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The neocon-driven propaganda campaign to prevent president-elect Donald Trump from taking office took an unexpected turn on Thursday when CBS posted an article claiming that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally authorized the alleged hacking of the DNC. According to the report:

“American intelligence officials say they are convinced that Russian hacking of our presidential election was approved by President Vladimir Putin. Sources confirm to CBS News they believe Putin was aware of attacks that began in July of last year.

An official investigation is still going on. But this is the first time the hacking that plagued the Democratic National Committee until Election Day has been linked to Putin, reports CBS News correspondent Jeff Pegues.

The hacks were so widespread and sustained over such a long period of time that U.S. Intelligence sources say it could not have been carried out without the knowledge of senior levels of the Kremlin. CBS News has learned that investigators believe the initial cyberattack involved thousands of malicious emails aimed at the U.S. government, military and political organizations.” (“Vladimir Putin likely gave go-ahead for U.S. cyberattack, intelligence officials say“, CBS News)

As is true with earlier reports on the same topic, CBS fails to provide the names of any of its “U.S. intelligence sources”, any corroborating evidence to support its allegations, or any proof that its speculative stitching together of isolated facts produce an accurate account of what actually took place. No where in the entire hysterical narrative, do the authors mention the fact that neither the DNC nor the Podesta emails were “hacked” by a hostile foreign power, but “leaked” from within the DNC itself or by agents operating at the NSA.

The most probable explanation for the alleged cyber intrusion is that the emails were given to WikiLeaks by a disgruntled employee operating in the Hillary campaign who was so sickened by the lies and corruption that he decided to blow the whistle. Is that so hard to believe?

Needless to say, this logical storyline doesn’t jibe with the CIA-MSM-Podesta version of events which requires a charge of foreign espionage to overturn the election and implement its treasonous plan for regime change in Washington.

According to the Daily Mail, Craig Murray, who is the former UK ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange,

“flew to Washington, D.C. for emails….He claims he had a clandestine hand-off … near American University with one of the email sources. Murray said the leakers’ motivation was ‘disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the ’tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders’…

Murray says: ‘The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks’. ‘Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that,’ Murray insists.” ….

Murray said he was speaking out due to claims from intelligence officials that Wikileaks was given the documents by Russian hackers as part of an effort to help Donald Trump win the U.S. presidential election.

‘I don’t understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn’t true,’ he said. ‘Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.” (EXCLUSIVE: Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails“, Daily Mail)

As of Thursday, none of the major media have covered or investigated Murray’s claims which should be expected since it essentially proves that the MSM fairytale-version of events is pure bunkum. By the way, there’s an excellent article at Consortium News by 6 Intelligence agency veterans titled “US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims” that challenges the absurd ‘Russia hacking claim’ and attributes the cyber incident to leaking. Here’s a short blurb from the piece that helps to clarify a few important points:

“All signs point to leaking, not hacking. If hacking were involved, the National Security Agency would know it – and know both sender and recipient.

In short, since leaking requires physically removing data – on a thumb drive, for example …

NSA is able to identify both the sender and recipient when hacking is involved….The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network…

The various ways in which usually anonymous spokespeople for U.S. intelligence agencies are equivocating – saying things like “our best guess” or “our opinion” or “our estimate” etc. – shows that the emails alleged to have been “hacked” cannot be traced across the network. Given NSA’s extensive trace capability, we conclude that DNC and HRC servers alleged to have been hacked were, in fact, not hacked.

The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.” (“US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims“, Consortium News)

Bottom line: Leaked not hacked. Thus, the MSM “Putin did it” version = Bullshit.

Here’s more on Murray’s eyewitness account of his contact with the whistleblower. This is from an exchange that took place on Tuesday in an interview between Murray and author David Swanson.

David Swanson– When you say you’ve met the leaker; was that of the DNC emails or the Podesta emails?

Craig Murray– I cannot give too much detail on that…but I have met one of the people involved. …The person is American and not connected to Russia at all….(Julien Assange has confirmed that the leaker was not Russian)

David Swanson– Your claim is not that the Russians would never hack into a computer, right? Your claim is that you know who did this and it isn’t Russia?

ORDER IT NOW

Craig Murray– Right, I was involved in handling top secret material myself for over 20 years, and all the spy services spy on each other all the time. So the Russians could have done this, but they didn’t. I happen to know that they didn’t. In both the Podesta and the DNC emails came from sources that are not Russian, but were American inside sources. And that could be inside the organization itself or it could be American agencies that are monitoring people’s communications….Inside the DNC or inside the NSA. (“Talk Nation Radio: Craig Murray: Russia Didn’t Do It“)

So, the ‘hacking story’ has nothing to do with hacking and nothing to do with Russia. It’s just another attempt by establishment elites to distort the facts in order to subvert the democratic process and overturn the election results. Isn’t that what this is really all about, regime change in the USA?

You bet it is.

This charade has Hillary’s bloody fingerprints all over it.

MIKE WHITNEY lives in Washington state. He is a contributor to Hopeless: Barack Obama and the Politics of Illusion (AK Press). Hopeless is also available in a Kindle edition. He can be reached at fergiewhitney@msn.com.

(Republished from Counterpunch by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Oh well. I think it’s getting more and more obvious at this point that the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for it. And judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. With the reward now standing at what? must be around a hundred grand? if that was a garden variety robbery, someone would’ve come forward already.

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    I suppose, Mao,

    When you pull back the curtain on this entire election cycle, it truly reveals itself as the most stinging rebuke , ever witnessed, of the entire "establishment class" and their catastrophic policy failures both at home and abroad.

    The "overwhelming" support for the two candidates (Bernie and the Donald) least under the thumb of the "ruling elite"and their big phony media,..sent a crystal clear message just how much contempt the electorate has for the status quo and the powers that be.

    I wonder by how much of a margin (or landslide) Bernie actually won the D.N.C .nomination ?

    I wonder, too, just how cooked the books were ( by the back room Oligarchs) to hand Hillary the nomination.... when she probably didn't come close to winning it.

    There is no small irony to the fact that Bernie's central message, that the Oligarchs have completely stolen the wealth and helm of the entire nation from the rest of us, than in their handing him his hat, by stealing his nomination, too.

    I wonder what Seth Rich would tell us, were he alive today to discuss it.

    Nothing exposes more the growing trepidation of the ruling elite they have lost control of the narrative...... that they might face some real accountability for their innumerable transgressions against our country and the world, ,..... then the new "Red Scare".

    It is fascinating to watch how fast its scaffolding is going up.

    Just the fact they are driving so hard with it, and slapping the "Putin did it" meme on everything that walks , crawls and slithers... shows us all, how afraid they must be, their grand facade of "credibility" is crumbling.

    , @Eileen Kuch
    Mao Cheng Ji, I believe you just found a gem here. Of course, the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for doing so. Judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rich actually did leak the DNC batch and the CIA bosses were actually involved in his murder. After all, nothing of value was taken after the murder, so it wasn't a garden variety robbery, either.
    Add to that the rising price of the reward for the capture, prosecution and conviction of the perpetrators, and we can rule out robbery, since nobody's yet come forward. Seth Rich did work for the DNC, and he certainly may have leaked information on that organization that it didn't want leaked.
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  2. No one claims the hacks altered the election results or changed e-mails. They simply made real e-mails public.

    As for Obama’s outrage that a foreign government influenced a US election, perhaps he should sound the alarm about Israel and Arab nations that spend millions of dollars to influence American elections.

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  3. CanSpeccy says: • Website

    On his blog, Craig Murray explicitly repudiates the implication of the Daily Mail‘s report that he received the hacked emails in “a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources.”

    Rather, he states:

    I didn’t receive the emails full stop. The purpose of the meeting was mundane. Its only interest is that as a result I can tell you it wasn’t the Russians.

    i.e., it wasn’t the Russians who handed over the emails to Wikileaks.

    This is not nearly such clear-cut evidence as the Daily Mail would have one believe. What we have, simply, is Craig Murray’s judgement, presumably based on contacts he had in Washington, DC, that the emails were made available to Wikileaks by the action of a DNC insider.

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  4. Dahlia says:

    In addition to William Binney (one of the group of intel vets alluded to here), add Scott Ritter of “Iraqi WMD intel is wrong” fame.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cia-russia-dnc-hacking_us_584f535ee4b0bd9c3dfe722e

    First and foremost, there is no direct evidence linking Russia to the hacks; assumptions were made on the basis of an earlier German security service assessment of a prior hack of its parliament that linked Russian intelligence services to tradecraft later used against the DNC. But the Germans admit that they have no hard proof of Russian involvement, and that their conclusions were simple conjecture. This is not the strongest analytical basis upon which to build an assessment possessing the gravitas of the CIA’s report on the 2016 presidential election. Moreover, the notion that a professional state-run intelligence service like Russia’s would use compromised hacking tools for high-profile hacks such as the DNC is laughable. In the intelligence world, deniability is everything, something any seasoned intelligence analyst would have factored into their assessment.

    Can’t recommend enough how important it is to read what Ritter has to say. He discusses at length the CIA and Russia/Soviet Union, and how it came to be they were surprised at the collapse of the Soviet Union, “one of the greatest intelligence failures of the past century”.

    Says, post-SOVA, it’s gotten even worse; the problem isn’t intelligence gathering, but analysis. He ends with this:

    President-elect Trump would do well to remember as he enters his term in office, pushing a policy of reconciliation with Russia that the CIA neither supports, nor is equipped to effectively advise him on.

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  5. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Whitney is wrong.

    Russians did it.

    And here the video proof of the hacker behind the plot.

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  6. Che Guava says:

    Very good article, Mr. Whitney.

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  7. unit472 says:

    If the Russian’s got into the DNC’s emails what of it? They’ve put bugs in the State Department and put so many eavesdropping devices in our then new Moscow Embassy it could never be used!

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/15/world/the-bugged-embassy-case-what-went-wrong.html?pagewanted=all

    This is like leaving a steak on the kitchen counter and being surprised your dog finally jumped up and ate it! The problem for the Democrats was the content of the emails! If Pizzagate Podesta was running a clean campaign his emails would have been nothing more than an inside look at the Clinton campaign. How much money to spend in this media market, what their tracking polls were showing, how their fundraising was going. Interesting but not scandalous information.

    Instead we learned Mook was using paid thugs to disrupt Trump rallies, the DNC chairman was trying to destroy the campaign of Bernie Sanders, that the news media was putting itself at the beck and call of the Clinton campaign and giving The Rodhamster debate questions in advance!

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    • Replies: @Seneca44
    I don't want to sound like Pauline Kael circa 1972, but have you actually met anyone who changed their vote as a result of the hacked e-mail content? These revelations reaffirmed the view that Hillary was an elitist crook and that the MSM was in the tank for her. I don't think that surprised anyone, regardless of their political affiliation.
    , @Wally
    Well said.
    The dog & steak comparison is too funny.

    It's the content of the emails that they want the masses to ignore

    This is also what they refuse to talk about:

    Undercover video shows Democrat operatives admitting they incited violence at Trump rallies
    https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/undercover-video-shows-democrat-operatives-admitting-they-incited-violence-at-trump-rallies

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  8. alexander says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji
    Oh well. I think it's getting more and more obvious at this point that the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for it. And judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. With the reward now standing at what? must be around a hundred grand? if that was a garden variety robbery, someone would've come forward already.

    I suppose, Mao,

    When you pull back the curtain on this entire election cycle, it truly reveals itself as the most stinging rebuke , ever witnessed, of the entire “establishment class” and their catastrophic policy failures both at home and abroad.

    The “overwhelming” support for the two candidates (Bernie and the Donald) least under the thumb of the “ruling elite”and their big phony media,..sent a crystal clear message just how much contempt the electorate has for the status quo and the powers that be.

    I wonder by how much of a margin (or landslide) Bernie actually won the D.N.C .nomination ?

    I wonder, too, just how cooked the books were ( by the back room Oligarchs) to hand Hillary the nomination…. when she probably didn’t come close to winning it.

    There is no small irony to the fact that Bernie’s central message, that the Oligarchs have completely stolen the wealth and helm of the entire nation from the rest of us, than in their handing him his hat, by stealing his nomination, too.

    I wonder what Seth Rich would tell us, were he alive today to discuss it.

    Nothing exposes more the growing trepidation of the ruling elite they have lost control of the narrative…… that they might face some real accountability for their innumerable transgressions against our country and the world, ,….. then the new “Red Scare”.

    It is fascinating to watch how fast its scaffolding is going up.

    Just the fact they are driving so hard with it, and slapping the “Putin did it” meme on everything that walks , crawls and slithers… shows us all, how afraid they must be, their grand facade of “credibility” is crumbling.

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  9. Note to unz and MW:

    The use of the word “mainstream” when referring to corporate owned media is misleading. What’s “mainstream” about the garbage?

    Check this out and tell me who/ what this means and why…

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=mainstream+media&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cmainstream%20media%3B%2Cc0

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  10. Ram2009 says:

    The appointment of a rabid Zionist Judaic as Ambassador to Israel belies the supposition that Trump is NOT a NeoCon puppet. The American society is totally beholden to the Zionist racket.

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    What difference does it make who ambassador to Israel is?

    And in any case, isn't it better that he's an openly rabid zionist, rather than a usual forked-tongue 'democracy-human-rights' liberal, doing exactly the same? Less bullshit.

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  11. @Ram2009
    The appointment of a rabid Zionist Judaic as Ambassador to Israel belies the supposition that Trump is NOT a NeoCon puppet. The American society is totally beholden to the Zionist racket.

    What difference does it make who ambassador to Israel is?

    And in any case, isn’t it better that he’s an openly rabid zionist, rather than a usual forked-tongue ‘democracy-human-rights’ liberal, doing exactly the same? Less bullshit.

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    As if he was going to appoint James Zogby?Every ambassador to the scumbags is a scumbag.Probably a sop to his ZNN torturers.
    Notice pizzagate has disappeared in the Russophobic feeding frenzy?
    Very interesting.
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  12. macilrae says:

    It’s a tough old world and, even after the USSR collapsed, US intelligence agencies naturally continued spying on Russia and doing all they could to influence internal politics and engender instability – not only Russia but China, Israel and all the European countries. That’s what they’re paid to do: it’s a big part of their job.

    Likewise, naturally, those countries have returned the favor – it is only to be expected, anticipated and countered. Espionage is a dirty game for Christ’s sake!

    This latest bleat of outrage is not coming from the true intelligence professionals: they know all this perfectly well. Like the ‘intelligence’ from the Iraq in 2003, this is all originating from the political tiers of the organizations: the rank-and-file troops are being intimidated to keep quiet and are doubtless disgusted that their agencies are being exposed to such ridicule.

    If “Putin” really ordered Clinton and the DNC to be hacked and the material exposed who could possibly blame him? We have seen with what incompetence they handled sensitive material – this is expected and richly deserved.

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  13. Seneca44 says:
    @unit472
    If the Russian's got into the DNC's emails what of it? They've put bugs in the State Department and put so many eavesdropping devices in our then new Moscow Embassy it could never be used!

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/15/world/the-bugged-embassy-case-what-went-wrong.html?pagewanted=all

    This is like leaving a steak on the kitchen counter and being surprised your dog finally jumped up and ate it! The problem for the Democrats was the content of the emails! If Pizzagate Podesta was running a clean campaign his emails would have been nothing more than an inside look at the Clinton campaign. How much money to spend in this media market, what their tracking polls were showing, how their fundraising was going. Interesting but not scandalous information.

    Instead we learned Mook was using paid thugs to disrupt Trump rallies, the DNC chairman was trying to destroy the campaign of Bernie Sanders, that the news media was putting itself at the beck and call of the Clinton campaign and giving The Rodhamster debate questions in advance!

    I don’t want to sound like Pauline Kael circa 1972, but have you actually met anyone who changed their vote as a result of the hacked e-mail content? These revelations reaffirmed the view that Hillary was an elitist crook and that the MSM was in the tank for her. I don’t think that surprised anyone, regardless of their political affiliation.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    The answer is yes, for me.

    I think it was for the wrong reasons and a classic example of a low-information voter, but a woman who never used to vote frantically told me about the Hillary associations with Satanic rituals and actually voted for perhaps the first time in her life.

    Now, I despise Hillary but I'm not sure if her participation in creepiness should be the first reason you don't want her President. I might be concerned, for example, with her obsession with starting wars with no real finishing point.
    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    Depends what you mean by "changed." Not voting is a relevant change from voting for H.
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  14. Does anyone else see the breathtaking irony, hypocrisy and naked lawlessness here?

    From Venezuelan presidents Chavez and Maduro, to Gaddafi in Libya, Yanukovych in Ukraine, Assad in Syria, Putin in Russia, and now Trump in the U.S itself., Kenyan-born-Indonesian-citizen-illegal-alien-presidential-usurper-and all-around-moral-degenerate, Barry Soetoro, has spent his whole illegitimate “presidency” challenging the legitimacy of everyone else?

    Barry hides all his personal information, uploads an obviously fraudulent birth certificate for the whole world to see and appreciate, and then goes on a global rampage, apparently doing everything he can to start a nuclear WW3, all based on the pretext of the alleged illegitimacy of everyone else.

    And Barry’s illegitimacy isn’t limited to domestic issues. Why should a lawless, third-world banana republic like Jew-controlled “America” have a seat on the UN Security Council? Why should a country that cannot from a legitimate government have any say in the affairs of any other country?

    Russian President Vladimir Putin should demand that the U.S. give up its seat on the UN security council – unless Barry produces a legitimate birth certificate.

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  15. Wally says:
    @unit472
    If the Russian's got into the DNC's emails what of it? They've put bugs in the State Department and put so many eavesdropping devices in our then new Moscow Embassy it could never be used!

    http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/15/world/the-bugged-embassy-case-what-went-wrong.html?pagewanted=all

    This is like leaving a steak on the kitchen counter and being surprised your dog finally jumped up and ate it! The problem for the Democrats was the content of the emails! If Pizzagate Podesta was running a clean campaign his emails would have been nothing more than an inside look at the Clinton campaign. How much money to spend in this media market, what their tracking polls were showing, how their fundraising was going. Interesting but not scandalous information.

    Instead we learned Mook was using paid thugs to disrupt Trump rallies, the DNC chairman was trying to destroy the campaign of Bernie Sanders, that the news media was putting itself at the beck and call of the Clinton campaign and giving The Rodhamster debate questions in advance!

    Well said.
    The dog & steak comparison is too funny.

    It’s the content of the emails that they want the masses to ignore

    This is also what they refuse to talk about:

    Undercover video shows Democrat operatives admitting they incited violence at Trump rallies

    https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/undercover-video-shows-democrat-operatives-admitting-they-incited-violence-at-trump-rallies

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    • Replies: @Skeptikal
    During the campaign, in the summer, I saw that the left media thought it was just great that, for example, access roads to Trump's rallies were being blocked by protesters etc. In other words his right to conduct his campaign and political events was being questioned.
    WTF?
    If demonstrators etc. had blocked highways to Hillary's events the left would have blown a gasket. But they supported this when done to Trump. I didn't know how I would vote at that poing, but seeing that really gave me pause (I was registered Dem).
    Then the emails turned out that the Dem Party was actually paying saboteurs. Disgusting.
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  16. @Seneca44
    I don't want to sound like Pauline Kael circa 1972, but have you actually met anyone who changed their vote as a result of the hacked e-mail content? These revelations reaffirmed the view that Hillary was an elitist crook and that the MSM was in the tank for her. I don't think that surprised anyone, regardless of their political affiliation.

    The answer is yes, for me.

    I think it was for the wrong reasons and a classic example of a low-information voter, but a woman who never used to vote frantically told me about the Hillary associations with Satanic rituals and actually voted for perhaps the first time in her life.

    Now, I despise Hillary but I’m not sure if her participation in creepiness should be the first reason you don’t want her President. I might be concerned, for example, with her obsession with starting wars with no real finishing point.

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  17. bunga says:

    This is crazy!!!

    Dont know what to make of it

    1-Former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden announced this morning that he had “clear evidence” that the 2016 US election was rigged by Russian hackers in favor of Donald Trump.

    “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump” Snowden told an internet conference in Berlin, speaking via a video link from Russia, where he has been living as a fugitive. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/snowden-russia-successfully-rigged-us-elections-in-favor-of-trump/

    2-On the other hand, I just read a statement from Edward Snowden, delivered to an internet audience in Berlin: “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump.” This is of course a separate and more serious issue than the email leaks. So the plot thickens http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/16/the-cold-war-continued-post-election-russophobia/

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    • Replies: @Mao Cheng Ji
    Fake: http://www.snopes.com/edward-snowden-said-russia-successfully-rigged-u-s-elections-in-favor-of-trump/
    , @KA
    Counter punch has removed the reference and the link to the worldnewsdaily.com . It is a hoax and I guess it is a sad sick first ditch effort effort to join CNN FOX NYT and FOX on their terms More will be coming
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  18. DaveE says:

    “This charade has Hillary’s bloody fingerprints all over it.”

    Ah, c’mon. Hillary’s just in it for the chicks. She couldn’t organize a political campaign, let alone a massive psy-op involving every media zionist tool, liar, and nearly every power-player in DC, LA, NY, Tel Aviv, etc. etc.

    This is the latest concerted effort by the World’s Oldest Ethnic Mafia. Hillary is just their Useful Goy Idiot. Fortunately, even a Goy idiot can see through this one and knows EXACTLY who’s behind it.

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  19. When the consolidation of media was legalized, the rationale was that the internet provided alternatives. Fast forward to now and the Lying Stream Media wants the alternatives, that portion of the internet they don’t control, silenced.

    In theory, competing news sources will act as checks on any one of them lying. In practice, our public forum is controlled by hostiles. Not only do they function as an echo chamber, but they have no requirement to correct the misinformation they use as a military weapon against the American people. See Iraq War and installation of propaganda for, as example.

    They named themselves the MSM, which of course they are not. We need to rename them, just as the New World Order sounds like a soap product instead of global tyranny. Naming is power.

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    They named themselves the MSM, which of course they are not. We need to rename them, just as the New World Order sounds like a soap product instead of global tyranny. Naming is power.
     
    Thank you and amen!
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  20. dahoit says:
    @Mao Cheng Ji
    What difference does it make who ambassador to Israel is?

    And in any case, isn't it better that he's an openly rabid zionist, rather than a usual forked-tongue 'democracy-human-rights' liberal, doing exactly the same? Less bullshit.

    As if he was going to appoint James Zogby?Every ambassador to the scumbags is a scumbag.Probably a sop to his ZNN torturers.
    Notice pizzagate has disappeared in the Russophobic feeding frenzy?
    Very interesting.

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  21. annamaria says:

    The DC would do what the Lobby dictates: http://thesaker.is/making-sense-of-trump/
    We live in the interesting (i.e., dangerous) time

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  22. Alden says:

    The reason the CIA failed to realize the Soviet Union was ready to dissolve is because like every other government agency, the CIA is overloaded with affirmative action female, minority and immigrant employees. The only White men who work there were hired because of hard left and or gay credentials.

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  23. J1234 says:

    An interview from Aug. of Julian Assange by NPR’s Judy Woodruff. Very enlightening, and something that every hysteria prone Democrat should listen to:

    And they should also listen to what Obama said back in October:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-rigged-election-2016-10

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  24. Svigor says:

    Instead we learned Mook was using paid thugs to disrupt Trump rallies, the DNC chairman was trying to destroy the campaign of Bernie Sanders, that the news media was putting itself at the beck and call of the Clinton campaign and giving The Rodhamster debate questions in advance!

    But the important thing to remember is that THE RUSSIANS RELEASED THE TRUTH TO INFLUENCE THE ELECTION! DOWN WITH THE TRUTH RUSSIA!

    I notice Big Media isn’t very interested in giving the American public the idea that Putin’s motivation was (would have been) destroying Clinton, not empowering Trump; Putin’s bad history with Clinton (Putin blames her for stirring up trouble over a Russian election, inter alia) is far more relevant than any history he has with Trump (which is pretty much nothing).

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  25. Svigor says:

    Flashback:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-donald-trump-rigged-election-2016-10

    ‘Stop whining’: Obama sternly rebukes Donald Trump’s ‘irresponsible’ claims that election is ‘rigged’

    Obama emphasized that there was no evidence of widespread election and voter fraud. He said “no serious person” could rig an election in the US if they tried.

    I love how Big Media thinks the emails (however they came to light) are the big story of the election. And not, say, the six months that they were completely in the tank for one candidate, and moved Heaven and Earth to influence the election in her favor.

    The president also laid out the case that if Trump won the election, he would expect Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to concede. He said he would dutifully carry out the transition of power between his administration and that of Trump if the real-estate mogul were elected.

    Funny how things worked out *cough Hillary bankrolling Stein’s anti-democratic efforts, having no unkind words for the faithless electors campaign, etc. cough*, isn’t it?

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  26. Leave it to the Russians, they will get the truth out.

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  27. @Seneca44
    I don't want to sound like Pauline Kael circa 1972, but have you actually met anyone who changed their vote as a result of the hacked e-mail content? These revelations reaffirmed the view that Hillary was an elitist crook and that the MSM was in the tank for her. I don't think that surprised anyone, regardless of their political affiliation.

    Depends what you mean by “changed.” Not voting is a relevant change from voting for H.

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  28. @YT Wurlitzer
    When the consolidation of media was legalized, the rationale was that the internet provided alternatives. Fast forward to now and the Lying Stream Media wants the alternatives, that portion of the internet they don't control, silenced.

    In theory, competing news sources will act as checks on any one of them lying. In practice, our public forum is controlled by hostiles. Not only do they function as an echo chamber, but they have no requirement to correct the misinformation they use as a military weapon against the American people. See Iraq War and installation of propaganda for, as example.

    They named themselves the MSM, which of course they are not. We need to rename them, just as the New World Order sounds like a soap product instead of global tyranny. Naming is power.

    They named themselves the MSM, which of course they are not. We need to rename them, just as the New World Order sounds like a soap product instead of global tyranny. Naming is power.

    Thank you and amen!

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    Yes. What is the phrase you prefer, corporate media?
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  29. RobinG says:
    @jacques sheete

    They named themselves the MSM, which of course they are not. We need to rename them, just as the New World Order sounds like a soap product instead of global tyranny. Naming is power.
     
    Thank you and amen!

    Yes. What is the phrase you prefer, corporate media?

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    Mass media was used for years. I've often advocated corporate media, but sewer media would do as well.My preference is cloaca media, but that probably wouldn't fly...

    I'm really disappointed in MW's use of the word. He's a sharp and a great guy. You'd think he'd know better.

    Anything but "mainstream" or anything else that legitimizes the corporate trash.

    , @MarkinPNW
    One phrase I've recently encountered; LMS, or Lying Media Scum.
    , @SteveRogers42
    Lugenpresse.
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  30. @bunga
    This is crazy!!!

    Dont know what to make of it

    1-Former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden announced this morning that he had “clear evidence” that the 2016 US election was rigged by Russian hackers in favor of Donald Trump.

    “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump” Snowden told an internet conference in Berlin, speaking via a video link from Russia, where he has been living as a fugitive. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/snowden-russia-successfully-rigged-us-elections-in-favor-of-trump/


    2-On the other hand, I just read a statement from Edward Snowden, delivered to an internet audience in Berlin: “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump.” This is of course a separate and more serious issue than the email leaks. So the plot thickens http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/16/the-cold-war-continued-post-election-russophobia/
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  31. @RobinG
    Yes. What is the phrase you prefer, corporate media?

    Mass media was used for years. I’ve often advocated corporate media, but sewer media would do as well.My preference is cloaca media, but that probably wouldn’t fly…

    I’m really disappointed in MW’s use of the word. He’s a sharp and a great guy. You’d think he’d know better.

    Anything but “mainstream” or anything else that legitimizes the corporate trash.

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    How about Crooked Media? or Crooked Corporate Media? It ties in with Crooked Hillary which resonated so very well.

    Fake Media? Lying Media? They would do too, in fact anything succinct that doesn't pull any punches but crooked works best for me although it lacks alliteration to make it stick like glue.
    , @Miro23

    "The chief function of propaganda is to convince the masses, whose slowness of understanding needs to be given time so they may absorb information; and only constant repetition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea on their mind." Adolf Hitler- Mein Kampf 1925
     
    But he was only copying the Bolsheviks whom he regarded as excellent propagandists. It was actually Lenin who introduced the idea of Political Correctness;


    “The fundamental idea is clear: to bring forward a politically correct statute, which sets out the essence and justification of terror.” Letter to Kursii 17th May 1922
     
    Both of them enforced a PCM (Politically Correct Media)?
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  32. “another attempt by establishment elites to distort the facts”

    AKA fake news.

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  33. MarkinPNW says:
    @RobinG
    Yes. What is the phrase you prefer, corporate media?

    One phrase I’ve recently encountered; LMS, or Lying Media Scum.

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  34. @jacques sheete
    Mass media was used for years. I've often advocated corporate media, but sewer media would do as well.My preference is cloaca media, but that probably wouldn't fly...

    I'm really disappointed in MW's use of the word. He's a sharp and a great guy. You'd think he'd know better.

    Anything but "mainstream" or anything else that legitimizes the corporate trash.

    How about Crooked Media? or Crooked Corporate Media? It ties in with Crooked Hillary which resonated so very well.

    Fake Media? Lying Media? They would do too, in fact anything succinct that doesn’t pull any punches but crooked works best for me although it lacks alliteration to make it stick like glue.

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    If you want alliteration how about Mendacious Mass Media?
    , @RobinG
    Hi Nosey,

    I think Svigor really hit it with Big Media.

    'Big' epitomizes the PR mantra, "Keep it Simple, Stupid." My suggestion, 'corporate media' is embodied in Big. Big already has numerous negative connotations: Big Government, Big Money, Big Business. In a recent anti-establishment op-ed, Bruce Dixon wrote, "Both parties deliver the mandate of their constituencies to their common funders, Big Ag, Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Real Estate, the military contractors and Wall Street."

    At first I thought, why change when everyone knows MSM, but that's not true. A friend (who's generally more 'hip' than I am) recently asked me to define the acronym MSM. Big needs no defining, and it's already being used by a few writers.

    Some of the suggestions here, while colorful, are too much of a mouthful. Then we're back to an acronym that needs defining. We're not looking for an inside joke or password. We want a universally understood derogatory appellation.

    If we want to humiliate the presstitutes, I submit that 'Big Media' is the right tool. Thoughts?

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  35. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Speaking of messing with other nations.

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  36. @RobinG
    Yes. What is the phrase you prefer, corporate media?

    Lugenpresse.

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  37. Skeptikal says:
    @Wally
    Well said.
    The dog & steak comparison is too funny.

    It's the content of the emails that they want the masses to ignore

    This is also what they refuse to talk about:

    Undercover video shows Democrat operatives admitting they incited violence at Trump rallies
    https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/undercover-video-shows-democrat-operatives-admitting-they-incited-violence-at-trump-rallies

    During the campaign, in the summer, I saw that the left media thought it was just great that, for example, access roads to Trump’s rallies were being blocked by protesters etc. In other words his right to conduct his campaign and political events was being questioned.
    WTF?
    If demonstrators etc. had blocked highways to Hillary’s events the left would have blown a gasket. But they supported this when done to Trump. I didn’t know how I would vote at that poing, but seeing that really gave me pause (I was registered Dem).
    Then the emails turned out that the Dem Party was actually paying saboteurs. Disgusting.

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  38. Again for the dummies who like Obama and Rodhamster have reading comprehension skills…

    Craig Murray– Right, I was involved in handling top secret material myself for over 20 years, and all the spy services spy on each other all the time. So the Russians could have done this, but they didn’t. I happen to know that they didn’t. In both the Podesta and the DNC emails came from sources that are not Russian, but were American inside sources. And that could be inside the organization itself or it could be American agencies that are monitoring people’s communications….Inside the DNC or inside the NSA. (“Talk Nation Radio: Craig Murray: Russia Didn’t Do It“)

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  39. KA says:
    @bunga
    This is crazy!!!

    Dont know what to make of it

    1-Former US National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden announced this morning that he had “clear evidence” that the 2016 US election was rigged by Russian hackers in favor of Donald Trump.

    “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump” Snowden told an internet conference in Berlin, speaking via a video link from Russia, where he has been living as a fugitive. http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/snowden-russia-successfully-rigged-us-elections-in-favor-of-trump/


    2-On the other hand, I just read a statement from Edward Snowden, delivered to an internet audience in Berlin: “I have received confirmation through Guccifer 2.0 that malware was used in the electronic voting machines that lead to the victory of Donald Trump.” This is of course a separate and more serious issue than the email leaks. So the plot thickens http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/12/16/the-cold-war-continued-post-election-russophobia/

    Counter punch has removed the reference and the link to the worldnewsdaily.com . It is a hoax and I guess it is a sad sick first ditch effort effort to join CNN FOX NYT and FOX on their terms More will be coming

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  40. @Mao Cheng Ji
    Oh well. I think it's getting more and more obvious at this point that the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for it. And judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. With the reward now standing at what? must be around a hundred grand? if that was a garden variety robbery, someone would've come forward already.

    Mao Cheng Ji, I believe you just found a gem here. Of course, the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for doing so. Judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Rich actually did leak the DNC batch and the CIA bosses were actually involved in his murder. After all, nothing of value was taken after the murder, so it wasn’t a garden variety robbery, either.
    Add to that the rising price of the reward for the capture, prosecution and conviction of the perpetrators, and we can rule out robbery, since nobody’s yet come forward. Seth Rich did work for the DNC, and he certainly may have leaked information on that organization that it didn’t want leaked.

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    Why aren't these dots being connected?
    I.e., Rich, his murder, and the Emails?
    At least as a hypothesis?
    If it were true, that Rich was the source of the emails, then it might explain Murray's reluctance to say the name of the person who handed them over. It might bring him too close to the murderers and thus endanger his own life. Is that a possible explanation?
    , @Mao Cheng Ji

    Seth Rich did work for the DNC
     
    Not only did he work for the DNC, he did IT work for them. Databases. Most likely with direct access to their servers, firewalls, and admin accounts.
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  41. Miro23 says:
    @jacques sheete
    Mass media was used for years. I've often advocated corporate media, but sewer media would do as well.My preference is cloaca media, but that probably wouldn't fly...

    I'm really disappointed in MW's use of the word. He's a sharp and a great guy. You'd think he'd know better.

    Anything but "mainstream" or anything else that legitimizes the corporate trash.

    “The chief function of propaganda is to convince the masses, whose slowness of understanding needs to be given time so they may absorb information; and only constant repetition will finally succeed in imprinting an idea on their mind.” Adolf Hitler- Mein Kampf 1925

    But he was only copying the Bolsheviks whom he regarded as excellent propagandists. It was actually Lenin who introduced the idea of Political Correctness;

    “The fundamental idea is clear: to bring forward a politically correct statute, which sets out the essence and justification of terror.” Letter to Kursii 17th May 1922

    Both of them enforced a PCM (Politically Correct Media)?

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  42. Svigor says:

    “Big Media” works best for me. It’s pithy, and evokes the same connotations that “Big Oil” does. I used “leftist corporate media” for years, but it’s lost its charm for me.

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  43. Skeptikal says:
    @Eileen Kuch
    Mao Cheng Ji, I believe you just found a gem here. Of course, the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for doing so. Judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rich actually did leak the DNC batch and the CIA bosses were actually involved in his murder. After all, nothing of value was taken after the murder, so it wasn't a garden variety robbery, either.
    Add to that the rising price of the reward for the capture, prosecution and conviction of the perpetrators, and we can rule out robbery, since nobody's yet come forward. Seth Rich did work for the DNC, and he certainly may have leaked information on that organization that it didn't want leaked.

    Why aren’t these dots being connected?
    I.e., Rich, his murder, and the Emails?
    At least as a hypothesis?
    If it were true, that Rich was the source of the emails, then it might explain Murray’s reluctance to say the name of the person who handed them over. It might bring him too close to the murderers and thus endanger his own life. Is that a possible explanation?

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  44. @Eileen Kuch
    Mao Cheng Ji, I believe you just found a gem here. Of course, the DNC batch was probably leaked by Seth Rich, who was then murdered for doing so. Judging by the behavior of the CIA bosses, they might be involved. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Rich actually did leak the DNC batch and the CIA bosses were actually involved in his murder. After all, nothing of value was taken after the murder, so it wasn't a garden variety robbery, either.
    Add to that the rising price of the reward for the capture, prosecution and conviction of the perpetrators, and we can rule out robbery, since nobody's yet come forward. Seth Rich did work for the DNC, and he certainly may have leaked information on that organization that it didn't want leaked.

    Seth Rich did work for the DNC

    Not only did he work for the DNC, he did IT work for them. Databases. Most likely with direct access to their servers, firewalls, and admin accounts.

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  45. annamaria says:

    Is not it wonderful that MSM has documented the fixing of Russian elections by certain Americans that were connected to the Clintons: “Rescuing Boris,” by Michael Kramer, TIME magazine (1996)

    http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/printout/0,8816,984833,00.html

    “The Americans helped teach us Western political-advertising techniques… ” But Yeltsin resisted–and that caused the team to reach out to Bill Clinton’s all-purpose political aide, Dick Morris. Communicating in code–Clinton was called the Governor of California, Yeltsin the Governor of Texas–the Americans sought Morris’ help….
    As Clinton’s current political guru, Morris became the middleman on those few occasions when the Americans sought the Administration’s help in Yeltsin’s re-election drive…”
    Fantastic.

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  46. Karl says:

    Gentlemen don’t read each others’ mail

    My friends in Unit 8200 are heavily involved in monitoring the US’s…. celebrity news.

    Listen, and believe.

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  47. DES says:

    “Sources confirm to CBS News they believe Putin was aware of attacks that began in July of last year.”

    “The hacks were so widespread and sustained over such a long period of time that U.S. Intelligence sources say it [sic] could not have been carried out without the knowledge of senior levels of the Kremlin.”

    This represents a bizarre standard of proof that sidesteps the basic problem that we have seen no evidence that the Russian government approved the hacks. How does the fact that the hacks were so “widespread and sustained” that Putin must have been “aware of” them lead to the conclusion that the Russian government approved them? Even assuming that Putin knew of the hacks, did his knowledge thereof impose on him an affirmative duty to stop them?

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  48. Jon Orton says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    How about Crooked Media? or Crooked Corporate Media? It ties in with Crooked Hillary which resonated so very well.

    Fake Media? Lying Media? They would do too, in fact anything succinct that doesn't pull any punches but crooked works best for me although it lacks alliteration to make it stick like glue.

    If you want alliteration how about Mendacious Mass Media?

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  49. RobinG says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    How about Crooked Media? or Crooked Corporate Media? It ties in with Crooked Hillary which resonated so very well.

    Fake Media? Lying Media? They would do too, in fact anything succinct that doesn't pull any punches but crooked works best for me although it lacks alliteration to make it stick like glue.

    Hi Nosey,

    I think Svigor really hit it with Big Media.

    ‘Big’ epitomizes the PR mantra, “Keep it Simple, Stupid.” My suggestion, ‘corporate media’ is embodied in Big. Big already has numerous negative connotations: Big Government, Big Money, Big Business. In a recent anti-establishment op-ed, Bruce Dixon wrote, “Both parties deliver the mandate of their constituencies to their common funders, Big Ag, Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Real Estate, the military contractors and Wall Street.”

    At first I thought, why change when everyone knows MSM, but that’s not true. A friend (who’s generally more ‘hip’ than I am) recently asked me to define the acronym MSM. Big needs no defining, and it’s already being used by a few writers.

    Some of the suggestions here, while colorful, are too much of a mouthful. Then we’re back to an acronym that needs defining. We’re not looking for an inside joke or password. We want a universally understood derogatory appellation.

    If we want to humiliate the presstitutes, I submit that ‘Big Media’ is the right tool. Thoughts?

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    I think Big Media is good
    As you say, no explanation needed.
    Rides on the concepts of Big Tobacco, Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc.
    I think Big Tobacco was the first Big X.
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  50. Skeptikal says:
    @RobinG
    Hi Nosey,

    I think Svigor really hit it with Big Media.

    'Big' epitomizes the PR mantra, "Keep it Simple, Stupid." My suggestion, 'corporate media' is embodied in Big. Big already has numerous negative connotations: Big Government, Big Money, Big Business. In a recent anti-establishment op-ed, Bruce Dixon wrote, "Both parties deliver the mandate of their constituencies to their common funders, Big Ag, Big Oil, Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big Real Estate, the military contractors and Wall Street."

    At first I thought, why change when everyone knows MSM, but that's not true. A friend (who's generally more 'hip' than I am) recently asked me to define the acronym MSM. Big needs no defining, and it's already being used by a few writers.

    Some of the suggestions here, while colorful, are too much of a mouthful. Then we're back to an acronym that needs defining. We're not looking for an inside joke or password. We want a universally understood derogatory appellation.

    If we want to humiliate the presstitutes, I submit that 'Big Media' is the right tool. Thoughts?

    I think Big Media is good
    As you say, no explanation needed.
    Rides on the concepts of Big Tobacco, Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc.
    I think Big Tobacco was the first Big X.

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    Excellent points all. Big Media it is. BM is also health industry jargon for taking a crap so that's just a bonus.
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  51. @Skeptikal
    I think Big Media is good
    As you say, no explanation needed.
    Rides on the concepts of Big Tobacco, Big Oil, Big Pharma, etc.
    I think Big Tobacco was the first Big X.

    Excellent points all. Big Media it is. BM is also health industry jargon for taking a crap so that’s just a bonus.

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    Terrific. Maybe at first, something like

    ..........Big Media (aka MSM)
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  52. RobinG says:
    @NoseytheDuke
    Excellent points all. Big Media it is. BM is also health industry jargon for taking a crap so that's just a bonus.

    Terrific. Maybe at first, something like

    ……….Big Media (aka MSM)

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    Is everyone on the same page as to what "Big" in this context actually means?
    To me, "Big" X means an industry or sector that is not just big in size but also is tied in to govt in such a powerful way that it can sway major govt. policy to its own advantage. I.e., unhealthy for both democracy and the economy.
    , @Skeptikal
    Is everyone on the same page as to what "Big" in this context atually means?
    To me, "Big" X means an industry or sector that is not just big in size but also is tied in to govt in such a powerful way that it can sway major govt. policy to its own advantage. And such power is generally exercised behind the scenes, in secret or in nonpublic meetings, etc. This lack of transparency is inherently undemocratic, unfair, and also bad for the economy. Not every big industry is a Big. I think.
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  53. Skeptikal says:
    @RobinG
    Terrific. Maybe at first, something like

    ..........Big Media (aka MSM)

    Is everyone on the same page as to what “Big” in this context actually means?
    To me, “Big” X means an industry or sector that is not just big in size but also is tied in to govt in such a powerful way that it can sway major govt. policy to its own advantage. I.e., unhealthy for both democracy and the economy.

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  54. Skeptikal says:
    @RobinG
    Terrific. Maybe at first, something like

    ..........Big Media (aka MSM)

    Is everyone on the same page as to what “Big” in this context atually means?
    To me, “Big” X means an industry or sector that is not just big in size but also is tied in to govt in such a powerful way that it can sway major govt. policy to its own advantage. And such power is generally exercised behind the scenes, in secret or in nonpublic meetings, etc. This lack of transparency is inherently undemocratic, unfair, and also bad for the economy. Not every big industry is a Big. I think.

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