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After 18 months of withering attacks and accusations, Donald Trump has decided to get up off the canvas and fight back. In a series of tweets stretching from Sunday night to early Monday morning, Trump announced that he would launch his own investigation to see whether the FBI and DOJ had improperly targeted his campaign for “political purposes”.

“I hereby demand, and will do so officially tomorrow, that the Department of Justice look into whether or not the FBI/DOJ infiltrated or surveilled the Trump Campaign for Political Purposes – and if any such demands or requests were made by people within the Obama Administration! Donald Trump, @realDonaldTrump, Twitter, Sunday, May 20

It’s a gutsy move by Trump but one that could backfire quite badly. By demanding an investigation of the DOJ and FBI, the president is asking those agencies to willingly reveal their own transgressions, to produce the documents and other information that could potentially expose many of their own people (Obama holdovers) to criticism or even criminal prosecution. It’s hard to believe that many career bureaucrats would want to assist Trump in an effort that could potentially damage their colleagues or the reputation of their own department.

In any event, Trump has decided to throw caution to the wind and go for broke. He’s decided that the only way he’s going to get his enemies off his back is by flushing them out into the open and subjecting their activities to public scrutiny. It’s a risky strategy, but the scrappy New Yorker seems to think he can pull it off without a hitch. Here’s another late-night tweet from Trump:

Reports are there was indeed at least one FBI representative implanted, for political purposes, into my campaign for president. It took place very early on, and long before the phony Russia Hoax became a “hot” Fake News story. If true – all time biggest political scandal! Donald Trump, @realDonaldTrump, Twitter, May 18

Is he right? Did the FBI place a mole inside the campaign to gather information on Trump and his aids? Because, if they did, then this is bigger than Watergate, in fact, it would be the biggest political corruption scandal in history. According to the New York Times, however, Trump’s got it all wrong. There was no spy inside the campaign, there was a trusted informant who was trying to gather information from individual members of the campaign. There’s a big difference. But whether the informant was inside or outside, the fact remains that the FBI launched a counterintelligence operation against the rival party’s presidential campaign in order to gather information that was intended to damage, discredit or incriminate the targets of the operation. That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? The nation’s top law enforcement agency, operating on orders from god-knows-who (Obama?), was engaged in a plot to gain an unfair advantage in the election, undermine the two-party system and sabotage the democratic process. Trump may have misstated the details but the basic facts remain the same. Here’s an excerpt from the article in the Times:

“President Trump accused the F.B.I. on Friday, without evidence, of sending a spy to secretly infiltrate his 2016 campaign “for political purposes” even before the bureau had any inkling of the “phony Russia hoax.”

In fact, F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign. The informant, an American academic who teaches in Britain, made contact late that summer with one campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, according to people familiar with the matter. He also met repeatedly in the ensuing months with the other aide, Carter Page, who was also under F.B.I. scrutiny for his ties to Russia.” (“F.B.I. Used Informant to Investigate Russia Ties to Campaign, Not to Spy, as Trump Claims ” New York Times)

The Times is technically right, but their hair-splitting defense misses the point altogether. It’s up to the FBI to prove that their extremely-suspicious and perhaps illegal activities were justifiable. And whatever excuse the Bureau eventually settles on, it should not have anything to do with Russiagate since that bogus probe has been a ‘dry well’ from the get-go and hasn’t produced even a scintilla of hard evidence in more than a year and half. The FBI needs to come clean and explain what was really going on behind the scenes. What’s this all about? Clearly, the informant wasn’t talking to gasbag Papadopoulos because he thought he’d uncover a link between Putin and Trump, but because his disjointed braggadocio would help him build a case against the president. That what’s really going on, it’s plain as the nose on your face. The FBI was using the Russia pretext to gather damaging and possibly incriminating dirt on Trump. The obvious objective was to prevent Trump from being elected and then, afterwards, to remove him from office. This is from The Hill on Monday:

“The Department of Justice (DOJ) has asked its inspector general to look into whether the FBI surveilled President Trump’s campaign for “inappropriate purposes.”

“If anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action,” Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement.” (DOJ asks watchdog to probe Trump campaign surveillance claims, The Hill)

Got that? So deep-state Rod is going to sort this mess out and let us all know if there’s been any funny business or not. What a joke. The man is so conflicted he should have been removed months ago. It was Rosenstein who wrote the 3-page memo that persuaded Trump to dump Comey after which he quickly appointed Robert Mueller as Special Counsel using the ‘firing of Comey’ as his justification. That might the sleaziest political switcheroo I’ve seen in my lifetime.

And notice how carefully Rosenstein chooses his words like an ambulance-chasing barrister inveigling an injured client. He says, “If anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action,”

Okay, so who decides what is appropriate or inappropriate? The Inspector General or our buddy Rosenstein who’s going to do everything in his power to hide the smoking gun. In any event, that doesn’t change the fact that the campaign was infiltrated by at least one informant who tried to wrangle as much information as possible out of his targets. Which brings us to the case of Stefan Halper, “the 73-year-old Oxford University professor and former U.S. government official” who “was outed as the FBI informant ” and who “was paid handsomely by the Obama administration starting in 2012 for various research projects.

….Halper was enlisted by the FBI to spy on several Trump campaign aides during the 2016 U.S. election…..while a search of public records reveals that between 2012 and 2018, Halper received a total of $1,058,161 from the Department of Defense.” Here’s more from an article at Zero Hedge:

“The most recent award to Halper for $411,575 was made in two payments, and had a start date of September 26, 2016 – three days after an… article by Michael Isikoff about Trump aide Carter Page, which used information fed to Isikoff by “pissgate” dossier creator Christopher Steele….

The second installment of Halper’s 2016 DoD contract is dated July 26, 2017 in the amount of $129,280 – around three months before the FISA warrant on Carter Page was set to expire following repeated renewals signed by Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and a federal judge….

Halper’s July 28 email to Page – sent two days after the second portion of his contract kicked in, suggests that the espionage operation against Trump associates was still active seven months into the new administration….

Following Halper’s doxxing, President Trump called for an official investigation by the Department of Justice -” (“FBI Informant Stefan Halper Paid Over $1 Million By Obama Admin; Spied On Trump Aide After Election”, Zero Hedge)

And here’s more on Halper from the WSWS:

“The choice of Halper for this spying operation has ominous implications. His deep ties to the US intelligence apparatus date back decades. His father-in-law was Ray Cline, who headed the CIA’s Directorate of Intelligence at the height of the Cold War. Halper served as an aide to Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Alexander Haig in the Nixon and Ford administrations.The revelations of the role played by Halper point to an intervention in the 2016 elections by the US intelligence agencies that far eclipsed anything one could even imagine the Kremlin attempting.” (“Long-time CIA asset named as FBI’s spy on Trump campaign”, Bill Van Auken, World Socialist Web Site)

Maybe the Halper connection is a big nothingburger for which there is some perfectly logical explanation, but, seriously, does anyone really think this passes the smell test??

Let’s cut to the chase: When we look at the long list of potential felonies committed by the Obama team– including bogus FISA warrants, wiretaps, improper unmasking, questionable surveillance on campaign members, and, now, paid informants dredging up whatever dirt they can find on the newly-elected government, we are left scratching our heads wondering, “Is this really America? What on earth were these people thinking??” Here’s how political analyst Nick Short sums it up in a recent comment on Twitter:

“FBI opened a CI (CounterIntelligence) investigation in the absence of any (a) incriminating evidence, or (b) evidence implicating the Trump camp in Russian espionage. The FBI collaborated w/ CIA to probe an American political camp using foreign-intel surveillance & informants. Bigger than Watergate…” @PoliticalShort

Bingo. Any reasonable person would naturally assume that the informant was being used to gain an unfair advantage in the election by gathering privileged information that could be used against the targeted party or its candidates. (aka–Trump) In other words, we must disabuse ourselves of the idea that the perpetrators of this counterintelligence operation, were at all focused on the fictitious “Russia” angle. There’s no proof of that whatsoever. There is, however, considerable circumstantial evidence that a cabal of senior-level government officials, Intel agents, law enforcement officers, and high-ranking members of the DNC were using their access to the extraordinary powers of state surveillance to sabotage the democratic process, undermine the two-party system and topple the elected government. Unlike the Times, which seems to think these goings-on are just a harmless blip on the radar, we believe that this naked attempt to decimate the two-party system and reinforce the malign grip of unseen corporate oligarchs is actually the most egregious political crime of the century. Here’s how Barry Grey sums it up at the World Socialist Web Site:

“The recent press reports add to a wealth of information showing that the US intelligence and spy agencies, operating behind the backs of the American people and without any democratic accountability, manipulated the 2016 elections on a scale that massively outweighed anything Moscow could have attempted.

The real threat to the democratic rights of the American people comes not from Russia or foreign terrorists, but from the US government itself, which is completely controlled by a vast military/intelligence complex allied to the financial oligarchy. Both major parties are beholden to this “deep state” machine for surveillance and repression.

The Democratic Party evinces not the slightest concern or opposition to this police state apparatus. Its ringing defense of the FBI and CIA coincides with its critical role in supplying the votes necessary to confirm “black site” torturer Gina Haspel as CIA director earlier this week.” (“Democrats defend FBI following reports it spied on Trump’s election campaign”, Barry Grey, World Socialist Web Site)

Right again. This is not a Dems vs Republicans issue, at least, it shouldn’t be. It’s about the unelected cabal that operates behind the cloak of partisan politics to exert its stranglehold on political power. As comedian George Carlin said, “The parties exist to make you think you have a choice. But you have no choice. You have owners, and they own everything.” Russiagate was merely the paper-thin pretext this secretive group settled on to launch its attack on the candidate who was never supposed to win the election. Here’s more from the NY Times:

“F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign….The role of the informant is at the heart of the newest battle between top law enforcement officials and Mr. Trump’s congressional allies over the F.B.I.’s most politically charged investigations in decades. The lawmakers, who say they are concerned that federal investigators are abusing their authority, have demanded documents from the Justice Department about the informant.

Law enforcement officials have refused, saying that handing over the documents would imperil both the source’s anonymity and safety. The New York Times has learned the source’s identity but typically does not name informants to preserve their safety.” (“FBI used informant to investigate Russia ties to Campaign, Not to spy, as Trump claims”, New York Times)

Translation– The FBI and DOJ are stonewalling Congress. They’re preventing Congress from getting the documents they need to fulfill their constitutional duty of oversight. The documents they need will likely reveal information that proves that senior-level officials were spying on the Trump campaign to gain an unfair advantage in the elections. Congress needs the documents to establish whether officials or agents at the FBI, CIA or NSA were involved in a conspiracy to torpedo the Trump campaign or (later) topple the President. Here’s more from the Times:

“Democrats say the Republicans’ real aim is to undermine the Special Counsel investigation.”

Special Counsel’s credibility has already been severely eroded by its obvious bias in carrying out a politically-motivated agenda that has been used to cast a cloud of suspicion around the president while producing no hard evidence that these suspicions are warranted. It’s worth noting, that the current Russia investigation is based on the dubious claim that Russia hacked DNC computers. As Andrew C. McCarthy points out in his excellent article at National Review, that’s pretty thin gruel. Here’s what he says:

“It has now been confirmed that the Trump campaign was subjected to spying tactics under counterintelligence law — FISA surveillance, national-security letters, and covert intelligence operatives who work with the CIA and allied intelligence services. It made no difference, apparently, that there was an ongoing election campaign, which the FBI is supposed to avoid affecting; nor did it matter that the spy targets were American citizens, as to whom there is supposed to be evidence of purposeful, clandestine, criminal activity on behalf of a foreign power before counterintelligence powers are invoked.

But what was the rationale for using these spying authorities?

The fons et origo of the counterintelligence investigation was the suspicion — which our intelligence agencies assure us is a fact — that the Democratic National Committee’s server was hacked by covert Russian operatives. Without this cyber-espionage attack, there would be no investigation. But how do we know it really happened? The Obama Justice Department never took custody of the server — no subpoena, no search warrant. The server was thus never subjected to analysis by the FBI’s renowned forensics lab, and its evidentiary integrity was never preserved for courtroom presentation to a jury…..

So, yes, the entire “Russia hacked the election” narrative the nation has endured for nearly two years hinges on the say-so of CrowdStrike, a private DNC contractor with significant financial ties to the Clinton campaign.” “In Politicized Justice, Desperate Times call for Desperate Measures”, Andrew C. McCarthy, National Review

So the FISA surveillance, the national-security letters, the FBI informants and 18 months of relentless probing-harassment have all been justified on the basis of allegations about Russia hacking that may or may not have happened at all??

Yep. Like we said earlier, it’s pretty thin gruel.

More from the Times: “No evidence has emerged that the informant acted improperly when the F.B.I. asked for help in gathering information on the former campaign advisers, or that agents veered from the F.B.I.’s investigative guidelines and began a politically motivated inquiry, which would be illegal.” (New York Times)

What sort of nonsense is this?? The “informant acted improperly” the minute he infiltrated the Trump campaign with the intention of gathering information on the rival party. Is the Times really trying to make the case that spying on one’s political opponent is morally, ethically or legally acceptable??

It’s ridiculous. This is just a feeble attempt to protect the informant from prosecution which he will undoubtedly face when he’s forced to testify before a grand jury and provide details of his employment including who gave him his assignment, what information was he gathering (and on who), and what other government officials or agency chiefs were involved in the counterintelligence operation aimed at sabotaging the election? (We already know that former CIA boss John Brennan originally referred the case to the FBI, so we’re convinced that he is the one who got the ball rolling.)

The fact that the informant has been exposed is just the first step in a long process that will (hopefully) reveal the machinations of the deep state apparatus and its connection to behind-the-scenes corporate mandarins, the real puppetmasters in this political fiasco.

One last blurb from the Times:

“According to people familiar with (General Michael) Flynn’s visit to the intelligence seminar, the source was alarmed by the general’s apparent closeness with a Russian woman who was also in attendance. The concern was strong enough that it prompted another person to pass on a warning to the American authorities that Mr. Flynn could be compromised by Russian intelligence, according to two people familiar with the matter.”

Got that? Flynn talked to a Russian woman at a seminar and the Times thinks that’s sufficient grounds for ‘tailing’ him or infiltrating the Trump campaign or issuing FISA warrants or National Security letters or collecting all-manner of electronic surveillance on Trump’s former campaign chairman or appointing a Special Counsel to snoop around in the elected government’s private affairs or saturating the airwaves with fake news stories for the better-part of 18 months. Where does it stop or is Russia going to be the all-purpose excuse for government misbehavior until we’re all locked up in Gitmo under 24-hour surveillance?? Would the editors of the Times find a justification for that, too?

We’re pretty sure they would.

The reason the Times released this article on a Friday night, when everyone was focused on the Royal wedding, was to minimize the political fallout. They wanted to see the public’s reaction, but they wanted to limit the circulation. They wanted to see if they could still control the narrative in lieu of damning new details that had surfaced. Most of all, they wanted to see if they could still divert people’s attention from the fact that a powerful group of government insiders and their junta-allies at the DNC have been engaged in a coup d’état to roll back the 2016 elections and remove the president from office. It’s getting harder to hide the truth all the time.

Correction: In an earlier version of this article I stated that the FBI planted a spy INSIDE the Trump campaign. This is not correct, which is why I asked editor Ron Unz to remove the article. The informant was not part of the Campaign but sought information from members of the Campaign. I apologize to those people who were misled by my mistake. Mike Whitney

 
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  1. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    If Trump does not prosecute this to the fullest extent then he will deserve his sorry fate.

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  2. anon[340] • Disclaimer says:

    Everything is downstream from immigration. The Democrats have imported enough colonists to be on the cusp of semi-permanent power, with no need to compromise with their opponents and no need to moderate their extremism to gain the votes of the former white “Silent Majority.” They’re doing what any Junta in such a position usually does: criminalizing dissent. When they can’t yet criminalize they simply send their goon squads to beat their opponents into silence, with legal impunity. Nothing will come of this, certainly no useless, spineless Republican or Conservative will do anything serious about it. Welcome to third-world America, brought to you in large part by the Republican Party’s treasonous support for open borders.

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  3. Svigor says:

    So, help me out here – the only reason the NYT is even reporting on this is because Congress was closing in on this turd’s identity, right?

    “F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign.

    “Suspicious contacts” = Russians who talked to Trump’s employees.

    So the FISA surveillance, the national-security letters, the FBI informants and 18 months of relentless probing-harassment have all been justified on the basis of allegations about Russia hacking that may or may not have happened at all??

    The one silver lining to all of this is that the GOP can to absolutely DRAG the Democrats about this in the next election. If the GOP is smart, they will not listen to a goddamn word coming out of the mouths of the Democrats or their (((Big Media))) mouthpieces during the 2020 election. They will not respond to a single point they have to make, except to call them hopelessly corrupt authoritarians who are unfit to govern until they come clean about their malfeasance and cut the rot from their ranks, and then spout their other talking points and drop the mic.

    “According to people familiar with (General Michael) Flynn’s visit to the intelligence seminar, the source was alarmed by the general’s apparent closeness with a Russian woman who was also in attendance. The concern was strong enough that it prompted another person to pass on a warning to the American authorities that Mr. Flynn could be compromised by Russian intelligence, according to two people familiar with the matter.”

    *Facepalm*

    These fucks are beyond parody now. We’re literally ruled by corrupt morons, stooges, and degenerates.

    “The cockblocking/penis-envy concern was enough for Stasi agents to follow up…”

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  4. Svigor says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes, Trump is a complete asshat if he doesn’t open a counter Special Investigation now. (Unless he’s got something yuuuuge already up his sleeve/being worked up already)

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  5. Renoman says:

    I would be shocked if both political party’s didn’t have a myriad of spies in each other’s campaigns dating back to Lincoln! Grow up people, there’s a ton of money here.

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    I have been designated #340 among the anonymous commenters.

    But this comment isn’t mine.

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  7. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:

    Rod Rosenstein is a traitorous weasel POS who never should’ve been appointed. Christopher Wray worked as a deputy to James Comey and is highly likely dirty and another deep state puppet. Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, McConnell, Pompeo, John Kelly, Kirstjen Nielsen, Gina Haspel, John Bolton, Nikki Haley, all are deep state puppets. Why does Trump keep appointing more deep state puppets to take over from the other deep state puppets?

    I cannot for the life of me understand why Jeff Sessions continues to stick up for Rosenstein the weasel. My only explanation is that this whole thing is a coup set up by Deep State and Mike Pence from the get go so Pence can be president, and Sessions is in on the coup to keep his job.

    I did not know it was Rosenstein’s memo that prompted Trump to fire James Comey. Trump needs to bring that out in the open and let everyone know Rosenstein set him up. This POS weasel needs to go to jail. As long as he’s still in the DOJ no real investigation of deep state will ever take place. We’ve got the fox guarding the hen house.

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  8. An equally interesting article can be found here:

    https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/the-fbi-informant-who-monitored-the-trump-campaign-stefan-halper-oversaw-a-cia-spying-operation-in-the-1980-presidential-election/

    It notes that all the corporate media knows it was Halper, but they obey the Deep State and refuse to report this, pretending that evil Republicans are trying to out an innocent FBI spy. Even today, their coverage is “alleged” informant. For some reason, NBC News was the only “mainstream” team to ignore this absurd BS and report his name as part of the biggest news story of the decade. Note that Halper is not a Democratic Party mole, but a Bush family mole.

    Doesn’t Mueller have the self-respect to end his witch hunt and crawl back under a rock?

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  9. Mr Mueller’s silence is killing them and making them all nervous and desperate! More than likely the guilty ones know more about their own situations within the Mueller’s investigation than the public!
    To shut DT up now Mueller ought to indict DT Jr ASAP!

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  10. A very strong move by President Trump. It is a fact that the FBI sent an informant, Mr. Halper, to gather information on the Trump campaign. The FBI can plead it was to gather info on alarming Russians, but the informant my gather other info just as easily. If the FBI can send one, Halper, they can just as easily send another, or more unknown informants. This RussiaGate nonsense has always been a matter to be tried in the court of public opinion, by innuendo. Therefore President Trump’s investigation can use the “have you stopped beating your wife?” method. Every time the FBI says no to a question it looks like they are lying to cover something bigger. Informants have Control Officers, who write reports to superiors, the reports make reference to code words, places and dates. Reports generate memos and orders. Everything becomes fuel for innuendo and the only out the FBI will have is “We honestly thought….but no, we found nothing”.

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  11. @Renoman

    A point well made in qualification of the merits of the article. Surely the author knows on reflection that no political party or campaign is going to forgo the chance of getting inside information on what their opponents are up to, including crimes – and spying.

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    Since Trump could do some shuffling so as to appoint an Attorney-General who wouldn’t recuse himself or get rid of Rosenstein by appointing him a judge, or ambassador just for example maybe it is best to assume that the President doesn’t feel immediately threatened and is reasonably confident that he can find and time his countermeasures satisfactorily. It is hardly beyond belief that there are Trump moles in Mueller’s army who are assuring him that his instinct is right: apparent witch hunting persecution by Mueller is actually a harmless distraction and so good for him until the time is right to blow it up.

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  13. Considered in its entirety, this Trump/Russia business is indeed turning into the political crime (& shame) of the century. Were someone who had died in the 50′s to suddenly resurrect, they would suffer the equivalent of a psychotic episode or a bad LSD trip.
    Its mind boggling to anyone even vaguely conscious….
    Mr Trump needs to clean house: politiclly difficult, yes, but Trump needs to visit a Lehman Bros’ moment on the DOJ, CIA & FBI.
    No doubt the above toxic agencies will (again) spew forth the magic word: “Russia-Russia-Russia” to render all opposition impotent.
    One may, of course, truly wonder whether a majority of citizens will awake & notice the stench of rotting democracy…& having noticed, draw the correct conclusions and – finally – act.

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  14. @Svigor

    Trump has surrounded himself with lifer Deep Staters who no doubt tell him that investigations and prosecutions will do grave harm to national security and, at the same time, would appear to be his own politically motivated witch hunt, the kind one sees only in third-world basket case countries, and that would reflect more poorly on him than on the actual cabal attempting to overthrow him and overturn his election.

    But the actual collusion has become so obvious that he has to pull the trigger, because nobody else is going to. Sessions should have been all over this a year ago, but he too is a long-serving government employee, which suggests he is also of the swamp. As for Congress, a few brave souls, e.g. Nunes, have tried and have been exposed to withering fire from all sides.

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  15. Bob says:

    The purpose of the informant/spy was to “dirty” Page and Papadopoulos; to make them plausible suspects so that full use of the NSA database could be used on the Trump team both pre- and post-election and as far back in the past as they wanted to go. The warrants used on Page and Papadopoulos were counterintelligence warrants that allow using NSA resources on anyone “two hops” (two people) away from Page and Papadopoulos. “Two-hops” would easily include everyone near Trump even if Page and Papadopoulos had only minimal contact with the campaign. This is the heart of the crime. Page and Papadopoulos were used as place-holders to gather information on everyone near Trump. The informer was used to set those two up.

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  16. The author is exactly 157 years behind the times. The real coup occurred in 1861.

    https://revisedhistory.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/the-real-coup-was-in-1861/

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  17. Ma Laoshi says:

    Trump posting something on Twitter isn’t “fighting back”–it’s venting steam. As the article correctly states, letting the DOJ investigate itself is a joke. So Trump needed a Special Counsel of his own, and he needed him right after his inauguration. It may be that Trump likes a dose of Russia Scare to push overpriced American weapons and LNG to clueless Europeans. It may be that he’s found out (or at least his people have) that he needs Deep-State sleaze for his anti-Iran campaign. It may be that Trump well knows he’s vulnerable on nepotism, old NY Mob ties, and oh yeah some sexual peccadilloes, so he better play along and color within the lines. Or it may simply be that Trump is a moron without the attention span for anything beyond venting on Twitter.

    It doesn’t really matter now, the ship has sailed, he’s gone too far in with “Putin-Assad baby killers” to return to sanity now.

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  18. “After 18 months of withering attacks and accusations, Donald Trump has decided to get up off the canvas and fight back.”

    If “they” are really out to “get” orange clown, why don’t “they” go after him for his impeachable war crimes in Syria, for example? Why don’t “they” at least bring a lawsuit against him for his illegal, immoral and unconstitutional occupation of Syria?

    Generally speaking, when one party ostensibly dislikes another party, and apparently seeks to “get” that party, isn’t there usually some kind of plausible, identifiable reason for the enmity?

    Since being inaugurated, orange clown has reversed himself on the pre-election intimations and campaign promises that apparently got him elected. Instead of improving relations with Russia, he’s made everything worse; he never misses a chance to provoke Russia. Instead of pulling out of Afghanistan, he’s escalating that pointless war. He’s increased the illegal, immoral and unconstitutional U.S. military occupation of Syria. He’s escalating the genocidal war against Yemen. He’s arming the corrupt puppet government in Kiev. He’s already slaughtered more people with drone strikes than Obama did in eight years. He’s surrounded himself with bloodthirsty psychopaths. He’s trying to overthrow the Maduro government in Venezuela. He puts Israel first and America second (or lower) on the list. He wants more military spending. He seems to want a bigger, more powerful more and aggressive NATO, not the reverse. Rather than investigate 9/11, he studiously avoids the topic. Etc., etc., etc.

    From a “deep state” perspective, what is there to dislike about orange clown? How can the “deep state” have any kind of serious problem with someone who’s making Obama look like Mister Rogers?

    “In any event, Trump has decided to throw caution to the wind and go for broke. He’s decided that the only way he’s going to get his enemies off his back is by flushing them out into the open and subjecting their activities to public scrutiny.”

    Has the “deep state” deployed a “lone nut” against him? Apparently not. Is he being impeached? No. Is there even a hint of political opposition to his reckless, imperial “foreign policy”? No. Have any of his appointees been blocked? No. Has there been any kind of significant legal action against him challenging his blatantly unconstitutional military adventurism for example? As far as I know, no.

    So how is anybody actually “[on] his back”?

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    @Wizard of Oz

    3D chess, 4D chess or what is it up to now, 14D chess? Trumpistas have too much faith in their man. Trump is a businessman not a politician. He’s in over his head. Just look at how easily he was goaded into canning James Comey that set off this whole sorry affair.

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    @animalogic

    One may, of course, truly wonder whether a majority of citizens will awake & notice the stench of rotting democracy…& having noticed, draw the correct conclusions and – finally – act.

    Not where I live in the Northwest. I have spoken to people who are convinced Trump is “beyond guilty” of collusion. These people are either CNN watchers or work in IT. Everyday I go to the gym people are either watching CNN or MSNBC on their screen. Most Americans are brain dead sheeple.

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  21. The question for me is ‘can the majority of the USA people be convinced that the era since 1898 is over, that USA foreign policy can no longer be determined merely by internal politics, internal politics including pressure groups as neocons, AIPAC and AEI ?’.
    Maybe the question is the wrong one: can the majority of the USA be made to see that these pressure groups will ruin the USA, and that their power must be liquidated ?
    What Trump’s intentions are with threatening Iran, I do not know.
    The long term effect must be driving Iran in Russian and Chinese arms.
    What the European industrial countries will do, I also do not know.
    Is Germany willling to be cut off from trade with the east, or will Germany decide that her future lies in the East, the Asian continent, from which we are not divided by an ocean, where countries exist that do not think, as far as I know, that they have a Manifest Destiny to rule or ‘police’ the world.

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  22. What makes you think the “informant” will live long enough to testify?

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  23. phil says:
    @Harold Smith

    “Has the “deep state” deployed a ‘lone nut’ against him? Apparently not. Is he being impeached? No. Is there even a hint of political opposition to his reckless, imperial ‘foreign policy’? No. Have any of his appointees been blocked? No. Has there been any kind of significant legal action against him challenging his blatantly unconstitutional military adventurism for example? As far as I know, no.

    So how is anybody actually ‘[on] his back’?”

    Answer: the Deep State obviously is on his back, It is has successfully manipulated him into a foreign policy that he did not want. He wanted an America First policy, but because of political blackmail and dishonest allegations about collusion with Russia, Trump has felt compelled to do what Zionists want in the Middle East. At home, massive legal immigration continues, there will be no mass deportations, and the border wall will not be built. The Democrats will be firmly entrenched after Trump is gone from the scene.

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  24. This whole deal is a distraction by the Zionists who control both the demonrats and the republicons and so it is a fraud on we Americans as the Zionist controlled deep state controls the U.S. lock stock and gun barrel and has since 1913 with their creation of the Zionist FED and IRS.

    If anyone doubts this , read the 10 planks of the communist manifesto.

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  25. @anon

    Indeed, even if what I said is right, Trump could easily get it wrong.

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  26. @phil

    “the Deep State obviously is on his back, It is has successfully manipulated him into a foreign policy that he did not want. ”

    Or so goes the Trump apologists’ claim. But that’s pure unfounded speculation.

    How do you “manipulate” a reasonable person into flirting with planetary extinction? How can someone who actually cares about America be manipulated into risking war with Russia for no good reason? Such a person is not morally or mentally fit for the job of president in the first place.

    So in essence Trump’s whole campaign platform was reversed by “deep state” “manipulation” but rather than surround himself with reasonable people, appeal to his supporters, investigate or threaten to investigate 9/11, or even resign (rather than become a mass-murderer), he decides to stay on because he enjoys killing people with drones and he loves the vacations, etc.?

    I think not. The more likely case is that orange clown’s a con man whose whole campaign was a calculated bait and switch fraud from the beginning. And all this “out to get Trump” nonsense depicting Trump as hapless “victim” of the deep state is pure political theater.

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  27. “In an earlier version of this article I stated that the FBI planted a spy INSIDE the Trump campaign. This is not correct, which is why I asked editor Ron Unz to remove the article. The informant was not part of the Campaign but sought information from members of the Campaign.”

    Hyper-technical hair splitting that is ultimately false. The point of Halper’s approaches were to recruit people in the campaign to provide information. Those recruits would have been spies. Michael Caputo now says he was approached by a SECOND recruiter, someone other than Halper.

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  28. gwynedd1 says:

    If the evidence is there. Humans are not merely the corrupt and incorruptible. If the evidence is damning and real, some are bound to have a gag reflex.

    That might be his resource, enough people who see it going beyond the widows and orphans fund.

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  29. densa says:

    The NYT thinks it’s a nothing-burger until someone proves Halper was spying? Right, it wasn’t spying; it was an insurance policy. Just ask Strozk and whomever else was meeting over that topic.

    Didn’t they all decide they needed an insurance policy when it looked like Clinton might not win? Hadn’t they already completely screwed the pooch covering up for her?

    Early in her candidacy, the issue of the private server for government business was already out there. They–media and law enforcement–let it ride.

    What extraordinary treatment she got! In the end it was immunity and destroyed evidence, party favors all around. Then, she lost. Oops?

    The DNC didn’t have to provide their server as evidence. Congress’s completely odd choice of IT services went down the rabbit hole. The Clinton Foundation was never investigated as political slush funds are SOP. There is plenty of evidence that the State’s power is being abused. This can’t stand. If this is all accepted and passed or forgotten with the next financial crisis and/or war, our country is truly gone.

    And I agree with Ma Laoshi that twitting is venting, not fighting back. Until these crimes against the country are addressed with actions taken in public, not behind closed doors and redacted into oblivion, I have no confidence thatTrump will be more than a speed bump for the Deep State.

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    Pretty much guarantee the cucks will decide for the good of the nation this needs to be memory holed.

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  32. Trump is head of the Executive Branch. The DoJ and FBI are part of the executive branch and subordinate to Trump. He can send 30-40 US Marshals to FBI headquarters, and to DoJ headquarters, and have them extract by force the necessary documents, and no one can say “boo!”

    I wish he would.

    The downside of course is that everyone in the media and in Congress would scream “tyrant!” So Trump currently is leaving them alone to continue digging their own grave with the Mueller/Russia witchunt, as the country moves towards the midterm elections.

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  33. @Carlton Meyer

    Yes, Halper was involved in getting President Carter’s debate briefing book to the Reagan/BUSH campaign ahead of the debate. He’s been in there, connected, for years and years, a call-boy the players, the powers-that-be have at their disposal.

    Stefan Halper is one of the creepy-crawly things that have been living under the rock Donald Trump kicked over.

    As Steve Sailer points out, Halper is the son-in-law of CIA man Ray. S. Cline, who was instrumental in the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

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  35. Democrats and Republicans serve the same master, no difference, neither have real any real power. The Wall St bankers,, The Lobby, MIC, International Corporations call the shots. All the politicians are dirty, and deep state has plenty of blackmail info on ALL of them if they step out of line. They’re only puppets for you to get angry at, and vote out to ease your anger. But nothing changes with elections because the ones with power are unelected, and never move. See Jim Traficant or JFK for what happens when one dares to tell the truth, or challenge the establishment.

    9/11 and silence from both sides with regard to a real investigation into the biggest “terrorist” attack in US History, and the murder of 3000 Americans, this tells you who is in power, the people that pulled it off. Neither party supports a real investigation into this attack, they both work for the same people. The fact that the MSM still lies about it means they are also controlled by the goons. The FBI, CIA lies about it, and Muellers coverup of the crime tells you all of the “Intelligence” and “Law” enforcement agencies are also controlled by the same cabal.

    Until they start telling the truth about 9/11, you can bet the same goons are still in charge, no matter who the president is, no matter which Democrat or Republican you elect, the shadow government, deep state are still calling the shots. If you do vote, vote 3rd party. The whole election system is rigged to keep out most anyone who might dare to challenge the establishment, thats why we only get lowlifes like Mitt Romney or the Cintons running for office year after year, out of millions of people the same dirtbags just won’t go away.
    Everything else is just noise, distractions from this reality. If Trump really wanted to change things, if he was the real deal, he would have Sessions start a new 9/11 investigation, and start imprisoning and executing the perps and traitors, all the way from Tel Aviv back home to Wall St. All of them.

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  36. renfro says:
    @anon

    Why does Trump keep appointing more deep state puppets to take over from the other deep state puppets?

    Because Trump is just another creature in the swamp.

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  37. renfro says:

    Donald Trump has decided to get up off the canvas and fight back.

    LOL…more like the Orange One is in total panic.

    I have finally figure why little guys like Whitney love Trump despite all the evidence of his unbelievable stupidity and subservience to creatures like Israeli Adelson.

    They like the way he YELLS and RANTS , they want to yell and rant too but they don’t have any real power so they live vicariously thru Trump.

    Trumps followers wouldnt know the Real Deep state if it crawled up their ass …they are like wind up dolls parroting Deep State! Deep State!….its comical.

    They prefer their own Deep State of Trump Swamp Corruption Inc to the Other Deep State of Swamp Corruption Inc.

    They are worthless to this country. Their little high school gang mentality is why we don’t get any decent government to begin with.

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  38. @Renoman

    People who say nothing ever changes should read a history book.

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  39. renfro says:

    The princes, the president and the fortune seekers

    https://apnews.com/a3521859cf8d4c199cb9a8567abd2b71

    RNC officials had decreed there would be no photos with the president without payment. Broidy suggested that Nader meet the suggested threshold with a donation between $100,000 and $250,000.

    You gotta love that the parties raise money by selling getting your picture taken with the Prez.

    What a democracy! BWTTGASO!

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  40. renfro says:

    MAKE CHINA GREAT AGAIN !!

    ”President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast,” Trump announced on Twitter Sunday morning. “Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!”

    A mere 72 hours after the Chinese government agreed to put a half-billion dollars into an Indonesian project that will personally enrich Donald Trump,
    Trump did not mention in that tweet or its follow-ups that on Thursday, the developer of a theme park resort outside of Jakarta had signed a deal to receive as much as $500 million in Chinese government loans, as well as another $500 million from Chinese banks, according to Agence France-Presse. Trump’s family business, the Trump Organization, has a deal to license the Trump name to the resort, which includes a golf course and hotels”

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  41. Mike P says:

    If Trump really wanted to change things, if he was the real deal, he would have Sessions start a new 9/11 investigation, and start imprisoning and executing the perps and traitors, all the way from Tel Aviv back home to Wall St. All of them.

    In fairness, his life expectancy after such an announcement would be about 6 minutes.

    Getting the public to realize the truth about 9/11 is the best chance I can see for real political change in the U.S., but hoping that anyone in Washington will lead the charge seems quite futile. A group of lawyers representing victims’ families recently filed a petition for a new investigation – the media of course were not interested. It really comes down to spreading the word on the grassroots level.

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  42. @anon

    Here in East Texas most everybody agrees that Trump’s enemies are OUR enemies. Check out the election map showing results by county. If you live on the blue archipelago can you see that you are surrounded? Can you see how vulnerable you are to a siege?

    Not talking to you 204. Talking to your acquaintances at the gym.

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  43. renfro says:

    This is how the Russian oligarchs got rich…..privatizing of government owned assets and resources as the USSR started failing.

    Trump infrastructure plan includes push to sell federal airports, power assets, more
    Updated Feb 12, 2018; Posted Feb 12, 2018
    President Donald Trump releases his infrastructure plan

    WASHINGTON – The Trump administration is making a push to sell off federal assets as part of its infrastructure plan released Monday.
    Trump has repeatedly blamed the “crumbling” state of the nation’s roads and highways for preventing the American economy from reaching its full potential.
    Among the targeted federal assets: Reagan National and Dulles International airports and two major parkways serving the Washington region, as well as power assets around the country, according to a copy of the proposal.
    The Washington Aqueduct, which supplies drinking water in Washington and Northern Virginia, also is on the list.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-23/trump-proposes-selling-off-half-the-u-s-strategic-oil-reserve

    The White House plan to trim the national debt includes selling off half of the nation’s emergency oil stockpile and the entire backup gasoline supply, but Securing America’s Future Energy believes the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is “America’s only formal short-term line of defense against oil supply disruptions and price spikes.”

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  44. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harold Smith

    Anyone who refers to Trump as “orange clown” is obviously partisan to the point of not worth listening to.

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  45. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Q Public

    Hyper-technical hair splitting that is ultimately false. The point of Halper’s approaches were to recruit people in the campaign to provide information. Those recruits would have been spies. Michael Caputo now says he was approached by a SECOND recruiter, someone other than Halper.

    Halper was not a recruiter. He was there to collect information for the FBI, the very definition of a spy.

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  46. anon[217] • Disclaimer says:
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    From the NYT:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/world/asia/trump-hotel-china-indonesia.html

    Hatunggal Muda Siregar, a spokesman for MNC, said the theme park and the Trump properties are separate projects within the Lido development. The agreement with the Chinese company to build the theme park does not include any financing for the project, he said.

    Mr. Trump’s business dealings in Indonesia prompted scrutiny even before his inauguration, and he pledged not to embark on any new deals while in office. But the Trump Organization held onto the projects in Indonesia, saying the contracts with Mr. Hary were signed in 2015 and were binding.

    Yet another nothing burger. This an old deal made before he even ran for president. The Chinese loan does not extend to building of the Trump properties.
    As the article repeatedly pointed out:

    There isn’t any evidence that the agreement with the construction company was intended to sway the Trump administration on any matters.

    If there’s no evidence, why report it at all? To give more ammo to people who are always for looking for any reason to disparage Trump, and only bother to read headlines.

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  47. Svigor says:

    NPR had a great piece on this today. Smarmy Ray Suarez interviewing several lying swamp creatures. The bullshit was neck-deep.

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    @renfro

    This is actually a good idea. Our airports are poorly run, many are decrepit compared to airports in Asia and Europe. Clearly the government has been doing a poor job running them. Privatization might actually save them. I hope Trump succeeds in privatizing them.

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  49. renfro says:
    @anon

    If there’s no evidence, why report it at all? To give more ammo to people who are always for looking for any reason to disparage Trump, and only bother to read headlines

    Dear dumbo

    I read beyond headlines but evidently you don’t read except to collect jingos like ‘nothingburger’…gawd…how infantile.

    You dont get ‘bizness do you?….Trumps profit is not in the loan or the development building….its in the LISCENSING…..Trump quit developing when he went bankrupt 5 times and couldn’t get bank loans…he switched to LISCENSING…i.e, known as BRANDING…..he receives a fee and share of profits for use of the Trump name on resorts.

    Therefore the recent approval by China means money to Trump.

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  50. @anon

    Folks this argument and article puts those who comments into a container..

    Each container has a fault and each of you is welcome to comment about the container.

    but don’t look for your answers(comments) o/s/o/e/box full of containers.

    Pick a container, in fact pick to two or three, and comment to your hearts content,
    but folks the problem is the box, the varmint have made the box their home.

    When that happens it necessary to toss the box.

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  51. “It’s worth noting, that the current Russia investigation is based on the dubious claim that Russia hacked DNC computers.”

    Imran Awan is not Russian, he’s a Paki. And he didn’t need to hack the DNC, Debbie Wasserman Schultz let him in and gave him the password. There, huge mystery solved.

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    “Dear dumbo,”

    “LISCENSING” is not a word.

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  53. @anon

    “Anyone who refers to Trump as ‘orange clown’ is obviously partisan to the point of not worth listening to.”

    You may be right about that; now that I think about it, it does seem too generous.

    How about “teflon-don-the-con-man”; or, “the ignorant orange savage in the White House”? Of course there’s always the Biblical description to fall back on: “the beast from the earth” (i.e. the second beast of Rev 13); will that work?

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  54. @renfro

    Is that you Hillary? You LOST bitch!

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  55. Theo Daio says:

    Meanwhile, at the same time we also learn that there is evidence that there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and foreign powers that wanted to see it elected in return for favorable policies. But, the problem that the Deep State has is that the foreign powers were not the cartoon-pinup-all-purpose villan of the Russians. No, it was Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    The point of all of this is that the United States is supposed to be a democracy which means that the government does what the people want it to do. The one thing that we are seeing is that nobody in Washington wants that. The Democrats truly hate the whole concept of democracy. They’ve tried as best they can to ban democracy from their party. And now they’ve instituted both illegal campaign tactics before the election and a coup after the election to try to keep the power in the Democratic Party and the money flowing to them.

    But, it turns out Trump was off cutting deals with Israel and Saudi Arabia that now seem to have the USA headed straight into a disasterous war that was the last thing that voters wanted. The voters keep electing candidates who claim to be against these wars. The problem is that they whole bunch of them are a lot of liars, and the one and only thing they are truly against is democracy and letting the people have a say.

    America desperately needs a Democracy Movement. One that cleans the temples of DC of all of the corrupt liars that currently rule us in both fake parties.

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  56. “He’s decided that the only way he’s going to get his enemies off his back is by flushing them out into the open and subjecting their activities to public scrutiny. It’s a risky strategy … ”

    It’s the only strategy he can pursue. If he doesn’t take the fight out into the open, where his enemies are vulnerable, they will bury him.

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  57. Did Imram Awan leak the documents exposing that the DNC was colluding with the Clintons and rigging the primaries and convention in her favor? After all, that’s where this all began.

    It was a bit before the conventions when those emails leaked. Hillary certainly knew that they could be the death of her lifelong quest to see how much she could steal as President. If the Bernie voters were upset that the whole fake primary and caucus process had been rigged all along and refused to support Hillary, then she was done as a Presidential contender.

    That was when Hillary came up with the idea to try to blame the Russians for the leaks and thus lead the world close to nuclear war for her own personal ambition.

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  59. On the Indonesian deals and Trump running for President, we need more detailed information before we can say the deals were done before Trump was running for President since they were made in 2015.

    Trump was most certainly running for President in 2015. Since the Iowa caucus and the NH primary are both very early in an election year, anyone running for President must absolutely be running in the year before. Thus, we need more specific dates.

    Half of that is easy to look up. Donald Trump officially announced he was running for President on June 16, 2015.

    Well, not so easy, as a story from March of 2015 gives March 18, 2015 as the date that Trump announced an “exploratory committee” for his campaign to be President. That same story says that the NY Post had reported that back in 2013 Trump had already spent $1 million researching such a run for President in 2016.

    As such, it seems at best 50/50 if the deals were signed before Trump officially announced his run for President. And it seems certain that Trump knew he was running no matter which date in 2015 we are talking about.

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  60. TG says:

    You know it’s funny, all those ‘conservatives’ screaming that Edward Snowden is a traitor, that we should trust the US government to spy on us in secret because national security demands it, etc. Because only bad people have something to hide, right?

    And now… we begin to see exactly what it means when the central government can essentially spy on anyone for any reason… not so wonderful after all, is it?

    There is an old saying that a conservative is a liberal who has been mugged, and a liberal is a conservative who’s been arrested.

    I guess a civil libertarian is a national security hawk that’s been spied on.

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  61. gp says:
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    Yeah the orange and hair jokes are so dated. They weren’t funny in the first place.

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  62. @Harold Smith

    I see your point, bread and circus for the people. im more worried about is rael attacking Lebanon, tbh, dragging the entire ME in to the conflict ending up with trump/bibi and erdogan stumbling us into a ww and/or financial breakdown.

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  63. renfro says:
    @Ozymandias

    Yea it is….I just declared it a word…….misspelling and all……typing is not my forte .
    Don’t disturb we genius at work…..I will be making up more words…..people wont know what the words mean so they will think its very intellectual and they are undereducated …..then volia!…..I will be declared an intellectual….. just like all other phony intellectuals. LOL

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  64. renfro says:
    @WorkingClass

    I am one of the few winners here…… I didn’t vote for anyone.
    I hope you have a transferable skill working man or enough money to get you through them mess headed your working man’s way.

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  65. renfro says:
    @Theo Daio

    America desperately needs a Democracy Movement. One that cleans the temples of DC of all of the corrupt liars that currently rule us in both fake parties

    Yes indeed we do. The Dems are using the corruption theme, but of course they are hypocrites also and don’t live up to ethical standards either.
    Still, maybe an election platform based on… ITS THE CORRUPTION STUPID…..will open the eyes of some of our more mentally challenged voters.
    Hate always works–Tump pretended he was going to drain the hateful deep state swamp to save his little people—-so I guess the Dems can pretend they are going to kill the corrupt to save the little people.

    Democrats Roll Out Anti-Corruption Message for 2018 …

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/…/democrats_roll_out_anti-corruption_message_for…

    1 day ago – Instead, Democrats are returning to an anti-corruption message that … A decade later, Trump seized on a similar theme, directing voter ire at …

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  66. renfro says:

    Mueller is the only admirable man in this mess. Trump’s problem is he is for once up against an honest man, someone he cant threaten or bribe or bully.
    Trump, as we say in the south, is white trash…he is way out of his class with Mueller.

    Mueller’s investigation isn’t going to ‘wrap up’ soon — and Trump is still in peril

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-litman-mueller-anniversary-20180516-story.html

    Anyone paying attention over the last year knows Mueller will not yield to political pressure. His investigators haven’t leaked; they have ignored vicious personal attacks; they haven’t veered in the slightest from prosecutorial professionalism.
    So to “wrap it up,” Trump would have to make a move, but will he?
    The president and his lawyers are strategizing about whether he will agree to be interviewed by Mueller, either voluntarily or under subpoena. If he were to refuse, as the current swing of the pendulum suggests, and then try to end the probe, he would only seem more guilty and undermine his support even among Republicans. If his refusal were to lead, as expected, to a court battle, we would expect the Supreme Court to settle the issue. Any move by Trump to preempt it would again only undermine his credibility.
    In addition, the president and his circle are well aware of how fast the midterm election is approaching and what effect an attempt to fire Mueller could have on the outcome. They want to avoid any action that would help the Democrats flip the House. Such a shift would change every calculation, not least because a Democratic majority could move to impeach the president early next year.
    Of course, Trump may calculate that he could get away with firing Mueller now, if he moved quickly and the Republican leadership rallied to his side. But it is equally possible that Congress would respond with legislation to reinstate Mueller. Again, the field of battle would shift to the courts.
    Most importantly, even a successful ouster of Mueller would not derail the investigation at this point. Too much evidence has been gathered, and too many prosecutors, who have surely considered and planned for the contingency, stand ready to carry on. Should Trump try to shutter the entire special counsel’s office, a much graver and politically and legally riskier act than firing Mueller or Rosenstein, other divisions in the Department of Justice, in particular the Southern District of New York, would also be ready to take up the charge.
    The strength of all that evidence, the careful work done thus far, and the indictments already filed are the special counsel’s protection against “witch hunt” tweets and protestations that the investigation is already over with nothing to show for it.
    In the course of the past year, we’ve learned not to underestimate what Mueller knows and what bombshell he may have prepared. It may involve the Russians and the campaign, it may involve obstruction of justice, but there are other relevant threads as well: the true motive behind the Seychelles meeting between Trump associate Erik Prince and the head of a Russian wealth fund, the hacking of Democratic Party emails and its links to Trump political advisor Roger Stone, the recent sale of Russia’s state owned oil company to Qatar.
    Last week we discovered that Mueller was way ahead of us on the huge payments made to Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen for access to the president. We don’t yet know what he’s found out from cooperating witnesses, including Michael Flynn and Rick Gates, that might point directly at the president. And there is still the possibility that Paul Manafort or Cohen could decide to cooperate with the investigation.
    None of these threads signals Trump’s removal from office. A conviction in the Senate, no matter what happens in the midterm, would require a good number of Republicans to turn against the president, which seems remote absent a smoking gun that proves grave criminal conduct. But it is more than plausible that the probe and associated investigations will result in additional indictments of Trump associates — including Jared Kushner and Donald Trump Jr. — and will leave Trump seriously wounded, an untenable candidate in 2020. Once he leaves office, his legal exposure, both civil and criminal, would skyrocket.
    The “wrap it up” crowd is indulging in wishful thinking. The first anniversary of the Mueller investigation is unlikely to be the last.

    Harry Litman teaches constitutional law at UC San Diego. He is a former U.S. attorney and deputy assistant attorney general.

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  67. @Harold Smith

    A brilliant summation of who Trump is and what he’s always been – an opportunist, Manchurian Candidate. The Deep State has done it to us again.

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  68. @renfro

    Renfro, only admirable man. what a card! will not yield. stop it, you’re killin me!

    https://digwithin.net/2018/04/08/muellers-history/

    Renfro, man, dig us up more of that funny shit.

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  69. RobinG says:
    @renfro

    Mueller admirable??? Please.

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  70. bjondo says:

    OK Gina, you are on stage now. This is why you were appointed. Put your skills to use.

    Real terrorist scum will be keelhauled and knocked to you and your crew of patriots.

    Only a bit over 500 miles, Miami to Guantanamo. They should be ready though a bit wet and bruised maybe bitten.

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  71. @anon

    Agree, but it should read “uniparty” rather than Republican Party. It’s quite clear that establishment Republicans have the same agenda as Democrats. Their role is just to pacify the bitter clingers and deplorables until there are enough non whites for their votes not to matter.

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  72. @renfro

    Why bother getting into a pissing contest with an ivory tower skunk like Harry Litman?

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  73. @Ma Laoshi

    It goes a little something like this: Mueller has found some crimes that Trump has committed, as a result of his fishing expedition. They are not related to “Russian collusion”. Financial, bribery, embezzlement, who knows. Happened 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago.

    Mueller knows that if he goes after Trump on those crimes, the public will rightfully be aghast and he will not be successful.

    So the plan is to bait Trump into firing Mueller, and after he is fired it will “come to light” that Mueller has Trump on some crimes, unrelated to his run for office. This will create a crisis for the obstruction of justice.

    Furthermore, Trump is even benefitting politically from this Mueller investigation. “Look at me, I’m the victim of a witch hunt! And by the way, the deplorables better come and and support me.”

    Vulnerability was a great driver for working class whites to come vote for Trump. If he keeps them feeling vulnerable, they are more likely to vote Republican in 2018 and beyond.

    Trump currently has these clowns outplayed, imo. Of course, this is all optimistic speculation.

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  74. @renfro

    I was born in 1944 renfro. Old people are the least likely to survive the coming shit storm. Seriously rich old people excepted. But we also have the least to lose.

    Sorry I mistook you for Hillary.

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  75. @renfro

    btw
    I made a few mistakes. Had a few bad breaks. But seeing the lying, stealing, traitorous, murdering scum that dominated the Clinton, Bush and Obama era LOSE the presidential election made it all worthwhile.

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  76. Mike P says:
    @Theo Daio

    The very purpose of “representative democracy” is to deny people a say over how they are governed. As soon as all the legislative power is concentrated in the hands of a few “representatives”, it becomes easy for big money to control the latter through blackmail and corruption. The regular changing of the guard through “elections” means that there is no chance that any of these dependent creatures can develop enough of a stable independent power base to resist this control; thus, democracy is even more reliably subverted than dictatorships are. That is the real reason we have these so-called democracies.

    The only substantial improvement I can see is direct democracy – let the people vote not on candidates that promise peace, let them vote on war vs. peace as such. As long as we stick with “representative” democracy, we might as well also keep the splendid parties that we have.

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  77. So Trump reads Zerohedge? Lol. Tinfoil Trumpo. I always thought Bannon was behind that website. Early on, 2010 or so if I recall, ZH did a story on Kurhners failed bank loans for a lower east side group of buildings. It was a big nut and had some rancid taint on it, it’s Kushner afterall… It was the first time I witnessed ZH delete comments when things got real truthy. Was that how Bannon and Kushner first crossed paths? Things changed on ZH after that, almost like the NY Observer was involved in editing.

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  78. Corvinus says:
    @renfro

    Wow, great analysis, which completely punctures Whitney’s narrative.

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  79. Ghost says:
    @Carlton Meyer

    “Note that Halper is not a Democratic Party mole, but a Bush family mole.”

    Even more interesting…but not surprising.

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  80. Svigor says:
    @renfro

    Mueller is a consummate swamp rat.

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  81. renfro says:
    @WorkingClass

    But seeing the lying, stealing, traitorous, murdering scum that dominated the Clinton, Bush and Obama era LOSE the presidential election made it all worthwhile.

    Unfortunately rejecting the Hillary thug only got us another thug.
    Its like cutting your nose off to spit your face.
    I don’t have the answer but championing one piece of shit over another piece of shit…..is definitely not the answer to reforming our corrupted government.
    BWTTGASO

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  82. renfro says:
    @WorkingClass

    Sorry I mistook you for Hillary

    You are forgiven.
    I was gonna say I have been called worse…but probably not…..yet anyway

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  83. annamaria says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Curious, was Halper also involved in the Skripal affair? https://www.rt.com/news/427499-skripal-held-uk-against-will/

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  84. renfro says:
    @Svigor

    Mueller is a consummate swamp rat

    I have been around enough not to be surprised at the low class grudging characters who not being anything of worth themselves, deride those who are and identify with characters like Trump who seem to succeed in spite of their pettiness and cravenness.

    I have been told before not to waste my time trying to teach the value of ethics and integrity to those who have none…but I keep trying.

    Who would want you or Trump in their fox hole….? No one really, but your betters would at least try to save your worthless ass whereas your petty brethren would kick you out to save their own ass.

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  85. @renfro

    Hillary was backed by the entirety of Imperial Washington. If Trump is a piece of shit Hillary is a thousand tons of shit.

    Anyway I’m glad to meet you. You are an excellent troll. Until now I had considered Tiny Duck the best in this neighborhood. No more.

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  86. renfro says:
    @WorkingClass

    I think your ‘bad breaks’ you mentioned have made you look for a hero.

    You was…

    ♫ … lookin’ for love in all the wrong places
    Lookin’ for love in too many faces
    Searchin’ their eyes and lookin’ for traces
    I did everything I could to get me through the night
    Don’t know where it started or where it might end

    I turned to a stranger just like a friend….♫♪

    You’re in for a huge disappointment……that is if you don’t have a taste for sleaze corruption, treason,….if you like those things…….then enjoy.

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  87. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Not a word of which refutes the statement, “Mueller is a consummate swamp rat.”

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  88. @Mike P

    I remember right after 9/11 there were polls that said somewhere around 60% of Americans thought the official story was bogus, pretty much everyone I’ve ever talked to at the very least thinks Bush let it happen, most everyone knows the Saudi govt role. I’m curious of the percentage nowadays on knowledge of Israeli role, I would bet its at least 60% now, probably 90% now think Bush let it happen or played a big role in it.

    Its hard to ignore that Trump is appointing people that should be in jail, like Bolton, and then making comments like “Mission accomplished” after all the things he said about Bush, only in America, strange days..

    But yeah, MSM just ignores it , like if they don’t talk about it, no one in America is talking about it. Its very bizarre to say the least. Good news is, few people believe anything MSM says anymore…

    Their days are numbered, no way to avoid reality for too much longer. Thats the only good thing I see in Trumps presidency, hes so loud mouthed and open about it, its impossible to ignore. The curtain is being pulled back.

    Then there was this brief view of reality on CNN way back in 2012, OOPS! Proves that Americans know.
    Jesse Ventura owns Piers Morgan on 9/11 – Sept 2012

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  89. renfro says:
    @anonymous

    Not a word of which refutes the statement, “Mueller is a consummate swamp rat.”

    I don’t need to refute it others already have. There will always be little guttersnipes , hanging around the street corners to snipe at good men that they never were or could be. They’re a dime a dozen, drugstore cowboy gossips, jealousy and understanding their own inferiority drives their tearing down of decent men who are their betters. They feel more comfortable around thugs and crooks like Trump because their petty crudeness and ignorance doesn’t stand out as much when they are around their own kind.

    Mueller vr.Trump

    https://taskandpurpose.com/7-fascinating-facts-robert-muellers-time-vietnam-marine/

    [MORE]

    He was NPQd the first time he tried to join the Marines, and he had to wait a year to try again.
    “In mid-1966,” Graff writes, “Mueller underwent his military physical at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard”:
    This was before the draft lottery began and before Vietnam became a divisive cultural watershed. He recalls sitting in the waiting room as another candidate, a strapping 6-foot, 280-pound lineman for the Philadelphia Eagles, was ruled 4-F—medically unfit for military service. After that it was Mueller’s turn to be rejected: His years of intense athletics, including hockey and lacrosse, had left him with an injured knee. The military declared that it would need to heal before he would be allowed to deploy.”
    So Mueller got married, took a master’s degree in international relations, and reapplied for a billet for OCS at Quantico, shipping out in 1967 — “just before Donald Trump received his own medical deferment for heel spurs,”
    Graff notes.
    At first, everybody was pretty sure the new Lt. was just another tool.
    After infantry training with the Corps and the Army, Mueller headed downrange as just another green butter-bar. He inherited a “decimated” platoon in Hotel Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, full of seasoned survivors of a grueling campaign at Dai Do, near the DMZ. “They might have had a college education, but they sure as hell didn’t have common sense,” Colin Campbell, a mortarman in the company, told Graff. Mueller initially seemed like no exception:
    William Sparks, a private first class in Hotel Company, recalls that Mueller got off the helicopter in the middle of a rainstorm, wearing a raincoat—a telltale sign that he was new to the war. “You figured out pretty fast it didn’t help to wear a raincoat in Vietnam,” Sparks says. “The humidity just condensed under the raincoat—you were just as wet as you were without it.”
    Still, the Hotel Marines — from farms in Oregon, plantations in Mississippi, and factory lines in Ohio — were intrigued by the new Princeton and Ranger School officer, who totally didn’t have to be there. “Word was out real fast — Ivy League guy from an affluent family. That set off alarms. The affluent guys didn’t go to Vietnam then—and they certainly didn’t end up in a rifle platoon,” says VJ Maranto, a corporal in H Company. “There was so much talk about ‘Why’s a guy like that out here with us?’ We weren’t Ivy Leaguers.”
    Their prime fear: That he was out for glory, and willing to risk their lives to do it.

    A month into his tour, Mueller had to lead the platoon through a hellish, costly jungle assault and quickly earned his Marines’ respect.
    When called to support another company in trouble near a North Vietnamese bunker system on Mutter’s Ridge, Mueller’s Marines slogged through dense vegetation and ran down their ammo as enemy gunners swarmed. At one point in the battle, Mueller personally recovered two seriously wounded Marines and helped patch them up for evac. After a full day of fighting, the NVA pulled back. 13 Marines had been lost, but they’d killed an enemy company commander “and had virtually decimated his staff,” the Corps later reported.
    Mueller, among others, was awarded the Bronze Star for bravery; his troops say it was well-earned, along with their respect. “The minute the shit hit the fan, he was there,” one said. “He performed remarkably. After that night, there were a lot of guys who would’ve walked through walls for him.”
    Mueller passed up chances to be a typical tool of a platoon commander.
    The battle for Mutter’s Ridge had jarred plenty of the surviving Marines. One of the dead, Lance Cpl. Robert Cromwell, was a popular platoon mate who had just met his newborn daughter on an R&R trip to Hawaii. A close friend of his, companymate Bill White, “took Cromwell’s death hard; overcome with grief, he stopped shaving. Mueller confronted him, telling him to refocus on the mission ahead—but ultimately provided more comfort than discipline. ‘He could’ve given me punishment hours,’ White says, ‘but he never did.’” It was the sort of thing you’d expect from a Marine J.O. who put mission orientation, and mental wellness, before garrison hygiene.
    Oh yeah, he also got shot in a firefight and kept fighting.
    April 1969 — when U.S. combat deaths in Vietnam first exceeded the total death count in the Korean War — was especially tough for Mueller’s Marines. A series of engagements culminated that month in H Company repelling an NVA ambush that was especially intense:
    At one point, Mueller was engaged in a close firefight. The incoming fire was so intense—the stress of the moment so all-consuming, the adrenaline pumping so hard—that when he was shot, Mueller didn’t immediately notice. Amid the combat, he looked down and realized an AK-47 round had passed clean through his thigh.
    Mueller kept fighting.
    “Although seriously wounded during the fire­fight, he resolutely maintained his position and, ably directing the fire of his platoon, was instrumental in defeating the North Vietnamese Army force,” reads the Navy Commendation that Mueller received for his action that day.
    That was Mueller’s last direct action in combat. After a few weeks recuperating, he finished his Vietnam tour on the 3rd Marine Division’s general staff.

    He was NPQd the first time he tried to join the Marines, and he had to wait a year to try again.
    “In mid-1966,” Graff writes, “Mueller underwent his military physical at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard”:
    This was before the draft lottery began and before Vietnam became a divisive cultural watershed. He recalls sitting in the waiting room as another candidate, a strapping 6-foot, 280-pound lineman for the Philadelphia Eagles, was ruled 4-F—medically unfit for military service. After that it was Mueller’s turn to be rejected: His years of intense athletics, including hockey and lacrosse, had left him with an injured knee. The military declared that it would need to heal before he would be allowed to deploy.”
    So Mueller got married, took a master’s degree in international relations, and reapplied for a billet for OCS at Quantico, shipping out in 1967 — “just before Donald Trump received his own medical deferment for heel spurs,” Graff notes.
    At first, everybody was pretty sure the new Lt. was just another tool.
    After infantry training with the Corps and the Army, Mueller headed downrange as just another green butter-bar. He inherited a “decimated” platoon in Hotel Company, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines, full of seasoned survivors of a grueling campaign at Dai Do, near the DMZ. “They might have had a college education, but they sure as hell didn’t have common sense,” Colin Campbell, a mortarman in the company, told Graff. Mueller initially seemed like no exception:
    William Sparks, a private first class in Hotel Company, recalls that Mueller got off the helicopter in the middle of a rainstorm, wearing a raincoat—a telltale sign that he was new to the war. “You figured out pretty fast it didn’t help to wear a raincoat in Vietnam,” Sparks says. “The humidity just condensed under the raincoat—you were just as wet as you were without it.”
    Still, the Hotel Marines — from farms in Oregon, plantations in Mississippi, and factory lines in Ohio — were intrigued by the new Princeton and Ranger School officer, who totally didn’t have to be there. “Word was out real fast — Ivy League guy from an affluent family. That set off alarms. The affluent guys didn’t go to Vietnam then—and they certainly didn’t end up in a rifle platoon,” says VJ Maranto, a corporal in H Company. “There was so much talk about ‘Why’s a guy like that out here with us?’ We weren’t Ivy Leaguers.”
    Their prime fear: That he was out for glory, and willing to risk their lives to do it.
    Dan Winters/National ArchivesMilitary Rorschach test: Do you see an evil conniver, a gallant hero, or just another butter bar with a National Defense ribbon?
    A month into his tour, Mueller had to lead the platoon through a hellish, costly jungle assault and quickly earned his Marines’ respect.
    When called to support another company in trouble near a North Vietnamese bunker system on Mutter’s Ridge, Mueller’s Marines slogged through dense vegetation and ran down their ammo as enemy gunners swarmed. At one point in the battle, Mueller personally recovered two seriously wounded Marines and helped patch them up for evac. After a full day of fighting, the NVA pulled back. 13 Marines had been lost, but they’d killed an enemy company commander “and had virtually decimated his staff,” the Corps later reported.
    Mueller, among others, was awarded the Bronze Star for bravery; his troops say it was well-earned, along with their respect. “The minute the shit hit the fan, he was there,” one said. “He performed remarkably. After that night, there were a lot of guys who would’ve walked through walls for him.”
    Mueller passed up chances to be a typical tool of a platoon commander.
    The battle for Mutter’s Ridge had jarred plenty of the surviving Marines. One of the dead, Lance Cpl. Robert Cromwell, was a popular platoon mate who had just met his newborn daughter on an R&R trip to Hawaii. A close friend of his, companymate Bill White, “took Cromwell’s death hard; overcome with grief, he stopped shaving. Mueller confronted him, telling him to refocus on the mission ahead—but ultimately provided more comfort than discipline. ‘He could’ve given me punishment hours,’ White says, ‘but he never did.’” It was the sort of thing you’d expect from a Marine J.O. who put mission orientation, and mental wellness, before garrison hygiene.
    Oh yeah, he also got shot in a firefight and kept fighting.
    April 1969 — when U.S. combat deaths in Vietnam first exceeded the total death count in the Korean War — was especially tough for Mueller’s Marines. A series of engagements culminated that month in H Company repelling an NVA ambush that was especially intense:
    At one point, Mueller was engaged in a close firefight. The incoming fire was so intense—the stress of the moment so all-consuming, the adrenaline pumping so hard—that when he was shot, Mueller didn’t immediately notice. Amid the combat, he looked down and realized an AK-47 round had passed clean through his thigh.
    Mueller kept fighting.
    “Although seriously wounded during the fire­fight, he resolutely maintained his position and, ably directing the fire of his platoon, was instrumental in defeating the North Vietnamese Army force,” reads the Navy Commendation that Mueller received for his action that day.
    That was Mueller’s last direct action in combat. After a few weeks recuperating, he finished his Vietnam tour on the 3rd Marine Division’s general staff.
    A lot of the H Company Marines didn’t even know what Mueller’s been up to since Vietnam.

    https://taskandpurpose.com/robert-mueller-marines-combat-vietnam/

    There’s long-winded story about Robert Mueller as a Marine in the June issue of Wired, so as a public service I dug out the marginally interesting stuff for you guys. Yes, I know the incandescent Adam Weinstein wrote about the same article the other day, but I just want here to dig out the specific commentary about Vietnam, plus a Mueller quote.

    The author talked to two people who were in Mueller’s unit, the 2nd Battalion of the 4th Marines, and also dug out some quotes from an interview he did with Mueller years ago:
    Joel Burgos, who served as a corporal under Mueller: “We fought regular, hard-core [North Vietnamese] army…There were so many of them—and they were really good.”
    VJ Maranto, a corporal in H Company: “Word was out real fast—Ivy League guy from an affluent family. That set off alarms. The affluent guys didn’t go to Vietnam then—and they certainly didn’t end up in a rifle platoon There was so much talk about ‘Why’s a guy like that out here with us?’ We weren’t Ivy Leaguers.”
    Maranto, later: “He wanted to know as much as he could as fast as he could about the terrain, what we did, the ambushes, everything … He was all about the mission, the mission, the mission … He was such a professional … He’d been in-country less than a month—most of us had been in-country six, eight months. He had remarkable composure, directing fire. It was sheer terror. They had RPGs, machine gun, mortars … The minute the shit hit the fan, he was there … He performed remarkably. After that night, there were a lot of guys who would’ve walked through walls for him.”
    And then there’s Mueller himself: “Ranger School more than anything teaches you about how you react with no sleep and nothing to eat. You learn who you want on point, and who you don’t want anywhere near point.”

    Robert Mueller is the literal opposite of Donald Trump.”

    - You Are a Magnificent Bastard
    By Brendan Hart • Issue #53

    One Big Thing

    Robert Mueller is a Magnificent Bastard
    If he wasn’t , Margolis warned, Mueller would get chewed up by the partisan and bureaucratic bickering of the capitol. Mueller, thinking back to those days in the jungles of Vietnam, fixed Margolis with an icy stare that would become all too familiar to a generation of prosecutors and FBI agents. He replied, “I don’t bruise easily.”

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  90. @Akran Ahab

    Did Imram Awan leak the documents exposing that the DNC was colluding with the Clintons and rigging the primaries and convention in her favor?

    Mossad/Israel did it. Obviously. Seems to have paid off. No more Iran deal, Jerusalem….Israel is doing a lot of winning eh? Maybe Seth Rich was Mossad?

    What has Pakistan got from Trump so far?

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  92. @WorkingClass

    “Hillary was backed by the entirety of Imperial Washington. ”

    But the “deep state” ultimately decided to go with orange clown. Orange clown was most likely picked not only because of his capacity for breathtaking evil, but because his fraudulent campaign platform fooled the Russians as well as U.S. voters.

    In the fog of confusion which immediately followed the inauguration, orange clown was able to quickly expand the illegal, immoral and unconstitutional U.S. military footprint in Syria, something that, if Clinton had tried it, would’ve been immediately perceived as hostile.

    “If Trump is a piece of shit Hillary is a thousand tons of shit.”

    But you know what they say: a piece of shit stuck to your shoe is far worse than a thousand tons of shit out in the woods somewhere (or something like that).

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  93. tjm says:
    @Anonymous

    TRUMP IS THE DEEP STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Trump is owned by the Zionists, just like Clinton, and the Zionists ARE the deep state.

    9/11 was the culmination of a coup by the Zionists over the US government.

    These deep state nonsense is just Zionist misdirection.

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  94. tjm says:
    @jeff davis

    It is truly shocking how naive so many are about Washington DC.

    There is NO democratic party or Republican party, just two sides of the same coin, and the coin is a silver shekel.

    Trump is backed by Sheldon Adleson and Peter Theil, Clinton by Haim Saban and George Soros. Notice a pattern?

    Trump owes everything he has to the Zionists Jewish bankers, his business is run by them, his administration is filled with them, and he is loyal to them.

    Zionism is the greatest threat to America, they hate US and are planning our destruction.

    The media, Hollywood, Madison Avenue, Wall Street, Washington DC, are all Zionist entities, and they have been working for decades to lie and manipulate the American people to self destruct.

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  95. tjm says:
    @animalogic

    The fact that even here, people buy this theater as real life, when anyone with a brain and a memory knows it’s just distraction.

    Trump is 100% controlled, the very idea that he has free will is ludicrous, just based on the fact of who is backing him, Sheldon Adleson.

    It is truly hard to believe people can see the same act, President after President, fake controversy after fake controversy, yet when given another contrived Hollywood, story, every idiot gets right in line.

    Trump, the media, Hollywood, most on-line media, Facebook, are all owned, they are all Zionist entities, which work in concert to undermine the American people, and Christians in general.

    With Obama is was the Birthers, B. Clinton it was Monica Lewinsky (sounds like a set up to me), Hillary Clinton it was the emails, and with Chump it is the Russians, and like all the rest, in the end NOTHING WILL BE DONE, NO ONE WILL GO TO JAIL, because it is JUST A GAME!

    There is no people on the face of the Earth more idiotic than the American people, Trump being considered a patriot fighting the “deer state” exemplifies this truth.

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  96. tjm says:
    @redmudhooch

    Israel/Zionists:
    Control US media, Wall Street, Hollywood, Washington, Think Tanks, most PACs (PNAC, AIPAC, AEI…), Higher education through endowments, Advertising, USAID…

    They killed JFK, committed 9/11 and used it to get US into Iraq, and the rest of the Middle East.

    They own most of Washington, and CERTAINLY Clinton, Obama, Trump and Congress/Supreme Court.

    While they are the principal drivers for open borders/multiculturalism in America, they practice extreme racism and Apartheid in Israel.

    9/11 was the culmination of a Zionist coup over the US government.

    Trump is the worst traitor to ever be in the White House, he IS 100% Zionist, and they INSTALLED him for a reason, something that I am sure spells doom for America.

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  97. tjm says:
    @WorkingClass

    Your an idiot, you buy into the “at least he is not as bad as Clinton” BS.

    Clinton and Trump are both Zionist traitors, and both deserve the same fate. The very fact that you are grading the levels of shit, means you are either a hasbara paid troll, or intellectually deficient, either way, you just more noise drowning out honest discourse.

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  98. renfro says:
    @redmudhooch

    Yea the simple minded love simple.
    The rest of us ferret out the real details.

    This….https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/21/at-fbi-mueller-oversaw-post-911-torture/

    Laughable….Mueller was with the Justice Dept not the CIA….the Justice Dept was dependent on the CIA for information on the torture claims which the CIA refused to hand over to Justice. Between the military, the Bush WH, the CIA and congress ..the Justice was at the tail end of the power structure.

    This…..http://911truth.org/mueller-history-diversions-cover-ups/

    Also laughable. Mueller became the FBI director exactly one week before 9/11.
    I am sure simpled minded as you are you never heard of Dave Frasca and the “Radical Fundamentalists Unit” he headed within the FBI.
    Crowley, the FBI whistle blower, didnt name him but Sen Leahly did during the hearings into 911.
    Frasca was the guy who prevented Crowley attempts in Phoenix to get a subpoena to examine a their AQ suspects , Moussaoui ‘s computer.
    The Phoenix memorandum was sent to Frasca’s unit, and Frasca decided not to follow up on it.
    None of Crowley’s request ever got thru Frasca’s office to higher FBI offices.

    Here are the people identified as Frasca’s contacts…..http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=david_frasca……too many CIA contacts.

    Which led former FBI and CIA to speculate that Frasca was a CIA’ placement’ within the FBI.

    In their words:
    ”One needs to understand how the CIA and other intelligence agencies place their people throughout the government. Frasca fits that pattern perfectly. For those unfamiliar with the way covert operations function within the United States government, I cannot emphasize enough the importance of two books: The Secret Team by the late Air Force Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty (the Pentagon’s liaison with the CIA during the 1960s), and CIA Diary by former CIA Case Officer Philip Agee. Other excellent case studies in this area are found in The (CIA and the Cult of Intelligence by Victor Marchetti and John D. Marks. Operational patterns described by all of these men are confirmed by hundreds of declassified documents that have surfaced in investigations like those conducted by the Senate’s Church committee in the 1970s.

    To sum up the lessons clearly explained in both books, all one needs to understand is that the CIA routinely places its deep cover agents in every branch of the US government, especially within the FBI, the DEA, and federal law enforcement agencies. They even do it with municipal police departments such as LAPD, NYPD, or the Chicago PD. When the CIA places its agents inside the US military, the process is routinely called “sheep dipping.”
    Why would the CIA do this? Frasca’s behavior is right out of the textbook. At LAPD I saw CIA assets and contractors with access to narcotics investigations making deliberate decisions as to who got arrested and who got away. Gary Webb documented one such instance in Dark Alliance: The CIA, The Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion when he looked at massive CIA-connected cocaine shipments into Los Angeles. CIA assets doing CIA’s bidding are always protected. There is no way to conclusively state that Dave Frasca either worked or works for the CIA, either as a case officer or as an asset. But the role he played before 9/11 clearly served interests other than those of the FBI or the innocent Americans killed or bereaved by the attacks. The power of this secret team is that they are always able to protect their assets, no matter how badly they are exposed. And, as Colleen Rowley noted, Frasca was actually promoted right after 9/11.”

    Now, you know what?…I am tired of talking to morons too stupid to do anything , too stupid to even question anything…too stupid to even think.
    Go sit in front of your tv or goggle around trumpland for more shit you can use to fill that empty space in your head.

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  99. The author lost me with this comment (he is describing the NY Times’ view):

    “there was no spy inside the campaign, there was a trusted informant who was trying to gather information from individual members of the campaign. There’s a big difference. But whether the informant was inside or outside, the fact remains that the FBI launched a counterintelligence operation against the rival party’s presidential campaign …”

    “There’s a big difference”???? Sorry, but I don’t see any difference and the author doesn’t stop to explain what the big difference is, in the NY Times’ judgment or his own.
    btw we are not at war with Russia and it’s commonplace for politicians to talk to politicians from other countries. Such conversations could be pursuant to criminal schemes, but that could be said about any conversations anywhere. Trump campaigned on detente with Russia, evidently an upsetting prospect for certain elements, but surely a legal platform plank, no less than Obama’s intention to withdraw from Iraq or McGovern’s intention to end the war in Vietnam.

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  100. @tjm

    While your comments are extremely “broad brush” I will say this: I was watching an interview with Charles Murray whose books detail certain adverse trends in American society over the last 50 years, and I was struck by the way those trends all have the effect of elevating Jews and removing obstacles to their further advancement. The “meritocracy” and the advent of near-total surveillance of the public, the outlawing of “hate speech”, the willingness of private-sector information channels to censor conservatives, ever loosened banking laws, the stigmatizing of now-Christian Russia — everything helps to create a friendlier country for Jews and to put the gentile majority in a state of passivity. Why are the top campaign donors mostly Jews, given that the country is 97% non-Jewish?
    But I don’t think the anti-Trump animus is all fake. There are Jews who favor Trump and a lot more who hate him, and you may see in coming months some genuine struggle between factions, even if the factions all include Jews. It’s easy to forget that Jews are not all of one opinion.
    That the American people are “idiotic” is plausible. At any rate, they can’t see the pattern of events or else they just don’t care.

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  101. @Mike P

    I agree we need to move in that direction. There are downsides, in that the public is fickle and might approve a war on Monday and peace on Tuesday, but on the whole referenda are a great way to “eliminate the middleman.”
    Even more important, as a necessary means to the institution of direct democracy, is a free press. The internet makes possible a more direct press but the powers that be are hell-bent on shutting it down and so far seem to be winning.
    While some senators have chewed out MarK Zuckerberg, I have zero confidence that this is more than grandstanding. Wall Street and Silicon Valley are sacred cows that no one would seriously threaten, no matter how bad their behavior. I recall Elizabeth Warren dressing down Tim Geithner. She pleased her fans by calling him out on the needless gifting of $10 billion to Goldman Sachs when AIG was funded to repay GS at 100 cents on the dollar, but at the end of the grilling absolutely nothing had changed and no change was forthcoming.

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  102. Allow me to surmise and summarize: this is treason. Treason formerly was most commonly punished by execution. If that were common today, this most probably would not have happened.

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  103. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @renfro

    Adulation of any public figure is almost always misplaced. You seem to have reacted at some emotional level to Mr. Mueller’s military career which, even if swallowed whole, doesn’t mean he hasn’t become a tool. (He, among others, told the lie about Iraq that led to the Empire’s destruction of that country.)

    I spoke against Trump here starting in 2015, and urged people to not vote at all. I think less of him now that he’s betrayed the promises scripted (apparently in good faith) by Stephen Miller. But the Establishment attacks on his candidacy and presidency are apparent to anyone who isn’t entranced by the RepDem, RedBlue, LibCon, puppet show.

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    “But the Establishment attacks on his candidacy and presidency are apparent to anyone who isn’t entranced by the RepDem, RedBlue, LibCon, puppet show.”

    The “attacks” on Mr. Trump’s presidency by the “establishment” are distractive and obfuscatory in nature; they’re insubstantial. They are apparently part of the ongoing psychological warfare campaign against “the people” which seeks to shield Mr. Trump’s evil behind a facade of victimhood.

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  105. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harold Smith

    I concede that you may be correct.

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  106. renfro says:
    @anonymous

    Adulation of any public figure is almost always misplaced. You seem to have reacted at some emotional level to Mr. Mueller’s military career which, even if swallowed whole, doesn’t mean he hasn’t become a tool.

    I don’t do emotion.
    I judge character.
    Mueller has some.
    90% of the rest of Washington doesn’t have any.

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  107. Richard says:

    I’m starting to think this whole Mueller investigation is just Freemason theater. Trump could fire Mueller tomorrow if he wanted but doesn’t, why not? All he does is complain on Twitter for a year. Give me a break. Trump is either playing his role in a good cop-bad cop routine, with Mueller the bad cop, or Mueller was brought in to force Trump to fall in line with an Israeli-Saudi First Foreign Policy. Now that Trump has indeed proven to be an Israeli-Saudi Firster, I predict that Mueller will gradually fade into the background. War with Iran is next on the agenda. Once that gets underway it will dominate the headlines and by September Mueller’s lawless investigation will have wrapped up with no conclusion one way or the other on “Russia collusion.” Mission accomplished for Mueller and the Deep State. Trump is either part of the show or is by now compromised beyond repair.

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  108. tjm says:
    @jack daniels

    I tried to write a good friend who is extremely confused over Trump’s actions, versus the Trump we saw during the selection campaign.

    I say tried because each letter (I still write old fashioned letters to him) because each letter became more like a book.

    The Zionists systems at work in America are so complex, so interconnected, so stealth as to make it nearly impossible to explain their workings.

    Trump is a product, meant to at once trick the Americans into supporting that loathsome treasonous POS, and to destroy the right by it’s support for Trump. What better way to demonize the idea of secure borders, and limited immigration, than make the man who supports those limitations into a raving lunatic? NOTHING is by mistake, Trump being installed is just part of a plan, as elaborate as 9/11 and likely far far worse.

    TO BE VERY CLEAR, it is not all Jews, not at all. I would say though, a far greater number of Muslims suffer by association to Muslim terrorism, than the nearly innumerable self identified “Jews” who absolutely terrorize the west.

    How many Muslims suffer by their association to a few Muslim terrorists?

    When anyone can go onto Wiki and list name after name of Jewish individuals who are part of a movement to destroy the west.

    Who weaponized feminism, Gloria Steinem for starters.
    Was it Hollywood that made movie after movie exploiting slavery, instead of helping Americans understand it, and put it into context, they weaponized it, made it another tool of division, YET ALWAYS HIDING JEWISH INVOLVEMENT IN THE SLAVE TRADE.
    Wall Street, need we go down the list of Jewish men who use Wall Street like a casino, they win, America loses, and the world.
    Israel/Zionists were absolutely behind 9/11, and the assassination of JFK, USS LIBERTY, as well as controlling President after President.
    How about AIPAC, PNAC, AEI, ADL, AJC…and on and on, pushing for open borders, and attacking any America who questions open borders as RACIST, YET THEY WANT US TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR ISRAEL’S WALL AND APARTHEID

    The point is, Zionism is the mortal enemy of America, that is incontrovertible, all the facts point to a war we are not even aware of being waged against US. Israel is a Jewish State, it’s called accountability, if Israel does not want to be associated with the evils of Zionism, they should stand against it. But they don’t, they are self-serving, buying into the idea that they are “special”, and again that in the end will be their undoing.

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  109. @renfro

    The link that you make all of your assertions from is 404 error.

    Re-post a proper link without flying off the handle like a bitch.

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  110. @The Alarmist

    I’m writing Nunes another check at this moment.

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  111. WhiteWolf says:
    @Harold Smith

    You really think that the Russian intelligence agencies would be fooled as easily as American voters?

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  112. @WhiteWolf

    “You really think that the Russian intelligence agencies would be fooled as easily as American voters?”

    Let’s go over it one more time: Trump wasn’t a career politician; Trump already had a lot of money and name recognition, so he presumably wouldn’t need to be beholden to anyone and have to take orders, accordingly; Trump has a history of public comments (e.g. tweets) of an anti-interventionist nature; and Trump has a lot to lose in a nuclear war with Russia. So unless Russian intelligence agencies have some kind of supernatural ability to read minds or to predict the future, why wouldn’t they give Trump the same benefit of the doubt that the voters gave him?

    (BTW the Russian “intelligence agencies” are apparently still struggling to get their heads around the concept that 9/11 was a false-flag attack, so I think you’re giving them way too much credit).

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  113. renfro says:
    @Stonehands

    The link that you make all of your assertions from is 404 error.

    Re-post a proper link without flying off the handle like a bitch

    That was the link redmudhooch posted not mine. I only copied it as reference —-so take it up with him moron. …lol

    92.redmudhooch says:

    May 24, 2018 at 12:56 am GMT
    @renfro

    Mueller buried 9/11. He was in charge of the cover up. Mueller=swamp traitor. Simple.

    http://911truth.org/mueller-history-diversions-cover-ups/

    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/21/at-fbi-mueller-oversaw-post-911-torture/

    http://www.accuracy.org/release/911-whistleblower-rowley-on-muellers-history-of-cover-up/

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  114. @renfro

    That was the link redmudhooch posted not mine. I only copied it as reference —-so take it up with him…

    Obviously you didn’t read your “reference” because the link was broken to begin with!

    You must be part of the fecal Gov. workforce

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  115. RobinG says:
    @Harold Smith

    …. capacity for breathtaking evil …..

    How about the shit smeared on your chin? There’s nothing quite so repulsive as a hypocrite traitor war-criminal.

    Hillary Clinton “We Came, We Saw, He Died”

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  116. @RobinG

    Were you trying to make some kind of a point?

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  117. @RobinG

    “How about the shit smeared on your chin?”

    You’re supposed to be looking at your monitor, not your mirror, as you type your infantile jew drivel, knucklehead.

    “There’s nothing quite so repulsive as a hypocrite traitor war-criminal.”

    Yes there is; in fact the sub-human orange filth in the white house is worse than Clinton. As bad as she is, she’s at least somewhat honest about her treachery.

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  118. tjm says:
    @Harold Smith

    Exactly, not surprisingly both of the filth running for President are hard core Zionists.

    You see like John Kerry and Bush, Obama and John McShame, the Zionists have to insure whomever looses does not point out the discrepancies.

    Trump was GIVEN the election, he was talking about the election was rigged, it was, for him.

    It is no coincidence that Trump and Clinton were products of Jew York City, they need to ensure 100% loyalty of their installed puppets.

    Trump is a product, they made him, and he is likely the most corrupt individual who ever sat in the oval office.

    They put him in for a reason, and they did not put such a POS in there to bomb Syria, or even Iran, I think he is in there to destroy US, or preside over our unwinding. I am ultra cynical, I think the only reason they keep the US economy “growing” is to continue to draw in more Latinos, to break America in two.

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  119. tjm says:
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    Clinton’s greatest crime was she was/is a slave to Zionists.

    What ever happened to all those investigations into what, EMAILS?!

    Never a question form the Zionist Jew media about why we destroying Libya in the first place, what right did we have, and what has become of Libya since…oh no, the jews are onto the next war, Syria, then Iran…

    I find, most people who look back and focus on Clinton, and not what Trump IS doing now, or back to Obama, are Zionist hasbara, just trying to keep the focus away from the current Zionist in chief, and his treasonous actions.

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  120. tjm says:
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    Trump’s money comes with strings attached.

    Anyone with a security clearance knows, Trump would/is a huge risk, not only because f his dealing with organized crime (the Jewish mafia), but because he had been bailed out numerous times because of his bad dealings.

    Furthermore, Trump’s name recognition WAS part of his positioning for office. Trump is a product, like Coke and Ford, a product to sell the American people for the next 8 years.

    The Zionists run Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Wall Street, most universities. At Harvard, of your first required set of courses, the Holocaust in one of them!

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  121. renfro says:
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    back to Obama, are Zionist hasbara, just trying to keep the focus away from the current Zionist in chief, and his treasonous actions.

    Yea they are. But also you have the low information ..”don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind’s made up” types who are still supporting Trump despite the overwhelming evidence of his being a Zio puppet for Israel and the Jews …even though they claim to be against the Zionist takeover of America.

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  122. While Whitney and others have been engrossed in what is nothing more than a gang fight over who they think is to going to push the levers of power in Washington, they have missed the coup that has actually taken place of which the evidence is extraordinary.

    Trump’s walking away from the Iran deal and his opening the US Embassy in Jerusalem, plus the open support for Israel’s latest barbarism by the Trump clique, including Nikki Haley in the UN, as well as both houses of Congress makes it quite clear that the US is now, without question, an Israeli colony. That the Louisiana legislature responded to Israel’s crimes in Gaza by becoming the 25th state to approve a law that prohibits the state from doing business with any company that boycotts Israel is just the lox on the Israeli bagel.

    In the multiple Jewish Community Relations Councils in our country’s major cities, plus the dozens of well heeled Jewish organizations with which they work hand in hand, Israel already had enough “troops” on the ground, plus its unparalleled media control to make sure that Americans would have no idea that their country’s sovereignty has been rendered nonexistent. Meanwhile, Israel is preparing its colonial army, the US army, Marines, Navy Air Force, etc., whose members and the American people believe are acting on behalf of the US, for a war on Iran even as it was able to do against Iraq when it was not yet in total control.

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  123. Skeptikal says:
    @Wizard of Oz

    OK, but isn’t the point that a law enforcement agency was brought in on a partisan basis to act on questionable results of spying?

    [Seems like the Unz Review has forgotten me!]

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  124. @Skeptikal

    I’m not going to reread the article but I think it deplored the idea of the arguably regrettable idea that campaigning politicians might be keen to take advantage of having people with inside knowledge of their opponents’ campaign spill the beans. And if it disclosed crime or just serious lies who’s to quibble?

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  125. Erebus says:

    … there was no spy inside the campaign, there was a trusted informant who was trying to gather information from individual members of the campaign.

    Well, it looks like things are a little more complicated than that.
    If the above document isn’t a fabrication, local players like the President and his Security Advisor requested the UK’s GCHQ to spy, including sigint, on the Trump campaign. That’s more than “gathering information”.

    The document’s signatory, Robert Hannigan, of course resigned abruptly in Jan, 2017, 3 days before Trump’s inauguration.

    EDIT: The linked document isn’t showing in the posted message, but the link itself is live.

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  126. Erebus says:
    @Erebus

    I’ve experienced some trouble getting to the document in that link.
    Again, IF real, it’s a glowing red smoking gun indicating that the UK conspired with the Obama Administration at the highest levels to spy on candidate Trump.
    If anyone has better luck, download and repost it.

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  127. @anon

    All my life I have been a conservative, but I have moved from libertarian to populist/nationalist. However there may be no tenable alternative to what the left/globalists/uniparty are doing. All the social views I support have lost out. As for economics, I no longer am horrified at the prospect of government services, given that most people have to work long hours at crappy jobs. The essentially Anglo-Saxon, Christian society of my youth is no more. Why would I care whether Muslims or Latinos come in? I prefer them, actually, to most Ivy Leaguers I have met, the latte-sippers who now run things. You can’t fight City Hall, and Trotsky is now in charge, an older, fatter, less idealistic commie but still a commie.
    It may be possible to marshal an effective resistance, even at this late date, since the left’s ideology is composed of false ideas that lead to dismal results when applied. Lots of people see the problems. But conservatives are not the sort to march in the streets, and that — justly — will be our downfall. An equally serious problem is that we have no coherent opposing world view. Mainstream conservatism is a joke, while the anti-immigration types refuse to develop a position that extends to other issues and is attractive. Even if they scored some successes they would settle for a country very much like what we have and run by the same elite.
    I would love to be proved wrong, but as I near my seventies I just don’t see that we have the stuff to fight back and maybe we should just get down on our knees and beg the left for mercy. Not that they are a very merciful bunch.

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  128. According to “whistleblower” Russ Tice, the NSA spied on Obama.

    https://reason.com/blog/2013/06/21/did-the-nsa-spy-on-obama

    Being that the “deep state” has lots to lose if the “wrong” person were to be elected to a high political office, perhaps it’s just standard practice to spy on everyone until complete loyalty can be adequately demonstrated?

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  129. Erebus says:
    @Erebus

    False alarm. Seems the letter linked at #126 is a hoax. The signature is identical to that on Hannigan’s resignation letter.

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  130. MB says: • Website
    @Renoman

    One, did they use the power of the state/FBI or party people?

    Two, as far as the overall picture goes, the NSA spies on everybody.
    Funny how nobody complains about that and it is that which undergirds this whole shebang.
    Of course you need a FISA warrant to look at any of the intel, but does the NSA need a FISA warrant? I don’t think so. It is the real puppet master.

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