this "Editor's Note":

    SOTN Editor’s Note:
    The following exposé was originally posted as an excellent comment on Facebook.
    There is an additional exposé on James Comey which presents an ironclad case against him for dereliction of duty, obstruction of justice and official misconduct as follows: James Brien Comey: How did the FBI Director make #1 on America’s “Most Wanted List”?
    DETAILING THE COMMISSION OF COMEY CRIMES.
     
    The SOTN Editor linked to this "additional exposé" at themilleniumreport.com
    Even if you have doubts about its being "an ironclad case" (I'm not saying that you should), it is required reading for anyone interested in "Russiagate". As an indication of what it covers, here is a list of its main sub-headings:

    AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE MEDIA
    ROBERT MUELLER FORMER LAWLESS FBI DIRECTOR – COMEY’S TEACHER
    JAMES COMEY’S SALARY WENT FROM $206,000 IN 2002 UP TO $33.5 MILLION IN 2012.
    MUELLER’S LAWLESS GOVERNMENT SERVICE
    TREASON: WHO TERRORIZED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD ON 9-11?
    CONTINUING LAWLESSNESS IN THE COMEY REGIME
    COMEY’S LONG HISTORY AS AN ELITE FIXER
    SWAMP FOUND. REVEALS WEAPON OF MASS INTELLIGENCE
    WEAPONIZATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA: TAKEOVER OF GLOBAL DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMEY PROTECTS CRIMINAL CONTRACTOR LOCKHEED MARTIN
    COMEY: THE CLINTON/OBAMA FIXER
    COMEY’S COLLUSION WITH THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
    PETER COMEY – JAMES COMEY’S BROTHER

    And this is how it begins:

    James Comey is the penultimate D.C. “crime fixer.” His many years of D.C. cronyism are profoundly smeared with a litany of outright crimes that he should be prosecuted for and receive the most severe sentence as one who is supposed to be protecting U.S. laws instead of violating them contemptuously. But when you are the top-cop in America, you get a stack of “get out of jail free” cards—some for you and many for your criminal friends.
    A review of FBI Director James Comey’s professional history and relationships shows that he is deeply entrenched in the big-money cronyism culture of Washington, D.C.  His personal and professional relationships have all been undisclosed as he pretended to prosecute Hillary Clinton and yet exonerated her before an investigation was even opened. This legal dodging has been Comey’s M. O. for decades as he was placed in high level political positions to “FIX” the charges brought against White House criminals.

     

    At themilleniumreport.com site you will find numerous other relevant "exposés" which you can take with as many pinches of salt as you wish.

    Those commenters like Wade and Delinquent Snail who would like "a single 'go-to' article" to explain the Deep State might as well wish for the Second Coming to arrive early. There is plenty to feed their initial curiosity on the internet. As someone said: "the truth is out there". But you have to go looking for it.

    VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION OF DEEP STATE

    Dogged researcher Lee Stranahan shows his proofs step-by-step. This is about Comey, Crowdstrike, George Soros, the Atlantic Council.
    Towards the end, his Deep State explanation is succinct.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDoSxp4Oxss

    MIND BLOWN: The group behind the Trump witch hunt, Jack Posobiec

    Read More
  54. RobinG says:
    @englishmike
    Thanks to LondonBob for drawing attention to this important article. It's the same piece I drew attention to in a comment on Pat Buchanan's blog: "A Special Prosecutor for Criminal Leaks", published at Unz Review May 23 2017. That version came from Jerry Pournelle's Chaos Manor site.

    The article is also at the State of the Nation (SOTN) site under the title: "Former FBI Director the Ultimate Inside Man", where it is credited to an author, Lisa Frank (which might be a pseudonym). It is introduced by this "Editor's Note":

    SOTN Editor’s Note:
    The following exposé was originally posted as an excellent comment on Facebook.
    There is an additional exposé on James Comey which presents an ironclad case against him for dereliction of duty, obstruction of justice and official misconduct as follows: James Brien Comey: How did the FBI Director make #1 on America’s “Most Wanted List”?
    DETAILING THE COMMISSION OF COMEY CRIMES.
     
    The SOTN Editor linked to this "additional exposé" at themilleniumreport.com
    Even if you have doubts about its being "an ironclad case" (I'm not saying that you should), it is required reading for anyone interested in "Russiagate". As an indication of what it covers, here is a list of its main sub-headings:

    AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE MEDIA
    ROBERT MUELLER FORMER LAWLESS FBI DIRECTOR – COMEY’S TEACHER
    JAMES COMEY’S SALARY WENT FROM $206,000 IN 2002 UP TO $33.5 MILLION IN 2012.
    MUELLER’S LAWLESS GOVERNMENT SERVICE
    TREASON: WHO TERRORIZED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD ON 9-11?
    CONTINUING LAWLESSNESS IN THE COMEY REGIME
    COMEY’S LONG HISTORY AS AN ELITE FIXER
    SWAMP FOUND. REVEALS WEAPON OF MASS INTELLIGENCE
    WEAPONIZATION OF SOCIAL MEDIA: TAKEOVER OF GLOBAL DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMEY PROTECTS CRIMINAL CONTRACTOR LOCKHEED MARTIN
    COMEY: THE CLINTON/OBAMA FIXER
    COMEY’S COLLUSION WITH THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
    PETER COMEY – JAMES COMEY’S BROTHER

    And this is how it begins:

    James Comey is the penultimate D.C. “crime fixer.” His many years of D.C. cronyism are profoundly smeared with a litany of outright crimes that he should be prosecuted for and receive the most severe sentence as one who is supposed to be protecting U.S. laws instead of violating them contemptuously. But when you are the top-cop in America, you get a stack of “get out of jail free” cards—some for you and many for your criminal friends.
    A review of FBI Director James Comey’s professional history and relationships shows that he is deeply entrenched in the big-money cronyism culture of Washington, D.C.  His personal and professional relationships have all been undisclosed as he pretended to prosecute Hillary Clinton and yet exonerated her before an investigation was even opened. This legal dodging has been Comey’s M. O. for decades as he was placed in high level political positions to “FIX” the charges brought against White House criminals.

     

    At themilleniumreport.com site you will find numerous other relevant "exposés" which you can take with as many pinches of salt as you wish.

    Those commenters like Wade and Delinquent Snail who would like "a single 'go-to' article" to explain the Deep State might as well wish for the Second Coming to arrive early. There is plenty to feed their initial curiosity on the internet. As someone said: "the truth is out there". But you have to go looking for it.

    And from about 10min., Deep State explained. The point of both explanations, it’s NOT bureaucrats/career civil servants. And the military, think-tanks, and elected officials (with a very few exceptions) are only the tools of the real operators.

    https://www.generosity.com/education-fundraising/unrig-summer-of-peace

    #UNRIG: Summer of Peace

    Cynthia McKinney and Robert Steele are leading this project [#UNRIG, Beyond Trump and Sanders] to restore integrity.

    Read More
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